Episode 1000754887477

1:52 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience.

1:55 Voiceover Loveline may contain sexually oriented content.

1:59 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla, Dr. Drew.

2:03 Voiceover I'm not modeling anymore for the two of you.

2:06 Voiceover Loveline.

2:08 Adam Edison specialist. Tonight, we have Larry Flynt and Rabbi Shmuley Boteach in here. The Rabbi's been in here 18 out of the last 14 days. I just did the math. This is his third appearance in about two and a half, three months, I believe.

2:25 Guest That's because you've been collecting phlegm and you're just looking for some way to exit it by using my name.

2:30 Adam I told the Rabbi that I drank a half gallon of chocolate milk on the right end so I could pronounce his last name correctly.

2:36 It is both.

2:39 Adam Larry Flynt, of course, you know, he stops by the show fairly regularly himself. Larry asked me if I was getting my subscription to Busty and I am. Thank you, Larry. I have to say, it's really like Christmas once a month when that Busty issue comes to the door because it's in a plain brown wrapper and it says, I think it's like Flynt Publications or something. It just says, it probably says LFP. LFP, right. So it doesn't say Larry Flynt on it. So I see this brown wrapper, LFP.

3:15 Drew So it sits in your kitchen for a week?

3:17 Adam Yeah, it can. Yeah. It's like, I mean, it's a Montgomery Ward's catalog or something. It doesn't look too good. LFP, what do they do? Used to, we used to play the Hustler or My Name On It. You know what would happen? Nobody would ever get their subscripts. May cause... Oh, right. Somebody would come and send somebody in the post office.

3:36 Drew Sure. Right. It's Christmas all of a sudden.

3:38 Right. Oh, man.

3:40 Adam It is snowing in my hamper. There's just nuts roasting on open fire. It's great. And I talked to Larry's lovely wife who's here tonight the other day on the phone trying to work out something for the man show actually. And she told me about a casino that Larry's going to be opening in Gardena, right? Yeah. Where gambling or at least certain forms of retarded gambling are legal, because it only makes sense. And you've taken over, was it the El Dorado or the horseshoe? Well, it used to be the El Dorado Club, but I built a totally new structure. This is going to be by far the most exotic casino in California. So you took it down to the ground and built the Hustler, the Hustler? It's called the Hustler. And when's that open? It's open in the next 34 weeks. And what are the... And then we'll get into the Rambine, the Debate, which is going on tomorrow night, the Wilshire Theatre and all that. But what are the parameters of the gambling in Gardena? Because I know they have legal gambling there, but it's only certain forms of gambling, right? Yeah. You've got your basic poker games and all your Asian games, like cartel poker, but it's primarily a card club. We have basically, we've got the black jackpot games to it. It incorporates all the Vegas games with the exception of the slots and the craft. Do you bet against, you bet against other players, though, not the house. Is that the stipulation? Yeah. And that makes it okay? Yeah, that's the legal requirement. Yeah. But see, gambling on football is not legal and lottery, lottery, lottery, that's a very safe and effective, that is a smart man's gambler, gambling. It's either the Kentucky Derby or the lottery. Here's my gambling. I'd like to know what percentage of lottery tickets are bought by people in slippers. That would be the lottery that I would put into action when I got in the government.

5:55 Guest You retards.

5:56 Adam All right, go ahead, Rabbi. It's the longest you ever want in your life without talking, by the way. His previous record was six months to nine months. That was his longest stint, but it was just eclipsed now.

6:07 Here, go ahead.

6:09 Guest We started the gambling thing in the synagogue as well. Saturday morning, try to get new congregants in.

6:14 Adam I smell a joke.

6:16 Guest I hope it smells good. I hope it doesn't reek.

6:19 Adam I don't know if you saw 60 Minutes tonight, but there's a black tribe that claims to be Jewish in Africa. Did you see that?

6:26 Drew No, but I've heard of this.

6:27 Guest I'm sure you have.

6:28 Drew Yeah, yeah.

6:29 Adam You guys need more trouble.

6:31 Drew I thought you were the last tribe.

6:34 Adam Let's talk about what's going on tomorrow night. First off, I was asked sort of to do the moderating on it, but then they found someone else.

6:43 Guest We knew you'd bring a very serious kind of posture to the whole debate. We knew that...

6:47 Adam Right. You wanted a professionalism.

6:49 Guest Exactly. Journalistic credibility.

6:53 Adam They found somebody apparently who knew what they were doing, who was willing to do it. So, that's tomorrow night. Now, it's at 7.30, right? To the Wilshire Theater.

7:02 Guest Yes, to the debate on pornography, sexuality on the Internet, myself versus Larry Flynt. Larry and I met on a Fox television show, the Judith Regan Show.

7:11 Adam Oh, right.

7:12 Drew I actually...

7:13 Adam That dried up douchebag. That old douchebag can kiss my ass.

7:17 Drew I hate her.

7:19 Guest She's my publisher.

7:21 Adam Really? Good. Tell that old douchebag to kiss my hairy ass. Play this tape for her, by the way. Play this tape for that old douchebag.

7:29 Guest I will faithfully convey your words. Let me tell you something.

7:31 Adam We had a meeting with that Judith Regan. We'll get to this. She was riding high off the Howard Stern book. We had a meeting because we wrote a book as well. It was about two and a half, three years ago. She sat in the lobby of a ritzy hotel for about an hour while that old prune put her make up on. Then she meandered out, didn't apologize for being late and explained to us why no one wanted to buy our book, that we should do a book on chivalry because that was her son's idea. And let me tell you something, you old douchebag.

7:59 Drew Kiss my ass.

8:00 Adam I've got two TV shows and a national radio show and I don't know what the hell you're doing except for the rabbi's cookbook.

8:06 Guest You brought together Larry Flynt and Schmuley.

8:07 Drew Oh, please.

8:08 Adam And I've never seen that show of hers because I don't believe it airs anywhere but her living room.

8:13 Drew Why? Why? She's got a purposeful thing.

8:15 Adam Player this tape, please.

8:17 Guest I will play the tape but she could bring me and Larry together and I enjoyed my debate with Larry on TV very much. I'll get into that a bit more later but I asked him then, I think we have the green room, whether we could debate this in New York and he said, let's do it in Los Angeles which is more convenient and since I have family here, why not? Larry has very clear...

8:35 Drew He's been living here, he's been living in Los Angeles to continue to do our radio. That's right.

8:38 Guest I haven't left the studio actually and my little my sleeping bag is just behind me.

8:41 Adam Yeah, he pitched a tent right in Likas' office and hasn't been out of the building.

8:47 Guest I got my matzah for Passover, I'm all set. Matzah and water, who knows?

8:51 Adam What is that when you hide the matzah? Is that just from the fat kids or is everyone looking for that matzah?

8:56 Guest That's the deal that the kids do and you can't finish the fader unless you get the matzah back.

9:00 Adam Talk about that.

9:01 Guest They negotiate with their parents to get like a present. I've been cleaned out. I've mortgaged the house.

9:07 Adam Larry makes your Santeria look almost sane, doesn't it? That crazy Judaism.

9:12 Guest Larry, when he walked in today, he said to me there's nothing to debate tomorrow. He said that he's conceding the point and he's converting to Judaism. That's what you said to me, right?

9:20 Adam I don't know. I'm confessing all my sins.

9:25 Guest Well, with us, it's a lot more painful than confession, Larry.

9:27 Adam Yeah, I know. Larry needs one of those religions where he can repent at the very last hour though, and the Judaism is not going to work for that. He needs something where he can... Larry, if I were you, I'd keep a priest with me just in case there was trouble. You can just go ahead. Now, doesn't that the way it works, Drew? Just the last minute you find...

9:45 He's got clergy here. Why don't you ask him?

9:46 Adam Well, he's got you. He doesn't know. Larry knows that. The latest statement I ever heard on religion is when WC. Philz was in the hospital dying, somebody went in his hospital and he was reading the Bible. They said, Philz, we did know you were religious. He goes, I'm just looking for a loophole. All right. So, Timonite, now, how much are the tickets, everybody?

10:08 Guest They're $150.

10:09 Adam Oh, you kind of... You didn't answer me.

10:11 Guest No, the tickets are $15 and $10 to students. But I actually wanted to offer...

10:15 Adam What an answer.

10:16 Guest I actually wanted to offer like 100 free tickets tonight to the listeners of Loveline. My deep respect, and maybe I can speak on Larry's behalf as well, our mutual respect for Dr. Drew and Adam Corolla. So, we want you guys to have like your representatives there, the whole... Your groupies.

10:29 Drew Great.

10:30 Guest The Loveline crowd.

10:30 Drew So, how do you want to do it, whoever called you?

10:33 Guest Well, we have... To get tickets, you can call a number. It's 310-441-9361. That's 310-441-9361.

10:43 Drew The first hundred will be free?

10:44 Guest Yeah, we'll give them free. There's 1,500 people coming. We already have 1,000 coming. And it's a big debate. Newsweek is going to be there, and USA Today, and we have a big pinup of Adam Corolla that's going to be there as well. Sort of like a moderator with... A passive kind of moderator.

10:59 Adam Thank you. Who is going to moderate that? Someone from the Los Angeles Times? Yeah, Robert Sherry, professor of UCLA, and he's been a columnist for the LA Times for several years.

11:12 He's...

11:14 Adam Yeah, sounds boring.

11:16 Drew All right.

11:16 Well, he's most famous for doing the...

11:18 Drew Did he get book reviews?

11:19 Guest The Jimmy Carter, Lust in My Heart Playboy interview.

11:22 Drew That's right.

11:23 Adam But he's... Robert, in many ways, is more political than even you guys are. So I thought, you know, when they ran his name by me, I wouldn't have cared, you know, Adam even if they wanted him, it wouldn't matter to me. But, you know, there were other people involved in it. But I didn't have a problem with Robert because he... I think he understands the politics of sex. That's something that a lot of people are not able to really grasp. What about people peeing on each other in your magazine, Larry? What's up with that?

12:02 Drew We're going to discuss that tomorrow too.

12:03 Adam Are you going to bring that up? The politics of urination? You know, about four years ago, one of our photographers was out in the desert with some models doing a shoot, and our girl squatted down by the side of the jeep just to relieve herself during a break, and somehow the shoot got in the mix, okay? So I come across a photo editing desk, and we just thought it was kind of cute, you know, what she was doing. It wasn't bothered, in a sense. It seemed like a perfectly natural thing. But we were in that shot in the magazine, and we got more letters than anything we got in the last 15 years, from people saying, hey, that was great. Give us more of that. Show us more of that. So, look, I don't know what the fascination is, but I don't want nobody peeing on me. I'm not interested in peeing on anybody myself, but apparently that touched the cord with the guys. Fantastic.

13:12 Guest Well, these are all the kinds of issues that we're going to discuss tomorrow. One of the things I enjoyed in that Fox TV debate was that there were four of us. Me and Larry were two of the four, and we were on opposite sides, obviously. And no matter what people slung at him, and I don't get personal in debates, I like debating the issues. Larry was calm like the Buddha. He never responded personally, and he stuck to the issues, and I felt that we could have a really intelligent debate about what is one of the most important subjects in the world today, and that is 40% of the Internet is used for adult material and pornography. Now, when you consider that the Internet is one of the-

13:45 Adam That's alarmingly low. I agree. I like to see that move up to the 65 to 70 range in the next few years. I agree.

13:51 Guest Well, I may be lovable. I can do it.

13:53 Adam Well, we're trying.

13:56 Guest When you consider that the Internet is one of the great technological innovations of the past two decades and of the 20th century, you have to just look at the fact that when so much of it is being fueled, driven by adult content, and some even argue that adult content is responsible for the spread of this technology, as they argue with videotape and everything else, then this is a serious section that has to be debated because it's very difficult to censor, should we censor, etc. Anyone who has a Yahoo! account or a Hotmail account will know. As soon as you get online, get one of those accounts, you see all those free things that come. I'm 18 and I can't wait to meet you. Come to my site and...

14:31 Adam In fact, one thing I would like to say about the Internet because it infuriates me that this never gets addressed in the very few debates that you see. But guys like the Reverend Falwell, who I've debated on numerous occasions, but people of his ilk, they are so quick to criticize the Internet and they never bother bringing up the fact that they're over 12, over a dozen different browsing mechanisms that will enable you to control the content that's available for your children. Because you see, the religious right realizes that they've lost this argument that consenting adults don't have the right to view whatever they want to in the privacy of their own home. So now what they're trying to do is muddy the water by saying, but look at their children. Well, we all know you can't limit adult reading habits to what's fit for children and you'll have nothing left but Alice in Wonderland or Red Riding Hood. Right. But they missed that point.

15:40 Drew All right.

15:42 Adam Rabbi, no, I don't want a response out of you.

15:44 Drew We're going to the phone.

15:45 Adam Herman, save some for the show tomorrow night. Herman, you're 15. What's up?

15:51 Caller Not much. I was just wondering, when you lose your virginity, do you have to come and shed the girl?

15:57 Do you have to come or?

15:58 Drew No, just consider penetration. In fact, I think our crisis may be pertinent to you guys. I don't know, but the whole notion of what young people sort of conjure up as their idea of virginity is sort of determined individually, sort of randomly too. We have lots of callers that call in and say, well, I'm having anal sex with my boyfriend, and he wants to go all the way with me. Right.

16:24 Adam She's saving herself for marriage.

16:26 Drew Yeah, we get a lot of that, and or they're engaged in oral sex or free. It's things that sort of used to come long after genital intercourse, are now considered things you do in order to preserve virginity. I think the notion of virginity really was, although it originally was an economic issue, was in modern times meant to mean chastity and issue. That is something that people do need to determine for themselves. But in terms of one point in the graph we can all point at is penetration, and that's that. If you've done that, everyone would agree you're no longer a virgin.

16:58 Adam But Herman, you're not a virgin when you enter somebody, okay?

17:05 Caller Okay.

17:06 Drew Just a little bit.

17:07 Adam All right.

17:07 Caller Yeah. Thanks, man.

17:08 Adam All right.

17:09 Guest It's interesting that men ask these questions and seem interested in preserving their virginity. I mean, when did that come about?

17:14 Drew No, they're building an argument, say, they're building a case.

17:17 Adam I don't think Herman is interested in preserving that. Herman, you're not interested in preserving your virginity, are you?

17:23 Caller Not anymore.

17:25 Drew Either A wants you rid of it fast, or B argue it out of somebody else.

17:28 Caller Because it happened two days ago, and I was just wondering like-

17:33 Drew Which friend you should call?

17:35 Caller Yeah.

17:36 Drew What did you tell his friend when he calls?

17:38 Adam I see.

17:38 Drew All right.

17:38 Adam So you're no longer a virgin, Herman. Okay.

17:41 Drew All right.

17:41 Guest But I will say that the most asked question that I get in lectures about relationships is when people ask me how they can reclaim the virginity and what they mean is in a mental state, how could they sort of love someone as if it were the first time?

17:51 Drew You don't get that from men very often. You get that from a lot of women.

17:53 Caller Well, even from the men. Even from the men.

17:55 Guest They're also sort of haunted with a lot of images of ghosts past, and they feel that they just want to let go and not immediately compare their new girlfriends to their previous girlfriends. That becomes very difficult. When subjective love becomes objective evaluation. Yeah. You can fall in love.

18:08 Adam You have to hit them on the head with a coconut, right? Is that the only way to erase those memories?

18:12 Guest That's exactly the advice I get.

18:14 Adam Larry, how's the penis pump working out? We talked about that last time you were in here. You know, a guy that did it for me many, many years ago, I just bumped into him the other day, and he says, some of the leading urologists are going to be out here on the coast. He says, we have made some phenomenal advances.

18:40 Drew He wants to redo you.

18:41 Adam Since I did, you're in there.

18:43 Drew They really have. Now, it's all self-contained.

18:46 Adam Well, here's a self-contained. Mine is self-contained, too.

18:49 Drew You have a bladder, I thought, for your front.

18:51 Caller No, no, no.

18:52 Adam Planted inside the scrotum is an old button about the size of a pea. You just simply mash down on that. When you mash that, there's a pump that's inside your stomach that inflates your penis.

19:08 Drew The last time I looked at it, now they're all self-contained. You actually squeeze the tip and the thing goes up.

19:13 Adam Larry, what if you get in the car fun and you're sitting on your nuts and the pump kicks in and your penis starts pushing through, you're panting out the sunroof? Couldn't that happen?

19:22 Drew It happens in real life. It sounds like a serious dilemma. It is. I think much of our mental energy may not have been struggling with trying to make this more like the natural fact and so there's the math class effect, the history class effect.

19:36 Adam The sweatpants day. The sweatpants effect, absolutely. I'm telling you, yeah, if I was a urologist, I wanted to restore someone's erection at this function. Here's what I do, forget about surgery, forget about drugs, put them in a pair of sweatpants and send them back to junior high. The penis will respond immediately. Ring a bell, have a bunch of 14 year old girls walk by with peachy folders. I know they immediately achieve an erection. Larry, how does the pump work though? Is it electronic? No. What is the button? Pressure. You have, say, implanted in the lower part of your stomach, which is what when you press that little device, implanted in the lower part of your stomach, there's a valve with fluid in it that opens and closes to fill the penis. You will actually stay erect as long as you want to. That erection never goes away until you press the pump to release. So why? If it ain't broke, then don't fix it, right? He just said you wouldn't believe the advances we've made. He said, I think you'd like to hear about it.

20:54 Guest Well, when Viagra came out.

20:56 Adam Rabbi, you have one of the pumps for your yarmulke first. Is that true? You just squeeze it in, pull on your beard, yarmulke in place like a ramp. All right. What were you saying?

21:06 Guest When Viagra came out, a priest debated me about it and he was saying it was a very bad thing. He was saying that the beauty of old age is that you are released from the desires of the flesh and now you can contemplate love of God and things like that. Now because I am opposed to pornography, it doesn't mean I am opposed to sex. Sex is a beautiful thing and one of the things I am going to argue tomorrow, by the way, and I will say it until tomorrow, is that I think Larry really is a closet romantic. If you read his book, you will see why, but you will have to read the book. I said to this priest, I think that is true. I think it is a valid point, but I said to this priest, I assume therefore you are also opposed to dentures. Thank God when you get to a certain age, your teeth go and you can eat applesauce and not be consumed with the pleasures of the steak and now you can contemplate and love God. Sex is important at every stage in life and Judaism is seen as one of the most important aspects of marriage. When you don't have sex with each other, it is a functional termination of the marriage when you consciously desist from it. So, what Larry is saying is a serious subject and it is beautiful that he is able to have that within his marriage.

22:06 Adam Christian should have known not to argue with a Jew. Larry, you know you are starting off in a hole arguing with a Jewish man and the rabbi here is like a Jewish auctioneer. Why don't more Jews get into the auctioning world? They love to talk, they talk fast, it is not physical labor.

22:25 Guest Why should we get into auctioning when we can make billions on the stock market?

22:28 Adam My attorney is a Jew, I never won an argument with him, my doctor is a Jew, I never won an argument with him. I know, you never won an argument with a Jew in my life.

22:36 Guest Yeah, he says that, he says that, but I came in a jalopy and he came in a Rolls Royce, so who won the argument?

22:43 Drew No food or bagels served at the Livestock Club.

22:45 Adam Okay, Drew, please. Carrie, how dare you?

22:49 Drew We should be the one that is part of the fact that Jewish traditions tend to be sort of around alcohol, around food. Yes, that's true.

22:58 Guest Judaism is a very sensual religion and food is a part of that. Carrie, because drink numbs your senses.

23:03 Hi.

23:03 Adam What's up there, sweetie? You're 16.

23:06 Caller Yeah.

23:07 Okay, every female I know who's had anal sex does it afterwards. They fart a lot. I was wondering if that could be prevented if the condom was used.

23:17 Guest I love this show. These are the typical questions I get from my congregants.

23:21 Adam Sure. You leave the condom in, you got a nice fart balloon. People think your ass is an idea. I don't think the condom is going to affect that.

23:31 Drew No, I don't think so either. I think you're just irritating the area there no matter how you focus.

23:38 Adam I don't know if that's-

23:39 Do you still get those problems? What? You still get those problems?

23:43 Drew It's not something that's- You get all kinds of problems out of it if you're not careful.

23:47 Adam It's irritated.

23:48 Drew That's what stimulates the gas relief.

23:50 Adam Terry, how many of your friends are engaging in the corn hole?

23:54 Drew Why?

23:56 Caller I know a few that have tried it and they all said the same thing.

24:00 Drew Why were they doing it? Did you guys convince them into it?

24:04 Caller Just experimenting, I think.

24:07 Adam Where were all the young Einstein's when I was in high school? That's my question. No, almost no experimentation going on. The experiment was how they could wiggle out of a date with me. That was the kind of experimentation that was going on. I want to kill myself and come back as a junior in high school. That is my plan. Oral sex going on all over the place, anal sex to keep hold of the virginity. It is a great time we are living in. People are peeing next to jeeps. It is a real utopia we are in. Where is the love?

24:40 Guest I knew you were going to call me a party pooper on that one.

24:42 Drew I wonder about the issues of degradation and how that figures into this. Either of you points to the audience.

24:50 Adam When we come back, we will speak to Ace. Christopher heard that if he drinks an Easter egg dye, he can change the color of the semen.

24:59 Caller We will find out after this.

25:06 We will be right back with more.

25:08 Adam This is Adam Carolla.

25:09 Drew This is Dr. Drew. Stay tuned for more Love Line on the Zone 105.

25:13 Caller 105.

25:14 Adam This is Adam Carolla.

25:16 Drew This is Dr. Drew.

25:16 Adam And you are listening to Love Line on the Zone 105. It is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Bad Religion will be in here later this week. Robbie Gordon, the race car driver and the Sandus band Everclear also later this week.

25:44 Guest Oh, you started with the best.

25:46 Adam Yeah, we started with the...

25:47 Guest You can only go downhill from here.

25:48 Adam Rabbi Schmuley Boteach and of course Larry Flynt. We are going to be doing a little debate tomorrow night at 7.30 at the Wilshire Theatre.

25:57 Guest Can I have your phone number?

25:58 Adam Sure.

25:59 Guest We are going to give 100 free tickets. This is a debate on pornography and sexuality with specific reference to the internet. We are giving out 100 free tickets. You can call 310-441-9361. Say you are from Loveline. If there is only an answering machine, leave your name there and we will have the ticket waiting for you at the door. The debate is tomorrow at 7:30 p.m. at the Wilshire Theatre. It will be covered by the national media and it should be very interesting. Adam, do you mind if I throw a question to Larry?

26:23 Adam I want to also say that Larry's bodyguard is going to urinate on the first 20 feet through the door. Just to keep the routine going.

26:31 Guest You can also download the debate on Beliefnet. Beliefnet is the country's leading religion, ethics, morality site. They have about 10 million page views a day. Very interesting place. It is going to be broadcasted there, beliefnet.com. In Larry's book, he describes, and one of the things Drew and I are discussing right now is that what is refreshing about Larry is that he is very honest. Whether you agree with what he does, don't agree, and that will be our debate tomorrow. But he lays the facts on the table. He says that you say, Larry, there, that you really wanted to believe in fidelity in marriage, but that your first wife, Peggy, cheated against you and that broke your heart. You determined then that you would never again be faithful to a woman, which seems to indicate to me, that you believed in the idea of faithfulness, but someone had hurt you, and you decided that you weren't going to make yourself vulnerable anymore. But you have your wife here tonight, and it's the second time in a matter, and she seems like a very sweet woman. So I just wanted to ask you, has your view on faithfulness in marriage changed with your...

27:27 Adam Well, you know, I was just a kid when that happened, and obviously, sex is much better with someone that you love. But often we confuse sexual passion with love, and they're two different things.

27:48 Guest People see them differently.

27:52 Adam And I think most people in America view their sexual attitude and preferences as something private. What goes on between consenting adults who really, you know, their own private business, regardless of all kinds of advice that you might have or I might have or other commentators, as Dr. Drew, these people are ultimately going to make the decisions as to how they want to live their life. You know, the religious zealots have had their hand on their crotch for over 2,000 years and the government is exceedingly moving in that direction, a feeling that if they can control our pleasure center, they can control us. Other than the desire for survival, the strongest single desire that we have is that of sex and you are just simply not going to be able to harness something so powerful and be able to dictate in a personal way to the people in a way that they want to accept it. So whatever they're doing, if it's legal, it should be their business.

29:13 Caller That's the way I look at it.

29:15 Adam All right, let's get to the phones. In the second hour, Dr. Drew and I are going to square off with a debate with Producer Ann over why we have to work on God damn Easter night. That will be again coming up in the second hour. Should we be working on Easter, Drew?

29:30 Drew Anderson wants to weigh in on that one too.

29:32 Adam Do we work on Easter, Ann? Do we always work on Easter?

29:36 Drew Really?

29:36 Adam What is up with that?

29:38 Drew Drew, we have to get it.

29:39 Adam Yes, Anderson, go ahead.

29:41 Guest I think that maybe you should be in here, but the rest of us who have any kind of relationship should not be.

29:45 Drew Because you are an atheist, yes, you should be.

29:47 Adam Thank you. Well, listen, I have to slaughter an animal in the pagan ritual.

29:51 Guest You told me that you love Passover.

29:53 Adam I love Passover because you sit around and eat. I call it Passover. You eat a lot of food and you sit around and break wind.

30:00 Drew You eat parsley and hard-boiled eggs and drink salt water.

30:02 Adam Oh, yes.

30:03 Guest That was not the greatest diet.

30:05 Adam That was yesterday's Jew. This is today's Jew. We eat lots of brisket and potatoes. As I said to a caller who phoned in last week, I said that she loved me. Her only problem was that she was very religious and that I was anti-Jesus and I said, I'm not anti-Jesus. I'm pro-Satan. There's a difference. Right, Larry? Thank you. Christopher.

30:29 Hey.

30:30 Adam You're 18. What's up?

30:31 Caller Hey, Larry. How's it going? Pretty good. Well, I just had a quick question.

30:36 Caller I didn't know Larry was going to be on the show, but I just thought of a question while I'm lying here.

30:39 Guest Could I go ahead and ask him real quick?

30:40 Caller Sure.

30:41 Caller Okay. Big fan of the magazine.

30:44 Drew Love it.

30:44 Guest Been looking at it for a couple of years now. Golden Shower, not too big a fan of, but I was wondering what's going to be like the newest or latest trend in pornography that you see coming up pretty soon.

30:55 Adam It's called the mudslide. Let me explain how it works.

31:01 Drew I don't know.

31:04 Adam Sexual attitudes continue to evolve. There's only so many ways you can kill a tomato. But Larry, isn't part of the problem is you have to keep pushing the envelope. You have to keep going. I mean, if you take a look at what was going, being passed off as pornography, let's say 40, 50 years ago, it's not even a temple. Today we're already being called gynecological muscle. How much farther can you push?

31:32 Drew That's the question. But it does.

31:36 Adam But isn't, let me interrupt the rabbi here and say, in all aspects of life, it just keeps going. I was watching the NBA playoffs today. Guys are doing things that guys couldn't have dreamt of 20 years ago, 30 years ago in the league. I mean, you look at a sport 40, 50 years ago, a bunch of little guys, no jump shot, no monster dunks. I mean, look what's happened to skateboarding, look what's happened to everything. Pornography, it just keeps going and going and going.

32:06 Drew What's interesting is you're pointing out mechanisms that all involve or evoke thrill. Right. It's in that realm that we seem to be totally preoccupied. If you look at human biology, thrill mechanisms tend to create biology that helps people deal with unpleasant feelings. The more intense the thrill, the more euphoric the diversion. Right. I just wonder if the reason where a market is coming up to meet the thrill need is because we are so empty. We can't modulate. We don't have the real human connection that makes us feel okay.

32:41 Guest Let me just reinforce that for a second, obviously. It's like a drug. The beauty of a drug is, for people who take drugs, is that it gives you an instant high. The problem is that it's ephemeral. As quickly as you go up, you drop down and you crash.

32:53 Drew You do it because it works.

32:55 Guest Right.

32:55 Drew It does work.

32:56 Guest But it works temporarily and it only addresses the surface personality. It doesn't address our deepest and our most needs. That's why it becomes addictive. Because it's thrilling and yet empty, I have to continually indulge in it in order to sustain the high. It's like a balloon that needs helium to continually push it up.

33:11 Adam Well, let me agree with you by saying it's why you eat so many of those fat-free chips. You never get full. You go through two bags of those goddamn chips because there's no fat in them. You just keep going. It's empty. All right, go ahead. I had a little snacking metaphor to make.

33:28 Guest Opposite reason why when you eat matzah you don't want to eat any more. Because matzah is the food of a slave. It doesn't digest. The matzah I ate last year is still somewhere down in my stomach. When it comes to sex, the beauty of sex is the more you plan it and the more you try to push the envelope, the more you try to have this outrageous sexual interplay, the less satisfied you are because sex is satisfying specifically when you don't do when you just are. In other words, sex is pleasurable when you put yourself on autopilot. It's when you submit entirely to instinct. Great sex is where you can't control what you do. You light a fire, the bird's out of control. What's happening with all these kids who are calling up saying, I tried anal sex, I tried this. They're trying and it's dissatisfying because it's something they do rather than something they are. Sex is where you take all the inhibition away, you remove all your defenses and you allow your soft underbelly and that's why it's pleasurable. Everything in life where we're evaluated, we try to do, we know we're being measured is not pleasurable. Like taking a test or sitting in front of a job interview. Whenever you do something where you're totally natural, like with your friends having a drink, that's pleasurable. Sex, which is natural, is pleasurable. The problem that I have with pushing the envelope is, it's people who are so dissatisfied with sex that they'll do anything outrageous thinking this will finally give me the thrill, but that just leads to more and more outrageous experimentation. One final example, studies show that womanizers, the guy at the JFK, alleged womanizers, all of the biographies written by his alleged mistresses, like Judith Campbell Exner said, although he was the sexiest guy, he was a terrible, terrible lover. Sex lasted two minutes.

34:57 Adam Well, non-chew. There you go.

35:00 Guest The reason is that he didn't have to renew himself. Whenever his sexual repertoire was exhausted after two minutes, when he got bored, he found another woman instead of finding deeper levels of the same woman. That kind of intimacy, I think, which is what also breeds love. You know what? Larry says the same thing about, and I don't mean to be painful here, God forbid, but the way you describe your love for your wife, Althea, you basically say that with everyone else, you were having impersonal sex. You also say that impersonal sex was a way of distracting you from the pain you had experienced in previous relationships. But with her, you use the word soulmate. She was a soulmate and it was much more satisfying. You even say there that there were other women who were much better in bed than she was, and yet the sex with her was most satisfying because you loved her.

35:42 Adam That's very true. Alright, that's a good place to hop back on the phone. By the way, Larry's poor wife Liz is sitting in the next room. I hear the rabbi wax on about sexual indiscretions, never being faithful to a woman again, the sex never went better, the woman was a good ex-wife.

36:00 Caller Liz is a very sweet woman.

36:01 Adam Jesus Christ, I have some god damn decorum.

36:03 Caller Would you please?

36:03 Guest Liz is a sweet woman and I bet Larry is a very good husband and so he appears. But this is a book that exists and it's a very fascinating book. People should really read it to be honest.

36:10 Adam Christopher.

36:11 Guest To see the real Larry Flip.

36:13 Drew Oh, no problem.

36:13 Adam Anyway, so you think you can drink Easter egg dine that's going to turn your semen different. My girlfriend and I, yeah. And then the kids can all look for it out in the yard. Is that what you're saying?

36:23 Drew I took a sip of it yesterday and it about vomited.

36:25 Caller I wonder if that has any validity to it.

36:28 Drew No, please.

36:31 Adam How stoned do you have to be to drink Easter egg dine by the way?

36:34 Drew Stoned do you have to believe your friends when they start poking at you?

36:36 Guest It's after the four cups of wine at the Seder that they're like.

36:40 Drew My girlfriend said that she had a girlfriend and one of her boyfriends did it. They're all getting good laugh now though.

36:46 Guest Supposedly something happened.

36:48 Adam All right, Christopher.

36:49 Caller All right. All right.

36:50 Adam Thanks, guys. Hey, listen, if one of them does that one where they ask you if you want a Hertz doughnut or if your hand is bigger than your face, it means you reach hard and then they whack your hand while you put it over your face. Don't fall for that. All right, buddy.

37:02 Guest And also she had the butthole of the size of the mason jar.

37:05 Drew There you go.

37:07 Adam That's not him, though.

37:08 Drew I know it's not him.

37:09 Adam It's just one of his lanky.

37:11 Drew An evil, evil man.

37:13 Adam Alberto?

37:14 Drew Hi.

37:15 Adam You're 22.

37:16 Drew Yes.

37:17 Adam You're on with Larry Flynt and ran by Shmuley Boteach.

37:20 Caller Hi. Yes. My question is, I just separated from my wife at the beginning of this year, and now I like my sister-in-law. Well, I've pretty much liked her from a long time ago, and I want to know what I should do, if I should go for it or what.

37:40 Drew Of course not. That's your brother?

37:42 Caller My sister-in-law.

37:43 Drew It's your brother's wife?

37:45 Guest He separated from his wife.

37:46 Drew Oh, it's your wife's sister.

37:47 Guest He separated. Now he's attracted to his sister-in-law. Does she know about your attraction?

37:52 Caller Um, I'm not sure. No, I don't think so.

37:54 Adam Is she married?

37:56 Caller No.

37:57 Adam Do you think she likes you?

37:59 Caller I don't know. We just get along.

38:01 Adam Are you divorced from your wife?

38:04 Caller No, we're not divorced yet.

38:05 Adam Well, go and get to divorce first. If you're still a fellow, sign my bill first.

38:09 Drew I better tell Larry Flynt to get to divorce first.

38:14 Adam Okay. If you head down to Gardena, to Larry's new casino, he will not have a chapel there, but he'll have a divorce attorney, which is a new twist. This would be a good idea, Larry. You can take this idea instead of the Vegas chapels. You have the divorce attorney, just a guy, probably one of the rabbi's friends, who sits in the corner and just gives people an old man's seat.

38:37 Guest An honored buck?

38:38 Adam Yeah, why not? I mean, there's probably more people looking to get divorced at a casino than there are to getting married. That is a solid plan. Larry's not impressed at my point. All right, we're going to take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Dean. He's 21, got drunk, and dry-humped a gay guy. Now, he's chafing. Yeah, wants to know what to do.

39:00 Guest Why are there only team questions this evening?

39:03 Adam The kind you run into all the time in your...

39:07 Guest The synagogue. This is the kind you're going to ask me to study.

39:08 Adam Your weekly tourist study class, right? All right, we'll take a little break, and we'll be back with Larry and the Rabbi after this. By the way, good sitcom idea. Hold on, Drew, get a pen and pencil. I want to tell you about this idea during the break. Rabbi and the Pornographer. Larry and the Rabbi. Make a good tip.

39:27 Guest Good sitcom?

39:28 Adam What do you say? First episode, you guys get in a big argument, you split the condo right in half. You got to stay on that side, I got to stay on this side. Fine, have it your way, then a minute later, Larry's got to use the bathroom, all right? But the Rabbi won't let him use the bathroom because it's on his side of the thing. So Larry finds his prayer hat, one of those big brimmed hats, the Hasidim wear up and down, and he craps in it. That's already the first episode, we already got a winner. All right, we'll take a break, we'll be back.

40:00 Guest Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191.

40:02 Caller We'll be back in a minute.

40:03 Adam Well, let's hope to hear again.

40:04 Drew This is Adam Corolla, this is Dr. Drew. Stay tuned for more Loveline on the Zone 105. This is Adam Corolla, this is Dr. Drew, and you're listening to Loveline on the Zone 105.

40:27 Adam It is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LLVE-191. Larry Flynt and Rabbi Shmuley Boteach are our guests tonight. They are having themselves a little debate. Well, a little one here tonight, a big one tomorrow night at the Wilshire Theater, which I'm guessing is on Wilshire, otherwise someone is going to get fired over there, which is right in West LA, sort of in Wilshire, Beverly Hills. Yeah, it's a nice theater, right in Beverly Hills on Wilshire. Come on out and watch the sparks fly. 730 and Rabbi, give that number out again for the first 100 people who call this number. If they haven't called already, they can get free tickets.

41:18 Guest 310-441-9361. 310-441-9361. People will call here as well, I guess. We can give them some tickets. People are calling for questions.

41:28 Adam Producer Anne was shaking her head no, because she feels like work. She's like a pain in the ass. I mean, how are we going to facilitate that?

41:37 Guest So it's a debate on pornography, 611 on the Internet.

41:41 Adam Okay. But what about, is this an 18 and over thing? Should kids come out to this thing? I mean, there's going to be some frank language and some discussion here, right?

41:52 Guest I don't see, and maybe Larry will feel differently. I don't see it's going to be that explicit. There are some very important issues to debate. I mean, Larry's been through all the great debates.

42:01 Adam I don't know about the rabbi, but I don't think I'll have anything to say that I wouldn't care that any teenager heard. No, you don't care, but I mean, would the parents care, I guess, is the question. I don't think so.

42:14 Guest Yeah, and the same here. I think it's going to be, that's why I want to give away these 100 tickets to your Loveline listeners, because I think it's important for them to hear it. I mean, if we can get anyone to think more deeply about sexuality, about the issues, like what you're doing here on the show, that would be very rewarding, and that's why these debates are important, to generate light and not just heat.

42:32 Adam During the commercial, the rabbi revealed to me a secret weapon he's going to use against Larry if he's losing the debate late in the 12th hour. His yarmulke is actually a blade.

42:42 Guest It doubles as a circumcise.

42:43 Adam Remember Odd Job from 007, the big Asian man with the top hat. Throw the derby.

42:50 Drew Throw the derby and he would chop the head off of a statue.

42:53 Adam Yes, yes. The rabbi can do the same with his yarmulke.

42:56 Guest No, it doubles as a circumcision thing, you know, to bring people into the continent.

43:01 Adam That really takes a good toss.

43:04 Guest By the way, it is going to be on beliefnet.com. Remember, you can follow the debate on www.beliefnet.com.

43:11 Adam Dean, you're 21.

43:12 Caller Hey Adam, you can call me DJ.

43:14 Adam All right, DJ. Well, after your exploits with the gay dry humping, we may just call you DJ. So, what happened?

43:23 Caller Gay guy at my work through a party. We were there, had a few drinks. He was showing me around the house, and up downstairs in the basement. He touched, grabbed my thigh, kissed me. I've had quite a bit. So, for me.

43:42 Drew Are you gay?

43:43 Caller No, not normally. That's what was weird. All of a sudden, we just started thrusting a little bit. And then, you know, one thing led to another.

43:51 Drew I think we'd drive home for like an hour.

43:53 Adam You're gay. You may have some in you.

43:57 Caller Yeah, maybe a little picture in there.

43:59 Adam Yeah, not homo, but halfmo.

44:01 Caller Sure.

44:02 Adam Maybe quartermo.

44:03 Guest How old are you?

44:05 Adam 21. 21. And so you enjoyed yourself?

44:09 Caller Well, I guess at the time.

44:11 Adam Or are you just trying to get at a scarf collection? Yeah. You know all gay men collect scarves. I don't have to tell you that. How come there's always one gay guy at every office? Do they just actually bring him in? You know what I mean? Like the boss announces, here's the token gay guy we have to offer. We have to employ him. I'm not sure what he does.

44:33 Drew If they're harder working, they get better jobs.

44:35 Adam It could be that, but why is it number two? There's just a one gay guy they hire.

44:40 Caller Yeah, one gay guy.

44:41 Adam All right. So you went to the party, you ended up in the basement, you made out, you kind of enjoyed it. Now you're questioning yourself a little bit.

44:48 Caller There's some chafing down there. I had the badges off and there's like a... It's a little chafe down there after that hour long.

44:56 Drew Well, that makes sense, doesn't it? Yeah.

44:59 Adam Well, let's just say you replaced a gay man's leg with a lamppost. Wouldn't you still have the same chafing?

45:09 Drew Yeah.

45:09 Caller Okay.

45:09 Adam I don't know.

45:11 Caller All right.

45:11 Adam Dean, do you have a girlfriend?

45:15 Caller Not right now, no.

45:16 Adam Okay. All right. Well, let's keep your options open.

45:19 Caller Yeah. Just apply a little more chafing down there and I think you'll be all right.

45:23 Adam Yeah. I don't know what you can get from rubbing on gay men.

45:26 Drew I don't know what your question is.

45:27 Adam He doesn't really have a question. All right, Dean. You're definitely gay, I think. Here we go. Daniel?

45:33 Caller Yep.

45:34 Adam You're 18.

45:35 Caller Yeah.

45:36 Adam Your girlfriend threatens to say you raped her if you ever try to break up with her.

45:42 Caller Yeah.

45:42 Adam It seems fair.

45:44 Caller Last time I tried to break up with her, she ended up in the psych ward for suicidal threats.

45:51 Drew How old is she?

45:52 Caller She's 17.

45:54 Drew Yeah.

45:54 Guest Were you the first man she had sex with?

45:57 Caller No. Actually, we still have not had sex.

46:00 Adam What a surprise. Are you gay yourself, Daniel?

46:05 Caller No, I'm not.

46:05 Adam You sure?

46:06 Caller Yes, I am. I'm just a religious man.

46:09 Adam You're a religious man because my spidey sense is tingling a little bit. I dare you. Wait a second.

46:15 Guest Every guy doesn't want to have sex. He's necessarily gay.

46:17 Adam No. But if you notice, my partner, Dr. Drew, wrote down that he's gay before the part where he said he had never had sex before. Are you sure you don't like the fellas at all?

46:29 Caller I'm positive.

46:30 Adam I bet you could find something you liked in this studio. We got everything. We got it all here, boy.

46:35 Guest Are you trying to find out how you can sever the relationship without her being more distraught?

46:40 Caller Basically, yes.

46:42 Adam It's an interesting question because it puts a lot of responsibility on you, especially if she's as unstable as she says she is.

46:50 Drew I believe we're gambling on Daniel.

46:51 Adam Really? Why? Daniel, what's up with you?

46:56 Caller What do you mean?

46:57 Adam Are you on any medications?

47:00 Caller I have been on Ritalin, but I'm off it now and I'm on inhaler for asthma.

47:06 Drew Okay. Any other? You've been under psychiatric care yourself?

47:09 Caller No, I have not.

47:10 Drew But the Ritalin, where did that come from?

47:12 Caller I was under psychiatric care, but I'm not anymore. I haven't been for about three years now.

47:20 Adam I see.

47:20 Drew What was going on when you were?

47:23 Caller Dad was very abusive.

47:26 Adam I see. All right. Drew was getting a very strong vibe from you the minute you started talking. Hey, Daniel? Yep. It seems like you're in over your head with this one. Do you have a counselor or somebody that you still talk to?

47:41 Caller Actually, I don't.

47:42 Adam Can you get back in touch with the people that helped you some years back?

47:46 Drew Or maybe even talk to the people that are trying to help her so they can facilitate this breakup? Because continuing a charade like this is not going to help her be healthier.

47:57 Adam All right. We're going to take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Linda. Linda?

48:02 Caller Hello?

48:02 Adam You're 17. You had a threesome?

48:05 Caller Yeah.

48:05 Adam Okay. Hold on a second.

48:07 Drew We're going to listen to it quick. Quick in the draw.

48:09 Adam Yeah. The lightning. You had a threesome?

48:14 Drew Yeah.

48:15 Adam All right. We're going to take ourselves a little break. We'll be back with Larry and the Rabbi and Linda, the 17-year-old threesome queen after this.

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48:42 Drew Oh wow.

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49:04 Caller Zone 105, KZNR Lakeville, KZNT Cambridge, KZNT Eden Prairie. This is Zone 105.

49:15 Adam It's the Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Bad Religion coming up later in the week, Robbie Gordon, race car driver and everclearer later in the week, all as well. Larry Flynt is our guest tonight, also Rabbi Schmuley Boteach. Schmuley is not as a Jewish name actually, Jake. Big Jake is his Jewish name, but he was affectionately...

49:42 Drew He wrestled with that name.

49:43 Adam He went with Schmuley to get the chicks.

49:46 Guest Well, Schmuley is actually a contraction of two words. Schmuley comes from the Hebrew word shimu, meaning killer well, and Lee comes from the Hebrew word Pamela Andersonly. You put them together, you get larger than life Jewish sex symbols. So I see that jealousy raging in your eyes.

50:03 Adam I'm not going to let you out of this room. Way too much competition from the Rabbi with the ladies. Tomorrow night, 7.30, speaking of competition, Larry and the Rabbi are going to be going at it at the Wheelchair Theatre right there in Beverly Hills. Come on, come on. We're going to hop back on the phones. We'll get to Linda. Linda is 17. She had the threesome, right Linda?

50:28 Caller Yeah.

50:29 Adam This is with your boyfriend and your ex-boyfriend?

50:31 Caller Yeah.

50:32 Oh boy.

50:33 Guest Whose idea was this Linda?

50:35 Caller Mine.

50:36 Guest Was it really? Yeah. What were you seeking to achieve? Do you love your boyfriend?

50:40 Caller Yeah.

50:41 Guest Did you want to make him jealous?

50:42 Caller No. My ex-boyfriend looks better when he does.

50:46 Guest Why are you with his current boyfriend?

50:47 Adam Hold on. We are going for our money. Hold on a second, Linda. We are doing some gambling, all right? You got to be honest with us, right? Okay. Hold on. Boy, this is going to be tough because I'm sure the rabbi doesn't carry any cash and Larry only does.

51:01 Caller Larry is going to lend me some.

51:03 Adam Larry deals only in gold bullion. So, do you have like, I don't know, a hundredth of an ounce of gold or something? Can we shave some of the gold up when you're to bloom?

51:14 Guest The last time I was with Mr. David Larry on Fox, we were blinded by his watch. I mean, you take one of the little particles out of the watch, that will cover it.

51:22 Adam Yeah, take that watch and just chip one of the diamonds off.

51:26 Guest I chose the wrong profession. That's what is evidently clear from our two watches.

51:31 Adam I don't want to be insensitive, but when you're in a wheelchair, where do you hide the wallet? I mean, does it go in the top pocket there? No, in the bodyguard. How he carries it? He says, I'm overdue for good ass-kicking, by the way. All right, now this is going to be tough between the rabbi and Dr. Drew, who has some Jewish blood in him. I fear that I'm going to have to put another buck up. No, I think it's going to be... All right, so wait a minute. Rabbi, you put a buck?

51:57 Guest I'll put a buck.

51:58 Adam Put a buck, come on, deep in it.

52:00 Guest I'll put a buck. Do you have Jewish blood?

52:01 Adam Yes. Oh, yes.

52:02 Guest You never buy retail?

52:03 Adam Didn't you say he didn't put a dollar up there? He has a change maker that the ice-free man wears. Usually that's in nickels.

52:11 Guest I only have ten.

52:12 Adam I'm going to have to borrow... He's asking about hundreds.

52:14 Guest I've got twenty. I've got ten.

52:16 Adam Drew, get another dollar out there. What's your... For Christ's sake, I'll put one in for the rabbi, you put one in for Larry, and here's what we're going to do. By the way, Larry, is that a new Rolls you got out there? It's very nice. It's a new Bentley. Yeah, that's turbo. That's...

52:31 Drew Turbo.

52:32 Adam Yeah, what's that thing set you back? About two and a quarter, something like that? No, it's 365.

52:40 Drew 360.

52:41 Adam I thought...

52:41 Guest That's the Gentile retail price. I could have gotten it for one of the...

52:44 Drew Especially for him, of course, you know what I mean?

52:46 Adam I could have... I thought just the convertibles were up over three. 365.

52:52 Drew Good car.

52:55 Adam I used to own Rolls Royce's all the time, but boy, that Bentley Turbo is ten times the car that Rolls Royce has. Wicked. Wicked car. Tons of, you know, I mean, 400 horsepower.

53:04 Guest What did you come in, Adam? A Cuisinart? I mean, you didn't exactly...

53:08 Adam I drove a Salad Shooter over the show. It's a moped that's actually powered by a Salad Shooter. Thank you.

53:14 Guest Now, what is this? What's the bet?

53:16 Adam Well, hold on a sec. I want to find out real quick about this... The car... .this Bentley. When you buy a car that's $365,000, you don't lease it, do you? I always do. You lease? Yeah. Because this is going to be funny. Now, what do you pay a month on a car that's $365,000? About $8,000 a month. $8,000 a month. And at the end of the lease, I just buy the car out and then I... No, I trade it down on my new one, you know.

53:43 Guest You do realize that Larry and I agreed that if I win the debate tomorrow, I get the car.

53:47 Adam Right.

53:47 Guest That's part of the...

53:48 Drew You guys are debating for pink.

53:49 Adam He gets your 79 Nova, you get the Bentley Furba.

53:53 Guest He gets the thousand copies of Unsold Coaches Sex.

53:55 Drew That's the...

53:56 Guest I get the car.

53:56 Adam All right. Now, here's how the gambling works on this show. We gamble on our caller's past, not the present, not what they're doing today, but what kind of environment they grew up in. And Linda over here, who at the ripe old age of 17, thinks it's a good idea to have a threesome with two guys. She's either dating a date... And an ex-boyfriend... .one and an ex-boyfriend, and is fairly cavalier about the whole thing. That leads us to believe there were some hijinks in their past. Now, could the dad was an alcoholic, dad could have been sexually abused or sometimes the smart money is just on everything is fine and she just got a wild hair up her. So we'll start with the rabbi. Rabbi, what do you think?

54:37 Guest About Linda's past?

54:38 Adam Yeah.

54:39 Guest I think that Linda had some trauma in her past.

54:42 Caller That's very vague.

54:44 Adam That is vague.

54:45 Guest This way I can win the pot without having to be specific. I think that Linda may have experienced some abuse and that women who are abused typically demonstrate male-oriented sexual tendencies. For example, they are very easy to separate their emotions from their bodies so they will engage in casual, commitment-free sex and especially here I see you are really trying to subconsciously take two guys off each other because she didn't just choose two strangers. She chose two men who want the object of her aggression.

55:10 Adam Rabbi, are you going with sexual abuse?

55:13 Guest Sexual abuse which led her to take her heart, put it into a little closet and say, you could have my body. I'm too young to protest but my heart is mine.

55:21 Adam Rabbi saved the commentary. We're gambling here.

55:24 Guest I have a great thing about the Torah.

55:25 Adam He's going with sexual abuse.

55:27 Drew By whom?

55:28 Adam This is by the Rabbi.

55:29 Drew Oh, by who? I'm sorry.

55:31 Adam No, another Rabbi actually abused her.

55:33 Drew A dad, neighbor, uncle?

55:35 Guest I would say relative.

55:36 Drew Relative, right? Not dad.

55:39 Adam Well, that's a relative.

55:39 Drew Well, you're somebody else that want to say dad.

55:41 Adam Okay. Well, we'll see. I wouldn't say dad.

55:44 Guest I'd say relative.

55:44 Drew Not dad.

55:45 Adam All right. Larry, what do you think? From listening to her voice, I believe that she's a very adventurous young girl. That's not an evidence. Okay. So is what she feels living her life to its fullest. All right. So no abuse, no wholesale abuse, just a free soul, free spirit. All right.

56:18 Guest Red blooded American.

56:19 Adam Now I know why doesn't Campbell his own money. And Drew, what do you want me to go? All right. I'm going to go with no sexual abuse, divorced early, parents, no contact with dad. Dad was a little boozy before he left the house. Maybe they're a stepdad or boyfriends, not great guys, neglected, no physical or sexual abuse, just sort of a lot of neglect by men and abandonment issues with men.

56:54 Drew I get the neglect thing too strongly. I'm going to say, raised in a household early, that was really just chaotic, like dad was a heroin addict or something, taken out of the home, put in foster care, and that's it.

57:07 Adam True. Very solid. All right. Here we go.

57:09 Guest We have four very different views.

57:11 Adam We'll hop back on. Linda?

57:13 Caller Yeah.

57:14 Adam All right. Who's right? The Jew, the pornographer, the doctor, or the ex-carpenter?

57:20 Caller The Jew.

57:21 Adam The Jew is right?

57:22 Caller Yeah.

57:22 Adam The Jews are always right.

57:23 Guest The Rabbi is always right.

57:25 Adam What? You were sexually abused?

57:28 Caller Yeah, by my dad.

57:30 Adam By dad?

57:31 Caller Yeah.

57:31 Adam Interesting. So the Rabbi-

57:33 Drew Is dad an addict?

57:36 Caller I'm not sure.

57:37 Guest You know, I won $4 for that small compensation. Let me just say that, Linda, you know, when Sigmund Freud, when he put together his theory, and so many women came to him in Vienna, said we were abused, his theory was that they only thought they were abused. Based on that, he built psychoanalysis. It turned out-

57:52 Adam I was a young age.

57:53 Drew Well, how long did that happen, Linda?

57:56 Caller I don't remember it at all.

57:58 Adam How do you know it happened?

57:59 Caller Well, I found my mom's student files and I found out that way. Then she put it on the doctor's notes, and it popped up and she didn't know. She's like, oh my God, she found out.

58:15 Adam Wait a minute, Linda, let me just ask you a couple of questions before Rabbi starts talking about Jung for 20 minutes. Your dad is where now? He left. When's the last time you saw him?

58:29 Caller In 1993.

58:32 Adam So it's been seven years. He left when you were 10. Why did he leave?

58:37 Caller Well, he lied and said the court took it away from him or something. But in reality, he just decided not because he didn't want to pay.

58:45 Adam Okay. So you don't have contact with him now. How's your mom?

58:51 Caller I don't know.

58:51 Caller She's sort of depressed.

58:53 Adam She's pretty depressed.

58:55 Guest Is there a man in her life?

58:58 Caller No. She hasn't had a date in eight years.

59:00 Adam I see. Maybe you can set her up when you're ex-boyfriends. And so, according to these documents that you saw, your father sexually abused you at some point.

59:12 Caller Yeah.

59:13 Adam Okay.

59:13 Guest Have you ever had a dream that you're either naked or even dressed, but you're sort of out in the street and you're knocking on doors and people answer it, it looks just like your home, but a stranger answers it? Anything like that?

59:25 Caller Well, just that I came to school in my underwear, so that's it.

59:30 Guest Yeah. I mean, a lot of people who've experienced sexual abuse later have these strange kinds of dreams.

59:35 Caller I don't have any more. I used to have them.

59:38 Drew I have underwear dreams.

59:39 Adam You know, one thing that bothers me about this is, you know, if she's saying she's abused but she can't remember it, I find that troublesome.

59:50 Guest Well, you will consciously repress any kind of experience that's threatened.

59:56 Drew Well, before the age of three, it's real difficult to remember stuff like this. This happened when you were very young, is that right?

1:00:01 Caller Yes, I think so.

1:00:03 Adam Well, again, you saw this document. What kind of document was it?

1:00:07 Caller I saw it a long time ago. It was like this notebook and it had like-

1:00:12 Drew Was it illegal?

1:00:12 Caller Mom documenting what I said and stuff, I guess.

1:00:15 Drew Was it a legal thing? A legal document?

1:00:17 Caller No, I don't think so.

1:00:19 Caller What they have is the doctor's office.

1:00:21 Drew Were you ever put in foster care or anything like that?

1:00:23 Caller No.

1:00:24 Drew Is your mom involved with other addicts? Any addicts?

1:00:27 Caller No, I don't think so.

1:00:28 Drew Was her dad an addict?

1:00:31 Caller No, he was a- I think he raped her, though.

1:00:35 Drew He raped her. It's sort of the typical pattern is then they will go get another child raped.

1:00:40 Guest Just a word of advice on this whole thing. What often happens to girls when they are molested, whether they are consciously aware of it or not, is that they compartmentalize their hearts and their bodies. They sort of say, look, I'm little, I can't protect myself, but you can have my body, but you'll never have my heart. Later, they go into these cavalier, casual relationships exhibiting a typical male sexual drive where they'll have two guys and they're almost trying to demonstrate through their sexual activity, I'm not vulnerable to anybody. I can play you guys off against each other. I can have sex with both of you. I'm impervious, I'm an island, I'm a rock. What you need to do is sew your body and your heart back together again. That's what's going to lead to wholesomeness. Basically, male genitalia is on the outside and a lot of guys treat sex like an out of body experience. I'm doing something to somebody else and they can take their emotions out of it. But the female genitalia on the inside, it's almost an invasion and you want to feel close and loving and trusting of the guy you're with. You really have to do some healing and that means reclaiming your innocence.

1:01:39 Adam Hey, Linda? Alright, so I do agree with the rabbi there. Now what are you going to do? The first guy's... I mean, alright, here's what I'm going to say, Linda, because we're spending too much time on this. Something bad happened to you, allegedly. You're certainly acting out on it now as if it did and can you just stop acting out?

1:02:01 Caller I mean... Alright, I don't know.

1:02:03 Adam No? Alright, can you not get pregnant then?

1:02:06 Caller Yes.

1:02:06 Adam You can do that?

1:02:07 Caller Get on the pill.

1:02:08 Adam Alright, please get on the pill.

1:02:09 Guest Can you come to our debate?

1:02:10 Adam Where are you calling from?

1:02:11 Caller I'm from Glombarney, Maryland.

1:02:13 Adam Oh, you're in Maryland. Alright, get on the pill. Please, just don't get pregnant.

1:02:17 Drew It's a five hour flight.

1:02:19 Adam Yeah, you can fly.

1:02:20 Drew Come on out here for the...

1:02:20 Adam Alright, listen, the rabbi gets the four bucks.

1:02:23 Guest No, I don't get the four bucks. Well, I borrowed a dollar from Drew.

1:02:27 Adam Well, that's true. He gets the... I got a dollar back. Are you paying you back? Yeah. Wait a minute, wait a minute. I lent the dollar to the rabbi. You lent the dollar to Larry. I'm taking that.

1:02:38 Guest Can I now do a deal where I offer the remaining three bucks to Larry for the watch? A little deal. I've thrown a signed autograph book as well.

1:02:46 Adam How much is that watch worth, Larry? Do you lease it or do you... This watch is about $100,000. I've got one that costs $750,000. I only wear on special occasions. I bought it at the PSJA factory in Geneva, Switzerland.

1:03:06 Drew I was one of the people who bought the watch.

1:03:07 Adam Five years ago. What are we, Chopped Liver? I went to the factory and I've seen them making this phenomenal watch, a huge diamond baguette and I asked about it and I said, well, this watch is being made for an Arab oil sheet. So I said, well, why don't you make it? Because they only make one of a kind. I said, well, when he finishes it, can he make me one?

1:03:41 Drew That's how wonderful the watch is.

1:03:43 Adam Amazing. 750K, huh?

1:03:46 Guest Impales third world debt.

1:03:47 Drew Jesus Christ.

1:03:49 Adam Michael?

1:03:49 Drew And Adam? He's garbage collectors. Come at 6.30 in the morning.

1:03:52 Adam Yeah, but he's so far away with his gate and his sprawling property, he doesn't hear them. I hear my garbage guys.

1:03:59 Drew 3P.

1:04:00 Adam Larry, what time does your mail show up? Do you know? I don't know. That's the beauty about being Larry, doesn't know when the mail shows up. Michael? Yeah. Hey, Larry, do you have any porno in the car I can have for the ride home? Yeah, sure. Okay, I got to the car. It's a little bit of a tradition. I call it the walk of shame. Michael?

1:04:22 Caller Yes.

1:04:23 Adam You're 16?

1:04:24 Caller Yes.

1:04:24 Adam All right, so what's that?

1:04:26 Caller First off, I wanted to say, what's up, Maymay's?

1:04:29 Adam That's my rap name, thank you.

1:04:31 Caller Yeah, that's my Maymayman name.

1:04:34 Drew Oh boy, smoke a little pot, Mike?

1:04:36 Caller No.

1:04:36 Drew Yeah?

1:04:36 Adam Really?

1:04:37 Caller Seriously, I don't.

1:04:38 Adam Okay. What's your question?

1:04:41 Caller Okay. My left testicle, it's really been in pain for the last couple of days, and it's been spreading to my lower left abdomen.

1:04:52 Drew There can be a lot of different things, but most seriously, it can be a torsion of the chest. It can twist, the blood supply can be cut off, it can necrose, die, and become a medical emergency.

1:05:04 Caller How does that happen?

1:05:05 Drew It just happens in some people's spontaneous. It can also be infections and things, and inflammation in that area. But the important thing is that a doctor looks at it as fast as possible.

1:05:13 Caller Yeah, because I'm going to the doctor tomorrow.

1:05:16 Drew If it gets severely painful during the night, you go to the emergency room, okay?

1:05:19 Caller Okay. Can I say one more thing?

1:05:22 Adam Yeah.

1:05:23 Caller Yeah.

1:05:24 Drew Adam?

1:05:25 Adam Yeah.

1:05:25 Caller Number one, you're a genius.

1:05:27 Adam Thank you.

1:05:27 Caller Number two, did you like a whack off to-

1:05:32 Adam Yes. I'm just going with yes. I'm playing a hunch here. Did I whack off to what?

1:05:37 Caller The tick from Save Ferris and her sister.

1:05:40 Adam No, I forgot to.

1:05:42 Caller You're right.

1:05:43 Adam I promised her I would.

1:05:44 Guest How do those two things go together, the genius statement and a whack off statement? Is there some intrinsic connection between them?

1:05:49 Adam I believe there is. As a matter of fact, it was funny. I was talking to Danny Ash who is a big boob queen. I was dealing with Larry in a fabulous Busty issue.

1:06:02 He is a big boob queen?

1:06:03 Adam Danny Ash is a female. Oh, oh, oh. Okay. She is this big internet, big top queen.

1:06:10 Drew You met her?

1:06:12 Adam I spoke to her over the phone on Friday. I was talking to her and I was talking to Larry's lovely wife Liz, I believe, about doing something with his publication for The Man Show, etc, etc.

1:06:25 Drew You are going back to the toilet thing again?

1:06:26 Adam Yes, I am going back to the toilet with Larry.

1:06:30 Drew You worked with him on Hugh Hefner, didn't work.

1:06:32 Adam Yes.

1:06:32 Drew It was magic.

1:06:33 Adam Don't worry though. Larry, I know where my real friends are. That will prove Hef didn't want me to do it, but Larry, Larry welcomes the good publicity I will bring to his publication. The thing I like about Larry is people don't know, they always think Hustler with Larry, but they don't think Busty, and many of the other I think 37 or so.

1:06:52 Drew Build-A-Screen, Yachting.

1:06:53 Adam Yes, Yachting, a bunch of computer magazines. So anyway, I was talking to Danny Ash, who's this Knockout blonde with a huge rack on her, about helping me out with this, and she said, that's fine, and she said I could log on to her website, and I needed to choose a screen name so that she could put it in her computer, so that I could log on for free because this is how she makes her money. And she said, what would your screen name be, or what would your code name be, and I said, I'm going to Jack Off, that would be my name, because every time I go on a computer, I mean, let's face it, and she said, well, it's too many words, so I said, IGJO and she went, IGJO it is.

1:07:35 Drew The first conversation she's had with this young lady.

1:07:37 Adam Right, so now everyone can just log on as a Jack Off. Yeah, I'm going to Jack Off, yeah, check that out. Thank you. Say I love the kids. Becky?

1:07:45 Drew Genius.

1:07:46 Adam Thank you. You're 15, what's up?

1:07:49 Caller I want to know if condoms worked in the water, like if you're going to have sex in a pool or jacuzzi or something, would they work?

1:08:00 Drew I've heard some concern about the heat in the jacuzzi after too long a period of time, but in general, there's no specific problem with the condom in the pool other than keeping it on.

1:08:09 Adam Yeah. Women's vagina is dirtier than any pool I've been in. Please. Thank you.

1:08:15 Caller Thank you.

1:08:15 Drew Becky, you're 15. Don't let them talk to you like that.

1:08:18 Adam Can't you guys just do it on a lounge chair? Do you have to get in the pool with the condom?

1:08:24 Caller I wasn't saying I was getting in the pool.

1:08:25 Guest I was just talking about a friend.

1:08:26 Drew You're 15. Just planning stages.

1:08:29 Adam I see. All right, Becky.

1:08:31 Drew Thank you.

1:08:32 Caller All right.

1:08:32 Adam Enjoy yourself.

1:08:34 Drew By the way, the show is called Loveline.

1:08:37 Guest Now, when are we going to get to the question about the love part?

1:08:40 Caller That's what I'm waiting for.

1:08:41 Guest There are two people saying, you know, a question about how we're going to fall in love, stay in love, how do we maintain passion, romance, and a relationship? How do I sweep a girl off her feet? Should I write her a poem? Should I pull a serenade to Bergerock outside her window? How am I going to make her swoon, make her melt or something?

1:08:59 Drew And it was kind of a question.

1:09:00 Adam Yeah. They don't draw the kind of numbers that's corn-holding questions. Amanda?

1:09:07 Caller I apologize.

1:09:08 Caller I have a question. When I masturbate, sometimes I bleed, but I don't do it.

1:09:13 I don't bleed all the time.

1:09:14 Drew That can be normal. Are you on a pill?

1:09:17 Caller No, I don't have sex or anything.

1:09:18 Drew Are you on medication or a pill?

1:09:20 Caller No.

1:09:20 Drew In the history of ovarian cysts or endometriosis?

1:09:23 Adam 17.

1:09:24 Drew Are your periods normal, regular?

1:09:28 Adam Are you using your hand or some barbecue equipment? No, just hand.

1:09:32 Drew Don't worry. It can be a normal thing. Sexually activity can stimulate bleeding in some moments.

1:09:35 Caller Okay. Thanks.

1:09:38 Adam I don't bleed when I masturbate, but the crucifix I have hanging on the wall, that'll bleed on occasion when I'm masturbating. Very eerie.

1:09:46 Drew Tears frequently.

1:09:47 Adam Tears. Constant tearing, but occasionally some bleeding about the ankle and wrist. All right. We're going to take ourselves a little break. Thank you. Larry's trustee bodyguard just ran out to the Bentley and grabbed me some pornography.

1:10:03 Guest On the subject of Larry's publications, we were discussing off air, all of us here in the studio, that there is this great sort of desire for-

1:10:11 Adam Asian fever. Is this one of your publications, Larry? You just have that floating around. No, it's one of my publications.

1:10:18 Guest I see. Wow. It says there is a desire also for intimacy. Larry, you're a businessman, you've been very successful. Are you going to come out with a magazine in which I would participate, a serious magazine also about relationships, giving advice to people that want to know how to, and all the questions that I get or people like Drew get?

1:10:32 Adam I'll tell you, all the demographics indicate and I believe me, I know I had 25 years not only in publishing but in magazine distribution business as well, and when I started in business 25 years ago, there was 1,500 magazines on the newsstand. Today, there's over 4,000 and everybody is buying for a full cover display where you can only have a few magazines on a given newsstand. So what the retailers will do is they will relegate you to obscurity unless your magazine is selling and the problem is although you have a good idea and there will be a market for it, the market is not large enough to really sustain you in the marketplace.

1:11:22 Guest Look at the... I'm the matchmaker in chief for these websites called matchnet.com, americansingles.com. One of the amazing things is, it's not just porn that's flourishing on the internet, it's matchmaking, people who really want to find a serious relationship.

1:11:34 Adam Right, so they can cornhole each other.

1:11:36 Guest Most of these sites are very serious. On americansingles.com, you can't be voyeuristic, there's no nude pictures or anything like that, and the market is huge.

1:11:44 Caller I mean match.com...

1:11:46 Adam Listen, I got three pages in the Hustler already, chick's taking a leak. There you go, I told you. All right, and I'm going to peruse Asian fever in the...

1:11:57 Guest So my serious relationship magazine died after five minutes, huh?

1:12:01 Adam Yeah.

1:12:02 Guest Larry, is it over?

1:12:03 Adam Yeah, it's been over. It has been over. All right, we will take ourselves a little break here. Larry Flynt is our guest, also Rabbi Shmuley.

1:12:14 Guest Adam, are you speaking around in the studio during the break or?

1:12:17 Adam No, I'll be going to the quiet serenity of the Westwood One bathroom with the Asian fever publication in hand. Drew, if I'm not back in time because I'm going for three, I'd like you to start the next segment. Okay? Fair enough? We'll be back.

1:12:32 Guest Back once again with it.

1:12:34 Drew Loveline, Dr. Drew, we'll be right back before you know it.

1:12:38 Adam This is Adam Corolla, this is Dr. Drew.

1:12:40 Drew They do more Loveline.

1:12:43 Caller Dr. Dr. Drew and your list is a loveline on the Zone 105.

1:13:00 Adam It is Loveline. Larry Flynt has something to say. What does that mean? I thought you were getting me over here for an hour. Oh, really? You want to go? You can leave after this break if you want.

1:13:13 Drew Leave?

1:13:13 Adam Yeah.

1:13:14 Drew You leave at 11 too, would you?

1:13:17 Adam Of course. Especially with Bentley waiting for you. Now that he's got his magazine, he should leave now. Oh, yeah. You could have left 10 minutes ago when your bodyguard dropped off this pornography. Well, Larry, if you don't mind because I know you're busy. We do appreciate you coming in here. Why don't you just ride out this last break about another 10 minutes and then we'll cut you loose, and the Rabbi is going to stay here and do the overnight.

1:13:43 Guest I haven't left.

1:13:44 Adam No, you're never going to leave.

1:13:45 Guest This is a little shrine, a little synagogue now.

1:13:47 Adam Jack? Yeah. You're 16. What's up?

1:13:50 Caller Yeah, I was wondering if there's any way to decrease your libido or stop masturbating.

1:13:56 Drew What's going on there?

1:13:58 Caller Well, I'm a Christian and I really don't like to masturbate. But I find that I can't really control myself.

1:14:05 Drew What are you actually down to, I guess we should say?

1:14:09 Caller Let's see. Well, it's about five times a week.

1:14:12 Adam Right. You're sure doing it a lot for something you don't like to do that much. Yeah.

1:14:17 Drew Well, this is the same thing for rabbi.

1:14:19 Adam Yeah.

1:14:19 Guest I mean, this is an issue, I think a lot of religious people or even people who just think that sexuality is something that should be repressed. Not repressed. I don't believe in sexual oppression at all, honestly, and I'm not part of a tradition that believes in sexual oppression. You believe in sexual expression.

1:14:34 Adam But you're not a fan of masturbation either, are you?

1:14:38 Guest Well, one of the things I quote in Kosher Sex is that an amazing statistic that husbands who masturbate in marriage have more arguments with their wives, which makes a lot of sense when you think about it because if you have a big argument with your wife, and often arguments lead to the best kind of sex because of the emotional distance that's been created and eroticism is always predicated on distance, you can either apologize to your wife and say you're sorry and make love and kiss and make up or you can go into the shower. So there's your choice. Often, masturbation becomes an excuse to avoid intimacy.

1:15:10 Drew To be 16.

1:15:10 Guest Right, right, right. Okay, obviously.

1:15:12 Adam How many wives do you have, Jack?

1:15:13 Drew 16.

1:15:14 Guest No, at 16 it's slightly different. This is what I would suggest. First of all, don't get hung up with guilt about the whole sex thing. What you can do is just keep your head involved in things that are always sexual.

1:15:25 Adam And remember, masturbation is not a crime.

1:15:28 Guest No, it's not. But he's also saying, I mean, when we... This is the perfect music for me. When I was studying to be a rabbi, one of the things that was very important to us was study. And there weren't a lot of girls around. We did not date. And sure, we thought about women. We were natural and human like anybody else. But we really tried to put our head into the books. We did not feel guilty about our desire or our lust. And we didn't see a little devil hiding behind all of it.

1:15:54 Drew He was saying he masturbated a lot when he was studying.

1:15:58 Guest There are two kinds of guys, they say, women deny they masturbate, the other one who...

1:16:04 Adam Those who masturbate and those who lie.

1:16:05 Guest That's right. But it is true that I felt that I could turn my head to pursuits that I felt were very important to me. And at the age of 16, it was the acquisition of knowledge. What I hear in all these questions that people are calling up about, and we discussed this off air as well, is that with all of these personal complications that people are calling in about, anal sex and oral sex and three boyfriends and three sons, for goodness sake, besides the sexual issues, the issue is where does anyone have time to study for goodness sake? When are you going to develop as a personality? The point is that adolescence is about the unfolding of your intellectual and emotional capacities. And if they are going to be stunted because all you are doing is putting up brush fires, if you become a forest ranger rather than a city planner, then you are not going to have the healthiest adulthood.

1:16:50 Drew Let me make a different point, though. If they have... He breathes. Yes, he breathes. I witnessed it.

1:16:56 Adam He takes a big shot off the oxygen tank during the commercial and then he exhales for 20 minutes.

1:17:03 Drew What about an argument that not masturbating would create such incredible tension that the guys can't concentrate?

1:17:09 Guest Yes. I am not sitting here. Look, I am a realist. So I am not sitting here saying, you know, turn yourself into a pillar of stone and never feel anything. What I am saying is, A, don't get guilt written about it, but you are asking, how can I reduce my obsession? And I am saying to you, everything is mental. I believe that our principal sexual organ is our mind and not our genitals. So keep your mind on the subjects which you feel are worthwhile at your age.

1:17:34 Adam I am going to tell him how to do it. Take the pressure off yourself with the religious stuff. He is obsessing about it. When you obsess, you do more. It is like picking at a scab or something. You have a zit on your forehead. You say, don't pick at it. Then you start focusing on it. Then you start focusing on not messing with it. Next thing you know, you are messing with it.

1:17:54 Drew Or the food. Dieting is another thing.

1:17:57 Adam I am dieting. I am eating. Yes, dieting is a great and rare good example brought up by my partner, Dr. Drew. The way you lose weight is you sort of forget about it but you don't dwell on it and that is what Jack is doing. So Jack, ironically enough named Jack, don't think about it so much and don't freak yourself out and I bet it will level out.

1:18:17 Guest The alternative is to get married at 16 and lose all interest in sex.

1:18:20 Adam There you go. Aliza?

1:18:22 Caller Ta-dum-dum. Aliza?

1:18:24 Adam Hello?

1:18:25 Caller There you go.

1:18:26 Adam You are 19.

1:18:26 Caller Thank you.

1:18:27 Adam Never make the rabbi wait on a rim shot. Go ahead, Aliza.

1:18:32 Drew I beg your pardon?

1:18:33 Caller I want to say it is a relief to have someone else vent besides Adam on the radio.

1:18:37 Adam The rabbi is a good talker.

1:18:39 Caller Hi, Dr. Drew.

1:18:40 Adam Hi, Aliza.

1:18:42 Caller I was talking to my friend last night and we were arguing about she was saying that if you are giving oral sex to a guy, there is a small chance that you will get pregnant. I was telling her, it is totally impossible.

1:18:55 Drew It is totally impossible. Is she 19 years old also?

1:18:58 Caller Yes.

1:18:59 Drew I want to know how she conceived of it even as a possibility.

1:19:03 Guest The Tooth Fairy told her, I am sure.

1:19:05 Caller Yes, I was telling her because I was saying maybe there is a small chance you get like an STD or something.

1:19:11 Drew Yes, you can get STDs that way and the chances aren't that small, frankly, but no, you are not going to get pregnant.

1:19:17 Caller Yes.

1:19:18 Caller All right.

1:19:19 Caller Okay, thanks.

1:19:20 Caller All right.

1:19:20 Adam You are 19 years old by the way.

1:19:23 Caller Yes.

1:19:23 Adam All right.

1:19:24 Caller She is.

1:19:24 Drew The other one was 19 too.

1:19:26 Adam Yes, I know, but you are calling to sort of check out the story.

1:19:31 Drew Lisa is the sound of wisdom.

1:19:32 Caller She is.

1:19:32 Drew Right.

1:19:33 Adam All right there.

1:19:34 Drew Thanks you guys.

1:19:35 Adam Thank you. I am on hold for that one everybody. Susie. Yes. You are 21. What's up?

1:19:41 Guest Yes, I am.

1:19:43 Drew Hold on a second.

1:19:44 Caller I start to do dishes until I heard you guys come back.

1:19:47 Guest I am glad that we are sort of really engaging you over there.

1:19:51 Drew We keep our callers riveted.

1:19:53 Guest I have been wanting to ask this for a long time. Pot and birth control pills, it's bad mix, but what are the effects?

1:20:01 Guest You can have a high kid.

1:20:02 Drew Well, I wondered if it affects the effectiveness of the birth control pill, and I don't know that it does. I have been looking for some data.

1:20:10 Adam You would have heard of it if it did.

1:20:11 Drew Yeah, although, you know, we do hear these people. I have not seen any pattern to suggest that it really affects the effectiveness of the birth control pill, though just about anything can, so it makes sense to me that it might.

1:20:22 Guest I'm so glad that you are answering this question.

1:20:24 Drew In terms of, well, I'm telling you that I don't know of any evidence that it does. And secondly, in terms of any adverse physical effects, no, there is no synergistic or additive effect of the two together. Each one has their own potential problem. Okay?

1:20:39 Adam Okay. All right. All right, Susie. So keep smoking that weed.

1:20:43 Drew I like it. Yeah. Thanks. You're so hostile. Yeah.

1:20:45 Adam Hey, Susie.

1:20:46 Caller Yes.

1:20:47 Adam Listen, we're sorry we took time out of your busy goddamn day to answer your crappy question. You need to clear up your attitude a little.

1:20:54 Drew Oh, I'm sorry.

1:20:55 Adam All right. Thank you.

1:20:57 Guest That was a light, a light reprimand.

1:20:58 Adam That was a light.

1:21:00 Guest That's the loving.

1:21:00 Adam All right, Susie. Get back, get back to the double way.

1:21:03 Guest You know, well, you know what? I have a lot of other things that I would like to go over, but I don't know how much time you guys have or how much you like to invest.

1:21:08 Adam Well, if we like you better, we might address another question, but we're not fond of you.

1:21:12 Drew We'll give her one more. Just for fun.

1:21:13 Caller All right.

1:21:14 Drew One more.

1:21:14 Adam Forgiveness.

1:21:15 Caller Where's your Christian love?

1:21:17 Drew There you go.

1:21:18 Guest I'm lost.

1:21:19 Adam Do you have another question?

1:21:23 Guest She expects great things in this question.

1:21:25 Guest Well, you guys usually, I don't know, I have things listed that you guys usually ask when you ask other people.

1:21:31 Drew We know you have that history.

1:21:32 Guest I'm sorry?

1:21:33 Drew We know you got some stuff going on.

1:21:35 Adam Right. By the way, you have an ambulance driving through your living room. We know that's not a good sign.

1:21:39 Guest Yes.

1:21:40 Adam All right, Susie.

1:21:42 Guest What the Rabbi said about heart and body, that they need to become rock and be wholesome, that speaks to me.

1:21:49 Adam You've been abused.

1:21:51 Guest I like that.

1:21:51 Adam Susie, you were abused?

1:21:53 Guest Yes.

1:21:53 Adam Yes. Because it's weird because, and listen, I'm sorry for coming down on you, especially since you've been the victim of abuse. But you can get, even when you're being nice, there's a little hostility in your voice.

1:22:08 Drew That we pick up on it.

1:22:10 Guest Yes, you're defensive. Who can blame you?

1:22:12 Adam A little bit angry and I'm guessing a man did you wrong at some point with this abuse when you're younger and it's in you. I mean, you can feel it on you. If someone has never spoken to you before. Always. Yeah. What happened?

1:22:29 Guest Yeah, Pat. It was my mom's fiance.

1:22:32 Adam Oh boy.

1:22:32 Guest Yeah. I was seven years old when he left. It happened for two years.

1:22:37 Drew Two years.

1:22:38 Guest I would love to find him. I'm sorry. I would like to find this man. I look him in the eye and ask him why. But I know that there's no way.

1:22:49 Guest But you see so long.

1:22:50 Guest I would understand. There's no way I would understand his way of thinking because I know what's wrong.

1:22:53 Drew Well, he was probably abused.

1:22:56 Adam You can take a certain amount of satisfaction in knowing that either he was abused or he has a brain tumor.

1:23:02 Guest I have family members that have also been abused by different people. My biggest thing is that you see these people have family functions.

1:23:11 Adam But what about your family? The Adam family moved out of the neighborhood.

1:23:19 Caller We are part of the Capital Dysfunction.

1:23:21 Adam Hold on. You have a fire engine going down your entry hall now.

1:23:25 Guest We have a fire station, three houses.

1:23:27 Adam No kidding. Hey, who is it?

1:23:30 Caller Listen, baby.

1:23:32 Guest I'm sorry.

1:23:33 Caller That's all right.

1:23:34 Adam Listen to me. What about your mom? Are you angry at your mom for bringing this world class A hole home?

1:23:41 Guest No.

1:23:42 Adam Why not? I mean, I know you're angry at him and you should be angry at him, but there are A holes all over the place. She found this guy and brought him home to you.

1:23:50 Guest Mom didn't know.

1:23:51 Guest Mom would probably want to be in a long-term relationship.

1:23:54 Caller I know.

1:23:54 Guest I hate mom.

1:23:55 Caller I hate mom because she just kicked him out.

1:23:59 Guest She didn't say anything.

1:24:00 Adam All right. Hey. She didn't come home.

1:24:02 Guest It happened to her and she never came home.

1:24:04 Drew Of course. Of course.

1:24:04 Caller That's the pattern.

1:24:05 Adam Hey, Susie.

1:24:06 Guest Yes.

1:24:06 Adam Stay on that birth control, baby.

1:24:08 Caller Well, please.

1:24:10 Adam You don't have any kids, do you?

1:24:11 Guest I do. I have horses. No, check this out. I brag about this girl.

1:24:15 Adam I know you brag about her.

1:24:17 Drew Don't bring any predators around. Don't bring any guys around here. Because any guys you bring around are going to be predators. Seriously.

1:24:21 Adam If you get a dog from the pound, he's going to hump this kid. I don't trust your judgment. Her father what?

1:24:26 Guest Her father is still around.

1:24:27 Adam No.

1:24:28 Drew Not alone with her. Not alone with her, Susie. Swear to God. Anybody you pick, just be careful.

1:24:34 Guest I'm trying to be, but it's like-

1:24:35 Adam What kind of guy is her father?

1:24:38 Drew How much of an addict is he?

1:24:40 Guest Oh, he's not an addict.

1:24:41 Adam What is he?

1:24:42 Guest He's older and is still at home.

1:24:45 Adam Still at home. All right. Good. Hey, Susie.

1:24:47 Guest Is he a responsible father? Does he support your daughter?

1:24:49 Guest Financially, he's being made responsible. He doesn't see her. We've had that agreement.

1:24:53 Adam Beautiful. All right, Susie. Don't leave him alone with it. No more kids, please.

1:24:56 Guest Oh, I'm trying not to. Okay, good.

1:24:58 Adam And hey, Susie, Susie, you love your kid so much, you can't be high all the time around her. Stop smoking the weed. Get off the weed.

1:25:05 Caller Don't escape your pain.

1:25:06 Guest And you had just said that your mother never said anything.

1:25:09 Adam You have a need for a release.

1:25:11 Guest You need an emotional release. An emotional escape is not going to provide that release.

1:25:14 Drew And an intoxicated parent is an abandoning parent. The child experiences it that way.

1:25:19 Adam Well, the good news is if she ever falls asleep smoking a joint bed, the fire department, which drives to her house every 10 minutes, will quickly extinguish the flame. You know what I was saying to someone the other day? How come you never hear about people falling asleep with a lit cigarette and lighting a mattress on fire anymore?

1:25:36 Drew That was a long time.

1:25:37 Adam It does not happen like it used to happen. It used to happen all the time. I mean, it was always-

1:25:44 Drew People don't smoke cigarettes much.

1:25:46 Adam You would read the newspaper and it'd be like, what happened? Why did the apartment building burn down? Guy fell asleep smoking a cigarette.

1:25:53 Drew It was always some stories about a guy falling asleep smoking.

1:25:56 Adam No one falls asleep smoking anymore.

1:25:58 Guest People don't watch TV anymore. They channel surf. They can't fall. They're always pushing the remote.

1:26:03 Adam I long for a simpler time when people burn down casinos and apartments and other buildings, falling asleep. I got something funnier than the burning bed.

1:26:14 Drew That's all.

1:26:15 Adam This was on the Reuters wire service the other day. This woman was in bed with this jockey and her husband comes in. So she convinces him to get out of the bed. Her husband is a really huge guy. So they start having sick for the bed, collapses on them, kills the jockey, no, but breaks his nose, you know, hurts him real bad.

1:26:45 Drew We had to go to the hospital.

1:26:46 Adam I thought that was pretty funny. That's a good story.

1:26:50 Guest That story proves that there's a God. That's what Larry is saying. That was divine punishment. It was retribution.

1:26:55 Adam All right. Larry Flynt is going to get out of here. He's stayed 44 minutes longer than he wanted to. I want to correct one thing that I said earlier about Robert Shearer, who's moderating the debate tomorrow. He's a professor from USC, not UCLA. Oh, I said that one. I see. All right.

1:27:16 Guest Debates tomorrow night, 730 p.m. That is duly noted.

1:27:18 Adam USC is a much worse academic school than UCLA. Thank you for that correction, Larry. Larry Flynt, thank you very much for coming in. When all you kids go out there, get yourself a subscription to Yachting or a computer or a wild China woman, whatever strikes your fancy. You know, my 32 magazines, I published my second largest selling magazine as a magazine called Tips and Tricks with the average reading age is boys of 15 years. It's a computer gaming magazine. Oh, really? It's the largest one in the country. And that's number two and number three is Yachting Rabbis. Next to us, it's the most profitable. People never mention that because when they write stories about me, they're only interested in mentioning us. Well, I always explain that you have all those publications, but I'm only interested in Busty. We have to take ourselves a break. I'm guessing the rabbi will hang out.

1:28:17 Guest We have to announce our debate, 730, the hard night.

1:28:20 Adam There you go. It's about to say that, rabbi. And we'll be back after this.

1:28:24 Caller We've got some more fun. Okay.

1:28:35 Adam This is Adam Carolla.

1:28:36 Drew This is Dr. Drew. Stay tuned for more Loveline on the Zone 105.

1:28:40 Adam This is Adam Carolla.

1:28:42 Drew This is Dr. Drew.

1:28:43 Adam And you're listening to Loveline on the Zone 105. It's Loveline and Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Larry Flynt is rolled out of the building and into the Bentley, and the Rabbi is still left behind. Again, the big debate tomorrow night, 7.30, Wilshire Theatre. Bring the kids. And we'll hop back on the phones, Kavi.

1:29:16 Guest Hey.

1:29:17 Adam You're 23 years old.

1:29:19 Guest Yep.

1:29:20 Adam You're obsessed with your schizo-alcoholic boyfriend.

1:29:24 Guest I'm not obsessed, but I've got issues. I don't know how to handle.

1:29:29 Caller Basically, I met him.

1:29:31 Guest He seemed normal. We started dating. I realized he was not so normal. On a weekly basis, he changes his mind whether or not he wants the relationship.

1:29:40 Drew And so why do you hang in?

1:29:41 Guest I don't know. I'll be done with them. I'll block them from calling me. I will brace myself and say, I am too good of a mind to handle this from somebody.

1:29:54 Drew I guess the dad that was alcoholic and came and left the family.

1:29:58 Adam Where is your dad?

1:29:59 Guest My dad is in Indiana somewhere and I hope he stays.

1:30:04 Adam There it is. There it is. He is not an alcoholic.

1:30:07 Guest He didn't abandon me. He and my mom were married for years and years and years before my mom passed away.

1:30:13 Caller He did abuse me.

1:30:14 Drew He did abuse you?

1:30:15 Guest He did.

1:30:16 Drew In what way? Didn't you just say he didn't abuse me?

1:30:19 Adam I thought you just said he didn't abuse you.

1:30:21 Drew No, he didn't.

1:30:22 Guest He's not an alcoholic. He didn't abandon me, but he was abusive.

1:30:26 Adam Well, he wanted you around so he could do things to you.

1:30:29 Guest Exactly.

1:30:29 Adam What did he do to you?

1:30:31 Guest Well, to make a long story short, every night that my mom was in the hospital dying, he would come into my bedroom and make me perform oral sets on him.

1:30:39 Adam Perfectly normal, perfectly healthy.

1:30:41 Guest How did I know you were going to say that?

1:30:42 Adam Part of the grieving process. Please. How dare you accuse him of being a bad father.

1:30:48 Guest I'm doing okay. I've cut off all ties with him.

1:30:50 Adam All right. Good. Kathy?

1:30:52 Drew He was using no substances at the time?

1:30:54 Guest No.

1:30:54 Adam Oh, please. How?

1:30:56 Guest He's older. He's like 72.

1:30:58 Adam Listen to me. Listen to me.

1:31:00 Guest Yeah.

1:31:00 Adam You can. How old were you at the time?

1:31:03 Guest Well, my mom passed away when I was 19. The first time she was hospitalized, I was 14. So it went on for a good five years.

1:31:09 Adam Five years. How is it that you go in and get oral sex from your own daughter and not at least have a few shots of booze in you?

1:31:16 Caller Because he's sick and twisted.

1:31:19 Guest That's what I tried to tell you before. Freud thought that all these women were lying to him, that they were fantasizing about their fathers, but they weren't.

1:31:27 Drew We know how common it is.

1:31:28 Adam Oh, my God.

1:31:30 Drew But the fact that she has chosen a severe alcohol leads us to believe this thing.

1:31:35 Guest Here's the thing. This is it in a nutshell. I didn't believe he was an alcoholic. My brother was an alcoholic. I witnessed it.

1:31:42 Drew Well, now wait a minute.

1:31:44 Adam Was your mother an alcoholic?

1:31:45 Drew No.

1:31:47 Adam Dad was a boozer.

1:31:48 Drew He has to be because the gene has to come from somewhere.

1:31:51 Guest But I've never once seen my parents drink in my whole life.

1:31:54 Drew Never seen them use alcohol.

1:31:56 Guest And I came from a nuclear family. I mean, I never once saw my dad abuse a substance at all.

1:32:01 Guest Well, then deal with Adam's question. Weren't you surprised when your father came in while your mother was ill?

1:32:06 Adam And demanded this?

1:32:07 Guest And what was your reaction?

1:32:09 Adam Was this his normal behavior?

1:32:11 Guest Did you ask him for an explanation?

1:32:12 Caller Did you resist him?

1:32:14 Guest Oh, yeah, I resisted him, of course. But I was shocked. I never thought it would happen. I mean, I was always like my mom's child. My dad kind of resented me for that. I was a spoiled brat growing up. I was the overachiever in school, and my dad resented that for some reason.

1:32:27 Adam So for five years, he went into your room for oral sex.

1:32:32 Guest He scared me into keeping it secret. I just now came clean with it about a year ago.

1:32:38 Adam He came into your room for oral sex for five years.

1:32:41 Guest Only when she was in the hospital, but it would be a nightly thing while she was in the hospital. When she was in the hospital, when she finally died, she got up to the point where she was in the hospital a couple of times a month.

1:32:50 Adam I could just see your mom going, I feel a spell coming on and you're going, Christ, you know.

1:32:56 Guest My mother was an angel. If she were around, she would have stopped this.

1:33:00 Adam But hold on.

1:33:01 Guest She never suspected anything?

1:33:02 Drew She brought this guy in.

1:33:03 Guest No. Well, I have two older sisters and according to him, nobody would have ever believed what I said because he raised two girls before me. They were not abused.

1:33:14 Adam All right. You never told your mom this?

1:33:17 Drew No.

1:33:19 Guest My mom was a buffer between my father and I.

1:33:22 Adam I know, but listen, how can mom be an angel when she marries the devil? I never believe that. I know she has something to do with it. Someone is boozing. Something happened to mom. Well, who cares? The point is if you pick a guy, we don't like him and especially if he is a schizoid drunk.

1:33:39 Drew This is why you can't give it up. Go to break up. Yeah, you got to stop this.

1:33:42 Guest Let me just understand. How should someone make her find someone? She can't trust her own daughter.

1:33:48 Adam Open the phone book and throw it at a fan.

1:33:51 Drew Yeah, she can't.

1:33:52 Adam Really?

1:33:52 Drew First of all, if she is really attracted, not good.

1:33:55 Adam Yeah, if she is doing an overwhelming attraction to a man, that is bad news.

1:33:59 Drew That is reparative. She is trying to repair something with that. But try to be a little more objective about guys, looking for guys that are going to be very slow with relationships.

1:34:08 Guest Should she employ the use of a third party?

1:34:09 Drew Yeah, sure.

1:34:11 Adam It's a fourth and fifth party. A nice Jewish boy would work. Good matchmaker. We'll take a break.

1:34:22 Drew Loveline, we'll be right back.

1:34:24 Adam This is Adam Carolla.

1:34:25 Drew This is Dr. Drew. Stay tuned for more Loveline on the Zone 105.

1:34:28 Adam This is Adam Carolla.

1:34:29 Drew And this is Dr. Drew.

1:34:31 Adam And you're listening to Loveline on the Zone 105. All right. Hey. This is Dr. Drew and I have a rabbi, Rabbi Schmuley Boteach.

1:34:52 Drew How about that?

1:34:52 Guest You probably ran out of fun by now.

1:34:54 Adam I did. Say my name. Thanks for coming in again, rabbi. We'll see you next week.

1:34:58 Drew Come on.

1:35:00 Adam Everyone, go check out the rabbi and the pornographer, Lock and Antlers and the Lock and Horns and Yarmulkes over at the Fabulous Wilshire Theatre in Beverly Hills. That's tomorrow at 7.30.

1:35:15 Guest Or you can follow it on BeliefNet.

1:35:17 Adam Or you can follow it on BeliefNet.

1:35:18 Guest You can read my stuff on americansingles.com and jj.com, which are Jewish and mainstream dating venues, and people who want serious relationships.

1:35:28 Adam Thank you.

1:35:28 Guest A brief story, a happy ending.

1:35:29 Adam Thank you, rabbi. We'll see you soon, and again, thanks for showing up.

1:35:33 Caller I'll let you guys into my studio.

1:35:34 Adam Thank you. Until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:35:39 Drew Well, I'm having anal sex with my boyfriend, and he wants to go all the way with me.

1:35:44 Adam Well now, this is Adam Loveline.

1:35:46 Drew The stuff expressed on Loveline is not necessarily the stuff of the staff, the management, sponsors, or anyone else, including Westwood One Entertainment. Loveline is produced by Anne Wilkins Engel. Now, please enjoy these birds.

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