0:20🔗
Voiceover
That's 1-800-LOVE-191. And now, here's Loveline, with your hosts Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.
0:33🔗
Drew
No, but it's an interesting sort of potential for its use there. Maybe we ought to be spreading it around.
0:39🔗
Adam
Yeah, like putting it in the drinking water like fluoride. No, why not? We put fluoride in the drinking water. Why? Just for the greater good. That's right. Why not do this? More importantly. Wait till I'm in charge. I'm going to stand at that aqueduct. I'm going to be dumping in birth control and mood stabilizers and Vicodin and maybe just a eye of newt. Oh, wow. Oh, it's going to be a big witch's brew that comes out of your faucet.
1:11🔗
Is there anything as safe as Zephyr Pivera?
1:14🔗
Excuse me, as effective as controlling birth that isn't as killer on the sex drive?
1:22🔗
Drew
Yeah. I mean, all the oral contraceptive pills, there are a couple of versions that actually tend to enhance sex drive. So the triphasic pills, the triphasol and ortho 7-7, whatnot, these can actually increase sex drive. So after she's three months after her last shot, she may want to switch over to the pill. Okay.
1:41🔗
Okay. Thanks, guys.
1:50🔗
Adam
Our callers are sort of, I was caught off guard there. Our callers are like insurance salesmen, and you run into them at a party. You know, for the last 20 minutes, you've been trying to wiggle your way out of the conversation. Well, you know, the wife's, she's a little under the weather, so I ought to be, or I got to piss, or you know, the keg looks like it's about empty. I'm going to run out there before.
2:11🔗
Drew
Sometimes I even start those conversations with, you know, I'm in a big hurry, I've got to leave in 10 minutes, I got to be out of here.
2:16🔗
Adam
Oh yes. They love to talk. Phone number for Loveline, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, fax number 310-8-5-4-44-55. I'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew, Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. Tonight, our guest will be the band Propellerheads. Now, actually, just Alex Gifford from Propellerheads, and he will be in here, what?
2:59🔗
Okay. All right.
3:00🔗
Adam
But we can find out from him when he comes in here in about 10 minutes. All right, until then, we'll dredge forward. Jade.
3:10🔗
I am here. Hi.
3:13🔗
I just want to know if a boy is molested as a young boy, will he grow up to be a pedophile?
3:26🔗
How do you know?
3:27🔗
Drew
You don't know. I don't know what circumstances. In other words, if you knew a child had been sexually abused as a youngster, how would you raise them, or what emotional support would you give them to decrease the probability that that would happen? I mean, one of the things you would, I mean, obviously, you know, anything that contributes to emotional health and security and sense of self-worth, you want to create a real stable environment for him, get treatment for him, help him establish relationships that are intimate with friends, and as he gets older with other people.
3:54🔗
Adam
Not too intimate, but you got to understand this. Whenever they do these tests, or these, whenever they throw statistics at you, understand that the kid who is involved in molestation, or who is brought up in a family where there is molestation, it's not only the molestation that is the driving force, but there's the family that's feeling him up.
4:19🔗
Drew
Or the circumstances in the family that lead to him being prone to be victimized. Right. You understand? That's a feature that it's hard to separate out from the fact of the victimization.
4:30🔗
Adam
Well, what I'm saying is, we got you, right? Yeah, you got me, Drew, but I don't know if everyone else has me.
4:36🔗
Adam
I'm just saying, it's not like you pulled, you know, Ozzy, one of Ozzy and Harriet's kids got molested and then thrust back in with Ozzy and Harriet. Most of the time, if you're a kid whose grandfather or father is feeling you up, that is your immediate family. That is what you're growing up around. There's alcoholism, there's confusion. So, not only is the molestation driving you in the future, but it's just growing up in total chaos above and beyond molestation.
5:04🔗
Drew
That or if, say, a perpetrator is from outside the family, what was it that led the kid to be such a fertile victim? What made him stray from the family and be able to be victimized in that way? Because that says something about the family too sometimes.
5:23🔗
I've been dating my boyfriend for nine months, and he just told me about three days ago that he's pretty sure his sister, his stepdad did stuff to his sister, and he does not know for sure if anything happened to him.
5:37🔗
Drew
Well, here's the data on men and women who are abused or young kids that are, that the basic, and I just read this in the journal the other day, and I thought it really met with my experience of all this, and that is that the predominant pattern, just in great generalities, are if a young boy is abused, the male tends to grow up to be somebody who objectifies other people and who tends to be a victimizer or a user, so to speak, while women...
6:09🔗
Oh, TV.
6:14🔗
Drew
.tend to pursue power by, again, objectifying men, but using them as a way to try to develop a position of power and power over that man.
6:24🔗
All right.
6:24🔗
Adam
But if it was an isolated thing and happened on one occasion, the guy's 25, 28 now, you've been seeing him for a while, he doesn't have a history of anything, it's not like he's going to snap on his 30th birthday.
6:35🔗
Drew
Much more serious concern she needs to be worried about is whether or not he's capable of having intimate relationships, and if he has them, are they going to be terribly chaotic?
7:02🔗
Yeah?
7:05🔗
Caller
I just started seeing this guy like two weeks ago, and he asked me if I ever slept with a girl, and I have like six months ago, and then he asked me if I ever had a threesome.
7:16🔗
Drew
Let me stop right there for a second. What the hell is with a guy that would know enough, I mean, would think to ask that question two weeks into a relationship.
7:26🔗
Drew
But then the answer is, oh yeah, just a couple months ago. I mean, how did a guy, you know what I'm saying?
7:38🔗
No.
7:42🔗
Adam
He may have just been part of the normal melon thumping process a guy goes through when he's meeting a new girl.
7:55🔗
Adam
No. You know. You've gone out with women and asked them questions about their past fairly early in the relationship. Sure you have. Chris?
8:11🔗
Caller
I was with a girl like six months ago. And then he asked me if I ever had a threesome. Well, when I was with the girl six months ago, there was also a guy in there.
8:33🔗
Yeah.
8:37🔗
Adam
No, I just mean the way she said it was, is the guy said, were you with a girl? And she said, yeah. And then he said, did you ever have a threesome? And she said, well, the time I was with the girl, there was a guy in there too. So I said yes. But it sounded to me like that was a technicality, like the guy may have just been cleaning the carpet or something. Pardon the pun. But he had a threesome?
9:42🔗
Drew
All right. Stay with that. That is absolutely where you should be and demand that. You just got over the compulsion to have threesomes.
9:59🔗
Drew
Yes. I mean, too much information. To my guess, he's the wrong guy, just kind of questioning he was doing to begin with.
10:35🔗
Yeah.
10:41🔗
Adam
All right, because you should have Mexican names. Although, you know, I live in LA and if you're not on El Vera Street, you're on Las Villas and you're heading into the San Fernando Valley. So I guess that is North Hollywood. Was he a famous general in the Spanish-American War? All right, Chris, we don't trust this guy. We don't trust you.
11:07🔗
Drew
We trust you as a person, but we don't trust your instincts. And I'm just telling you, you should trust your instincts to stand by what it is you want out of a relationship and not be so focused on the guy. But be careful with your instincts in terms of who you choose.
11:29🔗
Caller
Okay. I'm just wondering if it's a good idea for me to break up with my boyfriend right now, because he doesn't have time for me and it doesn't take time for me.
11:41🔗
He always work and I believe that if you really love and care for the person, no matter what, you know, no matter what world you're into, you always take time to spend with an important person.
12:15🔗
Yeah, and my friends told me I have to be patient because you know I have to understand.
12:22🔗
Adam
That's funny. Friends give the wrong advice even though they run the gamut in wrong advice. Like there's certain people that give you the wrong advice but it's consistently wrong. Our caller's friends give them the wrong advice 100% of the time. If the girl is with a guy too much, they give one set of advice, it's wrong. And if he's not there, and he's only there once a month, he tells him to stick it out. Wrong again.
13:05🔗
Adam
Hold on. I love when you throw a bizarre hypothetical out, and because it can't be unsubstantiated, they're gonna just go, I don't know. He's not-
13:36🔗
I can't wait for next month.
13:42🔗
He's not at home.
14:09🔗
In his house, doesn't have an answering machine.
14:21🔗
Caller
He works a lot that he even sleeps at his work. And he's like, okay, at first I'm trying to understand.
14:27🔗
Adam
All right. Listen, Shell, get a carrier pigeon, tape a note to its ankle. Do birds have ankles, Drew?
14:36🔗
Adam
Or they just have legs? You hear about the bird leg, but you don't hear about the bird knee, the bird calf, the bird shin.
14:44🔗
Adam
Okay. The point is, tape something. Oh, please don't bother us. Just call. Hey, Shell, what are we arguing with her over? You know, go over to the guy's house, pin a note to his door, tell the guy to call you, it's urgent, and then break up. Or just move on as if you've broken up and wait for him to call you in a month. God, I wish I could find someone like Shell today. Cindy.
15:28🔗
Caller
Okay, well, I'm just 29 and started out as a gay from when I was really young. And, um...
15:43🔗
Drew
Or whatever, let's claim, let's not even try to... Let's say you were born gay, whatever.
15:56🔗
Caller
And so, but, you know, like I said, I dated, you know, quite a few women. I had a really bad experience with one. I was with her for, like, five years. And, um, yeah, she was, like, a druggy and everything. And then, um, ended up breaking that off. And I kind of got fed up with women after dating so many, especially pretty women. They're so... seem to be screwed up.
16:27🔗
Caller
Uh-huh. Well, actually, I, you know, was dating men at the same time, too, you know, in between relationships with women. It's just kind of like, really, what I wanted to do is fall in love with a man more than anything in the world.
17:18🔗
Caller
Well, just where do you think this will end up? What's best for my daughter, what's best for my husband?
17:24🔗
Drew
So you found a guy, the first guy you found after that chaotic relationship, you're married?
17:29🔗
Caller
That I really, really, I'm sorry, my daughter's in the background. You guys kind of caught me at a weird time.
17:41🔗
Caller
Distant as in emotionally. He doesn't open up his feelings very much, no. He knows everything, of course, that's going on in my head. I, you know, had a conversation the other night, just, you know, kind of like sometimes I feel like I can't keep doing this, but...
18:09🔗
Adam
Listen, I got news for everybody out there. First off, there's no one you're going to find who after about three years, you're not going to be bored of looking at naked. That's the biology, baby. There's no one you're going to find out there who after five or eight years of marriage, you're not going to be running down the stairs to greet them when they come home from work. You know what I mean? That's life. That wears off.
18:44🔗
Drew
You don't even know this world exists, I think. The one, the family commitment, the one we really get involved with somebody in a way that's kind of deep. Yeah. And then all that stuff seems kind of silly.
18:59🔗
Drew
The more superficial stuff. Yeah, the running to the door to greet somebody. It's like not even important.
19:03🔗
Adam
Here's my point. People are so busy chasing after their, you know, sort of visceral muse that they want to jump ship after a few years.
19:17🔗
Adam
Yeah, right. I mean, it's like, hey, I've been with a guy for five years. It's time to bury myself in a woman's legs. I'm going to move it around. I got to do something different. I got to be me.
19:29🔗
Adam
People in this society, they're like sharks. They think they got to keep swimming forward, otherwise they're going to die. And they're usually swimming away from some wreck, some merchant ship with their family name on the side of it that took a torpedo in it and is going down fast. And they're just swimming and not even looking back.
19:51🔗
Adam
Right. So the deal is, is you're going to get up with somebody else. Maybe it's a man, maybe it's a woman, maybe it's a houseplant. And three years into that thing, you're going to be looking to do the same thing again.
20:05🔗
Drew
I agree with you. There's a little more complexity in that her history with relationships has been very chaotic. And so she needs that element, and that's what's missing in this one. Very unhealthy impulse. The other side of this, though, is that she's trying to live her life as a straight person when she's actually gay. And that is a very, very difficult thing to do for an extended period of time. I think because there's a kid and because Adam, I agree that that's the time that you must make some sacrifice now. Get a therapist. It's a perfect circumstance to be working professionally with somebody and try to sort this all out. To see... I mean, you even have some question about whether or not you're actually gay or not. I mean, get this sorted out on behalf of your child and in the meantime, hang in.
20:52🔗
Adam
Everybody just sort of tuned out, you know, the old zone down. That's all right. You look good doing it though. Drew's got a new haircut. All right, sell the next call, Drew, and then we'll go to break. We'll be back with Alex Gifford from the Propellerheads.
21:07🔗
Drew
Akuma wants to know if he wants to pursue, should pursue a girl who has been very catic in her history.
21:16🔗
Love Line's phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191. Love Line, Love Line, with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.
21:22🔗
We'll be right back.
21:23🔗
W-E-B-N.
21:43🔗
Adam
Hey, it's Loveline, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Alex Gifford is here from Propellerheads. They're a... Well, this is your first full-length album release, isn't it?
22:00🔗
Adam
Lean up against the mic a little closer there, and go ahead and turn it on. There, Mike. Thank you, buddy. We kind of caught you off balance. And I'll tell you what I'd like to do. I'd like to just play a cut off it so everyone can hear the cut, and then we can come back and talk about it, and that way people will know what you're about when we're talking to you.
26:19🔗
Adam
That would be history repeating from Propellerheads off Decks and Drums and Rock and Roll. And that is a song where we use part of the riff of that as some sort of intro or outro on this show, right?
26:44🔗
Adam
No, I don't always do that. Sometimes I go right to the calls. It always means it's a bad thing. Well, listen, no, I got to tell you, you know, musically I'm sort of more inclined to just four or five piecers who sit around and do it all at once, and sampling and that kind of stuff is not my bag, but that sounded great.
27:06🔗
Propellerheads
Well, it kind of, I think the line is getting much more blurred, really, between traditional bands and sampling and stuff. Sampling is used so much in every kind of production now, and both Will, my partner and myself, are kind of fairly traditional musicians, really, so we do sit around and play together.
27:24🔗
Adam
Yeah, the goldfinger, but I want to, I'll talk about that one second, Drew, and thanks for that silky transition, but I wanted to say that Money, the record guy, was telling me that Alex was in the Stranglers, played saxophone in the Stranglers.
27:42🔗
Adam
And I'm trying to think of, Money couldn't think of it either. What was that Strangler song, K-Rock, or one of the, probably the most popular song that the Stranglers did that K-Rock used to play? Hmm? No, no, that wasn't, that's not the song I'm thinking of.
28:03🔗
Propellerheads
Was it like, it wasn't like Golden Brown or that was a big hit or a mellow one?
28:30🔗
Adam
I gotta think of this one. I swear I had to do with killing somebody or something like that.
28:39🔗
Adam
Engineer Mike's gonna go find an old Strangler CD back there. Calls, calls, calls. Well, wait a minute. I want to talk about... Who was it? Shirley Bassey? Was that the Goldfinger? Yeah, Shirley Bassey who did the vocals on that song.
29:02🔗
Propellerheads
We just asked her. Well, we wrote this song for her with her in mind. And just sent a demo of it to her management. And after a suitable delay, she kind of got back to us and said she was up for doing it.
29:21🔗
Propellerheads
Well, you know, not like on a weekly basis. But I mean, her career is about 40 years, 40 years long. So it's just like, especially to British people, she's such a kind of household name. She's like royalty.
29:41🔗
Propellerheads
No, no, I think like other than the Bond songs, she's obviously what she's known best for. People don't really know people. Shirley Basie.
29:52🔗
Propellerheads
She's like a kind of show singer in that sense, like big songs and always been doing like, she did Big Spender and you know, it's just like those big songs.
30:09🔗
Propellerheads
No, the horns are actually on this are a loop from the soundtrack to a Russ Meyer movie.
30:17🔗
Propellerheads
From Fine Speakers, Lovers Weebers. And in fact, we met up and he met Russ? Yeah, he invited us up to his house for lunch and then he came down to the Viper Room. We were spending there one night.
30:37🔗
You know that?
30:44🔗
Adam
It gets a little warm over there for you blokes. But I'm a big fan of Russ' work. I really am.
31:12🔗
Yeah, it's Akuma.
31:15🔗
Caller
All right. I met this girl like a couple of months ago. And like we've been going out and stuff and hanging out at her house. And she was like telling me like her past her past relationships, her boyfriends and really really chaotic.
31:32🔗
Caller
Like one of her boyfriends, like forced her to have sex with him. And another one, like he hit her, like abusive. And like another like one of her boyfriends, like went to jail for robbery.
31:45🔗
Drew
OK, so at the very least, they all sound abusive. Not necessarily chaotic, but I think it's a good bet, too.
31:52🔗
Caller
So and I'm like, the thing is, I'm starting to have feelings for her, you know, and I'm wondering, should I try to pursue racist relationship or am I asking for trouble?
32:02🔗
Adam
I'm asking for trouble, but I don't think she's going to be interested in you unless you're a potential felon.
32:16🔗
Adam
Our experience is that people get what they go after and it's never a coincidence if you've been hooked up with five alcoholics in a row, your sixth guy you go out with is either going to have to start drinking or he's going to get dumped. Even if they say that's not what they want, that's the reality.
32:34🔗
Drew
If you really begin to get her to address what she's been doing and you can talk about it in a realistic way, possibly she'll be wanting to make a change. I mean, people are, one thing I noticed in this show, we condemn people to the patterns they've established as youth. That's true. People have the capacity for change. It's difficult and they have to be willing to hang in and open themselves to some vulnerability. But, you know, how old is she?
33:02🔗
Adam
Yeah, these changes usually come in the mid-40s. It's the unfortunate problem. After they get big and ugly, and you don't care if they change or not. Honey, you're hitting menopause. Do whatever you want emotionally.
33:23🔗
Adam
Keep an eye open. Yeah, it's too bad people. Oh, I don't know. I swear some sociologists ought to sit down one day and figure out what three-year period is the greatest period for psychological change.
33:48🔗
Adam
Yeah. I know it's kind of a retarded scenario I've brought forward. But you know what I mean? I mean, is a person more apt to change at 30, 31, and 32? Or is it going to be 20, 21, and 22?
34:01🔗
Drew
I've read data to suggest that a lot of the chaos that erupts in the 20s can burn out in the 40s. In other words, some of this tends to die down.
34:12🔗
Adam
Listen, I don't care about chaos. We got to take a break because I got to figure out what strangler song I'm trying to think of.
34:18🔗
Adam
And then we'll come back and, well, you got something? You got a strangler song? You want me to come in there? Okay. That's good. We'll go to break.
34:50🔗
Adam
What's going on here? Phone number for Loveline, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Alex Gifford is here from Propellerheads.
34:59🔗
Adam
Decks and Drums and Rock and Roll is the name of the CD. It is their, wait a minute, did I get in this before? This is your first full-length.
35:20🔗
Propellerheads
The basis of modern production, so you're saying to me that you're a traditionalist, but now you're learning about loops here.
35:26🔗
Adam
Here I am sampling myself. Is there something good in your pizza and it's At least I sampled, at least I sampled myself. It's not some old BB, I was gonna say BB King, but Wolfman Jack Radio Chum. All right, Drew, Drew's had enough of me.
35:42🔗
Hi.
36:49🔗
Adam
Well, you know, the thing that I've always found interesting about guys who go for that sort of bonsai approach, where they just stick their arm out, close their eyes and start running toward a group of women.
37:00🔗
Adam
I always wonder, what is your angle? You know what I mean? It's sort of the same one that says, Hey, nice jugs, baby. Like that she's going to stop and come back your direction, or that you're going to feel her ass and she's going to go, God, that feels good. You want to feel some more of me out in the parking lot? I mean, I want to feel asses too, but that's why I don't grab asses.
37:28🔗
Caller
Well, we were actually talking before this. I just didn't go right up to her and do that.
37:40🔗
Adam
Right, but here's what our, because we're sort of sane, but here's what we'd like to know. I understand you wanting to feel her ass, so you're talking to her, but aren't you thinking, you know, if I just hold out from ass grabbing, I may be grabbing more, you know, the next time I see her, and she wouldn't call the cops.
38:08🔗
Drew
Well, that's impulse control problems and some problem with boundaries and normal social.
38:17🔗
Caller
Well, her mom came and picked her up, so I like hugged her and did that, and then she left, and then...
38:39🔗
Adam
No. We've dealt with people who screwed up phones, but your phone is possessed, Tony. Now, what was that?
39:02🔗
Adam
Well, wait a minute. But if you're going to do a bogus call, why do you have two guys? One, is this second Tony trying to do the first Tony's voice?
39:11🔗
Caller
No, actually, there's only one Tony. Everybody else is sleeping here. It's like almost three o'clock in the morning, or two o'clock in the morning here.
39:54🔗
No.
40:07🔗
Adam
How often does the other Tony try? And by the way, when the other Tony talks, do you move your finger like the kid did? You know when he was saying Red Brum?
40:18🔗
Adam
For Christ's sake, Drew's never seen The Shining. Oh, Jesus Christ. I should get paid a hazard pay for working with a guy, trying to do comedy with a guy who does not get a Shining reference, for Christ's sake. Tony? Yes? Let me speak to little Tony. Do what? Oh, I can't, I know. All right, so what do you guys want to do? Do you want to move forward with the call? Or do you want to tell him to get a license and put him on hold?
41:14🔗
Adam
And try not to feel anyone up on the way to the sink. Okay. Kind of hard to figure him out because on one hand, he has a problem that is something that you don't want to just gloss over. On the other hand, he sounds like a fairly sane guy for two people. I mean, for a guy who's impulsive the way he is.
42:07🔗
Caller
He came to pick me up. My boyfriend came to pick me up for going to go out. And my dad just kind of like flipped out and was like, she's not going. And my boyfriend kind of got mad at him.
42:42🔗
Caller
I don't know. I mean, I've been seeing this guy for like a year. And my parents have met him and everything. But he doesn't get along with my dad.
43:35🔗
Adam
I was wondering, I guess I'll clue Alex in on this. Whenever we hear girls with the little girl voice, it always means something's going on with dad. Now, I can't figure out, and we don't always know what it is, but there's always something going on.
44:48🔗
Adam
Well, of course. Well, unless she, her mom is screwed up enough to take this guy for a husband.
44:55🔗
Drew
And then not to have him jailed for what he's done to her daughter. That's just, that's just, all right. Adam sent the team. I can't even contain myself.
45:03🔗
Adam
Drew's going ballistic over here. I mean, it's not that going ballistic for Drew and Paul standing up or anything.
45:19🔗
Adam
Hold on a second. We got to go to break. And then we'll come back and we'll make it all better.
45:29🔗
Adam
Okay. Hold on a second. You know, it always, it amazes me because I happen to know that if Drew, if Drew got drunk and help some chick painter toenails, your wife would leave you.
45:50🔗
Adam
Could you imagine, can you imagine your husband having sex with your daughter and sort of putting it behind you?
46:06🔗
Adam
She'd come right over here with a head of steam and kick my ass. She'd say, he was normal before he met you.
46:14🔗
Adam
And she'd probably go kick my parents' asses. What I would, I'd like her to go there before she came here actually.
46:22🔗
Adam
She would be like a badger on a double cappuccino. It just, she would jump onto your head and it would look like something out of the Road Runner cartoon. She'd just spin around your head and just be a cloud of hair and those little squiggly things going off your head. And when it came back, your eyes would have two crosses where the eyeballs used to be. Oh, and imagine what would happen to your penis.
46:51🔗
Adam
That would be it. She already, as it is, she keeps it in a preserved jar on the nightstand. Imagine what she'd do with it. Take it out and run over it with the car. Okay, we'll be back. All right, Alex Gifford is here from Propellerheads. Dex, I can't read it off the album. I got to read it off my sheet because it's all put together.
47:29🔗
Adam
Dex and Drums and Rock and Roll is the name of the CD, and we will hear something else off of that, I imagine, before the night is through. Drew?
47:38🔗
Drew
Yeah, Alex was talking to me off the air about, he began a discussion with me that I wanted to bring up on the air about how British people view these kinds of discussions in the open medium, and I've been doing this show for 15 years, and in the 80s we particularly had a lot of British types on this show, and it was always amazing how much every single one of them would come on, and their initial reaction, the vast majority, was to be offended, because they would say, look, these are personal problems, it's so offensive for people to bring personal problems, and not only are they personal, should they be kept personal, but you're asking us to comment on them, and they'd get angry. This happened from years and years.
48:20🔗
Propellerheads
But carrying on the tradition, I mean, it's not so much that I'd be offended by a lot of people in Britain. I think I'm just surprised at the willingness of people here to just talk about stuff in public when they wouldn't do it in private TV.
48:33🔗
Drew
We go to these colleges, and we do college tours and stuff, and we'll be in a room with 5,000 kids, and they stand up in front of God, and their peers and everybody, and ask these same questions.
48:40🔗
Propellerheads
Yeah, it's like as if it kind of doesn't count. People aren't going to say, I heard you the other night.
48:47🔗
Adam
Well, it's sort of like actually somebody was asking me last night at this MTV party that Drew and I went to which was kind of fun with the wall flowers played and it was free food and booze.
49:01🔗
Adam
Yeah, they sent the limo. They took care of us. I got some free food, some free booze. I got to talk to the wall flowers. I had a good time. Yes, nothing but praise for the MTV. I know. I hate going to those things because I think about all the things I say about them on the air. And then I realize I'm eating their sushi. So I said to somebody who was saying to me the same thing, how do you expect people to react this way? Or actually, her question was, how do you get the guess to jump in, like yourself tonight, Alex, or on the TV show, to relax and start opening up and discussing things?
49:49🔗
Adam
It's difficult to tell. I said it's sort of like this. It's like asking you how you get someone naked at a nude beach, which is you drag them on to the nude beach and then you get naked. And before you know it, they're the only one standing with their clothes on and feeling like idiots, so then they get nude, too.
50:06🔗
Drew
I think it's a little less pernicious. It is more that how do you get people to engage in conversation in your living room? When people start to talk about certain topics, you get drawn in.
50:23🔗
Adam
Oh, that's right, Anna. Oh, and then there's Tony, Red Rum Tony. Hold on, I just want to check in with him. Tony?
50:38🔗
Adam
Okay. Hold on a second. We got to finish up with Anna. Okay. All right. Where's that other voice? Do what?
51:20🔗
Drew
Dad was afraid he might get his daughter pregnant. You know, let's be sure to get her some contraception.
51:26🔗
Drew
Notice the real sickness here. Hey, honey, we've got to get our daughter on contraception. I might get her pregnant.
51:52🔗
Adam
Wait a minute. This is too sick and too bizarre. I mean, not that I don't believe Anna because I can feel it in her, but this is...
52:22🔗
Drew
I mean, this is an impaired physician. This is a very serious situation. And I mean, this is really serious because God knows how many other people he may be adversely impacting.
52:33🔗
Caller
I know. Like, that's the reason why I think that he's so mad at my boyfriend is because I told him.
52:55🔗
Caller
My mom's kind of like, I'm the youngest. Like, I have an older half-sister who's, like, 35.
53:12🔗
Drew
You got to talk to your sisters. I really strongly encourage you to. This stuff drives me crazy. And when I hear about teachers and physicians potentially miscarrying, we don't know whether this guy has done this, but he's certainly somebody who could or would.
53:26🔗
Adam
Listen, this guy could blow up the White House, for Christ's sake. I could blow up the White House faster, and I could have sex with my daughter.
53:52🔗
Drew
But even better that that one should be the one she goes to, so she isn't so invested in this and can take care of it.
53:57🔗
Adam
Well, looking at it this way, this mother picked her dad, the half-sister's dad, this witch of a mother.
54:28🔗
Caller
I tried to once and he asked my parents if it was true and they just told them that like I was crazy and that I made it all up. And so now like.
54:40🔗
Drew
He has an obligation, he may not understand this, but he has to report that once it's been.
54:46🔗
Drew
It is absolutely required by the law. Are you in California? No. I'm not sure if the other states have the same kind of requirements, but in California, even when there's even the possibility of a suspicion, you are required to report it.
55:00🔗
Adam
And if they find fireworks on your dad, he's really, if he's smoking or if he finds any sparklers in like the trunk of his Lexus, he's going down. I mean, that's now, now that's a felony, right, Drew?
55:22🔗
Adam
Oh boy. Jesus, can you? Hey, oh my God. I'm trying to think of your boyfriend, though. Is your boyfriend a sane guy?
56:02🔗
Drew
Yeah, but these people, I don't think we should be telling her to do anything specific because this is such a volatile situation where the House of Cards is coming down for this guy.
56:22🔗
Drew
Well, and I think the only thing we can tell you clearly to do is to go to the authorities. Okay, if this is really happening and if you are in danger, you must go to the local authorities.
56:35🔗
Drew
I don't know. I don't really even want to know what city, because I don't want this to get out in that area and her to be in further danger. Okay, but I do want to talk to you off the air. So I'm going to ask you to hold on, but we're not done with you yet here on the air. Okay. I'll give you a phone number. Okay, it's a national hotline. It's open presently. It's 1-800-
56:57🔗
Yeah.
57:06🔗
Drew
1-800-422-4453. But this is not about you, understand. Your parents are disturbed people. They need help. They need containment. This is an out of control situation that's starting to come to unravel. It's not your fault. And you need protection while this comes apart if indeed this is something for real. Now, we have no way of knowing if this is really happening or not. We have no way of knowing.
57:30🔗
Drew
Yeah, but we're not here to treat you, Anna, or to direct you specifically, except to understand one clear thing, that if you are in danger and if people are abusing you, that needn't happen and you should call authorities locally. You should not worry that this is something that you were doing or that you deserve.
58:00🔗
Adam
Yeah. Hey, Anna? Whatever your participation in this was, it doesn't matter. You're a minor. You're a victim. Do you understand? This is all 100% your dad and mother's fault. Please call that number. And Drew will talk to you off the air.
58:21🔗
Drew
Okay, hold on. This is, you know, of course, people still love their parents when they're outrageous, horrible human beings. And you don't want to disrupt their families. They don't want to cause pain for people.
58:33🔗
Adam
I don't know. My folks missed a couple of Pop Warner football games when I was 11 or 12, and I'm still pissed.
58:39🔗
Drew
The nightmare has come true for them, too. You got a radio show and keep talking about it every night.
59:02🔗
Adam
Well, all that on the pill part. I mean, oh my God. All right. Now, Drew, would you be for having a guy like this destroyed? Like an animal. I don't say killed, and I don't even say put to death. I just mean destroyed like an animal that has some sort of disease that the animal is only going to suffer and he could infect the other ones in the herd. Do you know what I'm saying? Don't you just destroy this guy like an animal?
59:35🔗
Drew
I'm so overwhelmed by the whole situation that I can't pass judgment. It just needs to be- Anna needs to be saved from this.
59:57🔗
Adam
You know, it seems how our last call was so heavy. It seems sort of, I don't know, superfluous to speak to Tony now, doesn't it? Like maybe we're demeaning ourselves somehow.
1:00:23🔗
Yeah.
1:00:29🔗
Caller
He, I live in Tucson. My mom went to a business meeting in Phoenix and I had to stay with him for a few days. And the first morning I was over there, he had one of his friends over there. And I woke up that morning and I walked into the room and they were in the same bed. And I was, he said, what are you doing, Mark? Am I just seeing if you were awake? And I, so I went back out and I asked him that, that morning during breakfast, who was that guy in your bed? And he was like, oh, it's no one.
1:01:11🔗
Caller
Yeah. So we, when I went home that next, when I went home, like three days later, I told my mom and he, and she said, well, it's probably nothing.
1:01:42🔗
Adam
He does. Does he use a, does he have a shower door like one of those clear, loose-side shower doors?
1:01:55🔗
Adam
Two of them. Not only is this guy gay, but it could be in some sort of a ritualistic homosexual activity. I mean, he's got two squeegees. Is he, what kind of car does he drive?
1:02:16🔗
Adam
Well, that's all right. You know, most guys have uncles that are, you know, fat, and they work on some used car lot, and they drink too much.
1:02:34🔗
Drew
It's not your business, Mark, but you're a straightforward guy, and you've noticed this thing, and they...
1:02:38🔗
Adam
Listen, my uncle Vince, you think I asked him, hey, when's the last time you nailed Aunt Pat? Well, then talk to him about it.
1:02:47🔗
Drew
All right, then don't. But understand that that's who he is, and that's fine. And if it helps in keeping the relationship close, talk to him about it.
1:03:01🔗
Adam
OK, I didn't know what he was saying. Mark, I'm sure your uncle Mark's fairly precocious, isn't he?
1:03:06🔗
Drew
That's the point. I mean, Mark is on top of things, and he should be able to talk about what his uncle feels like, especially if it helps the relationship stay close.
1:03:16🔗
Adam
They'll take you to the museum, the opera, see shows, a gypsy will blow through town next month. You see that. This is culture. That's good. My uncle Vince, he played pinochle, and he was a bartender. Do anything fun with him. Went down to the beach once in a while.
1:03:41🔗
Adam
You know, I was thinking about Dr. Drew, yeah, go ahead, I don't need you for this, but the thing I found interesting about the Brits is they're certainly more reserved than Americans are, in many ways. But on the other hand, they have Page Three Girls, for instance, which is big-busted, topless women in some of their newspapers, which we would never have.
1:04:15🔗
Adam
All right. But here's what I'm saying. And you like your comedy. The comedy is like Monty Python and Benny Hill. And at those parliament things, they start yelling at each other. I've seen those things on C-SPAN, you know, where they go, let's see, what was it, with the right honorable gentleman from Sussex. And then everyone starts yelling at him.
1:04:41🔗
Adam
No, we don't. We just sit there and then we talk crap, you know, when the guy's done, but we don't shout him down. Here's all I'm saying about the Brits is, they're very reserved in many ways, but there's other ways. Like I said, you know, they...
1:04:57🔗
Adam
But wouldn't you say that the British enjoy a more, a broader slapstick humor, let's say, than Americans?
1:05:05🔗
Propellerheads
Uh, it's... I don't know, my slapstick... I mean, it has been. I think we're just... We're kind of obsessive about humor, definitely. I mean, it's one thing that we do well.
1:05:29🔗
Adam
So, I'm just saying, but it's funny, when it comes to a show like this, that wouldn't really fit in, in the culture.
1:05:37🔗
Propellerheads
That wouldn't, but then... I mean, you know, at the same time, we wouldn't... I mean, there's some things we'd be very open about, like, for example, we have comedians being, like, really down on the government or on the Royal Family, but then we wouldn't be reinforcing sexual stereotypes like you just did with that kind there. For example, because that would be... Really? Oh, yeah, absolutely, that's an offense. You couldn't get away with that.
1:06:06🔗
Propellerheads
Absolutely, you can, but people would say that in a show like this, you probably... if you're dealing with younger people who are, you know, open to...
1:06:17🔗
Adam
Well, to be fair to me, I just asked him what kind of car he drove. He's the one who drove the Miata. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
1:06:24🔗
Propellerheads
But I mean, you know, I'm not down on you here because this is your show and stuff.
1:06:29🔗
Propellerheads
You and Drew just had a routine whereby you were sort of coming up with a list of things and he was saying gay at the end of it. Right. And it's just... You know, obviously it's a humorous thing. Sure. But it's all subliminal.
1:06:49🔗
Adam
Our listeners know. They listen to Drew. All right. Now I'll tell you what we'll do. I think we'll go to break and then we'll come back. We'll fight some more. But we'll fight during the song.
1:07:03🔗
Adam
We'll be back. Alex Gifford is here from Propellerheads, and I'm trying to figure out the time in here. You all right there, Drew? Did you speak to our caller off the air?
1:07:44🔗
Adam
I think we'll take a call, and then we'll play another song from Propellerheads. Victoria.
1:08:02🔗
Caller
My friend, one of my best friends, her stepbrother and me have been flirting a lot lately, and we're just such good friends, and I'm sort of thinking that he might ask me out, and I don't know if I should.
1:08:37🔗
Caller
Because, like, I have, like, most of her friends like him, and it's just, like, weird because, you know, if you bring it up to her, she'll be like, okay, you know, I'm go home, you know, I'm going inside and she'll get, like.
1:08:51🔗
Drew
So she believes that she's concerned the people are her friend because of her brother.
1:09:02🔗
Caller
I mean, but her sister brought that up on the phone because me and her brother were talking. And it was just like, well, if she's going to talk to him, then, you know, she's not your real friend. And I was like, you know, don't believe that. I was your friend before I started liking him. But I know that I liked him.
1:09:25🔗
Drew
I mean, we have a problem with that even more than the friend of a boy, brother of a friend.
1:10:04🔗
Adam
I should have done drugs in high school. I did drugs later on when no one cared. Should have done it in high school or really cashed in on the checks.
1:10:13🔗
Caller
No, not exactly. This is like the first time that I've really gotten for someone like that.
1:10:20🔗
Drew
We're coming up with thumbs down on every count. He's older than we like to see for your age. He's a drug user. It's a bad sort of influence on you at 14. It's the father of a friend and potentially...
1:10:41🔗
Adam
Well, he doesn't do it in front of you, but you guys aren't... You don't spend a lot of time together, do you?
1:11:20🔗
Caller
And they think that he's cute in, like, a geeky type of way, but I don't see why. Like, okay, he's not really, like, geeky or anything, but they're just like... They tell it to her face, oh, he's okay, like a geeky sort of way.
1:11:31🔗
Adam
All right. I don't care what kind of way he's cute. Alex, do you think... What do you think, first off, about 17 and 14?
1:11:41🔗
Adam
Normally, three years ain't much, but that's a big three. I mean, at 17, you've potentially had your license for a year, you're well into puberty, you're essentially an adult with an adolescent mind, but I mean, hell, when I was 17, I was playing football and going out and drinking beers and stuff, and at 14, it was... Wait a minute, flip-flop here. Yeah, I was doing the same thing at 14, but I was shorter, and that's my point. Now, a girl at 14, I wouldn't want my 14-year-old girl going out with a 17-year-old guy. That's what I'm saying. If you all look at it that way, if you all picture it as your 14-year-old girl, I want my 14-year-old girl going out with a nine-year-old.
1:12:26🔗
Propellerheads
But the impulse of 14-year-old girls are more together than my 17-year-old guys, but the 17-year-old guys are more unpredictable.
1:12:37🔗
Propellerheads
I was thinking that maybe he might have just been saying that for a fake, but then if she says he's been doing it in front of his sister, then I guess that's the truth.
1:12:46🔗
Adam
All right. Well, so we all three give it a thumbs down. That's going to make her want him that much more. He's a rebel, this one. Okay. Propellerheads is the name of the band. Mike, you got it queued up. This is Velvet Pants. That's Velvet Pants. That's from Propellerheads. Dex Drums and Rock and Roll is the name of the CD. Alex Gifford is here. Alex is just going to hang out until the end of this break. So I think what we'll do is take one more call, and then we'll say bye to Alex and go to break. Is that all right with you?
1:17:08🔗
Adam
Well, you're not that happy to leave, though, right? Oh, no. No, actually, I want to give...
1:17:13🔗
Propellerheads
Both. Well, yeah, I'm based on, actually... I've just got a place in... Renting a place in New York for about a year.
1:17:35🔗
Adam
Botherpool. Let me give a plug for Alex, by the way. 7.13, when is that? That's tomorrow?
1:17:46🔗
Adam
He's gonna be in-store doing a spin performance at the Virgin Mega store, which is in Los Angeles. And then on the 17th, he'll be in Boston at noon, doing noon to two, doing some stuff. And then in New York on the 22nd, and Seattle on the 1st of August, and then in Denver on the 7th and 8th of August. So look for him.
1:18:15🔗
Propellerheads
No just convenient route that has been chosen so that I can do the maximum amount of traveling for the minimum number of gigs.
1:18:28🔗
Adam
Yeah, you go from LA to Boston and New York and then to Denver and Seattle. That makes sense.
1:18:57🔗
Caller
I have a medical question. I had a uterine cancer and I had my uterus removed a year ago, and I have not had any urges or secretion. I went to see my doctor about it and he said get KY Jelly. I want to know if there's a substance like a pill I can take over the counter that would give me secretion though I don't have to use a cream.
1:19:18🔗
Drew
No. The answer is no. There may be better creams as Ann has a whole cabinet full of different kinds of stuff she uses she was telling us about. But how about…
1:19:36🔗
Adam
People think I'm kidding but I got trapped in one of these college lectures with no hair goop and all I had was this Astro Glide and I slapped it on my head and it worked like a charm.
1:20:05🔗
Caller
They're functioning okay. I get my hormone level checked but I don't have any urges or secretion.
1:20:31🔗
Adam
Well, I guess it might. But isn't this a problem that solves itself? You don't have the urge to have sex.
1:20:39🔗
Drew
I think definitely water soluble lubricants are the way to go in terms of the secretion issue. As far as the pain goes, I mean sometimes estrogen creams helps with the sort of pliability of the tissue down there. You might talk to your doctor about that.
1:20:53🔗
Drew
Estrogen creams, yeah. And then also tell them about the pain. I mean they should be able to help you with that. I mean sometimes there can be a short canal and there are ways to stretch that out.
1:21:27🔗
Drew
The uterus might produce some stuff too, but usually I, this has not been a real common complaint than people I've been dealing with.
1:21:40🔗
Drew
It's an interesting phenomenon that I have seen in Hispanic women really believe that there's something about their femininity being removed when the uterus, the matrice has taken away.
1:21:52🔗
Drew
Isn't that interesting? And I don't know what that is. It's a cultural thing, if there really is some biological thing going on or what. But I've heard that complaint a number of times from Hispanic women.
1:22:25🔗
Adam
Flu comedy. Let me give the name of the band and the name of the record one more time, so people can go out there and find it at the local CD dispenser. Propellerheads is the name of the band. Dex and Drums and Rock and Roll is the name of the CD. Alex Giver, thank you very much.
1:22:44🔗
Adam
We do appreciate it. And anytime you're in town, you're crisscrossing this great country of ours.
1:22:56🔗
I feel so liquidy, really, like...
1:23:30🔗
Adam
Hey, it's Loveline. Now, Skifford is left from Propellerheads, and we wish them all the luck and success in the world. Hey, Drew. I don't know if you know about this, but we're going to do Hollywood Squares.
1:23:52🔗
Adam
Now, you know what's kind of weird is, there are certain things that we don't want to do.
1:24:02🔗
Adam
Okay. There are certain things I don't want to do, and there are certain things that Drew will not do. But Hollywood Squares is not one of them, because I grew up watching Hollywood Squares. And to me, the notion of being on that show is almost surreal.
1:24:28🔗
Adam
He'd watch Paul Lin, and he'd have Rosemarie would be next to him, and Grandpa, what's his name, and who the hell else was on that show? I was, I was, they had like, they had like some regulars. Four or five regulars. It just stayed on for what seemed like 20 seasons.
1:24:53🔗
Drew
I hear, I hear it's, they're, they're really moving up. I heard Whoopi Goldberg is in the middle square.
1:25:08🔗
Adam
Believe me, I know this stuff works. They tell you who they've contacted, not who's gonna be on. And meanwhile, we're nestled in between Mother Love and Jim J. Bullock. That's the way it's gonna work. Absolutely. Oh, yes.
1:25:23🔗
Adam
And like the fifth Baldwin brother. The one that hasn't been born yet. The Baldwin zygote.
1:25:41🔗
Adam
Oh, it is? That's going to be surreal. I think we're going to be stuffed in the same square. Wait till I break wind in that square, everybody. Believe me, I'm going to break wind in that square. It'll be a first for Hollywood Squares. All right, and how does that show work? They give you the real answer, or they don't give you the real answer, but I know they review the questions with you, so you can be funny.
1:26:13🔗
Adam
Oh, that's going to be excellent. You think my comedy is bad, everybody. Where do you see the written stuff that they want me to say? I have never been handed a piece of written copy that was worth the paper it was written on.
1:26:29🔗
Adam
Anything. Anything. All right, you ready to move ahead? So we'll keep you posted with that. That should be surreal. And what do we get paid? Do we get paid?
1:26:54🔗
Adam
You're 12. If they do all five of them in one day or something. Right. It's actually kind of fun, I guess.
1:27:02🔗
Caller
Well, I'm 12 and I'm pregnant and I mean I know that's a really young age and I have no clue what to do.
1:27:12🔗
Caller
Like, they're at home. I mean, I'm at my friend's house right now but it's just that I just, I asked my mom what she would do.
1:27:21🔗
Caller
No, no, I asked her. Like, when I was little, like when I was 10, I asked her what she would do if I was pregnant.
1:27:30🔗
Caller
She said that she would kick me out because she wouldn't want to take care of the baby because she's had four kids.
1:28:11🔗
Caller
Yeah, well, we're kind of messed up right now because he teased on me a lot. And when I was on the phone with my friend on Three Way, he asked her out.
1:28:22🔗
Caller
Because my cousin got me one of those pregnant testings because I felt really sick one day. And I told her about it. And I mean, we used the condom and we took about two of them. And they said that I was pregnant.
1:29:03🔗
Drew
Can you go to a doctor or play on parenthood, something like that, and get it checked out to make sure you're really pregnant?
1:29:10🔗
Drew
That's what you ought to do. I mean, you're going to have to get involved in health care one way or another here, right?
1:29:21🔗
Drew
I would think, you know what? You're going to need your parents' involvement here. I don't think you can get anything under the age of 14.
1:29:29🔗
Drew
Well, even health care, you need parental involvement, I think, under 14, most states. So, I mean, you got to tell your parents.
1:29:42🔗
Drew
Why don't you at least call Planned Parenthood? Let me give you a national number, okay?
1:29:46🔗
Adam
All right, hold on, let her go get a pen while Drew's priming himself to give this number out. What do you think's up at home, though, that she's 12 and giving it up?
1:30:16🔗
Caller
He's molested my cousin on my ninth birthday when I was there with all my friends. And he's just done a lot of crap.
1:30:25🔗
Caller
Yeah, he says like, he really messed me up. Like I had a band concert and he just messed up my flute and stuff. And like, it was like a big band concert. And I just hate the stuff he does. He means all my friends when they come over. I hate him. I mean, I tell my aunt like I want to kill him.
1:30:42🔗
Adam
But he molested your cousin in front of her. Well, not in front of her, but you knew what was going on, right?
1:30:50🔗
Caller
Like we were all, I was sleeping. Like I had a sleepover for my birthday and like almost like I had four friends over and five counting her and I was sleeping. She was awake with my friend and he called her out there so that we could get to sleep, even though we were all asleep. And it was like three in the morning and he took her out there. And my friend, she woke me up and told me that my dad called her out. And so I went out there and I saw it. And then my cousin told me after.
1:31:26🔗
Caller
Yeah, they got really mad. And my dad apologized, but he only apologized to my uncle.
1:31:37🔗
Drew
You know what? There is no apology for this. There is no apology for this. There is only consequence.
1:31:44🔗
Adam
Well, I mean, like, hey, come on, can't we? I know I felt your kid up. But can't we let bygones be bygones? Couldn't you? They wouldn't accept that, Drew?
1:32:06🔗
Drew
And don't screw up your own life, because your dad's an asshole, OK? It's not your fault he's an asshole. I'm sorry that you have that day.
1:32:20🔗
Drew
Isn't it interesting how people will defend their inner concept of the parent to their own destruction? You know, I'm bad, that's why dad behaves this way, is sort of what they end up feeling. And they'll defend that idealized parent as opposed to accepting just how hideous and despicable these people are that happen to be their parents.
1:32:45🔗
Adam
And Anne commented on my trying to pinch a loaf look that I'm giving. I am just, you know, I'm picturing the four kids, four, he's got four of his own. Could you imagine having your brother feel up your son or daughter? I mean, how?
1:33:07🔗
Adam
How, you know, how foreign is that? How, how just bizarre is that? You know, there's certain crimes, I understand, like insurance fraud. I even understand, you know, I understand people killing their husbands or wives because they're gonna get 200 grand from Mutual of Omaha. I don't condone it unless a guy had it coming. But I understand what the motivation is. There's something in it for them, right? Do you know what I'm saying? What the hell is in it for you? Were you getting a hand up the panties of your, you know, 12 year old niece? Do you know what I'm saying? Oh, I'm disgusted with all of you. You hear me?
1:33:47🔗
Adam
We are? And Mary's been on hold for 87 minutes though. Mary, Mary's 19 is dating a 31 year old guy. Will this continue to be a pattern for her? Well, unless you break the pattern, Mary.
1:34:06🔗
Caller
This guy, I mean, he's like a really great guy. I mean, it's not, I mean, he doesn't even want to have like a sexual relationship.
1:34:12🔗
Adam
That's even more flawed. I know that sounds retarded, but that's really flawed. Because the only reason you should be dating a 19 year old is to get laid when you're 31. There's some engineer, Mike's not in his head like one of those dogs in the back of the car. It's true. You're dating a 19 year old at 31 and you're not trying to get in her pants.
1:34:33🔗
Drew
Maybe you feel so guilty about the fact that that's what he's actually doing, that he's compensating for it by not doing it.
1:34:55🔗
This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily those of the staff or management or producers or directors or the advertising or anyone. They might be Bob's.
1:35:04🔗
I'm Bob and they're mine.
1:35:06🔗
The producer of Loveline is Ann Wilkins. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.
1:35:12🔗
We now turn you to your highly tested, regularly scheduled programming.
1:35:16🔗
Bye.