Episode 1000655965241

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1:20 Drew Adam Stryker.

1:21 Stryker Anderson, good job over there, man. That was good, this is Loveline. I'm Stryker, in for Adam. I was working today at K-Rock doing the show here at about 5 o'clock. Anne runs in, you're doing Loveline tonight. I'm like, cool, Anthony Kiedis is on. Even better. What's happening, man? I'm outstanding, I'm excited. I feel energized right now.

1:45 Adam Really?

1:46 Stryker Yeah, I had a great day and it just keeps on going.

1:48 Adam Let's go all night.

1:49 Stryker We're going?

1:50 Drew I will. No, no, no way.

1:56 Adam No?

1:56 Stryker All right, find a 12. I'll go home and I'll go to sleep.

1:59 Drew All right.

1:59 Stryker I'll play a video game, watch TV.

2:01 Drew I'm looking at the cover of Anthony's book, Scar Tissue. Is this underwear on your head?

2:05 Adam That is a t-shirt.

2:07 Drew A t-shirt, I get it.

2:08 Adam You're fantasizing wildly over there.

2:10 Stryker I thought it was a surfboard.

2:11 Drew What? Kind of. Behind him?

2:12 Stryker Yeah, behind you.

2:13 Drew I see there's something under his arm here and it goes up over his head.

2:15 Adam Okay, this is like Warshack.

2:17 Drew It's radio, bad radio. That's all Stryker and I know how to do.

2:21 Stryker Bad radio?

2:22 Drew Yeah, for the most part. If they're in the studio, no one else knows about it.

2:25 Stryker Anthony Kiedis, you guys have to know, lead singer of the Red Hot Chili Peppers from LA, Fairfax High. I went to a former, or I went to LA USD School, Pally High, and that's where you met all your bandmates, right?

2:39 Adam At Fairfax.

2:40 Stryker Right.

2:40 Adam Yeah, because I got kicked out of University High School.

2:42 Stryker Oh, you did?

2:43 Adam Thanks goodness, yes.

2:44 Stryker And then because of that, that's how you met Flea.

2:47 Adam Right, these funny little twists in life that lead you along the way.

2:51 Stryker Everything happens for a reason, do you think?

2:53 Adam Well that happened for a good reason, because had I gone to Uni, I would have never met Flea or Halal. Right. And I wouldn't have had this whole kind of musical experience.

3:01 Stryker The book is called Scar Tissue, which was a huge, gigantic song for you guys. And it came out in October, and it's doing really well. And there's so many unbelievable stories in here, which maybe I can just set some up.

3:16 Adam Have you read that book?

3:17 Stryker I have not read the book. But I've browsed it, I've checked out some of the pictures are amazing in it. I've seen you as a kid and seen you with your dad. I've seen the shot of you in that really cool hat with the big buttons on your jacket, which you didn't want in the book, which ended up in the book, I guess. It's a really beautiful shot. Do you know which one I'm talking about? You're very, very young.

3:37 Adam Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

3:37 Drew Same thing, please don't break the ice.

3:39 Adam Yeah.

3:40 Stryker That's cool. I think there's a picture of you as really young. I don't know how old, 12, 13, smoking a joint.

3:47 Adam 11.

3:47 Stryker 11 years old.

3:48 Adam Yeah.

3:49 Stryker And now, how did that joint end up in your hand? Was that dad?

3:53 Adam It just flew into my mouth.

3:54 Stryker Flew into the mouth.

3:55 Adam I was just sitting there, it flew into my mouth.

3:57 Stryker It wasn't a little birdie or a dad?

3:59 Adam No, I just got off the plane from Michigan. I asked my mother when I was about 11, can I please go live with my dad in California because it's really cool out there and it's fun and I love my dad and I'm a little boy and I want to go be on the West Coast. And she said, okay, that's a bummer for me, but go do what you got to do. And as soon as I got there, I was a no drugs guy. I was this kid who was like, I'll never do drugs. And I sat down at the kitchen table with my dad and there was this young girl there and he broke out the top to a dictionary box and he rolled up a marijuana cigarette and he started smoking and I was like, wow, that looks good, let me try that. He's like, all right.

4:37 Drew How old were you?

4:38 Adam 11. Trauma, trauma, ooh. And we smoked it and it felt good and it was fun and that was the beginning.

4:47 Stryker And from that point on, in terms of marijuana use, was it pretty consistent at 11 through 12 through 13?

4:53 Adam It got real consistent. I became that guy who was pretty motivated to get high every day, but not immediately in the beginning, I liked it. I felt like I had discovered some sort of magical key to the universe.

5:05 Drew Right, that's usually how pot makes people pee, you feel when they get addicted to it.

5:09 Adam I wanted to tell all my friends, I was like, you guys, you gotta try this stuff. It's fun, we'll jump around and climb trees.

5:16 Stryker Where in LA were you living?

5:17 Adam West Hollywood on Palm Avenue.

5:20 Stryker And your dad, he was an actor, right?

5:23 Adam At that time he was not. He would soon become an actor. About three years down the line, he would study with Lee Strasberg and become an actor.

5:29 Stryker Your dad, I know he's still alive. He works with you guys or he works for your website, the Chili Peppers website?

5:34 Adam He runs it, he's been running it for a while.

5:36 Stryker Oh wow, really? That's a huge job.

5:39 Adam It is, and he kinda took it on as his onus. Took his kind of payback, cause we started sort of living this symbiotic father-son relationship late in life. I started helping him out because he moved back to Michigan and then he's like, okay, well I would help you out. I'll run the fan club.

5:56 Stryker So when you were younger, I guess it was more of friends than dad-son?

6:00 Adam Well, I looked up to him like a father. To me, he needed to be this perfect, heroic, great figure of a man, cause he was my dad. But our day-to-day relationship was very much like friends, like close friends. He still...

6:15 Drew He looks like a young, like a, he's like a kid himself. Look at him. Yeah. He's not an adult.

6:21 Adam Hey, what are you saying?

6:22 Drew At that time, I mean he is now, but...

6:24 Adam Not so much now.

6:26 Drew Now it's cool. We were 16, adults, good.

6:29 Adam Yeah.

6:30 Stryker Anthony Kiedis is here, by the way, on Loveline. Dr. Drew, to my right, I'm Stryker, filling in for Adam. How many records have the Chili Peppers put out? About nine or 10 now?

6:40 Adam Every time someone asks me, I have to count it up. I think it's eight or nine. Depends if you count the EP, which you really shouldn't.

6:46 Stryker The Chili Peppers, by the way, your band, I don't want to say invented. I don't know if that's the right word, but you were doing the funk, rock, hip hop, creating your own sound. George Clinton asked you to even work with George Clinton. He produced your second record?

6:59 Adam He did.

6:59 Stryker Yeah. Before anyone knew what it was. That's good. And you keep on doing it, but still creating it in a different sort of way. And not every song is that formula that you guys do.

7:11 Adam No, hopefully whatever we're doing now and next will also be before anybody knows what it is. Right. Yeah.

7:18 Stryker Are you guys, as a band, off the book for a minute here, cause I mean, I'm such a huge fan of the band. Are you guys shocked ever that it's still going so freaking strong?

7:28 Adam I'd be shocked if it wasn't. Because we love it so much and the ingredients are so good together and there's so much love in the experience still. And John is such a devoted musician. You know, just possessed with learning and growing and evolving and doing something new. And Flea is the same. You know, when I met Flea, he was 15 years old, he was playing trumpet and he's never lost the fire to play music. You know, then he found the bass guitar and then he plays upright bass and he goes back to trumpet and now he's got a studio in his house. And so kind of being in the midst of people that are, you know, impassioned with sound and new music, I would be shocked if it didn't keep rolling.

8:16 Stryker When, now back to the book and your youth and Fairfax High and Flea was so into the trumpet at the time, how did you guys-

8:25 Drew Make a band.

8:26 Stryker Make a band and first connect at Fairfax because stereotyping a trumpet player in high school wasn't the coolest dude in school.

8:34 Adam Right, we started off by getting in a fight. The day we met. Yeah, being sort of exiled from Westwood and in this new territory, I knew no one at school. And I made a friend with a little nerdy guy named Tony Schur and he was my one and only friend. And Flea came up who was then called Mike and he pushed my one and only friend in school. I was like, if you push him again, you're gonna pay.

9:00 Stryker Flea pushed your friend.

9:01 Adam Yeah, Flea pushed my friend. And he's like, what? I've known this kid for five years. You can't tell me not to push him. I've been pushing him for five years, who are you? And I was like, I'll be your best friend for life. My name's Anthony, yeah. Damn.

9:12 Stryker And then didn't you end up making out with his sister at one point? Flea's sister?

9:16 Adam Yeah.

9:18 Stryker It's him.

9:19 Drew How do you like that one?

9:21 Adam He suggested it. Yeah, he's like, I've got the sister. She's a couple years older. When she comes back from Australia, you gotta meet her.

9:31 Stryker Wait, was she older then?

9:32 Adam Yeah, older than. A couple years older than me. Right. And then we didn't ever think about playing music together really sort of professionally or formally or anything like that. We did go on a trip to Yosemite at the age of 16 with no gear whatsoever, just climbing over mountains. And we started making up songs. We started singing together and making up words and melodies and phrases and just bizarre rhyming stuff. And that was really the beginning of our musical relationship. But it wouldn't be till about another four years that someone else actually suggested to Flea and Hillel, hey, hello, Anthony, put him in your band.

10:13 Stryker Right. Did your dad who seems like just kind of an out there guy have any influence on your musical taste growing up?

10:19 Drew So far, he's insulted his dad in a way possible.

10:22 Adam No, no, no, no, no, I'd kick his ass. Yeah, it was a good thing. He did, cause he had great taste in music. And he was actually one of the first punk rockers I knew in LA in the late seventies when everyone was still kind of stuck on classic rock. My dad somehow dialed himself into the Sex Pistols and all these people coming over from England and he introduced me to K-Rock. Right. He really did. We had this white globular radio and we would listen to Rodney together. Yeah.

10:54 Drew This show, Loveline, followed Rodney for years.

10:57 Stryker How long have you been on?

10:59 Drew 20 years. 20 years. Something, 22 years. Loveline used to be from midnight to 3 a.m. after Rodney.

11:05 Stryker Sunday, Sunday. Sunday, Sunday. Man, we're talking to Anthony Kiedis here on Loveline. Scar Tissue is the book.

11:12 Drew Stryker was a zygote then, by the way.

11:14 Stryker Yes, he was. I first heard of the Red Hot Chili Peppers from a school teacher of mine when I was going to Pali. Tim Doherty, you know, she teaches at LA, US, at LA High. And he's like, you gotta listen to this band, the Chili Peppers. And this guy, so eclectic and such a great guy. And I still talk to him, email him, like, if you can't believe what's going on with me. And it's just, I'll never forget my introduction to your band from him.

11:39 Adam It's nice to have a teacher like that.

11:40 Stryker Definitely. And it's also good.

11:42 Drew Your parents are still past, but.

11:44 Stryker My parents? What are you talking about?

11:45 Drew Career radio, how dare you?

11:47 Stryker Everything's going fine. All right, let's take some calls here with Anthony Kiedis. We'll talk more about the book. There's some really good stories in there. Daniel, you're 14 on Loveline.

11:54 Drew No, no, Angie. Angie 22, I beg your pardon. Forget this.

11:57 Stryker Oh, that's nothing?

11:58 Drew We're here. Angie. Yeah, hi. From the OC. What's going on?

12:05 Stryker Not much.

12:09 Drew Good. You're on with Anthony Kiedis.

12:11 Adam Speak your piece.

12:12 Stryker Hi, Anthony. Nice to meet you. See, I have a problem with my boyfriend. We've been together for about a year and I recently found some emails that disturbed me that he had been sending to these like internet transsexual escort services. And I was wondering if that makes him, I mean, if he could still be straight and still be interested in that kind of stuff.

12:41 Drew How would you feel if they were just sending emails to escort services of women?

12:46 In general, it's bad.

12:47 Stryker I mean, it's bad on so many levels.

12:49 Drew Yeah, Angie, I just think it's bad on multiple levels. You're right on there. Just stay with that thought.

12:54 Adam Could I just ask why were you checking his email in the first place?

12:59 Stryker Well, he gave me his password for some reason or another, it's something to do with some eBay transaction or something, and I was curious and I just looked through his sent mail.

13:07 Drew Do you think he's maybe setting her up to find this? Maybe he wants to kind of.

13:11 Adam Introduce a whole new.

13:13 Drew Or maybe, is the relationship going okay?

13:15 He's trying to hide it.

13:16 Drew Is your relationship going okay with him?

13:20 Adam If you start opening up people's email and the drivers, you have to be prepared to find some hidden weirdness that we all seem to have.

13:28 Stryker I know, maybe I'd find something that he sent to some girl, but not to like.

13:32 Adam Well, now you found.

13:33 Stryker Not to the transvestite in West Hollywood.

13:34 Drew But I wonder if he was trying to either, A, bring this up to you in some way to try to include you in it, or B, scare you away.

13:43 Stryker Well, he wasn't upset that I looked at his email.

13:46 Drew That's what I'm saying. He must know.

13:49 Stryker At first, he tried to completely deny it. But I mean, his pictures left right there on the email. So he couldn't really deny it. And he said he was really embarrassed and ashamed. And he.

13:59 Adam So is your question, are you wondering if he's straight, if he's gay, if he's into Chinese?

14:04 Stryker Yeah.

14:05 Adam Yeah, I don't think that that, you know, you can be awfully damn curious and look at just about everything in the net and not necessarily have to be.

14:11 Drew No, no, he's not looking. He's sending emails to the escort services to meet up with people. It was pretty heavy.

14:17 Stryker Have you? Now, obviously you're checking his emails. What, hold on.

14:21 Stryker The ones that I found.

14:23 Stryker Angie, what did he do?

14:24 Drew Angie, why are you even thinking about, wait, why are we even talking? Why are we having this conversation?

14:27 Stryker I wonder what he did, why she's checking his emails? Like, what did he do to get her suspicious?

14:30 Drew No, no, he said there's some transactions with eBay that he was supposed to check on.

14:34 Stryker Right, but then she went into the emails.

14:36 Stryker And I went over because I'm a girl. I'm curious, I don't know. I thought maybe he had something else.

14:40 Drew Boys aren't curious, but they're not. That's the way girls are. Angie, how is this guy generally? Tell us more about him, is he okay? The relationship is good, he's available, sex is normal. What, what, what?

14:49 Stryker Sex is normal, everything's, I mean, well, I don't know. He's always been really into anal sex.

14:55 Drew He is into anal sex.

14:57 Stryker Yeah. And I never have been, but I mean, I was willing to do it for him, but.

15:02 Adam You capitulate.

15:03 Drew This has a slightly bogus quality to this call, but is this for real, right Angie, for real call?

15:09 Stryker For real call? Yeah.

15:11 Stryker Why, cause you have the TV in the background.

15:13 Stryker Well, he said he was over it and he was interested in it a long time ago and he was over it and he was really embarrassed and he wanted to talk to me about it, but he couldn't cause he's embarrassed. But then like last week, I looked again and I found more and I looked at the cookies on our computer and I found that that's exclusively the type of porn that he looks at on the internet. He doesn't look at anything else, but.

15:33 Drew Transsexuals.

15:34 Stryker Transsexuals.

15:35 Drew Male to female or female to male?

15:37 Stryker Just, they're just pictures of, you know, guys with like chicks with dicks and.

15:46 Stryker Look, I got a lot of things on my computer. I don't necessarily email.

15:50 Drew Where did Angie go to finishing school anyway? Where did she finish? She dropped the chicks with dicks part. That's the name of half the sites.

15:57 They're all called chicks with dicks.

15:58 Adam I get it all the time.

16:00 Drew There's some great films out there. Thank you, thank you for enlightening us. Okay, well listen, I don't know why we spent so much time with Angie, because this guy is- It's a hot topic. It's one thing if he is into weird porn, that already is like, you think you don't exist in a vacuum, but if the rest of the relationship is okay, what are you gonna do? But he's actually emailing escort services and trying to meet people. That's out of balance. Yeah, the escort thing is crazy. I don't care who he's planning to meet up with. You got a problem with this guy, and I don't think this relationship is gonna survive this. You gotta look very carefully at why, A, you'd be in such denial as to kind of try to maintain this relationship, and B, why you're attracted to guys like this.

16:34 Stryker She'd be more pissed, I think, if it was just straight girl escort.

16:37 Drew Yeah, that's what it seems like, just a girl who had an intimate conversation with him. She'd be like, oh my God, he's cheating, as opposed to him meeting up to have sex with escorts.

16:44 Stryker No, chicks with dicks.

16:46 Drew Oh God.

16:46 Adam Yeah, it's a little less tangible when it's chicks with dicks. Yeah.

16:50 Stryker Number two. Daniel, 14. What's going on?

16:56 Drew, I don't know if you remember me, but I've called in a couple of times, and Adam's gotten kind of angry. I'm the kid with the huge eyes who idolizes him.

17:04 Drew Oh, nice. Well, thanks for calling back.

17:06 Yeah, no problem. Anthony, I saw you, I was like two weekends ago at the bridge concert at Shoreline. Yeah, you were awesome.

17:16 Adam Thank you.

17:17 Yeah.

17:17 Adam It's an awesome event.

17:19 What?

17:20 Adam It's an awesome event. The bridge school is just ridiculously beautiful.

17:23 Oh yeah, it was cool. Are you gonna be making any more CDs? Cause I know you guys haven't broken up, but when's your next CD plan to come out?

17:33 Adam Well, we're writing it now, and then we'll be recording it sort of December, January, February. And the way things run in this world, it probably will come out in the beginning of summer.

17:45 Stryker Do you think you guys will work with Rick Rubin?

17:47 Adam I think so.

17:48 Stryker Nice.

17:48 Adam We're kind of planning on it.

17:50 Stryker Excellent. That's unbelievable. How often do you talk to Flea in the pre going into the studio part of putting your album together?

17:58 Adam Well, I talk to him every day because we go to practice every day. I mean, we haven't for the last week, but generally that's what we do. We get together and play music every day. Nice.

18:06 Stryker Where are we going? Josh, 18 on Loveline. What's up with Anthony Kiedis?

18:11 Wow, I'm on.

18:12 Adam Hey, you're on.

18:13 Anthony, I read your book, Scar Tissue. I must tell you it's the best book I ever read.

18:17 Drew Nice.

18:18 Adam Thank you.

18:19 Stryker What was your favorite part of the book?

18:22 Let's see, my favorite part? Honestly, I liked listening about how you grew up. I guess I never knew so much about you.

18:30 Drew Isn't, it's labor of love writing a book, isn't it?

18:33 Adam Yeah, you think it's gonna take a couple of months and it ends up taking a year.

18:37 Drew And it's, you know, it's not, you're not getting money for it. You're just, it's sort of an expression. It's, you know what I mean? It's a, most books are not a way to make money, usually. People have a, they have a way to make money. They paid me. Well, that's good. Because usually they just want to excuse you.

18:51 Stryker His story is more interesting than yours, Drew. I'm sorry to tell you.

18:54 Adam Have you guys seen Sideways?

18:56 Drew No.

18:56 No.

18:58 Drew Josh?

18:59 Adam Yes? Thank you for the high compliment. I appreciate it. I'm glad you read it. And that's kind of why I wrote it was to describe childhood.

19:05 I'm such a big fan of the band. I started listening around like 98, 99 and ever since I've been hooked.

19:12 Stryker Cool. That's amazing when there's people about 18 years old who don't know about some of the old, old stuff. And they started when like, say Californication came out.

19:21 Yeah, but I tell you though, some of the stuff you guys have before, it's just amazing. Like when I heard the demo for Green Heaven, that song just speaks to me.

19:29 Stryker This guy's on the ball.

19:31 Drew You're gay.

19:32 Stryker Easy.

19:32 Drew I didn't say that.

19:33 Adam He didn't say that. No, thank you. Demo for Green Heaven, paid for it out of my own pocket.

19:39 Stryker Does, we want to talk to Josh somewhere?

19:41 Drew No.

19:41 Stryker You gotta give him some love.

19:42 Adam Bye, Josh.

19:42 Stryker All right, Anne, what's up? You're 23 on Loveline.

19:46 Drew You gotta understand, when Adam's not here, I want to get through calls. It's such a free, a liberating experience.

19:51 Stryker I don't know how many calls I'm down for at this point though. That's good, just go easy.

19:56 Drew Anne.

19:56 Caller My question is for Anthony.

20:00 Adam Don't be surprised if Drew, go ahead.

20:04 Caller My father has hepatitis C and can't take interferon because his white blood cell count is too low. And I read.

20:12 Drew They're usually using things to supplement the white blood cell count with the interferon.

20:18 Caller As I understand, his doctor doesn't have him on anything right now. And we're not really sure where it's gonna go from this point on.

20:28 Drew Is he sick?

20:30 Caller He, he doesn't tell us that he is.

20:34 Drew Is he bleeding from his stomach?

20:36 Caller We're not sure. He's acting like it's no big deal.

20:40 Drew Do his legs swell up, does his belly swell up?

20:44 Caller His belly is a little swollen, but I'm not sure if it's from that. His belly's always been kind of round. Although, my question is Anthony mentioned in his book that he was taking something called ozone, some sort of herbal supplement. And I wanted to know if he could tell me a little bit more about that or where I could research it, find more.

21:06 Drew Oops, didn't mean to do that.

21:09 Adam Is she gone?

21:09 Drew She's still there.

21:11 Adam Okay. Well, it's not an herbal supplement, it's actually a gas and it's illegal in the state of California. So I would never do it in this state, but places like New York, you can take ozone either intravenously or what do they call it when you take it in your ass? Drew, what's the medical? Rectal. Rectal. You can take it rectally. And what it is, it just makes it difficult for virus to live in your bloodstream. They use it to clean pools. They cleanse the water of pools, same kind of principle. Bacteria and virus have a hard time living in an ozonated environment. But that's if you don't have it so bad. I had it and I actually got rid of it. They can no longer find the viral count in my body. They find the antibody for it, which says that I had it at one time. But I also took tons of herbs and I eat really good and I exercise and I prayed about it and it kind of went on its merry way. So I think I'm kind of an exception. It depends on how bad you have it and what kind of lifestyle you're leading. But yeah, go on the internet.

22:17 Drew The one clear thing is if you use alcohol and have hepatitis C, you will get cirrhosis. Screwed. End of story.

22:23 Adam Yeah.

22:23 Drew So the most- He's been sober for that one. That helps. Oh, that helps. No alcohol, right?

22:29 Caller No, he's in a program.

22:32 Drew All right, you always gotta check. People have different definitions of sobriety. Well, good luck, Ann. It's a tough condition. And still, there are multiple research protocols out there. And I think you ought to take advantage of that and see a hepatologist. I want to take a break?

22:46 Stryker Yeah, let's take a break. There's a, when I was filling in for Jed recently, we do this Catch of the Day, and you guys redid the song Brandy in the live from Hyde Park.

22:55 Adam Yeah, we did.

22:55 Stryker Maybe we can play it. Can we throw that on?

22:57 Adam Please, oh yeah, please do.

22:58 Stryker Okay, let's take a break. Let's come back, play Brandy.

23:01 Drew Yep, perfect.

23:01 Stryker And then maybe you can tell the story about share and nudity in a bed or something like that.

23:07 Drew What? Did you tell me that story?

23:09 Stryker I may have warned you about it, right? Yeah, okay, good.

23:13 Drew Sounds interesting.

23:14 Stryker All right, well, we'll talk to more with the-

23:15 Adam People love share. It's incredible.

23:17 Stryker People probably love her naked as well. Anthony Kiedis is here. Drew, I'm Stryker. More Loveline after this. Alright, we're back here on Loveline. 1-800-LOVE-191 is a number. Dr. Drew, Stryker, and Anthony Kiedis from the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Scar Tissue, the book is out, and Live from Hyde Park, the live CD, which you guys put out, tons of songs on there.

23:55 Adam Yeah, including Brandy. Yes. From 1972, a band called Looking Glass, and we also covered a song called Black Cross by 45 Grave, which came out sometime in the early 80s. Yeah, we decided to cover the spectrum from sort of easy listening to punk rock.

24:13 Stryker Well, you guys have a nice spin on Brandy. When I first got this CD, it got to spin at least a few months since I had it, but Brandy is really cool. You guys check it out. Let's play the Brandy done by Chili Peppers on Loveline.

24:25 Adam Hit it.

27:43 Drew Yeah, it's awesome.

27:44 Stryker So good.

27:45 Drew What is that from? What's the CD?

27:47 Adam It's a band called Looking, oh, the RCD is live at Hyde Park.

27:51 Drew There is not enough live stuff out there.

27:54 Stryker Was that the biggest crowd you guys have played to? Or was it the Woodstock shows or ones that I probably don't even know about?

27:59 Adam The biggest, the biggest is not always the best.

28:02 Drew But this is so cool hearing that here in the back room.

28:05 Stryker Yeah, so strong right there.

28:06 Adam Yeah, the crowd volume was inspired by a live Kiss record, which John Fraschante is a fan of and he was so into that record and being able to hear the crowd, he's like, let's turn the crowd up.

28:17 Drew So the CD is called Live at Hyde Park?

28:19 Adam Yep, yep. Yeah, the biggest crowd we ever played for.

28:21 Drew You gotta play that some more during your day time.

28:23 Stryker Yeah, seriously.

28:24 Adam Would you please? Was in Brazil, where I think all of South America came.

28:31 Stryker Chili Peppers, that was brandy. Obviously, it's a remake. Anthony Kiedis is here and just before the break, I mentioned, all I said was share. Drew looked at me, Anthony's like, can you please tell the story about you and Sharon, you growing up?

28:46 Adam Yeah, people, I've told the story several times in the last few months, just because, and I thought it was just another story in there, but it turns out people- Yeah, people like it. When I was a kid in the early 70s, my father's ex-girlfriend, Connie Foreman, started going out with Sonny Bono. So I became friends with Sonny Bono because that was sort of my surrogate mother on the West Coast. And one night-

29:09 Drew Sonny Bono and-

29:10 Adam He had just-

29:11 Drew A girlfriend. Right.

29:13 Adam My father's ex-girlfriend.

29:14 Drew Was he a good guy, Sonny?

29:15 Adam Great guy. Yeah. For me at that time, he took good care of me. He was very kind of-

29:22 Drew I've heard he's a good guy, yeah.

29:23 Adam Maternal and thoughtful and concerned for a young person like myself. But they wanted to go out one night and Sonny was actually still sharing an enormous house with Cher, even though they were split.

29:35 Drew How weird.

29:35 Adam And seeing other people. They were-

29:37 Drew Was the daughter there then too?

29:39 Adam Yep. Chastity, yeah.

29:41 Drew Wild. Yeah.

29:43 Adam And so Sonny and Connie wanted to go out and they said, Cher, can you watch Tony while we're going out? She's like, of course.

29:50 Stryker How old are you at the time now?

29:51 Adam I think I'm like 13 or 14 years old. And we're hanging out in her bedroom and we're talking and it's nice. And I have no crazy sexual interest in the woman because she's treating me like a kid and I'm treating her like an adult. And it gets time for bed and she goes into the bathroom and I kind of start tucking myself in the bed.

30:12 Drew In her bedroom.

30:13 Adam Her bedroom, her bathroom. And the door is open and off come the clothes and I'm just like, oh. And my memory over the years had been that she came back to bed naked and got into bed and there was no funny stuff. We both went to sleep. And so that's how we were in the book. But then when I called her up to get permission, she's like, hello, I put my pajamas on and came back to bed. I have a little wishful kid. So.

30:41 Drew Or maybe it was a see-through gown or something you weren't used to seeing.

30:44 Adam And future printings, it will be with her in her pajamas. But she did sign off, God bless her.

30:51 Stryker You had no sexual urges when you saw her naked, but you had had sex by that time in your life, correct?

30:58 Adam Correct.

31:00 Drew And you're 14? 13.

31:01 Adam I started having sex irregularly at the age of 11.

31:04 Stryker Ooh, can we talk about the first time that you had sex? Which is all in the book, by the way.

31:09 Adam It was traumatic.

31:11 Drew Oh, I'm sure.

31:11 Adam It was.

31:12 Drew I'm sure. Ah, I'm not kidding.

31:14 Stryker Well, listen to this story, Dr. Drew.

31:15 Drew Your brain isn't wired for that yet. It's not online with that.

31:18 Stryker Well, he is.

31:19 Drew I mean, you'll manage, but.

31:20 Stryker Shocked by this story a little bit probably, but can you just relay how you lost your virginity, which is all in the book and in more detail in scar tissue, by the way. We're talking to Anthony Kiedis.

31:29 Adam The way that I lost my virginity, I would not even recommend, but for some reason, from about the age of 10, I started having these very powerful fantasies about being with a woman. And I started thinking about naked women and Jesus, I want to take off their clothes and I want to touch them and I want to see what they feel like. And it kind of preoccupied my mind. So when I moved out to California and I saw my father having very sort of promiscuous lifestyle in 1973, I was like, wow, this is actually not only in my mind, but it's reality right in my very own house. Yeah. And I was drinking and taking quailudes at that time of my life. At 10?

32:14 Drew 11.

32:14 Adam 11.

32:15 Drew Oh, forgive me.

32:15 Adam Cusp of 12. It was a month before my 12th birthday.

32:19 Drew By the way, my kids turned 12 this week.

32:20 Adam And they're probably not taking quailudes.

32:25 Drew Totally freaking freaked out.

32:27 Adam Different time, different place, different set of mentalities.

32:31 Drew Thank you, thank you. Not working, I'm still freaked out.

32:34 Adam I got high and horny. And I said to my dad, is there any way that I could possibly sleep with your girlfriend tonight, please? And he looked at me and he was also out to lunch on alcohol and pills. And he's like, I'll have to run that by her. And I was like, go ahead, run it by her, run it by her. And she was like, okay. And I was like, thank you, dad. I'll have her back, you know, don't you worry. And-

33:02 Drew Take it out for a spin.

33:03 Adam Yeah, and it was too much. It was too much for my little 11-year-old self. It was like, she was very kind and giving and considerate, all things considered. And, but she was a sweetheart.

33:17 Drew Yeah, but just think about that woman now. Think about, you know what an 11-year-old looks like? And what an 11-year-old is? Forget what it looks like, but imagine a grown woman doing that with an 11-year-old.

33:28 Adam She was 18. Really? She was only 18.

33:31 Drew She was sexually abused. She was sexually abused.

33:36 Adam Yeah, so, you know, it wasn't a horrible experience. I didn't go, oh, I'll never do that again. But it was overwhelming. And I waited about another six months before I tried it again.

33:48 Stryker Was it hard to write the book? Not in terms of there's so many pages, but in terms of expressing how you felt and relaying these stories that a lot of them are probably, you know, personal and close to you.

33:58 Adam Yes, but I had relayed them so many times, especially because of being in recovery.

34:03 Drew I was gonna say, you notice the way he tells the stories? These are very, very intense stories, but they're his. Right. You can tell that they belong to you. And this is what happens in recovery in those fourth and fifth steps, is you tell it and tell it and people accept it with you and it becomes yours.

34:18 Adam Yeah, and you kind of get rid of the embarrassment, the shame, the hangouts.

34:22 Drew Well, it's your life, it's yours, it's your story.

34:24 Adam Yeah.

34:25 Drew And it just is.

34:26 Adam So telling it again in the book wasn't all that, quote unquote, cathartic, whatever, it was just, I had to decide at a certain point, do I wanna say everything or do I wanna say most everything?

34:36 Drew And again, I wanna highlight it because it's so exquisitely important for our listeners, or at least our callers, who call in in the throes of these traumas and wanna know how to manage them, what to do with it, this is the goal. Where you're at is the goal with where they need to take this material. They had to make what's called a cohesive narrative out of, make it their own story.

34:56 Adam It's very hard.

34:57 Stryker You can read all the stories once again, scar tissue, Anthony's book, he's here, Anthony Kiedis from the Chili Peppers, LA Band. Love that, representing the West Side, Fairfax High. Where we going, Drew?

35:08 Drew We gotta take calls?

35:09 Adam Yeah.

35:11 Drew All right, Maria 27.

35:14 Adam Hello, Maria.

35:15 Stryker Hi, hey Anthony, I just wanted to tell you, I loved your book, I just finished it a couple weeks ago.

35:20 Adam Thank you, Maria, unlike Stryker, but go ahead.

35:24 Stryker Hold on, Maria, Anthony, I promise you, you have my word, I'm gonna read it now. I mean, no.

35:27 Drew Let's try something, wait, let me try to experiment. Stryker, you read my book? You see, Stryker, you're not alone, you're not alone.

35:35 Stryker Yes.

35:35 Adam Okay, yes, all right, yeah. I'm just winding you up.

35:42 Drew Thanks, Drew.

35:43 Stryker I just think you've got a really beautiful spirit, it was just such a great book. Thank you. And my question for you is did you ever hear from the girl from Kentucky since the book came out?

35:55 Adam My girlfriend is sitting in the other room right now. No, I never did, I never did and sometimes that's the best ending.

36:02 Drew It's an honest program of recovery.

36:04 Adam Oh, I know.

36:05 Drew It's a...

36:06 Adam Yeah, the girl from Kentucky was a lovely period many, many, many years ago and she disappeared into the East Coast night and I never did hear from her again and it's probably better to have the memory as such.

36:17 Drew Was she in your using days?

36:20 Adam Oddly enough, no. That was, I think, that was 1988 or nine in the very beginning of my first go-round.

36:30 Drew I find it weird that she must know that you're telling the story about her. And I find it weird that she doesn't just email or surface a little bit.

36:39 Stryker But how is she just gonna find his email address? Or whatever.

36:42 Drew Call Loveline, you know what I mean? I find it weird that people just stay submerged when they're an important part of your life.

36:47 Adam God bless her. She's alive and stays submerged.

36:49 Drew No, I hear you. I understand. But it seems counterintuitive that they wouldn't sort of want to just touch you again.

36:54 Adam She might be married with kids and just not even want to.

36:55 Stryker I understand. 1989 is a long time ago.

36:58 Adam Right?

36:58 Stryker Yeah. She could be dead. You never know.

37:01 Adam You don't know.

37:02 Stryker Hopefully not, but hopefully she's just living some life.

37:04 Drew It's that thought though that makes me think people would want to at least just go, I'm fine, things are great. Thanks for mentioning me.

37:12 Stryker I'm just gonna close the loop, you know?

37:14 Adam Now.

37:14 Stryker Okay. All right. You've talked about recovery, Drew, the last few minutes based on the honesty in their Anthony stories. Maybe we can talk about maybe your first time going to rehab and how that all happened and things of that nature or help our listeners?

37:31 Drew It's about Under the Bridge. What's that story?

37:34 Stryker Well, that's the greatest song ever, but.

37:36 Drew No, no, no, but some story about Under the Bridge.

37:39 Adam Well, I mean, there are two different stories. The Under the Bridge story is not the same as the first rehab story. But the first rehab we kind of talked about earlier in this segment.

37:49 Drew We were just talking.

37:50 Stryker Okay, well, we can just talk about other things, but I'm curious for myself.

37:56 Adam I ended up in rehab at a time when rehab was not so fashionable or popular or available. It was kind of, what's rehab? I don't know, it's where you go if you've got a problem with drugs. And I had nowhere else to go, and I sort of went there as a very last resort. It was suggested to me by a friend.

38:14 Drew Having just had a friend die.

38:16 Adam Yeah, I had a friend die, but that didn't stop me from using. And it doesn't usually stop other people from using either.

38:21 Drew No, it doesn't at all. In fact, you see it escalates at some times.

38:23 Adam Yeah, yeah, it definitely, there's not a lot of logic.

38:26 Stryker Is that hello you're referring to?

38:27 Adam Yeah, hello.

38:28 Stryker Well, that's a whole new segment we should, maybe we'll take a break and come back. Yeah, because that's, I mean, he's your best, he's your best friend.

38:36 Adam He was my best friend.

38:36 Stryker Yeah, that deserves more than just a quick let's get out of it. So, all right, let's take a break and talk to more with Anthony Kiedis on Loveline after this.

38:43 Hello, this is your radio.

38:51 Stryker Yeah, all right, we are back on Loveline. Dr. Drew, I'm Stryker for Adam and Anthony Kiedis is here from the Chili Peppers. 15 minutes to my show time, Dr. Drew.

39:00 Drew Yes, it is, The Ultimate Gamer.

39:02 Stryker Spike TV, second episode.

39:04 Drew Still well out here.

39:06 Stryker It's doing pretty well. It's doing all right. Yeah. It's about redoing guys' game rooms. Guys' is, is that a room? Guys' game rooms, because most of the makeover shows are mostly for girls, I'd say. And this is where we take guys who have a fantasy and give them the ultimate makeover, like stereos, flat screen, video games.

39:28 Drew My kids would die for this.

39:30 Stryker But they also get to meet the maker and the people involved in the show.

39:33 Drew Like Tony Hawk or something shows up.

39:35 Stryker The first one was Tony Hawk, so we skated with Tony Hawk.

39:38 Adam Nice fella.

39:39 Stryker Yeah, totally cool.

39:40 Adam He's a good man.

39:42 Stryker The second one has to do with Halo 2. Halo 2.

39:46 Drew So I wanna hear the story. Anthony, Stryker was telling me something.

39:49 Adam Which story?

39:49 Drew He wouldn't tell me. And I wanna hear the, instead of juggling stories.

39:53 Stryker It's an amazing story and it's sad at the same time, but your best friend, as you said before, Rick Hillel.

39:59 Adam Right.

40:00 Stryker For years growing up in your band, Red Hot Chili Peppers also. And you guys, maybe I'll just try to set it up and if I'm wrong in any way, slap me around. But you guys used together drugs?

40:10 Adam Sure, as I did with almost everybody.

40:13 Stryker And then was there some point where both of you said to each other, let's just stop now?

40:18 Adam Well, it was weird. I was more infamous for having a horrible drug habit and he quietly sort of joined me in that ranking. But just wasn't, he was kind of, he kept it in the shadows a bit more.

40:36 Drew He wasn't as committed.

40:37 Adam He was committed, but he didn't have the same reputation because he was a little bit quieter about it. But quietly, we as his friends, even myself with my own problems, watched him kind of go deeper and deeper and deeper into this. And it was weird to see a person who got a very late start in life of using kind of become so hurt by using. You could really see the kind of fire going out in his eyes and the lack of physical health became very apparent. So we went on a little tour.

41:09 Drew What is that light just goes out, doesn't it?

41:11 Adam Oh, it goes out.

41:12 Drew I've seen it go out and it should come back.

41:14 Adam It comes back. If you live through it, it comes back.

41:17 Drew I know, I wanted to write about that and people told me it couldn't be.

41:22 Adam Yep, you talked about Bob Forrest. That man was negative light.

41:26 Drew He was a black hole.

41:27 Adam Yeah, he was a black hole sucking in all light. And now he's a giant candle. So Halell and I did discuss at some point, we're like, you know, we have to stop. This is just crazy. It's not working. We have no control. We have nothing to say. Once we start, we can't stop. We want to stop, but there's just no stopping. And it was just a lot of because the minute we got back from tour and we had Hollywood, we just dispersed, you know, like little, so many little drops of mercury into the sort of ghetto and started copying and using. And it had gotten to a point where we weren't even using together. Had we been using together, he probably wouldn't have died because dealt with heroin overdose a lot with friends and reviving them. And we went into our separate corners of town and just started using ferociously. Cut to I get a phone call from my girlfriend saying, you know, through her tears, your friend is dead. And I said, no, he's not. There's no way he's not. He's like, oh, he's dead. So I went into instant survival denial and then continued to use.

42:33 Drew What's a great excuse to use.

42:34 Adam Yeah, like a maniac. Everyone set up a funeral for him. I could not attend. I left the country, tried to clean up, but had no chance and kept getting high until it did not work and I was using and I could not shut off any of my feelings. And that's how I ended up in this little known thing called rehab in the mid 80s. And it was a pretty interesting experience because when they came in there and they told me, they looked at a room of about 30 some people and they said, if you're lucky, one person in this room will get clean and stay clean. And I was such a little ego maniac that I was like, everyone else can go home because I'm taking that spot. Thank you. Good night.

43:15 Drew That's interesting. Most addicts think, well, whatever.

43:18 Adam No, I was determined to beat the odds when they challenged me and said, no one really makes it, but maybe one.

43:25 Drew Interesting.

43:25 Adam Yeah. And then I ran with that for about five and a half years. That time.

43:33 Stryker And then you were back on. Then you had to go back and fight.

43:36 Drew It's a chronic condition. It's marked by relapses. It takes what it takes to get over it.

43:42 Adam It takes what it takes.

43:42 Stryker How many years was drug use fun?

43:46 Adam Well, lots. Yeah, lots. I mean, you know, it's a very interesting experience, and I really don't regret it. Or do I look at it as a horrible, it was all bad. It's lots of fun. You know, it's lots of fun to be in an altered state. You know, but there comes a time when the price is just way greater than the amount of fun or the amount of adventure or the amount of, you know, anything goes. The price just gets too high.

44:14 Stryker Does Hillel's family, do they, do you have any contact with them or are they... A little bit.

44:22 Adam It's very difficult because not everybody understands so clearly the dynamics of the disease of drug addiction and alcoholism and people...

44:31 Drew They want to blame.

44:31 Adam They want to blame. They don't understand. You know, my boy was a good boy. There's no way that could happen to my... He was hanging out with you. Maybe you were the problem. It's like, no, not so much. We, you know, we did everything we could for each other, probably even more than sometimes the family step up to the plate. And it's tough. It's tough.

44:51 Stryker Yeah, I'm sorry. The unbelievable story is well said. It's all in the book. Also scar tissue from Anthony Kiedis on Loveline. And maybe we can segue directly into Under the Bridge, which Drew had mentioned before the break. No, we don't have time. No, not play it.

45:08 Drew It's a story about Under the Bridge.

45:09 Stryker Oh, we got to go to a break. Yeah. Okay. So we go to a break. All right. Time is flying by here.

45:16 Drew You're going to stay?

45:18 Adam I'm hanging out.

45:18 Stryker Is that cool?

45:20 Drew Awesome.

45:20 Stryker That's Anthony Kiedis. And we got more Loveline after this. Rick Rubin produced that track in the background right there.

46:08 Adam That sounds like some Rick to me.

46:10 Stryker That is Jay-Z's song, 99 Problems. All right, we're back on Loveline. Anthony Kiedis is here. I'm Stryker, and for Adam Corolla, he's back Sunday, I guess, Drew. Is that right?

46:20 Drew That is right.

46:21 Stryker 1-800-LOVE-191. It talked to Anthony from the Chili Peppers. If you read the book, call about the book, call about the Chilis. We're gonna talk about the song Under the Bridge. Under the Bridge, downtown is where I drew some blood. Under the Bridge, downtown, I could not get enough.

46:36 Adam There's a story.

46:37 Stryker You'll see here in the lyrics.

46:38 Adam But I'm not hearing problems. It's a cover song.

46:40 Stryker It is?

46:41 Adam It's a cover song.

46:42 Stryker I didn't know that.

46:43 Adam And for who? I believe that LL Cool J wrote that song and that Jay-Z is covering it. I'm not 100,000 million percent sure.

46:50 Stryker Wow.

46:51 Adam But I believe it's a cover song. And it's a great cover.

46:55 Stryker Part of the Rick Rubin thing way back in the day, right?

46:58 Adam Yes, he is.

46:59 Stryker God, it's where it gets the house in Malibu.

47:02 Adam If my pager worked in here, I'd find out from Rick, but no signal. So yeah, the weird thing about Under the Bridge, I guess, is that it was written many years after I was already sober. Not so many, but a couple of few.

47:17 Drew First sobriety.

47:18 Adam First sobriety, yeah. And I think I was three years sober when that sort of wealth of emotion rose up. And I just kind of thought back to myself, wow, I don't ever want to go back to that desperate, lonely, demoralized, gutted feeling.

47:41 Drew And yet the cunning power of this disease.

47:44 Adam Oh yeah, well, it powered its way back into the front door. But that was a couple of years down the line. So yeah, coming back from rehearsal one day, just kind of reconnecting with the battleground that was downtown LA for me. That was kind of my using place.

47:59 Drew Were you actually driving through or walking through or something?

48:01 Adam Driving, walking, skateboarding, Pogo sticking, whatever transportation I could find.

48:07 Drew In the day, but I mean, were you going back at that point, going through it and having all that come up?

48:12 Adam At the moment that that song sort of entered my mind, I was actually on the Hollywood freeway between the Valley and Hollywood. What happened is I was at a band practice and I got a little bit of that, I am a man alone unto myself, no one really understands me, including my own damn band. And it kind of really pissed me off. And I was like, okay, I've been through so much. I fought the war and won, I got sober, and I'm still this little separatist among the universe.

48:49 Drew Oh boy, you know where you were. You were this close to using.

48:54 Adam And instead I just started singing about it and it made sense. And I went home and I wrote this poem and it had a melody and it just sort of hung around in the back of my notebook for a while. And then the bearded wonder, aka Rick Rubin, came over to my house in his quiet way and he started leafing through my lyrics. He's like, what's this? I said, that's nothing. That's nothing. I got this other thing you should really sing. What's this? This is nice. What's this? He's like, it goes like this, blah, blah, blah. He's like, wow, have you showed that to the boys? I was like, no, it's not really anything we need to show anybody. He's like, you go into rehearsal tomorrow and show the boys this song. We're going to make a song. And I was like, okay, I'll trust you. I'll do it. But you really should see this other one. And I went in there and my memory is that Flea wasn't there, but John and Chad were there. And so I just sang what I had, probably in a weird out of tune key. And Chad and John both looked at me for a minute and then they didn't say anything and they walked over to their instruments and just started playing. And I started singing again, probably out of key. But we found that was sort of the birth of our interest in doing really quiet, sort of balladeering type tunes, which has turned out to be great because the umbrella of being in the Red Hot Chili Peppers is vast and we can play whatever we want to play. There are no rules or limitations or styles or trends or anything that we're trying to be a part of, so anything goes. It was very helpful when you're writing music because some days you feel like playing something crazy and different that doesn't fit into a category. So that became our song. And then about six months later when it came out, we had a certain degree of recognition in the world, but that sort of took it to a whole different place. And I started going up to urinals and there would be some guy taking an X to me and he'd look at me and go, hey, under the bridge downtown.

50:58 Stryker What percent of people, I don't know what percent, but you think a lot of people got the song at the time?

51:04 Adam That it was about reflecting on drug addiction and being lonely and desperate, you know, under the bridge downtown. I think people connected for real on an emotional level on some sort of loneliness tip, you know, not necessarily injecting yourself with narcotics and being lonely and despondent and separate from the universe, but feeling that I am kind of here by myself feeling and no one quite gets me. I think people can all relate to that, and they did. And it definitely crossed some boundaries that we hadn't crossed before with our music.

51:40 Stryker That video was really good also. I mean, we're talking back in the day, but who directed that?

51:45 Adam Gus Van Sant. Oh, my goodness.

51:47 Stryker There you go. I mean, the thing is so good. I love the part when, not when you're running, which is cool, but when you're just walking through, it has to be downtown. There's like Hispanic guys there. They got all their other things set up, like patting you as you're walking, smiling. You're like kind of looking at them.

52:00 Adam Yeah.

52:01 Stryker It felt so LA and...

52:03 Adam Main Street or Los Angeles Street or something. Downtown. No permits. Just Gus and a camera.

52:09 Drew Oh, those are real people.

52:11 Adam Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. We just took a walk down that street.

52:13 Stryker That's why it's so real.

52:16 Drew The word that brings in my head as it pertains to people's experience, that song is truth. It's the truth.

52:22 Adam Yeah, telling the truth by yourself.

52:25 Drew It's about that feeling.

52:28 Stryker How about line six, Drew? We're talking to Anthony Kiedis, by the way, on Loveline, and you, 17-year-old Melissa, you're on. What's up?

52:35 I just wanted to wish you a belated birthday.

52:37 Adam Thank you, Melissa.

52:38 Stryker On Monday, right? Yeah.

52:40 Adam November 1st. Where are you, Melissa?

52:43 I'm at my house in North Hollywood. Okay.

52:46 Adam Are you well?

52:47 Yes, I'm well. And I read your book, and I love it. I love it.

52:51 Adam The book's getting read. Thank you.

52:53 The first book, I actually read the whole thing.

52:56 Adam Nice.

52:57 Yeah.

52:57 Adam That's cool.

53:00 I really love the part where you guys all did that whole Spice Girls thing for Carla.

53:06 Adam For Clara. Yeah, for Flea's daughter.

53:10 Yeah, that was really funny.

53:12 Adam It was actually really fun for us, too.

53:14 Something I think I would do for a niece like that.

53:17 Adam Well, don't let me stop you.

53:20 Drew Thanks, Melissa.

53:21 And?

53:22 Adam Bye.

53:22 Drew And? I guess that's it. We'll take another book question. Antoine, 19.

53:29 Hi. Hi, Anthony. I'm a big fan. I love your music with the Red Hots. And I read your book.

53:35 Thank you kindly.

53:36 And I noticed that you think you might be related to some Cherokee blood?

53:42 Adam If it's Cherokee, that's a big typo, but I'm going to call it a typo. It's actually Mohican.

53:47 Oh, really?

53:48 Adam Yeah.

53:48 I was just wondering what's your interest in Native Americans and the two tattoos on your shoulders? Who are they?

53:55 Adam One is Chief Joseph and one is Sitting Bull and kind of representative of different approaches to dealing with the changes in this country. When they were around, one guy decided to take the big peaceful march into Canada because he sort of saw it as a lost cause in the USA. And the other guy decided to sort of fight until he could fight no more and he ended up killing Custer. So it's kind of the war and peace vibe on my shoulders.

54:24 Drew But that's actually Haida Totem Pole.

54:31 Adam But this was before I had any idea that I had so much as a drop of Native blood in me that I didn't find out until about four years ago when some eccentric uncle went the distance and figured out the family tree back to the 1700s and found Mohican blood from New York on my grandmother's side who died of an overdose of pills and alcohol.

54:53 Drew That is that gene.

54:53 Adam That's the gene.

54:56 Drew Pete, what's up?

54:57 Stryker 24 and Loveline.

54:57 Hey, yeah. I'm well endowed and my fiance, she's tight. We have really hard...

55:06 Adam That's a fine combination.

55:08 Stryker I don't think I've ever said that whole sentence in my life before. I'm very endowed and my girl is tight.

55:12 Adam I mean, her game is tight.

55:18 So, we have a hard time having missionary sex.

55:21 Adam Right.

55:22 So, it always ends up her being on top. And that's so great, but you know, every once in a while, you know, I'd like to do something too.

55:30 Stryker Astro glad, my friend.

55:32 Adam I'm serious. How long has she been your girlfriend?

55:36 About four months.

55:38 Adam Doesn't the female vagina, as opposed to the male vagina, find its way to expand around any particular size?

55:46 Drew It's designed to make the head of a baby come through.

55:48 Adam So, eventually, you should probably be able to work that in.

55:53 Right.

55:53 Drew It's a bogus call.

55:55 Any other positions that are...

55:57 Drew It's a bogus call.

55:58 Adam Try the ceiling. Try going on the ceiling.

56:01 Drew Look, you got to work it out together. We can't give you specifics. I mean, he's trying different things. You'll try to find what works.

56:07 Stryker About the stretching of the vagina, though, it can expand.

56:11 Drew Another thing you've never had to say to me. Good night. See you later, Stryker.

56:20 Stryker Yeah, Dr. Spockter. My lady's listening right now, driving home from Philly.

56:26 Drew Well, she knows. That's what I'm talking about. Come on.

56:30 Stryker You're killing me, Larry. Give me my water here.

56:38 Drew Here we go.

56:40 Stryker Back to the vagina stretchers, and it fits around. Anything can fit in it, but it doesn't actually, you can't really stretch a vagina out and it becomes loose. Is that correct?

56:51 Drew Yeah, they spring right back.

56:52 Stryker So whatever you dealt with as a woman with the size of the hole, it adds the size.

56:57 Drew After the baby's head comes through, it goes all back to normal.

57:00 Stryker So when a girl says, a guy says the girl's loose.

57:03 Drew He's saying something about himself, not about her.

57:07 Stryker Got it. That he has a small wiener.

57:09 Drew That's right.

57:09 Stryker You should know about that.

57:10 Drew Yeah.

57:10 Adam All right.

57:12 Drew Bastard. Yes, because I'm broadcasting with you. Here's Jimmy.

57:15 Stryker No, no, come on.

57:17 Adam Well, no, there are definitely different textures and strengths to vaginas as you go through life.

57:24 Drew Absolutely.

57:24 Adam Some are sort of toned and...

57:26 Drew And some are closed off. Some are clamped down.

57:29 Adam Some are clamped down and some are actually seem to be biologically larger than others. Yes, yes, yes.

57:34 Drew But it's not because they're stretched out.

57:35 Adam They started off big.

57:37 Drew That's just how they are. Yeah.

57:38 Adam Right. Okay.

57:39 Drew I mean, it is obviously a little bit...

57:40 Stryker I thought it was me. I guess I was wrong.

57:43 So, Jimmy 21.

57:44 Stryker Jimmy 21.

57:46 Hello?

57:47 Adam Yes, Jim.

57:48 Yeah, this is Jimmy. We're big fans of the show. I'm a delivery driver and I listen to it all the time. Yeah. Hello?

57:58 We're riveted.

57:58 Go ahead.

58:00 And we got a question for you where I work.

58:03 We got a bet going on. The dude wants to eat three pounds of mayonnaise and we want to know what will happen to him.

58:13 He'll throw up.

58:14 He'll throw up.

58:15 That's it.

58:15 Nothing else can happen.

58:18 Drew Why?

58:18 Adam It sounds good to me.

58:20 Drew If he has active coronary disease, that's not the best way to manage it. But no, if he's a young, healthy person, he'll just be sick.

58:27 Stryker Where do you guys work in Tucson?

58:29 We work at the pita pit.

58:31 Stryker Never been there. I went to Mama's Pizza on University Drive.

58:35 That's what it's on. It's on University.

58:37 Adam What does he get if he eats the mayonnaise? What does he win?

58:41 He gets 80 bucks.

58:42 Adam I say go for it. We used to do that on the road to amuse ourselves as a band. You'd eat mayonnaise? Yeah. We would eat, you know, someone say, you can't eat that pound of butter. And we would pass the hat and we'd get 100 bucks and someone would eat the pound of butter. If they could, butter's tough.

58:57 Stryker Who took the most risks in the band eating for the 100 bucks?

59:02 Adam The roadies, of course. Yeah.

59:04 Stryker That's awesome.

59:05 Adam Salad dressing, you know, large vats.

59:07 Drew Would you get people to vomit doing it?

59:09 Adam Well, the thing is you have to hold it down for five minutes. You have to not vomit for five minutes and then you can vomit, you know, to your will.

59:16 Drew Until your heart's content. Yes.

59:17 Stryker Jessica, 25, what's up? On Loveline with Anthony Kiedis.

59:22 My question for you guys is that I was in a relationship for a long time and the guy would ejaculate in me and I never had any problems. This new guy I'm dating, I find that there's more of a smell and I'm more of a germaphobe, so I use everything under the sun thinking that it's me and that I went to the gynecologist and nothing's wrong with me, but I still…

59:47 Drew That was a smart thing to do because it can be bacterial infections in you. But some guys got the funk going on.

59:53 Stryker Just like some girls have the funk.

59:54 Adam Wait, semen funk?

59:55 Drew Some guys, yeah.

59:56 Adam You are kidding me. I've never heard of semen funk.

59:59 When I'm down there, there's no problem.

1:00:01 Drew When you're having oral sex?

1:00:02 Yeah.

1:00:03 Drew So it's the combo of you two.

1:00:05 Yeah, so that's my question. Is there some sort of combination between us?

1:00:09 Drew There must be. You've done the experiments. Yeah. You've tested for you, it's negative, you tested for him and yet together there's something, so what are you going to do?

1:00:19 Stryker Have you told him he has an odor when he ejaculates?

1:00:22 Drew No, he doesn't, because that's the point. It's only when it's in her, because when she has oral sex, no smell.

1:00:26 I haven't told him that when he does in me, I haven't told him that.

1:00:30 Drew Yeah, but who cares?

1:00:30 Adam What about a diet change just for an experiment?

1:00:34 I don't know. He drinks a lot of beer. I would think that that's pretty healthy.

1:00:40 Drew No, beer is not healthy. Not good for semen.

1:00:42 Stryker Pineapple.

1:00:43 Drew But be that as it may, you're telling me his semen does not have a funk unless it's mixed with you.

1:00:47 Yes.

1:00:48 Adam So, if you drink his semen straight from the pipe, then no problem.

1:00:54 No funk.

1:00:56 Stryker By the way, I congratulate you on drinking from the pipe, by the way. Straight from it. Good job.

1:01:01 So, yeah, I just wanted a doctor's perspective because there's no way I could talk to my gynecologist.

1:01:08 Adam I like trying diet for a change.

1:01:10 Drew You should be able to talk to your gynecologist about this. I absolutely should.

1:01:15 She's not bad if I wanted to.

1:01:17 Drew All right, but the deal is, I still think it's probably more him than you, I bet you. Okay.

1:01:22 Adam I've not heard of that.

1:01:23 Drew There's things like that.

1:01:24 Adam Yeah?

1:01:25 Drew Yeah, it doesn't necessarily mean.

1:01:26 Adam Tainted semen?

1:01:26 Drew It's not tainted.

1:01:27 Adam It's just reactive?

1:01:29 Drew Just reactive. It's just, yeah, it's chemistry, exactly. It's just personal chemistry.

1:01:34 Stryker Go to five. Pull out for a while. Hey, Renee, you're 19 on Loveline. What's up?

1:01:38 Hi, I just want to ask Anthony Kiedis when he's coming to Australia.

1:01:44 Adam Well, not soon enough. How about that?

1:01:46 Drew Well, Renee, you're in Pasadena.

1:01:47 Yes, I am.

1:01:48 Drew Well, when are you going to Australia?

1:01:50 I'm going back on the 18th of November.

1:01:53 Drew What are you doing in Pasadena?

1:01:55 I'm visiting friends.

1:01:57 Drew You come from Australia to Pasadena?

1:02:00 Adam I just have to say, Oz is lovely, and I hope to spend a decent percentage of my life in your country. It's a gorgeous place.

1:02:10 Drew But why would you go from Australia to Pasadena? That's going upstream.

1:02:17 Adam Friends.

1:02:17 Drew Why would you go from Australia to Pasadena? Just curious.

1:02:22 Well, just to visit friends.

1:02:23 Drew To visit friends.

1:02:25 You know, visit America.

1:02:26 Adam Where in Australia are you from?

1:02:27 I'm from Sydney.

1:02:29 Adam Have you been to Broom? I want to go to Broom. Because it's in the middle of nowhere, and they have great storms, and it's on the ocean, and it's just magically pure, unspoiled nature.

1:02:42 Drew Everybody who goes to Austria comes back saying, oh, the people, you got to go. It's amazing, it's beautiful, it's fantastic. It is.

1:02:50 Stryker What about the fans of music out there? I hear they're kind of similar to the LA, US crowd in terms of, I don't want to use hypnosis as a word, but just into it, and their enthusiasm for American music is pretty strong comparatively to us here.

1:03:03 Adam They're just generally enthusiastic people. You know, it's an outdoors life, it's a good life down there.

1:03:09 Stryker They surf, they're into the music, lifestyle.

1:03:12 Adam It's a healthy lot down there.

1:03:14 Drew Well Renee, how do you like Pasadena so far?

1:03:16 I like it, it's really pretty, but I want to see more of the country.

1:03:20 Drew It's where I live in Pasadena.

1:03:21 Stryker You should get to Bakersfield, it's beautiful there.

1:03:24 Drew Where are you relative to the Rose Bowl right now?

1:03:27 I'm off Orange Grove, I'm not entirely sure, near Old Pasadena.

1:03:33 Adam That's tough for an out of towner.

1:03:34 Drew That's where I live.

1:03:35 Really?

1:03:36 Stryker Why don't you go to Drew's house at 12 and help him out?

1:03:38 Drew Jed lives too, by the way. All right, Renee, have a good time.

1:03:41 Stryker Do you need to give out everyone?

1:03:42 Stryker No, no.

1:03:44 Adam Orange Grove, everybody.

1:03:45 Stryker Yes, right near the good old doctor. Hold on, what's that? Anthony, where's your favorite place to play in LA.?

1:03:52 Adam In LA.?

1:03:52 Stryker Yeah.

1:03:53 Adam In LA.? Yeah. In LA.?

1:03:55 Drew Where? Nowhere in LA is the point there.

1:03:57 Adam Well, it would be the Palladium if the sound was better, because it's a stand up situation. I like it at the Palladium.

1:04:05 Stryker What about of small places when you guys were on the up and up? Was it the Roxy Whiskey? Was it Troubadour?

1:04:11 Adam At that time, the Lingerie was kind of a hot place to play.

1:04:14 Stryker Is that way east on Santa Monica? Sunset.

1:04:18 Adam And before that, Cathay DeGrand.

1:04:19 Drew Oh my God, those are all the old...

1:04:21 Adam You remember the Cathay DeGrand?

1:04:22 Drew Oh, the early 80s. Early 80s. Peyton, 17.

1:04:30 Caller Hello. Dr. Drew, I have a question for you.

1:04:32 Drew Yeah, what's up?

1:04:33 Caller It's kind of complicated. Being that you're such an authoritative on drugs and all of that, my father, way back in the 70s, he was addicted to heroin, you know, when he was like 15 to 20. He kicked it back then, except with the exception of like four times since then, had he ever done it. And last year, in November, I know that he did it at that time. And he told me he got an infection in his leg or on the vein.

1:05:18 Drew And it eventually went to his heart.

1:05:20 Caller Right.

1:05:20 Drew That's a very, very common way that heroin addicts die.

1:05:24 Caller Yeah.

1:05:24 Drew Very, very common.

1:05:26 Caller Yeah, but what actually happened was that he was in the hospital for 19 days. And they had gotten to where he had pretty much gone away. The risk of, well, the severe risk of it, I guess, had gone away. And on Christmas Eve, when we went there, they had given him some shot and it was something wrong with it. I don't know exactly what it was, but he was either allergic to it or something like that. But I was making him stop breathing and they had something that could counteract it, but they didn't give it to him.

1:06:01 Drew No, you're missing the story, my dear. If you really want to find out what happened, you have to get the medical record out. Your perception of what's happening is not...

1:06:08 Caller They won't give it to him.

1:06:09 Drew Well, it's not accurate. He's lucky to have lived. The condition he had kills most people. He probably had his heart valve probably blew out, which is what happens from that infection, or he threw what's called a mycotic infarct or aneurysm where the infection moves up to the brain. They throw these sort of strokes up to the brain off the heart valve. That's usually what takes people late in the course where they think they're getting better and suddenly they die. That's usually what that is. It's a very serious disease he had.

1:06:39 Stryker What about you, Peyton? How are you doing? You seem like you're just going, going, going. You take drugs or are you clean?

1:06:46 Caller Oh, yeah, totally. I wouldn't, because of that, I would never do it. No, I'm just, it still upsets me because it's only been a year and we haven't gotten closer.

1:06:59 Drew It's the heroin addiction is what killed him, not the hospital. The heroin addiction killed him, not the hospital.

1:07:12 Caller Okay, because I, I, I, we just haven't, they haven't told us what he died of or anything.

1:07:18 Drew Peyton, the condition he had was, they had two fatal conditions, heroin addiction and a heart valve infection. They did, clearly did a good job of keeping him alive as long as they did. These are very dangerous conditions. The disease killed them, not the hospital.

1:07:33 Adam You're talking about endocarditis.

1:07:34 Drew Endocarditis. Did you ever have that? Nope. Yeah. It's a bad, bad times. We take a break.

1:07:41 Stryker Let's take a break.

1:07:42 Drew All right.

1:07:42 Stryker Peyton, I'm sorry that happened. I hope you start feeling better. We're going to take a break. Anthony's here from the Chili Peppers. The book is Scar Tissue. Talk more about the book. Getting us some more stuff with me, Stryker, and Dr. Drew on Loveline. We've got about a half hour left. Anthony Kiedis is here. I'm Stryker and Dr. Drew. Anthony is gonna stay the rest of this segment, hang out. The book is Scar Tissue, and it's doing pretty well from what I hear. And I am going to read it. You have my word when I see you again, Anthony. Call me out on it.

1:08:29 Adam And it was Ice Cube.

1:08:31 Stryker O'Shea Jackson for 99 Problems.

1:08:33 Adam 99 Problems, it's, yeah. Jay-Z rewrote the verses, but it was Ice Cube's song.

1:08:38 Stryker We actually played the song, the Jay-Z version, on K-Rock and it went over pretty well.

1:08:42 Adam It's a great song.

1:08:43 Stryker It is.

1:08:44 Adam It rocks.

1:08:45 Stryker His lyrics are ridiculous.

1:08:46 Adam The lyrics are great, the beat is ridiculous. I know when you walk into a club and you hear that coming through the sound system, you just wanna get down. On the dance floor.

1:08:55 Stryker And I can get down. No, not really.

1:08:57 Drew He was looking at me when he said that, come on.

1:08:59 Stryker Oh, he was?

1:08:59 Drew Yep, here we go. Julie is 26.

1:09:01 Stryker All right. What's up, Julie?

1:09:03 Hey. I just had a quick question about, ever since I can remember, since puberty, when I squeeze, if I squeeze my breast, I can get like a milky substance out.

1:09:14 Drew Good times.

1:09:15 I've always been able to do that.

1:09:17 Drew Are you on medication?

1:09:19 Well, I'm on birth control pills now, but I wasn't before.

1:09:22 Drew No, no other medicine? No. Any history of thyroid problems?

1:09:26 Not that I know of. I remember I was checked just as like part of a routine.

1:09:31 Drew If you ever had a, there are prolactin secreting tumors. Have you ever been checked for that?

1:09:38 I know my mom said that my aunt had the same problem, or not necessarily a problem, but the same thing.

1:09:42 Drew Yeah, well.

1:09:44 And I don't know if she was ever treated for it, but.

1:09:46 Drew The other thing, some women, just the like rubbing of the nipple can cause a little stimulation.

1:09:51 Adam Yeah, it doesn't have to be a problem.

1:09:53 Drew No, it doesn't have to be, but it's, you want to know it if it is, you know what I mean?

1:09:57 Well, this is like if I squeeze it, like I can work it out and it'll be.

1:10:00 Drew No, I understand, but that's not, that's not so to speak normal. It doesn't mean that there's a serious problem, but some women are very sensitive to that. The oxytocin is stimulated by the just breast irritation. But, but it's, but prolactin is creating tumor is actually very, very common. And you should know if you have prolactinoma.

1:10:16 Adam Prolactinoma?

1:10:18 Drew These just be checked for that. That's all.

1:10:20 Adam Check it out.

1:10:20 Drew Not a big deal. Yeah.

1:10:21 I had a doctor ask me one time and told me to get on testosterone.

1:10:25 Drew To put you on testosterone without checking.

1:10:28 Well, I can put you, you know, I can have you take testosterone pills and something or something of that effect. And I was like, well, I don't want to grow a mustache.

1:10:35 Drew No, no, no, no, no, no. You don't want to treat anything unless there's a problem. Milk mustache. Just begin. No, no, no, you're fine. You're good.

1:10:43 Stryker I've never been with the girl who had milk coming out of her boobs before.

1:10:45 Drew I'm sorry.

1:10:46 Stryker I would be a little, no, I don't know if I'd be scared or quench my thirst. I don't, I'm not sure what I would do at that point.

1:10:51 Adam Is it true that you can make breasts grow larger by fondling them repeatedly?

1:10:56 Drew No.

1:10:57 Adam No?

1:10:58 Drew They will appear fuller. They can engorge in the moment and things, but they won't, as a part of sexual arousal for some women, there's a certain amount of it. It depends on their level of estrogen, how much estrogen in their system and how much body fat they have, but you can't really stimulate them to grow per se.

1:11:15 Adam Okay, just checking.

1:11:16 Drew You can stimulate them to produce milk, though.

1:11:20 Stryker Skim milk. Angel 17 on Loveline with Anthony Kiedis.

1:11:24 Drew Angel.

1:11:25 Hey, I was just wondering, how do you go into music?

1:11:28 Stryker Well, I started off listening to Madness, oh, sorry. Me, too.

1:11:34 Adam Madness.

1:11:34 Stryker Yeah.

1:11:35 Adam Yeah. She was talking to Drew. Yes.

1:11:37 Stryker Go ahead.

1:11:37 Adam Take it away, Drew. How, how do, someone gets into music? Yeah, like. I think, I think it starts by you hear it. You hear it and you feel funny, that you feel good. You feel, you know, um, aroused some way, aroused. And I don't know, I got into playing music because all of my best friends were really disciplined musicians who decided to make that their life early on. And since I had no clear chosen path as a teenager with what I wanted to do with my life, I just kind of fell in league with, uh, with my friends. So it was very accidental and fortunate and fun and exciting for me. But get into it as, as a, as an appreciator of it. Is that what you meant?

1:12:25 Caller How did you get into like, wanting to become like an artist?

1:12:30 Adam I guess I was just a big ham and I, and I liked rocking the mic and I, and I grew up in a kind of a theatrical household with a father who was an actor and a writer and a, and a little bit of a poet. And it just, you know, it seemed like something I could be good at.

1:12:46 Stryker You listening to any commercial type music these days that you're into or are you in, are you into anything that feels good? Yeah.

1:12:55 Adam Yeah. It doesn't, I don't care if it's commercial or anti-commercial or whatever, um, the yeah, yeah, yes. That's a record that drives me crazy.

1:13:03 Stryker Karen O.

1:13:04 Adam Yeah.

1:13:04 Stryker Yeah, she's good.

1:13:05 Adam She really is.

1:13:06 Stryker I went to, on Halloween, we had Marilyn Manson play. He went as Karen O.

1:13:10 Adam He did.

1:13:10 Stryker Yeah. It was great.

1:13:12 Adam Was he a good Karen O?

1:13:13 Stryker He was. Wow. He had his head shaved on the side, hair pulled over, exact makeup.

1:13:19 Adam There's also a band called The Tints, which have not recorded yet, but are playing clubs in LA that are pretty interesting. Flea's daughter happens to be the drummer, just happens to be.

1:13:29 Stryker Very good.

1:13:30 Adam She's a rocking little musician.

1:13:32 Stryker And we can probably see where they're playing. Just check out an LA Weekly and find them. Yeah. Probably do something like that. Speaking of tomorrow though, Lakers, Spurs.

1:13:40 Adam Right.

1:13:41 Drew I'm going to that game.

1:13:42 Stryker Are you really?

1:13:42 Drew Yeah.

1:13:43 Adam I'll see you there.

1:13:43 Drew Yeah?

1:13:44 Adam Oh yeah.

1:13:44 Drew We're going to talk where we're sitting and stuff. I'll look for you. I have a sense in the music, he was, he'd be love to meet you.

1:13:51 Stryker Well, that's me.

1:13:52 Drew That'd be great.

1:13:53 Stryker Lakers are 1-on-1. First game looked great yesterday against Utah. Andre Krilenenko in Utah destroyed them. Yeah. He's good though. That guy's amazing. We do because we're Lakers and basketball fans. And this is just about, this is something off. This is cool to talk about. How do you think they're going to do?

1:14:13 Adam Horribly. Horribly. And it's going to be wonderful. It's going to be wonderful to have a horrible team that you have to struggle with and watch rebuild and go through this process.

1:14:23 Drew Everyone that's been a Dodger fan understands what that is.

1:14:26 Adam Every other city in America has to go through this thing of having a lousy team and you stick with them when they're lame and you just hope for the best. But it's going to be a different season for us.

1:14:36 Stryker I hope they win at least half 41 games.

1:14:39 Adam We'll see.

1:14:39 Stryker That would be, I think, maybe a good point to reach. Where are we going, Dr. Drew?

1:14:44 Adam Jessica.

1:14:44 Stryker Jessica, what's up? You're 26 on Loveline.

1:14:47 Hey, how's it going? Hey, I have a question for actually anyone who wants to answer it. I'm 26 years old and I have never dated before in my life. I really have no experience and I was wondering if you guys...

1:15:00 Drew Why haven't you dated?

1:15:01 Well, I was molested for about four or five years as a child and when I was 14, I had to start working to support my family, so I really haven't had time.

1:15:09 Stryker What did you do at 14 to make enough money to support the family?

1:15:13 Oh, I didn't support them by myself. I just helped. I did odd jobs for people, you know, taking care of their kids, you know, babysitting, that sort of thing.

1:15:19 Drew You said you were sexually abused?

1:15:21 Yeah.

1:15:22 Drew From when to when?

1:15:23 From age around four or five to age ten.

1:15:25 Drew Look, that's why you didn't date.

1:15:28 Yeah.

1:15:29 Drew That's why. It has nothing to do with... A lot of people are busy in work and going to school and graduate school. They date. There's a drive. People need that, a part of normal part of life, unless something has scrambled that and the sexual abuse...

1:15:40 I've had a desire for a while. I just really have no experience.

1:15:43 Drew No, no. Jessica, please. No. Look, it's more than not having experience. You must feel very ambivalent and fearful and all kinds of...

1:15:53 Really, I've been through about four years of therapy for it.

1:15:57 Drew Good.

1:15:59 And I feel okay at this point, okay enough to sort of get into it.

1:16:03 Drew Then just go.

1:16:03 Go.

1:16:04 Adam Have you had a loving sexual experience recently?

1:16:08 Never.

1:16:09 Adam Never? Never. Never been in love or had a physical encounter with anyone?

1:16:14 No, I did have a long distance boyfriend for about four years when I was from age 10 to 14, but that was it.

1:16:20 Drew 10 to 14 is not a boyfriend, Jessica.

1:16:24 Well, it's the closest thing I've had to a relationship.

1:16:27 Adam Is there someone that you like now that you want to sort of experiment with?

1:16:30 No, there's nobody in mind.

1:16:33 Stryker Well, you're 26, you've had four years of therapy, which is certainly commendable.

1:16:37 Drew A beginning.

1:16:38 Stryker You just got to like grab them and do it, and I think maybe that'll get the ball rolling, don't you think, Drew?

1:16:47 Adam I think you have to go for it. I think life is short and you want to get over the bad experience by making a new, better experience. And when you meet someone that you dig, just take your clothes off when the time is right and pray to God to have no fear and just have a positive experience.

1:17:03 Drew I'm frustrated. I don't know what you want from us, Jessica.

1:17:05 I'm just curious if you have any advice on how to do that. I really am coming from zero knowledge about this.

1:17:13 Drew Do you have any friends?

1:17:14 Yeah, I do have friends. And they all talk about dating, and I'm just completely lost.

1:17:19 Drew You're going to stay lost. You're going to be attracted to guys that are bad, and you're going to have to be very careful with who you date.

1:17:27 Stryker You should watch reruns of Growing Paints.

1:17:29 Drew And you should ask your friends to set you up. And whenever a guy seems to be interested, just ask him out. Just consider it so you're having fun. You're involving yourself with people. Don't think of it as dating. Think of it as passing time and getting to know interesting people. All right. All right.

1:17:46 I actually had... Adam's not there tonight. I actually had a comment for him. Go ahead. Last night, I believe, he was complaining about living in 800 square feet.

1:17:56 Drew When he was a kid?

1:17:57 Yeah.

1:17:57 I mean, I can totally trump that. I lived with my parents and four siblings in an 18-foot travel trailer for four years.

1:18:06 Drew Being sexually abused the whole time?

1:18:08 Actually, no. It didn't start until after we moved out of the trailer. I had a male babysitter. And that's when it started. Yeah. And my dad let him live there after he found out, too. Oh. Yeah. He said it was my fault and just said, Oh, you know, just try not to act sexy when you're around him.

1:18:25 Adam And have no fear and go out there and meet people and engage in life.

1:18:30 All right.

1:18:31 Stryker And kudos on using the word Trump, by the way, which seems to be everyone is using that word lately. You like that word, Drew?

1:18:37 Drew Trump?

1:18:38 Stryker Yeah, I like it.

1:18:40 Drew In the context of a man's name or bridge?

1:18:44 Stryker And using it like dating someone smart trumps someone that's good looking.

1:18:49 Drew That's bridge. OK, Greg, 16.

1:18:52 Yes. All right. Well, I'm in history class and we were watching Last of the Mohicans and somebody asked about the Mohicans and my history teacher said that I believe Last of the Mohicans started out of the book. Maybe not, but the author made a mistake and that Mohicans was actually a mixture of two tribes. And I was wondering like how your uncle traced it back to that tribe.

1:19:17 Adam I don't know.

1:19:20 Drew Was one of them Cherokee?

1:19:24 I believe one of them was Mohawks and the other and I'm not sure about the other.

1:19:29 Adam The Freakins. The Freakins and the Mohawks got together.

1:19:31 Drew If it were Cherokee, maybe your author buddy would get that up.

1:19:34 Adam I don't think the Cherokees were ever anywhere near New York.

1:19:38 Drew Yeah.

1:19:38 Adam I don't know.

1:19:39 Drew But they were.

1:19:42 Stryker Where we going?

1:19:43 Drew Neoria. What a name.

1:19:47 Adam Neoria?

1:19:48 Stryker And what a voice.

1:19:50 Thank you.

1:19:51 Adam Do you live in Peoria?

1:19:53 Stryker I'm sorry? What's that? Say it again.

1:19:56 Adam I said, do you live in Peoria?

1:19:58 Stryker No, I don't.

1:20:00 Stryker She lives in LA.

1:20:05 Stryker I first of all want to say, Anthony, so glad for the Chili Peppers. Love the energy. Love the music you guys have to offer to the universe.

1:20:13 Stryker Thank you.

1:20:14 Stryker Rock on. Anyways, moving on, my question is, I broke up with a boyfriend for four and a half years because he cheated. Jack. Anyways, I'm dating a model.

1:20:26 Stryker Was that his name by the way that you threw in?

1:20:29 Stryker No, he's Jack.

1:20:32 Drew You're dating a male model now.

1:20:34 Stryker There.

1:20:36 Drew Stay focused, honey. You're dating a male model now.

1:20:39 Yes, I'm dating a male model.

1:20:40 Drew And the question is?

1:20:41 Stryker I have a hard time trusting him. It's like, I don't believe anything.

1:20:47 Drew How old is he?

1:20:48 Stryker He's 26.

1:20:51 Stryker You don't trust him because he's a hot-looking model guy or because the last guy cheated on you?

1:20:56 Drew Or because you're always attracted to guys that are cheaters.

1:20:59 Stryker I'm attracted to rockers and troublemakers.

1:21:03 Drew Well, there you go. Well, you could do something about that. But once you are involved with those guys, they aren't changing.

1:21:10 Stryker See, this guy, he's a model, yes, he is very good-looking, but I mean, he's a sweet guy, but I just have a hard time. We didn't get her on.

1:21:21 Drew You're avoiding this. Listen, you're the one.

1:21:26 Stryker Go ahead.

1:21:26 Adam Oh, no, I'm just looking through the window here at Heather who stuck her finger down her throat at the mention of the male model.

1:21:34 Stryker He must be gay, right? No, no, no.

1:21:37 Adam You can tell if you're in an honest experience with somebody and if your relationship is based on honesty, then you can't go around distrusting everyone, but.

1:21:46 Drew Look, Menorah, you're attracted to bad guys. Unless you go out with guys that are not quite so exciting, you can expect this kind of behavior for people in their 20s who are exciting the way you like it.

1:22:01 Stryker Because girls don't like the rated PG guy, Dr. Drew. They like the rated R guy.

1:22:05 Drew It's like, it took him a little while to cheat. He's got not quite so much energy, but it's still going to end up in the same place. You always just smacks of addiction to me. Do you smell addiction?

1:22:16 Stryker Why do you think nice guys in the younger years and maybe even older don't really get a lot of girls? Because most girls, I think, don't like the super just nice guy. It's too plain.

1:22:28 Adam Drew's married.

1:22:30 Drew I'm playing.

1:22:31 Stryker You're what? No, there's an exception to everything, of course.

1:22:35 Adam I'm looking at that wedding ring.

1:22:37 Drew You know what it is? People get old and lose the world. They settle down.

1:22:41 Stryker All right.

1:22:43 Adam Is that it, Drew?

1:22:44 Drew That's it. All right. We've kept Anthony as long as we possibly can. Although you're welcome to stay at the end of the show if you want. It's up to you.

1:22:50 Adam I'd stay all night if I didn't have to leave right now.

1:22:54 Stryker Thank you for hanging out for so long.

1:22:57 Adam My pleasure.

1:23:00 Stryker I've got to fill in for Adam a bunch of times. This was definitely probably my most fun time doing it for Adam just because your band and yourself. I'm such a huge fan of the band.

1:23:10 Adam Thank you.

1:23:10 Stryker And so eloquent when you talk great stories and it was just...

1:23:14 Drew Riveting stories. Yeah.

1:23:15 Stryker It was great. I had a great time and it flew by like that. The book, you guys, is called Scar Tissue. Find out Anthony's story from just being a little guy and smoking pot with his dad all the way through till when, I guess, till about right now in your life it goes to?

1:23:28 Drew Yeah. Cool.

1:23:30 Stryker All right. And look for new Chili Peppers in about a year?

1:23:33 Adam Less.

1:23:34 Stryker Less than a year.

1:23:35 Adam We're working.

1:23:35 Drew We're going to play that live album a bit. Huh?

1:23:38 Stryker Yeah, we should.

1:23:39 Drew Yeah.

1:23:39 Stryker Throw on Brandy some more. All right.

1:23:41 Adam All right, guys.

1:23:42 Stryker Say hi to John. And Flea. And Chad. Chad the drummer. He's the man. All right, you guys, more Loveline after this. Goodbye, Anthony.

1:23:50 Bye. Hello. Loveline is brought to you by the 2004 College Music Awards, presented by the US. Navy. Vote now on your cell phone, text CMA to 75423 or go to thecollegemusicawards.com.

1:24:21 Stryker This beat, Drew. All right, Stryker here on Loveline with Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. Drew, that was fun with Anthony.

1:24:32 Drew That was fun.

1:24:33 Stryker They've sold millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of records. It is unbelievable. And what's so cool, I think, is they're from my backyard. Like literally, the high school he went to, uni before he went to Fairfax is where all my brothers went. I couldn't go to that school. I had to go to a different one because all my friends went to the Pali school and I got a permit to go. But anyway, just crazy seeing someone from your backyard just blowing up. I know it's unbelievable. How do you think he's doing?

1:25:05 Drew Outstanding.

1:25:06 Stryker You being in...

1:25:07 Drew Oh yeah, that's what recovery is supposed to be about. That's what it's about.

1:25:10 Stryker Which is what now?

1:25:12 Drew Just that ease of being able to manage one's own feelings and tell one's own story and own it and be honest and clear and at ease with it. Right. That's it.

1:25:21 Stryker Pretty impressive.

1:25:22 Drew Being a human being. In one's own skin. Here's David, 19.

1:25:27 Caller Hey guys. Well, I discovered there's like a reddish tint to my sperm.

1:25:33 Drew In good times.

1:25:34 Caller Yeah, and...

1:25:36 Drew This is the Thousand Island Syndrome.

1:25:38 Caller What's that?

1:25:40 Stryker I don't know what that is.

1:25:41 Drew Thousand Island dressing.

1:25:42 Stryker Oh, okay. I know the color of it. Oh, that's what it is?

1:25:47 Drew Yeah.

1:25:47 Caller Anyway, there's a little research and I think it's called like hematosporemia, but...

1:25:53 Drew That's what it's called.

1:25:53 Stryker His research, man.

1:25:56 Caller That's something I should be worried about or just wait.

1:25:58 Drew Well, what did your research tell you?

1:25:59 Caller Well, it didn't really tell me. I think it said it's common in some men, like after prostate biopsies, but it didn't say if I should do this, looked at it right away or...

1:26:07 Drew You don't have to be airlifted to a urologist. I would suggest the doctor look at it just to be sure, because there's many, many other different conditions can predispose to this, but the vast majority of times, this is nothing. It's a common thing that usually...

1:26:21 Stryker So is it bad times or good times or no times?

1:26:23 Drew It's no times. Don't worry. I wouldn't sweat it, but get it checked out just for completeness sake, but you do not have to sweat.

1:26:28 Stryker No, you do have to sweat. And the reason is, if you're with a girl and you let loose on the stomach and it's brown and not white, she's gonna be like, what the hell's wrong with you? So what? What do you mean, so what? That's tough to deal with.

1:26:41 Drew All right, it's good to go to check out. They're not gonna be able to do anything to stop it if it's something that occurs occasionally anyway. Just don't take any aspirin or anti-inflammatories. This is Drew 18.

1:26:53 Yeah, Kate, my question is, I've been dating my girlfriend for a little over a year now. And for some reason, I feel like I can't trust her. Why do you think that would be?

1:27:07 Drew Because you're 18?

1:27:10 Caller Yeah, but we won't.

1:27:11 Stryker Because you found a used condom in the car?

1:27:14 Caller No.

1:27:15 Drew Has she been doing anything to lead you to this?

1:27:18 Caller She has a lot of guys that she's been friends with for years.

1:27:22 Drew How's your relationship going?

1:27:26 Caller We're really close and stuff. I mean, we see each other every day. We spend time with each other every day, but we get in quarrels a lot.

1:27:37 Drew I'm not even paying attention. Here's the deal, Drew. You need to have a little talk with her. If you're starting to fight all the time, you're feeling like she's straying, she's giving you some funny vibes, she may be, you know, you're 18, you've been together for a while.

1:27:55 Stryker Maybe she wants out.

1:27:56 Drew Yeah, it's supposed to write its course. And just as we wanted out of that call, maybe she wants out of that relationship.

1:28:01 Stryker I have a question for you about fighting in your relationship.

1:28:03 Drew In your relationship?

1:28:05 Stryker How healthy is it?

1:28:08 Drew If you're fighting fair, you know, and if you are not getting hostile and resentful, then of course, you can't spend a lot of time with somebody and not have a little burst of anger.

1:28:21 Stryker Right. It's got to be healthy if you're over it in 10 minutes.

1:28:27 Drew Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:28:28 Stryker You're like, fine, we're ending it now. And they agree, okay, we're stop fighting now. And then stupid and then you're like, let's go eat.

1:28:33 Drew Yeah, that's fine. Any other questions about your relationship?

1:28:39 Stryker How much is that going to cost me that question?

1:28:41 Drew Zero.

1:28:41 Stryker Because I got an argument today.

1:28:43 Drew And was about?

1:28:45 Stryker I don't want to say the reason why. I was frustrated. What? I was frustrated last night. I wanted to.

1:28:53 Drew Have sex and?

1:28:56 Stryker And she was really tired and I was at a really good mood and I wanted to.

1:28:59 Drew I know, but that's. So I woke up frustrated. I have one piece of advice for you. Yes. Get used to it. This is a very common thing between men and women. And women have, here's the thing I'm often having to coach females, the partners on, which is you don't understand. You don't understand. It's not about you. It's about, there's this biological rhythm and it has to be dealt with. As you have to help him deal with it.

1:29:31 Stryker So I will get frustrated.

1:29:33 Drew Of course. And irritable and angry and stuff. You have to be also understanding that their women's biology is different and you have to kind of contend with that. But there needs to be a compromise. You need to kind of work out together. But there has to be an acceptance of, because women start going, he's hounding me. And all he wants before is no, no.

1:29:50 Caller Right. No.

1:29:51 Caller Oh, is this show taping?

1:29:52 Caller I have to play this segment back.

1:29:54 Drew But it is in that moment that maybe all you're looking for, but it's in you. It's just part of your biology and it has to be dealt with.

1:30:01 Stryker I tried to explain it.

1:30:02 Drew If she doesn't deal with it, God deals with it for you.

1:30:04 Stryker Right. I almost in the middle of the night just went to go watch Cinemax and just like get the job done.

1:30:10 Drew But they take that again as a personal thing.

1:30:12 Stryker Right.

1:30:12 Drew No, no, no. It's a plumbing thing. Right.

1:30:14 Stryker It's a plumbing thing.

1:30:15 It's a plumbing thing.

1:30:16 Stryker I'm backed up, man.

1:30:17 Drew Seriously. He's plumbing's backed up. Women do not have a plumbing that has to be flushed regularly.

1:30:24 No.

1:30:25 Drew They may kind of feel like that sometimes.

1:30:27 Stryker Thank God she's not on the scene. My friend Peter probably is. Whoa.

1:30:32 Easy.

1:30:33 Stryker And that's Redna. Where are we going?

1:30:35 Drew Let's try this.

1:30:38 Adam Yes, son of a bitch.

1:30:40 Caller Hello. Hello.

1:30:43 Drew Hi, what's up?

1:30:45 Caller Hi, OK, you guys are always saying on the air how if someone's had an abusive past or abandoned in their past, that's sort of the relationship they're looking for, right?

1:30:55 Drew Tends to be that case. The sources of terror in childhood become sources of attraction in adolescence and adulthood.

1:31:01 Caller OK, well, I've been married to my wife about six months. She's been in abusive relationships before me. She was abandoned by her dad when she was 10. And now we fight all the time. She just keeps, like, poking at me and, like, just trying to really irritate me.

1:31:16 Drew Right, she's trying to push you away. People that have been through those kinds of relationships can't tolerate closeness. And when they actually are involved with somebody, they have to sabotage it.

1:31:24 Caller OK, well, what am I supposed to do? I mean, I love her to death.

1:31:27 Drew Yeah, I know. Then it's time to commit and get some treatment for her because this isn't something you're going to be able to change on your own. She's had a lot of trauma. It needs treatment. It's not going to change. You're not going to be able to change her. And this relationship is going to be unstable because of what's going on internally in her. Get her to a qualified therapist. There you go.

1:31:44 Stryker Makes sense to me. And how many days do I need to clean pipes? Do you guys need to do that?

1:31:48 Drew Every guy's different. Some guys are on a daily thing.

1:31:53 Stryker If I'm not masturbating, I've got to be every other day with the person.

1:31:57 Drew Maybe every day. I think, he's like, oh my God, I'm at every day. I think two, three times a week. You held you? You're old, you're young. Two, three times a week would be normal. I mean, that's sort of maintenance. You know, it's just prevent frustration.

1:32:11 Stryker Right, prevent frustration, yes.

1:32:13 Drew Yes, all right, take a break. We'll talk more.

1:32:15 Stryker We're gonna take a break. More of the maintenance after this and the tube cleaning, hold on.

1:32:20 Caller All right, guys, here's the deal.

1:32:22 You're looking to hook up, sick of wasting time with the wrong person?

1:32:25 Stryker One call is all you need to make. Call the Dateline.

1:32:28 877-889-DATE.

1:32:30 Stryker Call the Dateline.

1:32:32 Caller 1-800-Call-The-Line.

1:32:50 Stryker Loveline, wrapping it up. Dr. Drew, thank you once again. You make it so easy to come in, not that it's so easy, but you make it comfortable to come in.

1:32:59 Drew Well, you're comfortable to work with.

1:33:01 Stryker Thank you, man, I appreciate it. Also, thanks to Anthony Kiedis for coming in. His book is called Scar Tissue. Look for new chili peppers in 2005. I am Stryker. Thanks to Anderson over there as well. What's his name? We'll come in on Sunday. What's his name?

1:33:15 Drew It's David Allen Grier.

1:33:15 Stryker David Allen Grier. Oh, I know Adam Carolla. I was trying to think of David Allen Grier and Adam. So for Dr. Drew, I am Stryker saying, goodbye. Look, with all my other boyfriends, I've only given them hand jobs.

1:33:26 This has been Loveline.

1:33:31 Caller Loveline, the opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or the station.

1:33:40 Stryker The producer for Loveline is Annie Gold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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