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Loveline

Sunday, February 25, 2001

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Guests: Emily Procter with Stryker

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1:02 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, coast to coast.
1:13 Drew Hey, it is Loveline. I'm Dr. Drew. And I'd like to announce with a great sense of relief and gratitude, I'm here with my friend Stryker, as Adam Corolla is absent tonight. And thank you, Stryker, for filling in for him.
1:24 Stryker It's my pleasure of filling in anytime.
1:26 Voiceover The phone number here is Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. And the fax number, we have returned to the old fax line of 310-854-4455. And Stryker is someone who is, maybe those of you that follow Loveline carefully have heard him here with me before. And those of you that are part of the Los Angeles audience know him very well from K-Rock. And those of you from the rest of the country, I bet will, I believe by the end of the year, everyone will know you. That's my prediction.
1:51 Stryker Thank you very much.
1:52 Drew More television, more radio or something. You're just about ready to...
1:55 Adam Your new movie part.
1:56 Drew What's that?
1:56 Stryker That's right, your new movie role.
1:59 Stryker Drew, are you hitting on me?
2:00 Stryker No, no, I'm just kidding.
2:02 I'm so grateful that Adam's not here.
2:04 Stryker You'll say anything to whoever's sitting in this seat.
2:06 Drew No, no, no, I'm actually, I'm glad you're here.
2:08 Stryker Thank you, I'm so happy to be back. Drew and I have done this at least 10 times now together.
2:13 Drew Let's just say it doesn't.
2:14 Stryker All right, we'll say it doesn't, that's good. And I'm excited also, not because of Dr. Drew. Emily Procter is here, hello there.
2:20 Adam Are you hitting on me?
2:21 Stryker Possibly, I don't know, maybe.
2:24 Adam It's a round robin, I'll hit on Dr. Drew.
2:25 Stryker Okay, Christ, I'm gonna have to ask you, at least go towards me and then Dr. Drew after that. Okay, you may know Emily Procter from the West Wing, which is just doing so well.
2:36 Adam I know, can you believe it? It's just such an amazing group of people. I'm glad that it's a success, cause they're all so nice.
2:43 Stryker Did you know from the get go was gonna be huge?
2:45 Adam Well, I actually just came on in the second season, so I actually went from being a fan to being someone who's on the show, which makes it a whole different ball game, cause I keep, you know, expecting them to come and yank me off the stage. They're like, oh no, we were fanatically some 23.
3:00 Stryker Did they put you through the whole audition process? You got the casting and the producers, directors, the whole night.
3:05 Adam The whole thing, four times.
3:06 Stryker And what happened when they said, all right, Emily, you're on.
3:09 Adam Oh my God. Well, I had gone in and auditioned early in the morning and then went home and sat by my phone for the entire day and kept repeatedly calling my manager and saying he knew something and he said, I don't know anything. I'm like, you know, you know that I didn't get it and you won't tell me. And finally at eight o'clock, they called me and said that I had gotten it. And I just cried. I have to be honest. I was just so happy to have that part. Right.
3:33 Stryker I was, you know, that's a huge show, but I would think you were on the Dukes of Hazzard reunion show.
3:38 Adam I was.
3:39 Stryker That had to be just the, that was better than the West Wing. Hanging out at the boar's nest with Daisy Doo.
3:43 Adam Oh, it was awesome. It was a childhood dream.
3:45 Stryker Did you get to go on the General Lee?
3:47 Adam Totally. And I got a little raving for this and I'll say it again. For the first two days that I worked on the show, they had me convinced that the doors at the General Lee didn't open. Right. And so I had to climb in and out of the doors and I was pretty embarrassed.
4:00 Stryker Did you do the hood slide and then go through the window?
4:02 Adam Yeah. No.
4:04 Stryker Now whenever I say hood slide, that means I'm hitting and then you go to Dr. Drew.
4:08 Adam I'll slide over to that group.
4:09 Stryker You ready to answer questions about love and sex?
4:11 Adam I will do my best.
4:12 Stryker Just pipe in whenever you want and I won't call anyone an idiot tonight. And we'll do that last time. No.
4:18 Drew Oh, I mean, cause Adam's not here. There'll be no, yeah. No degradation.
4:21 Stryker It has to be love.
4:22 Drew I understand.
4:22 Stryker Let's screwball all the listeners, the idiots. 1-800-LOVE-191 is a number and we're going to speak to Jimmy who's 15. You there?
4:29 Stryker Yeah.
4:30 Stryker What's going on, man?
4:31 Stryker I was just wondering how I could tell my mom that because she thinks I'm weird like me and my brothers and...
4:40 Drew Spit it out there, Jimmy. What's the deal?
4:42 Stryker Um, just how I could tell her that I'm gay and that I'm not joking around.
4:47 Drew Have you tried to tell her before?
4:49 Stryker Yeah.
4:49 Drew And what does she... how does she react?
4:51 Stryker She just don't think I'm telling the truth. You know, she just thinks I'm joking around.
4:55 Drew Why do you care? If she can't accept it, if she's not willing to deal with it, that's her.
5:01 Stryker You told her. I just want to know. I just want her to know and everything and then...
5:08 Drew Well, you've told her, Jimmy. She can't deal with it for whatever reason. She's unwilling to deal with it. And that's her business. That's her feelings. You need to build up a supportive network of your own friends. Thank God she wasn't at least hostile or degrading.
5:20 Adam Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
5:22 Drew But you know, this is just as damn... it's just as painful to not have your parents acknowledge who you really are. But that parents do that kind of stuff all the time. Your job is to develop a network of friends who are also gay, who have been through what you've been through and get some support for this such that as you get out of the house and push this a little further, really get her to accept who in fact you are, you'll have a support network to do that with. But don't push that right now when you're out.
5:46 Stryker Yeah, because my oldest brother, he doesn't want anything to do with me, neither does my step dad or anything.
5:52 Drew Because you're gay?
5:54 Stryker Yeah.
5:54 Drew You see how awful it can be? You need support for this.
5:58 Stryker Jimmy, how do you know you're gay? Have you been with a guy before?
6:01 Stryker Yeah.
6:01 Stryker Oh, you have?
6:02 Stryker Yeah.
6:02 Stryker You're positive you're gay?
6:03 Stryker Yeah.
6:04 Stryker You're only 15 and you know it?
6:05 Stryker Yeah.
6:06 Stryker All right.
6:07 Adam Well, and the thing that I was going to say is I think that you deserve a big pat on your own back from yourself for being open and honest and feeling comfortable enough to come out about it.
6:15 Stryker Yeah, because I just, like, when I started telling everybody, I just, like, I felt much better about it.
6:22 Drew Well, but Jimmy, I'm glad you're saying other people, but again, people react in ways that can be unpredictable and you need a set of very supportive, connected friends you can trust. That's more important than anything. And 15 year olds that insist on telling their parents about being gay are giving a little F-U to the parents. Right. So those are parents that we got, were abusive at one time, I guarantee it.
6:41 Stryker Jimmy, find some more of your gay friends and hang out with them and you'll feel better. And at the right time, I'm sure your mom will come around. Jason, you're 20, you're on Loveline.
6:49 Hi, I'm Dr. Drew.
6:51 Drew Stryker.
6:52 Stryker.
6:52 Stryker And Emily.
6:53 And Emily. Hi. I have two questions. One question is, my girlfriend has a arthritis I can't, I can't find. It starts with an R. Rheumatoid. Thank you. And we're talking about gaining birth control. And I was wondering, will birth control affect her medicine that she's on now?
7:09 Drew Is she on, what, Prednisone or Methotrexate, something like that?
7:11 What is she on? I honestly couldn't tell you. I know she takes stuff like Vicodin now.
7:15 Drew Oof, Ouch. Well, listen, rheumatoid arthritis, very serious, destructive, erosive disease of the joints. And it's more that the birth control could be affected by some of the medicines she's on than the other way around. But she should be able to find something effective and she needs to work with a rheumatologist on that.
7:33 Okay. And my second question was the one that was on your thing.
7:37 Stryker My thing, it's right on my thing.
7:39 Drew Father who was a cop abused him and his mom.
7:42 Yeah, since she was 16, she was abused.
7:45 Stryker By your dad?
7:46 Yeah.
7:46 Drew And she stayed with him?
7:48 Yeah, she wanted to, this is true, I don't want you to think I'm joking you or anything. She beat her when, he beat her when she was pregnant with me and so on.
7:57 Drew Nice. So you had to witness all this growing up?
8:00 I didn't witness it. I heard it until I was 17.
8:03 Drew Well, that's witnessing.
8:04 And my mom finally came out and told me.
8:07 Drew You mean you didn't know what you were hearing?
8:09 Stryker I did, but I didn't want to believe it.
8:11 And one day, they got into a huge fight and they're upstairs and this is when the day after that she told me and he forced us all out with a gun.
8:19 Stryker Oh, where is he now?
8:20 Adam I'm so sorry.
8:22 We didn't press charges. I've left him out of my life.
8:25 Drew So you're not an alcoholic?
8:26 Nope.
8:26 Drew You sure?
8:27 Yeah, he doesn't drink at all.
8:29 Stryker He doesn't, so he's gone out of your life now?
8:32 I hate to say it, but I use him for money.
8:35 Stryker Use him for something.
8:36 Drew That's interesting. That's interesting that you can do that.
8:40 I don't want to break all connection with him. I mean, he's still my father, but that night, the May before, I went away to school.
8:48 Drew So you're in college now?
8:50 I was away for a moment and came back.
8:53 Drew Why?
8:54 Bad grades.
8:56 Drew Why don't you get focused on yourself? Making sure you develop a life separate from them so you're not dependent on them for anything.
9:02 I don't depend on them for anything. I have a job.
9:04 Drew You do?
9:05 Stryker Because you ask your dad who beat your mom for money all the time.
9:09 That's true.
9:11 Drew You have a job, Jason?
9:13 Stryker Where do you work at?
9:14 I have a government job. I work for the, I'm an assessor, field deputy.
9:19 Drew Is that what you want to be the rest of your life?
9:20 No, I'm in for business management.
9:22 Drew All right, well focus on your grades and get focused on you. Is your mom okay right now?
9:28 She moved on. She's dating.
9:30 Drew She's going to find another abuser, Jason, unless she gets some treatment for what she's been through.
9:34 She's tried to go to counseling every once in a while. I've been trying to go, but it's not working so well for me.
9:39 Drew When you're ready, go, but she needs to go before she, unless she finds another abusive a-hole, because she will find one or he will find her.
9:47 Stryker Being 20, Jason, you just need to stick with your job, your schooling, and move on, and try to forget about your dad if you can. So 1-800-LOVE-191 is the number. Emily Proctor is here from The West Wing. For everyone out there that knows the show, which character are you?
10:01 Adam I play Ainsley Hayes, the Republican addition to the White House staff.
10:05 Stryker How do you get along with Martin?
10:07 Adam Oh, he's great. He's fantastic.
10:09 Stryker Is he like the Big Daddy on the set?
10:11 Adam Yeah, you know, everyone has a very specific role, I think, but it's a very well put together team. There's not a lot of ego. Everyone's really great. Martin is, his politics are his own, and he definitely makes them heard, but he does put his money where his mouth is. He's a very magnanimous person.
10:30 Stryker He certainly is, and if I see him, boy, will I hit on him. I'm kidding, Marty. All right, Autumn, you're 15 on Loveline. Hello there.
10:38 Stryker Hi.
10:38 Stryker Hi.
10:39 Stryker Okay, I'm sorry, but I lied about my question.
10:43 Drew All right, what is your question?
10:44 Stryker Okay, first of all, I love you so much.
10:47 Stryker I'm like, you're everywhere, on my binders, on my books.
10:50 Drew Who, Stryker?
10:51 Stryker What?
10:52 Drew Stryker? No, Dr. Drew.
10:54 Emily Procter with Stryker No, no.
10:54 Stryker Adam.
10:55 Drew Oh, me? Me and Adam. Me and Adam.
10:58 Emily Procter with Stryker I love you.
10:58 Drew Well, Adam's not here tonight.
11:00 Emily Procter with Stryker Where is he?
11:01 Drew He's in New Orleans, I think.
11:04 Stryker Listen, screwball, get rid of the binder.
11:06 Drew He's on my shoes. Adam, I thank you and it means we've truly arrived when we were on a 15-year-old's shoes. But listen, he's down in New Orleans doing something for the Man Show.
11:18 Stryker Oh, really?
11:19 Drew Yeah.
11:19 Stryker Yeah, that Man Show. He's doing the Man Show. You're doing the Venus and Venus Williams thing.
11:24 Drew Man from Mars.
11:26 Stryker That's the tennis player.
11:27 Drew I don't forsake my responsibilities on radio because of a daytime television show.
11:32 Stryker I did hear Dr. Bruce in last week though.
11:34 Drew But that was, I was traveling. I wasn't working on a damn television show. That was the Michael Jackson thing.
11:40 Stryker All right.
11:41 Stryker Michael Jackson. Hey Rich.
11:43 Stryker Yeah?
11:43 Stryker In New York, you're 15, man. What's up?
11:47 Stryker Oh, I've been going out with my girlfriend for like two months now. I've known her for like five years, but her mom is like insane.
11:56 Drew Hey Rich, I have a question before you go on. Are we on WNEW at 11 o'clock now?
12:01 Stryker I don't know. I don't even know what station you're on anymore. My friend gave me the number.
12:06 Drew Nice.
12:07 Stryker You spent like Z100.
12:08 Drew Well, now we're on WNEW.
12:10 Stryker You know Mike Piazza?
12:12 Stryker Not personally.
12:12 Stryker Okay. If you did, tell him I said hi.
12:14 Drew Where do you live exactly?
12:15 Stryker In Douglasden, in Queens.
12:17 Drew Okay. And your girlfriend mom doesn't trust you and your girlfriend or just you?
12:22 Stryker I think it's just me.
12:23 Drew And she follows you around when you're going out on a date with her?
12:25 Stryker Yeah, she like, like on Thursday, she followed us to like the movie theater, like, and she like was like spying on us.
12:32 Drew Hey, Rich, I hate to say it. I know it's a pain in the ass for you, but we find that kind of quaint here on Loveline. That a parent actually gives a crap.
12:39 Stryker Yeah.
12:39 Drew We like that.
12:40 Stryker You weren't going to the Pussycat Theater, were you?
12:43 Stryker No.
12:43 Stryker Okay.
12:45 Adam But you said that you had known her for five years?
12:48 Stryker Yeah.
12:49 Adam And you've only recently started going out. Did you not meet her mom before?
12:53 Stryker No, I've known her mom. I just don't know why she's like...
12:56 Drew Are you the first date that this girl's had?
12:59 Stryker Yeah.
12:59 Drew Yeah, mom's freaking out a little bit.
13:00 Adam Yeah, it's just, I think, her own issue. It probably doesn't even really have that much to do with you personally. She's just nervous.
13:06 Drew You know what you got to realize when you're out 15, 16? It is so painful for parents to let go.
13:11 Adam I can't even imagine.
13:12 Drew It's their job to let go and they need to do it. But it is painful.
13:18 Stryker Is there any way I can give her some more security?
13:23 Stryker Yeah, talk to her directly.
13:24 Drew She's known you for five years. So let her know you're the same person. Even though you have a few tats and piercings now, it doesn't make a change, which I'm sure you have.
13:31 Adam And be consistent. Be honest about what your intentions are and be consistent. Consistency calms people in all situations, I think.
13:38 Drew And get her to know who you are as a person, not as the tattooed, pierced, rich from down the street. To nail her daughter.
13:46 Stryker Plus when girls get...
13:47 Drew By the way, Rich, you would not... Not only would I be following you, I'd be like handcuffed to my daughter. So just consider yourself lucky.
13:53 Stryker And 15 year old girls are developing like mad these days. I went to a surprise birthday party the other night for a 16 year old boy.
14:00 Stryker Yeah.
14:00 Stryker The girls there, I was like, they could be thrown in prison with the thoughts that were going on in my head. For the love of God. It's unbelievable. If I was a parent, if I have a daughter, she is not going to go out with anyone.
14:11 Stryker No.
14:12 Stryker And you have what? Eight daughters or something? No, I have one daughter. Two boys, triplets running around the house. All right. Janelle, you're 20 on Loveline.
14:20 Stryker Hi.
14:21 Stryker Hi.
14:22 Emily Procter with Stryker I just found out that I have four half-sisters and a half-brother, and I already have a half-sister that I live with.
14:29 Drew How did you find out at 20 that there are four siblings out there you didn't know about?
14:34 Stryker I got a letter from my biological grandmother on New Year. I guess my mom had contacted her back in July, and nobody let me know.
14:43 Drew I'm confused.
14:43 Adam That's interesting. I'm also adopted, and I always think about this. I'm like, oh no, what if one day the letter comes in the mail?
14:51 Emily Procter with Stryker Well, actually, my mom and my biological father split up when I was like nine months old. And when I was six, my mom married my stepdad, but they'd been dating since I was two. And so, he's my dad.
15:04 Drew So you're sort of OK that way.
15:05 Emily Procter with Stryker Yeah.
15:06 Drew In the meantime, your biological dad went out and had a bunch more kids, right?
15:09 Stryker Well, he had had two previously.
15:11 Drew And then he had two more.
15:12 Stryker Yeah.
15:13 Emily Procter with Stryker And nobody. No, he had three more.
15:15 Drew Do you really need to contact these folks?
15:17 Emily Procter with Stryker I don't know. Like, nobody.
15:19 Drew They're not your family.
15:20 Adam Do you want to?
15:21 Emily Procter with Stryker I don't know. I'm really confused.
15:23 Stryker Is there any blood at all in these half?
15:25 Drew Yeah.
15:26 Stryker Yeah.
15:27 Stryker Why wouldn't you want to contact?
15:28 Drew No, why would you? No, no, no. Why would you? I'd be curious in Emily's point of view, because she was adopted.
15:32 Adam Yeah. And this is what I was going to ask Janelle, where your conflict lies. Do you feel like you might be betraying your stepdad by contacting them? Or do you feel like you have a lot of family and you don't want more? Or is it just that you have problems with your biological dad?
15:51 Drew She has a family. She has a family. That's the family she's known her whole life. Why open up a new family just because there's a relation? What if dad had put the sperm in a sperm bank and she found out there were a couple other people circulating around that shared genetics with her? Does that make it family?
16:07 Emily Procter with Stryker Well, I just found out, like, I'm really close. My mom and my stepdad had a daughter. She's 13, and we're extremely close.
16:14 Drew But that's great. She's been in your family, been raised with her.
16:18 Adam So your issue really is loyalty, you think?
16:21 Emily Procter with Stryker Well, kind of. Like, I found out, like, one of my younger sisters is, like, an unwed mother, and I guess maybe I'm really protective or if I feel like...
16:29 Adam So you're not sure if there are people that you'd want to get along with?
16:32 Emily Procter with Stryker Yeah.
16:32 Adam And then there's loyalty.
16:34 Stryker One works at the mill, one's a garbage collector.
16:37 Adam Well, I think the thing is, I don't think that you should feel obligated to contact them. But at the end of the day, it is your life and if you feel like you want to get to know them as people, I think the decision that needs to be made is yours. And I'm sure that if you went to your dad, your stepdad, and said, you know, I love you and you're incredibly important to me, and this is something that I feel like I need to do for myself.
17:01 Drew I'm sure you'll be fine with that, but Christ sake, Janelle, you're 20. Don't you have other things to occupy your time at this time in your life? The last thing you do is open up a, and believe me, it's not gonna be the Partridge family when you get there. You know your biological dad's an A-hole, and believe me, he didn't have the, what's the, I'm not helping you here.
17:22 Emily Procter with Stryker No, well it's not him.
17:23 Drew Brady Bunch. It's not gonna be the Brady Bunch when you figure out who these kids are.
17:27 Emily Procter with Stryker It's not him that I want to meet. I've gotten a couple letters from my grandmother, and she's been telling me about them, and I wrote her back a letter telling her that, you know, emotionally I wasn't ready for this, and this wasn't something that I could find.
17:39 Adam There's your gut instinct.
17:40 Drew Let it go.
17:40 Stryker And if they want to find you, let them do that. Maybe the grandma's gonna write them.
17:45 Adam But I think it's okay to be fine with the gut instinct if you're not emotionally ready, and I think that's a very good point to take.
17:52 Drew You have no obligation to these people just because they share similar genetic histories.
17:57 Stryker Please, you were adopted, you said.
17:59 Adam I was.
18:00 Stryker Are you curious at all, or have you ever been curious to find out who the real, I mean, you have a real mom and dad, but the people that actually gave birth to you, are you curious to find out who they are?
18:09 Adam Well, it's interesting because I have a very close family, and we're all sort of hodgepodge together, but it is my family, and we all love each other a great deal, and I feel very satisfied with that and very confident with my family unit. But what does go through my mind, the only thought that I do have is that I was a very healthy baby, you know, and there are moments where I would love to just send my mom, my biological mother, a letter and say, you know, I'm so happy I have the most wonderful family. I went to college, I am so loved, I have been so nurtured.
18:49 Drew What would that do for you? Why would that create some closure?
18:53 Adam I think because in the back of your mind, you don't wonder if your biological parents aren't a little bit like you. And if it were me, I would always wonder. I would wonder, you know, to let go of a child, I think would be so, so difficult and I would wonder if I had made the right decision, if I had.
19:12 Drew But she did. And that's, yeah, that's fine. And great. You don't owe her anything. She did a great thing, by the way.
19:19 Adam She did a huge thing. And my family is the most important thing to me. And I would just like to say thank you. But I don't do it because it is opening a can of worms. And, you know, you could end up with a ton of family. And I have a lot already.
19:36 Drew I've never talked to anyone. Now, they may be out there.
19:39 Adam I actually know someone who found her biological parents and it's been a great experience.
19:44 Drew I've never talked to anyone for whom, when they found the parents, they were, you know, sitting at the Four Seasons at a writing desk, right? They were in a trailer and they were heroin addicts or they were, you know, but they were, they, you know, thank God they had the foresight to give the child up for adoption.
19:58 Adam Well, it was interesting because my friend Mary has a very aggressive kind of cancer that runs in her family and her biological mother had to go to the courts to get an issue saying that she could find Mary and say, You have this kind of cancer. And when they found each other, Mary's mother's biological name, her biological mother's name is Paula, her adopted mother's name is Paula, her father's name is Jim, her biological father's name is Jim. They drive the same, both of her mothers drive the same car and have the same job.
20:29 Stryker Wow.
20:30 Adam I know, it's interesting.
20:31 Stryker They both bag groceries. Rob, a future porn star possibly. What's your question, man? You're 16 on Loveline.
20:39 Stryker Hey, what's up?
20:40 Stryker What's up?
20:41 Stryker Where's Adam at?
20:42 Drew He's in New Orleans doing a man show.
20:44 Stryker Oh, I see. Oh, all right. Yeah, I want to know if there are any side effects or strange happenings or instances that might occur after I shave my pubic area.
20:55 Stryker Why do you want to? Why do you want to?
20:56 Stryker I don't know, I'm just a swimmer.
20:58 Drew It depends if you do it after you've been sucking on your bong for three hours. Yeah, no kidding.
21:05 Stryker He just had the laugh of every stoner.
21:08 Stryker Oh yeah.
21:09 Drew And he can't even get that laugh out. That's how horrible it is. But listen, you can get ingrown hairs, you can get irritations and women-
21:19 Stryker What are ingrown hairs about?
21:20 Drew They just, you basically shave down below the hair, the hair, and it grows back and becomes a small little like bubble. It becomes an abscess and they give it for carbuncles and things. It can be unpleasant, but God knows women deal with this all the time.
21:31 Adam I was going to say, speaking as a woman, if you want to do it, go for it. And the way to avoid the ingrown hair situation is a little baby powder.
21:39 Drew Really? What is that stuff? There's some cream you can use.
21:42 Adam Oh, there's stuff called Razor Tanskin. Tanskin is great.
21:47 Drew That's what everybody talks about.
21:48 Stryker I want to use that product, Nads. Have you seen that commercial for Nads? They call it Nads. You rub it all over your body where you want your hair gone. And then you take a Popsicle stick and you rub it on and then it rips off.
21:58 Stryker I'm from Australia. I actually know someone who does that.
22:01 Stryker You think they had the beard?
22:03 Stryker Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Rob, I got one thing to say to you about shaving the pubic hair. The worst situation, you're going to shave it down there and then you're going to let it grow a little. And some girl is going to get there and it's going to be so stubbly like your face, she's not going to want to get with you again. So stay away from the Bic down by the Johnson.
22:20 Drew So maybe trim.
22:22 Adam Yeah, I was going to say, I'm going to go against you there, Stryker. I think you want to go on. Go for it. Emily's a good haircut or something.
22:32 Drew Emily's a modern woman here.
22:34 Stryker Oh, God. All right. Well, Emily Proctor is here from the West Wing. I would be Stryker.
22:37 Stryker Oh, and on that note, I'm so embarrassed.
22:39 Stryker No, don't be embarrassed. We'll talk about this at the break when we come back. I'm trying to fill in for Ace Rockolla and Drew is here. More Loveline coming up after this.
23:06 You're listening to Loveline on Outrageous Talk Radio 100.7 The Buzz.
23:18 Stryker We're back. We're back. It's Loveline. I'm striking in for my main man mayonnaise, Adam Corolla with Dr. Drew and Emily Proctor is here from The West Wing, who is just you doing amazing.
23:28 Adam Oh, thanks.
23:29 Stryker Like when I listen to the show, because I'm on from six to ten on K-Rock, the guests normally don't chime in a whole lot. No.
23:35 Adam Oh, I'm doing amazing here. Oh, thank you. I'm full of nerves about it.
23:38 Stryker No, you're wonderful.
23:39 Adam Because you guys are you guys are tough.
23:41 Stryker Well, I think Drew is Drew is fairly tough. Drew is tough on me when I see him.
23:47 Stryker What is he like, Stryker, you want it? He's being hard on me.
23:49 Adam He's like, you feel this way. I'm like, no, I don't.
23:51 Stryker Back to the shaving thing. I don't know if you ever have a boyfriend or married or ever. Are you, do you like when your boyfriend is bald down there below the equator?
23:58 Stryker Um, well, I'm being tough.
24:02 Stryker Well, she brought it up.
24:03 Adam He's asking me for my opinion. Um, I'm, I'm, I'm going to come out on the radio and I'm going to be honest. Um, I, I have a thing for, for, um, for the hairless bod.
24:19 I do completely.
24:21 Adam Yeah.
24:22 Stryker And can you bring me a razor? I want to shave.
24:24 Adam You know what? That is a personal preference and I think, you know, people have what they like. I just, I like that, but it's actually, to be honest with you, it's my own thing. Like, I'm one of these people who I shave every day. Right. I just, I just like it.
24:39 Stryker I won't even ask then, because I know the answer for you personally.
24:42 Stryker Oh, God.
24:42 Stryker Oh, God.
24:44 Adam Oh, God.
24:45 Stryker Why did I answer this on the radio?
24:46 Stryker It's so embarrassing. It's you're wonderful, Emily Proctor.
24:49 Adam Every week I go to the show and they say, what embarrassing thing did you do last week? And I'm going to be like, well, in front of 10 million people or whatever it is. That's exactly what's going to happen.
24:57 Stryker Do you ever see Amelia Westaves hang out on the set?
25:01 Adam No, he's not around so much, but Martin, Martin's son Ramon is there. And he's this incredibly charming, handsome fellow. I think, I think they're probably all a nice brood. And then also Martin's daughter is there a lot. And she's quite beautiful. It's a, it's a good looking group.
25:18 Stryker Well, you're on fire. You are doing wonderful, Baldi. All right, Josh, Josh, you're 19 on Loveline.
25:27 Stryker Yeah, I'm kind of having a problem when I'm having sex with my girlfriend. And I don't ejaculate.
25:34 Drew How long has it been going on for?
25:37 Stryker Since I started having sex.
25:39 Drew Okay. Well, since I know exactly when that was.
25:42 Stryker It was about three and a half months ago.
25:44 Drew Okay. Are you still nervous around her?
25:46 Stryker No, I'm not.
25:47 Drew Are you on any medication?
25:48 Stryker No.
25:49 Stryker Smoke pot?
25:50 Stryker No.
25:51 Adam What about when you're by yourself?
25:54 Stryker I don't.
25:55 Drew You don't what?
25:56 Stryker I don't masturbate.
25:57 Stryker Because you're from where?
26:00 Stryker Where do you live? I don't masturbate anymore. I used to. But I don't anymore because I don't have to anymore.
26:06 Drew So because what?
26:07 Stryker Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, because why is it because religion of where you live?
26:11 Stryker No, because I'm, I'm having sex now.
26:13 Drew I don't see a reason why you're having sex, but you're not ejaculating.
26:17 Stryker Yeah.
26:17 Drew So you would think that your need for masturbation would be even greater.
26:20 Stryker It's like a tied up hose now. It's just building up.
26:23 Drew So I have, yeah.
26:23 Stryker Sometimes I feel like I'm going to pop, but I mean, I know sometimes I feel like I'm going to get there, but I don't.
26:30 Drew This doesn't fit together for me, Josh.
26:34 Stryker Do you ever masturbate in front of your girlfriend?
26:37 Stryker No.
26:38 Stryker Have you thought of that? Maybe that'll get you a little more excited and you can get it done and then move on.
26:42 Stryker I haven't thought about that.
26:44 Stryker Why don't you try that one out?
26:46 Drew There's a heavy bogosity element.
26:48 Stryker Think of me when you do it.
26:52 Drew It's a heavy bogosity factor in this call. Yeah. Yeah.
26:55 Stryker But I don't know what it is. Go ahead.
26:57 Drew No, it's just he's just making it up.
26:59 Stryker No, he's not. No, he's not making that up.
27:01 Stryker Hold on. Josh. I just, I get like a lot of pre-come, but I don't actually finish. Okay.
27:08 Drew Well, Stryker's giving me a piece of reasonable piece of advice and it's bizarre that you would cease masturbating at a time when your sexual arousal would be at its height, would sort of unsuccessfully released. And Stryker's idea is reasonable.
27:23 Stryker You ever tried that one, Emily? You don't have to answer. I'm just kidding.
27:26 Adam I'm not talking to you.
27:26 Stryker All right.
27:27 Drew You're up.
27:28 Stryker Yes.
27:29 Stryker 31 on Loveline.
27:30 Stryker Hi. I am watching the West Wing right now.
27:33 Drew Wow.
27:34 Stryker But now it's muted.
27:36 Adam We're on the second part of the two part episode, right?
27:38 Stryker Yeah, I love it. I love it. You guys do a fabulous job.
27:42 Adam Oh, thank you so much for saying that. It's the nicest group. It makes me so happy when people like the show. So proud.
27:49 Stryker I have to say, Drew, that I'm calling in tonight because Adam's not there.
27:53 Drew Thank you. I'm sure we'll get lots of new callers tonight. Thank you.
27:58 Adam I don't blame you. They're scary.
28:01 Drew Let me do too. Yeah.
28:03 Stryker You got to come to Universal and see the new studio tour.
28:06 Stryker Oh, really? I love that studio tour there.
28:09 Stryker Yeah, I'm a tour guide, so.
28:10 Stryker Oh, really?
28:11 Emily Procter with Stryker Oh, excellent.
28:12 Stryker Are you an actress?
28:13 Emily Procter with Stryker Yes.
28:14 Adam Stick with it. I have to say, patience is the only thing, but I tell you, when you get to work with nice people, it's so much fun.
28:22 Stryker I love it.
28:23 Stryker Does King Kong still stand over 30 feet tall and weigh in at 16,000 pounds, 300 of which is synthetic fur?
28:28 Stryker Synthetic fur. And he also has banana bread. Nice.
28:31 Stryker Yes. And he made his debut in the 1963 RKO production starring Fei-Rui.
28:36 Stryker 1930.
28:37 Adam 30.
28:38 Stryker 32. Anyway.
28:40 Adam And I guess in entertainment, you know, I can't remember which, maybe it's Maxim magazine, but they gave the top 100 movie moments of all time, and one of them was King Kong making out with Fei-Rui in a waterfall. Really?
28:51 Stryker Yeah. Yes. That was a very interesting little statement.
28:55 Stryker All right. So do you have a question?
28:56 Stryker Yes, I do. Absolutely. This is mostly for Drew, I suppose. I have always had a problem achieving orgasm with a partner.
29:07 Drew During intercourse? Yeah.
29:09 Stryker During intercourse. Absolutely. And I have always sort of suspected that my sensitivity in my clitoral area is not up to par. And I have been a smoker since I was 15. I just quit. And I am wondering if that could have had a part in that.
29:26 Drew It is an interesting question. It is an interesting question. And it turns out that the blood supply to that area is even more sensitive to the damaging effects of cigarettes than even the blood supply to the heart. However, you have had this your whole life. You wonder whether the stimulant properties in the nicotine might suppress your orgasmic function. That is possible. But I have never heard of anybody complain of that. So, it has not been my experience. But it is an interesting question. Good luck. Hopefully, things will move along more now that you are a non-smoker. You are not taking well butrin, are you, as a way of getting off cigarettes?
30:00 Stryker Well, I was. But I am not anymore.
30:02 Drew Because that will charge you up a little bit sometimes.
30:05 Stryker All right, Kira?
30:06 Stryker Yes.
30:07 Stryker Thanks for calling.
30:07 Stryker Oh, well, thanks for having me.
30:08 Drew Good question.
30:09 Stryker And have fun at the Universal Studios.
30:11 Stryker Well, come visit sometime.
30:12 Stryker I will. Thank you. Okay, bye. All right, Denise?
30:16 Stryker Yes.
30:16 Stryker You're 30 on Loveline.
30:18 Stryker Yes, I just want to say hi to Emily Procter.
30:21 Adam Oh, Denise, thank you. Hi.
30:22 Stryker I'm a big fan of the West Wing. In fact, I'm recording it now because I listened to Dr. Drew and Adam, even though Stryker's there.
30:29 Adam Believe me, I was conflicted because I was so excited about coming in, but I knew I was going to miss the second selected episode.
30:38 Stryker Even though I watch them all, I can watch the reruns too. They're so great. I'm not a rerun kind of person.
30:46 Adam Well, I totally understand because I watched it for the whole first season and then got on the cast, so I still tape it.
30:53 Stryker Yeah. I was just curious on how much input the actors have on the script. It's so well written. I was wondering.
31:03 Adam Well, actually, Aaron Sorkin is, in my opinion, just a genius and he writes week to week for everyone, and it really is his baby. He writes it, and as an actor, you never say anything because you don't have to. You read what he's written you and it's just gorgeous.
31:23 Stryker That's amazing.
31:24 Adam It is amazing. It's such a wonderful feeling.
31:26 Drew Is the upcoming strike going to be an issue for you guys?
31:29 Adam Yeah, I think so. I think it's probably going to be an issue for everyone, which makes me very sad because I feel like I've finally gotten a job that I just absolutely love and I'll be sad to be away from it for a little while. But hopefully for everybody, it won't last so long.
31:44 Stryker Does Aaron direct the shows as well?
31:47 Adam No, it's kind of a triple threat team over there because Tommy Schlome, who's one of the producers.
31:53 Stryker I know, that's Tommy Schlome.
31:56 Adam I know, he's just a great guy. He produces and then he steps in and directs every fourth one or every fifth one. Just kind of rides hard over everyone. Then there's John Wells, so we've got these three great guys who just love making a TV show.
32:18 Stryker I bet when writers write something, it's their baby. If you want to stray from that, I'm sure they're fairly sensitive about that, right?
32:25 Adam Well, I don't think it's that so much. The thought would never even occur to you because what is written for you is so great. Aaron is such an incredibly loyal individual and he cares to give everyone who's on the show something to do. You're never just standing around having coffee at the coffee pot.
32:44 Stryker Exactly.
32:45 Adam He gives everyone a story.
32:46 Stryker And he eats the red vines. Emily Procter is here. She's from the West Wing which has won Emmys. I know that. Or Grammys.
32:54 Stryker Yeah. Lots of Grammys.
32:56 Stryker You're singers.
32:57 Adam Yeah. Absolutely.
32:58 Stryker We're a band. You're bald too. I'm Stryker. In for Adam with Dr. Drew. When we come back we'll speak to Lee who saw porn and they were choking and now something's going on in his brisane. We'll find out next on Loveline.
33:09 Stryker You know what I'm saying, Adam?
33:28 You're listening to Loveline on Outrageous Talk Radio, 100.7 The Buzz.
33:37 Stryker Wow, that's loud. Blink 182 Man overboard.
33:40 Drew All right, we're back.
33:41 Stryker It's Loveline. I'm Stryker in for Adam Corolla along with Dr. Drew. You're a board certified physician and an addiction medicine specialist.
33:48 Drew Just retook my medicine, my no, my addiction boards again.
33:51 Stryker How'd you do? Oh, wow. Did you study?
33:53 Drew No.
33:54 Stryker And you passed?
33:55 Drew I do a lot of addiction medicine. I thought to myself, if I don't really know this stuff now, there's a problem. I passed.
34:01 Stryker There's a lady who's the Chili Peppers are doing a benefit concert for. I think it's Julia Scott, something Scott. Do you happen to know who she is?
34:08 Drew No.
34:09 Stryker She's worked, I guess, with a lot of musicians and she's very ill now and they're doing a big concert for her. You don't happen to know her though?
34:15 Drew Don't know her.
34:16 Stryker But you do have a TV show, which is nice.
34:17 Drew Yes, I do. I've worked with a lot of musicians. Oh my God.
34:21 Adam You're famous and you're really, really smart.
34:23 Stryker You know why I'm so happy I'm here?
34:25 Drew Why?
34:25 Stryker Because I see you on this show every morning. Right when I get up, the women are from Mars, and I think the black lady on that show likes you.
34:35 Drew Well, I'll let you come in and go talk to her.
34:36 Stryker Seriously, I think she has a thing for you. I've seen her look at you and she's practically drooling over you.
34:41 Drew She got mad at me this week, so she's mad at me right now.
34:43 Stryker Oh really? We'll see what happens.
34:45 Adam Maybe she's masking her feelings.
34:47 Stryker You never know.
34:49 Stryker To my right, Emily Procter is here.
34:50 Drew I know. I'm going to get you set up with Sam, so it will be all right.
34:53 Stryker I can't do it. Emily Procter is here and we've learned a lot about her, boy. She's on The West Wing.
34:59 Adam You just keep bringing it up.
35:00 Stryker I won't bring it up anymore.
35:01 Adam You're just driving it home.
35:02 Stryker You told us something good. You've opened a can of worms.
35:04 Adam I said nothing.
35:05 Stryker That's a big matzo ball, baby. The West Wing is just doing so great. Next time the TV Awards come around, I guess you'll be able to go to the award show.
35:15 Adam Well, I actually got to go to the Golden Gloves and it was super exciting and everyone on the show was so nice. They said, you're going to be there and if we win, everyone comes up to go up there. So I ran up there and I got stuck behind everyone on stage. I was trying to peek and Tommy Shalami accepted the award and afterwards, because that's kind of old hat for those guys by now. They were like, wasn't that a lovely speech that Tommy gave? I said, I did not hear anything. I was staring into the audience like, oh my God, there's Tom Cruise. Oh my God, there's Catherine Zadar. Completely starstruck and trying to be seen so that my parents could see me. And then they called and said, we saw your gloves.
35:59 Stryker You wore gloves?
36:00 Adam I wore long gloves.
36:01 Stryker Did you walk down the red carpet and Joan Rivers said, so what are you wearing?
36:04 Adam Actually, someone did ask me what I was wearing. And I said, they said, whose dress are you wearing? And I said, my own. And the guy said, oh my God, you designed that? And I said, no, but I own it. And they weren't happy about it. I need to get some new clothes. I don't know where the free clothes line is.
36:23 Stryker I'm not in it. You and me will go shopping sometime.
36:25 Adam I want to be the free clothes person.
36:27 Stryker Really? Yeah, but I'm not. I can get you porn star clothing. It's a-
36:30 Stryker Really?
36:31 Stryker Here it is.
36:31 Adam Oh, I love that stuff.
36:32 Stryker Yeah, here, look, see? Oh my God.
36:35 Stryker Oh my God.
36:36 Adam Hey.
36:36 Stryker Yeah.
36:37 Stryker We'll get you hooked up.
36:39 Adam Yeah, because everyone's seen all my clothes. I'm sorry, I'm rambling.
36:42 Stryker What, Dr. Drew?
36:43 Drew What do you do during the days? I'm starting to get scared right now.
36:47 Stryker I play Tony Hawk 2 on the Sony PlayStation. You play what?
36:52 Adam I play Tetris.
36:53 Stryker Yeah, exactly. You do? Tetris. That's funny.
36:55 Adam No, actually, I'm kind of old school. I do go to the arcade over on Vermont a lot.
36:59 Stryker You are a man's dream. You play video games. You're, Lee, you're 26 on Loveline.
37:03 Stryker Yeah, I was really interested in hearing the rest of her conversation. Is she single?
37:08 Adam Yes, I am.
37:09 Stryker Are you?
37:10 Stryker Yes, I am.
37:11 Stryker Let's go.
37:13 Stryker Where do you live, Lee? Chicago.
37:15 Stryker Oh, that's far. It's cold.
37:17 Stryker Yeah. But I'm going to relocate the Burbank pretty soon.
37:19 Stryker All right.
37:23 Drew What a random place to relocate. Why are you going to Burbank?
37:26 Stryker Because I'm a freelance cameraman.
37:29 Drew Oh, NBC. Yeah.
37:30 Stryker And I want to get into the business out there.
37:34 Drew And even people that work at NBC don't live in Burbank. So that's true.
37:37 Adam I think the only thing in Burbank is Warner Brothers, isn't it? It takes up the whole city. It's so gigantic.
37:44 Drew All right, Lee, what's your question?
37:45 Stryker Okay.
37:47 Stryker I saw a movie. I just rented it from the video store. I just, you know, no girlfriend. So I rent movies and masturbate regularly.
37:54 Drew Nice.
37:54 Stryker And yeah, and passed at the time. I just rented one from the video store. It's not like, you know, it's a mainstream chain and all that video store. And one of the things the girl, I found out the girl likes was to have her throat squeezed for like four to seven seconds.
38:10 Drew What girl? What girl?
38:12 Stryker A porn star.
38:12 Drew Oh, all right.
38:13 Stryker Which one?
38:14 Stryker TJ. Hart.
38:15 Stryker Oh yeah. Good work.
38:16 Stryker Okay. Well, I was initially, you know, kind of turned on by her before the choke and all that. But I saw that and I just, I never saw anything like that before. And it kind of made me sick.
38:29 Stryker Yeah. Okay.
38:29 Drew That would be.
38:30 Stryker I lost my, you know.
38:32 Stryker Erection?
38:32 Stryker Yeah. And I was, you know.
38:35 Drew Upset?
38:36 Stryker Later I ran out of sentence finishers. Yeah.
38:38 Stryker I'm sorry.
38:39 Drew Go ahead.
38:40 Stryker I'm just a little nervous.
38:41 Drew Yeah, we know.
38:42 Stryker I rented another film.
38:44 Adam Me too.
38:45 Stryker With her in there. Well, I'm nervous cause I'm talking to you. But cause you're so.
38:49 Adam Oh, well I'm nervous cause I'm on the radio. It's hard.
38:52 Drew And she's also nervous cause you're talking to some guy that's into choking snuff porn.
38:55 Stryker Exactly. Lee, finish it up, man. Go ahead.
38:58 Stryker I rented another, another film with her in there thinking maybe that was just the scene or something like that.
39:04 Drew Yeah.
39:05 Stryker And, you know, it happened again and I, I'm sorry.
39:09 Drew Yeah, we're listening.
39:10 Stryker I must have had like a panic attack because I was up to the whole night. I wanted to jump in the screen and punch the guy and how very interesting.
39:19 Drew You know, did you have to have to witness some violence in your home when you were growing up?
39:23 Stryker No, I, I just, I never saw anything like that before.
39:27 Drew You know, I'm wondering where this desire to save comes from, where the rescue thing comes from.
39:32 Stryker You know, Drew, I thought about that, too.
39:34 Drew Yeah.
39:35 Stryker And Dr. Drew. And I think, like, psychologically, not just physically, I was attracted to her because she's, like, quiet and kind of, like, a submissive personality.
39:47 Drew I understand there's a whole fantasy attached to her, but why rescue? It's what she wants. She likes that.
39:54 Stryker Right.
39:55 Drew Why do you need to rescue?
39:58 Stryker Because I made up this thought in my head that, like, the evil porn owner, like, says, you'll do that, you know, and I'll just pay you. And she, like, goes in the back and cries after the scene or something.
40:10 Stryker Well, I think, Lee, I think most girls that are in porn, most, not all, have something going on with them anyways.
40:17 Stryker Yeah.
40:17 Stryker And I think they're willing to do a lot of things in the movies, but the girls that do that, there's a lot of people, guys and girls, actually get turned on by that choking feeling. Michael Hutchins, the guy from INXS, who died.
40:31 Adam The other erotic asphyxiation.
40:33 Stryker Yeah, maybe he was doing a little something to his own self when he died, seriously.
40:39 Drew Yeah.
40:40 Stryker So she may really, really, really like that, Lee. I wouldn't blame a director or anything like that. And, you know, maybe go rent Pete's Dragon now and, you know.
40:48 Drew And I look at, I understand why you'd be attracted to somebody in pornography, but why that very intense attraction that need to rescue and all the fantasy attached to that. And I look at that kind of carefully.
40:58 Stryker You are after all alone and 26 year old virgins, a matter of fact.
41:03 Drew Yeah. So something up here, Lee.
41:06 Stryker Well, I think that if it was anyone being choked, you know, like I watch wrestling, but I know that's fake. I mean, I think if it was anyone in that situation, I would react the same.
41:19 Drew I understand. I think it's great that you want to rescue someone that's altruistic and all, but there's more to it.
41:25 Adam Yeah, I would say that too, because I think it's interesting that you rented one and had this very violent reaction to it, which is understandable, but then went back to rent the same thing again, you know, not the same movie, but with the same actress. And I think it's worth looking at.
41:42 Drew And you've not yet been with a woman? Have you ever had a girlfriend?
41:45 Stryker Oh yeah, my longest relationship was almost a year. And the only thing is we did everything with penetration because we're both virgins and I didn't have a condom.
41:56 Stryker The whole time?
41:57 Stryker The whole year?
41:59 Stryker Well we really started getting into it at the end. We were both kind of scared and we started with like a hug and then a kiss. It was kind of, you know, real after school special kind of love story.
42:10 Stryker How old were you?
42:12 Stryker Oh shoot, 94.
42:15 Drew Through 18, something like that?
42:16 Stryker 19, 20, something like that.
42:18 Adam Is it a religious choice that you've decided to remain a virgin? Or have you just been nervous?
42:23 Stryker Well, at that point, I didn't have a condom. Had I had one, I would have.
42:26 Drew Lee, please, that is not an excuse. That is not an excuse. I mean, guys that write up sex will airlift condoms in. Seriously, it's nothing to it.
42:34 Stryker Okay.
42:36 Stryker Yeah, I guess I'm nervous. I'm doing very well on my career. And it seems like love and romance and sex are like, you know, my weaker suit. You know, I have.
42:46 Stryker It just seems like you lack like a bit a bit of confidence. We're not getting in just by ten thousand condoms. Put them in your drawer. Find a woman. And here's some really good points to rent, by the way. Emily May probably has all these. Romance in the bone is really good. Jurassic Park, Pulp Friction, Backside of the Future, Part Three.
43:07 Adam Are you only naming universal ones?
43:09 Stryker Well, you know, they got the tour.
43:11 Adam You're still thinking about Kira.
43:12 Stryker Oh, that's right. She's out in Burbank, right?
43:14 Adam Yeah, but I was going to say, I can understand, I can understand being nervous, but I think it's always helpful to remember. I think that everybody gets nervous.
43:22 Drew There's something much more going on with Lee here. We're not going to get it.
43:25 Stryker Yeah, definitely.
43:26 Drew He's okay. He'll figure it out. Josh.
43:28 Stryker What's up?
43:29 Stryker What's up, man? You're 19 on Loveline.
43:30 Stryker Yeah. Here's my question. Recently, I stopped doing, like, smoking pot, dropping after the ecstasy, stuff like that.
43:40 Drew Wonderful.
43:43 Stryker And my sex drive with my girlfriend is declining.
43:47 Drew Since stopping all that?
43:49 Stryker Yeah.
43:50 Drew Or what? Did you stop the drugs because your sex drive was declining?
43:53 Stryker No. Because I stopped, it's declining.
43:57 Drew Okay. And how long could you stop smoking the pot?
44:00 Stryker Oh, it's been about a month and a half.
44:04 Drew Are you getting depressed?
44:06 Stryker I did for a long time, but now I'm on the upside end of it.
44:09 Stryker All right.
44:09 Drew Well, your libido should come back.
44:11 Stryker Okay.
44:12 Drew Provided that there's not significant damage from the ecstasy and the LSD. Because marijuana depression can go on for about six months. You may have a G. Chris libido for up to six months. Have you had any suicidal thoughts?
44:25 Stryker No.
44:26 Drew You sure?
44:27 Stryker Yeah. I mean, during the whole, I mean, it was four or five years, you know.
44:33 Drew But usually people, when they stop smoking pot, or often when they stop smoking pot, heavy pot, they'll get a little suicidal thinking.
44:38 Stryker Hell, yeah. Like right after. Yeah.
44:40 Drew There you go. And actually people commonly, believe it or not, kill themselves during that depression, in the first six months of marijuana absence. And that shows how severe the depression is when people stop smoking pot. Definitely. And although you feel good now, you may still be somewhat depressed. It's just relatively you're feeling good. So the libido should come back over the next three or four months, provided that the damage to your brain from the ecstasy was not too bad.
45:02 Stryker So I've heard you guys talk about on Loveline, when you stop smoking pot after you've done a long time, you get depressed, but the libido deal, that happens also when you're just...
45:09 Drew That's part of depression. Oh really?
45:11 Stryker But it will come back for them.
45:13 Drew The E is the thing that can keep...
45:14 Adam You look nervous, Stryker.
45:15 Stryker I'm not asking that question.
45:17 Drew Let me get some details here. You're taking notes.
45:19 Stryker I'm thinking about a friend.
45:22 Stryker You're your roommate.
45:24 Stryker This guy on the Niagara Falls area, Tara...
45:27 Adam Canada or New York side?
45:29 Stryker On the New York side.
45:30 Drew Fredonium.
45:31 Stryker Yes. Tara, you're 19 on Loveline with Emily Proctor from The West Wing.
45:35 Emily Procter with Stryker Hi.
45:37 Stryker I'm a little nervous.
45:38 Emily Procter with Stryker My question was... Actually, can I... Drew, can I ask you a quick question before I ask my real question?
45:43 Drew Sure.
45:44 Emily Procter with Stryker I was just wondering, do you still practice anymore? Like, do you have like, patients?
45:47 Drew No.
45:48 Emily Procter with Stryker Not that I'm asking or anything, but...
45:49 Drew No, no. I have... I make a habit of doing it every day. However, this Mars Venus thing has eaten up a couple days a week. So, I'm down to like four days a week.
45:57 Stryker Just to kind of keep yourself fresh or whatever?
45:59 Drew Well, to know what the hell I'm talking about. A. B. I direct a chemical dependency program.
46:03 Emily Procter with Stryker Oh, I didn't know that.
46:04 Drew And C. I have patients I've taken care of for many years, so I feel a strong obligation to continue seeing them.
46:10 Emily Procter with Stryker Okay. Yeah, I was just wondering. I was thinking about the other day. It's like, I wonder if you still practice.
46:14 Drew It's also, I have great disdain for physicians in media that don't practice, because you quickly lose track of what's going on.
46:20 Stryker Can you turn the radio down?
46:21 Emily Procter with Stryker Thank you. Sorry, weird echo thing. My question is, is that I live in Portland, and I just recently kind of relocated from here. I was moving around for a while, and my family is mostly in New Jersey, and my mother is there, and there's a big history of depression in our family, and I've always kind of worried about various members of the family, but recently, especially, I'm worried about my mom and what she might do to herself. I'm kind of afraid she might kill herself. It seems like she's a little bit too loyal for the family for that, but at the same time, we have a big history of suicide attempts in my family.
47:06 Drew This is a pretty heavy topic, and I'm not going to get it in 30 seconds, which is all we've got left before we have to break, so I want you to hang on for one second, and we'll pick you up again after the commercials, okay?
47:15 Emily Procter with Stryker No problem.
47:16 Stryker Take it away, Drew. Why don't you send us to break for once, Doctor?
47:18 Drew Stryker. I'm delighted to have Stryker here, who you all will know over the next year, I guarantee it, and he's delightful to have, and a breath of fresh air after that, burdensome Corolla, and thank God he's not here tonight. We're here with Emily Procter from West Wing, and we will be right back with Loveline after this.
47:50 You're listening to Loveline on Outrageous Talk Radio 100.7 The Buzz. Outrageous Talk Radio 100.7 The Buzz. KQBC, Seattle.
48:01 Adam Even though I don't know.
48:03 Drew No, it's not. I will, I do a daytime TV, so they're always flipping.
48:07 Stryker Always slipping. And Emily Procter is here from The West Wing, and this is my take on you now.
48:13 Adam Oh God.
48:13 Stryker You are in such, this is like a great story. I think within two years, everyone, you're gonna be a huge star.
48:20 Adam Oh God, that would be terrible.
48:21 Stryker No, that would be great because you've done so many, you know, you've been in a lot of different things, you know, ten lines here, five lines there, maybe a co-star.
48:27 Adam I've been completely flying under the radar.
48:29 Stryker Right. And now you're on the West Wing, and people are gonna know who you are, and now you're gonna probably get some big movies in the hiatus if there's no strike. And you've got it, I think it's gonna be good. And now some man in there is clapping at me.
48:40 Stryker It's my manager.
48:41 Stryker Oh, he is?
48:41 Adam It's my manager because-
48:42 Stryker Is he hairy or shaved?
48:45 Adam Shaved, he says. More info than I needed.
48:51 Stryker Yeah, exactly.
48:53 Adam You know, here's honestly how I feel about it at the moment. I love my job so much. I've never been this happy. And if this were the end of the line for me, I would be perfectly fine.
49:03 Stryker Well, let's hope it's not.
49:05 Adam I know, but I say this to him and then he, and now I know he's like, shut, just move on, Emily.
49:11 Stryker She wants to do a tampon commercial, ladies and gentlemen, and she needs free clothes, by the way, any sponsors?
49:17 Adam I know, I'm not in the free clothes line, but you know, who knows? Maybe I'll emerge at the end of it so addicted that I want to keep pressing forward, but I love it so much. I'm very happy to have this.
49:27 Stryker I see good things for you.
49:28 Adam Thank you, but thank you for saying that. I appreciate you.
49:30 Stryker Yeah, definitely.
49:31 Adam Thinking that I, you know, So it's cool to have you on the show. Success is coming my way.
49:35 Stryker And I'm filling out, I'll be like, yep, I knew her. We were supposed to go shopping, we didn't go. We were talking to Tara right before the break, right here on Loveline, and she lives in Portland. Her family's out in the Joyzee, and she thinks her mom is suicidal, and she wants to know what she's gonna do, and all this, and it could get deep. Tara?
49:53 Emily Procter with Stryker Hi.
49:53 Drew What is it that makes you believe your mom's suicidal?
49:57 Emily Procter with Stryker See, I mean, what I was saying before was that my two older brothers and a sister, and my oldest brother tried to commit suicide when he was like 15 or 16, and then I tried to commit suicide, and then recently my sister, let's see, a year, year and a half ago, I think, she tried once, and then she tried again, and that time my parents put her into like some sort of place, I don't know, for a week or something like that.
50:26 Drew Now this is all while everyone is teenagers, right?
50:29 Emily Procter with Stryker Yeah.
50:29 Drew That's a lot different than adults, okay?
50:31 Emily Procter with Stryker Right.
50:31 Drew Has your mom been depressed or?
50:33 Emily Procter with Stryker Well, yeah, she's always been, she's always been depressed, and occasionally she would go into therapy, but she says things, it's kind of like before my sister tried to commit suicide the second time, or the first and the second time around, both times I kind of like saw it, you know, I recognized the same things that I'd been saying, the same way I'd been acting, that kind of thing, and I didn't do anything about it. So now I'm kind of very alone.
50:57 Drew Why do I smell alcoholism in the family?
50:59 Emily Procter with Stryker Oh, yeah.
51:01 Drew I mean, I just know when I say this.
51:03 Emily Procter with Stryker Yeah, my mom's not an alcoholic, and she doesn't actually, she doesn't even really drink.
51:07 Drew But her dad?
51:08 Emily Procter with Stryker Her dad, yes.
51:10 Stryker And he also had all kinds of weird problems.
51:12 Drew And your dad?
51:13 Emily Procter with Stryker My dad, yeah, but not that I remember.
51:16 Drew But, I mean, that's the, that's what you're describing is that family.
51:20 Emily Procter with Stryker Yeah.
51:20 Drew With the depressed mom, the alcoholic granddad, who is an alcoholic and has a lot of tumultuous family systems issues, and kids are depressed and probably doing drugs, probably your brothers are doing drugs. And now you get acting out suicidal teenagers.
51:35 Emily Procter with Stryker Right.
51:36 Drew That's that story. So, you know, Tara, you can go in and participate in family treatments. You can go into your own therapy. You can certainly be very direct and honest with your mom, and be a good daughter and make sure she gets and takes care of herself. But that's about all you can do. You can't protect her. And if you start acting that way, and probably in any event, you should go to Al-Anon or Alateen. Al-Anon at 19. And get a sponsor and really work on your co-dependency, right?
52:03 Stryker Right.
52:04 Drew Because you've been through a lot yourself. And it sounds like you're doing great right now, but you want to take it all away.
52:08 Stryker Right.
52:09 Drew Okay? Okay.
52:10 Stryker Thanks, Tara.
52:11 Stryker Thanks.
52:11 Stryker All right. Now, when those suicide calls come in, like whenever I feel in frat, I might just kind of sit back and watch Drew do his thing.
52:18 Adam Yeah, because I'm just not an expert in that arena. But I think Al-Anon is a great suggestion.
52:22 Drew Yeah. That was an alcoholism story, not a suicide story.
52:25 Stryker All right. It's 1-800-LOVE-191. It's Loveline. And let's speak to Melissa, who's 20. Hello there.
52:32 Stryker Hey, how's it going?
52:33 Stryker Good.
52:34 Stryker I've got a quick question. Yeah. This guy I'm seeing, he had cancer when he was younger. And he had to go through chemotherapy. And he told me that he couldn't ever have kids.
52:44 Drew I like the way they spell chemo on our board here. It's like chemo is on, in Lahaina. Let's keep chemo's bar in Lahaina.
52:53 Stryker Lahaina is in Hawaii, by the way, everyone out there.
52:56 Drew So he had chemo.
52:57 Stryker Yeah. And he said that he could never have kids.
52:59 He said it made him sterile.
53:00 Drew Yeah. Is that true? Certain chemos will make you sterile.
53:02 Okay.
53:03 Emily Procter with Stryker Is that reversible or?
53:04 Drew Not if he's had the kind that's made him sterile. What kind of cancer did he have?
53:08 Stryker I think he's a Hodgkin.
53:10 Drew Yeah. He's probably sterile.
53:11 Stryker Is that of the lymph nodes Hodgkin? Yeah.
53:13 Drew That's a type of lymph.
53:15 Adam Lymphoma.
53:16 Stryker So there's no reverse for that? No.
53:19 Stryker Okay.
53:19 Stryker So actually I want to ask you real quick. So will you stop seeing him because of this, Melissa?
53:23 Emily Procter with Stryker Oh, no.
53:24 Stryker No.
53:24 Stryker Okay. Good.
53:25 Stryker No.
53:25 Emily Procter with Stryker Definitely not.
53:26 Drew You know, what I don't know off the top of my head is whether there's a possibility of fertility and you know, he might want to get a sperm check just to see if that's, he probably got CHOP. Yeah, I don't know too much about it, which is Cytoxan, which is infertility, but yeah, you could be checked.
53:41 Stryker Yeah.
53:42 Okay.
53:42 Drew All right.
53:42 Melissa, thanks.
53:44 Stryker Bye.
53:44 Drew All right.
53:44 Stryker Let's go to Jim. Jim, you're 20 on Loveline.
53:47 Drew You just clicked on Melissa, though.
53:48 Stryker Oh, I did?
53:49 Drew You did. Oh, there we go. All right. Jim?
53:52 Stryker Yes.
53:53 Stryker What's up, man?
53:54 Stryker First of all, I want to say that Stryker is correct. Emily or Ainsley, whatever, you are going to be huge. I've never seen you in anything before. The very first episode you had on West Wing was just like, where is she coming from? I mean, you said that the writing was all done for you and it was nothing you would challenge. Every episode you've been in, you were like put up on this unbelievable pedestal to come in and beat up Rob Lowe the way you did and all that. Why last week when you were doing your press conference thing did they write you as so dizzy?
54:25 Adam You know what I think happened with my character in the last two episodes is that I think Ainsley makes for a nice amount of comic relief and everyone else's job is so serious that in those two episodes they really couldn't afford to break character and have any humor but at some point you just need a relief and I think that I was meant to be comic relief.
54:53 Stryker Well don't feel like you're not a huge part of the show because you missed the first season because I got somebody that all they did was watch your episode, your first one, and that got them hooked to the show.
55:02 Adam Oh Jim, thank you for saying that. I feel unbelievably honored to even be able to talk about the show with anyone. I feel so lucky to do it and I have to say, they write me a great part.
55:16 Stryker No doubt about that. Are you going to be real, not reoccurring, but every episode kind of thing?
55:22 Adam I don't think so. I think there are a lot of mouths to feed over there and my guess would be that I will be on occasionally. You know, I love it. I would be happy to be on as often as they'd have me, but there are a lot of really strong characters, you know, in line ahead of Ainsley. And especially being that, you know, she is playing from a different party, I think it makes it difficult sometimes to factor her in every week.
55:50 Stryker So now that you're on the West Wing, do you follow politics a lot more closely?
55:53 Adam Well, I understand it a lot better, which is one of the other things that I love about my job is not only am I getting to have a fun job, but I'm getting to learn so much. And it's great.
56:05 Stryker Where are you from?
56:06 Adam North Carolina.
56:07 Stryker And you moved out here just to be an actress.
56:09 Adam I did.
56:09 Stryker And it's panning out.
56:10 Adam Can you believe it? After nine years of waiting in line, you know, people like Jim Collin are nice to me on the radio.
56:16 Stryker All I know is the best thing you've ever been in is the Dukes of Houser reunion. I will stick to that.
56:21 Adam Stryker, thank you for following my career so closely. Oh, I follow.
56:25 Stryker And I will continue. Jerry 20 on Loveline.
56:29 Stryker Yeah. I got a question. See, I'm with a 25 year old woman and I'm dating her for six months now. And I just moved in with her. And before I moved in, she sat down and talked with me and she said that she had four kids and that she was married.
56:42 Drew And you didn't know that?
56:44 Stryker No, I did not know that at first.
56:46 Drew Wow.
56:46 Stryker You couldn't tell from maybe stomach stretches or anything like that, that she's had four puppies in there before?
56:51 Adam And she's 26?
56:53 Stryker And 25.
56:54 Adam At 25.
56:55 Drew What the hell is the matter with her that she is not with her kids?
56:59 Stryker Well, see, that's the thing is I don't know. And when I moved in with her, I mean, I want to stay together with her.
57:04 Stryker She's married, you said?
57:05 Stryker Yeah. And see, the thing is she wants to divorce. But the thing is though...
57:09 Drew Why isn't she with her kids, Jerry? What the hell are you doing? You got blinders on just because you're having sex with this woman?
57:16 Stryker No, we haven't had sex yet.
57:18 Drew What is going on here? You're moving in, you're not having sex, this woman has four kids, she's not with them. That is... I mean, something is very wrong here.
57:27 Stryker Well, I mean, she's a beautiful woman.
57:30 Drew I understand, and you're desperate to stay with her, so you don't want to look at anything about who the person actually is. But there's something very serious going on here.
57:38 Stryker Well, yeah, I mean, I feel for her husband. I mean, I see it, and I just want to break off my relationship, but at the same time, I don't want to. I mean, I want to break off their one. I mean, Ben.
57:47 Drew Why answer this one question, Jerry?
57:49 Stryker Yeah.
57:50 Drew Why isn't she with her kids?
57:53 Stryker She takes her kids to daycare, she said, and then after that, she really doesn't, she doesn't see them till later in the night because the father gets them.
58:01 Stryker So they're married still, but they don't live together?
58:03 Stryker No, no, those are not even his kids.
58:06 Adam That's what I was going to ask you. Are all four of the children the same father?
58:10 Stryker They have two different fathers, three boys and a girl.
58:13 Adam Has she been married twice or just once?
58:15 Stryker She's been married once.
58:17 Stryker All right, Jerry, I'm going to pull Ace Rockolla here. Man, you're only 20 years old. She's 25. She's got four kids. She's been married before. She's got kids everywhere. Man, forget her. Find another 25-year-old with no kids, with no baggage.
58:30 Drew She's not. There's something totally screwed up about her because she's not doing her job. I mean, any parent with half their screws intact would be with their kids if they had four kids. She's got screws loose all over the place. Is she a drug addict?
58:47 Stryker No, she's not. And I mean, I told her to stay with her husband at one time, and I told her that I was going to leave it alone, and I said that I was going to go find a new place to live, and she just went berserk. She started going berserk. She threatened to kill and everything.
58:58 Drew All right. Jerry, isn't that a hint that there's something really seriously wrong with this person?
59:03 Stryker But I do want to help her, though.
59:04 Adam That's what I was going to say, Jerry, is that I think that probably what's happening is maybe you want to leave the situation and then you feel guilty and...
59:14 Stryker Well, yeah, because I don't want to leave her husband like that and I don't want to leave her kids like that with a mom like that, you know. I mean, it's not my place to fix it, but I mean, it's just for the sake of her kids. Her kids, you know, are wonderful and they don't deserve to be tossed around, you know.
59:29 Stryker But you don't need to be the Savior, especially a 20 years old man.
59:33 Adam Well, and it's awfully hard in those situations to be the Savior because I doubt anyone will ever let you. And that's, you know.
59:40 Stryker Yeah, that's what my mom was telling me.
59:41 Adam Yeah, it's unfortunate, but true.
59:45 Drew Oh, Jerry.
59:47 Stryker Good luck, Jerry.
59:47 Stryker All right.
59:48 Stryker Okay, man.
59:49 Stryker Oh, man.
59:50 Stryker Drew, I love when all of a sudden you're talking and they keep talking, you're like, oh, Jesus Christ. All right, it's Loveline and Misty, you're 20.
59:58 Stryker Yeah.
59:59 Stryker Hi.
59:59 Stryker I have a question. I've like not been able to reach orgasm with my partner. And it is kind of like a sudden thing. I have been with my partner for a few years now and then I moved away and went to go visit for Christmas and just was having a hell of a time.
1:00:17 Drew We can't follow you.
1:00:18 Stryker Huh? Well, I'm trying to reach orgasm with my partner.
1:00:22 Drew Since Christmas?
1:00:23 Stryker Well, when I went back to visit her during Christmas.
1:00:26 Drew And you were just there for a short while.
1:00:28 Stryker Yeah, about a week.
1:00:29 Drew Were you on medication?
1:00:30 Stryker No.
1:00:31 Stryker Was it cold?
1:00:33 Stryker Yeah.
1:00:33 Drew Were you anxious or upset or disturbed?
1:00:37 Stryker I was pretty content being with my partner.
1:00:40 Drew Was there anything going on with her?
1:00:43 Stryker Not that I know of. She didn't seem any different. I mean.
1:00:47 Drew You sure you weren't taking any new birth control? No, you wouldn't be on birth control. Any new medicines or anything? Nothing?
1:00:52 Stryker No.
1:00:54 Adam But you went back to see her so y'all had been separated for a while?
1:00:56 Stryker Yeah.
1:00:58 Adam Do you think maybe your feelings changed at all when you were apart and you feel like they shouldn't have changed so you're trying to pretend as if they're the same but maybe they might not be?
1:01:09 Stryker It would be unknown to me. I mean, I really love her and I haven't changed.
1:01:14 Drew Could maybe her feelings have changed and you were picking up on that but not really sort of dealing with it?
1:01:20 Stryker It's possible. I'm not real sure. It just seems that, you know, I'm moving back to visit her. Well, not just to visit, just to move back.
1:01:27 Drew Well, Emily backed me up on this one. When it comes to women, the emotional piece of the relationship is extremely important to sexual functioning.
1:01:35 Adam I believe that it's both sides. Yeah.
1:01:38 Drew Both sides. Whether it's what's coming at you or what you're giving out to what you're feeling internally.
1:01:42 Adam And you may even be having anxiety about moving to where she is to be with her. And you may be feeling anxious about that in some way in the back of your brain that you're not even accessing. You might feel like you're giving up a lot and so to give up fully and completely may just be a little overwhelming at the moment and that's fine. I think that happens.
1:02:06 Stryker I would believe that other than the fact that I gave up what I had to come where I am now.
1:02:11 Adam To be with her?
1:02:12 Stryker No, to go and start part of my life, my extended, my schooling and whatnot.
1:02:20 Adam Right.
1:02:20 Stryker And I'm going back to my house, to my friends, to my life.
1:02:27 Drew I don't think she was following you there, Emily.
1:02:29 Stryker My whole thing is that I can't even reach orgasm with myself.
1:02:33 Stryker Are you depressed?
1:02:34 Adam Maybe you just have a lot of anxiety because if what I'm understanding is correct, you moved away from where you were living to go to school and to do something for yourself and left somebody behind. And were you happy about that choice? Did you enjoy where you went to school and had a good experience? Yeah, I was very excited up until about a month ago, which is when you decided to go back to where you were from. Yeah, seems like you have a lot of anxiety about that and you're maybe not so happy about going back.
1:03:03 Drew Yeah, my sense is, I mean, how great could it have been if you decided to leave, Misty, plus you left a relationship. I mean, you just seem to be high levels of denial about what you're feeling emotionally. Try to tune in to what's really going on here.
1:03:17 Stryker And as Drew was saying to you, Emily, you being the female, maybe because I mean, I'm a guy. I don't know, you know, the stock market could crash. I could lose my job. I could still have sex.
1:03:25 Adam You guys have it so easy.
1:03:27 Stryker The girls need the mental.
1:03:29 Adam You got it.
1:03:30 Stryker They need everything going on.
1:03:31 Adam Yeah, but I can understand that feeling. I think you're just having a lot of anxiety about having to go backwards in your life. And I think it's it's probably shutting you down in that area. And I would look there first. I don't think it's I think it's your emotion and not really anything physical.
1:03:46 Emily Procter with Stryker All right.
1:03:47 Stryker 1-800-LOVE-191 is a number. It's Loveline. I'm Stryker in for Mr. Rockolla. Christina, you're 15.
1:03:53 Emily Procter with Stryker Hello. Hi. Yeah. I had a question for Emily.
1:03:58 Stryker Yeah.
1:03:58 Emily Procter with Stryker Um, actually, I was wondering what it's like to work with Rob Lowe.
1:04:03 Adam Oh, my God.
1:04:04 Stryker He's so dreamy.
1:04:05 Stryker It's awesome. I love him.
1:04:06 Stryker Oh, my God. He's bald on his chest. I just want to lick it.
1:04:10 Stryker Yeah, he's really gorgeous.
1:04:12 Adam Stryker has his own little fantasy going on over here. But I do have to say, um, one of the most exciting things for me about Rob is that he's incredibly funny and he's great to be around. And he does this thing where he just looks at you when you're talking to him and he just seems so captivated by you. And I, I just am constantly in love with that. I'm like, oh, I think I must be really charming. He's just staring at me like I'm so great. And he's just super sweet and he's lovely. And, um, and I should add that he is also happily married with Duquesne. So all we can do, you know, is...
1:04:53 Stryker So you're saying I have no chance.
1:04:55 Adam Stryker is over with you and Rob. He wanted me to pass that along. And he's great. He's great to work with. He's just a joy.
1:05:03 Stryker Yeah, I really like the show. I watch every week.
1:05:05 Adam So thank you so much. I do, too.
1:05:10 Stryker Bye bye.
1:05:11 Adam Bye.
1:05:11 Stryker Bye.
1:05:12 Stryker You know, Rob Lowe, he is a funny guy. He was in the Waynes World. He's good.
1:05:16 Adam Yeah. And now it's kind of I have to say, it's kind of a dude ranch over there on the West Wing. We have, you know, we have Martin and we have John and we have Richard and we have Bradley and we have Duway. And, you know, there's there's no shortage.
1:05:32 Stryker All right. Now I'm sure, you know, a few of them are listening. Who out there? Not on your show.
1:05:37 Adam I'm sure they're asleep. They probably have to get up in four hours.
1:05:40 Stryker Who is really hunky out there that you would maybe like to go on a date with?
1:05:43 Adam In the world?
1:05:44 Stryker That's right.
1:05:48 Adam You guys.
1:05:48 Stryker Come on, come on, Procter, Emily.
1:05:52 Adam I don't know. I mean, the world is my oyster. I really kind of have to think about it for a second.
1:05:57 Stryker No, no, you see dreamy people on TV. Antonio Cebado Jr. Okay, we'll move on.
1:06:07 Stryker I'm stumped.
1:06:09 Adam Stryker wants to know. I'll think about it.
1:06:11 Drew I just want to know if I'm in, if, you know, he wants to change himself to make him into your type.
1:06:15 Stryker Yeah.
1:06:15 Adam You have a great personality, honestly. That is like my boyfriend's physically are kind of a hodgepodge. They're all funny, nice people. That's kind of what I'm into.
1:06:25 Stryker So it's like one a thousand or one in a more like one in a million.
1:06:28 Drew So you're saying Amelia, you're 18 on Love Line Shaved down tonight. You bet. Amelia.
1:06:38 Adam I'm on the phone.
1:06:39 Stryker Yeah.
1:06:40 Stryker Hi there. Lovely lady. You're 18 on Love Line.
1:06:42 Stryker Hello. I've been with my boyfriend for like a year. And this past week, I haven't been able to enjoy having an intercourse with him at all. And I've been feeling sick like I'm going to throw up like afterwards.
1:06:56 Drew Any pain when you pee?
1:06:59 Stryker No. And like the next day, like this is that night and like the next day urine comes out. Like I have to go to the bathroom.
1:07:06 Drew And there's no pain, no burning?
1:07:07 Stryker No, there's pain. I don't know what...
1:07:10 Drew I'm just telling you, I'm telling you, you have a urine infection. You got to get that treated immediately. That can get up into your kidneys. And the fact that you're having nausea does suggest that it might even be getting there already. And that could be very dangerous.
1:07:19 Stryker What kind of doctor does she need to go see?
1:07:21 Drew Anybody. It's very simple to treat. But you've got to be seen immediately.
1:07:24 Stryker Okay. Thank you.
1:07:26 Adam And if you don't want to have anybody take you, can't you just go into one of those immediate care facilities?
1:07:30 Stryker Sure.
1:07:30 Drew I'd take you. There's nothing to this, but you've got to get it diagnosed properly. Make sure it's not an STD, which I doubt it. It just sounds like a plain old urine infection.
1:07:38 Stryker Okay. All right.
1:07:39 Stryker Bye, Amelia.
1:07:40 Stryker Bye.
1:07:40 Stryker All right. Let's talk to John. You're 19 on Loveline.
1:07:43 Stryker Hey, what's going on, guys?
1:07:44 Stryker What's up? Hey.
1:07:46 Stryker Listen to your show all the time, man. It's a good show.
1:07:48 Stryker Yeah, I do well.
1:07:50 Stryker But actually, I got a quick question for Drew.
1:07:53 Stryker Yeah.
1:07:55 Stryker Good bunny of mine, just like recently started getting pretty weird. He what we believed to do happened to him was he got addicted to crank. And some girl just like came up out of nowhere. He met her the other day. Well, he was skateboarding up to the school. And he just went on this big crank binge and she absolutely lost his mind. She he let her charge a bunch of bills to his credit card. She robbed a bunch of stuff from his house. And I just want to know, like, I don't know what did how I can how I can help this guy. You know, like we we tried sending them back to his parents' house.
1:08:27 Drew And what happened?
1:08:28 Stryker Which lives down in LA. But we think he bailed off the bus before he actually got home. And I was kind of worried about the guy because call his parents.
1:08:39 Drew He needs to be in treatment needs to be in a hospital.
1:08:41 Stryker We've already tried that.
1:08:42 Drew What happens?
1:08:44 Stryker We can't get him down there. I mean, we all work. It's not like we can just take the time off.
1:08:48 Drew You called his parents?
1:08:49 Stryker Yeah, we physically called his parents.
1:08:51 Drew And what did they say?
1:08:52 Stryker They said send them our way, you know, but I mean, Can you get him in a hospital there locally? We can't really. We don't really have the authority. I mean, it would pretty much take us just kicking the crap out of them.
1:09:02 Drew Well, I'll tell you what.
1:09:03 Stryker Shipping them there to get them to.
1:09:05 Drew What normally will get the attention of an addict is their friends withdrawing from them, not being willing to have anything to do with him so far as he is in his disease.
1:09:13 Stryker It seems like he's doing it to them.
1:09:16 Adam Yeah, it seems like he's finding new friends.
1:09:17 Drew He is an addict, John.
1:09:19 Stryker He's never really gotten into anything like this, you know? This is just like...
1:09:22 Drew He is an addict.
1:09:23 Stryker He's had like mental problems before this.
1:09:25 Drew I understand. He is an addict. Maybe he's not an addict, at least based on what you're telling me, I can't say categorically he is, but I can tell you he's got issues with chemicals and he's got significant mental health issues and it sounds like he needs to be in a very contained environment for a while.
1:09:42 Stryker I mean, can I run some of the stuff that he does by you, just like get maybe a basic grasp of his problem? I mean, the kind of stuff he does, he's really paranoid. That's speed. Like there's this one girl and he was dating her for like maybe two months and after just like one day he just starts coming home and swearing that like people that haven't even seen this girl slept with her.
1:10:04 Drew Yeah.
1:10:04 Stryker Like and he gets paranoid to the point where he's like willing to hurt people over it, you know?
1:10:09 Drew He probably is doing speed regularly.
1:10:10 Stryker He's an addict.
1:10:11 Drew Well, not necessarily. Maybe schizophrenic. He may be bipolar.
1:10:14 Stryker You said that ten times in a row.
1:10:15 Drew But he's got definitely got issues with chemicals.
1:10:17 Stryker I've had problems before.
1:10:18 Drew He needs to, look, he needs to be in a facility.
1:10:22 Stryker But how can we get this guy there? I mean, he's unwilling to.
1:10:25 Drew If he gets severely paranoid or is greatly disabled, you call the police, call them, you know, have them intervene. You've got, you must, it's life-saving importance to him. You must use whatever leverage you have.
1:10:36 Stryker What's the number one thing John can do to help us?
1:10:39 Drew The number one thing is to induce loss. That loss is what gets the attention of people, is to withdraw from, not have anything to do with the lives of people who are not.
1:10:47 Stryker The girl's already done all kinds of damage. She, she ran into the U-Haul truck on the truck.
1:10:51 Drew Well, John, I guess there's nothing.
1:10:52 Stryker And then ran away and she stole it.
1:10:53 Drew Well, John, there's nothing you can do.
1:10:54 Stryker Yeah, he's done.
1:10:55 Adam Yeah, it seems like in this situation that...
1:10:57 Drew I mean, I'm giving you lots of advice. And you want to argue with me on every single point.
1:11:00 Stryker Oh, by no means, by no means.
1:11:02 Drew You can call the police.
1:11:04 Stryker I don't want to call the police on the guy.
1:11:05 Drew Why not? Do you want to save his life? Do you want to help him or not?
1:11:08 Stryker Yeah, but I mean...
1:11:09 Drew It requires very serious intervention. He is ill.
1:11:12 Stryker Man, that's tough. He's 19. That'd be so tough.
1:11:15 Stryker Well, I'm 19. I don't... No, no. He's 22.
1:11:17 Stryker No, but you're not... I'm just saying, because you're 19, I mean, if... I was put in that position, I don't know if I could do it, but you have to do it. And in the long run, he's disabled.
1:11:25 Adam Well, that's what I was going to say. It seems like in this situation, John, you might seem like there might be kind of a middle-of-the-road answer, but there isn't.
1:11:33 Drew There's no easy way out in this situation. The only way for you is to, if you don't want to step up and really do something, you can withdraw from him and not be a part of his life insofar as he has not taken care of himself. That will get his attention, but if you actually want to do something, it's going to require a military force.
1:11:49 Adam Yeah, because at this point, once someone is an addict, there's no talking them rationally out of it.
1:11:55 Drew Somebody's paranoid, whether it's because they're bipolar or an addict, you can't do not even open your mouth. You're wasting your time. It requires high level structure like police.
1:12:04 Stryker All right, we got to take a quick break. Emily Proctor is here from the West Wing. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. The number if you guys want to call in 1-800-LOVE-191. Ace Rockolla is gone. I'm Stryker with Dr. Drew, more Loveline after this. Let's go. That newfound glory is good. I'm Stryker, it's Loveline along with Dr. Drew, 1-800-LOVE-191. Doctor, you just went to the restroom.
1:12:58 Drew I did.
1:12:59 Stryker Did you wash your hands?
1:13:00 Drew Did not.
1:13:01 Stryker Like last time I was here, you did not.
1:13:03 Drew Not late at night. Too lazy.
1:13:05 Stryker Then I'm not going to kiss you goodbye this time.
1:13:06 Drew Don't. All right.
1:13:07 Stryker I will not. Emily Proctor is here from the West Wing, and she is glossing up her lips as I speak. Let's see. What shade is that?
1:13:15 Stryker Apricot?
1:13:16 Adam It's actually this stuff called, it's Solve. It's Rosebud Solve. It's good for.
1:13:22 Drew Chaplips?
1:13:22 Stryker Everything.
1:13:23 Adam It says for lips, for blemishes, for diaper rash and detergent burn, which I don't really ever experience.
1:13:29 Stryker Crohn's disease?
1:13:30 Drew Side to side.
1:13:31 Stryker Exactly.
1:13:32 Drew Wow.
1:13:32 Adam Eczema?
1:13:33 Stryker What's the name of your character on the West Wing again?
1:13:35 Adam I play Ainsley.
1:13:36 Stryker Ainsley. Now, the reason why I seem like I don't know that much about the show is I'm on the radio normally right when it's on, so I don't get to see it a lot.
1:13:43 Drew You know what?
1:13:43 Adam I will not fault you for that.
1:13:45 Drew Well, yes, you should because that no longer is a reasonable excuse with the day of TiVo and playback and all this stuff. I'm not a high roll like you.
1:13:52 Adam You're an evil man.
1:13:55 Stryker I don't have the women are from Mars, men are from Venus show yet. Once I get that, I'll get the satellite, the spice channel and the scramble.
1:14:03 Adam You'll get cable.
1:14:04 Stryker That's right. I'll get cable. I'll get a VCR instead of my beta machine. Get rid of my rotary phone for god's sakes. Josh, you're 18 on Loveline.
1:14:15 Hi.
1:14:16 Stryker Dr. Drew, quickly before, I just wanted to tell you that you inspired me to go to the city and now I speak at middle schools about drug abuse and alcohol abuse.
1:14:26 Drew Congratulations. You're recovering?
1:14:27 Stryker Things like that.
1:14:28 Drew You're recovering?
1:14:29 Stryker What?
1:14:29 Drew You're a recovering person or you're just in the field?
1:14:34 Stryker I went through the schools and they do a really bad job of explaining it.
1:14:37 Drew Good for you.
1:14:38 Stryker And I wanted to give the kids another percent.
1:14:40 Drew That is awesome. Congratulations.
1:14:42 Stryker And I also have my own line in my room that kids can call.
1:14:45 Adam Oh, that's so great.
1:14:48 Drew That is huge.
1:14:49 Stryker Yeah. I'm pretty proud and I'm working on getting more of my friends involved as well.
1:14:53 Adam You should be proud. That's a huge accomplishment.
1:14:57 Stryker But my question was, I have a friend and he said I had to see this adult movie. And I'm not really into that. But so I watch it and it some of the stuff betrayed was, you know, like hardcore, you know? And my girlfriend walked in on it too. And she saw it. And I guess she thought this is what I wanted in bed. And, you know, I really didn't want that. And I told her this a couple of times.
1:15:24 Stryker Josh, what was it in the porn that she saw?
1:15:28 Stryker I don't know. Not quite as bad as like choking. But, um, anal and just kind of like hard, you know, not loving. Kind of like the animal stuff that Adam always talks about.
1:15:41 Drew Right. Are you sure that's not what she wanted? Or maybe that sort of freed her up to do it?
1:15:45 Stryker I said, you know, if you want it, you know, I guess we could meet in the middle. And, you know, she's like, no, but this is what you want. I'm like, no, it's not. And I'm wondering if there's something wrong with her or I just can't get it in her head that that's not what I want.
1:16:00 Drew And I don't know if she won't believe you. There's something wrong.
1:16:03 Stryker It's really weird.
1:16:04 Drew Yeah. That if she can't accept your feelings and can't trust that you're being honest with her, that's an issue.
1:16:09 Stryker That's kind of what I told her. I'm pretty sensitive.
1:16:12 Drew And I wonder if it's something that she actually wants, but is embarrassed to tell you.
1:16:15 Adam That's what I was going to say. She might just be embarrassed when she figured out that that wasn't actually what you wanted. She might have felt a little too.
1:16:21 Stryker It's not as bad as choking. She's, I don't know, she wanted to try anal and I said no.
1:16:27 Drew Well, some people like aggressive interaction physically and that's them. That's fine.
1:16:35 Stryker So is there anything that I can do about that?
1:16:37 Stryker Well, ask her straight out. Do you want it rough or do you want to get back?
1:16:42 Drew Here's sort of a threshold experience that tends to create people that like rough trade and that would be physical abuse in childhood and he kind of, he's being struck with things, that kind of stuff, that tends to translate into that kind of sexual behavior.
1:16:59 Stryker Well, I've read a book on that and I've talked to some people on the hotline and I don't know, we, me and my girlfriend talk about the stuff and she comes from really good family. I'm really close with her family.
1:17:10 Drew They may have whacked her a couple of times when she was growing up.
1:17:12 Stryker Okay, well I'll talk to you about that.
1:17:13 Drew Yeah, and that would sort of let you know that maybe she is into it more than she's willing to admit.
1:17:18 Stryker And if not, maybe she just does like it. Is it just built into it that she has to have it? Or is it something that we need to break up over? Or can we obviously work it out with some...
1:17:28 Drew I think you can work it out. I think you can work it out. I don't have my counseling, but I think you'll work it out with communication.
1:17:33 Stryker Maybe you should ever call your phone line in your room.
1:17:36 Drew I think you need to calm down a little bit. I mean, just because she likes a certain type of behavior doesn't mean there's anything wrong with her. It's sort of challenging your notion about her, you know, what your perceptions of femininity are. It sounds like to me. And that's just something she's into. And that's fine.
1:17:50 Stryker OK, thank you.
1:17:52 Stryker Later. And he's only 18. I mean, not that I'm so experienced.
1:17:56 Drew He just a little freaked out.
1:17:57 Stryker He may like that rough stuff.
1:17:59 Adam I'm just still trying to get past the fact that Dr. Drew just said rough trade on the air.
1:18:06 Stryker Oh, my God.
1:18:07 Drew Adam isn't here. So I've got to play that role, too.
1:18:11 Stryker James?
1:18:12 Stryker Yeah.
1:18:13 Stryker Yeah. You're 19 on Loveline.
1:18:14 Stryker Hey, my question is, is I, you know, go out with girls and stuff like that. And I say like about after maybe a week or so, we end up having sex and like, I'm really into them and everything. But after we have sex, it's like, I don't even want to be around them or anything anymore.
1:18:33 Drew That would make you normal. 19.
1:18:35 Stryker Yeah.
1:18:36 Adam I mean, I'm just a conquistador.
1:18:38 Drew Unfortunately. Yeah. Unfortunately, that's 19 year old male behavior.
1:18:41 Definitely. Okay.
1:18:42 Stryker I was just kind of worried, you know, because I like relationships.
1:18:45 Drew Yeah. You should be worried and it's very healthy that you're worried. And see if you can channel that desire for relationships into something more productive, like really focus on the relationship, not the sexual conquest. So like maybe wait longer to have a relationship and then for whatever reason, you start sort of degrading and demeaning women in your mind after you've had sex with them. Maybe that won't happen if you actually develop intimacy with them before you have sex.
1:19:08 Adam And that's what I was going to say. I think it's probably a natural human response to feel very exposed when you're first starting to have sex. And maybe you feel very exposed afterwards and it makes it difficult for you to consider having a relationship with them. And maybe if you valued yourself and them in the relationship for a little bit longer before you had sex, it might be easier.
1:19:30 Stryker Definitely. But at 19, guys have a checklist. Second date, breasts. Third date, the baldness down below. Fourth date, we have sex. And then once he gets that checklist done, he wants to move on. So now his checklist should be favorite color, favorite song, favorite month of the year.
1:19:48 Adam But it could be, you know, it could be maybe you feeling awkward also.
1:19:53 Drew Yeah, it could be. Interesting. I've never thought about being kind to a 19-year-old male, but you're right.
1:19:58 Stryker We have had so many sensitive men call tonight. Not that he was, but have you noticed that?
1:20:03 Drew Because Adam's not here.
1:20:04 Stryker A lot of wussies. Jesus. Oh, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding.
1:20:07 Adam I was going to say, I'll go up against you on that one story.
1:20:11 Stryker Gosh.
1:20:12 Stryker Jennifer?
1:20:13 Stryker Yeah.
1:20:13 Stryker Hi there. You're on Loveline and you're 27.
1:20:15 Stryker I am. I am about to start the 11th day of a period, and I'm just really confused because I only have about five or six day period at the most. I have an IUD.
1:20:28 Stryker Oh, yeesh.
1:20:30 Stryker Go ahead.
1:20:31 Adam Well, I was going to say, I do know from people that I know that have them, and that that is one of the side effects of having one is that you have a heavier and a longer period.
1:20:40 Stryker Right.
1:20:40 Stryker And I've had it now for over a year. And originally I did have heavier flow.
1:20:46 Emily Procter with Stryker I don't anymore.
1:20:47 Drew And well, now you do again. Why do you have an IUD at 27? How many kids do you have?
1:20:52 Stryker Two kids. I'm done, but my husband's not willing to go get snipped.
1:20:56 Drew All right. Listen, starting new medications or anything lately?
1:21:00 Stryker Well, actually I have. I had a really bad car accident in December.
1:21:04 Drew All right. Well, that's what medicine you're taking?
1:21:07 Stryker At this point, I'm not. I just recently stopped taking everything.
1:21:11 Drew Like anti-inflammatory, Celebrex, that kind of thing?
1:21:14 Stryker Anti-inflammatory pain reliever.
1:21:16 Drew Well, that's what's probably what's screwing you up. You need to make sure there's not an infection, which is the other thing that can happen. Uterine infections when you have an IUD. But the heavy bleeding ought to be checked by the gynecologist. But I bet it's just all those medicines you've been taking.
1:21:28 Adam And I do know, too, just from my friends who have had children, that seems to have become the birth control of choice for them, also. And they have said that that is kind of a side effect of it. But they've been happy with it.
1:21:41 Stryker All right, we have to take a quick break. Emily Procter is here. She is from the...
1:21:45 Adam We just had our first fight.
1:21:47 Stryker We did? Oh, my God, I can't believe it.
1:21:49 Stryker We'll make up over the break.
1:21:50 Stryker OK, I'm ready. She's from the West Wing. She's the blonde, the younger girl. You're the Republican?
1:21:57 Adam I'm the Republican blonde. We have a Democrat blonde and a Republican.
1:22:00 Stryker And you put Rob in his place.
1:22:02 Adam Oh, thanks for saying that.
1:22:03 Stryker And then he looks at you with the eyes and you start melting.
1:22:05 Adam I do.
1:22:06 Stryker All hell breaks loose. 1-800-LOVE-191 is the number and more Loveline right after this. All right, we're back. It's the Loveline. 1-800-LOVE-191. Emily Procter is here from the West Wing doing a fantastic job in here. You're just giving great advice from the female perspective.
1:22:55 Stryker Thank you for saying that.
1:22:56 Adam I was a little nervous. Because, you know, we're speaking in such a closed environment, and here, I was wondering if I was being, you know, normal.
1:23:05 Stryker Oh, you're definitely being normal. And do you have to be on set tomorrow and act and do lines and anything?
1:23:10 Adam I get to try on clothes for Ainsley tomorrow, which is something that I love to do.
1:23:15 Stryker Right. And do you get to keep wardrobe?
1:23:16 Stryker No.
1:23:17 Stryker Not at all?
1:23:17 Stryker No.
1:23:18 Stryker Would you keep the Ainsley wardrobe?
1:23:19 Adam I stole a bra.
1:23:20 Stryker You did?
1:23:21 Stryker They give you even down to the bra?
1:23:23 Stryker They're really clothing you these days.
1:23:24 Adam Yeah.
1:23:25 Stryker Actually, where I did this...
1:23:26 Adam Well, sometimes, you know, styles today, you forget to wear one and then they'll give you one.
1:23:30 Stryker You forgot to wear one?
1:23:31 Adam Well, you know, tank tops.
1:23:32 Stryker Right.
1:23:33 Stryker Yeah.
1:23:34 Adam There again, I'm revealing myself on the air.
1:23:35 Drew You're a free spirit, aren't you?
1:23:38 Stryker I figure you're from Berkeley, but you're from one of the Carolinas.
1:23:41 Stryker I'm from North Carolina.
1:23:42 Adam There's a conservative side in there also. Like I'm talking about it, which is the left side, but I'm feeling, you know, exposed about it. That's the conservative side.
1:23:52 Stryker Kind of like you're on both sides of the fence here. You you shave everything, yet you won't wear a bra.
1:23:58 Stryker Oh, now I didn't.
1:23:59 Stryker I didn't.
1:24:01 Drew Come on.
1:24:02 Stryker We should take a call.
1:24:02 Drew All right.
1:24:03 Stryker Let's take a call here. I'm sorry. No, you're she's wonderful.
1:24:06 Drew All right.
1:24:06 Adam Now we're fighting again. I'm not talking to you now, Michael.
1:24:09 Stryker Michael, you're 19 on Loveline.
1:24:12 Yeah. How's it going, guys?
1:24:12 Drew Good.
1:24:13 Love the show. Oh, oh, I like the K-Rock show. I don't watch the West Wing. My mom does.
1:24:19 Adam I'm sorry, Michael. I just got so excited. And I was feeling really popular for a second. I thought you were talking to me.
1:24:26 Stryker My parents love the West Wing.
1:24:27 Adam Thank you.
1:24:27 Stryker I'll say thank you to that.
1:24:29 At least I'm honest.
1:24:31 Adam Oh, no, no, no. I'm just, you know, embarrassed.
1:24:33 What's going on, Mike? Well, I've been in with my girlfriend for about a year and a half now. In the beginning, I was really, like, optimistic about it. I was just like, oh, yeah, like, I really like into this girl and everything and, you know, all this stuff. And, like, over the years, it seems that we've traded places. Like, she's more optimistic about it now, but now I'm more like...
1:24:56 Drew What does optimistic means?
1:24:57 Like, I was just, like, sure that, you know, it'd go for a really long time. And, you know, it did. I mean, it's like a year and a half.
1:25:02 Drew Yeah, I mean, a 19-year-old year is a lifetime.
1:25:05 Yeah. But it's just like...
1:25:08 Drew You're done.
1:25:09 Stryker You're 19 and you want to experiment now?
1:25:11 Drew Yeah, you're done. Mike, it's painful. You certainly want to protect her feelings, somebody you care about very much, but you're done.
1:25:19 So you're saying it's pretty much over?
1:25:20 Drew What you're saying, you're saying it's pretty much over.
1:25:22 Adam Well, I would say from the female perspective, and it could indeed be over, but I do find a lot of times that in a relationship, you trade places. There is times when you're both into it an equal amount, and some times where you can be more into it, and the man could be more into it at certain points. And so it could either be over, or you could be in a phase where you're just not as into it.
1:25:45 Yeah, the thing is, like, I was wondering what, what maybe was kind of like making me wonder that, like why I want to go on. Like there was some like things that I didn't know about in the beginning, and she totally just like blew my face, like in the middle of the relationship.
1:25:59 Drew Like what?
1:26:00 Well, OK, like maybe nine months into it, she was just like, OK, like I would receive oral section from her like every day of the week, you know, and I was just like, oh, my God, like, I don't think like any girl would like to do this for like every day forever, you know, every day of the week. So I asked her, I go, what's up with this? You know, I mean, I don't mind, but.
1:26:22 Stryker Why would you even bring it up? Accept it, man. You're the king of the world.
1:26:25 Stryker You're the luckiest man on earth.
1:26:27 Stryker I traded shoes with you in a heartbeat.
1:26:29 Drew So you brought it up and.
1:26:30 And then she was just like, well, when I was at, when I was eight years old, my my older cousin molested me. Oh boy. He would make me like, give her like, get him oral sex. I was like, oh my gosh. And that freaked me out, you know? And I was just like, what do I do? You know, like, how do I handle this?
1:26:50 Drew Yeah. Well, you certainly don't want to reenact the trauma. Oh, no.
1:26:54 After that, I really like, she's like, yeah, I want to. I'm like, no, it's okay. You know, I'll just, I give up like some excuse, like, oh, I got to do homework or whatever.
1:27:02 Drew You know, how did she deal with that?
1:27:05 She seems pretty stable right now, but like it comes up a lot.
1:27:10 Drew What does?
1:27:11 Just like, she's really sexual.
1:27:13 Drew Yeah.
1:27:14 She's just very, like she has this big sex drive.
1:27:17 Drew That's what, how you create a sexual compulsive is a sexual abuse in childhood often creates that.
1:27:22 Stryker Or you go the opposite way.
1:27:23 Drew Or you shut down. They call these trajectories that people go down once they've been sexually abused. And it's probably some, some neural circuitry that gets opened up prematurely.
1:27:32 And then like, I mean, that's another factor that kind of scared me off about it.
1:27:36 Drew Yeah.
1:27:37 Stryker So is that the main thing?
1:27:38 Like before me, she had like a string of like, not abusive, like physically, but like, you know, like verbally.
1:27:46 Drew And also like her last boyfriend was this big drunk and, you know, I hate to, I mean, this has probably been an extremely healthy thing for her to be with you, frankly. Yeah.
1:27:54 I mean, I'm like, I'm not one to brag, but I mean, I'm like, I'm like the straight edge guy and I'm doing like alcohol.
1:28:00 Drew No, no, I understand. It's been great for her. And you've been able to set some limits and hold boundaries with her. And it's been very, very important for her. But the fact is your feelings have changed and you may need to help her sort of deal with that. Yeah.
1:28:10 That's the thing that I was scared about. It's like after all these like bad boyfriends, you know, here comes the gem, you know?
1:28:15 Right.
1:28:16 Adam Well, you will remain a gem regardless. I mean, to have had a wonderful love relationship with someone for a year and a half, well, you know, it stays with you for the rest of your life.
1:28:25 Drew However, that transition out can be very painful, which is why did I let myself open myself to this pain again?
1:28:31 Yeah.
1:28:32 Drew You know, she could start acting out.
1:28:33 That's what really worried me.
1:28:35 Drew But that's not your responsibility, Mike, but what would be great is if we could get her into some kind of counseling so she has some structure to fall back on.
1:28:42 She goes into counseling already. She's very open-minded about those things.
1:28:48 Drew What if you went in there with her and started speaking your mind about your ambivalence about the relationship?
1:28:52 Adam That's a great idea.
1:28:53 Yeah. It's just like she goes to counseling and she talks to her counselor about me.
1:28:57 Drew Why don't you go and see if you can go into a counseling session in a safe environment and begin to tell her more about how you're feeling now.
1:29:05 The thing is we're not very, we're very open to each other. I'll explain like last night how to feel like emotional talk in there.
1:29:12 Drew Hey Mike, why wouldn't you go into the therapy session with her?
1:29:15 Stryker Maybe he wants to break up with her not because of these past problems, but it's been a year and a half and he wants to move on.
1:29:19 Drew I think absolutely it is. In fact, he would have gone on quicker had he not been feeling so responsible for her. That's the way teenage relationships are supposed to go. They always go a little longer than they should.
1:29:29 Adam It's very natural for all relationships to change. Just because you may move on from being lovers, you can be friends. I mean, it can just change.
1:29:41 Another thing about the friends issue, I went to the website and she gave me all this stuff. Then it was the Dr. Drew website and everything. It said not to just be friends. It said if you're going to break it off, just break it off.
1:29:53 Drew Well, I did say it. I have said that many times. However, this situation, I can't say that necessarily is the way this ought to go. I can say, however, that you need to give her a safe environment to begin delivering these messages and she has a therapist and you should go in there with her and let the therapist guide her on whether or not to maintain a relationship or whether it's better for her to cut it off completely.
1:30:16 Adam I think that's great advice.
1:30:18 Stryker Rita.
1:30:19 Drew Rita?
1:30:20 Adam Yes?
1:30:21 Stryker Hi, you're 20 on Loveline.
1:30:22 Adam Hi.
1:30:23 Emily Procter with Stryker My question is, is this, about a week ago, my boyfriend got engaged and, you know, I love him to death and just this last week, my love is like, it's different now.
1:30:37 Stryker I look at him differently.
1:30:38 Emily Procter with Stryker Is that normal?
1:30:39 Drew Because you got engaged?
1:30:41 Emily Procter with Stryker Yeah.
1:30:41 Drew What is the difference?
1:30:43 Stryker I don't know.
1:30:44 Stryker I mean, it's just different.
1:30:45 Emily Procter with Stryker I mean, I look at him every day thinking, oh, I'm going to be stuck with him for the rest of my life, but I'm happy for that.
1:30:53 Drew Stuck with him is not the kinds of language. There's something going on there. That's the kind of language you like to be rolling through your head as it pertains to your future. I agree. I agree. Strangely, people do look at each other differently when they get married, but it's supposed to be better. It was for me.
1:31:08 Stryker I feel like it's better.
1:31:09 Stryker I just, is it normal to look at him differently now?
1:31:12 Drew But usually better, but then more negative feeling. I would-
1:31:15 Adam Well, how long have you been engaged, did you say?
1:31:18 Stryker Just a week.
1:31:19 Adam You may just be going through some sort of re-evaluation process where you're giving yourself another higher stakes checklist. And I think that you should give yourself a grace period and if it continues, you should look at the relationship again.
1:31:33 Drew And some premarital counseling.
1:31:34 Adam You know, change is hard. You've agreed to take on a big change and you may just be adjusting for that because it's only been a week.
1:31:42 Drew Maybe protecting yourself, your sense of what marriage is, maybe that it's going to be a disaster and you want to avoid that. Who knows what the reason you are having these feelings but I agree.
1:31:51 Adam If you're still doing it two months from now, I think you've got to look at your relationship.
1:31:56 Emily Procter with Stryker I look at our friends and a lot of our friends are like having a lot of problems. I've been married and it scares me.
1:32:02 Adam Well, I think it's also important to remember that other people's relationships are not yours. There are a lot of examples of bad marriages out there that I wouldn't choose for myself but it's not your relationship.
1:32:13 Drew How about a little premarital counseling too that might put your mind at ease.
1:32:16 Stryker Rita, how old is this guy?
1:32:18 Emily Procter with Stryker 25.
1:32:18 Stryker And you're 20.
1:32:21 Drew We think you should be 30.
1:32:22 Adam I was going to say I wouldn't suggest that anyone get married before 30.
1:32:28 Stryker Bye Rita.
1:32:29 Emily Procter with Stryker Thanks.
1:32:29 Stryker Don't get too cold feet. 1-800-LOVE-191 is the number. Oh God, Sarah's been on hold forever and she's calling from Alaska. Sarah?
1:32:37 Stryker Yeah.
1:32:37 Stryker Hi there.
1:32:38 Stryker Hi.
1:32:38 Stryker Welcome to Loveline. What's up?
1:32:41 Emily Procter with Stryker Okay. Well, I've been dating this guy for God, almost a year, which is a really long time for me because I had a lot short relationships in the past.
1:32:51 Drew And what's going on?
1:32:52 Stryker And well, like I love him a lot.
1:32:55 Stryker I mean, we're really close.
1:32:56 Drew What's going on?
1:32:57 Emily Procter with Stryker We're, he's leaving for the military in September.
1:33:00 Drew For how long?
1:33:03 Emily Procter with Stryker Well, like 48 weeks.
1:33:06 Drew How long is that?
1:33:06 Stryker That's a hockey season plus another.
1:33:08 Drew How old is he?
1:33:09 Adam Well, 52 weeks is a year.
1:33:11 Stryker So it's just 19 in January.
1:33:13 Stryker Oh, you're 17. You love him. You like him. Do you want to stay with him?
1:33:17 Stryker I 48 weeks.
1:33:20 Stryker I love him.
1:33:21 Stryker But he, like we've been, we've had like really, really tough times.
1:33:24 Stryker And I love him a lot.
1:33:25 Drew Wait, how old is he? 19. And what are the, what are the tough times been about?
1:33:30 Emily Procter with Stryker Well, he like had lots of problems.
1:33:33 Stryker His whole family was like all alcoholic.
1:33:35 Drew Is he alcoholic?
1:33:37 Stryker What?
1:33:37 Drew Is he an addict?
1:33:38 Stryker No.
1:33:39 Stryker Thank God.
1:33:39 Stryker No.
1:33:40 Stryker He's on his way.
1:33:41 Emily Procter with Stryker He has to stuff.
1:33:42 Drew Hmm. Doesn't smoke pot, doesn't do anything. No.
1:33:45 Stryker Well, see, he used to.
1:33:46 Emily Procter with Stryker That's the whole thing. Like before I even knew him, like that was his crew. Like they all smoked pot and all that kind of stuff. And he never did any hard drugs or anything, just pot. But anyway, he, he met me.
1:33:59 Stryker And like just a month before that, he'd had some kind of rough relationship with the girl from when they broke up or something.
1:34:04 Emily Procter with Stryker And then he met me and he stopped like everything.
1:34:08 Drew Well, he will start again. I guarantee he will start again. And maybe after his military stint, but I guarantee he will start again. Guaranteed.
1:34:16 Emily Procter with Stryker I know it just doesn't seem like that.
1:34:18 Drew He will. But, you know, you're 17. You're going to send somebody away for almost a year. You're going to sacrifice that big part of your life with somebody in a tumultuous relationship.
1:34:28 Stryker I don't really think I want to wait for him.
1:34:29 Stryker All right. That's it.
1:34:32 Drew You said it.
1:34:33 Adam Well, and that's what I was going to say.
1:34:34 Stryker I love him now.
1:34:36 Drew Well, then you can enjoy your time with him. The guys will do that. Women want to sort of cut it off when they know they're not going to go any further.
1:34:42 Stryker Sarah, you're going to meet a nice Eskimo in the next few.
1:34:45 Stryker That's not funny.
1:34:48 Drew Emily, what do you want to say to her?
1:34:49 Adam Well, I was going to say, and this is one thing that took me a while to learn, but good relationships really aren't difficult. There isn't a lot of tremendous fighting that goes on and they're not an enormous amount of rough spots. Good relationships look very differently from bad ones, and it may be that you're just experiencing, he's getting ready to leave and you don't know if you want it to be over because he's getting ready to leave or because you just want it to be over, and you still have every right to be completely proud of having a year-long relationship and still want it to be over, and that's fine.
1:35:21 Drew So be it.
1:35:22 Stryker Very well said, and I'll just add two cents, and we'll take a quick break. She's only 17. For God's sakes, you'll find a new man instantly.
1:35:28 Drew All right, we got to take a quick break.
1:35:30 Stryker More on Loveline coming up after this.
1:35:34 Stryker Loveline with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.
1:35:51 Stryker All right, we're back, Loveline.
1:35:53 Stryker It's about time for us to go.
1:35:54 Stryker I've been a Stryker, a Stryker, thank you very much, Adam Corolla. Thank you for having me, Dr. Drew.
1:35:58 Drew Making this a pleasurable experience.
1:35:59 Stryker Definitely. It was very fun. I'll be back tomorrow, once again. And Emily Proctor, thank you for being such a great guest.
1:36:05 Adam Thank you so much for having me.
1:36:06 Drew West Wing, when's it on?
1:36:07 Adam Yeah, Wednesday night at 8 o'clock.
1:36:08 Stryker On what station?
1:36:09 Adam NBC.
1:36:10 Stryker Go watch it and watch Emily, the blonde. She'll be the one in the The Pretty One.
1:36:15 Stryker The Pretty One.
1:36:16 Stryker She's that one.
1:36:17 Adam What?
1:36:17 Drew Don't say that, don't say that.
1:36:19 Stryker The other one's very pretty also.
1:36:20 Drew We gotta go.
1:36:21 Stryker Loveline, see you guys tomorrow night.
1:36:23 Mahalo, lala, adios.
1:36:26 Stryker This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.