Episode 1000702321771

0:04 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually oriented content. Sexually oriented content. Listener discretion is advised. This is Loveline. Love Line, Love Line, Love Line, Love Line, with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

0:27 Voiceover Hey, everybody. It's the Love Line. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. Tonight from 24, Roger Cross is here.

0:39 Drew Hello.

0:40 Adam Good to see you, Roger.

0:41 Drew Good to see you, too, man.

0:43 Adam Sorry, just if I could make a little note here, Adam. Tonight, you ran the spectrum of all your sort of mispronunciations. Hey, buddy.

0:50 Adam Hey, buddy.

0:51 Adam Drew's addiction medicine specialist.

0:53 Adam Addiction medicine specialist.

0:55 Adam Eventually, I'm just going to go full Cajun. Start eating crawfish, drinking out of a Cajun. You can't articulate yourself any better than that. Drinking out of a cider jug.

1:06 Adam All your friends have accused you of saying, hey, buddy, every night.

1:09 Adam I know. I do say hey, everybody, but it sounds like hey, buddy. Roger is on one of the best shows on TV, which is Fox's 24. And it's one of these shows that seems to have built momentum as the episodes have worn on, mainly through word of mouth.

1:28 Drew That's, yeah, that seemed to be just peaking like this year for some reason.

1:32 Adam It's the best way, though, right?

1:33 Adam I sit at a table over at the Jimmy Kimmel Show with a lot of smart, educated guys who get angry when other guys at the table aren't watching 24. Violent. It's like, did you catch 24? They get that in the shield. They get angry about it. Did you catch 24? No, I don't. You don't watch 24?

1:51 Adam You have an obligation.

1:51 Adam Yeah. It's like, I haven't seen. Okay. All right. Then if you find out you didn't see the shield, then this smoke starts coming out of their ears. But there's too much good. There's too many good shows on TV.

2:05 Drew That's a strange place to be in, isn't it?

2:07 Yeah.

2:08 Drew It's not a bad spot.

2:09 Adam No, I don't know, though. Maybe, I don't know how many pieces we can whack this pie up into. It seems, gladly, it seems to be infinite, almost. But there's so many networks, have so many good shows. And I take everyone's word for all of it. They're all great. Everyone has their own shows. Although, Drew, you need to listen to me when I tell you to watch shows earlier.

2:33 Adam It's true. That's for sure true. Family guy.

2:36 Adam Family guy. Also, Roger has a movie coming out on the 22nd of April called King's Ransom. What is that about?

2:44 Drew King's Ransom. It's a comedy with Anthony Anderson, J. Moore, Regina Hall. A lot of people. It's about a big music mogul who is not the nicest man in the world. And I'm having an affair with his wife, of course. And he's about to leave her. And so she decides, I need some money out of this guy. So why don't you help me kidnap him?

3:07 Adam Is that J.

3:08 Adam Moore?

3:09 Adam Who plays the other guy, a mogul?

3:10 Drew No, Anthony Anderson plays that guy.

3:12 Adam Is Roger, by the way, born in Jamaica. Good place.

3:17 Adam I like it.

3:18 Adam Can't get any work done over there, but that's not why you go there. Smoke weed and relax. But here's the thing, I've been to Jamaica one time, stayed at a very nice resort. You gotta dial down your clock. It wouldn't work well for you, Drew, or maybe it's just what the doctor ordered, but you order a beer on Monday, shows up Wednesday, but you can't be like, where's the beer? Christ, it's been 22 minutes. Soon come, man.

3:45 Drew You know what I'm saying.

3:46 Adam Yeah, just relax. By the way, you get the beer, it's got a few swigs off the top. It's at the two-thirds, but it's down around where the label is.

3:53 Drew I don't know where you stayed, bro.

3:57 Adam I stayed at the, it's not a resort. There's a house there where the guy who wrote the James Bond movies stayed or lived. The GoldenEye. Stayed at GoldenEye was awesome. Just yeah, look out. Yeah. Then you got to come home. That's the thing about vacations. But we had a couple of stone guys around there just getting drinks and stuff. But I still got a drink coming, by the way.

4:27 Adam Still, from then, from that trip.

4:28 Adam It's about four years ago. It's going to fall 2006. Because it had to go in a blender.

4:35 Adam Perfect.

4:35 Adam Beer take about three years, mixed drinks.

4:37 Drew Mixed drinks, four.

4:38 Adam Yeah, three to seven years on a mixed drink. All right, what are we doing? What's going on? Oh, you know what? I saw here that Roger has a degree in aviation.

4:49 Drew Yes.

4:49 Adam Which I'm interested in.

4:52 Adam He flies a little model plane.

4:52 Drew What do I find? No.

4:54 Adam No, no, Adam does.

4:55 Adam How dare you make fun of my model plane with you?

4:57 Drew No.

4:58 Adam You hear the way he thinks?

4:59 Adam No.

5:01 Drew The real deal here, no.

5:02 Adam Do you fly?

5:03 Drew Yeah, I do. I had my class one multi-IFR rating. That was my original career.

5:07 Adam Really? You're going to be a pilot?

5:09 Drew Yep. I have my commercial license still.

5:11 Adam How hard is it or difficult to actually work for an airline, fly the kind of jets that people think of as big commercial 300 seaters and not do any military stuff?

5:25 Adam Not have done any military? Yeah.

5:28 Adam I don't mean go on raids on the actual plane.

5:30 Drew I wasn't sure what he was getting at. I'm kidding. You know what? How hard is-

5:35 Adam Well, what is the route? Would you first fly the prop stuff?

5:39 Adam Yeah, exactly.

5:40 Adam Commuter stuff?

5:41 Drew What you do? You start off single-engine airplane. You're Cessna 172.

5:44 Adam But you got a degree from a college. Is that part of his flight?

5:47 Drew It is Trinity Western University. They have a program that incorporates the flying with whatever you want. So I took a business minor as well. And because all the courses you take, you take meteorology, calculus, all the different things. So they're university accredited courses. So it goes towards the degree.

6:04 Nice.

6:05 Adam And you ended up flying what kind of plane?

6:07 Drew I was flying. I flew some turbo props. I flew like a Seneca. I don't know if you guys are familiar with that. Just more small commuter planes. I was just doing like some of that more like island hopping.

6:18 Adam The commuter jets or commuter planes? Turbo props.

6:21 Drew Turbo props.

6:22 Adam Yeah. And by the way, if you live, did something else, their man show thing on one of those islands somewhere, got into a plane that looked like, basically they have planes. You're used to the ones you see around here. They have planes that look like a mailbox that someone took a bat to. Essentially. And the guy who gets off, it looks like Ziggy Marley.

6:42 Adam Oh, nice.

6:42 Adam Stoned off his ass, shirts not buttoned up. It's like.

6:45 Adam It's good times.

6:46 Adam It is kind of weird when planes become like busted down cabs, which they are in many parts of the world. You don't really even think about it. You'll climb in some rickety old cab thinking, if we get a flat tire, we get a flat tire. But there are planes, they're sort of the equivalent to the Bangkok cab.

7:04 Adam Yeah.

7:05 Adam It's crazy.

7:06 Drew You get in them and you're...

7:07 Adam No, the good news is you seem to be over mostly water and the thing seems to be about the size of like a Sears Gardening shed. So you figure like...

7:17 Adam It's not gonna be too much for us.

7:18 Adam We're not gonna get any higher than 80 feet off the ground anyway. We'll hit like a plantain or something on the way down. Yeah, it's cool. All right, we got plane stuff to talk about maybe during the commercial break. I just watched Amelia Earhart over the weekend. I was watching the Damn Busters last night on the History Channel.

7:38 Adam Damn Busters.

7:39 Adam The boat had specially outfitted English aircraft trying to blow up German dams by skipping bombs at them. They didn't bomb, they didn't drop bombs on them. They skipped them along the water. Guys having to fly 50 feet above the water line, getting caught up in power lines and stuff. It's just crazy stuff.

8:01 Drew Scud running.

8:02 Adam It's just the stuff that went on. I mean, you know, the freedom. I mean, you know, I guess, you know, people go, well, the only time I feel free is when I'm flying. But now you got the FAA and you're checking in all the time. There's no strafing. So, you know, they used to tell these guys in World War II, like, look, after you do your, you're flying your Mustang, you got your 500 mile an hour prop plane there, you just do the bomber escort on the way out. And then on the way back, you just look for targets of opportunity. So you just fly over the countryside. If you see some cows or a train that's pulled, just start, just open up, just open up on it. And you see just flying around the countryside in your 500 mile an hour plane, just deciding what to open up on.

8:44 Adam Wow.

8:44 Adam Yeah. I mean, is that ever going to happen again?

8:46 Adam No, no, no.

8:47 Adam No, you get your ass sued. The whole country would be like a class action lawsuit. It'd be Germany versus the United States. We'd be held in our courts, but we'd rule against us. We'd lose.

9:00 Drew Plus, they videotape everything now, too, so, you know.

9:02 Adam Yeah, there he is. That's right.

9:04 Drew Yep, we got him.

9:05 Adam Justin?

9:07 Adam Yeah.

9:08 Adam You're 17?

9:09 Adam Yeah.

9:10 Adam Rodger being the Tuskegee Airman.

9:12 Roger Cross Yeah.

9:12 Adam Of a prestigious all-black crew.

9:15 Roger Cross Yeah.

9:16 Adam Yeah. Justin?

9:18 Roger Cross Yeah.

9:19 Adam What's happening? You're 17.

9:21 Roger Cross Yeah. I was wondering if we could add, like, an addiction to masturbation.

9:27 Adam Does it affect your sex life with your girlfriend?

9:30 Adam Well, I don't know. But let me just address whether you can become addicted to masturbation. You definitely can. That's really the pornographic and internet porn addiction, which is one of the more rapidly growing problems today. I actually interviewed a guy for Discovery Health Channel that had this problem, and brought in a doctor that specializes in treating this stuff. I've seen like 300,000 people with this a year, and it tends to progress. Like with every addiction, it tends to go on to other things, and it tends towards prostitution.

9:58 Adam Well, this one too, you don't have to go out and score. I mean, eventually you get there, but if you have a computer and high-speed modem, you're it.

10:06 Adam Imagine you were 17 and you had that. I mean, forget it.

10:09 Adam I'm 40, imagine.

10:10 Adam Oh, I see. We're getting into it, are we?

10:12 Adam Yeah.

10:12 Adam I knew you would.

10:13 Adam I knew you would eventually. No, I can't figure the computer out enough to do that.

10:18 Adam Plus, if you ever do, we won't see you anymore.

10:21 Drew We won't see you.

10:21 Adam Where's Adam? Oh, well, what are you going to do?

10:23 Adam Yeah.

10:23 Adam Open the door to your front door, to your house, and a sea of semen flows out.

10:27 Adam Semen carried down the street. I'm just a skeleton, but I'm still moving.

10:32 Drew That's just wrong.

10:32 Adam You've actually turned inside out. You've actually.

10:35 Adam Turned inside out, but I won't stop moving like a chicken with his head cut off.

10:38 Drew Go, go, go, go, go.

10:39 Adam Yeah. All right. I don't want to talk to Justin.

10:42 Adam Let's have a couple plugs. Speaking of Discovery Health, I've got a looking for people who want to be on television who are hiding sexual secrets from their partner and are people with fears or aversions that prevent you from being sexual. So we're going to do a segment on that. So if you guys are interested in being on television, call in. We've got people that will talk to you.

10:59 Adam I didn't think Amelia Earhart was that great a pilot.

11:02 Adam Who didn't?

11:03 Adam The world. I mean, you know, it's.

11:06 Adam In the day, it wasn't.

11:07 Adam It's now that they look back on it. They don't look at her as that great a pilot.

11:10 Adam Oh, and look better in the day.

11:12 Adam In the day, yeah. Well, in the day, yeah. Maybe she was a female.

11:15 Adam So she didn't need to be that great a pilot. Is that what you're saying?

11:17 Adam You know what? She didn't want to. I just sit around and watch the History Channel. It's all I do and I love airplanes. You know, she never learned. She didn't know Morris Code.

11:26 Adam Really?

11:27 Adam And she wouldn't sort of refuse to learn it. And she didn't want to monkey with her radio either. So, on the very last leg for-

11:34 Adam That's how she got lost.

11:34 Adam Around the equator flight. Yeah, they just think that's what did her in.

11:39 Drew I would not want to get lost.

11:41 Adam No. No. You got to learn Morris Code if you want to fly an airplane.

11:46 Drew Thank God those days are done, man.

11:49 Adam First off, I could only- I can't spell as it is. I couldn't imagine the Morris Code. I can't type. I use a pencil in my mouth like I'm disabled. I couldn't imagine learning it and figuring out what is the- you hold it. It's like three quick ones is a C and two-

12:07 Adam The classic is three long ones is S, three short ones is O, and three long ones is S.

12:11 Adam But eventually, you're spelling words out, aren't you?

12:14 Adam Yeah.

12:14 Adam What does that take a while?

12:16 Adam Yeah. Yes, it does.

12:18 Adam Well, I mean, I feel that way with sign language when it's like, well, you guys got a word? No, no, we got letters.

12:24 Adam Yeah. All right.

12:25 Adam But so if you're saying there's an amendment made to the Constitution, it's not going to take like 45 minutes.

12:30 Adam They have real sign language as words.

12:32 Adam They got words? But they do a lot of spelling with their hands too, right?

12:35 Adam When there are not symbols for the word, yes, they'll do.

12:39 Adam Yeah, I know they got love and dog and stuff. But what about if you're just hearing Fox News? How much of that would be words? Symbols for words, you know?

12:48 Adam I don't know the answer to that. At least half, I would think.

12:51 Drew Yeah, a lot of it they have.

12:53 Adam I don't think they get the full thing. I think it's like the translator after the fight.

12:57 Adam Sure.

12:58 Adam You know what I mean?

12:58 Adam Something gets lost in translation.

12:59 Adam They don't exactly get the exact question. They should get the gist. Yeah?

13:03 Adam Well, you've seen the stuff that gets transcribed in television when they have that captioned stuff. Yeah. Some of the words are scrambled up. They don't make sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

13:12 Drew The person is saying they're typing.

13:13 Adam No, there could be no worse job than that.

13:15 Adam Yeah.

13:17 Adam Courtney? Yeah, there could be.

13:18 Adam There could be.

13:18 Yes.

13:19 Adam Oh, wait a minute. Is it Courtney?

13:21 Yes, Courtney.

13:22 Adam All right. What's up? 22.

13:24 Well, hi, Roger. Nice to talk to you. I'm recently divorced, separated in September, and I have two children. And my current boyfriend, he also has one child. I have accepted a position that's about two hours from where we currently live, and I'm moving now. And we had decided not to move in together until my divorce was final, which is a good idea.

13:51 Adam Yes, it's a good idea.

13:54 Well, the problem is I'm not really good with phone relationships, and that's basically how we'll be doing, is he's not even deciding if he's going to pick up and move ever. And so I don't even know if this is a relationship I should pursue.

14:09 Adam Well, if he's never going to move, and you both have kids...

14:12 He's not giving me an answer, though.

14:14 Adam Yeah, it doesn't sound good, Courtney.

14:15 Drew Well, what does he do for a living?

14:18 He doesn't.

14:19 Drew He doesn't work?

14:20 He doesn't...

14:21 Adam Why are you with him?

14:23 Adam Come on, buddy. What about love?

14:25 Adam I'm just saying.

14:26 Adam Love does not ask to see a pay stup.

14:28 Adam I'm just saying.

14:29 Adam Okay.

14:29 Adam Doesn't that settle it?

14:30 Adam All right. Courtney?

14:31 Adam Yeah, but still.

14:32 Adam What are you doing with him? This guy doesn't even have a job.

14:35 You know, I have a terrible history of picking guys who just treat me like dirt. But this one, he treats me a lot nicer. He's very good to me. He's got a lot of things on his list. He's going to be going back to college and getting his degree first.

14:49 Adam AA?

14:50 Adam Before he...

14:51 No, his bachelor's. His bachelor's. He has his AA.

14:57 Adam How old is he?

14:58 He's 22 as well.

15:00 Adam And he's going back to what college?

15:03 To a four-year university.

15:05 Adam Which one?

15:07 Fresno.

15:07 Adam Fresno State.

15:08 Yes.

15:09 Adam And what is he, what's his plan? And doesn't he have to work in the meantime?

15:15 Yes, but I assume it's gonna be some side job like Walmart or Target.

15:18 Adam No, we're confused. How does he support himself now?

15:21 Adam And his kid?

15:22 Well, right now, he is being mostly supported by his parents. He actually manages part-time in an apartment complex, so he doesn't pay rent.

15:31 Adam Oh, that by the way.

15:33 Adam That's a bad guy.

15:34 Adam That's a manager's. I don't know what, I, one day, I'm gonna really sit down and work out the scuzzball pyramid. I know publicist sits as the stone that rests on the top, and then you start getting into like terrorists and pedophile and stuff like that in the lower echelons. You're not ever gonna dethrone publicist. But then there's like attorneys, but the apartment manager, that's a whole dicey crowd right there. That's its own thing.

16:02 Adam It's windbreakers wearing.

16:04 Adam Windbreakers on the guys.

16:06 Adam Plastic glasses.

16:08 Adam Yeah. It's a weird, there's a whatever. By the way, whatever rules these guys have to enforce on your thing does not hold true to there. They're growing a pot plant.

16:18 Adam They're collectors. Yeah.

16:19 Adam They're collectors. They're walking around. They're sort of a constant presence. They're sort of a...

16:24 Adam Home monitor meets...

16:26 Adam Meets warden, meets pimp, meets homeless guy. It's a weird mishmash of personalities all combined into a crappy ball of clay.

16:36 Drew Right now you have all these apartment managers cussing you out right now.

16:40 Adam There's no such thing...

16:41 Adam No, they're just going, Yeah, that's about right.

16:45 Adam Yeah. You know what they do? Most of them smoke and they have to sit out on a folding chair so they can keep an eye out on everything and sit out smoking.

16:53 Adam That's the older version.

16:53 Adam Old school.

16:54 Adam Yeah, that's the 50 plus year old guy.

16:56 Adam Out smoking.

16:57 Adam Because there's two versions. There's the 20 to 30 year old guy and there's the 50 plus. Right. No 40 year old guys.

17:02 Adam No, no, that's right. There's old and new. Yeah. It's like a car show. Got the Ultraman. 2006 is over here. Concept cars. Then we got the old, we got vintage stuff from the 40s and 50s. You don't see anything from the mid 80s. No.

17:16 Adam They're talking about the 70s.

17:17 Adam No. All right. All right. What are we talking about? I don't trust this guy.

17:22 Adam Courtney.

17:22 Adam Yeah, Courtney. Yes. None of us like this guy.

17:26 Adam Well, we don't know and we don't dislike him, but we just have suspicions that you might be able to have a more fulfilling relationship, let's say, and the fact that you have all these crazy relationships suggest you come from chaos and you've got maybe some abuse history. Kind of work on that. Get date a little bit, get some stable relationships going.

17:44 Adam Well, you've got to-

17:45 Adam Somebody actually cares about you.

17:46 Adam You got a good job, right?

17:48 Yes, a very good paying job.

17:50 Adam All right.

17:50 Adam What kind of work?

17:51 With the state of California.

17:54 Adam I don't like when things pay well that I'm paying for. What are you doing?

17:58 I work for Caltrans. I'm an office technician.

18:01 Adam All right.

18:02 Drew So you got your stuff. You've got it together. You should be able to-

18:05 Adam Yeah. You got a kid, you're young, you got a decent gig.

18:08 Adam Two kids.

18:08 Adam I thought he had one and she had one.

18:10 Adam He has one, she has two.

18:11 Two children and he has one.

18:12 Adam Okay. All right. I don't like this guy's flighty's flaky.

18:17 Adam Just move on. Focus on your career and your kids. If he comes along, great. If he doesn't, that's the way it goes. You set up your life, that's that, period.

18:23 Drew A guy like that, it sounds like he won't respond to pressure. So the minute you go, I'm gone, I'm going to leave. Also, he will probably come along.

18:30 Adam He'll be the comrade, won't. If he doesn't, it wasn't meant to be. Come on, just get 22. You got a whole life ahead of you. You got two kids you got to focus on. You got a decent job. That's your focus, not this guy.

18:38 Adam And you're barely done washing the stink of your last failed relationship off you.

18:45 Adam Break it down.

18:45 Adam Yeah.

18:46 Adam All right.

18:46 Adam Oh, well, let me ask you this. You work for Caltrans?

18:49 Adam Yes, that's right.

18:50 Adam All right. Boy, do I have questions. Boy, I would love to talk to your idiot boss.

18:55 Adam Do you have anything to do with the freeway signs that are here in Los Angeles that light up to give you sort of information about traffic downstream?

19:03 Adam Amber alerts, that kind of thing.

19:05 Oh, no, actually, I do not work in that department.

19:09 Adam Adam wants to talk to that department.

19:10 Adam Yeah, I do.

19:12 You know, you can call. There is an 800 number in the phone book, any phone book, and you can call and make a complaint or a request.

19:20 Adam I'm sure. I'm sure. All right. I'm sure it's going to fix it all. All right. Really, I want to know about the left turn arrows, too, that do nothing as well, once it turned red.

19:29 Adam Is that Caldron? That's the city.

19:31 Adam That's the city. Oh, I'll tell you, this godforsaken city, more and more of this.

19:35 Adam Culver City.

19:36 Adam Well, no, I mean, just Los Angeles, too.

19:38 Adam Oh, I went down to visit our old studios at Westwood One. You have got to take a drive down that street. There's an arrow every 20 yards. They put like 18 more lights in. It was distressing. I thought like Christmas, like like Vegas. They're all lit up with with streetlights.

19:55 Adam Well, here's here's what happened. Let me explain. The the proud, proud people of the government are the city officials in Culver City. Culver is Culver City's Culver's. I think it's an Indian word meaning you rock. Waiting for the goddamn signal to change when there's no traffic coming, loosely translated as we talked about earlier. But here's what happened. They spearheaded the whole useless arrow thing, the whole part where the arrow turns green. Roger is a man who likes to fly. You're probably a guy who likes to drive and make a little time too. Yeah. The whole thing about the left turn arrows in this city is, they should turn green and let you turn left. But then they should just go to nothing when your light is green.

20:42 Adam When your light is green. Yield on oncoming traffic.

20:44 Drew That's true.

20:44 Adam Yield on oncoming traffic.

20:46 Adam When it's safe to turn. Just like you did at the intersection before.

20:49 Drew Before or where?

20:50 Adam And the one after. Why can't you turn here? So here's the thing. But they turn red. So you just sit there waiting to be T-boned or carjacked by a drunk driver. You just wait to be carjacked and you have to wait for the whole, you have to wait for the thing to cycle again and go through again. You're just sitting there. Now if you drive home at 1230 at night like we do, there's no, I can see the earth curving.

21:13 Adam And no traffic coming.

21:13 Adam And no traffic and the light is green, I could easily turn, but the arrow is red. But here's what happened, Drew. Culver City, who pioneered the red arrow long before-

21:25 Adam I'm not sure they pioneered it, but they perfected it.

21:27 Adam They perfected it.

21:28 Adam They took it to its extreme.

21:30 Adam No, when we used to work over there eight years ago and I was complaining about it, there weren't all over the city. They had the market cornered in the stupid useless red arrow thing. So what happened? The rest of the city, well they stepped it up because the rest of Los Angeles says, why does Culver City get to waste the taxpayers' time sitting there idling for no good reason? What about us? Surely we can rape our citizens as well. Surely we can slow down progress.

21:58 Adam And ticket them if they turn.

21:59 Adam And ticket them. Of course, it's a source of revenue.

22:01 Adam Another opportunity, yes.

22:02 Adam Right. And look, here's the thing. People spend an hour and a half of lost productivity time commuting there and back. We'll get it to two hours. Come on, everybody. Let's get it to two hours. What do you say? So Culver City now became a race, became a race war. I mean, I mean, an arms race. Sorry, I mean, sorry, right? I mean, I mean an arms race, which is, oh, you guys have added more useless left turn red arrows. Aha. We'll add more. Even if it just means putting them in between. Actually, you have to make it, you have to, you have to turn left. It's like an octagonal shape. Now, you go 20 feet, you stop, there's another arrow, you go to.

22:39 Adam You got to go down there. You got to go down there. That's what's happening.

22:41 Adam I'm just saying Culver City was like, uh, your way, you think you're wasting. See, they're Culver City's like, we have to lead the nation in wasting the citizens times rotting at the thing. They've still got it, they've still got it. Now, the LA cities tried, they made a feeble attempt to catch up to us.

22:57 Adam No, no way.

22:58 Adam Let the real raping of the citizens begin. Ha. And you know, Burbank, Burbank.

23:03 Adam Burbank has a different whole strategy. Their thing is, you gotta be on foot.

23:06 Adam Yeah. Burbank's thing is, is let's not compete with Culver City. They got a ten-year jump on your side. But what we need to do is really rate the citizens who are on foot. That'll be our forte. Let's not compete with the crappy useless left turn. We'll get everyone who's walking. Everyone who jaywalks, everyone on a bicycle.

23:23 Adam So if you step on a street or not on the curb before the light starts blinking, pow, ticket.

23:28 Adam God bless you.

23:29 Adam And then there's Hollywood who has cornered the parking ticket.

23:33 Adam That's right.

23:33 Adam Nailed it. So each has their expertise.

23:35 Drew It's fantastic. Yeah.

23:37 Adam That's right. They're working so hard.

23:39 Adam But of course, they have to establish themselves because they know they can't compete with Culver.

23:43 Adam Now, nobody competes in the Aero department with Culver City. God bless you, retards. Idiots. And by the way-

23:50 Drew They'll be camped out next time he comes to town.

23:51 Adam Roger, I drive through every single one of them and I beg-

23:55 Drew You know what? I was sitting here listening to you talk about sitting here at 1230 at night waiting and I'm like, I'm getting this man doesn't wait for that red light to turn.

24:03 Adam Never, never, and I'm not lying. If you could do retro tickets-

24:08 Adam You got 8,000.

24:09 Adam Thousands. F all you idiots. I'm not some lemming, I'm not a stooge, I'm just driving through it. There's no traffic. I'm turning left.

24:17 Adam Adam will go around the guys waiting in line and they have to give him the honk to let him know he's doing something wrong.

24:22 Drew Oh, of course.

24:22 Adam Because he doesn't know he's breaking the law.

24:24 Drew Of course not.

24:24 Adam Here's the thing. I can point my car toward a building and accelerate into it anytime I want, you idiots. I don't do it. It's not safe. I drive the car. All right, anyway, all I'm saying is, is everyone please join me in ignoring these god-awful left turn arrows or let the powers that be synchronize them or work them out or figure them out. Do they have to be that way, 1230 at night when there's no traffic?

24:49 Adam What if I'm in the blinking red? Remember that one?

24:52 Drew Stop and proceed.

24:53 Adam Yeah, we'll just do some. Or blink yellow in the middle of the night.

24:56 Adam All right. I am, I am, I, it is, these people are-

24:59 Adam I'm still pissed at Hollywood for trapping, entrapment.

25:03 Adam All right. Let's, I'm going, you know what I'm doing? I'm gonna get some land in Plenty Wood, Montana. I've got some, I've got a lot of canned food stored and a lot of munitions and we're just going over there and we need some women too because we got to start repopulating but we're just doing our own thing. Roger, come on out. You can fly the puddle jumper. You got it. We're going back and forth into Alaska for ammunition and stuff we can't find here in the States. Pemmican, stuff like that. Halibut, dried halibut. It's gonna be a community. It's gonna be awesome. No rules. Oh, I mean, my rules.

25:38 Drew I was just gonna say.

25:39 Adam My rules, but come on, those are cool. All right, Roger Cross here tonight from Fox's 24. Monday night, 9 o'clock. We'll take a quick break, be right back after this.

25:52 Hello, this is your radio.

25:55 LoveLine will be right back.

26:01 Adam Yeah.

26:03 Drew Especially the militant ones.

26:07 Adam Gotta have a big skin.

26:08 Drew Hey, Roger.

26:10 You know that guy named Adam?

26:11 Roger Cross Yeah. He's calling.

26:13 Adam who?

26:18 Adam It's LoveLine. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-E-E-191. Roger Cross is here tonight. One of the stars of 24. Big hit on Fox. Gathering momentum. Bigger this season than ever. Nine o'clock, Monday nights. Also got a movie coming out April 22nd. Little something called King's Ransom and an aviation buff.

26:45 Adam Pilot.

26:47 Adam I tell you, man, for Roger, when he's in the air, it's the only time he's free. For me, it's when I'm dancing.

26:51 Adam And when you're flying airplanes.

26:53 Adam When I'm flying model airplanes. The only time I'm really free is when I'm dancing.

26:56 Adam Yeah, I've seen you.

26:56 Adam That's when I feel free.

26:58 Drew Oh, they're tricky, though, man. Those model planes are incredible.

27:02 Adam Yeah, no, they are. They better be, or I'm a retard, because I've crashed like 10 of them. Now, some pilots do fly those model planes, and they say it's more difficult. But less at stake, but more difficult. Well, the thing about the model plane is, is when it's flying at you, right is left and left is right. And then when it goes past you, it changes again.

27:22 Drew True.

27:22 Adam You get the little stick. You don't have, you're not sitting in it.

27:26 Drew And you can't feel it.

27:27 Adam You can't feel it.

27:27 Drew You can feel it. You can adjust.

27:29 Adam You can react, right? I just do. You lose it. You can't tell where you are. I mean, you don't know what, yeah? Jets go like 300 miles an hour.

27:38 Adam Somebody's gonna be a nerd out there wearing helmets. Flying right through somebody.

27:42 Adam I can't believe it doesn't happen every day. All right.

27:45 Adam Gotta go to- I'm still looking for people that are hiding sexual secrets from their partners and people with aversions. I wanna talk.

27:50 Adam Me too. Gained 30 pounds since becoming a night watchman?

27:53 Adam No.

27:54 Adam No?

27:54 Adam Kevin, 93.

27:55 Adam All right.

27:57 Adam Kevin?

27:58 Adam Trust me on that one.

27:59 Adam 21? Yeah. Why? He's been on hold for 60 minutes.

28:03 Adam So is Kevin.

28:04 Adam All right. Go ahead, Kevin.

28:06 Roger Cross I'm a big fan of you guys' show, by the way.

28:08 Adam Thanks.

28:08 Roger Cross But anyway, I have a question about this girl that I've been with like off and on for the past seven years.

28:13 Adam Since you were 14, wow.

28:15 Roger Cross Yeah. We're both disabled, actually. I'm visually impaired and she has, I guess it's the condition where she's visually impaired and in a wheelchair too.

28:24 Adam I didn't hear that. She's visually impaired and what?

28:27 Adam In a wheelchair.

28:28 Adam Why is she in a wheelchair?

28:29 Roger Cross What?

28:30 Adam Why is she in a wheelchair?

28:31 Roger Cross She has this condition. I'm not sure exactly the name of it.

28:34 Adam Spina Bifida.

28:35 Roger Cross But it's like her nervous system is deteriorating.

28:37 Adam Oh my. Yeah.

28:38 Roger Cross So pretty much everything is going like kind of slowly. But anyways, we're having this problem now where she lives with a roommate.

28:47 Adam Hold on a second. I got questions. Now you say visually impaired. We've gotten into this before because blind people don't like to be called blind. But to me, visually impaired means, well, you can't drive or I hold the hand and it's fuzzy or I can't see things far away. But is visually impaired blind?

29:07 Roger Cross Well, I'm legally blind. I do have some vision.

29:09 Adam You do. You do. Okay. Is she fully blind?

29:12 Roger Cross No.

29:13 Adam Okay. All right. So she's in a wheelchair. Does she have use of her arms?

29:17 Roger Cross Yeah.

29:17 Adam Okay.

29:18 Adam All right.

29:19 Adam I don't know.

29:20 Adam You're not describing a medical syndrome that makes sense.

29:23 Adam Why?

29:23 Adam It just doesn't make sense. Spina bifida would work, but that's not a progressively degenerative process.

29:28 Adam Oh, it isn't? I don't know.

29:30 Adam I don't know. How did you come up with that?

29:31 Adam You said it.

29:33 Adam I started to say it, but I don't think I said it.

29:34 Adam Oh, well, now it's scary because we're, you know.

29:38 Drew You've been working together a long time.

29:39 Adam Yeah. We picked it up from like, boom.

29:41 Adam You've been thinking about killing engineer Chris or is that just me? Or is it you thinking it and put it in my brain?

29:46 Adam What's in my brain?

29:47 Adam Either way, he's got to go.

29:50 Adam I heard spinal bifida. Spinal bifida. Spina bifida.

29:56 Adam That's by the way, what makes Chris a junior college student because you said spina bifida but he heard spinal bifida.

30:02 Adam I know. So, Kevin, what's the question?

30:05 Roger Cross Well, she's living with this roommate now and she's been abused kind of in the past, like when she was younger, both physically and I guess she was raped to once or twice.

30:15 Adam Who rapes someone in a wheelchair?

30:18 Roger Cross I'm not sure. I think one of her family members did at one point.

30:21 Adam Kevin, you've been with her for seven years. You've not asked her who did that to her?

30:24 Roger Cross Yeah, I know who did it to her. I just don't want to give out to her too much.

30:27 Adam All right.

30:27 Adam It's either the world's worst guy or the world's laziest guy.

30:32 Roger Cross But anyway, so now we've been off and on together and now she's in this apartment with her roommate and they're really good friends and they get along pretty well for the most part. But she, I guess, hit her once or twice. Well, a couple of times.

30:47 Adam Is she her roommate or is she like an attendant?

30:50 Roger Cross She's her roommate.

30:51 Adam The roommate has hit her.

30:52 Drew The roommate hit her.

30:53 Roger Cross Yeah. But anyway.

30:54 Adam All right, hold on a second. We got a powwow here. There's something going on.

30:58 Adam Yeah, it doesn't almost sound like a, not bogus, but that it's a confabulation on the behalf of her as a girlfriend. Because what is in it for the roommate to hit this woman?

31:08 Drew Yeah.

31:08 Adam There's nothing in it for her, right?

31:10 Drew Or is she abusive or is she like, you know, verbal?

31:12 Adam Unless she's on drugs and is just sort of acting out crazily.

31:15 Adam I don't want to, I would like to imagine that we don't live in a world where roommates smack their roommates or are confined to a wheelchair and have a seeing disorder, have an eye problem. But something's going on here because she has a disease that he doesn't really know about, even though they've known each other for seven years. She was abused sexually.

31:37 Adam But they-

31:38 Adam The whole wheelchair thing, and this almost feels like whatever's going on with her may be going on in her mind as well as her body.

31:48 Adam Oh, for sure.

31:48 Adam And maybe even her mind controlling her body. The wheelchair is a little bit extreme for that.

31:56 Adam Let's ask more questions.

31:57 Adam All right. Who are we talking to?

31:58 Adam Kevin.

32:00 Adam Kevin.

32:01 Roger Cross Yep.

32:02 Adam You don't know the name of her disease?

32:05 Roger Cross No, I don't. I don't think she does either because I don't think the doctors have actually classified it. It's just they said her nervous system is deteriorating.

32:12 Adam Really?

32:12 Adam No.

32:12 Adam They usually put a name.

32:13 Adam No, there will be a name to it.

32:14 Adam Or it becomes like a comet. Your name gets on it.

32:18 Adam Right. It gets the doctor's name on it. Yeah.

32:19 Adam My whole thing is I don't want to go by horrible disease. But if I do, I don't want to be Lou Carrick.

32:23 Adam Right.

32:24 Adam I'm going to go by the Ace Man.

32:25 Adam Ace Man syndrome. Yes, of course.

32:26 Roger Cross They were actually telling her that she wasn't supposed to live past certain ages. At one point, they told her she wasn't going to live past 18 and stuff like that.

32:33 Adam Yeah. But what has she got? If they're going to say, prognosticate that way, they know what the syndrome is. That's how they can.

32:39 Adam How would they know?

32:40 Roger Cross We don't know the name.

32:41 Drew Sounds like an episode of House.

32:43 Adam Yeah. Really? All right. Anyway, so she's got this thing. She's an abuse survivor and abuse is continuing to be perpetrated upon her. What about this roommate? What's her deal?

32:51 Roger Cross She's just, they're living together.

32:53 Adam Yeah. So I get that. Wait, Adam, you got that?

32:55 Adam Hold on a second.

32:56 Adam What about the roommate?

32:57 Adam Because this is news.

32:58 Adam What about this roommate and?

33:00 Adam Lives together.

33:01 Adam Lives together.

33:01 Adam They're living together.

33:03 Adam That's as much information as I need, I guess.

33:06 Adam Hold on. Kevin.

33:07 Roger Cross Yeah, sorry about that.

33:08 Adam Is there any, are you attending junior college at this point?

33:11 Roger Cross No, but I might be in the future.

33:12 Adam Oh, yes.

33:13 Roger Cross I know what you think about that.

33:14 Adam He's looking forward to junior college.

33:15 Adam Yes. Come on, buddy. I smell potential.

33:20 Adam Kevin, is the roommate a drug addict that you would be acting out?

33:23 Adam No, I don't think so.

33:24 Adam What kind of animal would hit someone in a wheelchair?

33:27 Adam For no reason.

33:27 Roger Cross That's the thing. She seems like a really, really nice person. Like, I've met her.

33:30 Drew Have you ever seen her?

33:31 Adam So is it possible your friend is sort of confabulating this, or is it sort of a little, hmm?

33:37 Roger Cross I don't know, because I've never seen it, you know, but she's just...

33:39 Adam Oh, okay.

33:39 Adam Yeah, I'll put money on that one.

33:41 Adam Here's the thing. Oh, let me just... You don't want to kick people when they're down. Your friend seems like they have physical and emotional problems.

33:50 Adam Yes, which, you know, often go together. But she sounds like a professional victim.

33:54 Adam Yes.

33:55 Adam And that she is creating some chaos in her, wherever she goes.

33:59 Adam And Kevin, I'm not sure what... Are you trying to save her? Do you have romantic interests in her? What's up?

34:07 Roger Cross I do. I want to stay with this girl, but she's kind of reliant, you know, relying on this roommate because, you know, she needs someone to take care of her right now. And I'm pretty far away from her.

34:15 Adam Well, now, wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So the roommate is an attendant. She's not just a roommate. She's somebody that's been...

34:21 Adam Didn't Drew ask that, like, what seems like an hour ago?

34:24 Roger Cross Oh, yeah. Yeah, I guess. I guess so. Sorry. But I guess he kind of figured that he does offer with, like, using the bathroom and stuff like that, you know. Okay.

34:32 Adam Well, okay. We still can't figure out... Okay, here's the question. Does a roommate wear funky white shoes?

34:39 Roger Cross I don't know. I can't see that one.

34:40 Adam Does the roommate get paid to accompany a friend and take care of him?

34:44 Roger Cross Yeah, she does. I think so. To some extent.

34:46 Adam That's not a roommate.

34:47 Adam That's a nurse.

34:48 Roger Cross Yeah.

34:49 Adam Yeah.

34:50 Adam Okay, I understand people have roommates that don't wipe their ass.

34:54 Roger Cross Right.

34:55 Adam Mine did. I just got lucky.

34:57 Adam I wasn't wiping, Adam.

34:59 Drew He wasn't.

35:01 Adam Well, that's what he called it.

35:03 Drew I don't need to know all that.

35:04 Adam Yeah. Look, it's use a bottle brush. You really want to get it clean. You know what, Drew?

35:10 Adam And that wasn't a bottle brush.

35:11 Adam You know what? I'm looking into all of this.

35:14 Adam You're right, buddy.

35:16 Adam My goodness. You know what?

35:18 Adam Yeah.

35:20 Adam Yep. Yep. It just came into focus.

35:22 Adam Didn't have bristles on it.

35:23 Adam No.

35:24 Adam Not most of them.

35:25 Adam No. It was a smooth bottle brush. It was plunger shaped.

35:28 Adam Yeah. I'm telling you.

35:30 Adam And I was like, yeah. Yeah. And I can still feel the guy's beer on my back.

35:36 Drew I can still feel it.

35:38 Adam Thank God he used one of those beer koozies. It wasn't as cold. It was a little foam rubber.

35:42 Adam That's good.

35:43 Adam Yeah. That's what you call a gentleman.

35:44 Adam Oh, yeah.

35:45 Adam Yeah. Sir Walter Robb. Absolutely. All right. Kevin. Oh, boy.

35:50 Adam All right, Kevin. So stay with her. I don't know what you want from us. I doubt that that attendant is actually abusive to her. Keep an eye on it. If you need to report, there are lots of laws in place to protect people from caretakers. If you believe that you're even suspicious, call Adult Protective Services. They can help you out.

36:08 Adam Yeah.

36:09 Adam I hate to bring that up if she's in a stable situation that's working for her because she sounds like somebody that gets a little delusional about these things.

36:16 Drew What about her parents and family and all that?

36:20 Adam Drew, what about the nurse who doesn't, is not prepared to make the commitment of mercy killing, but just wants to get in a mercy abusing.

36:27 Adam Just a little smacking around.

36:28 Adam Just hang around.

36:29 Adam Yeah, I know.

36:31 Adam But look, my grandmother is in a wheelchair and once in a while, I got to get her out of the car in the wheelchair thing and it's like, you grab onto their foot and you're trying to lift it out and it's like, oh, and it's like.

36:44 Adam Right. You've been abusing me, you hurt me.

36:45 Adam The neighbor thinks I'm beating the crap out of her.

36:47 Adam Right.

36:48 Adam No, I mean, I back hater when she yells, but she started it by screaming.

36:52 Adam Well, so I'm saying.

36:53 Adam Scared the hell out of me and that made me ashamed of me. No, but it's true if you're helping someone on and off the toilet and they have, they hurt their skins coming off of them and stuff. Yeah, it's tough.

37:05 Adam They're going to hurt moving around.

37:07 Adam These people, by the way, who get 10 bucks an hour for changing the diaper and pulling them out of bed, and getting them into the wheelchair, could only, I mean, these people need that. There's the list of people that make more money than they do, like parking enforcement personnel or meter maid, who you guys kid. You know what I'm saying? That's the list that is above them. Yeah. They need a raise. We want to talk about someone who needs a tip jar. Forget about the guy at the bagel shop or the coffee shop.

37:38 Adam You've had those conversations with your grandma. Yeah, it's awesome.

37:41 Adam It's awesome. It's great. Yeah, my grandmother is real liberal. But here's the thing about super liberal people. They like to just whine, but they never bust out their wallet. It's just a lot of whining. Like I go, got a new sports car grandma. She'll go, Delia lives in an apartment with 26 kids, and has to use a cooler for a coffee table. I'm like, all right, well, why don't you give her a raise? Hell no. There you go. Then shut up. Bethany?

38:15 Caller Yes.

38:16 Adam 22?

38:17 Caller Hey, how you doing?

38:18 Adam What's up? We better take a break. All right.

38:20 Adam Let's see, you're 22. Oh, you got big boobs?

38:27 Adam What?

38:28 Caller Yeah, I do.

38:28 Adam What size?

38:29 Caller 34 D.

38:30 Adam What? 30? 34 D?

38:32 Adam Oh, Adam, that's right in there for you.

38:34 Adam That's nice. Yeah. Roger's into that too. What's the what's the rest of you like?

38:39 Caller Five seven 108 pounds.

38:41 Whoa.

38:43 Caller Yeah.

38:43 Adam Wow. My penis just got heavier. It's gained a pound. Got up to one pound, two ounces. All right. All right, Bethany, hold on a second. That novelty, you know, that small back that sort of small frame and the big D cups. Yeah. That's hard to say no to. To what? And that's why you got to focus on that numbers. Well, cause that's a 34 D.

39:14 Adam So you want for your world, it's 34 and under.

39:17 Adam Well, you know, it doesn't really go any, any, any, any much under 34.

39:22 Adam Oh, really? So that's.

39:24 Adam Yeah. But here's what I'm saying. You hear these chicks talking about, oh yeah. Yeah. No, I'm a brick house. I'm a 42 D. Well, that just means you're built like, you're built like Dennis Franz with a set of knockers on you. I don't need that big back. Yeah. All right.

39:38 Drew Are these real?

39:40 Adam Oh, they are. They better be. I'm going to be angry. Roger Cross here tonight. Fox is 24, nine o'clock, Monday nights. We'll take ourselves a quick break. Be right back after this.

39:52 Thank you for calling Loveline. Your call will be answered in the order it seems interesting.

40:01 Adam That's why I say we're not done with Germany.

40:05 Drew Are you never going to take Frank on too?

40:07 Adam No, we're going to take Frank.

40:08 Adam He's a nice kid.

40:10 Adam Hold for 75 minutes.

40:14 Drew Poor Frank.

40:15 Adam Poor Frank. Three, two, one, go. Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Roger Cross here tonight from 24, Fox, Monday nights at 9 o'clock and got a little movie coming out called King's Ransom which is coming out on April 22nd.

40:35 Adam When did the acting start? When did that go from aviation to acting?

40:38 Adam Well, I was flying model planes. I'm sorry.

40:43 Drew Early 90s.

40:45 Adam Something you always wanted to do or just something by accident?

40:46 Drew I did it like in school, in high school and took drama in college and enjoyed it just for fun. I remember they had Black Monday in 1989, the Stockmore hit crash. Of course the aviation industry is the first one hit. Young pilot trying to get a job, doing some charter work occasionally and trying to make ends meet, working at a bar, that sort of thing. And then I got this, someone said, oh, they need some people to do some, like play some basketball and do some stunts on Jump Street.

41:19 Adam I was like, yeah, that's fun.

41:21 Drew I did that. I thought, this is all right. I like it. I like it. So in my spare time, I thought, let me go back to Breck Academy. Went to Breck Academy and studied acting there.

41:29 Adam To make sure you're cool there. Yeah. Yeah. It's so easy.

41:34 Drew So, you know, and then I just kind of transitioned from there. Started doing it more and more.

41:37 Adam And do you know how often do you fly? Do you say I mean, not for living, obviously, but you still get out and do nothing.

41:45 Drew Not right now. I'm on the contract.

41:47 Adam And they will let you insurance reasons.

41:49 Drew Yeah. Insurance reasons.

41:50 Adam Wow.

41:50 Adam Yeah. So a plane goes down. You work that right into the script.

41:54 Drew You know what I mean? Yeah. Now they'll find a way.

41:56 Adam Now I'd be like, yeah, you can fly.

41:59 Drew Yeah.

41:59 Adam You just got to we got to bring camera with you. In case something goes bad, we got we got three episodes. All right.

42:05 Adam Bethany, your buddy. Let's go get her back on.

42:07 Adam Bethany. Yeah.

42:07 Adam I'm surprised you weren't anxious chomping to get back at her.

42:10 Adam Yeah. I like flying too. Bethany.

42:13 Caller Hey.

42:13 Adam 22-57-108-34-D.

42:20 Caller Yeah.

42:21 Adam Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

42:23 Caller I used to be like a 34-D to C. And then once I start birth control, I just went up to a good size D. And so I was wondering if there are other kinds of birth control. I'm already on like the low hormone pill.

42:36 Adam Really? Even on the low hormone this happened to you? Well, the alternative would to go on the progestational types of pills, like the DepoProvera Shot or the Ultramini Dose Pills, that kind of thing.

42:46 Adam Trying to get her up to a double D?

42:48 Adam Yeah. But you might... And some women, you got to be really careful with the DepoProvera. You ever taken that, the DepoShot?

42:56 Drew No.

42:56 Adam That will make you have, essentially, continuous bleeding for three months and then no period after that, for as long as you take the shot, basically. Some women get kind of dry and shut down sexually from that, but some women, it goes the other way. You might be one of those. Do you have any other side effects from the estrogen in the pills? No. Just the breast growth.

43:20 Adam You don't want the 5, 8, 5, 7, 109ers with the D cups drying up. You know what I mean? It's like pulling a spark plug wires off a Ferrari or something. You don't want the ones that dry out.

43:35 Adam It's unsettling.

43:35 Adam Now, some of the mamas we got calling from Riverside, big loads, they go ahead and dry themselves up. The society is not going to miss them, but it's a crying shame to see. It's like drying up Bethany, it's like an athlete having a horrific injury in his prime. You know what I mean? It's a shame.

43:53 Adam Bethany, do you have a boyfriend now?

43:55 Caller I do.

43:56 Roger Cross Yeah.

43:56 Adam Everything going okay?

43:58 Roger Cross Yeah.

43:58 Caller Yeah, things are good.

43:59 Adam All right. What are you doing? You're calling from Santa Barbara. You're going to school?

44:02 Caller Yeah, I'm a secretary.

44:04 Adam Nice. I like that. Hot secretary. See you in Playboy.

44:08 Caller All right.

44:09 Adam So what you got to do, Drew?

44:10 Adam So have you tried progesterone pills like other shot?

44:12 Caller No, I haven't.

44:13 Adam Okay. Talk to your doctor about that. Because if you're already on a low dose pill and having all those estrogen effects, you may have to switch all the way over the progesterones. Okay?

44:22 Adam Good times. Good attitude. Big hands.

44:25 Adam There are other kinds of estrogens out there too. You might talk to your doctor about the pill with some estrogen. There's different types of estrogens.

44:32 Adam We're going to talk to Frank over here. He's 23. Frank?

44:36 Hey, what's going on, Adam?

44:37 Adam What's happening, Frank? You gained 30 pounds since you became a night watchman?

44:41 Yeah, man. It really sucks.

44:43 Adam What do you do? You're just sitting around snacking, huh?

44:47 Pretty much.

44:48 I got this job to help me get through school. I'm working in a new high rise down in my city. Originally, we used to be able to walk around the building, check to make sure everything was all locked up and tidy. But when they installed cameras, now we have to sit at a desk and buzz people into the building and just sit around.

45:08 Adam You got one of those thigh masters.

45:11 Drew How many hours do you work?

45:13 You wouldn't believe it, but every paycheck I'm working 128 hours.

45:17 Adam What? There's not that many in a week, is there?

45:22 This is what I do. It's eight hours every day, Monday through Friday. Then I work 12 hours Saturday and then I work 12 hours Sunday.

45:30 Adam That's 64.

45:31 Adam Yeah.

45:31 By weekly.

45:33 Adam 120 hours a day for two weeks.

45:34 Adam Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

45:35 I'm like, jeez.

45:36 Adam Well, he is a security guard, isn't he? Engineer Chris goes to school three and a half hours a week, so take that. All right.

45:46 I spoke to you guys a couple of years ago. I called in and I had a problem with the man boobs. I started working out and getting myself in shape and I lost close to what, 50 pounds and I was closer to 60, I think.

46:00 Adam You need to do that again.

46:01 Adam Here's the thing. Look, do the math, everyone. Don't sit around and snack, try to move around a little bit. I know you got a job or you're sitting around, you got to move when you're not at work. That's right. Yeah.

46:11 Adam And not eat when you are at work.

46:13 Adam Yeah.

46:13 Drew Or even if you're there, bring something in, do squats, do whatever.

46:16 Adam Also, get on a proper diet. I mean, you won't be as prone to eat carbohydrates if you're on a nice, eat real food, fruit and vegetables.

46:23 Adam You sit there and do those Kegel exercises.

46:26 Adam Yeah, where you get that perineum, you're cracking nuts. It's not supersized. We'll talk about that when we get back. Also, I got to talk to people who are hiding sexual secrets from their partner and who have sexual fears and aversions who are willing to help me on a television show. Call him.

46:37 Adam Roger Cross, Say Here Night from 24. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Hey everybody, it's the Love Line, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1-er. Who's coming in here?

47:21 Adam Pepper, Louis XIV, Nicky Ziering, your favorite.

47:24 Adam She's a delight. Roger Cross here tonight from a real TV show. Yeah.

47:31 Adam A real hit TV show.

47:33 Adam Just a real show. None of that deep cable crap.

47:36 Adam Like you and I are doing? Yeah, like us. I've got to talk to people tonight. One more time. Hiding sexual secrets from your partner or fears and aversions that prevent you from having happy sex, call in, want to talk to you.

47:48 Adam No one's going to talk about hiding sexual secrets.

47:51 Adam Right. That's what I thought too. Right. We can hide you in a booth. You people can't identify you. That's the way we used to do it in Loveline.

47:57 Adam Yeah. I don't care about people.

47:58 Drew Jerry Springer finds me.

48:00 Adam It's not people identifying you, it's your old lady identifying you. That's the only one you care about.

48:05 Adam Electronically modify your voice and all that good stuff.

48:08 Adam They do that once in a while.

48:10 Drew That'd be the worst way to find something out. I'm serious. I'm amazed there aren't more murders when I see those shows.

48:17 Adam I like it when they just give the guy fake name. We're calling him Andy. Don't call him anything if you're not going to give me his real name. It's not like they use it either. It's not like, Andy, when did you be?

48:27 Drew They'll change his name, but he's from Seattle and he lives on Washington Street.

48:32 Adam I'll tell you the show. That hooker's on the point. That show on Showtime or HBO. Now, they mic up the hookers who climb into the guy's cars. They don't have cameras. They don't show the Johns. They don't show the guys who go solicit, but they show the guy pull up in the 89 Maxima with the Bondo'd out rear fender and all they do is fuzz out the license plate now. Plus, you hear the guy's voice. I mean, if they're old ladies watching the show, they know the guy's driving the 89 Rust colored Acura with the Bondo'd up left fender, and they hear the guy begging for it. Plus, they hear the guy's preference. Come on, how much for a thumb in me? It's like, they know that's the guy because he's the thumb guy, right? I mean, that's the whole thing. Like, Drew, your old lady would know immediately what you're...

49:22 Adam With the thumb. Oh, with the thumb thing immediately.

49:24 Adam Well, whatever your thing is.

49:26 Drew Whatever your thing is.

49:27 Adam Hey, you know, talking about Jamaica, it's an interesting thing. We've had Jamaican bands in here over the years, and there were two sort of cultural things that came just flying out about their sexual stuff. One was, at least this is a few years ago, a real aversion to homosexuality.

49:42 Drew True.

49:43 Adam I mean, like, woof.

49:44 Drew I know it's pervasive in a lot of music and stuff, too. That's true.

49:47 Adam I mean, like, violent.

49:48 Adam It's the only thing they're not laid back about.

49:51 Adam But the other thing was sex during menses. They had a whole thing about that, like the soul was going to be stolen or something weird was going to happen.

50:00 Adam Come on, Drew, that's insulting.

50:02 Adam No, no, but they really had this sort of voodoo thing.

50:04 Drew It goes back to the old biblical thing, people, like religion, feeling that that's the impure time and being with a woman can make you impure, all that sort of thing.

50:12 Adam This is the same stuff I remember.

50:13 Drew It's biblical, it's a biblical thing.

50:15 Adam I'm an atheist, but that's one doctor and I go by it.

50:18 Adam The impure time. Yeah.

50:20 Drew You know?

50:22 Adam Listen, I don't know what culture, I mean, I'm trying to think, I think the culture-

50:27 Adam What are you guys on my show? Yeah, yeah, listen to this. You're the version of having sex during menses, you pussies.

50:32 Adam Oh, Drew.

50:33 Drew Oh, Drew, we don't need to know that much about your life.

50:37 Adam Let me tell you something, Drew's a man of passion. Poor women, here's the thing. A couple of things, Drew is a basically he is like a junkie when you say, no, a sexual junkie, sex junkie, where you say something like, my god, you're using a needle that the guy, you saw the guy use it but right before you didn't sterilize it or you're scoring stuff. You don't know where it comes from. No, what I'm saying is, is you go, the guy, it's like, that's the disease.

51:05 Adam Right, right.

51:05 Adam What you take chances.

51:06 Adam I don't understand the implication.

51:07 Adam No, no, but Drew, you are so passionate.

51:09 Adam That would imply though that I would have sex with other people.

51:12 Adam No, no, no, I'm not saying that. I just mean that your passion rivals that of the junkiest junkie. What I mean is, you have a passion and when you have a passion.

51:22 Adam Things will get in the way.

51:23 Adam Yeah, it's sort of, what it is is you watch Survivor and it's like, oh, look what they're eating. Oh, they're a fly. No, no, no, when you're hungry, when you're really hungry, you don't care if a fly landed on a piece of coconut or something, you're putting it in you.

51:37 Drew Exactly.

51:38 Adam I don't have, you're on an island. You're on an island of Puntang and you're hungry. You know what I mean?

51:46 Drew So whenever you can get.

51:47 Adam Yeah. I'm more like, I'm in a casino. I like some, but I'll go by the buffet and fill up. I'm not desperate. You know what I'm saying? Passionate. Passion Island. That's a good TV. That's a good late night cinemax. Passion Island. Starring like Brandy Marie.

52:03 Adam Remember the old Thompson Twin song, Passion Planet?

52:06 Adam No, that's you, Drew. Whichever one you're on, that's what it becomes. Randy?

52:11 Yeah.

52:12 Adam Yeah, 19. What's going on?

52:16 Adam My fiance has problems when she kisses me.

52:21 She has flashbacks of her dad hitting her. Whoa.

52:27 Adam Turn your radio off, Randy. Thank you. Okay. Has she been treated for post-traumatic stress disorder?

52:35 She doesn't want to tell anybody.

52:36 Adam Well, it's good that she'd tell somebody, Randy, because this is not going to get better. You're not going to fix it.

52:42 Adam Her dad abused her by hitting her?

52:46 Abused her, hitting her.

52:48 Adam She told me that she was raped too.

52:51 Adam Yes.

52:52 Drew That's why the kissing.

52:53 Adam Yeah. By dad?

52:55 Yeah.

52:56 Adam That's heavy stuff.

52:57 I really don't like her dad now.

52:58 Adam I know, but that's got to be treated.

53:00 Adam Give him a chance.

53:00 Adam Randy, that's got to be treated. It's good that she have a stable relationship with you, but this is going to be like riding a bucking bronco.

53:09 Adam Right. I'll wait around as close to the F-word there. Hey, Randy. Yeah. You need to not get married too quickly.

53:17 Drew Yeah.

53:17 Adam Take it easy, but get her some professional help. I can't say that strongly enough.

53:21 Drew At 19, man, your life changes so much over the next few years.

53:24 Oh, yeah.

53:26 Drew You want to slow down. If you're going to be together forever, you'll be there.

53:30 Adam Hey, what about kids?

53:34 We're going to wait for that too.

53:35 Adam We?

53:35 Adam Uh-oh.

53:36 Adam They're already talking about kids?

53:37 Adam Are you using birth control?

53:41 She is.

53:42 Adam She was? Why isn't she now?

53:44 I'm using condoms.

53:45 Adam All right.

53:46 Adam You better use them fastidiously, diligently, routinely.

53:50 Adam There you go. Keep getting easier. Like all the time, dude. Here's the thing.

53:55 Adam Thank you.

53:58 Adam Randy, first off, your work is cut out for you. Because women that were abused this way.

54:05 Adam This is wholesale abuse. This is a big time abuse.

54:07 Adam Sexual and physical abuse, yes.

54:08 Adam To have Flashback just with kisses.

54:10 Drew Kissing, yeah.

54:10 Adam One thing is that Flashback drinks sex, but she gets contacted Flashback.

54:14 Adam All right.

54:14 Adam That is bad time.

54:15 Drew How old is she?

54:16 Adam Hold on a second. Randy, how old is she? 17. Tip.

54:21 Drew Whoa.

54:21 Adam You're 19?

54:23 Adam Yeah.

54:24 Adam You're getting engaged or you are engaged?

54:26 Yeah. We're going to wait like three or four years until she turns like 23 to get married.

54:31 Adam All right. Seven years.

54:32 That's six years. It's a promise.

54:36 Adam I understand.

54:37 Adam Get her seven years of therapy in the meantime.

54:39 Adam I don't see if we can squeeze nine years into that seven. Yeah. This whole thing, it's such an adolescent move, just that impulse of like, we're not ready to get married, but we are going to get engaged because we want to commit to each other in the ninth grade. It's such a white trash move. It really suggests you're not going to get married for ten years. And by the way, why don't you fill out a job application for when you're in the fourth grade?

55:05 Adam Right.

55:05 Adam You know what I mean?

55:06 Adam It's insecurity. It's like, I can't imagine. We got to lock this in so there's no chance that she strays. That'll go.

55:12 Adam No, I'll tell you what will work better, liquid nitrogen. You just put her in freezer.

55:18 Adam You just thaw her out in a few years. That's basically what this is.

55:20 Adam It's an attempt at it, but here's the thing. Meanwhile, a couple of kids are crapped out, and then it doesn't work out so well because the condom didn't get used at the theater. Here's the thing. When somebody was sexually and physically abused by their father, it takes a lot of therapy to make them right. It doesn't mean they're bad, but to say that they're not damaged in some way, shape, or form is being horribly naive and unfair to the person that needs fixing.

55:47 Adam It's not even a psychological damage. It is a brain damage. The wiring is affected by that kind of trauma and it needs to be dealt with.

55:56 Adam You are just as negligent or we are as a society, ignoring this as if the kid came out down with diabetes at 13. They need to be tended to. End of discussion. There are certain things they can't do. They can't go camping without their insulin, and they can't have kids at 16 and 17 because they're horrible parents.

56:16 Adam What these kids will do is have kids and create lawsuits. That's the other thing. Those are the two things they do best.

56:22 Drew I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but could this lead to a violent reaction from her possibly one day?

56:28 Adam It will be a special kind of violence. It will be a chaos. It's not likely to be... They don't usually really, truly violently act out, but they sort of act out in a way they might as well be violent because of the chaos they create.

56:40 Adam Lots of kids, lots of instability hooking up with guys that get violent, with the guys do the damage. Now, what they do is...

56:47 Adam They make somebody else do it for them.

56:48 Adam The woman doesn't actually physically abuse the kids. They just bring the fox into the hen house. They just go... They leave the door open.

56:55 Adam And make sure that they get abused, too.

56:56 Adam They meet a guy and bring them in. Oh, yeah, they get abused. Fox takes a bite out of them, too. But they go out and find the alcoholic pedophile abuser guy and bring them back in.

57:05 Adam They're attracted to that because that's what dad was.

57:07 Drew Exactly.

57:08 Adam Yeah, it's perfect. And we're we seem to be the only guys on the planet who either know this or talk about it. Everyone else is, hey, you gotta pull yourself up by bootstraps and get busy.

57:18 Adam You gotta choose to stop this.

57:20 Roger Cross You gotta choose.

57:21 Adam You gotta choose to stop those flashbacks because I can choose to rewire my brain. Will it into place.

57:27 Adam Yeah. You gotta remember what what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. Yeah. Yeah. Just a whole adolescence full of nice sexual abuse. That'll make you stronger because you're not you're still your heart beating.

57:40 Adam Yeah. You're not dead.

57:41 Adam Made stronger.

57:42 Adam Yeah.

57:42 Adam It's just like a horrible burns. Well, especially over 90 percent of your body makes you stronger. Like Howard Hughes, we got in a car that that plane crash.

57:51 Adam Made him stronger.

57:52 Adam When he was done. Yeah. After six months in the hospital, it was stronger.

57:55 Adam And then how about how about the severe depressions that occur and the suicide?

57:59 Adam Stronger. It didn't kill you, Drew. It made you stronger.

58:04 Adam It didn't kill yourself.

58:05 Adam No, I agree with Drew. You got to choose to get better. Everyone's got to choose. Jamie?

58:10 Adam Yeah.

58:10 Adam Hold on a second. I can't choose for you. I like that. I like super, super obvious blowhardy guy. Listen people, I'd be lying to you if I told you that I could choose for you. There's only one person in this room who can choose for you, and that person is you. Yeah, super blowhardy guy. I got a ponytail and huge calves. I don't get laid, but I pretend like I do, and I got a leather fanny pack.

58:39 Who wants some?

58:40 Adam That's right. And I could take all of you.

58:43 Drew I get the first punch hit.

58:45 Adam Yeah. You gotta choose. And I like this one too. I'm not going to be at your house. I'm not your mommy. I'm not your wet nurse. I'm not your girlfriend. I'm not going to show up every day and get you out of bed and tell you gotta choose. No, you gotta choose to choose. And choose, choose, choose, choose, choose, choose, choose.

59:04 Adam Jamie.

59:04 Adam It's like a Rollos commercial.

59:06 Adam Did you see the guy?

59:07 Adam Remember the Rollos commercial?

59:09 Adam No.

59:09 Adam There are lots of chewy Rollos in a roll for you if you're choosy about what you choose. Real milk chocolate and caramel too. To chew, chew, chew.

59:19 Adam To chew, chew, chew. Did you see the woman that talked down that guy that shot everybody in court the other day?

59:25 Adam Opened the Bible.

59:26 Adam Yeah, it was interesting. That was very interesting.

59:28 Adam The guy shot everyone, went on a rampage.

59:31 Adam You do hear that kind of thing somehow, that somebody gets it. Richard Ramirez, same thing, remember?

59:35 Adam He got talked down.

59:37 Adam He didn't kill this one woman, and she was unable to identify him.

59:39 Adam Yeah.

59:40 Adam What is that? We do affect one another. We do affect one another. There's no doubt about it.

59:46 Adam Yeah. I wouldn't have the watchtower, the Bible or anything. It's like, I got Girls Gone Wild and a black and white tape of me playing high school football. Which one? Oh, shooting starts. Yeah.

1:00:02 Drew And he takes your videos.

1:00:03 Adam That's right. Jamie?

1:00:05 Yeah.

1:00:05 Adam All right, go ahead, baby. You're depressed?

1:00:08 Huh?

1:00:09 Adam Are you depressed?

1:00:11 I'm not depressed, but I'm not happy.

1:00:13 Adam All right, well go ahead.

1:00:15 All right. There's this radio DJ that I've been kind of sort of seeing on and off, but not really because we don't really get to spend a lot of time with each other, which kind of gets me too.

1:00:29 Adam Oh, crazy.

1:00:31 Yeah. He sits there and he, it's like one day he's all into me and the next day, I might as well not even be there. And so I'm insecure about that. And then on top of that, I go to call him today and-

1:00:43 Adam To what? Go to what?

1:00:44 Adam Call him.

1:00:45 Adam Call him, okay.

1:00:45 I called him today and there was another girl with him and it's like the first thing that popped in my head was, you know, I never get to spend time with you, but there's another girl there.

1:00:56 Adam How old is he?

1:00:58 How old is he?

1:00:58 Adam Yeah.

1:00:59 25.

1:01:01 Adam This is not a good translation for you. For many, many, many reasons. Not the least of which is that this is a radio guy.

1:01:10 Adam Hey, it's 829, 29 and a half o'clock. How about a hummer? Tell you what, I got our girl over there. It was 829, 29 and a half o'clock. We got ourselves a Savage Garden Super Set coming up at the top of the Arbor. First, we got to pay some bills. My good friends over at Galpin, Ford, number one sale for it's dealing days over at Galpin. Yeah.

1:01:31 Adam We've been ready for 10 years. It's not like we don't know what we're talking about.

1:01:33 Adam No. Radio people are horrible. The guys on the air are horrible. The people off the air are stupid, except for engineer Chris. Oh yeah. Anderson. That's right. Who else is here now?

1:01:46 Adam Lauren maybe.

1:01:47 Adam All right. Lauren if she's listening. So Jamie.

1:01:50 Adam Well, Jamie, we worry about who this guy is, especially the young guys that are on radio. They meet a lot of people. He's not your boyfriend. He's never said that he is. You want more from the relationship. You're not going to get it. You're just sitting in this state of longing that you're never going to get out of. And you have to really take a good hard look at things. If that state of longing to be with somebody is something you need to be in, that's bad news. If you don't need that and you want a real relationship, then get on with it and find a real relationship.

1:02:19 Well, see, I understand that. But why if it's not going to go anywhere? Every time I call the station and somebody else answers besides him, it's like, oh, is this his girlfriend? Hold on a second.

1:02:33 Adam Yeah.

1:02:33 Drew That's you looking for something that's.

1:02:34 Adam Well, that's him looking for something.

1:02:36 Adam Yeah, he's a bad guy. Yeah.

1:02:38 I don't know.

1:02:40 Adam He may have multiple girlfriends, Jamie. You don't want to be that girl.

1:02:44 Adam Girlfriend number 28, you're on the air.

1:02:48 Adam Yeah, come on. Get on. Have you had boyfriends in the past?

1:02:52 Yeah.

1:02:53 Adam Has that gone OK?

1:02:55 Well, I'm actually in the middle of a custody battle right now.

1:03:01 Adam With another bad guy.

1:03:02 Yeah.

1:03:03 Adam Nice.

1:03:04 Drew So you like bad guys.

1:03:06 I did.

1:03:10 Adam What do you have? How old's your kid?

1:03:13 Three. She is 16 months old.

1:03:16 Adam 16 months old. Oh, it's a she. Good.

1:03:18 Adam Stripper.

1:03:19 Adam We get a stripper instead of a violent criminal. It's awesome. No, seriously. For her, for you, for us, for everybody. Come on. I mean, imagine. Let's just do some math. Just imagine if every chick, every time a horrible young person crapped out a kid was a girl. It would just be a booming porn industry, some strippers, all that. It would be awesome. No, but prisons wouldn't fill up. The clubs would fill up. Yeah. It'd be awesome. They couldn't make poles fast enough. The guys over at ACME stripper pole manufacturing would be like, we're burning the midnight oil.

1:03:58 Adam We got wartime production.

1:04:00 Adam Yeah. Oh my God. There'd be recycling programs.

1:04:04 Adam Posters with women working at the poles.

1:04:07 Adam That's right. All the other industries.

1:04:10 Adam What would they call the world?

1:04:12 Adam Rosie the Riveter. All the ancillary industries too. The guys who made pole wax, the pole mounting brackets.

1:04:20 Adam Chroming industry.

1:04:21 Adam Chroming industry.

1:04:22 Adam Albinizing.

1:04:23 Drew Sanitizers.

1:04:24 Adam Through the roof. Oh, I can't. I think about the strip club, and once in a while, there's like a strip club version of a Zamboni, but it's a Mexican chick. They come running out, and they wipe everything down. It's like the guy follows the elephants when the circus comes down. Whenever I see the poor chick run out, she's always the chick with the big ass, who's a little too old, and she comes running out there, and she's got some Windex and a roll of paper towels. She's putting a little Purell on the pole, and she's giving the glass a wipe down, because the chick's got her cheek marks on the glass, and I always say to whoever's next to me, I would rather my daughter strip than be the rodeo clown that runs in and mops up. At least she's got, she may have her shirt off, but she's got her dignity. I'll tell you that. This one has to come in and wipe the place down.

1:05:17 Adam Weren't we talking earlier about a job like that?

1:05:19 Adam The show is getting started. We have discussed, I think we haven't discussed it for years, but they gotta run in, they gotta wipe the pole down, and they gotta wipe the mirror, because the chicks will work that mirror. They'll do that, you know, looking over the shoulder and slapping the ass against the thing. I would gladly take that gig though, when I was 19 or 20.

1:05:39 Adam I think that person, the one that works, putting the pubic hair on the fake genitalia, I mean, those women are the ones I wanna talk to. I mean, what do you tell your family, how much do you have paid, what do you wanna be doing?

1:05:51 Adam I have been to the dildo factory before.

1:05:54 Adam But don't you wanna talk to those people? I'm fascinated by who that is.

1:05:57 Adam No, I'll tell you who it is.

1:05:58 Adam Do you have other options? What do you tell them? Did you come to this country because you're planning to be the mop girl at the strip club?

1:06:03 Adam No, the ones at the pubic hair factory, the ones that sew the pubic hair onto the cyber nuts, are the ones, they're like Guatemalan chicks.

1:06:13 Adam They speak English?

1:06:14 Adam Not really, and they could just as easily be working at a factory that made religious candles. Right. It doesn't matter to them, it's just something's coming down the conveyor belt.

1:06:25 Adam But is that true? I wanna know, I wanna talk to them.

1:06:28 Adam But here's what it is. Look, you get nine bucks an hour, we don't need to see any proof of citizenship, and go man the belt. That's all. I mean, it's not like, what do they say to their kids? How do they look in the mirror? No, they're desperate. They're getting nine bucks an hour. You know, question's asked.

1:06:46 Adam I still wanna question them, how they think about it, say.

1:06:50 Adam I'm guessing.

1:06:51 Adam Any issues with this?

1:06:52 Adam Well, look, if you ever needed a Walkman or an iPod, that's the gig. We're just staring, sewing pubes into the Cyber Nuts.

1:07:00 Adam The Cyber Nut Shuffle.

1:07:01 Adam Here's the thing. I mean, talk to the guys who are working at McDonald's. You're getting five bucks an hour, you're standing over a hot grill, your cuticles smell like onions, and you got a sign that reads, a time to lean, time to clean.

1:07:14 Adam I saw that Super Sizer movie over the weekend. Well done.

1:07:17 Adam You like it?

1:07:17 Adam Very well done.

1:07:18 Adam I didn't see it.

1:07:19 Adam It's just, obviously, very smart film.

1:07:22 Adam Yeah, good.

1:07:22 Adam Well done.

1:07:23 Adam All right. Drew gives it a big thumbs up. I'm almost through a New York Minute, by the way. I get home.

1:07:31 Adam How many sittings?

1:07:32 Adam I get nostalgic. Five, six.

1:07:34 Adam It's the first piece of work that I've done that you've actually watched or read.

1:07:38 Adam I thought about it.

1:07:39 Adam No reading, but the movie. It's good. I appreciate that.

1:07:41 Adam No, Drew. But Drew, I get a glimpse of your genius every night here.

1:07:45 Adam I know. Yes.

1:07:47 Adam For two hours.

1:07:47 Adam That's why you don't read my stuff.

1:07:50 Adam You know what I feel. I feel like reading Poisons to Mind. That's my feeling. Roger Cross is here tonight from 24 on Fox, nine o'clock Monday nights. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

1:08:04 Thank you for calling Loveline. Your call will be answered in the order it seems interesting.

1:08:10 Call Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191.

1:08:15 Adam Now we're on the same page. Yeah, buddy, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Roger Cross here tonight from Fox's 24, Monday night, nine o'clock, best show on television. Thank you. So, I'll tell you, I go to work with a lot of snobs and I enjoy it too. Obviously, I'm not saying I don't, but these guys are no soft touches when it comes to the compliments on TV. Because, like Drew, you know how you hate all doctors? No, not attorneys. No, but I mean, you know what I mean, you're no fan of Dr. Phil.

1:09:03 Adam People claim to be Dr. Phil.

1:09:04 Adam Yeah, but when you do stuff, when you write for TV, you just make fun of other shows.

1:09:09 Adam Right. I've seen your buddies, yeah.

1:09:11 Adam Yeah, but they are very spiteful and vindictive and petty. But the point is, it's not about 24.

1:09:20 Adam Well, they appreciate real good stuff too.

1:09:22 Adam They certainly do. They certainly do. All right, go ahead.

1:09:27 Adam Also, at 1-800-LOVE-191, I'm looking for people who are hiding secrets from their partners, sexual secrets, and people who have fears or aversions about sexual acts that make it difficult for them. We found out something about Roger tonight in terms of his aversion to the menstrual period.

1:09:42 Caller I can't say.

1:09:44 Adam Can't judge.

1:09:44 Drew Can't judge. No, but I did not say that. I've never done it.

1:09:50 Adam I've never had the opportunity to do it.

1:09:53 Adam One could argue that never doing it is the same. Yeah.

1:09:56 Adam But anyway, so if you call that number, we want to talk to some people. I lead them for a television program if they're willing to get out and talk about it. We can hide them and shroud them in all kinds of secrets if they need be.

1:10:06 Adam Yeah. I think the whole thing about the Menci's sex thing is it really depends on who the blood is coming out of. You know what I mean? They're ones I would make exceptions for, and I'm sure Roger has a short list of gals that he could lift this policy for.

1:10:23 Drew Exactly.

1:10:23 Adam Especially if you knew that that window was going to shut and get painted closed and they were opening again.

1:10:29 Adam You had one shot at it, one opportunity.

1:10:30 Adam Oh, in that case, rules were meant to be broken.

1:10:35 Adam There would be no hesitation at that point.

1:10:38 Adam No.

1:10:39 Adam But there are some people in Jamaica that would hesitate rather seriously, right?

1:10:42 Drew There are people everywhere that would hesitate.

1:10:44 Adam No, but Jamaicans really have a thing about this. Whenever I've talked to Jamaicans, they always bring that one up.

1:10:49 Drew I don't have a serious issue about it, but I know people here.

1:10:52 Adam You're Canadian. That's all I can say.

1:10:54 Adam Here's the... I'm trying to think of the group. Now, I'm wondering, I'm trying to think of the guys, that the culture that would pull that cork the quickest.

1:11:07 Adam What would have no problem with the next one?

1:11:10 Adam I'm with you. Maybe the Jamaican guys not into that.

1:11:14 Adam They brought it... Every time I've talked to Jamaican guys, that's one of the ones that kind of bring it. If it comes up on the show or something, they go, oh my god, impossible.

1:11:20 Adam I understand.

1:11:20 Adam They react like viscerally. They have a reaction to it.

1:11:22 Adam They're angry. I'm trying to think of the group that would go for it. Maybe the Germans, but maybe the guys from South America.

1:11:31 Adam Maybe like Brazilians or something.

1:11:33 Adam Brazilians guys.

1:11:34 Adam Brazilians guys, and also I'm thinking like Eastern Bloc countries.

1:11:36 Adam Oh, Eastern Bloc. Yeah, just because something warm is coming out of somebody. They put a little vodka in it and drink it. Well, Eastern Bloc guys are scary. Now, not Jews, by the way, ironically. Here's guys, they'll eat cows' tongues and brains and all kinds of crazy liver-y giblets-y things, but they'll never get near this thing, which is a weird combination to me. But, yeah, I'd like to check the diet. You show me someone who lives off of papaya and jerk chick, and I'm going to show you someone who's not pulling the plug. But you show me a guy who lives off of parts, you know what I mean? Brains and tongues. Yeah, like a lot of haggis and tripe and that kind of stuff. I'll show you guys into it. Yeah, because in a way, that's just-

1:12:20 Adam More of the same.

1:12:21 Drew More of the same.

1:12:22 Adam Yeah, it's something and it's a little bloody and a little messy and the kind of stuff we hear about. Yeah, we take the sheep stomach and we mix it in with the eyeballs and you're like, Christ, that's the guy who's going to do it. All right. That's what I think. Justin?

1:12:39 Yes. Yes.

1:12:41 Adam What's up, Justin?

1:12:42 Adam It's compensation. Let me tell you something. The Jamaican guys are hung, too. They don't have to play that. You know what I mean? They don't need to go there.

1:12:48 Adam No, you're right.

1:12:49 Adam I'm just curious to how long it takes to recover from a massive stroke.

1:12:55 Adam What do you mean by a stroke?

1:12:58 Adam I had a major head injury in 97.

1:13:00 Adam 97. What happened? You had a stroke. Was your skull fractured? Or was your skull open?

1:13:07 Adam My skull was fractured. It did three brain surgeries on me.

1:13:11 Adam Three. We have a motorcycle accident or something?

1:13:15 Adam Got in a car with a drunk driver and did something to my seatbelt on.

1:13:20 Adam So this really isn't a stroke so much as a brain injury. Yeah, a brain injury. Right? Maybe you had a stroke too, complicating some of this.

1:13:28 Adam I had a massive blood clot on the right side of my brain.

1:13:30 Adam Okay. Well, that's not a stroke. That's bleeding probably.

1:13:34 Adam Caused by the curve, not a vessel breaking.

1:13:37 Adam Right. A stroke is usually thought of as a blood vessel clotting off and the brain tissue dying as a result of the blood supply being cut off. There's also something called intracranial bleed, which people think of as a stroke, but it really isn't. It's where blood breaks into the tissue of the brain. And in your case, there probably was two things. There's probably blood under the skull pushing on the brain, and probably like a bruise or blood within the brain tissue itself, both of which do cause brain damage. And so that's not really about recovering from a stroke so much as dealing with the stroke, dealing with the brain injury and learning to live with that.

1:14:12 Adam Well, what do you got? How's it manifesting itself?

1:14:15 Adam Well, what side of the brain was it on, left or right?

1:14:17 Adam Right.

1:14:19 Adam OK.

1:14:19 Adam So that does your left side, and what else does it do?

1:14:22 Adam Well, it causes something called anosognosia, which is a left-sided neglect. So you won't see or notice things on the left side. And if we asked him, say, to draw a clock, he'd only draw the right half of the clock. It's a very interesting syndrome. And can you have trouble moving your left arm and left leg?

1:14:37 Adam Most definitely. Yeah.

1:14:39 Adam And some emotional and social cues get kind of screwed up by that. And if you had to have one side of your brain, well, I know you want to get the right side because the left is where the speech is.

1:14:50 Adam Left is where the speech is.

1:14:51 Adam So Justin's got the speech going okay.

1:14:53 Adam All right. So Justin.

1:14:55 Adam I also have one other question, Doc.

1:14:56 Adam Yeah.

1:14:57 Adam Okay. Due to the fact that I crushed the right side of my face, I'm blind in my right eye now. Yeah. And is there any chance I could ever get vision back in that?

1:15:10 Adam No.

1:15:11 Adam No chance.

1:15:12 Adam That's a nice try.

1:15:14 Adam I got to answer a question. No. Once that is gone, that is gone.

1:15:17 Adam Oh, what about, you know, they're talking about like putting something in Stevie Wonder's head and stuff like that. Nothing? Cochlear? What do they call that?

1:15:27 Adam I would just, that's a cochlear implant. But except for the eye, they've got various kinds of little things they might be able to do. But that's, that's, you know, this is disruption of probably not only the track coming from the eye to the brain, but also probably the visual cortex was injured too.

1:15:41 Adam Well, what do you need? You don't need both. Sammy Davis Jr. only had one eye.

1:15:45 Adam Right.

1:15:45 Adam He's the hardest working man in show business.

1:15:47 Adam That's right.

1:15:51 Adam The eye thing you don't need.

1:15:52 Adam When I shared my eye socket, it put pressure on my optical nerve.

1:15:58 Adam It's the optic nerve. The optic nerve is gone.

1:16:01 Adam Are you able to work, Justin? No. What do you do all day?

1:16:09 Adam Basically, nothing.

1:16:12 Adam Do you want to do something?

1:16:14 Adam Like what?

1:16:15 Adam Well, I know it sounds like Pollyanna-ish. But I mean, if you can't work, how about working with other people and donating your time and doing that kind of thing?

1:16:28 Adam I do do some of that. I am part of the Every 15 Minutes program.

1:16:32 Adam That's good, because I'll tell you what, all of us, when we're looking for meaning in life, being of service tends to be the most commonly satisfying way to do that.

1:16:40 Adam Yeah.

1:16:41 Adam Yeah. When really people are trying to figure out what makes life meaningful, it's important relationships. And for many, that means being of service. And so if you can find a way to be of service, it will make meaning.

1:16:51 Adam Well, I agree with you.

1:16:52 Drew It will make life more fulfilling.

1:16:53 Adam It just makes meaning. Otherwise, what are we here for? What are we doing?

1:16:56 Adam Especially if, oh, anyway, I can tell you what I'm doing.

1:17:01 Adam You're masturbating and napping. I know, but...

1:17:02 Adam I'm not right now. I'm only masturbating. I'm not sleeping now. How dare you?

1:17:07 Adam You'll be taking your medicine soon.

1:17:09 Adam The point... No, here's the thing. You would, A, feel much... It's unbelievable how good you feel about yourself when you do do something nice. But the other thing is you would deal with people that are in far worse shape than you often times. And that puts things in the perspective. You gotta look at it this way and it's in your own weird way. I want to get too philosophical here. But in a way a guy like Justin feels robbed, there's quite a few people that you can make an argument, especially in different countries, that have it quite a bit worse than Justin. And for that matter, everyone over a certain age.

1:17:45 Adam Right, that's true.

1:17:46 Adam You don't even think about it. You go, well, he's lived a long life or she's lived a long life. But everyone's 75 plus is probably worse off in terms of their mobility, what they're able to do, their eyesight, speech, many things. Yeah.

1:18:00 Adam True.

1:18:01 Adam All right. I mean, here's-

1:18:01 Adam Ageing is devastating.

1:18:03 Adam Yeah. All right. Where were we? So, sorry. Ashley?

1:18:08 Yeah.

1:18:08 Adam You're 20?

1:18:10 Caller Yes.

1:18:10 Adam What's up?

1:18:11 Hi, how are you?

1:18:12 Adam Good.

1:18:14 Caller Okay.

1:18:15 Caller Do you want a quick version of it before we get into anything?

1:18:18 Adam Sure.

1:18:19 Caller All right.

1:18:20 Caller Okay. Basically, I don't get off during sex. Like, I have fun, but it doesn't do anything for me. Like, I don't get any reaction out of it.

1:18:30 Adam Do you have an orgasm with oral sex?

1:18:32 Caller No.

1:18:32 Adam So, you never have orgasm?

1:18:35 Caller Well, not with someone else.

1:18:36 Adam By yourself you do?

1:18:37 Adam By yourself.

1:18:38 Adam How come you don't do some of that when you're with somebody else?

1:18:41 Caller I don't know.

1:18:43 Adam This is where men and women differ.

1:18:46 Adam Yeah. Immediately.

1:18:48 Adam I mean, Adam, if you could get at his junk, but you can't get at it. You know what I mean? You're putting it, you know.

1:18:56 Adam Yeah. There's nothing left to grab onto. It's all gone. It's all used up. Yeah.

1:19:02 Drew His old roommate. Yeah.

1:19:05 Adam His old roommate. Yeah.

1:19:06 Adam That's the bottle brush.

1:19:07 Adam That's why I give him a reach around and help me a little bit. But here's the thing. Yeah. If a guy can have an orgasm alone, but he can't have one when he's with his partner, then he quickly incorporates whatever he's doing alone with his partner.

1:19:24 Adam Right.

1:19:24 Adam Almost immediately. For chicks, that kind of math doesn't work out.

1:19:28 Adam Yeah. They're like, I'm not interested in that.

1:19:31 Adam Well, it's either that or I've tried doing exactly what I do alone. Doesn't do anything.

1:19:36 Adam Yeah.

1:19:36 Adam Yeah. Oh, what is that?

1:19:37 Drew Or maybe he's the guy.

1:19:39 Adam Well, that's what she's going to lead into here, I think.

1:19:41 Adam Ashley. Hi.

1:19:43 Caller Sorry.

1:19:43 Adam Go ahead.

1:19:44 Caller Okay. Basically, what I'm calling for is, it's so hard. I know you guys are automatically going to pass, and that's fine, but I was friends with a guy. I wasn't attracted to him sexually at all, like nothing. It was one of the reasons I had to hang out, because I felt bad about not hanging out. I let him stay over because he had to go to class, and it was close. Anyway, and he stayed over. I fell asleep, and I woke up because I heard, at first, I heard the little noise when you take a picture with your phone. I woke up, but I didn't open my eyes. Then I felt him touching me. Anyway, it freaked me out, but I didn't say anything, and I don't know why I didn't, but I didn't say anything.

1:20:33 Adam All right. He just froze up. When you say touching you, what did he do?

1:20:39 Caller Well, first, it was like touching my chest, and then touching me other places.

1:20:46 Adam Did he rape you? Yeah. All right.

1:20:49 Caller No, no. He didn't have sex.

1:20:52 Adam Well, what made him stop?

1:20:54 Caller I don't know.

1:20:56 Adam What does this have to do with not orgasming?

1:20:58 Caller Because I orgasmed.

1:21:00 Adam While he was touching you?

1:21:04 Adam Are you a victim?

1:21:07 Caller I know if I report it, it would be, I can't do it.

1:21:10 Adam Hold on. In the past, had you been victimized?

1:21:13 Caller Yes, when I was younger.

1:21:15 Adam Well, there you go. That's it.

1:21:16 Caller This is the thing. I listen to your show a lot, and I know there's a lot of girls like, oh, well, really that makes a difference, and I understand that it does, but I'm a pretty smart person. I figure, I understand if I'm full, I don't see how it would relate now, because I'm aware I've already addressed issues.

1:21:32 Adam Yeah, but this takes place on a subconscious level.

1:21:35 Adam That's how your body is wired.

1:21:37 Adam Especially for women, because you guys are wired, you're not plumbed. We're plumbed. I got like three-quarter inch galvanized pipe just going right from my sack to my urethra and then back up to my head where my brain would have been. I mean, we just physically have plumbing. It's a mechanical thing. You guys have wiring. You're like a British sports car from the 50s. It goes wrong.

1:22:00 Adam It rains.

1:22:00 Adam It's no good after it rains. It's a mess, and all bets are off.

1:22:05 Adam Here's the thing. Put Ashley on again.

1:22:07 Adam You never know when you turn the key if you're going to get anything.

1:22:09 Adam And the thing is, Ashley, the thing that happens in the human that has not really been sorted out yet, why this occurs or precisely how it occurs, but experiences of terror become converted into arousal and attractions in adulthood.

1:22:25 Caller So it does seem very optimistic.

1:22:27 Adam No, you cannot do that a little bit with some very intensive work. But you got to realize that you're set up that way. I'm not saying you should go get victimized, but be careful that victimization is going to be highly arousing and attractive to you.

1:22:40 Adam Did somebody come into your room when you were a little girl?

1:22:44 Caller No, it was like babysitter's boyfriend.

1:22:46 Adam Doing exactly this.

1:22:48 Caller Pretty much, yeah.

1:22:49 Adam Yeah, same.

1:22:51 Caller But it's not like I don't try, like I'm not like really afraid.

1:22:56 Adam Hey Ashley, Ashley, it's not, it's not.

1:22:58 Caller I have fun and like, but I don't ever get off, ever.

1:23:01 Adam It's not an intellectual process. It's a very deep biological process. And so, you know, you have to have that sort of, find a way to get back in touch with all that.

1:23:10 Adam It's not that deep with me though.

1:23:12 Adam Well, you're plumped.

1:23:14 Adam No, I mean when I'm with them.

1:23:15 Adam Oh, they don't go over it deep. Yeah, I know.

1:23:18 Adam It's more of a superficial experience.

1:23:20 Adam Yeah, it's like a cut or something.

1:23:21 Adam Yeah, make it to the interleave every once in a while. Hey Ashley, get a little therapy for what happened at the hands of the boyfriend. Don't look at yourself as damaged good.

1:23:31 Adam And kind of work something out with a boyfriend. You know, work something out. You know what I mean? Just get a boyfriend.

1:23:36 Adam Pretend you're asleep?

1:23:37 Adam No, no, well, they could act those things out. Then maybe that will be something that will satisfy her.

1:23:41 Adam Okay, now what about that, Drew? This is the way she's wired now. Now, you know that she can get some therapy and she can make some inroads on this. But this is kind of the way she's wired. Maybe now's the time to role play.

1:23:58 Adam No, that's fine. There's nothing destructive about that.

1:24:00 Adam Is it just fine though in a way you're recreating a trauma?

1:24:04 Adam It's not just fine because it will bleed into other things and it will become bigger. If it's in the context of somebody who's really working on stuff and being managed in therapy and whatnot, it's probably fine.

1:24:15 Adam And with the guy, it's like, yeah, I'm going to pretend like I was asleep, and the guy's like, oh, I was going to do it when he fell asleep anyway. That's fine. I was just waiting for you to go to bed. Done and done.

1:24:28 Adam Or maybe that's the way they do it. There's some women that like literally waking up having sex. That lack of control, that feeling of powerlessness is arousing.

1:24:37 Adam Yeah. I've been with the ladies that were into that, but they never woke up. I was just like, I nailed you last night. Oh, really? Because I'm a light sleeper.

1:24:44 Adam I love that, but it's about I missed it.

1:24:46 Adam Yeah. Oh, no. There were other folks in the room, moved around in positions. You want to see the tape?

1:24:51 Drew That's a good little wake up call.

1:24:53 Adam By the way, this guy that asked you was extra creepy with the taking the camera picture. I mean, who knows where that's going to end up.

1:24:59 Adam The camera thing was a little weird, but yeah, and here's the thing about guys. Guys are great too. It's like, oh no, we're just friends. Now I got a class nearby. I'm just going to crash out.

1:25:12 Adam He knew that she was that kind of a victim, and he knew he could get away with this. It's interesting that he ended up doing exactly the victimization that she had done as a child. Isn't that what's fascinating? Well, she found the right guy to do the act.

1:25:24 Adam Here's an interesting thing that we get into on occasion quite a bit on this show, but I don't hear it's spoken about outside of this studio. Because it's not really science, but what you know and what your brain knows and makes you do. I mean, here's the thing. There's what you know on a cognitive level. True. This girl's good-looking or her apartment looks like this or sofa smells like that, but then there's what your brain starts telling you what to do on a certain level. Now, this guy probably clued into all kinds of tells, for lack of a better term.

1:26:02 Adam Didn't know that's what he was clued into.

1:26:03 Adam He didn't even know that's what he was clued into.

1:26:05 Adam He just was attracted.

1:26:06 Adam But his brain, because it had been on the planet for 20 years and looked around a little and been with other victims, was doing, your brain is constantly profiling, trying to figure things out, and his brain said, go with this chick, wait till she falls asleep. Because that wouldn't work with anybody else. Most chicks you'd start feeling around.

1:26:27 Drew She's probably thinking she's going to wake up, get aroused, and they're going to have sex with him.

1:26:30 Adam But why does he take the chance?

1:26:32 Adam He knew he could get away with it. Yeah, with this one. Something told him this is the one.

1:26:37 Drew Because there's certain people who will just like, you know, some guy will grab him and they'll laugh it off.

1:26:41 Adam They'll freeze up. Right.

1:26:42 Adam They'll freeze. She has the freeze reaction, which is that victimization thing.

1:26:46 Adam How do the victimizers know the victims?

1:26:49 Adam How do they know?

1:26:49 Adam And that's that brain profiling and not even letting us know about it.

1:26:54 Adam Interesting enough, those guys tend to be on the sociopathic tendency. And how they know, they just do.

1:26:59 Adam People argue that those guys just go around and try to feel up everybody, but their batting average is much higher than that because they'd be in jail otherwise.

1:27:07 Adam Right, true.

1:27:08 Adam All right, let's take a lot of agreement going on. Heavy, heavy. And a lot of yes and and not only that, but...

1:27:16 Adam Not only that, but sexual secrets and sexual fears or aversions I'm still looking for.

1:27:20 Adam Roger Cross from 24InStudio tonight. Take a quick break. Be right back after this.

1:27:28 Caller Hello.

1:27:29 This is Loveline.

1:27:30 Caller 1-800-LOVE-191.

1:27:50 Adam Hey, everybody. It's the Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, Roger Cross here tonight. He is from 24 Fox, Monday nights, 9 o'clock. Drew decided he liked Roger. I concurred while Roger was in the bathroom.

1:28:06 Drew Well, thank you, fellas.

1:28:07 Adam And even with the detour, he made it here before the mics heated up. Remarkable.

1:28:11 Adam Total pro. He's a pilot. He's got to arrive on time.

1:28:15 Drew There you go.

1:28:16 Adam And a good guy, because we're dogs. We just sniff you and decide whether we like you or not. Roger's a smart guy, good guy.

1:28:25 Drew Thanks, fellas.

1:28:26 Adam You got a good energy to him. I don't know what it is. I think it's all the agreeing with me. That's all it takes.

1:28:33 Adam Three. Three? All right, here we go.

1:28:37 Adam No, we want to talk to the three. Yeah, you're right. Joe. Yeah. 28, you have a surveillance job at a casino.

1:28:45 Roger Cross Yeah.

1:28:47 Adam What does that mean?

1:28:48 Adam Sit in one of those rooms with all the cameras, right?

1:28:51 Yeah. Basically, I sit here and I watch and I make sure nothing goes south.

1:28:55 Adam What are the top three things you're looking for when people are gaming, when they're playing? I don't know. What are they playing where you are, what you're looking at?

1:29:04 All sorts of card games.

1:29:05 Adam Card games.

1:29:06 Spanish, some poker.

1:29:08 Adam Spanish.

1:29:08 Adam What do you, I don't know what that is. What is Spanish?

1:29:14 Sorry, I'm at work right now, actually.

1:29:15 Adam All right.

1:29:18 Drew Busy talking to us.

1:29:19 Adam James Kahn walk in.

1:29:23 Adam What are you looking for or can you tell us what the tells are?

1:29:27 I can't tell you too much, but what I will tell you is that I'm not just looking for the players cheating. I'm looking for dealers that have to deal a certain way. They have to spit the cards out in a certain way. They have to touch the chips in a certain way.

1:29:39 Adam That's a very valid point because you got these guys that blow into town, whether it's Nevada or wherever the Indian casinos are. They're dicey guys. They're dealing cards. They're making 18 bucks an hour with some tips. They could easily, they're the guys. Yeah.

1:29:55 Adam Or they make mistakes with the chips and stuff.

1:29:58 Adam Yeah.

1:30:00 Drew That happened then.

1:30:00 After paying out some players, they clear their hands, stuff like that. I'm watching to make sure that the employees are actually following procedural stuff.

1:30:09 Adam I just wish we could enact a standard procedure for everything because you sit at one casino for a day playing, and then you go to another casino and you're like, hit me, and you're like, sure, don't pick up the cards. And you're like, over the dunes, you got the, no, no, put the cards down and tap the cards and put a number two pencil in your ass. That's how we do it. And I'm like, well, over at the Hard Rock, you scrape the cards, but no, no, don't put sir cards down.

1:30:36 Adam And then they're mad and won't talk to you. I don't care about the Hard Rock.

1:30:39 Adam You got the evil Vietnamese chicks giving you the stink eye the whole time because you had the temerity to pick the cards up because you're drunk.

1:30:46 Adam He's watching that right now?

1:30:48 Adam Yeah. I'm just saying, let's go ahead and establish one protocol for this and I'll learn it and that'll be it. I'll never get yelled at again at the casino.

1:30:57 Adam All right.

1:30:57 Adam So anyway, Joe, you're now getting a, becoming enamored with the voyeuristic tendencies.

1:31:06 Yeah. Not by choice, I'll tell you. If I sit here and I got to watch all these people that I'm really not supposed to interact with in any other way and I've noticed it bleeding into my personal life and it's kind of bothering me.

1:31:17 Adam Give me specifically what's happening.

1:31:19 You know, I'll walk down the street and I'll find myself, you know, peeking in people's windows. I'll be out of my balcony smoking a cigarette, you know, and I'll just gravitate towards watching what people are doing, you know.

1:31:32 Adam That's all right. It's your skill. It's your discipline.

1:31:37 Adam Yeah. It's like when Drew used to be in the gay porn field. He just, you don't, you never, you don't punch out, so to speak.

1:31:45 Adam You start, you start, you start, you start, you start diagnosing stuff in the gay porn. As you talk to people.

1:31:49 Adam Yeah, you can't, well, you, you feel bad. What about us? Everyone I talk to, I have to psychoanalyze and decide that their dads abuse them. Yeah.

1:31:59 Adam It's all right, Joe, as long as you're not actually, Yeah, you're fine. Lurking outside the shower, you know.

1:32:04 Adam I would, I would start falling in, in love with people. I'd be up there and be some hot chick, sit down.

1:32:10 Adam You want to follow around.

1:32:11 Adam I'd be creating elaborate fantasies around there.

1:32:13 Adam You're doing your job.

1:32:15 Adam Then it turns into an episode of Vegas. See her walking out at night to the parking car, to the car. Remember everything in the 70s took place in the car? Out in the parking structure at night, chick walking out the car, weird ominous music. She's looking over her shoulder. We got to take a break, but let me just tell you this. I watched a lot of 80s movies over the weekend. Here's what I realized. We loved the Uzi back then. This is the machine gun just to blow up. Every guy who got shot, every bad guy gets shot while he had the submachine gun, turns in the air and sprays it.

1:32:50 Drew That's true.

1:32:50 Adam He sprays in the air.

1:32:51 Drew I was just going down. I was like, brrr.

1:32:52 Adam Yeah. Somebody decided that this is what happens when guys got shot. Now, it never happens when you have a pistol. You don't squeeze off 30 rounds. But if you have an Uzi, you go in the air and you spray it all over the place. This went on for about four years and now we're off it. But from 1987 to 1991, every guy who had an automatic machine gun who got shot just sprays 300 rounds in the air. Violently sprays. It's like, aren't you dead? What's going on? Let's take a break. We'll be back after this. All right, guys.

1:33:22 Caller Here's the deal. Looking to hook up, call the Dateline.

1:33:44 Adam That's true.

1:33:45 Adam Crazy.

1:33:46 Adam Why not? You fly there in an hour and 40 minutes or something.

1:33:49 Roger Cross Tomorrow night, 9 o'clock, right, guys?

1:33:51 Adam 9 o'clock? Yeah.

1:33:53 Drew 2, 1, go!

1:33:55 Adam Well, that's it, everybody. Where'd the time go? A positively riveting two hours with Roger Cross from 24.

1:34:05 Adam And the movie.

1:34:06 Adam And the movie, King's Ransom. Roger.

1:34:10 Drew Yes.

1:34:10 Adam Great delight. Glad to meet you, buddy.

1:34:13 Drew Thanks for having me, Phyllis.

1:34:13 Adam Don't be a stranger.

1:34:14 Adam Don't be a stranger.

1:34:15 Drew Won't be. It was a pleasure.

1:34:17 Adam We'll take a little extendo break, and until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:34:25 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station.

1:34:37 Adam The producer for Loveline is Aningold.

1:34:39 Caller Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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