Episode 1000754886921

1:01 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.

2:10 Stabbing Westward Good to be here again. Hello.

2:11 Adam And Chris, Chris' voice is bad, by the way. Is that from singing?

2:17 Stabbing Westward Singing in a cold and flying.

2:19 Adam Oh, yeah.

2:20 Stabbing Westward Got a cold, sang a bunch of shows, flew to Red Rocks, elevation 6,500 feet, and tried to sing there.

2:26 Adam Right.

2:27 Stabbing Westward That's hardcore.

2:28 Adam Drew, is it worse to sing in high altitudes? Is it worse to do everything in high altitudes?

2:33 Drew Yeah, it's harder, more difficult.

2:34 Why? You have to work harder.

2:35 Drew We got to move more air.

2:37 Adam And the air is thinner?

2:38 Stabbing Westward Yeah.

2:38 Adam Now, so, all right, but should you be talking tonight? I want you to talk, but is it okay?

2:45 Stabbing Westward I haven't spoken all day. My girlfriend's been tagging around with me. I just sort of write things down, and then she orders for me or makes phone calls for me, stuff like that. But I can talk now.

2:54 Adam Yeah, okay, good. Well, glad to hear what you have to say. The CD again is coming out in May. You guys, Chris was telling me was going out with...

3:04 Stabbing Westward The Cult.

3:04 Adam The Cult.

3:05 Stabbing Westward And Monster Magnet.

3:06 Adam And that's in June.

3:08 Stabbing Westward Yeah, June, August.

3:09 Adam And where's that? Is that going everywhere?

3:11 Stabbing Westward US., yeah. With like a three week stop in Texas. They really dig the Cult in Texas. But yeah, pretty much it's US. Canada.

3:17 Adam Where's the Cult from?

3:19 Stabbing Westward England.

3:20 Adam Yeah, that's kind of what I thought. But once in a while, I get my band screwed up. I mean, growing up, like growing up, I always thought Led Zeppelin was from here.

3:28 Drew Yeah, I could see that.

3:30 Adam Yeah, and I wouldn't have thought that like Aerosmith was from...

3:35 Stabbing Westward Boston.

3:36 Adam Boston. That one I never had. And then I probably thought the Ramones were from England. And it makes sense.

3:44 Drew It makes perfect sense.

3:45 Adam And then there's a couple of English bands you thought were from out here. But now we know the Cult is from where?

3:50 Stabbing Westward England.

3:51 Adam England. There we go. All right. You guys Cult fans?

3:54 Stabbing Westward I loved them in high school.

3:55 Adam Yeah. So have you never been out with them before?

3:59 Stabbing Westward No. We've had drinks with them, but we've never toured with them.

4:01 Adam I know they're in here a couple of years back.

4:03 Drew But we can't remember where they were. British or English or French. I couldn't tell by the way they talk. No, we just can't remember.

4:10 Adam We just can't remember anything. The greatest thing is when I introduce myself to a band that's been on here three or four times or done the TV show twice and the radio show twice.

4:19 Drew Jeanine Garofalo is the best example of that.

4:21 Adam Yeah. Jeanine Garofalo did the radio show twice and the TV show once.

4:25 Stabbing Westward That's where I was.

4:26 Adam I said, nice to meet you. It is a pleasure. She said that.

4:31 Stabbing Westward You do this every night though.

4:33 Adam I know. I know. And people always say like, doesn't it bother you talking about the problems of these kids and hearing about these runaways, these heroin addicts? I go, no, I never remember it. I get my car, forget all about it.

4:45 Stabbing Westward Every single day after our show, we walk outside and sign autographs and talk to people. And every day that one person will walk up and go, do you remember me? No, no, I'm sorry, I don't. Two years ago, I met you at a festival and you signed my shoe.

4:57 Adam Right, I was wearing vans. You know what the best thing though is, I always do it mockingly, but they seem to go for it. I'll always go, oh yeah, yeah, I remember you. And they go, they smile. They nod their head and you think, wait a minute, they're buying it. And I'll just keep going with it.

5:13 Drew They keep going, right?

5:13 Stabbing Westward They can run away with it.

5:14 Adam Yeah, and they'll feed you stuff too. They'll go, remember I was telling you about my dad? And you go, oh, yeah.

5:20 Stabbing Westward Oh, how is he?

5:22 No, I told you he died.

5:23 Stabbing Westward That's what I meant.

5:24 Adam It's always best, whether it's their dad, their dog, or their brother, you just go, oh, yeah, it's a shame.

5:29 It's a shame.

5:31 Adam All right, let's talk to John, who will not remember after tonight either. John?

5:36 Hey, good to go. I'm calling from Chicago. And Adam, you're cool, Dr. Drew, you're the man, and Stabbing Westward, you guys roll.

5:46 Stabbing Westward We're from Chicago.

5:47 Adam That's right.

5:48 Stabbing Westward Hometown.

5:48 Excellent, excellent. Hey, my question is this. It's really kind of dysfunctional and really embarrassing for me to talk about. But I had a sexual relations with an ant.

6:05 Adam Right.

6:05 Stabbing Westward Is this an insect or a relative?

6:09 Relative. Yeah, not an ant. But could she possibly be pregnant?

6:19 Adam No.

6:20 No.

6:21 Stabbing Westward Well, of course she could be pregnant.

6:23 Adam Did semen come out of your penis?

6:25 That's a firm.

6:26 Stabbing Westward Were you wearing a condom?

6:27 No.

6:28 Stabbing Westward Was she on the pill?

6:28 Drew Was your penis inside the vagina or anywhere near it?

6:32 How many questions am I answering? I have one.

6:34 Adam Well, of course. What is your question? Can you knock up a relative is what you're asking?

6:39 Yeah, that's true.

6:41 Adam Sure you can.

6:41 Drew Yeah. It's not like there's a cross mixing of species going on.

6:46 Okay.

6:46 Drew What do you think?

6:49 Her daughter is like my cousin.

6:52 Drew That would make her your aunt? Got it.

6:55 Right. Years and years ago, she's like four years younger than me. And I was like really young at the time. But I have always like sought to escape through sexual means. Yeah.

7:17 Adam What's this have to do with your cousin?

7:19 Well, I used her when she was younger than me.

7:22 Drew How old?

7:24 Adam Taboo theme.

7:25 Drew How old?

7:26 Between four and eight.

7:28 Drew Oh, for Christ's sake.

7:29 Adam And you were eight or twelve or something? Yeah. All right.

7:34 She must be up until the time I was about 16.

7:37 Drew She must be in great shape now.

7:38 Adam I see why you guys left Chicago, by the way.

7:41 Drew Who sexually abused you first?

7:44 I don't recall ever having any sexual abuse towards me.

7:50 Adam Yeah. So, okay, when did you have the encounter with your aunt?

7:59 I was probably 19 or 20, and she was early 30s.

8:06 Drew It's been going on for four years?

8:07 Yeah. There was some crack involved, too.

8:09 Drew Yeah. John, listen, you've got this is big, big, big league pathology. This is about as bad as the situation can get.

8:16 Well, that's a relief because I started to believe that this was like kind of reality for me.

8:22 Drew No, this is your reality, but it's a very sick reality.

8:24 Adam It is for you, but yeah.

8:26 Drew It really is. And I don't know, I wonder whether or not that your cousin had been sexually abused first and she maybe sexualized the relationship you were having together, possibly.

8:36 Adam Well, I'm curious about the pregnancy question because if you guys hadn't had sex in a number of years.

8:42 Drew They had it again recently, right?

8:45 No, I think she had an abortion.

8:49 Adam Three years ago? Oh, okay.

8:51 Drew So why are you asking the question now?

8:54 Well, because I want to know if it was possibly to be mine.

8:58 Drew What drugs are you doing right now?

9:00 I'm not doing any. I'm in the program right now.

9:03 Drew You're in the program? Have you talked to people in the program about all this?

9:06 Yeah.

9:07 Drew All right, good.

9:08 Adam What were you doing?

9:11 Crack and cocaine and drinking a lot.

9:14 Adam Okay. So you're sober now?

9:16 Yeah.

9:17 Adam How long have you been sober?

9:19 Almost nine months.

9:20 Adam Okay, good.

9:21 Drew Everything. You're not taking anything?

9:23 Nothing.

9:24 Adam Are you working?

9:25 Yeah.

9:26 Adam What do you do?

9:27 I'm a roofer.

9:28 Adam Good times. Oh, that's a horrible job. Oh, I hate that job, roofing.

9:33 Stabbing Westward. You guys rule, by the way.

9:37 Drew Put a little positive spin on the roof. Yeah, he listens to Stabbing Westward while he's roofing.

9:41 Adam Hey, John.

9:42 Yeah.

9:42 Adam Okay, so you stick with your rehab and you talk to your counselors and you don't do any drugs and, you know, I get your life in order.

9:50 I don't mess up right now.

9:52 Drew What?

9:52 I feel like that's maybe my fault. I had contributed to that.

9:55 Drew To what? Your cousin?

9:57 I don't know how to make amends.

9:58 Drew Your cousin?

9:59 Yeah.

9:59 Drew What's your sponsor say in terms of making amends?

10:03 That I just have to do that for myself, basically. And what she does with the rest of her life is on her.

10:11 Drew It's true. It's true.

10:12 Adam I've got to get me one of those sponsors.

10:14 Drew And I actually wonder.

10:14 Adam Don't worry about it. Look out for yourself.

10:16 Drew Well, I actually wonder whether or not she had been sexually abused. And maybe she sexually abused you possibly. Maybe that's how it got started. Because kids don't sexually abuse at the time.

10:24 Adam Okay, but here's the bottom line with this kid. What you did to her was wrong and it certainly didn't help. But growing up in the hell hole known as her family with her crazy mom and God knows what kind of dad, she was destined for a life of trouble anyway. Yeah, you may have played a part in it.

10:42 Drew Yeah, you definitely did. You definitely did.

10:44 Adam But we know with this mom-

10:47 Drew Why don't you make amends, I think making amends as best you can. And what about taking her to some meetings? Is she a drug addict now?

10:53 She's like 19.

10:54 Drew Is she a drug addict?

10:55 Yeah.

10:56 Drew Yeah, take her to some meetings. Maybe you can be part of her recovery. Yes, you are part of her disease, but maybe you can be part of the solution too.

11:02 Stabbing Westward But definitely focus on yourself first.

11:04 Drew Yeah.

11:04 Adam Hey, listen, everybody, you know what you can do. I know this sounds corny and tripe, but sometimes the best thing you can do for other people is get your own ass in order.

11:14 Stabbing Westward Oh, yes.

11:15 Drew Oh, yes.

11:16 Adam Don't be the cousin or uncle who's in jail. Be the one who can loan them 500 bucks if they get their car impounded or something.

11:26 Stabbing Westward Set the example.

11:27 Adam Be that guy. Yeah. Natalia?

11:31 Yeah.

11:31 Adam You're 19?

11:32 Caller Uh-huh.

11:33 Adam What's up?

11:34 Caller Well, about a week ago, I had a one night stand. Well, I was hoping it wouldn't be a one night stand, but it ended up being a one night stand with another guy. And I called him a few days later and my number was blocked.

11:47 Stabbing Westward When you say another guy, what do you mean?

11:50 Caller Well, I mean, I'm not in a relationship, but I am sleeping with someone else. And then I went and slept with this guy.

11:57 Drew But you wanted something with this guy.

11:59 Caller Yeah.

11:59 Drew And your number was blocked because he blocked all numbers that he couldn't read? You know, you couldn't get a...

12:05 Caller I don't know. He had to have blocked my specific number.

12:08 Drew You're fat.

12:09 Adam Oh, Drew, please. We don't know that. But yeah, maybe he had a girlfriend. Maybe he was sleeping with someone too.

12:17 Caller I don't know. He never mentioned anything.

12:19 Drew Did you tell him?

12:20 Adam Usually it's the first thing a guy will mention before he tries to get your panties off. He never mentioned anything. Yeah, I could have slipped this line.

12:28 Caller But I called him from my cell phone and he picked up and I said, you know, what's up? And he made some lame excuse, oh, I have to go to work now. And I was like, okay, whatever. So I was really upset about the whole thing. And one of my friends called him and he said, you didn't block my number. And then I left him a message just saying, you know, call me, let me know what's up. I'm not going to be mad. If you don't want to talk to me more, that's cool. Just let me know. And he just never called. And I want to know if I should confront him.

12:54 Drew No, assume that is, listen, that is his message. I don't want to talk anymore.

12:59 Stabbing Westward A cowardly way to deliver it.

13:01 Adam Yeah, but when somebody says, look, I don't care. Just tell him if you don't want to talk. Not calling back is a way not to talk. It's a very efficient way not to talk. And by the way, one of the better ways not to talk is not to talk.

13:13 Drew And the reason he's doing that is that I don't care bit.

13:17 Adam Oh, listen.

13:18 Drew We don't buy that.

13:19 Adam I don't care doesn't mean it means it doesn't mean you try to call him from the cell phone and have your friends call and call radio station and the block number and all that other nonsense. He's probably seeing somebody and is freaked out that some remnant from a little weekend fling is coming back to haunt him. And by the way, you're sleeping with somebody, so what's up with you?

13:40 Caller Uh, what do you mean what's up with me?

13:44 Adam See, that's it.

13:45 Caller It's not like a serious relationship. It's kind of like friends with benefits type things.

13:49 Drew Is that what he thinks?

13:51 Caller Uh, yeah.

13:53 Adam Is this an ex-boyfriend or something?

13:55 Caller No.

13:55 Drew No, this is an ex-friend.

13:57 Caller We were never in a relationship together.

13:58 Drew Wait a minute. This is the guy that's been detailing her van for the last couple years. Finally got it where he wanted it.

14:03 Adam This guy likes you, the guy you're sleeping with, though, right?

14:07 Caller Yeah.

14:07 Adam Yeah, I mean, he'd like to be more than maintenance?

14:12 Caller I think he would.

14:12 Drew Let's be honest here, no, don't. Please, come on.

14:15 Adam Why don't you let the guy off the hook?

14:17 Drew Get rid of him. If you're going to... Look how you feel right now.

14:22 Stabbing Westward And you just met this guy?

14:23 Drew Yeah, this other guy's been pining for you for years, probably, or certainly months, and you're stringing him along as a maintenance agreement. That's not right. Okay. Well, she's not going to do a thing.

14:35 Stabbing Westward Maybe if you actually like somebody and you actually want to have something more than just sex with them once, you should nurture that beyond the first night, not have sex with them the first night, and then maybe nurture it for a week or so and see if something develops beyond.

14:50 Adam Well, next time.

14:52 Drew All right.

14:54 Adam Listen, you live by the sword, you die by the sword, baby. I don't feel sorry for her, because I know she has this poor guy who's pining away for her, who's been friends with her, trying to get in her pants for years now, and she's got him on maintenance. All right, Natalia.

15:11 Drew What goes around comes around.

15:12 Adam What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

15:15 Drew OK.

15:15 Adam All right. Later. She knows what she's doing. Listen, some people treat relationships or sex like shelter, which is if you're moving from your apartment, you sure as hell better have your next apartment furnished and have the deposit down on the place before you can move. I mean, you're not going to spend a week outside in the park or on the lawn.

15:39 Stabbing Westward Absolutely.

15:40 Adam And people who can get away with it and god, I wish I was one of those people who could have done this when I was 19. You know, they just slide from one to the next to the next and they'll keep one going, they'll string it along and make sure everything's in place. Like she would have kept this guy she's currently with.

15:57 Stabbing Westward Yeah.

15:57 Adam She would have kept him around for a few more weeks until she solidified this new guy and then she would have slid over there.

16:04 Stabbing Westward She will keep this guy around until she solidifies the next guy.

16:07 Adam That is absolutely right.

16:09 Stabbing Westward I did that for 15 years.

16:11 Adam Nonstop. I think we should hear something from Stabbing Westward.

16:15 Drew I agree.

16:15 Adam You ready, Drew?

16:16 Drew Yep.

16:17 Adam This is off the CD, which will not be out until May 22nd, by the way. But when it does come out, you'll hear this on it.

16:25 It's called So Far Away.

20:25 Adam There's another good one from Stabbing Westward. Our guest tonight, Stabbing Westward, is also the name of the CD, which will be out May 22nd, and they'll also be at the Roxy out here, the Fabulous Roxy on Sunset Strip. Tomorrow, also we'll give you some more dates and places you can find them coming up. Let's just take one more call before we go to break.

20:48 Drew Still not yet on hold.

20:49 Adam Oh, really?

20:49 Drew There he is. There he is.

20:50 Adam Matt?

20:51 Yeah.

20:52 Adam You're 18?

20:53 Caller Yep.

20:53 Adam What's up?

20:54 Stabbing Westward I just had a question for Stabbing Westward.

20:57 Stabbing Westward What's up?

20:59 Stabbing Westward On the end sessions when you guys played for Seattle, the acoustic songs, who played the piano intro for What Do I Have to Do?

21:06 Stabbing Westward Andy.

21:08 Stabbing Westward Andy. Man, that really, really got to me. You guys have been like my all-time favorite band. All your songs have been like the soundtrack to my life.

21:16 Stabbing Westward I'm sorry about that.

21:18 Stabbing Westward It's some really, really touching stuff and I heard the news of like, wow, this sounds like my life about three months ago.

21:24 Stabbing Westward Cool.

21:25 Stabbing Westward It's some really good stuff.

21:26 Stabbing Westward Are you hitting on some happier times?

21:29 Stabbing Westward Actually, I am. The past three months of my life have been the happiest months. Before that, it was all rough. It's just really good stuff, you guys. I've missed you every time you guys have come to Portland, Oregon. Hopefully, I'll catch you guys when you come again.

21:40 Stabbing Westward We are going to be there on my birthday, May 18th.

21:43 Stabbing Westward Really?

21:44 Adam Yes, sir.

21:44 Stabbing Westward Is it 21 or over?

21:45 Stabbing Westward I have no idea.

21:47 Stabbing Westward I've got to catch it.

21:49 Adam Well, listen, get a fake ID. Why not?

21:52 Drew Yeah, tell them Adam sent you.

21:55 Stabbing Westward Just come to the club in the afternoon when we're doing soundcheck and we'll get you in and you can watch soundcheck if nothing else.

22:00 Stabbing Westward Really?

22:01 Stabbing Westward Yeah, just tell me you met me on Loveline.

22:04 Stabbing Westward All right.

22:04 Stabbing Westward Cool.

22:05 Adam All right, Matt.

22:05 Drew Take care, Matt.

22:06 Adam Thanks. All right, we're going to take a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Ryan whose 21-girlfriend is pregnant, six months, wants to know if it's okay to have sex with her. All that after this.

22:18 Caller Loveline. Loveline. We'll be right back.

22:51 Hi, this is Janine Garofalo.

22:52 Any of you have ever wondered if there's people that are way worse off than you?

22:55 Caller Listen to Loveline.

22:57 Adam That's Janine Garofalo everybody.

22:58 Drew She's referring specifically to Adam, I think. Right?

23:02 Adam I hope not, I really do.

23:04 Drew Hi, nice to meet you. I'm Adam Corolla. Adam, I've been on your radio show twice, TV show once.

23:08 Stabbing Westward Do you think Janine's hot?

23:09 Adam No. But even if she was, or if I did think she was, I wouldn't have remembered her. I'm an equal opportunist that way.

23:18 Stabbing Westward I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I actually find Janine Graff a little attractive in a bizarre kind of way. Why would that be surprising?

23:24 Adam I'll give her attractive. I just won't upgrade her to hot. Know what I'm saying?

23:30 Stabbing Westward Okay.

23:30 Adam Is it her personalities? Is it her sense of humor?

23:33 Stabbing Westward I think it's a little bit of everything. It's the frumpishness combined with, is that a word?

23:38 Adam Frumpishness.

23:39 Stabbing Westward Yeah. Combined with the bizarre bitter sense of humor. Yeah.

23:43 Adam It's always weird. It's always funny with guys and ladies. Listen up. Here's how you know the difference. When guys hear another guy talking about a girl and her personality factors in, and the other guys are confused. You mean you're saying because she's the surgeon general, that's a factor that makes her more attractive? Really? Because the beauty-

24:06 Drew Whenever the guys are just pigs, there it is.

24:08 Adam But the beauty of guys, and I think most guys would agree on this, which is if one girl was nine and the other girl was a six and a half or seven, and the girl who was a nine was 19, went to Valley College and lived at home, and the girl who was a six and a half or seven was a very prominent attorney, they'd be with the nine who lived at home.

24:32 Drew If the guy was 23, hands down. The guy was a 23-year-old, a 35-year-old male, I don't think so.

24:38 Stabbing Westward Attorney. Would go with the attorney, but once they would leave the attorney six years later and go with the 19-year-old.

24:44 Adam That's what I was about to say. The 35-year-old guy, once he hit his 40th birthday, would go back to the 19-year-old.

24:50 Stabbing Westward Absolutely.

24:51 Adam Stabbing Westward is here. We will hear more from them. The new CD, which will be out May 22nd, in the next hour, and as promised, we'll speak to Ryan, who's 21. Ryan, what's up?

25:04 Nothing much. How are you guys doing?

25:05 Good.

25:06 Adam Your girlfriend is pregnant, six months? Correct. You want to know when you can stop having sex with her or if you can start?

25:14 No.

25:15 I want to know if there was any damage that would come in the child.

25:18 Drew Well, not unless you infect her with something.

25:20 Right.

25:21 Adam Right.

25:22 Just the thrusting motion won't hurt the child at all.

25:25 Drew Depends. I guess how-

25:27 Stabbing Westward You're not abnormally large, are you?

25:28 Drew Yeah, but nothing in the ordinary realm should cause any problems. However, if she's having any complications with pregnancy, any bleeding or preterm labor or anything like that, then definitely I would avoid and talk to a doctor about it.

25:39 Actually, she has had quite a few complications during this pregnancy.

25:42 Drew What she had?

25:44 November 23rd of 2000, she had a miscarriage.

25:47 Drew That's not this pregnancy.

25:49 But two weeks later, she was pregnant again. Yeah. She has become bulimic since she got pregnant.

25:56 She is now an asthmatic.

25:58 Drew Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now wait a minute. Bulimic. She's willfully vomiting?

26:02 No, I'm sorry. Not bulimic. Anemic.

26:04 Drew Anemic.

26:05 Anemic, yes.

26:06 Drew Well, anemic. Okay. Is she taking iron supplements or what not properly?

26:09 Doctor put her on iron.

26:10 Drew All right. So she wasn't taking adequate iron. She became anemic. That's not a big deal.

26:14 She's hypertension.

26:16 Drew So she's got preeclampsia.

26:18 Adam What's that?

26:19 Drew That's the hypertension fluid retention leads to seizures and all kinds of problems. So the high blood pressure and you say she's edematous too? She's swelling?

26:28 She's what?

26:29 Drew Swelling.

26:30 Caller Swelling.

26:30 Drew Is she swelling? Her feet and all?

26:32 Not really.

26:34 Adam Why don't you play it safe and just get a BJ? That's what I see. That's my thing with chicks. When in doubt, go the BJ route. That's my saying. I don't want to hurt anybody.

26:44 Drew If it doesn't fit, got to quit.

26:46 All right. Also, another question, though, for Stabbing Westward. You guys come into Sacramento with a Blue Oyster Cult tour.

26:54 I heard about it on 98 Rock.

26:57 Adam It's not that. It's a different cult.

26:58 Stabbing Westward It's the cult.

27:00 There's a difference between the cult and Blue Oyster Cult.

27:04 Stabbing Westward One doesn't fear the reaper and the other one's still alive making music.

27:07 Drew I was going to say a Blue Oyster Cult. I'm surprised anyone can remember that. But Ryan, anyway, it's possible you can continue your relationship sexually, but I would talk to the doctor about it before I proceeded. There's nothing specific about what you've described that prevents that from being okay.

27:22 Stabbing Westward The spooning position. Spooning position? Yeah, you lay behind her on your side and her on her side and spoon and go at it that way.

27:29 Drew Adam has a different name for that.

27:30 Stabbing Westward There's not a belly in the way.

27:32 Adam Nice. What is that?

27:34 Sounds interesting.

27:34 Drew That's Doggie.

27:35 Adam Yeah.

27:37 Stabbing Westward Doggie is vertical. This is on your side laying down, spooning. Two spoons in a drawer.

27:41 Adam That's what I say. Fork her doing the spoon.

27:46 Stabbing Westward Spork.

27:47 Adam Give her the spork. Let's compromise and spork the hell out of her. All right, Ryan. Good times there, buddy. All right.

27:54 Good times, Adam.

27:55 Adam All right. Listen, anyone who doesn't know the difference between the Colt and Blue Oyster Colt should not be a father.

27:59 Hey, at least I know where Led Zeppelin is from.

28:01 Adam All right.

28:02 Drew He's not trying to be a father.

28:04 Adam Junior high. Come on. How was I supposed to know? Kids sassy.

28:13 Drew He's the evening DJ from Sacramento affiliate.

28:18 Adam They started doing the songs like Hot Dog and stuff, in through the outdoor. That didn't sound like an English band to me. What was I supposed to know? Jason?

28:29 Yeah.

28:29 Adam You're 18?

28:30 Caller Yep.

28:30 Adam What's up?

28:32 Caller I wanted to get some advice on whether or not I should get into a relationship with a girl. The problem is, I like her a whole lot, but she's homeless willingly. She could live with her mom, but she's way too independent and she just doesn't want to have to rely on that.

28:48 Drew Well, whoa, Jason. You're living in some world of denial here.

28:52 Adam Nice spin, though.

28:53 Drew Yeah, that's a nice spin, but let's get with what really happens with human beings, okay? People don't live out on the street. How old is she?

29:02 She's 18, too.

29:02 Drew People don't live out on the street unless something egregious is going on in the home, or they have real significant problems. Someone that has a family, that has connections, has resources, who is now away, who runs away quite literally. That's a very serious situation.

29:19 Adam Well, she's a proud woman, Drew.

29:21 She's trying to get an apartment.

29:22 Drew Why doesn't she get a job when she gets an apartment then?

29:24 Caller Well, it's because she just got her new job and she's saving up money.

29:28 Drew What is her job?

29:32 Caller She basically answers phones, she gets paid a lot for it. She's paid a lot?

29:35 Drew She's a sex operator or something?

29:37 Caller I'm not exactly sure what it is. She just told me that it pays well and she just does it.

29:42 Drew She's just BS-ing the hell out of you. I'm totally missing from this story.

29:46 Caller Her mom took her down to get the job.

29:48 Adam Okay. Well, how did you meet her?

29:50 Caller I met her my freshman year in high school. I've known her for like four years.

29:53 Drew Is she addicted to some drugs?

29:55 Caller No. She does pot, but that's about it and drinks.

30:02 Adam Where is she now? Is she living on the street?

30:05 Caller Yeah. For the next week, she's going to be staying at her mom's house. But after that, she's probably going to be back to her.

30:13 Adam Does she like you?

30:16 Drew This doesn't make any sense, Jason. What was her dad like?

30:20 Caller She doesn't know her real dad.

30:21 Drew What were her step dads like?

30:24 Caller He's kind of an ass, but he's not like real physically abusive or anything like that.

30:30 Drew What kind of abuse is he rendering?

30:32 Caller I'm not exactly sure. She doesn't really talk about it. She just doesn't like him.

30:36 Drew How long has she been on the street?

30:39 Caller Probably about a month now.

30:43 Drew So it's not as though she's been out there for months and months?

30:45 Adam No, a month is pretty good.

30:47 Caller She lived down in Oregon with I think her grandparents.

30:50 Drew Yeah, she ran away from home. This is the point. She's running away from home. This is serious crap.

30:56 Adam Jason, what's your situation beside not being able to get laid? Because this is an act of a desperate man. Scrape some chick up off the sidewalk.

31:06 Caller Go ahead. I'm just fine, actually. I'm in high school. I live with my parents. I plan on doing some college after I get out of high school. I'm going to get a new job this summer that's a heck of a lot more.

31:20 Adam Here's the deal, Jason. Do not get her pregnant because she's a troubled person and she comes from a troubled place and she will be trouble for you. I'm not going to tell him not to get into it.

31:34 Drew No, I'm not going to say that either.

31:35 Adam Don't do anything long-term.

31:36 Drew But what you can say is he is not assessing this situation in reality at all.

31:40 Adam He's 18.

31:41 Drew Yeah, but this woman, listen, a 17-year-old on the street, how do they get by? That management phone is making a lot of money. How do they get by?

31:49 Caller They spange.

31:51 Adam She's prostitution or selling drugs or just paying hand length.

31:55 Caller Not into prostitution. She hates those people.

31:57 Adam Okay.

31:58 Drew But she hangs out with them.

32:00 Caller No.

32:01 Adam Okay. Jason? Yeah. You have my half-hearted blessing. But I'm telling you, don't get her pregnant and watch out when the drama comes.

32:11 Drew Know that this story that you're getting is extraordinarily distorted and start digging for what makes sense. None of this makes any sense.

32:18 Adam It shouldn't just have some sex and try not to talk to her.

32:21 Drew Well, just so he understands what's going on. He's got this, I've known her for a year. She's my big buddy. She's choosing to be on the street. Start being more realistic about who this person is. You can help her. You can have a relationship with her. I have no problem with that. I have a problem with the distortion, the denial you're living in.

32:35 Caller All right.

32:36 Adam Sorry, Jason.

32:37 Caller Adam, since you're like one of my heroes, I am very honored for your blessing.

32:41 Adam Thank you.

32:42 Drew He's a quasi blessing now.

32:44 Adam Yes. I'm like the Pope except for it's remove the P and put a D in there.

32:50 Stabbing Westward Pode?

32:51 Adam Wait. Remove the P and put it. No, dope. I'm just taking that. Oh, that P. Yeah, wrong P. You're right. I should have clarified which P. Yeah, Pode. That's a very good point. Thank you. Drew, why didn't you catch that? People could have been calling me Pode.

33:07 Drew You guys lost me.

33:08 Adam Drew stops listening. You know what happens with Drew is, I know what happens, we should do like a cartoon where I go, whenever I do this declaration where I go, well, listen, let me tell you the kind of guy I am. Immediately, Drew hears a soundtrack from Fiddler on the Roof. He just starts, if I were a rich man. I think he looks at me and he sees my mouth moving. When it stops, he knows it's okay for him to continue on. But I don't think he hears. Drew, because if you had to listen for five years when I made all those, let me tell you about high school football. I'll tell you the kind of breed of cat I am. If you didn't tune out, you'd be locked up, you'd be institutionalized.

33:47 Drew It's like the Blue Danube and that opening soon for 2001 with the satellites and the ship's docking. That's what's in my head.

33:56 Adam I don't even think you hear blah, blah, blah anymore.

33:57 Drew No, it's the Blue Danube.

33:59 Adam Two years ago, you're hearing the blah, blah, blah.

34:00 Drew Yeah, sure.

34:01 Adam Now it's nothing. It's just the Blue Danube. Jackie?

34:05 Caller Yeah?

34:05 Adam You're 19?

34:06 Caller Yep.

34:07 Adam What's up?

34:08 Caller Okay, I've been dating this guy for about nine months, and I lost my virginity to him, but he slept with 15 people before me, and he keeps on talking about it, and he hangs out with the last girl he slept with, and it's really starting to bug me.

34:23 Drew How old is he?

34:24 Adam Huh?

34:25 Drew How old is he?

34:26 Caller He's going to be 20 soon.

34:27 Drew He's one of those guys we were talking about during the break. Yeah, yeah.

34:31 Caller So it really bugs me, and I told him, and he kind of just like doesn't even think anything about it. He's just like, she's my friend, but he slept with her the week that we've met, and he's just like, don't worry about it. I'm in love with you. You're the only person. And it's just like...

34:46 Drew I don't believe it. I don't believe him.

34:48 Caller Like he went over there on Friday and like spent the night there.

34:53 Stabbing Westward Ooh, he's sleeping with her.

34:55 Adam This guy hasn't banged 16 chicks without getting laid. You know what I mean? That's what he does. I'll just sleep on the couch. Sure.

35:03 Drew And even from the standpoint of his lack of respect or lack of concern for your feelings, that by itself is disturbing, but the fact that he's really in a situation which virtually guarantees he's up to something. Right.

35:15 Caller And it's hard for me though because he's the first guy I've slept with.

35:19 Adam Yeah.

35:20 Drew Bad choice. I know.

35:21 Caller Bad choice. I thought I could handle it when I first met him because he was honest off the bat. And he is honest.

35:29 Drew Until you started freaking out, now he's starting to back away from that honesty a little bit, right?

35:33 Caller I'm starting to make excuses for him, like saying, well, he's not doing anything.

35:37 Drew Jackie, you know better than this. Come on. Let's just chalk this one up to a bad choice. Don't waste more time and get more pain because of this.

35:45 Caller Right.

35:46 Adam Yeah. I mean, he slept over at her house.

35:49 Caller Yeah. And she has a kid.

35:51 Drew See, this is the thing.

35:52 Adam Probably humping the kid, too.

35:54 Drew The other thing that most sane women will do is that they'll go for this alpha male thing, go, oh, enough of that, quickly, and then go for guys they're better put together.

36:02 Adam But a 19-year-old who held on to her virginity for a long time by today's standards, and then gave it up to a guy, most women, that virginity is a big deal, and I think they want to try to have some type of relationship with that guy just for historical documentation so they can say, I was with the guy, when they're yelling at their kid, I was with him for four years. He died in Vietnam. That's the only reason, you know what I'm saying?

36:34 Stabbing Westward If that's the case, she gave it the old college try.

36:36 Drew But don't try to convert this guy into that guy because he ain't going there.

36:41 Stabbing Westward You got Russell Crowe. You want Tom Hanks.

36:43 Drew That's it. All right.

36:45 Stabbing Westward All right.

36:45 Drew All right.

36:46 Stabbing Westward Thanks.

36:47 Bye.

36:48 Adam We'll take ourselves a little break. Stabbing Westward is here and we'll be back with them and you after this.

36:56 Caller Loveline, we'll be right back. Call on the 1-800-LOVE-191.

37:34 Drew Hold on, we're going to talk a little bit. I think the mics are on here, Adam.

37:37 Stabbing Westward Welcome back to Loveline.

37:39 Adam Oh, Anderson, you gave me the finger, huh?

37:41 Drew So to speak.

37:42 Adam Drifted off. Derek Hawkins and Christopher Hall are both here from Stabbing Westward. The CD, Stabbing Westward, will be out on May 22nd. I'll give you guys some dates and some places you can find them. They're going to be at the Roxy tomorrow night out here in Los Angeles, San Francisco on the 15th, Seattle 17th, Portland 18th, Vancouver 19th, Chicago 22nd, hometown, Detroit 23rd, 26th, Boston, 28th of May, Washington DC., then the 29th, Pittsburgh, Philly, Birmingham, Alabama, and Atlanta. So these guys are going to be around. And if you're anywhere near there in the next month, go out and find them. And then with the Colt, Colt UK, not the blue oyster Colt, this summer. All right, Drew?

38:33 Drew Yep.

38:33 Adam You all right?

38:34 Drew I'm great.

38:34 Adam You ready to go?

38:35 Drew Yeah.

38:35 Adam All right, let's talk to Monica. It's 27, Monica.

38:39 Hey you guys, how are you?

38:41 Adam Good.

38:41 Caller Hello. Hi. First of all, I wanted to say that you guys are doing a great service to the community, even on those nights where you feel like it's not worth it. I've needed your advice many, many times.

38:56 Drew Oh, good, Monica. What's going on tonight?

38:57 Adam Those nights are Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday, by the way, the not worth it nights.

39:03 Drew Yeah. Yeah, good. Yeah.

39:05 Caller So, I have a question for you, Dr. Drew. I've heard you talking to other people who've had behavioral disorders that involve like pulling your hair. Whenever you ask them like if they've ever like taken it to a really serious level and they say no, I'm dying to know what that means because when I was 10 years old, from like when I was 9 to 11, I would say, I went through this horrible period where I would pull all of my facial hair out. Like I would pull all my eyelashes out, everything. And my parents would take me to doctors and ask them why my facial hair was falling out. And I would even say, Mom, Mom, I'm pulling it out. And she'd be like, Monica, be quiet. I'm talking to the doctor.

40:00 Drew Well, there's why you're pulling it out.

40:01 Adam That's the reason you're pulling it out.

40:02 Drew Right there. There you go. We would also expect there to be some eating issues, too.

40:07 Adam Disorder?

40:09 Caller Do I have an eating disorder?

40:10 Drew Did you have one?

40:11 Caller At that time, no.

40:12 Drew Well, eventually, did you have one?

40:14 Caller Well, yeah, but I think that was because of something else.

40:17 Drew No, that's because of this mom.

40:19 Adam You know what?

40:20 Drew Hang on a second. Hold on.

40:21 Adam You know what I love about our callers is they go ahead and explain the prom and then we both, like, simultaneously go, we would expect an eating disorder, too.

40:28 Stabbing Westward But that was from something else.

40:29 Adam They discount it. At that time? No. Then we go, no, no, just an eating disorder. Sometime after that, well, yeah, but not because of that.

40:38 Stabbing Westward We're going to buy that?

40:39 Adam We're going to go, okay, we're both wrong on our instincts as far as that goes.

40:43 Stabbing Westward You didn't even look at each other and say it though.

40:45 Adam No.

40:46 Caller Well, shortly after that, I developed diabetes and then I went on like this crazy eating disorder just to spite my body.

40:52 Drew Well, that's a common thing that diabetics do is they act out in all kinds of interesting ways. But really what we're getting at here as a mom that invalidates you so thoroughly or intrudes upon you and doesn't really acknowledge your feelings or your needs even to the point where you're describing why you're tearing the hair or that you're just tearing the hair out of your face and she won't even allow that to be brought to the surface. No, no, you're not, Monica. Yes, I am. No, you're not. Shut up while I talk to the doctor about what your real problems are. And that's really, that's her. That's not about you. It's about her. And those kinds of intrusive, annihilating moms really cause a lot of problems in people's emotional development. Not that she's a bad person. It's not a quality parent, not just doing the parenting properly. And so trichotillomania and eating disorder, these kinds of things can certainly grow out of that.

41:40 Adam But two things. One, were you enrolled in dance class early?

41:44 Drew Yeah. Yeah, we would have, well, listen, you can hear it, Monica. No, no, not only were you, you're an excellent student, right? Of all that stuff? No. No, no.

41:54 Adam No dance.

41:54 Caller No, I wasn't.

41:55 Adam No dance?

41:56 Caller I was, she, my parents enrolled me in many classes when I was younger. Dance, piano, tennis. I hated all of them.

42:04 Adam Got that vibe, yeah.

42:05 Caller Yeah.

42:06 Adam All right. Well, now, so your initial question was, when you talk about this disease and Drew says it hasn't gotten bad, I don't remember you.

42:15 Drew I never said that.

42:16 Adam I don't remember Drew saying that.

42:17 Drew Yeah, I don't know what you're picking up on it, what you're getting at, but that's not a question I would ask.

42:22 Caller OK, maybe that was just my interpretation.

42:23 Drew Yeah. I'm just asking, what do you do?

42:25 Caller I see.

42:26 Adam All right. So are things under control?

42:28 Caller Well, every now and then, I'll find myself still kind of pulling at my eyelashes. When I realize I'm doing it, I stop. But I just, I mean.

42:39 Adam Why don't you focus on your bikini area during the summer months and see if we can't turn lemons into lemonade?

42:46 Drew Also, I would just realize, recognize that this is how your body deals with certain kinds of emotional distress. And when you start engaging these behaviors, realize, start to tune in to what's going on. Am I anxious? Am I depressed? What am I trying to manage with these old behaviors that I have had no other way of managing them with?

43:03 Adam All right. Brent?

43:05 Yes, I'm right here.

43:05 Adam You're 22. What's up?

43:07 Caller I'm 22.

43:07 Caller I just got a quick question, Dr. Drew.

43:12 Caller I smoked a joint with my friends past weekend and I don't smoke at all. I was just wearing, it was mixed with tobacco, it was half a joint and it was just five, six hits or whatever. How long was I going to stay in my system?

43:23 Drew Why is that so important to you?

43:25 Caller I'm in a job where I can't have anything in my system.

43:28 Drew Airline pilot?

43:30 Caller No, government. I work for the government. How about that?

43:33 Drew CIA?

43:34 Adam No, military.

43:35 Caller You got another question, weirdo?

43:37 Drew Bring it on.

43:37 Caller Hurry up.

43:39 Get it on my face right now.

43:41 Caller Push, push, push you nasty thing.

43:45 Drew Man, those guys, they stayed with me all weekend.

43:46 Adam Those are the drill instructors from boot camp are in here last Thursday.

43:50 Drew They were awesome. They were awesome.

43:52 Adam They're great guys, screaming at everyone who called in. Hey, Brent. Yeah. You smoked a little weed how long ago?

43:59 It was like last night, I think.

44:00 Adam How often do you get tested?

44:02 Stabbing Westward It was last night, I think.

44:03 Drew I would think that if it were just a small exposure, it certainly should be gone in about 48 to 72 hours. I really wouldn't expect it. Eat properly. Don't exercise excessively and don't try to lose weight. Because if there's any staying around the fat, it might get liberated. I doubt it. I think you're good at 72 hours.

44:20 Caller Excellent.

44:21 Stabbing Westward Drink some cranberry juice.

44:22 Caller One more thing, Stabbing Westward, you guys rock. I'm going to see you guys in Tucson on the 17th of that KFM 8A.

44:27 Stabbing Westward Right on.

44:27 Adam Thanks, man.

44:28 Caller All right, guys.

44:29 Adam Thanks a lot, man. All right, Brent. Good times there, buddy. Let's see if we can squeeze one in for a break. Suzanne?

44:35 Yes?

44:35 Adam You're 12?

44:36 Caller Yeah, I am.

44:37 Adam Oh, baby. What's up?

44:39 Don't make fun of me.

44:41 Caller I have problems with paranoia. Okay. What happens to me is-

44:44 Adam What word was that? Paranoia. Paranoia. Okay.

44:47 Stabbing Westward You're insane.

44:48 Caller I'm not insane. If I go to the mall or something, sometimes I feel like even though nobody's looking at me, nobody's talking about me, like people- I know they're talking whatever, and I'm like, oh my god, they're talking about me.

45:01 Stabbing Westward Hey, Suzanne. What color is your hair?

45:04 Caller Dark brown.

45:05 Stabbing Westward Just natural?

45:06 Caller Yeah.

45:07 Stabbing Westward How do you dress?

45:09 Caller Well, actually, I'm kind of changing my dress style right now.

45:12 Stabbing Westward I mean, do you dress really conservative or kind of wild?

45:18 Caller I'm in between.

45:19 Drew You wouldn't evoke people to actually begin speaking of you.

45:22 Caller I'm fat.

45:23 Drew Well, Suzanne, do you do speed or anything like that?

45:26 Caller No. I suck a little pot, but...

45:28 Drew All right. Well, this could be a lot of different things. It could be a social phobia, meaning you're in a crowd in the open spaces with people that can make you feel very uncomfortable and anxious. It could be a panic or anxiety disorder. It could be agoraphobia, which is fear of open spaces and, again, crowds sometimes. And it could be a beginning of some other kinds of paranoid disturbance. But right now, if you want to see some about it, that's fine. Maybe just sort of learn to function, be with friends, make connected relationships. Focus on being with friends, I think, right now.

45:58 Adam People are scared of open spaces. Would they be scared to death to be out on some salt flat somewhere with nothing around them, not a human being around them?

46:07 Drew If I remember right, those diagnostic criteria usually are in open spaces with people.

46:11 Adam Yeah.

46:13 Drew Crowds.

46:13 Adam Right. Well, yeah, nobody. I mean, ever since, you know, there's trouble. I have the soccer stadium things.

46:20 Drew Yeah. No, I hate that.

46:20 Adam The Who concerts and they should be scared of that. All right. Well, so what should she do?

46:26 Drew Well, what I was suggesting is that maybe she needs to be able to manage her feelings. And if she's with friends, she feels her close and connected, intimate with and she can establish those kinds of relationships. Some of this might settle down. If not, she should seek some professional help.

46:36 Adam And go easy on the weed, too, at 12, for Christ's sake. Stabbing Westward is here. We'll be back after this.

46:42 Caller Loveline, Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191, we'll be right back.

47:25 Adam It's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Derek and Christopher are both here from Stabbing Westward.

47:33 Stabbing Westward You ever notice how your soundtrack kind of sounds like a porno, 70s porno flick?

47:38 Yeah.

47:42 Adam This is Cypress Hill, huh? Rage against the machine doing Cypress Hill, love things. Yeah. And we got some other, we got some rock riffs in here too that'll sound un-porn eventually as the night wears on. Stabbing Westward is going to be at the Roxy. Oh, theme to Taboo 2, one of my favorite porn movies ever. He's got it all. Yes, he does. He's banging his mom and his sister.

48:09 Caller He's got it all.

48:10 Adam We will hear something from the band's new CD which is called Stabbing Westward, which will be out May 22nd. In a couple of few. But first, we'll speak to Kim who's 28. Kim?

48:23 Stabbing Westward Hi.

48:24 Adam Hey.

48:24 Stabbing Westward Hey, how you doing?

48:25 Adam Good.

48:26 Stabbing Westward What's up, Adam? How you doing, Dr. Drew?

48:28 Drew Kim?

48:28 Stabbing Westward Hi.

48:29 Adam Hi.

48:30 Stabbing Westward How you doing?

48:30 Stabbing Westward Hey, Kim.

48:31 Yeah. We got that part.

48:32 Stabbing Westward What's up, Stabbing Westward? How you guys doing?

48:34 Stabbing Westward How are you doing, Kim? That's the question. Doing well.

48:36 Stabbing Westward I don't know. I think, I don't know. I'm not doing too good.

48:40 Stabbing Westward Chris, how you doing? I'm doing good.

48:42 Stabbing Westward I'm doing all right. It's just that I kind of have a, it's kind of having a, it's not kind of embarrassing, but it's more like, it's just, oh, it frustrates me more than anything. My little problem that I have is with my boyfriend. And he's, he's been watching pornos behind my back. And I don't know why he feels like he needs to do this.

49:06 Drew Because he's a male?

49:07 Stabbing Westward Well, no. I mean, he can't, no, that is his, you know, that's fine. Like, I don't have any problem with watching pornos at all. And I don't have any problem with him watching pornos.

49:16 Adam It's the fact that he lies about it?

49:18 Yeah, it's the fact.

49:20 Caller I love that about chicks.

49:22 Adam It's not that you slept with my best friend. It's that you lied about, guys would never do that.

49:28 Stabbing Westward Not so much that he lies about it, but the fact that he feels that he needs, you know, that he, I mean, he's going out and he's running like seven at a time and watch him. And then he'll tell me like, we'll be seeing each other, you know, every day for, you know, we'll be getting along and things will be fine, you know, for like two weeks. And then all of a sudden, one night, you know, he'll be like, I don't want to see you tonight or whatever. And then like, yeah, watch all the tapes.

49:53 Adam Yeah.

49:53 Stabbing Westward So, but that's fine. That's fine too. But why can't you just say, look, you know, I feel like watching, you know, well, the reason you can't say that because you'd spin out on it.

50:04 Stabbing Westward Do you remember how embarrassed you were to bring this up on Loveline? He's probably more embarrassed.

50:08 Stabbing Westward I was embarrassed at first, but I feel better like talking about it because I feel like it's just still.

50:12 Adam Okay. Well, listen, here's what he's doing. And I've done this many times. And I think guys do it all the time. They get close. They tolerate intimacy for a period of time. And then they need to retreat into the porn bunker for a while and find themselves as it were.

50:30 Stabbing Westward Have you noticed any abnormal abrasions or blisters or bruising?

50:34 Drew You're just worried that he's doing too much, huh?

50:36 Stabbing Westward No, not even that he's doing too much. It's just because, you know, I don't have anything wrong with pornos. I mean, pornos are great. I like watching pornos, too. But I just don't want him to feel like, you know, I'm sure he's probably, he might be embarrassed. It's not like he's going to come right out and be like, Oh, I've been, you know.

50:53 Adam How do you know he's getting seven at a time?

50:58 Stabbing Westward Well, Adam, the way I kind of had to find out about him.

51:01 Drew Hard to detect.

51:02 Adam Video store. Yeah.

51:03 Stabbing Westward No. Well, it's because actually last year, I found blow up dolls. There were two blow up dolls and it sunk.

51:11 Adam Oh.

51:11 Stabbing Westward Did he have a bachelor's party?

51:13 Stabbing Westward What was that?

51:14 Stabbing Westward Did he have a bachelor's party or something?

51:15 Stabbing Westward No, he didn't.

51:17 Drew That's getting a little weird on us. That's not normal male behavior with a girlfriend.

51:20 Adam Yeah, he had blow up dolls.

51:23 Stabbing Westward Blow up dolls were weird. These things were kind of gnarly because they were like those real life wax dolls, kind of, but the blow up dolls, but their genitalia parts were just so weird.

51:38 Drew You mean these are the really expensive ones that look just like a human?

51:40 Stabbing Westward You know what I mean?

51:42 Adam But in the trunk of his car, I've done this to use the diamond lane before.

51:46 Drew Are you sure? No, no, she described those things from Germany, whatever you showed me the other night.

51:53 Adam You're talking about like the real doll? No, not the real doll.

51:55 Stabbing Westward Not the real wax, like those ones.

51:58 Adam No, listen, blow up dolls, they have the bottom of the line ones, they're like 35 bucks, you might as well hump a pool raft. Then they go all the way up to like the real doll, which is like five, six grand. This is somewhere in between.

52:12 Stabbing Westward Well, yeah, more like...

52:13 Adam This is the Toyota Camry of blow up dolls, sort of the mid-range V6.

52:17 Stabbing Westward Yeah, it looks like a Mazda V6, or something like that. You know, it's...

52:21 Adam Okay, well, okay.

52:23 Stabbing Westward You know, it looks like it would probably, you know, I mean, shoot, I'm sorry, shoot, I just don't think, I mean, I don't know, it's just, it gets kind of even weird.

52:31 Adam All right, all right. Well, we're starting to side with you now.

52:33 Drew Yeah, we're weird now a little bit too.

52:35 Adam Why two and why in the trunk of his car? Was he hiding them from you?

52:39 Stabbing Westward Did he have some fantasy?

52:40 Stabbing Westward No, no, it wasn't like I was freaking out and just had a look in his, you know, was trying, you know.

52:45 Drew Here's what's happening, I think, is that it's not so much that you discovered his porn habit, it's that you've been sort of worried that he has some sort of parallel universe he lives in. You've been worried about this for a while, and you're finding sort of bits and pieces of that creeping into your life with him. And we're a little freaked out too. We were worried also that he's carrying on in some way that just is dishonest or something, something's going on.

53:08 Stabbing Westward What's up with me? I mean, aren't I, you know, I thought I was full, you know, satisfied.

53:16 Drew Don't go down that path.

53:17 Stabbing Westward Okay, because I just, well, of course.

53:20 Stabbing Westward No matter how much lovin a girlfriend gives a guy, he's always going to have to have that special time by himself.

53:26 Drew Yeah, but that special time shouldn't include blow up dolls. Blow up dolls.

53:29 Adam The doll is a problem with things.

53:31 Stabbing Westward I fully respect that, but then why a brown and a blonde has a blow up doll in the trunk?

53:36 Caller What color is your hair?

53:38 Stabbing Westward My hair is brown.

53:38 Stabbing Westward See, maybe he has never had a black woman or a blonde. Maybe he wants to be with you forever, but he's always fantasized about a blonde.

53:46 Adam Hold on, hold on. You know what I love about her, Kim? Kim's like, I understand the blow up doll, but why the blonde? You know, she does this with everything. It's all right with the form, but why?

53:57 Drew Why so much? Why so much?

53:59 Caller Maybe it's because of this.

54:01 Drew The blonde.

54:01 Adam Like, as if he had two brunettes and a trunk, it would be fine.

54:06 Drew Two redheads would be great.

54:07 Adam Right.

54:08 All right.

54:09 Stabbing Westward Have the neighbors started complaining about missing animals or anything like that?

54:12 Stabbing Westward No, it's just, it's, um...

54:14 Drew We're just worried he's up to something else, something more.

54:16 All right.

54:17 Adam Kim?

54:17 Stabbing Westward I don't know. I'm not...

54:19 Adam Okay.

54:19 Stabbing Westward Sounds like a perv.

54:21 Adam Maybe this is it with this relationship.

54:23 Stabbing Westward Do you think so, Adam?

54:24 Adam I think so. It's been going on for two and a half years. He's not getting any better, right?

54:29 Stabbing Westward No. Well, no.

54:31 Adam Okay.

54:32 Stabbing Westward Well, especially with this, it's definitely... I mean, this is kind of... It would definitely put a damper on it.

54:37 Adam Okay. Well, the blow-up dolls have confirmed it for us. Have you talked to him about it? What did he say about the blow-up dolls?

54:45 Stabbing Westward Of course. Every time... I mean, you know, he's embarrassed at first and so he gets, you know, kind of peeled at first at me for bringing it up to him because...

54:54 Drew That's a bad behavior.

54:56 Adam What did he say about the blow-up dolls?

54:58 Stabbing Westward He said that he... Oh, that... Because he used to have roommates and stuff, whatever, because his mom ran out of room... They ran out of room, whatever, and they had roommates, and he was throwing them away.

55:12 Drew One of the roommates had been killed before the parents came to clear the apartment. He had to get that all out of him.

55:18 Stabbing Westward Because he had planned on throwing them away in a dumpster somewhere, whatever, and I was like... So shocked that I was like, kind of like, whoa, my god, okay, okay, well, that's fine, whatever, believe them, you know, why shouldn't I believe them, you know?

55:29 Drew Because it's BS.

55:31 Stabbing Westward But then again, then I find out.

55:34 Adam Okay, Kim, why are you so, you're like, why are you so naive slash paranoid at age 28?

55:39 Stabbing Westward I don't know.

55:40 Adam I mean, you sound like someone who's very uncomfortable in your own skin. Like, you don't know how to gauge people, you're not sure who's lying to you. Where's your spidey sense? You know what I mean? Where's your vibe? Don't you get the vibes off of people?

55:54 Stabbing Westward Yeah.

55:55 Adam You're with this guy for two and a half years, you don't know him?

55:58 Stabbing Westward I know. Well, if he doesn't exactly want to see me.

56:00 Adam Did your dad cheat on your mom?

56:02 Stabbing Westward No, not at all.

56:02 Adam He's a good guy?

56:04 Stabbing Westward He left. Is he a good guy?

56:06 Adam Your dad, yeah.

56:06 Stabbing Westward Oh, my dad. My dad is, hold on. You see, the thing about it is I don't want to turn it into a dramatic thing or anything, but my real dad is, I don't really know him that well. My, basically, he's my dad, my grandfather, because my grandparents raised me since I was a kid.

56:24 Adam So you got trust issues. All right, Kim.

56:27 Stabbing Westward Yes.

56:28 Adam How about you take a little time off on your own, a little bit of therapy, a little bit of soul-searching, some long walks, read some books, and just find yourself for six months before you get in another relationship? Good advice. All right?

56:42 There you go.

56:45 Adam You know, the thing that is amazing about this show, what I've learned is I've always just trusted my own instincts, my own vibes. There's people I may know them for two weeks. I'll throw them the keys to my house, tell them to watch it while I'm in New York or whatever. I feel like I know everybody immediately, and I'm rarely wrong. I think if you're sort of in tune with yourself in life, you will get that. But we talk to people. They're married to people for five years. They have no idea what to think of the person.

57:11 Stabbing Westward Every once in a while, you do come across that sociopath. My ex was able to... I had no idea who she was. After we broke up, I found out so many bizarre things about her from friends and from non-friends and whatnot. People just walk up and just fill me in on these weird holes in our life because bands on tour and whatnot. I just assumed, I spoke to her every night that this is what's going on. But I found out later she'd been sleeping with most of Los Angeles.

57:39 Adam It was really bizarre.

57:41 Stabbing Westward I had no idea.

57:42 Adam Well, for the record, I never got her, I don't think. Drew, what about you?

57:45 Drew For the record.

57:46 Adam No. But you never got a vibe off of her?

57:51 Stabbing Westward It was really bizarre. And normally I have in the past. I've been very, very in tune with everyone around or whatever, but with this person, total sociopath. I'm unable to get any vibe off of her.

58:02 Adam The people in your life that are able to slide under the radar are usually the people that speak to something in you that renders your defenses weak. They have the stealth technology that pertains to just your radar.

58:18 Stabbing Westward Because I have slid under so many other radars in exactly the same way that I didn't see my own tricks.

58:24 Caller I think that's exactly it.

58:26 Drew And that's what we're talking about here in terms of these callers that we have all the time of the week when the past comes to bear on the present and shades reality. Reality becomes, you start moving away from reality because of elements that have come to bear from the past.

58:39 Right, all right.

58:40 Adam Let's talk to John who's 18, John.

58:44 Caller Yeah.

58:44 Adam What's up?

58:45 Caller Hey, how you guys doing?

58:46 Adam Good.

58:46 Caller Good. I am afraid that I got my ex-girlfriend pregnant last week.

58:54 Caller All right.

58:56 Caller She, because most of the time, almost every time we used a condom, but this one last time we took it off because we couldn't, I, we went at it again after we had it, and I didn't have one and we tried it out.

59:10 Adam Right.

59:10 Drew Did you understand that reason there?

59:12 Adam Yeah. He went for round two and he only had one condom.

59:15 Drew I see.

59:15 Stabbing Westward And he didn't do the rinse and go.

59:17 Drew I see. And didn't you say ex-girlfriend?

59:23 Adam Yeah.

59:23 Caller I broke up with her last Friday.

59:25 Adam I see.

59:26 Caller The week.

59:27 Drew The week of the pregnancy.

59:29 Adam Right. Okay. So why do you think she's pregnant now?

59:33 Caller She told me. Well, we realized how stupid the mistake we made was afterwards.

59:37 Drew Why didn't you use the morning after pill then?

59:39 Caller It's really hard to get down here. Down here in Nogales. Or I shouldn't say Tucson.

59:45 Adam In Tucson. All right.

59:46 Drew What makes it hard to guess?

59:48 Caller Well she doesn't...

59:52 Drew You can get it. You can take... there are several different birth control pills you can take this way. I mean that's... it's not hard to get. That's BS.

59:59 Adam All right. Well, the point is, is what's done is done.

1:00:02 Drew I was...

1:00:03 Caller we were also afraid to.

1:00:04 Adam Okay. All right. Well, anyway, so now you have to see if she's pregnant, right?

1:00:08 Caller The thing is, she said she missed her period on Friday.

1:00:12 Adam This was...

1:00:13 Drew But that's in the throes of a breakup. Maybe she was upset, maybe some of the emotional distress.

1:00:17 Caller Yeah. I kind of felt that too. But she called me up the next day. And it was the next day. I understand that. But she was telling me that, you know, I was telling her that we shouldn't have this, that she should do something about it. She said she didn't want to go to see a doctor, but she said she's going to try to have a, induce a miscarriage.

1:00:34 Drew What was her plan?

1:00:36 To watch UPN.

1:00:38 Adam Continuously.

1:00:39 Caller You know, a lot less. And excess of working out.

1:00:43 Drew No, that won't do it.

1:00:44 Caller It won't.

1:00:45 Adam But make her ass look good. It's not a bad angle for you ladies who aren't pregnant.

1:00:49 Stabbing Westward So let me just do the math real quick. So you had sex last week.

1:00:54 Caller Well, two weeks ago now, I guess.

1:00:56 Stabbing Westward Okay. So how much time between the time you had sex and the time semester period?

1:01:01 Caller It was like five days.

1:01:03 Stabbing Westward Is that... Can you get pregnant five days before the start of your period?

1:01:08 Drew Well, no, wait a minute.

1:01:10 Stabbing Westward Fertility time is like two to three.

1:01:11 Drew No, you're right. It's really...

1:01:13 Adam Ovulation time is usually two weeks after the period ends, right?

1:01:18 Stabbing Westward Five days before, it's pretty much over now.

1:01:20 Caller Okay, yeah, it's been a while and it's kind of stuck in my head, but I remember her saying that it was like... We had... It had happened fifteen days after her last period.

1:01:30 Adam Oh, well, you're right in the wheelhouse.

1:01:33 Caller She heard that from a friend of hers, you know, that that was about the time.

1:01:37 Drew Yeah, but it's... Again, she should menstruate two weeks after she ovulates, right? So...

1:01:43 Adam Okay, well, listen, John?

1:01:45 Caller Am I competing again?

1:01:46 Adam Yeah. We're gonna flip over all the cards and say...

1:01:50 Drew She might be pregnant.

1:01:50 Adam She might be pregnant. She has to get a pregnancy test. If she is pregnant and she wants to get an abortion, she should not do it herself. She should let one of her friends do it. She should go to the Planned Parenthood.

1:02:03 Caller She's afraid to go there because she knows...

1:02:06 Her mother knows everybody that works there.

1:02:08 Drew You should drive her to another town and do it there.

1:02:10 Caller Yeah.

1:02:11 Adam Okay.

1:02:13 Caller She's my ex and stuff.

1:02:14 Stabbing Westward You have to take care of it. It's your responsibility one way or the other.

1:02:17 Adam She's not going to be your ex if you have a kid.

1:02:20 Caller Yeah.

1:02:20 Adam She will be, but you'll have a kid.

1:02:22 Caller I know. I'm worried about that.

1:02:23 Adam All right. So stay with it, John.

1:02:25 Caller Oh, one thing. A question for Stabbing Westward. I listened to your stuff. I like it a lot. And I was wondering if you had any influence from like Nine Inch Nails Front Resonator.

1:02:38 Stabbing Westward Definitely.

1:02:39 Caller Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I kind of heard some of it. And that's kind of why I liked it a lot. Because, you know, it's like my favorite band. But I don't know. I'm probably going to buy that CD. Yeah, I'm going to definitely.

1:02:51 Adam May 22nd.

1:02:52 Stabbing Westward Thanks, man.

1:02:53 Adam Dip into that abortion fund and just pull just enough out to get the Stabbing Westward CD.

1:02:59 Stabbing Westward Make double sure that she's not messing with you either, man. Because I mean, a lot of times when you break up with somebody, this can be sort of a last ditch effort to sort of reach out and cling. But if she is pregnant, it's your responsibility to take care of it.

1:03:11 Drew Yeah.

1:03:12 Adam Patrick?

1:03:13 Yeah?

1:03:14 Adam You're 15?

1:03:15 Caller Yeah.

1:03:15 Adam What's up?

1:03:16 Caller Well, first thing I want to say is, Adam, you're awesome.

1:03:19 Adam Thanks.

1:03:19 Caller I follow you.

1:03:20 Drew Patrick, what's the question?

1:03:22 Caller I don't get along with my parents too well. All right. And they want to like put me in a military school. And I am still not for that. Yeah.

1:03:31 Drew That's not all. You doesn't serve much function.

1:03:34 Adam Where is the military school?

1:03:36 Caller It's in Eastern Oregon.

1:03:39 Adam How far away is it from where you are?

1:03:41 Caller Well, probably a little over 100 miles, maybe.

1:03:44 Adam Are you a discipline problem?

1:03:46 Caller Well, my dad thinks I need discipline.

1:03:48 Drew Why? What makes him think that?

1:03:50 Caller Well, I don't know. We argue a lot and we fight.

1:03:53 Drew About what?

1:03:55 Caller Anything dumb stuff.

1:03:56 Drew Like what?

1:03:57 Caller Um, stuff around the house, you know, like chores and dishes.

1:04:01 Adam Well, Patrick, why don't you kiss a little ass and see if you can save your own from going to military school?

1:04:08 Caller Yeah.

1:04:09 Adam Doesn't that seem to make sense?

1:04:11 Caller It does.

1:04:12 Drew You know, when kids can't do that is when they've been physically abused by a parent. Then it becomes, they become obsessed with getting around the parent, doing anything they can not to do what the parent says.

1:04:21 Adam Were you physically abused?

1:04:24 Caller Sort of, by my dad.

1:04:25 Adam He hit you?

1:04:26 Caller Yeah. We get in our little brawls, you know.

1:04:29 Drew Yeah, those aren't little brawls, Patrick, but that's abuse, it's illegal. And that's what's making you need to get, to be obsessed with doing something against his wishes.

1:04:37 Caller Yeah.

1:04:38 Drew That's where that comes from.

1:04:39 Caller Well, a while back ago, my mom, like, kicked him out because he hit my mom. He was out for six months and, you know, now he's back, you know, together. I don't think things are better.

1:04:50 Adam How about teaming up with your mom?

1:04:52 Caller Oh, she's like, I don't know, he's here and now she's on his side, you know, and I don't get along with her anymore. All right.

1:04:57 Adam Hey, all right. So, Patrick, here's the way I look at it. I mean, we get these calls every night and listen, everybody, most everybody calls the show as a bad situation at home. I had a crappy stepmom. I hated my guts, didn't get along well with her, didn't like my dad too much. Shocking.

1:05:15 Caller I know, shocking.

1:05:17 Adam But here's the thing. Stay out of their crosshairs. You go to school all day and then after school you go to fill in the blank practice, swim practice or football or baseball practice and when that's done you come home, you walk in your room, you turn the TV on, you study for an hour and you go whack off. Sorry, I almost forgot that.

1:05:34 Drew That's studying for you, wasn't it?

1:05:35 Adam Did I mention jacking off in the morning before he went to school? And then you go to bed and the next day it's the same routine.

1:05:40 Drew You study for an hour every night?

1:05:42 Adam No, no. I'm saying he should study. Oh, I see, I see. How dare you?

1:05:45 Stabbing Westward I beg your pardon.

1:05:47 Drew I said whacking off was the code for study. I mean, study was the code for whacking off.

1:05:50 Adam No, I did not study ever, but I went to school, I went to practice, and then I hung out with my friends, ate over at their house, went home, walked right past that mom and dad, walked in my bedroom, whacked off, went to bed. That's, hey, you will not get in arguments with a guy if you just stay out of the guy's face. Now, he could be a raging alcoholic abuser, in which case he's going to seek it out. But it sounds like Patrick is eager for the fray himself.

1:06:18 Drew Well, again, because of dad, though.

1:06:20 Adam Okay. But if he doesn't want to go to military school, just stay out of his dad's face.

1:06:26 Caller I could fly under the radar.

1:06:27 Adam And fly under the radar. Johnny?

1:06:30 Caller Yeah.

1:06:31 Adam You're 23?

1:06:32 Caller Yes, I am.

1:06:32 Stabbing Westward Yeah.

1:06:33 Adam Living at home in your teens is really a lot like just having a bad job. Just kiss your boss's ass for a few years until you can get the hell out of there, get promoted, or move on.

1:06:44 Stabbing Westward You'll forget about it really soon anyway.

1:06:46 Adam Yep. Johnny?

1:06:47 Caller Yep.

1:06:48 Adam Twenty-three, what's going on?

1:06:50 Caller Yeah, quick question. My girlfriend and I, we took, or she took the morning after pill. A few days later, she took a pregnancy test, and it shows she was pregnant.

1:07:01 Drew A few days later?

1:07:03 Caller Yeah, I think it was like three days later.

1:07:05 Drew So five days after you had intercourse?

1:07:08 Caller That she took the morning after pill?

1:07:10 Drew No, that should have been within three days, right?

1:07:12 Caller Yeah, she took that two days after the intercourse.

1:07:14 Drew Alright, and then three days later you took the pregnancy?

1:07:16 Caller The pregnancy.

1:07:17 Drew That would be five days later, like I said?

1:07:19 Stabbing Westward Five days later? That's not accurate.

1:07:20 Drew Five days later, they're not meaningful.

1:07:23 Caller Ah, okay.

1:07:24 Stabbing Westward You have to wait, what, two weeks?

1:07:25 Drew Two weeks.

1:07:26 Adam Hey, but that is an interesting question, and thanks for your question, Johnny, and if she took the morning after pill properly, there's a good chance she's not pregnant.

1:07:36 Caller Ah, okay.

1:07:36 Caller Yeah, because she took two of them. One says she was pregnant, and in the following morning, she took another one, and it says she wasn't pregnant.

1:07:42 Drew Well, none of it's working at five days out.

1:07:44 Adam But here's the question, and you probably don't know the answer to this, but if you do take it before the two-week period, is it more apt to be positive or negative?

1:07:54 Drew Negative, I would assume.

1:07:56 Adam You would assume negative?

1:07:57 Caller Yeah.

1:07:58 Drew Although I'm thinking, I'm wondering if there's anything about the morning after.

1:08:02 Stabbing Westward Yeah, that would cause an increase in the estrogen.

1:08:05 Drew Beta-HCG, those are what they test for, usually.

1:08:08 Caller Hmm.

1:08:10 Adam They pee on that stick?

1:08:11 Drew They pee on that stick, yes.

1:08:12 Adam I really like that.

1:08:15 Stabbing Westward I was just trying to visualize the peeing on the stick.

1:08:18 Drew That's nice. You guys are quaint. I like the peeing on the stick. You sit and think about it. Nice.

1:08:24 Adam As a guy, is there any test where we get to pee on something? Because that's something I'd like to do. Nothing?

1:08:30 Stabbing Westward There's the write your name in the snow test.

1:08:32 Adam Done that. Well, not the snow.

1:08:34 Drew You pee in a cup. We have plenty of peeing cups. We get it much easier that way. Imagine being a woman trying to pee in the cup. Yeah.

1:08:40 Stabbing Westward When you pee in a cup, do you put the cup down and aim for the cup, or do you hold the cup between your fingers and then just deal with it?

1:08:46 Drew It's easy. It's just to lay the penis in there and just pee. But if you guys want to try to do some target practice.

1:08:50 Stabbing Westward Then hurry up and pull it out before it overflows.

1:08:54 Adam Alright, we're going to take a break. Stabbing Westward is here. We'll hear something off their CD when we come back.

1:09:01 Caller Hello, is this Loveline?

1:09:03 Caller Call 1-800-LOVE-1-9-1. Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back.

1:09:37 Hi, this is Rodney Dangerfield.

1:09:39 Caller I'll tell you the guys here at Loveline are the greatest.

1:09:41 Caller They're the best, the best in the whole world.

1:09:43 Caller Now, will you please untie me?

1:09:46 Adam It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew over there. Derek and Christopher are both here from Stabbing Westward. CD is out May 22nd. And we'll take a call and then we'll hear something off the new CD. Michelle?

1:10:03 Yeah.

1:10:04 Adam You're 25?

1:10:05 Caller I am.

1:10:05 Adam What's up?

1:10:07 Caller I have never been pregnant and have never had a child, obviously. And I started lactating or having, like, leaky breasts.

1:10:15 Drew That would be lactation.

1:10:17 Caller Yep.

1:10:17 Drew Are you on any medication?

1:10:19 Caller I'm on Prevacid.

1:10:21 Drew I don't know if Prevacid can do that. Yes?

1:10:24 Caller Yeah, I'm here.

1:10:25 Adam What is that Prevacid for? Dr. Bruce is back there.

1:10:28 Drew He has an opinion about it. Prevacid cause galacturia? You ever seen that? Bruce is waking up. No, I've never seen Prevacid do that, but there are many medicines that can do that. No, Bruce says no. I've never seen it do that either. But medication is a common cause of it. Pregnancy, as you mentioned, is a common cause. Thyroid problems, pituitary tumors, something you've got to get checked out. Stimulation of the breast can actually do it sometimes.

1:10:51 Caller Okay, so making a doctor's appointment, what questions should I expect?

1:10:56 Drew No questions, there's some blood tests you've got to go through.

1:10:59 Caller Okay.

1:10:59 Drew And pregnancy tests being one of them.

1:11:02 Adam What's the medication for?

1:11:03 Drew It's for the stomach, for the stomach problem. It's a proton pump inhibitor. It shuts off the acid secretion by the stomach.

1:11:10 Adam Why?

1:11:11 Drew You have gastritis or something, or reflux? Yeah, she has gastroesophageal reflux.

1:11:16 Adam Nice. You get some gas going?

1:11:18 Drew Hard burn.

1:11:18 Caller No, it's just hard burn.

1:11:20 Adam No, gas is funnier.

1:11:22 Caller Sorry to disappoint you.

1:11:24 Drew But Michelle, are you having your breast stimulated in some way? I think they can do that. No. All right. So get it checked out, check your thyroid and whatnot, prolactin levels. Okay? All right.

1:11:34 Adam All right. Good times.

1:11:36 Drew All right.

1:11:37 Adam All right. Put your mattress up on angle, right, Drew?

1:11:40 Drew Trying to figure out why.

1:11:41 Adam When you get that acid reflux.

1:11:43 Drew Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know what? That used to be a mainstay recommendation, but these medicines are so good now.

1:11:50 Adam Just sleep standing up, then the acid won't go back into your esophagus or whatever.

1:11:54 Drew Whoops. I lost your mic. There you are. There you are.

1:11:58 Stabbing Westward There's never a horse with acid reflux.

1:12:00 Adam Yeah. Because they sleep standing up, right? Do they sleep standing up?

1:12:03 Drew I guess.

1:12:05 Adam Well, the dumber the animal, the more they stand when they're sleeping. I've just thought about that. The more evolved, the more comfortable they are sleeping. You know what I mean?

1:12:17 Drew So the cat is the ultimate organism?

1:12:19 Adam Yeah. They stretch out. They get in that sock drawer. You know, it's weird. When I see these nature channels, and I see them talking about how tigers and lions in the wild will sleep up to 18 hours a day, I feel better about myself. You know you got a problem when you're looking to some cats piled up in the Serengeti and thinking, boy, I feel better about myself now. Since we've been on tour, I sleep like 10 hours in the daytime. Nice.

1:12:51 Caller And then when we, Chris is like, how do you do that?

1:12:53 Stabbing Westward He just walks in the room and goes to sleep.

1:12:56 Adam Yeah.

1:12:56 Stabbing Westward And then after the show, sleep again.

1:12:58 Adam I'm feeling better about myself.

1:13:00 Caller So I'm up to three hours a day.

1:13:03 Drew Total. Just being awake. Wake hour, three hours.

1:13:06 Adam You know what I'm looking for? I'm looking to actually sleep more than 24 hours in a day. I would like to be 25, 26.

1:13:13 Stabbing Westward So we gotta keep in touch them.

1:13:14 Adam See if I could actually. I haven't worked it out mathematically yet, but I got some Asian friends that are hard at work on it. I actually like to cut into the next. And I'm not sure how it's gonna work.

1:13:24 Drew You need a new calendar. Maybe if you travel at the speed of light backwards.

1:13:28 Adam Then I could sleep 25 hours in a day.

1:13:31 Caller You're good for your butt too.

1:13:32 Adam I love that. I love that. And you know the other part I love. I love after honker and down for a nice 11 hours and 45 minutes how I feel a little bit tired.

1:13:42 Caller I don't even feel like you wake up and go back to sleep.

1:13:46 Adam Pardon my affect but I only got 12 hours in last night. So I'm real sensitive to light and I'm on edge. This is Stabbing Westward off the CD of the same name and it's called Happy. That is just Stabbing Westward off the CD, Stabbing Westward, which will be out May 22nd. That's another good song off that CD called Happy. Stabbing Westward is here tonight. They'll be at the Roxy tomorrow night. And let's see about taking another call. Jared?

1:18:18 Yes.

1:18:19 Adam You're 19, what's up?

1:18:22 Caller My main problem at this moment is a lot of times I've been having like moments of ESP and stuff like that. The other thing is I pretty much haven't had a girlfriend a lot of times in my life. And I'm 19 already. I had a girlfriend for about two weeks. And one of the things I'm trying to deal with right now is I kind of have a lack in those spaces. And a lot of ways I feel like the world grew me up in a really cruel way.

1:18:51 Drew What happened growing up?

1:18:54 Caller Well, slowly as growing up, one time I was put in a foster home and stuff like that. Mostly because of the parental thing where my mother went with my aunt to escort her out of the state for being like a part of I guess you could say robbery. Not robbery, but robbery from like the Mormon Church. She was an assistant to a felon and got put in jail.

1:19:22 Adam Good times.

1:19:24 Caller I went to a foster home that was a lot of...

1:19:26 Adam Yeah. I'm curious about the ESP part. How's that working?

1:19:32 Caller That actually came later in my life. Which is one of the reasons why I got far extended for certain things that I want to live and stuff like that.

1:19:45 Adam You're like talking to the Riddler.

1:19:47 Drew Oh yeah.

1:19:48 Adam What's up, Jared? Anyone ever tell you to get on any medication?

1:19:53 Caller Yes.

1:19:53 Drew You want to know?

1:19:54 Caller I've been on Prozac and also Respiradol and Serizone.

1:19:58 Adam How's that do for you?

1:20:00 Caller The Spiradol and Serizone, that didn't do too well for me.

1:20:04 Drew You need some?

1:20:04 Caller A lot of times, I was feeling a lot of lagging and actually wanting less to live and a lot of times during my life.

1:20:11 Drew So the Prozac is helping with those kinds of things?

1:20:12 Caller The Prozac was a lot better, yes.

1:20:14 Drew You're going to need something like the Respiradol though to help with the funny thoughts you're having.

1:20:19 Adam Well, give us an example of the ESP and when it's come through for you.

1:20:24 Caller Can we repeat that again?

1:20:26 Adam The ESP you have?

1:20:29 Caller That happened a long time ago during stuff, probably about a year and a half, not too long ago.

1:20:35 Adam Right, give us an example of something you saw coming.

1:20:40 Caller One example of ESP and stuff like that is with family members it's a lot more strong. There's times where I will totally hear people's examples or their thoughts going on before they're actually talking about them. Kind of like Deja Vu.

1:20:55 Drew Deja Vu is a brain phenomenon.

1:20:57 Caller Yeah, yeah. But the other thing about that is like other things that are involved with that is there's times that I've actually been able to dream at certain times the future and stuff like that.

1:21:10 Drew Like give us an example.

1:21:11 Caller Things that have happened like that I literally remembered that I dreamt those before.

1:21:16 Drew Again, that's Deja Vu.

1:21:17 Adam This little dream once about his alarm clock going off at 8. Sure enough.

1:21:22 Drew Yeah, that's Deja Vu phenomena. It's when you wake up and dream and then a week later it happens.

1:21:27 Caller Yeah, yeah. I mean there's... It's not......a day when I can have a single thought like that I think about like what just happened during that day.

1:21:35 Adam Listen, unless you can take this to the track and make it into something, it ain't worth squat.

1:21:40 Caller No, I know. But in a way...

1:21:43 Adam That goes out to all you folks out there that have special gifts. Show me the guy who I can go down the track with and make a few bucks and magically it all disappears. All right, so Jared, you're on your medication.

1:21:58 Caller Yeah.

1:21:58 Adam You're working?

1:22:00 Caller At this moment, I'm out of work. Otherwise, I've just been more supporting, like, kind of helping out supporting the family and the land.

1:22:07 Adam Okay. Well, why don't you work on... Here's the thing about women. Everyone looks at it as a big spin of the cosmic wheel as to whether they get a woman or get laid or not. It is not coincidence. They like guys with jobs. They like guys with cars. They like guys who aren't nutty. They like guys who are on their medication that they don't know about. They like guys who have their own ass together, in other words. All right. So you convert yourself into that kind of guy and magically you will start getting some women.

1:22:40 Caller And you have plenty of time to...

1:22:41 Adam Right. 19. So that's where your work is. Not in convincing a woman but in not fooling a woman, actually living the life that attracts them.

1:22:49 Drew I'm not even worrying about the ESP powers on it.

1:22:52 Adam Look, all you guys out there who are worried about solving the riddle that is females, don't worry about it. But here's the easy answer. Make some money. Get your ass together. They'll magically come around. I guarantee it. 19 is young. You have so much time. Right. But I mean, how much energy do guys put into BS as opposed to their career, their school, their band, their whatever it is that's going to get them what they desire. All right. We're going to take ourselves a little break. Stabbing Westward is our guest. When we come back, we'll speak to James who's 18. Wants to know why his...

1:23:29 Drew Stabbing Westward.

1:23:30 Adam Oh, OK.

1:23:31 Caller It says Westwood.

1:23:34 Drew Stabbing Westward question.

1:23:35 Adam You know, we're in Westwood 1, so I was confused about that. All right. Question for the band after this.

1:24:16 It's Loveline.

1:24:17 Adam I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Derek and Christopher, both here from Stabbing Westward. That is also the name of the CD, which will be out May 22nd. What the hell is the date today?

1:24:30 Drew The 14th or 13th?

1:24:32 Adam 13th. All right. So a couple of weeks, a little less. We'll hop back to the phones and speak to James. James?

1:24:41 Caller Yeah.

1:24:41 Caller Hello.

1:24:43 Adam You have a question for the band?

1:24:44 Caller Yeah.

1:24:45 Caller I just want to say, Drew, Adam, I love you guys. I've been listening to you guys since like seventh grade.

1:24:50 Caller Thank you.

1:24:52 Stabbing Westward What grade do you know?

1:24:53 Caller Help me out a lot.

1:24:54 Drew Has Adam been here all that time?

1:24:56 Caller Huh?

1:24:57 Drew Was Adam here all that time?

1:24:58 Caller Yep.

1:24:59 Drew Well, I was thinking about that.

1:25:00 Adam Oh man. All right.

1:25:04 Caller Yeah. Stabbing Westward, Chris, Derek, my friend Sam got me into you guys a couple of years ago. I've been listening to you ever since. Love, love your guys' work. I have a question, a few actually. Your guys' new stuff sounds more just guitar and drum bass instead of the previous stuff which was more industrial and keyboards. What was the change for that?

1:25:32 Stabbing Westward That didn't sound like the end of the question. The main reason we did that was because the whole electronic computer generated music thing was getting very, it wasn't very creative anymore. It seemed that we had sort of gotten in a box creatively and it wasn't very emotional, it wasn't very human. And we'd sort of grown to the point that we wanted to make our music more emotional and it's really hard to do that when it's being run by Simpty Timecode off of a Macintosh.

1:26:06 Caller I see. I love the new stuff though. I just heard the two songs and I got to say they really kick ass.

1:26:11 Stabbing Westward Thanks.

1:26:12 Caller Thanks man.

1:26:13 Adam What was your second question?

1:26:14 Caller You guys are playing the Viper Room. Now is that a 21 and over show?

1:26:18 Stabbing Westward We're actually playing the Roxy now.

1:26:20 Caller Oh, you are?

1:26:20 Stabbing Westward Yeah.

1:26:21 Caller Oh. Okay.

1:26:23 Adam Is it 21 and over?

1:26:24 Stabbing Westward No, I don't think that is. I think it's 18 or something.

1:26:27 Adam James?

1:26:28 Caller Yeah.

1:26:29 Adam That's tomorrow night.

1:26:30 Caller Oh, damn it.

1:26:34 Adam You want the band to come by your place and see if they can do a set?

1:26:36 Stabbing Westward We'll do an acoustic thing for you.

1:26:38 Caller That would be cool.

1:26:40 Caller Are you guys playing any other shows in California?

1:26:42 Stabbing Westward We're playing San Francisco Day After Tomorrow. Where are you at?

1:26:45 Caller I'm in Bakersfield.

1:26:47 Stabbing Westward Yeah, we're playing San Francisco Day After Tomorrow and then I think we're playing Sacramento with The Cult.

1:26:53 Adam All right. Hey, James?

1:26:54 Caller Yeah?

1:26:54 Adam You're going to have to just get the CD on the 22nd, get really stoned, and pretend you're at the concert, put the pictures inside the album cover in front of a ceiling fan with a strobe light and it will sort of look like we're dancing.

1:27:09 Caller I wish I could do that.

1:27:10 Adam Oh, yeah, it can be done.

1:27:12 Caller Have you guys ever thought about putting your videos onto a compilation thing? Because I've never seen them on MTV because we all know they don't play you guys.

1:27:20 Stabbing Westward They don't play videos anymore.

1:27:21 Caller That's true.

1:27:23 Stabbing Westward Yeah, we've thought about it, but it's hard to do.

1:27:26 Caller Well, you can go to the website as well and see.

1:27:29 Stabbing Westward Yeah, you can go to the website, www.stabbingwestward.com.

1:27:32 Adam Easy enough. Let's speak to Chris who's 15. Chris?

1:27:38 Caller Hi, yeah. I have a problem with, I guess, it's with my dad. When I was four, my parents got divorced. I knew that my dad was smoking pot, but just recently I found out that the main reason they got divorced is because he slept with my maid.

1:27:59 Drew Your maid?

1:28:00 Caller Yeah, the maid.

1:28:01 Drew The maid, right.

1:28:03 Caller And I want to confront him about both things, but I'm afraid to. I'm not too sure if he's going to freak out and like say, oh, the...

1:28:14 Adam How did you find out about the maid?

1:28:16 Caller My mom was like mad at me and she said, don't be like your father, don't go sleep with the maid.

1:28:21 Drew What was she mad at you about? God, mom.

1:28:23 Adam That's good mothering when they weave that in.

1:28:26 Caller Oh, I didn't do a few things.

1:28:28 Adam Yeah, you're going to cornhole me just like your old man did.

1:28:33 Stabbing Westward So you're saying there's a chance.

1:28:36 Drew Chris, what are you hoping to accomplish?

1:28:38 Adam Was this a living maid?

1:28:40 Caller No, she's not, no.

1:28:42 Adam Just come by the house?

1:28:44 Caller Yeah.

1:28:45 Drew What were you planning to accomplish by discussing this with him?

1:28:48 Caller Well, I just want to like, I don't want to have any secrets or anything between us. We're always like, we go places to movies. We're never really serious about anything.

1:28:59 Drew But you're pissed at him, right? You're angry at him. So why don't you just tell him that? You're disappointed and angry. Don't do it in a way that's aggressive.

1:29:08 Adam Just give him an opportunity.

1:29:11 Drew Just tell him why. As it gets going, just tell him, look, you know this and this. You know about him. You know about the pot. You know about the maid. It makes you angry and it's hurtful. But don't be aggressive with it. Don't unload on him because then he will be defensive.

1:29:24 Caller Okay, and another question is with the pot, if he's high, because when I'm over there, he'll go out and say, I've got to wash the laundry and he'll smoke out. Will he freak out? Like, does it stimulate him in any way that he'll?

1:29:36 Drew No, usually it's quite the contrary.

1:29:38 Adam Yeah, he'll start crying.

1:29:40 Stabbing Westward He'll get really upset and dive into a bag of Frito-Lays or something, Funyuns.

1:29:45 Adam And drown his sorrows in Funyuns. You will bum his high though. Tell him he spoke to the maid and she said he was no good.

1:29:53 Stabbing Westward Just as you're talking to him, hand him like the court of Ben and Jerry's.

1:29:58 Drew Now Chris, it...

1:29:59 Adam That'll really freak him out.

1:30:00 Drew Don't expect it to be a real gratifying experience.

1:30:01 Adam Rosa said you suck.

1:30:03 Caller It's nice that you...

1:30:05 Drew It's a good impulse to want to get to a more honest place with him. It's a good impulse to confront him with his behaviors and how they've affected you, okay?

1:30:12 Stabbing Westward But it doesn't seem like the father's actually confronted his own behavior.

1:30:15 Drew But he hasn't had to. They've sort of been getting along on a superficial level and Chris wants a little more.

1:30:19 Adam All right.

1:30:20 Caller I just want to say you guys are all awesome. And I just want to say hi to a few of my friends out there.

1:30:25 Yep.

1:30:26 Adam Cut them off. All right. They're good times.

1:30:29 Caller I believe them.

1:30:31 Adam Polly, you're 21. Yeah. What's up?

1:30:34 Caller I've been having a very rough time and I just need some guidance, I guess you could say. I'm 21 and I just had a son two months ago. And since then, it just all went downhill, it seems like. He was two months early and he's had a very rough time.

1:30:50 Drew Is he okay now?

1:30:51 Caller He's getting a little better. He would quit breathing on me. And he's had to be resuscitated three times and he was born with one kidney and so he's having problems with that. And then last week I was just diagnosed with uterine cancer.

1:31:08 Drew Uterine or something from the placenta?

1:31:11 Caller Something from the placenta. And we're still working on that. And so I guess the first about was I don't really, I haven't learned much about that cancer yet.

1:31:21 Drew Those are actually very aggressive cancers but usually very treatable.

1:31:24 Adam What do you mean something from the placenta?

1:31:26 Drew The placenta can cause tumors too.

1:31:29 Caller And he was resuscitated?

1:31:30 Adam The excess stuff that stays in there?

1:31:33 Drew I've not seen that. I've always seen it from these sort of pregnancies that go bad that way. But there's something called choreocarcinoma that can do that.

1:31:41 Adam Okay, so what else besides the cancer in the child and one kidney?

1:31:47 Caller Well, that's about it.

1:31:50 Adam That's enough. Are you married?

1:31:52 Caller I'm engaged.

1:31:53 Adam Okay, how's your fiance doing?

1:31:56 Caller He's great.

1:31:56 Adam He's being good? Supportive?

1:31:57 Caller Yeah, he's just having a hard time because now he has to deal with me being sick and the baby.

1:32:02 Drew What did they tell you about the cancer? They expect recovery?

1:32:04 Caller Well, what I did is I went in and I had my appointment and I had to go in through the emergency room and then I go see my main doctor tomorrow who's going to go over everything with me. But what just kind of makes me mad is that how did I get that, I guess is what I'm wondering because nobody has told me that yet.

1:32:24 Drew How do you get any cancer? They just happen.

1:32:26 Caller Yeah, I mean is it any way in the doctor's fault when they C-section them?

1:32:30 Drew No, it doesn't sound like it.

1:32:32 Caller Doesn't sound like it.

1:32:33 Drew The question is whether they could have seen something like that. But again, this is a pretty rare situation.

1:32:37 Caller Yeah. So I guess that was just one of my questions. And also, I heard about postpartum because this is my first child. And after he was born, I was great just because I was so busy with him then.

1:32:50 Drew But now you're depressed.

1:32:51 Caller Pre-occupied.

1:32:52 Drew Any depression.

1:32:53 Adam And the cancer diagnosis is enough to make you depressed.

1:32:55 Drew Yeah, it's just the stress. And then any depression up to a year after pregnancy is considered a postpartum depression.

1:33:00 Adam All right, so, Polly, you know, stick with your doctors and do whatever they tell you to do.

1:33:06 Caller Yeah.

1:33:06 Adam And rub those rosary beads.

1:33:09 Caller Well, I mean, and my question about postpartum is, because I talk to my friends who have kids and they say everything I feel is normal. But sometimes it just doesn't feel normal.

1:33:17 Drew I would expect there to be more than normal with all you're dealing with. And that should be discussed with the doctors that you're seeing tomorrow.

1:33:23 Adam Okay. Good luck. We'll be back.

1:33:25 Caller Hello. This is your radio. Love Line will be right back.

1:34:05 Adam Stabbing Westward, I want to thank you guys for coming in here tonight.

1:34:08 Stabbing Westward Nice to be here.

1:34:10 Adam Good.

1:34:10 Stabbing Westward Thank you guys.

1:34:11 Adam Good to see you guys again. Much success, not only tomorrow night at the Roxy and with the record release on the 22nd of May, but with the Colt UK Tour coming up this summer. And come back soon.

1:34:28 Stabbing Westward Really soon.

1:34:29 Adam We enjoyed it. Until next time, Sam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:34:33 Caller Not aroma.

1:34:35 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Dan Wilkins. Loveline is the presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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