Episode 1000724342076

1:03 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content. Sexually-oriented content.

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1:19 Voiceover This is Loveline.

1:23 Voiceover With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

1:26 Voiceover Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. Tonight, we welcome to the show for the first time. What shall I call you? What title should I, other than James?

1:43 James Van Praagh My name is Diego.

1:44 Adam Yes, but what title?

1:45 James Van Praagh Spiritual medium.

1:46 Adam Spiritual medium. That's good. That's good. It's solid. A lot of people get, a lot of folks get uptight. We call them a psychic. They don't like it. They call it medium. They don't like it.

1:55 James Van Praagh Psycho is more like it for me.

1:57 Adam Chipsy. They don't like it. I'm going to write down spiritual medium on the other side. You remember that show which was on for a couple seasons. How many seasons was that?

2:07 James Van Praagh Two years. It's a couple of seasons. Very good.

2:10 Adam I did watch, well, here's the whole thing about the whole psychic thing and the spiritual medium and all that stuff is, nobody wants to believe it until the person says, let me tell you something I know about you, and then everyone shuts up and they become all ears. Now, that's, I guess, a narcissism, but possibly a healthy narcissism that all people have. Drew's wife had a psychic at her party or maybe Drew's party a couple of years back, and everyone in the party just stood in line the entire time. Left Drew and I just standing there by the punch ball, crying, talking about Loveline. There was a line going out the pool cabana where people actually got into it with somebody. Remember, I wanted to get a reading and they wanted to get a second reading and I was like, I got to go and they're like, I will get my third reading. My dog hasn't been read. They ended up leaving without my reading. Who knows what fortunes I missed out on? One of your wife's dopey friends. The point is, James, in general, I don't believe in this stuff, but we do have lots of weird things that go on in the show. We have had people in the past tell us things that we couldn't explain. Some people are better than others. I will definitely tell you that.

3:27 James Van Praagh As in every field.

3:28 Adam Yes. Why should it be any different than carpentry?

3:31 James Van Praagh I heard Kenny Kingston on here once with a poor man. Remember?

3:35 Drew Yes, we heard him.

3:36 Adam Sweet spirit.

3:36 Sweet, sweet, sweet.

3:38 Adam Speaking of sweet.

3:40 Drew I'm probably laughing at Kenny Kingston.

3:43 Adam Super sacchariney sweet spirit. Sweet spirit. Lap dog, traveling companion, old jag going on a cruise. Sweet, sweet, sweet spirit. But we've had people in here that just do this one where they go, they throw out a name, you tell them, look, there's nobody I know by that name and they tell you, think about it. You say, look, I don't have to do it. You give me the name Elroy, I'm going to tell you, I don't work with anyone, no one in my family, don't know anyone. Think about it. Don't need to think about it. Any more and you need to think about a name you've never heard of.

4:16 James Van Praagh Once in New York, it was funny, I was in an audience like 200 people. Some people get psychic amnesia, some people that want to hear one thing, but you give them something else and they don't understand what you're throwing at them. I said, this lady's here, her mother, and you know this lady, the guy was yes, I think so. She wants to tell her to Tom, do you know what Tom? He goes, no, no, and the wife is hitting him. Honey, that's your name. Stuff like that happens a lot too.

4:39 Adam I would become the verbally abusive psychic once I found out.

4:43 James Van Praagh I start throwing things at him.

4:44 Adam Yeah, I'd be like, Tom, and once I found out it was his name, I'd say, you don't know your own god damn name? I curse you to hell, and I would have a thunderclap, and a sparkler go off just to freak everyone out.

4:55 Drew Whatever fashion you chose, Adam, you'd be the abusive, fill the blank.

4:58 Adam Fill the blank. Conductor.

5:00 Drew Music director. Sweet spirit.

5:04 Adam Yes, rehab specialist, work with a handicap. You just fill whatever that special needs teacher, whatever it is, you just put abusive in front of that.

5:14 James Van Praagh So I'm going to tell you, I'm a big fan of this show. I've been listening to it for years.

5:17 Tell me, Drew, to be here.

5:18 James Van Praagh No, every night I listen to it. I'm telling you, I've been waiting. I can't believe I'm here. Thanks a lot.

5:24 Adam Well, listen, we're glad to have you. That's great. So the new show, by the way, that James is executive producer on, not talent.

5:33 James Van Praagh Do you write a little bit too? I'm helping the writers out with it because they don't know this world, so I help them with it.

5:37 Adam Is the Ghost Whisperer, which has Jennifer Love Hewitt, who I've had a crush on since before it was legal. I have crushes on her. Right.

5:46 You know what I'm saying?

5:47 Adam Yeah. I've always been into her.

5:49 Drew Yeah.

5:50 James Van Praagh Good crush.

5:50 Drew She's right in your wheelhouse. That's right.

5:51 Adam Yeah. She's right in my wheel. She's got a nice rack on her. She's got the brown hair.

5:58 And she's a good person too.

6:00 Adam I don't care about her.

6:01 No, no, no. Don't ruin it for her. Don't ruin it.

6:04 James Van Praagh Nice brown eyes.

6:07 Adam And she forces people to call her Love, which I like. I don't know if she's done that.

6:12 James Van Praagh But that was her name. She was born with that name. And then Jennifer, yeah, that's what she was born with. Her name was Love. That's the name she gave her. But then Hollywood has said Jennifer. They want to call her Jennifer.

6:20 Drew Then I like Aisha Tyler.

6:21 Adam Oh, Aisha Tyler.

6:22 James Van Praagh She's great.

6:23 Adam Yeah. She's in my wheelhouse too.

6:25 Drew She's the smartest female comedian, would you say, on the planet?

6:29 Adam Well, female comedians are all such a mess.

6:31 Drew But they're smart, usually. But she's super smart.

6:32 Adam Well, they're smart, but a mess. She's not a mess. She's a-

6:35 James Van Praagh Very bright lady.

6:36 Drew Oh.

6:36 Adam Very bright. And a tall glass of Nubian warrior shit. She's like a big brown milkshake.

6:43 James Van Praagh Well, can I use that in the press?

6:46 Adam She's a good looking lady. She's sassy. She's smart. I mean, yeah, you couldn't have done much better on Aisha Tyler and Jennifer Love Hewitt.

6:53 James Van Praagh No, it's great.

6:55 Adam And so now you're the executive producer of Ghost Whisperer, which coming on CBS on Fridays at 8 o'clock, which I've been seeing a pretty big push for. Oh, yeah. So do you look at yourself as sort of technical advisers?

7:09 James Van Praagh Yeah, exactly. What happens is I came up with this idea at a TV show about two years ago called Beyond. It was a daytime series. And we had a section on that show with paranormal specialists. And one of the producers found this lady in Cleveland who's a real ghost buster. Now, me being the skeptic, which believe it or not, I am a very skeptical people that say they can do these sorts of things.

7:28 Adam Yeah, it's like Drew's that way with doctors. He thinks they're all so-so-bones. He hates them all.

7:32 James Van Praagh You have to be, though. Especially in this field.

7:33 Adam That's the way I am with Ty Pennington. I'm a carpenter, but I don't believe this guy's a real carpenter.

7:37 Drew Boy, you are that way.

7:38 Adam That's what happens. All right, so you're the same.

7:40 James Van Praagh Yeah, exactly. So I was very skeptical and I tested these people. And I met her and we went to Oklahoma, this house in Oklahoma, which was haunted supposedly. She gave names to people that were haunting it, the graveyard they buried in, stuff you couldn't find on a computer or anything. It's like, come on, you can find this on a computer.

7:54 Adam Right.

7:55 James Van Praagh It was right on.

7:56 Adam Do you think that women have a more natural capacity for this just because of their capacity to?

8:06 Drew Intuit. Yeah.

8:06 Adam Be intuitive.

8:07 James Van Praagh Well, they have to be having birth. I'm giving birth, you have to be someone instinctive and intuitive. You have to be for survival and so with children.

8:13 Drew You think it's all that part of our brain, that right part?

8:15 James Van Praagh I think it's part of it. Certainly, I think that's part of it, a good part of it. I think it's your make up in general as a whole, but definitely women, the survival instinct and definitely that's a big, big part.

8:23 Adam So what is-

8:24 James Van Praagh And women are much more feeling, they can more with their emotions, or men are more left brain, women are more going to be right brain.

8:29 Adam The guys feel like sharks do with their mouth. You know what I mean? They always do that. Sharks just testing you out, just want to see what you're made of. I got no leg. Yeah, yeah, just testing you out. I had no other way you could do that. Yeah, no, he didn't mean anything. Worse, I have no leg.

8:43 Drew Yeah, men left the bite.

8:44 Adam He wasn't hungry. I feel worse. I have no leg now. I wish he'd eaten my leg. This is like killing a chicken and just shooting it into a jet engine to test the propeller blades. It's like what kind of, and then what happens?

8:56 Drew It happens for a reason.

8:57 Adam Does your leg have a soul, by the way, or is that all in your brain? You know what I mean? What if a shark gets your leg? They get like 20 percent of your soul?

9:04 James Van Praagh You know what I'm saying? Well, you have a spirit body, which is in the physical body. It's just a-

9:10 Adam The shark, that's the one the shark eats.

9:12 James Van Praagh Yeah, the physical.

9:12 Adam Right.

9:13 James Van Praagh But to get part of that.

9:14 Adam Shark can never take the spiritual part of me.

9:16 James Van Praagh No.

9:16 Adam That's the part I don't need though. I want the spiritual part so I can get up off the goddamn sofa.

9:20 James Van Praagh They get the meat.

9:20 Drew It tastes very good.

9:21 Adam Not much of it. Yeah.

9:22 Drew Not much to it.

9:22 James Van Praagh Soul food.

9:23 Adam All right. So let's try to break this down because Drew and I, while not the spiritual mediums or psychics.

9:32 James Van Praagh Well, you're very intuitive.

9:33 Adam We're intuitive. We're intuitive, yes. But a lot of that intuition is based on repetition. We hear what people's voices sound like and your mind starts to categorize.

9:46 James Van Praagh I've heard you guys all the time and you are intuitive because there's a part of you which is your senses, which your sight is shut off because you don't see the people, but you hear their voice.

9:54 Drew Right.

9:54 James Van Praagh And many times when I hear the voice, it puts thoughts in your head or you get feelings from that voice.

9:58 Drew Exactly.

9:59 James Van Praagh And you've given incredible advice just based on that person's voice.

10:02 Drew How they make you feel.

10:03 James Van Praagh And yes, you've heard cases and certain cases repeat themselves and certain behavior. But you have intuitive stuff. I mean, you go to bets about people's behavior and you're right on. Well, so then the part that's intuitive and part of it might be from doing it all the time.

10:16 Adam So the question is about this stuff, because I, you know, there's a hocus pocus side of this that I want no part of. But then there's a part that I think there are parts of the brain that are unknown or untapped into that have little spikes and flashes and show themselves every once in a while. And I feel it on the show. We're just talking along to somebody and I say, I just bring up Batting Cage or something out of nowhere, and it turns out the chick's boyfriend works at a batting cage.

10:45 James Van Praagh I love that.

10:47 Adam I don't know why it jumped into my head. It wasn't something we talked about earlier.

10:50 Drew What's more mysterious is the girl he raises this with doesn't seem at all impressed.

10:54 Adam That's the part that's truly mysterious. That's the part they do a TV show on. Yeah, the Tard Whisperer. I bring up the fact that her boyfriend works at a batting cage, and she just blows it off and keeps moving. She goes, yeah, that's my boyfriend. Anyway. Ten minutes later, I go, seriously, what's the guy do for a living? She's like, works at a batting cage.

11:11 James Van Praagh Unbelievable.

11:11 Adam You don't want to bring it up the first time.

11:13 James Van Praagh Well, I have to throw at you, which is I tell people this too, especially working radio and television. You're working in radio, so you're sending out your voice into the air. But you look up the air, you don't see your voice there, but yet people receive it on the receivers. So what is that about? Just because you don't see the voice in the airwaves, it doesn't exist. So I tell people that because we're so used to a physical world, in a three-dimensional world, you have to see, feeling the five senses, but there's things that exist you don't see. So that doesn't exist.

11:36 Adam So now you believe, you communicate with people that have passed on, right?

11:43 James Van Praagh Correct. Out of the physical dimension.

11:45 Adam Right. What's left behind is the spiritual body, let's just call it, and does it go somewhere, or is it here amongst us?

11:56 James Van Praagh Good point.

11:57 Adam I never know if you're up looking down, you're down looking up, where are you?

12:01 James Van Praagh Depends different with different people. The show I'm doing, this Ghost Whisperer, is based on earthbound spirits. So there are those spirits who pass out of the body, everybody passes out of their body when they die. Right. These people are some people who haven't finished, maybe it's unfinished business, maybe something's not resolved. Supposedly, there's a light for everybody when they pass out of the body, and they go to that light, but there are some people that don't, they stay earthbound. Right. But then there are most people go into the light, and they see relatives standing there, and people that near to the experiences and so forth, they've described this light, this sort of thing, and what happens is this dimension, if you will, is all around us, it's interdimensional. So fourth, fifth, sixth dimension, interdimensional, and I'm able to attune myself to that higher dimension, if you will.

12:39 Drew How did you learn to do that?

12:41 James Van Praagh You know the movie Sixth Sense? Yeah. That was my story. You were a kid. You were a kid. That was my story. I was a kid like that. I used to see spirit as a kid. I see lights around people, colors around people, which are the aura, and I didn't know what it was, and I thought, I'm from New York, and I was thinking, what is going on here? I thought everybody could see these things. I said to my mom, who are those people with the lights behind them? She goes, you see them too? She goes, those are God's angels. Don't worry. I used to see them when I was a little girl. They will always take care of you and protect you. So I never was raised with a sense of this is weird, or this is unnatural. To me, it was very natural, and the people that didn't see these things, I thought they were weird. So I was raised with it. It was never a fear thing with me at all. I remember in first grade, I said to my teacher, six years old, and I said to my teacher, I walked up to her, I said, your son John just got hit by a car. But don't worry, he's going to be OK. He just broke his leg. And she goes, go back to your seat. And five minutes later, the principal comes in, she pulls her out of the room, teacher, she comes back, and she starts crying. She goes, James, come here. I said, yes. She goes, how did you know that? How did you know that? And I started crying, thinking I created it with my thoughts. As a kid, you think this. And she really saved my life. She really helped me that lady because she said, listen, God gives people certain gifts or abilities of doing something. Maybe one day you'll help people with his abilities. So don't worry about it. So just think if she was, and I was in Catholic school.

13:49 Adam You could have freaked her out.

13:50 James Van Praagh It was a Catholic school. Remember her name? Yeah, I remember her name. Yes, I do. Her name was Mrs. Stacil.

13:56 Adam Mrs. Stacil.

13:57 James Van Praagh Mrs. Stacil. Right. But imagine if she was a nun in those days. Yeah. Go to hell.

14:03 Adam No, I would have given you a good exorcism. I would have got something out of you.

14:10 James Van Praagh Yes.

14:10 Adam There's devil would have been in you.

14:11 James Van Praagh One extra Holy Communion.

14:12 Adam So you've always had this. You've always seen this.

14:15 James Van Praagh So as a kid, I shut down around puberty because I was thinking of other things in those days. Sure. Then I moved out here to be a sitcom writer in my early 20s because I'm funny. So I thought I'll just pursue that.

14:25 Adam You don't have to be funny to write a sitcom.

14:27 James Van Praagh That's what I found out.

14:28 Adam If you have a TV set or not.

14:29 James Van Praagh That's what I found out.

14:31 Adam Yeah.

14:31 James Van Praagh It can hurt you. I was working at the time at a talent agency, William Morris Agency, which is funny. He's in the basement playing staples at a contract, eight hours a day. Wow. Not even in the mail room. I was below the mail room.

14:42 Adam Wow.

14:42 James Van Praagh Yeah, below the mail room.

14:44 Drew It's like the toothpaste screw on her.

14:45 James Van Praagh It's like monotonous.

14:47 Adam It's a hatch to get down there.

14:48 It's not even stairs.

14:50 James Van Praagh But he's in these contracts with Lucio Ball and Groucho Morris. That's kind of cool. Maybe I got to be here for some reason. I feel like I got to be here for some reason. Maybe I'll need an agent. He'll get me a sitcom. I met a lady there and she said, do you want to go see a medium? I said, what the heck is that? He said, he's someone who talks to the dead. I said, you know what? I really don't believe in that. I think it's a bunch of crap. I don't believe it.

15:05 Drew How old were you at the time?

15:05 James Van Praagh I was raised Catholic. I was about 24, 23, 24. I said, would you go with me? I said, yeah, all right, fine. I'll just make fun of the guy, whatever. I walk in the room, the guy goes, you're a medium. I said, well, thank you. I'm kind of short, but thank you. But he goes, no, in two years' time, the spirit people want to use you. You're a sensitive. You have this ability. I said, I don't know about that. But he did a reading. He brought through people that my family passed over. Things about me no one knew about. It was like blew me away. That's the thing, right? Where's that guy? He's in Reseda, California. Still here, still doing his thing. Yeah, still doing his thing. Once a week, now he has group meetings. Anyway, I was then promoted to a job at Paramount in the contract department. Not in the basement, but actually the syndication department.

15:45 Drew Not in the staple of the contract, the actual contract.

15:46 James Van Praagh Actual contract department. There was a girl there and she was doing astrology and it was weird. I looked over her and I saw this lady standing behind her. This thought came to me about Idaho and a yellow house with white shutters and needle point or something and I was like, what the heck? I said, you know, Joe, do you understand this lady here? You might think this is weird, but you know, what do you think of this? And this Idaho and this. She goes, wow, I can't believe you're saying this. She said, every summer I go to my grandmother in a house in Idaho, yellow house with white shutters. And the last thing she did was teach me how to do needle point. And she made a promise to me that if she could ever come back, she had to say hello to me. She would tell me so. And I was like freaked me out.

16:24 Adam So the feeling is that this person is in the presence of her granddaughter. Or is it that her granddaughter is exuding it?

16:35 James Van Praagh No. So you know when you're walking, you feel like someone is standing behind you. Is that a sense?

16:41 Adam I get that at urinals.

16:44 James Van Praagh I don't know where you go to the urinals, but I would change. I don't know. Is that a sense? Describe it to people. That's a sense that you have.

16:51 Drew But you were saying, is it possibly something that the individual is exuding from their past that you picked up on?

16:56 Adam Could they be like a projector and you're the screen? Which means there's not an actual person there. You're just coming off them like they ate garlic.

17:05 Drew Just the way we hear abuse and stuff. You see they're the people that went important in their life.

17:09 James Van Praagh I also saw some mind reading. Maybe it's mind reading. Maybe something they're projecting out from their past. Maybe it's that sort of thing. I thought that too, because I'm very analytical and very skeptical. But then information would come through that that person knew nothing about, like, family history. I remember when there was adoption, I said someone said it was a Mercy Hospital or something, and it was this person where they were. Weird stuff that they would not know about, and they went home and checked it, so it's not even within their reality. So that's what blew me away.

17:33 Adam Well, I would argue, though, there's still a way, as long as we're talking about different levels that are not known, that people know things that they don't know or have a way of exuding things that they don't know they're exuding.

17:47 James Van Praagh There's different levels of consciousness. So there's different levels of consciousness. And the consciousness, which we really got to understand, is outside the body. So your conscious is not limited to the physical body. The conscious is outside the physical body as well.

17:58 Adam What do you see anything off, Drew? She got an aura. What color is this aura?

18:01 Drew It makes me anxious. It makes me nervous.

18:02 Adam Actually, I think Drew-

18:04 James Van Praagh I see you writing, I don't know if you're going to write another book or you're thinking about writing a book. There's a book around you, really strong.

18:08 Drew Yeah.

18:08 James Van Praagh And it's a really good book.

18:10 Drew Every time I work this thing. Every time I work this thing. A psychic, they say that thing.

18:12 James Van Praagh It's so important.

18:13 Adam Yeah. Because they go on the Internet and they see a crap one out every four months. That's why.

18:17 James Van Praagh No, no. I'm sure you.

18:18 Adam True does have an old one.

18:19 James Van Praagh It's a thick book. It's a thick book. It's like a manual either. It's a good book. But I see a book around.

18:26 Drew A story.

18:26 James Van Praagh And the weird thing is the cover is red. There's like a red cover on it.

18:30 Adam Well, now it's going to make it red.

18:31 Drew It will.

18:32 James Van Praagh No, don't. I don't even remember I said this. A lot of people have to be like years later. You told me. I remember very strongly. Some lady comes up to me at a party. She goes, you told me that I was going to have a tumor in my left fallopian tube. I said, what? She goes, yes. She told me I had a fibroid cyst. I said, really? She goes, yes. She goes, I don't believe you. Then she goes, I just came from the doctor. I don't remember what I get. It comes in and goes out so quick. That's not my stuff.

18:53 Adam That's a good question, which is negative news. By the way, I would argue that Drew doesn't have an aura but a borah. It's a boring, super boring aura. You can see it's a brown haze that floats around his head. He's a teacher, a teacher. So now, one part about the whole psychic thing is, they do that thing where it's like the one goes over to Drew's place, he sees all the yenthas at the party. She does 30 readings and everything's positive. You think to yourself, well, come on now, someone's got to get in a car crash. Someone's kid's going to get a disease. I mean, as long as you're looking down the road, and we're all going to die, some sooner, some later, and there's going to be some tragedy, times 30, 50-year-old women, there's going to be something there. How come we don't hear about that? Of course, they're going to freak anybody out. I think these people don't want the messenger to get punished, and they figure if they start talking crap, they're not going to invite it back, and freak everyone, people are going to start crying.

19:55 James Van Praagh Well, in my work, what do you see? It's in my work, what I feel is the responsibility of what you do. With this type of work, you have people, just like your type of work, you have people there that are listening to you, they're vulnerable, and you have to be responsible. And my agreement with the spirit world, when I started doing this work, was if you give it to me, I gotta give it out. Now it's up to me, as how I'm gonna give this out. Like there are people out there irresponsible, saying you're gonna die next week, or whatever, wrong, wrong thing to say. So you say, have you been to the doctor lately? Have you been something checked up? You gotta be very careful, and you gotta be responsible. And a lot of people are out there who aren't responsible. And that's the ones who I, you know.

20:30 Adam So you would send somebody, you would tell somebody to go get checked up.

20:34 James Van Praagh Oh yeah, I've saved lives of people.

20:35 Adam Tell them to go get, and what if they laughed it off?

20:38 James Van Praagh That's their choice.

20:40 Adam You wouldn't feel like, I don't know, like you have to intervene.

20:43 James Van Praagh That's not my job. My job is to give the information out, whether they take it or not, that's fine. If they believe it or not, that's fine. I don't care.

20:49 Adam Hey, that's what I say on this show.

20:50 James Van Praagh I don't care, exactly.

20:51 Adam Put on a condom, you don't wanna listen to me, you screwed up teenagers, go to hell. I'm the same way. I get paid the same.

20:57 Drew Adam says I don't care a lot.

20:58 James Van Praagh Yes, I've heard him.

21:00 Adam Yeah.

21:01 James Van Praagh No, I like your attitude. That's a good attitude, Adam.

21:03 Adam Try to impart your knowledge.

21:05 Drew How about Adam, what's coming up here?

21:06 Adam Yeah, what do you got coming up here?

21:07 James Van Praagh When's your birthday? I wanna know your birthday.

21:09 Adam May 27th.

21:10 James Van Praagh So you're a Gemini.

21:11 Adam Yeah.

21:12 James Van Praagh Well, let's see, with you, I feel there's a creative part of you, which has not even been expressed yet. It's like not even.

21:17 Adam No, you know what? I think it's the opposite. I feel tapped out creatively. I feel like I had anything left.

21:21 James Van Praagh You're really good with color, like putting colors or designing something to color, like in a room or putting things together. I think you haven't done that yet. You really want to, you still haven't done it yet with color and paint, they're designing a room. I feel almost like I want to paint or I want to do something with like, paint your hang up, that's everything.

21:37 Adam You've got to do it.

21:38 James Van Praagh Painting.

21:38 Adam Fine art.

21:39 James Van Praagh Painting. Not like people, just like colors and not figures.

21:43 Adam Modern.

21:44 James Van Praagh You're really good with color and you got to do it. You're also, you struggle a lot. You're kind of conflicted, but that's-

21:50 Adam Yeah.

21:51 James Van Praagh No, it's like two parts of personality.

21:53 Adam What do you mean conflicted?

21:53 James Van Praagh You're like a Gemini type of personality, two different personalities. And you get pulled in a lot emotionally with stuff. Later you say, oh shoot, I shouldn't have done that. My emotions ran into it and I shouldn't have.

22:03 Adam I run a little at the mouth, but no, actually-

22:05 James Van Praagh But then you analyze things after that. So there's the emotional, then there's the analytical. I shouldn't have done that. What do I do that for? That whole thing happens.

22:12 Adam No, I'm going to go with no. Drew, you know me. What do you think?

22:15 Drew You don't care.

22:16 Adam Thank you.

22:16 Drew You don't care and I can't let it go.

22:18 Adam No, I mean, I don't know. I'm probably saner than most comedians.

22:23 Drew Yes.

22:24 Adam I may be a little less self-conscious.

22:26 Drew Yes.

22:27 Adam Don't read that. I don't read. That's my whole thing. I just keep moving. You know what I mean?

22:32 Drew Yeah.

22:32 Adam Yeah?

22:33 Drew Yeah.

22:35 James Van Praagh You learn by all the little things. You do many things where some people learn something from beginning, middle, and end of it. You just scratch the surface and move on to something else. Because you're bored very quickly. Go, go, go, go.

22:44 Adam Yeah, I do move around.

22:46 James Van Praagh You have to change the environment a lot. You have to change around you a lot. You get bored too quickly.

22:50 Adam Yeah, I do get bored.

22:51 James Van Praagh Too quickly. I mean, you're fast. If you have people around you that bore you, bye-bye.

22:56 No.

22:57 Adam If that were true, Drew would have been gone a long, long time ago.

23:00 Drew What you say, but if it were more than two hours, that'd be it. You wouldn't handle it.

23:03 Adam Oh, that's true. Yeah. All right. What name is that? Angela. Angela? Yeah. Angela, yeah. I don't know why I didn't read it to me. Angela, you're 26. What's up?

23:13 Caller I'm 26. Well, I have an issue. I've been with my boyfriend for four and a half years. I've been raising his six-year-old since she was one, and we have two together. He recently, in the last about four months, well, about four months ago, he went to a concert in a different town. Well, he spent the night spending large amounts of money at strip clubs. Then I found the receipts from it.

23:42 Adam You found the credit card bill?

23:44 Caller Actually, he was through it from his checking account.

23:50 Drew Well, how does the receipt work? Does it identify as a strip club?

23:55 Adam They'll usually just say like Bistro or something generic on there. I know. They don't want to humiliate you. They don't have Cheetos or crazy girls. Doesn't show up like glitter paint on your amics.

24:08 Caller Well, I have a friend that lives in the town that he went to, and I asked her what it was, and she was like, well, it was a strip club.

24:14 Adam Okay. So what was it called just out of curiosity?

24:18 Caller I can't even remember now.

24:20 Adam But it had like a generic name? Yeah.

24:22 Caller I wouldn't have known if she hadn't told me.

24:25 Adam That's my point.

24:26 Caller All right.

24:27 Adam Take a psychic.

24:27 Caller Good morning. He proceeded to lie to me and tell me all these crazy stories, and I didn't let him know I knew until finally I was just like what Lyon.

24:36 Adam All right. So here's the question. Did he go there with a group of guys?

24:40 Caller He went there with one of his male friends.

24:44 Drew A good friend. Okay.

24:45 Adam To me, the only reason I say that because there's a huge difference that women would probably not recognize in six or eight guys going to a strip club and you going solo. You going solo and dropping some bucks and staying there all night, you got something going on.

24:59 Drew And by the way, that's not a part time gig.

25:01 Adam No. You going with a group of guys, that means far less. And there's a bunch of stuff like that that women don't actually know about. Yeah, that is definitely one of them. So how much did he spend by the way?

25:14 Caller That night almost 300.

25:16 Drew Oh, there have been other nights.

25:18 Adam It would have been a light night for me and Jimmy.

25:19 Drew Oh, have you ever made it in with less than that? Jimmy especially.

25:25 Caller Well, it's an issue for me because for one, he's an alcoholic. He's an abusive alcoholic. He tears up. He abuses himself more than anything.

25:34 Adam All right.

25:34 Drew Well, that's a bigger issue here than the strip club.

25:37 Adam Yeah. So what are you hanging with this guy? And why are you crapping out the kids with this guy? Because your dad was an alcoholic, right?

25:45 Caller Well, because I love him, for one. Now you love dad.

25:47 Drew Now your dad was really an alcoholic. Dad was a very alcoholic too.

25:50 Caller I know.

25:52 Drew Dad would have been an abandoning abusive alcoholic.

25:54 Adam Sweet spirit. Just think of my mind and told her that her dad was an alcoholic.

25:58 James Van Praagh Little co-dependency.

25:59 Caller He's, you know, fun to be around. He, you know, I don't know.

26:03 Adam Your dad. Your dad had a problem with alcohol and this guy's a problem with alcohol.

26:07 Caller Well, he's, yeah, he's been an alcoholic since he was 14.

26:11 Drew So, about your dad or your husband?

26:13 Caller My boyfriend.

26:14 Drew Your boyfriend.

26:15 Adam I know. Now, what about your dad, though?

26:17 Caller My father? Well, my life growing up kind of sucked, really. I didn't have my dad in my life.

26:25 Drew Like I said, an abandoning abusive alcoholic.

26:27 Adam All right. And, good. Your kids?

26:29 Caller My mother was an alcoholic and I didn't have my kids in my life.

26:32 Adam Well, you got a legacy. You got to keep going.

26:35 Drew A circle of life. Got to keep it going.

26:36 Adam Yeah. So, your kids will have that when you kick this guy out.

26:39 Drew Here's the only thing that you can do. Don't worry about the strip club. This is part of his alcoholism and his compulsive arousing pursuits that he's into. You can go to Al-Anon. You can get a sponsor. You can work the 12 steps. And you then will not engage, or you can get yourself a counselor. It's a little bit more expensive that way. But you then will disengage from this dance. Okay, go to Al-Anon. Look, and then he needs to do something about his alcoholism. That's it, but you can't control that and you can't make him get better.

27:03 Adam Look, I'll tell you my feeling. Quite honestly, I don't want people like this. I'm not sure what Angela's going to do. I just want her frozen. I don't want to kill her, but I don't think she's going to heed anything you tell her. I don't think she's going to go to Al-Anon. She's going to stick with this guy. There's going to be more chaos. More kids. These kids are going to experience more chaos. Then the kids are going to start spinning out. Then they're going to become our problem because they're going to get into drugs, they're going to get into crime, they're going to get into prostitution, and then they become society's problems. We as a society are not interested in addressing this at all. Everyone close your eyes and picture an election year where anything was even touched on even closely. About the closest those pussies ever get to anything is no child left behind, which doesn't mean ass to anybody. It's just an antiquated sort of ism that just sounds nice. It doesn't mean anything. It's like saying no to drugs. That's the best you idiots could do. Say no to drugs, no child left behind. Is that your plan? What's your plan for terrorism? Knock it off? Yeah. You know what I mean? No, you got to fire up the Hummer and get the hell over there and start kicking some ass. Here come up the plan. You can't just go ahead and do the right thing, you junkies. Go ahead and do the right thing, you abuse survivors. It makes me sick. I mean, I understand there's going to be Angela.

28:27 Drew You know, A, first of all, everything happens for a reason.

28:28 Adam Everything happens for a reason.

28:29 Drew B, you got to choose to get over these things.

28:31 Adam Yeah. I just wonder about the people that guide this country. I just wonder why it's never an issue, why it's never addressed. So it's almost taboo to delve into anything that has any relevance at all. Unless it's just some worn out cliché you want to crap out onto a microphone by saying, no child let behind. Yeah, I believe that everything, but my ass. Go do something about it.

28:56 James Van Praagh It's all surface.

28:57 Adam It's all, it's nothing. And we just gobble it up like catfish dragging along the bottom.

29:02 Drew It's not so much we gobble that stuff up, but we're aversive to anything else.

29:05 Adam Yes.

29:06 James Van Praagh We're fearful of it. And I also think people don't want to take responsibility. So it's much easier just saying these things and not doing the action that need it. It's needed.

29:13 Adam Well, yeah. I mean, of course, of course, everyone's a mess. I just, I just, I just really blame the folks that are in charge who should be making creating decisions and creating forces that affect this so that our future, so our kid doesn't get stabbed by her kid.

29:29 James Van Praagh But you know, then also Adam, she has a choice to make. So it's up to her. I mean, yeah, we can blame the government. But it comes down to her too now.

29:36 Adam No, yeah, I don't want to say I blame the government. And she does have a choice. But here's the deal. When a large percentage of the population has a choice, and they're all making the wrong choice, then we got to intervene. Because we left it up to them to make a choice, and they made a bad choice. It's like saying, don't lock your store door. Leave the store open at night. People have a choice. No, no, bolt it up.

29:58 Drew If you don't, we're going to have to see what we do.

30:00 Adam Yeah, get on the roof like a Korean. That 30 at 6. That's his choice. All right. Here we go. Let's take a break. Yeah.

30:07 Caller James.

30:09 Adam You're killing me. Powerful way.

30:11 James Van Praagh You're killing me.

30:12 Adam Powerful gun. James Van Praagh is here tonight. Got a little show called The Ghost Whisperer. I, it's funny that the mind works. My wife just told me, speaking of a psychic, she says, you got to get that dog whisperer on the show. She blurts out tonight for no good reason. And I was like, I don't want that idiot on the show for sure. We got to find out what Molly's thinking. What's my dog? I said, I know what Molly's thinking. Molly's barking at nothing and smelling her ass and eating everything that falls on the ground. What do you mean she's not thinking anything? We got to find out what she's thinking. Like there's a human trapped inside the dog. That's how women think, by the way. Find out, Molly, see, we got to find out what you're thinking. Get the chick whisper. See if we can find out what's going on in the spines of theirs. Find out what the dog's thinking. Dog's got a brain size of an acorn. Doesn't think about anything. Doesn't even... That dog thinks you're a dog who walks on his back legs. And drives a car.

31:13 He's thinking. I can't get the...

31:16 Adam I drive the car down the drive and the dog sleeps in front of the car. I honk the horn. It doesn't even look at me. It's not thinking, obviously.

31:23 Drew Well, it must be thinking something else.

31:24 James Van Praagh I think it's something.

31:26 Adam There's a big metal cow that's rolling toward you. What do you think? The large horn. All right, let's take a break. We'll be right back after this.

31:44 James Van Praagh Loveline is brought to you by the American Legacy Foundation. It's free, it's informative, it's powerful, it's true.

32:29 Adam That's Dr. Drew James Van Praagh is here tonight. He's got himself a little book called Looking Beyond, Teen's Guide to the Spiritual World. I'm guessing.

32:39 James Van Praagh I have a website, people. I want to check it out.

32:41 Adam Oh, yeah. You just go to www.vanpraagh.com. Van Praagh is P-R-A-A-G-H. Yes.

32:52 James Van Praagh Hello to everybody in my chat room who's listening. I have a huge international chat room.

32:55 Adam Oh, I'll bet.

32:56 James Van Praagh Free chat. Things free.

32:58 Adam Yeah. It's the one thing.

32:58 James Van Praagh The service I give out to people who want to go to some of our grieving and just talk to people.

33:04 Adam Yeah. Now, how much? See, I'm an atheist. When somebody dies, I just grieve. Let's bring a lot of comfort to people to think. Oh, they're there, they're happy, they're doing great.

33:17 James Van Praagh A lot of people said to me, I was going to commit suicide and I read many books and I decided not to. So that makes it a word.

33:22 Adam What happens when you commit suicide?

33:24 James Van Praagh It depends on the suicide. It depends on the motive behind it. So for instance, if your stock went down on Intel and you decide to kill yourself, it's a lot different than someone who has a brain chemistry disorder.

33:35 Adam Oh, interesting.

33:36 James Van Praagh Interesting. There are, yes, you know. So Tom Cruise was wrong about that. I know.

33:42 Adam You get off your meds and you have an episode and you kill yourself. It's not looked at as the same way as you wanting to pay back your girlfriend.

33:52 James Van Praagh Right. Exactly. Exactly.

33:55 Adam All right.

33:56 James Van Praagh The worst part of suicide, this is very interesting. One of my readings that years ago, and I used to do private readings. A lady came to me and I didn't know anything about her. I said, there's a man here, her son. I said, he's showing me and it was really, really weird. He actually showed me and I actually was almost like experiencing as he was showing it to me, putting a rope around a tree around his neck, hung himself, popped out of his body. First thing he says, I can't say it on the air, but, oh, what did I do? I tried to get back in. He couldn't get back in. The next thing he said, what did I do to my parents? Then he felt really bad about the people left behind. That's common. People will find after the people left behind, that's the guilt comes in then.

34:31 Drew This is like you're jumping up the bridge story.

34:34 James Van Praagh Yeah.

34:34 Adam I was watching a show on Discovery or something, and they interviewed about the three or four people that actually lived after attempting to commit suicide by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. The Golden Gate Bridge, they kill like a thousand people a year or something. It's like thousands of people dying. But every once in a while, for some reason or another, somebody makes it, and whenever they interview the person, they say the first thing that I thought when I jumped, as soon as I was two feet from the ledge, first thing I thought was, why did I do it?

35:05 James Van Praagh Yeah. Bad idea.

35:06 Adam Bad idea, which is a horrible way to spend the last 150 feet of your life. You know what I mean?

35:13 James Van Praagh Exactly.

35:14 Adam Yeah. See, that's why when I kill myself, I go drugs and carbon monoxide because you don't have, why did I do it? You're just looking at a reflection of yourself in the mirror going, kick your ass, dude.

35:29 James Van Praagh Then there are people here on this earth who can't handle it. I mean, I think there are some people that come back before their time or they have too much on their plate and they just can't handle it.

35:36 Adam Yeah.

35:36 James Van Praagh A lot of people say, I don't feel like in the right time or something's not right about things. I find that's a lot of people who come back before their time.

35:43 Adam Wow. All right. Well, there's a question for James over here. Becky, who's 26. Becky?

35:50 James Van Praagh Yeah. Hi, Adam.

35:51 Adam What's up?

35:53 James Van Praagh Well, I actually lost my dad a few years ago, and I was wondering if James could tell me anything. I've read all of your books, James. I think you're fantastic.

36:04 James Van Praagh Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I'm not necessarily doing readings like that tonight because I have to prepare myself.

36:10 Drew But how do you prepare yourself?

36:12 James Van Praagh I meditate beforehand quite a bit.

36:14 Adam Okay. Internet. Get some dirt on the host. So, yeah.

36:20 James Van Praagh It's like you got to prepare yourself in a receptive space. And in this environment, it's hard to do.

36:25 Adam Well, let me ask you.

36:26 James Van Praagh Like Howard Stern, I didn't do readings either.

36:32 Adam Let me ask you this. Is there, first off, do you ever just go to read somebody and nothing's coming?

36:38 James Van Praagh Definitely.

36:39 Drew I was the same type of stuff, just pop in sometimes.

36:40 James Van Praagh Exactly. Exactly. I'll be sitting with someone in a store and something comes in. I was working out with a trainer once and I said, some lady's here named Ellen, she's over at Atlanta, an oatmeal. So that's my grandmother, she raised me. She's feeding the oatmeal every morning. I said, would you please, it's my paying for this training session. It's my time here.

36:57 Adam Yeah.

36:57 James Van Praagh But it just pops in your head. You'll be driving your car.

37:00 Drew Do you see something or it's just a thought?

37:02 James Van Praagh It comes in different ways. I'll see a vision or I'll feel something or I'll hear thoughts in my head. Thoughts like we have, like I have to go to the store and buy milk or whatever. It's like those thoughts come through like that. So it depends on how they're going to send it to me.

37:13 Drew When you see stuff, what do you see?

37:14 James Van Praagh Flashes. Like flashes. I'll see a face or I'll see a scene of something, or I'll see the type of some clothes they're wearing or a tattoo or whatever it is. When I'm known as a survival evidence medium, which means I bring through my jobs, I bring through evidential details, names, places, events that no one knows about, which proves survival of consciousness.

37:32 Adam What about police work?

37:33 James Van Praagh I used to do work with police all over the country. I used to work with government agencies. I stopped doing that. I did kidnap cases. I was specializing in that. One day, I couldn't take it because I saw this guy had this three-year-old girl in his car and I saw it very clearly, and he put his hand over and slapped her in the car. He was like, whoa. Then I saw him kill her with a shovel, hit her over the head, and then buried her. That's the last one I did. I couldn't do that.

37:57 Adam Did they find her?

37:58 James Van Praagh It was years and years ago. I don't know if they did not. I don't remember. It was down near Louisiana somewhere.

38:05 Adam That is the one part about the whole thing that gives it validity is the ones that actually work with the cops, which is a weird line. Oftentimes, it usually seems like women tell the cops where the body is or what's going on. Nine times out of ten, it's near a river, no ass. What do you think? It's in the middle of the Macy's? It's always near a river.

38:31 James Van Praagh It's when you give street names.

38:32 Adam Yeah, I want to hear street names. Yeah, it's by a rock. There's a tree. It's in the river. Yeah, I didn't bury them on the top of a Winnebago that's parked in a parking lot. They drag them out to the wherever, but they use these people.

38:45 James Van Praagh All the time, but you don't hear it all the time, but you will never hear a police agency or government agency say they use psychics. You will never hear it because they won't admit it, but they use them, I'd say, a good 80 percent of the time. They can't get anywhere with their cases, they'll call someone up. Aruba right now, they had like five or six people they called.

39:00 Adam Oh, really?

39:01 James Van Praagh Oh, yeah.

39:01 If you go down there, do you have any thoughts about it?

39:03 James Van Praagh No, I didn't want to do it.

39:03 Drew Do you have any thoughts about it?

39:05 James Van Praagh Yeah. She's buried in the water.

39:08 Adam Buried?

39:09 Drew I mean like sunk in the water.

39:10 James Van Praagh No, she's cemented with chains and cement, she's in the water.

39:13 Adam Oh, really? They weighted her down. They're draining the ocean? I think they're draining the Arubian Ocean.

39:19 Drew Are you sure? Are you sure she has cement attached to her or she's in cement?

39:23 James Van Praagh No, no, no. She's chained down. The legs are-

39:25 Drew You decompose, you fall apart though, right?

39:27 Adam Well, she's not been in that long.

39:29 James Van Praagh They'll find. I think they're going to eventually find her. But I think they know where to put her. I think it's like in a cove area. Yeah.

39:35 Adam Corpses are weird things. It's like, yeah, we cased her in cement, threw her on the bottom of Lake Huron. It's like, yeah, then she popped up.

39:45 James Van Praagh What?

39:47 Adam I swear people swim better when they're dead. I swear to Christ, Drew.

39:52 Drew They get to shore more often. They make it to shore.

39:55 Adam There's always some guys doing some shore fishing, finds the body, they hacked them up, they weighted them down, they went 30 miles off, they cut them up, boom, the person's back. You know what I mean? You wouldn't think it would be that tall in order to get rid of a corpse. A corpse is five foot seven by 18 inches wide, and there's plenty of land, there's plenty of sea, there's plenty of lakes, there's plenty of woods. They show up. You know what I mean?

40:20 James Van Praagh You got to know where to hide them.

40:22 Drew I don't know.

40:23 James Van Praagh I mean, local people would know, especially if they're fishing all the time. No, I don't have a sense if we did it. I know it's people right there, local.

40:31 Drew Local.

40:31 James Van Praagh Yeah. But it's the people who knew the island, who knew what to do, and I think it was, in a way, accidental kind of thing. It wasn't meant to happen. It was-

40:38 Drew They freaked out.

40:39 James Van Praagh They freaked out. She was not completely innocent, I feel.

40:43 Adam Well, that's why. This happens. People get loaded. I think what happens is-

40:47 James Van Praagh I think it happens more than we hear about it, too.

40:49 Adam Oh, yes. I think what happens is they slip the chick a roofie, or they just get them loaded, they put something in their drink, they feed them drugs, they pass for some illegal stuff involved.

41:00 James Van Praagh They OD or something happens.

41:01 Adam Even though it's not out and out rape, there's a little strong arming involved. Next thing you know, chick's heart stops beating, somebody freaks out, realizes they're gonna find roofies in her system, they're gonna find a little rough trade and got my hand on her neck. I'm freaking out. I'm effed up. The person's effed up. Now think about it. The person is loaded. They're not in the right mind because they just had an orgasm. At that point, it's like, Christ, I gotta eat a pizza. I gotta get out of here. You know what I mean? You don't even want to be with the people who are alive after your orgasm. As you're hanging with dead people.

41:34 Drew Yeah.

41:35 Adam It's like, I gotta get the eff out of here. You're not out of your mind. It's like, I'll throw in a lake or something. Last thing I want to do is call the cops and wait down here and deal.

41:44 James Van Praagh I think it was a bunch of three or four guys. I think two guys are messed up. I think there were other people they called friends or even relatives. Right. They dealt with it. That's what I think.

41:52 Adam All right. Well, let me say bye to Becky. Becky?

41:54 James Van Praagh Yeah. Hi.

41:55 James Van Praagh Hey, Becky, one thing I can tell you, pay attention to your dreams. The most common way that spirits communicate with their loved ones is through dream state.

42:02 James Van Praagh Yeah. I was wondering, how can you tell the difference between like contact and wishful thinking when you have dreams?

42:07 James Van Praagh Well, it depends on the content of what comes through, what kind of information comes through.

42:10 James Van Praagh Usually, it's like in the dream, I know that he's dead and I'm really excited to be like-

42:14 James Van Praagh It feels more than a dream. Like when we have dreams, I call them crossovers of spirit, it feels more than a dream. It feels like there's an essence there. There's something very real about it. Very different than a regular type of dream.

42:23 James Van Praagh Okay.

42:25 Adam All right, Becky. Thank you.

42:26 James Van Praagh Okay, Becky. Thank you.

42:27 Adam If you drink malt liquor before you go to sleep, it really helps the antenna. I'll try that. Yeah, clear things up.

42:33 James Van Praagh You draw those lower level things to you.

42:35 Adam But I'm more receptive. I end up talking to black people, actually. It's awesome. I had a Uncle Lucius that passed away I didn't even know about. Did I tell you about him?

42:44 Drew No. But awesome story.

42:46 Adam Awesome story.

42:47 James Van Praagh Did anyone know? Great man.

42:48 Adam Didn't even know. Yeah. Well, great. We'll take a quick break. James Van Praagh is here tonight. We'll be right back after this.

42:59 James Van Praagh Thank you for calling Loveline. Your call will be answered in the order it seems interesting.

43:04 Call 1-800-LOVE-191.

43:29 Adam Yeah, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, 1-800-LOVE-191, James Van Praagh is here tonight. Drew, riddled James with questions during the break. I'm not going to write this fat red book unless people are going to read it. I'm going to need some guarantee.

43:43 Drew Tired of our list of not reading my books.

43:45 Adam James is like, you got to follow your heart. I have that. I got to make some money.

43:50 Caller If I write this book, I'm going to read it.

43:51 Drew I don't want to waste my time, people are going to read it.

43:53 Adam I read between the monetary lines there. James, write him a note, a promissory note saying that someone will read his book. More than eight people will read the book this time if he writes a big fat book too. You make a movie. Drew, do you understand? You're asking James to guarantee you that someone would read your book, otherwise you weren't going to write it.

44:11 Drew I know.

44:13 Adam You're a man of science. It's wrong with you. Just write the book. James said from the heart, you could help.

44:19 James Van Praagh That's right.

44:19 Drew I did that.

44:20 Adam What if you help?

44:20 Drew You didn't even read that one.

44:22 Caller Which one?

44:24 Adam What if you helped one person, Drew?

44:27 Drew I did that book.

44:28 Adam When are you going to? What book did you write? What book was that?

44:30 Drew Cracked.

44:31 Adam Cracked. When's that coming out? I'm going to read that book.

44:35 Drew Yes, you are.

44:36 Adam When that baby comes out, I'm going to read that baby. All right. When it comes out on cassette form, that's when I'm going to read it.

44:42 Drew I'll talk to you.

44:42 Adam Lola?

44:44 Yes.

44:44 Adam You're 20?

44:46 Caller Yeah.

44:46 Adam What's going on?

44:48 Caller Okay. Well, I'm a dancer, and I've been a dancer for about a year now, and I'm a pretty sexual person. I like to have sex, like, you know, often, like, you know, sometimes like twice a day, and I'm living with this guy, and he's not really my boyfriend. We were boyfriend and girlfriend a long time ago, and then we broke up, and then we moved back in together, and we tried it, and the relationship thing didn't work. Now we're basically just kind of screwing each other. And for the last two weeks, I haven't been able to have sex, and it's not like that I just can't, I just don't want to.

45:28 Drew Are you wanting medication?

45:29 Caller No, I have an IUD, but I don't think that would affect anything. I've had it for a year, and it's never really bothered me.

45:35 Drew No, I don't want to do anything.

45:36 Adam All right, well look, here's the thing.

45:37 Drew You haven't started some antibiotics or anything?

45:39 Caller Nothing.

45:40 Adam Well, look, you don't have a relationship with this guy, and eventually women sort of dry up sexually.

45:46 Drew Shut down, yeah.

45:46 Adam Yeah, that doesn't work for women long-term.

45:49 Caller I mean, it's always worked for me before. I mean, I've been with people before that I didn't have an actual relationship with.

45:54 Adam Yeah, you've been with them nine times, but not for a year and a half.

45:57 Drew I also bet that, in fact, given that you're a stripper and stuff, we could expect that the trauma history is there and whatnot. And what happens when you're that kind of person is when you actually start feeling close to somebody, that's when you no longer can feel sexual. The sexual part of yourself is sort of split off as something bad, that you have to be with a bad boy in order to feel sexual, but when he starts becoming somebody you actually care about, even though he's not a boyfriend, but you actually kind of get a little close to him, you shut down.

46:23 James Van Praagh It's healthier.

46:24 Drew Right, that's right, you can't stand that. Also-

46:26 Caller That's like 90% of the reason that we're not dating. We tried the relationship thing, and then I stopped having sex with him, and I was like, you know, I can't have sex. And it freaked him out, and he was like, well, is there something wrong with me? Am I doing something wrong? And I was like, no. I said, you know, why don't we just take a break now? I said, you go.

46:43 Drew No, you're freaking out. You're too close to him, Loveline. Your dad was an abusive a-hole.

46:46 Adam Yeah, this is not gonna work, Loveline.

46:48 Drew Well, maybe, maybe. She's in the verge of breaking through.

46:50 Adam Well, she's not into the, I mean, he's not into the relationship that way.

46:53 Drew No, no, he is. He just couldn't handle it without the sex.

46:56 Adam Well.

46:56 Caller Well, I mean, he is, and he's trying his best. Like, he hasn't been out sleeping with anybody. He hasn't had any girls over, you know. Wow.

47:05 Drew So Walter Wally is living with him.

47:06 It's nice.

47:08 Adam Chivalry is not dead. He's banging them out on the porch. He's not bringing them into the house.

47:12 Drew That's nice.

47:13 Adam Awesome.

47:13 Drew All right, look, I suggest, I recommend you try to hang in and maybe recommit to this and try to be sexual with this guy and go with those feelings and see what happens.

47:21 Adam All right, but let me say this. The whole part about the friends with benefits, the maintenance program, whatever. Well, who breaks it off? The woman. If it were up to guys, these things would go on for 30 years. It would never end. It's like no commitment, just regular out of this world sex. The average shelf life of these things is about a month and a half. It would be two decades if it was up to guys, women stop this. That's what I'm saying. James Van Praagh is here and I know it's a short break. We're pushed up against the top of the hour. We'll be back for a big long one though after this.

47:59 Drew All right, guys, here's the deal.

48:00 Caller Look in the hook up, call the Dateline.

48:39 Adam Hey, everybody. I was going to paint, but now I'm not going to. James Van Praagh is here tonight. James has himself a show. Well, he's the executive producer of a show called The Ghost Whisper, which stars Jennifer Love Hewitt and Isha Tyler. Wouldn't care which one of them I got, you know?

49:00 Drew I know.

49:01 James Van Praagh If you want to come on a set, we can arrange that.

49:03 Adam I'd like to do that. Yeah.

49:05 Drew They've started filming.

49:06 Adam Yeah.

49:07 James Van Praagh We started this week.

49:08 Drew Wow.

49:08 Adam Oh, really? I haven't seen the promo.

49:10 James Van Praagh We took over Back to the Future Square, Universal. We took that over. It's our village.

49:15 Adam Friday at 8 o'clock on CBS. When? It's Friday. September. It's starting this fall. Yeah. James, executive producer. Also, you can go to www.vanpraagh.com and find out what you want about James and communicate with him, not through telepathy, but through typing, which is actually more difficult for me.

49:39 James Van Praagh We have every Tuesday night we have guest speakers and this sort of thing.

49:42 Adam All right. You have an international audience.

49:44 James Van Praagh International all over the place.

49:45 Adam Looking Beyond, which is a book James has penned as well.

49:49 James Van Praagh Which I'm going to give away five of them.

49:51 Adam Who, what area, what region, what part of the world besides, I don't know, Haiti do you think is the most spiritual?

50:00 James Van Praagh Australia and Brazil. Brazil is incredible. I've been to Brazil seven times and they take this for granted.

50:05 Adam Most open for this stuff?

50:07 James Van Praagh Most open. They don't think, they feel. Our country, they think too much. We don't feel as much. In Brazil, they feel.

50:14 Caller They feel.

50:15 James Van Praagh It's very true. In Australia, wild bunch of people. I swear they got to be alien. I swear they got to be alien.

50:20 Adam Well, they're drunk, but Brazilians, they're just drunk. But Brazilians are spiritual. Australians are drunk.

50:27 James Van Praagh I've seen things in Brazil you would not believe. It's just incredible. Incredible things in Brazil. Like what do you mean? Psychic surgery, the man of God. Have you heard about that guy down there?

50:37 Adam Is that true? Does that work? I see stuff on that every once in a while.

50:43 James Van Praagh I experienced something which was really wild. I'm being very skeptical. I went down there, I was very open-minded, and I had just gotten over an ulcer in my stomach, and I went to the spiritual center there, and I was in a room with like 200 people, and they knew nothing about me. They said, come here, and the surgeon, psychic surgeon went right to the area where it was. They didn't say a thing, and did something with his hand, it was bleeding, whatever, it looked for chicken parts.

51:07 Adam It was bleeding.

51:08 James Van Praagh Well, it was blood plasma, there was something going on. I was looking for chicken parts, I was looking for anything, I couldn't see anything. It went right to the area and-

51:15 Adam What was on your skin after he removed his hand?

51:18 James Van Praagh Someone pinched it, like that sort of thing, so there was a mark that remained, but there was also some plasma type of stuff.

51:24 Adam Right, and then what?

51:25 James Van Praagh Reddish water. And that was it. I never had a problem with an ulcer after that. Never went off my meds, it was fine and there was nothing wrong after that.

51:33 Adam But isn't a lot of the cause of the ulcer, your condition, your mental condition?

51:37 James Van Praagh A lot of things. Well, it's digestion, it's mental things, a lot of things.

51:40 Adam But if you think somebody fixed your problem, maybe they did, if it's an ulcer.

51:44 James Van Praagh If it worked, that's what happened.

51:47 Adam Drew, what do you think? You're a man of science. You were a man of science before you started picking James Brayne about your book. You've been demoted.

51:54 Drew That's possible. It's possible that it's a placebo effect, I'm sure.

51:58 Adam Well, I don't know, ulcer.

52:00 Drew Yeah.

52:00 Adam It's not going to get rid of a tumor.

52:02 Drew Right.

52:02 James Van Praagh There's a place, Abagiani in Brazil, which is in Brasilia, and there's a man of God. Primetime Live did a whole thing on him.

52:08 Adam Yeah, I saw that.

52:08 James Van Praagh You saw that?

52:09 Adam Yeah.

52:09 James Van Praagh I met the guy, it was wild. This is the guy I'm telling you about, it was wild. It was years ago, like 10 years ago, I went down to see him.

52:15 Adam His title was Man of God?

52:17 James Van Praagh Yeah.

52:17 Adam Because I'm going for Vicar of Christ. I want you to call it a Vicar.

52:22 James Van Praagh You got it.

52:22 Adam I got the Vicar.

52:23 James Van Praagh Got the Vicar.

52:24 Adam Yeah. I didn't copyright it. It would be awesome. It would be great publicity. The Pope, the Vatican forgets to copyright. You get it. Trademark Vicar of Christ. So I do it and I register it and now I sue the Pope for using Vicar of Christ. They sue the Vatican. I close. How quickly would I be shot, by the way, by all the religious ones? Like here's a great. How long would take a good religious person to put a bullet in my head? Think about that. Yeah, I trademarked the Vicar of Christ. No, Pope can't use it. You understand? Or if he does, I get 10 bucks every time. Yeah, that's all. He makes an appearance. Durex. That's all I have. Oh, Durex. Oh, yeah. Speaking of money that we don't get paid. One lucky person tonight will win the Durex Party Pack. Now what you get with this Party Pack is you get CDs, you get a poker set, you get money, and you get some Durex condoms. So you got the weekend all hashed out. Each night this week, I'm going to decide. Drew, you remind me because I'll forget. James, you could do that too. Best call the night and they're going to win the Party Pack. Winner must be 18 years older. Brought to you by Durex. There's sex and then there's Durex. All right. Now, let's talk to Nita, 59, a little out of our demo. We're open, aren't we, sweet spirit? What's up, Nita?

53:42 Caller Hello. Yes, I'd like to know if you have any messages for my son, Dissy's son.

53:47 James Van Praagh What's his name?

53:48 Caller David.

53:49 Adam David. He passed away?

53:51 Caller Yes, two years ago.

53:52 Adam What happened?

53:54 Caller He was pushed off a cliff.

53:57 James Van Praagh By a friend?

53:58 Caller Yes.

53:59 Caller As far as we know.

54:00 James Van Praagh Well, I think it was a friend or someone that knew him, I feel. And I feel there was some kind of drinking or something. It feels like drinking or drugs because it's like his head space seems very screwed up. I feel very, again, putting you through this sort of thing with him. There's a dog over there with him.

54:23 Caller A dog?

54:24 James Van Praagh A dog. Was there a dog that was lost? A family dog years before that he knew of?

54:31 Caller Yes.

54:31 James Van Praagh Because there's a dog there with him. That's what I'm picking up.

54:34 Caller Okay.

54:35 Adam You get to bring your pets?

54:36 Caller Yeah.

54:37 James Van Praagh Hello, they survive.

54:39 Adam My wife's going to be through the roof.

54:40 Caller I realize Myla can join her after I kill her for driving me insane.

54:45 James Van Praagh I'm feeling sorry, sorry, sorry from him. I feel a sense of being very sorry. Doesn't want you to be upset about him because he's alive, he's not dead.

54:53 Caller Okay.

54:55 James Van Praagh Why do you still have this big thing in your living room about him with this picture and this whole monumental thing going on there?

55:00 Caller Yes, I do.

55:01 James Van Praagh There's a religion involved here too. I feel like candles and religious and I feel like flowers and you put the flowers all the time.

55:08 Caller Yes.

55:09 James Van Praagh You understand that? It's like in the pictures and he's like enough with the pictures, he's all right, enough with the pictures. Enough with the photographs.

55:14 Adam What do you want to do with the shrine?

55:15 James Van Praagh You've got to forgive the father. You've got to forgive his father, he said. You understand that?

55:19 Caller Okay.

55:20 James Van Praagh Do you understand that with the father?

55:21 Caller No, I'm not sure about that.

55:23 James Van Praagh There's something about his father. You've got to forgive his father or his father's feeling not right.

55:27 Adam Where's the dad? Is it you guys still, yeah?

55:30 James Van Praagh Are you not together?

55:31 Caller Yeah. We live together. Yeah, he's my husband.

55:33 Drew Have you been blaming the dad?

55:35 Caller No.

55:36 James Van Praagh Was this a sense of emotionally, like you're separated emotionally?

55:40 Caller A little bit, yes.

55:42 Adam All right. Well, how old, and did you say your son was 15 when he passed away?

55:47 Caller No, 23.

55:48 Adam Oh, 23. All right. And what was the story? What did happen?

55:53 Caller Well, he was with a friend at his apartment and they had been drinking and they, there was a 23-foot, or a 40-foot cliff or something off the back of their apartment. And the boy, the other friend of his apparently climbed the fence and my son was talking on the cell phone to his girlfriend and he says, oh my God, he says, Chris is on the other side of the fence. So apparently he went to join him and to try to talk to him to come back to get, you know, because there was only, there was a five-foot ledge there before the drop off into Lake Erie. And as far as we can tell, his friend said that, his friend told us that he, that the friend fell first, he slipped and he never saw our son again, but our son was missing for six days and they-

56:38 James Van Praagh He survived, the friend survived though.

56:39 Caller The friend survived, yeah.

56:40 James Van Praagh Yeah, I got to say there was a fight beforehand. There was some kind of an argument and a fight. I'm telling you, I see it. And I feel very much like a push. I feel like there was an argument.

56:47 Adam Well, so the friend went into Lake Erie?

56:50 Caller Well, the friend didn't quite go in. He ended up on the ledge and broke some bones, but her son apparently fell into Lake Erie.

56:57 James Van Praagh Were they fighting over a girl?

56:58 Caller No, no, they each had separate girlfriends.

57:00 James Van Praagh Well, did the girlfriends know each other?

57:03 Caller No.

57:05 James Van Praagh See, there's some connection.

57:05 Adam How does that work? The roommates have girlfriends that don't know each other.

57:08 James Van Praagh There's some connection. No, there's some connection. I'm telling you right now.

57:11 Adam Well, look.

57:13 James Van Praagh He's around you. There's no such thing as death. So believe it or not, he's around you. You've got to send him some love. I feel like he feels very guilty about how he left like that and left you that way. And I just get a sense that he wants you to live. You have to live your life.

57:25 Adam Would they ever bring any charges against a roommate or anything like that?

57:28 Caller No, they felt it was accidental.

57:31 Adam You don't feel that way?

57:33 Caller No.

57:33 James Van Praagh No, I don't think so either.

57:35 Caller Not at all.

57:36 James Van Praagh I wrote a book which had a habit called Healing Grief. It's a very good book about people who lose children and people who lose partners and the parents. It would really help you. There's exercise in there. You have to say grief. You have the grief, okay. So that'll help you.

57:49 Drew How come mediums don't ever talk to people when they're saying, hey, I want you to kill yourself. Come over and join me.

57:54 James Van Praagh Not the right thing to do.

57:56 Drew I wish you'd come over here and join me. No one ever says that.

57:58 Adam No, you miss your mom, there's a way to reunite.

58:02 Drew Come join me with the dog.

58:04 Adam Yeah, that'd be my thing.

58:05 James Van Praagh No, because that's not the right thing to do. Because they have to live their life out. I mean, we're here for a reason. We're here for as long as we're supposed to be here.

58:10 Adam I know, but the person that passed over may want to be reunited with a girlfriend or something.

58:13 James Van Praagh There's also a difference in your outlook on life and death when you pass out of the physical dimension. There's a whole different way of looking at it.

58:21 Adam I imagine the pressure's off. You know what I mean?

58:24 James Van Praagh A little bit, but then you create some more pressure with the way you live your life. If you didn't live your life a good way, if it's a very bad way, you have to judge yourself and go through the hole.

58:33 Adam Am I going to have to take Ambien when I'm on the other side?

58:35 James Van Praagh There'll be help for you.

58:37 Adam I just don't want to stress out on the other side.

58:39 James Van Praagh You won't.

58:40 Adam I want to relax. I want my TiVo. Drew, you got to kill my TiVo and send it with me. You understand?

58:46 Drew It's like El Cabong. It'll just hit you over the head with it.

58:47 Adam With the TiVo? We'll both go?

58:49 Drew Yeah.

58:50 James Van Praagh I'm with you. I love my TiVo.

58:51 Adam I'll be walking around the TiVo attaching my head. It'll be awesome. All right. Don't program it. I'll handle that.

58:57 Drew He had it with a big TiVo.

58:59 Adam Yeah.

59:00 Drew Like a satellite over his head.

59:02 Adam Almost had a little TiVo trouble the other night. Wife was out of town for a couple of days, so I was cruising through Playboy. Found Viva Ron Jeremy in Las Vegas. I decided to do that. Forgot about it and then noticed it was still floating around today.

59:18 Drew She got home?

59:19 Adam No, no. I found it. I found it first. Point is, you got to watch out that TiVo, that's a diary for dudes. You know what I mean? That's your diary. But we know exactly what you're up to and what you're into. You bust into a single guy who's got a TiVo. Oh man. I'll read you like a book. You don't have to be James Van Praagh to find out what's going on.

59:38 Drew Give James some props for the living room with the flowers and the pictures.

59:42 Adam No, who doesn't do that? Everybody does that. Look, here's the deal, James. I'm going to put my skeptical hat on. People that make these kinds of phone calls are the kinds of people that have the shrines. When you grieve, that's what you have.

59:59 James Van Praagh That's not true because there are people that don't want to see it, think about it, or know about it, and they put everything out of their house. I mean, I've had all different types of people.

1:00:05 Adam One out of 10, but nine out of 10, and you play the odds. Nine out of 10 are going to have the shrine.

1:00:10 Caller We can rationalize anything we want.

1:00:12 Adam Well, I just mean the shrine thing, and the parent blaming the roommate. Always the grieving parent is going to blame whoever's nearest to the son. Son got drunk, son climbed over the fence, to a degree son jumped over the thing, or fell over the thing, or whatever. They're always going to blame whoever was around, the son.

1:00:31 James Van Praagh Mostly, what I find mostly, Adam, they blame themselves.

1:00:34 Adam Well, that too, possibly.

1:00:35 James Van Praagh Like, I have a situation where the kid dies in a car crash, and the parent was like, I knew they shouldn't have driven that car. I should have said, there's nothing you could have done. There's nothing you could have done. I mean, what could you do? Stand there in front of the car? You can't do that.

1:00:45 Adam Well, here's the other-

1:00:46 James Van Praagh That's a common thing that they feel guilty, too.

1:00:49 Adam Here's the thing. Well, a couple of things. First off, here's the thing. Whenever, I believe, whenever somebody leaves for the airport, comes back to the airport, gets in a car for a long drive, goes out to do, I'm going to go do some hiking or something. Everyone has a flash in their head of, oh my goodness, oh my goodness. But-

1:01:11 James Van Praagh What if?

1:01:12 Adam What if? But it rarely comes to fruition. Then once in a blue moon, the unthinkable happens and it does, and the person says, I knew it. But what you don't realize is you had that flash. There's not a time-

1:01:25 James Van Praagh I think things- So let's look at it this way. One of the things happen, maybe part of who you are, you can see things before they happen. So maybe outside of the three-dimensional world, there's no such thing as time. So a part of you is there, so you can see the future, the past, the present. You know what I'm saying? Maybe that's a flash.

1:01:40 Adam I'm saying just the opposite, which is I don't think there's a time you drop your wife off or your kids off at the airport and don't have a flash of, let's hope they arrive safely, and a little flash of the unthinkable flash. Then if it does happen, the person says, aha.

1:01:57 Drew I knew it.

1:01:58 Adam I knew it. They don't realize the other 100 times they dropped me at the airport, they had that thought too. Now, you obviously have more than that.

1:02:06 James Van Praagh But there's a difference in that. So for instance, most common intuition things, people think about someone five minutes later, the phone rings, it's that person they were thinking about. So what is that? Is that a coincidence or is that intuitive? I think it's part of an intuitive communication, telepathic communication, whatever you want to call it, there's something going on there.

1:02:22 Adam Yeah, well, I also believe that your mind can sort of send you reminders without sending you reminders, like you should, you haven't heard from this person in a while, wait a minute, the person owed me a phone call from yesterday, there's little sort of prompters that are involved.

1:02:41 James Van Praagh So there's thought involved.

1:02:43 Adam There's thought involved.

1:02:44 James Van Praagh So you're sending out that thought. So let's not say, the other person might be able to pick up on that thought that you have, maybe they're picking up on it.

1:02:51 Adam Yeah. I sort of believe it's a mixture of things. There is that element and there's also an element of, if you go back and examine it, you'll realize, well, the person was on your mind because you were supposed to go out with them the day before and they didn't call and you were expecting it. There's those elements.

1:03:12 James Van Praagh Could be. I think it's all different things. I mean, you can't just put it into one little box. There's a lot of factors involved.

1:03:16 Adam Well, here's the thing. You're smart because whatever theories I have wouldn't make a goddamn penny if I wrote a book about it. That's the thing.

1:03:23 James Van Praagh But for you, that's how you look at it and that's your reality.

1:03:26 Adam I know. It's my penniless reality.

1:03:29 James Van Praagh Well, that's valid and you know.

1:03:31 Adam I know it's valid. It's just that there's no denomination that follows my validity. It sucks. Stephanie?

1:03:38 Hello.

1:03:39 Caller Yes.

1:03:39 Adam You're 29?

1:03:41 Caller Yes. Hi.

1:03:42 Caller How are you Adam?

1:03:43 Adam Yes, I'm good.

1:03:44 Caller You're so cool.

1:03:45 Adam Are you uncertain about your future?

1:03:47 Caller Yeah. I was just wondering if James could just kind of do a little psychic reading about just the future, my job he sees me going into.

1:03:58 Caller Okay.

1:03:58 James Van Praagh Just give me your name and your birthday.

1:04:01 Caller May 29th.

1:04:02 Caller Same as you Adam.

1:04:04 Adam I'm 27.

1:04:05 Caller May 25th, Stephanie.

1:04:07 James Van Praagh Stephanie is your name?

1:04:08 Adam Yes.

1:04:09 Caller May 29th, 19th.

1:04:10 Adam Are you going to junior college right now? Because I could give you a quick reading.

1:04:16 Drew Just based on that?

1:04:17 Adam All right.

1:04:18 James Van Praagh There's a move coming like a physical move, like a location of where you're living. There's definitely a change here, really strong. Generally speaking, but that's what I'm getting.

1:04:25 Adam Stupid because you live in San Francisco.

1:04:27 Caller Well, what about like insurance in my academic professional?

1:04:30 James Van Praagh 19 or 19?

1:04:32 Adam 29. 29.

1:04:37 James Van Praagh I just feel like there's a man, like a boss who's a male figure around you.

1:04:42 Caller Yeah, my boss is a male figure.

1:04:44 James Van Praagh I don't like him. I don't trust him. I don't like him. I feel like he has something else, like he's not giving you a complete truth, that there's something else going on. I also feel there's a co-worker on your same level, and that he looks at that person more than you for something else. I don't think you're going to stay there very long. I'd say like four months, and then you're out of there.

1:05:02 Adam Poor guy is screwed.

1:05:03 James Van Praagh But you also have two other things going on. What do you do at night? Is there like a night thing going on here? Like I think about doing some work at night or?

1:05:09 Caller No, actually, I don't work at night, but I study at nighttime.

1:05:12 James Van Praagh Because it's something at night, you're going to be doing like a temporary gig or something at night.

1:05:16 Adam What are you studying?

1:05:19 Caller I'm hoping to go into a pharmacy school.

1:05:22 Adam Oh, really? Well, your English is way too good to be a pharmacist. You couldn't work in Southern California. Yeah, I know, but you're Asian, but you have good English. You couldn't work out here. Here, if you want to come out to LA, the pay is great, but you have to not be able to understand the pharmacist. You understand? There's good Baltic Republics and things like that where people come from places I've never heard of. Armenia. Yeah, it's just crazy nationalities with no understanding whatsoever. The only thing you should be able to understand is when they're having conversations in their native tongue and I need my Ambien when they give me the stink eye, that's a universal thing. So Stephanie, don't move to Los Angeles, okay?

1:06:05 Caller Yeah.

1:06:06 James Van Praagh You're renting an apartment now?

1:06:08 Caller Yeah, I am.

1:06:09 James Van Praagh What's going on? Is there a problem there with the landlord or something, or something's not right with the apartment?

1:06:13 Caller Actually, it's working really well.

1:06:15 James Van Praagh Who lives in the corner? Do you live in a corner apartment? Is there a corner of the building you're in?

1:06:20 Caller It's actually a room.

1:06:22 James Van Praagh Yeah. There's something changing with that. I don't feel it's stable there. I don't feel there's a stability there. There's some of the landlord coming up too I don't like. Sorry, I'm just telling you what I get. That's what I feel. I also feel you got to stabilize your emotional self because I feel you're all over the place. I feel like you really want a relationship but it's not happening and you're not ready for it right now. But you got to know what you want. You're someone who doesn't know what you want in a relationship.

1:06:46 Adam Stephanie, what do you do during the day?

1:06:50 Caller I work as a pharmacy tech.

1:06:52 Adam How is your boss?

1:06:55 Caller Fine. I actually don't see him at all.

1:06:58 Adam How is his English? Is there any English at all?

1:07:02 Caller Perfect English.

1:07:03 Adam Perfect English. That's a second language show, right?

1:07:09 Caller No. English is the first language.

1:07:13 Adam Just a white guy who does pharmacy? Works as a pharmacist?

1:07:17 Drew See, I don't trust him.

1:07:18 Adam Yeah. That's why I shouldn't be. Stephanie, just regular guy, guy like just a white guy, is a pharmacist?

1:07:24 Caller Don't trust him?

1:07:26 Adam Well, what's his nationality?

1:07:28 Caller Caucasian.

1:07:29 Adam Really? Wow, I got to move up to San Francisco.

1:07:31 Drew He's not a real pharmacist.

1:07:32 Adam He's not a real pharmacist, shouldn't be trust. He's an imposter. Somewhere there's a Croatian guy, fat Croatian woman is tied up in the closet somewhere. Angry, surly, mid-50s, big calves, short hair, very angry, very angry. Is what? I get angry. That's what I get.

1:07:50 Drew He's what, Stephanie?

1:07:51 Adam He's what?

1:07:53 Caller What was that?

1:07:54 Adam Stephanie. All right. First off, either Stephanie does not have a good phone line or she doesn't track. Yeah.

1:08:02 James Van Praagh She's a pharmaceutical person. She's working.

1:08:04 Drew It could be the emotional thing that you're talking about. She may not be tracking well.

1:08:08 Adam Stephanie. Stephanie. Yeah. Are you hearing us clearly?

1:08:14 Caller Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm trying to. Hello?

1:08:19 Drew Well, that wasn't an answer. Are you hearing us clearly or not?

1:08:22 James Van Praagh It's easy to hear dead people.

1:08:24 Drew Now I am.

1:08:25 Adam She's going to make a great pharmacist. Because you're right. I'll tell you, in my evaluation, I evaluate pharmacists who work the LA area. I would be like, the English is a nine and that's going to hurt you. That's a strike. Your English is pretty good, which is bad. But your inability to track or understand what people are asking is strong. That's the hand you got to play. Very strong in that department. Then I would convene with the other people that didn't speak English and I would say, no, she's good. I would say, let's see if we could screw up the English a little bit more and focus on the part where you have no idea what the person in front of you is asking. Okay? Here's some good tips. When the person tells you how to spell their name, ask them six times. That's good. What's your last name? King? What is? King. See? No. And then get confused and then go answer the phone. That's it. Drew, what is it with pharmacists in this area?

1:09:22 Drew I don't know, but I've had that experience and when you're giving complex orders, it gets a little weird. Like, it's scary, really.

1:09:27 Adam Here's my feeling about pharmacists. We've worked this out, haven't we? They were doctors in their native land, wherever that is, but because of the language barrier, they can't do that here, but they're so highly educated that that's where they turn to. Yes? Or maybe they're just gobbling up the drugs.

1:09:47 James Van Praagh I have a good question for you. How much, Drew, do you find pharmaceutical companies influence doctors?

1:09:53 Drew I don't think as much as people think they do. I think for the most part, most doctors don't see pharmaceutical reps. And when they do, they do it just to get the samples for their patients. Because you can save patients thousands of dollars. So if you spend a minute and a half with a pharmacy rep, you get some medication that you already are planning to use. You already know you need it. That's why you're spending that time with the rep.

1:10:15 Adam Is it changed from the old days of the golf tournaments in Maui, and all the glad handing and everything?

1:10:21 Drew Yes.

1:10:21 James Van Praagh It's very tight now, isn't it?

1:10:22 Drew Oh, yeah. Now, it's tighter for them. The doctors are fearful of violating ethical boundaries with even talking to them. They just don't talk to them.

1:10:31 Adam Yeah.

1:10:31 Drew So.

1:10:32 Adam All right. I want to say something. I know it just popped in my sweet-spirited head. I was watching. Here's my wonderful TiVo tonight. And I was watching 60 Minutes from last week, three, four days ago. I don't know if you guys caught it. But I just.

1:10:46 Drew You got that after the Ron Jeremy film?

1:10:48 Adam They were in between, actually. Refractory period.

1:10:51 Drew Yeah.

1:10:52 Adam Get into that later. Chewed through my T-shirt.

1:10:56 Drew The 60 Minutes were extended. Refractoriness. Yeah.

1:11:01 Adam I cool down. Call it what you like.

1:11:03 Drew All right.

1:11:04 Adam The point is, is they were. Every third 60 Minutes episode is how horrible this country is. And a lot of it is, is a lot of these stories of what we're doing to find out information about terrorists. And what we do is we have a no torture policy when it comes to extracting information from terrorists. So we send them somewhere else to be tortured. And they get all sanctimonious and heavy handed and they get all high on their horse. And it's like, well, you know, do you think it's right to use force to whatever? And then everyone starts backpedaling, which is stupid. Well, we knew nothing of this when they knew everything of it. And they never turn it around on the guy and go, look, if we had a guy on 910 who had some information, we could put a cigarette butt out on his forehead and got some news out of him. What would you wanted us to do? Huh? I'm asking you, what do you think, jackass? They never do that. They start backpedaling and so they pose the question to the American who is sort of in charge of this. And the guy basically said, we've got a lot of useful information out of these guys through these techniques and staved off some attacks. And they said, yes, but through torture, is that all right with you? And the guy said, it's all right with me. And I thought, yeah, good. That's right. It's okay. Put the screws to the guys, get some information and a bus full of kids will live.

1:12:34 Drew Yeah, you didn't break any laws or anything?

1:12:35 Adam Yeah, the guy was like, yeah, no, no, that's fine. And I thought, good, that's what we have to do with these pussies. Instead of like, you start backpedaling, they get momentum and the next thing you know, you're cornered. Yeah, we sent them to a country. They got techniques. They don't got laws like we got over there. They extract the information. We stop terrorist attacks. That's fine. That's how we do it. That's why we're doing it, by the way. The reason it's okay with me is- It works. It works. That's what we're doing, yeah. He just said, yeah. He said, look, I'm interested in stopping terrorist attacks, so it's fine with me. Good. Then the other guy would speak. He had nothing. What are you going to say?

1:13:08 Caller Of course.

1:13:09 Adam Pussies. I'm just saying.

1:13:10 Caller Take a break.

1:13:11 Adam Just stand up, everybody. Someone wants to know if it's okay with you, if you put a screwdriver on a guy and get some information. Fine. That's fine. That's what they do to us. It's fine.

1:13:21 Drew Are you kidding? What would they do to us?

1:13:22 Adam That's the other thing too. Again, you watch 60 Minutes two weeks earlier and it's like, oh, Guantanamo Bay, a female interrogator took one of the men there interrogating, put his hand on her breast. It's like, yeah, is that a big deal? You know what I'm saying? Send me to Guantanamo Bay so I can cop a feel. By the way, we call that getting a second base, not torture. That's torture. In high school, I pay for that crap.

1:13:49 Drew Torture is he's not able to go beyond.

1:13:51 Adam Torture is I couldn't get under the bra.

1:13:52 Caller That's the torture.

1:13:53 Adam It's always over the sweater. They make a big deal over it. And the person they're talking to is like, well, I'm going to look into this immediately. The person to be going, listen, anyone who's had battery cables hooked up to their nuts knows what torture is. This ain't it. And let me ask you, you're getting tortured. What do you go with? You go with the electrocution of the genitals or you go with the hand on the boob? What do you go with? Yeah. So shut up. No one ever does that. It's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, me too. I'm looking at this. Shut up. Shut your pie hole, everybody. We'll take a quick break. James Van Praagh here tonight. We'll be right back after this.

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1:14:55 Afterwards, the female makes the male a large plate of pancakes.

1:15:00 Ordinary sex?

1:15:01 Drew See ya.

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1:15:31 Adam Yeah, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. James Van Praagh is here tonight. He's freaking me out. Someone's going to break into my house. Awesome.

1:15:42 James Van Praagh You're not going to publish that, are you?

1:15:43 Adam All right. All right. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Do we do this direct thing?

1:15:50 Drew Yeah.

1:15:51 Adam All right.

1:15:51 Drew We're good. You haven't picked the call yet.

1:15:52 Adam Well, you pick it, Drew. You'll find out. We don't have to pick it till the end of the night.

1:15:55 Drew That's right. Pick Andrea real quick.

1:15:58 Adam We'll check Andrea? All right.

1:15:59 Let's see.

1:16:01 Adam Andrea, 23.

1:16:02 Caller Hi.

1:16:03 Caller What's up?

1:16:05 Caller I have a question for Dr. Drew.

1:16:07 Caller I was diagnosed with vulvodynia vestibulitis.

1:16:12 Adam What's that?

1:16:13 Drew Well, it's two different diagnoses. Vulvodynia just means painful extragenitalia. Vestibulitis is a specific diagnosis that causes vulvodynia. It's in the class of the stuff that on this show, they have sexual abuse, is often associated with sexual abuse. I don't know if you had that, Andrew, or not, but the only treatment that's ever been shown to be useful for vestibulitis per se are antidepressant medicines, things like that.

1:16:39 Caller Topical Coke. Really?

1:16:40 Drew Yeah.

1:16:41 Caller Wow. Which I'm on right now.

1:16:43 Drew You're on antidepressant.

1:16:44 Caller I'm on amitriptyline. Psychic. Yeah.

1:16:47 Drew Are you a sexual abuse survivor?

1:16:49 Caller No. I've never been sexually abused. It just started like a year ago, and I was under a lot of stress at the time with school and family and relationship stuff. I was wondering if it was stress-related or-

1:17:01 Drew Oh, it sure is. That's why antidepressants possibly one of the reasons it works, because there is a central nervous system component to this thing. But I got to tell you, there usually is some kind of, no one inappropriately touched you or anything like that.

1:17:15 James Van Praagh There's a source where it begins, some of us know.

1:17:18 Adam What do we need to know? Anything?

1:17:20 Caller No.

1:17:20 Adam Any kind of abuse, physical abuse?

1:17:23 Caller No, nothing. I mean.

1:17:25 James Van Praagh You have a brother? Do you have a brother?

1:17:26 Caller No.

1:17:28 Adam Just only child? He's dead to me.

1:17:30 Caller He's younger sister.

1:17:32 Adam Younger sister?

1:17:33 Caller Yeah.

1:17:33 Adam Stepdad, regular dad?

1:17:35 Caller Regular dad.

1:17:37 Adam She doesn't give off.

1:17:38 Drew No, right. I don't get that.

1:17:39 Adam I don't get an ounce. Like see, if we're hearing it in your voice, we would be really digging, but I'm not hearing anything. It sounds very normal.

1:17:46 Drew So maybe it's an anxiety symptom for you, or maybe there is some inflammation there.

1:17:49 Adam It could be equestrian related.

1:17:50 Drew I'll tell you one thing that, are you on birth control pills? Yes. I'll tell you one thing that doctors overlook very, very often, and it sometimes gets pushed off as vestibulitis, is you can get what's called atrophic vaginitis from the birth control pills. There's something called Vagifem, a little intra vaginal suppository. You take once a week. It takes care. I urge you strongly to try that because the progesterone in the birth control pill sometimes blocks the estrogenic effects at the external genitalia and just putting some estrogen down there takes care of it. You may not even have vestibulitis, you may have what's called atrophic vaginitis, all right?

1:18:23 Caller Would that be? I went to many different doctors and they gave me estrogen cream to put in.

1:18:28 Drew Yeah, did it work at all?

1:18:29 Caller It didn't work.

1:18:31 Drew How long did you use it for?

1:18:33 Caller I don't know, a couple of weeks. And then I went to this other doctor and he said that it had nothing to do with why I have the pain.

1:18:40 Drew Well, I understand. But these are not, did you have biopsies of the area?

1:18:44 Caller No.

1:18:45 Drew Yeah, this is not something you can necessarily sort out just by looking. So I would go back to the estrogen cream for a month or so, frankly.

1:18:51 Adam Do you have a boyfriend?

1:18:52 Caller Yeah.

1:18:54 Drew And I would change my birth control pill too. I tried different pills, it made a difference.

1:18:57 Caller I tried that too.

1:18:58 Adam Yeah. Do you have a boyfriend?

1:18:59 Caller Yes, I do.

1:19:00 Adam All right. I know I asked you earlier and you answered, but our phone lines are horrible.

1:19:03 Drew How's that going?

1:19:04 Caller I know.

1:19:04 Drew Is that going okay, that relationship?

1:19:06 Caller It's going good now. At the time it started, it wasn't going so good. So it's kind of why I wondered if it was stressed or maybe, like, I don't know, there was like cheating going on.

1:19:17 Drew So what's your stress?

1:19:20 Caller My stress? I was I'm in school and I was taking really hard classes. My sister was getting in trouble using meth, having a lot of family issues.

1:19:34 Drew What's going on? No one hit you when you're growing up? You never had that kind of problem?

1:19:37 Caller No. No.

1:19:38 Drew So what are the family issues?

1:19:39 Adam What's going on with your sister doing the math?

1:19:42 Caller I don't know what her problem is. Everything started right around then. She was caught with theft. She stole $700 worth of stuff from the mall.

1:19:53 Adam What's your dad do? Is he a cop?

1:19:55 Caller No, my boyfriend is though.

1:19:58 Caller Sweet spirit speaking to me.

1:20:00 James Van Praagh Psychic Adam.

1:20:01 Adam I smelled cop around there.

1:20:02 Drew What does your dad do?

1:20:04 Caller He's a mass spectrometer. He works at the university in the chemistry department.

1:20:08 Adam I knew it. My next one is mass spectrometer. He's the guy, the thing with the lightning bolts that comes out of it. He's a mad scientist. What the hell? What the hell does he do?

1:20:23 Drew The mass spectrometer.

1:20:24 Adam Works the mass spectrometer?

1:20:26 James Van Praagh What does that do?

1:20:28 Drew Chemistry.

1:20:29 Adam All right. Andrea, boy, I'll tell you, your family's got range. Because your dad's working the mass spectrometer over at the college, and your sister's scoring crack.

1:20:41 Caller Right.

1:20:42 Drew I was suspicious that maybe more going on in your family than you really realize. But whatever, there's emotional overlay, could be an estrogenic effect, could be related to the birth control. There's a lot of possibilities here.

1:20:50 James Van Praagh Can I just throw something else at you, Andrea?

1:20:52 Drew Yeah.

1:20:53 James Van Praagh Have you ever thought about that you have to live up to a certain expectation of your family?

1:20:55 Drew Oh, yeah.

1:20:56 Caller Excuse me?

1:20:57 James Van Praagh There's a sense that you have to live up to a certain expectation of your family. What they expect of you? Yeah.

1:21:04 Caller I would have to say that I'm more of the overachiever and I felt I had to live up to that.

1:21:09 James Van Praagh I think that's an element of this also. I think that's an element of that, that's stress-related with this expectation, what's expected of you with your family. Just be yourself.

1:21:17 Drew A book called Drama of the Gifted Child. You may want to check that out.

1:21:20 Adam All right. What's that thing called?

1:21:22 Drew Drama of the Gifted Child.

1:21:23 Caller No, MassSpec.

1:21:24 Drew MassSpec.

1:21:25 Adam What do they do with that thing?

1:21:27 Drew Identify chemicals, basically.

1:21:29 Adam Andy.

1:21:30 Drew Yes.

1:21:31 Adam That's weird. I got cop.

1:21:32 Drew Yeah.

1:21:33 Adam I think her dad was a cop.

1:21:34 Caller So you're good.

1:21:34 James Van Praagh You're a sweet spirit.

1:21:35 Adam Yeah. Go ahead, Andy.

1:21:37 Caller You're 23.

1:21:38 James Van Praagh Yeah. I just wanted to talk to, first of all, hello Adam, Dr. Drew and James Van Praag.

1:21:44 James Van Praagh Hey there, Andy.

1:21:45 James Van Praagh I used to love your show when it was on. I'm sorry they took it off.

1:21:48 James Van Praagh Thank you. Watch the new one. It'll be good. Ghost Whisperer.

1:21:51 James Van Praagh When's it going to be on?

1:21:52 James Van Praagh September of this year. It'll be on eight o'clock Friday nights.

1:21:55 Drew CBS.

1:21:56 James Van Praagh CBS.

1:21:57 James Van Praagh Be sure to look for it.

1:21:57 James Van Praagh Yeah, Jennifer will do it.

1:21:59 James Van Praagh Oh, okay. Excuse me. My question is pretty much, I'm going to pretty much start and get in the medical field for my career and I just don't know which route I want to go. I mean, I'm starting at the basics.

1:22:12 James Van Praagh I think therapist. Therapist. You're good with people and I feel like there's some psychology or therapy type of work you're going to get involved in. It's more than the medical part. I feel like more with people oriented. I also feel to travel with it too, so there's going to be some therapy and people.

1:22:30 Adam You can be a rambling therapist.

1:22:32 James Van Praagh A rambling therapist is now what I'll do?

1:22:34 James Van Praagh It's like a group. You're in front of a group, like you're doing seminars, it's good for you. But I feel like there's more years involved in the training part of it than you're anticipating.

1:22:45 Drew What were you thinking about doing?

1:22:47 James Van Praagh Actually, I was thinking about either PA or RN. But I am, I do have access to the skills to work with people.

1:22:54 Drew RN can be teaching. Yeah.

1:22:56 Adam What about, I get mass spectrometer. Is that anything?

1:23:00 James Van Praagh You know, that was my third choice. That was my third choice.

1:23:03 James Van Praagh I see you doing some more psych stuff.

1:23:06 Caller Well, he said it very, he said it very sincerely.

1:23:09 James Van Praagh Mass spectrometer, yes.

1:23:10 Adam Yeah.

1:23:11 Drew All right.

1:23:11 Adam All right. That wasn't your third choice, was it?

1:23:14 James Van Praagh What's that?

1:23:15 Drew No.

1:23:15 Adam No. Okay. He sold it. He said it very, he said, that was my third choice.

1:23:20 James Van Praagh Yeah. I see. There you go. People skills. That's right there.

1:23:23 James Van Praagh I like psychology for you.

1:23:24 Adam You made me laugh. You made me feel good about myself. I feel like I can open up to you.

1:23:29 James Van Praagh Thank you very much. Hey, you know, I could charge by the hour too. Two bucks.

1:23:32 Adam All right. All right, buddy.

1:23:34 James Van Praagh Thank you.

1:23:35 Drew The Peanuts comic strip here. Yeah. Lucy.

1:23:38 Adam All right. Let's take a little break.

1:23:40 Drew Yeah, let's do.

1:23:41 Adam James Van Praagh is here tonight. He's got a book out called Looking Beyond. He's got a TV show coming out called The Ghost Whisperer. He's got a website, www.vonpraagh.com.

1:23:51 Drew Do you have Andy, the direct thing?

1:23:54 Adam Oh, well, is he gone?

1:23:55 Drew Gone.

1:23:56 Adam Yeah. All right. There you go. Snooze you lose. Take a quick break. Be right back after this.

1:24:06 Caller Please hold.

1:24:28 Adam Hey, it's the Love Line. I can barely, is that our engineer Todd?

1:24:32 Caller Yeah.

1:24:32 Adam I can barely hear him when he cues me in. I think that's the problem.

1:24:36 Caller There he goes.

1:24:37 Adam There you go.

1:24:38 Caller Yep.

1:24:39 Adam Hey everyone, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. James Van Praagh is here tonight. Got a little show coming out in the fall called The Ghost Whisper. Got some hot chicks in there. Jennifer Love Hewitt, Aisha Tyler. Wish him luck on that.

1:24:53 James Van Praagh I also do lectures all over the country. People want to know about San Francisco, Seattle, Denver's coming up. They go to my website. They have great seminars.

1:25:00 Adam What are the big cities for this thing in this country?

1:25:06 James Van Praagh Phoenix is number one.

1:25:07 Adam Really?

1:25:08 James Van Praagh Phoenix is number one.

1:25:09 Drew They want to be inside. They want to figure out what to be inside. Listen to this.

1:25:12 James Van Praagh It's something wild there with the land. Then California.

1:25:16 Adam Oh, really?

1:25:17 James Van Praagh Then New York is third and then Chicago. Phoenix. Phoenix and then Arizona. It's weird.

1:25:22 Adam See, that's weird because I would think, well, that's for the psychic stuff, but if you go to Louisiana, you got a lot more going on there.

1:25:31 James Van Praagh You got the voodoo, you got the black dark magic, a lot of light magic, a lot of stuff.

1:25:35 Adam I don't think it's-

1:25:35 James Van Praagh Very haunted place.

1:25:37 Adam I think over there though, it's like, why do we need to pay a guy to tell us what we already know? I got a ghost living in my house. It's like Brazil.

1:25:43 James Van Praagh Yeah, it's like Brazil. It's like a tradition there too. It's yeah, exactly. But different cities have different energy, so it'll attract different types of elements.

1:25:51 Adam But the people are most into it and you said Phoenix?

1:25:54 James Van Praagh Yeah, very much like Sedona and Phoenix share the range.

1:25:57 Adam Sedona, I can see that. Certainly California. Lily?

1:26:01 Caller Yes.

1:26:02 Adam You're 18?

1:26:03 Caller Yeah.

1:26:04 Caller What's up?

1:26:06 Caller Well, there's a lot of stuff. Okay. I've been engaged for about nine months to a guy. I'm not going to say his name.

1:26:17 Drew You're 18. How old is he?

1:26:19 Caller He's 19.

1:26:20 Adam He already sounded depressed. It already sounds like a disaster.

1:26:24 James Van Praagh Not good.

1:26:25 Adam So what's up?

1:26:29 Caller Well, I just found out that he's homeless now. I didn't know that whenever we first got together because he told me that he was living with a friend.

1:26:38 Adam Yeah. He's supposed to be able to smell the homeless.

1:26:42 Caller He didn't smell dirty.

1:26:44 Adam Showered at the beach.

1:26:47 Caller And then now I'm pregnant and he's homeless. I found out the reason why he's homeless is because he was beating on his mom and sister.

1:26:59 Drew All right. What's the question?

1:27:00 Caller Mom and sister.

1:27:02 Adam This is comically bad. By the way, you're going to win the Durex Party Pack. Yes. I wish I'd get any of those condoms just a little bit earlier.

1:27:09 Drew Yeah.

1:27:09 Adam But feel free to start using them.

1:27:11 Drew Yeah.

1:27:12 Caller I should have.

1:27:13 Drew What's your question? You won the Durex Pack. Now, how else can we help you?

1:27:16 Caller I mean, I don't know if I should keep this baby or not.

1:27:21 Drew Have you had any prenatal counseling yet?

1:27:24 Caller He won't go.

1:27:26 Drew No, you. Forget about him, Lily.

1:27:29 James Van Praagh He's gone.

1:27:29 Drew He is toast.

1:27:30 James Van Praagh He's gone.

1:27:31 Drew You got to throw yourself on the mercy of the system and get some assistance, some help and figure out what to do with this. Come on.

1:27:37 Adam What's going on with you?

1:27:38 You're going to Phoenix?

1:27:40 Adam James is going to come speaking at the armory.

1:27:43 James Van Praagh It's too smart to go through this.

1:27:45 Adam What are you doing?

1:27:47 Caller What do you mean?

1:27:48 Adam Why? You're getting pregnant by homeless guys who are abused, their mom and sister.

1:27:55 Drew They just haven't gotten around to you yet.

1:27:57 Caller Yeah.

1:27:58 Adam What's up?

1:28:01 Caller I don't know. He's-

1:28:04 Drew No, we're not talking about him. We're talking about you. What's up with you?

1:28:07 Adam You've got to get rid of this kid, by the way. You've got to do something with this kid. You're going to screw this kid up.

1:28:11 Drew Please, adoption for the child.

1:28:13 Adam How about adoption?

1:28:14 Caller How to get away from him.

1:28:18 Adam From the homeless guy?

1:28:20 Drew Make a call to Social Services or Department of Mental Health. Go get some assistance, talk to somebody there, and they will help you disconnect from this guy. Okay? Also help you with the child and what to do with that. Hang on, we're going to give you this new pack. Give me the 50 bucks, we'll help her.

1:28:36 Adam Yeah. And look, Lily, let's not have this call a year from now. You know what I mean? Don't make this mistake again because you're only 18. You got four or five more of these in you. Yeah.

1:28:48 Drew Let's turn it around now. It's 18. I know you're suffering deeply. There's a lot of pain here.

1:28:52 Adam Right.

1:28:52 Drew Let's turn it around. You're capable of that.

1:28:54 James Van Praagh Start loving yourself more, not someone else. Love yourself. Now it's time to loving yourself.

1:28:58 Adam All right, Lily.

1:29:00 Drew All right. Hold on.

1:29:01 James Van Praagh Hold on.

1:29:01 Adam Let's talk to, who do we want to talk to? Do we want to talk to James?

1:29:03 Drew Six.

1:29:04 Adam This James?

1:29:04 Drew Yeah.

1:29:05 Adam James?

1:29:06 Yeah.

1:29:07 Adam You're 19?

1:29:08 Caller Yeah.

1:29:09 Adam Question for James?

1:29:11 Caller Yeah. Question was to James. James. Hey, James.

1:29:15 James Van Praagh Good name.

1:29:16 Caller Yeah, isn't it?

1:29:17 James Van Praagh What's up?

1:29:19 Caller I wanted to know, I've been dating this girl for about six months, and then we split up, but we're still kind of like talking. I've known her for four years, and she's telling me, just trust me, wait, it's worth it. She wants you back.

1:29:33 James Van Praagh She wants to marry you, right? She wants to marry you?

1:29:35 Caller Oh my God. Yeah.

1:29:36 James Van Praagh That's all in her head is marriage. I see there's marriage on this girl's head.

1:29:40 Caller Yeah.

1:29:40 James Van Praagh I'd give it a couple more years, because there's also some college stuff going on, like university stuff and she's going to school.

1:29:46 Adam Oh, you're going to be an EMT.

1:29:48 James Van Praagh Yeah.

1:29:48 Caller I'd give it like two years.

1:29:50 Caller Two years?

1:29:50 Caller Wait two years?

1:29:51 James Van Praagh Wait two years, fill things out, see what happens, and she's got to be patient.

1:29:56 Adam You're 19. You have the greatest excuse in the world.

1:29:59 Caller I don't want to get married right now. No way. I've got a lot of freedom.

1:30:02 Adam No, I understand that, but here's the thing. We tell people this every night. When you're 19, it's not an option. It's not something that can be brought to the negotiating table. It's just not an option. You don't have to explain why you can't. Show her your driver's license. That's all the explanation she needs. She doesn't want to be with someone. You should explain to her, you shouldn't want a 19-year-old to marry your ass.

1:30:27 Drew Oh my God.

1:30:28 Adam 19?

1:30:30 James Van Praagh James, don't give your power away so easily. Why would you give your power away? Why would you give it away? Don't be so pressured.

1:30:35 Adam That's all you got.

1:30:37 Caller Why did I give it away?

1:30:38 James Van Praagh Yeah, don't give your power away to her. I mean, you can love her, but you don't have to give yourself away.

1:30:42 Caller I fell for her pretty much that way.

1:30:45 Adam All right.

1:30:46 James Van Praagh Give yourself some time.

1:30:47 Caller I understand.

1:30:48 Adam What's the deal? When you're 19 and she's 18 or she's 19, it's not like you have to break up if you both make it to 20 and you're not married. Right. You could date for five years. You could see each other. You could live with each other.

1:31:01 Drew You could take a break or not.

1:31:02 Adam You could do whatever you want.

1:31:04 James Van Praagh Discover things about yourself you've never known before.

1:31:06 Adam Yeah, I'm just saying.

1:31:07 Drew James wants a little time off though, I think. Call her James.

1:31:11 Adam Well, James is doing this thing. I think he's scared he's going to lose her if he doesn't marry her.

1:31:15 Drew Right, but he wants to screw around a bit before he's got to do his thing.

1:31:18 Adam Wow. It doesn't take a second to understand that.

1:31:21 Drew I'm just saying.

1:31:22 Adam James, would you like to see the world through the vagina of another woman?

1:31:28 Caller I'm going to go in the army and go to Germany.

1:31:30 Adam All right. Well, it's over, baby.

1:31:34 Caller What are you talking about?

1:31:35 Drew Well, for now, for now.

1:31:36 Adam You're going to Germany. Here's the thing. People, you have no idea when you're 19. Look, if you lived in Indiana and she lived in Chicago, this thing wouldn't work. If you're going to Germany, forget about it.

1:31:50 Drew For now.

1:31:51 Adam You should hope. Just be smart. Don't go to Germany and be miserable for nine months and then find out she was sleeping with your buddy when you come back. Just come on. So you got to live your life or don't go to Germany. Right. I mean, get a job on a farm, marry her and start crapping out some kids. That's the whole thing. You can't live the modern lifestyle in the stone age of marriage. Like here's the thing. You want to go to Germany? Fine. Go to Germany. Break up or stay there. Don't do both.

1:32:18 Caller That's right.

1:32:19 James Van Praagh I have a true love. She'll wait for you.

1:32:22 Adam No, you just bought him another three years, James. Jeremy?

1:32:27 Caller Yeah.

1:32:27 Adam You're 20?

1:32:29 Caller Yes, I am, Adam.

1:32:30 Adam What's up?

1:32:31 Caller Long time listener, huge fan. Adam, you are my idol.

1:32:35 Adam Thank you.

1:32:35 Caller First, Dr. Drew, I recently broke my hand and fractured it.

1:32:43 Drew I love this about people. Fracture and broke, same word. There's no difference. Go ahead. I didn't break my fracture.

1:32:49 Adam Well, let's see compound.

1:32:50 Drew Compound fractures, it's sticking out of the skin, or displaced fracture, meaning the bone isn't lined up anymore.

1:32:56 Caller Go ahead. It's been tough times. I've visited three or four doctors, I've been to the ER and everything. He was telling me, I believe, I know I'm going to screw this word up, calcium. He wanted me to take extra calcium. He said he'd eat a lot of ice cream and calcium, I believe.

1:33:10 Drew That's good.

1:33:11 Caller What are some good over-the-counter calcium pills that I could take?

1:33:14 Drew Oh, it's all kinds. There's a million of them. Calcium carbonate or you could even just take tums. You could take eight tums habits a day and be great.

1:33:21 Adam It's a bad sign when at age 20 you think you're going to screw up the word calcium. I know some kind of foreign.

1:33:27 Caller It's all that weed and we could get into that.

1:33:29 Adam Yeah, it's all that medical ease, Drew. You know, that's crazy medical ease here.

1:33:33 Caller I got to use the paint here, guys. I got to use the paint.

1:33:36 Drew Well, calcium, oh, the pot, I see.

1:33:37 Adam Yeah. All right. I smell junior college.

1:33:41 Drew Sac State.

1:33:41 Caller Oh, not even that, I wish.

1:33:43 Adam Oh, you're working toward junior college.

1:33:46 Caller Oh, yes. Actually, Adam, do you know what I really want to do, like my dream job?

1:33:50 Adam Be a pirate astronaut.

1:33:52 Caller No, not even close. Radio broadcasting. Yeah.

1:33:56 James Van Praagh You could take a sidekick to that.

1:33:58 Adam Yeah.

1:33:58 Caller Definitely. You definitely encourage me to do that.

1:34:01 Adam Well, good. So, forget about college.

1:34:03 Drew You're speaking to you through the speaker.

1:34:06 Adam Yeah.

1:34:07 Drew All right, Jeremy.

1:34:08 Adam Good luck with your dreams. Look, go to a local radio station, drive the van. That's the way you do it. You'd show up. Don't bother taking any classes.

1:34:16 Caller One more time, Dr. Drew, what was the name of that you said?

1:34:18 Drew Tums. Tums tablets. Calcium carbonate, about 1000 milligrams a day.

1:34:22 Adam Why Tums?

1:34:23 Drew Because it's a readily available cheap.

1:34:26 Adam You just go get a supplement. You just go calcium, right?

1:34:28 Drew Calcium gluconate is actually more available. 1200 milligrams, that didn't really.

1:34:32 Adam What do they make? They make it out of shells and stuff, don't they?

1:34:34 Drew Yeah, calcium carbonate, yeah. Seashells.

1:34:36 Adam Seashells? Wow. Seen oyster shells, they just crush them up? All right, we're going to take ourselves a little break. James Van Praagh is here tonight. We'll be right back after this.

1:35:26 Drew Yeah.

1:35:27 Adam Well, that's a sharp one. I want to thank James Van Praagh for coming in tonight. Look and Beyond is the name of the book, Teen Guides to the Spiritual World. And also you can go to www.vanpragh.com. If you want to find out information about where James is going to be, coming to a town near you, or you just want to interact with James, yes?

1:35:50 James Van Praagh Yes, sir. Thank you very much.

1:35:52 Adam Come back anytime, James.

1:35:53 James Van Praagh I'd love to.

1:35:54 Adam Yeah, Drew, what are you looking at?

1:35:56 Drew I didn't hear what you said about the show.

1:35:57 Adam Oh, and I plugged the crap out of that Ghost Whisperer. Coming out in the fall, everyone.

1:36:01 James Van Praagh It's the FCBS, right.

1:36:02 Adam All right, Terran Manning is coming in here tomorrow night, and also John Singleton from Hustle and Flow is supposed to be really good. So we'll talk to them tomorrow night. Until next time, it's Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, mahalo.

1:36:17 This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station.

1:36:29 Adam The producer for Loveline is Aningold.

1:36:31 Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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