Episode 1000754887598

1:22 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience.

1:25 Voiceover Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content.

1:29 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised.

1:31 Voiceover Adam Corolla, Dr. Drew.

1:33 Voiceover I'm not modeling anymore for the two of you.

1:35 Voiceover Loveline.

1:37 Adam Neat. It is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-L-A-V-E-1-9-1, fax number 310-8-5-4-44-55. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, and it's an adult film star night. Not only is Dr. Drew with his gay porn past, but Raylene and Chandler are both here. Both on the Vivid. Both Vivid, right?

2:04 I'm Vivid, Raylene. She's the non-Vivid Vivid girl.

2:08 Guest I'm the non-Vivid. Yeah.

2:11 Adam Just like, yeah.

2:13 Guest I work for everybody, but I prefer just working for Vivid, and I'm only cutting down to like a couple movies, and they're just going to be for Vivid and Legends, so.

2:21 Adam When you get under contract, how many do you usually contract to do a year? Is it a one-year contract?

2:27 Well, my contract is for eight movies a year.

2:30 Adam Yeah. Is that about the norm if you're under contract?

2:33 It's about, usually, I mean, you go between five and 12 movies a year, depending on how many contract girls a certain company has.

2:39 Adam How many does Vivid have?

2:41 Right now, I think as it stands, we have eight girls. Usually, it amounts to about 12, you know, that are at the signings and everything.

2:49 Adam And how do you work your way in? See, it seems, I mean, most people think that adult film actresses do like 700 movies a year. You know, they just think they're just getting nailed nonstop constantly, like on the drive into the set, there's some guy banging them in on the drive home, and it's just nonstop screwing and filming. But eight films a year, that's not even too bad. I mean, that's not a whole lot of screwing.

3:16 For those that aren't under contract, I mean, they have to work every day. I mean, they don't get paid a set amount of money, like which is a big, usually a large amount per movie. They do, you know, per scene type of things, and which I did for two years. I did, I've done over 120 movies.

3:31 Adam Yeah, you gotta work your way up.

3:32 Yeah, well, not usually. Most of the contract girls get picked up right away. Really? Before they've done any movies, yeah, because that's what their marketing technique is. I mean, they have to market a new girl. I just got pretty lucky.

3:44 Adam So, hey, do they have fluff girls still?

3:46 Guest Yeah, they do.

3:47 Adam They do?

3:49 Really?

3:50 Yeah, it's funny.

3:51 They have them for gang bangs.

3:52 Guest Yeah, just for like when those girls do the big 100 man, 2000 guy.

3:57 Adam Right, well, they need fluffers.

3:59 Yeah.

3:59 Adam The reason they need fluffers for that, Drew, and I know that the business was different back when you were in it in the mid to late 60s.

4:09 Drew 70s.

4:09 Adam And by the way, it wasn't considered taboo back then. It was everyone was doing it. It was no big deal. I did some gay porn in the late 70s. All right, but Drew's prime is in the late 60s. The fluffer, you know, when I was nine, gets the gay kiddie porn. Your dad do anything for a buck, won't he? The fluffer gets the guys going, you know, so that they're ready to go when the camera is on. And if it's like a one on one thing, maybe they don't really need them. But if they're doing one of these big gang bang things where the object is to have 100 or 300 guys have sex with one woman in an afternoon or an evening, well, each guy's got to show up ready to perform.

4:50 Drew Do they test everybody when that happens, or do they do anything to protect the girl?

4:54 Guest Yeah, they test everybody.

4:56 Drew When there's 300 guys?

4:57 Guest Yeah.

4:58 And most of the time they use condoms.

4:59 Guest Yeah, they usually use condoms.

5:02 Adam But the point is there's a long line of guys standing around their pants down.

5:07 Caller I don't think they screen them very well. I mean, have you seen some of those guys?

5:11 Adam Well, yeah, but you got to look at it this way. Those guys aren't getting a lot of trim.

5:15 Caller Yeah.

5:15 Adam I mean, you know what I mean?

5:16 Caller That's why they had to sign up.

5:17 Adam Right. I mean, on one hand, you think, what kind of dicey guy would sign up for this thing? I'd want that guy screened, so on and so forth. But another way of looking at it is, this guy ain't getting laid. I mean, if he's standing in line with his pants down, with 45 guys behind him and 111 guys in front of him with his pants down, but maybe he ain't getting as much action as you'd think.

5:40 Drew For sure, but addict guys tend to behave like that, so it might be something else.

5:43 Adam Oh, true, true. Don't bring drugs into the industry. They cleaned that up years ago. Please.

5:49 Drew It's the guys that sign up.

5:51 Adam Even them. All born again in straight arrows, I'm sure. But the point is, I want to know when the fluffer gets to them, because the fluffer can't get to them when they're number 87 in line, because first off, the fluffer... My problem with using the fluffer is I would finish with the fluffer. I wouldn't be fluffed, I'd be fluffed and folded, and I'd go home. You know what I mean? Like, I wouldn't know when to stop. Do you guys ever do any fluffing?

6:18 Caller No.

6:19 Adam No fluffing?

6:20 Caller Not on a set.

6:22 Adam Yeah, at home, that's just sex.

6:24 Guest Yeah.

6:26 Adam But I like that you think of it as fluffing.

6:27 Caller Well, you know.

6:29 Guest Yeah.

6:30 Adam I fluffed off last night.

6:32 Caller And you did. Wow.

6:33 Guest Yeah.

6:35 Adam Oh, yes. Very successful. I always finish myself. But the point is, is the fluffer must start just a couple of people before they actually get to the woman. Otherwise, it's going to be too early. They got to time it right.

6:49 Caller Right.

6:49 Adam Yeah. Although you don't know because you've never been on one of these.

6:52 Caller No, I've never seen this. It's all hearsay for me. So.

6:55 Adam All right. Well, I'm interested in still a few things here that I've been reading, like Chandler is, you're married, right?

7:05 Guest Yeah.

7:06 Drew You hesitate.

7:08 Adam You hesitate. You're married?

7:09 Guest Well, we're getting married really soon, but we call each other husband and wife. We've been together for a little over two years.

7:15 Adam Then your husband's in the industry?

7:18 Guest Now, he directed and produced a lot of movies, but he just started a new company called Pornographics. It's doing all the art for boxes and magazines and so forth and so on.

7:34 Adam You met on the set then, right?

7:36 Guest Yeah.

7:42 Adam It's an interesting way to meet your husband, isn't it?

7:44 Guest Well, he met me and then he took me out of the business because he didn't want me doing it anymore, but I jumped back in doing girls just because I really like them.

7:51 Adam Oh, you just do girl stuff?

7:53 Guest Yeah.

7:54 Adam Have you done Raylene?

7:56 Guest Yeah, a few times.

7:57 Adam Oh, really?

7:57 Guest Yeah.

7:58 Caller We have a fun house. We live together.

8:02 Adam Oh, yeah. But what about on film? You do it on film too? On film and on film?

8:08 Guest Yeah.

8:09 Caller One movie that just came out, Devil's Black Jack, that's a fun one and Mi Vida will be out pretty soon.

8:14 Adam 69 Hours, As Sweet As They Come, Rex Cobo, Mr. Elastic Scrotum, I think both of you were in. That's a classic. Violation of Chandler, that sounds good.

8:27 Guest Yeah, that was really cool.

8:28 Adam That sounds like a little anal in there.

8:30 Guest There was a lot.

8:32 Adam Oh, whenever they get the violation worked in, that's close for anal.

8:36 Caller The scene isn't complete unless you do that.

8:38 Adam Really?

8:39 Guest I waited for a long time for that movie too.

8:41 Guest For the anal stuff?

8:43 Guest I was really glad when I got it. Now, just to be violated because I was just so bored with everything and I just felt like I really needed to be violated to get anything seriously out of me.

8:54 Adam Yeah. What did the violation entail?

8:58 Guest A lot of hair pulling and hitting and spinning and I don't know.

9:03 Adam Yeah. Drew, you get that when you travel with your wife, don't you?

9:07 Drew That's at the dinner table.

9:08 Adam Nothing sexual, just you driving.

9:11 Guest All right.

9:12 Adam So, anal sex, more than one guy?

9:15 Guest No, no.

9:16 Adam Just the one guy?

9:17 Guest Yeah.

9:17 Adam Hair pulling and all that?

9:18 Guest Well, no. The whole violation thing didn't have any guys in it.

9:21 Adam Oh, it didn't. That was-

9:22 Guest No, but I'm just saying if I had any-

9:23 Adam That was a girl?

9:24 Guest No, it was a whole lot of girls.

9:26 Adam Oh, really?

9:27 Guest I think like 12 or something.

9:28 Adam And just everyone violating each other?

9:32 Power tools.

9:33 Guest Oh, my God.

9:35 Adam And it's all this going down in North Hollywood still?

9:38 Guest And a gas station. I'm not going to say which one. It was in the garage. Really? You know, the hydraulic car lifts?

9:45 Adam Sure.

9:45 Guest Yeah, it was on one of those.

9:47 Adam How did all you get up there without falling off? They put some kind of platform on it?

9:51 Guest It worked good.

9:52 Adam No, they had to put something-

9:53 Guest No, they didn't. You'll have to get the movie and see. It's really interesting. It's pretty cool.

9:57 Adam Did you bring it?

9:58 Guest No.

9:59 Drew No.

9:59 Guest I'm sorry.

10:01 Adam I see.

10:01 Drew I-

10:01 Guest If you watch that, though, you wouldn't be able to talk anymore. You'd just be stunned.

10:05 Adam That's right.

10:06 Guest Speechless the whole show.

10:07 Adam That's right. Possibly sightless, depending on how well the fluff off went. All right. Also, there's one other thing I found interesting on Chandler's cheat sheet here. You recently got back from- where the hell were you there?

10:24 Guest Amsterdam.

10:25 Adam Amsterdam. Where you went on some kind of like a hasher cruise or something. Yeah.

10:28 Guest As they do this hash cruise in this big boat.

10:32 Adam Drew, this is your life, buddy.

10:34 Guest All around the canals of Amsterdam and me and Misty Rain and Anna Mall hosted the hash tour.

10:40 Adam Anna Mall.

10:42 Guest She's a wild one.

10:43 Adam Yeah. That's Anna Mall. By the way, the subtlety is left-born because back in my day, I remember Buffy Davis. Now, Buffy Davis, I didn't even know who Buffy Davis was named after till I really thought about it one day. It's Buffy Davis from Family Affair.

11:04 Drew Right.

11:04 Adam Buffy is Buffy Davis. There's another guy named Frank James. I'd never thought about either until I thought about Jesse James' brother was Frank James. This is the great minds that used to have in porn. It was very intricate. You know what I mean? They made you work a little. My favorite one, huge black guy named FM. Bradley.

11:26 Drew Field Marshal.

11:26 Adam Field Marshal Bradley from World War II. I mean, Field Marshal Bradley was...

11:32 Drew Known for big guns.

11:33 Adam Field Marshal Bradley, there's a vehicle named after him, a fighting vehicle. Now, it's all just Come a Bang Me or something. You guys got to get more of these historical names going. You know what I mean? Why don't you work on that? Sure.

11:52 Caller I'll get right on that.

11:52 Adam Okay.

11:54 Caller I can't change my name, see, or else I'd do it for you.

11:56 Drew You think I'm a bad audience.

11:57 Guest What are some good historical names, though?

11:59 Caller I know.

11:59 Adam Well, I'm going to think of, I don't know, Bend Over Franklin or something. I mean, I could probably figure some out. Lincoln Logger. You'll probably figure something out. The point is, here's the best. The best porn names are ones you don't get the first time around, like FM. Bradley. Don't know what the hell that was until I really started. Then I realized it was Field Marshall Bradley and then I watch enough History Channel and you learn how it works. Joe?

12:28 Caller Yeah?

12:28 Adam You're 15.

12:29 Caller Yeah. I have a really bad case of ringworm. I was wondering if there's any natural way to get rid of it.

12:35 Drew First of all, how do you know that's what it is?

12:37 Caller Because my coach told me it was.

12:39 Drew Your coach told you? Oh, that's good.

12:41 Caller And he doesn't know like, I kind of want to cure it like without that stuff you buy at the store, if there's any other cheaper or better way.

12:49 Drew Because you don't want to spend the money?

12:50 Caller No, because I heard it like can mess you up besides do that.

12:53 Drew Are you talking about Lortremen, the cream?

12:56 Caller No, it's a spray, like a...

12:57 Drew No, just get some Lortremen cream, okay? All right, now, what do you mean? Where is this rash?

13:02 Caller It's on my arm.

13:03 Drew All right, get some Lortremen cream. If it doesn't go away, you got to see a dermatologist. The coach is not trained to diagnose rashes, okay?

13:08 Adam Yeah, but who has seen more rashes over the last 25 years?

13:12 Drew If he had said inguinal, testicular rash or something, it's okay.

13:17 Adam Testicular rash?

13:18 Drew Because coaches see a lot of tinnitus.

13:20 Adam A lot of guys groins? What are you talking about, Drew?

13:23 Drew A lot of jock itch and stuff.

13:25 Adam All right. Hey, Joe?

13:26 Caller Yeah?

13:26 Adam How long has this guy been coaching?

13:29 Caller 15 years.

13:30 Adam All right. He knows what he's talking about.

13:32 Caller He's also a wrestling coach, so he knows.

13:34 Drew You know what? There's a ton of other things look like ringworms. So just try the Lortremen, and it doesn't go away to see a dermatologist.

13:39 Caller Okay. Thank you. All right.

13:40 Adam And Joe?

13:41 Caller I love your show, Adam.

13:41 Adam Thank you. You're only 15. I don't want to burst your bubble. But sometimes you have to go to the store and buy stuff. You understand?

13:48 Caller Yeah.

13:49 Adam You can't just rub dirt on rashes.

13:52 Caller Okay.

13:53 Adam You know what I'm saying?

13:54 Caller Yeah.

13:54 Adam I'm just saying get used to it.

13:56 Caller Okay.

13:56 Adam All right.

13:57 Drew And I know, Adam, how much you enjoy the ringworm.

13:59 Adam I always thought ringworm was a worm.

14:02 Caller I don't even know what it is. What is ringworm?

14:04 Adam It's a rash that looks like.

14:06 Drew Tinnia corporis. It's just a little fungus, a little skin fungus.

14:09 Adam That would be my porn name.

14:11 Drew T-corporis.

14:12 Adam T-corporis. Yeah. The thinking man's porn star. All right. Does everyone get tested now? How often does everyone get tested?

14:20 Caller Every 30 days.

14:21 Adam 30 days. And do they do that DNA test?

14:24 Guest Yeah. They have to do the DNA test.

14:26 Caller It can't work unless you take it.

14:28 Adam And when you do a movie, do you have to show up with your documentation?

14:31 Caller Yes.

14:32 Guest Yeah. It has to be current.

14:34 Caller It has to be stamped with the embossment stamp.

14:37 Adam Wow. All right.

14:38 Caller No copies.

14:40 Adam Charlie?

14:41 Caller Yes.

14:42 Adam You're 26. What's up?

14:45 Caller It's been married for three years.

14:47 Been dating my wife for about seven years.

14:50 Caller For the past two years, we haven't had sex.

14:53 Guest Ouch!

14:54 Adam Two years?

14:55 Caller Sounds like my last relationship.

14:58 Guest Really?

14:58 Caller Mine, yeah.

15:00 Adam You didn't get any sex?

15:01 Caller Oh, my God. He'd have sex with me once every six months if that. He wouldn't touch me. He'd turn me down.

15:06 Adam Were you in the industry at the time?

15:07 Caller Yes, he's in the industry.

15:08 Guest You and this guy need to get together.

15:09 Adam But maybe he was freaked out about you being in the industry.

15:12 Caller He wasn't at all.

15:13 He just-

15:15 Caller Wow. Yeah, he's like-

15:17 Adam But maybe it was because he was bopping away all day.

15:21 Caller Yeah, that's what he said it was about, that he was too busy working all the time.

15:26 Adam I'm really tired from work, honey.

15:31 Drew Oh, boy. So you can have sex with somebody who doesn't know or care about it, but somebody who does care about it's now too much.

15:35 Caller Yeah, exactly. That's why I left.

15:37 Drew That's not good.

15:38 Adam Charlie?

15:39 Yeah.

15:39 Adam So you haven't had sex in two years.

15:43 I may get it maybe once every six months if that. Sometimes it just feels like it's just a pity when we do have sex.

15:49 Drew All right. So what's going on?

15:50 What's the question for us?

15:52 She says she's been depressed after the baby.

15:55 We have a little year and a half year old baby.

15:57 Drew Why doesn't she get treatment?

16:00 She's denied it. For the past year, I kept on trying to go to counseling. I tried to listen to her guys' show and talked about certain Zoloft Prozac Boost Bar.

16:12 Drew Which, by the way, all that's going to make your sex problems worse.

16:15 That's what I heard.

16:16 Drew Because the serotonin reuptake inhibitors can shut down her libido even further.

16:19 Adam Well, how's it going to get any worse?

16:21 Drew But there are alternatives, like serotonin remeron and wellbutrin, that are quite effective without and may even stimulate, substantially, her sex drive and bring things back to normal.

16:30 Adam Can't you women just hold still for a few minutes, twice a week? You really don't have to do that much. You know what I'm saying?

16:39 Drew You know what, Adam, interesting point. The whole issue of receptivity for a woman is actually a biological process. It's largely estrogen driven. And the depression shuts all that down, so they're not receptive.

16:52 Adam I understand that.

16:52 Drew It's not even just that they don't want to do it. They can't receive. They're not that open to it.

16:56 Adam Well listen, I was depressed for many years and I never wanted to go to work. I got up in the morning and I'd be like, oh, I do not want to go to work. It's 105 degrees, I'm working in Van Nuys, swinging a hammer. This sucks. But you know what? I'd just go to work because I realize the boss is going to be pissed if I don't show up.

17:14 Drew Think about how you scream about how you hate those people and everybody who's involved with that.

17:19 Adam Okay, that's, no, I don't blame them, Drew. I'm going to kill them, but I don't blame them. But I'm saying she knows she's depressed, she knows all of this is going on, and she knows poor Charlie's out here blowing in the wind for six months at a time. She ought to just realize what she's going through and just hold her ass still for a week, once a week, and let Charlie take care of business.

17:39 Drew You know how I never talk about the book we wrote?

17:41 Adam Yes.

17:41 Drew I wrote a book about depression and relationships. I never talked about it. It's called Restoring Intimacy. All the proceeds for it go to the National Depressive and Manic Depressive Association. You can get it on the web at Amazon, and it talks about some amazing professionals contributed to this thing. It talks about how important it is to hang in a relationship when your partner's got depression and what kinds of things you need to watch out for.

18:02 Adam But she has to try to get better.

18:04 Drew She's got to get better. Postpartum depression can be life threatening. It's a profound depression. And your kid needs her to be available. Having a depressed mom is actually a damaging psychological circumstance.

18:14 Dr. Drew, there's been times she's been afraid that she got so angry she might hit the baby.

18:19 Drew You must. You must. It scared me.

18:22 She just went to the doctor last month and he got her on Zoloft. And she said lately she's been in a better mood. But also she hasn't given me sex because her reason is saying that she don't want to resent me because she's given it up.

18:34 Drew Zoloft shuts her down further. To see but adding Will Butrin to the Zoloft.

18:38 Adam Charlie, did anything ever happen to her? Anyone do anything to her?

18:41 No. She's had a father and mother. Everything's great.

18:43 Adam All right. Hey, Charlie, listen to me. You got to take charge for your kid's sake. You'll be the man. You straighten her out. I'm not talking about hold her down, have sex with her. I'm talking about saying, listen, honey, you're depressed. This has gone on long enough. You either take care of business or I'm going to take some action.

19:02 Caller I just did that. That's why she went to the doctor.

19:04 Drew Well, she needs to see a psychiatrist. A general doctor shouldn't be managing something this severe.

19:09 Adam Do they have porn psychiatrists?

19:11 Drew Interesting question.

19:11 Caller No, they should though.

19:13 Adam They really should.

19:13 I want to be the first porn psychiatrist.

19:17 Adam Nowadays, any large corporation, any professional team, football, baseball, basketball, they all have psychologists because they have people that are-

19:27 Drew Special needs. Yeah.

19:28 Adam Special needs. That is such a great idea. Whether you're an athlete or a porn star, you're kind of- you're running pretty close to breaking at any moment now.

19:38 Drew I worked for the NBA for a long while.

19:40 Adam You did.

19:40 Drew I was the regional-

19:41 Adam Your power forward for the Nuggets.

19:42 Drew No, no. I was the regional addiction medicine person.

19:45 Adam Yeah. They realize that- Oh, yeah. Spend a few bucks and save a few bucks. Give Drew a few bucks and keep a few guys out of rehab or from self-destructing or getting thrown in jail. I would like to do some porn therapy.

20:01 Guest Well, they've got, through AIM, they've got some kind of counseling, I guess. AIM? I saw it on the fly, Adult Industry Medical. It's like where everybody gets tested. I don't know.

20:10 Adam You know that? Change the name of that to DOC. AIM just sounds like someone's going to lose an ass.

20:17 Guest Well, it stands for- It's like an abbreviation.

20:20 Drew They had to get rid of- They couldn't be SAG.

20:21 Caller It's a great place to take care of us there.

20:24 Adam A little too limp. We're in SAG. That's like everyone's dragging something, dragging apart. I guess we could be in LIMP.

20:34 Drew SAG, LIMP, same thing.

20:35 Adam You remember SAG or LIMP. So AIM tries to take care of the physical stuff.

20:41 Guest Yeah, they've got all kinds of programs that you can get into.

20:46 Adam You know what the next step is? Because the porn industry is becoming more and more legitimate. I mean, it used to be a real dark alley kind of thing. Now people are getting contracts, people are getting tested. It's become very... Structured. Yeah, well, I was mainstream. I was going to say almost... I predict years from now there will be a retirement home for old porn stars.

21:11 Caller God, I hope so.

21:13 Guest They really should have one.

21:14 Caller They should, because we're all one big family. I mean...

21:16 Guest And there's all the chicks that just think they can keep going forever. No, I never... Until they're hanging to their knees and it just...

21:25 Adam There will be women in their early thirties living in that home.

21:28 Guest Oh my God. It would be horrible.

21:30 Adam It would be a big bronze statue of Ron Jeremy out front holding the vibrator or something and some sort of Latin inscription on the door that loosely translates into welcome sluts or something. I haven't worked out all the details on it yet.

21:51 Guest You should open one of these up.

21:53 Adam I should open. Okay, so what do I got to do? I got to open one of these old age homes for retirement homes for porn stars and become the porn psychologist.

22:02 Guest Yeah. See, we're set. And then you can write a book.

22:05 Adam Now, I'm not doing it for me. I'm not doing it for profit. I'm doing it because I love the industry and I want to see what's going on. And I want my kids and their kids to enjoy pornography.

22:14 Drew Not associated with longevity.

22:17 Adam The career?

22:18 Drew Not associated with longevity.

22:19 Adam No. I'd really like to break it down like professional football player, porn star, professional basketball player.

22:28 Drew Home for each?

22:29 Adam No. I'm just saying who lasts.

22:31 Drew Oh, football? Yeah. No. Yeah.

22:32 Adam Football is like 2.6 years or whatever it turns out to be.

22:36 Drew You mean in the career? Yeah. Career-wise. I'm talking about life expectancy.

22:39 Adam Oh, really? Porn stars don't live long?

22:41 Drew Well, think about it. Well, what?

22:45 Adam Don't bring the girls down.

22:46 Drew No. No. No. It's historically has been a lot of- Asshole. A lot of-

22:49 Adam Please, Drew.

22:50 Drew There's a lot of deaths. Young.

22:52 Adam Why? Suicide, depression.

22:55 Drew Yes. That kind of thing.

22:56 Adam The HIV. But they're getting this stuff under control.

23:00 Caller The HIV is scary.

23:01 Adam But if I can get in and start providing some much needed therapy for some of these folks, maybe we could extend the average life span.

23:07 Caller Those of us who lead normal lives will live longer.

23:11 Drew You got to get the AIM program in first, then you get the old folks home.

23:15 Adam All right. All right. Raylene and Chandler are both here, both adult film stars. I had to have some websites and stuff. I should give those out when we come back and you can look them up and see what you're in for. We'll take a little break. We'll be back after this.

23:33 Drew With Adam Crowell and Dr. Drew, we'll be right back before you know it.

24:01 Adam Oh, boy. Phone number 1-800-LE-VE-191, fax number 311. I'll forget about that. I'm Adam, that is Dr. Drew, Raylene and Chandler, both here, both adult film stars, at least for the time being until Drew can talk them out of it. Jesus Christ, you suck the sex right out of the room, like some sort of sex dust buster. Shut up, Drew. Drew, all grilling the girls, all commercial really, being objectified that way in the very aggressive, very aggressive industry. And do your parents know what's going on over there? And what about Jesus Christ? Do you ever feel that he's, there's the grip and the key grip, a gaffer, cameraman, director, but what about Jesus? Is he on set? I think he is.

24:54 Drew He is.

24:54 Adam He knows what's going on. Please, Drew, what do you want them to do?

24:59 Drew I'm interested in everybody as people, as humans. And I know they're experiencing something.

25:03 Adam Stop looking at everyone as humans. That's your problem.

25:05 Drew I know that bugs you. I know that bothers you. It ruins the whole deal for you, in fact.

25:08 Adam That's why I don't have the sound up. I don't want to hear any talk.

25:11 Drew I finally got the exotic dance places out of you.

25:16 Adam You did?

25:17 Drew You can't do that?

25:17 Adam No, yes, I can.

25:19 Drew Oh, you can?

25:19 Adam Oh, yes. Please, Drew.

25:22 Guest I should go see Raylene.

25:23 Adam Where are you dancing, Raylene?

25:24 Caller I will be at the Sparement Rhinow in the City of Industry at the end of February around the 19th time and in the middle of March, I will be at Golden Eyes in Arcadia.

25:34 Adam Oh, and totally nude or topless?

25:37 Caller Totally nude.

25:38 Adam All right.

25:39 Caller Absolutely.

25:39 Adam There you go. I'm guessing if I give these websites out, they can see you totally nude. Is that true?

25:46 Caller I think so.

25:47 Adam Now, how does it work? How do you make money? They pay a little something and see what they want to see? Do they get a little sample at the beginning?

25:54 Caller At vividvideo.com, I'm pretty sure you become a member, which is totally worth it.

26:00 Adam How much is it to become a member?

26:01 Caller I have no idea. I don't know. I don't pay for it. I get it for free.

26:07 Adam Let me explain why I would never become a member of something like this.

26:11 Drew You'd never leave the house.

26:12 Adam Well, that's one, unless I could get the computer in the car somehow, but I'd have to work that out while I was driving. But here's the way I would look at it. I like to masturbate and I'm cheap. So let me explain how that would translate. I would pay the $62 a month to be part of this whatever, and then I would break it down. Well, if I whack off once a month while watching this porn on computer, it's $64 worth of whack. On the other hand, if I whack off 128 times, it's 50 cents a whack. And I would just keep doing the math until I got it down to about a quarter a whack. You know what I'm saying? That's funny. And then I would probably end up dying. Dehydrate and find me in front of the computer.

27:02 Drew Just imagine the image.

27:04 Adam I mean, the point is, if I paid the $64, I couldn't go to Europe for vacation for two weeks because that'd be $32 down the drain. I have to come home, masturbate, and then go back to Europe again. Right, Drew?

27:16 Drew That's you.

27:16 Adam All right. So let me give the websites. Well, there's the www.vividvideo.com, and Chandler has hers at www.chandlerxxx.com. So that's chandlerxxx.com. Oh, it's not available yet though, is it?

27:35 Guest No, I'm in the process of building it. I'm going to have a really, really cool site, and guys will enjoy whacking to it all the time, and girls will too. Yeah.

27:45 Adam All right.

27:46 Guest I'm going to have my private stock videos that nobody could get anywhere in a fan club that's going to have a lot of really cool stuff.

27:53 Caller Or you could email us at home at raylenexxx.aol.

27:56 Adam And what do you do? What do we do if we email you?

27:59 Caller I'll email you back.

28:01 Adam I can't wait for that.

28:04 Yeah?

28:05 Adam You're 18?

28:06 Caller Yep.

28:06 Adam What's up?

28:07 Caller Okay, I've been going out with my boyfriend since March, and we got pregnant right away, and I had a miscarriage. And my parents sent me over to Europe for three months to get my head on straight and stuff. And this past Sunday, he told me while I was over there that he slept with one of my friends. And this girl, I mean, I'm not going to call her white trash because I don't want to insult the white trash people. But I need to know what to do, and I don't know what to do.

28:36 Guest Sleep with the girl.

28:38 Caller Excuse me?

28:39 Guest Sleep with the girl. Get him back.

28:41 Caller But she's, I don't even want to, like, I want to break a bottle in her face. That's how angry at her I am.

28:46 Drew Lisa, this whole situation is a total mess. You had an abortion?

28:49 Caller Yeah.

28:50 Adam I thought you had a miscarriage.

28:52 Caller It was a spontaneous abortion, a miscarriage.

28:55 Adam Okay. And performed by a doctor? No. Okay. And your parents sent you to Europe for three months to clear your head?

29:03 Caller Like to get me back on the straight and everything.

29:05 Drew That, by the way, is an excuse me, Lisa, but a sick move. I mean, that is not the way to deal with a troubled 18-year-old.

29:12 Adam Although, I wish they wouldn't send me to Europe to get my head on the straight.

29:15 Drew I know.

29:16 Adam Hey, really?

29:17 Caller They just wanted to get me away from him.

29:18 Adam Yeah.

29:19 Drew I understand that. But what is it? Have they been checked out of your life forever?

29:23 Caller No.

29:24 Adam Well, what do you... Are your parents wealthy?

29:28 Caller We're well off.

29:30 Adam Yes?

29:31 Caller Yes.

29:31 Adam Okay. And do you have family or...

29:35 Caller Yeah. We have family in Ireland.

29:36 Adam You do. So you want to stay with your family in Ireland?

29:39 Caller Yeah.

29:40 Adam All right. Well, it's making a little more sense.

29:42 Caller Yes.

29:42 Adam And how old is this guy?

29:44 Caller He's 18 as well.

29:45 Adam And now, you say you went to Ireland to get your head screwed on straight because of this guy, but you say while you were gone, he had sex with one of your friends.

29:53 Caller Yeah. And he just told me this past Sunday and...

29:55 Adam All right. But listen, why were you so whacked out with him before he had sex with your friend? Because he only had sex with your friend after you went to Ireland.

30:03 Caller Right. And he didn't tell me. And I didn't know when I came back.

30:08 Drew Wasn't the idea of you going to Ireland to be away from him so you wouldn't continue that relationship?

30:11 Caller Yes, it was.

30:12 Drew All right. So why do you care?

30:14 Caller Because I love him.

30:16 Adam But, Ace, Ms. Screwball? Yeah? I'm asking, what was the major trouble before that caused you to go to Ireland to get your head screwed on straight? Well, she had the pregnancy, but...

30:28 Drew Family said her.

30:29 Adam She had the miscarriage, but that's, you know, doesn't mean...

30:32 Drew Family wanted to separate them.

30:33 Adam Why? Yeah, I understand that. What is going on? What went on with you two?

30:37 Caller Like how? Like what do you mean?

30:39 Adam No.

30:39 Caller Like my parents...

30:40 Adam Man, I know the white trash people are laughing at Lisa. You can't buy intelligence, can you? Hey, listen, goofball. Why is your family so dead set against you two being together?

30:52 Caller Because they don't like him because of what happened.

30:54 Drew Because of the pregnancy.

30:55 Caller Right.

30:56 Drew Before the pregnancy, yeah.

30:57 Adam There's more than that.

30:57 Drew Before the pregnancy, they were fine with him?

30:59 Caller Yes.

31:00 Drew No.

31:01 Adam No. And he was never able to explain anything or anything like that?

31:06 Caller Right.

31:06 Adam Right. Okay, what's his situation? He's not rich.

31:10 Caller No.

31:10 Adam No.

31:11 Guest Get over him.

31:11 Adam He's a troublemaker, isn't he?

31:13 Caller Pretty much.

31:14 Adam Wrong side of the tracks.

31:15 Caller Get a new one.

31:16 Guest That's right.

31:17 Adam Okay, let me explain. Let me explain the situation here.

31:20 Drew Yeah, she hates her parents.

31:22 Adam Her parents are rich and they've thrown money at her her whole life.

31:26 Drew But they just checked out.

31:26 Adam But they check out. They're not there for her. So what does she do? Well, she does what's going to drive them the most crazy. She hooks up with the idiot, poor guy, white trash guy, troublemaker guy, immediately gets pregnant, and immediately the family, by the way, mysteriously enough, knows everything. Guess what? Guy knocked me up and had a miscarriage.

31:50 Drew She made sure they knew everything.

31:51 Adam She made sure they knew everything. They freaked them away.

31:54 Drew Here's the other amazing piece. They check out her whole life and they deal with this crisis by checking out.

32:00 Adam Hey, Lisa, you're mad at your parents.

32:03 Caller No, I think she's mad at her friend. She's mad at her friends for sleeping with her ex-boyfriend.

32:07 Adam She don't like her either. But you're really-

32:09 Caller That's okay. My best friend is living with my ex-boyfriend.

32:12 Caller But she knew I was pregnant too, and she knew what happened.

32:15 Drew You got to look beneath this. This is about your parents.

32:17 Caller You got to look for the bodily functions here. It happens.

32:20 Adam You're pissed at your parents first and foremost, right? You don't like them.

32:25 Caller No, I love my dad. My dad's awesome.

32:27 Drew But mom?

32:27 Caller My mom, yeah.

32:28 Drew What's up with mom?

32:32 Caller Well, she didn't raise me right off the bat. I mean, she gave me to my father to raise me because she went through major post-depression after I was born and stuff.

32:43 Drew All right. See, we have some big time abandonment issues. Of course. Then what do they do to deal with your crisis when you're the most acting out of vulnerable?

32:52 Caller They check out like Adam.

32:54 Drew They check out. They abandon you again. They send you to Europe.

32:56 Adam Right. This guy, I know you think you really, really love him, but I think the fact that you're really... And Lisa, remember this conversation because you're going to look back at it in 10 years and realize we're all 100% right.

33:10 Caller You guys usually are. We are.

33:12 Adam We always are. And it doesn't mean you can do anything about it, but we're right here. The reason you're so attracted to this guy is because...

33:19 Drew You're so pissed.

33:20 Adam You're so pissed at your mom and somewhat at your dad for letting your mom do what she did and this guy will drive them nuts. They hate this guy and as well they should, I'm sure.

33:31 Drew Try to think in terms of finding a relationship that's better for you. This guy is not the solution to your problems, even though you think he is.

33:38 Adam Boy, I'll tell you, you chicks.

33:40 Caller And that chick is not your friend, so...

33:42 Drew That's true.

33:42 Caller Get over her.

33:43 Adam No, but all the anger you have toward her is really... I mean, let's face it, you went away to Ireland for an indefinite period of time when you guys broke up and he banged whoever else was in the neighborhood. And be mad at him, by the way, too.

33:56 Caller Yeah, it takes two.

33:57 Adam Of course.

33:58 Caller It's happened to all of us.

33:59 Adam I'll tell you, you women, women are so... They spin out so easily.

34:04 Drew But they focus their anger in the wrong places.

34:07 Adam God, love that. I love that. I want to find a woman where I can bang her best friend and have her want to kill the best friend.

34:15 Drew And not even think about you.

34:16 Adam Yeah, hey, honey, stand back. I'm going to kill her. Do you know what Drew's wife would do to Drew if this situation happened, if Drew had sex with one of her friends? She would walk right past that friend, go right to your scrotum with a pitchfork, a chainsaw.

34:34 Caller That's what porno girls look good for. None of us are jealous.

34:37 Guest Yeah, see, I usually tend to, like, my ex would cheat on me and I would just sleep with the girl, you know, if he's going to sleep with her so long.

34:45 Adam Very healthy, very healthy.

34:45 Caller And I'm going to get some, we have to get some. That's the whole...

34:49 Adam This is, you guys should write a book, you really should, or do a PSA. That's what you should do. Forget about condoms. Let's talk about psychology. Man cheats on you, you go down on his girlfriend. Exactly. All right. I know we got to take a break here, but let's squeeze in Lou here. Lou?

35:06 Hello.

35:06 Adam You're 23?

35:07 Caller Yeah.

35:08 Adam What's up?

35:09 Caller I just have a question for your guest, and then one for Dr. Drew. I wanted to know if all the women in porn are bisexual, and I wanted to ask Drew if the recent bisexuality amongst women being in vogue is a direct result of what goes on in these porno tapes.

35:30 Drew You want to settle now or wait till after the break?

35:32 Adam We're going to take a break.

35:32 Drew Yeah.

35:33 Adam Hang on, Lou. Okay. Both very good questions. Semi-retarded, but pretty good.

35:40 Caller Egotar-ed.

35:41 Adam All right. We're going to take a little break, then we'll get back. We'll get with Lou. We'll talk a little more about the adult industry and get to the bottom of the bisexuality after this.

35:50 Caller Let's have some more fun.

35:52 Caller Okay, let's do it.

35:54 Call Loveline 1-800-LOVE-191.

35:58 Caller Loveline will be right back. Well, here's how it's sample.

36:32 Adam It's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. This is Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Chandler and Raylene are both here, both in the adult film industry, both slowly backing themselves out of the industry as they get saner and saner as the years wear on. I don't want to sound like another one of Drew's, but we've never ran into anybody in this industry that didn't have the same past, or at least something close. Dad had to be either bad or out of the picture early. That's the only way it works out in this business.

37:08 Drew Usually a second hit somewhere right after that, too.

37:11 Adam It's, yeah, Raylene, your dad passed away when you were...

37:15 Caller My father died when I was nine years old from cancer.

37:17 Adam Oh, boy. And Chandler, your dad?

37:20 Guest Well, my parents got divorced when I was, like, six, and my mom moved me from Washington to Florida.

37:25 Drew State of Washington's better?

37:26 Guest Yeah.

37:28 Adam That's not so bad. Well, that's why you're not... See, it's funny, because both of you are, like, you know, probably more screwed up a couple years ago than you are now.

37:37 Caller Oh, yeah. Definitely. We've totally grown up.

37:40 Adam And I think the saner you get, the further you get away from the industry.

37:47 Guest Once you figure out all your problems and issues in life that you couldn't really figure out before, yeah, you tend to stray away from it and realize that you're not as...

37:56 Caller I mean, it's a stepping ladder to start yourself in a different direction. I mean, we have so many opportunities in this industry to do other things, like as far as camera work and things like that. So, like, once you do realize where you're going, you have that opportunity sitting in front of you.

38:10 Adam Well, what about, like, dancing? Like, if you just went to a club and wanted to dance and you just got off the bus, you would make much less than you would if you went as an adult film star, right?

38:25 Caller Absolutely, yes.

38:26 Guest Completely.

38:28 Adam Because not only do you get the tips, but you get booked, right?

38:32 Caller Yes.

38:33 Adam I mean, the club pays you, correct?

38:34 Guest Right.

38:36 Adam I got to get into that dancing.

38:37 Caller It's great. I love doing it too. It's so much fun. You meet so many nice girls. I've met so many nice girls on the road.

38:44 Adam No. Really?

38:45 Caller Oh, yeah.

38:46 Adam Oh, and everyone's bi, right?

38:48 Guest Not everyone. Most of them.

38:50 Caller There's not everyone, yeah.

38:51 Adam All right.

38:52 Guest You try to talk to those ones.

38:53 Adam Let's find out what was.

38:55 Drew Lube.

38:56 Adam Yeah. I think in this day and age, and listen, it's like, honey, you're dancing around, your panties are off, you weren't stiletto heels. There's guys throwing rolled up tens at your crotch. Come on. You're open. At least you wouldn't call the girl prudish. I mean, you could probably talk her into doing something bi.

39:16 Caller Well, you know what? Chandler and I have lots of luck changing girls.

39:19 Guest A lot. I don't know what it is with me.

39:21 Caller I don't know what it is with me either.

39:22 Guest I really don't have any idea.

39:25 Caller I think it's the house. It's our house.

39:27 Guest No, it was the only house that came along.

39:30 Adam What do you do? Hold on a second. Do you go out and meet women at bars and stuff?

39:35 Caller Not at bars.

39:36 Guest No, I've been with girls since I was like eight.

39:39 Drew Eight years old?

39:40 Caller Yeah, me too.

39:40 Drew That's part of it.

39:41 Caller I've always liked girls.

39:42 Drew Oh, wait a minute.

39:44 Adam I've been with women since 27, 28.

39:48 Guest I've always known since I was a little girl that I've liked girls. It's been that way. But I came across porno and adult magazines that are really, really early age and was just like, I know I like girls, and it just happens.

40:06 Adam It's as if you've become some poster child for every one of Drew's porno-related theories. Yeah. I got to have dad skip out or die or get it. Just get out of the picture. Got to come across some pornography. Got to have some experiences.

40:24 Drew Early.

40:26 Adam Pre-puberty experiences. Yeah. It was like ordain. Lou?

40:33 Caller Hello.

40:33 Adam You're 23. You want to know if all the girls in porn are bi?

40:38 Caller Yeah. Then I had a question for Drew.

40:40 Adam Obviously, not all of them are.

40:42 Drew But the history, the picture that we painted already of our guests is a recipe for bisexuality. I mean, that's what creates those sorts of sexual issues.

40:52 Adam Well, and certainly open and accelerated sexuality. But let me ask you guys, obviously, do all women have to perform bisexual stuff?

41:02 Guest No. There's a lot of girls that choose not to. But then there's a lot of girls that will do it for the money. So.

41:08 Adam But are, okay. So there's a certain percentage of women in the business who will not do lesbian stuff.

41:15 Guest Right.

41:16 Caller One of the vivid girls doesn't do.

41:17 Adam What percentage do you think that is?

41:19 Guest Yeah.

41:19 Caller That's like a very low. Yeah.

41:22 Adam Right. Okay. So that's, that's almost neither here nor there. But then there's another percentage that isn't really bi. They're just doing it because that's what the script says and they're getting paid to do what the script says, right? Now what percentage do you think are just doing it because it's in the script?

41:37 Caller That would be like another two percent, most of them.

41:39 Adam Oh, really? That?

41:40 Caller I think so.

41:40 Guest Yeah.

41:41 Adam Two percent?

41:41 Caller Maybe ten percent.

41:42 Guest No, maybe five.

41:44 Adam Five? I mean, it's that low? Ninety-five percent of women are bi that are in?

41:50 Caller Right.

41:50 Guest That I've met in my life, yeah.

41:52 Adam Well, you got that velvety tongue that magically converts all women into bisexuals. It's not just that. Well, tongue and thumb, I don't know what else to say. I'm not sure what women like down there. But the point is, it's got to be more than that. I mean, it can't be every woman in porn is bisexual. It's got to be 30, 40 percent that aren't, that just do it. Don't you think so?

42:18 Guest Well, some girls come in that aren't or didn't know that they were, and they start doing it for the money and realize that they like girls too.

42:25 Adam All right. So in all the movies and experiences you've had in the industry, you've never had sex with a woman who was not really into it, just doing it.

42:35 Guest No, I haven't. It's really lame.

42:36 Caller Yeah. We've done it by accident. Now we're very careful not to. Yeah, I make sure I say that. We work with the ones that really do like girls.

42:42 Adam Yeah, because otherwise it's kind of a weird scene.

42:44 Caller Yeah, and you want it to be a rockin scene.

42:46 Adam Right. And no one's that good an actor or actress, right?

42:49 Caller Right.

42:50 Adam All right. Hey, Lou?

42:51 Caller Yes.

42:51 Adam All right. So your answer is most all of them.

42:55 Caller Okay.

42:55 Adam So that's really going to help when you're watching the next movie, right? I mean, emotionally.

43:00 Caller Yeah, I suppose so. But Dr. Drew?

43:02 Drew Yeah.

43:04 Caller Do you think that's why bisexuality seems to be so much in vogue now in mainstream because it's so commonplace in these videos?

43:15 Drew No, I don't. No, I don't.

43:17 Adam No, because not enough women watch adult movies to affect the country that way. But it certainly probably makes up a small percentage of it.

43:28 Drew It influences, but there's a whole bunch of issues coming to bear. I mean, it's the issues of all the aggression and abandonment issues we've been talking about tonight that get converted into sexual energies and bad boundaries and therefore there's sort of confusion about sexual identity that's very common and then sort of a social push for women to experiment. There's some sort of momentum with that now and I don't think this is where it comes from.

43:49 Adam All right, who are you guys more into, me or Drew?

43:53 Raylene.

43:54 Caller Chandler.

43:55 Guest I'm sorry.

43:56 Caller I had to agree she's my wife.

43:58 Guest I love you both but.

43:59 Drew All right, you know Adam is hurt. That bothers you more than anything, huh?

44:03 Adam Yeah, I'm really crushed.

44:04 Caller No, we love you both. See, we can't like separate those whole feelings because.

44:08 Adam You can't?

44:08 Caller No, that's not right.

44:10 Drew Adam, I have something to tell you too. In this room, it's you.

44:14 Adam Is it me? Oh, you know your wife's listening.

44:16 Caller See, I'm mostly into girls.

44:17 Guest I'm marrying the guy that I am because there's just something between us I can't explain but I'm like 98% lesbian. But I love him a lot and things are great.

44:28 Adam It's gonna last forever.

44:30 Caller It will.

44:30 Adam I'm telling you, it will never end. It will never end. You're 98% lesbian. You're marrying a guy.

44:36 Guest It's okay, though.

44:36 Adam This is never gonna work.

44:38 Guest It's all good.

44:39 Adam But listen. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Listen, I love Drew. Yeah. Doesn't mean we're getting married anytime soon. I don't. Now listen, listen.

44:49 Guest I don't have much in common with anybody else.

44:50 Adam We have a lot in common. Oh, who cares? Common.

44:53 Guest No, we get along.

44:55 Adam I don't get along with many people.

44:56 Guest So what?

44:57 Adam How you can't get married at 98% lesbian. They won't even grant you a marriage license. If you're over 95% lesbian in most states, except for Nevada, they will not grant you a license.

45:09 Guest That's why.

45:10 Adam You understand? You're going to have to shave that 98. You're going to get down to 94. You cannot get-

45:15 Guest He's the only man I love.

45:16 Adam Okay, but do you have to marry him?

45:19 Guest Yes, because I want to spend the rest of my life with him.

45:21 Adam Okay, but weren't you married like 45 minutes ago and it didn't work out?

45:26 Guest That was obnoxious and that was a technical difficulty in my life.

45:29 Adam That was then?

45:30 Guest Yeah, that was-

45:31 Adam All right, but this one?

45:32 Guest Somebody I don't even know anymore.

45:33 Adam This is different?

45:34 Guest Yeah.

45:35 Adam No, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, don't get married.

45:38 Guest It's a sober relationship. Sober relationships work.

45:41 Drew You're both in the program?

45:43 Guest He's in the program. I am sober, but I don't go to the program.

45:48 Drew You're in the program. Abstinent is a whole different thing.

45:50 Adam You should have never brought it up in front of Drew.

45:52 Drew It's a very different thing.

45:53 Adam You're not going to meetings.

45:54 Guest I don't get it. I've gone to a couple of meetings. They just-

45:57 Drew An abstinent, an abstinent.

45:58 Guest Meetings and listening to people bring up all those things because I know exactly what they're talking about. It gets me really emotional and I'll sit there and cry. And so until I'm ready to go to meetings and not be a big baby and cry the whole time, I'll go.

46:13 Drew You're supposed to connect with those feelings and you've got to get a sponsor and then work through them.

46:16 Guest I know.

46:17 Drew We're not going to let this marriage go down. Here's the problem with an abstinent and a sober. Both use. Always. Always. If one is sober and one is abstinent, they both relapse. Always. That's not true. That's a medical fact.

46:31 Guest We've had major reasons to make us quit though. All right.

46:35 Drew Either both you get sober and then it goes on or both you will use.

46:39 Adam Raylene, you like me, right?

46:41 Caller I love you.

46:42 Drew That's just the way it works.

46:44 Adam I'm pretty hot, right?

46:45 Caller Yes, very.

46:46 Adam All right. Now we're talking.

46:48 Caller What about me? He need to return the favor.

46:50 Adam No, you're hot. You're super hot. I got two TV shows. I mean, they're both on cable.

46:55 Drew You have a white chromosome.

46:57 Adam That's right.

46:58 Drew What's the problem?

46:59 Adam Shut up, Drew. I'll tell you what. Listen, do not get married. Drew, you set up an intervention or something during the break. We'll come back and figure out what direction the show is going after this.

47:18 Caller Loveline will be right back.

47:45 Adam It is Loveline. We're going to take ourselves a quick 10-second timeout. We'll be back with more of the show in just 10 seconds.

47:52 Guest This is Loveline on Radio Station.

48:07 Adam It is Loveline and Adam Corolla, Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Raylene and Chandler are both in here tonight, both at least full-time or part-time Vivid. Girls in the adult film industry, you can find them if you go on vivid.com, vividvideo.com. Are both of you on there?

48:31 Guest I don't know if she's on there.

48:33 Adam I'm sure you can pull up some pictures. All right. Raylene, and how do you find you once you get on that?

48:40 Caller You have to join.

48:42 Adam You got to join?

48:42 Caller Yeah. I'm not on the cover page this month.

48:44 Adam Did you guys bring some videos? You brought some videos tonight, right?

48:46 Caller I'm pretty sure we did, yes.

48:47 Adam With you guys in it? Yes. All right. Hold on. What's that, my precious? Don't talk. That was my penis. The penis.

48:58 Guest Hold on.

48:59 Adam An hour. Don't argue. We have to finish the second half of the show.

49:04 Guest Does your penis have a name?

49:05 Adam No.

49:07 That's sad.

49:07 Caller I know.

49:08 Adam No.

49:09 He's nameless. The nameless penis.

49:11 Caller That sucks.

49:13 Adam Well, actually, I mean, when we're on good terms, you know, I call him...

49:19 Drew Butch.

49:21 Guest I told him stumpo.

49:24 Adam No, he was just piping up. He wanted to go home. He wanted to get the videos and just go home. I told him we had to finish the rest of the show. Now, he's pouting. And drooling, I think. All right. So, what the hell? Where were we? All right. So, what do we figure out? Chandler's got to do the steps and can't get married. That's what we figured out.

49:45 Guest Yes, I'm getting married.

49:46 Adam I'll do the steps, but I'm getting married. 98% lesbian.

49:49 Guest August 19th.

49:50 Adam I give it a week. Please.

49:52 Guest I give it the rest of my week.

49:53 Adam Why do you have to get married?

49:54 Guest Because I want to sit on my front porch when I'm 80 years old in a rocking chair reminiscing about good times.

50:01 Drew Then you've got to get in the program.

50:02 Guest I will. If I have to do that to marry him, I will.

50:05 Drew Well, if you live to 80, you've got to do that. All right.

50:07 Adam So listen, you've got to go to meetings. I've got an idea. Why don't you start doing the meetings and then you get married?

50:14 Drew No, she says you get a sponsor and just talk.

50:16 Adam That's what I'm saying.

50:17 Drew We can't convince her to go to meetings yet.

50:19 Adam Oh, OK. Kara?

50:21 Yeah.

50:21 Adam You're 25.

50:22 Caller Yes. What's up? I have a comment and also a question. Actually, two questions. My first thing is, I used to be a dancer and I was in it for about three and a half years now, but I just got out of it because I realized that as a black woman, I didn't feel as if it was too inviting as a black woman. Do you understand what I'm saying?

50:45 Adam No.

50:45 Drew The culture didn't welcome you?

50:47 Caller No. I mean, no. I was very, I was myself. I was nice. I spoke to people and I got along really well with people, but on the whole, on the average, I just didn't feel as if it was very welcoming to me. And so after a while, I just.

51:06 Adam What do you mean though as a black woman?

51:08 Caller Well, the reason why I say that is because, like for instance, first of all, I heard a lot of racial comments. You know, I've danced in DC and in Virginia and in Phoenix and a little bit in California too. And just all throughout the places, I've heard all kinds of racial comments.

51:31 Drew We just have to accept that she didn't feel good.

51:33 Adam From the people in the audience?

51:35 Caller Yeah, from the guys.

51:36 Adam Oh really?

51:37 Caller Yeah, that's what I mean.

51:38 Drew All right, what else? What else can we add?

51:39 Caller Okay. So anyway, what I want to say is, okay, I've been out of it now for a year. I have no desire to go back into it. And I had that father thing go out of my life when he was early too. My question is, I feel as if I put closure over this Christmas vacation. I put closure there.

51:58 Drew Over the loss of your dad, the abandonment?

52:00 Caller Over the abandonment, because he would actually use religion to try to excuse himself for his behavior and saying that, well, the Bible said, always honor thy father and mother, and I shouldn't. Yeah, and so that's basically it. And finally, I felt like I had the courage to tell him, you know, I don't really need you. I don't need you in my life anymore. And I said that, and you know, I was a little shaken up. That was the first time I had ever said anything like that to him, and now I feel like I put the closure, but I don't.

52:28 Drew Kara?

52:28 Caller Yes?

52:29 Drew That is not closure. That is just opening the door to beginning the process of getting over what he's done to you. That is just, that is the beginning.

52:38 Caller OK, good.

52:39 Drew That is not closure.

52:40 Caller OK, good.

52:41 Drew That is starting to get better.

52:42 Adam All right, let's not cramp on her parade here. Well, no, she's done something.

52:46 Caller No, I like the blunt honesty.

52:47 Drew She has done something, but she has to now do the work.

52:50 Adam All right, but she's begun to take the first step in a long journey.

52:53 Drew Yes, yes.

52:54 Adam OK, so you confronted your father. Good. You got out of dancing. Good. And now what?

53:00 Caller No, that was, I just wanted to know if I have to go to therapy because I don't, even though I said that there was closure, I didn't feel it.

53:07 Adam Of course not.

53:08 Caller And so that's why I was wondering what I have to do.

53:11 Caller I can't laugh.

53:12 Adam Well, hey, hey, Kara.

53:14 Caller Yes.

53:14 Adam This happened to me once. You know, as it turns out, I didn't say it loud enough. See, sometimes you got to go, I felt like I had closure. And then, then it turns out it works. So you kept saying closure.

53:27 Drew No, to get at, to get at those very, very, very delicate, painful feelings of abandonment takes a lot of work. And you need an intimate connection with another person to tolerate those feelings. You just won't get, your brain won't let you get at them just by yourself. You've instituted some behaviors that help you get near those sorts of things. But you really do need to do some work.

53:48 Adam All right. She, all right, well she's on the right track.

53:52 Drew She's on the right track. And it's interesting how, as she's created some change, the drive to go do the dancing goes away. She doesn't want it anymore.

53:59 Adam Doesn't want money, surely.

54:01 Caller Yes.

54:02 Adam You're 32.

54:03 Caller Yes.

54:04 Adam What's up with you? Oh, baby.

54:07 That's what I want to know. I left my husband about six months ago. I mean, six weeks ago. And since then, I've talked to and met about six or seven guys on the Internet.

54:22 Adam Uh-huh. Yeah.

54:24 Drew That's the speed of sound of the Internet.

54:27 Adam Yeah. Now, did you say your husband left six weeks ago?

54:32 I left him.

54:33 Adam You left him.

54:33 Drew Why? How come?

54:35 I'm sorry?

54:36 Adam Why did you leave him?

54:41 I don't know. There was a lot of different problems that we had at home.

54:44 Drew Oh, well, then that's clear.

54:45 Adam Oh, okay. Well, now we understand. Okay. Well, based on that information, let me say this in no uncertain terms. Yeah, okay.

54:52 Drew Why did you leave?

54:55 He had a brother living with us for a year. That was one of the things.

54:59 Drew Give us the big one. Come on.

55:01 Well, he has a daughter. I don't have kids and I can't have them. And I think part of me wasn't ready for the instant family.

55:08 Drew How long were you married?

55:10 Only three years.

55:11 Adam Okay. All right. And by the way, always a-

55:14 Caller I'm bipolar, so that might-

55:15 There we go.

55:17 Adam There we go. Always a bad sign when adults are squatting with adults. Family members, we talk to these people and they're always like, his cousin Earl and Hubie, they moved in with their two, Dottie and Fran. It's like, what? What? I wouldn't let- Listen, when my dad comes over, he has to wait outside.

55:41 Drew When your sister came back to this country, you got pissed off.

55:43 Adam She has to sit out in the yard. Yeah. I don't mind letting her in, but I'm scared she's not going to leave. So I don't want to take that chance. But what?

55:52 Drew Well, here's the other story. In this most simplistic sort of way to look at her problem, she got bipolar illness, grandiosity, and making sort of rapid impulsive changes, and getting involved in lots of relationships as part of your disease. Make sure you're being properly evaluated on the right medication, and maybe you'll make some better choices.

56:12 Adam Oh, yes, yes. And don't just have indiscriminate sex on the Internet, especially when you're not getting paid, right, ladies?

56:19 Drew You know, I got to...

56:22 Adam Right.

56:22 Drew I got to say, you know, at my website, I spend a lot of time in those chat rooms now. They are addicting.

56:27 Adam Oh, really?

56:28 Drew It's so easy. Do you ever spend time on chats?

56:30 Caller You know what? I have never done that.

56:32 Drew Once you do it a little while, it's like, whoa. It's such a clear sort of... I don't want to use the word intimate, but I understand now why women are upset about when guys carry on.

56:42 Adam You don't want to use intimate because you're wimeless?

56:44 Caller I don't think it's like the safest thing in the world to meet guys on the internet either.

56:47 Guest No, I have a friend, he's a guy, and he's got this bad habit of getting blowjobs from chicks that he meets on the internet.

56:54 Drew All right.

56:55 Guest And I just don't get that.

56:56 Drew Yahoo Personals, where they have a dating service, it has a whole bunch of rules and things that you need to follow in order to do it in a healthy way, and I want to try to expand on that.

57:04 Adam What part of the BJ aren't you getting?

57:06 Guest Well, it's just the meeting the person over the internet. I mean, how safe really is it when you meet somebody on the internet?

57:12 Adam How dangerous is a BJ is what I would say to you, ma'am.

57:18 Drew Yes, counselor, I think it's dangerous enough.

57:20 Adam I rest my case.

57:22 Guest There's psycho nutjobs out there.

57:24 Drew There you go.

57:24 Adam Well, I would worry about the biting.

57:27 Drew You don't know who the people are. You don't know.

57:29 Adam Listen, if this guy can turn on the computer and line himself up a BJ, I say more power to him. Elizabeth? Elizabeth?

57:38 Caller Hi.

57:38 Adam You're 19. What's up?

57:40 Caller I heard, I was listening to Loveline, I think it was like a few weeks ago, and I heard a guy call in, and he was talking with Dr. Drew, and he had mentioned that his wife still sleeps with a stuffed animal, and Drew expressed some really negativity, like there's some sort of taboo with women who sleep with him.

57:56 Drew No, I didn't say taboo.

57:58 Caller Okay.

57:58 Drew I said it's the Pinsky sign.

58:00 Caller What is it?

58:02 Drew Which is something I observed when I first started working in psychiatric hospitals, which was many, many years ago, and I've not been disappointed in this sign ever since, is that it is a sign, at least insofar as people get admitted to psychiatric hospital, of a certain kind of personality disorder.

58:19 Caller Okay. Because I do, I'm, you know, I'm 19 and I still do sleep with my stuffed animal.

58:23 Adam Yeah. Are you whacked down?

58:26 Caller No.

58:26 Drew Why don't you see if you can maybe transition away from it.

58:29 Caller Okay.

58:29 Drew See what that does for you. It's part of being separate and whole and independent. Okay.

58:37 Caller Is it the same thing for guys, too?

58:39 Adam No.

58:39 Drew Guys have stuff going on a lot worse. I've never seen it, actually.

58:42 Adam That's just gay.

58:43 Caller No. Well, I was just wondering, because my boyfriend still sleeps with his.

58:47 Adam He's what?

58:47 Caller He still sleeps with his animal.

58:48 Drew I've never seen that. I've never seen guys with it.

58:50 Caller Okay.

58:50 Adam He sleeps with his what? See, I want to hear, unless it's a stuffed beer keg, this guy's in a hell of a lot of trouble. What is it? Is it a?

59:03 Caller It's a dog.

59:03 Adam Tigger? No, it's a dog?

59:05 Caller Yeah.

59:07 Adam Yeah, a Tigger I could see. What kind of dog?

59:11 Caller Like a Snoopy dog, like a Beagle.

59:13 Adam Oh, very dangerous.

59:16 Drew Women usually have more than one too.

59:17 Adam Now, listen, here's the scary part. If he was mounting the thing and violating it, it'd be all right with it. That's all right. He has a few beers. All right, what are you going to do? But if he's just cuddling with it, that's trouble.

59:29 Drew It's just a hamper in the shape of a dog.

59:31 Adam Yeah, dog shape hamper, sure. I would just cut the tail off for easy access. Hey, Elizabeth. Yeah. What kind of guy is he?

59:44 Caller Well, I know his mom is like Satan. There's no better word for it.

59:49 Drew All right, so he's got some problems. That sort of supports my theory.

59:52 Caller Yeah, he's got some problems. And he knows he's got some problems.

59:56 Adam How are you guys doing?

59:57 Caller We're fine.

59:58 Adam Yeah.

59:59 Caller Yes.

1:00:00 Adam Yeah. You have a normal sex life and everything?

1:00:02 Guest Yeah.

1:00:04 Adam Does he do like Snoopy's horny? You know, like that kind of thing, you know, like where he holds it up and goes, Snoopy's horny.

1:00:11 Caller No.

1:00:12 Adam No? Because he doesn't talk through it?

1:00:15 Caller No.

1:00:15 Adam That's the only excuse for having the stuffed animal. Like, you know, he can talk through it, you know?

1:00:20 Caller Yeah.

1:00:20 Guest He, take your top off.

1:00:23 Caller No, no, he doesn't do that.

1:00:24 Adam No. Are you a big gal?

1:00:27 Caller No.

1:00:27 Adam No?

1:00:28 Caller Well, like big, like wide or big, like tall.

1:00:32 Adam I'll go both.

1:00:33 Caller Well, I'm 5'11. And I am 145 pounds.

1:00:39 Adam That ain't too big. Let me do the radio math here, though. 5'11, 145.

1:00:44 That's pretty normal.

1:00:45 Adam No, no. I got to do some radio math here.

1:00:48 Guest How big are your boobs?

1:00:49 Adam Five, eight and a half and 162.

1:00:51 Guest Well, that has a lot to do with the weight. If a chick has really-

1:00:53 Caller How big are my boobs? I am a 32B.

1:00:59 Adam So modest. You're fine. No, you got no problems there. Okay. Plenty of room on that bed for those stuffed animals.

1:01:09 Yeah.

1:01:09 Adam You ain't taking the whole thing up.

1:01:11 No.

1:01:11 Adam All right. You still living at home?

1:01:13 Caller I'm in college. I'm in college out of state, but I'm home right now for Christmas.

1:01:19 Adam All right. See if you can get this guy, you can wean him off Snoopy.

1:01:24 Drew Oh, yeah. I bet you she can get off her animals too.

1:01:28 Caller So what if you sleep with stuffed animals just sometimes?

1:01:32 Guest Yeah. I sleep with my duck-billed platypus when I'm not sleeping with my boyfriend, and sometimes I sleep with my pillow. Yeah.

1:01:38 Caller I hold my pillow all night long. It's like something for me to hold because I always sleep alone, so unless I'm in Denver, I don't sleep alone there.

1:01:44 Guest So what's going on in Denver?

1:01:47 Caller I'm dating Rover from Rover Radio in Denver.

1:01:49 Adam Rover from Rover Radio?

1:01:51 Caller 96th the Peak. So I don't sleep alone when I'm there.

1:01:54 Adam What's Rover do?

1:01:55 Caller He's got a radio show on 96th the Peak, Rover Radio.

1:01:58 Guest He's the blue haired boy.

1:02:00 Adam He's beautiful. Why don't you get him out here?

1:02:04 Caller I'm trying. He's really good. He's got a great show.

1:02:07 Adam All right.

1:02:07 Caller It's dirty nasty. I can talk dirty nasty stuff on a show. It's fun.

1:02:11 Adam You're so funny. But you're bi too, right?

1:02:14 Caller Yes, I am.

1:02:15 Adam And so you have sex with women while he's over there in Denver?

1:02:17 Caller I kind of have a girlfriend right now.

1:02:20 Adam I see.

1:02:20 Caller I can't mention her name. She'll get in trouble. Really?

1:02:24 Adam Me with her boyfriend?

1:02:25 Guest She's got man problems.

1:02:27 Caller Yeah, I won't say anymore. I can't.

1:02:30 Adam Everyone's just bi, right?

1:02:31 Caller He's already mad at me, huh?

1:02:33 Adam Everyone's bi now, right?

1:02:34 Caller Not everyone. Well, yeah, everyone.

1:02:36 Adam Jesus Christ. And you know what?

1:02:37 Guest It's just more open now is all.

1:02:39 Adam I know, but I don't think it will ever catch on with guys.

1:02:41 Caller I've always been, since I was five years old, I thought there was something wrong with me. I'm like, oh my God, my mom's going to be mad at me.

1:02:48 Adam You've always been that way, huh?

1:02:50 Guest Yeah, I used to hide.

1:02:51 Adam Katie?

1:02:51 Guest Yeah.

1:02:52 Adam You're 16?

1:02:53 Guest Yeah.

1:02:55 Guest Raylene, what's the other one's name? Chandler? Yeah. You guys sound really cute.

1:03:02 Guest Thank you.

1:03:02 Guest You're right. And another thing, bisexuals rock.

1:03:06 Guest Oh, thank you.

1:03:07 Caller She's so cute.

1:03:08 Guest How old are you? 16. Oh, you rock. Okay.

1:03:12 Adam What's going on there?

1:03:13 Guest Underage. Yeah. Adam, this is sort of directed to you.

1:03:18 Adam All right.

1:03:19 Guest I was running if you know what purple weed was.

1:03:22 Adam Purple weed?

1:03:23 Guest Yeah, because like my friend had some and she smoked some, and she got really sick and she couldn't breathe. And it was like, she said there was purple hair in it.

1:03:30 Caller She was probably allergic to it.

1:03:32 Adam Well, it's just, you know, powerful high octane weed.

1:03:35 Drew Was it actually purple?

1:03:37 Guest Well, there was like little hair. It looked like little hairs that were purple in it.

1:03:40 Drew Hairs that were purple.

1:03:41 Guest Then she was probably allergic to it if it wasn't like dyed that color from some obnoxious chemical.

1:03:47 Adam No, weed, real high octane stuff has those weird hairs on it. Know what I'm talking about?

1:03:53 Drew No.

1:03:53 Adam You know, you get high times, don't you?

1:03:55 Guest Well, it was just the cannabis cup and they do have certain kind that's grown and like they have all different kinds. But anyways, there's some that has purple hairs.

1:04:04 Drew Cannabis what?

1:04:05 Guest The cannabis cup over in Amsterdam. They have like a big judging of all the, that was my blowout and I'm done. But anyways, they've got these, it's bud with purple hairs. But it shouldn't really get you sick like that. Oh yeah.

1:04:17 Guest All right.

1:04:18 Drew There you go.

1:04:19 Caller I want to see some of that.

1:04:20 Adam Hey, Katie.

1:04:21 Guest Yeah. I have a second question though.

1:04:23 Adam All right. Hey, you know what? Next time, instead of smoking it, she should enter it in the cannabis cup. Take home a nice blue ribbon for folks put up on the mail.

1:04:33 Guest Yeah.

1:04:34 Adam Finally, something to cheer about.

1:04:35 Guest Yeah.

1:04:36 Adam All right, Katie.

1:04:36 Guest Okay. My second one was that I really like my best friend, but I don't think she likes me that much.

1:04:43 Adam Right.

1:04:43 Drew I mean, like, like?

1:04:44 Guest I mean, like, because we hang out a lot, and she likes a girl, and she calls her all the time and stuff, but I really, really like her.

1:04:52 Drew So Katie, you're bisexual?

1:04:53 Caller Yeah, I am.

1:04:55 Adam You want to do some gambling?

1:04:56 Guest Oh, yeah.

1:04:56 Adam No, I don't got time.

1:04:57 Guest Do you know if your friend is bisexual?

1:04:59 Guest Yeah, she is.

1:04:59 Guest She is.

1:05:00 Adam Katie, what's up with you? Where's your dad?

1:05:02 Guest My dad's home.

1:05:03 Adam Home where?

1:05:05 Guest At my house.

1:05:06 Adam Really?

1:05:07 Guest Yes. I have a good relationship and all that. I've never been abandoned by anyone, and I've never been sexually abused or anything like that.

1:05:13 Adam Where'd you get that voice?

1:05:15 Drew He never smacked you around?

1:05:16 Adam Something's up.

1:05:16 Drew She's 16.

1:05:17 Adam No.

1:05:18 Drew No, no, no. She got a voice. Let's go over this a little bit. Let me think about this here. Your parents are together still?

1:05:25 Guest Yep.

1:05:26 Adam What's your dad doing for a living?

1:05:28 Guest He's a judge.

1:05:29 Guest Aha! Really?

1:05:32 Drew Maybe you're lesbian, Katie. Is that possible?

1:05:36 Guest Very likely, maybe, yeah. Do you like boys at all? I like staring at them, but I don't have an interest to be with them.

1:05:44 Drew She's a lesbian? Yeah.

1:05:46 Adam That's how I am.

1:05:47 Drew You rock. Was dad rough or aggressive or anything with you when you were growing up? No. Your mom's okay?

1:05:54 Guest Yeah.

1:05:54 Drew They both work?

1:05:56 Guest Yeah.

1:05:56 Drew They both work? They both were out of the house when you were growing up the whole time?

1:05:59 Guest Yeah. My dad's a workaholic.

1:06:01 Adam Yeah. He ever hit you with that gavel?

1:06:04 Guest No. No?

1:06:05 Adam Never took the robe and put it over your head when you were little?

1:06:08 Drew They both out of the home when you were growing up?

1:06:10 Guest No. My mom was always there.

1:06:11 Drew She was always there.

1:06:12 Adam All right. Katie, you may be an actual lesbian.

1:06:16 Drew Bonafide.

1:06:17 Adam Yeah. Not created in the lab.

1:06:19 Yeah.

1:06:21 Adam What I mean by created in the lab is dad splits early, neighbor comes over and molests them, and magically everyone's a lesbian now. But that's more created lesbian.

1:06:32 Caller I've never been molested. I'm pretty much dead.

1:06:34 Adam Now your dad died when you were young.

1:06:36 Caller Yeah. I guess that counts, huh?

1:06:37 Adam That helps.

1:06:38 Drew By the way, child and child molestation is part of the deal. Another eight-year-old or the ten-year-old does sexually directed things.

1:06:44 Caller Is that molestation? I guess it was, huh?

1:06:45 Drew That's one of the most common kinds of molestation.

1:06:47 Adam Well, what do you have, Raylene?

1:06:49 Caller What?

1:06:49 Adam What happened when you were five or eight?

1:06:51 Caller Well, both Chandler and I, when we were little, we used to mess around with girls in our bath tubs and closets.

1:06:54 Guest But all girls, all girls like-

1:06:56 Drew Explore is normal.

1:06:59 Guest Yeah, but mine just- I found dirty magazines and pornos and went a little farther, but it's not like- it was a mutual thing.

1:07:07 Drew It seemed mutual.

1:07:08 Guest But we were watching their parents through the door and we'd go in the room and take each other's clothes off and simulate and things just happen.

1:07:17 Drew Well, that's what creates-

1:07:18 Guest I've just been really sexual all my life. I can't help it.

1:07:21 Drew No, no, no. When you're exposed to-

1:07:23 Caller Yeah, the girl that started with me, she started it, but I didn't back off.

1:07:26 Drew When you're exposed to sexual material. Yeah, but a kid doesn't know to back off. He just keeps going to go with it just like any other interaction. When you're exposed to sexual material, kids then usually are enticed to exploring that, and their brain hasn't developed the point to be able to manage what all that is yet. So it becomes something that later on becomes a source of a good deal of energy.

1:07:46 Adam Let me ask Rick a good question here. Rick has one. Rick?

1:07:50 Caller Hey, how's it going?

1:07:51 Adam Good. You're 16?

1:07:52 Caller Yeah.

1:07:54 Caller I love you guys. I really do. I love. I sit up till 3 a.m. every night listening to your show Sunday through Thursday. Wow.

1:08:02 Adam Thanks. Where are you at?

1:08:04 Caller I'm in Cincinnati.

1:08:05 Adam Great.

1:08:06 Caller Yeah. And Dr. Drew, I admire you so much. Thanks Rick. I wish I could go through medical school for, for, you know, 11, 10 or 11 years.

1:08:14 Drew You can. You're 16. You got the whole thing ahead of you.

1:08:17 Caller I know.

1:08:18 Caller But I'm into art. My whole family is in the medical profession. But I got you guys.

1:08:22 Drew That talks you out of it.

1:08:25 Caller Yeah, they sort of explained about how horrible it was.

1:08:28 Drew Yeah, it's awful now.

1:08:29 Caller Yeah.

1:08:30 Adam Hey, Rick.

1:08:30 Caller Yeah.

1:08:31 Adam I want to talk about oral sex for a second because I read your question.

1:08:34 Caller Oh, really?

1:08:35 Adam And I'm translating it into oral sex. It says since you're 98% lesbian, what a girl's like.

1:08:43 Caller I want them to explain it because they're pros.

1:08:45 Adam Yeah. Good. Good call. Hold on. Orally. What's the question now? What is the best technique orally or even manually?

1:08:58 Caller Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.

1:08:59 Adam For stimulating one.

1:09:01 Caller After the break.

1:09:02 Adam Oh. Once every 19 months, Drue gets a ray, I was going to say, of good radio. He thinks, wait a minute, instead of reading, eating popcorn, and banging into my mic with my coffee mug, we can actually do some good radio. That's good, Drew. That's a good thought. No, you're right. All right. I'll tell you what we're going to do. You guys have eaten more females than most women will in a lifetime, right? Mm-hmm. I mean, you guys have been around plenty of Tang, right?

1:09:44 Drew Wait, well, that's more than more soccer team males will in a lifetime.

1:09:46 Adam Right, right?

1:09:47 Guest Yeah.

1:09:48 Adam Right. I mean, combined, if we took the minutes that you guys have been down there together and I combined it, it'd be like six months, continuously.

1:09:57 Caller It probably would longer, yeah.

1:09:59 Adam 10 minutes here, half hour there, 25 minutes here.

1:10:02 Guest It's like cereal. Right, right.

1:10:04 Adam So, and you know as a woman what women like, and you've had it done to you, and you've performed on women's, because I want to get to the bottom of this. See, here's my technique.

1:10:17 Guest You just have to enjoy it.

1:10:18 Adam Yeah. You have to eat. No, no, no. I don't even want to get, I don't want to hear any answers yet. Don't give me any emotional crap about enjoying it or living in the moment. I want physical, physical technique, all right? All right. Well, let's see. I'm going to get some paper towels and moisten them so we have something to practice on. We'll be back after this.

1:10:41 Drew We about to get funky, yo.

1:10:44 Caller This is Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. We'll be right back.

1:11:17 Adam There's the loveline of Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Raylene and Chandler are both here tonight, both in the adult film industry, well, with the Vivid videos, and you can check them out on vividvideo.com. Raylene has done such films as sweet as they come in 69 hours. Chandler has done Devil's Black Jack and of course, the violation of Chandler with the very controversial enol scene. So when we left off, we're about to talk to our two experts who are bisexual at least, about what women want orally. What is it? What is the technique? You've given it, you've received it, what have we got there?

1:12:12 Caller Just eat it like you like it. Look, feel for the hard spot. Use your fingers.

1:12:20 Guest It's different with all girls, but you got to use your tongue and the fingers at the same time.

1:12:24 Adam You got to use your what?

1:12:26 Guest Tongue and the fingers at the same time.

1:12:27 Adam Oh really? What do you do with the fingers?

1:12:30 Caller Insertion.

1:12:31 Adam Oh insertion.

1:12:31 Caller Upward thrust.

1:12:33 Guest Yeah, there's a juice spot up there.

1:12:35 Caller Yeah, there's a juice spot in there. You got to get that and hold on to it.

1:12:38 Adam Fingers or finger?

1:12:40 Caller However she likes. Feels good to her.

1:12:43 Adam All right, so let's say you take the-

1:12:45 Caller Your whole hand. Sometimes that's pretty good too.

1:12:47 Adam You take the one finger, but it's hard to lick when you got your hand right down there on your chin.

1:12:54 Guest You have to bend your wrist.

1:12:55 Caller Yeah.

1:12:56 Adam Like that? Uh-huh. Should she be lying down or standing up?

1:13:03 Guest Or bent over, it doesn't matter.

1:13:04 Caller Yeah.

1:13:05 Adam Bent over?

1:13:06 Guest Yeah.

1:13:07 Caller Whatever position you can get her into.

1:13:08 Guest What do you mean bent over?

1:13:09 Adam Yeah, but then I don't like those positions where your nose goes into the ass.

1:13:13 Caller Why not?

1:13:14 Guest You don't like that?

1:13:15 Adam No, those are my positions I try to stay away from. The nose in the ass position, you know? That's not my cup of tea. I like to work the nose around the other side, you know? But you put, so you're saying, do the hands, do the digits and do the tongue.

1:13:31 Guest Yeah.

1:13:32 Adam And now what about pace? Fast pace, slow?

1:13:35 Guest You both start off slow and you work it up and tease a little bit.

1:13:41 Adam Tease, huh?

1:13:41 Guest Yeah. Prolonging it works well.

1:13:44 Caller Most of the time you can't stay in one kind of mode anyway. You kind of go back and forth through different.

1:13:49 Guest You can't always stay on the clip though, because then it's going to end real quick. And if you really enjoy it, you're going to.

1:13:54 Adam Right.

1:13:55 Guest Prolong it.

1:13:55 Adam And the clit is in the vagina?

1:13:59 Caller It's on top.

1:14:00 Adam It's on top? Like around here? No, it's lower?

1:14:04 Caller You know where it is.

1:14:05 Guest It's the middle hard spot.

1:14:07 Caller It's the hard spot.

1:14:08 Adam Oh, it gets hard, really?

1:14:09 Caller It's the spot that when you touch it, it makes you jump.

1:14:11 Adam Now where is, I mean, if the vagina starts.

1:14:15 Drew Get the book.

1:14:16 Adam I don't like to get the book, Drew, because it turns into a medical thing, and I don't like it. I want it to be a sexual thing. If, let's just say, let's say there's no hair down there. Okay?

1:14:28 Caller Okay.

1:14:28 Adam And you get to the, and you start, you start going, let's say there's no hair down there, and you start going down your belly, from your belly button till you get.

1:14:37 Guest It's the first thing you come to.

1:14:39 Caller It's the first little lumpy thing.

1:14:40 Adam And then you make a right? No, you just stay there?

1:14:43 Caller You just stay there and eventually lift up the area.

1:14:46 Adam All right, but how far down, how far down on the average would you say it is from the top of the vagina when it begins? It's that much, no, it's further down than that.

1:14:56 Guest A quarter of an inch.

1:14:57 Adam Now here's what, a quarter inch?

1:14:58 Guest Yeah, I'm good.

1:14:59 Guest I know these things.

1:15:00 Adam I've been in the wrong place the entire time.

1:15:02 Guest You have.

1:15:02 Adam Now wait a minute, here's, all right.

1:15:04 Guest Where are you going?

1:15:05 Adam I'm drawing the legs. I'm drawing the legs, right?

1:15:08 Guest Yeah.

1:15:08 Adam There's the belly button.

1:15:09 Guest Yeah, and see the top of the little point right there?

1:15:12 Caller Look at that.

1:15:14 Guest See, that's where the point is.

1:15:15 Adam I just want to draw the big boobs. All right. Now here's, hold on, hold on.

1:15:19 Guest What?

1:15:20 Adam Here's the vagina. Draw on the vagina.

1:15:21 Guest That's a long vagina.

1:15:23 Adam Yes, it is.

1:15:23 Guest That's an interesting vagina. You're not an artist are you?

1:15:26 Adam There's the vagina, right? There's where it starts. There's a very top part there.

1:15:30 Guest There's a little tiny little thing.

1:15:31 Adam How far down from there?

1:15:33 Guest It's right there.

1:15:33 Adam Quarter inch? Quarter of an inch. This much?

1:15:36 Drew Less.

1:15:37 Adam Less?

1:15:37 Guest Yeah.

1:15:38 Adam From there?

1:15:38 Guest Yeah.

1:15:39 Adam Son of a bitch. You're serious?

1:15:41 Guest Yeah. It's like a little button.

1:15:42 Adam You just push it. I got to apologize to some ladies. A lot of the ladies. I really do. You sure it's not down here around the midway point?

1:15:52 Guest No.

1:15:54 Adam It's all the way up that high?

1:15:55 Caller It's like right before it starts to slope underneath.

1:15:58 Drew Well, wait a minute.

1:15:59 Adam Get the picture. Listen, the way do you see this picture of this vagina, I think I'm going to be proven right. It's been a total indication for me.

1:16:05 Guest The girls you were ever with are really stupid for not pointing it out, too.

1:16:08 Adam Yeah, they should have said something. Well, most of them are Vietnamese hokas. They couldn't...

1:16:13 Caller Yeah, girls that fake them, I know.

1:16:14 Guest Girls that fake orgasms are really stupid, too.

1:16:16 Caller I always point them in the right direction.

1:16:18 Guest You have to, because what's the point of having sex if you're not going to get off?

1:16:21 Adam Exactly. All right. Let's talk to... Okay. So then stick around the clitoris, right? What about the areas around the clitoris?

1:16:27 Guest Well, some girls don't like it too much right there because it's just too much to handle. So you got to figure out what they want and work it gently. And if she wants more, go more, if she likes it.

1:16:37 Adam Move it around a little bit?

1:16:38 Guest Yeah. Yeah. Kind of.

1:16:39 Caller Yeah. Sometimes if you lick under the ear...

1:16:42 Adam All right. Well, she's lying on her back there, Drew, in this picture. But here's what I'm saying. I'm saying right where the skin... Right where it first starts to head north and south at the top. You know what I'm saying? Well, I mean, yeah, but she's a lot... No, no. Wait a minute.

1:16:58 Guest Look. See how the skin... It goes up to right about there. You can rub all up here and there because the actual...

1:17:04 Adam Wait a minute.

1:17:04 Guest This is...

1:17:05 Caller And even right underneath, like right here sometimes.

1:17:09 Adam Right where? Underneath the opening? Yeah. What do you do under the opening?

1:17:14 Caller You just lick all the way up.

1:17:16 Adam With your tongue?

1:17:17 Caller Yeah.

1:17:17 Adam And what about the opening?

1:17:18 Guest When I found that guy's like right under the balls too.

1:17:20 Adam You put your tongue in the opening?

1:17:22 Caller Yeah.

1:17:22 Adam Really?

1:17:23 Caller Yeah.

1:17:23 Adam All right. All right. So tongue in the opening, tongue underneath, and then the clitoris...

1:17:29 Caller You just go from the bottom all the way up and down and up. And see, that feels really good when you do that.

1:17:34 Adam Here's what I'm saying, though. I'm saying the skin starts parting up here. I'm saying it's an inch and a half. That's not a quarter inch. Come on, seriously. I won't look, but when you run to the bathroom and look on yourself, would you?

1:17:44 Guest I can tell you.

1:17:46 Adam I'd prefer you look.

1:17:48 Guest Give me... Do you have a ruler or some kind of measurement?

1:17:51 Adam I will show you what distance everything is. I was an ex-carpenter.

1:17:55 Guest Okay. With my fingernails, it's like that much.

1:17:58 Adam That much from when the skin just breaks at the top?

1:18:00 Guest Right.

1:18:01 Adam I got to look into this.

1:18:03 Guest You need help.

1:18:04 Adam Don't you have to check it out? Everything I thought was true is a lie.

1:18:06 Caller Are you counting the bottom of it or are you starting from the top where it starts, right?

1:18:12 Adam It starts and goes somewhere? I thought the gluteus was just like a little pea-sized thing.

1:18:16 Caller No, it's like about this long.

1:18:18 Adam How long?

1:18:19 Caller It's like an inch long. Or maybe shorter, depending on how big or small the girl's punani is.

1:18:26 Adam Wow. All right. I really got to start. I got to start concentrating. No more talking when I'm down there. That's my problem. I'm always chatting.

1:18:34 Guest You need to stop. See if your mouth was full, you wouldn't have any room to talk.

1:18:37 Adam Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1:18:40 Guest That's what I do.

1:18:41 Caller It's good sometimes too.

1:18:43 Adam Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1:18:44 Guest Yeah.

1:18:44 Guest All right.

1:18:46 Adam I got to work. But it's true that a woman knows what a woman likes more, right?

1:18:52 Caller Absolutely.

1:18:52 Guest All right. Okay.

1:18:54 Adam Ken?

1:18:55 Caller Yes.

1:18:57 Caller Blah, blah, blah, blah.

1:19:00 Adam You're 28.

1:19:01 Caller Yes, sir.

1:19:02 Adam What's up?

1:19:03 Caller Actually, I got a couple of questions in one, but it all comes down to one thing. The question I have is, I was in a serious relationship with a woman for about a year, and during that year, she introduced me to anal stimulation, inserting things, and so forth.

1:19:22 Adam Raylene, is that you?

1:19:23 Caller I'm sorry?

1:19:24 Adam Is that your MO?

1:19:25 Caller No, I like it.

1:19:27 Caller You like to do it to a man?

1:19:29 Caller No, no, no. I don't like to do it to a man.

1:19:30 Guest Eww. No, she loves to have things plowed up in there. Oh, really? Plowed. Oh, my God.

1:19:35 Caller Gently thrusted.

1:19:36 Guest Gently thrusted. Oh, my God.

1:19:38 Adam Hey, hold on, Ken. Did they give you a little extra, a little hands-for-this-duty pay? Duty pay. You know what I mean when you're doing a porn movie? I mean, you get a little bump?

1:19:49 Guest Oh, yeah.

1:19:50 Guest Definitely.

1:19:50 Adam With a bump?

1:19:51 Guest Yeah.

1:19:51 Adam And what do you get? I mean, what?

1:19:53 Guest Whatever you want.

1:19:54 Adam No, I know what I mean is you guys, you know, you never talk about money, but seriously, if you're doing a movie and the director pulls you aside and goes, listen, we got to get some anal in here. I know it wasn't part of the original plan, but we need some anal.

1:20:07 Guest If he really needs it, you ask for more money.

1:20:09 Adam And is that-

1:20:10 Guest Absolutely. A lot more money. The more he needs it, the more money you ask for.

1:20:13 Adam Is that two grand? Is that a thousand bucks?

1:20:16 Guest It's depending on-

1:20:17 Adam Five grand? I mean, what do you think?

1:20:18 Guest It's depending on what you want for it. Some girls-

1:20:21 Adam What's the average anal run?

1:20:22 Caller I would say about 1,500.

1:20:24 Adam About 1,500?

1:20:25 Guest Yeah. For the good girls. Some of them are really cheap and doesn't-

1:20:28 Adam What if your Johnson's my size? More like just 50 bucks, 75?

1:20:32 Guest I don't know. I haven't seen your size.

1:20:34 Adam I wouldn't hurt you. Ken?

1:20:36 Caller Yeah.

1:20:37 Adam All right. So now you like stuff in you? Well, yeah.

1:20:40 Caller Well, I wouldn't say that I really enjoyed, but it was something that I enjoyed with her. It was something that felt good, something I enjoyed with her.

1:20:47 Adam What did she do to you?

1:20:49 Caller Well, I've always been open to all kinds of different things, and she one day, we had like a jelly dung that I would use on her while I was performing oral on her, and one day she got the idea to use it on me. So.

1:21:03 Adam Jelly dung?

1:21:04 Caller Yeah, one of the, you know.

1:21:06 Guest They're the only ones I like in mine.

1:21:08 Adam What is the jelly dung?

1:21:10 Guest Actually, it feels really nice. It's like this jelly stuff instead of the really hard rubber. It feels a lot softer. Very flexible.

1:21:16 Adam Can you get them at Knott's Berry Farm?

1:21:18 Guest Yeah, yeah. I'm sure they sell them in all different colors there.

1:21:20 Adam They have a whole sampler.

1:21:21 Guest Kids love them.

1:21:22 Adam Have a whole sampler pack you can get for the kids. Yeah, kids shouldn't be putting a full-size dildo in them, Drew.

1:21:27 Guest Come on.

1:21:28 Adam You start off with the sampler pack, you work your way up. So it's very soft.

1:21:33 Guest Yeah.

1:21:34 Adam It has to have some rigidity, otherwise it's just going to taco when you try to push it up you, right?

1:21:37 Guest Yeah, but if you're going to have it in your butt, rigid is not good.

1:21:41 Adam I see. Yeah, rigid hurts. Drew, write that down. All right, so Ken, you got the jelly sausage in the butt, right?

1:21:50 Guest Right, right.

1:21:50 Caller And it's something that I grew to enjoy with her, and it's something we started doing regularly. She broke up with me about four months ago, and I haven't seen anybody else since or anything. One thing that she did very well, probably the best I've ever had, was she was very good on top. And since we've broken up, whenever I masturbate to actually get myself in the mood, I have to imagine her on top of me, and...

1:22:23 Drew Where are we going with this?

1:22:24 Caller Well, then I start to use the dung on myself. When I have to, I use it on myself.

1:22:31 Adam Well, hold on, though. You're not on your back, are you?

1:22:33 Caller No, I'm usually, like, in a position straddling.

1:22:36 Adam Are you standing up?

1:22:37 Caller No, I'm, like, on my knees, straddling like I was on, like she was on top of me. I'm kind of, like, straddling, like...

1:22:44 Adam Oh, no, well, wait a minute. Hold on.

1:22:46 Caller It's resting on the floor and I'm straddling it.

1:22:49 Adam Oh, oh, you're... Yeah, I see. Does it come with a... You spent the extra eight bucks, got the optional base.

1:22:55 Caller Well, actually...

1:22:55 Adam The suction base? The stand? It's really a display stand. It's not meant to be mounted. It's just a decorative thing.

1:23:02 Caller Well, the base kind of...

1:23:03 Adam Franklin Mint, I think, puts it out. Yeah. John Wayne signed it, I think.

1:23:08 Caller The question I have is...

1:23:09 Adam There's only 300 examples issued. And once they stop production, they're breaking all the mold. So it will be a collector's item. Yes, I'm sorry, Ken. Go ahead.

1:23:18 Caller Oh, that's okay. So the question I have is, is this something that I'm... I've talked to a couple of close friends about this, of course, because I'm not going to go around telling anybody.

1:23:29 Drew Right.

1:23:29 Adam You're very discreet.

1:23:30 Guest We understand that.

1:23:31 Caller Some of my friends told me that that's a sign of having homosexual tendencies.

1:23:36 Drew No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no.

1:23:39 Guest You've just found another way to stimulate yourself.

1:23:42 Adam Here's the problem. And it's quite, frankly, what I'm worried about sexually, too, is getting the bar raised a little too high, and then the party ends. You know what I mean? This chick comes over. She brings the big jelly doughnuts. She starts putting that up the anus. Everything's great. She's on top. She's going nuts. Then you break up. Now, what do you got?

1:24:02 Caller Now she's got ammo.

1:24:03 Adam Yeah, and she's got... And you got ammo in your ass, and you're used to this certain level of sexuality, and there's no way you're going to find that. So now fast forward three weeks. You're on the floor. You're sitting on top of this thing. You're crying. You've licked your finger, and you're rubbing your nipple. There's a picture of your mom out. Oh, God.

1:24:26 Caller Why'd you have to go there?

1:24:27 Adam It's true. I know how this guy operates now. Oh, boy. That's why. For me, it's just straight missionary. We're going to take a little break, and we'll come back. We'll get to the bottom of the rest of this. We're on Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew over there. Raylene and Chandler are both here tonight. They're representing the adult film industry, both Vivid Gals and you can see them if you log on to the vividvideo.com. I don't know how much it is a month, but it's a pittance. For the price of one hooker a month, you could tune into this. That's the way I like to look at things. All right, so where the hell were we? Getting back to the phones. Tim?

1:25:51 Caller Yes.

1:25:51 Adam You're 30.

1:25:52 Caller What's up? I'm just like Sam, really nervous, so I just want to go through this slowly if that's okay. I haven't had sex in over three years. I'm looking to get back into it, and I want to film it primarily for training purposes, but I'm going to turn to Drew to find out if that's a euphemism for something more deep.

1:26:13 Drew We're already reaching for our wallets.

1:26:15 Adam What kind of sex?

1:26:17 Caller Straight, normal, nothing outlandish.

1:26:19 Guest Why haven't you had sex for three years?

1:26:24 Adam Camera's broken.

1:26:25 Caller I stopped having sex just to have sex, and I set my sights on upper echelon females like yourselves. I've had a few nibbles, but in essence, most of the girls I've asked have said no.

1:26:37 Drew Tim, it sounds like a robot.

1:26:40 Adam Yeah. Hey, Tim.

1:26:41 Drew What's going on?

1:26:42 Adam You're like Jaime from Get Smart. What's up with you, brother? What do you mean? Well, you're like, I haven't had sex in three years. I decided to set my sights on upper echelon women.

1:26:54 Drew Affirmative.

1:26:56 Adam I've had a few nibbles. For the most part, it was a negative experience. I intend on filming my experiences so that I may learn. I will use my- That's right, 2001. I will use this sex video as a training template.

1:27:14 Guest Who are you training?

1:27:16 Caller Myself.

1:27:17 Guest In what?

1:27:19 Caller I think I have some issues and I just want to find out if I'm-

1:27:21 Drew The issues are about your ability to be close to people, uncomfortable around people. It's not about some mechanical issue.

1:27:27 Adam What's up? Why can't you connect with someone, Tim?

1:27:30 Caller I don't know.

1:27:31 Drew Well, that's the issue.

1:27:32 Adam Well, what happened in your childhood?

1:27:34 Drew He sounds like Jim. Remember Jim?

1:27:36 Adam Jim, the guy who had sex with his dog?

1:27:38 Drew Did he sound like Jim?

1:27:38 Adam Did you ever have sex with your dog, Tim?

1:27:40 Caller I never had a dog.

1:27:41 Guest Did you have sex with any farm animals?

1:27:43 Caller No, not that I know of.

1:27:47 Adam He's screwing around.

1:27:47 Caller He's screwing animals in your sleep? That whole sleepwalking concept.

1:27:50 Adam What do you mean not that you know of?

1:27:52 Caller No, I mean no.

1:27:53 Adam Yeah, I know. You just got a sense of humor. I understand. Listen, if someone said to me, you ever banged any farm animals? I wouldn't give them a straight answer. No.

1:28:04 Caller There's one other question that I have. It's hard to just go up to great-looking girls and try and propose this. I'm wondering, I also want to consider maybe hiring out.

1:28:15 Drew What is up, Jim?

1:28:16 Adam Hey, Tim, here's the real question. Forget about you bagging a good-looking woman. The real question is why you're 30 years old. How come you can't establish a connection?

1:28:28 Drew A relationship.

1:28:29 Adam With somebody?

1:28:32 Caller I can't answer that.

1:28:33 Adam Okay. Well, what happened to you in your childhood?

1:28:37 Caller I mean, that encompasses a lot of years, Adam.

1:28:41 Adam Well, here's my question. Were you always a loner? Did you have a lot of friends? Did your parents do any ritualistic torture to you or anything like that?

1:28:49 Caller Pretty normal. There are some issues that I know of and that is, I do have some intensity issues. I had a hard time making a connection with my mother. We fought a lot.

1:28:58 Adam Do you have any male friends?

1:28:59 Drew Yes.

1:29:00 Adam Do you have some guys you consider to be your good buddies? Yeah, sure. You're working and everything's working out?

1:29:07 Caller All that's really good.

1:29:08 Drew You've never had major depressions or psychiatric problems?

1:29:12 Caller I'm sorry?

1:29:13 Drew Medication and psychiatric problems?

1:29:14 Caller None at all.

1:29:15 Adam Hey, Tim. So you got a good job, right?

1:29:18 Caller It's okay.

1:29:19 Adam All right. If I were you, I would focus a little less on buying a good-looking prostitute and filming it and doing all that stuff. And I get a little therapy. Read a book. You know what I mean? Try to sort of re-join life. You know what I'm saying? That's where your time should be spent.

1:29:40 Caller I would like to say one thing. I have learned a lot by listening to you guys.

1:29:43 Adam Well, thanks.

1:29:44 Caller I mean that sincerely.

1:29:45 Drew Go check out. There's a book called The Search for the Real Self by a guy named Masterson. Yeah. The Search for the Real Self. Maybe that will help you get some insight into how some of these issues may be playing out.

1:29:56 Adam Yeah, because you guys wouldn't go out with this team. It would be too creepy, right?

1:30:00 Caller Right.

1:30:01 Adam I mean, you women, I know you guys, you don't like guys too much.

1:30:05 Caller Well, I know. I love...

1:30:06 Adam You love guys.

1:30:07 Caller Yeah, sure.

1:30:08 Adam You like women a lot too. But guys are always trying to figure out a way to sort of trick women into being attracted to them.

1:30:16 Caller That's what this guy kind of sounds like.

1:30:18 Adam Yeah, and women are more intuitive. I mean, they're like a dog, they can smell it on you. I mean, you'd smell this guy coming across the bar.

1:30:26 Caller Totally. Why can't people be just like normal and be like, hey, what's up?

1:30:29 Drew Guys want to think like a game hunter or something.

1:30:31 Adam Right.

1:30:31 Drew They're going to bag the rhino or something.

1:30:34 Adam Right. He's going to get some essence from a pregnant woman and rub it on him.

1:30:39 Drew Right.

1:30:40 Adam You know, when she was pregnant, yeah, I got hold of a chick's tampon. So what I could do is I rubbed that on my face for camouflage. And then what I do is I take a strawberry dacquerie and I dump it over my head. So she likes the scent of that. And then I put a medallion on and I come creeping up and I hide behind the bar stool and I surprise them while they're on their way to the bathroom. It's like, I swear to God if they spend all their time trying to trick women into liking them instead of just doing the stuff that's going to get women to like them, which is doing their job, taking care of business, working out, whatever it is, they're always trying to figure out a way to trick women and like him.

1:31:24 Caller I'm keeping it real, yeah.

1:31:26 Adam This Tim is sitting here strategizing instead of just participating in life, right? Yeah, I know what you chicks like. I don't do it, but I know what you like. Ferris?

1:31:37 Caller Yeah.

1:31:37 Adam You're 20.

1:31:38 Caller Yeah, what's up? Hey, I have a question for Dr. Drew.

1:31:41 Guest Yeah.

1:31:42 Caller I'm a 20-year-old gay male, and I was just wondering what the risks are for giving oral sex to a guy who's HIV positive.

1:31:52 Drew You mean per episode what the probability of you being infected is?

1:31:56 Guest Yeah.

1:31:57 Drew No such number. No such number. How could you ever study that? What would you have to go out there and nobody's going to expose themselves in that way?

1:32:05 Adam Well, you put A in the paper. We're looking for guys to blow guys with the HIV.

1:32:09 Caller No. I mean, if I'm with somebody and they don't even know that they're infected, and I go down on them, what are the risks that I could become infected too?

1:32:17 Drew They are substantial.

1:32:20 Caller Even if he doesn't, even if nothing, even if I don't like swallow or take in the mouth or anything?

1:32:26 Drew It's obviously less than, substantially less.

1:32:29 Caller Okay.

1:32:29 Drew But the semen is where most of the virus is, and it's more apt to penetrate in the esophagus.

1:32:37 Caller Okay.

1:32:37 Drew So mouth is not a particularly hospitable environment, but then again, you may have some bleeding gum or something like that.

1:32:43 Caller Oh, and also, Adam, I just want to let you know, if you ever decide to become gay, I'll be happy to be your bottom boy.

1:32:50 Adam I'm trying, man.

1:32:51 Caller Okay.

1:32:52 Adam I've been trying to talk my penis into it for going on 15, hold on, what's it?

1:32:57 Drew 18.

1:32:58 Adam I'm a penis is all upset. It's just a hypothetical. The penis is so excited about the stack of porn that's out there that it just can't wait to get home and jump into my hand.

1:33:09 Drew You've got to remember, you were talking about your hand or the hamper.

1:33:12 Adam No, my penis is trained now. My hand, and the penis jumps into my hand. I no longer have to take my hand or my penis.

1:33:20 Guest Is it a detachable penis?

1:33:21 Adam Not many. No, it just hops in. My finger will go like Danny. Here we go.

1:33:28 Guest How far away do you hold your hand?

1:33:29 Adam Into the hand. I'll get it in the vicinity. But I'll make the penis work a little. Like when you hold the bone up to the dog, you don't hold it down low enough for it to get the first time. That's how you know the nature of man is bad. You can't even feed your own goddamn dog without torturing it just a little bit.

1:33:45 Guest I do that with my cat.

1:33:47 Adam You just can't do it.

1:33:47 Caller I need to do that with my dog too.

1:33:48 Adam It's like, if I was the dog, it'd be like, hey, why'd you get me? It's like, I can stand up my hind legs like some kind of idiot, just drop the damn bone. Let's go home. You gotta do that.

1:33:59 Caller You gotta make them beg, see if they can walk.

1:34:01 Adam Yeah, it's really weird. You'll do it a little lower, and then you'll go, oh, he can get this. Last thing we want is him eating. Raise my hand up a little bit. It's a weird...

1:34:11 Guest You make me feel bad.

1:34:13 Adam This is how you know people are evil and why you can't give anyone any power at all, because it immediately goes hell. They realize they have just a drop of power over a dog, and they're going nuts. They become like Idi Amin all of a sudden with the dog. I'll show you. I bet you want that bone, don't you? Maybe I want it.

1:34:33 Drew Get your friends out. Hey, look at this.

1:34:34 Adam Yeah. Meanwhile, they went out and bought the box for the dog. It's not even like they may eat it later. No. I got a little power. Oh, you want something I got? Aha. That's different. That's different. Now maybe I want it.

1:34:50 Guest It's like sex.

1:34:51 Adam People are so mean and evil.

1:34:54 Drew We're going to break.

1:34:54 Adam Okay. We're going to do that. Did I answer any question?

1:34:57 Drew No. No. No. None tonight.

1:34:59 Caller Okay.

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1:35:33 Adam All right, well, there you go. Another show successfully in the toilet. I want to thank Raylene in the can, I mean, and Chandler for coming in here and being very candid with us tonight. I enjoyed meeting the both of you. And vividvideo.com is where you can find them.

1:35:54 Guest All right?

1:35:56 Adam See, when I say I enjoyed meeting you, you go, thanks, it was fun being here. It was great meeting you too.

1:35:59 Caller It was great being here.

1:36:00 Adam Okay. Thank you very much. I know that came from the bottom of your heart. I want to thank Lisa for doing a wonderful job all week and just being a breath of sunshine in this, in this dark and dismal cave that we work in. I want to thank Anderson for doing a good job engineering all week, being right up there with all the vomit sound effects and the yawns. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo. I love Drew.

1:36:29 Caller GIO Well now.

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Thursday, January 13, 2000