Episode 1000717390051

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1:17 Voiceover With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew. Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. Greg Graffin is here tonight from Bad Religion.

1:35 Bad Religion Thank you all. Thank you very much.

1:37 Adam Always good to see Greg. Smartest man in show business or in rock and roll.

1:41 Drew Certainly in music.

1:42 Adam Yes.

1:43 Bad Religion You guys are too kind.

1:44 Adam No, but I was...

1:46 Bad Religion I'm not even... It's probably not even true.

1:48 Adam No, I know it's not because Dexter from the offspring just got his Ph.D.

1:52 Bad Religion Oh, he's a smart MF, right?

1:54 Drew And he flies a jet.

1:55 Bad Religion Yeah.

1:55 He's rich.

1:57 Bad Religion Way rich.

1:57 Adam Oh my God. What's he doing?

2:00 Bad Religion Flying around to one concert a year.

2:03 Adam I know. But here's... What's his Ph.D.

2:06 Drew It's like math or something?

2:08 Adam No, I thought it was chemistry or something crazy. Molecular biology or something like that. He called once to take me up in his jet.

2:16 Drew Oh, that's great.

2:17 Adam Yeah. I'm excited about it. I was trying to think of... I'm a fan of Bad Religion who is going to be playing at the House of Blues this Wednesday... Is it Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday? Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Wednesday, Thursday of this week already sold out. So...

2:33 Drew That's the one in Orange County. The one in LA.

2:35 Adam The one in LA. They've sold out the ones in San Diego and Orange County and all that stuff. But to me, it's one of those things like... And I don't know how it works, but maybe you own a label, you've been in the business for 25 years now, just about. How does it work? Like see, when I see Offspring or when I think about the Offspring and I think about Bad Religion, I think, well, both good bands, both good live bands, both bands, you know, both have sold records. Bad Religion's been around 13, 14 more years or something like that.

3:09 Drew Or more, right?

3:10 Adam Well...

3:10 Drew No, whatever, whatever.

3:11 Bad Religion I would say, you know, since 19 holds one.

3:14 Adam Yeah, but Offspring's been around since the very early 90s, probably 92, 93, something like that. They were...

3:20 Drew Yeah, you're right.

3:20 Adam Keeping them separated in like 94.

3:23 Drew Yes, you're right.

3:23 Adam All right, so see, Drew, that's how old you are.

3:25 Drew Yeah, I know.

3:26 Adam That's a new song. That song is over 10 years old. That seems like a new, that's one of your, that's your newest song, right?

3:33 Drew Just got to it when he's talking about it.

3:34 Adam Just got that new song smell to it. So the point is, is to me, I figure, well, Bad Religion has been around a little bit longer. Offspring may have sold a couple more records in the last 10 years. I have their income at about the same. But Dexter flew Wonder Woman's jet in here. And Greg came in and his dad's Impala.

3:56 Bad Religion How did you know that? It's true. It's a rented Impala, actually.

3:59 Adam Right, his dad rented it, let him borrow it.

4:01 Bad Religion For the weekend.

4:02 Adam How do you, do they?

4:04 Bad Religion How does that work?

4:05 Adam Yeah, how does it work? How does it work? Am I missing? What am I missing?

4:08 Bad Religion Well, you know, some bands are more successful at selling records and that's really where...

4:13 Adam Does Offspring make a ton of money because they sell worldwide or they don't have much more here?

4:19 Drew Bad Religion must sell a ton of records.

4:21 Bad Religion Well, we don't sell a ton, but we do all right. And the certainly you can't judge from the live audience all the time either, because some bands have multi-platinum success with their album. And a couple of years later, they can't even fill the whisky. But this fact that they had such success with their multi-platinum album makes them pretty well off. They can afford a Porsche.

4:47 Adam I'm always amazed. And I also think they are... And there's this way... There's this in every sort of branch of anything creative, whether it's movies or songs or writing or anything, there's the people you've heard of, the people you respect, and then there's people who have made a lot more money who you don't really like. I'm sure Billy Ray...

5:08 Drew Or maybe never heard of.

5:09 Adam Billy Ray Cyrus has made a ton more money than Offspring and Bad Religion put together. And yes, then there's Higuari's, which sold the 10 billion records in South America, and you don't know any of their songs. So there's one of those... There's that element too. And I'm always surprised. To me, it's always country singers and NASCAR guys when I'm blown away, when I see their houses. Like, here's the Coypond. Well, I put a bowling alley in the Coypond, and I'm like, what? Who is this guy? I've never heard of him. Yeah. I married Renee Zellweger and her sister. And I'm like, I don't know who this guy is. Is it true?

5:45 Drew Am I right? Yes.

5:46 Adam That in...

5:47 Drew I sort of... With me, it's like...

5:49 Adam You don't know anybody else. Yeah. That in international Latin superstars. Those are the guys too. I've never seen the guy. I don't like the guy. I don't think he's that good looking. And everyone goes nuts.

5:59 Bad Religion Well, everyone who hears your show thinks you guys are richer than everyone because you know, you've... Well, Adam, literally.

6:05 Adam I'm literally a millionaire, Greg.

6:07 Bad Religion Literally.

6:08 Adam I mean, literally. People find it obnoxious when I say that. But I'm, you know, so many people say I'm a millionaire, but they're speaking sort of metaphorically, like I'm rich in life. Literally. No, I'm literally. No, Drew, seriously. Literally a millionaire. Literally. Literally. Okay?

6:23 Drew I literally crap myself the first time you said that.

6:25 Adam Literally. I literally jumped out of my skin when I first made my first millionaire. Literally jumped out. Literally. I was a... We hate when people overuse literally.

6:36 Bad Religion Or screw the word literally.

6:37 Drew You know the mad TV that did a whole thing on that I saw the other day?

6:39 Bad Religion Oh, really?

6:40 Drew A whole skit.

6:40 Adam Literally?

6:41 Drew Yes, I'm literally.

6:42 Adam I was thinking about words...

6:43 Drew I think they listen to the show and they just take notes on what you're doing. And just, yep, let's make a skit. Here we go.

6:47 Adam Well, maybe they're taking notes on what you're doing.

6:50 Drew No, no.

6:50 Adam No, you're right.

6:51 Drew Because then they're just boring skits.

6:52 Adam I want to hear you say that. But I was thinking earlier tonight, there were words I'm done with. I could do without. Like a fat ass full of literally. People are misusing it. But words that have fallen by the wayside, like to see make a comeback. Number one on my list, Vittles. I'd like Vittles to make a nice comeback, bring back Vittles.

7:11 Bad Religion Yeah, I like that.

7:11 Adam You know what I mean?

7:12 Drew Mom's cooking up some Vittles.

7:14 Adam Yeah. Hey, woman, should you make me some Vittles? You know, because Vittles leads into woman instead of sweetie, you know, and that kind of stuff.

7:20 Drew I think it peaked in the Beverly Hillbillies.

7:22 Adam Yeah, but it was being sort of used as, it was antiquated back then. It was a joke. We could seriously bring Vittles back.

7:28 Drew We literally want it back.

7:29 Adam Literally like to bring Vittles back, literally.

7:32 Bad Religion That's a good one.

7:33 Adam Vittles is good. And you know, here's the thing too. Vittles, you can't get like an avocado wrap.

7:39 Bad Religion That's not Vittles.

7:40 Drew No, no, it's gotta be a stew.

7:42 Adam Something's gotta be stew. Yeah, something you may have killed a little earlier in the day.

7:46 Drew Yeah, just throwing in the stew.

7:47 Adam Yeah, I'm just saying, I'd like to see Vittles make a nice, nice comeback. This country will be back on its feet when Vittles comes back.

7:54 Drew I think you're right.

7:55 Adam And...

7:56 Drew Speaking of, have you seen the Into the West series?

7:59 Bad Religion Haven't watched it.

7:59 Drew I watched a little bit. It's quite interesting.

8:01 Adam Who's doing it?

8:02 Drew It's a Spielberg thing. It's like a 90-part series.

8:04 Adam Yeah.

8:05 Drew Very interesting.

8:05 Yeah.

8:06 Adam No, I didn't see it.

8:07 It's worth seeing.

8:08 Adam Let's talk Bad Religion. Let's give Bad Religion a plug. Well, wait a minute. This CD, how old is this CD?

8:17 Bad Religion I don't know. You tell me.

8:18 Adam Empire Strikes First.

8:19 Bad Religion Well... What does it say on the back there? It says 2004.

8:23 Adam Yeah, we've had you. We've been plugging this CD before. We're going to hear something else. A great song off it called Los Angeles is Burning and a couple of few. And again, what else do you need to plug?

8:36 Drew Adam, you got a plug?

8:37 Bad Religion Let's see. Yeah, you got more plugging to do than me. Bad Religion is doing these shows out here, but since they're sold out, there's no reason to plug them. Right. We also have a live DVD. That should be a lot of fun. That's coming out in September. Nice.

8:52 Adam How does one get that?

8:54 Bad Religion We had a show last time we were on the show. I think it was at the end of our tour for this album. We had a show at the Palladium two nights.

9:03 Drew Did you get it online or did you just get it at a record store?

9:06 Bad Religion No. That's going to be released. The DVD you're talking about? No, it'll be widely available. Okay. Yeah. We just got two shows filmed with the 10 camera shoot. It was a big production. Wow. It's taken us this long to edit the thing. Wow.

9:23 Adam How much of that work did you do on it?

9:25 Bad Religion About 1% of the comments. I gave my 2 cents, in other words. Literally.

9:32 Adam But when you saw the editing, was it good? Was it how you wanted it?

9:37 Bad Religion At first, it needed some tweaks, but it looks magnificent now. I don't even like live music DVDs, but I actually enjoyed watching it.

9:48 Adam A 10 camera shoot.

9:50 Bad Religion That's a big deal. It looks great. And the audio is going to be amazing too.

9:54 Adam Let's take a call and then I'll do this direct thing, Drew. Where are we going? Down here?

9:58 Drew Yep.

10:00 Adam Brandon.

10:01 Yes.

10:02 Adam What's up?

10:03 Hey guys.

10:04 Drew Hey there.

10:04 Hey.

10:06 Well, my situation is I'm married. I've been married for about eight years. The problem I'm having is I had an affair and I know how much Dr. Drew despises of that. But I did.

10:24 Adam Well, he's got to make a big deal out of it because his wife listens.

10:27 I know. I know.

10:30 Adam I've got two kids. Go ahead.

10:33 Oh, I've got two kids.

10:35 The girl that I was seeing, it was pretty much a one-night stand that lasted, I don't know, three nights, that's it. She was also married. She, one morning, she tells me, oh, I told my husband about us. That afternoon, he shot himself.

10:54 Drew Oh, my God.

10:55 Adam Hold on. But in the head?

10:58 No, go ahead.

10:59 Adam What did he do? He's dead?

11:01 Yes.

11:02 Adam Sometimes people shoot themselves.

11:03 I don't know, he's dying, you know?

11:05 Adam So, but I'm assuming that's what you meant. And that's horrific.

11:11 Drew How did she react to that?

11:13 Well, I met her, I'm in the military, and I met her in school.

11:18 Drew No, no, no. Well, how did she react to his doing that? I wonder what kind of person this is.

11:24 At first, she was really emotional. I think she blames herself for telling him. And, but sometimes I think she's glad that he's out of her life.

11:40 Drew Yes. Yeah. That's kind of what I get from this. This is a, this is a evil person, witchy woman.

11:45 Adam Her. Yeah. Witchy. You guys ought to cover witchy woman or devil woman or witchy devil woman from New Orleans. But here's the thing. Gypsy. Gypsy devil, witchy woman. You gotta bring that back or life on the road. That'd be good too. But here's the thing. This guy, the guys who shoot them, guys who shoot themselves, you think they're normally violent people?

12:09 Drew Yeah.

12:10 Adam I seem to think that too. I think they end up sort of taking themselves out the way they may have taken other people out.

12:15 Drew Yes. I'm sure he was no, walking the park.

12:18 Adam All right.

12:19 Drew And by the way, you know how women are with those affairs. That's why she had the affair. That's why she told them.

12:23 Adam She wanted to pay him back. She made sure that he knew all the lurid details. So she told him and he probably went a little farther than she wanted, although there's a part of her that, probably okay with it on some level. Was he abusive or anything like that?

12:42 I think so.

12:43 Drew Yeah, I mean, he must have been. Let's assume yes. All right, so what can we do with Brandon? What's your question for us?

12:48 Well, I'm, it's been about two months and I just, some nights I just, sometimes I feel really responsible. I know I shouldn't.

12:58 Adam Yeah, did your wife ever find out?

13:01 Yeah, I told her pretty much right after it happened. And she shot Brandon.

13:07 Bad Religion Is she still with us?

13:08 Adam Yeah, how'd she take it?

13:12 Not good at first, but we're still together. We've been together for eight years and we've got two kids, a house and everything.

13:20 Adam You know, if I ever get busted cheating, hold on a second, Brandon, I am going to go the husband of the other partner killed themself because it's going to deflect a little anger. You know what I mean? Like, you go, first, your wife will be just in a fit of rage trying to kill you. And then you're like, oh, my God, I'm stricken with grief and remorse. This guy killed himself. I can't live without. There might be a part of her that'll go like, oh, sweetie, it's not your fault. You know what I mean? You could turn it on a real quick.

13:47 Drew It also gives you a chance. That bitch, right?

13:49 Adam Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of good. I'm going to go one of my hip pocket in case there's trouble. And she probably has no real way of verifying it anyway, you know? And it sounds so outlandish, you wouldn't make it up. All right, so Brandon.

14:03 Drew So are you depressed now? Is that what's happening?

14:05 Well, sometimes I think I am. I've been actually, my wife's sister has some antidepressant medicine. I don't remember what it's called, but sometimes I'll sneak some from her.

14:20 Adam Brandon.

14:20 Drew Not a great plan, Brandon.

14:21 Adam Brandon, you have two kids, right?

14:24 Caller Yeah.

14:24 Adam You have to get it together on their behalf.

14:27 Caller Right.

14:28 Adam You know what I mean? You just, if you're depressed, you have to treat it like it's psoriasis or something.

14:34 Drew Like a medical problem.

14:34 Adam You just go take care of it on behalf of your children. Right. It's almost self-indulgent for you to be depressed at this stage when you're father, because you're better having a dad who's an alcoholic and confined to a wheelchair than a depressed dad or mom.

14:50 Drew Well, that's because you had that and you're feeling so vividly. But here's the thing.

14:55 Adam I really do. Drew, then answer me. Would you? Your dad in a wheelchair, would you care?

15:01 Drew No, that would not make a big deal at all.

15:02 Adam What about if your dad was an alcoholic or depressed?

15:08 Drew Strengths and weaknesses to both.

15:10 Adam Well, alcoholic doesn't necessarily mean he gets loaded in molestia, which just means he's out of it at night. You know what I mean? Depressed is like just living with a pot of oatmeal.

15:20 Drew Yeah, yeah. It's scary for a kid.

15:23 Adam They just said blah.

15:23 Drew Well, Brandon, here's the deal. You can either get it together or you cannot. And if you can get it together, do so. Start getting some structure in your day, start exercising. As Adam would say, listen to classical music, start taking care of yourself.

15:36 Adam I always say bad religion or classical music.

15:38 Drew Stop punishing yourself.

15:41 Adam Bad religion.

15:41 Drew Bad religion or classical music.

15:42 Adam Or classical.

15:43 Drew You made a mistake, it was a horrific thing. This is why people shouldn't get married when they're 19. You're hanging in on behalf of your kids. That's great. Now let's get it together. If you cannot get it together, that's a medical problem. And you need to go to your health services there in the base, wherever you are, and treat it like Adam said, like any other medical condition. But get it together. I think you can. Let's go ahead. Let's go ahead.

16:05 Adam Let's keep moving here. Let's move forward.

16:06 Drew Let's go. Let's go.

16:07 Adam No, I was thinking about earlier today.

16:09 Let's go.

16:10 Drew By the way, traffic tonight? What the hell was that?

16:12 Adam You know what? Well, I didn't hit any traffic tonight. You know, I was thinking about this. I don't know why we're talking about vittles, words we need to bring back, words that can go. Here's a, you know how the guy I hate most is the guy who condescendingly explains that there are no straight lines in nature. That guy, the architect guy, explains there's no, there's no straight lines in nature. I hate that guy. The guy I now hate more is the dog expert who starts off by saying, you know, dogs are pack animals. And I just want to slug the guy in the face. Like, you get to be an expert based on farting that out twice a week. That's the guy you see on Oprah who whispers to the schnauzer. They are, you know, they are pack, shut up. You realize how little it takes to be an expert and how fast you can get on Oprah and what it really just takes to do that? Do you know there's a guy who whispers to dogs and he gets to sit next to her and he gets to tell an enthralled audience about how they're pack animals and how, it's not your job to be your dog's best friend.

17:14 Drew It's your job. Your dog looks at you.

17:16 Adam You see, there's pecking orders to alpha and so on.

17:19 Drew When do we decide that sort of respect?

17:20 Adam It's like, really, really, really?

17:22 Drew Sick platitudes are the most, so great consumables.

17:25 Adam I don't know. No one says anything when people fart out these platitudes. And if I hear, I believe everything happens for a reason. One more time, just gonna like almost go sick with the noon chucks on whoever's around me.

17:39 Drew No one ever goes, Adam, you need to choose to get over this. You need to choose to feel better.

17:44 Adam It's just, it's driving me berserk. All right, no straight lines in nature, literally.

17:49 Drew Literally.

17:50 Adam Literally, except for some of the things that seem to be straight in nature.

17:54 Drew Well, I can give you some fiddles.

17:56 Adam Sarah? Sarah?

17:59 Drew Hello?

17:59 Adam Oh wait, did I get rid of this? Did we get rid of that? Yeah?

18:02 Drew Sarah's up.

18:03 Adam Sarah, all right, let's take a question for Greg. Why not?

18:07 Drew No, it's fine.

18:07 Adam Russ?

18:08 Hey.

18:09 Adam What's happening?

18:10 Hey, Adam, it's great to talk to you guys.

18:13 Adam Great to talk to you, Russ.

18:15 Oh man, I'm a huge fan of all of you. Hey, I want to say, I think today is producer Ann's birthday.

18:21 Drew Oh, today?

18:23 I think so. I don't know.

18:25 Drew Today?

18:25 I don't know who could check there, but happy birthday to her, if it is.

18:28 Drew Tomorrow's Ann's birthday.

18:29 Tomorrow? Tomorrow.

18:31 Well, happy birthday.

18:34 Drew She will kick our butts. Yeah. Come on, man.

18:36 Adam Let's get together. I'm gonna make more than a mental note.

18:38 Drew Get together here.

18:39 Adam Actually, I'm gonna make a mental note to make a physical note.

18:41 Drew You need to call me tomorrow. Let's get it going here. Let's get it together.

18:44 Yeah.

18:46 Adam Yeah, okay. I'll just write B day. I'll know what that means.

18:49 Anyway, you guys, yeah, sorry if I'm kind of nervous. I've been, I've been, I listen to you guys all the time. Yeah. First time caller. Anyway, I want to talk to Greg. Greg, you still there?

19:06 Bad Religion Yeah, I'm here. How's it going?

19:07 Hey. Good, man. And congratulations to you on your thesis. You guys are all, all three of you in there are amazingly smart people.

19:17 Bad Religion Thank you very much.

19:19 Adam Thank you. I have known that-

19:20 Bad Religion I'm not board certified and I've never been on, I'd never had my own show on network television, but-

19:27 Adam Well, I'm literally a millionaire and I know that dogs are pack animals under straight lines in nature.

19:33 Drew And of course.

19:35 Adam Yeah.

19:36 Drew Everything happens for a reason.

19:36 Adam Everything happens for a reason. I believe that. I do believe that everything happens for a reason.

19:41 Bad Religion No, you're supposed to say, you know, after they say that.

19:43 Adam You know.

19:43 Bad Religion Everything happens for a reason, you know.

19:46 Yeah, but still.

19:47 Adam Yeah, but still.

19:48 Go ahead, Russ.

19:50 Greg, I wanted to ask you if, you know, Bad Religion's been going, what, 25 years or so?

19:55 Bad Religion Oh, at least. I lose track.

19:59 I was just wondering how the- if it gets any easier to write albums after that many, because I was thinking like everything, pretty much everything from, you know, from the gray race on has been sort of like, you know, there'll be two or three, two or three sort of radio hits. And then, you know, songs about, you know, current issues and sort of, sort of timeless government issues. Like I've been listening to Drunk Sincerity, and it just, it applies, it applies so much now, you know, about how...

20:37 Adam All right, I'm cutting him off. He's filibustering.

20:40 Bad Religion I think his question was, your question was, you know, does it get easier to write albums? And the answer is emphatically no. It gets much more difficult. Whenever you put out something great, people are gonna expect the next one to be even greater. And I mean, if you wanna milk it at the end of your career, of course, it's very easy to put out crappy records and you'll see a slow and steady decline in your popularity. But we take our writing very seriously. And if we think we've made a benchmark album, the goal on the next one is to outdo it. And that's why it takes us a couple of years to put out another record.

21:21 Adam There you go, Russ. We will, I gotta do this Durex thing. Also, I think we should hear a song from Bad Religion. I'll do this Durex thing real quick and, Chris, you can cue up a little Bad Religion for us, would you please? So here's what's going on tonight. One lucky person will win a Durex Party Pack. What is a Durex Party Pack, you ask Drew?

21:41 Drew What is a Durex Party Pack?

21:43 Adam It includes-

21:44 Bad Religion Is that Durex, the condom company?

21:46 Adam Yes. Yes. They make a fantastic condom. It is amazing, Drew.

21:52 Drew Yeah.

21:53 Adam They make a wonderful condom.

21:54 Drew Do tell.

21:55 Adam Yeah. Well, they're kid tested and mother approved. That's what I have to say about Durex. Party Pack includes CDs, a poker set, money, and of course some Durex condom.

22:07 Bad Religion Did you say a poke her set?

22:10 Adam Poke her set and each night of this week, I will decide who the best call of the night is, and that person will win one of these party packs. So far, slim pickings. That's what I have to say to that. Winner's got to be 18 years exactly. That's the twist. Today has to be their 18th birthday.

22:30 Drew At the moment you-

22:31 Adam Yeah, you thought I was going to say or older, but no, you got to be spot on 18, not an hour older. No, 18 or older is going to do it, and of course brought to you by Durex, there's sex, and then there's Durex. All right.

22:43 Drew And then there's Bad Religion.

22:44 Adam And then there's Bad Religion. And here's a little ditty called Los Angeles is Burning. Yeah, Bad Religion, everybody. Greg's in the studio tonight. Jay has joined us and him in the studio tonight. And we will, it's all right, we're going to take a quick break, and we'll come back, talk to, who do you want to talk to?

26:23 Drew We have two Sarahs.

26:24 Adam Mass amounts of nutmeg.

26:25 Drew The other Sarah.

26:26 Adam The other Sarah is a brother who molested her as a kid, wants to reconnect.

26:32 Bad Religion I saw that today, Andre.

26:35 Adam Yeah.

26:36 Bad Religion That's a fake, would be us.

26:37 Adam You gotta decide to reconnect before you reconnect. It's impossible to reconnect if you don't want to, you don't have to make a decision.

26:43 Drew Decision to reconnect. You got to want to do it, and you got to want to handle it.

26:45 Adam Because there's no straight lines in nature, and dogs are pack animals. We'll take a quick break, be right back after this. Keep things up with new Durex warming condoms. There's sex, and then there's Durex. Wow. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. We got Regan here and Jay in here from Bad Religion.

27:40 Bad Religion Thanks, everybody. The live audience you got here. They're awesome.

27:44 Bad Religion Fabulous.

27:45 Adam Yeah. And quiet as church mice when I'm talking.

27:49 Bad Religion Yeah, it's amazing.

27:49 Adam When Bad Religion is announced, a lot of applause. The Donnas are going to be in here on Wednesday, and then the Foo Fighters in here on Thursday. So, good bands and plenty coming up here on Loveline. The Donnas, I remember liking. I haven't seen them in quite some time. Maybe a little over a year? No?

28:08 Drew I don't think it was that long.

28:09 Adam Really? Maybe I'm mixing them up with L7.

28:12 Drew No, you like L7 a long time.

28:14 Adam Well, L7 is a long time, but the Donnas are cool checks. Yeah.

28:18 Bad Religion East coasters.

28:18 Adam Yeah.

28:19 Drew I know it was when we did that signing, that calendar signing.

28:23 Adam Oh, that was not long ago. Yeah. All right. Let's keep on keeping on and talk to Sarah, who has a question for Drew about tripping on nutmeg. Sarah?

28:37 Hello? Hello?

28:39 Adam What's up?

28:40 Well, first I'll say Adam Corolla.

28:43 Adam Oh, you hold on. You guys are gonna like this. Summer's heating up, right? Right. Okay. What I'm trying to do is get that Marco Polo pool game.

28:53 Drew Okay.

28:53 Adam You got a pool? I got a pool, yeah.

28:55 Drew You're literally a millionaire.

28:56 Adam I'm literally a millionaire.

28:57 Bad Religion Really?

28:58 Adam Let me tell you.

28:59 Drew You got a bunch of houses with pools.

29:01 Adam They're homes.

29:02 Drew Homes with pools.

29:02 Bad Religion Why didn't you send your jet to come and get me?

29:04 Adam I was gonna send Dexter to pick me up.

29:07 Bad Religion Mine ran out of fuel.

29:08 Adam He said the runways aren't long enough in Canada. They only handle prop planes.

29:12 Bad Religion They're all water planes, actually. Yeah.

29:15 Bad Religion But now you're in Southern California. They're landing on the freeways.

29:19 Drew Right by my house.

29:19 Adam Right by Drew's house.

29:20 Drew Right by my house.

29:21 Bad Religion Hold on.

29:21 Adam We have some important business to get to.

29:23 Bad Religion Back to the pool.

29:24 Adam I want the game Marco Polo. I don't want to change the game. I want to change the name. Adam.

29:30 Bad Religion Corolla.

29:31 Adam Adam.

29:32 Bad Religion Corolla.

29:32 Adam You know what I'm saying? Marco Polo. The guy's been dead for 900 years.

29:37 Bad Religion This would be very modern incarnation.

29:39 Adam I don't think kids know who Marco Polo is.

29:42 Drew I sat down and watched the whole history show. I don't think on him about two days ago. Just because of all this conversation we had.

29:47 Adam Well, and no saint. I'm sure he went over to China. He brought paprika back. Big whoop.

29:55 Bad Religion No, but he made a great shirt.

29:57 Adam Oh, he made a polo shirt. The inventor of the polo shirt. The other thing I was thinking about too is we already have water polo. Do we need two polo pools?

30:05 Bad Religion You're also kind of missing the beauty of the two syllable thing. Marco and Polo sound nice answering one.

30:13 Drew Adam Corolla.

30:14 Bad Religion I like that. I know it's sing song enough.

30:17 Adam No, thank you, Jay.

30:18 Bad Religion I'm going to back you, Adam Corolla.

30:20 Adam Thank you, Jay.

30:20 Bad Religion I'm a traditionalist.

30:21 Adam Well, Greg, though, you know what? It's okay that you disagree and I want to address your concerns, if I could.

30:28 Bad Religion I'd love you to.

30:29 Bad Religion It's like he's going to lobby himself right now.

30:31 Drew Marco Polo's Kubla Khan's henchman, you see? Venetian henchman to Kubla Khan.

30:37 Adam Yeah.

30:37 Drew Bad guy, basically.

30:38 Adam And most of the stuff they think was fabricated. Plus talk about nepotism, his dad was an explorer.

30:44 Drew His dad took him out to China.

30:46 Adam That's got to be weird when you're like born in the 13 somethings and it's like, what's your dad do? Explore! What's your dad do? Conquer! Because now your dad's like a tax attorney or something, but back then you actually had dad's work, like explore.

31:02 Bad Religion Henchman.

31:03 Adam He's a viking? What's your dad do? Peasant? Oh, man, my dad's a serf. Oh, bummer. But so not a great guy, but let me let me just say this. I'll do that thing. Horrible politicians. Greg, I'll use your name a lot. Greg, if I could just dress it for sake of your eyes, blink those eyes a lot, Greg. Let me dress your concerns because I share your your concerns as well. That's everything to sharing pretending like you care about what he care about.

31:29 Bad Religion You're my bro.

31:29 Adam So, Greg, I agree that Marco Polo has a little better flow. It's also because you've been using it since your, you know, grade school. And it's something that's sort of burned in your psyche. You, the smell of barbecue and good times.

31:44 Bad Religion True.

31:45 Adam Some of your family was still alive at the time. A lot of splashing about. I would contend that if Adam Corolla was suggested to you so early on, Greg, do you hear him say, Greg, that you would enjoy it just as much and probably fight for it now. So, open your mind. You remember, dogs pack animals and there's no straight lines in nature, literally. No straight lines. Adam Corolla.

32:07 Thank you.

32:09 Bad Religion What happens to the fish out of water part? That stays the same.

32:11 Adam That, no.

32:12 Drew That's because Adam's masturbating. Adam's masturbating in the jacuzzi.

32:15 Adam Yeah, it's a little bumpy, but I think it's still good.

32:18 Drew It sticks.

32:19 Adam Sarah?

32:19 Drew Holds up the tongue pretty nice.

32:22 Hello?

32:22 Adam Gives the kid more time to jump back in the pool.

32:26 Bad Religion Sarah?

32:27 Yeah.

32:29 Drew What's up?

32:30 Bad Religion Yeah.

32:32 I've had a friend who was actually escorted by the police to the hospital twice for psychotic episodes.

32:40 Drew Yeah.

32:40 And she claims she has since been diagnosed with schizophrenia and being bipolar. And she claims that the episodes were actually triggered because she was taking a lot of nutmeg recreationally.

32:54 Drew Did the people that were diagnosing her know about that?

32:58 I doubt it.

32:59 Drew Because drug addiction can masquerade as essentially any other psychiatric syndrome. Yeah. And nutmeg can cause hallucinatory psychotic reactions.

33:09 Adam Super ultra feather lightweights could catch half a buzz off a metric ton of that stuff.

33:15 Drew Morning glory seeds, gypsum weed, and nutmeg.

33:18 Bad Religion You know what's happening right now at Safeway.

33:20 Drew Yeah.

33:21 Bad Religion But the lineup is just getting ridiculous.

33:23 Drew But these things are really they're very difficult to control and they're thought to be very dangerous.

33:27 Bad Religion Nutmeg? Really?

33:28 Drew Yeah.

33:29 Bad Religion Smoke it?

33:31 Drew I think they just ingest. I can't.

33:33 Bad Religion Just eat it? Just eat nutmeg?

33:35 Drew Large.

33:37 Bad Religion Right out of the bag.

33:38 Bad Religion You have to mix it with contact. The cold.

33:40 Bad Religion There you go. Now you're getting crazy.

33:42 Adam It's a nutto trip and they call it. Do, by the way, I'm now dying for some eggnog. Yeah, me too. A little buttered brandy in there and some of that fresh ground nutmeg on top. That is awesome.

33:57 Bad Religion A little chai latte with some cinnamon and nutmeg on top.

34:00 Drew I'll look it up on the web to see what the, I think it's an anticholinergic delirium they get into if I remember correctly.

34:05 Bad Religion Allergic delirium?

34:06 Drew Anticholinergic.

34:07 Bad Religion Oh.

34:07 Adam All right. Let's put it this way. Like someone like Fletch from...

34:13 Bad Religion Wait, I'm laughing already.

34:15 Drew You need a metric ton of nutmeg.

34:16 Adam Yeah. How much nut? You know, guys, real guys who do drugs and drink can't catch a buzz off nutmeg. This is for kids that are already sort of bordering on psychotic, right?

34:26 Drew Possibly.

34:26 Bad Religion Just bring some in.

34:27 Adam All right. Sarah, while sort of scientifically possible, it's a much more likely chance that your friend is just out of it or psychotic.

34:38 Drew And blaming that. And blaming that.

34:40 While I'm worrying, do you think she'll have an episode without it then? Like in the future?

34:45 Adam Yes.

34:45 Bad Religion Most likely, right?

34:46 Drew Yeah, because our hypothesis is that she has a psychiatric problem. It's not just the nutmeg.

34:51 Okay. All right. So I should be worried that it'll happen again.

34:55 Drew Yes, you should be.

34:56 Okay.

34:58 Drew But she's undoubtedly on medication now.

35:00 Well, she won't take her medication. She won't take anything.

35:03 Drew All right. That's what happens.

35:04 Adam All right. Drew.

35:05 Drew She only takes the natural product. The nutmeg.

35:10 Adam She can get on a maintenance program with Mrs. Dash. Actually, another seizing compound that is safe and effective.

35:17 Bad Religion Golden seal.

35:18 Adam Yeah.

35:18 Drew Nice.

35:19 Adam Drew, you should know about this.

35:20 Drew What?

35:21 Adam Nutmeg.

35:22 Drew Yeah, I've heard of it.

35:23 Bad Religion They're making a patch. I heard about it.

35:25 Drew Nutmeg, nice.

35:28 Yes.

35:29 Adam You're 28.

35:30 Caller Yes, I am.

35:31 Adam What's up?

35:32 Caller Well, first thing I got to say is Adam Corolla.

35:37 Bad Religion Adam's masturbating in the jacuzzi.

35:39 Adam Yeah, it's going to be awesome. What a suit. It's heating up.

35:45 Caller I have this problem in where I get, when I get a blowjob, I, it's like, when I come, I come urine instead of a jaculet.

35:58 Drew No, it's not urine.

35:59 Adam It's just watery.

36:00 Drew It's just watery.

36:01 Adam You're not eating enough flour.

36:02 Drew Well, not like that.

36:04 Adam I don't mean fake goods. I mean flour.

36:07 Drew It's powdery pure form.

36:08 Adam It's powdered form. Yeah. A couple of flours.

36:10 Drew You can go with a pack and like a cannon too.

36:11 Adam Well, I go in both.

36:12 Drew Yeah. Here's the deal. It's, that's the only time you ever see what you're producing. I mean, when you're having sex with somebody, you don't actually see what you produce, right? So it may be the same then too.

36:24 Caller No, this is what my girlfriend tells me. Other, I mean, I can tell when I masturbate, you know, that it's not the same stuff.

36:33 Drew No, you can't. It's mixed in with saliva and other things. You can't tell.

36:38 Adam Well, how could it be something different?

36:41 Bad Religion I mean, unless he's doing it on purpose? Is that possible?

36:45 Drew Urinating?

36:46 Caller No, it's not possible that I'm doing it on purpose.

36:49 Drew No, it's just watery.

36:51 Bad Religion Seminal fluid, right?

36:52 Drew Yes, and that's normal. It's fine, Benjamin, relax.

36:55 Adam You have the sensation of an orgasm, right?

36:57 Bad Religion Eat some more almonds.

37:00 Caller I do have the sensation of an orgasm.

37:02 Drew Right, and that is seminal fluid, that is ejaculate, and that's watery for some guys. If you want to get thicker, delay ejaculation between episodes.

37:10 Adam Are you saying it's impossible for urine to come out when ejaculate should be coming out?

37:15 Drew It's virtually impossible.

37:16 Adam Well, you know, we've had a couple of these calls in the last few months.

37:20 Drew They were both watery semen.

37:23 Bad Religion Just open your eyes really wide.

37:28 Caller The thing that I thought might be maybe part of the trigger is because when I'm masturbating or when I'm having sex, because I'm not circumcised, when I'm getting a blow job, all the foreskins pull down and there's some nerves that are touched there that aren't normally...

37:45 Drew 28, 28 years old.

37:47 Adam All right. Hey, Benjamin, junior college or planning on junior college or dropped out of junior college, something to do with junior college? Yes?

37:57 Caller Actually, I graduated from a top-of-the-line four-year art school in three years.

38:04 Adam Wow. Wow. You sure it wasn't a two-year school in three years? No.

38:09 Bad Religion But you missed the key. The keyword in that phrase was art.

38:12 Adam Yes. All right.

38:13 Bad Religion Well, remember, there are no straight lines. Some art schools have good anatomy courses, and you might learn some.

38:18 Adam You can learn to draw the prepious.

38:20 Bad Religion Don't they have naked models? Yes, they do.

38:23 Bad Religion I'll say urinate for you.

38:24 Bad Religion There's naked models. I know there's naked models, and they'll urinate all over you.

38:27 Adam All right, Benjamin, it's not urine. You're cool. And it's got nothing to do with your foreskin.

38:32 Drew Yes, nothing whatsoever.

38:33 Adam All right. All right.

38:36 Bad Religion Eat nutmeg.

38:38 Adam Well, no, we learn on this show that people are sort of almost like primitive natives. And they think they control things. Well, my technique is done. So they do this sort of A and B equals G.

38:52 Drew Right, because they desire to know, like Aristotle says, and they start drawing conclusions that are just bizarre and random.

38:59 Bad Religion Why can't they just go on the Internet? I mean, that's information for everyone, isn't it?

39:03 Drew Yeah, but there's difference in information and wisdom. I understand. If you typed into, if you Googled, Watery semen.

39:10 Bad Religion Watery semen equals urine, you wouldn't get anything. Zero results. Sorry.

39:15 Drew Correct.

39:16 Adam Really?

39:17 Bad Religion Yeah, let's try it.

39:18 Adam Let's try it.

39:19 Bad Religion Get on there. Google it right now.

39:22 Adam Chris, Watery semen equals urine.

39:25 Caller Watery semen equals urine.

39:27 Caller All right.

39:29 Adam And then right now, right this second, see what that gets.

39:32 Drew Watery semen equals urine.

39:33 Adam So when we come back, we'll get the answer to that very important question.

39:36 Drew And I got to look at nutmeg too. So we're going to go out and see.

39:40 Bad Religion Watery semen equals nutmeg.

39:43 Adam You doing it? You're not doing that fake type thing you normally do, are you?

39:46 Drew He's not doing it. He's holding his hands over the buttons.

39:48 Bad Religion Chief Wiggum? Yeah, I'll get right on it.

39:51 Adam Take a little break. Bad Religion in studio tonight. We'll talk to, oh, we will get to the other Sarah with the brother molester and wants to reconnect. And let me just say hi there. Sarah?

40:03 Yes.

40:04 Adam 29?

40:06 Yes.

40:06 Adam Your brother molested you for how long and how old were you when you got started?

40:12 Basically before I can remember until I was 12 and I stopped him.

40:18 Adam Before? Oh, you stopped him?

40:21 Well, until he molested me until I was 12 years old and that was the last time.

40:26 Adam Oh, from whenever you could remember until 12.

40:30 Right.

40:31 Adam All right. And now he wants to reconcile.

40:35 Yes.

40:36 Adam All right. Hold on a second. Take a quick break.

40:39 Drew Chris, what do you got there?

40:40 Adam Shane, Greg here.

40:43 Drew He's got stuff.

40:43 Adam All right. He's got stuff.

40:44 Bad Religion He's got stuff.

40:46 Adam Everyone's got stuff. All that stuff after this. Loveline.

40:51 Okay. Wait.

40:52 Drew Wait.

40:53 My hair.

40:54 Drew My hair.

40:54 Adam We'll be right back. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Jay is here. Greg is here. Both from Bad Religion. I'm going to hear something else off the newish CD, Drew.

41:25 Drew So the nutmeg is less than a tablespoon, causes anticholinergic delirium, and that's a very uncomfortable and a wild psychotic state. I've seen a few of those. And then the watery semen is, as we said, the amount of time that semen is left in the seminal vesicles, or the amount of time it's actually outside the body. Makes it watery.

41:41 Adam Yeah, yeah, that's why I have to shake mine every once in a while. It's like salad dressing, you know, it'll separate. Yeah.

41:46 Yeah.

41:48 Adam I use it for dipping, I use it on dressing. I use it everywhere. And locale. Locale, because you're vomiting. Not because it's locale, just because you taste it and you just, aww, you just projectile vomit. Sarah?

42:01 Oh, yes. I think I want to...

42:03 Adam Oh, wait, I thought about Blowhard number three that I hate. I hate the no straight lines in Nature Guy, I hate the dog's pack. I like the person who points out that the real calories in salad is the dressing, all that creamy ranch. Oh, you mean the tasteless green matter that I'm stuffing into my mouth. That stuff, no calories in just the iceberg less. It's all that creamy, rich, fatty, buttery stuff that's on top, the taste of blue cheese.

42:27 Bad Religion Are you sure?

42:28 Adam Yeah, yeah, yeah. Turns out that's where all the calories are.

42:31 Bad Religion Who told you that?

42:31 Adam Shocking.

42:32 Bad Religion I can't believe that.

42:33 Drew Blowhard number four.

42:33 Adam Blowhard number four. Sarah?

42:36 Yes.

42:37 Adam So 29, your brother molested you until you're basically old enough to fight him off, which was age 12, and then you lived with him for another four, five, six years?

42:50 Until he graduated from high school.

42:53 Drew What's the situation now? Why does he need to be back in your life?

42:56 Well, I've avoided him as much as I can for the last ten years or more, and he's become sort of predatory, and he started about a year and a half ago, he started calling me repeatedly, so I told him just to F off, and he just contacted my boyfriend, saying that he doesn't understand why I won't talk to him, and he wants to reconnect.

43:23 Adam Well, you say predatory, like it's a bad thing, but I mean, is he trying to live, like, did he go to therapy, did he get sober and want to reconnect? Is he on step number six or seven or whatever, or is he actually just trying to put more pressure on you?

43:40 He's never faced, we've never discussed it, and he's kind of, I think he may be sort of mentally ill in a way, but he's gotten married, and he's trying to have children now, and he thinks that he's gotten it together, so he wants to reconnect with his sister, but he's never...

43:58 Drew How has he gotten it together? Has he joined a church or something? Is there something that's changed in his life?

44:03 He's just gotten a job, basically.

44:05 Drew All right, so you have no obligation to be around this guy.

44:09 Adam I just, here's all I'm trying to make sure, and this is Adam, and I do believe that everything happens for a reason, so you gotta factor that into the molestation. But your brother, I know you hate his guts, and you should hate his guts.

44:23 Drew Right, it's a good thing.

44:24 Adam It's a good thing, but on the other hand, if we spoke to him and he said, you know what, I got molested by my uncle, I acted out on my sister.

44:36 Drew I feel lawful about it.

44:37 Adam It's been haunting me for the last 15 years. I recently got sober.

44:41 Drew I got some therapy.

44:42 Adam And I'd like to reconnect with my sister. Would he possibly tell us, and I know everything that comes out of his mouth just sounds like a horrible lie because of what he did to you, but can you get outside of the horrible relationship you guys had for a second and objectively think is he actually trying to connect or is he just is this more BS?

45:02 Well, I think he's trying to make himself feel better, and it makes I'm absolutely paralyzed with fear.

45:08 Drew And the answer is no answer.

45:09 Adam No answer, and I don't expect you to say you can objectively tell whether he's reaching out, but it sounds to us like A, he's a bad guy, but B, he's attempting to do something. He doesn't want to borrow money.

45:21 Drew What's his motivation, to start having sex with you again?

45:24 No, I, no.

45:25 Drew So, he must, you have to ask him, what's motivating him to want?

45:27 Adam What does he want?

45:29 Well, I think just that he wants his life to be good, and you know, all that sort of thing.

45:35 Adam But why does he need you to make his life good? I mean, all I'm saying is a lot of guys might say, I never want to talk to her again, because if he gets around my wife, she'll say something, yeah. And has a wine cooler, she can start blabbing, and you know what I mean?

45:46 Drew On the other hand, if he's a guy who said, geez, I've come to terms with this, this was a horrible thing, I was being abused myself, I'm trying to close that chapter, get some closure going.

45:54 Adam Yeah, Drew, it's not about you, let's focus on the caller for a second.

45:58 He's never said anything like that to me.

46:01 Adam All right, Sarah, here's what I would say.

46:03 Drew Let's keep him away, don't worry about it.

46:05 Adam Here's what I would say.

46:06 My father wants to know why I won't talk to him, and my mother wants to know why, we don't have the same mother.

46:14 Bad Religion They don't have the same mother.

46:16 Adam All right, so here's the thing.

46:18 Bad Religion Who are you afraid of more, your father or your brother?

46:22 I think I'm afraid that my father won't believe it, and I can't imagine telling him anything.

46:29 Adam Sarah, here's my advice. I would say to take his phone call, or to write him a letter, and to say, look, you got 10 minutes to really explain to me why you're trying to reconnect, and what you feel about what went on in the past. We're not going to do this at Thanksgiving. We'll do it now. If I'm satisfied, we might be able to begin a very slow process.

46:54 Drew If you're inclined, if you're not, then put it aside. Don't worry about it. It's not your obligation.

46:59 Adam No, it's not, but...

47:00 Drew The guy's a perpetrator.

47:02 Adam Yeah, but different mom and weird mom's boyfriend got to him, and not her fault, but...

47:09 Bad Religion Yeah, still the first thing out of his mouth should be, I'm so sorry. That's a good way to start a telephone conference, not anything else, not how you do it.

47:15 Adam Right. Do you hear that, family? There you go. Do you hear that? Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Jane Craig here tonight. From Bad Religion. Going to be at the House of Blues coming up this Wednesday and Thursday, but it's sold out. So what can you do?

48:15 Bad Religion Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

48:16 Bad Religion Oh, sorry, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. They're still all sold out.

48:20 Adam But they're still sold out.

48:21 Bad Religion So what are we going to do?

48:22 Adam They have a couple of tickets.

48:24 Bad Religion Yeah, we can give away some. How do we do this? Well, we have two tickets for Wednesday night to give away to. How do we do it? Caller number thirty seven.

48:42 Adam Caller thirty seven.

48:43 Bad Religion Can we do that?

48:44 Caller Yeah, but you'll never do that.

48:47 Bad Religion It's random.

48:48 Adam But I will talk to people. I'm going to talk to people from Los Angeles and the Los Angeles area, because obviously, Sarah's calling from Colorado.

49:00 Bad Religion She might drive.

49:02 Bad Religion She's got time.

49:03 Bad Religion Dexter can pick her up.

49:04 Bad Religion It's two nights from San Diego.

49:07 Drew You and Dexter can go out and pick her up.

49:09 Adam Yeah.

49:09 Drew Fly out there and grab her.

49:10 Adam Well, Dexter and I are going to San Francisco for lunch tomorrow and then coming back. That's one of those things you do when you have a chat. Yeah. Let's talk to Steve and see. Steve?

49:27 Caller Yes.

49:28 Adam 19?

49:29 Caller Yeah, I'm 19.

49:30 Adam All right. I can tell you're not a bad religion fan, so I'm not going to offer you the tickets. No. Yeah. Are you Steve?

49:39 Caller No, I've never actually heard of him until today.

49:41 Adam Thank you. Thank you. I can tell that. Yeah.

49:45 Bad Religion But that's good for you.

49:46 Adam Yeah. Well, we could send you to the show and make you a convert, but I think you have to earn it.

49:52 Drew Yes.

49:52 Adam So go ahead, Steve.

49:53 Caller Okay. You want me to tell my story or?

49:57 Drew Please. Please.

49:58 Caller Oh, do I hate Steve? So I've been with this girl for about a month.

50:02 Adam Hold on, Drew. What is that gene everyone in my family has? And you actually have it, too. That's why you irritate me. But that I've never heard of something gene. You know what I mean? I would say, it's so convenient just to call them stupid, but you're not dumb. Do you know what I mean? It's a gene.

50:19 Drew My mom has it. Is it the obnoxious part, the not just saying, no, I'm sorry, I just don't know, as opposed to I've never heard of it.

50:24 Adam Yeah. It's like I have these conversations where it's like, yeah, mom, well, yeah, it's good beer, but it kind of tastes like a Zima. What's a Zima? You know, it's that stuff. You've seen that liquor. No, never seen. You've seen billboards for Zima. No, never have. You've been driving in your car and past Zima advertised. I guarantee you just didn't notice. No, I've never seen it. Now you get in this argument where you're yelling at them that they've seen a Zima commercial, but how does it escape your psyche? How does it get through your gill net? You know, like, I'm not a Zima guy. I got nothing. I'm not into these, you know, spirits, but I know what I've just, I've seen it. How do you, what is that gene? It's not, no, you, you say for you and I'll, you're a doctor, so I'll let you slide on this. You're focused.

51:13 Drew You're very much focused.

51:14 Adam You screen everything out in order for you to focus on your subject, your field of expertise. But what about my mom?

51:21 Drew I don't know.

51:21 Bad Religion It's a priority from A to B. She just came to the grocery store. She doesn't want to see anything else.

51:24 Adam The pot? She just smoked pot in like 30 years.

51:27 Drew The nutmeg.

51:28 Adam The nutmeg? Well, what is that, Drew? Generally, would you call it stupid?

51:33 Drew The stupid is not out of it-ness.

51:35 Adam Yeah, but it's a form of stupid. And if not, then what is smart? You know what I mean? Guys who do well on standardized tests.

51:42 Bad Religion You know what I'm saying? You're talking about being culturally ignorant. Yeah. But that's not ignorant. That's just unaware of pop culture.

51:50 Adam People that has nothing enters their radar screen. You know what I mean? Nothing makes it onto their radar.

51:57 Bad Religion Yeah, but because their radar screen is full.

52:00 Drew Or it's full of what?

52:02 Bad Religion Full of what?

52:03 Adam Eventually they just end up on account of NASCAR.

52:05 Bad Religion Yeah, full of NASCAR and Budweiser. You talk about alcohol and they go, what a bud?

52:10 Adam Right. All right. Steve?

52:11 Caller Yes.

52:12 Drew You're back to stupid now.

52:12 Adam I'm sorry about that conversation, but it's like talking in front of a lizard. They don't know what you're doing.

52:17 Drew All right, Steve, what's up?

52:19 Caller Okay, I've been going out with this girl for a month and I had sex with her three times. She's the first girl I've ever had sex with.

52:26 Drew Shocking.

52:27 Caller And every time I had sex with her with my condom, it keeps falling off.

52:32 Adam You got to step up to a durex. They got a new drawstring brand. Are you a keep your change in there? Keep your honker in there?

52:38 Drew How long do you go before it slides off?

52:41 Caller About five minutes. It depends like on what we do. When she's on top of me, it's fine. Cause I can, so that I try to hold it. Yeah. Whenever I go like missionary.

52:51 Drew Yeah.

52:51 Caller That's when it comes off inside of her.

52:54 Drew And is that after you ejaculate?

52:56 Caller No, I'm still pretty hard. I didn't go limping or anything.

53:00 Bad Religion Have you tried different brands?

53:01 Drew Different sizes?

53:03 Caller I mean, I just go in and I just...

53:05 Bad Religion Just ask for rubbers?

53:08 Adam Well, yeah, you should, you should probably experiment with different brands. But Drew, he says pretty hard, which means he's losing a little of his erection.

53:18 Drew Are you?

53:19 Caller I mean, it's not like I limped or anything.

53:23 Bad Religion Are you thinking about the condom coming off?

53:26 Caller Yeah, I mean, I get a little nervous when I, Adam didn't say that you went limp.

53:30 Drew He said that you lose your erection a little bit.

53:32 Adam Yeah, I'm getting bogus, by the way.

53:33 Drew Yeah, something.

53:34 Adam I'm not buying this. Steve?

53:36 Caller Yes?

53:37 Adam I'm having trouble believing you. It doesn't, it feels very insincere.

53:43 Caller I'm sorry, what?

53:45 Adam I think this is a bogus call. I don't buy it.

53:48 Caller Adam?

53:49 Adam Yes.

53:51 Caller Oh my, I think everything happens for a reason.

53:54 Drew Yeah, yeah.

53:55 Adam Thanks, Steve.

53:56 Caller No, Adam.

53:57 Adam But a decent try.

53:58 Bad Religion There's no straight lines.

53:59 Adam There's no straight lines in HIVE. Yeah, yeah.

54:02 Caller I really just wanted the Durex condom package.

54:04 Drew All right.

54:06 Adam All right. You want the CD and the money and the poker chips? No.

54:13 Caller You could just give me condoms if you want.

54:15 Bad Religion Just send him the condoms.

54:16 Adam All right, I'm going to pick you, Steve.

54:18 Bad Religion Size extra small.

54:19 Drew Steve's been picked. Wow.

54:21 Adam Well, I'll tell you why.

54:22 Drew That's all it takes in the show. You just call up and say, I'd like that kit, please.

54:25 Bad Religion Is that my target?

54:26 Adam First off, what do I care?

54:27 Bad Religion You ask for it, you get it.

54:28 Drew I'll read it again so you're done with that too.

54:30 Adam All right, but let me say this.

54:33 Drew You know what you've done?

54:34 Adam Insincerity. They're all going to do that. There was something very bogus coming out of his voice. It was bad acting.

54:41 Drew It was bad acting, yeah.

54:42 Adam My Spidey sense has been going nuts with bad acting lately because he didn't have any what you would call the traditional tells of the bogus call. It seemed like sort of legitimate. It wasn't much of a question.

54:54 Drew People don't usually go nebbish on the bogus call.

54:57 Adam He went nebbish on the bogus. Steve, here's the thing. I like the idea that you attempted a bogus call. I like the idea that you fessed up almost immediately and didn't argue with me. And you are one bad religion compliment away from getting yourself some Durex condoms and up to $30 in cold hard cash. So what can you say about Bad Religion?

55:23 Caller I've heard one song so far today and I think it's the best band I've ever heard in my life.

55:29 Adam Right. Alright.

55:31 Bad Religion I find that highly sincere.

55:32 Adam Stay online. I don't care.

55:34 Bad Religion I don't buy it in.

55:35 Adam Because it's just a transcript. It's got to read.

55:38 Bad Religion I love it.

55:39 Adam Yeah. Alright Steve. Hang on buddy. You're one more compliment away from going to a Bad Religion concert.

55:47 Bad Religion Standing on stage playing the bass guitar.

55:49 Adam That's right.

55:50 Caller Oh my God. I think I actually, actually I can hold on a condom when I listen to Bad Religion.

55:58 Adam Awesome. But just a little bit short of the mark.

56:00 Caller No, no, no.

56:01 Drew You get the kit. You get the kit.

56:03 Adam What y'all hold will give them the whole direct kit, right?

56:07 Drew Alright. Why don't you read your thing again just so you get it?

56:09 Adam Uh, well, you know, that was a Bad Religion thing. Where's my, uh, Durex thing? Yeah. So here's how it goes. One lucky person.

56:18 Drew Named Steve.

56:18 Adam Named Steve who calls in tonight is going to get a Durex party pack. That is, uh, CDs. That is a poker set. That's, uh, money. So you can gamble with that. And then, uh, Durex condoms. Each night this week, I'm going to decide, I've decided already.

56:34 Drew Yeah.

56:34 Adam I've, uh, picked young Steve and, uh, you gotta be 18 years or older to play. And remember, it's brought to you by Durex. There's sex. And then, Drew, what?

56:43 Drew Durex.

56:44 Adam That's what there is.

56:46 Bad Religion Corolla.

56:47 Drew Adam.

56:48 Adam Oh, wait a minute. He's bumpy that way. Gotta go Adam Corolla. All right, Steve, hang on. Mandy?

56:53 Yes?

56:53 Adam You're 25?

56:55 Caller Yes, I am.

56:56 Adam What's up?

56:57 Caller Um, I'm calling because, um, every time I have intercourse, I cry afterwards.

57:05 Drew Chief Running Bear?

57:07 Adam I'm sorry? Yeah, we're the two Chief Running Bears. Yeah, hey. So, um, yeah, we ever molested or anything we need to know about?

57:17 Caller Um, you know, I don't know. I have kind of a hazy memory, but it feels like it was a dream or a movie I saw or something. It's almost like I don't think it happened to me. I really don't know.

57:31 Drew Has this always happened or just with this particular partner?

57:33 Caller No, just within the last year.

57:35 Drew Are you having pain with intercourse?

57:36 Caller No.

57:37 Drew And is it, what are you feeling? What's the reaction?

57:40 Caller I feel really, really sad, but I really don't know why.

57:43 Drew Have you, is this this, um, this relationship going okay?

57:47 Caller Yeah, we've been together for five years.

57:49 Drew Uh-oh, this is a sign sometimes that the relationship has sort of run its course, particularly in young people, that sort of moment it's supposed to feel so intimate and it feels kind of disconnected and empty.

58:00 Adam Really?

58:00 Drew That makes people feel that juxtaposition makes people feel sad sometimes.

58:04 Adam But we've never heard anyone talk about crime.

58:06 Drew Yeah, yeah, yeah.

58:06 Adam Is it a sign to the relationship being over?

58:08 Drew Maybe I haven't stated it that way.

58:09 Adam We've heard about people crying, but it just means that they're drudging up some pain from the past.

58:15 Drew Also though, I've heard of it sometimes meaning being associated with, in particular, younger couples where they don't know to end relationship and it goes on since they're already teen, it goes and goes and goes, and all of a sudden they're still having sex and it's kind of empty and doesn't feel intimate. Makes you sad.

58:29 Adam What about that part of it, Mandy, what about Drew's hypotheses?

58:33 Caller We have had problems. We were together for a long time and we lived together and he kind of got into smoking pot all the time and I left him and moved out on my own to go to college. Now, we've just recently kind of gotten back together, but neither of us was with anyone else during the time we were apart.

58:52 Drew But look, should you be together?

58:54 Adam Lord knows he tried. God, did he try.

58:59 Bad Religion When you got back together, is that when you started crying?

59:01 Bad Religion Yes.

59:02 Drew Yeah, I just don't think it's what it should be.

59:04 Adam Also there is another thought that we have, we'll see if Jane and Greg share this thought, which is people, when you break up with someone at like 23, go ahead and stay broken up.

59:16 Drew It's meant to be, yeah.

59:17 Adam You hook up with them at 19, you stay together for like four years and then you break up, stay broken up. You getting back together usually means the guy thought he was going to get laid and he just couldn't scrape anything up.

59:27 Drew And all the fantasies of early relationships are stuck and you don't know how to engage and disengage and keep good boundaries. It's just yucky.

59:35 Adam Well, I think what women, I think what guys do is guys get lulled into a false sense of sexual security. Like they go, hey, I'm getting it every night. So I go out on my own. Maybe I get it every other night from new and beautiful and exotic women every night. Then after a six month dry spell, they're ready to come back and negotiate. For the chicks, their thing is like, I had so much time invested in this. Five years wasted. Five, you know, that's one of those chick things. Guys never do that, but they go, we hear it all the time. Five years wasted to what? To just break up?

1:00:09 Drew And our thing is, hey, great, go throw some good time after bad.

1:00:12 Bad Religion Yeah.

1:00:13 Adam Yeah, well.

1:00:13 Drew Five years here.

1:00:14 Adam You want to make it eight years wasted? You're already at five. And by the way, apply this same logic to a job. This is a horrible job you've wasted five years at. You want to waste another five or possibly a lifetime at this horrible company? Yes, you should have got out four years ago, which is all the more reason you should get out tomorrow. Right. All right. Let me see if that's Mandy. Mandy, have we successfully talked you out of this relationship?

1:00:37 Caller Yeah, I think I got the advice I needed. You guys are right.

1:00:41 Adam Yeah. Well, it's weird because the crying is normally we don't.

1:00:45 Drew No, I've heard of this. I've not brought it up very often because they don't usually say, I'm feeling sad at the end of sex. Let's say I cry about it. Emotionally, I don't understand why. But when they talk about feeling sad, that's usually the flu. Oh, really?

1:00:57 Adam You feel sad?

1:00:59 Caller Yeah, I do feel sad. I just, I don't have an explanation for the sadness. Like, I couldn't tell you why I was sad.

1:01:06 Drew I think it's the relationship.

1:01:07 Caller Okay.

1:01:08 Drew You feel sad about the lack of intimacy in the relationship. Yeah.

1:01:10 Adam All right.

1:01:11 This is all right.

1:01:13 Adam Have you had other boyfriends?

1:01:15 Drew No.

1:01:16 Caller Beforehand, I had boyfriends before him, but.

1:01:19 Drew But nothing like this is five years.

1:01:21 Adam But not in the future, because I'm asking about the future. I'm lucky to actually go into the future.

1:01:25 Drew Will you have had boyfriends?

1:01:27 Bad Religion Will you have had new boyfriends?

1:01:28 Adam It's the year 2018.

1:01:31 Caller Denim has been outlawed.

1:01:32 Adam Everyone's wearing great jumpsuits. And doors no longer have hinges. They're all Aperture style doors. Now, will you have had? Yeah. Before this guy. Right.

1:01:44 Caller Yeah, I had other boyfriends. One relationship as long as I think we were together for four years.

1:01:50 Adam All right. All right. Well, that's it. How old are you?

1:01:53 Caller 25.

1:01:54 Adam Yeah.

1:01:55 Caller All right.

1:01:55 Adam You know what?

1:01:56 Drew You know what, Mandy?

1:01:57 Adam You need to spend a little time with yourself.

1:01:59 Drew Yeah.

1:02:00 Adam Yeah. Yeah. Let's go ahead and do that. All right.

1:02:03 Drew Thank you.

1:02:04 Adam Thank you.

1:02:04 Bad Religion Thanks, Mandy.

1:02:05 Adam It's an interesting thing. I wonder if I come up with a horrible sex is kind of sending thought here, but I wonder if women don't spend enough time with themselves. And then the ones that do seem to be kind of successful and the ones that go from boyfriend to boyfriend to boyfriend sort of focus on being a girlfriend or being excited or playing the role of a girlfriend. And they never seem to get the I don't want to say education because sometimes they go to school and become that they never forged the personality or whatever. They become the homely chicks that end up running the Fortune 500 companies or are even lonelier, though, who are even lonelier, but have gone without. Like also, I think it sort of holds true with guys. It's like, you show me somebody who's like a was a serial dater, like from the time they were 13, they had that steady and all the way up until 35, just never been without a partner, one to the next. I'll show you one you don't really want to sit next to on a long plane flight. You know, like somehow they never developed something. Women even more so, I say, than guys.

1:03:08 Bad Religion But isn't that like, that's an old school thought, right? That's that breeding or training women to come up as just housewives and.

1:03:16 Adam Yeah, I don't, I mean, I don't know that. I mean, I'm not saying that's what they need to do. I'm just saying, I think human beings need a certain amount of downtime in order to investigate themselves and to grow a little bit.

1:03:29 Drew Well, if they need to fully separate. Yeah, me time. Not just be in a family, playing a role in a family of origin and then switch that role to a relationship.

1:03:38 Adam Right, you go from your mommy and daddy to your boyfriend and it's right to the next, right to the next, right to the next, and then you're married.

1:03:44 Drew Yeah, separate.

1:03:44 Adam And then you have your kids and then you have whatever. And before you know it, you don't seem to have much personality. Why should you? You never really struck out on your own. I also have this, the same theory sort of applies to kids that are constantly stimulated. Like, I wonder if you know how you used to sit around and just stare at stuff?

1:04:02 Drew Yes.

1:04:02 Adam I ate an ant once. I was so goddamn bored when I was like 12. I just sitting on my bed, staring at an ant. I ate it. I was in lock down.

1:04:13 Drew He was not three. He was twelve.

1:04:15 Bad Religion That's what I was going to say.

1:04:18 Adam I was locked down in my room once again. There was no TV set, no stereo, no video games or nothing. And I'm just staring at an ant, you know, and I just ate it. Because I was that goddamn bored. But the point is, I think my mind was able to develop an imagination because I had so much sort of bored down time. I wonder, even if it's educational, I wonder if kids are losing that because of the constant processing of information. And parents do that thing where it's like, we have to keep the kids stimulated, stimulated, and not stimulated, not, no, this is educational stimulation, but it's still not letting them shut down and create.

1:04:58 Drew Agreed.

1:04:58 Adam You know what I'm saying?

1:04:59 Drew Absolutely.

1:04:59 Adam Wow, heavy.

1:05:01 Bad Religion I agree with that.

1:05:02 Adam I got to be right. I'm thinking about breaking a little early just to be right. Because I usually go out wrong.

1:05:08 Drew I'm thinking if you break, I'll need to pee, so it'll be good.

1:05:10 Adam Yeah.

1:05:11 Bad Religion And then you can be right for like five minutes.

1:05:13 Drew You've done your directs thing. You've done everything, you're all set.

1:05:16 Adam Let's just wrap it up. Let's play the entire Bad Religion CD, which is really only 11 minutes long. They rock that hard, you know what I mean?

1:05:24 Bad Religion 11 minutes, 32 seconds.

1:05:27 Adam You know what you get with Bad Religion? You get a concentrated rock like the Frozen OJ. Other bands make three, four gallons of rock out of what, that takes up half a cup for them. I mean, they're concentrated rock.

1:05:38 Bad Religion We're not from Concentrate.

1:05:39 Adam No, I know you're like fresh squeezed rock, what I'm saying.

1:05:42 Bad Religion It's the pith is what you're talking about.

1:05:44 Adam The pith, yeah. Let's take a quick break. Chris, I'm right, you know? Yeah, we'll be back with your little concentrated rock from Bad Religion after this.

1:05:58 Bad Religion Loveline will be right back.

1:06:19 Adam Hey there, buddy, it's the Loveline of Adam. That's Dr. Drew, Jane Gregg here tonight from Bad Religion. The Donnas are going to be in here on Wednesday, and then Thursday, the Foo Fighters. Great, great, great live band.

1:06:34 Caller Great band.

1:06:35 Adam Yeah, you know, I was thinking, I mean, I'm going to kiss a little, a little Dave Grohl ass because of our past run-ins. That's a trouble with Dave Grohl.

1:06:43 Bad Religion Fighting with Dave?

1:06:45 Drew Yeah.

1:06:46 Adam Yeah. I've had some misunderstandings with certain bands and, you know, comes with the territory.

1:06:52 Drew This was a good one, though.

1:06:53 Adam Dave.

1:06:56 Bad Religion Didn't get your humor?

1:06:57 Adam You stole his tools? Dave lived across, Dave's sister lives across the street from one of my homes, literally a millionaire.

1:07:06 Drew Literally.

1:07:06 Adam And I saw him at some concert. I told him I would swing by and say hi because he was staying at his sister's place and I was visiting one of my many homes. And I came by one Sunday morning and banged on the door and it was one of those things like you know when you knock on the door sometimes after you knock you think to yourself I wish I never knocked. There's a party that wants to run. Every day. What am I doing? There's somehow just from the knock you can tell there's something. And then so nothing happened. I took a step away but I heard someone like coming down the stairs and on the end.

1:07:41 Drew Things didn't feel right.

1:07:42 Adam Things didn't feel right and his now wife, his now wife answered the door looking like she'd woken up just a few moments ago. And like they'd had a nice night of drinking and hijinks. And so later on I was on the radio saying I went over to Dave Grohl's house and some floozy answered the door.

1:08:03 Drew Was it as nice as floozy?

1:08:05 Adam I could have said strumpet. I don't remember what the word of choice was.

1:08:10 Drew Or was it crack horn?

1:08:11 Adam Whatever. Whatever it was. I was assuming she was a gal that David hooked up with that night kind of thing. And it seemed like real rock star stuff. It was a compliment in a backhanded way. It turned out to be his fiance. He took some offense to it, but he was he was man enough to come on the air and confront me with it. He got a little heated, but hopefully we've put all that behind us.

1:08:35 Bad Religion She's a very nice lady. Did you ever meet her in that time?

1:08:38 Adam Yeah, turns out I think I knew her. I'd actually met her even before then, but I didn't recognize her with her hairstyle, which is, you know, had a little pillow head going on.

1:08:49 Bad Religion A little Drew Barrymore.

1:08:50 Adam Little Drew Barrymore going on the noggin. So she was but a delight and I'm a big fan. And, you know, I think about Dave Grohl with Foo Fighters and Nirvana. First off, Foo Fighters slowly taking over Nirvana. I mean, like maybe 20 years from now when the dust settles, everyone looks at all the albums released and all the songs that come out. Maybe they go, we like Foo Fighters better. I know it sounds it sounds it sounds radical, but they're still going. You know, the Foo Fighters haven't slowed down. Great, great live band. And I'm just saying Dave Grohl in two of the rockinest bands, really, in the last last 15 years.

1:09:30 Bad Religion Chris, everything happens for a reason.

1:09:32 Bad Religion Chris is a huge Nirvana fan, so he might be getting pissed off.

1:09:35 Adam I do.

1:09:35 Caller I do believe that Nirvana is a great band and Foo Fighters is a great band, too.

1:09:39 Drew But yeah, they can't.

1:09:40 Adam No, I'm definitely I'm definitely I can't argue that that Nirvana was real groundbreaking and, you know, paved the way and all that kind of stuff. Very unique. But Foo Fighters have now what is now? I don't know what they're on. They're six hour or eight hour or something and a lot of good songs. Dave Grohl going from behind the skins to up front with the guitars is that's good. In those both those bands is pretty damn good. Yeah.

1:10:08 Drew Yeah. Yeah.

1:10:09 Bad Religion Beat Phil Collins.

1:10:10 Adam Yeah. And Don Henley, who the hell is from the Eagles who did that? That guy. And that guy from the Romantics.

1:10:18 Bad Religion Jackson Brown played the drums.

1:10:20 Adam No. Yeah. What was he in the Eagles like the first five minutes?

1:10:25 Drew Yeah. All right. George.

1:10:28 Adam Drew saw the Eagles, by the way.

1:10:30 Bad Religion He was in it.

1:10:30 Drew Hello.

1:10:31 Adam Drew was in them too. You saw the Eagles, didn't you?

1:10:34 Drew With Linda Rostet and Jackson Brown.

1:10:35 Adam Wow.

1:10:37 Bad Religion At the Forum.

1:10:38 Drew Who are they? At the Shrine.

1:10:41 Adam At the Shrine. All right. George is from West Covina. I'm going to say that if he can answer the question to one Jackson Brown song or one Linda Rostet song, he's going to get some tickets to Bad Religion. George?

1:10:56 Caller Yeah.

1:10:57 Adam Can you name one Jackson Brown song?

1:11:00 Caller No, I cannot.

1:11:02 Adam All right. How about Linda Rostet?

1:11:06 Caller No. All right.

1:11:07 Adam I'm going to brawn it. Linda Rostet, even when she was with the Stone Ponies. Go ahead. I'll make it easy.

1:11:13 Caller Hello. I'm a really big fan of Bad Religion.

1:11:18 Adam It's too bad you can't see them. You could have gotten tickets. You could have gotten tickets. All right. I'm going to say, George, I'm going to give you a break. Okay. I'm going to try this one more time, because you'd love to see them over at the House of Blues coming up this Wednesday.

1:11:34 Drew They're going to give you two tickets, if.

1:11:36 Adam If engineer Chris can name one Linda Ronstadt song.

1:11:41 I heard my name.

1:11:43 Adam He does not listen to the show. How's Lycus coming through the headphones? You okay?

1:11:47 Can you hear him okay?

1:11:48 Adam Well, turn him down for a second.

1:11:49 Drew What's he telling you right now?

1:11:51 Adam Blah, women pigeons, blah.

1:11:54 Bad Religion Why am I drinking? Shut up.

1:11:55 Caller Shove to the curb.

1:11:57 Adam So listen, one Linda Ronstadt song.

1:12:01 Caller Oh man.

1:12:02 Drew It includes a color.

1:12:05 Caller Purple I guess?

1:12:06 Drew Blue.

1:12:06 Adam All right, all right. Okay, let's give one Jackson Brown song.

1:12:10 Right on.

1:12:13 Caller I don't know.

1:12:14 Adam I hope they're not listening.

1:12:15 Caller That's all right, I'm used to it.

1:12:17 Adam All right, George.

1:12:18 Bad Religion Yeah.

1:12:19 Adam I'm sorry, you couldn't produce a song and neither could engineer Chris.

1:12:26 Bad Religion Adam Fortu answers it.

1:12:27 Adam 40 answers, Adam. Yeah.

1:12:29 Bad Religion Should we put you all on this ball?

1:12:30 Adam I'll tell you what song I like of Jackson Brown. Slow, not played that much, but a great song, Here Come Those Tears Again. That is an awesome Jackson Brown song.

1:12:39 Drew I was about to say that one.

1:12:40 Adam And-

1:12:41 Drew Isn't Doctor My Eyes his thing?

1:12:43 Adam Yes, there's a good one for you.

1:12:45 Drew There's a precursor to Holla Notes.

1:12:47 Adam All right, go ahead, George.

1:12:50 Caller I've been listening to your band for quite some time now. I noticed that you guys are obviously atheists, or at least whoever writes your songs.

1:12:58 Drew You're gay.

1:12:59 Caller I was wondering what led you from whatever it was you believed in childhood into atheism, or were you always an atheist?

1:13:08 Drew You're gay.

1:13:09 Adam Jay's not an atheist, Jay's pagan.

1:13:12 Bad Religion It's really the question is to ask Jay why he's not an atheist, because if someone's an atheist, they basically start off with no, I mean, in my case, I was never taught to believe.

1:13:29 Drew And you're a scientist.

1:13:30 Bad Religion Well, yeah, I mean, I was surrounded by academics my whole life, because my parents are academics, but to me, it seems like you have to have a reason to believe because it's a lot easier. I think there's more evidence that gods do not exist than evidence that gods exist.

1:13:50 Adam Well, I do agree with that. It's always the thing where-

1:13:53 Bad Religion The burden of proof is on the person who suggests that a god exists.

1:13:56 Adam I agree, or anything exists. You gotta go ahead and prove it. And it's weird where the onus becomes on the guy who never said anything, which is, I like this one too, where they go, oh, God doesn't exist. How'd all this get here? That's your argument?

1:14:11 Bad Religion That's their argument.

1:14:12 Bad Religion It's that guy.

1:14:13 Adam Yeah, guy with a beard put it here with sandals.

1:14:16 Bad Religion The Santa Claus looking guy, kinda.

1:14:18 Bad Religion It's not the guy with a beard, it's because everything happens for a reason.

1:14:22 Caller I believe that.

1:14:23 Adam I do believe it. I believe in the great magnet, but I'm not sure about God.

1:14:28 Bad Religion I believe in the great pumpkin, still.

1:14:30 Adam I do too. Drew, do Charlie Brown's teacher for a second, would you please? Wawawawawa. All right, that's enough.

1:14:38 Bad Religion Anyways, I just want to say though, Bad Religion doesn't, we are not down on anybody who does believe, and we get these questions all the time.

1:14:48 Adam I'm sure.

1:14:49 Bad Religion And we get, we actually have a tremendous following among Christians, and I think Lutherans too. Lutherans. Yes, huge Lutheran fan.

1:14:58 Bad Religion Huge Lutheran following.

1:14:59 Bad Religion We're big in Minnesota.

1:15:00 Bad Religion It's amazing. But it's all, yeah. We're not a collective of atheists or Catholics or Jews or anything. We're just six guys who all have different beliefs.

1:15:10 Bad Religion But the guy who, George wanted to know about, you know, most of our songs, and the truth is a lot of the songs are indeed slanted towards the questions that we were just discussing here, and that's basically, you know, how do you make for a rational society if you don't have some kind of burden of proof?

1:15:34 Adam Well, you know, people always do that. They do a lot of that. I, as an atheist, I'm always insulted where it's sort of that. Well, yeah, but you got to understand, if everyone was an atheist, it would just be total chaos. People would be driving through red lights and having sex with their sister. It's like, I'm an atheist. I know the difference between right and wrong. I probably know it better. As a matter of fact, I have no way to repent. I have no excuses. I just know it. It's in me. I can't. It's not like a tax law that I can find an exemption to. I know when I've underpaid. And by the way, go check out Death Row. Find me the percentage of atheists on Death Row. Is it majority, 90% atheists on Death Row? Or we could talk about quite a few born agains and quite a few people that were least brought up with religion.

1:16:22 Bad Religion That's because the person who's challenging you has been told since he was a year old, basically, that religion is the source for our morality and the truth. I think one of the great triumphs of the 21st century will be when science and philosophy comes together to show that morality really comes from your parents. It's something that's handed to you from the time you're born and whatever your parents are is pretty much what you will become more.

1:16:53 Adam Oh, we hear that night in and night out here. And also, do you want to live in a society like it's sort of like saying, well, we need cops because cops stop people from doing bad things, which is sort of God stops people from doing bad things. But wouldn't it be a utopia if people just didn't want to do bad things? Not because they got stopped or caught or headed off at the pass, but just because it wasn't in their vocabulary is is an and I'm sure there's many religious people where it's not in their vocabulary. But if you can be completely void of all religion and still know that murder is wrong.

1:17:29 Drew It goes in the assumption that we are evil to begin with.

1:17:32 Adam Right, which comes from doctrine. I didn't sign off on the part where we started off as evil. Although I do believe everything happens for a reason. And there are no straight lines in nature. Yeah, someone had to give God a straight edge. We get some nice straight lines in nature when he drew things up. Because how else would this have gotten here? Come on, give me a break.

1:17:54 Bad Religion The guy with the biggest stick, way back when.

1:17:57 Adam Use your brain. Alright, let's talk to Sarah, who's 22 and wants to hook up. She's from Idaho. I like my name a Jackson Brown song and go through a Bad Religion concert. Now here's the beauty of it.

1:18:12 Drew We have no LA, oh here's one.

1:18:14 Adam We've already named a few Jackson Brown songs. And we will accept ones we've named. And still have difficulty getting answers.

1:18:20 Drew There's only one guy locally. It's Redlands on four.

1:18:22 Adam Redlands? Is that closer than Bakersfield? I guess it is.

1:18:28 Bad Religion Yes.

1:18:28 Adam You're calling from Redlands?

1:18:30 Bad Religion Yes, sir.

1:18:31 Adam Would you like to see Bad Religion?

1:18:34 Bad Religion Um, yeah, I would love to actually.

1:18:36 Adam Alright, all we need is one Jackson Brown song title.

1:18:41 Bad Religion Okay, well that's probably where I'm gonna lose because I'm not a big Jackson Brown fan.

1:18:47 Drew We mentioned a couple songs here while we were chatting away.

1:18:49 Adam I told you that was neither here nor there.

1:18:52 Bad Religion Could we accept the, who did he used to be married to? That was all over the news, wasn't it?

1:18:57 Drew I don't remember that.

1:18:58 Adam He, oh, well, he dated. He dated. Oh, you mean the blondie?

1:19:05 Bad Religion Yeah, way back when.

1:19:06 Adam Yeah, I'm gonna give that one away. Hold on a second. I don't know that her and him and Darryl Hannah were ever married, but I think they just dated, but we could find out. Who did he date, Nicole?

1:19:19 Bad Religion Darryl Hannah.

1:19:22 Bad Religion Are you sure? Nicole, right?

1:19:25 Bad Religion Yes.

1:19:25 Bad Religion Are you sure about that?

1:19:27 Bad Religion I think so. I put bad religion tickets on the line for it.

1:19:32 Adam Yeah. All right. You're out in Redlands. Will the donkey make it to West Hollywood?

1:19:39 Bad Religion Oh, yeah.

1:19:39 Adam You can get out to West LA. And you can do it on Wednesday night on the Fabulous Sunset Strip?

1:19:45 Bad Religion Of course.

1:19:46 Adam All right. Because if I see these things on eBay, I'm coming after you, baby.

1:19:54 Caller All right.

1:19:55 Adam Okay.

1:19:56 Caller All right.

1:19:56 Adam Now, what is your question? And then we'll put you on hold. And are you married? Do you have a boyfriend? What do you got?

1:20:01 Bad Religion I have a boyfriend.

1:20:03 Drew This is about your boyfriend, right? This question?

1:20:05 Bad Religion Yes.

1:20:05 Drew All right. Go ahead.

1:20:06 Bad Religion I've been with my boyfriend for a year and two months, this Wednesday, actually.

1:20:11 Adam And you're celebrating a 14 month anniversary in two days.

1:20:16 Bad Religion Yeah.

1:20:17 Adam Awesome.

1:20:17 Bad Religion They make a card for that, right?

1:20:18 Adam Oh, absolutely.

1:20:23 Bad Religion Right. A couple months ago, my dad found out that we were going to be moving in together and told me that if I moved in with him, he would disown me because my boyfriend's not our race. He's not white.

1:20:34 Adam What is he?

1:20:35 Bad Religion He's black.

1:20:36 Adam All right. But so a huge bad religion fan, 19-year-old black guys.

1:20:40 Bad Religion Yeah.

1:20:41 Drew All right.

1:20:41 Adam So good. Bring him with you on Wednesday night.

1:20:44 Drew On your 14th month anniversary.

1:20:47 Adam It'll be on. You'll be celebrating 14th month.

1:20:49 Bad Religion It actually will be.

1:20:52 Adam Is your dad a racist or was he growing up?

1:20:56 Drew Or is he just freaking out about his daughter dating?

1:20:59 Adam Yeah.

1:20:59 Bad Religion Yeah.

1:20:59 Bad Religion Well, no, because I've had boyfriends. My boyfriend Chris has been in my life for probably about five years now.

1:21:07 Caller Chris, the black guy?

1:21:09 Bad Religion Yes. He's not new to the picture. He's been around for a long time. Within these past five years, I got mixed up with a racist group.

1:21:20 Drew Who? You yourself?

1:21:22 Bad Religion But you did?

1:21:23 Bad Religion Yes, I did because my dad was like growing up, he was not racist, but he was prejudiced. He had black friends, but half of our family is Mexican. We were living in the mountains at the time and it was a really closed quarters and that was all there was up there.

1:21:39 Adam Was this in the 1870s or what year is this?

1:21:43 Bad Religion 1772.

1:21:44 Bad Religion You know, it probably stems from back then.

1:21:47 Adam 49ers mainly.

1:21:48 Drew Did your dad beat you?

1:21:51 Bad Religion No, my dad wasn't around when I was little. He was in jail until I was about 7.

1:21:55 Drew There we go. It's such a bizarre sort of swing you're on going from be participating in a racist group to dating a black guy.

1:22:06 Adam Well, first off, Drew, hold on a second. We have to talk about you behind your back, but judging from the Jackson Brown answer, you're not going to hear any of this. So just hang on a second. I love these questions because it really gives you a little insight into the human mind. Which is, you got the daughter, the daughter's dad was in the joint, daughter's dad was an alcoholic, racist, clearly an abusive a-hole, and a racist, and guess what, dad, dating a black guy. What do you think?

1:22:39 Drew But how weird that she even though was in a racist group?

1:22:41 Adam Well, that we got to get into, but it's payback time for daddy. If you're a bad dad and women do this, guys don't really do this, women do it. If you're a horrible guy and you're a racist and you're horrible to your daughter, she will make your life miserable by going, what's going to make dad the least happy? What if I brought home Lucius? Fantastic. Not a black guy.

1:23:05 Drew They bring home another woman like mom to drive mom crazy.

1:23:08 Bad Religion Yeah.

1:23:08 Adam Right, that's what guys do. Yeah, sicker.

1:23:11 Bad Religion But the question is, is what's her question?

1:23:13 Adam That's a good question.

1:23:14 Bad Religion Oh, well, she's a little upset about her dad disowning.

1:23:17 Bad Religion Yeah, what?

1:23:17 Adam Yeah. Oh, you're... Sarah, you're really upset.

1:23:20 Caller No, no, it's not Sarah.

1:23:21 Bad Religion I mean...

1:23:21 Adam Oh, it's not Sarah? Oh, shit. Idaho, because I was thinking white supremacy. Yeah, Nicole.

1:23:26 Bad Religion Yes.

1:23:27 Adam You really give a rat's ass about your horrible dad who was in the joint most of your childhood?

1:23:32 Bad Religion It's not just him, because if he disowns me, my whole family is taking his side.

1:23:37 Drew You'll lose the granite rock shed that you were in the cliff?

1:23:42 Bad Religion Yeah, what are they going to part of the racist group?

1:23:44 Drew The cave you were living in?

1:23:45 Adam Oh, there's a couple of propane tanks they're going to give her. Come on.

1:23:49 Bad Religion When I got mixed up with the skinheads, he kicked me out because I was with the racist group.

1:23:53 Adam Well, your dad's got range.

1:23:55 Caller I got to give him that.

1:23:57 Drew Well, no, she's got the range.

1:23:58 Adam You got range, too.

1:24:00 Bad Religion Well, yeah, that's...

1:24:02 Adam Well, you shouldn't have brought your black boyfriend to the skinhead meeting. That was number one. He's auditing.

1:24:08 Bad Religion You know, you have to move. You just need to move somewhere else.

1:24:11 Drew You need to get away from that.

1:24:12 Bad Religion You need to get away from all of that and move with your boyfriend somewhere nice and live happily ever after.

1:24:16 Drew What do you mean? You don't mean disown. You mean they're going to cut off a relationship with you? Because there's nothing to disown here.

1:24:22 Bad Religion They don't want anything to ever do with me. They don't want to talk. They've already cut off connection with me until I break up with them.

1:24:28 Adam All right. Here's what I don't understand. A couple of things.

1:24:31 Drew Wow.

1:24:32 Adam A, you have to understand, Sarah.

1:24:34 Drew And these are most of them are Mexican, right? Most of these people.

1:24:37 Bad Religion What was that?

1:24:38 Adam Most of your family's Mexican or half of them?

1:24:42 Bad Religion My stepbrother is Mexican. His wife is Mexican and my sister-in-law is Mexican and I have cousins that are Mexican.

1:24:49 Drew How come they're not standing up for you?

1:24:52 Adam Well, they're Mexican. They're drunk. They're put down. They're on the sofa. When they sober up, they're going to get right on their feet. Come on. I dare you to share it that way. Look, first off, only white people can be racist. That's number one. I've learned that. I've learned that from living in one of the blue states that only white people can be racist. So it's impossible for the Mexicans to be racist, number one. Number two, Nicole, you know that it's not a coincidence that you're dating a black man. You're dating a black man because you hate your horrible family and this is your dad's greatest nightmare. So you brought this guy home. Do you understand that on some level? Yeah. Okay. Well, at least you can admit that. Now, that being said, God bless you.

1:25:32 Drew Go on.

1:25:32 Adam And go on and we'll see at the Bad Religion Concert. But your family is a horrible hodgepodge of just your, it's like a stew made with only bad ingredients. There's nothing in there that's good. Just get out of the kitchen, would you? And here's the problem.

1:25:48 Drew If you're happy and successful, they'll be back in your life. Watch. Oh boy.

1:25:52 Adam Yeah. My phone doesn't stop ringing. Here's the thing, too. A lot of people have horrible families and they're so attached and enmeshed with them. Look, by your own words, your dad is a bad guy, your cousins, everyone's bad. It's possible. Wash your hands and move forward.

1:26:12 Drew Or just don't be so caught up in their web.

1:26:15 Adam How important is it for you to get validated by bad people? Do you know this weird syndrome? You hear your wife do it all the time. My wife will do it. Women do it. They do that thing where it's like, Cheryl said I was being whatever. And it's like, Cheryl's a C, you know? And she's like, I know. But she said I was, who cares what? She's a horrible, vindictive, spiteful, thrice divorced old C, you know? I know. But here's what she said about me. You should pray that bad people think you're bad. That's a good sign.

1:26:48 Drew It means something good.

1:26:49 Adam It means you're doing something right. You don't want horrible people to think you're a genius and praise you. You're one of us. You're our leader. I think that's what happened to me in the man show, actually. The thing is, it's good when bad people think you're bad. That's how you should want it. All right. Am I right or am I right? You're right. Let's break off, Nicole. Get your boyfriend of color and bring him to Bad Religion.

1:27:14 Bad Religion Yeah, come to the show and say hi.

1:27:16 Bad Religion Yeah, that's right. All right, let's go.

1:27:18 Adam Let's break it down. Let's go. Let's get a hand. Let's go now. Those helmets aren't chairs, Joe. Let's go. Gravity, gravity. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

1:27:33 Caller Please hold. Hey, everybody, Loveline.

1:27:56 Adam We got Jane Greig here from Bad Religion. The Donnas are coming in here on Wednesday, and then Thursday. Foo Fighters, very excited about that. We need, no, we would like to hear another Bad Religion song, yes? You cute up there, Chris? It's long overdue, but we'll better late than never. Social Suicide. Yeah, quintessential bad religion. That sounded as much like a bad religion song as bad religion songs get, and I mean that in a good way, but a very bad religion of you.

1:30:05 Bad Religion It was bad religion-y.

1:30:06 Bad Religion We're trying that.

1:30:07 Adam It was esk, yes, bad religion-esk.

1:30:10 Caller Drew?

1:30:11 Adam All right, now you gotta come back to the hill.

1:30:12 Bad Religion What are you doing over there?

1:30:14 Adam Yeah, Drew, come on, let's go. Good playing, grab that.

1:30:16 Bad Religion He's looking up drinks with nutmeg.

1:30:17 Where's Dr. Drew?

1:30:19 Adam Let's focus. Sarah?

1:30:21 Hello?

1:30:22 Adam You're 22?

1:30:23 Caller Yeah.

1:30:24 Adam You wanna hook up with your boyfriend's sister?

1:30:27 Caller Just, not like hook up, hook up, but you know, just one night of fun.

1:30:32 Adam One night of fun.

1:30:33 Drew Your boyfriend's sister.

1:30:34 Caller My best friend.

1:30:36 Drew She's your best friend.

1:30:37 Adam Best friend. It says here your boyfriend's in jail?

1:30:40 Caller Yeah.

1:30:42 Adam When is, see, we could, you know, here would be a great time to play my first installment of Definitely Not a Jew. See, this is how it would work. Calling from Idaho. Her man's in the joint. She wants to have a lesbian affair.

1:30:56 Drew With his sister.

1:30:56 Adam With his sister. I just, I mean, Sarah?

1:31:00 Drew Yeah.

1:31:01 Adam Not Jewish?

1:31:02 Drew No.

1:31:03 Adam Okay. See how the game works?

1:31:04 Drew You win.

1:31:05 Adam I win.

1:31:06 Bad Religion I would have bet 50 bucks for it, man.

1:31:08 Adam Yeah. See Sarah? Pretty sure she wants you to. All right. So what's your boyfriend in the joint for? And we will not accept parole violation as an answer.

1:31:18 Caller Well, that is the answer.

1:31:20 Adam All right. What did he do to get on parole?

1:31:25 Caller He stole some cars.

1:31:27 Adam Some cars. All right. And what was his parole violation?

1:31:33 Drew Obsconcion?

1:31:34 Caller That's running.

1:31:36 Drew Obsconding.

1:31:37 Bad Religion Isn't that a state?

1:31:38 Adam Yeah.

1:31:38 Caller Checking in.

1:31:39 Bad Religion He didn't check in with his parole officer.

1:31:41 Adam He didn't check in.

1:31:41 Bad Religion He's like, how long?

1:31:42 Drew He used a couple of bit.

1:31:43 Adam Right. All right.

1:31:45 Drew Thank you.

1:31:45 Adam And now he's back in the joint.

1:31:47 Caller Yeah. Yeah.

1:31:48 Adam I'm guessing there was a drug test or something coming up that he probably didn't think he was going to make. Of course. When is he getting out of the joint?

1:31:56 Caller In a week.

1:31:57 Adam Oh, in a week.

1:31:58 Bad Religion All right. Oh, so you wanted to get this done before he gets out, huh?

1:32:02 Drew Yeah.

1:32:02 Caller I don't know if I should. I mean, when I'm...

1:32:04 Drew No, don't.

1:32:05 Bad Religion You should not do it.

1:32:06 Drew You've got enough chaos in your life, honey. Please. All right.

1:32:09 Adam I'm getting, I'm getting ready to fall on this ball to a point. And I'll put it between my ribs where it'll catch me in the heart. Do you have kids, Sarah?

1:32:16 Caller I have a kid.

1:32:18 Drew What? We didn't hear it. How many kids? What? One kid.

1:32:23 Adam One kid. All right. And can you please get on some birth control?

1:32:28 Caller I am.

1:32:30 Adam You are?

1:32:30 Drew All right.

1:32:30 Adam So no more kids, right?

1:32:32 Caller Not right now.

1:32:33 Drew All right. No, not ever.

1:32:35 Adam A couple hundred years. Here's the thing. Focus on your child. Would you please focus on your child?

1:32:41 Drew I got to surgically remove this pen from Adam's left ventricle. He just fell on it. We got to take a break.

1:32:47 Adam We'll see you in the Sam Harless. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Sold out.

1:33:28 Drew Thank you.

1:33:30 Adam They don't need your charity. They just don't. 25 years.

1:33:35 Bad Religion Well, we'd like to say thanks to everybody in Southern California, and of course to K-Rock for helping us start with this.

1:33:43 Adam Yeah.

1:33:43 Bad Religion Can you make that sound again?

1:33:45 Adam Well, thank you, Anderson.

1:33:47 Bad Religion That's nice.

1:33:50 Adam And to all the fans of Bad Religion around the country that are listening to the program tonight, I'm sure Greg's going to tip his hat to them. And also, they may be coming to a town near you. So look out for them. We'll take ourselves a little extendo break. Jay, thanks for coming by. Greg, thanks for coming by.

1:34:08 Bad Religion Thank you.

1:34:09 Adam The Donnas on Wednesday and then the Foo Fighters on Thursday. Until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahala.

1:34:17 Bad Religion This has been Loveline.

1:34:21 Adam The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or the station. The producer for Loveline is Aningold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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