1:13🔗
Voiceover
Hey everybody, it's Loveline, I'm Adam Carolla, that is Dr. Drew over there, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician and Addiction Medicine Specialist. My call time tomorrow for Son of the Beach is 7 a.m. How was it this morning? Well, it was a late call time, it was 7.30.
1:35🔗
Adam
No, but I got a breakfast burrito, so all was good. This is killing me. Okay. What's going on? Oh, yes. Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. Dedee is, well, you know her. Well, I know her being a Sybil fan, as her eldest daughter, of course. You also know her from For Your Love, which is on Sunday nights, 9.30 on the www.wb. 4 season, and the premiere is this Sunday. You know her as Michelle Pfeiffer's much younger sister. And you'll now know her naked. She's in Playboy this month, February.
2:26🔗
Adam
Well, this is what you call serendipity, because I was on, I don't want to bore everybody with my stories, but here goes, I'll be real fast.
2:38🔗
Adam
I was on the phone with someone by the name of Cheryl Lynch, who's Jeremy McGrath's publicist, who's a great lady, wrangling a bunch of tickets to the Supercross race this Saturday in Anaheim. And she said, did you see February's Playboy? And I said, no, I didn't. And she said, there's an article on Jeremy in it. And I said, oh, well, I have to check that out. And 20 minutes later, well, here it is in my lap, everybody. And I get to see Dedee naked as well, too. Is this on? I feel uncomfortable looking.
3:15🔗
Adam
That's all right. Now I'm really not going to look at it, I mean, until I get home. And then I'm going to chew on it. But here, I'm going to pretend like I don't care. I'll just flip through it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Let me just see if I can. You know what? They put all these inserts. I'm going to go, I'm going to bring this in the bathroom. Don't soil it, Drew, and I'll look at it during the break. All right? Yeah. All right. Now, what made you do it? The money?
3:45🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Hey, why not? Actually, I did it for a lot of different reasons, actually. I did it about a year ago. The idea actually came from my manager, JP, I have to give him credit for it. I hit a place in my career and in my life that I've been acting for almost 20 years. Yes, I'm Michelle Pfeiffer's sister. I have a body of work that if you look on the Internet, in case you don't know who I am, you'll actually say, oh, wait a minute, that was her in that? Oh, wait a minute, that was her in that? So I'm a character actress.
4:13🔗
Drew
That's a good thing. I always consider that's a huge compliment when you go, oh my God, that was that person. It's true.
4:18🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
I've been in interviews where the casting director or the director would look at the resume and went, oh, wait a minute. As they're going down, all my credits are like, that was you in that? Oh, I love that movie. Then they go, oh, okay, I see it. That is you. I'm always so flattered. Or people come up to me in the grocery store and go, I know you. I don't know you, but I know I know you. Then they go, what have you done? I'm like, oh my, you're going to make me sit here for five minutes and draw off, I don't know how many TV episodes and feature films, but one thing that people do know me for is being Michelle's sister, so I was like, well, I thought it was time to kind of do something that not only shake up that a little bit, but also as myself as a woman, it was my way of embracing my sexuality and the wild side. People who know me personally didn't bat an eye when they found out I was doing this. They were like, that is so Dedee, that is so me because I'm so wild and outrageous and I'm not apologetic for who I am and the differences between my sister and I. So it was a way to really get that out there.
5:15🔗
Drew
We were having this conversation last night, weren't we? About how people can do a million even primetime television. Now people have no idea who they are yet we do some crappy show on, gets no ratings, we take them to the airport.
5:42🔗
Okay, good.
5:45🔗
Okay.
5:46🔗
Adam
Well, let me float a Playboy theory. You tell me if any of this rings true. I believe that most all women would love to look great in Playboy. I really have not met a woman who if you prodded her a little, wouldn't admit that she'd love to be sort of immortalized this way. And with women and with men and with human beings, let's face it, there's a window.
6:14🔗
Adam
And that window will eventually close, and you'll have no great pictures of you in your youth looking fantastic.
6:22🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
When you're 90, you don't really want to do Playboy when you're 90. It's not sexy or attractive.
6:26🔗
Adam
But also, so many people have done Playboy over the years that have been celebrities and notables and non-Playmates, that it almost makes it okay, doesn't it?
6:38🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
That's the, a lot of people have asked me recently in interviews, oh, do you think this is going to hurt you? And I said, absolutely not. I think that we live in a time now where women are no longer apologetic for being sexy, sexual, smart, professional, warm, loving. We can be mothers, we can be wives. We can be all of these things. And you can be all of these things. It used to be if you're a Playboy and you pose nude, and you're actually not considered smart or it might deprive you of a job. Well, that's no longer true. Like you said, Sharon Stone has done it. Drew Barrymore, I mean, the list goes on.
7:06🔗
Adam
Well, and it also used to be something you did when you couldn't do something else. Now, there's people-
7:15🔗
Adam
Well, that's my point. I mean, now there's people who were doing other things and are doing other things who are doing it as well.
7:21🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
But you're right though, because it's funny, at home, in my private time, at night, I have the candles lit and I'm wearing something by myself. You look in the mirror and you go, oh yeah, I could do Playboy, oh yeah, I could do it. And every woman secretly by themselves goes, oh yeah, I think, in this angle, actually, I'm not so bad. But then at 10 o'clock in the morning, when you're there with a photographer and a guy's lighting you and a woman's doing your hair and makeup and it's cold in the soundstage or a studio, and they go, okay, you know, do it. Fans are going and they play music for you. It's very funny because I got really shy fast and I got very scared. So immediately I realized it actually was a fear for me. As wild and crazy and outrageous as I am, I actually was like, oh my God, I'm actually about to do this. So it was wonderful to embrace this fear of saying, look at the camera and just break down all these inhibitions and just go, if you're going to do this, really commit to it and do it. And then don't look back, don't apologize and embrace it. So it was actually kind of scary in a weird way, but wonderfully liberating once I did it. I was like, well, I don't really think I can be much more embarrassed than this at all, because everyone will have seen all of me.
8:23🔗
Adam
Well, that's my philosophy with fears. I look at square in the eye and then I beat off and take a nap.
8:31🔗
Adam
That's my move. That's how I approach life. And you know, it's not for everybody. But for a select certain breed of cat, just a handful of guys, that's the code we live by. I don't apologize for it. All right, Drew. You ready here? I'm ready. Anything we're missing? No? Okay.
8:50🔗
Drew
I'm just thinking about the picture of Santa Claus's beard and mouth they might get from you.
9:10🔗
Okay. So I'm just wondering what you guys think. If masturbating one time a day to four times a day is excessive.
9:23🔗
Female.
9:32🔗
Average is probably close like once a day, and then there's probably two days out of the week where it's like four times a day.
9:40🔗
Sometimes.
9:44🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
I'm actually curious to see what you're going to say, keeping it professional, because personally, I don't think the four times is excessive, speaking personally for myself when I'm single and alone. I actually think that it keeps you out of trouble, and it's safe, and it's healthy, and it's nothing to be embarrassed about. Actually, I think it's taking really good care of yourself, actually.
10:02🔗
At one time, it was. When I talk to my friends about it, I mean, a lot of them don't even say they don't even masturbate.
10:11🔗
And I've only had four sexual partners and feel it's safer than going out and having random sex, but...
10:17🔗
Adam
Well, wait a minute. Okay. Yeah, you sitting home in your one-bedroom apartment with the deadbolt locked and the vibrator going, I would say that would be safer than...
10:25🔗
Drew
Speaking of safety, you know, people are always asking us, what's the risk? What's the risk? What percent risk is there from doing fill in the blank, anal sex, whatever? Right. Just today, somebody came out with a model, a mathematical model that tried to answer that question. And here's what they found out. Oral sex is twice as risky as... No, performing oral sex is twice as risky as receiving oral sex.
10:48🔗
Adam
Oh, okay. So let me process that. Okay. So it's much, much riskier, male or female, doesn't matter?
11:04🔗
Drew
Compared to receiving oral sex, insertive vaginal sex is 10 times more risky than oral sex.
11:17🔗
Drew
Then it goes down, then it starts to specify. But hang on, let's read this out. Insertive anal sex is 13 times more dangerous. So, insertive means you're the one inserting. Receptive vaginal is 20 times more hazardous.
11:43🔗
Adam
Oh, but then giving you oral sex because you have infected semen. But if I was giving Dedee oral sex and the night is young, how much different would it be? And it doesn't specify that.
11:56🔗
Drew
Hold on, receptive vaginal sex is 20 times more hazardous and receptive anal sex 100 times more hazardous. So it's basically giving a hierarchy of risk, a number on the hierarchy of risk.
12:27🔗
Adam
You're right. True. You're right. Listen, you know what you need to do? Read that over and then burn it. We're trying to go through it, but now we're all jumbled with numbers now. Here's what I want you to do. Drew, please, please. Off the air. I want you to read this thing over, give it a little 1 to 10 scoring thing, and then we'll do it because these numbers are really confusing.
12:48🔗
Drew
Well, the point is it's scary to do this always. You know what I mean? It doesn't really mean anything. It's just sort of putting a hierarchy of risk in the behavior. That's all.
13:01🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
No, to me, it sounds like masturbation once again is probably the safest after all.
13:04🔗
Adam
Well, let me ask you this, Dedee. As a guy, I always tell guys, look, you get home, it's 2 in the morning, you go for the free newspaper, you start calling escort services or phone sex, you run up a credit card bill, you get into trouble. Just beat off and go to bed. If you just beat yourself off, you'd stay out of so much trouble and save so much money. Absolutely. One of my drunken buddies called two escorts. One of them showed up. He got in an argument with them. Okay. He gets an argument with the first one. The pimp says he's getting a shotgun and coming back and killing him.
13:47🔗
Adam
I know. So he calls the cops and says, hey, it doesn't say I called an escort service, this crazy guy's got a shotgun, he's coming over to get me. The cops show up and while the cops are standing there, the other escort shows up. Now they're all standing in this guy's apartment and he's loaded. That, if you just beat off.
14:08🔗
Adam
If You Just Beat Off. But is it that way with women? I mean, not as much as men, I'm sure, but is there an element of that? You've had a few glasses of wine, you're thinking about calling some old boyfriend, you shouldn't be calling.
14:19🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
And girls do it, listen, as much as I'd like to not admit it, a couple margaritas, a couple glasses of wine, they feel a little lonely, they start calling men that if they were sober, they wouldn't call. And really at the end of the day, they wake up the next morning going, oh, Nessie, now I either left an embarrassing message trying to act like I was not looking for a booty call at one in the morning. Or when you really could have saved face, and like you said, I think that it applies 100% with women as well.
14:45🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Women are sexual just as men, it's just that we're just far more still embarrassed about it, at least I think we're getting better about it.
14:50🔗
Drew
You're not embarrassed about it, the biology is not as profoundly driven. Men are just driven.
14:57🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
And we're more emotional too. It's like often when women, for instance, men and I often think they might want sex, and that probably is true, but I think also they want intimacy, they want to be held, they want to, and of course, if sometimes sex happens, that just for men.
15:10🔗
Drew
To me, the behavior of sex addicts really spells out the difference between men and women. With female sex addicts, spend all their time in chat rooms. Male sex addicts spend all the time staring at things.
15:19🔗
Adam
Well, also, if you stopped 500 men who were age 40 and asked them how many times did they made some kind of drunk and bad judgment call for sex in the middle of the night, whether it be professional or some ex-girlfriend or someone who got married or whatever.
15:35🔗
Adam
They'd all tell you 20 stories, and if you spoke to women, it wouldn't be as many. There'd be some, but not as many.
15:41🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
And actually, my girlfriends just make phone calls and are humiliated the next morning, but also are very happy that all they did was left messages. But then, you know, because the guy was usually out. All right.
15:50🔗
Adam
Here's the hierarchy. No, no. That math was too fast. You check it during the break. Shana?
16:00🔗
Caller
I was wondering, like, how can you tell if I'm, you know, about my sexuality, if I'm gay or, you know, my bi or something, because...
16:09🔗
Caller
Yeah. Well, because I've been, like, with a girl, right? And it was, like, four, like, three years ago. I was a freshman, and I was, like, with her, and I think she's, like, my best friend, and she moved away, and, you know, it's over with and everything, and I've tried to move on, move on to guys, stuff like that, but it's not happening, you know? I mean, they're there, and I don't know.
16:36🔗
Caller
Well, I was with her, you know, and we were doing things and something like playing around with each other and something like that, and I liked it, you know? I see these, you know, pornography and everything about girls and everything, and you think that's really funny.
17:02🔗
Drew
Is there anything sort of, as we call it, spinning your compass or screwing your compass up? Are you sexually abused or physically abused? No. Nothing like that?
17:10🔗
Adam
Let me ask you a hypothetical. If you could think of one celebrity, rock star, actor, whoever, male or female, who you could have in your room for one night, who would it be?
17:26🔗
Adam
Oh, fascinating. Fascinating. How come everyone screws up, no matter how compelling my questions are, they manage to get screwed.
17:40🔗
Adam
Hold on. Hold on. Shanna? You get one, goofball. Now, who is it? Angelina Jolie. All right. Lesbian.
17:52🔗
Adam
Well, I mean, that's not a bad test, if you think about it. At least it's going to get you a little bit closer. It clarifies it. She wants, oh, it's not George Clooney, it's Angelina Jolie.
18:03🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
You know, I think it's interesting, too, especially when you're younger and you're women and you do start experimenting with your sexuality. If you do enjoy being with the same sex, what I found through friends or things that I've heard.
18:16🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Friends of friends and friends reading books and things. That there is that question because and I think what happens is that for a woman, they experience something with another woman that they find difficult to find in a man. So they start to say, oh, wait a minute, maybe I'm gay. And that doesn't mean that they are or not.
18:34🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
True. Yeah. And a woman is also a little bit more apprehensive to maybe be so open with their sexuality with a man. So unless she runs across a guy who's similar to that woman in that experience, there's confusion there. So I think that happens often with women that I've seen. So especially when they're younger because they're still trying to find themselves, let alone a sexual maid and someone who stimulates someone in all different levels. And they don't really quite know what they want. So it's part of growing up.
19:03🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
I'm not even sure if she should even be thinking about it, whether she's gay or not. Maybe she's just trying to grow up.
19:07🔗
Drew
I should agree with you. Unless there's some trauma that really is screwing up her identity, that needs to be sorted through, then she's part of her development.
19:22🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Actually, I think I've exposed myself in Heaven Playboy, but thank you very much.
19:29🔗
Hi.
19:32🔗
Caller
I have a question. I've been on different antidepressants for about five years now, and the ones that work will work for a while, and then they taper off, and I'll need to either increase the dosage or switch to something. And I just started smoking pot again. I've stopped for like three years, and I was wondering, I'm kind of flipping back into a depression. I was wondering what is the possibility that that's because I've been smoking.
20:06🔗
Drew
They don't work. First of all, there's an addictive process underway, so there's a whole reward system operation that affects the effectiveness of antidepressants. And pretty much all drugs of addiction deplete the chemicals associated with depression that you're trying to raise with the antidepressants, so it's working directly against it.
20:25🔗
Adam
Right, but it's not like it renders the pill useless. It doesn't cancel it out. It's a bad idea.
20:31🔗
Drew
It doesn't cancel it, but interestingly, it makes it not effective. Maybe not completely ineffective, but just not effective.
20:52🔗
Drew
But I suspect, I would bet also you were doing some other drugs in that time when you were trying other antidepressants.
20:58🔗
Caller
Well, I had in the beginning, and I could do anything except Cinex cigarettes for like three years, and I just quit that a month ago.
21:09🔗
Drew
Well, it's interestingly, and I don't have an explanation for why this happens, but if people have addiction, and they try to treat their addiction and their mood disturbances with antidepressants, they don't work. You may feel a little better, they may work for a while, but unless you treat your primary illness, which is the addiction, which has its own separate kind of treatment, it's unsatisfactory, the antidepressants by themselves.
21:34🔗
Drew
I suspect you are. My time will tell. It sounds like you have that going. Is there a family history of alcoholism?
21:41🔗
Drew
That's all you need. And so that's probably a big part of why this is- you're struggling with this.
21:52🔗
Adam
All right, baby. Keep up that good fight. Listen, I like that Paige. She came in with the no.
22:00🔗
Adam
I was halfway into presenting my plan for her, my 10-year plan, as you know, I had for all the callers and no. But then she heard everything you had to say and said thank you. That's all you.
22:13🔗
Drew
But all, listen, isn't it gratifying? People can do as they please, but the only thing that makes it frustrating is when they don't hear you. When they hear it, they listen, they take it and they go, that's not for me. Great. If it is someday, hope you remember this. Yeah.
22:28🔗
Adam
Well, yeah, here's what we want. We don't ask that everybody is cured. We would hope you do the right thing, but it's your choice and you're young and some people have to experience a few things before they're ready to quit.
22:41🔗
Drew
But what's frustrating is you give the explanation, they go, why don't I feel better? But I'm asking about the interpress, how can you make me feel better?
22:47🔗
It's like, well, right.
22:49🔗
Adam
Well, what it is is they have an agenda. They want to do something. They ask Drew if it's safe. Drew says, no, it's not safe. So they ask again, instead of making a decision to either do it or not do it.
23:01🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Which is tough when you're young, too, is to say, okay, I'm going to take control over this, I'm going to be responsible, and I'm going to make the decision to say, no, I'm not going to do this, so the result is this. Or yes, I am. Yes, I am.
23:11🔗
Adam
All right. We will take ourselves a little break. Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. She's currently on the cover of the February Playboy, which I'm sure is out in, is it out in newsstands now? Yes, it is. Yes, because they are always, Playboy seems to me pioneered that out early thing. That's my, or maybe that was the only magazine I was waiting to come out early. So that's the only one I noticed. Maybe the Christian Science Monitor had been doing it for years, and I just haven't caught up to it yet. We'll take a little break and we'll be back. Hey, yo, Loveline, I'm Adam. That is Dr. Drew, Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. You can find her on the WB in her fourth season of Four Year Love, Sunday night at 9.30 is the premiere, and then every Sunday after that. Also on the cover of the February issue of Playboy. It's purple and she's the one on the cover with the peace sign looking good. Drew has deciphered this risk business, and is now going to share it with you. Now, this is like Drew was attempting to say earlier in the show, people call us, they want to know, is it dangerous to do this or do that as it pertains to HIV?
25:00🔗
Drew
Certain behaviors, what's my risk, what's my risk? They've figured out a way to put receiving oral sex as a very, very low risk.
25:09🔗
Drew
So, receiving is considered a one on the scale we're going to build here, and one is very, very low risk.
25:14🔗
Adam
So, the best thing you can do is get a BJ or have a guy go down on you if you're looking to avoid HIV.
25:21🔗
Drew
That's what you're thinking. That's what I'm thinking. You want a guy to go down on you. Okay.
25:28🔗
Drew
Number two, the two times a risk is giving. So, giving oral sex is twice as risky as receiving.
25:43🔗
Drew
Is it ten times the risk of the receptive oral sex? Inserting into the anus is thirteen times the risk.
25:51🔗
Drew
Yeah. It seems like it should be higher. It's twenty times riskier to receive vaginal sex than to receive oral sex.
26:04🔗
Adam
Well, that we got to talk about because I'm not ready to quit cold turkey. The vaginal sex, I think I can wean myself off of. But getting the anal, that's going to be a tough sell to the cooly. Yeah. Is there some kind of brown patch or something I can put on, Drew? Is there anything? Something I can do? Just take the edge off a little bit.
26:27🔗
Adam
Yeah. I start getting the shakes. I haven't had anything up there in, let's say, three days. Start getting agitated on edge. No?
26:37🔗
Adam
Should I just take the bottle and stuff it in my ass? All right. Let's, that clonopin, that stuff makes you not nervous.
26:54🔗
Caller
Yeah. I have a question about OCD, Obsessive Comorcial Disorder. And like from forever since I can remember, I've like had these different like symptoms. And so I've classified myself that like I have it.
27:08🔗
Caller
Like constantly liking things in order or like having all my like plates and everything clean completely or.
27:20🔗
Adam
Drew, what would peeing in the ice bucket, what would that classify as? That wouldn't be OCD, would it?
27:26🔗
Drew
No, in fact you might take down an OCD a couple of notch. You might, your neighbor who has OCD might lose some of their OCD.
27:34🔗
Caller
No, well like and if I like, I'm eating food, I don't like people like talking over it.
27:40🔗
Drew
What are you afraid, what are you afraid will happen if you don't engage in these rituals? What do you think?
27:45🔗
Caller
I'm not like afraid if something will happen. I just like, that's nasty. You're like talking over me while I'm eating and.
28:03🔗
Adam
Nobody wants an auctioneer moving livestock over their plate. I'm with you on that. I got to do that now for when I'm 45, what was that? I don't know, that's sensible. But the part about, you called and said you had to put everything in order, for instance.
28:29🔗
Adam
You know what people do on the shows? They call, they present a problem, and then they are the prosecuting attorney and the defense attorney at the same time. They start by saying, I have a problem, here's all the things I do. And then you start questioning them and they go, well, what's wrong with having clean shoes? And you go, I don't know, bitch, why'd you call? Well, surely, no one wants their food spat upon, okay.
28:59🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
If she can't help herself, is that compulsive? Like where she goes, I'd like to not clean. Yeah, where you look at something and it's dirty or out of order.
29:05🔗
Drew
There are obsessive compulsive traits that are not disorder. Disorder really is, it interferes with your functioning, the rituals are very involved, you have unpleasant feelings associated, you would not be able to complete them or you believe that there's gonna be something doom.
29:22🔗
Drew
There needs to be intrusive thoughts and thinking that are unpleasant that you can't get out of your head.
29:40🔗
Caller
And also if like certain times I don't like people like touching me because I'll feel like that's dirty too.
29:50🔗
Caller
Like let's say somebody was to come up and hug me. Then I would be like feeling nasty and dirty.
30:04🔗
Drew
That to me more triggers thoughts that I have about somebody who has issue with boundaries. That whenever people violate your boundaries or your space, you feel angry and somehow you're going to push them away because they make you feel something that's very unpleasant when they invade those boundaries.
30:41🔗
Adam
Well, why aren't we? Hold on a second. Why aren't we just saying that's what this is? Because she's got that energy.
30:48🔗
Adam
She's defending it. But she definitely has those traits. She's washing her hands all the time. She's scared about people touching. She's just getting that germ thing going on. She's got those traits. So she seems like a decent candidate for this.
31:00🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
See, I have two friends. One is the same with a boundary. When you go to hug her, I'm very like, hey, she gets very rigid and you can tell she's uncomfortable with it. And that's a characteristic where you kind of go, OK, she's not a huggy feely kind of person. And I have another girlfriend who won't leave the house until she's cleaned everything. But it doesn't disrupt her. It just really bothers her if she doesn't get it cleaned. She'll whine about it all day. And I always thought she was a little compulsive. But I don't think to a point, like you said, where she can't function or interfere just bothers her.
31:36🔗
Adam
And she's washing her hands constantly. She's obsessed about this stuff. What's wrong with getting it checked out?
31:47🔗
Drew
Because I don't think she needs it. I really don't think it's not disturbing her, helping her disrupting her function.
31:59🔗
Drew
Which is that, Trish, the thing you said though that triggered some concern I have though with these boundary issues, did anybody ever when you're growing up or anything sort of violate your personal space, your physical space, hit you, anything like that?
32:19🔗
Adam
You're just saying that because she's black and all black people get beaten by their parents, Drew.
32:28🔗
Drew
That creates an issue with boundaries. What more powerful way to tell someone they're not worthwhile than to violate their boundaries. Now, whenever anyone comes near violating boundaries, it puts you in touch with that shame and the feelings of worthlessness and you push that away. And that's a more serious issue than these sort of obsessive-compulsive traits, okay?
32:51🔗
Drew
If you want to look into that, that's worthy of seeking help for them. Because these things may become more bothersome if you get a mood disorder or something. These obsessive-compulsive problems may become very prominent.
33:09🔗
Drew
I know your mind. And she doesn't have the sense of something bad happening to her if she doesn't do the ritual.
33:12🔗
Adam
Very racist, Drew. You should really think long and hard about that. Adam? Yeah. You're 19?
33:23🔗
Caller
First, I want to say, you know, you guys are great. Adam and Dr. Drew, all this new time.
33:29🔗
Adam
Drew gave you the thumbs down. Sorry, Adam. He doesn't believe your question already. But go ahead anyway.
33:37🔗
Caller
And the girl, I got your edition of February and I got to say, it's already like stuck together. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:55🔗
Caller
Well, it's kind of weird because like I have a half sister. She lives with my mom. I live with my dad and we like, well, I don't know. We've always been like really kind of flirty and you know, she's cool and like one night we got, you know, kind of messed up or whatever and like we rutted.
34:39🔗
Caller
Anyway, so like she told me this morning that she's pregnant. Like she took two tests so she knows that she's pregnant.
34:52🔗
Caller
I don't know. I'm worried because I keep telling my buddies and they keep making fun of me saying that it's going to be like a flipper baby or whatever.
34:59🔗
Drew
That's not the issue. The bigger issue here is this child is going to have parents or siblings.
35:06🔗
Drew
And this family is going to be a mess and this child is going to come into a world where things are very confusing to it. Is she going to see this pregnancy through?
35:37🔗
Caller
I heard you guys talking earlier about like, you know, feeling weird when you call an ex-boyfriend. We'll think about if it was your sister and you were like drunk, you know?
35:47🔗
Adam
Well, according to Drew's statistics, I'm only going to receive from my sister now. No more of that anal.
36:02🔗
Adam
I would say it would be a good plan in this case. It would be good for you to learn from this experience and watch yourself when you're drinking because it seems like hell, if you can bang your half-sister drunk, you could take a shot at the president. Do you know what I'm saying? What I'm saying is you can bang a family member because you're drunk, that means you've got a wide range of things you can do.
36:26🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
You don't have a lot of boundaries when you're intoxicated, so it's best to really watch that. Also too, that's a really good advice because you bring a child into that kind of environment. It's just really unfair to the child who has no choice.
36:39🔗
Adam
Plus you're being raised by the two people, thought it would be a good idea to get together.
36:42🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
That would just mess up a kid quicker than anything and this world's already a really scary place so it's safe.
36:54🔗
Drew
Maybe he'll call this show and we'll continue to scourge people from figuring who their parents are. Any of you thinking about finding your birth parents, listen to this call.
37:00🔗
Adam
Right. Drew, you were brought up by your parents. You don't want to know who they are, right? And what about it medically, Drew? It's not as big a deal as people think. Is that true?
37:14🔗
Drew
Well, but here's the thing. Here's the inconsistency in that reason. Yes, there is, it's not good for a population to have a lot of inbreeding over multiple generations. It's not good. On the other hand, what is good is as much genetic diversity as possible. Therefore, racial intermixing should be something we should equally as powerfully support as we discourage family intermixing. You see what I mean?
37:45🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
So I'm German, my husband's Peruvian, so that's a good mix. That's a great mix.
37:58🔗
Adam
Smart. Very smart. Okay. So, but anyway, you're saying, could I get my biological sister pregnant? Yes. No, I know that. So I pull out. But what would the kid be?
38:19🔗
Drew
Probably. Except for he'd be a Corolla throwing through. A lot of people probably don't need to hear that.
38:23🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
A lot of people are drunk right now looking over at their sister going, hey, we can get it done.
38:26🔗
Drew
But there's a barrier here, and that's the fact that it would be a Corolla squared. That'd be bad.
38:39🔗
Adam
We got enough. All right. Dedee Pfeiffer here tonight on the cover of Playboy as We Speak and For Your Love, WB Sunday night, 930. We'll take a little break. We'll be right back. Hey, what's up?
39:24🔗
This is Marcos. This is Sonny. Love.
39:26🔗
And we're POD and you're listening to Dr. Drew and Adam Carolla on Loveline.
39:32🔗
Yes, you are.
39:33🔗
Adam
Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. Dedee is currently on the cover and in the pages of the February issue of Playboy, which is out on newsstands as we speak. Also in the fourth season of For Your Love, which is on the WB Sunday Nights at 9.30. Alright, ready to get back to the phones? Let's do it. Speak to Derek, who's 20. Derek?
40:00🔗
Caller
Hi, how's it going? Good. I've been going out with my girlfriend for about 5 months and within 3 months it was going pretty good until the subject about sex came up and she wanted to have sex. And then I told her that I wanted to wait till I get married. And then- You pansy! Yeah, sorry. So I told her I wanted to wait till I get married. I always felt that way. And it seemed like no big deal then. Then it got about 2 months later, which is what we come to now, where she is telling me that she wanted to know if it was okay, if she goes to one of her really good friends, a woman, which I've actually known so that they could, so she can get some of her quote-quote sexual frustration out of the way. And she wanted to know what I felt. And I kind of like, well she was telling me, do you think it's cheating? And I said, yeah. And then she got really mad. And now she's like, we're really reluctant to talk to each other now.
41:09🔗
Caller
It would have, you know, even though as bad as it sounds, it would have, I would think, it would have been worse.
41:39🔗
Adam
True, please. I respect that. That's fine. I don't know if this may be the right one for you, though, if that's part of your plan.
41:48🔗
Drew
Just in many ways, this is not working. What you want for the relationship is not what she wants.
41:55🔗
Adam
And here's the deal, too. Everybody who's got a mission plan for themselves, sexually or otherwise, keep in mind you may run into somebody who doesn't have that mission, and that's one of the pitfalls of having the mission.
42:10🔗
Adam
I mean, what you're doing, you are in the minority with this, and that's fine. I mean, I respect it, but you're going to have to find someone else who does, and this one may not be that one.
42:21🔗
Drew
And she's suggesting these various sort of outlandish, chaotic solutions for the problem, and then becomes enraged when he won't go along with it. A lot of drama.
42:30🔗
Adam
I think she was trying to kickstart him a little. She's trying to get him going a little bit there.
42:39🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
That's actually something that we don't think about when we start to date somebody is, how sexually compatible are you with that person? It's hard to find until the relationship is kind of going, and then all of a sudden one becomes either less sexual or more sexual. But he seems pretty clear upfront that he was waiting, and she was cool with that in the beginning, but now she's kind of changing.
43:00🔗
Caller
Yeah, and then I thought, that's why after two months later, she finally realized I wouldn't budge.
43:09🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Well, he'd admire him for his strength and his conviction in what he believes in.
43:16🔗
Caller
I mean, there's also a problem that this girl, we recently went out, like I said, five months ago, but I've known her for a little bit of a while. About two years, and then she's been in really bad relationships.
43:31🔗
Caller
It sucks because the time that we have when we're not dealing with this problem, we're actually, we're really fine.
43:45🔗
Caller
I remember at one point, I just knew she, she just couldn't handle it because all her past relationships were just sex, sex, sex, and finally when we were on my bed or something, I finally just gave her the finger and gave her the orgasm because that's all I know she wanted.
44:01🔗
Caller
I just wanted it as long as she was, but I know that's not going to cover the problem.
44:10🔗
Adam
He's a religious man. The bitch had been asked for the finger all night long and he finally stuffed it to her. Good times. I think Jesus would have done the same thing, one of his disciples.
44:23🔗
Adam
Yeah, he gave her the finger. All right. So, Derek, it seems like, yes, you don't know it, but she's very chaotic and it's time to find someone who lives in the slow light with you.
44:50🔗
Caller
Well, you have one on the cover where it's like a belt thing. It's going around your waist. Then inside the layout there, you got another one on your butt.
45:07🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
It's funny. Thank you. Thank you for saying that and actually, thank you for bringing up the question, Marcus. It's actually a little bit of a sore spot with me. These are real tattoos. I'm a little old to be having henna tattoos. The one on my stomach and the one on my ass are both real and mean a lot to me and they're not just something stuck in my body because I gave them great thought and it's from a wonderful tattoo artist named Kirk Alley in the Valley who takes his work very personal. Each one means something to me personally. Right.
45:41🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Okay. He knew that these were spiritual for me and the ones on my stomach are a picture of two doves. One is in memory of my father whom I lost and the other one is in memory of my best friend who I lost, one of cancer and one of AIDS. The angels on my butt represent the innocence of love, something I will always believe in.
45:55🔗
Adam
How about just putting a picture of them on there? I mean, it's a cut out the middle man.
46:01🔗
I just thought maybe it would be a little funky.
46:08🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
I'm telling you, my first experience with the angels on my ass, as I got older, when I was younger, they were chubby and fat. Now that I'm older, they're kind of long and lean, they're turning into teenagers. So I thought I'd stop putting people's faces and stuff on my body and do doves so if they get transformed, when my body transforms. What happened was, I don't know if it was an accident, but they airbrushed my tattoos off my stomach on the inside. That's what happened there, Mark. That was not, and actually it was already in print when I saw that because I would have stopped the presses and say that's like airbrushing my nose. Well, this is a part of my body for the rest of my life.
46:41🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
I have a feeling someone looked at it and said, I think it's a prettier picture without the one on her stomach. Personally, that I was very hurt because I took it personal because my tattoos, and in the article inside, it mentions my tattoos and what they mean to me, and yet they airbrushed them off my body.
46:56🔗
Adam
We got to take a break, but I smell a lawsuit here. I mean it. You could probably sue them for altering you.
47:04🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
I thought this gives me something to talk about, because I thought someone will say, wait a minute, what happened to the tattoo on her stomach on the inside? It disappeared. But yeah, they actually mean a lot to me, those tattoos.
47:13🔗
Adam
All right. We will take a break. DD5er's our guest tonight, talking about the cover of Playboy, February. And we'll be right back.
48:14🔗
Adam
Hey, yo, Loveline, I'm Adam. That's Drew. Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. She's in For Your Love, which is on the wwwwb930 Sunday nights. The premiere is coming up this Sunday. She's also in the new issue of Playboy, February, on the cover and in the pages. And Drew just pointed out that I'm in it, too.
48:40🔗
Adam
Yeah. And you know, let me, we were just having a conversation about- Are you in it naked, too? Well, I'm just looking at the front page. So let me turn the page and see. No, my ass is not on the back part of the page. They, I'm up there with the Hefner roast that we did in- Didn't, sorry, did in New York a couple months back. Well, we roasted Hefner and there's a whole montage of pictures of that night. There's a picture of me standing next to Brett Butler, smiling at the podium and I have zero recollection of standing next to Brett Butler. If you'd asked me if she was there, I probably would have said no.
49:29🔗
Adam
I do remember doing the gig. Yes, vaguely. Yes, Drew, that's Brett Butler. Who else would that be? Isn't that her?
49:37🔗
I don't think so.
49:37🔗
Adam
It's not Gilbert Godfrey. Well, there's got to be a little caption or something in there. It probably says it.
49:45🔗
It does look like her.
50:24🔗
Adam
I'd just been waiting to drink that whole night. There was like a whole night where you should have been drinking but you couldn't get drunk until the very end. So I was probably loaded by them because I just polished off like a bottle of wine as soon as that goddamn thing ended. Go ahead, Scott.
50:38🔗
First of all, I'd like to say to Dee Dee, absolutely beautiful. I love your Playboy spread that I just described and you're my first issue.
50:50🔗
Very impressive.
50:53🔗
Adam and Drew, I'd like to apologize because I lied last week to get your cranberry sauce recipe.
51:02🔗
Well, two weeks ago.
51:06🔗
I'm sorry.
51:12🔗
Oh, man. Anderson, I think it's really cool you-
51:18🔗
Whatever.
51:19🔗
Adam
It's on hold for 41 goddamn minutes. Let's talk to- and not that Anderson doesn't deserve craze. It's just we don't want to hear that. That's right. Jason?
51:30🔗
Yes.
51:33🔗
Caller
Hey. I was just curious. After I go ahead and do my thing by myself, jerk off and everything, I was curious what the lifespan of sperm was after it was in the air.
51:50🔗
Caller
Just because I was curious because I didn't want to get my girlfriend pregnant if there were some still dried on the tip of my penis. And I didn't know if that, you know, if any more exposure to moisture would reduce...
52:01🔗
Drew
So your question is if you were to have intercourse within some period of time after ejaculating, would there be enough around there to get her pregnant?
52:11🔗
Adam
Well, he also had a theory about being remoistened and brought back to life like sea monkeys.
52:23🔗
Drew
Sperm lasts 72 hours in fallopian tubes. So if it is in ovulation anywhere within that 72 hours that it's sitting up there, you can get someone pregnant.
52:37🔗
Drew
But it can live in the urethra for a little while. So you got to, if you haven't urinated or something after, if you haven't done something to flush out that urethral tract, you can get her pregnant just with what's hanging around the urethra.
52:55🔗
Adam
No, but when it hits the fan, I mean, that's trouble. That's a very messy one. That is serious, serious trouble when the sperm hits the fan. My mommy said when your dad gets home, and sees his report card, the sperm is really going to hit the fan. Kathy?
53:09🔗
Yeah?
53:12🔗
Caller
I was wondering, okay, I was molested, and I was wondering why I go towards men instead of the girls that are really rigid from men.
53:26🔗
Caller
Why I totally go all out and go for men when a lot of girls that have been molested, they get all rigid and they don't want to be around men.
53:39🔗
Drew
You can either go back and forth, which some women do, between being very rigid and the sort of avoidant of sex or being highly compulsive towards sex. And it seems that having been sexual abuse sets people on one trajectory, sort of one track or another. And if you're going down the one that's highly sexualized, that's you. Being sexually abused does definitely predispose to sexual addiction, sexual compulsion. And some women are completely, like, feel nothing, they feel non-sexual, they completely shut off to all that.
54:13🔗
Adam
No, but it would be this way, this is the way with a lot of things, like, let's say a certain nationality kicked your ass when you were ten years old. Some guys would seek out that nationality and try to kick everyone's ass, and other people would run when they saw someone of that nationality. Do you know what I'm saying? So this is kind of the same thing. You were traumatized by a group or by a person, and now you either run from it or you sort of try to conquer it.
54:47🔗
Drew
What freaks a lot of people out is that if they were sort of physically handled aggressively in some of these sexual encounters, that becomes the only way you can orgasm. It's as though that are so highly arousing an experience prior to your brain being mature, where it sort of lays down the track work that causes you to need that in your sexual encounters. Wow. Yeah.
55:10🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Is that something to be concerned about if you find yourself in that way where only that?
55:20🔗
Adam
Kathy, you're going to have to get yourself some help any way you slice it, right? Who molested you?
55:26🔗
Caller
Um, you know those home daycares? You know where like the regular people run it? The husband of the wife.
55:34🔗
Adam
Wow. See, it's a catch-22 with those folks who want to open their home to daycare because they cannot be trusted by virtue of the fact they want to open their home to daycare. That's the way I look at it. It's just like guys who want, you know, these single guys who want to be scout leaders. It's like, no, sorry, we can't take you. We got to take the guy who doesn't want to do it. Take me. I'll be pissed. I'll drag my ass out to the woods once a week and I'll be pissed as hell, but I will not molest because I don't want to do it. You got to watch out for the guys who are signing up. All right, Kathy, well, did they get to the bottom of this?
56:12🔗
Adam
Good. Yeah. You figure, I mean, it's just like how... I know these molesters work on sort of impulse, but what is the plan? You know, I mean, like, if you say... I can remember as a kid saying to, like, a younger kid, don't tell your mommy that I took your or whacked you across the head or did this. And then they go, if you tell them, we will get into trouble, your mommy will get mad. Okay, all right. Then run right up to them and start screaming about it. How are you going to molest that, you know, 15, 6 or 7-year-olds and not expect every one of them to go home and start yapping about something?
56:50🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
I think what happens, and I might be wrong, but I think that they're so traumatized by the event and they somehow hold themselves responsible that that somehow keeps their silence and they feel like they're being punished, ashamed, and that, you know.
57:11🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Yeah, they kind of like sense them or something, they know which ones will squawk and which ones will actually withdraw.
57:16🔗
Adam
It just seems like with those kids heading home and living with their folks every day over a course of months or years, you just figure something's got to give.
57:26🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
It's actually scary because usually when they find out the child's been molested years later, they look back and they actually can pinpoint when the child started to change behavior, but they never really noticed it enough to say, hey, wait a minute, Johnny or Susie's acting a little strange. Years later go by and...
57:47🔗
Adam
Should have been an indicator. Had we known then what we know now. Anna? You're 19? I'd like to see the flask make a comeback. That was a very... Yeah, it was the way a gentleman would drink.
58:15🔗
Yes.
58:17🔗
Okay, there was this guy. I started going to school with him. I went to school down south for... Let's see, it was 2000, in August of 2000. And I really, really liked him, and we were friends at first. And then things sort of escalated to a physical level. But I knew that he didn't like me, you know, as anything more than just a friend, but I kind of let my feelings sort of take over anyway. And I started... you know, we started getting physical and stuff like that. And so anyway, the school year is over in May of last year, 2001. And now I like totally can't stop thinking about him. And like he has another girlfriend and everything, but I can't stop thinking about him for anything.
59:06🔗
No, I don't go to the same school as him.
59:09🔗
But he lives like ten minutes away from me. And he came back from school too. And he's at home now too.
59:21🔗
Yeah, I know that, but it's like I keep hanging on to like the little memories and stuff.
59:39🔗
I don't know. It's like I'm going to school now and everything and trying to get a part-time job and everything like that. But he's like literally on my mind all the time. And I don't know what to do about it.
59:57🔗
Drew
What is it? No, she's not because the relationship ended without any... This has come back around now as an obsession when her life is not going so well. Are you depressed?
1:00:10🔗
I went to therapy when I was younger and they said I was depressed. And they said that I should take some drugs or something. But my mom didn't think it was a good idea for me to get on.
1:00:19🔗
Drew
I'm highly suspicious that the depression is resurfacing because this obsession is just your brain trying to manage something. There's no connection to reality. There's obviously no possibility of a relationship. The relationship even ended without it being terribly traumatic to you. But now all of a sudden there's an obsession there. And it's an obsession that's trying to distract you from something more unpleasant, some other feelings that you really don't like having. And it's time to look into that.
1:00:43🔗
Adam
All right. Well, back to the shrink and you're not a minor anymore. Screw your mom. And if they want to give you some drugs, you go ahead and take them.
1:00:50🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
There's nothing wrong with trying to take care of yourself. I mean, it's actually being really responsible and smart.
1:00:55🔗
Adam
Yeah. And look at it as a little bad tasting candy, you know? Not drugs, not drugs. Such a negative connotation there. There's a little oddly. Drew, how many times are you going to suck that mic in the course of this break? At least one. Well, you know, it's interesting. You're honing. You worked a couple of techniques because you did the drag a little bit earlier in this. You did the drag, the scrape. Yeah, you did the swipe. And then this was the punch. And what are you going to do? Will you submerge it in water at a certain point? Like, what is your, what's the coup de grace for you?
1:01:31🔗
Adam
How do you top yourself every night? Let's talk. You know, let's get rid of Damon over here because he's been on hold for 55 minutes. And I'd just like to get him out of our hair. Pardon the pun because he's got a hair related question. Damon?
1:01:49🔗
Caller
I just had a question. Actually, I've been always curious about this. I can grow full facial hair, but yet on my body, I have very few pubic, it's almost strands and I have no hair on my legs or arms at all. And I was just wondering, I mean, is this a medical deal?
1:02:12🔗
Caller
Yeah. But my whole life, always people like when you would take off, you're sure you have no armpit hair. And at some point in my life, I thought I might grow some, but now I'm 23 and I still have no body.
1:02:27🔗
Adam
But the good news is you got all these fags shaving themselves down. That's another thing.
1:02:53🔗
Adam
I'm telling you, there's a lot of guys shaving themselves down. But be that as it may, Drew, what should he do?
1:03:09🔗
Adam
Oh, shut up. Let me tell you, Drew punches a mic a couple of times and rattles the can around, so I get on him and then we go to a call and now he's going to pay me back by having Damon dive a hyperactive thyroid.
1:03:27🔗
Adam
Bull, because we've gotten this call many times and you've asked if they've had a work up.
1:03:43🔗
Adam
You would tell, if I didn't force you to take that call, you'd tell him to just get a check up, get a work up.
1:04:00🔗
Adam
Probably lose less hair on your head, because the guys who lose the hair on their head seem to be hairier guys, because they produce that testosterone that gets them to lose it.
1:04:13🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Does that have anything to do with their fathers too? Is that true, that your father's bald and you're going to bald? Is there any truth in that?
1:04:18🔗
Drew
Yeah, and they've also said mom's dad is a contributor to that, but not a direct relationship.
1:04:24🔗
Adam
Alright, so this guy should see nobody. What could he do if he wanted to do something?
1:04:35🔗
Adam
I don't mean a hair growing pill, but what I mean is some sort of replacement supplement. Maybe he should have his testosterone check.
1:04:43🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Hey, do you believe in those herbs, biosil and pantol, that supposed to promote hair growth, make that, you know, all that stuff, do you think that works?
1:04:51🔗
Drew
Never heard of those. But I can't think of anything that would be associated with them.
1:05:01🔗
Drew
The hair and the legs and the pubic area, particularly in women, can be associated with adrenal function, but he wouldn't have signs of normal testosterone elsewhere.
1:05:12🔗
Hello?
1:05:25🔗
Yeah?
1:05:31🔗
Drew
They are different compounds. MDA is a little more strongly hallucinogenic and a little more damaging to your brain.
1:05:53🔗
Caller
Okay. Have you ever heard of anyone of a drug dealer being convicted for man fodder for someone who overdosed on MDA? Yeah.
1:06:07🔗
Adam
They do that. I mean, that's what, hell, I mean, Carol O'Connor, Archie Bunker was bringing that drug, his son's drug dealer.
1:06:29🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
And he felt that drug dealers had given him drugs to contribute to his depression, which then led to his suicide. Right, right.
1:06:35🔗
Adam
Yeah. In a way, like on one hand, I'm like, oh, I think it's a bold statement. On the other hand, it's like, ooh, you're doing a little transference there, aren't you, Archie? I mean, you got a drug addict son. I know you can go after, you'll be mad at the drug addict, but you've got to take a look at what's going on around the house, too, don't you?
1:06:55🔗
Caller
Exactly. Look, this is a case that's going on in Portland, and a girl died, and the drug dealers, they're trying to convict a manslaughter, but I mean, she willingly took these pills.
1:07:05🔗
Adam
Yeah, but she took an illegal substance that he supplied her, and they're not going for murder one, they're going for manslaughter, which means there's some copability there. If you're driving, Jesus, I should be an attorney.
1:07:16🔗
Drew
If you're driving down the street, and you accidentally hit someone, you can be tried for manslaughter. I mean, you were involved in the chain of events that led to this person dying.
1:07:25🔗
Adam
Right, you didn't intentionally try to run them over, but yet, because you were talking on your cell phone, you killed, you took a life, you were involved, you were responsible for it.
1:07:35🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
They're really cracking down on all those kinds, especially the drug dealers and all that. They're just trying to hold more people more responsible for this overall epidemic that we're going through, with kids, younger kids, you know, Odeen.
1:07:44🔗
Adam
Yeah, well, let's talk about the law for a minute, because I got a couple thoughts about that. I was watching another one of these high-speed pursuits on the TV today. And it's, you know, there's this new, here's really the problem, is cops are scared to do anything now for fear there's going to be, another thing we're going to thank the attorneys and the left-wing liberals for, and the ACLU and all these other vermin that are trying to destroy the fabric of this country. And I'm not a right-winger, but I...
1:08:22🔗
Adam
I'm liberal in most senses, too, when it comes to, you know, women's rights and drugs and all that kind of stuff. But you gotta let cops be cops. True. And here's the problem. They go on these high-speed pursuits now, and they can do nothing. Their thing is back off, lay back, don't put any pressure on the guy, and wait till he runs out of gas.
1:08:46🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Because you've got a tank of gas and a faster car than them. I mean, just keep going?
1:08:50🔗
Adam
Well, I mean, the thing is, I had one of these things go by my house about a year ago. It literally went up my canyon. I live up Beachwood Canyon. It goes up the canyon. The cops follow them up the canyon. They wind out through all the side streets. They actually drive right by my house. It's kind of fun seeing your house from a helicopter. I realized I was missing a roofing tile up on the ridge. I had that replaced. You don't oftentimes get that few up there. And it wound around the house and eventually connected with Beachwood and went back down into Hollywood. And then the guy got on the freeway and the thing ended up, this thing was all over the news, and ended up out in Kenoga Park. This guy took the freeway, got on the 101, he drove all the way through the valley, got all the way down to the West Valley, I'm talking about 25 miles from Hollywood, got off, sped down like Tampa or Topanga Canyon or something. Eventually something happened down miles and miles away. Now, they could have cut him off when he headed up Beachwood Canyon.
1:09:54🔗
Adam
He actually went up, went all through the streets, turned around and then came right back down that way. Now, here's the deal. No, they can't set up a roadblock for fear of this. We don't want to agitate him. He might charge the roadblock or something like that. But here's my point. This is all going on in Hollywood at 3.30 in the afternoon. You live in Canoga Park and you're picking up your kid from school an hour later and this guy runs over your kid. How pissed are you?
1:10:28🔗
Adam
Right. Now, I'm saying this guy, it's like, okay, it's dangerous any way you slice it, but one way he's covered 85 miles. He's weaving in and out of traffic. He's going against the grain. How irate would you be if you were victimized by this guy a hundred miles after the pursuit started? This is a ridiculous policy.
1:10:48🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
The casualties become greater the longer you allow them to go out there, running stop signs, going, you know.
1:10:56🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
I say put your car to let them bash into him, piss him off a little bit, shoot his tires out, do what you can to stop them.
1:11:04🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Well, they weren't afraid to do their jobs back then. And it's true right now, they're really afraid of pissing off a certain group or God knows, you know, lawsuit or what have you, and having a group of people screaming and yelling at him.
1:11:14🔗
Adam
I just, you know, the deal is, is there's got to be some sort of mathematical equation for like each three and a half minutes of a pursuit. You put X amount of people in danger, depending on where it is, pedestrians, motorists, whoever. And because of that equation, you should just halt it as soon as you possibly can. Yeah. And it just seems like a horrible policy that we'll hang back and see what happens. Well, the guy freaks out. Then the other half of the time, the guy jumps out of the car and runs into some nursery or something.
1:11:45🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Right. Actually, you chase him all the way to the nursery where he parked and ran and jumped in. Yeah.
1:11:54🔗
Adam
Let's just take a vote. That's all I'm saying. All right. We're on the same page here, right?
1:12:00🔗
Adam
All right. Dedee Pfeiffer, my new best friend, our guest here tonight on the cover of this month's Playboy. And we'll be back.
1:12:39🔗
Hi, this is Mark from Blink-A-Nade 2, and you are listening to Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew on Loveline. I have a really big dick.
1:12:46🔗
Adam
Hey, Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew. Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. She's actually on front signing Playboys. Dedee is also on For Your Love, not to mention the cover and inside the issue of the February edition of this Playboy, which is out on newsstands now. Here she comes. Dedee, come on, baby. What is it with those Playboy nerds?
1:13:16🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Actually, I was talking to your guy out there about Rottweilers, but anyways.
1:13:19🔗
Adam
Yeah, but the Playboy really brings out the nerd. Like when we have rock bands in here and people come in and want to sign a drumhead or magazine or something, that's the street, the run-of-the-mill sort of street nerd. But when the Playboy issues come out, boy, you really dig deep. Super-nerd-ism coming out. And it's a weird, weird little, it's a weird life. These people, they camp out in front of hot spots, restaurants, trendy restaurants. In New York, if you ever go to the Riga Royal Hotel, there will always be a line of people standing out on the curb because celebrities always stay there and they hit them up when they come out. But they're selling the crap on eBay or whatever they make. They're living with this.
1:14:06🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
That's what someone said to me. I'm a sign, hundreds of them. They're like, all these guys are about to make a lot of money. I'm like, oh.
1:14:17🔗
Adam
And they go, you go, all right. Well, who do you want me to make this out to? And they go, just put your name.
1:14:23🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Just your name, yeah. And you're like, four of them. You're like, okay, why am I sending four white cards?
1:14:26🔗
Adam
Yeah, sign four white cards. And if you could put your date and if we just get your driver's license and we can authenticate this and a semen sample, that would be, we'll run that through the lab.
1:14:39🔗
Adam
Yeah, you get the white cards. And here's the thing that's always funny about that is, there's always a group of people that's out front of the Riga Royal Hotel over there in New York. And there's a group of 10 or 15 people. Now, not all 10 or 15 goes, oh my God, there's Adam Corolla from Basic Cable. There's two or three guys who are sort of in our show's range that run over. The other 10 are following the three that ran over because this is a potential celebrity here we gotta get.
1:15:11🔗
Adam
Some four foot Vietnamese woman will go, who are you? And you go, I'm a man. You sign. You know, and you're like, okay, is this for your kid, honey?
1:15:20🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
I had that last night. There was all these men asking for autographs. This little girl who was standing with a little book kind of just looked at me and thought, well, okay, just gave me the book. And I was like, I said, oh, sweetie, you want autographs? She's looking at me, yeah. I go, do you know who I am? She's like, no, I'm like, that's all right. I signed it.
1:15:39🔗
Adam
Yeah, one day I would like to conduct a little social experiment where we just have totally unknown civilian people stand in malls. And we have about 10 plants run up to them and get autographs and see how many, how many vermin just run along and get them to sign something too. I think you could, I think it would work.
1:15:59🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Last night I heard people going, who is she, who is she? Like down the line, Michelle Pfeiffer's little sister. Oh, and all of a sudden their pads of paper were flying out. I was at a WB All-Star party. I was there to promote For Your Love, but all the, most of the people knew was I was Michelle's sister, so they started throwing pads at me.
1:16:18🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Oh, I've had them say, can you have Michelle sign this as well and get it back to me? Oh, yeah. Or the fans have sent me letters saying, can you get Michelle's, I tried her, hit a wall, can you get it? I was like, oh, that's just kind of rude and nasty and gross and there's no way. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
1:16:32🔗
Adam
We're my friend Michelle, and just write your last name there, please. Thank you. Thank you.
1:16:37🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Could get Michelle, but I got your younger sister. Close enough, it's blood.
1:16:44🔗
Caller
Okay. I just had a question. I've been sexually active for a few years now, and I just recently, about six months ago, stopped having sex. The whole time that I was active, I've never been able to have an orgasm. Then since I've stopped, I have this, I don't know what it is, like sexual, I need to have sex, but I don't want to, and so every night, like almost every single night, I have a dream, which leads into an actual orgasm, but I can't do it when I actually have sex.
1:17:24🔗
Caller
It doesn't work. It doesn't work. I can always get, like, I start to climax, and then it's like, it just stops.
1:17:31🔗
Adam
Well, let me ask this, and maybe you don't know the answer, but you have a dream where you orgasm, and with women, since often times there's no product or evidence of the orgasm, maybe you're just having a dream that you're orgasming, and not actually orgasming.
1:18:03🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Sorry. I call them freebies. You just go to sleep, you wake up going, whoa, that was unexpected, and really most appreciated.
1:18:10🔗
Adam
Yeah. Me, I call them freebies, but the maid don't call them a freebie. That's called a bitchy.
1:18:17🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
You guys tell me, but what I've always thought is for a woman, when she can, in certain circumstances, but not able to while she's having sex, or even when masturbation is because of something in her head. Yes. For me, when I was younger, there was something mentally that was blocking me from going.
1:18:38🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
See, for me, it was skill. I mean, I'll be honest, masturbation enabled me to figure more about my body to know exactly how it's going.
1:18:45🔗
Drew
But it is for all women basically. It's a thing that needs to be developed. For men, it's already laid down.
1:18:51🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Yeah. So I think that for me, it was also like a little bit of shame and embarrassment. I was not raised as a sexual person. Actually, it was like the old school. You know, if you got caught doing anything such, you got slapped, punished.
1:19:05🔗
Drew
They were taking out bats and rolling up newspaper at your brothers. Didn't stop them. Right. You know what I'm saying? I guarantee you got ten times more attention to your brother taking the hands off themselves and doesn't stop them.
1:19:18🔗
Adam
So, Erica, well, you know the plumbing works, so that's good. And obviously you have some energy with sex. You started real early. And now you've decided to stop. So there's some energy there.
1:19:33🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Maybe she should try different ways of experimenting with herself alone in masturbation and experiment. And that could be with visual. It could be with books. It could be pictures.
1:19:47🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Okay. When I was, you know, we used to do it for me in years ago with Anne Rice novels, those vampire novels. Don't ask me why, but they were just so erotic because they weren't on the nose, like porno, or where it was just visually.
1:20:14🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
No, but I would like read the book. I go to sleep and have these incredible dreams, and I was able to unlock these hidden doors in myself. And then when I was awake, you know.
1:20:22🔗
Drew
See, that is not about shame. That is about the operation of your brain for the female. The men do not operate that way at all.
1:20:30🔗
Adam
Women, I hate to say this, but women will find a way to blame the man for just about anything. You know, you guys are in trouble. I have a trouble masturbating at 14, and it's like, well, guys did it. But no, you're just, women are just different. They're just, they're different beings, and there's nothing wrong with that. But do you have any, do you have any sort of mechanical suggestions for young Eric?
1:20:54🔗
Drew
But it's interesting, she, in describing how it needs to be done, it goes right to an emotional, emotionally connected experience, which is maybe what you should be teaching young women, is that find a way to enter that emotional space where you function sexually.
1:21:09🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
Well, maybe she should investigate the dreams. What's going on in the dream that's allowing her to unleash those hidden doors, and maybe bring that to her conscious world at night when she's alone, light a little candle and then try to recreate that. See, for women, that's the idea of what we are.
1:21:23🔗
Drew
You masturbate, you light candles, don't you? Or is that you kill a goat, you light candles?
1:21:28🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
It could be lighting a candle. For other women, it's like put on a leather and lock the doors, make sure that no one's peeking in your windows and just like, I don't know, don't do something really naughty to yourself, I don't know. I mean for every woman it's different.
1:21:39🔗
Adam
I think it's a good idea in that if she had something in her dream that brought her to orgasm, Focus on that. Then try to summon that up in your conscious life.
1:22:07🔗
Adam
That I was cooking. You know when they talk about deep frying turkeys? They just drop the old turkey in there. I was doing that with sheep, whole sheep, but yet then they were alive.
1:22:21🔗
Adam
Extra crispy, herd. Somebody was saying that this was cruel. I was saying, no, they're fine. Then a big piece of one of the skin broke off on one of the sheep.
1:22:34🔗
Adam
No, it didn't look that way. It looked like as if they were sheared and their skin had just been fried and darkened. Yet they were okay. But then I started thinking, maybe it did hurt the sheep.
1:22:57🔗
Dedee Pfeiffer
And counting sheep before you went to sleep to go to sleep? You were hungry?
1:23:01🔗
Adam
You count sheep to go to sleep, but in order to stay asleep, you fry them. People don't know that, Drew. Not you, Drew. Caller Drew?
1:23:12🔗
Hey, yeah.
1:23:16🔗
I deep fry sheep on a regular basis.
1:23:21🔗
Caller
Well, I've been, well, first of all, you guys, you rock. So thank you so much for everything.
1:23:32🔗
Caller
Okay. I've got a question about, I've been sort of contemplating getting a vasectomy. And I've gotten some, you know, some goods and bads. And I hear that you like people have a stronger chance of getting prostate cancer or whatever.
1:24:08🔗
Caller
I mean, it seemed bizarre for sure. But it's, you know, I certainly heard it around. I do have a son and he's great. I just won't have any more kids.
1:24:19🔗
Drew
Maybe there's some statistical thing out there that slightly increased the risk. I'll have to look it up.
1:24:24🔗
Adam
Yeah. And again, it will be able to be explained away that guys who get vasectomies are more sexually active and get more venereal diseases and that leads to the whatever.
1:24:35🔗
Adam
See, all these statistics, you can always, if there's a statistic that doesn't make sense, you can always turn the page and a few pages later, you'll find out what the real reason is. Thank you. All right. Like that crazy bitch who came on this show. Oh, what was her name? What was her name? That one from the abstinence department talking about health.
1:25:00🔗
Drew
Oh, I've been dealing with the pharmacy people to try to get a protocol together for getting people access to emergency contraception. It was bizarre. They were saying, we can't get a physician to sign on. I said, well, sign on. They were so paranoid about it, so let's get a little committee together of doctors so we'll all sign this thing. I said, there'd probably be a reaction from the right to life guy. They don't understand how this pill works. She goes, oh, no, no. Are you high?
1:25:25🔗
Drew
Pharmacy coalitions, and I said, are you high? Oh, no, it's the doctors who are worried about it. It's a turf war for them. I said, are you high?
1:25:35🔗
Adam
Well, a couple of things before we run to break, which we're running late for. I heard that Walmart is possibly going under because they're having some problems with their stock or something like that. And I say good, because these are the people that would not carry the morning after.
1:25:54🔗
Adam
Good, good. All you white trash bumpkins can go shop somewhere else now, you idiots at Walmart. Thank you. Go under. Good. And number two, to that crazy abstinence bitch who was on this show a year ago telling me that, what was she saying, Drew?
1:26:22🔗
Adam
We gotta figure this out. All right, we're gonna take a break and I'll be back to yell at her after this.
1:27:07🔗
Adam
Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That is Dr. Drew over there. Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. For Your Love, Sunday night, WB, 930, and also on the cover of this month's Playboy and in the pages. We have a Loveline correction. It is not Walmart. It is Kmart that is having a stock problem. So my pox on Walmart did not work apparently.
1:27:31🔗
Drew
And I went on the web and looked up any articles on prostate cancer and vasectomy, and I found one good 1999 article that showed clearly no link between vasectomy and prostate cancer.
1:27:41🔗
Adam
That is the beauty of that computer. And the last piece of unfinished business was the woman from the Absinence Foundation who was on the show. Said, and what got us started on this, beside my bitterness and willingness never to let anything go, is that you got to take a real close look at the statistics. They can be spun in many different ways and it depends whose Cuisinart they get put in. And for instance, this situation was, she said that women who were on birth control, meaning the pill, had a much substantial, substantial rate of increase in becoming infected for HIV. And I said, well, because they're on the pill and they're not using protection, I mean, they're not using condoms, their partners aren't, they're getting exposed more. And plus, you could also surmise that women who are on the pill were more sexually active than the ones that weren't. And they're putting themselves at risk. And she said, nope, not that. It is the pill that is making them a higher increase. And she said, substantial. And I said, what is the number? And she had no number. And I said, if there was a substantial number, you would know it. And she said, I could get it. And I said, you don't have it. And she kept saying, I'm going to get this number. And I said, you don't have it because you'd say it. And listen, bitch, I'm still waiting. It's been a year. Bring that number, you fat effing liar. Bring it. Bring me that substantial number, you liar.
1:29:15🔗
Adam
OK. And let me ask you this, to this person or anyone who knows her and you're lucky, I can't remember your name. I know you're Jenny. Jenny was her name? OK. You're a religious salad, right? What about lying? Isn't that something God doesn't want you to do? Yeah, that's a sin. And you could completely nullify all this by just bringing in that big substantial number that you claim exists out there that I know doesn't. So bring it in, you coward liar. Jenny Bionbi, somebody tell her to bring Adam that number. I know it doesn't exist, you liar.
1:29:54🔗
Caller
Well, I wanted to know if you can give me some advice. I'm married, very happy, I have a wonderful husband. He has got a beautiful ass. And...
1:30:08🔗
Drew
And it's just as hard for her to talk about it, you know, she's not used to talking openly about these kinds of things. It's a tough topic for her.
1:30:58🔗
Caller
And, you know, I would like to share enjoyment like that. I think it would probably make his, you know, orgasms better.
1:31:12🔗
Caller
Oh, I try to talk to him and all I hear is they, no. I mean, is there a way I can approach him? You know.
1:31:16🔗
Drew
They just realize the orgasms are not going to get better. That they're not doing this for him.
1:31:26🔗
Caller
I'd like to, you know, some advice on maybe, you know, talking him into starting something small.
1:31:34🔗
Caller
What's in it for me? I don't know. It's fascinating to me. I thought, well, I saw a German show. It was a clip from a German show on HBO. And they had a, I mean, a whole seminar on, you know, women doing that with their husbands.
1:31:48🔗
Adam
Yeah. They're such, you know, you know, the thing, you know, if you look at the two most refined and uptight societies, Germany and Japan, it's also where the most debauchery goes on, which says to me that when you try to keep people in too rigid a line, they snap and go south sometimes too. All that weird ass stuff is coming out of Germany. Meanwhile, if you live in an apartment in Germany and you have a wind chime out on your balcony, you'll get reported and they'll have to take it down. You know what I mean? Think about this, Drew. Nazi Germany. Coincidence?
1:32:22🔗
Adam
I think not. The point is, but if not writing you up for the wind, the guy who writes you up for the wind chime has got a dildo up his ass. Isn't it interesting that energy's got to go somewhere?
1:32:49🔗
Caller
Well, I mean, I do feel put together. I have a very loving relationship with my husband. I mean, it's very loving. He's awesome and bad.
1:32:56🔗
Adam
All right. Well, Kay, what about respecting his wish not to have something in his ass?
1:33:00🔗
Caller
Well, you know, I mean, I was thinking, hopefully I could get him to start small and I'd like to work up.
1:33:07🔗
Drew
Okay, Constance, here's the reality. It's not going to feel good to him. That's reality.
1:33:12🔗
Adam
Here's what I don't understand. Like I asked before, he doesn't want this. Why, what's in it for you to get him to do something that he doesn't want to do?
1:33:36🔗
Adam
Yeah, that's good. Who put her up to this? We gotta take a break. You wanna talk to her off the air?
1:33:43🔗
Adam
It just goes to show you that no woman has ever legitimately called and begged to do something in the ass of her husband. All right, we'll take ourselves a little break. Drew, talk to her off the air so we can suss her out. We'll be back.
1:34:04🔗
Caller
But I tried everything else and thought, what the hell? So I called the dateline and actually met a cool guy.
1:35:03🔗
Adam
WB, on 9.30 Sunday night, and also on The Current Playboy on Newsstands Now. Thanks a lot.
1:35:12🔗
Adam
We will be back in about 22 hours. Until next time, I'm Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo. Well, what's wrong with having clean shoes? I don't know, bitch, why'd you call?
1:35:22🔗
Caller
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