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Voiceover
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Voiceover
Losing her discretion. Now, here's Loveline.
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Voiceover
1-800-LOVE-191.
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With Dr. Drew and Adam Carolla.
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Voiceover
What are you insane?
0:17
Adam
Hey, yes, it is Loveline. I'm always surprised when the show starts. Even though it starts at 10 every night, I've been here for three years. Phone number for Loveline, 1-800-L-O-V-E-191. Facts number 310-854-4455. Dr. Drew is over there. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. Although he's not technically over there tonight because he's a little further over on the phone. Speaking to the hospital, no doubt. Anyway, they might be Giants are our guests tonight. I know they're both Johns. I don't know which John's which.
0:49
They Might Be Giants
This is John Lennel over here.
0:51
Adam
Ah, and Flansburg is in...
0:53
They Might Be Giants
John Flansburg on the working mic over here.
0:55
Adam
In the front.
0:55
They Might Be Giants
I'm on the broken mic.
0:57
Adam
Let's... Let me tell you, I'm gonna come clean and tell you tell you all I know about They Might Be Giants. I think of you guys as a smart band because you... It's like Schoolhouse Rock, half of your songs, singing about Adams and putting things together and how the sun works and that kind of thing. Right, right, right. Always thought you were a cool band. I've never seen you live.
1:22
They Might Be Giants
Well, we're playing on Friday. Come on down.
1:24
Adam
I'm gonna be in Chicago. Are you playing in Chicago?
1:27
They Might Be Giants
We're playing in Chicago soon, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're playing everywhere. We're on the road for a month and a half. We're gonna be playing every major city in the United States.
1:34
Adam
Well, you're doing San Fran tomorrow night. And House of Blues out here in LA on Friday and then the Coach House on Saturday, which is, I guess, in San Juan Capistrano.
1:43
They Might Be Giants
Yes.
1:44
Adam
And then it's all over.
1:46
They Might Be Giants
Yes.
1:46
They Might Be Giants
All over the place. Plus, we have a live album if people really can't get out to see us.
1:50
They Might Be Giants
For the shut-ins out there.
1:52
Adam
That, Severe Tire Damage is the name of it. And what number album is this for you guys?
1:57
They Might Be Giants
This is, that's our 100th album. We are celebrating our 100th release. We're like the Steve.
2:02
Adam
Which different album is this? I know you've got 100 copies of this one.
2:06
They Might Be Giants
No, no, no. It's like, it's our like 7th album or something like that. That's 7th or 8th album.
2:11
Adam
And you counted this one even though it's a compilation cause there's some new, there's some new work on here too. And how many new songs? So Dr. Worm and?
2:19
They Might Be Giants
Dr. Worm is the single and video off the record and there's about four other brand new songs. And then there's, you know, sort of a survey of our whole recording career. A bunch of songs from our very earliest to our most recent records.
2:33
Adam
And I was talking to your record rep and it was interesting. She or he, can remember which one I was talking to. Okay. It put it a very interesting way, which is a lot of these songs you've been playing for years, you've been working it out on the road and I guess they evolve.
2:50
They Might Be Giants
Yes.
2:50
Adam
And so you're not exactly finishing with the same product you started with. That's right.
2:55
They Might Be Giants
Some of them sound very different from the recorded version. Some of the recorded versions were done with drum machines and synths. And this is a live band, so it's a really different sound.
3:05
Adam
Now, I don't know what the name of the song is. And I don't even know if it was by one of you guys or They Might Be Giants. But what song is Don't, Don't, Don't Let It Die?
3:14
They Might Be Giants
That's us. Same as the Giants. It was both of you. That was our very first song.
3:18
Adam
That's a great song.
3:19
They Might Be Giants
Well, thank you.
3:20
Adam
Is that on here?
3:21
They Might Be Giants
I pray not.
3:21
Adam
Oh, for Christ's sake. Both of you, get out of my sight.
3:24
They Might Be Giants
You can buy it.
3:27
They Might Be Giants
It's available on a record. Yeah.
3:28
Adam
It'd be like a stairway to heaven, not being on a Led Zeppelin compilation.
3:32
They Might Be Giants
Well, wait for the second live album.
3:34
Adam
Now, why isn't that song on there? Do you play that song live?
3:36
They Might Be Giants
We do.
3:37
They Might Be Giants
Yeah.
3:37
Adam
I love that song.
3:38
They Might Be Giants
Can't we just put you directly through to the record company so you can just spank us simultaneously?
3:44
Adam
Do you record a couple of shows and then?
3:46
They Might Be Giants
Yeah. We were actually recorded. Well, we did this one thing for the Spin Radio Network a couple of years ago that just kind of captured. The band had been playing. We'd been on the road for a couple of months and everything was really together. We just happened to luck out and get a really great recording of the band. That was really the beginning of the idea that we could actually do a live record. Because we had done some live recordings and they were all sort of huffing and puffing, and they were good shows, but they just weren't great recordings and this thing turned out really well. We just started working on compiling other songs and we recorded a couple of versions of John Lett's Star, but they just weren't as excellent as they should have been.
4:28
They Might Be Giants
They weren't up to our high standards.
4:29
Adam
Yeah, but it's such a good song. I really love that song.
4:33
They Might Be Giants
Why?
4:34
They Might Be Giants
We agree.
4:34
They Might Be Giants
Severe Tire Orange No. 2 will be out in 2003 probably.
4:38
Adam
Now, John, I'm reading through the They Might Be Giants fact sheet. There's some interesting things on here such as multiple appearances on Conan and Letterman and Tonight Show. I've caught you guys on that a few times.
4:53
They Might Be Giants
I like the way you said John. Was that like both of us?
4:56
Adam
No, I was getting to John Flansburg who you directed to Ben Fold's Five Video, Soul Coughing, Edwin Collins.
5:04
They Might Be Giants
Yeah.
5:05
Adam
That's cool. You've done one of your own videos or do you do them all?
5:11
They Might Be Giants
Well, we started out doing videos with a guy named Adam Bernstein, who's like since become a movie director, but we would collaborate with him, but he was the real live director and that was kind of an apprenticeship for me.
5:24
Adam
Right.
5:24
They Might Be Giants
But I would build the props and he would point me in the direction to put them.
5:29
Adam
And what is your, I'll ask this to both of you and you can both jump in, you seem like intelligent guys. Did you meet in college?
5:38
They Might Be Giants
We're regular guys. I'm an art school graduate, you know, it's not that hard to get through art school.
5:45
Adam
It's hard for me to get through anything that has school at the end of it. Well, yeah, but you know, bartending school, traffic school, anything that has school at the end of it.
5:53
They Might Be Giants
Bartending school, that's something that we understand.
5:56
They Might Be Giants
I think that we're not particularly smarter than other bands. I think this is the thing about a lot of bands, which is that it's considered uncool to be smart, be normal, you know, like you dumb yourself down for the rock.
6:08
Adam
Right, that's what I do every night.
6:10
They Might Be Giants
We kind of failed to do that, I guess, is what it is.
6:12
Adam
Yeah, but although we have had many people sit where you guys are sitting and they are in fact stupid.
6:18
They Might Be Giants
Uh-huh, okay.
6:19
Adam
There's some that play stupid and then some that live it.
6:21
They Might Be Giants
That would explain the rule here.
6:23
Adam
Right, that's why we have the trough system underneath the microphones. All right, there's also a lot of heavy drinking going on in this show mostly because most the bands start drinking about 9.30 or 10 o'clock religiously no matter where they are and especially if they're from just flowing from England or New York or something. Right. In this case, it's God knows what time to them. So there's a few guys, you know, feel free to get loaded. That's what I'm saying. Okay, thank you. Drew, did you bring the booze? No. No. All right, you ready to get going? Yeah. Is there anything we're missing? You're not doing Oprah?
6:56
Drew
No, I'm not going to do it.
6:57
Adam
All right. So you're wasting everyone's time tomorrow night?
7:00
Drew
I don't know. They never tell you why not.
7:01
Adam
He doesn't like black people. That's what he said off the air. But wow, did they?
7:05
Drew
Of course not.
7:08
Adam
Kathy.
7:09
Yes. Hi, Adam.
7:10
Adam
Yes, you're 37.
7:11
Caller
Yes, I am, unfortunately. They Might Be Giants. Big fan for you. They just bought your live album. You're playing a lot on FNX.
7:19
They Might Be Giants
Right, right. Calling from Boston.
7:22
Caller
You're from the Linn area, right?
7:24
They Might Be Giants
We worked with people from the western suburbs of Boston. We worked with somebody from Brooklyn. Lincoln, Mass.
7:31
Caller
Okay, I knew you were from up here. Yeah. Drew and Adam love your show, love everything that you do, agree with about 100 percent of everything you say.
7:40
Adam
That's a fairly good compromise.
7:42
Caller
Thank you.
7:43
Caller
Almost 100. The only thing I just wanted to offer a different perspective. I got married when I was 19, had my first child when I was 20. Unplanned, my husband and I met in college, fell in love, had our first child and of course...
8:01
Drew
You've already said something that takes you away from 90 percent of our listeners.
8:05
Caller
I finished college.
8:06
Drew
Right.
8:07
Caller
And I know most of your listeners, I think, are coming from a different world. But I just wanted to offer a little ray of hope for anyone who may be young facing that decision. If you really are involved, if you really are committed, it can work out.
8:25
Drew
Let's examine that a second, Kathy. I mean, what other sorts of things can people look at in helping determine whether or not this is a good time and a good decision? In other words, to me, what comes to mind is, something we've already mentioned, that you're both well on your way to pursuing some sort of productive life, right? You're both in college. When it says that, too, I would think looking at both your family systems, where you came from, were they stable, were they solid? Is it a good, is it a good template for something? I mean, are you guys just acting something out and escaping to get married? Are you getting married because you're healthy and you've met somebody and you're making a decent choice?
9:00
Caller
Right. Well, I think you do definitely need a support network. If you have, if you have no one to support you, that is going to be very difficult. And luckily, my parents were very supportive, insisted that we both finish school. And that's what made all the difference in the world.
9:16
Adam
To be fair to Cathy, to be fair to most of our listeners, I think they look at the federal government as sort of a large family, large support network there. And in a way it is. I put a few dollars aside each paycheck that goes toward God knows who, God knows where, having God knows what. But that is how most of our listeners look at, look at their extended family, look at the government as their extended family.
9:40
Caller
Cathy? All right.
9:41
Adam
So it worked out for you. Your kid's old now. Yeah. You're 37.
9:45
Caller
We're going to college, as a matter of fact, next year.
9:47
Drew
At 37? That's incredible.
9:50
Caller
She's looking at Princeton and Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, very bright girl. So it can work. And I just wanted to offer a little different perspective. And I think this is great that they might be Giants around. We've been such fans for years. It's just great to talk to you guys.
10:04
All right.
10:05
Caller
Thanks.
10:06
Adam
Thanks Cathy.
10:07
Caller
Thank you.
10:07
Drew
You remember Cornell.
10:08
Thanks.
10:09
Adam
I remember when I got out of college, I was looking at many universities.
10:12
Drew
No, but you and I walked that hill of the Cornell, looking for the gym there, remember?
10:16
Oh, we did?
10:17
Drew
I guess that was in Ithaca.
10:18
Adam
In Ithaca?
10:19
Yeah.
10:19
Adam
Was Cornell near Ithaca?
10:21
They Might Be Giants
Cornell is in Ithaca.
10:22
Adam
Drew loves the colleges. For me, it'd be like going to like, I don't know, a tortilla factory or something, what it's like for Drew going to a university.
10:32
Drew
I think it's almost the strip, to take us to tour strip places for you.
10:35
Adam
Yeah, it'd be like if there are these huge strip clubs that took up acres and acres and had like a football team and a library and we could just walk through the hallowed halls of these places and look at strippers present and future. Flint Publishing, thanks, Ann. Yeah, that would be a good analogy. Dan.
10:58
Caller
Yeah, I'd like to thank you for the compliment you made at the end of our conversation on last night's show.
11:07
Drew
Remember Dan?
11:08
Adam
No.
11:09
Drew
Dan has the muscular dystrophy and the spastic paraparous. Right.
11:14
Caller
You took the time and prayed and thank God that there wasn't a lot more people that had to deal with this disease.
11:22
Adam
Yeah, I know I'd be pissed if I were you though about that.
11:25
Caller
I mean, yeah that really made me feel a lot better about myself. And Dr. Drew called my urologist and explained my concern.
11:37
Yeah.
11:38
Caller
And he says, well, I've got an opening Monday morning. You can come in at 9.15 and I have various medications and I have one that will work perfect for you.
11:54
Caller
Good.
11:56
Caller
So I'd like to thank you guys on that. Great.
11:59
Drew
This is Dan who was having retrograde ejaculation.
12:02
Adam
Yeah, Dan called in at the beginning of the show last night. That's why I was a little bit confused when he said the end of the show. It's kind of funny when the urologist says he has an opening. I don't know why, but you picture the actual end of the penis in the urethra.
12:14
Drew
That's nice.
12:14
Adam
When a proctologist says he's got an opening, that's good for a chuckle, isn't it?
12:20
Caller
I have a compliment about masturbation.
12:23
Drew
A compliment? All right, Dan.
12:24
Caller
All right.
12:25
Adam
Not that I need any persuading. I'm doing it anyway.
12:29
Caller
Yes. I love the way you make masturbation seem that it's not shameful when you're in a group of guys and you got one macho jerk trying to say, hey, well, I never masturbated. Hey, that's like saying I got an itch and never scratched it.
12:48
Adam
That's right. Hey, that's good.
12:49
Caller
That's a solid analogy. I'd rather take and put on a rubber glove and have safe sex at home than go out to a bar and pick up some woman that's so loaded she's comatose, take her out in the car, hammer away with her, come home, find my penis on fire the next morning and wind up with HIV. That's shameful, not masturbation.
13:15
Adam
All right, Dan, God bless you.
13:19
Drew
Dan's great.
13:21
Adam
Dan, what is his affliction?
13:23
Drew
Muscular dystrophy and then he's got spastic paraparous in both of the legs.
13:27
Adam
Why do they gotta call it paraparous? Why do they say it twice?
13:29
Drew
Well, I was thinking about this this morning. You've heard of parasthesia.
13:34
Adam
It's part of France. Where's parasthesia?
13:36
Drew
What is the word that you have heard of?
13:37
Adam
If you guys know parasthesia?
13:39
They Might Be Giants
Don't look at us.
13:40
Adam
You guys are the smart band.
13:41
They Might Be Giants
You said the word analogy.
13:42
Drew
All right. Anyway, it's basically, legs are basically locked out like this. That's spastic paraparous.
13:46
Adam
Yeah, but why the paraparous? Why not just spastic?
13:49
Drew
Both sides.
13:50
Adam
Oh, so he's got a paraparous?
13:51
Yes.
13:52
Adam
Oh, please.
13:53
Drew
Quadriparous would be?
13:55
Adam
All four? Yeah. If your dog got it? Yeah. Okay. Let's move on.
13:59
Drew
And retrograde ejaculation is what he actually called about last night. We got in all kinds of stuff for them, though.
14:03
Adam
Mike, he's essentially confined to a wheelchair and he's worried about his ejaculation and he's having an orgasm, but nothing's coming out. And that's what the retrograde ejaculation is. You sort of go into yourself. If you had a eggs, you'd get pregnant, right, Drew? All right then.
14:23
Drew
In your bladder.
14:24
Adam
Right.
14:25
Drew
If you had them in your bladder.
14:26
Adam
Mikey, Sophie ate eggs that morning.
14:28
Drew
Now wait a minute, you've been onto something here. They've always been trying to figure out a way to get males to have kids.
14:32
Adam
It's another Burt Reynolds movie idea, or actually it was Schwarzenegger. Mikey?
14:38
Caller
Hey.
14:39
Adam
What's going on? You're 14, you're on with They Might Be Giants.
14:41
Caller
Oh my God, I can't believe it. I've been trying to do this for the longest time. First of all, trying to get into Loveline just to say hi. And man, I can't believe this. Anyways, first of all, I want to say Adam, Dr. Drew, you guys are the men. The men?
14:55
Caller
Yeah, the men.
14:56
Caller
Together the men. I met you guys a long time back at, what was it, Camp Kilami 2.
15:01
Oh wow.
15:02
Caller
I don't know if you remember it or anything. No kidding.
15:04
Yeah, I remember.
15:06
Caller
But it was really cool to meet you guys. And they might be giants. Is it John and Jonathan?
15:11
They Might Be Giants
That's right.
15:12
Caller
I just want to say I'm a huge fan of you guys.
15:14
They Might Be Giants
All right, how big?
15:15
Caller
And that I'm actually seeing you guys in concert tomorrow night.
15:18
They Might Be Giants
Oh, great, great.
15:19
Caller
Yeah. And I got a question for you guys. I'm just baffled by like your lyrics and everything. I'm amazed at how you guys just come up with crazy stuff. And I'm wondering, is there do you have any trick to that?
15:32
They Might Be Giants
I mean, yeah, well, we we actually have the trick right here in front of us. We drink lots of coffee. That is that that is the seriously that is the that's the method.
15:43
Adam
Do you find you get punchy at late at night when you're drinking a lot of coffee?
15:48
They Might Be Giants
I think tonight might be one of those nights.
15:50
They Might Be Giants
Yeah. We got really good arguments going to. That's right.
15:53
They Might Be Giants
With ourselves. Start interrupting ourselves to contradict ourselves.
15:59
Caller
I'm also wondering, do you guys, I mean, I know that Lincoln was opening for you guys earlier this year. Who's opening for you guys this now?
16:06
They Might Be Giants
This guy named Michael Shelley. He actually was a DJ on WFMU in New York City, which is one of the few sort of freeform radio stations around. He actually is a songwriter as well and we heard his record and it was kind of a great pop record sort of in a Brian Wilson kind of Nick Lowe vein. And he'll be opening for the entire two months. So we're out in the United States.
16:29
Adam
Where are you playing tomorrow night in San Francisco?
16:31
They Might Be Giants
The Fillmore.
16:32
Adam
Oh, that's cool. Never been there, but I've heard of it.
16:35
They Might Be Giants
Yeah.
16:35
Drew
Is it cool?
16:36
They Might Be Giants
Yeah. It's the-
16:37
Drew
Because the last three bands that Adam said that they go, oh no, it sucks. Remember?
16:41
Adam
No, that was the Cow Palace.
16:42
Drew
Oh, you're right.
16:44
They Might Be Giants
We had a good time at the Fillmore last time we were there.
16:46
They Might Be Giants
Yeah, right. The architecture is really compromised, but still standing.
16:49
Adam
Fillmore saw that big brother in the hole, and all that Jimi Hendrix and all that good stuff. Mikey?
16:56
They Might Be Giants
Yeah.
16:56
Adam
You weren't even born.
16:58
Drew
My parents weren't born.
17:00
Adam
What year were you born that's going to be fun?
17:01
Caller
When were your parents born?
17:02
1983.
17:03
Caller
You guys-
17:04
Adam
Great.
17:04
Drew
What year were your parents born?
17:05
Two years later.
17:06
Drew
What year were your parents born?
17:08
Caller
1947-49.
17:10
They Might Be Giants
We started the band in 1983.
17:13
Adam
Really?
17:13
They Might Be Giants
Yeah.
17:13
Adam
I started my carpet cleaning career in 1983.
17:16
Drew
It's really paid dividends.
17:19
Adam
Oh, that's beautiful. All right. Why don't we play a They Might Be Giants song? You want to do that, Drew?
17:28
Drew
How about Bird House in Your Soul?
17:30
Adam
That's a great idea, Drew. Oh, They Might Be Giants. Hey, that sounds great. That really does sound good. I swear to God those horns sound great in that song.
20:40
They Might Be Giants
We got some practice in on that one.
20:42
Adam
Couldn't have done, don't, don't, don't let us.
20:45
They Might Be Giants
We're saving it for volume two.
20:47
Adam
Could you imagine that, the horns going, Drew?
20:49
They Might Be Giants
Oh, yeah.
20:49
Adam
Don't, don't, don't, don't about it.
20:52
Drew
You really need to start a band, Adam. You do.
20:54
Adam
I'm going to start that and we're going to cover They Might Be Giants songs, the only the ones that didn't make it onto the best stuff.
20:59
They Might Be Giants
You know, I can say this on this show, there was a band, They Might Be Giants, early on in our career, like very early, right after we started, there was a band in New Jersey called They Might Be Vaginas that started.
21:14
Adam
They toured with the Dickies for a while, didn't they?
21:16
They Might Be Giants
Well, you know, it shocked us, but they were, they were a, They Might Be Giants tribute band. It was quite shocking. Yeah, because we, you know, we liked it, you know, we're, it's a family show, you know.
21:26
They Might Be Giants
And they felt they were on our side.
21:28
They Might Be Giants
Yeah, they were helping.
21:30
Adam
Oh, really?
21:30
They Might Be Giants
Oh, yeah.
21:31
Adam
And you sent, you sent your team of lawyers over there.
21:33
They Might Be Giants
Yeah, a seasoned dissest order, right?
21:35
Adam
The lawyers showed up first, and then the longshoremen came by next with broken off hool queues.
21:41
Drew
You know, as soon as anybody starts doing anything offensive, they start thinking of that dog and the Gainsburger and the pill scenario. Well, we're just, we're just, Drew? Giving people what they want.
21:49
Adam
I'm going to let you rethink that whole statement over there. And then when we come back, you can put it in some context. Because I don't know what you're talking about. All right, but save the just for me stuff off the air. Well, we're by the Coke.
22:00
Drew
Are we on the air now?
22:02
Adam
No, we're not. We're going to commercial. They might be Giants. They'll be back. I'll be back. We'll see if Drew has a little attitude change. He might be back as well.
22:12
Caller
Loveline's phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191. With Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew, we'll be right back.
22:29
Caller
We're not keeping you up, are we?
22:31
Caller
I'm pitching a tent.
22:32
Caller
Oh, that's good. It's Loveline.
22:44
Adam
Yeah, yeah. It was post-Skinner pre-Speedwagon, I think would be...
22:50
They Might Be Giants
Speedwagon epoch had not yet dawned.
22:53
Adam
The band UFO, which apparently, I'm the only one who's aware of that. John's lights out.
23:00
They Might Be Giants
I worked on a record store where we had all the UFO records. Yeah.
23:04
Adam
Yeah, the live one with the lights out, Chicago.
23:07
Thank you. Good night.
23:10
Caller
Yeah.
23:10
Adam
Hey, Brett, go find a UFO CD. No, there wouldn't be one. Is there one here?
23:14
Caller
Yeah.
23:15
They Might Be Giants
I think there's actually a cultural boycott on it.
23:19
Adam
I swear to God, I love walking around my underpants, listening to like Boston and UFO in my house, just playing air mop. I've switched from the... I don't actually call it air guitar anymore.
23:30
Drew
It's just a mop.
23:31
Adam
It's called spade to spade. It's a mop. They Might Be Giants are here in studio today. They are, I should say, tonight. They have a few dates coming up. San Francisco tomorrow. House of Blues out here in LA on Friday. And then Coach House.
23:45
They Might Be Giants
We really want to hammer on that Coach House show there in San Juan Capistrano.
23:49
Drew
It's a tiny little place.
23:49
They Might Be Giants
Yeah, it's a tiny little place. We want it to be full of people.
23:52
Drew
It must already be. They're probably sitting there waiting right now.
23:55
They Might Be Giants
It's a very unusual place.
23:56
Drew
Very small.
23:57
They Might Be Giants
Sit down place.
23:59
Adam
I've never been there. I know it's about halfway between here and San Diego.
24:05
They Might Be Giants
That's exactly right.
24:06
Adam
And a lot of big acts play there and have always played there over the years and they seem to do all right. So I imagine people just get in their cars.
24:13
They Might Be Giants
It's a fun show. It's a really fun show. It's a fun place to do a show. You know, it's very...
24:16
They Might Be Giants
It's like dinner theater.
24:17
They Might Be Giants
Yeah. I mean, it sort of calls on the band to do a different kind of show than you normally do because everybody's sitting down.
24:23
Adam
I was driving to Tijuana one night.
24:27
They Might Be Giants
No.
24:27
Adam
With a friend of mine.
24:28
They Might Be Giants
You?
24:28
Adam
Goes by the name of Snake. Back when I was 19 years old. And it was...
24:33
They Might Be Giants
Is he friends with Spoon?
24:35
Adam
No, but he knows Weasel. And me and Snake just... We just threw blankets in the back of his car. We're going to go to Tijuana. We had 20 bucks in our pocket. We're going to... It's about a two and a half hour drive from LA. And we're going to have ourselves a few drinks and TJ and then just sleep on the beach in Tijuana. We used to do that kind of junk all the time. But he had his stepmother's Mazda, old like 74 Mazda, and had four bald tires on. I mean, actually you could see belt on all four tires and no spare. And it one blew out in San Jose. I mean, San Juan. And we parked the car on the side of the freeway and we ran across the freeway and we slept on someone's lawn.
25:16
They Might Be Giants
Excellent.
25:17
Adam
And then the next day... You had UFO on the way.
25:19
They Might Be Giants
I was going to say, I thought somehow UFO playing at the coach house was going to come out.
25:24
Adam
We just stayed near the coach house on somebody's lawn. And then the next day, Snake said, well here's what we'll do. We'll buy a used tire for like $7 because we didn't have any money. We'll put it on ourselves. And I said, no, you can't put a tire on yourself. You can't put a tire on a rim yourself. You need a whole big, you know, pneumatic device. And then we got this huge argument. Oh yeah, I'll put it on. No, you won't. Yes, I will. Snake, they can't, you can't do that. And so the point is, is we put another bald tire on and drove into TJ. Actually, I would get it. Bought it. And they put it on. Yeah, I told them to put it on. Pay the extra three bucks. Save ourselves six hours.
26:07
Drew
You wonder why the wheels are coming off the wagon right now in this country.
26:11
Adam
Because of me and Snake driving to TJ?
26:12
Drew
Because of the precedent you set in your youth.
26:14
Adam
No, we were a mess. Don't ever do what I did. Yeah. Teresa.
26:18
Hi.
26:19
Adam
You're 23.
26:20
Caller
Yep.
26:21
Adam
What's going on?
26:22
Caller
Well, I had a baby five months ago, and I was a nursing nurse, so I decided to take that nursing pill. They call it the mini pill.
26:30
Drew
Yeah.
26:32
Caller
And two weeks ago, I took a pregnancy test, and it came up positive. And I'm wondering if I maybe got a false positive.
26:40
Drew
You certainly might have, but that's not very common. What? How long ago was the baby? I'm sorry.
26:46
Caller
Um, she was born in April.
26:48
Drew
So, like, five months ago.
26:49
Caller
Yeah, she's just barely five months ago.
26:51
Drew
And you've breastfed continuously, and you've been on the mini pill.
26:54
Caller
Yeah, I don't supplement at all. So.
26:57
Adam
Do you have any other kids?
26:58
Caller
Um, yeah.
27:00
Adam
I'm getting close to gambling on Teresa because she got that little girl voice.
27:04
Caller
Sure, what are you doing?
27:04
Caller
Yeah, everybody says I sound like I'm 12. Yeah.
27:08
Drew
There's a reason for that, Teresa.
27:10
Caller
No, I know.
27:11
Adam
All right. Hold on, Teresa. We got a gamble on your past. So you guys are going to enjoy this part of the show. Do you have any money on you?
27:17
They Might Be Giants
Yeah.
27:18
Adam
Yeah. Why don't you dig down deep into that life compilation.
27:22
They Might Be Giants
I only got these Vegas hundreds here.
27:26
Adam
Oh, for Christ's sake. I only got 20 bucks.
27:28
They Might Be Giants
Uh-huh. I got a five.
27:29
Adam
You got a five, Drew? Come on, float us, you cheap bastard. You? Yeah.
27:35
They Might Be Giants
What's the routine here?
27:36
Adam
I got change for my car.
27:36
Caller
I'll go get it during the break.
27:39
Adam
Here's the deal. I don't know why, but once in a while, we gamble on a caller. And what we gamble on is not what's going on with them today. I don't care what color they are, where they work, or who they're married to. It's what went on in their past. What brought them to where they are today? What was their childhood like? And there's a few things that always get us on the gambling role. One of them is the little girl voice. When I hear a woman who has a little girl voice, it usually means something happened to them a while ago. And they're trapped there.
28:15
Drew
And babies at a young age, multiple babies. That's a clue.
28:18
Adam
Right, right. So, we are going to try to figure out what's going on, what Teresa's past was basically.
28:23
Drew
What was her family like?
28:28
They Might Be Giants
What about the $5 I just put on the table?
28:31
Adam
You'll never see that again. But don't worry.
28:34
They Might Be Giants
I've got a sound man that works like this.
28:36
Adam
Severe Tire Damage is the name of the latest name of the Giants. There you go.
28:40
They Might Be Giants
Hey, it's Mr. Pinedagas.
28:41
Adam
There's the $5.
28:43
Caller
All right, Drew.
28:46
Drew
That's what I do.
28:46
Adam
I start making a little change. All right, Drew, why don't you go first and set an example.
28:51
Drew
We really were flying in very...
28:56
Adam
Uncharted waters.
28:57
Drew
I'm not in unclear water here because we don't know much. We don't know anything about her except we have a sense that there's something going on. So I'm going to have to just really give it a guess. And I'm going to say parents broke up when she was about two couple step dads who were moderately abusive. Somebody was an alcoholic addict and pretty kind of violent around her. And she started having kids at a young age, obviously, because of all this. I'm not sure there was any sexual abuse necessarily.
29:24
Adam
Very solid, John. Now, a decent bet sometimes is just go, no trauma, good family.
29:33
They Might Be Giants
No trauma. No Catholic upbringing.
29:35
Adam
Parents still together. Sometimes they don't admit to things.
29:38
They Might Be Giants
Don't know what I'm talking about. But the mini pill thing seems like, isn't that some kind of conscientious, like going to a doctor, taking the doctor's advice, getting it together? Could be 21 little girl voice because she's 5 feet tall.
29:55
Adam
Could be, could be. So, all right, why don't you go with no difficulties. Right, okay, nothing out of the ordinary.
30:02
They Might Be Giants
This reminds me of playing poker on the bus like 3 in the morning with our sound man, Monty, where he's like, hey, let me show you the magical effects. And then the money goes away.
30:09
Adam
Right.
30:10
They Might Be Giants
Okay, so, hey, it's been great.
30:13
Adam
We've heard just as much as you have.
30:15
They Might Be Giants
Okay.
30:15
Adam
And that's a solid guess because sometimes there is something and they don't admit it, in which case you win.
30:22
They Might Be Giants
That's right. And John's in for five.
30:23
Drew
So no, no, he gets changed.
30:25
Adam
No, he gets changed. Okay. All right. Out of my ass if I lose. All right, John.
30:29
They Might Be Giants
So I'm going to go with Drew on this. I don't know why. You can't go with Drew.
30:33
Drew
You got to make at least a little bit different.
30:34
They Might Be Giants
Really? Yeah.
30:35
They Might Be Giants
A little bit different.
30:36
Adam
Just go with alcohol or something.
30:38
Caller
God.
30:40
They Might Be Giants
I feel so soiled. Well, I think I'm going to stick with my brother, Mr. Flansburg here and say no trauma.
30:50
Adam
No, you can't do that either.
30:51
Drew
You have to have your own position.
30:52
Adam
You have to form your own opinion.
30:53
Caller
I don't know.
30:54
Adam
Shall I form one for you?
30:55
They Might Be Giants
Can I have my dollar back?
30:56
Adam
Just go with dad drank too much.
30:58
Drew
That's an easy one.
30:59
Adam
Everyone's dad who calls in the shows to watch. Okay. Dad was an alcoholic? Sure.
31:04
They Might Be Giants
That's reasonable.
31:07
Adam
Little girl voice. I'm sticking with that. So I'm going to go with...
31:10
Drew
There's been no sexual abuse. Put it on the table.
31:12
Adam
I'm going with some sexual abuse.
31:13
Drew
You get the whole...
31:14
Adam
I get the whole spectrum.
31:15
Drew
If I were you, I would go like some sort of pressure.
31:21
Adam
Not going. Just going sexual abuse.
31:23
Drew
Let me just say I think a reasonable one would be an 18-year-old boyfriend pressured her when she was like 12.
31:27
Adam
Solid. Yeah. Now something before that.
31:30
Caller
Teresa?
31:30
Drew
Yeah, because the parents broke up.
31:32
Caller
Hello.
31:32
Caller
All right.
31:33
Caller
Hi.
31:33
Adam
Tell us about your past and then we'll get to your current problems.
31:36
Caller
Oh, actually, my mom and dad are still together, and my dad didn't drink when I was born. He drank before, but they're really religious. I was a daddy's girl, and then I got married when I was 18, and I had really, really bad boyfriends before that. In fact, one beat me really bad.
31:57
Drew
How old were you when you started having sex?
32:00
Caller
I was 17.
32:03
Drew
Why would you seek out the abuse of boyfriends?
32:05
Caller
Well, I think just because I had no self-esteem.
32:08
Caller
Why?
32:09
Caller
My older brother told me I was ugly my whole life.
32:12
Adam
Well, I told my sister she was a fan her whole life, and she didn't kill herself until like six months ago.
32:19
Drew
Did he beat you up or anything, your older brother?
32:21
Caller
Yeah, we fought. I beat him up as much as he beat me up.
32:24
Drew
Did your dad do anything to you?
32:27
Caller
No, he spanked the pillow other than spanked me.
32:30
Drew
Did your parents, did you ever have an eating disorder or anything like that?
32:34
Caller
Your dad spanked the pillow?
32:37
Caller
I was anorexic before I got my first baby.
32:40
Adam
Isn't that an eating disorder? No doctor.
32:42
Drew
That's an eating disorder, Teresa. So what I'm getting towards here is your parents were real intrusive with you. I mean, your dad was not just doting upon you, he was sort of controlling and really involved in you in lots of ways, right?
32:56
Caller
Well, I don't know what you mean by that.
32:59
Drew
Very often kids have eating disorders or in families where the parents don't acknowledge you as a separate person, they act out all their own stuff on you and they need you to be what they need you to be rather than allowing you to be who you are.
33:10
Caller
Oh, I get what you're saying. No, actually what it was is I had an older sister that was really, really, really skinny and I'm not as tall as her, I'm only 5'6. And when I was like 13 years old, I weighed 98 pounds and I thought that was disgusting and I just knew.
33:26
Drew
No, there's a reason for that.
33:28
Adam
You're 5'6, you're 98 pounds, you're 13, you think that's disgusting, there's something going on. It's not because you have an older sister is on the volleyball team.
33:35
Drew
Your parents ever fought?
33:37
Caller
Huh?
33:37
Drew
Your parents fight a lot?
33:40
Caller
No, they would fight, but then they'd always.
33:44
Adam
All right, hold on one second. Let me talk to the boys here for a second. See, this is why the no problems is a good bet here because Teresa is a chock full of problems, but she's not really coming to any of them. She's got an eating disorder or had an eating disorder. She's had a couple of abusive, physically abusive boyfriends.
34:02
Drew
Married 18 kids.
34:04
Adam
Right, but yet she's kind of sticking with the parents are together, deeply religious, everything was good.
34:09
They Might Be Giants
I think I'm winning here.
34:10
They Might Be Giants
You guys are fighting for your money though, I know that.
34:13
Drew
Oh yeah.
34:14
They Might Be Giants
You're gonna work on Teresa.
34:15
Drew
No, well the point, the reason we do this is to try to teach people something. One of the things you can learn here is how intensive people's denial systems are. I mean, Teresa's telling us about all this pathology and everything's perfect.
34:26
They Might Be Giants
Everything's fine.
34:27
Drew
What's the big deal?
34:28
Adam
Yeah, well I had an eating disorder because I had a skinny sister.
34:31
They Might Be Giants
She doesn't say everything's perfect, but she's not going with the...
34:36
Adam
Don't use so much hyperbole here.
34:38
Caller
Okay, nothing's perfect with me right now though. I mean...
34:41
Drew
What's the problem now? Other than you may be pregnant again.
34:44
Caller
Yeah, that and then the fact that I was married at 18, so I feel like I never had my teenage years. I feel like I've been a mom longer than I was a teenager.
34:56
Drew
You have been.
34:57
Adam
How old is your husband?
34:59
Caller
He's 28 and he's a welder. I know you're going to love him.
35:03
Adam
He works around metal. Get out. Get out of the house tonight. Leave the children behind you. You can have others.
35:08
Drew
No, the kids.
35:09
Adam
Come on. She'll have others.
35:12
Caller
But yeah, he's not bad, but I think that my self-esteem when I got married could have been better and I could have done better.
35:21
Drew
Well, there's some reason you have all the self-esteem issues.
35:24
Caller
Well, I think it stems from the fact that I never thought I was good enough.
35:28
Drew
No, Teresa, there's something far more fundamentally going on.
35:31
Adam
You keep saying you, but something created you.
35:34
They Might Be Giants
Right.
35:35
Adam
Do you understand? You thought you were fat, you never thought you were good enough, but there was an environment that helped nurture you and they didn't do a good job.
35:45
Drew
It didn't help nurture you.
35:46
Caller
Could it be that I always wanted to be good enough for other people and the reactions that I got weren't, I mean, I'm a person that needs...
35:55
Drew
Here's a theory that people, right, children of narcissistic parents have to basically end up just, their whole life is about making everything okay for the parents, you're the caretaker of those parents and then you become the caretaker of everybody else too and now you're the caretaker in your family and you're always subjugating your own needs on behalf of your family. Here's what you got to do. You are a mom now. That's it. You are a mom now, but you have to find some way of retaining that responsibility, but at the same time taking care of yourself. You have these instincts that you need to go out and act on some of these teenage issues.
36:29
Adam
Don't talk back. Let Drew finish.
36:31
Drew
You can do that in ways that still maintain balance in your family and still maintain your priority as a mom.
36:39
Adam
It's getting surreal, Drew.
36:41
Drew
But you've got to be mom first and foremost and try to find ways to get to take care of yourself.
36:47
Caller
Are you playing baby music?
36:49
Adam
I don't know what the hell that was.
36:50
Caller
Can I say hey to the guys from They Might Be Giants? Hey, Teresa.
36:53
Caller
How are you doing?
36:54
Caller
I have a couple of your albums. I want to know why you never put pictures of yourself in there.
36:58
They Might Be Giants
Well, that's early trauma, I think.
37:01
They Might Be Giants
No, honestly, it's an interesting thing. We made videos which had our pictures in it, but I think basically we try to put the music out in the way that lets people's imaginations run wild.
37:14
Caller
You're Apollo 18, you guys are pretty trippy. What's up with mannequins and mechanical stuff?
37:21
Adam
Hey, Teresa, I hate to cut you off right now when we get a little momentum with the band, but we're going way long on this call. But let me just ask you one thing real quick. Your dad would spank the pillow instead of spank you.
37:33
Caller
Yeah, so I didn't have to get hurt.
37:36
Adam
Okay. I see. I think that may have just been a euphemism when he said he was going to go spank the pillow. I don't know if he was actually...
37:42
Drew
Did he do it in front of her?
37:45
Adam
I don't know.
37:46
They Might Be Giants
That can explain a lot.
37:47
Adam
When he really got pissed, the belt came off and he probably went after the sofa pillow at that point.
37:54
Caller
All right.
37:55
Adam
Now you see, we'll go to break and jeez, I don't know who won that one.
37:59
Drew
I think...
38:02
Adam
I like to think it was a push.
38:04
Drew
It was, but John was sort of in the right realm, which is denial, which is really the issue.
38:09
Adam
A ton of chaos.
38:10
They Might Be Giants
I didn't actually use the word denial, but I was feeling it.
38:13
Drew
But you were in that camp, and see, she had to at least get part of this.
38:16
Adam
All right. I think we'll take a break. We'll be... we'll divvy up the money during the break, fellas, and we'll be back with They Might Be Giants.
38:25
Caller
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38:34
Caller
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39:00
Drew
That's interesting, isn't it?
39:01
Adam
All right, wait a minute, we're hearing some UFO here. Did they get to the Lights Out Chicago part in this song? Oh, it's not the live version? Let's just listen to a little UFO for a minute. Now I'm in my underpants, scratching myself. Phone's ringing, but I can't hear it. Oh, it's heavy.
39:28
They Might Be Giants
Anarchy smells quite a bit.
39:30
Adam
Hey, don't you make fun of UFO. All right. I'll let you get the Lights Out London part on.
39:36
Good artwork.
39:37
Adam
Let's see if they set Lights Out Chicago. Yeah. All right. Thanks, Brian.
39:47
They Might Be Giants
That's when the lighting guy hits the lights and the audience goes, you guys ought to cover a little UFO.
39:53
Adam
I mean, with the horns and stuff.
39:54
They Might Be Giants
Maybe Salon Capistrana will bust into it.
39:57
Drew
Come on. We have an interesting discussion here.
39:59
They Might Be Giants
Bring it back.
40:00
Adam
What?
40:00
Drew
About guys being attracted to that little girl voice.
40:03
Adam
All right. We're here with They Might Be Giants.
40:06
They Might Be Giants
I mean, actually, my wife as a whole, she's really freaked out by women have the baby girl voice. I never heard this idea that it was like that.
40:19
Drew
Developmental delay.
40:20
They Might Be Giants
A developmental delay thing. I just thought it was more like a head trip in, welcome to my spiderweb, you know.
40:28
They Might Be Giants
It could be more like, I mean, there's all these women in Japan who talk like that. You know, it's very, very common in Japan.
40:35
Drew
You know what they do to their women there when they're growing up.
40:36
Adam
They bind their feet like Mrs. Livingston from the courtship of Eddie's father.
40:43
Drew
He's old enough for that too. But you made an interesting comment, which was that a lot of guys are attracted to that. And I would bet the guys that attracted that kind of voice are abusers.
40:54
Adam
I don't think it's some sort of chuckwagon bell going off or abusers, but...
40:59
Drew
Why not? We always wonder how the guys figure it out.
41:03
Adam
Well, here's the point. You can read voices just like some people can analyze handwriting. Drew and I, from listening to thousands of people a year, can sort of, guys and girls, can sort of tell where they're coming from based on the tone and the cadence and that kind of thing.
41:22
They Might Be Giants
If a guy calls up with a little girl's voice, what can you tell about them?
41:26
Adam
It means he's a pedophile.
41:28
They Might Be Giants
That's right. That's when you do the Dr. Lawrence. Why are you really calling?
41:32
They Might Be Giants
Right. You've got a little girl's voice. Why are you really calling?
41:35
They Might Be Giants
Let that little girl out.
41:36
Drew
We don't have to do that. We know why they're really calling.
41:38
Adam
Mark.
41:39
Caller
Yeah.
41:40
Adam
Hey.
41:40
Drew
What's going on, Mark?
41:42
Caller
Yeah.
41:43
Adam
All right.
41:44
Caller
I don't want to get into that.
41:44
Drew
No, no, no, no, no, no. Mark's got a problem here.
41:47
Adam
Well, that just goes to show I don't read the questions.
41:49
Drew
Yeah. Mark?
41:51
Yeah. I lived in New York until like a month ago. And then my parents moved out to Chicago. Well, actually we're in the suburbs, but. And I really hate it out here.
42:04
Drew
How long have you been there?
42:06
A month.
42:07
Drew
You miss your friends?
42:07
Three weeks or something.
42:08
Drew
You miss your friends?
42:10
Yeah. And my school and just New York. I mean, it's nice out here, but I like it a lot better in New York.
42:20
Drew
Think about it. You would have to leave all your delightful friends behind.
42:23
Adam
Oh, my menagerie of friends. Yeah.
42:26
Yeah.
42:26
Adam
Yeah, I'd be miserable.
42:28
Drew
Especially at that age, 14.
42:29
Adam
That was miserable anyway.
42:30
Drew
Yeah, but imagine trying to start, trying to muster the resource to try to start all over again, and live in a different part of the country.
42:37
Adam
No.
42:38
That's hard. And also like the school out here isn't as good as the school I went to in New York.
42:46
Adam
Well, that's good. That just means easier for you, right?
42:48
No, but I kind of feel like I'm being cheated out of an education.
42:51
Drew
Well, maybe your parents can change schools for next year or so.
42:53
Maybe I'm just being egotistical.
42:54
Adam
Well, you just watch more of the Discovery Channel. Thank God for it. I feel like I'm being cheated out of an education.
43:03
Drew
Hey, I know that wasn't popular when you were young.
43:05
Adam
Are you kidding? Yeah, we were like...
43:07
Drew
Thank God for kids like Mark.
43:08
Caller
Come on.
43:10
Adam
Oh, listen, all I did was doodle on a peachy folder my entire scholastic career. So what do I know? But Mark, you were a good student when you were in New York.
43:19
Yeah, pretty good.
43:20
Adam
All right. And can't you take honors classes over there in Chicago?
43:24
Yeah.
43:24
Drew
All right. There you go. There you go.
43:26
Yeah.
43:26
Drew
But Mark, you know, look, you've only been there a few weeks. This is like this reminds me of the Alan Sherman song or the kid writing back. Yeah. Right.
43:34
Adam
Hello, father. You know, is it Camp Granada?
43:36
Smoking marijuana.
43:39
Adam
There's a new verse. That's the remix to this letter.
43:43
Drew
But, you know, it just gives some time. Yeah, you got to give it time, Mark, because it's your reality now and you will find a way. It's just so hard. Everything's hard at your age.
43:51
Adam
Here's the beautiful part. You're going to turn 18 and like go off somewhere and be pissed that you have to leave all your friends in your life in Chicago.
43:58
Drew
Yeah. Chicago is a great town. We love Chicago.
44:00
Adam
As a matter of fact, we'll be there Friday after tomorrow and all I have to say.
44:05
I love Chicago too but it's like my brother always said, it's a good imitation.
44:10
Drew
Of New York?
44:10
They Might Be Giants
Oh no. It's totally different.
44:14
Drew
It's totally different than New York.
44:15
Adam
I love Chicago.
44:15
Drew
It's a spectacular town.
44:17
Adam
And you know what? I'll be singing on the airplane, Drew.
44:21
Drew
What?
44:21
Adam
Lights out, lights out Chicago.
44:25
Caller
Oh yeah.
44:27
Adam
Hi Mark. Mark will get over it. Chicago's not such a bad place. Nick.
44:31
Hey.
44:32
Adam
You're 30.
44:33
Caller
Yeah. How you doing?
44:34
Adam
Good.
44:34
Caller
Great. I just want to say Dr. Drew, Adam, you guys are fantastic.
44:37
Caller
Thanks.
44:38
Caller
And John and John, I've been a fan ever since you guys did that replacement thing.
44:42
All right.
44:43
Caller
Yeah. It takes a real band to play an accordion in public, I think.
44:46
Caller
Hey.
44:47
Not that hard.
44:48
Caller
So yeah, I'm down here in San Diego and you guys are going to play here?
44:50
They Might Be Giants
Yeah.
44:51
Caller
And I'm all excited about that.
44:52
Caller
Cool.
44:53
Caller
I'll be the one with the prosthetic forehead on my real head. My question is, have you guys ever toured with the Bare Naked Ladies or Moxie Froovus? That would be like my dream tour to see all three of you guys together. Oh, wow.
45:05
They Might Be Giants
You know, we have the same booking agent. We haven't, we've never done any shows with Bare Naked Ladies, but Moxie Froovus early on in their career did a show with us in Canada. That was a long time ago, though.
45:18
Adam
We had the Bare Naked Ladies on in here in studio, must have been three or four weeks ago. Nice guys.
45:26
They Might Be Giants
Yeah.
45:27
Adam
Big fan of that group.
45:28
They Might Be Giants
They've got a phenomenal hit right now.
45:30
Adam
Yeah, which is funny because it's probably their tenth best song, but they didn't play the nine before it. I mean, I'm glad they're getting airplay. And it's, hold on, let me just say something about the stupidity of radio stations for just one second. I know we're on about 60 of them and they make it pissed when I hear this, but the Bare Naked Ladies have been around for a number of years and had a number of very good songs which UA Holes never played. Now they have a song that's decent. It's all right. It's catchy. It's poppy. It's clever, but it's not. It's good.
46:02
They Might Be Giants
It's very immediate, though. It's got that hit. I mean, it's got that je ne sais hit thing about it.
46:08
Adam
People don't have to listen to it more than once to enjoy it. As a matter of fact, if you hear it too many times, you start to hate it, which is unlike a lot of their other stuff, which you like more and more as you hear it. But it always irks me when a band has a bunch of good songs and no one will touch them for years and then they come out with a sort of poppy. It's almost like they give in and go, hell, we got to get some radio play and everybody jumps at the bank.
46:30
They Might Be Giants
It wasn't like that. You know, it wasn't like that. It's like a very uncompromised, very... It's a song like theirs kind of songs.
46:36
Adam
I'm not saying they sold out or they all put their heads together and said how do we get on the radio. I don't blame Bare Naked Ladies at all. I blame the program directors around this country of ours who should have been playing many other Bare Naked Ladies songs before this one.
46:51
They Might Be Giants
Well, you know what we say, keep on rocking.
46:54
Adam
And I say lights out Chicago.
46:56
Yeah.
46:56
Adam
All right, we're going to go to break. We have They Might Be Giants in studio and we'll be right back.
47:02
Caller
Loveline be right back in a minute.
47:10
W-E-B-N.
47:14
Caller
Man turns animal for the erotic pleasures of women.
47:18
Caller
It's Loveline.
47:32
Adam
Made is Loveline. We're here with John and Jonathan from They Might Be Giants. Severe tire damage is the name of the new CD, and as per usual, we'll take our brief 10-second timeout. At the top of the arm, we'll be right back.
47:47
Caller
This is Loveline on Radio Station.
48:02
Adam
It is Loveline. They Might Be Giants is the name of the band who's in here tonight. John and Jonathan are both here, Drew, of course, and myself, Adam Corolla, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. You know, it's funny. We were just talking about the Barenaked Ladies. When the band came in here, and I was looking at their sort of best of CD, and I was asking about that song that wasn't on it, and we don't want to go retrace those footsteps.
48:29
They Might Be Giants
Don't Let's Start is the name of the song, available on our first album.
48:32
Adam
Great song.
48:33
They Might Be Giants
On Restless Records.
48:34
Adam
Really enjoy that song, and I thought, jeez, I hope that's on here and it wasn't, but that's all right. You can get on another one, and this is great anyway.
48:41
They Might Be Giants
Get all the records.
48:42
Drew
But you've always said that they always leave one off.
48:44
Adam
Now here's the funny thing. We were talking about the Bear Naked Ladies, and one of my, they were in here three or four weeks ago, and they have a live Best Of that came out about then, and they were plugging, and I said, oh great, because my favorite Bear Naked Ladies song is Alternative Girlfriend, and that was not on their Best Of live CD.
49:04
They Might Be Giants
So what you're trying to say is that there's actually a parallel universe.
49:08
Adam
Yes, between the Bear Naked Ladies and us.
49:10
They Might Be Giants
Well, we're still waiting for our lifetime achievement hit, which hasn't happened to us yet, so we're on a little delay.
49:17
They Might Be Giants
Right. But we're on a ten second delay.
49:20
Adam
Wouldn't you say that Alternative Girlfriend should be on the Bear Naked Ladies Best Of CD?
49:24
They Might Be Giants
I think we've played so many concerts where somebody says you didn't play our favorite song.
49:28
They Might Be Giants
Yeah, we just started.
49:28
They Might Be Giants
There's always somebody.
49:30
Drew
So it's not a deliberate attempt to try to make sure that certain numbers of kinds of records are sold.
49:38
They Might Be Giants
We're really against the contrarian thing that a lot of rock bands, we like to make our audience happy.
49:46
It's not like we're going to, we will not play that song because we were here to torture you.
49:52
They Might Be Giants
The one you love. There's another song off our very first record, just like Don't Let It Start, called She's An Angel, which we played for years and years and years. I mean, it's one of our best songs. We played it for 12 years straight at every show. And then at a certain point, it was just like, hey, this is getting to the Wayne Newton stage of like, we're going to be shaking people's hands in the audience as we're playing it. It just felt kind of wrong. And then we just started doing it again a couple of days ago, and it feels really great again.
50:23
Adam
It's like having sex with a girlfriend you met in an airport that you hadn't seen in five years.
50:29
They Might Be Giants
No, but it is great.
50:31
They Might Be Giants
Integrated and strange. No, it's actually pleasant.
50:37
Adam
Krista.
50:39
They Might Be Giants
Where's the love, man? I love love lines.
50:42
You know, where's the love?
50:43
Adam
We've got to change the name of this show.
50:44
Drew
Krista?
50:46
No, that's not what he meant.
50:46
Drew
Krista. It's got to be a real name.
50:49
There you are.
50:50
Drew
What's up?
50:51
Hi.
50:51
Adam
Hey, you're 12.
50:53
Caller
Yeah.
50:53
Adam
She's got a little girl for us.
50:56
Caller
Very good. How are you?
50:57
Caller
That's great. I just want to tell you guys, Adam and Drew, that you guys kick ass.
51:03
Adam
Thank you.
51:03
Caller
You're welcome.
51:05
Drew
She's that good?
51:06
Caller
Okay. My problem is my best friend, she got a boyfriend now.
51:13
Drew
Right?
51:14
Caller
Now, she's like, I'm kind of scared she's going to stop paying attention to me and everything.
51:18
Drew
She will. That's sort of normal behavior for somebody that age that gets a boyfriend. We hear about that all the time and it's painful. I think the best way to do is to let her know that you miss her and that you need her around and you want her around and see if you can get her to be a little more balanced. It's better for her if she doesn't sort of throw everything into the boyfriend. It's something that teenagers do.
51:38
Adam
It's hard to help when you're 12 or 13.
51:40
Drew
Yeah, it's something they do, but it's an unhealthy thing to do.
51:42
They Might Be Giants
But, I'm not a doctor, but you don't want to set yourself up between the boyfriend and you.
51:50
Drew
Do not make ultimatums.
51:51
They Might Be Giants
Yeah, make sure that it's like a collective thing.
51:54
Drew
No ultimatums, encourage balance, let her know how you feel and recognize this is normal behavior.
52:00
Adam
And if that doesn't work, have sex with him. I'm 12.
52:04
Drew
Thank you. God bless you, Krista. You're gonna be fine.
52:07
Adam
Just let him touch you then. No. Okay, good. I was just testing you. I was testing you. Very good. God bless you. Hang on to that virginity.
52:16
Drew
But let her know. Let her know how you feel.
52:17
Caller
Okay. All right.
52:18
Adam
All right, Krista. Take care. Yeah, I never, it's been so many years, but I remember that time when everyone was sort of breaking off the guys were off getting girlfriends, the girls were off getting boyfriends. And if you weren't going off and hooking up with somebody, you're alone. It was a pretty, pretty lonely time. That's when you turned in on yourself, right, Drew? It's a lot of time.
52:42
Drew
You've been in on yourself ever since.
52:46
Adam
That's when I started putting holes in the melon rinds and then putting them in the microwave to warm them up. You know, just a body temperature. You guys ever do that?
52:57
Drew
I wish you were on TV now.
52:58
Adam
Oh, man. I never did that. Yeah, please.
53:02
They Might Be Giants
We got this live album.
53:03
Adam
Yeah. Bob, Bob, talk to us. You're 14.
53:08
Caller
Yeah.
53:08
Adam
What's going on?
53:09
Caller
Okay. I just have like, oh, you're the dude from, you got the guy in there from They Might Be Giants, right?
53:17
Adam
Yeah, the guys. We got the guys.
53:19
Caller
Okay. I just want to say, Flood is your best album.
53:22
Caller
Thank you.
53:23
Caller
That is the coolest. I remember growing up with that.
53:25
Caller
Thank you.
53:26
Caller
Okay. And 14.
53:28
Adam
Back in the day.
53:29
Caller
Well, back in like 80s, late 80s.
53:32
Drew
When you were two?
53:33
Caller
Yeah. My mom used to play it all the time.
53:35
Caller
All right.
53:35
Drew
Oh, my gosh.
53:36
Caller
So I still like you guys now.
53:37
Caller
Excellent.
53:38
Drew
What's up?
53:39
Caller
I just got a question on like, how can you tell if you got a big schlong?
53:47
Caller
You've got one.
53:49
Caller
Well, I mean, it's like, what's average or?
53:52
Drew
There are parameters for development at your age in terms of what is and is not normal levels of development. And so there's probably some data out there what size is normal. But basically, you want to know, are you going to have a normal size or extra large or whatever? And you've got to wait till you're 18 to find that or 21, really, to find that out.
54:09
Caller
But is there's like no way?
54:10
Drew
No, there's no way to predict. You're 21, you measure yourself and that's what you got.
54:16
Caller
Okay. And also I got a question.
54:17
Adam
Well, there's a groundhog that climbs out of my ass every year about.
54:22
Drew
And if he sees the shadow of your sloth?
54:24
Adam
If he sees the shadow of my penis, that means it's going to be a short penis. Bob?
54:29
Drew
Penis is very dysfunctional.
54:31
Adam
How are you doing now? Are you okay? You seem about average.
54:35
Caller
I don't really know. I mean, but also I got a question. Like when you're like masturbating, or for me anyway, it's like when I'm with a girl, it gets like extra like huge. But when I'm like just masturbating or nothing, like trying to tie one off before I go out with a girlfriend or something, it's like it doesn't get as big. Is there like a reason for that or is that normal?
54:59
Drew
Bob?
55:00
Adam
Are you having sex, Bob?
55:02
Caller
No, not sex, oral and stuff.
55:04
Caller
Oh, my God.
55:05
Drew
How old are the girls? Huh? How old are the young ladies?
55:08
Caller
Same age.
55:09
Caller
Oh, my God.
55:10
Adam
Son of a bitch. I swear to God, I wasn't even thinking about oral sex at 14. You didn't know about it? I didn't know what it was. No, I didn't know that's possible. I was like just, you know, rubbing the beanbag chair and stuff like that. I didn't even know that was... I thought I'd die before that happened or I would die the first time it happened. You're 14 and you're getting oral sex from these girls?
55:33
Caller
Well, I've had it. Now, I moved to a different place, so I don't really know anybody now, but I did. Yeah. And I've noticed that when I'm with a girl, it gets a lot bigger than it used to be.
55:44
Drew
It's just the amount of excitement you're into there.
55:46
Adam
Yeah. You're pretty comfortable with yourself by now. You're no big thrill. Try putting a little perfume on your other wrist and sniff that.
55:53
Caller
That'll get you going. All right, Bob?
55:55
Adam
Okay. All right, Bob. Listen, Bob. Wear a condom at all times, would you? Okay.
56:01
Drew
Okay. Yeah. Just keep rotating them. Meal time. Put on a new condom.
56:08
Adam
Never take one off. Oh, Drew, you didn't get any oral sex at 14, did you? No. John, any oral sex?
56:17
They Might Be Giants
No.
56:18
Adam
John? No. No.
56:19
Drew
Although this confirms what we've heard from a lot of high school kids, which is that young women are performing oral sex on the males, and they consider it sort of part of the making out process.
56:26
They Might Be Giants
Well, I thought it was interesting that he said not sex, but it was the new Clinton definition of sex.
56:33
Drew
Yes, sir.
56:33
They Might Be Giants
It's not sex.
56:34
Drew
That's right. Anal sex is not sex in our camp here.
56:37
Caller
I don't consider it sex.
56:39
Caller
It's extra.
56:41
Adam
It's more of a sport than it is, than sex if you really think about it.
56:45
Caller
Sporty.
56:46
Adam
Jesus.
56:47
Drew
Ridiculous.
56:48
Adam
Melissa.
56:49
Caller
Hey.
56:49
Adam
Hey, you're 23.
56:50
Caller
How you doing?
56:51
Caller
What's going on?
56:52
Caller
I want to tell them they might be giants.
56:54
Adam
Here they are.
56:55
They Might Be Giants
We're right here.
56:55
Caller
Bear with me because I'm really nervous.
56:57
They Might Be Giants
Don't be nervous.
56:58
Caller
You guys are so unbelievably talented. I love you guys.
57:02
They Might Be Giants
Well, thank you very much.
57:03
Caller
I saw you guys down in San Diego at Fourth and B like last year. It was the best show I've ever been to.
57:08
Adam
Did they have their horn section with them?
57:10
Caller
No.
57:10
Adam
Oh, think how much better they're going to be with the horn section.
57:13
They Might Be Giants
I remember that show. Yeah, that was a really fun show.
57:16
Caller
Yeah, it was cool. But a question for you. What was your inspiration for Cowtown?
57:23
They Might Be Giants
Geez, you know, that was one of the first songs we ever cooked up for the band. And I can't even remember what was the inspiration for it. I think it was one of those very stream of consciousness kind of lyrics that just came out of nowhere.
57:38
Caller
Actually, I was going to ask about the band Naked Ladies, but that guy beat me to it.
57:41
Drew
That guy?
57:42
Caller
Yeah.
57:43
Drew
Oh, why they don't tour with them, you mean?
57:45
Caller
Yeah, or if you guys like them, because you guys have a lot in common with the lyrics and stuff, you know.
57:51
Adam
Well, they're all smart white guys.
57:54
Caller
Yeah.
57:54
Adam
But other than that...
57:56
Drew
Who don't look or act like band members.
57:58
Caller
Yes, exactly.
57:59
Adam
They're intelligent and they're good and they're both real good live, but it's funny, it doesn't mean you have to pair them up, you know what I mean? Better that they should spread out and cover opposite ends of the country.
58:10
They Might Be Giants
Well, they're from Canada, we're from Brooklyn.
58:13
Adam
Right, so there's that connection.
58:14
They Might Be Giants
It's an international thing. Yeah.
58:16
Caller
Right.
58:17
Adam
Melissa?
58:18
Caller
Yes?
58:19
Adam
Where are you, are you still living in San Diego?
58:21
Caller
Yes, and I actually want to see them, because they're coming to Street Scene this weekend.
58:25
They Might Be Giants
Yeah, we'll be playing outside, I think, or maybe inside under some kind of covered thing.
58:29
Caller
Trying to scramble.
58:30
They Might Be Giants
You guys have been with people holding hot dogs. Yep.
58:33
Adam
And you can see them down at the Coach House, too.
58:36
When is that?
58:37
They Might Be Giants
Saturday night, San Juan Capistrano, the Coach House, the fabulous sit down deal.
58:43
Adam
The legendary Coach House. And that's what? That is about halfway between LA and you, right?
58:48
That's not the same.
58:50
Adam
It's a little closer to you? To us. Oh, it is?
58:53
All right.
58:53
Adam
Well, who cares? You'll make the drive. You love the band, right?
58:55
Caller
Oh, definitely.
58:56
All right.
58:56
Adam
They'll see you there.
58:57
They Might Be Giants
Well, thank you for your support.
58:58
Adam
Pull your top up when you get there.
59:01
Caller
Okay.
59:01
Adam
All right. What are you talking about?
59:02
Caller
I'm just so...
59:04
Adam
I'm looking for more of a real sort of hard edged kind of concert night.
59:11
They Might Be Giants
That's just the same old same old man.
59:14
They Might Be Giants
That's old school.
59:15
They Might Be Giants
Yeah.
59:16
They Might Be Giants
Right there.
59:18
Drew
As he listened to those UFO songs, that's what he envisioned. He was on stage and that's what he wanted out there in the audience.
59:23
They Might Be Giants
Right? Yeah. We got a message for the ladies. Keep your tops on. It's cool.
59:30
Adam
All right. All right, boys. Susan.
59:34
They Might Be Giants
Settle down with that dignity stuff.
59:37
Drew
I like these guys more and more all the time. Susan, what's going on?
59:40
You know, I've been listening to you for a while now and I hear you guys talking about the little girl voice, how, you know, you're going to bet on what's wrong with their life. Well, in my voice, I'm like carrying on normal conversations with people and I get into this type of phone sex talk where they think I'm seducing them or something. I'm just talking to them regularly. I work as a reception and I got into lots of trouble where I'd be talking to these customers and they would start saying, you know, inappropriate things to me like, you know, I'd like to see you naked and absurd things. And I used to think, well, you know, am I talking wrong or is something wrong with my voice or?
1:00:17
Drew
No, it's not the voice.
1:00:19
Okay.
1:00:21
Adam
You say you bring that out in men.
1:00:23
Drew
Yeah. Well, men are picking up on something. Have you ever been raped?
1:00:27
Oh, no, I have a totally screwed up childhood. I mean, totally screwed up.
1:00:31
Drew
I'm in counseling and well, that's what they're picking up on is that you're a good victim. So that's why I'm asking if you've been raped.
1:00:37
Okay. So it's nothing in my voice.
1:00:39
Drew
Have you been raped?
1:00:40
I was molested by my brother.
1:00:42
Drew
Okay. That's the stuff they're picking up on. And abusers just know that. I don't know how the hell they know it.
1:00:47
Caller
Were you ever raped, though?
1:00:48
Drew
No. But I was going with the easiest. She was abused.
1:00:52
Adam
I know. It's just sometimes they go on to be victims. And maybe you haven't gone on to be as big a victim as we might have thought.
1:01:01
Drew
Well, were you in abusive relationships after that?
1:01:03
Oh, yes.
1:01:05
Drew
Yeah.
1:01:05
They Might Be Giants
Okay. I don't mean to be a contrarian here, but just because somebody survived abuse doesn't mean that they're necessarily putting out vibes that they're a victim. I think there's something to be said for like guys on the phone being wildly irresponsible with total strangers.
1:01:23
Drew
Every single woman we speak to that was raped had early childhood victimization.
1:01:27
Well, you know, I know that I...
1:01:28
Drew
Except the very occasion.
1:01:30
They Might Be Giants
I'm not saying that victimization is not common. I'm just saying that just because you survived being victimized doesn't mean you're putting out vibes that you are a victim. That's like saying you can never overcome any problem.
1:01:40
You know, somehow those comebacks seem to pick me out, you know? And I'm trying to figure out, is it my voice? Is it... You know, once they say something that's inappropriate, I'm like so shocked. And I just say, okay, you asshole, get off the phone. Or, you know, of course, I didn't do that at work. I would just get out of the conversation and be done with it. But I find that it's happening more than I think it should be. And I'm wondering, is there something I can do to stop this from happening? I mean, I go to counseling. What more can I do? I mean, my voice isn't extremely strange, is it, or?
1:02:11
Drew
No, I just think that people don't want to believe me when I say that's just the way humans are. So maybe you can help. Maybe you can help. Wait, wait, hold on. Maybe you can help.
1:02:19
Adam
Do you want me to help?
1:02:20
Sure, Adam, help.
1:02:21
Drew
Because they don't want to hear me talk.
1:02:23
Adam
Well, no one likes to hear the doctor get preachy. You go back and read your JAMA. I'll have a heart-to-heart with the boys and Susan and see if I can make any headway here.
1:02:32
Somebody help me, please.
1:02:33
Adam
All right, listen, guys are pigs. There's no doubt about that. Guys are out of line. And anybody who gets you on the other line and starts coming on to you sexually is out of line. That doesn't make it your fault.
1:02:45
Caller
Okay, but why?
1:02:46
Adam
But be quiet. The point is, is they're doing it consistently. And anytime someone does something consistently, you're the constant in that. Meaning if one out of every five guys starts going down a sexual path with you and they get another receptionist in there and it's one out of every 25 guys that goes down the sexual paths with her, then you're the difference. Now, what is it that is coaxing that?
1:03:14
They Might Be Giants
She's working in an office where everybody is her superior. She's the person answering the phone. She's in a subservient role. She's just completely set up by the culture, the business culture that she's in.
1:03:28
Adam
But other people don't have that problem. Well, she's calling and saying she has a problem.
1:03:33
They Might Be Giants
It is a problem. I'm just saying that it works on a bunch of different levels.
1:03:37
Adam
What I mean is there are many factors here.
1:03:43
They Might Be Giants
Right.
1:03:43
Adam
There's no doubt about that. Obviously, this could happen to anybody at any given time. Although a healthy person immediately nips it in the bud. They don't get far down that sexual road before the person hangs up or transfers them or gives them a good tongue lashing or what have you.
1:04:01
They Might Be Giants
Well, nobody's getting that far down the road with her.
1:04:03
Adam
Yeah, they are.
1:04:04
Drew
But why did I know immediately she had been victimized?
1:04:06
Adam
Why did Drew say they had been victimized?
1:04:07
Drew
Immediately.
1:04:08
Adam
The second she said, the second she said, guys keep calling and keep saying this.
1:04:12
Caller
Yeah, they get farther than I'd like.
1:04:15
Adam
Of course they do.
1:04:15
Drew
Because that's the way, that's what happens to people who are abused at children without exception. It's just the way it is. Now, you can do something about it. I'm not saying you can't do anything about it. It's just the consequence of the circumstance of your child.
1:04:28
Adam
Well, and I think what John's objecting to, and it's only because John's a real good guy, is the stigma of once a victim, always a victim.
1:04:37
Drew
Right, which is not the case. And we're not saying that.
1:04:39
Caller
I'd like to say that.
1:04:39
Adam
Well, it is the case unless you get some help. Unless you do.
1:04:43
Caller
And what you're doing. I think I have a good counselor, and I've been at it for like two years now, and I know I've heard...
1:04:49
Drew
You're just getting started, Susan. Just getting started.
1:04:52
Caller
I've heard Adam say it takes five years or plus.
1:04:54
Adam
Well, you were molested by your brother.
1:04:58
Caller
Right.
1:04:58
Caller
For how long?
1:05:00
Caller
For about six months.
1:05:02
Adam
And anything before or after that?
1:05:05
Caller
No, he moved on to my other sister.
1:05:07
Caller
All right.
1:05:07
Adam
And your parents didn't do anything about it or weren't aware of it?
1:05:10
Caller
No, they were totally oblivious to a lot of things, you know.
1:05:14
Caller
Why?
1:05:15
Caller
How come?
1:05:16
Caller
Because they were... And they went to bed at nine o'clock, and after their lights went out, well, it didn't matter what happened, I'd be out all night.
1:05:27
Adam
And then you went on to some bad or abusive relationships after that?
1:05:31
Caller
Totally. At 12 years old, I was dating an 18-year-old jewel thief, so you know it goes from there.
1:05:36
Adam
Right. Okay.
1:05:37
Caller
It sucks.
1:05:37
Adam
So, okay, so you had many years of that, and only at 38 or 39 did you begin counseling.
1:05:44
Caller
Okay.
1:05:44
Drew
All right.
1:05:44
Adam
So you had, you had 39 years of a certain life and you expect to undo it in 24 months of counseling, and it just doesn't happen that fast. So the fact that you're in counseling, the fact that you're calling up, and the fact that you present this as a problem means you're making headway.
1:06:01
Drew
Right.
1:06:01
Adam
It's not going to happen overnight.
1:06:02
Drew
But I mean, you pose an interesting question, though, and the one that we've never been able to answer, and one that we every night question about is, how do these guys know it? How do these assholes know they can get away with this? How do they pick out the victims? What kind of radar do they have that these assholes can do this every time? And these are the people that get raped and get into the abusive relationships, and the guys go after these women.
1:06:23
Adam
Right.
1:06:23
Drew
What is that?
1:06:24
Adam
Don't know. They haven't figured it out, but they know. And that's the interesting phenomenon. And we talk to a... It happens every other night. Some girl calls in and says she's 16. She has a 22-year-old boyfriend, and he just date raped her in his van. And we always say, what happened before that? And inevitably, something happened before that. Something with the babysitter, something with the stepdad, something, something, six, seven years old, what have you. Something set them up. Doesn't make it their fault. Doesn't mean the guy's not a criminal. Doesn't mean the guy doesn't deserve to, you know, be locked up for the rest of his life.
1:07:06
They Might Be Giants
But are you saying, I mean, you know...
1:07:08
Adam
But there's groundwork.
1:07:09
They Might Be Giants
Are you sure you're not, in this case, you're not using the Dr. Laura defense of, you know, it's, there's something there that we know. What, but what did you really call about? You know, the, that we were talking about before.
1:07:21
Adam
Right, we were talking about before the show started.
1:07:23
They Might Be Giants
That Dr. Laura always turns it around with this, you know, why are you really calling? Because I mean, lots of people have, you know, things that happened in their past. I just think that, I just think that, I just know some people are in work environments where they are the lowest person on the totem pole and they are constantly being hammered on, hit on by guys who are totally out of line and it's, you know, it's just, it's...
1:07:44
Drew
But the guys that do that, certain kinds of guys do that, the ones that know they can get away with it.
1:07:49
They Might Be Giants
But they are also, but they are in power structures, they are in power structures where they can get away with it. They can, you know, how many people are somebody's boss and if the roles were reversed, if she was sitting in the corner office and somebody came in and was that inappropriate, she could fire them.
1:08:05
Caller
She can't fire anybody.
1:08:06
Drew
You're actually touching on an issue that's a hot button for me, which is why people in authority must be healthy and must be held accountable behavior. It's why the Clinton thing freaks me out, because those are the people that set the structure for the entire social fabric. And the people who are unhealthy, like Susan, are completely victimized by these people in power if they misuse their position. And it is the responsibility of anybody ahead of anybody to not do that, whether it's a teacher, a physician, a dentist, give a GD what it is. But that's the way that society has to work, and the society has to maintain that.
1:08:43
Adam
All right, Drew.
1:08:43
Drew
You have to react to that. I'm sorry.
1:08:44
Adam
Why don't you put the oxygen mask on?
1:08:46
They Might Be Giants
I think you over-exerted there.
1:08:48
Adam
When Drew does that about once a year, it's like when some big fat NFL lineman picks up a fumble around the five and rumbles 95 yards. He's got to hit the sideline. They always have that picture of him sucking off the oxygen mask. That's what Drew's got to do now. All right, we're going to take a break, and we'll be back with more of They Might Be Giants.
1:09:07
Caller
Loveline, Adam Corolla, Dr. Drew, phone numbers 1-800-LOVE-191. QEBM.
1:09:24
Caller
Oh, you're right there.
1:09:25
Caller
It's Loveline on WEDN.
1:09:40
Adam
Hey, it's the Loveline, phone number, 1-800-L-V-E-1-9-1. They Might Be Giants are here, John and Jonathan. Severe Tire Damage is the name of the CD, and actually we're going to hear something off of that. Now, most of the stuff on the CD is live, and it's stuff that's been on other CDs before, but not this one, correct?
1:10:02
They Might Be Giants
Yes, we've got a single out. It's a brand new studio recording of a song called Dr. Worm, and we've done a video for it. It's actually, it's on the box. You ever watch The Box?
1:10:13
Adam
I have seen The Box where people request videos.
1:10:17
They Might Be Giants
Yeah, it's on The Box now, which is kind of interesting.
1:10:20
Adam
Do you have to, do you pay for those? Do we pay? No, does one pay when you request a song? It's like $3.95.
1:10:29
They Might Be Giants
Yeah, yeah, I think that's how it works. Yeah, people call up and request it, and you can see the video that you paid for, yeah. It's crazy, but yeah, it's there.
1:10:39
Adam
I call it the old-fashioned, but I like the potluck variety, where I just sit there and get surprised by, hey, it's the Culture Club.
1:10:45
They Might Be Giants
Yeah, well, it's a different selection on the Vox. It's like a very odd Vox popular kind of.
1:10:51
They Might Be Giants
We love Vox.
1:10:51
Adam
Is the Vox, is it any kind of stepping stone to MTV or do they not care at all?
1:10:58
They Might Be Giants
I have no idea. I have no idea what the, I mean, I think the Vox primarily plays a lot of stuff that is really a little bit on the fringe. I think they play a lot of rap stuff that's too extreme for like the, you know, for the mainstream thing.
1:11:13
Adam
Like a corn video or something.
1:11:15
They Might Be Giants
Yeah.
1:11:15
Adam
Something pretty hardcore like that. Because it seems like every time I do see that, I see something that seems a little edgy, something I wouldn't see.
1:11:23
They Might Be Giants
Yeah.
1:11:23
Adam
All right. So do you guys know what number the worm is? I mean, Dr. Worm?
1:11:28
They Might Be Giants
No. No. You just have to sit and sit through all the old dirty bastard videos and check out Dr. Worm.
1:11:35
Adam
Keep your eye on the box and now keep your ear on the box. Oh, yes, that is Dr. Worm. They Might Be Giants off of Severe Tire Damage. And I gotta say, not only is that a good song, but that sounds like there should be a series called Dr. Worm. It really sounds like, can you see a guy in like with a stethoscope, and he's chasing a guy firing a gun and...
1:14:53
Drew
No, it needs to be a cartoon.
1:14:55
Adam
Okay.
1:14:55
Drew
A claymation.
1:14:56
Adam
Yeah. It just had a very like sort of 60s theme song thing to it. Yeah.
1:15:01
They Might Be Giants
Robert Culp, you know.
1:15:04
Adam
And a whole montage.
1:15:05
Caller
Bring him back.
1:15:06
Adam
There one time he's...
1:15:07
Caller
Dig him up.
1:15:08
Adam
There's one where he's jumping on the hood of a car and getting knocked into the boxes, and the other one where he's with the beautiful woman out on a date.
1:15:17
They Might Be Giants
Right.
1:15:17
Adam
Yeah, I like that. And the horns, again, very strong here.
1:15:21
They Might Be Giants
Flagging those horns.
1:15:22
They Might Be Giants
The Velcro horns. Well, they'll be happy to be getting so much mention.
1:15:26
Adam
They sound great.
1:15:26
They Might Be Giants
They get the ladies, they get the mention.
1:15:28
Adam
Well, to me, and I don't mean to cut you off, and with the exception of UFO, there's no phone that doesn't sound better without some horns. It just rounds the whole thing out for me. You just can't go wrong. Alright, so another nice effort from They Might Be Giants.
1:15:44
They Might Be Giants
That was just getting hyper excited about the fact that the producer or the woman from the doorway.
1:15:51
Adam
Lisa, the phone screener.
1:15:52
They Might Be Giants
The phone screener just came in with the number for Dr. Worm to be requested on the box. It's number 412.
1:15:58
Adam
Right, 412.
1:16:00
They Might Be Giants
On the box you can see the video for Dr. Worm by They Might Be Giants.
1:16:04
Adam
And what's going on in that video?
1:16:07
They Might Be Giants
It was filmed in Brooklyn.
1:16:10
They Might Be Giants
It's a lot of performance.
1:16:13
They Might Be Giants
It's set in a sort of a Soviet style medical office. Probably not.
1:16:19
Adam
Hold on, hold on a second. Let me give you the right answer. Chick pulse or top up? No. There's a bunch of stone teenagers who are thinking about phoning this in right now.
1:16:26
They Might Be Giants
There is animation. There is a Robert Culpa moment.
1:16:30
Adam
And the chick pulse or top up at the end? That's right.
1:16:33
They Might Be Giants
You're like living in some 80s.
1:16:35
Adam
4-1-2, everybody. See the chick?
1:16:37
They Might Be Giants
4-1-2.
1:16:39
Adam
Yeah. I'm trying to get...
1:16:40
Caller
Thanks for helping.
1:16:41
Adam
I'm trying to get some hits on the box voices. You know, this whole the guy's playing the cello in Greenwich Village thing. Believe me.
1:16:51
Caller
I don't know what you're talking about.
1:16:52
They Might Be Giants
There's no cellos in our video, man.
1:16:55
Adam
The Soviet theme, okay.
1:16:56
Caller
Yeah, there's a Soviet thing.
1:16:57
They Might Be Giants
I know you stepped off at the Soviet. That's like the big, you know, ejector.
1:17:00
They Might Be Giants
I see you glazing over.
1:17:01
Caller
Yeah, it's like, oh my God, he said Soviet.
1:17:04
Adam
People don't want to see like...
1:17:06
Caller
Balin...
1:17:07
Adam
.Gorby in some summit. They want a chick with her top up.
1:17:10
They Might Be Giants
There's some very cool animation in the video.
1:17:12
Adam
Okay, look for that.
1:17:13
They Might Be Giants
Well worth the $3.95.
1:17:15
Adam
Oh no, it doesn't cost so much, does it?
1:17:17
They Might Be Giants
It's like three...
1:17:18
Adam
how much does the box cost?
1:17:19
Caller
Yeah. Oh, I don't know.
1:17:20
Adam
Yeah, it is. It's like a jukebox.
1:17:22
Caller
Yeah.
1:17:22
Adam
They bill you a few bucks and you can pick out a few. And I want you to pick Dr. Worm three times if you have three selections.
1:17:29
They Might Be Giants
Yeah, 412. That number is 412.
1:17:31
Adam
Josh.
1:17:32
Caller
Hello.
1:17:33
Adam
You're 17.
1:17:34
Caller
Ace Rockolla.
1:17:35
Adam
Let me just do... thank you. Let me just do a quick and formal poll here of our young listeners. If there was a video that was going to be on the box, one of them was about the former Soviet. Union. And the other one was a chick puller top up. Which one would you go for?
1:17:52
Uh, I don't know.
1:17:54
Adam
Okay.
1:17:54
They Might Be Giants
There you go.
1:17:55
They Might Be Giants
My point... my point exactly.
1:17:57
Adam
Why do we got to have such a tars call in this show, Drew?
1:17:59
They Might Be Giants
He needs to know more. He needs to know more about the song.
1:18:02
Adam
What's wrong with you, Josh? You're 17.
1:18:05
Caller
Adam, I'd probably pick the one with the top.
1:18:07
Adam
All right. Thanks, Jack.
1:18:08
Caller
Whatever.
1:18:09
Caller
Honestly.
1:18:11
Caller
Who would you pick?
1:18:12
Adam
Just what's your question? I'll discuss it with you.
1:18:14
Caller
First, I just wanted to say that you guys really rock. I really appreciate all the stuff you guys do. And I had a question about you. I actually had a comment for you, Adam. Do you remember when you had Ron Jeremy on and you wanted the video, Spank Me, F Me?
1:18:31
Adam
Yes.
1:18:32
Caller
I have a number for you that has that video.
1:18:35
Adam
Really?
1:18:36
Caller
Yes.
1:18:37
Adam
How much is it going to cost me?
1:18:38
Caller
I have no idea. Probably basic price. I don't know how much a porno is nowadays.
1:18:43
Adam
Ron promised me he would send it to me. Let me just backtrack and get the boys caught up. We had Larry Flint in here about a year ago. I asked Larry what other publications were under the Flint umbrella. It's weird. He does some sailing books and some computer magazines and things like that. But one of them is Busty. I said, Larry, I need Busty. I need a year subscription to Busty, which has since run out, by the way, for Larry's listening. And I said, Larry's got as my witness, I'll bring that empire to its knees if I don't get a Busty subscription. And three weeks later, I got my first issue of Busty.
1:19:23
They Might Be Giants
And I was looking through your mail carrier must have been very proud of you.
1:19:26
Adam
Comes in a plain plain brown bag. I'm like like the guys who live in mail aren't hip to that by now. But one of the first issues I had was a they were doing a movie review. It starred Ron Jeremy, Kayla Cleavage.
1:19:42
They Might Be Giants
You're reading the articles.
1:19:44
Adam
They do some pretty funny writing in those things. And Minka, the big busted Asian porn star. And when we had Ron, and I really wanted to get hold of this video. Because it's just like you just saw a few snippets of it. And I thought this would be good. So I called the video store and I said the movies called spanked me, f me, but they say the whole thing.
1:20:04
They Might Be Giants
We understand.
1:20:05
Adam
So I called the video store and I said it that way. Excuse me, do you have spanked me, f me? And the guy went, huh? I said, spank me, f me.
1:20:14
They Might Be Giants
Did you preface this by saying like, I'm looking for a porno video?
1:20:17
Adam
I may have used adult selection. And then he didn't know what I was talking about. So I finally said spank me. And then I said the whole word. And then he hung up. So when Ron came in, I said, I need spank me, f me. And Ron hung up. No, Ron said he would get it to me and he never did. But Josh, are you there? What's that phone number? Wait a minute, wait a minute. Maybe you should tell me off the air. I don't want everyone calling and clogging up the lines when I'm trying to call.
1:20:44
Caller
Yeah.
1:20:45
Caller
All right.
1:20:45
Adam
Can you do that?
1:20:46
Caller
Yeah.
1:20:46
Caller
All right.
1:20:47
Adam
You have another question?
1:20:49
Caller
Yeah, actually, I will be honest. I do smoke marijuana and I was wondering, is it worse if you're smoking chronic a lot?
1:20:57
Drew
That's not what this says here on the screen.
1:21:00
Adam
What's the screen say?
1:21:01
Drew
It says that his dad's dating his, the girl he's dating is gonna, mom's gonna marry his dad or something?
1:21:07
Caller
Yeah, yeah. I'm dating a girl right now.
1:21:09
Drew
And by the way, the more pot you smoke, the worse it is, all right? There you go.
1:21:13
Caller
Okay, okay. I'm dating a girl right now.
1:21:15
Adam
Tends to make you forget your questions.
1:21:18
Caller
I'm dating a girl right now and I've been with her for a long time and my dad now wants to date her mom.
1:21:25
Drew
Wants to date her mom.
1:21:26
Caller
No, is dating her mom, wants to marry her mom. And I'm wondering, can that affect my relationship with her?
1:21:33
Adam
Well, it can if she moves in with you.
1:21:35
Caller
No, but I mean, can I, won't it be like...
1:21:40
Adam
Your baby's going to have four arms or something?
1:21:42
Drew
No, you're not biologically related. It's not incest, but it's certainly...
1:21:45
Caller
Is it a legal issue?
1:21:47
Drew
I don't know, but it's...
1:21:48
Adam
No, it's not a legal issue.
1:21:49
Drew
It certainly is not a healthy circumstance for a family to try to establish itself.
1:21:55
Adam
Yeah, it's a little weird. On the other hand, you're 17 and she's how old?
1:21:58
Drew
She's 17. It's like a workplace thing, you know? They're always going to be in that workplace. What if it doesn't work out?
1:22:04
Adam
What if they don't get married for another couple years and they're out of the house and everything? That's not that weird. You know what I mean? It's a little weird around Christmas and Thanksgiving, but it's extra super weird if they get married tomorrow and they move in with you.
1:22:20
Caller
Well, I mean because we will always be known as the couple where my mom or my dad and her mom are married and we're kind of step-brother and step-sister.
1:22:28
Adam
Right.
1:22:29
Caller
But we're together.
1:22:31
Adam
It is weird, but it's not biologically weird. And you have an excuse, which is you got there before dad did. Well, it's weirder if dad and mom got married and then like if Peter started dating Marcia.
1:22:45
Caller
Yeah. But like since we're before, is it different? You don't know.
1:22:50
Adam
It is, except for no one will ever know.
1:22:52
Caller
No.
1:22:52
Adam
Well, I'll just assume the worst that you guys met in the hole.
1:22:55
Caller
OK.
1:22:58
Adam
All right. You guys have any takes?
1:22:59
They Might Be Giants
I don't think it's a legal problem.
1:23:01
Adam
No.
1:23:01
They Might Be Giants
I think you're in the clear and hopefully it won't happen for a year and then everything will be cool.
1:23:06
Adam
Yeah.
1:23:07
They Might Be Giants
Life's weird.
1:23:08
Adam
Life is weird. But you'll you'll move out of the house if you can. You've got to get out of the house. You can't all move in together. She's got to live in the yard.
1:23:16
Caller
I wanted to say to the band really quick. I've never heard you guys before, but I listen to your music just now and it sounds really good. Cool.
1:23:22
They Might Be Giants
Cool. Come see us. We're on tour.
1:23:24
Adam
See what that pot does.
1:23:26
They Might Be Giants
Hey.
1:23:26
Adam
Oh, I'm just kidding, fellas. No, that's quite a testimonial. Most are listeners.
1:23:31
They Might Be Giants
I like the way you cut them off right away when he says he's not the band.
1:23:34
Adam
He has 15 questions.
1:23:35
Caller
I like you guys clear.
1:23:37
Adam
Josh. See that? He's gone. Hey, Josh.
1:23:41
Caller
I'm still here.
1:23:42
Adam
Yeah. You got to hang on because you got to give me that number.
1:23:44
Caller
Yeah. I know. I want to give you that number.
1:23:45
Adam
Okay. And you love the band, right?
1:23:47
Caller
I love the band.
1:23:48
They Might Be Giants
We love you, Josh.
1:23:51
Adam
All right, Drew. We're going to go to break.
1:23:53
Drew
Yeah.
1:23:53
Adam
Can you get that number for me?
1:23:55
Drew
Me?
1:23:55
Adam
Yeah. Why don't you do that?
1:23:56
Drew
And?
1:23:57
Adam
No, I'll get the number. All right. We'll be back with it. They might be Giants.
1:24:09
Caller
W-E-B-N.
1:24:13
Caller
Loveline only on W-E-B-N.
1:24:24
Caller
Hi, I'm Robin Leach with those Champagne Wishes and Caviar Dreams. And you're listening to Loveline with Dr. Drew and Adam Corolla.
1:24:33
Adam
Yeah.
1:24:34
Caller
All right.
1:24:35
Adam
We're here with the Johns. John and John from They Might Be Giants. We just have a little banana fan of a fan of discussion. During the break there, Drew's got his trail mix and he's caught a second win. Ready to roll here, Drew?
1:24:48
Drew
Let's go.
1:24:49
Adam
Drew likes to do a lot of head nodding.
1:24:51
They Might Be Giants
We're going into the speed round now.
1:24:53
Adam
Kimya.
1:24:54
Caller
Yes.
1:24:55
Adam
You're 22.
1:24:56
Caller
Yes.
1:24:57
Adam
What nationality are you, Kimya?
1:24:58
Caller
My father's from Iran.
1:25:00
Adam
Okay. Interesting name.
1:25:02
Caller
Thank you.
1:25:03
Adam
What's going on?
1:25:04
Caller
Well, my comment is for They Might Be Giants. John, what's up?
1:25:08
They Might Be Giants
Hey, what's up? We're here.
1:25:09
They Might Be Giants
We're here talking about sex on the radio and feeling very shy.
1:25:12
Caller
Yeah, my favorite subject, not. Okay. Anyways.
1:25:16
Adam
Well, they kill you in Iran, right? If you want to have sex.
1:25:19
Caller
It's not as bad as it used to be.
1:25:21
Adam
Oh, okay.
1:25:21
Caller
In fact, my parents are planning on taking me this summer. That'll be interesting.
1:25:25
Adam
Yeah. Can't you get shot for wearing sandals?
1:25:28
Caller
What?
1:25:28
Adam
No. Ask the band a question.
1:25:32
Caller
Well, first off, I met you guys way back in 92. I told my friends, we used to call it PocaFest of 92.
1:25:39
Caller
I'm from Milwaukee.
1:25:40
Caller
Oh, right.
1:25:40
Caller
I was on the Majeska stage.
1:25:42
Caller
You're kidding. Wow.
1:25:44
They Might Be Giants
We should explain to the people listening. We were doing a show at the Majeska Theater in Milwaukee. We were playing a song, the only polka in our show, called The Famous Polka. And it was about, I don't know, how far into the show? It was like an hour.
1:25:57
Caller
About 40 seconds into the song.
1:25:58
Caller
It was about halfway through the show.
1:26:00
They Might Be Giants
Right. We were doing the show. And the security guys were kind of holding everybody in their seats. Everyone was standing up, but nobody was in the aisle. There was a big aisle and a big front in front of the stage. And usually people dance at our shows. So I said this thing that I will forever regret, which is I said, I'm sure the fire marshal wouldn't mind if you all came down and danced, which the audience in the front row took as an invitation to jump up onto the stage. And, you know, I mean, obviously, like all the aisle filled and people started dancing, but also suddenly there was like, you know, a few dozen people on the front of the stage, which was actually a makeshift kind of apron above an orchestra pit. And they started dancing. And well, why don't you tell the rest of the story? Were you in the?
1:26:51
Caller
Yeah, I was on the stage when it collapsed.
1:26:53
They Might Be Giants
And what and what was it like?
1:26:55
Caller
Oh, it was so much fun.
1:26:57
Caller
I just I'm there.
1:26:59
Caller
I got on the stage and about 40 seconds into it. I mean, I just remember smiling and poking away.
1:27:05
Caller
And all of a sudden, boom, it fell.
1:27:07
Caller
And I'm like, did that just happen? That was kind of fun.
1:27:09
They Might Be Giants
It looked really mysterious. And it looked like everybody sat down at the same time.
1:27:13
Adam
Weren't you on the stage when it collapsed?
1:27:15
They Might Be Giants
We were on the part that didn't collapse.
1:27:16
They Might Be Giants
We were on the back behind the fire curtain. So we were fine. And it was like this, you know, Doug Henning, you know, disappearing thing. All of a sudden, all these people dancing, they just went away.
1:27:26
Drew
It could be like 12 feet down.
1:27:27
They Might Be Giants
Yeah, it was, it was, it was, luckily, it was only maybe four or five feet.
1:27:31
Adam
Did anybody get hurt?
1:27:33
They Might Be Giants
A few people went, did you go, were you one of the people who went to the hospital?
1:27:36
Caller
I wasn't one of them, but my friend was.
1:27:38
Caller
Her ribs, she had two of them sticking out afterwards.
1:27:41
They Might Be Giants
Oh, dang.
1:27:42
Caller
I didn't meet you guys.
1:27:43
Caller
I remember you guys bringing KFC.
1:27:44
Caller
I've been telling my friend all these years about it.
1:27:47
Drew
Wait, wait, you mean she dislocated her ribs, they weren't sticking out of her chest.
1:27:50
Caller
Well, there was bleat. There was like blood on her side. There was like something poking out.
1:27:55
Drew
So she had compound fractures in her ribs.
1:27:57
They Might Be Giants
I never heard about that.
1:27:58
Caller
Something.
1:27:59
Drew
No.
1:28:00
Adam
People do that. They go, He cracked his head wide open. I saw his brain.
1:28:05
They Might Be Giants
Well, I guess they were like, There was like a half dozen people who were hospitalized. But it was, I have to say, when that happened, the first thing I thought was, it's been really interesting being a performer in the rock business. I wonder what I'll be doing now because it really seemed obvious that They Might Be Giants career had just ended.
1:28:24
They Might Be Giants
That's right. We got to see it in Milwaukee.
1:28:27
Adam
There was never a lawsuit or anything like that?
1:28:30
They Might Be Giants
We knew we were expecting it, but nothing ever happened.
1:28:32
Adam
Well, it's a kid's fault. They heard Roll Out the Barrels and Al Charge the Stage.
1:28:37
They Might Be Giants
Milwaukee is a huge polka town, big German-Polish community.
1:28:41
They Might Be Giants
We got the polka dispensation.
1:28:43
They Might Be Giants
And apparently some Persians in there as well.
1:28:46
Adam
Yeah, well, they're known for their polka.
1:28:48
Drew
The Persian Polka.
1:28:49
Adam
I got to say, and I know this may sound a little corny, but I'll tell you, the Middle East could use a little polka music about it. They really could. That's what that country's lacking. They're singing like someone stepped on their foot over there.
1:29:02
What's my dad doing in Israel?
1:29:04
Adam
It's a long story. I don't want to get into that. But the point is, wouldn't it be a better place if there's a little polka music piped into that area of the world?
1:29:13
Caller
Absolutely.
1:29:14
Adam
Think about it. Right now, what is their music? I've... Is there actually a guy building a bomb to this?
1:29:27
They Might Be Giants
It's all about love.
1:29:28
Caller
Yeah.
1:29:30
Adam
You can't kill the white infidel with this playing in the background, can you?
1:29:35
Drew
You might.
1:29:36
They Might Be Giants
This is the white infidel playing the music.
1:29:39
Adam
After a couple hours, you may want to kill the white infidel. But just in small spurts, I think you'd be happier.
1:29:45
They Might Be Giants
We only do one polka. That's why it's the famous polka.
1:29:47
Adam
Just to show your range out there. Tony.
1:29:51
Caller
How's it going?
1:29:52
Adam
Good. You're 21.
1:29:53
Caller
Yep. Let me get this out of the way. Dr. Drew, I work with one of the most smartest engineers in the world, and I would put you next to him any day.
1:30:03
Drew
Thank you, Tony.
1:30:05
Adam
Please. He's not that smart, Drew.
1:30:06
Drew
Wait a minute. Let him give you a compliment.
1:30:08
Caller
Adam, most of the time, it sounds like it's just a bunch of crap rolling out of your mouth, and then all of a sudden with the last few sentences tie together and make it absolutely awesome.
1:30:18
Adam
That's right. It's like a big dookie draw string, right at the very end, just cinching the whole string of crap together. I think I may have done it right then.
1:30:29
Caller
What's up, Tony? I am just as fired up about this Clinton thing as you sound like you are. I think that this whole thing definitely has an impact on the youth of America, and if it doesn't, it definitely should, because we elect the most public man in the world, and we let him get away with behaving like this.
1:30:50
Adam
Well, how do we let him get away with it?
1:30:53
Caller
It's been, we've been, presidents have been doing this.
1:30:57
Adam
All right. I don't think Clinton's getting away with this, by the way. Sure as hell doesn't sound like it. Not in the last few days. But I agree with you. I mean, I'm split here because I'm an atheist who really doesn't care about anyone but myself. But on the other hand, I do understand that as the sort of leader of the free world, you really should try to set some kind of moral example, at least, I mean, here's my big beef with the guy. Well, here's the thing that I've always thought about. What are your chances of becoming the president of the United States of America? And then once you are the president of the United States of America, it's such a brief page in history that you're actually in the White House. Wouldn't you think to sort of keep it together for that relatively small period of time? It's a bat of an eye when you look at the history of the world and the country.
1:31:54
Drew
For even a lifetime. You know, it's a very small period of someone's life.
1:31:57
Adam
Yeah, we're basically asking most guys to pull it together for four years and others to pull it together for eight years. But when you look at the guy is going to live until he's 85, the eight years isn't much. It's equivalent to college and some grad school.
1:32:13
Drew
You got a few other things to occupy your time while you're there.
1:32:15
Adam
Meanwhile, you go to China a couple of times and shake a few hands. You're not going to get too bored. You can whack off on Air Force One. I think they have a whole room dedicated to that. The point is, is you're going to be judged and written about and go down in history for the rest of your life, your family, your legacy. 500 years from now, people will talk about you and they're going to judge you on this very small period of time and you're going to bang an intern, a chubby intern. What kind of thinking is that? That's almost retarded thinking. And you know he's got a problem or he wouldn't risk it. You know what I mean? That's the power of the drama, if you think about it. He doesn't care if he's in the White House. He doesn't care that there's cameras all over the place. He doesn't care that he's being crucified now in front of the press and the nation. He needed the BJ. You know what I'm saying? That's the powerful, that's how powerful that impulse is.
1:33:09
Drew
It's also the grandiosity and the misuse of power and stuff. I mean I heard him apologize tonight. I feel so sorry for the guy, but he still can't go all the way with the apologies. Yeah, but he goes, he goes, I'm so sorry, but I'm so used to giving forgiveness to other people. All right. And I'm finding that we're asking for forgiveness.
1:33:23
Adam
He was practically crying. What do you want him to do? Start crying and bend over?
1:33:27
Drew
I'm sorry for the guy, but it's not, he's not, it's really still not.
1:33:31
Adam
But listen, politicians aren't allowed to speak like human beings. They're really not. And I wish one would. We talked about this before. I wish a guy just get up there and he'd have a little sweat on his upper lip and his tie would be loose. And he'd say, you know what? Listen, I screwed up. I can't lie to you. And those of you who are married know.
1:33:50
They Might Be Giants
I feel like he was set up though. He was like, I mean, how many people, you know, he's like lying about sex. Is that a reason? Is that a reason to knock him out of office?
1:34:00
Adam
I don't think.
1:34:01
They Might Be Giants
I mean, I think it's absolutely crazy, embarrassing, weird.
1:34:06
Drew
We'll find out what lengths he went to lie about it.
1:34:09
Adam
I don't think that him lying about an affair is good cause to knock a guy out of the office. I think a long history of abuse of power is a reason. And I think that's what it's starting to look like. And listen, I don't want him knocked out any more than the next guy, but I think things are starting to unfurl like he's been at this for a long time. And I don't like a guy abusing his power that way. That is not kosher. All right, don't mind the blowjob part, though. I'm all for that. Don't misunderstand me. I know there's a lot of kids listening, and I don't want them to misconstrue what I'm saying. A little break, please. Okay.
1:34:53
Caller
Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back on Loveline in just a minute or two.
1:34:57
Caller
Call 1-800-LOVE-191.
1:35:00
Caller
WEBN.
1:35:21
Adam
I've never been in a gay bar in my life.
1:35:23
Drew
Walk fast.
1:35:25
Adam
Oh, John, John. Thank you very much for coming in. Thank you very much.
1:35:30
They Might Be Giants
It's always a pleasure. Hey, our publicist asked me to remind everyone out there that we have a Dial a Song service online at dialsong.com. It's exactly what it sounds like.
1:35:41
Adam
They Might Be Giants, Severe Tire Damage is the name of the latest, and guys, we have a lot of bands on the show, and I have a lot of CDs that I get free, and they usually float around the trunk of my car until somebody steps on them. But this one's going right into the CD player.
1:35:58
They Might Be Giants
It's got horns.
1:35:58
Adam
It's got the horns. It sounds great. And it's all the best of, plus some new stuff too. We do appreciate it.
1:36:05
They Might Be Giants
Excellent. Well, thanks so much for having us.
1:36:07
Our pleasure.
1:36:08
Adam
Best of luck. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.
1:36:15
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