13:09🔗
Hello.
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Voiceover
Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew. Love Line Coast to Coast.
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Voiceover
Hey, everybody, it's the Love Line. I'm Adam Corolla, that's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew, board certified internist, addiction medicine specialist. Don't forget to watch The Man Show tonight. All new episode on Comedy Central 10 o'clock. And I'd like to welcome back to the show System of a Down. John and Chavo are both here from the band. Probably third, fourth appearance. Fourth appearance?
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Yeah.
14:22🔗
Adam
Well, the good news is, is a year only feels like about three months to us now that we're old.
14:27🔗
Yeah.
14:28🔗
Adam
Let me explain something very sad. Very sad, kiddies. You know how, when you drive to San Francisco, okay, forget whatever you're saying. No, here's what I'm saying. Since we are on around the country, you know when you take that ride to grandma's house and it's about two hours or Uncle Lou's or Disneyland or whatever the hell you think you're going to, some splash mountain or something, and it seems like it takes forever to get there, but then the ride back seemed about half as long, even though it was the same distance. That's what life is like. I mean you spend the beginning part of your life going, Christ, is it Christmas yet? And then the second part of your life going, holy ass System of a Down was in here a year ago.
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No.
15:24🔗
Adam
Everything that's gone is now whizzed. I've labeled. Toxicity is the name of the new CD. It is out September 4th. And where you guys, where can we see you guys? I got a list here. What's up?
15:43🔗
System of a Down
Well, we'll be doing a tour in September, co-headlining with Slipknot. That's going to go all across the country.
15:50🔗
I have no dates or nothing.
15:51🔗
System of a Down
Yeah, we don't know. We just know that we're going to Vegas one day and we're happy about that.
16:00🔗
Nothing planned right now, but tours come and go.
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So we're not sure of what we're doing after that, but there's a few possibilities of some cool tours.
16:17🔗
It's going to be in some parking lot.
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Do you remember that, Drew?
16:31🔗
Adam
Yeah, we were behind the stage, so all we heard was like the bass. And Drew was like, who the hell are those guys? I'm trying to eat chili.
16:46🔗
No, about an hour.
16:47🔗
Adam
That seemed like a long time. I mean, I don't mean that in a bad way. No, but you were, I mean, this is a few years ago. You guys were a fairly new band, right?
17:18🔗
Yeah?
17:21🔗
Caller
Yeah, I was wondering if it was natural to hate the sexual organ that you were born with your entire life.
17:34🔗
Caller
Not in my life currently, no. I have friends. I've never dated, though, and I've had these feelings my entire life.
18:03🔗
Caller
Because of the fact that I was growing taller, I was getting facial hair. I did not like that.
18:35🔗
Caller
That sounds like what I'd want to do. I didn't know if they existed or not. Oh, really?
18:40🔗
Adam
It seemed like the kind of thing that you would know about if it was something you were interested in at 17. I mean, it's not 12 or 13. You never heard about that?
19:00🔗
Wow.
19:08🔗
Adam
Well, hold on. Let me talk to everybody. Drew, do you think this is bogus? Do you guys think this is bogus?
19:15🔗
Adam
But is it because he has his answers sort of ready? Like, wouldn't he just be more confused and not be able to put his finger on it at this stage of life?
19:46🔗
Drew
I don't deal much with people that have gender reassignment. I see them occasionally. And most of them don't talk about having hated their genitalia. They talk about just feeling like a woman. And people I've dealt with that hate their genitalia usually have other kinds of psychiatric things going on and sometimes end up mutilating their genitalia.
20:16🔗
Adam
Yeah. Well, look, you don't have to make any decisions just yet. Just talk to a counselor.
20:42🔗
Drew
You ever have voices that people saying bad things to you? No. You have nothing like that going on.
20:48🔗
No, we don't.
20:52🔗
That's strange.
21:09🔗
Adam
Nobody ever, what? What happened to that voice? Straight answer. No one ever did anything to your penis without your consent?
21:35🔗
Adam
Oh, that's not bogus, Drew. Well, maybe, listen, I'd be angry at my penis, too, if I'd never masturbated.
21:42🔗
Adam
Well, I would hate my penis. Look, I hate your penis, too, if it's any consolation. I'm no fan of your penis. Drew, now that's a different story. I've got a poster of his penis above my bed.
22:13🔗
Adam
Why don't you do what I do or what I did starting out masturbating, use an oven mitten. You don't have to really come in contact with it. Jamie.
22:23🔗
Adam
Let me explain something. You got some serious problems. You understand that? Okay. So you got to get some therapy and work it out.
22:32🔗
Drew
If there were any other phenomenon, illness where you were threatening yourself with harm, we'd rush you to a hospital.
22:59🔗
Caller
I don't really take anything. The only medication I take is if I get sick and that is rare in itself.
23:18🔗
Drew
So you'd want to be a lesbian? Yeah. That is typical. That's typical of people that have these gender reassignments.
23:24🔗
Adam
Really? You can't just go down on a chick with a penis attached to you. You have to remove your penis in order to put your mouth on their vagina. What kind of retarded logic is that?
23:50🔗
System of a Down
Don't cut anything off and don't do anything because you can't take it back.
23:54🔗
Adam
But he thinks about, he sees women, but he sees them in a sexual way like as if he's a lesbian.
24:08🔗
Adam
Joe from Montana. Very amused over there. It says Joe-Montana up on the board. Thanks, Joe. What's up?
24:17🔗
Caller
Not a whole lot. First question. Dr. Drew, I wanted to ask you what you know about salvia.
24:21🔗
Drew
Oh, salvia. Not much. I hear about it once in a while. I read about it myself on the web. I've not seen much of it. Generally, these plant hallucinogens though are really potent. I've talked to people who have done them. Right? You make a tea or something out of it? Is it one of those?
24:36🔗
Caller
Actually, what I've heard is you smoke it in actually pretty small doses. They say the first time you do it, just smoke a gram to figure out what your tolerance is.
24:44🔗
Drew
They create more of an encephalopathy than a typical hallucinogenic experience that you just don't know where the hell you are and you're having these sort of wild experiences. People do very wild stuff and can lose track of time for several days at a time.
24:58🔗
Caller
Actually, it's legal in the United States as far as anything I've read. I also wanted to ask about that on the legality of it because I know you can order it.
25:05🔗
Drew
I mean, there are plants that have gypsum weed and there's Morning Glory Sea. There's other things out there that have hallucinogenic effects that are legal. But the rule of thumb for me is that if it's giving hallucinations as its primary effect, what I see, it causes brain damage. If you get how much brain damage before you see it, I don't know. But, and I just don't know.
25:28🔗
Drew
Yeah, it is the same, but we don't, we don't know. You know, again, with, with mushrooms and all, we, we have, I've never seen significant evidence of a real problem because people don't do much of that drug.
25:42🔗
Caller
Uh, no, I'm not writing a paper. I was just interested in it. I wanted to find out what I could about it before I.
26:08🔗
Drew
More than 30, 20. That's about as much I've ever seen anybody do it. And even with drugs like acid, it's that's the range when you start really seeing problems. People start seeing permanent trailers, which means their brain has been disturbed and disrupted. The chemistry or even the anatomy has been changed. Mood disturbances, panic, anxiety, all those things follow.
26:25🔗
Adam
You know, the mushrooms for me, it's like it's the same as going to the desert and riding dirt bikes, which is something I enjoy, something I talk about doing all the time and then never do it.
26:39🔗
Adam
Dude, we're going to get the bikes, we're going to get the truck, we're going to gas it up, we're going to get a case of beer, we're heading out to the desert, we're going to do some riding. And then a little caption six months later, we got to load up those bikes, we got to get a case of beer.
26:57🔗
Adam
We're going to meet at the IHOP in Conejo at 5 a.m., we're going to be gassed up, and we're hitting the desert. It never happens, but I enjoy it. And it's the same way I feel about mushrooms. Very enjoyable, never seem to do them. You guys ever do mushrooms?
27:19🔗
System of a Down
Yeah, because you have to come by and pick it up, so they have to know about it.
27:27🔗
Adam
Yes, that's why we're, you know, it's like I'm an Indian and he saved my life. Yes, yeah. I'm forever indebted to him. But John's house, it's not like a house with porn in it, it's like there was a huge pile of porn and someone put a shell over it. Which is a subtle difference, right?
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Yeah, hi.
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Caller
Yeah, I had a couple of questions. The first one was for the System of a Down. I'm a really big fan.
28:13🔗
Yeah.
28:18🔗
Yeah.
29:02🔗
Adam
And listen, Ed, here's the good news. You just put in whatever lyrics work for you and you'll just go through your life doing it that way and you'll be fine with it.
29:13🔗
Caller
Yeah, I love The Man Show. Me and my friend have come in to see the show. I don't know if you recognize.
29:35🔗
I got another thing to say to you, Adam.
29:43🔗
Adam
Look, when I was 15, I was reading Sullivan books. Is that right, Drew? Should I have been? Yes.
29:54🔗
Adam
Drew, didn't you do that on Thursday night? How surprised are you that it came out tonight?
30:03🔗
Adam
Engineer Anderson is on vacation, so Ken's over there manning the helm, but he doesn't know all of Anderson's buttons. Danny?
30:15🔗
Adam
All right. Well, hold on a second. Wait, wait, wait. I'll let him hang on. I don't like these punk kids with their attitude. Punk kids. This is my people Sabbath tonight. I shouldn't be here. Tyler, you're on with System of a Down by the way.
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Hi. What's up? First of all, Adam, Drew, you guys are awesome. Great. I had a couple of questions for System of a Down.
30:37🔗
Yeah.
30:39🔗
I was wondering if you guys are going to be on tour near San Francisco or anything?
30:44🔗
Caller
I'm sure this tour comes there. I'm not sure what the dates are. Let's see if Adam has them.
31:01🔗
Also, I got the new city, Toxa City.
31:07🔗
Yeah. I know. I got it early. Yeah. It's awesome though.
31:10🔗
The song ATWA, I don't know how you pronounce it.
31:14🔗
Atwa. Yeah. How Darren's singing in the background with Surge, I guess, heck of cool. And I was wondering how come he doesn't sing much more than that.
31:30🔗
Oh, really?
31:35🔗
Adam
Yeah. You all right there, Tyler? Yeah, I'm cool. All right. So they're coming on the 28th. Did you say, Drew?
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Roses are Red.
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I like it very much.
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Adam
Okay. Yeah, better. Because we've heard a few about me, but we haven't heard too many about Drew.
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Caller
Dr. Drew knows a lot. He's a very smart man. He stays away from pots. He calls people fat and he calls people gay, but he makes us laugh at the end of the day. He helps people who have sex with their friends' moms. My favorite website is drdrew.com. Dr. Drew has a beautiful wife. I'd care more about this if I had a sex life. Anderson called my first poem inaccurate and not that good. Well, Anderson, go to hell you should.
32:50🔗
Drew
I like the way, you know, I offer so much material to the creative that he has to throw in another character to the poem.
33:02🔗
Adam
You couldn't fill up 22 seconds worth of poetry without weaving Anderson into it. Oh, Danny, that's wonderful.
33:11🔗
Adam
Yeah, that is beautiful. That is a work of art. System of a Down is here. We're going to take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll hear something off the new System of a Down CD, which is out next month, early. We'll speak to Danny. He's 37. He has Tourette's. He exposes himself. He's known in the community as a molester. And he's running for public office. He wants to know what the most effective form of advertising is. We'll talk to him after this. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. John and Shavo are both here from System of a Down. Toxicity is the name of the new CD, which will be out on the 4th of September. Pardon me, we will hear something off of that CD in just a second. First, though, we'll speak to Danny, who's 37. Danny?
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Caller
Okay. I had a lot of problems growing up. And I've never really had a relationship in my life before. And I've never had a...
35:21🔗
Caller
Well, okay. I've never had a relationship and I've never had a sexual relationship. I spent my teen years and my 20 years, depression, sleeping all day long. I dropped out of school after like the eighth grade. And, okay.
35:56🔗
Caller
Yeah. But here's a big problem that's come up. A couple of years ago, I was just very isolated and very depressed and very alone. And in my isolation, I acted out by exposing myself.
36:48🔗
Adam
Hey Danny, Sunday night we're only doing a two hour show, so we got to kick this one along a little bit. You're acting out, yeah?
36:57🔗
Caller
Anyway, here's what happened. People in the community, like Neighborhood Watch type thing, now they treat me as if I'm a felon child molester. Never done anything like that in my life. In fact, I've never had, you know.
37:16🔗
Adam
It's not like you're jogging and your balls fell out of your shorts. You've pulled your pants down in front of some teenage girls.
37:25🔗
Adam
You didn't hurt anybody, you didn't touch anybody, but to say you did nothing like it is a little bit of a stretch.
37:35🔗
Drew
Yeah, but Danny, part of us helping you is getting you to dress reality and not to make, not to try to excuse this and that. Just deal with, deal in reality. The reality is you're a sexual offender and there are consequences for that and you're dealing with those consequences and that's tough.
37:48🔗
Caller
Okay, but I've had some of these people go to a job that I've had. Life is very difficult.
37:53🔗
Caller
They went to a job, they said, oh, he's a child molester. I've never been a child molester.
37:56🔗
Adam
All right, but listen, Danny, whether, I agree with you, you're not as bad as they make you out to be, but here's the deal. When you get the ball rolling by doing something out of line, then sometimes you get paid back more than what you should, but you still started it. You understand? I mean, I know you're doing a lot of externalizing about these A-holes in the neighborhood watch thing, and they're probably overzealous, and they're giving you a harder time than you deserve, but you still have to take responsibility for what's going on because you made the first move.
38:29🔗
Drew
And we understood it was sort of out of your control, and you were ill at the time. I understood.
38:35🔗
System of a Down
You should also keep in mind how you affected the kids that you exposed yourself to.
38:45🔗
System of a Down
Don't feel too bad for yourself. Also think of other people that you've affected in your life.
38:52🔗
Caller
I'm asking you, I want to ask you guys one question, it's a big one for me. How do I get my life back? A life I've never had, I've never had a relationship.
39:08🔗
Adam
Look, you need to, you need to not focus on a relationship so much and focus a little more on sanity.
39:16🔗
Adam
Yeah, relationships. Therapists and friends and leading a normal life and then all the good stuff will come after that. Meaning, you get your, you get your head straight and you have good friends and you have a support system and you have a therapist and you're able to get a job and you get all the other facets of life straightened out and then the girlfriends and the wives and the kids and the relationships start to, start to come in. But those don't really come in before, while your head's still spinning like a dreidel.
40:07🔗
Adam
No, they're not going to fix you. But you- Listen, the gym doesn't fix you either unless you work out. Oh, Drew, write that down.
40:16🔗
Adam
Yeah, no, I'm serious. You can't just show up at the gym and go, I got a membership. What's going on? I went an hour, four days a week, and look at me. I look like crap. You've got to go there and sweat a little. He's not sweating.
40:29🔗
Adam
Yeah. Danny's got a prom with the neighborhood watch. He's got a prom with the- It's kick.
40:36🔗
Adam
He's had a hard life, but I'm just giving him some tough love and I'm saying, Danny, you got to live in your shoes. You want to have a good life, you got to work at it.
40:47🔗
Drew
It really sounds like he's starting to though. He's getting work, he's interested in these things. But I think he needs a little more supervision. I think that would help him a lot.
40:54🔗
Hi, Adam.
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I have tons of respect for both of you guys. You guys are awesome.
41:04🔗
What?
41:07🔗
Yeah. Hi, System of a Down.
41:09🔗
You guys are cool.
41:10🔗
Thank you. I have a question for you guys. Okay. The radio station here will not play Chop Suey before 5 p.m. I was wondering what you thought of that.
41:26🔗
System of a Down
I don't think she knows. Well, you know, it doesn't really affect us one way or another. If they want to play it, that's fine. You'll have the album soon.
41:36🔗
System of a Down
Maybe it's a little too heavy for them to play at that time. What does that mean?
41:43🔗
System of a Down
It might be too aggressive for them. Who knows what the reasoning is? I mean, you'll have the album when it comes out and you can play it whenever you want.
41:49🔗
Adam
I've been to Santa Barbara. Everyone there is baked and they get up at like 3.30 or 4.00 in the afternoon.
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Yeah.
42:06🔗
Oh, cool.
42:10🔗
Yeah, we request it every day and they have kind of like a total request show at 8 o'clock. It's been number one for a couple of weeks, but they won't play it during the day.
42:19🔗
Adam
Is that KJEE? Yeah. Yeah, they're all stoned over there. That's not a real radio station.
42:25🔗
System of a Down
They can't find our record before five. There's a guy that comes in and organizes the room.
42:29🔗
Adam
That station is run out of an apartment that's above like a soup kitchen. We've been there.
42:38🔗
System of a Down
What the hell? They're not playing our song before five? That's going to change now. I'm going to call that place. Okay, good. All right. You know what? Keep requesting it and eventually they'll play it. They're going to bow down to the pressure of the people that are listening.
42:51🔗
Adam
Thanks. Write that down and write the gym analogy down. All right. This is from System of a Down off of Toxicity and this one is Chop Suey. There was Chop Suey from System of a Down, our good friends here on Loveline. Toxicity is the name of the CD. It is out September 4th.
46:43🔗
Caller
No, there's a bunch of places you can get. I can tell you where. So these kids that don't have it won't go get it. But all over the web, I guess, man.
46:50🔗
System of a Down
Luckily, there's certain things that they can't get, like what you have in front of you, the artwork that we work pretty hard on.
47:02🔗
System of a Down
Then we're also first 500,000 copies that go out are going to have, what are they going to have?
47:18🔗
Caller
We'll be on the line across the table. No, there isn't a CD enhanced CD-ROM thing that's going to show like 10 minutes of the making of the album.
47:33🔗
Adam
All right, so we're going to take a break, but let's just do a little selling here. Tom? Hello? Hey, you're 27?
47:46🔗
Caller
Yeah, it's been about that. Uh-huh. Yeah. And one of the other questions I wanted to ask was, I'm seeing counseling now. It's only in my second session, but I'm scheduled to see the psychiatrist next, and I know they're going to give me some medication, and what I'm worried about is I don't want any sexual side effects.
48:08🔗
Adam
All right. Now hold on, hold on, Tom. Now I don't want to talk about that. I want to talk some 16 year old chick who I'm going to try to talk out of a breast reduction because her ass is too small and she keeps falling over. You know what I'm talking about? That's what I'm looking for.
48:35🔗
Yes.
48:39🔗
Caller
I had a question. I was at a party a few weeks ago, and me and my best friend went down on each other. Right. A couple of days later, I got some weird irritated bumps down there, like around my lip.
49:04🔗
Caller
I went to a doctor and they said it wasn't herpes. Good. But I keep on getting those bumps like once a month, and it's like really starting to bug me now.
49:27🔗
Caller
And we always go there, and you were at the party, and you were wearing a gown on the couch, and she came in.
49:48🔗
System of a Down
You notice how in the movie, though, there's never any bumps involved anywhere.
49:56🔗
Adam
We're going to take ourselves a little break. System of a Down is here. We're just taking a little walk down memory lane and we'll be back. Memory lane.
50:05🔗
Loveline will be right back.
50:41🔗
Adam
Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew. John and Shavo are both here from System of a Down. Toxicity is the name of the CD out on the 4th of September. And two bottles. I always get a little hazy around this time of year because my months, my September, October, I've screwed up my entire life.
51:16🔗
Adam
Yeah. There's certain things in life. I think you just decide early you're going to screw up, and then you just go through your entire life screwing it up. For me? Well, I got a laundry list of stuff.
51:26🔗
Drew
I think it's how your memory orders itself. Yeah. Maybe the 8th and Oct got put together for you, and therefore 8th became October, and that's it.
51:35🔗
Adam
I wish it was that simple and that complicated at the same time. Sure, but it's not. Angelique? All right. 16, went down on your friend at a party.
52:05🔗
Caller
Yeah, and all she said was she didn't really know what it was, but they knew it wasn't like herpes or anything.
52:13🔗
Caller
Actually, it itches once in a while, but I guess it kind of itches down there, because I shaved my pubic area.
52:35🔗
Caller
No, it was at my sister's house at Long Beach, and me and my friend and our boyfriends went up to the room and our boyfriends actually, well, you could probably know what a guy would do at this situation, but me and my girlfriend went down on each other, and my boyfriend kind of watched.
53:05🔗
Caller
My boyfriend just turned 18 like a month ago, and I don't know how old her boyfriend is. He's like 22.
53:38🔗
Caller
Well, we lost contact after I told her about the bumps, because she thought I was trying to blame her for something, and she thought it was a good fall.
54:12🔗
Adam
Hold on. I can see I'm fast-forwarding like 20 years as their kid explains to the therapist.
54:18🔗
Adam
My parents proposed at Ausfest. Do you need more than that? What else do you need to know?
54:33🔗
Adam
So, Angelique, you know, you getting married is not going to get you far enough away from that memory.
54:45🔗
Adam
What goes on at modeling school? Do you walk around with a book on your head? How does that go?
54:51🔗
Adam
But what is it? I mean, did any of the famous models go to modeling school? Well, it's not like AAA baseball or something. It's not like you're running modeling drills all day and take an infield or something. What do you do?
55:05🔗
Caller
When you eat dinner, all they gave for you for dinner is a salad with some croutons or something. They're like, it's really hard discipline and stuff, and there is hazing that goes along, but.
55:33🔗
Caller
Well, I just got back actually. I just got back from England, and I was going to the school there.
55:39🔗
Caller
She's 16. She's been around the world. She's going to modeling school. How about high school? You go to high school at all?
56:01🔗
Adam
Poor Angelique. Hey, Angelique? Boy, you sound like you've been around. You sound smart, but you got a lot of stuff running around your head, too. So try not to act out too much, all right? Okay. You know what I mean?
56:40🔗
Adam
Hey, Angelique? Let me give you just a bit of worldly advice. You have to say no to some things sometimes, eventually. You know what I mean? You can't just participate in everything.
57:14🔗
Adam
Yeah, he's probably the dean over at the modeling school. Angelique, don't get pregnant.
57:22🔗
Drew
And you did the right thing, having a doctor look at those bumps. Go back if you're not satisfied with what they're telling you.
57:28🔗
Adam
You know what's going on tonight, Drew? It's like, I feel like, you know, it's our job to try to fix people up in like three minutes. But I feel like I'm working the pit crew, and whoever is driving the car just slammed it into the hay bales and rolled it five times and limped it into the pit. And the thing is like, let's get it back on the track, and I'm just going, no way. Just let's just stop the race. Just get out of the car.
58:04🔗
Adam
Yeah, well, it's like the first call we had with the penis. The guy hated his penis. He wanted to cut it off. Yeah, I didn't know where to begin. Just don't get anyone pregnant. Get some therapy and just relax. You get that happy call. Listen, all your kids get that TiVo. You'll never leave the house. That's my new plan. I got that TiVo. I don't get off the sofa now.
58:30🔗
Adam
Everyone get that Shavo. It'll change your life. You know, let me tell you something. There was a little bit frightening with my TiVo slash Shavo system. After a while, it starts gauging you and it starts picking your own shows.
58:46🔗
Adam
Picking your own, pick shows for you, so you get a little insight into your own viewing habits and psyche. Now, because what it'll do is, what it'll do is you'll start, you'll pick your shows. You know, I'll put Battlebots on there and Speed World and all this kind of crazy porno stuff.
59:05🔗
Adam
And then World War II and it'll start picking stuff for you. The other day, you know what it has on there for me? Darkwing Duck.
59:32🔗
1-800-LOVE-191.
1:00:19🔗
Drew
Hey Adam, I know we've been talking too much when I look at our call board here and see that all the calls. I've been waiting at least 40 minutes. Okay? All right.
1:00:28🔗
Adam
Well, I know this sounds like bad time, but I want to talk about my garbage man for about 20 minutes. Sons of bitches showing up at 6 AM. All right. We were just having a lively conversation about hair. Toxicity is the name of the CD from System of a Down. We'll hear something else off of that after a couple of calls. All right. Let's gear it up. Let's burn some calls. Here we go. Tom.
1:01:10🔗
Caller
What does she tell me? Well, she's basically wondering why I'm not, you know, asking her for sex. And I guess I'm kind of thinking, well, you know, every once in a while it would help if she came to me too.
1:01:32🔗
Caller
I don't know. Maybe because everything was too routine on what we did and there's certain things that she won't do and I completely understand why.
1:01:41🔗
Caller
Well, I've got problems with anxiety that I've been meaning to go for a long time. I used to get really violent, panicked.
1:01:48🔗
Adam
What is it that, why do you understand the certain things she won't do? Is there some history or something?
1:02:11🔗
Adam
And you, who understand what her history is, it sort of sounds like you're blaming her, punishing her in a way. Like, well, you could have sex, but she won't do wheelbarrow, so forget it.
1:02:28🔗
Adam
Right. Okay, but that's the issue. It's not that because she's, you know, not open to certain positions or something. You understand?
1:02:50🔗
Caller
It feels like it's just towards her because there's no problems. Why? Well, I don't know. Maybe it's just because, as I said, routine and.
1:03:08🔗
Adam
But look, something's up with you because you wouldn't go six months without having an encounter with your wife.
1:03:23🔗
System of a Down
Is that because she thinks you want these other positions or whatever that she's uncomfortable doing because of the abuse she's had?
1:03:30🔗
Caller
No, I don't think so. I mean, I can work around the things that she doesn't want to do. That's fine.
1:03:40🔗
System of a Down
Have you asked her if she feels that you're resenting her for what happened to her? Have you asked her that?
1:04:07🔗
Caller
No, I mean, we've never had couples' therapy at all. I've just had personal therapy with myself.
1:04:18🔗
Adam
Yeah, she definitely should. I mean, if she was victimized like that. Alright, everyone go to therapy and call us back in six months. And by then it will be a year since you've gotten light.
1:04:30🔗
Drew
This is really complicated. His original question was, what medications can he take that won't affect his libido? There are a couple of antidepressants that won't. Remeron, Welbutrin, Serizone. This manatean anxiety drug like Boostbar may not. So those are probably amongst the medicines they'll choose amongst.
1:04:49🔗
Adam
He's got a lot going on. Hey Tom, stop thinking so much and start porking. Do you hear me? I really mean it. I think people... Look, if you haven't had sex in six months with your wife, just nail her. Just do it. You may not feel like it, she may not feel like it, but you know what? You nail her once, you get to reset the clock. You're not insane already. Instead of six months ago, it was Tuesday.
1:05:12🔗
System of a Down
Do you ever notice that once you get started, you get into it a lot more? Sometimes when it becomes redundant, once you get started, you get into it.
1:05:23🔗
Adam
Well, this is interesting. Now it means we're not going to take any more calls to start. But let me say this about sex. So much of life is not about what you feel like doing at the moment, but what you know you should be doing, what's important for a relationship, what's important for work or family or whatever.
1:05:40🔗
Adam
Working out. You don't want to work out, but you go, OK, I got to do this. I'll feel good when I get into it. I'll feel good when I'm done work. When the alarm clock goes off in the morning. Sex can be this way on occasion, too, in a relationship. Drew, you don't know about that because you're a passionate, passionate man. But for some of us, we need a little kickstart. And sometimes you just go, let's just get started. I'll hit my groove about halfway into it.
1:06:03🔗
System of a Down
It's like dominoes. You just have to start it off and it does the job by itself.
1:06:08🔗
Adam
You need to go up the shirt of that first domino and get them all falling. I agree. Jessica?
1:06:17🔗
Caller
I have a question for Dr. Drew, actually. I've been terribly frustrated with this for a really long time. But I won't allow myself to have an orgasm. And it either through relations, and it created problems with relationships, and with guys or just through masturbation, I just will not allow myself to.
1:06:38🔗
Caller
I don't know. That's the problem. I think it's maybe I'm afraid of losing control or I'm just scared. I don't know.
1:06:53🔗
Caller
I have no idea. I don't know. I don't know what my body will do. I know I've come close and I either push the guy off of me or I hold my hand away.
1:07:04🔗
Adam
That's always that crazy one. Where it's like, stop, stop, get away. You're like, huh? You get really weird. Start from scratch.
1:07:34🔗
Adam
Usually the women we talk to, and Drew, tell me if I'm right or not. We talk to women who won't let themselves experience an orgasm. It's for fear that they'll become attached or vulnerable emotionally. Yeah, right.
1:07:50🔗
Adam
So it's usually something like dad died of cancer when they were three, or dad skipped out or somebody did something bad to him. But there's none of that with you, huh?
1:08:04🔗
Caller
Possibly. I don't know if that's it. I get to that point where I just can't handle it anymore and I just push them off.
1:08:35🔗
Drew
Then you got to experiment with dosing yourself to the point without getting over... What you're doing is you're going past the point of comfort into that state of sort of supersensitivity where you like can't do it anymore, right?
1:08:58🔗
Drew
Yeah. Why have the water flow right on you, the actual spout flow? Or you know what I'm saying?
1:09:26🔗
Adam
This is why women love baths and everything that has to do with it. Candles and salts and all that nonsense.
1:09:32🔗
Drew
Use that. Relax. Find a sort of space you can be in that you can sort of feel comfortable.
1:09:46🔗
Adam
Is everything good with him? Yeah. Everything's fine. Non-alcoholic, never abandon the family?
1:10:21🔗
Drew
I understand that. But occasionally in this country, there are people that are waiting until the thirties to get married. Believe me.
1:10:31🔗
Adam
How dare you weave my personal life into this show, Drew? You know, I don't like talking about myself unless it's in a very positive life. I'm saying she's twenty-nine. She's not really had serious relationships. She's never been engaged or married or anything. She's scared of being vulnerable. She doesn't want to be in.
1:10:50🔗
Drew
Yeah, there is some of that. But I think the high-strung piece is part of why her biology is so charged up. But I think she's got to figure out how to master her biology.
1:11:04🔗
Caller
Well, I have sex with my girlfriend on a regular basis. And every time I can't get an erection. It's just I can't get off.
1:11:34🔗
Caller
I don't know. I mean, I really do get into it. I mean, she is like beautiful, but...
1:11:41🔗
Caller
Well, I go for a long time and I just get tired of doing it because I mean, I'm not going to get off. So it's like, one time I went for like four hours or so.
1:11:47🔗
Drew
All right. So the problem is not about losing your erection. The problem is about not orgasming, right?
1:12:06🔗
Drew
But the point is that's a sort of award-winning erection. That's not an erection that has a problem.
1:12:42🔗
Caller
It could be more than once a week. No, man, because her parents are like real religious.
1:12:56🔗
Adam
That's the only bang my daughter once a week. Four times monthly. That's what it's written. And it's good. All right, what's that?
1:13:24🔗
Drew
That can impair a little bit, but not for four hours, though. Yeah, it can. That's not the big issue here, I don't think. I think this is the Corolla syndrome.
1:14:24🔗
Adam
I would like you to find your health teacher and kick him right in the nuts when you see him next, because he has failed you miserably.
1:14:55🔗
Adam
You know, as people who live in California, they get a little attitude. Southern California, they make fun of the middle of the country. But you know, we're kind of right, aren't we?
1:16:03🔗
Adam
Do you have a piece of straw hanging out of your mouth when you do that or you just nothing?
1:16:16🔗
Adam
You need to get into your prime. Okay. Here's what I'm saying. You need your prime position and then you need to get into that position when you're with her and your penis will be trained like one of Pavlov's dogs, right? Come right out. All right. We'll take a little early break. Drew, where are you going?
1:16:38🔗
Adam
That's right. We're going to hear one off of toxicity from System of a Down, and this one is called Psycho. That's from our friend, System of a Down. We're going to take ourselves a little bit of a break. The CD Toxicity is out September 4th, and we'll be right back after this.
1:20:39🔗
Love Line, we'll be right back. Call on the 1-800-LOVE-191.
1:21:23🔗
Adam
Shavo and John are both here from the band. Antoxicity's name is CD out on September 4th. And all right, this time we're getting through some calls. That's right. Here we go.
1:21:39🔗
Caller
You're welcome. Thank you for having me. I've been dating a girl for like 11 months. And she's 17. And I started dating her knowing that she was kind of bisexual. I mean, she fooled around and experimented. And I didn't really expect it to date this long. I just thought, you know, that's a quick thing. Throw one in and go. She's wanting to kind of have like a threesome. In other words, bring me into it. I was wondering, well, one, if I should do it. I mean, I would have done it like if she'd done it like sooner in a relationship where it would have just been all fun and games.
1:22:13🔗
Drew
If it's something I should do, if there's any complications involved or the complication is the relationship won't last too long. But you're okay to take that risk.
1:22:38🔗
Drew
Yeah, but still it's the same thing. I understand that it's not a person having sex, of course. Isn't that going to affect you, you think?
1:22:45🔗
Caller
Maybe on the sub, I mean, not visibly. I mean, I've thought about it, and I know, like, theory is a lot different than practice, but...
1:22:52🔗
Drew
Right, once you get past the arousal of the whole thing, don't you think it's going to sort of eat at you a little bit?
1:22:57🔗
System of a Down
Think of it this way. Someone else is going to know the person that you care about in an intimate way, whether you're there or not. Someone else is experiencing that with your girlfriend that you care about.
1:23:07🔗
System of a Down
So if that's something you can handle, go for it. If you can't handle it, or if that thought sickens you, then don't do it.
1:23:14🔗
Adam
Well, he doesn't know. I mean, he has a gut feeling that it will. But she's pretty chaotic, right, Devin?
1:23:24🔗
Adam
Right. Here's my point. There's two ways to look at this. One, I agree with John, and I agree with Devin, and I agree with Drew, and probably Shavo, when I say that, yeah, it's not a healthy thing to do. If you guys are in love and you want the relationship to last, it may break it up. On the other hand, she's a handful, she's chaotic, and this thing may not go another three months anyway.
1:23:49🔗
Caller
I was going to ask if she was kind of hostile when I said I didn't really like the idea. So, I mean, if she's that hostile about it, would it just be better to maybe say, or maybe just to get one last thing in and do it?
1:24:36🔗
Drew
Yeah, I mean, it could be good for her if they could stay in a relationship. He's a good guy. We're sort of tossing her out, like, oh, screw it. Enjoy her while you've got her and get rid of her.
1:24:50🔗
System of a Down
Yeah. It doesn't seem like she, like he said, she got upset when he said he didn't want to.
1:24:57🔗
Adam
On the other hand, if she's screwed up and she's 17, she may be 10 years away from ever being able to really be in a relationship. Yeah, possible. All right. Give it a try. There are no answer. Jennifer?
1:25:11🔗
Caller
I have this open sore on the outside of my vagina and it's been there for over a month and it won't go away.
1:25:37🔗
It's like an inch wide now.
1:25:39🔗
Drew
There's a lot of things get infected and form little draining holes down there and you got to get that looked at.
1:25:46🔗
Drew
I think we'll hot warm baths and they'll put you on some antibiotics probably that'll be okay.
1:25:54🔗
Adam
Oh, let me write that down. Now, I got an argument with Jimmy the other day. I said a sits bath was just filling a bathtub halfway up with water sitting in it.
1:26:08🔗
Adam
No, that's what I said. I said, you probably could but that doesn't necessarily, you don't have to meet that criteria.
1:26:20🔗
Adam
No, we're not looking up sits again. This show is boring enough. But it's not sits like sit down, right?
1:26:39🔗
Caller
Yeah. My first question is, has there ever been a case where say someone like Olden the Hamkin is younger than Young the Hamkin?
1:26:54🔗
Adam
I think when Kevin Smith was in here, we may have had a discussion about Love and Death, which is a Woody Allen film that Drew and I enjoy, where that line has been lifted from. Go ahead, Ethan.
1:27:05🔗
Caller
I'm 27 and I had a bout with depression a little while ago, and I ballooned up with my weight after that, and I can't get back down.
1:27:16🔗
Adam
All right, so I can tell Jimmy that you don't have to put anything in there to make it a sitzbath.
1:27:37🔗
All right.
1:27:48🔗
Pretty much.
1:27:55🔗
Maybe, I guess.
1:28:08🔗
Drew
Well, it's really, to lose that kind of weight, it's about restricting calories for a long time. And you might want to meet with a dietician and make a map out of plan and really get structured about this, get serious.
1:28:32🔗
Adam
Well, listen, I owe her a phone call, actually. So if you want me to pass something along, I'll tell her.
1:28:39🔗
Adam
I'll just tell her something bad's heading her way from a fat Ethan from, where's he calling from?
1:28:51🔗
Adam
Wow. All right, Ethan. All right. Hey, listen, just look. I don't think you got to go talk to a doctor. You know what you got to do. Just don't eat so much and exercise.
1:28:59🔗
Cool. All right.
1:29:08🔗
Hey.
1:29:26🔗
Caller
I got the first one and it's great. I don't know how you do what you do because you just go so fast. And I just want to say hi. How you doing? Thanks for calling.
1:29:54🔗
Caller
I'd just like to say you guys talk me to sleep just about every night and I appreciate it.
1:30:12🔗
Caller
My question is, I did Ecstasy about three weeks ago when I was on vacation. Ever since then, I've been having these dreams and I wake up and it feels like I'm on the drug. In the dreams, I take the drug again. And then I wake up and I have to feel all of the sensory.
1:30:30🔗
Drew
That's fascinating. Using dreams are actually very common with stimulants, particularly cocaine, and people use a lot of it. Have you been using a lot of Ecstasy?
1:30:39🔗
Drew
I have not heard of that effect from Ecstasy. Usually, I believe that that is due to the reinforcing properties of the drug, that they're so powerful in terms of just reinforcement of the brain, that the belief that you've used it is enough to induce the high. I've never heard of that from Ecstasy, but it makes sense that it could happen.
1:30:57🔗
Drew
Or maybe he's having some residual true flashbacks and they're just happening at night and you're sort of converting that into a dream.
1:31:05🔗
Adam
Yeah, because you know sometimes when you're asleep and you're experiencing something, you don't want to wake up so your mind just sort of weaves it in.
1:31:14🔗
Adam
Right, right. You can turn some sort of noise down the street into some guy playing a bass drum in your dream, anything not to wake up. So if you're, but would you be having these experiences while you were asleep?
1:31:27🔗
Drew
You'd have, your sleep would be altered. I mean, you'd be having different experiences.
1:31:30🔗
Adam
Right. So if you're having a different experience while you're asleep and your mind needs to explain that and not wake you up in the process, then it would weave in you doing the X in order to explain the feelings you were having. So there could be that too. Either way, you're a deep ass buddy.
1:32:07🔗
Caller
No. It's been a long time since I've done anything. You just smoked pot for a while and that was...
1:32:25🔗
Drew
Tim, just be careful because what starts to happen is there are residual effects from ecstasy.
1:32:58🔗
Yeah.
1:33:00🔗
Caller
Yeah. I was in school wearing a System of a Down shirt. I asked a question for System of a Down, and it's red, and it has like a guy on it curled up in a ball, and System of a Down on the back, and my teacher made me take it off because she thought it had a penis on it.
1:33:28🔗
System of a Down
No, he's actually a really cool guy. Why is your teacher, I mean, censorship? Time to take a closer look at it before she just makes you take it off.
1:33:36🔗
Caller
Yeah, I wore it back and I wouldn't take it off. Well, actually, if you take it off again, then I had my brother wear it and then he got like almost expelled for wearing it.
1:34:01🔗
System of a Down
We're going to hook you up. We'll get in your way. But you know what though? Just tell your teacher that, tell her a little bit of information about us. Maybe she'll be a little more understanding.
1:34:09🔗
Drew
Now we suddenly have four calls from Maryland. Everyone wants to tell you about their tale of law.
1:34:34🔗
Adam
The good news is you get a free pass for the System of a Down concert whenever they come to your town. All right.
1:34:47🔗
Adam
Hey, do they have like Rorschach test t-shirts? That would be a good idea. I've never seen one.
1:35:10🔗
Adam
Yeah. You put that Rorschach test and people walk around. Some people see a butterfly, others see a dead hooker. You can really gauge people like when you're at a party. You can figure out like who you want to talk to and who you want to stay away from. Let's take ourselves a little bit of a break. When we come back, we'll speak to Ashley's 15. She wants to know about pot brownies. Yeah. After this. I'm Adam, that's Drew. Shavo's here. John is also here, although he's not here. He will be here from System of a Down. Toxicity is the name of the CD, out September 4th. And let's pile ahead and talk to Ashley, 15.
1:37:17🔗
Adam
If somebody eats a pot brownie and then heaves after they eat the pot brownie, you don't have to call up and ask the question, is it possible to throw up after eating a pot brownie?
1:37:31🔗
Caller
I wanted to know. I just wanted to know if you could get like something wrong with your stomach or...
1:37:55🔗
Adam
Yeah, let me say this. Let me kiss the band's ass for a second. Tons of bands in here, lots of big names, big bands, all the time rarely get this kind of response and these kind of kudos for a band. Is that right, Drew?
1:38:13🔗
Adam
Drew, it's important for you just to repeat the last word I say when you're concentrating.
1:38:22🔗
Adam
We rarely get this kind of response to a band. Isn't that right, Drew? Rarely. Rarely.
1:38:43🔗
Caller
No. I went to a party about four and a half months ago, and I lost my virginity there, but he had a condom on. And then about two and a half months later, I got an at-home pregnancy test and it came out negative.
1:38:58🔗
Caller
And I still haven't had it now, but in between then I've been like pulling out other guys and like I get a couple of guys' head and-
1:39:06🔗
Caller
No. Like I went to the doctor because my tonsils are really, like, really, really swollen. They do all this stuff on my tonsils.
1:39:15🔗
Caller
They do about 10 G's out. And they said I had tonsillitis, so I'm getting it removed soon, but I still haven't had my period.
1:39:39🔗
Drew
But did you tell your doctors that you hadn't had your period, the ones that were taking care of all this?
1:39:43🔗
Caller
Yeah, I told them, but I didn't want to tell them because my mom was in the room. I didn't tell them about all the guys that I've been with.
1:39:50🔗
Drew
You got to get a pregnancy test. That's the most likely cause for this still, please. You can't take all these antibiotics if you're pregnant, nor can you have your operations. You've got to get this checked out.
1:40:04🔗
Drew
And you've screwed around since. Come on, get a test, please. Talk to the doctors about it, all right?
1:40:11🔗
Adam
Can she take another over-the-counter test? Those are just as accurate these days, right?
1:40:16🔗
Drew
Yeah, and then she needs to talk to the doctor if that's not the case, about what is going on here that's causing her to lose her period.
1:40:29🔗
Caller
You might be good at it, and I'm looking at the screen and it says 15. I'm going, ah, I should have said that.
1:40:40🔗
Adam
There's no sex. I mean, yeah, you might make out. Somebody would get into a fight. Somebody would do something to somebody else. One of the guys would pass out. We'd duct tape him to a Lazy Boy or something or take pictures up, draw a penis on him with a marxolot. Who's doing all the screwing at these parties? What's going on?
1:41:08🔗
Adam
Probably it was one guy who was having all the sex. Yeah, I think you're right. Toby, you're 21? Yeah. What's up?
1:41:19🔗
Caller
Let me first say that it's an honor to talk to you guys. I have this invention. You know you can buy these things at 7-Eleven. They're like self-blood alcohol content test strips. You put them on your tongue for five seconds and it tells you you've had too much to drink. It's like they put these on a beer bottle.
1:41:49🔗
Adam
Yeah, the alcohol from the beer bottle would screw it up though. But you're moving in the right direction.
1:41:55🔗
Caller
You have something to cover it up with. A little sticker you pull off and then you just lick it.
1:42:19🔗
Drew
No, go talk to somebody about that. Maybe at least in your stage you can get something going on.
1:42:23🔗
Adam
Hey, what do you do? What do those tests do? You mean, are they blood or are they? Saliva. Saliva, right? None of that stuff is any good though. I mean, all that like home breathalyzer stuff.
1:42:35🔗
System of a Down
So if you drink a beer or like you just have a sip of a beer and you put your tongue on that, wouldn't, because the alcohol is right on your tongue.
1:43:04🔗
Caller
I wanted to say hi to you guys. System of a Down. You guys are my favorite band. What's up?
1:43:31🔗
System of a Down
I don't even know where we're playing in LA. In September. So I'm the wrong person.
1:44:01🔗
Adam
That's right. And me and Drew are two of the six nameless women. All right. Let's take ourselves a little break. We'll be right back with System of a Down.
1:44:14🔗
Um, back in a minute.
1:45:03🔗
Adam
All right, well, I'll tell you what. Everyone go out and get toxicity when it comes out September 4th, and Shavo can get his Caddy, and John can get his Camaro SS. The 350-350? No. The Chevy 350 small block in it with the 350 horsepower? That's the one you want. I think Camaro just went up to 350. Or they may have had a big block in there. 429 or something. Oh, tomorrow night Henry Rollins is going to be here. And we'll be talking compression ratios with him. And injection versus carburetion. So until next time, this is Adam Crowe for Dr. Drew saying Mahalo.
1:45:41🔗
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