Episode 1000710698602

0:05 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience.

0:09 Voiceover Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content.

0:12 Voiceover Sexually-oriented content.

0:15 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised.

0:17 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. This is Loveline. Loveline, Loveline, Loveline, Loveline, with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

0:28 Voiceover Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew is in New York City tonight. Why, engineer Chris?

0:46 Somebody dropped a nickel.

0:47 Because somebody dropped a nickel.

0:49 There we go.

0:50 Drew Where's the drop? Where's the tape version?

0:52 Somebody dropped a nickel.

0:54 Adam Okay, let's try that one more time. Let's just start the whole show again. Hey, I'm Adam Corolla, sector board, service and phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew in New York City tonight. Why, engineer Chris?

1:07 Because somebody dropped a nickel.

1:09 Drew There we go.

1:10 Adam But did we need the goddamn five Mississippi before that?

1:15 Drew How about we give like five in a row drops of that?

1:18 Because somebody dropped a nickel. Because somebody dropped a nickel.

1:20 Because somebody dropped a nickel.

1:22 Because somebody dropped a nickel.

1:23 Because somebody dropped a nickel.

1:25 All right.

1:26 Adam That's Dr. Drew. You know what I love about this show, Drew? Even when you do it the second time and you say, all right, let's do it right this time, there's still a hiccup. Yeah.

1:36 Drew You know, you know that.

1:37 Adam And by the way, you got to be a certain kind of F up to do that. Do you know what I'm saying? A special kind, a special breed of F up. And that's what we have over here at K-Rock. Yes. The Dead 60s are in tonight. We got Matt McManaman. Yeah. That's a name. And Charlie Turner is in here as well. These guys are going to be playing at the Weenie Roast, Drew, you'll be glad to know.

2:02 Drew Can't wait.

2:03 Adam Yeah.

2:05 Drew Love that Weenie Roast.

2:06 Adam He does love the Weenie Roast. And Drew, you'll be back from New York City by then, yes?

2:11 Drew Just in time.

2:12 Adam Just in time for the Weenie Roast.

2:13 Drew Thank God.

2:15 Adam We'll hear something from the Dead 60s. Guys are from Liverpool. Yeah. It's been a while since we've had somebody or a band from Liverpool out here. Hasn't it, Drew?

2:25 Drew Yeah. I can't remember who that would have been even.

2:27 Adam I don't know. Who are all the favorite besides the Beatles? Who are the famous Liverpoolians?

2:33 The Dead 60s It might survive Echo and the Bunny Man.

2:35 Adam Oh, really?

2:36 The Dead 60s Or the Lars.

2:37 Have you heard of them? Maybe they didn't make it that far.

2:39 Adam No. No, not as famous as the Beatles or even Echo. But there's got to be a couple more. I mean, did the Beatles just make Liverpool a music scene for a while like, I don't know, Kurt Cobain made Seattle a music scene for a little while?

2:53 It's still kind of like that today.

2:56 The Dead 60s Magical mystery tours and...

2:58 Adam Is it Beatles stuff everywhere?

2:59 The Dead 60s Yeah, pretty much, yeah. The yellow submarine statues, all that kind of thing, yeah.

3:04 Adam Yeah. Is it annoying or are you proud of it?

3:06 The Dead 60s It's a little bit annoying after a while, but you know... You get used to it, you know, when you've been there for so long. We were kind of brought up on it, you know.

3:12 Adam And you guys met as school boys?

3:15 The Dead 60s Yeah, yeah.

3:16 Certainly did.

3:17 Adam And was the plan always to play in a band?

3:20 Yeah, it kind of was.

3:21 The Dead 60s Yeah. And to take over the world.

3:23 Adam Oh, yeah. Yeah, and not in that order.

3:25 The Dead 60s We're still working on that one.

3:27 Adam So, and you guys are young, right?

3:29 The Dead 60s Yeah, 22.

3:30 Adam 22.

3:31 Drew That Liverpool accent is so unmistakable. It's very interesting.

3:34 Adam Yeah. And these guys are nice, too. We've found in our dealings with the folks across the pond, it's either it's hit or miss.

3:44 Yeah.

3:45 Adam Either you have the jovial friendly and extra courteous types or you get blur.

3:53 Yeah. Yeah.

3:54 The Dead 60s Just wait till the beer arrives.

3:58 Adam What's that, Drew?

3:59 Drew The last time we had a Liverpool band, I cannot remember who it was, but they were talking about how there's sort of economic hard times for the working class in Liverpool, which is mostly who lives in Liverpool.

4:08 Adam Yeah.

4:09 Drew Is it still struggling there?

4:11 The Dead 60s I'd say it's on the off again now. Yeah. Things are looking up.

4:15 Adam Drew, stop me if I'm wrong, but when you see white people out of work, it's almost quaint. You know what I mean? The guy's wearing the cabbie hat, he pulls the collar up on his blazer, and he's been out of work for six months now.

4:29 Drew He's standing outside a gate that's sort of a fence.

4:32 Adam Chained up. There's a trash can and it's on fire, it's warming himself. I don't know why. When I see anyone darker than me out of work, I get depressed. When I see a white guy do it, it becomes, oh, this guy's going to now write a great novel, I think to myself.

4:47 The Dead 60s It's in the manual, isn't it? Yeah.

4:50 Adam It's like you're watching a movie when people from that region are out of work. Drew, isn't it nice?

4:56 Drew Yeah, absolutely. There's one thing also Adam's missing if you noticed. Last night, you remember the cello I was playing on the arm of the, yeah, I can't do that tonight.

5:06 Adam It got oiled up.

5:07 Drew An engineer ran in here and put it on a mic stand. I listened to your show last night. I will not have Adam bad mouthing the engineers at Westwood.

5:15 Adam Drew had one of his mic stand things was squeaking like it was haunted last night, so they greased it up for him. Greased up just means greased up in this country, by the way. It doesn't mean hand job or anal sex or anything like that.

5:31 The Dead 60s Five-knuckle shuffle.

5:33 Adam Just means greased up.

5:35 That's a good one.

5:36 Drew Five-knuckle shuffle.

5:37 The Dead 60s That's another full-on for you.

5:39 Drew Adam.

5:40 Adam What do you guys have, by the way? We have a snot rocket where you hold one nostril and blow. Do you guys have something good for that? You have a good name for it?

5:50 The Dead 60s No. It's just a kind of an England soccer thing.

5:54 Adam Right. But you don't call it snot rocket. No.

5:57 The Dead 60s I call it the Robbie Fowler, but you wouldn't get that.

5:58 Adam It's a football player. He's a football player.

6:00 The Dead 60s Yeah. All right.

6:01 Adam So you have nothing good for that.

6:03 The Dead 60s No.

6:03 Adam What do you guys, I know you guys have never seen a swimming pool before, but do you have that game Marco Polo?

6:12 The Dead 60s Polo.

6:13 Adam Yeah.

6:13 The Dead 60s We know Polo.

6:14 Adam No, you have Polo, but the game, the game Marco Polo. Well, kids get in a swimming pool, right? Yeah. It's like tag, but it's in a swimming pool? No. One kid closes their eyes and says, Marco, Polo. He swims around trying to find them. You guys don't have that?

6:32 The Dead 60s No, that sounds very odd to me.

6:34 Adam Wow.

6:34 The Dead 60s Very odd.

6:35 Adam That's depressing. You guys don't have pool games. That's sad.

6:38 The Dead 60s We don't have pools.

6:39 Adam That's sadder than not having pool games. True. Imagine coming from a place where white guys were out of work and there's no pools. Wow. Heavy, huh? Devastating. All right. So we're going to hear something from The Dead 60s and just a couple of few. They're going to be playing the big Weenie Roast coming up this Saturday. And also the album, self-titled album, comes out on Tuesday, May 31st. So that will be about a week or so later. All right. Let's see. I see big boobs up here. Emily? 16? Yeah. Hold on. I know you guys don't have an answer to this, but do you think people in England who have pools know what Marco Polo is?

7:25 The Dead 60s I don't think so.

7:25 Adam You don't think so? No.

7:27 The Dead 60s I don't think it's crossed that far. We've got a game called Kirby where you throw a ball against a curb.

7:32 Adam That's it.

7:33 The Dead 60s And if you get over a moving car, you get like 10,000 points. You don't have pools, but we've got loads of roads. We've got concrete pools.

7:42 Adam Drew, should we demonstrate Marco Polo one more time for him?

7:46 Drew With Marco Polo or with Adam Corolla?

7:48 Adam Well, I wanted to have my name changed. You know, instead of Marco Polo, I wanted to be Adam Corolla, but it doesn't make sense to you guys. But do Marco Polo. Just show them how it's played.

7:59 Drew Marco.

7:59 Adam Polo.

8:01 Drew Marco.

8:02 Adam Polo.

8:04 Drew Fish out of water.

8:04 Adam Yeah. See, that's if you think I got up and I'm running around the pool. Again, a pool is a hole with water in it. Yeah. Some of them have lights. A puddle. No. It's like a puddle, but you can't make in it. You can only do number one.

8:21 The Dead 60s Okay. Okay.

8:22 Adam Okay. All right. Emily?

8:26 The Dead 60s Yeah.

8:27 Adam Does it ever get hot in Liverpool?

8:30 The Dead 60s No, not really.

8:31 Adam You guys ever think the name pool is right in the name of your city? And yet you have no pools.

8:36 The Dead 60s Liver is there as well.

8:38 Adam Well, liver is there, but you guys eat a fair amount of liver. No, not really. Well, they're good.

8:43 Drew You have livers.

8:44 Adam You have livers.

8:45 The Dead 60s There are plenty of livers.

8:46 Adam You have livers, but you have no pools. Yeah. Drew.

8:50 Drew Yes.

8:51 Adam That's heavy. That's very, very heavy. The word pool is right in Liverpool yet.

8:57 Drew And they have livers, but no pools.

8:59 Adam Yeah. Yeah.

9:01 Drew Heavy, man.

9:02 Adam And no Marco Polo. I could bring Marco Polo to England.

9:05 The Dead 60s I think you should.

9:06 I think it will take off.

9:07 Adam You see, the one person has their eyes closed, so they're going around Marco and Polo and they tag you.

9:14 The Dead 60s I think you should bring it over. It could be the next big thing.

9:16 Adam I'm doing it. Emily.

9:18 Hi, Adam.

9:19 Adam You're 16?

9:20 Caller Yes, sir.

9:21 Adam You know Marco Polo, right?

9:23 Caller Oh, for sure.

9:24 Adam Okay. Go ahead.

9:27 The Dead 60s Okay.

9:28 Caller Well, I'm afraid of penises extremely.

9:32 Adam You're what?

9:33 Drew I can't hear that. Yeah.

9:35 The Dead 60s What do you have?

9:36 Caller I'm afraid of penises and I need to know how to not be.

9:39 Adam You're afraid of penises. All right.

9:41 Drew Yeah. Fallophobia, that's called.

9:44 Adam It is?

9:44 Drew Believe it or not. Yeah.

9:45 Adam You mean like phallic?

9:47 Drew Yeah.

9:47 Yeah.

9:49 Adam Well, like. I don't say I'm scared of penis, but I think I have a healthy respect for penis. You know what I mean? Like, that's what my dad taught me. It's like you don't fear the penis, son.

10:00 The Dead 60s Yeah, definitely.

10:00 Adam But you always respect it.

10:02 The Dead 60s Yeah. It's not a toy.

10:03 Adam Don't look in the eye. Never run with the penis in the house. You never hand a loaded penis to another man. Always face it. You always hand it balls first if you are going to hand the penis.

10:15 The Dead 60s Don't have it loaded.

10:17 Adam Keep it locked up. All right. Drew?

10:20 Caller Yeah. All right.

10:21 Adam Sorry, buddy. All right, Emily. It says here you have big boobs.

10:25 Caller Oh, yeah.

10:26 Adam What size?

10:28 Caller A very small C, almost a D.

10:31 Adam That's okay. Not by Loveline standards, but that's fine. All right. What happened? Anything bad happened to you we need to know about?

10:39 Drew Right.

10:39 The Dead 60s Yes.

10:41 Caller No. When I was like one and a half, my mom left for three months but she came back.

10:46 Adam That's freaky.

10:48 Drew That's interesting you would bring that up. Why do you bring that one up?

10:50 Caller Well, I don't know just because I haven't seen it recently. We were talking about that recently.

10:54 Drew Okay. Did you have bad dreams or anything, a recurring nightmare, anything of that sort?

11:00 Caller No. I don't believe. I have recurring dreams, but they're always generally good dreams.

11:06 Drew Good dreams. Okay. How old are you again?

11:09 Adam She's 16. When she left, was she picked up in the Oscar Meyer mobile? Hold on, Drew. Let her answer. Let her answer. What's that?

11:18 The Dead 60s No, she wasn't.

11:19 Adam It's a giant hot dog-shaped bus. I thought maybe she would think of penises as taking her mother away. That could have triggered off the whole kind of phobia thing.

11:26 The Dead 60s Yeah.

11:26 Adam Did it for me.

11:27 The Dead 60s Good thought, that. Yeah.

11:28 Adam It's for my dad. He told me to respect the penis. Yes?

11:32 Drew I bet this is something you just get over. I bet it's just to respect Adam's respect. It's a healthy thing. At a certain point, you should be fearful of them.

11:39 Adam True.

11:40 Drew You should be more afraid of what's attached to them.

11:42 Adam Yes. The sack or the males? Huh? What's attached to the penis? The sack or the males?

11:49 Drew Not the sack.

11:50 Adam The males. I'm sorry, Drew. I screwed with your metaphor. How dare you? You want your kids to be scared of, what, motorcycles, snakes, and penii? Yeah. That's about right. Better to have a daughter who's scared of the penis than one who worships it, right? Oh, yes. Can't get enough? Yes. Climbs into a pit with a thousand penis? Okay. Jurassic Dog just like to talk about that. All right. Let's talk to Stacey right here. Stacey?

12:23 The Dead 60s Yeah.

12:25 Adam Seventeen?

12:26 The Dead 60s Yeah. I'm seventeen.

12:28 Adam You got that little girl voice.

12:30 Drew Yes, indeed.

12:31 Adam That spells trouble. What happened?

12:35 The Dead 60s What happened? Well, my problem or?

12:39 Adam Well, let's just talk about what gave you that little girl voice. Molestation. Yes?

12:46 The Dead 60s No, actually, I live with my grandparents and my mom lives in Florida and I've never met my dad. They don't even know if my dad's black or not.

12:57 Adam Oh, really?

12:58 Drew Why did your mom dump you off with your grandparents?

13:00 Adam I would just assume he is black, by the way. That's the way I did with my dad, even though he was around.

13:06 The Dead 60s My mom gave me to my grandparents when I was like one because we couldn't handle it. She duct taped me to the wall.

13:13 Drew Oh, my goodness. So that's what the trauma is. She duct taped you to the wall.

13:16 Adam Well, it could have just been a frat stunt. Did you get drunk and pass out? No.

13:22 Drew Is she a drug addict, your mom?

13:24 The Dead 60s My mom, she's kind of a whore, like a whore.

13:30 Adam Yeah. You really shouldn't say it about your mom unless she's actually a whore. But if she is a whore, then you got to call her a whore because it's like you have to state your profession.

13:40 Caller She is. She actually is.

13:43 Adam Well, now, Stacey.

13:43 The Dead 60s She's been married like eight times.

13:45 Adam Okay. So your grandparents brought you up. What color are you?

13:49 The Dead 60s I'm white.

13:50 Adam Oh, you're white? Well, what makes you think your dad may be black?

13:55 The Dead 60s Because my mom was sleeping with a lot of black guys and then I came up.

14:00 Adam Yeah. Well, but you're white.

14:02 The Dead 60s Yeah.

14:03 Adam Well, you would look.

14:05 Drew Don't mess with the details.

14:06 Adam You would look black, wouldn't you?

14:09 The Dead 60s Not necessarily. I know a lot of people that are half black.

14:12 Adam No. Let me tell you something. No. Hold on. Let me explain something. The black is the dominant gene. You take a quart of white paint, you put one drop of black in it, it turns a different color. You know what I'm saying? Just 50-50, you're going to look black. That's the way it works. It's powerful. Us white guys, we got nothing. We got no genes. Blacks, I got all the genes. Stacey?

14:36 The Dead 60s Yeah.

14:36 Adam Yeah. You would know it. What color is your hair?

14:41 The Dead 60s My hair is like...

14:44 Drew Is white?

14:44 The Dead 60s It's brownish and it's really frizzy and it's like I got to throw a lot. I got to straighten my hair all the time.

14:51 Adam Okay. All right. Well, what's your question?

14:55 The Dead 60s Well, see, I grew up with this guy since I was two years old. I've known him for like ever. We became best friends and stuff. And just recently, like a month ago, we both came out and told each other we loved each other and stuff like that. And we ended up losing our virginity together. And...

15:15 Drew How old are you again?

15:16 Adam Seventeen. Write it down, Drew. Come on, buddy. Get a pad there. Go ahead.

15:23 The Dead 60s And, like, two weeks ago, I recently found out I'm pregnant. And, like, I haven't heard from him.

15:28 Adam Oh, my God. Hold on. I think her dad's black now. Changed my vote. Go ahead, Stace. And you haven't been able to...

15:36 The Dead 60s Yeah, I can't find him. I haven't heard from him. I don't know where he is.

15:42 Drew I'm... Shockingly, you've recreated the family circumstances of your own.

15:46 Adam Yeah.

15:47 Drew Shockingly.

15:48 Adam Your kid's not going to know his dad or her dad, just like you didn't know your dad. Yeah. That's how people work. I'm going to go on a minor tirade about this in a second. Let's just help Stacey if we could. So what is the question for us, Stacey?

16:04 The Dead 60s I don't know what to do. I mean, I've always been a good girl, and my parents have always trusted me and stuff like that.

16:11 Adam And your grandparents?

16:13 The Dead 60s My grandparents, yeah. My grandparents, and I don't know what I'm supposed to do.

16:18 Drew All right.

16:19 Adam How far along?

16:20 Drew Talk to your parents. Talk to your grandparents.

16:22 Adam How far along are you?

16:24 The Dead 60s Well, it's only been two weeks since I found out.

16:27 Adam Since you found out you were pregnant?

16:29 The Dead 60s And this happened a month ago, so.

16:31 Adam All right. How about you go to, you got any Planned Parenthood type place around there?

16:37 The Dead 60s Nothing I know of. I've never really had to look into something like this.

16:41 Adam Right. Well, now it's time. She lives in Wisconsin.

16:45 Drew I'm sure there's Planned Parenthood, and if you feel comfortable, bring it up with your grandmother and get some support from them and help them. Let you help them, I always say this, get their support as you sort of sort your way through this. It's going to be tough.

16:58 Adam Yeah.

16:58 Drew Well, you've created exactly what you lived through.

17:01 Adam Do you want to get an abortion?

17:04 The Dead 60s Not really, but I don't really want a kid right now either.

17:07 Adam All right.

17:08 The Dead 60s But I really don't, I don't want to like do something like that.

17:12 Adam Right. I know. But this is why, see, this is the tough part about being an adult. There's a whole bunch of stuff like engineer Chris. It's like he wants a degree, but he really doesn't want to go to school. What do you do? He's torn. You know what I mean? I'd like money, but I don't want to work. I don't want to have an abortion, but I don't want to have a kid and I'm pregnant. These decisions are tough to make when you're in your teens. They're very difficult. At 29, by the way, Chris, you should sort them out. But in your teens, these are tough decisions.

17:47 Drew But that's why you don't make them as a teenager. You have your parents or an adult help you through them, because they're just overwhelming. Your brain isn't prepared to handle these kinds of things.

17:55 Adam All right, Drew, what have we learned from doing this show? What do we know? What is the one thing we've learned from doing this show?

18:04 Drew What's the one thing?

18:05 Adam The one thing we've learned is that history repeats itself. You show me, show me.

18:09 Drew Family history.

18:11 Adam And it repeats itself almost down to the month, like people call us who are thinking about getting divorced, they've been married for three years, their parents got divorced when they were three. You know, it just repeats itself. And why shouldn't it? I mean, what else would humans do? If you think about it.

18:28 Drew Not repeat it. That's what they would do. I know. But they would repeat it in uncanny accuracy.

18:33 Adam But let alone.

18:33 Drew Here she is, I'm a good girl, I'm not interested in sex, now all of a sudden I'm pregnant magically with a guy who doesn't exist. Right. How'd that happen?

18:40 Adam Right, and I've never known my father, of course. All right, this is what happens. All I'm asking, see, this country is very unrealistic. We want to treat everyone exactly the same. We don't want to focus on people that may be in danger. Put it this way, here's the deal. Drew, if your kids repeat what they grew up with, our society will be fine. That means two parents that love them very much, a dad that worries a little too much, but they send them to a nice school and they get a good education and everything's paid for and they go on to be successful, yet neurotic professionals. All right, fine, that's fine. But if we have a history of the stasis of the world repeating itself, society comes off its hinges, right? We got single moms, we got welfare states, we got grandparents raising kids, we have abuse, we have substance abuse, we have teen pregnancy. That's what they're going to do. They're going to do it in a good way, they're going to do it in a bad way. All we ask is that we focus on those stasis of the world and not let them repeat it. And everyone thinks that's unfair to Stacey. Get hold of Stacey at 15, at 13, at 11 and say, look, here's what you can look forward to, we're going to help you. And you know what? If you're 15, we're putting you on birth control. Because you know what? You got about 90% chance of being pregnant by the time you get to the junior year of high school. Everyone looks at that as some sort of abuse of the rights of Stacey. We're helping her, just like a doctor would. And then, I want everyone to get in these gray jumpsuits. And because, and then I'm going to replace Jesus with my face, my giant head on a cross, Drew. And everyone will worship me. Corolla! And it all starts with Marco Polo being replaced with Adam Corolla. But why can't we do that? Don't we know where Stacey's going? And then what about this kid she craps out in six months? Don't we know where that kid's going? Haven't we seen it? Isn't that kid going to get raised by his grandparents? Or great-grandparents in this case? All right. Very depressing. What do they do? What do they do in England with this stuff? Do they just pretend it doesn't exist?

20:52 The Dead 60s Yeah, it kind of presents itself. You used to take a tumble down the stairs, to be honest with you.

20:56 Adam They just fall downstairs, Drew. Do they have public service announcements? Do they have a Planned Parenthood?

21:08 Yeah, there's all that kind of stuff going on.

21:10 Adam Does it work?

21:11 The Dead 60s No, not really.

21:12 Adam Not really. And is it a touchy subject? The government doesn't want to get involved?

21:17 The Dead 60s No one wants to talk about it? It's not that widespread.

21:21 It's kind of just ignored.

21:23 Adam Yeah, so they just sort of live and let live.

21:25 Drew Yeah.

21:26 Adam So I mean, the government's role is build roads and then build prisons and build rehab clinics so that when these people start spinning out, we'll have a place to put them, and keep building a police force so we can contain these people later on.

21:40 Drew That's the attitude.

21:41 Adam All right. It makes perfect sense, Drew, right?

21:44 Drew Of course.

21:45 Adam All right. We will take ourselves a little break. The Dead 60s in here tonight. Going to be playing the world famous K-Rock Weenie Rose. Coming up this Saturday with some big, big name bands. Yeah. Yeah. And some surprise bands too. Yeah. Yeah. You know what the surprise band is this year?

22:06 What the headline is?

22:07 Adam No, there's a surprise band.

22:09 Oh, no. I don't know. I haven't heard yet.

22:10 Adam I can tell you what that is. You want me to tell you?

22:12 Yeah.

22:13 Adam The surprise this year is no surprise band.

22:15 That's a good thing.

22:16 Adam Yeah. People are going to be pissed off yet surprised. Yeah. Surprised. All right. We will. Is there a surprise band, Chris? Do you know anything?

22:24 Drew Yeah. Yeah, there is. There is.

22:25 Adam There is.

22:26 Drew I don't know if it's been announced, though.

22:28 Adam Oh, really? Yeah.

22:30 Drew So I don't want to say anything.

22:32 Adam How do you know there's a surprise band, Drew?

22:34 Drew Tell me, Dr. Drew. I know. You do?

22:36 Adam All right.

22:37 Drew I'll tell you up there. Cool.

22:38 Adam You will? All right.

22:40 Drew Maybe it's not a surprise.

22:41 Adam Okay. You're sure you want to tell me right now?

22:45 Drew No.

22:45 Adam Okay. The Dead 60s, we'll hear something off the new CD and we'll be right back after this.

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23:14 Caller Three, two, one, go.

23:18 Adam Hey, everybody. It's Love Line. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew is in New York City. Why, engineer Chris?

23:28 Because somebody dropped a nickel.

23:29 Adam Yeah. Chris, you don't have to bang stuff. Hold still. Try it one more time. You ready? Don't talk. Are you potted down? Okay. Dr. Drew in New York City tonight. Why, engineer Chris?

23:48 Because somebody dropped a nickel.

23:50 Adam That's right. Matt and Charlie here tonight from The Dead 60s. They're going to be playing the Weenie Roast coming up this Saturday. We're going to hear something off the new CD, which is coming out Tuesday, the 31st. Matt, who's your favorite band?

24:11 The Dead 60s Dinosaur Jr. I think.

24:12 Adam Yeah.

24:13 The Dead 60s The early stuff.

24:14 Adam Early stuff.

24:15 The Dead 60s Kind of like the, you know.

24:17 Adam Hey, Drew.

24:18 Drew Yeah.

24:18 Adam I was coaching the guys on how to be cool and I told them Dinosaur Jr. is a good band to name when people ask what your favorite band is or who your influences are because no one knows the Dinosaur Jr. song, but everyone's heard of the band.

24:31 Drew It sounds cool.

24:32 Adam You sound cool and you always sound cooler when people have heard of the band but don't know any songs and you seem like an expert on it. You know what I mean? And they'll never question you. See? It's better. So I'm going to stop using Journey and Trickster is my two bands. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, people know. People know.

24:59 Drew Use Humble Pie.

25:00 Adam Yeah. I'll use Humble Pie. Yeah. Yeah. Dinosaur Jr. Anyone know a Dinosaur Jr. song? No. No. But great band.

25:06 The Dead 60s I think that's the people who phone in.

25:10 Adam All right. Let's ask.

25:11 The Dead 60s I have like a little vote for a poll.

25:12 Adam I'm going to start off with Becky. Becky?

25:15 Hello.

25:16 Adam 26? Can you name a Dinosaur Jr. song?

25:19 No, I can't. But I've heard of them.

25:21 Adam You know, I'm seeing that makes me so much cooler than you because I'm into somebody that you've heard of, but you don't know any of their songs.

25:30 Yeah.

25:30 Adam Hold on. I'm just going down the road here, Drew. I'm just going to see what I can find. Holly?

25:34 Yeah.

25:35 Adam Have you heard of Dinosaur Jr.?

25:37 Yes, I have.

25:38 Adam Can you name a song?

25:39 I can't name a song, but I've heard of it.

25:41 Adam Perfect. Perfect. You see how cool we are.

25:43 The Dead 60s Yeah. I love it.

25:44 Adam People just running to the computer. Greta?

25:48 The Dead 60s Yeah.

25:49 Adam 18?

25:50 The Dead 60s Yeah.

25:50 Adam Have you heard of Dinosaur Jr.?

25:53 The Dead 60s No.

25:53 Drew All right.

25:54 Adam See? We still have our cool quotient here because now they have to explain to them.

25:58 Drew You don't want everyone to know about your band. Yeah.

26:00 Adam That's right. Sarah?

26:03 Yeah.

26:04 Adam Dinosaur Jr. Have you heard of the band?

26:06 I wish I could say I have.

26:07 It's the first time.

26:08 Drew But it sounds cool, doesn't it?

26:10 Oh, yeah.

26:10 Adam All right. Watch me try it on her. Sarah?

26:15 It's me again.

26:16 Adam Yeah. Ask me who my favorite band is.

26:19 Who was your favorite band?

26:22 Adam I listened to everything, but right now I'm listening to a lot of Dinosaur Jr. See? Do you see how cool that was?

26:29 So cool.

26:30 Adam If we were together, she'd be giving me oral right now. Sam?

26:35 Yeah.

26:35 Adam You know the band Dinosaur Jr.?

26:37 No, I haven't heard of them.

26:38 Adam Wow. We're getting a cold streak here. We got one more to try. Still, you still get to be cool because the deal is either they haven't heard of them, or they have, but they can't name a song. Matt?

26:50 Caller Yeah.

26:51 Adam Dinosaur Jr.?

26:52 Caller I own one of their CDs.

26:54 Adam Oh, you do? Oh, this is a real fun.

26:57 Drew Cheating.

26:57 Caller But I couldn't name a song for you. Really?

27:01 Adam Awesome. Awesome because they're one of my favorite bands. I'm listening to a lot of them right now. That's what I listen to in the car. Okay? All right. Good man.

27:10 Drew Name a song for us, Adam?

27:11 Adam Hey, man. You know what? I can tell you an era I like. I like the early stuff. Now, the thing is when you run into Matt, it's like you've been saying you graduated from Colgate your whole life, never getting called on it, and then you meet an alumni and all of a sudden the jigs up. He's got a Dinosaur Jr. album, but he doesn't know a song. So again, so what do we do? We just talked to six people. Half of them had heard of the band and couldn't name a song. The other half hadn't heard of them, hence the perfect band. Perfect. All right. So that's your new band. All right. Let's try it again. You guys have a pretty eclectic mix of music. Who's your biggest influence musically?

27:54 The Dead 60s Dinosaur Jr., of course.

27:56 Adam OK.

27:57 The Dead 60s But mainly the B-sides.

27:59 Adam Wow. Yeah, no.

28:00 The Dead 60s Yeah, this stuff's pretty cool, too.

28:02 Adam Right on.

28:03 The Dead 60s Do you want a real answer now? I mean, are we still playing?

28:07 Adam No, we're playing. We're not interested in a real answer. Yeah, no. Becky?

28:11 Yeah.

28:11 Adam You're 26. Sorry, I just had to go through everyone and find out if they knew who died in 16 or what.

28:16 Caller I don't feel so bad now.

28:17 Adam All right. What's up?

28:18 Caller No one else. I was just calling to respond to that girl who's scared of penises. And I just wanted to say that when I was 16, I was petrified of penises.

28:30 Adam Oh, really?

28:31 Drew That's a good thing, right?

28:33 Caller Yeah. I was a virgin and they're really, they're intimidating when you haven't seen a lot of them. And when you haven't, you know, you just see them in pornos and they look so scary and big. They're not. So I wanted to tell her that just, you know, give it a few more years and when she gets more comfortable, you know, with sexuality and herself, then she'll be fine.

28:53 Adam Okay. All right. So you've gotten over the hump. Oh, yeah.

28:57 Caller I love penises now.

28:59 Adam All right.

29:00 Caller I think a lot of girls are scared.

29:01 Adam Right.

29:02 Drew Oh, fair enough.

29:03 Adam Would you say you crave penis now? Are you married?

29:07 No.

29:09 Adam So the world is your penis. All right. Drew, write that down. I got it. All right, Becky. Thank you. All right. All right. Let's hear a little something from Dinosaur Jr. Let's hear a little something from the Dead 60s. Yes, Chris? Yeah. You ready to rock, brother? Let's go. Yeah. This is from the self-titled CD for song called Riot Radio. Yeah, that's The Dead 60s, everybody. New CD is going to be out on the 31st of May. But if you can't wait that long to hear the guys, you just go out to the Weenie Roast this Saturday. Irvine, well, don't go out there because the tickets are all sold out. They sold out fast too.

32:14 Drew Did you find out who the special guest was? The surprise band?

32:18 Adam Dinosaur Jr. Yeah.

32:20 The Dead 60s Yeah.

32:21 Adam No, I don't know. Like I said, the surprise this year is no surprise guest, which would be a disappointment, but still a surprise.

32:29 The Dead 60s Yeah.

32:29 Adam You would be surprised.

32:30 The Dead 60s It does exactly what it says on the tin.

32:31 Adam Yeah. You came home and let's say a pipe burst in your house and your whole house was flooded. You would be surprised. But it doesn't always have to be positive.

32:40 The Dead 60s It doesn't have to be good, does it?

32:41 Adam No, no. You could get hit by a meteor. You would be surprised. You would be dead in surprise. It's not always a good thing. Everyone thinks surprise party. No, it's not always a party, gentlemen. Evie Drew. All right. Let's talk to, let's see, Greta. Greta?

33:01 The Dead 60s Hi.

33:02 Adam 18?

33:03 The Dead 60s Yeah.

33:04 Adam What's up, baby doll?

33:07 The Dead 60s Well, I've been dating my boyfriend for about seven, eight months. And the whole time, I've never gotten him to finish.

33:20 Drew And what means had you been using?

33:23 The Dead 60s Well, we've been all the way. I've tried a lot of combination between manual and oral stimulation and nothing really seems to quite go the extra mile for him. Mm-hmm.

33:38 Adam Well, it's tough on the psyche, Drew, but easy on the upholstery. You know what I'm saying? Psychologically, it's difficult for a young lady. But as far, you know, if I was to try to sort of paint a happy picture of this, I'd say, you know, the upholstery is none the worst for wear. Yes, Greta? Yes. So is he on anything? Is he on steroids or anything?

34:07 The Dead 60s No, he's not on anything. Sometimes I get pretty upset about it. He tries to make me feel better by saying that since he was 14, he's always done it for himself a lot. I asked him to do it for me once before so I could see what he was doing. Maybe he was doing something just really different than what he liked and he just goes so very fast.

34:36 I think I can keep up.

34:38 Adam Yeah. Now it's like playing the spoons. It's hard to do it on someone else's thigh. You got to do it on your own.

34:46 Yeah.

34:47 Adam That's heavy too, Drew. That's really heavy.

34:50 Caller Adam.

34:51 Drew Corolla. Getting too heavy.

34:54 Adam Heavy. Polo.

34:57 The Dead 60s All right.

34:57 Adam So I can't believe you guys don't have Marco Polo.

35:00 The Dead 60s No.

35:00 Adam I could take over your country with Marco Polo.

35:03 Caller It would be awesome.

35:04 Adam We'd have tournaments. I'd be champion. It would be awesome.

35:07 The Dead 60s It would be cool.

35:08 Adam And here's the thing. I figure with a country where they're into cricket and soccer and Australian rules football and all that crap, I could sell a Marco Polo easily. That could be a sport. It could easily be a sport over there.

35:22 The Dead 60s I think I'll take it over and introduce myself.

35:24 Adam No, no, you won't.

35:25 Drew No, you will not.

35:27 The Dead 60s We're going to go back and get sponsors.

35:30 Adam Greta?

35:31 The Dead 60s Yeah.

35:31 Adam All right. So, yeah. Well, how long have you guys been having sex?

35:39 The Dead 60s Only about a month.

35:40 Adam Mm-hmm. And he doesn't-

35:42 Drew They're not having sex. They're just oral and hand.

35:46 Adam Oh, I thought she said they went all the way.

35:49 The Dead 60s Yes.

35:49 Drew Oh, they did. Okay.

35:50 The Dead 60s They've had sex.

35:51 Adam They've had sex.

35:52 The Dead 60s All right.

35:53 Adam All right. So, here's the thing. What- When he does it for himself, what position is he in? Is he on his back? Yeah. Okay. So, here's the first thing. He is going to have to be in the exact same position he's in when he's doing it for himself for him to achieve it with you in the room. You understand? So, it's like, if he's having sex and he's on top of you, that's not going to work. He's got to be in his position doing his thing.

36:22 Caller Okay.

36:22 Adam Know what I'm saying?

36:24 Caller Yeah.

36:24 Adam And then, you have to sort of start slowly weaving yourself into this. Drew, do you think this is horrible advice?

36:34 Drew I don't have a clear sense of what's going on here.

36:38 Adam Here's the deal. We have this call once every three and a half years, which is Guy masturbates and he starts at age 13 or 14.

36:48 Caller Yeah. Yeah.

36:48 Drew There's that thing.

36:49 Adam Guy hooks up with a chick at 18 for the first time. He has at that point been masturbating for five and a half years. He has masturbated 72,000 times. He has an orgasm 72,000 times, 74,500 if you count nocturnal emissions with no woman in the room. Now, he's got a chick in the room and even though he's excited that there's a chick in the room, the physical sensation is totally foreign to him. It's like masturbation is what he knows.

37:20 The Dead 60s That's just a clear case of stage fright, I think.

37:24 Adam Stage fright meets muscle memory. Like this is how I do it. Yeah. Thank you, Drew.

37:32 Drew It's like playing the piano.

37:33 Adam It is. Here's the thing. You can't go into these different positions with these different sensations and expect the same outcome if you have a good or if you're small percentage of the guys that have five years of doing this under their belt, so to speak. I say he does it while she's in the room and she just slowly incorporates herself to eventually, he's able to hand over the baton and let her carry it for a while. Yes, Drew, yes? Heavy, yes?

38:03 Drew Heavy, yes.

38:04 Adam All right, all right. The Dead 60s in studio tonight, going to be at the Weenie Roast coming up this Saturday. Also, new CD coming out, 31st. That is a couple Tuesdays from now. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

38:32 Caller Two, one, go.

38:34 Adam Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew is in New York City tonight. Why, engineer Chris?

38:44 Caller Because somebody dropped a nickel.

38:46 Adam Still always an extra beef.

38:48 The Dead 60s It was better that time.

38:49 Adam It was a lot better.

38:51 The Dead 60s Towards the end of the show, I think you'll have it on the board.

38:53 Adam Listen, the show ends at midnight, but about 12.15, we should be right on. Yeah. Yeah. The Dead 60s in the night, Matt and Charlie representing the band. We will hear something else off the CD in the 11 o'clock hour, and they're going to meet the Weenie Rose this weekend, and all that good stuff. All right. Let's see. Having fantasies and dreams about being with girls. Never has. Jessica. Jessica? Jessica? 19?

39:25 Caller Yeah.

39:26 Adam Yeah? Speak up. Hello?

39:30 Caller Hello? I'm sorry.

39:32 Adam All right. Phone's bad. No good. No good. Sarah.

39:35 Caller Hey.

39:35 Adam I know you had a different question dating same guy for eight years. You want to know if it's time to move on? But I really had my heart set on a lesbian fantasy question. So could we go ahead and change yours to that?

39:50 Caller I wish I could say that for you, but unfortunately, I'm all about the penises.

39:55 Drew Still, what's the topic for tonight?

39:58 Caller Well, okay. First, earlier, that girl who got pregnant, she says she's pregnant, she doesn't know what to do, and you were saying it runs in the family. I was adopted and I found my birth parents last year, and my birth dad was adopted. I said ever since I knew that, since I was little, I was like, I'm not doing that. So I went to Planned Parenthood, and I got condoms, and I tested the guy, and this is the guy I've been with for eight years. My question is...

40:26 Adam And do you have any kids?

40:28 Caller No.

40:28 Adam Good.

40:29 Caller Fabulous. And I said I'm not going to do it, I'm not going to have that carried on.

40:33 Adam Yeah. And let me just say this, there's a lot of ways in which to measure intelligence, you know, SAT scores and college entry, this and that. This is intelligence to me, when it's the very essence of intelligence, when you figure out what's happening to you, what has happened to you, what is happening to your family, and you say, not to me. I'm going to go get some... I understand the way nature wants me to go, and the way the stars want me to go. I'm going to go get some condoms and some birth control, and it's not going to happen to me. That is a certain kind of smarts I wish everybody had.

41:06 The Dead 60s It's like a case of joining the dots, isn't it?

41:10 Caller I think that, unfortunately, our children are not educated enough. When they say, oh, I didn't think it was going to happen to me, you think, well, didn't you learn sex ed? You know, the sperm goes into the egg.

41:21 Adam Well, look, having some old bitty with a chain on her glasses, draw a picture on a chalkboard about something that looks like ovaries, is not going to do it to a screwed up 15-year-old who's acting out.

41:31 Drew Not only that, we have abstinence-only education for the most part in a lot of the schools.

41:35 Adam Yeah, sure, that's going to work.

41:38 Caller I had to find a place on my own. On my own, you know, it's like a side place that's very quiet and it's not the doctor. You know, you pay out of your pocket just to do what you can. For what? Like a Planned Parenthood kind of thing. So I think there should be more options.

41:51 Adam For what? What, do you have an abortion?

41:53 Caller No, for going to get my boyfriend tested and everything. You know, to make sure I was doing it safe.

41:59 Adam All right, well anyway, so Sarah...

42:02 Caller I went to this guy for eight years.

42:03 Adam Eight years.

42:04 Caller And I met him, my mom had cancer, my adoptive mom rather, when I was 17. And my boyfriend ditched me, he was dating this girl, I don't think he wanted anything to do with somebody who had a mom with cancer. And then I met my boyfriend.

42:20 Drew What was that?

42:22 Adam He was dating this girl. I don't know if she's talking about her or she's talking about he was dating another girl and her whose mom had cancer.

42:30 Drew I see.

42:30 Adam I don't know.

42:31 Sarah?

42:33 Caller The boy that I was seeing right when I found out my mom had cancer, he's like, he left me pretty much. I've dated all these crappy guys. Well, anyway, so I met this guy, after this guy, and his grandfather was dying, and so we kind of related. My mom was dying, his grandfather was dying, first his grandfather died, then my mom died, and we became connected. I then-

42:59 Adam Did you meet him at the hospital or something, or you just met him and it was just a happy coincidence that a family member was dying?

43:05 Caller I met him at the driver's ed.

43:06 Drew Nice.

43:07 Adam Well, you know what I mean. I mean serendipity. I don't mean, you know what I'm saying.

43:12 Caller I hear you.

43:12 Adam Common ground.

43:14 Caller So I think I felt-

43:16 Adam Common burial ground. Sacred common burial ground.

43:20 Caller Right.

43:21 Adam Okay, go ahead.

43:22 Caller I lost my virginity.

43:23 Adam Okay.

43:23 Drew This guy.

43:24 Caller And did all the protection, everything.

43:27 Adam Sure.

43:28 Caller And it's been eight years. I went two years after my mom died. I went through depression. I gained weight. I didn't do anything. I smoked pot all the time. I just, I really was depressed.

43:40 Adam All right. Well, hold on a second.

43:41 Caller Job, you know.

43:42 Adam Sarah, hold on. It's only two hour show. So let's get this crack a lack in here. Does this guy want to get married?

43:50 Caller You know, I'm not sure because-

43:52 Adam Well, you should know after eight years.

43:56 Caller His parents were divorced when he was young.

43:58 Adam I don't care. Okay. He doesn't want to get married. Okay, fine. We have to cut through the fog all the time because ladies are BSing us as well as BSing themselves.

44:08 Drew Themselves, more worse than all of themselves.

44:10 Adam Right. His parents got divorced. Please.

44:14 Caller Why would he talk about it to me like he wants to?

44:17 Adam Yeah, look, here's the deal. Guys do what they want to do, ultimately. If you're not getting married, it's because he doesn't want to get married. Not because he says he wants to get married, but he's torn. His parents got divorced and he's scared he's going to make the same BS. He's scared. He's scared. Good.

44:34 Drew Well, look. How old is he?

44:35 Caller 24.

44:37 Adam Scared is a worst reason. I'd rather, you know, it better he just doesn't want to get married. If he's scared of it, he's never going to get married. So forget it. Move on.

44:49 Caller How do you move on after eight years? You know, you've done the same thing every year.

44:53 Adam All right. But look at you. How well are you doing? How great has it been?

44:57 Caller Well, you know, you're 25. You're just trying to find yourself, you know, how you're going to live and who you're going to be.

45:03 Adam All right. How can you find yourself dragging around the same anchor for the last eight years?

45:08 Drew Right. That's an interesting question.

45:09 Adam Heavy.

45:10 Drew Heavy.

45:11 Adam Heavy.

45:12 Caller Do I give it a break or do I just, that's it?

45:15 Drew No, wait a minute. We shouldn't be telling her what to do. What do you mean?

45:17 Adam It's my job. I don't care. Everyone jump off a cliff or bridge. Excuse me.

45:24 Caller I'm going to technical college right now.

45:26 Adam Good.

45:26 Drew You didn't go to college.

45:27 Adam She's going to technical college. What are you learning how to do? Computers?

45:30 Caller I'm learning how to do floral designing.

45:33 Adam Oh, really? Good. Yeah. All right.

45:35 Caller I think we're working in the food business.

45:37 Adam No, it's important to learn how to stick things into that green styrofoam.

45:42 Drew The fast food business?

45:44 Caller What did you say?

45:45 Adam All right, Drew, leave her alone. Here's the thing. They've been together for eight years. He's not wanting to get married. She's wanting to get married. She feels stagnant.

45:53 Drew I know, but she has to ask him, are you just not at the right time for marriage or am I not the right person for marriage or can you tell?

46:00 Adam Andrew, but what about the fact that you've been with one person your entire life?

46:04 Drew No, it's a bad idea.

46:05 Adam You lost your virginity to them.

46:06 Drew Right. You need to break out and find out who you are and date other people and that sort of thing. But it'd be interesting. She needs to know what this guy's up to. Most guys just need to be at a certain place in their real life to consider marriage. It really isn't about who they're with.

46:17 Adam The grave.

46:19 Drew They have to understand who they are in the world.

46:20 Adam No, that's right. Dead. True. Yeah. P-whipped. That's when you understood you were a victim of the P-whipping. That's when you knew it was time to get married, right, Drew?

46:33 Drew That's right.

46:34 Adam All right. We will take ourselves a little break. Dead 60s here tonight and we'll be right back after this.

46:57 Caller If you need help.

47:00 Adam Yeah. I don't think they even like Marco Polo over there in Asia because, you know, I think he took their spices or something like that. You know, for me, I don't care have to bag it. You know what I mean? Adam Corolla. All right.

47:11 Drew It's cool. Sounds cool.

47:16 Adam Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew is in New York City tonight. Why, engineer Chris?

47:25 Caller Because somebody dropped a nickel.

47:27 The Dead 60s Yeah.

47:28 Drew That was bongo.

47:29 The Dead 60s That was unimportant.

47:30 Adam Dead Nuts on. Wow. Nailed that one. I'm not even going to try it again. You don't mess with that one. The Dead 60s are here tonight. We'll hear something else from Matt and Charlie off the new CD of the same title. We will hop back on the phones and we'll speak to Lauren. Lauren.

47:52 Hello.

47:53 Adam 22.

47:54 Yeah.

47:54 Adam You're in the Dinosaur Jr. Yes, I am. And you can name a song.

47:59 Caller Yes, I can.

48:00 Adam Big Whoop. Big Whoop. Look. I give you an hour to come up with a popular band song. Come on.

48:06 The Dead 60s Feeling safe in the net.

48:07 Caller She's so proud of herself.

48:09 The Dead 60s She's got the laptop out there.

48:10 Adam Big deal. Please. She's so proud of herself. She's going to name a song from Dinosaur Jr. All right. Where are we going? Let's see. Had sex. Oh, yeah. Let's talk to Sam. Sam.

48:23 Hey, what's up?

48:24 Adam 17.

48:27 Yeah.

48:27 Adam You're forced to have sex with an eight-year-old when you were four?

48:32 Yeah.

48:33 Adam Who did this to you?

48:35 I was over at my grandparents' house, but they weren't involved. I was just downstairs watching TV, and some of my grandparents, I guess, friends, grandsons or whatever came downstairs, and they had this girl with them, and they made me get naked.

48:52 Drew Wait. Who made you do this? I'm still unclear.

48:54 Some of the kids there.

48:56 Adam More kids.

48:57 Drew What does that mean? Eight-year-old or other eight-year-olds?

48:59 Yeah. I think they were actually teenagers. I was four. It's really foggy. All I remember is that they made me get naked, and they took pictures of me.

49:07 Caller Oh, boy.

49:09 Drew I wonder if that's adults doing that.

49:10 Adam Hold on a second. Perfectly normal, perfectly healthy.

49:13 Drew Yeah. So what's the question?

49:14 Yeah. I'm a sex addict, and I'm also a recovering alcoholic and a drug addict.

49:20 Drew All right.

49:20 Adam Well, hold on a second, though.

49:22 Drew That drama sets that all up. Yeah.

49:24 Adam The one time, probably not, but coming from a family that thought it's a good idea to associate with these kind of characters, that's probably what did it.

49:32 Drew Just suffice it to say that in my life, my professional life, if somebody needs treatment in-patient, my chemical dependency program, the probability is nearly 100 percent that they have a trauma history and you're describing some significant trauma, and sexual traumas like that not only set you up for addiction, they set you up for sexual addictions.

49:50 Adam But Drew, everyone who you see, you look at as a trauma victim, right?

49:55 Drew No, no, no. This is a good one.

49:57 Adam No, this is one, but there's nobody who comes before you, who you don't decide is a trauma victim.

50:02 Drew Well, it's pretty easy to, it's so common in our culture, it's hard to find someone who has it.

50:08 Adam You can make something stick. So Sam.

50:11 Yes.

50:12 Adam What else went on in your life beside this?

50:16 My parents got divorced. My mom was extremely emotionally and physically abused. There we go.

50:22 Adam Yeah. Well, that's more. I mean, here's the thing. This one incident that happened when you were young is not a good thing for any child to experience. But that in and of itself may not have made you into what you are today. But having the abusive mom and the chaotic family, they all got together and conspired against you. So now you're where you're at and what are you going to do about it?

50:47 Caller I don't know. That's why I called you guys. I don't know who to bring this up with or who to talk about it with.

50:54 Drew Hold on. Did you say you were recovering?

50:56 Caller Yeah. I just got out of rehab a couple months ago.

50:58 Drew All right. So you brought this all up in treatment, I hope.

51:01 Caller No, I didn't deal with any of this because I was dealing with my chemical dependency and stuff.

51:06 Drew All right. Here's the deal. You have a sponsor now, right?

51:09 Caller Yeah.

51:10 Drew All right. Begin to talk about this with your sponsor. In all probability, he will tell you just to put that aside for a little while. Get your ass in a seat, take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth.

51:22 Adam That's heavy, Drew.

51:23 Drew That's heavy, huh? Adam. Corolla.

51:28 Adam Hold on. Take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth. All right. Not up your ass though, huh?

51:35 Drew Not up your ass. What I like best about the fact that you're repeating that is, I probably said that about 37 times in the show. You never have heard it for some reason.

51:42 Adam Well, I had cotton in my ears.

51:44 Drew Cotton in your ears, yeah.

51:45 Adam By the way, you didn't say-

51:47 Drew It didn't go in your mouth though.

51:48 Adam You didn't say it as much as you butchered it, Drew. Let's be honest.

51:50 Drew You're right.

51:51 Adam Take the snot out of your beers and put it up your nose. Oh, Christ. Wait a minute. Just screw that up.

51:57 Drew All right.

51:57 Adam Come on, buddy.

51:58 Drew The fact is that trauma material, the experiential and emotional aspects of looking into that trauma can be so evocative that it can destabilize your recovery. So there will be a time. You will absolutely need to get into that in your recovery, but talk to your sponsor a little bit about it and he will decide on the timing of that. You may also want to see a psychiatrist, a psychologist going forward.

52:20 Adam All right. And remember, it takes all kinds.

52:24 Drew It does indeed.

52:25 Adam Do they have that saying in English?

52:26 Caller Yeah, they certainly do.

52:28 Adam We had it here, but we kind of lost it. We don't say it anymore.

52:31 Caller No, that's pretty popular over at Overbuckle.

52:34 Adam It takes all kinds.

52:35 Caller Yeah, yeah.

52:35 Adam Now see, I would reckon there's not a 22, 23-year-old out here that probably even has heard of that. Drew, what do you think?

52:45 Drew Yeah, that age group, you're right. I think you're right.

52:46 Adam Engineer Chris.

52:48 Caller What's that?

52:49 Adam If you hadn't heard me say it 126 times tonight, had you heard it takes all kinds before you met me?

52:56 Caller Actually, no, I heard it from here first, I think.

52:58 Adam Okay. Very honest. Yeah. Thank you. Now close your mic.

53:03 The Dead 60s He's done a really good picture over there.

53:05 Caller I've just seen.

53:06 Adam See, he's coming in with a gun one night. By the way, that will be the end of me. If I get a hostage like a situation. Drew, if I had done my math right, you'll be out of town chasing a nickel. That will be my last thought is why can't you shoot Drew? That will be the last thing out of my mouth. All right. Let's talk to Jake, who's 17. Jake?

53:28 Caller Hey.

53:29 Adam What's up?

53:31 Caller Just want to say you guys are great. I listen to you guys almost every night.

53:34 Adam Thanks.

53:35 Caller I'm calling in because I heard you guys talking about sex ed and how it's taught by old hacks and whatever. I'm actually a peer health educator. I go to kids in my own school, Berkeley High, and teach them how to tie condoms and about contraception.

53:50 Adam Really? Well, you're calling from Berkeley, which is a very progressive part.

53:57 Caller It kind of discredits things.

53:58 Adam Yeah, a lot of lefties and gays over there trying to move the agenda. Anything goes. Well, the whole idea is, it's really a bunch of gays trying to get other guys who are straight in bed. They just call them up tight and eventually everyone drops their guard and they drink wine coolers and turns into a big eff fest. That's the agenda. They don't tell you that. But that's the agenda over there. But they're progressive and some of the progressive ideas are pretty good. Like, look, people are going to have sex, let's educate them and stop pretending like it doesn't exist. Jake, how do you get to become a peer educator?

54:32 Caller The program was there when I came to the school, but it's like you apply and then it's a peer-run program. So each year the peers that keep going to the program, they don't graduate. You can have new ones next year.

54:43 Adam Do you get a windbreaker?

54:45 Caller We have a sweatshirt.

54:47 Adam A sweatshirt. I would need a windbreaker and possibly ones with the zipper-up hood that builds in that you never take out. Yeah.

54:54 The Dead 60s Yeah, yeah.

54:56 Adam Hey.

54:58 Caller We have the fake visa slogan, the priceless thing.

55:03 Adam How's it go?

55:04 Caller The sex, zero dollars, condom, zero dollars. Knowing that you're STD-free, priceless.

55:10 Adam Yeah. Solid. That's cool. Solid. Although later when you get out of high school, you realize it was lame. But solid. Solid right now. Solid. All right, buddy. So you're doing the Lord's work over there.

55:24 Caller It's good work.

55:25 Adam Good. I'm glad to hear that. I'm sure it helps, right?

55:30 Caller I think it does because Berkeley has one of the lowest teen pregnancy rates in all California.

55:34 The Dead 60s Is that because everyone's gay though?

55:36 Adam Yes. Yes. It's all cornhole. Lord knows they try, but you know it's just dude on dude. Try as they might. No, it's a very good point. Here's the thing. I think most teenagers want to have sex and most teenagers don't want to get pregnant. But they ain't smart. I mean, it's sort of like, here's the deal, Drew. Most teenagers want to eat pizza and hot fudge sundaes, but most teenagers don't want to get fat. But that doesn't mean they're not going to eat the pizza and the hot fudge sundae. They're just going to eat, right?

56:18 Drew That's right.

56:19 Adam It's kind of the same with sex. Like, I don't want to get pregnant, but I'm really horny and there's no condom, so let's eat the pizza. And that's it. That's the way they work. And if you can kind of get in between them and go, look, you could have your pizza and not get pregnant, then they would do it. But no one really intervenes and no one gets in between. And once in a while, someone tries to intervene, and somebody pipes up and says, you're forcing them to have sex, which you're not doing, condoning something. Doesn't mean you're forcing them to do it. And there are the teenagers who are gonna get laid and gonna have sex at the high school age and those who aren't, let's face it. There's no, and anyone who watches MTV, anyone who's been outside in society in the last 10 years does not need to be reminded that there's condoms or anything else out there. I mean, there's enough sexuality out there that's already being sold. They just need, they need to actually have the condoms and the information on hand. And I, and Drew, where else does this retarded model work? You know what I mean?

57:28 Drew In what sense?

57:29 Adam Well, that education about something somehow forces you to do it.

57:34 Drew Oh, listen, you've heard me say that before. I mean, if that were the, if that logic were accurate, then we should not talk to kids about driving fast. We should not talk to them about drugs and alcohol, because if we discuss it, that'll make them do it.

57:47 Adam Right. So, so the retarded right wing in this country says, oh, no, we have to tell our kids to stay away from drugs. We have to keep doing all these don't do drugs and stop taking drugs because we have to force them not to do drugs. But if we tell them about condoms and about sex and all that, that's going to make them do it. So, the point is, is which one is it? I mean, you got to pick a direction and go with it. According to their logic, they shouldn't be bringing up drugs either, because that's just going to make people go, oh, wait a minute, I haven't done coke in a while. That's right. I got to do some coke. Yeah. No, I'm not using that as an example, Drew. I'm saying, I haven't done coke in a while. I got to do some coke. You understand? Because I think the guys were confused. All right. Let's talk to Nicole, because I think we got a lesbian on our hands here.

58:36 Caller Nicole?

58:37 Adam 25?

58:39 Caller Hi.

58:39 Adam Hey. What's up, Perky? It's going good.

58:43 Caller Good. So I heard you wanted a lesbian question.

58:46 Adam All right. Yeah. By the way, I'm really into Dinosaur Jr. You're into Dinosaur Jr.?

58:51 Caller I don't even know what Dinosaur Jr. is. I'm sorry.

58:55 Adam That's still cool. That's still a good answer. Still makes me cool. Here's the other thing too. Watch this. You should check them out. See, that made me cool too. I know something you don't know.

59:06 The Dead 60s Especially the early stuff.

59:07 Adam Check out the early, check out the early, the middle, and the stuff they haven't done yet in the future. Build a time machine and check out, not the next album, but the one after that. All right. Go ahead, Nicole.

59:21 Caller Right on. So basically, I am, in general, when I'm masturbating, I think about girls and it's, you know, it's like an immediate, you know, orgasm. And then, but in, and I've gotten with girls, but it's been more on, you know, drunk nights. And it's kind of just like happened to, you know, it just happened. And then in general, I don't, I don't find myself attracted to girls. So I'm very attracted to men, love them, but I'm just wondering in your professional opinions, what is that categorize me as?

59:57 The Dead 60s I don't know. I think, can I just jump in there? I think it's kind of a case of the, you know, forbidden fruit type theory, you know? I mean, I might be completely wrong. I don't know. I mean, I'm not a professional.

1:00:09 Adam Yeah.

1:00:10 The Dead 60s You know, I just got told to come in.

1:00:12 Adam Well, now I'm going to have to ask you to leave, man. Yeah.

1:00:16 Caller Forbidden fruit.

1:00:18 Adam Well, you know, when you get drunk, you start getting into that sort of naughty stuff that you know you're not supposed to do. You eat bad stuff, you drink bad stuff, and you lick bad stuff. Yeah. You know, maybe there is an element of that. Plus, I don't know. Is there a 25-year-old chick who's born and raised in Los Angeles who isn't just sort of malleable sexually after a few wine coolers?

1:00:40 Drew I think an awful lot of women experience arousal, sexual arousal, and sort of I don't want to say attraction, but sexual feelings about fantasies around women. Let's face it, guys, men are sort of gross. I don't think so. Not at all. You like being with men, you like, but your fantasies may revolve around women. It doesn't mean anything.

1:01:03 Caller It doesn't mean a thing, huh?

1:01:05 Drew No, unless you actually want to have sex with a woman.

1:01:08 Adam Well, and also, hold on, quiet down. The taboo side of this that Matt brought up, I kind of like that. I think there's a part about women, there's a sort of naughty side that they have that's a turn on to them. Because for men, it's pretty much about just straight physical manipulation. We don't have a bunch of naughty thoughts. We have horny thoughts.

1:01:29 Caller You kind of know what you want to do.

1:01:31 Adam Right. And then it's like, how much is this going to cost? That's our next stop. But for women, it's like, I know I shouldn't be doing this, but this is really naughty. And part of the naughty part, it sort of bleeds into the horny part because they don't really have a pure physical part.

1:01:47 The Dead 60s Yeah. That's a good point. I like that point.

1:01:50 Adam No. Well, I'm just embellishing. I picked up your point and I'm running with it.

1:01:54 The Dead 60s You make it sound so much better than the way I did, though.

1:01:56 Adam I'm making your point poignant. All right. So Nicole, don't freak out. It's cool.

1:02:02 Drew Don't freak out.

1:02:04 Caller I don't completely agree with the whole, like, girls not being completely sexual because, I mean, I had, you know...

1:02:10 Adam Didn't say sexual.

1:02:12 Caller No. Well, you just said that, you know, usually guys are more of, like, the physical and women are more probably emotional, right?

1:02:20 Adam Well, there's a larger mental component to it.

1:02:24 Caller Right. But here's the thing, okay? I've been sawing sex for about three months and I'm going absolutely insane. So, I mean, I feel like a guy right now.

1:02:33 Adam You've been without sex for three months.

1:02:36 Caller Right.

1:02:37 Drew Again, being without sex doesn't mean that you're sexual and that you want to have sex and you're driven that way, doesn't mean your sexual experience is somehow now the same as a male. Yes, you want it more because you've been without it, but the experience is still yours. Thank you. Notice that the women have a much greater diversity of experiences. The X chromosome is very different one from another. The Y chromosome is the thing that makes us male, all pretty much the same thing. There's not a lot of diversity in the genetic material there.

1:03:06 Adam Nicole, have you masturbated much in the last three months?

1:03:10 Oh, yeah.

1:03:11 Adam How often? How often do you think?

1:03:14 Caller Oh, at least once a day, if not a couple of times.

1:03:17 Adam Oh, really? A couple of times a day.

1:03:19 The Dead 60s Oh, healthy. Yeah.

1:03:20 Drew So she's more of the masculine, sort of male masculine or androgenized version of the female.

1:03:25 The Dead 60s Yeah.

1:03:25 Caller That's what I was thinking is like, I mean, I consider myself a feminine human being, but at the same time-

1:03:31 Adam Sure, you're a delicate flower who pokes at herself three times a day.

1:03:37 Drew Pokes, pokes.

1:03:38 Caller But maybe it's, yeah, but maybe it's just, maybe it is like a domination kind of thing.

1:03:44 Drew No, no, it's not domination. It's just you're androgenized. You're under the influence of male sexual kinds of biologies.

1:03:51 Adam Yeah.

1:03:51 Drew Makes you driven.

1:03:52 Adam No, you do run into, what is it, Drew? What do you think? 5%, 10% of 25-year-old women have almost a sort of male type approach or drive.

1:04:02 Drew Yes.

1:04:03 Adam Horny, I need a mask, I need something.

1:04:05 Drew Yeah.

1:04:06 Adam Yes. Drew, don't say yes anymore. It's creeping me out. Holly?

1:04:12 Yeah.

1:04:13 Adam You're 25?

1:04:14 Caller Yes.

1:04:15 Adam What's up, baby doll?

1:04:17 Caller Well, I have a problem since I've had my kids. I have a three-year-old and a one-year-old, and my sex drive is just completely diminished. I've had children, and I used to be a real freaky dinky girl.

1:04:35 Drew But that's very, very common. That's very common. Have you talked to your doctor about this?

1:04:39 Caller No. Actually, I have. Yeah. And I'm bipolar.

1:04:45 Drew What meds you on?

1:04:46 Caller I'm on Zyprexa, and I've been on an assortment of different other mood stabilizers.

1:04:52 Drew All right. Well, those psychotropic meds can shut down your sex drive, too.

1:04:55 Caller So.

1:04:57 Caller Well, my doctor says that this one in particular should increase it by some means.

1:05:04 Drew Will Butrin?

1:05:05 Caller No, no, not well. I was on Will Butrin. He stopped that because I'm a rapid cycling.

1:05:11 Drew Okay. Which one should increase it?

1:05:13 Caller He said that the Zyprexa.

1:05:15 Drew Yeah, it can. But not really increase it, but it can also get in the way of it, too. But look, the fact is you should talk to your gynecologist also about maybe being on some hormones.

1:05:24 Caller My insurance doesn't allow me to talk to a gynecologist.

1:05:27 Drew All right. Talk to your general doctor then about being on some hormones.

1:05:30 Adam What if you have a friend who's a gynecologist and you just want to talk casually, not about your vagina? Could you do that?

1:05:36 Caller I wish. I really do. I've gone for my Pepsmer, my biannual, and they just pretty much brush it aside and there's no problem.

1:05:49 Adam How often do you have sex?

1:05:52 Caller I used to have sex every day, every other day, but now it's down to every two weeks maybe.

1:05:58 Adam How's your husband holding up?

1:06:00 Caller My husband's really upset.

1:06:02 Adam He's upset? How's his girlfriend? Is she taking it well? Is she cool? All right, those are the silent, they suffer in silence, the girls. Guy's not getting laid at home, he brings all this tension into the office. She can't please him orally anymore in the bathroom. It's what you call vicious cycle. It's a cycle. I went through it. Drew, how many times you've been through it?

1:06:26 Drew We've talked about it many times. It's not for you, for me, you.

1:06:29 Adam Yeah, no, for you, me, you. Listen, my wife doesn't listen to the show. That's the beauty of her. The beauty of me is I'm totally free. I've called my dad a pussy on the radio 170 times. He doesn't listen to the program. No one I know listens to the radio, so I can speak freely. Now, once in a while, a cooze, who knows my wife, does the, Adam said, nng, nng, nng, nng, nng, nng, you people need to kill yourselves. Oh, you evil, horrible people. But my wife, she don't listen to the show. I don't, my family doesn't listen to the show. I say what I want.

1:06:59 Drew It's awesome.

1:07:00 Adam Awesome.

1:07:01 Caller Same here, really.

1:07:04 Adam Holly?

1:07:05 Caller Yeah?

1:07:06 Adam You into Dinosaur Jr.?

1:07:08 Caller I, I, actually, I just heard him right now on the radio and they're pretty awesome.

1:07:12 The Dead 60s What song was it?

1:07:13 Adam Oh, yeah. This isn't Dinosaur Jr. in studio, by the way.

1:07:17 Caller Oh, I know. It was, oh, god. I've been sitting here listening for the past Three days?

1:07:24 Adam Yeah, she's been on hold for 84 minutes. All right. Holly, how about Drew? What about this? How about her sort of kickstarting herself a little bit?

1:07:35 Caller Me?

1:07:35 Adam Yeah.

1:07:36 Drew Well, that's the birth control pills. There are certain pills sometimes will help with that certain hormonal.

1:07:40 Caller I wish. I mean, I would do that. I would totally be up for that, but my husband's the kind of guy that if I start to take birth control pills, because he just got a vasectomy that he'd be wondering what was up.

1:07:53 Drew Hey, what's up is you're talking to your doctor and he tried to-

1:07:55 Adam Go, Drew.

1:07:56 Drew Yeah, kicks out your sex drive. He's upset. He's blaming you for this biological problem you're having. He's got to get behind your solution too.

1:08:03 Caller I mean, I totally feel like it's my fault though. I really feel that. I'm just like-

1:08:08 Drew That's sad.

1:08:08 Adam Well, listen, you're in love with the guy, right? He's okay. You're not punishing him.

1:08:13 Caller I love him to death. He's just great.

1:08:15 Adam All right. Well, first off, give him a mercy BJ every once in a while. I do. I do. Okay. Thank you. Let me explain something to you ladies. And I mean this and I mean this and I hope you take this in the spirit in which it's intended. But you chicks aren't used to doing stuff you don't want to do as guys. You're born knowing you're going to have a whole life of doing what you don't want to do and then you're going to die eight years earlier than a chick and you pay more for car insurance all along. That's what we know as guys. Women are sort of like, I just know that women don't get their ass kicked that much. Growing up, guys get their ass kicked. When you're eight years old, you got football coaches yelling at you, calling you mama's boy and telling you to stop crying and get down and do some pushups and stuff. It starts with physical stuff you don't want to do and then later on you get your ass kicked around work or whatever. Women, yeah, they don't want to get up in the morning and take the kids off to school or whatever. But these sort of labors are oftentimes labors of love. Do you know what I'm saying?

1:09:21 Drew Yep.

1:09:22 Adam Drew, you with me?

1:09:23 Drew I'm with you.

1:09:24 Adam I can tell you the people who do more things that they don't want to do are the people that get further along in life. And that's why guys build dams. Women would get three days into a dam building project and go, screw this. I don't want to do this. It's hot. It's dusty. And my friend died because they fell off the crane and now freaked out. I'm going home. I don't want to do this. I'm not going to do it. And then I think we've embraced that a little as a society. Like, I don't do what you don't want to. Meanwhile, this guy's getting up every morning at 630 and going to a job. He can't stand. That's halfway across town. Give him a little BJ every once in a while. Let him hump on you.

1:10:07 The Dead 60s That's not a lot to ask, really, is it? No.

1:10:10 Adam You love the guy? Hold still for a minute. Maybe that'll kickstart things in the right direction, along with a couple of little pharmaceuticals. Yes, Drew? Thank you. You're with me on my thing about guys doing stuff they don't want to do all day, right?

1:10:25 Drew Yes, very much.

1:10:26 Adam Look, I don't want to get surreal, but that whole speech about stuff guys don't want to do, I didn't want to do that. I did not want to do that. I really didn't.

1:10:35 Drew That's surreal.

1:10:36 Adam Is that surreal? All right. The Dead 60s here tonight, they're going to be at the Weenie Roast. They don't want to be there. I'm going to be there. I sure as hell don't want to be there. We're just going to do it. No one wants to be there, but we're guys, we got to do it. We'll take a break. We don't want to come back, but we have to. We're guys, we have to come back. That's what we do. Check when we come back. She'd be tired. She'd go to bed. We'll take ourselves a little break, and we'll be right back after this.

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1:11:28 Adam Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Matt and Charlie here tonight from The Dead 60s. They got a CD coming out Tuesday, May 31st. And they're gonna beat the Weenie Roast this Saturday in fabulous Irvine, California. We, let's see, we're gonna hear another song from the band. Let's take one call here first, and then we'll hear another song. Jessica?

1:11:56 Yeah. Yes.

1:11:58 Adam What's up?

1:12:01 I've been having a lot of lesbian dreams and fantasies, and I had a steady boyfriend for a long time. And I was really, I don't know, I was very curious and I asked him if he would be interested in maybe having a threesome with another girl. And he said no. And I'm not sure what's going on with me. I just, I've never done anything with another girl. I'm just very curious.

1:12:28 Drew How old are you again? You're how old? And you like this relationship you're in with the guy?

1:12:33 We actually just broke up.

1:12:35 Drew Well, that was your attempt at doing that.

1:12:38 Adam Yeah.

1:12:38 Drew That's sort of what the plan was.

1:12:39 Adam Well, maybe it was his plan to try to work it up to a foursome. I'll do that sometimes. Threesome? I'm listening, but keep talking.

1:12:47 The Dead 60s Let's go one-bass.

1:12:49 Adam Yeah. I'm going to need three chicks and my penis.

1:12:53 I wasn't interested in any other people at all.

1:12:56 Adam Yeah. Yeah. See, too intimate for you. You're chaotic.

1:13:00 Drew Exactly.

1:13:00 Adam He's too intimate.

1:13:01 Drew Or you just weren't into him.

1:13:03 Adam Or you're not into him. Either way, when a chick suggests a threesome, I mean, it's good news and bad news, which is the good news is you get a threesome. And the bad news is you guys are going to break up because no chick who's really into a guy is going to do that. Even if she says she is, she's looking for chaos.

1:13:20 Drew Right.

1:13:20 Adam So it's sort of like the bad news is the plane is crashing. The good news is you're going to get a BJ from the stewardess. Yeah, exactly.

1:13:31 The Dead 60s It's a smoke screen, isn't it?

1:13:34 Adam Yeah. But as smoke screens go, it's a good one.

1:13:37 The Dead 60s Yeah. And you know, happy ending.

1:13:41 Adam Yeah, so Jessica, what's up with your past? Your dad split. He cheated on your mom. There's some chaos. What's going on?

1:13:51 I never really knew my dad. I got raised by my mom. He got arrested for being a drug lord.

1:13:58 Caller Drug lord.

1:13:59 Adam Well, it's better and push your drug lord.

1:14:02 Caller Yeah, that's pretty. That's pretty.

1:14:04 Adam Anytime you got the word lord in the title, you're not doing too bad. Yeah.

1:14:08 Caller I've never met drug lord.

1:14:09 Adam Gay lord's a little tough. Yeah.

1:14:10 The Dead 60s Yeah, that's a hard one.

1:14:14 Adam Drug lord, huh?

1:14:16 Yeah, he was in prison for a long time.

1:14:18 Adam Well, did you guys lead a lavish lifestyle before they caught up to him?

1:14:23 The Dead 60s But they had a swimming pool.

1:14:24 Adam Did you guys have a swimming pool?

1:14:26 The Dead 60s I bet they played that Marco Polo game.

1:14:28 Adam Did you ever play Marco Polo?

1:14:31 I don't think so. I don't know. I was very small when he got caught.

1:14:34 Adam Okay. But the pool, they didn't take the pool with them, did they?

1:14:38 All his stuff got taken.

1:14:39 Adam Oh, really? You know the game Marco Polo?

1:14:42 Yeah.

1:14:43 Adam Okay. We're going to change that to Adam Corolla.

1:14:47 Drew Okay.

1:14:48 Adam Okay. I can tell she's in love with it. You know how that would go, Jessica?

1:14:55 Caller You say Adam, I say Corolla.

1:14:56 Adam You want to try it?

1:14:58 Caller Okay.

1:14:58 Caller Adam Corolla, Adam Corolla.

1:15:04 Adam Yeah. That's good. All right. Now bring that to your next pool party because summer is heating up. Oh, yeah. All right. So, yeah, what's the deal? So chaotic. Yes. Drug lord, dad, crazy thing, too intimate. This is a guy who really loved you and freaked you out and he had to get rid of him.

1:15:23 Drew That's right.

1:15:24 We break up for other reasons, but yeah.

1:15:26 Drew What was the reason?

1:15:30 I don't know. He and I just weren't clicking the way we used to. I felt kind of ignored a lot of the time.

1:15:36 Adam You weren't clicking.

1:15:38 Drew That's why you had that.

1:15:39 Adam Those aren't other reasons. No, this became too intimate and you sabotaged it.

1:15:44 Drew Yeah.

1:15:44 Adam It's easy.

1:15:45 Okay.

1:15:46 Adam You broke up with him?

1:15:48 Yeah.

1:15:48 Adam Yeah, of course. All right. He wasn't a bad enough boy. That was the problem. He's a decent guy, right?

1:15:56 He's a very nice guy.

1:15:57 Adam Yeah. You can't deal with it.

1:15:59 Drew You can't have that. You got to have somebody that's a drug lover.

1:16:01 Adam Yeah, like your old dad. That's how it works. Now, look, laugh all you want. It's real easy to figure out, which is, here's the thing. There's two choices, chicks like Jessica have, especially 21. Now, when she's 38 and she's been through the wringer and been thrice, divorced and all this stuff, that's fine. But at 21, here's her choices. She either needs super chaotic bad boy guy, or she needs nice guy who's going to drive her nuts. Eventually, at 21, you want to be with a nice guy, but you can't tolerate it. You will then look for things to screw with the guy, like let's have a threesome or cheat with one of his friends, see if you can get him fired up. Anything to have him explode on you, or eventually you just break up with him. That's right. All right, Jessica, so what's the next move for you?

1:16:49 Caller I have no idea.

1:16:51 Adam Yeah. Where's dad? Is he still in the joint?

1:16:54 Caller No, I don't really see him very often.

1:16:56 Adam All right, but he's out of the joint?

1:16:58 Caller Yeah.

1:16:58 Adam All right. And mom, how are you doing with her?

1:17:01 Caller Oh, she's a psycho, but I'm staying with her. I moved out and she asked me to move back in to help her out, to take care of my grandmother and stuff like that.

1:17:09 Adam All right. So bad times. So you need a gig, you need a life, you need some independence and you probably should be on your own for a little while and some therapy. How about you just go on your own? How about you take six months off and you just focus on your career or whatever it is?

1:17:26 Caller Okay. I'm a college student.

1:17:27 Adam Okay.

1:17:28 Drew Where do you go? What do you study?

1:17:31 Caller Psychology at the moment. Where? I'm at American River.

1:17:38 Drew Oh, of course.

1:17:40 Caller I haven't decided on a major. I haven't declared a major, but I'm taking a lot of psychology classes and I'm leading.

1:17:44 Adam American River. They had a great football team. What the hell is American River? That's not junior college, is it?

1:17:54 Caller Yeah, it is.

1:17:54 Adam Oh, all right. Come on, baby. Who are you kidding?

1:17:58 Drew Snap into focus.

1:17:59 Adam Snaps into focus. You're wasting your time. Let's get a good job.

1:18:03 Caller I've got a transfer going. I'm almost able to transfer to a full year.

1:18:07 Adam Right. Chris has been transferring from his junior college since I was in the 8th grade and I'm older than he is. I don't know how that math works. Chris, you're going to be graduating at the end of the year by the way? Still not sure?

1:18:19 Caller I don't know, man. At the end of next semester, I'll have my transfer.

1:18:22 Adam Yeah. All right. You and everyone else who goes to junior college, you never actually moves on. All right. Then what?

1:18:30 Caller Then I'm going to go to a four year. I'm going to see if UC Berkeley will take me.

1:18:35 Adam No, they're not. They don't take people from junior college.

1:18:39 Caller They do. They took my friend actually. If you for good enough grades.

1:18:42 Adam 100 percent Iroquois Indian.

1:18:45 Caller Come on. I'm half Native American.

1:18:47 Adam You are?

1:18:48 Caller You're in.

1:18:49 Adam Just go over there and demand that they accept you, or you'll make it rain. I don't know how it goes. All right. Good. Half Native American, you're fine. What's your dad deal?

1:19:00 Caller Peyote?

1:19:02 Caller No, he's not Native American.

1:19:03 Adam He's not. Your mom's full-blown American Indian?

1:19:08 Caller Yeah.

1:19:09 Adam Really? 100 percent? Like Cher?

1:19:12 Caller Yeah.

1:19:13 Adam Really? Is your mom an alcoholic?

1:19:16 Caller Not an alcoholic. She does drink some, but.

1:19:20 Adam All right. Take care of her and take care of yourself, and don't hang out with any bad boys. No dating for six months.

1:19:26 Caller Okay.

1:19:27 Adam Focus on your studies.

1:19:28 Drew Also, if you're into psychology, you might want to get some therapy because if you're going to really pursue that career, you're going to have to do that anyways.

1:19:34 Adam Yeah. That would be awesome. You could focus on your studies and be the only person in junior college who was focusing on their studies. It'd be quite a novelty, Drew. I don't know if they'd know what to make of it. They'd probably discipline her at first, and eventually they'd grow used to it. Yes, Drew?

1:19:50 Drew Yes.

1:19:50 Adam Don't you think it would throw the faculty into a tailspin if someone was actually focusing on their studies?

1:19:55 Drew They would be rather concerned.

1:19:56 Adam I think they would. A dangerous trend, I think they would label it. Again, I know everyone has had an ass full of me making fun at junior college, but just look around, everybody. Look around. Find me someone who's graduated and moved on. Engineer Chris, I know it's got to be tough for you, buddy.

1:20:17 Caller It's tough, man. It's tough.

1:20:18 Adam I know. But this is like a junior college intervention. All right. That's what there should be. Forget drugs, junior college. I got busted on some of my buddies. Dude, you're 33. You've been going to junior college for 11 years now. Do you understand? You're not graduating. Let's go get a job. Get off the beanbag and let's go. You have a job, but you live at home.

1:20:44 Caller Right.

1:20:45 Adam And you're going to junior college and you're going to transfer to a four-year.

1:20:49 Caller Yes. Right.

1:20:50 Adam But you're 29.

1:20:51 Caller Right. Well, no.

1:20:53 Adam You're not going to make it this year, right?

1:20:55 Caller I don't know.

1:20:55 Adam Maybe. Maybe.

1:20:56 Caller I'm 28, dude.

1:20:57 Adam 28. All right. The over under is 34. That's just for the transfer.

1:21:02 Caller I thought you said I can't.

1:21:04 Caller I got to be done by 30, right?

1:21:06 Adam You got to be done by 30. And that's the other thing. If I'm at junior college, I clean house. Anyone over 30 is not a faculty. You're gone.

1:21:14 Drew Yeah.

1:21:14 Adam Yeah. Drew, would you do that?

1:21:16 Drew Absolutely.

1:21:17 Adam Thanks, buddy. Drew hates junior college, too, secretly, but he can't really talk too much about it on the radio because he's supposed to be the voice of reason. All right. We should, but Drew, you would kill yourself if any of your kids went to junior college.

1:21:30 Drew Am I right? Yeah.

1:21:31 Adam You would. Really, you would, right?

1:21:34 Caller Let's go to a song, dude.

1:21:35 Drew Yeah.

1:21:35 Adam Sorry, buddy. Yeah, we should hear a song from the Dead 60s. We're running a little bit late, but these guys are fast. They're peppy. They play upbeat music. They play finger-popping music, Drew. That's what I like about the band.

1:21:48 Drew And they like Sinister Junior.

1:21:49 Adam And foot tapping. Yeah. All right. This one, you ready? Yep. This one's called Loaded Gun. Yeah, The Dead 60s, everybody. They're gonna be playing at the Weenie Roast also. CD is coming out on Tuesday, May 31st. Exciting, everybody. Another good song from the band. We'll take a quick break, be right back after this. Please hold.

1:25:12 Caller And in three, two, one, go.

1:25:15 Adam Hey, y'all. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew is in New York City tonight. Why, engineer Chris?

1:25:24 Caller Because somebody dropped a nickel.

1:25:25 Adam Yeah.

1:25:28 The Dead 60s And I was cooking.

1:25:31 Adam Yeah. The Dead 60s in studio tonight. Going to be at the Weenie Roast this weekend, and the new CD coming out on 31st of May. Let's just go in order of who got here first. Jessica.

1:25:45 Caller Hi.

1:25:46 Adam You're 19.

1:25:48 Caller Yeah.

1:25:48 Adam You fantasize about girls?

1:25:52 Caller Kind of. In my dreams, I don't think about this during the day. But when I sleep, I have dreams about being with women, and I've never been with a woman.

1:26:04 Adam All right. Well, look, we've talked about this. I don't want to brush it under the carpet, but it's really no big deal. This is what women do. It doesn't mean anything.

1:26:14 Drew Right.

1:26:15 Adam You know, I have dreams about unicorns and Pegasuses, and it doesn't mean anything other than I'm gay.

1:26:26 Caller Can I add something?

1:26:27 Adam You realize you could dream that you were performing oral on a guy and you would be less gay than having dreams about unicorns? You understand that? It's interesting, isn't it?

1:26:36 Drew Go ahead and ask that question.

1:26:37 The Dead 60s I'm OK then.

1:26:39 Caller Earlier you were saying that history repeats itself?

1:26:43 Drew Yeah, family histories, yes.

1:26:44 Caller Yeah, right. My mom had her first kid when she was 16.

1:26:48 Caller She has six kids.

1:26:49 Caller There's four dads.

1:26:50 Caller Four what?

1:26:52 Adam Four dads.

1:26:52 Caller My sister had her first kid when she was 16. Has three kids now. She's only 20. Two dads. Got her GED. I'm going to college. I'm the first one in like two family lines, like my grandma, my grandparents, and my parents. I'm the first one to get their diploma, and I'm in college, and I have a really good job.

1:27:14 Adam And you have no kids.

1:27:15 Caller I just wanted to add that.

1:27:16 Adam Smart.

1:27:16 Drew Breaking out.

1:27:17 Adam Good, baby doll.

1:27:18 Drew That's great.

1:27:19 Adam That's it. Go ahead, everyone. Feel free to defy your family's horrible trajectory they've sent you sailing down life in. You know what I mean?

1:27:29 Drew The really interesting thing, though, is that you have to be on your guard all the time. That you're going to consciously say to yourself, I'm not going to do that, but realize you're going to have to watch yourself constantly. Because magically, you will find ways to make choices that put yourself in that same position.

1:27:43 Adam Right. Raymond.

1:27:45 Caller What's up?

1:27:46 Adam You're 25. What's up?

1:27:48 Caller Yeah, I'm just on about time when I was 14 and basically just had sex with my aunt one night.

1:27:56 Drew How old was your aunt?

1:27:58 Caller I think she was 26.

1:28:00 Drew That's a little weird, but it's not a devastation.

1:28:03 Adam Now, when you say your aunt, was it someone you knew very well and knew since birth, or is it somebody you'd met as an adolescent?

1:28:12 Caller No, no, no. I knew her when I was about maybe nine, ten.

1:28:20 Drew No, no, no, Adam. No, no, no. How dare you?

1:28:22 Adam Yeah, I know. You have to say no eight times. You didn't meet the woman until you're 10.

1:28:28 Drew And then reported that you've met her since you were a child. Okay, here we go.

1:28:32 Caller Yeah.

1:28:33 Adam All right. So anyway, so what's up?

1:28:36 Caller I want to know when is it? Well, I want it to take for a person to just get over it, you know? And not just that, but...

1:28:44 Adam Twenty-six days.

1:28:45 Caller I expect myself later on because I've got some funky stuff and I don't know.

1:28:51 Drew What do you mean?

1:28:54 Caller Okay, put it bluntly, I've done bestiality, I've done it with both male and female dogs and...

1:29:03 Adam Did she say male? Hold on, did she say male and female dogs?

1:29:07 Caller Yeah.

1:29:10 Drew Were you neglected for a long time when you were a child?

1:29:13 Caller Well, not neglected, no. It's just thing is all 94 was, well, even before that, when I was like two years before that, I was even curious about dogs. I'm not too sure if it was the dogs first or my aunt, but...

1:29:30 Adam Wait a minute.

1:29:32 Drew Drew. Yeah.

1:29:34 Adam Is this bogus? I can't tell, because...

1:29:37 Drew I don't think it is, because it's hard to create the kind of quality he just did, which was he equated his aunt with a dog. You know, that's pretty imaginative for somebody that doesn't really understand this.

1:29:49 Adam Yeah.

1:29:49 Drew And that people with zoophilia sometimes can't differentiate, you know, sort of animals and people. They just are, you know, people just a little more of a hassle.

1:29:58 Adam Well, everyone's outraged. I have to say this, just to be clear where I stand. Everyone gets outraged about people having sex with dogs. But as a dog, there are many things you could do. You could be sniffing out the explosives at an airport. You could be a police dog having to chase people of color all up and down the streets and getting kicked at.

1:30:21 Drew Pulling a sled.

1:30:22 Adam You could be pulling a fat lesbian Eskimo through some frozen tundra for 2200 miles before you just came to exposure and had somebody had your other dogs eat you. I mean, at least you're getting some here. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah.

1:30:40 Drew I mean, the other thing is it's outrageous. It's a horrible thing, but we hear about people abusing children all night long on this show and people don't get outraged over that.

1:30:48 Adam Right, right. People really worry about the dogs. And I meant nothing racist at all when I said chasing people of color. I that's I, you know, I think that was clear. Raymond. Yeah. So you sound quite disturbed. This may be a bogus call, but you still sound like a very disturbed person anyway.

1:31:10 Caller Hey, I wish it was a bogus time.

1:31:13 Caller No, this.

1:31:14 Adam What do you do? How's your here's here's, I guess, my question. Do you ever think about doing anything that would sort of be considered criminal crossing the line, so to speak?

1:31:26 Caller Once in a while, but I know better. My mom has been still, it sounds stupid, my mom has been still moral to me, cannot be anything criminal, but still, you know, basically, when I was around that age, 12, 14, I was dealing with a parent who was terminally ill and that was just my escape.

1:31:45 Drew The dogs were the escape?

1:31:47 Caller Well, not just the dogs, but heck, I would try to find an escape of anything. I would dive myself into a computer, go online or play games or...

1:31:56 Adam All right, or F the pooch. And Alex, so Raymond, you've had a tough life. You've had a hard life. It seems like a little therapy would be in order.

1:32:06 Drew Yeah, why not a little treatment, come on.

1:32:08 Adam Yeah, you're not a stupid guy. You got things going for you, you're young.

1:32:12 Drew You're also, you're not responsible for what's been happening to you. You've got some things, some very heavy things that have happened, some behaviors have emerged as a result. You were victimized by a family member. There's some things that need to be sorted out here. It's not because you're a horrible person, it's because the circumstances were rough.

1:32:29 Adam Yeah, and here's the other thing too, everybody. You have choice. You're young, you're 25, you could take this to your grave and just be a weirdo your entire life, or you could get yourself a little help, do a little counseling, and get things straightened out. Drew.

1:32:44 Drew Yeah.

1:32:45 Adam I'm going to tell you people have no money for counseling and no whatever. You can start by listening to classical music and going on long walks. First thing you do.

1:32:54 Drew There's always a 12-step program, there's always county mental health facilities wherever you are.

1:32:59 Adam That's right. All right, let's take ourselves a little break. We'll be right back after this.

1:33:22 Drew 3, 2, 1, go.

1:33:25 Adam Well, that's the show, y'all. I want to thank Matt and Charlie from coming in here from the Dead 60s. A delight. Cheers. Thank you. Cheers.

1:33:34 Drew Drew. And a fan of Dinosaur Jr. Yeah.

1:33:37 Adam Early stuff.

1:33:38 The Dead 60s I didn't know I was a fan until I came on this show, and now I realize I am a fan.

1:33:41 Adam Well, that's what-

1:33:42 The Dead 60s But only of the early stuff.

1:33:43 Adam That's what you're listening to right now.

1:33:44 The Dead 60s Yeah. Yeah.

1:33:45 Adam Although you listen to everything.

1:33:47 The Dead 60s Yeah. But mainly Dinosaur Jr. Mainly Dinosaur Jr. Yeah.

1:33:51 Adam The Alkaline Trio is in here tomorrow night, and then MXPX is in here on Thursday, and until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying Mahalo.

1:34:04 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or the station. The producer for Loveline is Aningold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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