Episode 1000754886910

1:01 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.

1:14 Voiceover Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, Board Certified Internist and Addiction Medicine Specialist. Tonight, I think we're going to do another night on the Tragedy. It's not something that we discussed before, oh, three minutes ago, maybe two minutes ago. Producer Ann.

1:41 Drew Well, if you'd arrived here four minutes ago, you might have heard from us.

1:44 Adam Yeah, Drew and Producer Ann just said, what do you feel like? And I just said, you know, making fun of 14 year olds with a cauliflower on their dork is not the kind of mood I'm in tonight.

1:57 Drew No. When the hell is it the right time to ask who did this? I mean, this is going to be an awful catastrophe for the next 10 years. We're going to be mourning forever. Today is the day of shock. I'm asking who the hell did this?

2:09 Adam Drew, Drew fired up everybody.

2:11 Drew I was looking someplace with me because the world is your oyster.

2:14 Oh, please, please.

2:17 Adam The kids have been through enough over the last couple of days. They don't need that. So we thought we'd dedicate another night to this topic. What could be bigger? What's had a bigger impact on this country in your lifetime or my lifetime or your grandparents' lifetime on this soil? And it's weighing heavy on all of our minds.

2:38 Drew Yeah, it's making me sick.

2:39 Adam I couldn't see myself talking about other things without thinking about it, so we might as well talk about it.

2:45 Drew That's right. I also, when I heard other programs going through trying to go back to normal programming, I got offended.

2:52 Adam Yeah.

2:52 Drew It's just not right. It's not okay yet.

2:54 Adam Well, it's weird. I was flipping through the channels last night and you're seeing the coverage and the video footage and the Middle East experts and then you flip a couple channels over and you hit Nick at night and there's Three's Company and Mr. Furley thinks Jack's gay.

3:09 Yeah.

3:10 Adam It just kind of watched you. Before it was just not funny but now it takes on a surreal quality.

3:16 Yes.

3:17 Drew It's as surreal as watching the buildings go down. It's like, what the? What is this?

3:22 Adam The world is your oyster. I mean, because that's all the world is. Speaking of surreal. So we'll invite your calls again tonight on this. A lot's happened since we were here last night. They're starting to, the human side of this thing's starting to come out. The stories, the people, the pictures.

3:40 Drew Of course. And I actually, I craved that yesterday because it was too impersonal, too just a big power.

3:46 Adam I don't think they had a lot of it.

3:48 Drew I saw a couple, I told you a couple that moved me, but today I was really happy to see it. I mean, this is the story. Except I'm so mentally ill that I would go to the TV and watch until I was physically sick. I mean, I was so upset I couldn't stand it. I'd leave, try to do something else, and I'd have to go back about 30 minutes later. And then stay until I make myself sick again.

4:13 Adam It's why we can't get anywhere in the freeway when there's a fender bender that's pulled off to the shoulder. I mean, we got a society full of rubber knackers, and I don't mean that in a bad way. I just mean, how are you supposed to sit there and read a magazine when you know their spectacular footage and these crazy stories, mostly morbid, some heroic, but all this is going on. I mean, how can you walk away from the set? You know what I'm saying?

4:40 Drew Yeah, I know.

4:41 Adam All right. So anyway, tonight, and I'm guessing we'll play it by ear, but I think tonight will be the last night, and we'll see what happens tomorrow and how we feel tomorrow. But tonight, we'll dedicate another night to your feelings and thoughts and how this tragedy's touched you. Nick?

5:00 Drew Yes. Nick, let me interrupt you one second. How are you doing tonight?

5:03 Adam All right.

5:04 Drew No, Adam.

5:04 Adam Me? I'm fine. Why?

5:07 Drew You seem a little more affected tonight.

5:08 Adam Well, I'm starting to see the families that had the people on the plane, the loved ones on the plane in the building, starting to get some stories of people who know this guy or know that guy. The human side of it is starting to-

5:25 Drew The real side.

5:26 Adam The real side. I mean, when you see the actual image of the plane going into the building, it's as if, and maybe this is good, but in your mind's eye, that plane is just filled with gasoline and that building is just filled with paper and explosives. It's a movie set. Yeah, it's like there's a plywood and Luon all over the place and we put a bunch of gasoline inside this model plane. I mean, when you start seeing the pictures of the people with their arms around stuff and actually, let's see, there you go. Nick tried to get his call in, now I got to put him on hold. They were talking about one of the pilots for United or American, I can't remember what it was, and he was a guy, I said he was about 51 years old, and he was a big Angels and Lakers fan, and he was coming out here, and he used to fly F4 Phantoms for the Navy, and so on and so forth. And about a year, year and a half ago, I walked up front to a cockpit and talked to a pilot who was, who looked like the guy in the picture. That was a year and a half ago, and you know I'm always drunk whenever I'm on a plane, or even drop someone off at the airport, I like to get drunk.

6:37 Drew Judgment's better then though.

6:39 Adam But yeah, it's true, I have more clarity when I'm drunk. But the guy looked like the guy I was speaking to, and the guy I spoke to, and the reason I remember it, the pilot, the United pilot I spoke to, said he flew F-4 Phantoms in the Navy, in the military. And I love the F-4 Phantom, I think it's one of the best military planes we have, and hopefully some of its older brothers or younger brothers are gonna go over there and bomb the hell out of whoever we gotta bomb the hell out of in the next few days. But I thought to myself when I was looking at this guy and looking at the picture and thinking the guy looked kind of familiar, that may have been the guy I was speaking to and how much I enjoyed talking to the guy and how gregarious he was. And I don't know, I started thinking about the pilots. And most pilots, a lot of you haven't had a chance to talk to some of these guys, but if you sit up in first class and they recognize you and they love talking about military planes and stuff, because most of these guys flew in the military. And I know a couple of pilots outside of flying. These guys are sort of go-forward gregarious, they're sort of adrenaline junkie types, but they keep it together. But they're just really, they're like firemen in a sense. They're like firemen with an education, smart firemen. Yeah, and they're really great guys. Anyway, I was thinking about showing this guy was 51 and used to fly for the military and all that. I thought, geez, I wonder if it was that dude. And it made me sad. So it's starting to come home a little bit. Nick?

8:05 Yes.

8:06 Adam Go ahead. I'm sorry.

8:08 I just wanted to come on and say that first, first and foremost, I enjoy you guys' show. I listen to you every single night.

8:14 Adam Thanks.

8:14 And I've been on, I went on MSNBC before to defend the youth of today. And I know that there's a lot of young people listening that are extremely frightened. I myself am very nervous, so you'll have to excuse me if I'm nervous. I just wanted to say that this is, I mean, this is still our generation. This is the time where our generation needs to realize that within the next decade, the ball is going to be in our court. And we definitely need to use, I mean, use your voice, use your mind, use your intelligence, and make sure, I mean, maybe this is the biggest wake-up call to ever hit history. As far as, you know, maybe we need to start thinking about ending discrimination, ending hatred, and ending...

9:10 Adam Well, how's that go, though?

9:11 Drew Yeah, I, somebody was talking to me about this today, and I thought to myself, beautiful, wonderful. But give me one example in history where people like this have responded to being embraced and loved. One, just one. They've responded to only one thing, and that's...

9:26 Adam Is that what he's talking about?

9:27 Drew Overwhelming force is the only thing they've ever responded to, ever, in the history of mankind.

9:32 Adam Well, the problem is, is you're dealing with a, you know, fringe group of fanatics who have a bizarre and extreme...

9:40 Shared delusion, yeah.

9:41 Adam Religious, it's really just sort of narcissistic, delusional, religious views.

9:48 Exactly.

9:48 Adam And, now, as screwed up as these crazy Islam guys are, go talk to a serious born-again Christian and see if you can, see what you can do with them. You don't get through to them very good either, do you? You know what I mean? I mean, here's what I'm saying. We've had people on this show who were serious, devout, born-again Christians, and talked to them about just using the morning after pill and the sense that that would make in terms of getting rid of some of the unwanted pregnancies and abortions and that kind of thing. They won't hear a word of it. You know why? Because they're not interested in logic, they're not interested in reason, they're interested in fanaticism, their own brand of fanaticism.

10:32 Caller I think that pretty much ended today, or, you know, in the last couple days.

10:38 Adam Well, they...

10:38 Caller It will be a big change.

10:40 Drew You would hope so.

10:42 Adam Here's the thing. We, we as, you know, a civilized nation, would like to think that there's nothing, a little counseling, a little rehab, and maybe a couple months in prison couldn't do to cure just about anybody. But the reality is, is some, some dogs need to be put down. And there's a handful of them and they need to be put down. And when you're dealing with people who would gladly give up their own life, then all bets are off at that point. I mean, I was talking to somebody last night on the phone when I got home, about 1230 at night, and this, this, my buddy, he was saying, hey, this, this could have been, this could have been some sort of neo-Nazi, Timothy McVeigh type whatever. And I said, no way. And he said, why not? Those guys wouldn't have ridden the plane into the building. They would have pulled a DB Cooper and packed the parachute. White guys don't do that. They bail out at the last second.

11:41 Drew But I saw some interviews today where some of the fundamentalists are taught that they get 10 wives for every non-Islam they kill.

11:49 Adam Yeah, well, no, they get virgins.

11:51 Drew Ten of them for every one.

11:52 Adam I know it's funny, though, that's a bizarre religion, which is, look, you kill enough Anglos, you could rape virgins for eternity.

12:04 Drew But you got to understand the thinking. I mean, that's their thinking. So our job is to understand it.

12:08 Adam It's hard to call it thinking, but I know what you mean. Paul?

12:12 Yes.

12:12 Adam You're 17?

12:13 Caller Yeah, first off, I'd like to say my heart goes out to the people who might still be trapped in the World Trade Center, in the Pentagon, and for the families, the hundreds of thousands of people who are gonna directly know those people.

12:27 Adam Yeah, you know, it's just hard to, and I agree with you, you know, we've had buildings collapse, we've had subways collapse, and we've had, you know, five-story buildings collapse.

12:38 Drew We've had planes go down and 400 people die. You know what I mean?

12:42 Adam Drew.

12:42 Drew Is that what you're saying?

12:43 Adam No, you're crapping on my point. My point is, is we've not had 110-story buildings collapse. If it's a situation where there's a floor, two floors, three floors above you, and the building comes down.

12:55 Drew It's a big deal.

12:56 Adam And maybe we can find you, maybe. But when there's 108 stories above you, you're dead. I mean, I think that's what's starting to happen here.

13:05 Drew Let's say you're on the fifth floor and the building collapses. What's the chance that you're going to survive that fall? Just five floors. Forget 100 floors, five floors.

13:14 Adam But I'm saying that-

13:14 Drew And then 100 floors on top of that of concrete comes down on you.

13:18 Adam When you're trapped underneath something, it's all about how much debris is above you. And we've never had a situation where there was this much debris. So I think it's starting to dawn on everyone over there that's involved with the rescue effort that I don't think they're gonna find anybody from this point on. Could you imagine? It's hard to imagine. Paul, what was your question or comment, though?

13:40 Caller I just want to, like, I fear for what our country is becoming and what we're gonna do. Like I saw people on the TV saying today how we should bomb the hell out of Afghanistan.

13:50 Drew Well, I saw one congressman say that.

13:53 Caller Yeah, that one congressman. And it's just like there would be no difference between us and the terrorists.

13:58 Drew I don't think, no, I think, Paul, you're from Washington, DC, right?

14:02 Caller Well, I live, like, seven miles outside.

14:05 Drew I think it's, I think the response can be calculated and measured. I really do. I don't think it's just wild shooting.

14:11 Adam And, you know, people say there's no different between us and them if we start engaging in that sort of behavior, but let me explain something. If two guys are standing around waiting for a bus and one guy takes a swing and whacks the other guy in the head who's standing there reading the newspaper and then the guy who's reading the newspaper whacks him back, there is a big difference. They were both standing there. One guy whacked the other guy while he wasn't looking. Punching back, there's a difference. There's a big difference. Do you know what I'm saying?

14:42 Drew Yeah, but you don't want to punch everybody who's standing in the line with you waiting for the bus.

14:46 Adam No, but if that's his group and you have your group and both groups are just standing there waiting for the bus, and the one group throws a rock first, you know what? Innocent people are going to get hurt, and that's the sad reality of it. Yeah.

15:04 Caller Can I just quickly say, being from Maryland, we are near a lot of Civil War sites. I've been to Antietam, which is the bloodiest battle in US history, and 23,000 people died, whatever. That's what it just keeps on reminding me of, that whatever the death toll is, like 15,000 or something, I can't even imagine.

15:28 Drew It's close to Antietam, or maybe more than Antietam.

15:30 Adam Yeah. Thanks, Paul. It may be, man. They're talking about 20,000.

15:34 Drew I mean, just imagine that. But those were military people going in to die. These are civilians sitting at work.

15:41 Adam Yeah, I know.

15:42 Drew That's a very different thing. That's why I gotta tell you my...

15:46 Adam It's a big difference, I think, emotionally for you. To me, the average age of the guys who died in the Civil War were 15 years younger than the people that went in the World Trade Center. But yes, they were caught up in it. I mean, they volunteered for it.

16:02 Drew I had a strange reaction. The magnitude of this thing made me just sort of ready. I'm not afraid. You know what I mean? I'm just prepared for whatever now.

16:10 Adam Drew's gonna pack his BMW up with fertilizer and drive it into the Lebanese embassy or something.

16:18 Drew It never takes. I usually worry about my own safety, my kids' safety. I worry about that stuff like crazy. I'm like, I have no fear. I'm ready for whatever comes with this.

16:27 Adam All right, Drew.

16:29 Drew I mean, I'm surprised myself. On the other hand, I'm very emotional. I'm still terribly disturbed. I made myself sick today watching television.

16:38 Adam You threw up?

16:39 Drew Nearly.

16:40 Adam Really?

16:40 Drew I really, I was physically and emotionally ill by the end of the day. I'm not right. And I feel awful for people involved with this thing.

16:54 Adam Yeah.

16:54 Drew I mean, this kid who just talked, I guess was Paula just mentioned. Yeah. Just consider that every one of those people knows four, 10, 20 other people. So multiply 20,000 times 20, and that's how many people are directly affected by this.

17:09 Adam And listen, Drew, how many people you know? Four?

17:12 Drew Six.

17:14 Adam How many of those people like you?

17:16 Drew Two. Two?

17:17 Adam Your mom and your mom and who? Not your dad? Yeah. Listen, one of the people on the plane from Boston was this beautiful young 22-year-old chick who just got done graduating from Boston University with some honors.

17:34 Drew Yes. She was from Orange County.

17:36 Adam Yeah. She was going to San Francisco to start a new life, start a job. It was weird for me. It was like a mechanical thing. I was thinking, this person spent the last four years studying and striving and achieving and learning and working. She'd prepared herself and graduated with a couple of honors and was now all this preparation and was taking the flight to go to work to begin her life, which was going to be the culmination of all this preparation she'd been doing. I mean, if you think about this girl and you think about schooling, this girl had probably been going since the sixth grade preparing for this day when she walked away from college with her degrees and her various diplomas, and going to now put them to use out in the workplace, and was murdered on the way to beginning her life, essentially.

18:34 Drew I saw that one too. And her dad seemed like a very courageous man who basically said she wanted to change the world, and he just hopes that this whole event will change things, and she will not have died in vain.

18:47 Adam Gilbert? Yo. You're 21. What's up?

18:51 Caller All right, here's the deal.

18:52 The other night, like Monday night, right, I had this dream, right, where I was standing in the middle of the street, and I don't really expect any of y'all to believe me, but it's like, OK, anyway, I was standing in the middle of the street in front of one of the World Trade Towers, and then the people were just going about their business, and doing whatever, and I was just standing there, and all of a sudden, everybody started running and screaming, and I looked up, and I saw this plane hit the building, and then this lady was standing next to me, and she yelled right in my ear that two planes had just hit the World Trade Towers, and then I woke up, and I looked at my clock, and it was about 5 a.m., so it was before it happened, but I just passed it off. It was just a dream, right? I was just like, whatever, it's just a dream, right?

19:36 Adam Really? The lady said two planes had hit it.

19:39 Well, like each tower, you know?

19:41 Adam Right.

19:41 There was one plane in each tower.

19:43 Adam No, I'm with you. That's what happened. I'm just saying she said that. She described to you what happened.

19:49 Well, yeah, basically. Well, I'm saying this was in my dream, you know?

19:53 Adam Yeah.

19:53 Anyway, so I woke up, and then my mom told me what happened a couple of hours later, and I woke up and I just freaked out. I couldn't believe it was real because I had just dreamed it.

20:04 Adam Have you ever had anything like this happen to you before?

20:07 Never, not once. And now I have this desire, I want really, really badly to go out and help in the rescue effort, and I want to be there digging, looking for people and stuff. And I kind of have a small history of depression, and I'm wondering if... I don't know what the hell the dream is about.

20:33 Drew Is it possible, just playing devil's advocate, that somebody, you heard your mom say something downstairs at 6 o'clock, when it actually did happen, you know, on the West Coast now, and you woke up and misconstrued the time. Like maybe your mom went downstairs and just went, oh my god, two planes just hit the World Trade Center, and you were asleep, and you dreamt that you looked at the clock and saw 5 o'clock, when in fact it was 6 o'clock and you woke up an hour later. Because it happened at 6 o'clock our time. Yeah.

21:01 Adam I have an eminent like 545.

21:02 Drew Yeah, 545. But you see what I'm saying? Or maybe he was listening to somebody at a neighbor yell it or something. Well, no.

21:07 Adam I mean, somebody could have had the TV on downstairs, and you hear it faintly through the door kind of thing. That's possible, and you never know. Drew and I were having this conversation last night on the ride home.

21:20 Drew Because you dreamt something.

21:22 Adam I dreamt that I was watching a plane crash that night.

21:26 Drew What time did that happen?

21:28 Adam It's hard to tell with me. I sleep late, and I move around a lot.

21:33 Drew But listen, you sleep in a vault. I know no one was getting through to you in there. I mean, you were in that sealed chamber you sleep in.

21:40 Adam Yeah. Thank you.

21:41 Drew There was no chance. In fact, that's a great control study. There was no chance any information got in.

21:45 Adam It's called the spankatoriums.

21:47 Drew The spankatorium.

21:49 Adam But yeah, I was bolted into my vault. I think I had the dream after it happened, which is no different. I mean, in my mind. I mean, look, I'm not into all this stuff. I'm just saying there's an interesting thing that you and I were talking about last night on our cell phones on the ride home, which was, who knows what the energy of an event this large?

22:21 Drew Yeah.

22:22 Adam What shockwaves it has? And please, I know some people are rolling their eyes, and I'm really the last guy who's into this stuff. On the other hand, there's things that happen that I can't explain and there are things that cannot be seen that yet happen.

22:37 Drew I heard a wild story today. I don't think I'm divulging any confidence here. Somebody I work with, Son, has some thought disturbances, and he, in January, believed he masterminded two planes, one at each tower, and he went around, told the neighbors about it, and his mother, to get him back from calling the police, to report what he had done. Sent one plane at each tower, and really believed that it happened. And then when it happened, believed that he had done it, and that somebody was gonna come get him for it.

23:07 Adam Oh, so when this happened yesterday, he thought he was the guy behind it.

23:11 Drew He did it, yeah.

23:13 Adam Yeah, Drew was saying to me that last night, actually, where are all the psychics?

23:19 Drew Yeah, well how'd they miss this one? How'd they miss this one?

23:22 Adam They're so busy predicting Barbara Streisand's break up with James Brolin, they missed the good stuff.

23:28 Drew Yeah, where was this one?

23:32 Adam I don't know, I don't know. I know they said there'd be an earthquake that would measure at least three on the Richter scale sometime in the next 20 years here along the San Andreas Fault in Southern California. But yeah, as a psychic, how does this one slide under the radar? You know what I mean? Think about, I mean-

23:49 Drew You should lose your psychic license for this one, right? It's a major gap.

23:54 Adam All psychics who did not predict, who did not have a notarized copy of this that was dated before 9-11-2001, should be stripped of their psychic ranking and sent back to the mall from whence they came. Because you really think about it. I mean, there's no bigger event in our lifetime. There's no bigger event in our lifetime, and there'll probably and hopefully, unless it's a good one, be no bigger event in our lifetime. And as a psychic, how do you miss this one? That's all I'm asking. Any psychics out there? And I didn't hear anything from any of them. I'm just curious. All right, we'll take a break. We'll be back.

24:39 Caller Love Line, we'll be right back.

24:41 Caller Call on the 1-800-LOVE-191.

25:16 Adam Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191. We thought we'd dedicate another night to the victims and the memories and the tragedy that happened yesterday morning, about 8.45. It's something that I'm thinking about, and Drew's thinking about, and everyone around here is thinking about. We imagine you're thinking about it, too. And so it'd be difficult to talk about anything else right now. And we figured, well, if you're thinking it and we're thinking it, let's just give it another night, see where it goes. Let's talk to...

25:57 Drew Aura?

25:58 Adam Yes.

25:58 Drew What's up?

25:59 Adam 24. What's going on?

26:01 Caller That was great. You got that on the first guess there. Most people call me Aura first.

26:06 Adam I was close to it, but I didn't want to sound like one of the Kennedys.

26:10 Caller Well, first of all, I just wanted to tell you guys I love your show. I used to listen to it all the time. I just moved across the country and you're on it midnight where I'm at. And so it's a little hard to listen to you guys.

26:22 Adam Well, that's all right.

26:23 Caller But I had some information also, but I don't know if you guys heard about the price gouging, the gas...

26:31 Drew I did hear about that. Some independent stations, the stations were jacking their prices up like three, four bucks.

26:36 Caller Yeah, around this area. And it's nice to hear that things have kind of turned back to normal. As a matter of fact, my mom told me today that one of the gas station owners in the Oklahoma City area got a press conference together in one of the places that was charging $5 a gallon, got a press conference together and apologized to everyone for doing that and offered refunds to anyone.

27:02 Adam You know, well, we all have our own way of grieving for some people. It's gouging. You know, I'll tell you the reason I don't, but thanks for bringing that up, by the way, Aera. There's been some reports of things that are basically, what I would classify as sort of twisting the knife. We're in a real bad place right now as a nation, and there's a lot of mourning and grieving and pain going on. And then you hear these stories about people celebrating in Palestine and price gouging in the midwest for gas, and some guy wanted 400 bucks for a sheet of plywood, or some nonsense like this. And I think people pick those stories up and run with them sometimes. I think the overwhelming reaction of this country has been beautiful.

28:03 Drew And our allies.

28:05 Adam And our allies.

28:06 Drew I was so touched today. Well, the most moving things I saw today was Russians. You see what they did?

28:12 Adam They sent over a bottle of Kamchatka vodka.

28:14 Drew And we toast it.

28:15 Adam No.

28:16 Drew What did they do? They just showed Russian citizens the grieving and setting flowers and really very heartfelt connection. I think if nothing else happens from all this, it could heal that monumental rift we've had with them for 50 years.

28:30 Adam How bizarre is that?

28:31 Drew Is that bizarre? And Putin? Is that his name? Putin? I don't know.

28:36 Adam Nobody knows, so it doesn't matter.

28:38 Drew He was eloquent. I mean, he really was touching. And the Germans. Did you listen to the Germans?

28:42 Adam Yeah.

28:43 Drew I mean, it was really quite extraordinary.

28:47 Adam Now, I'm picturing, I don't know why I just jumped to my head. I'm picturing Nancy Reagan trying to explain to Ronnie what's going on. I don't know why. It just struck me. But here's a guy who did everything he could to put an end to the Cold War and did a nice job with it, by the way. I'm not a big fan of the guy, but you know, here's something we shouldn't do, and I don't want to go political on everybody, but just because a guy is a Democrat and you're a Republican, or just because a guy is a Republican and you're a Democrat, you can't throw out everything they do. Jimmy Carter did a couple of good things, and you may not like him, and Reagan did a few good things, and you may not like him. One of the things he did was put an end to this Cold War, basically, or make a big dent in it. And I think it would be bizarre for him, and I know he couldn't understand it now, but to tell him that the leaders of Russia were sending their condolences and flowers and thoughts and prayers.

29:41 Drew Whatever we need.

29:42 Adam And whatever we need.

29:44 Drew I mean, they're thinking they're gonna use Russian bases in Afghanistan.

29:46 Adam Well, I'll tell you what I'd like. First off, the Russians got their ass kicked by the Afghanistan people. It was basically, that's their Vietnam. So I don't know how much help they're gonna be. But furthermore, I'll tell you what they could do. The most helpful thing the Russians could do is find the 12 suitcase nuclear bombs they're missing. Those...

30:07 Drew Is that true? They're missing?

30:08 Adam Yeah, they're missing quite a few of these antishay-size nuclear devices.

30:15 Drew Seriously?

30:15 Adam Oh, yes. Because when the country broke up, some of those showed up missing. I mean, because they were spread out in these different provinces who went their own way, basically. I think there's like 12 of them missing. So the point is, is if they could just go ahead and find those, we would consider us even. Do you know what I'm saying? As supposed to, because they're scared that some of those fell into the hands of, well, who knows? All right. Did I just sufficiently freak everyone out?

30:46 Drew I wasn't feeling bad before.

30:48 Adam Here was my initial point. The best part of this tragedy for me is seeing the American people rally and seeing that the love and the compassion and the caring and the genuine sincerity and the beautiful hearts that 99 percent of this society has. And I don't want to taint that by one guy in Tulsa who's charging five bucks a gallon. I hate that. And if this is something that's taken place on a wide scale, fine, bring it up. But if it's one guy, one gas station, or ten guys and ten gas stations, when the other 30,000 gas stations are handing out American flags and having a blood drive, I don't want to hear it. Because I don't want to taint the one, I don't want to taint the one good thing that's coming from this, which is Americans really stepping up and rallying. Kenny, you're 14. What's up?

31:50 Caller Hey, you guys are awesome. I tried to call yesterday. I thought what you were doing was cool, but it's busy all night.

31:56 Adam Well, that's why we got you tonight.

31:58 Caller Yeah, I called early tonight. But I just woke up yesterday, and one of my mom's friends called me. I was getting ready for school. She was like, there's been bombs. Two planes have gone into the World Trade Center and went into the Pentagon. And I put my mom on, and she just couldn't believe it. We turned on the TV, and I actually, my carpool came, and I had to go to school. We were listening to it unfold on the radio, and at the school when we got there, they told us that they were going to close the school down, and they were going to call the parents and let us go home for the rest of the day. And I didn't have school today either.

32:35 Adam Oh, you son of a bitch. You live in LA, right?

32:38 Caller Yeah, we were right in the center of LA.

32:40 Adam I've been going to school here for twelve years. I never missed one god damn day for anything.

32:46 Caller This day and the big earthquake hit were the only days I've ever gotten up.

32:49 Adam Never made a thing. Once in a while there would be a second stage smog alert. We'd have to sit inside during PE. But that's hardly vacation.

32:59 Caller Yeah.

33:00 Adam All right. So how are you doing with all this?

33:02 Caller I'm just, I was soaking it in today. I must have seen that plane go into the building at least a hundred times. I still can't believe it every time I see it.

33:10 Adam Yeah. It's in a way, it's so spectacular that it's just hard to get around the destruction of human life. I mean, it's hard to factor it in.

33:22 Drew Yeah. Your brain just moves past it. It doesn't let you really see that fully. You know, your brain goes into a sort of a denial mode. Ooh, it's like a dream is how you start thinking.

33:33 Adam No, I think for me, it's that my brain focuses on the sort of- The spectacular nature of it and it becomes like a fireworks show for me. It's like I cannot put the human beings into it.

33:49 Drew Right, that's right. How can you just try to imagine how many floors of people, just where the plane went in and what happened there? How many floors? How many thousands?

33:59 Adam I don't know. I mean, you know, it's like I know that every one of those floors is poured concrete. It's poured on a corrugated pan, basically. It's how they build the steel superstructure up from the outside. Then they put a corrugated pan, like a corrugated roof, and they pour concrete. And each floor should be pumped, poured concrete that's a good six, eight, ten inches thick at least. So if that plane went in two, three floors above you, you shouldn't, it's the fire. It's not so much the weight or the debris. I mean, there shouldn't be that much down force on you. There's gonna be a lot of jet fuel spilling down toward your-

34:46 Drew That's on fire.

34:47 Adam Toward your floor, I would assume. But I don't know, I don't know if the people, and I don't know if we'll ever know, I imagine we'll start to figure things out. But I would imagine just initially, first thought is, the people, two, three floors below may have been all right, initially. Do you know what I'm saying?

35:09 Drew I don't know, but I know what you're saying.

35:12 Adam I mean, there-

35:13 Drew That makes sense.

35:15 Adam There was slabs of concrete every floor, and there was no down-

35:20 Drew Force. The floor wasn't going down.

35:21 Adam Yeah, it was kind of blowing out into a fireball, and who the hell knows? And there goes my keys. But the point is, even watching it on film, it didn't look like much happened below. Windows weren't blowing out or whatever. It just didn't look like so much underneath.

35:36 Drew I read a lot of e-mail stories today. I read a story of a guy who got out, and he was an engineer on the 20th floor, and he knew the building was supposed to move 14 inches, and he felt the impact, and then he felt it move 20 feet, he said. And that's when he knew the building wouldn't stand. It just buckled out 20 feet, he said.

35:52 Adam It just lurched?

35:52 Drew It lurched 20 feet, yeah.

35:54 Adam Right. I heard those. You know, I didn't see it in the films. Yeah, you couldn't see it.

36:00 Drew But 20 feet is so small on a thing that giant scale, you can't see that.

36:06 Adam Yeah, I guess not. All right. Let's talk to Bill, who's 18. Bill?

36:11 Drew Yeah?

36:12 Adam What's up?

36:13 Caller Not much. There was a couple of issues I had with this whole thing. And well, one thing I found out today, I was planning on giving blood, you know, for the whole thing. And I found there was some kind of criteria that you have to have to be able to give blood. They said you had to be at least 17, 110 pounds, no STDs, and that's all fine by me. But then they said you have to have no tattoos or piercings from last year.

36:41 Drew That's interesting.

36:42 Adam Yeah, it is. No blue hair either, said engineer Anderson.

36:47 Drew Yeah, Anderson said no blue hair. I went to give today. I went in to try to give. I went just as the thing was opening up, and they went, thank you very much, but you can make an appointment for next week sometime. Yeah, we are booked.

36:58 Adam Yeah, people are, I found that out today too, not by going in, but by calling, that people have gone in at such large numbers. Yeah. Well, and I mean, look at it this way too. I mean, if you really want to just do the math, you know, 275 million people in this country, how many injured people have they pulled out of the wreckage? 450? A thousand so far?

37:23 Drew Yeah.

37:24 Adam How much blood was spilled as opposed to how much is coming in? You know what I mean? I mean, if 1% of this country went in and gave blood yesterday and today, that's 2 million gallons more than they needed.

37:42 Drew And everybody wants to do something, you know? You want to do what you can do.

37:46 Adam Right.

37:47 Drew There are some funds being formed down here in Los Angeles for the firemen, the fallen firemen. We're going to try to get those numbers.

37:53 Adam Oh, really?

37:54 Drew Yeah, for their families and things.

37:56 Adam Yeah, because, you know, you think about it, the dust will clear and the smoke will clear, and they'll clean it up and they'll put a plaque up and they'll clean up and 8 months will go by and a year will go by and 2 years will go by and we'll have forgotten about this. I mean, we'll remember it, but it's not going to be affecting us on a daily basis. But these firemen, these cops that had a couple of kids, 2, 3, 4 years old, this is a situation where these people are going to have to deal with this, not only emotionally, but just financially.

38:28 Drew Absolutely.

38:29 Adam Practically.

38:30 Drew Yeah.

38:31 Adam You know, you got a mom who has 2 or 3 kids who's taking care of those 2 or 3 kids, all of a sudden there's no income coming in. And that's the kind of thing that goes on for years and years and years. Okay. We're going to take ourselves a break. We're talking about the tragedy yesterday and the aftermath and new things that were learned and new stories and your thoughts and your feelings. We'll get more into that after this.

38:59 Hello? Is this Loveline?

39:00 Caller Call 1-800-LOVE-191. Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back.

39:42 Adam Yep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. We're talking about the tragedy of the, well, you know, tragedy's enough. I don't have to get into it. You guys know the one I'm talking about, right?

40:01 Drew Oh yeah.

40:02 Adam You know what I was thinking about today. How stoked is Paula Poundstone? How stoked is that bitch?

40:10 Drew Even Bill Clinton's happy. A lot of heat off of these people.

40:13 Adam Clinton's happy, Paula Poundstone. Well, what's Clinton been up to?

40:17 Drew Who knows?

40:18 Adam That's a good point. I was just thinking, there's like, you know, they did like, they did like 24 hours straight coverage on this and then real fast the guy went, and Paula Poundstone put in a plea bargain. Anyway, we're going to Beirut live now and I thought, oh, she's feeling so good about herself. Wait a minute, wait a minute. How pumped is Gary Condit?

40:41 Drew That's the one.

40:41 Adam How pumped is Condit about this whole thing?

40:43 Drew That's the one that completely vanished.

40:46 Caller He's the one who bombed everything.

40:48 Adam Oh, you think he did it?

40:49 He's the guy that hijacked the plane.

40:52 Adam It's a very valid, very valid point.

40:55 Drew Ancient theory.

40:57 Adam It makes more sense than a lot of ones I've heard, yeah. Oh, he wasn't piloting the plane, Gary Condit.

41:05 Drew No, it was just his people.

41:07 Adam You know, it's going to be great though. It's going to be great. I'm sure he's going to be on the floor yelling for justice.

41:13 Caller Yeah.

41:16 Drew My wife pointed that one out. She goes, my god, it was 24-7 Condit, now zero.

41:21 Adam Yeah. And yeah, so Paula Poundstone, well, look, here's the way I figure it. Robert Blake can thank Gary Condit for stepping in, and Condit and Paula Poundstone can both thank the nation of Islam. For helping them out. All right, let's talk to Chris, who's 29. Chris?

41:43 Caller Good evening.

41:44 Adam What's up?

41:45 Caller Oh, I just want to say thanks for hosting the special forum tonight. I woke up on Tuesday morning to see this on the television. The first thing I thought when the towers collapsed was, how is it possible that 2000 foot plus structures fall straight down to the ground?

41:58 Drew Yeah.

41:59 Caller I hadn't seen anything in the media that had covered it. And at Minnesota Public Radio tonight, there's a gentleman named Tom Loudon.

42:05 Drew I'm going to stop you, Chris. We wondered that, too. Why didn't they topple over or something? You know, why didn't they go to the science? Right? Then we asked that Adam last night, you and I.

42:12 Adam Yeah. I was, I mean, I could give you some theories after Chris gets done with his. The first thing I thought was, you know, these people who have been demolishing buildings and stadiums for all these years telling you what a science it was? I think a lot of them may be out of work. Like, listen, we'll load up an old DC-9 with some kerosene and take care of it ourselves.

42:33 Drew So what happened, Chris, when you heard about it?

42:34 Caller Well, the gentleman's name is Tom Loudon, I believe. He's one of only two or three companies in the world that do this. They've done over 7,000 demolitions. He said when, of course, when the structure was designed back in the 60s, it was designed to take the hit of a 707, 727.

42:48 Drew The 60s?

42:49 Caller It took the hit fine, but like Adam said earlier, the fire did cause the top to fall. But when the building was designed, the architect, the steel bracing that was on the very outside of the building were a lot of the way to the building. Instead of the structure, so that as it collapsed, level by level, it pretty much naturally imploded, just like it would if a company had rigged it. And it's hard to find goodness.

43:12 Drew I'm not following.

43:14 Adam Okay, well hold on, why aren't you following?

43:17 Drew What their logic is that the external steel structure had anything to do with why it didn't topple?

43:24 Caller The steel structure on the outside, I know everyone has seen all the pictures, and there's one in particular that shows the steel structures in the dark, and it bore a lot of the weight of the building, so that as the top crumbled and brought the weight down in the center, the structure of the building, the skeletal outside structure, was enough to contain that downward force.

43:47 Drew I see.

43:47 Caller So that as it fell level by level, these steel structures would collapse in upon itself.

43:53 Adam Yeah, I think what happened, and you know, I think this is basically how this goes. And I think, Chris, you were going to go on to say that, what if 80, 90 stories had fallen over like an oak tree?

44:07 Caller We'd be counting the bodies in the hundreds of thousands.

44:09 Adam I mean, yeah, literally, because a building that is, you know, 80, 90 stories, I mean, that's thousands of feet in the air. I mean, it's a hundred feet approximately every 10 stories. So, what the hell does that work out to be? The point is, is that thing, if it fell over like a tree was fallen, it would have taken out quite a bit, quite a bit in its path. And who knows who?

44:42 Caller Right.

44:43 Adam Absolutely. And I think what happened was, and it's amazing that it didn't go that way, but the trauma was at the top of the building.

44:53 Caller Right.

44:54 Adam And when it wasn't knocked over by the force of the airplane hitting it, when it withstood that, then the amazing heat generated by that jet fuel melted the metal girders, and those things melt. I mean, the deal is, Drew and I were talking about this. Drew, we cover quite a bit of ground on our way home. I was explaining to Drew that in these high-rise fires, there's these girders, these steel girders, the substructure, the superstructure that the building is made of. It has a fairly low melting point, and this stuff melts, and it buckles, and that's what happens. And that's why sometimes when you go into an underground parking lot and you see some of those, or if you go into and you see a building that's being built new, like you're walking down a sidewalk in Vegas and you see the steel, you'll see that white cottage cheese-like substance that seems to be sprayed all over it, that's fire retardant, so that those don't melt and buckle. But once the heat melted and buckled those things, it actually just sort of came down on itself. And I think once you got the inertia heading straight down, it just kept going. And I think if you'd gotten the inertia going to the side, it would have kept going that way. But once it withstood the airplane ramming into it, and once it started heading down as the girders were melting, starting at the impact area, and then moving down, it just became like, I'm trying to think of what the example is, that boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, straight down. No, not dominoes. There's something that moves up and down. And I'm trying to think what that is. Or maybe I'm making it up because Drew's looking at it in a very strange way.

46:38 Drew It looks like a cartoon-esque type.

46:40 Adam Right.

46:40 Drew You know, funny.

46:41 Adam It's like in a cartoon when they drop the anvil through the top floor, it just goes through every floor. All the inertia was going down, not sideways. And once it got going down, it just kept going straight down. And I guess one of the few things you can look at and say, it could have been worse. It really could have been. Okay, we'll take a break.

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47:55 Adam It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. We're dedicating another night to the tragic events that occurred yesterday.

48:07 Drew And your feelings about it. We haven't heard a lot of feelings tonight, a lot of opinions, but that's how we're feeling about this. It's time to talk about it.

48:13 Adam Yappa? Hey. Hey.

48:15 Caller What's going on?

48:16 Adam Well, I should call you Yappa.

48:18 Yeah, it's Yappa.

48:19 Adam What's up there, Yappa? You're 29.

48:21 Caller I'm 29. In case you wondered about my name, I'm from Denmark.

48:24 Caller I came to the United States when I was six, so please don't make fun, Adam.

48:28 Adam We got no problem with your kind today.

48:30 Caller Hey, I heard the comment that the gentleman made earlier about not being able to donate blood.

48:34 Caller I work for the American Red Cross Blood Services. And the reason for the piercings and the tattoos, and Drew, I'm sure, can back me up on this, is that the hepatitis threat, if you're using dirty needles or things like that, the hepatitis virus can live for a long time even in dried blood.

48:48 So that's what that was about.

48:49 Caller It's not an appearance thing at all.

48:50 Drew Why the blue hair? Oh, no, we know it's not the appearance thing. No, no, no, I thought it was obvious that it was a needle issue.

48:55 Adam We should have discussed it more, but Drew and I both assumed.

48:58 Drew What about the blue hair, though? That's when it confused me.

49:00 Caller I asked the screener and she said Anderson had donated at a different facility. It was not a Red Cross one. I don't have any answer for that. I know that Red Cross does not have any policy or of any type for something like that.

49:09 Drew What about hair dye?

49:10 Adam I have an inside source that says that Anderson chugged two bottles of orange juice and ate five of those large size Mrs. Fields cookies last time he went in there.

49:22 Caller That's why he pissed them off.

49:23 Adam Right, that's why they sent him packet.

49:26 Caller No, even hair dye. I have a friend that works in collections actually and she does the screening and she says there's nothing she can think of with hair dye.

49:32 Adam No, there's nothing even thinking of with hair dye.

49:35 Drew The hepatitis risk may be a little higher in somebody with blue hair.

49:38 Adam The chance of the Prince Albert goes up dramatically with the blue hair.

49:42 Drew Yeah, but do they check for piercings? And is it piercing?

49:45 Caller They don't. They ask questions. They ask have you had any piercings?

49:48 Drew And is it piercing? Yeah, it's within a year, right? All right.

49:51 Adam And I think too, and thanks for clearing that up. Yeah, but we do appreciate it. I think too, when it comes to screening people that are donating blood, they don't think that people are apt to lie about things because it's a voluntary, humanitarian, philanthropic type endeavor. I mean, what's in it for you? You know what I mean? I mean, is it the worst day of your life if some guy says, sorry, we can't stick a needle in your arm and drain a pint of blood from you today for free? Go home. Most people go, all right, I'm going. Let's talk to Nick.

50:27 Drew Except you, you get pissed off if they won't take it because it's a day too early.

50:31 Adam Well, you understand they called me and told me to come out.

50:36 Drew I understand.

50:37 Adam All right. Go ahead, Nick.

50:38 Caller Oh, what's up?

50:39 Adam Hey, Nick.

50:40 Caller Yeah. I can't believe I'm talking to you guys.

50:42 Adam We can't believe we're talking to you, Nick.

50:44 Caller Oh, thanks. It's kind of sad just to see all the people dying. When you hear about the families talking to their family members on the phone when the plane crashed, and then the phone goes dead, I'm sorry. You actually, it's just sad. Yeah. I know most people in my age group don't talk about this, but this is the talk of the school. All the teachers are explaining to us, all my friends are talking about what they were doing and what they felt about it. It's just sad and I can't believe. I keep watching that video of the plane going in, and it just looks like a movie. It doesn't look even real.

51:29 Adam Here's another thing, and thanks Nick. We appreciate you sharing your feelings. This is a time now from a technological standpoint, and everyone's got satellite and cable TV. In the past, when these tragedies happened, if we saw some grainy black and white image of...

51:50 Drew The Hindenburg going...

51:51 Adam Hindenburg catching on fire, or some terrorists in the 73 or 72 Olympics jumping into some building or something, it was so grainy, it was so far away. It looked like footage taken from a B-17 in World War II. It was sterilized by the technology. And I just wonder what kind of overall hardening effect it will have on the young people of this society watching this sort of mass murder and destruction, and seeing it repeatedly. I mean, that's the kind of thing that is burned into you. And I just hope, I mean, only time will tell, but I hope it does not leave permanent scars. Bobak?

52:43 Hi.

52:44 Adam Hey, you're 22. What's up?

52:46 Caller Hi, yeah. Well, you know, I'm here in LA., and it's sort of funny, because I happen to be Persian, but you know, as Persian as, you know, anybody, you know. Yeah, Persian being Middle Eastern.

52:57 Drew As anybody who lives in LA.

52:58 Caller Yeah, exactly. You know, it's sort of like, it's pretty generic ethnicity down here. Just like, you know, anyone who's Latino and anyone, you know, is African-American or anything.

53:06 Adam Well, that's why I made the comment last night for all the people, including Drew and myself and producer Ann and Anderson and everyone who works here at Loveline, worrying about attacks on LA. I don't think the rest of the country looks at, I don't think the rest of the world looks at LA as part of the United States, so we have nothing to worry about.

53:24 Caller Yeah, I know, exactly. I mean, where are they going to hit? The Hollywood sign? There's nothing to worry about.

53:27 Drew We're them, the multicultural, multi-ethnic nature of this city, we're them.

53:34 Adam Yeah, I mean, look, they blow up something in Glendale, they're going to get nothing but Armenians. They're not going to get the white infidel.

53:42 Caller Well, you see, there's the thing though, because I mean, I'm Persian, which has absolutely nothing to do with what's going on, because it's going between, unfortunately, the poor people who are in Afghanistan.

53:50 Adam Hold on, don't play that system of a down, how dare you? Go ahead.

53:54 Caller No, but I'm not going to lie, because now I realize, as soon as it happened, I'm like, I look like Che Guevara, but people don't even realize I'm Middle East, and even my own race. So at the same time, I'm like, I mean, I guess I sort of felt a little bit of a guilty pleasure knowing that I wouldn't be single out, but now I'm watching on television, and it's terrible, I guess it's of the media's prerogative to show the cheering going on in Palestine, you know? But what really crushed me is I moderate a website, and I watch all these people start coming in, you know, from all over the country, and you know, I was expecting them to feel like I was, you know, angry that people had done this, and wanting to, you know, take out the terrorists who were responsible, but then I started, you know, hearing, you know, oh, the Israelis are cheering, and I'm like, how ignorant is that? You know? These are, first of all, obviously the Israelis are the wrong label, considering, you know, those are our Jewish allies.

54:39 Adam Hold on, the Israelis are cheering?

54:41 Caller Well, no, no, no, that's exactly it, but people are sort of mis-conceiving what they're, because they see, you know, in Israel, and, you know, oh, I see, I see, yeah. And I'm actually of Muslim descent, that's horrible.

54:52 Adam Well, listen, here's the problem with people in this part of the world, and, you know, it wasn't a problem until recently, but we have a difficult time discerning the difference between, you know, Palestinians and Israelis and Indians, oftentimes, I mean, Eastern Indians, and we cannot figure out who is who by looking at them, and the names are all sort of, you know, we're at war one minute with one of them, and then they're an ally, and then we're at war with them again, and I think if you stopped your average United States residents and, you know, asked them what the difference was between all these different cultures, I don't think most people could give you a clear answer.

55:39 Caller Yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly, Adam.

55:41 Drew How do you even name the capital countries?

55:43 Caller Yeah, yeah.

55:44 Adam So it's time for you to get an Afro wig, and start to pass yourself off as black.

55:49 Caller Well, here's the funny thing, Adam. I was born in Toronto, raised and served 15 years in Bakersfield before I came down to LA for college. Oh boy. I'm pretty, you know, I've got the long hair, the goatee. Most people think I either look like Che Guevara or Jesus.

56:03 Drew Right.

56:03 Adam Well, you know, Bakersfield is really the Beirut of the West. Oh yes. You'll see it on the sign as you drive in.

56:11 Drew Welcome.

56:12 Adam Welcome to Little Beirut.

56:14 Caller What sort of amazed me though is, you know, here I am, you know, I thought I was safe because of the way I look, which is sort of a cop out, but you know, it was pretty much a truth.

56:21 Adam Well, is anybody hassled you?

56:23 Caller Well, here's the surprise to me. I was just, I was tonight, you know, at the bank because I'm a college graduate, you know, working with, working out with some colleagues and friends at a local gym. And then all of a sudden one of them just comes up to me, you know, I'm a very liberal guy, you know, just sort of, you know, we always would talk, joke about, you know, you know, racial oppression about other people. Well, one of them comes up to me and it's sort of like, so Bobak, where can I get a checkered handkerchief from my head? And I was just looking at it and I'm like, first of all, a wrong ethnicity, second of all, you know, whoa, I've never been outside of the United States, well I've been to Europe, but you know, that's like...

56:54 Adam Right, but you know, you got to understand...

56:58 Drew I'm just one of your jack-off friends. I can imagine Adam's friends, if some Italian did something. Please.

57:03 Adam And I know, again, and I spoke about this earlier, I hate to see the beautiful, heartfelt outpouring of emotion and donated blood and time, and the one good thing that's come of this whole thing is really seeing people rally around strangers, people coming together who've never met, don't have anything to gain from it, that are just pouring their hearts out and their time and their money for the cause. And it really saddens me when they focus on the side of, you know, some Palestinian cab driver was yanked out and beaten up in New York or something like that. You know, you realize this is going to happen. But I think it's been held to a minimum.

57:48 Drew I hope so.

57:49 Adam I really do. I have not heard too many cases of it, have you?

57:53 Drew We have matured as a nation, I think, to that extent. Right. It's not about color or culture. It's about a certain sub-segment of the world that is hell-bent on disaster.

58:06 Adam Right. And who need to be dealt with. Corey?

58:11 Drew Yeah, hey.

58:11 Adam You're 16. What's up?

58:13 Caller I was talking. I heard you guys talking earlier about how people were on the fifth floor and not being able to survive that kind of drop.

58:20 Drew Yeah.

58:20 Caller Well, I heard about some guy who called from his cell phone when he was trapped and was on the 80th floor when it collapsed.

58:29 Drew When it collapsed or when it restarted from?

58:31 Caller When it collapsed and he was like survived and calling from his cell phone.

58:37 Adam Well, you know, listen, if you take 20,000 people, put them in a confined space and have all hell break loose, there's going to be five stories of people that were, I don't mean five stories tall. I mean five tales of guys of miraculous survival.

58:56 Drew But his point is that you're not going to hear much of it. How did he fall 80 stories and survive?

59:00 Adam Well, I don't know and you don't know and he may not even know. But the point is, is if you have hundreds and thousands of people and you put them in a small area and have something catastrophic happen, there's going to be a few survivors. And I guarantee anyone who survives is going to have a miraculous tale of survival.

59:21 Drew And what's that Cory?

59:22 Adam What's that?

59:22 Caller I haven't found him yet.

59:23 Drew They haven't found him yet?

59:24 Caller No. He's still buried down there.

59:26 Drew But they haven't been talking to him.

59:28 Adam You know the thing, I, Drew, I think about our cell phone conversations and how the phone cuts out three, four, five times on the 20-minute ride home through this beautiful city known as Los Angeles. And I think to myself, that would be a fitting end for me to be trapped under some rubble, not far from help, but not getting proper cell phone.

59:53 Drew No reception.

59:54 Adam Reception. Yeah. I could, I, I, you know, really, I'm surprised to hear about all these cell phones working through all of this.

1:00:01 Drew That crossed my mind many times.

1:00:02 Adam I can't drive through the goddamn 405 Pass with the thing working. I can't imagine dropping 80 stories and being trapped under several tons of rubble having the thing work. And literally, Drew and I drive home, I can see his tail, his headlights in my rear view, and I can't talk to him. Yes, what's up?

1:00:26 Dr. Drew was talking about that no one is really calling about their, talking about their feelings, but I have some, as I'm sure a lot of people do, have incredibly strong feelings about this and going constantly back and forth from complete and total sadness to absolute rage. And one minute watching the news and hearing the stories about people calling on their cell phones from the plane, and being incredibly sad, and then hearing about protests in Seattle, people saying, give peace a chance, which absolutely just enrages me because I'm not a violent person, I'm not the first person to say, let's just bomb the hell out of everyone over there. But in a case like this, I mean, there is no other option.

1:01:09 Drew Well, if there was some example in history where humans that behave like this responded to something different than overwhelming force, please show me.

1:01:17 Please.

1:01:18 Drew Because, you know, we do in psychiatric hospitals, when people start behaving wacky, when they get very violent and aggressive and delusional, you get a show of force together because that's the only thing that works. Whether you're in a psychiatric hospital dealing with an aggressive delusional person or on an airplane dealing with one, the only thing, I mean, the only thing is an overwhelming show of force. So that's what you have to do. If anything else worked, by all means, bring it on.

1:01:45 Adam Well, and throughout history, as Drew said, from, you know, Hitler to Mussolini to Idi Amin, to Stalin, the list, Genghis Khan, the list just keeps going on and on and on. You hold hands, pull out some flowers and try to pass the peace pipe around and these people just stomp you. I mean, I agree with these people who don't want, you know, here's their thing. It's like we don't want to see any more people die. I agree. That's why we got to stomp this group out. We don't want to see any more people die. And if they're going to die, it's going to be them. I mean, it's going to be the people that brought it on.

1:02:25 Caller Exactly.

1:02:26 And that's why I, you know, I'm not just for quick retaliation.

1:02:30 Caller I am completely in agreement.

1:02:33 You try and find out exactly who is responsible and you go after them at that point. And as far as, like I said too, and I'm not a violent person or anything like that, but I mean, I'm 33 years old and I have a couple of bad knees, but I would beg the president to go over and fight right now if I could.

1:02:51 Adam Yeah, I think it would be great too. Not actually, you know, I like to be on the aircraft carrier.

1:02:57 Drew Or just to be able to tell, just ask the president if you could.

1:03:00 Adam Yeah, just please, I could make the newspaper. Corolla asks Bush if he can go over there and fight. Bush says, no, we need you stateside on the radio. Working propaganda campaign.

1:03:09 Drew Can you get a feel, though, for what happened in 1930, wherever that 38th, you know, why people all of a sudden rallied the way they did? 41. 41, because six months ago I would have gone, gee, how did they, what happened, what was that all about? How did they, now all of a sudden you kind of get it.

1:03:23 Adam No, we were discussing last night that I think younger people in this nation have gotten a bad shake. Where people said, look, everyone's out for themselves, are too busy playing with Nintendo and doing an amyl nitrate and ecstasy and going to raves to pull it together, you know, the last great generation was the generation that fought World War II and if something happened, God forbid, in this day and age, I don't think we could cut it. Well, we could cut it. And I think that's clear. And I think when push comes to shove, people are gonna put down the X, the Nintendo control joystick and get to get busy kicking some foreign ass. And I think we're gonna see that. Also, it's a different kind of war now, which is we don't need the numbers that we needed before. I mean, in the past, World War II, we needed numbers. We needed a lot of men to sign up, to get onto troop transports and head overseas. We don't need that anymore. We just need support and we need tax dollars and we need superior technology. And we'll let the experts go over there and do some surgery on our foes. And that doesn't mean there's not going to be some bloodshed on our side. But we do not need farmers to drop their pitchforks and head into recruiting offices around the country. That's not necessary anymore. And thank God. Jason?

1:04:56 Caller Yeah.

1:04:56 Adam You're 26.

1:04:58 Caller Yeah.

1:04:58 Hey, the guy just called and he was talking about the guy was actually, or I'm sorry, I'm all tongue-tied. The guy on the 89th floor that fell, he was actually inside the building when it collapsed on the 89th floor and they've already dug him out and they interviewed him in the hospital.

1:05:14 Caller Wow.

1:05:15 So, but yeah, I don't understand how he made it through that. I mean, like you said, that there's going to be a few cases where people make it, but...

1:05:21 Drew He must have gone down in slow motion in some spot where nothing on top of him, maybe it slid off to one direction and then his segment just sort of slowly collapsed or something.

1:05:32 Adam As I said, I don't think we could dream up a scenario in which anyone would live, but if you have 20,000 people, 10 of them are going to live. It's still not great odds. I mean, yeah, go ahead.

1:05:45 Oh, I was going to say, and around here it just seems like no one's really, I don't know, you get the callers and stuff on the radio that are in range, but there's a real, I guess, maybe it's still disbelief. It happened 3,000 miles away from us, and I don't think people really are fathoming that we're going to war yet, but I think people should realize that it'll be a big, it'll be a lot different. I mean, you think that on a day when nothing was going on, these people hijacked all these planes and flew them into our buildings and killed almost as many people possibly as when we were killed in the whole entire Vietnam War, if we start bombing our country, there will be more retaliations here on American soil, and I don't think that's really setting in on what people...

1:06:26 Adam You know, it is something that I thought about initially, which is they throw a punch, we counterpunch back, and these are the kind of people that are going to want to throw another punch. On the other hand, the majority of these people in this part of the world and the ones that live in this country, the overwhelming majority of these people are not terrorists, as we talked about last night. They're good people. They're like everyone else. They're trying to work. They're worried about their family. They're worried about their health, and they're worried about paying their mortgage. There's a small, fringe, fanatical group that unfortunately is real bad PR for the rest of that world. You think we act as if we don't kill every one of them, they're going to send a new one over every week. I don't think that's true. You get rid of a few of the main dudes over there, like Ben Laden. This is a guy who's a multi-millionaire who's made it his life's work to reign terror on the United States and any of our allies, especially Israel, and you get rid of a guy, you cut the head off of a guy like that, and the body's going to come, the body's going to hit the ground, and there's just not that many people that have that much energy. There's a few of them, but I believe we get rid of some of the right guys. I mean, look at it this way. It's starting to look like it's this Ben Laden guy who masterminded this thing. Well, we've known about this guy for 15 years, and we've been after him for 10 years, and we haven't gotten to him. What if we had gotten to him 8, 10 years ago, 2 years ago, 5 years ago? Would this have ever even happened? I don't think so. And by the way, we do this, whether it's Gary Condit or Ben Laden, we lose interest. You know what I mean? Here's a guy everyone was after 3 years ago, members of FBI, 10 most wanted lists, and all the pictures and stuff. And he was gone. And by the way, when a guy like that is out of the scene for a few years, that's the time to start worrying, by the way, if you think about it. When a guy like that is laying low, yeah, what do you think he's doing? Okay. We're going to... And by the way, I don't know, it's something that popped in my head a couple of times when they talked about this guy who fell 89 stories and managed to survive, and how did he do it. It always reminds me of the story of another time this country was at war, in World War II, when we were fighting the Germans. They had the Bismarck. It was a battleship that they pretty much thought was unsinkable. It was the biggest one in the German fleet. It was the biggest one in the ocean. And it was just this battleship that would just take out anything in its path. It had the biggest guns and the longest range and the best armament and the best technology. And it got into a skirmish with a British ship called the Hood. And it fired like one round and it hit its ammunition center and the ship just went up. And there was like 1450 guys on the Hood and two or three guys survived.

1:09:42 Drew On the Bismarck, man?

1:09:43 Adam On the Hood that the Bismarck took out. Later on we took out the Bismarck.

1:09:48 Drew I see, I see.

1:09:48 Adam The English did. But the point is, is, you know, you talk about it. I don't know how one minute there's 1400 and 1500 guys walking around on a ship and the next minute there's two guys floating in the water. And those are the only two guys who are alive. So how does this happen? I don't know, but it will and it does. And hopefully they'll find more of these guys. We'll be back.

1:10:12 Caller Loveline, Loveline, we'll be right back.

1:10:48 Hey, hey.

1:10:49 Adam Yeah.

1:10:50 Caller All right.

1:10:51 Drew Here we are. Another joyous night.

1:10:53 Adam Yeah. Yeah, I was just thinking about, we're not just talking about war. Having a lot of good discussions during the break. And many, many a war has been started over the killing of civilians. I mean, we always think of Pearl Harbor. But World War I, Well, that was killing a prince. They killed the crown prince of like, I don't know, Hungary or Bratislava, Bratislava, Maca or whatever. They assassinated a crown prince in one of these little nations. And that started that. And with us, they sunk the Lusitania, I believe that drew us into this. It's the same sort of thing, essentially, which is you have a group of civilians who are sort of going about their business. You murder those civilians and the country says, game on, and that's essentially, theoretically, most probably, what's happening now. You came over and murdered some civilians and it is now game on. The difference is, we don't know if these 12 or 15 fundamentalist guys represent the views of the entire country, but here's the problem. We can only sit on so many F14s for so long, with so many Sidewinders and Tomahawk Whistles. We can only sit on that for long.

1:12:33 Drew With this kind of tragedy?

1:12:36 Adam Yes. I mean, what I'm saying is, for anybody who's interested in giving this country a go, we are essentially like Mike Tyson, except for we have a good nature, but we're only going to take a punch in the stomach by a 110 pound guy for so long before we just decide to drop that right hand.

1:12:53 Drew Well, the other thing is, if it doesn't represent the views of those countries, fine, hand over the guys that did this then. Well, that's fine.

1:13:00 Adam That's the thing, too. And listen, we've been asking them to hand these guys over for years and they haven't done it. And now, and here's the other thing I wanted to say, which is a lot of people are going to say, you know, well, maybe it's not fair what we're going to do or there's going to be innocent people hurt or there's going to be this and there's going to be that, but here's the deal. There was many an opportunity to do the right thing for many a year, and they didn't do it. Do they deserve to be killed for it? Probably not. But when you F around with guys that are bigger than you, Ace happens. And I think Ace is going to happen. And I wanted to say to the folks, not that we have any listening, but I was thinking, a lot of these guys think when they die they're just going up to bang the hell out of virgins. I mean, that's what a lot of that religion ascribes. And, if that's what you believe, this is going to be real good news for you, because we're going to get you there, just a little bit sooner than you thought. There shouldn't be, you shouldn't have any difficulty with that, by the way. You don't even have to leave your house. John?

1:14:10 Caller Yeah?

1:14:10 Adam You're 26.

1:14:12 Caller That's right.

1:14:13 Adam Drew, how freaked out would you be, one second, how freaked out would you be if, hopefully 50 years from now when you die, you ascended to heaven and you saw a whole bunch of Islamic guys banging the bejesus out of virgins? You'd be like, holy Christ, they were right.

1:14:32 Caller Time to convert.

1:14:33 Drew Oh man.

1:14:35 Adam That will be my hell. I spend hell in heaven watching Islamic guys bang the bejesus out of virgins.

1:14:42 Drew What's up John?

1:14:43 Adam But seriously, a bunch of guys with turbans on just banging the hell out of virgins.

1:14:49 Caller That sounds pretty good. I think I'm converting right now.

1:14:51 Adam Yeah.

1:14:52 That sounds like a good deal.

1:14:54 Caller What Adam said about USA being Mike Tyson and the other countries being 110-pound weaklings, I agree. The only thing is I'm seeing in the newspaper and I'm hearing a lot of talk and reading on the internet that people seem to think that we're going to go bomb the hell out of some country. I think even though we are the big guy in the world, the United States, I think we're kind of like a bunch of sissies. In Iran and Iraq and Pakistan and Afghanistan, you steal someone's sheep, you get your hand cut off, you rape someone's wife, you get your penis cut off. You do something bad, they kill you here. You could go on a murdering spree in a state, besides Texas, they'll kill you in Texas, and you get to go to jail, you get three meals a day, you get to watch TV, you get to lift weights.

1:15:32 Adam You get married and have kids from yourself.

1:15:35 Drew But interestingly, what I find...

1:15:38 Caller Or someone rapes a woman and they go to jail, the trial goes on for a year or two, there are more years in jail. We don't really do anything. I think people think we're going to go on and bomb Pakistan or bomb Afghanistan. I think we're not going to do anything. And even if we did do something and get the 15 or 20 guys, is that going to give us satisfaction? We get 20 of their guys and they get what? 20,000 of ours?

1:15:57 Adam No.

1:15:57 Caller I mean, is that going to bring you satisfaction? We killed 20 people. They've killed more of our firefighters. 200 firefighters are missing.

1:16:04 Adam Well, John, first off, your number of 20 people is sort of fantasy. There will be more than that. But, you know, here's the thing. We will do something, and I'll tell you why, because Bush is just backed his way into the office, and whoever's around him is telling him, look, you want to make another run at this. You know, you got a long time in this office. You're going to have to stand up and do something now. I guarantee he will make a showing. He will have to make a showing.

1:16:35 Caller I'm hearing that from a lot of people. I really don't think.

1:16:38 Drew You know what else I find interesting? All that our concern about how we treat one another. Those are things we have talked about in this show before. And those sorts of issues suddenly melt away. And I think in this whole uniting that is going on, you could be standing next to somebody that was a criminal who suddenly will be with you. You know what I mean? People are lining up together.

1:16:58 Adam Yeah, I agree.

1:16:59 Drew So that clemency that we have is suddenly working in our way, in our favor. Because people, they know they've been treated kept clemently and are okay with the system that did that for them.

1:17:09 Adam I think there's, I think what we're seeing in this nation is, is there's a fair amount of this country, this country's populace that does nothing but complain about this country. And when they have an opportunity to look around to see where they're living and who their neighbors are and what their opportunities are.

1:17:30 Drew And what real threats are.

1:17:31 Adam And what real threats are and what real oppression is and what real danger is and that in, Shut the F up. In Israel, this kind of stuff is a daily occurrence, not of this magnitude, but you, you're scared to go in and get a slice of pizza or go to a marketplace or go sit in a crowded movie theater that they realize, hey, maybe we should stop bad mouthing this country. This country has its faults, but show me one that's better. And by the way, as I've said many a time, why are you here? Why are you here? If this country is so screwed up, why are you all here and why are you all dying to get in? Do you know what I mean? Why do we have to constantly criticize something that is so much better than anything else out there? Look around, throw a dart at the map, see where it lands. You want to go there? You want to go to Africa? Northern or Southern Africa? You want to go to the Soviet, former Republic of the Soviet Union? Where do you want to go on this map beside this country? Possibly Canada. Where do you want to go? Which by the way, that's their country because we let them be that. The second they start trouble, we'll be part of this country. The point is, this is the greatest country on earth and I think people are starting to sort of realize, look, let's stop looking around and beating ourselves up. The enemy is not within these borders. It's outside of this country's borders. And we got to go over there and start to stomp at a little ass. And I'm glad to see people a little bit fired up about that. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. And I know that may sound crass, but it's time to show people why we're superpower, why we're the number one military presence on this planet. And we got to stop second guessing ourselves and pussyfooting around so much and stomp some serious ass. Because that, as Drew stated, is the only thing that these people understand is pure in-your-face terror. That's all they understand.

1:19:34 Caller You got another question, Wendell?

1:19:34 Adam Bring it on!

1:19:35 Hurry up!

1:19:36 Caller Hurry up! Get it out of my face right now!

1:19:38 Push! Push!

1:19:39 Caller Push you nasty dung!

1:19:43 Adam That's who we need to send over there to start whooping some ass. And it's going to be done. And I'll tell you what. If we take out a few targets that weren't on the menu, and if a couple innocent people get hurt, and if we destroy a few buildings that we didn't want to destroy, so be it. Let it be a nice reminder to all that are watching what we're capable of doing. And if they think we can F up and take out something that ain't on the menu, good! Let them think. Let them think we're capable of doing a little carpet bombing every once in a while. Julie?

1:20:17 Hi.

1:20:18 Adam You're 22. What's up?

1:20:19 Caller Yeah. I'm just, you know, I'm sitting at home for the past two days, kind of flipping through all the news channels. And I just really want to do something. And I...

1:20:30 Drew Go give blood.

1:20:32 Caller I can't donate blood.

1:20:33 Drew Okay. Send money to the Fireman Relief Fund.

1:20:38 Adam What about you send blood to the Fireman Relief Fund?

1:20:41 Drew No, I don't think it's good.

1:20:42 Adam No.

1:20:43 Drew What else can you do, you know?

1:20:45 Adam Well, listen, here's something you can do, Julie, or just in general. And this goes for everybody except for me. I'm, you know, literally a millionaire.

1:20:55 Drew Whatever.

1:20:56 Adam This event struck, you know, a day ago and everyone's thinking, what can they do? And my fear is three days from now, everyone will be thinking, where can I get my next beer? And there are people that need help in this country 365 days out of the year.

1:21:14 Drew Right. I was thinking this too.

1:21:15 Adam And this is, this, this, what this can do, I mean, if you really want to, and if anyone listening wants to honor the people that died in this tragedy, do something for this country.

1:21:30 Drew Show up your own community. Yeah, I mean, go serve food at a homestead or something.

1:21:33 Adam Right, go get involved with the mentoring program and get yourself a little sister and help some five-year-old kid who doesn't have a good shake. Make a difference. Not something that relates specifically to this tragedy, but that relates to the United States and this country and your fellow man.

1:21:55 Drew It pays tribute on behalf of the people that died, maybe not in vain.

1:22:00 Adam I said that ten minutes ago. Hey Julie. So think in those terms.

1:22:06 Caller Yeah, yeah, no, I agree with you a lot, but I'm just wondering if you have any thoughts about people's sudden reaction to wanting to help.

1:22:17 Adam I think it's a really healthy, natural, and good impulse, and I'm glad that people...

1:22:24 Drew And don't let it dissipate...

1:22:25 Adam .have that impulse.

1:22:27 Drew Let it move you.

1:22:27 Adam Yeah, like I said, go, you know, you're 22. It sounds like you got some stuff to offer. Go down and mentor one of those young girls. Yeah, and make you feel good. I did it. I actually did it with a guy. I wanted him to give me a check, but it felt good. It feels nice. You could go hang out with some kid you don't know once a week and buy him a burrito and try to tell him the difference between right and wrong. Yeah, good times. All right, let's talk to James. He's 24. James?

1:23:00 Caller Yeah.

1:23:01 Adam What's up?

1:23:01 Caller Not much. What's happening?

1:23:04 Drew Hi, James.

1:23:05 Caller How's it going? Adam, Drew? Good.

1:23:07 Drew What's up?

1:23:08 Caller I just think that, you know, I think it was bad what happened with the cab driver and everything like that, you know, but I think in a lot of ways, the American public is fed up with a lot of things besides this, you know, that people come over and come to our country and become citizens, but yet they walk up and down the street and don't speak English. And I'm not John Rocker by no means, nor am I racist. I just think that, you know, this is like, I don't know, the straw that broke the camel's back or whatever you want to say.

1:23:39 Adam Yeah. I think we bend over backwards to be tolerant, to not be called racist or xenophobes in this country, to the point where we start ignoring the better good of the country.

1:23:53 Drew Absolutely. That has to be balanced out.

1:23:56 Adam Right. Yeah. You don't want to toss some guy out based on his religion or the color of his skin. On the other hand, when we stop requiring people to even speak the language of the country and start bending over backwards, where as if, well, you don't speak English, we'll make street signs in your language and we'll have classes in schools that cater to, well, eventually this country will not be this country anymore. It will be a whole bunch of small countries made up of the little groups that came over and were catered to.

1:24:29 Caller It will be like Russia.

1:24:31 Adam Right, and listen, all the folks that are coming over here from wherever they're coming over here from, we are saving you from yourself. Believe me, there's a reason you've come over here.

1:24:43 Caller It's the greatest place to live in the world.

1:24:45 Adam Of course, and look, if your fantasy is to come over here and recreate your country, well, then where are you going to flee from 20 years from now? This is the most retarded strategy I've ever heard in my life, which is, our country sucks, let's come over to your country, but we'll get pissed off if you try to make it like your country. We like to make it like our country.

1:25:08 Caller You know, what if we came over here and made it just like what we left? You know, I mean, that would be pretty retarded. Right.

1:25:15 Adam That is not the plan. Listen, and I know, and I think this country suffers, and thanks for calling, James, from a lot of guilt.

1:25:25 Drew About a lot of everything.

1:25:26 Adam Because we've done a lot of things in our day. Oh, we were the only country that's dropped an atomic bomb. Two of them on another country. We hear that a lot. Of course, we dropped it on the country that started a cowardly sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, and we did it to win a war and save a lot of innocent lives. If we did a mainland invasion of Japan. But the point is, is we beat ourselves up about a lot of stuff in this country. And I think we ought to stop doing that for a minute. And I think people are. I think people have, I think we've stopped beating ourselves up and we're feeling a little angry. We're feeling like it's time to stomp a little 110 pound ass. And we'll do that after the break.

1:26:17 Caller Love Line with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

1:26:46 Adam This is Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew. We're still taking your calls on the tragic events of the last 40 hours or so. And let's get back to the phone and speak to Desiree, who's 30. Desiree?

1:27:00 Caller Hello. Hello. We're one of the weird people that don't have a television. We just use it for videos.

1:27:08 Drew Okay.

1:27:09 Caller I can only go by my feelings on what's happening. And my husband's in Tennessee, and he's supposed to come home on Friday. I'm going to cry.

1:27:19 Drew He got stuck in Tennessee, or this is part of how it was planned?

1:27:22 Caller Well, this is work.

1:27:23 Drew All right. He won't be home on Fridays. Forget about that.

1:27:26 Caller He was already there.

1:27:27 Drew Yeah, still though, I don't care what ticket he has, it's going to be delayed.

1:27:30 Caller Right. So from me, on this end, being like, okay, I'm a mom, I'm dealing with watching everything that's happened through what I read and what I hear, and how people are reacting to it, but for me, I'm freaking out because it's like, okay, he has to fly home.

1:27:50 Drew I'm flying on Friday. At least I'm planning on it, and I actually feel like I'm going to be safer this week than I would have been last week.

1:27:59 Caller Yeah.

1:28:00 Drew He flew out to Tennessee in an unsafe world and he's flying back in a safer world.

1:28:05 Caller True.

1:28:06 Adam Yeah. I've said this before. I'll say it again. I think we're further away from our next terrorist episode.

1:28:17 Drew The farthest away.

1:28:18 Adam The farthest away.

1:28:19 Drew Yeah.

1:28:19 Adam I really do. Because how these people work is they work when we become, when the giant falls asleep. When the giant falls asleep, they run up and kick the giant in the nuts. And then they run. But when the giant gets kicked in the nuts and hops to its feet and starts looking around for some ass to kick, they're nowhere to be found. And rightfully so. I mean, these are people who do not have the technology, they don't have the numbers, they don't have the weapon systems, they're not capable. If they were capable of doing more, they would do more. They wait until we become complacent and that's just what happened. Everything, you know, no one was thinking about it. People were talking about anthrax in the New York subway a year or two ago. There's all sorts of speculation. But admit it, I think people had basically thought nothing's happened. And it's been a while. It's been quite some time. And we became complacent and they jumped on it. And now everyone's at full alert. And this would be the worst possible time, percentage-wise, of them completing whatever horrible task they had in mind. So as far as...

1:29:34 Drew And if they want to sacrifice themselves to get as many wives as possible, they got to be sure that they execute.

1:29:38 Adam Yeah. And you say wives, but it's virgins. They get the bank. So here's the deal, Desiree. I understand you're upset and you're worried. And I wouldn't want a loved one out of town either at this time. But realistically, there's probably no better, safer time for your husband to take a flight back to LA.

1:29:59 Caller Okay. So it's normal for me to freak out?

1:30:02 Drew Yeah. Oh, yeah. Everyone's freaking out about everything.

1:30:04 Adam It's normal, but really rationally, there couldn't be a better time. There's probably no better time to walk the streets of New York at night. You know what I'm saying?

1:30:17 Drew That's right.

1:30:17 Caller Yeah.

1:30:18 Adam Okay, Desiree. Take care of yourself.

1:30:20 Caller Thanks.

1:30:21 Adam All right. Let's talk to Brandis. Brandis?

1:30:26 Hello.

1:30:26 Adam Hey, you're 27.

1:30:27 Caller I am.

1:30:28 Adam What's up?

1:30:29 Caller I was sitting here trying to cope, talking with my best pal, Nish. She was telling me about the three men in the park that were arrested for celebrating.

1:30:42 Adam Which park was that?

1:30:43 Caller The park in New York.

1:30:45 Adam Okay.

1:30:46 Caller Three, and I think they were Arabic men, I can't be sure. They were arrested because they were celebrating.

1:30:52 Adam Right.

1:30:52 Caller And so, and that made me sick. I hadn't heard that before. And I just got to thinking, you know, when we get our vengeance on these people and do what we're going to do, and I didn't think there was any better way than to get on national radio, maybe we should just think about, you know, perhaps not celebrating it publicly or I hope we won't. It made me so ill.

1:31:15 Drew I agree. I hope we won't. I hope we'll just show quiet resolve.

1:31:18 Caller Because they're going to mourn as well. I mean, it's going to be horrible. Innocent people will be killed, I'm sure. But we just thought that it was really important for people to not jump the gun and go, woo-hoo, because of course we're going to be glad in some sort of way. But publicly we need to not, we need to contain ourselves.

1:31:39 Drew Agreed.

1:31:40 Adam Yeah, I think it's a good point. And I think we will.

1:31:43 Drew We will celebrate?

1:31:45 Adam No, I think we will be quiet. I think this country like they did in the Gulf War will, I remember the Super Bowl with the God bless America and the American flags everywhere and the blue angels flying over the stadium and all that kind of stuff. I mean, it's a pride sort of celebration, but it's not an in-your-face touchdown dance sort of celebration. I think there's a difference. And I think hopefully if and when any retribution occurs or if a war breaks out, you're going to see a lot of pride around here, but you're not going to see a lot of name calling, finger pointing and kicking people when they're down. Jesse, how are you guys doing? Year 23, real fast, buddy.

1:32:32 Caller Well one of the things I first want to say to everyone who has been affected by this, the whole world is praying for you all and we really hope that everything pulls through okay for as many people as possible. But a couple of things that have been important is things that you've already touched on like you know we don't know who did this, we don't know what the hell have been laid in. Could be the IRA for all we know. But I think most importantly is how this is going to affect us in security. One thing I've been seeing online is talk of like air marshals like they have on some freight lines where there's somebody on board who is trained, bonded and armed with weaponry so that we can fight this kind of thing and I think it's been a really interesting thought.

1:33:13 Drew Israeli has it on all their airlines. Israel has it on all their planes.

1:33:17 Adam I had to cut them off because we're running late. Hey, my thought is air traffic has gotten out of control in the last five years, ten years anyway. Look, if they got to start charging extra $150 bucks to get to New York and it thins the herd just a little bit, so be it. So be it. I mean, if you take ten percent of the people that are currently flying and put them on a bus or a train and leave it to the folks who want to pay a little extra for the security in the marshals and so on and so forth, the retrofitting that goes on in these planes, so be it. That's fine with me and hopefully the direction will go. We'll be back.

1:33:58 Caller Okay, so I know there's nothing wrong with me. So what's up?

1:34:00 Caller So I was like you and I used to think that these datelines were totally cheesy.

1:34:03 Drew Why can't I meet anybody?

1:34:04 Caller But I tried everything else and thought, what the hell? So I called the dateline and actually met a cool guy.

1:34:08 Caller I called the dateline and I hooked up with some cool people.

1:34:10 Caller Believe it or not, other normal people are out there looking too.

1:34:13 Drew 877-889-DATE.

1:34:16 Caller 1-800-LOVE-191.

1:34:18 Caller We'll be right back.

1:34:51 Adam All right, that is about it. I just want to answer Chuck real fast. He's 19. He wants to know what does he think our foreign policy is doing to anger these nations. And first, it's helping out Israel, which is their arch enemy over there, and aligning ourselves with Israel. That's number one. Number two, our presence. Just having forces in Saudi Arabia is one thing. Bin Laden is really P.O.ed about it. They don't want us there. So we're there in that area. That's one thing. And we're helping out their arch enemy. That is another thing. So it's between those two things. That's enough for them to want to retaliate. All right, we'll be back tomorrow night. And maybe that's more normal. Love Line will be back to a more normal love line. I'm sure we'll still field some questions on this, but it'll be who's coming in here. Newfound glory will be in here. And I think even though this will come up, I think we'll head a little more back on the old Love Line track. But if you have questions or comments, we'll get into it tomorrow night too. And until next time, Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo. A lot of these guys think when they die, they're just going up to bang the hell out of virgins. I mean, that's what a lot of that religion ascribes. And if that's what you believe, this is going to be real good news for you because we're going to get you there. Just a little bit sooner than you thought.

1:36:21 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Engel. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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Wednesday, September 12, 2001