Episode 1000754886212

1:07 Voiceover Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline Coast to Coast.

1:12 Drew Hey, it is Loveline. I'm Dr. Drew. Adam Corolla will be with us momentarily. In the studio with me, Puddle of Mudd, new album is, well, not new album, it's been out for a while, Come Clean. In the studio is Wes Scantlin, lead singer and Greg Upchurch, the drummer. How long has the album been out for?

1:30 Puddle of Mudd Three months.

1:31 Drew Greg to my left, Wes to my right, as you're facing me.

1:34 Puddle of Mudd I think three months, maybe. Four months.

1:38 Drew How's it going?

1:39 Puddle of Mudd Four months. Okay, we'll say four.

1:40 Drew We'll go with four. Are you guys out on tour right now or is it?

1:43 Puddle of Mudd We just actually got done finishing our first headlining tour and we are very tired souls.

1:53 Drew I understand how you guys do it. You're living, are you on a van? I mean, you're on a bus?

1:57 Puddle of Mudd We're on a bus.

1:58 Drew Oh my God. How many guys are there in the band? Four?

2:01 Puddle of Mudd Four. Four people. Paul Phillips is a guitar player and Doug Ardito is the bass player. He got Greg Uppchurch on the drums and Wesley Scanlon on the drums.

2:09 Drew Four musicians stuck in a van for how many months?

2:13 Puddle of Mudd Eight months.

2:13 Drew That's just scary.

2:15 Puddle of Mudd Oh God.

2:16 Drew Where are you guys from originally?

2:18 Puddle of Mudd I'm originally from Kansas City, Missouri.

2:20 Puddle of Mudd And I'm from-

2:21 Drew Oklahoma.

2:21 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, Kingston, Oklahoma. A little thousand town.

2:25 Drew How did you guys meet up? How did this happen?

2:28 Puddle of Mudd Well, I've said it before and I'll say it again. I went to a Family Values Concert and Limp Bizkit was playing with Korn and a bunch of other awesome bands. And I had a demo tape with me and a friend of mine had some fake backstage passes and we got backstage and I gave it to Fred's security guard, Richie, and he called back a few weeks later. And then we flew out to Los Angeles and that's where I met my homeboy over here, Greg, and Paul.

2:57 Drew Did he put you guys together?

3:00 Puddle of Mudd We kind of, you know, not really. Greg, you know, we had to search for the Gregmeister.

3:06 Drew That was the final piece.

3:07 Puddle of Mudd Everybody else, it was all good.

3:08 Drew But the rest of you already were together.

3:10 Puddle of Mudd No, we weren't all ready together.

3:11 Drew But how did you get together?

3:13 Puddle of Mudd When I got to Los Angeles, I met Doug Ardito. He was interning at Interscope Records.

3:20 Puddle of Mudd Hey man, I happen to play bass.

3:21 Puddle of Mudd He was like, hey man, I play the bass man. And he was really cool. So we started jamming and Paul flew out.

3:28 Drew But somebody wants to put all this together.

3:30 Puddle of Mudd Well, it was just like.

3:33 Puddle of Mudd Well, the band, I mean, the original Puddle of Mudd kind of fell apart.

3:38 Drew That was the one you showed Fred?

3:40 Puddle of Mudd Yes.

3:40 Drew Okay. And that fell apart. You came out here to perform with them or?

3:44 Puddle of Mudd No, I just came out here because Fred called me up and he was like, hey man, I really like the music and I think you're a great singer and I want to help you out.

3:54 Drew So, he brought you out and he put everybody together out here?

3:57 Puddle of Mudd We didn't really, I mean, I guess, you know.

4:00 Drew Were you living with him?

4:01 Puddle of Mudd Did he put you up? No, no. I flew out to Los Angeles. I had to do a lot of showcasing. It was just like a Blitzkrieg thing.

4:09 Drew And who organized that?

4:10 Puddle of Mudd Who organized that? That would be Fred.

4:12 Drew Okay.

4:12 Puddle of Mudd There you go. All right. Got it.

4:14 Drew Now I got it. All right. You know this show works. You just chime in whenever you want. You can't say anything. Well, you can't say things wrong, but I'm here to make sure nothing happens as a result.

4:22 Puddle of Mudd He's the doctor.

4:23 Drew Yeah. This is Naomi's 15th. Naomi.

4:25 Hi.

4:26 Puddle of Mudd Hello. What's up?

4:27 Okay. I got a question for you. Okay. Okay. Is it true that when a girl gives a guy a head and swallows, does it stay inside of her stomach?

4:36 Drew For a few moments.

4:39 Does it?

4:39 Drew For a few moments, yeah. Then it's absorbed and washed.

4:42 Puddle of Mudd Does it come out as a number one or number two?

4:44 Drew A little bit of both.

4:45 Puddle of Mudd Okay.

4:45 Drew A little bit of both. Okay. It's like if you sucked in what comes down the back of your nose, it's a little bit of a wheezing.

4:54 Same idea.

4:55 Drew That is disgusting. I feel sorry for you guys.

4:58 If you do that too many times, swallowing and stuff, is it true that you can have to have your stomach pumped?

5:04 Drew I've never seen... You sit around Sacramento thinking about these things. I've never seen that happen. I've spent a lot of hours in emergency rooms.

5:12 Because I heard that happened to little Kim. I'm so serious.

5:17 Drew I would think at the point at which you would want your stomach pumped, you'd be vomiting anyway. And the real issue here is that there are potential for sexually transmitted diseases. Just the same ones you can get by gentle contact. You can get them from giving the old oral sex.

5:29 Puddle of Mudd Well, don't swallow Kim.

5:30 Drew I mean HIV and all that good stuff. Let's see here.

5:33 Puddle of Mudd Oh, God.

5:35 Drew Isn't that nice? This is Sean, who's 22. Sean.

5:38 Oh, hi. Puddle of Mudd. Love you guys. I love that video, dude. That's awesome.

5:43 Puddle of Mudd Thank you, brother.

5:46 Drew How would we know that video? What happens in it?

5:48 I don't remember the name of the song, but it's where you're walking down the middle of the road and you grab the keys out of the truck and you throw the keys out in the mud.

5:57 Puddle of Mudd Right. That's a good video, man. Thank you.

6:00 I bought the CD yesterday. I haven't learned all the tracks on it yet, but just got it.

6:06 Puddle of Mudd Thank you, man.

6:08 My question is, for the last two years or so, I've been kind of living with anxiety disorder. I think it's an anxiety. I'm not sure yet.

6:17 Drew You're 22. You should kind of have that figured out.

6:20 Caller Yeah. Well, okay. I guess, yeah, I kind of do. I'm just kind of curious. Basically, is there anything that I can do by myself and on my own? Maybe reading materials or anything that I can research or learn about? Maybe I can overcome this on my own? Or should I?

6:37 Drew You might check out the website, the National Institute of Mental Health, but anxiety disorders, there is a behavioral component. I know at University of Washington, they have a big behavioral program for treatment of anxiety. So they may have something out. So you might try the medical school at University of Washington. But generally, anxiety is thought of as something that responds to either medication or to therapy. Therapy is about developing a new sense of yourself in relationship to another person. So it's not something you can really do by yourself. Oh, really? Yeah. You can certainly read about how to change behavior. You can read about how this works. You can read about the biology of it. And there are medications that are very effective, too. Oftentimes, this is really a mood disorder associated with it. So NIMH and University of Washington, okay? National Institute of Mental Health and University of Washington. Check out their websites for the medical school at University of Washington.

7:26 Okay. All right. Thank you.

7:29 Drew And this is Aroma17.

7:31 All right. What's up, Dr. Drew? I've been listening for a long time for Spine Caller. And last weekend, my girlfriend and I, we had a threesome with another chick. And I was just wondering, because she was like totally into the other girls.

7:43 Drew You're 17. You guys did that at 17?

7:46 Puddle of Mudd I'd never got a threesome at 17.

7:47 Puddle of Mudd There was only like four girls in my high school.

7:50 Drew They had to form a rock band and go on the road for a few years before the death of them. Who was this person? Who were these women? Women. How old were they?

7:57 Puddle of Mudd What's their number?

7:59 Oh my god.

8:02 Drew How old were they?

8:03 One of them was my girlfriend. My girlfriend was 16. And the other one? I don't know. It's her friend.

8:07 Drew Whose idea was this?

8:08 It was her.

8:09 Drew Your girlfriend's?

8:09 Yeah.

8:10 Drew Oh boy. And so what's the question? David Drew? Oh jeez. Oh! What was that?

8:15 Adam Yeah.

8:16 Drew Oh my god.

8:18 Adam The party's over.

8:18 Drew Oh. Adam Corolla.

8:22 Adam Daddy's back.

8:23 Drew Oh, so scary.

8:25 Adam Hi Wes. Hi Greg.

8:26 Puddle of Mudd Hello Adam. How are you, Adam?

8:28 Drew It's a good thing we spent that time talking on the phone about who was in here. So the engineer couldn't hook up the line.

8:34 Adam All right. I'm back and I've been listening. The show's been horrible, Drew, without any horrible.

8:40 Drew Shut up. Go ahead and lighten it up.

8:43 Adam All right. Well, what's this guy? 17 and he had a threesome?

8:46 Drew His girlfriend's 16. It was her idea. And now the problem is, Roma what?

8:51 I just like, I don't know, like if she's not even into me anymore or not.

8:54 Drew She's into this other girl.

8:57 Yeah.

8:57 Drew The other girl that.

8:58 Puddle of Mudd Oh man, they're breaking out the toys.

9:00 Drew Well, no, here's the deal about threesomes is that everyone has their own sort of nefarious reasons for getting into them, but they always cause feelings that you don't expect and it always destabilizes the relationship. Very few relationships survive this. If this were someone you wanted to stay with, your girlfriend, you shouldn't have let this happen. But on the other hand, it was her idea. It sounds like she's kind of lesbian anyway, that she's more into her girlfriend than she is into you. Was she sexually abused or anything?

9:24 Caller Not that I know of. But when we're together, we have sex on a regular basis.

9:28 Drew On a regular basis.

9:29 Caller And then she's fine with me, all into me and everything. But then just around her at this time, she was not even interested.

9:37 Adam All right. Well, she's obviously a little chaotic and you've got a good story for your grandkids, so everyone's in great shape.

9:43 Drew I'm afraid that's about all it's going to be.

9:45 Puddle of Mudd It only works in the movies.

9:47 Adam What kind of toys do you pull out in a 16-year-old lesbian relationship?

9:52 Drew Are you asking Roma? No, you're asking the band.

9:54 Adam No, no. Wes or Greg have mentioned it.

9:57 Puddle of Mudd That was Greg.

9:57 Puddle of Mudd No, that was Wes.

9:58 Puddle of Mudd No, that was Greg.

9:59 Puddle of Mudd You know all about the toys, I think.

10:01 Puddle of Mudd I actually mentioned the toys. I was just saying that there definitely should probably be some toys involved, I would think.

10:08 Adam But isn't Lego going to have to come out with a dildo soon enough? I mean, let's look at the average age just spiraling down.

10:19 Drew The age of experimentation.

10:20 Adam Yeah, like Nerf comes out with one. Nerf, Lego.

10:24 Drew Yeah, it does need to get a Disney.

10:27 Adam My first dildo.

10:30 Drew What to expect when you're fill in the blank.

10:34 Puddle of Mudd Expecting.

10:35 Drew Okay. Adam, I save this one for you. It is Jen, who is 28.

10:39 Hi, Dr. Drew. Hi, guys. Hello.

10:42 Puddle of Mudd How are you?

10:42 Fine. Dr. Drew, I got a question for you. I've always had large breast ever since I was little.

10:50 Bouncy, bouncy.

10:51 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, a whole bunch.

10:53 And I've noticed as I've gotten older, my nipples are like turned in. And what can I do to bring them out?

11:05 Drew There are, I believe, there's some surgical procedures for that. And you can sort of keep them worked out. There's, you know, lubricants and things that you can see a dermatologist might be able to help you with that. General surgeons can.

11:16 Adam Can you coax them out?

11:17 Caller Huh?

11:18 Puddle of Mudd You get a personal, like, assistant, like, lick them all the time or something.

11:23 Puddle of Mudd No.

11:23 Puddle of Mudd Okay.

11:25 Adam Well, what about an Indian guy to blow one of those snake-charming boards or something?

11:33 Caller I don't know what you're talking about.

11:34 Drew Yeah, Greg has an idea.

11:35 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, just blow on your thumb real hard.

11:37 No.

11:38 Adam Well, can they be brought out? Can you get them out?

11:41 Yeah, can they be brought out? I mean, my breasts are, like, huge.

11:44 I mean, like.

11:45 Adam Can they be brought out?

11:47 Yeah.

11:47 Drew They can be.

11:48 It's like.

11:49 Adam Shut up. Can they be brought out? Yes or no?

11:54 I guess. I don't know. I mean.

11:56 Drew You should be working them out.

11:57 Adam All right, hold on. Would you put this goofball on hold, Drew?

11:59 Drew She's on.

12:00 Adam Drew, I'm trying to ask if she can get her nipples out. Does she not know what I'm asking?

12:06 Drew She can, and she was actually experimenting with them as you asked her, but she really needs you to know how big her breasts are. That's the big thing.

12:13 Adam I know, but I just want to know if she can get them out. She doesn't. She's sort of, I guess, or maybe, or I'm not sure.

12:19 Drew All right, here we go. Jen? Jen? Yes. Can you get them? Can you coax them out?

12:24 One of them I can and the other one I can't.

12:26 Drew Okay.

12:27 Adam Okay. And so once you get them out, can you keep them out?

12:32 No.

12:32 Adam I mean, if you put a zip tie or something on it, I mean, physically, you could keep it out, right? Couldn't you?

12:40 It just gets soft again and goes back in.

12:44 Adam Well, how big are your breasts?

12:46 48 triple D.

12:47 Adam Oh my God. Whoa, man. Whoa, whoa. How big's the rest of you?

12:51 I weigh like 165 pounds.

12:53 Damn, bitch.

12:56 Adam How tall are you?

12:57 I'm like 5'3, 5'4.

12:59 Puddle of Mudd Oh my God.

13:01 Adam All right. Let me do some quick radio math here, fellas. 5'3, 5'4, 155. I got 5'1, 5'8, 168. So she's a stout gal. What if the breasts were smaller, Drew? Would it help?

13:21 Drew It might. Again, yeah, it might.

13:24 Adam Well, look at it this way. If a woman is completely flat chested, does she ever have inverted nipples?

13:30 Drew Yes. She can.

13:32 Adam But would you say it's less likely or you don't know?

13:35 Drew I'd say it's less likely. It's less likely to be a problem, that's for sure. This is like, this is when they're like this, they sort of fold in and get irritated and it can be a real pain in the neck. Right, right, Jen? Jen?

13:44 Caller Yeah, it's a pain in the neck.

13:46 Drew Yeah.

13:47 Adam What's your boyfriend think?

13:49 Caller My husband loves him.

13:50 Adam No. He likes a man?

13:52 He does like him anyway.

13:54 Adam Yeah. I got an inverted penis. Maybe we should hook up.

13:58 No.

14:00 Adam I'll just crawl in your mouth and suck your nipples. You can go up my ass and give me a BJ.

14:09 Drew I'm sure that's retractable penis. Isn't that be fair?

14:12 Adam Well, all right. Maybe you're right.

14:13 Drew All right.

14:13 Adam Well, you can consult a plastic surgeon.

14:17 Drew Yeah, absolutely. Otherwise, I agree with that. I'm kind of coax them out, leave them out, and take care of the skin.

14:22 Adam Yeah. But I wonder what happens when she has kids. You think that will change things? It might.

14:28 Drew It's really hard to predict how women's breasts, some of them involute and shrink way down. It's different. It depends. What did she say?

14:35 Adam 48 triple E or something?

14:37 Drew I don't know. Triple G. This is Drew from Tennessee. 16.

14:41 Drew.

14:42 Yeah.

14:42 I got a question for the band.

14:44 Puddle of Mudd Yeah. What's up? Go ahead, brother.

14:46 What's y'all's relationship with Fred Durst?

14:49 Because I was watching one of your music videos and I noticed that he directed Come Clean.

14:58 Puddle of Mudd Yeah. He directed Control and he directed Blurry, both the videos and he originally signed me in the band and stuff. And he's a great friend of ours and he helps us. You know, amazing. Gives us amazing help and guidance, man. He's a really.

15:15 Puddle of Mudd He doesn't really overdo anything.

15:16 Puddle of Mudd He doesn't.

15:17 Puddle of Mudd He's not like.

15:18 Puddle of Mudd He gives us our freedom.

15:20 Drew All right.

15:20 Caller Cool.

15:21 Drew All right.

15:22 Caller Oh, I just want to say Adam, you are God.

15:24 Adam Thank you. Thank you, Drew.

15:25 Caller Whatever. Drew, you're a passionate, passionate, passionate man.

15:28 Drew Thank you, Drew.

15:30 Caller All right.

15:34 Caller Hey, how you doing? Hey. I have a question. Yeah. About the most contagious one. I was wondering about a year ago, Dr. told me that I have it and I was just wondering what kind of sex life I can have with it.

15:48 Drew What kind of? Well, it's easily curable. Didn't he take care of it?

15:54 Caller Yeah. He gave me some cream.

15:56 Drew Some cream. Usually just either you burn them off or shell off the little zits. Is it just in your pubic area?

16:02 Caller Yeah.

16:03 Drew Yeah.

16:04 Adam What do they burn them off with? A cigarette or like a Tipperilla?

16:08 Drew You can use liquid nitrogen or electric cotter unit, a little electrical spark unit.

16:14 Caller Do they always come back?

16:15 Drew No, they don't. They usually go away. In fact, it's molluscum contagiosum. The band is looking very- here. I'm confused. Molluscum contagiosum. Okay. It's a virus, common, causes a little- looks like zits with a hard top on them. And if you peel them, a little shell pops off usually.

16:32 Adam Drew, I love when you say, I love when you say spoon them out.

16:35 Drew Yeah, you can spoon them out. Shell them out is what I say, shell them out.

16:38 Adam Shell them out. I love that.

16:39 Puddle of Mudd Like an oyster.

16:40 Drew No, it's like a melon baller. You shell them out. Oh, man. And that's it. It's a virus. It's contagious. It doesn't hurt anybody. And it's actually transmitted. Do women get them? Yeah, women do get it. It goes away. It probably could go away if you left it alone, but it can be pretty awful. It can be spread all over the place. They need to be taken care of. Why in the hell don't you have them taken care of? I have.

17:03 Caller All right.

17:03 Drew Then relax. They're fine. It's all good.

17:06 Caller Wow.

17:07 Drew Is it the callers tonight or me, Adam?

17:10 Adam Let's see.

17:11 Drew Kaylee, 23.

17:12 Caller Hey.

17:14 Puddle of Mudd First of all, I wanted to say what's up to Puddle of Mudd.

17:18 What's up?

17:19 Puddle of Mudd I seen you guys a couple of weeks ago in San Jose. It was like the best concert I've ever been to. I had so much fun.

17:26 Drew Thank you.

17:27 Puddle of Mudd It was really awesome. But anyways, my question was, I just found out I'm like about a month or so along. I'm pregnant and I have my nipples pierced and I was wondering if you can, if I have to take them out to breastfeed.

17:43 Drew Yes.

17:44 Puddle of Mudd Okay.

17:45 Drew But you can breastfeed.

17:46 Puddle of Mudd I can.

17:46 Drew Yeah. But I'm worried about this baby if you don't cut out the pot and alcohol.

17:51 Puddle of Mudd No.

17:52 Drew Kaylee.

17:54 Puddle of Mudd I don't smoke weed. I swear to you. But as far as the alcohol goes, I'm going to be going into a rehab.

18:01 Drew Good.

18:01 Puddle of Mudd For alcohol.

18:02 Drew All right.

18:03 Puddle of Mudd In about two to six weeks.

18:06 Drew Are you going to be able to stay abstinent in the meantime?

18:09 Puddle of Mudd For sure.

18:09 Drew Yeah. You're not using?

18:12 Puddle of Mudd Well, tonight I am, yes.

18:14 Drew Using alcohol? Yes. And you understand that can permanently damage the baby?

18:18 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, but...

18:20 Adam You got to prioritize, Drew.

18:21 Drew Come on.

18:22 Puddle of Mudd This is why I'm getting help, okay, because I can't stop drinking.

18:25 Drew Yeah, but you need to go somewhere now before you harm this child.

18:28 Puddle of Mudd You can go to an AA tomorrow, probably.

18:30 Puddle of Mudd I go to AA meetings with my father.

18:32 Drew All right, but you need to get yourself a sponsor and get some peers that can support you and keep you abstinent. This is of life-threatening importance to your child. There's not no effing around time right now.

18:41 Adam Well, how much booze do you drink?

18:48 Sounds like a lot.

18:50 Drew It sounds like a lot, Kaylee. And this is extremely damaging to the child.

18:55 Adam When is it the worst? First month, second month, third month?

18:59 Puddle of Mudd I already have a two-year-old son.

19:02 Drew Does he have fetal alcohol syndrome?

19:03 Puddle of Mudd No. I drank with him until I was, like, three months pregnant. And then, um...

19:09 Drew You listen, just because you die... First of all, he may start to have problems. I'm sorry to say, Kaylee, as he develops...

19:15 Adam Well, but, Drew, are you ever going to be able to tell whether it was because of fetal alcohol syndrome or because Kaylee was his mom?

19:22 Drew It's hard to tell, but sometimes you can tell those things. Number one. Number two, if for the grace of God it doesn't happen, it doesn't mean you can dodge the bullet a second time. Right. So let's take care of this immediately. Immediately, Kaylee. Come on.

19:34 Adam Well, hey, Kaylee, what are you doing pregnant again? Is it the same guy or a different guy?

19:41 Puddle of Mudd It's a different guy.

19:42 Drew Did this dad that was the alcohol, recovering alcoholic, was he abusive to you when you were growing up?

19:48 Puddle of Mudd My dad? When I was six, my parents got divorced and he wasn't around.

19:55 Drew No, that's not enough to create this.

19:58 Adam But where is...

19:59 Puddle of Mudd They're both alcoholics, like alcoholism is very strong on both sides.

20:03 Drew No, I understand. I get that. But were you abused in some way? I mean, why all the sexual acting?

20:06 Puddle of Mudd By my stepdad, yes.

20:07 Drew Stepdad abused you.

20:08 Puddle of Mudd All right.

20:10 Adam Where is Papa number one for the first kid?

20:13 Puddle of Mudd My dad? He's here with me now. He just got out of prison like a year ago.

20:20 Adam All right. You really think you should be having another kid?

20:25 Caller No.

20:26 Adam Yeah. Why don't you give this one up for adoption?

20:30 Puddle of Mudd Because I don't want to.

20:32 Adam All right. Well, are you just hell bent on ruining this kid's life?

20:37 Puddle of Mudd I'm not going to ruin his life.

20:39 Drew Well, Kaylee, you're abusing him right now.

20:40 Adam That's what you said about the first one.

20:42 Drew Well, no, you're abusing him right now.

20:44 Puddle of Mudd But that's why I'm getting help.

20:46 Drew I understand. But the situation is so out of control that you're still abusing, even though you want to get better and you're going to get help. This is a very serious situation.

20:56 Puddle of Mudd Right.

20:57 Drew And I'm not sure. You're going to make your own mind up. And I understand that. And I hope you recover. And I hope that you can recover and manage two children by yourself. But I don't know how.

21:07 Puddle of Mudd I have help. My.

21:10 Drew You're the parent. You're the only parent. And believe me, as you know, having one kid, doesn't matter how much help you have.

21:15 Puddle of Mudd You're still a parent. The father of my child that I have now, I live with his parents and his mother is she runs the daycare and she helps me a lot.

21:29 Adam What is second? What's the second boyfriend? Is he your boyfriend?

21:36 Drew What was messed up for?

21:38 Adam Okay. Oh, listen.

21:40 Drew Anderson is punishing her.

21:41 Adam I want to. All right. He put her on hold.

21:43 Drew How come you didn't give her the usual speech, Adam, about the day endangering our country and.

21:48 Adam I was just getting warmed in. All right.

21:49 Drew Go ahead. Go.

21:51 Adam Well, is she on or is she gone?

21:52 Drew I'll put her back on. Here we go. Kaylee.

21:55 Adam I have some pertinent questions for young Kaylee. Where's the second dad? Is he in the picture?

22:03 Puddle of Mudd No, he has another girlfriend living down in Long Beach.

22:11 Adam So he's not going to be part of the child's life?

22:15 Puddle of Mudd He's trying, I guess. But whatever, I don't really care for him.

22:20 Adam What I'm saying is the guy who knocked you up most recently, is he around?

22:26 Puddle of Mudd He's around, but...

22:28 Drew Adam, forget it.

22:29 Adam Okay. Listen, Kaylee, give that goddamn kid up for adoption. Do you hear me?

22:35 Puddle of Mudd I guess, yeah.

22:36 Adam If it was up to me, I'd just take him away from you. You're endangering this kid. It's complete and utter chaos, your life. I'm sorry what your evil stepdad did you. If your dad was in front of me, I would kick him in the nuts as hard as I could swing my god damn foot. I'm sorry for what they did to you, but that doesn't give you the right to repopulate the earth with more screwed up kids. You're being selfish. Focus on the one kid, get yourself cleaned up and give this kid up to adoption, to a nice family can take care of him.

23:09 Puddle of Mudd Right.

23:09 Adam All right?

23:10 Puddle of Mudd Uh-huh.

23:10 Drew All right. Good luck with the program. But you need to get with it immediately. Call someone in the program tonight, tell them you're having trouble stopping drinking and you're pregnant. Okay.

23:19 Adam Just think about what these kids are growing up with. They're living at the house of the parents of the first boyfriend who's not really on the scene. Second daddy's not around. Mom was drinking pretty good through the pregnancy. She wants to know about pulling out her nipple rings in order to breastfeed.

23:36 Puddle of Mudd She loves our band.

23:37 Drew She loves Puddle of Mudd. Puddle of Mudd inspires her.

23:40 Adam Well, maybe there's hope for her yet.

23:42 Drew Yeah. Oh, God. Kaylee's too early.

23:45 Adam I don't. Here's all I'm saying. And Drew's heard it enough, but I'll speak to Wes and Greg. I don't know that our society clearly gets the correlation between Kaylee's kids and the trouble society has. Do you know what I'm saying?

24:01 Drew Kaylee's kids in the overpopulating jails.

24:04 Adam Oh, right.

24:05 Puddle of Mudd Well, whatever. That kid's adopted. That kid could turn out to be the president of the United States, but it's got a hell of a chance of probably being with Kaylee.

24:13 Adam Right. That's exactly right.

24:16 Drew All right. In the meantime, we're going to a break.

24:18 Adam Okay. We'll take a break. Puddle of Mudd is our guest tonight. Wes and Greg are both here. Come clean the name of the CD and we'll be right back after this.

24:27 Caller Hello. This is your radio. Love Line will be right back.

25:07 Adam Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla. That's Dr. Drew. I'm in Nevada tonight. Puddle of Mudd is our guest. Come Clean is the CD. Wes and Greg are both here. Drew, you'd appreciate this about two minutes before the show started. There was this nine-year-old kid wandering the halls here at the radio station. And I said, hey, kid, you know how to make coffee? And he said, I think I do. And I said, great, go in that kitchen and knock yourself out. He comes in here a minute ago. He hands me this cup. It's half full. It's sort of warm, suspiciously warm, but not like it went through a coffee thing. It's just warmer than room temperature. And it is just like somebody drained transmission fluid into a cup. It is black. It is just black is the night. It is thick as oil. And I have no idea what this kid just did.

26:00 Drew You got to give him an E for effort, boy. I got one kid would make you great coffee. The other two will make you sludge.

26:05 Adam All right. Well, oh, you mean your kids?

26:08 Drew Yeah.

26:08 Adam Oh, Drew, it's got to be a great day in a parent's life when you can train your kid to make coffee in the morning.

26:14 Drew Please. The coffee, the clean the table, the speak English and be understood.

26:21 Adam I don't want kids until they can make coffee. That's my new policy.

26:24 Drew In fact, that's when life begins. That's defined life as beginning that, shall we?

26:29 Adam Is that about eight or nine or what is that?

26:31 Drew Yeah, eight, nine.

26:32 Adam Well, what if I enrolled them in some sort of coffee making program instead of all this crappy swimming and math and all this other nonsense?

26:39 Drew You see how fluid is to define when life begins?

26:41 Adam Right, right. That's what I'm saying. Instead of taking my kid and putting him in like a tumbling class, some nonsense he's never going to use, or if he does, it's to get at his own junk when he's in high school, I'm going to teach him, I'm going to enroll him like some culinary coffee school. That's a good plan. I got to write that down.

26:59 Drew Good times.

26:59 Adam Here we go.

27:00 Drew This is Stephanie, who's 15. Stephanie.

27:02 Puddle of Mudd Hello.

27:03 Drew Hey, what's going on there?

27:04 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, okay. I went to this party, and this guy told me to come with him to another room. I was really stupid and I went with him.

27:10 Drew How old was this guy?

27:12 Puddle of Mudd He was like 18.

27:13 Drew Yeah. You were at a friend's house or where were you?

27:15 Puddle of Mudd No, it was like a bunch of girls, like together.

27:18 Where were you?

27:20 Puddle of Mudd My friend and I were making this party until a bunch of guys and girls come over.

27:24 Adam So you were at a friend's house.

27:25 Drew At her house.

27:26 Yeah.

27:26 Drew All right.

27:27 Puddle of Mudd And I went there and this guy told me to come out with him.

27:30 I was like, I didn't think it would be any harm.

27:31 Puddle of Mudd So I went with him and he raped me there.

27:35 Adam In the house?

27:36 Puddle of Mudd Yeah. Like he took me to another room.

27:38 Drew Did you try screaming or yelling?

27:40 Puddle of Mudd I was so freaked out. I didn't know what was going on.

27:41 Drew You sort of froze.

27:43 Puddle of Mudd Right.

27:43 Drew Had you been victimized in the past at some time? Were you sexually abused or anything like that?

27:47 Puddle of Mudd I don't know. My dad used to touch me, but like.

27:50 Drew Yeah. There we go. It's amazing the way victimizers find victims. They just know it. They just know.

27:55 Puddle of Mudd I cannot believe that. That is amazing.

27:56 Drew Yeah.

27:58 Adam Shocking.

27:59 Puddle of Mudd Shocking.

27:59 Adam We know she was victimized because if she hadn't been victimized by her dad, she would have like screamed and clawed and torn this guy up and made a bunch of noise.

28:09 Drew Right.

28:09 Adam It wouldn't have happened.

28:10 Drew When she has had that ability, she has been sort of indoctrinated into being a powerless person by parents who were supposed to empower. They took that all away from her. And now when somebody else takes advantage, she's a willing victim. Not a willing victim, Stephanie. We're talking about you behind your back in front of you here. But this is just the way these things get set up. It's a disaster. Can you can you report this guy?

28:33 Puddle of Mudd I don't know. I'm scared to. Like, I don't know what I'm going to get out of this.

28:36 Puddle of Mudd How old are you?

28:37 Drew Fifteen.

28:38 Puddle of Mudd And he was?

28:40 Drew Well, how long ago did it happen?

28:41 Puddle of Mudd Two months ago.

28:42 Puddle of Mudd Did you did you did you like did you like, you know, give him some kind of sign like it was OK?

28:49 Puddle of Mudd I don't know.

28:50 Drew No, it was just a 15 year old gave me a eight year old sign.

28:53 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, not exactly. The guy's, you know, still 18.

28:57 Puddle of Mudd Were you drinking? No, you weren't drinking or smoking pot or anything?

29:01 Puddle of Mudd No, just like hanging out.

29:02 Puddle of Mudd Was he?

29:04 Puddle of Mudd Yeah.

29:04 Puddle of Mudd Did you start kissing him? No, no, there was nothing.

29:08 Drew He just went right for it.

29:09 Puddle of Mudd Yanked you in another room. And the next thing you know, he was trying to like get down your pants.

29:13 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, I was very freaked out.

29:16 Puddle of Mudd So why did you just like kick him in the balls or something?

29:18 Drew Because she's a victim.

29:19 Puddle of Mudd Right, okay.

29:20 Drew She froze.

29:21 Puddle of Mudd She's scared. Yeah.

29:23 Adam Do you know the guy? Do you know his name?

29:25 Puddle of Mudd I know who he is.

29:26 Drew Can you report him?

29:28 Puddle of Mudd I'm scared to.

29:29 Puddle of Mudd Why?

29:29 Drew What are you afraid will happen?

29:30 Puddle of Mudd I don't know.

29:31 Puddle of Mudd He won't do nothing.

29:32 Drew Here's the reality.

29:33 Puddle of Mudd He'll freak out.

29:34 Drew He threatened me. He has threatened you?

29:37 Yeah, he told me if I tell him, he's going to get me in trouble and like...

29:40 Caller Because he's going to get in trouble.

29:41 Drew That's BS. They always say that.

29:42 Puddle of Mudd Because he's scared.

29:43 Drew But Lauren, we were supposed to get a Torrance policeman in here to talk about how to do the reporting of rape and how the procedure goes. And at very least, Stephanie, it may not do much for you to report this, except maybe to get you a little bit out of that victim role. And secondly, it'll at least create a record for him, which I suspect is already quite lengthy. And at least it might increase the likelihood that the next time this guy perpetrates a crime, something really will happen to him.

30:12 Adam What did your dad do to you?

30:14 Puddle of Mudd My dad, he used to like steal me up. Like I see Ryan Constable.

30:21 Adam But that was all he did to you? He just felt you up?

30:24 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, and like, I don't know.

30:27 Puddle of Mudd How long ago was that?

30:28 Drew Once he like what? He had sex with you once?

30:31 Puddle of Mudd No, he wanted to.

30:32 Drew He wanted to. And how old were you when that was all going down?

30:34 Puddle of Mudd I don't know, like six.

30:36 Drew Six, seven.

30:37 Puddle of Mudd Oh my god, that's terrible.

30:39 Adam Stephanie, you've got to get yourself some help. I mean, not so much for this recent event, but more for what your dad did to you. Can you talk to a counselor or something?

30:50 Puddle of Mudd Where did I go to find help?

30:52 Drew Uh, I've got my phone numbers.

30:54 Puddle of Mudd Maybe she like visualizes her dad as she was getting like abused by the other guy.

30:59 Drew No, no, no, no, it's just that the wiring gets screwed up as a result of parents doing this to their kids. I mean, this is sort of a typical Loveline call, I'm afraid to say.

31:06 Adam Is your dad an alcoholic?

31:08 Drew No.

31:10 Adam He does? He did this stuff sober?

31:12 Drew No. Okay, here you go. Ready?

31:15 Hold on.

31:18 Caller Okay.

31:19 Drew One is 1-800-CHILDREN.

31:22 Caller Okay.

31:23 Drew The other is 1-800-448. It says 4663 here, but I thought it was 4463.

31:32 Adam Oh, Jesus, Drew.

31:33 Drew Hang on. I have to get up and look at the side.

31:36 Oh, get the number right.

31:37 Adam Well, Drew, why are you giving her two numbers? Just give her the number.

31:40 Drew Hold on a second.

31:41 Puddle of Mudd He's finding it.

31:43 Adam But, Drew, why do you have to give her two numbers?

31:45 Drew Shut up. I'm looking at the top.

31:47 Puddle of Mudd Adam, give him a break. All right, brother.

31:49 Adam All right.

31:49 Puddle of Mudd He's really working hard right now.

31:50 Puddle of Mudd He is, man.

31:51 Puddle of Mudd He got up off his chair.

31:52 Drew 1-800-540-4000.

31:55 Caller 540-4000. Okay.

31:58 Adam Hey, Stephanie?

32:00 Drew Got a bunch of them.

32:01 Adam Is your dad still around?

32:03 Caller No.

32:03 Drew Oh, there's another call for you.

32:05 Adam Your mom got rid of him?

32:07 Caller Yeah.

32:08 Drew But here's a good one. I know this service. It's 1-800-4-A-CHILD. Call that one, okay?

32:15 4-A-CHILD.

32:16 Drew 1-800-4-A-CHILD. Number four, a child. All right?

32:23 Yeah.

32:23 Puddle of Mudd Good luck.

32:23 Drew Stephanie, good luck.

32:24 Puddle of Mudd Good luck.

32:25 Adam Don't report this idiot. Look, don't get pregnant. See, I want to get hold of her early. I'd put her on the norplant right now.

32:36 Drew Here's the-

32:36 Adam Let me think about this poor girl.

32:37 Drew This is an interesting follow-up to this. Put number three on hold, please. Damien, put number three on hold, please. Katie, Seattle, 20.

32:48 Yes, hi.

32:49 Drew What's going on?

32:51 I have a question about the guys I'm attracted to. I've been victimized in the past and so I realized that the guys I'm normally attracted to that are a little bit not nice guys typically.

33:04 Drew What do you mean you were victimized?

33:07 My first sexual experience I was raped when I was 15.

33:10 Drew You were 15.

33:10 I was 16 and I was passed out. I was drinking and I woke up to someone on top of me and pushed him off and had some drama.

33:22 Adam You know, hold on, hey, Drew, is that Tara back there?

33:26 Drew No, I think it's Katie's like a dispatcher in a 911 line or something. Where are you?

33:32 Puddle of Mudd She's at Wal-Mart.

33:34 Me? Where am I?

33:35 Puddle of Mudd Megamart.

33:36 I'm in my apartment.

33:38 Drew Well, turn the TV off or whatever is going on in the background.

33:41 I turned it off. Is it better now?

33:42 Drew Yeah, much better. Unacceptable. Unacceptable. But listen, Katie, that is, to me, I know it's sort of a superficial brush with your story, but I think that's a little less victimization and a little more alcoholism. Okay. You're an alcoholic, right?

33:59 I don't actually drink very much. Like, I will drink maybe on average two drinks a week. And I work at a place where I have full, like if I want to drink, I can go up and get a drink. Oh, really?

34:13 Adam You steal me a bottle of Meyers or something for later?

34:15 It's harder to steal the hard alcohol, sorry.

34:17 Adam Oh, okay, that's cool. Well, give me like a keg.

34:20 Yeah.

34:20 Adam But Drew, why do you think she's an alcohol?

34:22 Drew Well, I'm...

34:23 I'm a pothead. I'll admit that.

34:25 Drew There we go. Here we go. Because here's the deal. She did fight him off. She created a drama, which is sort of an alcoholic thing to do. And this all happened in a blackout. It all happened as a consequence of her alcohol use. This is about her addiction. This is not about being a victim. See the difference? If she were a victim, she would have frozen, and it would have happened three more times after that.

34:44 Caller Well, the thing is, is that after that, I have a very hard time, like...

34:49 Caller I...

34:52 Caller I don't want to all the time.

34:54 Puddle of Mudd You're not really attracted to her, are you?

34:56 Caller I don't know. Go very far with them. I have really weird feelings about it, but it's really hard for me to say no. Yeah.

35:02 Adam So, are you in a relationship now?

35:05 Caller Not really. I... There's one guy that I've been... that I guess I have sex with when I get really horny for the last year. But it's not a relationship thing.

35:17 Adam Why isn't it? You're not into him?

35:19 Caller Um, I don't... I don't really know what to do with myself in a relationship. Once a guy... he... Well, he doesn't want a relationship either. I know you guys are going to say, oh, he... this is a cop out, he's like getting the deal, but...

35:32 Drew No, no, no. This is kind of a complicated situation, Katie. this is... this is an addictive process underway, number one. That's sort of the through line here. And then number two, there is this inability to form attachments. It's an ability to have relationships and using just arousal as a way of sort of getting your... your human contact.

35:51 Caller Yeah, that's what it is.

35:52 Drew And that's... that's again more sort of using the same part of your brain you use when you're smoking pot or doing a lot of alcohol. That's sort of trying to be gratified in that moment to try to escape things. And that's not a relationship. That's not reality. That's not a good... that's a way of treading water, but you're going to get very unhappy and your disease is going to progress going down this path.

36:11 Caller And I... I don't know, now I've met somebody that is really nice, but when I meet really nice guys, I eventually get sick of them really really quick.

36:19 Drew Well, you sabotage it, it's too uncomfortable, it's too real, it's too vulnerable.

36:24 Puddle of Mudd Sounds like a guy to me.

36:26 Drew No, this is... Katie, really, if you want to get better, if you're interested, go to MA or AA and get started 12 step process and make some close relationships in the program and see if that doesn't start attracting you to and attracting to you healthier people. We want to hear a song, but is this... Is it okay to play a song now Anderson? Okay, Adam. Yeah, this first song is called Control, Puddle of Mudd.

40:33 Adam Puddle of Mudd, everybody off of their CD. Come clean. I'm Adam. That's Drew. Wes and Greg are both here from the band. I'm guessing we're going to take a little break.

40:41 Drew Yes, we are.

40:42 Adam And Drew, who are we going to talk to when we come back?

40:44 Drew Well, would you rather have the migrating testicle or the burning semen or the pee standing up?

40:51 Adam Oh, is it a chick who's peeing standing up?

40:55 Drew Yeah, it might ruin it for you knowing that she's 13, Adam.

40:59 Adam No, I could check to that. All right.

41:03 Caller Unacceptable.

41:04 Adam How about we take the-

41:05 Drew She's been on hold the longest. Let's take her.

41:07 Adam Let's do migrating testicle first and then we'll go pee standing up, and then burning semen. Yeah. Wasn't that an Elvis song?

41:14 Drew This all sounds like movie titles to me.

41:17 Adam Okay. We'll be right back after this. All right. Hey everybody, it's Adam, that's Drew. Puddle of Mudd is our guest tonight. Wes and Greg are both here from the band. Hello, hello. Hello. Is the name of the CD, and let's see if we can burn a few more calls here. What do you say?

42:03 Drew Yeah, we're starting with the migraine testicle, remember?

42:05 Adam Yep.

42:05 Drew Clint, who's 26, Clint.

42:08 Puddle of Mudd Hey, what's up?

42:08 Drew Hey, Clint.

42:09 Puddle of Mudd Hey, Drew. Hey, Adam. Hey, Puddle of Mudd.

42:11 Puddle of Mudd What's up, brother?

42:11 Puddle of Mudd Hey, what's up? Adam, you'll probably understand this, but I was a wrestler big jock in high school and had a little injury when I was wrestling. A guy put it in the legs when he was riding me, and it really hit my testicles really hard and felt a lot of pain.

42:28 Drew You're gay.

42:29 Puddle of Mudd Okay.

42:31 Drew And then?

42:31 Puddle of Mudd We had to stop the match, but my testicles had gone up into my stomach. Sure.

42:39 Adam Listen, I would seek shelter, too, if some guy was riding me.

42:43 Caller Oh, my.

42:44 Puddle of Mudd Well, I got to say, I wrestled.

42:46 Puddle of Mudd When you put the leg in?

42:48 Puddle of Mudd Well, this is Greg. I'm the drummer. I wrestled for about 10 years in high school and stuff. What happened exactly? How did this happen?

42:57 Puddle of Mudd So I got hit really hard in the in the nose.

42:59 Puddle of Mudd With what? His knee or?

43:01 Puddle of Mudd Like with the shoe.

43:02 Puddle of Mudd Oh. And it went up inside that little part of the where the testicle can like escape to.

43:09 Puddle of Mudd But it went way up. So I just stopped the match and I pressed it back down and I went on with the match. But it just kept coming up thereafter.

43:16 Drew And then would it go up there only like after you masturbated or ejaculated that kind of thing?

43:22 Puddle of Mudd I didn't really notice it when I was younger. But the only thing that I noticed when I was like in high school is one testicle was lower than the other. So I had to endure the nickname one hung low.

43:37 Drew Again, if you could answer my question, would it go back into that slot up by your abdomen when you masturbated or when you ejaculated?

43:45 Puddle of Mudd Well, that's only started to happen now.

43:47 Drew All right. Well, that's normal.

43:49 Puddle of Mudd Yeah. But it's-

43:51 Drew Push it back down.

43:53 Puddle of Mudd But it's painful and it feels like the left one is smaller and it rotates a little bit or something.

44:00 Drew Well, maybe you actually had- is the left one the one that got nailed in the wrestling accident? Well, maybe you really damaged it then.

44:06 Puddle of Mudd Now, is it possible? Because when I'm with my girlfriend now, she has to tell me, you have to push it down now.

44:13 Drew Yeah.

44:14 Puddle of Mudd So is it possible to get surgery?

44:18 Caller No.

44:18 Drew Well, there probably is, but I wouldn't recommend that.

44:20 Puddle of Mudd Is it a rip?

44:22 Drew No. Listen, you may have damaged the testicle. That testicle, the one that's smaller may be dead, may not work anymore, may be sort of atrophied, we call it. The migrating business is no big deal at all.

44:33 Adam Why not? Why is that no big deal?

44:35 Drew Because it isn't. It doesn't hurt anything. Nothing happens as a consequence. No. This is Debbie, 13.

44:42 Caller Hi.

44:43 Puddle of Mudd What's up, Debbie?

44:43 Caller Hey. Hey, Wes and hey, Greg.

44:45 Puddle of Mudd Hey.

44:46 Caller I love you guys.

44:47 Puddle of Mudd Thanks.

44:47 Puddle of Mudd I love you too.

44:48 Caller Oh, thank you. I wanted to, well, I can pee standing up. It's a feat I have mastered. Well, like, I've been, I've known how to do this for about, like, three months now. I'm pretty good at it.

45:02 Drew You've mastered it.

45:03 Caller Yes.

45:03 Puddle of Mudd How do you do it? I've mastered it myself too.

45:07 Adam I'm still a little bit shaky.

45:08 Caller I did not say master.

45:10 Puddle of Mudd I can pee standing up.

45:11 Puddle of Mudd No, no, I can pee standing up pretty good.

45:12 Drew But what was the sort of training program you went through to?

45:16 Caller OK, you want to know how I can do it?

45:17 Drew All right. Yeah.

45:18 Caller OK, like, OK, you have to like make a V with your finger sort of and then like you spread the inner lips of the.

45:28 Drew So Adam, this is like pulling apart the two edge of the balloon mouth like a cushion.

45:35 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, that's kind of right.

45:36 Caller Right. Go ahead.

45:38 Adam Right.

45:39 Puddle of Mudd Anyway, spreading the lips anyway. Go ahead.

45:41 Caller Continue. OK, you put your fingers near the urethra and then you pee and you can like aim the same.

45:47 Puddle of Mudd What?

45:48 Caller And I wanted to know if if there's like anybody else that knows how to do this, because like they.

45:55 Drew Well, as with most things, humans have figured out just about everything. But Debbie, this may be something that no one, no one has quite mastered part of.

46:02 Puddle of Mudd She's probably the first female that can write her name in the snow.

46:06 Caller Haven't tried that yet.

46:07 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, eBay, eBay.

46:10 Adam So, Debbie, is it, did you do this all the time this way now?

46:14 Caller Yeah, pretty much. It's like easier and it's like faster.

46:17 Puddle of Mudd Are you a lesbian?

46:18 Caller No.

46:19 Adam Don't you think if somebody walked in on you in the girls' room, they'd freak a little bit?

46:24 Caller Yeah, that's why I don't really do that at school, unless like there's nobody in the bathroom.

46:27 Drew But she could really, she could.

46:29 Caller Because they'd see like my, like my feet pointing the other way and think I'm like a guy or something.

46:33 Drew She's from Van Nuys, Debbie, Adam, too.

46:36 Puddle of Mudd So you can't be in the snow.

46:37 Drew Yeah, but she could, you know, here in Los Angeles, we don't have like dividers. She could go to the man's room and stand at the trough with the guys.

46:42 Puddle of Mudd No one would care in Van Nuys, I don't think.

46:45 Drew All right, Adam, we gotta go to break. Jesus Christ.

46:47 Adam Oh, man. You know what, I crapped on myself this morning when I was in bed.

46:53 Drew What are you crapping? Whoa! Wait a minute. No, wait a minute. Okay, we gotta go to break. And you're gonna tell me. No, yeah, yeah.

47:00 Adam It wasn't solid.

47:02 Drew You're gonna tell me all about this when we return.

47:04 Adam All right, remind me, Puddle of Mudd is our guest. We'll be back after this.

47:08 Puddle of Mudd Here it is.

47:08 Puddle of Mudd Bottom line, it sucks being single today. Tons of lame people and no decent prospects.

47:13 Puddle of Mudd Call the Dateline.

47:14 Puddle of Mudd Call the Dateline. Call the Dateline.

47:17 Caller 1-877-889-DATE.

47:21 Caller Loveline will be right back, so get your problems ready.

47:24 Caller Ready.

48:03 Adam Hello, everybody. I'm Adam. That's Drew. It's Loveline. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Wes and Greg are both here from Puddle of Mudd.

48:14 Puddle of Mudd Big up, big up.

48:15 Drew Hello.

48:15 Adam Is the name of the CD. And Drew?

48:19 Drew Yeah. What were you talking about? We were talking about you crapping yourself, to put it in your words.

48:25 Adam Right. Seems like it was only yesterday.

48:27 Drew So what is this all about, Pray Tell?

48:30 Adam Well, it was this morning, I had to make an early flight out here to Vegas. I was going to get up about 730, but instead I got up about 645, when I thought I had blown an innocent fart. And as it turns out, some liquid form of the fart had come out of me.

48:53 Puddle of Mudd It looked like bile.

48:55 Adam Yes, and I knew I was in bad shape when I stood up and I could feel something on my calf.

49:00 Oh.

49:02 Adam Yeah, that's always a bad sign.

49:04 Drew You got, as my kids call, bababia.

49:07 Adam Yeah. You know that quick, you know that damage assessment? You have to do that damage assessment when you're a little bit out of it and it's dark in the room and you're not sure just how bad the damage is. And then you realize you're stepping in something and you realize, okay, this is bad.

49:22 Puddle of Mudd And then after it's all over, you're like, man, what am I going to do with my pants? Like, you soak them in the bathtub.

49:28 Drew Do I go back to bed after this or take a shower?

49:31 Puddle of Mudd Take a shower or a bath.

49:33 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, it's time to wake up and get your day started, I think, after that.

49:35 Adam No, did not take a shower until 8.30 this evening.

49:38 Drew Oh my God. You guys do not know Adam Corolla, obviously. Now wait a minute, you must have smelled like ass walking around.

49:44 Adam Well, now here's the thing. I got that toilet seat that sprays water on me.

49:48 Drew What did you do with your leg?

49:50 Adam Well, that I could get to with a Kleenex.

49:53 Drew Kleenex? You understand there's still quite a bit of debris left behind after this, especially with your hairy ass and legs.

50:00 Puddle of Mudd Back to the point.

50:01 Adam Drew, there's stuff floating all over the place.

50:03 Drew We don't know what it is. You must smell like you stepped in dog poop.

50:08 Adam I cleaned myself up as best I could and then I realized that I had about another 35 minutes I could get in. So I flipped my comforter completely over, which looked like a Rorschach test on one side, slid over to the good part of the bed.

50:23 Drew Your poor girlfriend wasn't there, was she?

50:24 Puddle of Mudd Oh my God.

50:25 Adam Well, no, she's run, but she's going to get suspicious when I tell her we have to change sides now, but I'll make up something about being closer to the alarm clock.

50:34 Drew Have you had any further movements since this morning?

50:37 Adam No, you know, but you know what? And I'll tell you, here's the real dangerous part. And it's like any great athlete who gets injured out on the playing field. I'm scared now. I'm scared to fart. My confidence has been riled.

50:51 Drew Wow, and for you, that's your primary means of enjoyment during the day.

50:54 Adam Entertainment. You see what I mean? You see what I'm saying?

50:57 Yeah.

50:57 Adam Yeah, so emotionally it's been very difficult.

50:59 Drew Oh, I'm so sorry.

51:01 But save the babies!

51:03 Puddle of Mudd It definitely must have been one of them nights, Adam.

51:05 Drew The Burning Seamen call just dropped off the alarm, so we're going to keep moving along. Burning Seamen.

51:11 Yeah.

51:11 Puddle of Mudd All right.

51:11 Drew Here's Ray from Baltimore, 24.

51:14 Caller Hey guys, how you doing?

51:15 Puddle of Mudd What's up, Ray?

51:16 Caller Not much. Not too long ago, I started having dreams about this guy at work that I work with. I'm a mechanic, so things like this usually don't happen out there on the floor. They're not talked about much. But I started having these dreams, like these sexual dreams about him.

51:33 Drew Faggot better run Drew, please.

51:36 Adam Let him finish.

51:37 Caller Right. So I've known this guy Ricky for a while now, and every time I have this dream...

51:44 Drew You know what?

51:46 Adam I don't believe it either.

51:47 Drew No. People do not mention the name of the person that they're feeling this way about on radio.

51:53 Adam Mechanics are never gay unless they work on English cars.

51:58 Drew Here's Adrienne, 15.

52:00 Caller What?

52:00 Drew Hi, Adrienne.

52:01 Caller Hi.

52:02 Drew Hello. What's up?

52:03 I'm on?

52:04 Adam You're on. Yep.

52:05 Hello. Okay. I like this guy and he's like, I don't really know him that well and I'd never know what to say to him.

52:17 Puddle of Mudd Okay. So what?

52:19 I want them to help. Like, I don't know what to talk about.

52:23 Adam Do you like the guy?

52:24 Yeah.

52:24 Drew How old is he?

52:27 Adam And how long have you liked him?

52:31 Like two or three months.

52:33 Drew Does he know you're into him?

52:35 Caller I think so.

52:37 Adam Why do you think so?

52:40 I don't know. I like giving my phone number.

52:42 Drew Oh, and he doesn't.

52:42 Puddle of Mudd Has he called you?

52:44 I don't think so.

52:45 Puddle of Mudd You don't think he's called you?

52:47 Adam Look, you don't even know if he's called you, goofball.

52:50 No.

52:50 Adam Jesus Christ.

52:51 Drew Of course you know.

52:53 I never, I don't know. If he called, I wasn't here.

52:56 Adam All right. He hasn't called.

52:58 Drew If he intended to make contact with you, he would have made contact with you. So this suggests that he's not really, I mean, you've done what you need to do. You sort of stated your case. You've given the necessary sort of equipment for him to contact you, and that's it. It's not happening.

53:13 Adam How did you give him your number?

53:15 My friend gave it to him.

53:16 Puddle of Mudd Oh, that's brilliant.

53:18 Adam What did they say? Did they say you were into him?

53:22 I don't know. I wasn't there. I like walked away. I gave her my number.

53:25 Drew Yeah, you didn't ask your friends what they said?

53:27 No.

53:28 Adam All right, hang up on her.

53:29 Puddle of Mudd Well, yeah, I'm good.

53:30 Adam I've had enough of her.

53:30 Puddle of Mudd I was bored, too.

53:32 Drew Well, I'm intrigued.

53:34 Adam Who doesn't talk to their friends and squeeze them for every detail?

53:39 Drew Adrian?

53:41 Hello?

53:41 Drew You didn't ask your friends what happened when you talked to him, when they talked to him?

53:45 Caller No.

53:47 My friend just said that she gave him the phone number and he didn't say anything.

53:51 Drew Yeah.

53:53 Adam Does he know which one you are?

53:56 Yeah.

53:57 Drew How did she communicate that to him?

53:59 I don't know.

54:01 Adam Okay.

54:01 Puddle of Mudd You need to be more on top of things.

54:04 Adam I'm just tired of her and her snot-faced attitude. Oh, who cares? So we call, so he doesn't call, she'll be fine.

54:15 Drew Hello? No. We'll cut this one off. All right. This is Jason, 15.

54:21 Hi. How's it going? What's up, Jason? Hello. I was wondering about marijuana because I'm a Luciferian and the whole religion is pretty spiritual. Yeah. They have you do a whole bunch of mind exercises where you can get more into it. Well.

54:40 Drew What does Luciferian mean?

54:41 Adam You're into Lucy or Lucifer?

54:43 Lucifer.

54:44 It's like Satanism, not devil-worshipping, though. It's about self-belief and Adam, this is something for you. More spiritual.

54:54 Adam Yeah. Maybe I could pray to Lucifer and not to pramp myself anymore.

55:00 Drew Wait a minute. Pot seems to be a very necessary ingredient in this whole thing. This is what Jason's laughing.

55:05 Well, the whole thing is that like these mind exercises for me are really hard. Like they have you hold things in your mind as still as you can for like five minutes, like a cube or something. And it's hard for me to do it for like five whole minutes.

55:19 Puddle of Mudd So you need weed for that round.

55:21 Well, yeah. See, I smoked like about two bowls and I sat down to do it and I could do it actually really good.

55:29 Puddle of Mudd I bet.

55:30 Like if I do just a little bit, I'll laugh like nonstop. But if I do a lot, I just get in like deep thought. And I was wondering what the whole process was of like marijuana. Like why it makes you think the way you think and like what the outcomes are if you keep doing it like more and more and more.

55:45 Puddle of Mudd Well, I smoked before and I know I stared at a cube, but I called it a television. You can do that. You can stare at that for hours and hours, it's a lot longer than five minutes.

55:55 Drew If you look at electron micrographs of brain cells after they've been exposed to marijuana for a period of months, they actually develop a layer over them. The cells become sort of encased and no one knows what that chemical is, but it decreases the functioning of the cells in your brain.

56:08 Does it hurt them or anything like that?

56:11 Puddle of Mudd You're not transmitting the signals correctly. Right.

56:13 Puddle of Mudd Exactly.

56:15 Adam Well, I'm more interested in the Luciferian.

56:17 Puddle of Mudd Exactly.

56:19 Adam Lucifer is Lucifer, right?

56:21 Yeah. Well, there are four Crown Princes of Hell, Belial, Levitian, Lucifer, and Satan. The reason why we…

56:28 Adam Wait, wait. What are they? Oh, so Lucifer and Satan are not the same dude?

56:32 Oh, not at all.

56:33 Puddle of Mudd They're like cousins. They're like cousins.

56:35 Adam I don't know. See, I think Satan needs a publicist then because he's oftentimes confused.

56:42 Caller That's Satanism, and that's just more of non-spiritual. It's very humanist base. It's just, you know, I believe in me, and if you don't believe in me, then…

56:50 Puddle of Mudd Okay, and you're off the f-word.

56:53 Puddle of Mudd I was with people.

56:54 Adam Drew, what would you do with him if he was like 15 and a Luciferian?

57:00 Drew This is the same thing that John, what's the name of the dude, that went off to Afghanistan to become an Al-Qaeda. This is the same mindset.

57:10 Puddle of Mudd You know, he just got lost and confused, you know, he just accidentally joined the Taliban.

57:14 Drew This is someone who has a no sense of self, very profound emptiness and is searching for some way to fill that emptiness.

57:21 Puddle of Mudd I did the same thing. I was a Catholic.

57:23 Puddle of Mudd He's in a cave, I think, right now.

57:25 Puddle of Mudd Right.

57:25 Adam How bummed out are that guy's parents, by the way, the guy who went to join the Al-Qaeda network?

57:30 Drew Guess what? His parents are pathetic. The dad's thing, when he started dressing in robes and Afghan outfits in wherever he was in Northern California, and chanting, the father thought, oh, hey, good, you're expressing yourself. You idiot.

57:46 Puddle of Mudd He said, I saw that, he goes, he got caught up in something.

57:49 Puddle of Mudd I mean, you get caught up in cocaine.

57:52 Puddle of Mudd It was a phase.

57:53 Drew It was a phase with self-expression. We thought it was kind of expressive.

57:57 Caller You idiot.

57:58 Puddle of Mudd Funky father.

57:58 Puddle of Mudd That kid is like piercing your ears.

58:00 Drew That kid needed treatment just the way this kid needs treatment badly. This is someone who's profoundly disturbed and searching for answers and not-

58:07 Puddle of Mudd Or he's just really stoned.

58:09 Adam That's part of the problem. I like the fact that that guy's parents, John, whatever his name was. First off, I love the fact that he has the world's most American mundane name. His name is like John Smith or Miller or something, or Williams. And the thing that's funny, those parents are worried about him now.

58:26 Drew John Walker.

58:28 Adam John Walker.

58:28 Puddle of Mudd Johnny Walker.

58:29 Puddle of Mudd Johnny Walker, there you go.

58:30 Puddle of Mudd Scotch baby.

58:32 Adam This kid was just living on the desert, eating scorpions and shooting, you know, hanging out with a bunch of bearded rapists who were praying to Allah for the last few years, and they didn't seem to be worried about him at the time. And now that he's in American hands, they're very concerned. How long was he over there? How long was he doing that? I mean, since he was 18 or something?

58:55 Puddle of Mudd I think he'd been sleeping for a long time, because when I saw him on CNN, he looked like he just woke up.

59:00 Adam He looks like Cat Stevens now.

59:02 Puddle of Mudd It is Cat Stevens.

59:03 Drew He's Muslim, right?

59:06 Adam Find out where Cat is. It could be him.

59:09 Drew This is Sarah, who's 24.

59:11 Puddle of Mudd Hello.

59:11 Drew Hi, Sarah.

59:12 Puddle of Mudd What's up, Sarah?

59:14 Puddle of Mudd What's up, you guys?

59:15 Puddle of Mudd No, I'm Mudd's baby.

59:17 Puddle of Mudd I have a question.

59:18 A couple months ago, like two or three days after my boyfriend and I had sex, his balls started hurting, and he said it felt like I kicked him in the nuts or something.

59:26 Drew One ball hurt or both?

59:28 Puddle of Mudd Both.

59:29 Drew You sure?

59:29 And he went to the doctor, and all the doctor did was like ask him a couple questions and then put him on antibiotics.

59:35 Drew Right, that's all he needs to do.

59:37 Do you know, but what would that be from? Because...

59:39 Drew It's Epididymitis.

59:40 And what is that?

59:41 Drew That's an inflammation. It's often associated with infection, inflammation of the prostate. It is an infection and inflammation of the little cap that sits on top of the test tube. It's a very simple thing to diagnose and a pretty easy thing to treat. Usually.

59:54 Puddle of Mudd It gives you like an inflammatory...

59:55 Drew It gives you an antibiotic and or an anti-inflammatory. You have to take it for a few weeks. And Chlamydia can cause it. Other bacteria can cause it. It could potentially be an STD. And it's a common thing. And it's sometimes going to become sort of chronic and become a real pain in the neck. It can be difficult to eradicate in some cases. But it's very, very common.

1:00:14 Does it have anything to do with like the type of sex we're having? If it's like anal sex or anything like that?

1:00:19 Drew Well, it's more bacteria, right?

1:00:22 Puddle of Mudd It might depend on the position, you know?

1:00:25 Drew No, you do real barrel or doggy. Your urethra is getting exposed to more bacteria, right, in the backside? Okay, so that could definitely have something to do with it. She'll be wearing a condom.

1:00:36 Okay.

1:00:37 Adam How often you giving them the big A?

1:00:40 Every now and then, you know.

1:00:42 Puddle of Mudd Use plenty of lubrication.

1:00:44 Yeah, we do.

1:00:45 Puddle of Mudd There you go.

1:00:46 Drew Adam, you asked something?

1:00:48 Adam I wanted to know if this was something, a friend of mine got this when he was like in his early 20s.

1:00:54 Drew Right.

1:00:54 Adam And so, the only time I really saw it in anybody I knew, and then it went away, and I'm just wondering, is this something that happens to guys in their early 20s, or does it happen more? You don't see guys in their 40s with this, do you?

1:01:07 Drew The guys in their 40s aren't having multiple partners. And that's where your risk for this.

1:01:11 Adam That's what it's from?

1:01:12 Drew Yeah, that's where the risk goes up.

1:01:14 Adam So, it's like it's a sexually transmitted disease?

1:01:17 Drew Of sorts, kind of, right?

1:01:19 Adam Thanks for the clarity.

1:01:20 Drew Well, the fact is, it's not a classic STD, and that it's not necessarily gonorrhea or chlamydia, though it can be. It can be any other bacteria, but when you're being exposed to multiple environments, there are lots of different bacteria that you can be exposed to.

1:01:34 Adam Yeah, he's been in all her environments.

1:01:37 Puddle of Mudd Brought into many jungles.

1:01:41 Drew Mike is 29.

1:01:43 Hi, guys. I have a question. My girlfriend and I just had sex tonight, and she's on her period right now, and we were just wondering what the possibilities were of her being pregnant, the, I guess, physical possibilities.

1:01:58 Drew It's possible. How can anybody give you a number at any point during your period?

1:02:03 It's her third day of her period.

1:02:05 Drew Yeah, but Mike, let's say you had intercourse at day 16. What's the number, what's the probability that I'm going to have a, nobody can give that number.

1:02:13 Adam Well, we can say it's less probable.

1:02:16 Drew It's less probable than in the middle of the cycle, but it's possible. I still think you should take the morning after pill.

1:02:22 Adam Okay, he should take it or she should take it?

1:02:24 Puddle of Mudd She should take it.

1:02:25 Adam Smart.

1:02:29 She has some, she feels nauseated every once in a while after we have sex, like a pocket of air, she says, in her stomach. That will last for like a day or two sometimes. Is that natural or?

1:02:40 Drew No, that can be cysts and can be other kinds of inflammation like endometriosis. Mike, you're 29, you're talking like an 8-year-old about the human body. Does she see a doctor regularly?

1:02:51 Caller No, she doesn't.

1:02:52 Drew Okay, well wouldn't that be appropriate?

1:02:54 Caller You're probably right.

1:02:55 Drew Yeah, she's got something going on there that's causing some sort of visceral discomfort and it may be no big deal, but it's something that should be looked into.

1:03:02 Adam Yeah, but listen, don't beat on poor Mike after all.

1:03:05 Drew But he was like, well, we have my, put my peepee in and then she feels like tummy pain for, it's like, yeah, you're 29.

1:03:12 Adam No, he didn't say peepee, he said ho-ho.

1:03:16 Drew Deanna's 39. Deanna.

1:03:18 Caller Hi.

1:03:19 Caller Hey, Puddle of Mudd, I love your new CD. I listen to it daily.

1:03:23 Puddle of Mudd Thank you, sweetheart.

1:03:24 Caller And tell me, Wes, is the little boy in your video for blurry, is that your son?

1:03:29 Puddle of Mudd That is my son.

1:03:31 Caller He is beautiful.

1:03:32 Puddle of Mudd Thank you so much.

1:03:33 Caller He is so beautiful. Okay, my question is this. My boyfriend is diabetic and... I know. He has a very low sex drive, very low, and I have a very high sex drive, so it tends to make a few complications in our relationship. And is there anything you can take that's natural or anything that could help him with that?

1:03:53 Drew Why would it matter to you whether it's natural or not? Don't you just want something effective?

1:03:57 Caller Well, because he's diabetic, I don't want him to take something that might... so much stuff that he...

1:04:02 Drew I understand that, but for instance, a medication that Viagra was specifically designed for situations like this.

1:04:08 Caller That's why... It's not that he can't get it up, he just doesn't desire it.

1:04:14 Drew Doesn't want to get it up.

1:04:15 Caller Right.

1:04:16 Puddle of Mudd Go for oysters on the half-skill.

1:04:17 Puddle of Mudd You should try getting him drunk.

1:04:20 Drew How's his...

1:04:21 Caller He's not supposed to drink either, so...

1:04:22 Drew How's his blood sugar?

1:04:23 Puddle of Mudd That's right, diabetic, I'm sorry.

1:04:24 Drew How's his blood sugar control?

1:04:27 Caller It's good. Sometimes, you know, sometimes it's real high. He's been working on it. They're giving... They're changing his insulin amount right now, so...

1:04:34 Drew What do you mean it's good if it's real high? It's not good.

1:04:36 Caller Well, no. Well, sometimes it's high, but...

1:04:38 Drew How often is it high?

1:04:39 Caller What they're doing right now is they're changing the insulin amount to see if they can monitor it a little bit more and keep it down more.

1:04:45 Drew Because it's not been good.

1:04:47 Caller It's been a little higher than the doctor wants it.

1:04:49 Drew Where has it been?

1:04:52 Caller Like 170s, 180s.

1:04:53 Drew Okay, that's unacceptable. Totally unacceptable. And that's what's going on here. He's having the damage to the nerves to the penis and that part of his body from the elevated blood sugar.

1:05:03 Adam Well, hold on a second now, Drusky. What should it be? What number should it be?

1:05:08 Drew 80 to 120. And then when he eats, it goes up in the 200s, no doubt, too.

1:05:13 Adam But she's, she's talking.

1:05:16 Drew And that is unacceptable. They're not in this day and age.

1:05:19 Adam She's not talking about his ability to achieve an erection. She's talking about his libido.

1:05:23 Drew It all, it all will go together, really. All right.

1:05:28 Adam Is Viagra something that they made for diabetics?

1:05:32 Drew Absolutely. Really?

1:05:33 Adam I didn't know that.

1:05:34 Drew I mean, amongst other things, it will work for diabetics.

1:05:38 Caller Okay. Well, just because I see, in a lot of medicines I read now, I notice that it says, do not take if you're diabetic.

1:05:43 Drew Right.

1:05:43 Caller I mean, it's something I never looked at before, but now I do.

1:05:46 Drew Well, here's the big problem, Danny. He has a very dangerous disease he has not taken care of properly. How old is he now?

1:05:52 Caller He's 35.

1:05:52 Drew All right. You know, he's done a lot of damage to himself by not having meticulous control over his blood sugar. Is he on what's called an Ace inhibitor to protect his kidneys? Is his blood pressure being monitored carefully?

1:06:03 Caller He's been doing his blood pressure every four times a day now.

1:06:07 Drew All right.

1:06:08 Caller So you see, it's not his blood pressure, his blood sugar.

1:06:10 Drew Well, his blood pressure is important to maintain also. And there are things that he can take to protect his kidneys.

1:06:15 Caller He does take a pill, but I'm not sure what it's for. I think it has something to do with his kidneys.

1:06:19 Drew All right. Well, in this day and age, there's just, it's inexcusable for him not to have very, very tight control over his blood sugar. And he could avoid all the problems if he really gets it back under control.

1:06:29 Caller Control of the blood sugar would help him.

1:06:31 Drew Well, might. It might. It will certainly prevent progression of the damage.

1:06:36 Adam Hit the Viagra, too.

1:06:37 Drew Yeah.

1:06:38 Adam Hey, Drew.

1:06:39 Drew Yeah.

1:06:40 Adam When you're diabetic, what can't you do? I mean, can you just chug a glass of orange juice? Is that OK?

1:06:46 Drew No, no, no, no, no, no. Everything has to be in certain balance. Your fat and protein and carbohydrate intake, it has to be adjusted for the amount of insulin you're taking and the amount of exercise you're getting. You have to really superstructure. And what happens most adolescents just don't do that. And that's when they really get out of control and have ketoacidosis and end up in the hospital and they damage them. It's nerve damage, it's a vasculopathy. The blood sugar elevation causes certain byproducts to develop and damage tiny tiny blood vessels that restrict the blood supply to the nerves. All the nerves get damaged. It's a mess.

1:07:15 Adam All right, Drew.

1:07:16 Drew Hey.

1:07:16 Adam Drew, are you a real doctor or just a love doctor?

1:07:21 Drew Hey listen, since we just mentioned Blurry in that last call, why don't we hear that song?

1:07:26 Adam All right.

1:07:27 Drew This is Blurry.

1:12:21 Adam Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Puddle of Mudd is our guest tonight, and the phone number for the show is... What's the phone number, Drew?

1:12:34 Drew 1-800-LOBE-191. Let's go with a little more easy type call here. Melissa, 14.

1:12:41 Hi.

1:12:42 Caller Hi.

1:12:43 Yeah, I wanted to know if you guys have any ideas. I'm going out with a guy who is 14 too, but he's never kissed a girl. He's never had the chance to, right? We've been going out for almost a month, and I don't know how to approach him about kissing him because I want to because he's really sweet. I've liked him for four years almost, and same with him. We've kept it a secret from each other without even knowing it. Isn't that weird?

1:13:08 Puddle of Mudd Just grab him by the back of the head, squeeze his hair and just lay one on him.

1:13:13 Puddle of Mudd He'll love it, trust me.

1:13:15 Adam He'll love it, man.

1:13:16 Puddle of Mudd He'll have a woody in seconds.

1:13:16 Puddle of Mudd If he likes you and you like him, it'll work.

1:13:20 Adam Are you guys sure? Are you a boyfriend and girlfriend?

1:13:23 Yeah. Well, see, I kind of have to keep it a secret from my parents.

1:13:28 Drew Why?

1:13:28 Adam I see.

1:13:29 Drew Why?

1:13:30 Because my parents don't want me to have a boyfriend until I'm 16.

1:13:34 Puddle of Mudd That's very wholesome. Yeah, that's very nice.

1:13:37 Adam By the way, on your 16th birthday, they'll bump it up to 18, and at 18, they'll bump it to 21, at 21, they'll go to 24.

1:13:44 They said me at 36.

1:13:46 Caller They what?

1:13:47 They said 36.

1:13:48 Drew I'm like, no. I like your parents.

1:13:51 Puddle of Mudd They get it all together.

1:13:52 Adam Drew, you said no boyfriends for your girl. For your girl. I thought you said post-menopause. Did you say post-menopause?

1:14:00 Drew I lightened up a little bit from that. I'll be happy if that happens.

1:14:03 Puddle of Mudd They can hold hands.

1:14:04 Drew Yeah.

1:14:05 Adam It was post-menopause or until you're dead, whichever comes first.

1:14:08 Drew That's right.

1:14:10 I guess.

1:14:11 Adam Okay. So you're sure the guy is your boyfriend? I mean, you guys.

1:14:14 Yeah. We've been going out for almost a month and.

1:14:17 Puddle of Mudd Sounds serious.

1:14:19 Yeah.

1:14:19 Caller I mean, I don't know.

1:14:21 Adam What do you do though? Like, if you don't kiss.

1:14:24 We kiss on the lips. We do little pecks and we hold hands and we hug and we cuddle and stuff.

1:14:28 Drew She wants to get the tongue involved.

1:14:29 Puddle of Mudd You want the tongue? I don't know.

1:14:31 Yes, I do.

1:14:32 Puddle of Mudd We'll get the tongue. Just say, open your mouth, baby.

1:14:35 Because I went out with guys who are more experienced than me, and all I've done is make out and stuff. So I haven't done anything else. And now I'm going out with a guy that hasn't done that. I feel like...

1:14:46 Puddle of Mudd You're a little bit more advanced than him.

1:14:48 Drew You're fine.

1:14:49 Just a tad bit, but not that much.

1:14:51 Drew All right. Relax. Everything is good.

1:14:54 Adam You shouldn't overthink it either.

1:14:56 Yeah.

1:14:56 Adam I mean, it'll just take its course. You just kiss him and the next time you kiss him, you don't pull your head away. You just kind of keep it there.

1:15:05 Yeah.

1:15:06 Adam Then you open your mouth a little bit. Things evolve from there. Right.

1:15:09 Puddle of Mudd Just grab him by the back of his hair and just do it.

1:15:13 Okay.

1:15:14 Puddle of Mudd All right.

1:15:16 Adam Don't let it screw up the whole evening up until that point.

1:15:19 Drew Worrying about it.

1:15:20 Adam You know how that goes when you're a kid? Like you're focused on the end of the evenings, you're freaked out the whole day.

1:15:25 Drew Oh my God.

1:15:27 Puddle of Mudd If you start off a date with a fringe kiss, like next time you go to the movies or you see him and you just start off with your tongue on your throat, you know, he won't stop till the end of the date, probably.

1:15:37 Drew Chris is 29.

1:15:39 Hi, this is Chris.

1:15:41 Caller I just wanted to thank Puddle of Mudd because of the song that they just played.

1:15:47 Caller Yeah.

1:15:48 Caller The video shows him and his little boy and everything.

1:15:51 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, man.

1:15:52 Caller And I'm going through the same thing with my little boy, taking him home and he don't want to go home to his mom and all that.

1:15:58 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, man. I understand where you're coming from, brother.

1:16:01 Caller It just kind of helps me because if I go to take him home and he balls and he just don't want to go.

1:16:09 Adam Does he not like mommy?

1:16:13 Caller I think it's more and he don't really, his mom don't spend enough time with him.

1:16:17 Drew How old is he?

1:16:18 Puddle of Mudd He's five.

1:16:20 Caller And he don't like his stepdad.

1:16:22 Caller I pretty much know that one.

1:16:23 Puddle of Mudd So basically he just wants to hang out with dad.

1:16:26 Caller All the time.

1:16:27 Puddle of Mudd Well, there you go, man. So you're good, man.

1:16:30 Adam Well, maybe you can get custody of him.

1:16:32 Caller Well, that's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to better myself, get a better job, and try to save up some money and that kind of stuff.

1:16:39 Puddle of Mudd That is hilarious. It's like he, this, this, his son wants to hang out with his dad all the time. But the father has no custody of the son. That is amazing. That is shocking to me, man. I cannot believe that.

1:16:54 Adam Do you have joint custody?

1:16:56 Caller No, I get him like every other weekend.

1:16:58 Caller And like holidays, every other holiday.

1:17:01 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, right, right. Yeah, I went through the same thing, man. I'm still into it.

1:17:06 Caller His mother, I mean, doesn't spend any time with him, don't really give a care about him. All she really wants is the support money.

1:17:13 Puddle of Mudd Right, the child support. That's a different story than mine. But yeah, I understand. Yeah, man, you know.

1:17:20 Caller When I take him back and then I seen your video of that song and it just tore me up.

1:17:25 Puddle of Mudd Well, hey, man.

1:17:25 Caller I just want to thank you. It helps me every time I hear that song to be able to deal with that pain more.

1:17:33 Puddle of Mudd Well, I hope it helps you and therapeutically helps you out, man.

1:17:37 Yeah.

1:17:38 Puddle of Mudd Thanks a lot. Good luck.

1:17:39 Puddle of Mudd Good luck, man.

1:17:40 Drew All right, Chris.

1:17:41 Adam Well, you know what's just got to be a back breaker is when you know there's some a-hole stepdad floating around. Right. And the reality is is the stepdad is spending five times as much time with your kid than you are because you're getting them every other weekend.

1:17:58 Puddle of Mudd And he probably doesn't, he didn't care, probably. Well, not saying that, but nine times out of ten usually in that situation, sometimes it happens.

1:18:06 Adam Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, I've had, I have a couple of step parents and you know, let me tell you, even, even good step parents aren't great. I mean, even ones that aren't bad, it's like, hey, you're not their kid. Oftentimes they have other kids and it's kind of, kids a pain in the ass. I mean, if it's not your blood, it's kind of tough on them.

1:18:27 Drew What do you mean you didn't have a bad step mom?

1:18:30 Adam She was, she wasn't, she wasn't bad by Loveline's standards.

1:18:34 Drew She cast you to the garage, had you showering in the hose bib out back and crapping into a popcorn tin.

1:18:40 Adam Well, actually, I made the decision to crap into the popcorn tin. Yeah, well, I was 18 by then.

1:18:47 Drew Oh, okay, oh, that sucks, as long as you retain it, okay. Okay, this is another Chris, he's 29, 27, Chris.

1:18:53 Caller Hey, how's it going, fellas? We're good.

1:18:55 Puddle of Mudd What up, Chris?

1:18:56 Caller Hey, Puddle of Mudd, you guys kick ass, man.

1:18:58 Puddle of Mudd Thanks, man, much appreciation, brother.

1:19:01 Caller Hey, Dr. Drew, I got a question for you. All right. My wife, she wants to have kids, she's Mexican, I'm white.

1:19:09 Drew Oh, that must be why she wants to have kids. Why did you throw that in?

1:19:14 Puddle of Mudd She's Mexican, she has children badly.

1:19:17 Drew Yeah, why did you throw that in?

1:19:18 Caller Just about every Mexican family that I know at least has, you know, a minimum of three kids.

1:19:23 Adam Most people-

1:19:24 You live in the valley?

1:19:26 Caller No, I live in Fontana.

1:19:29 Drew Most people wish to have kids. That's a common sort of thing.

1:19:33 Adam Oh, like, Drew, we know what he's talking about. The Mexicans crank them out a little more.

1:19:37 Drew All right, Chris, what's the question? What's the question?

1:19:40 Caller Well, you know, I was abused as a child, you know, pretty bad.

1:19:44 Drew Physically? Sexually? How?

1:19:45 Caller Physically. And, you know, that's kind of what I guess kind of got in my head, you know, that I don't want to do that to my kid.

1:19:58 Drew Do you think you might that you couldn't contain yourself?

1:20:00 Caller Well, I've been sober for about four years now. You know, I've been going to...

1:20:04 Puddle of Mudd Congratulations, man. It's a good start.

1:20:06 Caller Thank you. As a matter of fact, this January will be four years.

1:20:09 Drew Cool.

1:20:09 Caller And I just, I'm really scared about it, to tell you the truth, you know?

1:20:14 Drew Yeah.

1:20:16 Adam How old is your wife?

1:20:18 Caller My wife is 31 and I'm 27.

1:20:20 Drew Would she understand this? You know what I'm saying? Would she have a way of understanding what you're saying?

1:20:27 Caller I don't think she really does. I mean, she's come from this family that, you know, her father, he was a great guy. You know, he died recently. And her mother, she's the best. And she comes from this family that, you know, you only see on like, you know, like movies and stuff.

1:20:45 Drew Well, she married you, Chris. You know what I mean? Probably when you were in your disease. Right?

1:20:50 Caller No, no, actually I was sober about a year and a half when she met me.

1:20:55 Adam How many brothers and sisters does she have?

1:20:58 Caller She has two and I have two also.

1:21:01 Puddle of Mudd That's not bad.

1:21:03 Adam And she's 31 and no kids.

1:21:06 Caller Right.

1:21:06 Adam And Mexican.

1:21:08 Puddle of Mudd She's a keeper, man.

1:21:10 Caller She's the Mexican.

1:21:11 Caller She was a virgin when I met her.

1:21:13 Puddle of Mudd Oh my god. A year and a half ago?

1:21:15 Caller No, we've been married about two years now.

1:21:18 Puddle of Mudd Oh my god.

1:21:18 Puddle of Mudd She was a virgin when she was 29? 29?

1:21:21 Puddle of Mudd Oh my god.

1:21:23 Puddle of Mudd Really?

1:21:24 Adam She was a Mexican?

1:21:25 Puddle of Mudd She's been seriously missing out on some serious action.

1:21:29 Puddle of Mudd Are you sure she's not Puerto Rican?

1:21:31 Caller No, she's Mexican.

1:21:33 Adam What's up with her? Something's up.

1:21:36 Caller No, she's awesome. She is the best woman that I've ever met in my entire life.

1:21:41 Adam I know, but you don't meet a lot of quality single women.

1:21:44 Caller I know that.

1:21:45 Adam That's what I'm saying. You don't have a lot to compare her to. What I'm saying is, why was she a virgin at 29? What's up with her?

1:21:53 Caller Well, her family is very religious, and her father, he like, her father scared her.

1:22:00 Drew In the Loveline world, that's usually a reason for casting out for virginity at 14. I was going to say.

1:22:06 Adam Now, hold on. He's getting to the point where her father scared her?

1:22:10 Caller Yeah, scared her into believing that, you know, that whole religious thing about staying pure till you get married and all that stuff.

1:22:18 Drew What did he scare her with? What did he threaten her with?

1:22:20 Caller No, I mean, he didn't like scare her.

1:22:21 Adam Talking tequila bottle.

1:22:23 Caller You know, you'll be cast out of the family kind of thing if you have sex before you get married kind of thing, you know?

1:22:29 Drew So that, you know.

1:22:30 Adam All right, hold on. Put him on hold. We need to talk about him behind his back for a second.

1:22:34 Drew Adam, this is the women that maintain their virginity at any cost, but do other stuff?

1:22:40 Adam Well, okay, first off, let's not ruin poor Chris' evening by explaining how many hundreds of times she had anal sex. In order to save her virginity.

1:22:51 Puddle of Mudd This goes back to that swallowing story at the beginning of the hour.

1:22:53 Puddle of Mudd Right.

1:22:54 Adam But no, you show me a woman who up until the age of 29 was a virgin because her dad scared her into believing that she would be outcast from the family and cursed by Jesus if she did give up her virginity. Now, I'm going to show you someone with some issues at 31.

1:23:14 Puddle of Mudd You know what it might actually might be? It might be like she's a, you know, whatever. I don't know.

1:23:20 Puddle of Mudd It's a scary old man. Whatever it is, he's got to be horrifying.

1:23:23 Drew She married a guy that has abusive tendencies, but he's in recovery and he's doing well.

1:23:28 Adam Okay.

1:23:28 Puddle of Mudd Another thing though, you got to think about financial issues whenever it comes to abusive parents is whenever if they're not, I mean, where is his financial status? Is he prepared to have a kid? Is he prepared to be responsible enough to do that? Because if he's going to have problems at home, it's going to end up coming back to a kid anyway.

1:23:45 Drew I think the only answer for him is to talk to his wife about it. And maybe he can get some treatment, maybe he can work on this little bit as a recovery program. The wife needs to understand what she's getting into. About 60 percent of people who have been abused will themselves become abusers. And that needs to be sort of dealt with. And he may need to be on medication. There's all kinds of things that might be necessary to contain this guy's behavior. It certainly needs to be watched carefully by someone other than the wife.

1:24:09 Adam He seems like he's on the right road. And if he's still nervous, why doesn't he maybe get into a little therapy and say, you know, I'm going to work on this for a year and I'll feel comfortable. I'll be 30 and we'll start having some kids. Do you think his wife believes in the Chupacabra, Drew?

1:24:26 Drew That's probably why she didn't have sex.

1:24:28 Caller You know what I'm saying?

1:24:31 Adam The guts, the goats.

1:24:32 Puddle of Mudd Isn't that like the weird alien thing that came from Mexico?

1:24:34 Adam Yeah, that's the goat.

1:24:38 Drew Let's continue our conversation off the air about Chupacabra. Right now, we got to go to break.

1:24:42 Adam All right, Drew, it's good radio. Puddle of Mudd's our guest. We'll be right back.

1:24:48 Caller Love, Love, Love.

1:25:24 Adam Hey, everybody. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Wes and Greg are both here from Puddle of Mud. Come Clean is the name of the CD, and let's get to more calls before the night is through.

1:25:36 Drew This is Lovel, I suppose, H28?

1:25:38 Lovel.

1:25:39 Drew Lovel, I beg your pardon. All right, Lovel.

1:25:41 Caller What's happening, guys?

1:25:42 Puddle of Mudd What's up?

1:25:43 Adam Hey.

1:25:44 Caller Got a question from Puddle, man. Yeah. I had heard some stuff that CRETE ain't going to do no TRL or nothing like that. They're going to be sellouts. I was wondering how do you guys feel about that? Are you guys going to do the same?

1:25:55 Drew CRETE is going to do TRL?

1:25:56 Caller No, they're not going to do TRL. That's what I heard.

1:25:59 Drew Does that make them a sellout? Whatever.

1:26:00 Puddle of Mudd What's TRL?

1:26:02 Drew Total Request Live.

1:26:03 Caller Yeah.

1:26:03 Puddle of Mudd No, I mean, what do they mean they're not going to do TRL?

1:26:05 Adam Why does that make you a sellout if you're not going to do it?

1:26:08 Puddle of Mudd I thought that would make you, yeah, I thought that would be, I don't know.

1:26:11 Caller I'm just asking, are y'all going to keep it real? I mean, Freddie D compared you guys to Nirvana and stuff like that. So what's the haps, man? Are you guys going to be pumping out videos on TRL every month like Britney? And are you guys going to have Britney all up in your videos or?

1:26:27 Caller Well, no, well, shut up, damn it!

1:26:31 Puddle of Mudd I don't know, I mean, we got, I mean, we were on TRL with the first video, but that really, I mean, we don't have any control of that. I mean, if these kids like to call and request it, that's cool, and we did it because, you know, it's a good thing for our band, you know, it's a brand new record. We gotta promote the band, you know, it's like any other product, but I mean, I don't think we really care if we're on TRL or not. I mean, I know I don't, I know Wes doesn't, so I don't think it matters to us.

1:26:55 Puddle of Mudd The music will speak for itself, man.

1:26:57 Puddle of Mudd I mean, we're playing bars for clubs and stuff. We're not doing arenas. I mean, it's...

1:27:03 Caller Go ahead. How do I find out where you guys are doing local stuff, man?

1:27:07 Puddle of Mudd You can go to the website.

1:27:08 Caller What's the website?

1:27:09 Puddle of Mudd puddleofmudd.com.

1:27:11 Caller Really?

1:27:12 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, you can find out whatever we're doing. I mean, we're going to Europe, I believe, with Stain, and then we're gonna come back and do a headlining tour and hopefully find a cool opening band that needs some help, you know, that's not maybe getting the push it gets, you know, and just tour and travel, so it's cool.

1:27:27 Caller You guys are definitely headliners and stuff, and I'm sure, I mean, you guys, how'd you guys start off? I mean, you guys got back, you guys have people, you have people that follow you guys everywhere, I mean, is Freddie D like on the way to get into the industry?

1:27:40 Puddle of Mudd We have the palmettes.

1:27:41 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, we have our palmettes, we call them these chicks with palmettes. No, well, Fred Durst really doesn't have any, I mean, he basically discovered the band, and he's a smart dude, but he doesn't have anything really to do with the band. I mean, kind of like Stain, and I know you heard it from Stain, like he gives us advice, but it's ultimately our decision over anything that we do.

1:28:06 Drew Adam. Yes. Yeah, Lovel is one of these guys that believes it's luck. You know what I'm saying?

1:28:11 Adam Well, I couldn't quite get a good read on Lovel because he was saying that, I don't know, Stain did TRL or Creed didn't do TRL, so are you going to sell out like Creed and not do TRL? I'm not sure what that meant.

1:28:28 Drew He was saying that the innuendo here was, you're a sellout, you're going on MTV too much, and that somebody got you into the position you're in, right?

1:28:39 Adam Right.

1:28:39 Drew That's exactly his thing.

1:28:40 Puddle of Mudd I tell you what, I think the smartest thing for our band to do would be to tell Radio to not play our songs in MTV to play our songs, and I think travel and play karaoke bars.

1:28:50 Drew Adam has some feelings about guys like Lovel, right?

1:28:53 Adam Well, listen, I don't want to get into Lovel, but I just want to say that people think that folks, whether they're entertainers or singers in a band, have more control than they actually do. If you put out a product and it gets popular and somebody starts playing it, it's not like you went over there, gave Carson Daly a BJ, and forced him to play, slipped your CD in his ass crack while you're giving him a BJ. Somebody gave it to him, they liked it, the people heard it, the people liked it, the people requested it, and that's how it works. It's pretty simple. Ultimately, too, we're in this to make money. I think everybody is. It's a product. It's obviously a product you believe in, or you wouldn't be playing with so much passion and cranking out CDs and you want people to hear it. There's nothing wrong with that. It's a good product.

1:29:45 Puddle of Mudd Well, the thing is, at this time in my life, I don't want to go back to painting houses. You know, I'm not in it for the money, but still I'd like to be able to, you know.

1:29:54 Puddle of Mudd He wants to go golfing.

1:29:55 Puddle of Mudd I want to golf. I want to golf. That's what it all boils down to.

1:29:58 Adam What is the shame in people getting hip to your product if it's a product that's a good product?

1:30:05 Puddle of Mudd Well, kids get offensive because they think that they've, you know, not in all cases, but they found the band and I was the same way when I was a kid with Metallica. And whenever they broke, it was just kind of like, oh man, they're sellouts. And I felt the same way when I was 16, 15 years old. Now, granted, I don't know how that go, I was, I know.

1:30:24 Drew He was 28.

1:30:25 Puddle of Mudd Okay, so.

1:30:26 Puddle of Mudd Are you there, Lovel?

1:30:27 Drew No, he's gone.

1:30:28 Puddle of Mudd Okay, well, I think Lovel, you know, he's interested in other things.

1:30:33 Drew All right, this is George, he's 20.

1:30:36 Puddle of Mudd George.

1:30:36 Hey, how's it going?

1:30:37 Puddle of Mudd What was up, George?

1:30:39 Yeah, I've got a problem. I'm in the military, and my roommate has told me a few times about his homosexuality, and.

1:30:51 Drew Why is that a problem?

1:30:52 Because it's against the UCMJ, the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

1:30:58 Drew To talk about it?

1:30:58 To talk about it, or to engage in the act of homosexuality.

1:31:02 Drew Did you ask, did you remind him of that?

1:31:04 Yeah, I tell him all the time, you know, every time he brings it up, not to put me in a position like that, because I'm required also by the same code, not to inform the authorities, if I'm aware of a situation occurring like that.

1:31:21 Adam How is it that you have a roommate in the military?

1:31:24 That's just how it works when you're on training status in the military. The first couple of months, depending on what you're learning to do in the military, you have a roommate.

1:31:34 Adam Are you close to this guy? Is he a friend of yours?

1:31:37 We don't really hang out. We just kind of live in the same space. And he's studying something else, something different than I am.

1:31:46 Drew Has he ceased talking about this? Has he stopped talking about it?

1:31:52 No, he brings it up every once in a while, and I'll tell him, I'll say, hey, man, I don't want to hear that. You know how I feel. And I feel like I'm against the regulation, and I think that it's a stupid regulation, but at the same time, I'm mandated by the UCMJ to tell if it comes around.

1:32:13 Adam Well, look, next time he does it, just say, listen, corporal cream puff, bring this up again, and I'm going to say something about it, so do not bring it up again, because you're compelled to say something. I don't agree with it either necessarily, but I also don't agree with him bringing it up repeatedly when he knows he's putting you in a vulnerable situation. I don't understand why he would jeopardize his career that way.

1:32:39 Drew Right, or put you in such an awkward position.

1:32:41 Yeah.

1:32:43 Adam Are you freaked out about him, you know, coming into your room at night or something?

1:32:48 No, that's not a problem at all. The problem is that if it does, if it were ever to get out that he were homosexual to someone else like, you know, the unit commander or one of our platoon sergeants or whatever, and obviously they would come to me and ask me what I knew and that would put me, you know, exactly like you said.

1:33:08 Drew So he's putting you in a bad situation. I think Adam is right. You just put him on notice that it's got to stop or you really can't, you're a blind.

1:33:17 Adam What's his rank?

1:33:18 Drew We're done, Adam.

1:33:19 Adam Oh, well, I still think the corporal cream puff should be worked in. I mean, that's a good one.

1:33:24 Caller Thank you.

1:33:27 Drew All right. Well, listen, Puddle of Mudd is here. We got to go to break. Can we go out with our buddies from boot camp?

1:33:34 Caller You got another question, Wendell?

1:33:35 Drew Bring it on.

1:33:36 Caller Hurry up.

1:33:37 Caller Get it out of my face right now.

1:33:39 Caller Push, push, push, you nasty dung.

1:34:34 Adam That's it, everybody. I want to thank Wes and Greg for coming in here from Puddle of Mudd.

1:34:39 Puddle of Mudd Thank you, Adam. Thank you, Drew. Thank you.

1:34:43 Drew Greg is a new convert to this show.

1:34:45 Puddle of Mudd I am. I'm all about it now.

1:34:47 Adam I'm sorry. I couldn't be with you guys in person, but I'm sure.

1:34:51 Puddle of Mudd Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said he likes to be there next time.

1:34:54 Drew He likes it as much as bingo.

1:34:56 Adam Just-

1:34:57 Puddle of Mudd Keep on talking there, chisel-nits.

1:34:59 Adam Don't forget us on the way up. All right. Come Clean is the name of the CD. Go out and get it if you haven't already. Until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.

1:35:11 Drew Well, we have my put my peepee in and then she feels like tummy pain.

1:35:16 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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