Episode 1000710693590

0:57 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience.

1:01 Voiceover Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content.

1:07 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised.

1:13 Voiceover This is Loveline.

1:17 Voiceover With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew. Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. Still in New York City tonight. Yes, Drew?

1:33 Drew Yes, Adam.

1:34 Adam All right. Was that really you, Drew, or someone just pushing a cart that says, Yes, Adam?

1:40 Drew Because somebody dropped a nickel. Because somebody dropped a nickel.

1:43 Adam That's right. Dr. Drew is in New York City tonight. Why, Dr. Drew?

1:47 Drew Because somebody dropped a nickel.

1:49 Adam That's right. Never gets tired. Never get tired of that. MXPX in the studio tonight, Mike, Tom, and Yuri are here and they were last here, Drew, five years ago. Over five years ago.

2:01 Drew No way.

2:02 Adam Yes. Yes way.

2:04 MXPX Has it been that long?

2:05 Adam It has been and it actually felt about like five years.

2:09 Drew It felt like two for me. Five was way too long. Have I known you for five years, Adam?

2:14 Can't believe this show is still on.

2:16 Adam I know.

2:18 Drew Well done.

2:19 Well done, man.

2:20 I can't believe we're still a band, but I can't believe this show is still on.

2:23 Adam I can't believe you guys still rock. I can't believe you still make ears bleed.

2:28 I don't believe it.

2:29 Adam It was, it has been a while. And I would say how much you've changed, but I don't remember anything. It's perfect.

2:36 You introduced yourself like you'd never met us before.

2:39 Adam You know what? I think after, like if you don't get laid for six years, maybe you're a virgin again. God, I'd say after like four and a half years, it's reintroduction time.

2:51 You're an MXPX virgin.

2:52 Adam Because it's been too long, like you can't do that. Hey, good to see you again, buddy. Because that's reserved for the guys you saw last weekend on the softball field.

3:00 MXPX Totally.

3:01 Adam This has been half a decade. So the guys are going to be playing at the Weenie Roast on this Saturday. They will be there. Have you guys done the Weenie Roast before?

3:12 MXPX This will be our first.

3:13 Adam We're virgins. Oh, really? Virgins.

3:15 Virgins.

3:15 Adam This is big.

3:16 Yes.

3:17 Adam This is big stuff. This is the granddaddy of them all. Is it not, Drew?

3:22 It's no Weenies.

3:23 Drew It's huge. It's huge.

3:25 MXPX We will roast Weenies.

3:27 Adam It is. And I don't know if we found out how many people Irvine Meadows holds, but we figured out about 14,000 or something.

3:34 Yeah, between 12 and 14.

3:35 Adam Something in that vicinity. Good crowd. I have no idea when you guys are going on, so I'll be buzzed. The question is, will I be catching a buzz, effed up, or vomiting?

3:46 I think you'll be catching a buzz at that point.

3:48 Adam You'll be catching a buzz. All right, so you guys, the sun will still be up.

3:52 MXPX Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

3:53 Adam All right. All right. So you'll be in the catch a buzz phase, which is awesome. That's awesome.

3:58 That's when you're feeling good.

3:59 Adam I'll remember you. Yeah.

4:01 When does the show turn for the worse? Like, oh, I'm just like over it.

4:05 MXPX Somewhere around the 420 area, I'd say.

4:09 Yeah.

4:09 Adam Usually usually when one of like Green Day's Samoan bouncers kicks the crap out of someone from Third Eye Blind.

4:18 There you go.

4:18 Adam That's usually for me when it turns.

4:21 It turns. But I don't know if that's for the worst.

4:24 Adam That was that was awesome because I was standing there. What was that, Drew? Five years ago?

4:30 Drew About five years ago. Yeah. Probably when MXPX were here. Weren't we both in that little trailer area when he came running down the hill with the hodl?

4:36 Adam Well, that was the second part. I was standing. I love Green Day. So I was like, I'm going to go catch Green Day. And I was just standing on the stage right next to it. And there they were plucking away. And one of the guys from Third Eye Blind went sort of on stage like he was a fan, you know, like, oh, I made it on stage and I'm going to hug the bass player. And he was kind of theatrical and joking around. And this big Samoan bouncer, just, do I have to say big Samoan anymore? Let's just say Samoan. Let's just say Samoan.

5:06 Drew Let's just say huge dark guy. We'll think Samoan.

5:10 Adam An islander. An islander with huge calves and a ponytail pounced on the guy from Third Eye Blind and tackled him, knocked him down to the ground. The guy from Green Day was playing the bass, turned around and gave a moment of like, oh, you know, Manu, no, don't, don't, don't crush. Don't, don't crush him like a walnut. This guy's from, from Third Eye Blind. He's not some fan that jumped up on stage. And he gave a look and he gave a look to Manu. And then he kicked the guy right in the head. And I thought, that's hardcore. The bass player did? The bass player kicked the guy from Third Eye Blind, right in the head. And I was like, whoa. Cause he kind of even recognized that this guy was a guy from another band and he didn't need to be disciplined or anything. Yes. He kicked him right in the head and it was, and then Manu roughed him up and dragged him out.

5:55 That's what you get.

5:56 Adam Then the guy hid with a bottle and he just hid right behind like some, some trailer Drew and I were standing around. And then when, when, when Green Day got off stage and they're just running back to their trailer, just jumped out and whacked him across the head with it. Rock and roll, baby.

6:12 Yeah.

6:12 West Side Story slash Weenie Roast.

6:15 Adam Yeah. West Side Weenie.

6:17 West Side Weenie Roast.

6:18 Adam Yeah. When you're, so here's the deal. The bar's been raised for you guys. I mean, you're going to have to do something crazy.

6:25 Caller Of course.

6:26 Adam Because you want me telling stories about you, you know, come Sunday night, you're going to have to stab somebody or something.

6:32 Caller We will.

6:33 Adam Something good.

6:34 Caller You know, I'm going to stab myself.

6:35 Adam That's good. That's good. That could be great.

6:37 Drew That's even better. That's better. No one gets hurt that way.

6:41 Caller Yeah.

6:41 Caller As a doctor, can you condone that kind of thing? I don't know.

6:43 Drew I can't condone stabbing somebody else.

6:45 Caller He can tell you exactly where to stick it, where you will be able to survive.

6:50 Adam Yeah, Drew, there may come a point when I need to do a self-inflicted wound on myself.

6:56 Drew I'll be there for you.

6:58 Adam I'm just saying, I don't want to get into the specifics, but the marriage isn't working out the way I thought it might, and there's some insurance money. It's a long story. I'm just saying, I'm going to need to talk to you about putting a steak knife in my thigh and missing an artery.

7:12 Drew That's a little dicey. That's tough. I'll have to open it up and insert it.

7:15 Adam I'm going to need you. That's why.

7:17 Caller A little advice. Don't talk about it on the radio.

7:20 Drew Is this thing on?

7:21 Caller Keep it under control.

7:22 Adam No, I mean, it's cool. I'm kidding. That is the cover story.

7:25 MXPX We're on air?

7:26 Adam This is Theater of the Mind. This is an actual reality. Panic is the name of the new CD. It's coming out Tuesday, June 7th, which is a couple of Tuesdays from now. But you can see the guys at the Weenie Roast before that. We'll hear something off of Panic. We'll hear a couple things off Panic. And the guys are also going to be playing the Warped Tour, which kicks off when? Or is it kicked off?

7:50 Caller It's kicking my ass right now.

7:51 Caller It kicks off July 18th in Columbus, Ohio. Did I say July?

7:56 MXPX June 18th.

7:57 Adam Are you guys on it all the way through?

8:00 MXPX If there's a Warped Tour show, we're there.

8:02 Adam Wow. And are bands getting on the tour and getting off the tour?

8:06 MXPX Exactly.

8:07 Caller A lot of bands are.

8:08 Adam When you guys are going straight through?

8:09 MXPX Whole thing, man.

8:10 Adam Tons of dates, right?

8:11 Caller You know, some people can't really handle it, but right in the kitchen, in the heat of it.

8:16 Adam Yeah, this is never going to work.

8:18 All right.

8:20 Adam Let's take some phone calls and start off with this. Kevin, DNA test. Custody of cousins, two kids.

8:31 MXPX It's not fun.

8:32 Adam I'm going with this one. I'm going Marissa. Marissa. Hi. You're 20. Little girl voice.

8:40 Drew Say, more jello, daddy.

8:44 Adam Yes. Go ahead.

8:46 Caller Okay. Well, my-

8:47 Adam No, no, no. Say more jello, please. Say more jello, please. Go ahead.

8:54 Caller Jello, please.

8:55 Adam Oh, this is a 20-year-old.

8:57 Drew That's a three-year-old right there. Something happened when she was three. All right. What happened when you were three? What happened?

9:03 Caller Nothing happened to me when I was three.

9:07 Adam Nothing?

9:08 Caller Nothing.

9:09 I just had-

9:10 Adam No molestation?

9:12 Caller No, no, no.

9:14 Adam No physical abuse?

9:16 Caller No, I had a perfectly normal childhood. Everything was good.

9:19 Caller Allegedly.

9:20 Caller Are you still having a perfectly normal childhood?

9:22 Adam Are you small in stature?

9:25 Caller What?

9:25 Adam Are you small in stature?

9:27 Caller I'm like 5'5.

9:30 Drew Something's wrong here. What's your question?

9:31 Adam But let me say this, Drew. She has the little girl voice. Wherever we hear the little girl voice, it means something happened back in the formative years. But sometimes once in a while, people just sound that way, don't they?

9:43 Drew I guess so. We're not never on this show, but whatever.

9:45 Adam Well, that's true. And she sounds perky, though. She sounds like she's in a good mood.

9:49 Drew All right. Let's not bust her, you know.

9:52 Adam Hyman, go ahead, Marissa.

9:54 Caller OK, well, um.

9:56 Adam Hold on.

9:57 Drew No way.

9:58 Adam A part to bust, you know, like we get our balls busted all the time. What do you guys got? And it doesn't work. The Volvo doesn't really work. Or like, hey, quit busting my areolas. I'm getting to it. Like they don't really have parts. Oh, you know, fallopian tubing.

10:14 MXPX Ovaries.

10:15 Adam Let me just try. Ovaries.

10:16 MXPX It's ovaries.

10:16 Adam Let me just try a few.

10:17 Drew It's balls.

10:18 Adam Quit busting my fallopian tubing.

10:22 Drew It doesn't.

10:24 Adam But volvus bad, ovaries are, they're kind of, it's there, but it's a little technical.

10:31 Caller It's a little too Drew.

10:32 Caller People have to think about it too much, I think.

10:34 Adam I like hymen, you know, even for non-virgins. Let me try that.

10:38 Caller Isn't that some sort of choking thing?

10:40 Adam Quit busting my hymen. Quit busting my hymen. That's good. All right, you girls use that from now on.

10:47 Caller I'm Lick. I'm Lick.

10:49 Adam Marissa?

10:50 Caller Yeah.

10:51 Adam All right, go ahead.

10:52 Caller Okay, are you sure you're ready?

10:54 Adam Yes, we are.

10:56 Caller Okay, well, you're going to just make fun of me more because this is a retarded situation, but my boyfriend and I went out for three and a half years and he broke up with me for a retarded reason and I hooked up with another guy and we got back together and he found out about it and now he like won't be with me anymore.

11:14 Drew What was the retarded reason in the first place?

11:16 Caller What?

11:17 Drew What was the retarded reason in the first place?

11:20 Caller Like I was, I don't know, he would just ignore me and stuff so I would go hang out with my friends and I went to go see a movie and he found the tickets and got all jealous and thought I was cheating on him, but I wasn't.

11:30 Adam So you had sex with this other guy, was he a friend of this guy's? Did he know him?

11:35 Caller I go to school with that guy.

11:39 Adam Hold on, does anyone feel like that was an answer? Do we feel any closer to the truth? I go to school with him. Do you go to school with the guy you had sex with?

11:49 Caller Yeah.

11:50 Adam But your boyfriend doesn't go to that school?

11:52 Caller No, he goes to a JC.

11:54 Adam Ooh, that's a strike. And so he doesn't know the guy?

12:00 Caller No, not at all.

12:01 Adam Okay, he could have said that. But he doesn't like the fact that you have contact with him, you see him on a daily basis?

12:07 Caller I don't talk to that guy anymore at all.

12:10 Adam You don't talk to him?

12:11 Caller No, it was just like one time thing, and I was just like, yeah, this was a mistake.

12:16 Adam All right, so it was a little payback for your boyfriend not paying attention to you, and you made sure he found out about it.

12:21 Caller Yeah, well, we got back together and everything was fine, and he went through my email and he found out about it. Because that guy emailed my stepmom, like, freaking out, you know, like, oh my god, I did this, this is horrible. But, so anyways, yeah, my friend.

12:32 Adam Hold on a second. The guy who had sex with you emailed your stepmom? Is that what she's saying?

12:39 Caller I think she's saying the ex.

12:40 Adam She? Question.

12:42 Caller No one knows, actually.

12:43 Drew Wait, the ex, the ex got into her email and figured it out from something that was in the emails.

12:49 Adam I'm hip to that, but who, who's stepmom? And what were they saying?

12:54 She was talking to her stepmom because she was freaked out about the whole situation. And then the ex found that.

13:00 Adam In the email?

13:01 Yes.

13:01 Adam What is in the email?

13:02 MXPX Ah, seriously.

13:04 Caller Come on. What is this?

13:07 Adam I thought it was a drug. Hey, hey, Marissa.

13:11 MXPX All right.

13:12 Adam Listen, what is this? Like a Tiger Beat hotline or something? Let's go. I don't trust this new guy. Goes to junior college. He ignored you the first time. Just break it up. He's jealous. He's not going to let you forget this.

13:26 Caller No, I know. But OK, we hang out like every night and we still have sex and everything. And he still tells me like, oh, I love you, blah, blah, blah. But then he'll be like, oh, I can't be with you because of what you did.

13:36 And I'm the only girl.

13:37 Drew Yeah, get rid of him. He's got you for some reason. He's being an asshole. A hole. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

13:43 Adam Forget it. Just break up with him.

13:50 Drew You feel guilty?

13:51 Caller Yeah, I feel really guilty.

13:52 Caller And I feel like I totally ruined my relationship with him.

13:55 Adam Well, you were broken up already. And he ruined it by ignoring you. Quite true.

14:00 Drew Yeah, but you broke up for retarded reasons. And it makes me believe that you sort of need chaos and you're sort of living in chaos now to get back to the trauma issue when you were three. Was your dad a drug addict or something?

14:12 Adam No.

14:13 Caller Well, OK, my parents got divorced when I was really little, but I have raised my dad.

14:17 Drew How little were you when your parents got divorced? Three. Here we go.

14:21 Adam One?

14:22 Drew One.

14:23 Adam Wow.

14:23 Drew Why did they get divorced?

14:25 Caller I don't know. My mom and dad met in the Navy and stuff, and they were both really young. And they just got divorced and they both got remarried to other people.

14:33 Drew Was there violence in the home or anything? Was there something awful going on that caused them to divorce?

14:38 Caller The what?

14:39 Drew Was there something awful going on in the home that caused them to...

14:42 Adam I'm tired of humping this sofa leg. I'm just tired of it. Forget it. I'm not going to save everyone. Let them do their own thing. Listen, everything happens for a reason. And people land on their feet.

14:56 Drew It takes all kinds, Adam.

14:57 Adam What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Unless there's fire involved. That's my thing. Unless you're talking about an industrial type oil fire.

15:06 MXPX Yeah, and then it makes you crispy.

15:07 Adam Yeah, but you could still be alive. It's just you have to breathe through a tracheal and your earlobes are gone.

15:14 Drew But you'll be much stronger. But it makes you stronger. You know what the original statement was on that? I actually came across it.

15:19 Adam What was it?

15:19 Drew It was Nietzsche, and I hope I can come up with the exact quote. It was, in the school of war, that which does not destroy me makes me stronger. So in other words, if you make it through a battle, you've learned something and you're stronger. Not if you've been injured and dismembered, you're going to be stronger. It was never meant to be used that way.

15:39 MXPX Although, Pat Banatar, love is a battlefield. So, come on, let's bring you back to Loveline.

15:44 Drew Hell is for hell.

15:46 Adam Hell is for children. And stop using sex as a weapon too, so she may have injured herself with sex.

15:53 MXPX I fell down on sex.

15:55 Caller Yeah.

15:56 Adam Alright, let's talk to Kevin, who's 16. Kevin? What's up?

16:03 My parents are, well, they're my foster parents, so. Yeah.

16:09 Caller You're definitely.

16:10 Adam We were out owing for them, by the way, Kevin.

16:12 Go ahead. My dad is an ordained minister. Uh-oh. And, like, they found, like, maximum magazines in my room and stuff. Yeah. And, like, I don't know how to tell them that that's not, like, it's not bad to have magazines.

16:32 Drew Wow. Are they angry with you?

16:34 Yeah, they're pretty angry with me.

16:36 Adam First off, it would have been the greatest day of my dad's life if he just found chicks in bikinis and, you know, these sort of, sort of super soft core, like, I had, like, milking and popping and, you know, Hondo, Fudge Packer, and, you know, just.

16:52 Caller Guys on guys.

16:53 Adam Bizarre guy, guy on cow, cow on guy on cow on guy stuff.

16:58 Caller I had, like, the idea of, here we go.

17:01 Adam Hey, look, it's the soprano daughter in a bustier. That would have been the best day of his life. Best day of his life. Now, this stuff was, you know, macabre, the occult. Oh, oh, oh, oh, true it on cow on Incan God was horrible. Oh, no. Yeah. On Swirly Machine. It was soft. Yeah. Hey, Kevin.

17:27 Yeah.

17:27 Adam Well, here's the here's the here's. Oh, man, this is tough. How long have you been a foster child?

17:35 Caller There's about five.

17:37 Adam So your family was a disaster.

17:40 Caller Yeah. My dad was an alcoholic and my mom was a schizophrenic.

17:43 Drew Nice.

17:44 Adam And have you been with this same family since you were five?

17:47 Caller No, it's been about a year.

17:49 Drew Are you doing OK? Are you able to have relationships? You're feeling OK? Mood's OK?

17:53 Caller Yeah, everything's fine.

17:55 Drew That is huge. And you're going to stay with this family, right? Yeah. You feel bonded to them? You feel like this is your family now?

18:02 Caller Um, I don't call them mom and dad, but.

18:05 Adam Yeah, who do you? You don't call anyone mom and dad, do you?

18:09 Caller Well, when I was 10, I lived with this foster family for two years and they adopted me.

18:16 Drew Yeah.

18:17 Caller I lived with them for two more years, but that didn't work out.

18:21 Drew Why'd you leave? What happened?

18:22 Adam Yeah, what happened?

18:23 Caller Um, I had this dream that like my biological dad came back and killed them or something weird like that. Yeah, I can't remember.

18:31 Drew Did they have to put you in a hospital because of that dream?

18:33 Caller Yeah, they like put me in the hospital and...

18:36 Drew Yeah, that's not a dream. That's a delusional state. That's a, that's a psychotic state.

18:40 Adam To attack dad while he was sleeping with a crocheting needle or something, right?

18:43 Drew No, we became psychotic and had a delusional belief that things were happening that weren't.

18:47 Adam Do you think there are any foster families named Foster? Wouldn't that be confusing?

18:52 Drew Coincidentally, there must be.

18:53 Adam This is my Foster family. Yeah, I know.

18:56 Drew Mr. Foster.

18:56 Adam Foster, Foster, Foster.

18:58 Drew Foster, Foster.

18:59 Caller Where's the farm?

19:02 Adam So, you mean, what you're saying is this young Kevin freaked out and got dangerous and they had to put him somewhere.

19:07 Drew We don't know if he got dangerous, but he clearly became psychotic.

19:11 Adam But why wouldn't he go back with the family?

19:14 Drew He's describing a delusional preoccupation. That is a psychotic symptom. And he had to go to the hospital. And that's what that is. That's what happens when people get like that. And then medication takes that away.

19:26 Adam What do we do? I mean, I don't know if this ever really works out, but you have these kids that are so traumatized and so damaged by the alcoholism, the abuse, the mental instability, sexual abuse, and then all of a sudden they get put with other kids that have been through the same thing and they're all bunking up in the same house and there's 11 of them. What the hell?

19:48 Drew They need to be highly, highly monitored by really well-trained people. Yeah, it's not something that's easy to imagine. In his case, he's got a family history of schizophrenia, so he's at risk for that. He's had a high degree of trauma. He actually sounds great right now. I'm sure he's taking his medications.

20:02 Adam Kevin, you taking your medication?

20:04 Caller Yeah, I take Depakote.

20:06 Adam All right.

20:07 Drew You're bipolar then?

20:09 Caller Well, actually, I was on this medication. I can't remember what it was and I guess it made me manic.

20:15 Drew Yeah, so you're, was that Xyprexa? We're on Xyprexa?

20:19 Caller Yeah, that's what it was.

20:20 Drew Yeah, that can induce some mania sometimes. But these are all very effective medicines in controlling what you have and that's why you sound so good to us. You're sort of, it helps deal with those brain mechanisms that are out of order from maybe what you inherited from your mom or maybe from all the trauma you've been put through.

20:34 Adam But Drew, isn't that the man just trying to poison him? Shouldn't he be taking some herbs or something?

20:39 Drew Yeah, exactly. I would.

20:40 Adam Yeah, man. You just need some like some ginger root and you got to sit in this position where both heels go up your ass for like an hour a day and do that and you'll be fine. You know, he's putting all those toxins in his body that the man cooked up, you know what I'm saying?

20:57 Drew It must be the toxins that made him that way. Anyway, he sounds really good and I just stay with your foster parents, stay there as long as you can. The longer that you can stay with a relationship, the better it's going to be for you. So just hang in with these things.

21:08 Adam Yeah. All right.

21:10 Drew And don't worry about the maximum is the least of your concerns.

21:12 Adam All right.

21:12 Drew That's going to be fine.

21:15 Adam I'm an ordained genius, you understand? And I'm going to give you some sage advice. You got about another year and a half and then you graduate from high school, you get to get a job and move out, right? Yeah. All right. Just fly low under the radar. Make your dad and mom or your foster parents happy. Okay? Make the fosters happy. Keep it cool. When dad says he doesn't like this, this pornography in your bedroom, throw it out. Or actually, better yet, like put it outside and then, you know, dig it up and masturbate. But you know what I'm saying?

21:46 Drew Like every other male does.

21:48 Adam Be respectful of him. He's making a sacrifice for you, okay? All right there, buddy. Join the soccer team.

21:54 Drew Oh my.

21:55 Adam You know what I like to do? I would like, I would like everyone to keep tabs, somehow us to keep tabs on those who are into the alternative medicine scene and talking about the man poisoning you and all that kind of stuff. And then we scan them. There's like a barcode on them. And it's like, oh, you got full blown AIDS. Let's say, oh, sorry. Yeah, you're not going to get the AZT or the triple cocktail. We have some worthless herbs for you over here. I was just kidding. I got AIDS now. Sorry. You blame the man one too many times. We're going to put you on some ginger root and you can just go ahead and drop and die in about six weeks. All right. All right. Oh, the man says hi. The man says hi. The folks. Yeah. Yeah. The the white guys in the suits that are trying to rape the land from Upjohn and Pfizer, they they send your regards. And by the way, you want this sea burial or you want it? You want to plot? All right. Fantastic. Good. Eat your drink that green tea. That's going to work out just fine. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone, everyone loves the herbal crap until they have a coffee. Yeah. Have a coffee enema while you're over there. That should do nothing.

23:01 Caller So half the rock bands are dead. Yeah.

23:04 Adam All the herbs, all the herbs are great until you actually get something. And then, then you're in trouble.

23:09 Drew South Park did a great episode in the Styler camp. It's the standard Kyle got to kidney failure and they were taking, if when they find out the guy, when you nearly die, the people, the herbalist, Oh, we're not doctors. What do you expect? And they were like, what? You told us you could cure us. What are you doing? And the gladialysis was cured.

23:25 Adam It's great when you have the, you see, if you have made up diseases like the phantom pains or you're allergic to something you're not really allergic to, or you have headaches for no good reasons, or back pains, or you're lethargic because you're depressed, then herbs are great because you don't have a real problem. So you don't take a real cure and it's cured because it's all in your head. But when you actually get cancer or AIDS or something, then it's time to start kissing the man's ass. That's all I'm saying. Kiss it. We will take ourselves a little break. MXPX here tonight. We'll hear something off the new CD Panic in a couple of few and we'll be right back after this.

24:03 Caller Loveline will be right back, so get your problems ready.

24:08 Drew This portion of Loveline is sponsored in part by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Live 105.

24:28 Adam Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew is in New York City tonight. Why Dr. Drew?

24:36 Drew Because somebody dropped a nickel.

24:38 Adam That's right. MXPX is in studio tonight. Mike Tomiuri, all here from the band. Going to be at the Big Weenie Roast coming up this Saturday. And Drew, I don't know what the weather is like in New York, but I suspect by the time the first band hits the stage at Irvine Meadows, it'll be 170 degrees.

24:58 Drew Oh crap. Oh, our favorite, Adam. Our favorite weather. Fantastic.

25:02 Adam It's somehow always 40 degrees hotter, that Weenie Roast. They got the roast part. I'll tell you they got that part right. MXPX also has a CD which is coming out on June 7th, and they're going to be on the Warped Tour, which is firing up on June... 18. And the name of the CD, Panic, we'll hear something off that. We'll take one call and we'll hear a song off Panic. Let's see. Drew caught son touching himself. Sex hurts. Can DNA test tell his ethnic... Adopted. Let's try this one. Peter?

25:40 Yeah.

25:41 Adam You're 22?

25:43 Caller 22, sir.

25:44 Adam What's up?

25:45 Caller All right. I was wondering, I'm adopted and I have a twin sister. We both were adopted at seven months. And we found our birth mom after she graduated high school and come to find out she was adopted too. And she was adopted in Missouri, which closed books. She doesn't know her ethnicity.

26:07 Adam Does Missouri have a closed book policy or just no book policy? Cause I'm guessing they just don't have books, so they say they're closed. They have bark, actually. They don't have books.

26:18 Drew What's a book? But here's the great cycle again, rearing its head.

26:22 Adam You're right. Your mom was adopted and then cranked out a couple kids and they got adopted. And so now you're trying to figure out if who's who?

26:34 Caller I'm trying to actually figure out... I was wondering if a DNA test could figure out one's ethnicity because the way I look, I'm dark and collected. I look like I could be either Italian or Hispanic.

26:48 Adam I'm going with Hispanic. Here's what you're not. You're not a Jew and you're not Asian. Those are two things I know you're not. They don't give up the kids so quick.

26:58 Caller You know what I'm saying?

27:00 Drew The answer to that is no. The answer to that is no. As far as I can tell. There's even debate about whether ethnicity really exists because it doesn't really have a genetic pattern to it.

27:11 Adam Oh, really?

27:11 Drew Yeah, well, not that it can be really be clear. I mean, not that it can yet be clear. As I understand this, again, I'm no expert in this, but I read something recently that suggested that at least at this point it's not something that really is in the genetic code per se as a very, as a discrete identifiable phenomenon.

27:30 Adam Look, I don't, this may sound racist, but if you showed me like black guys' DNA, Chinese guys' DNA and American Indians' DNA, I could tell them apart. Well, obviously, something exists because they're, I need a microscope, obviously, I couldn't just eyeball it. But I feel like I would know.

27:46 Drew I feel like I would know. There are things that encode for the physical, the eye shape and the skin color. That's what I'm saying. There's obviously something.

27:51 Adam I could tell. I could tell.

27:53 Drew It's more mixed than we had thought. All right, whatever. All right.

27:56 Adam All right, everybody. So, Peter.

27:59 Caller Yeah.

27:59 Adam Was it disappointing when you finally found your mom?

28:04 Caller Um, no, it answered a lot of questions. But what's really weird is my twin sister, she's white with blue eyes and blonde hair. So, um, like, I and my birth mom was white also. All right.

28:20 Adam And what did she say about your biological father?

28:24 Caller She really didn't know him. She said that he was mixed, but she didn't know what up.

28:28 Drew Where are we going with this?

28:29 Adam I'm just curious, but it's kind of funny at a certain stage when it just people just kind of become like dogs. Like I met this mutt in the alley. He raped me and I had had a litter of kids. But I gave a couple of the pups away and ran into him at the dog park 18 years later. It's awesome. Sniffed a little ass and went our own way.

28:50 MXPX I recognize you.

28:51 Adam It's really true. We talk about this all the time because Drew has triplets. And Drew's like, you don't understand these kids. They need violin lessons. They need piano lessons. They need harp lessons. They need harpsichord lessons. They got to go to the best private schools. And then college, it's going to be about a million, five million, six per child. I'm like, or you could do what my parents did. Nothing. You just do zero, do zero. You have stepmom can kick you out of the house when you're 18 and you can clean carpets. You can do zero. See what I'm saying, Drew? It is allowed.

29:21 Drew Yeah, yeah. Well, it's not a great idea. I mean, you worked out sorta, but look at me.

29:29 Adam Yeah, literally, literally a millionaire, literally a millionaire, literally a millionaire. But but here's here's the thing, Drew, there's a whole range of parenting and you're at the top, but you can do something in between. You know what I'm saying?

29:43 Drew Yeah, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. All right.

29:45 Adam It's just saying MXPX in studio tonight. We're going to hear something off the new CD Panic. We will do that in about eight seconds. How are you feeling there, Michelle? You're cued up?

29:56 Caller Yes.

29:57 Adam You ready to rock?

29:57 Caller Yes.

29:58 Adam Let's hear a little something off Panic called Heard That Sound. That's right. That's our song. You can talk over that. MXPX, everybody. Panic.

33:44 Caller It's disrespectful, talk over the song.

33:47 Adam Name of the CD. These, Panic's gonna come out on June 7th, and the guys will be at The Weenie Roast coming up this Saturday. We'll see them there, too. Now, don't expect Drew. You may recognize Drew, but he's not gonna recognize you guys, you see. Of course not.

34:05 Drew It's been five years, give me a break.

34:07 Adam And I'm not going to either.

34:09 Drew Adam, two days. Adam, look at the guy. Hey, dude.

34:12 MXPX What's up, bro? It's two days, come on.

34:14 Caller I know what it looks like. His hair can't get any more gray.

34:17 Caller Yeah.

34:21 Adam Yeah, dissing the Drew man.

34:22 Caller He hates me now.

34:25 Adam Let's see, let's talk to Sarah. Smells like cheese, can't figure it out. Sarah, 28.

34:34 Caller Yeah, I am.

34:35 Hi, Adam.

34:36 Caller Hey.

34:37 This question is really for Dr. Drew because I just can't figure it out. I'm really embarrassed and it's not like I really want to ask a lot of people and I'm not really around a lot of people because I'm a single mom and I run my sister a lot though, but there have been several times like where I went to kiss them and just kind of pushed me away and complained that I smelled cheesy.

34:58 Drew Your child did?

35:00 Yeah. How old's your child? He's 10.

35:03 Adam Your mouth smells cheesy?

35:06 Drew How old are you?

35:08 I'm 28. Yeah, I guess my mouth smells cheesy and like last night I was in bed and I asked him and I was like, why do I smell cheesy? And he said, I said, is it my breath? You know, and he said, it's just everywhere. And you know, I breathed out and he's like, it's coming out of your nostrils. And I was like, that's gross. What does it smell like? And he said, it smells, this is so gross. He says, it smells like eggy, cheesy. And I just don't know really, even after I brush my teeth, but I don't know if he's antagonizing me.

35:39 Adam I'm going to add some to eggy and cheesy. I'm going to add nutty. Got a nutty, she's got a nutty flavor to her too.

35:47 MXPX I'm wondering if she was chomping on just a block of cheddar right before she kissed her kids.

35:51 Drew She could have just polished off a wheel. A couple of questions. Do you have history of throat infections or sinus infections?

35:57 I'm glad you asked. Yes, I did. When I was younger, my throat was sore a lot. I had my tonsils taken out and it was really great because they harbored a lot of this yucky, disgusting, cheesy stuff in the back. I do drink a lot of milk. I drink almost a half a gallon a day because I don't know why I love it.

36:19 Adam You must just cramp blocks of cheese.

36:22 MXPX You're processing cheese through your pores. That's what you're doing.

36:24 It's true. I have blocks of cheese. My son teases me about it because I do. I love cheese and I love milk. I don't know if that's an issue. I mean, should I try to do that?

36:34 Drew Come on. Here's the thing. First of all, watch the fat in your diet, right? That's going to be an issue long-term for you.

36:40 Caller Okay.

36:40 Drew I'm really tiny.

36:41 Adam All right.

36:42 Drew Number two, if it doesn't mean your cholesterol is not going to be an issue.

36:44 Caller That's true.

36:44 Adam Hold on, by the way. I'm just picturing this, like you meet her on the Internet, but you're just talking. She puts up a picture and she's kind of hot. Then you start having this conversation with them when they start telling you, they drink a dairy every day and then they have that weird, crazy person. They're like, oh, you're like, oh.

37:06 MXPX I smell like cheese.

37:08 Adam Sarah, why do you eat or drink or consume a half gallon of milk daily?

37:16 Caller This is hilarious. I don't know. I think I really love milk. I consider it like my cocktail when I come home because I don't drink alcohol at all. I think I'm allergic to it. And so I don't drink it. And so I love to mix it up with chocolate, of course. And I have I make my son dinner, you know, we eat a lot. And I serve him a lot of milk. And so I have a lot.

37:37 Adam Are you are?

37:39 Drew She has a lot because she has a lot. Yeah.

37:41 Adam So let me just get the beats down here. A lot consumes a lot of milk because she consumes a lot of milk.

37:47 Drew That's because she has a lot. That's right. Yeah, she has a lot of it because she has a lot of milk.

37:51 Adam All right. Sarah sounds like like she's arrested in her development. I bet her son is making fun of her.

38:01 Drew All right.

38:03 Adam Something's going on. I'm curious what's going on.

38:06 Drew I don't get it as a mental health thing. I get it.

38:09 Adam Anything going on? What do I need to know about you?

38:11 Caller It's a little mental health thing because my son and I, we were in therapy and then I went out on a mental health leave and I ended up quitting my job, which probably wasn't the best thing. And now I'm kind of nervous. But I mean, I could get any job I want. But it's nerve-racking and I don't know.

38:30 Adam Please don't choose airline pilot. Please, dear God.

38:33 Caller Oh, well, I'm not going to do that.

38:36 Adam Okay, good.

38:37 Okay, yeah, yeah.

38:38 Adam Okay, Sarah, is something happened like your parents killed in a car crash when you were 11?

38:45 Caller No, they're not around very often. Like I moved from the Midwest out here when my son was really young. And he was going into kindergarten just because I really had to get out of my parents' lives. They're very like, you guys would totally understand. My parents are very heavy handed. My dad's a firefighter, my mom's a housewife. And everything I had, my sister, I'm the oldest of three girls. We couldn't have any sort of decisions. We've all got pregnant at 16.

39:15 Drew Just for curiosity, did your mom get pregnant at 16 first too?

39:18 Caller No, no, not at all. It was a big devastation to my family.

39:20 Drew How old was your mom when she had her first child?

39:23 Caller They were in their 20s. She was 22.

39:25 Drew And was your dad kind of physically abusive with you guys?

39:27 Caller No, not at all. He was not always real shy when they met. Mom?

39:31 Drew Was mom physically...

39:33 Caller No, my mom's very like a pill popper. She's very emotionally... And I mean, I'm not, but I mean, I sometimes had a pot, but that's it.

39:43 MXPX All right, here's the deal.

39:44 Drew Let's answer the questions. I forgot what they were. What were the questions?

39:47 Adam The cheese.

39:48 Caller My pot, like, does the pot have to, or the milk intake have to do with my cheesy smell or?

39:53 Drew It, of course, it could. I mean, that's what's in the back of your throat.

39:56 Adam I'm surprised you don't just crap a clam shell. So much calcium going through your body. Like you might just crap a abalone ash.

40:04 Drew Right.

40:06 Caller Are you from Wisconsin? Any chance?

40:08 Caller I'm sorry.

40:09 Adam Are you from Wisconsin?

40:10 Caller No, I'm actually from Illinois.

40:13 MXPX Yeah, it's close enough.

40:14 Drew Wisconsin, yes, Illinois actually. Okay, anyway, here's the deal. A lot of bad breath comes from an accumulation of bacteria in the back of the tongue. You could talk to your dentist about it. They're specialized toothbrush for clearing that area out. Certainly infections also with a sinus and throat can have a cheesy quality to them. There's not a minute in the day that you don't have milk or cheese in your mouth. So naturally enough, that can affect how your breath smells.

40:39 Adam Yeah, I mean, let's replace it with horse radish. And you do the math. You know what I mean? Someone complains you smell of horse radish all time and you eat a metric ton of it every day. What part of that math do we have to do? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you limit yourself to like five udders a day. And we'll see if the cheese smell goes away. Yes, Drew?

41:04 Drew Yes, Adam.

41:04 Adam Oh, that was that was that was nutty, by the way. You know what I mean?

41:09 Drew You know what? I think that was sort of a little mannaky and a little, you know, sort of the abusive mom and stuff. But more importantly, she had to leave high school probably and stuff and just never finished education.

41:21 Adam That's a little bit of a nutty chick though.

41:23 Drew You smell like cheese. But happy nutty, you know, it's a Napoleon nutty, our favorite kind.

41:27 Adam Yeah, it's happy nutty. But then even happy nutty has a dark twin sister.

41:35 MXPX It's a breastfeeding thing.

41:36 Adam Yeah, yeah, didn't spend enough time on the teat. All right, but you can't pronounce that word the other way, otherwise you get thrown off the air. It's awesome. MXPX, it all makes perfect sense to us atheists. MXPX in studio tonight. We'll take ourselves a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Yeah, MXPX in studio tonight. The band's gonna be over at the world famous K-Rock Weenie Rose, going on this Saturday at Irvine Meadows. I got my tickets right here and we'll hear something else off the panic CD. Drew, in New York City tonight. Why?

42:28 Drew Because somebody dropped a nickel.

42:30 Adam That's right, Drew. All right, let's talk to Alicia who's been on hold for 70 minutes. Wow. Alicia?

42:38 Caller Hi.

42:39 Adam 2070 of custody of your cousin's two kids?

42:43 Caller Correct.

42:44 Adam Why? Something horrible went on over there?

42:47 Caller Well, they have two different dads and their mom is my cousin and she's been in prison a couple of times.

42:55 Adam Nice. All right. So, you're taking care of the kids and do you actually have legal custody of them now?

43:02 Caller Yes.

43:03 Adam All right. And how old are they?

43:06 Caller Four and seven.

43:07 Drew And the question is?

43:09 Caller My question is, is I have my own baggage so I know that it can and will have long lasting effects on them into adulthood. And I was just wondering what I can do as their parent to help decrease that.

43:27 Drew All right. Well, you're not the parent, right? You're not mom.

43:29 Caller I'm not mom.

43:31 Drew Right. You're not the parent. But what you can do is provide an opportunity for a stable relationship with an adult. And that is in terms of outcomes. And when you look at kids that come from horrible situations, they actually have bad outcomes less often than we might predict. And when they went back and looked at why that was the case, what they found was that some kids developed a stable relationship with an adult outside the home of at least, say, eight years' duration, a long-term relationship. And if that relationship is maintained regularly, the outcome for the kids is much better. So just being stable, being available, being empathic, setting limits, doing the hard parenting job, not being their buddy, but being truly available for them and helping them contain their behaviors or whatever else is needed as a parenting-type role, that will improve the probability that they will turn out okay.

44:21 Adam When does dad get out or when does mom get out?

44:23 Caller Mom got out three weeks, almost four weeks ago.

44:26 Adam And what's her plan?

44:28 Caller Well, she was very active while she was in. The older one, the seven-year-old, has never lived with her. He was born while she was in prison and was in foster care for a couple of years. And then my uncle had him.

44:42 Adam Hey, look, I'm not in, I'm not, I'm not into this sort of Hitler-like maneuvers when it comes to the folks who live in this country. But how, how come we can't just put a little norplant into this crazy broad before she leaves the prison gates? You know what I mean? Do we really need her crapping out another three kids for us to take, clean up after for the rest of our lives?

45:04 Caller Well, luckily for us, she is fixed now.

45:07 Adam Oh, really?

45:07 Caller Yeah.

45:08 Adam Do they do that in prison?

45:10 Caller No. Well, I don't know. I don't know. It was, it was either then or soon after that that took place. Because I had the bottom two. She has one older child also.

45:19 Adam All right. So there's a third kid that's just in foster care.

45:22 Caller No, her mother has her.

45:24 Adam All right. And by the way, they can't, we can't just have one f'd up kid running around out there who's abused and not loved. We got to go for the hat trick. You know what I mean? It's just, it's, it's so ridiculous and society really has nothing to say about this topic. So I go for it, Adam.

45:41 Drew Go ahead. Go.

45:41 Adam Can't, can't play God.

45:43 Drew Here we go.

45:43 Adam What are you going to do? Really?

45:45 MXPX Really?

45:45 Adam We can't get involved with these people's lives and, and forget about, we're, we're helping them. You know what I mean? I mean, society makes laws like, hey, you have to wear a seatbelt when you drive your car.

45:56 MXPX I don't want to.

45:57 Adam I don't want to. I'm an adult.

45:58 MXPX Oh yeah.

45:59 Adam Well, we're telling you what you have to do because we're looking out for you. Look out for the mom. She doesn't want three kids that are going to grow up hating her guts. She doesn't want three kids that are in foster care or being raised by family members. I'm sure she's not wild about it either. Why don't we just get hold of these people after they crap out their first kid in the county hospital and intervene? That's what society is supposed to do. That's a good society, not a bad society. It's not a society that manipulates. It's a society that treats. Where's my patriotic music?

46:30 Drew Go, go!

46:31 Adam It should be swelling right now.

46:34 MXPX Maybe since we're footing the bill, we get a little bit of rights over her ovaries.

46:38 Adam Yeah, that's right. Quit busting my ovaries. That's what I got to say.

46:42 Caller I'm subsidizing something.

46:43 Adam Alicia, you're doing the Lord's work.

46:46 Caller Well, thank you.

46:47 Adam And I agree with Drew. Your job is to not build a time machine and go back and fix everything. It's just from this point forward, they have a good, consistent, stable adult in their life.

47:00 Caller Well, I kind of have a sub question you were asking about when she got out and she she was active in writing and and calling them while she was in for the past year. And then she got out, called the day she got out. Now the kids don't know where she's been, not due to me, but their counselors believe that their mom should tell them where she's been and it's not up to me.

47:21 Drew Yes, she should be always be honest with kids.

47:23 Adam Well, do whatever the counselor says, but I don't know. Do they need to know mom is flopping in the joint for a year? Just say she was a Dallas Mavericks cheerleader for a year. Now she's back. They missed the playoff. All right. I'd rather hear that. Fight her Ace something good. Come on. I was doing tats with a guitar string and drinking a homemade alcohol made out of spit and prune juice. It was awesome. Mommy, I'll show you one day. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam Madd. That's Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew in New York City tonight.

48:28 Drew Why? Because somebody dropped the nickel.

48:31 Adam That's right. Drew, there's no doubt it's a prepared statement and it's been well rehearsed. But could you have fun with it?

48:41 Drew No, it's not fun anymore. It's not fun anymore.

48:43 Adam Well, that's why they call it acting, brother. You understand? We don't care what's really going on in your cabasa. We want to hear you have some enthusiasm.

48:51 Caller Adam Corolla.

48:53 Drew Oh, much better. You're right, because somebody dropped the nickel.

48:56 Adam Yeah, let me tell you guys something that I'm working on. And I'd like you guys, because you guys are a band, you're a hardworking band, you're going on this warped tour, you're on the road, you meet a lot of people, you rock a lot of worlds. You have a pretty big audience. And there's something I'm trying to end. You're going to be out during the summer. I'm trying to replace the kids' pool game Marco Polo with Adam Corolla.

49:20 Caller Nice.

49:22 Adam Because for me, he had his time and that was fine. And I'm not knocking, I don't know if he's still alive or if he's, or it's like, I don't want to make fun of his, you know, if his family was around or whatever, but I'm sure he's a cool dude. But he had his day and now it's the ace man's time. You know what I'm saying? And I don't think most kids even know who Marco Polo is these days. And I think, you know, Adam Corolla is, you know, sort of young. It's now it's hip. It's a wow. This works. Right, Drew, go ahead. Yeah, that's fish out of water.

50:06 Caller Yes, most people who's Marco Polo? They're like, OK, some guy that likes pools.

50:10 Adam Yeah, I think he may have invented. He may have invented coping.

50:15 MXPX Noggino Olympics, I think he was there, right?

50:17 Adam Yeah, he set the record for the 500 Butterfly and the freestyle. Yeah, they don't know anything about Spice Roots to Asia or any of this stuff. What kids know today?

50:28 Caller What's Asia? I've never heard of it.

50:29 Adam They think it's a band from the 70s.

50:31 Caller Exactly.

50:32 Adam The point is, is Adam Corolla is something that could really catch on. It's time for a change. I think the pool, I think quite frankly, kids are bored of the pool, and it's because they're a little burnt out on Marco Polo.

50:44 MXPX You know, next time I'm in the pool with a bunch of kids, I'll totally start it up for you.

50:47 Adam Please.

50:48 MXPX Drinking my Jesus juice instead.

50:50 Adam Put the trunks back on and start up the Adam Corolla game. I'm just saying, you guys are going to be out there, you're going to be at the Warp Tour, you're going to be at the Weenie Roast. It's hot. There's a lot of young people out there, Southern California, a lot of swimming pools, a lot of folks from Orange County, summer right around the corner. Pretty good time to get that started.

51:11 Caller That's right. If we get it going, you want to go let us borrow that black card of yours?

51:14 Adam Yeah. There we go. I only use it to cut my Coke. Literally a millionaire. Where are we, Drew? Let's go. Yeah, let's go. Janet? Yeah, hi.

51:29 Caller How are you?

51:30 Adam You're 19? What's up?

51:31 Caller Yeah.

51:32 Adam You have a swimming pool at home?

51:34 Caller No.

51:35 Caller Oh, okay.

51:36 Caller You're supposed to lie. It's radio. I'll never know.

51:39 Adam We got to keep moving. Let's talk to Chris. No, okay. Janet, go ahead.

51:47 Caller Thank you. I just wanted to say MXPX, I'm a really big fan. How big? I actually used to live in Bremerton.

51:56 Caller Wow, that's big.

51:57 Caller Because of us?

51:59 Caller No, not because of you.

52:00 Caller For the record, we're from Bremerton, Washington. Small town?

52:03 Drew Yes.

52:04 Caller Yeah, I don't live there anymore, but anyway.

52:07 Drew They're Puyallamites?

52:08 Caller I just wanted to say hi and I really like you guys.

52:10 Adam How come people have heard of Bremerton, though?

52:12 MXPX Because of us.

52:14 Adam Oh yeah, I know, but what's the second reason that I-

52:17 MXPX The Navy.

52:18 Caller The Navy town.

52:18 MXPX The Navy town.

52:19 Adam Okay. Janet?

52:22 Caller Anyway, my question is for Drew.

52:24 Caller Okay, sorry.

52:25 Caller I have a fetish for incest.

52:29 Drew For incest?

52:31 Caller Right.

52:31 MXPX Incest.

52:32 Caller This is our fan.

52:34 Drew I'm sorry, guys. Insects? Insects?

52:36 MXPX I love you guys.

52:37 Caller No, no.

52:37 MXPX Incest.

52:38 Caller You heard it right.

52:39 Caller Incest.

52:40 Drew Spell it for me.

52:42 Caller We have a big problem with ants at the studio, but that's not what we're talking about.

52:45 Caller No, no, no, no, no. Incest.

52:46 Adam We may be talking about ants too. Or aunts.

52:49 Caller Aunts. Yeah.

52:50 Drew Incest.

52:51 Adam Family members, Drew.

52:54 Drew Did you have something happen with one of your family members?

52:56 Caller Not that I know of.

52:57 Drew Uh-oh. You said that as though you had some concern that something might have happened.

53:02 Caller It's possible. I mean.

53:03 Drew Do you have dreams about that or do you feel funny about some of your family members?

53:07 Caller I have had dreams about having sex with my dad for as long as I can remember.

53:13 Drew Wow. And is that the incest dream you have?

53:16 Caller Well, I wake up being forgotten.

53:18 Drew I beg your pardon. I beg your pardon. The incest sort of fetish that you have?

53:22 Caller Right. I mean, it turns me on.

53:25 Drew Yeah. Well, some of that is actually just sort of unfinished business, let's say, emotionally. That particular fetish sort of makes you sort of aroused at a certain stage of your life. As long as it doesn't become a real preoccupation, you're able to have stable relationships, you're able to function sexually. That may not mean anything. Drew.

53:46 Caller It's fairly normal.

53:48 Drew It's not fairly normal. But it doesn't necessarily mean that something awful has happened.

53:53 Adam I bet, Drew. If somebody says, I think this may have happened, but I'm not sure and I can't remember, then you start asking questions about the present. Like, are you able to have a steady, consistent relationship? How is everything working out? That's how you kind of get your answer, right?

54:10 Drew That's right.

54:11 Adam Because someone who was molested before they could remember would still have horrible relationships now.

54:17 Drew That's right. And there are sort of subtle forms of covert incest, you know, where it's sort of emotional incest, where there's not an actual incest that goes on, but you know, the child sort of replaces the role of one of the parents for the other parents. It's kind of weird stuff can go on to boundary problems. And we would expect you to see you have boundary problems in your relationships if you have that kind of a thing going on in your family.

54:36 Adam Janet?

54:37 Drew Eating disorders? Do you have an eating disorder?

54:39 Caller No, I don't have an eating disorder.

54:43 Adam What about current relationships? Any problems?

54:46 Caller I'm actually just getting out of one that's been for a little over a year.

54:51 Drew And how's it going? What kind of guy is it?

54:53 Caller I'm sorry.

54:54 Drew How'd that go?

54:54 Adam Tell us about it. Would you please screwball?

54:57 Caller I'm sorry. Jesus Christ. It went pretty well. I have some codependency issues. This is my first real relationship. And so I kind of got to learn a lot about myself when I found out that I have a lot of really bad codependency issues.

55:09 Adam Is your dad an alcoholic?

55:11 Drew Yeah, it's a boundary problem again. These are boundary issues. This is what I'm saying. This is probably a little covert incest in your family system. And there may be difficulty maintaining boundaries because of that.

55:21 Adam What? How do you do that covert incest? I may want to try that when I have kids. Because I don't want them knowing.

55:27 Drew It's sort of emotional incest. You know, this sort of weird feeling.

55:30 Adam Like your daughter walks by and you're like, you look fat.

55:33 Drew That's more than covert.

55:34 Adam But you don't say anything else? You never act on it. Woo, someone's been working out.

55:39 Caller Dad, I'm three.

55:41 Adam I'm just saying.

55:43 Caller Just saying. What'd you do?

55:49 Adam Did you get some color, son?

55:51 Caller You were working.

55:52 Adam What'd you do? Did you cut out the corndogs? You're looking tight, son.

55:56 Caller Come here.

55:59 Adam But you never act on it, Drew. You know, you just sort of, you know, you compliment like creepy guys at the office. New dress. Somebody had a good weekend. A guy, creepy, creepy guy at the office.

56:09 Drew Not covert. That's not covert.

56:11 Adam Oh, that's not covert? That's overt?

56:13 Caller Muscular.

56:14 Adam Yeah. But it's still just, it's still just yapping. You're not actually, you know, physically doing anything.

56:18 Drew I know. But the covert stuff is really covert. Like no one, none of the players are really aware it's going on. You see?

56:25 Adam Mm. All right. I'm going to work that in.

56:30 MXPX As long as you don't know what's going on, you're great.

56:32 Adam Yeah. I'm subliminal incest. It'll be it'll be awesome. You you want some more applesauce? And then you just like you just blurt out looking hot or something like that in the middle of it. Drew, let's let's work this out. All right.

56:48 Drew Now what? What do I do?

56:49 Adam All right. Who do you want to talk to, Drew?

56:52 Drew You want to know what covert is? All right. I don't know.

56:54 Adam I know what covert is. All right. We'll take some calls. Let's see. Caught six-year-old son. All right. We're going to talk to Sierra, who's been on the hole for 85 minutes. I feel bad for Sierra.

57:05 Yeah.

57:06 Adam You caught your six-year-old son touching himself.

57:09 Yeah. And I just wanted to know if I should be concerned with it. If I should suspect that he's been around any kind of abuse or, you know, has been exposed to like long TV shows or something.

57:20 Adam No. Six-year-olds diddle themselves a little bit.

57:23 Drew Yes. Males start touching themselves and never stop.

57:27 MXPX You're going to catch them a lot more as he grows up.

57:29 Caller From personal experience, Drew knows this.

57:31 Drew In fact.

57:31 So I have to be concerned that he's, because I talked to him about it because he knew that I kind of walked in on him. I asked him if he learned it from anybody and I don't think, you know, right on the dot.

57:43 Drew Here's the deal. Do not freak him out. Don't go, oh my God, what are you doing? Just go, hey, look, just you're okay. You know, those are private parts and just be just sort of a good parent about it. Don't freak out about it. Young males will start touching and it's not a big deal. So if they start doing it openly, like in public and stuff, that's a sign that they're struggling to regulate their feelings and that's a bad sign. But the male will touch himself. One of the things that happens when a male first comes out of a coma at any age is he starts touching himself. So that's how primitive that response is.

58:10 Caller Wow.

58:12 Adam Uncomfortable when you're bedside with grandpa.

58:14 Drew Yes.

58:15 Adam Wait a minute. I saw his eyes move. Uh-oh, his hand's moving.

58:21 Well, I was just really concerned that maybe he had been abused that I didn't know about.

58:28 Adam You just freaked out. Although, Ciara, were you abused?

58:34 Yeah. I was actually going to call about this the other night.

58:37 Adam Hold on a second. See, whenever somebody's worried about someone else being abused too much, it usually means they're abused. The people that weren't abused don't really, it's not in their sort of lexicon or their galaxy. You can't imagine it.

58:47 Drew Yeah. It's like, oh my God. How could that be?

58:50 Adam But, no, that makes them, but also it becomes one of those self-fulfilling prophecies because they end up hooking up with abusive people. Yes?

58:59 Drew Yes, they tend to be the ones that create the circumstances that let the cycle go on.

59:02 Adam Ciara? What's up? Do you have a guy? Where's dad?

59:09 Caller We're married. We've been married for just about seven years.

59:12 Adam And he's a good guy?

59:13 Caller He's a good guy.

59:14 Adam And who abused you?

59:17 Well, see, it's kind of, I know that my older brother abused me when I was real, real young. And as I got older, as a teenager, I suspected that somebody was abusing me in my sleep, possibly my father. But I don't, I was gonna ask Dr. Drew this another night. I don't want to overwhelm him. I didn't know if that was possible that my father was doing it in my sleep or if maybe it was post-traumatic stress disorder, which I was also diagnosed with.

59:42 Drew I'm too overwhelmed to can it to that.

59:43 Adam Don't you think you would have known if your dad was doing it to you in your sleep? I mean, really?

59:48 I'm pretty sure I just never caught him in the act. The closest that I caught him was, I looked up to my door being open and right across the hallway, he was washing his hands. That's the closest that I got to him.

59:57 Drew You know what? Something weird, sounds like something weird happened. That's my sort of instinct on this. And you have PTSD from something. You said the brother did something to you too?

1:00:05 Caller Yeah, my older brother.

1:00:06 Caller I don't know how old it starts, but I remember.

1:00:09 Drew God knows what dad did to the older brother as well. So it's not that important that you figure out what it was. You know that there was inappropriate sexual boundaries crossed. You know that there was problems in the family system. You know you have PTSD. Get some help with that.

1:00:23 Yeah. I do have a question about the one thing they want to help me with is EMDR treatment. What's your, I'm kind of scared that like a hypnosis type of thing, what's your take on that?

1:00:32 Drew You mean that light there? Yeah. EMDR seems useful. It's evocative. You need to have it as a component of trauma treatment with somebody who really knows how to deal with it. It's a tool. It's not a solution to everything. We don't really know how it works or how to use it yet. It's sort of, well, some people have ideas about that, but it's a new form of treatment. It clearly has a role. But it's somebody who has training in dealing with trauma surviving.

1:00:55 Adam How does it work?

1:00:56 Caller What is, for the layman, what is EMDR?

1:00:59 Drew It's just a way of, they basically have you follow a light, and they cause your eye to engage in certain kinds of movements that they believe allows access to different brain mechanisms, and then they ask you evocative questions, and it helps you process the trauma material in novel ways, so it's no longer sort of locked in the way trauma tends to be.

1:01:21 Caller Interesting.

1:01:22 Adam So you get at things.

1:01:24 Drew Exactly, exactly. And it's not even about processing, it's about getting the brain to start rewiring again, so you don't have that kind of locked in dissociation that is so characteristic of trauma.

1:01:36 Adam I was thinking earlier, I always think this, you always tell you, and Drew, tell me if this is true, you're talking about coma patients going for their junk when they wake up, but in movies, they always do that thing where the person's in a coma and you should talk to them, and does it do anything for them to talk to them? Because I would be like, grandpa, it's Adam. Ho, grandpa, I'm eating, I'm getting something to eat, I'm out, if he wakes up, okay, if he dies, call me, if he wakes up, call me. I'm gonna eat, I would do the thing there, but after the first 20 minutes of talking to the person with zero response, I would probably move on.

1:02:19 MXPX It probably depends if grandma's talking dirty to him the whole time.

1:02:23 Adam Oh, whether he goes first, John?

1:02:24 MXPX Yeah, well, he wakes up and just reaches for it.

1:02:26 Adam Is, uh, Drew, how about that? Should you talk to people in comas?

1:02:30 Drew It doesn't really, I don't think it does much.

1:02:32 Adam And what about this? I'm a busy man. What if I recorded something, laid it down, we looped it, and we put some, like, you know, like an iPod on them, and they could hear me going like, wake up, this is Adam, wake up, wake up, this is Adam, wake up, just keep repeating it.

1:02:50 MXPX Probably worse things you could do to them.

1:02:52 Drew They would probably wake up.

1:02:53 MXPX If anything.

1:02:54 Drew They may wake up screaming though, is the problem.

1:02:56 MXPX Get Adam out of my ears.

1:02:58 Caller Can you imagine being like, okay, you're awake, you're conscious of everything, but you're in a coma and you can't move?

1:03:05 MXPX Zombie.

1:03:05 Adam Is there such a thing, Drew?

1:03:07 Caller So you'd just be tortured.

1:03:09 Adam Drew, is there such a thing?

1:03:09 Drew As being locked in? That's not a coma.

1:03:13 Caller Talking.

1:03:13 Adam That's not a coma.

1:03:15 Drew That's a locked in syndrome. And there is such a thing as a locked in syndrome. And those people usually can move their eyelids and things. And so there's a very specific area of the brainstem that gets injured for a locked in syndrome. So you can see that on MRI. And they learn to kind of communicate with blinking their eyes, things like that. So those people you know are there. That's a very rare syndrome.

1:03:35 Adam One blink, yes. Two blink, no. Five blinks, I got crap in my eyes.

1:03:40 Caller Have you read that book, Johnny Got His Gun?

1:03:42 Adam Is that it? Did they do the blink thing?

1:03:45 Drew Yeah, that's an old book from like Vietnam, right?

1:03:47 Caller Yep. And basically doesn't have a face.

1:03:51 Drew Yeah, that's a different thing.

1:03:53 Caller Completely different, of course, but it just reminded me of that.

1:03:56 Adam But still heavy.

1:03:57 Caller Can you imagine? Oh my gosh.

1:03:58 Adam Jenny?

1:04:00 Caller Yeah.

1:04:00 Adam You're 24?

1:04:02 Caller Hi, yeah.

1:04:03 Adam You have a new baby?

1:04:05 Pretty new, yeah.

1:04:06 Adam All right.

1:04:06 Caller About 10 months now.

1:04:08 Adam Yeah. There are not so many old babies these days. Eventually, they'll become people. Yeah, I got a 26-year-old baby. He's divorced. He's actually on the selfie, moved back in, actually. He's out for a few years. He's got three babies of himself. Yeah, go ahead, Jenny.

1:04:32 Well, I'll tell you the situation in a nutshell is that I told the father when I was about four months pregnant that I got an abortion and have not told him and don't plan on telling him. And my question is more, what's the best thing?

1:04:49 Adam But you guys are still living together?

1:04:53 Yeah, you know.

1:04:54 Caller Okay, cool.

1:04:55 Adam One bedroom.

1:04:57 Caller He's not so bright.

1:05:00 Adam Yeah, and you're broken up. You don't have any contact with this guy whatsoever.

1:05:05 No, he's a real loser.

1:05:07 Adam Okay.

1:05:08 My question is how, as you know, my son grows up, what's the best way to deal with that with him? When he asks, you know, about the dad.

1:05:19 Adam Well, don't you?

1:05:20 Drew We just said they were in, they were fighter pilots.

1:05:24 Adam Yeah.

1:05:24 Drew Make some story.

1:05:26 Adam He was a great pirate. A famous, famous, Methbeard was his name.

1:05:36 Caller Back in the early 2000s.

1:05:40 MXPX Pirates roamed the woods.

1:05:41 Adam Oh, you could not. If you, there was no shipping lanes that were open, that was not open. And he was a, he was a great, his men loved him. Yeah. Here's the thing. I don't know. Maybe you need to, maybe you need to tell. Well, tell them what? Tell them I didn't tell him about you. The kid's going to resent her.

1:06:03 Caller I did tell him about him.

1:06:05 And he's, that's when he turned into a scumbag and, you know, threatened me and threw things at me and told me that.

1:06:11 Adam Yeah. Well, he's a horrible guy, but you never said the kid was born.

1:06:16 Right. Well, I mean, yeah. Okay.

1:06:18 Caller I told him I was having it and that's when he turned, you know, into a scumbag. That's good enough.

1:06:21 Drew I mean, that's...

1:06:22 Adam No, that's good enough. But then you told him he had an abortion.

1:06:25 Caller Yeah.

1:06:27 Adam Okay.

1:06:27 Drew So...

1:06:27 Caller I figured it was better.

1:06:28 Caller My dad, I watched my dad abuse my mom and my brother.

1:06:31 So I figured it was better to have a loving mother and no father.

1:06:33 Drew There is an intermediate way out here, which is to say, listen, I looked at your dad. He's a horrible person. I didn't want him in your life. So I told him... So the child doesn't have to feel like he was rejected by the dad, that the dad abandoned, but that the dad... We can get mad at you for cloning out the dad.

1:06:50 Adam Is it a she? Because she's going to hate you.

1:06:52 Drew Is it a she or a he?

1:06:54 Caller It's a he.

1:06:55 Drew Yeah, he'll be fine. He'll be all right with that.

1:06:56 Adam It's too bad. Yeah, guys are resilient. Chicks, though, we just get another stripper. Guys, now we got a little shit.

1:07:02 Caller So I need to just basically be honest with him?

1:07:05 Adam Society weeps.

1:07:05 Drew I think not a bad way to go.

1:07:07 Adam But listen, it's awesome, though, right? You watch your dad abuse your mom. And did you just see it or did he actually call you in? I'm going to abuse mom now, kids. Come on, bring it down. Let's go grab a knee.

1:07:19 MXPX Check this out.

1:07:19 Adam Check it out.

1:07:20 Caller It was like a household event.

1:07:22 MXPX Right.

1:07:22 Adam It's like one of those Brady meetings they would have.

1:07:24 MXPX Kids in the back.

1:07:25 Adam That's right. Short kids are front, tall ones in the back. So grab a knee. Let's go. Settle down. One beating here, people. Let's settle in now. Let's go. Don't make me flick the lights.

1:07:40 Caller Let's go.

1:07:42 Adam Yeah, so whatever happened to flicking the lights? That was very effective when I was growing up. It's like, I will flick these lights. Oh, Christ. No, not the light.

1:07:51 MXPX Not the light, dad. No.

1:07:52 Adam No. We're all going to have like epileptic seizures or something. Like I always thought, yeah, go ahead and flip the lights, old lady. I'm still going to be talking. But so you saw your dad beating on your mom. So you hook up with an abusive guy naturally. This is what, you know, has been the theme of the night. And he abuses you. And now you got another kid who doesn't have a dad around because you couldn't break that cycle. Now, at least you broke it enough not to actually have this, your kid growing up watching this guy beating on you. Although I do worry about the next guy you decide you're in love with.

1:08:26 That was kind of the second part of my question. Actually, I'm with somebody that is really great. And I honestly believe we'll never do that.

1:08:34 Caller And I'm planning on spending the rest of my life with him.

1:08:38 Is it at all feasible to just kind of go with the fact that he's the baby's father and never tells my son otherwise?

1:08:46 Drew I would go with that. I don't. I don't. Thank you. You have to really sit down and think about it very carefully.

1:08:51 Adam I agree with me. I totally agree with me. No, look, here's the thing. I grew up in a time with numbskull parents that did subscribe to that. You should know everything. And kids are people and they're like miniature adults. You need to tell them everything. That is the S.

1:09:07 Drew That's crap, yes.

1:09:08 Adam I couldn't stand hearing all the... I was like, I remember hearing what losers my family were and it was like, it was devastating to me. I would have much rather just heard some fairy tale. I really would have. I really... saying, you know, this is not your real dad, your biological, why does that help? You know, just let them let them think the guy's around and it's his dad.

1:09:31 MXPX Don't you think there's a point, like an age, though, where it kind of becomes where, like, they kind of got to know, like, all right, you're 15, you know.

1:09:37 Adam I agree with that. Hit him, you know, second year high school. Hit it with them. And if they have any trouble adults, like, really, did you need to know this when you were eight? Did you really need to drag this anchor around with you? All the, you know, open house and parent teacher and all that. You needed the weirdo stigma thing with the fake dad. Just come on. Plus, what family isn't effed up today, by the way? Is there, you know what I mean? Like, Drew, do your kids get made fun of because their parents are together?

1:10:05 Drew No, they go.

1:10:08 Adam You're like, oddball.

1:10:08 MXPX Your parents never divorced? Freak Show!

1:10:11 Adam Hey, here comes Freak Show! With the parents asleep in the same bed! Oh, man! Were you guys going on vacation this summer together?

1:10:20 Drew I bet you'll bring back pictures.

1:10:23 Oh, yeah.

1:10:24 Adam Not about the stigma and the shame. Alright, let's take a little break. MXPX here tonight. We're going to hear something else. We'll be right back after this.

1:10:37 Caller Thank you for calling Loveline. Your call will be answered in the order it seems interesting.

1:10:45 Drew This portion of Loveline is sponsored in part by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

1:10:57 Adam Yeah, everybody. It's Loveline. Adam, that's Dr. Drew in New York City. Why is Dr. Drew in New York City?

1:11:05 Drew Because somebody dropped a nickel.

1:11:07 Caller Yeah. See?

1:11:10 Adam Funny.

1:11:11 MXPX It's got to grow with time, like someone dropped a dime.

1:11:14 Adam Oh, we should.

1:11:14 Caller Try it in different languages.

1:11:16 Adam We should be up to a quarter or something.

1:11:18 MXPX Totally up to like, someone dropped a buck 50.

1:11:20 Adam Susan B. Anthony, MXPX in studio tonight. Going to hear something else off the Panic CD. And also the band is going to be out on the Warped Tour every stop of the way this year. And also going to be at the Weenie Roast coming up this Saturday. All right, Drew.

1:11:39 Drew Yeah.

1:11:39 Adam You'll be at the Weenie Roast, yes?

1:11:41 Drew Yes.

1:11:42 Adam Have you picked out an outfit?

1:11:44 Drew Well, yes.

1:11:45 Adam Okay.

1:11:46 Drew I want to make sure.

1:11:48 Adam Is it laid out?

1:11:48 Drew Is it laid out? You know I'm going to check to make sure it matches with yours.

1:11:53 Adam Right. Right. That's it. It's really... All you need to know, like really the difference between men and women is when guys show up in the same shirt, it's like, cool, we're wearing the same shirt. Chicks show up, they're pissed.

1:12:05 Caller Yeah. Dude, you're my bro. All right.

1:12:07 Caller Let's kick it.

1:12:09 Adam Like you might just pair up with the guys wearing the same shirt, even if it's a white t-shirt. Like, all right, separated at birth. Great minds, dude. And chicks are like, they're angry. Someone's gotta go home and change, otherwise the party's over. And isn't that all you need to know? That's how men are. Look, always looking for camaraderie, camaraderie, always looking to make a friend. Women, always looking to put a knife in someone's back.

1:12:34 Drew Not someone's.

1:12:36 Adam They're female peers. They're female peers, that's right. All right, so we'll take a call, we'll hear a little MXPX song. Let's talk to Anastasia, Anastasia? Hi. Hey, you're 22. What's up?

1:12:52 Caller Well, my question is for actually Dr. Drew. A couple years ago, I got sick and it took the doctors eight months to figure out what was wrong with me. I had a pelvic inflammatory disease. And it ended up scarring my uterus, everything else down there. They told me I wasn't gonna be able to help children. Well, I have a little girl, kind of a miracle child, but every time a husband and I have sex, it hurts.

1:13:17 Adam Give her time, by the way. Huh? She'll be dropping out of junior college and dealing weed in about 15 years, and we'll see if the miracle child's label sticks.

1:13:26 Drew This is the key question in all this. This is the critical question. You gotta answer this honestly, because it sort of differentiates what you're dealing with. Were you sexually abused growing up? Yes.

1:13:37 Adam Everyone who has that PID.

1:13:41 Drew No, not PID, but the chronic pelvic pain that can't be explained, people blame it on PID, but in fact, that's from the sexual abuse.

1:13:48 Adam That's why the doctors can't find it?

1:13:50 Drew Exactly. That's why she still has it, even though they magically treated the PID. PID is very, very common and people go, they get it treated and they have kids and they go on with their life. But if you have chronic pelvic pain, that's usually a sign of sexual abuse in childhood.

1:14:04 Caller Okay. And is there anything I can do about it?

1:14:07 Drew Yeah. Therapy, therapy, therapy. Because you developed what's called somatic dissociation or somatoform dissociation. The information coming from the spinal cord to your brain is sort of disorganized by the sexual abuse, particularly if it was painful when you were a kid. Was it a painful experience? Yeah.

1:14:23 Adam No, it felt like a warm bath through.

1:14:26 Drew Well, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes actually the problem is that kids get aroused by it and then they get all kinds of conflicted feelings about that. But when it's a painful experience, that's when they get this very disorganized sensory experience from below the waist. Who did this?

1:14:40 Adam Who abused you? Who abused you?

1:14:44 Caller There's a long list. My stepbrother, my cousin, my brother, and three of my mother's lovely friends.

1:14:51 Drew Hey, but good time.

1:14:53 Caller Oh, yeah. Great. But I got therapy for, I was in therapy for about 12 years.

1:14:58 Drew Oh, good. All right. Well, maybe go reconnect to that therapist and there may be specific things they can do to work on the pelvic pain issue.

1:15:04 Adam And that's why you sound pretty intact for someone who's been through as much as you've been through.

1:15:09 Drew Horrible abuse, yeah.

1:15:11 Adam But she's 22 and sounds like she's 41, which is this is what you sound like when you're five and you're not a kid anymore.

1:15:19 Drew Right.

1:15:20 Caller All right.

1:15:21 Adam Sorry for what happened. Feel free to hate your family and your mom too for bringing these animals home.

1:15:27 Caller Oh, I don't talk to her, anyone.

1:15:29 Adam Good, good. And you can take solace knowing that she was sexually abused as well.

1:15:35 Caller Oh, I know she was.

1:15:36 Adam Okay.

1:15:36 Caller So see, magically, a cuna matanda, cuna matata or whatever the hell they call it.

1:15:44 Adam It's a circle of life, everyone. Don't worry, mom was abused too.

1:15:47 Drew So no big deal.

1:15:48 Adam All you guys that were ritualistically and sexually abused by the stream of lackeys your mom brought home, calling a boyfriend or stepdad. Don't worry, your mom was abused too. That's why she brought these guys home. That's how it works. What do we call that again? A cuna matata, a cuna matata. All right. There you go. That's how it works.

1:16:10 Caller Adam Corolla.

1:16:13 Drew Yeah, heavy, heavy.

1:16:15 Adam Yeah. Now, here's your goal, everybody. Don't get your kids sexually abused. That's your goal. Could you could we do that? Could anyone talk about that?

1:16:25 Drew There's even a better goal is realize you're going to do that if you don't follow other people's directions or learn to take direction from people that haven't been through that, because your brain will automatically put you in that mode where you put your kids at risk.

1:16:37 Adam And it's so strange that we live in a society that all we do is sort of examine trends. It's like financially, we're always looking at what's around the corner based on what happened in the past. In nature, we're looking for cycles. We're trying to figure out if we're going to have another hurricane season or every eight years this happens or there's this El Nino system. All we do in life is look for patterns, repetitions. All we do is try to analyze that except for when it comes to these really important things that have to do with the human psyche. And then we pretend nothing exists before today. What is that?

1:17:22 Drew It's like, well, it's a free country and so human. We just don't like being biological.

1:17:26 Adam We're all individuals. We're all individuals, man. What's right for me is we're all different. Everyone's different. We're all different. And what about polar bears? Are they're all individuals too? Every single one of them? Every owl. How about owls? They're all different.

1:17:40 Drew All of them?

1:17:40 Adam So, you're saying-

1:17:42 Drew So you can't predict anything about owls because they're all totally different.

1:17:45 Adam Yes, you can give me no definitive information on owls unless you've studied every goddamn owl in the world.

1:17:50 Drew Well, because everyone's different.

1:17:51 Adam Everyone's different. Every owl, every polar bear, every moose, everything's different. And you have to stay on. And insects, forget about it. Bees, you can't look at one hive.

1:18:01 Caller You gotta look at all of them.

1:18:03 Adam They're gay hives. You think she's the queen. That ain't a she. You must study everything. Is that the way we do it or we just study one hive? That's what we do. Why can we do that with people? It's so easy, but we won't do it because everyone's an individual. Oh, but all an individual. What? How many, how many people here have three lungs? Anybody? Nobody? Really? Not one of you individuals has a third lung. Interesting. Wow. Posers all with the same lungs.

1:18:35 Caller Has anybody noticed, like, how much in the news has been going on with, like, people being abducted, young children? Much more than normal. Is it me or is it much more than normal?

1:18:46 Adam I think it's the news. I think the news gets on stuff, like they get on a pitbull attack.

1:18:53 Caller It happens all the time.

1:18:55 MXPX It's happened all the time for a long time.

1:18:56 Adam I don't think, like, pitbulls were attacking everyone in 1988 and then there's been no attacks since. It was just in vogue. You know what ends up happening is with these things is, yeah, news stories get hot and then they just seems like there's a rash of them and then it really just freaks everyone out. Like, I think if you're a kid and you're seven and you watch the news, you think there's about a 50-50 chance you'll be abducted sometimes in the next three days. Of course, you know, and it's the same like I remember once there was some freeway shootings going on here in Los Angeles and then after a while they, you know, it got really hot so they'd say, another freeway shooting to report after this and then they come back and it was a guy with a daisy BB gun, but in, but everything now became a freeway, everything's a freeway shooting now because you're collecting stories on freeway shooting. So I think this country's always had a rich tradition of child abduction and abuse and murder. And I think it's been going on throughout this country's existence. I think it's become in vogue and trendy these days. You know how it is. It's the abduction du jour, but they'll always be going on. That's why it's the safe monies and abductions.

1:20:14 Caller I gotta say as a songwriter, I'm always thinking about like, okay, how I see politics, how I see the media, how I see the current events. And you're never quite sure what to believe is true. And that's true with anything in life. You're not quite sure what is it that's really going on.

1:20:33 Drew Well, here's the deal. You've got journalists reporting very complicated situations that they really don't understand. And I can tell you, someone that gets quoted in the press all the time, what they sort of present is so far from the fact that it's no wonder that you feel that way.

1:20:49 Caller Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's such a personal experience in my life personally.

1:20:55 Adam And stuff has a, just stuff has a cycle and stuff gets hot. And even news organizations just jump. I mean, you know, you just think about like Paris Hilton comes out with a, you know, videotape and it just, it feeds on itself. You're just reporting it because other people are reporting it at a certain point. Yeah. All right. All right. Let's hear an MXPX song. I want to hear it's heavy. I want to hear an MXPX song. I know we're a little late, but let's do it. It's Thursday. It's heavy. Let's do it. This one is, what is this one called? What do I go right now? Yes, this one is called Wrecking Hotel Rooms. What is this one called?

1:21:39 Caller That's not called GIO.

1:21:40 MXPX That wasn't even Reckon Hotel Rooms. That was the darkest place. That was the first song.

1:21:45 Adam Oh.

1:21:45 Caller I love it when that kind of stuff happens. It's amazing. Dead Air. This is Reckon Hotel Rooms.

1:21:51 MXPX Here we go. Tryin six.

1:21:53 Caller Now that's Darkest Places.

1:21:55 MXPX Yeah, oh, oh.

1:21:56 Caller You know what? The great thing is technology is not perfect.

1:22:00 Adam No, it isn't. No, and let me tell ya, all, I'll tell ya what we'll do. We'll break about 10 seconds early and then we'll come back and we'll hear MXPX. We'll put it out there.

1:22:12 Caller All right.

1:22:12 Adam We'll be right back after this.

1:22:18 Caller Loveline, with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

1:22:21 Caller We'll be right back.

1:22:24 Caller The one and only, Live 105.

1:22:42 Adam Yeah, buddy, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew, MXPX in the studio tonight. We're gonna hear something else. Well, no, we're not gonna hear something else off the news.

1:22:54 MXPX No, no.

1:22:55 Adam We're gonna, we're going for a deep cut. We're going back. We're gonna take a trip back to the past because we had a little trouble with our equipment, Drew.

1:23:03 Drew Imagine that.

1:23:04 Adam Well, no, it's not.

1:23:05 Drew Shocking.

1:23:06 Adam Hold on, Drew. I don't think it's our equipment. I think the CD is coded so it can't be pirated because it's a pre-release CD and somehow our machine is not reading it correctly. So we're gonna hear a little blast from the past from MXPX. And I think we should just go ahead and hear ourselves a little MXPX. You ready there? All right. This one is called I'm OK, You're OK. Yeah, MXPX, an oldie but a goodie. Well, listen, you know, everything happens for a reason, fellas. What can I say? But I haven't heard that song in a while, and I really like it, so good.

1:26:12 Caller All right.

1:26:13 Adam Yeah. All right, Drew, you ready to keep rocking the airwaves?

1:26:16 Drew Let's rock, here we go.

1:26:19 Adam Yeah.

1:26:20 Caller Yes.

1:26:20 MXPX That was enthusiastic.

1:26:21 Adam Nice, false enthusiasm, Drew. Yeah, Chris? Chris? You ready to rock, too, baby?

1:26:29 Caller I'm ready to rock, let's bet.

1:26:30 Adam You're 20, what's going on?

1:26:34 Caller Well, I guess it's kind of a boundary issue. I'm not really sure if I've taken it too far or what, but I've had a number of boyfriends who've commented on how aggressive I like my sex. With the last boyfriend I just had, we would have really aggressive sex and during it wouldn't hurt at all, but then afterwards I'd have like really bad stomach cramps. And so it freaked him out because he stopped having sex and then eventually ended up breaking up. And he kept asking me questions about sexual abuse in my past.

1:27:07 Drew That's good that he knew to ask those questions.

1:27:09 Adam That's a good lesson to this show.

1:27:10 Caller Yeah.

1:27:12 Caller Yeah, maybe he does.

1:27:13 Caller And I don't know, I went to an all-girls therapeutic boarding school for three years. They gave me a plethora of diagnoses, including, I was recommended I go to NLAA.

1:27:27 Adam What is an all-girls therapeutic boarding school and how do I get in?

1:27:32 Caller It's not that much fun. But I guess I went when I was 13 and it's just year round school and you go there and hike and bike and cry and group circles.

1:27:43 Drew And why didn't you do any of the things that they suggest you to do?

1:27:46 Caller Well, I did go to SLAA and I mean at the time I was 16 and I hadn't even had sex. They recommended it because they thought the amount I masturbated was worth it.

1:27:55 Adam They wanted her to join the Asimbanese Liberation Army?

1:27:58 Drew Sex and love addicts anonymous. She was masturbating excessively.

1:28:02 Adam Okay.

1:28:02 Caller Yeah.

1:28:03 Caller Well, I mean, I don't know that it was excessive, but I guess in comparison or maybe because it was that time.

1:28:09 Adam Well, what went on? Was there abuse in your past?

1:28:13 Caller Well, I don't know.

1:28:14 Caller My mom's a bit melodramatic.

1:28:16 Caller She's mentioned a few things, but we've never heard of it.

1:28:19 Drew The answer is yes.

1:28:20 Adam Okay, we'll go with yes.

1:28:21 Drew Yes.

1:28:22 Adam Because you couldn't get in on this show unless there were some abuse.

1:28:24 Drew Right.

1:28:26 Adam All right, so what's the plan now? What do you want to do? What's the question?

1:28:29 Caller I want to know, I mean, where do I draw the line? If I'm, I mean, is it okay? I mean, I just, for me, you know, I get bored if I'm not, you know, being rough and being aggressive, but...

1:28:42 Drew The way to think of this is that when you've been sort of abused growing up, it, it's sort of, let's think of it as sort of burning out the arousal centers in your brain. So in order to feel arousal, you need higher levels of stimulation than the average person. Now, if you go to SLAA and other kinds of therapeutic processes, you may come back down to earth, where you can be sort of connected to more realistic and sort of average kind of way. The need for this high level of arousal is usually a way of actually diminishing intimacy and avoiding closeness. So, you know, it's something you need to work on.

1:29:17 Adam All right. Well, you can work on it. I had a good question. It's a good time, so everything happens for a reason. Summer's Calling wants to know what you guys think of the piano man in England. Summer?

1:29:29 Caller Hello.

1:29:30 Adam What do you mean?

1:29:32 Caller I'm calling to ask a question concerning the mystery piano man.

1:29:37 Drew Mystery?

1:29:39 Caller The mystery piano man.

1:29:42 MXPX Oh, the mystery piano man. Yeah, go ahead.

1:29:44 Caller Okay.

1:29:46 Caller This gentleman was found. He has been said that no one's seen someone as traumatized as him in 20 years. And I wanted to see what your take on him was.

1:29:56 Adam Drew, what do you know about the mystery piano man?

1:29:58 Drew I have no effing idea what we're talking about.

1:30:00 Adam I thought we were talking about that Billy Joel play.

1:30:02 Drew That's what I thought.

1:30:04 Caller Yeah.

1:30:05 MXPX Which will traumatize you.

1:30:07 Adam Yeah.

1:30:07 Caller He was found walking.

1:30:09 Adam All right. I'm bored. But let me say this. You want to hear something weird?

1:30:13 Drew What?

1:30:14 Caller Absolutely.

1:30:15 Adam Because this isn't about me, but this next thing is. My agent got a call the other day and they wanted to know my availability for Spam-A-Lot.

1:30:24 Drew To be in it?

1:30:25 Caller That's right. Spam-A-Lot.

1:30:26 Drew To be in it? That's awesome.

1:30:29 Caller That would be great.

1:30:29 Adam They don't call people to ask if they're available to watch the show.

1:30:34 Drew To do the touring.

1:30:35 Caller Really need to sell some tickets.

1:30:36 Drew To do like the touring group?

1:30:38 Adam I have no idea. Nobody does a worse English accent than me.

1:30:43 Drew Oh, you got to do this.

1:30:44 Adam No one sings worse than me.

1:30:46 Drew That's exciting.

1:30:47 Adam No, but here's my point. I'm not bragging. I'm confused. Like, what are they talking about?

1:30:53 Caller Question. For a non-Los Angeles guy, do they do? Is there a big play scene here in Los Angeles for actors?

1:31:00 Adam No, not really.

1:31:02 Drew Although, Spamalot is, I saw it featured on 60 Minutes two weeks ago.

1:31:08 Adam It's a huge deal in New York, and I have no idea. No, I mean, they do plays here, and I guess they're well attended, but there's no scene.

1:31:17 Caller It's not the same as New York. No, not even a plethora of...

1:31:22 Drew But I sing and I sing. We could dope both to Spamalot. See, I'm not funny, but I can sing. So between us, we get a couple things going.

1:31:30 Adam Well, your name wasn't brought up. Sorry, sorry. I can't kiss you in every deal, sweetie. All right, let's take ourselves a little break. I just want to say hi and bye to Mira, who's been on hold for 53 minutes. I feel bad. Boyfriend confessed. He screwed a guy before they dated, said he was drunk. Mira, here's the thing. If your guy had sex, I'm talking to you. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay. Here's the deal. If your girlfriend says I got drunk and I had a little action with another chick, that's fine.

1:32:06 MXPX You're stoked.

1:32:06 Adam You're stoked. If your boyfriend says I got drunk and one-atted with a guy, that could be an issue. Because guys, I don't know any guys that are just gay for a weekend or just gay because they had a couple of tall boys.

1:32:19 MXPX Was it gay for pay? That's why I want to know. Was it gay for pay?

1:32:22 Drew It's going to affect him too even if he's not.

1:32:24 Adam Yeah. So here's the thing. If he never does it again and everything's cool and he's a great boyfriend, fine, but keep an eye on him. We'll take ourselves a quick break. Be right back after this. Well, that's the show, that's the week. I want to thank MXPX for coming in here tonight. Guys, five years, way, yes, way too long.

1:33:13 Drew Too long.

1:33:14 Adam Way too long. Ridiculous.

1:33:16 Drew Insulting, in fact.

1:33:18 Adam Name of the CD gonna be out in a couple of weeks. Look for that. Warp Tour as well. I want to thank engineers, Michelle, engineer Anderson, although he was gone all week. Who do I thank over there? Todd. He was doing a great job. Todd. Fantastic job engineering all week long. Brian on the phones. Stellar as usual. Producer Ann. And of course, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Producer Lauren for doing a fantastic, fantastic job.

1:33:54 Drew Regained a bunch of her juniors.

1:33:56 Adam She really, she earned a few back. So, until next time, it's Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.

1:34:03 Caller This has been Loveline.

1:34:07 Adam The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Aningold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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