Episode 1000733479994

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1:13 Voiceover This is Loveline. With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew. Hey, buddy, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, is a board-certified physician, an addiction medicine specialist. Reverend Run is here tonight. You probably know him best from the legendary pioneering rap group Run DMC. Reverend has himself a new CD, which is coming out today, called Distortion. Welcome to the show, Reverend.

1:45 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Thank you. Thank you. Happy to be here.

1:47 Adam We call you Reverend.

1:48 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Rev.

1:49 Adam Rev.

1:49 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Let me shorten it.

1:51 Adam First off, I didn't know your brother was Russell Simmons.

1:53 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons You didn't know that?

1:54 Adam No. You know, it was probably... I probably heard it. I probably saw it. At some point, it just didn't... I didn't put it together.

2:02 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons It's sticking today.

2:03 Adam Yeah, that's nice. Your mom must be proud.

2:05 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Yeah, she passed some years ago, but I'm sure she's proud.

2:08 Adam Well, being a man of faith, I'm sure you realize she's somewhere looking down and smiling.

2:13 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons That's why I said she's...

2:16 Adam Were you always... I mean, you weren't a reverend in Run DMC days.

2:20 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons No, I became a reverend in 92, 93.

2:25 Adam How do you do that?

2:29 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Personally, I was just trying to go to church. I was... At the top of my career, I just felt a little empty. Like, is this it? Do you just chase more? I didn't have a balance. I was just like, more, okay, more, more girls, okay, more, more money, more. I thought it was about winning, and that's all it was about. So I was like, there's gotta be more to life than this.

2:52 Adam There's gotta be more than more.

2:53 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Right. And so I went to church to find spirituality. What else is going on? And I'm an intense person anyway, so I found the biggest Bible I could find. I just want to do it perfect. So I ended up getting this thing wrapped around my neck, and now they call me Reverend Run because...

3:11 Adam Priest College, what you're referring to. Yes. Yeah. Well, it's an interesting thing, which is when you're sort of on the way up, you always have a goal or a carrot or something dangling out in front of you. That's just your goal. You want to get to the next level. And then at a certain point, you get enough crap, you get enough money, you get enough cars, you get enough whatever, and you just keep going, but it doesn't become so gratifying. In a way, it's like what happens with drugs. It's enjoyable at the beginning, it feels good, and at a certain point, you just have to do them. You don't enjoy them anymore.

3:43 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Sex addiction is it.

3:44 Adam I don't know about that.

3:46 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons No, but you can get, you can run to that.

3:48 Adam Hypothetically, yeah. I mean, I could see where a guy could do that, but not me.

3:52 Drew But it absolutely is the case. I've talked to people all the time who have lots of money and things who all of a sudden feel empty and start thinking, how can I be of service? How can I give back? And that's sort of how I was young.

4:03 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I didn't even think of that.

4:04 Adam Well, you did later. You did later, though.

4:06 Yeah. Yeah.

4:07 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I figured it out. I had to I ran into that wall. And now I'm just addicted to God. Well, I found out balance.

4:16 Adam How much success? How old were you when Run DMC got started?

4:21 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I was it was 83. I guess I was 17, 18 years old. And it was exploded.

4:29 Adam You guys had huge success within the first couple of years.

4:32 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Yeah. Very big success playing from maybe a club straight to the garden.

4:38 Adam What year was, you know, the Walk This Way stuff with Aerosmith? So you guys only been together a couple of years.

4:44 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons We started up 83. We started in 86. It's in blue. 83. We had an album. We had two albums before Raising Hell, before The Walk This Way. But we had two rock records, which was Rock Box and then King of Rock. And then finally Raising Hell was really big.

5:02 Adam So you were just 20 or so. When things started blowing up.

5:05 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Yeah.

5:06 Adam And after 15 years of that, you just realized you wanted, I think I, I remember the day I was, I got to LA, which was important for me.

5:18 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons LA, the best weed, the best girls. It was just, you know, like, wow, this is great. Best weather. And I was, I got my presidential suite and I said, this is good. And I caught the guy, Quazy, who used to be out in, it got all the Rolls Royce's you could rent and stuff. So I was renting a Rolls Royce and I was in my, I was calling from the jacuzzi in the room. And I called.

5:39 Adam This is Drew's story too, by the way.

5:41 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons So I'm in the jacuzzi.

5:42 Adam A little more weed.

5:44 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I call for the Rolls Royce and I call for the person to give me a haircut and I call for the girl. And I call for the weed and I had food come in to the room all at one time. And Rolling Stone magazine was coming to the room. So at one time, everybody was knocking on the door. But I was eating French toast because I was trying to get the best food in my mouth and the weed. So there was syrup falling in the tub, ashes falling in the tub. Quazy was at the door of the Rolls Royce. The girl was at the door. I tried to have more. And I sat there and I was laughing, but not really laughing, kind of crying, laughing like, this is ridiculous that the syrup is falling in the tub with the weed, ashes, and the Rolls Royce person. And Rolling Stone wants to do an interview. And I had all that going on at one moment. And I'm sitting in this big room trying to roll. And I realized I'm trying to do it all at once. I kind of came to the reality that this is not, I gotta do something else. So I slowly tried to ease back off of just that more vibe. And then kind of crashed and just went to church. And became a parishioner and then an usher. A deacon, a walking deacon, a minister. Now I'm a father in a church. Cause I had to get to that place. Now I have the balance. I can have it all. I got my show on MTV. Successes.

7:01 Adam Thursday Night's 10.30 by the way.

7:03 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Yes.

7:04 Adam New CD coming out today.

7:06 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons It's doing well in ratings. It just came out and it beat everybody in that same time period.

7:11 Adam But the man of the cloth doesn't care about beating people.

7:13 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Yeah, I do care.

7:14 Adam Wait a minute.

7:15 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I do. I have a balance now.

7:16 Adam That's right.

7:17 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I understand. The balance is that I can win and not have to... I'm not looking to be a pauper. Right. I want to win, but I have a balance. I understand it better. This time around, I'd like that song John Legend, this time we'll take it slow. So I'm taking it slow and enjoying it. And I read the book The Power of Now and all that good stuff. I'm like a yogi. And I read lots of books and I have a balance.

7:47 Adam Good. We'll impart some of that wisdom on our young callers who don't have any balance. I can assure you of that. Amy.

7:56 Yes.

7:57 Adam You're 20.

7:58 Yes. What's up? This is actually a question for Dr. Drew. When I guess I was about 16, I had just stopped getting my period altogether and I was, they ran tests and everything and they said I had a slight hormone imbalance. So I was put on birth control to regulate it and my parents told me, I was on it for I guess about a year and a half and my parents told me to stop taking it because I was, it was causing me to gain weight and so I stopped taking it and that was probably, I guess January of last year.

8:34 Drew Get to the question here, but what is the question, Amy?

8:37 Well, I was wondering if I haven't gotten my period, if that would affect me having children later on.

8:46 Drew You need, it's not, not having your period has nothing to do with fertility. It doesn't cause fertility problems not having your period. For instance, people now will often go for many, many months on birth control pill without menstruating. They're designed to go that way.

8:58 Adam But you can't get pregnant during that time when you're not having your period.

9:01 Drew Right, but the question is, does whatever is causing your lack of period have an influence on fertility? Do you, are you overweight?

9:10 Yeah, a little bit.

9:11 Drew How much do you weigh?

9:13 I'm like 5'10, about like 1'80.

9:16 Drew All right, so just bringing the weight down, make sure it's not too...

9:17 Adam Hold on, let me do a little quick radio math there. 5'10, 1'80, carry the three.

9:23 Drew Which means you're going to have to hight up or down.

9:26 Adam She's heading down. Don't interrupt, please. 1'8, is what, Drew?

9:31 Drew Nine.

9:31 Adam Nine, and 9'1, is what?

9:33 Drew 10.

9:34 Adam But one times nine is still?

9:36 Drew Still nine.

9:37 Adam Still nine.

9:37 Drew That's right.

9:39 Adam Okay, so 9'1, is 10, but one times nine, 10?

9:42 Drew Yeah.

9:43 Adam 10?

9:44 Drew No, it's nine. Nine is one time.

9:45 Adam Okay, you said 10 before. Okay. And then 9'0, is still zero, right?

9:51 Drew Nine times zero. Zero times. Nine, okay, nine, nine, zero times.

9:55 Adam Nine times, zero times nine is still nine.

9:57 Drew No, zero. Zero times. Okay. Adam, zero times.

10:02 Adam Nine times, okay. But if you put the zero behind the nine, then you got 900, oh, 90. That's 90. Okay. Okay, I figured it out. It's five, nine.

10:14 Drew Oh, it's five, nine. Good.

10:15 Adam And three, 30 seconds. She's just made it to five, nine. I'll break it down metrically in a minute. And she's 191. So she's a little bit heavy. Amy? Yes. All right.

10:27 Drew Amy, sometimes excess adipose tissue will cause a suppression of the side.

10:31 Adam People will overweight?

10:32 Drew Yeah.

10:32 Adam Yeah.

10:32 Drew And also being overweight is a sign of something called polycystic ovarian disease. You need to work up. You need to go back to gynecologists and figure out what the issue is here. And sometimes people can have-

10:40 I actually had a pap smear and they said everything looked okay.

10:44 Drew That's not a pap smear. You need to go back and have an evaluation for something called oligomenorrhea. It's not a pap smear. It's a blood, there is a blood test. And it's something that possibly is the third alternative is something called hypothalamic pituitary dysfunction. Then the atriosis, ovarian cysts, there are other things that needs to be sorted out. And then a plan created. And some of these things have fertility issues. Some of them don't.

11:04 Adam All right. Boring. Let me say this. I know we're living out here in Southern California or sunny Southern California. And, you know, I don't know a lot of Hollywood types and stuff, but we talk to people frequently, women especially, they're 180 and if they're 185 if they're an ounce when you say you're 180 over the radio. And they're like, they describe themselves 180, 190, but proportion.

11:29 Drew No, I'm just, you know, I'm a little, a little bit.

11:32 Adam You've got a little extra weight on me.

11:34 Drew Curvy.

11:35 Adam Yeah, maybe 50 pounds.

11:38 Drew I mean, in terms of health, 50 pounds.

11:40 Adam You're carrying around, basically carrying around a small, a mini refrigerator worth of, worth of just sort of extra you, a mini me. Yeah. You really are. It's like a, like a dwarf has been strapped to your inner thigh.

11:54 Drew And that affects all kinds of things. Blood pressure, lipid metabolism, cardiovascular health, well, the other cycling in women.

12:00 Adam The other thing is too, is if you're 20 years old and dragging around an extra 50 pounds, it's not going to be pretty when you're 40. Yeah. You know what I mean? This thing's slowed down a little bit. All right. Linda?

12:13 Caller Yes.

12:14 Drew 24.

12:14 Adam 24. What's up?

12:17 Caller Well, I'm about to move in with my boyfriend. We've been together for three years. And he's, we've kind of stopped having sex. Like we maybe have one sex like once a week.

12:32 Drew You're fat. Hang on a second. By the way, that's not stopping. Once a week is sort of a normal rate.

12:38 Caller Yeah, but he's not pleasing me at all. Like it's literally two minutes.

12:44 Drew So he's not paying attention. He's not into it.

12:46 Adam He's drifted off.

12:49 Drew Right?

12:50 Caller Well, yeah. And I've talked to him about it and he just says that basically he feels like he doesn't please me. So that's why he's not doing anything.

13:04 Drew I mean, he can't please you because he's a bad guy or something and he feels bad about himself and therefore he's not going to make the effort. What are you talking about?

13:11 Caller No, he feels like he doesn't please me.

13:13 Drew I don't know because this guy sounds like just a wonderful human. And why wouldn't you move in now that you've wasted a couple of years with him? What do you put this? This is not a non relationship. What are you talking about?

13:26 Caller Well, OK. He ever since we've been having sex, he goes really fast. And I don't know what the cause of that would be.

13:36 Drew That's his. That's his.

13:37 Adam What is that?

13:38 Drew That's him.

13:38 Caller OK.

13:38 Adam Hold on a second. When did people in this country, they sort of kept speaking English, but they can't communicate anymore. It's a weird thing. Now, it's strange. We have a country filled with people that speak the language, except for they might as well just speak Japanese because it takes 20 minutes to get anything out of anybody. First, this guy, sex is no good anymore because we never have sex. If we have sex once a week, except for he goes really fast, except for he's always gone really fast.

14:03 Drew And except he doesn't want to pay attention to me, except he's always been that way.

14:08 Adam I guess. Linda, what's up with you? Junior college?

14:11 Caller There's just so much.

14:13 Adam Junior college?

14:14 Drew Are you an abuse survivor?

14:16 Caller Am I what?

14:17 Drew An abuse survivor of some type?

14:19 Caller No.

14:20 Adam You've never been to junior college?

14:22 Caller No, I have been to junior college.

14:26 Adam Oh, I smell it. Yeah, I can smell junior college on people.

14:29 Drew What do you mean there's just so much? What does that mean?

14:33 Caller I mean, like, because you guys said that I'm all over the place. And I am.

14:39 Adam Well, what's going on in your life beside this?

14:43 Caller Just school and work. That's it.

14:46 Adam All right, baby. Well, what are you going to do?

14:48 Drew Well, why don't you focus on that? You don't need this guy around necessarily. If this isn't working and you can't communicate about things, you're sort of angry with him because of his biology and he doesn't seem to sort of work with you.

14:58 Adam It's been three years. Why don't you guys just scrap it?

15:01 Caller Is it normal for him, for somebody, he can't last long? Is that normal?

15:06 Drew Yes, that is normal for many guys. There's actually so normal that there's a medication coming out probably in about six months that specifically will address that. Yeah. And it's something that most people, when they're in an intimate relationship, when they actually care about one another, kind of work that out. So it becomes less of an issue.

15:23 Adam Does he give you oral sex?

15:24 Caller No, not anymore.

15:26 Drew See, that's, he doesn't care.

15:28 Adam He's his own autopilot.

15:29 Drew Yeah, and that's what bothers me.

15:30 Adam You've been together for three years. Now you're gonna move in together and he stopped caring a couple years ago. See, get yourself a better man.

15:37 Drew Or somebody actually cares about you and is concerned and whom you can communicate with and sort of share. Relationships have to go both ways. All right.

15:47 Adam All right, Linda.

15:47 Drew It's not working.

15:48 Adam Just be aware.

15:49 Caller It's just not working.

15:51 Drew Do what you gotta do.

15:51 Adam I'm really, I'm really curious. Life is so confusing for some people. They just have no idea. They have no idea how people work. They have no idea how they work.

16:00 Drew Parents night at school tonight.

16:02 Adam Parents night.

16:02 Drew Parents night when some of my kids, teachers and stuff.

16:05 Adam Really?

16:06 Drew Yeah.

16:06 Adam How is that?

16:07 Drew It's impressive.

16:08 Adam Impressive for who?

16:09 Drew To see what seventh graders got to suck up these days. And how different it is to many of my colleagues.

16:16 Adam You think all this can just be taught at school.

16:19 Drew No, no, I don't. You're right.

16:20 Adam I think it has to be. Some of it is intuitive. Some of it is just nature and nurture.

16:24 Drew Some of it is really, really the bottom line is having stable relationships in families. So you can then translate that to stable relationships with your peers.

16:32 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Model it.

16:33 Drew Model it.

16:34 Adam It's just a lot of people.

16:35 Drew Or community or church or other.

16:37 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons As a priest myself, I think that my job is to tell you, you may now kiss the bride. And you may now kiss the bride means you shouldn't have been kissing the bride before I say now. So being on this show and hearing this stuff with the teachings that I have found is that it's more healthy to just court and find one wife, engage and get married and live this simple life. Simple life that is prescribed. Sometimes we're not mature enough to have a sexual relationship. It can really mess up your life, jumping from partner to partner and having sex.

17:26 Drew Even Linda, we just talked to her, she was probably stuck in that relationship because they've been having sex together. They don't care, but she's in. She's so in, she can't get out, right?

17:36 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons A lot of times women aren't really, they just want a hug. They're just satisfied with a good long hug and it just gets confusing when you bring sex into it early before you get married.

17:50 Adam Well, here's the thing. Most women need, most people need a few years where they maybe where they're single, maybe where they don't have sex, where they get to get something done and find themselves and do a little soul searching or whatever, whatever cliche you want to put in front of it. But a little time off is good and if you're an attractive young woman who lives out in Southern California or anywhere in any city, you're just gonna go from guy to guy to guy to guy before you know it. You're gonna look in the mirror, you're gonna be 38 years old and realize you've never had a month off and you don't know who you are because you're only who you are to these men. That's all you are is sort of doing a presentation for these guys and as weird as it sounds it's probably good to have a daughter who is you know you don't want her you know you know you don't want her maimed in a construction accident or industrial fire or something but have someone that's not so piping hot that she gets a couple of months off here and there it's not all about the guys constantly because I don't know how you turn your back on that when it's available it's hard to pull that girl out and go listen sweetie you're you're 19 just cool your jets for a couple of years focus on school focus on your faith focus on your family screw that I got every guy on the football team knocking on my door that's where discipline comes in and teaching and just you know learning about life following the protocol of the way it's supposed to be done I mean I I didn't do this either I was on the road run DMC run in a muck but when I found out all these things later I was like wow I wish I was brought up in a way that would have followed it kind of biblically what would you we don't you I wish I wish I could have you know held my seed and did all those great things I because I'm I feel good about the way I live my life now you find young people though going well you did it why can't I know I don't judge I'm like a yogi I'm I kind of sit and smile and watch everybody do whatever and I'm very happy all I do is judge yeah I don't I try I'm not saying you you're when you said I don't judge I just judged you for not judge it but really what I thought but it was I'm the I'm the Reverend wrapping Reverend guy so you look at me like how do you you know balance that so my thing is I'm always have a good time you enjoying it this is great you know you're because of the world the universe already has its you know way it's all set up to to give you it does its thing well people people do that thing where they went like well you did this but it's the same with like drugs so what somebody smoke pot or did coke or whatever they're telling you it's bad you can have a problem with it you can get strong and take their pair why not listen to them right you know what I mean what do you want somebody's yeah I licked my finger stuck in a socket and shocked me don't do it I want to shock myself too yeah okay or or or why should I listen to you you shocked yourself yeah well the guy with AIDS or something like I won't catch AIDS right yeah that's the whole thing let other people suffer a little bit and then learn from them alright that's Adam's loss everybody else suffer everyone's suffering I'll learn Darren hey guys you're 25 yeah what's up hey I'm glad to hear you guys are still on I haven't I haven't called in in about eight years but how you guys doing tonight we're good we've been waiting we haven't had any calls since he called last in 97 I didn't actually Drew I have a question I I'm trying to get to the bottom of this I for the last probably two years I cannot go to sleep or lay down and and relax without like letting my body like go into a convulse like it convulses until like my heart rate and my breathing are down to normal to where I can actually fall asleep and I know I know that caffeine really really makes it do I can't I'm trying to figure what you're describing it's not like I'm anxious and when I lay down my heart rate is at a level that it takes about like like it takes a long time for me to fall asleep and the only way for me to calm down it's for like it feels like my nervous system is like it is just snapping so like my stop interpreting what's happening describe to me what happens okay I'm shaking you have you have sudden shakes you have so your arm your legs twitch or jump around kind of thing feels like yeah yeah that's normal that's called myoclonic jerks those are myoclonic episodes as you head towards sleep yep I do it every night for a go to bed yeah you can you might have trouble during the night where it can be restlessness that persists it can actually disrupt your sleep oh no I'm in the bathroom oh I know that's well and or you could actually have a seizure disorder that needs to be evaluated and it and this all sounds like it has a psychiatric base to it and you have a history of any drug use yeah definitely definitely yeah and so you are you still using no I kind of stumbled to recovery I noticed that this really started happening a couple years ago after a large exposure to cocaine yeah this stuff can happen from really did you do a bunch of LSD or ecstasy no hardly no not at all why how much hardly any or not at all once on both okay how much how much coke did you expose yourself to I know like I'm in like a two-month period like maybe like like four times a week I was doing it well cocaine is the most likely drug to induce seizure disorders so yeah so I would actually go see a neurologist and see if there's anything to this and there may be sort of cognitive or what about speed more than speed in terms of seizures more than speed cocaine is the number one even the good stuff even the good stuff well and there may be other things from a psychiatric perspective that can be dealt with to help you with the sleep and anxiety and what not.

23:40 Drew Not benzodiazepines, not the valium class, not for you.

23:43 Adam People still doing coke I found out.

23:45 Drew It's back too.

23:46 Adam It's back.

23:47 Drew It's some popularity. It's many campuses. Is it? It's the number two, number three rather.

23:52 Adam Number three.

23:52 Drew Pod alcohol, cocaine.

23:53 Adam Oh really? Oh come on you can't count booze man. Pod alcohol? Count booze. Why do you got to do that booze?

24:00 Drew You're offending the reverend sensibility.

24:01 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons No I'm fine. I'm really like sitting here just enjoying all of this.

24:06 Adam All right we're gonna take ourselves a little break. Rev Run is here tonight.

24:10 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Distortion.

24:11 Adam Wow that's the name of the CD. We're gonna hear something off of the new CD which came out today. We will also tell everyone the Adam Corolla project on TLC tonight. Good episode. One of the best I would say. Yeah.

24:25 Drew What happens?

24:26 Adam Oh man, take Ozzy to a speech coach, take the boys to the spa. We get all our tools ripped off. Lots of good stuff going on this week on TLC. That's on right now. Take a quick break. Be right back after this. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline and Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Rev Run is here tonight. You know Rev Run from Run DMC, legendary rap group. He's changed his ways.

25:14 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Yes.

25:15 Adam He's become a man of the cloth. He sees the error of his ways.

25:19 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Yes.

25:19 Adam But he hasn't stopped rapping.

25:21 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons No, I like rapping.

25:22 Adam Right.

25:23 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons It's just poetry.

25:24 Adam Yeah, nothing in the Bible says you can't rap.

25:26 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons No, he never would say that.

25:27 Adam I mean, not that we'd know about rap that far back, but still, you know, there were poets. Yeah.

25:33 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Lots of Psalms and the Proverbs. It was poetry.

25:37 Adam Yeah. Well, here's something off the new CD, Distortion, which came out today, and we'll take one call. And then we'll hear a new song from Rev. Run. Angie.

25:48 Caller Oh, hello.

25:49 Adam 21.

25:50 Caller Dr. Yes.

25:52 Adam What's up?

25:53 Caller Well, I'm calling because I had an interaction with my ex-boyfriend a week and a half ago, and I just don't know what to make of it.

26:05 Adam All right.

26:06 Drew Let's sort it out. What happened?

26:08 Caller All right. Well, he came over around 9 a.m., like a week and a half ago on Wednesday, and he was completely coped out. And he told me, you know, he was telling me that he loves me and he wanted to get back together with me. And it's just so hard for me because I really want to believe him, but he seemed to ever straighten up and get over this entire coke addiction. And I just don't know what to do about it.

26:36 Adam Well, what's so confusing about the drug addict, coke head coming over at weird hours and making strange requests?

26:42 Drew He's undoubtedly asking for money, too.

26:43 Adam That he does every time. What's confusing?

26:47 Drew What's confusing is that you're confused.

26:49 Adam Yeah, that's the confusing part.

26:51 Caller It's just, I find it so hard to get over him. And I'm just so mad at myself because I really want to get over him.

26:57 Drew Did I do a smoke detector way off in the distance?

26:59 Caller What do you like, a little bit of background?

27:02 Drew I've got your background already nailed with your drug addict dad.

27:05 Adam Speaking of the background, what are you doing over there? You're resurfacing the kitchen cabinets? What's going on?

27:10 Caller What's all the activity? I stepped outside for a second because I'm...

27:15 Adam Use the door next time. Don't go through a hole in the wall.

27:18 Caller Huh?

27:19 Caller Sorry, can you hear me?

27:20 Drew Yeah, yeah, I got you.

27:21 Adam You're having a smoke?

27:23 Caller Yeah.

27:23 Drew Okay. So you had an addicted parent, undoubtedly?

27:27 Caller No.

27:27 Drew You must have. There are sick parents. Something to be this codependent and recurrent that you keep going back to, or else you're abused. Those are sort of your possibilities.

27:37 Caller Um, my dad is a rocket scientist and my mom is a high school Spanish teacher.

27:44 Adam Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that your dad's a rocket scientist, all right, Angie? I think I knew that already.

27:52 Drew It's not what they do. Not what they do. I'm concerned with it. It's who they, you know, what pathology they might. Yeah, pathology is either the alcoholic or something that makes you so codependent that you can't extract yourself from a dysfunctional relationship.

28:05 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons You only meet yourself.

28:06 Adam Ooh, heavy.

28:08 Drew So what's the deal? What's the drill?

28:10 Caller I'm guessing that you can probably pin that on my mom.

28:13 Drew Okay.

28:14 Caller And she just has really bad anxiety disorder, and she moved here with my dad right after they got married, and she's from Puerto Rico originally, and she had no friends, and she didn't have anyone to speak Spanish to, and she really much kept to herself.

28:29 Drew Angie, Angie, you're making a whole bunch of excuses to tell us something about your mom. Just tell us that something about her.

28:36 Caller She's just dependent on my dad, period.

28:39 Drew Does she take pills for her anxiety?

28:41 Caller She can't survive. No. She can't survive without my father.

28:44 Adam How does she teach school with her language barrier?

28:48 Caller She teaches Spanish.

28:50 Adam To people that speak Spanish?

28:53 Caller I don't speak Spanish. She never taught me Spanish. But she's a Spanish teacher.

28:58 Adam I know, but there's a certain point where you have to go, arroz con pollo. That means rice and chicken. You can't just keep speaking Spanish to teach people Spanish. You have to tell them what stuff means in English, right?

29:11 Caller Right.

29:13 Adam So she speaks English?

29:14 Caller She speaks English.

29:16 Drew So you're saying her dependency was something you've modeled in your relationship with men? There's more than that.

29:23 Adam That's the only thing I learned in Spanish, by the way.

29:25 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I like, I thought you was fluent.

29:28 Adam I learned arroz con pollo, that's chicken with rice, and I also learned that my name was Paco. Mi llamo Paco. And I'm like, so I'm Paco? Yeah, yeah. So if I go to Mexico, I become Paco or what? Can I say mi llamo Adam? No, no.

29:44 Drew It's Paco.

29:44 Adam You sound like a Jew. We're going Mexican. Paco. All right. No, it's not mi llamo Jackass, it's mi llamo. Thank you. That's what I learned. It's two L's.

29:54 Drew You were saying mi llamo, mi llamo.

29:55 Adam Well, you see a couple L's. What do you think? We think llama starts with a Y. You know what I'm saying?

30:02 Drew Just saying, yeah, yeah.

30:03 Adam Two L's in llama, right?

30:04 Drew I believe so.

30:05 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Two L's.

30:05 Adam That's a weird word. We need two L's in llama?

30:08 Drew That's why they change it to a paca paca.

30:11 Adam Oh, yeah. What do we need two L's in llama? And then if you see two L's, shouldn't you be saying llama?

30:16 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons You should be saying LL Cool J.

30:18 Adam LL, yeah. That's another two L's. He only needs one L.

30:21 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons So I think they come to my mind, sorry.

30:23 Adam Angie?

30:24 Caller Yes.

30:25 Adam Okay, so things are going on with you. I would break up with this guy.

30:29 Caller Oh, I'm already broken up with him.

30:31 Adam Okay.

30:32 Caller Well, because I just ended up getting myself in a mess of just relationships and yeah.

30:39 Adam You know what? Listen, you have luck. Baby, you need drama. It's clear.

30:43 Drew Right. Well, you've got boundary issues. You get infatuated with these guys that are terribly ill and you've got to fix them.

30:51 Adam Yeah.

30:51 Drew That's your idea of love. You feel love with the person that's broken.

30:54 Adam And what do you think attraction is after all for so many women? It's just, it's attraction.

30:59 Drew Men do that too. Men do that too, for sure.

31:01 Adam Yeah, but here, okay, but hold on a second. And here's the thing. Men use their eyes quite a bit.

31:08 Drew First, yeah.

31:08 Adam Eyes first. And then whatever kicks in, kicks in. But eyes first. So if it ain't happening from the eyeballs, it just ain't happening. Women, they're all over the road when it comes to attraction. They're into a guy and they always do, I don't know why, but I love him. I can't help it or whatever. Most people, he's short, he's fat, he's bald. He's got a huge schnoz. He beats the crap out of him, but I love the guy. What is that? And that's more powerful than anything else, because even a guy who's really into a chick with the eyeballs eventually can get tired of whatever and keep moving. But that part, that grabs you by the soul.

31:45 Drew Yep, that's right.

31:46 Adam And when you have that, it's hard to break away from it.

31:48 Drew And that comes from your heritage. There's something happened and she's not given what that was, something with mom.

31:53 Adam All right, well listen, Angie.

31:55 Drew Yes. Let's focus on this. I bet mom would be the crapper.

31:58 Adam Physically abusive mom?

32:00 No.

32:01 Drew She never hit you?

32:02 No.

32:04 Caller Well, maybe like a couple of times. And like my dad might have hit me a couple of times too. But that was all related to when I was younger, I was involved heavily in like gymnastics.

32:18 Caller I like talking like 3M.

32:19 Adam Oh, okay. Eating disorder.

32:21 Caller I was like 6 till when I was like 13. I had an eating disorder, you're right.

32:27 Adam Yeah. Everyone is in dance or gymnastics.

32:29 Drew Now it's starting to fix.

32:30 Adam Eating disorder.

32:31 Drew We're starting to come into focus now.

32:33 Caller Yeah, I had extremely low self-esteem. I was thinking that maybe that had to do with something while I was trying to find these guys who needed me.

32:43 Drew Right, so in three minutes, we've covered some very, very serious emotional issues. One of them is chronic, an eating disorder. Another is esteem issue. Another is regulation issue. And another is trauma, physical abuse. And so this is stuff that takes years to treat and needs to be treated. So let's go, let's get it going. If you want to start with Al-Anon, something free, that's fantastic, do that. Get a 12 step process going, get a sponsor and go. Get a therapist if you want to do it that way, but let's get going. It's gonna take some time and in the meantime, moratorium on these A-holes.

33:17 Adam Yeah, and the guys who are addicted to the cocaine are not gonna let you off the hook until they've rung you dry.

33:23 Drew Oh yeah.

33:24 Adam I mean, if they're getting high.

33:25 Drew Especially with her, she's a play-doh for him.

33:27 Adam Yeah, yeah. There's a very fertile soil for him.

33:32 Drew Let's hear Reverend Run song.

33:33 Adam All right, let's do that. New CD, by the way, is called Distortion. It came out today. That is Tuesday, what is it, Drew? What are we at?

33:42 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons 18th.

33:42 Adam 18th. And first song is called Mind on the Road.

35:47 Caller Thank you.

36:25 Adam That's Rev Run, new CD, Distortion, Sounding Better Than Ever, Rev Run in Studio tonight. We'll hear something else off the new CD, which came out today in the next hour. Take a quick break. When we come back, 22, Errol. Is that Errol Drew?

36:44 Drew That's what it looks like.

36:45 Adam Been watching violent porn since he was 10. Let's know about the negative side effects. Well, no one can pronounce your name. That's the number one negative side effect.

36:53 Drew Why is it Errol? Only somebody's parents who would name it Errol would allow that to happen.

36:58 Adam We'll get to the bottom of him, his porn, his name, all that after this.

37:03 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Loveline.

37:04 Caller Okay, wait, wait.

37:06 My hair, my hair.

37:07 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons We'll be right back.

37:09 Loveline is brought to you by Vibrations, the award-winning vibrating condom ring at gotvibe.com.

37:31 Adam Hey, everybody, it's the Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191-REV-RUN is in here tonight, the legendary Run DMC. It's got a new CD out, it's called Distortion. First song sounded great. We'll hear another song off it in the 11 o'clock hour, and that is Out As We Speak, the Adam Corolla project on TLC tonight. Good one. You wanna watch that? Let's on as we speak, but don't turn the radio off, just turn that thing on.

37:58 Drew The visual. Yeah.

37:59 Adam Yeah. Let's speak to Errol.

38:04 Caller Errol?

38:05 Adam How do you pronounce your name?

38:07 It's Errol. He had to write the first time.

38:09 Adam Errol. E-R-R-I-L?

38:12 It's O-L, actually.

38:14 Drew All right, there we go. Much better. Like Errol Flynn.

38:17 Adam Yeah. Well, now it makes sense. Okay.

38:19 Okay.

38:20 Drew What's up?

38:20 There's a little town in Scotland that grows strawberries there, it's named Errol. Spanish, Adam. Terrible. It's not Mayamo S Paco, it's Mayamo Paco because, you know, it's just like saying, I call myself is Paco.

38:35 Shut up!

38:36 Drew Have you called before?

38:37 No, no. Actually, I've been trying to call probably four years and never gotten through.

38:42 Drew Here we are. Okay.

38:44 Adam That's so annoying, by the way.

38:46 Drew What?

38:46 I just hate you, Errol.

38:47 Caller Yeah, I get that a lot.

38:49 Adam Yeah. Hang on. He's only on hold for 58 minutes, but I have to put him on hold for a few more minutes.

38:56 Drew Come on.

38:57 Adam No, I'm annoyed by him. His seizures during sex. You talk to Angie?

39:02 Drew Yeah.

39:03 Adam He talks to someone who's having seizures. Angie?

39:06 Caller Oh, yeah. Hi.

39:08 Adam What happened, baby?

39:10 Caller I'm just a little nervous.

39:12 Adam All right. What's up?

39:16 Just do it!

39:17 Caller I had seizures during sex.

39:20 Drew What does that mean, seizures? What do you mean by that?

39:23 Caller Oh, um...

39:24 Drew By the way, this is part of your English rant a few minutes ago. People use words. They have no idea what they mean, but they use them with great just these.

39:31 Caller I actually black out.

39:32 Drew You black out, and what happens?

39:34 Adam Seizures, like, you know, like seizure world, like a man of seizure, like when you're going to relax and you just want to enjoy yourself. Seizure time. Seizure-ly.

39:43 Caller I don't actually, well, I've been told by a couple of people, like a couple of guys I've been with, that I, like, go real strange, like I start, like, thrashing around, and, like throwing myself against the wall.

40:04 Drew Those are usually pseudo-seizures, what you're trying to do. That's a dissociative episode.

40:08 Adam Angie, something's going on with your voice, too.

40:10 Drew Yeah, tell us what the history is.

40:12 Adam What are you doing? Molested? What happened?

40:15 Caller Yeah.

40:16 Drew Yes.

40:18 Caller I've been raped a couple of times.

40:20 Drew Yeah, but when that happened-

40:21 Adam When you were a kid.

40:21 Drew Yeah, when it happened under the age of 10, we don't call that rape, we call that sexual abuse.

40:27 Caller Okay. Well, I was abused by my mom, but-

40:35 Drew Physically abused? Sexually abused?

40:39 Caller No.

40:41 Adam All right, let me say this. The more angry you are, the slower you talk and the slower you walk. You have angry people crossing in front of you when your car stops. Guy take 45 minutes just to pass in front of your car, the car six feet wide, just staring at you, giving that stink eye. We mother ever, we all, you're all hot because you got a car. It's like, I'm just driving, you're jaywalking. I'm this close to running your ass over. Please, let's pick it up. That's my whole thing. Like my, I'd like to work with homeless people and teach them to jog. I'm not worried about teaching them work skills. I don't want to teach them how to get off the drugs and any of that stuff. I'll just teach you guys how to jog when you hit the streets. I realize I always get angry people that are angry because you have to ring them for every syllable. Everything's that three Mississippi thing. Go ahead and ask a question, Drew. I'll show you what angry people do.

41:32 Drew Well, Adam, why did you get named Angie? Angie, what did you get named? What?

41:37 Adam Ask me something that makes sense. Would you please?

41:39 Drew Angie, where'd you get that name?

41:40 Adam Go ahead.

41:41 Drew Angie, where'd you get that name?

41:44 Adam My mom.

41:47 Drew And was your relationship with your mom okay?

41:51 Caller Yeah.

41:52 Drew She never abused you?

41:56 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons What?

41:58 Adam That's what it is. You just get angry and you realize how angry they are. But it's the equivalent to the guy crossing the street super slow.

42:06 Drew Except with the evocation through language, they're trying to bring on some aggression. The guy walking across the street doesn't really want you to run him.

42:12 Adam He kind of would like, he would like you to inch forward so he could give you the what the F. What's going on, Angie? You pace it up a little, would you, sweetie pea? We didn't molest you, remember? That was somebody else. You can't be angry at everybody. You know what I'm saying?

42:28 Caller OK, I suppose you want to know, like, where's dad, right?

42:31 Caller Dad's dead. Dead dad. Dad's dead.

42:34 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons He's picking up speed.

42:35 Adam OK, all right, what happened to dad?

42:37 Drew All right, so let me just...

42:39 Caller Never knew dad.

42:40 Adam OK.

42:41 Drew What did he die of?

42:43 Caller He killed himself.

42:44 Adam OK, now we got stuff going on.

42:46 Drew Oh, now wait a minute. Angie, Angie.

42:49 Caller I never knew dad. Dad split when I was...

42:51 Drew Well, hold on, Angie. I've got something else going on with Angie here.

42:54 Adam Oh, what?

42:54 Drew Do you ever have periods where you sort of like other kinds of blackout experiences in your life? Were you like multiple find clothing moved around and stuff like that or things you don't remember doing? Angie? Yeah. You have stuff like that? Hold on.

43:11 Adam I'm going to revise my rule to the five Mississippi rule. It used to be the three Mississippi rule.

43:16 Drew You definitely, you flipped into...

43:18 Caller I've had seizures. I've had dizzy spells and...

43:20 Drew No, no.

43:22 Adam What about the multiple personality thing?

43:24 Drew There's things about you that suggest a dissociative disorder. And in dissociative states...

43:28 Caller I'm under treatment for depression. I'm on Lexapro.

43:31 Drew Yeah, no, Angie. But I'm jumping to this and people could sort of be critical of us jumping, but you have an abuse history, you have rape history, you have sexual abuse history. You describe these dissociative episodes when you were sexually active. I wonder if you have dissociative episodes, which means things you sort of black out and maybe somebody else kind of takes over your body and you do other things that are not typical of the Angie we're talking to right now. Anything like that ever happen?

43:57 Caller Not that I'm aware of.

43:59 Drew Not really.

43:59 Adam Angie, let me just say, if there is another person trapped inside you that answers questions faster, could you put her on the line, please?

44:07 Caller I mean, I write poetry and I write under other names sometimes, but I'm aware of that.

44:14 Drew All right. So you don't have that. But you are describing dissociative episodes and pseudo seizures, and you ought to be evaluated for genuine seizures, which I suspect already happened. That's a very easy thing to rule out.

44:23 Caller I've had a lot of EEG tests.

44:25 Drew All right. So you don't have...

44:27 Adam You've had... Okay. But you've been horribly abused in your life. It's time to take care of yourself. Get some help.

44:33 Caller I'm still getting therapy and...

44:35 Adam Good.

44:35 Caller Nothing much has come out of it. My therapist just says, well, you've got chronic health problems because I'm under treatment for diabetes and high blood pressure and stuff. And he says, well, you've got chronic health problems and you need to deal with those and accept those and get on with your life.

44:56 Adam Angie, but let me just tell you something.

44:58 Caller It sounds like a bunch of that.

44:59 Adam You're 25 years old. You've had a hard enough life thus far. How about doing the best you can to make the rest of your life as good as you can make it?

45:09 Drew And I think what your therapist's suggestion is keeping it simple. Keep it simple. Keep it easy.

45:15 Adam You know what you need to do, Angie? You need to listen to classical music and exercise more. Yeah? I'm telling you, it'll make you right. It'll straighten you out. Get yourself like a walkman, put on all the classical music, and start walking.

45:29 Caller Instead of being like all pissed off at everybody?

45:32 Drew Rev, what would your advice be?

45:33 Adam Instead of being pissed at everyone.

45:34 Drew Hang on, let's hear another point of view.

45:37 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Being mad at everybody. I don't, the whole point of the finger thing I'm not into. I'm personally into taking the blame for everything myself. Why did I draw this to me? I'm a metaphysician in a way. When you start pointing the finger, you just further away from yourself.

45:56 Drew Right. Further away from things you can do anything about.

45:58 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Right. For me, I'm always, it's all about me. If I get sick, it's my fault. Everything that happens to me is my fault.

46:07 Caller I'm not angry at God. I don't blame him for anything.

46:10 Adam That's how you improve.

46:11 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons People are God too. Everything around you, you shouldn't blame anyone around you for anything. That's just a rule of thumb for me. I take responsibility for everything that happens to me.

46:22 Adam Well, it's how you get better. I think about it all the time. I work, I'm watching my show silently up here with a bunch of horrible carpenters, and I realize the reason my horrible carpenters know so little after doing it for 20 to 25 years is every time something goes wrong, they blame somebody else and they never internalize anything. And they always go, it's this guy's fault, there's that fault.

46:45 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons For some reason, you drew them to you, though.

46:47 Adam Yeah, well, that's a good point. I should blame myself for that. But here's the, that's just bad karma. But here's the thing. If you get a D on a test and at the end of the test, you announce it's because the teacher hates you, then you'll never study harder. You'll never improve. You got the D because you got the D. You're going to have to work harder next time and study harder, internalize it. That's how you get better. If you get fired every time, it's because your boss is a jerk or he's jealous. You're never going to improve as an employee.

47:14 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons You're going to keep running into more jealous jokers.

47:15 Adam That's right. That's right. Fifth divorce, it's always the chick's fault. Right. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

47:23 Caller All right, guys, here's the deal.

47:25 You're looking to hook up, sick of wasting time with the wrong person.

47:28 Adam One call is all you need to make.

47:30 Call the Dateline.

47:31 877-889-DATE.

47:41 Live 105, Root.

47:59 Adam Yeah, buddy, it's Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-E-E-191. Rev Run is here tonight from the legendary group Run DMC. Drew. What? I'm just looking at the little clay statuette of myself.

48:21 Drew Oh my god, it's head's gone.

48:22 Adam Now missing a head. What happened? Well.

48:25 Drew We don't know.

48:26 Adam Looks like it was removed from where it was. And it's now up on the shelf, I just noticed it up there. Somebody took a lot of time and a lot of effort and made me a lovely little figurine of myself and the head has been removed, of course not by myself. What is that, Drew?

48:44 Drew First of all, I find it amusing, no, intriguing, that you, who would have noticed a gnat farting in this room, didn't pick that up right away, it's weird.

48:52 Adam Strange, yeah.

48:53 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I knew that immediately, I thought it was like a dog, I just looked like, yeah, you know what I mean?

48:58 Adam Yeah, that is weird that I didn't notice that. I didn't get it eventually, but I'm so focused on you and Rev Run.

49:04 Drew Yeah.

49:05 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Really?

49:05 Adam Yeah. Not to be confused with Re-Run. Is Re-Run around? Re-Run from what's happening? Yeah, I think you passed. I think we ran past, yeah, I saw that in just in the last year or so.

49:18 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Yeah.

49:19 Adam I'll tell you, that's a show that could get into syndication, be fine with me.

49:22 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Yeah.

49:23 Adam I don't understand that. I understand why I have to watch 10 million I Love Lucy's and 10 million Brady Bunches, but I don't get to see any Partridge families.

49:32 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I'd love to see Partridge.

49:33 Adam I like to see some Partridge family and I like to see some what's happening.

49:38 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I love that bus.

49:39 Adam I like the Partridge family bus. I like Raj and Heywood and whoever.

49:43 Drew I like the original Danny. The original Danny Bannaducci. And then Mr. Kinkade. What was his name?

49:51 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Mr. Kinkade.

49:52 Adam Ruben Kinkade.

49:53 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Wow. Mr. Kinkade.

49:55 Adam Yeah. I could go Dave Madden. I think his name was the actor. I'd go for watching him. You know, it's funny. There's certain shows that I could definitely watch and they don't seem to show up. And then there's other shows that just never end.

50:09 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons They don't go away.

50:10 Drew Gilligan's Island.

50:11 Adam Yeah. It's like, I don't need to see Gilligan's Island. I don't see another I Love Lucy. I don't need to see another Brady Bunch. I do need to see some Partridge family and What's happening? Well, what's happening?

50:21 Drew I haven't seen McHale's Navy in a long time though.

50:23 Yeah.

50:23 Adam You probably wouldn't be thrilled with that. Errol?

50:27 Yes.

50:28 Drew Here we go.

50:28 Adam Here we go. 22.

50:31 Okay. Well, I was raised a Mormon in my...

50:38 Adam Fred Berry. Fred Re-Run Berry died 10-23-03.

50:42 Drew Wow.

50:43 Adam Wow. Coming on right up on two years. Couldn't have been too old.

50:48 Drew No. No.

50:49 Adam It's good to answer.

50:50 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Pop lucky.

50:51 Adam 50 years old. 52. 52 years old. Go ahead, Errol.

50:57 Okay.

50:57 Drew Are you a Mormon?

50:59 Oh, no, no. I'm not anymore. I was raised Mormon. I kind of fell away.

51:05 Drew How is it that a devoted fan like Errol would respond to that drop? Go ahead. It just never fails.

51:14 Adam Yeah, it's not true talking, but go ahead.

51:17 Okay. Well, I was raising a pretty strict household and my father had a lot of pornography around. I ran into it pretty young and I was fairly interested in it from a very young age.

51:45 Drew You're Mormon?

51:47 I was. Yeah.

51:49 Adam Keep asking, Drew. You can get to the bottom of that. Hey, Errol, are you a virgin?

51:55 Yeah. No, no. However, my first sexual foray was with an escort that I purchased after robbing a bank when I was 15 years old. And that was a pretty strange experience.

52:10 Adam Kid's got moxie, I'll give him that.

52:11 Drew You robbed a bank when you were 15?

52:14 I did. Well, it's a long story, which I'm sure you don't have time for here on the radio.

52:20 Drew No, I think I wanna hear it.

52:21 Adam Yeah, we have time.

52:21 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Yeah, for this one.

52:23 Adam Well, really what we have time for is for me to tell it, but not for you. So, hurry.

52:29 All right, well, I had a vicious dog next door to me when I was 14. I shot it. I had very small sisters who I was afraid it might kill. They'd killed several of our chickens as I shot the thing.

52:41 Adam What year are you calling from? The 30s? What goes on?

52:47 No, no.

52:48 Adam Picture him wearing knickers and one of those caps.

52:51 Drew Those linen caps.

52:53 Adam Yeah, taking it off when he's talking. Holding it with both hands when he apologizes. So you shot the neighbor's dog when you're 14. Right.

53:01 Caller So a cop showed up. He hauled me away for reckless endangerment because there were houses nearby. I was putting myself as a rapist. I was pretty freaked out by that. I called my parents, had them bail me out. My parents owed a decent amount of money for poor folk to the bail bondsmen. It took me about a year to pay off half of it. And my stepfather was getting pretty angry about the half that I hadn't paid. My mom, who was also very poor, offered to pay the other half off. I couldn't really stomach this. So I decided I was going to go find an alternate source of funding. That was robbing a bank. I did this. I got away with it. And three months later, with some of that money, I also purchased it.

53:48 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons How much money did you get?

53:51 Caller I got about four grand.

53:52 Adam How did you rob the bank?

53:55 Caller Very carefully.

53:57 Drew With a gun?

53:58 Caller No, no. I actually just wrote out a note to the teller telling her to give me the money, at which point I absconded with it and ran off with a car that I had borrowed from a yacht owner that I was employed by, who was out of town, and used the necessary portion of the money to pay back my stepfather and the rest was dealt with as any 15-year-old would deal with it.

54:26 Adam So you made $4,000.

54:29 Caller Yeah.

54:30 Drew Like any 15-year-old would deal with it, like buying a prostitute?

54:34 Caller I guess not any 15-year-old.

54:36 Drew And I understand in your mind, this has all gone off as completely justified action given the inappropriately being called in jail for God knows just shooting them at the neighbor's yard. Dog. Yeah, I understand.

54:48 Adam But yeah, I know. No, he knew he was shooting the dog.

54:51 Drew The point is this is beyond sociopathy. This is into psychopathy. This is like big stuff.

54:59 Caller I'm not proud of any of it.

55:01 Adam I know. But what have you done? Anything else like this in your life?

55:06 Caller Well, I mean, up to that point, no. And then after, Oh, so you had that up to the point where they started doing it.

55:13 Drew Yeah.

55:13 Adam So up, up into the point when you had your first drink, you hadn't been drinking.

55:18 Drew Okay.

55:19 Adam That's what that is.

55:20 Drew It is a patient that I see all the time too. I told him about the cancer. I never had cancer.

55:25 Adam Hitler never did anything bad until the point he got, he got to the point where he started doing bad things. So did everyone.

55:31 Drew Whatever the action or behavior is didn't happen until it started happening.

55:35 Adam I know. What is that with people? I never had cancer before.

55:38 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Yeah.

55:38 Drew I've been totally healthy my whole life. How could I have leukemia?

55:41 Adam Yeah.

55:41 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Yeah.

55:41 Adam You didn't have it before. You were. Now you have it. Yeah. That's how it works, everybody. All right, Errol. Wow. So what had, no, what have you done since then? Any more crimes we need to know about?

55:57 Drew Yes, of course.

55:58 Caller No, no, I'm sorry. What was that?

56:01 Adam Any more crimes?

56:02 Drew What other crimes?

56:04 Caller Serious ones?

56:06 Adam Yeah.

56:07 Drew Give us the whole list. I mean, your mind, serious may not, it may...

56:11 Adam Well, I don't need the whole list. I just...

56:13 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons The next crime.

56:14 Adam Errol sounds like an intelligent guy who's a sociopath and actually more dangerous than dumb people that are sociopaths because you could actually sort of rationalize what you're doing and talk your way around it.

56:29 Caller Well, yeah, you're probably right there.

56:33 Adam Now, I don't know, I'm not sure what to do with people that are sort of soulless and I don't know how you interject that soul into people, but at a certain point, because you're not stupid, you just need to realize that even if you don't think something's wrong or doesn't feel wrong, it still is wrong and therefore you should not do it.

56:53 Caller I've attempted to adopt exactly that philosophy into things and for that reason, I've not committed much more in the way of crime since.

57:04 Adam What are you doing now? Are you a publicist? Because that's really the only gig for you at this point. It's only the only job where not having a soul actually helps. You have to put it on your resume, but check that box.

57:19 Caller I'm in sales.

57:20 Drew Oh, no, no. Perfect.

57:24 Adam And are you doing okay? You don't have a girlfriend or anything, do you?

57:29 Caller Well, that's a whole other part to the whole thing.

57:32 Drew You still see prostitutes, right?

57:35 Caller No, I don't. After that whole episode, I came back to high school. It was an odd sort of celebrity, which was a little awkward.

57:50 Adam Odd celebrity because of the bank robbery?

57:52 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons What a dog shooting.

57:53 Caller Yeah, I am in a small town. So, I mean, that was a big deal. I ended up with a girlfriend through high school that I was very connected to. I was in love with her. We thought we were getting married, yada, yada, yada.

58:06 Adam Hold on a second, Errol, though. How does this work? I know maybe the law enforcement isn't what's depicted on the CSI series, but here's the whole thing, as I understand it. First off, this is a federal crime, you know, robbing a bank. And whether you actually brandish a gun or you just write it on a piece of paper and slide it across the tele, either way, it's 20 years. I mean, it's big trouble. You know, it's not even something, you know, it's not three years, it's 20 years. How is it that you could speak freely about this for so many months and people knew about it, and yet they never caught up to you? Yeah. Yeah.

58:45 Caller I didn't discuss this with very many people. I only told, well, I had an accomplice in it. And also I told my, one of my sisters, I have once again Mormon family, so there's five kids.

58:58 Drew Errol, Errol, it doesn't matter who you talk to about it. You said you were a celebrity and known for it.

59:04 Caller No, this is after I had been prosecuted and incarcerated and returned to the, I was let out, so I went back to jail.

59:13 Drew For the bank robbery?

59:15 Caller Right, yeah. I went to jail for about three and a half months.

59:18 Drew For the bank robbery?

59:19 Caller Yes.

59:20 Adam Oh, you did get busted for the bank robbery.

59:22 Caller I did. I thought I'd mention that. I'm sorry. No.

59:25 Adam Yeah. See, how'd that happen? How'd you get busted?

59:29 Caller Well, like I said, we were Mormon. One of my sisters, I have three older, found out about the...

59:35 Adam Drew, don't you want to know if he's Mormon?

59:37 Caller Yeah.

59:38 Adam She found out. Oh, she ratted you out. She did. She did.

59:44 Caller Three months later, after I had done the job.

59:47 Adam Who did she go to?

59:48 Caller She went to our bishop, which is like a pastor in Mormon, Mormon lingo.

59:53 Drew You Mormon?

59:57 Adam She went to your bishop.

59:58 Caller She went to my bishop. My bishop contacted a member of the police force that was in our church. He, you know, they set it up so that it would look like I'd turn myself in and allow you to do that.

1:00:11 Adam Oh, wow. That's good.

1:00:13 Caller Yeah.

1:00:14 Adam And were they more lenient on you because of that?

1:00:18 Caller Uh, somewhat. I received the standard sentence for second degree robbery.

1:00:22 Adam Did you did you have to rat out your partner?

1:00:26 Caller Well, my sister did that for me, so I didn't need to worry about it.

1:00:29 Adam Stooley dropped a dime on his ass. Wow. This guy must have been thrilled with your sister.

1:00:38 Caller Yeah.

1:00:39 Drew Did you do? I'm sure the church stepped in and tried to get you to do some rigorous work. Did you do any of it?

1:00:45 Caller Well, the thing was, as soon as this all occurred, obviously I was in a juvenile prison for a period of time. And, you know, it was three and a half months. And I was the smart mouthed light kid in there, which didn't go over so well. So I kind of had to develop a hardened shell in there. And after I got out, you know, going back to just normal, happy suburban life was not exactly in the car mentally.

1:01:17 Adam Wow. All right. I don't even know where we're at anymore.

1:01:20 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Oh, yeah, nothing.

1:01:21 Adam That's a fascinating tale.

1:01:23 Drew All right.

1:01:23 Adam So listen, Errol, what was his question? Yeah. Watching violent porn. All right.

1:01:28 Drew That's been part of the problem.

1:01:30 Adam Yeah.

1:01:30 Drew That does not help things.

1:01:32 Caller Okay.

1:01:32 Drew But that's not the total picture here.

1:01:35 Caller Yeah. Well, if it's convoluted and confusing, I'll feed to that. At any rate, yeah, my father had a lot of pornography around when I was very young. I was exposed to it. I've taken quite a liking to it. And at this point, you know, once I'm older, I'm, you know, I'm relatively ashamed that this is one of the things that I, you know, take pleasure in. And I've never acted on this in a serious way.

1:02:06 Drew But on the scale of things that you've told us you've done, it's the only thing that doesn't sort of register off the chart. You know what I mean? In terms of onerous activities. This one, he's keeping to himself. It's not something we should be indulging in. But compared to what he does otherwise, that's not even...

1:02:25 Adam Well, I'll assess Errol and say that for a 22-year-old, he's sure seen a lot. Number one, he's definitely not stupid. And sometimes that IQ can contain the impulses. And I think that Errol has a desire not to be a bad person.

1:02:47 Drew He describes some guilt and things that he sees capable of saying these things are wrong. What he lacks is empathy. He has to understand how other people feel.

1:02:55 Adam But I do think 22, 23, these couple of years, if he doesn't take the wrong turn off and puts together a few good years, it'll become a rhythm and it'll be easy at a certain point. I mean, here's the whole thing. Acting sane will eventually make you sane.

1:03:12 Drew Acting as if.

1:03:14 Adam As if. Act as if you're not a criminal, act as if you're not addicted to porn, act as if, just act as if. And now you can get therapy, you can read books, you can go to all the 12-step programs and all that's fine. But if you're in your heart of hearts, you're a thief, but you never steal anything, then you're not a thief. But you're practically not a thief.

1:03:35 Drew Unless he changes how he relates and feels about other people and himself in relation to people.

1:03:42 Adam Well, he's got to work on it, but I would argue that the first thing is is containing. Because once you start sliding, it just gets slippery and you just head down.

1:03:51 Drew And so, in a way, the pornography is part of that same slippery slope.

1:03:54 Adam Okay. All right. Errol, check back with us. You're an interesting case. Richard?

1:03:59 Caller Yeah.

1:04:00 Adam Twenty?

1:04:02 Caller Yeah.

1:04:02 Adam What's up?

1:04:05 Caller Just say, what's up, Adam, Dr. Drew? Dr. Drew and the great Rev Run in the building. Yeah. I wanted to ask the Reverend about his new show, Run's House, and about the new CD.

1:04:23 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Oh, what's the question? What about it?

1:04:26 Caller Yeah.

1:04:27 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons It's a good show.

1:04:29 Caller And I wanted to ask you the motivation for all this, all of a sudden. It's been a while since you've been really doing this thing other than, you know, your activities with church, everything motivational and everything.

1:04:39 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Why? I believe seasons changed. The doors kind of opened up and a lot of people asked me to do a lot of things. You know, P Diddy came to me, said, yo, he saw me in St. Bart's. He's like, you are a reality show money. You are Reverend, you are a rapper, you are a father. And I just looked the part and then Russell looked at me, said, I'm hearing these rhymes you're writing. That's my brother. And everybody just started gathering around. A lot of times when you are something, people start noticing it and then they give you a venue to do it in front of everybody. Whether the green light came for MTV or not, I was going to raise my family and be a rapping Reverend type of guy. But what happens is when you do it good enough, people want to have you share it with the world. So a lot of people go asking for stuff and people aren't interested because you haven't become it yet. I was already, I would say, a reality star. This was already in place and then people started making big offers because I was doing it so well.

1:05:41 Adam You're older than your brother Russell, is that correct?

1:05:43 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I'm seven years younger.

1:05:45 Adam Oh, is your brother that old? Are you that young?

1:05:48 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Yes. I'm 41. He's 48.

1:05:50 Adam Wow. You can't tell with brothers.

1:05:53 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Right. Well, we look alike.

1:05:54 Adam Everyone looks alike. No one gets old. What is that, Drew?

1:05:57 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons We just both look young.

1:05:58 Adam White people look like hell when they get hit. Come on, done. They get all bleached out. It's a mess and lines. You see those blonde chicks? They're all those chicks from all those shows you used to watch. They used to be hot and pound. They just hit a wall. You're black. You're 40 your whole life. You're 40 when you're 13. You're 40 when you're 80.

1:06:17 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons It's true.

1:06:18 Adam It's all over the map. It's true. That's all thing. I like to be white from zero to about 40 and then I'm going black. At a certain point, I might go Asian. That's my thing. When I get over 90, that's when I go Asian.

1:06:30 Drew Mark, so where you go Mexican?

1:06:32 Adam I'll take a, I'll take a, I'll go Mexican. I'll give a summer when I'm 39. So, you know, just to have a good time before I turn 40. You know what I mean? Like a big party. You know what I'm saying? Big, long party out on the beach. Then I go 40, then I go black, then I go 85. I go Asian and that's the whole thing. I become the old man with the beard. You know what I'm thinking? Everyone thinks I'm smart. No one would call a 90 year old Chinese guy stupid. I don't care if he's wearing a dunce, go wind up beanie. I don't care. I'm your genius. You know so much.

1:07:03 Drew Go blind.

1:07:04 Adam Yeah, what is that? Oh, by the way, when you're white and you're 90, you're dumb. When you're Chinese, you're 90. Oh, the wisdom, the wisdom, wisdom. The guy's been out in a rice paddy his entire life. Never read one book. Why does he get so much wisdom?

1:07:18 Drew Richard Pryor said you don't get to be old being a fool.

1:07:21 Adam Yeah. I don't even know what that means, but I agree with it. Hi, Richard. Speaking of Richard Pryor.

1:07:27 What's up?

1:07:28 Drew So yeah, I was going to ask this question.

1:07:30 Adam Yeah.

1:07:32 Caller Yeah, that was pretty much it, thanks.

1:07:35 Adam You cool, Richard? All right, make a little room. We're going to hear something else from the Rev tonight.

1:07:41 Drew Right now?

1:07:42 Adam Yeah, I like to mix that up. I'm trying to think. I think I like to go 0 to 10 as a blonde girl.

1:07:53 Drew Scandinavian. You go Scandinavian?

1:07:54 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons You're breaking this down. I'm interested. This is fly.

1:07:59 Adam I go, I think I go 10 to 20 as like an Italian type guy, dark eyes and swarthy, Mediterranean look. And 20 to 40, I just go as white guy. And then I go black at 40 and I hang there.

1:08:17 Drew 75.

1:08:17 Adam 75?

1:08:18 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons But you keep the money from the white man gig.

1:08:20 Adam That's right.

1:08:21 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I thought that.

1:08:21 Adam That's right. I socked away the money I got paid for being blonde.

1:08:25 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Part of the strategy.

1:08:26 Adam Yeah, because when you got blue eyes, you could check the mail every month.

1:08:29 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I was checking. I felt when you said from 20, you said, OK, you're going to get paid and then go be black and look young with the money.

1:08:36 Adam Yeah.

1:08:37 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Instead of the wrinkles in the money.

1:08:38 Adam No, no. I take the new by young black skin at 40. And now I got some money in my pocket and I run a muck like Byron Allen. I'm up at the Playboy Mansion every week having a good time. Then when I get to 80, I'm trying to think, you know what? I'll tell you what, Marcus, I'll go Mexican from 75 to 80 just to see how I like it. Simple life, do a lot of fishing, you know what I mean?

1:09:04 Drew Sleeping.

1:09:04 Adam Yeah, when it gets hot, I don't have air conditioning, so when it gets hot, I got to go down.

1:09:08 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons You get going hot, man.

1:09:09 Adam I take a nap when it gets hot outside, but it's a simple life. I enjoy my family, you know what I mean?

1:09:14 Drew Then 80?

1:09:15 Adam 80, that's when I go Chinese.

1:09:17 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons So people can say good things about you.

1:09:19 Adam Yeah, I go Chinese and I get the respect, you know what I mean? And people just sort of wait for me, like I've come down from the mountain with some news. Everything I say.

1:09:27 Drew Do you think that's a Chinese man or a little skinny?

1:09:31 Adam Yeah, no, skinny.

1:09:32 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Well, you could become Jamaican with the dreads and have lots of wisdom too.

1:09:35 Adam Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I could handle the dreads out in the San Fernando Valley with the heat and everything. No, I go Chinese, yeah, skinny, but with big calves.

1:09:45 Drew Okay.

1:09:45 Adam Well defined calves. Yeah, where they go, wow, look at that guy, he's got nice calves for an 80 year old guy. Yeah, that's the guy I am. And I have the long beard, I stroke it when I think. Not the beard, I mean, I masturbate when I think. And people respect me, that's all. I'm a community leader.

1:10:01 Drew You're blind?

1:10:01 Adam People know me. One eye, but still a lot of people say I see better than those with 2020 vision. Yeah, I have that thing where my eyes are white. I smoke a long pipe, there's not opium in it. You know what I mean? I think I got this pretty well worked out. Now, oh, I didn't tell you though, that's 80, that's just 80 to 95. 95 to 115 I go as a crazy woman from the Ukraine.

1:10:28 Drew Oh yeah, yeah.

1:10:28 Adam Huge nose and the seahag hair, you know.

1:10:34 Drew She looks the same upside down as right now.

1:10:36 Adam I don't look any different. And I have no teeth and I chew on my own lips. I just chew on myself.

1:10:42 Drew Wear babushka.

1:10:43 Adam The babushka thing tied around the thing and I'm slumped over, but still people are scared of me. You know what I mean?

1:10:49 Drew You talk to yourself.

1:10:50 Adam I chase people away. I use a cane. It doesn't seem like I need it to walk. I use it to swing and chase. You're fat again.

1:10:55 Drew You're fat again now.

1:10:56 Adam Yeah, the only people that get off the lawn constantly. That's my thing. And that's how I go. And I hate everyone, but I'm really good to my own family. Come eat, eat, come, come eat. And then I go out in the lawn, start screaming at everyone again. Get off the lawn. Yes. Yes. And I'm cooking. There's a pot going. Never stop.

1:11:13 Caller Black.

1:11:14 Adam Never stop.

1:11:14 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons A black pot.

1:11:15 Adam Big black pot.

1:11:16 Caller Big iron.

1:11:17 Adam Big kettle.

1:11:17 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Kettle.

1:11:18 Adam Don't wash it. It's got oil in there from 1933. And I just keep going with that big, big skillet.

1:11:24 Drew From the Great Patriotic War.

1:11:26 Adam Yeah. And here's the thing. I have like osteoporosis. I can barely move, but I lift 70 pounds worth of goulash in an iron pot and drag it into the other room every day. Yes.

1:11:38 Drew Perfect.

1:11:39 Adam Perfect. All right. We'll take a quick break. Rev Run here and we'll come back. Here's something off the new CD, all that after this.

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1:12:08 Caller Hey, everybody, it's Love Line.

1:12:09 Adam I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Rev Run is here tonight from Legendary Act, Run DMC. I think we're going to be voting on some things pretty soon. I don't know if it's that way in the rest of the country, but certainly out here in California. But when it does come time to cast your vote for any proposition, I'm not going to tell you which one to vote for, because I never know. It's just the more commercials you see for one, you know to vote against that one.

1:12:39 Drew Right. How about the more commercials against something?

1:12:41 Adam Well, then you go the other way. When you see the more commercials for something, you go the other way. You're not going to get burned nine times out of ten. And when you see the ones that just sound insane, like when they do that one where it's like, Governor Schwarzenegger wants cops and firemen to go away. You know, it's like, what?

1:13:02 Drew He wants what?

1:13:03 Adam He wants what? He wants cops, teachers, and firemen to disappear.

1:13:07 Drew He wants your kids to have teachers.

1:13:09 Adam He wants your children to be raised by coyotes and no cops and no firemen and no teachers. Vote no on props that, whenever you hear that, just go the other way. Cause somebody's telling you something that ain't true. That's it. Whoever has the most money and is going to throw it in a proposition one way or the other, you go the opposite way. Because we got somebody with a bunch of money trying to tell you to do something, you go the other way.

1:13:32 Drew Cause the only reason they're doing it is to protect their money.

1:13:33 Adam They're trying to protect their money and they're making an investment. And that's how you know. That's how you know with anything, any campaign especially. The more commercials you hear for prop whatever, vote against prop. The more commercials you hear against prop whatever, vote for it. That's how you know.

1:13:49 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Bloomberg is spending some money in New York, I'll tell you that.

1:13:52 Drew About his own thing?

1:13:55 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons I don't know. I think he's either promoting himself or he's spending a lot of money, put it that way.

1:14:00 Adam Just vote against whatever you see the most stuff. Sarah?

1:14:06 Caller Hello? Yes.

1:14:09 Adam Yeah.

1:14:10 Caller How are you? Good.

1:14:12 Caller What's happening?

1:14:14 Caller I am a heroin addict. I've been smoking heroin for the last almost two years now.

1:14:20 Adam Smoking heroin?

1:14:21 Caller Yeah.

1:14:21 Adam According to Prop 75, if Schwarzenegger has his way, you'll be raising Drew's children. That's what Prop 75 is. He wants heroin addicts to raise other people's kids.

1:14:31 Drew You're a heroin addict. What's the question, Sarah?

1:14:34 Caller Basically, my question is, as I was reading, I'm very much interested in getting treatment. And I was told by a friend that there is something called Ibogaine.

1:14:44 Drew There is no easy, Sarah, if there were some easy and magic way to treat heroin addiction, it would be adapted immediately. Ibogaine has been studied, been around for a long time. It does do, it's not for withdrawal, it's to block sort of the drive to use. It does actually do something. And what I've observed, I've treated a number of patients who have been exposed to this product, it seems to drop, to reduce the drive to use for about three months, and then everyone goes back after that time. And the price is, though, these people have personality changes. It is a powerful hallucinogen that seems to cause something called excitotoxicity, which is a brain damaging effect, and mood disturbances, all the stuff we typically see from lots of LSD or ecstasy.

1:15:32 Adam You own stock in this company, Drew.

1:15:34 Drew I love it, okay. No, it's an interesting idea, needs to be further studied, but at this point, no way can it be recommended. So you need to set aside about three to six months, and get treatments there.

1:15:46 Adam Look at the commercials, cops, there's firemen, there's school teachers, hold on, they're gonna tell us what they're out of. They got a nurse in there, come on.

1:15:55 Drew Whatever it is.

1:15:56 Adam Whatever it is.

1:15:57 Drew We're going the other way.

1:15:58 Adam There's Schwarzenegger, he wants nurses, cops and firemen to be killed and thrown in a mass grave. Yeah.

1:16:05 Drew But he wants your car to be driving on lots of gas.

1:16:06 Adam That's another commercial. Drew, they went to another commercial.

1:16:11 Drew You're right.

1:16:11 Adam Alright. So listen, Sarah.

1:16:13 Drew You need to put aside of several months. Yeah. You need to be treated. It's going to take some time. Heroin addiction takes a lot of time, a lot of energy, a lot of focus.

1:16:22 Caller Right. And also another question is, I also like many other addicts. I don't have a lot of money to set aside for treatment.

1:16:31 Caller So is there some other option that I would have as far as-

1:16:35 Drew How much do you spend a day on heroin?

1:16:37 Caller Sorry?

1:16:39 Drew How much do you spend every day on heroin?

1:16:41 Caller I don't know daily.

1:16:42 Caller Like probably I would say about $500 to $700 a month.

1:16:49 Drew Okay. For $800 a month, you can enroll in a sober living anywhere in town.

1:16:52 Adam Really?

1:16:52 Drew Yep. That includes food. You're good to go. So there you just change your-

1:16:55 Adam Hold on. I want to say this. I want to do this one. You can't afford not to get sober. I like that blowhard.

1:17:01 Drew Do you have insurance?

1:17:02 Caller I don't have insurance.

1:17:04 Drew So try to call around various sober livings. See if you can get somewhere that does a little detox. Then you're good.

1:17:10 Adam You're good to go. What is different-

1:17:12 Drew Check out Sister Ada's or Casa de Las Amigas. Those are two places.

1:17:17 Adam They got a great margarita over at Casa de Las Amigas. Kitchen open until 12, amigos. I've seen the sign. Hey, Drew, what is Casa de Las Amigas? I'd be pissed if they didn't have some good Mexican food at that place. By the way, when I'm Mexican for four months, from 39 to- wait, what did I say? I was going for a few years.

1:17:38 Drew We gotta go to La Cabanita.

1:17:39 Adam I gotta eat some good Mexican food.

1:17:40 Drew I'll tell you, man.

1:17:41 Adam That is- that's my heroine, Mexican food boy. How can you go wrong? You know, those people should be sued. Here's the thing. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to take a bunch of beef. We're going to marinate it. We're going to cook it over an open flame. They're going to put a bunch of tortillas and rice. We're going to melt cheese over the whole thing and put some mole sauce and we're big little guacamole. And here's a margarita. It's like, ah, bah, how can I not eat this? You know what I mean? Look, I don't care if you cannot stay in the taste of tequila or alcohol, a margarita is still good. There's nothing you can eat at a Mexican restaurant that won't make you fat. Do you realize beer is like dark, rich, amber ale is the closest to locale at a Mexican restaurant that you can do. But I mean, can't you taste? My mouth is watering right now. I was thinking about the rice and the cheese melting over and the little beans melted on top of the cheese, the chips dipping into the salsa.

1:18:38 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons The whole thing.

1:18:39 Adam Oh, I'll get the corn tortillas and start sort of make them. Okay.

1:18:44 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons The tortillas are even heavy. Just the chips that they put on the table at first.

1:18:47 Drew There's nothing that they, I, they, well, it's not fried fatty.

1:18:52 Adam Listen, you grab a toothpick, it's rolled in cinnamon and sugar and lard.

1:18:57 Drew They have deep fried.

1:18:57 Adam They have deep fried toothpicks.

1:18:59 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Deep fried.

1:19:00 Adam Deep fried toothpicks. That's what happened. I went to my dentist, he's like, oh crap, you need a root canal. You've been using too many Mexican toothpicks?

1:19:07 Drew It's the only sort of ethnic food on earth that has fried ice cream. I know. Wow. Fried ice cream. And it's fantastic.

1:19:15 Adam I could see them in the lab in Mexico. Hey, boss, the ice cream's for you. Not bad enough for you. Well, deep fry it. Really? It's a bunch of just sugar and cholesterol.

1:19:26 Drew Put some more sugar on top.

1:19:27 Adam More sugar.

1:19:27 Drew Deep fry it.

1:19:28 Adam Deep fry it. More sugar. And then deep fry it again. And then put it on top of a, put it on a shell. Put a shell. Deep fry something. Would you deep fry? Are you deep frying? They must yell at each other all the time in the background. I don't see you deep frying. And the guy's like, we're out of tortillas. Throw your shoe in there. You just keep deep frying. Man, I know, I know.

1:19:50 Drew Good fried ice cream.

1:19:52 Adam Oh, it's so good.

1:19:54 Drew So good.

1:19:54 Adam And here's the thing too, and they're smart because they're not all over the road from a culinary standpoint. It's like, you get your choice. You want beef, beans, rice, tortillas and cheese, or you want the cheese, beans, rice, tortilla, beef. And it's all same meal. What do you do for breakfast?

1:20:08 Drew Chicken, beef, lamb.

1:20:08 Adam Breakfast? Oh, we do some beef and some beans and some eggs and some tortillas and some cheese. Oh, what's for lunch? Oh, it's tortillas, cheese, beef and then rice and beans. Oh, what's dinner? Oh, well, dinner. Now that's totally, that's a departure. That's beans, cheese, rice, tortillas and beef.

1:20:23 Drew And mole.

1:20:24 Adam And mole. And then we're going to deep fry a piñata and put up your ass. That'll be dessert filled with Abba's Abbas. There you go. How do those people live past 30? You know what I mean? All right, look, come on, let's get some Mexican food. Let's wrap it up. Picture margaritas, a little sugary, put the salt. I like the way they add the salt to the margarita thing. It's like, well, sure, we're giving the guy diabetes with the sugar, but I think we could raise it if we gave him salt, too.

1:20:55 Drew The alcohol drives pressure up, but we'll give him a stroke with the salt.

1:20:58 Adam We'll give him a stroke with the salt. Yeah, make the rock salt. Yeah, it's awesome. All right, let's hear something from Rev Run, shall we?

1:21:05 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Drop it like it's hot.

1:21:07 Adam Oh man, I got to get some Mexican food. That's it. I'm going off. Wait, Drew, we're doing Mexican this weekend.

1:21:13 Drew Yeah, La Cabanita, come on.

1:21:14 Adam Okay.

1:21:14 Drew You know what I'm talking about.

1:21:15 Adam No, I do know.

1:21:16 Drew That Crystal Method brings in that food all the time.

1:21:18 Adam Awesome. All right, let's go. Let's go now.

1:21:20 Drew I've got a gift certificate. I've got a gift certificate.

1:21:22 Adam All right, you're busting it out. We're going Saturday. Rev Run in studio tonight, Home Sweet Home, name of the new song off the Distortion CD. And it goes a little something like this. Yeah, everybody. Rev Run in the studio tonight.

1:23:51 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Distortion, out now, today.

1:23:53 Adam As we speak, Tuesday, we'll... I gotta do something, Drew. I gotta do something with my mouth. All right, we'll take a quick break. When we come back, blood, cots, and lungs. Think about restoring foreskin. I like that. Jaden wants to put his foreskin back.

1:24:12 Drew We'll take John quick first.

1:24:14 Adam No, no. All right, all right, all right. And then Jaden after this.

1:24:19 Caller Hello, what is it?

1:24:30 Adam Yeah, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-191, Rev Run is in studio tonight. Of course, from the world famous Run DMC. Now doing his own thing. Got himself a CD, which dropped today. It's gonna be on Jay Leno tonight. Yep. Tonight's show tonight. Distortion, name of the CD. And let's go back to the phone. So I'll be fast with John, because it might get boring.

1:24:58 Caller Hey, how's it going, guys?

1:24:59 Adam 25, what's up?

1:25:01 Caller I have a question. I've been doing exercise for all my life. I was a bodybuilder before. Couple of months ago, I got back from work, I couldn't breathe right. And then I ended up in the hospital for blood clots in my lungs.

1:25:18 Drew Nice.

1:25:19 Caller I was smoking a lot, and I was a little bit overweight, about 30, 40 pounds.

1:25:25 Drew Taking steroids?

1:25:27 Caller Excuse me?

1:25:27 Drew Were you taking steroids?

1:25:29 Caller Before, yes.

1:25:31 Caller Well.

1:25:32 Drew Since I was about 16.

1:25:33 Adam Did it cause that?

1:25:33 Drew Yeah, it caused that.

1:25:35 Adam It can.

1:25:35 Caller 16, 17, but not at the moment when I was, when I had the blood clots. I mean, I, when I had the blood clots, it was like at least three years since I had taken steroids.

1:25:43 Adam All right.

1:25:44 Drew All right.

1:25:45 Caller And I go, you know, I'm taking cumulant, I'm on five milligrams a day.

1:25:50 Adam They're blood thinner?

1:25:52 Drew Blood thinner, yeah.

1:25:53 Caller I don't drink. I, I don't smoke anymore.

1:25:55 Drew What's your question?

1:25:56 Adam Drinking will thin it out a little on it.

1:25:58 Drew Yeah, that's true. What's your question?

1:25:59 Adam Start drinking.

1:26:00 Caller So what, I mean, what would cause blood clots? They have no clue at all. I mean, they check my legs for bruises. They checked everything.

1:26:07 Drew And no, they don't check for bruises. They check for blood clots in the veins in your legs. And that's probably where they came from, though they can move up to the lung. They come from the pelvis too. The, you know, your age with your steroid history, the thing you want to make sure of is that there's not a cancer hiding, because that's the one that will cause that. Yes, cause hypercoagulability, absolutely cancer can. So you need to be, you know, followed by your doctors and be checked regularly to make sure there's not, this isn't the first manifestation of a more serious issue.

1:26:35 Adam All right, let's talk to Jaden now, who wants to have his foreskin put back on. Jaden?

1:26:41 Caller Hey, what's going on?

1:26:43 Adam You, do you have the old foreskin?

1:26:45 Caller No, I do not.

1:26:47 Adam Okay, cause Drew's mom has hit, her, his, under her pillow, right Drew? You were saying?

1:26:53 Drew Mummified.

1:26:53 Adam Oh, mummified. Where is it?

1:26:56 Drew In a Coptic jar.

1:26:57 Adam It's a Coptic jar, it's filled with formaldehyde. It actually looks bigger the way, you know, through the light.

1:27:01 Drew Through the distortion.

1:27:02 Adam Through the distortion, yeah. I would go ahead and take it off the top of the fridge. Someone's gonna knock that off. Jaden?

1:27:08 Caller Yeah.

1:27:09 Adam How do you, how do you plan to restore it?

1:27:12 Caller Well, see, I just met this guy like two and a half years ago and he's my voice for now and he's uncut and I think it's totally hot and, you know, I just was looking online at stuff and I, you know, bumped into a couple websites on there with, I don't know, I just, I didn't even think you could even have the possibility of doing anything like that and I just, I saw it on there and.

1:27:35 Adam How do they do it? Because I've heard of a few, a few techniques.

1:27:38 Drew Mostly they just kind of stretch it out.

1:27:40 Adam Try to stretch it out.

1:27:42 Caller Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I can surgically do it and, you know, you can.

1:27:45 Drew Rev, what do you think?

1:27:45 Adam How do they surgically do it?

1:27:47 Drew Are there better things to preoccupy his time, you think?

1:27:49 Adam Well, that's a leading question.

1:27:50 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons How do they leave this up to you, Doc?

1:27:52 Drew Just saying.

1:27:52 Adam Well, here's, okay, here's the thing. You can stretch out what you have because some people get left with more than others. And now let's not work, Drew, let's not discuss the ramifications of this just yet or whether it's a worthwhile endeavor. Let's just try to approach it from a technical standpoint.

1:28:10 Drew It's probably easier for some than others.

1:28:12 Adam Some guys seem to get left with more and then some guys have nothing to work with. So if you have nothing to work with, then what do you have to work with, Jaden?

1:28:21 Caller Oh, I'm pretty good down there, you know? I mean, I'm not...

1:28:24 Drew No, is there anything that... Is it easy to stretch something? Is it something easy to plop?

1:28:28 Adam What a burden it is for me, not to have anyone ever know what I'm talking about.

1:28:31 Caller I know. Yes, I do. Like I don't have to do anything like that ever.

1:28:34 Drew Oh, geez.

1:28:35 Caller Hey, Jaden. Yeah.

1:28:38 Adam Jaden, we're not one of your cornhole buddies. We're just asking about your penis.

1:28:43 Caller No, I know that. Okay.

1:28:45 Adam Do you have much foreskin left?

1:28:48 Caller Yeah.

1:28:48 Adam Or is it almost all gone?

1:28:50 Caller No, yeah. I mean, I've seen different techniques that you can do. I just, I haven't really... I mean...

1:28:55 Adam There's a medical tape I think you can use to stretch it out and stuff. Here's the thing, though. That just means you're nuts, Jaden.

1:29:03 Caller No, it doesn't.

1:29:04 Adam Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Hey, Jaden, listen to me. Listen to me. I'm twice as smart as you are. Listen to me. Every one of these guys who becomes obsessed with this is just nuts or super angry at their parents. It's one or the other or possibly both. So if you want to join the ranks of the insane who are angry at their parents, go right ahead. You will get nothing from this experience.

1:29:27 Caller I'm not. I mean, people go on, they get, you know, tons of weight loss, you know, surgically or...

1:29:33 Drew And you can't.

1:29:34 Adam That's it. Someone is morbidly obese and going to die of heart failure in a few months. So they go ahead and get a procedure to correct that. That's the exact same thing as a guy tying fishing weights to what's left of his foreskin and dragging them around work all day. Yeah. You guys are the same.

1:29:49 Drew Anyway, there is some good...

1:29:52 Adam Why stop at the morbidly obese? Why don't you just say, look, our brave soldiers over in Iraq, when they take shrapnel, should we just let them bleed to death? Or how about a surgeon comes in and puts them back together?

1:30:04 Drew Well, anyway, there is some good reason, not a key, to get rid of this foreskin, not the least of which are all of the mechanical problems, the stenosis and tearing, all kinds of stuff. But now it looks as though STDs are significantly less at risk for the circumcised male.

1:30:17 Adam They hide.

1:30:18 Drew They hide in the foreskin.

1:30:20 Adam They lurk there and then they pounce. Hey, Jayden, that's enough. Stop it. Focus on other things, would you? Look, everybody, you want to know what... I'll tell you what insane is. Almost the definition of insanity is when you focus and spend lots of time on stuff that doesn't matter. That's true. Such as... I remember once when I was working construction for a living, I went into a guy's apartment where we're doing this condemned apartment building and he had himself... You know the milk containers? Milk boxes that have the missing kids on them? He had every panel cut out from every half-gallon size milk carton and he had it stacked up high to the ceiling and wide. I mean years and years and years of missing kids. He would cut out the panel. My guess is he went through two half-gallons a week and every week he cut out the panel with the missing kid on it and he stacked it in his apartment. Now, that is a huge waste of time, but that's what you do when you're nuts. That's an example of being super nuts and doing something. But there are lesser versions of that. Just obsessing on your foreskin is enough. You know what I'm saying?

1:31:32 Drew Absolutely, absolutely.

1:31:34 Adam Not as nuts as cutting the kids out?

1:31:36 Drew Hand washing, pulling your hair, all that stuff.

1:31:38 Adam Right, now here's the deal. You wash your hands eight times a day, you got a little issue. You wash it 80 times a day, you're nuts.

1:31:48 Drew That's a problem.

1:31:49 Adam That's all it is. Show me a person who doesn't waste a second of time with irrational behavior or irrational activities. I'll show you the same person. You have to obsess on things.

1:32:01 Drew So you're obsessing. Quickly, Joe, before we get around time. I want to stress this one thing.

1:32:05 Adam All right.

1:32:06 Drew Joe, 25?

1:32:08 Caller Yeah. What's up? All right. Well, my question is, I was an ex-heroin addict for years, from like 17 till 21. I'm now 25, been clean for a while. I now have hepatitis C. I just found out about it probably a week ago.

1:32:27 Drew What's your question?

1:32:28 Caller Well, they want to put me on Interferon.

1:32:30 Drew Thank God. It's going to save your life.

1:32:33 Caller Well, see, the thing is, I own a business now and I've actually come pretty far from being a heroin addict to what I do now, but to go on the Interferon, all I hear is people get sick and they-

1:32:45 Drew Yeah, it makes you-

1:32:46 Adam I have a friend who's on it.

1:32:47 Drew You're on it about three to six months on it and you feel like you have the flu many times.

1:32:51 Adam I have a friend who has a lot of dry mouth and stuff like that, but he's fine.

1:32:54 Drew Yeah, but some people can really feel kind of flu-y, but you're talking about avoiding end-stage liver disease and-

1:32:59 Adam True, he's got a business...

1:33:00 Drew .and hepatic cancer, which is what's going to happen if you don't get rid of this virus.

1:33:04 Adam You're not going to be able to run that business from the grave, my friend, unless you do some sort of phone system or intercom. I would imagine you couldn't just yell.

1:33:13 Drew From the grave.

1:33:14 Adam Well, I'm not saying it's going to be dead, I just mean from the grave.

1:33:17 Drew You haven't seen The Corpse Bride.

1:33:19 Adam No. We're going to take ourselves a quick break. We'll be right back after this. That's the show, everyone. I want to thank Run Rev for Rev Run for coming in here tonight. I appreciate it. Yeah, we appreciate it, too.

1:34:09 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons You say it fast, it says Rev Run.

1:34:11 Adam Rev Run.

1:34:12 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons Rev Run.

1:34:12 Adam Yeah, Rev Run. Rev Run for coming in here. Name of the CD, Distortion, out as we speak. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.

1:34:22 Caller Okay, I suppose you want to know, like, where's dad, right?

1:34:26 Caller Dad's dead. Dead dad.

1:34:28 Joseph ‘Rev Run’ Simmons He's picking up speed.

1:34:30 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station.

1:34:42 Adam The producer for Loveline is Aningold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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