Tuesday, August 9, 2005

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1:20🔗 Voiceover That's right, no, it's Dr. Drew. The phone number here at Loveline is 1-800-LOVE-191. Corolla's off doing his big Comedy Central show, which premiered yesterday, and I saw it again tonight. And he'll be back again next week. But tonight, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, friend of the show, filling the shoes of Adam Corolla, Nicole Sullivan.

1:38🔗 What up, kids?

1:39🔗 Drew Welcome to the show.

1:40🔗 What up?

1:41🔗 Drew And Nicole just reminded me that she's been doing this Loveline for 12 years.

1:46🔗 Adam Yeah, like, honestly, I'd say, like, I'd say a solid 10 years.

1:51🔗 Drew I like an idiot whoop. It is a big whoop. I like an idiot whoop. Oh, remember, I remember you guys first came on the MTV show, Loveline. No, no, I did it five times before that.

1:58🔗 Adam Yeah, I did it a bunch before the MTV show. And then it was like, now they're going television. And we were with you. We were like, they're going to TV. We're with them.

2:06🔗 Drew We had fun. You guys came on a bunch, too.

2:08🔗 Adam Yeah, we did.

2:08🔗 Drew It was good.

2:09🔗 Adam Well, you know, we're good looking.

2:11🔗 Drew Well, you are quite an attractive bunch. And then, and Mad TV. Now, you heard about your new show Hot Properties debuts October 7th. What time, ABC?

2:18🔗 Adam ABC nine thirties, nine thirty on Friday nights. Friday after everyone's favorite hope and faith.

2:25🔗 Drew Tell me. You know, my wife does like that show.

2:27🔗 Adam Is she really?

2:27🔗 Drew She does. Yeah.

2:28🔗 Adam Oh, that's good news.

2:29🔗 Drew And what? Tell me about the Hot Properties.

2:32🔗 Adam Hot Properties is basically four women selling real estate and they're all hot. Believe me, I'm on the lowest rank of that hotness. It gets much cuter than me. And it's like, it's just like Sex in the City light.

2:44🔗 Drew Oh, really?

2:45🔗 Adam Yeah. Sex in the City meets designing women.

2:49🔗 Drew Yeah, yeah. Got it.

2:50🔗 Adam And I actually really like designing women. I remember watching it when I was growing up. So it's like women sort of chattering about life. But it's not anti-male. It's not like men turn away.

3:01🔗 Drew Something like that though, if it's written in clever writing, it will be great.

3:05🔗 Adam I swear to God, Dr. Drew, you know, I've done a cabillion pilots. Like I make my own my house because of and for people that for people that don't know, like the TV, Anderson, you're freaking Nicole out. What did he say?

3:21🔗 Drew He told the engineer, turn your mic up.

3:23🔗 Adam Oh, I thought he said, like, turn Nicole's turn.

3:26🔗 Drew She's slowly turning into the mic.

3:30🔗 Adam I'll turn for you. You know, pilots are things that you do like pretend shows and then they decide to pick them up or not.

3:36🔗 Drew People out in the real world may not know about that. There's millions and millions of these pilots.

3:40🔗 Adam It's like fake shows, these pilots you do. I've done a million of them. Of all the pilots I've done, this is the pilot that had, was the funniest of anything I've ever done. And then it got picked up. And so now it's actually on TV, which is the good news. But I swear to goodness, it's chock full of jokes. It's not Sex and the City in that it doesn't make people, like, it's not shock value, which I kind of got annoyed about Sex and the City. We don't talk about the size of their penises.

4:08🔗 Drew Not only was all that shock and stuff, but Sex and the City was unrealistic. There was some sick broads. Someone's character were ill, emotionally ill.

4:15🔗 Adam Absolutely.

4:15🔗 Drew And it was portrayed as, oh, just liberated, and what are you gonna do?

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4:25🔗 Drew Actually, I love that show. It's the best show on television, so, yeah.

4:30🔗 Adam A huge fan, huge fan.

4:31🔗 Drew Well, anyway, well-written anyway.

4:32🔗 Adam I really was a fan. I liked it a lot.

4:33🔗 Drew Yeah. Again, it was well-written, and I just didn't like the fact that it wasn't more realistic in terms of the real, who those people actually were in real life.

4:41🔗 Adam I hope you guys will listen to me. I'm the craziest of the four, so, you know, it goes for me, but it's fun. Just tune in. It's fun.

4:47🔗 Drew And we were talking a little bit off there that MADtv has had a renaissance on Comedy Central. My kids have picked up on it, and they TiVo it and watch MADtv like the goddamn Zabruder tapes. I mean, they like study. And my son and I watched one tonight where you guys are on Gilligan's Island speaking in Spanish.

5:03🔗 Adam Oh, boy.

5:04🔗 Drew Yeah. Funniest thing I've ever heard.

5:06🔗 Adam Just like different sketches in Spanish. Honestly, MADtv is one of those shows. I was there when it was born. I'm a million years old now. And it's my baby, and I love it. And it's, guys, it's anyone who wants to watch it, it's still just as edgy as it was then.

5:23🔗 Drew And I remember back in the day when you started it, it was always getting canceled. It was the show that got canceled 4,000 times.

5:30🔗 Adam Never not, no one wants it.

5:31🔗 Drew Last season, music, guys, Matt Davis had it up. It's over. 19 seasons later, you guys are like, well, I guess we could go on for a while. And it really has had some serious talent on there.

5:42🔗 Adam It's been great, but I said when it first got picked up, I said 20 years. I honestly said it, like I was a baby then, I was 24, so who knows what I knew.

5:51🔗 Drew Alex Borstein we have frequently, and so we're friends with the Family Guy folks.

5:56🔗 Adam Oh, they're the best. You know, I'm a voice for hire for Family Guy.

6:00🔗 Drew You would do some voice there?

6:01🔗 Adam Sure.

6:02🔗 Drew What have you done? I played myself twice. Well, no, I played-

6:05🔗 Adam I've heard you, I know.

6:06🔗 Drew I played Chris' dermatologist and I broadcast with Stewie.

6:10🔗 Adam I never heard the dermatologist thing.

6:12🔗 Drew Yeah, when he has the zit that takes over his head.

6:14🔗 Adam Oh my God, that was you, yes.

6:16🔗 Drew Good times. Well, shall we help some people out? What do you think?

6:19🔗 Adam I'd love to.

6:20🔗 Drew Or talk more about your upcoming show.

6:21🔗 Adam No, no, just me. Just me for two hours.

6:23🔗 Drew Okay, here we go. Let's glance at these calls yet.

6:28🔗 Adam Wait, as co-host, do I get to pick?

6:30🔗 Drew Hey, absolutely.

6:31🔗 Adam I've never seen a co-host. This is like huge for me.

6:33🔗 Drew You're a co-host, you can take the show wherever you want. And the great thing, you can even be like Corolla and just talk incessantly the whole show if you want and not take any calls.

6:40🔗 Adam Oh, that's a female, I assume, right? That one, yeah.

6:42🔗 Drew Gwen, yeah.

6:43🔗 Adam Okay, Gwen. Jason. I want to, gosh, my instinct. I want to go there.

6:51🔗 Just do it!

6:52🔗 Drew Gwen, who is 21. Gwen?

6:54🔗 Caller Hi.

6:54🔗 Drew This is going to be a great call. Hi, Gwen.

6:56🔗 Adam How are you?

6:56🔗 Caller Hi.

6:57🔗 Adam I'm good.

6:57🔗 Hi, Nicole.

6:58🔗 Adam How are you?

6:59🔗 Nicole Sullivan I'm good. You're so funny. I can't believe I called in on the night that you're there.

7:03🔗 Adam Aw, thanks so much, Gwen.

7:04🔗 Drew So funny, so talented.

7:06🔗 Nicole Sullivan I know, she is. Anyway, so I have a question for you guys. I'm married. I've been married about a year and a half and I can't get over a crush that I have on my husband's brother. And it's really terrible because I know that it's completely unhealthy.

7:26🔗 Drew Let's roll it back a little bit. How did you, did you meet your husband first or the brother-in-law?

7:30🔗 Nicole Sullivan I met my husband first. I met him in high school.

7:33🔗 Drew And the brother-in-law, when did that attraction come along?

7:37🔗 Nicole Sullivan Probably about a year into going out with my husband, who was my then boyfriend.

7:43🔗 Drew And then that was just no way after that, right? Right. You never consummated in any way? No. No. Okay. And why did you get married? With harboring this, carrying this torch for the brother-in-law? You got married at 20. Come on.

7:58🔗 Nicole Sullivan I know. I know. See, it's not something that is like, I try to convince myself out of it, of like not liking him or whatever.

8:06🔗 Drew Well, let's get back to your marriage.

8:07🔗 Adam So, you're 21 now? Yeah. Oh, so you get married at, to the math.

8:12🔗 Drew Maybe 19.

8:13🔗 Nicole Sullivan Yeah, 19.

8:14🔗 Oh, why?

8:15🔗 Adam I know.

8:16🔗 Nicole Sullivan I always have you talking in my head, Dr. Drew, about how young marriages always fail.

8:22🔗 Drew They don't always fail, but if you want to look at the numbers that are the worst, it's the marriages that-

8:25🔗 Adam Isn't Dr. Drew a genius?

8:27🔗 Nicole Sullivan I swear to God.

8:28🔗 Drew Nicole will be visiting me all week.

8:29🔗 Adam I swear to God he is. Okay, go, go, go. Sorry, Gwen, go ahead.

8:32🔗 Drew In Nashville?

8:33🔗 Nicole Sullivan I'm from California.

8:35🔗 I can't even listen to the show out here.

8:37🔗 Drew Oh, for God sakes.

8:38🔗 Nicole Sullivan Yeah.

8:39🔗 Drew All right. Well, so I'm glad my words shaped her behavior so perfectly.

8:44🔗 Adam So perfectly that she did exactly what you said not to do.

8:48🔗 Nicole Sullivan I know.

8:50🔗 Drew Well, Gwen, here's the deal. Are you going to see this marriage through? You want to stay married?

8:54🔗 Nicole Sullivan I can't imagine it. I can't imagine it working and then I can't imagine it not working.

8:59🔗 Drew Well, you have to decide are you going to hang with this marriage or not?

9:04🔗 Adam Actually, you're in a perfect place, Gwen. I mean, not perfect. Ideally, you'd know forever. But the fact that it's like you're going, I see both sides, it's up to you right now. Like you have to make a mental decision and it's honestly going to be the biggest choice of your life. Right.

9:18🔗 Drew And if you go, you're going to see this through, which is fine. You've got to not even be around the brother-in-law. You can't even have the potential of going down that path. You know there's a spark there. You know there's a chemistry. Do not let it ignite. You have a responsibility to stay away from that guy. Don't let it happen. Don't get near it and work on your marriage. Don't have a kid to solve the problem.

9:41🔗 Nicole Sullivan I know I'm not having kids for like ten years.

9:45🔗 Adam Can I give a girl sort of response also?

9:47🔗 Drew Let me finish one thing. You could get divorced, but then you're going to give up the brother-in-law too. Don't forget. You're not going to be with this brother-in-law no matter what.

9:55🔗 Nicole Sullivan I know. I know that.

9:56🔗 Adam Nicole, what? Honestly, no matter what's easy, you're not being with him. Here's the best way to get over someone that like... He seems perfect in theory, which is the whole thing about like imaginary crushes. Next time he's around, look at his zits, look at the hair on his back. Honestly, make yourself nauseous over him because the bottom line is...

10:17🔗 Drew Cole thinks about her boyfriend, her fiance on the John. That's how she deals with it.

10:22🔗 Adam Just like imagine... He's honestly as annoying as your husband can be to you, which all husbands can be. He can be just as annoying. You have to go to that place with him. You can't imagine him to be perfect. Imagine the zits, imagine the hairlessness, imagine the hair in the wrong place, and just sort of honestly force yourself to get it out of your brain because it's just you stopping yourself.

10:43🔗 Drew If she were like 30, I'd say something in the order of the fact that she's using this idealized vision of the brother-in-law as a way of sort of distancing herself from an intimacy.

10:50🔗 Adam Yeah, yeah.

10:51🔗 Drew But she's 21, a 20 year old, who knows? She could be really distracted by the guy.

10:55🔗 Adam He may be hotter than the guy.

10:56🔗 Drew That's what I'm saying.

10:56🔗 Adam But she's got to realize that he's just as stupid as his brother, if she's mad at her brother.

11:00🔗 Drew Absolutely, I'm with you. Ashley is 17.

11:02🔗 Hello?

11:03🔗 Drew Hey, what's up Ashley?

11:04🔗 I wanted to know if it was possible that I could be genetic that I can't enjoy myself having sex.

11:10🔗 Drew Can't enjoy yourself?

11:12🔗 Mm-hmm, because my mom can't and I can't and I already have five times.

11:17🔗 Adam Wait, five times what?

11:18🔗 Drew Tried to have sex five times, didn't enjoy it. What do you mean by not enjoy it? You mean not have an orgasm?

11:22🔗 Like nothing whatsoever.

11:25🔗 Drew Do you have any, you want to sort of give me some history to make sure there's not something predisposing to all this? Were you ever sexually abused? Any physical abuse?

11:32🔗 I was sexually molested, well I was molested by my mom's boyfriend, well ex-boyfriend.

11:37🔗 Drew And I can predict that that happened to your mom too, because that's why she brings the sexual abuser into the house, and that's why she's shut down.

11:44🔗 And I got almost raped by an current ex-boyfriend.

11:49🔗 Drew Fantastic. So we don't really have to go down the genetic path, do we? There's a lot of environmental stuff here, it's shut you down. And in fact some research has shown if the sexual abuse was painful, you can actually have what's called a somatoform dissociation, where you disconnect from your body.

12:03🔗 Adam Somatoform?

12:03🔗 Drew You're so many, I mean your body, you just don't feel anything below the way you really don't.

12:07🔗 Adam You numb out.

12:08🔗 Drew You're actually numb, just the way people psychologically numb out, you can actually somatically numb out too. And so Ashley, yeah, there's a lot here. Now, unfortunately, when people have sexual abuse, what happens is they can go from being shut down like this to becoming hypersexual and then shutting down again, they go kind of back and forth. And this is something that should be treated really, this is not about an orgasmic function, this is about trauma.

12:28🔗 Adam But that's true, I mean, I listen to the show all the time and you say it should be treated, but it's very scary for kids.

12:33🔗 Drew Very tough to treat.

12:34🔗 Adam I mean, when you're someone like a kid, like it should be treated, like I wouldn't know what to do if I were a teenager.

12:41🔗 Drew I know.

12:41🔗 Adam How should I treat it?

12:43🔗 Drew Nicole, you're absolutely right. And it's glib to just say, I'm glib just like Matt Lauer. It's glib to just...

12:48🔗 Adam Oh, we can talk about that.

12:50🔗 Drew Yeah.

12:50🔗 Adam Go ahead, go ahead.

12:51🔗 Drew Another story. To say, yeah, I'm just going to get it treated. Because the reality is these are complex things to treat. There's not even uniformity of philosophy about how to approach them. But fundamentally, at very least, you need to get in some mental health services. You can start with your school.

13:06🔗 Adam You should go to the school nurse.

13:07🔗 Drew Well, it's usually the simple school counselor. If you have a doctor, you tell your doctor and get a referral.

13:12🔗 Adam But most of the times, these kids don't go to doctors by themselves. They go with their parents.

13:16🔗 Drew Well, that's true. And here's, by the way, here's something to look for. If you're with a doctor, you're 15 or older. That doctor should take the parent out, it should meet you with your parent, set some ground rules about you being the doctor, you're going to take care of the adolescent, have a meeting together, and then say, now meet with each of you alone, and then separate the child and the parent, meet with each alone, and then meet with the gold one back together again.

13:38🔗 Adam So maybe if you're a kid, you could say to the nurse, whisper to the nurse, by the way, can you ask the doctor, I don't want to ask, but can you ask the doctor to meet with us separately?

13:44🔗 Drew Yes, but an adolescent, anybody that deals with that lesson should know, meet together, meet apart, and back together again.

13:50🔗 Adam I know, should know is a big word.

13:51🔗 Drew I know, I know. These days when nobody has time to do anything.

13:54🔗 Adam But when you're in trouble, like Dr. Drew was saying, and you need help, just talk to someone who you know won't talk to your parents, and just try to get any angle to talk to a therapist.

14:04🔗 Drew Does your mom know you've been sexually abused?

14:06🔗 Yeah, she does, but she doesn't really care. And I already tried...

14:11🔗 Drew You know, when moms have been sexually abused themselves, it's not even that they don't care. They shut down to all this.

14:18🔗 Adam They're sort of like, second up?

14:20🔗 Drew They're so overwhelmed by having put their daughter in the same thing, it's like, I can't not just shut off, just can't deal. But Ashley, do you have an idea who you might want to talk to?

14:29🔗 I already tried therapy and all that.

14:32🔗 Drew No, no, no, therapy is not something you try. Therapy is something you do for like 5 to 10 years.

14:35🔗 Adam What do you mean you tried therapy?

14:36🔗 Where? I went to new counselors for school, and I also saw this program that said that if you maybe, it was the man's fault that you couldn't get turned on.

14:46🔗 Drew No, no, no, Ashley, this is not about not being turned on. Forget about the turn on thing.

14:50🔗 Adam Forgetting about sex, honestly.

14:52🔗 Drew It's about the trauma. Listen, we can have a separate discussion about orgasmic function and arousal and stuff, and that's interesting.

14:58🔗 Adam And that's everyone's problem, by the way. Every girl ever has that problem.

15:03🔗 Drew You know, they finally did, some studies came out recently that showed it's a genetically based issue for the most part.

15:07🔗 Adam Oh, really? For orgasms?

15:08🔗 Drew And whether you're multiple or singular, but no trouble.

15:11🔗 Adam Really?

15:12🔗 For sure.

15:14🔗 Adam But you forget about that. That's not the issue. The issue is you need to deal with your anger at your mom for not dealing with your trauma, which is that you were abused.

15:23🔗 Drew Yeah, and again, you're not going to trust the therapist, and you're going to find a reason to sabotage it, but get back into the people you were talking to.

15:28🔗 Adam You'll enjoy sex eventually, but that should be like the last thing on your list right now.

15:32🔗 Drew I'll tell you the other thing that people like Ashley do is that they will then go for really, really bad people, and only with them can they feel sexual, because it's a bad part of themselves that they feel ashamed of. Amen.

15:44🔗 Adam Amen. I know that. I know that, sister.

15:48🔗 Drew Is there a story?

15:49🔗 Adam Well, yeah. I mean, I, you know, it's...

15:51🔗 Drew I think a lot of young girls do that just generally.

15:53🔗 Adam Yeah. It's like people say, like, rank the sex. I have to say, in my life, when people like the best sex, of all my boyfriends, I mean, people I've loved and cared for...

16:04🔗 Drew Fiance is listening now, easy.

16:07🔗 Adam I love you, Jason, my fiancé. I don't... There's no way to rank the sex. Like, I honestly couldn't. Like, I don't care. Like, it's great. It's... Like, it is what it is.

16:17🔗 Drew Right.

16:18🔗 Adam The only sex that stands out is, like, this one jerk-o who I thought was stupid.

16:25🔗 Drew I did a whole television show on this. I'm fascinated by that. What is that?

16:30🔗 Adam He wasn't a bad guy. He wasn't mean to me.

16:31🔗 Drew He didn't eat me or anything.

16:32🔗 Adam But what is that?

16:32🔗 Drew What is that? Because men don't have that.

16:35🔗 Adam Because it was... It honestly... It was control. Like, I was smarter than him. I knew better than him. I... And I was in control for, like, a minute of my life because he was so dumb and so stupid and, like, shaped like a gorilla. Like, I was like... He was an idiot. And I got to control the situation. And that was the best sex of my life.

16:57🔗 Drew You got to use him.

16:58🔗 Adam I got to use him.

16:59🔗 Exactly.

17:00🔗 Drew But some women talk about being sort of swept away and being out of control as being that...

17:07🔗 Adam See, this is what I think. I think the out of control is women choosing to become out of control. I think that's when they have the best sex. Women...

17:15🔗 Drew But they only do that with the J.O.'s, you know, the guys who are sociopaths.

17:20🔗 Adam But I think that they... A woman being out of control legitimately is scary as shoot. But like, they choose to be out of control, like, what? You're holding my wrist down? What?

17:30🔗 Drew Oh, pretend out of control stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

17:31🔗 Adam Yeah, that's exactly. I think that's what they mistake for out of control. Like, they choose to be out of control.

17:35🔗 Drew Well, some people, if they've been traumatized in a powerless circumstance, they will then be attracted to really out of control situations and will actually recreate, you know, more serious stuff.

17:44🔗 Adam It is... We can... Yeah.

17:47🔗 Drew It's very interesting. Here's the thing I do know is that... I've said this before last couple of weeks is that what makes a... By the way, is this Tuesday? Tuesday? Wednesday?

17:55🔗 Adam Tuesday.

17:55🔗 Drew Tuesday. Okay. My show is the Discovery Health Channel. Some of you are listening across the country.

17:59🔗 Adam Dr. Drew is drunk and on shrooms. Discovery Health Channel.

18:03🔗 Drew That the thing that makes men men is the... There's something called the sex chromosomes. I think their genetic material is packed into the chromosomes. And the sex chromosomes, XY chromosome, makes a male a male is the Y chromosome. And it's decaying. It's getting smaller with time. And it's already a small piece of genetic material. Pretty much the same in all men. So it makes a male a male. It's pretty much all the same. The X chromosome, which is a large piece of genetic material, lots of information, extremely diverse, different one from the other. Women have two of those. So no two women are really the same. They're very different, which adds to the confusion and all these things.

18:38🔗 Adam I think with women it's... We honestly make it up as we go. Like it's one of those things.

18:43🔗 Drew One of the guys is so confused.

18:44🔗 Adam Yeah, exactly. And I think that... I really believe that women don't like bad guys. I truly believe that. Most women, I agree with you. Unless they've been terribly abused. But even slightly abused or sort of emotionally abused. They don't want bad guys. They just want... They want to be bad girls because that's exciting.

19:03🔗 Drew But the only time they can do that is with a bad guy?

19:06🔗 Adam Not necessarily.

19:07🔗 Drew Oh, OK.

19:08🔗 Adam I actually would stand for the other. I mean, you would know more than I do. But I think...

19:14🔗 Drew No, no. When it comes to women, people are very confused.

19:16🔗 Adam Women can be bad girls with the right guys. We all want to be a little bit dirty. We all want to be a little bit... Uh-oh.

19:23🔗 Uh-oh.

19:26🔗 Drew And that would... That guy would be different for different women? Or is that the same guy for all women?

19:33🔗 Adam No, I think different. But he wouldn't be the bad guy.

19:36🔗 Drew He'd be a safe guy?

19:37🔗 Adam He'd be a safe guy. I think.

19:38🔗 Drew I think. Want to take something lighter?

19:40🔗 Adam Yeah.

19:41🔗 Drew OK. And can we have a game on the show called Germany or Florida?

19:45🔗 Adam Oh, what does that mean?

19:47🔗 Drew Anderson, you got the...

19:47🔗 Adam Oh, wait. I've heard this.

19:48🔗 Drew Yes. Basically, Adam realized that all the macabre, weird stories out there in the press either emanate from Germany or Florida. So our callers call in with the story. We tell them Germany or Florida. We sort of play here. Eric. Oh, here. This is David Ambrose.

20:02🔗 Caller Hold on a second, Eric.

20:04🔗 Drew We got to hear the theme song.

20:06🔗 Caller Is it Germany or Florida?

20:12🔗 Drew He's got energy.

20:15🔗 Caller Germany or Florida? Let's find out.

20:27🔗 Drew Got energy.

20:28🔗 Adam I want to, I honestly want to do my version of that and see if I can try to.

20:31🔗 Drew Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

20:32🔗 Adam We'll see, we'll see. Maybe by the end of the show.

20:34🔗 Drew Not now?

20:35🔗 Adam Well, no.

20:36🔗 Drew Okay, by the end of the show.

20:37🔗 Caller Go to hell!

20:39🔗 Adam Uh-oh.

20:40🔗 Drew Oh, he'll get pissed? Well, we'll challenge him at least.

20:43🔗 Adam I love David Ellengrave. He's hilarious.

20:45🔗 Drew Eric, what's going on?

20:46🔗 Hey, Drew, it's Eric at the print shop in Phoenix.

20:49🔗 Drew Hey, Eric, what's going on? He's an Adam aficionado.

20:53🔗 Adam Oh, really?

20:54🔗 Drew He pretends to be Adam.

20:55🔗 A little bit, a little bit, but not tonight, though. Nicole, you have the most beautiful eyes God ever put in a woman.

21:03🔗 Adam Oh, that's so sweet.

21:05🔗 You're a very lucky guy. Whenever you're unmet, my wife calls me in from the other room and says, hey, your girlfriend's on.

21:13🔗 Adam That's sweet. What's your wife's name?

21:16🔗 What's that?

21:16🔗 Adam What's your wife's name?

21:18🔗 Michelle.

21:19🔗 Adam Michelle. Hi, Michelle.

21:21🔗 Oh, she's not listening, I hope.

21:27🔗 Drew Let Nicole believe the fantasy for a second, will you, Eric? Come on, relax.

21:31🔗 Let me tell you, I'm near Florida. A man was arrested at his home the morning after he attempted to break into a liquor store. He had apparently used a chain wrapped around the bumper of his car to try to pull the bars from the front doors of the store. When he accelerated away from the doors, the bumper was ripped from the car.

21:48🔗 Drew With the license plate. I think we heard this one. But I can't remember whether it was Germany or Florida, but it sounds Florida. What do you think? Is it the bump at the loose bumper? In Europe, all the bumper's are incorporated.

22:01🔗 Adam Yeah, it absolutely sounds Florida.

22:02🔗 Drew It sounds like a pickup truck or something. All right, Florida. Go both go on Florida.

22:07🔗 It is Tallahassee, Florida.

22:08🔗 Drew Well done, Eric. Thank you. Well, thanks for the call. All right, buddy. Take care. Are you picking another one?

22:14🔗 Adam Oh. Oh, no. Yes, that one. Oh, no.

22:19🔗 Drew Melanie, 20.

22:21🔗 Adam Melanie.

22:22🔗 Drew Hey there, Melanie.

22:23🔗 Adam Melanie, I'm concerned. What's going on, Melanie?

22:27🔗 Well, I have a tumor in my thyroid.

22:30🔗 Drew Yeah.

22:30🔗 Adam Is it benign? Do you know?

22:32🔗 Yeah, it is.

22:33🔗 Adam Okay.

22:34🔗 It's Hashimoto's thyroiditis.

22:36🔗 Drew So it's not really a tumor, it's a nodule.

22:38🔗 Yeah.

22:39🔗 Drew And Hashimoto, do you have Hashi toxicosis or do you have Hashimoto's thyroiditis?

22:43🔗 Adam See, this is where I want to jump Drew's bones. Like, how awesome is Dr. Drew? He's like, is it schnmetic, or schnmetic?

22:54🔗 Drew This is the leading cause of hypothyroidism.

22:57🔗 Adam Okay.

22:57🔗 Drew Which is also called chronic lymphocytic thyroiditis.

22:59🔗 Adam Is hypo, hypo, is that the one?

23:02🔗 Drew Hypo low, hyper high.

23:03🔗 Adam Hypo low, hyper, so hypo, you get fat or you get thin?

23:08🔗 Drew Hypo you get fat.

23:10🔗 Adam And then hyper you get thin?

23:11🔗 Drew Yeah.

23:11🔗 Okay.

23:11🔗 Drew And she's got, this particular one can have a hyper phase, kind of unusual, but it's the leading cause of hypo.

23:18🔗 Yeah.

23:18🔗 Drew And so you're hypo and you have a nodule. Got it.

23:21🔗 Yeah.

23:21🔗 Adam And where, wait, where's the nodule?

23:22🔗 Drew It's in the thyroid. It's, I mean, it's not cancer. Not cancer. Melanie.

23:28🔗 Adam Okay, go Melanie.

23:29🔗 Okay. Well, I probably had it since I was about 15 or 16. I was wondering how it affected my sex drive because I wasn't really at an age where I would really know the difference.

23:41🔗 Drew It could knock you down a notch or two. And it can also affect your growth and development, more importantly. And it has an influence on circulating sex hormones and how so? Well, it's sort of the accelerator of the body. It sort of spurs everything. Yeah, it kind of down regulates. And so naturally enough, things like sexuality can be affected by that, too. But it's definitely not permanent. Although people with autoimmune thyroid disease, which is what you have, are at some added risk of autoimmune disease in other endocrine organs like the ovaries. So you've got to just kind of keep an eye on it.

24:14🔗 Adam You've got to ask your gynecologist to do that because there's an extra ovarian disease sort of test you can do these days, right?

24:22🔗 Drew Yeah, there's a few things you can do. I'm not quite sure what you're referring to.

24:26🔗 Adam He's smiling at me going like, oh, that's cute.

24:29🔗 Drew But if you get an irregularity in your period, you're going to need to be on thyroid replacement, take the replacement, get the test to make sure it's right. If your periods are still irregular, then you might want to check out the ovarian function.

24:37🔗 Adam But as far as sex drive, I would say it should be normal.

24:40🔗 Drew Everything should be completely normal with us.

24:42🔗 Adam This is the thing, every girl goes through this. Like at 20, I was like, I hate sex, I hate everything. You just gotta go into yourself.

24:48🔗 Drew I want to pick this discussion. We have to actually have to take a break. But I want to pick this discussion up there because you seem to have a lot.

25:01🔗 Adam You pick one. One Florida or Germany. That's my battle.

25:06🔗 Drew There it is.

25:06🔗 Adam That's my battle.

25:08🔗 Drew Nicole Sullivan is my co-host. Her new show is called Hot Properties. It comes out October 7th on ABC. That's Friday at 9.30. Are we going to hear another dag? Yours is much better.

25:24🔗 Adam I can do fart noises with mine.

25:26🔗 Drew All right. We'll come back. In the meantime, the phone number here is 1-800-LOVE-191. The great Nicole Sullivan. You know her from Mad TV. And she's going to tell us all about how women's brains work after this.

25:40🔗 Caller Loveline will be right back.

25:41🔗 So get your problems ready.

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26:09🔗 Drew Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191, The Great Nicole Sullivan, Hot Properties coming out October 7th on ABC 930 Fridays.

26:17🔗 Adam 930 Friday nights, kids. Tune it in.

26:20🔗 Drew You've been in the King of Queens for four years?

26:22🔗 Adam Yeah, I know.

26:23🔗 Drew And Mad TV, of course, forever.

26:25🔗 Adam For six years before that. I'm 100 years old. Hold on, I'm reading all these things.

26:29🔗 Drew Karen.

26:29🔗 Adam What's a relationship?

26:30🔗 Drew Are you gonna tell us about how women's brains work? You started with, all women wanna do that. And I thought, OK, this I have to hear what all women want to do.

26:37🔗 Adam I don't even know where I was going with that. We were talking about sex.

26:40🔗 Drew About sex and what makes someone happy when they're teenagers.

26:43🔗 Adam I mean, the thing is this, like all women, this is the fallacy is that like, I love when guys go like, my girl loves having sex many times and she can come, she manage many times. Like, it's all. Yeah. BS.

27:00🔗 Drew Well, first of all, you understand men are indoctrinated with the idea that women are experiencing the same thing that they are.

27:06🔗 Adam Absolutely not.

27:08🔗 Drew Yes, I'm aware of that.

27:09🔗 Adam And I'm saying that as someone, I legitimately actually really like sex and my fiance, I love you Jason. Like, we have great sex. Like, it's amazing. But I'm also in my 30s and it's so much different now than it was. It's honestly a lie. My 20s was a lie of sex.

27:32🔗 Drew Like, why did you guys do it? Men are driven out of their mind to do it.

27:37🔗 Adam Because you want to be that person to them. You want to be that good to that person. You're like, I want to be that person.

27:45🔗 Drew This is the thing that drives me. Approval. But why do women, why do I get the approval by going, here's what I need. Here's what I'm looking for in this relationship. And you, no. Unrealistic.

27:54🔗 Adam No, unrealistic. There's no, at 24, you're going to go, here's what I need in this relationship. No, you're going to get the best BJ you can. And hope that they really like you. That's the truth.

28:05🔗 Drew But that's so, I have to use such a pejorative term. It's pathetic.

28:09🔗 Adam Yeah, it's so pathetic. And ladies, it leads you to nowhere. Like, I didn't get engaged till I was 35 for a reason. It's because I was constantly trying to prove myself. And, I mean, I have to say, I was not a slutty person. Like, I didn't lose my virginity till I was 21. Like, I was really a prudish. And I've only slept with, like, 15 people in my life, which is, you know, not a lot, considering that I'm 35 and got engaged. Like, but the problem is, like, you're convinced at the time. Like, I just wanted to make a mark. Like, I wanted to, like, remember me. Like me, remember me.

28:46🔗 Drew So different than what men's motivational priorities are. So different.

28:51🔗 Adam Their motivation is that evening. My motivation was, remember me in a month.

28:55🔗 Drew Their motivation is, I have to do this.

28:57🔗 Adam Yeah.

28:57🔗 Drew I have to.

28:59🔗 Adam Mine was, I really like a girlfriend of mine did a thing. And this is I don't want to talk. I don't want to talk glibly using the word rape. I really don't. But my girlfriend said, like, half of my sexual experiences in my 20s were basically date rape. And I don't mean to be glib, but like, it's these moments you're like, I don't really want to, but you do anyway. Ladies, it's not worth it. They don't care. You think they'll care tomorrow and they don't care.

29:24🔗 Drew That's like anathema where they're at. Like that doesn't even figure in. It doesn't even matter. It's not like, what? What are you talking about? How does that? We're the same.

29:36🔗 Adam And then they'll remember tomorrow and then they'll...

29:38🔗 Drew No.

29:39🔗 Adam You don't even expect a phone call. You expect them to tell their friends about you. And it's still, it just you want to matter somewhere. And the, it's, I know.

29:47🔗 Drew I put my daughter in a convent, convent. Swear to God. So you're getting married. Well, we'll talk more about the marriage in a second. Okay. So you pick a call here.

29:55🔗 Adam A weight loss. I always love weight loss, but that's a sort of silly question.

29:59🔗 Drew It's kind of a way.

30:00🔗 Adam I'm trying to do it. Oh, go. Yes. Go, go, go.

30:03🔗 Drew Sheena, 20.

30:05🔗 Yeah. Hi.

30:06🔗 Hey, what's up?

30:08🔗 Nicole Sullivan Well, I'm pretty messed up over like, like I'm 20 and I'm pretty messed up over a guy that I'm in love with and he's 45 and nobody's been able to give me any, you know, good advice. So I was just hoping for an outside opinion.

30:21🔗 Drew Did you do something with this guy?

30:23🔗 Nicole Sullivan No. And it's like, I've never had a physical relationship with him at all.

30:27🔗 He's just like, I'm completely and totally in love with him.

30:30🔗 Nicole Sullivan And I know he has feelings for me.

30:32🔗 Caller And I mean, how do you know that?

30:33🔗 Drew How do you, how do you know that?

30:35🔗 Nicole Sullivan Cause he's told me.

30:37🔗 Adam Okay, I'm going to talk to you right now, real quick. Okay. I was 21 years old. Excuse me, worked in an office with a 35, you know, 10 years, 35 year old, had feelings for me. And he did, like I stand by at this day, had feelings for me, entered a relationship with him, married.

30:55🔗 Drew He was married?

30:55🔗 Adam He was married. The, and my fiance knows about this, so I'm admitting it. It was the worst thing I've ever done to myself. And it's, you're in a, you're basically, you know, in a kamikaze pilot is, do you know what that expression is?

31:12🔗 Nicole Sullivan Yeah, I know that guy.

31:13🔗 Adam Yeah, you're, you're flying a plane down to the ground and it's going to end in flames. And it doesn't, the thing is, I believe you. I believe that he likes you and I believe that he has feelings for you. The thing is, it doesn't matter.

31:26🔗 Nicole Sullivan I know. I've known him for like four years.

31:28🔗 And the same, what makes it worth is he was married and he has a daughter.

31:32🔗 Adam Yeah.

31:33🔗 Nicole Sullivan And he just got a divorce. And it's like, he told me he was getting a divorce before he actually got the divorce. And I just feel responsible now that maybe some part of it had to do with me, because.

31:45🔗 Drew No, you're 20. Forget it.

31:47🔗 Adam I think you're adorable, but there's no way someone got a divorce over you. There's no way.

31:51🔗 Drew Yeah.

31:51🔗 Adam And I'm sure you're adorable and awesome, but there's no way.

31:54🔗 Drew This is not a good, this is too big an age difference. It would be a very seriously unhappy thing for you to go with this guy.

32:01🔗 Adam Can you imagine when you're 40 and yeah, I'm seriously unhappy right now.

32:05🔗 Nicole Sullivan Just even, you know, I know that nothing can ever happen. And that's what's just the hardest part is I just know that nothing can ever come of our relationship.

32:12🔗 Drew Really. The smartest thing is to get out of that environment and go have a life somewhere else away from this guy. Cut it off and establish a social care.

32:20🔗 Nicole Sullivan I was I tried and I'm actually in a separate state than he is right now. But he could keep it.

32:26🔗 Drew That's that's all good. How did it get so far along?

32:29🔗 Nicole Sullivan Yeah. I worked with him when I was in high school and then I moved away. I went to college.

32:37🔗 Drew Okay. Well, here's the other part you got to know. This guy is an asshole. That's what you have to know and that's the part you can't see. They're yelling at me for you. This guy is an a-hole then. Let me say that. This guy is not, you can't see it from your perspective because of course you idealize him. You have all these wonderful feelings for him. But a man, a father, would allow himself to go into that kind of a relationship with even potentially evoking romantic passions in you is a jerk, is a guy with problems and a guy you're not going to want to stay with. By the way, if you want to know how his next relationship is going to end, look at the last one, okay? That's how yours is going to end with him too.

33:18🔗 Adam Imagine a guy you're going to get married, let's say in five, ten years, right? Imagine your husband all of a sudden likes a 16, 17, 18-year-old. What would you think of him?

33:28🔗 Nicole Sullivan Oh, I think he's a bastard.

33:30🔗 Adam Yeah. That's who you're attracted to right now.

33:32🔗 Drew Something's wrong. Something's very, very wrong there. I don't know him, but I can tell you there's a symptom here that suggests something is very wrong.

33:39🔗 Adam I believe you when you say that he has feelings for you. I believe you and the bottom line is be the bigger person and dump him.

33:45🔗 Drew Take a quick one from Dave, 19. Dave.

33:48🔗 Hey, how are you guys doing tonight?

33:49🔗 Drew We're good. What's going on there, buddy?

33:52🔗 I had a little question about a drug test here.

33:55🔗 Adam Oh, I love these because the answers are always the same and people always call like, wait, one more thing. How can I trick this drug test? All right, Dave, what do you have?

34:06🔗 There you go. I heard it before that it's like body weight about like how far, how long it takes to get out of your system.

34:15🔗 Drew That's true. For me, it's been- Yeah.

34:18🔗 Not this Friday, but last Friday. And I need to get a drug test September 1st to get-

34:23🔗 Drew The last time you smoked pot was-

34:27🔗 Adam Last Friday.

34:28🔗 Drew 10 days ago?

34:29🔗 Last Friday, correct.

34:30🔗 Drew And you have a test coming up on September 1st.

34:33🔗 Adam He should be fine.

34:34🔗 Drew Were you even smoking an 8-Ball a day for two years?

34:37🔗 Not exactly that, but-

34:39🔗 Drew Were you close?

34:39🔗 I think it's three or four months.

34:41🔗 Adam 8-Ball? You can use 8-Ball with pot too?

34:44🔗 Drew People talk about it that way. I don't know what the hell they're talking about, even frankly. But it's a lot. It's a lot.

34:47🔗 There's some slang there.

34:49🔗 Drew A lid. I always call them lids and I was nice and cool.

34:52🔗 Adam You should be fine then.

34:53🔗 Drew Well, you should be fine even at that heavy consumption. Certainly, if you're going to be changing your exercise patterns or losing weight, you'd want to do that now because stuff can be released from the fat. Even several weeks later, but you're talking about six weeks and that should be fine.

35:07🔗 Adam Wear a garbage bag and take a nice jog.

35:11🔗 The other question I had is that some drug test that my friend was talking about, they take a piece of your hair?

35:18🔗 Drew Yeah, that one, that's a nefarious test. That's hard to interpret. It's hard to predict how it's going to turn out. I'd be more concerned about that if they're going to do a hair test, but they normally don't do that because they really are not really reproducible. They can't really do much with it.

35:33🔗 Adam If they're going to do that, you may be working for the wrong firm if you're a pot smoker.

35:39🔗 Drew Yeah, good point. But he said he's not going to be an airline pilot.

35:41🔗 Adam Wait, did you hear that? I mean, I don't mean to stop the questions, but remember, there was that story, because I know you're a big anti-ecstasy person, and that the kid who died from ecstasy supposedly, and he actually died from ecstasy and cocaine, I saw it on Dateline, and they took some of his hair, and they said of his hair, like it was like 80 percent like the serotonin, they could tell how much serotonin levels he had from his hair.

36:08🔗 Drew So he had a serotonin excess syndrome, the serotonin syndrome, which is a rare complication of-

36:13🔗 Adam It was one of the very few, and the mother donated his brain to science, knowing that, yeah, it was rough.

36:20🔗 Drew Poker. I watched you kill everybody. It seemed like you seemed like a show, like you're pretending like you didn't know what you're doing, and that some of your betting was diabolical.

36:34🔗 Adam Listen, I'm not going to lie to you, I can play a little poker. I've never actually before I played that game- Diabolical.

36:39🔗 Drew Did you see it? Did you hear the commentary?

36:41🔗 Adam Yeah. Yeah, it was good. Well, here's a little fun fact for the kids at home. Between the first match that I played, honestly, I've been playing poker my whole life, but I only played Texas Hold'em once.

36:53🔗 Drew Did anybody know that?

36:54🔗 Adam Yeah, I told them, but I sort of played dumb, but they all sort of bought into it. Between that game and the finals, I totally made out with Phil Gordon, the guy, the poker pro. And he's so cute, and he's worth $98 million. So I was like, I'm going to give it a shot. I mean, he's super cute. And in the finals game, he was like, Sullivan makes another nice move. Suddenly he was on my side. But I have to say, I'm not a bad poker player because they really think I'm dumb. I've played now a handful of really good tournaments. And I always play dumb, like, I'm just stupid. And I don't know what I'm doing. And they always buy it. And the bottom line is I'm pretty good. I mean, I'm okay. I mean, I'm okay.

37:40🔗 Drew No, no, really good, really good. And when you watched the game, it was pretty amazing. And I saw the one where you, I think Paul Rudd was sitting across from you.

37:46🔗 Adam Oh my God, that was the worst.

37:48🔗 Drew Why?

37:48🔗 Adam Because I was on tilt, because I played again right before that really badly. And I was so mad at myself that I stayed in on a hand I shouldn't have.

37:56🔗 Caller You ended up killing them all.

37:58🔗 Adam With Paul Rudd, I drew three cards to an, no, two cards to an inside straight. I mean, that's crazy. And push him out of the game.

38:06🔗 Drew We had do, we had do. He's a very nice guy by the way.

38:09🔗 Adam Oh, Paul Rudd's the best.

38:10🔗 Drew All right, we gotta take another break here. Nicole Sullivan.

38:12🔗 Adam Wait, I have so many more questions.

38:13🔗 Drew Yeah, we have a lot of questions. We still gotta talk about marriage.

38:15🔗 Adam How much more time do we have?

38:16🔗 Drew We got an hour and fifteen. We're good. And we gotta talk about, you can stay the whole show.

38:19🔗 Adam Oh, found video. Oh, that's awesome.

38:20🔗 Drew And a necrophilia, beautiful, beautiful.

38:22🔗 Adam Necrophilia.

38:23🔗 Drew All right We'll start with a necrophilia call after the break. The phone number here is 1-800-LOVE-191. We're also going to talk about marriage, right? You had questions about marriage?

38:29🔗 Adam Yeah, yeah.

38:30🔗 Drew I wonder how you went from making out with a poker pro to being engaged, but whatever. This is Dr. Drew. Adam is away this week and in his shoes.

38:37🔗 Adam I sound like Adam, right?

38:38🔗 Drew The great Nicole Sullivan. Exactly. The sensitivity, the erudite nature, what we're discussing here. Take the insight into the female. That's Adam.

38:46🔗 Adam See, erudite is such an Adam word.

38:49🔗 Drew Absolutely. He talks just like that. All right, we'll be back right after this.

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39:03🔗 Live on O5.

39:05🔗 Drew Nicole Sullivan joins us on Loveline 1-800-LOVE-191. Her new show is called Hot Properties. October 7th it debuts. It's 930 Fridays. ABC can also catch her on King of Queens. And, of course, MADtv where if I had to list all... What was your favorite character in MADtv? Lucy Ball?

39:24🔗 Adam Oh, I love doing Lucy Ball. Yeah. You know, just mostly because like, you know, just I have... I'm an over actor like she is. I'm just a huge bad actress. But I have to say my favorite character was Antonia, which is... I mean, not a lot of people know it, but like this character that talked like this. Oh, yes. Oh, yes, yes. Hello, Titi. Hello, you today. And that was really just the voice I did when I talked to my kitty cat, whose name was Titi. Hello. And it became a character.

39:52🔗 Drew Would you sit around and sort of work stuff out as a group or would you sit with writers and sort of, where you do write them yourselves or how would that work?

39:59🔗 Adam You know, the Vancom Lady, which is the one that I did the most. Yeah. Hi, how are you today? Nice. You know, that weird woman I did for my audition. And that's just based on like a really mean woman in Skokie, Illinois. Right. And that one was the most popular and I love doing her. But that one I came up with myself and then, you know, Antonia came up with myself. And then there's also like Darlene McBride, which is this really mean, southern, like red state, like I love guns and Republicans.

40:28🔗 Drew Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

40:28🔗 Adam And that was all the writers, Tigger and Lumiere. Like, so there's a lot of stuff I did that was just there. It's like, I wish I could take credit for a lot of the stuff.

40:34🔗 Drew Don't you sing something as her? Is there a song?

40:37🔗 Adam Yeah, there's a lot of songs. It's like, take your butt back to Mexico, adios and that's that. Yeah, it's all racist. Whenever there's a racist character, it's me.

40:49🔗 Drew Oh, good.

40:50🔗 Adam But based on nothing.

40:51🔗 Drew And you guys all still friends or?

40:53🔗 Adam You know, we really, I mean, listen, it's not the cast of Friends. It's not like me and Courtney are hanging out buying homes together. But me and Mike McDonald are very close, like really close. And me and Mo Collins and Alex Borstein and Will Sasso and I went to his birthday party. And yeah, we're actually it's a really good family.

41:11🔗 Drew You know, like Stephanie, is that?

41:12🔗 Adam Yes, Stephanie Weir. Oh, my God.

41:14🔗 Drew You guys are close with?

41:15🔗 Adam Yeah. I mean, Stephanie and I sort of like we sort of were only overlapped like a year and a half. So we never got that close. I was sort of on my way out as she came in. But Stephanie Weir is so talented. Like she's genius.

41:27🔗 Drew All of you. All of you are sort of genius leveled.

41:30🔗 Adam Not all of us.

41:31🔗 Drew There are a few that weren't?

41:32🔗 Adam Yeah.

41:32🔗 Drew Well, I know Will a couple of times. When he was fat.

41:36🔗 Adam Will is so funny.

41:37🔗 Drew When he was fat.

41:38🔗 Adam When he was fat. Only in fat. Will gained the weight back. Jesus. I mean, she's Louise. Can I say Jesus?

41:43🔗 Drew Yeah, yeah. Whatever. It is John 21. John?

41:46🔗 Yes.

41:47🔗 Drew What's going on there, buddy?

41:49🔗 Caller Well, I borrowed my buddy's laptop a few days ago and I was just going through some of his files and I found some movies of people having sex with corpses, dead people. And to tell you the truth, it really freaks me out. I never thought that he'd be into that kind of thing. All right.

42:12🔗 Drew What's your question?

42:14🔗 Caller Well, I'm wondering, well, his mom passed away when he was a freshman in high school, when we were both freshmen in high school. I wonder if there might be something wrong with him. I mean, his dad was a pediatric homicide cop in Anaheim for about 50 years.

42:30🔗 Drew Oh, interesting. My thinking on that would be more, I know very little about necrophilia or having people aroused by seeing dead people and stuff. Are you finding it more and more? Yes, I am. Okay. And Nicole, we were wondering if you were going to bogus call or not, because on our screen here it says, should I confront him? And I said, Nicole, if you had heard this story, you'd only be interested in what the hell's wrong with your friend. And that's what you're concerned with. And the fact that his father may have had pictures of dead people and stuff, and I had another nurse I worked with whose father was in homicide. He used to keep his homicide books at that home. And if you see those kinds of horrifying things as a child, the amazing thing about the human is things that terrorize you when your kid become sources of attraction in young adulthood. And so it's possible he saw a bunch of stuff, even just pictures. And maybe that's sort of the source of the arousal now.

43:18🔗 Adam I mean, can I ask a question? If you know him personally, does he also get off on... Does he also look at porn of like regular stuff? Or does he like looking at the Maxim or the Stuff magazines?

43:33🔗 Caller Well, he has a subscription to FHM for him magazine. And he and I have sort of, you know, chill, have a couple of drinks and everything and just download porn off the internet. Mostly like anime, just stuff to laugh at. But the thing I...

43:49🔗 Adam Well, I can't believe you guys are, I can't believe you guys are single.

43:52🔗 Drew Go ahead. Porn is serious business, John. I wouldn't even laugh at it. How dare you? I'm going to report to Mr. Corolla when he returns.

43:59🔗 Caller Well, I'll call back. Talk to him as well. Thing is, is both he and I do have girlfriends. I've been going out with my girlfriend for about four and a half years. He started up a relationship about two years ago. The thing that kind of concerned me about it was he has seen photos from when his dad was a police officer because he considered being a crime scene investigator and his dad really didn't want him getting into that field. So his dad sort of tried to show him the horrifying aspects and showed him a couple of photos of the most disturbing things to turn him off to the idea of it.

44:37🔗 Drew Well, isn't it interesting how it turned him on in a different way? And yeah, listen, you're sort of going down the right path with this, John. I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's a part of a bigger issue here. But it all kind of fits together for me.

44:48🔗 Adam And, you know, it sounds like it'll work itself out. Like I doubt that he's going to go f a dead body.

44:56🔗 Drew No, right.

44:56🔗 Adam It sounds like he's got a weird sort of fascination with something because of his dad.

44:59🔗 Drew Correct. I think that's exactly what it is. And if he's able to have normal relationships and they're stable, he's not using a lot of drugs and alcohol or feeling seeming depressed or overwhelmed in some other way or chaos in his life. I let it go. I'm sure when you guys are having beer someday, this will come up anyway.

45:14🔗 Adam I just mentioned to him like, dude, it's kind of gross and I think he's probably a little obsessed. I watch a lot of Dateline in 48 Hours. I watch a lot of dead body stuff myself.

45:24🔗 Drew But this stuff though, the stuff that these forensic guys have is just unbelievable. And you see that as a kid and it kind of tweaks your chemistry a little bit and it can take a while to work out.

45:33🔗 Adam Maybe he shouldn't make him feel like he's weird?

45:35🔗 Drew I just let it go, but I'm sure it will come up over a beer someday. And I wouldn't make him feel bad about it. To say, you know, do you have a problem with this? You okay? You need help. And otherwise, if it's just something that's isolated and not part of a bigger issue, I'd let it go.

45:51🔗 Adam If he doesn't seem upset, just laugh about it and say, like, move on, dude.

45:54🔗 Drew Yeah, if you can't let it go. It's kind of weird though, I must admit. So Nicole, we gotta go on another break. And it's come fast, the show's going fast.

46:01🔗 Adam It's, this is what upsets me about the show. It's like, I just, when I get really into it, you guys are like, break, break, break.

46:05🔗 Drew I know, we do the 20 and 40 and 54. And so here we are at 54. And we're gonna do a lot more. We got a bunch of questions from Nicole on the board here. We still have to talk about marriage. We've talked about poker, but I'd like a few tips on that too. And again, the great Nicole Sullivan is here.

46:21🔗 Adam The great.

46:22🔗 Drew The great.

46:22🔗 Adam As if I'm a magician.

46:23🔗 Drew Dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear. That would be Nicole the Great.

46:26🔗 Adam I'm gonna make Dr. Drew, actually I've made Adam disappear already. That's the whole point.

46:29🔗 Drew And it's been way too long since we've had her up here. The new show is ABC, 930 Fridays, Hot Properties. And we'll return with more after this.

46:50🔗 Caller If you need help, call Loveline. 1-800-LOVE-191.

47:03🔗 Drew Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191, I'm Dr. Drew. He's Adam Carolla, and he's away this week. And in his...

47:09🔗 Adam So I'm Adam Carolla.

47:10🔗 Drew So she's Adam Carolla. She's Nicole Sullivan, The Great. Now you sound like a ruler of Russia in the 12th century.

47:17🔗 Adam Wouldn't that be awesome?

47:20🔗 Drew She died auspiciously. Catherine, that is. Speaking of these kinds of things. And we got a bunch of calls from Nicole. The phone number again, 1-800-LOVE-191. Again, you know, Nicole from Mad TV.

47:34🔗 Adam King of Queens too.

47:35🔗 Drew And a new show called Hot Properties out on October 7th, ABC 930 Friday. Do Hello Joe so they know who you are.

47:41🔗 Adam Hello Joe.

47:42🔗 Drew No, no, as the character that talks to your cat.

47:46🔗 Adam Oh, that's Cece. Hello Cece, how are you today? Nice to meet you.

47:52🔗 Drew Michael, you have a question for Nicole?

47:55🔗 Adam Hi, Michael.

47:56🔗 Oh, hi, is that me?

47:58🔗 Adam Yeah, go, go, go.

47:59🔗 Drew Caller who goes by Michael?

48:00🔗 I'm on the fax machine right now.

48:02🔗 Drew Oh, well, sorry to interrupt you. I'm sorry.

48:05🔗 I'm a fan of your show on Discovery Health Channel.

48:09🔗 Drew Oh, thanks.

48:10🔗 And I just wanted to say that I'm a big fan of Nicole. I post on the planetmadtv.com forums, and I told him. Nice.

48:19🔗 Adam Thank you.

48:19🔗 My question for you, Nicole, is who was your favorite cast member of all time?

48:26🔗 Adam You know, I've got, as far as talent wise, it's, it's, there's so many. David Herman was amazing. Will Sasso, Alex Borstein. But my favorite cast member, I worked with, it's a tie. Brian Callan from, you know, if you're an old school Matt TV fan, it's Brian Callan from the first two years. And Michael McDonald is my favorite person. He and I are so close and he's my favorite cast member I ever worked with.

48:51🔗 Drew How about ladies? Amongst the ladies, can you pick?

48:54🔗 Adam Gosh.

48:55🔗 Drew Cause you're sort of, we're sort of putting us out because we're saying, yeah, so probably some people are better friends, but some people you have more sort of envy of their skill or something.

49:03🔗 Adam I mean, Alex, it's between Alex Borstein and Mo Collins and, um, I think they're a crazy good actress. She's an M. Mo Collins is amazing. I have to say my favorite character, my favorite characters like watching like a fan is Stuart. I love Michael McDonald, Stuart. And I love, um, you know, Ms. Swan. So I have to say Alex Borstein because her Ms. Swan character cracks me up.

49:28🔗 Okay.

49:28🔗 Drew That's your question, Michael.

49:30🔗 Yes, it did. Thank you very much.

49:32🔗 Adam Thanks, Michael.

49:33🔗 Drew And there's a number three that Moe does, the, the high strung, uh, the ones to get married, but is afraid she's going to be the first.

49:41🔗 Adam With a weird voice.

49:42🔗 Yeah.

49:42🔗 Adam Yeah. Trina.

49:44🔗 Trina.

49:45🔗 Drew Oh my God. All right. Let's see what we've got here. This is, uh, has been on the hole. Here's Ben has been on hold for 82 minutes. Ben, what's going on?

49:52🔗 Adam I got 82 minutes.

49:54🔗 Drew Hey, Ben.

49:56🔗 Um, I've been dating my girlfriend for a year and, uh, still, like, even if there's like, like we'll be going on the street or something, and I'll be like, just like a remotely good looking girl or something. And even if my head like turns that way, I'll get, uh, yelled at for hours, even if I'm not even looking towards there, just because she thinks I'm checking everybody out.

50:14🔗 Drew How old is she?

50:15🔗 She's 17.

50:17🔗 Drew There's something that testosterone does to the male brain that puts them sort of on alert and scanning all the time. And it's almost, uh, you have to willfully restrain yourself from that. Because you will automatically do that. And if it really bothers your girlfriend that much, why don't you kind of see if you can get it to control?

50:34🔗 Adam Look to the ground.

50:36🔗 That's what I try to do.

50:37🔗 But, like, if we were driving down the street or something, I'm looking out the window and, like, someone's walking by, same thing happens.

50:45🔗 Drew Well, Nicole, what about this? She's so insecure that he's not allowed to even participate on the planet.

50:50🔗 Adam Well, at this age, he's not.

50:53🔗 Drew Well, that's it. That's it.

50:54🔗 Adam Yeah, I mean, she's 17. You just can't, like, once they get older, you can sort of explain it away and go, like, no, I love you more. But at 17, she's not going to hear that.

51:02🔗 Drew Too fragile.

51:03🔗 Adam Look away. Actively, actively look away or actively go, ew.

51:07🔗 Drew What is that? I mean, guys can't, I mean...

51:11🔗 Adam I mean, the bottom line...

51:12🔗 Drew You don't want them to lie. You don't want them to go, ew. You just want them to stay diligently not look. Yeah.

51:17🔗 Adam I mean, 17-year-old ego for a girl is so fragile. They think they're fat and ugly and pimply every minute of the day, even if they're not.

51:26🔗 Drew Is that something that other females do to them?

51:30🔗 Adam Oh, absolutely. I mean, girls at 17, girls dress for girls. They wear clothing for other girls. They wear their hair for other girls. They give BJs for boys. That's what we do for boys. We dress and act to outcompete other girls. So you looking at another girl means her entire day of looking at her hair was ruined. It was for nothing.

51:55🔗 Drew It's so hard for me to understand that.

51:57🔗 Adam Even if you're not attracted to the other girl, it means her day of brushing her hair the right way and doing everything right was for nothing. So you just got to actively look the other way. Wow.

52:08🔗 Drew Women are so interesting. This is Emily 17.

52:14🔗 Hi, this is, yeah, nevermind, sorry.

52:18🔗 Adam Emily, I'm looking at what you're, oh, Emily, talk.

52:22🔗 I'm like nervous.

52:25🔗 Yeah.

52:27🔗 Oh my God, I'm on the air. Okay, so I was raped when I was 15. I lost my virginity when I was 13.

52:37🔗 Adam Who were you raped by?

52:39🔗 My friend's dad.

52:40🔗 Drew Oh my God. And what happened at 13? That's a little young to be getting going.

52:45🔗 My parents split.

52:47🔗 Drew Oh, so you were sort of acting out and depressed.

52:49🔗 Adam And who did you sleep with at 13?

52:52🔗 My 13-year-old boyfriend.

52:53🔗 Adam Okay.

52:54🔗 Drew All right. And so it's been kind of rough since you were 13.

52:58🔗 Adam What the, come on, dude.

52:59🔗 Did you report it? No. I know I have like five more years, but I don't want to lose the relationship I have with my friends. So it's kind of a little bulwama I'm in.

53:10🔗 Adam But you don't go over to their house anymore, I assume, right?

53:14🔗 I don't see the dad. Like the last time I saw him was New Year's, I think.

53:20🔗 Drew And you know, not to be along with him and not to be around perpetrator like that. But here's the deal. The fact that you had been so badly victimized by this guy and then didn't report it, suggest that victimization is something you've gotten used to maybe earlier in your life.

53:34🔗 Caller Um, I don't know. There's nothing really, I don't know. I've been tormented and abused like my entire life.

53:43🔗 Drew That's what I'm talking about. I'm not saying you necessarily were sexually abused.

53:46🔗 Adam Maybe that's it.

53:47🔗 Drew Maybe that's just what I'm doing.

53:48🔗 Adam Tormented and abused, sweetie.

53:50🔗 Drew Yeah, that's tough, Emily. This is, it's going to be an unhappy existence if you don't make some changes.

53:56🔗 Adam Emily, you know you're not in a good space, right?

53:59🔗 Caller No, I know. I'm like getting better. My life has changed. It's turned around for the better.

54:06🔗 Drew What's your question tonight? You need some work, that's for sure.

54:09🔗 Caller Well, I've kind of, since then, I've kind of been overly sexually active.

54:17🔗 Adam Of course. Yeah, you're looking for approval in a way that you didn't get with the guys who raped you.

54:23🔗 Drew Well, it, what tends to happen is, strangely enough, after a rape, women oftentimes will compulsively act out sexually. It's almost hard to explain rationally because it's sort of reenacting the trauma over and over again to try to get control over it or something. I think to even talk rationally about it almost defies the fact that it just happens. Also, with the abuse and what, how did you describe your childhood? Your, how did you describe it?

54:50🔗 Adam What were the words, Emily?

54:52🔗 Drew Your abuse?

54:53🔗 Adam Trauma.

54:54🔗 Caller Your abuse or something like that?

54:56🔗 Drew Torment. Torment and abuse. Very poetic, Emily, but the fact is, after having been through that kind of a childhood, you're gonna use whatever means you have available to make yourself feel better. And the things that are offered young people are primarily things like drugs and alcohol, sex, extreme sports, you know, loud music, things that sort of give you some release, do feel good, do work for you, but end up ultimately ultimately making you feel worse or having more serious consequences like addiction.

55:24🔗 Caller Yeah, because I have tabled with drugs and I'm sure I'm sure.

55:31🔗 Adam I mean, you know, every 17 year old dabbles. Here's the thing, Emily, you need to know, and you do know this, you're different. Like you've been screwed up. So you are officially different than other people. The thing that you need to do is take control of that and not allow that, like not allowed to go down that path that you've heard on this show. You've you've you've listened to this show, right? A million times, Loveline? Yeah. You've listened to every f'ed up girl going, and then I married at 19 and then I was raped seven more. You need to stop your own cycle. I mean, the problem is no one's in charge of you but you. So you're you're you're totally screwed up. You've been f'ed up. Now you need to stop it and start dealing the best you can. The number one way to do that is stop. Do not sleep with other people at this point. Just don't. It's you know you feel stupid and gross afterwards, right? It's not worth it.

56:27🔗 Caller I like, I don't know. Six months afterwards, I was totally unable to feel fulfilled, happy in any sort of way. But I don't know. I kind of overcame that after, I don't know, maybe a year.

56:44🔗 Adam All right. See, this is why you're the doctor. Go, go, go, go, go, Dr. Drew.

56:47🔗 Drew No, but here's the bottom line, that this is only gonna, you're saying that what you're doing works for you. And believe me, all my heroin addicts tell me that the heroin worked for them for a while. So what I'm telling you is that this is going to, this house of cards is not a very effective way to deal with the torment and abuse as you say it. I'll just give you some basic advice. Other than giving again a glib response about going to get more therapy, how about you find a group of friends who genuinely care about Emily. I mean that sounds kind of glib and ridiculous too.

57:15🔗 Adam No, no, that actually doesn't because that's doable.

57:18🔗 Drew Right, find people who are just, you can just hang out with and just share a part of yourself with and feel safe and secure and focus on that and not socializing and not guys and not parties and just focus on hanging out and having a conversation with people who pay attention and appreciate you.

57:33🔗 Adam And you don't, if I may say, and Dr. Drew may correct me, you don't vomit up all your issues to them. Like you don't show up to the first lunch with them and vomit up like, oh my God, I've been raped. Just you don't vomit up all your issues. Just like sort of piecemeal it, like give it, you know, trust someone. You don't wear it on your sleeve. Like people don't need to know everything. You keep some of that for the right people to tell.

57:56🔗 Drew And slowly. So again, just get a connection going with people.

57:59🔗 Adam Don't lie to anyone.

57:59🔗 Drew I mean, again, I knew you were coming down. So I watched the Mad TV tonight and I saw a great skit again with Mo Collins and Bob Newhart.

58:06🔗 Adam Oh, hello Bob Newhart, yes, yes.

58:08🔗 Drew And she just goes, I have two words for you. Just take it out and incorporate it in your life. And are you ready for the words now? Stop it. Stop it.

58:14🔗 Adam Just stop it. Yeah, Emily, stop sleeping with people. Honestly, just if you do nothing else, don't sleep with dudes right now. Just take it easy. You've got your whole life to sleep with them. Whole life.

58:27🔗 Drew Lots of time to rack up huge numbers.

58:28🔗 Adam Absolutely.

58:29🔗 Drew All right. Here's a question for Nicole's 27.

58:32🔗 Hello.

58:32🔗 Drew Nicky. I beg your pardon.

58:34🔗 Nicky's 27.

58:34🔗 Adam Hi, Nicky.

58:35🔗 Hi. How's it going?

58:36🔗 Drew Good.

58:37🔗 Adam How are you?

58:37🔗 Caller I was just curious.

58:38🔗 Caller How did you get your start?

58:40🔗 I mean, you're so hysterical on Matt TV. I mean, you're just the funniest person on there. How did you get your start? Did you do stand up comedy or?

58:50🔗 Adam Thanks very much. No, I actually didn't. I mean, I sort of took-

58:53🔗 Drew Stand up is a different discipline, isn't it?

58:55🔗 Adam Yeah, it's such a different, it's such a different, even improv.

58:58🔗 Drew I think people are confused about comedy.

59:00🔗 Adam You know, I did, I mean, basically I was trained, I mean, I've been acting since I was a kid. Like, I was on Broadway at like seven or eight doing- I, you know, I did, I worked with Bette Midler. I did Bette Midler's tour. Wow, wow. And, you know, I was a, you know, a backup for Annie, the musical, like, you know, Pepper, you know, I don't know if anyone knows Pepper, from It's a Hard Knock Life. But I was a kid actor, so I've been doing it forever. And then I sort of quit, retired, if you will, at 12. And then joined again in college and went to college for it. And so mine is a very different, like I was very much like Chekhov, Shakespeare. I was very classically trained. And then I came to LA and sort of joined the circus, if you will. Now, if you're in LA and you want to become an actor, I definitely recommend, and you want to be a comedian, I definitely recommend going to classes, acting classes, groundlings.

59:48🔗 Drew Were you a groundling?

59:49🔗 Adam I was, I was not a groundling. I did honestly did none of that. I wore a miniskirt to my audition. That's the best I can say, is that I was a really good actor that sort of faked my way through being funny. That's the best I can say. I was not very funny at all and I sort of faked my way. But if you want to start...

1:00:06🔗 Drew Did you have comedic training?

1:00:08🔗 Yeah, we had like professional training, yeah.

1:00:10🔗 Adam I mean, I went to college for acting, so like, no.

1:00:12🔗 Drew There's some there.

1:00:13🔗 Adam I mean, yeah, there's some there.

1:00:14🔗 Drew Like, it was more improvisational stuff.

1:00:16🔗 Adam It was more like Noel Coward comedy. You know what I mean? Like, it... It was much more like play-oriented sort of stuff.

1:00:22🔗 Caller Yeah, I did some of that myself, yeah.

1:00:23🔗 Adam Oh, good, good. Good for you.

1:00:25🔗 Caller Yeah, but people say I should do comedic, but I don't know about standing up in front of a crowded room, you know?

1:00:31🔗 Adam Yeah, I never did it. You don't need to do that to be an actor. You just need to get into a class and go to Groundlings or Theater Sports or Improv Olympic and take classes.

1:00:40🔗 Drew Here's another question along the same line. Kent, 26.

1:00:43🔗 Caller Oh, hey.

1:00:44🔗 Drew Hey.

1:00:45🔗 Caller Nicole, I've had a crush on you forever.

1:00:48🔗 Adam Too bad you're too young for me. Darn it.

1:00:52🔗 Drew 26, not that young.

1:00:54🔗 Caller I was wondering, I love Family Guy and I actually do really enjoy Kim Pals. I think it's actually pretty clever. Do you prefer doing sketch work or do you prefer the challenge of trying to put everything through your voice and not having to put on all sorts of makeup and stuff?

1:01:18🔗 Adam That's my Viancé. I have to say, obviously, I prefer acting to doing voice work in some way. That's what I'm trained to do. But voice-wise, I don't have to take a shower, I don't have to brush my hair, and voice stuff is so fun, it's the best job in the world.

1:01:37🔗 Drew It's easy.

1:01:38🔗 Adam It's so easy, it's starting. You're paid to do the easiest thing in the world. Not that this is easy, Dr. Drew, this is different. You need your brain to do this job.

1:01:47🔗 Drew No, I'm just saying.

1:01:48🔗 Adam But to do cartoons, it's really easy and fun. I love both. I know that's the lamest answer ever, Kent. Sorry.

1:01:55🔗 Drew You were going to make a distinction between sketch and improv?

1:02:00🔗 Adam Improv is ridiculously hard to me. I'm not a good improviser. Like I can hold my own. Like I can. I'm just not that funny. I'm just really I'm not a funny person. I'm entertaining.

1:02:10🔗 Drew We have the written stuff too.

1:02:12🔗 Adam And when I'm when I can tell a joke when it's written for me. But like unlike as we were talking about, Adam Corolla is by far in the years, you know, 13 years I've worked here, the quickest comedian I've ever worked with, like the fast him and Artie Lang. I have to say, like the fastest guys I've ever worked with. And that's a skill that I do not own. That is so unto itself. Like it's such a skill. Like I don't have that. So I'm not an improviser. Adam is I'm a good actor. Like I act well and I can do tell a joke. But it's two different jobs.

1:02:46🔗 Drew Interesting. All right. So you pick another call. Virgins, anal sex, What's your fiancee one? The al-sex one? Okay. He wants the anal sex one. Okay.

1:02:58🔗 Adam Wait, what?

1:02:59🔗 Drew Just saying.

1:02:59🔗 Adam No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not you. I'm confused about the question. Let's go. JR JR21. What?

1:03:05🔗 Caller Hey, what's going on?

1:03:07🔗 Caller Hi.

1:03:08🔗 Caller Here's my question. I've been with my girlfriend for about eight months now. And we decided to take the extra step. And I was like, hey, why don't we do this? And she said, okay.

1:03:20🔗 Drew So let me reinterpret that story. JR was just pounding on her for months about this. And finally, she went, all right, all right. We decided to take the extra step.

1:03:29🔗 Adam Well, can you say the word? Can you say, yeah, anal sex?

1:03:32🔗 Caller Oh, I just said, hey, can we do it the other way? And I was just trying to beat her on the bush and get her to say yes. And she finally did.

1:03:40🔗 Adam Pardon the pun.

1:03:41🔗 Drew That's what I'm saying. You wore her down until finally she capitulated. All right.

1:03:46🔗 Caller And then we did it. And I kind of passed out that night and I didn't wear a condom because I figured I can't get her pregnant anyway.

1:03:53🔗 Adam That's adorable, JR.

1:03:55🔗 Drew Yeah, she's very romantic.

1:03:57🔗 Adam What a romantic. You after in the butt and then passed out, aw.

1:04:01🔗 Caller Yeah, I'm a big sweetie. But well, I woke up in the morning, I kind of had a rash on my penis and I went to the doctor the next day and he told me that I had a yeast infection.

1:04:12🔗 Adam I'm no doctor, but you can't get a yeast infection from the from the V-line, can you?

1:04:17🔗 Drew You can get it from just about anything. But did they do a scraping?

1:04:20🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:04:21🔗 Drew They did a scraping. Did you see a dermatologist? You saw a regular doctor?

1:04:24🔗 Caller Yeah, I went to a dermatologist. They referred me to a dermatologist.

1:04:26🔗 Drew Okay. Well, that is a yeast infection. You probably, you probably.

1:04:30🔗 Caller I don't know. Is that from, can I get that every time I do that or is that?

1:04:33🔗 Adam It was probably from before, right? It was probably from ething her the right way.

1:04:37🔗 Drew It probably was before and probably just the irritation of all you were doing just got it more inflamed and more noticeable too. I bet you.

1:04:42🔗 Caller Oh, okay.

1:04:43🔗 Drew So it's basically the same thing you can get. Like it's almost equivalent to a jock itch. It's similar.

1:04:48🔗 Adam Because the girls hold their yeast infections in the VG.

1:04:51🔗 Drew They do for the most part and the men get a skin infection.

1:04:55🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:04:55🔗 Drew When he said, you know, do you say fungus or yeast?

1:04:58🔗 Caller It was just a yeast infection.

1:05:00🔗 Adam Yeah, that's from the VG.

1:05:01🔗 Caller They just gave me some pills to take and said, don't drink.

1:05:05🔗 Drew Now, wait a minute, they gave you flagellate, they give you a diflucan.

1:05:08🔗 Caller Okay, cool.

1:05:09🔗 Drew Hey, hey, hey, Jared, Jared. Did they give you flagellate, flagellate or did they give you a diflucan?

1:05:14🔗 Caller Diflucan.

1:05:15🔗 Drew Diflucan. All right, that's the yeast medicine.

1:05:17🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:05:17🔗 Drew So there you go.

1:05:17🔗 Adam You got it from the VG and then you just irritated it by going up the...

1:05:21🔗 Drew Good times. Did your girlfriend appreciate your...

1:05:25🔗 Caller It was fine.

1:05:26🔗 Drew I understand.

1:05:26🔗 Caller You just went for a yeast infection test and...

1:05:28🔗 Drew No, I know. It's just, it's your scan.

1:05:30🔗 Adam It's not a test, it's relaxed. It's just a yeast infection.

1:05:32🔗 Drew I'm just curious, is it something... It happens all the time, JR That whole maneuver you did, is it something she was appreciative of or she didn't like so much?

1:05:42🔗 Caller Was kind of in pain for a couple of days, but we were okay.

1:05:46🔗 Drew Oh, yeah. We were at Sir Walter Raleigh. The guy's awesome. My point has been, that's a part of the body that particularly women have trouble with like in their 70s and 80s. Stuff starts happening, it doesn't hold tightly any longer.

1:06:01🔗 Adam You're saying someone at 21 can mess up what happens in their 70s?

1:06:04🔗 Drew I'm saying.

1:06:05🔗 Adam No, no, seriously.

1:06:06🔗 Drew Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can get, they're already at risk for things like prolapse. I mean, the rectum can fall out and it can rip.

1:06:12🔗 Caller Fall out?

1:06:12🔗 Drew Yes, rectal prolapse, it kind of turns inside out.

1:06:15🔗 Adam Oh, Jesus.

1:06:15🔗 Caller What I say, what I say, what I say, I got feelings for you. Can I prolapse your anus?

1:06:22🔗 Adam So it can entirely disintegrate for lack of a better word.

1:06:25🔗 Drew It just tends to already, you get hemorrhoids, you get fissuring, you get peri-renal abscesses, and you get prolapse, and prolapse is not a pretty thing when that happens.

1:06:33🔗 Adam So you're saying unless it's something you need to do, shy away.

1:06:36🔗 Drew Unless you're really into, here's JR coercing, you know, beating his woman into submission, so she'll try this thing. She's in pain for days afterwards.

1:06:47🔗 Adam Let's say there's been girls that have done it like a couple times, like are they, are they screwed? Cause you know, I always quote you with the ecstasy and I always say like, if you've done it X amount of times, you're a subject.

1:06:56🔗 Drew You're in trouble.

1:06:57🔗 Adam No, you can't say that. You can't say that about anal sex. You don't know.

1:07:00🔗 Drew And clearly there's some people for whom this doesn't hurt. So I imagine it's probably not as problematic. I mean, your body tells you when you're doing something harmful to it, you keep pain. And some people really, really like this. Some women are just into it.

1:07:12🔗 Adam Yikes.

1:07:12🔗 Drew And whatever, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying, you know, if you're doing something that hurts and you've been had to coerce her into it and she was in pain for two days and had to take six baths four times. I mean, come on. What are we talking about here?

1:07:24🔗 Adam Um, wait, I love this.

1:07:26🔗 Caller This?

1:07:28🔗 Drew That?

1:07:29🔗 Adam Jason.

1:07:29🔗 Drew All right. Jason 23.

1:07:30🔗 Adam Jason for my...

1:07:32🔗 Drew Jason. Jason.

1:07:34🔗 Adam Sorry, Jason. Go. You know.

1:07:37🔗 Drew What's your fiance's name?

1:07:38🔗 Adam Jason.

1:07:39🔗 Drew Could this be he? Did you call in a while ago? No. Jason. Our caller who goes by Jason. Oh, he's gone.

1:07:45🔗 Adam But can we just say what he said?

1:07:46🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:07:47🔗 Adam Hooks up with girls and after sex loses interest. Really? That's startling.

1:07:53🔗 Drew That was a lot.

1:07:54🔗 Adam You and every other dude ever.

1:07:57🔗 Drew Well, let's take a little break. Let's do that. It's time for break. Nicole Sullivan is filling the immense shoes of Mr. Corolla. And they feel snug. They fit quite nicely.

1:08:05🔗 Adam Yeah. He's got a small.

1:08:07🔗 Drew Oh, I'm just saying. Yeah.

1:08:09🔗 Adam No, nothing. OK, I'm already reading the next. OK, go.

1:08:13🔗 Caller Hot Penis.

1:08:15🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:08:15🔗 Drew No, at least not the way he says it.

1:08:17🔗 Adam Oh, Adam.

1:08:18🔗 Drew Hot Properties. October 7th, ABC, 9.34. As you can catch him tonight on Comedy Central, he follows The Daily Show. Mad TV. Nicole was it was six seasons.

1:08:27🔗 Adam Seven seasons.

1:08:28🔗 Drew Mad TV. King of Queen. Kim Possible.

1:08:31🔗 Adam But Friday night's 9.30.

1:08:32🔗 Drew Friday night's 9.30. Starting October 7th. Hot Properties. And we'll be back with more Loveline at 1-800-LOVE-191 after this.

1:08:39🔗 Big Penis.

1:08:40🔗 Nicole Sullivan Thank you for calling Loveline. Your call will be answered in the order it seems interesting.

1:08:45🔗 Caller Call Loveline.

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1:08:55🔗 Caller Tuesdays and Wednesdays just got sexier.

1:09:05🔗 Drew All right, Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. You like prefer Nicole the Great, or the Great Nicole Sullivan, or Nicole Sullivan the Great?

1:09:14🔗 Adam It makes me sound old. So like-

1:09:17🔗 Drew Well, the Great Nicole Sullivan is ageless.

1:09:18🔗 Adam Did you call me Nikki the Cool?

1:09:19🔗 Drew Oh, did people call you Nikki?

1:09:21🔗 Adam Yeah, Nikki, like-

1:09:22🔗 Drew I didn't know that.

1:09:23🔗 Adam Yeah, my good friends call me that.

1:09:24🔗 Drew Oh my God, I'm calling Nikki now, it's fantastic.

1:09:25🔗 Adam Absolutely.

1:09:26🔗 Drew It's Nikki the Cool. Yeah, Nikki the Cool, Nicole Sullivan.

1:09:28🔗 Adam Now I sound like I'm in Greece.

1:09:31🔗 Drew Hot part.

1:09:31🔗 Adam Hot lightning.

1:09:32🔗 Drew This time he was talking to you.

1:09:33🔗 Adam Oh, into the mic?

1:09:34🔗 Drew Into the mic.

1:09:34🔗 Adam Into this thing right here?

1:09:36🔗 Drew I think when you call out orders to the guest, you ought to like do it over the air. So it's not so mysterious when we stop talking.

1:09:42🔗 Caller Nicole, could you please talk into the mic for me?

1:09:43🔗 Drew Thank you.

1:09:43🔗 Adam Was that over the air?

1:09:44🔗 Drew That's now in the air, you can tell it was.

1:09:45🔗 Adam Hey, thanks.

1:09:47🔗 Drew Thank you. I get nicer when I'm on the air, right? Oh man, do you? Otherwise, just sort of barking at us.

1:09:52🔗 Caller I tried to do it quick, I'm sorry.

1:09:53🔗 Drew Yeah, I know, but it stops us. It scares us.

1:09:58🔗 Adam I'm an actor, I'm used to like, when someone gives orders, I hop too.

1:10:01🔗 Drew Speaking of scared, that damn shuttle this morning, the space shuttle.

1:10:06🔗 Adam We didn't land yet today?

1:10:07🔗 Drew Yes, landed this morning. Oh God bless. Didn't you hear that, the sonic boom, it threw me out of bed.

1:10:12🔗 Adam No.

1:10:13🔗 Drew People don't live in, what? It was still up, I thought it was the neighbors banging on the door.

1:10:16🔗 Adam What time did it land?

1:10:17🔗 Drew Five o'clock this morning.

1:10:18🔗 Adam I was, I mean, I'm glad it landed, when I went to my dry cleaners, it looked like it landed when I was watching Santa and my dry cleaners, but I was, I was like, in my head, I was like, oh, they're all dying.

1:10:29🔗 Drew In fact.

1:10:30🔗 Adam I was like, oh, they're all dead. They're dying in a fiery, fiery death.

1:10:33🔗 Drew I got to tell you, I had a very strange experience. The sonic boom, it's a double boom. People that don't live in Southern California don't know it lands here in Southern California because it comes in, it gives a double boom that is so loud, it's bizarre. It sounds like a bomb going off.

1:10:45🔗 Adam Jason, did you wake up?

1:10:48🔗 Drew Well, different parts of the city heard it differently, but I was in an area where the house shook and my dogs freaked out. I was awake and I thought it's an earthquake and then I immediately thought it's a damn space shuttle and I thought that must mean they're landing. Thank God they're fine. I instantly went, that must be a good thing.

1:11:04🔗 Adam If I was a wife of one of the guy or husband of one of the people, because this time it was a woman commander, if I was whatever, I would honestly take a pill. The minute they left, I would take a pill like Sleeping Beauty or something. I would like, knock me out for two weeks. I do not want to be awake until they come home, because I would be nauseous and vomiting every day. A small piece of tile came off.

1:11:30🔗 Drew We're pulling a cloth off the tile today.

1:11:32🔗 Adam Yeah, we did a 360 degree rotation and we decided nothing. I'd be like, yeah, right. They're going to die a fiery death.

1:11:40🔗 Drew I know. All you would need is the tiniest little millimeter of heat to get through and melt everything. Let's go on to something else. This is Crystalis23.

1:11:50🔗 Adam Hi, Crystal.

1:11:51🔗 Caller Hello.

1:11:54🔗 Adam Hi.

1:11:54🔗 Caller Hi.

1:11:55🔗 Drew What's going on?

1:11:57🔗 Caller Not much.

1:11:58🔗 Drew All right. Well, you called us. All right, good.

1:12:02🔗 Caller I have a question for you.

1:12:04🔗 Drew I hope so.

1:12:04🔗 Caller I am 23 years old. I have been married to my husband for four years and never been able to experience an orgasm.

1:12:13🔗 Drew Ever with anybody?

1:12:15🔗 Caller With nobody, yeah, correct.

1:12:17🔗 Adam Crystal, can I ask a question?

1:12:19🔗 Caller What's that?

1:12:20🔗 Adam Are you stoned a little bit right now?

1:12:23🔗 Caller A little bit.

1:12:23🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:12:25🔗 Caller Actually, no, actually when you guys picked up, I was beginning.

1:12:29🔗 Adam Oh, you just took a hit just then. Awesome.

1:12:32🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:12:33🔗 Drew Well, that doesn't help the sexual functioning anyway. So that's one thing that for, I know people are arguing about that. For the most part, it works against.

1:12:39🔗 Adam But for the most part, okay, so have you never masturbated?

1:12:44🔗 Caller I have. The problem is, is I can get all the way up, all the way up to where I feel like I'm going to have an orgasm, and then it just goes away. I just cannot.

1:12:53🔗 Drew By the way, there's again, also in the male, there's no version of that where it's like, oh, almost, oh, no, no, no. There's no male version of that.

1:13:02🔗 Adam There's no male version of that? I know what she's talking about. I mean, I've been through that experience, but I also-

1:13:08🔗 Drew How do you overcome?

1:13:10🔗 Adam Well, no, I mean, that just happens one out of- Once in a while. Yeah, most of the time I can come, but-

1:13:15🔗 Drew Yeah, Crystal, is your-

1:13:16🔗 Caller It would be wonderful.

1:13:18🔗 Drew Does your husband perform oral sex?

1:13:21🔗 Caller Yeah, pretty much every single time.

1:13:23🔗 Drew Does he understand what he's doing? Can you direct him in ways that are optimal for you?

1:13:28🔗 Caller Yeah, yeah, he does a good job. It's just like I said, you know, I can get all the way up there, and most of the time, it's hard for me to become aroused. It's very difficult for me to become aroused, and once I do become aroused, it takes a very, very long time for me to start feeling the sensation.

1:13:46🔗 Adam Okay, let me ask a question, Crystal. I mean, seriously, I'm not being sarcastic. Do you watch porn at all?

1:13:54🔗 Caller Very seldom, but I have, yeah.

1:13:57🔗 Adam I honestly, as Dr. Sullivan right now, I recommend a glass and a half of wine and some porn.

1:14:03🔗 Drew Any special kind of porn?

1:14:05🔗 Adam Whatever turns around.

1:14:06🔗 Drew Doesn't have to have a story with it or anything?

1:14:08🔗 Adam I mean, for women, it's like, honestly, watching porn is hilarious because you're like, they would never do that. Like it's hard, you have to sort of erase your intelligence from porn because it's ridiculous.

1:14:18🔗 Drew And the guy's thinking, why isn't it ever like that?

1:14:21🔗 Adam But I say a little bit of wine and some porn and like just try to get into whatever's going on.

1:14:26🔗 Caller Yeah. So do I, the question I'm asking then is, is it physical? Is it something? Am I lacking testosterone? Is there something?

1:14:34🔗 Drew Are you menstruating normally?

1:14:36🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:14:36🔗 Drew Are you on a medication?

1:14:38🔗 Caller No, just birth control. Of course, I know that has a little bit to do with it.

1:14:43🔗 Drew The birth control could be a lot of the problem. The progesterone for most women, the progesterone component of the pill can kind of shut you down. For other women, it's the estrogen. It actually changes the level of sex hormone binding globulin. So it could be the birth control, but you might want to change some of that, the dosing or the type of pill you're using. And then beyond that, it's exploration, maybe technology. Nicole, help her.

1:15:07🔗 Adam Honestly, I think it's in your head, and I don't mean that in a negative way. Like you're stopping yourself, because I don't mean it as punishment. I mean, you've got to make yourself go to a different place. So wherever your head's been going, where you're trying to come, you have to go to a different place. Whether that means fantasy or porn or getting drunk or whatever. I'm serious.

1:15:30🔗 Drew Or relaxing or feeling into the feelings.

1:15:31🔗 Adam Whatever you need to do or imagining certain body, whatever you need to do, you just need to change your mindset, because clearly the way you've been doing it hasn't been working. But you're able to do it. I guarantee it, at some point you can.

1:15:43🔗 Drew Now, so this recent study showed that it is in fact genetics that determine whether women can have orgasm with just oral sex or with intercourse or be multi-orgasmic. And the multi-orgasmic women will have multiple, like 20 or 30 or 50 in a row with no refractoriness. What is refractoriness? They will just have one after the other, after the other, after the other, just that quickly, pow, pow, pow, pow, until they fatigue. That's a particular genetic makeup. And when you talk to those women that have that experience, and that's always during intercourse, those women tend not to like oral sex.

1:16:12🔗 Adam Always during intercourse.

1:16:13🔗 Drew They tend not to like oral sex. And those women, when they hear their peers talking about how difficult it is for them to have orgasm with intercourse, you talk to them and they'll say, well, my friends, are they lying? Or they just don't understand what they're doing. They haven't figured it out yet. When the reality is those are two genetic pools.

1:16:30🔗 Adam See, I always think that women say that I had like seven orgasms when having intercourse. I was like, yeah, right.

1:16:35🔗 Drew No, that's something people can do. Some people have 50. And some people, there's sort of multiple. Yeah, there's sort of the multiple, multiple group. Yeah, multiple, multiple. And then there's people that have sort of a couple sequentially, usually with intercourse. And they're those that can have orgasm with intercourse. Most of the time. And they're those that can have orgasm with intercourse like never. Which is about 50% of women. Most women only have it with some sort of direct stimulation like oral sex. Does that make sense? Does it fit with your experience?

1:17:02🔗 Adam It absolutely does.

1:17:03🔗 Drew There you go. What do you want to take next?

1:17:06🔗 Adam My fiance's looking at me so I'm like, I don't want to talk. We have good sex though, honey, right?

1:17:13🔗 Drew Your fiance is my best friend right now.

1:17:14🔗 Adam He's the best.

1:17:15🔗 Drew You brought Taco Bell. It's fantastic.

1:17:17🔗 Adam The crunchy and the, I have multiple, but it's- Sequential. I have multiple, but it's sort of mixed. Like it's sometimes sex, sometimes intercourse, sometimes the other.

1:17:28🔗 Drew That you're sort of in that middle category, right?

1:17:30🔗 Adam Right, but I can almost always come.

1:17:33🔗 Drew That's a middle category. That's sort of, you can have multiple sequentially, but you wouldn't have one for the moment, things started until you fatigued.

1:17:40🔗 Adam No, no, no, no.

1:17:40🔗 Drew That's a different person.

1:17:41🔗 Adam That's a different person.

1:17:42🔗 Drew A different thing. What do you think? Pick one.

1:17:44🔗 Adam What wants to shut here is GF. What is the GF?

1:17:46🔗 Caller Girlfriend.

1:17:48🔗 Adam Girlfriend. No, no. Another angel. That's right. Infection. Yeah.

1:17:56🔗 Drew This ecstasy. All right. Take an ecstasy call. This is Angela 25.

1:18:00🔗 Caller Hi.

1:18:01🔗 Drew Hey there.

1:18:04🔗 Caller When my boyfriend and I got together, we were both doing ecstasy quite regularly. And I was wondering what the long-term effects of that are as far as libido. Does that permanently affect your sex drive?

1:18:19🔗 Drew I have seen cases where it does and where there is like horrible shutdown. For the most part, that's not the case. For the most part, it sort of drops commensurate with the degree of depression that you're left with after the drug goes out of your system.

1:18:34🔗 Adam Dr. Drew, how many times do you say, cause this is what I always quote my friends, how many times do you say taking ecstasy until you're almost guaranteed to have some level of depression?

1:18:41🔗 Drew If you've had 20 or more hits of ecstasy, I put you in the sort of risk category.

1:18:46🔗 Caller Angela laughs.

1:18:47🔗 Drew If you're in the 50 or more, you're going to need to be on medication your whole life with all probability.

1:18:51🔗 Adam And what about, what's the difference between that and acid?

1:18:55🔗 Drew Acid, it's more in the 50 to 100 range before you start to see the real serious problems.

1:18:59🔗 Adam Oh really, so ecstasy is more?

1:19:00🔗 Drew Ecstasy is more brain damaging.

1:19:01🔗 Adam Because it goes right to the serotonin.

1:19:03🔗 Drew Yeah, cause it actually, we begin to understand, since you and I last talked, we've begun to understand how it happens. It actually, you know how brain cells use neurochemicals to communicate with one another? And they're like norepinephrine and epinephrine and dopamine and serotonin. And these chemicals are held in little vesicles at the tips of the brain cells and they're released, these little sort of bubbles are released into the space between the cells and they diffuse across and then cause a reaction in the adjacent cell. These vesicles tend to stop working when you use a lot of ecstasy or amphetamine. And the vesicle sort of doesn't function normally, it leaks, it doesn't form properly. So the chemical, the dopamine of the serotonin gets free inside the cell. It's not supposed to be there. It's supposed to be packaged. And free inside the cell, it forms the actual brain chemical itself, turns into a free radical and destroys the cell. So it's actually your own brain chemistry. It's not the direct effect of the amphetamine. That's what the current research suggests.

1:19:59🔗 Adam Like a white blood cell would attack its own...

1:20:02🔗 Drew It's more, that's a way of thinking about it. It's more, that the chemicals get loose in the cell, and then it loose in the cell, they convert into something else that's highly destructive.

1:20:11🔗 Caller And the amphetamine causes it.

1:20:12🔗 Caller So what kind of permanent depression does that cause?

1:20:16🔗 Drew The characteristic syndrome is memory problems and panic, agoraphobia, and depression. So it typically... What's that?

1:20:23🔗 Caller We both do have anxiety disorders, but mine has been diagnosed as...

1:20:33🔗 Drew Panic.

1:20:34🔗 Caller Let me see if I can PC, what is it? Post-traumatic stress syndrome.

1:20:38🔗 Drew All right.

1:20:38🔗 Adam What was your trauma?

1:20:40🔗 Caller I was in a severely abusive relationship.

1:20:44🔗 Drew I think you better tell your doctor about the ecstasy and or see a doctor who's used to dealing with this. Cause let me tell you the syndrome that I typically see with ecstasy. Somebody's going out all the time, doing ecstasy all the time, do it, do it, do it. Then all of a sudden they don't want to go out so much. And then all of a sudden they're kind of isolating. And then all of a sudden they're getting kind of anxious and preoccupied. And then all of a sudden they get panic attacks when they go outside. And then all of a sudden they get profoundly depressed. That's the syndrome. And that depression is often lifelong. Not as severe as when it first comes on, but often needs long term management.

1:21:16🔗 Adam Is that you Angela? Did you describe you?

1:21:18🔗 Caller That sounds like both of us. But the thing is a lot of the medication does cause like Zoloft or the Prozac. It does cause a lower libido.

1:21:28🔗 Drew Absolutely. So you want to, if possible, a good drug for this is called the Serizone because it's not even, it's a direct, we call it direct agonist, not a serotonin reuptake inhibitor. So Serizone is less likely to cause the sexual dysfunction, Remeron and Welbutrin. Again, Welbutrin is another good one.

1:21:45🔗 Adam I've been on Welbutrin for about six years. And honestly, as far as I can tell, no honey.

1:21:51🔗 Drew No sexual side effects. In fact, some people get an enhancement with Welbutrin.

1:21:54🔗 Adam Yeah. Prozac was a bit of a bummer.

1:21:56🔗 Drew Shut down.

1:21:57🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:21:58🔗 Drew And you had a depression problem?

1:21:59🔗 Adam Yes, since I was 21.

1:22:01🔗 Drew And you had mentioned, I don't know if you want to talk about this in the air and out.

1:22:03🔗 Adam No, no, it's fine.

1:22:04🔗 Drew You came from a family of origin with a very interesting, very rich and colorful history, heritage.

1:22:08🔗 Adam Very colorful, you know, everyone's a good person in my family, but just a lot of, you know, no one hit anyone. No one, you know, just my parents didn't get along and there was some cheating and a lot of stress.

1:22:21🔗 Drew And for a kid, it's stressful.

1:22:22🔗 Adam Very, very stressful. And I think at the end of the day, my mom suffered from depression her entire life and just undiagnosed.

1:22:28🔗 Drew Maybe it's a genetic thing for you.

1:22:29🔗 Adam And so, you know, my sister and I both sort of battle it. And, you know, at 21, I realized it. Like I remember going to a psychiatrist and I was so depressed, but you know, I didn't know what it was. And I remember looking in the office and there was a People magazine about, shoot, I forget who it was, but some actor who was like battling depression. And I, of course, I'm like, oh my God. And I opened it and read it and said the signs of depression, you only want to hear about other people who are depressed. And the only thing you want to read is about other people being depressed. And I remember running up to that People magazine and opening it. I was like, oh, that's clearly me. And I've tried to go off antidepressants three different times and all three times, not so much.

1:23:07🔗 Drew Somewhere between 50 and maybe 60 or 70 percent of people who need antidepressants will have recurrences. So there's a school of thought generally that all things been equal to longer term management is probably the way to go.

1:23:18🔗 Adam Yeah. I mean, I've given I would love to not be on it. Like I certainly, you know, but at the same time, I'm not ashamed to be on them. And I know that I've tried three different times and it doesn't work for the sake of educating people.

1:23:28🔗 Drew How did it manifest in you, the depression?

1:23:30🔗 Adam Honestly, I thought about killing myself every second of the day.

1:23:34🔗 Drew What would other people have noticed about you? Were you irritable or snippy or laid-by?

1:23:39🔗 Adam Just, no, just like to myself and everything, everything was huge. Everything was unmanageable. Like laundry was unmanageable. A simple problem at the office, like I was working in an office at the time, a simple problem with a coworker was unmanageable.

1:23:55🔗 Drew The two classic experiences of depression, feeling overwhelmed.

1:23:58🔗 Adam Overwhelmed with everything.

1:23:59🔗 Drew And irritable.

1:24:00🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:24:00🔗 Drew Those are the two. And people miss that.

1:24:02🔗 Adam And suicidal.

1:24:02🔗 Drew And suicidal is a good clue there. But sometimes you may not have that.

1:24:06🔗 Adam But not like not wanting to kill myself. Just everything was like, forget it. That's the best way I can describe it. Like I would say, I just killed myself. But everything was, nevermind. Nevermind.

1:24:15🔗 Drew Forget it. When I treat drug addicts and alcoholics, I call it the F-its. The F-its?

1:24:20🔗 Adam Oh yeah, F-it.

1:24:20🔗 Drew Just F-it.

1:24:21🔗 Adam That was every thought I had, F-it.

1:24:23🔗 Drew Yeah. And that's when alcoholics addicts relapse. When they get that. And that's usually depression. So here we go. We're going to take another break. It's an interesting show tonight. I hope you all enjoy it. I certainly am because the great Nicole Sullivan, Nicky the Great, Nicky the Great. We decide to get it cool. They get it cool. Has joined us tonight. You know her from MADD TV. You will know her in the fall, October 7th on Hot Properties, ABC 930 Fridays. And we've got Brittany. Nicole's pointing anxiously at Brittany's call. I love it. Why don't you read it? Yeah.

1:24:50🔗 Adam Wants to have a lesbian experience, but her family won't approve. What do you it sounds like a bad penthouse.

1:24:55🔗 Drew What? It's like a team beat. What to do? What to do?

1:24:58🔗 Adam I love it, Brittany.

1:24:59🔗 Drew Nicole Sullivan, Dr. Drew, Adam will be back next week and we'll be back with more Loveline and Brittany after this.

1:25:05🔗 Adam Loveline will be right back.

1:25:22🔗 Drew It's Loveline, Nicole Sullivan. Again, I'll remind those of you listening in the East, Discovery Health Channel, Midnight, Strictly Sex. Please tune in. It's an interesting show this week. And Nicole, Hot Property. No, I wish that were true. Nicole, Hot Property is October 7th, Fridays, 9.30 AEBC. And you know her from MADtv. And we are going to know Brittany, who's 17.

1:25:43🔗 Adam Brittany.

1:25:46🔗 Drew Hey there, what's up?

1:25:48🔗 Nicole Sullivan Well, I think, I don't know, I have a really good friend, and I think that I like her more, and I want to like have a relationship with her.

1:25:56🔗 Drew Do you like like like, or do you like like?

1:25:59🔗 Nicole Sullivan Shut up. No, yeah, I think I really like her like sexually, and I want to have a relationship with her, but my parents, my dad's a pastor, and really strict religious family.

1:26:09🔗 Drew Did they, do you feel that he was abusive to you? I mean, is there any kind of payback in this?

1:26:17🔗 Nicole Sullivan That's what I'm trying to figure out, because pastor kids always rebel and stuff, and I don't want to hurt her, and just do this because I want to piss him off, but I think that I really like her.

1:26:28🔗 Adam It doesn't sound to me like he did anything to her. It sounds like she's a legitimate cute little lesbian, which I think is awesome.

1:26:40🔗 Drew But the one thing that troubles me is that she is so concerned about her family in the sense that she's going to make sure they find out. And if you really were just concerned and weren't rebelling and weren't giving any payback, you do it secretly and that would be that. I understand you feel conflicted and bad about it because your family you know would disapprove, but you would even be more careful to hide it from them then.

1:27:02🔗 Nicole Sullivan Well, nobody knows right now. My friend doesn't even know. Like I haven't said anything to her. So that's a whole other story because I'm scared about that.

1:27:11🔗 Adam But I think she's going one step beyond what you're saying, which is like I could like fool around with my girlfriend and she's got like many steps to deal with, which is like A is my friend going to want to fool around me and then B, but I think she's realizing that this may be her lifestyle if for just now, it may be her lifestyle, which means her parents are going to find out.

1:27:30🔗 Drew Is that it, Brittany?

1:27:30🔗 Adam So she's freaking out a little bit.

1:27:31🔗 Nicole Sullivan Yeah, kind of.

1:27:33🔗 Drew So what is it you're looking for tonight? How can we help?

1:27:36🔗 Nicole Sullivan Well, I guess like I advise maybe to tell them because like, like they don't believe in like kissing before marriage. And they're just so incredibly strict about stuff like that.

1:27:45🔗 Adam Why are you going to tell them? Just kiss her.

1:27:47🔗 Nicole Sullivan Well, like we, I don't know, like when we are drunk, we have, but I don't know.

1:27:53🔗 Adam Adorable.

1:27:55🔗 Nicole Sullivan I don't know if it was just because she was drunk and not because like she really likes me.

1:27:58🔗 Adam Worry about, worry about her. Don't worry about your dad. Your dad's not going to know. We, everyone hides stuff from you. You always hide kissing from your dad. Your dad doesn't want to know you kiss. No dad wants to know you kiss anybody right now. Just worry about like whether or not you like her and she likes you or no Dr. Drew's frowning.

1:28:13🔗 Drew Shoot, I'm wrong. I'm cringing as a dad just generally. Although I know every dad also much prefers this over what the guys would put her through. So it's like, the good news is.

1:28:25🔗 Adam You wouldn't want to know like your 17 year old's kissing someone randomly. You don't want to know that.

1:28:28🔗 Drew Whether drinking and kissing.

1:28:30🔗 Adam Sure, why not? It just makes you more.

1:28:32🔗 Nicole Sullivan How many all 17 year olds drink?

1:28:35🔗 Adam Exactly.

1:28:36🔗 Drew I don't know. That's a mistake. That's a mistake to sort of put it out as that. Cause it's, how many other, how many other illegal acts do you just do? And it's no big deal.

1:28:45🔗 Adam Only, I honestly think drinking is it stand, drinking and smoking pot.

1:28:49🔗 Drew Spading, driving fast.

1:28:51🔗 Adam Okay, speeding. He's right, he's right.

1:28:53🔗 Drew And having sex underage people.

1:28:54🔗 Adam Okay, that's right.

1:28:56🔗 Drew But, but the point is all those things you'd sort of try to kind of, you know, curtail, put it in to. And the thing about when you're on drugs, you're on drugs, you do things you wouldn't. People go, there's something I haven't heard as much of lately, but we used to hear all the time was, well, you know, I could let out my true feelings when I'm drunk, or my real feelings came out when I was on pot. No, no, you're on drugs. Your brain is working totally differently.

1:29:17🔗 Adam You act like an idiot on drugs, period.

1:29:18🔗 Drew You do things differently. You have different judgment, different experience because you are on drugs.

1:29:23🔗 Adam How about this, Brittany, because you already sort of got drunk and made out a couple of times. How about the next time, if you want to kiss her, you make sure neither of you have been drinking or anything else?

1:29:33🔗 Nicole Sullivan Well, last time I wasn't drinking and she was, but I don't know.

1:29:36🔗 Caller What if she doesn't like it?

1:29:38🔗 Adam I don't want to wear it out. How about next time neither of you are doing anything and then you test it out that way?

1:29:44🔗 Drew Right. You're not going to wear it out. She's already made out with you, number one. Then number two, I really think you need to examine what you're up to here. You want a relationship with her?

1:29:53🔗 Nicole Sullivan Well, that's what I would want.

1:29:55🔗 Drew That's what you want. Do you believe you were a lesbian?

1:29:59🔗 Nicole Sullivan I think this is the only person I've ever been attracted to. I've never had a boyfriend, never been attracted to boys.

1:30:05🔗 Drew Oh, interesting.

1:30:07🔗 Adam I'm buying it.

1:30:08🔗 Caller I'm buying it.

1:30:09🔗 Drew I'm in. I'm in. I'm just trying to figure out how you manage this and still remain healthy and honest. At what point do you tell your family? I think the bottom line is that just my general advice is if you are homosexual, whether it's homosexual male or female, and you know your family is going to have a very negative response, the one thing you want to do is build a support network. Generally speaking, we tell people, make sure also your way at college or out of home or something. If by the way, you're dependent on them financially and you know they're going to withdraw financial support, you don't have to tell people until you finish the stuff. But again, make sure you have a network of peers around who've been through this and who can support you when the S hits the fan. Let's take this quick one from Jacqueline, who's 21, Jacqueline.

1:30:56🔗 Nicole Sullivan Hi, how are you?

1:30:57🔗 Drew Good.

1:30:58🔗 Nicole Sullivan Great. I had a question. My boyfriend actually went into the doctor a few weeks ago and because he was complaining of a circular problem, he's actually a little bit larger than usual.

1:31:13🔗 Drew He had some pain too, right?

1:31:15🔗 Nicole Sullivan Yeah, and they told him he had an E coli infection.

1:31:19🔗 Drew Right, we had some called, that's called Epididymitis, very common, very common.

1:31:24🔗 Nicole Sullivan Oh, it's very common? Okay, because you couldn't really explain it to me and I'm just like, well, what is it?

1:31:29🔗 Drew It's Epididymitis, it's an inflammation and sometimes an infection of the Epididymis, which is sort of a processing plant that sits on top of the testy. Bacteria tracks down there.

1:31:38🔗 Adam Right now Dr. Drew is using his hands, he just can't see it.

1:31:40🔗 Drew I'll show you a picture, I'm going to show Nicole a picture, it's so gross.

1:31:43🔗 Adam He's literally making balls with his hands.

1:31:45🔗 Drew I was, I'm going to show you a picture, literally showing you pictures. Literally.

1:31:49🔗 Adam Literally.

1:31:50🔗 Drew What's that?

1:31:51🔗 Nicole Sullivan In the testicle?

1:31:52🔗 Drew No, it's on top of the testicle, I'm going to show Nicole here.

1:31:56🔗 Adam I'm going to watch on behalf of you Jacqueline.

1:31:57🔗 Drew The Epididymis is this thing sitting on top here, is that a bundle of noodles up there? This is an Epididymis here, see this crazy thing? Things can track down from the urethra and stuff that gets in the urethra are things that are around the urogenital tract, things that cause urine infections, things that are around the anus and like UTIs. Yeah, and E coli is a common cause of urinary tract infection, it's a common bacteria in that area. And then kind of track on up, it tracks up here, where are we? Tracks up here.

1:32:23🔗 Nicole Sullivan Jacqueline, I'm watching this for you. You've been doing that, right?

1:32:26🔗 Drew Tracks up here, gets around here.

1:32:27🔗 Adam No, it's kind of gross, but I'm watching it on like a medical level.

1:32:30🔗 Drew I'm showing you an anatomy textbook here.

1:32:32🔗 Adam Right.

1:32:33🔗 Drew All right, so he just takes antibiotics or anti-inflammatory. Sometimes they're non-infectious.

1:32:36🔗 Adam So basically, it's no worse than like a UTI for example.

1:32:38🔗 Drew Yeah, it's a little more difficult to clear up, but it's no more meaningful.

1:32:41🔗 Adam But it doesn't mean like anyone did anything bad. It just means like there's dirt somewhere in the air system.

1:32:45🔗 Drew One of those things means they're sexually active.

1:32:46🔗 Adam Jacqueline, nothing went wrong.

1:32:47🔗 Drew Nicole, we got to take another break. Nikki the cool will be back in just a moment. What's so funny over there? Anderson? I was being racist. Well, surprise. How do we sound, Anderson? You guys sounded great. I loved it. I loved the vagina monologues compared to Adam's penis monologues. It's nice, isn't it? Very nice. Yeah. Nikki The Cool, Nicole Sullivan from MAD-TV. Her new show Hot Properties debuts October 7th at 7.30. Beg your pardon, 9.30 Fridays, ABC. So you're still on King of Queens?

1:33:41🔗 Adam No.

1:33:41🔗 Drew That's over.

1:33:42🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:33:42🔗 Drew But I'm sure reruns and syndications.

1:33:44🔗 Adam King of Queens is still on, yes.

1:33:45🔗 Drew But I mean, you're-

1:33:47🔗 Adam Believe it or not, they're going on without me.

1:33:49🔗 Drew But I mean, there must be reruns of stuff you were on. Yeah, yeah.

1:33:51🔗 Adam But mostly the MAD-TV reruns.

1:33:53🔗 Drew Which is again, just everywhere now on Comedy Central. Well, Nicole, it's been way too long this time. Come back sooner, please.

1:33:59🔗 Adam I know, it's been a long time.

1:34:00🔗 Drew It's been too long. You've been on the show how many times now, would you say?

1:34:02🔗 Adam I would say this is like my seventh.

1:34:04🔗 Drew Seventh time.

1:34:04🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:34:05🔗 Drew Dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear friend of the show.

1:34:07🔗 Adam Thanks everyone for calling in.

1:34:09🔗 Drew That's right.

1:34:10🔗 Adam And just so everyone knows, I had listened to the show just like everyone else and I'm an old fart. And it's so important to listen to Dr. Drew because he's the smartest guy ever.

1:34:19🔗 Drew Very kind. My old fart fans, it's great. All right, Nicole, thank you very much. And again, Adam's coming back probably on next week for the end of the week. We have Phyllan Gaskard, Jimmy Kimmel coming on later in the week.

1:34:28🔗 Adam I've heard of him.

1:34:31🔗 Drew I hear bringing Sarah.

1:34:32🔗 Adam Okay, they're the cutest, funniest couple ever.

1:34:35🔗 Drew Yeah, so that'll be a great show too. So thanks, Nicole, for joining us. And in the meantime, this is Dr. Drew on behalf of Adam Corolla saying mahalo.

1:34:42🔗 Adam You after in the butt and then passed out.

1:34:45🔗 Caller Yeah, I'm a big sweetie.

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