Monday, August 20, 2001

1:01🔗 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

1:10🔗 Voiceover Loveline, Coast to Coast.

1:13🔗 Adam Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LLVE-191, Dr. Drew, board certified internist and an addiction medicine specialist. Tonight, we're happy to have Henry Rollins on the show. Hi, Henry.

1:31🔗 How are you doing, man?

1:35🔗 Adam Henry is scarier when he's not in the studio for some reason.

1:38🔗 Henry Rollins Yeah, I don't scare you guys.

1:40🔗 Adam Come on. Henry, are you in?

1:43🔗 Yes, I am.

1:44🔗 Drew Are you flashing on this? We did this with him when you and I were in Florida.

1:47🔗 We did.

1:48🔗 Drew He was in here, remember? That's right. Isn't that weird?

1:50🔗 Yeah.

1:51🔗 Adam All right.

1:52🔗 Not that weird. I need you to stay together with you guys.

1:55🔗 Henry Rollins I'll do it.

1:56🔗 Adam Thanks, Henry. We always enjoy having you on the show.

1:59🔗 Get some, get some, get some.

2:02🔗 Adam And thanks for staying up because I know I've done that New York run a few times at 1 a.m. to 3 a.m. and it's a little bit of a bitch.

2:10🔗 Henry Rollins I have to be up in a few hours to go spend a delightful amount of time with Howard Stern.

2:16🔗 So I've got a few more hours of sleep before that starts.

2:19🔗 Henry Rollins Beautiful. So you're the good part of my day.

2:21🔗 Adam Oh, thank you. And you know, Henry, that brings me to a point which is I've mentioned at a time or two. Something you never hear about show business is how tiring it is. I mean, how screwed up the hours are.

2:33🔗 Henry Rollins Yeah, there's a lot of lost sleep in this business.

2:36🔗 The hours are screwed up, but it's still not that tiring.

2:39🔗 Adam You know, because there's a bunch of chopped up kiwi and cheese everywhere you go. It's not that bad and you can't complain, but it's screwy, screwy hours.

2:48🔗 Drew Yeah.

2:48🔗 I think Drew has less sleep than all of us.

2:51🔗 Henry Rollins No, I think he's doing all that other stuff.

2:52🔗 Drew In fact, I just went through a 36-hour period of sort of full moon where people fall out of the sky into the emergency room. But let me assure you that's worse. All right.

3:01🔗 Adam I still feel sorry for us big celebrities, especially Henry. Nice is the name of the new CD, which is going to be out tomorrow, right, Henry?

3:10🔗 Yeah.

3:10🔗 Adam Which is today for you.

3:13🔗 True.

3:15🔗 Adam And that is the Rollins Band. And there's going to be a tour that's going to go, a headlining tour that's going to go through the end of September. Is that going everywhere, Henry?

3:23🔗 Yeah.

3:23🔗 Henry Rollins We've been on it for about 20 shows now. And it'll go to the end of this year and then we'll start again next year and go till August. So it's about another year's worth of shows happening.

3:35🔗 Drew Adam, imagine if you could have just gotten to hold the cover of the Rollins Band CD when you were 15.

3:40🔗 Adam Yeah.

3:40🔗 Just that beautiful.

3:42🔗 I'm getting a little bit of flack for that.

3:43🔗 Drew But it beats the girl on the side of the blow up raft that you used to masturbate to.

3:50🔗 Adam How dare you, Drew. Look, there's nothing wrong with lusting after a woman whose picture is on the side of a raft box when you're 15 at the big five.

3:59🔗 Yeah, but when you're still doing it at your age, Adam, that's where we call in Dr. Drew.

4:05🔗 Adam But Henry, it's important for me to stay in touch with my younger side, literally because of the job I have to do with the kids every day.

4:12🔗 Yeah, it's good for you to always be in touch with the boy in you, I guess.

4:17🔗 Adam Well, here's something off of Nice, the new CD, like I said, out tomorrow. Henry's also got himself a book called Smile, and that's out now. You can check out. If you want to find some tour dates, or you want to buy a book, or you want to do any of this stuff, you just do the www.henryrollins.com and you can get all the information you need. Right, Henry? Yeah. All right. So you know how it goes. We'll take some calls. We'll hear some songs and we'll chat more to Henry Rollins. Heather?

4:45🔗 Caller Hello?

4:46🔗 Adam You're 14?

4:47🔗 Caller Yeah.

4:47🔗 Adam What's up?

4:48🔗 Caller I want to know if your hymen grows back after a certain amount of time.

4:52🔗 Adam Mine didn't.

4:53🔗 Drew No, it doesn't.

4:54🔗 Caller It doesn't?

4:55🔗 Drew No.

4:56🔗 Caller Oh, OK.

4:57🔗 Adam What happened to yours?

5:00🔗 Caller I was just my ex-boyfriend and we had sex.

5:03🔗 Drew Why would you want to come back?

5:05🔗 Caller I was just wondering because one of my friends said that it came back.

5:09🔗 Drew No, it doesn't. But why would that be a good thing if it were, let's say?

5:14🔗 Caller I'm not saying I just wanted to make sure.

5:16🔗 Adam OK.

5:16🔗 Drew It doesn't come back.

5:17🔗 Caller OK. I just wanted to say you guys rock for taking all of our calls. You're quite welcome.

5:21🔗 Adam Thanks, Heather. Heather, pay attention in health class next time, all right? OK.

5:28🔗 Caller I just started health class.

5:30🔗 Caller OK. Good.

5:30🔗 Caller OK.

5:31🔗 Adam You haven't got to the Hyman Repair part yet.

5:34🔗 Caller OK.

5:34🔗 Adam Take care of yourself. And be careful with those guys.

5:38🔗 Caller I'm not planning to have sex any time soon.

5:40🔗 Adam All right.

5:41🔗 Drew Was it kind of disappointing?

5:44🔗 Caller Yeah, because I got really drunk and I blacked out and I guess he had sex with me.

5:49🔗 Drew That's called a rape, Heather.

5:51🔗 Caller Well, the thing is, I still had a crush on him, and from what people told me, I was willing or something.

6:00🔗 Adam Yeah, but if you don't remember, then that's rape.

6:03🔗 Drew But it's a rape, but she's had a tough time proving it. People saw her. But be that as it may, is there alcohol in your family, Heather? People drink a little bit?

6:15🔗 Adam My dad.

6:16🔗 Drew Yeah. The fact that you're blacking out at 14 does suggest that you may have that disease and you really, really got to take care of this.

6:22🔗 Adam It's an interesting angle, which is like he raped me. Yeah, but I had a crush on him. So how much rape is it? Let's talk to Karen, who's 31.

6:34🔗 Caller Hi, guys.

6:34🔗 Adam What's up?

6:35🔗 Caller I was thinking we get a delay here in Denver, and I'm listening to System of a Down when y'all were talking to them the other night. They're who's on.

6:43🔗 Caller Henry Rollins, you rock.

6:47🔗 Caller Anyways, I heard y'all talking about the other night. I think Drew was telling you, and you were saying something about you mess up the month of October in the eighth month, they call the eight October sometimes.

6:59🔗 Adam Yeah, I don't even know what I do. All I know is I don't read very well, I don't spell very well, and I still have number problems with the numbers that coincide with the names of the months.

7:09🔗 Drew He does. August keeps coming out as October with him.

7:13🔗 Caller Well, technically, he's right. When the months were named, September, October, November, Wait, wait, wait.

7:20🔗 Drew Oxford 8, right? Wait, wait, wait. I just had a curiosity. Was that back in medieval times?

7:26🔗 Caller I'm not sure when they did that.

7:27🔗 Drew Because energy is having dreams about killing Huns on fjords, and urinating on them, right? Isn't that what it is?

7:34🔗 Adam I wet myself one time. Well, I wet myself a dozen times over the last 14 years, but it's not a problem.

7:43🔗 Drew But you're in a suit of armor, and you're killing Huns.

7:45🔗 Adam That was the one time. I could not get my armor down. Look, Drew, I don't care about being technically right with the numbers. Allison? Alyssa? I mean Alyssa.

7:57🔗 Caller It's Alyssa.

7:58🔗 Adam Alyssa, you're 16. You're on with Henry Rollins.

8:01🔗 Caller Hi.

8:02🔗 Caller Hey.

8:04🔗 Caller Yeah, I have this really bad anxiety problem to the point that last year I missed almost a whole year.

8:10🔗 Adam Oh, boy. What do you mean you missed a whole year of school, you mean?

8:14🔗 Caller Yeah, almost.

8:16🔗 Caller Why?

8:16🔗 Adam You can't go in because it makes you too anxious?

8:19🔗 Caller I shake and I make myself sick.

8:21🔗 Drew Do you vomit?

8:23🔗 Caller Sometimes.

8:24🔗 Drew Are you seeing a psychiatrist?

8:26🔗 Caller Well, my dad changed because the psychiatrist we were going to wasn't listening to his point of view.

8:33🔗 Drew What was his point of view?

8:34🔗 Caller He said that I was doing better on a medicine, which I really wasn't. But my dad thinks he knows.

8:42🔗 Drew What's important though is that you see someone and you're being disabled by psychiatric symptoms, it should be easy to control. And that's awful.

8:50🔗 Adam Well, what should she take?

8:52🔗 Drew You know, it's sort of irresponsible me to be making specific statements.

8:56🔗 Adam Ah, live a little.

8:57🔗 Drew But there are serotonin re-uptake inhibiting medicines that they could certainly start with and different ones work better for different people. But Paxil is a good one for panic and anxiety sometimes.

9:07🔗 Caller Well, I took that one, but they took me off of it because I was getting really nauseated off of it.

9:12🔗 Drew Did it work?

9:13🔗 Caller Yeah.

9:14🔗 Drew Okay, so there you go. And you might get someone who can sort of adjust the medications a little more carefully before you. And most of the anxiety medicines are addictive, so you have to be kind of careful with them. But low doses of them sometimes are good. The medicine called Boost Bar is good. There's lots of things that can be done for anxiety. Therapy definitely will be a good thing. There's a whole, and the University of Washington has a whole behavioral management program for anxiety disorders. So it's something really you should take advantage of. Why don't you check out the university's program, right? Okay. What did you do?

9:43🔗 Adam Just stay home those days?

9:44🔗 Caller Yeah, I would just stay home and hide from like the world.

9:47🔗 Adam Geez, I wish I could have pulled that one off in high school. Go to the university.

9:50🔗 Drew I remember one of the heads of the psychiatric department specializes in anxiety.

9:55🔗 Adam So did you get held back a grade? Yes. And you didn't do any homeschooling?

10:00🔗 Caller No, my dad doesn't want me to do that.

10:03🔗 Adam Where's your mom?

10:04🔗 Caller She's in Boston.

10:06🔗 Adam Well, she doesn't want you to do homeschooling, but as long as you're home for the day, shouldn't you learn something?

10:12🔗 Caller Yeah, I'm a very smart girl.

10:14🔗 Adam I know. You just figured a way to get out of school. You're only seven-eighths of school.

10:19🔗 Caller Well, I had to go to court for it.

10:21🔗 Adam Okay. Well, I guess if you don't show up, they take you to court. Wow. All right, take care of yourself, all right? Get on those medications. And I know you're angry at your dad, but leave the guy alone.

10:32🔗 Caller Okay.

10:32🔗 Adam Isn't it your mom that skipped out?

10:34🔗 Caller No, it's a long story.

10:36🔗 Adam All right. But you're living with your dad, right? Yes.

10:39🔗 Drew It's why you're anxious though, right?

10:41🔗 Caller Probably.

10:41🔗 Adam Your dad's like a tight guy?

10:43🔗 Caller He actually used to be nervous himself.

10:46🔗 Drew Do you have some sort of post-traumatic stress reaction? Or did you see some awful trauma or something?

10:51🔗 Caller They used to fight pretty bad, but that's all I can think of.

10:54🔗 Caller Do you have flashbacks?

10:56🔗 Caller Sometimes.

10:58🔗 Adam She wasn't a non. She just saw her parents get into a spat.

11:01🔗 Drew When you're four, you see that. You might as well be a non.

11:03🔗 Adam Really?

11:04🔗 Caller That's where PTSD comes from.

11:06🔗 Drew That's where all the character logic problems come from.

11:08🔗 Caller It's a mess.

11:09🔗 Adam Henry, you buy that?

11:11🔗 Caller Henry's asleep. Look at Henry.

11:13🔗 Adam I just said that.

11:13🔗 Caller No, I'm just listening intently. Yeah, I saw a lot of domestic aggravation growing up and it definitely left a mark on me.

11:22🔗 Adam Yeah. Did your parents get divorced eventually?

11:26🔗 Henry Rollins They got divorced before I was standing up talking and stealing cars and that kind of back and forth thing they were doing with me as the ping pong ball between was not so easy to be young and deal with that horrible.

11:39🔗 Adam Yeah.

11:40🔗 Henry Rollins It always makes you very destabilizing.

11:44🔗 Adam When they start using the kid to barter in the relationship, it's crazy. I mean, there could be no more selfish act in the world. Could there be? No. All right. I'll look at him. He's got himself a CD out and a book out. He's a fall asleep in New York. Margaret?

12:02🔗 Caller Yeah. Hello.

12:03🔗 Adam You're 19. What's up?

12:04🔗 Caller How are you doing today, Adam? Drew, how are you?

12:06🔗 Caller Good. I have a question.

12:08🔗 Caller Sometimes I fantasize about being raped, but I don't ever want it to happen. But I want to know what that means about me.

12:15🔗 Adam Maybe you're just a fan.

12:17🔗 Caller No.

12:18🔗 Caller Drew?

12:19🔗 Drew I don't know that there's any sort of, I certainly can't make any blanket statement about you based on that fantasy. Well, now a lot of women have this, but I can't say it means something global about her personality structure.

12:30🔗 Adam But don't you think most women have a fancy about being taken by a man, not the guy who eventually raped you, the drunken wino from the park with the hepatitis, but I mean taken sort of almost forcefully.

12:47🔗 Drew Yeah, absolutely. I also was thinking lately, do you agree that a lot of men have a sort of, Henry, you bring it on this one if you think it's true, a real heavy desire to protect women or certain women?

12:58🔗 Caller Oh, yeah.

13:00🔗 Drew I mean, really like an extremely powerful urge to do that. Yeah.

13:05🔗 Adam I think men have that. I think women have an instinct to be sort of ravaged sometimes. It's taken.

13:11🔗 Drew But taken, but consumed, not like ravaged, you know what I'm saying? Fused with almost.

13:17🔗 Adam It was more, it was kind of like when In Gone with the Wind, when Rhett Butler said, kiss me. She's like, no. And he's like, kiss me, you fool. And, you know, they clamp it on and they like it halfway into it.

13:30🔗 Drew And then she's singing next morning.

13:33🔗 Henry Rollins The caller is still on the line?

13:35🔗 Caller Yes.

13:36🔗 Henry Rollins Margaret, have you ever had a boyfriend who hit you?

13:39🔗 Caller No.

13:39🔗 Henry Rollins Okay.

13:40🔗 Drew So you've never been the victim of some sort of violent crime or anything?

13:43🔗 Caller No. All right.

13:44🔗 Drew So it's just, it's just the, your, your primitive brain speaking to you.

13:48🔗 Caller And Dr. Drew, I have a question for you.

13:49🔗 Caller What was your main motivation for getting into the field of work that you work in? Because that's what I'm starting to go for. And I wanted to know what helped you keep going.

13:58🔗 Drew The field of work I'm in is pretty weird. I'm in a weird combination. I'm an internist, so I do general medicine all day, and then I run an addiction recovery program. I've been running medical and addiction services in the psychiatric hospital for about 10 years.

14:10🔗 Caller Well, was there anything that got you interested in the psychiatric work, just like helping people?

14:15🔗 Adam His dad made him do it.

14:17🔗 Drew No, no, not the psychiatric part. Wow, weird luck.

14:20🔗 Adam You've got to be a doctor or you're out.

14:22🔗 Caller No, on your own, man.

14:24🔗 Adam No half-Jewish son of mine is not going to be a doctor. That's what he said.

14:27🔗 Drew But you know what? I really see the big health problems of our time, particularly young people's problems, as being sort of easily sort of folding into the mental health area, particularly addiction and that kind of thing. So I've just naturally gravitated all that. I'm a rapist.

14:45🔗 Adam Dr. Drew, please, please you set it up. Thanks, Margaret.

14:48🔗 Caller Just in for me.

14:49🔗 Adam The same school.

14:50🔗 Drew Just get in medical school. Just don't worry about the rest of it. Just get the hardest thing. The University of Arizona is a great program.

14:57🔗 Adam My dad's dream was for me to get into carpet cleaning, as you know.

15:01🔗 Drew He saw that it don't come true. Yes.

15:03🔗 Caller He must have delighted. My dad.

15:05🔗 Adam My dad called me the other day. I send him to Philadelphia once a year because that's where he's from and he can't afford his own plane tickets and once a year I pay for his plane ticket. He called me two days ago. He wanted an upgrade in the hotel room. It's like, listen boy, I'm 70 years old and I stay in these dumps each time. How about I stay somewhere nice this year?

15:28🔗 I was like, how long are you going to be there?

15:30🔗 Adam It's like a week. How much? Like $2.25 a night? All right, dad, live it up. Live it up but no tombstone. You're squandering your tombstone money, dad.

15:41🔗 Drew I'm going to keep you in the jar of my fireplace.

15:45🔗 Adam Bianca? You're 16. You're on with Henry Rollins.

15:48🔗 Caller Hey. I have a question for Dr. Drew.

15:52🔗 Caller Yeah.

15:53🔗 Caller Okay. Two days ago, we were having a party back to school bash, and we went out back to smoke some weed. After I had done that, they told me it was placed with opium. Yeah.

16:08🔗 Drew I've seen that most of the back to school banners, opium, weed.

16:12🔗 Adam Right. Welcome freshmen. Here's some opium pencils. So what did it make you feel like?

16:19🔗 Caller At first, I was feeling pretty good. But then later on, I was going numb, and I started panicking, and my heart was beating so fast, and I started freaking out thinking I was going to die.

16:33🔗 Drew That's a pot thing. That's not an opium thing.

16:35🔗 Adam Is that because they told you about it?

16:39🔗 Caller It might have been.

16:40🔗 Drew Yeah, I think so. Have you ever had panic before? Do you smoke pot regularly?

16:45🔗 Caller Every now and then.

16:46🔗 Drew Did it ever give you panic before?

16:48🔗 Caller No.

16:48🔗 Drew Okay, well it can. Sometimes, I've seen cases where three or four times a pot panic like that occurs, and then it keeps occurring even when you're not smoking pot. It's like it opens up a pathway that keeps on occurring.

16:59🔗 Caller Well, that's my other thing. Mental disability runs in my family.

17:06🔗 Adam All right. Well, stay away from the drugs then, right?

17:09🔗 Drew Yeah.

17:10🔗 Caller I tell myself that every time. What?

17:13🔗 Adam You're 16. How long have you been doing battle with yourself?

17:16🔗 Caller How long?

17:17🔗 For two years.

17:18🔗 Adam Two years?

17:19🔗 Caller Yeah.

17:20🔗 Adam Okay. So do you have addiction in your family?

17:23🔗 Yeah.

17:23🔗 Caller All right.

17:24🔗 Adam So you got to stay away from this. Well, here's the deal, Bianca. Here's what I want to say. It's as if you have diabetes. Between your family's history of mental problems and your family's history of substance abuse problems, you got to be careful. You have to go. You can have a nice, long, healthy, good life, but you got to kind of be careful. You could screw it up pretty quickly. Because you have a sort of predisposition to that.

17:53🔗 Caller On the other thing, I was...

17:55🔗 Adam Yeah.

17:57🔗 Drew Okay. All right.

17:58🔗 Adam Question B.

18:00🔗 Caller Yeah. Is speed really bad for, like, does it have real bad effects?

18:06🔗 Drew Well, Bianca, based on what Adam just said, what do you think? Just based on your predisposition.

18:11🔗 Adam I can do speed, but you can't.

18:14🔗 Caller Then, that's the deal.

18:15🔗 Drew Now, should you get involved with it and you keep going with it for a while, yes, high dose speed over a few years can basically do the same thing as moderate exposure to ecstasy. It can burn out the limbic system of the brain. People have a lot of memory problems.

18:30🔗 Adam Yeah.

18:30🔗 Caller It's a pain in the ass.

18:32🔗 Adam All right. So please take care of that. Like I said, you already got one foot in the bucket when it comes to this stuff. Don't mess with it. Rollins Band. Yeah, Rollins Band, everybody. We got to hear something from a nice new CD. I got the CD in here. Oh, okay. Should I just rub it on the microphone?

18:55🔗 Caller Yeah.

18:55🔗 Drew Somebody want to come get this? Do you want to mic it when you have them?

18:58🔗 Caller Henry, what do you want to hear? I don't know. Oh, I don't know. Something that's short so you don't cut it off halfway down the road.

19:07🔗 Adam Oh, we wouldn't do that to you, Henry.

19:10🔗 Caller How about a nice, something fast?

19:14🔗 Adam Something fast.

19:15🔗 Drew And short.

19:16🔗 Adam Something short. Should I tell you the cuts and you tell me where to stop?

19:20🔗 Henry Rollins Well, how about playing the first song on the record?

19:23🔗 Adam One Shot?

19:24🔗 Drew Hey, we can't do that right now because I've got to listen to it to make sure it doesn't cut.

19:27🔗 Caller Oh, there's no bad words or anything.

19:29🔗 Adam Well, he's got to cue it up and do that anyway, so we'll hear it on the next break. But I'll tell you what, we'll take one more call, we'll take a break and then we'll hear something from the new Rollins band. What is that, Lila?

19:41🔗 Caller Hi.

19:42🔗 Adam Hi, you're 15.

19:43🔗 Caller Hi. Well, like last year, I got expelled from school and it wasn't really for one reason. It was just because I wasn't listening to any rules and I wasn't going to class and everything.

19:55🔗 Drew What was going on at home that was making you do all that?

19:58🔗 Caller It's just been for a long time.

20:00🔗 Caller Like it's not really that they ignore me.

20:03🔗 Caller It's kind of like I'm not really taken seriously in anything, you know?

20:06🔗 Caller Right. It's kind of a cultural thing. I don't know.

20:08🔗 Caller Anyway, but...

20:09🔗 Drew What's the culture?

20:10🔗 Caller Armenians.

20:12🔗 Drew The system of the deaf?

20:14🔗 Caller Yeah.

20:14🔗 Adam The system of down guys, Armenians.

20:16🔗 Drew Yeah, but what do they do?

20:17🔗 Adam They don't take women seriously?

20:19🔗 Caller Yeah, kind of.

20:20🔗 Adam Or they don't take kids seriously?

20:22🔗 Caller Kids, actually.

20:23🔗 Caller Kids and especially women.

20:25🔗 Adam Okay.

20:25🔗 Caller My parents aren't really like that. It's just that they've always had problems amongst themselves and everything. And my mom's kind of selfish and I've really never had a relationship with my father like at all.

20:34🔗 Caller Right.

20:35🔗 Caller I was going to therapy for a while and stuff and I don't know. Like she sent me to a psychiatrist because she said I had severe anxiety problems like at night when I was sleeping, I would cut myself.

20:47🔗 Drew At night?

20:48🔗 Caller Like what? I don't know.

20:49🔗 Caller Like when I would wake up and I guess I don't really remember the nightmare that was.

20:53🔗 Drew Wow. Did you experience, did you see some awful thing happen or something that happened?

20:57🔗 Caller I don't know. I don't remember.

21:00🔗 Drew Do you think something happened to you?

21:01🔗 Caller That's what my therapist, she told me that I might have had something happen to me as a kid that I have like blocked out of my memory or something like that.

21:08🔗 Drew Well that kind of, you know, those sorts of fugues and cutting yourself and those extreme sleep disturbances suggest something heavy happened. But you know, maybe it's just all the chronic trauma of being in that family.

21:21🔗 Caller Yeah.

21:22🔗 Adam Well what's the question Lila?

21:23🔗 Caller Well okay, the question is like I was with my boyfriend for two years, like almost two years and recently like his family never liked me and you know my family never whatever that whole story and we just broke up when I got expelled and stuff but it's just that I haven't been able to move on. It's been like seven months and I can't stop. It's not that I'm obsessed but it's like I don't know like that was the first, you know what I mean?

21:46🔗 Adam Yeah, I don't know. What's your guess?

21:47🔗 Drew Three months you're getting near obsession, wouldn't you say?

21:50🔗 Adam I don't know. I've obsessed for a year, maybe a month, maybe more.

21:53🔗 Drew But I did not call it obsession.

21:55🔗 Adam Oh, you called it obsession? All right. Hey, Lila? Yeah? We're calling it obsession. But you're not calling him, right?

22:02🔗 Caller No, I don't even talk to him. I'm not like that.

22:05🔗 Drew It's obsessive thinking, obsessive thought, perseverant.

22:08🔗 Caller No, not even that. It's just I can't get over him. Yeah, that would be... He made me feel so comfortable.

22:15🔗 Drew Lila, that's excessive thinking about that, thinking about not getting over it, thinking about how it was.

22:20🔗 Adam No, no, no.

22:23🔗 Drew No, you don't think about him at all ever?

22:24🔗 Adam No.

22:25🔗 Caller No.

22:26🔗 Drew You don't ever think about him?

22:27🔗 Caller I do, but I have been on dates with other guys.

22:30🔗 Drew Yeah, I understand, but in the meantime, you're obsessed with this.

22:32🔗 Caller No, I can't get over him.

22:35🔗 Drew Yeah, that's called an obsession. That's called an obsession.

22:37🔗 Adam No.

22:38🔗 Caller But why is it an obsession?

22:39🔗 Adam No.

22:40🔗 Drew Because you can't get over him.

22:41🔗 Caller But there's different levels. There's infatuation, there's love, and there's obsession. I've never been obsessed with anything in my entire life.

22:46🔗 Drew Jesus Christ. Now you're obsessed.

22:48🔗 Adam Listen, if I was lying with this mom and put a loaded pistol on her nightstand, I hope she used it in the middle of the night. For Christ sakes, you're driving me insane this one. Lookit, Lila. Take care of yourself, would you? You're a smart person, but you're all up in your head.

23:08🔗 Caller I can't help it.

23:10🔗 Adam I know, but you're going to have to get yourself some help. You got a good IQ and a good brain, but you're a little nutty. You got to do something with that.

23:19🔗 Caller How and what?

23:22🔗 Adam I don't know if it's about exercise or taking walks or listening to classical music. I don't know what it is with you, but you got to find something.

23:30🔗 Caller I've tried.

23:30🔗 Adam How about like pottery or yoga or something?

23:33🔗 Caller I've gone all through those stages.

23:35🔗 Adam How about that salsa dancing?

23:37🔗 Caller I've been doing dance.

23:39🔗 Adam You got to do something. You need something.

23:42🔗 Caller I know. I went through that stage. I was trying to find my passion to get rid of all my other problems. It didn't work.

23:47🔗 Adam Hey, Henry.

23:49🔗 Henry Rollins How old are you? Well, you know, 15 is a really difficult age and it's easy to get hung up on the person you were really into because you think you'll never feel that way about anybody else again.

24:00🔗 Adam No.

24:02🔗 Henry Rollins Okay. Stop saying that.

24:04🔗 Caller I've heard this all before.

24:05🔗 Henry Rollins Okay. Well, I'm not trying to argue with you. All I'm saying is I'm much older than you are and I remember that age is being extremely difficult. So what I'm suggesting is perhaps you give yourself a little bit of slack to be young and not necessarily know everything and at your age.

24:23🔗 Caller But I don't try to.

24:25🔗 Henry Rollins Hold on. Let me finish. Emotions can be pretty tidal wave size. And so sometimes it's hard to see, get a little bit of perspective. The important thing to do is to stay active and stay healthy and know without a doubt in your mind that things do get better even though they seem pretty dark and unfathomable at some points.

24:46🔗 Drew And you must find a way to trust people.

24:49🔗 Caller I do trust people.

24:50🔗 Adam All right.

24:51🔗 Henry Rollins No. This guy, it's all right.

24:53🔗 Caller All right.

24:54🔗 Adam Do you have any friends?

24:55🔗 Caller Yeah, like one. No, but I used to have so many, but you know, when you get expelled.

25:02🔗 Adam OK.

25:03🔗 Henry Rollins Well, it sounds to me like you should be getting back in school.

25:05🔗 Caller No, I am. All right.

25:08🔗 Adam Let's get some friends. That's what you need, friends. You need some professional help. And a little help.

25:14🔗 Drew It's about just sitting down, shutting up, taking direction. That's that.

25:19🔗 Adam Yeah. Boy, 15, boy. All right. Henry Rollins is over there in New York. We're out here in LA. We're going to hear something off the new CD. It's called Nice. It is out in stores tomorrow. We'll be right back with Henry Rollins. Hey, Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Henry Rollins is our guest tonight. He's coming to us out of a studio in New York. It's late for him and we thank him for hanging with us tonight. Nice is the name of the new CD. It's going to be out tomorrow, August 21st. Also, if you want to find any of Henry's books or other albums or any tour dates or anything like that, you can just check out www.henryrollins.com and you'll get all the information you want. So, why don't we take a call and then we'll hear a song from the Rollins band. You there, Henry? Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Carlos? Hello. Seventeen?

26:16🔗 Caller What's up? My question is, is it possible for a doctor to find out if a girl is having sex? They already know that she did once. If it's possible for them to find out if she is?

26:32🔗 Drew No.

26:32🔗 Caller It isn't?

26:33🔗 Drew No.

26:34🔗 Caller Okay.

26:35🔗 Drew Not unless she's pregnant?

26:37🔗 Caller No. It's just that my girlfriend's parents threaten her to take her to the doctor's.

26:42🔗 Drew Or if you find semen in the vagina, they can test for that.

26:46🔗 Adam Or on her. You can go over her with a black light. My dad used to have the doctor do that to my sister. I found Satan's name written out in semen on her stomach, actually.

26:57🔗 Caller Okay.

26:58🔗 Adam Hey, Carlos? So you're, what, how old is your girlfriend?

27:03🔗 Caller She's 16.

27:04🔗 Adam She's 16 and her parents don't want her having sex with you?

27:07🔗 Caller Well, her parents don't want me around her.

27:10🔗 Drew How come?

27:11🔗 Caller They are very overprotective.

27:13🔗 Drew Is there something about you they don't like?

27:15🔗 Caller They don't want her with any boyfriend, with a guy, with making contact with a guy at all.

27:20🔗 Adam All right, so nothing personal, it's just that you're a guy.

27:23🔗 Caller Yeah.

27:23🔗 Adam And you're into their daughter.

27:25🔗 Caller Yeah.

27:25🔗 Adam Okay. Well, don't get her pregnant.

27:28🔗 Caller I'm trying not to. How are you doing that? You're using condoms, but we're not having sex like constantly, just once in a while.

27:36🔗 Drew Yeah, all you need to do it is once to get pregnant, right? Yeah. Okay, so you're using a condom every time?

27:40🔗 Yeah.

27:41🔗 Adam No. You don't believe them?

27:43🔗 Drew No.

27:44🔗 Adam Carlos, you're using a condom every time?

27:46🔗 Yeah.

27:47🔗 Adam Okay. And same one?

27:49🔗 Caller No.

27:50🔗 Adam Okay, just checking.

27:51🔗 Caller One more question. Yeah. Do you guys think it's crazy to wait for her until she turns 18? It's going to be like in about maybe 16 months?

28:01🔗 Adam No. Wait for, wait for what?

28:03🔗 Caller Well, when her parents are like, when she can do whatever she wants without being locked down, because she's like on lockdown.

28:11🔗 Adam Is she out of control or her parents just hyper?

28:14🔗 Caller I mean, she's like a good girl. She got good grades and everything. She can't talk on the phone, not even to girls. She can't go out.

28:23🔗 Adam Are her parents have some kind of a wacky religion or something?

28:27🔗 Caller No, they're Catholic and she has a stepmother. That's her and her stepmother is mostly the one with the problem.

28:34🔗 Adam Do you see her at school?

28:36🔗 Caller Yeah.

28:37🔗 Adam When do you guys have time to have sex?

28:40🔗 Caller So one, like in a blue moon when we can get out of school without her parents finding out.

28:47🔗 Adam Right. Okay.

28:48🔗 Caller It's only been like a few times in the last two years.

28:52🔗 Adam Right. It's that weird daytime sex. Yeah, I guess.

28:56🔗 Drew But you've been going out with her for two years?

28:59🔗 Caller Yeah, on and off.

29:00🔗 Drew You want to hang out another 18 months?

29:02🔗 Adam Yeah, 16. It'll be fine. All right, Carlos.

29:05🔗 Caller All right, thanks a lot.

29:06🔗 Adam Hang in there, there, buddy.

29:07🔗 Drew I mean, why not with Carlos? You know what I mean?

29:11🔗 Adam Why not?

29:11🔗 Drew He's really into her. He seems like a decent guy.

29:14🔗 Adam Yeah, and he's smart. He's just hanging back until one of the parents dies, and then he's going to swoop in, and have nothing but sex with her. All right, let's say here's something from the Rollins band CD. This one's called, CD that is, is called Nice, and this one's called One Shot. There's a lot of flaws there again, Anderson. That's the Rollins Band off of the new CD, Nice, which is coming out tomorrow. Henry Rollins is our guest tonight. He's in New York in a studio, and it's real late over there, so we appreciate him staying up. We will hop back to the phones and speak to Lori, who's 39. Lori?

32:54🔗 Caller Yes.

32:55🔗 Adam What's up?

32:56🔗 Caller Well, after my daughter was born, I started experiencing extremely painful orgasms.

33:03🔗 Drew Where's the pain?

33:05🔗 Caller Inside. I don't know exactly where.

33:07🔗 Drew Deep inside? Yeah. Did you have it looked into?

33:11🔗 Caller I told my doctor about it, and he just kind of like made a joke about it. Now is that it?

33:17🔗 Drew All right. You need to go back and take it very seriously. Is it sort of a visceral kind of pain, like an ache, or what kind of pain is it?

33:25🔗 Caller It's kind of like a really severe cramp.

33:28🔗 Drew Is it every time?

33:30🔗 Caller Yes.

33:30🔗 Drew Did you ever have endometriosis?

33:32🔗 Caller Huh?

33:33🔗 Drew Did you ever have endometriosis?

33:35🔗 Adam Really? What kind of joke did he make?

33:38🔗 Caller Well, he asked me, well, how do you know you're having an orgasm? And I looked down and he goes, why? Because it hurts? And I said, well, yeah, pretty much, basically. But you think you saw that funny, too, huh?

33:51🔗 Adam No, I just thought the hi-hat was funny there. Oh, okay. All right. And how's everything else going?

33:59🔗 Caller Well, it's okay, but my daughter has what they call loose ligaments, and I want to know what can cause that.

34:07🔗 Adam What's going on in the background there, Laurie?

34:10🔗 Caller Somebody's laughing at something. I don't know, I'm in another room.

34:13🔗 Adam Oh, okay.

34:14🔗 Drew Does she have a connective tissue disease?

34:16🔗 Caller Pardon me?

34:17🔗 Drew Does she have a connective tissue disease?

34:19🔗 Caller I don't think so.

34:20🔗 Drew Loose ligaments is just a description. I just heard people call it double-jointed, like those loose joints.

34:26🔗 Caller Okay. Well, they were trying to accuse me of drug use during my pregnancy.

34:32🔗 Adam Oh, yeah. But you have done some drugs in your day, right?

34:35🔗 Caller Oh, yeah. In my day, yeah. But I even quit taking my prescription medication.

34:42🔗 Drew Which is what?

34:43🔗 Caller Well, which was, I've been off that for over a year, which is Xanax and Coronapin for panic disorder.

34:50🔗 Adam Hey, hey, what would you do when drugs do to our ligaments? Would that affect that, Drew?

34:55🔗 Drew Not that I'm familiar with. What drug were they particularly worried about?

35:00🔗 Caller I'm not exactly sure. They just said suspected drug use because of loose ligaments.

35:08🔗 Drew That's the news to me.

35:09🔗 Adam You ever do any speed?

35:11🔗 Caller Yeah.

35:12🔗 Adam Yeah, you got that voice.

35:14🔗 Drew Yeah.

35:15🔗 Caller Thank you. What does that mean?

35:17🔗 Adam I don't know. When you started talking, I just started thinking about speed. I don't know why. Oh, well.

35:23🔗 Caller No, it's been quite a while.

35:25🔗 Adam So you're good and clean now?

35:27🔗 Caller Definitely.

35:28🔗 Adam Alright. Taking care of your daughter?

35:30🔗 Caller Yep.

35:30🔗 Adam Alright. So, Drew, what should she do about the painful orgasms?

35:34🔗 Drew You got to go back there and take it more seriously. Maybe it's a spasm of the pubococcus muscle. Maybe you have an endometriosis that's sitting there causing irritation, some of that around the ligament or something. So when you move during the contractions, orgasm causes pain. I'm not quite sure, but it needs to be looked into.

35:49🔗 Adam What about through oral sex? Still pain?

35:52🔗 Caller No. Yes, definitely. Oh, okay. I'm thinking, never mind.

35:57🔗 Adam I bet I could give you a painless orgasm.

36:00🔗 Caller You bet you could, huh?

36:01🔗 Adam Yeah, I think I could.

36:03🔗 Drew That's one thing that little painless is good for.

36:04🔗 Adam Yeah, thanks. I'd like to give you a try.

36:06🔗 Caller Oh, I bet.

36:07🔗 Adam All right.

36:07🔗 Caller Okay.

36:08🔗 Adam All right, go tell the doctor to quit joking about it this time. All right. Okay, take care of that kid.

36:13🔗 Caller All right, thank you.

36:14🔗 Adam You got a husband?

36:15🔗 Caller I'm a widow.

36:17🔗 Oh, oof.

36:18🔗 Adam What happened to him? OD?

36:20🔗 No, actually.

36:20🔗 Adam Motorcycle?

36:22🔗 Caller No, congenital heart failure.

36:24🔗 Adam I knew it.

36:24🔗 Drew Congestive heart failure?

36:26🔗 Caller Yeah, whatever.

36:26🔗 Drew At what age?

36:28🔗 Caller What age? Right after his 43rd birthday.

36:31🔗 Drew Wow. That's drug use, right?

36:34🔗 Caller Um, I would think so.

36:36🔗 Drew Yeah, that's drugs.

36:37🔗 Caller It was actually alcohol.

36:38🔗 Drew Yeah, well, it damages the heart muscle just the way, you know.

36:41🔗 Caller Right, yeah.

36:43🔗 Adam Not too far off of OD. All right, Laurie, take care of that kid of yours. Stay sober, okay?

36:47🔗 Caller Okay, thanks.

36:48🔗 Adam Be careful. All right, take care. All right. I got a weird vibe from her. I'm like a scary speed vibe from her. Um, we are going to take ourselves a little break. Henry Rollins is over there in New York. We're out here in LA as per usual. We'll come back. We'll talk to a young man of 17, has a question about asking girls out and hear more from Rollins' band and all that after this. Hey, everybody, Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Henry Rollins is our guest tonight. Henry's out of New York and he is staying up with us. He's here to promote NICE, which is the new CD, which is out on August 21st. That is tomorrow, everybody. And it's today if you're hearing this show on a one-day delay. All right, Henry, thanks for hanging with us. And let's keep going with the calls. We'll talk to Matt, who's 17. Matt.

37:52🔗 Caller Hey, Adam.

37:53🔗 Adam Hey, Matt.

37:53🔗 Caller I always want to talk to you. I dig The Man Show a lot. Love the Juggies.

37:57🔗 Adam Thank you.

37:58🔗 Caller Well, anyway, my question is, well, first of all, I want to start with my kind of problem that I have. All my life, up through high school, I'm a senior now, you know, I've been made fun of a lot and I've, you know, been kind of shy with the ladies, but, and there's, now that I'm a senior, there's this one that really, really digs me a lot. You know, she's around me all the time. And, I'm just really, really shy to ask her out.

38:24🔗 Adam You pansy! But you know that she's into you, though.

38:28🔗 Caller Yeah, I know she's into me.

38:29🔗 Drew Are you afraid if you get going down the road with her that you're gonna be sort of sucked into a relationship that maybe you're not sure you want to be in?

38:35🔗 Caller Well, I think cause I did just get out of jail for a sexual offense. So, that's another reason why I'm really scared to ask her.

38:43🔗 Drew What was the offense?

38:45🔗 Caller It was attempted molestation of a minor. Ooh, I know.

38:49🔗 Adam Well, I think just about every 17-year-old's done some time for attempted molestation of a minor.

38:54🔗 Drew And how minor a minor?

38:57🔗 Caller How minor?

38:57🔗 She was six.

38:59🔗 Adam What's up there, Matt? What's going on?

39:02🔗 Caller Well, when I was... when I was ten, my older cousin molested me. I didn't get any help, which was... I know the wrong thing to do.

39:11🔗 Drew So, have you recently gotten some help?

39:13🔗 Caller Yeah, I've been in the process of getting help now.

39:16🔗 Drew Are those some of those impulses settling down a little bit?

39:19🔗 Caller Yeah, and like I said, that's the reason why I'm scared to ask her, because of the offense.

39:25🔗 Adam Well, what do you think is going to happen?

39:27🔗 Caller Well, I don't know. I think it would be kind of a little early, because I just got out on the 17th.

39:32🔗 Drew Does she know that?

39:34🔗 Caller Yeah, she does.

39:35🔗 Drew But she's still in there. She's coming after you, right?

39:40🔗 Adam Well, it makes you ask a few questions about her, doesn't it?

39:44🔗 Caller Yeah, I know.

39:46🔗 Adam But Matt, are you scared that she's going to awaken the criminal in you?

39:51🔗 Caller No, I'm just afraid that since she's 17, too, I'm just afraid that she has some kind of plan going upstairs to screw me over or something. Because like I said, it's the only girl in my entire life that's really dug me this much.

40:06🔗 Drew So you think she's up to something?

40:07🔗 Caller Yeah.

40:08🔗 Adam What do you mean?

40:09🔗 Henry Rollins Wait till she's 18.

40:12🔗 Drew Oh, I didn't get that part.

40:13🔗 Adam You mean like she's going to entrap you, like you're going to have sex with another minor?

40:18🔗 Caller Yeah.

40:18🔗 Adam But you're a minor. You're 17.

40:20🔗 Drew No, it doesn't matter.

40:21🔗 Adam It doesn't?

40:22🔗 Drew No.

40:23🔗 Adam Well, hold on a second, though. Isn't it worse to be an adult of age and have sex with a minor than it is to have two minors?

40:31🔗 Drew Depends on the state. Depends on the state. In California, you have a three-year window that you can do it. In other words, you can be 19 to be with a 17-year-old.

40:41🔗 Adam Right. But two 17-year-olds is, I mean, technically, yes, I guess. But I mean, does that get prosecuted that much? Or maybe if you got a history like Matt does.

40:50🔗 Drew I've heard about it many times on this show.

40:51🔗 Caller This is my first offense.

40:53🔗 Drew I have heard it many times on this show. I've heard it many, many, but a number of times.

40:56🔗 Adam Hey, Matt. Yeah? Look, there's not too many chicks out there who like you. There's one that does.

41:04🔗 Drew Take her out.

41:04🔗 Adam I say go for it.

41:05🔗 Drew Yeah.

41:06🔗 Adam All right. You may not see the likes of her for a while.

41:09🔗 Caller Oh, yeah, I know.

41:10🔗 Adam All right? And don't talk too much about the molestation charges. Stick to current events, okay, like this stem cell research.

41:20🔗 Drew Macedonian crisis.

41:21🔗 Right.

41:22🔗 Drew All right.

41:22🔗 Adam The Middle East.

41:23🔗 All right.

41:24🔗 Adam All right, man. Take care of yourself.

41:26🔗 Caller I was going to think of trying to impress her with a couple of impressions I can do. I can do Krusty the Clown and Chewbacca from Star Wars.

41:35🔗 Adam All right. Let's hear them both.

41:36🔗 Caller All right. Okay. Here's Krusty the Clown, all right?

41:39🔗 Adam All right.

41:45🔗 Drew I like that.

41:46🔗 Adam All right. That's good for at least a hand job.

41:49🔗 Caller And then Chewbacca, you know how they had to use a whole bunch of technical crap to get his voice.

41:55🔗 Adam Not you, right?

41:56🔗 Right. I can just sit there and...

41:59🔗 Drew Wow.

42:00🔗 Adam Nice. Now, can you do any dialogue? I mean, as Krusty?

42:07🔗 Caller I can do something. I listen to the radio all the time and I hear him always going, hey, hey!

42:13🔗 Adam Yeah.

42:14🔗 That's him. Come on, you snide!

42:16🔗 Caller Do something!

42:18🔗 Adam Okay, Matt. You're in like client.

42:20🔗 Drew There's a career for you here.

42:21🔗 Adam Yeah. When she hears about Krusty and Chewbacca, that's it. All right. It's going to be love. You ask her out, all right?

42:28🔗 Caller All right. All right.

42:29🔗 Adam And keep with your therapy and do whatever older people tell you to do for now.

42:33🔗 All right.

42:33🔗 Adam All right.

42:34🔗 Great.

42:35🔗 Drew What interesting characters to choose to imitate. But good, you know? Good choices in them.

42:40🔗 Yeah.

42:40🔗 Adam He's got range, this one. All right. Let's talk to Michelle. She has a question for Henry. She's 26. Michelle?

42:48🔗 Caller Hi. Henry, I was curious about if you really saw yourself as the mechanic, as you portrayed yourself in the ice cream.

42:57🔗 Henry Rollins Well, I wasn't really portraying myself. It was an idea of a person very emotionally devoid who just has somehow superseded his emotions by just being very clinical and just moving from that standpoint. It's an aspect of human nature. But I don't really see it as myself, per se.

43:19🔗 Drew You didn't put yourself in that space when you were writing that character?

43:22🔗 Henry Rollins Oh, yeah, I did. But it's not like me every day. But it wasn't like, you know, your actual life experience. There are moments, some of it, but there's moments when all of us act mechanically and somewhat coldly. And so I was interested in prolonging that and seeing where it would take me.

43:37🔗 Drew How far you'd go.

43:38🔗 Henry Rollins I also find it a very American thing in the way business is handled. You know, business not personal, the way a lot of things are handled. That book, Ice Cream of What You Speak, it took me nine years to write it.

43:51🔗 Drew What's it about?

43:52🔗 Henry Rollins America, basically. It's just my take on America, which is an ice cream. It's hectic.

43:59🔗 Adam What's different about business in other parts of the world?

44:03🔗 Henry Rollins I just think America suffers from a real lack of, well, there's been a cultural breakdown on how we treat each other. You go to different countries of Europe, the family structure is stronger. And here we're just really rocking that capitalist cutthroat mentality in the urban setting. And I just wanted to capture that kind of that meanness in a book. And so I was basically just exploring that kind of thing. Because actually I'm not very much like that at all.

44:33🔗 Drew What's the story?

44:35🔗 Henry Rollins Well, it's just a series of just random thoughts and essays. And it's pretty intense. It's pretty anti-human. But it's nothing you've never, that you haven't experienced out there before. It's just an aspect of human nature.

44:49🔗 Adam Hey, Michelle.

44:50🔗 Caller Yes.

44:51🔗 Adam Does that answer your question?

44:52🔗 Caller Yes.

44:53🔗 Adam All right.

44:53🔗 Caller Thank you very much.

44:54🔗 Adam Thanks for calling. All right. Let's talk to... We got to take a break. But hold on. Adam, you're 13?

45:02🔗 Caller Yeah. I want to know about masturbating with GAC and if it's safe.

45:07🔗 Drew You just...

45:08🔗 Adam GAC's a buddy of yours from school?

45:11🔗 Caller No. My friend just wanted to know and I'm curious.

45:13🔗 Drew Yeah, this isn't you. He's not masturbating. Yeah.

45:15🔗 Adam No, nobody's doing this. Yeah, you don't masturbate yet. You don't have that voice.

45:20🔗 Caller Yeah, I do.

45:21🔗 Adam No, you're just making this up.

45:22🔗 Caller Okay, whatever. I have another question, too.

45:25🔗 Drew Okay.

45:26🔗 Adam Hold on a second there, Adam. I'll tell you what we're going to do. We're going to take a little break.

45:31🔗 Caller Okay.

45:32🔗 Adam And then we're going to come back and we're not going to talk to you, all right?

45:35🔗 Caller You're not?

45:35🔗 Adam No.

45:36🔗 Caller Okay.

45:37🔗 Adam All right. Well, now hold on. Now I feel bad. Oh. Do you have a real question for us?

45:41🔗 Caller Yeah.

45:42🔗 Adam You sure? What is it?

45:44🔗 Caller It's about my knees and their floating kneecaps.

45:48🔗 Adam Yeah.

45:48🔗 Drew Do you have Osgood Schlatter's?

45:50🔗 Caller No. They're floating kneecaps and I want to know if that's bad.

45:53🔗 Adam Okay.

45:53🔗 Caller I can like move them up and down.

45:55🔗 Drew No. It's all right. Don't do that. All right. Don't do that.

45:58🔗 Adam Is that called the, what's it called? Hoskins Schlatter?

46:01🔗 Drew It's Osgood Schlatter. It's different than this one.

46:03🔗 Adam Okay. Take care of yourself there, young Adam, he who claims to masturbate with gags. Henry Rollins is our guest. He's out in New York. We're going to take ourselves a little break. We'll come back. We'll hear something from the New Rollins Band CD and talk to you after this.

46:18🔗 Caller Loveline, we'll be right back. Call on the 1-800-LOVE-191.

46:28🔗 Adam Hey, Loveline, everybody. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Henry Rollins is our guest tonight. That was a little system of a down, who was in here last night, by the way. Henry Rollins is coming to us from New York tonight, and Nice is the name of the new CD. We'll hear something else off of that. That is out tomorrow, August 21st. You can want some information about tour dates or CDs or books or any one of Henry's numerous projects. You can check it out on www.henryrollins.com.

47:07🔗 Caller Just be nice.

47:09🔗 Adam All right. Let's talk to Tony over here on line 3, he's 18. Tony? Yeah. What's up?

47:16🔗 Caller Hi. I got a question about an erection problem that I have. All right. Like, I have been recently sexually active more than I have been before in my life, and all my partners are other men, and I cannot seem to get aroused as much as I usually do when I'm masturbating. I used to think that it was the condom cutting off circulation or something whenever I would try to have anal sex but then it would happen during other things. So, I don't know if it's something wrong with me or if I just need to get more blood pumping through it or something.

47:54🔗 Drew Well, do you want medication?

47:56🔗 Caller No.

47:56🔗 Drew Do you have any medical problems?

47:58🔗 Caller I have asthma.

47:59🔗 Drew Do you want any medical medicine?

48:00🔗 Henry Rollins Do you have the heterosexual inside looking to tear himself out and reveal itself?

48:04🔗 Adam Maybe it's a subtle form of heterosexual protest. I don't know.

48:10🔗 Caller I have no idea.

48:11🔗 Adam Are you bi or are you gay?

48:14🔗 Caller I'm gay as far as I know so far in my life.

48:16🔗 Drew Do you have any sexual trauma history?

48:19🔗 Caller I was sexually molested on several accounts in my childhood.

48:21🔗 Drew All right. Don't you think that could have some effect on how you experience yourself and your sexuality?

48:26🔗 Caller It could be, but I mean I haven't had any bitterness towards anybody in my life so far.

48:32🔗 Drew Well, these things aren't usually right at the surface. God knows what it is that's troubling you, but it's something about sex or that sort of re-triggers maybe feelings of anxiety, trauma, who knows what, helplessness.

48:42🔗 Adam What happened to you?

48:44🔗 Caller Well, I was, when I was living in, I don't remember where it was, but it was whenever I was about five or six, there was one of these neighborhood kids that would always, he had a reputation of getting in trouble a lot, and he would kind of like, he'd take me over to places and just kind of touch me all over, and it made me feel uncomfortable, but I didn't protest too much when it was going on, because I mean, I've known for, since I was really young, that I've been attracted to guys.

49:14🔗 Drew How old were you when this happened?

49:15🔗 Caller About six or seven, and then in other times, it was pretty much the same situation, different area.

49:20🔗 Drew Same kid?

49:21🔗 Caller No.

49:22🔗 Drew Different kids?

49:23🔗 Adam Yeah. All right. But still, something that could affect the penis, and you know, you're a tender 18 years of age.

49:31🔗 Drew Yeah, there are plenty of guys that know they're heterosexual that are abused by a woman and it screws them up good.

49:36🔗 Adam Really? Well, not as bad.

49:38🔗 Drew It screws them up.

49:39🔗 Adam All right. But better to have a woman get you.

49:42🔗 Drew Not, not, Tony, yeah.

49:44🔗 Adam Tony? Yeah. How about a little therapy perhaps?

49:48🔗 Caller I've, for this in particular?

49:50🔗 Adam Just in general.

49:52🔗 Caller I've gone to counselors before. I mean, I've been through a divorce as a child, and I've gone through three or four counselors in my whole life.

50:00🔗 Drew All right.

50:00🔗 Adam How about some amyl nitrate then?

50:03🔗 Drew Did you talk to them about this issue?

50:05🔗 Caller No. I mean, this has just been recently.

50:06🔗 Drew No, but the sexual abuse.

50:08🔗 Caller Oh, that. Actually, I don't really like to talk to it about people. All right.

50:13🔗 Drew Well, that's what you need to talk about. And by the way, to me, going to a series of therapists by the time you're 18 is going to no therapist. If you said, I've been to one for four years, I'd say, all right. But going to a series of them is not anything.

50:27🔗 Caller I mean, this is like, throughout my childhood, I've been sent to therapy for about three years, and then it just kind of quit. I mean, it's been, we've moved around a lot because of military family.

50:38🔗 Adam All right.

50:38🔗 Caller So I've had a change therapist. Some of them, my parents didn't like them. So we just...

50:44🔗 Adam What's your dad? What's his rank?

50:46🔗 Caller It's my mom, who's actually in the Navy. My dad, I have no idea where he is right now.

50:51🔗 Drew No idea where he is right now?

50:52🔗 Caller Nope.

50:54🔗 Adam Oh, and is your mom lesbian?

50:56🔗 Caller No.

50:56🔗 Adam All right. How's she with the gay party?

50:58🔗 Um, okay.

51:01🔗 Caller Surprisingly.

51:02🔗 Adam She's all right. Okay. Hey, Tony.

51:06🔗 Yeah.

51:06🔗 Adam Yeah, I'd say it's probably not a physical problem. I mean, your penis functions fine when you're on your own, right?

51:12🔗 Yeah.

51:13🔗 Adam You just got some weird things going through your mind when you're sodomizing guys.

51:18🔗 Caller Okay. All right.

51:19🔗 Drew So, there's some PTSDs and post-traumatic stress.

51:21🔗 Caller Right.

51:22🔗 Adam So, maybe hook up with a therapist, talk about openly your prom, see if you can hash it out, and then feel free to have a lot of sex.

51:31🔗 Caller Okay.

51:32🔗 Adam You wear that condom, right?

51:33🔗 Caller Of course.

51:34🔗 Adam Maybe if you had a boyfriend, like a steady thing, it might work out.

51:37🔗 Caller Well, I have before, and even then it doesn't really work, but I don't know. I've been trying to avoid relationships lately because I just think, in case you haven't known, in the gay culture there's just a little bit of drama with relationships. I've been trying to get away from it.

51:53🔗 Adam There is.

51:53🔗 Drew What's the drama?

51:54🔗 Adam I can imagine there's drama in just about every department in the gay lifestyle. Yeah?

51:58🔗 Caller Yeah.

51:59🔗 Drew What's the drama with the relationships?

52:03🔗 Caller People sleep with somebody and gossip. Gay men tend to gossip a lot. I'm not really feminine and I try to be like as butch as possible. I don't have a whole lot of gay friends. I don't know. Maybe I'm just a closeted heterosexual or something.

52:19🔗 Adam Well, this is probably not going to comfort you much, but it's something my theory of form from doing this show for many years, which is you wonder if you were put on this planet to be gay or if the guy who molested you when you were young didn't send you in that direction a little bit. And so maybe you're not sort of, I don't know, biologically gay for lack of a better term. You ever feel that way? Do you feel torn?

52:47🔗 Caller No. I mean, there's never been attraction towards women for me at all since I can remember.

52:53🔗 Adam Okay. All right. Well, a little therapy and work on the molestation thing, and then you get yourself a nice boyfriend and all works out.

53:00🔗 Drew Yeah, I think so.

53:00🔗 Okay.

53:01🔗 Adam All right, Tony. And listen, listen, don't, don't, don't, you're 18, give yourself a break.

53:07🔗 Caller Okay.

53:07🔗 Adam You know what I mean? Don't be in too big a hurry to do anything.

53:10🔗 Caller Okay.

53:11🔗 Adam You're fine.

53:12🔗 Caller All right?

53:13🔗 Caller Okay.

53:13🔗 Caller Thank you guys very much.

53:14🔗 Caller All right.

53:14🔗 Adam Hey, good times, right? Yeah. All right. Let's talk to Patrick who's 16. Patrick?

53:19🔗 Caller Hi.

53:20🔗 Adam Hey.

53:21🔗 Caller Um, I just want to say, first off, well, the show and Adam, you're a really smart guy and Dr. Drew, you're like half of the part why I want to be a doctor.

53:32🔗 Drew Half of the part?

53:33🔗 Caller Yeah.

53:34🔗 Adam What's the other part?

53:35🔗 Caller Um, I don't know. I just really love it.

53:37🔗 Drew A good few. What's going on?

53:40🔗 Caller Uh, well, um, I'm a recovering addict and I've been sober for about two years now.

53:45🔗 Drew Wow. You got sober when you're 14?

53:47🔗 Caller Yeah.

53:47🔗 Caller Woo.

53:49🔗 Caller And, uh, um, well, I've, I kind of don't know if I should start dating. Um, but I, I want to, but I'm, I'm afraid it'll lead into a relapse because people that I've sponsored and, and stuff like that, I always see that.

54:04🔗 Drew They, uh, they always go out on a relationship, don't they?

54:07🔗 Caller Yeah. Like right off the bat, they get sober and then all of a sudden they, they jump the gun.

54:11🔗 Drew Yeah. It happens all the time. I see it all the time. I, I, as a sort of a simplistic way of thinking about that, I believe, is that that person that you were, the addict, started to get to reform, they're sort of fit into the mix with a relationship. You haven't changed enough to be able to select a partner that's grown also. You tend to sort of regress when you pick partners and try to gratify some of that old stuff.

54:35🔗 Caller Right.

54:35🔗 Drew Do you have a therapist also?

54:37🔗 Caller Yeah.

54:37🔗 Drew Talk, work with a therapist on how to pick someone and what you're feeling and work it through that way. Then go ahead and pick someone. I think two years is a good period of time. You're working in therapy. It's time to start experimenting a little bit.

54:47🔗 Adam Well, but Patrick, if you go into a relationship thinking, this one's going to send me back to the drugs, then it probably will. If you go in there with a preconceived notion, don't you think it might be a self-fulfilling prophecy?

55:02🔗 Drew No, because it just happens to happen all the time. I think what you need to do is really learn how to read yourself. Be very cautious about attractions and realize some of the attractions may come from traumas.

55:14🔗 Adam But don't you think, Patrick, that this is a little bit of an excuse to avoid relationships?

55:20🔗 Caller Um, a little bit. I'm just like, I just don't want to go back to the way I was, and it's just scary.

55:31🔗 Drew Extremely healthy.

55:32🔗 Adam Sit it out a little longer.

55:34🔗 Drew Sit it out, don't be in a hurry, but work with your therapist and see what kind of people you'll be attracting, learn to read your feelings about them and how to make choices on who you should and shouldn't be with, and go real, real slow, okay?

55:45🔗 Caller Okay.

55:46🔗 Adam Hey, Henry, you're not a sober guy, are you?

55:50🔗 Henry Rollins What do you mean?

55:51🔗 Adam I mean, you never had a big problem with drugs or booze or anything like that?

55:55🔗 Henry Rollins I got drunk about three times in my life. Between the ages of 17 and 17, I didn't like it.

56:02🔗 Adam And same with drugs? So for you, it was just never something you were into?

56:07🔗 Henry Rollins I thought it was a drag, it was really depressing, really boring, and I didn't like being out of control in that kind of way.

56:12🔗 Adam Right. So you don't do it because you ain't into it, not because someone made you stop?

56:19🔗 Henry Rollins No, I never had a career in any kind of chemical or substance abuse. I was too busy trying to, you know.

56:26🔗 Adam Hey, you ever have a drink?

56:29🔗 Henry Rollins No.

56:30🔗 Adam I mean, like you get off stage, you bust your ass, you get back to your hotel room, you don't want to put down a few beers?

56:35🔗 Henry Rollins Oh, no, no, I got no taste for that stuff at all.

56:38🔗 Adam Wow.

56:39🔗 Henry Rollins I don't touch alcohol.

56:40🔗 Drew I know you find that shocking.

56:41🔗 Henry Rollins Couldn't be bothered.

56:42🔗 Adam You got any booze or pot you're not using that I could have?

56:45🔗 Henry Rollins No, but I got some phone numbers of some women who might be interested in you.

56:50🔗 Drew All right.

56:50🔗 Adam Good times. Talk off the air. Now, does your family have any substance abuse, any alcoholism?

56:57🔗 Henry Rollins Not that I know of, no.

56:58🔗 Adam I just don't have it. God bless you.

57:00🔗 Henry Rollins My parents are very hardworking people. They are all about whatever business they are into and stuff, and there is never like alcohol around the house.

57:08🔗 Drew They just fought sober.

57:10🔗 Henry Rollins Someone had the occasional glass of white wine with her green salad, and that's about it.

57:17🔗 Adam I got the same mom, although she gets a, she has one half a glass of white wine, and she's out of control.

57:23🔗 Drew That she lights up her bon.

57:26🔗 Adam Yeah, she smoked a little weed back in the day. Everyone was doing it though.

57:30🔗 Caller Come on.

57:31🔗 Adam How dare you. John?

57:33🔗 Caller Yeah?

57:33🔗 Adam Hey, you know, something funny. I was just thinking about my family. You know, my sister and her family moved into my second house. That's bad news. I got a second house so I could have a wood shop and a place to play basketball and play in the pool. And but if you're Corolla, how long is it going to take before another Corolla jumps in there and squats the place? Well, for me, I spent about nine months refurbishing the place, building the place, bust my ass in the place. Then it was vacant for about four months and now my sister's in there. But something funny happened. The air conditioning was on the Fritz. And Henry, I don't know when the last time you were in LA was, but it is damn hot out here.

58:16🔗 Henry Rollins So I heard.

58:17🔗 Adam Yeah, it is a miserable hot. And the air is on the Fritz. You know how much power the air sucks when you put that central air on and you keep it on about 11 hours a day? And I was just thinking to myself, you know, I know I'm paying this electricity bill, so I'm in no hurry to fix this thing. So my sister and her husband are like, boy, it's really hot in here. Who's going to fix this air? And I'm like, don't worry, I'm going to get around to it. I called my guy, we worked it out, but it may take a little while. Meanwhile, I think I'm saving myself a few bucks. Well, she calls my stepdad, who's an electronics engineer, and he calls me yesterday and he goes, well, I went over there, I took a look at it, I couldn't fix the thermostat, but I put a little jumper wire on it. Now the problem is that thing stays on constantly now because I had to jump the circuit, but it works, don't worry. I saved myself, holy Christ. Now the thing is on 24-7. Now I'm hustling out there to fix it. It's just funny when you put together those little plans in your head, I'm going to save myself 150 bucks, let them fry over there for a week. Now it's on constantly.

59:20🔗 Henry Rollins I'm so glad I don't have a family to deal with.

59:22🔗 Adam Henry, Henry, you are so blessed not to have a family. They'd be in your place right now while you were in New York.

59:29🔗 Henry Rollins Yeah, they'd be in a compound in the back.

59:34🔗 Adam Henry, you're not big fans of your family.

59:37🔗 Henry Rollins I'm just not a big fan of just having to call people and be a certain place for Thanksgiving and all that stuff. I just think it's utterly miserable and time consuming and no one really is all that into it. But they put on that facade that they are because of some weird moral and civil civic obligation that was beaten into their frontal lobes at an early age. So I just like to come and go when I please. I live in my underwear, goof around on eBay and just do whatever I want all the time when I'm home and I enjoy my...

1:00:06🔗 Adam Henry should write greeting cards.

1:00:07🔗 Henry Rollins Wait till you have kids. Oh, never going to happen.

1:00:10🔗 Adam But Henry, you're like me in that like you're selfish in a certain sense that you're only selfish when you're taking up somebody else's time.

1:00:18🔗 Henry Rollins If you're selfish on your own time, more power to you.

1:00:20🔗 Adam Right.

1:00:21🔗 Henry Rollins If you know what you like, then go for it.

1:00:23🔗 Adam Right, but you have your life, which is about being out in front of people on stage doing things, and then when you're alone, you like to be alone, right?

1:00:34🔗 Henry Rollins Yeah.

1:00:35🔗 Adam And you like that sort of, you like that putzing around in your underpants, screwing around on the internet.

1:00:41🔗 Henry Rollins Oh yeah, whatever interests you. Yeah, sure.

1:00:43🔗 Adam And that feeling of like just being able to get up and leave whenever you want to get up and leave and come home, whenever you want to come home.

1:00:51🔗 Henry Rollins Yeah, there's that thing when you wake up with the girl on Sunday morning in LA and she goes, let's go to the farmer's market. It makes me go, oh my god, get out of my house. And I got to take her back to the strip mall from which I abducted her from.

1:01:05🔗 Adam That's right.

1:01:06🔗 Henry Rollins Get the duct tape off her ankles and send her on her way.

1:01:10🔗 Adam I don't know where, you know what, you see, I share some of the same feelings Henry has. And I think it's because we're both brought up in sort of hands-off, crappy, narcissistic families that didn't really pay that much attention to us. And now we don't feel like paying that much attention to anybody else.

1:01:27🔗 Right, right, right.

1:01:28🔗 Adam Is that what it is?

1:01:28🔗 Yeah, of course.

1:01:29🔗 Adam You guys have that in it?

1:01:30🔗 Henry Rollins You know, like you, I work really hard. I'm on the road nine, 10 months a year in like 20 countries. I'm jamming, I'm sleeping like three to five hours a day. When I come home, I don't want to see anybody. I'm peopled out. I shake like 50 hands a day. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying when I go home, I just want to hear nothing but the records and I want to hear and the books I want to read and the backyard with the birds, you know, that's it.

1:01:55🔗 Adam Yeah, and I wonder if, I sometimes wonder about this in myself, but I'll wonder about it for Henry, too. I wonder if, you know, I have this theory that being on stage and shaking 50 hands a day is a sort of unnatural place to be for your mind.

1:02:11🔗 Drew Oh, sure. We have all different countries.

1:02:13🔗 Adam Even though it's exciting, it's still sort of wreaks havoc on your mind. And I think when you...

1:02:18🔗 Henry Rollins It definitely gives you a different sense of what is yours, because when you're recognizable, as I'm sure you've run into this, you kind of walk around in a glass house where people just walk right up to you, no matter what you're doing, where, and they start talking to you, even knocking on the door of a men's room stall, which has happened to me many times, and something to sign gets shoved underneath. That's kind of invasive, you know?

1:02:44🔗 Adam Yeah. Now, I'll say that the two things I notice are, one, if you're talking on a cell phone, that means nothing to someone who wants to come up and say hi, because technically it's a phone, but not really because you're not at home. They'll just come up and start talking in your free ear, and the next thing that drives me a little nutty, and in general I don't have a problem with anybody and the public and all that stuff, but people come up and they'll go, hey Adam, what's happening? And I'll think, oh, I gotta stop because I know this dude from high school or he works over at K-Rock or I'm spacing him out, maybe he's a guest on the show, and you stop, you go up to him, you do that fakey thing, hey dude, what's up? Hey Adam, love the man show, and you start thinking, wait a minute, I don't know this guy, I'm standing here talking to him, the car door's open, and I'm just having a chat with a guy I thought I had to be nice to. Alright, Henry?

1:03:35🔗 Henry Rollins Yeah?

1:03:36🔗 Adam We might think about bunking up when you come back in town, you know? Living together, hanging out?

1:03:41🔗 Drew This could be how you get your sister out of your party house. Why put Henry in there?

1:03:45🔗 Henry Rollins Yeah, hey, have me move in, and just say, here's your new roommate.

1:03:49🔗 Adam Henry?

1:03:50🔗 Henry Rollins This is Henry.

1:03:51🔗 Adam Right, see, Lauren, he'll be in his underpants the entire time, and he'll need the computer for eBay. John?

1:03:59🔗 Caller Hi.

1:03:59🔗 Adam You're 15, what's up?

1:04:01🔗 Caller Not much, I'm a long time listener and a first time caller. I just want to say one first off, Adam, you are the bomb, you are the best of them all. And Drew, you're pretty awesome yourself.

1:04:12🔗 Adam Thanks, John, what's your question?

1:04:14🔗 Henry Rollins Are you saying that he's coming in the second to Adam?

1:04:18🔗 Drew I'm coming close to measuring up to the world's greatest.

1:04:22🔗 Adam There you go, Drew, divine intervention.

1:04:25🔗 Caller I'm not saying that, I mean, you guys are like on the same level, I'm just saying that I think Drew is a little bit more funny.

1:04:30🔗 Drew Adam's.

1:04:32🔗 Caller Adam's, sorry.

1:04:32🔗 Adam Right, I was just close to killing myself by the way. Just took the revolver out of my mouth and stuck it back in my waistband. All right, so what's your question, John?

1:04:41🔗 Caller Well, you see, I am, okay, my ex-girlfriend, she's kind of loony. She thinks she's a made up character from an anime, a Japanese cartoon, and she's like obsessed with it. I mean, when I went out with her, she tried to convince me that I was one of the characters, and right now she's trying to convince one of my good friends that he is, that way he'll go out with her. And it's kind of screwy. I mean, I'm trying to get her to stop. I mean, he can't get her to stop because he has a problem with being blunt and just up forward with her, so.

1:05:16🔗 Adam You mean he can't speak his mind?

1:05:18🔗 Caller He can't speak his mind. No, he's really just more quiet, you know? He'll just nod his head and go with it.

1:05:24🔗 Adam Okay. How long has this been your girlfriend?

1:05:27🔗 Caller She's my ex-girlfriend now, thankfully. All right. Yeah, it should be a year or two weeks ago.

1:05:34🔗 Adam Well, why are you so connected with her?

1:05:36🔗 Caller Well, because she just keeps on taking the stuff to the next level. I mean, she keeps on introducing new people.

1:05:42🔗 Adam No, no, no. She wants to do whatever she wants. Why are you so involved? It's been a year. You're 15. That's a long time at 15.

1:05:48🔗 Caller Well, I'm very active in church, and she is as well. So I see her a lot through church activities and church camp. I mean, we don't go out and hang out or anything like that. The only time I see her is through a church activity.

1:06:03🔗 Drew Does any adult know that she's got this weird preoccupation?

1:06:07🔗 Caller No, no, not that I know of. I mean, she's just...

1:06:09🔗 Henry Rollins So what is your basic worry that she's going to pull your friend into this cartoon realm or something?

1:06:15🔗 Caller Well, yeah, she's already done it with this one, her best friend, and it's just kind of screwed up.

1:06:22🔗 Drew No, what is your fear? Why are you involved?

1:06:24🔗 Caller Why am I involved? Well, because I want to look out for my friend.

1:06:28🔗 Drew What is your afraid is going to happen to him?

1:06:30🔗 Caller I'm afraid that she'll just go nuts on him one of these days. I mean, she's been obsessed with him for the last three years.

1:06:38🔗 Drew Is he currently her...

1:06:39🔗 Adam Look, he's scared that they're going to have sex.

1:06:41🔗 Drew Is he currently her boyfriend?

1:06:43🔗 Caller Huh?

1:06:44🔗 Drew Is he currently her boyfriend?

1:06:47🔗 Caller Luckily, no. Luckily, no.

1:06:49🔗 Drew Are you kind of into her still?

1:06:51🔗 Caller Oh, no. Please, no. I got this new chick I'm into, but...

1:06:56🔗 Adam Well, wait a second. Hold on, John. You got a new chick you're into. She's not animated, right?

1:07:01🔗 Caller Right.

1:07:02🔗 Adam She's not just a rabbit or anything.

1:07:03🔗 Henry Rollins Pay more attention to her, man. Leave Cartoon Woman alone. Just let her be.

1:07:08🔗 Caller I'm just trying to look out for my friend.

1:07:10🔗 Henry Rollins I mean, you know, just tell your friend, hey, buddy, you're a real person and not a cartoon and don't let anyone treat you like a different person.

1:07:16🔗 Drew Yeah, be supportive of your friend. Let him know what experiences you've had with her and make his own choices. That's up to him.

1:07:21🔗 Adam I had to do this with one of my buddies. I do well.

1:07:24🔗 Henry Rollins Wait, wait. This church group, are you Christians?

1:07:28🔗 Caller Yes, I am very Christian, non-dominational.

1:07:31🔗 Henry Rollins Well then just forgive her.

1:07:33🔗 Caller I have forgiven her. I'm just...

1:07:35🔗 Henry Rollins What's the rub, Christian?

1:07:37🔗 Adam Turn the other cheek.

1:07:37🔗 Henry Rollins It's all good now.

1:07:38🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:07:40🔗 Adam Adam, hey John, please stop obsessing over this screwball. Would you spend a year? You got a new chick. Focus on her. I agree with that, Henry. And you know what you can do with your friend is something I had to do when I was about John's age was that he thought he was anime, so I'd whack him with a frying pan and show him that his head did not take the shape of the frying pan.

1:08:00🔗 Drew Right, and he woke up and he was Mary Ann.

1:08:02🔗 Adam Oh, shut up. No one knows what you're talking about. Also, did that thing where I tried to pull his eyelids and snap them like a shade? All right.

1:08:12🔗 Drew Did I do his tongue too?

1:08:13🔗 Adam I can't figure out what John's deal is. What is John's deal?

1:08:16🔗 Drew I have a feeling this girl may be really quite disturbed and it's just troubling for him to see that and he doesn't know what the hell to do about it. It will out with time and he should tell his friend to be careful, that's all.

1:08:25🔗 Adam All right, we're going to take ourselves a little break. Henry Rollins is over there in New York. We'll hear something off the new Rollins Band CD when we come back.

1:08:36🔗 Caller Hello, this is Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191.

1:08:40🔗 Caller Loveline will be right back.

1:08:42🔗 Adam Hey, Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Long Beach Dub All Stars coming in here a little bit later this week. Terry Manthe from Survivor 2 will be in here, I think she's in Playboy right now and Henry Rollins. I'm sure he's been asked to pose in Playgirl before. Henry, is that true?

1:09:06🔗 Henry Rollins Yeah, a few years ago.

1:09:08🔗 Adam Interesting. That's kind of nice, right?

1:09:11🔗 Henry Rollins Whatever, I passed, of course.

1:09:12🔗 Adam I'm sure you did, but it is kind of nice. I mean, Drew, wait a minute, has anyone ever asked you?

1:09:18🔗 Drew No.

1:09:18🔗 Caller No.

1:09:19🔗 Adam Be nice, though, right?

1:09:21🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:09:22🔗 Adam Maybe we'll do a little dual spread with the microphone sort of.

1:09:26🔗 Drew Where it should be.

1:09:32🔗 Adam Henry Rollins over there in New York and we're going to hear something off the nice CD which is out tomorrow or today, depending on when you're hearing this show. That is August 21st. You can also find Henry on www.henryrollins.com. That will give you information about upcoming tour dates, books and all that stuff. So we'll hear that in a minute. Meanwhile, we'll talk to Georgia's 30 Georgia. What's up?

1:09:58🔗 Caller Oh, hey Adam. I just want to say I love you, love The Man Show. Great. Dr. Drew, it's wonderful that your message of education is out there because it's sorely needed. I actually had a 18-year-old co-worker that did not know that once you have a baby, your period will come back.

1:10:14🔗 Caller Nice. It will go away forever. Nice.

1:10:16🔗 Drew So she's busy trying to get pregnant.

1:10:18🔗 Caller So I hope she wasn't.

1:10:19🔗 Drew What's going on?

1:10:20🔗 Caller But I have a question. I work at a grocery store and there are a lot of co-workers that smoke. And every once in a while, I'll have dreams about smoking. Where I find myself in dreams smoking frequently, or sometimes it's a dream where I'm actually dreaming of smoking myself.

1:10:37🔗 Drew You were a smoker? Huh?

1:10:38🔗 Caller No.

1:10:39🔗 Drew You were never a smoker? That's interesting.

1:10:41🔗 Caller Yeah. And I'm wondering if that's nicotine or just I'm having... This is just working its way into my dreams because I see it.

1:10:47🔗 Drew Yeah. It's just around you. There are using dreams that people have from stimulants, which nicotine is a stimulant, that are really common when people are in the early stages of abstinence from nicotine, cocaine, speed. Alcohol does that too to some extent. But you have to have a using dream. If you're just sort of picking it up in your dreams, that's because you're around it all the time.

1:11:07🔗 Caller Oh, okay.

1:11:08🔗 Caller I've had a lot of dental work in my life and I have dreams about my teeth falling out and stuff too. Yeah.

1:11:13🔗 Drew The teeth falling out thing is actually not about dental work. It's anxiety.

1:11:17🔗 Adam That's oral sex.

1:11:18🔗 Drew No. It's often you're grinding your teeth at night. It's anxiety. That's an anxiety symptom. That's interesting. I used to have... I imagine me, I had that all the time. I'd be spitting my teeth out one after another all the time. Really?

1:11:28🔗 Adam Yeah. I have dreams where I'm trying to shoot somebody but the bullets come out so slow, I have to run out next to them and push them at the person I'm trying to shoot.

1:11:38🔗 Drew Very interesting.

1:11:39🔗 Adam Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Hey, Georgia.

1:11:42🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:11:43🔗 Adam I want to try putting on one of those nicotine patches before you go to bed.

1:11:47🔗 Caller Oh, no thank you.

1:11:48🔗 Adam All right, you're fine there, man. How's it going over there at the market?

1:11:51🔗 Caller Oh, uh... it's an annoying crappy job but I've got to pay for graduate school somehow.

1:11:55🔗 Adam But you get an union there, right?

1:11:57🔗 Caller Yeah, actually. Well, yeah. I work at a store, a grocery store, that is actually unionized.

1:12:01🔗 Drew Yeah, what are you studying? What are you studying?

1:12:03🔗 Caller Oh, I'm right now going to TWU. Graduated from University of Oregon with a Bachelor of Fine Arts. Right now I'm going for my Master's.

1:12:10🔗 Drew In what?

1:12:11🔗 Caller In painting and drawing.

1:12:12🔗 Drew Interesting.

1:12:13🔗 Adam All right. I'm sure you're a lot part of that lay-down, a nice junior college teaching gig.

1:12:17🔗 Caller Yeah, actually, it's what I plan to do.

1:12:19🔗 Adam There you go. All right, baby, take care of yourself.

1:12:21🔗 Caller Thank you.

1:12:22🔗 Adam Have good times. All right.

1:12:24🔗 Henry Rollins So what I saw...

1:12:26🔗 Adam You know what I find myself doing, which is probably a bad habit and maybe a little bit condescending, is telling people I have semi-crappy jobs, that their job sounds pretty good. You know what I mean? Yeah. When you find that annoying, if I was telling that to you, like you had some crappy job banging groceries, it's like, you're doing good for yourself. I think it's kind of sinning. I should stop doing it.

1:12:48🔗 Drew I thought you really meant it.

1:12:49🔗 Adam Well, I mean it. You know why? Because I think of myself as a carpenter in a weird way. So to me, getting paid 1675 and having full benefits and two weeks off a year for bagging canned goods sounds like a pretty good gig.

1:13:03🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:13:03🔗 Adam And like a credit union.

1:13:05🔗 Drew And actually, both you and I remember a phase in our life when that was like something we strived for.

1:13:11🔗 Adam I tried to get a gig over at like a bunch of markets.

1:13:16🔗 Drew So it is easy to get excited for somebody who has that job.

1:13:18🔗 Adam Well, I don't know about excited. But now I think it's a little obnoxious now. I'm going to stop. All right. It was funny. I don't know why. But a guy came up my stairs tonight to deliver a package at like 830 at night. And I always yell at people are coming up my stairs just because I figure I'll scare them. I don't know who they are. Yeah. I yelled I yelled that beat it to the census guy once. And I yelled that this poor guy was dropping off some papers, you know, like a package for me to sign. I just yelled like, hey, what do you want? And I said, who are you? So figure like might as well scare the guy, in case he's coming up to kill me or something. But anyway, it turned out the guy was real nice. He just wanted me to sign something. So I felt bad. So I gave him some beers. That sounds good, right?

1:14:04🔗 Drew Yeah. So he could drive off.

1:14:05🔗 Adam No, he sat and drank them out of my pork.

1:14:07🔗 Drew And then he drove off.

1:14:08🔗 Adam And then he drove off. Yeah. Good. Delivery man. That's a big deal. All right. Let's hear something from Henry Rollins over here. This is from the Rollins band. CD is named Nice and this is called Up For It.

1:14:23🔗 Caller It is bad.

1:14:24🔗 Caller It's got that drive on it.

1:14:25🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:18:53🔗 Caller Thank you, LA, you've been great!

1:18:55🔗 Caller Great!

1:18:58🔗 Adam That is the Rollins band in a cool song. A little bit of a departure, I might say, for Henry, and it really worked. Man, it sounded great.

1:19:09🔗 Henry Rollins We're trying to do something a little different, you know.

1:19:11🔗 Adam You certainly achieved that. You should have seen the studio there. Everyone was rocking, hands above their head. It's like some kind of revival going on. Yeah, nice. I enjoyed that. Who sang on it?

1:19:24🔗 Henry Rollins My manager knows these amazing women who sing on sessions. And he said, why don't you bring them in and we'll try this out. And I've never really brought in session people before, so I reluctantly said OK. And they came in and they knocked it out. It sounded good.

1:19:41🔗 Adam Yeah, it sounded like fun, too.

1:19:43🔗 Henry Rollins Yeah, yeah, they're really cool. All right. When you hear them talking before the song, that's how they are. They're just very up people.

1:19:49🔗 Caller Right.

1:19:50🔗 Adam Chinese ladies?

1:19:52🔗 Henry Rollins No, no. Four black chicks. Very fun to be around.

1:19:54🔗 Caller Really neat.

1:19:55🔗 Henry Rollins They wanted to go on tour with us immediately.

1:19:59🔗 Adam Well, I mean, if you did take them on tour, how often would you bring them out on stage? I mean, how many songs do you have where they could sing?

1:20:07🔗 Henry Rollins Oh, they're on two songs on the record. It would be a huge expense that I couldn't afford.

1:20:11🔗 Adam Right.

1:20:11🔗 Henry Rollins So it's out of the question. I love their enthusiasm.

1:20:15🔗 Adam But if you did like Up For It on Saturday Night Live or something like that, Letterman or something like that, you could bring them out for that, right?

1:20:22🔗 Henry Rollins Oh, yeah. I hope to do that on one of those shows this year and bring out the gals and the whole thing. They're totally into it.

1:20:29🔗 Adam Mark, you're 17. You're on Loveline.

1:20:32🔗 Caller Yeah. Henry, you are like the best comedian with your spoken word stuff I've ever heard of.

1:20:39🔗 Henry Rollins Oh, thanks, man.

1:20:40🔗 Caller And my brother is just about as big a fan as I am, if not more. Well, Adam and Drew, you're cool by default for having Henry on your show.

1:20:51🔗 Adam All right.

1:20:53🔗 Caller And I was wondering about tour dates in the Bakersfield, California area for spoken words.

1:21:01🔗 Henry Rollins Where are you in California?

1:21:03🔗 Caller Bakersfield.

1:21:05🔗 Henry Rollins Yeah, I think we'll be playing, well, we're playing the House of Blues in Los Angeles at the end of this month, and then we're going to Petaluma and San Francisco, so we're not really getting near Bakersfield, but you should drive in to LA for the show.

1:21:19🔗 Adam But that's not going to be spoken word. That's going to be Rollins' name, right?

1:21:21🔗 Caller No, no, no, no, no.

1:21:22🔗 Henry Rollins Yeah, this is banned until August of next year.

1:21:25🔗 Caller Until August?

1:21:26🔗 Henry Rollins Well, until August of 2002. It's a very long tour.

1:21:29🔗 Drew So no more spoken word for you for the moment?

1:21:32🔗 Henry Rollins I'll be doing a month of shows in November, just a bunch of university dates. I already did 71 talking shows this year, so it's time to rock out. Get some, get some, get some.

1:21:42🔗 Adam Hey, Mark.

1:21:43🔗 Henry Rollins Yeah.

1:21:43🔗 Adam You're a big fan of Henry. Why don't you just come out and see the band? He'll talk in between songs. He'll go, like, this next one is called Up for It, and then he'll go into the song. You get the talking and the playing.

1:21:55🔗 Caller Sounds cool. I had another question for him.

1:21:58🔗 Adam All right.

1:21:58🔗 Caller Possibility of getting an autographed CD. What are the chances of that?

1:22:04🔗 Henry Rollins You come to the show, you hang out by the bus after the show, I sign anything thrust in front of me on my way to the bus, so that's the best way to do it. If you send something in, I'm rarely at the office. You have to wait probably up to about ten months.

1:22:18🔗 Caller Okay.

1:22:19🔗 Adam Hey, Mark. Yeah, come out to the House of Blues show in LA. You and your brother can trek out here from Bakersfield.

1:22:25🔗 Caller What day is that?

1:22:26🔗 Henry Rollins 28, 29, something like that.

1:22:29🔗 Caller August?

1:22:30🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:22:31🔗 Adam Hey, Mark?

1:22:32🔗 Caller Yep.

1:22:32🔗 Adam I don't know. Do they allow computers in Bakersfield now? Because I know they didn't for a while. You got them over there?

1:22:38🔗 Caller Well, that whole Black Sabbath album thing kind of wiped a lot of them out, but yeah. Allow computers.

1:22:43🔗 Adam Yeah, do the www.henryrollins.com and I bet you'll be able to find out some information.

1:22:49🔗 Caller Okay.

1:22:50🔗 Adam All right, buddy. Thanks. Good times. I don't know why I was being so nice to him, or the reason we're cool is because Henry's on the show. But maybe, maybe, and now, I got a quick question for Mark. Hey, Mark? He's gone. He left. See, I'm taking it that because Henry's on the show every nine months or a year, that makes us cool for the whole year.

1:23:10🔗 Drew Ah, good question.

1:23:11🔗 Adam It may not just be the nights that he's on.

1:23:14🔗 Drew No, we need to figure out what doses we need to never remain cool, see?

1:23:16🔗 Adam Right.

1:23:17🔗 Drew All right.

1:23:17🔗 Adam Henry Rollins is over there being cool in New York. We're out here in LA as per usual. We'll take a little break and we'll come right back.

1:23:27🔗 Caller Loveline will be right back. So get your problems ready.

1:23:31🔗 Adam Hey, everybody.

1:23:32🔗 Caller This is Loveline.

1:23:33🔗 Adam I'm Adam. That's Drew. Henry Rollins is our guest tonight over there. Coming up on 3 a.m. New York time and he's out in the studio over there. We appreciate him staying up, hanging out with us. Nice is the name of the new CD out tomorrow, out today, out the 21st of August, everybody. Let's power through a few more calls here. Gemma?

1:23:59🔗 Caller Yeah. What's up? Well, I had a nose job and a boob job about 10 years ago and I'm having problems with both of them. And at the time, it was right before they stopped allowing you to have silicone breast implants for the first time if you didn't have a mastectomy. And so the kind I have is called double lumen. The inner sac has silicone and the outer sac has saline. And they started feeling funny. And so I went back to my surgeon and we did a mammogram. They said a mammogram is normal, but you know when a blanket is like crumpled on the bed, it has those ruffles in it, that's how it feels. It's not hard, like it's scar tissue, but...

1:24:38🔗 Drew It's like it's leaking a little bit.

1:24:39🔗 Caller Yeah, like it's leaking. And so I'm just concerned that if the saline portion leaked, what's to keep the silicone from leaking? And they started to think...

1:24:49🔗 Adam What's going on with your nose?

1:24:52🔗 Caller I have... Now I have a deviated septum. I didn't have one before. So on the one side, I just can hardly ever breathe through it and I'm always having problems with my nose.

1:25:01🔗 Drew Awful.

1:25:01🔗 Caller And I wonder if either of these could be causing extreme lethargy, because I've also had that problem and not been able to get to the bottom of it.

1:25:08🔗 Drew Well, the...

1:25:09🔗 Adam See how God punishes vanity, by the way?

1:25:11🔗 Caller Ah, I know.

1:25:13🔗 Drew The deviated septum could be disturbing your sleep.

1:25:16🔗 Caller Yeah, I think...

1:25:17🔗 Drew You could be having abnormal sleep and even subtle changes in your sleep can really make you fatigue during the day.

1:25:21🔗 Caller Because it's really not normal. I'll go to the gym and work out, but then I come home and I have to like lay down or in the middle of working out, I have to like lean on a counter because I'm so exhausted.

1:25:31🔗 Drew And there were some recent publications about sort of fibromyalgia and those types of syndromes in people who do have the silicone leak. So that does seem to happen in those situations. But it does? It does.

1:25:45🔗 Adam Okay, because all the stuff I've ever heard about the silicone stuff is that they never really got any concrete evidence on it.

1:25:51🔗 Drew In terms of true rheumatic disease, but in terms of sort of fatigue, that's the one that sort of sticks around.

1:25:56🔗 Caller They still look great, but I did have a guy I was dating say, what's that? Like when he felt an area that was kind of, you know, not right, kind of felt like a boulder.

1:26:05🔗 Adam Well, where'd he go to finishing school? How big are they? What's that?

1:26:12🔗 Caller Well, you can just kind of feel where it doesn't feel right. It just kind of, like I said, it feels like, you know, how blank it looks when it kind of has ruffles.

1:26:20🔗 Adam It feels like a little serrated, like there's a little speed bump or something.

1:26:23🔗 Caller Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1:26:24🔗 Adam Like playing a washboard?

1:26:26🔗 Caller Yeah. So I just, I mean...

1:26:29🔗 Adam You can get a Zydeco band with those things. How big are they?

1:26:33🔗 Caller They're thirty-sixty. They're not huge. And I... It was the most painful surgery I've ever gone through because it went into the muscle, and if you can imagine somebody reaching in your chest and pulling your muscle away from your breastbone, I don't really want to go through it again.

1:26:45🔗 Adam Well, I've had the procedure done, so I know.

1:26:48🔗 Caller Okay.

1:26:48🔗 Caller So you know what I'm talking about.

1:26:50🔗 Adam What's your... What's a plastic surgeon say?

1:26:53🔗 Caller Well, he said he thinks that the saline may have leaked and that he could do the surgery again and replace them, and he wants to replace them with just silicone.

1:27:04🔗 Drew Right, which is back in again.

1:27:05🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:27:06🔗 Adam Why just silicone? Oh, they were back?

1:27:08🔗 Caller They were better and more natural, yeah.

1:27:09🔗 Adam Well, they feel better. Listen, I felt a silicone sack, just the actual sack in my hand and the saline sack, and actually Anderson's nut sack, I felt at the same time, because I want to get some perspective. The silicone felt the best. Yeah.

1:27:26🔗 Caller But, you know, when they were going to put them in, I did a lot of research and I asked the doctor, you know, are they going to be good for life? I'm a pretty young person. I was only 22 at the time. You know, when I'm 80, are they still going to be good? And he said, oh, you can run them over with the car, they won't burst.

1:27:40🔗 Drew Yeah, these surgeries are rarely a one-time thing. They're usually a lot of revisions.

1:27:45🔗 Adam All right. I mean, look, everything needs, the 10-year pain on your house has to be redone once in a while.

1:27:52🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:27:53🔗 Adam You got to go back. You got to deal with the plastic surgeon. And I mean, this is one of those nothing's free kind of things.

1:28:00🔗 Henry Rollins Yep.

1:28:01🔗 Caller Right?

1:28:02🔗 Drew But a lot of people don't realize that there's the, it's not a one-time thing. There's often some revisions involved.

1:28:06🔗 Caller Dean?

1:28:07🔗 Adam Yeah. Dean, you're 32.

1:28:09🔗 Caller Pardon me?

1:28:10🔗 Adam Yes, I am. What's up?

1:28:12🔗 Caller Yeah, I had a question for Henry there, and I just wanted to tell you guys, you're doing a great job on the show.

1:28:19🔗 Adam Well, thanks.

1:28:20🔗 Caller I live in America for about seven, eight months out of the year, and I live in Australia the other time of the year.

1:28:25🔗 Adam What do you do there?

1:28:26🔗 Caller I own a consulting company, an internet consulting company, Computers and Networking, and I'm not here to plug the company. I just, I was listening to Henry, and I've listened to him before, and I've caught some of his acting that he's done on the shows that he's been on, and I kind of appreciate him behind the music. The music's good, but the perception of what he stands for is what's captivating, and I appreciate his, if you will, his morale behind it, and I wanted his opinion about what he thought this next era of music is going to offer, because we've got the Britneys and the Backstreet Boys, as opposed to what rock really used to be, and I just thought I'd kind of chat him up a second and see what he thought about that.

1:29:09🔗 Henry Rollins All right.

1:29:09🔗 Adam What do you say, Henry?

1:29:10🔗 Henry Rollins I'll give you my densest, most concentrated version of the answer, which I can go very long on. If you remember your music history from the last several years, there's, it's always a cycle. You know, by the late 70s, you've got all that quailuded out rock, and then the punk rockers came in and kind of blew the stuffings out of the scene and woke everyone up, and then that turned into New Wave, and it got all very safe and very boring, and then the hair band started coming out of the cracks in the walls, and Bon Jovi had a silly blonde hair stack and his tinfoil trench coat not handing out flowers from a cherry picker, and then Kurt Cobain and company came in, and all of a sudden poor old Bon Jovi is wearing flannel and stripping his hair down saying, oh, I always looked like this. And so basically, I think right now we're in one of those musical resting periods before the next new breeze blows in and knocks the hell out of what's standing around. What you have happen is you have music that can exist only when there's nothing strong enough to knock it out. Like Vanilla Ice, he sold seven million records until everyone came out of their weird American stupor and went, what the hell was I thinking? And they...

1:30:26🔗 Adam Careful, I like him. Careful.

1:30:28🔗 Caller Yeah, well, you would.

1:30:30🔗 Henry Rollins But anyway, I think we're in a phase like that. We're in a few years from now. Used record stores are going to be overrun with five-inch pieces of zinc-coated plastic with the likes of Brittany Spears and these other bands of today, and everyone's going to wake up and go, whoa, where's my Allman Brothers CD? And so I'm looking forward to this because whenever there's that musical change, when the new breeze comes in and blows out the old, I always have a good two-year ride. So I'm looking forward to whatever's coming in to knock the crap out of what's kind of filthifying the contemporary music scene today, which I think is just basically well traveled by a bunch of little pussy bands who I could just grind up in my rear molars.

1:31:16🔗 Adam Hey Dean?

1:31:17🔗 Caller Yes?

1:31:17🔗 Adam Is that covered for you?

1:31:19🔗 Caller Yeah, it pretty much does because I'm not a music expert or a connoisseur, but growing up from the late 70s, as far as being born in 69 and late 70s is when I started to really know what music was. I've seen the change and the comment was made, have we evolved to Britney Spears being on top of the heap and whatnot? I'm not a hardcore metal fan or I'm not a Kenny G fan. I've got a variance of appreciation of all music. Henry is there, he's in the running, and I've really latched on to what he stood for over the years and he hasn't done the sad bandwagon thing. I just thought I'd chat him up and see what he thought about it because it seems like...

1:32:04🔗 Adam All right, all right, all right, wow. Dean should do some spoken work.

1:32:09🔗 Caller That's right.

1:32:09🔗 Adam Wow, that guy's got some wind in his sail. Now, we appreciate it, Dean, but we got to go to break, and I think what... I think Henry answered your question quite eloquently. We'll take ourselves a little break, and we'll be right back.

1:32:22🔗 Caller Hello, this is your radio radio.

1:32:31🔗 Adam All right, everybody. There we go. There we go. We thank Henry Rollins for coming on the show tonight. Nice name of the CD. Go out there and get that. Get the mic?

1:32:40🔗 Drew That's good. I got to get the mic.

1:32:42🔗 Adam All right, you want to punch it one more time for tomorrow night? No.

1:32:44🔗 Caller There you go.

1:32:46🔗 Adam All right, tomorrow night, Jerry Manthe from Survivor 2. Going to be in here talking about Playboy and all that good stuff. Long Beach Double Stars coming up on Wednesday. Until next time, Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:32:57🔗 Caller Yes, I am very Christian, non-dominational.

1:32:59🔗 Henry Rollins Well, then just forgive her.

1:33:02🔗 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors for this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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