Episode 1000733479824

0:52 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience.

0:54 Voiceover Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content.

0:58 Voiceover Listen to discretion is advised.

1:00 Voiceover Loveline with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

1:02 Adam Hey, everybody. It's Loveline, not just Loveline, the Best Of Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla, that's Dr. Drew. Don't bother calling, cause you ain't gonna get us.

1:13 So, enjoy a little of the Best Of Loveline, Loveline, Best Of Loveline, Best Of Loveline, Best Of Loveline, Best Of Loveline, Best Of Loveline, Little Of Loveline, Little Of Loveline, A Little Of The Best Of Loveline.

1:29 Hey, everybody, it's Loveline.

1:30 Adam I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-1-9-1.

1:35 The Black Eyed Peas are here tonight.

1:37 Adam Fergie and Taboo are in here.

1:39 We have... Did a switcheroo.

1:41 Adam We did a little switcheroo. Anderson, Anderson, maybe you can play the Taboo theme song, which is this. Now, you...

1:49 Yes.

1:50 Adam Classic, classic, classic, classic. This song is in Taboo too. And I... Do you know Taboo?

1:57 I've been a big fan of Taboo.

1:59 I've been a big fan of many adult films.

2:02 Adam Oh, really?

2:03 Since I was young, you know, it taught me a lot about my manhood.

2:08 Does this film cover this?

2:09 You know it as your...

2:10 Quite a theme song for you, basically.

2:12 Quite a theme song? You know, it's also...

2:14 You're on.

2:15 Oh, all right.

2:15 Drew We're live.

2:16 Adam Well, let's pot down the best of then and get to the worst of, which is us.

2:21 Real love.

2:22 Real loveline. Sorry about that.

2:23 Adam A little technical difficulty there. Here's I am with the technical difficulty.

2:27 Drew Bravo.

2:28 Adam At first, I'd like it fixed, but in a second thought, let's ride this train all the way home.

2:34 Drew I know where you're headed at.

2:35 Adam That's the way I think. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. This is not the best of. This is live. You know how you know it's live? I wouldn't do that if it was the best of. That wouldn't make the best of.

2:48 Drew Oh, yeah.

2:48 Adam Punching the mic that way.

2:49 Drew I could do this with the glasses.

2:50 Adam Yeah, Drew rubs his glove. You wouldn't hear that on the best of. Bang the mug on there. It's not the kind of thing you're going to hear on the best of. It just wouldn't make the cut.

2:58 Drew However, next time we do a best of, we will do all that.

3:01 Adam That's right. 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Dictionary Medicine Specialist, Dustin and Riley here tonight from Thrice. Back again.

3:10 Thrice We also would not be on the best of. Yes.

3:13 Adam Well, now let me, now that's very modest of you, but I'll tell you the thing about the best of. It's weighed equally. You make a good show in tonight, you will be on the best of. Yes, Drew?

3:25 Yes, sir.

3:27 Adam Now, Vesu, name of the new CD, which is coming out tomorrow. That is Tuesday. Also the band is going to be on Jimmy Kimmel Live tomorrow. And then going over to Tower on Sunset and doing a signing tomorrow at 10 p.m. And I'm guessing is that, well, no, if the CD, CDs are released on Tuesdays, right?

3:49 Yeah.

3:49 Thrice And usually you do the 12 o'clock, like we would be signing in two hours.

3:55 Right.

3:55 Thrice But I don't know why we're not.

3:57 Adam Yeah.

3:57 Thrice We did a signing earlier today, but the kids couldn't have the CD. They can only have the booklet. It was a very confusing situation. And I didn't understand it.

4:06 Adam Well, it was raining today anyway. So you'll want to do it tomorrow when the clouds have parted.

4:12 Drew Was it not weird rain?

4:13 Adam Yeah.

4:14 But good. Oh.

4:15 Adam Well, good and weird, but nice.

4:17 Wow.

4:17 Adam Biblical, but nice. I like it. I realize something is better than nothing.

4:23 Drew Yes. Yes.

4:24 Adam I would rather have a bad TV than the TV turned off. And I'd rather see a bad TV show than not have it plugged in.

4:32 Drew Yeah.

4:32 Adam That's sort of what the weather's like for me. I want something to happen. I'm even sort of not adverse to things like earthquakes and natural disasters and stuff.

4:41 Drew It just stirs it up a little bit.

4:43 Adam Yeah. Literally and figuratively. But it gives you sort of something to do. I mean, I'm just.

4:47 Thrice What about heat?

4:48 Adam I don't like heat.

4:50 Thrice That's not.

4:50 Adam No.

4:51 Thrice That doesn't count as something.

4:52 Drew It goes the other way.

4:53 Adam No, no. That's a vacuum. That's intense nothing.

4:57 Thrice I would agree with that.

4:58 Adam That's like being punished with nothingness. Like being beaten with an invisible bat. More painful, I would argue.

5:05 Drew You can't respond to it.

5:06 Adam You can't sue it. Can you sue the sun?

5:10 Drew Somebody would.

5:10 Adam Soon. Soon.

5:12 Drew Coming soon.

5:13 Adam So anyway, Thrice is, like I said, going to be on Kimmel tomorrow night. You want to watch that and then also going to go out on tour with my chemical romance doing dates starting later on this week. Drew is on the Too Late show tonight on Comedy Central.

5:31 Drew For a millisecond.

5:32 Adam Yeah.

5:33 Drew But did he hurt himself?

5:34 Adam Did he do the yeoman's job? Steve-O?

5:36 Drew Steve-O.

5:37 Adam Steve-O made his triumphant return to my late night TV show on Comedy Central. I decided I did some crazy things.

5:44 Drew And I did everything I could to stay until the stunt because the way he described it, I envisioned myself intubating and putting IVs in it so I thought this is going to be bad.

5:52 Adam Yeah.

5:53 Drew And when he leaped off your couch onto the burning table set for IV with spaghetti, I thought here we go. Here we go.

6:03 Yeah.

6:04 Adam It would have been nice if that hurt him because he went on to do more damage.

6:08 Drew Oh, he broke the table. I saw that.

6:09 Yeah.

6:10 Adam Drew, don't step on it, buddy.

6:12 Drew Oh, you gotta watch to see what happens.

6:13 Oh, do they?

6:16 Adam Or they can just close their eyes and listen to you paint a very vivid picture of what went on in my TV show tonight.

6:20 Drew Could have been the spaghetti table.

6:22 Adam Yes, it could have been, but I don't think it was. So, Steve, Steve Triumphant Return and then of course, Too Late, not Too Late, Adam Corolla Project on TLC Tonight, if you're listening tomorrow.

6:36 Drew I was at USC today and I promised to mention that great experience over there.

6:40 Adam What would you do over there?

6:41 Drew You have a talk? Triumphant Return Home. Who'd you talk to? A couple students.

6:50 Adam Freebie?

6:51 Drew No.

6:52 You talked to the one that chucked her baby in the trash?

6:55 Drew I did not talk to the one, nor did I talk about the one that chucked her baby in the trash.

6:58 Adam Who chucked her baby in the trash?

6:59 Drew Some student.

7:01 Adam Student?

7:02 Drew She's incarcerated now, probably in the jail ward at the hospital.

7:05 Adam Really?

7:06 Drew Yeah.

7:07 Adam SC student.

7:08 Drew Apparently.

7:08 Adam Yeah. Yeah, and the neighborhood's right, but the college student part just doesn't add up.

7:14 Drew Right.

7:15 Adam Really?

7:15 Drew They were all abuzz about that.

7:16 Adam Wow. Yeah, you know, the part where they say like, well, first off, you know, I understand abandoning your child, but why do they have to go into the dumpster all the time? What? You know what I mean? How about a basket and put it on the, you know, the steps of the church or down the Nile, put it in the wicker basket, let it float down the river? Really? The dumpster?

7:35 Thrice Give it a chance.

7:37 Adam Yeah. I mean, I guess what I'm saying is, is, is the baby alive?

7:41 Drew I don't know. I don't think so.

7:42 Adam If you if you want it, if you want the baby.

7:44 Drew Thank you, Anderson.

7:45 Adam Good. If you want to. Well, I mean, good. No, good reporting.

7:49 Drew Yeah. Sure, sure, sure.

7:50 Adam What? Good. Here's what I know. But here's what I'm saying. If you want to kill your baby, then kill it and bury it. You know what I mean? Or if you then want the baby to live, you just don't want to raise the baby, then set it on the stairs of a schoolhouse. But why just the sort of in between move? You know, that dumpster seems sort of in between.

8:11 Drew Because usually those are people who are psychotic or have really serious mental health stuff. They're just flailing.

8:17 There's food in a lot of the dumpsters.

8:19 Adam Oh, Anderson, please. I'm never going to dignify that with a chuckle.

8:24 All right.

8:24 Adam You're ready to go to some phones here? Megan?

8:27 Hi.

8:29 Um, huh? Yeah, I am.

8:31 Adam What's up?

8:32 Um, actually, I just want to start off.

8:35 I am a diagnosed nymphomaniac.

8:39 Adam Megan, who diagnosed you?

8:41 Drew First of all, there's no such term. So there we go.

8:43 Well, okay. Well, I, my therapist or whatever said that I have what is technically called an nymphomaniac. It stems from issues and all sorts of wonderful stuff. Anyway.

8:58 Drew All right, here's the deal. You could have sexual addiction or you can have sexual compulsion, and both of those tend to be caused by sexual abuse in childhood.

9:05 Adam No, no, no therapist would call you a nymphomaniac.

9:08 Drew No, that's not a term that has any meaning. Yeah.

9:10 Well, yeah, she just said that I have... It's pretty much a compulsion to just have sex all the time.

9:18 Drew Right. So you were sexually abused as a child then?

9:21 Oh, yeah.

9:22 Drew Oh, excuse me, of course. Who was it? I mean, come on. Yeah.

9:25 Well, no, I had no problem admitting it. It kind of happened. It's true. I am. I'm not really that upset about it. I dealt with it. I'm still dealing with it on a daily basis, so it's not a big deal.

9:39 Adam All right. Hold on a second. You've dealt with it, but you're dealing with it on a daily basis.

9:44 Yeah.

9:44 The great thing is that like the larger part of it, like some of the harder emotions I've gone through, but there's things I kind of deal with on a daily basis about it. You know what I mean?

9:57 Yeah. Yeah.

9:57 Drew It changes your brain. And so part of it is a perception that it's over. I dealt with it. But the reality is it has a persistent effect on how your brain functions. As you see, you're sexually addicted, sexually compulsed.

10:09 Adam Who molested you?

10:11 My brother.

10:12 Drew Oh, nice.

10:13 Adam What's the nice biological brother?

10:15 They let him into the military and gave him a gun.

10:17 How creepy is that?

10:19 Adam Well, there's a good chance he's going to get shot before he shoots anyone else. Well, you're looking at that way. Everyone does that thing where they go and then they let him into the military. That's who we want in the military. Here you go, buddy. First, you're going to Fort Bragg in Kentucky and then POW. We're shipping you overseas. You're essentially off the continent. That's good. And see that guy over there? Yeah. You know what you think of your dad? Yeah. Pretend that's your dad. Now go get him. Go. I said, get.

10:48 Go on, get it.

10:49 Adam I mean, that's what you want. What do you want? A bunch of well-adjusted guys that want to talk things out, not prone to violence?

10:56 Drew No, you're right.

10:57 Adam Go molest the enemy.

10:59 Drew Mock Chanel.

11:00 Adam Mock Chanel, baby. That's what I'm saying. Get on a boat. Here's a gun and have at it. That's what we want. What do we want this guy? Stay in state sign and go into junior college? Suckling off the teat of the taxpayer, molesting more people? No, get a gun, go overseas. Where was she? Line six. Hi, Megan. How long did you do this, Dio?

11:26 For about eight or nine years.

11:30 Drew Oh, awful.

11:31 Adam Bad times.

11:33 Drew All right. What's your question?

11:35 I recently got in a bullet bike accident.

11:37 I have road rash from like the top of my head.

11:41 Adam I think she's saying what's a bullet.

11:43 I fell off a bullet bike.

11:44 Thrice Fast motorcycle.

11:45 Adam You just mean you just mean. What are you talking about?

11:51 Drew What's a pocket rocket?

11:52 Adam What's a crotch rocket?

11:53 Drew What's a bullet?

11:53 Like a crotch rocket.

11:56 Drew You fell off it.

11:57 Yeah, I accident. I mean, I got in an accident. I was drinking a little heavily and fell off.

12:05 Drew Listen, Megan, you're an addict to you. You need to deal with this. This is going to this is not going to go well.

12:10 Adam Wait a minute, what kind of motorcycle were you riding?

12:12 I have no idea. It was a Honda something.

12:15 Adam You fell off the back or you were driving it?

12:17 Yeah, I fell off the back.

12:19 Adam All right, that makes more sense. Wow. Because chicks can't ride motorcycles.

12:23 No, they really can't.

12:24 I'm in total agreement with that.

12:25 Adam No. You want to know how you know the guys who can't ride the bikes? I've always found is when they sit at the light and then the light turns green and they take off, both feet are out like pontoons all the way through the intersection. They're just like an upside down V. They're like a teepee. The nut sack is on the tank and then the legs are just straight out. Almost like when a guy's walking a tightrope and he has that sort of balancing stick. When you see both those legs out at a 45 degree angle and the knees locked, and you see that all the way through the intersections like this guy cannot ride. The guys who can ride put one foot down and they pop the other foot up before they even start rolling forward and just let the clutch out. There's your pop, go, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

13:07 Drew Yeah, makes sense.

13:08 Adam That's how you know. Yeah.

13:10 Drew I'll watch that.

13:11 Adam Watch for it.

13:11 Drew I will.

13:12 Adam Start watching for it.

13:13 Drew Stay away from it.

13:14 Adam Yeah, that guy is dangerous. All right, Megan.

13:17 Drew Megan?

13:18 Yeah.

13:19 Drew Megan, the therapy is not going to really help your condition. You've got to get some 12-step. You've got to.

13:25 I actually am in a couple of, I have been in 12-step before. It just doesn't really kind of do it for me.

13:33 Adam Yeah, but Megan, you're 22.

13:35 Drew You're not done it. You're not capitulated to it.

13:39 Adam Let me just give you a little work to do, Megan. And you got everyone jumping in. Tell me what you think. But I would say going through what you've gone through and seeing what you've seen, being molested for multiple, multiple years, your job probably before the age of 26, 27, and it's really 30, but I just don't want to turn you off too much, is not to get pregnant, not to get stabbed by pimp, not to fall off the back of a motorcycle, load and get killed. Like you're not going to even, you're not really going to thrive for a few years. Your job is to not do any permanent damage, not get strung out, not get thrown in jail, not crap out a bunch of kids.

14:18 Drew She is going to get strung out.

14:20 That's what I'm saying. This accident really has been a big turnaround for me.

14:24 Drew Now she's on Vicodin.

14:25 Adam Good. Yeah. It was a wake up call.

14:28 Drew And so what painkillers?

14:29 Yeah, definitely.

14:30 Drew Taking some painkillers now?

14:32 They've got me on lower tabs, but I'm kind of afraid.

14:35 There you go.

14:36 Adam Don't take those lower tabs.

14:38 Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm kind of afraid to take them.

14:41 Adam Good.

14:41 If I can deal with the pain, I'll do it.

14:44 Adam Do it. And do therapy and don't get pregnant and don't go to the joint and don't do it. Just survive for a few years and then things will start getting better.

14:54 Yeah. And that would be good.

14:58 Drew OK, that's all.

14:59 Adam Look, Drew, wouldn't you say for a lot of people that listen to the show and call into the show, it's not really about thriving. It's about not getting cut from the team. I mean, to use a sports analogy, you don't have to make the starting lineup. You don't have to go all pro. Just see if you can make the 50 man roster at this point. In a few years from now, we'll see about making it into that starting rotation. Let's just not get cut.

15:24 Drew You're asking a philosophical question is that, well, we know this person is not willing to get well, so maybe we can just cut down on the risks.

15:31 Adam I don't think they're going to get well, even if they attempt to get well for a number of years.

15:36 Drew I agree with you. Therefore, we just got to minimize the consequences.

15:40 Adam Well, there's a bunch of things that happen when you're high or when life is horrible and whatever, and there's unwanted pregnancies and there's run-ins with the law, and there's, hey, there's going into score something getting shot. You know what I mean? Like if you can avoid all those things.

15:55 Drew Those are the consequences.

15:56 Adam Those are the consequences. And then if you could make it to 30.

16:00 Drew Maybe you want to get well then.

16:01 Adam You want to get well or you have been slowly getting well up into that point, then what's the difference?

16:06 Drew Right. People aren't ready until they're ready.

16:10 Adam But Drew, you need to just wrap these people in bubble wrap, put a hockey helmet on them and dart them and put them down for five years.

16:16 Drew Oh, I've advocated that. Don't trust me.

16:19 Adam Do you think we'll get to a point where we can just sort of...

16:22 Drew Lock people in a room?

16:24 Adam No, but erase their memory.

16:27 Drew No.

16:27 Adam Why not? Would that be unethical?

16:30 Drew Well, that's a whole different issue, but why would we want to erase the memory?

16:35 Adam Because every time they close their eyes, they see their brother on top of them.

16:38 Drew But that's the problem.

16:39 Adam I'm not talking about you and your highfalutin ski vacations with your high snow bunny girlfriend when you're 17. I'm talking about people that were molested repeatedly, not sipping Swiss Miss up in the Alps, toasting their toddies by the open fire, and talking about taking the three diamond run the following morning. No, not that, Drew. I'm talking about sweaty stepbrother on top of you for nine years.

17:03 Drew You look cathartic.

17:04 Yeah. Oh.

17:06 Adam Yeah. Yeah.

17:08 Drew Okay.

17:08 Adam Okay. You know what I'm saying?

17:10 Drew Uncomfortable.

17:10 Adam Uncomfortable.

17:12 Drew What was I talking about?

17:13 Adam Erasing the memory.

17:14 Drew Yes, that it's not the memory that's the problem. It's what it does to the functions in the brain. It causes a dependency on a modality of regulating feelings that is very primitive, particularly something called dissociation.

17:28 Adam So the brain is physically changed.

17:29 Drew Changed in terms of how it regulates itself. So it's not that there's some horrible memory, it's that the brain doesn't regulate in a mature and integrated way.

17:37 Adam Right.

17:37 Drew And so it becomes dependent on these primitive ways of regulating itself and a repetition compulsion develops where they keep acting on the same behavior over and over and over again, which is the sexual compulsion.

17:47 Adam Right.

17:47 Drew All right.

17:48 Adam So as you... I know this is this heady stuff part in the pun, but I'm interested in this. As you get, as you mature, your brain is changing, evolving, growing, whatever. Normally, it gets interrupted.

18:02 Drew Trauma derails that.

18:03 Adam And those aren't just memories, those are actual rewiring.

18:06 Drew And that rewiring mechanisms. And so the brain actually disintegrates. It becomes, you know, parts of it wall off from other parts. And so that part where she's dealt with it, that's still sitting there having a reaction, even though she can't reach it.

18:18 Adam All right. So it's really nothing.

18:20 Drew All right.

18:21 Carrie?

18:22 Hi.

18:23 Adam You're 20? Well, why don't I take the lower tab then?

18:26 Drew Well, that's why they take it. That's how they regulate those things.

18:28 Yeah.

18:29 Drew And then the addiction gets triggered by that. And now it's bad times.

18:32 Adam Oh, gimme. Carrie?

18:33 Yes.

18:35 Adam What's happening? Hey.

18:37 I've been using a vibrator for about a year now. And ever since I started using it, I haven't been able to orgasm while I have sex. And my abortions are very frustrated.

18:50 Drew Did you used to be able to?

18:51 Yeah.

18:52 Drew During intercourse?

18:54 Adam Hmm.

18:55 Drew That's weird.

18:56 Adam Wow. Here's the thing. Your vagina got soft. They got weak. That's the problem with this country. I mean, we used to be proud. We used to be strong. We used to have strong-willed vaginas.

19:06 Drew The lazy vagina.

19:07 Adam In this country. But we got soft, we got fat, and we're weak. Our children's vaginas are getting fatter and weaker. And I'm talking male and female vagina. I'm talking both.

19:18 Drew I'm listening.

19:18 Adam You know, metaphorically, you know? Your son's vagina is true. They're soft. They're weak. They don't have the intestinal vaginal fortitude that your father had when his vagina came over on a boat. Many years ago, from the old country, yes?

19:32 Drew Yes, absolutely.

19:34 Adam Nothing but a dream and a nickel in this vagina. Could anyone's parents come over with more than $10?

19:40 Drew Where's the geist, the vaginal geist?

19:42 Adam Is there anybody's parents that came over here or grandparents or great-grandparents that came over with a couple of dreams, a suit, and actually about $1,300, which is pretty good money in those days. Everybody said $4?

19:56 Drew No, they didn't have two nickels to rub together.

20:00 Adam Look, if you're going to a new country, how about you save up $40? That's my thing. That's my thing. If I'm just going to get on a boat, it's going to cruise, it's going to last 42 days, and I'm going to Greece, I got more than $3.

20:16 Drew Yeah, probably.

20:17 Adam Yeah, call me nuts, I'm going $30. That's me. I might put a watch on or something too. Maybe take more than one shirt.

20:25 Drew And for those of you who didn't bring $30, what's the plan?

20:28 What's the plan?

20:30 Adam I know it's like, you go, well, $3 back then could buy a meal and a beer. Yeah, okay, a couple of meals, but okay, so it was equivalent to $80 or something. You know what I mean? Couldn't you, you left Greece when you were 28, you couldn't have saved up $100? You did nothing? They didn't use money? What do they pay you? What do they pay with over there, hummus? You didn't, you know, they didn't pay? Do they pay?

20:53 Drew Grape leaves.

20:54 Adam Grape leaves, stuffed grape leaves, like they actually have food, do they pay you in food that would spoil? Like, your grandfather, he was paid in feta cheese. He came over here with a dream, $2 and a wheel of feta cheese and a nickel in his vagina. I'm just saying, look, if you're coming into this country, the dream part is good to have a couple of ducats to rub together, wouldn't you? Or where are we, Drew? Megan.

21:19 Drew Well, she can't organize with the vibrator, so lay off it for a while. And or incorporate it into what you were doing. Bring it in. Go with it.

21:26 Adam Yeah, but women can't, that doesn't work for women.

21:30 Drew Ask her.

21:31 Adam It's weird.

21:31 Drew You're right. It is weird.

21:32 Adam Carrie?

21:33 Yes.

21:34 Adam Did you try to incorporate the vagina?

21:36 Drew No, the vibrator.

21:37 Adam I mean, so on the vagina.

21:39 Of course.

21:40 Drew Yeah.

21:41 No, I haven't. I haven't tried that, because my boyfriend, like, he, I think he thinks of that as, like, not prideful for him or whatever.

21:51 Drew Well, why don't you just go ahead and pop that pride bubble and bring it on in. Yeah.

21:55 Adam It's corporate, that vibrator.

21:57 Drew Okay.

21:59 Adam Well, here's the other thing, too. There's a thing about guys and stupid guys and stupid people. They have to make things their idea.

22:04 Drew Right.

22:04 Adam You somehow make it his idea to incorporate this into the bedroom and he'll be into it. I don't know how. I don't know the best way to sort of do that. Does he? Is he aware of the vibrator?

22:16 Yeah. Well, he bought it for me.

22:18 Adam Oh, we did?

22:19 Yeah.

22:20 Drew How long have you been using it?

22:21 Adam Bitten by your own snake.

22:22 Yeah. That's what this is.

22:24 No, he bought it for me because we were having, before we were having problems, like I wasn't, like I had really, I had estrogen problems and really low estrogen. I couldn't like have sex and I couldn't get turned on or anything.

22:41 Drew At 20, you were having to estrogen efficiency? Why were you on the depot or something?

22:44 I got put on, well, yeah, they had, I had low estrogen and I got put on like progesterone or something.

22:51 Drew Yeah. That's the opposite of estrogen.

22:53 Adam Hmm.

22:53 I don't know.

22:54 All right.

22:55 Drew She just swept the details.

22:57 All right.

22:57 Adam So listen, Carrie, he bought you the vibrator, but he doesn't want to use it with you.

23:02 He wants me to use it at home.

23:06 Right.

23:07 Adam Not out in the driveway.

23:09 No. Yeah. He wants me to use it, but like because we don't live together, so he wants me to use it. Okay. But he wants me to use it as like he thinks that will make my sex drive go up. And it has.

23:22 Drew The whole mad scientist approach to their girlfriend.

23:24 Adam Yeah. Make her hot.

23:25 Drew Yeah. We're going to work this.

23:27 Adam Okay. So here's the thing, Carrie. He bought it for you. So you incorporate it into the act.

23:33 Caller Yeah. Yeah.

23:34 Adam He knows it already.

23:37 Drew Bring it on. Just come on.

23:38 Adam Just go and bring it out.

23:39 Drew Just assert yourself, Carrie. It's ridiculous.

23:41 Adam Yeah. Go ahead.

23:42 Drew Come on. He's treating you like some sort of like beaker, some sort of, you know, hurl-a-mire place. Yeah.

23:48 Adam Is Bunsen the name of a guy?

23:49 Drew I guess, yeah.

23:50 Adam Wow. That's good. Bunsen Burner. Big John Bunsen. He invented this flame that goes under this thing.

23:58 Drew It was Dr. Bunsen.

23:59 Adam Big John, Big Duke, John, Dr. John Bunsen.

24:03 Drew I don't think the sort of configuration of Bunsen Burner has changed in 300 years.

24:07 Adam Well, if it ain't broke. I just like the alliteration part, you know? They don't call it the Bunsen Flame. Somebody's smart enough to call it the Bunsen Burner.

24:14 Drew Bunsen Torch?

24:15 Adam Yeah, no, no. Bunsen Burner.

24:17 Drew Yeah. He had a good PR person.

24:20 Adam Bunsen Burner would be a great man. If you are fast, wide out, went to like Bunsen State, it would be an awesome name for you. I don't know if there's such a college, but it'd be worth the start one just to have a team.

24:29 Drew So you could say you were the Bunsen Burner.

24:32 Adam Yeah, boy, this guy returns kicks like nobody's business. All right, Thrice in the studio tonight. Go find the name of Dr. Bunsen. You really think you need a doctor to invent that flame?

24:44 Drew Maybe he was a doctor.

24:45 Adam The guy who should probably just now work well there or something.

24:47 Drew Archimedes.

24:48 Adam Go look that up. Thrice in studio tonight. Going to be on Kimmel tomorrow night, everybody. Then going to be over at the tower on Sunset Strip at 10 o'clock signing the new CDs. We'll hear something off that new CD and talk to you after this.

25:05 Loveline's phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191.

25:08 Caller Loveline, with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew, we'll be right back.

25:21 Adam Hey, everybody, it's Loveline and Adam. That's Dr. Drew for number 1-800-LOVE-191. Thrice in tonight, Dustin and Riley.

25:29 Thrice Yes, and Bob Burner.

25:30 Adam In from the band. Vsue, name of the CD, going to drop tomorrow, and also the boys are gonna be on Jimmy Kimmel Live tomorrow night, and then at 10 o'clock, they head over to the tower on Sunset Strip, do a little signing of the new CD. So Robert Eberhard Wilhelm von Bunsen, the inventor of the Bunsen Burner, Bob Bunsen. Bob Bunsen sounds like a guy who will sell the insurance and play a little junior college guard too, like on the football team, played. Now he's a fat guy with big forearms who wears a short-sleeve shirt and a tie. Hi, Bob Bunsen, nice to meet you. How you fix your home, comp, collision, doing okay? You understand, what if something, you know what the worst part about being a guy is, is when you keep hearing these commercials like, what happens, but what about your family? What about when you're gone? How would you like to be a chick? I'll walk around all day having people going, what about when you're gone? What about when you're not there? What if something tragic were to happen to you? It's a bummer. You didn't know what it really thinks about. You just sort of walk around, yeah, what's going to happen when I'm gone? And then it's always like, why am I going first? Where am I going? Why can't they go? You know what I mean?

26:40 Drew You mean as a woman?

26:41 Adam Yeah, like how about some chips?

26:42 Drew You aren't going first.

26:43 Adam How about a, I know, but can there be any kind of commercial like life insurance for her or for lesbians or something? Like when you go, honey, what about that? What about that? How about it's always with the dudes? It's a bummer.

26:58 Drew What are you gonna do?

27:00 Adam I'm just telling you, it is not a stone gas walking around hearing that. It's freak out, that's what I have to say to that. All right, let's take some, anyway, they the inventor of the Bunsen burner, stone gas, Robert Bunsen, Von Bunsen, Von Bunsen, maker of the Bunsen burner. All right, let's another Megan, talk to Megan. Megan is 22. Megan?

27:28 Caller Hello?

27:29 Adam What's up?

27:30 Caller Hi. First of all, I want to say that I think both you, Adam and Dr. Drew are two of the most intelligent creatures in Southern California, and I hope you're never taking off air.

27:40 Adam Thank you, but what happens when you're gone? Who's going to take care of your family? I don't know. How would you like that, huh, ladies? How do you like that pressure toss in your lap? What happens when you're gone? What if tragedy strikes? Yeah. You know what, women? Women would be like, screw them, I'm gone. Let them get a job. All right, go ahead, Megan.

28:01 Drew Interesting.

28:02 Adam Yeah.

28:02 Caller All right. Yes.

28:04 Adam Let me tell you something. You know what kind of service I would like? I'd like a service that was like, what happens if you're gone? What happens if the provider of the family tragically leaves? What if the tragedy strikes and you can't provide for your family? We're a service that doesn't provide insurance for you. We teach your old lady how to make money. I'm like, yeah, sign me up. Yeah, go ahead and start working with her. Show her something because when I'm gone, she's going to need to work. I don't want to get a lump of $20 million. I want to get her ass off the sofa and go to work. How about that? How about that service? That's what I would get down with. What about when you're gone? We have to pry her lazy ass off the sofa. She's not going to have any kind of skills. We're going to teach her some skills. Put some makeup on and not cuss out her boss. Get a type 40 words a minute. You know what I mean? That's what I'd like to hear. That's the AM radio commercial I'd like to hear. Not what happens when I'm gone. Go ahead, Megan.

28:58 Caller Okay. Last night, a caller called in regarding HPV for women and Dr. Drew said the vaccine would be available to us within a year.

29:08 Drew I bet you. I'm betting on that.

29:10 Caller Okay, because I unfortunately have the cancerous strain. And-

29:14 Drew Well, I'm not sure it's been determined yet what it's going to do for people that already have the virus, whether it can slow it down or decrease it. It is a way of preventing transmission of the virus.

29:23 Adam Well, it's like any, like polio or any of these other vaccines.

29:28 Drew Sometimes, sometimes vaccines though can help the body attack chronic viruses.

29:33 Adam Really?

29:33 Drew Yeah.

29:34 Adam Is there another example that you can think of? I mean, if it's smallpox or something, is it going to work if you get smallpox and then take the thing?

29:42 Drew There's some data that suggests you can or, you know, those diseases, you can actually inoculate against melanomas and things. There's other stuff you've got that you can help fight. But I don't, I haven't seen any data on that yet, Megan. So I don't know how to answer that one. That may or may not be available. I'm not sure. Oh, okay.

29:57 Caller You're not first run.

29:59 Drew I'm sure the vaccine were available. I'm just not sure if it'll be of any use to people that already have the virus.

30:04 Adam Yeah. And Megan, if your life is claimed by uterine cancer, what about your family? Who's going to provide for them?

30:10 Caller Okay.

30:11 Adam All right. See? How do you like it?

30:13 Drew Have you had abnormal PAPS yet?

30:15 Caller Okay. Yes, I have. Yeah. I had the, what's it called? Colonoscopy.

30:23 Drew Leap? Colposcopy.

30:24 Caller Colposcopy, yes.

30:25 Drew Colposcopy.

30:27 Adam There's a cone thing too, isn't it?

30:28 Drew Colonization. You know, they take the center of the cervix out.

30:31 Caller Yeah. Okay. Well, so it will just help me transmitting. It will just keep me from transmitting to other people, but it won't do anything for me, for sure.

30:38 Drew Well, you're right. Correct.

30:40 Caller Okay. Well.

30:41 Drew Yep.

30:42 Caller That's it. Thank you so much, Dr. Drew.

30:44 Drew All right, Megan. All right.

30:45 Adam Good times. Lesbian life insurance. Mutual lesbian life insurance. Yeah.

30:54 Drew All right.

30:55 Adam Hey, we should hear a Thrice song.

30:56 Drew Beautiful.

30:57 Adam How about that?

30:58 Thrice Yes, thanks.

30:59 Adam New CD, Visu coming out tomorrow. Well, really in just about one hour and 26 minutes or so, technically, and this little something off it called the Image of the Invisible.

31:32 Drew Here we are. We back?

31:34 Caller Yeah.

31:34 Adam All right, well, there you go. And if you want to hear that song in its entirety, watch Kimmel tomorrow night, and hear just more than the organ solo from the lady. The stick song.

31:44 Drew For the first nanosecond of the other song.

31:46 Caller All right.

31:46 Drew Are you ready?

31:47 Caller Are we cool?

31:48 Adam Ah, all right. Once again, Thrice.

34:01 Caller Shadow of a Taker.

35:58 Adam Here's a little stuff from Thrice, our guest tonight. Elm is coming out tomorrow, in just about an hour and 20 minutes from now, technically. Vsue name of the CD, gonna be on Jimmy Kimmel Live tomorrow night, and then also signing at the Tower and Sunset Strip tomorrow.

36:15 Caller Drew.

36:18 Drew Something burning?

36:19 Adam No, I mean, you know what I, you know what I'm gonna get that deodorant smell going on here, you know, like that Old Spice.

36:25 Drew I thought it smelled like something like burning.

36:28 Adam Is you wearing any Old Spice?

36:29 Drew No.

36:29 Adam Nothing? Not you? Let's play a little Germany or Florida.

36:34 Drew All right, fair enough.

36:36 Adam Trevor?

36:37 Drew Okay, we're good.

36:38 Oh, theme song for Germany or Florida.

36:42 Caller Is it Germany, or Florida?

36:48 Adam David Allen, career at the book.

36:51 Caller Germany, or Florida? Let's find out.

37:02 Adam Yeah, big hand.

37:04 Caller Trevor.

37:07 Trevor?

37:08 Drew Doesn't sound good.

37:10 Caller Germany.

37:12 Drew I'm guessing.

37:13 Trevor?

37:14 Adam All right.

37:14 Caller Gone.

37:15 Adam Caller goes by Trevor? No? Well, I'll tell you, that's tough. Normally, I like it when calls drop off, but when we do the big Germany or Florida, send up and then...

37:24 Drew Get that, that's awful.

37:25 Adam Nothing. Want to talk to Kyle?

37:27 Drew Sure.

37:28 Caller All right.

37:29 Adam Kyle?

37:30 Caller Hi.

37:31 Adam 20?

37:31 Caller Yep.

37:32 Adam You have a question for the guys?

37:34 Caller Yeah, I was just wondering how they feel about their album being leaked on the Internet before it is released.

37:41 Thrice It pretty much happens with every record there is nowadays, so...

37:46 Caller Okay, so it's a different kind of acceptance. All right.

37:48 Caller It definitely lessens the importance of, I guess, midnight tonight or tomorrow morning because I guess most of the excitement is hoping that everybody gets the record that day and they sit down with the liner notes and stuff and take it in as a whole. But I don't know. It's cool enough to know that people are into it enough to go look for it on the Internet and find it on file sharing sites, I guess.

38:13 Adam Well, it means you've arrived.

38:15 Thrice Yeah.

38:15 Adam I really think about it.

38:17 Caller You guys are actually my favorite band. I really appreciate it.

38:19 Thrice Thanks. Thanks, man. Thanks, man.

38:21 Adam There you go. All right. Are you going to buy this CD?

38:23 Caller I actually have it pre-ordered, the special edition.

38:25 Drew He's got it off the Internet already.

38:26 Adam Pre-ordered.

38:27 Drew Thank you for doing that, man. What's the special edition?

38:31 Adam It's a regular edition with a special sticker on it.

38:33 Drew Oh, yeah.

38:33 Thrice It's got like different artists, got like foil stamp and a 32-page booklet with all these liner notes. It's a liner note. Like old jazz records where there's like a lot of literature in there. Like we did notes on every song, like background songs in them.

38:49 Adam You're saying liner notes, haven't you? Well, liner notes, aren't liners just anything you put in there, like the thank yous, the lyrics and all that?

38:56 Thrice But we put like, I don't know what you'd call them.

38:59 Caller Band commentary, song commentary.

39:02 Adam It's one of these things where I think that the fact that people can go on the internet and steal things and share things and download things have forced the artists to sort of step it up, to offer more than just the music, but to offer the liner notes and the art and the other aspects of the band and other aspects of the CD that go along with it. It's one of these things where at first it's sort of like, oh, this sucks, but it's sort of, I don't know, it's almost like the American car companies didn't like the Japanese coming in and competing, but it forced them to sort of up their product a little bit. And everyone looks, everything looks pretty good now. Look at stuff in the 80s. Just be a picture of some dude on there. And then on the back of the CD had him looking backwards, looking over his shoulder. That was one frontal shot. Back when he's looking over his shoulder, and Amy Alma is like looking back. And that was about it. Then he opened up, it was nothing. It was just a folded over piece of Kleenex in there. Nothing. All right. But now look at this. Art, graphics, pages, recipes. Nice set of gazpacho recipe on page nine. You see that, Drew? Yeah, look at that. Squid. All right. We'll take a quick break. Squid helps. We'll be right back with Thrice after this. Want to dress up your sex? Yeah, buddy, love line, man. That's Dr. Drew over there. Thrice in studio tonight. They're gonna be on Jimmy Kimmel Live.

40:39 Drew What does Vsue mean?

40:40 Adam Tomorrow night?

40:42 Thrice It's from book V by Thomas Binshawn, but basically we knew we wanted to have a one word title, and in the end we chose something that wasn't loaded for people, so it kind of could be a blank slate for them to listen to the record.

40:57 Drew What does it mean though?

40:59 Thrice What does it mean?

40:59 Drew Does it have a meaning?

41:00 Thrice In the book it's actually really kind of an elaborant of meanings and I think we like the sense of mystery to it.

41:07 Drew Give me a basic meaning of V.

41:10 Thrice The code word for Vesuvius and the entrance to the underground. Alright, there you go.

41:16 Drew Interesting.

41:17 Adam Who's the author?

41:18 Thrice Thomas Binshawn. Binshawn, is that the correct way to say it?

41:21 Drew That's what I was talking about.

41:22 Adam What's he write? What's his big book?

41:24 Thrice The Gravity's Rainbow, V.

41:28 Adam I don't believe in reading. I believe it poisons the mind.

41:32 Thrice I'll go ahead and talk.

41:34 Adam If I can't say it or watch it, I'm out. I don't like that reading business, Drew.

41:38 Caller No pictures?

41:40 Adam A lot of books?

41:41 Drew Pinshawn's not exactly eye candy. It's tough reading. Very weird. Yeah, it's very weird.

41:46 Adam What's that place that stores the books that'll let you borrow them sometimes?

41:51 Drew The library. Library.

41:54 Adam We should forget that one.

41:55 Drew Libra.

41:56 Adam Libra. So it's like a sign. Okay. Because I always, because it doesn't have the word book in it, you know? So it's confusing to me. Library. What's that mean? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. You know, it doesn't have the word book in it.

42:08 Drew Thanks, Libras.

42:09 Adam And then the thing is, is who would borrow a book? You know, what kind of twisted individual will go take a book home? You know what I mean?

42:16 Drew And then to have another person, a book that other people have touched.

42:20 Adam I understand it if somebody comes to you and takes your books away. I understand that. But you going and taking books from other places and then bringing them back and then looking at them and then bringing them back later on.

42:30 Drew Wow.

42:32 Thrice Is it the taking or the bringing it back? The weirds are out.

42:35 Adam To me, borrowing a book is like me jumping over my neighbor's fence, grabbing some of the fecal matter in the backyard and then scurrying back over the fence again.

42:44 Drew Speaking of which, by the way.

42:45 Adam It's confusing for the neighbor, you know?

42:47 Thrice And then putting it back later.

42:48 Adam Later on, two weeks later, putting it back, paying him 17 cents. And watching a couple of unemployed people read a newspaper with a huge wicker cane attached to it. I like that one. What was that, that crazy bonsai cane that was attached to the thing that Japanese guys would fight with, you know, the crazy wicker cane?

43:08 Drew They use it for caning in Cambodia.

43:11 Adam I know, we got 22 cents worth of newspaper. Who's making out with that thing? Someone's going to keister at the Sunday paper and stroll out of the place. Where's it going? We put the newspapers on this crazy, it's like a...

43:25 Drew How long would it take to load the papers on, too?

43:27 Adam Hour 45 minutes, probably. $128 per paper to be loaded onto that thing, because it's a union guy and he's on Golden Time by the time he gets the sports page in there from the Sunday edition. And it's put on some sort of weird barbecue spit thing, like it's going on a rotisserie. What is that thing, Drew? Do they have those?

43:44 Drew No, not anymore. They're like in hotels you'll see them once in a while as a throwback to some sort of turn of the century reference.

43:49 Adam Are you supposed to read the newspaper if that giant stick on it?

43:52 Drew Yeah, it's supposed to keep it kind of organized for you, kind of keep it, you know.

43:56 Adam You know what? I would like to be so rich one day that I had the paper delivered with the stick on it. Every day. Big, big, solid oak hand turned lathe.

44:07 Drew Is there anything we're talking about?

44:08 Adam Spalted stick on my newspaper.

44:10 Drew They'd put it on like a rack.

44:12 Adam Put it on a rack, yeah. It was like all the bad part of barbecuing and none of the meat.

44:18 Drew Or fire.

44:19 Adam Yeah, none of nothing. Bunsen, Von Bunsen?

44:21 Drew He'd hate this.

44:22 Adam He would not be down with this. I can tell you that right now. Yeah, what is that, Drew? Find out the name of that stick and I'm telling you I want my paper delivered on that stick.

44:30 Drew It's in pox on it.

44:34 Adam Cynthia?

44:35 Hi.

44:35 Adam You're 27?

44:37 Caller Yeah.

44:38 Caller My boyfriend, Stingy, with his porno, he won't share it with me.

44:44 Caller I think the porno is great.

44:45 Caller It's educational. It's fun. And his excuse is that his past relationships, the girls are like, I feel uncomfortable and stuff. And I'm like, bust it out, dude. And he's just like, I don't know.

44:57 Caller How do I get on the ride of the pony, daddy? Yeah.

45:01 Adam That woman was 42, who said that.

45:02 Drew Yeah, I think you're freaking him out a little bit.

45:04 Adam Where's your dad?

45:05 Caller What?

45:06 Adam Where's your dad? Something's up here. Passed away.

45:09 Caller When I was 10.

45:10 Drew In jail.

45:11 Adam What happened?

45:13 Caller He died of a massive heart attack in front of the family at home.

45:17 Drew How old was he?

45:18 Caller He was 52.

45:20 Drew Oh, he's older.

45:21 Adam 52. And you were 10. So did he die in front of you?

45:25 Caller Yeah.

45:25 Drew That's awful.

45:28 Adam Also, you know, the people who died of the heart attack, you don't have to put the massive in front of it. We get it. We get it. It was big.

45:34 Caller Well, it was.

45:35 Adam Medium to small doesn't doesn't bring it down, right?

45:38 Caller Well, you know, there's a concussion. There's a slight concussion.

45:42 Adam Yeah, no, the no, no, the slight concussion doesn't doesn't put you in a respirator. That's that's the part like you say heart attack killed me. I say massive heart attack. We do the massive math. You know what I'm saying? So that's that's traumatizing. Right.

45:54 Caller Yeah.

45:55 Adam What? How did you get along with them before that?

45:58 Caller I have my best friend.

46:00 Adam I mean, yeah. Best friend.

46:04 Caller I was like a shadow, you know, like.

46:06 Adam So you saw your essentially your father and your best friend die in front of you.

46:10 Caller Well, yeah.

46:11 Adam So it's very traumatizing.

46:14 Caller I saw my stepfather die in front of me too.

46:17 Drew What happened to him?

46:18 Caller Stroke.

46:19 Drew What? How old was he?

46:21 Caller He was sixty something. Oh my God.

46:23 Drew These men dying. Are they all smokers? Are they drug addicts? No.

46:26 Caller He hit his head. Yeah. My mom, actually my mom just recently passed away like um.

46:31 Drew He hit his head. All right.

46:33 Adam But wait a minute. Was she covered? Did she have insurance? What about her family?

46:36 Drew What do you mean he hit his head?

46:37 Caller Exactly. Now she was on the Indian Reservation in the Goffman Pace Park.

46:43 Drew All right.

46:44 Adam Hold on.

46:44 Drew Hold on.

46:45 Adam That's all I need to know.

46:47 Caller So anyway.

46:48 Adam Hold on a second.

46:49 Drew Coming into a little more focus.

46:50 Adam This is getting thick. Oh, you see fire water. Cynthia. Yeah. Hold on a second. All right. All right. Because I want to talk about this. We have everyone dying in Indian Reservations and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Booster.

47:03 Caller Oh, yeah. Okay.

47:05 Adam Well, Thrice and Studio tonight. We'll take a quick break.

47:07 Caller We'll be right back after this.

47:48 Adam Yeah, everybody, it's Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, Dustin Reilly here tonight, and Thrice. Gonna be on Jimmy Kimmel Live tomorrow night.

47:59 Caller Nervous time.

48:01 Adam Yeah, don't worry about that.

48:02 Caller Nervous time.

48:03 Adam No. You guys have done...

48:05 Caller We've done it before.

48:06 Adam We've done it before, right?

48:07 Caller Yeah. Because it's live, it's extra scary. Like, you go on, we did...

48:11 Adam But wait a minute, it's not live.

48:12 Thrice It's way more...

48:13 Adam But it has the word live in it.

48:15 Thrice No, it's live.

48:16 Caller On the East Coast.

48:17 Adam Is it?

48:17 Thrice Yeah.

48:18 Adam Now, let me see, let me do some math.

48:20 Thrice You can't do it over.

48:21 Adam No. Well, no, you cannot do it over. I mean, here's the thing about TV live or not, for the most part, if you can't do it over, it's the same as doing it live. Either you can do it over, you can stop, or you can do whatever you can't, and if you can't, you can't. And that's what you can't do when you do Jimmy Kimmel.

48:37 Thrice It's pretty mellow on there, though, because it's like an outside show, or at least when we did it last time and this time, there's like a thousand kids out there and it's like a regular show.

48:46 Adam Are you doing the outside show?

48:47 Caller Yeah.

48:48 Adam Oh, that's big time, because they only let the big bands out there. The littler bands have to form inside, at the bar area. You get it?

48:57 Caller It's a good time.

48:58 Adam Not even good inside.

48:58 Thrice I like it outside.

48:59 Adam No, it's good.

49:00 Thrice Nice.

49:00 Adam It's a good sign.

49:01 Thrice It's a big old stage and nice lights.

49:04 Adam No, it's good.

49:06 Drew I think they got that.

49:06 Caller You got that good part?

49:08 Adam I mean, it's really good. That was a lot of... Almost every time I do JKL, as I like to call it, it's the band is performing over by the bar with like 25, 30 people standing around. They don't let the big ones in. Where are we, Drew? Cynthia?

49:24 Drew That's Cynthia in the Indian Reservation.

49:26 Adam Yeah, Cynthia?

49:27 Caller Hi, what's up?

49:28 Adam All right, so let's just do a little backtracking here.

49:32 Drew You had a dad who died of a heart attack. Was he diabetic?

49:35 Caller Yes, he was.

49:36 Drew Okay, and he was North American Indian?

49:39 Caller Yeah, both my parents are Native American.

49:41 Drew I get it. Was he a smoker, a cigarette smoker?

49:44 Caller He smoked for a short period when he was younger.

49:46 Drew So a smoker with diabetes.

49:48 Adam Short period. Short period.

49:49 Caller He didn't smoke when I was growing up at all.

49:52 Drew Did he drink or do drugs or anything?

49:54 Caller No. I was drunk once. I was on a Christmas party.

49:59 Drew It was from 1985 to 1997.

50:01 Adam Long Christmas party. Every day is Christmas when you're on the residence.

50:05 Drew All right. So there's a little bit more than just, oh my God, he just dropped dead. This young, healthy guy. He had diabetes.

50:10 Adam Well, he had diabetes.

50:11 Drew Yeah. So, OK. So and then your stepfather, you said he had a stroke, but he hit his head?

50:16 Adam On the way down.

50:16 Caller My niece, like in a baby seat in the back. And then like he hit his head. And later on that night, he just, yeah, just passed away.

50:24 Adam He's doing what with the baby seat?

50:25 Drew Well, the head injuries have nothing to do with stroke. So what are we talking about here?

50:30 Caller I'm assuming that's kind of what it was, because he was complaining about having a real bad headache before he went to sleep.

50:38 Drew Well, strokes don't hurt. So that has nothing to do with the stroke. Did they do an autopsy to figure out what happened?

50:42 Caller I never got that involved with like what happened.

50:46 Drew OK, so we don't really, we don't know what happened to him.

50:49 Adam Well, I heard a whole thing about North American Indians. American Indians get in the diabetes and have a huge problem with weight and diabetes. Is he big?

51:02 Drew Yeah. Diabetes and alcoholism. Those are the two biggies.

51:05 Caller Well, I'm the second one.

51:08 Drew You have alcoholism?

51:08 Caller Well, I have like a need to drink.

51:12 Drew That's called alcoholism. That's called alcoholism.

51:15 Caller Well, I'm not like technically smart like you gentlemen.

51:19 Adam You have to be a genius to be an alcoholic.

51:21 Caller Exactly.

51:22 Adam Quite the contrary.

51:23 Caller I'm supposed to travel with it.

51:24 Adam Okay. And how's your diabetes or your weight or all that stuff doing?

51:30 Caller I weigh like 145 and I'm like 5'6 or 5'9. Okay.

51:34 Drew That's good.

51:36 Adam And what else?

51:37 Drew She likes porn.

51:38 Adam Oh, you like porn?

51:39 Caller Yeah. And my boyfriend's like, oh, weird it out that I like it too.

51:43 Adam Yeah. You know what? There's no American Indian porn. They got a lot of black porn. There's a lot of Asian porn.

51:51 Caller When the Indians were running around in the little leather cloths and the white man was coming over and stuff, they would just have sex on rocks and stuff.

51:57 Adam Yeah, I know. I'm just saying, why didn't someone film it?

52:01 Drew So there was Indian porn. It was long heritage.

52:03 Adam Yeah, but I don't want to see some cave drawing of an Indian with a boner. I want to see some of them get it on. You know what I mean? Think about that.

52:10 Drew Camera obscura.

52:11 Adam It would be hot to have the Lando Lakes butter squad going down on some bato. Yeah, big squanto.

52:19 Caller You could rent Clan of the Cave Bear.

52:22 Adam Clan of the Cave Bear?

52:23 Caller Yeah, Darryl Hannah's in that somehow.

52:25 Thrice She's with Indians and raping.

52:26 Adam No, it's not really. That doesn't run just cave people. Stylized.

52:29 Yeah.

52:30 Adam These are blonde Indians. Come on, Anderson. That's not it.

52:35 Caller I think she's an albino or something.

52:37 Adam The point is, it's not going to fill my void for North American Indian porn.

52:42 Drew When I was 11, I did it for me.

52:43 Adam Clan of the Cave Bear. Cynthia?

52:46 Drew Hi.

52:47 Adam I don't want to sit through two hours and no talking. That's almost like reading a book.

52:51 Caller Well, it's actually helping me, making me feel better, because I've been freaking out. Like, what's wrong with me?

52:57 Drew That you like porn? Well, alcoholics tend to like highly arousing sex and thrill-seeking behavior and stuff, so it makes sense that you like them. That's fine. You would actually like that you'd be drawn in that direction even if your alcoholism weren't active, because that's just sort of the way you configured when you have that disease state. So it's all right. It's fine. That may freak him out a little bit, because maybe he kind of senses the energy behind it. Sort of, he's kind of pushing back a little bit. But yeah, he needs to get with it a little bit.

53:24 Adam Cynthia, what are you doing? Are you working?

53:27 Caller I'm at my work and it's also my place of residence.

53:31 Caller So I live here.

53:34 Adam Read tarot cards, neurotic massage. What do you do?

53:37 Caller No, I mean, I clean the place, but my boyfriend's general manager at this place.

53:44 Drew And you live there?

53:45 Caller Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I'm allowed to say the name of the place.

53:47 Drew Like is it a hotel, an apartment complex or something?

53:50 Caller No, it's a theater.

53:52 Drew A theater? A theater, yeah.

53:55 Adam Any adult themes or just?

53:58 Caller It's like magic stuff.

54:01 Drew Okay. What does that mean?

54:02 Adam I don't know, but when I hear magic, it's time to move on.

54:04 Thrice It's adult magic.

54:05 Adam Adult magic. Don't see that porn either. You know the worst place, you know where the saddest, I'll tell you, you know where the saddest place to live? And a lot of these places have places to live above them. There's a weird sort of thing where they would build a business and they would build a little apartment above it. Like old days, they'd build a liquor store and there would be that little apartment above it or a little deli or a little corner market and there would be that little apartment above it and the guy who worked at the place just lived there. He'd just slide down a fireman's pole. He'd be at the cash register. It was actually kind of the way to go because he could look after it and do all that stuff.

54:38 Drew It's write-offs and things.

54:39 Adam Yeah. You know a place that builds the little apartment above it? Coinop Car Wash. You see the Coinop Car Wash with the little apartment kind of thing above it? You look at some of the older ones, especially. I have seen a few new ones too. It's a little about the size of the main square island. There's a little stairs going up. There's always a little office or something above there.

55:02 Drew Is that the manager living?

55:04 Adam Somebody's up there. And it's like, look, as long as you can keep the towelettes fresh and you can keep the soap and the dispenser and you can make sure there's change in the dollar bill change machine. You live up there, but that's just crazy. That's a depressing place to live above the coin on, yeah?

55:26 Thrice Group showers.

55:27 Adam Yeah.

55:27 Caller Yeah.

55:28 Adam Just it's, it, uh, I imagine would have its perks and I would have lived there for many years, many years of my life. I would jump that for quite, quite a few years.

55:35 Caller Yeah.

55:36 Adam Natasha.

55:37 Caller Yes.

55:39 Adam 23.

55:40 Caller Yes. Hello. 23.

55:41 Thrice What's up?

55:43 Caller Well, I was just curious, is there anything wrong? Um, the only, the only way my boyfriend would want to have sex with me is that I'm, you know, on the time of the month. First, it was just that he wanted to go down on me only on that time. And then ever since I wanted to let him go down on me on that time, that's the only time he ever wants to make love to me.

56:06 Drew Wait, wait, wait. He actually knows you're on your period or just coincidentally, whenever he really is going for it is around that time.

56:13 Caller No, no, no. It's when I'm on that time. He knows I'm on that time.

56:17 Drew How does he know that?

56:18 Adam Hold on. Hand the phone to him. What's your place? I know he's standing there.

56:22 Caller No, he's not standing here. He's actually at work.

56:25 Adam Give him the phone.

56:26 Drew There are guys that will actually become more sexually interested around that time. And some women get that way too.

56:33 Adam Yeah.

56:34 Drew But I'm just wondering if she's saying that he's just interested then or more interested then, or he has instructed you, Natasha, to alert him when there is menstrual blood so he can then go down.

56:45 Adam Well, she hangs the sheet with the spot out the window and he knows when he's driving by to stop.

56:50 Drew So which is it?

56:51 Caller He just, when he knows it, he, that's all.

56:54 Drew How does he know it?

56:55 Caller Well, I live with the man, so.

56:58 Drew So you tell him, you tell him that's what's happening.

57:00 Caller Yeah, and that's, you know, at first I was just, you know, really like, wow, you know, it was gross. It was, you know, that's gross. But then I let him start going down on me. And then now that's all he ever wants to do is only when I'm on the time of the month. And then now it's only when I'm on the time of the month that he'll want to have sex with me now.

57:20 Adam Wow.

57:20 Caller I don't understand. I think it's gross because it's, you know, more wet. And, you know, I think he has a bogus mind.

57:28 Adam Put him on the phone. Would you hand him the phone, please? Hand him the phone. Where?

57:34 Caller Where does he work?

57:35 Caller That's low.

57:37 Adam Where does he work?

57:38 Caller He's a security guard.

57:40 Adam No, there's a shocker.

57:42 Caller Yeah.

57:43 Adam What's he guarding?

57:44 Caller Yeah.

57:46 Adam Is he guarding anything? You know, I secretly think I think they hire security guards so that guy doesn't rip stuff off.

57:53 Drew Right.

57:54 Adam I think they just see guys milling around the warehouse and like, hey, put this shirt on. Here's some pepper spray. Sit here. We'll give you eight dollars an hour. And it's like, oh, there's one more guy. It's not going to risk this place. So because he was planning on ripping the place off before they gave him a job guarding it, he was gamefully employed. Oh, he's employed. Yeah.

58:11 Drew Can't get the bennies by ripping the place off.

58:13 Adam No bennies. Natasha.

58:16 Caller Yes.

58:17 Adam What do you do?

58:19 Caller I'm a nurse.

58:20 Adam Oh, what happened to you?

58:23 Caller I love my job.

58:25 Adam I know. But what happened? Molested?

58:27 Caller No, I love my job. I took care of my grandparents.

58:30 Adam I don't mean molested at work. I mean, you take care of your grandparents.

58:35 Caller Yeah, I take care of geriatrics, elderly.

58:39 Adam Where's your parents?

58:41 Caller I have my father. I recently just began speaking to my mother.

58:46 Drew Oh, here we go.

58:47 Adam It's on now.

58:48 Caller I was young.

58:49 Adam Oh, that's where the nurse part comes in.

58:53 Caller Yeah.

58:54 Adam Yeah, we had to be a mother. Yeah. How old were you when your mother left?

59:00 Caller She left when we were little. Like, I was, I think, four years old when she actually left.

59:06 Drew That's awful.

59:07 Adam And where did she go?

59:09 Caller She just left. She was on drugs.

59:12 Drew Yeah.

59:14 Adam Now it's starting to come together.

59:15 Caller My father, my grandparents.

59:18 Drew That's horrible.

59:18 Adam And she didn't leave the country or the state or anything. She just was getting high.

59:23 Caller You know, I didn't, I never knew if she was dead or alive.

59:27 Adam And when did she resurface?

59:29 Caller Well, my sister actually met up with our grandmother. She heard the name and it just kind of, you know, came about my grandmother and my aunt, my mom's sister. And then it kind of surfaced up from that.

59:45 Adam So your mom was out of your life from age four to just recently?

59:50 Caller Yes.

59:52 Drew Is she in recovery now?

59:54 Caller Yeah. You know, my grandmother made a big, you know, spot, a womanly spot in my life. So that, that helped a lot.

1:00:01 Adam Yeah. But your mom cutting out when you're four is a huge deal. Devastating.

1:00:05 Drew Huge deal.

1:00:06 Adam And not coming back and getting dumped off at your grandparents. And they've taken this energy and turned it to taking care of the elderly, which is a good example of sort of taking lemons and making lemonade. That's, you know.

1:00:20 Drew But it tends to drive you to subjugate your own needs on behalf of others.

1:00:25 Adam Yeah. And I don't trust the night watchman who only shows up three days out of the month in the bedroom. I don't trust this guy.

1:00:36 Caller Yeah. I wasn't sure if that was normal or...

1:00:39 Adam No. I'm going to deem it abnormal. Now, if a guy wants to, you know, if you're a guy where the flow doesn't get in the way, that's a different thing. That's a man of exquisite sexuality and passion, like Dr. Drew.

1:00:55 Drew This guy's seeking it.

1:00:56 Adam But if this guy's seeking it out, that's something else.

1:00:59 Drew Yeah.

1:01:00 Caller And that's it. You know, he doesn't want to make love with me when I'm...

1:01:04 Adam And Natasha, you picked him. So I don't trust you.

1:01:08 Drew Right.

1:01:08 Caller You don't trust me.

1:01:10 Adam Well, you have the trauma instinct. You have the trauma instinct. That means you hook up with abusers.

1:01:15 Caller Well, he's been very great. I've been in some long relationship. I've been in a relationship for five years, and that kind of just like fell through. Why?

1:01:26 Adam What happened?

1:01:27 Caller And this man came into my life and wow, I've never felt the things I feel with him.

1:01:32 Thrice Sure.

1:01:33 Drew Wow.

1:01:34 Adam Oh, he come riding in on a Steed or Moped, whichever. Technically, a Moped. He's out in the parking lot of the Costco right now till 6 a.m. Only wants to go down on you when it's that time of the month. You could never do better than this.

1:01:50 Drew Oh, my God.

1:01:52 Adam Oh, my God.

1:01:53 Drew Chivalrous.

1:01:53 Adam Oh, I and I and I'm picturing. I'm going back to the the glory days of film picturing this guy. You know, Clark Gable type. Harris back and ask God. Hey, maybe a kerchief tied around his neck. Not even a carey Scott. Kerry Grant. Yeah. Monocle, Debonair, Monocle, Spence pulling out, pulling being being chauffeured around. And one of those cars where the chauffeur was left open. But you were inside. That's a little f you to the guy driving the cars. It'll be it's snowing outside. Your product cars can be convertible. They know roof on your part. My part. I'll have a crystal vase in my part. Well, Daisy in it. You'll be out there with a pigeon scrapping on your head. Oh, they're going to extend the roof for another 23 inches. Go ahead and cover the guy's head. Now, leave that open. I back then, that old deal was I got money. He don't got money. I'm indoors. He's not going to show you. I'll put these spats over my shoes. They don't. What do they do? Nothing. You know how expensive they were and how long they took to put on. That's how rich I am. That's what they would do. Now everyone's at Old Navy and driving a Prius. What the F? Hardly worth being rich anymore. I'll tell you that. You don't get to abuse people. You don't get to grease anyone's palm. You know, you don't buy. You can't buy, you know, politicians, judges, judges and things. It used to be if you had a couple of bucks, you just you make your own rules. You have your own laws. You just enslave a few people. You know what I mean? It was good. It was awesome.

1:03:27 Drew How dare you?

1:03:28 Adam Now it's like, oh, we're all going to the old Navy. We're getting some cargo pants. And then it's off to TGI Friday for a burger. We're getting a little performance, please. That's about it. And then you'd have like used to be able to have stuff like, hey, man, if you had home theater, you're rich. And everyone's got a home theater. Everyone's everyone's driving. Everyone's got air conditioning. Everyone's got an airbag. It ain't worth it. It's not worth it. You just can't rub it in anyone's face anymore. Who are we talking to, Drew?

1:03:54 Caller Natasha?

1:03:55 Drew We're done.

1:03:55 Adam She's fine.

1:03:56 Caller Paul.

1:03:57 Adam All right. Any bets on Natasha's weight?

1:04:03 Drew 180.

1:04:04 Adam 180?

1:04:05 Caller Yeah.

1:04:05 Adam So you're going, you're going light.

1:04:07 Caller Yeah. All right.

1:04:08 Adam Riley?

1:04:09 Drew 4'3.

1:04:10 Caller I'll go 190. But short also.

1:04:15 Caller I have no idea.

1:04:16 Adam You want to venture a guess?

1:04:18 Caller I'll go with 300.

1:04:19 Thrice I'll say, I'll say two.

1:04:22 Adam Two.

1:04:23 Caller Two L's.

1:04:24 Adam I'm going, boy, do I go over two or, you know, they may lie a little on the radio. I'm going to go 205. I'm going up top. Natasha?

1:04:32 Caller Very proportioned.

1:04:34 Adam Big Gal?

1:04:35 Caller Yes.

1:04:36 Adam What do you want? What are you coming in at?

1:04:39 Caller Excuse me?

1:04:40 Adam What weight you coming in at?

1:04:43 Caller I'm 180 pounds.

1:04:44 Caller Oh, Drew.

1:04:46 Caller I'm 180.

1:04:48 Adam Yeah.

1:04:49 Caller I'm 5'7.

1:04:51 Adam Okay. Very curvaceous. Wow. Nice. All right. I'll focus on those. Very proportionate. All right.

1:04:59 Caller My nurse even commented to me, where do you keep your weight at? That's good.

1:05:05 Adam She was 370 pounds.

1:05:07 Caller What do you mean by nurse? Actually, she was 157 and she looked really big.

1:05:15 Drew What do you mean by nurse?

1:05:16 Caller I portion my weight very well.

1:05:19 Adam She has a nurse.

1:05:19 Drew What do you mean you're a nurse?

1:05:21 Caller No, my nurse, the, you know, when I go see the doctor.

1:05:24 Adam No, no, my nurse.

1:05:25 Drew You said you're a nurse.

1:05:26 Adam My nurse. It's one word, my nurse. She's a foreigner.

1:05:31 Drew What do you mean my nurse?

1:05:31 Adam It's her neighbor, my nurse. My nurse.

1:05:34 Caller That's a lot of small children.

1:05:35 Drew What do you mean by that?

1:05:36 Caller Miners.

1:05:38 Adam People that dredge coal from the ground. A lot of them have commented after coming up from the mines that she carries your weight well.

1:05:47 Caller Lights with helmets.

1:05:47 Drew Natasha, what do you mean by my nurse?

1:05:50 Caller My nurse. Everyone has to go see the doctor. So the doctor's nurse, when she takes my weight, even with her, where do I go?

1:06:02 Drew Yes, the nurse that works at your doctor's office.

1:06:07 Caller No, I'm an independent nurse. I'm independent. I go to people's homes.

1:06:12 Adam Right, but you have a doctor.

1:06:14 Drew You said my nurse.

1:06:15 Adam You have a doctor.

1:06:16 Caller I have a doctor that has a nurse.

1:06:17 Adam And that doctor has a nurse.

1:06:19 Caller Yeah, which is my nurse.

1:06:21 Adam That's your nurse.

1:06:22 Caller But it's my nurse.

1:06:23 Adam I wish I had that kind of self-esteem where I could think of the dental hygienist who works for my dentist is mine, and the nurse is mine, and I don't know what they're doing the 300 days out of the year that I'm not there.

1:06:34 Drew Waiting for you.

1:06:34 Adam I imagine sitting on a bar stool, looking at their watch.

1:06:37 Drew Where's Adam?

1:06:38 Adam On the front door with that thing, that cup with the string and the ball on it. Trying to get that thing in there.

1:06:46 Caller Reading your charts and crying.

1:06:47 Just crying.

1:06:50 Adam Minors.

1:06:51 Caller Minors.

1:06:55 Adam By the way, Drew, 180, and you deserve applause for the 180, although you'll not get any from this bitter crowd. I will claim a moral victory that 180 in reality, if I threw her on the scale right now, I'd get a 205 right now.

1:07:09 Drew She didn't qualify it as, my nurse said I'm 180.

1:07:12 Adam Her nurse wanted to know where she hid the weight. You can always answer my huge ass.

1:07:19 Caller That's how I answer.

1:07:21 Caller My gunt.

1:07:24 Drew Let's take a break.

1:07:25 Caller We're gonna take a break. Paul?

1:07:27 Caller Uh, hello?

1:07:29 Adam 22?

1:07:30 Caller Yeah.

1:07:30 Adam You've been doing heroin for six months?

1:07:33 Caller Well, actually I've been doing it longer than that, but I've been shooting it for six months.

1:07:37 Adam Shooting it for six months.

1:07:38 Drew What's your question?

1:07:39 Adam Are you high right now?

1:07:40 Drew Oh, he has to be.

1:07:40 Caller Yeah, obviously.

1:07:41 You're a heroin addict.

1:07:43 Caller Yeah, pretty much.

1:07:45 Drew Pretty much? You're a heroin addict.

1:07:47 Adam He says pretty much.

1:07:48 Drew Absolutely, you're a heroin addict. Okay, what's the question?

1:07:52 Caller My right arm is like numb.

1:07:54 You're a heroin addict.

1:07:55 Caller It's like I have no blood flow in my arm. And I was wondering what I did. Maybe like pinched off a vein or something. I don't know.

1:08:03 Drew It hurts. It's numb. Like your little finger and fourth finger?

1:08:07 Caller Actually, my middle finger is just completely numb. But when I wake up in the mornings, I mean, or anytime I'm laying down, my entire forearm goes numb.

1:08:16 Drew No, it's probably from your injecting. You probably hit a nerve. You probably destroyed a nerve.

1:08:20 Caller Oh, really? Okay, and one more quick question. I was wondering why I don't sneeze.

1:08:26 Drew Why?

1:08:29 Caller When I'm on opiates, I don't sneeze.

1:08:30 Drew Yeah, I imagine, I don't know this, but I imagine opiates suppress sneeze in that when you come off opiates, you sneeze like crazy. It's a lot of sneezing very often.

1:08:40 Caller Oh, really?

1:08:40 Caller Yeah.

1:08:41 Drew So it's most suppressive.

1:08:43 Thrice Is that weird to notice not sneezing?

1:08:45 Drew Yeah, because you don't.

1:08:47 Adam Well, I think you notice sneezing when you're off it and therefore you do the math, but it's really you sneezing more when you're off, not you not sneezing when you're on.

1:08:56 Caller Well, no, it's just I do not sneeze at all when I'm on them. At all. I realize that after like a year. I haven't sneezed in like a year.

1:09:05 Adam But also, let me say this about sneezing. Some folks are sneezers, like Jimmy, Sneezer. I'm not a sneezer. I rarely almost almost never do it.

1:09:16 Caller Well, you see, that's the thing is I used to sneeze a lot before I started doing opiates.

1:09:20 Drew Okay.

1:09:21 Adam Well, there you go. All right. Well, one more reason to keep chasing that dragon. Yeah.

1:09:27 Drew Yeah. It's a bad time. You lose that nerve bar. You're going to be in big trouble.

1:09:30 Adam Where do you get your heroin?

1:09:32 Caller Well, I live in Santa Ana and I don't know if you've ever been here, but it's always this way.

1:09:37 Caller Yeah.

1:09:37 Adam Where don't you get it? That's right.

1:09:39 Caller Yeah.

1:09:39 Adam You go down to the Y. You get the vending machine at the Y in the men's locker room. You get in Santa Ana. So what's the plan? I mean, are you going to quit?

1:09:49 Caller I guess I'll have to eventually if I want to live. Right. That's true. I'd like to be high. I want to be high. So.

1:09:56 Adam You do?

1:09:57 Drew Okay.

1:09:57 Caller Yeah.

1:09:58 Adam Hey, Drew, if someone really is just enjoying it at this particular time, it's going to be hard to talk them out of it, right?

1:10:03 Drew Yeah. They love it. And that's that's part of the reason they before they really before it gets through to them, the profound destruction that the addiction has, it has to get severe. You have to nearly die. Then they start going, well, I guess I have to stop.

1:10:17 Caller All right. All right. All right.

1:10:18 Adam Are you able to work, Paul?

1:10:20 Caller Oh, yeah. I work six days a week.

1:10:23 Drew As what?

1:10:24 Caller Well, I actually am a technician at a networking company. We set up people's networks.

1:10:29 Adam I pull cable. Is that you taking a crap or is that actually me?

1:10:36 Drew Did I have to watch the video today of Steve-O getting crapped on by an elephant?

1:10:39 Adam Yeah, that was kind of awesome.

1:10:41 Drew Every time I close my eyes, I see it.

1:10:45 Adam Watch Too Late Tonight on Comedy Central. You get to see Steve-O get urinated and fecalated by an elephant.

1:10:50 Drew Lying in an elephant going, I want a golden shower.

1:10:53 Adam Elephant. Here's the thing. Elephant does not whiz on you. Elephant sort of dumps on you.

1:10:57 Caller He unloads.

1:10:59 Drew Gates open.

1:11:00 Thrice Fire hose.

1:11:00 Adam Well, let's put it.

1:11:01 Drew Oh no. It's more like a waterfall. It's just. Yeah.

1:11:04 Adam Well, you think of it, you think of it, think of it this way. Hold on a second, Paul. This way, you at 190 pounds, when you go in to do your business, you can make a mess. That's 190. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, when you have a full, you have full bladder and you're taking a whiz, it's going hard and kicking up some foam and making noise and spraying around. I mean, that's just you at 190.

1:11:26 Drew Now you're 6,000 pounds.

1:11:27 Adam Now you're 6,000 pounds. Imagine you. I mean, I've had some roommates that have done some Dukes that were so big that when they flushed your toilet, couldn't find out, the Duke could not figure out which end to go in to the opening first. They just spun around like a propeller and left a continuous circular skid mark all the way around. Think, had to take a pool cue and break the thing up to get it down. This is 185 pound man.

1:11:50 Drew Yes, yes, yes.

1:11:51 Adam I think elephants go 4 or 5,000 pounds, maybe 2,000, 3,000 pounds.

1:11:58 Thrice Was it kind of solid or no?

1:11:59 Drew It was solid but broke apart as it landed on Steve-O's head. And then Steve-O vomited all over the place.

1:12:07 Caller It was just cool.

1:12:08 Drew That's great.

1:12:13 Adam Well, anyway, watch Steve-O on Too Late Tonight.

1:12:15 Thrice Back to sneezing. Is it bad when people suppress their sneeze?

1:12:20 Drew Is it unhealthy?

1:12:21 Thrice No, it's unhealthy. Well, I just don't understand how they do it.

1:12:24 Adam Suppress it, you mean, once they're in, once they're, it's taking hold.

1:12:27 Thrice Or it's a huge sneeze but then it comes.

1:12:30 Adam Yeah, I don't, you know, I mean, it's gotta be tough on your eardrums, doesn't it?

1:12:34 Drew It's eardrums and it's a Valsalva maneuver. It's not the healthiest thing people can do but it's not that big a deal.

1:12:39 Adam Valsalva maneuvers like when you.

1:12:41 Drew Bear down. Bear down.

1:12:43 Adam Yeah, but you do that when you're lifting weights.

1:12:44 Drew I know, where you're supposed to, not supposed to breathe or go to the bathroom. That's why your trainer is always going, breathe, breathe. You're supposed to.

1:12:50 Adam I know you breathe and breathe and breathe.

1:12:51 Drew But then when it's time to do the deadlift, like, yeah, it's the same Valsalva is not a healthy move particularly.

1:12:56 Thrice Is there a technical term for when you look at a light and it helps you sneeze?

1:13:01 Adam How does that work? You're not heard that.

1:13:03 Thrice Someone told me it's only like one out of ten people. But if you have to sneeze, it doesn't work for me.

1:13:08 Adam Doesn't.

1:13:09 Drew Doesn't work for me either.

1:13:10 Adam It really works for me.

1:13:11 Drew That what?

1:13:13 Adam If you have to sneeze or you feel something coming on but it's not quite there and you're sort of like, you know what it's like? You haven't feel like back to the duke, you feel like you take that duke but it's just not happening. You drink a cup of coffee and oh, here we go. Now it's on. Steve O puts his head in the toilet. If you feel like you have to sneeze or it's kind of hanging around a little bit and you just go up and look into a light source, a light bulb will do it but the sun, the sun will really, will really get you. Like if it's hanging around, it'll push you over the edge.

1:13:41 Drew Well, for some reason it's causing vasodilatation of what's called the quesal box plexus here.

1:13:45 Adam Quesal box.

1:13:47 Drew It just sort of dilates and then it's a sneeze. Now why looking up at a bright light would cause the dilatation?

1:13:52 Adam It feels, it really feels like it's something with your eyes or something.

1:13:56 Thrice It's definitely not everybody though.

1:13:57 Adam Oh, maybe it's not everybody. I don't think it's one in ten people. It's probably more like half the people. If you look up into the sun, it'll get you going. It won't make you sneeze if you don't have to sneeze, but if it's right there, it'll push it.

1:14:10 Thrice Try it.

1:14:11 Adam You never tried it, though.

1:14:12 Drew No, I can.

1:14:13 Thrice I've tried it. It doesn't.

1:14:16 Adam No, no, no, Drew, you have to sneeze now.

1:14:19 Drew I am.

1:14:20 Adam Oh, shut up. You're not a good.

1:14:21 Drew No, I just sneeze. So for some reason, every night, the second hour of this room, I always start to sneeze.

1:14:25 Adam But Drew, don't do that crap. Don't about sneeze. Don't see nothing. You got to sneeze, all right? You got to sneeze, then.

1:14:32 Drew All right, no, I say I could feel like a little something.

1:14:36 Adam Well, let's go.

1:14:37 Drew I'm not saying I'm about to sneeze.

1:14:38 Adam Well, ten seconds ago, you're on the verge of sneezing.

1:14:42 Caller That's fine.

1:14:43 Drew We'll see if I sneeze.

1:14:46 Caller Sneeze watch, oh, five.

1:14:50 Thrice It was like we were on a just waiting for something stupid to happen. We were on a morning show on some radio station. Gallagher was outside.

1:14:58 Drew Gallagher?

1:14:59 Thrice See, Gallagher on a radio station. What? First of all, what are you thinking there? He's outside. Well, I'm going to smash something, but he wouldn't smash anything because there weren't enough people outside. And so he's just yelling and.

1:15:12 Adam I think he's a mad man. But, you know, the who got his, who the hell got his start doing ventriloquism on the radio? Bergman? Yeah.

1:15:23 Drew Edgar Bergman.

1:15:24 Adam Edgar Bergman.

1:15:26 Drew Bergman.

1:15:26 Adam Got his start doing ventriloquism on the radio. Ventriloquist used to be popular, and ventriloquist used to do radio shows. And for 10 years, there was ventriloquism going on the radio, which is insane. It's almost like we have a mime as a guest today. Oh, look at that. He's trapped in a box. Oh, he's pulling a rope. It's crazy. He's walking against the wind, everybody. Uh-oh, he's bored. Look at him. He's bored by my speech. Look at him. Come on, Drew, sneeze right there.

1:15:58 Drew Try looking up.

1:15:59 Adam No, I would argue that if you really had to sneeze and I took you into the bright sunshine, you would feel it. You'll feel the difference. You can't just say I have to sneeze. You got to sneeze.

1:16:12 Drew We'll see if I sneeze, but Adam, just because things happen to you doesn't mean they happen to everybody.

1:16:15 Adam I know, but it's true. It does. No, I could get you. I get you. But Drew, you know what? You're just, you're contrarian. That's your problem. Remember that time? Remember we got in that conversation about putting metal in your mouth versus putting wood in your mouth? Yeah, yeah.

1:16:28 Drew That doesn't affect me.

1:16:29 Adam I told a lot of people that story and they're like, what? Is he high? There's no difference.

1:16:34 Drew Yeah, I can't.

1:16:35 Adam I know you can't. I can't.

1:16:36 Drew That's just me. That's rare. I know Stan is rare. I'm just saying I could.

1:16:40 Adam No, no, no.

1:16:40 Caller You... Okay.

1:16:42 Adam All right. No, no.

1:16:44 Caller All right.

1:16:44 We'll take a break.

1:16:45 Adam We'll be back after this.

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1:17:30 Caller Hey, everybody.

1:17:31 Adam Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Drew took a solo silent whiz, did a little soul searching, came back and realized the Ace man was right. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191-THRICE in studio tonight. Gonna be playing the outdoor stage, thank you very much, at the Jimmy Kimmel Live Show, or JKL.

1:17:54 Thrice Unless there's lightning.

1:17:55 Adam Oh, yeah.

1:17:56 Thrice So we're hoping there's not.

1:17:57 Caller That could be cool.

1:17:59 Adam No, they'll cancel it.

1:18:00 Thrice They'll move us inside. They'll move us down greatest.

1:18:04 Caller Oh, yeah.

1:18:06 Adam I don't think... I think the storm is passing, so I hear. Yes?

1:18:11 Thrice Supposedly.

1:18:11 Caller All right.

1:18:13 Drew The bad stuff.

1:18:14 Adam Uh, Robert?

1:18:15 Caller Yes.

1:18:17 Adam 23?

1:18:17 Thrice Bob Bunsen.

1:18:19 Adam Bob Bunsen?

1:18:21 Thrice Hello?

1:18:21 Adam What's happening?

1:18:22 Caller Not that much. I actually have a question for Thrice.

1:18:25 Adam All right.

1:18:26 Thrice Shoot.

1:18:27 Caller I was just kind of curious to. I was wondering what in what involved your ideas with the new album VSU that you guys didn't get to do on the older albums, like Identity Crisis or Arson Ambulance, things like that.

1:18:42 Thrice Um, we had a lot of time to write this one. We kind of just said we were going to not let anything push us around scheduling stuff. So we were at home writing for nine months or so and writing on the road before that. And there's a lot of different instrumentation, a lot of keys, piano, roads, organ, synths. So it helps us create a lot of different moods and soundscapes, I guess. And I don't know. It's, it's much better than the previous records in our estimation.

1:19:15 Adam Robert? Yes. You going to get it tomorrow?

1:19:19 Caller I sure am.

1:19:20 Adam All right. Have you downloaded any songs yet?

1:19:24 Caller I heard two songs on Myspace, and I'm really, really, really enjoying them. Like, I've been a big fan of your guys' music for quite some time now. My first show was, I saw you guys at Calvary Chapel in Downey.

1:19:36 Thrice That was a long time ago, man.

1:19:38 Caller Yeah. And I mean, you guys-

1:19:39 Thrice Six years ago.

1:19:40 Caller You guys have continuously just been blowing my mind, man. Your guys' music is awesome. And like when the Illusion of Safety came out, like I listened to it almost every day and I never got sick of it. And like to this day, I'll still play it like a couple of times a week.

1:19:53 Caller Oh, thanks for sticking with us, man.

1:19:56 Adam How's everything else going, Robert? You working?

1:19:58 Caller Yeah, I'm actually, I'm actually working in their hometown of Irvine, actually. And I work pretty, I do a pretty good job. I can't say where I work at. It pretty much involves selling phones.

1:20:08 Caller So-

1:20:10 Drew So you can't mention Verizon.

1:20:12 Adam Can't say where you work at is either a real good thing or a real bad thing. It's a good, you know, high, high ranking government official or you just work some porn shop and scare your dad might be less.

1:20:22 Caller There you go.

1:20:23 Adam You're going to go with the latter or the former.

1:20:25 Drew Yeah, I think the porn shop.

1:20:26 Adam All right. Let's talk to Erica. Who's been on hold for 82 minutes.

1:20:33 Drew Yes.

1:20:33 Adam Well, maybe if you wouldn't talk so much. Erica?

1:20:36 Caller Yes.

1:20:36 Adam Nineteen?

1:20:37 Drew Erica.

1:20:38 Caller Are you small?

1:20:41 Caller No.

1:20:42 Drew Uh-oh.

1:20:43 Adam Did you get molested?

1:20:44 Drew Yes.

1:20:46 Caller Uh, kinda. I mean, I don't know. It's kind of a long story. Yes.

1:20:51 Drew Well, something bad happened. So anyway, what's your question?

1:20:54 Adam How do you know something bad happened?

1:20:55 Drew I can feel it.

1:20:56 Adam Yeah, I can too. It's that little voice.

1:20:58 Caller Yeah.

1:21:01 Adam What happened to you? Yeah, it doesn't matter. Your voice is 3'11.

1:21:06 Drew Yeah.

1:21:06 Adam What happened?

1:21:08 Caller Well, like, I was really, really little and I didn't really remember it. And then, like, when I became sexually active with my boyfriend, I just, like, I was, like...

1:21:18 Drew Flashbacks.

1:21:21 Caller What?

1:21:21 Drew You had flashbacks.

1:21:23 Caller Yeah, I was just, like, well, you know, like, because basically what it was is, like, basically, like, I had dry humping or whatever. And, like...

1:21:34 Adam Who were you dry humping?

1:21:36 Caller Well, like, that's just, like, someone who I trusted when I was older, like, made me do that when I was really little. And I didn't know it was bad at the time. You know, I didn't know, like, what was going on.

1:21:50 Adam Who made you dry hump?

1:21:52 Caller My grandpa.

1:21:53 Caller Oh, that's weird.

1:21:55 Caller Like, he didn't, like, he, like, I had my, he babysit me and he'd say that, like, we were, he said, like, we were playing horse or whatever.

1:22:03 Caller Yeah.

1:22:04 Caller And then when I, yeah, and then when I got older and started, like, becoming sexually active with my boyfriend, and then me and my boyfriend broke up for a little bit. And then I started talking to one of my friends and then, like, it all just, like, I was like, whoa, you know?

1:22:19 Adam Yeah.

1:22:20 Caller Like, is that really what my grandpa was doing?

1:22:25 Adam Where's grandpa now?

1:22:28 Caller He lives, like, in a different town than me. Like, I moved away from my family.

1:22:34 Drew That kind of puts a fine point on it, huh?

1:22:36 Adam He lives in a different town than you. All right, well, I've pinpointed him here on my map of the United States.

1:22:40 Drew I can see it, I can see it.

1:22:42 Adam Yeah, the guy's address. We're going to set a strike force team in there right now.

1:22:46 Drew Oh, look, oh, there's his house.

1:22:47 Adam They just phoned in there outside the house. He lives in a different town than you.

1:22:50 Drew Yeah, I'll see a blue tile for some reason.

1:22:52 Adam All right.

1:22:53 Caller He lives in a different state than me.

1:22:55 Adam All right, you know, you're free to say that state, you know.

1:23:00 Caller No, that's okay.

1:23:02 Adam Is he in Florida?

1:23:03 Caller No.

1:23:06 Caller New Mexico.

1:23:07 Adam Yeah, okay. So he dry humped you?

1:23:11 Caller Well, like, I don't really remember. I just remember, like, going in, like, and I'd wake him up when my after my parents dropped me off and, like, we, like, he'd say, like, you know how, like, you'd wake him up? Yeah, like, I'd, because I'd wake him up and tell him that I was there.

1:23:28 Adam Oh, okay.

1:23:29 Caller And then, like, you know, how normal grandpas would be, like, how they used to bounce little kids on their knees or whatever and play horse? Well, like, instead he'd have me, like, sit on his lap. And I didn't realize that it was bad when I was little.

1:23:42 Adam Well, I'm also, I'm also trying to figure out, and you sound like someone has been molested, so I believe it, but I'm also wondering, was this guy really doing that? Or maybe sort of interpreting it this way?

1:23:53 Caller That's what I don't know.

1:23:55 Adam Whose parent is he? Whose parent is he?

1:23:58 Caller My mom. But your mom's. The only reason why, like, I started thinking about it was because I used to babysit my cousin. And when she, like, I babysit her on the weekdays, like, in the summertime when I was in junior high, and then she'd go to my grandpa's on the weekend. And when she came home and I'd change her diapers, she'd be really, really, really red down. And then I asked my aunt, and then, like, I've also heard stories from my other cousins that my grandpa has done stuff to them.

1:24:29 Adam Good enough. And here's the thing. If, please, fellas, if this is the road you want to go down with your infant cousins or nieces or granddaughters or whatever, have the dignity to just put a bullet in your head, would you? Nothing wrong with that. You know, we don't, hold on a second. We don't talk about- We don't talk about suicide as a glorified death so much anymore. The Japanese culture understands it well. If you brought shame to yourself, or you're gonna bring shame to yourself, put a bullet in your head. It's a much better way to go. And then, not only do your grandkids get spared your amorous knee, but you do not have to walk around for the rest of your life with the knowledge of knowing that you essentially attempted to have sex with your 14-month-old niece or grand whatever, whatever.

1:25:18 Drew How about all the moms bringing the kids back around, farming them out? Can you imagine that?

1:25:23 Adam Awesome. Yeah.

1:25:25 Drew That's so crazy the way humans are.

1:25:27 Adam I'm just saying, just please, there's not enough guys. Here's the thing, here's who is committing suicide. Some student who got a B on their chem lab at UCLA, they jump off the bell tower. Then there's the guy who, there's the captain of the ship who ran it into something and spilled a bunch of oil, and he's going to kill himself. There's the dad who's been laid off. There's the frustrated teenager, who thinks no one will listen, that person. What about all the pedophiles that should be killing themselves? 65-year-old guy.

1:26:00 Drew Let's work on that.

1:26:01 Adam Let's see if you can kill yourself.

1:26:02 Thrice See, but it's the kind of thing where you, they're not getting it in the first place, I don't think.

1:26:08 Drew They're not understanding what they're doing, you mean? That they're hurting people?

1:26:11 Thrice I get, I mean.

1:26:11 Drew Oh, no, they get it.

1:26:12 Thrice But like, why?

1:26:13 Drew Well, some of them, they also, they use the Michael Jackson defense a lot, which I love, because they love me. We just, oh, I just so kill the, just so lovey dovey with them. And well, you know, we get a little stimulated, but.

1:26:25 Thrice What I'm saying though, dude, that you think they feel like major shame later about it?

1:26:29 Drew Yeah, they do. Yeah.

1:26:31 Adam Well, it's that weird thing, like, well, if they know they're doing wrong, why do they do it? But I think you can almost make that argument for anyone who does anything heroin or whatever. They know that what they're doing is not right. But on the other hand, they're compelled to do it. I'm saying if you're compelled to do it, just kill yourself. It's great. It's great for the family. The greatest gift you can give to the family, really, is suicide. If you're going to do damage. It's considered a mitzvah. That's half of Drew's people would say. Let's take a little break. Thrice in Studio 9. We'll be right back after this.

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1:27:31 Adam Yeah, Love Line. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Thrice in Studio tonight. Gonna be on Jimmy Kimmel Live. Weather permitting, gonna be on the outdoor stage tomorrow night. We should hear a little something else off the new CD, Visu, and cute up there, this one's called Red Sky. Yeah, Thrice, everybody. Vesu, name of the new CD coming out in six and a half minutes. It's real quick. Arlen over here has been in the hole for 73 minutes. He wants to know the band's favorite song on the CD.

1:32:11 Caller So Arlen.

1:32:14 Drew Sleeping. Yes, he's from Irvine, too, from your home territory.

1:32:18 Adam Favorite song on the CD, what do you think?

1:32:22 Thrice I like that one, a song called Atlantic.

1:32:28 Adam If only Arlen was awake to enjoy that. All right, Derek?

1:32:33 Caller Yeah.

1:32:35 Adam God bless you for naming it. Almost every band you have in here is like, well, you know, they're all so different.

1:32:40 Drew They're like your children.

1:32:41 Adam Name the song.

1:32:44 Caller So hard to choose, bro.

1:32:46 Adam You know, they had different names. I was in a different head when I wrote each one of them, man. I know, name your favorite. We're trying to get a band. I don't know who it was. It was Blowhard from Sustained or something like that. So it was like, listen, just name a song, name one. I just can't. What do you think you're going to do, by the way? Be haunted by this? What, six months later, you're on a morning radio show and you name a different song and you get deluge with emails. You said this was your favorite song. Well, how many favorite songs do you have, Mr. Benedict's favorite song, Arnold? Just spit it out, you Blowhards. The whole thing where people don't answer, they don't realize how Blowhard-y that is.

1:33:30 Caller They're all so good, man.

1:33:31 Adam I couldn't tell you, yeah. These are the same a-holes that have an idea for a movie or sitcom or something. You're like, oh, what is it? And they're like, I can't really talk about it. I said, don't bring it up, then, ass. Idiots. Bring it up, then you go, oh, all right, tell it.

1:33:45 Caller And they're like, I don't think I should talk about it.

1:33:48 Caller It could take me way too long.

1:33:49 Adam By the way, you're talking about it when you bring it up. I'm only asking. I'm not because I'm interested in your crappy sitcom ID. I'm just trying to be polite because you brought it up. Thank you. Wow. A lot of venom in me. Heavy, heavy. Second break. We'll be right back after this. Yeah, well that's it, everyone. Go out and get the Vesuvium from Thrice out. Well, it's been out for a whole minute now.

1:34:36 Caller Oh, yeah.

1:34:37 Adam Probably sold out. The band's gonna be over on Sunset at the Tower of Sunset, signing at 10 o'clock. They're gonna be on JKL tomorrow night, playing that rockin the outdoor stage.

1:34:48 Caller Thanks, guys. Thanks.

1:34:50 Adam Always a good time with Thrice, and we'll take a 22-hour break. Until next time, I'm Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:34:58 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Annie Gold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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