Episode 1000731367132

0:57 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience.

1:01 Voiceover Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content.

1:04 Voiceover Sexually-oriented content. Listener discretion is advised.

1:08 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised.

1:13 Voiceover This is Loveline.

1:17 Voiceover With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

1:20 Voiceover Yeah, it's Loveline. Adam, Adam, that's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Addiction Medicine Specialist. Lisa Edelstein is here tonight.

1:33 Lisa Edelstein Hi. Hi.

1:34 Adam She's from House. Big hit on Fox, Tuesday nights, nine o'clock. And Drew, it's a show about medicine, so I'm assuming...

1:42 Drew I don't watch those.

1:43 Lisa Edelstein Do you really? You don't watch them? This one's really entertaining because the lead guy gets to say all kinds of mean things to his patients.

1:50 Drew I know.

1:51 Lisa Edelstein Many doctors live vicariously. Yeah.

1:53 Adam He just had... I just saw in the spot during the commercial of a football game where a guy collapses. He had to yell for cleanup.

2:00 Oh, fine.

2:01 Adam Yeah. You don't do that, do you, Drew?

2:03 Drew No.

2:04 Adam I mean, you have a patient collapse. You don't call for a nurse. You have sex with them.

2:09 Drew How dare you?

2:09 Lisa Edelstein But once they're down on the ground, it's just easy access.

2:13 Drew I wouldn't do.

2:13 Adam Right, right. Lisa, by the way, Dr. Drew, not well tonight.

2:17 Drew No.

2:18 Adam What's going on?

2:19 Drew Hey, lovely, you know, vomiting, diarrhea. It's a good thing. It's a good time. It's washed out.

2:23 Adam When did you vomit last?

2:25 Drew During the night.

2:25 Lisa Edelstein Last night?

2:26 Drew I've had intense nausea, trying to make it not happen.

2:29 Adam Really?

2:29 Drew Yeah.

2:30 Lisa Edelstein Nausea is the worst. It's so exhausting.

2:33 Adam Nothing worse. Nothing worse.

2:35 Drew Can we not talk about it?

2:36 Adam All right.

2:36 Drew But. It reminded me. It was crazy enough. Today, I was having a flashback to a car trip Adam and I took in Philadelphia.

2:45 Adam We drove from Philadelphia to Maryland. Maryland. Yeah. Oh, then still still unable to get a clear story on who Chevy Chase is and what Chevy Chase Maryland is and who was Chevy Chase. And people are like, yeah, he was on. He played Flash. No, no, there's a guy named Chevy Chase. And there's a bunch of streets named Chevy Chase. And there's a Chevy Chase Maryland. And we can't get a story on who who the original Chevy Chase was. It does Chevy Chase, the actor. Did he get named after the great Chevy Chase who settled Maryland?

3:21 Drew Oh, very interesting.

3:22 Adam Glendale.

3:23 Drew Nearly as important to me as the experience I had lying desperately on the back of that car, wanting to wretch with a fever while Adam and the driver carried on about meatball sandwiches or food.

3:34 Lisa Edelstein Oh, that's so unfair.

3:36 Drew Finally, I just sat up just just showed up.

3:38 Adam He screamed. I still hear his voice echoing in my in my head.

3:43 Lisa Edelstein I threw up once on the way to camp when I was seven years old and somebody asked me if it was chunky. And after that, I couldn't.

3:49 Adam That's it.

3:49 Lisa Edelstein I couldn't eat anything that had chunky on the package.

3:52 Adam Did you? You know, I'm trying to think, see, Drew. Well, we don't want to talk about it anymore.

3:57 Lisa Edelstein But.

3:58 But OK, well, let's talk about diarrhea.

4:00 Drew All right, let's do it. That was a little easier on me.

4:02 Lisa Edelstein Yeah.

4:02 Adam So what do you think you got?

4:05 Drew Did you get something viral gas? You got a virus.

4:07 Adam And and what is everyone's freaking out every year about the bird flu?

4:11 Drew Well, this year, China flu. Czar preoccupations with the Czar, which has had one documented case of human to human transmission.

4:19 Adam And and you know, Canada's got this remedy. We should order it by the case.

4:26 Drew We should. It's called neuraminidase.

4:27 Lisa Edelstein It's an antiviral.

4:28 Drew They're called neuraminidase inhibitors and they block the viral release from the cell, basically, because virus has to go out and other cells infect them and reproduce. If you stay stuck to the cell you started with, you can't go out and reproduce.

4:39 Adam Here's what happens.

4:40 Lisa Edelstein So it reduces the symptoms. It doesn't cure you.

4:42 Drew No, it prevents the virus from reproducing. So during the first 48 hours of viral infection, if you catch it in time, right? If you catch it, then you can block the growth and therefore block the syndrome.

4:53 Adam Here's what I've realized. This is how people work, which is if you put people are supposed to be sort of fighting for their lives on a daily basis. I mean, trying to get enough food to sustain themselves for another day, being chased by animals and that kind of stuff. When you eliminate all that aspect of life and just have a person sit around an air-conditioned house with a cupboard filled with dried food and a refrigerator filled with milk and eggs, they start obsessing on other things because there's that sort of human drive to survive, except for we've eliminated it, and it now gets replaced by talking about pit bull attacks and dirty bombs. That's I think when you take a human being and you remove all of the elements of danger, struggle and survivor, then you get neurotic. Yeah. That's what you get. That's why the Jews are neurotic and the blacks aren't. Because they're still dodging gunfire and trying to get something to eat. The Jews got all worked out. That's why they think they have a tumor every 20 seconds. Think about it, Drew. Jews, they're comfortable, they're cool, they got stuff worked out.

6:02 Lisa Edelstein Except that every few generations, people have to like slaughter the herd.

6:06 Adam Well, it is true. It is true. Once in a while, Hitler pops up, but I'm saying in general, people who are living sort of hand to mouth in Africa, they're not neurotic. They can't afford to be neurotic.

6:19 Drew Also, the real thing is we have erased genuine medical problems from the face of America. People don't know the difference between a real problem and not a real problem.

6:28 Lisa Edelstein It's true. I was traveling in India. I was just telling Dr. Drew I was traveling in India and I was having I had lunch with my driver's family. It was 28 people living in a very small room and five of them had typhoid.

6:40 Drew Nice.

6:41 Adam Yeah. Pass the chutney, baby. Yeah. And that's the thing. So what do we start? What do we start assessing on? Killer mold and allergies that don't exist. You know, this country has more people with more food allergies that don't exist. How come magically the poor Mexicans are waiting over at the Home Depot to jump in the back of the back? Do they have any food allergies? Oh, no, I don't do. No, I can't eat. I can only eat the flour tortillas. I cannot eat the corn ones.

7:08 Drew They're eating the cactus in the back of your house.

7:10 Adam Right. They don't. Poor people magically have no food allergies. They never go anywhere. And like, and they're like, is there dairy product in that? Is there flour? I have a wheat allergy. How come when you're poor, you don't get to have allergies? Why? Because you make them up when you're rich. That's what you do. And you love, and those people, and, and oh, they're, oh, they're in, they're, they're all the environmental allergies with the carpet and the paint. And it's only poor people have the, only rich people have this. Poor people magically, they're not allergic to their sofa. They'll sleep on anything at any time. I know we all have that component.

7:46 Lisa Edelstein But they're, I mean, there are poor people who are living in such poor conditions, such foul conditions. But those who would get sick, they get actually, and also those are the areas where the people are the least educated and don't realize they're being poisoned, toxically poisoned.

8:00 Adam They drink, yeah, well, they drink water that's contaminated, but they're not allergic to the paint on the wall of the house that has no paint on it, by the way.

8:08 Lisa Edelstein Or the, the gas station that, that's on that block in that area, like the gas is leaking into the water system. There's all kinds of problems that go on.

8:15 Drew Go to a county, go to a county hospital, you don't see that kind of thing. What you see is tens of thousands of people with genuine medical problems because they get them.

8:26 Adam Get Drew, get Drew a consulting gig on house.

8:28 Drew Yeah, that'd be good.

8:29 Lisa Edelstein Come on.

8:30 Drew I'm gonna come on. Once I get over the vomiting, I'm ready to come on.

8:33 Lisa Edelstein Bring the vomit with you.

8:34 Adam Yeah, you'd be the consultant on house. You know, Drew doesn't watch medical shows because he-

8:40 Lisa Edelstein It's a shame, I think you'd really like it.

8:41 Drew They drive me crazy. They do?

8:43 Lisa Edelstein Well, because sometimes the science is a little bit sketchy.

8:46 Drew The science is sketchy and the-

8:47 Lisa Edelstein But my father's a doctor, he loves it.

8:48 Drew But things are so over- because you're in it. If you were in it, if you were my daughter, I'd love it too. But things are so over dramatized.

8:55 How dare you, Drew? It's a good show.

8:56 Drew It is a great show. It is a great show. But when someone- How do you know it's a great show?

8:59 Lisa Edelstein You've never seen it.

9:00 Adam Hold on, I didn't say great, I said good.

9:02 I heard a lot about it and I watched it.

9:03 Drew But when the doctor says, the patient is having a cardiac arrest, I'm like, okay, I guess her child. It's like he's coding, let's go. It's just as if it's your job. You're not announcing things.

9:17 Lisa Edelstein We do it that way.

9:19 Adam Come on, Drew, give it a chance.

9:20 Lisa Edelstein But what I love is that we-

9:22 Drew Tuesday night, I got to have a date with that. Tuesday at night.

9:24 Lisa Edelstein Is it not this week though? Because right now it's the World Series, baseball, whole situation.

9:28 Drew Sure.

9:29 Lisa Edelstein So I have to wait till that's done.

9:30 Adam Sure, we got to play 700 games a year. The greatest thing that happened this weekend is that the Red Sox got eliminated. So I don't have to go through that at the office for another... That stretches out for months.

9:45 Drew You're going to get the Yankees instead though.

9:47 Adam Now, the Yankees don't work with enough of them, not quite as obnoxious as the Red Sox people.

9:54 Lisa Edelstein You agree?

9:55 Lisa Edelstein That the Yankees people are less obnoxious than the Red Sox. Well, yeah, the Red Sox people were desperate after all those years. And then it was a miracle, and then it was a whole thing. They brought God into the whole thing.

10:05 Adam The Yankees fans have a little been there, done that. Also greater in numbers, but not obnoxious, not abrasive.

10:16 Drew They're so used to winning.

10:17 Adam And they're just used to winning.

10:18 Drew By the way, did you notice the guys like Sheffield when you see them out in the field, they're skinny guys now?

10:22 Adam They're not. They're deflated. They're off the juice.

10:24 Lisa Edelstein Oh, really?

10:24 Drew It's striking.

10:25 Lisa Edelstein I haven't watched any games. That's really funny.

10:28 Drew It's striking how the guys have shrunk down.

10:30 Lisa Edelstein And are there less home runs?

10:32 Drew I don't know.

10:33 Adam I don't think that's definitive yet. We'll wait and see. Bonds seem to have hit a few dinners. Sierra?

10:40 Yes.

10:41 Adam You're 26?

10:42 Caller Yes.

10:43 Adam What's up?

10:44 Caller Well, me and my husband have been married for about eight years and we've been together for nine. About the last probably like five years, I've got a problem with sex drive, I guess.

10:57 Drew Do you have kids?

10:58 Caller I have three but only one lives at home.

11:01 Drew What? What's the matter?

11:05 Caller I don't know.

11:07 Lisa Edelstein Where are they living?

11:08 Adam Well, we're on to your kids now. Where are the two that don't live at home?

11:14 Caller Circumstances happened and I lost two of them.

11:17 Drew Are you a drug addict? Is that what happened?

11:19 Huh?

11:21 Adam Tsunami. I'm going tsunami. They floated away?

11:25 Drew Listen, we're trying to figure out why you have a particular biological problem. It may or may not have a psychological component to it. What happened?

11:32 Caller I got accused. I was accused of child abuse.

11:36 Drew To be accused on two children and to lose them, that's a little more than an accusation.

11:42 Caller I was accused of child abuse on one of them. While I was fighting to get him back, we got pregnant with the second one. Because the case was still on-going, they took him to jail.

11:55 Adam GIO Are you retarded? You're trying to wrestle one of your kids back from court and you get knocked up during that period of time?

12:02 Caller Well, it wasn't planned.

12:08 Adam GIO Okay, listen all you idiots. Would you stop populating the world with F'd up people so we can get on with our lives? I'm just tired of it. I'm tired that there's no connection between people like Sierra crapping out kids that get thrown through the system and us having to put alarms on everything and double bolt everything at night.

12:28 Lisa Edelstein So it's not exactly the happiest household at this point.

12:31 Adam Go with no.

12:33 Drew We would also predict that you probably had some abuse of your own growing up.

12:37 Caller Well, what had happened with my son, I had asked a family member to hold him while I went to the restroom. She dropped him. He ended up with a hairline fracture on his head and took him to the doctor. They found it. They called social services, a whole nine yards. He was about five months old. I got pregnant with my second child during this whole thing going on. I was probably pregnant when it happened and didn't know yet.

13:10 Right.

13:12 Adam We thought to hold on a second try. I know I've been wrong about this almost every time I just, you know, we're talking about it with Lisa earlier. I just, I just feel in my heart of hearts, Texas, two kids in the system court system abuse. Didn't know she was pregnant. Well, Sarah, Jewish, right?

13:31 Caller Jewish, you're Jew. You're Jew.

13:34 Caller What? No, no, no, I'm just dumbfounded, Drew. You know me, man. I'm spot on.

13:45 Adam I can pick up a cat like reflexes and instincts and I've been wrong 50 straight times, 50 times in a row, Drew. How do you know? Wow. Wow. And I thought you could stereotype, but I guess you can't. I guess you just can't. Wow. I was way off. Sorry. So now how did the other kid get into the system?

14:07 Caller The case was still open. It was still in court. So when he was born, when the second child was born, they took him straight from the hospital. He never came home.

14:19 Adam All right.

14:19 Caller So we wait, we waited about five years, got pregnant with number three. Oh my gosh. We have him.

14:27 Adam All right. And so one is, so they're both in foster care or?

14:30 Caller No, they were adopted by the same family. They're together.

14:33 Lisa Edelstein Okay, good.

14:34 Drew All right, that's good.

14:35 Lisa Edelstein And how old is the third one?

14:37 Caller He's one. He's my one.

14:38 Drew And by the way, if you, anyone listening wonders why when we ask about adoption histories and go, oh, you're over three months in and then you got to, this is the circumstance in which kids get adopted out of five months of age. All right.

14:49 Adam Well, that's good. No more kids, please.

14:52 Lisa Edelstein Are you breastfeeding the one-year-old?

14:54 Caller No, no, I couldn't. And after four months, my milk went bad.

14:58 Lisa Edelstein So that's not bad.

15:00 Caller It went bad.

15:01 Drew Sour.

15:01 Lisa Edelstein That's what my grandmother said. Yeah, pretty much. Your milk doesn't really go bad.

15:07 Drew I really feel like I'm talking to someone like back in time. I know.

15:10 Lisa Edelstein It's impossible for your milk to go bad. It's not like you haven't refrigerated it.

15:13 Caller Yeah, well, it just it's it's soured really bad. One day it looked like milk. The next day it looked like clear and it stank.

15:21 Adam Clear and clear is good, Sierra.

15:24 Drew Clear is good.

15:26 Caller After four months?

15:27 Lisa Edelstein Yeah, it changes its content. Like at the beginning it's giving one thing and then it gives another after.

15:32 Drew All right, well, forget it.

15:33 Lisa Edelstein Okay, that's too much.

15:34 Adam All right, Sierra, are you still with the same guy?

15:38 Caller Oh, yes. Yes, we've been married for eight years.

15:41 Adam All right.

15:42 Drew And are you on birth control pill?

15:43 Caller Oh, yes.

15:45 Drew What are you taking?

15:46 Caller Avcon.

15:48 Adam Nice.

15:50 Drew And birth control pill?

15:52 Lisa Edelstein Is that the injection?

15:54 Caller No, it's Avcon 35. It's a pill.

15:57 Drew Okay. And you've been on it for how long?

16:01 Caller I've been on this since the since baby number three was about a month old. I got put on it directly. I don't want anymore. I don't want any more kids.

16:11 Drew So the birth control pill can affect your sex drive up or down. All right.

16:15 Adam But did we establish whether you were sexually abused or anything like that?

16:20 Caller I was molested when I was younger.

16:22 Drew All right.

16:22 Adam Well, that's not a Jew. Let her answer.

16:25 Caller No, no, I was raised.

16:27 Drew How could that be?

16:28 Adam I'm always right, Drew.

16:31 Lisa Edelstein Maybe some of your issues are popping up at this point.

16:34 Drew Yes. To go from hypersexual to hyposexual is characteristic of having been sexually abused. So being shut down sexually in the face of chaos, in the face of abandonment and loss, all that would be anticipated.

16:46 Adam Yeah.

16:46 Drew So there you go.

16:47 Adam All right. And again, when kids get sexually abused and stuff like that, we don't want to keep an eye on them, give them a little education, give them a little help. Just give them a little help. I don't even crap out three kids and put two in the system.

16:59 Lisa Edelstein So what does she do?

17:02 Adam She got to get some therapy.

17:03 Drew She gets some mental health services. I mean, which I imagine she's been getting through social services. Yeah. The point is her libido should be the least of our concerns right now. There's so many bigger issues here. Yeah. And yes, the birth control pill, the more estrogenized pills can sometimes help with your libido. Sometimes a triphasic and some people they find more libido.

17:22 Adam Katie?

17:24 Drew But just read here, depression probably would help manage it too.

17:27 Adam Katie?

17:28 Hello?

17:29 Adam Hello?

17:32 I don't know.

17:33 Maybe it's depression. I don't know.

17:35 Adam All right.

17:36 Not necessarily depression. I just say two things before I say anything. Adam Carolla, you rock. I watched your show. I watched Loveline back in the day when it was on television. Dr. Drew, I respect your opinion like no other more so than my psychologist when I was younger, which says a lot.

17:58 Adam So what's up tonight? Thank you for the compliment. What's your question?

18:02 My question is, I live with my boyfriend right now in Huntington Beach, George County. And I don't know, I work in a bar where single men are a presbyter and you know, I go home every night.

18:23 Drew I don't know if I'm okay to say that.

18:26 I go home horny for men and sometimes I wonder if it's for him or wonder if it's for other people. I'm attracted to so many different men. I'm attracted to women. I'm attracted to one or two different women, you know, and it's very confusing right now.

18:46 Adam All right, look.

18:47 Lisa Edelstein How old is she?

18:48 Adam She's 21. Is your boyfriend treating you right?

18:51 Sometimes. He starts to drink and he can get mean or if I go home and I've been drinking.

18:57 Drew Katie's drinking a bit too though. Yeah, I see.

19:00 Adam Okay.

19:02 Drew You've got an alcoholic dad, right? Yeah. Yeah, this is all.

19:07 He's not drunk anymore. My dad is actually.

19:09 Drew I know, but now you are.

19:11 Adam He passed away.

19:12 Drew You've got the gene.

19:12 Adam He still has some alcohol in the system, technically. I know.

19:17 My dad was actually an alcohol and heroin addict and my mom actually just recently died of cancer and my boyfriend was a big participant in the recovery of a relationship that I didn't know.

19:31 Drew Here's the deal, Katie, all this chaos you've got in your relationships are going to continue until you deal with your own alcoholism. And I know people are going to say, you're jumping to that? Yes, that's the overarching situation here. And that all the acting out, all the chaos in your relationships, all the codependency and enmeshments and use of sexuality as a way of sort of regulating feelings, that's all the trauma of being in an alcoholic addict family and the gene of alcoholism. If you really want to get better, go to 12 Step Made and get a sponsor and start doing this.

19:59 Adam Are you good looking?

20:01 Well, honestly, I am not, yeah.

20:03 Caller You aren't?

20:05 Adam Well. Yeah, okay. Here's the thing, if you're screwed up and you're a female and you're hot, you are essentially a... A target. Well, you're a target, but you're also sort of dangerous to yourself. It's essentially like taking a guy who's violent and impulsive and whatever and saying, look, here's a gun, here's some protective clothing. No one can hurt you. You can hurt... And just sort of tell him, but don't use it in anger. Like take care of it. You know, like if you're hot and you're 21 and your dad was a junkie and people are after you sexually and you work at a bar telling, saying like, hey honey, just stay on the straight and narrow. It's temptation every single night.

20:50 Drew Like an obese person living in the Willy Wonka chocolate factory and saying, just take it easy. Take it easy. Right.

20:57 Adam And I don't know.

20:58 Lisa Edelstein The hard part is, is that it's really hard to get someone to actually stop that behavior until they've so bottomed out on it. That's correct. That, so even just telling her that is just...

21:05 Drew I is helpless.

21:06 Lisa Edelstein You're talking to air, but...

21:07 Drew You're absolutely right.

21:08 Lisa Edelstein But you heard it here. You heard it here first, folks.

21:10 Drew Well, other people may hear it.

21:11 Adam Well, maybe she should go to Al-Anon, too, if her dad was a junkie.

21:15 Drew I was thinking about that with her, and she's had a therapist, I think she said. And again, I'm just thinking of ways that she can help herself. And Al-Anon is a good idea, too. All right.

21:23 Adam Katie.

21:24 No, Adam, when I was 13, I went to Al-Anon for my father. When I was 15, I got sober for the first time for myself. And then when I was 17, I had relapsed when I was 16. I got sober the second time by myself. I moved out when I was 14, OK? I got sober for two years.

21:45 Adam Now I know she's hot because she's just blowing hard about getting sober.

21:49 Drew Yeah. It's a serious struggle. God bless her for trying.

21:53 Adam No, I was not. But not chicks don't mind talking.

21:55 Lisa Edelstein A lot of times all those all those ins and outs of the program are just you just kind of first, you might even be educating yourself on how to get high better. But ultimately, you're you're going to.

22:04 Not so much of anything. I've educated myself on not how to get high. I never took the needle. I never went back to what I went into the program for. But you're still using methamphetamine.

22:15 Drew But you're still using and it still hits the medial forebrain bundle, which is where the disease of autism and addiction takes place. And until you are completely sober, completely abstinent, active in a program with a sponsor, this is going to keep evolving. Things are going to start.

22:28 Adam So what about your guy? Tell me about your guy. Do you trust him? I don't trust him.

22:33 No, I do. He's and that's the thing is that he's not abusive. If he doesn't hit me, if anything, he is three years older than I am. He verbally abuses me probably once every three months.

22:47 Drew All right. I'm going to pretend you're not an alcoholic and you don't work in a bar. Katie, you're 21. People in their 20s for each other like crap. It's tough to have a monogamous relationship. This one is not likely to last. Go out, date. You're already saying you're going to do that. Don't get into any chaos with this guy because God knows what he'll do. Break it off and then start dating again.

23:06 Adam All right. That's a good enough place to break. Lisa Edelstein is here tonight from House Tuesday Nights, 9 o'clock, Drew's new favorite show, Dr. Lisa Cuddy.

23:16 Drew Dr. Cuddy, cardiac arrest.

23:18 Caller Stan, D5W lactate ringers. He sees it on me. Don't die on me.

23:24 Caller Damn you, Liv.

23:26 Caller Doctor, you understand, you can't play God anymore. But I hold myself responsible for every. We've got to get over it.

23:35 Adam There used to be a lot of people slapping. I missed a time when people would slap someone in the face, tell them to get hold of themselves. They do it to Nick. That's about the only time you could hit a chick too. She was getting out of control.

23:45 Caller Squat.

23:47 Adam By the way, does that work? I think if my wife was spinning out and I whacked her, she just turned whatever, she turned whatever aggression she was coming out with, just turn it on me. Right?

23:55 Drew She'd pick up a lap. Yeah.

23:57 Adam She'd throw something at me. She wouldn't thank me. Thank you for that.

24:01 Caller Thank you for that mile beating.

24:02 Adam Yeah, it's awesome. All right.

24:06 Caller Let's take ourselves a little break.

24:08 Adam We'll be right back after this.

24:10 Caller Thank you for calling Loveline.

24:11 Your call will be answered in the order it seems interesting.

24:18 Adam Want to dress up your sex life? Visit durex.com. There's sex and then there's Durex. Yeah, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Nats, Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Lisa Edelstein is here. Or do I go Stein?

24:46 Lisa Edelstein Stein.

24:47 Adam Better.

24:47 Lisa Edelstein Or Edelstein. I thought it was in German.

24:50 Adam She's a...

24:51 Laughing time is over.

24:54 Drew Look at her TV guest appearance list. It just goes on and on and on.

24:57 Adam Yeah, impressive body of work. Tuesday Nights. She is on a little show called House, Fox, Nine O'Clock, Drew's new favorite show. And doing nicely. Is this the second season or was it a replacement last season?

25:13 Lisa Edelstein No, we had a whole season last year and this is our second whole season.

25:18 Adam I'm all over the road on the seasons. I used to be able to figure them out and then I started getting burned because shows were replacement shows that I thought were running full season.

25:27 Lisa Edelstein Yeah, we started really late because they didn't start us at all till after baseball last year. So we started in November.

25:32 Adam Well, that's why I feel that way.

25:33 Drew Where do you film?

25:34 Lisa Edelstein At Fox. Yeah.

25:37 Adam Long hours?

25:39 Lisa Edelstein Sometimes it can be pretty long. For Hugh, it's the worst. For me, it's not so bad.

25:43 Adam Yeah, he's got to carry the weight, you know.

25:45 Lisa Edelstein Yeah, he's there all the time.

25:47 Adam Yeah, you got a good gig. Hang out, relax, wait till they call you.

25:51 Lisa Edelstein Trust, fun, child.

25:52 Adam Samantha?

25:53 Yes.

25:54 Adam 24?

25:55 Yes.

25:56 Adam What's up?

25:58 My boyfriend that won't maintain an erection during sex ever. We've been having sex for like three months. I mean, it comes back, but like it goes away and comes back, goes away and comes back.

26:11 Adam Well, you say you say won't instead of can't. It may just be semantics, but it sounds like you're blaming him a little too.

26:21 It's not, you know, honestly, he's the first guy that I've ever actually had an orgasm during sex with and I don't know if that makes a difference, but I mean, it's the best sex I've ever had.

26:34 Adam Well, hold on a sec. Is it?

26:38 Drew She missed, you missed your point.

26:39 Adam Okay. It's the best sex she's ever had though, everybody.

26:43 Drew Soft penis.

26:43 Adam Well, how bad was the guy who was before this guy?

26:47 He was pretty bad.

26:48 Adam Yeah, yeah. That's relative. What's up with you? All right. Smoke a lot of weed?

26:53 No, I don't smoke weed.

26:54 Adam Okay. So this guy's the best sex you've ever had except for he doesn't have an erection half the time.

27:00 Yeah.

27:01 Drew How long are you having sex for?

27:04 It varies sometimes for like 20, 25 minutes. One time we had sex for almost an hour.

27:10 Drew And how is it he's able to continue with a soft penis?

27:14 He just like kind of pinches it, I guess, and puts it back in.

27:18 Drew So he gets a good little condom?

27:20 He's already getting just a couple of minutes, like not even a minute really.

27:23 Drew Yeah, is he wearing a condom during this?

27:25 Yeah, no, no, no.

27:27 Drew No condom.

27:28 A couple of times that we have used a condom, it's come off inside me.

27:32 Adam Yeah, yeah, because he gets a little flaccid.

27:35 Drew And what, how often are you doing this?

27:38 We have sex at least once a day.

27:40 Drew So maybe he's having trouble keeping up the pace.

27:42 Adam Is he on any medication or anything?

27:46 No.

27:46 Drew Give him a five day break, see if that problem doesn't go away.

27:50 Okay.

27:52 Adam You're okay?

27:53 Lisa Edelstein Does he get upset when it happens?

27:57 Kind of, you can tell it is, like-

27:58 Lisa Edelstein Like do you accuse him of having his, him going soft the way you did when you started this conversation?

28:06 Do what now?

28:07 Drew He refuses to keep up being this hard?

28:09 Lisa Edelstein You accused him of not being hard.

28:12 Caller I don't want to try to talk to him.

28:16 Adam What? Okay, is he cool? Are you guys all right? You get along well?

28:20 Yeah. It's a really weird situation about us getting together because I was going to get married and broke off my engagement with him.

28:29 Adam Do you work with him?

28:31 No. I don't work.

28:33 Drew How did this, tell us Lamora, how did this happen?

28:35 Adam It doesn't work.

28:36 How did it happen that we got together? Yeah. Well, he was just a friend of some of my guy friends that I hang out with and all my guy friends always used to hit on me and stuff. But I was always like, I'm not leaving my boyfriend because we've been together for almost four years.

28:49 Drew And until I decided to leave him, right.

28:52 I met this guy and it was like instantaneous. And so I ended up living with him. He don't like Beyonce. So I broke up with him.

29:02 Drew What's this guy do for a living?

29:04 He's an electrician.

29:06 Adam And the part, though, where you sort of decide that if I dump this other person, we're going to be together, is sort of cheating. I mean, did you guys work it out? I mean, you're not going to cheat on your fiancee, but you just found another guy when you're engaged.

29:22 Lisa Edelstein So she was emotionally cheating.

29:23 Adam And decided and knew that this guy felt the same way about you when we're ready to. You knew you knew everything was in order. You had a new job lined up before you quit your old job. You didn't just fill out an application and hope that they hired you.

29:38 Yeah.

29:39 Adam Yeah.

29:39 That's exactly what my fiance said to you. Basically. Yeah. All right. We had a child together, so we still.

29:44 Drew Oh, oh, come on.

29:46 Yeah, I know.

29:47 Adam Awesome.

29:48 Drew All right.

29:49 Adam And you're taking care of the kid now. Hold on. Arkansas married. Get out of wedlock. Impulsively dumps the fiance to be with the electrician. You've got to be Jewish. Am I right?

30:03 Caller Please.

30:04 Oh, no.

30:05 Caller Oh, my God. 100.

30:10 Adam Lisa, I've drew instinctually. I'm very right on. Great insight.

30:15 Drew I can't believe this.

30:16 Adam Great instincts. Something weird, because how many times now?

30:20 Drew I can't count.

30:20 Adam 50 times. Never. Never once.

30:23 Drew Oh, which one?

30:25 Adam It's like the opposite. Wow. But here's the important thing. You cannot stereotype and you can't judge. It's impossible. Everyone is exactly the same case in point. Case in point, Samantha, has all the characteristics of a Jew. I think one would know. And yet, yet not Jewish. That's why that's how come I've learned you can never judge ever. It's impossible. There's no such thing as knowing anything about anybody before they do it. We're all different. Everyone is exactly true as a surgeon. When you open somebody up, you never know what you're going to find. Three lungs, no heart, five hearts and no lungs. We're all totally different. You'll never know. You can. That's why you can't judge.

31:08 Drew Can't. Can't profile.

31:09 Adam Same way dentist.

31:10 Caller Dentist looks at the tooth.

31:11 Adam He doesn't know. Doesn't know your teeth from Lisa's teeth or my teeth.

31:15 Drew They're all different.

31:16 Caller They're all different.

31:17 Adam All different. That's why we need it. We need a drill. We need a special drill bit for every person on the planet because we're all so different. We could just never, ever judge. All right, Samantha. So this sounds like a delightful situation. Could you not get pregnant by this guy, please?

31:34 Yeah, I'm working real hard on that.

31:36 Drew Good.

31:37 I don't have birth control. It's awesome. Let me tell you.

31:40 Adam Do you have, do you have shared custody of your child?

31:45 We have just been in agreement between the two of us. So he basically, he watches them at night, two nights a week. And then he, on his days off from work, he gets to spend that day with them. Oh, that's good.

32:00 Lisa Edelstein And your friends.

32:01 Yeah. When I have a couple of night classes, I actually have to take. So he watches in those two nights.

32:06 Adam All right. That's good. That's got to be comfortable when he comes and picks the kid up, the electrician shows up at the door. Yeah.

32:12 Especially when he's wearing his clothes. I'm just kidding.

32:15 Adam All right, baby. Have fun. See the kid in rehab. I just always hope it's a girl so we can get a stripper out of the equation. I mean, when it's a guy, we just get a violent criminal. Girl, hey. Just throw in the porn hopper. Awesome. Yeah. But the guy. But then but then they become breed breeders and hosts, you know, and they have more trouble. Yeah. Yeah.

32:37 Lisa Edelstein But great dancers.

32:38 Adam Awesome.

32:38 Lisa Edelstein Yeah.

32:40 Adam Awesome dancers. Now, now this is this is Maya, right? Yeah. All right. Maya.

32:47 Lisa Edelstein Hi.

32:48 Adam What's happening? Seventeen.

32:50 Lisa Edelstein Hi.

32:51 Adam Hi.

32:52 Lisa Edelstein OK. I'm bisexual and I've had a boyfriend for a long time. So I hooked up with his girl cousin and I got STD.

33:01 Adam You got STD by hooking up with a girl cousin.

33:03 Drew What did you get? What STD?

33:05 Adam Got to be Jewish.

33:06 Lisa Edelstein What? Yeah. I am Jewish.

33:08 Adam Are you?

33:09 Lisa Edelstein I am.

33:09 Adam Are you? Oh, thank God.

33:12 Lisa Edelstein Yeah, I know. Really? Seriously.

33:15 Adam Well, hold on. Hold on now. Now, did you did you have a bot mitzvah?

33:20 Lisa Edelstein Yeah.

33:21 Adam You did?

33:21 Lisa Edelstein I did.

33:22 Adam For those. This is Drew's favorite joke, by the way. For those of you who don't know what the bot mitzvah is, it's when the young Jewish girl becomes a man. Who are you guys kidding with that thing at a 13? You guys got to raise that to 28.

33:42 Lisa Edelstein Aren't your daughters, how old are they now?

33:44 Drew 13.

33:45 Lisa Edelstein Oh, great.

33:46 Adam It's not bot mitzvah time for them.

33:47 Caller That's true.

33:49 Adam Go ahead. All right.

33:51 Drew So wait a minute now. Hold on. You, what ST did you contract?

33:56 Lisa Edelstein I got gonorrhea.

33:57 Lisa Edelstein From the girl?

33:58 Lisa Edelstein Yeah. She had touched herself and then had touched me and it like got on in my vagina.

34:08 Lisa Edelstein Are you sure you didn't get it from your boyfriend?

34:09 Lisa Edelstein Yeah, because I don't know. Then I passed it on to him and he's telling me that he has gonorrhea and that he hasn't with anyone else and he's blaming it on me.

34:20 Drew How was this diagnosed with everybody?

34:22 Lisa Edelstein How was it diagnosed? Well, I went to the doctor and I went to the gynecologist and she wiped me with a cotton like thing and said that I had gonorrhea.

34:40 Adam Not right there.

34:41 Drew She said you have chlamydia or you have some sort of STD but she wouldn't use the word gonorrhea.

34:48 Lisa Edelstein Because she has to test it.

34:49 Drew Takes a while.

34:50 Adam Well, maybe it took a while.

34:51 Lisa Edelstein Maybe she's just expediting the story. Did she tell you that right away?

34:55 Lisa Edelstein No, she told me that.

34:57 Lisa Edelstein Right away?

34:58 Lisa Edelstein Well, she said I had some sort of STD.

35:00 Lisa Edelstein She said you had some sort of STD.

35:01 Drew Yes, you have STD, you don't have gonorrhea. It's very different.

35:04 Lisa Edelstein And then when did she say gonorrhea?

35:06 Lisa Edelstein Well, after like a while she had said that.

35:08 Drew All right. Okay.

35:09 Adam What's so different about STD and gonorrhea?

35:11 Drew The STD is like...

35:13 Lisa Edelstein Is nonspecific?

35:13 Drew Yeah, like pneumonia.

35:14 Adam No, I know that, but I mean, gonorrhea is an STD, right?

35:18 Drew People, when they use a specific disease state of specific bacterium like nyseria gonorrhea, that means somebody tested for it and grew it. And that takes a while. Usually what they do is they say, you've got an STD, I see evidence of it. You're gonna give it a shot.

35:32 Adam That's what she did.

35:32 Drew You're gonna give it a shot, maybe this pill, and that's that.

35:34 Adam She was just picking up the pace.

35:36 Lisa Edelstein I liked that. So did she tell you she had gonorrhea or did your boyfriend tell you?

35:39 Drew And by the way, gonorrhea you're not gonna get up by the touching of the finger all of a sudden. You can get the other ones, some other ones you can get that way, but you're not gonna get gonorrhea in your life.

35:46 Lisa Edelstein Isn't there gonorrhea of the mouth that goes around now? Like over the throat?

35:49 Drew Yeah, throat, yeah, it's cool.

35:49 Adam What were you doing screwing around with your female cousin?

35:52 Lisa Edelstein No, it was his cousin.

35:54 Drew Oh, even better.

35:56 Adam Your boyfriend's cousin?

35:57 Lisa Edelstein Yeah.

35:58 Adam Female cousin?

35:59 Lisa Edelstein Yeah.

35:59 Drew Do you have an eating disorder?

36:01 Lisa Edelstein No. I had one, but not anymore.

36:05 Caller All right.

36:06 Drew I get this is that whole thing.

36:08 Adam Okay. And boy, this is chaotic.

36:10 Drew Yeah, this is, this is, whoo.

36:12 Lisa Edelstein But I don't know if it's like I really got it from him or not. I don't know if he's being truthful about him.

36:17 Lisa Edelstein I don't think he's being truthful.

36:20 Drew We're just making a bigger assessment here, the chaos that you're in. What's going on with you? You've got what's called a personality disorder, at least at this stage of your life, and as part of that is an eating disorder. In the chaos, have you been to psychiatric hospitals before?

36:32 Lisa Edelstein What? No. I've not been in the psych ward, but I was in treatment for the eating disorder.

36:38 Drew Okay, so that you know is a chronic condition, and why aren't you still in treatment for that?

36:42 Lisa Edelstein Why aren't I? Because I'm recovering right now. I'm doing a lot better.

36:46 Adam She's licked it, Drew. The good ironic slogan, lick eating disorder. I like the generic, hey, once in a while I was driving behind a cop car on the way in the night, and it was just like, stop senior abuse. But that's it. That's all you guys come up with. Stop senior abuse. Is there some-

37:05 Lisa Edelstein A rather pathetic bumper sticker.

37:07 Adam Yeah, like no ass, Sherlock. But you guys can't do any better than that. How many of those bumper stickers have stopped senior abuse? You know what I mean? Right. You know, I was I was driving over.

37:19 Lisa Edelstein I was about to smack my grandmother.

37:21 Adam Driving over to my grandmother's house to kick the ass out of her. I got behind a street sweeper that had the end and senior abuse on it. It made me do some soul searching. I went home and beat the crap out of my kids instead. Yeah, we got to work on that in this city.

37:35 Drew All right.

37:36 Adam This is Maya.

37:37 Lisa Edelstein Yeah.

37:37 Drew So we're more worried about the chaos.

37:39 Adam More therapy now, baby. You're acting out.

37:41 Drew That part of all the sexual stuff is still symptomatic of the kinds of things that were associated with your eating disorder.

37:47 Lisa Edelstein So just be like honest with my therapist kind of thing.

37:50 Drew Oh, please, Maya, please. Yes, absolutely.

37:52 Adam And end senior abuse.

37:54 Drew And if you're not an honest with your therapist, you can't get anything accomplished.

37:59 Adam It'll be funny to have one in Mexico that said to end senior abuse. Like a sadite, sadite. I just realized we must have some sort of slush fund of extra money that we don't know what to do with. So we come up with stuff like saying no to drugs and all that kind of stuff. I also had that thing happen tonight, which drives me berserk. Is a highway patrolman doing 51 all the way, all the way on the 101, like people scared to pass. You know, here's the whole thing about. Listen, if there's that we have cops listening to the show.

38:31 Lisa Edelstein I like when they're going 75 and you can be on the move.

38:33 Adam Would you please do not do that, that that mental game where you're driving 53. And here's here's the thing about the freeways out here. They go from 55 to 65 back to 55 back this. I've lived here my entire life. I could not tell you the stretches that are 65 versus the ones that are 55. And so when the cop is doing 53, it freaks you out. You don't want to pass them. And here in LA and now in other cities, I hear it's not such a big deal. But here we're totally freaked out. Here's the thing about cop cars. They should be made to either go over 70 or under 30. There should be no intermediate zone where they can just do that 53 thing. And it's like, it's like, you know what they become? They become the pace car at the Indy 500. Just a whole stack of people. And then when they pull off an off ramp, it's like that's when the race begins. That's how it works. They become a pace car. People scared to pass.

39:26 Lisa Edelstein All right.

39:27 Adam Let's take a little break. Lisa Edelstein here tonight. She plays Dr. Lisa Cudi. Cutty?

39:32 Lisa Edelstein Cutty.

39:34 Adam Cudi is a good one though. Yeah. House, everyone. Tuesday nights, 9 o'clock. Fox, Drew's new favorite show. Take a quick break. Be right back after this.

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40:20 Adam Yeah, Lisa Edelstein here tonight. House, name her show, Tuesday Nights on Fox.

40:29 Drew It's hissy.

40:30 Adam Doing Nine O'Clock, doing quite well. 17 million viewers per week.

40:35 Lisa Edelstein Yeah.

40:36 Adam That is awesome.

40:37 Lisa Edelstein It's fun.

40:39 Adam I'm amazed. I think it's one of these blue state things, you know, like when you hear about biggest sport in the world, NASCAR, and you're like, what? And then it's like, yeah, Renee Zellweger spoke up with Kenny Chesney.

40:55 Caller Who's Kenny Chesney?

40:57 Adam Kenny Chesney? Biggest act in the world. You know, it's like, all right. I feel, I feel, I feel that way with, with cable TV or satellite TV. Like, like, you know, you know, if you were to ask me five years ago, oh, the networks aren't going to exist five years from now. It's going to be all, everyone's used to be watching The Sopranos on HBO or watching soft, softcore porn on stars or something. Like, what networks? Yeah, but, but now here comes, you know, Desperate Housewives and House and all the, you know, the CSIs and all this stuff. I mean, they've, they're all, it seemed like, oh, who's going to watch, who's going to watch this? Well, they're back or maybe they never went away, but they seem to have even gained some ground or something.

41:44 Lisa Edelstein It's going to get really interesting now with TiVo because the way things are going, the days of commercial television are going to come, it's all going to be product placement and be like, can I pass you this cup of Nescafe? It's really delicious and then move on with the scene.

41:58 Adam I don't know, I don't know how it works either. Like when you're HBO and you're going to do Troy or Rome, you're doing Rome, you know, and it's like, we took an entire town in Tuscany and leveled it to the ground and we built the sets the likes of which no one has ever seen. And it's like, why?

42:17 Drew What's the one view in?

42:19 Adam You just show Ski Patrol again, would you? That's like if I ran HBO, I'd be like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yes. I know I've seen sketches and budgets. No, we're not going to do any of that. You think it's going to get anyone to buy it? Just, just, we'll rerun something. What's that Troy? There's a movie that takes place in Rome. Show that again.

42:42 Drew Who's got MASH these days?

42:44 Adam Who's got that?

42:45 Lisa Edelstein Isn't Troy in Rome? Somewhere near there.

42:48 Adam Maybe Greece. But the point is, find a movie that people already like and just run it a second time. I couldn't imagine greenlining a mini-series, Gladiator, a mini-series that costs $100 million to make. I don't know how it works. Do more people buy, sign up for HBO hearing about this?

43:08 Lisa Edelstein They're paying for the, they're also buying the DVDs and renting the DVDs of the things that HBO makes. It's great, because HBO actually is incredibly creative and has amazing projects, really well written.

43:21 Adam It is great, but if I didn't need to attract advertisers, I would get very lazy, very lazy.

43:29 Lisa Edelstein Personally, were you running the network?

43:30 Adam Yes, yes I would. And like I said, I just assume, like I said, it's one of those blue state things where it's like, yeah, everyone you know has satellite, and they all just watch satellite television. No, no, no, no, no, no.

43:44 Lisa Edelstein Yeah.

43:45 Adam All right. Let's talk to, but like the American automakers were forced to do a few years back with all the Japanese coming in, you gotta step it up.

43:56 Drew Get it together.

43:57 Adam You gotta get it together. You can't just show, the Brady Bunch, not gonna cut it. Gilligan's Island, not gonna cut it. When people could switch over and go watch Curb Your Enthusiasm or The Sopranos.

44:09 Lisa Edelstein Or House.

44:10 Drew Or House. I'll tear you, Adam. The point is, no, that's too far about it.

44:15 Adam No, no, I'm saying, I'm using them as a network example, a non-paper example where that's what you have to step it up.

44:23 Lisa Edelstein Yeah.

44:24 Adam Absolutely.

44:24 Lisa Edelstein Network has definitely stepped it up these last few years because of that more competition.

44:29 Adam Yeah, you just have to do a better product. Scott?

44:32 Lisa Edelstein Yeah.

44:33 Adam You're 28?

44:34 Lisa Edelstein Oh, boy.

44:35 Adam Powerful stuff. What's happening?

44:38 I just got a question for Drew. Recently, doctors found some spots in my lungs on an x-ray.

44:46 Drew Yeah.

44:46 And I'm 28, never smoked in my life. I have a biopsy coming up a week from tomorrow.

44:52 Drew Where are they? Do you know where they are in the lung?

44:54 I do not know exactly where.

44:56 Drew Okay.

44:57 I don't think I'm the best doctor around, honestly.

45:00 Drew Are they on both sides?

45:01 No, just one side. There's like a couple of spots. Okay. They recently tested my blood for, I don't know the exact technical name, but the generic term I guess is like valley fever.

45:14 Drew Right. This could be, it's called coccidio mycosis. It could be that.

45:18 That's what it was.

45:19 Drew Right. It could be coxie. It could be TB. It could be even some called histoplasmosis. There's a lot of little things.

45:24 Adam How do they find it?

45:26 Drew How do they determine it?

45:27 Adam Well, he's 28. Was he having trouble breathing or something?

45:30 Drew Oh, why did you have the chest x-ray?

45:32 Actually, I was set up to have gastric bypass surgery.

45:36 Drew Oh.

45:37 And they were doing the pre-op work and they found it.

45:39 Adam I see.

45:40 Drew Isolated solitary pulmonary nodules usually don't end up being too much, especially at your age group. But interestingly, I just did a special tonight with Lance Armstrong where we were looking at his x-rays and he had, he was peppered with stuff all over his lung and that was ticicular cancer. That's different.

45:55 Lisa Edelstein It had metastasized into his lungs.

45:57 Drew Which was brain. He had to have neurosurgery. That was crazy.

46:00 Adam Scott, how much do you weigh?

46:03 Well, I've lost weight because I had to lose it for the surgery and right now I'm about 420.

46:08 Adam And what do you got to get down to before you do the surgery?

46:11 I've already lost what they wanted me to lose.

46:13 Drew How much?

46:14 I've lost 50.

46:16 Adam Wow. And how tall are you?

46:18 I'm 6'1.

46:19 Adam And here's what I would do.

46:21 Drew Proceed, keep going. You're on the right track. Yeah, it works. Smart.

46:24 Adam I'll tell you what I'd do if I was one of these gastric bypass surgeries. I'd be like, look, we're gonna need you to lose some weight before we can get you up on the gurney here and then like lose 60 pounds and come back and I'd go, all right, it's good. You're 350. We really need you to lose a couple more pounds before we do the procedure on you.

46:39 Drew Down to 40.

46:39 Adam Eventually I'd just get him down to about 175 and then tell him. And I would still do it. Yeah. You thought I was going a different direction with that, but no, I would still do it.

46:49 Drew There would actually be a rationale to that because people usually gain the back out of those circumstances.

46:53 Adam Right. Here's what I'm starting to think. We got to take a break. We're starting to think about with this surgery because I've had a friend or two do it. Just do it. Yeah. If I had a kid who was 350 pounds and he was 19 years old, let's say just do it. Don't be battling your whole life and doing damage to your heart and whatever pulmonary system.

47:11 Lisa Edelstein But you have to do it and be committed to it. I mean, I have one friend who did it very successfully and really means it and has worked very hard at kind of dealing with her eating disorder and I have another, I know another person who did it and didn't really feel like ever changing her diet.

47:25 Adam Well, they still lose, they still lose the weight though.

47:27 Lisa Edelstein But then they gain it back.

47:28 Adam No, they don't. Or we got to take a break. We'll, we'll argue when we come back.

47:36 Alright, guys, here's the deal.

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48:15 Adam Yeah, buddy, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, Lisa Edelstein here tonight.

48:20 Lisa Edelstein Hi.

48:21 Adam From House, Fox, Tuesday nights, nine o'clock. We're just talking about that big earthquake in, where was it?

48:28 Lisa Edelstein Pakistan.

48:29 Adam Pakistan and the destruction. But people people don't realize that the materials they use for building in other parts of the world are just like tailor-made, underhanded softballs for earthquakes.

48:46 Drew So every time you complain about the building inspectors, we should tell you to shut up because these guys are protecting us against.

48:52 Adam Well, we go, we go too far.

48:54 Lisa Edelstein We've got other issues.

48:55 Adam We go sick on this side. And my, here's my argument. My only argument is, is if you have a house that was built in the thirties or even in the twenties and you do an addition to the house, why does the addition need to be 2,000% stronger than the house? Couldn't it be twice as strong as the house? You understand? Yes. The house. And you know, the inspectors always do a thing where they're like, well, what if there was an earthquake?

49:22 Lisa Edelstein The house has been standing for a hundred years.

49:24 Adam The house has been unbolted, un-shear walled, no straps, no HDs, no nothing. For since the twenties, we've had three big ones and it's fine. So what if? You tell me what if. What if? There was someone living here when it, when the big ones hit, you know, 10 years ago and the big one hit 30 years ago, there's someone sitting in this house while sleeping because earthquakes don't work unless enough, enough people have to have their eyes closed in order for them to hit.

49:50 Lisa Edelstein Did you buy, did you buy your house thinking about the earthquake situation? I did. Like it's one floor.

49:56 Adam I used to do, I used to do earthquake rehab for a living. So I have no, I know exactly how houses react in earthquakes and what happens in earthquakes and what's good and what's bad. And no one has any problems, except for Dr. Drew's got poured in place slabs.

50:11 Lisa Edelstein Is that bad? Why?

50:13 Adam Let's just take some calls. Tess, family will be fine. Tess, no, look, here's what you don't want in an earthquake. Just masonry is not the friend of an earthquake. And certainly unreinforced masonry, which is what you have in all parts of the world. And every place that's close to third world, first thing you have is unreinforced masonry. That's the number one.

50:38 Lisa Edelstein You got a lot of mud brick buildings.

50:40 Drew Mud brick, it's masonry, right?

50:42 Adam Yeah.

50:43 Drew But it's just not rebar.

50:44 Adam No, cement falls apart. That's why all the freeway overpasses fall apart. And even that is reinforced masonry, but somebody, some genius figured out that they need to put a jacket around the stuff. So just didn't, you know, the pylons or the piers didn't just crumble.

50:59 Lisa Edelstein I hate being on the freeway here when you're under all those overpasses. It's just terrifying to me, especially when you're stuck in traffic underneath them.

51:07 Adam Well, the thing is, and we won't go, we won't go too far off on the building and engineering. But here's the thing. The freeways are essentially fine. It's all of the piers that were holding up the freeways were concrete piers that had rebar inside of them. But the outside would crack and crumble and the things would fall down and then there was trouble. So they started wrapping them with steel so that the thing could not fall apart.

51:35 Lisa Edelstein After the one we had in the 90s.

51:37 Adam Yeah. Yeah.

51:38 Lisa Edelstein Like when the 10 fell.

51:40 Adam After San Francisco when the double-decker freeway collapsed on a beat. I don't know.

51:45 Lisa Edelstein That's horrifying.

51:45 Adam Yeah, it was. And I don't know why someone didn't figure this out earlier, that if you took a cement post and you put steel in it, it would still just compress and crack and fall apart, essentially. All right. But now they're ramping them with the steel and it's all going to be fun. So these parts of the world that come undone with these big earthquakes, you know, if we have a 7.6 in Los Angeles, eight people die, they have 20,000 people die. Yeah. Tess?

52:13 Hello?

52:14 Adam You're 22?

52:16 Caller Yeah. Hi, Adam. I just want to say that we love you in Pittsburgh.

52:20 Adam Thank you. Drew and I love Pittsburgh.

52:22 Drew We love Pittsburgh. I was just there a week ago.

52:25 Caller Right. We listened to you when you were here too.

52:28 Adam Thanks. What's up, Tess?

52:31 Caller I have a problem when I'm masturbating or after I'm masturbating. My leg, my calf muscle, it used to be just a charlie horse, but over the years it's grown into a full-out spasm.

52:45 Adam Yeah. Got those.

52:46 Caller It lasts like three minutes after and it kind of-

52:50 Drew Adam gets those.

52:51 Adam Again, I start putting a warm-up cycle in my bathroom. Like they have on the sidelines of the NFL games, receiver will just be pedaling on, just staying warm, just getting the juices flowing. If you got to get in the game, you don't want to go in cold.

53:05 Lisa Edelstein But is it just when you're masturbating or is it when you have sex also? No. Not when you have sex.

53:09 Drew You talk to Adam or Tess?

53:11 Lisa Edelstein Either.

53:11 Adam I don't ride the bike before sex. Is that what you're asking?

53:15 Drew He gets spasms in his chest when he does the pose down in front of the mirror afterwards though. I think spasms all of a sudden.

53:20 Caller Yeah. Somebody had told me to eat bananas.

53:24 Drew Potassium is good, but some of this is hyperventilating. You want to watch your breathing while you're doing it. The other thing is just tensing your muscles up. If you breathe and relax, this is less likely to happen.

53:34 Adam Hold on. Tess. What's your ethnicity?

53:39 Drew I'm black.

53:40 Adam You're black? I'm just saying, whoever said eat the bananas line, that could have been, you know, the white guy, if a white guy said that, that could have been a very dangerous statement. I know their heart was in the right place, but you know what I'm saying, Drew?

53:53 Caller It's very, very volatile.

53:56 Adam I'm just saying, if a white guy said that, he'd have to have huevos the size of Pittsburgh. So yeah, here's the thing, don't point your toes when you masturbate. That'll cramp, that'll...

54:07 Drew What? That's what I do.

54:09 Adam I know, that'll cramp you up.

54:10 Drew Stop doing that. Try not to do that. Try to relax the leg muscles. And you can, really, the muscles that need to contract, use the adductor muscles, the muscles that pull your legs together.

54:19 Adam Try to see if you can squeeze one off with your knees bent. What? Can you do it with your knees bent?

54:26 Drew How dare you? It's bizarre.

54:30 Adam If you're locking your legs out, you'll get the calf cramp.

54:33 Drew Yes. Bend your knees. Don't point your toes. Breathe. Don't hold your breath. Don't hyperventilate. And don't bear down. Do all that.

54:42 Lisa Edelstein That's a lot to think about.

54:43 Drew And then good luck having the organs.

54:45 Adam You're on your back, right?

54:47 Drew Right.

54:48 Caller Right on the back. And that person was just like the little charlie horse. But now it's like, right.

54:52 Adam Don't lock them out. Don't lock your legs out. That's true. What happens when you lock? Thanks for calling Tess. What happens when you lock your legs out?

54:59 Drew You put your muscle into isotonic spasm. You're just constantly contracting until they spontaneously start to tear.

55:07 Adam Is that what happens?

55:08 Drew Yeah.

55:09 Adam Is that what that pain is? I have gotten a calf cramp. Usually when I'm going for the hat trick.

55:15 Lisa Edelstein The hat trick.

55:16 Drew Third time?

55:17 Adam Yeah. Going for three.

55:19 Drew Lisa seems very intrigued by your use of language around the behavior of masturbation. She seems very interested in that.

55:27 Adam The hat trick, yeah.

55:27 Drew The hat trick, the squeeze one off. She liked that one too.

55:31 Lisa Edelstein Bear down. Don't bear down. That was yours.

55:33 Drew That was me. Yeah. Adam's an expert in this.

55:35 Adam I don't go for the tri-fi anymore.

55:38 Drew No.

55:39 Lisa Edelstein Well, I was just wondering what was her technique? Because if she's, maybe if she's using, if she uses a tool, like a vibrator or something, it might be easier for her to achieve without tensing because she doesn't have to do any physical work.

55:53 Adam Lisa speaks from experience.

55:55 Lisa Edelstein No, I don't know anything about it.

55:58 Caller I bet I could find one on you.

55:59 Lisa Edelstein I know nothing about this. Anyway.

56:01 Adam If I shook you now, one would fall out of you somewhere.

56:03 Caller A tool.

56:04 Adam Tess, do you have a toy, Tess?

56:08 Caller No, it's just me.

56:09 Caller Yeah.

56:11 Lisa Edelstein See, a toy might be worth trying.

56:12 Adam Why don't you try getting a toy?

56:14 Drew Might hasten things.

56:14 Caller I'm afraid of them. I think if I use a toy, I will never go back to the real thing.

56:20 Lisa Edelstein Just once in a while. But you're right, actually, they can have a detrimental effect.

56:24 Adam No, I agree. It's really, it's like someone putting a beer tap in their house and say, no, I'll just have a sipper tap.

56:30 Drew I was thinking about this. It's interesting how humans, even within normal spectrum behaviors, get momentum with stuff.

56:36 Adam Right.

56:36 Drew You know what I mean? There's a lot of, I think we've made fun of over the, at least the last 20, 30 years, people trying to maintain abstinence and abstinence and stuff like, well, it's a big deal. It's a free country. Relax. But you start, you get going. You know what I mean? Yeah.

56:51 Adam And I think a really important part of life is sort of knowing what you might fall prey to and not bringing it into your environment before you have a problem.

57:06 Drew But some of it is really avoiding some of the things. I mean, the church kind of had a right on some of these things.

57:11 Adam That's what I mean. I mean, I feel like if I, you know, if I go out and buy a box of sugary cereal, I'll demolish it that day. I won't be able to just have a bowl every other week for the next month and a half. So I just don't buy it. Just don't bring it into the house.

57:28 Lisa Edelstein I buy chocolate in small bite size pieces. Or else I'm in trouble.

57:32 Adam Then eat 300 of them and cry.

57:33 Lisa Edelstein No, I only buy one at a time.

57:36 Adam The point is, like I said, if I put a keg in my house, it starts off with a couple of glasses at night, but eventually it'll be in for breakfast and over the cereal and I'll be eating. It should be on everything. Fruit salad, put a little beer on there. But Tess is right. Tess feels like, look, I get this vibrator.

58:00 Lisa Edelstein I don't know if she's going to go that crazy. Maybe she'll go for that maybe for a week and it'll get boring. I mean, it's not that interesting.

58:09 Adam Some people are able to do, we're just interpreting what you say. Here's what I'm saying.

58:16 Lisa Edelstein A vibrator is not that interesting.

58:18 Adam Tess's vibrator may be to you what chocolate is.

58:22 Lisa Edelstein That's true.

58:23 Adam You know what I mean? And you're asking her to bring a big block into the house and she's into it and there's other people who don't have a sweet tooth.

58:29 Drew I put it this way. She masturbates every day until her leg rips apart. It doesn't stop her.

58:35 Adam Right.

58:35 Drew So you put a weapon in her hand and watch out.

58:39 Adam Jenna?

58:40 Caller Yes?

58:41 Adam 21?

58:42 Caller Yeah.

58:43 Adam What's up?

58:44 Caller Okay. I kind of have this weird thing going on right now. I actually I haven't had sexual intercourse in coming up on TV in three years nor engaged in any sexual activities. Besides, you know, like the miniature making out sessions here and there when I'm pink at the club or something.

59:06 Drew When you're what at the club?

59:08 Caller Drunk.

59:09 Adam Drunk at the club.

59:10 Drew All right. Miniature making out sessions. Yeah.

59:13 Caller And that happens like almost never.

59:16 Drew Okay. What's your question?

59:17 Caller I'm 21 years old. I don't think it's probably the most healthy thing. I feel like the longer I go without any physical contact with male or sexual activity, the more I don't want it or desire it or any.

59:34 Adam Were you hypersexual at some point?

59:36 Caller No. See, that's the weird thing. You know, I dated a guy while we were together for about two years. And then we had a pretty normal sex life or whatever. We broke up. And then I had kind of like a one night stand with a guy, like right after we broke up. And that was years ago. And then I just shut down.

59:56 Adam Did you feel dirty or something when you did that?

59:59 Caller No, I didn't feel dirty. I don't, I don't know. Like I just, you know, put it on the back burner and then totally completely took it off the stove.

1:00:10 Adam Well, are you depressed?

1:00:12 Caller Am I what?

1:00:13 Drew Depressed.

1:00:15 Caller Depressed? Yeah, I go on and off. Like, I mean, not extremely, but you know, I.

1:00:20 Adam All right, hold on, let's talk about it. This sounds like someone is depressed.

1:00:23 Drew She's definitely depressed, but it also sounds like there's a lot more going on in her life that she doesn't hook into what this is. You know what I mean? Something else going on. And this is sort of the symptom. Janet, what's going on with your family of origin? Are they still together? Is everything going OK?

1:00:39 Caller My parents aren't together. I pretty much grew up with my mom. She had a substance abuse problem. She kind of, I saw a lot of abusive relationships that she was in.

1:00:50 Adam All right.

1:00:50 Drew Well, there you go.

1:00:51 Adam It's coming together.

1:00:52 Drew And did you hear her boyfriends do anything weird to you?

1:00:55 Caller No, not really. I was never molested or anything like that.

1:01:00 Drew But it's enough to A, be enough to just have an abandoning father that you never had a relationship with. B, all the other male figures you dealt with bring, come in and create chaos and are abusive. So it makes sense that you shut down.

1:01:12 Lisa Edelstein Intimacy issues.

1:01:13 Drew Yeah, intimacy issues. It makes sense to be typical for you.

1:01:15 Adam How about some therapy, baby doll?

1:01:18 Caller Yeah, you know, I haven't gone to a therapist or anything. But I just don't think that, like, if I keep, you know.

1:01:27 Adam All right, go to shrink.

1:01:29 Drew Yeah, yeah. What you think doesn't matter, unfortunately. We're telling you that, really, it frustrates me. And people go, well, I've got to be, your opinion is great that you have an opinion, but you're asking experts for direction who have, you know, hundreds or thousands of cases like this. You follow their direction. Your experience is everything. Your experience is extremely valid, extremely important. But your opinion about it, you're 21 or whatever, 22. You've not studied this stuff. You're not positioned to have an opinion about it. You should be following directions.

1:02:00 Adam That's part of the problem of today's society, is everyone's decided their title to opinion and an expert about it. Well, you know what it is? Let me tell you. I know Drew is angry.

1:02:08 Lisa Edelstein Everyone feels like they're an expert when they're 22 years old.

1:02:10 Adam Here's the thing. No, here, yes. Here's, no, you don't think you're an expert at building. You don't think you're an expert at computers.

1:02:16 Drew Right.

1:02:17 Adam Here's the thing.

1:02:17 Lisa Edelstein You think you figured it out.

1:02:18 Adam You think you figured out the human part of it. Here's the line of Ace. We've rammed up everyone's arse over the last 10 years, which is nobody knows you like you. Nobody, only you know you. Nobody can really know you like yourself. You gotta look inside, but ultimately nobody knows. What the F does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. Of course. And again, if you apply any of this stuff to carpenter stuff, no, just, what do you mean? You know, you know your own pulmonary system better than anyone else would know your own pulmonary system. That's why you should do work on yourself with a mirror.

1:02:54 Drew Yeah, right.

1:02:55 Adam Of course not. You don't do anything on yourself. You don't know your teeth. You don't know anything.

1:02:59 Drew And now with that, if as a physician knowing something, the last thing you do is work on yourself. Last thing.

1:03:06 Adam Yeah, but no one knows you like you. And here's the problem. Here's the line of BS that got rammed up by so the last 15, 20 years. Nobody knows you like you and there's only one of you. Cause that's how you would know. That's how come you're an expert on yourself. Yeah. So now poor Drew, no one will listen to him.

1:03:23 Drew Well, I had a thing where I was-

1:03:24 Adam Don't talk. No, see I'm a carpenter. So people have to listen to me because they don't, they don't know what I know. And they can't think they know what I know. And if they do, I'll start throwing around some stuff and they'll get screwed up and that'll be the end of that. Everyone listen to me. But Drew, they, they think they know. Now they don't think they know the medical side, but they think they know the emotional side.

1:03:46 Drew That way for sure.

1:03:47 Adam That don't talk. Okay, go ahead.

1:03:50 Drew I was just, I was dealing with producing a TV segment and I had a particular approach, a particular problem, and I brought some subjects in. I was going to have them tell their experience as a way of showing or about revealing the specifics about the situation I was trying to document. You know, listen to these people's stories and I'll interpret for you what that means. And one of the producers goes, well, this woman disagrees with you completely. I'm like, it doesn't matter. She's a subject.

1:04:16 Adam She's entitled to her opinion.

1:04:17 Drew Her opinion is not what she's hit for.

1:04:18 Caller She's just as valid as yours.

1:04:19 Drew She's completely, she's 19. Just her opinion. I don't wanna make her feel depressed.

1:04:24 Adam She's got two semesters at junior college under her belt. Come on.

1:04:28 Drew Just experience. Experience means everything.

1:04:30 Adam The third part of it, no one knows you like you. The second part is there's only one of you. And then the third is, is everyone's opinion is valid. And just as important as the next person because we're all human beings.

1:04:40 Drew And that's what screws people up. So they're busily intellectualizing things that they have no training, no business thinking about. And missing their experience.

1:04:47 Lisa Edelstein They have no perspective on it.

1:04:48 Drew But they miss focusing on their experience, which is everything. That's what they have.

1:04:52 Lisa Edelstein They're in their experience. So they can't, they cannot get perspective on it from the outside, especially at that age, because they don't have enough experience to look back upon and say, oh, I felt that way that time. And that really turned to hell. To hell. Right. So yeah.

1:05:09 Adam Look, there's just the point is, is there's more stupid people than there are smart people. So start listening to Dr. Drew. Would you please, David?

1:05:18 Yes.

1:05:19 Adam 22.

1:05:20 Yes, sir.

1:05:21 Adam What's up?

1:05:22 Well, I love the show, first of all.

1:05:23 Adam Thanks.

1:05:25 Thanks. And I just recently discovered that my parents are swingers.

1:05:33 Lisa Edelstein How did you find out?

1:05:36 That's the terrible part. They went away when they had their friends.

1:05:40 Adam The rust-colored shag in the living room wasn't a tip off when you were a kid?

1:05:44 No, not quite.

1:05:45 Adam Swing and harping.

1:05:47 Lisa Edelstein What happened?

1:05:48 I had to borrow my dad's camera after the weekend that their friends were down. So I took my photos and I was transferring them over to the computer.

1:05:58 Lisa Edelstein Oh.

1:05:58 And I went through my photos and I got to his and it was all four of them in their bed. Oh. So that was a couple of weeks ago and I haven't said anything to him yet.

1:06:09 Lisa Edelstein That hurts.

1:06:10 Adam Did you see mom naked?

1:06:14 It was bad, Adam.

1:06:16 Adam Yeah, I can imagine.

1:06:18 I mean, I don't know how graphic I can get on the show, but you know, it was all there.

1:06:22 Drew And it was them mixing it up with one another?

1:06:26 It was my parents and one other couple, man and woman, that they've actually known and had down to the house, you know, for the past year and a half. And I've always had this like sneaking suspicion, and my friends too, that, you know, there was something a little bit more because my dad would be on the phone with, you know, the female portion of this couple for hours, you know, in a dark room. And I would walk in and he would get all jumpy about it.

1:06:54 Adam So was your dad with the male portion?

1:06:58 Not in the pictures that I saw.

1:07:00 Adam All right, that's a, hold on a sec. Well, that's good.

1:07:03 Drew I'm on the fence.

1:07:04 Adam I'm on the fence. It feels a little bogus on the other hand, all right, pictures, but you know, see old people, the dork still works, but you can't work the technology. You know what I mean?

1:07:17 Drew Yeah.

1:07:18 Adam Is that old people are gonna screw up with the cameras and the chips and the computers and all that stuff.

1:07:22 Lisa Edelstein Because of all four of them, there had to be like, then you've got the tripod and there's a lot of setting up involved.

1:07:29 Adam Let me tell you something with that timer, that picture timer thing. It's probably a good 30 seconds, but people treat it like it's three and a half seconds. They always hit the timer thing and they run, and then they dive into the group, and then the group gets all, and then you stand there and it's like, what's happened? Then about the time the guy figures out the thing's not working, he takes a step toward it and then you see the flash.

1:07:50 Lisa Edelstein It's true.

1:07:51 Adam Someone ought to really explain to people what 30 seconds really is. Guy, a guy on a good run can cover 200 yards in 30 seconds. You can cover the six feet in the living room. You don't have to dive, you don't have to do the shoulder roll. How cruel the person who invented the camera says, well, we can put a timer on it. Let's give them two seconds. They give me a while. I'm just saying, I'd like people to work that out. That's all I'm saying. All right, where the hell? We're telling David, yeah. So David, I believe you because your information is specific.

1:08:25 Well, and to be more specific, it wasn't all four of them in the shot. It was two or three at a time. So, I never saw my dad and the other guy in the same.

1:08:35 Drew All right, so here's the deal. Maybe you shouldn't get into this with them at all. You're 22.

1:08:42 Caller What?

1:08:43 I was gonna say, you know, I love my parents and we have a really good relationship right now. And, you know, I'm on the verge of moving out at this point.

1:08:51 Adam Oh, yeah. Expedite. Get out of there.

1:08:53 Drew Yeah.

1:08:54 Lisa Edelstein You're 22. It's time.

1:08:56 Drew Expedite the move out. Don't take on any of these habits. I worry about your parents' relationship. If the relationships start to fall apart, maybe you could then be helpful to them by asking them to get a professional involved because these behaviors usually lead to trouble.

1:09:10 Adam What's your dad do?

1:09:11 Lisa Edelstein Maybe it's been going on for a long time.

1:09:13 Drew I know, but it probably has, well, a year and a half, he said.

1:09:16 Lisa Edelstein Maybe there were other couples before that.

1:09:18 Drew It leads to trouble though, isn't it?

1:09:19 Lisa Edelstein Of course.

1:09:20 And I don't even know that.

1:09:21 Adam What's your dad do?

1:09:23 My dad's a lawyer. My mom works for him. But this is the first couple I've ever really seen them interact this way with.

1:09:30 Adam All right. But David, what are you doing that you're 22 and you're still living at home?

1:09:34 I'm a full time student, part time job.

1:09:37 Lisa Edelstein All right.

1:09:37 Adam Well, it's time to go a little more a little more full time at the work, a little part time with the student.

1:09:41 Drew Expedite.

1:09:41 Adam Just get out of there. 22.

1:09:43 Lisa Edelstein It'll make a huge difference in your life.

1:09:45 Drew Do you have brothers and sisters? Just out of curiosity.

1:09:47 Caller Yeah, just got out.

1:09:48 Drew Do you have brothers and sisters?

1:09:50 I'm sorry?

1:09:51 Drew Do you have brothers and sisters?

1:09:52 I have one younger brother who's away at college. He just moved out.

1:09:56 Drew All right, don't bring him out of this.

1:09:58 Adam No, don't bring him.

1:09:58 Drew He's like 24, bring him up.

1:10:00 Adam Don't bring anyone into any.

1:10:01 Caller No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1:10:03 Drew What would the point be if you.

1:10:04 Lisa Edelstein You might never want to know.

1:10:05 Drew What would you accomplish by discussing this with your parents are going to be defensive.

1:10:08 Adam I don't know that he was calling to ask, you know, what to do with the parents. I think they just want to talk like, you know, my feeling. Should I feel this way? You should feel weirded out. You should also get over it. You should also not think it can work in your life, but you should get the F out of Dodge.

1:10:25 Drew Agreed. There we go.

1:10:26 Adam Everybody. Here's the thing.

1:10:28 Lisa Edelstein Everybody's sexual. So that's there's no surprise there.

1:10:31 Adam The longer, the longer.

1:10:33 Lisa Edelstein Well, really?

1:10:35 Adam No. I mean, yeah. The longer you spend in your house as an adult or as a sort of right thinking adult, the more s you're going to find out that's going to disappoint you. Like here's the deal. Somewhere around, I don't know, 12 or something, you start really, you start getting the ability to sort of form thoughts and really understand that your parents, even though they're your parents, have their foibles and their shortcomings and are human beings. There's a certain point, I don't know when it is, 11, 12.

1:11:04 Drew 15, 15 is when it really comes in focus.

1:11:07 Adam Yeah, okay. But there's plenty of 13 year olds out there now who understand that dad is maybe not the greatest dad in the world or whatever. Okay, now it's game on. Now you better hope you don't stumble on his stash of weird, you know, gimp porn or whatever. You're going to hear something, you're going to see something. Now, the longer you hang out with your adult brain where you can process information, the more disappointed, the more likely you're going to find something or be disappointed. That's when you get out at 18. And, you know, I'd go through my house, like that movie Tommy, I put a ball in my mouth, I put a shade on my eyes, I put stuff in my ears, and I just have to feel my way through the house.

1:11:47 Drew And man, the stuff you'd find. All right, let's go to break.

1:11:50 Adam Okay, we'll take a quick break. Be right back after this.

1:12:17 Caller Yeah, it's love line.

1:12:18 Adam I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Lisa Edelstein here tonight.

1:12:25 Drew My new favorite show, House, Tuesday night, nine o'clock. After which you can watch TLC and pick up Adam's show.

1:12:31 Adam Oh yeah, Tuesday nights, yeah, 10 o'clock. TLC, everybody.

1:12:34 Lisa Edelstein Perfect timing.

1:12:35 Adam Yeah, House, hour long show. Watch that on Fox, and you switch over, and you get to watch me build a house. All right, where are we, Drew? All right, Cynthia.

1:12:47 Yes.

1:12:48 Adam 25?

1:12:49 Yes.

1:12:50 Adam What's up?

1:12:51 I had a question. I recently found out that I'm pregnant. I found out about six weeks or so, and I was taking Depaco, and a fixer, and I'm also a meth user.

1:13:03 Drew None of those things are good, right?

1:13:04 Right. This is also my sixth pregnancy. I had five abortions before this.

1:13:10 Drew Goodness sakes. Good.

1:13:12 Lisa Edelstein No birth control in your life?

1:13:14 I was taking the morning after pill. My boyfriend and I were pretty much exes, and so we weren't having sex that often, and when we did, I used the morning after pill, and it took me just as much by surprise and found out I was pregnant, and you didn't take it very well.

1:13:30 Lisa Edelstein You were just using it every time you had sex, the morning after pill? That's so intense.

1:13:33 Yeah, it was like two times, three times, that was it.

1:13:40 Adam Are you counting that as an abortion?

1:13:43 No, I had five actual abortion prior.

1:13:47 Drew But Cindy, are you counting using the morning after pill? It's not birth control.

1:13:51 Yeah, I didn't see any reason to get on actual birth control again because it was so infrequent, and all we do is fight, really.

1:13:58 Drew Yeah, but morning after pill is not birth control.

1:14:01 Adam She understands that sort of.

1:14:03 Drew The birth control pill is 99.97% effective. The morning after pill, in the best of circumstances, is about 85%.

1:14:09 Adam But you had five medical procedure abortions.

1:14:13 Yes, I did. And the last one, I hemorrhaged, and I didn't think that I could even get pregnant, but still I took precaution and took morning after pill when it happened.

1:14:21 Lisa Edelstein How much math do you do?

1:14:24 Daily, every day.

1:14:26 Adam If I had an abortion clinic, I would just treat it like a sub shop or I'd give you the six one free. That's my thing, like let me see the stamp. Yeah, let me punch that, sweetie. Let me see the car card. You don't have it on you. Well, I'm just saying any good business, let's face it, gentlemen, it's a business. Do not kid yourselves. I would be lying to you if I said abortion wasn't a business. It's all whatever kind of business you have, you got to make money. I mean, you got to keep the, you know, you got to keep the electricity on. It works, you know, for Starbucks, for abortion places.

1:14:59 Drew So Cynthia, the effects are not good during pregnancy. The math is obviously not good during pregnancy. So what are we going to do here?

1:15:08 I don't know. Everything so far is looking for me and not have it based on that. Plus the father is saying that if I do have it, that I'd be on my own. And he threw me out the car when he found out that I was pregnant. And in that situation, it's very bad.

1:15:21 Drew All right.

1:15:23 Adam I can feel an F bomb or an S bomb coming out. So speak slowly, baby.

1:15:29 Drew Don't use the F word or the S word.

1:15:30 Adam Yes. You know, they say measure twice, cut once. What I'd like all our our listeners to do is think twice, speak once.

1:15:38 Caller I think she already did, actually.

1:15:40 Adam Now, I don't think she dropped the F or the S. It just sounded like it was coming. Okay.

1:15:45 Drew But, Cindy, here's the deal. Deal with this pregnancy as you please. Give it up for adoption. If you see it through, there'll be a wonderful gift to that child.

1:15:54 Lisa Edelstein But is it a viable pregnancy at this time?

1:15:56 Drew You don't know. It could be. It could be. And it's also reasonably good abortion, given the fact this could be a damaged biological situation. And get the hell out of that relationship. And if you need, if you're stuck in the cycle of abuse, get some battered women's help. Yeah, there's organizations that help specifically.

1:16:11 Lisa Edelstein So it comes with the territory of meth. I mean, there's, yeah, so it comes with that.

1:16:16 Adam And then all this stuff like he threw me out of the car while it was moving. And I know everyone just does that, but it's also, this guy's an idiot. I'm sure it didn't exactly go down the way you're saying it.

1:16:28 Lisa Edelstein They're both in the relationship too. So she's getting something out of that relationship.

1:16:31 Adam Of course, because her dad was abusive and now she gets to relive it. And then everything's abuse, because he didn't push you out of the car while it was moving. You were fighting with him and he pushed you out of the car while it was rolling or whatever. But that's how it goes down. It's like, look, once you get abused and you get abused enough, then everything is rape. Everything is physical abuse. Everything is everything.

1:16:54 Drew And you don't have any you don't have any role to play.

1:16:56 Lisa Edelstein Right. You don't have you don't have any responsibility in it.

1:16:59 Adam Right. Yeah. You hear these stories. That's how you know people are victimized. You hear these stories like, well, we're just driving down the street and all of a sudden he flings the door open and pushes me out. Yeah. Just just driving down the street. That's just driving. Yeah. Yeah. You're trying to cause corny sound with your fingernails. That's when he pushed you out. Now, he's an idiot. Don't get me wrong. Yeah. He's an abuser. Don't get me wrong. You don't realize you have to dance with all these people. It's all these people's stories like, you know, when you hear that stuff, it's like, here's how it goes. Teacher gave me an F because they hate me, man.

1:17:30 Caller I showed I was a good guy.

1:17:32 Adam That leads to best employee. Boss hates me. And I always like this one, too. And I always say to him, too, really, you did the work of three people and yet the guy fired you. Why do you think that is?

1:17:46 Caller He's jealous.

1:17:47 Lisa Edelstein Yeah, he's threatened.

1:17:49 Adam Yeah, believe me, I've employed plenty of people. I'm rarely jealous of the ones that excel. I actually, my thing is like, I want to graft some of your skin onto these lazy SOBs over here and see if I can grow a decent employee. I'm not jealous of you. By the way, when did we start tossing this jealousy thing out like it was an actual viable answer for everything?

1:18:12 Drew I think you've got some employees going now where stuff like this is going to...

1:18:15 Caller This person just tells you that because they're jealous, man.

1:18:18 Adam Because maybe you really are a bad employee. Maybe you do actually, or whatever they're saying. Go ahead and listen. And if you've been fired for multiple jobs, assume not everyone's jealous of you.

1:18:30 Drew By the way, there's also a price to be paid for working around people. Sometimes when someone is so aggressive or obnoxious or just painful to be around, people will let a good employee go. Either because they perceive a liability, like this is someone who eventually is going to do something scary.

1:18:46 Adam Yes.

1:18:47 Drew Or it's just life is too short. This guy's pissing me off all the time.

1:18:51 Adam Yeah, but ultimately if you're really doing great work, people will find a way, just like a great athlete.

1:18:58 Drew We call that show business then. Well, that's what happens in show business. People are paying, they get away with stuff.

1:19:04 Adam In the real world, they go, fuh, that's too short. Let me just bring you my own thing here for a second. Good carpenters, hard to find good carpenters. And good carpenters can be super flaky and you won't cut them loose. And good carpenters can miss days and good carpenters can cuss out the foreman and stuff like that because they're so skilled at what they do and they're such short supply, people will look the other way.

1:19:28 Drew But in a way you're sort of making both of our points there. They will look the other way, but many people at a certain point will finally go, I don't care how good he is.

1:19:34 Lisa Edelstein And the minute they find an option, that guy's out.

1:19:36 Adam At a certain point, yeah.

1:19:39 Lisa Edelstein It's like finding an honest contractor.

1:19:42 Adam Maggie?

1:19:43 Yes?

1:19:44 Adam You're 20?

1:19:45 Uh-huh.

1:19:46 Adam What's up?

1:19:48 Well, I went to the, I was having a lot of problems with my period, like every time I was on it, it was like incredibly, incredibly painful. Like I was in my bed screaming for the whole time.

1:20:00 Drew Nice.

1:20:00 Caller And I went to the doctor, an actually different doctor than my normal one, and they caught that I had endometriosis. And I've had it since I was like in, I've had been having the same problem since I was in like sixth grade.

1:20:14 Lisa Edelstein So you're like hemorrhaging essentially every time you had your period.

1:20:17 Caller Yeah. And they, they went in and did the, did a laparoscopy for it and fixed it. But, and that was probably about four months ago now. And then they put me on Depo Povera to stop my period so I could heal or whatever. And, but I'm, I've been bleeding the whole time. I've been on Depo constantly, like maybe off for like a week.

1:20:39 Drew Maggie, Maggie, that's what happens to everybody that takes the Depo. You have three months of bleeding and then you have three months.

1:20:44 Caller So I'm still a lot of pain and I've gone to the doctor about it. And when I, whenever I go to the urgent care or whatever, and they do a blood test to see it, because they're always worried that it's appendicitis, because it's pain in that area. Right. My blood, my white blood count's always up at like 1600.

1:21:04 Drew 16,000?

1:21:05 Caller They're like, well, it's not, they do like a CAT scan. They go, well, it's not appendicitis, so we're just going to send you home. And I'm just worried since it's a lot of pain. And I mean, it took them how long to catch me in the meteorosis. I don't really trust my doctors.

1:21:18 Drew Well, here's the deal. 16,000 is not normal. Okay, and look, it warrants, at very least, careful supervision. So you go back to your doctor, you get checked, you get followed, and CAT scan, MRI, ultrasound, all that of that area where there are symptoms is a reasonable thing to do. But the appendix does get missed an awful lot. Now you may want to see a general surgeon just to see if that's a possibility. It doesn't sound like anything you should be alarmed about. The reality is that if this is something more serious than just endometriosis, it will show itself with time. So as long as you're being watched and followed and carefully sort of examined across time, they'll figure this out eventually. You've got kind of a funny idea about endometriosis. Endometriosis is just uterine tissue out in your pelvic cavity. And it gets, it sets up there and actually menstruates. And as when you're in your period, it gets very irritating to the lining of your pelvis. And they go in the laparoscope and they take it all out.

1:22:12 Adam I'm looking to end senior bias.

1:22:14 Drew I think we should.

1:22:15 Adam That's my thing.

1:22:16 Drew That's a good idea.

1:22:17 Caller Yeah, all right, you're cool?

1:22:18 Adam Cool. End senior bias.

1:22:20 Drew All right, yeah, that's fair enough.

1:22:20 Adam Let's just do that.

1:22:22 Caller All right, good.

1:22:23 Adam Let's take ourselves a little break. You gotta be a little more specific than that, don't you? How many, and let me just say, as we were talking about earlier, how much senior abuse is actually going down and who's responsible and do you know anyone that's doing it and don't they get abused when they go to those crappy homes?

1:22:43 Drew Well, that's part of the campaign, but I think what's happening...

1:22:46 Adam Who's actually doing the senior abusing?

1:22:49 Drew The kids, usually.

1:22:50 Adam The kids, the children. Are they physically abusing them?

1:22:54 Drew It's usually sort of inadvertent. It's like they don't really realize, we have this huge ageing population, and people aren't being raised to understand what that population needs, and they leave them in their feces and they don't take care of them, their skin breaks down, that's considered elder abuse, they just don't know. There is also overt abuse when they start struggling and fighting with them and stuff. The point is just raising awareness about the services that are available to help deal with old people.

1:23:20 Adam I believe a lot of it is, listen old man, I've waited 70 years to give you an ass-whopper.

1:23:25 Drew Now I finally feel like I can do it. I ask you why, you kick your dad's ass.

1:23:29 Adam I'm going to give my dad a few more years, and then I'm going upside his head with a folding chair.

1:23:34 Lisa Edelstein Well, we don't live in a society where we have a natural order of respecting our elders.

1:23:39 Drew Or we don't live with them as much, you know.

1:23:41 Adam That's right. You know, in Japan, they respect their elders over there.

1:23:46 Drew Anywhere but here.

1:23:47 Adam It's better.

1:23:48 Drew In Iceland, it's better.

1:23:49 Adam Yeah. Then they harpoon some whales, and then they capture sharks and just cut the fin off and throw them back, and then they eat some sushi off a virgin, and then they commit suicide. But they respect their elders over there. You understand me? Yeah. Don't worry about the whaling.

1:24:06 Lisa Edelstein There's no senior abuse in there.

1:24:08 Adam Respect their elders. Yeah.

1:24:10 Caller All right.

1:24:11 Adam Take a quick break. Be right back after this.

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1:24:46 Adam Yeah, Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, Lisa Edelstein here tonight from House, Tuesday nights.

1:24:54 Caller Fox, nine o'clock.

1:24:56 Adam And then after that, you watch my TLC show. Learn a little something about home improvement.

1:25:01 Lisa Edelstein Their whole evening is planned on Tuesday. It's an easy night.

1:25:04 Adam Yeah, you don't have to leave the house.

1:25:05 Drew Or TiVo.

1:25:06 Adam Or you do the TiVo thing.

1:25:07 Lisa Edelstein Or TiVo, and then you listen to you guys on the radio.

1:25:09 Adam Yeah. Steve?

1:25:11 Drew By the way, an interesting thing I did is a show with Lance Armstrong tonight that's gonna air during the week. It's pretty good.

1:25:15 Adam When's it air? I thought you already did that.

1:25:17 Drew He aired tonight at 8, but he's gonna keep airing throughout the week. You know how to do that stuff. But just keep an eye out for it. It's a good show. It's a good show.

1:25:23 Lisa Edelstein Was he a nice guy?

1:25:24 Drew Very nice guy. Totally impressed. Really? I was prepared, you know how we are. Yeah, we hate everyone. Whatever. We get over people pretty easily. And he was a mensch. He was a good guy.

1:25:37 Lisa Edelstein Really? Nice.

1:25:38 Adam You think he knows what the word mensch means?

1:25:40 Drew No. Okay. I figure Lisa did.

1:25:41 Lisa Edelstein Not a Jew.

1:25:42 Adam Steve? Yeah. Yeah. You're 21?

1:25:48 Caller Yes.

1:25:49 Adam Yeah. What's up?

1:25:51 Caller I got this problem with my nose. I don't know what's going on. It's been like a year now. I wake up in the morning.

1:25:56 Caller I just got like blood.

1:25:57 Caller It's either blood or it's dried up blood.

1:26:00 Caller And it really like hurts my throat in the morning and stuff.

1:26:02 Drew Why don't you get it looked into, Steve?

1:26:05 Lisa Edelstein What's that?

1:26:06 Drew Why don't you get this looked into? Are you doing cocaine or speed or anything?

1:26:09 Caller No, I've never done drugs before.

1:26:11 Drew Are you getting this look?

1:26:12 Caller That my doctor just tells me it's a normal thing and it'll go away.

1:26:15 Drew Did you see your nose and throat, doctor?

1:26:17 Caller I'm sorry, say that again?

1:26:19 Drew Did you see an ear, nose and throat, doctor?

1:26:20 Caller Yeah.

1:26:22 Drew And then-

1:26:22 Caller What was the only doctor I could really go to?

1:26:26 Lisa Edelstein Is he a specialist in ears, nose and throats?

1:26:29 Caller I mean, listen, and they pretty much just pawn me off to whoever.

1:26:33 Drew All right, Steve, get an ENT consult. Fine, then take control of things. Get an ENT consult. There you go.

1:26:38 Adam Steve sounds like a delight. You can, when the weather gets dry, maybe it has been pretty dry lately, you can just get those spontaneous bleeds.

1:26:49 Lisa Edelstein If you're running the heater, if it's really dry in your house, maybe if you get a humidifier. Get a humidifier for the room.

1:26:55 Drew Yeah, it could be a lot of different things, all of which needs more formal evaluation, so.

1:26:59 Adam Steve.

1:27:00 Drew Those are all good suggestions.

1:27:01 Adam What do you do in construction?

1:27:02 Drew Real estate, he said.

1:27:03 Lisa Edelstein No, he's listed.

1:27:05 Caller No, I work on a ship.

1:27:07 Lisa Edelstein Oh, he's listed. Well, that could be pretty stuffy, can it?

1:27:11 Adam Yeah.

1:27:11 Lisa Edelstein So, I don't know if they're allowed to have a humidifier on a ship.

1:27:15 Adam You don't need one. You're in a body of water.

1:27:17 Drew All those guys are laughing.

1:27:18 Adam What is your, what kind of vessel are you on, Steve?

1:27:22 Caller I'm sorry, say that again?

1:27:23 Lisa Edelstein Are you on a submarine?

1:27:25 No.

1:27:26 Lisa Edelstein What can I say?

1:27:27 To be honest with you.

1:27:28 Drew You can't say?

1:27:29 Adam You can't say what type of ship it is?

1:27:30 Lisa Edelstein You're not under the water. You're not dealing with pressure, air pressure. No. Issues.

1:27:36 Adam You can't say what kind of ship you're on?

1:27:39 Caller I guess I can say it's just like a similar to like a um.

1:27:45 Lisa Edelstein A big ship.

1:27:47 Drew Aircraft carrier, there you go. Are you going to be going overseas?

1:27:50 I already went.

1:27:52 Drew How was it?

1:27:53 It was alright.

1:27:54 Adam Okay.

1:27:54 Lisa Edelstein It was alright.

1:27:55 Adam Well, let's wait, wait. Well, well, if you listen to a morning's on the camisacks, you'll hear. Here's the whole thing. Yeah, it's okay.

1:28:05 Lisa Edelstein It's alright.

1:28:08 Drew Yeah.

1:28:08 Adam I'm amazed at people that do things that are interesting and they have nothing really to say about it.

1:28:13 Drew Or even more sort of mystified by our interest. Why'd you want to know? It was alright.

1:28:19 Adam We were in the Gulf of Tonkin for a while. A couple of planes hit our ship, but, nah. It's okay.

1:28:25 Lisa Edelstein It's okay.

1:28:26 Adam Yeah. You know, aircraft carrier.

1:28:30 Lisa Edelstein Maybe he doesn't want to think about it in that much detail.

1:28:32 Drew The Fallujahs.

1:28:33 Lisa Edelstein Maybe it wasn't okay at all.

1:28:36 Adam The guys on the ships don't seem to have the battle fatigue syndrome that the ground pounders have.

1:28:42 Drew I noticed that. At least our callers that fit that profile.

1:28:45 Adam Yeah, because most of these guys... Well, here's the whole thing about the aircraft carrier. First off, floating cities.

1:28:52 Drew Literally.

1:28:53 Adam Floating cities. If I hear another aircraft carrier special refer to as the floating city, I will kill myself. That is a floating city. Literally a floating city. It has barbers. It has a soup kitchen. It has wash. Yeah, yeah, we get it. There's 4,000 people that live on it. We understand you got to have a barbership. I've done the math. You're at sea for six months. I understand you have to bring some food. I understand how that goes. I understand how that would go. So the thing about it is, most these guys are working on something that keeps the ship going.

1:29:26 Drew Right, not any sort of flight pilot.

1:29:29 Adam They're not on the deck with the 50 caliber machine gun. They're actually doing something that trash disposal, laundry, whatever.

1:29:37 Drew Support services.

1:29:38 Adam Support services, which is not going to get you laid. But you also don't have to wake up in the middle of the night with cold sweat pouring down your face thinking that you screwed up a starch shirt.

1:29:50 Drew Right.

1:29:50 Adam You know what I'm saying?

1:29:51 Drew Yes.

1:29:51 Adam Yeah, that's what you need.

1:29:54 Caller Heather?

1:29:55 Drew Yes.

1:29:56 Adam You know the thing that's crazy? The nuclear powered ones, they don't have to do no fueling for like 25 years.

1:30:03 Drew Wow.

1:30:04 Caller 25 years.

1:30:05 Drew Crazy.

1:30:06 Adam It's crazy, isn't it? They just have that, they just have those rods, baby. And those rods give off heat for 25 years. Well, probably 250 million years. But the point is, here's the thing, those ships and those ships would burn a million gallons of diesel fuel every week if they were just turning that prompt, just burning it.

1:30:31 Drew How come they don't ever worry about, you hear the China syndrome and meltdowns, how come they don't worry about somebody dropping something on one of those ships and a meltdown occurring?

1:30:40 Adam Well, the nuclear subs have sunk before.

1:30:43 Drew But I mean, somebody dropping something explosive on them, you know what I mean? Why don't they worry about that more than a meltdown or something?

1:30:49 Adam In the propulsion system?

1:30:52 Drew In other words, this is a...

1:30:53 Adam Sabotage.

1:30:54 Drew Exactly, there's a lot of terrorist attention.

1:30:57 Lisa Edelstein Is it a floating bomb?

1:30:58 Drew A lot of terrorist attention to nuclear power plants. Why don't they have the same attention to these floating cities?

1:31:03 Adam Well, first off, the power plant has six guys in those yellow windbreakers who...

1:31:10 Drew No fighter pilots.

1:31:11 Adam Standing around and they don't have six decks above them of well-trained guys with, you know what I mean? They can't defend themselves. That's the whole thing. They have inadequate security. That's the scary part about... The morally safer shows up with a camera crew, finds a gate that's open and walks into the place.

1:31:31 Lisa Edelstein And why do we have a nuclear power plant on the ocean, on the fault line just below Los Angeles?

1:31:38 Adam 20... You're talking about...

1:31:40 Drew Santa No Frey.

1:31:42 Lisa Edelstein Who thought that that was a good idea?

1:31:45 Adam I don't know. But you know what? It works. And here's the deal. You'd be burning coal otherwise. And that's the reality.

1:31:52 Drew And contributing to the ozone.

1:31:55 Adam That's right. Heather?

1:31:56 Lisa Edelstein Yes.

1:31:57 Adam You're 24?

1:31:59 Lisa Edelstein Yes.

1:32:00 Adam What's up?

1:32:02 Well, I've been diagnosed and treated... I mean, I can't say completely treated, but I've been treated for depression and PTSD and attention deficit.

1:32:13 Drew Post-traumatic stress disorder. And what else?

1:32:17 And attention deficit disorder.

1:32:19 Drew And what is your question?

1:32:21 I want to have children, but I'm really... You know, you guys talk about it a lot, like people with messed up histories having children.

1:32:32 Drew Well, no, no, Heather, people with messed up history don't acknowledge that they have a messed up history. You're somebody who's in careful treatment or being managed.

1:32:38 Adam Yeah. And they've had three kids by now.

1:32:41 Drew Right.

1:32:41 Adam You're giving it thought.

1:32:42 Drew Just because you have mental issues doesn't mean, or mental disorder doesn't mean that you can't have kids. It's going to be dicey because you have to come off your meds and you have to be very carefully managed. But Mazel Tov, go keep going. Yeah. This is not the situation we're talking about where people...

1:32:58 Lisa Edelstein Plus her issues sound circumstantial, not necessarily genetic. She's in post-traumatic stress.

1:33:04 Drew Truly. But I think that's what she's referring to is that we're always saying screwed up people having kids, acting that out on the kids. But this is not her. I mean, her kids are going to have a little challenge because she's got some chronic illness. But no more challenge than a mom with cystic fibrosis or chronic back injury or whatever. So that's all right.

1:33:23 Adam All right. We'll take a break. We'll be back after this.

1:34:07 Caller Yeah!

1:34:09 Drew Okay, I guess that'll do it.

1:34:10 Adam Well, that's it. That's show. Yeah, Drew, come on.

1:34:13 Drew Lee Zadlestein, House, my favorite show, Tuesday, 9 o'clock, Fox.

1:34:16 Adam Drew showing up. Yeah. And let me tell you something. He drew. It was a game time decision.

1:34:22 Drew There was.

1:34:22 Adam We did not know if Drew was going to go or not.

1:34:24 Drew Going to suit up. And then A, was I going to suit up? A, B, was I going to make it to the game?

1:34:28 Adam Yeah. The point is, is he showed up and went to work. Lisa, God love you. God bless you. Thank you.

1:34:32 Drew Thank you.

1:34:33 Adam We'll take ourselves a little extendo break. God willing, Drew will be back 100 percent tomorrow night. Until next time, I'm Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.

1:34:42 Caller This has been Loveline.

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