Episode 1000754886968

1:02 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.

1:14 Adam Yep, it is the Loveline. Wow, I'm loud. Phone number for Loveline, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, fax number 310-854-4455. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. He's doing a special Loveline from San Diego tonight, home of 91X, a very old affiliate of ours, and we're happy to be here. We did a little speaking engagement at the University of San Diego.

1:41 Drew University of California, San Diego.

1:43 Adam UC San Diego, and now we're out here doing our thing from San Diego. Sisqo is going to be in our Loveline studios tomorrow night. We'll be glad to see Sisqo again. It's been about a year since Sisqo's been there. Good guy and glad to see all the success he's had. And we'll be glad to see him tomorrow night. Drew?

2:03 Drew Yep.

2:03 Adam Oh, good times there, Drew. We're trying to work out Drew's call computer here so we can get to some of these calls for you. Drew, we got that worked out?

2:13 Drew I'm ready. Here we go. Who is this? Onika?

2:19 Adam Onika? Hi, Onika.

2:21 Hi.

2:22 Adam You're 19. What's up?

2:24 Caller I have a problem having sex with my boyfriend.

2:28 When I'm on the bottom, I can't get wet.

2:30 Like, it's dry and it hurts.

2:33 Caller But then when I'm on top, I'm too wet.

2:36 And it's like I could have just dumped a glass of water on us.

2:40 It's that wet.

2:41 And we have to stop and like clean up before we can finish.

2:46 Drew It's just one way you're into it, one way you aren't.

2:49 Yeah.

2:50 Drew That's what it boils down to, right?

2:52 Adam Well, well, maybe it's like her vagina is like a tumbler. And when she sits up, it tips over.

2:57 Drew It pours out.

2:58 Adam Yeah.

2:59 Drew No, I think she's into it one way and she ain't into it the other.

3:02 Adam All right. So you're into it when you're on top.

3:05 But it's like too messy.

3:07 Caller And no, no, it isn't.

3:10 Drew What's about your boyfriend that makes you feel like it's too messy? That's not right.

3:15 No, it's like wolfs will be soaked.

3:18 Adam OK, why don't you try? OK, why don't you try doggy?

3:24 That's that hurts, actually.

3:26 Adam All right. Well, can you get to a position that's somewhere in between him on top and you on top, like you in the middle and him in the middle?

3:35 Caller We haven't found one.

3:36 I wondered if there was anything I could do to make it not so wet or like wetter.

3:41 Adam OK, I got a plan. I got a plan. Why don't you get on top for a few minutes and then hurry up and get on the bottom while the moisture is still there? Yeah?

3:51 Drew That's the idea.

3:52 Adam There you go, Annika. Good times there, baby. Glad we could help. Well, I don't know how to answer this one. I really don't. If doggie... It's good times. Doggy is painful. On top is too wet. On the bottom is too dry. What the hell are we supposed to do? Wheelbarrow.

4:10 Drew There you go.

4:11 Adam All right. Who are we talking to, Drew?

4:12 Drew Damon.

4:13 Adam Damon?

4:14 Caller Yeah?

4:15 Adam You're 13?

4:16 Caller Yeah.

4:17 Adam What's up?

4:18 When I masturbate, I, like, can't ejaculate.

4:22 Adam Yeah?

4:23 Drew You've never been able to?

4:24 Caller No, I've been able to before, and like these past two months, I haven't been able to.

4:29 Drew You on medication?

4:31 Caller No.

4:32 Drew Okay. Well, how many times have you actually ejaculated?

4:36 Caller I don't count.

4:37 Caller I don't count it, really.

4:39 Adam Yeah, start counting. I wish I'd counted.

4:41 Drew Just to keep track? Yeah. Like Daffy Duck kept his feathers, or Foghorn Leghorn kept his feathers numbered for just such an occasion. You number your ejaculations?

4:51 Adam Yeah. Yeah. Why not? Sure. It'd be fun to look back.

4:55 Drew Have a tally.

4:56 Adam Yeah.

4:57 Drew Maybe to document the memorable ones?

4:59 Adam Yeah. Number 11,400,027 was surprisingly good.

5:07 Drew Bold bouquet.

5:08 Adam All right. Hey, Damon?

5:10 Yeah?

5:12 Adam Why do you think this isn't working?

5:15 I don't know. I like MasterBeef like seven minutes, and I'm like worn out. My arm just started to hurt, so I had to stop.

5:22 Adam I see.

5:22 Yeah.

5:23 Adam I'm not going to worry too much about it at 13.

5:26 Drew No, no. It may just be part of your biology. Have you been depressed or sleeping improperly, anything like that?

5:33 Caller No, not really.

5:35 Adam Maybe you need a fresh cache of porn. You're wearing out your old porn?

5:40 Yeah, kind of.

5:42 Adam All right. Maybe you need to turn it over. You do need to turn that over every once in a while. As you know, Drew, I look at my porn as my children.

5:49 Drew Yes.

5:49 Adam They're all precious to me.

5:51 Drew Yes.

5:51 Adam But even I have to admit once in a while I have to turn it over.

5:54 Drew Yes, purge.

5:54 Adam And adopt some new porn. I see. Introduce that into the family. Let me ask you this, Drew. If you start, is it possible to start masturbating at a young age, 12, 13 years old, have an ejaculation, and still have it be too early? Do you know what I'm saying?

6:14 Caller No.

6:15 Adam It's not possible.

6:16 Drew What do you mean? I don't know what that means.

6:17 Adam What I mean is you started at an early age. Maybe it's 12. Maybe you do ejaculate the first 10 times.

6:25 Drew And then it hasn't really taken hold yet.

6:27 Adam But maybe it's still too early, and maybe you're still, then you've got to go another year.

6:31 Drew Or there may be some fluctuations in your biology, right? You may be starting turning on, but not...

6:36 Adam You get a little surge of testosterone because you ate a Taco Bell.

6:39 Drew Yeah, yeah. That makes sense to me.

6:41 Adam Okay. So I'd say that's what's happening with Damon. Where are we going here, Drew?

6:45 Drew Well, I'm hoping Anderson puts these people on hold.

6:48 Adam All right.

6:49 Drew Yeah, Damon. Let me put him on hold. It's Paula.

6:53 Caller Hello?

6:54 Caller Paula?

6:55 Caller Yeah.

6:56 Adam You're 16?

6:57 Caller Yeah.

6:57 Adam What's up?

6:58 Caller I have a little problem. I was having sex with my boyfriend like the other day or whatever, and I just like... We had a stop in the middle because I had some flashbacks, and I had a flashback of my father. I saw my father like right in front of me. It's like so weird because like I don't remember getting molested by him or whatever. So it's like, I don't know.

7:24 Drew You sure it's molestation that you're having a memory of, or maybe you're just thinking of your father in a very intense situation, and maybe you're really not ready to be sexually active. Maybe there's just sort of these emotions that are flying around and making you have these overwhelming feelings.

7:39 Adam Did your father tell you not to have sex?

7:42 Caller No.

7:43 Drew Did you think he did abuse you?

7:46 Caller I don't know, because like my flashbacks are like, because like when I have a flashback, all I remember is him coming in like my room and kissing me good night. And then like later on that day, like later on, he'll come in my room or whatever, and it's like from there, it's like I just go blank.

8:05 Adam Well, where's your dad now?

8:07 Caller He's, he's dead.

8:09 Drew What happened?

8:11 Caller He, he got into a really bad accident from drinking and driving.

8:16 Adam Oh, was he a good guy when he was alive?

8:19 Caller Um, I don't know.

8:21 Adam No?

8:22 Caller I was like maybe five when he died.

8:25 Drew Hmm, you know, you think he might have done something to you, huh?

8:28 Adam What's your mom think?

8:29 Caller I'm not sure.

8:31 Drew Have you brought this up with your mom?

8:33 Caller Well, no, because like my mom, she's also an alcoholic.

8:39 Drew Did you call her here once before?

8:40 Caller No.

8:41 Drew Is your, she sounds exact. I called her a couple nights ago.

8:44 Adam Is your mom, your mom still drinking?

8:47 Caller Yeah, but she says she's going to AA.

8:51 Drew Okay, why don't you go to Smalatine and talk to other people who have been, what?

8:55 Caller I've been trying to, but I've been getting like busy signals and everything.

9:00 Drew Well, your mom's going to AA, right?

9:03 Caller Not yet. She's going to try to, but I doubt it though.

9:07 Drew Well, it's not something you try to do. It's something you do every day at least once a day. And why don't you ask her to take you with her to a meeting that has an Alatine meeting right next door. And while she goes to AA, you can go to Alatine.

9:19 Caller Yeah.

9:20 Drew Okay?

9:20 Caller Yeah.

9:20 Drew There are meetings like that all over the place.

9:22 Adam Just stop by the Churro stand in between the two.

9:24 Drew Just call AA and they can tell you where their combo meeting is right now.

9:28 Caller Do you think I could have gotten molested like whatever when I was young or whatever?

9:32 Drew I think you had an alcoholic dad and that's significant enough and that needs to be dealt with. I think you have an alcoholic mom. That's very significant. That needs to be dealt with. I think your dad may have done some scary stuff while he was loaded. I'm not totally convinced that he sexually abused you, but it's a low priority in terms of dealing with it right now. The high priority is dealing with being a child of an alcoholic and that's what you got to go to work on right now, right?

9:56 Caller Okay.

9:57 Caller All right.

9:58 Adam Good times.

9:59 Caller Okay.

9:59 Caller All right.

10:00 Adam And don't get pregnant, you screwball. Let's talk to...

10:04 Drew Chris.

10:05 Adam Chris.

10:06 Hey, how's it going?

10:06 Adam Chris, you're 27. What's up?

10:09 Caller Well, I had a question.

10:10 First of all, I'm a big fan.

10:12 Adam Thanks.

10:13 I watch the man show all the time.

10:15 Adam Thank you.

10:17 I had a question about my profession. I take breaks. I work in a hospital.

10:24 Drew Your profession?

10:26 I'm sorry?

10:27 Adam Yeah.

10:27 Drew There's a word that makes me shudder when Chris says it.

10:30 Adam He works in a hospital, he takes breaks.

10:33 You know, I visit different sections of the hospital, ICU, DOU.

10:37 Drew What is your profession?

10:38 I'm sorry?

10:39 Drew What is your profession?

10:40 Adam Candy striper.

10:42 Surgical tech. I work in different departments, supply, but I go through various departments. Some of the nurses I'm kind of friendly with. There's so-called contaminant rooms, biohazard rooms.

11:01 Adam What goes on in those rooms? Is that where there's like medical waste and that kind of stuff?

11:05 Caller Right.

11:08 Basically, when a patient is in isolation.

11:13 Drew It's the body fluid.

11:16 Caller All right.

11:16 Adam Listen, Chris, I'm done asking you questions.

11:20 Drew Yeah. So what is your question for us?

11:22 By taking a girl in the room or having any physical bodily contact in the biohazard room, which you have to wear gloves for. I'm sure I don't know what various diseases or anything can happen in the room, but I don't know. Would that be bad for?

11:38 Drew Are you rolling around on the red bags? What are you doing?

11:41 Bumping and grinding or whatever. I mean, is that wrong? I mean, what can you catch in a biohazard room?

11:48 Adam Listen, can't you come back?

11:50 Hospital is kind of like a grapevine. You say something to somebody, everybody knows.

11:55 Adam Well, they have a PA system. Listen, Chris, you have sacks in the middle of the room. Don't lean up against a hefty bag full of bile. You understand? Or fecal matter or stuff that came was drawn from a syringe. This is a ridiculous question.

12:15 Drew Well, I think you're asking, is there anything airborne you can get? Is that right?

12:19 Kind of so.

12:19 Drew I mean, yeah. Are you supposed to wear a mask in that room?

12:24 Basically, gloves for sure. Most definitely. If you don't wear gloves and you get caught, I mean, you're...

12:29 Adam Are you supposed to wear a mask in that room?

12:32 No, not in the ICU.

12:33 Drew You're not likely to get airborne then. The hospital is incumbent upon the hospital to protect its employees. Certainly the nurses would know what kind of debris is in there. So just don't...

12:43 I have a question for you, doctor.

12:45 Drew Now, what, what, what?

12:47 I mean, my dad was a police officer and when I was nine, he was shot and so I've had a lot of animosity towards policemen. Just, you know, and my liking towards women is just extra phenomenal. I can't, I mean, is that some somewhat related to my dad's death and me getting back and trying to like having them as a challenge to.

13:13 Adam Well, wait a minute. Who shot your dad? A hooker?

13:15 No, my another policeman shot my dad. My dad was walking down the street all disgruntled with a stick and the officer pulled him over and said, drop your weapon.

13:25 Drew And so you said your dad was a policeman too?

13:27 Yeah. And he thought my dad had a weapon with a stick. It was a long story. He was playing soccer, knee, all that crap. But anyway, my dad turned around and he shot him and dropped him. And he went up and saw his badge and they flew a helicopter. It was too late. But if that has anything to do with that, there's a lot more to this.

13:45 Drew A lot more to this story. Yeah. All right. Hey, Chris, here's the deal. Your dad, your dad was kind of physical with you, right?

13:52 Caller No, not at all. He coached my soccer teams and all that good stuff.

13:55 Drew He was never rough with you at all?

13:57 Adam No, never.

13:57 Caller I idol him. I mean, I'd give anything to have him back.

14:02 Adam Chris, did you do a lot of drugs? A little.

14:07 Caller I played varsity soccer and all that stuff, but I never got really much into the hardcore drugs.

14:11 Adam Get back to the soccer. Yeah. Listen, most people who play soccer are drunk, and drug addicts, and high. What do you keep going back to the soccer for? Okay, listen, Anderson, put Chris on hold. What the hell do you want Chris to do? Because he's having trouble tracking. He's having trouble having a conversation with you.

14:34 Drew He's having trouble tracking. He's probably a marijuana addict. He's certainly sexual compulsive, maybe a sexual addict. I was trying to get at what caused him to be sexually compulsive or addicted. If indeed he is a compulsive and or dependent on anything, how about dealing with that? Yes, he had a serious trauma, but why did that trigger or unleash this drive that he's got now to seek sex and that's an addict thing. When people get a trauma plus that biology boy, it really gets going.

14:59 Adam The cop shot your dad. That doesn't mean he hate women.

15:03 Drew No, somehow it was something he saw it as going very bizarre. But the point is he's sexual compulsive and it's a way of managing one's affect. People, addicts use thrill, use sex, use drugs as a way of feeling okay. And if you feel bad, you've been feeling all empty and awful ever since your dad died, you're idle. I mean that's an awful thing. This is not the way to deal with it. You need to deal with it more directly. And really coming to terms with and mourning the loss of your dad is probably what you've never done.

15:29 Adam Don't get a BJ in the bio room. That's just a, you know, that's a Corolla rule. My grandfather sat me down when I was just knee high to a boll weevil.

15:40 Drew Over the borscht.

15:41 Adam Not to get a BJ in the bio room. Sherry?

15:46 Caller Yeah.

15:46 Adam You're 27. What's up?

15:48 Caller Um, well, I really just had a question. I just found out last night that I was pregnant. And not even two weeks ago, I was in a car accident. And I didn't know I was pregnant. I had a lot of x-rays done. And I'm just wondering what kind of effect that that would have.

16:04 Adam What an x-ray. Listen, I'm not a doctor, but I would assume it would give them superhuman strength. Wouldn't it, Drew?

16:11 Drew No, it turns them into giants.

16:12 Adam Oh, giants.

16:13 Drew Yes.

16:13 Yes. Into what?

16:16 Drew Nothing, Sherry. How pregnant are you now?

16:20 Probably not more than three and a half weeks.

16:21 Caller Four weeks.

16:22 Drew So you would have been, when you had the x-rays, you were one week pregnant.

16:25 Caller Yeah, maybe.

16:25 Maybe two.

16:26 Drew Maybe two. And what were the x-rays you had?

16:30 Caller On my chest, my back, my hip, and my shoulder.

16:34 Adam Well, all the good parts.

16:35 Drew Yeah. Well, so it certainly gets across your pelvis there. And yeah, of course it can cause damage, people. You don't want to expose x-ray to a developing embryo. That's not a good thing. Does it have to mean disaster? No, it doesn't. But there's really nothing can be done now. And if it really were a disaster, wouldn't you think you'd hear more about that kind of thing leading to significant problems? You know, not something typically does.

16:57 Adam No. And put it this way, if it was a death sentence or your child was going to come out retarded or something, don't you think they'd talk to you about it before they x-rayed that area?

17:10 Drew No, they didn't know she was pregnant.

17:11 Adam I know, but they would ask you.

17:14 Drew Oh yeah, she said no.

17:16 Caller I didn't know.

17:17 Adam Okay, bad times.

17:18 Drew But again, if it's a significant hit, usually the pregnancy terminates spontaneously. You have a miscarriage, okay?

17:30 Adam All right, but who should she talk to?

17:32 Drew Talk to her obstetrician. There's nothing to be done. Really, it's over. It's happened. Whatever happened, happened.

17:36 Caller How would I know if it did cause any damage?

17:39 Drew You'll probably have a miscarriage.

17:41 Caller I would have a miscarriage, I would have to, I mean.

17:43 Drew You'd probably have a miscarriage, but obviously, the potential of other things going wrong is highly unpredictable.

17:49 Caller I mean, I don't know, it just seems weird that I didn't know I was pregnant, so.

17:54 Adam No, listen, Sherry, Sherry, first off, my new policy is I only say someone's name 26 times before I hang up on them. Number two, tell that buffoon in the background to shut his pie hole. Is this the father of this child?

18:13 Caller Yeah.

18:14 Adam Oh, what's this guy do? What's he do for a living?

18:20 Caller Right now, nothing.

18:22 Drew No surprise.

18:24 Adam Let's hope there's a spontaneous abortion here. Please. Is this guy, you married to him?

18:32 Caller No, we're engaged.

18:35 Adam Is he an alcoholic?

18:37 Caller No.

18:38 Adam Out of work construction worker? What's he do?

18:43 He does casino work, actually.

18:45 Adam Alright, I don't trust this guy. You make sure he's a good dad to your new born, alright?

18:52 Caller Yeah, we have another child together.

18:55 Caller Oh boy.

18:56 Adam How's he doing with that kid?

18:58 Caller Oh good, real good.

19:00 Drew Now, what were you saying? What seems weird to you now?

19:02 Caller Well, it just seems strange to me that I got into a car accident and nothing happened.

19:08 Caller What do you mean?

19:10 Caller I got really bad.

19:12 Caller I would have assumed that I would have had a miscarriage then.

19:15 Drew Listen, Sherry, that baby wasn't even implanted yet. It's still floating in your fallopian tubes. Don't be ridiculous. It's not like there was a baby.

19:26 Adam Listen, there's no answer to this question. You just have to stay with it. Write it out.

19:30 Drew Yeah, I mean, somebody, perhaps someone will suggest you have an abortion. I don't know. That's going to be, you know, that'll be up to the treating people.

19:38 Adam The treating people?

19:40 Drew Whoever treats her.

19:40 Adam All right. Who's this?

19:43 Drew Hello.

19:44 Adam Does that say anonymous?

19:45 Drew That's what it says.

19:46 Adam Hey, who's doing the phone screening over there tonight?

19:49 Drew Sir.

19:50 Adam Oh, OK. Don't write anonymous. If OK.

19:55 Drew Hello. When when when I'm holding came back, they erased the name.

19:58 Caller Ah.

19:59 Drew So what's going on? Hello.

20:03 Caller Hello.

20:04 Drew What can we do for you?

20:05 Me.

20:07 Adam OK. Listen, Anderson, hang up on this person. Or put them on hold. Thank you. Chris. Yes. You're 20. What's up?

20:19 Caller OK. The erection problems, buddy. To start off, I was in a relationship for about a year and a half with my girlfriend. And any time I wanted to get aroused, there was no problem.

20:31 I can do it any time.

20:33 Caller But now I'm trying, you know, starting fresh.

20:36 Caller The relationship ended.

20:37 I'm starting out fresh.

20:38 Caller And every time I'm with a girl, I just can't get aroused whatsoever.

20:42 Drew You can't get aroused or you're anxious and sort of overwhelmed by everything.

20:46 Caller And I don't know if it's nervousness or.

20:48 Drew Yeah.

20:49 Caller It used to be that way before. I was in the relationship. I would start making out or and I get aroused once. And then once it went down, it would stay down. And I couldn't get it back up to perform.

21:02 Drew Yeah. You were never able to have sex.

21:04 Caller Oh, yeah. I just have sex, you know, three times a day with my girlfriend. But now that I'm with new girls.

21:10 Drew How long does this last for this new girl syndrome?

21:17 Caller It's happened now the relationship for about six months.

21:22 Drew All right.

21:23 Adam No.

21:23 Drew Listen, how long?

21:24 Adam I don't care. I know that when you lose your erection, you cannot feel your penis anymore.

21:30 Drew Right.

21:30 Adam You have the anti erection.

21:33 Drew Right.

21:33 Adam You're not even flaccid.

21:35 Drew You have someone else's penis.

21:36 Adam You should wish, yes, that your penis is, yes, you have someone else's penis and you just pray he gets an erection because it's not yours.

21:45 Drew Attached to someone else's penis.

21:46 Adam And it becomes smaller than it's ever been. It's weird. It's like it doesn't even hang. Meaning if your penis right now, it retracts. Right now, if you just want in the bathroom, you could probably get yourself a little wood going in about a minute. No problem. But if you had the anti-erection, you couldn't do it with a Hoover and a tub of lard.

22:07 Drew Couldn't find my penis.

22:09 Adam No, it's in you. It'd be hiding in you. I'd have to punch you in the stomach in order to get your penis out.

22:14 Drew Didn't we talk about that once? How it turns into just a little...

22:17 Yeah.

22:18 Adam Yeah, that's bad times, Chris.

22:20 Drew But listen, don't you then continue a relationship with that person and eventually kind of work it out?

22:24 Caller Well, it's not just with that one person. It's with no matter what girl I try it with.

22:29 Drew Yeah, but how about having a relationship with someone and kind of working it out, letting this anxiety settle down?

22:34 Caller Yeah, that's what I'm kind of asking. It's like the first time, it's always like that. But once I get to know the person, then I can perform better.

22:41 Drew Chris, Chris, I'm asking you once, and then we're going to hang up if you don't answer this. How long does it take before things go back to normal?

22:50 Caller With the same girl I'll be with her probably a matter of weeks.

22:55 Drew And then things are okay again?

22:56 Adam Right. All right.

22:58 Drew You need to have a relationship then. Your body is telling you something.

23:01 Adam Sentimental penis. That's all. That was a Bob Welch show. Oh, really? Mid-70s. Sentimental penis. Yeah. All right. We're going to take ourselves a little break. It is Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew coming from San Diego tonight. When we come back and speak to Sid, he's a fetish of watching guys getting hit in the nards. He wants to know if that's normal. I'm going to go on a limb and say no, but we'll get to it after this.

23:49 Caller This is the show known as Loveline, with your hosts, Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

23:58 Adam Hit, Loveline, I'm Adam Carolla. That's my good buddy over there, Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Sisqo in studio tomorrow night. And let's hop back on the phones, Drew, and speak to Sid. Sid is 18, he's got that fetish for guys getting kicked in the nuts. Sid?

24:21 Drew When did you first discover this?

24:23 Caller And how?

24:26 Adam I only was riding his bike.

24:28 Caller No, I guess for as long as I remember, like I can remember being 5 and trying to coax one of my friends into doing it.

24:39 Drew Oh my god.

24:40 Adam But now, is that a sexual fetish or is that just something that's good for a laugh?

24:47 Caller I would say sexual, sexual.

24:50 Adam Oh yes, and he's full of crap.

24:51 Caller Yeah. No, I'm serious. I'm not. Hello.

24:56 What happened?

24:57 Adam What did he do? Hang up?

24:59 Drew Yeah, it seemed like it.

25:00 Caller All right.

25:01 Adam He was starting to run into that Adam Sandler voice. That's why I didn't believe him.

25:05 Drew That's Leon.

25:07 Yeah.

25:08 Adam Leon, you're 30. What's up?

25:09 Caller Hey, yeah. How you guys doing? Good. I'm calling from San Diego. And of course, the big news down here has been the shooting. And I got to thinking about it. And I got to think about how you guys are always saying, like, how bad parenting leads to bad kids.

25:24 Adam Oh, yes.

25:25 Caller I was wondering if deep thought, but maybe it would be a good idea if like for every crime that's committed by a teenager or a kid, the parent should also be held just as accountable. Like what I mean is-

25:36 Drew We've said that it's something like that for years.

25:38 Caller Or a penalty is imposed on that minor and the same penalty should be imposed on the parent.

25:46 Adam Yeah. Well, Leon, I think we know how you feel about it. We feel the same way. We absolutely do. I liken your child to a dog. You own a dog. You let that dog run free. That dog bites somebody. You're in trouble.

26:04 Caller Yeah. Yeah, there you go.

26:06 Adam It is the exact same thing.

26:07 Drew Or at least it would be incumbent on the parents to show that they did everything responsible to try to treat or manage this kid's behavior.

26:14 Adam But I've seen it a thousand times where you just see the single mother and she's got five kids and she's like, I can't do anything to stop this kid. He's all over the place. What am I supposed to do? It's like, here's what you're supposed to do. Have him arrested. Whatever it is, do what you would do with that dog. If you can't keep that goddamn dog in your yard and stop him from getting out and biting the neighbors, then you put him down. Or you send him away to some camp or some farm that your uncle has or you call somebody. But you do something, you act like... Here's what I want parents to think. If you've got a 13 year old, a 14 year old, a 15 year old who's out of control, who's running wild, who's constantly getting into trouble, I want you to fear that the cops are going to show up and take you.

27:01 Drew That's right. They should.

27:02 Adam And if you have that fear, I guarantee you'll do something about that kid. Because there's no way you're going to be laying around not knowing where he is, thinking the cops are going to show up for you in a few minutes. I'd love to make parents responsible for that. Hey, nature or nurture, it's their fault. Any way you want to slice it. All right, where are we at here, Drew? Amber?

27:24 Caller Yeah?

27:25 Adam You're 15? What's up?

27:27 Caller Um, well, first of all, Adam, you really kick ass.

27:31 Caller I have your name written on my shoe and everything.

27:33 Caller Ooh, the shoe is cool. Yeah.

27:34 Caller Dr. Drew, you're cool, too.

27:36 Adam Yeah, but not on the shoe. Not shoe cool, right?

27:39 Caller No, just you.

27:40 Drew Oh, devastated.

27:41 Caller Yeah.

27:42 Adam Yeah, you know you've arrived when you're written on a young girl's shoe. Thank you, Amber.

27:48 Caller Go ahead.

27:49 Caller All right.

27:49 Caller Well, when I get like around guys, like I start going out with guys and like even if they're like just like holding hands with me or for making out or something, I get I feel like they're suffocating and I have to get away from them. And I start like avoiding them and stuff. And then I just end up dumping them. I do this with every guy.

28:06 Drew Do you want to is that I'm not ask this. Do you wish you could hang in with them and can't or do you really feel uncomfortable and just want to get away?

28:15 Caller I like I want because I really like them and like at first it's OK. But then like after just a little while, I just all of a sudden feel like I have to get away.

28:24 Caller Like, you know, just like they're like any idea.

28:26 Adam I answered that one.

28:27 Drew Any idea why being close to somebody would make you feel so uncomfortable?

28:31 Caller I have no idea. It's just so weird.

28:34 Drew And like anywhere that close, close relationships have been unpleasant for you.

28:40 Caller No, I just I have like never had any real problems or anything.

28:44 Drew And have you ever lost anybody close to you?

28:46 Caller No.

28:47 Adam Where's dad?

28:49 Caller Um, about 20 miles away.

28:51 Caller I still talk to him. He's a jerk.

28:53 Adam Okay.

28:54 Drew Well, that's how you lost a dad.

28:57 Adam Listen, it's very sad that we've gotten to this point as a country where dad is sort of if dad hangs around, it's gravy. But if he ain't around, it's sort of expected. You know what I'm saying?

29:09 Drew Yeah.

29:10 Adam That is ridiculous. Your dad abandoned you, right?

29:15 Caller Well, they got divorced and I just don't talk to him because I get in fights with him all the time. He's a real jerk to me.

29:20 Drew He abandoned you. He's an idiot. He's gone. He's an alcoholic or addict.

29:24 Caller Um, yeah.

29:26 Drew Okay. Um, come on.

29:27 Caller All right.

29:27 Drew There's no wonder relationships are unpleasant prospects for you. The only one you've been close with, the only model for a close relationship has been a disaster.

29:37 Caller So is that like why I can't stand being around guys and stuff?

29:40 Drew Yes. Not until you find a real idiot, then you're going to want to be around him.

29:45 Well, it's a way I can stop it.

29:46 Caller Right.

29:48 Caller Is a way I can stop it?

29:49 Drew Yes. You can go to Al-Anon, you can get a sponsor, you can work the steps, you can get a therapist. And yes, what's going on in your head will change and you will change who you're attracted to and interestingly who is attracted to you.

30:04 Adam Right. In the meantime, don't get pregnant. Lena?

30:08 Caller Yes?

30:09 Adam You're 19?

30:10 Caller Yes, I am.

30:11 Adam What's up?

30:13 Caller Um, I keep having these dreams of having sex with women. But the thing is that I'm not attracted to women. I don't like women at all in that sort of manner. And it's freaking me out because like these dreams are intense, you know, like heavy, you know, like, Slow down, slow down, slow down. and stuff. And I just keep having these dreams. And it's just like crazy because I'm not attracted to women in any way like that, sexually, Are you done, Adam?

30:52 or romantically.

30:54 Adam Oh, all right, next call. Let's get a call about sports or something. Come on, why do you talk about sex all the time? I find some dude talk a little sports in San Diego. I think chargers think about trading leaf. What do you say? Take some sports calls.

31:09 Drew Lena, Lena, you know who you are. You know how you feel about women. You're having dreams. Big deal. Why do they have to disturb you so much?

31:17 Caller But but I don't understand it.

31:19 Adam I mean, you know, okay, let me ask you some questions. These aren't nightmares, though. Do you enjoy these encounters in your dreams?

31:28 Drew At least in the dream.

31:29 Caller In the dream, yeah. But like when I wake up, it's like, why am I having dreams of girls?

31:36 Adam Well, maybe your subconscious is telling you a little something.

31:40 Drew Or maybe it means something else.

31:41 Adam I think she protested a little too much when she declared her heterosexuality. You know what I'm saying, girl?

31:48 Drew I don't see if she's had any premature activity with other girls.

31:51 Adam Yeah.

31:52 Drew Have you ever had a sexual encounter with a woman?

31:54 Caller No, there's never been.

31:57 Drew Never?

31:57 Caller Never.

31:58 Drew Not even as a girl or anything?

32:00 Caller No, never.

32:02 Adam Your parents are religious?

32:04 Caller Um, yeah, actually, yeah, my parents are very religious.

32:08 Drew Why did you go down that path? Why?

32:10 Caller Because, you know, they don't like believing in computers and stuff like that. They don't believe in stuff like that and technology.

32:18 Adam What are they? Shakers? Quakers?

32:22 Drew By the way, what does it mean you don't believe in computers? I reject the existence of this computer we're using right now. I don't believe it exists.

32:29 Adam No, they're like Amish, right?

32:32 Caller No, they're not Amish.

32:34 Adam Does your mom make her own butter?

32:38 Caller No.

32:38 Drew Does your dad name Hezekiah?

32:40 Caller No.

32:41 Adam Does he have a beard with no mustache?

32:43 Caller No, I don't have a father.

32:45 Adam On weekends, does he let you borrow the cart?

32:48 Caller No.

32:49 Drew And the horse?

32:50 Caller Right.

32:51 Adam Well, what do you mean? I mean, like, what's your dad do for a living?

32:57 Caller I don't have a dad. I don't have a father.

33:01 Drew So, understandably...

33:02 Adam Wait a minute. I thought your parents were very religious.

33:04 Caller Well, I have a stepdad, but I don't consider him my father because I think if you... If someone was your father, show you loving, you know, be loving towards you and not abusive or stuff like that.

33:18 Drew Who's abusive?

33:20 Caller Well, my stepfather, he used to abuse me.

33:24 Caller In what way?

33:25 Caller In what way? Physically, not being sexually or anything like that.

33:30 Drew All right. So it makes sense you'd have some weird feelings about men. Maybe you ever had sex with a male?

33:36 Caller Yes, I have.

33:37 Drew How was that?

33:39 Caller It's pretty great, actually. But the thing is, I've really, I've had seven sexual partners, but I've never really had an orgasm with any of them.

33:50 Caller Mm-hmm.

33:53 Adam All right.

33:54 Caller It's kind of crazy.

33:55 Adam All right. Are you living with your screwed up stepdad now?

33:59 Caller No, actually, no. He, my mom kicked him out.

34:04 Adam Okay.

34:05 Caller Like, yesterday.

34:06 Caller So.

34:07 Adam And your real dad, he's dead or gone?

34:10 Caller I don't know anything about my real dad. The last time I tried to get ahold of him, his brother kind of hesitated to tell me how he was doing, so I kind of figured maybe he died or something.

34:21 Caller Oh, okay.

34:22 Caller So.

34:23 Adam All right. Hey, Lena.

34:25 Caller Yes.

34:26 Adam You got some sorting out to do in life. You got your head filled with a bunch of crap. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I do. It's like a garage full of junk. You got the weird religion. You got dad disappearing. You got the abusive stepdad. Many things to think about. More, more to think about than the dreams of women.

34:46 Drew Yeah. The dreams are just symptomatic of how confused the garage is, right?

34:51 Caller That's good.

34:52 Adam All right. The reason I brought up the religion is because she seemed like she was almost gravitating toward women a little when her defenses were shut down. When she let her mind run wild, you know, these people, they get drunk and they get on a woman or they get drunk and they start sort of living the life or saying the things or doing a sort of, they become uninhibited.

35:18 Drew Yeah.

35:19 Adam And some of their true nature sometimes shows through. But then under the sobering light of day, there's all that religion and everything. She sounds like someone who was beaten down a little by religion.

35:31 Drew Sure.

35:32 Adam And so doesn't dare have these thoughts on a conscious level. May have some feeling somewhere and then freaks out when she sees them.

35:39 Drew But then, of course, their feelings about men must be weird, too. Right.

35:43 Adam Okay. So every all bets are off. You got to get some therapy, some counseling, work, sorting stuff out. We're going to take ourselves a little break. What do you say there, Drew?

35:52 Drew Sounds good.

35:52 Adam Who are we going to talk to when we come back? Macy?

35:57 Drew Yeah.

35:57 Adam Yeah. Macy is 20, has been with boyfriend for three years, doesn't enjoy sex at all. Let's see if there's any suggestions. Well, we got some after this. Hey, Loveline, I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Sisqo in the studio tomorrow night. The thong song Sisqo. He's talking to Drew about these slip-on shoes. He got himself some, you know, these slip-on shoes. It's all, they're all the rage now.

36:59 Drew My partner from my daytime job, the men are from Mars, women are from Venus, probably these shoes.

37:04 Adam Right. I'm sure he didn't buy them, I'm sure.

37:06 Drew He bought them. Really?

37:07 Adam He went out and bought them.

37:08 Drew Yeah. All right.

37:09 Adam Well, I stand corrected. The point is, is the sort of slip-on all-terrain tennis shoes are all the rage now. I've seen everyone has them now, especially in like the last four to six months.

37:19 Drew Yeah.

37:21 Adam I've been wearing these things for a few years, and now everyone's wearing the ones I bought two years ago. And here's the real sad part. I feel compelled to defend my feet by explaining to people that I'd been on this two years ago, and then I realized what a dick I sound like. You know what I mean?

37:38 Drew Right.

37:38 Adam You know that guy who has to explain to everybody? Oh, no, no, no, no. You got on to REM like eight years ago, but I was on REM before they came out with their first album.

37:50 Drew Right. The implication is it belongs to me.

37:52 Adam Yeah.

37:52 Drew They're my band.

37:52 Adam I was into them. They used to play in my friend's garage, and I'd be over there in my slip-on shoes, my slip-on all-terrain shoes, because I was the first dude who was smart enough. No. It means you're sort of a Nostradamus, too. Like, you know what trends are coming, and you were smart. And you're no... What it is, too, is you're no poser. You didn't jump... You didn't see... You didn't see Charlie Sheen wearing a pair of these when he did an interview on Leno. You were doing this years ago.

38:24 Drew The original.

38:25 Adam So I now feel compelled to tell everyone I was wearing these goddamn slip-on shoes two years ago, but then I have to stop myself. But I think I just did it just now, didn't I?

38:34 Drew You sure did.

38:34 Adam Alright, alright. Touche. But I slid it in.

38:37 Drew Yeah, you made us think like you.

38:38 Adam Sounded like what a comedy routine.

38:40 Drew Right.

38:40 Adam But yet I got my message across.

38:42 Drew That's right.

38:42 Adam That's the beauty of me. Alright, should we speak to Macy? Macy's 20.

38:48 Caller Hey.

38:48 Adam Macy?

38:49 Caller Hey.

38:49 Adam Yeah.

38:50 Caller What's going on?

38:51 Adam What's up, baby?

38:53 Caller Um, yeah, I just... I seriously, like, do not enjoy sex whatsoever.

38:59 Adam You know, I started wearing these slip-on shoes in 1984.

39:03 Caller Yeah, that's really cool.

39:04 Adam Yeah. Yeah. Pioneer. They ought to name it after me. And...

39:07 Drew Why do you engage in sex if you don't like it?

39:10 Caller Well, because I have a boyfriend and, I mean, he wants to, so...

39:14 Caller Mm-hmm.

39:15 Adam Why is it that you don't want sex with him? What else? What else is wrong in the relationship?

39:20 Caller No, no, no. It's not him. It's, like, I mean...

39:23 Adam Why is it that you don't want sex?

39:25 Caller Because it doesn't feel good.

39:27 Adam I know. But is there anything else going on in the relationship?

39:32 Caller Well, I mean, kind of, I mean, like, the reason that I'm even with him is because, like, he's, like, really supportive of me and, like, he understands, like, when I don't want to have sex. You've got some issues? What? Oh, yeah.

39:46 Drew You've always had some issues with sex?

39:49 Caller Well, I mean, yeah. I mean, I've been, I mean, I've had boyfriends before him and I didn't enjoy it either. And, like, like, two of them broke up with me because, you know, I didn't want to have sex with him, like, every night. And, like, I don't want to go through that again, so, like, I'm kind of staying with him.

40:04 Adam All right. And what, what? OK. I got a couple of feelings. A, I don't think you're really in love with this guy.

40:10 Drew Oh, no, she's with him merely because he doesn't bug her about sex. That's the reason she's with him.

40:17 Adam This is a match made in heaven. He's impotent. You're indifferent. That's great.

40:24 Caller But seriously, I mean, I don't want to go through, like, because I like guys.

40:27 Caller I mean, I totally love going out with these guys.

40:30 Adam Why, why wouldn't you want to have sex frequently with a man you were in love with?

40:36 Caller Because it doesn't feel good. I mean, it just, like, doesn't do anything for me.

40:40 Adam Right. Well, what happened? Were you ever victimized?

40:42 Caller No, never.

40:44 Adam Nothing ever happened to you?

40:45 Caller Never.

40:46 Adam No trauma?

40:47 Caller Nope.

40:47 Drew You want a medication?

40:49 No.

40:51 Adam Is your vagina hooked up? Sometimes they don't hook them up. They're just like a TiVo. Like my TiVo, they just sit there.

40:57 Drew Have you ever been in love?

41:01 Caller Um, probably not.

41:03 Drew Why don't you focus on...

41:04 Adam I'm going to get to the bottom of this. Where's your dad?

41:07 In San Francisco.

41:09 Caller Yeah.

41:09 Adam How do you get along with him?

41:11 Caller Oh, great. I just, I lived with him for the last, like, two years.

41:14 Caller All right.

41:14 Adam He's a good guy?

41:15 Caller Oh, yeah.

41:16 Drew Why did he leave in the first place?

41:18 Caller Him and my mom just fell out of love.

41:20 Adam How do you get along with your mom?

41:21 Caller Great. She's like my best friend.

41:24 Adam Listen, you don't think you're scoring any points around here with that, like, mom's my best friend BS. We can't stand that.

41:31 Caller No, I have great parents. I love them both very much.

41:33 Adam Okay. Well, then, you've been with guys you haven't been in love with. It's time to set the bar a little higher.

41:40 Drew By the way, you know...

41:41 Adam Can't you be alone for a few months? Do you have to be with someone all the time?

41:44 Caller Oh, no, no, no. I have been alone for, you know, like periods at a time.

41:49 Adam Ten minutes.

41:50 Drew There's ample evidence, by the way, that divorce can really affect people's capacity for intimacy for a long time after the divorce.

41:57 Caller I know that, like, well, I don't know. I don't think I've been in love early or anything. But, like, my friends go out and, like, have sex with, you know, like guys they go out with for a few weeks or so. And, like, they always talk about it. They're like, oh, my God, it's so great.

42:09 Adam Well, listen, they're building it up a little, rubbing it in your face, too. Maybe you're a lesbian. Think that's it, Drew?

42:17 Caller No. All right.

42:18 Adam Listen, find a guy you're in love with. Don't stay with this guy for three years. Stop wasting his time and your time. You're 20 years old, for Christ's sake. You're not into the dude. Just cut him loose.

42:28 Drew Find a relationship you're really into.

42:30 Adam Angie?

42:31 Drew Yeah?

42:32 Adam You're 25?

42:33 Drew Uh-huh.

42:34 Adam What's up?

42:35 Caller Um, I think I may be sexually compulsive or sexually addicted. And I was wondering where I would go to get help for that.

42:43 Drew Well, there are people that specialize in treatment of that, but just starting with the sexual...

42:47 Adam Now, they also have these tours in the Philippines that'll do... Well, that's if you're just going to continue, right?

42:54 Caller Yeah.

42:55 Drew But SA. There should be SA in a community where you are. And check it out. Call your local AA if you don't know.

43:02 Caller Would they be able to hook me up with SA.?

43:05 Drew Yeah. Are you recovering alcoholic or anything also?

43:08 Caller Um, my father was.

43:10 Drew Yeah. Did he do stuff to you?

43:13 Caller No.

43:14 Drew Were you sexually abused?

43:16 Caller Not that I know of.

43:18 Drew What makes you think you're a sex?

43:20 Caller Huh?

43:21 Drew What makes you think you're a sex addict?

43:23 Just that I.

43:26 Caller I don't. I use it in insignificantly. Like I don't. You know, I don't have to be in love with somebody to have sex with them. Yeah. And like I'm not really committed to any particular person. And, you know, it's more of a I need to feel good about myself sort of thing.

43:45 Drew Yeah. Are you doing it all the time?

43:48 Caller When I can.

43:49 Drew Are you doing destructive situations?

43:52 Caller Not anymore.

43:53 I have though.

43:55 Caller I used to be a drug addict and.

43:59 Drew Didn't I ask you to be an alcoholic? I asked you to be an alcoholic, right?

44:01 Caller Yeah.

44:02 Drew All right. You're an alcoholic. You're not in recovery then, are you?

44:08 Caller I no longer do drugs.

44:10 Drew You're not in recovery. And you've got to get into recovery. You just crossed over to using sex instead of using drugs. Yes. And that will also lead you back to drugs. I guarantee it. So you need to get into some form of recovery. I would say don't even focus on your sexual addiction. Focus on just recovery from drugs and alcohol. And in the process of that recovery process, and where you work with your sponsor, you will see what the emotional source of all this behavior is. All right.

44:37 Adam Meanwhile, you could go to Ace, right?

44:39 Drew Yeah. But she needs specifically. Your drug and alcohol problem is significant. It's active. That's all.

44:45 Adam How do you find Ace in Los Angeles? You know, I could call a place up and go, I'm looking for a say and they go orderly homes. What's happening?

44:56 Drew Marina.

44:57 Yes.

44:58 Drew What's going on?

45:01 Hey, my boyfriend's in prison right now. And good times. I'm sorry.

45:06 Adam Good times.

45:08 Hello.

45:09 Drew Keep going.

45:10 Oh, he's in prison and good times. And he's going to be getting out in about four months. And I'm very attracted right now to an older man at my job.

45:22 Drew How much older?

45:23 He's 42.

45:24 Drew What's your husband? Boyfriend. Boyfriend. What's he in prison for?

45:29 For domestic violence.

45:31 Drew Oh, for God sakes.

45:34 Adam Well, you better stay with him. He's a keeper. This one.

45:39 It just happened once.

45:40 Adam What'd he do?

45:43 He came home drunk one night and decided that he was, he was, someone told him something about me and he came home and he wanted to have sex with me. And I refused because it was at two o'clock in the morning and I had to go to work the next day. And I refused and he decided to beat me. And so I called the cops on him and he's doing some time in there for that.

46:15 Drew So have you had some treatment for being the abuse?

46:18 Caller Um, no.

46:20 No, I haven't.

46:21 Drew Has he been treated for his alcoholism?

46:25 No.

46:25 Drew Okay. Well, so the one thing I can promise you is that things will not have changed when he returns home.

46:30 Adam Well, that prison is really, men really turned themselves around in there, Drew.

46:35 Drew And I can promise you this is going to get worse.

46:37 Adam They come out gentlemen.

46:38 Drew Guaranteed. So unless you do something, Marina, how, why do you expect things to be different? And by the way, by doing something, I don't mean...

46:45 Because it happened just once.

46:48 Drew By doing something, I don't mean shacking up with your friend at work. I mean, changing what's going on emotionally in your life. And if you don't make that change, this is going to go on, guaranteed.

47:00 Adam Hey, goofball, he never... Did this guy have any priors?

47:07 Yeah.

47:08 Caller Yeah.

47:09 Adam What were his priors?

47:10 He has...

47:12 Adam Yeah, he's beaten other women, right?...

47:14 history of... Not with women. No. He has a history of violence. He's gone to anger management. Yeah.

47:24 Drew He's an alcoholic. They're missing the point here. He's an alcoholic.

47:27 Yeah. Okay.

47:29 Adam Listen, champ. What's your plan here?

47:32 I don't know.

47:33 Adam Just wait till he kills you? Do you have any kids?

47:37 Yes, I do. But they're not... They're not his.

47:42 Adam Yeah. Okay. Even worse. They get beaten by some dude they don't even know.

47:46 Drew Or they see their mom beaten by somebody they don't know.

47:48 Adam Listen. How many kids do you have? Oh, Anderson. Put her on hold. You're lucky you got put on hold. Marina. How many kids?

47:58 I'm sorry?

47:59 Adam How many kids do you have?

48:00 I have two.

48:01 Adam All right. Listen. You take care of those kids. You stop getting involved with these idiots. I'm sorry for what your dad did to you. But stop it. Stop screwing these kids up. Mr. Alcoholic with the priors, the history of violence. Now he's beating on you and you're waiting for him when he gets out of prison. Jesus Christ, honey. I'm sorry for what happened to you. But why punish your kids?

48:21 Drew She's got to go to some treatment. Got to or she will not change it. She'll find another abuse of A-hole.

48:25 Adam All right, we're going to take a break. We'll be back.

48:30 Loveline will be right back. So get your problems ready. Ready.

49:14 Adam Hey, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Sisqo, tomorrow night. Just me and the doc tonight. And let's get back on them phones and speak to...

49:31 Drew Julie.

49:31 Adam Julie.

49:32 Hi.

49:33 Adam Hey, you're 25. What's going on?

49:38 Caller I've been seeing a guy for a month and a half, and we've been having sex for about a month now. And I don't know if he has, like, a erectile dysfunction problem, but he doesn't really get completely hard when we have sex, and then whenever we do, he... like, we have sex, and then he gets soft, and then he never or hardly ever comes. So I'm just wondering...

50:04 Adam What a compliment...

50:04 Caller .what I should do about that.

50:07 Drew By the way, what would erectile dysfunction look like to you?

50:10 Caller I don't know, because I was, like, doing some research, because I didn't know what it could be, because I'm beginning to think that it's me. I mean, he initiates sex and everything, but he's not... I've never... I mean, I've never been with anybody who gets, you know, soft while we're having sex, and then...

50:30 Adam While he's in you, he gets soft?

50:33 Caller Well, yeah, because he'll be firm, but not totally hard, and then we'll have sex, and then while we're having sex, it'll just... We'll just be going at it for a long time, and then he gets... It's like he loses his erection.

50:46 Adam Well, how long are you going at it?

50:49 Caller Um...

50:52 Caller Like, I don't know, like...

50:53 Adam Take a leap.

50:54 Caller Can you sleep for 15 minutes, I guess?

50:56 Adam I see. Yeah, this ain't a great sign. It has nothing to do with you. I mean, if you're a little hotter, I'm sure...

51:04 Caller No.

51:05 Adam Uh, Drew, because we know that a guy can be a little nervous, a little apprehensive, and get a little bit of that leather in the peckeroo, right?

51:15 Drew Leather the peckeroo.

51:15 Adam Just leather. Yeah, I call it... We call it leather because, uh, I'm a ceramics major, was in high school, and they used to call clay somewhere between wet and dry, they'd call it leather. It was just sort of...

51:28 Drew It was good for clay, though.

51:29 Adam Eh... You couldn't handle it too much, it would crack. Ah, that's the way my penis is, when I'm either way. But the point is, is usually if they can get it from that stage and get in you, and get going a little, then the blood starts circulating. And you hear that compressor engine kick in. And it starts going.

51:48 Drew Yeah.

51:48 Adam The fact that he's getting softer at a certain point is not a great sign.

51:53 Drew Is he on a medication?

51:55 Caller Um, no.

51:56 Drew How old is he?

51:58 Caller 73. Well, he's 30. He's going to be 31.

52:02 Adam I see. Now, see, that kind of works against him, because I was thinking, well, maybe is he inexperienced?

52:11 Caller No.

52:12 Adam Was he married for a while and recently divorced?

52:15 Caller No.

52:17 Drew Does he talk with you about his problem?

52:20 Caller No, we don't really talk about it.

52:22 We sort of just...

52:24 Drew How is that happen?

52:25 Adam How? You ever give moral?

52:29 Caller Yeah, but it's really weird, because it's just, it's like when we do anything like that, it has to be like really fast and just, you know, like kind of mechanical, in my opinion, you know?

52:42 Adam What's the... How's the oral sex?

52:44 Caller Well, that has to be really fast too, like I just...

52:47 Adam Yeah. Can he have an orgasm?

52:49 Caller Well, he has. He has a couple of times, but not... But not all the time.

52:57 Adam Does he give...

52:58 Caller You're saying that it could be me? You're saying that he might... Is it possible that he's just like, that I'm just not the type of person that he's attracted to?

53:05 Adam I'm saying if you're a little hotter, that... No, I'm just screwing around with you. There's nothing wrong with you. And listen, guys who can get up... Listen, guys screw like transvestite hookers all the time and have no problem. I've seen guys drunk with eight other guys standing around and they're on top of some transvestite. No trouble.

53:26 Drew I don't think he would stay with you if he wasn't Indian.

53:29 Adam Right, right. I'm wondering, Julie, does he give you oral pleasure?

53:35 Caller Yeah, he does. I mean, he does and...

53:38 Adam That's quite a glowing reveal.

53:40 Drew How does things sort of wind down when you guys are having sex? He loses erection and then you guys just go, oh, forget it.

53:47 Caller Usually, like, I'm ready for him to stop when he does because we've been going at it and I'm fine. And then he stops and then...

53:56 Drew You need to have a little talk with him about...

53:59 Caller How do I bring that up? I mean, what do I say?

54:02 Drew I would just talk to him, say you just want to talk about your sexual experience, I notice that you're not climaxing, is that normal for you?

54:10 Adam Yeah, and has he ever given you an orgasm?

54:14 Caller Orally, but I can't... I haven't had one during intercourse.

54:19 Adam Okay, well you gotta give him some points for doing the oral route, or as I like to do the oral-fecal route. Alright, listen...

54:28 Caller Do you think this is something that I should definitely talk to him about?

54:31 Drew Oh, absolutely.

54:32 Adam Listen, all of you out there, within the sound of my voice, most guys are eager for the fray and good to go, but there's a certain percentage of guys that are almost like women, and that they have to get comfortable with somebody, they gotta break them in, they gotta work it in.

54:50 Drew Or they need a certain kind of stimulation.

54:52 Adam Or they need something very specific, like a stiletto heel in the ass or something. These are all the things you must work out within your relationship. Do not be scared to talk about it. All right, where are we going? Lisa?

55:08 Hello?

55:10 Adam What's up, baby? You're 21.

55:11 Caller Yeah, whenever I go out to clubs and stuff, girls hit on me, and it's been really confusing for me because I've also had bad relationship with guys, and now every time I go out, girls hit on me, and it's like, I'm thinking, do I set off a vibe to like girls?

55:29 Drew Yes, you must, whatever it is. It's the I like abusive guys and I'm open for anything.

55:36 Caller But it's really scaring me because I like, I mean, it doesn't disgust me to think of girls like in a sexual way.

55:42 Drew What do you think? What do you think they're saying? These women?

55:45 Caller I don't know. It's like, you know, like they will like, you know, grab my grab me or like rub my shoulders and stuff and like the guys do that also? Yeah, guys hit on me too. Like just like same way. I went out and I can tell you just as many guys were hitting on me as girls.

56:03 Drew In the same way.

56:04 Adam You have a very popular ass.

56:07 Drew Are you like, you have a bunch of tats and pierces and stuff?

56:09 Caller No, not at all. No, I look very, very girly.

56:13 Adam Okay. Well, you're an attractive young girl. You go to clubs, people get drunk and everyone hits on you. What's the confusion?

56:22 Caller See, because I'm thinking that I like just because I had like bad relationships with guys, like now I'm becoming a lesbian.

56:31 Adam No, bad relationship with guys can make you more into guys, just bad guys.

56:36 Caller Yeah, I only think bad guys too. So like now I'm like, you know, maybe I should leave guys alone and go for girls.

56:42 Adam Well, why don't you leave everyone alone for a little bit and figure yourself out.

56:47 Caller But I don't know how.

56:48 Adam Well, just don't go out to the club. You do what I do. You stay home and you wait to die.

56:56 Drew Do you dress very provocatively?

56:58 Caller No, no, no, not at all.

57:00 Adam Well, what are you doing at the club?

57:02 Caller Well, I usually just, I don't even like get drunk or anything really either. Like I just go with my friends and we dance and well, actually last year I used to go to this club that was like mainly like it was a gay bar, like just because they played better music. And I used to go with my friends, dance with my friends and leave with my friends again. Don't talk to anybody or anything.

57:23 Adam I know, but don't, isn't there something with you women that makes you want to go out there and be desired by people even if you don't desire them?

57:32 Caller Oh, no.

57:33 Caller Yes.

57:35 Adam Yes. Yes. Yes. And why is that? You know what I mean? Like I like people liking me, but if I don't like them, I don't want them to like me. It's a pain in the ass.

57:46 Drew It's a need for validation. They need to feel good about themselves.

57:49 Adam That's right. I mean, how insecure must you be that you have to just go out with your friends and dance and have people come up to you and then you just turn them down all night and you call us and talk about how much people love you.

58:00 Caller Yeah.

58:01 Adam Look, if you haven't troubled these clubs, don't go to the clubs. If you're into women, get into a woman. If you're not, fine.

58:08 Drew But more, she needs to figure out why, you know, what it was the dad did to her, what kind of abuse was perpetrated against her that caused her to go out and pick all these abusive guys over and over and over again and then to be so unclear about who she is that now I'll go lesbian if I feel like it. What the hell?

58:21 Caller All right.

58:21 Adam You do that, Drew. Is that Rochelle or Rachel? All right. You're 21.

58:28 Caller Yeah.

58:28 Caller My question is, I've been together with my son's dad for about, I'd say, almost five years, four or five years. And we keep breaking up and then getting back together and breaking up and getting back together. And like this last year, we've both been dating other people. And I have a really hard time of being by myself. Like, I keep going back and forth between these two guys. Like, I'll break up with my son's dad and then go to this other guy. And then we'll break up and I'll go back to my son's dad. And I'm only 21 and I'm seriously scared of dying alone.

59:01 Drew Yeah. Well, you've been left alone at other times in your life, right?

59:03 Caller Yeah.

59:04 Drew When?

59:05 Caller Well, my dad was never around when I was younger. And then he came back around when I was in fifth grade. And everybody, all my family told me that he was dying of cancer. But two weeks before he died, I found out he was HIV positive.

59:19 Drew Was he a drug addict?

59:20 Caller Yes. Oh, boy.

59:24 Adam And so how old is your kid?

59:26 Caller He's three. He turns three this month.

59:29 Adam So you had a kid when you were 18, huh?

59:32 Caller Yeah.

59:32 Adam Pregnant at 17?

59:34 Caller Yeah.

59:35 Adam Good times.

59:36 Caller Yeah.

59:36 Adam And can you create a little stability on behalf of your son so he doesn't shoot one of Drew's sons?

59:44 Caller Well, you know, that's my most important thing is him.

59:46 Caller Yeah, I can see.

59:49 Adam Oh, it's a priority for you.

59:50 Caller It is a priority.

59:52 Drew Well, why don't you get in a committed relationship and create some stability in your life, if that's your priority?

59:58 Caller Yeah.

59:58 Caller And it's like I don't have anywhere to go. So.

1:00:00 Drew Well, wait a minute. I thought that was your priority.

1:00:03 Caller What?

1:00:04 Drew Creating stability for your child.

1:00:05 Caller Yeah.

1:00:06 Caller But I'm trying.

1:00:07 Caller Okay.

1:00:07 Caller I'm not together with my son's dad, but I'm living with him.

1:00:10 Caller Is that stability?

1:00:12 Caller So that my son will have both of us in the house.

1:00:15 Caller Right.

1:00:16 Adam Yeah. But both of you in the house, it's like having a mongoose and a snake in the house.

1:00:21 Caller Yeah. It's horrible because, you know, he antagonizes me by, you know, Yeah.

1:00:26 Caller All right.

1:00:26 Adam Well, listen, why don't you let that child, give him a chance, let him be raised by a family of raccoons. Okay. So he's got a chance. Jesus Christ. Listen, everybody, I hate to sound like a broken record. I hate to sound like a ball buster. And I know you guys got problems. It's just, I immediately lose all sympathy for you and your problems when you're jacking around your kid. Now you're not going to continue on with this guy. It ain't going to work long term. This father of your child, as you announce him. So why don't you just sever things for good, move out and find yourself a substantial relationship that's consistent. And if you got to lay low without a relationship for a little while, then so be it. Being alone ain't such a bad thing, everybody. You can discover things about yourself. Everyone's got to have noise all the time. Got to have noise, got to have drama, got to have music, got to have relationships, got to have yelling, got to have something going on. Just sit alone with your thoughts for one goddamn second, everyone. Can you be brave enough to do that?

1:01:36 Drew Jacob.

1:01:37 Hi.

1:01:38 Adam Hey, Jacob.

1:01:39 Hi.

1:01:40 Adam I want you to break up with your girlfriend and be alone with your thoughts. I think you just left, I think you just left us alone with our thoughts. You're 14. What's up? All right.

1:01:55 Drew Jacob, we're going to hang up.

1:01:58 Adam Okay. I think I confused him or maybe he's breaking up with his girlfriend.

1:02:03 Caller Paul. Yes. What's going on?

1:02:09 Drew Oh my God.

1:02:10 Caller There's a lot of things going on with the phone.

1:02:13 Caller Sorry.

1:02:13 Caller Oh, okay.

1:02:16 Caller Yeah, I got a problem with cold sores.

1:02:21 Caller And it's been a problem for about 25 years. I've had him since I was a kid.

1:02:30 Drew Why is it such a big deal?

1:02:31 Caller Well, and, uh.

1:02:34 Caller Well.

1:02:39 Adam Hey, Paul.

1:02:40 Caller Yeah.

1:02:41 Adam Do your friends know you as Paul or by your pseudonym, Mr. Excitement?

1:02:49 Caller Mr. Excitement.

1:02:50 Adam Okay. What's up there, Quailu Boy?

1:02:54 Caller Sorry. All right.

1:02:55 Adam Let's get it together. Here we go now.

1:02:57 Caller Okay.

1:02:58 Adam On the radio. Here we go.

1:03:00 Drew National radio.

1:03:00 Caller Here we go.

1:03:01 Drew Let's get it together. And go.

1:03:05 Caller Okay. So anyways, yeah, it's been kind of taken over my life as far as...

1:03:11 Drew Why is it such a big deal? Why is it such a big deal?

1:03:14 Caller Well, I'm an actor and it's really embarrassing.

1:03:20 Caller I... I...

1:03:21 Caller I...

1:03:21 Caller I don't know.

1:03:24 Caller I feel like...

1:03:25 Drew Turn your radio off. You're listening to the radio at the same time as you're talking to us.

1:03:28 Caller You're screwing me up.

1:03:29 Drew Well, turn it off.

1:03:31 Adam Now I'm going number two. You want to cover? And you know, people wonder why I hate all our callers.

1:03:39 Caller Call?

1:03:40 Adam Don't hate me. Yeah. We're now going on hour number three of you and your canker sore.

1:03:44 Drew Yeah. You have these cold sores.

1:03:46 Adam Do you want help or don't you?

1:03:48 Caller Yeah, I need help here.

1:03:49 Adam Okay.

1:03:50 Drew How often do you have them?

1:03:52 Caller Quite frequently.

1:03:53 Drew How often?

1:03:54 Caller I pulled down a job.

1:03:55 Caller I dropped out of school because of them.

1:03:57 Caller They're just the most.

1:03:59 Drew How often?

1:04:01 Caller How often?

1:04:01 Caller About once every two months.

1:04:05 Adam Hang up.

1:04:05 Caller Hang up.

1:04:07 Drew Once every two months.

1:04:08 Adam Yeah. I hung up on him.

1:04:09 Drew He has a cold sore once every two months and he can't work because of that? That's nuts.

1:04:13 Adam Okay.

1:04:14 Drew That's a problem. Plus, he could take the medication and could decrease the outbreak to about five days. So, five days out of two months and he can't work?

1:04:20 Adam Well, listen, he says he's an actor. I can just see him as an actor. He's probably... He was probably just an ensemble of Showboat recently.

1:04:30 Drew Oklahoma.

1:04:30 Adam Yeah. He was in Ether, the musical. It's like, oh, Christ's sake. How often? Well, how often?

1:04:40 Drew Quite a few.

1:04:40 Adam How often?

1:04:41 Caller Well, I can't hold down.

1:04:43 Adam How often? Oh, Jesus. Listen, go to the dermatologist, the doctor or dermatologist.

1:04:50 Drew Anyone can treat these. They can. With Zovrax or Famvira, these medications can cut the outbreaks in number down and the duration way down.

1:04:58 Adam And you can be one of those people who gets on this full time.

1:05:01 Drew Sure, you can be. With that big a deal.

1:05:02 Adam It's like, what is that called? Suppressive therapy?

1:05:04 Caller Yeah.

1:05:05 Drew But why would that be such a big deal to him? There's something way more going on in his psychiatric and it's not about his skin.

1:05:10 Adam Alright, well who could tell by talking to him? James?

1:05:13 Caller Yes.

1:05:14 Adam You're 22, what's up?

1:05:17 Caller Um, I'm in love with my best friend's girlfriend.

1:05:23 Caller Does she know it?

1:05:24 Caller She is?

1:05:26 Adam Well, then she needs to break up with your best friend.

1:05:31 Caller She's living off him right now and she has two kids.

1:05:36 Drew You want to take over the care of those two kids?

1:05:39 Caller For her, yes.

1:05:40 Drew Oh, man, this is a crazy situation.

1:05:42 Adam What do you do for a living?

1:05:44 Caller I install carpets and towels in schools.

1:05:47 Adam I see. Well, probably getting a decent paycheck, right?

1:05:51 Caller Yeah, decent.

1:05:52 Adam All right. You got benefits?

1:05:55 Caller No, not at all.

1:05:57 Adam Really? No insurance or anything, huh?

1:05:59 Caller No, nothing.

1:06:01 Adam You're not working for the school board?

1:06:03 Caller No.

1:06:04 Adam You're working for some subcontractor comes in there and does that?

1:06:09 Caller Well, we're here privately. I mean, our boss doesn't offer any benefits.

1:06:13 Adam I see. Well, listen, how old is this chick and her two kids?

1:06:17 Caller Twenty. And her first kid, two years old, and her second kid is 18 months.

1:06:24 Drew Hey, it's your best friend's girlfriend. Why are you carrying around along with her? She's your best friend's girlfriend.

1:06:30 Caller Because this was going on before they were dating. All right.

1:06:38 Adam Is these are his kids?

1:06:41 Caller Yeah.

1:06:42 Adam Both of them?

1:06:43 Caller Yeah.

1:06:44 Adam And does he want to marry her or anything?

1:06:49 Caller No, he doesn't.

1:06:50 Adam And they live together?

1:06:52 Caller Yeah.

1:06:53 Drew Oh, this is so nuts.

1:06:54 Caller Is she there for the free ride?

1:06:55 Drew No, she's not, James. She's not. This is like the cheating husband who was always telling the mistress how he was going to break up and his wife mistreats her. It's the same exact situation except the sexes are reversed. Right.

1:07:08 Adam Interesting. Hey, James?

1:07:10 Caller Yes?

1:07:11 Adam Listen to me. As you know, I'm a genius. All right? Self-proclaimed, albeit, but a genius, okay? I will predict your future with this chick. You two will then have two more kids and you'll still be laying goddamn carpet in some elementary school and your life will be miserable. This chick has problems. I guarantee she has problems. And her kids have problems. And you will inherit all of that if you hook up with her. Can't you please just find some single chick with no kids who's freed up, who's not your best friend's girlfriend and just let them be? Can you please do that?

1:07:54 Drew There she is now.

1:07:55 Caller Well, I can try, but I'm in love.

1:07:58 Adam Well, I know.

1:07:59 Drew But being in love is not an answer for anything in our show.

1:08:01 Adam You're one good date with some other chick away from being out of love.

1:08:05 Drew Being in love with someone else.

1:08:07 Adam And don't hide behind that in love excuse. And I guarantee you this chick is screwed up. I guarantee it because she'd not be carrying on this way. She wouldn't have two kids with this sugar daddy she's leeching off of. And that ain't even the case.

1:08:21 Drew And if we talk to the sugar daddy, imagine how he would see the relationship.

1:08:25 Adam Right. Best friend. Oh my God. But listen. Listen. You know, I feel sorry for you women out there who are young, who have a couple of children, who are sort of in a sense, your life is almost ruined because you have ruined it by forfeiting your youth, your education, your career. You had a kid at 17. You had another one at 19. You got a third on the way. You're screwed. And I feel bad for you. But the guys who hook up with these crazy chicks and jump, jump basically in the toilet with them, these guys are, these guys are even dumber. This guy is, now it's not to say that you can't have a relationship, marry or do whatever with a woman that has a couple of kids. But I guarantee this chick is trouble.

1:09:16 Drew Oh yeah.

1:09:17 Adam And James, because he's desperate more than he is in love, can't find anybody else, is just gonna jump right down the bowl with her.

1:09:24 Drew And she's just manipulating the hell out of him.

1:09:26 Adam And this guy's probably gonna try to shoot him. Yeah. All right. Should we move on or you want to?

1:09:31 Drew Let's take a break.

1:09:32 Adam All right.

1:09:32 Drew When we come back, Drew, good times.

1:09:34 Adam Who are we talking to?

1:09:36 Drew That we'd talk to interesting line four.

1:09:41 Adam That's good. I memorized all the calls of the screen just went blank. As soon as Drew said line four. All right, we will talk to JJ17, girlfriend taking friends insolent. Wants to know how it will affect her after this.

1:10:17 Caller You're listening to Loveline on Outrageous Talk Radio.

1:10:20 Caller 100.7 The Buzz.

1:10:33 Adam Hey, Loveline, Adam, that's my sometimes friend, sometimes lover, Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Sisqo, in the hissy, that's the his house. I never quite worked that one out. In the his house? In the his house. Right. Everyone always corrects me on that. In the his house. I'm quite sure how that works. We don't have to say his house, do we? In the house, right?

1:11:05 Drew You're looking at the lamest guy. Why would you be asking me something like that?

1:11:08 Adam In the his house. Well, he'll be in the his house tomorrow night with us.

1:11:12 Drew Let's talk to Jay.

1:11:13 Adam Until then, we'll get back with Jay. 17J?

1:11:16 Caller Yeah.

1:11:17 Adam Adam, you're a genius.

1:11:19 Caller Adam, you're a genius.

1:11:20 Adam Thank you.

1:11:20 Caller Dr. Drew, so are you.

1:11:24 Adam You too. Hey, Jay, let me ask you a quick question. Is it Sisqo in the his house or is the his house?

1:11:33 Caller I think it's the hissy.

1:11:35 Adam The hissy?

1:11:36 Caller The hissy.

1:11:37 Adam But that's short for the his house. Jay.

1:11:40 Caller Whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Well, first, Adam, if you don't mind, I wanted to go off and comment on the situation that went down in San Diego yesterday.

1:11:48 Adam Please, Jay, we've been waiting to hear from you.

1:11:51 Caller Yeah. But I just wanted to let, I am a member of the high school population and I wanted to let all the idiot kids know out there that if they feel like taking the gun and going to school and shooting, you know, shooting up the school, shooting up innocent people, I direct the stupid, idiotic people that feel that way to take the gun and just shoot themselves, you know? Instead of involving innocent people and trying to make a name for themselves, I don't even know the kid's name. I don't even want to know them.

1:12:23 Drew It's all kind of in a rational impulse and I'm not sure there's a big difference between kids that turn the guns on themselves versus those that turn them on other people.

1:12:31 Adam But it's a fine line. Jay makes a valid point to anybody who's gonna shoot up anyone, especially if they're suicidal, should just kill yourself first, save yourself the trouble. All right, thank you, Jay. Now what's the problem?

1:12:45 Caller Anyway, my girlfriend, she has a friend that has diabetes who takes insulin shots. And for some odd reason, my girlfriend has been taking the insulin shots. I don't know how many times, I think two or three times she's taken them. And I wanted to know the effect.

1:13:00 Drew What would, wait, wait, wait, what would possess her to do that?

1:13:03 Caller She thinks that it would give her some kind of a high or something. She says it makes her feel good, but.

1:13:08 Drew She's such an addict that she has to start shooting insulin and stealing insulin from a friend.

1:13:15 Adam How old is your girlfriend?

1:13:17 Caller She's 17.

1:13:18 Adam Yeah, she's severely troubled.

1:13:22 Caller She's a piece of work, but.

1:13:23 Adam Oh, she's a serious piece of work because let me tell you, women, especially young women, are usually pretty freaked out about needles anyway. And anybody who's scraping for a high this this hard, it's got some serious ass going on in their life.

1:13:40 Caller As far as I know, I don't think she's ever done anything else.

1:13:43 Drew I think her shirt insulin.

1:13:44 Caller You sure it's insulin she's injecting?

1:13:47 Adam What's insulin? What's it comprised of?

1:13:49 Drew Insulin is a hormone that lowers your blood sugar. It sort of maintains your blood sugar metabolism.

1:13:56 Adam And if a person without diabetes took it, what would the effect be?

1:13:59 Drew It will profoundly lower the blood sugar and put them into a coma. Their brain needs glucose in order to function. The glucose will be depleted, the brain will shut off, and she will die. Very simple.

1:14:10 Adam So why isn't she died?

1:14:12 Drew Because she hasn't quite driven the sugar down low enough. She doesn't take a big enough dose. Just by coincidence.

1:14:16 Adam All right. Jay needs to have a serious talk with this chick and start talking to her about getting some rehab or something. Because Drew, I mean it, for a woman to do this especially. Guys are stupid, they're goofballs, they experiment.

1:14:29 Drew She needs a psychiatrist.

1:14:30 Adam Yeah, that's a big deal.

1:14:31 Drew This is life-threatening importance for her.

1:14:33 Adam Stacey? Yeah. You're 20, what's up?

1:14:37 Caller I've been seeing this guy recently. He's 31 years old. And I was wondering, is that too old for her?

1:14:47 Adam Well, is he a good guy?

1:14:49 Caller Yeah, he seems to be pretty good.

1:14:51 Drew He's divorced?

1:14:53 Caller Yeah, he's been divorced for about a year now, I think.

1:14:55 Drew Do you have kids?

1:14:56 Caller Yeah.

1:14:57 He's got a nine-year-old and a 13-year-old.

1:15:00 Adam Thirteen, huh?

1:15:01 Yeah.

1:15:02 Adam He's thirty?

1:15:04 Caller Thirty-one.

1:15:06 Adam Thirty-one.

1:15:06 Caller Yeah.

1:15:09 Adam His kid's older than you are, right? And you hesitated a little if I asked you if he was a good guy.

1:15:18 Caller Well...

1:15:20 Adam All right. Hey, listen, that's it. Break up.

1:15:22 Drew Forget it. If you have to hesitate like that, just forget it.

1:15:26 Adam You've been dating a guy for a few months. It's like, is he a good guy?

1:15:34 Well...

1:15:37 Adam How long did they say they were going out? A couple of months, right? Okay. Listen, you've got to take a huge inhale and a slow exhale if I ask you, of your new partner. I didn't ask you if he was the world's greatest lover or if he treated you like a queen. I said, is he a good guy? Break up. That's it, all you screwballs.

1:15:55 Drew Hey, Vic. Hello. What's going on?

1:15:58 Caller Hey, me and my friends made this, I don't know, I guess you'd call it Santana Relief website. For all those people that were involved in that shooting. Yeah.

1:16:10 Adam And what do you get on this website?

1:16:14 Caller Basically just people that have family over there and stories about, you know, we have some people that have family in Combine when that happened. And so we post and stuff like that up, you know, just it's basically a support group, you know.

1:16:30 Adam That's good.

1:16:31 Caller Yeah.

1:16:32 Drew What's the address?

1:16:34 Caller It's kind of long. We're trying to get sponsors so we can shorten it. But here it is so far. HTTP colon slash slash Nick Voss, N-I-C-K-V-O-S dot tripod.com/relief/maindoth-t-m.

1:16:59 Adam Wouldn't it be better off they just walked a letter over to you? Wouldn't it be faster? Oh, my God. Drew, why is that so long?

1:17:06 Drew I don't know.

1:17:07 Adam Why does it have to be that long?

1:17:08 Drew That's what I don't know. Why?

1:17:10 Caller Basically, if you want to get like a WW, it costs like $100 a month to get that. This is so they can put up their billboards in junk.

1:17:20 Caller Interesting.

1:17:22 Caller Yeah. But we're trying to get it, maybe put it on the Dr. Drew website. I don't know about that.

1:17:28 Adam Well, he doesn't do any charity work.

1:17:29 Drew No, we do. You can call a-

1:17:31 Adam He's not the March of Dines, you understand? He wants to turn a buck over that.

1:17:34 Drew It's actually drcoop.com now that runs the operation. So, you can call Dr. Coop in Santa Monica. Alright. Okay.

1:17:40 Adam You just ask for information?

1:17:42 Drew Yeah.

1:17:42 Adam Dr. Coop in Santa Monica?

1:17:43 Drew drcoop.com.

1:17:44 Adam See if you can list your website on your web address.

1:17:47 Drew We'll talk to the people that are running that, yeah.

1:17:49 Adam Alright, Nick. You're doing God's work over there.

1:17:52 Caller Thanks. Oh, can I say one more thing?

1:17:54 Adam Yeah.

1:17:54 Caller Just basically to everyone. If they have any stories or any support they'd like to add on, they can email me at nickwilcox.com. Yeah, you know, just to help people.

1:18:09 Adam Alright, let's go. Well, thanks.

1:18:11 Caller Alright.

1:18:12 Adam Nick is 16, taking care of the world. Greg?

1:18:17 Caller Hi.

1:18:17 Adam You're 30, what's up?

1:18:19 Caller Yeah, I just saw you guys live over at UCSD.

1:18:21 Caller You guys rock.

1:18:23 Adam Oh, thanks.

1:18:23 Caller It was so funny. I haven't laughed that hard in so long.

1:18:26 Adam Really?

1:18:27 Caller Really, really good. Really, really good.

1:18:29 Adam Thanks.

1:18:30 Caller Well, you know, I'm a student there at UCSD and straight A student returning after about, I took about four years off to recover from alcoholism or get into recovery.

1:18:42 Caller Been sober for three years now and I guess I freak out the girls when I ask them out there because like, you know, I'm 30, they're about, you know, 22 to 24.

1:18:51 Drew Maybe that just freaks out the age difference.

1:18:53 Caller I think so and I'm just, you know, asking for suggestions.

1:18:56 Drew I can remember being in my 20s and thinking 30 was really old. Yeah. There was a guy in my medical school class who was 30, a couple of them, they're about 30 and it's like, wow, oh my God.

1:19:05 Adam Yeah, Geyser McCoy studying for his test. Yeah, but you know what? I don't want to punch holes in Greg's theory, but on the other hand, if there was a hot 30-year-old dude, he could really mop up sexually on campus.

1:19:22 Drew And he has more stability and sort of more.

1:19:25 Adam Drew, imagine if you were cut loose on a campus now and knowing what you know.

1:19:29 Drew Right, right, right, right.

1:19:30 Adam You'd be banging chicks at the rec center and phone booths right out in the street, parking structures.

1:19:37 Drew Actually, I wouldn't.

1:19:37 Adam You just leave a wake of sexed women behind you.

1:19:41 Drew But I would go very clearly at exactly what I was interested in. You know, I mean, I would mess around.

1:19:47 Adam Yeah, because at the time, the clock's ticking. Yeah, well, so I.

1:19:50 Drew Grim Reaper's waiting around.

1:19:52 Adam Here's what I'm saying, Greg. And, you know, I don't I don't mean to attack you because you came out and you support us and you said all those good things and everything. But if you're a 30 year old guy who ain't freaking them out, you shouldn't be freaking them out. It shouldn't be the age that freaks them out. And it ain't just it ain't the age that's freaking them out.

1:20:10 Drew So what else do you think it is?

1:20:12 Adam Here's something that Greg's doing. He could could be hitting on the wrong girls.

1:20:17 Caller It might be my glances because, you know, I'll notice I'll be walking down the campus. And there's, you know, as you saw, there's tons of hot chicks there. Yeah. Like even chicks that are barely glanced at will like cover up, you know, like cover themselves.

1:20:30 Drew You look at them like like like in those Warner Brothers cartoons where the guys are desert island and one turns into a hot dog or a hamburger.

1:20:38 Adam Right.

1:20:38 Drew They're starving.

1:20:40 Adam That's my point. Yeah.

1:20:41 Drew Yeah. They do not like the lean and hungry look at all.

1:20:45 Adam Well, they like the lean look, but not the hungry. I mean, Greg, you're you're putting out a vibe that is freaking them out and you got to get to the bottom of that vibe. But don't get mired in the age because let me tell you something. There are every 22 year old chick, 23 year old chick, 19 year old chick is open to dating an attractive 30 year old guy has no problem with it.

1:21:10 Drew Think how have you met?

1:21:11 Adam He said 22 and 24.

1:21:13 Drew Yeah.

1:21:13 Adam You think there's a 24 year old chick alive who wouldn't mind dating a 30 year old guy if he wasn't freaking her ass out?

1:21:20 Drew What a compliment. When the guy you notice that when you look at women, they cover up. Imagine that feeling. Oh my God.

1:21:28 Adam Hey, I've done that to prostitutes. Oh, I've had prostitutes pull like a poncho over them just by driving by.

1:21:34 Caller Just because you lost.

1:21:35 Adam Yeah. And through the rear view.

1:21:37 Drew Look at that look. What must be in that stare?

1:21:39 Adam They're picking up something, Greg's vibe. And let me tell you something, that's all women are. They ain't great thinkers, says women. I don't know if you've discovered that. Well, Drew, you're married, you know. But they do know vibe.

1:21:50 Drew They got instinct.

1:21:51 Adam They got instinct. They're really more, they're more dog than human women. They really are. They understand vibe.

1:21:57 Drew They hear the high pitch whistles and things.

1:21:59 Adam They hear that high pitch that Whitney Houston type singing and Ella Fitzgerald. They react to that. It hurts them. That's why they can't go in planes.

1:22:07 Caller Oh, is that right?

1:22:08 Adam It hurts their ears. Yeah, they're not equipped for it.

1:22:11 Drew They start running around in circles, too.

1:22:12 Adam They chase their tails.

1:22:13 Caller Yeah. Yeah.

1:22:15 Caller All right.

1:22:16 Adam Let's talk to Ken. Ken is 27. What's up?

1:22:20 Caller Hey, how you doing, guys? Good. Well, I love your show. You guys keep it going. I hope you last for ever and a day.

1:22:26 Caller You know what I mean? Thank you.

1:22:29 Drew Sensing that we're tiring out.

1:22:31 Caller I understand.

1:22:32 Caller No, I haven't.

1:22:34 Caller I don't know if it's really a problem or not. I have a problem with, okay, when I ejaculate, not every time. I'm not a faithful person. I'm not, I wouldn't say not faithful, but I just have various sex partners, very safe all the time, always take care of my, but I don't have the room in my life right now for a settled down relationship. And I've been seeing this girl now for probably about three months, started having sex. And the thing is, just with this one female, I have a problem with dizziness during my orgasm.

1:23:10 Drew Are you really into it with her?

1:23:12 Caller Oh, I mean, I'm really into it with all my partners.

1:23:15 Drew Is there anything special about her?

1:23:18 Caller That's what I'm trying to figure out. I really try to figure it out because she's beautiful. I've noticed her months before we started seeing each other. And that's just the way I am. I'm like straightforward. Hey, let's just get together. Let's have some fun. That's about as far as I want to take it. They either say yes or they say no. This girl, I have my eye on her. And it's just funny because during sex, sex is great. Sex is wonderful. It's got to be great. Or I can't continue on with female.

1:23:48 Caller But it's just great.

1:23:49 Adam Very high standards for a sphenosis, Ken. Hey, Ken, listen. But are you really, are you working up a lather? Do you think you're hyperventilating at all?

1:24:00 Caller Right.

1:24:01 Caller I don't know. See, because it doesn't happen. I mean, sex is great with every woman I have.

1:24:05 Drew I can't track your head. Well, he just rambles.

1:24:09 Adam He rambles.

1:24:10 Caller I'm sorry.

1:24:11 Adam Here's the thing, if you're running on a treadmill, you know you're getting tired. And when you get too tired, you get off the treadmill. But when you're having sex, it's like when they talk about these guys that are shot themselves up with PCP, they have the strength of 10 men. You know what I mean? You can be going and when your body, when you should be resting, you don't rest. You just keep going. And maybe you're getting all worked up and maybe you're hyperventilating. And maybe by the time you get to the orgasm, it's sort of the crescendo and that's what's causing the dizziness and the lightheadedness.

1:24:46 Caller Yeah.

1:24:46 Drew And it's something about her that he's...

1:24:50 Caller It's got to be something about her because it doesn't happen with all...

1:24:53 Drew I don't suspect it would be a bad thing.

1:24:54 Adam Oh, listen. Look at it this way. Either you're madly in love or you have a brain tumor. Or both, perhaps, you know? I like... I always close my eyes and picture the haggard souls that these guys are humping.

1:25:13 Caller Yeah.

1:25:13 Adam You know what I mean?

1:25:13 Caller Yeah.

1:25:14 Adam Like when a guy like Ken goes, Yeah, I manage my own muffler shop and I'm a straightforward guy. I come to the ladies, I tell them, listen, I want sex and I want you. And if that means we got to do it in the waiting room or the lounge or in the head, or if we have to move some of these tools off my desk and do it right there, that's fine. But listen, baby, no strings, because Ken can't be tied down. This ain't cut of our travels. You know what I'm saying? And you think to yourself, what chick is agreeing to this condition with Ken? Sexually.

1:25:46 Drew I'm probably still long enough for this. Yeah.

1:25:48 Adam And then Ken lays it down. Hey, if I like something, go up and talk to it. I'm picturing what he's talking to. You know, everyone close your eyes. I'm a straightforward guy and I tell them straight out, I need a BJ and I don't got time for commitment. I gotta have a quick orgasm. I'm going back to one of my bitches. Do you think guys really do that? Or you think they just don't talk about it? You know, like I never trust it when guys go, hey, I'm straight up with people. I tell them it's my way or the highway. I always go, yeah, do you really say that? Or you just kind of not say anything?

1:26:22 Drew That's like people insisting that I'm so honest. If somebody says I'm honest, I don't trust them.

1:26:27 Adam Yeah, me neither, because it's like, if you have to convince me you're honest, you're hiding something.

1:26:31 Caller Yeah, right.

1:26:32 Adam And where are we going here?

1:26:33 Drew We're going to Bright.

1:26:34 Adam All right, good times, we'll be back after this. It is Loveline and Adam Corolla. It's Dr. Drew. Drew and I were just talking about the Miss USA pageant that Drew helped the judge along with his good friend.

1:27:18 Drew Martha Stewart.

1:27:19 Adam Martha Stewart, Donald Trump.

1:27:22 Drew Yeah.

1:27:23 Adam And then just some other B celebrities, or was there like Surge, Hairstylist of the Stars?

1:27:30 Drew Ananda Lewis and Karen Duffy and Donald Baldwin, Daniel Baldwin.

1:27:37 Adam And who did you vote for?

1:27:39 Drew Texas. Go in the wine.

1:27:40 Adam Oh, you did?

1:27:40 Drew Yeah.

1:27:41 Adam Now, how does that work? Does everyone cast a couple of votes?

1:27:44 Drew No, yeah. They actually show your votes on the screen until you get to the end, but they have a little computer thing and they tell you, you know, vote, vote your gut. They don't give you any instruction.

1:27:54 Adam What was her talent?

1:27:56 Drew No talents. This thing is just a visual, this one. It was hard, I think, after myself, my whole life, I've trained myself not to just judge people this way, and now I'm sitting here in judgment. Well, it's ridiculous.

1:28:09 Adam You said you liked Miss Georgia.

1:28:11 Drew Yeah, I did like Miss Georgia.

1:28:12 Adam But then what happened?

1:28:15 Drew I promised myself I wouldn't vote for someone that didn't look like they were eating, which was none of the ones I picked, and I also promised myself I'd pick the one that answered the questions the best.

1:28:22 Adam Well, you said this one was all looks.

1:28:24 Drew Texas did better than the questions.

1:28:26 Adam What questions? You said it was all looks.

1:28:28 Drew Oh, no. At the end, they picked the judges' names out of a hat, and each of the judges asked a question, and then they got shat and were asking a question at the very end.

1:28:35 Adam Now, what did they... Was one of the questions like, what would you rather do? Perform oral on your mom or have intercourse with your dad?

1:28:45 Drew Oh, you're so ridiculous.

1:28:47 Adam That would be a good answer.

1:28:48 Drew I would watch for that. If somebody would give you a million dollars, would you give oral sex to your dad?

1:28:52 Adam Oh, right, right. What kind of questions did they have?

1:28:56 Drew It was, you know, who's your favorite female athlete and why? Mine was, they gave you the questions. Mine was, sexual education is controversial in this country. What's your opinion? And who taught you about the birds and the bees?

1:29:09 Adam Oh, really?

1:29:10 Drew I didn't get to ask my questions because they didn't pick my name. Oh. That would have been interesting to see how they dealt with those.

1:29:15 Adam All right. So, Miss Georgia, she had cotton in her mouth.

1:29:20 Drew She just wasn't as good with the answer.

1:29:21 Adam Miss Texas is now Miss USA.

1:29:23 Drew Yeah.

1:29:24 Adam Hey, good times. Good times. It doesn't seem to be as big a deal as it used to be. Is it? Aren't we on to other things like hardcore porn? I know my penis has moved on. All right. Let's talk to somebody, Drew. Who do we got over here?

1:29:37 Drew This is John.

1:29:39 Adam John?

1:29:40 Caller Yeah.

1:29:40 Caller You're 30.

1:29:42 Caller Yes.

1:29:43 Adam What's up?

1:29:43 Caller Hi. Well, first of all, thanks for talking to me, Doctor. I appreciate this. Basically, I'm calling because I have a problem. I consider it a big problem, actually. About five years ago, my girlfriend, she became pregnant and we found out that she was HIV, you know, and then I tested myself and I was also HIV, you know, positive. And my question is actually two things. How do you handle this with girls? I mean, I've been, because we broke up, you know, like about a year ago and what happened to the child? Oh, the child's fine. She took some medicine and was able to prevent the transmission. Yeah.

1:30:35 Caller Yeah. Good.

1:30:36 Drew Are you on anything right now?

1:30:37 Caller A couple of minutes. Yeah. Very little.

1:30:39 Drew Okay.

1:30:39 Caller Yeah.

1:30:40 Drew Is your viral load well down?

1:30:42 Caller Yeah.

1:30:42 Caller It's undetectable.

1:30:43 Drew Okay. Good.

1:30:45 Caller Yeah.

1:30:45 Adam Who got AIDS? Who is the one who got the HIV?

1:30:49 Caller Well, I believe she had it because, you know, my son that was before her and my ex before her. I mean, we were, everybody's fine, you know? And after we got together, you know, this thing happened.

1:31:10 Adam Hey, John, a quick question here. How many kids you got to have with how many women?

1:31:18 Caller You know, it's...

1:31:19 Caller You got to answer?

1:31:21 Caller Yeah, I don't like it myself.

1:31:23 Adam Oh, okay. It's not your bag?

1:31:25 Caller I'm sorry?

1:31:25 Drew You're making a pretty good hobby out of it.

1:31:27 Adam You're doing quite a bit of it for someone who doesn't enjoy it too much.

1:31:30 Caller Yeah, it's not that, you know, I enjoy it. It's just, you know... Right.

1:31:35 Adam You got no control over your life. What are you going to do?

1:31:37 Caller I'm going to work out, yeah, you know.

1:31:39 Adam If it happens again, it happens again.

1:31:41 Caller Yeah. Well, I wish, you know, I was with my first wife. First of all, I didn't have to go through this.

1:31:46 Adam What happened to her first wife?

1:31:48 Caller I was young. Basically, I think I messed up. I was young and a lot of friends, you know, going out.

1:31:56 Caller Okay.

1:31:58 Adam Are you in the lives of these two kids?

1:32:00 Caller Yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely.

1:32:02 Caller Okay. All right.

1:32:03 Caller You know, they don't live with me, but I support them as much as I can emotionally and sure you do what you can economically. Yeah.

1:32:12 Drew What's your question?

1:32:13 Caller Well, basically, it's been so hard for me to find somebody that Are you honest with the women that you date about your HIV status? Yeah, because I tell them up front, you know, I don't want the thing that happened to me, you know.

1:32:27 Drew You know, the last couple I dealt with that was interesting was on the Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus show and the guy, the couple, the woman was an AIDS educator and she got this guy to speak on, you know, about what it's like to have HIV and they dealt a relationship and now they're married.

1:32:43 Adam Yeah. So it's a great help to John. No, but I mean, Well, if you go on a TV show, maybe you're meeting an AIDS educator.

1:32:49 Drew No, he might get around other HIV positive people, might get around people who are in the field to understand it.

1:32:57 Adam Listen, they must have websites, do they not?

1:33:01 Drew Well, he's from Los Angeles, he can start with AIDS Project. I'm sure they have social groups.

1:33:05 Adam Believe me, they do. And these are some of the best looking, horniest people out there. They really are. And listen, it's free love and good times. I mean, I don't think you're going to find someone who's not HIV positive to hook up with. And if you do, if you do, close your eyes. Think about the person who's getting into it.

1:33:31 Drew I met this couple.

1:33:33 Adam That was the one. The one chick who was out there got snatched up. Pardon the pun.

1:33:37 Drew All right, Jay.

1:33:39 Yeah.

1:33:39 Caller What's going on?

1:33:41 Drew Have we had eight people call Jay tonight?

1:33:43 Yeah, I guess so.

1:33:44 Adam What's up? You're 29.

1:33:45 Caller Yeah. I have a married woman that's obsessed with me and I I the fact that she's married. I don't want to, you know, what does that mean?

1:33:54 Drew What is she doing?

1:33:55 Caller She basically told me that, you know, she's obsessed with me. I mean, she likes me a lot. And so, I mean, we've gone out a couple of times, but as friends and nothing happened and I wanted to keep it that way, but she has other ideas.

1:34:09 Adam Well, what are you going to do? You got to ask her.

1:34:13 Caller I mean, that does cross my mind, but I, you know, I don't want to disrespect her.

1:34:17 Drew You know what will happen if you do that. Not only will you be jeopardizing a family, but you'll be in with this one. And she's nodding.

1:34:25 Caller That's what I was thinking. And then she basically told me that if, you know, if eventually I liked her, she was willing to divorce her husband. And to me, that was a little too much.

1:34:34 Adam Okay. Jay, just get out. Don't lead her on. You're a guy. You don't have to do anything. This goes out to all of you people, male and especially female, who gets yourself in this situation. There's a person you really know who likes you. Don't even pretend. Don't even toy for a second. I know it feels good to have someone really into you, but spare them, spare their family, spare their kids, and spare yourself.

1:34:58 Drew Yeah.

1:34:59 Adam You know what I mean? There's some people that they cannot let an opportunity go by. If someone's really into them.

1:35:05 Drew Yeah. That's a flaw.

1:35:06 Adam Well, I know I'm married or I know they're married or I know we're both into something else, but they're into me. What are we going to do here? It's like trying to drive two cars at once. It ain't going to work. Just be secure enough not to let them know. Listen, I know there's... I work with people. Producer Anne is pretty hot for me. There's a couple of girls I work with. I think got a little hot for me. You know what? If you ask them, they tell you I was the biggest prick in the world. Because I don't want to even get close. I don't even want to get started. I don't want to even make them think for a second that there's going to be something that's going on. It's the same thing women do to me, right? Good times.

1:35:46 Drew Good times.

1:35:47 Adam Alright, we'll take a break. We'll be back. That's Loveline, and that's Loveline. Sisqo, tomorrow night, y'all, in the hissy, in the his-ah, tomorrow night, everybody. So I want to thank all the folks over here at 91X for doing a great job and helping us out and being so courteous to us and making this happen, and Engineer Anderson, and Producer Ann, and who's on the phones over there? Lawrence.

1:36:38 Drew Sarah.

1:36:38 Adam Sarah, for doing a great job, and we'll see all you tomorrow night. Until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.

1:36:46 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff management sponsors for this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Engel. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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