0:57
Voiceover
Loveline is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content. Listener discretion is advised. This is Loveline. With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.
1:20
Voiceover
Hey, buddy, it's Loveline, man. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew, board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. Moby here tonight wanting to know what I'm looking at. Hi, how's it going?
1:33
Moby
What are you looking at?
1:34
Adam
I don't know. I was trying to see who was coming on the show next, and I realize that's a week old. Moby, a big fan of Moby, saw Moby on an episode of The Apprentice a couple of weeks back.
1:48
Moby
I saw that too. Yeah, I actually haven't seen it. I feel like I'm at a disadvantage because I've never actually seen the show.
1:54
Adam
Yeah.
1:55
Drew
I like that show.
1:55
Adam
It's a good show.
1:56
Drew
I like that show.
1:57
Moby
Really?
1:57
Drew
Yeah.
1:58
Moby
Yeah. I had a lot of trepidation going into it as well, because it was my first foray into the world of reality TV, which is, as we can all accept, primarily a very distasteful genre of television. So I didn't know if The Apprentice was going to be like Donald Trump eating bugs or something.
2:13
Drew
No, it's the best or the worst.
2:14
Moby
Okay, good.
2:15
Drew
And though I've done some, I think you may fill one of these out, these personality profiles I was doing on guests when they came on the show.
2:22
Moby
If I didn't, I'd love to. I love being a narcissist. I love things like that.
2:25
Drew
We found out that most people that do the kind of work we all do.
2:27
Adam
Hold on. If you admit you're a narcissist, you're only...
2:30
Drew
You're only partially.
2:31
Adam
Yeah, you might be an a-hole, but not a full-blown narcissist.
2:34
Moby
I'm a full-blown narcissist. All right.
2:36
Drew
Be that as it may.
2:36
Adam
It's narcissistic to argue with the host over your narcissism, so you're back on.
2:42
Drew
Go ahead, Drew. We found that the people that were off the chart narcissistic were the reality TV contestants. Oh, really? They were absolutely off the chart relative to everybody.
2:50
Adam
Well, they're horrible people, but we've met many of them. Most of them are delusional. Most of the women who come in here, I always ask them, is Playboy come knocking? And they say, yeah. And I say something like, I'm trying to be nice, but maybe you should talk to them and strike while the iron is hot, because, you know, two more survivors from now or five more apprentices from now, they may not be offering the kind of money. Oh, yeah. Oh, no.
3:16
Drew
No, no. I'll be in my acting career.
3:18
Adam
By the way, it's not about money. Then I would say, well, how much should they offer? And they go, they won't tell me. And then, would you do it for free? Well, hell no. And then it's got something to do with money. The thing about, but I will say this, I was just watching The Contender tonight, which is now a new show I watch. There's some boxing in there.
3:35
Drew
Another good show.
3:36
Adam
The thing about reality TV is, is half of it is a train wreck, but the other half of it is decent. And if you just sort of, well, what are your choices? Sitting around watching more sitcoms? You know what I'm saying? At least it's better than that. It's not a full blown documentary, but whatever the networks would be doing in its place, it's probably better.
3:58
Moby
Well, the one that I did watch was The Surreal Life. Except for that one. And I saw the first one with Who Was On It? It was MC Hammer and Corey Feldman. And just this fantastic scene where they had been in a shopping mall. And so Vince Neil and Webster and Corey Feldman and MC Hammer are sitting in a minivan driving back from the shopping mall. And they're all really uncomfortable. And it was just such an awkward, fantastic moment. Because you think of like these people in their heyday, and then here they are in a minivan driving back from the mall.
4:30
Adam
Yeah. I know this is now, this is something, it didn't really, didn't really used to exist anymore. But now, now this is a new genre. Seeing people that were sort of on top being knocked down. And Drew, you were never on top.
4:48
Drew
It doesn't work, see? The scapegoating impulse is very strong in humans. The knocking down thing.
4:55
Adam
Yeah. All right, anyway, let's talk Moby. Moby has a new CD out called Hotel. It has been out for about one, well, a little over a week. And we're gonna hear a couple of songs off of that. Also gonna be on the Late Late Show tomorrow night. And heading out on tour in April. So you can check the website, www.moby.com. My god, that is so easy.
5:22
Moby
I know.
5:23
Adam
You're so, I don't want to say lucky, fortunate, or smart to have that.
5:28
Moby
Well what happened was in 1998, at the height of the.com boom, I looked into buying moby.com as a domain name. And some savvy Silicon Valley guy had bought it and wanted to sell it to me for $150,000. Which of course is a little bit above what I wanted to pay for it. And I called him back six months later after it had all fallen apart and I bought it for $500.
5:48
Adam
Oh really? Yeah.
5:50
Moby
I guess he needed to go out and buy a bag of crystal meth or something and he was desperate.
5:54
Adam
You know, it's so funny, like when people have the complicated ones, how many conversations have you had where you started drifting off halfway into there? You know, you go www.one, not one, like one, the number, like one, that's J-U-A-N, okay? Two backslash, go and you're just like after about three, now you never stop them, although I'm now at the point where I actually go, we're done, it's not gonna happen. But you're nodding, backslash, and then they, at the very end of this crazy algorithm, they say, it's easy, no, no, it's easy. They're like, I don't know it right now. I don't know it.
6:37
Drew
You told it. My brother-in-law's name is Juan, you know Juan.
6:40
Adam
It's been 6.3 seconds, I don't know any of what you just told me. You think in six weeks when I'm on my computer, I'm gonna summon this up, are you high? Yeah, Moby.
6:50
Moby
Well, I've also, I've got an easy email address as well. Like I've got my private one, but my email address, if anyone wants to write to me, it's a tough one to remember. It's Moby at moby.com. Oh boy.
7:01
Adam
Yeah.
7:02
Moby
Yeah, I know. Should I repeat that a few times? It might take a while for people for it to sink in.
7:06
Adam
Moby, I believe was on our TV show back when.
7:11
Moby
Were you? Was I? I don't know. The mind's not what it used to be. The combination of like inbreeding and age.
7:17
Adam
Did Moby do the Loveline on MTV?
7:20
Drew
I can't remember.
7:21
Moby
Oh, I did.
7:22
Adam
I think you did.
7:23
Yeah.
7:23
Moby
And Jamirakoi was a guest as well. Yes. I remember it was right when the album Played came out.
7:29
Oh, those guys.
7:31
Drew
Yeah. The crazy hat.
7:34
Moby
And there was a woman on the show. You had a hostess of sorts.
7:38
Drew
We've had various ones. Which one was, what color hair when you were there?
7:41
Moby
I believe she was a brunette.
7:42
Drew
Okay. Diane, probably.
7:43
Adam
Probably. Jamirakoi came on, like their ass didn't stink. Remember those guys?
7:48
Drew
Oh, yeah.
7:49
Adam
And they just got off a plane from Europe. And all I remember, they're still, they're huge though. One of the guys was just showing me pictures of his Lamborghinis and I'm immediately one day over.
7:59
Moby
He's a little car obsessed.
8:00
Adam
Yeah. Yeah. I never, I didn't like the Jamirakoi guys or koi or whatever.
8:04
Drew
I remember like not being able to communicate with them. They were like, they were high.
8:07
Moby
Yeah.
8:07
Adam
Yeah. They were effed up.
8:08
Moby
And are we allowed to talk? Cause the question I was asking you guys before we started was which guests have been terrible? Are we allowed to talk about that? Or is that?
8:15
Drew
Well, as long as you're bringing up those kinds of band, there's always Chumbawumba.
8:19
Moby
Although Chumbawumba did have, I went to see them live and for their encore, they came out and said, okay, now we're going to do our medley of Hit.
8:27
Adam
I like that.
8:28
Moby
That endeared me to them.
8:30
Adam
Yeah, we didn't like them as human beings. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. We really need to just sit down. Rodney Dangerfield, God rest his soul, was an a-hole. I'm trying to think of-
8:41
Moby
That's a shame. But I mean, Caddyshack, Caddyshack covers up a multitude of-
8:45
Drew
Mason, what's his name? Jackie Mason?
8:47
Adam
Jackie Mason was an a-hole.
8:48
Moby
Jackie Mason was not an a-hole.
8:50
Drew
Yeah. What? No bagels?
8:52
Adam
Look, he was angry at 10.30 at night that there are no bagels laid out. I'm like, you're lucky if you get non-dairy creamer at a radio station. Are you kidding? Bagels? I don't think people at radio stations know what bagels are. There's no juice here.
9:06
Moby
I've got tap water in a styrofoam cup right now and I'm happy. I feel like I'm being well looked after.
9:13
Adam
The cup was only used three times by the morning crew, by the way, so it's relatively fresh.
9:18
Drew
And then it was a soap holder for a short while, but now...
9:20
Adam
Well, you're going to keep your toothbrush, you know? I can rest it right on the sink there. Danielle?
9:27
Yeah?
9:27
Adam
You're 15?
9:29
Caller
Yes.
9:30
Adam
What's up?
9:32
Caller
Hi. My boyfriend and me a while back tried anal and he's a little bit wider around than average. Yeah, and it really hurt.
9:44
Moby
Whiter or wider?
9:46
Adam
Sounded like wider, but I figured it out. It's wider.
9:49
Moby
Yeah.
9:50
Caller
It hurt. And he wants to again, and I'm willing to, but we've tried a couple more times.
9:56
Adam
It's like if you're hearing a commercial for a toothpaste and they said, wider teeth, you would know they meant wider.
10:01
Drew
So we're talking about the penis.
10:03
Adam
It's not actually making it wider. Yeah. So it's a context.
10:06
Drew
Yeah.
10:07
Adam
Danielle.
10:08
Caller
Yeah.
10:08
Adam
Right.
10:09
Drew
But Danielle, I want to stop you here. You're 15.
10:12
Caller
Yeah.
10:12
Adam
Yeah. Aren't you getting started a little late? I mean, for our callers started earlier in 15. Is that what you're going to say? I'm no mind reader, but I know where I, after sitting next to Drew for 10 years, I think I know where he's heading. Why not 12 or 13? Isn't that what you're asking, Drew?
10:28
Drew
Of course, of course. Thank you, Adam. That's nice.
10:31
Adam
Danielle, yes, 15.
10:33
Drew
What's going on?
10:35
Adam
At 15, I didn't even know where the anus was.
10:36
Drew
How old is he? Have you ever heard that word at 15?
10:39
Adam
Not anus.
10:39
Drew
Not anus and sex together. Those are two.
10:42
Adam
No, no.
10:42
Drew
Those words.
10:43
Moby
Well, the town I grew up in, we had a river running through our town called the Myanus River.
10:48
Drew
Nice.
10:48
Moby
Which was fantastic. So we became familiar with the anus at an early age.
10:53
Adam
So how long have you been with this guy?
10:56
Caller
About three months now.
10:58
Drew
How old is he?
10:59
Caller
Same age as me.
11:00
Moby
15? That is really young. I hadn't even had sex when I was 15, but this was back in the tough 30s.
11:06
Caller
So the first time we did, we were both 14.
11:10
Drew
Oh, Danielle.
11:11
Caller
Yeah.
11:12
Drew
What are you using for birth control?
11:13
Adam
Well, wait, the first time you had sex, you were 14.
11:17
Caller
Well, either one.
11:19
Drew
In other words, she just turned 15.
11:20
Caller
Yeah.
11:21
Adam
The anal sex at 14 too?
11:23
Caller
Yeah.
11:25
Adam
Okay. Wow.
11:26
Caller
I'm crazy about this guy and if I wasn't, I wouldn't do anything.
11:29
Drew
No, Danielle, this just means that you've got some such heavy trauma in your life that that kind of profound stimulation is what you need.
11:36
Caller
I'm a complete masochist.
11:38
Drew
Yeah, I know because somebody made you that.
11:41
Adam
Where's your dad?
11:42
Moby
I didn't know the word masochist when I was 15 either.
11:44
Adam
No, I know.
11:45
Caller
My dad.
11:45
Adam
Quite rangy, Danielle.
11:47
Yeah.
11:47
Caller
My dad's a naffle.
11:49
Drew
No kidding.
11:50
Yeah, it is. Ironically.
11:52
Drew
Ironically, she uses that word to describe him, strangely enough.
11:55
Adam
Where is your dad?
11:57
Drew
Oh, a little pot here.
11:59
Caller
Room over for me.
12:01
Drew
Little tobacco and a little marijuana going with her too. What?
12:04
Adam
Me?
12:04
Caller
No.
12:05
Adam
You smoking? What are you doing?
12:06
Caller
Nothing.
12:07
Adam
No? Nothing? No drugs?
12:09
Caller
Not right now. No way. I'm at home.
12:11
Drew
I know. Not right now. I understand. But I can hear the residual effects.
12:15
Adam
Huffing copier toner as we speak.
12:17
Caller
Oh.
12:17
Adam
Throw a rag that's wrapped around the phone.
12:20
Caller
Um, I used to smoke.
12:23
Drew
Yeah. Well, I can hear it. I know. We hear it.
12:25
Adam
You used to smoke pot. What happened? You got busted?
12:27
Caller
No. No. I used to smoke cigarettes and a little weed, but not much. But I don't do either now because I've basically cleaned my life up and I'm happy about that.
12:38
Moby
That's good.
12:39
All right.
12:39
Moby
Congratulations.
12:40
Adam
She's given herself to the Lord. Now it's all about anal and calling a bad nail.
12:45
Caller
I never got busted for anything.
12:47
All right.
12:47
Moby
That's good.
12:48
Adam
All right.
12:48
Caller
I just broke up and realized I was trying to kill myself or something.
12:54
Moby
Can I ask a simple question? How do you think your boyfriend would respond if you said that you didn't want to ever have anal sex with him?
13:01
Caller
He would say, it's okay, baby. It doesn't matter.
13:04
Drew
There you go.
13:05
Moby
That's the answer. Let's maybe hold off on the anal till you're able to vote at the very focus of birth control.
13:11
Caller
It's not that. It wouldn't hurt me if the fact wasn't that it's just too wide.
13:15
Drew
Whatever, Danielle. It's whatever it is that hurts. Don't do it. What are you using for birth control?
13:20
Caller
Condoms.
13:21
Drew
All right. Stay with it. Don't worry about the anal sex.
13:26
Adam
Where is your dad, by the way, goofball?
13:28
Caller
A room over from me.
13:30
Adam
Oh, I see. What's he do? Something with a truck.
13:34
Caller
He's a computer engineer.
13:35
Adam
Aha. I knew it.
13:37
Moby
You could smell it a mile away.
13:39
Adam
A hillbill is like the Hatfields of the McCoys. That's the thing about the Hatfields of McCoys. The Hatfields, computer tax. McCoys on the programming side.
13:49
Moby
Of course.
13:49
Adam
Yeah, that's what they want. Hardware versus software.
13:51
Hardware versus software.
13:54
Adam
All right, listen, Danielle. Just please stop trying to humiliate your father through humiliating yourself. That's the, ah, this is what goes on. Young women, they have a grudge against their father. Their fathers don't pay attention to them. Maybe they're alcoholics. Maybe they abuse them. Maybe they just sort of act like they don't exist. Maybe they always wanted a son. And then the daughter essentially pays daddy back, except for she becomes the pincushion. It's a weird strategy for paying someone back. You almost never pay anyone back that way. I mean, usually when you pay someone back, you go get that person.
14:33
Drew
She's like the voodoo doll.
14:34
Adam
Right.
14:35
Drew
She becomes voodoo. Actually, she just treats herself the way she feels her dad treated her.
14:39
Adam
Right.
14:39
Drew
And finds guys to continue that process.
14:41
Adam
Yeah. And at a certain point, she makes sure that her dad finds out about whatever's going on with her.
14:46
Drew
Well, not at a certain point. Thanksgiving, Easter, or Christmas.
14:50
Adam
That's right. Big three. But never Yom Kippur.
14:54
Drew
Strangely enough.
14:55
Adam
Yeah. Christina?
14:58
Hello?
14:59
Adam
2021 on with Moby. What's up?
15:02
I was just wondering, I kind of had a question. When I get close to climaxing, the other night with my boyfriend for some strange reason, I just wanted him to pee in me and we kind of laughed about it and shrugged it off. But then we were wondering, is that safe?
15:18
Drew
It's safe, but it's almost impossible. A guy, for him to be a guy with a good erection is almost impossible to pee. And if he's near orgasm, it's really truly impossible.
15:31
Adam
I'd like to try though.
15:33
Drew
I know you would.
15:33
Adam
I think, here's how it would work for me. Oh yeah, no, no, I can do it. Done it a million times. Hup, hup, hup, sorry baby, this didn't happen. Try me again in about three days to see if we can do it again. Nice. I'm gonna say three hours, but I don't know who we can. Yeah, yeah, it's a weird impulse on your behalf.
15:52
Caller
No, I know and I laughed about it. I didn't know. I just came out.
15:56
Adam
Yeah, is it? Can you connect it to anything? Is there anything we should know?
16:01
Caller
Well, no, I just it's it's when we're in like a certain position with my legs around his shoulders and it's deep penetration for some reason. I just I just had the urge and I and I laughed about it. But it's kind of simultaneous to him coming in me.
16:18
Drew
But yes, you just want you want him just to put fluid in you. Is that what you're saying?
16:22
Caller
Well, yeah.
16:23
Drew
Yeah, he'll he'll do that anyway. Don't worry.
16:26
Adam
Oh, yeah. But what I'm asking is, is I don't know, were you ever, you know, did a horse ever urinate on you when you're a three year old? There's something like that.
16:35
Caller
No, no.
16:37
Adam
All right. I could have.
16:38
Caller
I was kind of gross myself. I just thought it was weird.
16:41
I don't know.
16:41
Adam
All right. All right.
16:42
Moby
Well, well, it's not, it's not particularly.
16:44
Drew
Oh, she has another question.
16:45
Wait, that should be good.
16:47
Moby
But urine, I mean urine, when it leaves the body, it is sterile.
16:49
Drew
Quite sterile.
16:51
Adam
Yeah. You're fine. But it's just a tall aura, although if he's wearing a condom, it becomes a.
16:55
Drew
Impossible.
16:56
Adam
Or comical.
16:56
Drew
Irrelevant. Yeah. Oh yes.
16:58
Moby
Interesting.
16:58
Adam
Like when those, you know, you go to the fair and you get the squirt guy.
17:02
Moby
Like the clown's mouth.
17:03
Adam
Clown's mouth. Yeah. Where was she? Christina?
17:08
Drew
All right. Your other question.
17:09
Caller
Okay. After I have a real intense orgasm, I get really bad cramps and I was just wondering like why and what can I do to stop that from happening? Cause it's just a real bad discomfort after.
17:21
Drew
Yeah. Usually, oftentimes anyway, that's a spasm of the pubococcygous muscle, which is on the floor of the pelvis. And it's a hard thing to not, to get control over when it happens. So it's not something you can easily, sometimes doing Kegel exercises might help with that. But for the most part, it's about just relaxing and not clamping down too hard when you do have to.
17:40
Adam
It's only when you orgasm.
17:42
Caller
Oh yeah.
17:44
Adam
Okay, all right. So, and you orgasm every time?
17:49
Caller
Most of the time.
17:50
Adam
So, let me talk to Moby and Drew about this. If you have a 21 year old woman who just orgasms most of the time, doesn't seem to have any history of trauma, and sort of, just-
18:01
Drew
It's weird, a wild mare.
18:02
Adam
Flirted with the notion of being urinated. And this is just someone who just is good to go.
18:07
Drew
Yeah.
18:08
Adam
Like, this is just somebody who sort of almost has a male mentality when it comes to sex.
18:12
Drew
Yeah, she's got, she's high drive, high tumescence.
18:15
Adam
Yeah.
18:16
Moby
Tumescence, that's a fantastic word.
18:18
Drew
It's strong.
18:19
Adam
It's almost, you know, the only thing better is tumescence monitor, which-
18:23
Moby
Turgid.
18:24
Adam
Yeah, that's a good word too.
18:25
Moby
Priapic.
18:26
Adam
No, I don't even know what that one means.
18:28
Drew
What was that again?
18:28
Moby
Priapic.
18:30
Adam
What does it mean?
18:31
Moby
A priapism, I believe is one like you can-
18:32
Adam
Oh, never being able to lose your erection. I like that. All right, let's see, we got a Moby song to play, we got a man boob question, got the Pope.
18:42
Moby
The Pope's gone. It's a little bit odd. I mean, I'm old, we've all sort of been around the block a lot, I've never heard, maybe I'm naive, but I've never heard of a woman wanting to be urinated in.
18:53
Drew
You know, there's a lot of things-
18:54
Adam
Come up with time or two on this show.
18:56
Drew
Correct me if I'm wrong on this. I think there's a lot of primitive impulses that women have that are never spoken of at this point in history for some reason. There are two particularly, I think, and I don't know, but I'm kind of hearing this from women. One is the desire to have something put in. That desire of the guy emitting something into her is an important part of the gratification of sex.
19:16
Adam
Interesting.
19:17
Drew
Of having that experience, of receiving something. Let's put it that way. And number two.
19:20
Adam
That's why I do number two.
19:22
Drew
That's good. Well, it's better than number one.
19:25
Adam
Well, if you think about it, yeah, it's in, yeah.
19:28
Drew
It's a taller order.
19:29
Adam
And it's bigger than what I got. But go ahead.
19:32
Drew
Anyway, thick beat on that one. Okay. The other thing is lordosis. When women get around, they kind of present and they get a tightening of the muscle in the back and their rear goes up like cats do that. Female cats, when you push on them. And I think women like some stimulation back there too. We were, for this Discovery Health thing.
19:50
Adam
You're talking about the ass now?
19:52
Drew
The back, the low back.
19:53
Adam
But what's that have to do with the urination?
19:55
Drew
I just think other, we're talking about two impulses that women never talked about. For instance, we did this whole thing on the erogenous. All these women were saying, oh, my back is my erogenous. My back, my back, my what? You're, oh, absolutely, back.
20:09
Adam
Well, the other thing too, I think with women, I think we think that the domain of sort of primitive sexualities, all the male domain.
20:21
Moby
Right, oh, I haven't found that to be the case at all.
20:24
Drew
But I think the culture kind of does that.
20:26
Adam
The Neanderthalian sort of approach to sex is reserved for the guys. Women are much more, I don't know, they're much more organic that way in a certain sense. I mean, they probably respond to sense, meaning the way something smells more than a guy does. They probably respond to more, probably more concrete than they are in our sexuality. So why shouldn't they be just as involved with the weird stuff as we are?
20:54
Drew
All sorts of things, yeah.
20:55
Adam
Yeah, they should, in theory, almost be more receptive to it in a weird way. I think society doesn't want to let them be that way.
21:02
Drew
But they don't, they don't want, it's almost like they don't want to talk about it themselves because why don't women discuss it?
21:06
Adam
Right.
21:07
Drew
It's strange.
21:07
Adam
Yeah. Anyway.
21:09
Drew
Anyway, I'm looking for people tonight again for television, for Discovery Health, who've been recently divorced or recently single, who are back on the dating scene and want to tell us about that on television. So call in, we will take those calls.
21:19
Adam
Let's hear a Moby song, shall we?
21:21
Moby
Great. Are we going to play Spiders? Yes.
21:25
Adam
Yes, we are. Off of Hotel.
21:28
Moby
And this is a song that's sort of my homage slash tribute to David Bowie. And if for some reason David Bowie's lawyers happen to be listening, I ask them to please be kind to me. And I know we live in a litigious society, but I'm not looking for any lawsuits. It's just a benign tribute homage to David Bowie.
21:49
Adam
All right, Ziggy, don't sue. This is Spider. Yeah, Moby, everybody. In the studio tonight, Hotel, Name of the CD. And it seemed like David Poby could sue you for that.
25:42
Moby
Yeah, well, there's some liberal use. Like the quote in the chorus is, it's called Spiders, which is sort of based on Ziggy Stardust and the spiders from Mars. So, but again, we do live in a litigious society, so people can sue each other for whatever they so choose.
25:57
Adam
Yeah, but it's uncool and rock and roll to sue Moby. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Because he ain't the man. You know what I'm saying? He's far from the man. All right, quiet down, Drew.
26:07
Drew
Drew's a doctor.
26:09
Adam
He hates everybody.
26:09
Drew
No, I just think the suer would see it that way, but the attorneys might see an opportunity to just...
26:14
Yeah, all right.
26:15
Adam
Listen, he's fine. I'll represent you, Moby. Thank you. We'll take a quick break. When we come back, just got pregnant, awful cramps. How about man boobs?
26:23
Drew
No, no, no. Listen, she's having a miscarriage. I got to talk to her.
26:26
Adam
All right. We'll take a few commercials and we'll talk to her after this. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. A little technical difficulty. Moby here tonight. Moby has himself a CD. It's called Hotel. We'll hear something else off of that in the 11 o'clock hour. When we left off, we were talking about Michelle, who's 22. She just got pregnant. She thinks she's having some difficulties. Michelle?
27:11
Caller
Yeah?
27:12
Adam
What's up?
27:13
Caller
Well, it's my first pregnancy. I'm about 11 weeks and I've been having some cramping really bad and I called my doctor about it and I described what was going on and I had a discharge that it wasn't like red or anything, but it was like a brownish red color and I am sober. I'm a year sober. I did talk about the drugs and drinking and I want to know if that might be maybe some effects and my boys and I are sick.
27:47
Drew
No, no, no. Listen, if you are not using drugs right now, it's not as though residual effects are going to be, the baby is going to be under some residual effect.
27:57
Adam
How about the God punishment factor, Drew? Are you working that in?
28:00
Drew
I'm not working that in just yet, but you're welcome to do so. But Michelle, what did your doctor tell you to do?
28:07
Caller
He just had lots of bed rest. That was about it. And if I saw any spottings to go to a hospital.
28:11
Drew
Yeah, but that brown discharge would qualify as spotting. Did you tell him about the brown discharge?
28:16
Caller
Yeah.
28:17
Drew
He didn't care about that, huh?
28:19
Caller
Apparently not. He just said, you know, bed rest.
28:23
Drew
Bed rest is a good idea, but boy, if you have actual bleeding, this could be an ectopic pregnancy, although it's a little late in the game for that.
28:30
Adam
You mean you'd know it?
28:31
Drew
You'd be in...
28:32
Adam
Eleven weeks is what? Nine months?
28:34
Drew
Nine months. And the possibility of a threatened abortion is here, the threatened miscarriage. So you really... If you get any bleeding at all, I would go to an emergency room.
28:43
Moby
I really would. Do ectopic pregnancies usually happen to people with endometriosis?
28:47
Drew
No, they happen... Endometriosis is more issues with fertility per se. The ectopics are people who have dysfunctions of the fallopian tube, so it's a tubal pregnancy. And they're congenital, meaning you'd be born with dysfunctions of the tube. Most commonly, though, it's infections in the tube, which a lot of people get these days. And they can be from bacteria in the vagina. It could be sexually transmitted diseases. So the tube dysfunction is a very, very common thing. Probably the most common cause would be chlamydia.
29:10
Adam
Where are you at at 11 weeks? What do you got in you? We took it out of you. What would we be seeing at 11 weeks?
29:15
Drew
A little tiny person.
29:16
Adam
Little person?
29:17
Drew
A little lizard.
29:18
Adam
A little lizard?
29:19
Moby
Even at 11 weeks, really?
29:20
Adam
11 weeks, really? Fingers? Gonna be fingers?
29:24
Drew
Let me get the book out and show you what we got.
29:26
Adam
You got something in a book?
29:27
Drew
There'd be the beginning. I mean, by the second trimester, you're in.
29:30
Adam
All right, so we're almost at three months at 11 weeks, right? What do you got? You got digits?
29:35
Drew
I think so.
29:35
Adam
How many nostrils?
29:37
Drew
They've got these brachial pouches that's still, no, they should be gone by then, yeah.
29:41
Adam
Really?
29:42
Drew
Here comes the book. Here we go.
29:42
Adam
All right, we got a book. Oh, it's great. Oh, Nazi war atrocities. This is awesome. Listen, those people, not everything they did was awful. They got some great graphic pictures of what goes on at three months. Drew, you're not gonna find anything at three months.
29:57
Drew
I think you're probably right, but as I recall-
29:59
Adam
Go on the internet.
30:00
Drew
Pretty much a person, a little homunculus.
30:03
Adam
A little homunculus, all right. I think we got one work in the board tonight. Homunculus.
30:09
Okay, got it.
30:09
Moby
The plural of homunculus would be homunculi.
30:11
Adam
Homunculi.
30:12
Caller
Here we go.
30:12
Moby
Do you know how they used to try to make homunculi back in the good old days of alchemy? They would take a test tube and put some semen and cow manure in the test tube and bury it by the light of a full moon, and they maintained it. If you came back three months later, there'd be a tiny little homunculus at the bottom of the test tube.
30:29
Drew
Really?
30:29
Moby
So I encourage the listeners to try that.
30:31
Drew
Here's five weeks.
30:32
Moby
It's a healthy experiment.
30:33
Adam
No, five weeks, you look like a baby hamster.
30:37
Drew
Yes.
30:37
Adam
Right?
30:37
Drew
Yeah.
30:38
Adam
That's five weeks.
30:39
Moby
Yeah, but that's not exactly to scale.
30:42
Adam
Right, right.
30:42
Moby
That's a very large looking hamster.
30:45
Adam
All right. Ooh, I like the tail. What goes on with this tail, Drew?
30:48
Drew
It goes away.
30:49
Adam
It goes away?
30:50
Moby
It helps you to stabilize yourself in the womb. You can swim around with the tail.
30:54
Adam
Do you eat it? Where does it go? Does your mom crap it out?
30:57
Drew
Your ass moves down around it, basically.
30:59
Adam
Oh, I see. It stays and we fill it in.
31:01
Drew
There you go.
31:02
Adam
Okay. And then where are you, so at five weeks, you look like just a little little hamster.
31:08
Drew
Just at 10 weeks, quite a bit more developed.
31:10
Adam
Wow.
31:11
Drew
11 weeks.
31:11
Adam
Wow. Well, homunculus.
31:13
Drew
Can I have a look at that?
31:14
Adam
You ready to rock here, Drew?
31:15
Drew
No, I'm busy looking at these pictures. Hang on. Here we go.
31:17
Adam
We gotta talk to, let's talk to man boobs.
31:19
Drew
Oh, we lost the one I want to talk to.
31:21
Adam
Aaron?
31:22
Hi Adam. Hi Drew. Hi Moby.
31:24
Drew
Hi.
31:24
Adam
What's happening?
31:25
22? I don't know how much info you have, but I'm the soccer accident guy who lost a testicle. I talked to you guys last week, last month. And since I talked to you last, I had the prosthetic nut put in and I've been putting on a bunch of weight and I'm developing man boobs.
31:45
Moby
Can I just, I don't anyway want to make light of this because it's a serious thing, but a prosthetic nut, if you could have an acronym, it would be peanut.
31:53
Adam
Yeah, that's good.
31:54
Moby
That's good.
31:55
Adam
Homunculi, peanut.
31:57
Drew
All kinds of great things today.
32:00
Adam
Go ahead. So you had, what's it made out of?
32:03
It's polyurethane.
32:05
Adam
All right. And I'm thinking I don't, I didn't have one removed, but I am thinking about putting a third one in, just in case I do lose one that I'm right.
32:12
Drew
When you're right.
32:13
I'm right. Just insurance, yeah.
32:15
Adam
And so you had it put in and now you start growing man boobs. Are you connecting it to this prosthesis?
32:23
Well, what I'm thinking is that my drop in testosterone is causing something to flare up inside and I'm developing a rack, I guess.
32:33
Drew
No. No.
32:35
We don't believe you.
32:36
Adam
We don't believe you.
32:38
Drew
This thing was put in three weeks ago?
32:39
Adam
No, Aaron's fault.
32:41
No, no, no. I had the prosthetic put in in the middle of February. That's when I last talked to you guys. I don't know if you even remember me.
32:50
Drew
I thought you said it was a month ago.
32:52
Well, that was six weeks ago.
32:53
Moby
That's when the man boobs in the middle of February.
32:56
Adam
No, I remember this. I remember everyone who ever called this show except for tonight.
33:01
Drew
Six weeks ago. And then what's happened since then?
33:03
Since the middle of February, I've put on about 25 pounds.
33:08
Drew
And six weeks. Well, first of all, putting on...
33:11
And I'm just like quick background. I've always been very skinny, almost spindly. And it's like I've never been able to gain weight. I eat a lot. And now all of a sudden, since the nut came out... All right.
33:25
Adam
Hold on a second. Let's... I got a theory. I know it sounds bizarre. Maybe the nut never went in, maybe breast implants instead. Sometimes your chart gets swapped at the cosmetic surgery center. Interesting, Drew. That's a lawsuit. Plus there's some actress walking around with a nut.
33:43
Moby
On her labia?
33:44
Adam
On her labia, yeah. Cause you know, when the charts get mixed up, they got to do the other one too. All right. So Drew, you get a nut removed. You still should have enough testosterone, shouldn't you?
33:57
Drew
Absolutely. That one wasn't producing testosterone anyway. I wonder if somehow the shock of surgery...
34:01
Adam
Why wasn't that one producing testosterone?
34:03
Drew
Cause he had it, it was, it died.
34:05
Adam
No, he got a soccer accident.
34:06
Moby
Right.
34:07
Drew
It was crushed or something.
34:08
Adam
Well, I know, but before it was crushed, wasn't it producing something?
34:11
Drew
Yes, before it was crushed, but the soccer accident was long ago.
34:14
Adam
I thought the soccer accident was...
34:17
Moby
Oh, we could ask.
34:19
Adam
All right. We could ask. Ryan.
34:21
Yeah.
34:22
Drew
No, no, Aaron.
34:22
Wrong question.
34:23
Drew
Sorry, Ryan.
34:23
Adam
Sorry, Aaron. Sorry. Aaron, when was the soccer accident?
34:27
It was December 28th, right before New Year's.
34:32
Drew
Okay. And they didn't test your testosterone levels after the procedure? Or recently?
34:37
Not recently since the prosthetic went in, no.
34:41
Drew
Why not?
34:42
I don't know. I've gone to the doctor when they told me to and things like that. I have the follow-ups afterwards.
34:48
Drew
And you've been saying, I think something's happened to me. I'm losing my testosterone, peripheral testosterone effects. What could be happening? And they blew you off.
34:59
No, no. Well, when I went back to the doctor after the boobs started manifesting, I went in and my doctor almost started laughing at me and it was really uncomfortable and things like that. So.
35:14
Drew
No. It doesn't make any sense at all.
35:16
Adam
It feels very bogus, Aaron.
35:18
Well, yeah, it is. It is.
35:20
Drew
Yeah. Thank you.
35:21
All right.
35:23
Moby
If you were to lose a testicle and have a drop in testosterone, what other symptoms would you have?
35:29
Drew
If you lose a testicle, your other testicle picks up quite nicely. There's nothing. What I was trying to build a case for is maybe somehow that was manipulated during surgery inadvertently and maybe there was some transient drop, there would not be a permanent drop.
35:40
Adam
I got another theory.
35:41
Drew
But if you lost both your testes, what was the question?
35:44
Moby
If for some reason.
35:45
Drew
Your testosterone shut off. Let's say you got a pituitary tumor producing prolactin that shuts your testosterone down. Usually those tumors actually occur sort of before puberty or often they do. And even if they don't, the fact is your sex drive goes away, you start feeling less aggressive, more sort of docile, you're not interested in girls anymore, you're not interested in competing. There's a great book out there called Man-Made about a guy that had a tumor going through adolescence and how he felt.
36:10
Adam
I thought it was a sitcom about a gay maid. That would be funny. It moves in with a family of Jehovah's Witnesses. That's funny.
36:19
Drew
Man-Made, M-A-T-E, not M-A-I-D.
36:21
Adam
Yeah, but a flamboyant black guy.
36:23
Moby
It would be funny.
36:24
Adam
And I think the family of Jehovah's Witnesses, that would be funny.
36:26
Moby
I think that would be really good, yeah.
36:28
Drew
But he talks about how he liked girls, but he wasn't really that into it in sports, he could never really compete. He got the tumor out, it's a brain tumor, and his testosterone levels came up, and he describes how when he sort of came to life out of this, he was like, couldn't believe it, he wanted to chase goats to the fields and rip their throats out with his teeth. He became a professional hockey player, and he became quite the swordsman with the ladies.
36:50
Adam
Yeah, without saying c**tman on the air, because they do say that.
36:54
Moby
I think c**tman, c**tman.
36:56
Adam
That's right, worked on a boat. All right, let me say a couple of things. Theory number one, I say that the replacement testy they put in him weighed 25 pounds, and that's where the weight came from. They put a cannonball inside, put a medicine ball in his sack. So what I'm doing, I would definitely go bigger if I...
37:18
Drew
Well, let's just fill your sack, put a medicine ball in there. Yeah, to be honest here.
37:22
Adam
I don't even want a replacement testicle, I want compressed air.
37:28
Drew
Get back to the clown's mouth thing.
37:29
Adam
And God forbid there's ever a maritime disaster. Who's covered?
37:34
Drew
Yeah, you're sack.
37:34
Moby
But you would drown because you'd just be floating.
37:36
Drew
All the way down.
37:37
Moby
The Coast Guard would come by and there's big, distended sack floating on top.
37:41
Adam
I'd crawl on top, and I would save a few lucky gents for the water with me. The other thing, Drew, is I would like to convince each testy that the other one was gone. So they started producing.
37:54
Moby
Testosterone, but too much testosterone isn't such a fun thing.
37:58
Adam
I would just like to do it for six months.
38:00
Moby
You guys both have all your hair, which is great, and I congratulate you for it.
38:04
Drew
What he's saying is he has more testosterone.
38:07
Adam
Well, he does.
38:07
Drew
That's right.
38:08
Moby
And yes, I mean, if you want more testosterone, suddenly you have to say goodbye to your hair.
38:12
Adam
Well, that's true. Yeah. Well, we'll be like hairy chicks. It'll be awesome.
38:17
Drew
You might lose that hair in your ass then.
38:18
Adam
Oh, Drew, how dare you? Right in front of it too. Moby, I'll tell you the great thing. There's no, you kids don't know how lucky you have it today with the wear your hair however you wanted to wear it. Because Moby, you're not an old man, but not a screwy chicken.
38:36
Moby
I'm not a young man either.
38:37
Adam
But when did the hair start to thin out for you?
38:40
Moby
The hair started thinning about 12 years ago.
38:43
Adam
And what age were you, if you don't mind me asking?
38:46
Moby
I'm 39 now, so that was like late 20s.
38:48
Adam
All right, so late 20s, the hair starts thinning. And as it does with guys, it starts thinning around the top and the sides seem to be okay.
38:56
Moby
But something I just have to point out, because radio's not really a visual medium. While you were doing that, not just for the benefit of the people listening, you were caressing Drew's head.
39:03
Adam
Oh yeah.
39:04
Drew
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Well he does that anyway.
39:06
Adam
So you should see where my big toe is. I'll let you smell it during the break. The point-
39:11
Drew
Remember that river you mentioned at the beginning?
39:13
Moby
Oh yeah.
39:13
Adam
The point is, you would, now see in the 70s, if you were a rocker or in the music industry, you would have to grow a ponytail with what was left of your hair, and then you look like David Crosby, just some sort of maniac.
39:25
Drew
Not just a ponytail, you'd have to have some sort of weird mad scientist stuff coming out the side.
39:30
Adam
Yeah, you'd look like a knickknack from Rocky Horror Picture Show or something.
39:35
Moby
And now, thank goodness, the precedent has been set for musicians with shaved heads. Otherwise, I'd be sunk.
39:42
Adam
Oh, if this was 1973, you'd have crazy bozo hair. You'd have to have 14-inch hair, except for nothing on top. Yeah, it was horrible. Remember those weird bald guys who would have to have like ponytails?
39:54
Drew
Bozo is the perfect description.
39:56
Adam
It was horrible.
39:57
Drew
Bozo actually looked a little better, a little more grown.
39:59
Adam
Well, there was a context. All right, Moby here tonight with the shaved head and Ladies Love. We'll take a quick break. Hotel, name of the CD. We'll be right back after this.
40:09
Hey, how you doing?
40:11
Ooh, look at your hair. Hello, this is your radio.
40:14
Love Line will be ready.
40:41
Adam
Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Moby, in studio tonight. Hotel, name of the new CD. Go to www.mobyquietdrew.com. Drew has this, no matter how many times we discuss it, Drew has this weird impulse to jump in in the middle of me giving address.
41:01
Drew
I was just telling you, just telling you how I'd like to say something.
41:03
Adam
I know, and that was good. Yelled your hand. Oftentimes, you will pop in when I'm giving the name of the book or the album or whatever. It's weird.
41:10
Drew
It's not good.
41:11
Adam
Go ahead, go ahead.
41:12
Drew
Looking for newly singly divorced couples.
41:13
Adam
I didn't want to say this about the newly... No, go ahead.
41:17
Drew
For Discovery Health Channel. Newly divorced for single couples who are starting to... Single people are trying to start a date again and come on television and talk about their experiences and also young married couples for this program. So thank you.
41:27
Adam
I saw... So obviously, the Pope passed on over the weekend and I saw a guy who was an expert on sainthood being interviewed on the evening news.
41:40
Moby
I was wondering where you were going to go with this because I was like... It seems like I'm just wondering if it's a little too early for Pope jokes. Well, I'm... My opinion notwithstanding, but it's just...
41:49
Adam
No, it is. Well, here's the deal. I'm trying to think with like making... Because obviously, at a certain point, you can make fun of... We'll be able to do John Benet Ramsey jokes and our kids will, God willing. No, I'm just saying, once you get... No, maybe our kids' kids. Once the person would have been dead by natural causes anyway, you're allowed to do whatever you want.
42:10
Moby
A little bit of time and distance.
42:11
Adam
Yeah, yeah. People do jokes about the Lindbergh baby. It was a little baby, right? You can do a joke about that because it would have been dead by now, right? All right. And who knows what kind of damage you would have done as a teen, you know what I'm saying?
42:25
Drew
Yeah, yeah.
42:27
Adam
We can speculate, but we can joke about that. Now, you're not supposed to make jokes about people who just died, but I say if they're over 80, it's almost game on.
42:37
Drew
Because it's their normal life expectancy.
42:40
Adam
Yeah, they made it. So much of the...
42:42
Drew
I hope when I get there that that's in fact what will happen.
42:44
Adam
So much as...
42:45
Drew
Immediately begin joking.
42:46
Adam
Sadness of dying. I'll organize the roast.
42:49
Drew
Thank you, thank you.
42:50
Adam
Drew up there in a casket, more animated than he is on the show, by the way. Deceased. Yeah, but the point... Yeah, my point is, no, I don't have a Pope joke, but when they're talking about the qualifications of becoming sainted, I saw an expert on like, you know, Nightline or something. And it's like, they have guys to sit around. It's like, first off, it's five years. You have to be dead for five years before you can be reviewed, which is funny because it's the same period for the Baseball Hall of Fame. Oh my God. It's really a Hall of Fame. But it's... And I'm sure they came first. I'm sure, you know, the Pro Football Hall of Fame, the Baseball Hall of Fame probably ripped them off. But essentially, you got to be retired or dead. In terms of being sainted, you need to be dead for five years. And then, they need to verify miracles. And they need to. And they argue about them. Like, there's this thing where, like, I think Mother Teresa should be sainted. How come? Well, one time when she was in Sri Lanka, this chick had a big tumor, she came up to her and she put her hand on her belly and said, my child, you're cured. And the chick was cured later on. And someone is like, yeah, I don't know. She was doing some chemo too, so that doesn't really count. And then they argue over whether things are miracles or not. And if you get two confirmed kills under your belt, then you can move on to sainthood, which is, which is comical. But it's funny when they're just sort of adults, educated adults and they're sitting around and they're going, yeah, I wouldn't call that a miracle, maybe a mini miracle, but not, not really because she was undergoing some, she was talking to her oncologist during the time she actually met the Pope. So I don't think his hand laying upon her abdomen really did it. And then people argue over other things and they need, things need to be confirmed. Do you have a picture of that miracle? Well, we need an affidavit from the Guatemalan chick whose tumor was cured by the Pope. Can we get her in here?
44:47
Drew
And by the tumors, the, the, the tumors, the miracles are never true feats outside of natural forces. They're always things that are speculated to be impossible, to be becoming possible. It's impossible for her to cure it, and she got cured.
45:01
Adam
Here's what I want. Get out the video camera, he takes his staff, he points it at a shrub, it bursts into flames. That's one. I'm counting that one. If, when we gotta look around, make sure there's no pyrotechnics involved or anything.
45:15
Moby
But I wonder if before someone, like someone who might be a candidate for sainthood before they die, if they maybe sort of like fabricate some like stunts that might-
45:23
Adam
I would definitely work something up.
45:24
Moby
You know, like get someone to like, get some sort of like fake prosthetic tumor.
45:28
Adam
Yeah.
45:29
Moby
And you come up and put your hand on it.
45:31
Drew
Then you're those guys-
45:31
Moby
You just happen to have the video camera there.
45:32
Drew
Right, then you're one of those guys that does operations with knives.
45:36
Adam
I'm just, I'm with Moby. If I knew I was on the cusp of sainthood and close to the grave, I would-
45:45
Drew
You'd figure something out.
45:45
Adam
I'd bring a couple of Patsy's in, work out a tumor too, just to play it safe. Cause what I would like is like six or eight miracles. And then they could still shoot holes in three or four of them, still be left with a handful. Okay.
45:58
Drew
Good times.
45:58
Adam
All right. I just like the idea that someone's like, hey, I want to make Mother Teresa saint. No way. Are you high? Please, what has that bitch done for anybody? What the deuce? Come on. You let Mother Teresa in, you open the floodgates. Let's see if Pete Rose wants to be sainted. Come on, let's go people. Let's focus now.
46:19
Moby
And also, you know how like once someone's royalty, they can sell their title? Yeah. Like if you're the Viscount of Gloucester, you can sell your Viscount-ness to some like I don't know, guy who sells used cars in Toledo.
46:29
Adam
That's how my dad became the Viscount of Gloucester.
46:32
Drew
Nice.
46:32
Moby
But I wonder if you can sell sainthood. Like suppose like your dad. Yeah, the family falls on hard times and like their great, great, great, great grand uncle was a saint. So can you sell their sainthood to, I don't know, Donald Trump or Bill Gates?
46:45
Adam
You don't need to sell it. Just imagine the endorsement deals that would roll in.
46:48
Moby
Yeah.
46:49
Adam
Yeah. Forget about winning the World Series. Put you on, put you on the Wheaties. Cracker companies, that's a natural. Just do the math, you know, sacrament. All right, we'll take a quick break. Engineer Chris has no idea what happened in this show.
47:05
Caller
We'll take a quick break.
47:06
Adam
Moby, the thought provoking Moby in studio tonight. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Moby in studio tonight. We have the interesting, thought-provoking, Moby, nice guy. Nice guy.
47:48
Moby
It's mighty kind of you to say.
47:50
Adam
I like nice people. And a gentle person. I was...
47:54
Moby
But filled with testosterone, as we've...
47:56
Drew
And narcissistic, as we play.
47:57
Moby
And narcissistic, yeah. Narcissistic, gentle person with no hair, filled with testosterone.
48:01
Adam
No, he's seething with testosterone. His hair didn't... It's passionate.
48:06
Moby
Yeah, that's the priapism.
48:07
Adam
Hair did not fall out, it got shot out. Actually, like a bloat gun, you know.
48:14
Moby
I ran screaming from my head.
48:16
Adam
Yeah, it just blew out of there, so much testosterone pumping.
48:19
Moby
Don't do drugs.
48:21
Adam
Yes. All right, where are we, Drew?
48:23
Drew
Start with number four.
48:25
Adam
I was watching a commercial last night. I saw a commercial for, I don't know, some medication for venereal warts or herpes or something. They're doing a lot of, now it's fair game with the medication.
48:38
Drew
That's game on.
48:39
Adam
The boner stuff sort of paved the way for all the other stuff you got going in your pants. And everyone said, look, they can advertise stuff for boners, what about for crabs or herpes or-
48:47
Drew
Really important things, chlamydia and stuff.
48:48
Adam
Chlamydia or gonorrhea. And so whenever you see the commercial, it's usually always about going, the person is going about their business. They're never in a fetal position crying on the phone, crying and blaming. They're going about their business. And now they got their partner with them, although it's unclear if that's the person they got it from. And it's usually implied that this guy has it, but he's still moving on with his life. He's got a beautiful lady with him. And I was thinking, you know, it's kind of a bad gig as an actor. Like you'd much rather be the brawny lumberjack than you would be the guy stricken with the vanilla warts. But worst gig, the girlfriend. Who are you, the actors? No, I'm the chick who's staying with the guy who cheated on me with the General Awards, or whatever the math is. Just being the actress who's with the guy with the General Awards. I say worst gig. Great. All right, hypothetical for both of you. I've asked this. Which would you rather?
49:47
Drew
For a million dollars.
49:48
Adam
Now listen, I'm gonna paint a very graphic picture, but we don't need to ask any questions. This is a strip club. Here's the hypothetical. There's a strip club. The strip club, there are no lap dances going on at this strip club.
50:01
Moby
Okay, so it's an out of business strip club.
50:02
Adam
Right. It doesn't exist anymore. Only my hypothetical world. It's a little, little bit.
50:07
Drew
It used to exist in Los Angeles during a brief period of...
50:09
Adam
Yeah, I used to go to a place like this. This is a place, it's kind of a flash dance type. It's a PG-13R rated movie strip club. Three dances, topless. Top comes off on the third dance, lights lower. No grabbing, no face plants, nothing like that. No...
50:28
Moby
Is this in one of the red states?
50:30
Adam
This is, this would be in a red state, yeah. All right, now...
50:33
Drew
Moby objects.
50:34
Adam
Now, this is club. Now, your daughter either dances at this club or she's the one who runs out there with the Windex bottle to clean off the mirror and put the Purell on the pole and wipe that down, desanitize the club.
50:49
Moby
That's the question?
50:50
Adam
Yeah, about every, about every second or third dancer, she's got to run out there like the guy fall as the elephant when the circus comes down.
50:55
Drew
You have explained to me that in these, now, when we talk to people on this show that they're calling, that are strippers, they're usually full-fledged strippers. So I've never really talked to one of these women that does the sort of bikini dance and thing. But you've dated one of those. And you've educated me that...
51:10
Adam
But don't bring the baggage. Don't bring the emotional baggage with you.
51:13
Drew
I'm just saying. You've educated me that that is not as... I don't want to use too strong a word. Troubled a group, diverse a group. So yes, I'll go for the dancer.
51:23
Adam
You're going dancer.
51:24
Moby
So she's just... I think it's hard without a little more detail. Like what's she doing with the money? Is she giving it to her like deadbeat musician boyfriend? Or is she saving it to buy insulin for a child?
51:34
Adam
Yeah, that's the part you have to do your own math on. But let's just assume that the money's just going to...
51:41
Moby
Well, the thing is I've known a lot of dancers. And none of them seem particularly happy with their line of work.
51:47
Drew
No, no, but that's true. But at least if somebody is a dancer, they may have other capacities to maneuver through life.
51:54
Moby
I would go with the woman cleaning the pole with the Purell. Because I think that she's going to be able to go home and fall asleep next to her boyfriend and not feel bad about it.
52:05
Drew
Not hate men.
52:06
Adam
What about if she runs out on stage and there's some guy, some drunken guy yelling, you missed a spot, sweetie.
52:15
Moby
If she was my daughter, I would have taught her martial arts at an early age. She could wait in the parking lot form and crush his trachea with her foot. I like that.
52:23
Adam
All right.
52:23
Moby
I'm going Moby.
52:24
Adam
All right. Hey, Hazel, you missed a cheek smudge spot on the mirror. I just started laughing. She's always got a little, her ass is a little too big to strip and she's wearing the black tights, you know, and hoping it goes away. Which one? So I'm gonna make this in.
52:41
Moby
I'm gonna go with-
52:42
Adam
You're going with the mop.
52:43
Moby
Because I think long-term has the chance of emerging less scathe. Yes.
52:48
Drew
Okay.
52:48
Adam
She's not bringing down the kind of money. That's not the kind of money.
52:52
Moby
But then again, I've never known dancers to be really responsible when it comes to money. Some are. I don't want to cast aspersions on all of them.
52:58
Adam
This is your daughter. She would be more responsible with that money.
53:01
Drew
When you start doing that, then it becomes, well, she wouldn't be a dancer, so.
53:03
Adam
Well, but in my hypothetical world, she's got to dance or clean up after the dancer. Drew, which is it?
53:10
Drew
The cleanup.
53:11
Adam
Cleanup? You've now changed.
53:13
Drew
Changed.
53:13
Adam
All right. All right. Who's going to tell your daughter? I have to talk to her. All right. Daddy says you're going to mop up after Stray Kids. I'm sorry, sweetie. All right. Drew, seriously. And then, oh, and then it's, it's a bachelor party.
53:28
Drew
You're going to make it worse?
53:29
Adam
And the whipped cream comes out. And she's spraying the whipped cream around. It's getting on the floor. She's got to come in and mop it off.
53:35
Moby
Tears falling. But we've been to bachelor parties and we've seen the sort of the barter. What women who get hired to work bachelor parties have to put up with. I'm going to go with the clean up person because.
53:46
Adam
No idea.
53:48
Drew
I've never seen.
53:49
Moby
No, it's like degrading misogyny at its worst.
53:54
Adam
They drink a.
53:54
Drew
And you go.
53:55
Moby
What's that?
53:56
Drew
You've gone.
53:56
Moby
I've been to a few, yeah.
53:57
A few.
53:58
Adam
Yeah.
53:58
Drew
Oh my goodness.
53:59
Adam
Drew's bachelor party, they drink Pepsi free and play Connect Four. And then at about 8.45 someone yawns really big.
54:09
And then everyone goes, well, my pager's going off.
54:12
Moby
That's me for the night.
54:13
Adam
Better call it a night.
54:14
Drew
Campari and Mr. Pibb.
54:18
Adam
Drew's not allowed to go to bachelor parties. Moby to bachelor party. I picture Moby just getting ripped and maybe hopping on a couple of strippers or something like that.
54:28
Drew
He's clued us in to the passion.
54:29
Moby
I've got a dirty past.
54:30
Adam
Really?
54:31
Moby
Yeah. A very, very boring present but a dirty past.
54:33
Drew
That's why guys like that can't go to those kinds of parties, you see.
54:36
Adam
When it, oh, getting a little cathartic for Drew. It is true that when it comes to a male sexuality especially, just hard to judge a book by its cover. It really is. Moby, obviously a man of passion. Drew, a man of exquisite passion. Me who people think is some sort of escaped mental patient, pedophile, rapist, lunatic is really sort of boring.
55:01
Moby
You just want to be held?
55:02
Adam
Yeah, and beat off.
55:03
Moby
You want to just beat off. Much more boring.
55:05
Adam
Yeah. Tony?
55:08
Yeah, what's going on, man?
55:10
Adam
22. What's up, man? What's going on? Tony?
55:16
Moby
Hey, Tony.
55:17
How's it going, bro?
55:18
Adam
Yeah, what's that?
55:21
Just kidding, what are we doing for it now? Basically, I'm a 22-year-old sex addict addicted to prostitution, mostly, massage places, few escorts, a lot of street hookers, kind of things like that. And the thing is, it's costing me a lot of money.
55:39
Adam
What's a street hooker, Rania, these days for intercourse?
55:43
Oh, for intercourse.
55:46
Drew
Which he never bothers with, by the way.
55:48
Adam
What do you get, oral sex?
55:50
Mostly, yeah, from street hookers, I get oral.
55:54
Adam
What's that, Rania?
55:56
I can get it from anywhere as low as $10 to maybe $300.
56:01
Drew
Oh, $300.
56:02
Adam
And what kind of gratuity do you do on $10? Do you make him like a $1.70 or what? I mean, you're supposed to tip at a $10. I think you can round up.
56:13
Moby
Round up. I mean, like, you don't have to stick to that 17% law.
56:16
Adam
Oh, really?
56:17
Moby
Yeah, there's like a minimum shelf at $5.
56:19
Adam
I see. Okay, so you might, so my $10 BJ would cost you $15. Okay.
56:24
Well, depending on how good she is, yeah, I would.
56:26
Adam
Oh, right, right. Of course. Yeah, you don't want to, you don't want to pay that.
56:29
The problem now is just that, basically, what it comes down to is, I do want to stop this. It's getting really bad. And every time I try to stop it and save money, when I make enough, I will be right back out there again, trying to...
56:44
Drew
Have you been addicted to any chemicals ever in the past?
56:46
No, surprisingly, no, I have not.
56:49
Moby
Can I ask an odd question? If, I mean, I don't understand the difference between sex addiction and sex enthusiasm, because it seems like if you're in a relationship that you would be with someone who would also have a lot of enthusiasm for sex and you wouldn't have to pay anything and it would be safe and you could have a nice, loving, fantastic sex life.
57:07
Adam
What about it, Drew?
57:09
Drew
Let's let him answer that. Why can't he do that?
57:10
Adam
He's not going to answer that.
57:11
That's just the problem. I'm kind of shallow. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry to say that, but I'm a real shallow kind of person. I really want to, you know, I am seeing, well, talk to Dayton, you know, a really fantastic girl. She's really, really cool. But, you know, physically, she just doesn't really do it for me on that level.
57:34
Adam
Well, here's all, we got a bad connection. I'm going to put them on hold. I'll answer for Moby's question for Tony, which is there's no thrill in doing whatever to the same person over and over and over again. There needs to be a thrill.
57:48
Drew
There's a thrill seeking part here. It's a rather complex issue because on one hand, it may be that if he does find somebody that really turns him on, it would create a level of intimacy that he couldn't tolerate. So that's really what this is about, is being unable to be in a real relationship. Secondly, it is a, as Adam has mentioned, it needs a certain level of intensity. That usually these guys that get sexually addicted kind of keep upping the ante in terms of what it is they're going for.
58:12
Moby
Because it's just my experience is the most exciting, thrilling sex I've ever had has been in stable, committed relationships where I've known the person really well, and you can actually get very experimental and it's very intimate. It's like physically a lot more interesting, emotionally a lot more interesting.
58:26
Adam
Well, yeah, you're healthy. Well, no, I mean, it's sort of like saying, look, I enjoy a cocktail in the social situation, but I don't understand why you drink at 8 a.m. before you went to work.
58:38
Drew
It's like, well, he's got a problem.
58:40
Adam
That's why he does it. I love booze, sex, you like booze and sex, but you don't have to go with prostitutes.
58:46
Drew
Environmental reasons for this, the most common reason environmentally to trigger this stuff is some sort of kind of like Tony would have premature sexual experiences, like before the age of 11 kind of thing.
58:55
Adam
Tony?
58:56
Yeah, exactly. Dr. Drew was saying that premature, I was molested by my grandmother when I was about four or five.
59:03
Drew
Yeah, I'm sorry. So that's what triggers this.
59:05
Adam
Grandmother.
59:05
Drew
So why is this in?
59:07
Moby
Yeah. Is there any way to go into couples? Like if you're in a relationship that seems really supportive and something you want to stick to, can you go into therapy with your partner?
59:15
Drew
No, that would have little effect on this. He would be useful in the context of a more global treatment plan for his addiction. The place to start, Tony, is maybe if you're in LA, the Delamo Treatment Center has got a lot of people expert in treating sexual compulsion, sexual addiction. So I would check that out.
59:31
Adam
And by the way, talk about spinning a compass, 13 and then listen, I don't want to, again, I don't label, but Jewish or Asian?
59:44
Neither.
59:45
Adam
Oh, okay. Wait a minute. What? What is it?
59:49
Mexican-Irish.
59:50
Adam
Shocking. Okay. I know almost 100% on these things. Once in a while, I'm wrong. It's usually the Asians and the Jews that do that.
59:58
Moby
But if it's a result of like early childhood sexual trauma, it's certainly not shallow behavior.
1:00:03
Drew
No, I was sort of amused at the way our culture would like to cast these things out as shallowness. I'm just into physical things. No, it's far more complex than that. And it's much more poignant than that, too. It's much more human than that.
1:00:15
Adam
Well, here's the thing. Almost all sort of fiddling or tampering with a child manifests itself sexually at some point. And it's almost always a bad thing.
1:00:25
Drew
Yes. The things that terrorize in childhood are converted into attraction in adulthood.
1:00:31
Adam
Right. So grandmother having relations with you is a good nine and a half on a sort of F meter when it comes to a kid.
1:00:40
Drew
Yes.
1:00:41
Adam
I mean, and boys are usually a little more durable emotionally as kids. Grandma coming at him that direction has got to be enough just to spin him around. So of course you then get into this. As a matter of fact, he probably could be worse off.
1:00:55
Drew
Oh, yeah.
1:00:56
Adam
He could be killing these people when he's done with them. Tony.
1:01:00
Yes.
1:01:01
Adam
What did, what, with your grandmother, did you have sex with her?
1:01:04
No, it was nothing like that. As far as I can remember, basically.
1:01:08
Adam
Just a little making out, some handholding.
1:01:10
I remember a lot of fondling.
1:01:11
Adam
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
1:01:13
I remember having a body part.
1:01:15
Adam
Oh, God knows what was done to her 60 years before that. Right. Is she-
1:01:21
Drew
In Tony's case, 45 years.
1:01:23
Right.
1:01:24
Adam
Is she still alive?
1:01:26
Yeah. She's still alive. This is all from my, stems from my mother's side of the family, which is just totally effed up family. All right.
1:01:35
Adam
Irish or Mexican?
1:01:37
They're the Irish part.
1:01:38
Adam
Oh, that's a nice twist. All right. Okay. All right, there.
1:01:42
Drew
Well, Tony, Zalamo, if you don't want to go to the facility, 12-Step SA, you can call just any AA program and ask for a referral to SA.
1:01:50
Adam
Yeah, the thing about any form, I think, you know, everyone always talks about math and booze and stuff like that, but gambling, sex, those will take you down about as fast.
1:02:01
Drew
Sure, absolutely, and people are even more ashamed of those, and so it's harder to get them to treatment, but if they go to a 12-step meeting, they'll find people, dozens, with their story, exactly what they have been dealing with, and people that will support them through it.
1:02:16
Adam
Germany or Florida?
1:02:16
Drew
Yes.
1:02:17
Adam
All right.
1:02:17
Drew
Need a break.
1:02:18
Adam
Erin?
1:02:19
Drew
Yeah.
1:02:20
Adam
You're 16?
1:02:21
Drew
Yep.
1:02:21
Adam
You want to play a little Germany or Florida?
1:02:23
Caller
Yes, I do.
1:02:24
Adam
Moby, here's how the game goes. All bizarre stories. Oh, this is awesome. All bizarre stories either emanate from Germany or Florida. We've learned from doing this program. They tell us the story and then we guess. Is it Germany or Florida? Oh, and by the way...
1:02:40
Moby
Do we all get to guess?
1:02:41
Adam
We all get to guess. We all, excluding engineer Chris, who's... Hey, Erin?
1:02:47
Yeah?
1:02:48
Adam
Hold on one second. Anderson, I ran into David Allen Grier Thursday night.
1:02:53
Drew
He emailed me too.
1:02:54
Shut up!
1:02:55
Adam
He was angry that we weren't playing his Germany or Florida theme. I, of course, blamed it on Anderson. But now, and it is his fault, now I'm going to ask Anderson to go ahead and find David Allen Grier, or DAG, or my name and... It's Germany or Florida! There we go.
1:03:17
Moby
That was fantastic. It was been a half the night working on that.
1:03:19
Adam
Awesome. All right, Erin, go ahead.
1:03:22
Moby
Okay.
1:03:23
Caller
The all-time record holder for eating the most would appear to be a 23-year-old fashion model. At what turned out to be her last meal, the young woman managed to put away 19 pounds of food, one pound of liver, two pounds of kidney, a half pound of steak, one pound of cheese, two eggs, two thick slices of bread, one cauliflower, 10 peaches, four pears, two apples, four bananas, two pounds each of plums, carrots, and grapes, and two glasses of milk, whereupon her stomach blew and she died.
1:03:53
It's just doesn't blow.
1:03:54
Drew
Yeah, there's no such thing as that.
1:03:56
Adam
Drew, what happened to stomach pumping? It was so popular when I was young.
1:04:01
Drew
That's really when they invented the NG tube, nasogastric tube, and the between.
1:04:04
Adam
Rod Stewart had to have his stomach pumped because he ingested so much semen.
1:04:08
Caller
Yeah.
1:04:09
I love that one.
1:04:10
Adam
Oh, by the way, hypothetical, you're a celebrity. Are you Richard Gere with someone put a gerbil in your ass or you're Rod Stewart with the ingested so much semen had to have his stomach pumped?
1:04:22
Moby
Rod Stewart, as far as street cred, as far as I can, I think I'd have to go with Richard Gere as well.
1:04:31
Adam
Yeah, I go Gere too, although you do get the PETA guys on your ass in that case.
1:04:35
Drew
It wasn't your fault though.
1:04:37
Moby
So her story, my guess is based, it's based on one thing, the cauliflower. Cauliflower is quite popular in Germany.
1:04:46
Adam
Ah, not in Florida. She said kidneys too.
1:04:48
Drew
The older animal parts are also non-Floridian parts.
1:04:52
Moby
I can't imagine a fashion model in Florida being really into cauliflower.
1:04:55
Drew
No. Or anything else that was eaten here.
1:04:58
Adam
Hey Erin.
1:04:59
Caller
Yeah?
1:04:59
Adam
So she was a model?
1:05:00
Caller
Yep.
1:05:01
Adam
And why did she put away all this in some sort of competition?
1:05:04
It doesn't say.
1:05:05
Adam
Okay.
1:05:06
Drew
This is like from the, you know, national quire or something crazy.
1:05:08
Adam
The giblets part leads us, and the cauliflower part leads us to believe Germany, although peaches. I think we're all going Germany on this one. Gentlemen?
1:05:18
Drew
Germany.
1:05:18
Moby
Germany.
1:05:19
Adam
Aaron?
1:05:19
Moby
Germany.
1:05:20
Adam
Florida. Florida. Damn.
1:05:24
Drew
Brutal.
1:05:24
Caller
Liar, liar whore, liar whore, you know it.
1:05:27
Adam
Wow, Moby, please.
1:05:29
Drew
Now with that must have been Florida, must have been somebody who went and puked repeatedly during this whole experience and eventually died of some electrolyte problem.
1:05:37
Adam
Interesting. All right, but her stomach exploded, right?
1:05:39
Drew
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
1:05:40
Adam
All right, Aaron, thanks for calling the show. You stumped us all. If you don't call them for that, you'll get nothing.
1:05:44
Drew
Well done.
1:05:45
Adam
Well done, though. Wow. The cauliflower.
1:05:49
Moby
I feel kind of guilty, because I misled you guys.
1:05:51
Drew
No, no, we were already going to Germany.
1:05:52
Adam
You know, they were going bread and liver and kidneys and things like that. I immediately went Germany.
1:05:58
Moby
And the fruits were not tropical fruits for the most part, which also led me to Germany.
1:06:02
Drew
Peaches, though.
1:06:03
Adam
Peaches. Well, I was peaches.
1:06:04
Moby
Peaches are not tropical. I mean, but they're Florida.
1:06:06
Adam
They had bananas in there, too. I don't know how difficult it is to get hold of bananas and peaches in Germany.
1:06:13
Moby
It also depends on when this happened. If it happened before the wall came down in East Germany.
1:06:18
Adam
I would imagine it's more recent. Ryan.
1:06:24
Caller
Hey, what's up?
1:06:25
Adam
Fan of Moby?
1:06:27
Caller
Yeah, yeah.
1:06:28
Adam
Here he is.
1:06:29
Caller
Yeah, I've been a big fan for a long time, actually.
1:06:32
Back when you were doing the New Child and Barracuda days.
1:06:35
Moby
Wow, that's going back almost 15 years.
1:06:38
Caller
Yeah, yeah. Good stuff, man. You've been doing awesome music.
1:06:42
Moby
Thank you.
1:06:43
Caller
A question for you. I don't know if you have any good or bad memories about working with Alan Wilder from Depeche Mode.
1:06:52
Moby
Yeah, it was very interesting. I first started making records about 15 years ago, and after my first record came out, and at this point you have to understand I was making maybe $150 a month living in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, and I get a call from Depeche Mode's manager. And at this point Depeche Mode is the biggest band in the world, and they want me to come do vocals on Alan Wilder, who is in Depeche Mode on one of his records.
1:07:17
Adam
He's doing a solo project?
1:07:20
Moby
He's making a solo project, and they want me to come and rap on one of his songs.
1:07:23
Adam
Wow.
1:07:25
Drew
Where do they hear you? Where do they see you?
1:07:26
Moby
I think they had seen me at a little nightclub in Berlin called Tresor, and I was a little flabbergasted, A, that someone from Depeche Mode had heard of me, B, I'm not a rapper, but I did it. And so I went, they flew me to this studio in London, and I'm sitting in the bathroom trying to write a rap.
1:07:47
Adam
Oh, you got to come up with the rap.
1:07:48
Moby
I have to come up with the rap, and I'm like, and I have no time to come up with it. So I was panic stricken and it ended up turning out okay. Wow. But, and it's funny, cause I didn't think anyone had actually heard it. So I'm kind of surprised that I'm being asked about it.
1:08:01
Adam
Had you been rapping in the club in Berlin?
1:08:03
Moby
No, not really. I don't know where they got this. Maybe they thought because I was from New York, that all people from New York have this innate ability to rap. But alas with me, that's not the case.
1:08:12
Adam
Wow. But it came out just fine.
1:08:15
Moby
It seemed, I mean, yeah, I haven't heard it in a long time. So I'm amazed that-
1:08:19
Adam
Beach is ain't shh, but hoes and freaks suck on these bowls and leak on these dee- Oh wait. I was sure I could say-
1:08:30
Moby
That's fantastic.
1:08:31
Adam
I got Bakhan like John Mockenro. That Beach steps up, I'm smocking the hole. That was-
1:08:38
Drew
Well, how's pain?
1:08:39
Adam
That was back when I was, I used to be a Catholic big brother. I swear to Christ. And I used to cart around my kid named Nate, and Nate hooked up with Tim, big fat Russian kid who befriended him. I think Tim just made friends with Nate, so I would take him to the beach. And the funniest part is really the guy's name Tim, which is the first six months I knew him. I thought his name was Team, like the basketball team. Yeah, because I would say like, what's your name, Team? Team? Yes, Team. You mean Tim, right?
1:09:16
Drew
Tim, let's go.
1:09:17
Adam
No, Team. It's weird. He couldn't do the Tim part of the team and he never seemed to know what I was talking about, but he's a big fat kid. And it really made me realize what a horrible culture we live in because as bad as his mother Russia was, as soon as he came here, he just big fat white kid got into gangsta rap and that was it for him. And so he used to sit and bust these rhymes behind me while we're driving out to the beach and it was basically Tim, the Russian rapper. God knows where his team is today. Oh, can't be up to any good because he was getting suspended. Russian's a tough breed over there. You know what I'm saying?
1:09:58
Drew
Yeah. He could be in jail somewhere.
1:10:00
Adam
Oh yeah. If we're lucky. All right. What do I do?
1:10:03
Drew
Alas, Moby must go.
1:10:06
Adam
Oh yes. Moby has to wake up to crack a don tomorrow. And it's an hour earlier than the crack a don.
1:10:11
Drew
Yeah, yeah.
1:10:13
Adam
Here's how you know you're a loser. You walk around in a funk the entire day because you miss your hour.
1:10:19
Drew
Yeah.
1:10:19
Adam
Essentially, what I did is I basically squandered 13 hours today lamenting the loss of my one hour, woke up angry, looking at the clock like, what is it? 840? Oh, it's almost 10. I was angry and then I just paced around all day wanting my hour. I think they should do it incrementally. Let's just do it 15 minutes.
1:10:43
Moby
But Daylight Savings Time was started by Ben Franklin, right?
1:10:46
Drew
No, it probably started after, well, according to National Treasure, the movie started after World War I.
1:10:50
Adam
Oh, yeah, the Nick Cage. Nick Cage clearly expressed it when he was doing the, during the scene where he's rappelling into the volcano.
1:10:57
Moby
But at this point, it just serves no purpose whatsoever, because I think it was a way for sort of like when we were a manufacturing-based economy to keeping people in factories.
1:11:06
Adam
I thought it was a farm-related thing.
1:11:09
Drew
But I don't, I also, there's a lot of different forces to bear it. Even even charcoal companies make a big deal about maintaining it, because people don't barbecue as much if.
1:11:16
Adam
I just, I, it's the one thing I like about Arizona, because I just want, no, no, we're not going along. We're not going with this, right. But here's what I'm saying. I could do it if we, I could get behind it if we did it in like 10 or 15 minute increments. It's like, okay, this week.
1:11:32
Drew
Leading up to April.
1:11:33
Adam
Yeah. At 2 a.m. you set your clock to 2 15 a.m. And then, and then a week later you're up to 2 30. And it's like, Yeah, over a month we got it. It's like climbing in a jacuzzi and having it warm up instead of being burned for the entire day.
1:11:46
Drew
That's well done.
1:11:47
Adam
That's what it is. Instead of walking around just angry all day today. What? Got mauled by a tiger, lost part of his penis. Are you kidding me?
1:11:55
Drew
Well, we'll find out.
1:11:57
Adam
Wow. All right. Well, Moby, sorry buddy.
1:11:59
Drew
You're gonna miss that one.
1:12:01
Moby
Well, I'll listen to it in the car on the drive home.
1:12:03
Adam
Please. And while you're doing that, you'll hear your new song, Beautiful, being played as well.
1:12:08
Moby
And I need to give this little intro because I was playing this song for some friends of mine and they were commenting on what a simple song it is. And it's a song that was sort of inspired by, I was watching one of those VH1 specials about celebrity couples and I don't want to get in trouble, but it struck me just how simple and sort of dim so many celebrities are, as I'm sure you guys can attest to that fact. And so the song was inspired, I imagine it's like two kind of dim celebrities having breakfast or lunch together congratulating one another and just how attractive they were.
1:12:38
Adam
All right, now we'll all have to remember that because we're not going to be able to play the song until we come back from the commercial break, which is, I want to apologize for Moby. But in general, she will go through the roof if we went to 28. All right, Moby, God bless you. Come in anytime you like. Hotel, name of the CD. We'll hear something off it after this. Hey, everybody, it's the Love Line, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Moby has left the building, kids. We'll still hear a little something off his hotel album.
1:13:24
Drew
Do we do that first or talk to the guy who got mauled by the tiger? What do you think?
1:13:28
Adam
Let's talk to the guy who got mauled by the tiger.
1:13:31
Drew
Remember, I'm looking for people that are newly single and dating again, and or married couples want to talk about their relationships on Discovery Health Channel.
1:13:37
Adam
I'm looking for people who have been mauled by tiger.
1:13:39
Drew
We got one.
1:13:39
Adam
Dave?
1:13:40
Yeah.
1:13:41
Adam
You're 20?
1:13:42
Yeah, I'm 20.
1:13:44
Drew
What the hell?
1:13:44
Adam
You got mauled by a tiger and lost part of your penis?
1:13:47
Yeah.
1:13:47
Adam
That's how my dad went.
1:13:49
Drew
Really? Yeah. That's how he just became the way he is.
1:13:52
Adam
Same way. No, that's how he went. What happened? Where do you work? Where did you find the tiger?
1:13:58
Well, I was actually a zookeeper down in Miami.
1:14:02
Drew
Wow.
1:14:03
Adam
At what age?
1:14:04
19. Wow.
1:14:07
Adam
You get to be a zookeeper at 19?
1:14:10
Drew
Yeah. You shovel the flop.
1:14:12
Adam
You clean crap. All right.
1:14:13
Yeah. So I go in there and the tiger just jumps on me.
1:14:17
Drew
Hang on one second, Dave. Hold on a second. Zookeeper, Adam immediately imagines that it's Mr. Peebles or Mr. Whipple or something.
1:14:24
Adam
Yeah.
1:14:24
Drew
The zoo, the commandant of the zoo.
1:14:26
Adam
You get a mustache, a pit helmet, you know. Yeah.
1:14:28
Drew
And wear a little suit.
1:14:29
Adam
By the way, Dave's quite, Dave is bogus because Dave's like, so I go in there and the tiger just jumps on me.
1:14:38
Drew
Let's hear more. Let's see.
1:14:40
Adam
He's doing the very basic math.
1:14:41
Drew
Yeah.
1:14:43
Adam
So you just, you went in there and the tiger just jumped on you. Yeah.
1:14:47
Just started ripping off my...
1:14:49
I can't do this. This is too bogus.
1:14:51
Adam
Yeah. Thank you. You got nothing, Dave.
1:14:53
Drew
Nice try.
1:14:54
Adam
You got nothing. All right.
1:14:55
Drew
It was a good idea though. Well, very colorful idea.
1:14:58
Adam
It was good, but here's the whole thing. Let me just explain.
1:15:01
Drew
It's in the details.
1:15:03
Adam
Well, also, we don't know anything about tigers or zoo keeping, but we do know enough about life to know that they don't just send... First off, they don't have 19-year-olds just go... Especially...
1:15:15
Drew
In the tiger's cage.
1:15:15
Adam
Especially, classy, retarded stoner 19-year-olds. Guys who sound like idiots, they don't just send them into the tiger cage. You probably, if you're lucky enough to get a job at the zoo, first off, you must have to have some... You must be in some sort of zoology program or something at the college. And secondly, your job is just to basically handle snow cones for about the first five years. You don't start working with the dangerous animal.
1:15:41
Drew
Maybe you shovel their crap outside the cage or something, but don't walk into the cage.
1:15:45
Adam
I'll tell you about the closest you're gonna get to the tires. My take is, you could be the guy who's in the back cutting up the meat or something like that, preparing it to hand to the professional who brings it a mile away to where the tiger thing is. You don't just walk in. And then secondly, I'm guessing they put the tiger somewhere before you just stroll in with the slabs of meat.
1:16:05
Drew
I would imagine.
1:16:06
Adam
All right, but anyway, just jumped on him.
1:16:07
Drew
Yeah, just tore his clothes off.
1:16:09
Yeah, yeah.
1:16:12
Adam
I called, you know, I called Tom Labonge, who's the like the district whoever out here, like the district selectman or something out here.
1:16:21
Drew
For what?
1:16:21
Adam
To yell at him about traffic.
1:16:23
Drew
Wow.
1:16:24
Adam
Yeah.
1:16:24
Drew
In Culver City?
1:16:26
Adam
He handles, he handles like, you know, like Burbank and Glendale or something like that.
1:16:32
Drew
Well, you were going to yell about the.
1:16:33
Adam
I had multiple issues to discuss with him.
1:16:36
Drew
Wow.
1:16:37
Adam
You know, I realize I've, I've spoken to a few politicians so far. They sound, first off, they all sound like dumb people that are trying to be smart. They're a little like Don King, but not as flamboyant or not as interesting. And then the other thing they do is they use your name 30, 40 times.
1:16:55
Drew
Well, Adam.
1:16:55
Adam
Yeah, yeah. That's, and they're always looking into things, but they never have any answers. Right. And I realized the thing that was funny kept calling me Alex and we flip flopped between Alex and Adam. So the whole thing about that that BS politician thing where you use the person's name a thousand times. Motivational speakers, car salesmen, politicians, they'll do that thing. Well, what's your name? My name's John. John, good to see you, John. John, you look for a new or used car right now. John, right now. OK, right now, John. OK, John.
1:17:26
Drew
Well, John, well, John, you know, well, John, you know.
1:17:28
Adam
Well, John, after after much consideration, soul searching and some serious ass kissing, I'm going to use your name for 55th time in the six minutes we've been conversing. But was one of those politicians. You do sort of notice. So it's got to explain to politicians that using someone's name makes them feel good for the first three times, 15 to 20 times use it and then it becomes distracting and disconcerting. That's it. I've just really realized that politicians are for the most part, folks that probably couldn't cut it in the private sector. And this is just Tom seemed not now Tom didn't seem like Maxine Waters or so.
1:18:12
Drew
He wasn't out of it.
1:18:12
Adam
He didn't seem like he was in some fifth state of dementia or something. He didn't actually know where he was like Maxine Waters, but he just seemed like a guy that if you had a factory, you'd have him out on the floor. Wouldn't be up in the office. He'd be wearing a tie, but he'd have short sleeves.
1:18:29
Yeah. That guy.
1:18:31
Adam
Yeah. He used my name 36 times. And I'm thinking about running for something.
1:18:36
Drew
Why not?
1:18:36
Adam
I really am.
1:18:37
Drew
You could run. You've always threatened.
1:18:38
Adam
I'm thinking about calling these guys and threatening them and telling them, look, you're going to run.
1:18:43
Drew
I'll throw you out.
1:18:44
Adam
I'll throw you out. No one knows who you are. No one cares who you are.
1:18:47
Drew
But they will.
1:18:48
Adam
Here's the deal. There's a handful of people in this, there's a handful of people in this city that even know who your name is, and they don't like you. That's why they know your name. Right. Right. Okay. There's those people. And then there's everyone else who's never heard of you. I could get you tossed off and I'd just take your place. And then the party would start. He told me he was on the traffic commission. And that's where the left turn arrows began.
1:19:13
Drew
Is he a councilman? What is this?
1:19:14
Adam
I don't even know what he is. Just trying to get a telephone pole moved so I had to figure out how to call him.
1:19:20
Drew
That whole thing. Yeah.
1:19:21
Adam
And these guys are always in meetings too. Always in a meeting. What do they pull down here? I'd like to get them out of there. I don't know. I'm going to look into this, Drew. I may run for something.
1:19:33
Drew
I think it'd be, you've always threatened. You've always said things would run better when you were in power.
1:19:37
Adam
Well, just the traffic.
1:19:39
Drew
Well, you can start with that. You can start with that.
1:19:41
Adam
Yeah, all right.
1:19:41
Drew
Yeah, but 14 year olds can't vote. That's the problem.
1:19:45
Adam
Oh, but don't worry.
1:19:45
Caller
I can get away for four years.
1:19:46
Adam
Don't, all right. No, no, but I have.
1:19:49
Drew
Whatever it takes.
1:19:50
Adam
Yeah, I've waited four years. I don't have to wait four years from now.
1:19:53
Drew
He's been complaining about traffic for four years.
1:19:54
Adam
Right.
1:19:55
Drew
Hey, Moby song.
1:19:56
Adam
I get the city back on its feet. All right, what are we doing, Drew?
1:19:59
Drew
Moby song.
1:19:59
Adam
We are. Hotel, name of the new CD. Here's a little something called Beautiful. Yeah, Moby. Take that as you drive your town car back to your luxurious hotel. Keeping it real, though.
1:23:20
Drew
Oh, yeah.
1:23:21
Adam
Tell you something about Moby. He told me, he only stays in the finest hotels, but he sleeps on the floor.
1:23:28
Drew
That is keeping it real.
1:23:29
Keeping it real.
1:23:31
Drew
How could anybody not like Moby?
1:23:32
Adam
Nobody could not like Moby.
1:23:34
Drew
That's right.
1:23:35
Adam
But does Moby like Moby?
1:23:37
Caller
Don't do drugs.
1:23:39
Adam
Is that Moby? Oh, that's M&M. M&M doesn't like Moby.
1:23:45
Caller
Oh, that's right.
1:23:46
Drew
It's weird.
1:23:47
Adam
Yeah.
1:23:47
Drew
It says something about M&M.
1:23:48
Adam
It does. Genius.
1:23:50
Drew
But he likes Special Ed.
1:23:52
Adam
He loves Special Ed. See, now I'm torn because I love Moby and I love Special Ed from Crank Anchors, but M&M, see, this is tough. M&M loves Special Ed. He loves Crank Anchors in general, and I love Crank Anchors, but I love Moby, and M&M doesn't like Moby. You know, what do I do?
1:24:12
Drew
Let's see if Moby likes Crank Anchors.
1:24:15
Moby
That'll sound good.
1:24:17
Adam
All right. Hotel, name of the new CD for Moby. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.
1:24:26
Caller
We'll be right back. Please hold.
1:24:42
Adam
Yeah. Phone number, everybody. Oh, forget about that. Moby's gone. We got a phone call from Lassus.
1:24:49
Drew
I still want people to call for my show, for freshly single people are starting to date again, or a married couple talk about their relationships and sex. Huh?
1:24:57
Adam
Yeah, yeah. Thrice coming in here later in the week. I remember Thrice in here before.
1:25:03
Drew
I remember their names.
1:25:03
Adam
I remember them too. I think I like them.
1:25:06
Drew
Yes, I think we did too.
1:25:07
Adam
All right, someone's been on hold for 108 minutes. Let's just be nice. Oh, quiet down. Jason?
1:25:14
Yeah, what's up?
1:25:15
Adam
18?
1:25:16
Yeah.
1:25:17
Adam
You got a new girlfriend that's 16?
1:25:18
I'm actually calling for a friend, but a phone screener got a little carried away, so yeah.
1:25:24
Oh.
1:25:25
Adam
All right, what's up?
1:25:27
He is 18, and he recently has a girlfriend who's 16, and he was talking to me about like, yeah, we've been doing this, we've been doing that. And I was just wondering what he can legally do and not do.
1:25:39
Drew
He is how old?
1:25:40
Adam
18.
1:25:41
Drew
I think as long as he's within three years of the age of the girl, he's okay. But again, I have not looked into that law this year.
1:25:48
Adam
But you can get on the internet and find whatever. They change.
1:25:53
Drew
They change every year.
1:25:54
Adam
We don't know what the law is. No, not because they change every year, because they change from state to state.
1:25:58
Drew
Well, he's in California.
1:26:00
Adam
Right. But we don't even know our own state.
1:26:03
Drew
I think it's within three, after 18, within three years of the younger person.
1:26:06
Adam
Okay. Oh, really? Well, so hold on a second. Even if you're 18 years old and the person is 15?
1:26:13
Drew
Let's look here. I've got it.
1:26:14
Adam
We have the age of consent. It's all over the place.
1:26:18
Drew
Again, it's different.
1:26:19
Adam
It's just, you know, to me, you know, to me, it's like, it's like the flash button on your phone, because we just agree where the best place for the goddamn button is and just put it there. So I don't have to sort of stare at the thing, like a cross-eyed retard trying to find it. I have like three different phones in my house and they're all different. I can't find anything. Same with the age of consent, especially when you travel like I do. It's very important to nail down that age of consent. I could get into a lot of trouble. What do you got, Drew?
1:26:47
Drew
It says 18 here in this thing I've got.
1:26:50
Adam
Says both parties need to be 18.
1:26:52
Drew
Yep.
1:26:52
Adam
Or both parties need to be under 18. Is that true?
1:26:55
Drew
No, under 18, even if they're both under 18, you still can get nailed as the boy.
1:26:59
Adam
Who do you prosecute?
1:26:59
Drew
The boy.
1:27:00
Adam
Why?
1:27:01
Drew
Because he's having sex with someone under 18.
1:27:03
Adam
But she's having sex with someone who's under 18, too.
1:27:05
Drew
My understanding is that you can still get in trouble as a male.
1:27:08
Adam
Really? How so? It doesn't really mean anything, but I just wanted to say how so. How so?
1:27:16
Drew
I think that, Chris, are you looking that up now? Age of Consent, California?
1:27:20
Caller
Yeah.
1:27:20
Drew
What's it say?
1:27:21
Caller
Let's see.
1:27:23
Drew
Okay, we'll wait a little while.
1:27:24
Adam
Yeah, we'll wait. Well, by this time tomorrow, we're going to have an answer to that. Yeah, let's find that out because it moves around. And as I recall, Hawaii is like 14 or something crazy.
1:27:35
Caller
Okay, I got it.
1:27:36
Adam
But a 14-year-old Hawaiian is like 300 pounds. It's killed a man.
1:27:39
Caller
Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor who is not more than three years older or three years younger than the perpetrator is guilty of a misdemeanor.
1:27:50
Drew
Misdemeanor.
1:27:51
Caller
That's what it says.
1:27:52
Adam
Not more than. So what does that mean? Does that mean three years?
1:27:59
Drew
12 or 15?
1:28:00
Adam
18 can be the 15 year old in California?
1:28:03
Drew
It doesn't seem like it should be that way, but that's what it sounds like.
1:28:06
Adam
All right. Here's the the answer is, is you'll get into trouble if you dump her and she's vindictive and her dad's pissed.
1:28:13
Drew
Yes.
1:28:14
Adam
That's how these things work.
1:28:15
Drew
That's how they work. That's right.
1:28:16
Adam
I mean, here's the whole deal with this. It's not like law enforcement polices this. It's somebody picks up the phone and makes an issue of it, makes an issue of it. And then you got a prom. It's basically the same way. It's lawsuits. Same thing. They work with lawsuits and cops work with parties. Neighbors got to pick up a phone first. All right. Let's talk to...
1:28:36
Drew
Strangely, it's the way they can deal with potential murder cases too.
1:28:39
Adam
Yeah.
1:28:40
Drew
Somebody's got to actually pull the trigger first.
1:28:43
Adam
Yeah. They got to pick the phone up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
1:28:45
Drew
Yeah.
1:28:46
Adam
There's nothing. There's nothing really.
1:28:47
Drew
Nothing they can do until...
1:28:48
Adam
Nothing they can do until there's a body. Yeah. Yeah. We can't. Yeah. No. Cause otherwise it'd be like judging.
1:28:55
Drew
I cannot judge.
1:28:55
Adam
Cannot judge. Yeah. It'd be like profiling.
1:28:58
Drew
We to judge.
1:28:59
Adam
That's how profiling is evil too. It's the same thing.
1:29:02
Drew
Yes.
1:29:02
Adam
You got to wait for the person to blow the plane up before you actually do anything.
1:29:05
Drew
Then you still wouldn't make any judgments about the person. No.
1:29:08
Adam
No. Profiling. No. Because here's the thing. Here's the thing about profiling.
1:29:11
Drew
Anybody could blow a plane up.
1:29:13
Adam
Well, the thing about profiling is you would have to believe that there were differences in human beings.
1:29:19
Drew
Right. And they're all the same.
1:29:21
Adam
Right. Right. Right. They're just.
1:29:23
Drew
Terry Shavo, same as you.
1:29:24
Adam
It's just the same as breeds of dogs. They come in different shades, different colors.
1:29:29
Drew
But they're the same.
1:29:30
Adam
All the same. Pitbull, Labrador, the same. Chihuahua, Pekingese.
1:29:37
Drew
Great Pyrenees.
1:29:38
Adam
Great Pyrenees. Same temperament, same. Exactly the same. Same in the brains department, same in the barking department. No difference between a Dalmatian and a German Shepherd in terms of the brains or one of Drew's border collies.
1:29:53
Drew
Oh, so different. You can't even imagine how smart those dogs are.
1:29:57
Adam
And a Chihuahua. Just no, no, no, Drew. No, that's not my point.
1:30:00
Drew
That's judging. That's judging.
1:30:01
Adam
My point is there's no different. I'm just saying.
1:30:03
Drew
I'm just saying.
1:30:04
Adam
Yeah. No, no. And by the way, no difference between a mule and a dolphin.
1:30:08
Drew
How dare you?
1:30:09
Adam
That's right. Everything's the same. It's exactly the same. There's no difference in anything ever. Human beings, all exactly the same.
1:30:16
Drew
Exactly.
1:30:17
Adam
Some of them get lucky and invent stuff.
1:30:20
Drew
That's luck.
1:30:20
Adam
And like go to the moon.
1:30:22
Drew
That's luck.
1:30:22
Adam
Others, you know, set their trailer on fire and kill their families, but that's just luck. There's no difference. Zero. Everything's the same. The same. Hitler, Gandhi, same. No difference. I mean, you know, unless you want to judge, we're gonna start getting into judging. Then we got a problem.
1:30:39
Drew
Then you're, how dare you? Who are you?
1:30:41
Adam
Yeah, you can't. No, you can't. You can't judge. You can't judge. John Wilkes Booth and Lincoln, same, same guy, same guy, same guy.
1:30:49
Drew
Just depends on your perspective.
1:30:50
Adam
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't judge.
1:30:52
Eric?
1:30:53
Yeah.
1:30:54
Adam
You're 20.
1:30:55
Caller
Yeah, I'm 20.
1:30:56
Adam
What's up?
1:30:58
Caller
I got satimized about a week ago by a girl I haven't seen in a while and it still hurts. And I was wondering if there was any long-term ramifications. Get it?
1:31:08
Adam
Ramifications.
1:31:09
Drew
That's very nice, very nice. The only reason I believe this call is A, he had a little detail about it, and not having seen this girl in a long time. And he didn't say, what am I supposed to do? He asked long-term, he has a specific question. Specific details, specific question, I'll buy it.
1:31:23
Adam
Yeah, still not sure.
1:31:24
Drew
I'm not sure if it's both, but I'm ready to answer it, you know what I'm saying?
1:31:27
Adam
What are the long-term ramifications?
1:31:29
Drew
You can, probably nothing, but you can certainly get hemorrhoids, you can get tears and what's called stenosis. When things tear, then they scar and then they narrow.
1:31:39
Adam
Yeah, but what if there's no damage done in the...
1:31:43
Drew
But he's having pain a week later, so something happened. Something happened and I'm just saying he might have done something, the worst thing would be hemorrhoids or stenosis, I would think. You can get fistulas and somebody did something to you.
1:31:56
Adam
You're on the business end of the strampons.
1:31:58
Drew
Supposedly. You can get fistulas and abscesses and if you get really, you know, Adam's had some experience with this.
1:32:05
Adam
I had a carbuncle down there once.
1:32:08
Drew
Yeah, no problem.
1:32:10
Adam
By the way, I got that the way God wants you to get one, which is just riding a mountain bike, but not getting cornholed by some chick with a pocket fisherman strapped her thighs. How dare you? I got my carbuncle the old fashioned way.
1:32:29
Drew
You're judging. You're judging.
1:32:31
Adam
Poor hygiene.
1:32:32
Drew
You're judging.
1:32:32
Adam
I am judging. You're profiling.
1:32:34
Drew
I should name that because he was sodomized, he's not as good as you riding a mountain bike.
1:32:39
Adam
You're right. You're right. I judge.
1:32:40
Drew
How dare you?
1:32:41
Adam
All right, Eric, you'll be fine, buddy.
1:32:42
Drew
Well, hot bath, sitz bath.
1:32:44
Adam
Sitz bath. Just four inches.
1:32:46
Drew
Hot water.
1:32:47
Adam
And you just sit there. No salt, Epsom salt?
1:32:49
Drew
No, necessarily.
1:32:49
Adam
All right, we'll take a quick break. Be right back after this. We up?
1:33:18
Drew
Here we go.
1:33:19
Adam
Oh, I thought I heard someone yell go. Well, that's the show. I want to thank dear, dear, dear, dear friend Moby for coming in here tonight. Hotel, name of the CD. Go to www.moby.com. 500 bucks you paid for that.
1:33:32
Caller
That's good.
1:33:34
Adam
If you want any information on tour dates or anything like that, support our friends. All right. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo. Make Mother Teresa say, no way! Are you high? Please, what has that bitch done for anybody?
1:33:53
Caller
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