Monday, July 13, 1998

0:13🔗 Voiceover What did that guy say? I don't know, that music was ripping, though.

0:28🔗 Drew A half an inch.

0:30🔗 Adam Listen, you bang away with that Marks-a-Lot marker all night long like you're in some sort of a tribe or something. So please, let's start this early. Alyson's from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Alyson plays Buffy's best friend Willa. We've had Alyson on the show, when was it, a year ago, Anne was saying?

0:52🔗 Alyson Hannigan Approximately.

0:53🔗 Adam And how'd that go?

0:55🔗 Alyson Hannigan It was fun.

0:56🔗 Adam Oh, it was good?

0:56🔗 Alyson Hannigan I giggled a lot though. I listened to the tape and it was just a morrow.

0:59🔗 Adam Oh yeah, never listened to the tape.

1:01🔗 Yeah.

1:03🔗 Adam You know.

1:03🔗 Alyson Hannigan I'm going to giggle all night.

1:06🔗 Adam In radio, they do these things called air checks, which is you do a air shift and then you take the cassette from whatever that two or three hour shift was and then you go into the program director's office. And all the program directors have a nice spanking new cassette deck in their office. And then they put it in and you painfully go over each detail of the show, which is you do the first like 30 seconds and then they go, then they stop the tape and they critique the 30 and then they let it run like maybe through the first call and then they stop. And you realize how bad you are. And that's why I never do that.

1:44🔗 Alyson Hannigan I understand.

1:45🔗 Adam And I know that this could be a better show. I could be a better host and Drew could be a better host as well. If we ever sat down and listen to those things. But it is so goddamn painful that I won't subject myself or my ego to it.

2:00🔗 Drew And the program director is delighted about that.

2:03🔗 Adam Thankfully, he doesn't care that much. All right. So let's talk about that, Alyson. First off, as you know, Buffy the Vampire Slayer doing real well. Probably the most, one of the most successful shows WB currently has going.

2:17🔗 Alyson Hannigan That was Dawson's Creek.

2:19🔗 Adam Oh, yeah. But this is, this was around before Dawson's Creek and it'll be around after Dawson's Creek.

2:25🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah.

2:25🔗 Adam And what's Buffy going on? The third season?

2:28🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yes.

2:29🔗 Adam And have you been on since the word go over there?

2:34🔗 Alyson Hannigan Not since the word go, but since the show was picked up. The pilot presentation, I wasn't actually in it. Right. There was another one.

2:41🔗 Adam All right. Well, let the amateurs get it on the air and then you come in and mop up.

2:45🔗 Alyson Hannigan Exactly.

2:46🔗 Adam And also Dead Man on Campus, which is a movie that is going to be released.

2:54🔗 Alyson Hannigan Sometime.

2:55🔗 Adam But you just finished it, right?

2:56🔗 Alyson Hannigan No, it's been done for about a year. Or the actual filming was looking at this bio.

3:03🔗 Adam And I think the bio was saying that it was going to be released at the end of this month.

3:07🔗 Alyson Hannigan That's what I heard like about a month ago. And then I heard on the Internet that it's going to be released in August.

3:15🔗 Drew Yeah.

3:16🔗 Adam Yeah, we've been there. So tell tell the premise of that. And I want to see if this sounds familiar to Drew, because I think we had this conversation with other people from Dead Man on Campus.

3:26🔗 Drew Right. It sounds familiar already. Just the name.

3:28🔗 Adam All right. Well, tell Drew the scenario.

3:31🔗 Alyson Hannigan OK. Well, it starts Mark Paul Gossler. I can't really pronounce that last name. And Tom Everett Scott. And it's basically about these two roommates in college. And they sort of let their studies fall. And find a loophole in the college rule book saying that if their roommate died during the semester, then they get straight A's in their classes. So they try to find suicidal kids on campus and transfer them into their room and not...

4:02🔗 Drew Let them go.

4:03🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, they don't discourage them from doing whatever.

4:05🔗 Drew You know what? It was Mark Paul before the thing was filmed.

4:10🔗 Adam Right.

4:10🔗 Drew He was on talking about what he was going to do.

4:12🔗 Adam Right. And I said that sounds like a ridiculous premise.

4:16🔗 Drew No, no, I thought you said it was kind of funny.

4:18🔗 Alyson Hannigan I did?

4:18🔗 Adam I went with it?

4:18🔗 Drew You went with it, yeah.

4:19🔗 Adam What was I thinking?

4:20🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, everyone always says that.

4:21🔗 Drew About Jill Gallagher.

4:22🔗 Adam Is that is that true?

4:24🔗 Drew Is that what true?

4:25🔗 Adam You went to college?

4:26🔗 Drew Is what true?

4:27🔗 Alyson Hannigan The loophole?

4:27🔗 Adam The premise, you idiot?

4:28🔗 Drew Of course, everyone knows that.

4:30🔗 Adam Oh, shut up. It is not.

4:32🔗 Oh, for crying out loud.

4:33🔗 Adam Is it? No. OK. Well, what the hell do I know? I went to junior college off and on for 11 years.

4:39🔗 Drew Wow. It's just certainly that fact is shining through right now.

4:43🔗 Adam And by the way, I'm sorry if I'm blowing. You know, I ate a whole bunch of raw garlic tonight, so I may be blowing that around the studio.

4:49🔗 Drew I'm not aware of it yet.

4:50🔗 Adam No.

4:50🔗 Alyson Hannigan I have some mints if you would like.

4:52🔗 Adam Do you have any?

4:52🔗 Drew Alyson obviously is aware of it.

4:54🔗 Adam Yeah, go grab them. Yeah, I'll take those.

4:56🔗 Alyson Hannigan My friend has them.

4:57🔗 Adam Oh, they're outside the studio?

4:58🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah.

4:59🔗 Adam That's all right. We don't need to care.

5:00🔗 Alyson Hannigan They're very strong.

5:01🔗 Drew You normally have a certain...

5:02🔗 Adam Je ne sais quoi?

5:03🔗 Drew A certain bouquet.

5:04🔗 Adam Thank you. All right. All right. So Buffy's going great. And are you on hiatus now?

5:13🔗 Alyson Hannigan Until next week, yes.

5:15🔗 Adam And does everyone sort of make their own schedule now? I mean, all the different networks. Didn't it used to be that, you know, people were all off at the same time and then went back to work at the same time?

5:27🔗 Drew The hiatus was in the summer.

5:29🔗 Alyson Hannigan I think it just it's still the same. I think film shows start earlier than sitcoms.

5:35🔗 Adam Ah, I see. Filmed like when you do... Thank you.

5:39🔗 Alyson Hannigan They're very good.

5:40🔗 Adam When you do... All right, settle, baby. When you do Buffy, you have to film that all week.

5:45🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yes, five days a week.

5:47🔗 Adam Like you're doing a little movie. As opposed to rehearsal week and do it once in front of a live audience.

5:53🔗 Alyson Hannigan Right.

5:55🔗 Adam Which they then sweeten up dramatically.

5:57🔗 Alyson Hannigan Our hours are much longer on film.

6:00🔗 Adam What is a normal schedule for you?

6:02🔗 Alyson Hannigan It would be five days a week, pretty much 15 hour days.

6:07🔗 Drew For you?

6:09🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, I mean, I get occasional days off, but like Sarah Geller, who is Buffy, she pretty much doesn't. So actually, that's not true. They pretty much stopped us at 14 hours last season. So once we hit 14 hours.

6:24🔗 Drew Are you working the entire 14 hours?

6:26🔗 Alyson Hannigan Oh, no, no, no.

6:27🔗 Drew How much are you working?

6:28🔗 Adam They're doing Coke in the trailer playing Ms. Pac-Man. Are you kidding me?

6:32🔗 Alyson Hannigan No, but we do at least 10 pages a day, as opposed to a film that does a page or two.

6:40🔗 Adam Oh, really?

6:41🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah.

6:41🔗 Adam So it must be nice to do a film.

6:44🔗 Alyson Hannigan I don't know. I feel like hurry up, you know, because I'm so used to getting so much more complex.

6:49🔗 Adam You know, that's how Drew and I are, even from TV to TV, because when we do Loveline, we do four episodes sometimes, four hour long episodes in a long afternoon. I mean, literally to do four one hour episodes, it takes us about six and a half hours. And that's with lunch and the hookers and everything. And we went and did this sitcom once, although we killed the sitcom. If you ever want to get out of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, you invite us on. We will kill the show. What shows did we kill? We killed Vibe.

7:23🔗 Drew Vibe?

7:24🔗 Adam Oh no, wait a minute. No, we killed Keenan.

7:26🔗 Drew Well Vibe, we were just, we were asked to come on the night it got canceled.

7:29🔗 Adam We put the nail, we put the symbolic nail in Vibe, but we got rid of Keenan by doing four appearances on that show. Vibe, we did Vibe, and then we're gonna do it, but it was over. And then All Fired Up?

7:43🔗 Drew Fired Up.

7:43🔗 Adam No, is it called Fired Up?

7:44🔗 Drew Fired Up.

7:45🔗 Adam Okay, I always want to say Just Shoot Me, but that's actually doing okay. Fired Up was a sitcom that we did that our episode never aired. Yeah, so we put that one away too.

7:56🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well please don't go in the Rosie O'Donnell show.

7:59🔗 Adam No, you enjoy her?

8:00🔗 Alyson Hannigan I love her.

8:01🔗 Adam We'll never go on. The Catch 22 is we'll never go on shows that are doing well.

8:05🔗 Alyson Hannigan Oh, okay.

8:05🔗 Adam Do you see?

8:06🔗 Alyson Hannigan Okay.

8:07🔗 Adam We have to get to them early before they have any success or at the end when they're petering out. Okay. Yeah, the magic people should be calling soon and mention. Oh, yes. Sure. They're probably phoning right now. Probably got the answering machine. All right, Sarah.

8:25🔗 Sarah.

8:26🔗 Hello.

8:27🔗 Adam Hey, you're 18.

8:29🔗 Caller Hi, Adam.

8:29🔗 Alyson Hannigan Hi, Dr. Drew. Hey, there.

8:30🔗 Adam Say hi to Alyson too.

8:32🔗 Alyson Hannigan Hi, Alyson.

8:33🔗 Caller Hi.

8:34🔗 Alyson Hannigan I have a problem. A couple months ago, there was a party over my brother's, and I don't spend that much time with my brother. So I was looking forward to this, and he lives about 20 minutes away. So I hardly see him.

8:46🔗 Drew So me and a couple of months ago-

8:48🔗 Alyson Hannigan Excuse me.

8:48🔗 Drew How old is he?

8:50🔗 Alyson Hannigan He's 28. So we didn't really spend much time together as we were growing up. So-

8:58🔗 Drew Why is that?

8:59🔗 Adam He's 10 years older.

9:00🔗 Drew Come on, man.

9:01🔗 Alyson Hannigan Excuse me.

9:02🔗 Drew Why?

9:03🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, I don't know. Just we were distant.

9:07🔗 Drew You and he were distant. You were living in the same household, but you just-

9:10🔗 Alyson Hannigan No, no. We lived in separate households.

9:12🔗 Drew Why?

9:14🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, we have different mothers, and as we were growing up, our father was in jail for most of my life.

9:22🔗 Drew So he wasn't part of your life at all, your brother, your half brother.

9:25🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah, half brother.

9:26🔗 Drew Half brother who you never knew.

9:28🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah, pretty much. I mean, I used to spend, I used to spend some time with him, but not really.

9:32🔗 Drew All right.

9:33🔗 Adam Kind of funny how our callers count your questions.

9:36🔗 Drew They leave all that out. I knew there was-

9:37🔗 Adam We grew up, we were real tight growing up. Yeah.

9:41🔗 Drew We lived in different states with different parents.

9:44🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah.

9:44🔗 Adam Dad was in jail, and they had different moms.

9:48🔗 Drew Okay, so what's the deal?

9:49🔗 Alyson Hannigan Okay. Well, so I went down to his house, because he was having a party, so we were both kind of drunk. Well, I was really drunk, which he wasn't. And he asked me to come back to his room, so he could talk to me. And so I went back there, and he said that he needed to tell me something. And I was like, okay, go ahead. And he was like, no, no. I was like, go ahead, and you can tell me anything. And he said, well, I've been in love with you for a while.

10:16🔗 Adam That's healthy. I'm going to drop that bomb on my sister when she gets in from Germany in a couple months.

10:24🔗 Alyson Hannigan But I don't know. I've been hanging out with him for about four years, a lot. So he told me that, and I didn't know what to say.

10:36🔗 Drew Toodaloo. I mean, don't hang out with him anymore.

10:42🔗 Adam Do you like him, Sarah?

10:44🔗 Drew No. What happened to him growing up? Did dad do something to him?

10:50🔗 No.

10:50🔗 Drew Criminal dad?

10:52🔗 Thanks.

10:53🔗 Drew Well?

10:54🔗 Adam All right. Let's take some guesses as to why dad's in prison. Mail fraud.

10:59🔗 Yeah.

11:01🔗 Adam Tax evasion. Tax evasion, yeah.

11:03🔗 Drew Ponzi scheme.

11:04🔗 Adam Yeah. Some sort of, something involving the Rico Act, perhaps? Some sort of racketeering scheme?

11:11🔗 Alyson Hannigan Kind of involves him and his girlfriend robbed a bank.

11:15🔗 Adam Oh, we're all off. See, we want white collar. That was our problem.

11:20🔗 Alyson Hannigan But I bet he didn't claim it on his taxes.

11:22🔗 Drew But the temerity that I might have insinuated that he could have done something heinous to the son. Imagine my, am I?

11:30🔗 Adam So here he is out trying to provide for the family, Drew. All right. How long is he in prison for?

11:36🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, he got out a couple of years ago, but he was in there for nine years. So pretty much all my life.

11:42🔗 Adam Did he rob a lot of banks?

11:43🔗 Caller No.

11:44🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, it was just, no, it was just one.

11:47🔗 Caller I mean.

11:48🔗 Adam Wow. That's dumb.

11:49🔗 Alyson Hannigan The story that I know is that he didn't know about it, which he was, okay, he was with his girlfriend and she supposedly told him that she was going in to get some money out and he supposedly didn't know about it until she come out and got busted.

12:05🔗 Adam All right.

12:05🔗 Drew Right. Sure.

12:07🔗 Adam There's a lot of that. Actually, there was this Tom Selleck movie I saw where he was framed in Jocely.

12:12🔗 Drew Oh, everyone in jail has been framed. Right.

12:14🔗 Adam All right, Sarah, your dad's a criminal. Well, your brother's the son of a criminal. And that's why he's kind of where he's at. But if I if I were you, I would stay as far away from that guy's house as possible.

12:26🔗 Drew Yeah, it's not. Yeah.

12:28🔗 Adam Yeah.

12:29🔗 Drew Yeah.

12:29🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah. And another thing is, is like the thing that bothers me is he asked me, would I be mad if he tried something on me then?

12:37🔗 Drew The answer was what's what was your answer?

12:39🔗 Alyson Hannigan I said, yeah, I'd be mad at you. And then I was I don't know if I was sick off the alcohol, but I went and threw up.

12:45🔗 Adam That's good.

12:46🔗 Drew That's a nice way to punctuate that discussion. Yeah.

12:50🔗 Adam Okay. Sarah?

12:51🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah.

12:52🔗 Adam You're amazingly healthy.

12:54🔗 Alyson Hannigan That's what my mom said. I told her about it.

12:56🔗 Adam Okay.

12:56🔗 Drew But stay away. Don't be dragged back into this.

12:58🔗 Adam Oh, that's lovely, isn't it? God knows what else this guy's up to, by the way, if he can just go ahead and confront his sister sexually. Oh, let's say yes.

13:11🔗 Drew How dare I suggest that those dads fall?

13:14🔗 Adam Oh, she didn't get that defensive.

13:16🔗 Drew But isn't it interesting how people want to defend their parents no matter how heinous they might be or have been?

13:20🔗 Adam Well, you can't blame the guys. Old lady wanted to use the versatile. The next thing you know, the cops are running out of the place. You're sitting in the car. You're probably driving a minivan, and he was probably fixing his ascot or something.

13:33🔗 Drew Or what people will do.

13:34🔗 Adam You know, the little mirror that's in the visor.

13:36🔗 Drew That lights up when you open the door.

13:37🔗 Adam Yeah, and she come running out before you know it, he's an accomplice.

13:41🔗 Drew Look, or people will say to themselves or to others, I was bad, I deserved that, that's why my dad treated me that way.

13:48🔗 Adam Listen to Mostly Mozart on KCRW.

13:52🔗 Drew Robert, 25, what's going on?

13:55🔗 Caller Hey, how you doing?

13:56🔗 I was wondering, I'm trying to find out, I heard from a friend that you can get oral herpes just by kissing someone.

14:02🔗 Drew Sure.

14:03🔗 Yes, you can.

14:04🔗 Drew Oh, sure.

14:05🔗 That sucks.

14:07🔗 Well, how easily can you get it and what other sort of...

14:11🔗 Drew If somebody has an active lesion, very easy. I mean, it's a very contagious virus.

14:16🔗 No kidding. Okay, so if you're kissing someone who has an active lesion, you can get herpes.

14:21🔗 Drew Easily.

14:22🔗 Adam Well, it's not really something you have to write down though, Robert. If you see an active lesion on somebody, just go ahead and keep that tongue away.

14:29🔗 Drew But by the way, I mean, oral herpes is exceedingly common. It's again, you're responding to some notion that the herpes being some devastating condition. We're talking about a cold sore, a skin rash, okay?

14:43🔗 Adam Is this your girlfriend?

14:44🔗 It's like a fifth of the population now.

14:46🔗 Drew That's right. That's right. Okay.

14:48🔗 No kidding. Can I ask you another question?

14:50🔗 Drew Yeah.

14:51🔗 I was just wondering, are you a psychiatrist?

14:53🔗 Drew No, I'm an internist, but I've been working. I've been running a department of medicine and addiction medicine in a psychiatric hospital for 10 years.

15:00🔗 Oh, so you're an internist.

15:02🔗 Adam But he's also the love doctor.

15:03🔗 Drew He's also the love doctor.

15:05🔗 Adam That's the title he likes the most.

15:07🔗 And do you do psychotherapy?

15:08🔗 Drew No.

15:09🔗 No, no psychotherapy. Okay.

15:10🔗 Adam No, he's a mess. This is true. Believe me, he'd pay you if you sat down in a room with him for 50 minutes. Oh, yes.

15:18🔗 Well, we should set up a time then.

15:21🔗 Adam Are you gay, Robert?

15:24🔗 That's an interesting question.

15:25🔗 Adam No, I'm not. A little bit, though? No. Really? All right. Just got that vibe. Okay. All righty. All right, Robert. Enjoy the oral sex.

15:36🔗 Drew You're a little tough on me tonight, here.

15:37🔗 Adam Oh, me?

15:38🔗 Drew Yeah. Oh, God. We're gonna, oh, it's good to, you know, we're gonna spend a lot of time together the next few minutes.

15:43🔗 Adam Yeah, I was just explaining that to somebody.

15:45🔗 Drew It is gonna be just, oh, the humanity.

15:47🔗 Adam The only thing that keeps Drew and I away from each other's jugular is that we don't see each other on our current schedule called Fridays and Saturdays. Now, we brushed across each other on Saturday because of this MTV to-do, and we're already on each other just a little more because of that sort of booster shot we gave each other for just socially, just for, you know, 15 minutes on a Saturday. But when the schedule gets into full swing, meaning some college tours or the TV show, and it turns into seven days a week and then traveling together, that's when the fights start in the airport. I'm all drugged up on tranquilizers and Bloody Marys.

16:29🔗 Drew We had a couple, you know, an old couple just screaming about what the geography is we're about to go over and what the distances are.

16:35🔗 Adam Almost got a fistfight over what was farther to Denver, LAX, or the San Francisco airport.

16:41🔗 Drew At the booth, yeah. Screaming at each other.

16:43🔗 Adam You know why...

16:44🔗 Drew Demanding that we see a map.

16:45🔗 Adam Let me explain why Drew pisses you off. You know when you're really tired and you're really strung out and you only got a couple hours sleep and you couldn't be in a worse mood and then you got to hang around somebody who's chipper and upbeat, wants to work out. Like he's saying, like you're saying, I think I'm just going to sleep in the car and that way I can get an extra eight minutes in. I'm not going to go check into the hotel because if I go check in, I'm only going to get 45 minutes sleep. But if I just sleep and stay in the car and you guys just come down and I change on the way to the gig, I can sleep for like 56 minutes. And Drew goes, I hope they have a place to work out. I'm going to kill you, man. You're lucky I'm so tired and lethargic. I would reach over and punch you. Then I start breaking wind and that's when the fun really begins. Katie.

17:37🔗 Hello.

17:37🔗 Adam You're 17.

17:38🔗 Caller Yes.

17:39🔗 Adam What's going on?

17:41🔗 Caller Well, lately I've been, well, I've been with my boyfriend for almost two years and ever since we started going out, I've been getting like hints that he's cheating on me.

17:51🔗 Drew How old is your boyfriend?

17:53🔗 Caller He's 17 also. And people keep telling me, oh, he's doing things behind my back or whatever. And I have so many like clues that it's true, but I just I won't break up with him.

18:06🔗 Drew You choose to ignore them?

18:08🔗 Caller Yeah.

18:09🔗 Drew Why?

18:09🔗 Caller I don't know.

18:10🔗 Adam What kind of clues?

18:12🔗 Caller Well, I've had people that have seen him with other girls. I've been over there when other girls have called. I've had other girls tell me that he's like talking to their friend.

18:22🔗 Drew Is he your first boyfriend?

18:23🔗 Caller No.

18:24🔗 Drew Are you sleeping with him?

18:25🔗 Caller Yes.

18:26🔗 Drew You laugh when you said no. Have you had lots of boyfriends?

18:29🔗 Caller Well, not really.

18:30🔗 Drew Is this one more meaningful in some way?

18:33🔗 Caller Yeah, but I don't know. I feel like I want to break up with him, but then...

18:39🔗 Drew Is this the only one that you've been in where you sort of couldn't have it? You know, you were the pursuer?

18:44🔗 Yeah.

18:47🔗 Adam Say that again.

18:49🔗 Drew She's the pursuer in this one. She's the one that has... the other guys have come to her and she's sort of allowed the relationship to happen. In this one, she wants that guy.

18:57🔗 Alyson Hannigan She likes him more than he likes him.

18:59🔗 Drew Basically, that's it.

19:01🔗 Caller But I know it, and we've broken up before, and he's come back to me.

19:05🔗 Drew So this is sort of the abandonment issues. What's that all about? Somebody left you at some time in your life?

19:11🔗 Caller My dad.

19:12🔗 Drew What happened?

19:14🔗 Caller I don't really know. When I was younger, I was probably about two when my parents split up.

19:18🔗 Drew You haven't seen him since then? Your dad?

19:21🔗 Caller Sometimes on holidays.

19:22🔗 Drew So you understand how when somebody fills that role for you, it's so hard for you to let that person go because it's unearthing all those same feelings of abandonment that you've been dealing with your whole life?

19:34🔗 Caller Yeah.

19:34🔗 Adam Why did your dad and your mom break up?

19:37🔗 Caller I don't know.

19:38🔗 Caller Nobody really talks to me about it.

19:41🔗 Caller It's kind of like kept for me, I guess.

19:44🔗 Drew Not that it's her business really, you know. They broke up just two.

19:47🔗 Adam I just mean, I had the suspicion that dad may have been cheating on mom or something like that.

19:52🔗 Caller Well, he's in jail right now and I think I had to do...

19:55🔗 Adam Your girlfriend was going to the ATM.

19:57🔗 Drew The deal is, it doesn't matter.

19:58🔗 Adam What's he doing in jail?

19:59🔗 Drew Dad's emotionally unavailable, really unavailable.

20:02🔗 Caller And when I was younger, he would call on my birthday or Christmas and he promised that he'd show up and he never did.

20:07🔗 Drew Yeah, see, that's what this guy is. That's exactly what this is.

20:10🔗 Adam That's sort of more of the parole board's fault than his.

20:13🔗 Drew This is what the new guy is. This is what this guy represents. And that's why you can't let go. You let go and boom, you were faced with all those same old feelings.

20:21🔗 Adam What's he in prison for?

20:23🔗 Caller Setting his girlfriend's house on fire, I think.

20:26🔗 Drew Nothing much.

20:27🔗 Adam It's not like she was in it, what?

20:29🔗 Caller No, I don't know. I get like grandma was in pieces from different family members and the newspaper.

20:37🔗 Adam Okay.

20:37🔗 Drew It's just not important. I mean, all right.

20:40🔗 Caller Well, it's kind of.

20:41🔗 Adam Listen, Katie.

20:42🔗 Caller Well, now I have a question about my stepdad.

20:45🔗 Drew What's he do to you?

20:46🔗 Caller Well, when I was younger, I guess I was probably about six. I told my mom that I thought that we in school, they showed us a movie about like bad, good touch, bad touch or whatever. And I told my mom about the movie and told her that I thought that her boyfriend was doing bad touch or whatever. And she didn't believe me and she asked him. She brought him in the room, made us all three talk. He like denied it. And since I was so young, I guess I kind of, I believe that I was wrong and I didn't know what I was talking about. They both convinced me that...

21:16🔗 Drew Did it keep going on?

21:18🔗 Caller Not after that. And I kind of forgot about it until a couple years ago. And then I remembered and I said something to my mom about it again. And she thinks that...

21:29🔗 Drew You misinterpreted something.

21:30🔗 Caller Yeah.

21:32🔗 Drew It's kind of moot. I mean, it just adds to more of the trauma of the situation. I mean, you had enough health to step up and go, hey, mom, by the way, something's going on here. Mom, as we know well, having married a felon and then brought and stepped out into the house wasn't all...

21:48🔗 Adam But Drew, the chances of her getting two bad seeds are almost astronomical, aren't they?

21:53🔗 Drew Astronomically good.

21:54🔗 Adam Oh, yeah. So, all right, Katie.

21:57🔗 Caller Yeah.

21:58🔗 Adam If your mom had nuts, I'd kick her right in them.

22:02🔗 Caller Well, she says because I can't tell her exactly what happened because I don't know. She thinks that...

22:07🔗 Drew Katie?

22:08🔗 Caller It didn't happen.

22:08🔗 Adam All right.

22:09🔗 Drew Your mom is full of ass.

22:10🔗 Adam And either way, either way, your compass is kind of spinning around like when they do those Devil's Triangle reenactments on TV.

22:19🔗 Drew It doesn't really matter right now, does it?

22:21🔗 Adam Right.

22:21🔗 Drew I mean, I don't mean to be too disparaging of the pair.

22:24🔗 Adam I can't this guy.

22:26🔗 Drew The guy needs to go. But think of all the stuff that's going to bring out in her. I mean, probably the only way.

22:31🔗 Adam Katie, don't get pregnant. Have you been pregnant yet?

22:35🔗 Caller I don't think so.

22:36🔗 Drew Oh, that was not no.

22:39🔗 Really?

22:40🔗 Adam Well, you got pregnant once.

22:42🔗 Drew No, she may be pregnant now.

22:44🔗 Caller No, I don't know. I had a problem with my period one time. And I went to the school nurse and she thought that I was having a miscarriage. All right.

22:51🔗 Drew Okay. Okay.

22:52🔗 Adam Don't get pregnant.

22:53🔗 Caller Okay.

22:55🔗 Drew But, you know, if she can muster the resource, certainly her terminated relationship would turn around the dynamics of this situation in a way that she would have control over these feelings and wouldn't feel so victimized and abandoned by somebody else. She would be the one in control. She has the opportunity to do that. She can do it if she is able. And find somebody who is available and establish a relationship that is genuine and you'll have more strength to fight off this kind of nonsense.

23:20🔗 Adam I'm no theologian.

23:22🔗 Drew Indeed, you're not.

23:23🔗 Adam But I do know something about the Bible from watching a lot of late night TV. And I know there's locusts and I know there's, you know, I don't know, one leader that's supposed to take over. You know, there's the apocalypse, you know, that we're heading toward. This I know. I don't know if they mention the calls that we get on this show about every second kid and America's dad's in prison and, you know, stepdad's feeling them up and everyone's pregnant at 15. But Jesus, that's got to be in there, doesn't it? I mean, screw locusts, by the way. We could deal with those. Okay. Alyson, you all right?

24:03🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah, I think I have locusts behind my house.

24:06🔗 Adam Oh, okay. So that's it. That's the missing part of the puzzle. And we'll be back.

24:12🔗 Loveline's phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191. We'll be right back. W-E-B-N.

24:28🔗 Drew Loveline, only on W-E-B-N.

24:41🔗 Caller Hey, this is Tyra Banks, and you're listening to Love Line with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

24:46🔗 Adam Yes, you is. Alyson Hannigan is here from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

25:22🔗 Drew It was one of the lowest moments I can recall.

25:24🔗 Adam Yeah. I said, the guy, couldn't I just drop my pants and weep and save some face here instead of the dubba dubba dubba dubba? Listen, I want to put this out because I know the entertainment industry listens to the show on occasion, many of them driving home, not from work, but from bars at this time of night, and they tune in. And please come to me with all your lame ass ideas before you unleash them on an unforgiving public. Because Drew, as you know, I am like the emperor. I either give the thumbs up or the thumbs down. And when they told us to do this god-awful dubba dubba dubba dubba WB campaign, it was two and a half years ago.

26:09🔗 Drew It was three years some odd years ago.

26:10🔗 Adam Whatever it was, it was before the dubba dubba dubba WB thing got off the ground. And I said to Drew, this is the lamest idea I've ever heard in my life.

26:19🔗 Drew We thought there was a mistake, and we were like, it's right, you just did a screw up.

26:23🔗 Adam It's funny, they take it serious. I'm like, hey, watch Loveline on the dubba dubba dubba dubba WB. Adam, you're short of dubba.

26:33🔗 Drew Yeah, three more dubbas, that's it. Go, do it again.

26:35🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, if you call WB, they have to answer the phone. Dubba dubba dubba WB or something.

26:40🔗 Adam That's got to hurt. That's got to smart. So listen, all you moronic TV people, come to me at no cost. I will sit down and tell you how bad your ideas are.

26:49🔗 Alyson Hannigan But they already know now. Now they've gone.

26:52🔗 Adam I know, but believe me, there'll be others. Believe me, there'll be others.

26:56🔗 Alyson Hannigan Okay, well, the WB is clear now.

26:57🔗 Adam And as a matter of fact, the guy, the moron who came up with the dubba dubba dubba thing, don't worry, he hasn't been fired. They're still looking to him for ideas. I know how TV works.

27:07🔗 Drew Let me say something in defense of WB. I did a presentation, a panel on sort of young people's issues. And the WB was one that really came to the table and was interested in learning and trying to create programs.

27:20🔗 Adam Well, they're desperate. They have such a horrible campaign. They need new talent.

27:23🔗 Alyson Hannigan They have a great campaign now.

27:25🔗 Drew I thought they were really genuine in their desire to do something real. That was, that showed something.

27:31🔗 Alyson Hannigan They've changed it. Adam, I'll have somebody send it to you.

27:33🔗 Adam Don't want to hear it. Not?

27:35🔗 Alyson Hannigan It's good. It's a lot of pretty women.

27:36🔗 Adam Okay. I'll put it on video.

27:38🔗 Alyson Hannigan Okay.

27:39🔗 Adam And a beta. I'm not buying into this whole VHSBS. I'm still sticking with beta. Not that there's anything wrong with the network. I'm just saying the campaign has gone awful. And let me explain the difference between TV and other industries. When I worked construction for many years, if we had a guy who showed up drunk and hung drywall sideways so it made an argyle pattern on the wall instead of doing it like he should have done it, and the studs were 18 and a half inch on center instead of 16 and a half inch on center, we'd fire his ass. In TV you get a promotion.

28:15🔗 Alyson Hannigan He built my house though.

28:16🔗 Adam Really?

28:17🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yes.

28:17🔗 Adam But you're pissed at him, right?

28:19🔗 Alyson Hannigan Sure, if I could find him, yeah.

28:21🔗 Adam He won't build your next house, will he?

28:23🔗 Alyson Hannigan No.

28:23🔗 Adam In TV you get a raise. That's the beauty of TV. Oh my God. All right.

28:30🔗 Caller Sorry.

28:31🔗 Adam Really?

28:32🔗 Alyson Hannigan Do you want to come do construction on my house?

28:34🔗 Adam What's the matter with your house?

28:35🔗 Alyson Hannigan There's not one even wall.

28:37🔗 Adam Everything is shoddy construction.

28:39🔗 It's strange.

28:40🔗 Adam Really?

28:40🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah. It was built in the 60s and they were probably doing way too many drugs.

28:45🔗 Adam Yeah. That hole, they don't build them how they used to. I got a house from 1923. They were real assholes back then.

28:50🔗 Drew My wife made me watch three seconds tonight of a newscast from the 60s where they're interviewing people that were doing drugs from the time which drugs were starting to really hit the scene. It's no wonder that people rejected the information that was available the way they presented it just like, This person dropped acid 25 times. Here are his brain waves on acid. And it talked with this very paternalistic, authoritarian tone.

29:14🔗 Adam It all sounded like dragnet, right?

29:16🔗 Drew Yeah, absolutely. And of course people dismissed that. And the questions they asked the poor people who were suffering brain injury from was just pathetic. It went to journalists running amok again.

29:27🔗 Adam Yeah. Well, that's why you tune out the man. What is it?

29:31🔗 Drew Jaybird.

29:34🔗 Alyson Hannigan I wanted to talk to Alyson and say how much I appreciate your show. And my friends and I all have to see it. And it's wonderful. I wanted to know how your health is because I know you're having some trouble.

29:49🔗 Drew What?

29:50🔗 Alyson Hannigan I was?

29:50🔗 Drew On the show or in real life?

29:52🔗 Alyson Hannigan No. Didn't you have some sort of surgery or something?

29:55🔗 Alyson Hannigan I had my tonsils out last year.

29:58🔗 Alyson Hannigan So you're definitely better.

30:00🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yes.

30:00🔗 Alyson Hannigan For some reason that didn't hit the scene until more recently, I guess.

30:05🔗 Drew That's tough for your age, boy.

30:07🔗 Alyson Hannigan I know.

30:09🔗 Adam Why, that's bad? You should wait till you're in your later thirties.

30:13🔗 Alyson Hannigan They were awful. The doctor saved them.

30:16🔗 Drew They were so huge.

30:17🔗 Alyson Hannigan He had never seen them.

30:21🔗 Drew Even if it had not been that case, just having your tonsils out as an adult is a miserable experience.

30:26🔗 Adam I got news for you. That wasn't your tonsils. They pulled that out of some drifter about 40 years ago, and they show them every time someone gets their tonsils out.

30:33🔗 Alyson Hannigan Really? I didn't see that.

30:35🔗 Adam I saw the same.

30:35🔗 Drew Jaybird, what's going on?

30:37🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, that was pretty much it, and I wanted to voice my appreciation for the writers of Buffy.

30:43🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yes, we have a wonderful writer.

30:44🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yes, because I think it's definitely the best young adult show out there. I have many friends who are in their 20s and 30s that love to watch the show every time.

30:53🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, thank you.

30:54🔗 Alyson Hannigan No problem.

30:55🔗 Adam Thanks, Jaybird.

30:56🔗 Alyson Hannigan No problem.

30:56🔗 Alyson Hannigan Thanks for your call.

30:58🔗 Adam That was nice. Alyson, this is Alyson. Alyson?

31:02🔗 Hi.

31:02🔗 Adam You're 18.

31:03🔗 Caller Yes, I just want to say I listen to your show every night and I love you guys.

31:08🔗 Adam Thanks, I was just reading some hate mail.

31:10🔗 Drew Really?

31:10🔗 Adam Yeah.

31:11🔗 Drew Oh yeah, here we are.

31:11🔗 Adam Asians are pissed off about me talking about the Asian hookers, the junior college students and you know the junior college students are pissed when they compose a letter that's a page long because that took them four days, Drew.

31:25🔗 Drew But you get the same criticism on the same issue about junior colleges is that a lot of people excel after going there when they don't have the resources financially to go to university.

31:35🔗 Adam Only the Asians, ironically. I want to work the two letters. I'm going to work them into one hate letter.

31:42🔗 Drew Oh, look at this one, hoo hoo.

31:47🔗 Adam All right. You know what pisses me off about people? They get pissed at me. That's really the one thing that bugs me about people. But you know, you can't say anything good about people, you can't say anything bad about people. You know, we had the guys in, I was saying how Asian families put a, they value an education more than the Anglo types. Am I right, Drew? Wouldn't you say that's a fair stereotype?

32:09🔗 Drew At this point in history, there are people from Asian countries who are putting a lot in, as immigrants have throughout history in this country, a lot of emphasis on their kids' opportunity to go forward.

32:19🔗 Adam Right. But there's also Asian hookers, isn't there? You're saying they don't exist? Okay. Alyson?

32:26🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yes.

32:27🔗 Adam I mean, Alyson with the two L's?

32:31🔗 Alyson Hannigan That's you.

32:31🔗 Adam What's going on?

32:33🔗 Caller Okay. The other night, I came home from work and I just moved out of house three months ago to college. I've never met these girls before and we've been living together for about three months. The other night, I came home from work and they was just going at it on the couch. I mean, I couldn't believe it.

32:55🔗 Drew These are two women?

32:56🔗 Caller Two women, yes.

32:57🔗 Drew And did you know they were involved before?

32:59🔗 Caller Absolutely not. I would never have moved in.

33:01🔗 Drew And do they know that you saw them?

33:02🔗 Caller No. I just went straight to my room.

33:05🔗 Drew And they didn't notice you?

33:06🔗 Caller No. Because my room is in the basement.

33:08🔗 Drew I see.

33:09🔗 Caller And my mom is an evangelist and my dad is a lawyer. So, gay, lesbian never came up in our house. And I don't know how to live. I don't know how to tell them exactly, you know, that I know because I really don't want to move out.

33:25🔗 Adam Do you have to move out just because your mom's an evangelist?

33:31🔗 Caller Yes.

33:32🔗 Adam Because your dad's Jewish.

33:33🔗 Caller No, my dad's not Jewish. He's a lawyer.

33:36🔗 Adam He's a lawyer. All right, write those letters.

33:42🔗 Caller And it just really, it kind of made me mad because when I first moved in, they never said anything to me or anything. And I don't want to move like all the way.

33:53🔗 Drew Were they your friends?

33:54🔗 Adam Or are they your friends? She never knew them before.

33:57🔗 Drew When did you move in? I'm sorry, I missed that too.

33:59🔗 Caller I moved in about three months ago.

34:01🔗 Drew Three months. Have they become your friends?

34:03🔗 Caller I transferred college. Yes.

34:04🔗 Drew All right, so these are your friends.

34:05🔗 Adam So they're lesbians.

34:06🔗 Drew Big deal. And they happen to be lesbians.

34:08🔗 Caller Yeah, but it's just totally different now. Why? Because we're on the same swim team and everything. And now when they touch me or I just get the wrong idea and it just freaks me out.

34:18🔗 Drew Why don't you make it clear to them that you're not gay and you're not going to be gay and that you appreciate it if they keep their relationship behind the closed door of their room and that there be specific boundaries and rules in the household like you would if there were a heterosexual couple living there.

34:33🔗 Caller They were there before me. I mean, they're the ones.

34:35🔗 Drew Well, but you're there now and you have an opportunity to be a member of the household and to let your wishes be known. And not, you know, these are your friends.

34:44🔗 Adam So you just opened the front door and walked right in and they didn't flinch?

34:47🔗 Caller Well, see, the computer room is on the left and the living room is on the right. They didn't see it.

34:52🔗 Adam Man, the Inigo girls cranked up so loud they couldn't hear anything.

34:56🔗 Caller I just couldn't believe it. I mean, they had their clothes off and everything.

34:59🔗 Adam Oh, my God. Well, that's one thing that involves in the satanic ritual of lesbianism, but it's another thing to do it without your clothes on.

35:08🔗 Caller Okay, well, I have a boyfriend and I told him about it.

35:11🔗 Drew And?

35:11🔗 Caller And we've been going out for five years.

35:13🔗 Drew Yeah.

35:13🔗 Caller And he is like all for, I mean, he like comes over all the time.

35:18🔗 Drew Oh, God. That's the thing you should be outraged about. Forgot to cry out loud. Your boyfriend's trying to, I mean, it's so pathetic. Men are pathetic. Oh, I know. Poor guy had no compassion for what you were dealing with, which I, you know, your feelings are valid, although they're kind of based, you know, it's sort of a fantasy. Well, your feelings are your feelings.

35:38🔗 Adam Evangelist-lawyer combinations are pretty potent psychological dynamic to grow up amongst. I mean, a lawyer alone, that's enough. Evangelist enough. The two, that is a one-two punch emotional.

35:50🔗 Drew You have a boyfriend. Hopefully, he can be supportive of your feelings and not focus on trying to catch a glimpse of some lesbian action.

35:56🔗 Caller He is so excited.

35:58🔗 Drew I mean, Oh, please don't get me angry.

36:00🔗 Adam Are you having sex with him, your boyfriend?

36:02🔗 Caller Absolutely not.

36:03🔗 Adam No, please. The guy's got to do something.

36:06🔗 Drew All right. But look, I just think you set some boundaries in the household and keep focused on the fact that these are your friends, that you have issues with homosexuality. It's not their issue. It's yours. It frightens you and it overwhelms you. You don't know how to deal with it. You'll learn something about it. There's a lot of homosexual people in the world and they're fine. They're good people just like you.

36:24🔗 Caller I told my boyfriend about it and he's like, well, maybe you're so homophobic, you might just want to get in bed with him.

36:32🔗 Adam He's working a good angle, that boy.

36:34🔗 Drew You should be much more disturbed about this boyfriend than anything else in this story. That's a much more serious problem.

36:41🔗 Adam Let me tell you the beauty of Alyson and the way folks like Alyson think. The more the boyfriend brings it up, the more she gets pissed at the girls.

36:48🔗 Right.

36:50🔗 Adam Right. You see, that's what I love about good religious thinking. Do you see the connection there? This is why I don't like religion for the most part. He can bring up lesbianism, threesomes, wanting to walk in, wanting to get you involved with them, wanting to set up a video, and you'll get more and more pissed off at these two lonely lesbians who aren't really doing anything except for messing up one side of the sofa. Now, focus. Make this your own issue and your boyfriend's issue, and don't make a big deal out of it.

37:20🔗 Drew Remember that these are your friends. That's all. And that you have a right to certain boundaries and propriety in your house. That's all.

37:28🔗 Adam I'd love to find a woman like this. Do you know what I'm saying?

37:31🔗 Drew Like Alyson.

37:32🔗 Adam Hey, he just keeps going off about the lesbianism. She gets more and more angry at the lesbian.

37:37🔗 Drew This is like the girl, the guy that cheats on his girlfriend, and the girl gets mad at the girl he cheats with. Right.

37:42🔗 Adam Right. That's good. Yeah, it's like your dog takes a dump on the throw rug, and you get pissed at the rug. Yeah. Because if the rug wasn't there, the dog would have just crapped into space.

37:50🔗 Yeah.

37:51🔗 Adam The dog would, the cramp would just be floating out in some black hole somewhere, entering the Milky Way. All right. Alyson is here from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and we will be back.

38:02🔗 Caller You have five seconds. Hey, this is Paul.

38:27🔗 Adam This is Kevin.

38:28🔗 And this is Steve, and we're Smash Mouth, and you're listening to Love Lines with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

38:33🔗 Adam Yes, you is. Couple of remakes going on out there. This is one of them. Good song, though. I think they did a good job on it. Okay, Drew. Alyson Hannigan is here. You haven't heard this? I can't get enough of it. You know the original?

38:50🔗 Drew The Smash Mouth?

38:51🔗 Adam Yeah.

38:52🔗 Drew I like Smash Mouth, so I'm sure that...

38:53🔗 Adam Oh, you do? All right. Alyson Hannigan is here from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Tuesday nights, 8 o'clock on the...

39:01🔗 Drew Isn't Smash Mouth the guys that keep telling us they're going to come up here and never do?

39:04🔗 Adam I run into Steve from Smash Mouth everywhere. He's always drunk. Coincidentally, I'm usually drunk when I run into him because it's some concert thing. He gives me a bear hug. He throws me over his shoulder and gets me in a suplex and gives me the pile driver and then swears up and down he's going to be in LA. Usually it's a day or two after whatever it is wherever we are and then he never shows up. That's all right. Gives me a nice bear hug. Jennifer?

39:34🔗 Caller Yeah?

39:35🔗 Adam You're 17.

39:36🔗 Caller Yep.

39:36🔗 Adam What's going on?

39:38🔗 Caller Well, there's this guy at my work and he has a huge crush on me, but he's 31.

39:44🔗 Drew And you're how old?

39:45🔗 Caller I don't like him and I don't know how to let him know I don't like him.

39:49🔗 Adam Well, you got to have sex with him.

39:51🔗 Caller No.

39:51🔗 Adam No?

39:52🔗 Caller I'm not going to do that.

39:54🔗 Caller All right.

39:55🔗 Adam Whatever. Where do you work?

39:58🔗 Caller Kroger.

40:00🔗 Alyson Hannigan Oh, I like Kroger.

40:01🔗 Drew What is Kroger?

40:02🔗 Alyson Hannigan Kroger is a grocery store in the south.

40:04🔗 Adam Oh, it is?

40:04🔗 Alyson Hannigan They have great egg custard pie.

40:07🔗 Adam Wow.

40:07🔗 Alyson Hannigan I love Kroger.

40:09🔗 Adam What would it be equivalent to out here? Is it like a Gelson's or is it a Lucky's?

40:13🔗 Alyson Hannigan I think it's a Gelson's. But I don't know.

40:16🔗 Drew You have a right to assume in the workplace that you're not going to be harassed in this fashion. I mean, if you really don't like the way he's treating you, you need to tell a manager. That is out of line. It's one thing that you kind of are aware that he's had a crush on you. That's harmless enough. But if he is intruding on you, making you uncomfortable, affecting your comfort in the workplace, serious issue. I would take it up with a manager. If you can't communicate it to them, maybe the manager can help you set the boundaries and make things clearer so it isn't ultimately more uncomfortable for you.

40:50🔗 Adam Is this guy the manager?

40:52🔗 Drew No. And be sure to tell the manager, too, that you're not, you know, you're concerned about it being a healthy work environment. You don't want to upset the guy and create all kinds of god knows what kind of reaction from him. But you need the manager's help in setting down some boundaries.

41:03🔗 Adam What do you do over there?

41:04🔗 Drew And if he does become aggressive, then set it down absolutely.

41:07🔗 Adam What do you do over there, Jennifer?

41:08🔗 I'm a beggar. Beggar?

41:11🔗 Adam Beggar. They got unions for that, right? That's a good gig.

41:16🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah, good money.

41:18🔗 Adam That's not the kind of money we're making or anything, right? Better than you, but good money for you people.

41:26🔗 Drew Better than you made most of your life, though, right?

41:28🔗 Adam Oh, hell yes. Yes. I was a digger and making seven bucks an hour. All right, Jennifer.

41:36🔗 Drew Tell the manager, right?

41:37🔗 Adam Okay. All right. Tell him first and give him a chance and then tell the manager. This is what I always believe, that you need to give people even if the guy's a little bit out of line, you need to give people the opportunity to correct their behavior without somebody correcting it for them.

41:54🔗 Drew It's hard, though, if somebody feels overwhelmed or threatened.

41:58🔗 Adam That's true. Yeah, it's on the other hand, it's weird because you go tell the manager, then the manager comes down on him like a hammer and now he comes, he passes you and he looks down at his shoes when he walks by and you got to go to work with this guy.

42:13🔗 Drew That's what I was referring to, right, that maybe the manager can help her communicate it to him in a way that's effective without getting him angry and aggressive. Who knows what, reacting in some way.

42:24🔗 Adam The beauty of this is, especially if it's a big chain, everyone is so paranoid these days of any kind of sexual harassment case or anything like that. Everyone goes to sensitivity training and all that other BS, so they're going to take it seriously. Am I right, Drew? Yep, all right. JR.

42:43🔗 Hey.

42:44🔗 Adam Hey, you're 14, man.

42:45🔗 Dr. Drew, I have a question for you. Yeah. My sister was hit by a car a couple of years ago and she lived through it and she's fine. She ice skates now and stuff like that, but I was wondering if that could have psychological problems on me because. Sure. I thought I was cool with it and stuff like that, but I was in a CPR class the other day and all of a sudden I got panic attack. I got really hot, I couldn't see, I couldn't hear.

43:08🔗 Drew All right. Panic attacks are just one of the most miserable experiences the humans get to go through, and most people experience them as a sense of impending doom, where they've become preoccupied that they're going to have a heart attack, they get chest pain, they feel like they're going to have a stroke, they feel like they're going to go crazy, and anything you can imagine that seems an ultimate experience is going through your mind, your heart races, you get short of breath, you feel like you can't walk, can't see as you're describing, and these are panic attacks and lots of people get these.

43:37🔗 Adam Were you present when your sister got hit by the car?

43:40🔗 Yeah, I saw the whole thing.

43:41🔗 Drew I mean, certainly this could be obviously just a sort of a remnant of that whole traumatic experience, sort of what would be sort of couched under the classification of a post-traumatic stress disturbance. It might be that you're depressed, it might be that you have a bonafide panic disorder that's coming out now.

43:56🔗 Adam Well, I think part of it is too is the particular YJR went to the YMCA, they couldn't afford a CPR dummy, so they used a cadaver and that brought on.

44:06🔗 Drew Think of a little panic. But in their drugs that induce panic attacks, cocaine use can induce panic up to five years after the use. Panic, again, can be part of a multiplicity of different syndromes. In your case, it sounds like it's a natural result of having been a part of that trauma.

44:21🔗 Adam That's enough about panicking. What happened? Did she run across the street?

44:25🔗 Drew I got to finish. You got to make sure, though, JR., this is important, that you be sure that you don't have any medical problems like thyroid conditions. There are things, there are plenty of medical conditions, medications, that can precipitate what would otherwise be seen as panic attack. Go ahead, Adam.

44:40🔗 Adam He probably didn't really have a panic attack. He probably just got a little dry mouth and went to sit out. JR.?

44:47🔗 Drew JR.?

44:48🔗 Adam Yeah. JR doesn't sound capable of a panic attack. It doesn't nudge him to get him to talk on the radio. Did you have a full blown panic attack, JR.?

44:58🔗 I don't know. I never had it before.

45:00🔗 Adam Okay. What happened with your sister? Did she run across the street and you saw it happen?

45:05🔗 No, she was crossing the street and it was like a blind curve and the guy went on the wrong side of the street to go around her but she darted for the house and it happened.

45:15🔗 Adam Did you see it? Yeah.

45:17🔗 You know how like in place they throw up the little rag dolls?

45:19🔗 Adam I don't know about our listeners. What happened? She ran across it.

45:22🔗 Drew Let him finish it.

45:23🔗 Adam What, Drew? Don't come down on me.

45:25🔗 Drew He was telling you something very important. What was it like?

45:28🔗 You know how like in place they throw up the little rag dolls and they do cartwheels?

45:32🔗 Drew Yeah.

45:32🔗 That's exactly how it looked like.

45:35🔗 Adam So she went toppling?

45:36🔗 Yeah. She got a compound fracture in her femur.

45:38🔗 Adam But she's all right now?

45:40🔗 Drew Oh yeah.

45:41🔗 She ice skates and stuff like that.

45:42🔗 Adam Did you have to perform any kind of CPR or anything on her? No.

45:46🔗 Drew Just a limb fracture.

45:47🔗 Adam Okay. All right. That's bad, but it could be all right.

45:51🔗 Drew Yeah. It wasn't a head injury.

45:51🔗 Adam She'll be all right. I think JR will too.

45:54🔗 Drew Probably. That's true.

45:55🔗 Alyson Hannigan My mom got hit by a car when I was really young. I didn't have any. I took her to show and tell actually.

46:00🔗 Drew Did you see it happen?

46:01🔗 Alyson Hannigan No.

46:01🔗 Drew No. You just saw her afterwards.

46:03🔗 Adam You took her to show and tell after she got hit by the car?

46:05🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah. And we all got to learn how to make casts.

46:09🔗 Adam Did you go to one of those hippie schools?

46:10🔗 Alyson Hannigan It was a private school.

46:12🔗 Adam Yeah. That didn't sound like something that would go on anywhere else.

46:14🔗 Alyson Hannigan I didn't go to public school because I was sick of that.

46:16🔗 Adam I quit Bogart and the hookah, man, and passed me the plaster. No.

46:20🔗 Alyson Hannigan It was more like till fourth grade and then I went to public school.

46:24🔗 Adam Right. That was my career.

46:27🔗 Alyson Hannigan I should have gone backwards, I think.

46:28🔗 Adam Did you not learn how to read?

46:30🔗 Alyson Hannigan No. They were just like, well, if you don't feel like it.

46:33🔗 Adam If you don't feel like reading, that's cool.

46:35🔗 Alyson Hannigan You don't know all the stuff.

46:36🔗 Adam All right. Yeah. Get to call your teachers by their first name.

46:38🔗 Alyson Hannigan I really like this drawing. It's very nice.

46:42🔗 Adam Yeah, that was my school.

46:44🔗 Alyson Hannigan That's great. Yeah, I hated it. Yeah, but look at you. I went to public school.

46:47🔗 Drew You guys are nuts.

46:48🔗 Alyson Hannigan I couldn't spell. I still can't.

46:50🔗 Adam Wow. We got to talk.

46:51🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah.

46:52🔗 Adam Yeah. That's my life. I went to public school.

46:54🔗 Alyson Hannigan We went to the same school, I think. Didn't we have this conversation?

46:57🔗 Adam Yes. We did? Wow. Heavy, man. Yeah. That's where the man was trying to keep me down.

47:03🔗 Drew Did a good job of it too. Only it succeeded.

47:05🔗 Adam You know, when you go to hippie school your whole life and then you go to public school, I remember some kid going to me. I think I told this before but it bears repainting. Some kid said to me, hey, the bell rang. I didn't know what the bell was ringing for. I thought it was some sort of fire drill. He goes, and I was just standing around and everyone else was scattering to class and he goes, you better hurry up, you're going to be tardy. I was like, what's tardy? Tardy isn't a word that exists anywhere but public schools. It's not in the hippie schools and there's no tardy at work or anything else. I mean, tardy is something you learn in public school. Bunch of guys with crew cuts hitting other guys with utility balls in a big chain link fence environment. Yeah, oppressive, man. Couldn't spread my wings, couldn't finger paint, couldn't play with clay. Okay, we'll be back.

47:53🔗 Caller Loveline, be right back in a minute.

48:10🔗 Adam Hey, all right. It's the Love Line. And we will be back in ten seconds.

48:16🔗 Caller This is Love Line on Radio Station.

48:25🔗 Drew Love Line on 127.

48:31🔗 Adam It is Love Line. I'm Adam Corolla. That be Dr. Drew. Phone number for Love Line, 1-800-L-A-V-E-1-9-1. Alyson Hannigan is here from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Tuesday Nights, 8 o'clock on the WB and kind of building momentum as it goes, wouldn't you say?

48:52🔗 Alyson Hannigan Oh, yes, definitely.

48:56🔗 Adam Yeah, I don't know. You know, I'll tell you what, I wouldn't have picked that show to be as successful as it is.

49:03🔗 Alyson Hannigan Have you watched it?

49:05🔗 Adam Drew told me about it. And, you know, from Drew's accounts. No, I got to be honest. It didn't. Didn't we go through this last time we were on the show?

49:13🔗 Alyson Hannigan Probably.

49:14🔗 Adam There's only been a year.

49:15🔗 Alyson Hannigan All right.

49:16🔗 Adam Usually my excuse is I can't watch something.

49:18🔗 Drew Because it's on. We're on.

49:20🔗 Adam Yeah, we're on. That's the one I use.

49:22🔗 Drew So this is on at 8 or 830.

49:23🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah. Can't you fire up that beta machine?

49:26🔗 Adam I don't know how that works. And I have one that only record porn.

49:31🔗 Drew And you're right. See how that VHS thing has passed, that fad? We're already on to the DVD. You're right to stay with the beta.

49:38🔗 Adam The point is, is I don't have any excuse for not watching this. You know, but I'll tell you honestly, here's the way I feel. Because I hear nothing but great things about this show. I feel like on a show like this, and I know you're not on, you don't need this kind of promotion because it's not really promotion, but I feel like it already got started up and now I'm lost. It's like some class that I'm coming into halfway into the semester and I don't know what page we're on. Go ahead and explain to us why that's not true.

50:06🔗 Drew Well, these things are written to capture you in a single episode. Every single one of those is written to be a serial and to get you hooked in after one of you.

50:15🔗 Adam I know you could make that argument for a lot of shows, but I watched The Simpsons because The Simpsons are just the episode is self-contained. I know, okay, you could make this argument for anything. I feel like on shows like this or Dawson's Creek or X-Files. I've never seen an X-Files episode because I just feel like I'm behind.

50:38🔗 Alyson Hannigan I understand that feeling, but I just think that you're wrong.

50:42🔗 Adam Okay. I never saw Twin Peaks either because I just felt like-

50:46🔗 Alyson Hannigan Twin Peaks, didn't you pretty much have to watch every episode though?

50:48🔗 Adam Yeah, I guess so. That's what I mean. I never saw one. I never saw the first 10, so I couldn't see the next 100.

50:54🔗 Alyson Hannigan You can take any of our shows and basically figure everything out. I mean, you might be like, well, it's the story behind that character.

51:02🔗 Drew I mean, they must write with that in mind constantly.

51:06🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yes.

51:06🔗 Adam So starting Tuesday, this, what day is it? Oh, is that tomorrow?

51:12🔗 Drew Yeah.

51:13🔗 Adam Yeah, not tomorrow, but the following Tuesday, I'm going to watch your show and I'm coming back with a review, right Drew?

51:18🔗 Drew Sure.

51:19🔗 Adam And you too, you bastard.

51:20🔗 I'll hold my breath.

51:22🔗 Caller Matt. Yeah.

51:23🔗 Adam You're 13.

51:24🔗 Caller Yeah. What's going on there? Big fan of the show, been listening for a long time. My parents listened. Yeah. But they only started when I was young, when I was like a teenager to teach me. But what I really caught about was Buffy the Vampire Slayer, big fan of the show.

51:45🔗 Alyson Hannigan Oh, thank you.

51:46🔗 Caller Yeah. It's like my favorite show. Every Tuesday, I have to be home at exactly 8 o'clock or otherwise I'm on a pissy mood.

51:55🔗 Oh, well, thank you.

51:56🔗 Adam You're 13. What are you doing now?

51:59🔗 Caller Right now?

51:59🔗 Adam Yeah. I mean, you're home at the, you know.

52:01🔗 Caller I wasn't into your show.

52:02🔗 Adam No, I was at the, down at the club playing Pinochle. You're 13. Of course, you're home at 8 o'clock.

52:09🔗 Caller Yeah. He seems to be outside. Well, because my mom makes me go to Boy Scouts.

52:12🔗 Adam Oh, really?

52:13🔗 Caller Yeah.

52:13🔗 Adam Yeah. That'll turn you gay, you know. All right, Adam, just kidding. Come on.

52:23🔗 Caller All right. So one of my questions, my first one, though, is like I'm such a big fan of the show and I've never been able to find a poster. Can I get an autographed poster of the whole cast?

52:36🔗 Alyson Hannigan Um, well, I can give you or I can take down in your address. And I don't know if I can get you one with the whole cast sign, because, well, I don't know if they even make posters anymore, but we can like get you a cast photo. I don't know about cast like poster.

52:52🔗 Drew What number? Or do you want to?

52:55🔗 Alyson Hannigan No, no, I'll take his and send it.

52:57🔗 Adam Man, you're not going to do anything weird, do it, are you?

52:59🔗 Drew Look behind you, Alyson. Yeah, they want you to send your picture to him.

53:05🔗 Alyson Hannigan I can send my picture, but he wanted the cast picture. I can send my picture and the cast picture.

53:09🔗 Adam How about that?

53:11🔗 Caller All right.

53:12🔗 Alyson Hannigan It's not a poster, but it's a picture.

53:14🔗 Adam It's big enough.

53:15🔗 Drew Hold and we'll get his number off you.

53:16🔗 Adam Cool.

53:17🔗 Drew Alyson, you got that?

53:20🔗 Adam Yeah, it's like the one you put on the wall when you open the dry cleaner.

53:23🔗 Drew By the way, we haven't given out our new email address.

53:26🔗 Adam No, we're not going to.

53:27🔗 Drew Earthlink, loveline at earthlink.net.

53:31🔗 Adam All right. I still don't have the password, and I'm going to work that out.

53:36🔗 Drew Maybe a reason that they haven't given it to you.

53:39🔗 Adam I don't care. Diana?

53:41🔗 Yeah.

53:41🔗 Adam You're 18.

53:43🔗 Caller Yeah. What's going on? First, I want to say, Alyson, I love the show so much. I watch it religiously. I want to know if there's anything with you and David Boran is going on.

53:54🔗 Adam I was curious about that too.

53:56🔗 Alyson Hannigan Nothing whatsoever.

53:58🔗 Caller Are you sure?

53:59🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yes. We're just very good friends. I mean, that sounds serious.

54:03🔗 Adam How about Offstage?

54:05🔗 Caller No, no, no.

54:06🔗 Alyson Hannigan I'm talking about Offstage.

54:08🔗 Caller Like these guys that premieres and everything together.

54:10🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah. No. He's just a sweetie. And I also am a very big fan of his wife. So, in fact, I hang out with her more than I do. Are you married?

54:19🔗 Adam So you're like a lesbian thing?

54:21🔗 Alyson Hannigan No.

54:22🔗 Adam Oh, okay. I didn't know where you're going.

54:24🔗 Alyson Hannigan No. He's just very sweet and we're very affectionate, but that's it. And some people have caught on and been like, oh, you guys, you know, hang out or anything.

54:33🔗 Caller But are you going to get down and dirty with Seth Green next season?

54:36🔗 Alyson Hannigan I hope so. That's my boyfriend on the show.

54:40🔗 Adam We just had Seth in here.

54:41🔗 Caller Right, right.

54:42🔗 Alyson Hannigan He plays Oz on our show.

54:43🔗 Adam He was in Can't Hardly Wait.

54:45🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yes.

54:46🔗 Adam Yeah.

54:46🔗 Caller He's great.

54:47🔗 Adam Nice guy.

54:48🔗 Alyson Hannigan Very cool.

54:49🔗 Adam Yeah.

54:49🔗 Alyson Hannigan Very funny. I can't wait. He's going to be a series regular next season. Cool.

54:53🔗 Adam And you guys may have some sort of romance.

54:55🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, he's already my boyfriend.

54:57🔗 Adam So see, see, Drew, if you'd watch the show, you know what's going on. So you guys are already getting it on.

55:03🔗 Alyson Hannigan And no, we've only we've had one baby kiss and that's it.

55:08🔗 Adam Well, how old do you play? Seventeen.

55:11🔗 Alyson Hannigan Seventeen. Yeah. Going into our senior year at high school.

55:14🔗 Adam So I'm kind of the same thing. I'm 34, but I played 19 on the right.

55:20🔗 Drew Diana, what's your question?

55:22🔗 Caller Dr. Drew. I called earlier. I think I called the same day Seth Green was there. As a matter of fact, I told you that I had missed my period a couple of times because I was on micronore. Right. Well, I still haven't had it. And I was wondering how long you can go when you're on birth control pills without having your period.

55:39🔗 Drew You can go and go and go. Yeah. But you ought to talk to your doctor about it. It would be better if you menstruate, I suspect.

55:46🔗 Caller Okay.

55:46🔗 Adam Why?

55:48🔗 Drew Well, I mean, there can be problems with the endometrial growth. I mean, there shouldn't be with this particular pill. I mean, there's no absolute reason why she has to menstruate. She doesn't. It really doesn't. I mean...

56:00🔗 Alyson Hannigan I saw some science film that said it was very bad for girls' health.

56:04🔗 Drew Well, it depends on the situation. I mean, she's taking hormones that basically stop menstruation.

56:08🔗 Alyson Hannigan No, it was public high school.

56:10🔗 Drew Yeah, it depends. I mean, if they're saying that if a woman doesn't menstruate and she's not on medication and not on pills, yes, that's a sign of medical illness and they need to be evaluated. It's called oligomenorrhea or amenorrhea if they've never had a period or have it longer than six months.

56:21🔗 Adam Who'd you have for health over at Walter Reed or North Hollywood?

56:27🔗 Alyson Hannigan Health or I had Ms. Herbst for chemistry.

56:31🔗 Adam Oh, did they have Ms. Phillips over there or Ms. Sylvester?

56:38🔗 Alyson Hannigan That was Walter Reed for PE.

56:40🔗 Adam Yes.

56:41🔗 Alyson Hannigan Wasn't it? Yes.

56:42🔗 Caller And Ms. Washington?

56:43🔗 Adam Yes. Yes. You never had Ms. Comisar over at North Hollywood High, did you?

56:49🔗 Drew Comisar?

56:50🔗 Alyson Hannigan What about Ms. Horn?

56:53🔗 Adam No, didn't have Ms. Horn.

56:54🔗 Drew Let me finish, though. But, for instance, the Depo-Provera, which is similar to Micronorm, women may bleed constantly or have no period the entire time they're on the therapy. So, I mean, you want there to be a point. You want to keep it as close to the natural cycling of the system as you can. You have adequate astronauts.

57:16🔗 Adam This has reminded me, by the way, since we're waxing nostalgic about North Hollywood High. It's been a while since I've spoken to Mr. Gregory, my driver's ed teacher who failed me for no real good reason when I was in the 10th grade and screwed up an entire summer of mine. So I just like to take this opportunity to tell Mr. Gregory to kiss my hairy ass. Hope you're sweltering in your crappy little one bedroom in Van Nuys. Well, I go home to my palatial estate with my sports cars and my Asian hookers. Right, Drew?

57:52🔗 Drew There you go again.

57:53🔗 Adam That's right. What a life I'm leading.

57:55🔗 Drew Disparaging the Asians again.

57:57🔗 Adam What a life I'm leading.

57:58🔗 Drew Adam leading that stereotype again.

58:00🔗 Adam What if I like Asian hookers? Does that mean I'm disparaging them? All right. The point is I don't want to get sidetracked. Mr. Gregory, kiss my ass. Thank you. Stacey, you're 14.

58:12🔗 Caller Yeah.

58:13🔗 Caller What's going on?

58:14🔗 Caller Okay. I have this boyfriend who's 25, and we've been going out for about a year, and he's been beating me physically over little arguments that we have.

58:28🔗 Drew How long has this been going on for?

58:31🔗 Caller Pardon me?

58:31🔗 Drew How long has the physical abuse been going on for?

58:34🔗 Caller About four months.

58:36🔗 Drew Okay. You must end this relationship.

58:39🔗 Caller Well, that's the problem, though. I can't. Why? I'm like, it's like an addiction. I can't.

58:45🔗 Drew Yes, it is.

58:46🔗 Adam He's been beating you. How badly?

58:50🔗 Caller Yeah, well, where is it?

58:52🔗 Drew How old is he again? 25?

58:54🔗 Adam You're 14?

58:55🔗 Caller Yeah.

58:57🔗 Adam Sounds healthy. No?

58:58🔗 Drew It's a nightmare. It's a man.

59:00🔗 Alyson Hannigan What state do you live in?

59:01🔗 Caller Pardon me?

59:02🔗 Alyson Hannigan What state do you live in?

59:03🔗 Caller California.

59:04🔗 Alyson Hannigan Aren't there laws in there?

59:06🔗 Drew Oh, yes. You need to call the police or tell the social services.

59:10🔗 Adam She ain't going to do that.

59:11🔗 Caller I mean, well, yeah, I mean, of course.

59:14🔗 Drew You're going to end up?

59:16🔗 Adam Like your mom? Where's your mom?

59:20🔗 Caller She's in her room.

59:21🔗 Drew Was she beaten when you were growing up?

59:24🔗 Caller When out? Did she beat me?

59:26🔗 Drew No. Did you see her beaten when you were growing up?

59:28🔗 Caller Oh, by my dad, yeah. Okay.

59:30🔗 Drew So you think that's normal?

59:32🔗 Caller Uh, no.

59:33🔗 Adam Well, you kind of do. I mean, you may not think it's normal, but you act like it is.

59:39🔗 Drew As though it's acceptable, right?

59:41🔗 Caller Well, I've grown up with it all my life, so it's just not anything.

59:45🔗 Drew Well, but it is something. And when are we going to get the... Why do I blank out her name? OJ. Simpson's...

59:54🔗 Adam Nicole?

59:55🔗 Drew Nicole's sisters on the show.

59:58🔗 Adam There's just a little slip there.

59:59🔗 Alyson Hannigan First week of August.

1:00:00🔗 Drew First week of August. I mean, you know, you're going to end up like Nicole Brown Simpson. That's what's going to happen here. This is going to escalate. It's going to get worse. This is an extremely dangerous circumstance. I mean... And this guy is a criminal.

1:00:14🔗 Adam Well, wait a minute. I thought Nicole Brown was killed by drug lords because of her connection with that chick who had too much facial surgery.

1:00:25🔗 Caller She was abused.

1:00:27🔗 Drew But she was abused anyway and she ended up dead. Before the drug lords. Draw your own conclusions. This is a common story. Let's put it that way. You throw in a little stimulants. Is he an addict at all? The guy?

1:00:39🔗 Adam No, not at all.

1:00:40🔗 Drew Not at all. Thank God. You throw in some speed or some cocaine and you have murder.

1:00:45🔗 Adam The guy is twenty-five for Christ's sake. Where did you meet him?

1:00:51🔗 Caller Actually, I met him at a party.

1:00:52🔗 Adam You've been going out for a year?

1:00:54🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:00:55🔗 Adam He was thirteen. Well, wait a minute. He was twenty-four. So he was a year younger too, smarty pants. You understand?

1:01:02🔗 Caller Sorry, Adam.

1:01:04🔗 Drew What?

1:01:04🔗 Caller We're not sexually active.

1:01:07🔗 Drew That bothers Adam even more, unfortunately.

1:01:08🔗 Adam Well, now wait a minute. Hear me out for a second. It makes the relationship even more bizarre, in my opinion.

1:01:18🔗 Drew It makes it legal, though. I mean, yeah, I know.

1:01:21🔗 Adam But it's even more. It's more bizarre in its own way. Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they're not having a sexual relationship with her being 14 and him being 25. But wouldn't you agree that a 25 year old guy who's having a relationship with a 14 year old and he's beating her and it's not even a sexual relationship. I mean, it's not like he's just some sexual deviant who's pent up and horny and trying to get himself a young piece of ass. That's not even the relationship. It's a psychological dynamic that's going on here, which is to me even more dangerous.

1:01:58🔗 Drew Crazier, yeah.

1:01:59🔗 Adam Or crazier.

1:02:00🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:02:01🔗 Adam I mean, I'm glad they're not having sex, but I think you could make an argument for him being even more diabolical.

1:02:06🔗 Drew What can we say to help Stacey leave this relationship? Is there anything? What can we say? Except that, Stacey, that's the only option. There is no getting better from something like this. Not unless, you know, he's...

1:02:23🔗 Caller It's like anytime that happens or whatever, he's just like, well, I had to put up with it all my life because his parents used to meet him all the time.

1:02:30🔗 Drew Of course. Of course. In Adam's utopia, he would go after your parents and his parents before he went after him, or just immediately follow.

1:02:38🔗 Adam Right. And he would be sterilized. Yeah. Does he have any kids?

1:02:42🔗 Caller No.

1:02:43🔗 Drew That you know of?

1:02:44🔗 Adam Right.

1:02:44🔗 Caller That I know of.

1:02:45🔗 Adam Or that he knows of.

1:02:46🔗 Alyson Hannigan But I mean, what is it going to take until you actually decide that you have had too much?

1:02:52🔗 Drew It's going to get worse.

1:02:53🔗 Caller I don't know.

1:02:53🔗 Adam Oh, well, we forget about the physical abuse parties. Twenty-five, you're fourteen. Well, that is bizarre.

1:02:59🔗 Drew We know that. But I'm trying to think of some.

1:03:01🔗 Caller I've had people tell me before, well, I mean, like, because you guys were always talking about the whole father figure thing. Well, it's like I haven't talked to my dad in like a year.

1:03:11🔗 Drew I know. And your dad was an abuser when he was around. This is perfectly trying to live that out and make that right again. But the fact is, people, you need to release yourself from the bonds and chains of your childhood. You have to find a way, when you can acknowledge that that's what's going on, you must find a way to make a real human contact with another person who doesn't fit the mold, doesn't fit the character, the role that you've cast to try to solve the problems of childhood, you must abandon those old patterns that are left over from your childhood and your family of origin and try to make contact with people that are not so enticing and a little more boring and you'll find far greater satisfaction.

1:03:55🔗 Adam You know, it's horribly flawed in the component, horribly flawed component in human beings, which is if Stacey had taken a math class when she was 12 and she had some maniacal teacher who brought her up in front of the class and made her do some equation that she could do. She'd never get near a chalkboard or an abacus again in her life, so help me. But she can watch her dad beat the crap out of her mom for 10 years and be horribly attracted to a man who beats her. That is why there's no God. He would not create man that way. It would be a cruel God if he did that. Yes, you guys all know I'm right. Thank you. Andrea, you're 19.

1:04:40🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:04:41🔗 Alyson Hannigan I was wondering what kind of sexual activity is normal in childhood.

1:04:48🔗 Drew Anything that's not actually sexual. Fiddling, diddling, and goofing around and that kind of stuff. But at the point at which it becomes purposely sexual, you've got a problem.

1:05:00🔗 Alyson Hannigan Playing doctor.

1:05:02🔗 Drew That's sort of experimentation, exploration, I guess. What happened?

1:05:05🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, I just remember like young, like grade school, just friends and I would find hideouts and play around and stuff.

1:05:16🔗 Adam Same age as you?

1:05:17🔗 Alyson Hannigan What?

1:05:18🔗 Adam Your friends were the same age?

1:05:19🔗 Alyson Hannigan Same age.

1:05:20🔗 Drew What kind of playing around?

1:05:21🔗 Caller Just touching, feeling, experimenting, I guess.

1:05:25🔗 Alyson Hannigan Nothing like clothes on, of course. But I mean, I thought it was normal because they were doing it, too.

1:05:31🔗 Drew But well, but it doesn't necessarily mean.

1:05:33🔗 Adam No, no, no. Listen, this is normal.

1:05:36🔗 Drew What did it have a sexual quality to it?

1:05:40🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah.

1:05:40🔗 Caller I mean, it was enticing.

1:05:42🔗 Drew But well, but was it's.

1:05:43🔗 Adam I mean, but see, Drew, you can't really have this question answered in a satisfactory way the way you're asking. It was a sexual thing where people slapping each other in the ass and you love it, bitch. I don't think so. But there was something naughty and something covert about it. You knew not to do it in front of your parents, right?

1:06:03🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah.

1:06:03🔗 Adam You want somewhere to do it.

1:06:05🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah.

1:06:06🔗 Caller But yeah, exactly.

1:06:08🔗 Drew How have your relationships been?

1:06:11🔗 Alyson Hannigan I don't know. Not too good.

1:06:13🔗 Caller Okay, I guess.

1:06:14🔗 Alyson Hannigan Nothing real extraordinary.

1:06:16🔗 Drew Yeah. Are you confused about your sexual identity at all?

1:06:18🔗 Caller Oh, no. Not at all.

1:06:20🔗 Adam You know you're bisexual unequivocally?

1:06:22🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:06:24🔗 Adam But wait a minute. Are you bisexual?

1:06:26🔗 Caller Well, I haven't. I mean, I believe I could be, but I haven't.

1:06:30🔗 Adam What do you mean you could be?

1:06:32🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, I haven't had the opportunity, but you know.

1:06:35🔗 Drew It sounds that we would...

1:06:36🔗 Adam I was making a joke, but maybe there is a little ambivalence?

1:06:40🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah.

1:06:41🔗 Drew All right, so.

1:06:42🔗 Caller Okay.

1:06:43🔗 Adam You're 19.

1:06:43🔗 Alyson Hannigan But where's the line drawn age-wise? Because I remember, you know, bathing with my neighbor across the street. And he was a boy.

1:06:53🔗 Caller Normal.

1:06:53🔗 Adam And then his cigar fell to the tub, and the mom got pissed off.

1:06:57🔗 Alyson Hannigan But then I remember also like doing the whole like, you know, hiding behind the bushes and, okay, I'll show you more.

1:07:03🔗 Adam Drew, Drew. Hold on. Let me, let me talk that. Ouch. Baby, I'm over here. Let me talk to you for a second. Drew has triplets. Yeah. Okay. That's three. You see? And they're all, what are they? 11?

1:07:20🔗 Drew Five.

1:07:20🔗 Adam Five. But together they're 15. They're five going on six. So I like when people say that kind of stuff. Like, we're engaged to be married. Oh, that's different. Okay. So they're five, you know, they're getting in the right, they're starting the next few years, they're getting into that age where that kind of stuff goes on. That little pull the skirt up over the head, hanky panky, dittling around, screwing around, you know, that kind of stuff. Now, I try to tell Drew that this is sort of a facet.

1:07:50🔗 Drew It is.

1:07:50🔗 Adam Of childhood.

1:07:51🔗 Drew I totally agree with you.

1:07:52🔗 Adam But I don't have kids, so I can speak about it quite freely.

1:07:55🔗 Drew Let's see, Adam, it became an art form. He kept going into adolescence, where they started dittling with hoses and Please, Drew, don't. my equipment and things.

1:08:04🔗 Caller Hoses, please.

1:08:06🔗 Adam Please, don't embarrass me.

1:08:07🔗 Drew You described a garden hose episode.

1:08:09🔗 Alyson Hannigan I want to hear that story.

1:08:11🔗 Adam Somebody and not myself, but no, these guys were 18, 19 at this point.

1:08:16🔗 Drew You kept the childhood thing could have been evolved.

1:08:20🔗 Alyson Hannigan 18, 19 in the garden hose, go on.

1:08:23🔗 Adam Jesus Christ, Drew. When did I tell you this story?

1:08:26🔗 Drew You told me all the animals.

1:08:28🔗 Adam I'm going to embarrass my friend. I don't want to bring the guy's name up, but they put a little garden hose in his ass and then filled his ass up with some water. Then we drove to the Jack in the Box drive-thru and he hung his ass out the window, shot some water out of his ass under the Jack in the Box thing. I mean, it's normal stuff. I'm sure every 18 or 19-year-old goes through that phase where they put a hose in their ass and they go to a Jack in the Box drive-thru.

1:08:55🔗 Drew I just want to make sure we make the point that Adam is the one telling us what is normal behavior in childhood, okay?

1:09:00🔗 Alyson Hannigan He's also telling us that it was a friend of his.

1:09:02🔗 Adam Normal at 18.

1:09:03🔗 Drew He's alone.

1:09:04🔗 Alyson Hannigan He's alone. And he went in a chicken sandwich.

1:09:06🔗 Adam All I was doing is riding shotgun, you know, like our first caller who was at the bank trying to look into a T-bar. No, luckily the wind was blowing the other direction and I was fine.

1:09:18🔗 Alyson Hannigan How did he hold it?

1:09:21🔗 Adam He has a lot of tenacity, a lot of stick-to-it-ness, training, a lot of training. It was a fairly short, fairly short drive. I mean, it was just about a mile. Let me tell you what, you know, there was a guy in front of us at the drive-thru was like ordering for the whole softball team. And believe me, was not happy about this. You never heard a guy like, come on, let's go, let's go.

1:09:44🔗 Drew You think about this group of guys sitting around. It wasn't like they thought to go to Jack in the Box after the Garden Hose. This must have been plotted out. How long did they figure this grand scheme out?

1:09:53🔗 Adam You know, there's not a lot to do in the Valley growing up, Drew. You got to make your own fun. I wasn't like you with tickets to the opera. You understand?

1:10:01🔗 Drew As we said, so there, yes, absolutely, there is exploration that is normal and is very hard to distinguish overtly sexual exploration versus normal sort of pre-puberty, pre-sexual exploration which really isn't purposeful. It's not directed towards orgasm or penetration or anything like that.

1:10:21🔗 Alyson Hannigan Now, you do know that, I mean, at least my friends, we all made our Barbies have sex.

1:10:28🔗 Drew That's common to have, we had this conversation last time you were up here.

1:10:32🔗 Caller Yeah, okay.

1:10:34🔗 Drew It's common for kids to do-

1:10:35🔗 Alyson Hannigan Not that I'm obsessed with Barbies having sex or anything.

1:10:36🔗 Drew But again, it's usually not, it's not really purposeful. It's sort of like putting them together and on top. You kind of have a sense of what it is.

1:10:41🔗 Adam Well, listen, here's what it is. It's like boys, they play army with fake guns. There's not real bullets flying around, but you get the notion of what they're trying to do. Now, they're not going to grow up and join the army and kill somebody necessarily, but it's the same sort of thing. There's that inclination.

1:10:59🔗 Drew There's an inclination, yeah.

1:11:00🔗 Adam A friend of mine put a Kindle on this ass and shot it out at a McDonald's. Okay, Drew. Thanks for bringing that up, by the way, Drew.

1:11:10🔗 More stories.

1:11:11🔗 Drew This is what I learned traveling with you about.

1:11:13🔗 Adam All right, I gotta stop taking them tranquilizers on the plane, you know? It's like I start rambling, you know? All right, we'll be back. Hey, it's Love Line. Allison Hanning is here from Buffy the Vampire. What is that? Is that too loud? I didn't get it. Was it because I was talking?

1:12:00🔗 Drew You just killed us here, Mike.

1:12:01🔗 I got it.

1:12:02🔗 Adam What was that?

1:12:03🔗 Drew Maybe that's some kind of power city.

1:12:05🔗 Adam Oh, really? That's God punishing the two sinners.

1:12:10🔗 Drew There's something very wrong with the transmission. It's like-

1:12:12🔗 Alyson Hannigan Rice crispy.

1:12:13🔗 Drew Yes. All kinds of-

1:12:14🔗 Adam Well, now I'm getting it.

1:12:15🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:12:16🔗 Adam Anyway.

1:12:17🔗 Drew All right.

1:12:17🔗 Adam Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

1:12:19🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:12:19🔗 Adam Tuesday nights, eight o'clock. No excuse not to watch it, Drew.

1:12:24🔗 Drew If this is going out of the air, it sounds terrible. I know what it sounds like in there.

1:12:28🔗 Adam I sound good.

1:12:29🔗 No.

1:12:34🔗 Adam All right. This is Westwood 1. Maybe one of the chipmunks got tired and the generator slowed down. Should you go out to the back of the building and feed them?

1:12:43🔗 It's just your headphones, guys.

1:12:45🔗 Drew No, it sounds like you're talking to a kazoo.

1:12:47🔗 Adam Oh, it is? Yeah. I hear it a little bit, but not as much as you do.

1:12:52🔗 Drew All right.

1:12:53🔗 Adam All right. Here we go. Mike's assured us it's not going out over the air this way. Melissa?

1:12:59🔗 Caller Yes.

1:12:59🔗 Adam You're 18.

1:13:00🔗 Caller Yes.

1:13:01🔗 Adam What's going on with you?

1:13:02🔗 Caller Actually, I just want to call and say that you're wrong about Buffy. Like, I just started watching it about two months ago, and I had no problem whatsoever getting into it. And now actually I like to watch it all the time. I actually watched it tonight, which is why I called in, because it seemed really great to me that Alyson was on.

1:13:23🔗 Adam Tonight?

1:13:24🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah, they're repeating the first season on Mondays.

1:13:27🔗 Adam Oh, why didn't you tell me that? I would have said that.

1:13:29🔗 Alyson Hannigan It would have been a lot more hopeless.

1:13:31🔗 Adam But you watched that episode where everyone wore the name tags, right?

1:13:34🔗 Caller Nope.

1:13:35🔗 Adam No.

1:13:35🔗 Caller I know. I said, okay, who's that? Who's that? Who's that?

1:13:39🔗 Alyson Hannigan I could give you a cheat sheet, Adam.

1:13:41🔗 Adam Yeah. I want one of those things that I taped of the screen that has everyone's name over it and certify and says what color their hair is, so I don't have to look down at a piece of paper. Melissa?

1:13:53🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:13:53🔗 Adam All right. Now, this is sounding bad.

1:13:56🔗 Caller Well, I just had a quick question for Alyson. Yes. I want to know if you're anything at all like your character Willow, like actually how more she was last season and like if there, if you had any advice about like how people would go from being more of the friend like in the shadows to being more like in the limelight.

1:14:20🔗 Adam You got to talk to the writers, right?

1:14:23🔗 Alyson Hannigan Like how you would go about doing that in your own life?

1:14:26🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:14:27🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, I would just say just believe in yourself and just be true to who you are. And then it's more like you're just trying to, hey, wait a minute. You're just trying to please yourself and not anybody else. And then you can be more of yourself.

1:14:45🔗 Adam No, you get the drugs and then you're known as the candy man. And then your friends come around.

1:14:51🔗 Drew But I'm being facetious, but I mean, what you're saying, of course, is true. But how do you do that?

1:15:00🔗 Alyson Hannigan You have to go through adolescence and become an adult and then you can do it.

1:15:04🔗 Drew Yeah, you have to suffer a lot in the meantime. But let me... This is something we struggle a little bit with. Yeah. How do you get courage? Yeah, really. You ever think about that? How does somebody get courage?

1:15:14🔗 Adam Get drunk?

1:15:15🔗 Alyson Hannigan I think you're put into a situation where you either do it or you don't.

1:15:20🔗 Drew Yeah, but what gives people the strength to be able to step up?

1:15:22🔗 Alyson Hannigan I don't know. It just happens.

1:15:23🔗 Caller Well, I mean, I'm the strength in the group, but I mean, like, I'm not the one that ever gets noticed. I mean, like, I'm the dependable one and it's so fun.

1:15:31🔗 Alyson Hannigan But you might be getting noticed and you just don't know it because the people that are noticing you, you aren't noticing them also. And they're the ones that ten years from now, they're going to be the ones you want to, like, hook up with.

1:15:44🔗 Adam I'm going to put out a theory that I just thought of, but I think it's brilliant, absolutely brilliant, which is some people are in a, are evolving. And the good people evolve. They're not the same at 14 as they are at 18 as they will be at 25.

1:16:02🔗 Drew They don't get stuck.

1:16:03🔗 Adam Now, the people that get laid a lot in high school.

1:16:06🔗 Drew Stop there.

1:16:07🔗 Adam They started evolving, hit their peak about 15, 16, and then started sort of honing. Now, those people have a great time in high school because their breasts have evolved, their hair has evolved, their teeth has evolved, their ass has evolved, and they never looked, sounded, or did any better than from the time they were 16 to 18. The people that evolve unfortunately are passing through a phase at 16 or 18 and may not hit their peak years until their mid or later 20s. So the more miserable you are at 18, probably the happier you're going to be at 28.

1:16:46🔗 Drew Also motivates you to keep changing if you're not happy.

1:16:48🔗 Adam Yeah, I've been to my class reunion.

1:16:51🔗 Drew And so guys like Adam can abuse you when you evolve into something higher, higher sort of existence.

1:16:57🔗 Adam Right.

1:16:57🔗 Drew Just because of what a nerd you were in high school. Adam can talk about knowing what your real person is all about.

1:17:03🔗 Adam That is not true. But when I went to my high school reunion, I did see that the folks that I saw, the folks that sort of peeked out and then started going downhill after they peaked and then the ones that kept evolving.

1:17:17🔗 Drew You abused the ones that kept evolving even on the air here.

1:17:19🔗 Adam I did?

1:17:21🔗 Alyson Hannigan I say that the more painful your teenage years are, the better you are in the long run.

1:17:28🔗 Adam Provided you don't kill yourself.

1:17:29🔗 Drew That which does not kill me makes me stronger?

1:17:31🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yes.

1:17:32🔗 Adam Yeah, unless you're talking about the carbon monoxide.

1:17:35🔗 Drew Well, also unless...

1:17:36🔗 Alyson Hannigan But then you know how miserable you can be, so you appreciate when you can be happy.

1:17:40🔗 Drew That and those patterns. You got to break those patterns, those impulsions to...

1:17:44🔗 Adam True, your patterns, talking about patterns. Hillary.

1:17:48🔗 Alyson Hannigan Hey.

1:17:48🔗 Adam This is driving me nuts with these headphones.

1:17:50🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yes.

1:17:52🔗 Drew You're getting a normal sound on your end?

1:17:53🔗 Caller Yeah, I hear it.

1:17:55🔗 Drew I hear it. It literally sounds like you were talking with it.

1:17:57🔗 Adam Hold on, I know Westwood 1. I think I can fix this.

1:18:00🔗 Alyson Hannigan You're going to hit something, aren't you?

1:18:02🔗 Drew No, I think it's that thing, bang that.

1:18:04🔗 Adam That's one.

1:18:04🔗 Caller Oh.

1:18:06🔗 Alyson Hannigan Hey, Dr. Drew.

1:18:07🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:18:07🔗 Adam That any better?

1:18:07🔗 Drew No.

1:18:09🔗 Alyson Hannigan Are you guys still messing with the sound?

1:18:10🔗 Drew Yeah, but go ahead, I'm listening to you.

1:18:12🔗 Alyson Hannigan Have you read that book by Scott Peck, The Road Less Traveled?

1:18:16🔗 Drew Yes.

1:18:17🔗 Alyson Hannigan What do you think of it?

1:18:17🔗 Drew Excellent.

1:18:18🔗 Alyson Hannigan I'm reading it right now.

1:18:19🔗 Drew Excellent book.

1:18:20🔗 Alyson Hannigan And then the grace part.

1:18:21🔗 Drew Excellent.

1:18:21🔗 Adam Is that out on cassette?

1:18:23🔗 Drew I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is, but Adam, you would agree to it. He talks about how people with personality disorders constantly blame the environment for their state.

1:18:31🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yeah, and they don't take responsibility.

1:18:33🔗 Drew They don't take responsibility. There's a theme that we strike off on in this show, but he gets into great detail about why that happens and what you can do to change it.

1:18:40🔗 Alyson Hannigan You know what? I didn't think my call was going to be answered because it's another like, why don't I get my period question? I didn't think you guys wanted to go on the menstruation route tonight, but I went off the pill about a year ago and I was on it for four years and my periods still aren't regular and it's been a year. And I've gone to the doctor and they took blood and they did a test on thyroid, I think, and the tests came out normal. And just the last week, I was having pains in my lower, I guess right where my ovaries.

1:19:15🔗 Drew Do you think you have cysts?

1:19:17🔗 Alyson Hannigan I was wondering that.

1:19:18🔗 Caller I'm going to the doctor tomorrow.

1:19:20🔗 Alyson Hannigan I just wanted to know what kind of questions to ask them.

1:19:22🔗 Drew Ask them to do an ultrasound.

1:19:24🔗 Alyson Hannigan An ultrasound.

1:19:24🔗 Drew Yeah, an ultrasound. And also, are you on any other medications?

1:19:28🔗 Alyson Hannigan No.

1:19:28🔗 Drew And were you regular before you went on the pill?

1:19:31🔗 Alyson Hannigan No, like way not irregular.

1:19:32🔗 Drew All right, so you may never, not everybody's regular. You may never be regular.

1:19:37🔗 Alyson Hannigan Well, it's kind of skit, well, I'm using a diaphragm right now and my boyfriend and I are, you know.

1:19:40🔗 Drew All right.

1:19:42🔗 Alyson Hannigan And I took a test today and I'm not pregnant.

1:19:44🔗 Drew You should use a diaphragm and a condom if you really want to be effective as a contraceptive.

1:19:48🔗 Adam Do you have a retriever to get that out?

1:19:50🔗 Alyson Hannigan You got to stick your finger in there and pull it out.

1:19:53🔗 Adam But don't they give you, you know, like when you shoot pool and there's something you can't get to, you pull the bridge out. They don't have any diaphragm bridge, there's nothing like that. I thought there was something, I swear to God, this thing came with a stick or something.

1:20:07🔗 Drew It was a tampon. Yeah, there may be. It's not a bad idea to have people...

1:20:12🔗 Adam No, it's more of a fuse than it is a string.

1:20:15🔗 Drew It's not a bad idea, Adam, but the lip of the diaphragm is usually pretty approachable with the finger.

1:20:20🔗 Adam Oh yeah, but isn't it like you're doing something to yourself, you know, when you go get it?

1:20:25🔗 Drew But your partner going to get it.

1:20:27🔗 Adam No, no, that's worse. That's worse. You know all that stuff where they go, well, I'll tell you, you make condoms. Here's what you do with condoms. You make it into a fun thing. She puts the condom on with her foot or something. Oh, please spare me. That is not exciting. He can go diving in after the diaphragm like a dog going after a tennis ball in the pool. Forget about it. You get your own diaphragm, I'll put my own damn condom on. We'll meet in the bed, we'll get it over with. Right, Drew?

1:20:58🔗 Drew Very romantic, Mr. Carolla. Isn't he something?

1:21:02🔗 Adam But I just, I hate when these so-called sex experts try to turn everything into some kind of foreplay. Know what I'm talking about?

1:21:10🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:21:11🔗 Adam Well, you can remove her prosthetic limb in a very amorous way. It's like, no, let her take it off. Maybe I could turn everything into foreplay. And we'll be back.

1:21:22🔗 Drew Feel so liquidy.

1:21:24🔗 Really? What? You're listening to Loveline with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew. Loveline will be right back. W-E-B-N.

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1:21:52🔗 It's Loveline.

1:21:53🔗 Caller W-E-B-N.

1:22:11🔗 Adam Let's all just relish this for a second.

1:22:14🔗 Drew Sounds normal, yeah.

1:22:15🔗 Adam Yes. Alyson Hannigan is here. I don't know why it's still saying 90210. Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

1:22:23🔗 Drew The music kind of sounds.

1:22:24🔗 Adam Is it back? We're not out of the woods completely with this mic, are we?

1:22:29🔗 Alyson Hannigan No.

1:22:29🔗 Adam Tuesday, 8 o'clock and Monday at 8 o'clock too.

1:22:34🔗 Alyson Hannigan Actually, I think it's Monday at 9 now. I don't know how long that's going to last.

1:22:38🔗 Adam Okay. All right. So if you if you tuned in at 8, you just catch Hanging with Mr. Cooper or something and then I'm guessing a very special episode. Or Nick Farino.

1:22:50🔗 Alyson Hannigan It's I think 7th Heaven.

1:22:52🔗 Adam 7th Heaven. Is that that family?

1:22:54🔗 Alyson Hannigan Yes, the preacher family.

1:22:56🔗 Adam Oh, is that what the deal is? It was fun. I should have guessed that by the title. I got to start paying closer attention. Oh, way to the new fall lineup comes out. Oh, am I going to have fun with that? I am going to have a field day with that. I can't wait to see the new ABC fall lineup. I can't wait to see Fantasy Island and Cupid, everybody. Okay, that's Sour Grapes. That's true. I had a pilot for ABC, which was, didn't make it onto the schedule.

1:23:32🔗 Alyson Hannigan Oh, I'm sorry.

1:23:33🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:23:33🔗 Alyson Hannigan What about Mid-Season?

1:23:36🔗 Adam They're thinking about it, although the sensors are having a lot of difficulty with much of the content.

1:23:42🔗 Drew Can you imagine that from Adam?

1:23:43🔗 Alyson Hannigan No, not at all.

1:23:44🔗 Drew Shocking.

1:23:44🔗 Alyson Hannigan Hard to believe.

1:23:45🔗 Adam Let me say this very quickly to the sensors and the networks, you guys. And I said this to Drew off the air, and I know this will be true. Remember what was going on with the American car companies around the mid-70s? Americans always had the market cornered here. They made their big, fat, inefficient, gas-guzzling, ugly piece of crap cars well into the 70s. And all of a sudden, somewhere in the mid-early 70s, started seeing these little cars come in, little Hondas, little Datsuns, as they called them at the time, Toyota.

1:24:25🔗 Drew Then suddenly there was a Z car.

1:24:27🔗 Adam And the big car company said, don't pay them any mind. And then the gas crunch came, and they still said, don't worry about them. And they still made their big, crappy, lumbering piles of ass, just like the networks do. And the, see, what the Japanese car companies are the equivalent to your Comedy Central's, and your Fox's, and your WB's. We can find Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and all these other stations starting to come up. But don't worry, the big, arrogant American car companies, they said, don't worry about it.

1:25:01🔗 Drew We know how to make cars.

1:25:02🔗 Adam Five years later, they were getting their asses kicked, and they still haven't recovered. This is what's gonna happen with you networks if you guys don't smarten up. Idiots.

1:25:14🔗 Caller All right.

1:25:15🔗 Paul.

1:25:17🔗 Adam You're 18.

1:25:19🔗 Caller Hi.

1:25:21🔗 Adam Everything's painful now. What's going on? Thank God there's only 15 minutes of this show left.

1:25:26🔗 Oh, really? Yeah. I got one quick comment on the just the atheism. I have to say I've been to that stage and it's not that fun, but I don't know. Hopefully you'll get through it, too.

1:25:39🔗 Adam But anyway, where did you find Jesus in prison? What? Where was Jesus when you found him?

1:25:45🔗 Jesus was Jesus was just right here where you and I are. OK.

1:25:49🔗 Adam But what do you have to do? Go through rehab or something first?

1:25:53🔗 A rehab?

1:25:53🔗 Caller No.

1:25:54🔗 Adam Nobody finds Jesus unless the wheels fall off the wagon. So what happened?

1:25:58🔗 Oh, well, that's why 99% of the world believes in Jesus, right? Or a god.

1:26:04🔗 Adam Right. But no, some get indoctrinated into it early on in life, and then others wait for a tragedy later on in life to get into it.

1:26:13🔗 I agree with a lot of the things you're saying. Most of the belief in God comes from fear and nowhere else to look. And you don't want to put all the responsibility on yourself, so you ask God to help you.

1:26:24🔗 Adam Right. Well, what got you into it?

1:26:27🔗 What got me into it?

1:26:29🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:26:29🔗 It's just like everyone else, tragedy. Because no one ever asks for help until...

1:26:34🔗 Adam That's what I was saying.

1:26:35🔗 What happened? Well, I went to a doctor. I went through a phase where I was having panic attacks, like daily at school, and I went through a living hell, basically. And what happened was I had a lot of friends that all did drugs. I was raised in a straight Catholic home. That's my little brother.

1:27:00🔗 Drew Were you doing drugs?

1:27:02🔗 Caller I think he's outing you.

1:27:04🔗 OK. Hello?

1:27:05🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:27:05🔗 So anyway, I went through that, and so...

1:27:09🔗 Adam Well, that kid is a pain in the ass.

1:27:10🔗 He had to deal with that. You would love this guy. This guy is the greatest brother you could have.

1:27:14🔗 Adam I would kick his ass up and down the hall if I were you. I do.

1:27:17🔗 Don't worry about it.

1:27:18🔗 Adam All right.

1:27:19🔗 But anyway, I went through a lot of crap, and I started to smoke marijuana with him for about a week, and I actually hallucinated, and I was talking with a priest counselor in my school, and I thought I saw the hand of God, and I basically, I flipped out, and then I went to this, they took me to this hospital, and they diagnosed me as mag depressive or whatever.

1:27:44🔗 Drew All right. So be careful, Paul. You've got a serious illness. I mean, that's...

1:27:47🔗 Yeah. Was that Dr. Drew?

1:27:49🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:27:50🔗 Okay. Yeah. Well, I definitely agree with you. It is a serious illness, but the thing I don't agree with the pharmaceutical company is Andy, and the psychiatrist about it is that it's a permanent.

1:28:04🔗 Adam I think he's on a pirate ship or something.

1:28:06🔗 Drew Paul, unless it was induced by the drugs you were using, it's not something for you to decide to believe or not to believe. It just happens to be a fact.

1:28:16🔗 Adam And let me tell you about God.

1:28:17🔗 That may be...

1:28:18🔗 Adam God invented the pharmaceutical companies and the scientists who work for them, right, Drew? This is a, you know what I mean? It's just one step removed.

1:28:26🔗 Drew It's not useful to get in these big arguments and stuff, but that's the fact. I mean, this is just the way this condition is. And if indeed God could take it away, it wouldn't exist in all the millions of people that have it because many of them ask for God to take it away and he can't.

1:28:39🔗 Alyson Hannigan Now, what would you say to somebody who says, well, I know I need help, but I'm afraid to, you know, find it because if they can't fix me, I don't want to know.

1:28:50🔗 Drew Eventually, they get sick enough that they have to get help.

1:28:53🔗 Alyson Hannigan So you really can't, I mean, they have to do it for themselves.

1:28:57🔗 Adam Paul, did you take care of that brother of yours?

1:28:59🔗 Yeah. Yeah.

1:29:01🔗 Adam He's Beelzebub, that kid.

1:29:03🔗 What's that?

1:29:04🔗 Adam Okay. So you're all right now?

1:29:06🔗 Yeah.

1:29:07🔗 Adam You are?

1:29:07🔗 Yeah. My mom just came out on a trip.

1:29:10🔗 Adam Okay. Take care of her. Take care of yourself. If you need the pharmaceuticals, take those.

1:29:15🔗 Well, anyway, what I want to say to Dr. Drew is that about how to find courage. I think definitely a lot of it has to do with the way that what we put in our body. I think that some of the drugs that we use for manned depression are treating the symptoms and not the cause. Because I was totally malnutritioned my whole life. And the doctor said that I was, you know, manned depressive. I ate nothing but cold cereal and milk, you know? Right.

1:29:42🔗 Adam Well, listen, I'm with you on this one. I know Drew isn't. But listen, if you got some kid who's having physical problems or emotional problems, and he's living off a steady diet of Pepsi and corn dogs, it certainly couldn't help. It couldn't hurt, I should say, to balance a kid's diet out.

1:29:58🔗 Drew Of course. Of course.

1:29:59🔗 Adam You do?

1:30:00🔗 Drew Of course. Especially, listen, people with bipolar illness have a very delicate chemistry, and even a cold can set them off. So of course, nutrition can really set them off too.

1:30:08🔗 Adam Kate?

1:30:09🔗 Caller Yeah, hi.

1:30:09🔗 Adam You're 28.

1:30:10🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:30:11🔗 Adam What's going on there?

1:30:12🔗 Caller I'm kind of confused.

1:30:14🔗 Adam Oh, hearing the little girl voice at 28.

1:30:17🔗 Caller Yeah. I'm kind of also nervous about being on the radio. My voice gets high a little there, but I have a high voice in general.

1:30:24🔗 Drew It's not a high voice. It sounds like a real young voice.

1:30:27🔗 Adam No, no. Keep going.

1:30:28🔗 Caller Okay.

1:30:29🔗 Drew What's going on?

1:30:30🔗 Caller Well, I've been going out with my boyfriend for about a year, and recently I became interested, and I've always thought I was completely heterosexual up till now. I became interested in a woman, and so-

1:30:46🔗 Drew How did that happen?

1:30:48🔗 Caller I met her, and we kissed by accident, or I don't know if it's accident, we just kissed.

1:30:55🔗 Alyson Hannigan They fell into each other.

1:30:56🔗 Drew Oh, yeah.

1:30:57🔗 Adam How many guys did you kiss by accident, Drew?

1:30:59🔗 Drew Oh, it happens all the time.

1:31:01🔗 Adam I put my tongue in Dooley's mouth a couple of nights ago because I tripped on a mic cord in there and just landed on his pucker.

1:31:09🔗 Drew And that's funny.

1:31:10🔗 Adam Why?

1:31:11🔗 Caller Maybe I should say spontaneously.

1:31:13🔗 Adam Okay. Is this Cindy Lauper?

1:31:15🔗 Caller Excuse me?

1:31:16🔗 Adam Okay.

1:31:17🔗 Caller Maybe I should say some spontaneously. Right. And then I started thinking about it and then I really wanted to try it, experiment with her. And we did and I loved it. It was really great.

1:31:34🔗 Adam You want to do a little gambling? There's not much time left.

1:31:36🔗 Drew I don't mean dollars. I had told you.

1:31:38🔗 Adam Oh, okay.

1:31:42🔗 Drew I would bet on wholesale chaos. Real chaos when she was younger.

1:31:46🔗 Caller Real chaos? Well, I listen to the show and anytime someone's doing that, it's usually to sabotage a relationship or something. But that's usually with younger people than me, even though they probably sound older.

1:31:57🔗 Adam So you're just like in a rested state?

1:31:59🔗 Caller Yeah, but it just feels like...

1:32:02🔗 Adam Okay.

1:32:02🔗 Caller It feels like bisexuality.

1:32:04🔗 Adam Maybe that's the angle. Do you have any kids?

1:32:06🔗 Caller No.

1:32:08🔗 Adam Oh, that's good. Why not? You can't have kids?

1:32:10🔗 Caller No, but I'm certainly not going to have them from experimenting with girls. I kind of wait till...

1:32:15🔗 Adam Oh, but you never got pregnant before?

1:32:16🔗 Caller No way. No way. I used to do production.

1:32:19🔗 Caller Wow.

1:32:20🔗 Adam That's an interesting wrinkle. You all right? Is your family okay? Anyone ever doing anything weird to you? No.

1:32:26🔗 Caller They're... Never.

1:32:28🔗 Adam Never. Family's good?

1:32:29🔗 Caller Family's good, yeah. My family.

1:32:31🔗 Adam Okay. That's your family?

1:32:33🔗 Caller Yeah. It's my family.

1:32:33🔗 Adam Okay. Sometimes there's confusion. Like about a neighbor's family or something like that. All right. Well, it sounds like you're done with this relationship with the guy.

1:32:42🔗 Caller Well, I like him. I'm more committed to him.

1:32:45🔗 Adam Right.

1:32:46🔗 Drew How much commitment can you have if you're cheating on him?

1:32:48🔗 Caller Well, he knows about it.

1:32:50🔗 Adam Oh, OK.

1:32:51🔗 Drew What does he think?

1:32:52🔗 Caller Well, I asked him before he did anything because I didn't want to, you know, if he had a problem with it, he said, well, if it's, you know, if you're having these feelings, you know.

1:33:01🔗 Drew It sounds like you're you may be lesbian and you really should.

1:33:04🔗 Caller But I'm more attracted to him. I'm more attracted to men.

1:33:07🔗 Adam All right. But if it's marginal, the relationship's still in trouble.

1:33:11🔗 Drew The relationship is in trouble just by the fact that you're cheating. So something's not right here.

1:33:15🔗 Alyson Hannigan Ask him to put on a wig and if he'd like it better.

1:33:18🔗 Adam And to shave downstairs.

1:33:20🔗 Drew I just think that she ought to be single right now and be figuring out these.

1:33:25🔗 Adam I'm with you on that.

1:33:26🔗 Drew These fields.

1:33:27🔗 Adam Nicky's 20. How would a death in the family affect dating?

1:33:32🔗 Caller Hi.

1:33:32🔗 Adam Hey. Well, like who died?

1:33:36🔗 Caller My mom passed away.

1:33:37🔗 Adam When was that?

1:33:39🔗 Caller March of 95.

1:33:41🔗 Drew It could still affect you. Especially if you haven't sort of done the proper grief.

1:33:44🔗 Adam I think it's better than dad dying though. In terms of your dating.

1:33:49🔗 Caller I had a much better relationship with my mom. And I was closer to her. I lived with her.

1:33:53🔗 Alyson Hannigan She, cause my parents divorced.

1:33:55🔗 Adam Still, it's not good, but for some reason, your dad symbolizes or your relationship symbolized dad. And when dad dies, that can be tough.

1:34:05🔗 Drew Well, look, any major loss.

1:34:06🔗 Adam This can be tough too.

1:34:07🔗 Drew Any major loss certainly opens your vulnerability, makes it difficult to.

1:34:11🔗 Adam This may be worse in general, but not for dating. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying it's worse overall, but not specific for dating.

1:34:19🔗 Drew Okay.

1:34:19🔗 Adam Yeah. So Nikki, why? You having trouble?

1:34:24🔗 Caller I've never had a serious relationship, but I was just wondering how it really affects a person's character and personality.

1:34:31🔗 Drew Well, how many years ago?

1:34:33🔗 Adam Three years.

1:34:34🔗 Caller A little over three.

1:34:34🔗 Drew You were already 17 then. I mean, you're...

1:34:38🔗 Adam Developed.

1:34:39🔗 Drew Yeah, a character contract was pretty much in place. I mean, you sound kind of depressed right now.

1:34:43🔗 Caller No.

1:34:44🔗 Drew You're not depressed?

1:34:45🔗 Caller I was just curious.

1:34:46🔗 Drew You haven't been depressed at all since...

1:34:47🔗 Caller Oh, yeah.

1:34:49🔗 Caller I mean, that comes with it. You go up and down, you know.

1:34:52🔗 Drew Yeah, but you sound depressed. And it's more depressed than you should be three years out if you were grieving properly. I mean, you may just have some difficulty, some abnormal grief going on here.

1:35:04🔗 Adam Good luck. Carolyn is 15. She had a question for Alyson.

1:35:08🔗 Drew We don't have any time.

1:35:09🔗 Adam I know. She heard a rumor that you're leaving the show after this season. Is that true?

1:35:13🔗 Alyson Hannigan No.

1:35:13🔗 Adam But she was nodding her head yes. You see that, Drew?

1:35:16🔗 Drew I missed that.

1:35:16🔗 Alyson Hannigan Not if I can help it.

1:35:17🔗 OK. Man turns animal for the erotic pleasures of women.

1:35:36🔗 It's Love Line.

1:35:37🔗 Adam Alright. Pearl of wisdom. Allison, thank you very much. Thank you, guys. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Tuesday nights, 8 o'clock, WB. And Monday nights at 9 o'clock for the time being. Thank you very much. Thank you. So until next time, it's Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew, saying mahalo.

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