Episode 1000754886740

1:01 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.

1:13 Adam Hey, everybody. Loveline. Hey, that's scary.

1:19 Drew Spooky.

1:19 Adam We got a real special Loveline show planned for you tonight. Tonight, me and Drew are going to talk to very, very scary, scary callers. Drew, shut the door, would you, honey bun?

1:31 Drew I'll wait for a coffee.

1:32 Adam Thank you. And maybe a little lightning round tonight. Work the traffic in and the weather and the surf report.

1:40 Drew Another mattress in Lanes last night.

1:44 Adam That may be worked into the lightning round tonight. Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Addiction Medicine Specialist, everybody. And he looks like a gay Merlin or possibly a Doug Henning's homo brother tonight.

1:58 Drew Oh, really? Does Doug Henning paint himself up like this?

2:00 Adam He wore jumpsuits who would have looked like that.

2:04 Drew His posters and things always have to be kind of rainbow.

2:07 Adam Yes, yes. Drew's puss was airbrushed.

2:12 Drew Yeah.

2:14 Adam Is that all right with you?

2:16 Drew Well, you know, the kids were dead doing it.

2:18 Adam All right. They look extra super gay.

2:23 Drew And I saw a rock horror picture show for the first time in my life.

2:26 Adam Drew has, well, hold on a second. Drew has a, essentially like a galaxy painted on his forehead and on his cheeks and on his chin. He has a star and it's all baby blue, white and sprinkly shiny sparklies. It's some of the gayest paint I've ever seen on a man. And why isn't it on your face? Why is it just on your forehead and around your chops and chin?

2:54 Drew The guy just did it there.

2:56 Adam I see. How much does that cost?

2:58 Drew I don't know. The guy was just doing everybody.

3:00 Adam Oh really?

3:00 Drew Yeah.

3:01 Adam Where was this?

3:01 Drew At a friend's party.

3:03 Adam Good times.

3:05 Drew Paulino was dressing like a tiger and he did a tiger face on her that was insane. A leopard.

3:09 Adam Oh really?

3:09 Drew Yeah. That was nice.

3:11 Adam Let me, you know, see, that's the whole thing about running with your crowd, Drew. You go to a party and there's just stuff there. There's those giant jump around inflatable rooms for the kids. They rented a pop-a-shot and a mule for people to ride around on. There's a full spread. The kind of parties I was used to go into were like, if you're lucky, somebody made some cupcakes. And then as I got older, it was the party where, as you went to the fridge and tried to grab a beer, some guy tackled you and told you that was his six-pack.

3:46 Drew That's coming.

3:48 Adam Is that coming for your kids?

3:49 Drew Yeah, for the kids.

3:50 Adam I don't know. See, I think they just think every party has a whole bunch of like expensive freebies. You know what I mean?

3:55 Drew Activities, yeah.

3:56 Adam Yeah, activities. That's unheard of for the poor people.

4:02 Drew Believe me, it's not something that occurs to me even.

4:06 Adam You had a psychic and a hop around at your last party.

4:09 Drew That's my wife. You know what I'm saying?

4:10 Adam Yeah. What that psychic caused, by the way?

4:13 Drew I have no idea.

4:14 Adam Yeah, never did get that.

4:15 Drew I carefully did not want to know.

4:18 Adam She was real good except for she forgot about the September 11th tragedy.

4:23 They all forgot about it.

4:24 Drew They all need to turn in their licenses.

4:26 Adam They didn't see that one coming. They did know that somebody's mother-in-law was going to get laid off from work.

4:36 Drew And they wouldn't find Sandra Levy.

4:38 Adam And they wouldn't find Sandra Levy, but they just didn't get the negative energy of the 6,000 people that died. It's interesting how they missed that one. So, Drew's looking extra gay tonight.

4:52 Drew Extra super gay.

4:53 Adam Extra super gay. I mean, you really need to see him. Doesn't that bother you?

4:57 Don't you want to wash it off?

4:59 Drew No, the paint, the airbrush stuff, doesn't bother me. It's the only kind of make up that doesn't bug me.

5:05 Adam Ricky?

5:06 Drew Yeah.

5:07 Adam You're 20? What's up?

5:10 Caller Well, first of all, I want to say I listen to y'all show a pretty good bit, mainly to hear people's questions that I want to ask and they never get asked, so I had to finally break down the call.

5:21 All right.

5:23 Caller Well, like in the bedroom, I just got married last month and I prematurely ejaculate. We never had that one before.

5:34 Drew How long before you go?

5:36 Caller Well, I mean, this is the first time. I mean, it could be a matter of seconds, maybe five to ten.

5:42 Drew How about the second time?

5:44 Caller It takes about maybe five minutes.

5:48 Caller Holy Christ.

5:50 Drew Is your wife okay with all this?

5:52 Adam Yeah, I'm not sure she's expanding.

5:54 Caller She says she's fine with it, but I mean it's...

5:57 Adam Hold on. If she's fine with it, it just means she doesn't like you being on top of her.

6:00 Caller Yeah.

6:01 Adam That's what that means.

6:01 Drew I mean for some women, five minutes is all right.

6:04 Adam How do you... No, five minutes is the second time.

6:06 Drew Yeah, but I mean she may still be...

6:08 Adam It's funny too. He said sometimes five, sometimes ten. When you're counting the difference between five seconds and a ten-second ejaculation, that's bad times. Yeah.

6:20 Drew Wait, second time five minutes, though.

6:22 Adam Second time is five minutes, but the first time could be five or ten seconds.

6:25 Drew That's a factor of two.

6:27 Adam That's true. It's a hundred percent improvement on the ten-second one. What would half a minute be like a thousand percent or six hundred or something?

6:39 Drew So Ricky, you're just worried about this first go-around, but is your wife okay with this?

6:43 Caller Well she says she is, but I mean where now I don't...

6:47 Adam Do you give her oral sex?

6:49 Caller Yeah.

6:50 Adam And do you do a good job with that?

6:51 Drew Does she have an orgasm?

6:53 Caller Yeah, that's mainly how she does.

6:54 Adam Okay. And how about you taking care of yourself, you know, fifteen minutes before you become intimate with her?

7:01 Caller Yeah, I've tried that. I've tried several different methods. I mean some people have told me a couple different things. Like masturbate before.

7:10 How'd that work?

7:13 Caller Yeah, some guy told me one time, try putting ore gel on your head and it will kind of numb it up.

7:20 Adam Ore gel? Oh, on the head of your penis?

7:22 Drew That burned like hell. That burned everybody. Good.

7:25 Caller Yeah, that's.

7:25 Drew Yeah, good times. Put fire in the end of your penis. That'll impress your partner.

7:31 Adam Yeah, so how did the masturbation thing work?

7:34 Caller I mean it took me a little longer to get up, I guess.

7:39 Drew To get up?

7:40 Caller Yeah, but once we started, I mean, it was just...

7:44 Adam Back again.

7:45 Caller Yeah.

7:46 Adam I find this... I can't...

7:48 Drew And it's baffling for you.

7:49 Adam It's baffling for me. It really is. But I understand it's a legitimate problem. He's 20. He'll find a rhythm with his wife. And he's got the second time. And the first time isn't really like a first time because it takes eight seconds.

8:03 Drew Right. The second time he's doing okay, she's okay with it. But there is medication that the serotonin re-uptake inhibiting drugs like Prozac will delay things.

8:11 Adam Do you get on them full time or do you just take them that night?

8:14 Drew You know, I've never prescribed them for this. I believe it's full time.

8:17 Adam It seems like a lot to do some full time.

8:20 Drew I agree with you. I wouldn't be inclined. That's why I haven't prescribed them. I'm not inclined to do that.

8:23 Adam But what about something? Is there something you can take four hours earlier?

8:28 Drew Really, it's just about sustaining the erection and taking Viagra. That's the other thing they can do.

8:33 Adam But he's still going to have the orgasm with Viagra.

8:35 Drew Yeah, but he's still good to go.

8:37 Adam But what if he took the serotonin-reoptic inhibitor drug, took two of them three hours before it was time to have sex?

8:45 Drew I've never seen any descriptions of that kind of intervention.

8:48 Adam Okay. Let's talk to Jeff.

8:53 Jeff, what's up? I just wanted to speak to the whole junior college thing.

9:00 Drew Still from last night?

9:02 Oh, is that what was playing? It was from last night? Oh, okay.

9:07 Adam Oh, I see. You're hearing the show on a day delay.

9:10 Right.

9:11 Adam That's right.

9:12 Drew Go ahead.

9:13 First of all, I just wanted to say I respect you both. I respect your opinions.

9:17 Drew I didn't say anything about junior college, did I?

9:18 Adam Drew laughs at junior college, too, though. Admit it, Drew.

9:22 Drew No, I just said I'd fall out of the sword. I wasn't even talking about junior college. I was talking about California State College, wasn't I?

9:28 Adam No, you were talking about Northridge, Cal State, Northridge specifically. Go ahead.

9:33 Well, I just think that I had some problems with depression and such when I was in my first year of college. I had to stop for a while and now I'm just getting back on my feet and I'm at junior college. First of all, I think there are a lot of people who are there to learn and I think you're at a point where there are a lot of people who aren't really motivated and aren't really into it. It almost kind of struck me as cynical to a point.

10:03 Adam Well, look, I'll make an exception on my junior college views for people who went out of high school into real universities and then had some sort of trouble, emotional, family trouble, financial trouble and had to drop out and now need to get restarted. If that's your situation, fine. You people in high school who couldn't cut it in high school and couldn't go to a four-year university who think you're going to go to junior college for a couple of semesters and then transfer are all kidding yourselves.

10:35 Thank you, Jeff.

10:38 Adam Well, there's not much more to say than that.

10:40 There really isn't.

10:41 Adam Sean?

10:42 Hello?

10:43 Adam You're 27.

10:45 Caller Hey, Adam. How are you doing?

10:46 Adam Good. Here's all I'm saying, Drew. And just listen, seriously, if all of those people just went straight into the military, it'd be a much better life for them. By the time they were 22, instead of having a couple units of junior college under the belt, they'd have full medical, full dental, they'd have a GI Bill, they'd be trained in, you know, engineering or, you know, tank repair, tank repair, some important real-world skill like refueling C-17 Super Hercules or, you know, arming bombs or finding mines or something like that, stuff you can use every day. But still, nowadays, they'd be better off.

11:29 Caller First of all, don't join the military.

11:31 Adam Thank you. Go ahead there, Sean.

11:33 Caller Hey, guys. First of all, Adam, the huge fan of the Man Show.

11:37 Adam Oh, thank you.

11:38 Caller And Dr. Drew, I respect your opinion also. And that's the main reason I'm calling. Have you, Dr. Drew, have you heard of Narconon in California?

11:47 Drew Oh, yeah.

11:48 Caller Okay. Anyway, I went through the program. It took me four months to graduate. It cost me about $24,000. And, you know, I went through a sauna detox program and then I've been here in a classroom for 12 hours a day, six days a week. Supposed to learn how not to use drugs. But the thing about it is I haven't, you know, I'm back to pretty much using it again. Of course. I want to know what you thought about that program and without going through the 12 step, what do you think before I finish my statement or my question?

12:21 Drew Well, I only know what works. And if there were other things that would work, I would have you do it.

12:26 Adam What, Narcanon doesn't work?

12:28 Drew Narcanon, I've actually seen people stay sober for months when they're inactively involved within the confines of the program. Like, you stayed sober for 4 months while you were there. Right. But the problem is that...

12:40 Caller Most people stay there.

12:41 Drew I know, for a long time. And while they're there, they do okay. But when they come out, I've seen no sustained sobriety. And if I saw that they were having success, I would refer people there, but they don't.

12:52 Adam 24 grand, huh?

12:53 Drew And that's the other thing. For 24 grand, you could have a ton of treatment in a scientifically based intervention program.

13:01 Caller Well...

13:03 Adam What are you into?

13:04 Caller Well, painkillers. I played college football and I hooked on a surrogate set, loracet, fentanyl.

13:11 Adam Yeah.

13:13 Caller And it's really bad. I got to the point where I can't go through a day without taking them. And it interferes with my life, my work, and everything.

13:21 Drew The thing is that we know a lot about this disease, a ton now. And we also know about treatment. There's the National Institute of Health, National Institute of Mental Health, National Institute of Drug Abuse. There are leagues and leagues of very high caliber scientists involved in this disorder right now. And we know what works.

13:39 Caller Is the drug I was on that impossible to get off of, you know, the painkillers, the opiates?

13:43 Drew No.

13:45 Caller And do you know what they do when you're in the program?

13:48 Drew Do I know in terms of what?

13:49 Caller Yeah, as far as how they treat you to get off drugs. Well, make a long story short. Basically, you do 30 days in a sauna. What they say is you take nice and you go for 5 hours a day. You take a break. Like every 20 minutes, you sit in a sauna for 5 hours a day for 30 days.

14:09 Drew I actually have seen some rather serious medical consequences. What do you do?

14:11 Adam Just sweat out the oxycontin?

14:14 Caller Yeah, well supposedly you sit there and sweat all the toxins out of your body and you're physically detoxed.

14:20 Adam Yeah, that sounds retarded.

14:22 Drew Yeah, it's a brain issue. It's not your body. It's a brain problem.

14:26 Adam Yeah, listen, all of this detox BS, I mean I grew up with this crap with my hippie mom. We live in this toxic environment and you put toxins into your body and your body starts collecting and storing these toxins. Do you ever feel tired? Do you ever feel tired? Like let's say at the end of the day, you don't have the energy. A little depressed. You don't feel the energy and when the alarm goes off in the morning, you don't pop out of bed, you roll over and hit the snooze bar. Is that you? Is that you? No, it's me. Do you find yourself drinking coffee in order just to wake yourself up in the morning?

15:09 Caller It must be toxins.

15:11 Adam And what about the times you promise to work out? When I'm done with work today, I'm going to the gym. But you know what? At the end of the day, you're too tired and you go home.

15:21 Caller Am I right?

15:22 Adam And what do you eat? Are you eating fresh, organic, uncooked, whole vegetables like greens from beet stalks? Organically grown. No, no. Because you're taking, you don't have time and you're too tired. So what are you doing? You're putting in a microwave oven and you're taking a frozen dinner and you know what that is? That's toxins. And what happens with those toxins is they start to store up in your body. And the reason you feel tired is because you're carrying around all those toxins. Now what we need to do is we need to purge those toxins out of your body and you're going to feel like someone took an anvil out of your ass. When we're done blowing about 40 gallons of this Senka up your ass, oh yes, we use instant coffee up your ass.

16:09 Drew Only taste of choice sometimes.

16:11 Adam Sometimes. Do you like some cream up your ass too?

16:13 Drew Cremora.

16:14 Adam Cremora, you want some powdered cream up your ass? When we flush you out, we flush out the toxins. I see. You understand? And then we just put you on green tea and you eat bouillon cubes and drink hot water and after a few days of that you will feel new. You'll feel so cleansed. You understand? We're a very toxic environment. The air we breathe is toxic. The water we drink, the food we eat, the whores we rape, toxic.

16:43 Drew I'll tell you what's toxic. What's toxic is growing up in an environment where you have that kind of crap running down. That is toxic.

16:49 Adam Yeah. You know what I should have said to my mom? How come you smoke weed and can't get out of the room?

16:54 Caller Yeah.

16:55 Adam I mean, I got a job. How come you can't work?

17:00 Drew Well, she's got too many toxins.

17:02 Adam She's got too many toxins. She's way down with all those toxins.

17:06 Drew I want somebody to paint this, to draw the structure of a toxin for me.

17:11 Adam We got to sweat those toxins out of you.

17:13 Drew Draw the structure and then create the pathways for me whereby a toxin affects your battery. What are the biological pathways?

17:19 Adam That process food.

17:20 Drew Because it doesn't exist.

17:21 Adam That process breakfast cereal you're eating, Drew, you know what? You'd be better off eating the box it came in. It would be better for you.

17:29 Drew We've all basically eating dirt and the twigs. We can process pretty much anything.

17:35 Adam I know when I eat beef, I'm not right for a week. Not for a week. I can feel it in me.

17:41 I feel it.

17:43 Adam Here's the thing with me. I could eat 70 carats or I could just eat a giant bowl of molten cheese and I would not know the difference if you didn't tell me. I could mainline cheese whiz. I could put a syringe in my arm and you could just shake up cheese whiz and spray it right in the syringe and I wouldn't know it while I was eating mushrooms that had been rolled in lucky charm with Miracle Whip on them. Kathy?

18:14 Caller Hello?

18:14 Adam You're 19.

18:15 Caller Hi. How are you guys?

18:16 Adam Do you ever feel tired?

18:18 Caller Sometimes.

18:21 Adam Sometimes you're happy but other times you feel depressed?

18:24 Caller Sometimes.

18:24 Adam Yeah. Toxins. Toxins. Sometimes when the alarm goes on it's hard to get out of bed?

18:29 Caller All the time. Toxins.

18:30 More toxins.

18:32 Caller I have a question. I was working with this guy for about a year and a half and he was seeing someone and we were kind of into each other and we ended up sleeping together while they were dating and they recently broke up and he's always been telling me that there's never going to be anything between us in a relationship or anything like that.

18:51 Drew Why don't you believe him?

18:52 Adam Did he pull out by the way because semen can be very toxic?

18:57 Yeah.

18:57 Adam Okay. So he didn't put any toxins in you?

18:59 Caller We were protected. I'm not dumb.

19:02 Adam Condoms are toxic too.

19:03 Drew They're manufactured by the man.

19:05 Adam The man makes them and they're petroleum based. Go ahead, Kathy.

19:09 I'm sorry.

19:11 Caller Anyways, we were just recently together and she ended up calling. I'm curious, what's going to happen with this? I don't know what to do with this.

19:21 Adam She ended up calling where? When?

19:25 Caller His house.

19:25 Adam While you were there?

19:26 Caller Yeah.

19:27 Drew And you picked up the phone or something?

19:28 Caller No, I didn't.

19:29 Adam He did? How did you know it was her?

19:31 Caller Because he told me.

19:32 Drew Wait a minute. He's told you no relationship?

19:34 Caller Yeah.

19:36 Drew A long, long, long time ago. Well, wait a minute. Have you asked him about that again now?

19:41 Caller No, I won't ask him about it because I already know the answer to it.

19:44 Drew Alright, so then you're not having a relationship with him?

19:46 Adam What's the answer? No?

19:48 Caller Well, the answer is what do I do?

19:50 Adam Well, no, that's the question. The answer is no, right? I mean, you know the answer?

19:54 Caller Yeah, I know there's never going to be a relationship.

19:56 Adam How old is he?

19:57 Caller He's twenty something. I'd rather not say except when I want to know.

20:01 Adam I see. How do you know the answer is definitely no? How do you know that his feelings haven't changed?

20:07 Caller Well, because he just told me that recently.

20:09 Adam No.

20:10 Drew He said it a long time ago.

20:11 Caller Well, he did say a long time ago, but he says it again, you know.

20:16 Drew Oh, God.

20:17 Adam He renewed?

20:18 Drew Oh, Kathy. Kathy, listen, you're not going to have a relationship with this guy. Forget it. Whatever you're fretting about, it's meaningless. He's clear. You know.

20:26 Caller He's scared because all of his other girlfriends have pushed him away.

20:29 Drew Kathy, don't do that.

20:31 Adam I love him. If only you could break through.

20:34 Drew Oh, Kathy, don't do that to yourself.

20:36 Adam Why won't you let me in? Just let me in. I'll make it all better.

20:41 Drew Kathy.

20:41 Adam Now, you know why he's pushing you away?

20:43 Caller Why?

20:43 Adam Because he don't want you near him.

20:45 Caller No, that's not true.

20:45 Drew Kathy.

20:46 Adam He ain't interested.

20:47 Drew Not that way.

20:48 Adam I love it. God bless you women for being able to think that way.

20:52 Drew That is crazy thinking, Kathy.

20:54 Adam Dr. Drew, have you ever consciously thought, I'm really into this chick, but I'm too scared to let her into my life.

21:01 Drew No males ever thought that.

21:02 Adam No males.

21:02 Caller We can hang out and stuff.

21:04 Drew Kathy, listen to us. Kathy.

21:06 Adam He ain't into you.

21:07 Drew He'll have you as a friend. He'll have you as a sexual partner. He will not have you as a girlfriend.

21:13 Adam Now, maybe if he knocks you up or something.

21:15 Caller He'll be stuck.

21:17 Adam You can get him, you know, get a few bucks a month out of the guy. But that's as good as it's going to get. What's wrong with you? Why can't you listen to that? Where's the other guys in your life?

21:29 Caller I don't know.

21:30 Adam Why aren't they interested?

21:31 Caller They are, but I just don't want them.

21:34 Drew Why do you have to have a guy who's not available? What did your dad do?

21:37 Caller Nothing.

21:38 Drew That's the point.

21:40 Adam Is your dad, are you close to him?

21:44 Caller No, not really.

21:45 Adam Did he leave? Was he a truck driver or something?

21:47 Caller No, I don't live with him.

21:49 Drew Where did he move?

21:50 Caller He lives out in the suburbs somewhere.

21:53 Drew Somewhere?

21:54 Caller Well, I'd rather not say, but he lives...

21:56 Drew How long has he been away from you?

21:58 Caller Well, I see him. I grew up with him, but then I moved in with my mom and stuff.

22:04 Drew You lived with him when you were growing up?

22:06 Caller Yeah, when I was little.

22:07 Drew Not with your mom?

22:08 Caller No.

22:09 Drew What was up with your mom?

22:10 Caller They were divorced at a young age.

22:12 Drew Why weren't you living with your mom?

22:14 Caller Long story. I'd rather not go into it for now.

22:17 Drew In a sentence, why weren't you living with your mom?

22:19 Caller Because of the court settlement and all that stuff.

22:21 Drew What was the matter with your mom?

22:23 Caller Nothing. We have a great relationship.

22:25 Drew Why wouldn't the children go with the mom in the settlement? Why didn't they go with your mom?

22:31 Caller I couldn't tell you. I wish I knew.

22:33 Drew Okay, so something was very wrong with your mom.

22:35 Caller No, actually, it's not. There's nothing wrong with her. I live with her to death, you know.

22:40 Adam Yeah, something is a little fishy here, though, that you were taken away from your mom at such an early age to live with your dad. It never goes that way. You've never questioned that, Kathy?

22:50 Caller I did question that a lot of times when it was just like a thing between my dad would take her to court for things and he just wanted...

22:58 Drew What kind of things?

23:00 Caller Well, because he kind of threatened her saying that like... Because she left me and my brother with my dad to go work and they moved out. And so like my dad told her that he'd take her to court for leaving us, for abandoning us, which was never true because she always watched us when we were younger.

23:17 Adam Anyway, Kathy, this ain't the guy. Sorry. Don't... Look, just because he doesn't like you is not a reason to like him.

23:27 Caller So what am I supposed to do? Just freak...

23:29 Adam Just cut him off. That's it. Find a guy who likes you.

23:32 Drew Yeah, you're thinking... You're thinking you're sort of distorted, Kathy. You're defending everybody all the time, making excuses for people, in order to be stuck in a situation where you can never actually get connected with someone.

23:45 Adam Right.

23:45 Drew Mom was okay. She's this. I couldn't even follow her story. It was so convoluted. Well, Dad was going to take it and it was no reality.

23:52 Adam There must have been a lot of toxins in the family. That's why the family got divorced.

23:56 Drew Toxins in the water.

23:57 Adam All right. We've got to take a break, but Dr. Dave is on the phone. Dr. Dave?

24:03 Drew Yep, that's me.

24:04 Adam Dr. Dave is calling in and I already know he's legitimate, just from hearing his first three words.

24:10 Drew Sounds like Bruce.

24:12 Adam Yeah. What's that? Dr. Spaz.

24:14 I had anal sex and I passed out a couple of times.

24:16 Adam Whoa, whoa. Dr. Bruce, please. Dr. Dave is going to tell us about the dosage to prevent premature ejaculation as far as the serotonin reuptake inhibitors, right? Yeah, right. Right? Hold on, hold on. We're going to tease this one as they call it in radio, Dr. Dave. Gotcha. You know, it's like when you tell your patients to get in their underpants and then you go out and blow a butt and have a cup of coffee and play the back nine. Over at Riviera and you come back and they're still in their underpants. This is what this is. So just hang on a second. We'll take ourselves a little break and then we'll be back and we'll have an answer to a good question and if the answer is good, this could be a breakthrough because you could get some of this.

24:59 Drew You want to be able to take it as needed.

25:01 Adam Right.

25:02 Drew That's the question.

25:02 Adam Can you take it that way? By the way, just before we go to break, what we're talking about is, go ahead, Dr. Drew.

25:09 Drew Premature ejaculation and the serotonin reuptake in hitting drugs decrease libido like Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil. These drugs can suppress libido and delay ejaculation.

25:17 Adam But who wants to be on them full time just because the gun is going off once a week too early?

25:23 Drew So Adam asked the question, could I just take a big dose four hours before I'm ready to have sex? And I didn't know the answer to that.

25:28 Adam And Dr. Dave says he does and if it works that way, it's going to be a breakthrough after this. All right, everybody, happy Halloween, I'm Adam. That's my good buddy and partner, sometimes lover, Dr. Drew over there.

26:19 Caller Especially now, huh?

26:20 Drew Does it turn you on?

26:22 Adam That face paint? Yeah. Speaking of face paint, I had my buddy, my buddy, my buddy Ray called. And he told me today, this evening and told me, you know, listen, you're wrong about these C rings. Drew was right about the C ring. We're talking about the C ring, the penis ring, last night. So we now raise one of these kind of contrary guys. He likes to just tell you're wrong without really doing much research.

26:54 Drew He doesn't go out of his way though to tell you that.

26:56 Adam No, yes he does. Oh, absolutely. He always does with me. So we started getting into it, you know, and he was saying I put my balls through the C-ring and Drew was right and you were wrong. And I said well maybe there's two types. Maybe it's a type you put your balls through and a type to just go around your penis.

27:14 Drew Yeah.

27:14 Adam There's a big debate last night. I dug into Drew for him suggesting you put your balls through the C-ring.

27:20 Drew In front of Miss USA.

27:21 Adam In front of Miss USA. Embarrassing me.

27:23 Caller No, you're embarrassing me.

27:24 Adam Oh, that's right. They're humiliating you in front of your new blonde girlfriend. So, we went back and forth. So anyway, Ray tells me, no, this is the way it works. And he says, it does a better job of holding in the blood. And I say, that's retarded because there's a device, a medical device for guys who have difficulty keeping blood in their penis that's a pump with a snap ring that goes around the base of the penis. And as I pointed out to Ray, it does not snap around the balls in penis. It snaps around the penis. It's the most effective way to keep blood in the penis. That is the essence of the C-Ring. Well he continued to argue and then he had his girlfriend who said she was siding with him that the balls go through the loop too. So I said, you know what? I'm going to get on the internet and I'm going to get to the bottom of this.

28:16 Drew This is your first, it's sort of your, what do they call it?

28:19 Caller Your maiden voyage into the internet on behalf of the C-Ring.

28:25 Adam I sit on the internet and I only look at automotive stuff. That's all I look at. And as bizarre as this sounds, I've never looked at a porn website and I've never looked at...

28:36 Drew You wouldn't be here if you had.

28:37 Adam I've never been home trying to show my penis back on. I've never looked at a Loveline website. I've never punched my own name in. I've never looked at anything involved, show business or any pornography, only automobiles. That is it, 100%. So I get in there and I just type in search C-Ring. I wrote the whole thing like the rooster in Ring. All of a sudden, it's all the gay websites come up. It's like Jack Splooge Fast and Big Rob gives a facial cult roundup and all this stuff. I'm looking at this stuff and I'm going through it. This is all the possible sites I can go to. I'm just looking at all this stuff. Some of it involves the way these search things work. The word C-Ring was in there somewhere. But I'm going to have to watch 40 facials in order to get it. I know what's going to happen. I'm going to flick it on and I'm going to see some guy schlong in some guy's eye socket.

29:40 Caller Now get ready for a hot horny stud.

29:42 Adam That's it for me. I just look at it and I scroll down. What I'm trying to do now is I'm trying to scroll down and find some sort of almost architectural approach to the C-Ring, like a schematic with a doctor being interviewed or something. Not some guy named Turk who's wearing a studded truss that goes around his sack and penis and he's shaved and oiled because I know this sounds homophobic but I am absolutely repulsed by the sight of gay men going at it together. It cuts me to the core. I can't see it. It ruins me. I'd rather see like Mother Teresa with a dildo upper than see the gay. It would leave less a scar.

30:37 Caller What does that do for you?

30:40 Adam Because these guys are like creaming in each other's faces and stuff and it's just so repugnant.

30:45 Drew Why is a bad one a guy that does that to a woman? That's healthy.

30:48 Adam That's not natural. It's God's way. But this hurts me to watch and I can't watch.

30:58 Drew I understand I can relate to the cringe factor but the repulse factor, I don't know.

31:02 Adam You know what I'm talking about. You know it's wrong and it's just the most disgusting thing ever. But you know I'm one of these guys who switches around the channel and if I see a guy on the Discovery getting a knee replacement, I switch immediately and if I turn it on Fox and some guys wearing a shoe box with a bunch of centipedes in it on his head, I've got to change that immediately too.

31:26 Drew You're creepy.

31:28 Adam I don't like to see people eating light bulbs and stuff like that.

31:32 Drew People getting hit by a train.

31:33 Adam No. I don't like to see anything bad or harmful happening to anybody. It bothers me greatly. I look at being raped in the asses right up there with the knee replacement surgery or being hit by the train. I didn't get any answers because I was scared to go onto one of these websites. We still need some information on the C-Ring tonight.

31:59 Caller If we just do it with a for sale, C-Rings for sale, we'll get tons of stuff.

32:03 Adam For sale?

32:05 Caller We'll bypass the gay porn.

32:06 Adam I don't know.

32:08 Caller Go ahead.

32:08 Adam Go ahead and give it a try.

32:10 Caller I'm working here.

32:11 Adam See what you can see. That's right. Tara, get on the computer and do C-Rings for sale. Used. We're going to get a buy.

32:24 Drew Isn't there a kid's book about that? We pile them on his head. Yeah.

32:26 Adam It's called Yertle the Turtle.

32:27 Drew No, no. C-Rings for sale.

32:29 Caller Oh, shut up.

32:30 Adam Dr. Dave?

32:31 Caller Yep.

32:32 All right.

32:32 Adam So Dr. Dave has the answer on this Prozac and other drugs like this in order to help the premature E. Yeah.

32:41 There's not too many studies out there. There's probably like six or eight that I've seen and they're all relatively small, like 2200 people. But most of the better ones were using Zoloft actually. And they compared, it's all low dose. Basically they compared taking 50 milligrams, which is like starting dose daily for either two weeks and then only as you need, like four or five hours beforehand, they compared that to taking it continuously. And basically they were able to improve ejaculation from before penetration, which is basically zero seconds and about five seconds as a baseline up to about three to six minutes. And the results for taking it as needed, only four or five hours beforehand, or taking it continuously were about the same.

33:27 Drew So you could take it just as needed.

33:28 Right, you take it for two weeks and then just whenever you think you're going to have a...

33:34 Drew Was there a minimum frequency? In other words, if you were only having sex once a month, why bother with that two-week interval at the start?

33:39 Yeah, well they didn't actually... That wasn't part of the study. Okay. But... Wait a minute. They took it out to like six months. Okay. So if you take it for two weeks and then as you need for up to six months, it was fine. Pretty good. Okay. So yeah, it works.

33:51 Adam Okay, so let me just... I'm no doctor, so let me just make sure I got this straight. First off, we don't have an answer on just taking it. On just taking it without taking it... No, not every day. Just taking it before you had the sex.

34:06 Drew Yes, we do.

34:06 Adam Well, he keeps saying about the two weeks and then taking it.

34:08 Drew But that's just the way the study was designed.

34:10 Adam Well, but that doesn't help. I don't want to take it for two weeks. I only want to take it the day before, you know, at the time I had sex.

34:17 Drew The question I asked was, what if you did it for two weeks and then didn't have sex for another month and you took it a month later and it still worked? Obviously, all you're getting is that as-needed effect. So that the two week... And Zoloft does not have that long a half-life, Dave. It's kind of weird that it's not a study that way.

34:33 Adam Why? Listen, you know that if you're on the Zoloft permanently, it's going to help in this department, right? But the answer we want is, can you pop a few at eight that evening and use it at twelve that night?

34:46 Drew I don't want to put words in Dave's mouth, but basically he's saying that yes, you can because it looks good.

34:50 Adam Okay. Thanks, Dave.

34:52 Drew I don't understand why they worked it for two weeks, if they're comparing it to the other SSRIs. It was a study flaw.

34:57 Adam That doesn't help anybody.

34:58 Drew Just shut up. Listen, would they use 50 milligrams for the as needed Zoloft?

35:03 Yeah, exactly.

35:04 Drew Were there other SSRIs that they studied similar?

35:06 Yeah, some were done with Selecso and Prozac and they're all similar, but there were more studies and they seem to be better designed with more people on the Zoloft.

35:14 Adam Zoloft is the one that seems to, or at least they have the most data on. Thanks, Dr. David.

35:20 No worries.

35:20 Adam Take care of yourself. I don't understand why they would give it to you for two weeks if they are comparing it against other people that were on it permanently.

35:28 Drew It has something to do with the study design. Why they did it, I don't know. Why do the study?

35:33 Adam You are putting them on it.

35:35 Drew They studied it for six months after that. You don't need that two weeks necessarily.

35:39 Adam You do the two weeks and then you never do it again and for the next six months you can do it.

35:44 Drew Correct.

35:45 Caller Still the two weeks.

35:47 Drew Both Dave and I were saying, you know that two weeks, you probably don't need to do it but that's just the way the study was designed. Why the study was designed that way?

35:54 Adam Okay, so what if you took 100mg instead of 50mg?

35:59 Drew Not necessary.

36:01 Adam You don't think so?

36:03 Drew Again, based on the science it doesn't look like there's much more to be benefited from that.

36:07 Adam Well, they didn't try it. They just took the 50mg.

36:09 Drew Based on the science.

36:10 Adam What do you mean based on the science? There was no science. They didn't try it.

36:13 Drew That's right. So there's no science to support using more. Presumably because people aren't seeing those kinds of results they didn't need to study it. However, if someone were not getting a good result of 50mg, I'm sure their doctor would suggest they try 100mg.

36:25 Adam So here's the bottom line. If you got a problem with this premature E but you don't have a problem with depression, although you should be depressed if you come in 8 seconds, but let's say you're not depressed about that yet you still have this problem, you could probably go to your doctor and can prescribe Zoloft and keep it in the cabinet. If you have a big date that night, you pop 50 or 100 in and 3 or 4 hours later you're in good shape. Give me the pills, Skipper. At least in better shape, right?

36:54 Drew Yeah.

36:55 Adam And is it 4 hours or would you do it 2 hours?

36:58 Drew I think you said 4 hours.

36:59 Adam That was the study but how do these things work?

37:02 Drew 4 hours, yeah.

37:03 Adam You'd want to hit your peak and at least you get that sort of placebo effect.

37:08 Caller Alright, let's talk to David.

37:11 Adam Hey. Hey, you're 29. Right on. What's up?

37:15 Caller First off, the discussion you were just having about Zoloft, could that 2 weeks be that it usually takes a couple of weeks to kick in for depression?

37:22 Drew Yeah, but they're not using it for depression.

37:24 Caller That's why I want it different when you're talking about it.

37:27 Drew Yeah, and the point is that the...

37:31 Adam I just want to know if you could use it without needing it, only use it on your penis.

37:35 Drew And it looks like that you can.

37:36 Caller I'm just glad I ain't got to worry about it.

37:38 Adam Alright, so what's your question?

37:39 Caller Question is about THC, if you smoke it or if you eat it in a brownie, what's the difference in adverse effects?

37:46 Drew The problem with... The only issue with eating it is it's hard to sort of figure out the dosing because it's a real slow absorption so you can give yourself a pretty big dose that way and not really know it.

37:56 Adam I haven't had a good pot brownie in years but that's to say there's nothing better.

38:01 Drew And the smoking pot causes chronic bronchitis very commonly so you sort of skip that potential side effect.

38:07 Caller Right, that's why I'm asking. I guess if you eat a brownie you just skip all the lungs.

38:10 Drew Yeah, I know of no long term adverse effect from brownie other than the dosing issue.

38:18 Adam I got a third way. I will sometimes crush up a brownie and snort it.

38:22 Drew Nice.

38:23 Adam Yeah. I'll tell you, I've never been higher than a good pot brownie.

38:27 Drew Right on. You take a big dose with pot brownies.

38:29 Adam Yeah, it's great. I like these and you don't get burnt out. You know, you smoke weed, you get all burnt out. Eat that pot brownie and you're feeling good. For a long time. Yeah. I like these guys that really make a science out of it too, where they take it and they cook it up in the butter and it releases the THC and then they let the butter congeal, you know, and they pull out all the stems and leaves and buds and now they got this butter that's this THC butter and then they use the butter to cook the brownie. And because it's only the butter, it's not like you're eating stems and leaves or anything. It just tastes like a great brownie.

39:01 Drew Why don't they cook other stuff with the butter?

39:04 Adam I guess they could but it's like, hey, I'm high, might as well eat a brownie. I'm not going to put in Hollandaise sauce and dump it over asparagus.

39:12 Drew Eggs Benedict brownie.

39:14 Adam Yeah, but like, this is nice because you can cut it up and distribute it. Doing it in Eggs Benedict style.

39:19 Drew You're right.

39:20 Adam Okay. That was a hell of a thought though.

39:22 Caller Cookies.

39:23 Adam Oh yeah.

39:24 Drew Cake.

39:24 Adam Well, brownie is almost like a coverall term for... Yeah, some people make pot cookies or whatever.

39:31 Caller Same thing.

39:32 Drew All right.

39:32 Adam We'll take... We'll hand them out on Halloween. We'll take a little break. We'll be right back. Hey, Loveline. Happy Halloween, everybody. I'm Adam. That's Dr. C. Ring Drew over there.

40:25 Drew I thought the guy was going to do more of this kind of painting on my face here. This stuff? Make it sort of like the creature kind of thing.

40:31 Adam Drew got a bunch of stars and a solar system and clouds spray-painted on his forehead. What was it, airbrushed on there at a kid's party tonight? He looks extra gay.

40:44 Drew Yeah, way more gay than usual.

40:46 Adam Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what this guy was thinking. He's really gay. There's sparklies and stuff. He should have given you something like made you look like a devil or something. What's up Anderson?

40:56 Caller I just want to say I like it.

40:57 Adam Do you? Alright. Do you like to keep it on?

40:59 Drew He scares me.

41:00 Caller I'm playing all these things but I like it.

41:01 Adam Alright. Lacquer it up and keep it for a few days. Would you, Drew?

41:04 Caller I like the fact that he kept it on and came in here.

41:08 Adam I did too. I'm just hoping you get pulled over on the way home.

41:11 Drew I was thinking about that.

41:13 Adam We were during the break looking up the C-Rings on the Internet and the balls went through most of them. Although we were looking at the C, to defend my penis only C-Ring premise, I'm old school.

41:29 Drew Yeah. In all things.

41:30 Adam The C-Ring has probably been around a thousand years. I'm guessing. Think about it for a second. Knowing that. And you know, whenever, I'd say about a week after bronze was invented.

41:43 Drew Bronze age, that's probably how they came to the bronze age. That's probably how they broke into it.

41:46 Adam We need a better C-Ring. This wood one is not working. So to me the C-Ring is just an actual like copper bronze ring the size of a silver dollar that you put your penis through when you get your boner and it keeps the blood in there. But there's all these new ones that are Velcro and rubber and they got a harness for your nuts and we saw a nice one that had a nice tail that went up your Tokai which is delightful and it's amazing that this is a $10 billion a year industry. I have no idea who is buying this junk. I mean look I'm just as sick a guy as the next guy but I just have no attraction.

42:25 Drew We had trouble looking at it.

42:27 Adam No I kind of enjoyed looking at it.

42:29 Drew Yes I thought so you cringed.

42:30 Adam It's a little weird because it's all dudes. Anyway my guess when you look up C rings with the word C right in there you got to expect to see some C right? Right. Tanya?

42:42 Yes.

42:42 Adam You're 17?

42:43 Caller Hey how's it going?

42:44 Adam Good what's up?

42:45 Caller Oh well I have two questions if you don't mind. My first question is lately I've been in the past year so I saw myself kind of like physically attracted to older guys. I don't know why I like.

43:01 Drew What's your other question?

43:03 Caller My other question is I want to know why I eat so much. My mom says it's because I get bored.

43:10 Drew Well usually if you're not eating because you're hungry and that's not your biological set point, people will eat for emotional reasons as a way of managing feelings. Stuffing or feeling or putting down feelings, trying to feel better if you're feeling depressed.

43:25 Adam Yeah, but your mom's probably right. If you're sitting around and you don't have anything to do and there's a full fridge, you'll bully.

43:31 Drew But boredom is another one of the more common manifestations. The boredom is depression.

43:37 Adam Yeah, well that's just because there's too many toxins in that food you're eating. It's filling up inside your colon. I've got to blow some coffee through there in order to clean you out. Well, how much do you weigh?

43:46 Caller 115.

43:48 Adam Well, that doesn't sound, what are you, three feet tall?

43:51 Caller I'm like 5'6, 5'5.

43:53 Drew You're perfect.

43:55 Adam You're fat. That's lanky. 5'5, 5'6, and 115?

44:00 Caller Yeah.

44:01 Drew You're small.

44:01 Adam So what's your problem?

44:03 Caller I don't know. For example, yesterday, I came home from practice and I went to In-N-Out with a bunch of friends and I ate a double-double and then I came home 10 minutes later and I had to eat again.

44:12 Adam What practice?

44:14 Caller For band.

44:15 Adam What are you playing?

44:16 Caller Percussion.

44:17 Adam Yeah. 115 is no tuba size. And you do those, what do you do? Do you do those three drums?

44:25 Caller No, I do them in high school.

44:26 Drew The glockenspiel?

44:28 Adam Yeah. What do you play?

44:29 Caller Bass.

44:30 Drew A bass drum at 115 pounds?

44:31 Caller Yeah.

44:32 Adam Do you carry it around like at half time?

44:34 Caller Yeah.

44:34 Drew Oh my God.

44:35 Caller There are five different sizes so I play the first one.

44:38 Caller Okay.

44:39 Drew All right.

44:39 Adam So listen there, Tanya, the eating is a big deal. You're 115 pounds. Same amount of relax.

44:47 Drew Yeah. It's good for you.

44:48 Adam Yeah. And the older dudes, how old a dude are you interested in?

44:55 Caller Kind of like, not like way older, but more or less like, I would say the highest is like 30 or something.

45:04 Adam 30?

45:04 Drew Yeah. Do you actually act on this?

45:07 Caller No, I don't act on it. I've never had sex. I don't want to act on it.

45:10 Adam Okay. Where's your dad?

45:13 Caller Right now, he's living with my grandma.

45:15 Drew So you're apart from him.

45:16 Adam Oh, he's living with his grandma?

45:18 Drew His mom.

45:18 Adam That's his mom. He's living at home.

45:20 Caller Yeah. Kind of pathetic.

45:22 Adam Yeah. Yeah. That's big time loser.

45:24 Caller Yeah.

45:25 Drew So naturally enough, you'd sort of be looking for a figure to replace the one that failed you.

45:30 Adam Yeah.

45:30 Caller All right.

45:31 Adam Good. You know what's going on. Don't worry about it. I like this tiny. She likes older men, but she never has sex with anybody. And she eats too much, but she's 115 pounds.

45:42 Drew It's sort of the perfect situation.

45:44 Adam It's the kind of problems we should all have. Yeah.

45:46 Drew You can figure out how to keep everyone contained in that mode, in that corridor.

45:50 Adam Right.

45:51 Drew Because eventually she'll be 35, attracted to a 35 year old.

45:54 Adam That's right. And 135 pounds. Let's talk to John. John is 17. Should he hit on a guy in band?

46:05 Caller Yeah.

46:06 Adam You're gay, right?

46:07 Caller Yes. I've had a crush for two months now.

46:11 Adam Is this guy gay too?

46:12 Caller Six years ago I started playing flute. And that was just a start. It wasn't even intentional or anything. It was just I weighed like 90 pounds, only instrument I could carry. Wow. Kind of thing.

46:27 Adam Can you hide behind the flute sometimes if like a shooting broke out?

46:31 Caller Pretty much, yeah. I'm short, skinny, not there.

46:36 Drew You're small. All right, John. Is this guy you have a crush on gay?

46:42 Caller I don't know.

46:42 Adam Well, let's try to figure out what instrument does he play.

46:46 Caller He plays oboe.

46:49 Adam Oh, they had to change the name of that to gay bow. Hobo. Wait a minute.

46:56 Drew Let's go to break and come back to John.

46:58 Adam No, no.

46:58 Drew You can think of another.

46:59 Adam Look, he plays the oboe. He may be, he's at least bi.

47:02 Drew What is, do you have any sense of whether or not he's gay?

47:05 Caller Well, he's really effeminate, so. Well, mm-hmm.

47:10 Adam All right, hold on. We got to take, John, we got to take a break.

47:12 Caller Okay.

47:13 Adam Drew, we got to take a break.

47:14 Drew Adam, let's take a break.

47:15 Adam John, you got to sit tight, would you, brother?

47:18 Caller Okay. All right.

47:19 Adam You just hang loose for a couple of minutes.

47:21 Caller Okay.

47:22 Adam Because we're going to get right back to you and your question after this.

47:27 Caller All right, guys, here's the deal.

47:39 You know what I'm saying now, Dan?

48:22 Adam Hey, Loveline, everybody.

48:25 Caller I'm Adam.

48:26 Adam He's Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Happy Halloween. I haven't heard any reports of anything bad happening. I mean, Halloween is about over, especially on the East Coast, right?

48:41 Caller Yeah, who knows?

48:42 Adam All right. I mean, I guess reports will come out tomorrow, but I'm guessing if something horrible happened on the Eastern time zone that we would have heard about it out here.

48:52 Drew I think we've freaked ourselves out about Halloween.

48:54 Caller We really do.

48:55 Caller Yeah.

48:57 Adam I like the people that call in to the radio station that say, look, this is a pagan ritual that's based on worshiping the devil and that needs to be done away with anyway. Those are my kind of thinkers. Those are the kind of folks I want to go camping with. This is a salute to the devil. Yeah, you got a three-year-old dressed as Tigger, who is eating candy corn. Do you really think that's an homage to Beelzebub? Really? John? Hey.

49:32 Drew We're back with John.

49:33 Adam John is 17. John plays in the marching band.

49:37 Caller He's gay.

49:38 Drew You've not come out yet at your school, is that right?

49:40 Caller Anywhere.

49:41 Caller He plays the flute.

49:43 Caller I didn't even know until like two months ago.

49:45 Drew You didn't know you were gay until two months ago?

49:47 Caller I didn't even know. There's one guy I heard rumors that he thought I was cute and then that's when it got into my mind.

49:54 Adam Well, who did you hear rumors from?

49:58 Caller This guy Mark's friend.

50:01 Caller Mark's friend.

50:02 Caller He marks the guy who thinks I'm cute so I was like, oh that's nice.

50:06 Drew Why don't you go out with him?

50:07 Adam Is he the guy who plays the oboe?

50:09 Caller No, he's some other guy.

50:10 Drew You're not into this guy?

50:12 Caller Yeah, he smokes. I'm not into smokers.

50:15 Adam Do you smoke weed or cigarettes?

50:17 Caller Cigarettes.

50:19 Adam Yeah, you don't need that on your penis. You'll get cancer. That's secondhand smoke going right up the urethra. You want to know whether to ask the guy who plays the oboe out.

50:32 Drew It's like smoking, really, wouldn't it?

50:35 Caller Yeah, and I wanted to ask you, how would you know, like if someone, like, yeah, I don't know.

50:41 Adam How do I know if someone's gay? Yeah, like how can you tell? I have to go to the room and examine the drawers.

50:47 Drew I think, John, there's a certain amount of risk for you in sort of just coming on to this guy, in that you haven't really come out yet. You haven't developed a supportive network of friends who are gay. It can help you if there's some sort of reaction. You know, people can be cruel. And if you're not sort of prepared to come out of the closet, if you're not totally comfortable, if you don't have a lot of support, have you told your family? Have you told your family? You know, I just think, maybe these guys have been sort of approaching you already, maybe sort of developed some relationships with them. Not necessarily dating them, but just, you know.

51:21 Adam Here's what you need to do. You can't, you know, take your penis out, put your pants around your ankles and bum rush this guy with a greased flute. That, that's not the angle. If he's gay and he gets that vibe from you and he has an interest in you, he'll come back. Yeah. No, no. You go up and you, you talk to him. What's happening? You start talking about the football game this Friday night. Then after the football game, you say to him, what are you doing? You going over it? You're going to hang out or you're going to the dance or I hear there's a party. You going to that? And if he's into you, he'll be like, yeah, I'm going to go over to that party.

51:56 Drew Wait a minute, that's how you talk to your friends.

51:59 Adam Right, but the point is he probably has the vibe that John's got a little something going on and if he has nothing going on, he'll shut down immediately like, no, I got to go right home and read the Bible. You see what I'm saying? I don't think you'd do it any different than a girl. You don't ask the guy out before you find out whether he's gay or not, just talk to him a little bit. You're in the same band. What's going on after the football game? We're going out. We're going to this party. You want to go? What are you doing? And you just do it. And if he says no, he ain't interested. And if he says yes, it doesn't necessarily mean he's interested either, but you go to the party and you talk a little more. You're plying with a couple of wine coolers and before you know it, you're at Second Base.

52:47 Drew Oh, what is Second Base?

52:48 Adam You get out the C-Ring.

52:51 Drew What would Second Base be there?

52:52 Adam For gays? They got a different diamond.

52:54 Drew Yeah.

52:55 Adam Gays actually don't have a diamond. It's not First Base, Second Base. They use a soccer field. Oh, that's a goal.

53:03 Go, go, go, go.

53:04 Adam Yeah, goal.

53:05 Goal.

53:07 Caller Goal.

53:09 Adam That's what happens when they engage in the anal.

53:12 Drew The hand.

53:13 Adam The hand. What name is this, Drew?

53:16 Drew Nomi.

53:17 Yeah.

53:18 Adam You're 23.

53:19 Caller I am.

53:20 Adam What's up?

53:21 Caller Okay. Well, the reason I'm calling is because, first I want to preface it by saying I really am an intelligent woman, and yada, yada, yada, all that stuff. But I have a really good paying job, and I'm really happy in my place in life right now. But back in January, I decided to do a little porn. I just thought it would be kind of exhilarating, and so I did. I've done quite a few things since then.

53:49 Adam Quite a few movies?

53:50 Caller Yeah.

53:51 Adam I see. What was the job that you had that was well-paying?

53:55 Caller I'm a web designer.

53:57 Caller Okay.

53:59 Adam What kind of websites?

54:01 Caller I'm into a marketing firm.

54:02 Adam Okay. So you had a nice career going.

54:05 Caller Oh, yeah. Absolutely. But I'm very open sexually and I'll be the first to admit, I'm just chock-full of issues. But being that I am intelligent, I'm able to address them.

54:16 Adam Right.

54:17 Drew No me.

54:17 Adam Well, you're not addressing them. You're acting out on them.

54:19 Drew Right. Put that aside right away because dealing with those sorts of emotional issues have very little to do with intellect. That's an emotional process and that requires an emotional.

54:27 Adam It helps if you got a high IQ. So you don't have a boyfriend? No, I don't. So you're a single, heterosexual girl? Okay.

54:36 Drew To intellect does just gives you a way of intellectualizing why you do the things you do.

54:41 Adam Okay, hold on.

54:42 Drew Yeah, that's not right. That's defense.

54:44 Adam True.

54:44 Drew That's a way of just trying to make it okay for you to do the things that you disturb things you're doing because of the emotional problems.

54:49 Caller Yes, but I'm able to rationalize everything in life.

54:51 Drew Yeah, but that's an unhealthy thing. Rationalization is considered a very unhealthy thing.

54:57 Adam It's getting a little cathartic for you, brother.

54:59 Caller Okay, but the reason I'm calling is because...

55:01 Adam Yeah, well, wait a minute. I got some questions. So you're just working as a web designer and you're single and you're doing fine. You got your own place and everything. You decide you want to check into this porn world and see what this is about.

55:16 Caller Right.

55:16 Adam Now, how do you get started? Do you know some people that are doing it?

55:19 Caller I had known some people that... Well, this guy that I knew, he was a manager of a strip club in Hollywood. He knew some people who knew some people. It wasn't like I was just going to random interviews or whatever.

55:32 Adam Right.

55:33 Caller I had kind of been referred to.

55:36 Adam Can you turn down whatever is going on in the background there, please?

55:39 Caller I apologize.

55:40 Caller All right.

55:41 Adam So, you talk to this guy and he says, yeah, I got some guy you can talk to.

55:45 Caller Right.

55:46 Adam He sets you up and you decide. Now, how much money is there first time around?

55:51 Caller It's pretty good money. See, that's the thing, the first thing I had to do was just like an oral scene, you know?

55:57 Adam Hold on a second. How much money?

56:01 Caller Well, see, I've done so many different things. First time.

56:04 Adam That's why I said how much money for the first time.

56:08 Caller I got a grand.

56:09 Adam I got a thousand dollars. And it's just an oral scene. You just got to give a guy BJ?

56:15 Caller Exactly.

56:16 Adam And that's the extent of the, and you're just a scene in a movie?

56:20 Caller Well, it was for an Internet site, yeah.

56:22 Adam Okay. So you give the guy a BJ and you get a thousand bucks?

56:26 Caller Correct.

56:28 Adam And you just met the guy?

56:30 Caller Yes.

56:30 Adam And now have you been with a lot of people? I mean, how has your sex life been up until this point?

56:37 Caller I've been with quite a few people for my age.

56:39 Adam Okay. And you meet this guy, you give him a BJ, it's exciting?

56:45 Caller Yeah, it was.

56:46 Adam You enjoy it.

56:46 Caller Really, right.

56:47 Adam You get your money.

56:48 Caller Exactly.

56:49 Adam And you get out of there. Then how long until you do your next one?

56:53 Caller Well, the second scene that I did was for the same guy, but it was like a girl scene, and that was like two weeks later.

57:01 Adam Yeah, but you're not a lesbian.

57:03 Drew No.

57:04 Adam And you're not bi.

57:06 Caller It's debatable.

57:07 Drew She's an actress.

57:08 Adam Right, I see. Your method. So you do this, and how do you enjoy that?

57:14 Caller Yeah, I did.

57:15 Adam What do you like better, the chick or the BJ?

57:20 Caller They're both kind of comparable.

57:21 Adam Okay, how much do you get for the chick?

57:23 Caller I got $1400.

57:24 Adam Oh, there's a step up.

57:27 Caller Yeah.

57:27 Adam Okay, and now what? Then you move on, and how many did you do?

57:31 Caller Well, then I did a couple of solo scenes, which I was trying to get as much as I could out of the opportunities I had, opportunities used loosely, you know.

57:42 Adam Did you do some masturbation scenes?

57:44 Caller Right, yeah. Because I kind of set boundaries for myself that I didn't want to have actual full on penetration.

57:52 Drew You got to set your boundaries, set your standards, Adam.

57:56 Adam You have fairly delicate sensibilities, I understand.

57:59 Drew You put your as a dual penetration.

58:01 Adam You do that, yeah.

58:04 Caller But then I took a hiatus for about six months, and then like in August, I…

58:08 Drew The season started again.

58:10 Caller Exactly. Yeah. I don't know what it is. I'm in like the depths of like doing like different things. You know, like I have an agent who can like send me out on like a bunch of different things if I have like the urge to, you know.

58:23 Adam Right, so now have you done the penetration stuff yet?

58:25 Caller Yeah.

58:26 Adam And how was that?

58:27 Caller That was weird. I think that's been kind of like the downhill kind of… I think that was like the first time like my like emotional emotions kind of got in the way of things.

58:38 Adam Yeah, what happened?

58:40 Caller Well, I've just like been questioning everything. I'm like, you know, like I'm like, God, I'm like, if this is how I feel now, you know, just a little, you know, I just don't feel right.

58:49 Adam I have no desire for something. Now what about the fact that you work as a web designer? You work around all these guys who do computers for a living. You're doing this stuff on the Internet.

58:59 Drew Aren't you afraid they're going to come across you?

59:01 Caller Yeah.

59:03 Adam And have they?

59:04 Caller No, no one has yet that I haven't told.

59:07 Adam Oh, I'll tell you, are you good looking?

59:09 Caller Yeah.

59:10 Adam I'll tell you, if I worked around some good looking young 23-year-old chick and then came across her giving some guy a BJI, I would just beat myself into a pulp right there at my desk.

59:21 Caller I know. It's really amazing how many people I've seen. I seem to be like, because the like.

59:28 Adam What's going on there? Your phone?

59:30 Caller Yeah.

59:30 Adam You got a better phone to get on?

59:32 Caller Yeah.

59:32 Adam Okay. Yeah, do that.

59:34 Drew I want to hear what she's going to say. It's really amazing. What? What is she going to say?

59:38 Adam I don't know.

59:39 Drew Don't interrupt us.

59:40 Adam What about her folks? Oh, payback time for daddy.

59:43 Drew Oh yeah. Yeah.

59:45 Adam Find out what he did. Oh no. Hello? Oh, she hung up. Well, we got a little glimpse. That's enough for me. I can get one off to this. Maybe on the ride home. I haven't had myself in the car in a long time.

1:00:03 Drew That's because I'm talking to you. Don't you dare? How dare you? Oh yeah.

1:00:06 Adam Drew and I talk on the cell phone. That's right. Well, ever since I got a nice ride too, I don't like to beat off in it.

1:00:13 Drew It sprays around.

1:00:13 Adam This is back when I used to drive delivery wagons and stuff. Pick up trucks with vinyl bench seats.

1:00:20 Drew Good times.

1:00:21 Adam Hose those right out. Is this Dave?

1:00:25 Yes, it is.

1:00:26 Adam You're 35. What's up?

1:00:28 Caller Limo Dave.

1:00:28 Adam How are you? Nice to meet you.

1:00:30 I've been listening to you guys for a long time.

1:00:32 Adam Thank you.

1:00:32 Caller Where are you?

1:00:34 Caller I'm on the road.

1:00:34 Caller Where?

1:00:35 Caller I came in from Phoenix and I just got into LA.

1:00:39 Adam You drove a limo?

1:00:40 Caller I do.

1:00:41 Caller I drive a limo.

1:00:41 Adam Did you drive from Phoenix?

1:00:43 Caller I drove in from Phoenix today.

1:00:45 Adam Did you have a passenger?

1:00:46 Caller Well, actually, I drove the passenger out there. He put me out for two days and I just drove him back to Newport and dropped him off.

1:00:51 Caller Wow.

1:00:52 Adam Do a lot of people do that?

1:00:55 Drew Well, now, they're afraid to fly, huh?

1:00:57 Caller I think he was chicken to fly.

1:00:58 Drew Yeah, no, a lot of people are afraid to fly.

1:01:00 Caller He's going back next week and he paid top dollars.

1:01:02 Adam I hire a car and I take him to Arizona. How much does it cost to get from LA to Phoenix in a limo?

1:01:08 Caller I charge him $920 round trip and then $300 for the extra day.

1:01:12 Drew Oh, my God. $1200 bucks. You could get $65 on Southwest.

1:01:16 Caller You didn't want to deal with it, I guess.

1:01:20 Adam So what's up there, limo, Dave?

1:01:22 Caller Oh, you know what? I've been hearing you guys giving these advice to guys about the premature ejaculation.

1:01:28 Drew Right.

1:01:28 Caller And, you know, I'm against them taking any medications or anything like that. I don't think that's a problem. And, you know, I got a family secret that's been passed down to the menfolk in my Italian family.

1:01:41 Drew Oh, a way to deal with the premature?

1:01:43 Caller Yeah, exactly.

1:01:43 Drew All right, can't wait. Exactly. The sank up your ass. Is that it? Are we back to that again? No, no.

1:01:51 Adam Hold on one second. Let me just make this prediction. Whatever his advice is, it will be of zero help to anybody with this problem.

1:01:58 Drew Well, let's hear it. Let's check it out.

1:02:00 Adam Okay. I pray it is. And I'm tantalized by it. But knowing our callers, I've never had anyone say anything that made me go, Huh! Never thought of that. All right. Go ahead, Limo Dave.

1:02:14 Caller Get ready. Here it is. And Adam, I love listening to you crack me up. But you guys never give this advice.

1:02:20 Caller All right. Let's hear it.

1:02:21 Caller I want you guys to have it.

1:02:22 Adam All right.

1:02:22 Caller Real quick, let me set it up. You go to the gym. Even if you're not buff, after you get out of the gym, you feel stronger.

1:02:27 Caller You walk a little taller.

1:02:28 Caller You got more confidence, right? Right.

1:02:30 You're a little pumped up.

1:02:31 Caller Right.

1:02:32 Caller It's because you're muscle. There's a muscle down there and you got to work on it.

1:02:35 Okay.

1:02:36 Caller When you use the bathroom, when you take a leak, you stop, you start, you stop, you start and you break up the pee and you're strengthening the muscle down there.

1:02:44 Drew We've talked about this a lot. It's called the Cagle exercise and it really doesn't work for men. Why not? A couple of guys, occasionally guys will claim they get control with that. I've talked to guys who swear they've gotten spectacular control, but it's actually kind of rare for guys to get control of that.

1:03:00 Caller But it couldn't hurt. Yeah, it helps.

1:03:03 Drew It's a good, listen, just from a health standpoint, the physical therapy of that region is good for you.

1:03:12 Caller It is.

1:03:12 Drew Yeah, it's good. As you get older, the pee control and the poop control become issues.

1:03:17 Caller It's a matter of developing a confidence level, too. You feel stronger and you feel like you're doing something to help the situation. You're going to feel it and it's going to happen for you.

1:03:26 Drew You're supposed to do it at least three or four times a day, ten contractions. You hold it to the count of ten and then ten quick flicks.

1:03:32 Adam I'm going to go along with Dave on this, although it is something we had talked about. I thought it was going to be like, you know, wear a necklace of garlic around your balls or something. But I'm going to give Dave half a point on this one because it's something we've talked about before, but not in a while. And we've just talked about it in terms of prolonging ejaculation or making ejaculation better, but we've never really talked about it in terms of fixing guys who have premature problems. Or maybe we have, but we haven't touched on it in a while. So here's Dave's point, and I agree with this, which is, most guys feel like they have zero control over their penis. That it's just this sort of random device that hangs between their legs that has a mind of its own. But by breaking up your urine and by taking control of it, at least mentally, you think I'm the master of my penis. It's like a dog that is trained now, you understand?

1:04:33 Drew I'm just intrigued by the passing it down piece of this. I'm just trying to imagine myself having this discussion with my sons. When would that actually go down? How would that be done?

1:04:43 Adam The point is, this is a good plan and how do you do it, Drew? You stop it when you urinate like three times. You cut it all off.

1:04:55 Drew That's so you figure out which muscle it is you need to be contracting. You do that and you hold it for a count of ten.

1:05:02 Adam Then you feel like you've mastered your penis.

1:05:04 Drew You can do it when you're driving.

1:05:06 Adam Well, how do you do it when you're driving? Start peeing on yourself?

1:05:10 Drew The interruption of the flow of urine is just to give you the feel. Now you can start doing it wherever you want.

1:05:15 Adam Let's start with that, the interruption. It's not fair to use your hand. That's what I do. I squeeze it. I bend it off.

1:05:21 Drew You bend it off and then you fire it out.

1:05:23 Caller That's right.

1:05:25 Adam That's the way I deal with foes.

1:05:26 Drew It's brewing, man.

1:05:28 Adam Thank you. The point is, I agree with Dave. Thanks for the advice. Everyone pee and try to stop it three times within the stream.

1:05:36 Drew I go pee.

1:05:37 Caller There you go.

1:05:39 Adam Nomi?

1:05:39 Caller Yes?

1:05:40 Caller She's back.

1:05:40 Adam What's happening?

1:05:41 Drew You were starting to say, it's a really amazing that.

1:05:45 Caller Well, I don't recall that. I remember I think I left off on the fact that I really have no desire for like sex outside of, after I like kind of went outside my boundaries and you know did like the penetration and whatnot like, it's just like really like through my mind.

1:06:04 Adam Yeah, Nomi called, we were speaking to her ten minutes ago and she was, she's a successful internet website designer and she just got into porn to kind of experiment and had a little thrill to her life.

1:06:16 Drew You're kind of going down the path of addiction here.

1:06:20 Caller Oh, I know. I'm so well aware of it.

1:06:22 Drew Yeah, and what I want to do is give you the name of a doctor you should call because this is a pretty slippery slope you're going down.

1:06:29 Caller I know, I know it is.

1:06:30 Drew And if you really are ready to do something about it, I know someone that can really help.

1:06:35 Adam What kind of addiction are you talking about?

1:06:36 Drew Sexual addiction. I don't know if she's an addict. Are you an addict?

1:06:39 Caller Oh, I have such an addictive personality.

1:06:41 Drew Yeah, I mean this is what this is. Alright, baby.

1:06:43 Adam What about your parents? Do you hate them?

1:06:45 Caller No, I love my parents.

1:06:46 Adam Yeah.

1:06:47 Caller Yeah, and they're not on the West Coast, so it's really easy to do this and not even have to think about it, you know?

1:06:56 Drew What was that again?

1:06:57 Adam I don't know.

1:06:59 Drew Your parents don't live on this coast?

1:07:00 Caller Right, I have no family.

1:07:02 Drew And the Internet doesn't pass the Rockies.

1:07:05 Adam No.

1:07:05 Drew You can't penetrate them.

1:07:06 Adam I heard about it.

1:07:07 Caller My parents are going to be searching on the Internet for young, teen porn, you know?

1:07:13 All right.

1:07:15 Adam So, Drew, give her the name of the person you should talk to.

1:07:17 Drew I'll give you the name, okay?

1:07:18 Caller Okay.

1:07:18 Drew All right.

1:07:19 Adam Drew, what are you doing? You never do that.

1:07:22 Drew She sounds like she's ready. I've got the number and my beeper happens to be, and she lives near where this guy works, and it's a good referral.

1:07:28 Caller All right.

1:07:29 Adam What's this guy do?

1:07:30 Drew He runs an addiction recovery program.

1:07:32 Caller Porn director?

1:07:33 Adam No. Does he do sex addiction?

1:07:35 Drew Yes, he does.

1:07:39 Adam All right. Let's talk to Christina. Christina? Hello? Hey, you're 22.

1:07:45 Caller What's up?

1:07:47 Caller I'm calling because my boyfriend, whenever we fight, he's like, I'm going to leave you. Why did he do that?

1:07:58 Caller We've been together almost six years.

1:08:00 Drew Because that's probably what he feels like when he's fighting. He wants to get out.

1:08:05 Caller But why did he do that?

1:08:06 Caller I mean, that's my friend Sarah.

1:08:08 Drew Why does he feel that way?

1:08:09 Caller We were talking about that. Her boyfriend does it too. We can fight over something so little and trivial, and it's like, I'm going to leave you.

1:08:17 Drew Why does that shock you that an unpleasant encounter would cause you to say, gee, maybe this relationship isn't working out. I'm going to leave.

1:08:23 Caller It just seems so fast. Like, you know?

1:08:26 Drew Well, you know what, Christina? I kind of agree with you. What it means to me is that he's ruminating about this at other times.

1:08:34 Adam Yeah.

1:08:35 Drew And he's sort of thinking that maybe this is sort of wrapping up. In the six years you started when you were 16, that's the way these relationships were supposed to go. And he may be sort of looking for, not really wanting to leave, but moving in that direction when things are not going well.

1:08:50 Adam You guys should break up.

1:08:51 Caller You think so?

1:08:52 Adam Yeah, you've been together since age 16.

1:08:55 Caller And we've been living together since we were about 17.

1:08:57 Adam Yeah, and you guys fight all the time now.

1:09:00 Caller We don't fight all the time, but when we do, it's bad and it ends with like, I'm going to leave you, I hate you.

1:09:07 Caller And we end up making up.

1:09:08 Drew Well, what does bad mean? What does bad mean? Does he hit you?

1:09:12 Caller No, he doesn't hit me.

1:09:13 Drew You hit him?

1:09:14 Caller No. Well, I have.

1:09:17 Drew All right.

1:09:17 Caller So this is not in situations, but it's never been.

1:09:20 Drew This sounds like a dream. All right. Well, it sounds kind of extreme. It sounds like it's really sort of a sick situation possibly.

1:09:26 Caller Really?

1:09:27 Drew You're hitting each other?

1:09:28 You're in construction.

1:09:30 Adam Yeah. Loser.

1:09:32 Caller Thank you, Adam.

1:09:33 Adam Yeah. You could do better and so could he. Thank you. That's really great.

1:09:39 Caller I'm glad he did that.

1:09:40 Adam Listen, people should not be with the same people they were with in the 10th grade when they're 22 years old. They just shouldn't. Or you get married. Why aren't you guys married yet?

1:09:53 Caller I don't know.

1:09:54 Adam You fight too much?

1:09:55 Caller We don't fight that much, but when we do it's bad.

1:09:58 Adam All right.

1:09:59 Drew How often do you fight?

1:10:01 Caller How often do you fight?

1:10:04 Caller Probably about every two weeks.

1:10:07 Adam What about marriage? Has that been spoken of?

1:10:09 Drew That is very often, by the way.

1:10:11 Adam Yeah.

1:10:12 Caller Really?

1:10:12 Caller That's a lot.

1:10:13 Adam I guess so.

1:10:14 Drew Yeah.

1:10:15 Caller I kind of thought it wasn't that much.

1:10:17 Adam For a guy in construction with a 22 year old chick, it's not that much.

1:10:21 Caller But he's the same age.

1:10:22 Adam Yeah. Why don't you talk? Have you spoke about marriage?

1:10:25 Caller Totally.

1:10:26 Caller Like we live together.

1:10:27 Caller Like we've lived together the whole time. Like we're totally committed and everything.

1:10:31 Adam Well, what about marriage?

1:10:33 Caller It's just not that important.

1:10:34 Caller It's just like a piece of paper.

1:10:36 Drew Christina, that's BS.

1:10:38 Caller Why?

1:10:40 Drew That's what he says. That's not what you feel.

1:10:43 Adam Ooh. You like to get married, Christina? I don't know. But he doesn't want to get married. Yeah. Okay. He may not be the one, baby.

1:10:57 Caller Okay.

1:10:57 Adam Find yourself a guy out of the trades, you know?

1:11:00 Caller Like what should he do?

1:11:07 Adam Something with computers.

1:11:09 Caller But that's so boring.

1:11:11 Adam I know. But this guy, he drinks too much. He's sunburned all the time.

1:11:15 He doesn't drink that much. He smokes weed all day.

1:11:18 Adam He smokes weed all day. Yeah. Listen, I know these construction guys. It's either weed or it's booze. It's one or the other. Or they have like eight 502s and five restraining orders and they're off of everything now. And now it's just three pots of coffee, chain smoking and ultimate fighting championships on weekends. These are my people. I grew up with these people.

1:11:45 Caller Let's go to break.

1:11:47 Adam These are the guys who call their kids the kid. I like that. The kid and the old lady climbing up my ass. Trying to come home, catch a buzz and relax. The kids and the old lady.

1:12:00 Drew They cosign their BS. They sign right on. Oh, that wedding stuff is just a piece of paper. That's BS.

1:12:07 Adam Alright, we'll be back.

1:12:11 Loveline will be right back, so get your problems ready, ready, ready. This is Loveline, 105.3 KITS San Francisco, Live 105.

1:12:54 Adam Hey, y'all, Love Line. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Special Halloween lightning round coming up tonight.

1:13:01 Caller Oh, boy.

1:13:02 Adam I've gone to the fact machine, I picked up some weather reports coming in from around the Southland.

1:13:08 Drew Traffic.

1:13:09 Adam Traffic, of course, very important, especially on the radio. We all know how many times traffic has made a positive, well, the traffic report, it's, well, put it this way, I've heard 20,000 traffic reports in my life and it's saved my ass probably two times, so it's a shock and it's fine. Mostly I hear the traffic reports from my house when I'm getting ready to leave in the morning and pay no attention to them.

1:13:37 Drew But then, you know, the morning television I pick them up too now, so it's good. So you got them on radio and television.

1:13:45 Adam Is there anything, I really mean it, can you think of a subject that has more time dedicated to it that means less to everybody than traffic reports? You know what I mean? You got helicopters buzzing around in the air, they're breaking in every five minutes, and yet it doesn't seem to matter because you take the same goddamn route to work every day. That's it. And by the way, if everyone did start paying attention to traffic reports, then everyone gets off the freeway at the same off-ramp and that's all backed up too, at least out here in LA. But we got some traffic, we got some weather coming up, maybe a surf, surf report.

1:14:27 Drew And of course the time.

1:14:29 Adam It's important to get the time in. Yeah, it's one of those radio things where you got to kill a lot of time. Ron?

1:14:36 Caller Hello, Adam.

1:14:38 Caller Hey, hey, Drew, how you doing?

1:14:40 Adam What's happening, Ron?

1:14:42 Caller I, uh, think bad of you.

1:14:44 Thank you. I want to know, do monkeys masturbate?

1:14:47 Adam Yes.

1:14:48 Caller All right.

1:14:50 Caller Hey, you have a good one, man.

1:14:52 Adam All right, Ron. Take care, bro. Keep partying. All right, keep it up.

1:14:56 Caller Whoa.

1:14:57 Adam That's just a sample of what you guys are going to be getting in about 10, 15 minutes.

1:15:02 Drew Ron?

1:15:02 Adam Ace Rockolla.

1:15:03 Drew Yeah, Ron is kind of a race, Ace guy. I think he thinks he's a radio.

1:15:07 Caller Probably.

1:15:08 Adam Really had the voice for it. David? Yes. What's up?

1:15:13 Caller Uh, not too much. I've got a couple of questions for you. Um, one, the first one I really want to know. I have problems talking to girls that I don't really know.

1:15:24 Caller I can't hit on girls.

1:15:26 Caller Like go to a bar and get numbers.

1:15:28 Drew I don't think either Adam or I could ever do that.

1:15:31 Adam Well, I can now because I'm, you know, literally a millionaire.

1:15:34 Drew But when you were...

1:15:35 Adam Literally.

1:15:36 Drew Think about it. When you were 22, forget it.

1:15:39 Adam Forget it.

1:15:40 Drew No way.

1:15:41 Caller Well, the thing that was confusing me is I'm a very outgoing guy. You know, I can run around parties butt naked without having to drink a beer to begin with, you know?

1:15:49 Adam Right.

1:15:49 Caller But when it comes to talking to a girl, I turn beet red and then I get really stupid.

1:15:54 Adam Yeah.

1:15:55 Drew Well, so you compensate by running around naked all the time.

1:15:57 Adam You ever had a girlfriend?

1:15:59 Caller Yeah, I've had... Actually, I just got out of a relationship with a girl.

1:16:03 Adam How'd you get that girlfriend?

1:16:05 Caller We've known each other for about 10 years.

1:16:08 Adam All right. And have you ever met a girl and asked her out on a date anywhere?

1:16:14 Caller No. Couldn't do it.

1:16:15 Drew You couldn't ask somebody out?

1:16:17 Caller No.

1:16:17 Adam Huh. If you ever go to a party and talk to anybody?

1:16:21 Caller Nope. Mainly guys. Just go up and shoot the breeze with them.

1:16:26 Adam And now, you're a single guy now, right?

1:16:29 Caller Yes, I am.

1:16:30 Adam What do you do? You go to school?

1:16:31 Caller I'm going to school. Trying to get a job back in the IT field.

1:16:36 Drew Where are we going here though? It's just so normal. We sort of prefer guys like this, right?

1:16:41 Adam Yeah, it means you're not an a-hole.

1:16:42 Drew Yeah, it means you're normal. It's painful, it's awful. You'll have your time in about ten years.

1:16:47 Adam If he feels it's a problem, then you know.

1:16:49 Drew But what 22 year old doesn't think that's a problem? Really, seriously.

1:16:53 Adam Okay, but I agree with you, Drew, but at a certain point, if it's below a certain point, I mean, if you're absolutely petrified to...

1:16:59 Drew You cannot, yeah.

1:17:01 Adam Well, look, drink a few beers and go up and start talking to someone.

1:17:05 Drew Well, how about have friends introduce you, that kind of thing. Use more social convention to get to meet people and talk to them.

1:17:11 Adam Robert?

1:17:12 Caller Yeah. You're 19?

1:17:14 Caller Yeah.

1:17:15 Adam What's up?

1:17:17 Caller I went to a friend of mine's church with him, again, invited me and whatnot. And he teaches the youth group. Well, anyway, afterwards, these 14, 15 year old girls started coming up and hitting on me, asked me to go out with them, stuff like that. And it was making me really uncomfortable. So, anyways, afterwards, I went to talk to my girlfriend about it. And she said, Well, what about me? Don't that make you feel like a child molested? Because she's 16 and she's the first girl I've ever dated to yarmulke me. She was just kidding around about it. But it's really been bothering me ever since. And I've been having a hard time getting in to it. And when I do get hard, is...

1:18:05 Drew Now, are you worried about there being a legal problem here?

1:18:08 Caller Huh? Oh, no, her mom and her dad's totally fine with it.

1:18:11 Caller Oh, boy.

1:18:12 Drew So what's the problem?

1:18:13 Adam He's giving me the creeps, though. I don't understand this. So what?

1:18:19 Caller Every time she said that, I was having a hard time becoming intimate with her.

1:18:25 Drew She means she just brought to your attention that she's three years younger than you?

1:18:29 Caller Yeah.

1:18:30 Drew You saw?

1:18:31 Adam B, there's something lurking in you that's just weird and dark and strange and f'ed up. Or C, bogus call. You know, or...

1:18:43 Drew Or doing drugs.

1:18:44 Adam Yeah. What's up? Who cares? You knew you were banging a 16 year old the whole time. Yeah. She doesn't think you're a child, Melissa. Do you feel that badly?

1:18:55 Caller It made me feel uncomfortable.

1:18:57 Adam No, it didn't. Then what else? What else is going on in your life?

1:19:02 Caller Well, she's one of my sister's best friends.

1:19:06 Adam Yeah.

1:19:08 Caller That's actually how I met her. My stepfather, my grandfather, and my cousin's husband were all child molesters.

1:19:20 Adam Oh, well, okay. Now there's something. Yeah.

1:19:23 Drew So you've already been even around this or maybe affected by it.

1:19:27 Adam You have like a rich, proud...

1:19:30 Drew Family tradition...

1:19:31 Adam .tradition of raping kids.

1:19:34 Caller Oh, funny.

1:19:35 Adam Well, some people, you know, breed thoroughbred horses and other folks are firemen, you know, and that goes all the way back.

1:19:42 Caller Well, two of them I put into an ICU.

1:19:46 Drew Two of what?

1:19:48 Caller Intensive care unit.

1:19:49 Drew Two of what?

1:19:51 Adam Two of your family members. Why? What did you do to them?

1:19:55 Caller I beat them.

1:19:57 Adam Oh, with the S word.

1:19:59 Drew Because they tried to do something to you or they had done something to you?

1:20:04 Caller I didn't know about my grandfather until afterwards, but when I found out about my cousin, husband ripping his daughters and when I found out about my daughter.

1:20:15 Drew You got some heavy...

1:20:17 Adam Oh, please Anderson, don't screw around. Robert, this is a big issue for you. That's what it is.

1:20:23 Drew And you're a violent, aggressive guy. I'm a very peaceful guy most of the time except when you become violent.

1:20:31 Adam I don't mind you beating the crap out of some child molester. I'm fine with that. But okay, here's the deal, Robert. You have this in your history. You may be a little bit freaked out in that you may worry about yourself sometimes and that you have this family history of this and you think maybe you're capable of it. Somebody may have pointed that out.

1:20:55 Drew Somebody may have gotten to him. He may be repressing this and acting it out by attacking people who are minding it by that in himself.

1:21:01 Adam You're probably right. So Robert, are you doing okay? You don't have any interest in any young people, right?

1:21:09 Caller No.

1:21:10 Adam Like I said, she's the first girl I've ever dated. You're doing okay in life?

1:21:15 Caller Yeah. I'm a 19 year old.

1:21:17 Drew Just make sure.

1:21:19 Caller And not all construction workers are drunk, drugged out.

1:21:23 Adam No. But you wait. Most of them are.

1:21:25 Drew But a lot of them are. Right, Robert. But the deal is though, when you're 24, you needn't be dating a 16 year old then. That's what you got to keep an eye on.

1:21:33 Adam You're doing fine, Robert. I'm sorry about your family.

1:21:36 Drew They probably work for a physically abusive family.

1:21:38 Adam You have a bad family. Stay away from your own family. Stay with this girl. That's fine. Don't get her pregnant. Don't hurt her. Stick with your job. Everything's good.

1:21:50 Caller Yeah.

1:21:51 Drew Keep it in balance.

1:21:52 Adam That's right. Just, you know, got to keep on keeping on. Am I right, Drew?

1:21:58 Drew That or the toxins will catch up with you.

1:22:01 Adam That's right. Steve? More toxins. You're 40?

1:22:05 Caller Uh-huh.

1:22:05 Adam What's up?

1:22:08 Caller Well, I call, you know, those porno lines.

1:22:11 Drew You're 40?

1:22:13 Caller Uh-huh.

1:22:13 Drew Okay. All right.

1:22:15 Caller And I, you know, I call those porno lines. And what I do is I disguise my voice like, you know, a woman and try to meet other.

1:22:24 Drew What does that sound like? What do you, how do you disguise your voice?

1:22:27 Adam Let's pretend. You disguise your voice as a woman and you talk to other guys and you screw with them?

1:22:33 Caller No, other women.

1:22:35 Adam Other women?

1:22:36 Caller I'm really, you know, fascinated by lesbianism.

1:22:40 Adam Okay, you want to be a lesbian. Give me your girl voice.

1:22:44 Caller Okay, hold on, because you're making me laugh right now.

1:22:47 Adam All right.

1:22:47 Caller Okay, just a minute.

1:22:48 Adam I'll give you a few minutes.

1:22:50 Caller Okay, hold on.

1:22:51 Adam Because I can see him doing it. Well, he sounds like Wayne Newton. You know Wayne Newton sounds like, Drew, like a teenager?

1:22:57 Drew Yes.

1:22:59 Caller I do have kind of a high voice. Okay, here we go. Hello, my name is Cindy. How are you? Uh-huh. Okay.

1:23:10 Adam I just got off. Wow, that's good. That's great. So you call and you talk the lesbians as Cindy. And you do all that stuff where you go, I'm touching myself, my clit is throbbing.

1:23:27 Drew What's scary is he might be talking to other guys like himself.

1:23:31 Caller Right.

1:23:32 Adam Probably four other guys on there doing a fake voice.

1:23:37 Drew Do you ever think about, the transsexuals I've dealt with, male to female, all did it in order to have lesbian relations with women?

1:23:47 Caller You mean to have a sex change operation?

1:23:50 Caller Yeah.

1:23:52 Caller I've thought of that.

1:23:53 Drew See, isn't that interesting? That's where this goes.

1:23:55 Adam Wow. Here's the bottom line, Steve. You're feeling like an F'd up guy.

1:24:01 Caller Like a weirdo, yeah.

1:24:02 Adam Pretty much. Okay. Well, how about a little therapy maybe to look into some of that stuff?

1:24:07 Caller I mean, what? Why would I? I mean, I've heard other guys are, you know, fascinated by watching lesbians and getting off of that.

1:24:14 Drew Yeah, but there's a certain, yeah, there's a certain syndrome where guys want to be a lesbian.

1:24:20 Caller Oh.

1:24:21 Drew And that's actually one of the more common reasons they get sex change operations.

1:24:25 Adam Do you have kids?

1:24:28 Caller Yeah.

1:24:28 Adam And you're married?

1:24:29 Caller Uh-huh.

1:24:30 Adam And so you have a family? Yeah. Okay, so you owe it. Stay focused. Now, here's the deal. This is a job. I mean, here's what I want to say. As a dad, with kids and a wife, you are the skipper of a ship. You cannot get drunk and fall asleep at the wheel. You will go into the rocks. You understand? You owe it to the other passengers. Yes, I want to say this to all parents. Your kids are passengers on your ship.

1:25:00 Drew On the minnow.

1:25:01 Adam You must, yes, the SS minnow, you must stay vigilant and sober. And that doesn't mean calling chicks pretending to be a lesbian four times a day. And if you do do that, you got to get some help for it. Because you'll turn, these kids will be, these kids will be loony or in tunes.

1:25:20 Drew I just think about how these people that are attacking us from the outside world must, you know what I'm saying?

1:25:27 Adam Just to point in.

1:25:29 Drew There are values that are important. There are certain priorities in life. Stick with them. Right now you have other lives that you're responsible for.

1:25:36 Adam That's right.

1:25:37 Drew Don't go down that slippery slope of acting out some remnants of your past. It is not okay.

1:25:41 Adam Control yourself. If you can't, you got to get some help. We'll be back with the lightning round. I want to suck your microphone.

1:27:13 Caller All right, let me get a little weather out of there.

1:27:14 Adam We got traffic going on.

1:27:16 Caller Slow and glow.

1:27:17 Adam Slow and glow in the 118. Look out for brake lights on the 405. We got a mattress out in number three lane. That's northbound five. And we got a traffic break. We're running on the four level exchange. Weather looks like El Hamers coming in 48 time, bar 51, hot order 50, Arcadia's 57, Montabella 55, but I swear to God, El Segundo 56, Buena Park 49. Look out. It's cool. The Hot Rod coming in, the Surino 53, Sousuke checking in at 49, and Uplit coming in at 55 degrees. Let's check the time real fast. 1148 and 20 seconds. That's 11 minutes and 40 seconds away from the top of the hour, straight up.

1:27:57 Caller The Witch in our Midnight.

1:27:59 Adam I mean, he's back on to get all the part of the Dr. Drew.

1:28:01 Caller Let's hop back on.

1:28:02 Adam The phone and take some of your calls first. Yeah. Yeah. What, again, on phones there?

1:28:14 Drew There you go.

1:28:15 Adam You want to get the surf report in, but are you going to go to the news? We got to go to the news in a minute. We want to get the surf report in.

1:28:21 Drew Are you going to give the surf report today?

1:28:22 Adam Trestles coming in at four to six. We got to swell out of North Zuma coming in at five foot, sets of six. Rincon's overhead, so it's time to get out there. The Wedge coming in at three or five, sets of six, six seconds apart. And County Lines coming in at two to four, the swell out of North. High tide, five forty-five a.m. Sunset, by the way, coming in at five thirty-three. Sunrise at five fifty-one in the morning. Let's hop the phones, start by, let's check the time real fast. It's eleven forty-nine in twenty seconds now. That's ten minutes and forty seconds away from the dot in the hour straight up to witchy hour. Ace, witchy hour, all night. Yeah, there's little gobs over there. Let's hop back to the phones. Cerritos coming in at fifty-one, hot dog at fifty. Let's hop on the phone there. Let's talk to Mark. Mark, you're twenty-one. What's going on there, brother?

1:29:12 Caller Yeah, I was wondering...

1:29:14 Adam Hey, Mark, where are you calling from? Buena Park?

1:29:16 Caller Yes, sir.

1:29:16 Adam Buena Park, checking in forty-nine degrees.

1:29:18 Caller Yeah, I was wondering how long steroids stay in your system.

1:29:22 Adam Yeah, a little juice there. I give them a big bicep. What do you say, there, Druske? How long does everyone stay in the system? Which ones? Yeah, which ones?

1:29:31 Caller Anaball or Deca?

1:29:32 Adam Anaball or Deca? I dated those twins in high school.

1:29:36 Caller Anaball or Deca.

1:29:38 Adam From Czechoslovakia.

1:29:41 Caller Oh, yeah.

1:29:42 Adam Yeah, yeah, yeah. Broke my heart. Sorry, I cried, master.

1:29:46 Drew I would think you would be...

1:29:47 Adam Yeah, let's check the time real fast. Yeah, go ahead, Druske.

1:29:50 Drew I'm not sure if that will help, whether it will be a week or...

1:29:51 Adam 1150 in 25 seconds, 9 minutes and 35 seconds away from the top of the hour. Sure enough, Ace Rockolla, good part of the day. Jack, you're okay. Go ahead, Derek.

1:29:59 Drew Mark, aren't you concerned about what this is doing to you at 21?

1:30:02 Caller Pardon?

1:30:02 Drew Aren't you concerned about what this is doing to you at 21?

1:30:05 Caller I'm only interested in doing like one cycle, and I've researched a little bit, and I've heard that if you do one, that the side effects aren't... Mark. If you just do one, you won't get any side effects.

1:30:16 Adam Hawthorne checking in at 50, also got a 56.

1:30:19 Drew Are you having to screen for a test for a sport or something?

1:30:23 Caller Yeah, exactly.

1:30:24 Drew How long after the injections?

1:30:27 Caller I haven't even done the cycle yet.

1:30:29 Caller I'm contemplating doing it.

1:30:31 Adam Mark, I don't want to check you out, but we've got a little traffic here. We've got Sloan going to 118. Look out for brake lights. Yeah, because what happens is people slow down the car and they get a brake pedal. It activates the brake lights. Look out for brake lights. Some idiot left a mattress on the number three lane. That's northbound on the five to watch out for that. We've got a police activity on the 110. That's southbound 110 off the Hawthorne exit there.

1:30:56 Drew I heard Highway Patrol is running a brake.

1:30:57 Adam Highway Patrol is running a traffic brake. That's coming off the four level where the 118 crosses the Santa Susana Pass there. Some morons trying to change a tire in the number four lane without pulling off the shoulders. Also look out for that slow and go on the 118.

1:31:13 Drew I heard they can't race. They cancelled the SIG alert.

1:31:16 Adam They did. They just lifted the SIG alert. That was on the southbound five coming out of the Hawthorne Montrose area. Drew, is there traffic over here?

1:31:27 Drew Number two.

1:31:28 Adam Did you help that person? No, I don't think you did.

1:31:30 Drew No, I don't know the answer to that.

1:31:31 Adam Ben?

1:31:32 Drew What's up?

1:31:33 Adam Ben, you're 21. Hey, let me tell you something. Point of Park checking in at 49, Le Havre 61, Montrose 57, Cerritos 53, Southgate coming in chilly, 49, Upland 55, Monrovia, and even 62.

1:31:48 Drew What's up, Ben?

1:31:50 Caller I like to say, Adam, man, you're hilarious, man.

1:31:52 Adam You rock. Yeah, thank you, man. Trestles checking in at four to six, Wells Island Northwest at ten minute intervals. Thank you. What's going on? What's happening over there?

1:32:01 Drew Doheny and...

1:32:03 Adam In Rincon, they're walking the nose.

1:32:05 Drew What's up, Ben?

1:32:06 Adam Yeah, I had this question.

1:32:07 Caller I've been having this reoccurring dream about losing my front teeth.

1:32:11 Drew Kind of spitting them out in the middle of the night?

1:32:12 Caller Yeah, either that or it's like I'll be in a situation where I'm with somebody or they'll fall out or they'll come loose and just be hanging there.

1:32:19 Adam Yeah, Drew, you know the answer to that one. Spit it out real fast. First, let me check the time. Eleven fifty-two and...

1:32:26 Caller No, it's eleven fifty-three straight up.

1:32:28 Adam Seven minutes away from the time of the hour. Straight up to witching hour on a big Halloween night. I smack down the middle light and run fast as eight and a half minutes away.

1:32:35 Caller I'm Ace Rockolla.

1:32:36 Adam Good part over there. Dr. Drew Loveline checking in at fifty-five, South Gate forty-nine. Cerritos fifty-three. You got a traffic break right around one eighteen. At Trezles checking in at four to six overhead. It swells every ten seconds. Go ahead.

1:32:46 Drew Then the teeth falling out thing is you often grinding teeth at night.

1:32:49 Adam You're riding to see the night.

1:32:50 Drew A symptom...

1:32:51 Adam Zoom checking in at five feet of anxiety. Rincon is overhead. Wedge coming in at three to five feet with set to six. Go down the county line. What line do you want to go to? Line four? Line three or line four? What is it, buddy? Hey, Kim, you're nineteen. What's going on here? How can we help you? You sound hot. You sound hot, baby.

1:33:14 Caller Thanks.

1:33:15 Adam Where are you calling from? El Monte?

1:33:16 Caller Yeah.

1:33:17 Adam The El Monte is checking in at fifty-four degrees.

1:33:19 Drew What's your question? Quick. We have a few seconds. Kim, go.

1:33:21 Caller Real quick. My question, the morning after pill, if I can't get it, can I use a regular pill?

1:33:28 Drew Which pill you got?

1:33:30 Caller Orthotri-cyclin.

1:33:31 Adam Orthotri-cyclin. What do you say? No.

1:33:33 Drew I mean, yes, you can, but no. They better get the morning after. You need ethanol, estradiol, and...

1:33:44 Adam Let me check the time. Oh, let me check the traffic. Slow and go on the 118. Look out for brake lights. We got a traffic break. We run on the 5. We got a mattress in the back. Some moron is changing his tire on the 118, and they just lifted the single that's coming off the 5 northbound. If you people are heading out to the airport, you're going to want to take the La Tierra Exit over there because we got a spilled load over there. We got a Bobcat is colliding with a moped.

1:34:16 Drew I got a spilled load right now.

1:34:17 Adam Drew is going to spill out. We're going to take ourselves a break. Drew, we'll be right back. It's never goblins and ghouls, is it? It's always ghouls and goblins.

1:35:22 Caller I'd like to swap that around.

1:35:23 Adam I'm going to make that my life's work. And thanks for listening. I hope you had a safe time tonight. And we'll be back tomorrow night with more shows. Until next time, it's Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.

1:35:37 Caller Alright. So, Drew's looking extra gay tonight? Extra super gay. Extra super gay.

1:35:43 This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Engel. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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