Episode 1000734360198

0:57 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience.

1:01 Voiceover Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content. Sexually-oriented content.

1:07 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised.

1:08 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised.

1:13 Voiceover This is Loveline.

1:17 Voiceover With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

1:20 Adam Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Diction Medicine Specialist, Patrick Stump, Pete Wentz here. Tonight from Fall Out Boy. We got the new CD here. We will hear something off it. Well, I shouldn't say new, but newish CD. We'll hear a couple of songs off it. Bands from Chicago. No one has a bad thing to say about Chicago.

1:49 Drew Windy City Heat, man. My dad does.

1:52 Adam We know, we know. Windy City Heat. Oh, well, your dad grew up in Chicago.

1:56 Drew Yeah, during the Depression. Heard nothing but horror stories about it.

1:59 Fall Out Boy Yeah, you'll get bad stories.

2:01 We live over like John Hughes. All those movies are set, so we don't know any bad stories at all.

2:06 Fall Out Boy I'll tell you, except nerds winning.

2:09 Adam Growing up in the Valley, when I would see those John Hughes movies where the leaves were changing and Steve Martin was out on the lawn and had the beautiful picket fence and all the houses were the same. It was clear you had to have money to live here, but it wasn't ostentatious. It wasn't Graceland or anything like that, but everything was so nice.

2:31 Drew Pleasant.

2:32 Adam Pleasant, but without being ostentatious.

2:35 Drew We love Chicago. We love Chicago.

2:37 Adam Everyone loves Chicago, everybody. It's weird because it's got to be strange. Anytime you talk to anyone from Chicago who's out here, and they're all, oh my god, yeah, great town. Now, LA, you'd never hear that. You might hear it about their native Mexico or Thailand or wherever they were from. I just think, psychologically, what do you think it does to a town when you have no pride, no one cares, no one even mit to it? It's like, you're not even cool if you say you like LA. You know, you have to like some other town. You know what I mean?

3:12 Drew I just remember you and I walking around going, Oh, God, it really sucks. We walked around the state theater.

3:16 Adam We were beating LA up in Chicago.

3:19 Fall Out Boy Yeah, but you know, I don't know. That's kind of one of those things. I think it's kind of people, people, I don't know. In Chicago, you have like, whatever. My family's been there for like six generations or something. Really? So I don't know. I can't really.

3:32 Adam What are they? Are they? Is there business that you didn't get into? Are they all dancing?

3:38 Drew Sears?

3:39 Adam Furniture?

3:40 Fall Out Boy No, I was supposed to get into cars.

3:41 Drew Railroad?

3:42 Fall Out Boy So I'm kind of a disappointment.

3:43 Adam Is everybody, did your dad own a shop or sell cars or something like that?

3:47 Fall Out Boy My grandpa, my uncle, like, yeah.

3:50 Drew Dealerships?

3:51 Fall Out Boy Well, no. Body shop. And my grandpa was the car guy at Allstate, I don't know.

3:59 Adam To me, I'm trying to think I was putting a pox and a curse on my family, my wife's family earlier today, because now everyone is 70 years old and no one knows anything. And I get these phone calls every week. Do you think you could send some of your guys over to look at the roof? Do you know some guys? Could one of your guys, could Ozzy, could Ray? And I thought to myself, how come I know everybody and you pukes don't know anybody? And then I realized you cannot go through your life without making connections. But the number one connection, body shop.

4:30 Drew Oh, that's a good one.

4:31 Adam Yeah. I mean, outside of the political stuff.

4:34 Drew Body shop is always a dicey kind of a group.

4:36 Adam Doesn't matter. He don't ask questions. He found a little brain matter on the bumper and some blonde hair. That's all right. We'll buff that right out. No questions asked. All under the table.

4:47 Drew These guys sealed Capone into the fender of a car.

4:50 Adam No, I'm just saying as far as like, hey, I know a guy or my uncle, fill in the blank, you know, own in a liquor store, see nice Italian restaurants.

4:59 Drew That's a good, you know, your uncle.

5:00 Adam If you could have family members that had an Italian restaurant that had a body shop, and I'm trying to think a car wash wouldn't be bad either. I could use it, get those free air fresheners, you know.

5:14 Drew Which one, attorney?

5:15 Adam Attorney would be, yeah, yeah, round it up. We go to white college, right? Attorney, Italian restaurant, body shop. Those are your three uncles. Awesome, right? Yeah, perfect. Yeah. I don't have any of those. We will hear something from Fall Out Boy. Also, the guys are going to be playing on, oh, Carson. It's going to be on a Carson Daly show on, what am I looking for here? What's the date? November 4th. Ah, here it is, November 4th. Saw Carson Daly today, yeah. Over at Jimmy Kimmel's, you know where the boys go? Drew, you never go by, what is that? One Sunday, go by Jimmy's, have a beer, watch a little ball.

5:54 Drew I feel like you sort of discourage me from it.

5:56 Adam Oh yeah, don't go.

5:58 Drew I'll be happy to come.

5:59 Adam Drew, you will never, you'll never go.

6:01 Drew If I'm invited, I will come, I swear to God, I will be there next week.

6:03 Adam You don't have to get invited, just show up. That's the whole thing.

6:06 Drew We're, I'm going. Well, he's got like 28 TV sets. Now, yeah.

6:10 Adam Well, Jimmy, Jimmy has his-

6:12 Drew Now we're not going to be sick of each other anymore. We're going to want to see each other.

6:15 Adam Jimmy got a pizza oven. Jimmy made a pizza oven that is three stories. If there's an earthquake, it will crush a neighbor's house. It's that big. I put a smoke stack from the 70s coming down.

6:27 Drew Jimmy gets all food stuff. Extraordinary food making and food rendering stuff.

6:32 Adam Jimmy made 27 pizzas. Yeah, they fresh, fresh pizza.

6:37 Drew It's like New York stuff.

6:38 Adam All day, all day. Pizza's going all day.

6:42 Drew Oh my God.

6:42 Adam Yeah, yeah.

6:43 Drew Can I bring sons?

6:44 Adam It's awesome.

6:45 Drew No.

6:46 Adam Kevin goes in? There's a lot of blue language on our call.

6:50 Drew Don't worry.

6:52 Adam Stuff like that. So anyway, the guys are going to be on last call November 4th. What the hell is the date today? Oh, that'll be Friday.

6:59 Drew That's right, Thursday.

7:01 Adam Let's talk to Laurie, 17. Laurie?

7:05 Hi.

7:06 Adam Yeah. Well, it'll be Thursday night show.

7:08 Drew Right.

7:09 Adam Right?

7:09 Drew Friday morning.

7:09 Adam Right. What's happening, Laurie?

7:13 What's happening with you?

7:15 Adam All right. Let's go. What's going on?

7:17 Enough.

7:18 Sorry. Okay.

7:19 Yes, I kind of dozed off. Adam, I love your show on TLC, by the way.

7:24 Adam Thank you.

7:25 Thank you.

7:26 Adam Hold on a second. Dosed off.

7:29 Drew I know.

7:30 Adam Maybe I'm just sensitive because, ironically, my grandmother told me she dozed off watching my TLC show last week, and that was on VHS cassette. But I really feel like I have to give America a quick lesson in curriculum or not curriculum, but in general decency and etiquette. Don't say you've dozed off when people have been talking.

7:54 Drew Try not to follow a compliment with butt.

7:58 Fall Out Boy I think that's how all those compliments kind of go. We get them in the band all the time. A lot of people said you guys suck live, but I didn't think it was that bad.

8:07 Drew Thanks.

8:08 Fall Out Boy You know what I'm saying?

8:08 Fall Out Boy It was kind of okay.

8:10 Fall Out Boy Or there's nothing worse than the frantic fan who's like, I need the autograph. Then the person next to him who's faking like they don't want it, they're like, no, I don't care that much. You know they go around the corner and they freak out.

8:21 Drew What is that? I'm supposed to understand these things. I do not understand that particular impulse.

8:25 Adam Well, there's this one too. We've gotten it all the time. The person that has to come up to you and let you know they don't know who you are.

8:31 Drew My friends say.

8:33 Adam Everyone here seems to know you. I don't know what you do.

8:37 Fall Out Boy Are you some guy? I think you're that guy. They say you're some guy. I don't know. I wasn't paying attention.

8:41 Drew Why are you talking?

8:42 Adam I'll tell you what happened. I think the 50s, the 40s, the 50s, the 60s, it was cool to be a fan. Then at a certain point, you became a kiss ass and you all-

8:52 Drew You were sucking up to the man.

8:53 Adam You're sucking up. So you have to pretend like you're not a fan. Yeah.

8:57 Drew You have to cut, and even if you really aren't a fan, you have to cut somebody down the sides.

9:01 Adam Right. No worst time to be a celebrity. Lori?

9:05 Yeah, okay. Sorry about that.

9:07 Adam Let me tell you something too. Back in the day, if you were a celebrity and you wanted to bang another celebrity, that was your business. You know what I mean? You could be married with 30 kids, go out and just have a gay tryst with any leading man in Hollywood and nobody would know about it. You know what I mean?

9:24 Drew Well, they would know about it, but they wouldn't talk about it.

9:27 Fall Out Boy There were those secrets though, people weren't supposed to talk about things.

9:29 Adam Secrets, that's right.

9:30 Fall Out Boy You never saw Jack Canning with a cigarette.

9:32 Adam Secrets, that's right, that's right. They were just that. Laurie?

9:37 Yeah?

9:38 Adam Go ahead.

9:40 Okay, my vagina is always wet.

9:44 Adam Wow. Look at the chase.

9:45 Drew Here we go. Clearly there's a wait now.

9:49 Fall Out Boy Yeah, this radio show is awesome.

9:51 Drew You're always aroused or there's just always sort of...

9:54 No, no, it's always lubricated no matter what.

9:58 Drew Do you have a discharge all the time?

9:59 Yes.

10:00 Drew How long has this been going on for?

10:03 For as long as I can remember.

10:04 Drew And do you have normal pap smears? Or have you ever had a pap smear?

10:07 No, I've had two because I've been put on birth control. This is patent here.

10:11 Drew And what pill are you on?

10:12 I am actually on the patch.

10:15 Drew Has that made this worse or better?

10:18 Oh, kind of worse.

10:20 Drew Yeah, usually that's an estrogen effect. And being on more estrogen with the patch will make it worse. You might want to talk to your doctor by going on a progesterone predominant pill or a shot. And that kind of dries things up a bit.

10:33 Adam Getting on birth control, good thing. Getting put on birth control, bad.

10:37 Drew Why were you put on birth control?

10:40 Well, my mom wanted me to go on it.

10:44 Drew Because?

10:45 Just because when my sister was my age, she did too. Just for like dermatologist stuff.

10:55 Drew Let me translate. Mom was...

10:57 Adam Mom pregnant at 13?

10:59 No.

10:59 Drew Or nearly.

11:00 Adam You're 17, your mom's 21.

11:03 Caller Well, actually at that age, I had a boyfriend and I talked to her. And so I asked her if I could go on it. So I could.

11:11 Drew So your mom's just enlightened then. Your mom's good.

11:13 Adam Is your dad around?

11:14 Caller Yes.

11:15 Adam He is?

11:16 Caller Yep.

11:17 Adam Biological?

11:18 Drew No, no, I don't get any problems.

11:19 Adam Just checking. Just checking.

11:20 Drew This all sounds good to me. All right.

11:22 Adam All right. Everything's good.

11:24 Caller Yeah. All right. But the reason I...

11:27 Adam I'm not going to put my kid on birth control. I'm just going to start working at estrogen or whatever.

11:32 Drew In the stereos?

11:33 Adam Sunny D, whatever she's on at the time.

11:36 Drew Why not? Why not?

11:37 Adam All of a sudden I see my boy walking by with man boobs. What the? What are you doing? What are you doing?

11:43 I told you it's the live of the Sunday D.

11:46 Adam It's like, what's the big deal? Don't worry about it. Drew, what could I do? Could you do that?

11:52 Drew No. No.

11:53 Adam You could do something. You could do something pretty close.

11:56 Drew Just give her the shot. Give her the depot shot.

11:59 Adam But how do I do that without her knowing?

12:01 Drew It's OK. Just tell her it's a vitamin shot.

12:04 Adam OK.

12:04 Drew There you go.

12:06 Adam Honey, you're so short. I'm 5'11. I know. You're not even 6 and you're 14. Now come on. Roll that sleeve up.

12:13 Drew You've been growing so much. You need an extra vitamin shot.

12:15 Adam Yeah.

12:16 Drew All right, Laurie, what was your question?

12:19 Caller Oh, my question about that was if that's a problem or if that's something I should really be worrying about because I'm like, OK.

12:26 Drew No. If they would have told you that at your exams, if there was a problem.

12:30 Adam Oh, furry.

12:32 Drew I can see what that is.

12:34 Adam You know what a furry is?

12:35 Drew Yeah. It's a giant stuffed animal person.

12:39 Adam Yeah. What's your real name?

12:41 My name is Nick.

12:42 Adam Nick. All right.

12:44 Yeah.

12:45 Adam You're 19.

12:46 Caller Yes, I am.

12:47 Adam You're a furry.

12:48 Caller Yes.

12:49 Adam This is stuffed animals. People dress like stuffed animals, right?

12:53 Caller Or predominantly, yes. There's there's a certain section of people that do that, but not all of us do.

13:00 Adam What do you do? How do you get to be a furry? Otherwise?

13:03 Caller To be a furry, in my opinion, you just have to have a liking for cartoon characters, and well, a little bit more than a liking, a sexualization of cartoon characters, mainly animals.

13:18 Fall Out Boy My first crush ever was Chitara from The Thundercats.

13:22 Adam Oh, really?

13:23 Fall Out Boy Yeah. She was really fast.

13:24 Adam She was the sheer lord of the jungle myself. I may be dating myself, but the way they drew that loincloth on me was hot.

13:31 Fall Out Boy Tila from He-Man. She was hot, too.

13:32 Adam Yeah, she was He-Man. By the way, He-Man, a gayer name for a hero? That must have been from overseas or something.

13:41 Fall Out Boy Yeah. Do you see what he wears when he's not He-Man, where he wears the all purple, like, Prince Adam? Prince Adam. Prince Adam.

13:49 Adam I really do think a lot of that stuff's just from overseas and that's their version of what we would.

13:54 Drew Yeah, or it's their version and we translated poorly.

13:58 Adam I was at a miniature golf place once and saw a video game called Violence Fight.

14:01 Drew Yeah.

14:02 Adam And that's when I realized, no round eye came up with this title. Why don't they ever just check off on that stuff? You know what I mean? If it's coming from overseas, find one guy who speaks English who can tell you that Violence Fight's a little redundant. He-Man, kind of not really working, and not a great name. You know what I'm saying? You don't know one white guy?

14:23 Drew I lived here in the 50s, been in Japan ever since.

14:25 Fall Out Boy You've got to wonder what names were rejected, if He-Man's the one they had to talk to.

14:29 Adam That's fine. Swift?

14:32 Caller Yes.

14:33 Adam Alright, or Jack or whatever. Nick. Question.

14:37 Drew Question.

14:39 Caller I was wondering if you can have fetishes from birth, because the more that I talk to people online that have the same fetish that I do, the more I hear that they've enjoyed animals more than humans, previous to hitting puberty or knowing what sex is. They've always preferred to be animals during Halloween, and they've always enjoyed books where anthropomorphic characters are the main character.

15:05 Drew Don't confuse what happens in the first few years of life because of environmental influences with what you were born with. You know what I'm saying? You're born basically with predispositions, and then the environment does its work.

15:19 Adam Would you have a predisposition to this? You think you'd be born that way? One would hope not. One would own, God, a nice swift kick in the side.

15:30 Drew I mean, there must be some predisposition of some type, but undoubtedly this is predominantly something in the first five years of life.

15:37 Adam Well, it would be one more thing to test for during the amnio. It really would. So we could get ready. Nick?

15:43 Caller Yes.

15:44 Drew You don't have lots of clear memories before age three, and that's really when this kind of thing gets set up.

15:50 Adam What kind of environment did you grow up in?

15:54 Caller Lower middle class environment. My parents are still here. That's very nice. I've got a really weird family dynamic going. My dad's a substance abuser, and my mom is, well, I think she's just a little nut.

16:09 Adam An exodermist.

16:11 Drew Yeah, well, I was looking at some dad the other day that was showing how when a mom's stress hormones go up, and this happens to other primates, so you can measure in saliva what's happening to the stress hormones. And mom freaks out, the child will, even if the child is not in direct contact, the child will go up with the mothers. That's how attuned children are to the mom.

16:29 Adam Even if they're not in the room that the mom is having the tantrum?

16:32 Drew No, no, no, but even if they're not directly involved with it, if they're just nearby, and an infant child, young children, they have an exact replication of the mom's stress levels. And unfortunately, an infant's brain is forming. When those stress influences come in, it changes the way the brain forms. If you happen to be in a transitional period when you've got attachments to transitional objects like animals or blankets or something, and things are sort of extremely chaotic, you might see clearly retreat into that. Yeah, it could be an interesting kind of wiring that was set up.

17:08 Adam Hmm.

17:08 Drew Just theoretical.

17:09 Adam Hmm. I did transition from the Huggy Boogie to the Jack Rack. I wonder if that means... It was not a smooth one, I must say. Many a hurdle.

17:22 Drew I don't think the furries are as brutal to their furry...

17:25 Adam Oh, I see, yeah...

17:26 Drew .exteriors as you are to the Jack Rack.

17:27 Adam Yeah, all right, I hear it.

17:28 Drew The Jack Rack, you have to take a hammer to it regularly.

17:30 Fall Out Boy I don't get it. Do you wear the suit when you do it?

17:33 Adam Well, he doesn't...

17:34 Drew I think there's all kinds of versions of it, really.

17:36 Adam Here's the deal. The boring version of everything calls this show, like the person, Oh, I'm a wiccan. Oh, yeah. What do you do? Do you do the potions? And no, no, I'm not that kind of wiccan. We have an outfit or pointy head. No, no. Do you believe in? No, I'm a Christian. OK, I have three kids. I work the post office.

17:56 Drew I call myself wiccan.

17:57 Adam OK, give us a good one. I want the good one. We never get the good one.

18:00 Fall Out Boy I'm a vampire. I kill people and drink their blood.

18:02 Adam That's what I want.

18:04 Drew That's what I'm talking about. So Nick, how does this whole thing work? This fetish?

18:08 Caller Well, for me, I often I have a girlfriend and she wears a dog collar and leash. Well, I have these fake fur paws that I wear that go up to my shoulders. And I also have two tails. One of them is a real fox tail and the other one is a prosthetic lion tail that kind of hangs on my belt.

18:31 Drew And you have sex with this stuff on?

18:34 Caller Oh yeah, quite regularly.

18:36 Drew And what does it do for you?

18:38 Caller I just think it's fricking hot.

18:41 Drew Well, who wouldn't?

18:44 Adam Nick, you sound gayish.

18:47 Caller Yeah, I'm bisexual.

18:49 Adam No, no, we're going gay. We're going gay.

18:53 Drew Yeah.

18:54 Adam But, yeah, I wanted to say, we can lose the beard and just move on.

19:00 Drew We'll have to pause.

19:01 Adam Lose the pause, lose the tail and lose the beard, whatever her name is. And let's move forward in life, that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying the kind of beard he straps on.

19:09 Fall Out Boy Yeah, yeah.

19:11 Adam You know what I'm saying?

19:12 Caller I understand what you're saying.

19:13 Adam All right, I wanna give, here's what I'm saying. I wanna give all gay men the green light to move on to homosexuality.

19:20 Drew Right, I know.

19:21 Adam I feel like a lot of them are just sort of clinging to it as this sort of way. It's that sort of, you know what it is? It's equivalent to junior college for the guys, a horrible student. They like to hang in. So, you know, it's like when the folks are the, you know what it is? Here's what it is. When your friends, when your folks' friends ask you what's going on, you can still say, I'm going to college for taking some class. I'm looking at transferring. They'll cling on to that for 10 years. And here's my girl, I'm bi. I'm going to junior college, I'm bi. No, you're gay and you're a horrible student. You should not go to either one of those things. That's the only thing. But you do it because it's like, it's nice. And then at a certain point you get comfortable enough to realize, I'm going to just work at a tattoo parlor and I'm going to blow a guy. And that's what I'm going to do.

20:01 Drew Two things. I've found that most of the furry types that I have spoken to, the men, seem to me to be gay. And secondly, I forgot my second point.

20:11 Adam All right, well your first was so powerful.

20:13 Drew Yeah, who had overwhelmed everything.

20:16 Adam Yeah, I'm just saying go ahead and be bi. I mean go ahead and be gay if you're bi. Thank you, threw me off too. Yeah, guys can do that. Women I think can hang on to it.

20:25 Drew Oh, they go, yeah, they're much more flexible. Much more flexible.

20:28 Adam Much more.

20:29 Drew But guys, I know what it was. I don't understand, knowing how we all know how guys' sex drive is, once they declare their preference, how do you get them to sort of shroud that in anything else? You know what I mean?

20:41 Adam Right.

20:41 Drew Because men are so driven, how do you get them to don the paws and the tails and stuff, and that makes, that diverts them from the penile?

20:50 Fall Out Boy I get in trouble for keeping my shirt on.

20:51 Fall Out Boy So.

20:53 You know what I'm saying?

20:54 Adam Dressing up like a fox, yeah.

20:55 Drew That doesn't make sense to me. I quite understand that.

20:58 Adam Well, as we've established a long time ago, if it doesn't make sense to us, it's wrong.

21:02 Quite wrong.

21:03 Adam It needs to be stopped.

21:04 Drew So go ahead and declare again. Give everyone the green light.

21:07 Adam I had an interesting thought. I was watching Oprah this morning. Whoa.

21:11 Fall Out Boy I know.

21:13 Adam It's a little bit of a...

21:13 Drew You've been drinking that Sunny D?

21:15 Adam A little bit of a rum. That's kind of a chalky flavor to it. The weird substance at the bottom. I'm going to shake that before I use it. I was watching some. My wife likes Oprah. She makes me watch it with her Sunday morning. But I just dissect it like game film, explaining what's wrong and why Oprah's this and that.

21:38 Drew I hope you educate your wife accordingly.

21:41 Adam Yes, I do, but she doesn't listen anymore. The model I'm on came on, David Bowie's wife. It's always shockingly, she wrote a beauty book for women of color. Because women of color, somehow someone makes this proclamation every 10 minutes that women of color haven't figured out how to put on eyeliner yet. You know what I mean? It's important that we and everyone just is a lot of head nodding. If you look around at the ladies of color, seems to be plenty going on. Plenty going on in the makeup department. It's not like they've never seen Kissing Potion before. They should give Whitey a couple of tips on that. But she writes the book for the women of color. And Oprah's up there. Because when you're a hot chick, you need to write a book on what it's like to be hot.

22:27 Drew Because everyone needs to transform into you. If she just knew if she could transfer that information to the women, they'd all look like her.

22:33 Adam Iman does the standard hot chick thing when Oprah starts off with what makes a woman beautiful and it comes from within. It's really the way you feel. You can't be beautiful if you don't feel beautiful. Which I would argue, you can be dead and be hot if you're hot. Feel anything. That's just the way it is. Any smoking hot chick who dies is still hot for a good three or four days. Yeah, she feels nothing. She feels a rat crawling around her and doesn't move. Still hot. Now, I was thinking, so she does that thing that all hot chicks do about ugly chicks. They're like, hey man, if you feel beautiful, you're beautiful, which makes zero sense because if you got a fat ass, it doesn't matter what you, you're just delusional if you feel hot. But that's what we say, right? Once in a while, there is a chick with a fat ass and a bent nose and she's like, oh yeah, I'm hot, I'm beautiful. And everyone's like, honey, please, you are butt ugly. So we won't even accept it in society. Imagine if all the ugly chicks just started going, oh no, I'm beautiful because I feel beautiful. Everyone would just smack them down. So, but here's what I realized. They always do that with chicks. They always do it with chicks. They never say it about a dude. They never go, when a man feels beautiful, because obviously if a guy's balding and has, you know, 10 feet of crack hanging out his ass, they're not like, oh, he's beautiful because he feels beautiful.

23:57 Drew They're telling me better work on his work.

23:59 Adam Yeah, you're real. Right, so I thought about it though, and I thought it is more true for a guy, because here's the deal with a guy. A guy can be unattractive, have a ton of confidence, feel hot and still nail hot chicks, because he carries himself a certain way.

24:16 Drew Maybe that's where they get that idea, because they're reacting to, goop, yes, that's it.

24:22 Adam Huzzah, I say. No, it's a good point.

24:25 Drew Because they always project onto men what they feel about themselves. Therefore, the men would react to you the way they react to men, which is not the case.

24:32 Fall Out Boy I got some ugly friends at the door, right?

24:34 Adam That's what it is. We all know the guy who is nothing in the looks department, but has tons of confidence, tons of style, tons of attitude, and nails hot chicks left and right. There's no version of that. It's like, oh, that super dumpy chick over there with the cellulite all over her ass, she feels great about herself. I'm going to go down on her. No, doesn't exist. It's the opposite. Doesn't exist with women, does exist with men.

25:03 Drew So therefore women assume it should exist for men on behalf of women.

25:07 Adam It's a good point because they buy into the crap on behalf of guys.

25:10 Drew No, they respond to different things.

25:12 Adam They buy into it. I mean, that's what draws them in.

25:15 Drew Yeah.

25:16 Adam Wow. Yeah. But why does every single hot chick have to start with, it's how you feel?

25:22 Fall Out Boy Well, then they always say like, oh yeah, I can totally relate to being overweight. You know, once in my modeling career, this one photographer told me that I need to drop like three ounces.

25:33 Fall Out Boy Why do hot chicks feel they need to write books in general? Like, oh, you're hot, but I want to read your book. I need to know what you think about yourself.

25:39 Drew Thank you.

25:40 Adam The one we're laughing at was in an airport in Cincinnati. I was like Claudia Schiffer, somebody wrote a book and it was like, here's what I used to eat. I used to eat nothing but junk food and now here's what I eat and here's what you should eat. And here's what I look like. You were a little hotter when you just were eating the Mickey D's. So what's your message? When you were doing the blow?

26:02 Drew You were three years younger.

26:03 Adam And eating the famous stars? You were hotter. So what are you talking about? All right. It's just models. Quit writing books, would you? Or actually, it's asking models to stop writing books is like asking attorneys to stop sewing. Stop going to people and trying to get legal counsel for BS. And here's what I'm saying.

26:23 Drew Stop reading.

26:24 Adam Stop picking up model books.

26:25 Drew Stop watching talk shows and have those people.

26:27 Adam Stop it, everybody. There's nothing in that. You're just going to feel worse. Leave it alone. Here's what I say to all the supermodels. Shut up and take your pants off, bitch. Get down in your underpants and shut up. Please shut your pie hole. Take your heroin, get in your underpants and start making and being. Shake that ass. Let me take a picture of you and beat off.

26:50 Drew Now shut up. Oh my God.

26:53 Adam Well, I'm just tired of them writing books.

26:54 Drew Whoa. When was that? I don't remember that.

26:58 Adam It was off the air.

26:59 Drew Oh yeah, I guess. I guess. It was the bathroom, I guess. It was the john.

27:03 Adam Yeah, it was where Cloddy Schiffer was in.

27:04 Drew Oh, that's right.

27:05 Adam Amp's just let the mics roll during the break. Well, Fall Out Boy in the studio tonight will take a quick break. Be right back after this.

27:13 Caller You have five seconds.

27:19 Drew Back in a minute.

27:24 Adam Here's what I got to say to all the supermodels. Shut up! Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191-ER. Patrick and Pete here tonight from Fall Out Boy. They're going to be Friday night or late Thursday night. Going to be on that last call with Carson Daly. Also certified platinum, by the way, from Under the Cork Tree. Name of the CD. We're going to hear something off that. I think what we'll do is we'll take a call and then hear a song.

28:13 Caller Sure.

28:13 Adam Yeah. All right. Nancy?

28:17 Caller Yeah.

28:18 Adam What's up?

28:20 Caller Well, I've been married for almost two years. And lately, my husband, he just left. He up and left. And I hadn't seen him for about a month. And he showed up in my life again, like after a month, called. Because we have a child together.

28:35 Adam Yeah. Hold on. Nobody under 50 should say up and left or done left. You know what I mean?

28:41 He did, though.

28:42 Caller I mean, like he didn't.

28:43 Adam Yeah, he left.

28:45 Caller Yeah, he didn't leave me an address.

28:46 Nothing.

28:46 Caller I mean, for all I know, he was dead. He went to work.

28:49 He never came home.

28:50 Drew That's even doing drugs.

28:52 Caller No, he works in the oil fields and they do a focal hair test on him.

28:56 And his his job is his life.

29:00 Adam Works in the oil fields and they do drug testing.

29:03 Yeah, so it's not drugs.

29:05 Drew Well, now wait a minute. Was he working during that month?

29:08 Caller Oh, he's been working for, yeah, for about six months now.

29:13 Drew But during the time that he had up and left, he was still working?

29:16 Yes.

29:17 Adam Yeah, because they had him up and peeing a cup.

29:19 Drew Yeah, or they took his hair.

29:22 Caller No, they take his hair.

29:23 Adam Take his hair. All right. They up and took his hair. All right.

29:27 Yeah.

29:28 Caller So he left and then he came back.

29:30 He called.

29:30 Caller He said he wanted to see the kids. Well, he came by and I let him see because then he stole from me.

29:36 Adam Hold on a second. I'm going to try this one more time, Drew.

29:41 Drew I think this is true.

29:42 Adam I have pretty good instincts. I've been O for 55 in this department. But Oilfields, Bakerfield, the guy up and left, drug testing, he wanted to see the kid. Nancy, you're Jewish, yes?

29:54 Drew No.

29:55 Adam No, I can't believe it.

29:56 Drew How can that be?

29:57 Adam I can't believe it.

29:59 Caller No way.

30:00 Adam The guy works in the Oilfields, you're married, you have a kid, he calls the kid the kid, and he up and left, and you're not Jews.

30:08 Caller No. No.

30:10 Adam You know, just when you think you know everything through. That's why-

30:12 Drew Are you a Mormon?

30:14 Caller Am I what?

30:15 Adam Listen, hold on. This is why you can never assume you just, and you can't profile, because you just don't know. Just when everything seems to fit together, just when everything seems to fit together, and the Jew just comes screaming out at you, turns out not Jewish, even from Bakersfield.

30:29 Drew How could that be?

30:31 Adam That's why you cannot judge. That's the message.

30:33 Drew I get that.

30:34 Adam That's the message. That's the message I'm trying to send to people.

30:36 Drew If it's a perfect profile, what are you gonna do?

30:37 Adam You cannot profile. You can't. I don't care if you're a profiler with the FBI, you can't profile.

30:43 Drew Of course.

30:44 Adam You cannot.

30:45 Drew Those are evil people.

30:46 Adam Yeah, you gotta be evil. Yes, you can't.

30:48 Fall Out Boy That's why it feels bad when someone gets you exact. Yeah, I've had that happen to me before. Well, I'm first meeting like, are you dissect music in a mathematical way, don't you? Well, I must be the most boring person you've ever met.

31:01 Adam Well, it was on your hand or something. Hey, Nancy.

31:05 Caller Yeah.

31:08 Adam So now he up and came back?

31:10 Caller He came back out of nowhere.

31:13 Drew What was his explanation for his departure?

31:15 Caller He wanted to see my son.

31:16 Drew What was his explanation for leaving?

31:19 Adam Yeah, the departure is where you leave.

31:20 Caller He couldn't take our arguing.

31:24 Adam Okay. How would you like to go to the airport with Nancy? Above arrival. No, the part. You're going to the arrivals.

31:31 Drew Let's go to the airplane station.

31:35 Adam All right. So you guys were arguing a lot.

31:38 Caller Well, we didn't argue a lot, but when we did argue, it was bad. I mean, before he left, earlier that month, he hurt my arm and he went to jail. And I bailed him out, as stupid as it sounds. And two days after I bailed him out, he just took off in the car and never came home. Well, a month later, he shows up.

31:57 Drew By the way, Nancy, that's why I split.

31:59 Adam Nancy, there's a little part where he got arrested when you called the cops.

32:03 Drew Yeah. Cause and effect. You can't see a relationship there between violence in the home, him being jailed, and then he takes off. That sort of, now things make sense. Or do you go through life where things that happen in the moment have no relation to anything in the past? Things just happen spontaneously. There's no cause and effect.

32:21 Adam Well, that's when you're stupid, by the way. You become like a superstitious native. And then when the volcano goes off, it's because... Yeah, God was angry and one of the guys farted the day before and now you have to throw him into the volcano in order to appease the... You don't think so.

32:39 Drew I don't even think she could even get that far into cause and effect.

32:42 Adam But here's the thing. Nance, I think some of our callers don't want to tell us things that don't sound great on their resume. So it gets confusing. You're like...

32:52 Drew It's denial.

32:53 Adam Yeah, but they call them. They're like, I have a herpetic lesion on my penis. And like, did you have unprotected sex? No, I didn't. And then 20 minutes later, find out they didn't. They weren't wearing a condom.

33:06 Drew Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

33:07 Adam Well, because it's not great sounding. But meanwhile, we just get confused because we can't figure out why your husband up and left for no reason.

33:14 Drew In my world, we call that obfuscation. And when there's obfuscation, there's drugs and alcohol. All right.

33:19 Adam So they got into a blowout.

33:21 Drew And somebody was drinking. I guarantee you somebody was drinking.

33:23 Adam And she called the cops, which is fine. And they arrested him because he battered her. And that's why he got out and he left.

33:31 Drew Who was drinking the night that he hurt your arm?

33:34 Caller Nobody was drinking. Actually, nobody was drinking. He had some serious anger issues, like really.

33:41 Adam All right. Why did you marry the guy?

33:43 Caller Well, because he wouldn't like this. And they never are. And he just started getting this way after I had my son, like angry all the time because he didn't want to take care of him. All he wanted to do when he got this job in the oil fields was work. I mean, he listened to the guys out there and he was never home. And when he was home, all he did was sleep and do nothing.

34:06 Adam All right. How about you not crap out any more kids? Could you do that?

34:11 Caller I can't.

34:12 And it's not right on.

34:13 Caller It's not my kids. Believe me, I take good care of my kids.

34:17 Drew Kids?

34:18 Caller I have two. I had one before.

34:21 Drew Of course, by somebody else.

34:22 Adam Not at you.

34:23 Drew Not at you. Hard to believe.

34:26 Adam You had a kid from somebody else before this?

34:29 Caller Yes.

34:29 Adam Yeah. Where's that guy?

34:32 Caller He wasn't a part of her life. It's been his. He found out I was pregnant.

34:37 Adam No, nobody wants to tap into their own rhythms or mistakes at all. You want to just cramp out a kid with one A-hole, move on to the next, and cramp out a second kid still in your teens.

34:47 Drew By the way, not a good mom doing that. Oh, no.

34:50 Adam Nancy, you're a great mom. You're an awesome mom. You just hang around abusive guys and have these huge fights in front of the kids and people go to jail, and the Child Protective Services come to the front door, but you're an awesome mother. Awesome. Awesome. Don't let anyone tell you're not an awesome mother. See, that's the whole thing, everybody. You loving your kid doesn't make you a great mom. You being a great mom makes you a great mom. No, I'm taking good care.

35:14 Drew Taking good care is the minimum requirement of being a human being with kids. So meeting the minimum requirement does not make you a great parent.

35:24 Adam Well, and also, here's the thing. If you can't be a great parent and be in a relationship where you guys are having blowouts.

35:32 Drew That's traumatic for the kids. That's traumatizing your children.

35:35 Adam Right. What's that?

35:38 Caller We didn't, we never gotten into fish fights. This is the first time that ever happened. We don't have our kids.

35:45 Drew You never got into it except for this time. Yeah.

35:47 Caller That's true.

35:48 Drew Nancy. Nancy. Only takes one time.

35:51 Adam Just this time.

35:52 Drew One time traumatizes your kids. Look, it doesn't.

35:55 Adam Okay. Look, here's the thing. We won't call anyone stupid in this society. We'll call a lot of people smart, but no one's stupid. Now, I'm doing the math. It's like saying everyone had a winning record in the NFL. It doesn't work out mathematically. Not everyone can be 12 and four at the end of the year. It can't all be. It'd be awesome if they were, but there needs to be a few teams that win four and lose 12. That's the way it goes. I'm guessing Nancy's well under 500 in the win-loss department. All I'm saying is, the first thing we need to do is establish that certain people are not smart enough to have kids for quite some time. Nancy would be one of them.

36:38 Drew Started at 18, 17.

36:39 Adam Well, they never get in anything physical. This is the only time they got in anything physical, I'm sure.

36:45 Fall Out Boy When you say it's the only, that means there's at least 10 times.

36:47 Drew But even if it were the only, that's not never.

36:51 Fall Out Boy I only did it once means yeah. Well, but I only did it once means 10.

36:54 Fall Out Boy That's a pretty good record, I guess.

36:55 Adam All right. Nancy, this guy's a bad guy. I'm glad you got your tubes tied. That is an awesome thing.

37:02 Caller Now my kids have nothing to do with the question I was gonna ask you.

37:06 Adam Doesn't matter.

37:07 Fall Out Boy I'd recommend getting out of Bakersfield, California. Every person I've ever met there is on Crystal Meth.

37:11 Drew Right?

37:12 Fall Out Boy We played there and it's insane.

37:13 Drew By the way, I smell meth on this guy like you can't believe. I don't know how he's getting around the hair test, but I smell meth here. Be that as it may, of course he wants to have sex. He's a guy and he's still married to you. He doesn't want to have a relationship.

37:23 Adam If they're taking it off the very far part of the mullet, will it still test positive? You know what I mean? They go high up on the mullet, closer to the skin cells and the hair follicles. I think they're cautious.

37:35 Fall Out Boy I don't know.

37:36 Drew I think they go for the bang part.

37:37 Adam I bet he's got like a six stage mullet where by the time he gets to the end, it's just pristine. It's like baby's hair. There's nothing. It's just his original hair.

37:50 Drew His parents no doubt gave him a mullet. I mean, it's only 20.

37:53 Adam Original mullet. Yeah. I mean, if they carbon date that hair, eight months.

37:58 Drew You see parents do that to their kids all the time.

38:00 Adam Oh, I see it. Yeah. For me, when I'm in charge, grounds for taking the kid away.

38:05 Drew Oh, yeah.

38:06 Adam See that kid with the mullet? That kid? Or even the mohawk. I don't like you trying to do anything with your kid. You know that move? Yeah. Even the Mexican kids who got the piercing in like four days. Little girl with the little earrings. Yeah.

38:20 Caller She's hot.

38:22 Adam Oh, your daughter's hot.

38:24 Hot earring.

38:25 Adam Yeah, I mean, I'll get my daughter clampons, but I will not actually pierce the, you know, give them the big grandma clampons in like four months. But I won't put a hole in the ear. It's going to be awesome for the kid to get in this whining, get in the thing, get the shot in the air. Not even a test. All right, let's hear a song.

38:41 Drew Let's do it.

38:42 Adam What happened? Oh, now we're too late? Stupid callers. All right, Fall Out Boy and Stu tonight. We're going to hear a song when we come back. We'll be back after this.

38:55 Caller Call on the 1-800-LOVES-191.

39:21 Adam Yeah, Loveline, everybody. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, Fall Out Boy. In studio tonight, Patrick and Pete, both here representing from Under the Cork Tree, Name of the CD. I think we should just go ahead and hear something.

39:35 Drew Let's do.

39:39 Adam You ready to go there, Michelle? This one's called Sugar, We're Going Down. Yeah, fallout point. We bumped in with Fall Out Boy and bumped out with the actual song. Band is going to be on the Carson Dazer, Last Call, Carson Daly, on Thursday night, we'll say, and also from Under the Cork Trees, name of the CD. We'll take a call. All right. Take a band question. Cassandra?

43:45 Caller Hi.

43:46 Adam What's up?

43:48 Caller I have a question for the band.

43:51 Hey.

43:52 Caller What are, what is Patrick and Pete going to dress up for for their show tomorrow?

44:00 Fall Out Boy It's funny that we had a question about furries because we're actually going as full mascot costumes tomorrow.

44:08 Drew Really? As furries. You know what's weird? I just watched Nightmare Before Christmas, first time in three years. What's on his forum? Oh yeah.

44:15 Fall Out Boy There you go.

44:16 Adam Wow. There he is.

44:17 Fall Out Boy I'm a little bit obsessed.

44:19 Drew Zero and Jack.

44:21 Fall Out Boy Oh, no.

44:22 Drew Oh, everybody's there. The mayor and everything.

44:24 Adam Wow. Fully sleeved. And it was funny is Drew came in talking about it like he was staring.

44:30 Drew I saw my Danny Elf. That's what made me talk about Danny Elf when we were talking about it.

44:33 Adam Yeah. Like you're staring at the arm. Bet you weren't.

44:35 Drew No.

44:36 Adam Wow.

44:38 Drew I really watched that film for an hour before I got here.

44:41 Adam The great magnet strikes again.

44:43 Fall Out Boy Powerful.

44:44 Adam They're not monkey with the great magnet.

44:46 Fall Out Boy We're obsessed with that Danny Elfman too. Really?

44:48 Fall Out Boy Yeah. No. For real. That's why I thought it was funny you brought him up because we've actually.

44:52 Drew I had no idea.

44:53 Adam You're like, oh, Drew, write your bio. Yeah.

44:56 Drew We guys were a little bit critical too. You're like, hey, you know.

44:58 Fall Out Boy No, no, no.

45:00 Fall Out Boy Here's the thing.

45:00 Fall Out Boy We're fans enough that we can we can like, you know, analyze it. Yeah.

45:04 Drew Did I pick the right, the Pee-Wee's Big Adventure?

45:06 Fall Out Boy Yeah, that's huge.

45:07 Fall Out Boy Yeah, that's awesome.

45:08 Fall Out Boy Definitely good call.

45:09 Adam Yeah. It's a good gig if you can get it too.

45:11 Drew Have I ever mentioned Danny Elfman in 10 years? Still shaking her head?

45:15 Adam No.

45:16 Drew Where does that?

45:17 Adam There is definitely forces. You know what it is, is I don't really think there's forces at work. I just think people can operate on different levels that we're not so aware of.

45:30 Fall Out Boy It makes me trust every answer you give out on that, where you're like, how did you pull that out? He has three questions that seem so random and then just nail it.

45:39 Drew That's weird stuff. Yeah, I freaked my own ass out after that, because you learn to trust your own instincts on things. You're following people's feelings.

45:47 Adam All right, let's talk to Nikki. Nikki?

45:50 Caller Yeah.

45:51 Adam 19, rather have sex with strangers than with guys she knows and likes.

45:57 Caller That would be me.

45:58 Adam It's usually an intimacy thing. Is your dad around?

46:02 He is, but he wasn't around when I was growing up.

46:05 Drew There you go.

46:06 Adam That's it.

46:06 Drew That's what does that.

46:07 Adam So you don't want to get connected.

46:09 Yeah, I think that's probably it.

46:12 Drew Well, it's not as if Adam magically or randomly brought up that issue. That's of course the issue when people behave like this. And it's a fear of vulnerability, fear of getting close, fear of closeness of other people and no closer experience in being physically close. And then to detach from that is overwhelming. So you got to be with somebody. There's sort of two ways it works. One is you got to be with somebody you don't like or can't have. Therefore, you never get open to them in the first place. Or you wish somebody bad. And that sort of reinforces the internal split you have between your good self and your bad self. And your bad, only your bad self can feel sexual. I don't think that's really what's going on with you. It's really more that you can't be with somebody that is actually available.

46:51 Adam I get a little therapy, baby.

46:53 Drew Or just have a relationship. Go ahead and have a relationship. If I tell you what you really like, force yourself into something. Some guy gets kind of boring too.

47:00 Adam And by the way, do not make, stop making the proclamation that you can't be in a relationship or you can't do math or you can't fill in the blank. You keep making that announcement, then you just won't do it or you won't cry.

47:13 Fall Out Boy Don't sleep with the guy on the first day you meet him.

47:15 Adam I don't want to sound like an inspirational coffee mug, but everyone makes these proclamations. I can't do this. Oh, I don't do that. Or I don't eat. Just start doing it and shut up. Everyone just starts doing it and shut up. That's right. I swear. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. I don't know.

48:19 Yeah.

48:20 Adam Hey everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Patrick and Pete here tonight from Fall Out Boy. From under, I just want to say under, not from under. From under the cork tree, name of the CD. We'll hear something else off it in this hour. And where are we going?

48:40 Drew Going to Coles.

48:41 Adam Going to Coles.

48:42 Fall Out Boy All right.

48:44 Adam What's a cork tree look like?

48:45 Drew I was just wondering, is there a meaning to that?

48:47 Fall Out Boy It's like there's a book called The Story of Ferdinand. It's like a children's book and it's about this bull that's shy and won't fight. It's kind of a story of pacifism.

48:55 Adam Yeah.

48:56 Fall Out Boy He hangs out under a cork tree. That's the kind of tree it is.

48:57 Adam Oh, is that a cork tree? Yeah. Yeah, like it's a shade. Don't you know that story, Drew? It was made into an animated whatever.

49:03 Fall Out Boy Yeah, like Disney made it. You can't really find it.

49:05 Adam Yeah, Disney makes it. You ever saw that as a kid? It's a bull who doesn't, you know, he's a friendly bull. He doesn't want to gore anybody.

49:12 Drew I see.

49:13 Adam You know what I mean? Yeah, he's nice. He wants to hang out in the shade and relax.

49:17 Drew Nice.

49:18 Adam But I think they want him to...

49:19 Drew He still has a ring in his nose though, doesn't he?

49:21 Adam Yeah, he has a huge ring in his nose. Here's the thing. When you're a cow or a bull, like if you're a dude, you get the big ring in the nose, and if you're a chick, you get that bell. You know what I mean? Tough call for me. I think I go with the ring in the nose and the huge bell. Does a bell need to be that big on a cow? Does it need to be a full nine inches to weigh eight pounds? Couldn't it just be a smallish bell? You wouldn't hear the cow come in if it was small?

49:47 Fall Out Boy And that noise has got to be pretty taxing.

49:50 Adam What kind of range do we need on a cow as far as location? Okay.

49:57 Drew You're trying to round up cows?

49:59 Fall Out Boy Yeah.

50:00 Adam Yeah.

50:00 Okay.

50:01 Drew Yeah.

50:02 Adam So that bull, is that Ferdinand?

50:03 Fall Out Boy Yeah, Ferdinand the Bull.

50:04 Adam Like to hang around in a tree. Drew, you know what? You must have seen that at some point.

50:08 Drew I must have.

50:09 Adam Disney thing. Punch that up.

50:10 Drew I've got to have an image of a bull in my head.

50:12 Adam Yeah. It's a good looking bull. He could have done damage, but he was a pacifist. I like that.

50:17 Drew When they put that ring in. Watch out.

50:19 Adam I thank god you guys have named your elm after something that we've heard of or that makes sense. Cause normally you get a lot of these folks in here that, you know, call comic books, graphic novels. Yeah.

50:29 Fall Out Boy You got the wrong members of the band for that. Cause they exist.

50:32 Adam They're out there. But you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys name the elm, right? You didn't go for that. Like when people go like, so what does the ethos remula mean? The third book on the planet of Nebula. And the evil rulers are Tebos. It's like, ah, you're 33, buddy. What went wrong? He's an evil overlord. He rules the third Galactica. And he's, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now look, if this is actually, if this is actually, dude, I'm all ears. But if some other like-minded, Claude made this up and you bought into it, I'm not going along with you. That's the whole thing. If there actually is this galaxy that we're not aware of, and there's a commander Nebulos is an evil warlord who's using his factions to fight, I'm all ears, but this doesn't exist. You're talking about like it's something. And by the way, what if I just pick something I'm into and I just do my version of, there's this car that has boobs on it. Yeah. And it's free and it squirts milk at people. And there's this dude who's got huge guns, you know, big arms, and he's hung like a black rhino and he rides in this car and all the chicks worship him. And I'm like, yeah, car's half track, it's got a tank tread in the back.

51:57 Fall Out Boy I want to read this thing or hear this thing or see this thing or whatever it is.

52:01 Fall Out Boy Is that what you guys were looking at in the parking lot?

52:02 Adam I was just saying, you just get-

52:04 Drew Was he out there looking at us?

52:05 Adam Did you watch this?

52:05 Fall Out Boy We wanted to see that car, we wanted to see it too. This is what we want to see.

52:08 Fall Out Boy We want to see the car.

52:09 Adam I was just saying, I want to pick stuff I'm interested in and just make up a weird fairytale life about it and have these clods listen to me.

52:15 Drew Perfect.

52:16 Yeah, why not?

52:17 Adam If it happened, that's fine. If it doesn't happen, you understand?

52:22 Fall Out Boy It's just weird how some people do it and it's like, that dude's a loser who lives at home and he's 33. Then some people do it and you're like, he's got $10 million or $100 million and lives at Skywalker Ranch in San Francisco.

52:33 Adam Well, he's the guy selling it to the guy who wants to name him. True. Yes.

52:38 Drew I'm just writing like Clive Barker.

52:40 Adam I'm just saying, there was a time when after puberty, guys were a little bit ashamed of their love for comic books and all things fantasy and I'd like to get back to that.

52:53 Caller That's all.

52:54 Adam You know what I mean? You get good ass kicking if that fell out of your backpack, that kind of thing. Emerald?

53:02 Caller Yeah, hi.

53:03 Adam You're 19? What's going on?

53:08 Caller I don't know. When I have sex, if it's not really violent and really rough, it just doesn't do it for me.

53:17 Drew And so were you physically abused growing up?

53:19 Caller No.

53:21 Drew No?

53:22 Caller No.

53:22 It's not like even like being hit.

53:24 Caller It's like really hard stuff.

53:26 Drew Well, so here's where I'm going down that path is that, is that in order to feel arousal, you need high levels of stimulation and aggressive stimulation usually means that something happened that kind of, let's say, burned out that part of your brain, like you were around a lot of chaos or a lot of physical violence or physical violence was actually perpetrated on you. So now in order to be aroused, you have to have these very extra high levels of stimulation. Does that fit in any way?

53:54 Caller I don't know, maybe.

53:56 Drew What was it you saw or what happened?

53:59 Caller Nothing. I mean, I have a pretty normal family. I've got a mom, a dad, a brother. We're all pretty normal.

54:05 Adam Yeah. What do you do? Junior college?

54:09 Caller I'm working on getting a literary degree right now, yeah.

54:12 Adam From the junior college?

54:15 Yes, I go to.

54:17 Drew All right. Sac State.

54:19 Adam There's your prom. You go to junior college, right? Yes. All right. You got to get out of there. All your problems will magically melt away.

54:28 Drew Is there anything else?

54:30 Adam Zertros, the Impaler.

54:32 Drew Are you on medication?

54:35 Caller No.

54:36 Drew Is there anything else? I mean, you got to give us some help here. Why do you think it would be that you would need such high levels of stimulation in order to feel sexual?

54:43 Caller I have no clue.

54:44 Caller I just really enjoy it.

54:46 Drew And are you maybe overstating what it is you need? In other words, is it just aggression and somebody who is very manhandled to you? Or do you actually need to be aggressed against?

54:59 Caller I don't know. Anything from being manhandled, like knives, slaps, stuff like that.

55:05 Fall Out Boy Knives?

55:05 Drew That's insane.

55:06 Adam Hold on.

55:06 Fall Out Boy That's actually insane.

55:08 Adam Is there something? There's either there's a bogus quality. Yes, could be bogus.

55:12 Drew Or something happens you're not even remembering or talking about.

55:16 Adam What do you mean knives?

55:17 Fall Out Boy How would knives even be used?

55:19 Adam Yeah. Find that out. You mean you mean in these sort of rape simulations?

55:25 Caller Yeah.

55:26 Drew Or cutting?

55:27 Caller Rape.

55:28 I don't cut.

55:30 Fall Out Boy Do you get cut or threatened?

55:33 Caller Um, I don't know a little about like we always have a safe word. So if you like cuts too deep.

55:39 Drew Have you? Oh, cuts too deep. Wait a minute. Hold on.

55:41 Adam This is crazy.

55:42 Drew Sounds bogus.

55:43 Adam But let me say this. If I was one of those guys who was in the rape outfit, you know, like put the football helmet on and the shoulder pads and big mittens and everything and you go to the YMCA and you know, have there's 30 ballbusters there. I'll give them the knee to the groin and the chin and it's trying to stab the eyes and stuff. My deal would be, okay, fine. I'll let the girls beat the crap out of it. But if I get through, I get to rape. I mean, look, you want rape simulation? I'll give you rape simulation. Here's the deal. You will be fighting. This is, you understand this will be right. I get these big padded pants on.

56:20 Drew You gotta be motivated.

56:21 Adam What's the motivation? Oh, I get a granola bar at Six Sparks an hour. I think. No, no. What's in it for the ace man? And by the way, you want real world conditions? This is it. I'll put on the football helmet. I'll put on the oven mittens. I'll put the elbow pad. Do all that stuff. I won't be able to move like I normally move. And you get it all your licks and kicks. But if I can get there, I'm going to get some.

56:45 Caller That would be awesome.

56:49 Adam That would be an awesome policy. Just look, it's controversial, but we're pushing the envelope here. We're taking, we're stepping the training up.

56:56 Drew We want to have you really prepared for what could happen.

56:59 Adam Well, here's the thing. When they take, you know, when they're training those guys for special ops or green berets or something like that, and they do the interrogation simulation, they have some nice guys standing around, you know, when a tab relaxes. No, they have a guy really actually beating on them and sleep deprivation and tying their hands with wire and kicking the crap out of them, right?

57:18 Drew Yeah.

57:20 Adam All right.

57:20 Drew The Wonder Women tough.

57:22 Adam Because I love ladies, not because I'm interested in rape. I mentioned that. What happened? You ever been raped? Well, other than at the Y by the actual rape simulator guy, no, I've never actually been raped, but three times by that guy. You're making a little game out of it.

57:38 Drew So, Emeril.

57:39 Adam Yeah.

57:39 Drew Emeril.

57:41 Adam Are you writing any of this down? I got it.

57:43 Drew Jewel's gems.

57:44 Adam Jewel.

57:45 Yeah.

57:48 Drew Emeril, so now what you're really describing is not so much violence as experiences of powerlessness.

57:53 Caller Yeah.

57:54 Drew Were there experiences like that when you're growing up?

57:58 Caller Not really.

57:59 Drew When things were out of control? Did you have recurrent nightmares of any type?

58:04 Caller I have nightmares all the time, but not recurring.

58:07 Adam What about?

58:08 Drew What's the basic theme? Emeril's just evasive.

58:12 Caller Yeah.

58:12 Drew Well, what's the basic theme?

58:15 Caller I die.

58:17 Drew Okay. Well, so that's what this is all about. Something in your life gave you an experience of near death.

58:23 Adam Did you have a friend die when you were younger?

58:25 Drew No, she experienced it. We were experiencing this over and over again.

58:29 Adam Your kid and your friend die, so it's pretty freaky.

58:31 Drew It freaks you out. It makes you depressed. But this feeling of constant intrusive dreams about dying usually means you yourself were in harm's way at one time. And then to sexualize that further evidence of the same thing.

58:42 Adam Emeril, here's what I'm going to do. Either you're going to come up with something or I'm going to just hang up. I'll just hang up on you. So if you have anything, please tell us now.

58:51 Caller Wait, what? I'm sorry.

58:53 Caller Your line is kind of funny.

58:55 Adam If you were ever abused in any way, shape or form.

58:59 Drew Not even abused if you were in a robbery or a train accident or some catastrophe or something.

59:02 Adam If there's any kind of traumatic event from the past that you can think of, tell us or I'm going to hang up on you.

59:08 Caller My dad is a jerk. That's all I can think of.

59:11 Drew And what did he do to you? What was he like?

59:13 Caller He yells about everything.

59:16 Drew Did he ever get really out of control and scare you that you believe he might hurt you or somebody in your family?

59:21 Caller Yeah, he's like my mom all the time.

59:24 Drew There we go. There we go. Now, by the way, in the first opening seconds, when I said if you've witnessed violence in your home...

59:31 Adam My dad and mom are great. Everyone's great. I got a sister and a cat named Mr. Sox.

59:37 Drew But, Emberle, if you ever witnessed any violence, if any violence perpetrated, if anything in the home ever happened, they chaos...

59:41 Adam No, my dad and mom are awesome. Everyone's awesome.

59:44 Drew If anything can, it means that there's evidence that's strong that suggests something happened.

59:49 Adam Sox and my dad and my mom and Mr. Sox have a younger brother. Awesome.

59:53 Drew But, anything, anything at all, it just doesn't make sense.

59:56 Adam Well, he beat the crap out of my mom.

59:57 Drew Oh, okay. Repeatedly, and I had to watch. He's a jerk.

1:00:01 Adam All right, Emberle.

1:00:02 Caller It wasn't even like that.

1:00:04 Drew Yes, it was like that.

1:00:05 Adam Well, whatever it is. Look, here's the deal. Either your dad and whatever violence you witnessed at home sort of made you into this, or you're just a mess on your own. Either way, maybe you're just a mess on your own. No, no, I mean, people want to defend. Well, let it everyone.

1:00:20 Drew PTSD is all right.

1:00:21 Adam But everyone defend your screwed up families. Good. Your families were great. Your mess. Then it's your fault. Right. Now it's all your fault. Either way, you got to get some therapy and get out of junior college, would you? Who are you kidding? Stop wasting everyone's time. Would you please? You're a horrible student in high school. And that's why you're in junior high and junior college. No, you didn't. Anyone who got straight A's would have gone to real college.

1:00:49 Caller I can't afford real college right now.

1:00:52 Adam You can't afford not to go to college.

1:00:54 Caller I am going. I'm transferring next year to UC Santa Cruz.

1:00:57 Adam Never going to happen.

1:00:59 Caller By the way, too.

1:01:01 Adam All right. What is that? The Banana Slug?

1:01:03 Drew Yeah.

1:01:04 Adam What the hell? Who names their team the Banana Slugs? What kind of, how does that, don't you have to vote on these things?

1:01:12 Drew When you're super cool and antisocial.

1:01:15 Adam Oh, you go banana?

1:01:16 Drew You know that the man tell you how to have a.

1:01:18 Adam Interesting.

1:01:18 Drew Oh yeah, you're going to make something up.

1:01:20 Adam Well, I understand the part about being stone and coming up with a bad name, but the part about F you to the man, that's the part. Yeah, it's like, so they want to name the Knights or the Cougars or the Warriors.

1:01:34 Drew Or the Rams.

1:01:36 Adam Yeah, you want to even pick a bear or pick a gladiator. Yeah, we're going to call ourselves the Banana Slugs.

1:01:44 Drew That's right.

1:01:45 Adam You want to keep going? We're going to go with the Quimby's. You guys, we're going with Cornhole E's. E's, not ours. E's. Okay, you want to keep talking, man? We'll show you. Turn the entire school into a vagina. Okay? All right? Keep going, brother. Yeah.

1:02:04 Drew What do you think? What do you think? Where do you think that came from? That was supposed to be funny?

1:02:08 Adam I just thought it was a stupid name, but I never really got the sort of pacifist FU to the man.

1:02:14 Drew They were in the 60s, and there they were.

1:02:16 Adam Interesting.

1:02:18 Drew I think your mom would have picked that name for college team, right?

1:02:21 Adam She would have named her college team F. Whitey. The F. Whiteys have taken the field. Mascot. Oh my God. Yeah, I remember that mascot would have looked like. Oh boy. No, you're right. Yeah. When you're PO and you don't believe it's a good idea to name your team, the Proud Warriors, you have to name-

1:02:43 Drew You don't believe in competition.

1:02:44 Adam Right. Yeah, you go Banana Slug. Yeah, it's true.

1:02:47 Fall Out Boy Somebody had to have been stoned. There's no way.

1:02:49 Drew Oh, there's that too.

1:02:50 Fall Out Boy You know what it is?

1:02:50 Fall Out Boy It's the only, like, there are only two stoned dudes that voted. That's what it was. Was everybody else was like-

1:02:56 Drew Two stoned to vote. Two stoned to vote.

1:02:57 Fall Out Boy No, everyone else was like, yeah, two stoned. Everyone was like, ah, that's cool.

1:03:02 Fall Out Boy So it's the two dudes that had the joke. Like, oh, we're going to do the Banana Slugs. It's going to actually get a couple votes.

1:03:07 Adam Now, I think, I think, Cruz Ryan never thought about the F you to the man. Oh, yeah.

1:03:11 Fall Out Boy Tied with Bart Simpson.

1:03:12 Adam Yeah. What? Michelle, look that up. Find out what year you see Santa Cruz.

1:03:17 Drew I'm sure it's like 64 or something.

1:03:19 Adam Yeah. Well, it's definitely, there's no way that was founded in the 20s or 30s. It's a woman with Banana Slugs. No way.

1:03:26 Drew No way.

1:03:27 Adam No way. All right.

1:03:28 Drew It may be 70s.

1:03:30 Adam Ronnie?

1:03:31 Yeah.

1:03:32 Adam You're 22?

1:03:33 Caller 22.

1:03:34 Adam Ronnie, Ronnie Hot Chick Name. One of the names, you know, they always talk about the dude chick name. Occasionally it's just Stevie. 65. 65. Dead Nuts On. That's right. F you to the man. And here's the thing. The school could have been founded in 65. They may not even pick that name until the height of the whole thing. 69, whatever. Yeah. Check that out too. You Hot Ronnie?

1:04:03 Caller Um, I guess. I don't know. I've been told.

1:04:06 Adam Yeah, that's good enough.

1:04:10 Caller Oh, I don't know.

1:04:12 Adam Oh, multi-orgasmic?

1:04:15 Caller What?

1:04:15 Adam Ronnie, are you multi-orgasmic?

1:04:17 Caller What does that mean?

1:04:18 Adam It means you can have a lot of orgasms?

1:04:21 Caller Um, sometimes.

1:04:24 Adam Drew hears it. Drew heard it in your laugh.

1:04:28 Caller Hi, Drew.

1:04:29 Drew Hi, Ronnie.

1:04:30 Adam Yeah. So you can, you've had five orgasms?

1:04:34 Caller Yeah, I can say I have.

1:04:36 Adam Wow. Nice and hot, right?

1:04:39 Caller Yeah, I guess, yeah.

1:04:41 Adam It's hot. So what's the question?

1:04:43 Caller Well, my question is, I'm 22 and my husband's 22. We've been married a little bit over a year now. And when we first started dating, like, it was really hot and heavy. I mean, we've done role playing, we've done all kinds of stuff. But like, I don't know, lately, like the last, I would say three, four months, like all that's been dying down. And I don't know if it's because like he has his mindset that he's married. And I know he's kind of like an old man. No offense.

1:05:16 Drew He's just a man sort of settling into his rhythm is what it is.

1:05:20 Caller This is a pretty quiet guy in general.

1:05:22 Drew Yeah, you guys going to keep that stuff up.

1:05:24 Caller He opens up like in bed, like maybe it's just been like me.

1:05:29 Drew A lot of guys can only keep that kind of thing up for a while.

1:05:32 Fall Out Boy The cycles. Girls never know about the cycles.

1:05:35 Adam Yeah. Yeah. This is guy. Guys just do. Guys do this at the beginning. They're all game or for everything. They're, you know, yeah. And then later on, they just slide into a sort of lazy rhythm. There's a couple. There's a couple of things. First off, I think it'd be awesome if chicks did the role playing stuff with their husband and they're like, I'm going to play the Swedish au pair who's here to take care of the kids and who just got off the boat. And how about you play a guy who made a goddamn decent living for a change? Made more than $33K a year. Didn't have to borrow money from the in-laws in order to buy the Tahoe. How about you play that guy? That'd be awesome, though. But she could really ruin a guy.

1:06:22 Drew This reminds me of your story about your girlfriend asking you to say something nasty.

1:06:26 Adam Say something mean about her. Let's just say something nasty.

1:06:29 Drew Right.

1:06:29 Adam You bad told her I didn't like her mom.

1:06:32 Drew What?

1:06:32 Adam Well, that's the meanest thing I could think of at the time. But here's the thing. Guys, here's what guys do, ladies. We streamline. We're constantly looking for a faster way. Efficiency. If we're going to work, we try to find the fastest way to work, and if it's the same route, we will figure out ways to shave precious tenths of a second. We'll start timing signals. That's no good. This always backs up around between five and six. This is no good. Turn up on the side street and go backside. That's the gene we have. You ladies don't have that. This is why we do all the crap and you hang out and breastfeed the kids. You don't have the speed gene. We have the speed gene and that will eventually bleed into the relationship, into the sexual part of the relationship. We will attempt to streamline everything we do. Even if it's things we enjoy, you will try to figure out a way to eat something you enjoy faster than you ate at the time before, Drew. That's how you do it.

1:07:38 Drew It's more get to what you want. Get to what you're, the nuggets.

1:07:42 Adam Right, and here's what it is. We will go out to dinner, it's like this. On the first date, yeah, we'll pretend like we like the salad and the greens and the, a little sherbet to cleanse our palates. But by the 55th date, give us the meat. Give us the meat, cut the crap, give us the meat. Let's go, let's dig right in. No, I don't need a fork.

1:08:02 Caller I'm cool.

1:08:03 Adam That's how guys work. Now, the first date, you're actually pretending that you're into everything. Slow. Hmm, yeah, no, a little, I like to take the wine, I like to actually stir it around, like to swirl it and then get it to savor my nose. And then you just bust the bottle off after dumping it down. You throw it like a cartoon. That's what guys get into. And women want to know what happened to the foreplay. We are streamlining, ladies. We're making things more efficient in the bedroom, just like we are on the road.

1:08:31 Drew We also are not interested in pressing at a certain point. Yeah, yeah. Just getting into, you know.

1:08:36 Adam Well, that's the other thing, too. You don't care what the guy behind you or in front of you thinks of you when you're trying to shave a few minutes off that commute. You're just going to turn up and cut through that driveway. You don't care. That's the other thing, too. The streamlining mixed with, oh, who cares, we're married, is death to you guys in the sack.

1:08:56 Drew As I said, part of it is sort of getting rid of the other guy out of there. The previous guys?

1:09:00 Adam At the beginning.

1:09:00 Drew Getting them out. Yeah. What's he done that? Yeah.

1:09:04 Adam A new penis humps clean, I think is how they say it. Yeah. We want to do a better job than the last guy, and it's easy to do a better job than the last guy because he's at the phase we're going to be at in three years because you had a three year relationship. And so it's the most unfair thing to the guy because it's like, you know, my old guy, he didn't give me oral, he didn't hold my hand, he never looked in my eyes. The new guy, he spends, he takes his time, he tells me what he's thinking, he packs a picnic. Yeah, yeah. He will turn into the other guy. It's so unfair to compare those two guys. So unfair to compare the guy first day, the first day of work to the guy who's been at the company in the same mail room for four years without a promotion. So unfair to compare those two guys. Yeah. All right. Let's take a break. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

1:10:01 Caller Loveline, we'll be right back.

1:10:11 Adam Yeah, there, buddy, it's Loveline, man. That's Dr. Drew, Fall Out Boy in Studio Night. Patrick and Pete, both here representing. From under the cork tree. Michelle, find out about that bowl.

1:10:22 Drew Oh yeah, I never saw that.

1:10:24 Adam Yeah, find out about the...

1:10:25 Fall Out Boy She had it.

1:10:26 Adam Oh, Ferdinand and the bowl. Go look at it, Drew. It was a Disney cartoon. I don't think it was a full-length one.

1:10:32 Fall Out Boy No, it was like only like 10 minutes. We actually have it on DVD somewhere.

1:10:34 Adam It was good. Now we got a question for the band. Tim?

1:10:38 Fall Out Boy Yeah.

1:10:39 Adam 16. Yeah. Hey.

1:10:40 Fall Out Boy Yeah.

1:10:40 Fall Out Boy I have a question for Patrick.

1:10:42 Fall Out Boy Yeah. What's up, man?

1:10:43 Fall Out Boy I was wanting to know how, like whenever you got in a band, like did you always want to play guitar or what?

1:10:51 Fall Out Boy Actually, I always wanted to play guitar, but I didn't think I was very good at it, so I didn't try. Then we didn't have a guitar player, so I just kind of had to out of necessity.

1:10:59 Fall Out Boy Here's the news. You're all right at it.

1:11:02 Fall Out Boy Yeah, I was going to play guitar for our band, A Bloody Hero, but now I play the drums, so I was just wanting to know.

1:11:09 Fall Out Boy Hey, switch it up, man. It's cool. Yeah.

1:11:11 Adam I'm always amazed at guys who can sing and play the drums.

1:11:14 Fall Out Boy Yeah.

1:11:15 Fall Out Boy I always had the little Burger King mic on, you know, like...

1:11:18 Adam Yeah.

1:11:18 Fall Out Boy You want fries with that?

1:11:19 Adam It just seems like I would be, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, every time my foot hit the bass.

1:11:25 Fall Out Boy Yeah, I used to try and play drums and sing.

1:11:28 Fall Out Boy I think it takes away from one or the other usually. Yeah, it seems like. Phil Collins does it, but he gets up and hangs out a lot, kind of. He has the other guy drum sometimes.

1:11:35 Fall Out Boy Yeah, yeah, he does do that, and he has the dude solo, and you're like, you're faking it, man.

1:11:39 Adam I, that's the thing that's amazing about Dave Grohl, you know, it's like, man, just step, get behind the, from behind the kit, put the guitar on, and then just start rocking real hard.

1:11:50 Fall Out Boy He's really good at a lot of stuff. He bums out other musicians.

1:11:54 Adam I would be bummed out, too, if I was in a profession where...

1:11:57 Fall Out Boy Oh, dude, I'm pretty good at guitar, yeah, he's pretty good at a lot of stuff.

1:12:00 Adam Or the guy could just get from behind being a great drummer for a legendary band and just walk up front, put the guitar on, and start singing and have a great band that way, too.

1:12:08 Fall Out Boy Yeah, you get a complex.

1:12:09 Fall Out Boy Yeah, you definitely get a complex. That's where you're re-recording other people's stuff and that kind of...

1:12:13 Adam I would hurt him.

1:12:14 Fall Out Boy I would do it like that in Prince. You're like, yeah, I should do this, I guess. I don't know.

1:12:18 Adam I would hurt him. I would do a lot of things like...

1:12:21 Drew That's the only way to make things right in the world.

1:12:23 Adam You can see Kerrigan and Tony Harding, yeah.

1:12:24 Fall Out Boy Little break through little fingers.

1:12:25 Adam Get Jeff Gallulli to get like a pipe, a lead pipe.

1:12:29 Drew What happened to that guy?

1:12:30 Adam Lead pipe. He's a publicist. Jerry? Jerry, turn your radio down.

1:12:39 Caller How's it going?

1:12:40 Adam Well, what's up?

1:12:42 Caller I got a question for you about General Wartz. I had unprotected sex with this girl and then I found out that from a buddy that she had General Wartz and she found out or whatever. Anyway, the girl obviously is a bitch because she didn't tell me. I went and got tested or went to a Planned Parenthood and got tested. They told me that you can't test for male.

1:13:04 Drew I was going to say, how did they test you? There's really no test other than.

1:13:07 Caller She said she can give me like a physical examination or whatever, but I didn't have any and I checked myself out thoroughly.

1:13:12 Drew Well, there's actually, you can do what I did to Adam, which is you pour a quarter percent acetic acid over the penis and then look at it through a black light. And that the pre-wart lesions will sort of show up as little light areas.

1:13:24 Adam Yeah, if you have them.

1:13:25 Drew If you have them, which Adam's stunt penis did not. His actual penis does, but whatever.

1:13:31 Adam Silky smooth.

1:13:32 Drew Pristine.

1:13:32 Adam 100 bucks.

1:13:34 Caller Okay, well, I guess what my question is, is I, shortly after that, I was all paranoid. So I like totally shaved everything to like make sure I could see anything, you know, everything anyway. And I got some bumps afterwards, but I wasn't sure if those were shaving bumps.

1:13:49 Drew Well, Jerry, you listen, here's the deal. You're 21. So you and 50% of your peers have this virus. And you were exposed to it. So you should assume you carry it, even though you can't see the warts yet. And wear a condom diligently.

1:14:04 Adam What about the acetic acid thing?

1:14:06 Drew You can do that if you've got a woods light or a black light to check things out.

1:14:09 Adam Do yourself with some white vinegar, right?

1:14:12 Drew Just some white vinegar, yeah, basically.

1:14:14 Adam Well, so, if you have a black light and you have some white vinegar.

1:14:21 Drew Yeah, but they may not know what these things look like. You know what I mean?

1:14:23 Adam You might just be staring at some lint or dangle berries or something and go kill yourself.

1:14:28 Drew Dust bunnies in the crevices, I think.

1:14:30 Adam Well, but here's, okay, here's my question to you, Drew. If you think you were exposed to it.

1:14:37 Drew You should assume you haven't.

1:14:38 Adam You should assume you haven't, but if you think you were exposed to it and you haven't had a breakout and it's been, let's say, six months.

1:14:45 Drew If it's been three years, forget it.

1:14:47 Adam You don't have it.

1:14:48 Drew If you, you may have had it, but it's probably gone by then.

1:14:52 Adam Well, so you won't accept that you can have, you'll even say the person has it even if they never had a breakout.

1:14:57 Drew Correct.

1:14:57 Adam What about the Woods Light thing? What if you pass the Woods Light test? What if it's been a year, you've never had a breakout and you do the thing with the acetic acid in the Woods Light and there's nothing there.

1:15:10 Drew I don't know how to answer that with great accuracy. I think you're probably okay, but I can't say that with 100 percent accuracy.

1:15:16 Adam Yeah.

1:15:16 Drew Because the sort of prevailing wisdom is, if you've been exposed, you got it.

1:15:20 Adam Yeah. I think I was exposed to it once and I don't get it.

1:15:23 Drew That's what I'm saying.

1:15:24 Adam Well, you did the Woods line.

1:15:25 Drew Yeah, but you may have passed that window where it would have shown up.

1:15:29 Adam Please. It's awesome because Drew is telling me I had something which never manifests itself and never had awards, never any evidence of it at all, but he's just telling me, oh, you've had it, which is totally unsatisfying.

1:15:41 Drew I know.

1:15:42 Adam You've had, oh, trust me, yeah, yeah.

1:15:44 Drew You're exposed, you just told me you're exposed.

1:15:46 Adam You always say that.

1:15:48 Drew You're going to be like Jerry, go walk around three years from now, going, I've never missed EP, I never got it.

1:15:52 Adam Why did you give me $100 when you took the Woods Light Test?

1:15:54 Drew Because I expected you to have something at that moment.

1:15:56 Caller Yes, there you go.

1:15:57 Adam $100. I didn't become a millionaire by having lesions and not getting $100, you know what I'm saying?

1:16:05 Drew Yeah, I know.

1:16:05 Adam Let's take a question for the band. Let's hear a song.

1:16:08 Drew Oh yeah, let's hear a song. It's time for another song.

1:16:09 Adam Let's hear a song. Yeah, it is. You cute up there, Missy? Mm hmm. This one's called Dance Dance.

1:19:14 Drew They can lose it, man.

1:19:15 Adam All right, I'm just talking about football. Thank God, I didn't say anything weird. Drew, you taste different.

1:19:24 Caller No price run there.

1:19:26 Adam I mean, Cal, just put the Mac down on Stanford. Hey, everybody, Fall Out Boy in studio tonight. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Yeah, good stuff from Fall Out Boy. They're going to be on Too Late. Oh, no, wait a minute, that's my show. Last Call with Carson Daly. Thursday, deep Thursday, though. Into Friday. I would still call Thursday, you know, Thursday night. Don't set your alarms, you stay up.

1:19:55 Drew Let's talk about it some more.

1:19:58 Adam Michael?

1:20:00 Caller Yeah, hi.

1:20:01 Adam Seventeen?

1:20:01 Drew Yeah, hey.

1:20:02 Adam What's up?

1:20:04 Caller I just wanted to ask the guys, what's your process when you begin to write music? Like, do you start by picking out a key, or do you just, like, choose a riff or a chord progression that you find interesting?

1:20:16 Fall Out Boy Well, usually it starts with Pete writes a bunch of-

1:20:19 Fall Out Boy I chained Patrick to the basement of my house, and I beat him mercilessly, pretty much.

1:20:26 Fall Out Boy Until a hit comes up. No, he'll give me a bunch of words, and I'll look through there and see where, you know, rhythm strikes me as melodic or something, and I'll kind of go from there, and then we'll build from the top down. So- Cool.

1:20:44 Adam She just gives you a thesaurus?

1:20:46 Caller And what about- What about, like, lyrical melodies, like, intervals and stuff that I notice, like, there's some interesting ones in there that I really like?

1:20:56 Fall Out Boy What you want to know the weird thing is I find rhythm, and then melody just kind of implies itself. I don't know. Like, yeah. I don't know how to explain it. It just kind of shows up.

1:21:05 Caller Well, I mean, I hear it in your music. Like, I hear how the drums kind of reinforce the rhythm of the melody. Like, if that makes any sense, like, I kind of hear the lyrics in the drum part.

1:21:15 Fall Out Boy That's a conscious thing. We try to accent certain phrases and whatever by throwing out-

1:21:23 Adam Are you in a band, Michael?

1:21:26 Caller I'm in a ska band, but I'm mainly, like, I'm a classical musician. I play classical and jazz and stuff like that.

1:21:33 Drew What instrument?

1:21:36 Caller Well, I want to be a music teacher, so I know how to play, like, 12, 13 instruments.

1:21:40 Drew Wow.

1:21:41 Fall Out Boy What's your favorite piece?

1:21:44 Fall Out Boy Well, if you got one.

1:21:46 Fall Out Boy I mean, I know that's probably a lofty question.

1:21:47 Caller Well, the first thing that comes to mind is Beethoven's Sonata Pathetique, Opus 23.

1:21:52 Fall Out Boy That's mine.

1:21:53 Caller Good call. Are you serious?

1:21:55 Fall Out Boy Yeah, absolutely.

1:21:56 Adam Wow. Love connection.

1:21:58 Fall Out Boy Hey, check out a lot of Tom Waits. I think he liked that one too.

1:22:03 Caller All right.

1:22:04 Adam All right, buddy. What instrument do you play in the Ska band?

1:22:08 Caller I play bass in the Ska band, actually. And one of our songs was played on the X, the radio station that I was in.

1:22:15 Adam Wow. Somebody...

1:22:17 Drew Oh, boy.

1:22:20 Adam I don't know if Ska's taking a little break or something, but I like it. I like the horns. I like the horns going on.

1:22:28 Drew They're big fish. They're one of our favorite... They're not really scostam.

1:22:30 Adam Real big fish. Yeah. They're sort of sky.

1:22:33 Drew Yeah.

1:22:33 Adam But even when you go back to like the specials and...

1:22:37 Fall Out Boy The specials were awesome.

1:22:38 Drew Fishbone.

1:22:39 Adam Yeah.

1:22:40 Fall Out Boy Fishbone was crazy. My sister saw that guy get arrested for public indecency.

1:22:45 Drew Angelo?

1:22:46 Fall Out Boy Yeah, yeah, yeah. Walking around in a top hat and...

1:22:50 Drew Nothing else.

1:22:51 Fall Out Boy A pair of pants that weren't really on.

1:22:53 Adam Yeah.

1:22:54 Fall Out Boy Yeah, that's pretty cool.

1:22:55 Adam That's the Scalifer back there. Little Dickie in the Boston's there. We're going to take ourselves a quick break when we come back. We'll speak to Megan, still hung up on X who cheated on her.

1:23:07 Drew What's on 6 there?

1:23:08 Adam Check that out. Line 6. Five months pregnant. Is only 120 pounds. Tried everything but can't gain weight. Hmm. All right. We'll talk to both them after this.

1:23:20 Caller Hello, who's this?

1:23:21 Drew This is Loveline.

1:23:36 Adam Hey, everybody, it's Loveline and Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191 or Fall Out Boy. In studio tonight, looking at the beautiful graphics, like an old theater on the CD. The band will be on Carson Daly Thursday night. And...

1:23:55 Drew I like the name of their lead song. Our lawyer made us change the name of the song so we won't get sued.

1:24:00 Adam Wow.

1:24:01 Drew That's a good name for a song.

1:24:01 Adam What was it originally?

1:24:03 Fall Out Boy It was gonna be called, My Name is David Ruffin and These Are the Temptations. Just kind of...

1:24:08 Adam Really?

1:24:08 Fall Out Boy Yeah, just about the megalomania that kind of David Ruffin went through.

1:24:12 Drew Why would you get sued?

1:24:14 Fall Out Boy Well, we were... I guess after, kind of after Outkast did Rosa Parks, they changed how the laws go for that and we were gonna be approached with some serious litigation by the state so we decided to not do it.

1:24:27 Fall Out Boy No, nothing against David Ruffin. I am a Temptations fan. It was just...

1:24:30 Adam Yeah.

1:24:31 Fall Out Boy It's just something like the biopic that's always on VH1, it's pretty insane so...

1:24:35 Adam No, I didn't. I knew David Ruffin, I knew Tempts but I didn't know I didn't know they were litigious folks. Speaking of Rosa Parks, in the Rotunda, this is always gonna sound horrible but I don't know much more than not moving out of the bus. Were there other things she was known for? Cause that doesn't seem like enough. I know it sounds horrible but you know, me being white and everything but...

1:24:57 Drew She was a flash point, you know what I mean? Tipping point.

1:25:00 Adam Right, right. I'm hip but did she do other stuff? I like to check her resume, that's all.

1:25:08 Drew Michelle, check it out.

1:25:09 Adam Check out Rose's resume. Yeah, cause I don't trust people who ride the bus. I know back in the 60s it was cool but you know if someone told you they were riding the bus now, you wouldn't want to hang out with them, would you?

1:25:22 Drew You would have put it in the rotunda.

1:25:23 Adam Not in the rotunda. Not many people that make it to the rotunda with something they did on a bus. Yeah. Megan?

1:25:32 Caller Yeah.

1:25:33 Adam 19?

1:25:34 Caller Yeah.

1:25:35 Adam What's up?

1:25:36 Fall Out Boy Okay. First of all, I want to say hi to Pete and Patrick. Cause you guys are like my favorite band in like the whole world. And I saw you guys on Thursday and you guys rock.

1:25:42 Fall Out Boy Oh, thanks.

1:25:43 Fall Out Boy Thanks. My question is, my boyfriend like a year ago cheated on me with one of my best friends. And obviously I broke up with them right away. And I've been really like hung up on him. And I've been having like a hard time getting over him. And just when I think, you know, I'm, I'm almost there. I'm almost over him. He popped back up like a month ago and he's been trying to talk to me and telling me that, you know, that he still has feelings for me and he never meant to hurt me and stuff. And he like, he's talking about like possibly wanting to get back together. And I'm kind of giving in to him almost. I don't, I don't know what to do. I mean, I needed a guy's perspective on this.

1:26:16 Drew It's hard to say on this one. He probably is an a-hole and should be kept out of your life. Probably.

1:26:21 Adam Yeah.

1:26:22 Drew Though he's 18, some guys are sort of not yet mature enough to sort of contain themselves and do stupid things. What kind of guy is he generally?

1:26:34 Fall Out Boy Well, the only word I could think to describe him probably would be man whore.

1:26:37 Fall Out Boy What did he do while you guys were broken up?

1:26:40 Fall Out Boy He went off to the University of San Diego and probably did a bunch of girls and got drunk all the time.

1:26:47 Drew All right, Megan, what are you thinking? What are you thinking?

1:26:50 Caller I don't know.

1:26:52 Fall Out Boy Well, here's what it is. I mean, in general, it's like if he was, this is something I took directly from Pete, so I'm not taking credit for this, but if somebody's sleeping with somebody else and there's supposed to be a committed relationship there, there's something, that's not the lone problem. There's probably something inherent in the relationship that's faulty.

1:27:13 Drew Or in the guy.

1:27:14 Fall Out Boy Yeah.

1:27:15 Adam Well, here's, here's, here's an interesting point. There's a certain, there's something, okay, when you're trying to develop your character, you have to do those kind of things that sort of hurt, but they're the right thing to do.

1:27:29 Fall Out Boy Right.

1:27:29 Adam So you set a pattern of doing the right thing and sort of having these guidelines. That's really, it's called character.

1:27:35 Fall Out Boy Yeah.

1:27:35 Adam And it sort of reminds me, like when, when the owner of the Giants, the football Giants died recently, you know, this guy was 90 years old. Now, all everyone said is he had character. He didn't care about, you know, he said we should share the revenues, not New York should get paid more for the television markets and Green Bay, because he realized in the big picture that those teams couldn't, unless there was parody and stuff like that. That's how people remember you. It's not, you do lose revenue at a certain point, but ultimately you become a person of character. You need to do that for yourself. Like if somebody cheats on you, that's it. You shouldn't take them back, not because, you know, you like them, maybe they're not going to do anything. You just need to have personal guidelines. Somebody cheats, they don't get to come back. That's the kind of person I am. I know it hurts. It hurts me.

1:28:23 Drew And not only that, it's protective. It's not just a value, it's a smart thing to do.

1:28:28 Adam Right.

1:28:28 Drew So there's two values to it.

1:28:30 Adam Yeah. I was thinking today about the-

1:28:32 Drew Guy's done. Yeah. No way, Megan. No way.

1:28:36 Adam I know. But there's nothing more attractive to a woman than a guy who nails lots of other shit.

1:28:41 Drew But until when you're 22, you'll look back and you'll wretch about this guy at 22.

1:28:45 Adam Right. I was thinking, we're talking about Rosa Parks. I was thinking about the legacy of the bus driver told her to move her seat.

1:28:52 Fall Out Boy Where is he?

1:28:53 Adam I guess he's not in the rotunda. I'll tell you that right now. He's buried at Arlington. Yeah. That's gotta be rough. But I was thinking, did you find out anything, Michelle?

1:29:04 Caller She helped to inspire King to...

1:29:06 Adam Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right place, right time. And I was thinking of, I was talking about this earlier today with some drunk guys watching football. I thought, so important to do, you gotta do the right thing. Rosa Parks did the right thing. But then, man, timing-wise, pow, you're going down in history. Right.

1:29:24 Drew As opposed to doing the right thing when Hitler's in charge, in a, in a, in a gov'n.

1:29:28 Adam You end up in an oven. That's right. And not, not one of those toaster one size ones, full size, full human size. Yeah. No, but I was thinking about Rosa Parks, his hero, Lindy England, the guy, you know, chick that took the pictures with her thumbs up next to the Iraqi guy's genitalia. She's doing time. Yeah, she's going to be, she's going to get her ass kicked. Bad, bad time for her, bad timing. And not that we really care that this went on, but an example will have to be made. That, that's your worst nightmare, to get in a position where an example is gonna have to be made to another country and you're the person, you're the example. That's horrible times, because that just means you didn't really know more or know less than a thousand guys who came before you and probably less than several thousand who came before you. But we're gonna make an example of you. Being made an example of, on a good way, sometimes is, hey, I'm not getting up. I'm not leaving the seat. Pow, you get arrested. Pow, you're at the rotunda. And then sometimes you're doing time. It could work both ways.

1:30:29 Drew Yeah. Yeah.

1:30:31 Adam Not to diminish the memory. I'm just saying, usually you'll get a little more or you'll get a little less.

1:30:37 Drew Yeah.

1:30:38 Adam You rarely get right what you deserve.

1:30:40 Drew No.

1:30:41 Adam Although I feel I'm one of those guys.

1:30:43 Drew Rarely who gets what you deserve.

1:30:44 Adam I get exactly what I deserve. Let's talk to.

1:30:47 Drew You get a little more.

1:30:48 Adam No. Come on, buddy. Marina.

1:30:51 Drew 15.

1:30:54 Adam 15?

1:30:54 Drew Gone. Oh, there she is.

1:30:57 Adam What's up?

1:30:58 Caller Hi. Pete Patrick. I'm calling for a few of us overcast kids and we love you guys, but we wanted to know what you would call your weirdest fan encounter.

1:31:06 Adam No one understood that. Let's talk to Tim.

1:31:08 Drew Let's talk to what a weirdest fan encounter was.

1:31:10 Adam All right. Is that what those words were?

1:31:13 Drew Yes.

1:31:13 Fall Out Boy Wow. I think the weirdest one is when we were on Warped Tour. They had these radios that cost like $1,500 that all the people who work on Warped Tour use or whatever. Some kid stole one of them and he was radioing in to the guy who runs Warped Tour, Kevin. He was saying hilarious, crazy stuff. They were like, it's not funny anymore. He's like, yeah, it's not as funny as when I asked your mother last night. All this stuff. You're like, wow, this is insane. They were like, all right, we're coming to find you right now. The kid's smart enough where he's just like, how are you going to find me among 15,000 other people? They were like, all right. They weigh it out and they decide that it's worth it to just give the kid whatever he wants to get the radio back at the cost of $1,500. They were like, well, what do you want? We'll give it to you. Just give us the radio back. He says that he just wants to get into the San Antonio show and see Fall Out Boy. Wow. There was just a running bet whether he was going to show up or not. I don't think he did, but if he had, I would say congratulations, you beat the system.

1:32:06 Adam Well, we never did find out whether he turned in the radio and collected the tickets.

1:32:11 Fall Out Boy I think there's a possibility that he could have collected the tickets and not turned in the radio. I think they would have been very flawed on how they did that part of the operation.

1:32:19 Adam I'm all about that part though where the guy turns in the radio and a bunch of guys beat the crap out of him. And throw him out.

1:32:25 Fall Out Boy A little bit of a sting kind of thing.

1:32:27 Adam They always do that where they're like, we promised this guy's accomplice full immunity and we would not prosecute him if he talks. Then later on some videotape comes out of him stabbing the person. It's like, yeah, well, we already promised him we wouldn't prosecute him. It's like, well, you go back on it. Let's start going back on things. That's fine.

1:32:47 Fall Out Boy The honor system, come on.

1:32:48 Adam Yeah, when you're dealing with criminals, go ahead. The guy stole the radio. I mean, here's how my universe works. If someone steals a radio and you say, oh, no, just bring it back. We'll give you a reward. We'll not do anything. Go ahead and beat the crap out of him when he comes back. He stole the radio. It's fine.

1:33:05 Fall Out Boy You lied. Well, you stole the radio.

1:33:06 Adam Yeah. Boom. Yeah. We're even. You got a black eye. Got my radio back. We're even. Let's take a little break. We'll be right back. We'll be right back after this. They're yelling at the band. Fall Out Boy, everyone. My kind of band. Heavyweights. Heavyweights. Whole pot of coffee. Doesn't even know it. That's what I like. That's what I want, Drew. We're gonna take a little break. We're coming back tomorrow night. We're gonna have Fiona Horn, witch.

1:34:17 Drew Yeah, be interesting.

1:34:17 Adam Foxy witch. Cooking up a boner's brew. Horrible name for a shake, huh? Yeah. All right. God love you fellas. And until next time, I'm Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying Mahalo.

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