1:12🔗VoiceoverHey, everybody, it's Loveline, I'm Adam Carolla, that is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist and I clipped something else on the freeway on the way in tonight.
1:40🔗DrewOne thing I've noticed though, have you ever noticed about yourself? You know how you've been working hard lately, you've been getting up in the morning, you've been complaining about it every night here.
1:47🔗AdamRight, right, I do a lot of complaining, yeah.
1:49🔗DrewYeah, when you're having to work like that every day, you can be a colossal a-hole at night time.
2:11🔗AdamYeah, if they could come over to my place, get filming around noon.
2:15🔗DrewOh man, can you imagine that? Hey, hey, I wanna show you something, come on down here. Let's hit the heavy bag for a couple of minutes. I'll just pee over here in the corner of the bucket a little bit. All right, let's go.
2:47🔗AdamAnd then, you know, there's a squirrel out on a branch through the window and it's like eating a nut. It's like crunch, crunch, crunch. And then what they do is they break off into squares. It starts circling my head.
3:01🔗AdamThat's right, that's right. Drew punching the microphone repeatedly, rattling empty cans, Anderson playing insulting drops, Drew chomping on saltines into the mic. Yeah. All right. Well.
3:17🔗DrewSo it's over. Your work, your stint's over.
3:19🔗AdamWell, I got a decent day tomorrow, but then we're doing Mad TV tomorrow. Me and Jimmy. And then that's it. But today, yeah, up at six. My God, it is dark at 630 in the morning, everybody.
4:30🔗DrewThey don't like it. They're offended. They call the screeners and his whole family.
4:33🔗AdamNo, listen, your job is not to cut the calls off when we're talking to people, you a-holes. Jesus Christ, what the F you think we're running here? Are you kidding me?
4:48🔗AdamThat's what we're doing. Well, listen, seriously, if the guy says, you know, uses some profanity, cut him off, but you don't just edit the calls.
5:14🔗CallerWell, I was over at my friend's house with a bunch of friends. We were having a good time. We got in his hot tub. And we're up here in Minnesota, right? So there's snow on the ground all the time. And his hot tub's outdoors. So we have these snow contests. You know, so you can roll in the snow the longest. You can run the farthest.
7:16🔗DrewI think it's worthwhile discussing it. And so if you do get in any trouble, she can be alert. Because things can happen. No, Adam says no. Wait till there's trouble, then tell her.
7:26🔗AdamWhy do you have to give him a heads up? If there's trouble.
7:29🔗DrewYou don't have to, but when she does the exam, she can look around for abscesses and things.
7:32🔗AdamDrew, would you want a heads up from one of your patients?
9:07🔗DrewYou know what you don't do out here that we used to do in New England, believe it or not, was hot chocolate and schnapps. That was a big drink in New England.
10:22🔗CallerI just moved from Arizona to Oregon to get away from a lot of problems. I thought I could change and get up here and deal with them.
10:31🔗AdamListen, you cannot run from your problems. You must nap from them like I do.
10:36🔗DrewDoing a geographic, you don't do that. But listen, what was this sexual effect you were getting from the speed?
10:42🔗CallerFor stamina. I had noticed for me and a couple of my friends too.
10:47🔗DrewIt's not stamina. It's just sort of a shutdown. Yeah. It's delayed ejaculation.
10:54🔗CallerI was just wondering what would be the long-term side effects?
10:58🔗DrewWell, you can get... Speed will eventually do something very similar to what ecstasy does. It burns out the cells in the limbic system of the brain, and you end up with memory problems and chronic depression.
11:09🔗AdamYou can lose your six-month-old and your wife in one bedroom, too.
11:13🔗DrewThe addiction will take all that away from you, but purely the biological effects of the speed can damage the brain.
11:47🔗AdamHypothetically, Springfield. What are the chances of you getting your phone book and your book of the anatomy and setting it down in front of you before each show?
12:01🔗AdamNo, no. We end up getting in the argument. Give me the anatomy book. No, I don't want to give it to you. Get it. Well, you need a little cheat sheet, Drew.
12:19🔗CallerYeah. I know it's kind of sad that I'm calling you with this problem, but I've been listening to you guys since 96 in Phoenix, Arizona. It's funny.
12:40🔗AdamNow you're 20, you got a six-month-old and you're a junkie. Drew, nice work. Hope you should feel good about yourself there, buddy.
12:47🔗DrewJeremy sure feels good at the point of his-
12:48🔗AdamYou're really earning your money. That wasn't meant toward you, buddy. That was meant toward Drew. All right, buddy. Open that phone book and do us proud. All right. Would you take care of yourself? It really looks bad on our record. I've got someone who's been listening to the show since they were 15, probably a straight arrow before you got to this show and now you're all messed up. So pick up that phone book and make that call, all right? All right.
13:22🔗AdamYeah. I was going to get some monogram kid slippers with that. The Spiegel catalog. $378. Kids. No, kid. Kid. Like lamb. Kid gloves. It's kid.
14:54🔗DrewAnd these days, most people treat it with a single dose of an antibiotic called azithromycin. And I'm curious to what they'd be using to treat her that would take more than a single dose and what else they might think is going on. So if I were you, I'd wait until she completes her antibiotics before I did anything. Okay. And then she's tested and cleared. God, guys are amazing.
15:17🔗DrewShe's got three days left of antibiotics. Can we just get on with it now?
15:21🔗AdamCan I do her anally or do her mom or something? I mean, we are talking about 72 hours. Drew, how does this work? When you're sleep deprived, you want to just like smoke and eat and drink. Like there's something that makes you just want to do. You know when you get drunk and you think it's a good idea at 4 AM to go out and get a chili burger, and chain smoke and drink some more and then eat some chili fries?
16:05🔗AdamGet up at six? I'm famished. I mean, I'm like, I'm weak. I don't know if I'm gonna make it out to the car.
16:12🔗DrewThere's probably multiple factors. One is you're interrupting a sleep cycle and what you're experiencing is hunger. Who knows what that has to do with your sleep mechanism.
16:19🔗AdamYou're dreaming about a breakfast burrito.
16:22🔗DrewYour biology is off. Secondly, I believe when you're fatigued, all kinds of things kick in. For one thing is you want relief. You want to feel okay. You feel like crap and you're trying to get some relief.
16:32🔗DrewAnd your body's sort of craving something, searching for some sort of energy or some sort of, you know, something to feel better. So it's also, it's regulating to try to feel better and also trying to get something going.
16:43🔗AdamYeah, I know. I walked on to the Sun of the Beach set this morning at 7 a.m. and I was like, I need a breakfast burrito and I mean, I need it now. I mean, I'm wasting away here and I'm thinking to myself, you know, if I don't get this breakfast burrito by 7 a.m. or 8 a.m., I may just collapse. And I thought, you don't normally eat for another five hours.
17:01🔗DrewYes. And when I was in training, I would get this strange empty, like gnawing feeling in my stomach that was like quasi-hungry, quasi- like ulcer pain. And I would eat, because it was in a county hospital, no food, except graham crackers and inshore gained about 20 pounds. I just, I would eat graham crackers. I couldn't stand it. I couldn't tolerate it.
17:18🔗AdamGraham crackers and inshore, that supplement for old people.
17:22🔗DrewIt's the only nutritional, I mean, although that was like sawdust, syringes I could chew on.
18:18🔗CallerHi. First of all, I just want to say I'm very glad that there's people I can call and ask because I feel like you guys are my last hope for answers.
18:31🔗CallerHere's my story, okay? About maybe six months ago, I had a bladder infection. Then I was kind of treating it with over-the-counter stuff and herbal stuff, and it kind of went away. My friend and I went to Planned Parenthood one day and we both got the double shot. That was in September. In October, I got my first period after that, and it hasn't stopped since, and I haven't had sex since because I have pain.
19:06🔗DrewOkay. Well, they didn't tell you that you'd bleed the first three to six months from the pill, from the shot rather?
19:12🔗CallerNo, they just said I'd bleed during the time that I was on the shot and a little bit afterwards, and I've just been kind of scared because it hasn't stopped, and I can't even have sex because I have pain.
19:22🔗DrewOkay. Well, somebody, have you seen a doctor since then?
19:27🔗CallerYeah, I went back over there and they said, well, we don't see anything. So they're like, okay, we'll give you a referral, we'll go see a doctor.
19:59🔗DrewI mean, it's just ridiculous. The same as depth will prepare, basically. But take the pill. That will stop the bleeding.
20:04🔗AdamHey, remember this joke? Here's a joke you don't see on TV anymore. Guy pulls the wallet out, that big accordion long thing with the credit cards and the family pictures falling all the way to the ground. Somebody figured out that wasn't funny about 10 years ago, and I've not seen it since.
20:21🔗DrewI tell you, my daughter discovered I dream of Jeannie. She decided that she wished there were a channel that played nothing but I dream of Jeannie.
21:17🔗CallerYes. I have a question. I've been going out with my girlfriend since July. And just recently, within the past week, we had a great relationship. We had a great sex life, and everything was going smoothly. Within the past week, she has told me that she wants to get out of the serious relationship and date other men as well as myself.
21:43🔗DrewWell, no. Forget that part. That will not work for you, I bet.
21:48🔗CallerBut she says, I want to date the other guys, but I only want to keep a sexual relationship with you.
22:10🔗AdamAnd are you a guy? Well, it's going to be hard to admit this, but have you, you know, when there's a relationship and sometimes it's not 50-50, somebody's doing 60 or 70 percent of the work. Sort of like one of those bicycles built for two. Somebody's doing a little extra peddling. Has that been you in the last six months?
22:32🔗CallerNo, it was pretty much 50-50 until the past, I'd say the last month. She's had a couple of problems.
22:46🔗AdamYeah, she met some dude at work. What's going on?
22:50🔗CallerShe works in a chiropractic office. She sits there alone all day and she's trying to start her own business, running it out of her house.
23:00🔗AdamHold on. You know what I love about guys? Guys are like, well, she's been under a lot of stress. Her folks had just had their house retrofitted with the double glazed windows.
23:15🔗AdamSo you can see why she's going through some changes.
23:20🔗DrewYeah, they missed the point. They're like lost in the forest.
23:23🔗AdamI can turn it around in the form which is when a woman who's in love with you is going through a little bit of stress or some family heartache or something like that, they get closer to you. They don't pull away. That's the time they need you.
23:38🔗DrewBut this is not about that. He's just struggling to find some reason for her distance.
23:43🔗AdamShe does work at a chiropractic office, Drew.
23:46🔗DrewAll right. Here are the possibilities. Either she can't handle intimacy and she's sabotaging, or she's trying to let you down easy and this relationship is over.
23:56🔗AdamShe's out. That's it. It's done. Here's the deal, Greg, and I swear to God, I wish I had me when I was younger me. I wish the older, lazier, fatter me could have come on by, like a hairy ghost floated above me.
24:15🔗AdamYes. You will literally be a millionaire one day. Forget this stripper bitch. You won't be driving that mini pickup truck for much longer. It will only be another 12 years.
24:28🔗CallerWell, see, I have a really good job, and-
24:41🔗AdamIf she wants you back and discovers she loves you, she will do all of that, and she'll do it more quickly when you tell her, hey, this isn't for me. I'm not one of those guys. So I hate to see you go, but I'm moving on. That's your only choice. And if she doesn't come back, then you've saved yourself some heartache and spared your dignity. And dignity.
25:06🔗CallerHopefully, I will have saved myself some money because I make about $1,200 every two weeks.
25:11🔗AdamTwo weeks? Wow. You're doing pretty good for yourself.
25:43🔗DrewYeah. I don't think it was bogus. I think it was just bad judgment.
25:46🔗AdamIt's time to give this speech one more time. Thank God we don't have to do like four good calls a night, because I'd be outraged. Do you know what I'm saying? Like if this show ran on, you guys don't go home until you get in four good calls, I would say so far we've gotten in half a good call and we're screwed. We're going to be here all night. Well, we just leave at midnight. So it doesn't matter, right, Drew? All right. Drew, we're going to break, Anderson. Nowhere. How does this work that everyone who's been listening to the show since they were 15 is now strung out?
26:39🔗CallerIs this Loveline? Call 1-800-LOVE-191. Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back.
27:18🔗AdamHey, Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew over there, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Just conferring with the Webster's Dictionary, and we're talking about this at the beginning of the show, Kid, like as in kid gloves, is a goat, that's soft goat skin. So everyone screws that up. They say, we have to handle this person with kit gloves or we have to handle this person with kitten gloves or whatever, anything but kid gloves. We got to handle this with kid gloves just means soft gloves. Yeah. I don't know how anyone's supposed to know that. But wait a minute, I did. Anna, you're 17.
28:09🔗CallerYeah. Basically, I was playing with this guy for a while, but we're not going out anymore and I would like to do anything to get him back, like anything.
28:24🔗DrewHold on, hold on, hold on. How long had you been dating this guy?
29:58🔗DrewI think it's the phone. I know you're making the case the line, but there are no lines anymore. It's all satelliteed anyway. I mean, how, you know, I mean, it's what are we talking about here?
30:06🔗AdamYou want to try to talk to her and ask what kind of phone? From now on, when we get that really bad sound, shouldn't we ask them if there's something up their phone? Anna?
31:15🔗DrewAt that age, you would have been talking about God knows who, but it could have been you. It wouldn't have been a three-year relationship, might have been a three-week relationship, but you have the same kind of obsession.
31:25🔗AdamYeah. The voice of Adam Future doesn't work on chicks. It's got to be a dude. Well, there's gender problems there.
31:32🔗DrewThis is a stretch for you. I know, but just stretch.
31:34🔗AdamOkay. There's nothing we can say to talk people out of this once they get momentum with it. As a girl, I believe you have it much easier. She's dating another guy already or has been. She sounds perfectly attractive.
31:51🔗DrewYou're stuck with your own ass. You're just stuck by yourself because when you get that stink of failure on you, forget it.
31:59🔗AdamImagine this. You got the stink of failure on you. You're 20, I don't know what I was, 21. I'm working with a bunch of Mexicans all day digging holes for a living, or born-against installing closets. You work with dudes all day. You're driving a beat up pickup truck and you got a one-bedroom apartment with three guys. You're not getting laid. You're not getting anything.
32:22🔗DrewYou're not getting something to talk to you.
32:24🔗AdamNo, you're in that horrible no-man's land, that 21, 22, no money, nothing going. You can't date chicks in high school. What are you going to do? Show up at the campus and try to find yourself a nice 10th grader? That's off. The high schoolers are all going at each other. You're not in college. You're having a hard time dating a college chick when you're driving a pickup truck and like I said, digging ditches.
33:00🔗AdamIf you work construction for a living and you don't have any money to do anything or go out, where are you going to find chicks? You don't see them the whole day. People don't realize that. When you're young, you got college or you got a job where there's some women around. You eliminate those two, you're beating off all the way to the poor house. That's what my grandfather used to say.
33:28🔗DrewForget about her. Now experience the relief at which you live in now.
33:34🔗AdamAnd then once in a while, you drag your pathetic, sorry ass out to some crappy place, like taco peddlers or the red onion or some nonsense like that, and you just go out and you got stink all over you. Loser. Desperate. And you're going up to chicks that you're not even attracted to.
33:59🔗AdamMind if I sit down? Girl looks up from the table. Why? Okay, I'm going to go kill myself. I was like, bitch, you're fat. Jesus Christ, I didn't even want to hump you. I thought I was going to do you a favor. Oh man, I mean, then it's time to really assess yourself. You got some drunken chick over at the sagebrush cantina, you can't even pick her sorry ass up?
34:23🔗DrewNo, not pick up. You can't even talk to.
34:26🔗AdamYou can't even sit down at the goddamn table?
34:28🔗DrewYeah, you were a long way from the pick up part.
34:31🔗AdamOh, am I going to kill my parents when I see them next? Don't ever, listen to me, listen to me all you guys. Don't you get a job where you're isolated from women, it's horrible. You get a job bartending. Imagine the difference between a 22 year old guy who's working with a bunch of born-again's and stalling goddamn custom closets or digging ditches with a bunch of Mexicans out in Sun Valley or a guy who's working at a bar. Chicks coming in getting them drunk every night and then tipping them. Phone numbers up the wazoo. You guys all become bartenders. Anyone who doesn't go to college become a bartender so you can get laid.
35:06🔗DrewAdam, without the man show you got no girls in here either.
35:10🔗AdamThat's right. That's very true. I'm still not in an environment where there's any chicks. Good. Anderson just brought that up. Drew, I'm going to have to take you. You have to leave. Again? You're the dude here with the least hair on you. Sorry, brother. Maureen?
35:30🔗CallerWell, my boyfriend's 22. He's 25 years younger. And we've been together for two and a half years. And I wanted to know if there's any statistics of if it works out or, you know.
35:59🔗DrewYou fit a profile, Maureen. That's what happens when people have a relationship go bad, is they try to find something a little less threatening.
36:06🔗AdamThe guy was in a hole and you hung on for a while?
36:09🔗CallerNo, he was a really good guy. He had an emotional breakdown, so he just kind of left. And then when he came back, I didn't trust him anymore, so it wasn't. We had a good marriage, though. For how long? Five and a half years.
36:26🔗DrewWhen did that end? How long did that end?
36:28🔗CallerWell, we're good friends now. I'm like his best friend.
36:39🔗AdamWell, what have you been doing for the last 18 years or so before you met this guy?
36:44🔗CallerWorking really hard to support my children because I was the only person. He didn't help us with financial reasons, so I had to work a lot. And then I had a son who needed a lot of extra care. So I dated, you know, I dated off and on between that time.
37:39🔗AdamAll right. Listen, everybody. That's fine. You know, there's always a reason for something. It's just when you're on your cell phone and there's a good phone right next to you, then I'm pissed. But you're driving, that's fine. All right, this guy wants to get married.
38:17🔗AdamNo, I don't know what you're saying, because we talk or she talks simultaneously when we talk and then you talk simultaneously. You know what I'm saying?
38:30🔗CallerOkay. The thing is that I am really, really young for my age. Everything that I like is the people in the 20s, they like the same thing. The music, my hobbies, sports, everything about me.
39:39🔗CallerAnd so he's working really hard to get his degree.
39:41🔗AdamAll right. Well, get married. What the hell?
39:44🔗DrewDon't you have the same concerns I have?
39:47🔗AdamYou know what? This happens once in a while. Well, I mean, I've known people who have done this. My stepdad is quite a few years younger than my mom.
40:06🔗AdamI think my mom's like 180 and he's like, you know, 150.
40:11🔗DrewShe needs to think about this, though. When he is her age, this is reality. When he is her age, Maureen's boyfriend is her age, she will be 72. That is reality.
40:29🔗AdamShe should be one of the skateboarding grandmas.
40:31🔗DrewThat she could find herself alone when this guy's, I mean, this guy's my age with a 75-year-old. Think about that.
40:38🔗AdamOh, Drew, you'd be breaking hearts and breaking hips, buddy. Tell you what, you're too passionate for a woman of that age. You're passionate, passionate man. Okay, but look, this thing ain't going to go 25 years. You know what I'm saying?
40:53🔗DrewWell, but I've seen situations where they have and people are devastated when they realize what they've got themselves into.
40:58🔗AdamDevastated. You don't wake up and your wife is 72. You do it a day at a time.
41:02🔗DrewYeah, they don't realize what's happening until people start getting medical problems. It's very painful. I don't know. I'm not saying there's a reason not to do it necessarily, but something to think about.
41:12🔗AdamLook, if you guys are in love, I'm all right with this guy. I'm with Drew. I worry, but I do meet these guys once in a while. They're just dedicated guys. They're not into any nonsense, and they just find some woman who becomes mommy, and they like the idea that they're kind of daddy to the kids, and the kids are their age, and oh, you don't want to find out how old their kids are. Got to be his age. Older? Older?
41:34🔗DrewNo? Well, 85, the marriage broke up. That's 15 years ago. They already had kids.
41:45🔗DrewAre your kids older than him? Yes or no?
41:47🔗CallerThey're younger. My daughter's 21 and my son is 15.
41:50🔗DrewThey're all younger. They're fairly younger.
41:51🔗AdamAll right. We got to take a break. Maureen, I give it my blessing. What the hell? Get married. What are you waiting on? The clock's ticking. The Grim Reaper's going to be at that wedding with you. Get married. Enjoy. We'll be back. Oh, hey, Drew and I are just talking about our days of dating the older ladies. Nothing wrong with that. All right, let's hop in.
42:45🔗DrewWe're torturing ourselves tonight, aren't we? Well, we're reliving our loser days and then the pains of dating.
42:53🔗AdamWell, Drew, you see, here's the thing. You felt like a loser, but you weren't actually a loser.
43:02🔗DrewYou actually were a loser. At least you could embrace your reality. Can we please just go back and soothe ourselves? Just go back to when we were 19 and just say, it's okay.
43:17🔗AdamThat's all I wanted. I've just been able to visit myself at 19 and just saying, just 12 short years, just three more presidents and like 24 more Olympics or like six more Olympic seasons from now. You'll be fine. You'll pay off that fees of bill. Lola?
44:09🔗CallerI took therapy and stuff, but it didn't help. I mean, I don't know how to stop. It's really hard.
44:15🔗DrewWell, you should be living somewhere for several months in a sober setting, working program all day, working with a sponsor. It takes a long time and a lot of work, especially at your age.
44:26🔗AdamCan you... What's going on in the background there, Lola?
46:03🔗DrewDid they say you need to go to some meetings and get a sponsor?
46:07🔗CallerYeah. And I tried that, but it didn't work.
46:10🔗DrewOkay. You have to do it, make a regular... It has to be all day. You have to be focused on this every day. It's not going to get better. You're not doing it. Nothing's not working because you're not doing anything.
46:20🔗AdamStarting doing Speed in the sixth grade.
46:45🔗AdamYou're running around like an a-hole all day. Has your Socko game suffered? Four squares not working the way it used to? Smear the queers we used to call it? All right, we'll take a break.
47:51🔗AdamYou, Loveline, Adam, that's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Well, I could do 20 minutes on Retreads, or we could just take some calls.
48:16🔗CallerFirst, I want to say you guys rock. I love you guys. I've been listening to you since I've been like 14. I love The Man Show. No, I am not one of those crazy ones who got strung out or something because I've been listening to you forever.
48:39🔗DrewGot it. Okay, good. We got the whole picture.
48:41🔗CallerAll that stuff is good. But I've been with my boyfriend for on and off three years, almost three and a half years. He was my first boyfriend, first love, first everything. He broke up with me last year on June because he said that he needed his space and his time or whatever. Then like two days later decided he wanted to get back together and he made a mistake.
49:04🔗DrewFirst of all, we're going to tell you what went on in his life.
49:07🔗CallerHe thought he was going to hook up with somebody else.
49:40🔗CallerHe's a student and he works with his brother. His brother is a lawyer so he works with him. But then he did the same thing like a week before my birthday last year. And then got back together two weeks later and then he did the same thing. This is the third time he did this last year. He broke up with me like two weeks before Christmas and didn't talk to me for two weeks. So I was like freaking out. I've been with this guy so long. Christmas Eve he calls me and he's like, well, I think we should get back together. I was going through problems and his excuse is always the same each time he breaks up with me. He wants to be by himself and he wants his own time or whatever.
50:18🔗DrewHe needs his own time but he doesn't have the nuts to hang in with that.
50:22🔗AdamYou know what I like about chicks and this is something I don't think a guy's ever done. I don't think I've ever done this. You tell me if you have, Drew. Chicks will weave that birthday in. He called and broke up four and a half months before my 20th birthday.
50:42🔗AdamIt was a week before my birthday. What is your birthday? Some kind of god damn national holiday? And listen folks, birthdays, Christmas, Hanukkah, Passover, Arbor Day, there's always a day.
50:57🔗DrewThere's a holiday coming, wherever you are in the calendar.
51:02🔗AdamIt's hard to time a breakup that's not near Valentine's Day, Christmas, her birthday. Women do that all day. Groundhog Day was just around the corner.
51:16🔗AdamThen, four months before Christmas, he drops another bottle. I just want to know as a guy, has that ever been a factor? Have you ever held that against anybody or said anything? Chick could dump me at my surprise party. I wouldn't have said anything.
51:35🔗AdamIt's all bad, but I'm not extra insulted because my birthday was mere 17 days away from the time she dropped the bomb.
51:43🔗DrewBut Kim is describing symptoms of someone who's in a relationship with their first love, their first relationship. They don't know how to end it. They can't let go. They can't imagine living without it. It's normal for it to end. It needs to end. It's hard, but you need to have a moratorium on any contact with him. He knows he needs to go to it, but he doesn't really have the way for us to stay out there in the real world by himself.
52:05🔗DrewYou need to cut it off. It's over. And maybe someday it will work out, but it's not supposed to. You're 19.
52:12🔗AdamLet me float this thought here, Drew. Don't most these end this way and it's for a reason. Each person knows this thing has run its course. And it's gone on an extra year.
52:34🔗AdamNow, all of a sudden, they have the strength to break up and they have the strength to stay out of it because they've hooked up with somebody.
52:42🔗DrewAnd also, it's an emergency to break up now.
52:45🔗DrewHe's been lingering for six months. Today has to end.
52:47🔗AdamSomebody's going to have to meet somebody to do this.
52:49🔗DrewBut that's bogus and that's a bad way to end a relationship. And it's not good for the individual that needs to get out there and sort of be by themselves. This guy's right. He needs to be by himself. He doesn't need to hook into another relationship.
53:15🔗AdamThank God. It was a whole six blocks away from my apartment. Then started dating a dude who rode a motorcycle. I used to see this dude's motorcycle parked in front of my grandparents' house. Now, my grandparents were out of town for like five weeks. My grandparents, you know the Corollas. Nobody's better than anybody else.
53:39🔗DrewHow do you even speak to your grandmother after all that?
53:42🔗AdamWell, my grandfather's dead, so I don't have to talk to him anymore. But no, you know, what's fair is fair. We're all the same. Doesn't matter if it's your kid or some stripper's kid whose parents live in England. Doesn't matter. You're moving out, moving into the grandparents' house. Yeah, that felt good. I had no feeling like going on a late night recon mission. Just driving over to the grandparents' house.
54:58🔗AdamAnd then I'd climb into this truck with six born agains. One guy, Frank, spoke in tongue, Shandala, Shandala, Shandala! Start yelling. And they'd pull out their Bibles and they'd start asking for traveling mercy. You know, I'm not talking about, you know, religious. Another guy goes to church on Sunday. I'm talking about toting the Bible to install the goddamn closet. Dear Lord, please give us traveling mercy. Please use your guidance over these closets that we install. Oh, my God, I would sleep in the back back of a cube truck was it fell as I'm going to the back of the cube truck. I'm going to cover myself in furniture pads bang on the rolling door when we get there. And I've just lying there thinking, Jesus Christ, I hope we I hope we die. I hope this truck gets hit by semi and I just burned back here.
55:51🔗DrewI think they've not come that far, have they? I mean, after all this morning, you're wishing the same thing.
55:55🔗AdamNo, I just wanted a breakfast burrito and I was going to die if I didn't get it. That was different.
57:05🔗DrewI guess. Neurontin is good. Depakote is good. These are very good medications. There's a lot of good stuff for bipolarity right now. So just it's more important you get your bipolar taken care of. Get an exercise program going. Monitor your diet carefully. But you don't have to gain weight just because you're on bipolar meds.
57:21🔗It just seems like the water retention or something.
57:24🔗DrewFrom lithium, sure, but not from Depakote.
57:28🔗AdamI think the real problem is being named after that Fleetwood Macs. How high are your parents? I guess you could have been named Tusk or something. How high really were your parents?
57:47🔗AdamNo, they did. They were cool. Oh, God, do I hate that crappy Fleetwood Macs. They're a hugely overrated band. Hugely.
57:56🔗DrewNick Fleetwood was on our television show, remember that?
57:58🔗AdamYeah, he was a cool guy. I'm not just saying, Fleetwood Mac and the Eagles, and there's a handful of other bands where they had four good songs, but we had to hear all 25 of their songs. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. We got to hear the Eagles sing Witchy Woman for the 300th time. Please. All right. Same with Fleetwood Mac. All right. Rihanna. They don't say Rihanna, they say Rihanna.
59:21🔗CallerWell, I kind of got a problem with my father and me. I try to talk to him about my problems and he just, acts like he really doesn't care, you know, doesn't want to listen.
59:32🔗CallerWell, kind of loneliness, you know, and we just moved out here to Oregon and I've kind of been alone a lot. He's really the only person I talk to and it's just anymore, we just don't talk, you know. It's been like that most of my life.
59:55🔗CallerWell, he has a big thing with his back and I came out here to go to the medical VA hospital in Portland and my cousin was out here and they kind of wanted him to move out here.
1:00:18🔗DrewOkay, well he's probably strung out on pain medication. So his ability to hear you is blunted. He's on drugs. You're not going to be able to reach him. That's why you feel abandoned by him. He's loaded.
1:00:30🔗CallerWell, I really don't think he takes any pain medication for his back. You know, I don't think he just takes anything.
1:00:36🔗AdamWait a minute. The guy moves out to Oregon so he can be closer to the VA hospital because of his back.
1:00:43🔗DrewHe's not taking any medication for it.
1:00:46🔗AdamYour back, I would say the number one thing you take pain medication for would be your back. He's had problems for years with his back. He moved so he can be in proximity of the hospital. He doesn't take pain medications, Ron?
1:01:01🔗CallerWell, he has a lawsuit going on against the military. My cousin is the lawyer. That's kind of the main reason why we moved out here.
1:01:07🔗AdamI see. All right. Well, now that explains why he's not taking pain medication.
1:01:14🔗CallerI don't know if he takes anything or, you know, I don't get in that set with him. Basically, it's been, you know, all my life I've tried to talk to him and it's, you know, talking to a wall.
1:01:24🔗AdamOh, good. Then dump him. He's an idiot. You can't, listen, you can't beg your dad to take an interest in your life. This guy's an a-hole. Screw him. Your only problem is following him.
1:01:39🔗CallerHe's put up with me my whole life. You know, I was kind of a troublemaker. I got into a lot of trouble and he got me a lawyer. He got me out of it. And you know, I can't really do that to him. I can't just leave him, let him say, well, go on your own.
1:01:51🔗DrewYou know, you can certainly, Ron, he's your, he as a parent has an obligation to allow you an independent and separate a whole life. Go ahead and live that life. You can support him and be a good son and still live a life separate.
1:02:05🔗AdamWell, that's the thing. Look, here's the deal, Ron. I've run into this in my own family and Drew probably has as well and many people listening have. You spend your life trying to get something from your family that they're not going to give you and trying to make them into the kind of person that they're not going to be and will never be. OK, especially your dad at seventy three with these back problems and God knows what kind of medications going through his body. He ain't going to change and he's not changing for you and I know that hurts, but you are now ruining your life, beating your head against a wall with this guy. You're twenty-six years old, you need to move out, you need to make some friends, have some relationships, start your own family and be a better father than your dad.
1:02:57🔗AdamOK, so here's the deal. You don't owe this guy anything. Yeah, you were a troublemaker, but you're probably a troublemaker because he didn't pay any attention to you growing up, so you started acting out. And if you don't want to blame it on your dad, blame it on my dad.
1:03:21🔗DrewIt's good that you take responsibility. That's great.
1:03:23🔗AdamI know. But listen, Ron is emotionally like 11. He's one of these dudes. He's one of these dudes I would have to work with.
1:03:33🔗DrewSo you're going to find the 47-year-old early thing?
1:03:36🔗AdamJust run, move out of the house and stop using your dad as a crutch. It does become a crutch when people get into that, I owe him this. I have to take care of that. He's 73. So what? How old's your dad, Drew?
1:03:50🔗AdamOkay, my dad's 70. You know, everyone I know has got a dad who's 70, 71. We all go move in with him. Screw him. Look, if he needs you, okay, he needs you. He picks up the phone. You help him out. What he needs is a son who's independent, not one that's sitting around waiting to crack a bud and have that heart to heart that's never going to happen.
1:04:12🔗DrewAnd for all we know, Ron's dad may find him a pain in the ass.
1:04:15🔗AdamYeah, or at least the back. But meanwhile, Ron's life's going away. Just go out and make some friends and don't be bitter. Thank you. Don't be bitter.
1:05:49🔗DrewHow can somebody play a game like that and not smoke pot?
1:05:51🔗AdamListen, I had friends that didn't smoke pot. My friends Ray and Snake, whenever they got in a pool, I don't know why it was in a pool, but they would have this. I would, this is one game I wouldn't play. They would get in a shallow end. And again, I don't know, it had to be in a pool because it was kind of messy. And they'd get about five, six feet away from each other. And they would open their mouth and take turns trying to spit across.
1:06:21🔗AdamI couldn't do a loogie. But here's the deal. They would have to sit there perfectly still with their head tilted back and their mouth wide open while the other one from about five or six feet tried to hawk a loogie into the other mouth. And you know it's a bad game when the thing hits you in the eye and you're laughing. Loser! You've got a loogie hanging from your eyebrow.
1:06:44🔗DrewWhere's the vomit sound? Please come on. Is there ever more?
1:06:56🔗AdamYeah. That probably wasn't a good idea. I didn't participate in that. No thank you. Should we take a little break here, Drew? When we come back we're going to speak to Jason. He's 23. Want to talk to Jason?
1:07:23🔗AdamLet me tell you, there's a pregnant girl on the set of Son of the Beach in a bikini. I'll tell you, I'm turning it around. It's a little bit sexy. I've been enjoying this. It's a little naughty, but it's nice. One of the girls from Son of the Beach, really hot blonde, is like five, six months pregnant and her boobs are all swollen and everything.
1:07:51🔗AdamAnd they've got that sort of belly sticking out and there's something sexy about a slightly pregnant woman, not nine months but just five and a half, six months in a little bikini bottom. Sort of the belly hanging over the bikini top there, the swollen boobs. I'll tell you, it's sexy. I never thought this way before.
1:09:15🔗AdamWell, I think I know my past was horrible and I was a loser and you think your past was horrible and you're a loser. That's good enough. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. That's what works for us.
1:10:35🔗AdamAlright, so what's going on with your wife then? You're trying to have sex?
1:10:39🔗CallerWell, yeah. It ends up only happening about once every two weeks or two to three weeks. And I don't know what it is. She's got some kind of acidity. It's just her vaginal fluid is real acidity and it burns.
1:11:13🔗DrewYeah, so she gets irritated. How long are you guys sort of doing this before she gets irritated?
1:11:18🔗CallerWell, it won't happen. I mean, she won't get irritated right away. But what I guess what happens is, you know, the next day or whatever.
1:11:30🔗DrewHave you talked to her obstetrician about this? Yeah.
1:11:33🔗CallerYeah. He says everything's normal. He said, actually, he told her not to wear underwear, like the bed and stuff. I don't know what that's all about.
1:11:43🔗DrewDid he see a yeast infection there or something?
1:11:46🔗DrewBecause I'm asking these kinds of questions because vaginitis, which is normally not a big deal for a non-pregnant person, but can cause irritation. It can be passed back and forth. It can be a rather significant thing or important thing for someone if they're pregnant.
1:12:01🔗AdamWhy would he say not to wear underpants to bed?
1:12:40🔗AdamYeah. That's something you got to get in writing before you get married, buddy. You should have had your attorney look at that. Really? Not her cup of tea? Not her cup of jizz, huh? Yeah. Yeah, that's bad times.
1:12:54🔗AdamShe's downstairs. She's like a snowmobile battery and an acid down there, and then upstairs, she's closed for business. All right, Ron, you got to kill yourself.
1:13:07🔗DrewAt least he's got a good sense of humor about it. He sounds like Santa Claus.
1:13:49🔗CallerI'm down to 430. And I started having somebody, something felt like it was choking me, so I went to a doctor and he looked at me for two seconds, told me I had pulmonary epidemic and go see a cardiologist. The next week I was out in Denver and I wasn't feeling good, had a fever, went to the hospital. They did a complete blood workup, urine workup, did an EKG, chest x-rays and stuff. The lady came out, the doctor came out, gave me three aspirins, told me I was in perfect health, I was just fat.
1:15:04🔗AdamYeah. That's, that, that, I would consider that an easy one. But as per usual.
1:15:10🔗CallerYou wouldn't have a caller. Nobody bats an eye.
1:15:12🔗AdamI, I, I tell, for people call, I tell them what they do for a living and they just keep...
1:15:17🔗DrewWell, I like Tracy the answer. Yeah. Yeah, that's me. Okay. So, anyway.
1:15:22🔗AdamYou know what I think it is? I, I think people who call the show think we must pull their file. See, Tracy, 39 years of age, Sagittarius, born in Ontario, California, got his Class 3 driver's license in 1974.
1:15:38🔗DrewNo, we got nothing. We got, we got a sentence. At an age.
1:15:42🔗AdamThey must think we know some, there must be some sort of magic screen that tells us all what you do for a living or something. I like that guy the other night, that, that bitch who called. She's like, yeah. I said, wait, are you a nurse? Yes. I said, you don't think that's interesting that I guess you're a nurse? Well, who else would be calling at this hour? I just came home from work. Okay.
1:16:08🔗DrewAnd we have only nurses calling, only nurses listening.
1:16:11🔗AdamYeah, only nurses. Yeah. And by the way, aren't there nurses at the hospital at noon, at three? I mean, there's nurses. Nurses not, it's not like a graveyard shift job per se. You wouldn't say nurse. I mean, they do work it, but it's not a popular one. It's not a classic. It's not like the guy works at a 24-hour convenience store or something like that. All right, Tracy, anyway, 430 pounds.
1:16:57🔗CallerWell, he sent me to he wanted to do a stress test, but I weighed too much and he sent me to a breathing doctor and come to find out I have sleep apnea.
1:17:11🔗DrewUsually. You're going to have to lose 150 pounds before that really goes away.
1:17:16🔗CallerAll right. Second problem is I constantly think I'm going to die all the day and time. It just I mean, I wake up in the middle of night thinking this.
1:17:24🔗DrewWell, you wake up in the middle of the night gasping for air.
1:17:28🔗DrewAnd that's the sleep apnea. The thinking you're going to die thing is more panic and somehow you've sort of converted all these genuine physical symptoms into a panic, a sense of impending doom. And you've been checked out properly. They told you, you have no significant risk for or at least unusual risk for sudden death. You have a real condition that will harm you over time, but you're doing something about that. Everything else is fine. You're not going to die, but you're having some panic feelings and that's, you know, that's just panic.
1:17:58🔗CallerThat is terrifying, let me tell you.
1:17:59🔗DrewWell, I'm glad it's got your attention and you're going to do something about it.
1:18:02🔗AdamYou just stick with that diet and the exercise and this is going to happen for you.
1:18:06🔗CallerOh yeah, I started out being able to walk from one front of my truck to the back and I was out of breath. Now I can walk around our whole warehouse.
1:18:50🔗AdamWell, being a trucker, back in the day, it was a cool thing. About the mid-70s, people writing songs about it, making movies about it. You're like a modern day cowboy.
1:19:30🔗AdamYeah, all of a sudden, start writing songs about CBs and trucking and convoys, and then start making movies about trucking and convoys and everything.
1:19:39🔗AdamAll of a sudden, for like 18 months, you're riding high. Yeah, you're driving a truck. Now, you're driving a truck. You see what I'm saying?
1:20:04🔗CallerAnd we're going to get an apartment together here pretty soon, and I just wanted to, like, start using condoms just to be, like, more safe. Condom and the pill, you know?
1:20:15🔗CallerJust because, you know, we're going to be living together. I don't want to, like, have kids or anything right now, you know?
1:20:20🔗DrewHave you been having sex with her on the pill previously?
1:20:23🔗CallerYeah. Yeah. For, like, the past five years.
1:20:26🔗DrewAnd so what's... I don't get it. Why the extra need for safety now?
1:20:30🔗CallerI don't know. I just feel like we're going to be living together. There's more of a risk.
1:20:34🔗AdamIt's really his way of saying, slow down, honey. It's a little statement being made by the penis, which is, yes, we're moving in together, but, you know, don't think that means we're starting a family. Psychologically, this is a barrier. What he's... Listen, I think what he's saying to himself and to her is she's moving in, this thing's moving on, and he's seen himself married with five kids in three years.
1:21:21🔗AdamThat's what I think he's saying. Jason?
1:21:24🔗CallerYeah, that sounds about right, actually.
1:21:26🔗DrewWhy don't you just say that and go ahead and keep using the pill, because that's plenty of birth control.
1:21:30🔗AdamAre you a little apprehensive about her moving in?
1:21:34🔗CallerNo, actually a little bit, but I think it's going to be good. Like you said, if she misses a pill or something like that.
1:21:40🔗DrewAre you worried that she's going to intentionally miss a pill?
1:21:44🔗CallerNo, I don't think she should do that. You know, accident or just I missed the pill or something like that. I just don't want to hear an accident happen.
1:21:54🔗AdamYeah, all right. But I think this is all sort of stemming from the, this is moving along maybe a little too quick, maybe feel like your territory is being invaded a little bit or something. And you don't want to be married and have kids a year from now.
1:22:11🔗CallerBut she's like pissed off about it, like, oh, why do you need condoms, you know, or she thinks I'm going to like cheat on her or something.
1:22:19🔗AdamShe's got a point. Listen, you do what I do. I do that with all my bitches. I take that pill out just like they do at a mental hospital.
1:22:28🔗AdamI put it, put it on her tongue. Every day we do it same time at noon. She gets off of work. I meet her at a park. And yeah, then she puts on her tongue and I make her stick it out. Then when she swallows, then I take a mini mag light. Look at her mouth, pull her nose back and I check around and I put a glove on and feel around and make sure she doesn't try to store it on the roof of her mouth or somewhere the flashlight couldn't get to.
1:22:53🔗DrewCheek, they cheek it. There is now the transdermal contraceptive. There are patches you wear once a week. If you're someone who can't remember to take the pill, get the patches.
1:23:03🔗AdamRight, right. Right. You just eat that patch once, one patch a week and you're fine, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's a little ritual I do with the pill taking. All right. Drew, can you read to check anyone's mouth, see if they took a pill?
1:24:42🔗CallerBut I just wanted to know like if there's any like really bad effects of it, because we don't use it a lot. It's just like a weekend thing for a body.
1:24:48🔗DrewWell, except for heart attack and stroke and mood disturbances. No, nothing other than that.
1:24:55🔗CallerBut are those caused from like extent like...
1:24:59🔗DrewEphedrine is an awful drug for your body. I mean, really awful.
1:25:17🔗DrewI don't know. I don't know the difference. There's a slight structural difference. But Ephedrine is a stimulant that has vasoconstrictor properties. It is very tough on your body.
1:26:44🔗AdamOkay, then why do you got to pop pills and then have sex?
1:26:47🔗CallerOh, it's just because it keeps you up all night.
1:26:51🔗AdamI know. Why? Why do you want to stay up all night? Here's what I'm saying. This is bad for you. Drew is scared of this stuff and to me, it's just a bad precedent to set for yourself. You're 18, you're getting high, you need more out of sex than sex itself.
1:27:10🔗DrewIt's also an addictive drug, make no mistake about it. I've treated several cases of a federal addiction.
1:27:14🔗CallerWell, that was another thing I just wanted to say. I mean, I basically just wanted to know what like any, because we don't use a lot.
1:27:20🔗DrewOkay, Nikki, I've now said three times to you that there are profound effects.
1:27:32🔗AdamUh, well, I mean, here's the whole thing. I know people call the show, they want an answer from Dr. Drew. I'll be, I'll give the, I'll give the fantasy. You give the fantasy answers.
1:28:09🔗DrewThat's just the start. You should really be getting a bit more, because when you take enough, you'll see a bright white light bleed directly into your brain tissue. It'll be great.
1:29:13🔗CallerOkay. My question kind of pertains more to Adam than Drew, I think. My wife, we got married two years ago. We had sex like rabbits for the first six months and everything. The past year and a half, it's been, like, very sporadic. The last six months, it's been absolutely nothing. She says she can't have sex with me because she doesn't respect me, because I don't have goals and whatnot. So I'm wondering, is this some kind of ploy or is this...
1:29:38🔗DrewShe's angry at you. She's angry and she can't be sexual when she's that angry.
1:29:42🔗AdamYeah. I'll tell you, man, if a woman has an ounce of resent in her vagina... Let me tell you something. An ounce of resent in a woman's vagina is as much as twenty pounds in a man's heart.
1:30:32🔗CallerNo, no. Not for another two or three more years.
1:30:34🔗AdamOh, okay. Look, she can't base this on your income, but you can base it on your effort. Is there something? And look, it's not about what you're bringing down. It's not about your paycheck, I'm sure. It's about, you know, commitment to her and what you're doing around the house and all that kind of stuff. Are you taking care of business?
1:30:56🔗CallerYeah, I mean, I'm taking out the garbage, doing the laundry and, you know, doing the grocery and whatnot.
1:31:01🔗AdamAll right. You're working on the house and, you know, fixing it up and that kind of stuff?
1:31:05🔗CallerYeah, I'm fixing my end and whatnot. We went out and got her a new car, you know, I haggled with the salesman. I got it down to invoice.
1:31:19🔗AdamI don't know. Why don't you ask her why she doesn't respect you and why she's angry at you? Did you get caught cheating on her?
1:31:26🔗CallerNo, no, I haven't. I mean, I'm about to now because I haven't had it for so long.
1:31:30🔗AdamListen, though, if we talked to her, she would give us a long, long laundry list of things you weren't doing for her.
1:31:38🔗CallerYeah, I bet. I mean, she'd just say, you know, I want you to have some career. Where are you headed in? Where do you want to do with your life?
1:31:46🔗AdamYeah, but listen, you know, you make over 40 grand and you're doing, you're doing professional work. I mean, okay, listen, you got to talk to her. But oh boy, you know what guys do? If they give you the answer, that ain't the answer. If he's sticking to the career, believe me, it's emotional. Yeah, nothing to do with his, his work, right? He's doing his job. She don't care about that, right? Guys love to do that. They love to use that as money. They love to use that money stuff. Women are much less interested in that than we, than we portray them. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. There's a handful of gold diggers out there. But you know what? Most chicks, as long as you can pay your bills and you treat them right, they're completely fine with it. He's doing something wrong. He's got to talk to her. I don't think he wants to know.
1:33:34🔗AdamCoffee and water all week long. I want to thank Tara, don't call me Tara, God damn it, for doing a wonderful, wonderful job on the phones as well. I want to thank Lauren for doing a great job, doing a little junior producing, well, co-producing, I guess. I want to thank producer Anne for doing the head producing on the show. Yeah, she's still with the show, right Anne? Sure. And of course, the one with the magic fingers, Engineer Anderson.
1:34:13🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Anne Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.