0:57🔗VoiceoverLoveline is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content. Listener discretion is advised. This is Loveline, with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.
1:20🔗AdamHey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician and a digit-minute spevlet.
1:41🔗AdamWe laugh about how late I get to the job, which is about, well, the show starts at 10, and I walked in at 9.52 tonight, and Andrew wanted to know why I was so early.
1:56🔗AdamYou thought it spent the night here or something, right?
1:59🔗DrewI know now your brain is not working right, because you're all hungover, so you had to leave after time. Right. I noticed you seemed a little slow on the draw, but our guests actually do get here later than I do often times. There we go.
2:19🔗AdamAnd DJ only distracts me. DJ, you know, I don't know if you even get to call him DJ. I think DJ Qualls, you have to call him. You know him most notably from road trip. I know him from the Corps. Not from the movie, The Corps, just I really feel like I know him.
2:39🔗AdamYeah. And also he's in Hustle and Flow, which is this new movie coming out. Anyone who watches MTV or Basic Cable at all has seen a million commercials for it. And I hear a little early Oscar buzzer even talk about with like, I don't know, Ludacris or some of the other actors, maybe even DJ Qualls. So it's supposed to be a really good movie. He'll be in here in a second. We'll talk to him about that. A couple of things. First off, flew out to Vegas to go to a bachelor party. Yesterday, me and Jimmy flew out in the afternoon and I just flew back tonight, later afternoon.
3:27🔗AdamI know, but you're not in a casino. You're up in a suite and they got the double doors open and people are smoking and everything. The wind just sort of hot wind blowing in. And when you're getting pelted by hot wind, it doesn't feel like 445 in the morning.
4:09🔗DrewI mean, I was like, I should set up a separate room just where I detox you guys next door to the suite.
4:15🔗AdamI was like, I'm just I'm just drinking a night, which was like I wasn't participating. It's like I'm on the wagon.
4:21🔗DrewKind of like the professional football player physicians do. You know, just get the IVs going, the oxygen tanks, send you guys back in.
4:27🔗AdamCould have used it. So, you know, I went to bed about 530 and I cut out early. I mean, I left the party about 5 and went back and crashed. You know what I love about me? I go back to my hotel room. That's about 445. I still got to watch an hour TV. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I go to bed about six.
4:47🔗AdamIt's the weird like I don't care. If I get home at 11 o'clock at night, I'll watch an hour TV and go to bed. If I come home at 530 in the morning, stinking drunk, I'll watch an hour TV and then go to bed. And when I come home at 530, I'm not drunk anymore. It's just nuts. I got to watch an hour TV and then I'm going to bed.
5:00🔗DrewI wonder how was it you can always recite those Tommy Vuk commercials word for word.
5:16🔗AdamYou see them bitches? That's a bitch off my toy. That's my toy. Then my toys too. That Ferrari, you're too chicken. You're too spineless. You're too weak to buy one. You're too scared. Scared to make money. Scared to scare you to make money. But I think he's in jail now. But the point is, is had a good time in Vegas. Flew Southwest out. You know what?
5:42🔗DrewYou were sitting next to Jimmy Lee's. You weren't sitting next to the guy in the cutoffs.
5:44🔗AdamNo. Oh no. You don't get to sit next to who you want to sit next to on Southwest.
5:49🔗DrewYou were in round four or whatever there.
5:53🔗DrewYeah, yeah. Well, forget the first batch. There's different batches.
5:56🔗AdamOh yeah. But look, here's the thing about... Let me explain something about Southwest. The people that fly Southwest are people that are outraged when you say $65 round trip to Vegas. They're like, this is a slap in the face. You want to be one of the Rothschilds? How dare you? I'll walk. You know what I mean? These are people that thinks it's outrageous to get into triple digits for a round trip ticket anywhere in the country. These are also people. They're like my family. If the flight left at noon, they would get there at 9.45. Because they're poor people whose time is worth nothing. They understand? They're poor people who say, I'd rather pay $50 and go southwest than pay $80 and just get a signed seat, and show up like a human being a half hour before the plane left. So everyone who gets there is before you, because I sure as F am not going to Burbank Airport two hours before the flight leaves.
6:54🔗AdamEspecially when there's a kind of math, which is you can get to Vegas in three and a half hours in automobiles if you do it during the right time of the day, which means the clock is ticking from the time you leave the house to the airport to the time you pull up to the hard rock.
7:12🔗AdamYou get to the airport two hours later, you should just climb out of your car and just stay in your car and keep going to Vegas.
7:19🔗DrewI totally agree. And the way McCarran is now. Oh, you're spending three hours there.
7:25🔗AdamVegas, Vegas, McCarran Airport at Vegas, the line on a Sunday afternoon for Southwest. Oh, forget it. Well, here's the comedy. Southwest is gate C.
7:38🔗AdamSo I'm like, wait a minute, I'm not taking Southwest home. I'm taking United home. So I'm like, oh, gate D United. So I'm I'm walking up and I see Southwest and I see, you know, the Seagate and the line is going on. I'm like, suckers. I keep walking. It's the exact same line on the other side of that little peninsula, right? But even a little further back.
8:06🔗AdamI thought about it and I thought maybe. Yeah, I'm out of my mind because I didn't move. I didn't remove my scissors from my toiletry bag where the joint was. You know, that's what I should have done.
8:18🔗DrewWhy don't you just throw a joint? Is that important? Do you just toss it out?
8:40🔗AdamI got friends who smoke pot, number one, and I like to entertain. And that's why I think they come over. And number two, this guy. So I was walking out of the party last night and about five in the morning, and this guy is clearly just a drug dealer, just hands me this huge joint.
8:57🔗DrewWho knows what's in that? It's like your mom.
8:59🔗AdamWell, look, it's at least pot. Maybe it's angel dust or something. I get lucky.
9:04🔗AdamI know what you're saying. The point is that I went, wow, this incredible smelling joint. So I, you know, throw it in my pocket and I walked, walked back to my room. And then this morning, you know, then I just watched a Discovery Channel for an hour, went to sleep. And then I get up this morning, this is pristine doobie sitting on my, my bathroom counter. And I think, now what do I do? Cause I'm weird. Like, I like, I'll have to smoke this whole joint right now. I'm not just going to throw it away.
9:30🔗DrewCause that would have satisfied all your weird neuroticisms.
9:33🔗AdamRight. So I should have eaten it, but I was like, I'm not throwing this away. And then I thought, I like to smoke some weed once in a while, but certainly everyone I know comes over likes to smoke weed. I want to have a good, this is a good joint. And it was a gift. You understand? It means something. Yes. A drug addict gave it to me, who I'd never met before.
9:49🔗DrewA kilo of heroin, would that have been okay?
9:50🔗AdamThat would have been a gift for my Colombian friends. So the point is, is I said, all right, what do I do with this joint? And then I thought, I'm an adult. I pay my taxes. I don't have a criminal record.
10:02🔗DrewYou're going down a dangerous path here.
10:04🔗AdamI know, but I'm not a criminal. I'm not doing anything. I'm going home to go to work to pay more goddamn taxes. I have a joint. I can be responsible. Is it huge difference between stopping the duty-free shop and buying a bottle of tequila that I could happily bring home? Little Cuervo 1800, you know what I mean?
10:21🔗AdamAll right, so the point is, is I say, all right, I'm going to take this joint. And then I start thinking, where do I put it? So first I think Keister, you know, that's my first plan and everything. And I think, put it in my sock or something. I think, yeah, I'll just put it, I'll just put it in my medicine cap, you know, my toiletry bag. I'll just put it in there because, well, why not? And I put it in a little vitamin thing, like a little multivitamin thing, drop it in there, screw it shut. And then I realize-
10:50🔗AdamI think about the dogs. I did see a dog in the airport. The next thing I think about is I got scissors and I got stopped on the way in for the scissors. But the scissors got a little round thing on the end of them, so they let me have them. But they can't tell during the x-ray.
11:06🔗AdamThey're going to take all that out. So I just say, I f it. I throw it in there. Because I say, what's he going to do? He's not going to open the vitamin pack and start rolling that stuff out.
11:16🔗DrewUnless you see something on the video, on the x-ray.
11:19🔗AdamI don't know. So, sure enough, I'm going through the thing. First off, there's 7,000 people in front of me. I mean, you're leaving Vegas.
11:28🔗AdamWhat about the bullet train? They've been working on the goddamn bullet train since I was a sophomore in high school. Yes, the bullet train is going to go LA to Vegas. It's going to be an hour and 10 minutes gambling and boozing. It's awesome. Never gets built. Anyway, pull me aside. Pull the bag aside. Guy, now he's opening the kit and he's thrashing through the kit. Of course, he can't find the scissors. Even though they're just, you know, I just threw them in there. There's just one bit, you know, throwing stuff out. Actually grabs the thing with the with the joint in it, shaking that around, sets that down, pulling other stuff out, pulls the scissors out, puts the whole thing back and I'm on my way. Yeah.
12:42🔗AdamI don't give a rat's ass. I'm not doing anything wrong.
12:46🔗DrewThe rest of us have like emotions that sort of regulate and determine our help us in making judgments. We think, oh, that's scary. Oh, that makes me feel bad. Feelings. Let's slow it down for a minute. Feelings. They're called feelings.
13:00🔗DrewYou sort of feel happy or sad. I know you've had some of those once in a while.
13:04🔗AdamWell, look, I had a feeling of satisfaction when I went through McCarran with a joint today, if that's what you're talking about. No, I'll tell you what really, here really the thought process is for me. I think, oh, I'm going to have to throw the joint away. Oh, I'm going to have to shove it up my ass. Oh, maybe I should eat it. And then, oh, what the hell am I doing? What planet am I from? Am I some time traveler from the future who's been put back to be driven insane by these archaic laws? Who gives a rat's ass? And I'm standing up for my dignity. I'm just, I'm going, you know what, if I want a joint, I'm going to the airport and if Infinity Broadcasting has a mandatory sexual harassment seminar, I'm not going. And if they fire me, they fire me. That's the way it is. Everyone, please stand up. Stand up. Take a stand, everybody. You're not a criminal. You're not a terrorist. Do we have to be treated like criminals? Do you know what I mean? Should we always be on the run? Everyone in LA, should we be driving with our head on a swivel looking out for cops because we're going four miles over the goddamn speed limit or roll through a four way stop sign at four in the morning when there's no traffic on the road? We're not criminals. We didn't do anything wrong. I gotta believe, and this country has a higher per capital inmate population than any other place in the world. Why are we so, no wonder people are freaked out. I don't want to be freaked out. I pay too much in taxes to be freaked out. I don't commit enough crime to be freaked out. All I do is pay a S load in taxes and commit no crimes. I'm not going to walk around freaked out. You know what I mean?
14:41🔗AdamCan everyone just be that way? Here's how I want to be freaked out, the criminals. They don't seem to be freaked out. They got no problems. They're in their underpants. They got softball bats four in the morning. He's dragging four beers, hanging on one of those six pack bands and he's arguing with the cop and won't put the bat down. He's got no problems. Me, I'm going to have a heart attack because I'm trying to go through the airport with a roach. I'm not a criminal.
15:35🔗AdamNo, you know what there was? They're replacing peanuts now with the soy beans, soy bean, which is, in terms of just sort of the cosmic level, going from the only redeeming thing about that horrifying Fiesta Mix was the two and a half peanuts you could salvage from that essential. If they just aborted a fetus into a foil sack and put three peanuts in it, I would rather have it than the two peanut and the Fiesta Mix. That's the only thing you could salvage was the two and a half peanuts that came in the Fiesta Mix. Now you get nothing. You get a soy based bean. And in my whole, yours is my whole thing on the airplane. Is there such a thing as Fiesta Mix on the ground? Is there a vending machine that sells Fiesta Mix? Have you ever seen anyone go into a liquor store? Come on, give me some Fiesta Mix.
16:25🔗AdamYeah, just a little. Just give me the little one ounce packet of Fiesta Mix. Yeah, generic stuff. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't want anything I recognize. Yeah, the little super mini pretzels that have as much salt in them as a giant pretzel. That's why, somehow they've taken the huge giant ballpark pretzel, they get all the sodium in that and they squeeze it into one the size of a nickel. Yeah, like I want that ass. Does anyone ever throw a party and say, we need more fiesta mix, we're out of fiesta mix? No, they go to the liquor store, they go to the, they eat Snickers bars, they eat M&M's, they eat peanuts, they eat walnuts, they eat beer nuts. Yes, they eat a little smoked little blue diamond smoked. They eat normal food.
17:14🔗AdamDid you get that poor salty, crappy siesta? If he has to make sense. Like everyone is just some horrible holding tank, you know, in some Tijuana prison. And everyone just busts it open. They spread it out on their little table and pathetically pick out what's edible. There's like four things in there that can eat two of them. There's just weird dusty salty mix. It was, I know that stuff must be free because it just must be surplus from the military or from women's prisons or something. But could they just go ahead? Here's the deal. I'm what you call a high roller. Go ahead and tack 46 cents onto my ticket. Go ahead. Give me a sack of Doritos. You know what? Round up to a buck because you know that's the way I do it. I play fast and loose, baby. Fast and loose. I'll pay an extra 36 cents to have my dignity 30,000 feet above the ground. Awesome.
18:02🔗DrewAll right. Let's talk to Fiona. We've left off.
18:58🔗Yeah. One of the biggest ones is Harry Potter.
19:01🔗DrewIs there anything about the any sort of character to these women that are so interested in this? So are they goth or can you tell who they are?
19:09🔗The young ones are crazy. They run up to the booth screaming and jumping around. It is going insane, insane, insane. The older ones are a lot calmer about it.
19:22🔗AdamWho's the second and third biggest characters you draw?
19:27🔗Well, Gundam was always big. Inuyasha, Fumilo Alchemist, those are all big.
19:33🔗AdamHold on. Calling all nerds. Who were you talking about?
19:47🔗AdamYeah, I know, but people get a kick out of seeing recognizable faces being corn holed. Who are some other recognizable faces we might see corn holed?
19:54🔗Those are really recognizable faces. Those are really recognizable series.
20:47🔗AdamAnd the kind of stuff you draw is, while not a photograph, obviously in ways much more graphic. I mean, just you can get in the detail. You can really obviously can get them to do things that their agents wouldn't agree to in real life.
21:02🔗Things that aren't like possible by the laws of physics.
21:05🔗AdamYeah. And speaking of laws, isn't it? Isn't Corn on the Cob?
21:17🔗That's one. There was an anime, a pornographic guy on guy anime made years ago that had Corn on the Cob. And so now a lot of people who were into it asked for Corn on the Cob.
21:28🔗AdamAnd as far as the legal part goes, you know, like the company that makes Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter.
21:40🔗No. It's legal in Japan and you can import these from Japan. Even though it's not legal in America, the anime conventions sell Japanese things and so they just kind of don't care.
21:53🔗AdamIt's not legal because of copyright problems. Right.
21:56🔗It's legal in Japan. Japan has weird copyright.
22:27🔗AdamHold-bation. We're going to take a quick break. DJ Qualls is here from Hustle and Flow. And we'll be right back after this. Ready for something new? Try Durex tingling condoms. There's sex, and then there's Durex.
23:02🔗I want to sleep with common people like you. Sean and Allie.
23:08🔗AdamWe want to know. Hey, everybody. It's Love Line. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, Yeah. DJ Qualls is here. Hustle and Flow.
23:57🔗AdamYeah. We don't like the way your ass smells.
23:59🔗DJ QuallsDo you remember thinking I was black the first time I came on the show? That's what you said. The first thing you said to me was, I thought you were black.
24:05🔗AdamProbably thought that. Whenever you hear the DJ, you got into the Qualls thing and then, yeah, yeah. But anyway, I'm over that now. This time I knew what to expect. We, the movie, I've been hearing some pretty, well first of all, they've been pumping the hell out of it on MTV and every other basic cable station, but there's been some pretty good early reviews and stuff. I realize I was watching entertainment tonight on like Friday and they're talking about a little Oscar, little early Oscar buzz.
24:35🔗DJ QuallsYeah, people start crapping on it probably right after it comes out because that normally happens. It was basically a movie that nobody in Hollywood wanted to make. I was attached to it for almost three years before it went.
24:58🔗DJ QuallsCraig Brewer, a guy who lives in Memphis. He's a writer director from Memphis. He he did it.
25:03🔗AdamAnd you I mean, I only know what you play from the commercial where they were having fun calling the light skin black. But are you DJing in this thing or what are you doing in the music producer?
25:17🔗DJ QuallsI play the piano at Anthony Anderson's characters at his church. And I'm sort of brought in to this pimp's house. Like he's a hardcore sort of Memphis pimp. And I'm I'm a white guy that shows up to help him get his sound together.
25:33🔗AdamAnd and your your background is do you have do you do music?
26:18🔗DJ QuallsThis is just about a guy. It's actually the director's story about how he made his first movie. His wife became a stripper to help him finish his movie. And and he just he sort of really suffered to do it. And that's what the movie is sort of about. And I think while he was scouting locations for his first movie, a pimp rolled up in a Caprice Classic and said, hey, and he had this white girl with him and he was like, hey, are you interested in the girl? And he said, no. And then he tried to sell him the car. And so it was just sort of like attitude of just sort of, you know, doing whatever you have to do to survive.
27:16🔗Well, I hear you talk to strippers all the time, saying they learn to hate men. And by doing that, I want to know if maybe this was going to affect me the same way. It's a little different version.
27:58🔗I've had stalkers. I've had guys hit at me. I just don't get in a relationship. Why?
28:02🔗AdamI mean, you're clearly strange, but what's up?
28:06🔗I don't know, like my friends lost their virginity when I was pretty young and they all regretted it. And so I was like, well, I'm never going to do that. Right.
28:16🔗AdamThat should last until about 17 and a half. And then, you know, your brain should, you know, re-function.
28:25🔗It's like, I look at guys and I'm attracted, but I'm like, I don't really want a relationship. And I do want a relationship.
28:31🔗DrewWell, here's the deal, Fiona. There's the girls that become strippers participate in the men's exploitation of them as a sexual object, which is usually a re-enactment of something that happened to them in childhood when they were exploited by their dad or some neighbor or somebody had sexual abuse with them. That's a totally different thing than what you're doing, which is isolating with your sexuality. You're using it as a way to sort of pull yourself into a fantasy world where no one else participates with you. And it's a very aggressive kind of, I wonder if you're sort of angry at this isolation and the way to let that out is through these aggressive images.
29:07🔗AdamIt's definitely weird. I mean anyone who's into that anime is a weirdo. It's horribly, it's aesthetically hard stuff to look at. Just, I can't stand that junk. I get angry. It's weird to me. It's like, I was switching channels around and I see that Pokemon thing and it's like, I have to dive on the remote. I can't change it fast enough.
29:32🔗DrewIt's like annoying sounds. Yeah, like sounds like, ah, ah, ah, like chalk nails on a blackboard.
29:38🔗AdamYes, that's what it is. It's like it hits on a sort of weird visceral level that just transcends bad art. Like, you know, I want to see a crappy cartoon. I'll watch Grape Ape. Yeah. That's a crappy cartoon.
29:51🔗AdamThis runs much deeper than that. And then my theory always is, is if it hits me on some visceral level, and it's like, ah, I have to avert my gaze and I can't stay in it and I have to change the channel. Then you show me people that are into him. Weirdos. That means they're bizarre weirdos. They have to be.
30:08🔗DrewLet you hear that, DJ. So anything, if you don't like what Adam likes, you're a bizarre weirdo.
30:24🔗AdamIt's a weird thing that's embraced ironically by weirdos. Of course. Like if some guy just said, look, we're driving across country. I'm a huge Japanese anime fan. What would you be like?
30:36🔗AdamYeah, I bet you'd just drag me behind the car in a mechanics creeper. I'll be fine. I'll just hang onto the bumper. I'll stand on a skateboard and you just drag me. Wouldn't you rather opt for that?
31:37🔗It's about... I want to know if it's still okay. Like I said, a lot of it's fetishist stuff, and some of these are like children, like they're 17. And I want to know if that was still okay to draw.
31:47🔗DrewWell, in the cosmic sort of scales of justice...
31:51🔗AdamYou're drawing, you mean you're drawing underage cartoons.
32:36🔗DrewLet's talk about this in terms of the scales of ethical justice.
32:39🔗AdamAnd then I put my finger over the mustache when I was looking at it. I'll put a little tape over it.
32:43🔗DrewOn one hand, you could argue that these people getting pictures of this child porn is better than them having real pictures of real humans doing things. It could divert that need or at least that market.
32:55🔗AdamYeah, it's like them saying, at least they're drinking and smoking weed, not actually doing coke. Which we all know just means they just start doing coke eventually.
33:03🔗DrewExactly, and that's the thing about these pictures is that I think it's like, you have to be cold turkey on these behaviors that are so dangerous. You can't massage it anyway because it will go off into that direction.
33:10🔗AdamThese people need to be swatted like flies. They're weirdos.
33:13🔗DrewSo the bottom line is if you want to know it's not okay in terms of what you're doing for other people and for children, in terms of your own soul, I think it takes a piece of it with you. I really do.
33:21🔗AdamI'm not really into the slippery slope stuff. I can't stand the slippery slope very.
33:26🔗DrewThis is momentum. This is the slippery slope.
33:28🔗AdamYes. I'm saying in the field of anything that pertains to child pornography or any kind of stuff that even seems close to that, I'm a big fan of the slippery slope stuff. I don't, oh yeah, you just get off the 12-year-olds in their underpants. They're not really doing anything. That's enough. I don't want to give you that. It's going to lead into other things.
33:49🔗DrewI wouldn't even, it's not a slippery slope that you slide into. It's drives that are intensified.
33:55🔗AdamRight. I'm just saying there are other, I don't want to sound like I'm contradicting myself because I argue against the slippery slope thing oftentimes. This is not that.
34:05🔗DrewYou mean it's not a slippery slope that us turning left during left red arrows is going to lead to us running through stoplights and just drive my car to a wall?
34:20🔗DrewYeah, of sorts. Compulsion is not a strong enough word, really. I mean compulsion is things that trouble you and you don't want to do and you sometimes are compulsive. This is something you must do.
34:30🔗AdamWould have been funny if DJ said F in compulsion. That would have sounded funny. I mean, yeah. And I don't know how you get it out of somebody.
34:41🔗AdamWell, here's what I, let's talk about this because it's Sunday night. You know, might as well get heavy. I think there's this thought that we have that we're starting to realize may not be correct, which is as a sane, we're all right thinking, sane people who would never do anything sexual to a child. And as a matter of fact, it's not in our vocabulary. It's bizarre. Couldn't even think about it, you know. But we think we can take this sanity and sort of inject it into somebody who doesn't have these thoughts. And I'm starting to wonder if that's possible. If you, like I always say, Drew, you like the ladies, you're passionate, passionate man, sensual, sensuous, passionate, sensuous, sensuous, sensuous, your sensual, passionate man. And if I said to you, look, hey, hey, no more ladies now. That's enough. Now you know you're doing wrong. We need some 12 year old boys. You'd be sneaking out to get the chicks. No matter what we told you, you might go long. I mean, you might go, yeah, give me a 13 year old. Then you sneak out the window and go find yourself a chick.
35:53🔗DrewRight. Then you're saying the converse is the same.
35:55🔗AdamThe converse is, and even maybe stronger because what they're doing is not even like, I don't know if they're as flexible as we could be. They're insane. You find a guy who thinks it's a nice idea to be with a nine-year-old male sexually, you're going to have a hard time telling that guy that's wrong, or you can tell him it's wrong all you want. You have a hard time convincing him to stop. I don't know that we can, and I think our thought as a society is, is what we're saying and we're right, and if we just tell him what the answer is and listen.
36:29🔗DrewThe biggest misconception we have is that somehow reason will prevail.
36:33🔗DrewIf we just convince them and help them understand why this is wrong, oh, then they'll stop doing it. Right. No, we're not talking about that part of the brain. That part of the brain works fine. It's a different part you can't talk to that doesn't communicate with the outside, that is just a drive system that doesn't have logic, doesn't have language, and it prevails.
36:49🔗AdamYes. Look, I'm the same way with the pedophiles as I am with the terrorists. Look, we can only convince these people that we're good, caring people that just wanted to spread our form of government, and now they want to blow us up even more. Maybe we just got to go crush them. Anyone who wants to blow us up, we go blow them up, and anyone who wants to F a nine-year-old, put them in the ground. And then we keep moving, and all the normal people that don't want to F a nine-year-old and don't want to blow up a bus in England, we get to all just go about our lives. It's awesome, isn't it?
37:21🔗DJ QuallsBecause I do wonder about that. When people get released from prison for abusing children.
37:35🔗AdamYeah, and the point is, you put me in the joint for eight years, first thing I want is jugs when I get out. That's number one. I want some Haagen-Dazs, and I want some giant areolas. That's what I want. Big areola Sunday. With a nipple on top. All right. Let's take a break. Please. DJ Qualls is here.
38:23🔗AdamHey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. DJ Qualls is here tonight. Hustle and Flow. Name of the movie. I've been seeing a lot of commercials for it. I've almost deemed it is one of those movies that may be too cool for me to watch.
38:41🔗DJ QuallsIt's really not. No, it's about a bunch of poor people, like trying to do the best they can.
38:46🔗AdamI know, but they know they're cool on some level.
38:49🔗DrewThis may stir up some feelings for you, Adam.
38:52🔗AdamYeah, I see a good movie where things are getting blown up and the aliens are landing. I think I could do that, but this movie seems like it might be too good for me to watch.
39:05🔗DJ QuallsIt's a good movie, but I think you can relate to a black pimp from Memphis. You have that vibe.
39:11🔗AdamYeah, I do. Well, first off, as any pimp knows, green is for the money and gold is for the honey. Because my dear, dear friend, Bishop Don Magic Juan, told me that many years ago when we traveled about with him. Yeah, drinking off his chalice, driving around in the, I think we're driving in his Rolls, maybe his Caddy.
39:31🔗DrewOver to his apartment in Culver City, I think.
39:47🔗AdamNo, yeah, no. Don Magic One has become a caricature of himself over the last few years. But first off, one of the few guys who has a Rolls Royce, has a Cadillac and lives in a crappy apartment. There aren't too many guys driving a Rolls live in a crappy apartment.
40:07🔗AdamYeah. And we pulled up into his apartment, and we're doing a man show thing. And he was just there. And it was like it was like a scene. It was it was like a scene from Animal House, where they go into that black bar and they're like, Otis, my man. And everyone just turns and looks at me and Jimmy just come walking in. There's like nine like the guys look like gangbangers just sitting there. We're the only white guys in the place. They're they're eating like Popeye's chicken and playing, you know, Nintendo. And they're just baked out of their brains. You cloud of smoke. And Jimmy and I come walking in and are wearing like tough skins and velour shirts. And I, hey fellas, what's happening? And I'll just turn around and smoke just staring at these bloodshot eyes that have no idea who we are, what we're doing there. Then later on, Don Magic Wand, you know, showed us the ropes.
40:58🔗DrewI remember I interviewed a pimp once named like Rose Paddle or something for a webcast.
41:11🔗DrewWhich is an interesting thing. People who are physically abusive or even sexually abusive often believe that because somebody doesn't run away from them or doesn't sort of fight back, that that means they need it or want it. It's how they interpret them. It allows them to go on with their behaviors.
41:25🔗AdamPimp is one of these... Pimp is actually a gig that you get a better shake at in movies than you do in real life. Real pimps are probably abusive, criminal, drug addicts.
41:40🔗AdamAbsolutely. Just, no way. Your average pimp is just as probably low as a guy gets, but we've made him into sort of a nice caricature on TV and movies and things like that. And he's actually, they get a pretty good shake.
41:55🔗DJ QuallsWe put him in a nice purple hat with a feather coming out the door.
41:58🔗AdamAnd he's got a little information for Starsky and everything's cool. Yeah. I wonder, but I wonder who has gotten a bad shake. You know what I mean? Like, firemen get a good shake. I'll tell you who gets a bad shake. Pimps get, you know, pimps are full-blown criminals and at best they're just sort of lovable troublemakers in movies, right? Firemen are the greatest guys in the world in any movie, right? I'll tell you who gets a bad shake. National Guardsmen. They're always nincompoops. They're always like sort of when the hero's coming up to them, dude, you can't get past here. And they're always trying to explain things to them. You don't understand. You're going the wrong way. You're going to get hurt. And they won't listen. And then they go and then the ray hits them and they blow up. Like, you ever met a smart, has there ever been a smart National Guardsman in any movie of any kind?
42:48🔗AdamLike, some just MPs to get better MPs and National Guardsmen. Any movie that they're in, they're just always the clod dirt brain idiot who's trying to get in the way of the guy who knows what the real answer is.
43:02🔗AdamYou know what they want to do, too? They want to shoot at whatever it is. And the person is saying, no, don't shoot at them. If you shoot it out of the way and they fire the fire, the gun and then the laser start going off and things start disintegrating.
43:15🔗DrewNever smart National Guardsmen Throughout film history? Throughout film history.
43:53🔗Yeah. I got a question for the doctor. I heard previously not too long ago that there's an operation for somebody like me who has a crooked penis.
44:04🔗DrewThere is. Yeah. Oh, sure there is. In fact, I did a show about these penile surgeries for Discovery Health Channel Wednesday midnight. I think it's coming up in a week or two, this particular one. Yeah, nice.
44:15🔗DrewI did the enlargement. We talked about the crookeds and stuff too. And there's various procedures that can be done. I will tell you that primarily there's a couple reasons why you would get it done. One is if you have erectile dysfunction, pain, or trouble sustaining an erection, or if you find your partner is having pain with intercourse. Like it hurts to your your heterosexual, right? Yes. And so if your female partner is complaining that it's hurting them, then you might want to get it corrected. The fact is though that basically they correct it by sort of bringing, swinging over the short side to the long side. Does that make sense? Yeah.
44:58🔗AdamI don't like cake as much. I like pie. I don't like to think of a penis pie.
45:02🔗DrewAll right. So cake, you don't like penis pie. So it's cake pie.
45:05🔗AdamIt's a little better than mince meat, actually.
45:07🔗DrewPenis cake. Penis cake's okay? Yeah. It's one time cake is okay with you.
45:11🔗AdamI just, you know, I like pie better than cake and I don't like the pie chart. I want it to be a cake chart. I want my piece of the cake, you know. I like to be cake, you know, when taking your cut of the cake.
45:22🔗DrewSo you want to be sure to talk to urologists and or plastic surgeons that have extensive experience with this.
45:29🔗AdamGuys who get a bad shake on TV and movies. Most guys who ride motorcycles are bad guys in all these movies, whether it's the crazy Japanese sort of gang, that ninja gang that pulls up next to the guys driving the car, or it's just your basic filthy biker.
45:52🔗AdamThat's, you know, that's Stallone from First Blood, you know, that's any time you get, you know, knock the guy off the guy, you're being chased, you got to get on the bike. That guy's a great guy. But the guy who rides the bike full time, bad guy.
46:11🔗AdamOnce in a while, go running out on the street in front of the courthouse, knock some guy down, it's just commuting on his bike and take the bike, and the bike will spin around a little on the ground, then you hop on it. And that guy should flap his arms around and go, hey, come back, or something generic.
46:26🔗DJ QuallsI want you to try that, because you know everything happens just like it does in the movies in real life, so go right out and do that.
46:31🔗AdamI just like the guy, hey, come back, has anyone ever stopped? Like, what did the guy get his bike commandeered?
46:36🔗DrewBy the way, you're getting carjacked. Just because you have a bicycle doesn't mean you're not getting carjacked.
46:39🔗AdamDo you think the guy got his bike commandeered eight months ago and yelled, hey, come back, and the guy doubled around and said, sorry, gave him the bike back, sorry, man, I freaked. I don't know what I'm saying.
46:53🔗AdamIt's like when you do the phone thing, hey, hello, hello? Is everyone on the 55th button? Hello? Yeah, I'm here. I'm still here. All right. DJ Qualls is here tonight. Hustle and Flow, name of his new joint. Take a out on the 22nd of July, a quick break. He's going to be on Leno tomorrow night, I should mention too.
48:15🔗AdamWhen I play air stuff, this system is down, I'll switch around. I might be playing the bass, and then the guitar solo comes around, I'm playing that.
48:30🔗AdamOh, yeah, John's on the drums. Yeah, you go eat your baba ganoush, I'll beat the skins. Thank you very much. System of down, everybody. DJ Qualls isn't here tonight. He's a good little movie called Hustle and Flow, and he says, best movie he's ever been in.
48:49🔗DJ QuallsYeah, well, you should see the movies I've been in.
49:00🔗AdamYou know, the only part of that movie I didn't like? They were jumping a Ford Taurus over a ravine. Maybe it was DJ Qualls who actually had to say, this car is going to be traveling at 50 miles an hour in the hypotenuse of the angle.
49:20🔗AdamOh, really? Yeah, he went on to explain that a 1986 Ford Taurus station wagon weighs 1,300 pounds and traveling at 40 miles an hour is like the car was 4,000 pounds. You guys were off by 300 percent. There's no car on the road that weighs under 3,000 pounds. Maybe like a two seater Lotus. It doesn't exist. There's no car ever been built. That's not true that you're talking about a go-kart or a motorcycle. Which is one of those things where I get angry because I know stuff and I realize people that write scripts never seem to know anything about anything technically. Just get on the goddamn computer. Let's look it up.
49:56🔗DrewYou would think there'd be people checking that kind of thing. Producers.
50:01🔗AdamTV, if you know anything, TV annoys you normally in movies as well. Whenever they get technical, they're like, hey buddy, oh, what's this baby? Oh, it's got hollowed out cams on it and a 445. Hollowed out cams? That doesn't exist. You can't just make stuff up. Just go to the stupid computer and look up something about a car.
50:23🔗DrewYou know some stuff about these things. And if you were to be saying something, they go, oh, we gotta check that out. Well, we'll see about that. I know things too. And I-
51:00🔗AdamIt wasn't his line, though, the guy from Joey's other brand.
51:02🔗DJ QuallsNo, but we had a big explosion that day. Like, the car exploded like 30 feet from me, and I was so nervous about that. I wasn't thinking about, and plus, as an actor, you don't listen to the other actors.
51:12🔗DJ QuallsYou're worried about yourself. That wasn't my line.
51:14🔗AdamI know. I always like it when you go in, they're like, did you read the script? You're like, well, I read some of my parts. What do you mean, the whole script? No, why do I want to know their parts? Just fill my head with other parts, other pieces, parts. The other thing that got me mad recently was War of the Worlds had a car thing in it. Anyone see War of the Worlds?
51:50🔗AdamA lot of, I mean, Spielberg. I like the guy normally, but screwed this one up. But there was this whole thing where he commandeered a van, and it was the only van that ran because he knew it was the starting solenoid, and I had to ruin it for my wife by explaining to her in the middle of the movie that even if the starter solenoid was bad on every car in the world, which is that was the whole premise, and he got the one car, and he was smart enough to change it, and that's why he could drive it. You could bump start every single manual shift car, which 60 percent of the cars in the road would be riding. So he's driving through this wasteland of stalled cars, but you just drop it into second gear, pop the clutch, and start the car. It's a horrible premise.
53:24🔗AdamSean made the cover again this month. It's fantastic. You just do a tour of Snoop's House every single... You really could publish the exact same article three weeks, three issues later for eternity and no one ever... Who are they going to write a letter? Do you write a letter?
53:57🔗CallerSo, um, guess my question's for Dr. Drew Adam. Obviously, feel free to chime in. But, uh, so for the past three months or so, maybe about a dozen times now, I've woken up in the morning to my girlfriend asking me if I remembered what I did and what I said last night, and it turns out that I've been having, like, sleep-sect with her, very, like, aggressive. I'll just wake up in the middle of the night, but not even be awake so much, and get very aggressive with her, not violent, but some of the things that come out of my mouth that she tells me I said are definitely not of my normal character.
54:26🔗AdamAnd you have, you have no recollection of this.
54:30🔗CallerNo, Adam saved a dozen times. It's happened twice. I've, uh, like had a vague memory of me. All I thought I did was kind of, you know, rubbing and fondling and then, but I passed right back out after like 10 to 20 seconds of it.
54:40🔗DrewDo you, do you have a history of other sorts of sleep disturbances when you were growing up, say?
54:45🔗CallerNo, I've always been like sleeping is one thing. I've never had a problem with it.
54:48🔗DrewSo you never sleptwalk? You never had night terrors?
54:51🔗CallerNo, none of that. Maybe when I was a kid, like twice, three times, I like, I ended up in my, like, sleptwalking to my parents' bed maybe like one or two times, three times.
55:04🔗AdamHey, is, uh, now, is this the first woman you've slept with consistently?
55:10🔗CallerUm, I'd say as far as, like, spending the night and everything, yes, like, I've definitely had girlfriends and stuff where I spent the night, but never this much, pretty much on a nightly basis.
55:19🔗AdamYeah. I think there's a certain novelty in it. There's a weird thing is, you know, when you're relatively young and you, you stay with a woman consistently at the beginning, that you may be asleep, but your penis is up. I mean, it's like, whoa, I ain't going to bed. What's going on? There's a chick here. You know what I mean?
55:38🔗CallerBut why is it such like, according to her, like some of the things that come out of my mouth, they're just like not what I would normally say in any way whatsoever. It's like, it's pretty vulgar.
55:47🔗DrewLike what? You seem to want to tell us what it is, so.
55:51🔗CallerI'll feel free to abbreviate, so you won't have to believe me. I'll say things like, I want to F the F in S out of you. I want to suck on your F in T's.
56:02🔗AdamListen, you MF-ing B. I want to F the S out of your T's with my throbbing C. And shoot, a hot loaded J all over your B's. It's really awesome what we've turned into as a society, isn't it?
56:44🔗DrewYou spent too long in Vegas. It's changed you.
56:47🔗AdamNow, give me an F and B while I watch some sports C. Yeah.
56:53🔗DrewAll right, Paul, this is a this is not an uncommon thing or it's certainly not common, but it's not unheard of. Let's put it that way. You want any medication? Do you do drugs, alcohol?
57:05🔗DrewAll right. Usually, this is a form of sleep disturbance. There can be mood disturbances, bipolar disorder, those kinds of things sometimes associated with this. Sleep terrors, sleepwalking, that kind of thing is often a precursor to this. Even seizure type phenomenon. I wouldn't be surprised if you were under a lot of stress with serious kinds of sleep deprivation going on right now. This is just sort of a manifestation of that. There are people who have tried medication to sort of push this down when these things happen. I've treated a lot of patients that get up and rip their room apart. They have rages at night. They have night terrors and rages and things. Really? Yeah, it's crazy.
57:40🔗DJ QuallsYou grew out of that though? I heard that you grew out of night terrors.
57:42🔗DrewNight terrors, but then they turn into these kinds of things when you're an adult.
57:56🔗DrewYeah. You got to bring them down. You got to call them.
57:59🔗AdamOh, my God. Yeah, I mean, that's going to freak your wife out.
58:04🔗DrewThat's kind of a drug addict thing. That's people doing their withdrawal and stuff.
58:07🔗AdamAll right. Here's the other thing, too. You know, people, guys want to know, why all the dark, misogynistic things? I do, I know this point has been pounded into the ground, but I think as guys, there's a lot of stuff that resides within us in our DNA that we have to sort of repress a little bit. And when you fall asleep or you get high enough or drunk enough, it starts to sort of rear its ugly head. Well, I mean, it's no wonder why everyone's dreams are much less passive than what they are. I mean, they're much more aggressive than they are passive, you know? That's what's sort of running around in your weird reptilian brain somewhere. All right. Heavy, man.
59:35🔗AdamThe city of the cats. It's a crap. You know, it's fleas and crap everywhere.
59:42🔗DrewThe problem is the names that we've chosen for all California cities gets very confusing.
59:47🔗AdamWell, let me just say this. I would say one of the number, maybe the number one issue facing all these border cities is illegal immigration. And when every city is in every street and every street, you know, it's like, well, you go to San Diego, leave for Mexico. You're giving a guy Metro not to go to San Diego, not to go to Chula Vista, not to go to Sierra Madre, Sierra Madre, not to take Sepulveda Boulevard over over to Los Feliz.
1:00:24🔗AdamHit Santa Barbara on your way out to San, you know, pass through San Clemente and go into Santa Barbara and then San Rafael. And it never ends. It doesn't end. We don't have a name. The city doesn't have a Spanish surname to it. It keeps going. So it's weird. It's sort of weird telling it, don't come to this place we've named for you. It's weird.
1:00:56🔗CallerOkay. Germany or Florida. A family ate breakfast for 18 months from the surface of a broken deep freezer that contained the mummified body of their seven-year-old son. The Grizzly discovered what? Yeah.
1:01:15🔗CallerThe Grizzly discovered will trigger a major inquiry into the shortcomings of social services, which do not energetically investigate the fate of the boy despite his absence from school for more than a year. We found the body in a search of a five-room apartment owned by the people who have eight other children aged between five and 20. The mother was detained and reportedly told the police that the child had been dead since December 2002. The problem is that it's unclear.
1:01:42🔗AdamI mean I know this is either, well to me it's either it's either Jewish or Asian family. I mean it's impossible to be anything other than Jew or Asian.
1:01:50🔗CallerI mean that's kind of what we're doing because I'm Jewish.
1:01:52🔗AdamYeah, it's impossible that this, I'm sorry Noah, but this has got to be Jewish family. We're talking about eight kids, one of them's in a freezer, he's mummified, they're eating on top of the freezer. I mean I know Jews. This is the way they act, let's be honest. So, but all that aside, I feel high, like what is this about? Is this a riddle? I'm never wrong. We have to guess if this took place in Germany or Florida.
1:02:14🔗DrewAll macabre activity. If you read a story and it's something bizarre, and sort of particularly sexually or sort of violently, but macabre, Germany or Florida, those are the two places where things occur.
1:02:55🔗AdamI feel bad when I happen to know that it's a Jewish or Asian family, but I think they're Turkish. I can't judge. I can not. Noah, Germany or Florida?
1:03:23🔗DJ QuallsLike literally like 15 seconds before the ball drops. I know. I know where it's going to go. Like I just see it. And I used to have night terrors. And I would get, I would get like things would come to me. I would go in and say to my parents, they would wind up happening. When I was 12 years old, I went into my dad's bedroom and I was out of my mind, like crying at night terror. I told him I had cancer. Two years later, I was diagnosed. Oh, really? Yes. I know everything.
1:03:48🔗AdamWell, that could just be hypochondria. What cancer?
1:03:52🔗DJ QuallsYou can't cause yourself to have cancer, can you? No.
1:03:54🔗AdamNo. No. But there's there's many a neurotic child that thinks they might have cancer, because I saw a special on 2020 on cancer the night before.
1:04:16🔗DJ QuallsI just did a pilot, and they asked for pictures from my parents and my dad. I never thought he would send the fat pictures. I'm walking down a stairway to get arrested by Mandy Patinkin, and I look over, and there's a picture of me probably like 5'2 and 200 pounds. Yeah. I was so pissed off.
1:04:33🔗AdamYou were so, you were, yeah. So you were, is your family big?
1:06:45🔗DrewSo a lot of these stage ones, a lot easier to treat.
1:06:47🔗AdamDad should be jailed, no doubt about it.
1:06:49🔗DJ QuallsDefinitely should, I'm suing him right now.
1:06:50🔗AdamOh, I'd like to get it on it, too. Okay. So I feel like I've been affected by it as well. I mean, obviously not to the extent that you have, but it's still some room for me to wet my beak.
1:07:00🔗DJ QuallsYeah, my father's a factory employee. I don't think we're going to get much.
1:07:15🔗DJ QuallsIt's the joy of taking what they do have.
1:07:17🔗AdamIt's better that they don't have anything. You know what I mean? Yeah, oh, you don't have a refrigerator, just a cooler? All right, I'll take that. No, I'm not going to use it. I'm going to throw it out, but I need it. I'll actually just put a couple of puncture a couple of holes in it with a screwdriver and get it back, yeah. Yeah, so 200 pounds, like age 12. And how did they diagnose the Hodgkins? What were the symptoms?
1:07:44🔗DJ QuallsI was asymptomatic. That was the thing. It was crazy. I was walking around totally fine. I had lumps in my neck.
1:07:50🔗AdamAnd probably with your extra weight, harder to show up or harder to find?
1:07:54🔗DJ QuallsYeah, well, not only that. I didn't know what it was. Because I thought it was maybe puberty or maybe something like that.
1:08:00🔗AdamOr maybe a milk dud that just got lodged on you. Shotgunning more milk duds. One got stuck along the way.
1:08:57🔗DJ QuallsWell, I mean, I'm sure people only like you sometimes just because you're on the radio, right? With friends who just like to hang out with you because you're a celebrity?
1:09:09🔗AdamPeople do often, the chick only blew you because you're, eh, that's why I did it, you idiot. Why don't you do it? Stop worrying about what their motivation is and you start going to figure out and motivate someone yourself.
1:09:21🔗DJ QuallsYeah, I don't have too many whys in my life. I just have a bunch of is's. Like, I don't really question a bunch of crap.
1:09:31🔗AdamPick apart everything and figure out why everyone wants to hang out.
1:09:33🔗DrewWhat works for you guys is what works.
1:09:34🔗AdamNo, here's the thing. People want to hang out with anybody based on whether there's an attractive package or not.
1:09:41🔗DrewThey're interesting or they're whatever.
1:09:43🔗AdamAre they dynamic? Are they interesting? Are they smart? Do they share the same interests? Sometimes some people are just really good looking and people are attracted to them, other people are really smart.
1:09:51🔗DrewThe problem is the pool of people that need to bask in the narcissistic glow of celebrity tend to be people that don't make great friends.
1:10:07🔗DJ QuallsAnd I mean most of my friends are in my same line of work, so they're of comparable success or whatever. We all play the clarinet, so they're on Get Baked and talk about how our movie roles really go.
1:10:20🔗AdamSo you know people, you have friends in the business.
1:10:23🔗DJ QuallsYeah. Most of my friends are actors.
1:10:25🔗AdamSee, I'm from here, so I don't need any new friends. I just got my old friends.
1:10:33🔗DJ QuallsYou left Tennessee. I think that when I, I mean, because I'm from a pretty rural part of the country, so I would call them like, what are you doing? And a lot of my friends got jobs at gas stations and factories and things like that. Right. You know, and I would ask them what they were doing and they would say, you know, I'm going to the gas station of the factory tomorrow and I would be, you know, on a movie set, like in Spain or somewhere. And it would piss them off. Like they would think that I was bragging when you're just sort of telling your day.
1:11:03🔗AdamDJ Qualls is here tonight. Hustle and Flow, name of the new movie. We'll be right back. Coming out on the 22nd of July, by the way. We'll take a quick break, get back, talk to Sean. Gets off from videotaping people having kinky sex. Talk to him. I was calling from Yorba Linda, by the way, which is another. Yorba Linda means come on down in Spanish. We'll take a quick break. Be right back after this.
1:11:49🔗AdamHey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191. DJ Qualls is here tonight. Hustle and Flow, name of the new movie. Best project he's ever done, and the buzz is good early and often. Been seeing the commercials, been hearing it reviewed. It's coming out the 22nd of July. Sean, from Your Belinda, is 22. Sean?
1:12:53🔗AdamHold on a second. First off, why are you giving the website address or name out? But number two, you're not gay and your girlfriend wouldn't do it, so you just videotape a guy beating off?
1:13:08🔗DJ QuallsWell, he wasn't just beating off.
1:13:10🔗AdamOh, okay. And his thumb in his ass, too? Okay, well, that's totally heterosexual. A thousand pardons, I had no idea. I thought he was just masturbating. That makes it gay. If he was waving at you while he was beating off, that's a totally different situation. Give me a big thumbs up. Actually, a big thumbs up would kind of make it straight. The guy was laughing. Big Fonzie.
1:13:33🔗DJ QuallsNo, like, I wouldn't want to, like, you know, put my own stuff in him, but...
1:14:08🔗AdamOr bogus. So you got A, gay, B, weirdo, C, gay weirdo, it's a little combination, and D, bogus. Now if I were you, I'd hope it was bogus, but if it's not, I think I would go, Gay weirdo. Gay weirdo? No, I could just go weirdo. Yeah.
1:14:27🔗DJ QuallsI don't think that it's, I don't know, I guess it's kind of weird, but.
1:15:19🔗DrewThere's an international convention on this one.
1:15:20🔗AdamYeah, you gotta say it's bogus if it's bogus.
1:15:23🔗DJ QuallsIt's not, though. Like, I don't know if you wanna think it is. I just wanna know if you guys could, like, help me figure out how to get my girlfriend into it. Is there any way to kind of...
1:15:35🔗DrewHere's the deal. We could be totally effed up.
1:15:38🔗AdamSome guys are so effed up that they sound like robots, and then that makes them sound like bad actors. It makes them bogus. I think Keanu Reeves has a little of that in him.
1:15:49🔗AdamA lot of that in him. But Sean has some of that, too. Sean, do you actually think we're gonna tell you how to get your girlfriend to masturbate in front of you while you film her with a video camera? Or what would even make you think we would want to give you that advice even if we knew what that was?
1:16:05🔗DJ QuallsNo, but like would you think that if I asked and I said that I had gotten a guy to do it, would that make her want to do it more?
1:16:38🔗AdamBy the way, you should just say B, please, play the game right. Sticking with weirdo. You're stuck with weirdo? All right, because we're getting to the bonus round.
1:16:47🔗DrewSean, this is problematic behavior for many, many reasons.
1:16:54🔗AdamMost of the problem is is you don't know it's a problem.
1:16:57🔗DrewRight, and you don't have any sense of how a female partner would respond to this behavior and that your intent on getting her to do something that's exploitative is further evidence of your lack of concern or empathy for who she is and what she feels.
1:17:14🔗AdamThe fact that you think you're going to tell her you met a dude on the internet and he lets you videotape him beating off, that's going to get her any closer to this.
1:17:20🔗DrewShe will run out of the room screaming when you tell her that.
1:17:22🔗AdamThe fact that you are even toying with the idea of telling her this means something's clearly wrong with your thought process.
1:17:28🔗DJ QuallsWell, we normally have a pretty honest relationship and it's kind of upsetting to me that I'm not, like, I'm not telling her.
1:17:35🔗DrewAnd this is going to somehow coerce her into that behavior.
1:19:17🔗DJ QuallsI'm really not because I'm kind of confused why he needs therapy. I don't really understand. I mean, if, if it's not, does it, I mean, this is not the only thing that gets you sexually aroused, right?
1:19:28🔗DJ QuallsNo, it's just like something I like that I couldn't get my girlfriend into, and I'd like for her to get into it.
1:19:36🔗AdamYeah, the reason he needs therapy is A.
1:19:51🔗AdamHe keeps talking to his girlfriend about doing something that most chicks just don't want to do, especially when there's a video camera present.
1:19:57🔗DrewWell, no, that level of intimacy with another male is going to freak her out. I mean, that's going to be like, what?
1:20:03🔗AdamThinks he's going to use the videotape of him, another guy beating off as a springboard into this. Like, honey, how about you? How about you diddle yourself while I videotape? No, I don't want to. Oh, yeah. Well, maybe this videotape will change your mind. Yeah. Oh, I see. That's how it's done. Yeah, I'm just saying. Look, I go to the shrink. Drew goes to the shrink. We're relatively sane. If we go to the shrink, Sean can go to the shrink. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. It's it's Sean's nuts. This is some serious issues with serious boundaries. And here's why we're saying this, DJ Qualls. We know that things don't exist in a vacuum. It's not just this. This is it.
1:20:49🔗DrewYou know, he just exploring his sexuality. Now it's a free country. Adam, how dare you judging based on this?
1:20:56🔗AdamThat's all I do is judge. He's a mess. He's a mess. I don't say he's dangerous. I don't say he's suicidal or homicidal.
1:21:05🔗AdamI'm saying for his good. Go hit the shrink. You're 22. You have a good life. Straighten out a few things. Maybe you are gay. Go have that life. Feel free to have that life. Free yourself, my friend.
1:21:18🔗DrewUnderstand sort of how the human works, particularly you, Sean.
1:21:57🔗I was religious up until I was about 22 and then I stopped being, I just quit being religious and then, but at that point I was a 22-year-old virgin and there's, I think maybe just for women, there is something about someone being your first. And so ever since then I haven't, I mean I've done, I mean when I say I'm a virgin, I'm technically a virgin, so I've explored things, but I haven't actually had sex with someone because you wanted to be right. There's something about someone being your first, and now I'm in medical school a year into it, so I have three, four years to go, so I'm pretty set on not having a serious, serious relationship until I'm out, just because it's very time consuming. So I'm thinking, oh my lord, I'm going to be 29 or 30 by the time I have sex. So I have a good friend that I've been friends with since college, and I didn't really date him. I didn't actually didn't really date him. We just-
1:22:59🔗AdamAll right, slow down. I know what the question is going to be.
1:23:01🔗DrewWhat about your classmates in college, in medical school rather?
1:23:06🔗There's just nobody. I mean, I've dated people since I was not religious, but it's just, there's always that pressure, that weight of, well, is this the person I want to be my first? And I just, there just wasn't something. So I have like a good friend whom I love very deeply, have had a great relationship with, was friends with when I was-
1:23:26🔗AdamYou know what this has become the sort of modern equivalent of, it used to be people would marry people to keep them in the country. You're not in love with the person. I know. I mean, it seemed like it was more popular at a certain point. I think they check into it a little more now. But the point is, I knew guys who, I knew a guy actually who did this and for like three grand or something. Point is, it's kind of come this way, become this way with virginity to a certain extent. There's a lot, we've talked to many a woman who's just wants to get it over with and realizes there were some guy from the neighborhood who she was friendly with. Ironically, never wanting to give it up because it had to be right. And now wanting to get it over with just to make it, well, I won't be beating up a raped or I won't fall in love or I won't whatever.
1:24:10🔗DrewBut this is a little different than we normally hear. Her thing is, most of that version would go, I just want a guy that I'm just attracted to, I'm gonna find that alpha male and just do it. She's saying, hey, a lot of that.
1:24:20🔗AdamNo, not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a guy, women know guys are all basically sure things. And so they know it's not a matter of whether they can hit the target, it's whether they want to squeeze the trigger. If she goes and squeezes the trigger, she can just knock on the guy's door and go, it's time. And his folks could be in town and he could still just bang her on a foldout sofa.
1:24:46🔗DrewBut her thing is, because it's her first, she wants it to be something memorable. So she wants it to be somehow emotionally meaningful. A friend, it's a friend she loves. So fine, go do it with him, that's fine. He'll be fine.
1:24:58🔗AdamYeah, but now I wanna know the rest of her story. Carrie?
1:25:02🔗AdamAnything we need to know about? About who? I'm smelling some, any molestation?
1:25:08🔗No, actually, that's the, never anything, like never. I was, I mean, I don't know if it might, mom died when I was four. She was raped by a single dad and just an older brother. I don't know if, I mean.
1:25:31🔗AdamAnd yeah, that's really traumatic. I mean, I don't know where that ranks up there between being molested or whatever, but that's huge. Mom dying at four.
1:25:41🔗DrewWell, it certainly affects your ability to be, feel safe in a relationship.
1:25:45🔗DrewAnd then you add to that a lot of, it sounds like a lot of religious intrusion that made you sort of freaked out about your sexuality. And then you abandoned that entirely, which is maybe you want to kind of integrate some part of that into your belief system, so you don't, that's sort of just trying to repress it.
1:26:13🔗AdamYou had a plan. Well, that's how you deal with it. Yes, of course. All right, so he had a plan for your mom, and you know, everything happens for a reason. That's what I believe. So we're almost giving you the green light on having sex with this strange guy.
1:26:27🔗DrewAnd I always said, you know, the medical school, the students kind of do a lot of dating usually. So why don't you guys find some friends in medical school too?
1:26:33🔗AdamYeah, I mean, there's nothing wrong with you, right? You're smart.
1:26:37🔗Yeah, I mean, I've been, I don't know, it's kind of an awkward thing to say, but I've been approached, I'm about, I'm 5'10, I'm 130, 140 pounds. I've been approached before about like modeling, like I'm not unattractive. I've had men, obviously I've had men wanting to have sex, me and men will have sex with almost anyone, but I just.
1:26:59🔗DrewTo start dating around your classmates, you'll find some more good relationships there, because you guys are like basically like. So it's like you're on a sinking ship together for two years. You won't see anybody else for the next two years, so.
1:27:10🔗AdamYeah, and look, I know everyone does that, not enough time for a relationship, but if you get into a relationship with someone else who doesn't have enough time for a relationship, you're fine.
1:27:20🔗DrewAnd by the way, dating, is this dating?
1:27:22🔗AdamYour wife has plenty of time for a relationship, and I don't. That's her problem, really. She's waiting for me to come home, so we can have a relationship, and I don't have time.
1:27:37🔗AdamNo, and it'd be nice if your wife didn't have enough time, either. They both wouldn't have enough time. Wouldn't you, wouldn't you love just to come home and like, you know, listen, sweetie, this Friday, I was thinking of me and you consuming not enough time. I'm on the move.
1:27:52🔗DrewI'm just saying, you wait till you have kids.
1:27:53🔗AdamThat'd be awesome, though, right? You wait. That'd be awesome. That'd be awesome, not enough time. Yeah, plenty of time. Watch that, Devo. Woo! DJ Qualls is here tonight. New movie, Hustle and Flow, out July 22nd. Getting favorable notices, Drew. Favorable. We'll take a quick break. Be right back after this.
1:28:53🔗AdamOh, yeah. Phone number, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Hustle and Flow, name of the movie, which is coming out on the 22nd of July. Boyfriend wants to have three son with a guy who says it's for her. Jessica?
1:29:16🔗Yeah, I'm kind of stuck. I don't know what to do. Go ahead.
1:29:22🔗DrewWhy is this so difficult if it's something you don't want to do to say, no, I'm not going to do it?
1:29:27🔗Well, it's not even the fact that like, I mean, I told him, no, I don't want to do it, but I'm stuck because I've been with him for two years. I'm in love with him. He's my first love. And he wants to have sex with me. I don't know if that means he's gay or if he's curious.
1:29:44🔗AdamLet me say a couple of things first off. When I hear first love, it means like first car, piece of crap I got rid of when I was 19.
1:29:52🔗DrewOr you should have gotten rid of it when you were 16.
1:29:54🔗AdamI should have gotten rid of it when I was 16. Well, if I didn't have it before 19, I would have gotten rid of it at 19. Yeah, stupid dad. Anyway.
1:30:01🔗DrewYeah, so there's a relationship that probably should end anyway.
1:30:03🔗AdamYeah, the first love is great. You have a first love, everyone should have a first love, and a second love, and marry your fifth love.
1:30:11🔗AdamAnd this kind of like, you know, this sort of crap where like, oh, I have all this time invested. This is a reason why you shouldn't invest any more time.
1:30:20🔗DrewYou've invested enough time. This thing is a crack in the block.
1:30:23🔗DrewYeah. You just throw a piston. Throw a rod.
1:30:26🔗AdamYou throw a rod. But, you know, the piston was attached to the rod. But it punched right through the block. And now the coolant is mixing in with the oil, and it's turned it white. And you're going to have to pull the thing and have it have it milled and hot tanked.
1:30:56🔗CallerI talked to him about it. And I said, you know, I was like, why would you want to do that? Are you gay? You know, tell me. Are you bi? Whatever. And he's like, no, no, I think it'd be fun for you. Like he's putting it on me. Like it's something I want to do. And I don't want to, I told him.
1:31:25🔗DrewGuys have gay that is sort of moving in that direction and they're having trouble contending with that. There's an other category here, which is this may be a guy that's sort of aggressive and misogynistic and likes seeing you have sex with another guy.
1:31:51🔗DrewThe engine's shot. The car is no good.
1:31:56🔗CallerSo basically I should just leave him. I mean, I know because A, I don't want to stay with a person who wants me to have sex with him.
1:32:05🔗DrewAnd B, it was your first love. You need to have a few more relationships.
1:32:07🔗AdamYou don't need B. Look, if A's good, you don't need a B. Think about that, everyone. If A is like, he tried to kill me, and B, he was late on his mortgage payment, you don't need a B.
1:32:41🔗CallerThey dated like two years ago, and she was his live-in nanny as well. What? When he was her employer, her employee. And then they broke up and she still lived there. Well, she passed away like seven months ago. And we've been dating for like four or five months. And about a month and a half, two months ago, I brought it up, why does he still have his stuff? And he says, cause he's guilty of how it ended and he didn't have feelings for her and all this other stuff.
1:33:51🔗AdamHe's growing his nanny and she died. He doesn't want to get rid of her stuff.
1:33:56🔗DrewJust a handful. That's all I can tell you. Just a lot of chaos, a lot of conflicted boundaries. And it was a handful. But you can't change that about him. He's somebody that has lots of bizarre and conflicted feelings and is making weird choices.
1:34:12🔗AdamI don't think you're going to get... Here's the deal. If you want to stay with this guy, stay with him and let the nanny stuff go.
1:34:19🔗DrewExactly. Because him getting rid of that is not going to be...
1:34:22🔗AdamAnd you being freaked out all the time is not going to work either. Just let it go or realize you can't let it go and say it's me or the nanny outfit that you beat off to.
1:34:31🔗DrewAnd it wouldn't be such a bad thing with this guy's boundaries. He's bringing somebody into living, and he's bringing in things here, if it's kids that he's sleeping with, mess.
1:34:38🔗AdamRight, all right. Michelle's very sympathetic.
1:35:02🔗AdamWe'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Well, that's it. That's the show, everybody. I think DJ Qualls were coming in here tonight.
1:35:54🔗DJ QuallsYeah, thanks for having me. Sorry I was late.
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