Episode 1000683594341

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1:08 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Listener discretion is advised. This is Loveline. With Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

1:21 Voiceover Yes, indeed, it's Loveline. The phone number here 1-800-LOVE-191. Boy, that music turned down nicely and quickly. I'm here in Los Angeles. Adam, are you there?

1:30 Adam Yes, I is.

1:31 Drew Adam, can you hear me?

1:32 Adam Oh, no.

1:33 Drew Nice. Oh, yes. I'll break into song here.

1:36 Adam Can you hear me, Drew?

1:38 Drew Yeah, loud and clear. Loud and clear.

1:39 Adam Oh, good. Good. Is Jeff there?

1:41 Drew Jeff Probst is here.

1:42 Jeff Probst I am here and I brought a special guest for you, AC., Miss Julie Berry from the Survivor Vanuatu season because I thought you might want a little perspective from an actual survivor rather than me by yourself. Telling you what I think.

1:58 Drew Just him blasting the survivor participants without them being present.

2:02 Adam Well, thank you and welcome to the show, Julie.

2:05 Howdy.

2:07 Adam Good. I was going to say good to see you, but good to hear you.

2:11 Drew I thought you were going to be here tonight.

2:13 Adam Well, I thought I was too, but I got out of work too late. I got to stay here one more night. So unfortunately, I'll be in Charlotte for one more night. But we'll see if we can do this as seamlessly as possible.

2:27 Drew Anything weird happen?

2:29 Adam No, nothing weird happen. Just, you know, a lot of crappy hard work as usual. I'm I don't want to cry. I'm being well compensated. I do. I do want to kiss a little survivor ass, though. Let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah, because that's my thing. We have we have a unspoken agreement, Jeff and I. He comes on the show once a year. I kiss two hours of ass and then he leaves.

2:58 Drew That's why he comes back.

2:59 Adam Yeah. Well, listen, I love I love the show. I I saw last week, I saw the first installment last week. And I have a few questions. I like, by the way, I like the idea of you tossing somebody immediately at the top. It made it, you know, it brought that sort of intrigue that you usually have to wait for the end of the show for at the beginning of the show. But I don't know that much about the location, although I did see a lot of great underwater shots of wrecked World War II Japanese aircraft and allied aircraft and boats and that kind of stuff. So can you tell us about the location? Yeah.

3:38 Jeff Probst Well, Palau is off the coast of Guam and there's an area out there, Peleliu, that was a big World War II battle spot. And that's what it's probably most known for historically. And you will see it throughout the season. There are Japanese Zero airplanes all over the place. These huge ships, 20 or 30 feet under water, tanks in the middle of the jungle, blown out fortresses where people were barricaded. And I think for a long time, a lot of the survivors thought it was set dressing, that we were trying to make it look sort of warlike. It's a real deal. And that's one element. The other element is it's a premier diving spot.

4:18 Drew It's a sea life. Yeah, that's what it's known for now, is the absolutely, the pinnacle.

4:22 Jeff Probst Incredible.

4:23 Drew Of scuba diving.

4:24 Jeff Probst Yeah, incredible.

4:25 Adam It is as exotic a location as you guys have ever been to and you've been to many exotic locations, but at least visually, it's incredible. I don't know what it's like as far as being there. I imagine it's stunning.

4:41 Jeff Probst It is.

4:41 Drew It's stunning, but it's not as remote as some of the things you've done.

4:43 Jeff Probst No, it's not as remote. What we're learning is, well, one, there are very few remote, uninhabited places on the planet. But what we've learned is, you can go to a place like Palau, which has a city and has a lot of tourists coming in to scuba dive. But we go out and rent or buy for a period of time these islands that nobody can get to, and we section them off. And it is remote. As far as the survivors are concerned, there ain't nobody out there. But I'm happy to hear, I've been hearing a lot this week about people noticing the beauty of the location, and you sometimes wonder if it's going to come through. And it's going to be good. This season is going to be good. Huge characters.

5:25 Drew Right.

5:25 Jeff Probst Great.

5:26 Drew All right.

5:26 Adam So now, Drew's favorite.

5:28 Drew I'm just thinking more pathology. Fantastic. I can sit there and cringing to go, where's my...

5:31 Jeff Probst You know what, though? It's not necessarily crazy people this time in terms of like off the top, over the top characters.

5:39 Drew I suppose the Julie and her clan. Yeah.

5:41 Jeff Probst Well, yeah.

5:42 Drew The real nutjobs.

5:43 We were really balanced.

5:44 Jeff Probst But one thing this season had going in with these people is the whole notion of integrity, which always comes up. But usually it's forget integrity. I'll lie, I'll cheat, I'll do whatever it takes. We have three or four people who came in really strong saying, I'm going to show you how to play this game with integrity and you watch, I'm not going to cave. And so it's almost has a positive challenge to it. Do you think you can beat me? Because if I find a couple other people who are going to play by the rules, we will kick your ass.

6:14 Adam Interesting. So Jeff, you're at the point right now where it's in the can, it's done, but you haven't done, I mean, on your schedule, obviously, us civilians have to watch for the next upcoming, how many episodes, by the way, before we get to the big unveil? We have to watch, I don't mean have to, like we're getting our teeth cleaned. We're allowed the privilege of watching the next 14 episodes before the big unveiling. You obviously know what went on up until that point, but you don't know what went on on the big unveiling because you haven't had it yet. Is this correct?

6:55 Drew That's live, right? The big unveiling.

6:57 Jeff Probst And what we do is we, as Julie can tell you, because she made it really deep in the show, they cast their votes, but it's a blind vote. We take all the cameramen away, we put the cameras up, we make sure they're working, we run audio tape, and then there's nobody there. So they walk up at the final vote and usually there's a cameraman there. There's nobody there. There are three cameras, one overhead and two in front of them, and they're looking at this little red dot giving their speech. Then we lock those votes in a little container. Somebody comes out, checks tape, checks audio tape, and boom, I take off with them, give them to a CBS exec, and we get back to the US. So I'm sure somebody looks at them, but I don't. I never have.

7:37 Adam So you know the final two, but you don't know the winner, obviously.

7:42 Jeff Probst Exactly.

7:43 Adam Oh, I'll tell you, I've not seen a bad season yet. The format is such that it's always intriguing. There are good episodes and there are great episodes, but there are no duds in there. And I'm starting to think from watching The Apprentice, which I now really enjoy, that Mark Burnett is a genius.

8:04 Drew Yes, I agree.

8:06 Jeff Probst Burnett is a great storyteller. You know, he's a fantastic business man and, you know, legendarily probably brutal at it. But what I think gets lost sometimes is he's a good storyteller. He didn't stumble on to some franchise called Survivor and buy it. He built this. He took a small idea and expanded it into a huge idea. Built the team, built the storytelling methods and hired really good people as producers and technical operators to keep it going. And, you know, I've seen an episode of The Contender. It's really good. I mean, Burnett is good.

8:43 Adam Well, yeah, I mean, and this is the thing I think everyone should, you know, take note of is it's not about the idea or even the cast. It's really about the execution of the idea.

8:54 Jeff Probst Yes.

8:54 Adam And I'm sure The Contender will be great based on Survivor and based on The Apprentice. And all three of them seem like a franchise that could just keep going in perpetuity.

9:06 Jeff Probst You know, you just said something that nobody has ever brought up. And I'm always talking to my buddies about the execution because it's the same with your guys show. You take this concept of having a doctor and a comedian who's sharp and funny and OK, that sounds great. Who are the people? And it's the same with Survivor. I see bad reality shows and I think, wow, think if those guys had got the rights to Survivor, what would have happened to it? Because it's a far cry from saying 16 people deserted. And then it's a hole. And so much of what the Burnett team does is not visible to the viewer. It's the execution that makes it work.

9:47 Adam Most the ideas for, you know, whether it be reality show or not, if you just described them on a small, you know, put them down on a piece of paper, put them in a hat and included Survivor and the Contender and the Apprentice in there, it wouldn't look any different from the next one. If you just sort of pulled them out.

10:06 Drew The all time example of execution making the show, something called the man show.

10:11 Adam Yeah. Yep.

10:14 Drew The people that are executing it moved on. And the show went away. Another group of tried died executed. Aren't you glad I said that and not you?

10:21 Adam I know. I know. I was just, I was, I was screaming it, but my mouth wasn't opening.

10:26 Drew I could hear it. I could hear it all the way over here.

10:28 Adam No, it never, it, you know what? It never even scurried through my mind, but God bless you for bringing it up. And thank you for backing them up, Jeff.

10:38 Jeff Probst You know another, well, it's, it's-

10:39 Drew Setting me up too, by the way.

10:41 Jeff Probst Another thing about Survivor is that the casting for all of the other shows that are under either CBS or the Burnett Regime, the creme de la creme come to Survivor. So if somebody applies, people may not want to hear this or know this, but the truth is you apply for Amazing Race, and our same casting director does that show. If she thinks you're really great, she basically bumps you up to Survivor.

11:09 So we get, yeah, we get the best people.

11:13 Jeff Probst And, you know, it's not that you're a certain aptitude or a certain intelligence, it's that you're the right fit for Survivor. You know how to deliver, you know how to tell a story, you're going to be compelling, and anyway. What I'm laughing at is last time we did this, Drew was on location, you were here, and you kept saying, he wants to go to a call. Drew's itching to go to a call. I'm not going to go to a call. And you kept putting him, now Drew's in control, and you're sitting in a motel somewhere.

11:38 Drew That's right, we're going to calls.

11:39 Adam And how dare you motel? It's a motor lodge. It's a totally different animal, Jeff. You're used to sleeping on a tent in some beach somewhere. How dare you? I have a Murphy bed.

11:54 Jeff Probst Nice.

11:55 Adam Yeah.

11:56 Jeff Probst We just got back from Maine and we did a little snowboard and we had a Murphy bed up there. Those are kind of, kind of quaint.

12:01 Drew Julie's from Maine.

12:02 Jeff Probst Yeah.

12:04 Adam When you say we, do you mean you and Julie?

12:07 Drew Of course.

12:07 Jeff Probst Yes.

12:08 Adam Oh, okay.

12:08 Jeff Probst All right. Well, I finally done what you're supposed to do is, you know.

12:13 Drew Hook up with somebody on the show.

12:14 Jeff Probst Yeah. It's an office romance that I hope never ever ends.

12:19 Adam Did you, I feel the same way about Drew actually. Do you?

12:24 Drew I had my behind man until Adam.

12:26 Adam That's right. I broke his behind man one night on the road many years ago.

12:31 Jeff Probst It'll happen.

12:33 Adam So you can break your behind man snowboarding too by the way.

12:36 Drew And riding horses. Yes. Sure.

12:38 Adam Yeah.

12:38 Jeff Probst What about Saddle Ranch? That bull, that mechanical absolutely.

12:42 Drew That'll do it. Now, they're nearly broke by behind in that way. Well, it wasn't until I climbed on the back that it's actually broken.

12:48 Adam So they're great bulls on the circuit called the behind man. There's the Widowmaker and the behind man.

12:53 Jeff Probst But you don't want to draw him.

12:56 Adam No, that's a bad draw. No one's gone seven on the behind man buster. All right. Wouldn't that be weird? Like, it'd be a weird thing to do with a bull. Like, well, he bucks pretty good. He's fairly ferocious, but gayer than all Perry.

13:12 Caller He'll buster.

13:14 Adam Yeah, if he takes you down, he's going to he's getting on top of you. It'd be a weird thing to just put in your mind before they let you out of the stall.

13:22 Jeff Probst Yeah. Yeah. And you know, some of those bulls got to be gay.

13:25 Adam They got to be gay.

13:27 Jeff Probst Yeah.

13:27 Adam Jeff, so insightful.

13:29 Jeff Probst Thank you.

13:30 Adam You know, those bulls are gay. Hey, well, let me ask one more quick question before before we go to we go to the phones. So, Jeff, you obviously met Julie, you know, during the the taping, but nothing went on during the taping, right?

13:49 Oh, well, I mean, that's the party line. It's not possible, but it's impossible.

13:54 Drew Yeah. Yeah, sure.

13:55 Jeff Probst But we'll know what go with it.

13:58 Survivors only see Jeff when you guys see him on TV and you're not focused on him at all. Well, I think I'm trying to win a million dollars.

14:06 Jeff Probst I think there is a perception that when the cameras are when you're when I'm not there, that I'm still there, that I go to the beach and hang out. You know, my name and that's not you. I'm there every time I'm with them is what's on the show.

14:18 Drew And your film, your camera's rolling every time you're with them.

14:22 Jeff Probst The yes, exactly. Yes. And it makes the show.

14:26 Adam But what I'm what I'm getting at is, Jeff, obviously, you were able to sort of focus on Julie because you're looking at dailies and things like that, right?

14:37 Jeff Probst Well, I really don't look at tape tape either. To be to tell you, here's what really happened.

14:41 Drew This particular tribe.

14:43 Jeff Probst Yeah, I mean, sure.

14:44 Caller I had to check in occasionally.

14:45 Adam How did it work?

14:46 Jeff Probst Well, we met at casting and and we didn't have a very good meeting, you know. She, the interrogation, I think you and I probably talked about it on here, but it's pretty severe. And and a Drew was just saying he was talking with our psychologist about the psych profile. There's also the the mental interrogation of people coming into a room with Burnett and me and some of our other EPs. And and when Julie came in, she had just just recently found her biological sister. They were separated as kids and she was adopted.

15:19 And this just being adopted and separated.

15:22 Drew And you were adopted, too.

15:23 Yeah. And we both got adopted into a family then when I was five and she was four.

15:28 Drew What happened?

15:30 Just it wasn't a safe environment for me.

15:31 Drew And I got taken out and ended up on the you're American Indian.

15:36 Correct.

15:36 Drew We raised on a reserve or something.

15:38 No, just a family wasn't safe. Yeah.

15:42 Adam And so so you were taken away and your sister was taken away.

15:45 No, she she stayed with that family and I ended up moving to Maine and living with the Barrys, who my family is. Yeah.

15:53 Adam And so yeah, that must have been traumatizing, by the way.

15:56 Yeah, it was a dramatic event in my life. And I had just found Leah and and then I had gone to my interview and this it's all intense. And and Jeff is just a tough guy to you know, when he knows what he wants and he's obviously directing something at somebody. I was intimidated and I got emotional because this was a big event in my life. And I walked out of the casting room pissed.

16:18 Jeff Probst Yeah, it was it. Well, you know, people give you a lot of stuff that isn't true. And you're trying to break through and figure out what's really truthful. And and and a third of the people come in and they have some dramatic story.

16:31 Drew I hate to say it. You need me in that room.

16:33 Yeah.

16:34 Jeff Probst You know what comes to seriously?

16:36 Drew I would love to be so much fun. You would love because I have the car neck ability. Really?

16:41 Jeff Probst See, I don't.

16:42 Drew So I could ask you to tell you the question, Jeff.

16:46 Jeff Probst Jeff, she's for real. You know, back off.

16:47 Drew Julie, you'll date her one day. I know it's in the profile. This is for you.

16:52 Jeff Probst I could have used you because it you know, she got into this and we kind of hit on a tough subject and I said, I don't buy it at all. I think you're what I think is really happening is you're frustrated that Burnett's on his palm pilot. We're not paying enough attention. And she looked at me like, well, you know what? You don't know what time it is. But she was clearly upset and she walked out. But as she walked out, I did say completely uncharacteristic of me. I said, I love you.

17:15 Drew Date me soon. Let me have your number.

17:17 Jeff Probst We'll be in touch. But no, I did notice, you know, I did. She did make a connection. But on the show there was we flirted, but you flirt with lots of, of course, of course. No, I mean, on Survivor, you give back what they're giving you because it's a mental game and I'm just another obstacle. If you're going to be mean to me, I'll be mean to you because that's the game you're playing.

17:39 Drew Part of the game.

17:39 Jeff Probst Yeah. Nothing was happening on the show. But after the show, you know, there was a connection and I did pursue it.

17:45 Drew Julie, where was your family of origin from?

17:47 Maine.

17:48 Drew That's your, your current family, your family of origin.

17:51 Yeah, I was born in Maine, ended up moving down to Connecticut and then got readopted by a family in Maine again.

17:56 Drew Oh, interesting.

17:57 Yeah.

17:58 Adam How did you find, how did you find your sister, your biological sister?

18:02 Tenacity.

18:03 Drew Well, you were going after it for a while. Oh my goodness.

18:06 Adam It's a horrible name, by the way. Sounds like she's black or something.

18:11 Jeff Probst Black stripper.

18:12 Adam Yeah. But anyway, how did you find tenacity? No, you just, you just pers, you just kept pursuing it.

18:18 Internet.

18:20 Adam Was she looking for you?

18:21 No, not at all.

18:23 Drew What is she doing now?

18:23 She grew up very different than I did. What, what? She just, her family was rougher and she didn't have the support and she ended up leaving at an earlier age and so she's been very independent.

18:33 Drew Getting pregnant?

18:34 No.

18:35 Drew No.

18:35 No.

18:36 Drew That's just, that's usually the story, that's usually what goes.

18:38 No, no, not at all.

18:40 Jeff Probst She's a sharp, we've, we've met, I mean, I've met her and been around her. She's, the similarities are amazing considering they spent basically no time other than their first couple of years together.

18:49 Drew Is she younger or older?

18:50 She's 15 months younger than me.

18:51 Drew Younger.

18:52 Yeah.

18:52 Adam So, so how old are you now, Julie, if you don't mind me asking?

18:56 24.

18:57 Adam So you hadn't seen her in almost, well, this was a while ago. So it had been like 17, 18 years since you'd seen her?

19:03 Correct. Yeah. Long time. But I instantly connected with her, fell in love with her right away, and there was an undeniable chemistry between us.

19:10 Drew You continue to have contact with her?

19:12 Yeah, I do. She came to the finale and yeah, I wish she was closer so I could spend more time.

19:17 Drew Wow.

19:18 Wow.

19:18 Adam You know, I guess that's good cause you know there's that weird thing, I mean, I don't haven't done it with a sibling, but sometimes you hook up with that person you haven't seen since junior high or something. And then you realize ten minutes into your conversation, you really don't care if you see the person again. But the entire conversation is about getting together again. But you realize you just don't want to see them and they're like, oh, yeah, no, we got to yeah. And you're like, no, we don't, we don't, we don't.

19:45 Jeff Probst You're already thinking of how you're going to get out of what you're currently planning.

19:49 Adam Right. Right.

19:51 Caller It's so funny to be planning.

19:53 Adam I just wonder, percentage wise, like when you're on your deathbed, how how many what percentage of plans you were trying to get out of while currently making? In Los Angeles.

20:06 Jeff Probst Yeah, it's every day.

20:07 Adam Yeah. We got to do lunch. You're right.

20:10 Caller We got to do that.

20:11 Adam That's going to be awesome. We'll go to the day spa. It's going to be awesome. We got to get to the track, bro.

20:18 Jeff Probst Yeah, but the good thing about Los Angeles is it's so easy to break it because the other person wants to break it, too. So all you have to do is e-mail. You don't even have to talk to him. Hey, sorry, something came up. We'll reschedule next week. It's all good.

20:31 Adam Oh, and, you know, the good thing about being Jeff Probst is you always I mean, you got to get on a helicopter and repel. Exactly. Or a volcano. You know, it's like with me, it's like, well, I only beat off twice this week and I'm kind of behind. It's a totally different set of rules. Yeah. All right. Let's take some calls, Drew. What time is it? What's going on?

20:54 Drew It's 1020, but let's take a call. How about that?

20:57 Adam Let's take a call.

20:57 Jeff Probst I love this.

20:58 Drew All right. This is Dorothy, 17.

21:01 Hey, yeah.

21:03 My question, like I said, it's more of a statement. I have been sexually active for like three years, almost four years. And just recently, I just haven't been able to get into it anymore.

21:20 Drew By sexually active, you mean you've been having sex since you were 13?

21:24 14.

21:25 I'm almost 18.

21:27 Adam Yeah. All right. And suddenly, you have a boyfriend?

21:31 No, not anymore.

21:33 Drew Does that have anything to do with why you shut down?

21:36 No, because he and I actually broke up a really long time ago, like two years ago, but we were still hooking up and stuff like that.

21:46 Drew Uh-oh. So the story, Dorothy, does not sound great. You start at 14, you have a guy you're intensely involved with, you break up and you keep having sex with him, now you're kind of shut down. Are you on any medication?

21:59 Um, yeah.

22:00 Drew What are you taking?

22:01 I'm on Zoloft and Wilfutrin and I'm taking birth control.

22:06 Drew Okay. Well, Zoloft will shut you down pretty good. Really? Absolutely. That just takes your sex drive away. Some people really shuts it down.

22:15 Adam Why are you on birth control if you don't have a boyfriend?

22:19 I started on birth control when I first started having sex because I was pregnant and my parents didn't like it so.

22:29 Drew Did you have an abortion?

22:31 No, I actually had a miscarriage and then they put me on birth control right away.

22:35 Good times.

22:36 Adam Dorothy 17?

22:38 Drew Yeah.

22:39 Adam Dorothy is the name of a 77-year-old.

22:42 Yeah.

22:42 Adam How do you get that name?

22:45 Drew She's had the life of a 40-year-old too.

22:47 Adam That's true, but Agnes is a younger sounding name.

22:50 Oh, I was named after my grandmother, actually.

22:54 Drew And I'm picking up a little pot laugh going on there, Dorothy. You smoking a lot of pot?

22:57 No, no, no.

22:58 Drew No?

22:59 No.

23:01 Adam All right. Well, Dorothy, it sounds like you've got a lot of living in in a pretty short period of time. And here's the thing. Here's the thing about this show. Everyone calls in, asks a question, and then we never answer it because to us, it takes a distant backseat to what the real issues are.

23:20 Drew Right.

23:20 Adam And the real issues are you've been sexually active for three years and you're still in high school. There's you've been pregnant already. There's a ton of chaos, chaos going on here. And it seems like the sexual part is the least your worries. As a matter of fact, it's good for you and for society that you're not particularly horny at this stage of the game.

23:41 Drew Yes, yes, absolutely. Do not stop your medication. Plus, a doctor would not have put you on these medications casually. You must have really needed them. Have you tried hurting yourself or anything like that?

23:52 Yeah, I was in an institute for a while.

23:54 Drew Okay. So you've tried to kill yourself. You have a potentially fatal condition. It is successfully treated. And as a side effect of that, it's also controlling some of your acting out behavior. So just sit tight, sit tight, follow the direction. Just take it easy. It's all good.

24:08 Adam That's right. That's right. Put that vagina up on top of the refrigerator.

24:13 Drew Where the cat can't get to it.

24:15 Adam Or under. Yeah, or under. And just let it get a little dust on it.

24:18 Drew Yeah.

24:18 Adam No big deal.

24:19 Drew Absolutely.

24:20 Adam God knows I went without it.

24:22 Drew What about her vagina or a vagina? Yes, Adam.

24:24 Adam Any vagina and a behind man. Here's a, what does it say her problem is on the screen?

24:32 Drew Loses sex drive while making out. Used to be into it. Why?

24:36 Adam Okay. Cause I'm going to pay you a compliment because usually I'm sitting there next to you and I'm reading the screen often times. And it doesn't feel the same. When I'm over here and out of the studio and I hear you say things like, well, the doctor wouldn't have put you on these medications if you hadn't tried something serious, you know, if you ever tried, had a suicide attempt. And they say, yes, it sounds like it's pre-screened. And you know the answer. And it's a Dr. Phil kind of thing.

25:06 Drew Right, right.

25:06 Adam You know what I mean?

25:07 Drew Yes, yes.

25:08 Adam It's really impressive when you're not in the studio and you realize that it's not on the screen. No one told you there was a suicide attempt, yet you sussed it out.

25:18 Jeff Probst And that's what makes me uncomfortable sitting here, is that I know everything I say.

25:22 Drew Don't worry, Jeff, I don't know you long enough to say something out now. You don't have to say anymore, Jeff. We've already got you figured out. Just relax. It's all done.

25:28 Jeff Probst It's toast.

25:29 Drew But Adam, you're right. I have a warm feeling and a glow, and suddenly I feel really kind of glad, wouldn't be the right word, privileged that I lost my behemoth to you.

25:40 Adam I'll tell you, but thank you, Drew. It means a lot to me. And but before we go to break, I just want to say, Jeff, you and Julie are so lucky that I'm not in town because usually when we're done with the show, Drew and I immediately get on each other cell phones and gossip about the guest. And we would have a field day with you two in this relationship.

26:00 Jeff Probst Gossip on air, buddy. Gossip on air.

26:02 Adam I don't know. It's so funny.

26:05 Jeff Probst I can't wait to hear it.

26:06 Adam No, I can't because I know, Jeff, I know oftentimes you're stoned when you come in the studio and I don't want to freak you out.

26:14 Drew All right. Let's do some break. Let's do it.

26:15 Adam Let's take a break.

26:17 Drew All right. This is Loveline. The phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191. Jeff Probst is our honored guest tonight and his lovely companion, Julie Berry will be right back. Welcome back to Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-E-191, Jeff Probst, Julie Berry, and don't forget to listen to Loveline all next week when we're giving away an iPod Shuffle. At the beginning of each show, we will give you all the details and tell you what to listen for so you can win one of these amazing little technological instruments. I still think they are the greatest thing.

27:08 Adam They are, they are until somebody gets one of them caught in a washing machine and it pulls their head off.

27:16 Drew Yeah, I would say that's true of anything that has a headset on it. If it gets caught in an axle of your car, it's not a good idea.

27:24 Caller Well, no, no, not the headset.

27:26 Adam The thing hangs around your neck like a bowl out tie. And I'm just worried that that lanyard's going to get caught on something and that's where they're going to find me. You know what I'm saying?

27:39 Drew Because you never take yours off anymore.

27:41 Adam And you know what? You know the sad part is it'll probably be mistaken for one of those auto erotic asphyxiation things.

27:48 Drew Not mistaken, Mr. Corolla, not mistaken.

27:50 Jeff Probst We'll make sure.

27:52 Adam What'll happen is is coincidentally I was masturbating while wearing the iPod shuffle when the thing got caught in the garage door opener.

28:01 Drew Just paying the odds of the probability of going across any given day, if you get tangled up in this washing machine, what's the probability of you masturbating at the same time?

28:09 Adam Well, pretty decent, but it wasn't the auto erotic type. You know, it wasn't the fixation type.

28:15 Drew What do you care? Your hand's still stuck to your junk. And, you know, it's tough.

28:18 Adam All right, Drew, I'm just saying I'm going to need a little fudge on the official cause of death from you, buddy. That's all.

28:26 Drew I'll work on it. I'm just doing it. Come on.

28:28 Adam I got family. I got grieving family.

28:29 Drew It's not referring to our love life.

28:33 Adam I got to talk to Jeff real quick about Survivor. Is this the 8th or the 9th episode?

28:42 10th.

28:43 Adam 10th.

28:44 Jeff Probst 5 years.

28:45 Wow.

28:46 Adam Does that include the best of or the all star?

28:51 Jeff Probst Yeah. And you know what? The ratings went up. This premiere is the biggest premiere we've had since Africa. If you exclude the Super Bowl season where we had a little bump because of the Super Bowl. Yeah, we premiered at 24 million, just under 24 million, which is a huge number going into your fifth year, 10th season.

29:09 Drew Crazy. That's crazy.

29:11 Adam Right. And so for you, Jeff, I mean, on one hand, well, actually on about 10 hands, it's great. On the other hand, you're the survivor guy now. Is that where you want to be your whole career?

29:27 Jeff Probst You know the answer to that question. I mean, you come to, you're in this business hoping to get a job that gets you known. And then the second you get a job that starts to get you known, your friends or people who wish they had your job start saying, well, so how long you think you'll do it? I mean, you don't want to be known as the survivor guy. I don't? I thought that was the whole point, is to get a career.

29:51 Adam So I agree. It's just sometimes, and it just depends. There's some people who are, you know, they have their hearts set on doing features, for instance, or you've got to sing, or I don't know what you've got to do.

30:05 Drew Got to dance.

30:07 Jeff Probst No, I hear you. You know the thing, the truth is that my contract's up after 12, and CBS has already purchased, you know, okayed us to do 11 and 12, and my contract's up, and a lot of people's contracts on the creative end are up. And you're right, after six years of doing the same show, and of traveling and stuff like that, regardless of the fact that I'm still a kid from Wichita who got this lucky job, I get that, and I'm grateful every day, but there is a party that says, all right, what can I do to keep it fresh? This is my only shot. I get one life. I'm gonna die one day, and I wanna have experienced my life the way I see fit. So I definitely have thought of that. And then there's the guy that comes in and says, are you crazy? Robert Forrester, well-known actor from a lot of movies, and he was in Jackie Brown, and super nice guy. And I go hiking with him at Runyon, and he'll tell me, he goes, Jeff, I had a 25-year drought. Don't you dare give up that job.

31:07 Adam Yeah, I mean, he was real big in the 60s, maybe the 70s, and then Quentin Tarantino sort of brought it back, and Jackie Brown. So, no, listen, I'm with you. Take the money, you enjoy your job. And by the way, it's not one of these jobs where you're getting slimed or something. You're actually the cool guy. You land in the helicopter with your choker with the hammerhead shark tooth on it and look like a million bucks yelling at everybody. I think it's a great gig. I just didn't know if personally you wanted to pen some screenplays or something.

31:47 Drew I heard that Alan Hale had this exact discussion with Bob Denver. Exact one.

31:51 Adam Yeah. He had a little buddy and then he hit him with his hat when he was done.

31:55 Jeff Probst You know what I'm still laughing at is the truth that I know is that you and Drew drive home in your little cars and you gossip about the guests and what you'd be saying about me. You know what's funny is that I've already forgotten and I know this isn't the case for anyone else but in my life I've already forgotten the survivor connection with Julie. You know I've dated people before. I fell in love. You know what? Julie hates it when I say this. If I'm wrong about this then I'm going to the celibate broken byman washing machine with this CHIMEN thing, you know? And so I don't sit here and think of it and then you remind me and I think, God, that's right. People hear this and they think it's some goofy little, you know, trolling off the company.

32:40 Drew No, I don't think so.

32:42 Adam Listen, and by the way, how does anybody meet anybody if you really think about it?

32:49 Drew Right. How many months a year do you travel?

32:52 Jeff Probst A lot.

32:53 Drew Yeah.

32:53 Adam Well, I mean, but everybody, you know, ask anyone how they met their wife or girlfriend. They tell you at college, at work, a friend of a friend. I mean, it's in your circle. It's what you do. If you're an attorney, it's another attorney at the firm. This is what you do. That's your law office.

33:12 Jeff Probst But I get it. I mean, there's so much made of reality and the kind of the funny aspects of The Bachelor where nobody ever stays together and the show is all about getting together. And then you have Rob and Amber from Survivor. You know, I just I it's you just, you know, you're like you say, you meet who you meet, where you meet them. But I find it funny when I get reminded of it, because I'd be the same guy sitting at home going, oh, give me a break.

33:40 Adam No, no, I only you know, the fact that you guys are committed is the refreshing part, you know, and that's I don't think anyone can, you know, take umbrage with that, the fact, you know, if you were just having sex with everyone who came on to the island, just doing that, if you were just doing that, yeah, if you're only doing that, the fact that you've settled in with a survivor is commendable. Mazel Tov.

34:09 Drew It's a mitzvah, let's take some calls. I just want to say one more thing, one more thing, one more thing.

34:14 Adam Every time I sit there, Jeff, I know I always bring this up, but every time I sit there and my wife and I watch a show on a Thursday night, first I do the survivor dance.

34:25 Drew He has a dance, Julie has a dance.

34:27 Caller I want to see this.

34:28 Adam Unfortunately, you're going to miss it. My wife starts yelling, do the dance, do the dance. I come running in, I do it in front of, now we have a dog that looks at me like I'm clinically insane when I do the survivor dance. But the point is, I always listen, what are the tribe names going to be? And each year I pray, give me a good one, like Turbo or Nitro Max. And it's always some indigenous BS. Could you please just name it after like a engine additive or something, give it a good American name.

35:02 Jeff Probst One of those American gladiator names like Diamond.

35:06 Adam Yeah, that's what I'm. Yeah. Yeah.

35:07 Drew Turbo.

35:08 Jeff Probst Turbo.

35:08 Adam Turbo thrust would be good.

35:10 Caller Turbo wins immunity.

35:12 Jeff Probst Diamond, back to your camp.

35:14 Adam That'd be awesome, dude.

35:17 Jeff Probst Yeah, it ain't happening, but all right.

35:20 Drew All right. Here we go. This now is Nicole 25.

35:24 Hey, OK, I was I have I got HPV seven years ago when I was 18.

35:30 Drew Good.

35:30 Adam That's warts, everybody.

35:31 Drew Yes, that is.

35:33 Yeah. And they had to do the freezing thing with the nitrogen.

35:38 Right. Right.

35:38 And then and then I had my nurse practitioner do that. And so whatever. Basically, they told me that if if it doesn't come back for a year, then it's gone.

35:47 Drew So I was like, that's not necessarily true. But go ahead.

35:50 Well, right. Which I realized seven years later, I was they said that my my past mere came back abnormal.

35:58 So I went back.

36:00 Basically, they said it was back.

36:02 Drew What if maybe you've been re-exposed?

36:05 Hmm.

36:06 Is that possible?

36:07 Drew Oh, absolutely. There's many different kinds of word viruses out there.

36:11 Well, anyway, I went back in and they said, whatever, it's back. But then I went in again, you know, to do a culture. And they said that I'm fine and it's gone. So I'm wondering what happened, what they found.

36:22 Drew And here, what period of time was this between when it reoccurred and went away? Seven weeks or?

36:29 Um, maybe two weeks.

36:32 Drew So that doesn't make, I would assume it, I would really assume it's still there and follow up very carefully every six months with pap smears. I doubt this is the same virus that was there seven years ago, because it would have been, there would have been evidence of persistence. However, you need to know that the viruses that last more than five years tend to be the ones that cause the cervical cancer. So if this is the same one, you really need to stay on top of it. If it's a new one, which it probably is, also make sure it's not one of the ones that sticks around and causes the cancer. So you need to get regular, regular exams. Assume it's still around. Wear condoms more fastidiously, okay?

37:06 Well, the thing, like I'm...

37:07 Adam Well, maybe she should have her partners wear the condoms.

37:10 Drew Yeah, yeah, you're right.

37:12 Adam I think it's a little presumptuous to stuff yourself with a condom before a date.

37:16 Drew Touche, touche. Well said.

37:17 Adam Well, though, if I did go out with a gal and she had the condom in her already, I'd be like, oh, you're gonna score, dude. This is your thing.

37:27 Well, the guy I'm with right now, I plan to be with him, like, it's it. I'm not doing anything else. So, I mean, he knows everything, so I don't want to...

37:36 Drew Yeah, you gotta assume that he's got it, too, now, so he may have to be checked to make sure there's no pre-wart changes in his skin.

37:41 Even though my doctor said that I don't have it?

37:45 Drew I just think the fact that you had it there, I would, again, I would proceed, I'm not saying whether you do or you don't, I would proceed as though you do. You see what I'm saying?

37:52 Adam What do you do with this guy, though? You're gonna...

37:55 Drew Hold on, quiet down.

37:56 Adam Tell him, quiet her down.

37:57 Drew Well, wait, I wanna hear what she said. Wait, wait, what'd you say? Nicole, what'd you say?

38:01 Oh, this was like, this was two months ago, which, you know, they just said, you know, come back, you know, in six months and you're fine.

38:08 Drew All right, well, if you were fine, if you were fine, they wouldn't be having you back in six months, that's the point. You need to have pap smears every six months. I totally agree with that. And I'm saying your boyfriend needs to be checked as well because he, if you have the virus, you probably do, it's probably a new one, he's probably got it. So he's gotta get checked too, just to be sure. Dermatologist would be the place to go with him, okay?

38:30 Okay. All right.

38:31 Adam He should just go ahead and get it if they're looking at settling in, right? He doesn't wanna wear a condom.

38:36 Drew No, no, he's already got it. He's already got it. So yeah, no, no. If it's one guy, it's good to go.

38:42 Adam But what would you say, Drew, if there was a, hypothetically, let's just say Jeff had the warm virus.

38:49 Caller Just, just, why do we gotta use me?

38:51 Drew Because 50% of men have it, there's two of us in the room, so let's just use you.

38:56 Adam Right, okay. He's just, you know, one too many Hollywood-

39:00 Jeff Probst Do I know it?

39:01 Adam No, you don't know it. No, yes, you do know it.

39:04 Drew Okay.

39:04 Adam You do know it. And Julie and Jeff are very serious, and, you know, they're thinking about making a life together. Does Jeff need to wear a condom?

39:15 Drew It's an interesting question. Depends, here's what should happen. He should get the warts carefully controlled before the condom comes off. And then, even so, she may well get it, and let's just hope it's not the kind that caused cervical cancer. It's an interesting question.

39:29 Adam Well, but because who's gonna wear a condom? Well, you say-

39:31 Jeff Probst God, I suddenly feel itchy.

39:33 Drew You can't wear the condom forever because you're gonna try to have kids. And so, yeah, the condom's coming off.

39:38 Adam Well, just in general, I mean, forget about the, you know, attempts where you try to crap out a kid. How about every other Friday night? You know what I'm saying?

39:47 Drew Yes, yes.

39:48 Adam I mean, if you're gonna get married, let's be realistic.

39:50 Drew I agree. I definitely feel that way about herpes. You just kind of like, whatever, we'll see what happens. Yeah. All right, we're gonna take a break.

39:59 Adam Really? All right.

40:00 Drew Yeah. Yeah.

40:01 Jeff Probst Hang tight, Adam. We'll be right back.

40:03 Adam I'll be here.

40:08 All right.

40:09 Drew Okay. Loveline, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Jeff Probst, Julie Berry, Survivor, Adam.

40:26 Adam Yeah.

40:27 Drew Yeah, let's play a little Germany or Florida, shall we?

40:29 Adam Yeah.

40:30 Drew Let's go right to it. This now is Robert, 21.

40:34 Hey, before I go, I'd just like to say that usually I would call in and just throw praise at Adam's feet, but telling Adam he's a genius is basically like telling the Pope he's Catholic. It's just too obvious.

40:46 Adam Thank you. Thank you, Robert.

40:47 Drew Thank you for that non-praise. That's very good, Robert.

40:50 No, but I was just going to say, Drew, I saw you on Court TV two weeks ago, and I thought that you came off really well, and I enjoyed it a lot.

40:57 Drew Well, thank you, Robert. I appreciate that.

40:58 Adam Well, let's explain that and be fair. He didn't know the car was in gear when he picked up the hooker. She's alive. I don't think that was thoroughly explained in the court.

41:14 Drew Adam, you don't transport people in the trunk?

41:18 Adam I mean, yeah, I'm defending you, buddy.

41:20 Drew Oh, OK. OK. Thank you.

41:22 Jeff Probst I just think it sounded weird when because I watched it, too. And it just sounded weird. But when you explained it, it made perfect sense.

41:28 Drew I mean, especially when I pointed out how Corolla does this all the time. Yeah, I learned the technique.

41:35 Adam Drew, what were you doing on court TV?

41:37 Drew I'm trying to remember. I do a lot of news.

41:40 Jeff Probst You came off very well.

41:42 Drew I was talking about, it's got to be teachers and the teachers having sex with their kids.

41:49 I think it was about the boy who was trying to use the Zoloft defense.

41:52 Drew Oh, absolutely. It was. It was the Zoloft defense. I beg your pardon, which I thought was just totally bogus. So thank you.

41:57 Adam What was that? What was it?

41:58 Drew The guy was saying, they were saying that a kid shot his grandmother, grandfather with a shotgun because he'd been on Zoloft for two weeks. This, by the way, had been beaten by his grandparents. He was a long-term behavioral problem. And I said, look, for one thing, it just doesn't happen like that. But there is one way they could have made the case is that sometimes antidepressants are inappropriately prescribed to patients with bipolar disorder. They get manic, they get disorganized, they get nuts, they get agitated, and they'll do wild things. They didn't make that case. They were just saying, oh, it's the medicine. It's the medicine.

42:32 Jeff Probst So if I ever wanted to kill somebody, you know, somebody gets...

42:37 Drew Just get on Prozac the week before and you're good.

42:39 Jeff Probst So I come to you and I say, here, I need a clinical, and I work backwards.

42:43 Drew Yes, you just examine, you do the research on what symptoms you need to present with, present with them, get the medicine and go kill your person.

42:50 Adam But can I ask you this, Drew?

42:52 Drew Yeah.

42:53 Adam I feel, and you know, I speak for myself, but I think I speak for you and Jeff and Julie and many people listening to the show. It's not in our vocabulary to take a shotgun to somebody, whether we're in a fugue manic state or not, you know what I'm saying?

43:10 Drew And as you and I both know, you need to traumatize people to the point that the brain mechanisms that contain that kind of behavior or the things that generate those behaviors are met. In other words, you've got to do things to people or they have to have long-term brain dysfunction that predisposes to that kind of thing. So there you go. All right.

43:29 Adam Well, speaking of that, let's talk Germany or Florida. Go ahead, Robert.

43:34 I heard this on the O'Reilly Factor, but I had to put it in my own words, so I hope it's easy enough to understand.

43:38 Drew Germany.

43:38 Adam All right.

43:39 Zookeepers and scientists were troubled recently when it was discovered that a group of penguins in the zoo appeared to be homosexual. The problem lay in the fact that they were of an endangered variety, and obviously, gay penguin love doesn't exactly lend itself to procreation. So in an attempt to straighten out the limp wing to birds, local scientists requested that a group of female penguins of the same sort be shipped in from Sweden. The scientists, however, encountered another unexpected problem when local gay and lesbian rights activists protested the move, labeling it as discriminatory and insensitive to homosexuals.

44:11 Adam Wow.

44:12 Now, is this Germany or Florida?

44:14 Adam Wow. Let me say this first with the gays and the lesbos. It just dawned on me why they have so much time to pick it and boycott it. They don't have kids screaming for them all the time. Right. You really realize if you have a segment of society that doesn't have a bunch of crying kids waiting at home for them, they're perfectly free to hit the streets with signs and protest things. So it's really, it's a bad group to screw with. Because like, Drew, you couldn't protest anything, could you?

44:48 Drew No money, no time. It's all going to the kids.

44:51 Adam Right. Right. And your wife couldn't, she's too busy, like taking the kid to figure skating classes and stuff.

44:56 Right. Absolutely.

44:57 Adam The gays have nothing but time for protesting. And they can cruise the event, you know what I mean?

45:04 Drew They're just, they're probably not even their process.

45:06 Adam Yeah, they're not protesting. They're just looking for a guy with a yellow bandana.

45:10 OK.

45:11 Adam Yeah.

45:12 Let me just interrupt and say, yeah, I protest every weekend.

45:16 Adam That's right. Oh, yeah. Engineers, Michelle. And it's a great place to score, right?

45:20 Caller Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I meet chicks all the time.

45:23 Adam Yeah, that's the thing.

45:24 Drew Yeah.

45:24 Adam If there was just a single straight guy protest, I might go there and cruise some chicks.

45:31 Drew All right.

45:31 Adam So I know the answer to this.

45:34 Drew Oh, really? You want to just let it go? Because you have like 20 seconds before break.

45:36 Adam I'm going to abstain. But you guys, you guys want to guess when we come back?

45:40 Drew When we come back. So in the meantime, we'll put Robert on hold. We will talk more German near Florida and penguins in Sweden. When we return, Jeff Probst, Julie Berry, Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191 and we will return after this.

45:54 Here it is.

45:54 Adam Bottom line, it sucks being single today.

45:57 Tons of lame people and no decent prospects. Call the dateline.

46:02 1-877-889-DATE. Love Line will be right back, so get your problems ready, ready, ready.

46:24 Drew That's right, it's Love Line, 1-800-LOVE-191. You say survivor, I think Jeff Probst.

46:36 Adam I'm doing my dance.

46:38 Caller We are in the middle of the South Pacific, where Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew are attempting to do their show live without any satellites. No microphones.

46:49 Drew Just yelling. Just screaming.

46:52 Adam Hey, Jeff, can I ask you, have you, obviously, you don't know who the ultimate winner of this 10th year of, or 10th season of Survivor is, but do you know how you're going to make your grand entrance? And they seem to get bigger each season. Do you feel compelled to outdo yourself?

47:13 Jeff Probst Adam, I'm going to share with you, as a testament to my love for you and Drew, I'm going to share with you something not previously said. There will be no huge entrance this season.

47:27 Drew Well, that's the huge entrance, Adam.

47:30 Adam Why not?

47:31 Jeff Probst Because of, honestly, because of what you just said, you can't, I, you know, it would be...

47:37 Drew It becomes cliche at a certain point.

47:38 Jeff Probst Yeah, well, there's this fine line, you know, we are over the top and we, you know, we do things over the top, but you can't always top yourself. And if you don't have something really good, my philosophy is, if we don't have something really good, just do it honestly, then just do it straight. And we don't always have, we tried, we tried to come up with something and we just didn't, the location didn't lend to itself. And some of the ideas being pitched to me, I just thought, you know what, it's, it's not going to work. It's not, it's not.

48:04 Drew That's nice that they give you that kind of creative control, though, where you can say, guys, well, it's not that that I have creative control.

48:10 Jeff Probst It's that we have a nucleus of people and we all work together.

48:12 Drew To me, that's a testament to Mark Burnett.

48:14 Jeff Probst Oh, Mark gives us.

48:16 Drew But that he's listening to you guys.

48:17 Jeff Probst He does. And Mark doesn't even come out that much anymore. He doesn't have to. He's got to do the company.

48:24 Adam Last year, yeah, I just want to refresh everyone's memory of last season where you hacked through the jungle, got on the seaplane, and then you parachuted out of the plane onto the vintage circa 1942 Indian motorcycle and drove that straight into CBS. And, you know, it was funny, like people, well, I showed up at Kimmel the next day and people were like, that seaplane couldn't have made it from the island all the way to Los Angeles. I was like, come on, everybody, it's a, you know, it's a little artistic license.

49:01 Jeff Probst I am amazed when people show up and they'll go, just so you know, I know you didn't ride the jet ski from the Amazon. I happen to know that the gas tank, you know, could.

49:13 Drew How do they watch a James Bond film? Yeah, I mean, like, no way, dude.

49:18 Caller No, well, that's the thing.

49:20 Adam And I think maybe and or maybe tell me if I'm foisting this on you or not, Jeff, but maybe, you know, you have a little different criteria because you guys are a reality show and James Bond is, you know, fictional character. And so when you do these large scale things, I think they're really cool, but you run the risk of sort of soiling the other parts of the show that aren't cooked.

49:48 Jeff Probst You know what? I hear what you're saying. And it is I had never really thought about that. But to me, it's in the same sort of world. This is probably a stretch of an analogy. But we'll have people on the show and they'll say, well, you know, this challenge isn't fair. You know, I'm not as strong or this challenge is built more for men or whatever. And we'll always say, and puzzles aren't fair to stupid people. I mean, if you can't figure out that at the end of the show, it's over. And then I jump up into the air and suddenly start flying that I'm really not flying.

50:21 Caller You know what?

50:23 Jeff Probst That's your problem. Right.

50:24 Adam Well, it's it's you. You're not a fan anyway at that point. If you're sitting there looking to pick holes in it. And I do commend you, by the way, on the challenges, because each and every week you have to think of ones that aren't uniquely weighted in one direction or another, because it is so much easier or seemingly easier for a lot of the guys to win the obstacle course type things.

50:50 Jeff Probst Yeah.

50:50 Adam But that you have the puzzles. And I was surprised. I mean, I really learned from the show that women seem to have more endurance than men, even though it was something that was commonly talked about before this. They're the ones that seem to last longer on one leg, standing on a peer pylon than the guys.

51:09 Jeff Probst Right. Did you see that, Julie, on your season? Because we've always felt that, that women's willpower is stronger.

51:15 Endurance, definitely. Willpower? I don't know.

51:19 Adam But isn't endurance just sort of a byproduct of willpower?

51:25 Drew It's figures into it, right?

51:26 Yeah, well, I would assume so. Yeah.

51:29 Drew You know what challenge is coming into my mind? Remember the one, season one or two, where they were standing just with their hand on a post, power on end, and the old guy sort of blanked? Yeah.

51:38 Jeff Probst He just lost his concentration for a second.

51:40 Drew She was ready for a couple more days there. She was like leaning into it and, whatever. Yeah.

51:45 Jeff Probst And you see things with upper body strength. If you have to have ten people holding something up over their head, bet on the woman. They're going to win that. I don't know, Drew, why that is medically, but...

51:56 Drew Not just the weight of the arms.

51:57 Jeff Probst The guys just can't do it.

51:59 Drew Hey, let's... We got a problem here. Let's finish up with Robert, who was maybe near 15 minutes ago, was giving us a German near Florida. Hey, Robert?

52:06 Adam Yes.

52:07 Drew The problem with it, you presented this in a very skillful and artistic manner by, A, putting in your own words, lending us to think it could be a German translation, mentioning the Swedish source of the penguins. So well done. I for a second thought, could that have been German? But I realized I've read this story.

52:24 Adam He lifted it from the O'Reilly fad.

52:27 Drew Yeah, I know.

52:28 Adam He paraphrased.

52:29 Drew No, I know. And I've heard this story too. So we've all kind of heard it, I think. So unfortunately.

52:35 Adam So does everyone know where it's from?

52:38 Drew Guys know? Jeff?

52:39 Adam Florida.

52:40 Drew Florida. Wrong.

52:42 It's Bremen, Germany.

52:46 Drew That's great.

52:47 Adam And that's why you have to play the game.

52:50 Caller You understand?

52:52 Adam Really? Wow.

52:54 Drew Well done. Well done.

52:55 Jeff Probst What does he get?

52:56 The fact that they shipped the penguins in from Sweden would make it obvious that it was in Europe, because why would they ship penguins in from Sweden in Florida?

53:03 Drew That's what... I thought you were trying to trick us with that. See, it was...

53:07 Adam See, Drew, here's... Let me explain a couple of things. First, Jeff, you ask what he gets. Well, we don't really have anything to give away, but we do something unique. We don't give the winners a gift, but we don't give them herpes. You see?

53:23 Jeff Probst Nice.

53:23 Adam It's different, because what would you rather have? A crappy windbreaker or not getting herpes?

53:28 Jeff Probst Yeah, definitely. You're so right.

53:31 Drew It's great.

53:32 Adam So, Robert, you'll not be getting herpes.

53:35 Drew There you go.

53:36 Adam See, sometimes it's not getting. It's not what you get. It's what you don't get.

53:39 Jeff Probst It's what you don't get.

53:41 Adam Herpes, a bullet, crabs, hit by a train. These are all better.

53:45 Jeff Probst That's a nice little hallmark.

53:47 Adam Yeah, all better than a tote bag, if you really think about it. Secondly, Drew, let me yell at you for a second.

53:55 Drew Yes, please, because I'm about to yell at myself.

53:57 Adam You constantly, well, I do a better job of it than you, so let me handle it. You constantly think that our callers are trying to trick us with the Germany or Florida. I keep telling you they're not smart enough to trick us. It's like saying your dog is trying to trick you by not eating the food. Well done. It's not in its vocabulary.

54:17 Drew Yes, you're right.

54:18 Adam They're not advanced enough. And it's interesting. And you're going to have to take a good long look in the mirror about this one. You constantly think you're trying to be deceived on this game. And I keep explaining you that's not part of it. So why is it? Did you think everyone's trying to fool you?

54:34 Drew Well, it's even worse. I'm more suggestible. I am. I'd read the story and I heard all the hints at Germany and stuff. I thought, I think it's Germany. And Michelle goes, I read it too. It's in Florida. I went, oh, I guess it was Florida. I guess I'm wrong. That's true. Yeah. I go, oh, I thought it was Germany. Oh, Florida, Michelle.

54:49 Caller It was all over the paper.

54:50 Drew I mean, Florida.

54:51 Caller Yeah, Florida. I read it in many different papers.

54:54 Drew That's what she said to me. And I went, oh, well, I guess I knew I read it, but I'm from I guess.

54:58 Adam I just I did that pilot for Comedy Central. And this is one of the things we talked about. And it was Germany. It was a whole week of this. So I believe you me.

55:09 Drew Take some calls. Here's Shara 22. Yeah. What's going on?

55:12 Caller Hi. I have been with my husband for four years now. And we've been married for two and a half. I was curious. He. OK, we have a good sex life and everything. I mean, I am complete and just fine. But he can't give me an orgasm without using something else, like a vibrator or something else.

55:42 Drew But he is able to you are able to have one.

55:44 Caller Yes. I mean, I have no problem once we use something. But he could sit there and go down on me for like an hour or two hours. And I mean, it feels good, but I can't reach a peak. And I don't know if that's something I'm like inhibited or.

56:04 Adam Well, first, let me say if you're not having one by, you know, minute ninety eight with me, I'm backing off. I'm regrouping what I pull back and regroup at this point.

56:18 Drew You take a deep breath and then go back in.

56:20 Adam Yeah, I go into the closet and I yell, get a hand in boys. We got to break it down.

56:25 Drew Yeah, it's another survivor challenge, I think.

56:28 Adam Yeah, I think the ladies probably would win this one, too. All right, look, if it doesn't work, but it does work this way, then that's fine. I mean, you guys have worked it out.

56:42 Drew Yeah, don't overthink it.

56:44 Caller Well, I just feel bad because it makes him feel like he's incompetent or something and I feel, I don't know if it's something that I am keeping inhibited or...

56:52 Drew No, no, no. Way too much is made of that whole notion that it's something sort of psychological. There's a biological wiring to a lot of this. Are you on medication of any kind?

57:00 Caller No.

57:01 Drew Birth control pills, anything?

57:02 Caller No.

57:04 Adam How about getting the vibrator involved with the oral sex?

57:08 Caller Right. He actually got one of those little tongue vibrator things and tried that. But even using that, like, I couldn't... And I don't know, you know, he just...

57:20 Adam How does the tongue vibrator work?

57:23 Caller Well, it's just a little... He's got a tongue ring, and it's a little vibrator thing that you... It's a little attachment thing you can put on a tongue ring. And then it's got a little battery in there, and it just vibrates away. And it felt like he had a bee in his mouth. Wow. Something like that.

57:40 Adam It's gonna be awesome a few years from now when guys start getting tumors on their brain.

57:45 Drew You know what?

57:45 Adam Vibrators, yeah.

57:47 Jeff Probst Guys have... And Drew, tell me if this is medically whatever, but guys have got to realize that women are not like men.

57:55 Drew Oh, yes.

57:56 Jeff Probst They do not climax or get off or whatever in 30 seconds.

58:00 Drew You know, it's really... We actually, again, for this Discovery Health thing I was working on, we did a masturbation diary where these couple did this video diary of what they were doing. And the woman would get in front of the camera and go, Well, today I'm feeling really good about myself and I'm ready to go in and do this, so I'm lighting some candles. And next day it's like, Oh, I've had a tough day at work, kids are a little tough, so maybe on Tuesday, maybe I'll get around to it. The guy's like, I saw something on TV that reminded me of Angie Dickinson, so I had to squeeze one off. I saw something in the car, so I had to squeeze one off. I saw something. I mean, I suddenly felt a little, so I squeezed one off. I mean, four times a day, the guy's just, pow, just boom, boom. And she has to prepare and be in the exact right sort of frame of mind for this thing to happen. And the whole process is different for women than men.

58:44 Jeff Probst And, and, pipe it on this, Ms. Barry.

58:46 Adam Drew, hold on, let me just compliment, let me compliment Drew. Your police woman reference couldn't have been timelier. There's not a 14 year old listening to this show who isn't thinking about Angie Dickinson right now.

58:59 Drew Let me fill out the story. This guy goes, I saw someone on TV, they remind me of Angie Dickinson, and I saw her when I was like 11 years old, and that's, I thought she was hot, and so I had to squeeze one off. And it's like, 30 years old, talking about references to the police woman, but that's all it takes.

59:13 Adam It's going to be great when their kids see that masturbation diary in a few years. They think, yeah, go ahead.

59:19 Jeff Probst No, sorry, sorry. I keep stepping on you.

59:22 Adam No, it's all you, Jeff. Go ahead, buddy.

59:24 Jeff Probst Well, here's the other thing that seems like a lot of women will say, and this is what I was going to ask Miss Barry about, is that getting off for a guy is-

59:35 Drew Is sex.

59:35 Jeff Probst Is the goal.

59:36 Drew Yes, no, no.

59:37 Jeff Probst Is sex.

59:38 Drew And so when women say, I have a very good sex life, I'm enjoying sex, but I didn't have an orgasm, the guy here is, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

59:44 Jeff Probst Yeah. It's like, or I'm not doing good.

59:46 Drew I can't even make sense of it. It's like, I can't believe you're telling me that was good if you didn't have, how could that be?

59:52 Caller And yet they're, they could be completely sincere.

59:54 Jeff Probst Yes. That my sex life is great. And every so often I have an orgasm.

59:58 I don't agree with that.

59:59 Jeff Probst No.

1:00:00 No.

1:00:00 Drew Well, that there are women that feel that Julie's not one of those.

1:00:02 Jeff Probst I agree with that. OK, so let's make it clear that Julie's not one of those women. This, by the way, is awful.

1:00:08 Drew By the way, this also is the other confusing thing about women. There is this huge spectrum where they're all different. Men come in one version, one version, and women have this spectrum. And so guys are confused, like, which one are you? Are you the one that has to have this or not?

1:00:22 Jeff Probst And if you don't look at it as a problem, but as an opportunity for fun, you know, seriously, if you got to get it out of your head that, oh, my God, it took two hours, I must suck at this and say two hours of sex.

1:00:34 Caller Come on. That's great.

1:00:36 Adam Yeah. Like building a ship in a bottle. Satisfying at the end of a long journey.

1:00:41 Jeff Probst I tell you, you know, that's how I look at it. If I'm with my woman and I'm having a good time and we're still going two hours in, that's a good night.

1:00:51 Adam All right. So the moral of our story for Shara is, or Shara is, do we know it's Shara?

1:00:59 Yes.

1:00:59 Drew Let's say Shara.

1:01:01 Yes.

1:01:01 Adam Oh, there's an E in there. Is don't get up in your head about this whole thing.

1:01:07 Drew You're fine.

1:01:07 Adam Stop pushing too hard. You got a guy. Stick with him.

1:01:11 Drew Don't succumb also to his ego needs that you have to have an orgasm a certain way or experience sex a certain way. You experience it as you experience it. You're satisfied. It's good times. So there you go.

1:01:22 Caller All right.

1:01:23 Adam That's good.

1:01:25 Drew This is Becky 22.

1:01:27 Caller Hi.

1:01:28 Caller Hey.

1:01:30 Drew 91 minutes on hold, Adam. 91 minutes. And listen to that.

1:01:34 Caller 91 minutes, yes.

1:01:36 It feels like it, too.

1:01:37 Caller But I had a question for Dr. Drew.

1:01:39 Drew Yeah.

1:01:40 Caller I have a large lump on the lip of my vagina. I went to the doctor and they said that they would think it was lipoma except of its location. I got an ultrasound of it and then I heard back. They said if I don't hear back, it's probably okay. Except when I was looking at the lipoma, which is what I thought they thought it was.

1:02:00 Drew No, it's not a lipoma. It's not a lipoma.

1:02:02 Jeff Probst What's a lipoma?

1:02:03 Drew Lipoma, just a little fatty collection. Everyone's got them. They're around. They're no big deal. But the lips tend to cause glandular cysts. And so what kind of doctor was this you saw?

1:02:14 Caller I just saw a general doctor, but she referred me to someone else who did an ultrasound of it.

1:02:18 Drew A gynecologist?

1:02:20 Caller No, it wasn't a gynecologist.

1:02:21 Drew No, you saw, you went to the radiologist and had an ultrasound. You need to see a gynecologist. They see these things all the time. Right now, just use hot compresses, hot baths, that sort of thing. It's probably a Bartholomew's gland cyst. They're no big deal. They're very common. Okay?

1:02:34 Adam Well, why does she need to get it checked out, then?

1:02:36 Drew Because they sometimes need to be drained. They can be kind of, they can get huge and get pussy and obnoxious and sometimes they have to be drained.

1:02:43 Jeff Probst Well, you guys are taking all the fun out of sex tonight.

1:02:45 Drew That's our plan.

1:02:47 Caller Is it okay that it's really hard?

1:02:48 Like, it feels like a bone.

1:02:52 Drew Yeah, yeah, but it's smooth, though. It's very, very round, right?

1:02:57 Caller Kind of. It's like three inches long and it's semi-smooth.

1:03:03 Adam Three inches long?

1:03:05 Drew But it doesn't feel like a rock. It's not pebbly surface.

1:03:10 Caller It doesn't feel like a bunch of pebbles. It feels like one big rock, kind of.

1:03:13 Drew One big smooth rock.

1:03:15 Caller Yeah.

1:03:16 Drew Yeah, it's a cyst, I'm sure of it. Plus, they would see a cyst and go, that's nothing. But you need to see a gynecologist. Sometimes this can become a little bit of a problem.

1:03:26 Adam I would lance it if I was her.

1:03:28 Drew I know you would.

1:03:28 Adam That would be my thing.

1:03:30 Drew I know.

1:03:30 Adam Because here's the thing. To me, it's not what the problem is, it's whether I can get to it or not.

1:03:37 Drew You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know. And both Julie and Jeff seem very impressed by that lancing impulse you have. Why don't you share with them the crowning glory of your lancing career? Please. They seem very interested in this. And the technique, the technique you've mastered for it.

1:03:53 Adam It's really what makes me survivor material, quite honestly. I don't like the brag. But when I was I must have been 18 or 19, I got a carbuncle on my ass. And I don't mean on my ass. I mean, in my hands. I mean, it was somewhere between Anisburg and Scrotumville at about 630, right? A little closer to Anisburg. And you get one of those babies down there and you can't walk. You know, laughing hurts. And I didn't, you know, I didn't have insurance. I didn't have a doctor. And besides, I didn't want anyone monkeying around down there anyway. Little did I know that, you know, 15 short years later, Drew would be destroying my behemoth. But I digress. So I couldn't find it, though. I actually had to use a mirror and shine a flashlight on it in order to bounce the flashlight off of the off of the mirror and into my ass. Yeah.

1:04:58 Drew And you know, they and they point out to me, it's the special challenge of the Sherwood Forest you have to deal with there.

1:05:05 Adam Well, it was pretty it was it was a pretty rocky road, Drew, I must admit. But, you know, I was I was a I was a lad of 18. So, you know, I hadn't grown into full manhood.

1:05:15 Drew And as Adam once said when he was describing this this procedure, it was like trying to find Santa Claus's mouth.

1:05:24 Adam Disgusting. I can't believe I said that. I must have been drunk. The point is, is I was able to take one of my stepmother's sewing pins and lance that baby myself. And let me tell you, when that thing finally went off, I was liberated. And it was like it was like that scene from Tommy where he was able to see I was just running down the street with my shirt off jumping on top of every every lawn screaming to the heavens. It was awesome. But my point is, is you can lance your own carbuncles. I'm not saying this is one of them, Drew, but I've done a lot of personal lancing with a great degree of success.

1:06:13 Drew I know you would go at this.

1:06:15 Adam Yeah, I would.

1:06:16 Drew I'm glad.

1:06:17 Jeff Probst No, I was going to say, you are survivor material. You're right. Anybody who says they would lance their own carbuncle.

1:06:24 Drew Not just any carbuncle. But at 630 in Anisville.

1:06:27 Jeff Probst Anisville.

1:06:27 Drew This is Sean's, Sean 15.

1:06:31 Caller Hey, John. Oh, first, I wanted to ask Adam, when are the pilots running?

1:06:38 Adam They don't run it. They just tell you whether you get to do the series or not. And right now it looks promising. But no definitive answer yet. But thank you for asking.

1:06:49 Caller All right. I look forward to that. All right. Questions for Jeff and Julie, I guess. I was, today, let's see, the guy, one of the guys from Survivor Vanuatu came on. And he was the guy missing the leg. Chad. Yeah, Chad. And he just came in for giving an inspirational speech. And I was just wondering, how was it? How was he got on the show? And, you know, were there any, did he have to do any like tasks or?

1:07:27 Adam Well, that's a good question. Did he have to have to make sure he could move with his prosthetic?

1:07:33 Jeff Probst Yeah, he did. And the story on Chad was, I mean, yeah, you can't have any advantages in the game and you can't help anybody. So our deal with him is you have to know that you're going into this game like anybody else. And that means everything. And we went through all the things that could go wrong with his leg could, where the shoe, where he sort of, where it fits up against his, you know, what's left of his leg. What happens if that part of his leg gets infected or what happens if he loses part of his leg? What happens if, you know, the foot on the leg breaks or something like that? You're on your own. And so we went through this, you know, this pretty battery of test with him physically. And the amazing thing about Chad is that he was more physically fit than probably 75 percent of any guy that's ever applied to be on the show. And I think, Sean, when you look back on that season, the story on Chad is there was no story.

1:08:30 Caller It never came up.

1:08:31 Jeff Probst And you became friends with him. I mean, you spent time with him. What was it like out there?

1:08:35 Chad's great. And the best thing you can say about him is that you don't even realize. I don't look at Chad and think, oh, the guy without the leg. I mean, he's very agile. And I mean, he was great out there. And I don't think it hurt or helped him or, you know, did anything. Yeah.

1:08:49 Adam It seemed to be a non-issue, which is really saying something for prosthetics.

1:08:55 Jeff Probst Well, no, I think it is saying something for prosthetics and for Chad. Chad is a hardworking guy who applied himself. He hadn't had the leg, what, two years?

1:09:06 Last, I think, a year.

1:09:07 Drew Yeah.

1:09:08 Jeff Probst I mean, it's amazing what he could do in the room. We had him do a literally do a dance.

1:09:12 Caller He could go laterally.

1:09:13 Jeff Probst He could go forward.

1:09:14 Drew How did he lose the leg? Cancer.

1:09:17 Jeff Probst So I think what it is is a testament to that you can get over a lot of things if you truly want to. But that's cool that he came in and gave that speech. I'd like to hear him talk because he's a neat guy.

1:09:31 Adam Yeah, and the fact that it wasn't like he was, that was a birth defect, like he'd had that prosthetic fitted just a year old, a year earlier makes it that much more impressive.

1:09:43 Jeff Probst Think about it. Scout couldn't get around at all. She's got a few years on Chad, but I remember watching some of those challenges and Chad did... Tore it up. Tore it up. He really did.

1:09:56 Adam Well, that then brings up another question, which is other than the interview part and the psychological testing part, is there a physical part? I mean, if you're not Chad, do you know what I mean? Do you have them do an obstacle course or do something like that?

1:10:13 Jeff Probst It's funny. I was going to say yes, because I know we used to have them do it and Julie's over here shaking her head.

1:10:18 No, I never had one.

1:10:19 Drew Nothing, no physical.

1:10:20 They ask you and I think they just judge from appearance, but maybe they do for some of them, but I didn't have to go through anything.

1:10:27 Jeff Probst Well, it's because Julie was the chosen one. We knew this early on.

1:10:34 Adam By the way, Julie, refresh my memory. When did you get voted off?

1:10:40 I made it to day 36, so I was five left and I got voted out.

1:10:46 Jeff Probst She was right before the final episode.

1:10:49 Yeah.

1:10:49 Adam Yeah. And Julie, do you have any, you know, do you feel like had it not, you know, not for a vote one way or the other, you could have ended up as the final two?

1:11:01 That's a complicated question. I think it could pair off in many different ways, but.

1:11:05 Drew Are you resentful or anger with anybody?

1:11:07 No, not at all. Not at all. I feel very lucky to have experienced it and made the friends I did.

1:11:12 Adam And you got the ultimate prize.

1:11:14 Well, of course, yes.

1:11:16 Adam Yeah.

1:11:16 Caller Thank you there.

1:11:17 Adam Yeah, the buff.

1:11:20 Caller The buff.

1:11:21 Adam Yeah, what you think I was talking about? Jeff, how many of those buffs? Seriously, I've never seen anyone walk around with one of those buffs on. And you guys never stop hawking them. How many of you sold in ten seasons? You sold eight of those?

1:11:35 Caller How many of those have been sold?

1:11:37 Adam Well, wait. That's ironic.

1:11:38 Jeff Probst It's not me because I don't have anything to do with it. But the most popular item sold at the cbs.com website is the survivor buff. It's more than CSI merchandise or everybody loves Raymond. It's that buff.

1:11:52 Adam Really?

1:11:53 Jeff Probst Everybody wants a buff.

1:11:54 But it's so true because you never see them out. You just never know.

1:11:57 Adam And people must have some sort of buff display case like you put military flags in. They don't wear them when they're jogging.

1:12:05 Drew Yes, you're right.

1:12:07 Caller All right.

1:12:08 Drew Yes, we got to go to break. And we will do that right now.

1:12:13 Caller If you need to call Loveline 1-800-LOVE-191.

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1:12:37 Drew Love Line, Survivor, Jeff Probst, Julie Berry. Phone number here 1-800-LOVE-191. Adams in Charlotte, is that where you are?

1:12:47 Adam Yes, I am.

1:12:48 Drew And it sounds like you're just in the studio with us. Sounds great.

1:12:52 Adam Thank you, Drew. Is it raining over there now?

1:12:55 Drew What do you think?

1:12:56 Adam I'm going to go with yes.

1:12:58 Drew Yeah, it's having this, it's gone into the sort of weird phase of stopping and then starting with these unbelievable deluges. The deluges alternate with water and ice. It's like hail, constant hail, huge sheets of hail.

1:13:13 Jeff Probst Lots of houses sliding away.

1:13:15 Drew Yes, a lot of stuff.

1:13:16 Adam Well, you know, maybe this will stem the tide of horrible driving transplants that move to Los Angeles and Southern California each year.

1:13:27 Drew Right.

1:13:27 Adam Yeah, maybe that's a good thing.

1:13:29 Drew Yeah, hope. It's kind of, yeah, it's just a weird, I started thinking tonight, you know, we've exceeded Seattle for rainfall this year.

1:13:36 Adam Really?

1:13:37 Drew Yeah, by quite a margin, apparently. And this is the third most rain since Juanippo Serra started keeping records at the St. Gabriel Mission 400 years ago for this region of the country.

1:13:48 Adam Yeah, well, you know, actually, just for my own edification, why don't you have Michelle, thank you, pop on the Internet there and find out, like, how far we're past our seasonal, whatever we're supposed to have and whatever records, how badly we've crushed them already.

1:14:06 Drew We're, last I heard, we're, we're like 33 inches, which makes it number three in all time. And, and moving up quickly, moving towards number one. And I think our usual rainfall for the year is 19 inches. And last year at this time, it was like 12 or 14.

1:14:23 Adam And we have another couple of months left, right?

1:14:26 Drew That's right.

1:14:27 Jeff Probst Every day I live up on a hill in one of the canyons. Every day I go home, I think. I hope it's there. There's nothing you can do. You just sit in your house and you watch the rain and you wonder if it's your hill that's coming down.

1:14:42 Adam But I'll tell you what you cannot do, which is after your entire neighborhood flows away in a stream of mud, please don't rebuild. I'm tired of these idiots who stare into the news camera and proudly boast that they will be rebuilding.

1:14:59 Drew Or the ones that aren't leaving while the slides occurring. Yeah. We're not going to leave. We're supposed to praise them for their fortitude.

1:15:08 Adam Yeah. And I've seen these people. I've seen their houses. There's nothing in there. You got like a TV tray and a bowling trophy. Who the hell you kidding? Get out of there. Jeff has a home filled with Emmys and keepsakes and he flees willingly.

1:15:28 Drew Yes.

1:15:29 Caller Thank you.

1:15:31 Jeff Probst I love how my life sounds.

1:15:33 Adam Not to mention his choker collection. Now that's true.

1:15:38 Jeff Probst I've got some decent chokers. I'm wearing a Tahitian Black Pearl tonight.

1:15:44 Drew Yes, I'm looking at that. Interesting.

1:15:45 Jeff Probst From the Marquesas. And I like to feel I kind of like to take credit for bringing this whole trend back with people wearing stuff around their necks. Yeah. I think it was gone until Survivor.

1:15:56 Adam No, it was absolutely gone. I mean, we can chronicle it. It had its heyday in the 70s with the Medallions. And then in the early 80s, the Puka Shell around its ugly head. And then it sort of was gone. And then a handful of greasy banged guys from the Midwest started sporting a couple of Puka Shells about six, eight years ago. But now it is back and firmly entrenched in the hearts and minds of all Americans. It's like I'm delivering a speech.

1:16:32 Jeff Probst It was a good one.

1:16:33 Adam That's how strongly I feel about Jeff's chokers.

1:16:36 Drew Nice.

1:16:37 Adam Thank you.

1:16:37 Drew Here's Michelle, who's 20.

1:16:40 Caller Yeah.

1:16:41 Drew Okay, Michelle, what's going on there?

1:16:43 Caller Hey, I had a question. I always get panic attacks when I'm having sex and I want to know why.

1:16:54 Adam That sounds like past abuse to me.

1:16:56 Drew Well, let's clarify this. What's the circumstance as those with a long-term monogamous partner or is this with sort of anonymous hookups or what's the situation?

1:17:06 Adam Is it during rapes?

1:17:07 Drew During rapes, I can understand. Oh, Adam, should we get into this a little bit?

1:17:12 Adam No, I'm too tired.

1:17:14 Caller Let's get going.

1:17:15 Drew Okay.

1:17:16 All right.

1:17:17 Drew So, Michelle, set the scene for us.

1:17:20 Caller Okay. Well, I was with my first boyfriend for two years and every time we would sleep together, halfway through, like clockwork, I'd get a panic attack.

1:17:31 Caller How old were you?

1:17:33 Caller I was 19.

1:17:35 Drew 19. Was this any kind of, were there flashbacks associated with this? Was a flashback to some earlier trauma?

1:17:41 Caller No, none at all. Just all of a sudden I'd start to cry and my muscles would start to quench up. And I used to get those attacks also when I would be under a lot of stress from the time I was about 10.

1:17:56 Drew 10? That's kind of unusual, right? A little stress of a 10-year-old? People don't usually talk in those terms. For somebody that's not been traumatized, it's hard to understand how you could have stress to the point of panic attack at 10.

1:18:08 Adam Well, how do we know she wasn't traumatized?

1:18:10 Drew She said, no, not at all. And I'm saying, well, obviously she was.

1:18:15 Caller I know I used to get panic attacks because I would think too much. And there were things going on with me earlier in my life.

1:18:25 Drew What happened? What happened?

1:18:27 Caller Well, I wasn't physically abused, but I started dieting when I was 10 and then I got an eating disorder when I was 13, like officially, and it sort of built up from there.

1:18:39 Drew But yes, you have a, you have an eating disorder. What happened before you were 10? You said some things happened earlier in your life.

1:18:45 Caller Oh, no, no. That's just when I started to, to get the, get panic attacks and just start sweating. And all right.

1:18:55 Adam Well, why, why would you start dieting at the age 10?

1:18:59 Caller Because I was told that I was fat.

1:19:02 Adam OK, so you're this is so you do you have professional parents? So they're like attorneys or something?

1:19:09 Caller No, they're teachers. No, I think my mom has they might have an image problem also, because she's been she's been dieting her whole life.

1:19:23 Drew I have no idea.

1:19:25 Adam Did she say they're an insurance?

1:19:27 Drew No, an image problem, the mom.

1:19:29 Adam No, no, before that, we're asking teachers is what she said.

1:19:33 Drew So what what Adam is going after is the sort of intrusive quality of the parenting that sort of when kids feel completely intruded upon and not valued as a separate person, it makes it difficult to develop internal systems of emotional regulation and panic is one of the things that develops eating disorders is one of the the sort of behaviors that manifest as the body the body tries to find ways to regulate emotions. So that's why Adam's going down that path. So these things have been treated, right? The eating disorder?

1:20:03 Caller Yeah, I've been been going through therapy for about two years now.

1:20:09 And how?

1:20:11 Drew And how come they're not treating the panic, too?

1:20:15 Caller I haven't told them about it.

1:20:17 Drew All right. Why don't you go ahead and tell them about that, Michelle? That's a big part of your syndrome here.

1:20:22 Caller It's really difficult for me to talk about that aspect of my life to somebody face to face.

1:20:29 Drew You mean being sexual?

1:20:30 Caller Yeah.

1:20:31 Drew Why is that so difficult for you?

1:20:38 Caller I'm not sure.

1:20:40 Drew You seem...

1:20:40 Adam It seems like there's more here than...

1:20:42 Drew Oh, yes. Yes, yes. But you seem perfectly...

1:20:45 Adam Where's your dad? Where's your dad?

1:20:50 Caller My dad's a wonderful father. He's very logical. He's a wonderful worker.

1:20:57 Adam Wow. High praise. It'll be great at his eulogy. He was a pragmatic, logical, hardworking drone of a man. He'll be missed. Wow.

1:21:09 Drew All right. Michelle.

1:21:10 Adam All right. So Michelle's... There's deep, deep things going on with Michelle. I don't know what they are, but go ahead, Drew.

1:21:16 Drew Well, I'm just wondering. She has no trouble expressing to us what has been happening to her during sexual acts. Why can't she be a little more open and honest with people whose job it is to be there to help her?

1:21:32 Caller I can't. For some reason, I can't talk to people face to face about my own sexual problems. It's like...

1:21:41 Drew Well, I'll tell you one of the things that this may or may not be you, but one of the things that I deal with all the time with people that are used to being very compulsive and very perfectionistic is when they have a genuine or tender need. That's when they have real trouble opening up to people because that's when they expect rejection and that's when the rejection really hurts. You feel ashamed because you've exposed yourself to a tender need. And the fact is, Michelle, you've got professionals working for you and they need you to express those tender needs in order to help you grow. So our advice to you is to get back in there, describe what's going on and let them help you. Very simple. That's that.

1:22:22 Caller Hey Adam, I have your news report.

1:22:24 Drew Oh, good. All right.

1:22:25 Caller Yeah, let's hear it. As of 4 o'clock today, more than 8.3 inches of rain had fallen downtown LA.

1:22:32 Drew Today?

1:22:33 Caller Today.

1:22:34 Drew How crazy is that?

1:22:35 Caller The National Weather Service reported that that lifts the season total to 33.09 inches, moving past the 32.7 inches that fell in the 1940 to 1941 season.

1:22:49 Drew What's this number three?

1:22:50 Caller The approaching the third highest figure, 33.44 inches in the 1977-78 season. The wettest season since records began kept in 1877 was 1883-84 when 38.18 inches of rain fell.

1:23:11 Adam So we only need like, I don't know, what?

1:23:14 Drew Four more inches.

1:23:15 Adam 13-16s to go into number two?

1:23:18 Caller Yeah.

1:23:18 Adam And to beat the, you know, I mean, that's nothing. We'll get that by noon tomorrow. Wow, we're gonna crush those 1870s people.

1:23:28 Jeff Probst It's gonna be awesome.

1:23:30 Adam I'm gonna do a dance on their grave. And was it really that accurate, you know, 130 years ago?

1:23:37 Drew That's what I wondered. Yeah, that's what I thought to myself. I wonder if it's just some bucket they stuck outside and they claimed of hell, yeah.

1:23:44 Adam Some drunken friar staggered out to a mule and just yelled back to some guy in a bell tower.

1:23:51 Drew And some guy urinated in the bucket. You know, it's really, yeah, it's just really inaccurate.

1:23:57 Adam Yeah, Drew's right. Most of that is 1880s hobo urine. Yes, yes. Which is the world's worst, world's worst title of a cologne. You think about it, it's like no worst name for an aftershave. 1880s hobo urine. But, you know, but it's an effective skin bracer. Works nicely aftershave.

1:24:23 Drew As an aftershave.

1:24:25 Adam Closes the pores.

1:24:26 Drew Always said that. Always said that. All right, time for a break.

1:24:29 Adam All right.

1:24:30 Drew All right. Jeff Probst, Julie Berry, Survivor, 1-800-LOVE-191 is our number here at Loveline. Adam and Charlotte, Drew here, and wherever the hell I am in underwater with waiting for Noah to arrive. And we'll be right back. Loveline, Jeff Probst, Julie Berry, Survivor, Adam and Charlotte. Adam, what's going on, buddy?

1:25:12 Adam Oh, you know, 3 a.m. Just worked 10 hours today. Just taking a chill pill.

1:25:21 Drew Are we gonna have our nightly session, or am I gonna have to let you off the hook tonight? No, because- Or let Jeff off the hook tonight, more importantly?

1:25:28 Adam Well, I've made notes, and we're gonna talk about it tomorrow night. Yeah, because I gotta catch an early flight out of here, and it's like 3 a.m. already, so I'm gonna have a snack.

1:25:38 Drew We're gonna have dinner tomorrow night with David Roos, who is the auction winner, who paid $15,000 to be a special guest on this show tomorrow night. Are you kidding? No kidding.

1:25:49 Jeff Probst This is a $15, $15, $15,000 seat I'm sitting in.

1:25:52 Drew You're sitting in it.

1:25:53 Jeff Probst I can see why, though.

1:25:54 Adam It's a good show. Not only that, thank you, Jeff, but there was actually another guy who was competing with him who somehow had a technical difficulty or something, and he's also offered up $15,000.

1:26:09 Jeff Probst Why do I know that name? Is that a?

1:26:11 Drew Yeah, it sounds like a common name, but it's just a guy. He's a, what was he, an astrophysicist or something teaching at UMass Amherst? Wow. Or not really a college, but hello. And he is going to have, he's going to come in and have dinner with us. And this was a fundraiser for the tsunami victims. Oh, wow.

1:26:27 Adam You know, the thing, the thing that's cool about both these guys is, I figured these guys could be some trust fund babies or they're going to be some guys who made a bunch of money on junk bonds and are looking for a good tax write-off. Neither one of these guys are rich by any, any definite, anyone's definition of rich. The one guy, the astrophysicist, who's going to be teaching at Harvard or something like that, that he gets 15 grand for a summer session.

1:26:57 Drew Right. And wow, higher salary.

1:26:59 Adam He's putting the whole thing up. And the other guy who's out of Seattle does some real estate, but needed to wait till like he paid his last credit card bill or something. So neither one of these guys are rich, which makes the gesture that much more positive in my mind.

1:27:19 Jeff Probst You know, we were talking, just during the break, about Drew's always on me to pass on to our doctors that when people come off Survivor, they need to be re-fed. What do you call it?

1:27:31 Drew Re-feeding.

1:27:31 Jeff Probst Yeah, carefully, because they go through this quite a shock to their bodies. And I was thinking about, laughing about, Julie kept a, when she got home from Survivor and she went deep into the show. So by the time she got home, it hadn't been very many days. She kept a diary. Her parents set her down and just asked her questions. Like, what was your experience like? What, how are you feeling emotionally? What happened is fascinating to watch somebody still in the state of this mental game that's so unrelenting the entire time. There are four tapes we watched of those of the little video things. Four tapes. It goes on for hours.

1:28:09 Drew Video diaries of your parents interviewing you.

1:28:11 Jeff Probst Yes, she is eating.

1:28:12 Me talking pretty much, though.

1:28:14 Drew Eating the entire time.

1:28:14 Jeff Probst She is eating the entire time.

1:28:17 It looks like I get bigger and bigger and bigger as the tape goes on.

1:28:21 Jeff Probst It's constantly and it follows her to the refrigerator. She gets more milk for more cereal and she goes, and then the other thing that you're not going to believe.

1:28:28 I spill some cereal. I pick up every little thing off the table. It's disgusting.

1:28:33 Adam Well, Julie, this is good. So did it really make you, I mean, it's been how many months now all together since? Since. It's been?

1:28:42 About six.

1:28:43 Adam About six months. And have you lost your appreciation or do you think you'll forever have that appreciation for the little things in life?

1:28:54 It was definitely very strong when I got out. I mean, I took a shower and I thought, look at all these things I can play with. There's soap, there's sponges, and all I needed was sand about a minute ago. So, but now, I mean, I'm that way kind of anyway, but right after, I was very sensitive to all those things.

1:29:10 Caller But she stood up and declared, as God is my witness, as God is my witness.

1:29:15 Adam Yeah, yeah, gone with the wind. But now you're back to normal where like you're yelling at the waiter about the calamari being soggy.

1:29:25 Drew Creating your own salad dressing.

1:29:26 I can wore it back into Survivor Land, definitely. But no, it took me about two months to get normal, back to normal life. And it was an interesting road which was documented and Jeff and I just watched it.

1:29:36 Adam But I think the message here is, and it's sort of like people that have near death experiences where they do that, I'm a changed man, that goes on for a few weeks and then it's right back to yelling at the assistant. Am I right, Drew? Isn't that sort of how people are?

1:29:53 Drew Yes, unless they really create persistent change. You know what I mean? Really do things that make evolution and growth possible. If they just expect change to occur because they've had an intense experience, it reverts. One quick, one, go ahead. I'm going to take one quick call before the end of this segment.

1:30:11 Adam I was just going to say at least Julie has that to call back on at any time in her life and say, you know, I am lucky no matter how far away you get away from the event.

1:30:21 Right, right.

1:30:22 Drew Sean, 20.

1:30:23 Caller Yeah, a quick question for Jeff. Hey, Jeff, big fan of yours. I watched your movie Finders Fee back in the day. I loved you doing stuff like that. Now, I was just wondering if you had any projects or anything in the works right now.

1:30:37 Jeff Probst Well, thanks for bringing up Finders Fee. That's cool. You know, I'm trying to get something going. I'm working on something right now, but it's, you know, it's kind of like, especially in Los Angeles, everybody's talk, everybody talks, everybody's got a thing here and a deal in development there. And I don't have anything going officially. I'm working toward it. And I would love to do it again because it was writing and directing a movie was definitely the most fulfilling creative experience I've ever had. And I would like to try it again. It's hard to do. It was, I look back on it now and realize what I didn't know and how lucky I was that somebody actually gave me money to make a movie.

1:31:20 Adam What was the budget?

1:31:22 Jeff Probst One and a half million.

1:31:23 Adam Wow.

1:31:24 Jeff Probst And we have a cast. You know, we have James Earl Jones and Robert Forrester and some really great young guys, Matthew Lillard and these guys.

1:31:30 Drew But Matthew Lillard, he's a good friend of ours.

1:31:32 Jeff Probst Yeah. Yeah. He's a good guy. So I had a great time and it was, you know, what else is weird looking back on it? Sean bringing this up. Survivor hit and I got this movie Greenlit really on the same day, literally on the same day, unrelated to each other, had nothing to do with me being on Survivor. And so I come back and we do this Survivor season and it culminates with 57 million people watching the finale and I'm going into pre-production on a movie starring James Earl Jones. I had no idea how good life was. I thought, wow, that's 57 million. That's I think that's a lot of people. And James Earl Jones, he was in Star Wars, right? He's cool. So, you know, now I look back on it and think, God, for a minute there, I actually had a movie going and a TV thing going.

1:32:20 Adam Well, now you just have a TV thing going.

1:32:22 Jeff Probst But you know what I mean? It takes that perspective.

1:32:25 Drew Yes.

1:32:26 Jeff Probst It's almost the opposite question you asked Julie. It took, it's taken me years to realize.

1:32:30 Drew To appreciate what you had.

1:32:31 Caller Wow. Yeah.

1:32:32 Drew We got to go to break here, Adam. Do you want to say good night to these guys?

1:32:34 Adam Yeah, because I'm going to bed.

1:32:37 Caller Yeah. Good night, Jeff.

1:32:39 Adam Sorry I missed you. I'll see you next time you're in studio. I'm, you know, I'm a big fan and I'll be watching Thursday night.

1:32:46 Jeff Probst Right on. Good talking to you again.

1:32:48 Adam Take care, guys.

1:32:49 Jeff Probst We'll be right back.

1:32:50 Adam Good night.

1:32:50 Caller All right, guys. Bottom line, here's the deal. Looking to hook up. Sick of wasting time with the wrong person.

1:32:56 Caller One call is all you need to make.

1:32:57 Jeff Probst Call the Dateline.

1:32:58 Caller 877-889-DATE.

1:33:04 Caller Love Line with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew. 1-800-LOVE-191.

1:33:12 Caller This hour brought you apart by acts.

1:33:14 Caller Experience the acts effect.

1:33:29 Drew Well, that about does it for Loveline. Jeff, Julie, thank you for coming in here this evening.

1:33:33 Jeff Probst Thanks for having us.

1:33:33 Drew We appreciate it. You are welcome back anytime. Adam describes you, Jeff, as a dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear friend of the show.

1:33:40 Jeff Probst Oh, I like that.

1:33:41 Drew Yes, it's wonderful. And we appreciate you listening and supporting it, and good luck on the next... Yeah, thank you. It's two more years for sure you're gonna do.

1:33:49 Jeff Probst Two more seasons.

1:33:49 Drew Two more seasons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm afraid of it. Julie, good luck. Good luck with the MFT program.

1:33:53 Thank you.

1:33:54 Drew I don't know if you're just divulging it on the air. Can we talk about that real quick?

1:33:56 Yeah, I wanna go get my Masters in Marriage and Family Therapy.

1:33:59 Drew Fantastic. I will get you a job. So Adam is not with us. He'll be back in the studio tomorrow night. We've got Seth Green coming up later in the week and we have the winner of the auction for the Tsunami Victims tomorrow night. And in the meantime, this is Dr. Drew on behalf of Adam Corolla saying Mahalo.

1:34:15 Caller This has been Loveline.

1:34:19 Jeff Probst The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station.

1:34:27 Adam The producer for Loveline is Aningold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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