Episode 1000724338140

0:57 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content. Sexually-oriented content. Listener discretion is advised. Listener discretion is advised. Listener discretion is advised. This is Loveline. With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

1:24 Voiceover Yeah. Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. And Hawthorne Heights is a band, which is coming on here tonight. As a matter of fact, we just found out they're coming on tonight a little earlier in the day and then afflict on Kimmel tonight.

1:47 Drew Yeah, they're coming in from Kimmel.

1:48 Adam And they're doing Kimmel tonight.

1:49 Drew Right.

1:50 Adam So if they're doing Kimmel, they got to be hot. He will not let second tier bands on that show. I know. I tried to get my band, Narthex on there.

1:58 Guest Oh, really?

1:58 Drew Narthex didn't play.

1:59 Guest Yeah.

2:00 Adam Heavy rock. A lot of attitude. Attitude. Attitude rock.

2:04 Drew Use the geniuses.

2:05 Adam Attitude. Yeah.

2:06 Drew And attitude.

2:07 Adam Yeah. Edge. Edge. So those guys are going to be coming over here from Kimmel. So we'll probably have them on in the second break. But now we'll move forward, Drew.

2:18 Drew Perfect. Take some calls.

2:19 Adam You're cool?

2:19 Drew Yeah.

2:20 Adam Doing good? What's going on? What are you on?

2:23 Drew What am I on?

2:23 Adam Doing something? On vacation?

2:25 Drew I'm going to New York for Today Show to do Today Show Friday morning.

2:28 Adam Oh, really? How long are you going to be there?

2:31 Drew Four hours.

2:32 Guest The usual.

2:33 Adam All right. Coming right back?

2:34 Drew Coming right back. And then I'm going to Las Vegas for the weekend. Your wife called me today to say that she couldn't make it.

2:40 Adam Yeah.

2:41 Drew She never ever offered you coming though. It was just whether she was going to come or not.

2:44 Adam Well, here's the thing. I was going to go on a fishing trip.

2:47 Drew That's what she said. But you're not going on that now.

2:49 Adam No, but I'm not because I got to work Saturday and then I got two shows to do on Tuesday and then I'm going to New York to do Letterman on Wednesday. So I just thought, that's too much. You know?

3:02 Drew Yeah.

3:02 Adam You know my thing. I like to relax.

3:05 Drew No, you haven't been home in a month.

3:06 Adam I've been home. And here's the whole thing about a vacation. Vacation is fine except for if you go on one of these fishing ones, you got to get up at 445 and then you got to go out and sit in the sun and do all that. And then when you come home, you're exhausted. Now it's time to get back to work.

3:20 Drew No way. No.

3:21 Adam I'm going to take a Quailude. I'm going to put myself a nice IV drip in me. And I'm going out. You know what I want to do this weekend? I want to do that thing you do, rapid detox.

3:31 Drew You know, I'm glad you brought that up because those are finally defunct. A lead article of JAMA this week showed that there's no place for rapid detox.

3:40 Adam No place.

3:41 Drew No place.

3:42 Adam You mean there are facilities, but there's no place in our society.

3:46 Drew In treatment because people are dying as a result. It cost a ton and it showed in no way to be superior to standard detox, which is what I do for people.

3:54 Adam Let me ask you this, Drew. I'm looking to really get some serious sleep in this weekend, though.

3:59 Drew You can just go under anesthesia. We can put you to sleep.

4:01 Adam Yeah, yeah.

4:01 Drew That's fine.

4:03 Adam I want to throw a good charge on the batteries. You know what I mean? And when I say rapid detox, I don't...

4:08 Drew You just mean anesthesia.

4:09 Adam Yeah, I don't want all the concoctions and pills and whatnot. I just want a nice morphine drip, some anesthesia. Maybe work a little, you know, catheterize me, obviously.

4:19 Drew Twilight.

4:19 Adam Twilight.

4:19 Drew Obviously.

4:20 Adam And do whatever they do for number two, whatever that is. They have some sort of funnel.

4:25 Drew You don't care. What do you care?

4:26 Adam Bazooka or something. What do they do for number two?

4:29 Drew Diapers. That's right. You won't know it.

4:32 Adam Okay. All right. My point is, I would like to go down for like 22 to 28 hours and just go down hard. And when I wake up, I don't know what day it is. I don't even want to know who I am.

4:43 Drew Well, so be it an average day for you.

4:45 Adam Yeah.

4:46 Guest Yeah.

4:46 Adam Morning.

4:46 Guest Yeah.

4:47 Adam But let me ask this, Drew. How does it work? Explain this to me. If your work, you know, you're burning the midnight oil, you're burning the candle at both ends, you're burning something else. I can't think of a third analogy. And you're really behind on sleep and you've just been run ragging for a week. And then you sleep eight hours.

5:07 Drew Yeah.

5:07 Adam Obviously, you've charged yourself up a little bit.

5:09 Drew A little bit.

5:10 Adam But would it be better to sleep for 14 hours at that point? You know what I'm saying? Because I don't think it is.

5:15 Drew No, it isn't. It could make you more tired. But what you could do is lie around all day. That'd be good.

5:19 Adam That'd be good.

5:19 Drew Yeah.

5:20 Adam Oh, I majored in that in high school.

5:22 Drew Yeah.

5:22 Adam But here, so what I'm saying is it's too bad your body doesn't work like this.

5:28 Drew Yeah.

5:29 Adam You can store. Yeah, like a battery where you go like, look, this is one of these days where we're going to be, I'm going to be going to bed at 2, I got to get up at 5 to go to catch a 7 a.m. flight to New York. So the day before, I'm going to sleep for 16 hours, and then I'll feel great the following day when I sleep for three hours.

5:46 Drew Nope.

5:47 Adam Why is that?

5:48 Drew I know I hate that. Why do we have to sleep at all? Let's get rid of that altogether.

5:53 Adam Well, first off, if there was no sleep at all, I would beat off 126 times a day. I realize that. Because my witching hour is about 2 a.m. to 8 a.m. That's what you're doing there. That's what I'm doing.

6:06 Drew I thought it was your medicine that kept you awake at night.

6:08 Adam Well, there's that too. But no, you know what I'm saying?

6:10 Drew Yeah.

6:11 Adam You know what I'd be doing to myself between 4 a.m. and 6 a.m.?

6:17 Drew Just be doubling down what you did between 2 and 4.

6:20 Adam I know. But the point is you would just add that number. Yeah. All I'm saying is, Drew, that would be a horrible idea for me and the whole story.

6:27 Drew It wouldn't stop at 6. Let's face it. Yeah.

6:29 Adam Okay. Now, here's what I'm asking, though. We have not worked that out as far as humankind goes in several billion years.

6:37 Drew Changing our sleep.

6:39 Adam Any evolvement? Has there been any evolvement?

6:41 Drew Well, we can make people sleep, but we can't store sleep.

6:44 Adam Well, you can drug them up. But wouldn't it be nice if you just really just needed to sleep four hours a night?

6:50 Drew Sleep is still basically a mystery. Why do we need to sleep? What is happening? It's clearly something we need.

6:56 Adam Yeah, but wouldn't it be awesome? And especially for guys like you and I who have crazy schedules and I always feel like I'm dragging around and everybody in this society.

7:05 Drew Are you kidding?

7:06 Adam Wouldn't it be nice just to hook yourself up to a little mask, or put some earphones on with a little rhythmic, some sort of thump sound that did some sort of thing, that got your cerebellum that they put in.

7:18 Drew People try that kind of stuff.

7:19 Adam Well, let's work it out, man.

7:21 Drew They're trying lots of that kind of thing, but it's such a delicate chemistry. We're long, long off that.

7:28 Adam I just mean if we could do four hours a night with the headphones and the mask, or if we could do the bank it. Man, like a squirrel with its acorns. Well, I only get to sleep two hours the next time? Good. I'm going to bank an extra two tonight. I'll use that tomorrow. Nothing, nothing, nothing after the greatest night's sleep the night before.

7:52 Drew I know.

7:53 Adam Still feel like fried hell the next day.

7:55 Drew You're making me uncomfortable.

7:56 Adam Me too.

7:57 Drew Because I would love this. Probably more than just about anything else.

8:00 Adam Well, why don't you get on it? But here's the thing.

8:03 Drew I understand that system is not going to work. You're a doctor. It's not going to work.

8:05 Adam Yeah, but you understand, let me just say something, Drew.

8:08 Drew Say something.

8:09 Adam I'm a carpenter, right?

8:10 Drew Yeah.

8:11 Adam I came up with the Recycl-A-Rolla. This is a recycling chute for people's houses. Boom, you throw the bottle in, boom, it goes right into the recycling can. You know what I did today? I was working on the house for this TLC show, and I bought all my mirrors and I was swinging them like closet doors.

8:28 Drew Well, I got the number for you for the TV.

8:30 Adam All right. We'll talk off the air. Here's my point. I also invented a thing where instead of using the bi-folding louvered doors as crappy closet doors, they're the ones that slide with the gold anodized thing. I hate them. Hate them. Just want to go gay on you for a second. Yeah, you know, you have a closet. It's a nice four, six foot opening. It's a stupid, cheap sliding doors and everything. Okay, here's what I do. Do you know what I do?

8:56 Drew You swing the mirror.

8:57 Adam I swing the mirror.

8:58 Drew Yeah, imagine that.

8:59 Adam I go over to the framing store and I order a nice big mirror. Just order whatever frame you want, beveled, whatever you want, whatever size you want. I order two of them. For the opening, I swing them like a door. Nice big full length mirrors swing and they look elegant. You get the nice frame about it. Okay, that's another invention that I've come up with. You, what have you done for sleep? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nada. Zero. Tony?

9:28 Drew Tanya. Tanya.

9:29 Adam Oh, Tanya. You see, I innovate in my field.

9:32 Drew Words, names. You innovate names.

9:33 Adam Forget about that. Don't digress. I innovate in my field with the Recycl-A-Rolla, with the closet doors, with the heated sofa. What do you got? Nothing. Tanya?

9:45 Yeah.

9:46 Adam 25?

9:47 Drew Radio was the big innovation.

9:48 Adam Yeah, yeah.

9:50 What's up?

9:51 Adam What's up?

9:53 I'm frustrated.

9:54 Adam All right. What's up?

9:55 I have a friend who talks about how wild and crazy and freaky he used to be. And he'd go to the strip clubs all the time and spend over $300 worth. And then, so I'm kind of on that side too. So I'm all excited. And then when it comes to me, it's like he acts like he's 60 years old. I'll probably get sex probably once a month and that's okay with him. I can't live like that. I can't. I just want to know what's wrong with him.

10:25 Drew This is your boyfriend?

10:27 This is my boyfriend.

10:28 Drew You guys live together?

10:29 No, we do not.

10:30 Adam How long have you been together?

10:32 A year.

10:35 Adam How old is he?

10:36 He's 30.

10:37 I'm 25. He used to play football professionally. I guess maybe he's on the downside of that. I don't know. It drives me up a lot.

10:49 Drew Well, maybe he took steroids when he was playing in the NFL. Is that the deal? I have professional athletes, not pointing fingers, commonly use steroids. When they come off, it shuts things down.

11:02 Adam Really?

11:03 Drew Yeah. Oh, yeah.

11:04 Adam Really?

11:04 Drew Oh, yeah. I've treated guys who have permanent problems.

11:07 Adam Is it a rectile difficulty?

11:09 Drew The testes shrink, the drive is down, their rectile points. Shuts the drive down.

11:12 Adam Very common. Drive and driver.

11:16 He talks like it's just, oh, I'm just, and I'm like, okay, put your money in my mouth. I can strip too. I mean, I'm in shape. I don't get it.

11:23 Drew Yeah. But your stripping is a different issue.

11:25 Adam I have a listen. Tanya, here's the thing. If you've been with a guy for only a year and you're not living together and you're both young and he's good for once a month.

11:34 Drew He's doing something with somebody else, the words may.

11:36 Adam That's possible, but either he's very depressed or this thing is winding down.

11:41 Drew He's either not the boyfriend. But keep in mind the possibility that he may be, as you say, on the downside of having been in the NFL.

11:50 Adam Well, he didn't necessarily play in the NFL.

11:54 Yeah.

11:56 Adam We did.

11:56 Yeah.

11:57 Adam We said professional football, but you can play arena football, you can play Canadian football.

12:01 No, professional. Then he went to Canada.

12:04 Adam Well, there you go. Tanya, I know you're frustrated and you think, well, what's up? He talks a good game and all that stuff. I think you need to have a discussion about where you guys are going. You've been together for a year, you're not living together. Are you planning on getting married?

12:19 Yeah, that's what he's saying.

12:21 Drew All right. Well, that and then get him to a doctor and get him to be honest with the doctors.

12:25 Because I'm like, I can't marry you if you, I mean, I just can't do it. I mean, that's going to make me want to cheat. I can't do it.

12:31 Which NFL team was it?

12:32 Yeah. What kind of who?

12:33 Which NFL team was it?

12:35 So we can put a helmet on.

12:35 New York Giants. New York Giants.

12:38 Adam Giants. All right. Put the helmet on the penis. So, Tonya.

12:43 Yeah?

12:44 Adam You need to just have, here's, okay, please take this advice. Do not intimidate him or shame him. Don't be yelling.

12:51 I don't bring it up because I think I'm going to scare him.

12:54 Adam Well, no, but look.

12:55 Drew Bring it up.

12:56 Adam No, bring it up. No, Tonya, here's what you don't. But don't get into that. I'll strip or what's wrong with you or why aren't you into me or you talk a good game, but you got no game. All that stuff. Leave all that aside. Say, look, I love you. We've been together for a year. We're looking at moving forward. We're looking at getting serious. We're looking at getting married. But I don't want to get married until we resolve this issue.

13:19 Drew Yeah. But why don't you get no play, playa? And do you have a medical problem?

13:22 Adam Talk to me. Yes.

13:23 Drew Do you have a medical problem or is this relationship really what you want it to be?

13:26 Adam Is there something you need for me or do you need to get an evaluation? I want to help you. Don't shame him. Don't intimidate him. Just work with him.

13:34 Drew This stuff is treatable too, the residual effects of steroids.

13:37 Adam Yeah. All right. It is. With what?

13:40 Drew Depends what the issue is. There's lots of different problems.

13:42 Adam All right. Kelly?

13:45 Yeah.

13:46 Adam Twenty-one?

13:47 Yep. Yeah.

13:49 Drew Kelly, what's up?

13:53 From the time I was 16 to the time I was 18, I was with this guy. When I was 17, I guess you would have to call it right because we were fooling around. I said I didn't want to go any further. He went further anyway. When I was like, Al, stop. This isn't what I want. He's like, well, you don't have anything to do now. But I stayed with him for a while.

14:13 Drew You don't have any what?

14:14 I was a virgin when we were together. Then I wanted to stay that way for a while, but we were fooling around and he took it further. When I told him to stop, he's like, why? You're not a virgin anymore anyway. Now it doesn't matter. That was the whole thing, his whole thing. But we stayed together.

14:31 Adam Why weren't you a virgin anymore?

14:32 Drew You told him to stop after he had penetrated you?

14:34 Yes, after he penetrated.

14:36 Drew Well, that's not rape then.

14:39 Adam Well, everything's rape, Drew.

14:41 I told him I didn't want to have intercourse. We were just fooling around and it was imposed upon me.

14:49 Adam You got to understand though, Kelly, there's a Hyman math here that's a little bit hard to decipher. Because when you say, I was a virgin and then he started raping me and I told him to stop and he said, doesn't matter, you're not a virgin anymore. He was having sex with you at that time. Yeah. Right. Okay. What were you doing before you got to the raping part?

15:11 We were just kind of, I mean, before the whole enforcement thing happened, we were just fooling around, hand job, oral, that sort of thing. I mean, I was virgin on a technicality. I just didn't want to, I wasn't ready to go that far.

15:24 Adam Hold on a second. You know, one thing, here's the deal, everybody. There's just the leap for guys, especially guys who, guys who are like outboard motors.

15:38 Drew Yeah, that's it.

15:41 Adam Third pole, third pole. Once they're going.

15:43 Drew That propeller's gonna slice you up.

15:45 Adam Once it's fired up, once that motor's running.

15:47 Drew Women don't understand that.

15:48 Adam There ain't no towel big enough or wet enough to stop it.

15:51 Drew I mean, they're naked and engaging in oral sex. It's just like, whoa, whoa, you should never have gotten there, anywhere near that.

15:58 Adam Now, that being said, still everything is rape. What I'm doing to Drew right now with my eyes?

16:03 Drew Violent.

16:04 Adam Rape.

16:04 Drew Violent. You should come.

16:06 Adam I just did, yeah. See, it's an act of violence. That's rape. Here's my point. Back in the day, you would be fooling around with somebody. The hand would grab a boob outside the sweater. You make that honk, honk, make that honking sound. And then she'd say, like, I'm not that kind of girl. And then you'd stop or you would get raped. Right. Now you're 69 in a guy in a parking lot. And he raped me. You know what I mean? I mean, it's like you're blowing a guy and that's cool. But now he raped me all. Look, he should stop whenever you say stop. But when your mouth is on his penis for your own edification, right, as everyone listening, ladies, listen, when a guy has his penis in your mouth and the guy's 18 and the guy's had three Mickey's big mouths, you guys don't have any clothes on and everyone's naked and you say stop, he's going to have most guys will have a lot of trouble with stopping, not saying it's right, biologically saying it is a boulder that got rolling down a hill and you're now trying to jump in front of it. Yes.

17:18 Drew Yes, it's hard to even still rape.

17:20 Adam Everything's right.

17:21 Drew Yes, everything. But it's hard to imagine how. As a man of passion and even a doctor, Drew, it's shocking that women can't appreciate that and they need to get not put themselves in those situations if that's what they do.

17:33 Adam Do not give the guy oral and then expect him to stop.

17:38 Drew Well, the oral thing, that's one thing, but to be naked with a guy.

17:41 Adam I mean, yeah. Don't get naked and perform oral and expect to stop at your part.

17:47 Drew Because that's really all that stops guys, the clothing.

17:49 Adam Yeah.

17:50 Drew That's about all that's got between you and them.

17:52 Adam No, you can't, you couldn't make it through those gouges. Had to get a running start. Kelly?

18:00 Yeah.

18:01 Adam So anyway, after you-

18:03 I'm reluctant actually to call it rape. It's just that-

18:05 Adam All right. Well, I just don't want you know, I don't want you to walk around with that label.

18:10 Oh, no. I mean, I don't usually call it. It's just that's the easiest way to-

18:14 Adam I came up with this thing, rape light, a few years ago. It didn't catch on like I'd hoped.

18:18 Drew No.

18:19 Adam But anyway, after you were done blowing him, he raped you.

18:25 Pretty much. I mean, it wasn't violent. It was just unpleasant and unasked for.

18:29 Adam He didn't, yes, he should have stopped when you said stop.

18:33 We have the understanding before we ever started blowing around that I didn't want to go that far, but that's not what my problem is. It's not like he stuffed a pillow in my mouth and held me down or anything. It wasn't violent.

18:45 Drew Had you even victimized at any other time in your life prior to that?

18:49 Adam No. Now, what's the problem or the question?

18:54 Well, we broke up over something completely unrelated to that incident, but I always held a grudge against him for it. And after we broke up, I still was like, we were still hanging out. It was amicable. And then he kept trying to reengage in a relationship with me. And I'll just out of nowhere, I really don't want to be in a relationship with him. It's gotten to the point that I don't even like him as a person.

19:19 But I still go over and sleep with him.

19:23 Drew That's trauma stuff, Kelly, that is-

19:25 Adam Well, he took her virginity and that's that weird reenactment thing going on too.

19:29 Drew Yeah, but people that reenact in that kind of situation are reenacting something from the past.

19:34 Adam Kelly, anything we need to know about in the past, from the past?

19:38 No.

19:39 Drew That would make you to compulsively reenact a traumatic experience?

19:44 I never had any other sexual trauma growing up.

19:47 Adam All right. Any alcoholism?

19:52 I got hit by a train once, but that's about it.

19:55 Drew Nice.

19:56 Adam I'm guessing it killed them, right?

19:59 Yeah.

20:00 Adam What happened?

20:02 The guy getting hit by a train?

20:03 Yeah.

20:08 I was five years old, but we were in the car and we stopped at some train tracks and some guy just jumped out in front of a train. My mom was a medic in the military and then she was there. Of course, she jumped out to go see if she could render aid, which was silly of her. Then I followed being five years old. That's, yeah, that was fun.

20:28 Adam Yeah. Are you mad at your mom?

20:31 No. I love my mom. She's awesome.

20:33 Adam Yeah. She did what she could do.

20:35 Drew What's up with your dad?

20:37 My dad is also very wonderful and supportive person.

20:39 Adam Okay. I'm going to yell at Drew. Look, Drew, here's what happened. A, she has an attraction to the guy. She's been with him for a few years. B, she's returning to the scene of the crime a little bit. She feels, you ever watch these stupid ghost movies, and it's always like, well, why can't the ghost leave because he's not free?

20:56 Drew I know.

20:57 Adam He's got unfinished business. His life was, he was taken, so he's staying and he stays in the house. I like the way everyone buys into that crap.

21:04 Drew I know.

21:04 Adam What happens when you die? Well, you go off somewhere else. Well, why are ghosts staying here? Because they have unfinished business here. But that's what she is. She's haunting this guy, Scrotum.

21:14 Drew There is no doubt that people do that. Yeah.

21:17 Adam Chicks especially.

21:18 Drew Absolutely. But they do it characteristically when it's a second trauma after something earlier. But okay.

21:22 Adam Yes, true. But this isn't an all out whatever, because this wasn't an all out rape, and this was a boyfriend, and she's damn vivid and that creates attraction in a lot of women.

21:32 Drew Yes, it does. People think of it in terms of trying to make something right that it feels really wrong and bad. That's one way to think of it. I'm not sure that even to try to make rational, to make reason out of human behavior, sometimes a huge mistake.

21:44 Adam Right.

21:45 Drew The fact is, we're just describing what people do, it's what they do.

21:47 Adam Right.

21:48 Drew And go ahead and stop. It's not a good thing. It's very unhealthy. It will drive you into a feeling of low, low self-esteem and disgust.

21:53 Adam You know, the guys who get laid the most, evoke some sort of unfinished business, slash hatred, slash I've got to go back and fix something. I've got to control it, you know. That's why I never got laid. My thing was always, hey, how about Adam Corolla?

22:13 Who?

22:14 Adam Who?

22:15 Drew Didn't evoke any drama.

22:17 Adam That dude. Brillohead?

22:20 Drew Cone-over guy?

22:21 Adam What's he doing? Yeah, that's right. What you want is, I've got to get through to him, man. He's a Rubik's Cube, man. I've got to get those colors to line up. If I could do one more try, I could fix everything.

22:34 Drew Now, I don't want people to say that we made any issue of this rape incident.

22:38 Adam Well, too late, Drew.

22:39 Drew No, I'm saying. It was a bad thing. It traumatized her. It's a bad thing.

22:43 Adam Yeah, medium bad.

22:44 Drew Not as well, look. She by herself says not horrible, but I want to make the point strongly that, yeah, it's bad for a guy. No means no, period. That's the end of the story, but please ladies, please understand the male biology and to stay out of its way.

22:57 Adam Yeah, I think rape is a good thing. Now, that was completely out of content.

23:03 Drew Well, I know we just did that, but rape is a violent crime. I'm a rapist. No, rape is a violent crime.

23:09 Adam It's a violent crime. It is. It's not a sexual crime.

23:13 Drew No, nothing sexual about it.

23:14 Adam Not sexual. You come at the end, but it's violent.

23:19 Drew But just, no, it's not sexual. Not sexual. Not sexual. But it includes...

23:24 Adam You orgasm.

23:25 Drew Ejaculation.

23:25 Adam You ejaculate.

23:26 Drew But it's a violent crime.

23:27 Adam But violent, like any other violent crime.

23:29 Drew It's like if you walked in a liquor store, pistol whipped the guy. And ejaculated.

23:33 Adam Well, I'd say more like, you remember, like an angry mob. Like an angry mob. Remember during the race riots when they pulled Reginald Denny out of his truck?

23:42 Drew Yes.

23:43 Adam And they were, it's the same, and they threw the cinder block on him. If all those young black men had ejaculated...

23:50 Drew The same thing.

23:51 Adam The same.

23:52 Drew Same as rape. Exact same. In rape, no one experiences any sexual satisfaction. The guy ejaculating.

23:57 Adam No.

23:58 Drew No.

23:58 Adam No. No, because it's violent. Nothing sexual about it. For him, it's violence where you come. It's blood in a pool of semen. It's basically what it is, Drew. I'm glad we've gotten this straightened out. All right, where are we? Does anyone bring that crap up anymore? It's not a sexual crime, it's a violent crime?

24:17 Drew Of course.

24:19 Adam We just make fun of it because it is sexual to the guys that are coming.

24:23 Drew Of course.

24:24 Adam That's their thing. That's why they do it.

24:26 Drew Yeah, that's why they do it. To get to that thing.

24:28 Adam To have the orgasm. It doesn't make them right.

24:30 Drew No, it doesn't make it not violent, aggressive. It's an aggressive act, but it's sexual. That means no mistake.

24:35 Adam It's sexual because the penis is in somebody.

24:38 Drew And there's something coming out of the penis.

24:39 Adam Thank you. All right. Call me a stickler for details, but to me, when semen is shooting out of your penis, I'm going to go ahead and call that a sexual crime.

24:49 Drew Or a sexual experience anyway.

24:50 Adam I know I'm wild. I know it seems way out there.

24:54 Drew You're judging again. I cannot judge. You're profiling. It's impossible to judge. You're offending me.

24:58 Adam All right. Let's- All right. Been addicted to, what is that?

25:03 Drew Anime.

25:04 Adam Oh, that's anime? Boy, I can't read.

25:07 Drew What would you say though?

25:09 Adam Well, I don't know what. I've never seen it. A-N-I-M-E.

25:15 Drew You said an accent that way.

25:17 Adam Oh, should there be an accent?

25:19 Drew That would make it all clear to you then?

25:20 Adam Oh, well, yes, it would. Well, no, I said an-a-N-I-M-E. If you put the-you put the oom-lots over there, I'm good. You put the accent over the e. Yeah. Put that over there. Yeah. Like-like Esty.

25:33 Drew Yeah.

25:33 Adam All right. We'll take a quick break.

25:35 Drew Shilladenko?

25:36 Adam Come on, buddy.

25:37 Drew Really?

25:37 Adam Come on. Hothorn Heights going to be in here in a couple of few. Fresh off their triumphant rocking of the Jimmy Kimmel Live audience. We'll be right back after this.

25:50 The phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191.

26:24 Adam Hey, everybody, it's Love Line, man. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191er. Thorne Heights in studio tonight, fresh off of Rockin. Jimmy Kimmel Live, JT Woodruff is here. Well, that's a name. I'll tell you, JT Woodruff. JT Woodruff.

26:42 Drew Sounds like the Secretary of State under Buchanan.

26:46 Adam Yeah, he could do that. Or guy who played some free safety for Oklahoma in the 70s. Not the speed, but this guy hit. Oh, he was a...

26:55 Drew Treasury tech, Secretary for Rutherford B. Hayes.

26:59 Adam No, I'm still on football. Best special teams player of the year in the Pine Drift. This guy, like I said, not the flat out speed, not the 100 speed, but a good quick first step and this guy would bust a wedge.

27:11 Drew Either Raiders uniform or Steelers uniform.

27:14 Adam He couldn't play pro. He couldn't play pro. He didn't have the wheels to play in the pro league. No, he had decent size. He just didn't have the wheels. He just couldn't play back then. But I'll tell you, this guy hit. This guy hit. It was a team player.

27:27 Drew All it took back then was that drive, that heart.

27:29 Adam Bust a wedge going down on special teams. You know what I mean? Use his body like he would just- Spear.

27:39 Drew He would hurl himself.

27:40 Adam He would hurl himself. And then he got a lot of spearing calls. Yeah, hit him at the top of the helmet. Yeah, reckless abandon this guy played with. Great player, JT, big fan. Welcome to the show buddy.

27:51 Guest Thanks a lot, man. What can I say?

27:53 Adam What can I say, Drew? I saw you in your college years. Drew loved what you did in government. I mean, all your political career.

28:00 Guest Just missed the pros.

28:01 Adam Casey Calvert is here too. Casey also could play a little DB in a Big Ten school. Casey Calvert. Who do you got in the backfield?

28:10 Drew Oklahoma.

28:11 Adam Oklahoma. Well, we got Casey Calvert back there. We got JT Woodruff too. Outstanding DBs in the Pioneer League. These two, boy, you'll know when they hit you. I'll tell you what. Yeah. How about that?

28:25 Drew Casey could be a baseball player too.

28:27 Adam Casey also plays first base on the teams.

28:30 Drew He's got Padres.

28:31 Adam He's got Deion Sanders. No, he didn't make the pros. No, not the pros.

28:34 Drew The farm league for Padres.

28:35 Adam Yeah, he made AAA squad, but he played both.

28:38 Drew Why do you ex these guys out of the pros?

28:41 Guest We just didn't pan out. They're too young?

28:44 Adam They're just...

28:45 Guest I don't have the speed apparently.

28:47 Adam Well, JT doesn't have the wheels and Casey blew out at knee.

28:51 Drew Okay, all right, all right.

28:53 Adam Senior year.

28:54 Drew Fair enough.

28:55 Adam Senior, Casey was the up man on the punt formation. He would call the signals out.

29:01 Guest Yeah.

29:02 Adam Guy coming in wide, lay him out and then get down there and cover that punt. Yeah.

29:06 Drew Perfect.

29:07 Adam All right. Well, we've covered that then. I've decided what you guys should have been doing. Not bad rock star names, I got to say, but better 70s college football player name. Hawthorne Heights is from the... Where are you guys from? Ohio. Yeah. In this first CD and you going out on the Warped Tour. You just got off the Warped Tour. Sorry.

29:28 Drew Where in Ohio? Dayton, Ohio.

29:31 Adam That's the biggest. Is that the biggest? What's the...

29:33 No.

29:35 Adam Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus. Cincinnati, Columbus. Where's Dayton going though? Fifth?

29:39 Drew Fourth or something.

29:40 Guest Yeah, it's probably fourth or fifth or something.

29:43 Adam You got... Yeah, that was stupid. And you know what? I never think of Cleveland as being in Ohio.

29:47 Drew But Ohio is a very populated state, so we say Ohio, it's like, I don't know, California. It's like, hmm.

29:52 Adam All right. You know the two cities that don't seem like they're from the right state? Detroit doesn't seem like it should be in Michigan.

29:58 Drew Yeah, it should be in Ohio.

30:01 Adam No, Detroit should be in New Jersey or something. You know what I mean? Detroit, when you think Detroit, you don't think Great Lakes. You know what I mean? As much as you guys know from looking at maps, I'm telling you, I got a fresh mind. I don't know anything. Cleveland and Detroit don't seem like Ohio and Michigan. They seem like they should move toward the East.

30:22 Drew Yeah.

30:22 Guest A little further.

30:23 Adam Yeah?

30:24 Guest Yeah.

30:24 Adam Thank you.

30:25 Drew Cleveland should be where Pittsburgh is.

30:27 Adam That's right.

30:27 Drew Yeah.

30:28 Adam That's right.

30:28 Guest Yeah.

30:29 Adam Shouldn't be in Ohio.

30:30 Guest Right.

30:30 Drew You're right. You're right.

30:31 Guest Thank you. I say we get rid of them.

30:32 Adam Let's get rid of them. You guys go back to playing ball. We'll be coaching now. That's your alma mater now. DB coach, special teams coach. So you guys played Kimmel tonight and they were saying Vivica A. Fox was on the show and she stormed out.

30:47 Guest Yeah.

30:47 Drew During the commercial or right in the middle of the show?

30:49 Guest I think it was during the commercial. But you know how they're supposed to have all their guests sit there the entire time.

30:54 Drew Yeah.

30:55 Guest They made like a little scene of it.

30:59 Drew You sure it wasn't just a plan thing?

31:00 Guest No, no. It definitely wasn't. She was mad. She was yelling in the parking lot. She was not having a good time.

31:06 Adam Oh, in the parking lot? Wow.

31:07 Guest She wasn't having a good time with her. She was in front of an Escalade.

31:10 Drew Did she let any of that loose on the show?

31:15 Guest You can tell she was getting a little steamed.

31:17 Drew What did he say? What did Jimmy say?

31:18 Guest I don't know.

31:18 Adam I didn't even hear you. He dropped the N word.

31:19 Drew Oh, yeah.

31:20 Adam Yeah. He's very insensitive.

31:22 Guest He said something about Star Jones.

31:24 Adam Hey, nigger.

31:25 Guest I don't even really know who that is.

31:27 Adam Yeah. He's not a big fan of Star Jones, and he shouldn't be a big fan of Star Jones, because Star Jones just seems like a narcissistic lunatic. I know there's that thing where it's like, oh, don't-

31:40 Drew That's a very popular way to be these days, Adam. I mean, we'll go through the dial a couple of times.

31:44 Adam She was talking about her wedding for 22 years before it actually went down. It just- See, here's my whole thing. I don't know what it is, but I believe when you get married, you should invite your friends and your family and you should shut the F up about it.

31:59 Drew Yes.

31:59 Adam You shouldn't be waving your ring around everyone. You shouldn't have your cake decorators do the first segment on your TV show. It's always weird to me when people are doing something and then calling attention to it.

32:15 Drew By the way, shouldn't that be the death knell of your program that you have nothing else to talk about, but your cake decorators?

32:20 Adam And it makes you wonder about whoever it is who married the crazy broad, which is my first mandate would be, look honey, you're 310 pounds. I don't need a lot of S at the office. Let's be real stealthy about this. You know what I mean? I don't even want to wear rings. You keep your original name, it'll be nice and cool. Copacetic, two bedrooms, mum's the word, Bob's your uncle. Let's keep moving. You know what I mean? I don't want you broadcasting it, literally every single morning for the six months leading up to the nuptials. It just seems crazy.

32:54 Drew But then it becomes acceptable television.

32:57 Adam Yes.

32:58 Drew That's even more nutty to me.

32:59 Adam Then it's like you turn on entertainment tonight, it's like we're at the Britney Spears wedding baby shower, and they're there, and the camera is going, and it's weird when it's personal stuff like kids, babies, weddings, and you've invited the entire camera crews, and Entertainment Tonight, and people, and us is covering it. This seems so narcissistic and invasive and stuff. Shouldn't you hate that? Intrusive? All right. So I'm with Jimmy. I don't even know who she is.

33:34 Yeah.

33:35 Adam Yeah. Me neither.

33:37 Guest We know her name is Star.

33:39 Adam Yes.

33:39 Guest That's all we know.

33:40 Drew What does she do?

33:41 Adam She's on The View, I believe.

33:43 Guest Was she the one that was on Touch, Find, Angel?

33:46 Drew Was that a show?

33:47 Adam No. No, that's Della Reese.

33:48 Guest Oh.

33:50 Adam I was thinking of a large black one.

33:52 Guest What's the- What do you want, Drew?

33:53 Adam I should get points for that.

33:55 Guest When's The View on? Is that like a morning-type show?

33:58 Adam Yeah.

33:58 Guest I don't know who she is.

34:00 Adam Yeah, you guys are rock stars.

34:01 Drew I'm surprised that Jimmy could- It's an ABC show, isn't it?

34:04 Guest We watch the Game Show Network exclusively. That's funny.

34:07 Adam Yeah. What do you watch on it?

34:09 Guest Lingo.

34:10 Adam Lingo?

34:10 Guest You guys like lingo?

34:11 Adam Where's your lingo from?

34:13 Guest It's present, man. Chuck Woolery.

34:14 Adam Oh, new lingo. I thought the Game Show Network just showed reruns of like Cattletails and stuff.

34:19 Drew Buddy Kennedy does shows there all the time with them.

34:21 Adam Oh, really? Dear friend.

34:23 Drew All right.

34:24 Adam So you watch new shows on the Game Show Network?

34:26 Guest Yeah.

34:26 Adam Okay.

34:27 Guest I'll tell you what's not as good though, Whammy. You remember Pressure Luck? It's called Whammy. Not cool.

34:35 Drew These guys like games, Adam.

34:36 Adam They do.

34:37 Drew We got games.

34:37 Adam Oh, we got games. We got Germany or Florida. We should round up a Germany or Florida.

34:43 Drew Can we do a Ranchero countdown?

34:44 Adam We got Aces Mexican Ranchero accordion countdown. It's another exciting game. I don't know if we're-

34:50 Ranchero countdown? No good. You don't like that game.

34:53 Adam I'm not sure if that's something that's in a repertoire tonight, but we'll go for it if we can. Yeah. All right. Where are we?

35:01 Drew Taking calls.

35:02 Adam Yeah. If we want, we could call engineer Chris up and have- Oh no, that's right. He was only here for nine months when we did that, never figured out how to work that goddamn card machine.

35:10 Guest Huh?

35:11 Adam That's right. I miss that kid.

35:14 Guest Okay.

35:15 Adam So wait. Let me give a little plug to Hawthorne Heights. The band is heading out on their North American tour and they're going to the UK through.

35:24 Drew Nice.

35:25 Adam Yeah. That's in Ohio.

35:30 Drew Sounds like it should be in Michigan.

35:31 Adam No. University of Kentucky is where it should be. They're going out on a UK tour and we'll hear something off the CD and all that stuff. All right? We cool? Sorry we just talked about Star Jones for the first 20 minutes.

35:44 Guest We at least have some context to the controversy we were a part of.

35:47 Adam Right.

35:48 Guest That's very good.

35:48 Adam Yeah. They're going to be on Kimmel tonight, so watch that. As a matter of fact, you can watch my show Too Late with Adam Corolla on Comedy Central.

35:56 Drew With the sound down.

35:57 Adam With the sound down. You listen to this show. Then you switch on over to Kimmel. You watch The Uncomfortable Silence with Vivica A. Fox, and then you watch Hawthorne Heights.

36:07 Guest There you go.

36:08 Adam Rock the Crown. Yes?

36:09 Guest Yes.

36:10 Adam Do you guys play outside or inside?

36:12 Guest Outside. Yeah.

36:13 Adam Nice. That means you've arrived.

36:15 Guest Hopefully. It was a lot of fun. Our first time ever being on TV.

36:19 Adam Oh, really?

36:20 Guest Well, as far as late night TV playing those shows, we've never done that before.

36:24 Adam Lisa?

36:25 Hi.

36:26 Adam You're 19?

36:27 Caller Yes.

36:28 Adam What's up?

36:28 Caller Okay. First, I want to say, Dr. Drew, you are super hot and Adam, the black kids out here really do love you.

36:34 Adam Oh, really? See? I always had a sneaking suspicion that the black folks were into me. Oh, no, you didn't. Yeah.

36:41 Caller Love you.

36:42 Adam Thank you, sweetie pie. Yeah, it's because I got the brilli-wee hair and I speak my mind and I like cars.

36:50 Drew All right, Lisa, what's going on?

36:51 Adam Go ahead, Lisa.

36:51 Caller Yeah, I have this crazy obsession with anime porn and it's getting out of control. I've literally been late for work, trying to get that last 10 or 15 minutes in just watching it because that's the only way I can get off.

37:05 Adam Drew. Wow, it's you. The blacks with their obsession, the young blacks with their obsession with the Japanese anime. It's now epidemic levels now. They just love Speed Racer, Kimba.

37:17 Drew They love it all. How long have you been into it? Since you were 15, it says here?

37:20 Caller Yeah. It's just better than regular porn to me. The people look perfect. You don't have to see any ugly faces, nice bodies or vice versa. There's a story line. It's just cool.

37:32 Drew Well, the story, women like the story. So I guess it's geared more towards female.

37:37 Caller The cartoons.

37:38 Drew Yeah. It's a cartoon with people with exaggerated body features.

37:42 Adam Is it? How's the penis?

37:46 Drew I don't know. How's the penis, Lisa?

37:47 Caller They're usually big but darker than the character. He could be really pink or peach, and his penis will be super brown or something.

37:56 Guest You find that attractive?

37:58 Caller I don't find it attractive. I just think anime porn is beautiful.

38:02 Guest Discolored penises are beautiful.

38:04 Drew How's the rest of your relationships?

38:06 Caller Yeah, that's the problem. I had a fiancé, and I couldn't get off with him. He would do oral on me, and I couldn't get off because I was so used to masturbating to anime porn. He opened up the X-Files telling me how his ex loves it when they do it. It's just really bad.

38:23 Drew Well, here's the deal.

38:24 Adam Wait a second. Are you used to vibrator or do you use your hand?

38:28 Caller Vibrator.

38:30 Adam Well, that.

38:30 Drew Transition. Why didn't you bring the vibrator in with your fiancé?

38:34 Caller Because he got jealous of it.

38:36 Adam Oh, he did.

38:37 Drew Yeah.

38:37 Adam He got drunk and fought it. Vibrator kicked his ass literally right in the ass.

38:42 Drew Literally. You need a guy that doesn't get so upset by that. Maybe you can wean yourself off the vibrator. Now, I need to know more about your history.

38:49 Adam But here's the whole thing. The thing about a vibrator for a guy is it's like a gun. It could be your worst nightmare or it can be your best friend. It's just whose hands is it in? You know what I mean? You don't have to-

39:02 Drew Directions are pointed.

39:03 Adam Right. You can use that thing like a conductor uses his baton.

39:07 Drew Right.

39:08 Adam It doesn't have to be a club you're getting beat over the head with.

39:11 Drew Lisa needs a passionate guy that's willing to do that. But here's Lisa. We need to know a little bit about your history to know if this really is a problem or not. Do you have any sexual abuse when you're growing up?

39:20 Caller I wasn't subjected to sexual abuse, but I did see my sister when I was about six or seven. I saw her get sexually abused or murdered.

39:29 Drew Murdered?

39:29 Caller Yeah.

39:30 Guest Whoa.

39:31 Adam And murdered.

39:32 Drew Oh my God.

39:33 Adam Who did this to her?

39:34 Caller At the time, until I was 14, I thought it was my mother, but I was adopted by my auntie.

39:41 Guest Hold on. Hold on.

39:41 Adam Hold on a second.

39:42 Drew We got to get to this.

39:42 Adam Hold on a second. Don't hang up on Lisa. We got to put her on hold. You know, I have this horribly racist thought, but the blacks, everyone's-

39:53 Drew Just referring to it as the blacks.

39:54 Adam Everyone's-

39:55 Drew Already offensive.

39:56 Adam Here's what I want to know. You tell me how it's mathematically possible for an entire race to be raised by their aunts. How does that work? Do they have some sort of child exchange program? Where if they're two sisters and they both have three kids, you just raise my three kids, I'll raise your three kids, that way we're covered, everyone gets raised by their aunt?

40:13 Drew No, I think there's sort of a ladder. You move up, you like roll over that bed game, somebody falls out of bed. One person doesn't have kids.

40:20 Adam All right, I'm just saying, how is it mathematically possible for everybody to be raised by their aunt?

40:26 Drew All that has to happen is one person's a total F-up and one person doesn't have kids. And then it rolls up.

40:30 Adam Who doesn't have kids? That's what I'm saying. What, you think there's some 30-year-old black chick that doesn't have kids? No, they exchange, Drew. Do the math. Oh, well whose math makes more sense? Thank you. You know I'm right. No, I just think they exchange. I think that's how it works. I think, you know, I'll crap out a few kids. I'll give them to my sister. My sister will give them her kids to me and everyone will be raised by their aunt.

40:58 Guest That's a time-tested tale.

41:00 Adam Well, how else could it work? Drew, you know I'm right.

41:03 Drew You're right.

41:04 Adam All right, Hawthorne Heights in the studio tonight. Lisa, don't hang up. I want to get back to this tragic story. And we'll get to that after this. Hey, buddy, it's Love Line, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LLVE-191, Hawthorne Heights, in studio tonight. The silence of black and white, name of the CD. JT Woodruff, one of the hardest-hitting free safeties in The Big Eight is here representing in Casey Calvert. Casey, like I said, great up man, not the wheels you'd like, not the moves, you'd north and south type runner, good solid punt returner. 26 games in the Pioneer League, never lost a ball, never muffed a punt. 27, I'm sorry, games in the Pioneer League, never called for a fair catch, never muffed one fumble.

42:25 Drew That's amazing.

42:26 Adam Never muffed a punt.

42:27 Drew Amazing.

42:28 Adam Yeah, average 12.3 every return.

42:30 Drew Tough as nails.

42:31 Adam Number 3 in the Pioneer League. Yeah, awesome, awesome tough guys, one on one in your squad.

42:35 Drew I want to hear about Lisa's sister.

42:37 Caller Huh?

42:37 Adam A toy ball? Let's talk to-

42:40 Guest Did not make it.

42:41 Adam Lisa, who's 19.

42:43 Drew Who's addicted to anime porn.

42:44 Adam Addicted to anime porn.

42:45 Drew Was beginning to tell us a rather extraordinary story.

42:48 Adam About her sister being sexually abused and murdered.

42:51 Guest Took a hell of a twist, didn't it?

42:52 Adam Yeah. What happened?

42:55 Caller Well, I was about six or seven and she wasn't brutally murdered, but she was tortured pretty bad, which wasn't a big surprise to me because we were all abused very bad, but I wasn't.

43:08 Adam So what happened?

43:09 Caller I literally saw them stick like a broomstick up her butt. Like I remember these things, like she was tortured that bad.

43:16 Adam And then who tortured her?

43:18 Caller My auntie. But at the time I thought that was my mother.

43:21 Adam What happened to your mother?

43:22 Caller Well, I found out when I was 14 that she was raped when she had me, like walking home or something. She was always a promiscuous lady, but she was raped and she was going to not have me. So my auntie stepped in and was like, you know, I don't want to go through having another child. Just give her to me. And until I was 14, I was in a foster home and that's when they told me that that's not my mother.

43:45 Adam Did your mom have any kids ever?

43:50 Caller She has 12 kids. She just had a child.

43:55 Adam How many kids?

43:56 Caller Yeah, and they're all in the system. We all have different fathers. Our oldest is 24 and her youngest is...

44:01 Adam Okay, look, I don't...

44:02 Drew Man, it's the society.

44:03 Adam I don't judge, but you Jews. Jew or Asian, I don't know which one you are, but you guys, Drew, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to...

44:12 Drew Lisa, why was the auntie torturing your sister?

44:16 Caller She was just a sick person. I mean, I remember her chaining... See, there was a thing, I guess, and my older auntie told me this, that she thought she could be reborn with me, turn into a new person. That's why I was spoiled. I got everything I wanted, beauty pads, all that. A good little girl, I had everything, but I remember them being chained up in closets, having to eat their own fishies.

44:37 Drew Oh my God. Lisa sounds like a sober Macy Gray.

44:41 Caller It was actually a case about it. I really don't want to get into it, but it was... Oh my God, my boyfriend makes me cum too much.

44:47 Drew Did she die because of this broomstick?

44:49 Adam Had to eat their own fishies.

44:50 Caller Yeah, she died, and at the time, I thought she was asleep because I was so young.

44:54 Drew Because of the broomstick issue?

44:55 Caller No, no, not the broomstick. They gave her something. They gave her something in a drink and she just passed out, and I thought she was asleep. I witnessed the whole thing.

45:03 Drew Wow. All right, Lisa. Then here's what starts to happen when kids are-

45:07 Adam Can't judge.

45:08 Drew Yeah, can't judge.

45:09 Adam Possible to judge.

45:10 Caller I'm a good person.

45:12 Adam No, you sound good. I believe everything happens for a reason.

45:15 Drew You sound amazing, and it's amazing that you survived all this. But the reality is, seeing all that extraordinarily traumatic stuff at a young age changes how your brain develops. It can make you very compulsed around things like sexuality, or drugs and alcohol, or even extreme activities of various types. Almost as though you can't experience things unless you have them extremely intensely before you. Sexual addictions is something that can definitely grow out of this. You may want to look into this. In fact, in Torrance, there's a Delamo Treatment Center that's specifically there for sexual addictions.

45:51 Adam What's in Delamo? Torrance Treatment Center?

45:54 Caller Yes.

45:55 Adam Why put the Delamo Treatment Center in Torrance? Why not Delamo?

45:59 Drew There's no Delamo.

46:00 Adam There's no Delamo?

46:01 Drew There's a Delamo Mall in Delamo. But is there a city named Delamo? No.

46:05 Adam There's got to be a city named Delamo.

46:06 Drew Everything Delamo is in Hawthorne and Torrance.

46:09 Adam Lisa? Yes. You know, you're smart and you sound reasonably intact for someone who's had your horrible, horrible upbringing.

46:19 Drew You could sort of close it out a little more with some treatment.

46:22 Adam You get some treatment, have a decent life for yourself, baby doll.

46:26 Caller Thank you.

46:27 Drew Basically, think of this as, all this anime stuff is you trying to find a way to regulate feelings that are unmanageable.

46:34 Adam But at this point, she's not slamming heroin and pregnant.

46:37 Drew No, it's amazing.

46:38 Adam That's a huge step up.

46:40 Drew Yes.

46:41 Adam You're the black, black sheep of your family for not crapping out 13 kids by the age of 19.

46:46 Drew God bless you.

46:47 Adam What are the blacks called the black sheep of their family? The white sheep?

46:49 Drew Black sheep.

46:50 Adam Really? But they're black. It's called the white sheep.

46:52 Drew We got to take a break.

46:53 Adam You guys call the white sheep. I'm just saying it doesn't make sense. Hey, Lisa.

46:57 Caller Yes.

46:58 Adam You don't have any kids, right?

47:00 Caller No. I have my own apartment, my own car. I work and go to school. I'm doing good.

47:03 Drew God bless you. You're doing great.

47:05 Adam Take care of yourself and keep taking care of yourself.

47:08 Caller Thank you.

47:08 Adam You're fine. All right. All right. Take care. Wow.

47:12 Drew What a story.

47:13 Adam 12 kids though. God love her. All in the system.

47:15 Guest All different fathers.

47:17 Adam All different fathers. Fantastic.

47:18 Guest Is that possible?

47:19 Adam Yeah. Well, it is because you can't tell anyone what to do in the society unless it's me wanting to put an edition on my garage. Then you can tell me anything you want. I just got a goddamn letter from the city telling me like front fence was too high, and the side fence was too, had to come down to three and a half feet. That's fine. You're on your 11th illegitimate kid, you can't say ass. All right. Drew, and by the way, I got to show you this letter because we're going to have a Waco-type standoff in a little while.

47:48 Drew Oh, yes. Oh, yes. At the new house or?

47:50 Adam Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes, Drew, because I ain't given in.

47:55 Drew Yeah.

47:55 Adam Screw that. Screw the man. That's Hawthorne Heights here, everybody. Take a look out. The Delamo Heights is going to open for you. Go find out where Delamo is.

48:05 Drew It's in Hawthorne.

48:06 Adam I swear there's a Delamo. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

48:58 Drew Get It On. I love Kizzy. It's always like my Kizer. It's always like one Zoom, one Z, one Zoom, Zoom Z. See? Yeah. Yeah. I've done that three years.

49:10 Adam Maybe five. See, you got the music in you. You understand?

49:19 Drew Read this.

49:19 Adam You know what I'm saying?

49:20 Drew Stop. Stop right there. If you had a hissy, you would be out of the house. Dr. Drew in the hissy.

49:26 Adam Yeah, one lucky person tonight will win a direct party pack. Who would have liked to have given it to Lisa?

49:32 Drew Lisa, no.

49:32 Adam Yeah, except for I forgot to read this for the first time. Party pack, here's the thing about me forgetting to do stuff. When I don't get paid, my memory's not so good.

49:41 Drew Funny how that works.

49:41 Adam That's funny how that works. Know what I mean? I rarely forget to go to work, but I do forget certain appointments, certain dates, certain things like that, where I'm not getting paid.

49:50 Drew I have a one word response to that.

49:51 Adam Pay me.

49:52 Drew Communism.

49:53 Adam Communism. Yeah, you wonder why? Yeah, that's how communism works.

49:56 Drew That's how it works.

49:57 Adam You get paid whether you show up to work or not. Yeah.

49:59 Drew You don't show up.

50:00 Adam That's right. The party pack includes CDs, poker set, money, and of course, some Durex condoms. Each week, we will decide the best caller of the night.

50:10 Drew Each night, it looks like.

50:11 Adam Oh, each night this week.

50:12 Drew Yeah.

50:13 Adam We will decide the best caller of the night, and we'll award them the party pack. Got to be 18 years of age or older. Brought to you by Durex. There's sex, and then there's Durex. All right.

50:22 Drew Pick some calls that are likely.

50:23 Adam Hawthorne Heights in the Hisi Night. No, we would like to. Drew, you have to sock the mic.

50:29 Drew Got it.

50:29 Adam Got to sock the mic. We will. We're going to hear a Hawthorne Heights song.

50:33 Drew Do that first?

50:34 Adam I think we should.

50:35 Drew Yeah, because we'll forget. Because you're not being paid for it.

50:37 Adam Yeah, I'm not getting paid for it, so we'll forget. What song are we hearing off of?

50:42 Drew Ohio, strangely enough, is for lovers.

50:43 Adam Silence of Black and White. Oh, Ohio is for lovers. All right, we queued up right around. This is Ohio is for lovers. Yeah. Hawthorne Heights, everybody.

54:50 Drew Nice burp there, Adam. Thank you.

54:51 Adam Was that on the air?

54:52 Drew Yeah, sure was.

54:53 Adam Well, you know why? Because you made me eat that baby Ruth bar.

54:57 Drew Yeah, I made you.

54:58 Adam Ironically. Well, you said, let's go find, you had to go forage for food like a raccoon in a dumpster.

55:04 Drew Found some.

55:05 Guest That's what you guys found was a baby Ruth bar.

55:07 Adam We found food. Yeah. I said to Drew, let's go back to the broadcast room. Let's go back to the studio this way. And Drew said, no, let's go this way. We'll find food.

55:16 Drew We did.

55:17 Adam And we found food. Because if you go through the sales office, you'll find boxes of stuff. Like that's the whole thing. Like if there's ever the nuclear holocaust or something, that's where we'll have to go. We'll live off Pepsi Free, Coke Zero, and baby Ruth bars.

55:33 Drew Coke Zero, Coke Zero, and baby Ruth, we know we got those back there all the time.

55:38 Adam Yeah.

55:38 Drew There's a 300-dollars supply of that.

55:39 Adam No, we can find a little cache of like Diet Red Bull or something.

55:43 Drew I'm going to get that. I'm getting Coke Zero during the next break.

55:46 Adam All right, buddy. Yeah. You guys want a warm Coke Zero?

55:49 Guest I had too much already tonight, actually.

55:51 Adam Let me explain, Drew. Drew would rather drink a free Coke that was 84 degrees.

55:56 Drew Boiling.

55:57 Adam That was boiling and spend 55 cents on a chilled one. Because you got a vending machine filled with Coke, Drew. Do you understand about you?

56:03 Drew Yeah, but at the zero.

56:05 Guest All right.

56:05 Adam But you would walk a quarter mile and get a warm Coke as opposed to walk over the vending machine and drop 55 cents.

56:13 Guest That's exactly how I am. I'll take the free stuff anytime no matter what.

56:16 Drew Something just truly visceral satisfying about that.

56:19 Adam There is. I believe that's why. Well, it's one reason why Americans are probably fat is because there's freebies. Well, you know, you go to the. Here's the thing. If you go to a buffet and you just make take one moderate serving and sit down and leave, you feel like you got ripped off.

56:37 Drew Yeah, definitely. Have you ever just walk anywhere in this country and you see the stimulation of all the different high carb food, high sugar food, high fat food?

56:45 Adam Yeah.

56:45 Drew It's hard not to eat.

56:47 Adam It is. Well, I mean, you look at it this way. What is the big difference, if any at all, between your need to eat and F? You know what I mean? Now, if you walk everywhere and you're being bombarded with pornography, you're going to get a boner and you're going to want to do something with it. Is there a big difference? I mean, you drive, I don't know what the average person, as far as billboards go, but you pass a bunch of McDonald's and KFC and Taco Bell and all that stuff. And after about three miles, you're like, I got to stop somewhere and eat something. Yeah. What if that was just naked chicks? I guess it's that way at the airport actually.

57:26 Drew But the only thing is you wouldn't stop.

57:28 Adam No.

57:29 Drew You just do your thing right there in the car. Yeah.

57:31 Adam And I'd use one of the wet wipes that the Colonel gave me. I'd actually just poke my dung through the box with the chicken came in. Makes a handy... Dung. Yeah. It's a nice receptacle. And a little of that grease. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Extra gooey. Okay. Megan?

57:54 Yeah?

57:55 Adam You're 27?

57:56 Caller Yes.

57:57 Adam All right. You're addicted to one night stands?

58:00 Caller Yeah. I've noticed I have a pattern that between my long-term relationships, after we break up, there's a period of promiscuity.

58:10 Adam Yeah. All right.

58:11 Caller And the latest avenue to find those one night stands has been the online matchmaking sites. And that's a great way... I guess not many women want to have just one night stands. You know, so when I connect with these people, you know, the guys are like, yeah, definitely, you know, college like that.

58:31 Adam Yeah. No, they don't go, yeah, definitely. Are you a dude? You got your junk cut off? Okay, you cop. Let's get a ton of that. It's not like, oh, you're hot. Let's get on. I mean, you gotta have the skepticism of the online, you know, purveyor of sex. Yes. You have a lot of guys asking questions?

58:50 Caller No, nobody ever really ever asked. You know, we exchange a few e-mails and then we talk on the phone a little bit. And then we just meet somewhere neutral. And we're like, all right, hey, whose place do you want to go to?

59:00 Adam You know what I do, Drew? When I made it, you know, 5C, like I'm cruising online and there's some chick like me. She's like, yeah, I'm 27. I'm hot. I just got done with my boyfriend looking for, you know, one night stand, no strings attached. I'm like, this is a dude, right? Right. Of course. And she's like, no, I'm a hot chick. And I'm like, okay, name two countries involved with World War II. I don't know. Okay, we're in. That's how you know. That's how you know she's a chick. You don't know anything about World War II.

59:30 Drew I'm just a little bit sort of perplexed by all this. Megan, do you ever find you're not attracted to the guy or don't want to have sex with one of these meetings?

59:36 Caller I'm sorry. I repeat the question.

59:38 Drew Do you ever, would you ever meet one of these guys in person and realize you're not attracted to them?

59:43 Caller Yeah, that's happened once. And I was just up front and I'm like, I'm sorry, I don't think this is going to work. And he was like, okay.

59:50 Guest Once out of how many times?

59:54 Caller Once out of about eight?

59:55 Guest Ballparking.

59:58 Drew Eight times?

59:59 Caller Yeah.

1:00:00 Guest That's a pretty good ratio.

1:00:01 Caller It's been eight times in about four months. And I don't, you know, I can't really explain why I like the one night stand.

1:00:13 Guest Lack of commitment.

1:00:15 Adam Megan, I just, I got to say this. Man, what year was Pearl Harbor?

1:00:21 Caller Pearl Harbor was in 44, I believe.

1:00:23 Adam 44. That would have been almost the end of the war.

1:00:25 Drew She's a history teacher at local high school.

1:00:27 Adam 44.

1:00:29 Caller 1944.

1:00:30 Adam 44. Okay. That was almost the end of the war. And?

1:00:35 Caller No, it's not.

1:00:36 Adam And name the two Japanese cities we dropped the atomic bomb on. Oh, now this you should know.

1:00:41 Caller Hiroshima.

1:00:42 Drew And?

1:00:43 Caller And there's another one. Oh, sorry.

1:00:47 Adam Oh, all right. All right. See, that's my point. Now we can get it on. Couldn't come up Nagasaki.

1:00:53 Guest That's how it took.

1:00:54 Adam All right.

1:00:54 Guest All right.

1:00:54 Adam That's solid. That's a hot chick right there. No, dude. Pretending to be a chick. That's a chick.

1:01:00 Drew All right, Megan. First of all, you get the condoms. Huh?

1:01:02 Adam Yeah. We're giving you the Durex condoms. What do you look like?

1:01:05 Caller Well, I'm 5'7, 140, C-cup, short brown hair, green eyes.

1:01:14 Guest How much junk is in the trunk? How much junk is in the trunk?

1:01:19 Caller I have a nice small butt. The big area is probably my hips.

1:01:24 Adam All right. And how many-

1:01:26 Guest Use those condoms then.

1:01:27 Drew That's what Adam calls haunchy.

1:01:29 Adam How many of these- Yeah, my mom's got this. It's a turnoff. How many of these? What do you- How many times have you done this?

1:01:39 Caller With online people, about 12.

1:01:43 Drew And how many times have you done it overall between these longer term relationships?

1:01:52 Caller Oh, just since- Well, too, like I broke up with my high school boyfriend. I was promiscuous and I had a six-year relationship, and then I was promiscuous, and now this month ended, and now there's more promiscuity.

1:02:03 Drew And by promiscuity, you do this 10 or 12 times? You do it 100 times?

1:02:07 Caller No, I've met 10 or- I've met 12 individuals in about a six-month period online.

1:02:14 Drew Megan, but is that typical for your interim experience between relationships?

1:02:18 Caller Oh, okay. Yeah, that sounds about average.

1:02:20 Drew All right. And it's usually about six months before you get in a relationship again?

1:02:24 Caller Yeah.

1:02:25 Drew All right. And provided that there was no trauma like sexual abuse or physical abuse, it just sounds like you are panicked to be alone. You were in a complete and total panic.

1:02:35 Caller Well, you know, and I think that might be a little inaccurate. I do live alone. I enjoy living alone.

1:02:43 Guest You just don't like to sleep alone.

1:02:44 Adam Right.

1:02:45 Caller Maybe. I sound like I- Well, yeah.

1:02:47 Adam What do you do for a living?

1:02:51 Caller I'm afraid to say because I might give away my identity too much. I'm in the medical field.

1:02:56 Adam The medical field?

1:02:58 Caller Yeah.

1:02:59 Adam So you're an educated woman?

1:03:01 Caller Well, yeah. And I'm educated. And, you know-

1:03:04 Adam Obviously, you know that World War II started when the Japan bombed Pearl Harbor in 1944.

1:03:10 Drew Were you, again, were you traumatized growing up? You must have been some trauma.

1:03:13 Caller Well, I don't believe I had any sexual trauma.

1:03:16 Drew Well, I didn't say necessarily sexual trauma. I'm thinking more about abandonment, abandonment, neglect.

1:03:21 Caller Yeah.

1:03:21 Caller The only thing I can think of, both my parents worked at night. My mother went back to school when I was 12, and I helped raise my little sisters.

1:03:28 Caller They were my younger than I.

1:03:29 Adam Latchkey, Drew.

1:03:30 Drew That's what you used to call that.

1:03:32 Caller I felt very loved, and I knew my parents loved me, but I didn't see them a lot.

1:03:35 Adam All right. You're a little bit of a loner.

1:03:39 Drew Yeah. But here's the deal. I get the sense that, yes, you're comfortable being alone because you're used to being alone, but you're in a panic about being alone. You only know how to make human contact in a surgical strike.

1:03:50 Adam Yeah.

1:03:50 Drew Go ahead and get it and get back from it because- Yeah. God knows if you actually have a relationship, it's going to leave. Then somehow you overcome that somehow with your relationship, you are able to have them. So it's a funny situation, Megan.

1:04:04 Caller I don't have abandonment issues when I'm in relationships. I feel very-

1:04:07 Drew No, I know. That's my point. You have them when you're not.

1:04:10 Adam Here's the thing, Megan. You're looking at this as a problem.

1:04:14 Caller I think it is.

1:04:15 Adam Okay. So it's time for you to treat it like anything in life, where you see it as a problem, and it's potentially dangerous.

1:04:22 Drew And get evaluated.

1:04:23 Adam And start working on it.

1:04:25 Drew Well, just get an evaluation, first of all. Have somebody look at it, who really can assess this properly.

1:04:31 Adam And I would say, you're probably the kind of person that's going to end up getting married, having some kids. This should be a chapter of your life that remains your own.

1:04:40 Drew But don't share this.

1:04:42 Adam Don't share it unless you end up with one of the guys you had sex with.

1:04:45 Guest Guys really don't like to hear about stuff like this.

1:04:47 Adam Not so much the online stuff. Yeah.

1:04:50 Caller Not first date conversation.

1:04:51 Guest No, no, no.

1:04:53 Drew I would definitely not bring that up on the first date. Megan, it sounds so compartmentalized and clandestine and compulsive.

1:05:03 Caller I'm very into gratification. If I want something, I just go do it.

1:05:07 Drew Are you an alcoholic?

1:05:09 Caller No substance abuse. I've never smoked or done drugs.

1:05:12 Drew All right.

1:05:13 Adam Well, you got to get into it.

1:05:13 Drew But the point is-

1:05:15 Adam Believe me, start smoking some pot.

1:05:17 Guest It sounds like you're slacking.

1:05:18 Drew It's a non-integrated experience. It's the sort of part of yourself needing gratification in that moment and then going back into your isolation mode.

1:05:26 Adam Here's what you need. You need a bong in the game show network. You're not going to be meeting any Johns-

1:05:31 Drew Funny you should say that.

1:05:32 Adam In the Denny's parking lot.

1:05:33 Drew That's the Hawthorne Heights manual.

1:05:35 Adam Yeah. Megan?

1:05:37 Caller Yes.

1:05:37 Adam Quick question. Ally and Axis powers?

1:05:40 Drew Who's who?

1:05:41 Adam Who's who?

1:05:42 Caller Our allies were- The Axis powers were Italy, Germany, and the US.

1:05:49 Drew The Axis powers.

1:05:50 Adam Italy, Germany, and US. Were the Axis powers. All right. We're all fighting on the same side. Yes. We were fighting-

1:05:57 Drew The allies?

1:05:57 Adam Allies. We were not fighting.

1:06:01 Caller We weren't fighting allies. Allies are the people on our side.

1:06:04 Adam Right. Which included Italy and Germany?

1:06:10 Caller No, those were our enemies.

1:06:12 Adam Okay. All right.

1:06:13 Drew Was there a third enemy?

1:06:15 Caller Japan.

1:06:16 Drew Okay.

1:06:17 Adam 44. All right, baby. Just checking your stuff. All right. Get some help. You're in the medical field.

1:06:26 Drew Yeah. Here's the deal. Of course, you might check out the book Drama, The Gifted Child. As you know, people that are caretakers have trauma histories of various types, often tender and difficult to get your hands on. Certainly, without professional help, it's almost impossible. In order to be effective in your job, that's the book cracked I wrote about. It's very difficult if you don't have good boundaries and a good sense of your own self.

1:06:46 Adam Yeah. I remember the speech very quickly, very clearly, I should say. December 7th, 1944. A day that will live in infamy, although it will be screwed up by a lot of chicks who's really not that interested in war.

1:07:02 Drew Yeah.

1:07:03 Adam All right. A day that will probably live in infamy amongst the old white males. Yeah?

1:07:12 Drew Yeah.

1:07:12 Adam But not chicks. Not even educated ones. Women hate war so much, they refuse to know anything about it.

1:07:20 Drew They're going to get angry that you're interested in it. The History Channel, I think my wife is going to throw stuff at the TV when I put that on.

1:07:26 Adam Yeah. You know what it is. Here's the other thing too. They treat war like they treat World War I, World War II, not as if it was a historical event, but it's some-

1:07:39 Drew Mishap.

1:07:39 Adam Some, not even a mishap, it's just another one of your hobbies that they have no interest in.

1:07:44 Guest Boring movies. They don't want to watch the films about it or the channels about it. Yeah.

1:07:49 Adam They look at it like, well, look, it's rotisserie football. No, I don't know what Randy Moss' stats were last year, but you have no idea what the difference between acrylic nails and a French tip is. You know what I mean? It's like, no, no, this is a historical event. That's a personal hobby of mine. Yeah?

1:08:10 Drew Yeah.

1:08:11 Adam No? Yeah. Let's take a break.

1:08:13 Drew Yeah.

1:08:14 Adam Yeah?

1:08:14 Drew Yeah.

1:08:14 Adam Howthorne Heights here tonight. We will hear something else off the CD and a couple of you take a quick break. Be right back after this. Yeah! Loveline!

1:08:54 Drew Adam's on a roll tonight.

1:08:55 Adam Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Arthur and Heights, it's due tonight. JT and Casey are both here. The Silence of the Black and White, name of the city. Just explain what a good thing the atomic bomb was for the Japanese. I'm serious. Here's the deal. We dropped a couple of atomic bombs on Japan and killed 100,000, not much more than 100,000 Japanese. That's all. Now, if we would have launched a campaign and actually invaded Japan, first off, we would have had to just drop incendiary bombs on that place for the first month and just torch the entire, all of Japan. We'd just burn it to the ground. Then the Marines would have went in there and just slaughtered everybody. It would have been millions dead. So, good thing. Yeah. They could have given up. They could have. They didn't do it. So we dropped another one. Still a good thing. Because we saved lives. We saved lives. Hey, 100,000 versus a couple million. Do the math. All right.

1:09:58 Drew Well, explain what you're saying about the island campaigns.

1:10:01 Adam I was just saying that these guys fought to the death in the islands that we tried to get to islands. They were outside of Japan, so we could make air bases, so we could bomb Japan. It was all about torching Japan and getting the range for bombers to get close enough to Japan, so we could start torching Japan with a bombing campaign. And these guys fought to the death on those islands that weren't even their islands. Know what I mean?

1:10:25 Drew Because they believed that we were like...

1:10:27 Adam They believed that we would do to them what they would have done to us, which is just rape all the women and enslave all the guys and torture everyone and start death camps. That's what they did. So we bombed their asses. That's how it goes. Don't F with the biggest guy on the block. You're going to get torched. That's it. You shouldn't have bombed Pearl Harbor in 1944. But you did. And we built a time machine and went back three years. And we bombed your ass. Anyone know something? They were working on atomic bombs. And you know what? They would have dropped it on New York in a heartbeat if they had a chance. Of course they would have. Of course they would have. You don't think they would have?

1:11:08 Drew In a heartbeat.

1:11:08 Adam In a heartbeat. TS baby. All you pussies who don't think that was a favor we did for them, go back over there. Go over there and be with your brothers. Wisdom of the Orient. Kiss my ass. Christa? Yeah? Tired of this country apologizing for everything. Let me tell you something. We had prisoners of war. We kept them as prisoners. We got a couple of guys over at Abu Ghraib. What's the big deal? A female interrogator showed her his bra strap and then took the Quran and dropped it on the ground. These guys had death marches. You understand? They made mass graves, mowed people with machine guns and threw them into mass graves. They killed millions of people. That's what they did. A bra strap? Talking about the Japanese. You want to get into the Nazis? What they did? What do we do? What do we do? We just keep people, we feed them, we let them go. There were such pussies in this country, you know what I mean? You know, all the guys in the Baton Death March, you think they would have died to go to Abu Ghraib? Would have been a luxury hotel for them. Here's your prayer mat, here's your three hots, there's your cot, Mecca's that way, by the way. Relax, speak in your tongue. Now, instead, you're just going to walk through a baton, 50,000, you would die walking to a work camp. Fantastic, everybody. Great people. Awesome. They didn't deserve that bomb. Hell yeah, they deserve that bomb. Of course they did. Krista?

1:12:41 Drew All right, Krista, what's going on?

1:12:43 Adam Just tired all the pussies in this country. Getting their stupid left-wing crap and trying to rewrite history. Go ahead, Krista.

1:12:51 Caller All right, so I have this boyfriend, and he broke up with me because I get off on pain.

1:12:57 Drew So somebody-

1:12:57 Guest Not good.

1:12:59 Caller I don't know why because nothing bad has ever happened to me.

1:13:03 Drew Well, usually it's because you were beat up a little bit growing up. Do you ever have a prong illness or anything like that when you're growing up?

1:13:08 Caller No.

1:13:09 Drew Did you get anybody hit you when you're growing up?

1:13:11 Caller No. I was pretty mad.

1:13:15 Adam So it was pretty when you get that, no.

1:13:18 Drew Yeah, that was it.

1:13:19 Caller Into the microphone.

1:13:21 Adam What happened? Nothing? Where's your dad? Who's drinking?

1:13:23 Caller I don't know my dad.

1:13:25 Adam What year was Pearl Harbor?

1:13:26 Drew You don't know your dad.

1:13:27 Caller How come?

1:13:28 Caller I don't know. I just, because my, I don't know.

1:13:33 Drew Well, that's not an acceptable answer.

1:13:35 Caller I know. I was born and he wasn't there. He never knew my mom was pregnant, and he broke up and he left. So.

1:13:43 Adam Who raised you? Anybody? Just your mom?

1:13:45 Drew No dad.

1:13:46 Caller No.

1:13:47 Drew No male figure?

1:13:48 Caller No.

1:13:49 Adam No step-dads? No nothing?

1:13:50 Caller No.

1:13:51 Adam How old was your mom when she had you? Never remarried, never hooked up, never anything?

1:13:58 Caller No.

1:13:59 Adam How about grandparents?

1:14:01 Caller Well, they're my grandpa and my grandma, but we don't really see each other very often.

1:14:06 Adam Why is that?

1:14:06 Caller Well, my grandma died and my grandpa, his girlfriend's a witch, so we never go over there.

1:14:13 Adam An actual witch or just a bad person?

1:14:16 Caller She's a really bad person.

1:14:17 Adam She has a big cauldron and she doesn't stir.

1:14:21 Drew Laughing at Eichlin.

1:14:22 Adam Bad news. She can't play. All right. What kind of violence do you enjoy? What kind of pain do you enjoy when you're having sex?

1:14:31 Caller Well, I'm really submissive and I just like being choked and slapped, and my hair pulled and stuff like that. I thought it was normal to like that. Then she was like, you're weird.

1:14:40 Drew What's the point of real pain or just as a playful thing?

1:14:45 Caller Not like if they choke me until I blacked out, I'd probably freak out. But I don't know. I love tattoos and piercings. When I get them, it's sexual.

1:14:56 Adam When did you lose your virginity?

1:14:58 Caller When I was 16.

1:15:00 Drew This isn't adding up for us.

1:15:03 Adam How about super domineering, religious mom who's domineering? Anything like that?

1:15:09 Caller Oh, she's not religious at all.

1:15:12 Drew That would be an eating disorder.

1:15:13 Adam Yeah, I'm grasping at straws at this point.

1:15:16 Drew So I just cannot accept that there wasn't some rough housing, rough sort of-

1:15:22 Adam Trade.

1:15:23 Caller Trade is what I call it...

1:15:24 Drew .treatment when you were younger. No?

1:15:27 Caller No. It was just me, my mom, and my sister.

1:15:29 Drew But when you were disciplined, when you did something bad-

1:15:32 Adam Did she ever beat you with a belt or anything?

1:15:34 Caller No, not at all.

1:15:35 Drew She never hit you with her hand?

1:15:37 Caller No.

1:15:37 Drew And she never hit you with an object?

1:15:39 Caller No.

1:15:40 Adam Lost virginity at 16.

1:15:42 Drew And no prolonged illness or anything like that when you're growing up?

1:15:44 Caller No.

1:15:45 Hmm.

1:15:47 Adam Well, we're going to flip over all the cards because we just don't- Well, I don't know, but let me ask you this, Drew. Hold on a second.

1:15:53 Drew Not everything has to fall as, you know.

1:15:56 Adam Most, most women enjoy being at-

1:16:01 Drew Out of control.

1:16:02 Adam A little out of control. Swept away. What do you call that, Drew? You usually call it something.

1:16:06 Drew So she used it submissive, passive or-

1:16:08 Adam Yeah. It's like the man is driving in bed.

1:16:13 Drew Well, you know what I've said to you before is that if they feel like their sexuality is sort of bad or dirty, if somebody sort of makes it that they have to be sexual, they're no longer expressing a part of themselves they're in control of, and it's okay then. It's permitted.

1:16:27 Adam So most women, even healthy women, enjoy little tug on the hair, little slap on the ass, and whose daddy know you love a bitch. Right? Yeah? Yeah. Okay. So with that in mind, isn't it possible that there's just a certain percentage that like it a step further without any history of abuse?

1:16:50 Drew Sure.

1:16:50 Adam Maybe that's Krista, and maybe just growing up without a father.

1:16:55 Drew I'd still wanted there to be something biological.

1:16:57 Adam I do too.

1:16:57 Drew You didn't do a speed history or anything like that, or cocaine, or?

1:17:02 Caller I used to do a riddle in a lot. Like I'd get it.

1:17:04 Drew There we go. Now it's starting.

1:17:06 Adam That's the speed. Yeah.

1:17:07 Drew That's the speed.

1:17:07 Adam All right.

1:17:08 Drew There we go. Because to me, there has to have been some neurobiological shift to make you that way.

1:17:13 Caller That would make me that way?

1:17:16 Drew It's something that helps me at least. It gives me something to hang my hat on. That starts to make sense then.

1:17:20 Guest There is at least a problem.

1:17:22 Drew Well, it's not the problem. It's not the addiction so much as the speed and stimulus in one of the drugs that do change your brain chemistry. One of the things that could be happening is she needs arousal to feel sexual. She needs those arousal system that amygdala function is off. Using anything else besides speed now?

1:17:37 Caller No. I just drink. That's it.

1:17:39 Adam Did she say she was using speed or she said she used to be on a riddle?

1:17:42 Drew Riddle. Now she's drinking. She's 18 and drink. Was dad an alcoholic?

1:17:46 Adam Don't know.

1:17:47 Caller I don't know.

1:17:48 Drew Did your mom ever talk about that?

1:17:49 Caller No.

1:17:50 Drew Why don't you ask her about that? Because that would bring this all a little more into focus. Because alcoholic behavior can go down this path.

1:17:56 Adam What did your mom tell you about your biological father?

1:17:59 Caller She told me his name was John and that's pretty much it.

1:18:03 Guest Why bother with him telling you his name is John? That gives you nothing.

1:18:09 Drew Did you have a million questions for her when you were growing up? I'm sure. I guarantee you she had long talks about it.

1:18:14 Guest I got nothing for you.

1:18:15 Adam Wait a minute.

1:18:16 Guest His name is John.

1:18:18 Adam It was a one night stand.

1:18:19 Drew Yeah, but listen, a five year old girl is going, who's my dad? Why don't I have a dad? Who was he? Why did you leave him? What was he like? What was he like? Of course those questions were asked. Of course.

1:18:29 Caller But my sister didn't know her dad either. And he's different than mine. And she didn't tell her anything either.

1:18:34 Guest What's his name?

1:18:35 Caller Tom.

1:18:36 Guest Tom and John. That's all we got.

1:18:38 Adam That's one syllable now. Hey, how many syllables is your name?

1:18:41 Drew By the way.

1:18:41 Adam What's your name, Ed? Oh.

1:18:45 Caller I like that very much.

1:18:45 Drew Something's going on with mom here.

1:18:47 Caller I mean, what's up?

1:18:48 Adam What's up with your mom?

1:18:49 Caller I have no idea.

1:18:51 Adam Well, two kids and two guys gone.

1:18:54 Drew I think you maybe look at your mom and really who she is and what her behavior has been like.

1:18:58 Adam Go ahead and get out of the house first. You don't throw up on the carpet.

1:19:01 Drew Yes.

1:19:02 Adam Hey, Krista. Pearl Harbor, what year was that?

1:19:07 Caller I heard the tick before, say 44, so there you go.

1:19:11 Caller I dropped out of school. I don't care about that stuff.

1:19:13 Guest Okay. That's also not good. So we got the choking thing and we got the not going to school.

1:19:19 Drew Crazy mom, dad. Riddlin, alcohol.

1:19:23 Adam Krista.

1:19:23 Drew This is starting to add up a little bit.

1:19:25 Adam There you go. Yeah, how about you take care of yourself. Let's please not get pregnant because I guarantee when you do, your son or daughter will not know their dad. One syllable name of their father.

1:19:38 Caller No, I'm not promiscuous at all.

1:19:40 Adam Doesn't matter.

1:19:41 Guest Yeah.

1:19:42 Adam It's going to happen between getting drunk and being how you are. Getting choked.

1:19:46 Guest Yeah.

1:19:46 Adam Getting choked, something's going to happen.

1:19:47 Guest Lay off that choking nonsense.

1:19:49 Caller Yeah.

1:19:50 Drew People die doing that.

1:19:51 Guest Yeah, they do.

1:19:52 Adam I know.

1:19:53 Guest Asphyxiation.

1:19:54 Adam That's how I went.

1:19:55 Drew Oh, we really did.

1:19:56 Adam Yeah.

1:19:57 Drew This life or the previous one?

1:19:58 Adam I believe I was submissive. I was a submissive.

1:20:01 Drew Well, as you know, everything happens for a reason.

1:20:05 Guest I don't get the choking. A little nibble here and there, maybe it's smack on the butt like Adam said. Literally choking? Come on.

1:20:13 Adam I would start believing in reincarnation if people didn't get into that crap or they were nobility or they were proud warriors or whatever. What happened? Trick went bad.

1:20:25 Drew Right.

1:20:25 Adam Passive life.

1:20:26 Drew I was a Chinese peasant rolled over by plow.

1:20:29 Adam No, I was a submissive and a dominator. It's a dominant relationship.

1:20:34 Guest Not too much pressure.

1:20:35 Adam John came in and just choked life out of me. He was in me. I think I was a chick though. I'm hoping I was.

1:20:43 Drew At least that's how I recall it felt like.

1:20:45 Adam Anyway, he killed me and then he finished about a half hour later. And they buried me on Mark Griffith. That's the person I believe. OK, now there's this reincarnation. It's true. It exists. All right.

1:21:00 Drew Are we going to hear another Hawthorne Heights song?

1:21:02 Adam We may. Let's see how the guys act.

1:21:05 Guest This is not about choking people.

1:21:06 Drew Oh, you know what we need to do? We need to play Ranchero Countdown.

1:21:08 Adam Oh.

1:21:09 Drew Let's do that with the guys. Because there's been no Germany or Florida, so we got to play a game. These guys are game show network freaks.

1:21:17 Adam Here's how Ace's Mexican Ranchero Accordion Countdown works. Ranchero music. You guys are from Ohio.

1:21:25 Guest Yeah.

1:21:26 Drew You never heard the glorious Ranchero.

1:21:28 Adam You did not know the wonderful song stylings of the Ranchero band. If you live out in Southern California, you hear a lot of Ranchero music, a lot of Ranchero stations, a lot of folks driving around with Brahma bold decals on pickup trucks with the windows open because the air conditioning is on the fritz. Playing Ranchero music.

1:21:44 Drew Even when the air conditioning works.

1:21:46 Adam Still got to let the neighborhood know where you stand as far as Ranchero goes.

1:21:49 Guest How are the mustaches on these dudes?

1:21:52 Adam Mega. Not minor. Mega. If you work on enough construction sites as I have in my career, you'll learn to love the Ranchero music. Now, the backbone of Ranchero music is of course the accordion. It's a beautiful melodic music.

1:22:07 Guest It's a great instrument.

1:22:08 Adam Awesome. We take a random Ranchero song, we cue it up to a random spot in the song, and we try to guess how many seconds before you hear the accordion. Drew, somebody from a band, I can't remember her name, was Dead Nuts On with Six Seconds.

1:22:26 Drew Oh, yeah.

1:22:26 Adam Which seemed like a lifetime.

1:22:27 Drew Oh, it was a few weeks back. Yes.

1:22:31 Adam Now, what are you going for, Drew?

1:22:32 Drew I'm going to just smack dab in the average range, I'll say four seconds.

1:22:36 Adam Four seconds? That's not average. That's a little bit.

1:22:39 Drew It's a little high. A little high.

1:22:41 Caller JT.?

1:22:43 Guest I'll go a little lower. Three seconds.

1:22:44 Adam Three seconds. Casey?

1:22:48 Guest I don't know.

1:22:49 Adam I know.

1:22:50 Drew Not acceptable.

1:22:51 Adam Not acceptable. I have to give a number. Nobody knows.

1:22:54 Guest 300,000 kilowatts a second. I'm going to go with five.

1:22:59 Drew Five.

1:23:00 Adam Five.

1:23:00 Drew You know what your bet is now.

1:23:02 Adam Uninspired, but still an answer.

1:23:04 Drew You got one bet.

1:23:05 Adam Immediate?

1:23:05 Drew Immediate.

1:23:06 Adam All right. I got to go. Well, Drew, I don't like you spoon feeding me. One second.

1:23:11 Drew You can always go two seconds.

1:23:12 Adam I'm going to go two seconds. So what do you think of that?

1:23:14 Drew Well, it's because then you get zero to two. You cover that territory.

1:23:17 Adam Well, but okay. All right. I'm going two seconds. What do you think of that?

1:23:21 Drew All right.

1:23:22 Adam So let's count it down.

1:23:24 Drew Five, four, three, two, one.

1:23:28 Caller Go.

1:23:36 Adam What is that?

1:23:37 Drew Is that an accordion?

1:23:40 Adam No, I don't think I ever hear an accordion.

1:23:45 Drew This is actually German Oompa music.

1:23:47 Guest This is not. No. That's a lot of tubas for ranchero music.

1:23:50 Drew Well, no ranchero is the-

1:23:55 Adam It's the worst goddamn music ever made.

1:24:02 Drew There's got to be an accordion in there.

1:24:04 Adam We may have to pick another song.

1:24:05 Drew Let's play again.

1:24:07 Adam You know what happened? One of the band members came rushing into rehearsal and said, I've got it. I found an instrument more annoying than the accordion. And everyone's like, that's impossible. We've been annoying white people with these accordions for a thousand years.

1:24:21 Drew Oh, but listen, the tuba. No, but listen, we've found, discovered through studying the history of rent chair music is the glorious blend of the German beer makers who arrived in Mexico and the indigenous music of Mexico. So the Oompa got blended with the giant guitars.

1:24:41 Adam It's like that Reese's Peanut Butter Cup commercial, except for replace chocolate with ass and replace peanut butter with ass. You understand? Ass and ass. Pow!

1:24:53 Drew You got ass on my ass.

1:24:54 Adam Super ass!

1:24:56 Drew All right. Same bet.

1:24:58 Adam Same bet, same bet.

1:24:59 Drew And, hang on a second. We got about three, two, wait a minute. I screwed that up.

1:25:05 Adam I got to cue up.

1:25:06 Drew Two, one, go. I hear it there. There, there.

1:25:15 Guest There it is.

1:25:16 Adam All right. Okay. But now, what did you start? At 30?

1:25:21 Guest Yeah.

1:25:21 Adam That was about seven seconds. Casey took five. I mean, two seconds is a lifetime.

1:25:27 Drew Very uncharacteristic.

1:25:28 Adam Two and a half seconds. Yeah.

1:25:29 Drew Those are uncharacteristic songs.

1:25:30 Guest Did he win a Brahma Bowl?

1:25:32 Adam He won a Brahma Bowl decal. Yeah. And one knee pad for a set and tie. We'll take ourselves a little break, and we'll be right back after this. That's pretty accurate. Loveline, be right back. Yeah, everybody. Yeah. Get it on. Hacienda Heights in Studio No. You know anyone from Hacienda Heights?

1:26:27 Drew No, can't say I do.

1:26:28 Adam I do.

1:26:29 Drew I think I've been there. Oh, I had a baseball tournament there.

1:26:32 Adam Good. Not yourself, the kids.

1:26:33 Drew No, the kids.

1:26:34 Adam Yeah, see, Drew lives to his children.

1:26:37 Drew Yes? You have four of them.

1:26:39 Adam I have three. Yeah, you only have three now, Drew. In the studio tonight, we'll hear something off the CD. By the way, the band is going to be on Jimmy Kimmel Live tonight. Watch a big outdoor stage, playing the outdoor summer stage. I know you've arrived. The Silence of Black and White, name of the CD, and my show. Say my show? Jimmy Kimmel Live, too? Oh, Too Late. That will curl on tonight as well. Let's hear something from the band.

1:27:06 Drew Yes.

1:27:07 Adam Let's do that. All right. We queued up. This one's called Nicky FM. Yeah, Hawthorne Heights, not what you call a hard out. You know what I mean?

1:31:08 Guest Yeah.

1:31:08 Adam Radar's a soft out. Got to be quiet and listen. Another good song. You guys play a few songs tonight?

1:31:16 Guest Yeah, we played five.

1:31:17 Adam Played five? Played like one or one and change for On The Air.

1:31:21 Guest Yeah.

1:31:21 Adam And then you just played for the throngs of Elated Kids that were there, right?

1:31:25 Guest Yep.

1:31:27 Adam Was that one of them?

1:31:28 Guest That was one of them. That was the outro song.

1:31:32 Adam Oh, so yeah, you played one all the way through On The Air and then you played the one and you played them off.

1:31:36 Guest Yeah. As they say. And Jimmy and his girlfriend watched it. It was really nice. Sarah Silverman.

1:31:45 Adam No, I'm Jimmy's girlfriend.

1:31:47 Drew Shh, don't tell him. Stop, guys.

1:31:50 Adam Yeah, oh, the beard, Sarah Silverman. Yeah.

1:31:53 Guest The beard.

1:31:54 Adam Well, some people think he's straight. It's a term. Look it up, man. JD?

1:32:01 Caller Yeah.

1:32:02 Adam You're 15?

1:32:03 Caller Yeah.

1:32:04 Adam Sorry.

1:32:06 Guest You did seem pretty bummed about that, dude.

1:32:08 Adam Yeah.

1:32:09 Caller It sucks.

1:32:10 Adam Yeah. 15 does suck. Yeah, no driver's license.

1:32:14 Caller No driver's license, no right to leave the house, no right to be out past 10. Yeah.

1:32:18 Adam Yeah. All right. Well, what do you need to do past 10 anyway?

1:32:28 Caller Hey, that's not funny.

1:32:31 Drew Okay.

1:32:31 Caller Jog. I need to jog past 10.

1:32:34 Adam All right, buddy. What's your question?

1:32:38 Caller It's like I have trouble looking at women now because I've had six girlfriends cheat on me and it sounds like not a lot, but still.

1:32:45 Drew What do you mean cheat?

1:32:47 Caller Like, I've had out of all my girlfriends, every single one of them has left me for another guy.

1:32:54 Drew Yeah, that's usually what people do after they leave a relationship.

1:32:56 Adam Hold on. I'm shocked, by the way.

1:32:58 Drew Yeah.

1:32:58 Adam JD, man. You get hold of JD, you hang on him with both hands. What are these chicks thinking?

1:33:04 Drew Yeah, it sounds like they're cheating. It sounds like they end the relationship and they leave for another guy.

1:33:08 Adam Yeah, that's not cheating. That's not being so into you.

1:33:11 Caller Yeah, okay.

1:33:12 Adam All right.

1:33:13 Caller No, I've actually caught one of them. It was like in bed with one of them, so it was like.

1:33:21 Drew Fifteen-year-old in bed?

1:33:23 Caller Yeah.

1:33:24 Caller Actually, she was 14, he was 15.

1:33:26 Adam All right. Well, maybe your personality is not so great, JD. Do you ever think about that?

1:33:32 Caller Yeah, a lot.

1:33:33 Adam All right. You give it some more consideration because you could be driving chicks away. Okay. It sounds like a delight. I don't know why the young ladies weren't interested in it.

1:33:43 Drew There's a ton missing from that whole discussion.

1:33:45 Adam Whatever. Don't get anyone pregnant. Yeah. Whatever you're doing, stop it.

1:33:48 Drew Slow down. Yeah.

1:33:49 Adam Just stop it.

1:33:49 Drew Yeah.

1:33:50 Adam Okay. If you keep getting the same result, no matter what it is.

1:33:53 Drew You.

1:33:53 Adam Look in the mirror. That's all you got to know. Everybody, keep getting fired, keep getting Fs, keep getting dumped, keep getting cheated on. Look in the mirror. There's where your answer will lie. Not scrawled in lipstick, just whatever is looking back at you. Okay. Quick break. We'll be right back.

1:34:10 Guest All right, guys, here's the deal. You're looking to hook up, sick of wasting time with the wrong person?

1:34:15 Caller One call's all you need to make.

1:34:17 Caller Call the Dateline.

1:34:18 Caller 877-889-DATE.

1:34:20 Caller Call the Dateline.

1:34:55 Adam Hot Thorn Heights, KCJT. Thanks very much for coming by.

1:35:00 Guest You're welcome. Thanks.

1:35:00 Adam Thanks, boys, on Jimmy Kimmel Live tonight. And watch Vivica A. Fox. We will take a little extendo break. Andy Milonakis, the possibly young Andy Milonakis in here tonight.

1:35:14 Drew The only one you'd expect.

1:35:16 Adam And until next time, it's Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying Mahalo.

1:35:21 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Aningold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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