Episode 1000754886213

6:35 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew. Love Line, Coast to Coast.

6:46 Voiceover Hey, everybody, it's Loveline, I'm Adam Carolla, that's Dr. Drew over there, phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, board certified physician, and addiction medicine specialist. Serenity is our guest tonight.

7:02 Hello.

7:03 Adam You recognize Serenity from her many, many, many, many, many adult film roles. How many movies have you made?

7:10 I don't know, I stopped counting after 50, but that sounds like I did a lot, but probably under 100.

7:17 Adam Hey, you know, today, if you're like a contract girl, you're not doing 70 movies a year or 100 movies a year, right?

7:27 Right, that's correct.

7:28 Adam I mean, like, if you were an adult film actress, let's say from 1980 to 1990, you may have done 1,500 films or something, right? I mean, you could do an incredible number back then, but now you're doing 100 in that same time period, right?

7:46 Well, even the independents still do a lot. The whole idea is they don't make a monthly salary. So they're only making money by the movie. So thus it's in their best interest to make 1 or 2 movies or 3 movies every day.

7:59 Adam Every day?

8:01 If they can, they will. Yeah, absolutely. Whereas a contract girl, one of her biggest responsibilities is to do promotion, to travel to conventions, to travel to distributors, to make that product sell more. So it's in the movie company's best interest to do less movies. For instance, for Wicked Pictures, I do about 6 movies a year, if I can fit them in.

8:26 Adam I've stuck on the fit them in part.

8:29 Drew In her schedule.

8:30 Adam Oh, schedule-wise. Right, right. Do they want you to do more or less, or would they rather have you on the road? What would you rather do?

8:41 Well, I like doing both. Doing the promotion, obviously, is very exciting because you get to travel and meet interesting people.

8:48 Adam Hold on, interesting people? You mean guys with cut-off sweatpants and an erection, swillin at Gatorade that they'd freshened up with a little outrigger rum and had been in line for 19 hours. Wearing a fishing hat that was fashioned out of beer cans.

9:04 I have met all kinds of people on the road. I mean, there's a lot of people I can't mention, necessarily. Horrible, horrible people. No, some really very interesting, very famous.

9:18 Adam Really?

9:19 Political or sports or people. You get sat next to them on planes or in a restaurant. Or sometimes they come in to get autograph.

9:28 Adam All right, but they're not showing up. Oh, really?

9:31 Sometimes, yeah. Hey, everybody likes it.

9:35 Adam Serenity was on the Man Show a couple of times, which is on tonight, by the way, as you know. Sunday Night Show. Very big episode this week. I'm teaching karate to the kids. It's a huge episode. Anderson, put that Man Show on over there. It's a big, big episode. Serenity is also here to act as a spokesperson for PETA's Pleather Yourself.

10:00 The Pleather Yourself campaign.

10:01 Adam I'm guessing, don't use leather, use?

10:03 Pleather.

10:04 Adam Pleather.

10:05 Pleather sucks, doesn't it? No, it doesn't. It's great.

10:08 Adam For what?

10:10 For nothing. I use it for shoes, pants, jackets.

10:15 Adam Guys can't wear pleather shoes. Yes, they can. Are you kidding? How gay is a guy in a pleather shoe and a pleather jacket?

10:21 It is much better than leather. It'll actually last longer. You don't have a lot of chemicals that are attached to it.

10:28 Adam Leather. What's pleather made out of?

10:30 Pleather is actually a synthetic plastic.

10:32 A chemical.

10:34 Well, it is.

10:35 It is, obviously. It's a plastic. But when they prepare leather, they use actually cyanide, all kinds of these awful, awful chemicals to make it so it doesn't deteriorate.

10:48 Adam Still better for you than the pleather.

10:49 No.

10:50 Adam But don't work the pleather. Don't work the better for you angle.

10:53 Well, you're the one that brought that up.

10:55 Adam Listen, if a pleather belt caught on fire, you'd die breathing in whatever came off of it.

11:00 Oh, please.

11:01 Adam Obviously. But it's for the cows, right?

11:04 Yes, absolutely. The cows, the pigs, the goats.

11:07 Adam Here's what I can't figure out. If we're eating the ones we use for the hide, then isn't it okay to use the hide?

11:16 Caller Well, no, because that's not the way it works, actually.

11:18 Adam How does it work?

11:19 Caller Actually, the leather industry is what supports the slaughterhouses as opposed to their meat sales. So the more you buy leather, the more they're going to slaughter the cows anyways, and the meat is just a buy, it's just an extra.

11:34 Adam Well, so let me ask, I've always been a little curious about this. So if you're a rancher, and you own a slaughterhouse, you make more money off of the leather, off the hide, than you do off of the steaks.

11:49 Drew My understanding is that most ranches in this country are owned by McDonald's.

11:54 Caller I would not, I don't know either way.

11:55 Drew That's what I understand. Most of the stuff is owned by a fast food company.

11:58 Adam Well, it makes sense that all the fast food companies are probably the largest consumers to be.

12:04 Drew But it doesn't make sense that McDonald's would stop slaughtering cows if they couldn't get the leather.

12:08 Caller Well, it wouldn't be so much that. The problem is that they're making so much money off the leather. And the biggest problem, and what concerns me the most actually, is how these animals are treated before they're killed.

12:20 Adam No respect.

12:21 Caller It's less than respect. I mean, it's just horrible.

12:25 Drew Do you remember Tom Arnold talking about work on the slaughterhouse floor?

12:27 Adam Yeah. Tom had sex with all the animals before they went to the slaughterhouse. Is that what he said?

12:32 Drew No.

12:32 Adam Oh, that was during the commercial. He told us not to say anything. That's right. Oh, God. No, I know.

12:37 Caller You're mine.

12:38 Adam It's abysmal. I'm not happy about that, but you know what?

12:41 Caller But you can do something about it, and one of the things you can do is start buying pleather instead of leather. And it's a lot cheaper. It is? It's going to stand up. Yes.

12:48 Adam What? Like you want a pleather car seat?

12:50 Caller Yeah.

12:51 Absolutely.

12:53 Adam I don't know, because everyone's ass is going to get cancer from this pleather and then we're going to sue the pleather industry 20 years from now.

12:58 Caller No, but you know, people that live around the tanneries are actually coming down with lots of cases of cancer.

13:03 Adam Well, show me something made of pleather that you're ironically not wearing.

13:08 Shoes?

13:09 Adam Oh, that's pleather?

13:10 Caller That's pleather.

13:10 Adam That looks all right. I'm picturing like a vinyl.

13:13 Caller No, see, you're thinking of the...

13:14 Adam Pull that off. Let's have a look, see.

13:16 Caller Okay. You're thinking of the old fashion, you know, before they actually had the technology to really turn it into something worthwhile. And in my jacket...

13:24 Drew Well, you can't tell this isn't leather.

13:26 Caller Although this isn't necessarily pleather, this is a suede, a fake suede material. And you can tell from the fur, it's meant to look really fake, but the actual suede part is very nice and subtle.

13:37 Adam Yeah, these are nice.

13:39 Caller Yeah.

13:39 Adam All right. Everyone get that pleather. But I'll tell you what's not going to work in pleather.

13:44 Caller What?

13:44 Adam Baseball mitts.

13:46 Caller Well, you know, they make baseballs in pleather.

13:48 Adam Yeah, I know, but they're always crappy. The baseball mitt and like the batting glove and the golf glove, that kind of stuff is no good in pleather. Says who? Says Mr. Cow.

13:59 Caller But you know, you can go to cowsarecool.com and get a whole listing of all different stores and designers that actually make really cool clothing in pleather.

14:09 Adam Alright, alright.

14:10 Caller And you can also see my picture there too.

14:12 Adam Fantastic. Chicks love cows and horses. Chicks love horses. I mean, when did you, like, you wanted to be a veterinarian when you were eight, right?

14:22 Caller Actually, I just wanted to save the animals when I was young. I used to like save all the little worms that would come out from the rain.

14:29 Adam What percentage of veterinarians are female in society?

14:33 Drew Good question. I don't know that.

14:35 Adam But it's not over 50 percent.

14:38 Caller How do you know?

14:39 Adam I just know it's not.

14:40 Drew It's not way over.

14:41 Adam No, no. I'd say it's under 50 percent. If you were gambling, you'd say it'd be under 50 percent. Yeah, if you were gambling, yeah. You just don't see them. You watch those nature channels. You see a chick pop up once in a while, but it's usually guy veterinarians. But no eight-year-old guy announces he's going to be a veterinarian. I think he announced he's going to be a brain surgeon and then smokes too much weed in college and ends up being a veterinarian. What happened to every chick who announced he was going to be a veterinarian at age eight? You chicks, you got no follow-through. That's your problem.

15:10 Drew You chicks.

15:11 Adam That's the problem. No follow-through.

15:13 Caller Hey, I'm trying to save the animals.

15:14 Drew Speaking of you chicks, I spent an hour easy with Adam's girlfriend and Jimmy's wife on Saturday night just accumulating stories about you guys. I had so much S on YouTube. I had to start writing notes. I even showed out of the note card that I had because it was just out of control.

15:32 Caller How much do you want for that?

15:34 No, I'm going to talk about it.

15:35 Adam Anything good?

15:36 Drew What do you got, Drew? You guys shared something with you last night.

15:38 Adam Well, Loveline, so I break wind in bed once in a blue moon.

15:43 Drew So bad one time, his girlfriend laughing hysterically said she had this nightmare that she was crossing the street and somebody was honking the horn at her. When she came to in a panic, realized it was Adam passing gas.

15:56 Adam Yeah, that's the ultimate compliment when you can be woven into someone's dream.

16:00 Drew Then when she complained about it, told him, oh, it's just awfully when, oh, honey, you're trying to flatter me.

16:04 You're trying to make me happy.

16:07 Adam No, I have a girlfriend. We're very much in love.

16:12 Caller Oh, my God.

16:13 Adam You ready to move forward here?

16:15 Drew I got lots more where that can fit.

16:16 Adam Well, Serenity, you'll have to be my new girlfriend now. Cory?

16:21 Drew Yeah.

16:22 Adam Hold on. What's going on on the man show there?

16:24 Oh, for sake.

16:26 Adam No, please.

16:27 Drew Commercial.

16:28 Adam No, commercial. All right. Cory?

16:30 Drew I'm throwing a football, Adam.

16:31 Adam No, that's not me. Cory, you're 18. What's up?

16:35 Caller Yeah. I have a question about my relationships that I've had in the past as well as recently and that is, it seems like when the relationship starts, everything is going well and smooth and stuff. Then it seems like out of nowhere, just when I think things are going really well, the girl decides to tell me she doesn't want to see me anymore. So not all together, just in a relationship.

16:57 Drew How many times has this happened?

16:59 Caller About three or four. Three or four times. When I ask them why, they say stuff like, I don't think I'm right for you because it seems like you're too good for me. You deserve someone better.

17:12 Adam I always love that one. You're too good for me.

17:14 Drew No, you deserve someone better.

17:16 Caller I really don't understand. They say like you're too sweet and everything, and I'm like, how can you be too sweet? I mean, am I supposed to start acting like a jerk or something? It's like...

17:22 Drew No, anything we should know about the kind of women you are attracted to?

17:25 Caller I'm sorry?

17:26 Drew Anything we should know about the women you're attracted to?

17:28 Caller Well, it's been a variety. It's not like they're all the same or anything.

17:32 Adam Okay. Listen, here's what's up. Too sweet means a puss.

17:36 Drew It's a code.

17:37 Adam Yeah, it means too soft.

17:39 Drew No, no.

17:40 Caller It's the way you let somebody down softly. It has nothing to do with what is actually happening.

17:46 Drew So, Serenity said they're lying flat out.

17:49 Caller Absolutely.

17:50 Drew No relation to reality. We're saying is the guys that tend to hear that though, or guys that- Needy guys who are not present. They're not, any guy that would say, why, why? Already that's like, hey, bop, bop, bop.

18:00 Adam No, but you know the guys that are real clingy and real needy, and just kind of give you the heebie-jeebies.

18:05 Caller Not for very long.

18:06 Adam And you wish you could like them except for they're like too needy and clingy and all that stuff. And you go, you know what, you're so nice. You're too nice for me. There's someone who will like you. I'm not even, you know, those, these are the people you almost apologetically break up with. But what you're really saying is you're so needy. You're making me sick.

18:24 Caller I don't know. I just think it's a soft way of just it's probably getting rid of somebody.

18:28 Adam But listen, if you got a guy that you that you just want to give, you just want to blow off.

18:34 Caller Right.

18:36 Adam You usually say that it's about me.

18:38 Like right now, I'm not in a place where I can have a relationship.

18:42 Caller But how old was he again?

18:44 Adam He's 18.

18:45 Caller Yes. I think you're thinking way too mature for that.

18:47 Adam No, but listen to the guy. You can tell he's needy.

18:50 Drew I'd say part of our reaction is to him.

18:52 Yeah.

18:54 Okay.

18:54 Caller I'll take your word for that.

18:55 All right.

18:55 Adam Corey.

18:56 Caller Yeah.

18:57 Adam Don't mistake being needy and insecure with being nice. Do you know what I'm saying?

19:04 Caller For instance, the strange thing is like, for instance, the one that was most recent. A few days ago, she came back to me and said, she's been trying to change for the better and all this stuff. And she was saying it basically she wanted me back. And she said she guaranteed that it wouldn't happen again. And she thought about it and realized that it was more than she thought it was. And that's the strange thing because it's like it didn't make any sense about what she said the first time. Yeah. Well, she tried to fix it with the same thing.

19:30 Drew A lot of people can't deal with the parting part of breaking up and like a lot of these needy guys are really good co-dependents and will attract that kind of person.

19:40 Adam She's back then, right? Is that what's going on?

19:42 Caller I wouldn't take her back.

19:43 Caller No.

19:44 Adam Well, why not?

19:45 Caller Yeah, because she's just...

19:46 Adam She's desperate.

19:47 Caller Yeah, but... What are you doing? I don't know what you had.

19:50 Adam I learned mistakes.

19:50 That's right.

19:52 Adam Hey, Sammy? Sammy. Caller goes by the name Sammy16.

20:02 All right.

20:03 Adam Jeff? Jeff. Jeff, you're 37. What's up?

20:07 Caller Hey, probably 80. I think the last time was 86. I broke my nose twice, both within... Actually broke it the first time in high school wrestling, 82, sorry. The second time was about two days after I was getting the bandages off, somebody pulled out in front of me and slammed it in the steering wheel again. I seem to remember smelling or being able to smell after that. And I can smell stuff, some stuff now, but I was wondering, because of using chemicals in the Navy, would it deteriorate that ability? And is there any way to fix it?

20:48 Drew What chemicals?

20:50 Caller Some of the stuff was like NAPSA. I painted aircraft all the time. And sometimes when you're working in a hangar bay, there's not a whole lot of inhalation.

21:00 Adam Were you spraying them? Oh yeah. You're spraying aircraft and wearing a respirator?

21:07 Caller Wearing a respirator, but sometimes when commanding officers want an airplane done, they want it done and sometimes you don't have a whole lot of time to do a whole lot of safe stuff, which is really stupid on my part, but unfortunately it pays off in the long run sometimes because you get good easements.

21:25 Drew Mostly we worry about actually brain damage from the inhaled chidocarbons.

21:30 Adam But not to say?

21:31 Drew I've not had anybody get any smell problems. You have plenty of reasons to have difficulty with olfactory function after having two traumatic nasal fractures. So I would look more to the mechanical aspects of what's going on. You may have occlusion. There may still be some leftover stuff that can be repaired.

21:46 Adam What color schemes were you painting on those planes?

21:50 Caller If you ever go online to VAQ.

21:53 Adam No, no one's going to do that. Just tell me.

21:57 Caller Let's see. VAQ 136 is a...

22:01 Drew He's telling you. He's telling you what it is.

22:04 Adam All right.

22:05 Drew Go.

22:06 Caller VAQ.

22:06 Adam Okay. Go.

22:07 Caller The other one's a dragon.

22:09 Drew A dragon.

22:09 Adam Dragon. All right. On fighter, what kind of planes?

22:13 Caller EA-6B. They're electronic warfare aircraft.

22:17 Drew What?

22:17 Caller They're the first-year planes that go in before bombers go in.

22:21 Adam Are they like AWAC? Oh, I know what they are. Drones?

22:25 Drew Like drones?

22:26 Adam No, no, no. They're piloted.

22:28 Caller They're piloted and they have a back seat.

22:30 Adam Right.

22:31 Caller They're two...

22:33 Adam Two-seaters, yeah.

22:34 Caller Four people, four radio operators, a Rio and a bomb. Whatever.

22:37 Adam Thanks there, Jeff. Doing God's work. I like when the guys get the chalk and write suppository for Bin Laden and stuff on a 2,000-pound bomb. And then I like when some idiot gets hold of this, the news gets hold of it, and it's like... And by the way, this is why the military does not want the news hanging around all the time because some sailor takes a piece of chalk and writes up your ass, Bin Laden, on a 2,000-pound bomb, and now we've offended the Arab community, and we're going to have to put an end to this, and now we've got to discipline this guy. Would you really want people poking around when you're trying to kill people? Do you know what I mean?

23:13 Drew Why do we want to see that? What is it about? Help me.

23:17 Adam I don't know.

23:17 Caller I think it's great, though.

23:19 Adam Why do we want to see it? We want to see it.

23:21 Drew I know, but why do we have to... Why is it our right to see it? Why is it a violation of...

23:25 Adam I don't think it's our right to see it.

23:27 Drew Please, anything that endangers anyone out there, not our right.

23:30 Adam No, but this doesn't endanger anybody. This just gets people disciplined who are out killing people for a living. You know, we're trying to kill people for a living, and we got these left-wing pansies asking us why we wrote mean things on the 2,000-pound daisy cutter in chalk before we dropped it on them. This is the upsetting part of war to them. And then we answer to them. And then we pretend like it never happens. This guy was a rogue guy. He'll be disciplined. This won't happen. The answer would be, hey, pansy, off the ship. Yeah. Or get, start peeling potatoes, you wuss. This is why we don't need the news agencies over there. All right. What's going on with the man show over there? What's going on?

24:16 Drew It sucks, Vandersen said, huh?

24:18 Adam What's going on?

24:20 Drew Nothing. Oh, here you go.

24:23 You're standing at a bar, about to drink a beer.

24:25 Drew It's riveting. It's riveting.

24:27 Adam Hey, Anderson, shut up. Would you shut up?

24:30 We've all been in here laughing our asses off.

24:31 Adam Shut up. You've seen us laughing at Joey.

24:34 Drew Anderson, come on. Adam, Adam.

24:37 Adam I'm just tired of Anderson.

24:38 Of course he has to take a shot at you.

24:40 Drew Of course.

24:41 All right. You've got fat guys playing tubas.

24:43 Adam Just tired. Is it going to commercial or not?

24:46 I don't know.

24:47 Adam All right. Just give them, give them. Oh, jeez. I don't know who's worse. Is there a fourth person in that room that I could talk to?

24:57 Drew Lauren, here she comes.

24:59 Adam Lauren, what's going on on the TV right now?

25:02 Caller Yeah, it's really funny.

25:04 Adam What's going on?

25:07 This is the fat guy talking.

25:10 Adam Is it going to a commercial or not?

25:12 No, it's the Germans. It's the German bit.

25:14 Drew The Oompa band.

25:16 Oh, number one, stretch out. This is great radio.

25:20 Adam Is it going to a commercial or not?

25:21 No, not going to a commercial.

25:23 Adam All right.

25:24 Drew Do you want to stop here?

25:25 I think we should, though.

25:26 Yeah.

25:28 Drew So you can watch it.

25:29 Adam No, no, I got to wait till we go to a commercial. I got to wait till the main show goes to a commercial.

25:32 Drew I thought you liked to watch it. No?

25:36 Adam Oh, wait a minute. You're right. But then, you know, I'm going to go walk in there and it's going to be to a commercial. Didn't we try this last time where they said, no, we're not a commercial? I got out and walked in and the commercial just started. Right. What name is that?

25:48 Drew Neuron? Neuron? Neuron. Okay.

25:52 Adam You're 12?

25:53 Caller Yeah.

25:54 Adam What's up?

25:55 Caller Well, every time, well, I get like a boner at anonymous times like anytime if I'm in school.

26:03 Adam Right. You got to keep them guessing.

26:05 Caller Yeah. And then once they do, if I'm like at home or near a bathroom, I would masturbate and like it's like come out and then it's still there for like.

26:21 Drew For how long? For how long?

26:24 Caller Like 10 minutes.

26:26 Drew Well, I don't know. These are things that should be celebrated. You know what I mean?

26:31 Adam Yeah.

26:32 Drew These will not last very long.

26:33 Adam Don't wear sweats.

26:35 Drew Wear jeans.

26:36 Adam Is something's coming out of you at age 12?

26:39 Yeah.

26:40 Drew Yeah, it happens.

26:40 All right.

26:41 Adam All right. Good times there.

26:43 All right.

26:44 Adam Let's take a break.

26:44 All right.

26:45 Adam Serenity is here. She's saying, don't eat cows and wear stuff out of pleather and we'll be back. Hey, Loveline, everybody. Serenity is our guest tonight. She's in the studio. She's here as the spokesperson for Pleather Yourself, which is a organization from PETA. And she's, yeah, cowsarecool.com is where you can go to learn more about Pleather. And she also has herself her own line of adult novelty items. Is that what you'd call them?

27:58 Caller Well, it's actually my company, Las Vegas Novelties.

28:01 Adam And why would you call novel novelties? To me, that's a hand buzzer or a sporting carnation.

28:09 Drew That's the fart in a can you had to talk about last night.

28:12 Adam Right.

28:12 Caller Well, it can be anything. That's why it's a novelty. They're adult toys and novelties. It's just one of the words that we use to label these types of...

28:22 Adam Yeah, it's better than stuff you shove up your ass company.

28:26 Caller Yeah.

28:28 Adam And those are your feet.

28:29 Caller Yeah, these are an exact replica of my feet from Las Vegas Novelties.

28:33 Adam They're pretty good sized dogs you got there.

28:35 Caller Hey, they're average.

28:37 They're just average feet.

28:39 Adam Decent sized dogs. And they did a casting of your feet, and then you were manufacturing them out of latex, I guess this is?

28:48 Caller No, actually it's not. It's not latex. I can't tell you exactly what it is.

28:55 Adam But it's not latex.

28:56 Caller It's not latex, no.

28:58 Adam Does it have latex in it?

28:59 Caller No.

28:59 Adam Well, what the hell is that?

29:01 Caller All of our plastics are latex-free, actually.

29:04 Adam Oh, because some people are allergic to them?

29:06 Caller Some people are allergic to latex, yeah. Yeah, it's pretty horrible.

29:09 Adam How much do the feet go for?

29:11 Caller At your stores?

29:13 Adam Yeah, let's say over at the Walmart.

29:17 Caller You know, it's so hard for me. I only know distributor prices. I guess they would go for like 60 bucks.

29:22 Adam Yeah, it's not bad. And it's your actual feet.

29:26 Caller It's my actual feet.

29:27 Adam And there's a lot of nut jobs with foot fetishes out there.

29:30 Caller Yes, and they've never had a toy before.

29:32 Drew What is it with guys that are into that, you think?

29:34 Adam Oh, they're so wrong with those guys.

29:35 Caller Well, you know, I've never tried to analyze them. All I know is that the ones that are into it are just into it. Period, end of story. They don't care if they're dirty or clean.

29:44 Adam Their toy should be a straight jacket.

29:46 Oh, stop.

29:48 Adam Those guys need to be rounded up.

29:49 There's nothing wrong with it.

29:50 Adam Just pushed off a cliff into the ocean.

29:51 No, there's nothing wrong with it.

29:52 Adam Yes, yes, they're horrible, scary people.

29:54 Caller They give wonderful foot massages.

29:56 Adam Well, it's weird. If you ever do meet a guy who does give you a foot massage, you got to figure if it goes on longer, like four minutes, and he's not trying to slide upstairs and get something, there's a weird fetish going on there, right? How many guys are going to hang out on the feet for more than eight or ten minutes? All right, yeah, there's something wrong with them. But Serenity has a strap on.

30:16 Caller Oh, you got to check this out, pulsator. Push back on, it's touch activated.

30:20 Adam Wait, the battery's not in it?

30:22 Caller Yes, it is.

30:23 Adam I'm looking at a battery right there.

30:24 Caller Yeah, it's an extra one.

30:25 Adam Oh, really?

30:26 Caller Yeah.

30:26 Adam All right, so what do I do with this?

30:28 Caller Well, normally you would put it on yourself.

30:29 Adam Oh.

30:30 Caller Yes, and it's touch activated.

30:31 Adam Oh, I put it on my penis?

30:32 Caller Uh-huh. And then when you enter, when it hits the other body, it would start to vibrate.

30:38 Adam Oh, oh.

30:38 Caller And that's the pulsator.

30:40 Adam So you can be inside a woman and get some clitoral stimulation at the same time?

30:46 Caller Absolutely, yeah. That way it keeps you erect.

30:50 Adam And what if I like slip this on before I F'd your fake feet over there? Would it do anything for the feet at all? Would it tickle them?

30:59 Caller For the fake feet?

31:00 Adam No, you don't think so?

31:01 Caller I don't think so.

31:02 Adam All right. Well, this is a nice item.

31:05 Caller It's a wonderful item.

31:06 Adam Put a little duck paper on my penis so it doesn't slide off.

31:08 Drew It's a grommet, too.

31:10 Adam Got a nice fake vagina thing over here.

31:15 Caller Oh, this is you? Yeah, this is actually made out of our new sensual field, the Ultima series.

31:19 Adam Yeah, sure.

31:20 Caller It's completely indestructible.

31:23 Adam It just pulled a fake vagina. Well, there's a receptacle. Don't you have a drain at the bottom of that thing?

31:30 Caller Well, you can cut it. You can cut it if you want to.

31:32 Adam Yeah, let's say so.

31:33 Caller You know, but the thing is, is that, you know, if a guy, you want it to be able to stretch with how long he is. So I don't cut it.

31:38 Adam I don't need that kind of.

31:40 Caller Well, you know. Yeah.

31:42 Adam Is that your actual vagina there?

31:43 Caller Yeah, every little line.

31:45 Adam Nice. Drew, you want to talk to her?

31:46 Caller Nice nubby sleeve.

31:48 Adam It actually feels, it's starting to feel a little too good, really. I mean, better, if that's possible. Drew, don't feel that. Don't you want to just bite that?

32:00 Caller And then we actually make toys out of that material for women too.

32:03 Adam I like to take this so I can keep changing, you know, meter change in it, my car.

32:07 Caller It works. You can actually keep pens in it too. It makes a good pen holder.

32:10 Caller All right.

32:12 Caller We also have a strap-on kit, which is awesome. It's not made out of leather. It's made out of pleather.

32:18 Adam Right. Oh, this vibrates?

32:20 Caller Yes. Yes, that's our jelly series. They come in wonderful colors.

32:23 Adam A nice penis here with a vibrator and then the strap-on.

32:27 Caller Non-toxic food grade material. And the strap-ons, actually I made them so that the woman is totally able to receive as well as give, and it will fit just about everyone. Because most of the strap-ons that are out there, they just don't fit.

32:40 Adam They're not for the big gals?

32:41 Caller No. Not at all.

32:43 Adam It's a shame. It's important that the plus-sized gals get a chance to nail hubby in the rear end with the strap-on.

32:48 Caller Everybody needs to have fun. But you can find the complete line or where to buy it at lasvegasnovelties.com.

32:55 Adam All right. I'll tell you.

32:59 Caller It's lots of fun.

33:00 Adam I'll tell you. It has come further than dentistry in the last 20 years. Drew, stop me if I'm wrong. The dildo and butt plug business has made amazing advancements in the last 10 to 15 years compared to dentistry. One more thing I'll bring up at the dentist.

33:19 Drew He'll be impressed.

33:20 Adam Mark?

33:21 Hey.

33:22 Adam You're 15.

33:23 Caller I was just wondering how often would someone have to smoke pod for it to be harmful to them?

33:27 Drew At your age, there is some studies that have suggested even once a month. I'm not sure I totally believe that, but certainly once a week could. If you're preoccupied about it and thinking about it and are pursuing it every day, then that's addiction. It's going to be very difficult for you to stop it. Addiction with marijuana is a switch that gets thrown very quickly and once you're in that loop, it's extremely, extremely hard to stop and basically should be treated.

33:55 Adam How much are you doing it?

33:57 Caller I just tried it once on Friday.

33:58 Drew No, that's all right. Just lay off for a while.

34:01 Caller All right.

34:03 Drew Just don't get going with it. I was thinking about eating today because I've been on an eating jag for the last two weeks. It got so bad, I thought, I'm just going to stop eating, eat all day. Didn't want to eat all day, but if it put one thing in my mouth, pow, off again, off to the races again.

34:19 Adam Game on.

34:20 Drew That's the way addiction works. It really is. You got to be abstinent or once you're triggering those reward mechanisms, it's just game on.

34:27 Adam All right. Let's talk to Reed. Reed?

34:31 Yeah.

34:31 Adam You're 15.

34:32 Caller Yeah. Hey. Well, first off, I just want to say Adam and Drew, I'm a big fan.

34:39 Adam Thanks.

34:39 Caller Yeah. Well, my question-

34:42 Drew Let me just say, Reed, you're not alone being 14, 15 and being Adam's fan. We went to Pat O'Brien's Christmas party last night, and Adam and Jimmy did not talk to the adults. They talked to his teenage son and their friends.

34:55 Adam Always the time for the kids.

34:56 Drew And they talked about farting for about three hours.

34:59 Adam Yeah.

35:00 Drew And sent Pat O'Brien's son and his buddies around with a fart machine to blast it off in Pat's older friend's face.

35:08 Adam You know what's funny? After about three hours of fart talk with the 14-year-olds, they were like, okay, enough already. Jimmy's like, I'm not done.

35:15 But throughout his life, a man beloved by the children.

35:18 Drew He wanted to talk about fart in a can.

35:20 Adam All right, Reed, go ahead.

35:22 Caller All right. Well, mainly I'm calling just because at school, me and my friends were kind of being followed around by this retarded guy, like literally retarded. He kind of hits on one of our friends. We've talked to the counselor about it, and they said they'd do something, but he still kind of follows us around.

35:44 Drew Because of this one girl he's attracted to?

35:46 Caller Yeah, he originally saw her when she was buying pizza from the student store or something.

35:51 Drew And he doesn't really respond to the usual cues and things?

35:54 Caller No, definitely not.

35:55 Drew Any way you can just sort of befriend him and sort of get him, take care of him?

35:59 Caller Well, we try. We try to just be friendly, you know, and see if he'll just respond and be friendly. But he kind of, he just acts out like cartoons and stuff. Like, I don't know about cartoons, but he's kind of in his own world sometimes, but sometimes just comes back.

36:19 Adam So you feel sorry for the guy?

36:23 Caller Yeah, I kind of do, but...

36:24 Drew Are you guys not direct with him? Can you give him firm direction?

36:28 Caller No, you can't. Like sometimes his counselors try to come get him away from us, but they don't really...

36:34 Drew All right. I think if you've really tried everything, been reasonable, even tried to take care of him, befriend him, I think it is the responsibility of the people who are supposed to be taking care of him to help you out on this. I think you've got to insist. Can your parents help you out with this, my chance? Not that it's an awful thing, but I think the people that are in charge of this kid, it's his best interest that he not get hurt. I mean, if you guys get frustrated, you could be sort of awful to him.

36:58 Adam Reed, I have a more important question. Yeah. Have they figured out how to get the pizza to be in the pizza slice shape yet at school or is it still got to be shaped like a football goddamn field? They come in those long squares, oblong.

37:15 Caller No, we get a takeout. They get a bunch of dominoes.

37:20 Adam You son of a bitch. Drew, I'm just completely convinced we were born in the wrong period.

37:29 Drew Think about it. The school food, pathetic.

37:33 Adam The pizza wasn't even in pizza shape. It wasn't even in the shape of a pizza.

37:39 Drew Cars, clothing, architecture.

37:40 Caller Traumatized forever by that.

37:41 Adam Everything sucked.

37:42 Drew Everything sucked for a good 15 years. Think about that.

37:44 Adam What the hell is it at school? You couldn't even get a goddamn burger.

37:48 Drew It would have been better.

37:48 Adam The burgers were like green and boiled and stuff. Yeah. Oh my God. All right. Where the hell are we? You got some. You can't even make pizza in a pizza shape. I mean, listen, McDonald's puts out a decent burger for 39 cents. You guys can't do that. Sorry about the burger. You would have been better off eating platter. Believe me, there was no beef in these burgers whatsoever.

38:14 Caller Burger King is actually making veggie burgers now.

38:16 Adam Oh, good. I like McDonald's getting a little crazy with their burritos and churros and stuff. Have you seen this? Ooh. Regal. I got to get them to refocus over there. Listen, I caught the McRib sandwich. Let's focus on the burgers here, folks. Enrique?

38:35 Hey, what's up, Mayonnaise?

38:36 Adam Hey, you're 19.

38:37 Caller Hey, what's up, Drew?

38:38 Caller What's my May May Mayonnaise?

38:40 Drew Enrique?

38:41 Caller Yeah, I just want to know that, I don't know, man, I've been having all these like weird dreams, not weird dreams, but like dreams with my ex-girlfriend.

38:49 Drew How long did you break up?

38:50 Caller Like around like half a year.

38:53 Drew Six months ago. What are the dreams involved?

38:55 Caller Just like us going out. All right.

38:58 Drew Do you want to call her up and go out there again?

39:00 Caller I mean, I do, but you said that I'm developing stocking things. I don't know. I got called a long time ago.

39:10 Adam Was this in his dream or he told you that? Drew told you this?

39:14 Caller No. I called and I remember the question. I was like, her parents brainwashed her and stuff. Do you remember that?

39:22 Adam I do remember this one, yeah.

39:24 Drew We turned it back on you, if I recall right, to look at yourself.

39:28 Adam Like we always do.

39:29 Drew Yeah. You were getting real carried away with things.

39:33 Adam Yeah. So wait a minute. How long have you been broken up? Two months?

39:36 Caller No. Oh, my God. Six months. Five months, six months, yeah.

39:39 Adam Six months. How long did you go out for?

39:41 Caller Like a year and a half.

39:43 Adam Okay. She's not interested in you anymore?

39:46 Caller Yeah. I remember we-

39:47 Adam Yeah. Okay. Let it go.

39:50 Drew It's natural enough you'd have dreams about her. Maybe forever you may have occasionally have dreams about her, but that's it.

39:54 Adam No. Not forever. You only dream about the last one, the last one, the last one. You rarely hop back three.

40:01 Yeah.

40:02 Adam Think about that. You guys ever dream about anybody who was before the last one? Do you know what I'm saying?

40:12 Yeah.

40:13 Adam Your mind won't even let you go back that far. It's not even believable enough. You don't have those dreams, do you? Why don't you have those dreams?

40:22 Caller You're looking at me? I have no idea.

40:24 Adam You never have those dreams?

40:25 Caller I've never had dreams about any of the past ones.

40:28 Adam Like if you were with Ron Jeremy and you were with Peter North before, you wouldn't dream about Peter North. You dream about Ron Jeremy, right?

40:36 Caller Okay.

40:37 You don't like Ron Jeremy?

40:38 Adam No.

40:38 Caller I dream of the future.

40:40 Drew Especially if Ron Jeremy is part of the past.

40:41 Caller What else is out there? I'm always looking forward.

40:47 Adam How come you don't have it? Do you have dreams where you're 18 or 10 years old? Do you have dreams where you're a kid?

40:52 Drew Yeah. You do? Yeah.

40:54 Adam I've got to get into that.

40:55 Drew Occasionally, yeah. Occasionally.

40:57 Adam You don't have a dream where you're in high school and you've got a girlfriend from high school, do you?

41:00 Drew Occasionally, yeah.

41:01 Adam Your girlfriend from high school?

41:03 Drew I can't. It just sounds familiar to me. Maybe, I don't know.

41:06 Adam All right.

41:07 Drew I don't dream about it. It's like medical school and things were in fast motion. You know, things are really going very, very fast. We don't dream about any of that.

41:15 Adam Serenity is our guest tonight. She is here talking about leather and leather and Vegas Novelty.

41:25 Caller Las Vegas Novelties.

41:27 Adam Las Vegas Novelties, which is her company, which she puts out a high-grade adult product.

41:32 Caller Absolutely.

41:33 Adam Give that, give that.

41:35 Caller Our toys feel better. And isn't that the whole point?

41:39 Adam Give your web address.

41:40 Caller lasvegasnovelties.com. And from there you can find all the information about all our contract girls, our different products, and where to find them to buy online or around the country.

41:51 Adam All right. We'll take a little break, and we'll be right back.

41:55 Caller Hello? This is Loveline. Call 1-800-LOVE-191. Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back.

42:33 Hello, this is Ron Jeremy. And when I'm not hiding the bacon in some hot and sweaty porno set, I'm listening to Love Lines with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

42:43 Adam There he is. Yes, everybody. Serenity is our guest tonight. She is a spokesperson for PETA. Oh, those PETA nuts. Everyone hates PETA. No, they don't. Yeah, they do. No. They do. There's like a fringe, screwed up element that likes PETA and then everyone else. You know why? I'll tell you why. I'll tell you. It's the same with all these groups. It's the same with the abstinent groups. It's the same with all these groups. They start off with a notion, like a decent idea that the masses can get behind. Like they go, they treat these animals in a cruel and inhumane way, and people go, yeah, I don't like that. Then later on, they start spazzing out because there's some cockroach. It's in some industrial park, so they can't break ground on it. And then everyone goes, oh, I see, nut job, next. And then you write them off. They get themselves written off. All these groups get themselves written off because they pull some extreme weird angle on something, which is probably what they want to do in the first place.

43:43 Drew Remember when you were doing commentary for CBS on a cockroach on a treadmill?

43:47 Adam Remember that? Yeah, it was not a cockroach.

43:51 It was a beetle or something.

43:53 Adam Dung beetle or a Hercules beetle.

43:55 Caller The fact of the matter is they have to make a lot of noise in order for people to hear. Sometimes things are done unconventionally.

44:03 Drew That's what the rifle organization too.

44:05 Adam NRA does this.

44:06 Drew That's their mistake too.

44:07 Caller I like them too.

44:08 Drew No, but I mean it's a mistake.

44:10 Caller I just don't like them for hunting.

44:12 Drew You step away from reality and it's like, hey, wait a minute, wait a minute. NRA's got a point of view, the PD's got a point of view, the Right to Life groups have very, these are good, rational points of view that they take to these extremes.

44:26 Adam They all have a good point and then they get going. And then you go, oh, I see you're nuts.

44:33 Caller Well, I mean, sometimes they just, they have to do things in order for it to be a mistake.

44:37 Adam Why stand up and proclaim that you're insane in order to get attention?

44:41 Drew That's what they say they have to do, but if they did less of that, they'd get more done. I really believe that.

44:46 Caller Well, I don't know. I don't know about that. Oh, absolutely.

44:48 Adam Look, people know who they are, but we know who Manson is too.

44:53 Caller Well, no, but that's not a very good point.

44:55 Adam No, it's a great point. Everyone knows who PETA is. They now hate them.

44:58 Caller Well, they know who PETA is because they've done things to get your attention.

45:02 Adam Yes, we know who they are. We know we don't like them. See, that's the point. That's where they screw up. No, I don't like PETA. I don't. Nobody I know likes PETA. Nobody in the mainstream likes PETA. No commentators, no radio people, no TV people, nobody likes PETA. A handful of screwed up actors.

45:23 Caller Oh, come on. Alicia Silverstone. She's doing the pleather campaign.

45:25 Adam People who had bad childhoods like PETA because they identify with the animals. But no mainstream people like PETA. I mean, that's the reality of it. That's the reality of it. People don't like PETA. And they got themselves.

45:37 Caller Amaril Anderson.

45:38 Adam You said, well, she's a nut job. All nuts. Here's my point. Here's my, please, Bill Maher. Well, he likes animals more than he likes people.

45:49 Caller All righty then.

45:49 Adam He's got 40 Asian hookers chained to his radiator in the basement of his house, so he's not feeding right now, but he's worried about the cows.

45:56 Caller Apparently, that was the wrong name to bring up.

45:57 Drew No, no, wait a minute.

45:58 Adam I like Bill Maher.

45:59 Drew We like him a lot.

46:00 Adam But he does like animals more. I would say he likes animals more than he likes people.

46:04 Drew His staff does. His staff is very into the animal thing.

46:07 Adam Bill, I think, likes animals more than he likes English-speaking people, too. But listen, here's all I'm saying. Your point is, is that PETA has to take extreme points of view on things in order to get attention. I didn't say they have to. I said they do in order to get the media attention, I think. I'm saying that the attention that they get is negative attention. And that's not better.

46:31 Drew For instance, you came in and you had a reasonable point of view. You made your case about the pleather. It looked good. Fine. Just get pleather. Absolutely. Stop there.

46:39 Caller That's it. I'm not saying it can't be done that way. I'm not saying that you have to run out and do silly things all the time to get attention for things. But I'm just saying that sometimes you kind of got to make the wheel squeak a little bit.

46:54 Adam Yeah. But I would argue that it's no different than a serial killer getting his name out there.

47:00 Caller I think that's a little extreme.

47:01 Adam We know his name.

47:02 Caller I think that's an extreme example.

47:03 Adam No. Everyone, I know I hate PETA because of their horrible stances on a few things. Their overall message is fine. But same with you, Drew, and same with the NRA, quite honestly.

47:14 Drew Yeah, same with the NRA.

47:16 Adam They're all about freedom and rights and Americanism. And then they don't want to outlaw hollow tip armor piercing cop killing bullets. And so you go, screw them, you're nuts. And this is the same. This is what PETA does.

47:29 Caller But you know why. I mean, you know why groups have to do that. It's because if you start chipping away at the right.

47:36 Adam That's what they say. It's true. It is true. Give me an example. Give me an example of how that happened. Oh, actually, I'll give you an example. You're right. You're right. I'll give you an example. Smokers. Here's what happened. Oh, yeah. You know, 20 years ago, they said, let's not let people smoke on airplanes. And people went, all right, that sounds sensible. And then they went, let's not let them smoke in the airport. And they went, okay. And then they went, well, let's not let them smoke in restaurants. And everyone went, all right.

48:03 Drew But even then, it's just like, all right.

48:07 Adam Now you got to be 20 feet away from the curb and stuff to smoke. And now there's eight bucks surcharge on each tax.

48:13 Caller And it happens with freedom of speech too.

48:15 Adam Now it never does.

48:16 Caller Oh, yes, it does. That's how-

48:18 Adam Tell us how.

48:19 Caller Because what they do is they get the small convictions. They do the small little things. And then from there, they use that to go into court for the big stuff.

48:26 Adam All right, well, give us, give us an example. Give us an example.

48:30 Caller An example.

48:32 Adam I'm going to let you think about that. And I'm going to say one thing.

48:35 Drew What?

48:35 Adam This whole slippery slope thing always drives me in true nuts.

48:39 Drew What you're talking about, you're going down a slippery slope into-

48:42 Caller Well, I'm just saying, I'm just saying why.

48:44 Adam You make hollow tip bullets. You outlaw those. And the next thing you know is-

48:48 Caller I'm not saying that hollow tip bullets, you know-

48:50 Adam You can't have steak knives in your own house.

48:52 Caller I mean, that's what they do. They just start chipping away at the right.

48:55 Adam That's what they want you to think goes on, but it doesn't.

48:57 Caller That's what happened. Ask an new lawyer.

48:59 Adam Give us an example.

49:00 Caller Because I'm not a lawyer, I don't have these things memorized on the top of my head.

49:04 Adam But you know there's the chip away, but you don't have one example of the chip away.

49:08 Drew I think a lot of that happened probably in the 70s.

49:11 Caller It still happens. It still happens.

49:13 Drew Well, he gave you an example.

49:14 Adam Where?

49:14 Caller What?

49:15 Adam You give us one. If you can't name one, you can't say it.

49:18 Caller Texas. I can't give you an exact location date. But Texas, what they do is that they go to like stores that carry adult products, and they'll cite them for a particular thing, one small particular thing. Then they'll find them. Then what they do is in a year they come back, and now they have enough on the books that they can actually close the whole store down.

49:42 Drew If they have little things.

49:43 Caller Right. Then what they do with that is now they're taking the whole idea of zoning to the courts. They're saying, well, see, this community found that this was not of the standards of the community, and so thus we believe that all of Dallas is not of the standards for that community.

50:03 Adam The NRA is backing the guys who are making the raids, believe me.

50:06 Caller And then the state takes that.

50:08 Adam They're not on your side, the NRA. They're on the side of the guys who are carrying the badge and the gun who are going in there, shutting the place down.

50:14 Caller I'm not using like NRAs.

50:16 Adam No, I know.

50:17 Caller I'm just saying that this is the whole theory behind some of the craziness that they do do, is that you want to stop the chipping away. And even though they know that they're not going to necessarily win, they're just trying to build up a wall.

50:27 Drew You know what though, here's what I think is where that gets a little bit crazy, is that I don't think that people, the community, societies are going to chip away at things that are consistent with conventional wisdom and agreement.

50:40 Caller Well, but we're not talking about the people.

50:42 Drew But you're talking about adult films and this and this.

50:46 Caller Because that's something I'm familiar with.

50:47 Drew I understand, and people may have some discomfort with that being in their community. There may be difficulty reaching consensus about should there should have. But I think consensus would be none of the armor-piercing bullets, no problem. No means to chip away.

50:57 Caller It's the same idea, though.

50:59 Drew But I think that where the NRI was afraid they're going to go past is where the community doesn't want to go past. They don't want to get rid of all guns, the whole community. They want some more rational kind of dealing with guns.

51:10 Adam That's the point. It won't go past what everybody wants, and we think it will, and that's ludicrous.

51:15 Caller But I mean, it depends on what you think everybody wants.

51:18 Adam Well, no, that's not the point.

51:19 Caller Like, for instance, I don't... That's untrue.

51:21 Adam You can figure out what everybody wants easily.

51:22 Caller I personally don't think that I should have to register my gun. That's my personal thought. A lot of people disagree with me. A lot of people in my community disagree with me.

51:30 Drew You personally don't want to...

51:31 Caller But I think that I should have a right to be able to have a gun.

51:34 Drew Should everybody? I understand you should.

51:37 Caller I understand I should. Well, I mean, you know, ultimately it's going to happen. But regardless of what I think, they're going to end up with them anyways.

51:43 Adam All right. And you don't want to register your gun because you don't want them coming after you and taking away your gun?

51:48 Caller I just don't think it's anybody's business how many guns I own.

51:51 Adam All right. But they know how many cars you own.

51:54 Caller How many guns do I own?

51:55 Caller A few.

51:57 Adam All right.

51:57 Drew Are you from Texas?

51:58 Caller Las Vegas.

51:59 Adam All right. Let's take a break. And don't get me going on this Kevorkian. He's a hero of mine.

52:05 Caller All right.

52:06 Caller I like him too.

52:07 Adam We'll be right back.

52:08 Caller Here it is.

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52:11 Caller Tons of lame people and no decent prospects.

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52:21 Caller Loveline will be right back. So get your problems ready. Ready.

53:03 Adam It's the Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew over there. Serenity is our guest tonight. You can get in touch with her. Give the website out for these high-quality adult toys.

53:17 Caller You can find me at lasvegasnovelties.com.

53:20 Adam And this is solid stuff. We've inspected quite a few of them. Yeah, it's all-

53:26 Caller The pulsator.

53:27 Adam Very user-friendly. This one. Yeah, that one right there. This, this is simple yet diabolical. This you put around your penis like a C ring, and it has a part that protrudes from the top, and it vibrates and you give the woman a little clitoral stimulation.

53:46 Caller Touch activated, no on and off switch.

53:49 Adam Yeah.

53:50 Caller And it comes in pink and purple.

53:52 Adam Yeah. Why the pink and the purple though? I mean, why has it got to look like a clown throw up on your penis?

53:58 Caller No. See, the thing is though, is primarily it's going to affect the woman more than the man.

54:04 Adam Right.

54:04 Caller So chances are the woman is going to go into the store to buy it for her man. I mean, we hope that men will think to go and buy it for the woman, but chances are. And so we want to make colors that were appealing for the woman. Which are pink and purple, as opposed to your standard black.

54:20 Adam Yeah. Black is always a little scary.

54:23 Caller Yeah. I don't really like it for the toys, you know, for the bedroom.

54:26 Adam Yeah.

54:27 Caller It kind of freaks me out.

54:28 Adam It always has that dungeon-y kind of...

54:31 Caller Exactly.

54:33 Adam S&M kind of vibe to it.

54:36 Caller Yeah. I like them pretty to look at, you know.

54:38 Adam Yeah.

54:39 Caller That's why we have the jellies in like pink and green and purple and clear.

54:43 Adam That's good. Give this to your kids, Drew. They will know what it is. I'm telling you, I played with a tampon applicator I got out of my trash can when I was a kid for months, months.

54:55 Drew Telescope.

54:55 Adam Thought it was a telescope, thought it was a slide whistle.

54:58 Caller You got out of the waste can.

54:59 Caller Oh my gosh. Oh yeah.

55:02 Adam Oh my. We used to go trash picking. Wednesday night, trash night. Dr. David.

55:07 Caller That almost makes me ill.

55:08 Adam We just hit the neighborhood. There was a lot of good stuff out there.

55:11 Caller I guess so.

55:12 Adam Chris.

55:13 Caller Yes.

55:15 Adam Yeah. One man's trash is Corolla's gold. That's what the family used to say.

55:19 Drew What's up, Chris?

55:21 Caller Can I start out by kissing Adam's ass a little bit?

55:24 Adam Please. Hurry.

55:25 Caller Yeah. I'd like to, I say this with all sincerity. A very high degree of common sense is in and of itself giftedness and genius. And my friend, you have that.

55:37 Caller I truly appreciate it.

55:38 Adam Thank you, Chris.

55:40 Caller And my question for Dr. Drew is, has there ever been any clinical studies done on Ibogaine for heroin addiction?

55:47 Drew You know, I've seen Ibogaine come up in a few different contexts. I have, I am not familiar with any studies on it for heroin. I do, I can tell you though, that the pharmacologic treatment of heroin, the choices are really quite limited. You've got a high degree of structure, a 12 step. There are a couple of different ways you can detox. And believe me, the detox is pretty easy. Not as bad as you think it's going to be. It's not pleasant, but it's okay.

56:14 Caller I'm not addicted to heroin.

56:15 Drew All right. But one can either be on methadone, which is called the harm avoidant route, which is you take methadone the rest of your life, or you go ahead and get off the drug and you spend the month that it takes focusing on your treatment and getting sober and really getting remission of this disease. But there are no really significant pharmacologic interventions yet.

56:32 Adam All right there, Chris. Good times, but once in a while I decide just to hang back and think to myself, well, Drew will explain what ibogang is because we've never brought it up on the show before.

56:44 Drew I don't know what it is. I've seen it come across.

56:46 Adam Nobody knows what it is, but no, no such luck.

56:49 Drew If I knew what it was, I'd tell you.

56:50 Adam Well, you never heard of it? I've heard of it.

56:54 Drew I'll look it up on the web if you want me to.

56:56 Adam I never heard of it either. All right. Well, you're off the hook then if you've never heard of it.

56:59 Drew No, I've heard of it. I've just never seen it for heroin addiction. I've never really paid attention to what it is.

57:04 Adam Is it an herb? Is it a drug? It's a toxin, I think. Is it something that's manufactured by a pharmaceutical company?

57:11 Drew I believe so. I think they use it like in Africa and other undeveloped countries a little bit. I don't think it's an herb though.

57:20 Adam Well, if they use it in Africa, that's bad times. Claire?

57:23 Caller Yeah.

57:23 Adam You're 17?

57:25 Caller Yeah. What's up? Okay. It's kind of weird. I have a boyfriend who lives in New York and I want to tell my parents that I want to go out to see him.

57:34 Drew You live in Seattle?

57:35 Caller Yeah.

57:35 Drew He lives in New York?

57:36 Caller Yeah.

57:37 Drew How did you meet him?

57:39 Caller Through my friend. I know what it sounds like. Yeah. She knows him through like-

57:43 Adam Hold on one second. I don't know what's popped in my head, but is there any part of Africa that's not completely falling apart? I mean, whether it's South Africa or Northern Africa?

57:52 Drew Egypt's okay.

57:54 Adam Yeah. They even they're kind of- not exactly. You wouldn't want to spend a whole week there, would you?

57:59 Drew There's a lot of places that are in trouble in Africa.

58:01 Adam A lot. I mean, everyone thinks of Africa is, you know, Zimbabwe, but they forget that Northern Africa is where all these heinous countries are from, right? Or located.

58:13 Drew Which one?

58:14 Adam Yeah. I mean, is there one good part of that? I mean, it's a huge continent.

58:20 Is Zimbabwe okay?

58:24 Caller I don't know if I'd go over there.

58:25 Adam What do we got to do over there? Do we just got to take a steamroller to that whole place? Like, what's going on over there? We got, you got, Southern Africa is falling apart, and they got AIDS and all sorts of trouble and raping and everything going on over there. And then you go to Northern Africa, and it's a bunch of guys wanting to burning American flags. Like, what's going on with that Africa? Do you know what I'm saying? What's wrong? They got bad water supply or something?

58:47 Drew It's developing.

58:48 Adam Developing into what? It was better 20 years ago. Thank you.

58:52 Drew I don't know that.

58:52 Adam Oh, yeah. What do you mean? What do you mean? Of course it was. Claire?

58:57 Drew It depends on whether you're the British elite or whether you're the... Indigenous people. Yeah, indigenous people.

59:03 Adam Well, maybe Southern Africa. Okay. Well, no, I think Southern Africa was probably better back when, too. Claire? Yeah. All right. I'm sorry. What about Seattle?

59:11 Drew And New York? She has a boyfriend in New York and she's in Seattle. And she was going to tell us how she met him.

59:16 Caller Yeah, that's the weird thing. I haven't.

59:19 Drew Okay. That's not a weird thing then. That's a bad thing.

59:22 Adam She hasn't met him?

59:23 Caller I know. No. The situation is he's friends with one of my friends.

59:27 Drew Yeah, I understand. But he's not your boyfriend. I understand you want to have a relationship with him. You want to meet him. You probably have some sort of phone or internet relationship with him.

59:34 Caller No, it's not internet at all. That's the thing.

59:36 Drew It's phone.

59:37 Caller Yeah.

59:37 Drew Okay. He's still not your boyfriend. He's not your boyfriend.

59:39 Adam You've never seen him in person?

59:41 Caller No.

59:42 Adam You know what he looks like?

59:43 Caller Yeah.

59:44 Drew How old is he?

59:45 Caller He's 18.

59:48 Adam How old is she? 17? What's up with the Seattle boys?

59:53 Caller There isn't any. It's so sad.

59:55 Adam No. What's up?

59:57 Drew Listen, this guy isn't any either. He's a fantasy constructed.

1:00:01 Caller But he's not. He's real.

1:00:04 Drew What's different about him?

1:00:06 Caller He's just like the most amazing person I've ever met.

1:00:08 Adam Yeah.

1:00:09 Drew Yeah.

1:00:09 Adam Everyone's great.

1:00:10 Drew Except you never met him.

1:00:11 Adam You actually see him. When you see him naked, then it's always upsetting.

1:00:14 Drew What is so amazing about him?

1:00:16 Caller The way that it like-

1:00:18 Drew Most amazing person I've never met.

1:00:19 Adam Yeah.

1:00:19 Drew Yeah.

1:00:21 Caller It's like just the way that he treats me and the way that like, he's so understanding. He knows me better than anyone else does because there's this level of like no judgment between us and stuff.

1:00:32 Adam Sure.

1:00:33 Drew Claire, you sat on the phone for hours and spilled your guts.

1:00:35 Adam I don't judge you either. I don't care. I never see you. It is so much easier that barely seeing each other or never seeing each other.

1:00:46 Drew It's not a relationship.

1:00:47 Caller It's so much more exciting too.

1:00:49 Adam It really is. You know what it is?

1:00:51 Drew It's anything you want it to be is what it is.

1:00:53 Caller Exactly. There's no letdowns.

1:00:54 Adam Let me tell you something. Here's the reality. People, the amazing amount of spackle you have in your mind to fill things in emotionally is absolutely amazing.

1:01:06 Drew It's huge.

1:01:07 Adam You ever do this? You ever talk to someone about something you're thinking about buying over the phone whether it be a house or a car, just something, and they go, oh, the car's new tires, new stereo, put a fresh coat of paint on it, and you're picturing something, and you show up, and you realize the person wasn't lying. It does have new tires and a new coat of paint, but the headliner's ripped up, and the thing still doesn't look. It's never as good as what's in your mind when you show up.

1:01:37 Drew It's colored by their affect.

1:01:38 Adam And your mind does the rest. It fills in.

1:01:42 Drew And your wish. It's their affect and your wish.

1:01:44 Adam Yes.

1:01:45 Drew It's a pretty potent combination.

1:01:46 Adam Right.

1:01:47 Drew And Claire's got a lot of wish going into this one, and who knows what the hell the reality is.

1:01:50 Adam But when can you see him, Claire?

1:01:54 Caller I'm going out in April, but I'm going to go out before then.

1:01:57 Drew And your parents know you're going to meet him?

1:01:58 Adam Hold on. You're going in April, but you're going to go before then?

1:02:02 Caller I want to.

1:02:03 Adam Oh, you want to? We'd suggest you don't. How are you going to do it before then? I mean, how are you going to do it in April?

1:02:11 Caller I'm going out there. My parents are sitting out there for my birthday with some of my friends.

1:02:15 Caller Oh.

1:02:16 Caller Yeah.

1:02:17 Adam Drew, you want to talk to this guy? What the hell do we need to talk to him for? He's living in the same...

1:02:22 Drew Because you could maybe bring a little reality to bear.

1:02:24 Adam No. I don't know. Is it that bad? Does he love you? Does he say he loves you?

1:02:29 Caller Yeah.

1:02:30 Caller How can he?

1:02:32 Adam Oh, my God.

1:02:33 Drew What does he do right now? Is he going to school?

1:02:35 Caller Yeah.

1:02:36 Drew Where is he in school?

1:02:38 Caller In upstate New York.

1:02:39 Drew Where?

1:02:40 Caller In Oswego.

1:02:41 Adam Oh, Oswego.

1:02:43 Caller No, it's a SUNY park.

1:02:44 Drew I know it is.

1:02:45 Adam No, I know Oswego. Listen, we've been there. Cousins Sal went to Oswego. That's a bad school. No, it's beautiful country, but Jesus, that isn't even in New York. That's serious upstate New York.

1:02:56 Drew That's up near... What's the one that sounds like a Marx Brothers country?

1:03:00 Adam Yeah. Oh, Jesus. The hell did we do up there?

1:03:04 Drew Are we in Oswego?

1:03:06 Adam We drove to get to where we went.

1:03:09 You go through or pass or near Oswego.

1:03:11 Adam Ithaca, yeah. You don't go through Oswego, but it's near there. But Jesus. Even if you got to New York, you wouldn't be near the guy. I mean, you got to New York City. Where are you going to go? Are you going to meet him in the city? Yeah. All right. Well, listen. Okay. Here's what I want to say. So she's having a fantasy. So she's occupied. So she's not out getting asked.

1:03:33 Drew Oh, that's fine. I'm not no problem with that.

1:03:35 Adam Who cares?

1:03:36 Drew I don't think she should be getting on a plan to go to New York.

1:03:37 Caller No. Absolutely not. Especially not like meet up one-on-one with some stranger.

1:03:42 Adam Why? Well, okay. But let me play devil's advocate here. They talk for five months on the phone.

1:03:48 Caller Yeah.

1:03:49 Adam Is that so much better than you meeting someone at a frat mixer and taking them out?

1:03:54 Caller Well, because when you meet someone in person, one, you can read their body language, two, you know what they're all about.

1:03:59 You're also spending real time with them too.

1:04:00 Adam You don't know what they're all about. You just know whether you're hot for them or not.

1:04:04 Caller I mean, I don't know. I just think you can disguise so much on a telephone and not necessarily maliciously either.

1:04:11 Adam Well, I would agree you could disguise quite a bit through e-mails and that kind of stuff. But I think if you talk to someone for several thousand hours, you could get a decent vibe.

1:04:23 Caller Well, I mean, you might have an idea about what the person is about.

1:04:26 Adam Well, hold on a second. If you're going to give a rap on the phone, you can give the same rap in person.

1:04:32 Caller I think body language just does make a huge difference.

1:04:35 Drew Yeah, I think appearance does make a huge difference.

1:04:37 Adam What kind of body language does 19-year-old guys have?

1:04:41 Drew But more than that, it's being together in reality. You know, the stressors of eating and drinking and stuff.

1:04:46 Adam That I agree with.

1:04:47 Caller Well, come on. I mean, you're sitting at a table having dinner with someone, you're going on, you know, talking about this story, la, la, la, la, la, and all of a sudden, like, he's, like, looking around and stuff, which you wouldn't see on the telephone. And you would think that the silence means that he's listening to you.

1:05:01 Adam Yeah, but if he's going to talk to you for...

1:05:03 Caller But really, he's, like, flipping through the magazine.

1:05:04 Adam All right, but, okay, buddy, why is he calling her back and talking for three hours the next night if he's not in town?

1:05:09 Caller Oh, George, he's interesting.

1:05:10 Drew Right, he's...

1:05:11 Adam Well, wait, which is it?

1:05:13 Drew He's greasing the wheel. He's greasing the wheel.

1:05:14 Adam Well, I mean, it doesn't matter. If he's bored...

1:05:17 Caller One, he's bored, or, you know, maybe there's nobody there to really... Maybe he's done everything there is to do in wherever that place was.

1:05:25 Caller No, no, hold on a second, you two.

1:05:27 Adam First off, if he's... In real life, nobody goes la, la, la, la, la and looks around.

1:05:32 Caller Well, you know, I mean, if somebody's sitting there and telling you this, like, really long story that just goes in every which direction.

1:05:40 Adam When you're on the phone, you might watch the TV.

1:05:42 Caller You're on the phone, you pop open the catalog, yeah, you watch television.

1:05:45 Adam Absolutely, but you would do that anyway.

1:05:49 Caller You wouldn't do that if you were sitting across the table from someone.

1:05:52 Adam I know, but then as soon as you got home and they called you, you do that.

1:05:54 Caller If you were really interested.

1:05:56 Adam But look, the guy's on the phone with her for three hours, that's interested.

1:06:00 Drew But the point is...

1:06:01 Adam He's not getting sex. I would argue that if he was at the table, he'd act interested so he could get in your pants later on that night.

1:06:08 Caller Well, I have no idea why he's doing it other than she's just interesting. He's bored. I don't know.

1:06:14 Adam Well, look, if he's bored, he's... I'm sure he's sincere, just misguided.

1:06:20 Caller He might be a nice person. I don't know. I just think it's a bad idea for her to travel out by herself, meet up with him one on one in a strange city with a strange person.

1:06:30 Drew She's in high school. Just by virtue of fact, he's in college. She's in high school. It's not a good situation.

1:06:34 Adam You're going out there alone?

1:06:36 Caller No. I used to live out there, so I have lots of family and friends out there.

1:06:39 Drew Where would you meet this guy?

1:06:41 Caller I'd probably just meet him in the city or I'd probably stay with my cousin and meet him there.

1:06:45 Drew In Manhattan?

1:06:46 Caller Yeah.

1:06:47 Adam All right. Meet him at Central Park about 3 a.m. But you'll see him in April. All right. Go out there, stay with your friends.

1:06:54 Drew Start talking to your parents.

1:06:55 Adam Meet the guy at a Starbucks.

1:06:57 Drew About what you're doing here. Give them a chance to participate a little bit. Tell them, like, I mean, Tell them you've gotten involved with this guy on the phone, and you're really into him, and you want to get to know him a little more.

1:07:08 Adam You got any other guys that are interested in you?

1:07:11 Caller Yeah, but there's nothing that I want to pursue.

1:07:15 Adam All right. Is there anything wrong with you?

1:07:17 Caller No.

1:07:18 Caller All right.

1:07:20 Adam I give it my half blessing. I say it keeps them out of trouble. Drew, seriously, you have a daughter. It'd be the best day of your life if she had some sort of long-distance fancy relationship with some guy and never get his grubby, filthy paws on her.

1:07:33 Drew Four years, I let her go out there. Yeah. That's the point. I let her go out in two months.

1:07:38 Adam Well, she's not going out till April. It'll be over by then. They'll talk thousands of hours.

1:07:44 Caller I don't know.

1:07:44 Adam Your idea of guys rolling their eyes in person and stuff like that.

1:07:48 Caller Well, I'm just saying that he can't disguise it.

1:07:51 Drew She's making a valid point, which is that her fantasy fills in where his reality may not be able to deliver. In other words, her fantasy is he is enraptured with her when, in fact, he may be masturbating or reading a book or unhappiness.

1:08:05 Adam He's not going to squawk for hours on end.

1:08:07 Drew No, he's into it. Don't get me wrong.

1:08:10 Adam This is no tale, no contact. When guys do this, they're into it or desperate or something. He may be weird and clingy.

1:08:18 Drew Doesn't that scare you a little bit?

1:08:21 Adam This is a wasp.

1:08:22 Drew All right. Landon, 15. Landon.

1:08:26 Caller Oh, hey, Adam and Drew. What's up?

1:08:29 Adam Say hi to Serenity too.

1:08:31 Caller Hi, Serenity. Hello.

1:08:33 Drew I'm trying to remember the name of that upstate New York school I went to by myself. It's literally sounds like it's a Marx Brothers kingdom.

1:08:40 Caller All right. Well, first, I'd just like to say that you guys helped me a lot about three months ago when I had a question and I called up. I just want to say thanks for that.

1:08:49 Drew What was the question then?

1:08:50 Adam I don't know. Just thanks.

1:08:52 Drew What's going on now?

1:08:54 Caller All right. Well, the question now is, I'm about to approach my first date ever, and I'm a kind of nervous guy and everything. I just was wondering what would be the best place to go and what to do and everything.

1:09:05 Drew You don't drive. How old is she?

1:09:07 Caller She is the same age as me.

1:09:09 Drew Fifteen. All right. So this is a serenity question, really. What should a guy 15-year-old do with a 15-year-old girl?

1:09:15 Caller First date.

1:09:16 Drew Not just their first date, his first date ever.

1:09:19 Adam Well, but their first date.

1:09:20 Drew So he doesn't want to overdo.

1:09:22 Caller Yeah. And you want to do something that's interesting to you and her. I don't know what you like to do at 15. Maybe go to the mall. Maybe a movie. A movie might be a little weird though, where you're like sitting in a dark place with somebody for two hours that you are on a first date with. It might be okay. I don't know.

1:09:39 Adam It takes the pressure off with the conversation.

1:09:41 Caller The conversation. Yeah, or some kind of activity that you can actually do something.

1:09:47 Drew That's a good idea.

1:09:48 Caller You know?

1:09:48 Adam Is she into bondage or anything?

1:09:51 Drew Flying water airplanes?

1:09:53 Adam That will hook a woman.

1:09:55 Caller Well, I don't know. I probably would like that.

1:09:59 Drew Oh, Adam.

1:10:00 Caller Here you go.

1:10:02 Adam Hey, Landon. So let's see. You have no transportation, right?

1:10:09 Drew Do you know what this is?

1:10:10 Adam Well, just shut up, Drew.

1:10:11 Drew Buy a school.

1:10:11 Adam What do you got? Are you going to have your parents drive here or something?

1:10:15 Caller Yeah, probably.

1:10:16 Adam So they're going to drop you off somewhere?

1:10:19 Caller Yeah. We'll probably go to a movie.

1:10:21 Adam All right. Look, here's the deal. I think the movie is actually good at 15 because 15-year-old guys are so awkward.

1:10:29 Drew Can't fill the time.

1:10:31 Caller Plus, I said an activity. I was thinking like horseback riding or something. I don't know. But then I was like, I don't know, a 15-year-old guy.

1:10:36 Drew We'd screw that up, a guy.

1:10:38 Adam A movie is something you can't really screw up, and you get a little conversation beforehand, and you get a little conversation after hand. But you do get to pick up the person's vibe. If they're leaning the opposite way on the armrest, that's opposite of the one that you share, that's probably a bad sign. But if you're making a little elbow or forearm contact there, or she's giving you a handy through the popcorn container, or something like that, I'm just saying it gives you something to talk. What you need is something to talk about, but not too much talk.

1:11:12 Caller No, you don't want to sit there and just stare at each other to talk.

1:11:15 Adam All right, here's what you do. Here's what you do. You do the movie, all right, and then afterward, you grab a little yogurt or something. Not a full meal, but a nice 20 minute kind of smoothie kind of conversation. Sitting around, eating a little yogurt.

1:11:31 Caller So afternoon movie, afternoon movie, yogurt or ice cream. Right.

1:11:37 Caller Let her kick your butt at Skee Ball or something.

1:11:38 Adam Grab the ice cream, yeah. Let her win. That's right.

1:11:41 Caller Oh yeah. Nothing beats a good porno movie.

1:11:46 Adam I went on one of the first dates I went on. Speaking of these horrible 70s, you know what movie I saw in one of my first date movies ever? First dates ever.

1:11:55 Drew Give me a kind of hand.

1:11:57 Adam David Bowie was in this movie. Whoa. The Man Who Fell From Earth. And it's a bizarre 70s movie where there's a part in it where a woman is talking into a man's flaccid penis. Must have been R-rated. She's got the man's flaccid penis in her hand. She's talking into it as if it's a microphone. Very uncomfortable. You know, when you're out on a date and Flori Aguilar was the name of the girl sitting next to me and they're talking into this guy's flaccid penis and what the hell were we doing watching that movie?

1:12:32 Drew What the hell were we doing as a country?

1:12:33 Adam Yeah, everything was all left up back then. Brian?

1:12:38 Caller Yeah.

1:12:39 Adam You're 15? What's up?

1:12:41 Caller Well, I have this organization, really. It's called Project Spontaneous Disorder.

1:12:47 Adam Say it again.

1:12:49 Caller It's Project Spontaneous Disorder.

1:12:51 All right.

1:12:53 Caller We do, we go around doing stuff. Well, you know, we took a, well, we found a fish in the back of a movie theater.

1:13:04 It was a huge salmon.

1:13:05 Adam You found it there or you put it there?

1:13:07 Caller No, well, first I tripped over a fish. It was a salmon in the back of the movie theater. It's where?

1:13:13 Drew Are you in Seattle?

1:13:17 Caller No, I, no, I'm not.

1:13:19 Adam All right. So, so what was the fish doing in the movie theater?

1:13:23 Caller I don't know.

1:13:24 Adam Okay. Well, that's a good one.

1:13:27 Caller But no, we took the fish and we put it in the middle of the road.

1:13:31 Adam Why? Oh, I see.

1:13:33 Drew Is it artistic expression?

1:13:35 Adam No, no, I think what they do is they do, I think what he's saying is, and I may have a wrong read on Brian, is he does like undoes pranks. I think maybe he'll tell some more. I got the feeling he's going to tell us another backwards prank. See, the story would be, you'd find a salmon in the middle of road and put it in the movie theater. Not take it out, find it in the movie theater and put it in the middle of the road.

1:14:02 Caller I feel like this is going right over my head.

1:14:03 Drew Me too. To me, movie theater in the middle of the street, same bizarre quality to both.

1:14:08 Adam Oh, really? Tell us one more, Brian.

1:14:10 Caller Okay. One that we're planning, actually that we've planned.

1:14:14 Caller Yeah.

1:14:14 Adam Tell us.

1:14:15 Caller We're going to do sometimes a Christmas season.

1:14:17 Adam Yeah.

1:14:18 Caller Well, I bought a bunch of bubble bath.

1:14:20 Adam Right.

1:14:20 Caller I go to a mall and we're going to do that in the mall, in the mall fountain.

1:14:27 Adam Oh, man. You guys got to be locked up. You are insane.

1:14:32 Caller Wait. We have these old-fashioned toilets. Well, not old-fashioned, but not mainstream.

1:14:39 Adam Right. Sure.

1:14:40 Caller Where you can lift up the back of it.

1:14:43 Adam You're right. The bowl, right? Lid off the tank, yeah?

1:14:47 Caller Yeah.

1:14:48 Caller I put dye in there.

1:14:50 Adam Right. Like blue dye. Yeah. It's good. People think there's like a tiny bowl in there.

1:14:56 Drew A blue piss coming out of them? Dye ball.

1:15:00 Adam You're out of control, Brian. Hey Brian, drop out of school right now. And it just.

1:15:07 Drew Wait, I want to hear the.

1:15:08 Adam The comedy. Listen, how does the park go where you went to a movie theater and found.

1:15:12 Drew A fish.

1:15:13 Adam A fish.

1:15:15 Caller I was just, well, me and some people were hanging out in the back of a movie theater.

1:15:20 Drew Yeah, but why didn't someone, did someone comment as you carried a giant salmon out the front door?

1:15:24 Caller No, there was like a piece of plywood.

1:15:27 Adam Why was the fish in the theater?

1:15:30 Drew And didn't that occur to you as something?

1:15:31 Caller It was behind the theater.

1:15:33 Drew Like in the dumpsters, like in the alley.

1:15:35 Caller No, no, laying on the road, on the gravel.

1:15:38 Drew All right, so it's in the trash area, right?

1:15:40 Caller No.

1:15:41 Drew Was it by a river or the ocean or something?

1:15:43 Caller Nowhere close to.

1:15:44 Drew Close to. Nowhere close to.

1:15:46 Caller Nowhere close to.

1:15:47 Adam Okay, well, just one more. You know, I'll tell you something. Let me tell you something about our callers. Most people have almost no time for people like the people that call this show. I am infinitely fascinated in a sort of morbid, curious sort of way as to what the f half these people are talking about.

1:16:08 Caller I'm frightened.

1:16:10 Adam I'm absolutely fascinated by it. Now, Brian starts off with, he found this salmon in a movie theater, which we questioned a few times, but didn't seem to...

1:16:21 Drew He tripped over it.

1:16:23 Adam Right.

1:16:23 Drew I imagine walking between...

1:16:25 Caller I was thinking behind the seat.

1:16:26 Drew Trying to get to his seat and falls over a salmon.

1:16:28 Adam Now, that then changed to finding it sort of behind the movie theater.

1:16:33 Caller Nowhere near a lake or a stream or a war.

1:16:34 Drew Not in the dumpster. On some gravel.

1:16:37 Caller Then he put it out in the road.

1:16:39 Adam Brian?

1:16:40 Caller Yeah.

1:16:40 Adam I'm going to ask you just a couple of questions.

1:16:42 Caller Yeah.

1:16:43 Adam Was the fish inside or outside of the movie theater?

1:16:47 Caller Outside of the movie theater.

1:16:48 Drew All right.

1:16:48 Adam So that's not finding it in a movie theater.

1:16:51 Caller No, it's not.

1:16:52 Adam Finding it outside in an alley. Why do you go by a movie theater?

1:16:55 Drew Right.

1:16:56 Adam But there's no connection between the fish in the movie theater, is there?

1:17:00 Caller None whatsoever.

1:17:01 Drew Okay. Thank you.

1:17:02 Caller Okay.

1:17:02 Caller Jesus Christ.

1:17:03 Adam So you found it in some alley behind a movie theater, and you put it out in the street.

1:17:09 Caller Yeah.

1:17:09 Drew Fascinating.

1:17:11 Adam I'll tell you that's sort of razor sharp wit that is missing from society. He's a regular Oscar Wilde, this kid. Okay.

1:17:22 Drew Hold on.

1:17:22 Adam Brian. Yeah. All right. Have fun with all that stuff.

1:17:26 Caller All right. In. All right.

1:17:27 Adam No. Are you kidding? After telling that horrible, horrible, horrible story about.

1:17:34 Caller Well, why don't you hire him for the man show?

1:17:38 Drew Well, we're breaking here.

1:17:39 Adam I'd hire him before I hired Damian. All right. Let's take a little break. Brandon is 19. He's into casual heroin use. He tried methadone. He got sick and we'll talk to him and hear about that up. A beat feel good story after this.

1:18:00 Caller Um, back in a minute.

1:18:27 Caller Aloha, this is Don Ho, and you're listening to Loveline with Adam Corolla and Dr. True. Mahalo.

1:18:38 Drew You could just take care of the electronics here.

1:18:39 Adam Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam, Dr. Drew over there. Serenity is our guest tonight. Hello.

1:18:46 Drew I oiled up our chairs because I got tired of You have a pan. I don't. I need one of these.

1:18:52 Adam Here's, I will simulate how you would have to set your coffee mug down if you cared. There's ways to do it. You take some time with it, but not too much. If this was your coffee mug, you have to kind of let your hand hit and kind of take a minute with it.

1:19:09 Drew But not if it's here.

1:19:11 Adam No, not if it's here, but you do that for the most part.

1:19:14 Drew I know. That's why I need a pad here. Right.

1:19:16 Adam But I'm saying you could also avoid the noise you make with your mug if you pretended like people were listening. Do you know what I mean?

1:19:24 Drew Yes.

1:19:25 Adam If we were spying on somebody and they were asleep, and you wanted to do a thing where you kind of put your, you know what I'm saying?

1:19:33 Drew Yeah, you could do that.

1:19:35 Adam Not interested. Not practically. Not interested.

1:19:37 Drew We would never pull it off.

1:19:38 Adam But you're not interested, that interested.

1:19:41 Drew No, I wouldn't pull it off. I would be thinking about other things and pow, that would be that.

1:19:46 Caller Well, back to the point.

1:19:48 Adam We're going to get Drew a little pad so we can put his coffee mug down.

1:19:55 Caller A mouse pad would work, you know.

1:19:56 Drew Yeah, that's what we're thinking.

1:19:57 Adam Yeah. Brandon?

1:19:58 Yeah, what's up?

1:20:00 Adam I think Likus wouldn't stay in here too long.

1:20:04 Drew I have to glue it down.

1:20:05 Adam Brandon?

1:20:06 Caller Yeah.

1:20:06 Adam Go ahead, 19. Was casual with heroin?

1:20:12 Caller Yeah, it's pretty much my entire problem. Well, I mean, the entire whole casual heroin use, whatever you want to call it, pretty much comes from like drinking and it's other things too, you know? It's like...

1:20:23 Drew You're an addict, we got it. And by the way, there's no such thing as casual heroin. It does not exist.

1:20:27 Caller I mean, well, I don't do it like that.

1:20:29 Adam I mean...

1:20:29 Drew You will?

1:20:31 Caller I know addicts, you know, I know they get sick and I've never been doped sick before, but...

1:20:35 Drew No, addict doesn't necessarily mean that.

1:20:37 Adam Why would you even...

1:20:37 Drew Addict just means you have to keep using it. Doesn't mean dependent necessarily.

1:20:41 Adam Why would you screw around with heroin that way?

1:20:43 Drew You're probably screwing around with Vicodin and other stuff too, right?

1:20:45 Caller No, I don't mess with prescriptions drugs. I don't like them.

1:20:48 Adam Well, why... How often do you do heroin?

1:20:50 Drew I don't like them.

1:20:51 Caller I like once or twice a week.

1:20:53 Adam Well, you like heroin. Oh, once or twice... Okay, hold on a second. Once or twice a week means three, four, five times a week, A number one.

1:21:00 Caller Right.

1:21:01 Adam And so... And you're calling because you got a problem.

1:21:05 Drew Yeah.

1:21:05 Adam Alright, so...

1:21:06 Drew You're a heroin addict. Alright. It progresses and eventually will become dependent.

1:21:10 Caller That's fine.

1:21:12 Caller Well, it's like not... Heroin's not the only thing. I mean, I'll smoke crack too.

1:21:17 Drew I understand. That's often the way it goes.

1:21:20 Caller That all just goes together.

1:21:21 Drew Yeah.

1:21:22 Caller Yeah. But anyway, yesterday, like, it was me and my girlfriend and this guy from work, this guy I work with named Tony, and I just met him recently, and he does dope too, but he's more of a cokehead than anything. So he calls me up and he's like, what are you doing? I'm like, nothing, just sitting here drinking. He's like, well, come up. And I'm like, you want to bring some coke? He was like, yeah. So he comes over and he's all rocked out of his head. And we're smoking coke with him. And then after this, we were drinking. And me and my girlfriend, we had like $500 something dollars saved up. We were getting ready to get this apartment. And after I was all messed up, I was like all wired and stuff. And I was like, I want to go downtown and get a pill of dope. And I finally talked him into it. And he was just like, well, I'm going to turn around, take it to my house. I got a bottle of meth. I'll sell it to you for 40 bucks. It was 85 milligrams of methadone, methadone, methadone. And so I drank half on the way back.

1:22:18 Drew Half the methadone.

1:22:19 Caller Yeah, half the methadone. It was like maybe 45 milligrams, I think, I drank. And my girlfriend, Steffie, she was back in the house. And I gave her the other half of the bottle. And it took forever for it to kick in. But I mean, we got high.

1:22:30 Adam Oh, OK. All right.

1:22:33 Caller We got high.

1:22:33 Drew What's your question, Brandon?

1:22:34 Adam That's a close call for us.

1:22:36 Caller My question is, if methadone is supposed to be something to keep you from getting dope sick, why do we get so sick off of it? Because we've been puking. I'm sweating bullets right now. I'm sick right now. It's been two days.

1:22:48 Drew Because you're coming off it. You're coming off dope and all kinds of things. So if you kept taking the methadone, you wouldn't get sick like this. But you're coming off everything and you're having withdrawal.

1:22:57 Caller Hey, Brandon, this is all withdrawal.

1:23:00 Adam Brandon, you're pretty heavily into drugs.

1:23:02 Drew Way into it. Way into it.

1:23:04 Adam And this is going to be a tough road for you. And so this is a good time to start thinking about getting sober.

1:23:11 Caller I know I need to because it's really screwing up my whole life.

1:23:14 Drew Good.

1:23:15 Adam And your girlfriend too. Yeah. You guys don't have any kids, do you?

1:23:19 Caller No.

1:23:20 Drew All right.

1:23:20 Adam Good. Good. You use extra protection. There's a drug annex. Get everyone pregnant.

1:23:26 Drew Give a call over to NA or call a local facility where there are treatment centers. Me and Marilyn go to Hopkins. There's tons of treatment around that hospital.

1:23:34 Adam You know, here's the thing, as I thought about the tail he was weaving, that a lot of my friends got into, and where you really separate the men from the boys with the substances, which is when you are already good and effed up, why do you need to get more effed up? See, that's the part that never made sense to me.

1:23:58 Drew Remember an hour ago we talked about hunger and eating?

1:24:01 Adam Yes.

1:24:01 Drew It's the same deal. You can not eat, but when you start, it's game on.

1:24:05 Adam I know it's like once you fire up that engine, you gotta keep feeding it gas or it's gonna stall, but with everything, and this was always the part I never understood, although I did it myself many times, but I finally learned my lesson, which is when you get effed up, your job is to sort of maintain an effed up place, but why, you know, so that's where the trouble started.

1:24:28 Drew The going over the top.

1:24:29 Adam Yeah, see, everyone would be sitting around, it'd be 2.30, 3.30 in the morning, and half the people would go, you know what, I'm drunk as hell, I'm gonna go home, vomit, and crash, and the other, the guys that were serious troublemakers would say, we're gonna score an eight ball.

1:24:45 Drew Well, here's why.

1:24:45 Adam And they could have, they always wished they cashed in that night.

1:24:48 Drew It turns out when you look at other mammals who have, you can raise addict mice and addict monkeys.

1:24:55 Adam Yeah, I got an addict monkey at home.

1:24:56 Drew It's a gene. And when you look at those animals, and what they do is, there's a certain part of the brain called the nucleus accumbens, and the dopamine concentration, that level of the brain, becomes confused with survival itself. So it will do whatever it has to do to get the dopamine concentration to that level and hold it there. These animals will do it until they die. They'll turn away from everything else, and it's all about holding the concentration right there, because survival itself becomes, the message of the drug becomes the message of survival.

1:25:25 Adam Well, it certainly defies all logic, because you're already jacked up as much as anyone's going to get jacked up, and then you go on for another three hours, where you end up vomiting, punching one of your best friends, and losing. You're always out a couple hundred bucks that these guys do not have, by the way.

1:25:42 Drew They call the difference between liking it and wanting it. And when you really want to do something, you just have to do it. You keep doing it because it needs it.

1:25:51 Adam To me, it's liking it and needing it.

1:25:52 Drew Yeah, liking it and needing it.

1:25:54 Adam So want is not a strong word.

1:25:55 Drew Because they don't like it. They intellectually know it doesn't feel good anymore, but they can't stop.

1:26:00 Caller Yeah.

1:26:02 Adam Well, I got that figured out now, boy.

1:26:04 Caller Good.

1:26:05 Caller Eric?

1:26:06 Caller Yep.

1:26:07 Adam You're 16?

1:26:08 Caller Yeah.

1:26:09 Adam What's up?

1:26:10 Caller I want to be a porn star when I'm older, and I just want to know if that's normal for someone my age. Sure.

1:26:16 Adam We all dreamt. Drew, when you were 16, you wanted to do some porn. I mean, gay porn, albeit, but you wanted to be a porn star nonetheless.

1:26:22 Drew Well, I knew that was the important part of the road to the-

1:26:24 Adam Around the way to the straight stuff, right? So why are you qualified there, Eric? Well, maybe Serenity can do a little interview on you. Go ahead, Serenity.

1:26:35 Caller Why do you want to?

1:26:36 Caller Well, I've wanted to since I was about 11.

1:26:40 Caller No, why?

1:26:41 Drew How did you even know about it when you were 11?

1:26:42 Caller Yeah. I don't want to know that. Don't answer that question. I really don't want to know.

1:26:46 Adam Saw Serenity movie?

1:26:49 Caller No, I was into these two at an early age.

1:26:51 Adam All right. And now you wanted to be in it.

1:26:56 Caller Yeah.

1:26:56 Adam Yeah. Listen, I know what you're saying. When you're young, especially a guy who's... Are you getting laid, Eric?

1:27:04 Caller Yep.

1:27:04 Adam You are?

1:27:05 Caller Yeah.

1:27:06 Adam All right. Hold on a second.

1:27:08 Drew No, he's not.

1:27:09 Adam I don't know. Either... I just don't like him. I don't know if I believe him. But here's the point. The notion of getting paid to have sex is a very...

1:27:20 Caller It's pretty awesome...

1:27:21 Adam .pretty awesome notion for 15, 16-year-old boys.

1:27:25 Caller 30-year-old men. Yeah.

1:27:26 Adam Yeah.

1:27:27 Caller It goes the whole...

1:27:28 Adam I know it keeps going, but the notion that some girl would be offered up to you and that you were going to get paid to have sex with her at 16 is almost unfathomable when you're in the 10th or 11th grade as a guy. So I think many guys have this run through their mind. But Eric, they don't pay the males that much.

1:27:49 Caller Well, beyond that, it's a lot more work than what you think.

1:27:53 Caller I just want to know what I would do to...

1:27:56 Drew Yeah, Eric is completely dismissive of everything.

1:27:59 Adam What you would do?

1:28:00 Drew Yeah, that's fine. What do I do?

1:28:02 Adam What do you want to do? Whatever you're doing now is fine. I'm sure you're a horrible student, right? You're not going to go off to college. You're depressed. You're driving your parents crazy. So you just get horrible grades. You flunk out of school. You drop out of school, and then you run away, and then you go do porn.

1:28:18 Caller No, no, no. Stop, stop. I mean, if you're even thinking about it, then what you should do right now is learn how to do finances, learn how to do accounting.

1:28:26 Adam He's not going to do any of that.

1:28:27 Caller I'm just telling him that right now, like while he's in school, that's what he should do. So he'll know how to manage his money because you will get paid.

1:28:38 Adam Guys don't make any, do they?

1:28:39 Caller They make okay. They just don't make anywhere near what the women make.

1:28:43 Adam The guys who are just coming in off the street?

1:28:45 Caller Well, nobody coming in off the street makes.

1:28:47 Adam A woman could. If you were a hot young lass, you could make some money.

1:28:52 Caller Not as much as a girl that's established and that they know will sell a movie.

1:28:56 Adam Wouldn't take long though, I'll bet. I mean, if you were a beautiful 18-year-old girl who wanted to get into this, you could probably make your way up the ladder.

1:29:06 Caller Oh, absolutely. And guys can too, but it just...

1:29:08 Adam Yeah, but not like girls. Because guys are a dime a dozen for the whole reason.

1:29:12 Caller No, actually, it's the other way around. Which is why I don't understand why guys don't get paid more. For the men, it is so demanding.

1:29:20 Adam Well, no, they got to perform.

1:29:21 Caller It's a lot of hard work that there's only very few that can do it.

1:29:25 Adam Right, but there are many more who are willing to do it.

1:29:29 Caller Well, there's a lot that are willing, but there's a big difference between willing and being able, or I don't want to use the word skilled, to be deranged enough to be able to deal with the stress.

1:29:41 Adam Yeah, well, that's true, but I'm saying, anytime you're looking to employ people, and there's a whole big long line of guys who want to, or anybody wants to do it, you're not going to get paid as much.

1:29:54 Caller But see, that's the whole problem. That's what I'm saying, though, because they don't even give the guys a chance. It's a catch-22 because they want to see a movie that's already made, that you've already done, but they're not going to give you the opportunity to do the first movie to see if you can do it.

1:30:08 Adam Right, for the guys.

1:30:09 Caller For the guys.

1:30:10 Adam Right.

1:30:10 Caller Where the girls, it doesn't, you know, they're like, yeah, sure.

1:30:12 Adam That's my point. They don't get paid that much, and there's a lot of guys who want to do it. Not that it's not a skill for the guys who can actually come through, but this is the reality of it. So Eric over here is not going to make any money doing this. He's obviously, he sounds depressed to me.

1:30:29 Drew He's looking at that more.

1:30:30 Adam Eric, start getting into your depression and figuring out what's up with that. Stop thinking about the porn, alright?

1:30:36 Caller Alright, I keep smoking pot, man.

1:30:38 Drew Alright, well there's where the depression is coming from.

1:30:40 Adam Keep smoking weed and then you can get some dead-end crappy job and be angry at everyone all the time and claim that it doesn't affect you, although you never get any jokes and everyone laughs at you.

1:30:50 Drew And we can all tell you smoke a lot of pot.

1:30:51 Adam And you're just angry all the time and we can tell you smoke a lot of weed. Eric, you should quit smoking weed immediately.

1:30:57 Drew And deal with the depression.

1:30:58 Adam Thanks. Take care. Alright, we'll take a little break. We'll be right back.

1:31:03 Caller Hello, this is your radio. Love Line will be right back.

1:31:43 Adam Hey, everybody. Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew over there, speaking to Serenity, the world's smartest adult film actress.

1:31:53 Caller I don't know about that.

1:31:54 Adam Well, I don't know.

1:31:55 Caller I don't know.

1:31:57 Adam Well, you don't have a whole lot of competition. Although, what's her name, claims to be in Menza. What's...

1:32:04 Caller Asia Carrera.

1:32:05 Adam Asia Carrera. But anytime we question her on it, it always gets a little murky. You know... Much like many of the young actresses we used to have on Loveline, the TV show went to Harvard, Yale. And then as soon as you start asking them about it, it turns out they took some learning annex class.

1:32:23 Drew The funniest one of all. She speaks French fluently. Remember that one? Catherine started speaking during French. She was like, I don't actually speak French.

1:32:31 Adam Yeah. And this is what publicists get you. They lie on their resume or their bio sheet.

1:32:37 Drew Then it becomes reality.

1:32:39 Adam And they just lie on it. And then they don't tell you. You don't know what the lies are and what aren't. Right. And you say, the thing on this thing... That's what I love about publicists. This chick's bio says, speaks fluent French. So the show starts, and I say, I can't remember who the actress was, but I say, you know, as it turns out, Catherine, our chick host, and Drew, our dude host, both speak fluent French. So why don't you guys have a little conversation? And she just sits there. And then you realize, while the cameras are rolling...

1:33:12 Drew I went to Paris for a week.

1:33:14 Adam Doesn't speak a lick of French. And again, these are the publicists. Just getting in there and screwing everybody up.

1:33:21 Caller God bless you.

1:33:23 Adam And by the way, and they always say, Oh, the publicists put that there. Listen, read your own goddamn bio. I don't want... You shouldn't have... It says it speaks fluent French if you don't speak a lick of French.

1:33:34 Caller Have I read my bio?

1:33:36 Adam Read that bio. It says you speak fluent Hungarian on there.

1:33:41 Caller No, it doesn't.

1:33:41 Adam It does so.

1:33:42 Caller It does not.

1:33:43 Adam Okay?

1:33:44 Drew Okay, you sleep?

1:33:45 Caller Oh, I'm sorry.

1:33:46 Drew There you go.

1:33:48 Caller Hi, Serenity, Drew. Hello.

1:33:50 Caller And Adam.

1:33:51 Adam All right, hi. So, your question is how much for the dildo for two people?

1:33:57 Caller Yeah.

1:33:58 Adam The double-ended one?

1:34:00 Caller Yeah.

1:34:01 Caller For two people.

1:34:04 Caller Currently, we don't have out in the market the double-headed ones yet because there's an improvement I'm trying to construct with that. But do check out our website, lasvegasnovelties.com, for that type of product coming out in the future.

1:34:17 Adam What are you looking to put a sneeze guard on it or something?

1:34:20 Caller No. Chloe actually had an idea.

1:34:24 Adam Who's Chloe?

1:34:25 Caller She's one of our contract girls. She's an adult film star under contract for BCA as well as Las Vegas Novelties and she wanted to find a way to make it a little bit more stable in between.

1:34:36 Adam Yeah. It always bends. Yeah. That's smart. You need. It's true.

1:34:42 Caller Not that she necessarily uses them. I don't think she does, but it was her idea that I think came up on that.

1:34:47 Adam No. That's very sharp because the thing tacos in the middle.

1:34:50 Caller Right.

1:34:51 Adam You don't need that. Nothing.

1:34:53 Caller But either there was talk of like a handle or something.

1:34:56 Adam Well, they have a double ended one that's kind of like a nightstick.

1:34:59 Caller Yeah.

1:34:59 Caller But that one, it's, I don't like that.

1:35:02 Adam That's no good.

1:35:03 Caller I got to figure out something else.

1:35:04 Adam Hey, Kay.

1:35:05 Caller Yeah.

1:35:06 Adam You have a girlfriend?

1:35:07 Caller Yes, I do.

1:35:08 Caller And I'm really worried and concerned about her.

1:35:10 Caller Because we had anal sex tonight and now she's bleeding.

1:35:13 Caller And does that cause any permanent damage?

1:35:16 Caller Well.

1:35:17 Adam Hold on, Kay. What were you using for her penis?

1:35:20 Caller The dildo.

1:35:21 Drew How much bleeding we got going on here? Has it stopped or is it just a little bit mixed in with stool?

1:35:24 Caller Or?

1:35:25 Caller Yeah. She's still bleeding.

1:35:26 Caller Still bleeding.

1:35:27 Drew I mean, you can get some serious bleeding going that way. And you can even bleed to- Yeah. You should go to the hospital.

1:35:34 Adam You got a strap on?

1:35:36 Drew Yeah. All right. Listen. This is actually something that should be dealt with in the hospital. You can, listen, you can tear, you can rupture things.

1:35:44 Adam Is lube on her?

1:35:45 Drew It can just be a hemorrhoid. But even when it's hemorrhoid, sometimes it will cause stricturing of the anal area. I mean, this is stuff you can do to yourself that really is quite harmful. So you have to be careful and the bleeding can be brisk and dangerous.

1:35:55 Adam What's up with the anal lesbian strap on love?

1:36:00 Caller There was just something new she wanted to try.

1:36:03 Adam Well, check that one off the list. What's up? Are you guys pretty screwed up? She got problems? Somebody molested her or something?

1:36:14 Caller Yeah, with both of us.

1:36:15 Adam Somebody molested both of you?

1:36:17 Caller Yeah, we just love each other, so.

1:36:20 Drew That's an interesting response to somebody molested you.

1:36:25 Caller Love abounds everything including gender.

1:36:28 Drew Yeah, when you've been sexually abused, sure.

1:36:29 Adam Yeah, when you're whacked out. But listen, good. You can't have kids, right?

1:36:35 Caller No, but we can have a donor.

1:36:37 Adam All right. But nobody's going to do that. Look, you guys lube up and have had it, all right?

1:36:42 Drew No, she needs to go to the hospital.

1:36:43 Adam Oh, go to the hospital. Okay. See, listen. See, here's my whole thing from a societal standpoint. You know Kay's a mess. You know her girlfriend's a mess. Some horrible uncle did something horrible to both of them many years ago. And your heart goes out for him. But I hang up that phone and I feel great. And the reason I feel great is because I know they can't have kids. It's the heterosexual version of Kay that I really worry about because they're raising kids.

1:37:12 Caller So you're saying that they shouldn't adopt?

1:37:14 Drew No, no. What he's saying is that the cycle of abuse he knows is going to go on.

1:37:17 Caller Oh, like the DNA?

1:37:17 Drew No, not DNA. The 60% probability of people that have been abused will abuse. And so that's where that abuse comes from.

1:37:24 Caller Wouldn't that go on to adopted kids?

1:37:26 Drew Yes. We're not even going to that territory.

1:37:27 Caller No one's going to leave.

1:37:28 Adam Look, these guys can't hold down jobs. They're not going to get kids. They can't adopt anybody. That's fine. No one's going to give them kids. That's my point. That's fine. Look, no one would let the couples that have these kids adopt. That's my point. You know what I'm saying?

1:37:45 Drew I mean, the people that actually biologically have the kids.

1:37:49 Adam Yes, yes.

1:37:51 Drew If we could just screen them, we'd be in better shape, is what you're saying.

1:37:54 Adam Absolutely, absolutely. Kay's not going to be able to adopt anybody.

1:37:59 Caller Because she's a lesbian?

1:38:00 Adam No, just because she's a mess.

1:38:02 Caller Oh, yeah, okay. I agree with the mess.

1:38:05 Adam All right. I'm not into the lesbians adopting either, by the way. Really? I think it's fine. Well, you know, here's-

1:38:10 Drew Listen, there's no penis involved. They're better off.

1:38:12 Adam Listen, you're probably right, but here's what everyone does with these, whatever they make these arguments, it always bothers me, too. Serenity wouldn't dare do this, but they always go like this. So you say it is worse to have two loving female parents than a drunk and abusive heterosexual family? And I'm like, who said drunk and abusive? No, it's everything being equal. Everything being equal, kids need a mommy and a daddy. Everything being equal. I would rather have a lesbian, a rich, folk singing lesbian couple raise a kid than a drunk and abusive meth heads who lived in a trailer in Riverside. Don't get me wrong.

1:38:51 Drew Meaning most Americans.

1:38:51 Adam That's not the argument. I'm making it.

1:38:54 Caller Yeah. All right.

1:38:55 Adam We'll take a little break. We'll be back.

1:39:10 Caller Believe it or not, other normal people are out there looking too.

1:39:12 Caller 877-889-DATE.

1:39:16 Caller 1-800-LOVE-191.

1:39:51 Adam All right. Well, there it is. Another fabulous show. I want to thank Serenity for coming in here and speaking her mind and giving us a good spirited debate. And for that, we're going to, oh, our pleasure, we're going to reward her with one more plug in the website.

1:40:07 Caller lasvegasnovelties.com.

1:40:09 Adam And I'm here to tell you very high quality stuff for you and the Mrs. and the Mrs. Assises.

1:40:19 Caller Make sure you ask for it by name.

1:40:21 Adam That's right. All right. So thanks, Serenity. And thanks to Dr. Drew. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo. What's up with the anal lesbian strap on love?

1:40:35 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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