Episode 1000724338195

0:57 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content. Sexually-oriented content. Listener discretion is advised. Listener discretion is advised. Listener discretion is advised. This is Loveline. With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

1:24 Voiceover Yeah, yeah, love line, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist, and Hawthorne Heights is a band which is coming on here tonight. As a matter of fact, we just found out they're coming on tonight a little earlier in the day and then afflict on Kimmel tonight.

1:47 Hawthorne Heights Yeah, they're coming in from Kimmel.

1:48 Adam And they're doing Kimmel tonight.

1:49 Hawthorne Heights Right.

1:50 Adam So if they're doing Kimmel, they got to be hot. She will not let second tier bands on that show. I know. I tried to get my band, Narthex on there.

1:58 Drew Oh, really? Narthex didn't play.

1:59 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

2:00 Adam Heavy rock.

2:01 Hawthorne Heights A lot of attitude.

2:03 Adam Attitude. Attitude rock.

2:04 Drew Use my geniuses.

2:05 Adam Attitude. Yeah.

2:06 Drew And attitude.

2:07 Adam Yeah. Edge. Edge. So those guys are going to be coming over here from Kimmel. So we'll probably have them on in the second break. But now, we'll move forward, Drew.

2:18 Drew Perfect. Take some calls.

2:19 Adam You're cool?

2:19 Drew Yeah.

2:20 Adam Doing good? What's going on? What are you on?

2:23 Drew What am I on?

2:23 Adam You doing something? You on vacation?

2:25 Drew I'm going to New York for Today Show to do Today Show Friday morning.

2:28 Adam Oh, really? How long are you going to be there?

2:31 Drew Four hours, the usual.

2:33 Hawthorne Heights All right.

2:33 Adam You're coming right back?

2:34 Drew Coming right back. And then I'm going to Las Vegas for the weekend. Your wife called me today to say that she couldn't make it.

2:40 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

2:41 Drew She never ever offered you coming, though, just whether she was going to come or not.

2:44 Adam Well, here's the thing. I was going to go on a fishing trip.

2:47 Drew That's what she said, but you're not going on that now.

2:49 Adam No, but I'm not because I got to work Saturday, and then I got two shows to do on Tuesday, and then I'm going to New York to do Letterman on Wednesday. So I just thought, that's too much. You know?

3:02 Drew Yeah.

3:02 Adam You know my thing. I like to relax.

3:05 Drew No, you haven't been home in a month.

3:06 Adam I've been home, and here's the whole thing about a vacation. Vacation is fine, except for if you go on one of these fishing ones, you got to get up at 445, and then you got to go out and sit in the sun and do all that. And then when you come home, you're exhausted, and now it's time to get back to work.

3:20 Drew No way. No.

3:21 Adam I'm going to take a Quailude, I'm going to put myself a nice IV drip in me, and I'm going out. You know what I want to do this weekend? I want to do that thing you do, rapid detox.

3:32 Drew I'm glad you brought that up, because those are finally defunct. A lead article of JAMA this week showed that there's no place for rapid detox.

3:40 Adam No place.

3:41 Drew No place.

3:42 Adam You mean there are facilities, but there's no place in our society.

3:46 Drew In treatment, because people are dying as a result. It cost a ton, and it showed in no way to be superior to standard detox, which is what I do for people.

3:54 Adam Let me ask you this, Drew. I'm looking to really get some serious sleep in this weekend, though. I mean, I want to...

3:59 Drew You can just go under anesthesia. We can put you to sleep.

4:01 Adam Yeah, yeah.

4:01 Drew That's fine.

4:03 Adam I want to throw a good charge on the batteries.

4:05 Drew Yeah.

4:05 Adam You know what I mean? And when I say rapid detox...

4:08 Drew You just mean anesthesia.

4:09 Adam Yeah. I don't want all the concoctions and pills and whatnot. I just want a nice morphine drip, some anesthesia. Maybe work a little, you know, catheterize me. Twilight.

4:19 Drew Twilight.

4:19 Adam Obviously.

4:19 Drew Obviously.

4:20 Adam And do whatever they do for number two. Whatever that is. They have some sort of funnel.

4:25 Drew You don't care? What do you care?

4:26 Adam Bazooka or something. But what do they do for number two?

4:29 Hawthorne Heights Diapers.

4:31 Drew That's right. You won't know it.

4:32 Hawthorne Heights Okay.

4:33 Adam All right. My point is I would like to go down for like 22 to 28 hours and just go down hard. When I wake up, I don't know what day it is. I don't even want to know who I am.

4:43 Drew Well, so be it an average day for you.

4:45 Adam Yeah.

4:46 Drew Yeah.

4:46 Adam Morning. But let me ask this, Drew. How does it work? Explain this to me. If your work, you know, you're burning the midnight oil, you're burning the candle both ends, you're burning something else. I can't think of a third analogy. And you're really behind on sleep and you've just been run ragged for a week and then you sleep eight hours.

5:07 Drew Yeah.

5:07 Adam Obviously, you've charged yourself up a little bit. But would it be better to sleep for 14 hours at that point? You know what I'm saying? Because I don't think it is.

5:15 Drew No, it isn't. It could make you more tired. But what you could do is lie around all day. That'd be good.

5:19 Adam That'd be good.

5:19 Drew Yeah.

5:20 Adam Oh, I majored in that in high school. But here, so what I'm saying is, it's too bad your body doesn't work like this.

5:28 Drew Yeah.

5:29 Adam You can store it like a battery where you go like, look, this is one of these days where we're going to be, I'm going to be going to bed at 2, I got to get up at 5 to go to catch a 7 a.m. flight to New York. So the day before, I'm going to sleep for 16 hours, and then I'll feel great the following day when I sleep for three hours.

5:46 Drew Nope.

5:47 Adam Why is that?

5:48 Drew I know, I hate that. Why do we have to sleep at all? Let's get rid of that altogether.

5:53 Adam Well, first off, if there was no sleep at all, I would beat off 126 times a day. I realize that because my witching hour is about 2 a.m. to 8 a.m. That's what you're doing there. That's what I'm doing.

6:06 Drew I thought it was your medicine that kept you awake.

6:08 Adam Well, there's that too. But no, you know what I'm saying?

6:10 Drew Yeah.

6:11 Adam You know what I'd be doing to myself between 4 a.m. and 6 a.m.?

6:17 Drew Just be doubling down what you did between 2 and 4.

6:20 Adam I know. But the point is you would just add that number.

6:22 Yeah.

6:22 Adam Yeah. All I'm saying is, Drew, that would be a horrible idea for me and the whole story.

6:27 Drew It wouldn't stop at 6.

6:27 Let's face it.

6:28 Drew Yeah.

6:29 Adam Okay. Now, here's what I'm asking, though. We have not worked that out as far as humankind goes in several billion years.

6:37 Drew Changing our sleep.

6:39 Adam Any evolvement? Is there been any evolvement?

6:42 Drew We can make people sleep, but we can't store sleep.

6:44 Adam Well, you can drug them up. But wouldn't it be nice if you just really just needed to sleep four hours a night?

6:50 Drew Sleep is still basically a mystery. Why do we need to sleep? What is happening? It's clearly something we need.

6:56 Adam But wouldn't it be awesome? Especially for guys like you and I, who have crazy schedules and I'm always feel like I'm dragging around, and everybody in this society.

7:05 Drew Are you kidding?

7:06 Adam Wouldn't it be nice just to hook yourself up to a little mask, or put some earphones on with a little rhythmic, some sort of thump sound that did some sort of thing that got your cerebellum?

7:18 Drew People try that kind of stuff.

7:19 Adam Well, let's work it out, man.

7:21 Drew They're trying lots of that kind of thing, but it's such a delicate chemistry. We're long, long off that.

7:28 Adam I just mean if we could do four hours a night with the headphones and the mask, or if we could do the bank it. Man, like a squirrel with its acorns. Well, I only get to sleep two hours the next night? Good. I'm going to bank an extra two tonight. I'll use that tomorrow. Nothing, nothing, nothing. After the greatest night's sleep the night before, still feel like fried hell the next day.

7:55 Drew You're making me uncomfortable.

7:56 Adam Me too.

7:57 Drew Because I would love this. Well, get on it.

8:00 Adam Why don't you get on it? But here's the thing.

8:03 Drew I understand that system is not going to work.

8:05 Adam You understand. Let me just say something, Drew.

8:08 Drew Say something.

8:09 Adam I'm a carpenter, right?

8:10 Drew Yeah.

8:11 Adam I came up with the Recycl-A-Rolla. This is a recycling chute for people's houses. Boom, you throw the bottle in, boom, it goes right into the recycling can. You know what I did today? I was working on the house for this TLC show, and I bought all my mirrors and I was swinging them like closet doors.

8:28 Drew Well, I got the number for you for the TV.

8:30 Adam All right. We'll talk off the air. Here's my point. I also invented a thing where instead of using the bifolding louvered doors, those crappy closet doors, they're the ones that slide with the gold anodized thing. Hate them. Hate them. Just want to go gay on you for a second. Yeah. You have a closet, it's a nice four, six-foot opening at the stupid cheap sliding doors and everything. Okay. Here's what I do. Do you know what I do?

8:56 Drew You swing the mirror.

8:57 Adam I swing the mirror.

8:58 Drew Yeah, I imagine that.

8:59 Adam I go over to the framing store and I order a nice big mirror. Just order whatever frame you want, beveled whatever you want, whatever size you want. I order two of them. For the opening, I swing them like a door. Nice big full-length mirrors swing and they look elegant. You get the nice frame about. Okay. That's another invention that I've come up with. You, what have you done for sleep? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nada. Zero. Tony?

9:28 Drew Tanya. Tanya.

9:29 Adam Tanya? You see, I innovate in my field.

9:32 Drew Words, names. You innovate names.

9:33 Adam Forget about that. Don't digress. I innovate in my field with the Recycl-A-Rolla, with the closet doors, with the heated sofa. What do you got? Nothing. Tanya?

9:45 Yeah.

9:46 Adam 25?

9:47 Drew Radio was the big innovation.

9:48 Hawthorne Heights Yeah, yeah.

9:50 What's up?

9:51 Adam What's up?

9:53 I'm frustrated.

9:54 Hawthorne Heights All right.

9:55 Adam What's up?

9:55 I have a friend who talks about how wild and crazy and freaky he used to be. He'd go to the strip clubs all the time and spend over $300 worth. And then, so I'm kind of on that side too.

10:11 So I'm all excited.

10:13 And then when it comes to me, it's like he acts like he's 60 years old. I'll probably get sex probably once a month and that's okay with him. I can't live like that. I just want to know what's wrong with him.

10:25 Drew This is your boyfriend?

10:27 This is my boyfriend.

10:28 Drew You guys live together?

10:29 No, we do not.

10:30 Adam How long have you been together?

10:32 A year.

10:35 Hawthorne Heights How old is he?

10:36 He's 30.

10:37 I'm 25. He used to play football professionally. I guess maybe he's on the down side of that. I don't know.

10:47 Drew It drives me up a lot. Listen, maybe he took steroids when he was playing in the NFL. Is that the deal? They very commonly used to ask professional athletes, not pointing fingers, commonly use steroids. When they come off, it shuts things down.

11:02 Adam Really?

11:03 Drew Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've treated guys who have permanent problems.

11:07 Adam Is it a rectile difficulty?

11:09 Drew The testes shrink, the drive is down, their rectile problems. It shuts the drive down.

11:12 Adam Very common. Drive and driver.

11:16 He talks like it's just, I'm just, and I'm like, okay, put your money in my pocket, I can strip too. I mean, I'm in shape, I don't get it.

11:23 Drew Yeah, but your stripping is a different issue.

11:25 Adam I have a listen, Tonya, here's the thing. If you've been with a guy for only a year and you're not living together, and you're both young, and he's good for once a month.

11:34 Drew He's doing something with somebody else, the words of me.

11:36 Adam That's possible, but either he's very depressed or this thing is winding down.

11:41 Drew He's either not the boyfriend. But keep in mind the possibility that he may be, as you say, on the downside of having been in the NFL.

11:50 Adam Well, he didn't necessarily play in the NFL.

11:54 Yeah. Well, yeah, he did.

11:55 Adam Well, he did.

11:56 Yeah.

11:57 Adam Well, he said professional football, but you know, he could play arena football, he could play Canadian football.

12:01 No, professional.

12:01 And then he went to Canada.

12:04 Hawthorne Heights Well, there you go.

12:05 Adam Okay. Tanya, I know you're frustrated and you think, well, what's up? And he talks a good game and all that stuff. I think you need to have a discussion about where you guys are going. You've been together for a year. You're not living together. Are you planning on getting married?

12:19 Yeah, that's what he's saying.

12:21 Drew All right, well, that and then get him to a doctor and get him to be honest with the doctors.

12:25 I can't marry you if you, I mean, I just can't do it. I mean, that's going to make me want to cheat. I can't do it.

12:31 Hawthorne Heights Which NFL team was it?

12:32 Adam Yeah.

12:32 What kind of who?

12:33 Which NFL team was it?

12:35 Adam So we can put a helmet on.

12:35 The New York Giants, the New York Giants.

12:38 Adam Giants, all right. Put the helmet on the penis. So, Tanya, you need to just have, here's, okay, please take this advice. Do not intimidate him or shame him. Don't be yelling.

12:51 Don't bring it up because I think I'm going to scare him.

12:54 Adam Well, no, but look.

12:55 Drew Bring it up.

12:56 Adam No, bring it up. No, Tanya, here's what you don't. But don't get into that. I'll strip or what's wrong with you or why aren't you into me or you talk a good game but you got no game, all that stuff. Leave all that aside. Say, look, I love you. We've been together for a year. We're looking at moving forward. We're looking at getting serious. We're looking at getting married. But I don't want to get married until we resolve this issue.

13:19 Drew Yeah. But once you got no play, playa. And do you have a-

13:21 Adam Talk to me. Yes.

13:23 Drew Do you have a medical problem or is this relationship really what you want it to be? Right.

13:26 Adam Is there something you need from me or do you need to get an evaluation? I want to help you. Don't shame him. Don't intimidate him. Just work with him.

13:34 Drew Stuff is treatable to the residual effects of steroids.

13:37 Hawthorne Heights Yeah. All right.

13:38 Adam It is. With what?

13:40 Drew Depends what the issue is. There's lots of different problems.

13:42 Hawthorne Heights There.

13:44 Adam Kelly?

13:45 Yeah.

13:46 Adam 21?

13:47 Yep. Yeah.

13:49 Drew Kelly, what's up?

13:52 When I was, from the time I was 16 to the time I was 18, I was with this guy. When I was 17, he, I guess you would have to call it right because we were fooling around. I said I didn't want to go any further. He went further anyway. And, you know, when I was like, you know, Al, stop. This isn't what I want. He's like, well, you know, you don't have anything to do now. But I stayed with him for a while.

14:13 Drew You don't have any what?

14:14 I was a virgin when we were together. And then, you know, I kind of wanted to stay that way for a while. But we were fooling around and, you know, he took it further. And, you know, when I told him to stop, he's like, you know, why? You're not a virgin anymore anyway. Now it doesn't matter. That was the whole thing. And his whole thing. But we stayed together.

14:30 Adam Well, why? Why weren't you a virgin?

14:32 Drew You told him to stop after he had penetrated you?

14:34 Yes, after he penetrated.

14:36 Drew Okay. Well, that's not rape then. That's...

14:39 Adam Well, everything's rape.

14:40 Drew, I've learned that.

14:41 I told him I didn't want to have intercourse. And we were just fooling around and it was imposed upon me.

14:49 Adam You got to understand though, Kelly, there's a Hyman math here that's a little bit hard to decipher. Because when you say, I was a virgin and then he started raping me and I told him to stop and he said, doesn't matter, you're not a virgin anymore. He was having sex with you at that time.

15:04 Yeah.

15:05 Adam Right. Okay. What were you doing before you got to the raping part?

15:11 We were just trying to, I mean, before the whole enforcement thing happened, we were just fooling around, hand job or all that sort of thing. I mean, I was virgin on a technicality. I just didn't want to, I wasn't ready to go that far.

15:24 Adam Hold on a second. One thing, here's the deal, everybody. There's just the leap for guys, especially guys who, guys are like outboard motors.

15:38 Drew Yeah, that's it.

15:41 Adam Third pole, third pole, once they're going.

15:43 Drew That propeller is going to slice you up.

15:45 Adam Once it's fired up, once that motor is running, it's-

15:47 Drew Women don't understand that.

15:48 Adam There ain't no towel big enough or wet enough to stop it.

15:51 Drew I mean, they're naked and engaging in oral sex. It's just like, whoa, whoa, you should never have gotten there, anywhere near that.

15:58 Adam Now, that being said, still everything is rape. What I'm doing to Drew right now with my eyes?

16:03 Drew Violent.

16:04 Adam Rape.

16:04 Drew Violent. Did you come?

16:06 Adam I just did, yeah. See, it's an act of violence. That's rape.

16:10 Hawthorne Heights Here's my point.

16:11 Adam Back in the day, you would be fooling around with somebody. The hand would grab a boob outside the sweater, you make that honk, honk, make that honking sound. Then she'd say like, I'm not that kind of girl and then-

16:23 Drew You'd stop.

16:24 Adam Or you would get raped.

16:26 Drew Right.

16:27 Adam Now, you're 69-ing a guy in a parking lot and he raped me. You know what I mean? I mean, it's like you're blowing a guy and that's cool, but now he raped me. Look, he should stop whenever you say stop, but when your mouth is on his penis for your own edification.

16:48 Drew Right. Everyone listen.

16:50 Adam Ladies listen, when a guy has his penis in your mouth and the guy's 18 and the guy's had three Mickey's big mouths.

16:57 Drew If you guys don't have any clothes on.

16:58 Adam And everyone's naked and you say stop, he's going to have, most guys will have a lot of trouble with stopping. Not saying it's right.

17:07 Drew Just biologically.

17:08 Adam Saying it is a boulder that got rolling down a hill and you're now trying to jump in front of it. Yes?

17:18 Drew Yes, it's hard to even.

17:19 Adam Still rape. Everything's rape.

17:21 Drew Yes, yes, everything. But it's hard to imagine how.

17:24 Adam As a man of passion and even a doctor, Drew.

17:27 Drew It's shocking that women can't appreciate that and they need to not put themselves in those situations if that's what they want to do.

17:33 Adam Do not give the guy oral and then expect him to stop.

17:38 Drew Well, the oral thing, that's one thing, but to be naked with a guy.

17:41 Adam I mean, oh, yeah.

17:42 Drew Naked with a guy.

17:43 Adam Don't get naked and perform oral and expect the stoppage part.

17:47 Drew Because that's really all the stops, guys, is the clothing.

17:49 Adam Yeah.

17:50 Drew That's about all that's got, you know, between you and them.

17:52 Adam No, you can't, couldn't make it through those gouges. Had to get a running start. Kelly?

18:00 Yeah.

18:01 Adam So anyway.

18:02 I was reluctant actually to call it rape.

18:05 It's just that's the easiest way.

18:06 Adam Well, I just don't want, you know, I don't want you to walk around with that label.

18:10 Oh, no, I mean, I don't usually call it. It's just that's the easiest way to.

18:14 Adam You know, I came up with this thing, Rape Light, a few years ago. It didn't catch on like I'd hoped.

18:18 Drew No.

18:19 Adam But anyway, after you were done blowing him, he raped you.

18:24 Pretty, well, pretty much. I mean, it wasn't violent. It was just unpleasant and unasked for.

18:29 Adam He didn't, yes, he should have stopped when you said stop.

18:32 Drew That was right in the end.

18:33 I mean, we have the understanding before we ever started blowing around that I didn't want to go that far. But I mean, that's not what my problem is. I mean, it's not like he stuffed a pillow in my mouth and held me down or anything.

18:44 It wasn't violent.

18:45 Drew Had you been victimized at any other time in your life prior to that?

18:49 No.

18:51 Adam So now what's the problem or the question?

18:54 Well, we broke up over something completely unrelated to that incident, but I always held a grudge against him for it. After we broke up, we were still hanging out. It was amicable. And then he kept trying to re-engage in a relationship with me. And I'll just out of nowhere, I really don't want to be in a relationship with him. It's gotten to the point that I don't even like him as a person.

19:19 But I still go over and sleep with him.

19:23 Drew That's trauma stuff, Kelly.

19:25 Adam Well, he took her virginity and that's that weird reenactment thing going on.

19:29 Drew People that reenact in that kind of situation are reenacting something from the past.

19:34 Adam Kelly, anything we need to know about in the past?

19:39 Drew That would make you to compulsively reenact a traumatic experience.

19:44 I never had any other sexual trauma growing up.

19:47 Adam All right. Any alcoholism? No.

19:52 I got hit by a train once, but that's about it.

19:55 Drew Nice.

19:56 Adam I'm guessing it killed them, right?

19:59 Yeah.

20:00 Adam What happened?

20:02 The guy getting hit by a train?

20:03 Adam Yeah.

20:08 I was five years old, but we were in the car and we stopped at some train tracks, but some guy just jumped out in front of a train. My mom was a medic in the military, and then she was there, so of course, she jumped out to go see if she could render aid, which was silly of her. Then I followed being five years old. That's, yeah, that was fun.

20:28 Adam Yeah. Are you mad at your mom?

20:31 No. I love my mom. She's awesome.

20:33 Adam She did what she could do.

20:35 Drew What's up with your dad?

20:37 My dad is also very wonderful and supportive.

20:39 Adam Okay. I'm going to yell at Drew. Look, Drew, here's what happened. She has an attraction to a guy. She's been with him for a few years. B, she's returning to the scene of the crime a little bit. She feels, you ever watch these stupid ghost movies, and it's always like, well, why can't the ghost leave? Because he's not free.

20:56 Hawthorne Heights I know.

20:57 Adam He's got unfinished business. His life was taken, so he's staying, and he stays in the house. I like the way everyone buys into that crap.

21:04 Hawthorne Heights I know.

21:04 Adam What happens when you die? Well, you go off somewhere else. Well, why are ghosts staying here? Because they have unfinished business here. But that's what she is. She's haunting this guy's scrotum. You know what I mean?

21:15 Drew There is no doubt that people do that. Yeah, chicks especially. Absolutely. But they do it characteristically when it's a second trauma after something earlier. But okay.

21:22 Adam Yes, true. But this isn't an all-out whatever, because this wasn't an all-out rape, and this was a boyfriend, and she has some, she's damn, she's damn, bivalent, and that creates attraction in a lot of women.

21:32 Drew Yes, it does. And people think of it in terms of trying to make something right that it feels really wrong and bad. That's one way to think of it. I'm not sure that even, to try to make rational, to make reason out of human behavior is sometimes a huge mistake.

21:44 Adam Right.

21:45 Drew Fact is, we're just describing what people do, it's what they do.

21:47 Adam Right.

21:48 Drew And go ahead and stop. It's not a good thing. It's very unhealthy. It will drive you into feeling of low, low self-esteem and disgust.

21:53 Adam You know, the guys who get laid the most evoke some sort of unfinished business slash hatred slash I've got to go back and fix something, I've got to control it, you know. That's why I never got laid. My thing was always, hey, how about Adam Corolla?

22:13 Who? Who?

22:15 Drew Didn't evoke any drama.

22:17 Adam That dude, Brillohead?

22:20 Drew Cone-over guy?

22:21 Adam What's he doing? Yeah, that's right. What you want is, I gotta get through to him, man. He's a Rubik's Cube, man. I gotta get those colors to line up. If I could do one more try, I could fix everything.

22:34 Drew Now, I don't want people to say that we made any issue of this rape incident.

22:38 Adam Well, too late, Drew.

22:39 Drew No, I'm saying, it was a bad thing. I traumatized her, it's a bad thing.

22:43 Adam Yeah, medium bad, not as well.

22:45 Drew She by herself says, not horrible, but I want to make the point strongly that, yeah, it's bad for a guy. No means no, period, that's the end of the story. But please, ladies, please understand the male biology and to stay out of its way.

22:57 Adam Yeah, I think rape is a good thing. Now, that was completely out of context.

23:03 Drew I know we just did that, but rape is a violent crime. I'm a rapist. No, rape is a violent crime.

23:09 Adam It's a violent crime. It is. It's not a sexual crime.

23:13 Drew No, nothing sexual about it.

23:14 Hawthorne Heights Not sexual.

23:16 Adam You come at the end, but it's violent.

23:19 Drew But it's just not sexual. It's not sexual. But it includes ejaculation.

23:25 Adam You ejaculate.

23:26 Drew But it's a violent crime.

23:27 Adam Well, violent, like any other violent crime.

23:29 Drew It's like if you walked in a liquor store, pistol whip the guy.

23:32 Adam And ejaculate. Well, I'd say more like an angry mob. Like an angry mob. Remember during the race riots when they pulled Reginald Denny out of his truck?

23:42 Drew Yes.

23:45 Adam And they threw the cinder block on him. If all those young black men had ejaculated.

23:50 Drew The same thing.

23:51 Adam The same.

23:52 Drew Exact same. And in rape, no one experiences any sexual satisfaction, the guy ejaculating.

23:57 Adam No. No.

23:59 Drew Because it's violent. Nothing sexual about it, it's just violence.

24:00 Adam Not for him. It's violence where you come. It's blood in a pool of semen. It's basically what it is, Drew. I'm glad we've got this right now. All right. Where are we? Does anyone bring that crap up anymore? It's not a sexual crime, it's a violent crime?

24:17 Drew Of course.

24:19 Adam We just make fun of it because it is sexual to the guys that are coming.

24:23 Drew Of course.

24:24 Adam That's their thing. That's why they do it.

24:26 Drew Yeah. That's why they do it. To get to that thing.

24:28 Adam To have the orgasm. It doesn't make them right.

24:30 No.

24:30 Drew It doesn't make it not violent and aggressive. It's an aggressive act, but it's sexual. That means no mistake.

24:35 Adam It's sexual because the penis is in somebody.

24:38 Drew And there's something coming out of the penis.

24:39 Adam Thank you. All right. Call me a stickler for details, but to me when semen is shooting out of your penis, I'm going to go ahead and call that a sexual crime.

24:49 Drew Or sexual experience anyway.

24:50 Adam I know I'm wild. I know it seems way out there.

24:54 Drew You're judging again. I cannot judge. You're profiling. It's impossible to judge. You're offending me.

24:58 Adam All right.

24:59 Hawthorne Heights Let's think about it. All right.

25:00 Adam Been addicted to what is that?

25:03 Drew Anime.

25:04 Adam Oh, that's anime? Boy, I can't read.

25:07 Drew What would you say though?

25:09 Adam Well, I don't know what. I've never seen it. A-N-I-M-E.

25:15 Drew I just said an accent that way.

25:17 Adam Oh, should there be an accent?

25:19 Drew That would make it all clear to you then?

25:20 Adam Oh, well, yes, it would. Well, no, I said an-a-N-I-M. If you put the, you put the oom-lots over there, I'm good. You put the accent over the E, yeah. Put that over there. Yeah. Like, like Esty.

25:33 Drew Yeah.

25:33 Adam All right. We'll take ourselves a quick break.

25:35 Drew Chilidenko?

25:36 Adam Come on, buddy.

25:37 Drew Really?

25:37 Adam Come on. Hawthorne Heights going to be in here in a couple of few, fresh off their triumphant rocking of the Jimmy Kimmel Live audience. We'll be right back after this.

25:50 The phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191.

26:24 Adam Hey, everybody, it's Love Line, man. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191er, Hawthorne Heights in studio tonight, fresh off of Rockin. Jimmy Kimmel Live, JT Woodruff is here. Well, that's a name. I'll tell you, JT Woodruff. JT Woodruff.

26:42 Drew Sounds like the Secretary of State under Buchanan.

26:46 Adam Yeah, he could do that. Or a guy who played some free safety for Oklahoma in the 70s. Not the speed, but this guy hit. Oh, he was a...

26:55 Drew Treasury tech secretary for Rutherford B. Hayes.

26:59 Adam Now, I'm still on football. Best special teams player of the year. In the pine grove. This guy, like I said, not the flat out speed, not the 100 speed, but a good quick first step and this guy would bust a wedge.

27:11 Drew Either Raiders uniform or Steelers uniform.

27:14 Adam He couldn't play pro. He couldn't play pro. He didn't have the wheels to play in the pro league. No, he had decent size. He just didn't have the wheels. He just couldn't play back then. But I'll tell you, this guy hit. This guy hit. He was a team player.

27:27 Drew All it took back then was that drive, that heart.

27:29 Adam Bust a wedge going down on special teams. You know what I mean? Used his body like, he would just. Spear. Yep. He would hurl himself. He would hurl himself. And then he got a lot of spearing calls. Yeah, hit him with the top of the helmet. Yeah, reckless abandon this guy played with. Great player, JT, big fan. Welcome to the show buddy.

27:51 Thanks a lot man, what can I say?

27:53 Adam What can I say, Drew's senior. I saw you in your college years. Drew loved what you did in government. All your political career.

28:00 Just missed the pros.

28:01 Adam Casey Calvert is here too. Casey also could play a little DB in a Big Ten school. Casey Calvert, who do you got in the backfield?

28:10 Drew Oklahoma.

28:11 Adam Oklahoma, well, we got Casey Calvert back there. We got JT Woodruff too, with outstanding DBs in the Pioneer League. These two, boy, you'll know when they hit ya. I'll tell ya what, yeah, how about that?

28:25 Drew Casey could be a baseball player too.

28:27 Adam Casey also plays first base on the teams. No, he didn't make the pros, he never made the pros.

28:34 Drew He was far league for the Padres.

28:35 Adam Yeah, he made AAA squad, but he played both.

28:38 Drew Why do you exes both these guys out of the pros?

28:42 We didn't pan out.

28:43 Drew They're too young?

28:45 I don't have the speed, apparently.

28:47 Adam Well, JT doesn't have the wheels and Casey blew out at knee.

28:51 Drew Okay.

28:53 Adam Senior year.

28:54 Drew Fair enough.

28:55 Adam Senior, Casey was the up man on the punt formation. He would call the signals out. Guy coming wide, lay him out, and then get down there and cover that punt.

29:06 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

29:06 Drew Perfect.

29:07 Hawthorne Heights All right.

29:08 Adam Well, we've covered that then. I've decided what you guys should have been doing. Not bad rock star names, I got to say, but better 70s college football player. Hawthorne Heights is from the, where are you guys from?

29:21 Hawthorne Heights Ohio.

29:23 Adam Yeah. In this first CD and you going out on the Warped Tour. You just got off the Warped Tour. Sorry.

29:28 Drew Where in Ohio?

29:29 Dayton, Ohio.

29:31 Adam That's the biggest. Is that the biggest?

29:33 Hawthorne Heights What's the, what?

29:35 Adam Cleveland? Cincinnati. Cincinnati, Columbus. Where's Dayton going though? Fifth?

29:39 Drew Fourth or something.

29:40 It's probably fourth or fifth or something.

29:43 Adam You got, yeah, that was stupid. And you know what? I never think of Cleveland as being in Ohio.

29:47 Drew But Ohio is a very populated state. So we say Ohio, it's like, I don't know, California. It's like, hmm.

29:52 Hawthorne Heights All right.

29:52 Adam You know the two cities that don't seem like they're from the right state? Detroit doesn't seem like it should be in Michigan.

29:58 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

29:59 Drew It should be in Ohio.

30:01 Adam No. Detroit should be in New Jersey or something. You know what I mean? Detroit. When you think Detroit, Michigan, you don't think Great Lakes. You know what I mean? And as much as you guys know from looking at maps, I'm telling you, I got a fresh mind. I don't know anything. Cleveland and Detroit don't seem like Ohio and Michigan. They seem like she's moved toward the east.

30:22 Yeah.

30:22 Adam A little further.

30:23 Yeah.

30:23 Adam Yeah. Thank you.

30:25 Drew Cleveland should be where Pittsburgh is.

30:27 Adam That's right.

30:27 Yeah.

30:28 Adam That's right.

30:28 Yeah.

30:29 Adam Shouldn't be in Ohio.

30:30 Drew You're right.

30:31 Thank you. I say we get rid of them.

30:32 Adam Let's get rid of them. You guys go back to playing ball. You'll be coaching now. You're an alma mater now. DB coach, special teams coach. So you guys played Kimmel tonight, and they were saying Vivica A. Fox was on the show, and she stormed out.

30:47 Drew Yeah. During the commercial, or right in the middle of the show?

30:49 I think it was during the commercial, but you know how they're supposed to have all their guests sit there the entire time? Yeah. They made a little scene.

30:59 Drew You sure it wasn't just a planned thing?

31:00 No, no, it definitely wasn't. She was mad. She was yelling in the parking lot. She was not having a good time.

31:06 Adam Oh, in the parking lot? Wow.

31:07 She wasn't having a good time. She was in front of an Escalade.

31:10 Drew Did she let any of that loose on the show?

31:15 You can tell she was getting a little steamed.

31:17 Drew What did he say? What did Jimmy say?

31:18 I don't know. I didn't even hear.

31:18 Adam He dropped the N word. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's very insensitive.

31:22 He said something about Star Jones.

31:24 Adam Hey, nigger.

31:25 I don't even really know who that is.

31:27 Adam Yeah. He's not a big fan of Star Jones, and he shouldn't be a big fan of Star Jones because Star Jones just seems like a narcissistic lunatic. I know there's that thing where it's like, oh, that's a very popular way to be these days, Adam.

31:41 Drew I mean, we'll go through the dial a couple of times.

31:44 Adam She was talking about her wedding for 22 years before it actually went down. It just, here's my whole thing. I don't know what it is, but I believe when you get married, you should invite your friends and your family, and you should shut the F up about it. You just shouldn't be waving your ring around everyone. You shouldn't have your cake decorators to do the first segment on your TV show. It's always weird to me when people are doing something and then calling attention to it.

32:15 Drew By the way, shouldn't that be the death knell of your program, that you have nothing else to talk about but your cake decorator?

32:20 Adam It makes you wonder about whoever it is who married the crazy broad, which is my first mandate would be, look honey, you're 310 pounds. I don't need a lot of S at the office. Let's be real stealthy about this. You know what I mean? I don't even want to wear ranks. You keep your original name, it'll be nice and cool. Copacetic, two bedrooms, mom's the word, Bob's your uncle. Let's keep moving. You know what I mean? I don't want you broadcasting it literally every single morning for the six months leading up to the nuptials. It just seems crazy.

32:54 Drew But then it becomes acceptable television. That's even more nutty to me.

32:59 Adam Then it's like you turn on Entertainment Tonight, it's like we're at the Britney Spears wedding baby shower, and they're there, and the camera is going, this is my bed. It's weird when it's personal stuff like kids, babies, weddings, and you've invited the entire camera crews, and Entertainment Tonight, people, and us is covering it. It just seems so narcissistic, and sort of invasive, and stuff. Shouldn't you hate that? Intrusive? All right. So I'm with Jimmy.

33:33 I don't even know who she is.

33:34 Yeah. Yeah.

33:36 Adam Me neither.

33:37 We know her name is Star. That's all we know.

33:40 What does she do?

33:41 Adam She's on The View, I believe.

33:43 Was she the one that was on Touched by an Angel? Was that a show?

33:47 Adam No. No, that's De La Reese.

33:48 Hawthorne Heights Oh.

33:50 Adam I was thinking of a large black one.

33:52 What do you want, Drew?

33:53 Adam I should get points for that.

33:55 When's The View on? Is that like a morning? Yeah. Yeah. I'm real fed. Yeah.

34:00 Adam You guys are rock stars.

34:01 Drew I'm surprised that Jimmy could- He sleeps till noon.

34:04 We watch the game show network exclusively. That's funny.

34:07 Adam Yeah. What do you watch on that?

34:09 Lingo.

34:10 Adam Lingo?

34:10 You guys like Lingo?

34:11 Adam Where's your Lingo from?

34:13 It's present, man. Chuck Woolery.

34:14 Adam Oh, new Lingo. I thought the game show network just showed reruns of like Cattletails and stuff.

34:19 Drew Buddy Kennedy does shows there all the time with them.

34:21 Hawthorne Heights Oh, really?

34:22 Adam Dear friend.

34:23 Hawthorne Heights All right.

34:24 Adam So you watch new shows on the game show network.

34:26 Yeah.

34:26 Adam Okay.

34:27 I'll tell you what's not as good though, Whammy. Remember Pressure Luck? It's called Whammy. Not cool.

34:33 Adam No. Not good.

34:34 Not cool.

34:35 Drew These guys like games, Adam.

34:36 Adam They do.

34:37 Drew We got games.

34:37 Adam Oh, we got games. We got Germany or Florida. We should round up at Germany or Florida.

34:43 Drew Should we do a Ranchero countdown?

34:44 Adam We got Aces Mexican, Ranchero, Accordion Countdown. It's another exciting game. I don't know if we're-

34:50 Aces, Ranchero, Countdown. No good. You don't like that game.

34:53 Adam I'm not sure if that's something that's in a repertoire tonight, but we'll go for it if we can.

34:58 Drew We've got to figure that out. Maybe we've got something.

34:59 Adam Yeah. All right. Where are we?

35:01 Drew Taking calls.

35:02 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

35:03 Adam If we want, we could call engineer Chris up and have- Oh no, that's right. He was only here for nine months when we did that. Never figured out how to work that goddamn card machine.

35:11 Hawthorne Heights That's right.

35:13 Adam I miss that kid. Okay. So wait, let me give a little plug to Hawthorne Heights. The band is heading out on their North American tour and they're going to the UK, Peru.

35:24 Drew Nice.

35:25 Adam Yeah, that's in Ohio.

35:30 Drew Sounds like it should be in Michigan.

35:31 Adam No, University of Kentucky is where it should be. They're going out on a UK tour and we'll hear something off the CD and all that stuff, all right? We cool? Sorry, we just talked about Star Jones for the first 20 minutes.

35:44 We at least have some context to the controversy we were a part of.

35:47 Adam Right.

35:48 That's very good.

35:48 Adam Yeah, they're going to be on Kimmel tonight, so watch that. As a matter of fact, you can watch my show, Too Late with Adam Corolla on Comedy Central.

35:56 Drew With the sound down.

35:57 Adam With the sound down, you listen to this show. Then you switch on over to Kimmel, you watch the Uncomfortable Silence with Vivica A. Fox, and then you watch Hawthorne Heights, Rock the Crown. Yes? Yes. Do you guys play outside or inside?

36:12 Outside.

36:12 Adam Yeah, nice. That means you've arrived.

36:15 Hopefully, it was a lot of fun. Our first time ever being on TV.

36:19 Adam Oh, really?

36:20 Well, as far as late night TV playing the shows, we've never done that before.

36:24 Adam Lisa?

36:25 Hi.

36:26 Adam You're 19?

36:27 Yes.

36:28 Adam What's up?

36:28 Okay. First, I want to say, Dr. Drew, you are super hot, and Adam, the black chicks out here really do love you.

36:34 Adam Oh, really? See, I always had a sneaking suspicion that the black folks were into me. Oh, no, you didn't. Yeah. I love you. Thank you, sweetie pie. Yeah. It's because I got the brilliantly hair, and I speak my mind, and I like cars.

36:50 Drew All right, Lisa, what's going on?

36:51 Adam God, Lisa.

36:51 Yeah, I have this crazy obsession with anime porn, and it's getting out of control. Like, I've literally been late for work trying to get like that last 10 or 15 minutes in just watching it, because that's the only way I can get off. Wow.

37:06 Drew It's you.

37:06 Adam I, you know, the blacks with their obsession, young blacks with their obsession with the Japanese anime. It's now epidemic levels now. They just love Speed Racer, Kimba, they love it all.

37:17 Drew How long have you been into it? Since you were 15, it says here?

37:20 Yeah. It's just better than regular porn to me. Like, the people look perfect. Like, you don't have to see any ugly faces, nice bodies, or vice versa. And there's like a story line, like, it's just cool.

37:32 Drew Well, the story, the women like the story. And so I guess it's sort of geared more towards female.

37:37 The cartoons.

37:38 Drew Yeah, it's a cartoon with people's, you know, with exaggerated body features.

37:42 Adam Is it? How's the penis?

37:45 Drew I don't know. How's the penis, Lisa?

37:47 It's usually big, but like darker than the character. And he could be like really pink or peach, and his penis will be like super brown or something.

37:55 And you find that attractive?

37:58 I don't find it attractive. I just think anime porn is like beautiful. Like it's the only way.

38:02 Discolored penises are beautiful.

38:04 Drew How's the rest of your relationships? Okay.

38:06 Yeah, that's the problem. See, I had a fiance and I couldn't get off with him. Like he would do oral on me and I couldn't get off cause I was so used to masturbating to anime porn. And it like wasn't our relationship. Like he opened up the X-Files telling me how his ex loves it when they do it. And it's just really bad.

38:24 Drew Well, here's the deal.

38:24 Adam Well, wait a second. Are you used to vibrator or do you use your hand?

38:28 The vibrator.

38:30 Drew You had a transition. Why didn't you bring the vibrator in with your fiance?

38:34 Because he got like jealous of it.

38:36 Adam Oh, he did. Got drunk and fought it. Vibrator kicked his ass literally right in the ass.

38:42 Drew Literally. You need a guy that doesn't get so upset by that. Maybe you can sort of wean yourself off the vibrator. Now, I need to know more about your history.

38:49 Adam Here's the whole thing. The thing about a vibrator for a guy is it's really it's like a it's like a gun. It could be your worst nightmare or it can be your best friend. It's just whose hands is it in? You know what I mean?

39:01 Drew You don't have directions appointed.

39:03 Adam Right. You can use that thing like a conductor uses his baton.

39:07 Drew Right.

39:08 Adam And that doesn't have to be a club you're getting beat over the head with.

39:11 Drew And Lisa needs a passionate guy that's willing to do that. But here's Lisa is we need to know a little bit about your history to know if this really is a problem or not. Do you have any sexual abuse when you're growing up?

39:20 Caller I wasn't subjected to sexual abuse, but I did see my sister when I was about six or seven. I saw her get sexually abused or murdered.

39:29 Drew And murdered?

39:29 Caller Yeah.

39:30 Drew Whoa.

39:31 Adam And murdered.

39:32 Drew Oh my god.

39:33 Adam Who did this to her?

39:34 Caller At the time, until I was 14, I thought it was my mother, but I was adopted by my auntie.

39:41 Drew Oh. Hold on.

39:41 Adam Hold on a second.

39:42 Drew We got to get to this.

39:42 Adam Hold on a second. Don't hang up on Lisa. We got to put her on hold. You know, I have this horribly racist thought, but the blacks, everyone's...

39:53 Drew Just referring to it as the blacks.

39:54 Adam Everyone's...

39:55 Drew Already offensive.

39:56 Adam Here's what I want to know. You tell me how it's mathematically possible for an entire race to be raised by their aunts. How does that work? Do they have some sort of child exchange program where if they're two sisters and they both have three kids, you just raise my three kids, I'll raise your three kids. That way we're covered. Everyone gets raised by their aunt?

40:13 Drew No, I think there's sort of a ladder. You move up, you like roll over that bed game, somebody falls out of bed. One person doesn't have kids.

40:20 Adam I'm just saying, how is it mathematically possible for everybody to be raised by their aunt?

40:25 Drew All that has to happen is one person's a total F up and one person doesn't have kids and then it rolls up.

40:30 Adam Who doesn't have kids? That's what I'm saying. We think there's some 30-year-old black chick doesn't have kids? No, they exchange, Drew. Do the math.

40:40 Hawthorne Heights All right, they exchange.

40:42 Adam Oh, well whose math makes more sense? Thank you. You know I'm right. No, I just think they exchange. I think that's how it works. I think, you know, I'll crap out a few kids, I'll give them to my sister, my sister will give them her kids to me and they're going to be raised by their aunt.

40:58 Caller It's a time-tested tale.

41:00 Adam Well, how else could it work? Drew, you know I'm right.

41:03 Drew You're right.

41:04 Adam All right, Hawthorne Heights in the studio tonight. Lisa, don't hang up. I want to get back to this tragic story and we'll get to that after this. Hey, buddy, it's Love Line, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LLVE-191, Hawthorne Heights. In studio tonight, the silence of Black and White, name of the CD, JT Woodruff, one of the hardest-hitting free safeties in the Big Eight, is here representing in Casey Calvert. Casey, like I said, great up man, not the wheels you'd like, not the moves, he's North and South type runner, good solid punt returner. 26 games in the Pioneer League never lost a ball, never muffed a punt.

42:19 Drew It was 27.

42:20 Adam 27, I'm sorry, games in the Pioneer League, never called for a fair catch, never muffed one fumble.

42:25 Drew It's amazing.

42:26 Adam Never muffed a punt.

42:27 Drew Amazing.

42:28 Adam Yeah, average 12.3 every return. Tough as nails.

42:30 Drew Wow.

42:31 Adam Number three in the Pioneer League.

42:32 Hawthorne Heights Never.

42:32 Adam Yeah, awesome, awesome tough guys.

42:34 Hawthorne Heights I want to hear about Lisa's sister. Huh?

42:36 Drew Lisa.

42:37 Hawthorne Heights Did she play ball? No. Okay.

42:39 Adam Let's talk to-

42:40 Caller Did not make it.

42:41 Adam Lisa, who's 19.

42:43 Drew Who's addicted to anime porn.

42:44 Adam Addicted to anime porn.

42:45 Drew Was beginning to tell us a rather extraordinary story.

42:48 Adam About her sister being sexually abused and murdered.

42:51 Caller Took a hell of a twist, didn't it?

42:52 Adam Yeah. What happened?

42:55 Caller Well, I was about six or seven and she wasn't brutally murdered, but she was tortured pretty bad, which wasn't a big surprise to me because we were all abused very bad, but I wasn't.

43:08 Adam So what happened?

43:09 Caller I literally saw them stick like a broomstick up her butt. But like, I remember these things like she was tortured that bad.

43:16 Caller And then who tortured her?

43:18 Caller My auntie. But at the time, I thought that was my mother.

43:21 Adam What happened to your mother?

43:22 Caller Well, I found out when I was 14 that she was raped when she had me, like walking home or something. She was always a promiscuous lady, but she was raped and she was going to not have me. So my auntie stepped in and was like, you know, I don't want to go through having another child, just give her to me. And until I was 14, I was in a foster home, and that's when they told me that that's not my mother.

43:45 Adam Did your mom have any kids ever?

43:50 Caller She has 12 kids. She just had a child.

43:55 Adam How many kids?

43:56 Caller Yeah, and they're all in the system. We all have different fathers. Our oldest is 24, and her youngest is...

44:01 Adam Okay, look, I don't...

44:02 Drew Man, it's the society.

44:03 Adam I don't judge, but you Jews. Jew or Asian, I don't know which one you are, but you guys, Drew, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to...

44:12 Drew Lisa, why was the auntie torturing your sister?

44:16 Caller She was just a sick person. I mean, I remember her chaining... See, there was a thing, I guess, and my older auntie told me this, that she thought she could be reborn with me, like turn into a new person. That's why I was spoiled. I got everything I wanted, beauty pads, all that. Like a good little girl, I had everything. But I remember them being chained up in closets, having to eat their own fishies.

44:37 Drew Oh my God. Lisa sounds like a sober Macy Gray.

44:41 Caller It was actually a case about it. I really don't want to get into it, but it was...

44:44 Hawthorne Heights Oh my God, my boyfriend makes me come too much.

44:47 Drew Did she die because of this broomstick?

44:49 Adam Had to eat their own fishies.

44:50 Caller Yeah, she died, and at the time, I thought she was asleep because I was so young.

44:54 Drew Because of the broomstick issue?

44:55 Caller No, no, not the broomstick. They gave her something in a drink, and she just passed out, and I thought she was asleep. I witnessed the whole thing.

45:03 Drew Wow. All right, Lisa. Here's what starts to happen when kids are-

45:07 Adam Can't judge.

45:08 Drew Yeah, can't judge.

45:09 Hawthorne Heights Possible to judge.

45:10 Caller I'm a good person.

45:12 Adam No, you sound good. I believe everything happens for a reason.

45:15 Drew You sound amazing, and it's amazing that you survived all this. But the reality is, seeing all that extraordinarily traumatic stuff at a young age changes how your brain develops. And it can make you very compulsed around things like sexuality, or drugs and alcohol, or even extreme activities of various types. Almost as though you can't experience things unless you have them extremely intensely before you. And sexual addiction is something that can definitely grow out of this. So you may want to look into this. In fact, in Torrance, there's a Delamo treatment center that's specifically there for sexual addictions.

45:51 Adam What's in Delamo? Torrance treatment center?

45:54 Caller Yes.

45:55 Adam Why put the Delamo treatment center in Torrance? Why not Delamo?

45:58 Drew I don't know. There's no Delamo.

46:00 Adam There's no Delamo?

46:01 Drew There's a Delamo Mall and Delamo. Is there a city named Delamo? No.

46:05 Adam There's got to be a city named Delamo.

46:06 Drew Everything Delamo is in Hawthorne and Torrance.

46:09 Adam Lisa. Yes. You're smart and you sound reasonably intact for someone who's had your horrible upbringing.

46:20 Drew You could close it out a little more with some treatment.

46:22 Adam You get some treatment, have a decent life for yourself, Baby Doll.

46:26 Caller Thank you.

46:27 Drew Basically, think of this as-

46:29 Adam Sound hot too.

46:29 Drew All this anime stuff is you trying to find a way to regulate feelings that are unmanageable. All right.

46:34 Adam But at this point, she's not slamming heroin and pregnant.

46:37 Drew No, it's amazing.

46:38 Adam That's a huge step up.

46:40 Drew Yes.

46:41 Adam You're the black sheep of your family for not crapping out 13 kids by the age of 19.

46:46 Drew God bless you.

46:47 Adam What are the blacks called the black sheep of their family? The white sheep?

46:49 Drew Black sheep.

46:50 Adam Really? But they're black. It's called the white sheep.

46:52 Drew We've got to take a break.

46:53 Adam You guys call the white sheep. I'm just saying it doesn't make sense. Hey, Lisa?

46:57 Caller Yes.

46:58 Adam You don't have any kids, right?

47:00 Caller No. I have my own apartment, my own car. I work and go to school. I'm doing good.

47:03 Drew God bless you. You're doing great.

47:05 Adam Take care of yourself and keep taking care of yourself.

47:07 Caller All right. Thank you.

47:08 Adam You're fine. All right. All right. Take care. Wow.

47:12 Hawthorne Heights What a story.

47:13 Adam 12 kids, though.

47:14 Hawthorne Heights God love her.

47:15 Adam All in the system.

47:15 Caller All different fathers.

47:17 Adam All different fathers. Fantastic. Is that possible? Yeah. Well, it is. It is because you can't tell anyone what to do in the society unless it's me wanting to put an addition on my garage. Then you can tell me anything you want. I just got a goddamn letter from the city telling me front fence was too high and the side fence had to come down to three and a half feet. That's fine. You're on your 11th illegitimate kid. You can't say ass. All right. Drew, and by the way, I got to show you this letter because we're going to have a Waco type standoff.

47:48 Drew Oh, yes.

47:49 Adam Oh, yes.

47:49 Drew At the new house or?

47:50 Adam Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes, Drew, because I ain't given in.

47:55 Drew Yeah.

47:55 Adam Screw that. Screw the man. Let's, Hawthorne Heights here, everybody. Take a look out there. The Delamo Heights is going to open for you. Go find out where Delamo is.

48:05 Drew It's in Hawthorne.

48:06 Adam I swear there's a Delamo. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

48:58 Drew Get It On. I love Kizzy. It's always like my Kizzer. It's always like one Zoom, one Z, one Zoom, Zoom Z. See? Yeah.

49:07 Adam Yeah.

49:08 Drew I've done that three years.

49:10 Hawthorne Heights Maybe five.

49:13 Adam See, you got the music in you.

49:16 Hawthorne Heights You understand?

49:19 Drew Read this.

49:19 Adam You know what I'm saying?

49:20 Drew Stop. Stop right there. If you had a hissy, you would be out of the house. Dr. Drew in the hissy.

49:26 Adam Yeah. One lucky person tonight will win a direct party pack. Who would have liked to have given it to, was it Lisa?

49:32 Drew Lisa, no.

49:32 Adam Yeah. Except for I forgot to read this for the first time. Party pack. Here's the thing about me forgetting to do stuff. When I don't get paid, my memory's not so good.

49:41 Drew Funny how that works.

49:41 Adam That's funny how that works. Know what I mean? I rarely forget to go to work, but I do forget certain appointments, certain dates, certain things like that, where I'm not getting paid.

49:50 Drew I have a one word response to that.

49:51 Adam Pay me.

49:52 Drew Communism.

49:53 Adam Communism. Yeah, you wonder why? Yeah, that's how communism works.

49:56 Drew That's how it works.

49:57 Adam You get paid whether you show up to work or not. Yeah.

49:59 Drew You don't show up.

50:00 Adam That's right. The Party Pack includes CDs, poker set, money, and of course, some Durex condoms. Each week, we will decide the best caller of the night.

50:10 Drew Each night, it looks like.

50:11 Adam Oh, each night this week.

50:12 Drew Yeah.

50:13 Adam We will decide the best caller of the night, and we'll award them the Party Pack. That will be 18 years of age or older. Brought to you by Durex. There's sex, and then there's Durex. All right.

50:22 Drew Pick some calls that are likely to be.

50:23 Adam Hawthorne Heights in the Hisi Night. No, we would like to. Drew, you have to sock the mic.

50:29 Drew Got it.

50:29 Adam Got to sock the mic. We're going to hear a Hawthorne Heights song.

50:33 Drew Do that first?

50:34 Adam I think we should.

50:35 Drew Yeah, because we'll forget. Because you're not being paid for it.

50:37 Adam Yeah, I'm not getting paid for it, so we'll forget. What song are we hearing off of?

50:42 Drew Ohio, strangely enough, is for lovers.

50:43 Adam Silence of black and white.

50:44 Hawthorne Heights Oh, Ohio is for lovers.

50:46 Adam All right, we're queued up.

50:47 Hawthorne Heights Right around, this is Ohio is for lovers.

54:48 Adam Yeah. Hawthorne Heights, everybody.

54:50 Drew Nice burp there, Adam. Thank you.

54:51 Adam Was that on the air?

54:52 Drew Yeah, sure was.

54:53 Adam Well, you know why? Because you made me eat that baby Ruth bar.

54:57 Drew Yeah, I made you.

54:58 Adam Ironically. Well, you said let's go find, you had to go for food like a raccoon in a dumpster.

55:04 Hawthorne Heights I found some.

55:05 Caller That's what you guys found was a baby Ruth bar.

55:07 Adam We found food. Yeah. I said to Drew, let's go back to the broadcast room. Let's go back to the studio this way. And Drew said, no, let's go this way. We'll find food.

55:16 Drew We did.

55:17 Adam And we found food because if you go through the sales office, you'll find boxes of stuff. That's the whole thing. If there's ever the nuclear holocaust or something, that's where we'll have to go. We'll live off Pepsi Free, Coke Zero, and baby Ruth bars.

55:33 Drew Coke Zero, Coke Zero, and baby Ruth, we know we got those back there all the time.

55:38 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

55:38 Drew There's a 300-plus supply of that.

55:39 Adam No, we can find a little cache of diet Red Bull or something.

55:43 Drew I'm going to get that. I'm getting Coke Zero in the next break.

55:46 Hawthorne Heights All right, buddy.

55:47 Drew Yeah.

55:47 Adam You guys want a warm Coke Zero?

55:49 Caller I had too much already tonight, actually.

55:51 Adam Let me explain, Drew. Drew would rather drink a free Coke that was 84 degrees.

55:56 Drew Boiling.

55:57 Adam That was boiling and spend 55 cents on a chilled one. Because you got a vending machine filled with Coke, Drew. Do you understand about you?

56:03 Drew Yeah, but at the zero.

56:05 Adam All right. But you would walk a quarter mile and get a warm Coke as opposed to walk over the vending machine and drop 55 cents.

56:13 Caller That's exactly how I am. I'll take the free stuff anytime, no matter what.

56:16 Drew Something just truly visceral satisfying about that.

56:19 Hawthorne Heights There is.

56:20 Adam I believe that's why, well, it's one reason why Americans are probably fat, is because there's freebies. Well, you go to the, here's the thing. If you go to a buffet and you just take one moderate serving and sit down and leave, you feel like you got ripped off. Definitely that.

56:37 Drew Have you ever just walk anywhere in this country and you see the stimulation of all the different high carb food, high sugar food, high fat food?

56:45 Adam Yeah.

56:45 Drew It's hard not to eat.

56:47 Adam It is. Well, you look at it this way. What is the big difference, if any at all, between your need to eat and F? You know what I mean? Now, if you walk everywhere and you're being bombarded with pornography, you're going to get a boner and you're going to want to do something with it. Is there a big difference? I mean, you drive, I don't know what the average person, as far as billboards go, but you pass a bunch of McDonald's and KFC and Taco Bell and all that stuff. After about three miles, you're like, I got to stop somewhere and eat something. Yeah?

57:20 Drew Yeah.

57:21 Adam What if that was just naked chicks? I guess it's that way at the airport actually.

57:26 Drew But the only thing is you wouldn't stop.

57:28 Adam No.

57:29 Drew You just do your thing right there in the car.

57:30 Adam Yeah. I'd use one of the wet wipes that the colonel gave me. I'd actually just poke my dung through the box. The chicken came in. Makes a handy. Dung. Yeah. It's a nice receptacle. And a little of that grease. You know what I mean? Yeah.

57:48 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

57:50 Adam Extra gooey. Okay.

57:53 Hawthorne Heights Megan?

57:54 Yeah.

57:55 Adam You're 27?

57:56 Caller Yes.

57:57 Hawthorne Heights All right.

57:58 Adam You're addicted to one night stands?

58:00 Caller Yeah. I've noticed I have a pattern that between my long term relationships, after we break up, there's a period of promiscuity.

58:10 Adam Yeah.

58:10 Hawthorne Heights All right.

58:11 Caller And the latest avenue to find those one night stands has been the online matchmaking sites. And that's a great way, I guess not many women want to have just one night stands. So, when I connect with these people, the guys are like, yeah, I've definitely lived in a college like that.

58:31 Adam Yeah. No, they don't go, yeah, definitely. Are you a dude? You just got your junk cut off. Okay, you cop. Let's get a ton of that. It's not like, oh, you're hot. Let's get on. You got to have the skepticism of the online purveyor of sex. Yes. You have a lot of guys asking questions?

58:51 Caller No. Nobody really ever asked. We exchange a few e-mails and then we talk on the phone a little bit and then we just meet somewhere neutral and we're like, all right, hey, whose place do you want to go to?

59:00 Adam You know what I do, Drew? When I made it, if I see like, I'm cruising online and there's some chick like me. She's like, yeah, I'm 27. I'm hot. I just got done with my boyfriend. I'm looking for one night stand, no strings attached. I'm like, this is a dude, right? She's like, no, I'm a hot chick. I'm like, okay, name two countries involved with World War II. I don't know. Okay, we're in. That's how you know. That's how you know she's a chick. You don't know anything about World War II.

59:30 Drew I'm just a little bit perplexed by all this. Megan, do you ever find you're not attracted to the guy or don't want to have sex with one of these meetings?

59:36 Caller I'm sorry. I repeat the question.

59:39 Drew Do you ever meet one of these guys in person and realize you're not attracted to them?

59:43 Caller Yeah, that's happened once. I was just up front and I'm like, I'm sorry. I don't think this is going to work. He was like, okay.

59:50 Caller Once out of how many times?

59:54 Caller One time of about eight.

59:55 Caller Ballparking.

59:58 Drew Eight times?

59:59 Caller Yeah.

1:00:00 Caller That's a pretty good ratio.

1:00:01 Caller It's been eight times in about four months. I can't really explain why I like the one night stand.

1:00:13 Caller Lack of commitment?

1:00:15 Adam Megan, I got to say something. What year was Pearl Harbor?

1:00:20 Caller Pearl Harbor was in 44, I believe.

1:00:23 Adam 44. That would have been almost the end of the war.

1:00:25 Drew She's a history teacher at local high school.

1:00:27 Adam 44.

1:00:29 Caller 1944.

1:00:30 Adam 44. Okay. That was almost the end of the war. Name the two Japanese cities we dropped atomic bomb on. Now, this you should know.

1:00:41 Caller Hiroshima.

1:00:43 Adam And?

1:00:43 Caller There's another one.

1:00:46 Caller Sorry.

1:00:47 Hawthorne Heights All right.

1:00:48 Adam See, that's my point. Now, we can get it on. Couldn't come up Nagasaki. That's solid too. All right. That's solid. That's a hot chick right there. No dude pretending to be a chick. That's a chick.

1:01:00 Drew All right, Megan, first of all, you get the condoms.

1:01:02 Adam Yeah, we're giving you the Durex condoms. What do you look like?

1:01:05 Caller Well, I'm 5'7, 140, C-cup, short brown hair, green eyes.

1:01:14 Caller How much junk is in the trunk? How much junk is in the trunk?

1:01:19 Caller I have a nice small butt. The big area is probably my hips.

1:01:24 Hawthorne Heights All right.

1:01:26 Caller Let's use those condoms then.

1:01:27 Drew That's what Adam calls haunchy.

1:01:30 Adam How many times have you done this?

1:01:39 Caller With online people, about 12.

1:01:44 Drew How many times have you done it overall between these longer-term relationships?

1:01:54 Caller Oh, I broke up with my high school boyfriend. I was promiscuous, then I had a six-year relationship, and then I was promiscuous, and now this one ended, and now there's more promiscuity.

1:02:03 Drew By promiscuity, you do this 10 or 12 times? You do it 100 times?

1:02:07 Caller No, I've met 12 individuals in about a six-month period online.

1:02:14 Drew Megan, but is that typical for your interim experience between relationships?

1:02:19 Caller Yeah, that sounds about average.

1:02:20 Drew All right. It's usually about six months before you get in a relationship again?

1:02:24 Caller Yeah.

1:02:25 Drew All right. Provided that there was no trauma like sexual abuse or physical abuse, it just sounds like you are panicked to be alone. You were in a complete and total panic.

1:02:35 Caller Well, you know, and I think that might be a little inaccurate. I do live alone. I enjoy living alone.

1:02:43 Caller You just don't like to sleep alone.

1:02:44 Adam Right.

1:02:45 Caller Maybe. I sound like I, well, yeah.

1:02:47 Adam What do you do for a living?

1:02:51 Caller I'm afraid to say because I might give away my identity too much. I'm in the medical field.

1:02:56 Adam The medical field?

1:02:58 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

1:02:59 Adam So you're an educated woman?

1:03:01 Caller Well, yeah, and I'm educated and, you know.

1:03:04 Adam I mean, obviously, you know that World War II started when the Japan bombed Pearl Harbor in 1944.

1:03:10 Drew Were you, again, were you traumatized growing up? You must have been some trauma.

1:03:13 Caller Well, I don't believe I had any sexual trauma.

1:03:17 Drew Well, I didn't say necessarily sexual trauma. I'm thinking more about abandonment, abandonment, neglect.

1:03:21 Caller Yeah. The only thing I can think of, both my parents worked at night. My mother went back to school when I was 12, and I helped raise my little sisters. They were my younger than I.

1:03:29 Adam Latchkey, Drew.

1:03:30 Caller You know, I felt very loved, and I knew my parents loved me, but you know, I didn't see them a lot.

1:03:35 Adam All right. You know, you're a little bit of a loner.

1:03:39 Drew Yeah, but here's the deal. I get the sense that yes, you're comfortable being alone because you're used to being alone, but you're in a panic about being alone. You only know how to make human contact in sort of a surgical strike.

1:03:50 Adam Yeah.

1:03:50 Drew Go ahead and get it and get back from it, because God knows if you actually have a relationship, it's going to leave. And then somehow you overcome that somehow with your relationship. You are able to have them, so it's a funny situation, Megan.

1:04:04 Caller I don't have abandonment issues when I'm in a relationship, so I feel very successful.

1:04:07 Drew No, I know. That's my point. You have them when you're not.

1:04:10 Adam Here's the thing, Megan. You're looking at this as a problem.

1:04:14 Caller I think it is.

1:04:15 Adam Okay. So it's time for you to treat it like anything in life, where you see it as a problem, and it's potentially dangerous.

1:04:22 Drew And get evaluated.

1:04:23 Adam And start working on it.

1:04:25 Drew Well, just get an evaluation, first of all. I'll have somebody look at it who really can assess this properly.

1:04:31 Adam And I would say you're probably the kind of person that's going to end up getting married and having some kids. This should be a chapter of your life that remains your own.

1:04:40 Drew But don't share this.

1:04:42 Adam Don't share it unless you end up with one of the guys you had sex with.

1:04:45 Caller Guys really don't like to hear about stuff like this.

1:04:47 Adam Not so much the online stuff. Yeah.

1:04:50 Caller Not first date conversation.

1:04:51 Caller No, no, no.

1:04:53 Drew I would definitely not bring that up on the first date. Megan, it sounds so compartmentalized and clandestine and compulsive and that's what I-

1:05:03 Caller Very instant gratification. If I want something, I just go do it.

1:05:07 Drew Are you an alcoholic? Are you an alcoholic?

1:05:09 Caller No substance abuse. Okay. I've never smoked or done drugs.

1:05:12 Drew All right.

1:05:13 Adam Well, you got to get into it.

1:05:13 Drew But the point is-

1:05:15 Adam Believe me, start smoking some pot.

1:05:17 Caller It sounds like you're slacking.

1:05:18 Drew It's a non-integrated experience. It's the part of yourself needing gratification in that moment, and then going back into your isolation mode.

1:05:26 Adam Here's what you need. You need a bong in the game show network. You're not going to be meeting any John in the Denny's parking lot.

1:05:33 Drew That's the Hawthorne Heights manual.

1:05:35 Adam Yeah. Megan.

1:05:37 Caller Yes.

1:05:37 Adam Quick question. Ally and Axis powers.

1:05:40 Drew Who's who?

1:05:41 Adam Who's who?

1:05:42 Caller Our allies. The Axis powers were Italy, Germany, and the US.

1:05:49 Drew The Axis powers.

1:05:50 Adam Italy, Germany, and US.

1:05:51 Drew We're the Axis powers.

1:05:52 Hawthorne Heights Right. All right.

1:05:53 Adam Yeah. We're all fighting on the same side. Yeah. We were fighting.

1:05:57 Drew The allies.

1:05:57 Adam Allies.

1:05:59 Caller We were not fighting.

1:06:00 Adam Australia and France.

1:06:01 Caller We weren't fighting allies. Allies are the people on our side.

1:06:04 Adam Right. Which included Italy, in Germany.

1:06:10 Caller No, those were our enemies.

1:06:12 Adam Okay. All right.

1:06:13 Drew Was there a third enemy?

1:06:15 Caller Japan.

1:06:16 Caller Okay.

1:06:16 Drew Yeah.

1:06:20 Adam All right, baby. Just checking your stuff. All right. Get some help. You're in the medical field.

1:06:26 Drew Yeah. Here's the deal. Of course, you might check out the book Drama, The Gifted Child. As you know, people that are caretakers have trauma histories of various types, often tender and difficult to get your hands on. Certainly, without professional help, it's almost impossible. In order to be effective in your job, that's the book cracked I wrote about. It's very difficult if you don't have good boundaries and a good sense of your own self.

1:06:46 Adam Yeah. I remember the speech very quickly, very clearly, I should say. December 7th, 1944, a day that will live in infamy, although will be screwed up by a lot of chicks who's really not that interested in war.

1:07:02 Drew Yeah.

1:07:03 Hawthorne Heights All right.

1:07:05 Adam A day that will probably live in infamy amongst the old white males.

1:07:11 Drew Yeah.

1:07:12 Adam But not chicks, not even educated ones. Women hate war so much they refuse to know anything about it.

1:07:20 Drew They're going to get angry that you're interested in it. The History Channel, I think my wife's going to throw stuff at the TV when I put that up.

1:07:26 Adam Yeah. You know what it is. Here's the other thing too, they treat war like, they treat World War I, World War II not as if it was a historical event, but it's some- Mishap. Not even a mishap, it's just another one of your hobbies that they have no interest in.

1:07:44 Caller Boring movies. They don't want to watch the films about it or the channels about it.

1:07:48 Adam Yeah, and they look at it like, well, look, it's rotisserie football. No, I don't know what Randy Moss' stats were last year, but you have no idea what the difference between acrylic nails and a French tip is. You know what I mean? It's like, no, no, this is a historical event. That's a personal hobby of mine. Yeah? No?

1:08:11 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

1:08:12 Adam Let's take a break.

1:08:13 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

1:08:14 Adam Yeah?

1:08:14 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

1:08:14 Adam Hawthorne Heights here tonight. We will hear something else off the CD and a couple of you. Take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Yeah! Loveline!

1:08:54 Drew Adam's on a roll tonight.

1:08:55 Adam Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Hawthorne Heights, it's due tonight. JT and Casey are both here. The Silence of the Black and White, name of the city. Just explain what a good thing the atomic bomb was for the Japanese. I'm serious. Here's the deal. We dropped a couple of atomic bombs on Japan and killed 100,000, not much more than 100,000 Japanese. That's all. Now, if we would have launched a campaign and actually invaded Japan, first off, we would have had to just drop incinerary bombs on that place for the first month and just torch the entire, all of Japan. We'd just burn it to the ground. Then the Marines would have gone in there and just slaughtered everybody. It would have been millions dead. So, good thing. Yeah? They could have given up. They could have. They didn't do it. So we dropped another one. Still a good thing because we saved lives. We saved lives. They, 100,000 versus a couple million. Do the math. All right?

1:09:58 Drew Well, explain what you're saying about the island campaigns.

1:10:01 Adam I was just saying that these guys fought to the death if in the islands that we tried to get to islands that were outside of Japan so we could make air bases so we could bomb Japan. It was all about torching Japan and getting the range for bombers to get close enough to Japan so we could start torching Japan with a bombing campaign. And these guys fought to the death on those islands that weren't even their islands. Know what I mean?

1:10:25 Drew Because they believed that we were like that.

1:10:27 Adam They believed that we would do to them what they would have done to us which is just rape all the women and enslave all the guys and torture everyone and start death camps. That's what they did. So we bombed their asses. That's how it goes. Don't F with the biggest guy on the block. You're going to get torched. That's it. Shouldn't have bombed Pearl Harbor in 1944. But you did. And we built a time machine and went back three years and we bombed your ass. Anyone know something? They were working on atomic bombs. And you know what? They would have dropped it on New York in a heartbeat if they had a chance. Of course they would have. Of course they would have. You don't think they would have? In a heartbeat. In a heartbeat. TS baby. All you pussies who don't think that was a favor we did for them, go back over there. Go over there and be with your brothers. Wisdom of the Orient. Kiss my ass. Christa? Yeah? Tired of this country apologizing for everything. Let me tell you something. We had prisoners of war. We kept them as prisoners. We got a couple guys over at Abu Ghraib. What's the big deal? A female interrogator showed her his bra strap and then took the Quran and dropped it on the ground. These guys had death marches. You understand? They made mass graves, mowed people with machine guns and threw them into mass graves. They killed millions of people. That's what they did. A bra strap? Talking about the Japanese. You want to get into the Nazis? What they did? What do we do? What do we do? We just keep people, we feed them, we let them go. There were such pussies in this country. You know what I mean? You know all the guys in the Baton Death March, you think they would have died to go to Abu Ghraib. Would have been a luxury hotel for them. Here's your prayer mat, here's your three hots, there's your cot, Mecca is that way by the way. Relax, speak in your tongue. Now instead you're just going to walk through a baton, 50,000 you would die walking to a work camp. Fantastic everybody, great people, awesome. They didn't deserve that bomb, hell yeah they deserve that bomb. Of course they did. Christa?

1:12:41 Drew Alright Christa, what's going on?

1:12:43 Adam Tired of all the pussies in this country. Getting their stupid left wing crap and trying to rewrite history.

1:12:50 Caller Alright, so I have this boyfriend and like he broke up with me because I like get off on pain.

1:12:57 Drew So somebody.

1:12:57 Caller Not good.

1:12:59 Caller And I don't know why because nothing bad's ever happened to me.

1:13:03 Drew Well, usually it's because you were sort of beat up a little bit growing up. Do you ever have a prong illness or anything like that when you're growing up?

1:13:08 Caller No.

1:13:09 Drew Did you get anybody hit you when you're growing up?

1:13:11 Caller No.

1:13:14 Adam So it's pretty when you get that.

1:13:17 Hawthorne Heights No.

1:13:21 Adam What happened? Nothing. Where's your dad? Who's drinking?

1:13:23 Caller I don't know my dad.

1:13:25 Adam What year was Pearl Harbor?

1:13:26 Drew You don't know your dad.

1:13:27 Caller How come?

1:13:28 Caller I don't know. I just, because my, I don't know.

1:13:33 Drew Well that's not an acceptable answer.

1:13:35 Caller I know.

1:13:35 Caller I was born and he wasn't there. Like he just, he never knew my mom was pregnant and like he broke up and he like left. So.

1:13:43 Adam Who raised you? Anybody? Just your mom?

1:13:45 Drew No dad.

1:13:46 Caller No.

1:13:47 Drew No male figure?

1:13:48 Caller No.

1:13:49 Adam No step dads? No nothing?

1:13:50 Caller No.

1:13:51 Adam How old was your mom when she had you? Never remarried? Never hooked up? Never anything?

1:13:58 Caller No.

1:13:59 Adam How about grandparents?

1:14:01 Caller Well, they're there, my grandson and my grandma, but we don't really see each other very often.

1:14:06 Adam Why is that?

1:14:06 Caller Well, my grandma died and my grandpa, like his girlfriend's like a witch, so we never go over there.

1:14:13 Adam An actual witch or just a bad person?

1:14:16 Caller He's a really bad person.

1:14:17 Adam She has a big cauldron and she doesn't stir.

1:14:21 Drew Laugh and eclipsed.

1:14:22 Hawthorne Heights Bad news. She can't play, yeah. All right.

1:14:27 Adam What kind of violence do you enjoy? What kind of pain do you enjoy when you're having sex?

1:14:31 Caller Well, I'm really submissive and I just like being choked and slapped, and my hair pulled and stuff like that. I thought it was normal to like that, and then he was like, you're weird.

1:14:40 Drew What's the point of real pain or just as a playful thing?

1:14:45 Caller Not like if they choked me until I blacked out, I'd probably freak out. But I don't know. I love tattoos and piercings, and when I get them, it's sexual.

1:14:56 Adam When did you lose your virginity?

1:14:58 Caller When I was 16.

1:15:00 Drew This isn't adding up for us.

1:15:02 Adam Okay, how about super domineering religious mom who's domineering? Anything like that?

1:15:09 Caller Oh, she's not religious at all.

1:15:12 Drew That would be an eating disorder.

1:15:13 Adam Yeah, I'm grasping at straws at this point.

1:15:16 Drew So I just cannot accept that there wasn't some rough housing, rough sort of-

1:15:22 Adam Trade.

1:15:23 Caller Trade is what I call it...

1:15:24 Drew .treatment when you were younger. No?

1:15:27 Caller No. It was just me, my mom, and my sister.

1:15:29 Drew But when you were disciplined, when you did something bad-

1:15:32 Adam Did she ever beat you with a belt or anything?

1:15:34 Caller No, not at all.

1:15:35 Drew She never hit you with her hand?

1:15:37 Caller No.

1:15:38 Drew She never hit you with an object?

1:15:39 Caller No.

1:15:40 Adam Lost virginity at 16.

1:15:42 Drew No prolonged illness or anything like that when you're grown up?

1:15:44 Caller No.

1:15:45 Hawthorne Heights Hmm.

1:15:47 Adam Well, we're going to flip over all the cards because we just don't- Well, I don't know. But let me ask you this, Drew.

1:15:53 Hawthorne Heights Hold on a second.

1:15:53 Drew Not everything has to fall as you know.

1:15:57 Adam Most women enjoy being-

1:16:01 Drew Out of control.

1:16:02 Adam A little out of control. Sweat away. What do you call that, Drew? You usually call it something.

1:16:06 Drew She used it submissive, passive or-

1:16:08 Adam Yeah. It's like the man is driving in bed.

1:16:13 Drew You know what I've said to you before is that if they feel like their sexuality is bad or dirty, if somebody makes it that they have to be sexual, they're no longer expressing a part of themselves they're in control of and it's okay then. It's permitted.

1:16:27 Adam So most women, even healthy women, enjoy little tug on the hair, little slap on the ass and whose daddy know he love a bitch.

1:16:37 Hawthorne Heights Right? Yeah? Yeah.

1:16:39 Adam Okay. So with that in mind, isn't it possible that there's just a certain percentage that like it a step further without any history of abuse?

1:16:50 Drew Sure.

1:16:50 Adam Maybe that's Christa. Maybe just growing up without a father.

1:16:55 Drew I still wanted there to be something biological.

1:16:57 Adam I do too.

1:16:57 Drew You didn't do a speed history or anything like that or cocaine.

1:17:02 Caller I used to do a riddle in a lot. Like I get it.

1:17:04 Drew There we go. Now it's starting.

1:17:06 Adam That's the speed.

1:17:06 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

1:17:07 Drew That's the speed.

1:17:07 Hawthorne Heights All right.

1:17:08 Drew There we go. Because to me, there has to have been some neurobiological shift to make you that way.

1:17:13 Caller That would make me that way?

1:17:16 Drew It's something that helps me at least. It gives me something to hang my hat on. That starts to make sense then.

1:17:20 Caller There is at least a problem.

1:17:22 Drew Well, it's not the problem. It's not the addiction so much as the speed and stimulus in one of the drugs that do change your brain chemistry. One of the things that could be happening is she needs arousal to feel sexual. She needs those arousal system that amygdala function is off. Are you using anything else besides speed now?

1:17:37 Caller No. I just drink. That's it.

1:17:39 Adam Did she say she was using speed or she said she used to be on a riddle?

1:17:44 Drew She's drinking. So was dad an alcoholic?

1:17:46 Adam I don't know.

1:17:47 Caller I don't know.

1:17:48 Drew Did your mom ever talk about that?

1:17:49 Caller No.

1:17:50 Drew Why don't you ask her about that? Because that would bring this all a little more into focus.

1:17:53 Adam Yeah.

1:17:53 Drew Because alcoholic behavior can go down this path.

1:17:56 Adam What did your mom tell you about your biological father?

1:17:59 Caller She told me his name was John and that's pretty much it.

1:18:03 Caller Why bother with him telling you his name is John? That gives you nothing.

1:18:09 Drew Did you have a million questions for her when you were growing up? I'm sure. I guarantee you she had long talks about it.

1:18:14 Caller I got nothing for you. His name is John.

1:18:18 Adam It was a one night stand.

1:18:19 Drew Yeah. But listen, a five-year-old girl is going, who's my dad? Why don't I have a dad? Who was he? Why did you leave him? What was he like? What was he like? Of course, those questions were asked. Of course. I don't know.

1:18:29 Caller My sister didn't know her dad either and he's different than mine, and she didn't tell her anything either.

1:18:34 Caller What's his name?

1:18:35 Caller Tom.

1:18:36 Caller Tom and John. That's all we got.

1:18:38 Adam She's a one syllable gal. Hey, how many syllables is your name?

1:18:41 Drew By the way.

1:18:41 Adam What's your name, Ed?

1:18:44 Caller I like that. I like that very much.

1:18:45 Drew Something's going on with mom here.

1:18:47 Caller I mean, what's up?

1:18:48 Adam What's up with your mom?

1:18:49 Caller I have no idea.

1:18:51 Adam Well, two kids and two guys gone.

1:18:54 Drew I think you maybe look at your mom and really who she is and what her behavior has been like.

1:18:58 Adam Go ahead and get out of the house first. You don't throw up on the carpet.

1:19:01 Drew Yes.

1:19:02 Adam Hey, Krista. Pearl Harbor.

1:19:06 Hawthorne Heights What year was that?

1:19:07 Caller I had the tick before, say 44.

1:19:10 Caller So there you go. I don't care about that stuff.

1:19:13 Caller Okay.

1:19:15 Caller That's also not good. So we got the choking thing and we got that not going to school.

1:19:19 Drew Crazy mom, riddling, alcohol.

1:19:23 Adam Krista.

1:19:23 Drew It's starting to add up a little bit.

1:19:25 Adam There you go. Yeah. How about you take care of yourself? Let's please not get pregnant because I guarantee when you do, your son or daughter will not know their dad. The one syllable name of their father.

1:19:38 Caller No, I'm not promiscuous at all.

1:19:41 Adam Doesn't matter.

1:19:41 Caller Yeah.

1:19:42 Adam It's going to happen between getting drunk and being how you are.

1:19:46 Caller Yeah.

1:19:46 Adam Getting choked, something's going to happen.

1:19:47 Caller Lay off that choking nonsense.

1:19:49 Caller Yeah.

1:19:50 Drew People die doing that.

1:19:51 Caller Yeah, they do.

1:19:52 Hawthorne Heights I know.

1:19:53 Caller Asphyxiation.

1:19:54 Hawthorne Heights That's how I went.

1:19:55 Drew Oh, really?

1:19:56 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

1:19:57 Drew This life or the previous one?

1:19:58 Adam I believe I was submissive. I was a submissive in another life.

1:20:03 Drew Everything happens for a reason.

1:20:04 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

1:20:05 Adam Well, there's all those-

1:20:05 Caller I don't get the choking. A little nibble here and there, maybe it's smack on the butt like Adam said, literally choking.

1:20:12 Hawthorne Heights Come on.

1:20:13 Adam I would start believing in reincarnation if people didn't get into that crap or they were nobility or they were proud warriors or whatever. They go like, what happened? Trick went bad.

1:20:25 Drew Right.

1:20:25 Adam Passive life.

1:20:26 Drew I was a Chinese peasant rolled over by a plow.

1:20:29 Adam No, I was a submissive and a dominant. Oh, yeah. Dominant relationship and I had too much pressure. John came in and just choked life out of me. He was in me. I think I was a chick though, I'm hoping I was.

1:20:43 Drew This is how I recall it felt like.

1:20:45 Adam Anyway, he killed me and then he finished about a half hour later and they buried me on Mark Griff. That's the person I believe. Okay, now there's, this reincarnation is true. It exists. All right.

1:21:00 Drew Are we gonna hear another Hawthorne Heights song?

1:21:02 Hawthorne Heights We may.

1:21:03 Adam Let's see how the guys are.

1:21:05 Caller This is not about choking people.

1:21:06 Drew Oh, you know what we need to do? We need to play Ranchero Countdown.

1:21:08 Hawthorne Heights Oh.

1:21:09 Drew Let's do that with the guys. There's been no Germany or Florida, so we got to play a game. These guys are Game Show Network freaks.

1:21:17 Adam Here's how Ace's Mexican Ranchero Accordion Countdown works. Ranchero music. You guys are from Ohio.

1:21:25 Caller Yeah.

1:21:26 Drew You've never heard the glorious Ranchero.

1:21:28 Adam You did not know the wonderful song stylings of the Ranchero band. If you live out in Southern California, you hear a lot of Ranchero music, a lot of Ranchero stations, a lot of folks driving around with Brahma bold decals on pickup trucks with the windows open because the air conditioning is on the fridge. Playing Ranchero music.

1:21:44 Drew Even when the air conditioning works.

1:21:46 Adam Still got to let the neighborhood know where you stay in as far as Ranchero goes.

1:21:49 Caller How are the mustaches on these dudes?

1:21:52 Adam Mega. Not minor. Mega. If you work on enough construction sites as I have in my career, you'll learn to love the Ranchero music. Now, the backbone of Ranchero music is of course the accordion. It's a beautiful melodic music. It's a great instrument. It's awesome. We take a random Ranchero song, we cue it up to a random spot in the song, and we try to guess how many seconds before you hear the accordion. Drew, somebody from a band, I can't remember her name, was Dead Nuts On with Six Seconds.

1:22:26 Drew Oh, yeah.

1:22:26 Adam Which seemed like a lifetime.

1:22:27 Drew Oh, it was a few weeks back. Yes.

1:22:29 Hawthorne Heights Rhylo-Kylo.

1:22:31 Adam Now, what are you going for, Drew?

1:22:32 Drew I'm going to just smack dab in the average range, I'll say four seconds.

1:22:36 Adam Four seconds? That's not average, that's a little bit.

1:22:39 Hawthorne Heights It's a little high. A little high.

1:22:41 Caller JT?

1:22:43 Caller I'll go a little lower, three seconds.

1:22:44 Hawthorne Heights Three seconds.

1:22:46 Adam Casey?

1:22:48 Hawthorne Heights I don't know.

1:22:49 Adam I know.

1:22:50 Drew Not acceptable.

1:22:51 Adam Not acceptable. I have to give a number. Nobody knows.

1:22:54 Caller 300,000 kilowatts seconds.

1:22:58 Caller I'm going to go with five.

1:22:59 Drew Five.

1:23:00 Adam Five.

1:23:00 Drew You know what your bet is now.

1:23:02 Adam Uninspired, but still an answer.

1:23:04 Drew You got one bet.

1:23:05 Adam Immediate?

1:23:05 Drew Immediate.

1:23:06 Hawthorne Heights All right.

1:23:07 Adam I got to go. Well, Drew, I don't like you spoon feeding me.

1:23:09 Hawthorne Heights One second.

1:23:11 Drew You can always go two seconds.

1:23:12 Adam I'm going to go two seconds.

1:23:13 Hawthorne Heights So what do you think of that?

1:23:14 Drew Well, it's because, you know, then you get zero to two. You cover that territory.

1:23:17 Adam Well, but okay. All right. I'm going two seconds.

1:23:20 Hawthorne Heights What do you think of that?

1:23:21 Drew All right.

1:23:22 Adam So let's count it down.

1:23:24 Drew Five, four, three, two, one, go.

1:23:36 Hawthorne Heights What is that?

1:23:37 Drew Is that an accordion?

1:23:40 Adam No, I don't think I ever hear an accordion.

1:23:45 Drew This is actually German Oompah music.

1:23:47 Caller This is not. That's a lot of tubas for ranchero music.

1:23:50 Drew Well, no ranchero is the-

1:23:55 Adam This is the worst goddamn music ever made.

1:24:02 Drew There's got to be an accordion in there.

1:24:04 Adam We may have to pick another song.

1:24:05 Drew Let's play again.

1:24:07 Adam You know what happened? You know what happened? One of the band members came rushing into rehearsal and said, I've got it. I found an instrument more annoying than the accordion. And everyone's like, that's impossible. We've been annoying white people with these accordions for a thousand years.

1:24:22 Drew Oh, but listen, the tuba. No, but listen, we've found, discovered through studying the history of rent chair music is the glorious blend of the German beer makers who arrived in Mexico and the indigenous music of Mexico. So the Oompa got blended with the giant guitars.

1:24:41 Adam It's like that Reese's Peanut Butter Cup commercial, except for replace chocolate with ass and replace peanut butter with ass. You understand? Ass and ass. Pow!

1:24:53 Drew You got ass on my ass.

1:24:54 Adam Super ass.

1:24:56 Drew All right. We got to pick another.

1:24:58 Adam Same bet. Same bet.

1:24:59 Drew And? Hang on a second.

1:25:00 Adam We got about.

1:25:01 Drew Three, two, wait a minute.

1:25:05 Adam I got to cue up.

1:25:06 Drew Two, one, go. I hear it there. There, there.

1:25:16 Adam All right. What? But now, what did you start at 30? That was about seven, seven seconds. Casey took five. I mean, two seconds is a lifetime.

1:25:27 Drew Uncharacteristic.

1:25:28 Adam Two and a half seconds. Yeah.

1:25:29 Drew Uncharacteristic songs.

1:25:30 Caller Did he win a Brahma Bowl?

1:25:32 Adam He won a Brahma Bowl decal. Yeah. Let's, and one knee pad for set and tie. Well, take yourselves a little break and we'll be right back after this. Yeah, everybody. Yeah, get it on. Hawthorne Heights in Studio.

1:26:25 Hawthorne Heights Drew, you know anyone from Hawthorne Heights?

1:26:27 Drew No, I can't say I do.

1:26:28 Hawthorne Heights I do.

1:26:29 Drew I think I've been there. Oh, I had a baseball tournament there.

1:26:32 Adam Good. Not yourself, the kids.

1:26:33 Drew No, the kids.

1:26:34 Adam Yes, see, Drew lives to his children, yes?

1:26:38 Drew You have four of them.

1:26:39 Adam Hawthorne Heights. Yeah, you only have three now, Drew. In studio tonight, we'll hear something off the CD. By the way, the band is going to be on Jimmy Kimmel Live tonight. Watch a big outdoor stage, playing the outdoor summer stage. I know you've arrived. The Silence of Black and White, name of the CD, and my show. Say my show, Jimmy Kimmel Live too? Too late, that will crawl on tonight as well. Let's hear something from the band. Yes. Let's do that. All right.

1:27:08 Caller We queued up.

1:27:09 Adam This one's called Nicky FM. Yeah, Hawthorne Heights, not what you call a hard out.

1:31:07 Caller You know what I mean?

1:31:08 Adam Yeah. Radar's a soft out. Got to be quiet. Listen. Another good song. You guys play a few songs tonight?

1:31:16 Hawthorne Heights Yeah, we played five. Played five.

1:31:18 Adam Played like one or one and change for On The Air.

1:31:21 Caller Yeah.

1:31:21 Adam Then you just played for the throngs of elated kids that were there, right?

1:31:25 Caller Yep.

1:31:27 Adam Was that one of them?

1:31:28 Caller That was one of them. That was the outro song.

1:31:32 Adam Oh, so yeah, you played one all the way through On The Air and then you played the one and you played them off.

1:31:36 Caller Yeah. As they say. And Jimmy and his girlfriend watched it. It was really nice. Sarah Silverman.

1:31:45 Adam No, I'm Jimmy's girlfriend.

1:31:47 Drew Shh, don't tell him. Stop, guys.

1:31:50 Adam Yeah. Oh, the beard.

1:31:51 Hawthorne Heights Sarah Silverman. Yeah.

1:31:54 Adam Well, some people think he's straight. It's a term. Look it up, man.

1:32:00 Hawthorne Heights JD?

1:32:01 Caller Yeah.

1:32:02 Hawthorne Heights You're 15?

1:32:03 Caller Yeah.

1:32:04 Adam Sorry.

1:32:06 Caller You did seem pretty bummed about that, dude.

1:32:08 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

1:32:09 Caller It sucks.

1:32:10 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

1:32:11 Adam 15 does suck. Yeah, no driver's license.

1:32:14 Caller No driver's license, no right to leave the house, no right to be out past 10.

1:32:18 Hawthorne Heights Yeah.

1:32:19 Adam Yeah.

1:32:19 Hawthorne Heights All right.

1:32:20 Adam Well, what do you need to do past 10?

1:32:22 Hawthorne Heights What do you need to do past 10 anyway?

1:32:26 Caller Uh, things. Hey, that's not funny.

1:32:31 Drew Okay.

1:32:31 Caller Jog. I need to jog past 10.

1:32:34 Adam All right, buddy. What's your question?

1:32:38 Caller It's like I have trouble like looking at women now because I've had six girlfriends cheat on me and it sounds like not a lot but still.

1:32:45 Drew What do you mean cheat?

1:32:47 Caller Like I've had out of all my girlfriends, every single one of them left me for another guy.

1:32:54 Drew Yeah, that's usually what people do after they leave a relationship.

1:32:56 Adam Hold on. I'm shocked by the way.

1:32:58 Drew Yeah.

1:32:58 Adam JD, man, you get hold of JD, you hang on him with both hands. What are these chicks thinking?

1:33:04 Drew Yeah, it's not they're cheating. It sounds like they end the relationship and they leave for another guy.

1:33:08 Adam Yeah, that's not cheating. That's not being so into you.

1:33:11 Caller Yeah, okay.

1:33:12 Adam All right.

1:33:13 Caller No, I've actually caught one of them. It was like in bed with one of them.

1:33:18 Drew So I was like, 15-year-old in bed.

1:33:23 Caller Yeah, actually she is 14. He was 15 at the time.

1:33:26 Caller All right.

1:33:26 Adam Well, maybe your personality is not so great, JD. Do you ever think about that?

1:33:32 Caller Yeah, a lot.

1:33:33 Caller All right.

1:33:34 Adam You give it some more consideration because you could be driving chicks away.

1:33:38 Caller Okay.

1:33:39 Adam It sounds like a delight. I don't know why the young ladies weren't interested in it.

1:33:43 Drew There's a ton missing from that whole discussion.

1:33:45 Adam Whatever. Don't get anyone pregnant. Whatever you're doing, stop it.

1:33:48 Drew Slow it down. Yeah.

1:33:49 Adam Just stop it.

1:33:49 Drew Yeah.

1:33:50 Adam Okay. If you keep getting the same result, no matter what it is, look in the mirror. That's all you got to know. Everybody, keep getting fired, keep getting naps, keep getting dumped, keep getting cheated on, look in the mirror. There's where your answer will lie. Not scrawled in lipstick, just whatever is looking back at you. Okay, quick break, be right back.

1:34:10 Caller All right, guys, here's the deal. You're looking to hook up, sick of wasting time with the wrong person?

1:34:15 One call's all you need to make.

1:34:17 Caller Call the Dateline.

1:34:18 Caller 877-889-DATE.

1:34:20 Call the Dateline.

1:34:55 Adam Hot Thorn Heights, KCJT. Thanks very much for coming by.

1:35:00 Caller You're welcome.

1:35:00 Adam Thanks, boys, on Jimmy Kimmel Live tonight. And watch Vivica A. Fox. We will take a little extendo break, Andy Milonakis, the possibly young Andy Milonakis in here. And until next time, it's Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:35:21 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Aningold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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