0:56🔗VoiceoverLoveline is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually oriented content. Sexually oriented content. Listener discretion is advised. This is Loveline. With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.
1:38🔗AdamI'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew, board certified physician, Dixon Medicine Specialist. And here's here's why everyone's a winner on on Best Of.
1:49🔗AdamOK. Yeah, I'm probably home. I'm drunk instead of just buzzed.
1:54🔗You know what I mean? Like I am when I'm in here. Yeah.
1:56🔗AdamBut here's why everyone's a winner. We're winners because we're at home. You're winners because you haven't heard half these shows. And even if you did, you were stoned and it was a year ago. And as opposed to no guest or one of the neighbors from the Parkers reunion show, you get big names like Jeff Probst from Survivor. Jeff Probst in studio tonight. Best gig on television next to this one next to this one. This one's on TV. But yeah, this great gig. Oh, here's Jenny. She has a kid with a 40 year old guy engaged to another girl. He's engaged to another girl. Jenny?
2:43🔗CallerI had a child two years ago. We were kind of seeing each other and he didn't really make an effort to make it known that he likes me. So I kind of like one about my business.
3:14🔗CallerThis other guy that I was... The beginning of March, I was seeing somebody. I was trying to break it off with him. And the end of March, I seen this other guy.
3:53🔗CallerI like him, but I don't want a single...
4:00🔗AdamHold on a second. Is it Quaalude Night? Everyone we spoke to tonight is just bad calls, bad lines. Just people with serious, like three Mississippi in between every goddamn syllable.
5:20🔗CallerTo see his son. Oh, but we met last month and he told me that he really loves kids and he really didn't want to have a child this way. And he's confused and doesn't know what to do. And he really liked me.
5:37🔗AdamWell, he really liked you as a friend. I mean, and he's engaged.
5:43🔗AdamAll right. So Jenny, yes, here's the deal. You're feeling lonely and vulnerable and all the above. This guy's engaged to another woman. He's confused. He's caught off guard. He doesn't even know he has a kid. He's going to come over there and say hi to the kid. It's just kind of between him and the kid, not really him and you. You guys were one night stand.
6:02🔗DrewI'm not sure you should really have. I mean, unless this guy's going to be in his life big time, to have a part time father is going to be extremely destructive to this kid.
6:28🔗AdamWhen she says the kid, she means herself. Like when I say, hey, the kid really had a great radio show tonight. Am I right, brother? The kid's hot. The kid's hot, am I right? That's what they mean when I say the kid. Jenny, here's what you need to do. You need to make sure you get money from this guy. And then I think you need to let him get engaged and get married and you to find another man and create a stable home for the kid, who's me.
7:00🔗AdamWhat's going on? What else is going on? You just confused and depressed? I don't have enough time. Here's what I gave her the speech about picking up the pace. Here's what she needs to do. Or, I don't know, it doesn't seem like Jenny's going to be the world's greatest mom.
7:19🔗AdamI'm worried about the kid. Okay, so here are the priorities. No more kids and see if you can get in a stable, realistic relationship with an available guy who can then be there for the kid.
7:33🔗DrewNot as you're obsessing about. Just somebody can create a stable, boring life with.
7:37🔗AdamThat's right. Ride it out and hopefully you'll be taken early.
7:43🔗CallerSpeaking to the kid, name this band. The kid is hot tonight.
7:46🔗AdamThat'd be a little lover boy. I've done that song karaoke in karaoke form like 700 times. I did that song so I'm such a bad karaoke singer that we used to have big karaoke parties over at Kimmel's house. And I would do the kid is hot tonight or hell is for children by Pat Benatar. It's really not a dry eye in the house. And one night, it would be one of these things where we'd be eating dinner, having a few drinks, send the kids to bed about 10 o'clock, and then the karaoke would start up. In the middle of hell is for children, Jimmy's daughter, Katie, was probably about nine at the time, came down the stairs crying, make him stop, daddy.
8:31🔗AdamYou know, kids get like frustrated and they're young and they just had a bad dream about someone, probably some guy with a megaphone yelling at him or something, literally bawling her eyes out as she came down the stairs, yelling, make him stop. No decorum. No decorum.
8:47🔗DrewThis is why you don't come around my house.
8:49🔗AdamYeah. Oh, Drew. I came around your house. The kids were naked.
8:54🔗AdamReally? They were two, but they were still naked and jumping off the furniture. I was worried that they were going to get hurt. Drew had turned his back to the children. Didn't seem to care about their welfare. I was very distracting. I could barely eat. So I just sort of swore off the visits.
9:12🔗CallerWhen is it okay, not okay to be naked anymore?
9:15🔗AdamWhat age is? Yeah. Drew, what is the age where you got to put some underoos on?
9:20🔗DrewWell, you put it on, you know, two is when they're throwing it off, but around eight to ten, they suddenly get incredibly modest.
9:53🔗AdamAll right. So that's when I head in and grab a beer because the show's over. Yeah. I'm not a pedophile, but, you know.
10:00🔗CallerUntil you're 25 and then you close, start coming off again.
10:02🔗AdamThen it comes off again. All right. Let's, we got a question for Jeff, by the way. One I'm sure he's never heard before. Someone wants to know what your favorite and least favorite, oh, wait a minute. Who is your favorite and least favorite rock and roll Jeopardy celeb? Oh, I thought it was a survivor question.
10:42🔗AdamHe was great. He was like the grand champion on the show, right?
10:45🔗CallerHe never lost. And you know who else was really funny was Joe Walsh because the idea of taking Joe Walsh and putting him in a game in which he not only has to read a question, but then tell his brain to push a button that will light up. They ain't never going to happen. And after the first commercial, he had nothing. I don't think he had even won.
11:04🔗AdamI mean, that was like a Saturday Night Live sketch, Joe Walsh on that show. It was like Sean Connery on the Saturday Night Live version of Jeopardy. Like he cannot form a sentence.
11:18🔗CallerAnd he said, he goes, yeah, there's just a whole 10 year period there. I don't remember. And you knew he was serious.
11:50🔗AdamRight. Super, super like it. Brooklyn, kind of just crazy voice and obnoxious. Right. I think he's been on this show. So that's your least favorite. Yeah. Who is this?
12:07🔗CallerNot too much, man. Thank you for answering my question. And I had another one for Dr. Drew and for your guest. Do you make any kind of say, you know, allowances for people that are on medication, if they're on Survivor, like if they have some kind of like blood pressure medication or something?
12:29🔗CallerYeah. If you, you know, if you smoke, you better get on Nicorette soon. If you, if you're a drinker, you know, you're gonna dry up. There's no help. You get condoms, tampons and sunscreen.
12:58🔗CallerI don't think anybody's ever had had full on sex, but I think it's a little bit of both. I think it's a liability issue, too.
13:05🔗AdamI saw the Rupert 69 episode. Well, that was tough to watch, Drew. Did you ever see that? Oh, yeah. Him and he, yeah, he he was on top of Johnny Fair Play. And it was almost unwatchable.
13:20🔗AdamYou're probably back at camp beating off or downloading some porn or doing some spearfishing or something. But you got to watch the show once in a while. It was controversial.
13:47🔗CallerBut you want him to get back up because you want to talk to him some more and then hit him and punch him.
13:51🔗AdamYeah. Yeah. And what about how often, by the way, for the something something like the All-Stars? I mean, I think it worked incredibly well. And people were into it in a big way, right?
14:07🔗CallerI just don't think you can play the game with all that personal baggage. These guys now know each other and guys like Hatch or Colby, those guys have no chance because people are irritated that they were so popular. Right. Rupert would be the first one voted out in the next All-Star.
14:26🔗AdamOh, interesting. So you're gone. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that. On the other hand, it's really fun to watch a game like, it's like your team when you know your players, you know? And it was really a good idea. And I don't think you do two in a row and I don't think you do one every other year, but certainly four or five years from now, you could pop another one out.
14:50🔗CallerI really think we'll be on four or five years from now.
14:53🔗AdamThe show, barring, you know, something horrific and a lawsuit, I don't see it ever going away. It's almost, it's like-
15:01🔗DrewBut then again, I don't see that not happening.
15:04🔗AdamOh, that's, yeah, yeah, no, no, that's probably this year, but just not saying anything. But it's like a game show in that it's a great format and as long as you have a solid host in yourself and a solid format in terms of the rules and how the show's structured, who, they're always gonna have hardcore fans. I just can't imagine it ever going away. At least, maybe I'm saying that for selfish reasons because I enjoy it so much. All right, let's talk to Dan real quick before we go to break. He has a question for Jeff, which I'm sure he's heard before, but ask again. Go ahead, Dan.
15:38🔗CallerYeah, I was wondering, this is for Jeff and Adam. If Jeff, has Survivor ever planned on having a celebrity Survivor and if so, Adam, would you do it?
15:50🔗CallerYeah. Well, in the beginning we did after season two, when it was really big and it beat friends and it was the most watched show, everybody was talking about that. And the problem was lining up schedules with actors who have little hiatus windows, but then they get a movie and they can't promise they'll do it and all that. We probably wouldn't do it now.
16:10🔗AdamNo. To me, the show has a sort of purity to it, and plus since then there's been other attempts at these sort of a celebrity get me out of here kind of debacles that fell flat on their face. Although, albeit you could argue that they didn't actually have Nikki Zuring's sister is not exactly what you call it.
16:29🔗CallerWell, and they caved into them. Those guys complained and got tense and then they complained and they got food.
16:37🔗AdamI would definitely consider it. I'm that big a fan of the show, but it is a hairy show. I mean, the idea, you know, we've just seen the bugs crawling around is enough to freak me out. But now I didn't know you got condoms. So, you know, that I could be back on. All right. I would definitely give some consideration here. The real question is, you wouldn't want it, but I'd be way down on the list of guys you'd be going after. Believe me, you would start at the top.
17:05🔗AdamWell, your fantasy answer would be, you know, John Travolta and whoever. But then realistically, that would never happen. And it'd probably be like, what, Bonaducchi said, no, get Corolla on the phone. That's how it would work.
17:56🔗DrewTonight, after having visited with our dear, dear, dear friend, Jeff Probst, we meet with Rob Schneider, another dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, friend. New Found Glory, Good Charlotte, Marilyn Manson. It's gonna be a good show.
18:14🔗AdamHey, everybody, it's Loveline. And Adam, that's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Rob Schneider's in studio tonight. He brought us both grenade-size avocados from his own tree.
18:38🔗AdamLet's put her on. The point is- Two o'clock in the morning over there? Rob has either picked himself or more likely had his assistant pick a large avocado.
19:29🔗AdamGood. By the way, you want to hear what a horrible cook my wife is? I walked in the kitchen one day, saw her peeling an avocado like it was an orange. I was like, Oh my God. She's like, What? I was like, Are you serious? Did you know I was going to walk in? Like I said, when I was masturbating and I said that I knew you were coming in and it was a joke. Is it that kind of thing? She's like, No, this is how you do it. I said, I'm going to kill your mom. This is horrible. By the way, speaking of traumatizing the wife, let me just say one thing. We get to bless in one second. Just remind me of something, Drew. You know, there's like we got every invention we need. It's like there's 32 different kinds of bottle openers, right? Cork pullers, wine bottle, but I don't need 32. I need like two good ones or even just one. When is the toilet timer flusher thing going to come in? My wife has now discovered the third big duke floating in the toilet with her. Here's what happens. I'm on the phone.
20:51🔗AdamShe gave me. It was pointing toward Macca. She gave me this one. She goes, I was in the living room and I was listening to a headphones and I was skipping rope and she came out in the hall and she just looked at me. She was like someone who was landing a carrier on a deck. She did the two fingers. Yes, yes. I said, what? And she goes, come here. She did the waving and I was doing, I'm like, I'm skipping rope. I'm like, what? She goes, and she starts guiding me in. She walks me all the way down the hall through the thing, walks me on the bed. What is this? Then just right down to the toilet. I'm like, all right. It's humiliating. But if I had the foot like.
21:27🔗CallerWell, you know what? You can have that same sound that you wanted for the cell phone. It's a zing, zing. That zing sound could tell her not to go into the toilet.
21:34🔗DrewNo, it's just a timer for the toilet. How about this?
21:40🔗AdamIt's just a pressure. It's a pressure switch, which is after your ass gets down on the seat. And if the cat jumps up on, it's not active. It's got to be more than like 70 pounds. It's the seat, right? Let's make it 60 for Asians. Okay. The ass hits the seat and it clicks on. Now, after the ass comes off the seat, it flushes within five minutes of that time. Maybe two minutes. That's it. That could never, because this happens all the time to me. And I don't know why, but I'm humiliated by it.
22:11🔗AdamMaybe I do. All right. All right, but this is a good invention, right?
22:15🔗DrewYeah, it's a great, it should be. Or maybe the way we flush, we push it down and it starts to slowly come up before it actually engages.
22:22🔗AdamNo, but the water, the flush moves the water.
22:24🔗CallerWhat you don't want is that loud noise while you're on the phone. Right. Telling the person on the other line, you're not important.
22:30🔗AdamI don't know what it is about having people thinking you're doing anything on the phone that's humiliating, like they call you at 4.30 in the morning, will you sleep? No, no, no. I'm right. I'm right. What is that in the background? Is that the TV? No, that's nothing. Just a car drove by. Are you smoking?
22:45🔗AdamWhy can't you do anything on the phone? You talk to your best friend, but he finds out you're taking a crap. It's a big deal.
22:50🔗CallerI know. I call my friend, Josh Leib, he's a comedy writer. This guy, I'm talking to him, and all of a sudden I hear something like, ding, ding. Are you in the bath right now? He says, yeah. He's perfectly comfortable. In the tub? In the tub.
23:18🔗AdamIt's 13 degrees in Wisconsin, and your question is?
23:22🔗I have a question. My boyfriend, we've been going together for about three years now. Lately, it's like he's trying to push me away, and I just don't understand why. And then it's like he'll like take fights with me.
23:37🔗DrewMelissa, here's the thing about relationships at your age.
23:41🔗CallerYeah, but like when he leaves me, like I leave him, I get sick of it or whatever, or he'll say, I don't want to be with you, and I just want to be friends. I'm like, okay, that's fine. And I'll get over it for like, I'll leave him alone for like a week, and then he'll call me and be like, I love you, I miss you, and this and that. And then it just cycles back and forth, and it's just like, I'm getting really sick of it, and like I've told him like so many times, I'm just like, you know.
24:08🔗CallerI love him, but I want to leave him, but it's just like when I do, and when I get comfortable like being by myself, you know, after the first week, it's just like, okay, you know, I can do something.
24:19🔗DrewOkay, a couple of things here. First of all, I think that I love him, but I want to get away from, I don't think that exists after 35. It's like, I'm done, I'm gonna get away.
24:30🔗AdamNow, you pray one of your friend's bones or says she leaves you alone.
24:33🔗CallerTake it easy on yourself because it's extremely common. Everyone, this is like the guy, he wants something else, the grass is greener, and a week later he realizes, you know, I got this though.
24:44🔗DrewDoes he have sex when he comes back with you? Yes. Okay. We'll stop that. Stop that and he'll stop coming back. That's what he's coming back for.
24:52🔗CallerIt's like, I need it too, you know, so it's like, okay, whatever.
24:57🔗AdamOkay, but let me make this analogy that Drew, you know, I don't know what the average time, you know, people quit drugs or cigarettes or booze or whatever it is they're trying to quit. It's three or four times before it takes. And the same with relationships. You've been with somebody for three years, especially, you know, she's 20, so she got to get 16, 17 years old. You break up and then you get back and then you break up and you get back. She was like three, two, three times before it actually takes. And as you get older, you just start realizing, hopefully, that when you break up the first time, maybe should just stick with that plan instead of bouncing back. But this thing is sort of, this is what happens when a relationship is sort of coasting to a stop. It's sort of like, you know what I'm saying?
25:42🔗CallerEventually, if you don't quit, he's going to quit.
25:44🔗AdamLike when a car's running out of gas, every once in a while, it catches, and it's like, you know, but it's running out of gas, but it'll catch every once in a while.
25:53🔗DrewBut you know what caused it finally to grind to a halt, right?
25:57🔗AdamHer love of avocados and living in Wisconsin.
25:59🔗DrewSomebody does something with somebody. Yeah, somebody finds somebody else. That's the power. It's just boom, now it's over. That's it.
26:05🔗AdamIt would be nice if there was an event that made it sort of, that you couldn't get past. You know what I mean?
26:12🔗CallerRight, right, but she hasn't set any boundaries in this relationship with this guy. She keeps taking him back, and so he gets what he wants, and then, you know, she's feeling like not the most high self-esteem in the world, so she keeps taking him back. And you just gotta find, if this is this the guy you really want to spend time with?
26:29🔗AdamYeah, just break up. And look, anyone who's been with anyone from 17 to 20 needs to break up anyway.
26:34🔗CallerRight, and it's good to, like, be alone for a while and to scare yourself, like, I don't know what I could be alone. It's good to explore the I-don't-know-what-it's-like-to-be-alone.
26:42🔗AdamRight. Plus, then what happens? You get engaged to somebody you've been sort of on and off with.
26:47🔗CallerYeah, yeah, yeah, you don't want that.
26:57🔗AdamHold on. I don't like this exporting of our fruits and vegetables to other places. You know, it used to be one of our things like, hey, Hawaiians had their pineapples. We had our avocados and we could laugh at other other cities and states. Now everyone's got something.
27:11🔗DrewEveryone's got everything, though. I've got a patient brings a bunch of Hawaiian papayas every time they come in and they brought a bunch and they are so good.
27:18🔗AdamIt's nice, but if you live in Hawaii, you've got to be angry. You've got to be angry about that.
27:45🔗CallerPineapple is also from Portugal. I mean, I'm sorry, from Brazil.
27:48🔗DrewThe Hawaiians make fun of the Portuguese?
27:49🔗CallerYeah, that's the person they make fun of. It's like the Chinese and the Hawaiians, and they make fun of the Portuguese. I don't know why. Just the way it works out.
28:35🔗AdamI bang the bejeeze out of my girlfriend eight times a day. So do you know what the problem is? It's like you got a boner, you idiot. Jack, awesome.
28:48🔗CallerProblem is it's too self-congratulatory towards you.
28:51🔗AdamHere's the reason, guys. Guys beat off before they go to bed, not because they can't do it or they won't, they have to do it or they won't be able to go to sleep. It's because they know it's going to be good eight hours before they can do it again. To me, it's like why you take a leak before you take a drive to San Francisco. You know you're in your car. You got to get one in. It's going to be down for a while.
29:11🔗DrewIt could happen, earthquake or something.
29:15🔗AdamMeteor. Let me give you an example. You didn't beat off and now like a missing piece of a sky lab goes right through your bedroom and crushes you.
29:29🔗CallerHere's what gets me. Here's what I always think about. Tonight, I was on the way over here. So you know, better pick up a little dinner. So I make my buddy drop, stop at a place and get some food. I'm going by the food section in Wild Oats there. And there's sushi. I'm thinking, if you're going to buy sushi at a supermarket, if it's a case, chances are it's not bad, but if it is bad, no one's going to feel sorry for you. What were you thinking getting sushi at a supermarket? Just like people who go out and do this parasailing in Mexico, and then they get killed throwing rocks. Well, what were you thinking parasailing in Mexico? So I'm always thinking of if what you're going to get sympathy from or not when you do something, sleeping with a Haitian hooker. What were you thinking without a condom?
30:14🔗AdamRight. And it is true that the fact that you're gone is secondary to what took you out.
30:22🔗AdamI'm convinced I'm going to be crushed by something frozen, a piece of food, like a pot roast.
30:27🔗CallerOr how about that gigantic, you know, when the ice that comes out of the toilet. Yeah, blue ice. No, the toilet from the plane. Yeah, blue ice.
30:34🔗CallerBlue ice, I don't know the term. What? It's the stuff, sometimes there's a leakage of the The blue ice, Drew. That'll be frozen at 30,000 feet from a plane and it's the blue, you know, The toilet stuff. From the toilet and it'll actually leak out from the plane and it will drop and be a chunk of ice and could just kill you.
30:54🔗AdamNo, no, no, it goes, went through a guy's boat and stuff. Well, here's the old thing about planes and boats and all forms of transportation before just a few years ago. Somebody was like, look, we're 30,000 feet in the air, why should we store a big barrel of poop to bring back with us to the airport, for Christ's sake?
31:14🔗CallerYeah, we're over the ocean, who's going to know?
31:16🔗AdamNot bringing macadamia nuts back from Hawaii, we got a big tub of, we got enough weight. First off, there's weight issues on the plane. Secondly, who wants a big tub of crap? Well, just we're over the Atlantic, we're 35,000 feet in the air, it's just dropping the ocean. Cruise liners used to do this too.
31:32🔗CallerTrains in Winnebago, it's just a hole, yeah.
31:34🔗CallerAnd in trains in Europe, they just dump it out?
31:36🔗DrewYeah, it's not a dump, it's just a hole. It's just right out of the trash.
31:40🔗AdamYeah, I think this, you know, maybe this, now people never did this back when they just rode bicycles. Did they just, a guy's just crapping, while they're riding that bike with the giant wheel.
31:50🔗CallerYeah, but in England, back in the middle ages, what they do, they just throw the crap over the fence. If I don't see it, if the neighbor doesn't throw it back, I'm sure I'm gonna put it.
32:09🔗AdamAll right, let's take ourselves a little break. Rob Schneider here tonight. We'll be right back. Hey, yo, it's Loveline, the best of Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Let's continue to power forward with what I think is already a little too much show for the kids. I mean, it's free. It's not like we're on satellite radio.
33:08🔗DrewPeople are having seizures as we speak, I'm sure of it.
33:10🔗AdamLet's hope so. Everyone enjoy New Found Glory. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Jordan and Chad here tonight from New Found Glory Catalyst.
33:55🔗DrewThe catalyst is an enzyme. And literally, it's an enzyme that lowers the energy necessary to make a chemical reaction.
34:00🔗AdamBut then you have... But you have like a... You know, when you have like a two-part polymer, you have the catalyst and the resin. The resin sits around, and then you add a few drops of the catalyst to it, and pow, it's activated. Yeah.
34:13🔗AdamThat's a fire start of that catalyst. That's what the short white guy hustles on the basketball team is. He's a catalyst. You don't put the ball in the hoop, but he gets the ball, he gets the fast break going.
34:24🔗DrewIn the biological system, I think of it as bringing things together to make the reaction occur.
34:28🔗CallerWhat do you think, with the name, with the cover art, it's all about what's going on right now?
34:32🔗AdamYeah, well, it looks great. Look at that. See that big painting. It's really amazing, amazing art. All right, let's... Chris, look up catalyst.
35:01🔗CallerThat's why she didn't want to have sex, because she was cheating, right?
35:04🔗CallerWell, that's what I'm thinking might be going on right now. I know that heroin sometimes causes sexual side effects, but we've always had wonderful sex life. That's why I'm saying it. I've never... And it just suddenly was so drastic about a week ago. And just like tonight, you know, she had a friend come in from out of town. She hasn't seen in a year. So she's out having dinner and seeing a movie with him and yada, yada, yada. And you know, she's always swearing up and down that nothing's going on, but she's always done.
35:34🔗CallerTrue, about three months, about three months.
35:38🔗DrewShe's not going to meetings or anything anymore, nothing like that, right? She's not going to meetings anymore or not talking to her sponsor.
36:45🔗AdamOkay. All right. Well, here's the whole thing. I don't want to sound like Pops Carolla here, but all bets are off while you guys are continuously getting high. I mean, the libido, the sex, the cheating, the whole thing.
36:59🔗DrewHis thing is why this week? Well, we know that she's cheated in the past. We know that she's chaotic. She's probably a trauma survivor. She may fluctuate between being hypersexual and completely shut down to sex. She may be cheating again. She may be having a medical problem. Maybe she's now got hepatitis. Maybe she got hepatitis C. Maybe she's got an endocarditis.
37:17🔗AdamDoesn't constant drug use eventually, doesn't everything eventually break into the libido and the sexual function?
37:27🔗DrewYeah. It usually isn't such an abrupt shutdown as Mike is pointing out. That's why he wants to know the solution now. He doesn't, but the sort of chilling thing for me is that his girlfriend is just an object for him.
37:47🔗AdamAll right. So Mike, you're a young guy. You sound like a smart guy. As a matter of fact, being smart sometimes screws you up more because you get up in your head and you think you can handle things and you think you can sort of outwill things using your IQ.
38:00🔗DrewI know I get endocrinitis. I can get hepatitis. I can die. How's he gonna be a counselor? So anyway, what are you gonna do?
38:08🔗DrewIt's blocking the experience of seeing yourself as you really are.
38:11🔗AdamAnd the people that really are affected by it are the stupid people. He's an intellectual. He's got it. He's got it figured out. All right. Well, good luck. Let's talk to Melissa. Oh, all right. So catalyst. Go ahead, Chris. You got it there, buddy?
38:27🔗Yeah, one that precipitates a process or event, especially without being involved in or changed by the consequences.
38:35🔗AdamAnd that's what you're going to get if you get the New Found Glory CD, everybody. Do you hear that? Precipitating a process or an event. Read that again.
39:17🔗AdamAnd half a half a decibel louder, Chris, that's not that that's not bringing something home. Do you know what I'm saying? You want to get behind the mic, buddy? You got to really learn to punch it up a little bit. You know what I'm saying?
39:30🔗DrewYou don't have to, my friend. I'm I'm in with his brother. Oh, yeah.
39:34🔗AdamYeah. As long as your brother's given Drew 30 cents worth of free Java once every six months.
39:51🔗CallerWe were at a signing today and every signing, you know, every signing we do at a store or label will be like, all right, you can pick out four items, you know, to take from tower to buy six. Ian's four items are like the Sopranos box set. Yeah.
40:07🔗CallerI got the Battlestar Galactica box set tonight.
40:10🔗CallerThat's going to be worse something, wasn't it?
40:12🔗CallerIan picked like the shameless. The $70 Schindler's List special package.
41:14🔗CallerMy question is, like, every guy that I've ever liked or all the guys I've ever gone out with have been a-holes to me. And I want to know why. Is there, like, I was molested when I was little.
41:31🔗DrewTrauma, trauma, things that are traumatizing and shattering in childhood become source of attraction in adolescence. That becomes, you're, like, drawn to it.
41:40🔗CallerYeah, but, see, I'm in therapy now and it's not helping at all. It just seemed to be getting worse.
41:46🔗DrewIt will, it'll take about six to eight years and it will help.
41:50🔗AdamYou'll be in your early 40s. You'll just pass menopause.
41:53🔗DrewNo, it takes a long time. And during that time, the therapist will help you make some better choices and you'll see what you feel like with that.
42:18🔗CallerI've been having a lot of panic attacks lately, like short breath. And I could, all I can think about is just, you know, when I was little and just a lot of stuff has happened and I can't seem to, you know, get out of that frame of mind for like an hour.
42:44🔗DrewOkay. You may talk, be sure to talk about the panic because both of those medicines can make you sort of prone to panic. So maybe a switch ahead.
44:08🔗AdamYou know what I appreciate when I'm going down on a lady who's going to whiz a little heads up. If you ever watched the war movies, the guys in the machine gun nest, one guy's working the machine gun, the other guy's feeding a cartridge or the banana clip in there. When he gets it locked and loaded, he does it on the top of the head.
44:26🔗AdamThat means it's time to start firing behind. They do it with the bazooka. Guy loads it in the back, pat on the head, trying to fire. I need that.
45:11🔗AdamYeah. Usually something freakishly off a pier that's exploding. The big explosion when I'm going in the water. Yeah. New Found Glory here tonight. Yeah. See, it doesn't work. There we go. We're going to take ourselves a little break. We'll be right back after this. Hey, everyone, it's Loveline, the best of Loveline that is. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Drew.
46:18🔗DrewYeah, we're happy, we're not here. And not only that, but the show is representing tonight most of our dearest, dearest of friends.
46:23🔗AdamThat's right. Where are you right now, Drew?
46:26🔗AdamSun Valley, Idaho. Oh, yeah. Beautiful. Yes. Let's keep moving forward with the best of. And this is a little band called Good Charlotte. Yo, everybody. I'm Adam. Yo, Benji both here from Good Charlotte. You guys were pretty pissed about us playing their song last break. Thanks a lot. And we had to coax them both back into the studio because they tore up the lobby pretty good.
46:58🔗AdamHey, hey, Anderson, seriously, I don't want these guys to flip on me. Hey, I got to sit in the studio with these motherfuckers. You understand? I don't want to crack in my skull. Sorry, guys.
47:25🔗CallerThe one where you did a bit about being a gasoline boy.
47:29🔗AdamOh, yeah. I was at the gas station. Hold on a second. Drew, do you remember when we were doing media training? I sit around, I think, over the weekend. I stew about this over the weekend. When we were first starting Loveline, the TV show, and our idiot, idiot, and the horrible, and these publicists, horrible, rotten, rotten, vile people were telling us we had to kill a Saturday doing media training, and we had to do mock interviews and answer questions and be trained how to answer questions in an interview situation. What did I say, Drew?
48:03🔗AdamWaste of time. Let's go. I stood up in the middle of it and I said, let's go. What are we doing here? It's beautiful outside. Let's leave. But no, not Drew.
48:56🔗CallerYeah, that's great. Go ahead. Okay, I masturbate like once or twice a week. And then I have orgasms, I have sometimes two or three. And that's really great. And I'm okay with that. But sometimes when I go to the bathroom, like especially when I'm at school, I have these like little mini intense orgasms. And I make little funny noises when I'm in the bathroom.
49:18🔗Best OfAnd you can't control that. Funny noises like you're making on the phone?
49:22🔗CallerNo, not that, like, you know, just sometimes like, like something like that or like, or, you know.
49:28🔗Best OfAnd you're telling us for what reason? Like, what are you calling to ask? You're undoing why this happens. You're just trying to, like, entertain some guys over the radio?
49:53🔗DrewSo, what's the deal? Well, you're asking...
49:55🔗CallerI'm asking if that's normal, or if I need to be checked out for that.
50:00🔗DrewNo, you don't need to be checked out for it. I bet you have that happen sort of like for the day or so after you've masturbated, is that right? You're more likely to do that then?
50:36🔗CallerHi. Well, basically, my boyfriend and I pretty much broke up because he thinks I'm cheating and I'm not. I never have. I'm extremely faithful.
50:56🔗CallerWell, I mean, I can understand where he's coming from. When we first were going out, we were very sexually active. And now it's gotten to I just don't get turned on anymore. It's not him. I'm just not able to get horny anymore. And when we first met, I had just been involved in stripping.
51:58🔗AdamBut hold on. I would argue that stripping doesn't make you feel bad or hate men.
52:03🔗CallerIt's wanting to strip. Give your previous position to hate guys already.
52:07🔗DrewWhat it is is that you're sexually abused when you're growing up or physically abused. Which was it for you, both?
52:13🔗CallerUm, it was... Well, I don't know what you'd consider. It was more involved with a couple of boys that were a little older than I was, and they just kind of humiliated me.
52:24🔗DrewYeah. So it's probably something even happened before that. So anyway, be that as it may. Be that as it may. So then a way of trying to empower herself is to get involved in this situation where she is the focus of the attention using her sexuality control men. Then they hate men for participating with them in this thing that makes them feel so demeaned. So it's a never-ending cycle.
52:51🔗Best OfYou know what's interesting is every girl who's ever had some kind of like, whether they stripped or whether they were like crazy party bisexual girl or any of those girls that are crazy like have that kind of alter like the stripping lifestyle or whatever. Girls gone wild. They never have, there's always something more to their, there's always something more, you know what I mean?
53:11🔗AdamOh, yes. It's the opposite of what they show.
53:38🔗AdamIt's not relevant. You're lucky, you got to catch a bullet there.
53:41🔗CallerBlah, blah, blah, blah, Gabby coming to stage.
53:45🔗AdamShe got manhandled by a couple older guys when she was 12 years old. Feeling bad about herself, doesn't like her dad. But don't worry, Jets, that's gonna translate next. Your horny lap dance is for you.
54:05🔗DrewBut there's a couple things there. One is that that whole sexual piece of you. It's dissociated from everything else. Because it's now re-traumatized and cut off from, it's not integrated into who you are. And then you have all these kind of conflicted feelings about men, and your boyfriend obviously represents that. So you're sort of dissociated from yourself. So it's time to get a little help.
54:25🔗AdamGet a little therapy and just stop locking horns with your boyfriend about who's cheating and who's not. You're not doing it. I don't trust this guy completely. Does he wear cowboy boots?
54:37🔗CallerI just, you know, I've heard several people tell me.
54:42🔗DrewWhat about wife fetus? Several people tell you. Several people tell you.
54:45🔗CallerThey tell me that usually when someone accuses you of something like that, they're the one that's doing it. Yeah.
54:53🔗DrewSometimes. At the very least, it's what he would do if he were in your place, probably. And so, you know, thinking like you, he figures you must.
55:00🔗AdamOh, okay. But here's the whole deal. Gabby, don't get focused on him. Just focus.
55:05🔗CallerI mean, should I just, if he's like, can't trust me, I should just be able to get home.
55:09🔗AdamDon't get over it. But here's the deal. You need some therapy.
55:15🔗AdamYeah. But stop focusing on him, okay? So. Shut up. That's enough. Jesus Christ. Just get some therapy. Look, you know, people are screwed up, get hooked up with people that are more screwed up than they are, so they don't have to look at themselves. It's like, hey, I found the one person that's more effed up than I am, so I can spend all my attention on them, and I'll never have to look in the goddamn mirror.
55:44🔗Well, I've been around with this girl for about six months now, and she only likes it, you know, we've done it the regular way once, that was the first time, and during that, she asked me to do it that way, and ever since then, she hasn't really wanted it the other way. I was just wondering if it was me, her, or what?
56:05🔗DrewIt's her, that's her, that's what she likes.
56:16🔗AdamI was saying, I wouldn't take that as a compliment, if she was like, I can't feel it when you're over there.
56:21🔗I can't have an orgasm unless something is in my ass.
56:26🔗AdamTrue testimonial. All right, so that's the way she likes it. Do you like it that way?
56:31🔗I mean, it's cool or whatever, but I prefer the other way. But I mean, whatever she likes is cool with me. As long as she's satisfied, it's all good.
56:39🔗AdamAll right. Well, why don't you tell her, though, maybe that, say, baby, maybe, say this for a special occasion.
56:46🔗AdamYeah. Holidays, Easter, things like that.
56:50🔗I've hinted it or whatever. It's like, hey, have a good touch.
56:57🔗Best OfSo I've heard about this other way that they got, that the kids are doing it here.
57:02🔗AdamHey, did you see that article in Cosmo? There's this other hole they found.
57:07🔗Best OfShe's leaving like a porn letter out.
57:09🔗AdamOh, look, look at what they're doing. This doctor found a second hole. They called, apparently, it's the one babies come out of. I just heard, I was just talking to some friends and anyway, Kurt said maybe we should try that hole.
58:49🔗AdamYes, he started the whole zipline thing and then James Bond and then any guy named James, you said, is the main form of transportation. They're hard to figure out, though, saying...
58:58🔗Best OfWhen I was 10, a pulley fell on my head.
59:02🔗Best OfI looked it up to the clothesline. We found this old thing in like the dump, you know, like the garbage and big pulley and this big like 20 pound pulley and we hooked it up to the clothesline.
59:22🔗CallerYeah, and so I'm on crutches for three months and like I can stand and everything. I'm supposed to be like non-weight bearing on my right side cause that's where it broke most of the way.
59:31🔗DrewOh, so you, do you know what part of the pelvis you broke?
59:34🔗CallerI broke the right side and they had a pin and plate it and then I broke the front part.
59:58🔗AdamNo, I would have hate to have been there. I would have been laughing and then eventually I would have stopped laughing and then it would have been like, oh no, you would have been, you were screaming bloody murder, right?
1:01:09🔗Best OfYou've got plenty of years ahead of you. Just take your time.
1:01:11🔗DrewAt 19, you've got to wait, you know what I mean? Yeah.
1:01:13🔗CallerMy other question was, earlier, you were talking about this girl, and she was hospitalized when she was five or something. And now she's helpless or whatever. But I was diagnosed with cancer when I was 16, and ever since then, during my whole time in the hospital and all my treatments and everything, I was really passive, and I just let him do whatever to get it done. And ever since then, I've kind of been passive, and I don't really say no. I don't know. I have a hard time saying no.
1:01:43🔗DrewWell, it's interesting that imagine if that had happened to you when you were eight, how ingrained into your makeup. Five. Five in her case.
1:02:50🔗AdamYeah. There she was a little weakened and then she took the spill off the zip line. And zip line is one of the things that seems like the world's greatest idea, but there's two things that can happen. Either you can let go when it's at the top or you could not let go and just go blasting into whatever it's tied to.
1:04:05🔗AdamNo, that's hardcore. That's hardcore. You're punk now. No, this guy's run hold for 102 minutes and you told him to beat it. That's hardcore. And don't apologize and don't backbite. Don't go, no, no, no. seriously, that's cool. That's not hardcore. You don't care. Let me tell you what hardcore is. You don't spit on the audience and then go wipe it off their face. You know what I'm saying? You spit on them. Julia, 35.
1:04:33🔗CallerMy daughter stays up all night in her room. I thought for two nights and then it's like the next day or she just wants to sleep all the time and won't go to school. Oh, boy. It's just like grouchy.
1:04:57🔗CallerDad is basically, he's on drugs himself.
1:05:00🔗DrewOkay. So she has a history of addiction in her family. So there's about a 50% probability that that's what we're dealing with, just with that history.
1:05:07🔗AdamAlso, she could just be really angry about dad and depressed and all that.
1:05:11🔗DrewAbsolutely, but there's a 50-50 chance that she's got that gene going. And when anybody with that genetic history, if in fact she has it, starts behaving strangely, you gotta think of things for her.
1:05:21🔗AdamWell, there's a 50-50 chance of her having genes, that gene, but only a 25% chance of her actually being in the dope out of the 50%. See what I'm saying, Julie?
1:05:31🔗CallerYeah, I totally understand. I didn't know if I should take her somewhere or...
1:05:47🔗AdamNo, I'm trying to figure out drug addict dad. Yes, I will, but would you listen to me for a second? Your husband, her dad, he's out and about.
1:06:10🔗AdamOkay, but don't give me that. The out and about answer sounds like he ran down to the corner to grab a six pack. That's true. True, true. All right, Julie. So no contact with him whatsoever. No. Okay. What's your daughter's name? Jackie. All right, put Jackie on.
1:06:24🔗CallerWake her up and put her on the phone.
1:07:10🔗AdamYeah, sure. Your mom's standing right there holding a rolling pin. Of course, I wouldn't do drugs either if Julie was there holding a rolling pin. But listen, Jackie, here's what I want to say overall, because we're not going to get to the bottom of what you're doing and all this kind of stuff with mom hanging by the radio. Here's the deal. You're probably a little angry at your father.
1:07:32🔗AdamAnd you should be angry at your father because he abandoned the family. And that doesn't mean you're a bad person. I know that's the way it feels in a way, like, oh, you could have done something. It means he's a bad guy. It's all to do with him.
1:07:47🔗AdamYou know, it's like a war. It's like an American guy kills a Japanese guy in World War II, nothing personal. Just firing a gun, that's his job. It's not that he hated his family or anything. This is it. Your dad's a bad guy. He's gone. Now, don't punish your mom for your dad being a bad guy.
1:08:06🔗AdamAnd don't punish yourself, but especially your mom. Your mom, I know you get in a lot, you got a lot of anger, you got a lot of feelings, you guys argue a lot. Your mom loves you. She's trying to do what's best for you. You're on the same side. Trying to take care of you. She hung in. She's the parent that's stuck by you. Your dad took off. He took the easy route. Your mom, she stood by you. She's done the best she could with you. She's calling our show because she's concerned about you. Please understand that your mom loves you and she's trying to do some good for you. And please help her help you.
1:08:45🔗DrewBut Jackie, don't screw up now. Listen, don't miss school. Don't get so depressed that you put yourself into a hole that you can't get out of. You're sort of on the launching pad of life right now. Yeah, but she's setting up a trajectory. But my point is go the next step. Don't just crap on yourself and your mom. Go ahead and take care of yourself. If you are depressed, get treatment, get looked at. Get things taken care of so you can get on that launching pad and have a nice lift off.
1:09:10🔗Best OfThey're just bad. Don't be scared to go talk to someone.
1:09:14🔗AdamHere's the part that really angers me about the dads is they never really get punished and instead of having kids that hate their guts and resent them their whole life, all they have is these daughters who long idealize them and long for them and they become these horrible teenagers and they sit there and scream at their poor moms who are like we've been working two jobs and trying to take care of them.
1:09:38🔗Best OfYeah, our dad took off when we were about 14. He finally left fully when we were 16, I guess, yeah, like late 15, early 16, like he took off for good. Totally didn't know where he went. Still don't know to this day. Haven't seen him talk to him. And I mean, it's giving me about 75% of my song matter, subject matter to write about songs. So that's a good thing. But other than that, it was pretty much all bad that came with it. And it took me, I was hard on my mom. You know, same situation as Jackie and Julie.
1:10:06🔗DrewDo you, would you crap on her because you felt she was somehow, should have protected you from that?
1:10:10🔗Best OfNo, I don't even think about it. We were just, I hated everyone. I hated every kid that had a dad, every kid that, you know, I was just pissed at everyone.
1:10:18🔗AdamSo your dad's dad, you guys' dad, just split.
1:10:44🔗Best OfSo that was, he started, I guess that was a big frustration for him. So when things got really bad, when she'd go in the hospital and stuff, he'd take off.
1:10:52🔗AdamSo he eventually bailed, and if not, no contact since. Not at all. He's not made an effort.
1:10:59🔗Best OfWhen finally it took, like, by the time, when he left, finally when we were 16, it took by the time when I was 20, 20 for the courts to finally give my mom a divorce.
1:11:10🔗Best OfSo I was like, you know what, I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna be a man and go to court with my mom and try to, like, support her. And I saw him then, and he was like, as far as, like, right here, and he walked by and didn't say anything.
1:11:39🔗Best OfLike, my whole goal in life, I mean, I really love what I'm doing. I love, you know, punk rock. I love rock and roll. I love being in band touring. But my whole goal in life is to have kids.
1:12:04🔗DrewAnd how are they doing? The brothers and sisters.
1:12:06🔗Best OfThey're, um, we all have our own share of, like, you know. They're great, though. They're great. Great people. You know, they've turned into really great people.
1:12:14🔗Best OfI mean, if you've met my brother or younger sister. If you've met my brother or my sister, everyone says this to me, that he is the best guy, she's the best girl I've ever met. You know, like, they're the best people.
1:12:24🔗AdamThey can be great people and still have.
1:12:25🔗Best OfWe've all got our problems, you know. We're lucky enough to have songwriting. I'd suggest therapy for them, and they don't listen to me. But, you know, I have therapy in my own songwriting. It's very, like, a big release. I suggest therapy for myself. I just, I'm not willing to pay for it. For Binge, too. He needs to go. I'm just kidding.
1:12:38🔗AdamDrew, uh, I suggested therapy for Drew. He said, all right, and he suggested it for me. And I said, fine, and we pay for each other's therapy.
1:12:45🔗Best OfSee, my problem is I want to go to the lady on The Sopranos, but she's not available.
1:12:50🔗AdamLet's take ourselves a little break. Good Charlotte, our guest tonight. See, that's what I love about this show. You're heading down one path and then pow, pow, pow. Let's take ourselves a quick break and we'll be right back.
1:13:04🔗CallerIf you need help, hang up, and then die, die.
1:14:35🔗AdamWell, here's scary, but probably true. But if you think about it, when the phone rings, there's a 10 percent chance it's going to be something you want to hear. 80 percent chance it's going to be something you really don't care about. Then the 10 percent where it's going to be some tragedy or something like, you know, grandma passed. It's the middle of the night kind of thing. But really, if you think about it, what are you going to do? You know what I mean?
1:15:53🔗AdamYeah, we should have just kept it easy and obvious. But let me just say this. It was, when's the last time we saw a potato bug? Remember this huge, they're like beetles. They've got this big round heads and those pinchers, mandibles in front of them.
1:16:10🔗CallerThey're massive. Not in any time recently.
1:16:11🔗DrewI had a dream about one of those last night.
1:16:35🔗AdamI have crickets, yes. I call them Jerusalem, I would call them potato bugs too. I hadn't seen one since my childhood. I found one today and they're so big that they actually make noise when they walk and you can't crush a potato bug.
1:17:06🔗AdamWould that work? Putting salt on them?
1:17:09🔗CallerI don't know but my keyboard player told me that if you're ever worried about someone when you're having sex, he'd squirt a lemon on a girl when he was going down below. And if she screamed...
1:18:05🔗AdamI wanted to. I was trying to get rid of this potato bug. And all I could do is sort of try to get it to go up on this little piece of wood and then I was going to fling it sort of out of the room. But I ended up shooting it like a hockey puck, you know, and I just kept it just slide and bang and it was something and I just don't feel bad for it. But you can't crush it. I didn't know what to do with it.
1:18:32🔗AdamYes. But I just thought, you know, that's the biggest insect there is and not just size-wise, but just volume, like water displacement test potato bug, about the size of a raccoon.
1:18:50🔗AdamThat's erect. That's erect. But the round, the big round head with the eyes, big eyes there in the mandible there. All right, Drew. Drew had a dream about a potato bug.
1:20:16🔗CallerYeah. And then ever since then, I've had bad vaginal itching. I went back to the doctor. She thought it was a bacterial infection. I was on antibiotics. That didn't work. So I went back again. And she gave me another prescription. And then I had the same problem. And now I don't have insurance. So I'm waiting till I can go back to see her.
1:20:38🔗DrewOr you want any hormones, birth control pill, anything like that?
1:21:31🔗AdamHey, oh, yeah, let me say this, by the way. I don't know why it reminded me, but once a year, somebody models a $10 million Victoria's Secret bra.
1:21:54🔗DrewWell, but I'm looking, I've just pulled out an article that they published in the New England Journal a couple of months ago about chronic vulvovaginal cancer. It's a chronic yeast infection. And this article talked about how frequent that is. For some women, it takes quite a bit more to clear it up than just the usual yeast creams. They're actually recommending a medicine called fluconazole or diflucan. And that's something you gotta get from a doctor or a clinic.
1:22:20🔗AdamI also have at the coin op car wash, I think, too. You just hit the button.
1:22:26🔗DrewYeah, Planned Parenthood. And you can make sure you document exactly what you've had done, what you've tried. But weekly diflucan has been associated with a cure for this kind of thing, if it is in fact due to Canada.
1:23:34🔗AdamAnd I imagine maybe it'd feel like we're in a back, like, you know, the guys who work at the lumberyard have their lower back brace thing. Maybe it's that.
1:23:41🔗CallerWell, when Dita wears it, she gets it down to 16 inches. Her waist.
1:23:47🔗CallerI met this guy, Mr. Pearl, who makes corsets. He's very famous. His waist is 12 inches, but he can't take the corset off because your body shapes to it. Yeah. Well, that's really serious.
1:23:57🔗AdamCan't take it off. Is he asleep in it?
1:23:59🔗CallerIt's uncomfortable to take it off because his organs hurt.
1:24:02🔗CallerIt hurts your back like it hurts a lot.
1:24:03🔗AdamSo if you take it off, your liver will come out, your urethra or something?
1:24:07🔗CallerI don't know, but that's extreme corsetry. So you were going to ask?
1:24:14🔗CallerI wanted to know which ones work the best.
1:24:30🔗CallerYeah, not the ones that are like, fast produced?
1:24:33🔗CallerNo, you know, and it doesn't have to be expensive, but the ones that are made by someone who knows what they're doing, because it has to be a corset maker that makes them. What would you give them? And the boning that's in them is very important, that it's correct, so that you can move in it. It's not, you know, it gives you damage.
1:24:53🔗CallerYou could find antique ones on eBay, but there's a lot of different places. I think if you wrote to Dita, at dita.net, she would be the best to ask, because I always have worn medical ones, and I wear them improperly, kind of down around the hip.
1:25:48🔗AdamWell, get that with the corset. You got a woman there. You got a woman. All right, let's take a little bit of a break. Marilyn Manson in studio tonight. New CD is out. It's Best Of. We'll hear something else off of that and talk to him after this.
1:26:49🔗AdamGot a new CD out, it's a best of, it's called Lest We, or Ye Forget.
1:26:57🔗CallerLest We Forget. Oh yeah, which is a kind of a war memorial, you know, lest we forget or we repeat the past. Right. Kind of my musical document of the war that I've struggled through the 10 years to get from, you know, to where I am.
1:27:40🔗CallerI think, you know, Sweet Dreams was a best clip on MTV and then Beautiful People. But the real problem started around the Inside Christ Superstar when there was a lot of Christian groups creating a tremendous amount of false rumors that really put my life in danger. So I became completely nihilistic and went, you know, I figured if I'm gonna get shot, I'm at least gonna enjoy it.
1:28:12🔗AdamIt's interesting. You never, I mean, you know, maybe I'm being naïve, but Drew, if he's honest, will probably agree with me, which is, I never really thought about the danger part of what you were doing. I mean, we just assumed, oh, these these fundamental wackos are pissed off or low. Look at Maryland selling tickets.
1:28:29🔗CallerWe literally, besides the protesting part, which is right, not as hard. There was so many death threats, at least a hundred every show. We would have maybe 35 police with bomb dogs every night.
1:28:43🔗DrewIf you forget, you were in Oregon State when I got attacked by a guy from outside of a team down a stadium to rush the stage.
1:28:57🔗CallerThis tour is kind of bringing back a lot of those memories because we're playing some of these songs we haven't in a while. But I'm actually gonna be in Denver on election night. And last time I was there.
1:29:07🔗CallerWas when I did the interview for Bling for Columbine.
1:29:10🔗AdamWell, I got a couple of thoughts. So one is, yeah, I forgot about the part where you, you know, Larry Flint's in a wheelchair because people didn't like what he did, you know? And he was supposed to be in the ground. And he just, he's lucky and he's in a wheelchair. So I never really thought about that aspect of what you do. The other part is, is as I was talking to someone in a smaller way, but some of the same, some of the same details, which is like when we did the Man Show, we get a lot of complaints and then eventually you just become the Man Show or you become Howard Stern or you become Marilyn Manson, which is then expected out of you and you get to do it. You know what I'm saying?
1:29:55🔗AdamBecause now you're Marilyn Manson, that's what you do and Howard Stern does what he does in a smaller way when we did the Man Show. Oh, that's it. And Loveline, that's what you do too. At the beginning, it's always what gives you the right and who the hell do you think you are and what do you know and we're gonna do this. And now you just become that. So, do you feel that?
1:30:12🔗CallerI knew that when I did it and that's what I wanted. That's what I still want.
1:30:17🔗AdamBut you don't get nearly as much crap now as you did 10 years ago, do you?
1:30:23🔗CallerIt's different. It comes and goes in different ways. And this tour is called Against All Gods because it's now being me seems less evil in some ways considering war being raged over religion and things like that.
1:30:40🔗AdamI would argue though that it's you are accepted the same way Howard Stern is accepted now and you're just become part of the landscape. You become the fabric of the culture and you're supposed to do right.
1:30:53🔗CallerThe two words, Marilyn and Manson, were my way of summing up American culture. Now that I'm part of it, I think people don't understand me more necessarily, but they see me in some ways, especially after Bowie for Columbine, as an artist and not just an undescribable entity that's causing problems. They see me as a...
1:31:14🔗AdamAnd he's made, you know, he's not like a flash in the pan, like a sister soldier or someone like that, you know what I mean? He's stood the test of time.
1:31:25🔗CallerPeople have been saying for ten years, aren't you worried that your image is overshadowing the music? And I'm always like, I'm worried that the music's overshadowing my image. Well, it's all in one because what I do is not just one thing. It's how people react to it. It's this interview. It's the way I look.
1:31:44🔗AdamIs there a performance art element of it? Do you ever look at it that way?
1:31:49🔗CallerYeah, I look at it like Salvador Dali. He was like, his best creation was being Salvador Dali. I like it. It's like being a kid, living a fantasy, not being ashamed or afraid to do it.
1:32:13🔗DrewI think I'm very excited about the pictures we just looked at.
1:32:16🔗CallerYou really get conditioned to think that that's wrong. You know, to daydream, to fantasize, to do those things.
1:32:23🔗AdamYeah. Look, I never really thought about the aspect of going out on stage and thinking that some religious, fundamentalist wacko, the same guys that are shooting abortion clinic doctors might put the crosshairs on your forehead.
1:32:38🔗CallerOh, yeah. Well, I know that every day I step out of my house at that that could happen.
1:32:43🔗AdamBut now not is is it as acute as it was eight years ago? I mean, there must have been a time when it was really a much more serious threat.
1:32:52🔗CallerAntichrist superstar, I think, was a little bit more to the point for them. So it inflamed them immediately.
1:33:28🔗AdamLook, it's the same with everyone hates you. Yeah, it's bad, too. But it's the same with women, though. The worst you could have is someone is just sort of indifferent. Like when you like some chick best. She either hates you or his head over heels for you, which you don't want to say, huh, who?
1:33:53🔗AdamHold up, Nietzsche. We got to take a break. Marilyn Manson in studio tonight. Now, Marilyn was just, you're going to hang for an abbreviated period of time. But you'll hang for one more break, won't you?
1:34:23🔗AdamWe'll take ourselves a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Wow, never felt so good at the end of the show, Drew. I want to thank Marilyn Manson and Good Charlotte, New Found Glory and Rob Schneider, and Jeff Probst. What a show. And you, of course, for listening. So until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.
1:35:17🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or the station. The producer for Loveline is Annie Gold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.