Episode 1000754887656

0:01 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content. Listener discretion advised. Now, here's Loveline. 1-800-LOVE-191 with Dr. Drew and Adam Carolla.

0:14 Voiceover What are you insane?

1:03 Adam I don't care, but 25 weeks doesn't mean anything to me.

1:06 Seven months.

1:06 Adam That's seven months?

1:07 Mm-hmm, barely seven months.

1:09 All right.

1:11 And lately, I've been experiencing a loss in appetite. I have no desire to have sex anymore. I'm just, and I'm, what is it? I'm very fatigued. I just don't feel like doing anything. Is this part of the hormones of being pregnant?

1:27 Drew Well, it can be. Have you been back to see your obstetrician?

1:30 Yes, I have, and I've talked to her about this, and she says, it's really nothing to worry about, but I'm worried I'm getting depressed.

1:37 Drew Well, postpartum depressions are usually postpartum, okay? That's afterwards, when all these hormones are suddenly let down, and anything up, actually up to a year after delivery can be considered a postpartum depression. And yes, indeed, these are the kinds of symptoms associated with depression. Is there anything else? Are you crying a lot? Are you having anxiety?

1:56 I have a normal pregnancy cry, if that makes any sense.

2:01 Drew Are you sleeping poorly?

2:03 I have nightmares.

2:04 Drew I mean, it might be the beginning of something, but at this stage, if you can avoid being treated, of course, that's what you want to do. You want to protect your child from being exposed to anything in utero that it wouldn't even have to be. But it is definitely something. Did you push this issue with your obstetrician a little bit?

2:21 Not really. I'm going to next time I come in because the nightmares just started recently.

2:26 Adam What are they?

2:28 What are the nightmares?

2:29 Drew Yeah.

2:30 Huh?

2:30 Yes.

2:32 Just things with the baby, involving the baby, like my grandmother, she's real sick right now, getting a phone call saying she's dead. My husband getting into a car accident.

2:43 Adam What's that have to do with the baby? The baby was driving?

2:47 No.

2:48 The ones with the baby are like one of my exes coming back and trying to take the baby from me.

2:52 Drew There's always attachment and abandonment issues. They're going to stay with you for a while.

2:56 Yeah.

2:58 Drew Again, there can be thyroid problems. There can be all sorts of other endocrinologic disturbances.

3:02 Adam About seven months pregnant. She's 19. Yeah.

3:05 It's sort of normal to be anxious.

3:06 Drew Yeah.

3:07 Adam It would seem like it. Yeah.

3:08 Just that's with the baby.

3:10 Adam Women are kind of nutty anyway.

3:13 Drew Now, dad is attracted to you.

3:14 Now she's attracted to you.

3:15 Adam Well, I mean, they tend to be moody and, you know, troublesome and now you're pregnant and you got all these hormones going through you and you got the big belly and the water and everything. And I mean, all bets are off at this point. And give it a few months, see, you know, have the baby, mellow out and then see what happens.

3:34 Drew Troublesome, big belly, water and everything. All bets are off. But you feel better now. That's very clear. It's a brilliant deduction.

3:40 Adam Well, I'm just saying, Drew, we all know women, you know, a few days out of the month can get a little whacked out with the hormones and everything, right?

3:48 Drew This is a much larger scale.

3:50 Adam It is, isn't it?

3:51 Drew Oh, yeah.

3:51 Adam I mean, if that, let's just make a reference. Let's make like a drug analogy here for a second. If your period is like pot, being pregnant is like heroin, right?

4:02 Drew Yeah.

4:03 Adam Is it? I mean, in terms of the hormones produced and the changes that occur?

4:08 Drew Yeah.

4:09 Adam And your wife had triplets?

4:12 Yeah.

4:13 Drew You weren't around then.

4:14 Adam Oh, my God. And you guys live in the same house, right?

4:18 Drew She was a really, she hated pregnancy, but she was, I mean, she was a serious trooper. I mean, she was an incubator for four of those months.

4:26 Adam She was in an incubator?

4:28 Drew She was a living, a human incubator. That's all she was. I mean, she was just used. I mean, the stuff we had to, we put IVs and the needles in every day and just keep all these medicines going.

4:39 Adam Why? Because the whole deal is you don't want to have the kid premature, right?

4:43 Drew You want to keep in there in the last possible moment. She laid herself out for it.

4:46 Adam And you have to do a bunch of stuff to sort of stop them from coming out.

4:49 Drew Yeah.

4:50 Adam Oh, man. I don't know. I don't know about this whole procreation thing. I mean, I get the screwing part. Even that, I'd rather just take the oral sex. I'm that against it. Justin, you're 17. What's going on?

5:09 Caller I've got a problem.

5:11 All right.

5:14 Caller I'm gay. Okay. And I'm not afraid to tell my parents and grandparents.

5:20 Adam Hold on. Dido is from England. Let me. Gay people are guys that like other guys.

5:25 Caller He's still the same in England.

5:26 Adam Oh, same thing.

5:27 Caller Don't worry.

5:28 Adam All right. Just want to make sure.

5:29 Caller I'm not thinking he's happy.

5:30 Adam I didn't know they had that.

5:32 Caller All right.

5:32 Adam Go ahead there, Justin.

5:34 Caller Okay. I don't want to tell my parents or my grandparents because I think they'll totally freak out.

5:40 Drew Right. Have they said things like that would lead you to believe explicitly that they would be dangerous or hurtful?

5:49 Caller They're really, they're not open-minded.

5:51 Drew I understand that. But if they actually said some, we have some callers that say their parents would say they would kill somebody, they would disown them. They said that sort of thing?

6:01 Caller They have no clue at all.

6:03 Drew Alright. What's the hurry?

6:05 Caller Well, I mean, I just want to wonder if I should ever tell them or not.

6:10 Drew I think it would be definitely a good thing if you could ever tell them.

6:15 Caller Okay.

6:15 Drew Okay. Not tomorrow necessarily. And maybe not when you're 18, but once you really have established a life for yourself and a supportive network of friends who love you for who you are, then go ahead.

6:26 Adam How do you know you're gay?

6:28 Caller I've been with 700 men since I was 14.

6:30 Drew How many?

6:31 Caller 700.

6:32 Drew Okay. They might be-

6:33 Adam Hold on a second. Let me do a little math. Since she was, since he was 14?

6:38 Drew Yeah, this is not gay. This has been sexually abused and is now sexual compulsive.

6:42 Adam Hold on a second.

6:43 Drew And it's a different thing. The patient, parents, by the way, may be a little more concerned with the numbers than the orientation.

6:51 Adam Yeah, he's, he's doing like 233 a year.

6:55 Drew Yeah, that's one of the, one of every...

6:57 Adam Hold on. Do you realize if...

6:59 Drew Two or three days.

6:59 Adam If you put those penises end to end, it would go... It could go to the moon.

7:06 Drew A bridge. A bridge to the moon.

7:09 Jesus Christ, Drew.

7:11 Adam Come on, that's sick, man. That's not, that's not what I was going to say.

7:14 Drew What were you going to say?

7:15 Adam No, I was going to say, I was going to say, yeah, I was going to say like New York or something. But the moon's better. Jesus Christ. Hold on. Justin?

7:24 Yes.

7:25 Adam Now hold on.

7:26 Caller Okay.

7:26 Adam Since you were 14, you've been with 700 men?

7:33 Yes.

7:33 Adam Or one guy that was 700 pounds?

7:36 Caller No, 700 men.

7:38 Adam 700 men?

7:39 Caller Yes.

7:40 Adam And how do you, how do you keep that kind of tally? I mean, how do you know you've been with 700 men?

7:48 Caller I'm good. I write down all their names.

7:51 Adam You write down all their names? So there must be like, there must be like, Steve must be on there like 49 times, right?

7:59 Caller No.

8:00 Drew Do you get paid for this?

8:01 Caller No.

8:01 Adam Ever? No.

8:03 Drew And at what age were you sexually abused first?

8:06 Caller I have never been sexually abused. Oh, please.

8:07 Adam Oh, something happened.

8:09 Caller No.

8:10 Adam Seriously, Justin, please, do you have a brain tumor?

8:14 Caller No.

8:14 Drew Are you bipolar?

8:16 Caller What?

8:16 Drew Are you manic-depressive?

8:17 Caller No.

8:18 Drew Okay, then something made you a sexual compulsive?

8:21 Caller No.

8:22 Drew Were you physically abused as a kid?

8:24 Caller No.

8:25 Adam What's up?

8:26 Caller Mental.

8:27 Drew Mental abuse.

8:28 Adam Mental abuse?

8:28 Caller Mental bashing, more or less.

8:30 Adam But serious?

8:31 Caller My stepfather always abused me, like mentally, just called me real stupid ass names and stuff like that.

8:38 Drew But probably like really heavy duty, like locking your closets and things? Yeah.

8:43 Caller Locking myself in rooms and shit and trying to hide from them.

8:48 Adam So where do you meet these guys?

8:51 Caller Internet, hometown, places I've lived. I've made three times in the last six months.

8:56 Adam And what do you...

8:57 Drew You don't live with your parents?

8:58 Caller No.

8:59 Drew Why do you give a RF, a rat's hiney?

9:04 Adam RF?

9:04 Drew I don't know what I was thinking of. A rat's hiney about what the hell your abusive parents...

9:11 Caller Because I have a lot of... I love my mother to death.

9:14 Drew Do you think this information is going to help nurture that relationship?

9:18 Adam No. And listen, you don't love your mother. She brought that horrible son of a bitch stepfather home.

9:23 Drew Absolutely.

9:24 Adam You've got to be piss at your mouth.

9:26 Caller He's been... He's the one that's raised me for 14 years. You know, he's raised me.

9:32 Adam I know, but who met him? You or her?

9:35 Caller My mother.

9:36 Adam Okay. So you love your mom for bringing this guy home?

9:39 Caller Well, no. I mean, me and my mom are very open, you know. But there's things that I can't tell her.

9:45 Adam All right. Well, don't tell her about this. And, you know, I'll tell you, do what I would do if I were you, which was I'd tell them I was gay, but I wouldn't tell them I was with 700 guys. I'd just round down to like 375 or something, you know, a little more palatable.

9:59 Drew The issue that's going to be so disturbing to them is not your orientation. It's going to be the numbers here.

10:02 Caller Here's another question. Should I have told my brothers? Only two of my brothers know, and I have six brothers.

10:07 Adam Well, you know, there's a 50% chance you've been with one of them.

10:10 Caller Nope.

10:10 Adam I mean, no. No. Now, listen, don't tell anybody for a while until you get things straightened out.

10:18 Drew You need to get some help, Justin.

10:20 Adam By the way, what are you doing with these guys?

10:22 Drew No, I don't want to know.

10:23 Dido No, I want to know.

10:24 Drew I don't want to know.

10:25 Adam What are you doing?

10:25 Drew I don't want to know.

10:26 Dido I don't want to know.

10:27 Drew I don't want to know.

10:28 Adam Well, then take your goddamn headphones off.

10:31 Dido Shut up.

10:31 Adam What are you doing?

10:34 Caller Everything, 69 and everything, you know.

10:38 Adam Well, hold on, George. You're gay. Thanks. Are you having anal sex?

10:46 Caller Yes, anal.

10:47 Adam With 700 guys?

10:49 Drew Yeah.

10:50 Adam How can you do that?

10:51 Drew Very carefully. Have you had an HIV test?

10:56 Caller I've had two of them.

10:57 Dido When was the last one?

10:59 Caller Last year.

11:01 Drew How about Hepatitis Green?

11:03 Caller Possibly. I might have it. My mother has it.

11:06 Drew Hepatitis C?

11:07 Yes.

11:08 Drew Okay. This is a perfect family now. Mom was a drug addict?

11:12 Caller No. How did she get hit?

11:14 Drew She got stuck with a needle?

11:16 Caller I'm not too sure on that because they really don't know where she contracted it at.

11:22 Drew Not B, but C, right?

11:24 Yes.

11:26 Caller The one that screws up your liver.

11:27 Drew Yeah, C is IV drug users.

11:30 Caller I don't... Well, my mom's never been an IV drug user.

11:33 Drew Do you know that for a fact?

11:34 Caller Yes.

11:36 Adam Okay.

11:37 Caller All right.

11:37 Adam Justin.

11:38 Caller She's a licensed vocational nurse.

11:39 Drew Nurse down there.

11:40 Justin.

11:41 Adam Justin. Justin.

11:43 Yes.

11:44 Adam Stop having sex with... Like limit yourself to like, I don't know, 10 guys a week or something. I really want you to cut back. I mean, really, really slow down, would you? Look, you're going to get something. You got to get into therapy. Yeah. This is a disaster.

12:00 Drew You need some help, Justin, really. Call SA. We didn't even talk about his drug history, whether he's into drugs. I mean, it's got to be there. I mean, he's got hepatitis C already. I mean, come on.

12:12 Adam Page 17.

12:13 Drew By the way, Justin, please at least go get the hepatitis B vaccine if you haven't had that yet. I mean, it's a death mission.

12:22 Adam Yeah. All right. Still interesting in its own bizarre, macabre way. Isn't the show screwed up? Can you imagine?

12:32 Caller I feel sorry for E9.

12:33 Adam Oh, you feel sorry for Justin? What about me?

12:36 Caller Yeah, and you.

12:37 Adam I have to talk to these guys night after night. I mean, Justin screwed up. He doesn't even know it. But I have to live with this pain, right, Drew? OK.

12:46 Drew I think you seem to project it onto me.

12:47 Adam I think we're going to play Dido. So are you attracted to either one of us yet?

12:51 Caller Still not, sorry.

12:51 Adam Still not? Neither one of us?

12:53 Caller Work harder.

12:55 Adam Did she say work harder? OK. Wow. Who's she been talking to? By the way, I'm getting the big left-hand surgery on Friday, so I'm going to start making the switch to the right hand maybe tonight.

13:11 Drew Tonight?

13:12 Adam Yeah.

13:12 Drew Big night.

13:13 Adam Yeah. Anderson, our engineer, told me last night, he said, listen, normally I'm a left-handed guy. You know what I'm saying? Anderson said to me, listen, you get a couple of those Vicodins in you and go with your right hand. It's like being with a hooker. I mean, it's a totally different experience. I started to think about it. I thought you may be on to something.

13:35 Drew Oh my God.

13:36 Adam But listen, if Anderson, if nothing happens, if like an hour and a half I'm calling you, you're going to have to come over and finish me off. You understand? All right. Well, do we hear a Dido song? Yeah. Can we do that?

13:48 Caller Yeah, I think so.

13:50 Adam What song are we going to hear, Anne?

13:51 Dido Anne will tell us.

13:53 Adam Okay.

13:54 Drew What was it?

13:55 Adam It's-

13:56 Drew She did not say that in the air.

13:57 Adam No, I know. I'm going to repeat it. It's called Here With Me.

18:15 Caller It's Loveline, right?

18:26 Dido It is Love Line.

18:27 Adam I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. And I'm just waiting for the music. Phone number, 1-800-L-A-V-E-1-9-1. Forget about the fax number. Drew, because when's the last time you've seen a fax on this show?

18:41 Drew About six weeks ago.

18:43 Adam Six weeks?

18:43 Drew Maybe more.

18:44 Adam Yeah.

18:45 Drew 310-854-4455.

18:47 Adam Adam, Adam has a hairy ass and sucks.

18:50 Drew Yeah.

18:50 Adam Yeah. I don't need any of that.

18:52 Drew Those are inspiring.

18:53 Adam That's just from the immediate family. Yeah. So I'm not interested in that. Dido is our guest tonight. She did the... She was the lovely voice behind the song we just got done hearing. And No Angel is the name of the new CD. It is out. I got some dates where Dido is going to be. And Dido, I was reading in your bio, is a queen that killed herself by throwing herself on a pit of fire.

19:19 Caller Apparently so. She was an African queen.

19:22 Adam And where did you read about? You read about her? You heard about her?

19:26 Caller Yeah, she was in Latin literature. So, and I studied Latin.

19:30 Adam Oh, really?

19:31 Yeah.

19:32 Adam Yeah. I know those were some tough years for me, too. Drew, remember Latin?

19:37 Drew I didn't study Latin.

19:38 Adam Oh, you didn't?

19:38 Drew I'm not happy to say. Yeah.

19:40 Adam But your folks spoke Latin around the house.

19:42 Drew Yeah, it was my first language.

19:45 Adam All right. So, do you have a college degree? No, I don't. No, you don't. But you're from England. So, like, if you have an eighth grade degree, that's like having a college degree. Yeah.

19:55 Dido All right.

19:56 Adam Drew?

19:56 Dido Yeah.

19:56 Adam You ready to go? Joe?

19:58 Yeah.

19:59 Adam You're 25.

20:00 Caller Hi, guys. Hi, Adam.

20:01 I'm Dr. Drew.

20:02 Caller Hi, Dido. Hello. I got a question for you. I'm going down the road of looking to start a family. And I am currently on a medication called anzothioprine or imuran.

20:16 Drew Azothioprine, yeah.

20:18 Caller And my question to you is, I've got kind of mixed results from my doctor and things I've read. I've read where it causes birth defects in women when they take it.

20:28 Drew Yes, definitely.

20:30 Caller Does it do the same for men?

20:31 Drew Not that I'm aware of, but I believe it can suppress your sperm count.

20:35 Caller Okay.

20:35 Adam What's it for, Drew?

20:36 Drew It's for autoimmune diseases. Like, do you have ulcerative colitis or lupus or what is it?

20:43 Caller Autoimmune hepatitis.

20:44 Drew Autoimmune hepatitis. It used to be called lupus hepatitis or lupoid hepatitis.

20:49 Adam Wait, what is there? Is it A, B or C?

20:51 Drew None of those. It's autoimmune.

20:53 Adam That's what Jay has in the box. Actually, it's a little, let's make a deal. That's our reference there.

20:59 Drew You mixed up Johnny Carson.

21:01 Adam No, what's behind the curtain? I think, all right.

21:04 Drew What was the name of the woman that would stand there? Carolles, right.

21:08 Adam No, no, Jay was who had the box. All right, let's just move on with the show. So anyway, he has a...

21:16 Drew So he has a thyroid pain. You've been on it for how long?

21:19 Caller About three months now.

21:20 Drew Okay, is it working?

21:21 Caller I think about 70 milligrams a day.

21:23 Drew That's a bit, that's big. That's good size.

21:25 Caller Is it?

21:26 Drew Well, yeah. You take 75, right?

21:29 Caller Yeah.

21:29 Drew Yeah, it's good size.

21:31 Caller Okay.

21:32 Adam Why? How do you know it takes 75?

21:34 Drew Because it comes in 50 milligram tablets.

21:36 Adam Because it breaks one in here.

21:37 Caller One and a half, yeah.

21:38 Adam All right. See how smart Drew is, everybody? Joe?

21:41 Caller Yes.

21:42 Adam All right, so you'll be fine.

21:43 Caller Yeah, I'm great.

21:44 Drew Yeah, I think you'll be all right.

21:45 Adam You know what I like about being a guy? You can, you know, even do heroin and hit your scrotum with a hammer and you still get to have kids and they can be geniuses. You know, but the woman, she like smokes, takes a drag off a cigarette and the kids are retarded. That's kind of nice, isn't it?

22:02 Drew Yeah, I think good they didn't entrust this stuff to men. Think about that.

22:06 Adam Yeah. Oh yeah. We'd have a bunch of kids with webbed feet running around banging into each other.

22:12 Drew Yeah, it would look like some sort of alien planet in a course of a generation.

22:15 Adam Yeah, it'd be just a big, we'd have to start like, you know, mongoloid colonies and things like that. It would be a mess because every one of my friends, first off, every single one of my friends from North Hollywood would have been pregnant by 17. I guarantee you that. I mean, my male friends, if everything was reversed. And with the amount of alcohol that they drank or drugs that they put in their system, the kids would just come out, they'd have like an anus where their mouth was. And when they start talking, you get out of the way.

22:47 Drew The Corolla Syndrome.

22:50 Adam Oh, I mean, I can't even imagine. I never really thought about this, but you know, Chris and Ray and guys like that, forget it. It all would have been pregnant by 15, and the kids would have just come out, just been like a big lump of flesh. It would have flushed it down the toilet.

23:05 Drew They would have left them wherever they landed.

23:07 Adam Probably.

23:08 Drew Where they came out of them. They just were there, staying right there.

23:10 Adam Yeah. I'm sure they would have tried to sell them first. Let's be fair. Nicole?

23:15 Yeah.

23:15 Adam You're 15.

23:16 Caller Yeah.

23:17 Adam What's going on?

23:18 Caller Okay. I'm bisexual, and I've been with both guys and girls, but I hate penises. I do not like them whatsoever.

23:26 Drew You must have had an encounter with one at a very young age that was very unpleasant.

23:29 Caller And I'm still a virgin, but I've seen them. I've played with them, but I do not like them.

23:34 Adam All right. Let's do a little gambling. It's been a while. Dido, reach into that whatever. Where do you keep your money? Do you got a pocket, a purse, a wallet?

23:44 In my bag.

23:46 Adam You got a dollar?

23:47 No.

23:47 Adam No?

23:48 Caller I've got 50.

23:49 Dido 50?

23:50 Adam That'll work.

23:51 Drew A pound?

23:53 Adam Seriously, do you have anything smaller than a 50?

23:55 Caller I've got a 20.

23:56 Adam Drew, can you make change? No. I've got a lot of money, too.

24:00 Caller Have a traveler's check.

24:01 Adam Can you write one out for a dollar? Just make it out to cash.

24:05 Caller You can have five pounds. That's the lowest I can do.

24:08 Adam All right. What is that, like $800?

24:11 Caller Yeah, about that.

24:12 Adam I only got a five. Drew, can you break five? Do you have any change? What about your son? Has he got anything in his piggy bank? Shake him by the feet.

24:20 Caller No, I do.

24:21 Adam Oh, you do? All right. All right. So here's what we're doing.

24:23 Caller You take this.

24:24 Adam Okay. That's good. How do we do that, Drew? Is that my money?

24:29 Caller All right.

24:29 Adam We're going to work this out. Here's the, here's the, who are we talking to? Who was that, Drew? Nicole. Nicole?

24:36 Drew Nicole.

24:37 Adam Okay. Nicole's 15. She's bisexual. She's never been with a man or she said she was, she said she's been with men and women at the beginning of the call, but then has said she'd never had sex with a man. So she's not, you know, really been with a man, but she's scared of penises or disgusted by them or doesn't like them. All right?

24:59 Drew All right.

25:00 Adam Drew, you want to? Now, now here's what we're doing, by the way, Dido. We are gambling on her past, not the last eight months, but her upbringing, her childhood.

25:09 Drew This is going to be something bizarre.

25:10 Adam Why is she scared of penises? And it might be hard to get out of her and she's bisexual. 15, something's up. Who wants to go first?

25:19 Drew Go ahead.

25:19 Adam You want me to go?

25:20 Drew Yeah.

25:20 Adam Scared of penises. Trapped under a large penis.

25:23 Caller Oh, good one.

25:25 Adam At a logging camp in the river was swelling and she could have drowned if that guy hadn't come by with that bobcat at the just at the right time. I'm going to say, yeah, step dad, step dad, step dad, somebody, I'm going to go real simple here. Somebody exposed themselves to her neighbor, neighbor, older neighbor.

25:48 Drew One episode and did this to her?

25:51 Adam Step dad, step dad, made her touch him. All right. Made her touch him. That was it.

25:59 Drew Okay.

25:59 Adam Okay.

25:59 Drew I'm going to say hippie parents that had sex in front of her repeatedly.

26:02 Adam Oh, nice. Dido, say you can go, you can go with normal, healthy, no problems, parents together. If you, you know, if you want, it's not a bad call.

26:12 Caller Well, maybe she's just a bit young, you know. Maybe she's just a bit scary or seen as sort of gruesome.

26:17 Adam Okay. So you're going with the...

26:19 Caller I'm going with the she's, she's, she's just a bit young and it's cool.

26:23 Adam No trauma.

26:23 Caller Yeah. Not too much to them anyway.

26:25 Adam Nothing involving the penis?

26:26 Caller No.

26:27 Adam Okay, all right, let's find out. Nicole?

26:31 Caller Yeah?

26:32 Adam Okay, now are your folks still together?

26:34 Caller No.

26:35 Adam No. Did your mother remarry?

26:39 Caller No, she didn't.

26:40 Adam Okay, so no stepdad?

26:42 Caller No stepdad.

26:43 Adam Okay, how long have your folks been apart?

26:47 Caller Four years.

26:48 Adam Four years? Yeah. Why did your parents break up? Do you know?

26:52 Caller Just problems. They, their families didn't like each other. They just had problems, always fought all the time, didn't get along.

27:02 Drew Was somebody doing drugs? Was somebody doing drugs?

27:05 Caller They were, yeah, they were heavy drug users.

27:06 Drew Heroin addicts, huh?

27:08 Caller Yeah.

27:08 Drew Yeah.

27:09 Adam They listen to any Grateful Dead?

27:11 Caller Huh?

27:12 Adam Grateful Dead? Did they have a Grateful Dead CD?

27:15 Caller No.

27:16 Adam No. Were they hippies?

27:18 Caller No.

27:18 Adam You ever see them having sex?

27:20 Caller No.

27:21 Adam All right. What about, did anybody ever touch you or ask you to touch them?

27:29 Caller When I was nine, I was raped.

27:31 Adam Who raped you?

27:32 Caller I don't know.

27:33 Drew Well, you kind of screwed us up with that. You said you were a virgin.

27:37 Adam Well, she's still a virgin, isn't it?

27:40 Caller I'm a virgin, too. I believe I am.

27:44 Adam I'll go with that.

27:45 Drew It's okay.

27:46 Adam Well, Drew's pissed because he may lose a dollar. Meanwhile, poor Nicole was raped. Come on, Drew.

27:50 Drew It's easy to go sexual abuse. I mean, if something happened before she was nine, I'm sure.

27:54 Adam What happened before you were nine?

27:56 Caller Nothing.

27:57 Adam Nothing?

27:57 Caller Nothing.

27:58 Drew You had heroin addict parents hung out with heroin addicts. Huh? They were heroin addicts, your parents?

28:04 Caller No.

28:04 Drew What were they addicted to? What were they addicted to?

28:07 Caller They were of cocaine, crack.

28:10 Drew So they were hanging out with crack addicts and the weird stuff wasn't happening in your house?

28:16 Caller Pretty much, yeah.

28:16 Drew Okay.

28:17 Adam So, who raped you when you were nine?

28:21 Caller I don't know. I was... I just know that I was raped. I seen the guy leaving my house and I didn't do nothing about it though, but I was like nine and I was little and I didn't know what to do.

28:33 Adam Someone just came into your room?

28:35 Caller Yeah, the window was open, the curtains were open, the screen was slashed three times so someone could get in and it was both me and my sister.

28:44 Drew And you blacked out during it?

28:46 Caller Yeah.

28:46 Adam And both of you were raped?

28:48 Caller Yeah.

28:49 Adam And this is somebody, you think a stranger, who just came in through the window?

28:56 Caller Yeah, pretty much, because, I mean, there's like a couple of guys outside my house at night and then like...

29:04 Adam Were they some of your parents' drug addict friends?

29:06 Caller No, I was at my grandma's house. I was living with my grandma at this time.

29:10 Adam Because you couldn't live with your parents?

29:12 Caller Yeah.

29:13 Adam Okay. And so anything though before the age of nine?

29:18 Caller Nothing.

29:19 Drew What kind of weird stuff were you witnessed to before the age of nine?

29:22 Caller Nothing much. I was just always near my parents. They like come out of the room sometimes and, you know, go stare at the window. You know, like they're wired and everything that but nothing else really.

29:38 Adam Okay. So anyway, so she was she was she was traumatized.

29:43 Drew Major abuse. Major, major.

29:44 Adam Yeah.

29:45 Drew Multiple, multiple types.

29:47 Adam Yeah. And she was raped and I guess traumatized, you know, sexually. And it's pretty. Listen, I'd be I don't like guys anyway. And I was never raped. But if someone broke, you know, slashed the screen and came into the window and raped me, my sister and my grandparents house, I'd be done with guys too.

30:04 Drew Yeah.

30:04 Adam And I think that's what she's saying.

30:06 Drew But she's become a sexual compulsive. She's still with guys and girls and it's just a mess. And with that chaos in her history is just so destructive. It's amazing she can get up one day to the next.

30:17 Adam All right. Hey, Nicole?

30:18 Caller Yeah?

30:18 Adam All right. You need to get some help, right?

30:21 Caller Okay.

30:22 Adam Because you've been raped, you've grown up in an abusive environment and you're probably going to be an addict.

30:29 Drew Well, I didn't quite get addicted.

30:30 Adam Well, both her parents are.

30:32 Drew Well, it's 50% still for her.

30:34 Adam At least half of you is going to be an addict. Is that what you're saying, Drew?

30:36 Drew It's 50% probability whether one or both parents are addicts.

30:39 Adam Let me see.

30:39 Caller How's your sister, Nicole?

30:41 Caller She's 14.

30:42 Caller Okay. She got problems as well?

30:46 Caller No, not that I know of. Actually, she's got a boyfriend and her life's pretty okay.

30:54 Adam How old's her boyfriend?

30:56 Caller 15.

30:57 Adam All right. I don't trust him. All right, Nicole? Shouldn't she go to, you know, Al-Anon or something like that? I mean, shouldn't she get into some of that stuff? I mean, both her parents were, you know, smoking crack, Drew.

31:12 Drew Yeah.

31:13 Adam Yeah? Why don't you tell her to do that?

31:15 Drew I just get overwhelmed by this. I mean, the amount of resource she needs for help is enormous.

31:21 Adam Okay.

31:21 Drew Enormous.

31:22 Adam All right. Nicole, don't get pregnant. I'm glad you're scared of penises. I know it sounds cruel, but the problem, and this is why this country is a dump and why I'm moving to England or we're both moving to Canada. It's one or the other. It's either I move, either I go to your place or we're both going to Canada. We can work out the details later. But Drew, you're staying here, by the way. But Nicole gets raped and grows up with screwed up parents and gets abused. And then lo and behold, she's pregnant at sixteen and a half.

31:55 Drew Does it all over again.

31:56 Adam It's a cycle. None of our business is a society to tell her anything. And she has a couple of kids before she's eighteen. And now she has some screwed up kids and the cycle continues. And if every woman that was brought up in this kind of horrible environment, just turned lesbian and had a penis phobia, hey, it'd be utopian about twenty years. Fine. We'd have a bunch of screwed up lesbians running around. I'd be getting a cramp beat out of me with the golf clubs, but we wouldn't have a bunch of criminals and prostitutes running all over this crampy country.

32:27 Drew You'd have some prostitutes.

32:28 Adam They'd have some prostitutes? Yeah, but they wouldn't like it. You know what I mean? Because they're lesbian.

32:34 Drew There's a lot of that out there already.

32:36 Adam There is?

32:36 Drew Oh, yeah.

32:37 Adam They always say they like it.

32:39 Drew Oh, please.

32:39 Adam They always say I'm the best.

32:41 Drew It's because you tip-buck.

32:42 Adam Big tipper. Yeah, you're right. It's 15% still, isn't it? I'll go 20 sometimes if this is good. All right. I'm taking...

32:51 Drew Oh, forget it. Leave it till the next round.

32:53 Adam Really?

32:53 Drew Let it ride.

32:54 Adam I said...

32:55 Drew Let it ride.

32:55 Adam I was the only one who went with the sexual abuse. I mean, I didn't say rape. I said some guy showed her the penis.

33:03 Drew You and I are both going in that direction, but we couldn't go all the way because she told us she was a virgin.

33:07 Caller Oh, I was very wrong. So, you know, if they go, that's enough.

33:11 Adam Can I take that?

33:12 Drew No, it's 10 pounds. 10 bucks.

33:13 Caller No, it's five.

33:14 Adam That's five.

33:14 Drew Is it too...

33:15 Caller Sure, I'll get it back afterwards.

33:17 Adam Okay, that's right. I'll put it... I'll put it... It'll be a down on the ranch we buy in Canada. All right, we'll take a little break. Dido is here. No Angel is the name of the CD. And when we come back, we'll speak to Laura. Laura's 18. Husband is a terrible ulcer and isn't supposed to drink, but he's an alcoholic. She wants to know how to deal with that. We'll do that after this.

33:40 Caller Loveline be right back in a minute.

33:55 Caller Oh, you're right there.

33:56 Caller It's Love Line on WEBM.

34:08 Adam It is Loveline. I'm Adam. That is Drew Dido is our guest tonight. No Angels, the name of her new CD. And I think, let me give you a few, I'll give some Dido dates, by the way. She's going to be at the Troubadour tomorrow night, but that's sold out, so forget about that. But you can all see her in Minneapolis on the 27th, Chicago on the 28th, still in August 29th. Hold on, Drew. And I'm just, no, just listen to me, just listen to me, would you please? Are you intentionally making noise over there? Like, you know, when you set the coffee mug down, you have to drop it, you have to, you know, you do this thing with the pen where you do like that, and then you throw it and everything. What are you doing? This is radio. You're supposed to...

34:58 Drew Look up a word.

34:59 Adam I know, but...

34:59 Drew Dido dates.

35:01 Adam But when you...

35:01 Drew Alliteration.

35:03 Adam But when you set things down, just set them down softly, or don't bang things. You know what I'm saying?

35:09 Drew I was excited when I get to the dictionary.

35:10 Adam Where was I? You didn't know alliteration? I could have told you that.

35:14 Drew I thought I was going to say consonants or alliteration.

35:18 Adam You know, that's just... Okay. Okay, now where's Dido going to be now? She's going to be in Chicago on the 28th, Detroit on the 29th, Cincinnati on the 30th, and now we're into September. You want to celebrate that by banging something on the console there? There you go, Drew. Atlanta, the first, the second, she'll be in DC and New York on the 8th, and Boston. Drew's college down, right Drew? On the 10th.

35:44 Drew Yeah, actually a little west of there.

35:46 Adam Okay. What are you looking up there, Drew?

35:48 Drew Continence.

35:49 Caller Incontinence.

35:51 Drew Harmony? Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

35:53 Adam Okay.

35:53 Drew Laura? Currents and repetition of consonants, especially at the end of stressed syllables. Alliterations at the beginning.

35:59 Adam Okay. Let's just start covering things with foam rubber. You know, like in the mental ward, you know, they have to, you know, put stuff at the pad things and confiscate your belt and things like that. So, you know, kill yourself.

36:14 Drew Yeah.

36:14 Adam We just are preparing this place for you.

36:16 Drew Okay.

36:16 Adam Make it sort of like the nerf studio.

36:18 Drew It would make you happy because that that that Tourette's you've got.

36:22 Adam Okay, quiet.

36:23 Drew You fracture at the slightest little distraction.

36:25 Adam Quiet. Insubordinate.

36:28 Drew Yes, Your Royal Highness.

36:29 Adam Thank you. You say it too. Dido, come on, call me Your Royal Highness.

36:36 Caller Your Royal Highness.

36:36 Adam Thank you.

36:37 Caller Master.

36:38 Adam There you go. Laura?

36:41 Yeah.

36:41 Adam All right. What's going on?

36:43 Well, my husband has been drinking nonstop since I've met him.

36:47 Drew How old is he?

36:48 He is now 20. Today is the 21st birthday.

36:51 Drew Why is he your husband?

36:52 Well, you know, we've been together for four years.

36:55 We're almost married for a couple months away.

36:57 Drew Well, he's dependent on alcohol.

37:00 Yeah.

37:01 Drew Might this be the opportunity to make an issue about that?

37:05 Well, yeah. We've been trying to do that.

37:09 Drew We've been trying to do that?

37:10 Sorry, what?

37:11 Drew What do you mean we've been trying to do that?

37:12 Well, we've tried NA. We went to NA because he also had a pretty big problem.

37:16 Drew Why did you go to NA?

37:18 What was that?

37:18 Drew Why did you go to NA?

37:19 I did. I went with him every night.

37:21 Drew Why?

37:22 Well, my parents are pretty out there, so we would all accept.

37:25 Drew Right. Your dad's an alcoholic too, right?

37:28 Yeah.

37:28 Drew Okay.

37:29 Adam What an amazing coincidence.

37:31 Drew Shocking.

37:32 Adam Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

37:34 Drew Laura, you don't go to NA or AA.

37:36 Not anymore, no.

37:37 Drew No. You should never have gone in the first place.

37:40 Okay.

37:40 Drew You're not an addict.

37:41 Caller Right.

37:42 Drew You go to Al-Anon.

37:43 Okay.

37:44 Drew But you better get your ass down there right away.

37:46 Caller Okay.

37:47 Drew Because if you don't, either your husband to be is going to die of alcoholism, which the only chance he has is if you get better, scare the hell out of him a little bit, he's got to catch up with you, and that might cause him to get some treatment. That or do a formal intervention and lay down the law and hold as the carrot marriage. Which a guy may actually backfire, I suppose.

38:12 Adam Yeah, that's them thing. Hey, let me ask you this. That's not a carrot, by the way, that marriage. It's like if you could tie string around crap and hang it in front of the horse, that would be the equivalent to marriage. Maybe if this guy sobers up, Laura's not interested anymore.

38:30 Drew Of course not. That's why she's got to go to Al-Anon.

38:32 Well, we have a daughter together, too.

38:34 Drew Go to Al-Anon. You've got to go.

38:36 Adam That's a crime. You understand? A kid should be taken away.

38:39 No, I'm a good mom.

38:40 Adam Please.

38:41 Drew No, Laura.

38:42 Adam You're not a good mom.

38:43 I am. I have a wonderful mom. I like it.

38:45 Drew No, you're not.

38:46 Adam You may be...

38:47 Drew I think you are, and you may be committed, but your actual, real, genuine, intimate availability has got to be impaired.

38:56 Okay.

38:56 Drew Just the way you're behaving with the husband and the co-dependency is so severe.

38:59 Caller Do you want to bet on me?

39:02 Adam I know your parents are alcoholics, or at least your dad's an alcoholic, and I don't know what he did to you, but...

39:08 Actually, he did nothing.

39:09 That was the problem.

39:10 Adam He did nothing.

39:11 Drew Well, you got to go to Al-Anon.

39:12 All right.

39:12 Adam But your dad's an alcoholic. Now, lo and behold, you find an alcoholic. Now you got another kid, and you're going to screw that kid up.

39:19 Drew You're enmeshed with your husband as though he and you were one, and this disease of alcoholism is something you share with him. That's his disease.

39:29 Yeah.

39:29 Drew Yours is co-dependency. You go take care of that, okay?

39:32 Okay.

39:33 Adam All right. And please don't have any more kids. Can you do that? I'll give you a hundred bucks for every year you make it without having another kid. I'll get your address. And so it's going to be cheaper for me that way. I'm in that kind of tax bracket now, Drew. I sat down with my count, and I realized we could actually take on 250 kids at a hundred bucks a month, and it would actually be a savings to me. All right. Dido, do you have to leave?

39:58 Caller Oh, if you want me to.

39:59 Adam No, we don't want you to.

40:01 Caller But you're trying to get rid of me.

40:03 Adam No, I heard you do. All right. Just stay another break, at least. We'll talk about it.

40:07 Drew She got her money back.

40:08 Adam Yeah.

40:09 Drew All right.

40:09 Adam You're all right, right?

40:10 Drew Yeah, I'm fine.

40:11 Adam This is a good time for you, right? You attracted to me, Drew?

40:13 Caller Not quite.

40:14 Adam We're starting to warm up.

40:15 Caller Yeah.

40:16 Adam Starting to get in there. OK, good. Because I'm starting to get something for Drew now. We'll take a little break. We'll be back. It's the Loveline. We have to take a quick ten second timeout. We'll be back with more of the show in just ten seconds. This is Loveline on Radio Station. That's nerve-racking.

41:09 Drew Apparently.

41:12 Adam Hey, it's Loveline there. I'm Adam. That's Drew Dido is our guest tonight. She's a beautiful young British lass who has a voice like an angel and a face like a supermodel. Yeah, that was good, right?

41:27 Caller Yeah.

41:27 Adam Glad you stuck around for that.

41:29 Caller Yeah, thank you.

41:30 Dido All right.

41:31 Adam You want to say anything about me or Drew?

41:33 Drew It didn't work out.

41:34 Caller No cry, yeah.

41:35 Adam All right. Okay. Brian? Yes. You know, we're real big here in the States. I know you've spent a lot of time in Britain.

41:44 Drew Go ahead, Brian.

41:44 Adam First considered a big celebrity here. Brian?

41:48 Yes.

41:48 Adam You're 20.

41:49 Caller Yes.

41:50 Adam Yeah, what's going on?

41:51 Caller Well, I've been seeing this one. One guy is my boyfriend because I'm gay. And there's the love that's going on over our relationship. And I've been cheating on him for like three months.

42:02 Drew How old are you?

42:03 Caller I'm 20 years old.

42:04 Adam What year were you born? What month?

42:08 Caller August.

42:11 Adam And you have a boyfriend. How old is he?

42:14 Caller He's 20.

42:17 Adam And is your behind man still intact?

42:22 Caller What do you mean?

42:23 Adam I mean your behind man. You know what I'm talking about?

42:28 No.

42:29 Adam You're like a woman has a hymen. You know, a gay man has a be hymen.

42:35 Okay.

42:35 Adam You know what I'm saying?

42:36 No.

42:37 Adam Let's see.

42:38 Drew All right, well, let's get to his question.

42:38 Adam Is there a chalkboard in the room?

42:41 Dido No.

42:42 Adam Trying to figure out how to illustrate this. You have anal sex?

42:47 Yes.

42:47 Adam Oh, you do?

42:48 Yes.

42:49 Adam Finally. I talk to gay men all night at bars, and then I come in in the show, and I talk to more gay men, and none of them are getting in the ass anymore. It's not in vogue. It's like everyone's blowing everybody.

43:04 Caller To me, that's the best part.

43:05 Adam Getting in the ass? That's right. Thank you, Drew. Quiet down. Yeah, you're old school. Old school.

43:13 Caller You what?

43:13 Adam Yeah, okay. So, when you're with your boyfriend, who does who?

43:19 Caller Well, mainly I do him.

43:20 Adam Right, because you're like the husband, right?

43:23 Caller Yeah.

43:24 Adam Yeah, isn't... Tell me if I'm wrong about this, but even in gay relationships, there's a woman.

43:29 Caller Yeah, there's a man and a woman.

43:31 Adam Right.

43:31 Caller The woman's the one who gets the time.

43:33 Drew All right.

43:35 Adam Brian, with the F word, please.

43:37 Caller Sorry, he gets F'd all the time.

43:38 Adam Right, there you go. Okay, so you're the man.

43:42 Caller Yes.

43:42 Adam And now the love has left the relationship.

43:46 Caller Yes.

43:46 Adam And you're screwing around on him.

43:48 Caller Yes.

43:49 Adam And so what? Break up.

43:53 Caller Okay.

43:54 Adam All right.

43:55 Caller I just didn't know how to tell him because he's just been so sweet to me. I just don't know how to tell him that the love has left.

44:01 Drew Well, it's always a hard thing to tell a partner, but if you're not in it, the last thing they want is your pity. Just tell them what's happening.

44:08 Adam Yeah, it's got to be tough.

44:09 Drew I suspect you have trouble with intimacy anyway, right? Yeah, you're not going to hang out very long in a real relationship.

44:14 Adam Okay.

44:15 Drew That's just you.

44:16 Adam Yeah. It's rough for him to his biological clock is ticking. It's getting moody. You're going to have to break up.

44:24 Caller Okay.

44:24 Adam All right. Are you all right? Anyone do anything weird to you?

44:29 Caller I was messed with when I was like 16.

44:31 Adam What an amazing surprise.

44:34 Drew I bet something happened before that too.

44:37 Caller Not really.

44:38 Drew What do you mean not really?

44:40 Caller Nothing really happened to me before that until I started working at one place and there's two guys there that held me down and literally raped me.

44:49 Drew How old were you then?

44:50 Caller The what?

44:50 Drew How old were you when that happened?

44:52 Caller Around 16, 17.

44:55 Adam Something had to happen before that.

44:58 Caller Nope, nothing happened. Nothing really happened before that.

45:01 Drew Well, what do you mean nothing really? What is the nothing really you're thinking of?

45:04 Caller I just said nothing happened before that because people joked with me about it but they never did anything.

45:10 Drew You never had experimentation with your peers, anything weird like that? No.

45:14 Caller They would just BS with me about it and everything.

45:16 Adam So you worked at a place where two guys held you down and raped you?

45:23 Caller They waited till I got like I was leaving the work that one day because I knew they were gay. I was leaving work one day and then they grabbed me. He took me into his truck and his boyfriend held me down while they both raped me.

45:35 Adam What kind of place was this?

45:37 Caller Don't ask me.

45:40 Adam Where did you work?

45:41 Caller At a factory.

45:43 Adam What did you manufacture?

45:46 Caller Ice cream.

45:47 Adam Well, that doesn't seem like the right attitude for ice cream.

45:51 Caller You're telling me. That's what I thought.

45:53 Adam Son, this is going to be a rocky road.

45:56 Caller Actually, more of my preference is more vanilla.

45:58 Adam Yeah. Oh, man. I can't believe that guys who worked around ice cream would rape.

46:05 Caller Suddenly, I'm not hungry anymore.

46:06 Adam Yeah. Yeah. All right. Brian, that's horrible. Did you report them to the police?

46:12 Caller No, I reported them to the supervisor and he didn't do anything.

46:15 Drew Oh, my God.

46:18 Adam You went to the supervisor and said these two guys held me down and sodomized me in the truck in the parking lot of this ice cream factory.

46:26 Drew Get back to the line.

46:27 Adam And he said, get back to the waffle cones.

46:31 Caller He didn't. He said, I'll talk to him and he never really talked to him.

46:35 Adam Oh, man, please. OK, Brian, that's horrible. That's horrible. Did you get any counseling?

46:47 Caller Not really.

46:48 Adam OK. And you went back to work?

46:51 Caller No, I got fired because the way that the way they were, my mother, when people make me stressed out like they did, they got me all stressed out. I got real sick. And then I wasn't there enough, so they fired me.

47:03 Drew What did you say about your mother?

47:06 Caller The way my mom described is, I get like her when I get stressed out. So they stressed me out doing all that stuff to me to stress.

47:12 Drew Does your mother have mental illness?

47:14 Caller Yes.

47:15 Drew Yeah.

47:15 Adam OK.

47:16 Drew All right. What was that like? That's what we're trying to, we talked about people screwing around with you. If your mom is...

47:21 Adam No, that's not what we're talking about.

47:22 Drew Yeah, but what do you hear? What's going on here?

47:26 Adam Yeah. All right. Listen, Brian?

47:28 Dido Yes.

47:29 Adam I was going to say, don't get anyone pregnant, but don't get any, don't get AIDS.

47:33 Dido OK. All right.

47:35 Adam All right. God bless you. Listen, I hope every screwed up person in the world goes gay and lesbian. I really do. Look at this, Brian. He's he's a mess, but he's out banging around with guys, more power to him. Who cares? Find a guy, screw him, dump him, screw some other guy. I mean, I always want to know what the truth is behind the stories our listeners tell us. I was raped out in the parking lot by two guys. One held me down. The other sodomized me. Anyway, I got fired later because I was, you know, called in sick. And that there's just there's there's a few holes in that story somewhere.

48:16 Drew Some little details missing here and there.

48:18 Adam But yeah, the boss said I talked to him.

48:20 Caller Yeah.

48:21 Drew Here's the deal, though. I understand you're being supportive such that these people do not create children.

48:28 Adam That's all I care about. That's all I care about.

48:30 Drew But there's also a lot of human suffering going on here that you're dismissing.

48:34 Adam Well, I can't do anything about that. I'm worried about my own suffering. Listen, dump your boyfriend, don't get hepatitis, enjoy. You know, that's my motto. Sherry?

48:46 Yes.

48:46 Adam I'm still working on being gay. I'm convinced it's a better life.

48:50 Oh, I see.

48:51 Adam You're 16. What's going on?

48:53 Caller Okay, I have this thing. Me and my boyfriend, we broke up a few months ago, like a month ago, and we still have sex after we break up, like every time.

49:04 Drew Why?

49:04 Caller Why? Because both of us were really attached to each other.

49:10 Drew No, wait a minute. No, no, no, no, no. Don't speak for him.

49:13 Caller No, I mean, we've talked about it.

49:15 Drew Yeah, still don't speak for him. Okay. He's got a maintenance program going here.

49:20 Caller What do you mean?

49:21 Drew You're attached to him. Well, he's taking full advantage of that.

49:25 Caller No.

49:25 Drew And he'll say whatever he has to say.

49:27 Caller I'm the one who starts it.

49:29 Adam Who starts the sex?

49:31 Caller Yeah, most of the time.

49:33 Adam But he finishes.

49:35 Caller Well, we both finish.

49:37 Adam Right. Why did you guys break up? Why would you dump a guy like this?

49:41 Caller Well, I didn't. It was sort of a mutual thing because both of us are having a really hard time. When we're together, we put all of our energy into our relationship, and we start our life to start to fall apart.

49:55 Drew That is a lot of verbiage for BS. What the hell goes on here, Sherry?

50:00 Caller What?

50:00 Adam That's me. I'm like you, Sherry. I'm in love with being in love.

50:05 Caller That's me.

50:06 Adam I'm such a romantic.

50:07 Drew That is so much BS, Sherry.

50:08 Adam Long nights masturbating. Let me translate.

50:12 Drew Let me translate. He starts cheating.

50:16 Caller No.

50:17 Adam Listen, you both too much. First off, what else you have to concentrate on at 16? It's the summer for Christ's sake.

50:24 Caller I start school in like two weeks. I've got like two years of school to make up because I totally pot-headed bailed out.

50:30 Adam Well, thank you for making my point. You haven't spent 10 minutes studying in the last five years.

50:35 Dido Yes, I have.

50:37 Drew Ten minutes.

50:39 Dido Yeah.

50:39 Adam Okay. Ten combined. Fifteen seconds at a time.

50:42 Drew No, she's still got the laugh. She's no longer smoke-out.

50:45 Adam I know, but it's great. It's like you guys can't be together because everything falls apart when you're together. Meanwhile, you're not doing anything.

50:52 Caller What do you mean I'm not doing anything?

50:53 Adam What have you done? You're failing out of school.

50:56 Caller Well, no, I'm not failing out of school anymore. I did like eighth or ninth grade. I totally messed up.

51:04 Adam Were you together with him?

51:05 Caller No, I didn't meet him until eight months ago.

51:07 Adam All right. Thank you for further making my point here, which is you were failing out of school before you even met him.

51:14 Caller Right. And then when we got together, I got back on track. And then we got engaged. And both of us focused on each other instead of ourselves. But that's not even the question.

51:25 Adam Focused on each other. How would you do watch Maury Povich all day and take notes? This is it. You got engaged.

51:33 Caller Yeah.

51:33 Adam How old is he?

51:34 Caller 18.

51:35 Adam Oh boy. Where's your dad?

51:38 Caller Right now he's on his way to Sacramento. He's a truck driver. He's been here all my life.

51:43 Dido Yeah.

51:44 Caller My mom is still here. Who drove?

51:46 Dido Yeah.

51:47 Caller I have two older sisters and my dad is an alcoholic and he used to be a senator a little.

51:54 Adam He abused you?

51:55 Caller Yeah.

51:56 Adam Yeah.

51:56 Dido Okay.

51:57 Caller But it stopped now. He's gotten a little better, but he still drinks. I drank.

52:01 Adam Thank God. It's only when he's driving the truck. Yeah. Okay.

52:07 Dido All right.

52:08 Caller But like, no, my question is when we have sex.

52:13 Adam Drew's disgusted with all of you tonight.

52:16 Caller He's disgusted with me?

52:17 Adam Yeah.

52:18 Caller Why?

52:18 Adam Well, it's just we, we, you know, it's, here's what it is.

52:22 Caller I'm not in a relationship.

52:23 Adam All right, but no, no, no, but listen, Sherry. You know, we sit here night after night and Drew does it for the money. I do it because I love the kids. But we sit here night after night and we talk to screwed up teen after screwed up teen who's basically after screwed up teen who sits here and basically tries to explain their deviant behavior to us. And they weave in dad's an alcoholic and was a little bit abusive. And now they get back to the part where they're 16 and they're engaged and they got held back and great. And they're in love with the notion of being in love. And maybe that's me. But the point is, is all we can think about is abusive dad, who the abusive dad, who's the alcoholic. And we know that's the root of all the evil here. And you believe everything. You probably believe half the stuff you're saying. I'm not calling you a liar. It's just we know it's wrong.

53:09 Caller Right. I mean, you guys do see this every day. And you know the results and the consequence of everything that's going on. Because one, you're older. Two, you had way more experience. And three, you talk to people like me, who are seriously screwed up every single day of their life.

53:23 Adam So what do you want to do with this guy?

53:26 Caller Right now, we are getting our lives together. And then we're going to be back together.

53:31 Adam Okay.

53:32 Caller But I have a pain. It like it burns. When he goes inside me, it just, I mean, last time I ended up screaming and I mean, he's got scratches down his back that are going to scar because it hurts so bad.

53:45 Adam When you say, when you say he goes inside of you. Yes. You mean when he ejaculates?

53:53 Caller Yes.

53:54 Adam Yeah. Are you on the pill?

53:56 Caller No, depo. Depo Perva.

53:58 Adam Wow.

53:58 Caller And I have to say, Drew, I did one time I used the morning after pill and I have to say I never would have known about it if you didn't talk about it.

54:04 Drew Oh, good.

54:05 Caller That is so good.

54:06 Drew Jerry, God bless you. Your esteem, my esteem of you, I hold you in high esteem now. Very high esteem.

54:12 Adam Actually, you went from the basement to the first floor. You're not exactly.

54:16 Drew I'm back to talking to her again anyway.

54:18 Adam All right. I'm speaking terms again.

54:19 Drew I'm speaking with her.

54:21 Adam So why is she burning, Drew?

54:23 Drew I need to know if she's seen a doctor about it.

54:26 Adam All right. This is it, though.

54:27 Drew Sherry, have you had a pelvic exam?

54:30 Caller You know, I did. It's like the three months ago when I first got the depot shot, and they said everything was okay, and I was clear.

54:35 Drew And were you having the burning then?

54:38 Caller A little bit.

54:39 Drew Well, something's going on now. You got to get checked out again. There's sort of endless possibilities here. It could be a vaginitis, could be a yeast infection, could be something like a cervical infection, could be, I mean, it could be just lots and lots and lots of the list of possibilities is as long as my arm.

54:54 Adam Yeah. Let me tell you about the vagina. It's like that big maze from the shining. You ever see the shining? Drew never saw the shining. Dido? See the shining? Yeah. Remember when they were running through that maze? There was all those hedges and it was snowing. You don't know where to go. You don't know where to turn. Everything looks the same. You don't know. Is that how you say it? That's how I see it. Just a huge maze. And I can't find my way out sometimes. Usually more difficult to find my way in.

55:23 Drew I think I have those sorts of poetic descriptions all the way right now.

55:29 Adam Who are you trying to do? Seriously. Come on. One of us has got to serve.

55:33 Caller I think Drew is winning. He's got better advice.

55:36 Adam I have better advice?

55:37 Caller Yeah. I trust him more.

55:39 Adam Yeah.

55:39 Caller I want to tell him my problems.

55:41 Adam Yeah. She seems kind of a brother, whereas me, she's like a handsome stranger. Is that what you're talking about?

55:48 Caller That's exactly what I was trying to say.

55:51 Yeah.

55:51 Adam I know what you're saying. Jonathan.

55:53 Yeah.

55:54 Adam You're 18.

55:55 Caller Actually, I'm about two weeks shy of 18.

55:58 Adam Okay. Well, that's totally different then. Yeah.

56:00 Caller Okay. But yeah, basically 18.

56:02 Adam Okay. Thanks.

56:04 Caller So, my question basically is like, as a teenager being my age, being in relationships with an age difference is a very...

56:19 Drew Big, big deal.

56:21 Caller Yeah.

56:22 Drew It's a big deal.

56:22 Caller Yeah. You know, a 25 and a 35 year old together is one thing, but a 20 and a 10 year old together is no good.

56:29 Drew Absolutely.

56:32 Caller Well, should, at my, at where I'm at with my age and all, should the age difference thing, should it, shouldn't...

56:41 Drew You shouldn't date anybody under 16.

56:44 Caller Okay. Well, cause, see, cause I met this girl a few days ago and when I first met her, I thought she was, she looks like she's 16. And so I mean, she looks really good and all. So I wonder when I started talking to her, I just started working at the same place and she works there. And so I wonder when I started talking to her and...

57:07 Adam Turns out she's nine.

57:08 Caller Well, no, actually it wound up coming out that she's 14.

57:12 Adam 14.

57:13 Caller Yeah.

57:13 Adam Okay. And you're eight, you'll be 18 in two weeks.

57:16 Caller Yeah.

57:17 Adam Yeah. And so what do you want to do?

57:19 Caller Well, I mean, because I mean, she is, she's very mature.

57:24 Adam Dido, you ever date any older guys when you were younger?

57:27 Caller I did. And it wasn't a good idea.

57:28 Adam It wasn't?

57:29 Caller No.

57:29 Adam How old were you?

57:30 Caller I was about 14 or 15.

57:33 Adam Then how old was the guy?

57:34 Caller About 21. And I just now realized he was probably a bit of a freak. It's not a good idea. Yeah. It's just not cool.

57:40 Adam You're just flattered at the time.

57:42 Caller Exactly. You think it's cool, but then you look back when you're 18 and you think, God, that guy was weird.

57:47 Adam You think about what a 21-year-old guy or where-

57:50 Caller He's getting out of a 14-year-old.

57:52 Adam Where is he at emotionally where he's dating a 14-year-old? But 18 and 14 is too much, Jonathan.

58:00 Caller You think so?

58:01 Adam Well, I don't know. I may make an exception for Jonathan because Jonathan sounds like he's 15.

58:06 Drew No. And it is like a ninth grader, a twelfth grader, so a freshman, a senior.

58:09 Caller No. I just graduated. If I'm 15, then I'm a super genius.

58:13 Drew Okay. Jonathan, don't do this.

58:16 Adam Too young.

58:17 Drew Don't do it, all right?

58:18 Caller Okay.

58:18 Adam Okay. Fine.

58:20 Drew Good.

58:20 Adam All right.

58:22 Drew Adam's a genius. Listen to him.

58:23 Adam Barbara.

58:24 Yes.

58:24 Adam There you go.

58:25 Adam.

58:25 Adam Yeah.

58:26 I have a comment for you.

58:27 Adam Yeah.

58:27 You said that you were gonna have the surgery on your hand.

58:31 Adam Hand surgery coming up this Friday, yeah.

58:33 Right. And your doctor was talking about putting the block on your arm where they put the tourniquet on.

58:39 Adam Yeah.

58:40 Don't do it.

58:41 Adam Don't do the tourniquet.

58:42 Drew Well, they have to do it.

58:43 No, no. No, they don't. Just do the general.

58:48 Drew Barbara, they have to do it. They have to do it. That's how you control the bleeding and the extremity during these orthopedic procedures.

58:54 I had carpal tunnel surgery and I had... They might have to put the tourniquet on a little bit. But the one where they just put it on really, really, really tight is the most absolute painful thing you'll ever go through.

59:10 Drew That's why they have to try to put you out, because it can't be awful.

59:13 Well, I'm talking about afterwards. My first risk that I had done with just a general anesthesia, I woke up, no pain, nothing. I had maybe one pain pill, that was it. The next one, when I woke up... Well, if you imagine your leg going to sleep on you, and you know how it kind of hurts when it's coming out of the numbing?

59:39 Adam Yeah.

59:39 Intensify that by about 10 or 20 times.

59:42 Adam Well, hold on a second. Okay.

59:44 And prolong it for 16 hours.

59:47 Drew Well, they crushed the nerve or something. They did something a little...

59:51 I don't know what they did, but I was popping two Percocet every two hours.

59:54 Adam Yeah.

59:55 It was...

59:56 Adam That was nine years ago, by the way.

59:58 It was hard.

59:58 Adam Still on the Percocet. Of course.

1:00:00 No, I'm not.

1:00:01 Adam Barbara.

1:00:02 Caller It was bad.

1:00:03 Adam What the hell are you doing for a living that you need two carpal tunnel syndrome operations?

1:00:09 I'm a medical technologist.

1:00:11 Adam And so that means...

1:00:13 I work in a laboratory.

1:00:15 Adam And what are you doing? What are you doing with your hands? It's so repetitive.

1:00:19 Pipetting. I do mostly test for sexually transmitted diseases.

1:00:25 Adam What's that called, Drew?

1:00:27 Drew Take a pipette.

1:00:28 Adam Pipetting?

1:00:28 Drew Pipettes.

1:00:29 Yeah.

1:00:29 It's an aliquot.

1:00:30 Adam It's a euphemism for masturbation. Pettin a pipe again.

1:00:34 Drew Drawing up aliquots and squirting them into something else.

1:00:36 Adam Dropping up, sucking up the aliquots and dropping them in.

1:00:39 Right.

1:00:40 I do a lot of EIA testing for sexually transmitted diseases. I also do some allergy testing.

1:00:46 Adam All right. You can't use your mouth like everyone else?

1:00:49 It's not allowed anymore.

1:00:50 Adam You had both? You had carpal tunnel syndrome on both hands?

1:00:54 Yes, I did.

1:00:56 Adam All right. So you had the operation? All right. So when I go in there Friday, I should say Barbara, one of our stone listeners, suggests, I know you have 35 years experience, doctor, and don't take this the wrong way. But I'm not going with the tourniquet. I'm playing a hunch on this one.

1:01:11 Yeah.

1:01:11 Adam Barbara tipped me off. And I know it's going to be excessive bleeding.

1:01:15 It's the anesthesiologist that is the one that chooses to do it.

1:01:19 Drew Then he wants to argue with you about how to hang a door.

1:01:22 Adam Yeah, right. Pardon? Barbara, here's what I'm doing. I'm not going to try to... I'm not going to piss the guy off before he takes out the scalpel. I'm going with whatever he wants to go with. Okay. All right. I appreciate your...

1:01:35 Drew No, it's your body, man. You know more.

1:01:36 Adam I appreciate your input. But he says he's got to stop the bleeding to the extremities so he can see what he's doing. Plus, he said he was going to be eating in there and he didn't want the blood to get all over the place. Because he only scheduled it during his lunch break, he said. Hi, Barbara.

1:01:54 I want to hear after you have it.

1:01:55 Adam Listen, I'll have my next of kin come in Sunday night and explain what went wrong.

1:02:01 Drew You're not coming in Sunday?

1:02:02 No, I'll be in. He's the one that does it, the anesthesiologist.

1:02:06 Adam Okay.

1:02:06 And ask him about the different ways that you do it. And the one where they just make you a little groggy and put just the tourniquet on is not the way to go.

1:02:17 Adam Not the good one.

1:02:17 I'm just trying to warn you. But yeah, there's, I mean, I'm sure they have to do some sort of a tourniquet. Right. And they put you out.

1:02:24 Adam Okay.

1:02:24 Drew Thank you, Barbara.

1:02:25 Adam Thank you.

1:02:26 Drew Adam, Adam, a little light with the finger tonight for you.

1:02:29 Adam Yeah.

1:02:29 Drew I don't know.

1:02:30 Adam She was talking about my surgery. I wanted to know what was going on. How do you get that carpal tunnel syndrome so young like that, Drew?

1:02:37 Drew Theoretically repetitive. I thought you get it is having babies. You carry a kid around. I got it so bad when I was carrying, we had triplets of carrying these kids. Are you carrying something heavy when you're holding your wrist like this? It really is irritating.

1:02:49 Adam That's where you get that?

1:02:50 Drew That's where I got it.

1:02:50 Adam I don't have that.

1:02:51 Drew But it's repetitive motions.

1:02:52 Adam That is. Okay.

1:02:54 Drew All right. Thyroid problem. Parathyroid problem.

1:02:57 Adam All right, Drew, you're really dragging the show down. Dido is going to go home and go to bed, right?

1:03:03 Caller Certainly, yeah.

1:03:04 Adam All right. Where the hell can we find her? Again, at the troubadour tomorrow night, but you can't go because it's sold out, right?

1:03:10 Caller Yeah.

1:03:11 Adam But that sounds cool, you know, announce the sold out show. And you can catch her on Letterman, the 16th, and then all those different towns, Minneapolis, Chicago, Detroit, Cincinnati, Atlanta, Washington, DC., New York, and Boston, all coming up the next couple, basically the next couple of weeks. Thanks for coming in.

1:03:29 Caller Thank you for having me.

1:03:30 Adam We appreciate it. You were delightful.

1:03:32 Caller My pleasure.

1:03:33 Adam All right, No Angels, the name of the CD. We'll take a little break and we'll be back. We'll be Dido-less, but that's fine. We'll carry on after this.

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1:04:12 Caller I feel so liquidy.

1:04:13 Caller Really? You're listening to Loveline with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

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1:04:30 Caller It's Loveline, W-E-B-N.

1:04:41 Adam It is the Loveline. Dido has left the building. That leaves just me, Drew, and you. Phone number, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. And we'll go back to the phones. Jessica.

1:04:53 Caller Yeah?

1:04:53 Adam You're 15?

1:04:55 Caller Yeah, I sure am.

1:04:55 Adam What's going on?

1:04:57 Caller Well, first I gotta say hi to Jack and tell him thanks for listening to me last night for all my problems. My question is, is I've been raped about four times, and I really want to know what I can do to help myself to not have that happen, because I'm always finding myself in situations where that might happen.

1:05:16 Adam Like what kind of situations?

1:05:18 Drew Describe one.

1:05:19 Caller I mean, well, because two of them, I feel were kind of my fault, because my first time I got raped was when I was 13, and that was because I got drunk and he raped me. But-

1:05:31 Drew How is that your fault?

1:05:32 Caller Because I let myself get drunk, you know.

1:05:35 Drew I let myself get drunk.

1:05:37 Adam I was drunk last night. I didn't get raped. I mean, you know, it's not like you're always asking to be raped just because you're drunk.

1:05:45 Caller Well, I know, but it's just, I don't know. It might not be my fault, but-

1:05:49 Adam Oh, no. That's never your fault. I mean, you play a role in it.

1:05:56 Caller Yeah.

1:05:56 Adam I mean, I don't know who this guy was. How old was he?

1:05:59 Caller He was, I think maybe 16.

1:06:03 Adam 16. Okay.

1:06:05 Caller But then the second time I got raped, I know it wasn't my fault because I was, it was last 4th of July at the beach, and I was walking down the beach and four guys pulled me into their car and took me off and gang raped me with a knife to my throat. Yeah. They were taking me back to their friends at their campsite. The only way I got away from that situation, which could have gotten a lot worse, was I just told one of the guys off and he pushed me out of the moving car, which probably saved my life because I don't think I would have made it through that one. But the other one I just don't want to talk about because that's a really bad one.

1:06:39 Adam It's worse than the gang rape with the knife?

1:06:41 Caller It's not worse than that, but still, that's just one I don't talk about.

1:06:45 Drew Why?

1:06:46 Caller Because I've pretty much dealt with it myself. That's how my parents tried to get me into counseling for them.

1:06:52 Drew By the way, things that you've dealt with yourself, that you've dealt with satisfactorily, are things you can talk about rather easily because you've dealt with it.

1:07:01 Adam That's a good point, Drew.

1:07:04 Drew Things that are so overwhelming that you can no longer mention it are powerfully affecting you.

1:07:13 Adam How could it be worse than four guys gang raping you at Knife Point? Hold on. You never hear at Knife Point. You always hear at Gun Point, but a knife has a point on it, you know?

1:07:24 Caller Yeah, it has a very sharp point on it.

1:07:25 Adam Someone ought to talk more about knife points. Guns blunt, you know? Let's say at gun end and at Knife Point. All right, write that down, Drew.

1:07:34 Caller I got it.

1:07:36 Adam All right, so it's worse than the four guys at the end of the knife.

1:07:41 Caller Yeah, yes, in ways it is.

1:07:43 Adam Because it involves a family or something?

1:07:45 Caller No, I've had a perfect, and like, you know, a lot of your listeners, I've had a perfect family life. No, seriously, it's almost close to perfect.

1:07:53 Adam No, no.

1:07:55 Caller My parents are still together, never abusive, never had alcoholism, never none of that stuff, never been raped by any of them, my brothers, my neighbors, or nothing like that.

1:08:04 Drew How many kids in the family?

1:08:06 Caller Just me and my little brother.

1:08:09 How could that be?

1:08:10 Caller We're active as a family, you know, we do things together. It's just a good family all around. So, you know, I've had a really messed up teenagehood just with myself getting myself in trouble with, you know, jail and drugs and just stupid stuff like that.

1:08:27 Drew What about drugs?

1:08:28 Caller Well, I mean, I've never done anything more serious than weed and alcohol. I mean, with the weed I've cut, I don't need that anymore because it's just stupid.

1:08:37 Drew Were you doing it every day?

1:08:39 Caller Not every day. I was doing it a lot, though. The alcohol was what I was doing every day.

1:08:43 Adam What was the third time you were raped?

1:08:45 Caller The third time I was raped? I really don't want to talk about it, especially on...

1:08:51 Drew Were your grandparents alcoholics?

1:08:53 Caller No. The only people in my family that were alcoholics was my aunt and uncle.

1:08:57 Adam So two of the rapes you've talked about and then two you don't want to talk about.

1:09:01 Caller Well, the third one was a 20-year-old guy in the army. And at first I wanted to, but then I changed my mind and he wouldn't.

1:09:14 Adam Okay, so how do you stop being raped?

1:09:18 Caller How do I stop being raped?

1:09:19 Adam Yeah, that's your question.

1:09:20 Caller I mean, yeah, I think because my perception on it, I don't know if it's right or not wrong. That's why I wanted to ask. I think it might be because of the fact that I'm real attaching to people. Like, I like feeling secure, like I have someone there that I can, you know, confide in and trust, but and every time I've tried doing that, you know, it's pretty much felt like I've gotten taken advantage of.

1:09:43 Drew Well, it's who you chose to be close with. Yeah, there's a reason you chose the people you chose.

1:09:48 Caller Yeah, I mean, I might only be 15, but I've seen a lot and it's just, you know, I don't want it anymore and I want to find a way where I can actually find someone.

1:09:59 Drew Okay, so in two years, you've seen all this ass?

1:10:02 Caller It's been, well, let's see, since 12 and a half.

1:10:06 Adam Okay, Jessica.

1:10:08 Caller Yes.

1:10:08 Adam Okay, here's your first rule. If you're attracted to the guy, don't go near him. Okay, I know.

1:10:15 Drew You got that?

1:10:15 Caller If someone don't go near him.

1:10:17 Adam It sounds comical, but if you like him, he's a rapist.

1:10:20 Drew He's gonna be abuser, yeah.

1:10:21 Adam Okay?

1:10:22 Caller Okay.

1:10:22 Drew That's your first rule of thumb.

1:10:23 Adam Number two, start looking through the scrapbooks emotionally and I know you think your family was perfect, but Drew and I know something was up. There's gotta be something here.

1:10:36 Caller Well, I can honestly tell you there's nothing.

1:10:39 Adam Well, then you have a brain tumor.

1:10:41 Caller A brain tumor?

1:10:42 Adam Yeah. You need a CAT scan because something's up with you and-

1:10:46 Caller Well, see, the thing I think is up with me is just the fact that I've had a lot of, you know, in the past year, especially my, one of my really, really close friends killed himself last year.

1:10:56 Adam Yeah. But it's nothing recent. It's got to be something.

1:10:59 Drew Well, let's go on the assumption that it has just been an incredible amount of trauma in the last three years.

1:11:03 Caller It has been an incredible amount of trauma.

1:11:05 Drew Get treatment.

1:11:07 Caller I've tried treatment, but it just doesn't make work. It just, you know-

1:11:10 Drew Treatment takes about four years. So how could that have been?

1:11:13 Adam Yeah.

1:11:14 Caller It just stresses me out.

1:11:15 Adam It just pisses me off.

1:11:16 Drew Well, you need to go through that though. It's not comfortable. It doesn't feel good. It's not supposed to feel good. You need to get help. You're going to fight it. Stay with it. Either that or you continue making the choices you made because those are the things that feel good to you.

1:11:31 Adam Yeah. So go out with the guys you're attracted to, ignore treatment, and I predict a long, full life that is just chock full of rape. That is my prediction.

1:11:42 Drew Rape and abuse.

1:11:44 Adam With like a sign of abuse. Like a heaping helping of rape with like abuse garner.

1:11:49 Drew Yeah.

1:11:50 Adam Okay. But you can get a little help and lay low for a little while and carve yourself out a good life. Oh my God. All right. I'm killing myself. That's it. I'm going to rape myself when I get home and then I'm killing myself. The most bizarre thing in the world. He killed himself.

1:12:08 Dido Yeah.

1:12:08 Adam And you know what's worse? What? He raped himself first. Oh my God.

1:12:12 Dido Shane. Yeah.

1:12:14 Adam It's 23.

1:12:15 Dido Hi.

1:12:15 Adam Hey.

1:12:15 Dido How you doing? Good. Well, I got kind of a typical problem. I hope I'm not wasting your time or anything.

1:12:22 Adam No, it's all right.

1:12:23 Dido I'm a I wouldn't call it, but it's kind of a reoccurring thing.

1:12:26 Adam Yeah. I can't.

1:12:27 Dido You know, I'm my girlfriend won't orgasm.

1:12:31 Adam That bitch. Yeah.

1:12:34 Dido It's terrible. I mean, what can I do? I mean, I've never been, you know, Superman or anything, but I've learned how to go a little bit longer, like, you know, a half hour, 45 minutes and still. Yeah.

1:12:44 Adam Yeah. Are you doing oral sex on her?

1:12:47 Dido No, that's kind of like, you know, forbidden land. Why?

1:12:50 Adam For her or for you?

1:12:52 Dido I guess for her. I mean, I wouldn't mind, but I mean, anything to help.

1:12:57 Adam But she doesn't want you to do that?

1:12:59 Dido No. Why not? Why don't you ask her? She's on the phone.

1:13:02 Adam Is she on the phone?

1:13:03 Dido Yeah.

1:13:03 Adam What's her name?

1:13:05 Dido Heather.

1:13:06 Adam Heather?

1:13:07 Caller Yes.

1:13:07 Adam Heather? Why is it forbidden land, the oral sex?

1:13:14 Caller Because I'm just not cool with that.

1:13:16 Adam Why not?

1:13:19 Caller I don't know. I just don't want to go there.

1:13:21 Adam Is there anything we need to know or are you just uncomfortable?

1:13:25 Caller Just uncomfortable.

1:13:26 Adam Yeah. Most 23-year-old women are all right with that.

1:13:31 Caller Not this one.

1:13:32 Adam No. Are you religious?

1:13:36 Caller To some degree, yeah.

1:13:38 Adam Do you think that has something to do with it?

1:13:40 Caller No.

1:13:40 Adam No.

1:13:41 Caller I'm just not comfortable with that. I enjoy giving pleasure, not getting it.

1:13:47 Adam Oh, really?

1:13:48 Caller Yes.

1:13:48 Adam You got a sister?

1:13:49 Caller Yes, I do have a sister.

1:13:51 Adam How old is she?

1:13:54 Caller She's 24.

1:13:55 Adam She's married. She's married?

1:13:57 Caller Yes, she is.

1:13:59 Adam Do you like to give oral sex?

1:14:01 Caller Yes, I do.

1:14:02 Adam Wow.

1:14:03 Caller I greatly enjoy it.

1:14:04 Adam You greatly enjoy it.

1:14:05 Dido I enjoy it, too.

1:14:07 Adam Yeah. Shane, I don't know what you're trying to... You may be asking for trouble here.

1:14:11 Dido No, I'm just wondering what we could do.

1:14:13 Adam Well, listen, I think... Here's the deal. Heather's uptight. And I don't know why Heather's uptight. Maybe it's religion, maybe it's something else. I don't know what went on with Heather and why she's uptight, but Heather's a little bit uptight. And if you're uptight as a woman, you don't have an orgasm. That's it. A lot of it's emotional, and if you can't free yourself up, it ain't going to happen. And plus, most 23-year-old women we talk to don't have an orgasm via intercourse anyway. And their only chance is through masturbation or oral sex or possibly the tub like Producer Anne. So, do you masturbate, Heather? You do? Yes, I do. How's that go?

1:14:57 Caller Wonderfully.

1:14:58 Adam You have the orgasm?

1:14:59 Caller Always.

1:15:00 Adam So, you're all right with the masturbation?

1:15:02 Caller Yes.

1:15:03 Adam Why don't you just loosen up and let him give you a little oral pleasure? I bet you'd enjoy it.

1:15:08 Caller I don't like to ask.

1:15:10 Adam Uh-oh. Hold on a second.

1:15:13 Drew That was a different statement there.

1:15:14 Adam Let me talk to Drew for a second.

1:15:16 Drew Sidebar.

1:15:17 Dido Okay.

1:15:19 Adam That's a little hostility, isn't it? I don't like to ask.

1:15:22 Caller Yeah.

1:15:23 Adam You know what I'm saying?

1:15:24 Drew Yeah.

1:15:24 Dido Oh, yeah.

1:15:26 Drew But also if he does it, it spoils it. I'm not interested in that.

1:15:29 Adam You know what's funny about Drew and my sidebars? The people we're talking to can hear us. But we always pretend like they can't. You can hear us, right, Shane?

1:15:39 Dido Yeah. I can hear you fine.

1:15:40 Adam Okay. So, Heather, you don't like to ask.

1:15:43 Caller No. I don't.

1:15:45 Adam Well, Shane, why don't you offer some oral sex? I have.

1:15:49 Dido I have. You know, she gets quiet and I could tell that she's uncomfortable about it. So, I just don't even, you know, I don't insist because if it makes her uncomfortable, I wouldn't think.

1:15:58 Drew Why don't I ask? Just go ahead and offer. I mean.

1:16:01 Dido Yeah.

1:16:01 Adam Why don't you just start up? You know what I mean? But Heather's all freaked out about it. But Heather, what do you mean that you don't like to ask? I see that my curiosity's peaked a little bit here. What if he just began performing oral sex on you? Would you be all right with that?

1:16:19 Caller I don't know. I've never had that. I've never gone there.

1:16:23 Adam Were you ever raped? Are you overweight? Or is there something, you have some sort of body image thing?

1:16:28 Yes.

1:16:29 Adam Which one?

1:16:32 Caller I used to be extremely overweight. I just lost a lot of weight and I'm still not very comfortable with myself.

1:16:39 Adam But do you walk around naked in front of Shane?

1:16:42 Caller No.

1:16:42 Adam No? You wear a potato sack?

1:16:46 Caller No.

1:16:46 Caller A barrel?

1:16:47 Adam You wear a barrel like the Denver Broncos mascot? No. Okay. So you were overweight. You have some sort of body image problems and you're a little bit freaked out.

1:16:58 Dido Exactly.

1:16:58 Adam Okay.

1:17:00 Dido I'm fine.

1:17:00 Adam Yeah. But Shane, you like Heather, right?

1:17:04 Dido Yeah.

1:17:04 Adam Yeah. You a black guy, Shane?

1:17:06 Dido No.

1:17:06 Adam Okay. They like the big texture. Okay. Here's what you need to do. And Heather?

1:17:12 Caller Yes.

1:17:12 Adam You need to just chill out a little bit.

1:17:15 Caller Okay.

1:17:15 Adam Have a glass of red wine and just mellow out a little bit, would you?

1:17:20 Caller Okay.

1:17:20 Adam And kind of get over it a little bit. And Shane?

1:17:24 Caller Yes.

1:17:24 Adam You just slide your way in there, perform a little oral sex and then you guys will be over it. Okay. Sounds good. Yeah. And listen, let me give you my quick philosophy here. By the way, no guy should be begging to give a woman oral sex, but that's what he wants to do.

1:17:41 Drew And so what's your philosophy?

1:17:42 Adam Here's my philosophy. And you know, everyone gives me a load of cramp about it, but there's nothing wrong with doing something you don't want to do sexually with your partner for 10 minutes, for Christ's sake. Everyone has this like, no, no, honey, if you're not comfortable, then he's not going to be comfortable and she's not. It's always with the woman, by the way. It's never with the guy. The guys suck it up. Guys are told to do stuff they don't want to do all the time when it comes to a relationship, all the time. Turn off the TV and listen, start talking, hold hands, cuddle. It's all right to tell guys what to do constantly, but the second you tell a woman what to do, oh my God, it's rape. Oh my God, you're abusing her. Oh my God, you're taking advantage of her. Listen, he wants to do something to her that's going to feel good for her. She should just get over it, lay there, look at the ceiling, count the little cottage cheese pock marks on the ceiling, on that acoustic ceiling with the gold flakes. In the meantime, we'll go to break. He can perform oral sex.

1:18:45 Drew Okay.

1:18:45 Adam Okay? You're with me on that, right?

1:18:48 Drew Yeah, yeah.

1:18:48 Adam Just relax. Just get over it. That's all right. He loves her. Okay. I'm going to show you what I mean about oral sex during the break. Okay, Drew? Seriously, just hold still. We'll be back. I love song.

1:19:18 Caller That keeps you up at night. It's Love Line, only on WEBN.

1:19:24 Drew It's written above basically everything guys need to know about gynecology. It's very funny, it's very interesting. In other words-

1:19:31 Adam What do you mean about gynecology?

1:19:33 Drew I mean about gynecology. You mean about that area? A guy's eye view of what women got going on there, and what do they need to know about it.

1:19:41 Adam That's interesting.

1:19:42 Drew It's interesting, he does it in a very humorous, interesting way.

1:19:44 Caller Never date a man who knows more about your vagina than you do.

1:19:48 Drew Who is that?

1:19:49 Dido I don't know who that is, sounds like Gene Garofalo.

1:19:51 Adam Is he an associate of yours?

1:19:56 Drew Kind of. He's going to be working on the web a little bit. At drdrew.com you can log on and we'll send you a newsletter. And Dr. Bruce Becker, a different Dr. Bruce, who's going to have an area for us there talking about exactly these issues.

1:20:11 Adam And when you say he's working on the web and he's a gynecologist, is the web a euphemism for vagina or is that some sort of computer thing?

1:20:17 Drew That's a computer thing. Okay. It means the web doesn't mean the vagina.

1:20:21 Adam The web's not a bad name for that part if you think about it. You know what I mean? You don't want to get caught up in that web. You know what I'm saying? Going down to the web. You know what I mean?

1:20:32 Caller Yeah.

1:20:32 Adam She's spinning a web. You know what I mean?

1:20:35 Caller Yeah.

1:20:35 Adam Yeah, I like that. Write that down.

1:20:37 Drew P-webbed.

1:20:40 Adam Steve?

1:20:41 Yeah.

1:20:41 Adam You're 16? What's going on?

1:20:45 Caller When my penis gets hard, I've been told that you're not supposed to be able to pee, but I can't.

1:20:51 Drew Makes it a lot harder, more difficult.

1:20:52 Adam You can?

1:20:53 Caller Yeah.

1:20:53 Adam All right. You have to immediately join the circus.

1:20:58 Drew You're fine. Don't worry. You're fine, Steve. Really?

1:21:00 Adam Yeah. Gather around, everyone. Steve, the amazing peeing boner boy. The oohs and the ahs from the delighted crowd and the immediate family. Yeah, you can pee with an erection. I do it almost every morning.

1:21:14 Drew That's why you started your sink habit, right?

1:21:16 Adam That's why. Yes. I pee in the sink in the morning because I don't want to get it all over the toilet. Know what I'm saying? All right. Okay. You're fine, Steve.

1:21:26 Drew The weird thing we've had is the guys that, like, urinate immediately after ejaculating. That's kind of weird.

1:21:32 Adam You mean while they're still in the woman?

1:21:36 Drew Yeah. We've had some guys say they could urinate, like, in and around the time of ejaculation, which is like, that doesn't make sense to me at all.

1:21:44 Adam Why? You're supposed to want to urinate after you ejaculate.

1:21:47 Drew Yeah, but you get it in a few minutes. I mean, there's a valve that shuts there, basically. A muscle shuts things off.

1:21:52 Adam Right. Well, those guys probably were drunk and had to urinate before, but wanted to get to sex and then. All right. Karen.

1:21:59 Caller Yes?

1:22:00 Adam You're 17.

1:22:01 Caller Yeah.

1:22:01 Adam What's your question?

1:22:03 Caller If a guy finger bangs a girl, does he have to pop her cherry?

1:22:07 Drew Nope. But boy, they're teaching them.

1:22:10 Adam Where did you go to finishing school, Heather? I mean, Karen?

1:22:15 Caller I did it.

1:22:16 Adam Finger bangs and cherry. Yeah. How's your cherry?

1:22:22 Caller My cherry is still intact.

1:22:24 Adam Oh, it is? Oh, good. You're a virgin?

1:22:27 Caller Yeah.

1:22:27 Adam That is great. You're playing on hanging on to that cherry?

1:22:31 Caller Yeah.

1:22:32 Adam All right. Yeah. Listen, if I have a daughter, I'm going to have her keep hers even after she's not a virgin. And just physically keep it.

1:22:40 Drew In a jar somewhere?

1:22:41 Adam No, just between the pages of a Bible.

1:22:44 Drew Yeah. Yeah.

1:22:45 Adam You know what I mean?

1:22:46 Drew As a reminder.

1:22:47 Adam That way, after she's been with several hundred guys and then she plans on getting married, the guy says, Do you still have your hymen?

1:22:52 Drew Yeah, it is.

1:22:55 Adam It's in Ezekiel Chapter 8 there. Just turn to that page. The pages are stuck together. There you go. All right, Karen. Yeah. So wait a minute. He's going to break the hymen?

1:23:08 Caller No, I'm wondering, like, if I have to pop the cherry to bang the girl.

1:23:13 Adam Do you have to do that, Drew?

1:23:14 Drew To bang the girl? No.

1:23:15 Adam How far up in there is that cherry?

1:23:18 Drew In the fingertip, you know, so, but it, you have to push pretty good to get to rupture.

1:23:25 Adam And can you go anywhere as long as that place, that's in place, that hymen?

1:23:31 Drew Can you go anywhere?

1:23:32 Adam Is there some sort of alternative route?

1:23:34 Drew No.

1:23:34 Adam You know, like when PCH gets closed down and they send you through the hills or something?

1:23:38 Drew The landslide, yeah.

1:23:38 Adam There's a landslide once a year, so you gotta take the, I don't know, the grapevine?

1:23:42 Drew No.

1:23:42 Adam There's no grapevine? No. That's it?

1:23:44 Drew That's it.

1:23:45 Adam It's just, that's it?

1:23:47 Drew You're s out of luck.

1:23:47 Adam You can't get in there?

1:23:49 Drew Well, there's holes in it oftentimes.

1:23:53 Adam Oh, really?

1:23:54 Drew Yeah.

1:23:54 Adam So if you search around, like a Mexican trying to get into California, you can find yourself a little opening and make a break for it. Interesting. Really? There's holes in the hymen?

1:24:06 Drew Can't be, huh?

1:24:07 Adam I thought it was either broken or it wasn't.

1:24:09 Drew No, I believe they can be some openings.

1:24:11 Adam Let me look into that hymen stuff. All right, Karen? Yeah. Okay. Well, lay low on the finger banging.

1:24:20 Caller Okay.

1:24:21 Adam All right?

1:24:21 Caller I've never done it, so that's why I'm asking.

1:24:23 Adam Okay, good. That's 17. Most 17-year-old callers have written a book called Finger Banging, Friend or Foe, by the time it's their 16th birthday. It's kind of refreshing to have someone who hasn't engaged in that at the ripe old age of 17. Brandon?

1:24:41 Dido Yeah.

1:24:42 Adam You're 16.

1:24:43 Dido Yeah. I let guys give me oral sex that are older than me.

1:24:48 Adam Perfectly natural, perfectly healthy.

1:24:51 Caller I mean, I'm not gay at all.

1:24:52 Adam No.

1:24:53 Drew Why do you do that if you're not gay?

1:24:55 Dido Because I don't really know any girls that would do it.

1:24:58 Adam Interesting. And how old are the guys?

1:25:04 Dido Like 22.

1:25:06 Drew Brandon, that's like a total detach. I mean, just as long as somebody stimulates you, you're okay. You don't care who it is. But can an animal do it?

1:25:14 Caller I don't know.

1:25:15 Dido Really?

1:25:15 Adam Why not?

1:25:17 Dido I mean, if I knew a girl that would do it, I would let her, you know.

1:25:20 Drew I mean, a guy, an animal, what the hell does that mean?

1:25:22 Adam Like screw a melon or something.

1:25:25 Dido I was just wondering if it's going to change the way I feel.

1:25:28 Caller I mean, I'm not gay at all.

1:25:29 Dido I was just wondering if it...

1:25:32 Adam Listen, I don't want to burst your heterosexual bubble, but you are a little bit gay.

1:25:37 Drew It's not at all.

1:25:38 Adam You can't get blown quite a bit by older gents. You're gauging a little bit gay.

1:25:42 Drew Gay sex. This is what gay sex is.

1:25:45 Adam That's part of what makes you gay. That and recycling and driving a Miata. I swear, you start recycling and driving a Miata and wearing a Dickie and that's it. Because you've already got the engaging and sex part down. How do you meet these guys?

1:26:03 Dido On the Internet.

1:26:05 Adam Okay. Well, listen, Brandon, maybe you're not gay, but I think you're gay. That's all right.

1:26:12 Drew But this is something more than that.

1:26:14 Adam This is a screwy.

1:26:16 Drew Yeah. This is a total disconnect. That's why I said animals, whatever. You know, I can't find a girl, so I'll use, oh, a male. They seem to be willing. Let's use one of those.

1:26:25 Adam Right.

1:26:26 Drew That's very bizarre.

1:26:27 Adam It's like you're in prison or something. All right. Brandon.

1:26:32 Dido Yeah.

1:26:33 Adam Luckily for you, we don't have enough time left in the show to really get into it. But this ain't right. And I think you should stop it.

1:26:40 Drew Unless you're gay. And even then.

1:26:42 Adam Even if you're gay, it's not right.

1:26:43 Drew You with these older men.

1:26:45 Caller I mean, that's only like three times.

1:26:47 Drew Yeah.

1:26:48 Adam It's still significant.

1:26:49 Drew It's abuse. These are criminal males engaging in sex with underage males.

1:26:55 Adam Yeah.

1:26:55 Drew It's not right.

1:26:56 Adam Okay. Brandon. It's a bigger issue than you think. Look into it. And stop doing it, please. Okay. All right?

1:27:05 Caller Okay.

1:27:06 Adam Okay. Have you ever been with a guy with a mustache? No. Okay. Good. Why? Because then it's really hard for the imagination to, I think, as a woman when a guy's like sporting a goatee, unless you're not talking about oral sex. We'll take a little break and then we'll be right back.

1:27:27 Caller The phone number for Loveline is 1-800-LOVE-191.

1:27:31 Caller Loveline, I'll be right back.

1:27:58 Adam Well, there you go. Another successful show. In the bank. What do you think, Drew?

1:28:03 Drew I think it was successful.

1:28:04 Adam I give it like a...

1:28:05 Drew Three.

1:28:06 Adam A three?

1:28:07 Drew Oh, I'm sorry, seven.

1:28:08 Adam Yeah, there you go.

1:28:09 Drew Eleven.

1:28:11 Dido Yes, yes.

1:28:13 Adam All right, we'll get out of here. We'll have the Dr. Bruce Becker, the gynecologist who wrote the book, and we'll get to the bottom of all this stuff tomorrow night. So, until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:28:28 Caller This is Ben Loveline. The views expressed on Loveline are not necessarily those of the staff, the management, or the sponsors of this radio station. And you're probably not the views of Westwood One Entertainment. Loveline is produced by Anne Wilkins Engel. Now, please listen to this station longer.

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