Episode 1000754887120

2:19 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.

2:30 Adam All right, we're back. It's Loveline. Dealing with me again, Stryker, with Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. One question for you, Dr. Drew. Where's your cell phone?

2:42 Drew It's, I left it at Big Brother today.

2:45 Adam All right, because I know where it's at.

2:47 Drew Where? The dress room?

2:48 Adam I got something in my pocket.

2:49 Drew You have it?

2:50 Adam I don't have the phone, but someone called me a Care Rock and said-

2:52 Drew Well, somebody just called also, called Michelle, and said the same thing.

2:55 Adam Someone has your Nextel phone.

2:56 Drew That's right.

2:57 Adam Here you go.

2:57 Drew Thank you very much.

2:59 Adam Hey!

2:59 Drew Oh, Brian's got it. Fantastic.

3:00 Adam Yeah, Brian's got the cell phone.

3:02 Drew Brian's got it.

3:02 Adam All right. Hey, how are you? Good to see you. Good to see you too.

3:06 Drew Have a seat. It's on the air now.

3:08 Adam In the studio is, she just walked in, Cindy Margolis.

3:11 Cindy Margolis Oh, yay.

3:12 Adam Hey, I'm Ted Stryker.

3:14 Cindy Margolis Wow, that was quick. Hey, Ted.

3:15 Adam Nice to meet you. All right, so the Beatles could have been outside. It was that big of a crowd.

3:21 Cindy Margolis Oh, my goodness.

3:22 Adam Were you scared out there?

3:23 Cindy Margolis I had no clue. And I was lost. I was on the phone. I said, well, I don't know where I am, but there's a big crowd of people out here. Should I stop and ask them so I can pull up? And they ask, do you know where Westwood 1K rock? Like, hello, Cindy. And they have these pictures. I'm so clueless sometimes. I'm driving myself here. I get out, look at me, and how I'm dressed.

3:41 Drew We're the ones that organize this.

3:43 Cindy Margolis Yeah.

3:43 Drew Oh, you did? But not me personally. I mean, Westwood 1, Westwood None is the driving force here.

3:49 Cindy Margolis No, I loved it. It was great. What a reception. You guys throw a party here. We throw a party. Yeah, I have to have my show from here from now on.

3:54 Adam The only bad thing is you have to deal with me instead of Corolla.

3:57 Cindy Margolis That's OK.

3:58 Drew You sure?

3:58 Cindy Margolis I'm up for it. Bring it on.

4:00 Adam And I think we have a...

4:01 Drew You should be relieved, Cindy.

4:02 Cindy Margolis Yeah.

4:03 Drew Greatly.

4:04 Adam I know someone you know from a long time ago. I used to sleep over his house.

4:07 Cindy Margolis Oh, no.

4:08 Adam Don't worry. His name is Guy.

4:10 Cindy Margolis You know my husband?

4:11 Adam Yes. You're kidding. I used to sleep at his house.

4:14 Drew Well, wait, wait, wait.

4:15 Cindy Margolis OK, now you're scaring.

4:16 Drew Yeah, that sounds frightening.

4:17 Adam He's really good at this thing, right? No, I'm just kidding.

4:19 No, I used to...

4:20 Cindy Margolis You're gay.

4:20 He is actually.

4:22 Adam Take it easy. No, I used to sleep at his house. He played on the Yankees in Little League, and he was a good tennis player, and we played tennis against each other.

4:30 Cindy Margolis That is amazing. Wow, what a small world.

4:32 Adam Does his mom still wear those funky, really big, round hats?

4:35 Cindy Margolis She's never without a hat.

4:36 Adam Yeah, of course.

4:37 Drew That's her.

4:38 Cindy Margolis Wow, this is scary.

4:39 Adam I've seen them.

4:40 Cindy Margolis What else do you know?

4:42 Adam Believe me, we'll get into it. We'll get into it, Mrs. Margolis. So, are you ready to take calls and talk?

4:48 Cindy Margolis I'm ready.

4:49 Adam We'll talk about the Cindy Margolis show as we go along, which I actually saw the premiere late night on Saturday night, it was, right?

4:55 Cindy Margolis On this Saturday night, we have a pajama party, so it's right up your alley.

4:58 Adam Right up my alley. There was a pajama party at the Playboy Mansion I went to and I had on Curious George Pajamas.

5:03 Cindy Margolis Perfect.

5:04 Adam It was the way to go. I got so much attention for that.

5:06 Cindy Margolis And you didn't wear them for me today?

5:08 Adam They're under these.

5:08 Cindy Margolis Okay.

5:09 Adam I'll show you them later, then Guy will try to beat me up. All right. Elizabeth, 18 on Loveline.

5:14 Hi. Hey.

5:15 Okay. I have this problem with whenever, okay, all my friends are guys, and whenever they show interest towards me, it's always sexual interest and it's never like, hey, I want to be my girlfriend.

5:29 Adam Well, guys don't want, well, most guys at least, just don't want a girl as a friend. Guys think sexually. You think so, Cindy?

5:36 Cindy Margolis Definitely. You're 18?

5:38 Yeah.

5:39 Adam How many 17-year-olds you know are 18? Yeah. Hi, Cindy. You want to just go to Vons and go shopping today?

5:45 Cindy Margolis Wait a minute.

5:46 Drew I'm confused.

5:48 Adam She wants guys just as friends while these guys want a little more than a friendship, right?

5:52 Yeah. Or even like a boyfriend. Like I have this interest in this guy and we like made out and stuff. And I was like, you know, we almost had sex. And I was like, wait, you know, I'm not this type of person. We can at least go. He's like, well, you're not really girlfriend type. And then he stopped like calling me and stuff.

6:10 Drew See, that's the question. Why doesn't she ever get the boyfriend?

6:12 Yeah.

6:14 Adam You kind of led this guy on a little bit by getting close to the sex. And then you told him, hey, I don't want to do that anymore.

6:21 Yeah.

6:21 Adam If I was that guy, I probably would have not, you know.

6:24 Drew Wait a minute. That's something.

6:25 Well, she knew the whole time that I wasn't like that.

6:28 Adam But you were like that.

6:29 Well, to go all the way, I mean.

6:31 Adam All the way.

6:32 Drew Do you go out with guys?

6:34 Yeah. Well, I did once, but it was kind of rocky.

6:37 Drew All right. So why don't you, I mean, do you go on dates?

6:40 Yeah.

6:41 Drew Frequently?

6:43 Not too often, but yeah.

6:45 Drew And what happens in those encounters?

6:48 They're pretty mellow, you know, like we don't really.

6:53 Drew Do they go on to date two and three?

6:54 Yeah. Usually.

6:55 Drew And then how do things end?

6:58 I don't know. I just don't.

7:00 Adam They try kissing you. You say yes, and then you say no more.

7:03 Drew You're not interested or they're not interested?

7:05 Well, most of the guys that try to date me or whatever, aren't interesting to me.

7:10 Drew Aren't interesting to you?

7:11 Yeah. They're not interesting to me. But the ones that I find interesting and find me interesting sexually don't find me interesting girlfriend.

7:20 Drew Material.

7:20 Yeah.

7:21 Drew And who are these guys that you find interesting?

7:23 Well, just like pretty much my guy friends, pretty much.

7:26 Yeah.

7:28 Drew So why are shows ended up in Friendville? Once you, there's a reason that you're there in the first place. In other words, a guy that is really interested in you is not gonna stop at Friendville. He's gonna keep going right through. So the fact that they're already friends means that they're not attracted to you in that same way. And you really have to sort of start from scratch. And there's nothing wrong with you asking guys out that you're interested in and really letting your ability be known that you're interested in them. And don't wait until a friendship is established and then try to kind of move it along from there because guys don't usually do that. Women are much more evolved that way. They can do that kind of thing. Guys are sort of, they're either in slot A or slot B and they don't go back and forth.

8:05 Adam Elizabeth, I want to know how many guys do you like kiss and maybe go more than that and then say, oh, by the way, I'm not that kind of a girl. Do you do that with most of the guys you date?

8:13 Cindy Margolis Elizabeth is not a tease.

8:15 Adam No, no, I'm feeling tease here, Cindy.

8:17 Cindy Margolis No, she is not. I'm sticking up for you, Elizabeth. Actually, you're 18, you know, I had a boyfriend when I was 18 and it lasted for 10 years and I regretted it. I thought that, you know, you're young, enjoy it. I know I didn't have a boyfriend all through high school. So when I got a boyfriend, I was like, yeah, you know, I'm going to have a boyfriend. I was so excited. But I'm telling you, you're young. Enjoy it. Enjoy being single. Enjoy all these guys loving you. I'm telling you, it's okay to be a tease when you're 18. Go for it and have a good time.

8:42 Adam It's not okay if you're the guy, for Christ's sake.

8:44 Cindy Margolis It's okay, girl power.

8:45 Adam Sure. Kiss me, kiss me. Let me grab the boob. I'm not that kind of girl. Unacceptable. You're telling me, Ace Rockolla. Cindy Margolis is here. And let's talk to Jim, who is 42. What's up, man?

8:59 Hey, how are you doing? I was just calling because I have a real problem with a relationship because my girlfriend is only 22 and I'm 42. And we both love each other, but we have a lot of problems and a lot of communication.

9:16 Drew What are the problems due to?

9:19 Well, part of it's her family, part of it's her age. You know, I have teenage children. And she's eight and a half months pregnant. She's getting ready to deliver.

9:31 Drew With your child?

9:32 Yes. And we're just not getting along.

9:37 Drew How long have you been dating her?

9:39 Almost a year now.

9:41 Adam So where do you meet her? At the bar? At the work?

9:43 No, actually I met her originally at a friend of mine's house. And then we ended up on a fishing trip together.

9:54 Drew It's as bad as camping, by the way.

9:55 Adam And you lured her in with your big piece of bait, Jim.

9:58 Drew Oh, were you camping?

10:00 Yes, we were camping.

10:01 Drew Say camping, bad thing.

10:02 Well, the thing about it is, I was married at the time.

10:08 This is getting worse.

10:09 Adam Perfectly normal, perfectly healthy, Jim.

10:11 I had no intention. I mean, I had no intent at all.

10:14 Drew And then it just happened.

10:16 No, she had basically planned to have a trip, basically.

10:23 Adam What's your question, though, by the way?

10:25 My question is, is how do I get along with her better? How do I understand how she feels?

10:34 Adam Well, she's 22, you're 42. Let's see, you were married and then you hooked up with her. Now she's pregnant, you're on a camping trip. I don't know.

10:40 Drew You're asking a huge question. She's got a lot of stuff going on, no doubt. I mean, she ambushed you on a camping trip, a married man. And now that she's got you, she's creating all sorts of drama. There's a lot going on with her, a lot.

10:54 Adam Have you dated any older guys, Cindy, before, as you were growing up?

10:57 Cindy Margolis I have not. That's a big age difference. I mean, she's going to be a completely different person in a couple of years. I mean, 22 is so young. When she's 25, she won't even act, you know, completely different.

11:06 Adam You think girls are still growing mentally at 22?

11:08 Cindy Margolis Oh, yes.

11:08 Everybody is, definitely.

11:09 Adam Okay.

11:10 Cindy Margolis Yes.

11:11 Drew Women are still ahead of 22. Don't get me wrong. It's much more evolved.

11:14 That's the major problem is that we both love each other, but we don't know what to do.

11:19 Drew Well, get some counseling, Jim, because there's a ton going on here, and it's not some simple intellectual exercise of understanding where she's from. There's a lot going on, and she injects tons of chaos into her relationships, and there's reasons for that, and that needs to be sorted out.

11:33 Cindy Margolis And now they're bringing kids into it.

11:34 Drew Oh, on behalf of the kids, get some help, right?

11:37 Adam And on behalf of the public, stop having more kids. All right, Jim? I'm serious. Poor Jim.

11:43 Drew Take care of those teenage kids. Make sure they don't have kids, too. He's got teenagers.

11:47 Adam The teenager is 17, the mom is 22. You want to go to the bar tonight, kids?

11:50 Drew We'll find another guy.

11:51 Cindy Margolis Jerry Springer.

11:52 Adam Almost. Very close.

11:53 Drew I found out today that Springer and shows like that have a staff dentist. Really? Because people that come on the show, their teeth are so messed up, they had to actually do something before they put them on the air.

12:02 Adam They need a staff dietician.

12:04 Cindy Margolis You know, the executive producer of my show is the Jerry Springer, executive producer. Ask him about the staff dentist.

12:10 Adam Yeah, ask him about that. I don't think Scribble needs a dentist, does he? No. You're DJ from the show? No, of course not. He's good on the Ones and the Twos, by the way.

12:16 Cindy Margolis Yeah, he is. He's cool.

12:18 Adam Really good.

12:18 Cindy Margolis Yeah, the girls love him.

12:19 Adam Really?

12:20 Cindy Margolis Yeah.

12:20 Adam How about you? You like him as a co-worker?

12:22 Cindy Margolis Uh-huh. He's great.

12:23 Adam Cool.

12:23 Cindy Margolis Yeah, he has him lining up, though, backstage. Trust me.

12:26 Adam Scribble. All right, Whitney, 14 on Loveline. What's up?

12:30 Hi, I was wondering if I should take Accutane if I've had previous problems with depression.

12:35 Adam What is Accutane?

12:36 Drew It's a... I've actually been on Accutane twice. I've been on it too. Me too. And it just got off it and it made me depressed as hell, as a matter of fact. And fatigued and back pain and short of breath, all kinds of funny symptoms. But I kind of persevered.

12:47 Cindy Margolis I didn't realize all that was related to Accutane.

12:49 Drew It can be. Accutane has lots of funny potential symptoms.

12:52 Adam What is it?

12:52 Drew What is it? It's a vitamin A analog that clears acne. It's an incredible medicine, incredible, and extremely effective. And it's something you want to take and take carefully. And it can certainly precipitate depression. And usually, it's very quickly reversible if you're off the medicine. So it's not a huge risk. Just make sure you watch very carefully. Don't let somebody hand you a month's supply and say go about your business. Make sure you watch every couple weeks for a while. And, you know, 14-year-olds, they give them big doses too, bigger than adults.

13:19 Cindy Margolis Yeah, and you have to check with your doctor and have your blood.

13:21 Drew And the big issue with it is it causes severe birth defects. So women of childbearing age, they're very careful with it.

13:26 Cindy Margolis That little pregnant woman with the X on every pill. That's scary.

13:30 Adam So does it cure it temporarily, the acne?

13:33 Drew Well, there's sort of total doses you're supposed to take as an adult. They can clear it up. The same with young people. But usually the younger people use six months of a certain dose and sometimes it's curative, sometimes it isn't. Sometimes they have to do it again.

13:45 Cindy Margolis Yeah.

13:47 Drew It sure works when you're taking it.

13:48 Adam Really?

13:48 Cindy Margolis Right.

13:48 Drew All right.

13:49 Adam Accutane if you have pimples, by the way, you guys. All right. 1-800-LOVE-191. Cindy Margolis is here and Rico is on Loveline. What's up?

13:58 Hi. I just found pornographic pictures of my stepfather with his ex-wife. And I don't know if I should tell my mother because she just got over severe depression and she's real happy with him. So what should I do?

14:12 Drew Where's your dad?

14:14 My father, he lives like four blocks away.

14:19 Drew Could you talk to him about it? No. Because why?

14:24 He has a big mouth.

14:27 Drew Yeah, but here's the deal. This is upsetting to you. And it's not your responsibility to take care of your parents. You're thinking about them long before you're thinking about your own feelings. You're thinking about your mom being okay with this guy now and you wouldn't want to upset her. But here they've done things that are sort of unhealthy for you, leaving these pictures around.

14:46 Adam I want to know where these pictures were, Rico. Yeah. Where'd you find them? Were you snooping around or what? Seriously.

14:51 Yeah.

14:52 I found the combination of on my stepdad's safe. I sort of opened it.

14:56 Drew Yeah. Having a safe in a teenage household is just a giant challenge. It's just a big bullseye.

15:02 Adam What else was in there besides naked pictures of him and his old wife?

15:06 Money.

15:07 Adam Money. Okay. What else?

15:08 Diamonds and-

15:10 Drew The usual.

15:10 All the coins and crap like that.

15:12 Adam Money, diamonds, and naked pictures.

15:14 Drew Eye patch.

15:14 Cindy Margolis That's in my safe.

15:18 Adam So what does Rico need to do about this?

15:20 Cindy Margolis Does she just keep it to herself or what do you think?

15:22 Drew I think you need to talk to an adult that is close to the scene so if these adults need to be spoken to, they can be spoken to by another adult and it's not Rico's responsibility.

15:33 Adam What were you looking for in the safe, Rico?

15:35 I don't know. Just being nosy.

15:36 Adam You were just being nosy?

15:37 Drew Part of the problem is you get what you ask for when you do that too.

15:40 Adam I don't know if I blame the stepdad that much. They were in the safe.

15:43 Drew Yeah, I understand. You're right. I thought they were just kind of lying around. It's not that big a deal in terms of what the parents have done but on the other hand, it's not his responsibility to maintain their happiness.

15:52 Adam I agree. I agree. So quit snooping around and find an adult and tell them Rico or her, okay?

15:57 Okay.

15:57 Adam Did those pictures excite you?

15:59 No.

16:00 Adam Okay, good. Sounds a little wishy-washy. All right. Let's talk to David here on Loveline who is 20. What's up, David?

16:08 Hi. I think my girlfriend, she's dusted her bra and it seemed pretty big but she never let me touch him in any way. Whenever we have sex, she keeps her shirt on.

16:22 Drew You're 20? Yeah. She's 12?

16:24 Caller Excuse me?

16:25 Drew Nothing.

16:26 Adam How old is she?

16:26 Caller She's 18.

16:28 Adam Hold on. She's your girlfriend. How long have you been dating?

16:31 Caller Almost five months.

16:32 Adam And you have never taken her shirt off yourself?

16:35 Caller No. It's like every time I try to even go towards that way. She kind of slightly makes a gesture to move my hand away or sometimes I'll catch her adjusting it and making sure it looks right, making sure it looks straight.

16:49 Drew Isn't that weird that people can be that intimate?

16:51 Cindy Margolis But you have had sex.

16:52 Caller Yeah.

16:53 Cindy Margolis So you've been on top of her, right?

16:55 Caller Yeah. But she always wears tight, really tight shirts.

17:00 Adam She wears a wetsuit when you have sex?

17:01 Caller No. She just wears tight shirts and you can tell she wears a sports bra on her knees. And it's really extra padded.

17:08 Drew And you don't speak to her about what's causing all this?

17:10 Caller I'm afraid to. I don't want to embarrass her.

17:13 Drew Well, David.

17:14 Cindy Margolis And would it bother you if she was?

17:16 Caller No, not at all. That's the thing. I mean, no matter what, I love her no matter what.

17:20 Drew If you say it like that, I'm sure you'll be able to sort of open a discussion about this, OK? Really. It's something bothersome to you. It's not as though she's missing this. Something obviously she's attending to very carefully.

17:33 Caller I just don't see how long she thinks it's going to hold off.

17:37 Adam It's going to go on forever. She's never going to take it off forever.

17:40 Drew I don't see how it's going on this long.

17:41 Adam Hell, how about forever?

17:43 Drew How'd you manage to go this far?

17:46 Caller She seems to say the one time I did actually try, she brings up memories, she gets flashbacks, she says.

17:53 Drew Oh, you got a problem there.

17:54 Adam Yeah, that's a different story. Maybe something happened to her as a kid.

17:57 Drew That's sexual abuse flashbacks.

17:58 Caller No, I know what happened. She told me what happened. We went to a club on Halloween and she got raped in the club by a couple guys.

18:08 Drew That wasn't the first time she was raped, I guarantee it.

18:10 Caller I know it wasn't. But the point is, if she doesn't leave her full on sex, I don't see what the whole touching her breast would mean.

18:18 Drew Well, you're going to have to work very, you've got a work cut out for you. She's had majorly abuse, probably since a very young age. She's going to have all sorts of mixed feelings about being sexually active. It's sort of extraordinary that she can have a close relationship and is able to even have sex with you at all. So you've got to take this very gently, but I think you shouldn't worry about embarrassing her. Just to tell you very honestly how you feel and talk about it.

18:45 Adam All right, David. All right, thanks. OK.

18:47 Cindy Margolis Hi, David.

18:48 Adam Bye. At first, I was just thinking this girl was a little nutty, but-

18:51 Cindy Margolis Yeah, and then it got deeper.

18:52 Adam Deeper. It always gets deeper.

18:53 Cindy Margolis You drew it out, Drew. You got it.

18:56 Drew Always something there.

18:57 Adam Drew draws out everything around here, especially when he plays footsies with me underneath. All right.

19:02 Cindy Margolis That was me.

19:03 Adam Was it?

19:03 Drew By the way, that's where my feet go, Stryker.

19:06 Adam I'm looking under. It was. Are those big boots?

19:08 Cindy Margolis It's me, of course.

19:10 Adam Those are nice. I just touched your leg. Sorry, guy.

19:12 Drew Those are mine.

19:13 Adam Okay. Those are yours.

19:14 Drew That's where my feet go.

19:15 Adam Got it. Mine are going here. All right. Cindy Margolis is here in John 23 on Loveline. What's up?

19:20 Hey, guys. How are you doing today? Good. Hey, John. Dr. Drew, hello. Stryker doing a good job while Adam's out. Thanks. Cindy, beautiful girl. Thank you. Well-downloaded woman on the internet. Okay. Here's my problem. I have a bacterial infection in my throat. I'm sicker than I've ever been in my life. I'm totally hit. I'm taking days off of work. Wow. Once the doctor got like a super strong antibiotic. The thing is, I was intimate with my girlfriend for the first time this weekend, oral sex, and we had sex. Of course, I used a condom for the sex. Reading the medicine, the little thing you get from the pharmacy that's used for this, this, and this, it says something about an STD. I can't figure out how I got this.

19:56 Drew You're taking Zithromax?

19:58 Let me go pull it for you.

19:59 Drew Azithromycin?

20:01 Adam He's going to get it.

20:02 It's not handy. Zithromax.

20:05 Drew Yeah, so you got Zithromax.

20:06 Yeah.

20:06 Drew Azithromax is for sore throats, right? Period. It also, in a one gram dose, is for chlamydia. But they didn't give you one gram. They gave you 500 milligrams followed by four 250 milligram doses, which means they're not treating you for chlamydia. They're treating you for a sore throat.

20:21 Okay, what could cause this?

20:24 Drew Strap. It's not an STD. They're not treating you for an STD.

20:27 Okay, so I have nothing to worry about then?

20:29 Drew Well, Zithromax is the right medicine for chlamydia, but that's not what they're treating you for. Okay.

20:34 Adam Hey, John, if it was chlamydia, it would have been 50 milligrams.

20:38 Drew Really? A gram, a gram. A gram. A thousand milligrams. A thousand milligrams. And no, no, no, no, no. It's just some sort of infection. Zithromax is fine. Zithromax is fine. There's other chlamydia other than STD chlamydia. There's chlamydia, Tuor, and there's mycoplasm, and all sorts of non-bacterial, in between a bacteria and a virus that can cause sore throats. Zithromax is pretty good for it.

21:00 All right, thank you very much.

21:00 Drew You'll be fine. Don't worry.

21:01 Adam All right, John.

21:02 Bye-bye.

21:03 Adam Right now, John is going to break dance and do backflips that he doesn't have in STD.

21:06 Drew Definitely. This is another reason why the pharmacy should not be including information with the medication they've been sending.

21:12 Adam Pharmacists are so odd to me because I'll go and get a prescription that give me nine pages of material.

21:17 Cindy Margolis I like to read that, though. You're saying that just makes your imagination go.

21:23 Drew I was talking to SR-71 last night here, and I said, when you're trained in medicine, you learn how to evaluate and create great lists of positive findings and putting the history together, and then you create giant list of what the possible explanations are, diagnostically, and a million reasons why it's the one diagnosis you finally arrive at. Fast forward 15 years into your training, and you walk in the room, and you smell it. You know what it is immediately. I mean, literally, it comes from experience. So to take somebody that has no experience and start to give them those lists, it just scares the crap out of them.

21:53 Cindy Margolis When it says possible side effects, they all go through your mind. Oh, I had that. I had that.

21:57 Drew You have to be in the context of a ton of experience, or it's just meaningless information.

22:01 Adam Well, they should redo that at the local drugstores. All right, we're going to speak to Brian in a second. We got to take a quick break. All I know, Brian wants to talk about anal beads.

22:10 Cindy Margolis Anal beads.

22:10 Adam You got that right, Cindy Margolis.

22:12 Cindy Margolis Stay around.

22:14 Adam What, Dr. Drew?

22:14 Drew The Striker's all about this.

22:16 Adam You bastard. Coming back more on Loveline.

22:18 Drew Hold on.

22:21 Stryker Loveline, we'll be right back. Call on the 1-800-LOVE-191.

22:59 Adam All right, we're back. It's Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. Stryker here, in for Adam Corolla along with Dr. Drew and Cindy Margolis. Hello there. All right. So you got this new show, The Cindy Margolis Show. And I think it's on Channel 2 in LA.

23:13 Cindy Margolis It is. CBS follows Howard Stern, Saturday Nights. And it is all about a good time.

23:18 Adam What's the whole premise? It's like you got DJ Scribble playing music, you got girls in tops, it's on the beach. It's just like a big party show or what?

23:25 Cindy Margolis Girls in less than tops. It's illegal to be topless in Miami on the beach. So if you're topless at noon, only imagine what you're going to do at midnight.

23:34 Drew It's illegal?

23:35 Cindy Margolis So it's legal to be topless. Oh, legal? Legal.

23:37 Adam Oh, good.

23:38 Cindy Margolis I know. I probably brought a whole bunch more people to Miami.

23:41 Adam Yeah, definitely. Being a veneno on Miami. Yeah.

23:43 Cindy Margolis You can just walk outside of your hotel and there's gorgeous girls laying out topless everywhere.

23:48 Adam You ever walk around topless out there?

23:49 Cindy Margolis I did not.

23:50 Adam Are you planning on it?

23:51 Cindy Margolis I think so.

23:52 Adam Imagine the crowd outside the radio station here that will be out there.

23:56 Drew In Europe, I would think one would feel uncomfortable wearing a top almost because it's just not done.

24:00 Adam Where?

24:01 Drew Europe. In France.

24:02 Adam Oh, in France. But you're in Miami.

24:05 Cindy Margolis We're in my South Beach. It is just a late night party. We have sexy games. We have our Webkini Contest. We have celebrities, music, dancing. It's a late night beach party. The first late night show to be shot on the beach at night. It's just all about getting everybody naked. That is the goal of the show. Just like this show here. That's the goal.

24:24 Adam The goal here is to get naked. What time is it? 10.26?

24:26 Cindy Margolis By midnight we'll all be naked and my show as well.

24:30 Adam Can I have a glass of water please in here? Anything we'll do. Gatorade will be fun. But all around the country, it's not just on CBS, it's syndicated. So they have to find out what channel is on.

24:39 Cindy Margolis You can go to my website.

24:40 Adam Which is cindymargolis.com.

24:42 Cindy Margolis Exactly. And find out all the info.

24:44 Adam I got questions for you now. Before we start taking a call.

24:47 Cindy Margolis Before we talk about the anal beads.

24:49 Adam Before we get into the anal beads and use them out here. What were you doing before you got famous? How did you come about? I have no idea.

24:58 Cindy Margolis I have no clue. I was modeling. And then I was on The Price is Right, pointing at refrigerators.

25:04 Adam You were one of them.

25:05 Cindy Margolis For a little bit. I was a Barker Beauty.

25:07 Adam Did Bob ever show you that long ass mic that he carries around?

25:11 Cindy Margolis He did not. I was there during that little awkward time when some lawsuits were going on. So I couldn't get anywhere near Bob. You know, I'm an affectionate person here. I want to give you a hug. And he's like, don't touch me.

25:22 Adam So you were doing that. And then you were ahead of the game in terms of getting websites.

25:25 Cindy Margolis Yeah, in 95, no one had one. No one knew what a downloader the Internet was, including myself.

25:30 Adam And no one could steal your name either.

25:31 Cindy Margolis No one could steal my name. This is way before. And the TV show Extra came down. They were the first entertainment entity to have a website. And they said, oh, can we put your picture up? And I said, sure. Had no clue what I was doing. And the next day, America Online called and said, oh, you know, you got this many downloads. Again, no clue. But when America Online calls, you find out real quick what they're talking about. So I started working with them doing chats. And here I am four years later with Yahoo, American Online, Guinness, and, you know, most downloads.

25:57 Adam So it started with The Price is Right, then getting the website, Extra, Extra, put it on TV and bam, there you go.

26:02 Cindy Margolis And then you started doing stuff for E! Entertainment, too.

26:04 Adam You are parlaying this thing like no other. Good job. That's exactly the way to do it.

26:09 Cindy Margolis I'm working it. I'm working it.

26:10 Adam No, but you're doing it well. And then that TV show on E! I've seen a bunch of times.

26:14 Cindy Margolis I know. In your dreams. I have where I make people's dreams come true. They're entertainment dreams. So if you're an aspiring singer, model, or band. Actually, my band got on K-Rock Capital, too.

26:25 Adam Now what do you think I am? Chopped Liver? I watch that show.

26:28 Cindy Margolis Give it up.

26:28 Adam Yeah. You ever want to bring a band by K-Rock? And you brought that girl to go on that TV show with the planes and the ends.

26:35 Cindy Margolis Exactly. And my comedian got a headline at Laugh Factory.

26:39 Adam Pretty cool. I saw it. That was very cool.

26:41 Cindy Margolis And Drew's yawning over here. We don't even need him. You don't need me.

26:44 Adam Drew, Cindy and I are about to make out. Excuse me.

26:47 Cindy Margolis Bye.

26:48 Adam Guy. Sorry. Brian.

26:50 Yeah.

26:50 Adam You're 15 and anal beads are in your life. What's the question?

26:54 Caller Yeah.

26:54 I'd like to know what they are and what they're used for.

26:57 Adam Cindy?

26:58 Drew Stryker?

26:59 Cindy Margolis I just left.

27:01 Will you tell me?

27:03 Adam I think.

27:03 Cindy Margolis I don't know either. I'm right with him.

27:05 Adam Well, the only I think, therefore, you have someone slightly push them in there. It's a long string of them and then they slowly remove them from the buttocks. That is supposed to create pleasure.

27:17 Drew Yeah. Right, Dr. Drew? Remove them however the people like them removed.

27:22 Adam Why are you interested in these things, Brian?

27:25 I heard from one of my friends.

27:26 Caller He was going to buy them and I wanted to know what they were.

27:29 Drew That's what they are. Things you put up your keyster.

27:31 Adam Put up your butt and you pull them out with your mouth, your feet, your hands, and slowly or fast and it creates pleasure for the other person, apparently.

27:38 Cindy Margolis Does it matter what kind of beads? Could it be any type of beads or is it a certain type?

27:42 Adam Well, as long as they're round and fit up there. Nothing too big.

27:46 Cindy Margolis You seem to know a lot about this.

27:47 Adam Take it easy, Cindy. All right, Brian? Thanks a lot, man.

27:51 Cindy Margolis Thanks.

27:51 Adam Bye-bye. 15, asking at anal beads. God, I didn't learn this until about two weeks ago. Philip, 18, on Loveline with Cindy Margolis. What's up?

27:59 Hey, how's it going, guys?

28:00 Good.

28:01 I really appreciate you taking my call. I actually lied to get on. I hope you don't mind. But anyways, on to the question. About a year and a half ago, I dyed my hair. And after that, my hair started falling out.

28:18 Adam Pubic hair or hair on your head?

28:20 Well, I dyed the hair on my scalp. And that started falling out. But then about six months later, my pubic hair started falling out as well.

28:26 Drew Oh, interesting. Without that, I haven't been dyed.

28:29 Right. And then the story unfolds more. I've like lost a lot of my sex drive since then. And I was wondering if this was like a hormonal problem. I've been to the doctor and a doctor told me I was just stressed. And then I've been to a dermatologist and he just, he prescribed me Propecia, but I mean I just don't think it's just like, I mean I think he said it was hereditary or, but it seems like maybe I have some kind of hormonal imbalance or...

29:04 Drew Well, I'll tell you, loss of hair in the pubic area in a young person is a sort of weak sign, but a sign of adrenal insufficiency. It's your adrenal glands aren't working quite right. Okay, so that's a possible explanation, and that would potentially cause hair loss in the head, too. Then you worry about medication, you worry about other thyroid conditions, you worry about some kind of chemical reaction, whatever you're using for the dye.

29:30 Adam What kind of, what color hair did you...

29:32 It was black.

29:33 Adam You made it black?

29:34 Right.

29:35 Adam What product did you use?

29:37 One of the, like L'Oreal, I think.

29:40 Adam Oh, you used one of the, those, okay.

29:42 Right, that you get at the supermarket or beauty salon.

29:44 Adam You didn't go to, like, Hot Topic and get one of those?

29:46 No. No, it was just kind of a professional site or... Right.

29:50 Drew Do you have any other symptoms at all?

29:53 Um, like, forgetfulness, but that was just fairly recent. I had my thyroid levels checked at the doctor, but they said it was fine.

30:04 Drew Nothing wrong with your sodium? They didn't mention anything wrong with the sodium level?

30:09 No, he said everything was fine.

30:10 Drew Your blood pressure's been okay?

30:11 Caller Yeah.

30:13 Adam How old are you really? It says you're 18.

30:14 Caller Yeah, no, I'm 18.

30:15 Adam You don't sound 18.

30:17 Caller How old do I sound?

30:18 Adam 15.

30:19 Caller No, no, no, I'm 18.

30:21 Drew But I would keep pursuing this and ask to see an endocrinologist, okay?

30:25 Caller Yeah, that's what I was going to do next.

30:28 Drew All right, all right, get it checked out. But it may be something hereditary, it may be related to stress. Those are certainly reasonable explanations for this, but I agree you should have it thoroughly worked out before you sort of leave it at those diagnoses, all right?

30:39 Caller All right, okay, thanks a lot, goodbye.

30:41 Adam Quit telling lies. Dyeing your hair and the pubic hair falls out?

30:45 Cindy Margolis This is terrific.

30:46 Drew It may just be incidental, though. It may have some time to time.

30:48 Cindy Margolis Yeah, I don't think it had anything to do with the dye. Please, please, I hope not. All us real blondes out there aren't going to like that.

30:55 Adam Just got a little blonde action going today. Trisha.

30:58 Hello.

30:58 Adam Hello, you're 22, what's up?

31:00 Caller Okay, here's my question. I just found out that I'm pregnant from my ex-boyfriend.

31:06 Drew Your first child?

31:08 Caller Yes, and of course, he just boned out and that was it. And my question to you was, you see, I was just going to let him have nothing to do with the child and just raise him on my own. I wasn't going to put him down as the father or for child support, but some other people are telling me that I should.

31:27 Drew Put him down?

31:28 Caller Yeah.

31:28 Cindy Margolis On the birth certificate?

31:30 Caller Yeah, no, to get him for child support.

31:32 Drew All right, he has a responsibility to help support the child.

31:36 Caller And you know, and I understand that, but like he's going around saying, I guess, that he thinks I'm doing this to keep him around and I'm not. And you know, my moral to that was just, you know, I wasn't going to put him down as father. I wasn't going to get him for child support.

31:50 Drew It's fine not to put him down to your child. That's not going to make the child's life any easier by sort of criticizing his dad all the time. That's going to be bad for the child. I support that. But to let this guy slip out from under his responsibilities entirely, why?

32:06 Caller I know. And he just like totally, you know, stopped calling and just hasn't been around.

32:11 Drew That's fine. Let the authorities take care of collecting from him.

32:14 Adam How many times had you slept with him, do you think? Or how many times did you sleep with him?

32:17 Caller We were together for about two years.

32:19 Adam Oh, so he was your full-on boyfriend.

32:21 Caller Yeah.

32:22 Adam And then he knocked you up and then he just took off when you told him.

32:25 Caller Yeah.

32:26 Adam Oh, my god. You know how to pick him. How far along are you?

32:32 Caller I'm 11 weeks.

32:33 Adam 11 weeks. What about putting the baby up for adoption?

32:37 Drew How about that?

32:38 Caller I don't know if I could do that after carrying a baby in my stomach for nine months. I don't know if I could have a baby.

32:45 Drew Wouldn't you want to make decisions that are the best for the child?

32:48 Caller Yes, I would. I really think that I could take care of him.

32:53 Drew Yeah, but what would be best for the child? Not what could you get by and almost do. But what would be the best decision for that child?

33:00 Caller Yeah, I'm sure that, you know, adoption would be a good thing. I just don't know if I have it in my heart to do that.

33:05 Adam What do you do? Do you work?

33:07 Caller Yes, I'm an office manager at a property management company.

33:11 Cindy Margolis How old is the father?

33:13 Caller He's 27.

33:15 Adam What does he do?

33:16 Caller Welder? No, he just works at a little, like, hardware business.

33:23 Adam All right, Trisha, the only thing I would say, maybe you're only 22. I know there's kids a lot younger than you having kids, but maybe put it up for adoption and, you know, try to straighten out your life a little bit.

33:32 Drew Probably be the best interest of the child to do that.

33:34 Adam Yeah, for sure. But.

33:36 Caller Okay, thank you.

33:37 Adam All right, Trisha.

33:38 Caller Okay.

33:39 Adam Bye. All right, 1-800-LOVE-191. Who am I to be giving advice?

33:43 Cindy Margolis Wow, yeah, that was a big decision. Telling her to put him up for adoption.

33:46 Adam But did you hear that? The baby's going to have no father. All right, he works in a hardware store. She's an office manager. I don't know if she went to college or anything, but the baby's at a disadvantage the second it's born.

33:58 Drew And it's not like we believe she's going to march out and go, oh, good, thank goodness that got resolved tonight. Set up the adoption paper tomorrow morning. But the kids do not think about that enough as an option. It really is the healthy one for the kid most often.

34:10 Adam So Elise?

34:12 Yeah.

34:13 Adam Hi, you're 22 on Loveline.

34:14 Caller Yes, I'm having a bit of an ordeal. I've been in a relationship with a guy for over seven years, and we have a two-year-old son, and it's never been a healthy relationship from the get-go, and I've just stuck it out, whatever. And I've recently decided to end the relationship.

34:33 Why?

34:35 Caller Well, it kind of has to do with some of the stuff that you guys were saying to the last girl, but I had to think of my son's best interests, and I don't think that raising him in a household like this would be the best thing for him.

34:48 Drew Is he an addict, or is he raging all the time?

34:51 Caller No, not really. It's kind of more of, like, I call it that he has, like, trophy kid syndrome, like how guys have trophy wives who kind of have, like, a trophy kid. Like, he doesn't really spend quality time with him. He only wants to kind of show him off, type stuff, and then there is some, like, drug and alcohol stuff that I'm not kosher with, even being in my household with my son, and there's just a lot of other issues. He's cheated on me numerous times. He's really disrespectful to me. My son sees it. I don't want him to be raised in that kind of environment. But now that I've made this decision for the two of us to get out, I'm having a lot of anxiety about it. I thought that I would be feeling pretty excited and, like, ready to get on with my own life, but I feel like I'm getting more and more depressed.

35:44 Adam For the child's sake, it's making you upset, I guess?

35:48 Caller Well, I think that that has a lot to do with it, because I had my son when I was pretty young, and I knew that it was like I didn't want to be just a statistic, whatever, teen parent, and I wanted to do, like, the right thing by staying with the dad, and now I'm going against what I had worked so hard to do, and I think that that might be some of it, but I don't know. I'm totally throwing myself for a loop.

36:12 Drew Is it just making a big change, being alone, that sort of thing makes you anxious?

36:16 Caller I've never been alone. I started dating this guy when I was 17, moving in with him when I was 14. I started dating when I was 14.

36:22 Adam How old is he?

36:24 Caller He's 25. He was 18 when we started dating.

36:26 Drew That's enough to provoke a lot of anxiety itself. What were you running away from at home?

36:31 Caller Well, I think that I was trying to substitute, like, a not really there for me dad with, like, another male, because he and my dad are pretty similar. So I think that I was probably trying to fill that void that my dad had left with him. And it's just, like, a vicious cycle, because obviously my dad wasn't doing the right thing. So now he's not doing the right thing.

36:55 Drew Have you had some treatment, some therapy or something?

36:57 Caller Has he?

36:58 Drew You.

36:59 Caller Have I? No.

37:00 Drew OK.

37:01 Cindy Margolis Because she sounds like she has her head together. She sounds like she's thinking it through, yeah. You're right. If you feel you have to leave him, it really sounds like you know what you're doing. I was raised by a single mom. So I think if you feel strong enough, and it would be good for the child to get away from him, it sounds like you're already halfway out the door, and that you...

37:17 Caller I'm in school right now, and I'm done with school in October, and I'm leaving as soon as I'm done with school. So I have the date set to leave. It's just that as that date keeps getting closer and closer, I feel like I'm freaking out more and more.

37:32 Drew It's going to be uncomfortable. If it were an easy decision or easy path to go down, you would have done it a long time ago. It's been a path of least resistance for you to stay in this abusive situation. So obviously, there's a lot of heavy feelings attached to leaving this situation.

37:48 Cindy Margolis It's going to get harder before it gets easier.

37:49 Drew Yeah, but you just got to do it.

37:50 Cindy Margolis There's a silver lining.

37:51 Drew You got to do it.

37:52 Caller But is it really going to be... I guess what my issue is with it now is, is it more beneficial for a son to be raised by a single mother in a positive relationship or in a positive environment, or is having that father figure...

38:09 Drew He needs the father. You can't take his father away from him. But you can structure the relationship with him in such a way that he's not exposed to so much negativity. And which is better for a given child? No one can answer that.

38:20 Caller Okay.

38:21 Drew Okay?

38:22 Caller Okay.

38:22 Well, thank you.

38:23 Adam Anytime you're with someone for a long period of time and you want to get out, whether it's a child or not, you're stressed about it, you know? And if there's a child involved, it's going to make it even worse. So I just think... Yeah, I just think your feelings are normal at least. All right, we got to take a break. Cindy Margolis is here, Stryker for Corolla along with Dr. Drew. We're going to speak to Tori in a second, who was exposed to, wow, oh my god, all right, you'll find out what it is in a minute on Loveline.

38:48 Stryker Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191.

39:25 Adam Hello, Loveline, we're back. Stryker here for Adam Corolla. Jesus, that's loud.

39:31 The Superman song.

39:33 Adam Dr. Drew, I have a question for you.

39:35 Drew Yes?

39:35 Adam Am I gonna be on the MTV Loveline also?

39:38 Drew I don't know. Just like Cindy, we're just told to sit down and answer the question.

39:43 Adam I'm kidding. They would never say, no, I'm just messing around.

39:46 Cindy Margolis We've been drilling Drew about Loveline's TV show.

39:49 Adam I have family, and I'll say, yeah, I'm doing this Loveline show, filling in for this guy, Adam Corolla. Why isn't it going to be on TV? Like 60-year-old people that have seen the show on Loveline.

39:58 Drew I know. It's weird.

39:59 Adam Yeah, very weird.

40:00 Drew The reach of TV.

40:01 Cindy Margolis Yeah, it's a great show.

40:02 Adam Yeah, definitely. Cindy Margolis is here, and you have the Cindy Margolis show, which if you guys live in LA, I know it's on Channel 2 on Saturday nights after the Howard Stern Show. It's on pretty late, and I saw it last week.

40:13 Cindy Margolis It's on Saturday nights everywhere.

40:14 Adam Oh, everywhere Saturday nights. Okay. Very good. How many shows have you already filmed, or you just do it every week?

40:22 Cindy Margolis Yeah, we already have a couple in the Cairns. So I'm going to go back to South Beach and maybe Vegas and just travel and have a good time. You know Saturday night is party night, date night.

40:31 Adam Yes, it is.

40:31 Cindy Margolis So, you know, it's all about having fun.

40:33 Adam On my next date, I'm going for dinner or movie and watching the Cindy Margolis show. And speaking of cans, hopefully grabbing them. Ooh. Yes, yes. And you, Cindy, maybe?

40:40 Cindy Margolis We do have our Webkini Contest. We have five gorgeous girls every week strutting their stuff, so I know you'll be there.

40:46 Adam I love reading the bio. It says, we have gorgeous people on here, both men and women.

40:50 Cindy Margolis Well, you know, I don't know if you noticed this, but I am a girl. Did you notice that? Yeah, of course. So there is stuff for girls to look at on the show, too. I made sure of that, yeah.

40:57 Adam If you ever need someone with a really ripped stomach and like blonde spiky hair, I know this, no, it's not me, because I have the... Yeah, exactly, Drew. The handsome man over here, Dr. Drew. Mr. Big Brother. All right, Tori. Hi. Hi, you're 15, I'm Loveline.

41:12 Caller First off, I want to see Stryker. You're doing a very good job.

41:14 Adam Thanks.

41:15 Caller Because you're not an asshole and Adam is.

41:17 Drew This is all fact.

41:20 Cindy Margolis No comment.

41:20 Drew Just stating the obvious.

41:22 Caller And Dr. Drew, you're very helpful.

41:28 Drew Thank you, Tori. What's going on?

41:31 Caller I'm nervous. Okay, well, basically, my question was, being, I was, I'm sorry, I was like a sexual content. I was kind of exposed to that at an early age. And I was just wondering, like, is that why I'm, like, completely turned off to this stuff thought of, like, sex and sexual acts?

41:47 Drew What were you exposed to?

41:49 Caller Oh, I walked in on my parents, like, a couple more times than I should have.

41:53 Drew Really? Several? More than once.

41:54 Caller Yes, and my mom is just very open about our sexuality. If I don't want to hear about it.

41:59 Drew Yeah, there is, I've been talking the last few days about theories of trajectory, as far as it goes to energy about one's sexuality. And there are things that can happen in childhood that can set you down various trajectory paths. And what you had experienced is something that can set you certainly in one direction or the other. It can set you in a direction towards hypersexuality or pretty much shut down to sexuality.

42:21 Caller Well, I'd rather shut down than like over acting.

42:24 Drew Well, neither is healthy, but indeed, of the two, this is a safer and less dangerous route to go down.

42:31 Cindy Margolis But at 15, what are you supposed to expect sexually?

42:34 Caller I don't know what this thing is, even just kissing. I'm just like, I recently, I don't know, a couple months ago, I had my first kiss and I was just completely like, I wish it would have been somebody that I would have really liked, but it wasn't. And I just thought, okay, I'm gonna get it over with because all my other friends were like, oh, Ryan, you haven't even had your first kiss yet, da, da, da, da, da. And so, I'm just like, well, okay. What's the big deal?

42:57 Caller Because it's awful.

42:59 Drew Well, Ryan is aversive to this. It's not just that she has no sexual feelings, she's actually aversive.

43:04 Cindy Margolis Well, couldn't she be a lay bloomer?

43:07 Caller I don't think I am, because I know I'm ready for that kind of stuff. It's just like, I haven't found the right person to like, experience it with.

43:14 Drew She's aware that there's a connection here.

43:16 Adam Right.

43:16 Drew It's not just closed her off, grossed her out, and that's that.

43:19 Adam So, do you think you need to-

43:19 Drew You might get over it, you might get over it.

43:20 Adam Yeah, do you think you need to speak to someone, just get some things off your chest, maybe that'll, you know, make you feel more comfortable next time you want to make out with a guy?

43:27 Caller I had a therapist, but it was just, I didn't like, I don't like crying in front of people, so I had this thing about opening up to her that I didn't want to do, so I ended up talking about irrelevant stuff that I, like, instead of stuff I really should have talked about.

43:38 Drew How long were you with the therapist?

43:40 Caller Like, a couple months, and then I just didn't want to go anywhere, because I, I, like...

43:45 Drew They always say that when you don't want to go is when you gotta go, because that's when the stuff's starting to slow.

43:49 Caller I just didn't feel comfortable talking to her about the certain issues that I should have been.

43:53 Drew Yeah, but maybe it's that person, but understand that it's not supposed to be a fun or comfortable process.

43:58 Caller Yeah, and Cindy Margolis, I just wonder, how do you get on your show?

44:02 Caller Oh, which one?

44:03 Cindy Margolis Yes, please.

44:04 Caller Yeah, I wanna like, I'm like, I'm an inspiring singer, and I just wanna like...

44:08 Drew Inspiring.

44:10 Cindy Margolis There you go.

44:10 Adam I'm a perspiring singer.

44:12 Cindy Margolis What kind of singer?

44:14 Caller Okay, like, I don't know, like a Fiona Apple kind of thing.

44:16 Adam Wow, nice.

44:17 Caller That's cool.

44:18 Adam You're not as skinny as her in like, do crazy convulsions like her.

44:20 Caller No, I'm not, but I can have my bellybutton pierced.

44:22 Drew Ooh, Ryan, I mean Tori.

44:24 Adam Wait, can you sing like a few bars of a song for us?

44:27 Caller That would be like, I'm so like, nervous right now.

44:29 Adam Breathe in.

44:30 Cindy Margolis You can do it.

44:31 Adam All right. In three, two, one, go.

44:34 Caller I don't know what song to sing now.

44:36 Adam Oh, all right, Tori, we got to go.

44:38 Cindy Margolis Okay, Tori, email me.

44:39 Caller I'll sing.

44:40 Cindy Margolis Okay, go.

44:41 Caller I think it's perfectly clear when the wrong band over. Heidi says she'll be sincere as much as she can know. I called her up and I said, you know, that I'm drowning. It's the dog train over again. He says that he thinks that I need more hunts.

45:04 Cindy Margolis All right, Tori, make some noise.

45:06 Adam Good job, Ryan, Tori. Email on Cindy and maybe she'll...

45:10 Caller I didn't ask her to do a computer. My hard drive crashed.

45:13 Cindy Margolis Okay, then you have to... Can we put her on hold and get her number? Yeah, OK, cool.

45:17 Adam Hold on one sec, OK? All right, can you guys get her number or something, and we'll track you down, and maybe you'll be able to hang the story.

45:22 Drew We're now going to have the 4,000th edition coming out of this show.

45:25 Cindy Margolis See what I've done?

45:26 Adam You opened up the biggest can of worms.

45:28 Cindy Margolis She was great, though. That was cute.

45:29 Adam I have a fantasy, or I want to be on that show.

45:32 Cindy Margolis Yeah, let's hear it.

45:32 Adam OK, I want to sleep at the Playboy Mansion.

45:35 Cindy Margolis Done.

45:36 Adam Seriously?

45:37 Cindy Margolis Done.

45:37 Adam Do I have to email you or just tell you right now?

45:39 Cindy Margolis You can tell me right now.

45:39 Adam Cindy, I want to sleep at the Playboy Mansion.

45:41 Cindy Margolis OK, I'll take care of you.

45:42 It's a lock, baby.

45:44 Adam Ew, what's going on? Me and you and the trip, those two women. OK, Jeff, 22, you're on Loveline. Drew, you can come. I see you over there going, oh, come on, let me go.

45:53 Drew No.

45:53 Adam Yeah, you are.

45:54 Drew You know you are. No, I'm not.

45:57 Adam Are you just saying, what the hell am I doing with this kid to my right?

46:01 Caller That's warmer.

46:02 Drew Closer to what I'm thinking.

46:05 Adam Jeff, you're 22 on Loveline.

46:07 Caller Hey, guys, how you doing?

46:08 Adam What's up?

46:08 Caller Cindy, love you.

46:09 Cindy Margolis Oh, hey, how are you?

46:11 Caller Great. I'm fine. Wow, Cindy Margolis. Anyways, let me tell you the reason that I'm calling. Basically, recently, I told my dad about a friend of his that messed with me when I was a kid, and sorry, I'm really nervous.

46:29 Drew How old were you at the time?

46:31 Caller It all happened between the time I was 4 and the time I was 7.

46:35 Drew And this was a close friend of his?

46:37 Caller Still a very close friend of his. Wow. And basically, I told him everything that happened, and he won't talk to me anymore.

46:46 Drew Is he just freaked out or what do you mean? Is he mad at you?

46:50 Caller I don't know. At first, the first thing he asked me after I told him was, why did I let it go on for so long? Why did I tell him did I like it and that sort of stuff?

47:00 Caller That's bad.

47:02 Drew If you were four, for Christ's sake.

47:07 Caller And he won't let my mom call me. And so I rarely get to talk to her. And one thing you have to know about me is I don't have a lot of friends. I'm very, very close to my family. I mean, I love them very much.

47:21 Adam Do you have a phone you can use to call your mom?

47:24 Caller Yeah, but if my dad answers the phone, you know.

47:28 Adam Oh, you don't live with your parents?

47:29 Caller No.

47:30 Adam OK, got it.

47:30 Drew What is your dad's deal?

47:33 Caller I don't know.

47:35 Cindy Margolis So your dad isn't speaking to you, but he's still friends with this man?

47:39 Caller Yeah, he golfs with him. That's one of the things.

47:42 Drew Oh, golf.

47:43 Adam That should take precedent, probably.

47:46 Caller And he's not that good of a golfer. But I have a four-year-old son, and my son is just... I mean, my dad is his Superman. He's in love with the guy. And he used to have lunch with my son every Wednesday. And he doesn't even call my son. He doesn't come by.

48:05 Drew How long has this been going on for?

48:08 Caller It's been about two months.

48:11 Drew You've got to figure out a way to reconcile this. And can't you, at least on behalf of your son, get something going?

48:16 Caller You've got to understand I'm not mad at my dad. I don't have any problem with my dad at all. And I've tried to talk to him. And it's like he's afraid to touch me. And he used to be one of those, I mean, like I'm 22 years old. And he would still hug me and tell me he loved me and how proud he was of me and my life and what I'm doing because I'm about to get married. And now he just won't even, you know, he won't have anything to do with me.

48:40 Drew Can you, this is all his crap, you know. It's nothing to do with you.

48:45 Caller It's not like he's even acting like he's mad at me. It's just he avoids my phone calls and then I'll call, like a couple of times that I have called my mom and fix the phone and said, your dad's here. I'll call you back later.

48:56 Drew Hold on. We got to take a break. Yeah. I want to talk some more to Jeff here.

48:59 Adam Jeff, can you hold on one sec?

49:00 Drew Yes.

49:00 Adam All right. We're going to get to the bottom of Jeff's problem, which is a deep bottom, I'm sure.

49:05 Cindy Margolis Yes. Definitely poor Jeff.

49:07 Adam All right. Cindy's here, Stryker for Adam and Dr. Drew. More Loveline with Jeff and all the shenanigans next.

49:12 Drew Hold on.

49:13 Loveline, Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191, we'll be right back.

49:59 Adam We're back, it's Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. Ted Stryker here, in for Ace Rockolla, but have no fear, the man will be back on Sunday, right Drew?

50:09 Drew I am fearful about that.

50:11 Adam Are you? I'm afraid when he's, like, when Dr. Bruce fills in for you, he rags on the guy the whole time, and then you come back, and he just goes on, Dr. Bruce, this, Dr. Bruce.

50:21 Drew That he was great.

50:22 Adam No, no.

50:23 Drew Oh, that he was bad.

50:23 Adam Yes, yes, he's happy to have you back. Now, I can't, he's got, I hope he can't what he says about me. I listen to Stryker.

50:30 Drew No, no, he doesn't listen.

50:31 Caller All right, don't worry.

50:32 Adam Okay, well, Rackola, you're hairy, you masturbate as much as me, and I have a garage that works. He talks about his garage a lot.

50:39 Caller Right?

50:39 Drew Doesn't he? He's building a cathedral-like garage.

50:42 Adam Exactly, I want to go over there. Cindy Margolis is here, and you got the Cindy Margolis Show, Saturday Nights. Check it out when you get home, and you've had a few beers. You'll have material in your mind to take care of business, guys, for at least seven months, right?

50:55 Cindy Margolis Yes, and Bo Weiser is our sponsor, so it's okay to watch my show drunk.

50:59 Adam There you go, exactly. Dr. Drew is nodding his head.

51:03 Drew I was shaking my head.

51:05 Adam Shaking your head going, yeah, yeah, I'm going to do that. Now, I got a fax the other day. Somebody has overtaken you as the most downloadable woman on the internet, have you heard about that?

51:14 Cindy Margolis I have heard about that. Actually, no, it's completely different. It's Dani Ash, and she is the most downloaded x-rated site. She does, you know, porno chicks. I keep my clothes on, so it's a completely different category.

51:26 Adam Have you posed for a playboy or anything like that?

51:28 Cindy Margolis I have not. You know, but I have nothing against nudity. I'm not here to say.

51:31 Adam You've been offered it, yeah?

51:32 Cindy Margolis It's just a personal choice.

51:33 Adam Just don't want to do it.

51:34 Cindy Margolis You know, my mom would kill me, so. What would your husband think? He may kill me too.

51:39 Adam Really?

51:40 Cindy Margolis So, you know, I don't think anyone would care now. Everyone's doing it, so, you know, I'm just going to keep my clothes on.

51:45 Adam Don't you think it's amazing how many hits you get on your site with the clothes on?

51:48 Cindy Margolis Isn't that cool?

51:49 Adam Yeah. For the first time in my life, please don't slap me. I actually checked out your website tonight.

51:53 Cindy Margolis Well, I hope so.

51:54 Adam It was very cool. Scantily clad in the bikinis.

51:57 Cindy Margolis Sexy girl next door. Definitely. I have a whole girl talk community for women too.

52:01 Adam What's up with the girl talk? The community for women.

52:04 Cindy Margolis I have my own home shopping products. I'm a spokesperson for imamogram.com. There's a reason for women to come to my site. And, you know, when I put up my wedding pictures, they got downloaded more than my bikini pictures. So there you go.

52:14 Adam Well, it's because of your husband Guy.

52:16 Cindy Margolis Exactly.

52:16 Adam Who I just talked to during the break. Old friend of mine. Your husband is nutty. What are you doing giving the eye over there for?

52:23 Cindy Margolis We will respond over here.

52:24 Drew For the famous drop.

52:25 Adam It wasn't. What famous drop?

52:28 Drew OK.

52:29 Adam We're moving on. Drew is looking at me very weird.

52:32 Caller Jeff, you're gay.

52:35 Caller I'm gay.

52:36 Adam Jeff, 22. You're not gay. We were just talking to you for a second.

52:41 Caller I got the end of it.

52:42 Adam Let me just rehash what's going on with you very quickly. All right. Jeff finally broke down. He told his dad that he was molested between four and seven years old by his dad's friend who his dad still talks to and plays golf with. Your dad apparently is very upset about this. And now he won't even talk to you when you had a very close relationship before you told him, right?

53:00 Drew Right.

53:00 Adam Now you want to know what the hell to do with your life because you still love your dad. You still want to hug him and you're getting married soon. Dr. Drew, this is you.

53:07 Drew Isn't there any sort of third-person liaison you could use to try to make the contact? Mom, uncle, aunt, somebody else that he respects?

53:17 Caller Yeah, the thing is my dad is just like a really hard-headed person and...

53:20 Drew I understand, but he's clearly not willing to even have any contact with you for reasons that are truly bizarre.

53:25 Caller Right, and that's the problem. If I knew what the problem was, I know my dad is willing to go fix it.

53:30 Drew I understand, but he's not going to allow you that opportunity. So you have to have somebody else make the contact and begin moving them in the right direction because whatever is going on with him, it's bizarre and it's all in his head.

53:41 Caller Right.

53:41 Drew He needs somebody to talk a little sense into him, and he's not going to allow that from you. So who else can you contact?

53:46 Adam It doesn't sound like your mom can do it either, just from the way your mother cannot talk to you. Probably not.

53:50 Drew It sounds like it needs to be another male, so just judging by it. Why don't you, could you ever get the friend that perpetrated this to... To admit it? Not just admit it, but to make at least some amends by helping heal this rift?

54:06 Caller Okay, the guy that did it, when I see him around town or whatever, he winks at me, blows kisses at me. I'm 22 years old, I can handle it.

54:19 Drew That is bizarre.

54:20 Caller At the same time, it's really hard for me to, I mean, I can't bring myself to talk to the guy.

54:25 Drew I don't blame you.

54:25 Adam Do you have any uncles in town, big men, that can put some sense into this dude and your dad?

54:31 Drew Your dad, primarily, we're interested in.

54:33 Caller Possibly, the thing is, I haven't even told my fiance about what happened. It took me 22 years to tell somebody, and now I'm forced into a situation where if I'm going to get things fixed with my dad, I have to tell everyone that I know, or the whole family is going to know.

54:52 Drew I don't know that's true, but you do need to tell somebody to try to help move this in the right direction.

54:58 Cindy Margolis Is there other people in the family, an uncle, a grandfather, anybody?

55:02 Caller That's the problem, because it took me so long to even get to the point where I could tell him, you know? I'm not even at a place where I can tell other people about it.

55:10 Drew I'm a little nervous about uncles or grandfathers, because they're going to be of the same sort of cultural mindset as dad. As a father, right. But you got to tell somebody, because he's not going to allow you the contact. And at least on behalf of your son, make an effort here.

55:26 Adam How can a dad go from this loving guy to seems like a monster now?

55:29 Drew Well, that's what makes this a little bit suspicious, because dad's real, I mean, people don't do that. They don't give you a perfectly open, caring, wonderful person to shut down a distant, hostile, angry, bigoted guy.

55:44 Caller Okay, let me throw another wrench in the dill here. Whenever I was a little bit younger, I think I told them, I think I remember telling my parents, but nothing ever became of it. And so I'm wondering now if he knew, and if he just, you know, if he doesn't care, or he wanted to ignore it, or whatever, and now maybe he's just really hurt that I'm bringing it up again, or what?

56:13 Drew No, no, no, he probably just didn't believe you the first time around.

56:17 Caller Because at this point, I'm just really, I'm crushed, I'm honestly...

56:23 Drew For some reason, you remember American Beauty, The Neighbor?

56:26 Caller Yeah.

56:26 Adam Yes.

56:27 Drew That's what's sort of flashing in my head.

56:28 Adam Me too, I was thinking the same thing a second ago, actually during the break, yeah. Well, Jeff, I mean, Dr. Drew has given you some good advice. I don't know if there's much more he can say or we all can say.

56:37 Drew The next thing would be to get, if you can't do it on your own, to get professional help and have somebody assist you through this.

56:42 Caller I appreciate it, guys.

56:42 Adam All right, Jeff, man.

56:43 Drew Good luck.

56:44 Caller Is there any way I could get that number from you?

56:45 Drew Which one?

56:46 Caller That you gave the other girl, the singer.

56:49 Adam About the fantasy?

56:51 Cindy Margolis Of course.

56:52 Caller I don't mean to open up that can of worms, but...

56:55 Adam Definitely. Which number was she talking about?

56:57 Cindy Margolis His number, right? Your number, Jeff?

56:59 Caller Right. Sure.

57:00 Adam Hold on one sec.

57:01 Cindy Margolis Take an audition.

57:02 Drew I told you.

57:03 Adam All right. Love... What is it? That's the number Drew here? Yeah, all discombobulated. Poor Jeff. Justin? Yeah. Seventeen, Loveline. What's up?

57:11 Yeah, this question is mainly for Dr. Drew. Over the past two years, I've dropped about 59 doses of acid, and I don't notice really too many side effects right now, but I was wondering what the long-term effects are going to be.

57:23 Drew Are you still seeing trailers?

57:24 Yeah, I still get occasional flashbacks.

57:27 Drew But not just flashbacks, but most people that have had more than 30 hits of acid keep seeing trailers.

57:32 Not constantly, but I'd say every couple of weeks or so, I definitely see trails.

57:37 Drew Okay, and is it in the context of a true flashback, or you just all of a sudden see trailers?

57:41 It's just all of a sudden, you know, it's just the trails from the hands.

57:43 Drew All right, well, that's a sign that your brain has been altered, right? You don't see trailers just because. You see it because that part of the brain has been damaged and changed.

57:51 Yeah.

57:51 Drew And people that have that particular symptom tend to be the ones that have mood disorders, the disturbances that develop sometimes as long as five or ten years later. And they're usually quite, quite profound.

58:02 Oh, really?

58:02 Drew Yeah, lots of depression, lots of anxiety, and stuff that just starts kicking in later.

58:07 Is there any way to, like, prevent that or?

58:09 Drew No, there are medications that can treat it later, but you just got to stay on top of it.

58:13 Adam And stop doing 59 hits of acid by 17. Now, where are you taking the acid? Concerts? In your parents' house? At school?

58:21 Caller Well, I started taking the raise, but then it was just kind of like I loved it so much, you know, I just kept doing it, like at school and wherever.

58:28 Drew Yeah, it's the people that have the bad trips that are actually the lucky ones, because they don't do it again. They do it until they have a bad trip and then they stop. And it is the cumulative effect of this drug that has its toxic effects, the neurotoxic effects, and it damages the brain.

58:41 Adam And your brain can't recover from it?

58:42 Drew It does not recover.

58:43 Adam Once it's damaged, you're done. Forget it. Stop doing the acid test.

58:46 Drew Yeah, I was just reading an article the other day on the neuropsychiatric effects of ecstasy, which are, again, as long as your arm.

58:52 Adam We talked about this last night.

58:53 Yeah.

58:54 Adam Yeah.

58:55 Drew Yeah.

58:56 Adam Johnny.

58:57 Yeah.

58:57 Adam What's up, man? 27.

58:58 Yeah, I was going to ask Dr. Drew about... I've been trying to get my wife pregnant for a couple of months right now. We've been married for a year. And, well, I've been using marijuana for about 11 years.

59:11 Drew No.

59:11 Like, every day, smoker.

59:13 Drew We're shocked.

59:14 And I was wondering, could that be the effect, you know?

59:18 Drew I suppose it could be. It's not as though you're going to have severe fertility problems from smoking pot. But if you already were sort of marginal, it might be enough to give, push you into troubled territory.

59:30 Let me say this. I've been with her for about 10 years. And at the beginning of the relationship.

59:34 Drew She got pregnant.

59:35 Oh, yeah. We used to have sex. No, no, no. We used to have sex, like, three times a day. You know how it is at the beginning. I used to come inside all the time. And I never once got her pregnant. And then one time we got a scare. I took her to the clinic. She was not pregnant, but I stopped doing that. And, well, right now she's on the pill. And what happened was, like, about a week ago, she told me she missed her period. And also she's diabetic.

1:00:04 Adam I don't know what's going on here. Hold on one second.

1:00:06 Drew She doesn't finish the story. Go ahead.

1:00:09 Yeah, well, also she's diabetic.

1:00:10 She missed her period.

1:00:12 She's on the pill. I wanted to know, can you get pregnant even on the pill?

1:00:15 Drew It can happen, but you can also miss your period on the pill. Yeah, that's even more common.

1:00:21 I was going to ask, well, how come she never got pregnant at the beginning? Like, I've never gotten a girl pregnant. I've never even-

1:00:26 Drew Well, maybe you have some fertility problems. If you guys are interested in having a child and you're ready to have one, which you're not, you can go to get a sperm count, have her have something called a hysterosalpingogram, where they actually light the tubes up with a dye to see how they're functioning, and to see if there's any source of problems that might be the reason that you're having difficulty with fertility.

1:00:46 Adam He doesn't know anything you're saying either, do I?

1:00:48 No, no, I do, and also I was going to say like, My wife tells me, it's all the pot smoking, but I tell her like, look it, like she's got, like there's other relatives and friends that we know that are smokers that smoke, you know, for years, and they're having babies like crazy, they have three kids.

1:01:04 Adam Why do you want to have a kid right now, Johnny?

1:01:07 Well, we want one.

1:01:08 Adam Because why? Tell me why.

1:01:10 We're ready for one, we could have one.

1:01:12 Drew Why? Are you married?

1:01:14 Yeah, we're married. We've been together for 10 years. We got married last year. And well, for the past two or three months, like we've been trying, like we're not trying, but she's been telling me she wants to, but she's on the pill.

1:01:25 Adam Well, she has to stop taking the pill, and then...

1:01:28 Drew She has to stop taking the pill, that's for sure. And yes, indeed, like I said at the beginning, marijuana is not a sort of common cause of infertility, but if you're already having problems, it could sort of move you further along into difficulty.

1:01:41 Adam And, Johnny, listen, if you've been smoking for 10 years, you better stop when the baby, if you get your wife pregnant, you better stop when the baby comes out, and most likely your child is going to have that same trait, possibly, right?

1:01:52 Drew 50% probability. And marijuana does reduce testosterone levels and can reduce sperm count and libido and whatnot on that basis.

1:01:59 Cindy Margolis A lot of drag calls tonight.

1:02:01 Drew Lot of them.

1:02:01 Cindy Margolis Yeah.

1:02:01 Adam We're bringing them out, Cindy. Cindy Margolis is in here at Loveline. And Raymond22, what's up?

1:02:08 Hey, I got some typical signs of OCD and sexual compulsion. I went in, and I'm at the university here, and I went in and saw some people to health care, and got some help for a while, both psychiatric and with a therapist. And I'm just lined up to go to a bigger thing, some psychiatric institute kind of thing. Where? It's right here in town. It's actually in Madison.

1:02:36 Drew Wisconsin.

1:02:36 Right.

1:02:37 Adam Right there with the cheese heads.

1:02:38 That's right, man.

1:02:40 Adam Raymond, what kind of things are you doing to make you think you're compulsive sexually? What's going on?

1:02:45 You know, regular masturbation since like eighth grade.

1:02:50 Drew Regular meaning four times a day?

1:02:51 No, we're talking probably about half that.

1:02:54 Drew Twice a day.

1:02:55 Adam That's normal, almost.

1:02:57 See, that's what people keep to, you know, kind of mediate or moderate, you know, when they kind of talk to you, this kind of thing. But it's just weird how it kind of plays mind games with you, and you don't believe that.

1:03:07 Adam Are you doing anything that's messing up the rest of your life due to sexual activity?

1:03:12 Not messing up. You know, I've been pretty clarified as far as the difference between compulsion and addiction, but like still where it interferes and you like at times where you just can accomplish tasks and whatnot.

1:03:24 Drew Because you're doing this?

1:03:26 Right, exactly.

1:03:27 Drew So it's having an effect.

1:03:28 Adam So why do you need psychiatric help?

1:03:31 Well, I don't know. Just with these other OCD symptoms and getting medication for it.

1:03:37 Drew What are your other OCD symptoms?

1:03:39 Like trick-tail mania.

1:03:41 Drew Pulling his hair out.

1:03:42 Yeah.

1:03:42 Drew What else?

1:03:43 Which is very minor right now. Like it flared up when I was back in like fourth, fifth grade. And I was mainly with eyelashes and stuff. And now it's real. It does... excuse me, it's really infrequent.

1:03:57 Drew What other OCD?

1:04:00 Just like pretty hardcore organization skills. I mean like overly abundant where it's kind of taking up time when you should be doing other things, that kind of stuff.

1:04:11 Adam Do you have to masturbate a certain way every single day?

1:04:14 No, not a certain way or a certain amount of times, but it's just more of the fact where it's more of an interference. It's a nuisance. It's not something like you're relaxed about. It's just more like you kind of have to do it at...

1:04:25 Cindy Margolis So he's not enjoying it?

1:04:26 Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's just getting kind of being a dead horse, so to speak.

1:04:31 Drew All right. So there are some compulsive features here. And why are they sending you to the Neuropsychiatric Institute?

1:04:40 Excuse me?

1:04:41 Drew Why are they sending you to a larger freestanding institute? Psychiatric Institute?

1:04:44 I guess I just agreed with the therapist and the doctor that we kind of hit a standstill.

1:04:49 Drew And there would be more to be done there?

1:04:51 Right. And I was just wondering, basically my inquiry was whether or not you had any other ideas or anything. I've read books on OCD and whatnot to just try to find some kind of self-control, that kind of stuff.

1:05:03 Drew Well, there are obviously multiple ways of intervening on that. The medication, which I'm sure you're on one of the serotonin drugs.

1:05:08 Right.

1:05:08 Drew And to realize that none of those medications are universally effective for anybody. You have to kind of fish around a little bit for the one for you, particularly if it pertains to the trichotillomania.

1:05:17 Right.

1:05:17 Drew Okay. And then you've tried the individual psychotherapy, and there are behavioral modalities too. And I suspect that's why they're sending you on, is to get more intensive behavioral work.

1:05:25 Exactly. And I was curious with the medication. I know they said it can even vary by dose to dose.

1:05:30 Stryker Yep.

1:05:30 There's arguments about whether or not it'll let you do better.

1:05:33 Drew More or less. Yep. You got to fish around. You got to work with it a little bit.

1:05:35 Okay. And I was working on Zoloft, like a real small amount right now. And I always inquired about that too, if it would be worthwhile to try, you know, just to switch medications altogether. It would be.

1:05:49 Drew Oh, yeah.

1:05:50 Okay.

1:05:50 Drew And then going up, again, no single medicine is predictably reliable for any given person. So you got to fish around a little bit. And then these serotonin drugs will decrease your libido a little bit, make you a little less compulsive sexually.

1:06:02 Adam Also, badger football will help Raymond. Badger basketball. They took out the Wildcats last year.

1:06:07 In other words, I'm at the right university right now.

1:06:10 Adam What's that?

1:06:10 I'm at the right university for what I'm about.

1:06:12 Adam The badgers cure sexual compulsivity. All right, man?

1:06:16 All right. I appreciate your help.

1:06:17 Drew See you later.

1:06:18 Take care.

1:06:18 Adam All right. It's Love Lime. Cindy Margolis is here, striker for Ace Rockolla.

1:06:23 Drew Raymond, the jovial hair puller.

1:06:24 Adam Yeah, the jovial hair puller from Wisconsin. Let's take a look at Lizzie. She's 22.

1:06:29 Caller Hi, guys. I have kind of like a big problem here. I'm getting married in about two months. And a few months ago, my boyfriend and I were making love, and we had taken ecstasy pills. And what he did was, in the middle of us making love, he reached over and called some girl on the phone and was kind of like, I don't know, if he thought, it felt like it was having a threesome or what. But once I realized what was going on, all I could do was cry. And ever since then, I have like this really big trust issue with him, even though he's never cheated on me.

1:07:13 Drew I don't understand. You mean he was talking to another woman while you guys were...

1:07:16 Adam Who was the woman? That's what I wanted to know.

1:07:18 Caller He just said it was some friend that he used to know from heights or junior high.

1:07:26 Drew I don't trust your boyfriend.

1:07:27 Adam Who has their number memorized from the junior high friends?

1:07:30 Cindy Margolis And he was having phone sex with her?

1:07:32 Adam While having sex with you.

1:07:33 Caller He was having sex with me, but he called her and he would put the phone next to me so she could hear me moan. And then he would get the phone back and talk to her. And we were just really out of it. And once I realized what was going on, I couldn't... I don't know.

1:07:51 Adam You put that on a website, you will top Cindy Margolis' website. Talking on the phone, having sex.

1:07:57 Cindy Margolis And how old is he?

1:07:59 Caller I'm 22 and he's 20.

1:08:01 Cindy Margolis Oh, he's younger.

1:08:02 Drew It sounds awful. Really, it sounds just awful.

1:08:05 Adam Well, they were on Ecstasy. It's the first time he's done it. And he's never cheated on her before. I think it just has to do with the Ecstasy. But now you're reaping the effects.

1:08:14 Caller Why did he do that?

1:08:15 Caller Is it just he wanted to feel... I don't know.

1:08:18 Caller He just said he was just high.

1:08:19 Caller He didn't know what he was doing.

1:08:21 Drew That may be.

1:08:22 Caller But he knew the number well.

1:08:24 Cindy Margolis Right. It sounds like he's immature, too. 20 years old. Yeah. You already have these trust issues. You cannot get married if you have trust issues. I'm married. I know that. I'm telling you, if you have any doubts and trust issues before you get married, do not walk down that aisle. Coming from a woman to a woman, I'm telling you, you know a woman's instinct. And it probably isn't the first time. I mean, you don't know that he's cheated on you. But he's only 20 years old calling other girls where you're having sex. Ecstasy just isn't a good sign.

1:08:53 Adam I agree. All right, Lizzie?

1:08:55 Caller OK, thanks.

1:08:55 Adam All right, good luck.

1:08:57 Caller Thanks.

1:08:57 Adam Look at Cindy coming through in the clutch at 1119 here on Loveline.

1:09:00 Cindy Margolis I'm trying.

1:09:01 Adam All right, we have to take a break. Cindy Margolis is here. You're going to hang out till 12 with us, right?

1:09:04 Cindy Margolis Yes.

1:09:05 Adam All right, she's got a new show, Cindy Margolis Show. It's on Saturday nights. We'll discuss that and talk to Sam, who has something to talk about. And it's sex. Is that OK?

1:09:14 Cindy Margolis Big surprise.

1:09:14 Adam All right, Loveline coming up next. Hold on.

1:09:19 Stryker Um, back in a minute.

1:09:49 Adam We're back. It's Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. I'm Stryker. Thanks you guys for being so cool calling in, by the way. Big shoes to fill for Ace Rockolla, who's coming back on Sunday. Dr. Drew is here. Cindy Margolis, you know what I need to ask you?

1:10:04 Cindy Margolis What do you need to ask me?

1:10:05 Adam Did you ever work the Plinko board when you worked on The Price is Right?

1:10:08 Cindy Margolis I did not. I know. I didn't graduate to that.

1:10:12 Adam You never got to do it. So is that like the godfather of women for the work behind the models? They get to do the Plinko?

1:10:19 Cindy Margolis I did get to learn how to do one hand, and this would be two hand a car, so I got to learn that, but I didn't get to work there.

1:10:26 Adam How about Safecrackers?

1:10:28 Cindy Margolis No, or the Cliffhanger. No, I suck. No, I didn't get to do any of them.

1:10:33 Adam Little man going up the hill. How about the card game? I like the card game. They have to be between, but I don't think they use any of the models for that.

1:10:40 Cindy Margolis No, I just mostly flipped.

1:10:42 Adam Oh, you did?

1:10:42 Cindy Margolis Flipping the price and showing.

1:10:43 Adam Like the one where you have 30 seconds to put all four prices on the four different prizes and then how many did she get right, Cindy? You pull the arm level down.

1:10:51 Cindy Margolis He knows more about it than I do for in trouble.

1:10:54 Adam Well, I'm hoping to model on the price. I want to be the first male model on the price is right.

1:10:57 Cindy Margolis I think you should. All right.

1:10:59 Adam Ted Stryker walking up the Plinko stairs. Cindy Margolis show is on Saturday nights, late night. Check it out in the city near you and drink the Budweiser while you do it. All right. Right.

1:11:08 Caller Right.

1:11:09 Adam All right. We're on Cindy. Jessica 17. Loveline, what's going on?

1:11:13 Caller Hi.

1:11:13 Caller OK. Every time like that I'm with my boyfriend, like we pull into a parking lot or something and I'm giving him a blowjob. So like until we finally was at during and like after his orgasm, he like he likes getting really paranoid and thinks like someone's watching us.

1:11:29 Adam Well, you're in a car in public.

1:11:31 Caller But it's like late at night and there's nobody there. So really empty parking lot.

1:11:35 Drew And what does he do in response to that paranoia?

1:11:38 Caller He starts shaking. He starts breaking out in a sweat. He starts hyperventilating.

1:11:42 Drew And what do you guys do? Just go home?

1:11:45 Caller Well, like we like get dressed. We like go outside and like breathe some fresh air for a little bit. And then I take him home.

1:11:51 Drew I think Stryker is a diabolical reason to get out of his responsibility of reciprocating.

1:11:56 Caller No. Whenever he does the reciprocation, he always does that first before I give him a blowjob.

1:12:02 Drew I see.

1:12:04 Adam So you're doing the reciprocating.

1:12:05 Caller Well, we don't always do me because I take longer.

1:12:09 Cindy Margolis But are you always in public when you do this? Why are you always in public?

1:12:13 Caller Well, because I'm 17 and he's 16, and home with our parents isn't exactly the best place to do something like that.

1:12:20 Adam What kind of car do you guys have?

1:12:22 Caller Toyota Corolla.

1:12:23 Adam Toyota Corolla, and he takes care of you in the Toyota Adam Corolla?

1:12:28 Drew How many times has this happened that he's gotten so paranoid?

1:12:31 Caller Like six or seven times, and like it didn't used to be so bad, but like I think it's like getting worse. Like the last time we did it, he like totally freaked out. He was shaking, like he almost started crying.

1:12:43 Drew So it's a panic attack, really. It's not paranoia, huh?

1:12:46 Adam What's he like after he takes care of you?

1:12:49 Caller He's fine. He's not paranoid when he's horny, because he thinks he's going to get something. But like after he has his orgasm, like he's like totally.

1:13:01 Drew What is he afraid will happen if somebody were to find you guys?

1:13:03 Caller Well, he like keeps thinking there's like some police across the street who like arrest us for.

1:13:08 Drew Does he do cocaine or speed or anything like that?

1:13:10 Caller No, we've had marijuana once. We shared a joint, but neither of us got high.

1:13:14 Cindy Margolis Have you had sex though? You slept together, right?

1:13:18 Yeah, but it was after what I told you.

1:13:20 Caller We just had sex like two days ago for the first time.

1:13:24 Adam Did he wear a condom?

1:13:25 Caller Yeah.

1:13:25 Drew Good.

1:13:25 Caller But that was fine because my parents weren't home, so we did it in my room.

1:13:29 Drew He didn't suffer the paranoia then?

1:13:30 Caller No.

1:13:31 Adam Are you going to graduate to the Corolla for sex?

1:13:35 Caller Probably.

1:13:35 Drew Good. Again, I don't know why it's so monumentally important to him presuming this is some sort of real feeling he's having, why it's so frightening to have been caught. But-

1:13:46 Caller I don't know, but last time I really got scared for him, I thought like, yeah.

1:13:51 Drew He was having a panic attack, a panic attack sometimes, well, having panic anyway, and then sometimes that can be triggered by environmental cues, and so this whole process now re-triggers panic every time. So you've got to have some experiences in environments that are less anxiety provoking so these things aren't sort of provoked.

1:14:09 Caller Well, we've done it a few times in my room, and that's been fine. We've done it at his house when his parents weren't home, that was fine.

1:14:16 Adam Well, then it's got to be in the public. He's nervous about getting caught.

1:14:18 Cindy Margolis Were you virgins?

1:14:20 Caller Yeah, we've been virgins up until two days ago.

1:14:23 Drew You need to find other places you can do it that are safe for him, that's all.

1:14:27 Adam I'd panic too if I had it done in the parking lot.

1:14:29 Caller Well, that's like the safest place we can do it though.

1:14:32 Drew Well, it doesn't make him feel safe though.

1:14:34 Caller Okay.

1:14:35 Adam All right, Jessica.

1:14:35 Caller So what would you suggest?

1:14:36 Adam I would suggest to find a hotel or wait till your parents leave your house and he won't break out in sweats and possibly cry.

1:14:42 Caller Okay.

1:14:44 Adam I got an answer right, Dr. Drew. Sign me up again when Corolla is gone. Ashley, you are 13 on Loveline.

1:14:50 Caller Hi.

1:14:51 Caller I feel like I'm always having like fantasies to have sex and stuff.

1:14:58 Adam Well, you're 13.

1:14:58 Cindy Margolis That's normal.

1:14:59 Adam And is it with a guy?

1:15:02 Caller Normally, yeah.

1:15:03 Adam Do you have a boyfriend right now?

1:15:04 Caller No.

1:15:05 Adam Have you had a boyfriend before?

1:15:06 Caller Yeah.

1:15:07 Adam Have you kissed a guy?

1:15:08 Caller Yeah.

1:15:08 Adam What's the farthest you've gone?

1:15:11 Caller I've had sex before.

1:15:12 Adam Oh, so you're constantly fantasizing about that then? With that same person or just sex in general?

1:15:17 Caller With different people.

1:15:19 Caller People I even hate.

1:15:20 Adam How many times have you had sex before?

1:15:22 Caller Once.

1:15:24 Drew People you hate.

1:15:25 Cindy Margolis Isn't it a form of curiosity that she's fantasizing she's only 13?

1:15:29 Drew Yeah, the fact that she's had sex at 13 is already a little bit of a red flag.

1:15:32 Cindy Margolis I know.

1:15:33 Caller Yeah.

1:15:33 Drew And fantasizing about having sex with people she hates.

1:15:37 Caller I was raped when I was younger.

1:15:39 Adam I was just going to ask. What happened to you as a kid?

1:15:41 Caller I...

1:15:42 Adam Well, you are taking the route that Dr. Drew has mentioned the last three days. You can take a route where you don't do anything sexually or you take a route where it's just...

1:15:50 Drew It becomes hypersexual.

1:15:51 Adam Hypersexual, right.

1:15:52 Drew You're going down that path.

1:15:53 Adam You need to get some help, Ashley.

1:15:55 Caller I'm saying counseling, but I'm too scared to talk to her about this.

1:15:58 Drew You gotta talk to her. That's the reason you're there. Please, before you hurt yourself, start talking about it, okay?

1:16:05 Adam Seriously, why are you afraid to open up to her?

1:16:09 Caller Kind of. I don't know.

1:16:11 Adam This person will not tell a soul, and if there's one person you can open up to, it's going to be this person helping you. So I know it's hard, but once you do it, you will feel so much better in the long run. She'll help you, okay?

1:16:22 Cindy Margolis Yes, you have to do it.

1:16:24 Adam All right, Ashley.

1:16:25 Caller Can I leave my phone number?

1:16:28 Adam Are you a singer?

1:16:29 Cindy Margolis Of course, Ashley.

1:16:30 Adam I was molested as a youngster, but I sing like Macy Gray.

1:16:35 Adam Hold on, okay?

1:16:36 Adam All right. What is the weirdest request, Cindy, you have had for someone to get on the E Channel show about becoming a star or doing something like that?

1:16:45 Cindy Margolis I don't know, wanting to sleep at the Playboy Mansion?

1:16:47 Adam Sleep at the Playboy Mansion? That is not weird. Every guy, oh, back me up. Drew, you don't want to do that?

1:16:52 Drew No.

1:16:53 Cindy Margolis See, that's weird. Let's analyze them.

1:16:56 Adam Okay, hold on. I'm going to ask, let me find someone. Uh, hey, Brandon.

1:17:01 Yeah?

1:17:01 Adam Would you ever want to sleep at the Playboy Mansion?

1:17:03 Heck yeah.

1:17:04 Adam Thank you!

1:17:05 Cindy Margolis Wait, let's see what else Brandon has to say. Yeah.

1:17:08 Adam All right, what's going on with you, man? You're 15.

1:17:11 Caller Oh, yeah, I've had sex with my girlfriend once, and it feels better when I masturbate. I mean, I get discomfort.

1:17:18 Drew What was it, Adam's friend, the Wheeze, that said, you know, sex is great, but it's not the real thing?

1:17:24 Adam You know what you should do? Flip your hand upside down. It feels like someone else is doing it.

1:17:28 Drew Well, Brandon, maybe you're just not ready to be engaged in that kind of relationship with a person yet, and that's fine. There's a lot that goes into that. People are a hassle, among other things, right? And you're 15, your partner's probably 15 also, and neither of you really know or are ready to figure things out, just take your time. Maybe you shouldn't be in such a big hurry.

1:17:49 Adam Do you have a fur coat in the house you can use? No, I don't. Ah, get a synthetic fur coat, man. That'll take care of everything. All right. All right, dude.

1:17:56 Drew What the hell does that mean?

1:17:58 Adam Use the fur coat to take care of business.

1:17:59 Drew Synthetic fur coat?

1:18:00 Adam Well, you don't want to buy real fur, whatever, you know, fake fur, whatever it's called.

1:18:03 Drew Okay.

1:18:03 Cindy Margolis What?

1:18:04 Drew Always thinking, Trek. Way to go.

1:18:05 Cindy Margolis That went over my head.

1:18:06 Adam It did? I'll explain it to you later. Guy will tell you all about it. He knows about the fur coats. All right, Jennifer, you're 24, Loveline, what's up?

1:18:14 Caller I have a really hard time telling the difference between things that I've dreamt and things that have really happened.

1:18:20 Drew Recky, give us an example.

1:18:23 Caller A couple days ago, I had a dream that my father did something that upset me and for like an hour after I woke up, I was really mad at him and I had decided that I was never going to speak to him again. That's not a good example.

1:18:38 Drew And do you lie in bed and have trouble waking up in the morning?

1:18:41 Caller I do.

1:18:42 Drew Yeah, so you're kind of still asleep, right?

1:18:46 Caller Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes I will wake up and I'm still in my dream.

1:18:51 Drew Do you have night terrors when you wake up and yell or feel locked in but you can't move?

1:18:57 Caller No, I don't.

1:18:58 Drew Nothing like that. You ever sleepwalk?

1:19:01 Caller No.

1:19:04 Cindy Margolis So basically you have these feelings when you wake up about something you dreamt and they're very strong feelings?

1:19:10 Caller No, I mean, there are things that I've dreamt and I really thought they happened until I talked to someone about it who had been in my dream and they said, What are you talking about? That never happened and I could have sworn.

1:19:24 Drew Are you taking medication?

1:19:25 Caller No.

1:19:26 Drew And how long has this been going on for?

1:19:28 Caller As long as I can remember. I mean, I thought I could fly until I was 12 and I actually tried it.

1:19:33 Drew What did you do?

1:19:34 Caller I just tried waving my arms and nothing happened and I realized I couldn't fly.

1:19:38 Drew Have you ever told anybody about this?

1:19:40 Caller I just told my husband a couple days ago and that's why I called because he said that this sounds like I'm psychotic that I can't tell the difference between what's real and what's not.

1:19:49 Drew Well, that is a feature of psychosis and there may be something like that going on here. Or it could be a neurologic thing but it warrants evaluation I'd say. It may be a sleep disorder even.

1:20:00 Caller I did have an MRI and a sleep deprived EKG to see if maybe I, the neurologist said maybe I was having seizures and he said I wasn't.

1:20:13 Drew But you have, so you have seen somebody about this problem?

1:20:16 Caller Yeah, that was a long time ago.

1:20:19 Drew So you were aware that this was not normal and it might mean something?

1:20:22 Caller Yeah.

1:20:23 Drew Did they offer any medication or treatment?

1:20:25 Caller No, that was it. He did those tests and then I went.

1:20:28 Drew You ought to get back with them and let them know you're still troubled by these symptoms and see if there's anything they have to offer, okay?

1:20:34 Adam All right, Jennifer.

1:20:35 Drew Seems like it should be treatable.

1:20:36 Adam Definitely.

1:20:36 Caller Okay.

1:20:37 Adam All right. How about you? You ever have any psychotic dreams, crazy dreams?

1:20:40 Cindy Margolis Oh, all the time.

1:20:41 Adam Come on.

1:20:42 Cindy Margolis All the time.

1:20:43 Adam Really?

1:20:43 Drew They don't include you, Stryker. Don't worry.

1:20:45 Cindy Margolis Not until after tonight.

1:20:46 Adam Drew, you have, I have never seen you this witty, funny, smart-alecky before.

1:20:51 Drew Really?

1:20:52 Adam You want to go out sometime?

1:20:53 Drew No.

1:20:53 Adam Okay, good. John.

1:20:57 Caller Yeah?

1:20:57 Adam You're 15.

1:20:58 Caller Yeah.

1:20:59 Adam What's up, man?

1:21:00 Caller Well, I smoke a lot of pot.

1:21:02 Caller And I could...

1:21:03 Drew All shocked?

1:21:05 Caller Huh?

1:21:05 Drew We're shocked. Go ahead.

1:21:06 Caller No, and like, I think it has something to do with me masturbating a lot.

1:21:10 Adam You smoke pot? Because you masturbate, you're saying?

1:21:15 Drew Well, people who are addicts often are also sex addicts. So it's not as though the pot's making you masturbate more. It's that you're an addict and you're dealing with your feelings through these mechanisms of thrill and endorphin release and whatnot. And marijuana is... Excuse me, masturbation is one of the ways you can do that.

1:21:32 Caller Okay.

1:21:34 Adam All right, man. See you later. Lay off the bong.

1:21:36 Drew Ample evidence that marijuana actually shrinks the right frontal lobe of the brain, the part of the brain you use for development thought for moderate smokers at the age of 15.

1:21:47 Adam I don't know if potheads would rather smoke it or masturbate.

1:21:50 Drew Which, what do you think? They probably go through an internal struggle every, every opportunity.

1:21:56 Adam Am I going to knock one off here? Am I going to hit the bong?

1:21:58 Cindy Margolis Which is going to be, which is going to be decisions, decisions?

1:22:00 Drew And really it's which is first.

1:22:01 Adam Yeah, exactly. Okay, Jason, 17. What's up?

1:22:05 Howdy.

1:22:05 Adam Howdy.

1:22:06 Cindy Margolis Hey, Jason.

1:22:07 Yeah, I've got a really short tongue. I want to know how that's going to affect my going down on the woman and if there's anything I can do about it.

1:22:16 Adam Yes, there is.

1:22:17 Drew Well, there are people that will operate by cutting the frenulum on the base of the tongue so it comes out further, but it's not going to have any effect.

1:22:24 Caller No.

1:22:25 Drew You'll be fine.

1:22:26 Adam Have you gone down on a woman before?

1:22:27 Caller No.

1:22:28 Adam You know what? As long as you're down there, Cindy.

1:22:30 Cindy Margolis Yeah, that's all we, it's fine, Jason. I promise you it's fine.

1:22:34 Adam As long as your tongue is down there softly and gently, it should be fine, right?

1:22:38 Cindy Margolis You'll be fine.

1:22:39 Drew Yeah.

1:22:40 Cindy Margolis You can use your lips too.

1:22:41 Drew Pay attention to your partner.

1:22:42 Adam Use your lips too.

1:22:43 Cindy Margolis Yeah, your lips and your tongue.

1:22:44 Adam There you go. All right, Jason?

1:22:46 Okay, dude.

1:22:46 Adam All right. Good luck with the tongue.

1:22:48 Thank you very much.

1:22:49 Adam How about you, Drew?

1:22:51 Drew What?

1:22:51 Adam You good down there?

1:22:52 Drew Lips and tongue.

1:22:53 Adam Yeah?

1:22:53 Drew We're in Briggsville here.

1:22:56 Adam I knew he didn't want to talk about that. He wants to go to Briggs. All right. Cindy Margolis is here. More of Loveline next.

1:23:02 Stryker Hello. This is your radio. Loveline will be ready.

1:23:43 Adam All right, we're back, Loveline. Stryker here, my last few minutes in for Adam Corolla until the man is back on Sunday along with Dr. Drew and Cindy Margolis, who has a show, Saturday nights, a Cindy Margolis show.

1:23:54 Cindy Margolis This Saturday night, the pajama party.

1:23:56 Adam And what are you going to be wearing specifically?

1:23:59 Cindy Margolis What do you think?

1:24:00 Adam Is it going to be like the skimpy, skimpy, skimpy pajama?

1:24:03 Cindy Margolis We're talking Victoria's Secrets here, lingerie all the way.

1:24:06 Adam Okay. Couldn't have said it better myself. How do you, now isn't just the whole pool beach full of people that are hanging out during this thing, right?

1:24:16 Cindy Margolis I'm having a good time.

1:24:17 Adam Now you cast these people to be there?

1:24:19 Cindy Margolis Oh no, I invited everyone from my internet site, all my cyber buddies, what I call them. You know, I don't want to walk out on stage and have people go, who is this Cindy chick? I want to feel the audience. People have supported me over the past four years, so I put an invitation on my website and emailed all my cyber buddies and said, come on down to South Beach.

1:24:34 Adam Girls that good looking are not going on your website like that.

1:24:37 Cindy Margolis Yes, believe me, 40% of the people that come to my site are women. I had girls, guys, walked it out on stage and they were all there.

1:24:43 Adam I watched that show last week. I've got material, by the way, for a long time, as I mentioned earlier. What, Dr. Drew?

1:24:50 Cindy Margolis Let's see how he segues into anal beads after this.

1:24:53 Adam We're going right into the anal beads.

1:24:54 Cindy Margolis I want to see your segway, go.

1:24:56 Adam So I was drinking some Budweiser and these anal beads popped up and this is Mike, who's 24. What's going on?

1:25:01 Hey, guys. Well, here's the problem. It wasn't no drinking Budweiser, nothing like that. But me and my girlfriend were experimenting and the last anal bead has popped off.

1:25:14 Adam Up in there?

1:25:15 Up in there.

1:25:16 Adam And you want to know what?

1:25:18 What we can do or what the possible harm is.

1:25:22 Drew These are plastic?

1:25:23 Yes.

1:25:24 Drew Well, obstruction, I guess. Yeah, you would think it would come out as long as it's been up there.

1:25:30 Maybe five, ten minutes.

1:25:32 Drew Oh, it'll come out.

1:25:33 Adam It's up there right now?

1:25:34 Yeah, it's up there right now.

1:25:35 Adam Put her on the phone. I want to speak to her.

1:25:36 Caller Okay.

1:25:39 Adam Poor thing.

1:25:40 Drew What's her name?

1:25:42 Hello?

1:25:42 Adam Who is this?

1:25:43 This is Sarah.

1:25:44 Adam How's your butt?

1:25:45 It's fine.

1:25:46 I can't feel anything.

1:25:48 Drew You sure there's something in there?

1:25:49 Almost positive. Like 99% positive.

1:25:54 Drew Okay. Well, you will see it again.

1:25:56 Okay.

1:25:57 Adam Hey, for everyone out there, tell us exactly how this went down for the anal beads. You just said, ah, you know, sex is okay. You're down there with your mouth sometimes. We need anal beads. Is that how it came about?

1:26:08 Caller Exactly.

1:26:09 Adam And so where do you go buy these things?

1:26:11 Drew You're walking through a store and said, look at these.

1:26:14 Adam You went to the sex store for these?

1:26:15 Caller Yes, we did.

1:26:16 Adam Okay. And you came home, and did you just go straight to the booty?

1:26:20 Caller Exactly. And we didn't, I didn't know really what to do with them. I'd never done it before.

1:26:24 And so we just kind of put them all in there.

1:26:26 And then when we took them out, one didn't come out.

1:26:29 Adam When we took them out. And on a scale of one to ten. How good did it feel?

1:26:36 About a seven and a half.

1:26:38 Cindy Margolis Oh, that's pretty high.

1:26:40 Adam I know what Drew's doing tomorrow.

1:26:41 It was definitely worth it.

1:26:43 Caller But but now I'm a little scared because I don't know.

1:26:46 What's going to happen now?

1:26:47 Adam Well, go drink some prune juice and check the toilet.

1:26:51 Caller OK.

1:26:52 All right. It's definitely going to come out.

1:26:54 Drew Well, it should. I can't say definitely, but I suspect it will.

1:26:57 Caller And what happens if it doesn't?

1:26:59 Caller It's going to stay there?

1:27:00 Drew No, it has to be retrieved.

1:27:02 Caller Oh.

1:27:03 Drew That's a lovely thing.

1:27:04 Caller And what are the chances that it will have to do that?

1:27:06 Drew I would think unlikely.

1:27:08 Caller OK.

1:27:09 Drew OK.

1:27:09 Caller All right. Have fun.

1:27:10 Adam Good luck.

1:27:11 Caller Thank you.

1:27:11 Drew Having abdominal pain, you got to have the retrieval.

1:27:14 Adam Abdominal pain, get retrieval. You ever see the Seinfeld when George's dad sits on Fusilli Jerry?

1:27:19 Drew Right.

1:27:19 Adam Kramer made all the characters at a Fusilli. Million to one, Doc. I am the ass man.

1:27:23 Cindy Margolis Right, the ass man.

1:27:24 Adam Exactly. He brings the dads in and gets it removed. Where are we going? Let's talk to Daniel, who's 15.

1:27:30 Caller Hi.

1:27:31 Adam Hi.

1:27:32 Caller Uh, well, I kind of walked in on my parents, but not really.

1:27:38 Drew What do you mean?

1:27:40 Caller Well, it was just a little while ago, and I was like, well, it was really weird because like my dad wants everything off at 10. Like he could himself like he wants all the lights off.

1:27:53 Drew Like nothing.

1:27:54 Cindy Margolis Oh, go ahead.

1:27:55 Caller Go ahead. He wants like all our lights off, like like all my siblings. He wants us all in bed by 10. So like I was like in the bathroom upstairs and the door to his room in the bathroom, they're like right next to each other. And and I walked out of the bathroom and I saw my dad's door open. So I walked in and my mom was like naked like on the bed. And my dad was like calling my siblings upstairs.

1:28:22 Drew So they were getting ready.

1:28:24 Caller Yeah.

1:28:24 Drew Okay. Well, that's kind of freaky.

1:28:26 Caller Like when I when I walked in, my dad like kind of he yelled my name out. And I kind of like turned around with a cake and my mom like covered up and like it was like nothing happened. But I don't know it was really weird.

1:28:40 Adam So what do you want to know if you're going to be okay in the next couple of years because of this?

1:28:43 Drew Like, well, yeah, but this will sort of slow your pace down a little bit in your bathroom.

1:28:52 Adam Right.

1:28:52 Drew And that's fine. And you're 15, you're a big guy. Look, you'll survive this one. This isn't going to affect you permanently in any way whatsoever.

1:28:59 Adam Good. Andrea, you're 23 on Loveline. Andrea.

1:29:04 Caller Hi. Hi.

1:29:05 I'm sorry. I was just wondering if you could possibly tell me the long term effects of ecstasy. And I'm worried about a friend of mine. He's been doing it occasionally. It's like maybe once every six months or something.

1:29:17 Drew Yeah.

1:29:18 Nothing too major, but I'm still, I'm really concerned for him.

1:29:21 Drew It's very hard to predict how much over what period of time it takes for somebody to have any significant effects.

1:29:28 Okay.

1:29:29 Drew But mood disturbances, panic attacks, various kinds of paranoia as I've seen. Usually the paranoia is resolved though. And the main significant issue is mood disturbances. And sometimes those mood problems don't come on for many, many years after the use.

1:29:42 Caller After the use.

1:29:44 And mood disturbances as in like depression. Depression.

1:29:46 Drew Depression.

1:29:47 Caller Okay.

1:29:47 That's what we thought.

1:29:48 Caller And then also he does hallucinogenic mushrooms as well. I mean I know they're both bad but is one better than the other because I don't see him stop a few times a day.

1:29:57 Drew Well, in my clinical experience I've seen lots of problems with ecstasy. I've not seen any serious problems from mushrooms but I expect to.

1:30:03 Caller But is there not a long history of research or anything?

1:30:07 Drew Well, people don't do that much mushroom.

1:30:09 Caller Okay.

1:30:09 Drew It's tough on your system.

1:30:10 Adam Once Jerry Garcia died, so did the mushrooms.

1:30:12 Drew Well, it's also hard to eat cow, stuff that grows in cow poo isn't too appealing to people.

1:30:17 Adam One of the bad side effects by the way of ecstasy is calling another girl while having sex.

1:30:21 Cindy Margolis Yes, which we learned earlier.

1:30:22 Adam Which can destroy everything. John? John?

1:30:27 Cindy Margolis John?

1:30:28 Adam You're 18. What's up?

1:30:30 Caller Yes. Well, my first question is when I tried to have sex with my girlfriend, I couldn't get an erection. Is that normal?

1:30:37 Adam Yes, very normal. Nobody has erections when you have sex.

1:30:40 Caller John?

1:30:40 Drew But actually, it's remarkably common for men their first time out.

1:30:44 Caller Exactly.

1:30:44 Adam Why was this first time ever having sex?

1:30:47 Caller Right. I try. But you know, I mean, I do get erections and everything, but at that moment, I just couldn't, you know.

1:30:52 Drew You're nervous, John. When you're anxious.

1:30:54 Caller Yeah. I think it's just psychological.

1:30:55 Drew You guys don't work when they're nervous.

1:30:57 Caller Oh, okay. So it has happened to a lot of other men, right?

1:31:01 Drew Essentially, it's very common for essentially almost all men experience it at some time or another.

1:31:07 Caller Right.

1:31:07 Adam I'm locking on wood, not this guy.

1:31:10 Drew But something, something, you know.

1:31:11 Cindy Margolis Liar.

1:31:12 Adam No, I'm serious. I'm drinking a fifth of vodka. Dare me to drive? No, I didn't have one then either.

1:31:18 Caller Okay. I was just wondering about that.

1:31:20 Adam That's it?

1:31:20 Caller Yeah. Thank you.

1:31:21 Drew You're fine. Don't worry about it next time. If you worry too much about it happening again, it will happen again.

1:31:26 Adam Yep, exactly. Think about it, you're done.

1:31:28 Cindy Margolis Oh, now it's for sure going to happen for a guy.

1:31:30 Adam I'm going to give you guys an update about me because we're talking about this just in case I get lucky tonight, which is slimming none. We'll see what happens. Sarah?

1:31:37 Hello.

1:31:37 Adam Hi, you're 20.

1:31:38 Caller Hello. I sort of, I feel like I'm being a very bad girl. I'm dating a married man.

1:31:45 Cindy Margolis Yes, you are being a bad girl.

1:31:48 Adam He's being a bad boy though.

1:31:49 Cindy Margolis Yes, exactly. It takes two.

1:31:52 Caller Well, am I being selfish or should I let it go or should I stay?

1:31:57 Drew Well, is he giving you the usual BS that his wife's a pain and she's awful to him and he's gonna leave her?

1:32:03 Cindy Margolis He's gonna leave her in six months.

1:32:04 Drew Yeah, just right now we can't because of the kids and my job.

1:32:08 Caller Well, he does have three kids.

1:32:10 Adam Other than the sex, what is good about this, Sarah?

1:32:13 Caller Well, there is no sex.

1:32:14 Adam Oh.

1:32:15 Cindy Margolis Oh, then what is good?

1:32:17 Adam Is he rich?

1:32:19 Caller I don't know. I don't exactly know. We, it's a lot of intellectual conversations and we just click.

1:32:26 Drew Maybe you're just friends.

1:32:27 Caller We completely click.

1:32:28 Caller Well, it's, we're very attracted to each other, completely.

1:32:33 Drew And again, he's giving those usual lines about his wife mistreating him and he's going to leave her and all that stuff.

1:32:37 Caller No, he loves his wife. She did give him the ring back the other day because he, you know, came clean with her.

1:32:44 Drew About?

1:32:45 Caller About him having feelings for me.

1:32:48 Caller Oh.

1:32:50 Caller So, you know, with there being kids, I don't know if I should just let it go and give him time to figure out what he wants to do. I definitely don't want to hurt anybody's feelings.

1:33:03 Drew Well, you're hurting the kids, although.

1:33:04 Caller Definitely.

1:33:05 Adam How old is this guy?

1:33:06 Caller 28.

1:33:07 Adam And you're 20. You're only 20. There's, you know what, I would just, if it were me, I would forget it right now. Sarah, it's tough. I know you have this mental click with this guy.

1:33:20 Cindy Margolis Walk away.

1:33:20 Adam You haven't even slept with them yet, but just walk away. You're only 20. Forget it. He's got kids. He's got to deal with that. And you know what? If he decided to hang out with you, just think of all the trouble you're going to have with this wife and then dealing with his kids. Forget it.

1:33:33 Cindy Margolis Too much baggage.

1:33:34 Drew And things that seem so perfect when you're 20 that there could never be another more perfect match that looks silly 10 years later.

1:33:40 Cindy Margolis Exactly.

1:33:41 Caller I know that sucks.

1:33:42 Cindy Margolis I know.

1:33:43 Caller I was pretty much married for 5 years, you know, myself. I was with the guy since I was 13 and I just, you know, about a year and a half ago I left him and...

1:33:51 Drew Doesn't that one look silly now?

1:33:53 Caller What?

1:33:53 Drew Doesn't that one look kind of silly now?

1:33:55 Caller Definitely.

1:33:55 Drew Well, we'll wait and see how this one looks in 5 years. It's going to be more than silly.

1:33:58 Cindy Margolis Enjoy being single.

1:34:00 Drew All right, Sarah.

1:34:00 Caller Just let it go.

1:34:01 Cindy Margolis Let it go, girl.

1:34:02 Caller Thank you very much.

1:34:03 Adam Good job. Bye. All right. I guess it's time for a break, yeah? All right. Cindy Margolis is here, Stryker with Dr. Drew, a little more Loveline coming up next.

1:34:12 Stryker Loveline, back in a minute.

1:34:47 Adam All right, we're back, it's Loveline. Stryker here, and Cindy Margolis.

1:34:51 Cindy Margolis Yeah, just the two of us now.

1:34:52 Drew Where is Dr. Drew?

1:34:53 Cindy Margolis He left us alone. What's up with that?

1:34:56 Adam Dr. Drew is probably listening, driving home. I just want to thank him so much for being so cool to me, filling in for Adam. He just made it so easy for me. And for everyone that called in, that was really nice and I'm like, screw you, Stryker, Carolla is so much funnier than you. Everyone was just so cool.

1:35:10 Cindy Margolis Now you did a great job. Give it up for Stryker. No, no, no, no.

1:35:15 Adam So thanks to everyone that called in. That was nice. Adam will be back on Sunday with his antics and we'll find out about his garage and the man show. Ace Rockolla. And Cindy Margolis, your show.

1:35:27 Cindy Margolis Yes, the Cindy Margolis Show.

1:35:28 Caller Catchy title.

1:35:29 Cindy Margolis Saturday Nights. Party Night. Don't you kind of like that title? Catchy name. I had to twist some arms.

1:35:35 Adam Very catchy name.

1:35:35 Cindy Margolis Just lucky I had that name.

1:35:36 Adam The star of that show is Unbeatable. And you're still doing the E! Channel Show?

1:35:42 Cindy Margolis I am and I got a couple prospects tonight. Some great talent out there. Who knew?

1:35:45 Adam Just give us in 20 seconds the gist of that show on E!

1:35:48 Cindy Margolis That show is where I make my cyber buddies dreams come true. So if you're an aspiring singer, model, actor, email me and I'll put you on the show.

1:35:55 Adam It's all good. Alright, hello to everyone in Tucson at KFMA. Hello to K-Rock. Hello to everyone else. Thanks for checking us out for Cindy Margolis and Dr. Drew. I would be Stryker. Saying this time we'll say adios.

1:36:06 Cindy Margolis Adios.

1:36:07 Stryker This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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