Episode 1000652898683

0:57 Voiceover Online is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually oriented content. Listener discretion is advised.

1:23 Voiceover And we have a new phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191-Dr. Drew, board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Marilyn Manson in the studio tonight.

1:32 Marilyn Manson A addiction specialist and a doctor that is not certified.

1:37 Adam Great to see you, Marilyn.

1:39 Drew Good to see you guys.

1:40 Adam It's always a grab bag around here. I was sitting in the car listening to the end of the Yankees game and I was thinking to myself, huh, what if we have a guest tonight? And then I thought, well, wait a minute, isn't that Ron Jeremy and Christie Canyon? And I thought, I don't know if we have a guest tonight. And then I sat in the car because I was here early. The game is not over yet. And I walked down the hall and producer and met me in the hall and she gave me that. Did you get my message? Which means we have a guest. It's a big guest. And no, I don't know who it is. So you know it is.

2:14 Drew You had to look at the message.

2:16 Adam And the surprise guest, usually the surprise guest is for the people who listen to the show. In this case, it's for the host, too.

2:24 Marilyn Manson If it's any consolation, I found out about 15 minutes before I got here too. I thought it was supposed to be another day.

2:31 Adam It wasn't on the list, was it? No. All right. Well, anyway, a pleasant surprise. Marilyn Manson is here. Last time Marilyn was here, he was drinking Absinthe. I had a taste. Well, Marilyn did that thing where he said, hey, buddy, I got you a gift. And I said, no, what's that? And he says, it's Absinthe. It's great. Gets you a nice high. And I said, oh, that's nice. I'll enjoy that at home. And he said, why don't you give it a little taste? And then Marilyn drank three quarters of the bottle. And I had a little taste and it's a weird buzz.

3:01 Marilyn Manson It's pleasant.

3:02 Adam It's pleasant.

3:02 Marilyn Manson Yeah.

3:03 Adam Yeah.

3:03 Marilyn Manson If the world had some today, if the world.

3:05 Adam Oh, you did.

3:06 Marilyn Manson Yeah.

3:06 Adam Now, are you into it? Are you strung out on it? Are you addicted to it?

3:10 Marilyn Manson I could say I'm addicted to it. I'm not strung out on it.

3:14 Adam You're addicted to it. Like a day doesn't go by that you don't have a little taste.

3:18 Marilyn Manson This is that's probably true.

3:19 Adam Yeah. I got the same thing with red wine. The really Anderson says wine over ever.

3:25 Marilyn Manson We'll see what happens with absence. Sometimes you don't get a hangover because you just play it through and you don't go to sleep. There's no hangover. I guess if you never stop drinking, you don't wake up.

3:36 Adam Why is it illegal or is it illegal here?

3:39 Marilyn Manson It's becoming trendy. There'll probably be like a new WB show. Not absent. There's only now. There's a misconception because in the day it was poorly distilled and it was like moonshine.

3:55 Adam Oh, really?

3:56 Marilyn Manson So it would just make your hair fall out.

3:59 Adam Oh, so it was more of a quality than it was the actual properties of it.

4:03 Marilyn Manson It's the wormwood that's in it is the redeeming factor or the, you know, it's the part that makes you high. Or it's actually, you know, it's in the Bible too. It's what God sent down to poison the waters because mankind was full of sin.

4:19 Adam Oh, really?

4:20 Marilyn Manson If you like that sort of thing.

4:21 Adam I thought he took a leak in it. I didn't know he'd actually dumped the absence in there. Is that in there, Drew?

4:27 Drew I have not read that.

4:28 Marilyn Manson But I think I've read the word for it.

4:30 Adam Oh, he put the wormwood in there. Marilyn, I heard as I was walking in tonight, is looking for an opening band for the tour, which is kicking off in like a week or five days. When's the tour kicking off?

4:46 Marilyn Manson Not the opening band. But yeah, the tour starts.

4:49 Adam Is that something else? Do you have an opening band for your tour?

4:54 Marilyn Manson The tour starts in...

4:57 Adam When does it start? I don't know.

4:59 Marilyn Manson Next week.

5:00 Adam It starts in late August and we're in sort of... I mean, sorry, October. I'm sorry.

5:05 Drew Late October.

5:07 Adam And we're getting there now.

5:08 Marilyn Manson Next week.

5:09 Adam Next week. And you have an opening band.

5:11 Marilyn Manson Something like that.

5:12 Adam We're not supposed to talk about...

5:13 Marilyn Manson It's not really required. We're doing a very intimate setting, kind of bringing back a lot of things we haven't done in a long time because it's the best stuff. And I'm digging out some of the anti-Christ superstar era.

5:30 Adam And is that stuff like costumes and props and stuff? Is that mothballed? Do you have to get that out of the public storage place?

5:37 Marilyn Manson It was in the first place, yeah. No, actually, yeah, I don't want to tell too much about what it is, but I did dig out some of the stuff that... I brought out some of my old clothes that were stained with things that I'm not really sure, but... Still blood. Blood, you know. Yes, a lot of DNA. A lot of male protein on there. Speaking of which, I had a wet dream this morning.

6:02 Drew Which is amazing.

6:03 Marilyn Manson Yeah. Isn't that? So I did an applause for that.

6:05 Drew Remarkable. Do you remember the dream?

6:07 Marilyn Manson I'm not sure exactly what it was, but it was something... And I don't want my fiancé to be jealous because it was a dream. Because I think she was there kind of moderating.

6:20 Drew Wet dreams are never involving people. Rarely.

6:22 Marilyn Manson No, this doesn't have people in it.

6:23 Drew But not people you really are into.

6:25 Marilyn Manson It was like in...

6:27 Drew It was random, yeah. Males in it.

6:28 Marilyn Manson You know, McDonald's has those...

6:30 Adam Big ball tanks?

6:31 Marilyn Manson Yeah.

6:32 Adam Yeah.

6:32 Marilyn Manson Something like that.

6:33 Drew Ball tanks. And little balls with the kids jumping around.

6:37 Adam Yeah, the big, big, big tanks filled with balls.

6:40 Marilyn Manson And Charlize Theron was doing a handstand.

6:42 Drew In the balls. In the balls.

6:43 Adam I said big ball tanks, not big ball tanks.

6:46 Drew I know. Yes.

6:48 Adam But...

6:49 Marilyn Manson And Charlize Theron was doing a handstand.

6:51 Adam No, you're making that up.

6:51 Marilyn Manson No, I'm not making that up. That's really true.

6:53 Adam Really?

6:53 Marilyn Manson But I think it's because I saw this video that my bass player had. And it was called... No, there was some sort of sexual experiment going on.

7:02 Drew And that caused the omission.

7:04 Marilyn Manson The omission.

7:05 Drew The handstand.

7:06 Marilyn Manson That's like the omission test. But I didn't enjoy it, huh? So the weird thing is that I saw this video the night before. Have you seen it? It's called the Helicopter. It's this Japanese porn star. And I'll try and describe it within the limitations. There's a woman laying face down. He's on top of her. And he manages to spin around like a helicopter while having sex. It's amazing.

7:33 Drew Wow.

7:33 Marilyn Manson Maybe that inspired it.

7:35 Drew He spins, not she.

7:36 Marilyn Manson He spins. Yes. And he's also hairless.

7:41 Adam He's hairless because he's Japanese. And he's on top of her and he's spinning like the propeller on Drew's beanie.

7:48 Drew My beanie.

7:49 Adam Yeah. Yeah.

7:50 Marilyn Manson And he's lodged by his member and he spins. Right. There's no liftoff.

7:57 Drew Does she inverted?

8:00 Marilyn Manson She's laying there with her rear end in the air.

8:02 Drew So she's on the end in the air.

8:04 Marilyn Manson Yeah.

8:04 Adam I see.

8:05 Marilyn Manson Yeah, there's a little bit of a helicopter, like a teeter totter fuselage. Right.

8:11 Adam No, no. I mean, I think what Marilyn is saying is you need a sort of point.

8:15 Drew You need to be off the ground. Yeah.

8:16 Adam A point to twist on. And is he doing it in like, is he consistently going around or is he flinging?

8:23 Marilyn Manson He goes both ways.

8:24 Adam Really?

8:25 Marilyn Manson And I'm not sure if he even used the same. He might have did like a little push to get going, but.

8:30 Adam Wow.

8:31 Marilyn Manson It's pretty amazing.

8:32 Adam Yeah.

8:32 Marilyn Manson So that might have inspired it. I have no idea.

8:34 Adam It couldn't have hurt. And you got to have a certain, you have sort of gymnast like strength.

8:39 Marilyn Manson Dr. Drew is really fascinated by this. I was too.

8:42 Drew I was just managing zero gravity because then it would just be infinite.

8:46 Adam Well you know what we're thinking would be cool.

8:48 Marilyn Manson What happens if it doesn't stay solid or just the darn it could pull off? He could fly off and hit himself on like a pottery barn.

8:56 Drew Right, right.

8:57 Marilyn Manson Wicker chair or something.

9:00 Adam I was, I don't know how we got into it. We were talking about porn and we're talking about zero gravity and porn and we thought it would be an ultimate porn is if you got the money to go in that plane that does the art that does the, you get 30 seconds of zero gravity and do it to film space movies in and train astronauts.

9:18 Marilyn Manson Like the cross-eyed Backstreet Boy.

9:21 Adam Yeah, yeah. Well, he wants to go to space.

9:24 Drew It's actually a plane that makes you waitless for a few seconds because it just goes, it just drops.

9:29 Marilyn Manson That's horrible. That's like that demon drop, right?

9:33 Adam It's a plane that's, and I think NASA commissioned it or something. It's like a DC-10 or something. They gut the fuselage. They fill it with, it's all padded and they put astronauts in. And like, I think when Tom Hanks made that like space movie, they would shoot those zero gravity scenes that weren't in space when they did that. And if you think about it, how else would you shoot that? If you can't go to outer space and, you know, there's no wires. So you get like 30 seconds of zero gravity because the plane does a huge arc and it just creates zero gravity for, I guess, 30, 40 seconds. Something like that. The point is, is you time your orgasm with the zero gravity.

10:09 Marilyn Manson And you get a face full of...

10:10 Adam You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying you got a porn movie.

10:13 Drew What's really...

10:14 Marilyn Manson I think a friend of mine lost a testicle up inside of himself on one of those droppings.

10:18 Drew No, that'll happen anyway. It just happens naturally.

10:20 Adam Wow.

10:21 Drew But I find it amazing that we both spontaneously brought up zero gravity in pornography and we've never ever done that.

10:28 Marilyn Manson With me too.

10:28 Adam No.

10:29 Drew You know what I mean?

10:30 Marilyn Manson It's weird.

10:31 Adam Well, it's called Kismet or Jismet. Marilyn Manson in the studio tonight. We will hop on the phones. We'll hear something off the Lest We Forget, which is the best of for Marilyn Manson and all that. But first, we'll take some phone calls. Brittany, 21?

10:53 What's up?

10:54 Marilyn Manson Hi, Brittany.

10:55 Like I was saying, like, I just had anal sex and I want to know if it was safe to do it with condoms or not.

11:00 Adam No, with the Japanese guy spinning around on top of you.

11:03 Drew Wait a minute. You just had it.

11:05 I just had anal sex like three hours ago.

11:09 Drew Three hours ago.

11:10 Adam Good times.

11:10 Yes.

11:10 Drew And what's your question?

11:12 I want to know if it's safe to do it with condoms or not, and lotions or... We didn't use any lotions or condoms.

11:20 Adam Oh, you didn't?

11:21 Drew So, Brittany, hang on a second here.

11:23 Marilyn Manson How did you get to the... Can I ask just how... Was there any... was there something before the anal sex or did he just go right for the butt?

11:32 Oh, he started licking it and I just did it.

11:34 Marilyn Manson This guy's a champ.

11:35 Adam Wow.

11:36 Yeah.

11:37 Drew But you... What are you asking us that somehow magically by telling you having anal sex without a condom is okay, it's going to make it okay? No.

11:48 I looked at some pictures of some asses.

11:52 Marilyn Manson Are you watching Oz?

11:54 Drew You know it's not okay, right? You can get a... that's the best way to get an STD, right? What?

12:01 Marilyn Manson But you got to... a girl that'll do that is a strong woman and you have to reward them with jewelry.

12:08 Drew I almost can't believe it. Is this possible?

12:10 Adam She's just dumb. Britney.

12:12 Yeah.

12:12 Adam Who is the guy? Is he your boyfriend?

12:14 My boyfriend, yeah. He lives across the street. He's listening.

12:19 Drew And you've done... you've been sexually active with him before and all of a sudden you guys progress to this thing, right?

12:25 Yeah, I was kind of ovulating, so we just got kind of horny and wanted to get some more out.

12:30 Adam Oh, no, you weren't ovulating.

12:31 Drew You were having your period. Ovulating happened a couple weeks ago.

12:34 Adam I'm going to go out on a limb here. Pre-med? Britney?

12:38 Drew No, PhD in biochemistry. Hold on a second.

12:44 Adam Junior College.

12:45 Drew No. Does he have a car?

12:47 Adam I don't believe it. I cannot believe this is a product of Junior College. I refuse to believe it, Drew.

12:53 Drew Even she, though, pushes the limits of what that institution can produce.

12:56 Marilyn Manson I think it's Oz. That show Oz can really put a dent in kids' minds.

13:01 Adam She may be on like a basketball scholarship at a Junior College. Like if you can picture the dumbest of the dumb. Britney? Are you on scholarship over there at the Junior College?

13:15 No. There is scholarship.

13:17 Drew JC doesn't really cost anything, does it?

13:19 Adam I know, but I was trying to think of the dumbest students amongst the dumb populace. You know what I'm saying? It's like in the prison, there's the killers and then there's the serial killers.

13:30 Drew Right.

13:31 Adam So you see what I'm saying?

13:33 Drew So let's be very concrete, very specific with Brandon. That is that of course, anal sex without a condom is much riskier than with a condom. You're not going to get pregnant, but you can get STDs and as you said, you've seen pictures of asses that have had anal sex and indeed, yes, you can get hemorrhoids and fissures and prolapse and all kinds of lovely things.

13:51 Adam Ew.

13:52 Marilyn Manson You might have seen a picture of my ass, but I haven't had that on me. I've delivered it though.

13:58 Adam Yeah. He delivers to your fissures. He doesn't get them. You know what I mean? I will deliver. That's a fissure, not a promise, my friend. I mean a promise, not a fissure.

14:09 Drew So, Brandon, you did this thing as with a boyfriend. He has no STDs. You guys have been together a while. Is that right?

14:14 I feel bad now.

14:17 Adam No, no. You're okay.

14:18 Drew Why didn't you?

14:19 Adam You're fine.

14:20 Drew As you know, here's the thing.

14:21 Adam She was ovulating.

14:22 Drew Yeah, I know.

14:23 Marilyn Manson She's having her period.

14:24 Drew Little robotussin. The anal sex is less disturbing to somebody than having sex with your period.

14:29 Adam You know what I mean? It's a decent point.

14:35 Marilyn Manson It depends on if you want to do Dracula or Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

14:39 Drew Right.

14:40 Adam And you're staring at a spent condom. I mean, tampon the whole time.

14:45 Drew Either way.

14:46 Adam Either way.

14:47 Drew But here's the deal. I think it was just her boyfriend using the leverage of the moment, as it were, to sort of get his opportunity, to wedge his opportunity into this.

14:57 Marilyn Manson 21?

14:58 Drew She's 21. She's an adult.

14:59 Adam And by the way, hold on. Brittany, any children?

15:01 Caller No children.

15:04 Drew Good girl.

15:04 Adam Let's get out of junior college and get a job. All right. Huh?

15:09 Caller I have a job.

15:11 Adam All right. Why are you going to junior college? You want to be a cop?

15:18 Marilyn Manson Well, that's good. The anal sex, that comes in handy in police work.

15:22 Adam You don't have to go to junior college to be a cop.

15:27 Marilyn Manson But you do have to have anal sex. You're a Mormon?

15:30 Adam Yeah, but they teach you that at the academy.

15:32 All right, Brittany.

15:33 Adam Listen.

15:34 Marilyn Manson You see, Brittany, you're...

15:37 Adam You're a chick. They're dying to get chicks on the force, right? All right.

15:45 Drew She needs to sort of raise her profile with JC.

15:49 Adam Yeah.

15:49 Drew You know, make herself a little more presentable. No, no, make her a little more presentable in terms of her use of language and things.

15:53 Marilyn Manson Jesus Christ?

15:56 Drew Junior college.

15:57 Adam By the way, a little finishing school wouldn't hurt a lot of the ladies we speak to. I know it sounds sexist and kind of...

16:06 Drew Like...

16:08 Adam Well, like, you know, like, I hate when chicks say, like, he was giving me head, that always bothers me.

16:14 Drew She said we had to just find another hole. Find another hole.

16:17 Marilyn Manson No, she said find something else to stick it in.

16:19 Drew Fantasy of fantasy.

16:19 Marilyn Manson That's like a...

16:20 Drew Lovely.

16:20 Marilyn Manson The garden.

16:21 Drew Poetic, poetic. What use of prose? I mean, it's amazing.

16:24 Adam All right. Let's talk to Marlee, who's... 18. Marlee? You're 18. Got a question for Marilyn?

16:35 Caller You were in the movie Party Monster. Did you get down 04 last... No, I mean, was it 04 this year?

16:41 Marilyn Manson I'm not good with math, but, yes, I was in Party Monster.

16:45 Adam I think it came out earlier this year.

16:48 Marilyn Manson Yeah, it was just a small part, but...

16:50 Caller No, it was a great movie. You're playing Christine, right?

16:53 Marilyn Manson Yes, which was a real person, so it's... I didn't want to be caricature of someone who's really alive, but I did watch some videotapes. It was a strange, a preoperative transsexual with a fake German accent.

17:08 Adam Really? Could you do a fake German accent?

17:10 Marilyn Manson Well, I did at the time, yeah.

17:12 Drew Did they ever coach you in that kind of thing for it? Or did you just figure it out?

17:15 Marilyn Manson No, no. I usually just walk around the house in a blonde wig doing that anyways. But the best part was that, you know, and it's a drug addict, and they wanted to drug test me, you know, for insurance for the film, so I thought that was kind of amusing. Oh, really?

17:27 Adam How'd you do?

17:29 Marilyn Manson I didn't... You didn't do it?

17:31 Adam I didn't do it. You whizzed pure absence?

17:35 Marilyn Manson I said, you either want me or you don't. That's good. And Macaulay Culkin bought me my first pack of cigarettes. Look where he is now.

17:41 Adam Oh, yeah. I got busted for stealing something in Oklahoma. Wasn't even my fault.

17:47 Marilyn Manson What did you need to know about... Do you have a question?

17:50 Adam Yeah. What did you need to know, Marley?

17:52 Caller I'm just wondering how it was working with Paul Culkin, especially since you hadn't done a movie in so long and it's completely different from Home Alone and stuff, you know? It's a real movie and it's really intense.

18:03 Marilyn Manson He's nice, he's very shy about going out in public and I think he was really concerned about how the movie would be used because he appears with his ass showing in a lot of... He knows that there's a large, older, perverted man following of him. Yeah.

18:28 Adam Makes sense, makes sense.

18:30 Marilyn Manson But it was a strange concern that I never thought of because I'm sure that there are lots of people that I don't know who...

18:38 Adam Well, we can't judge. I mean, we just can't, but...

18:41 Marilyn Manson I liked it.

18:42 Drew Do those people ever do anything to him?

18:44 Marilyn Manson I have no idea.

18:45 Adam Well, they just beat off to Home Alone millions of times.

18:49 Marilyn Manson Whoa.

18:50 Adam Yeah. Oh, they're out there, Drew.

18:52 Drew I know. I mean, Huma is just a wonderful instrument.

18:55 Adam Yeah, but I don't know if they have any use for him now that he's like 23, you know?

19:01 Marilyn Manson You know what?

19:01 Adam He looks young, but...

19:02 Marilyn Manson He's in the phenomenon. I had this obsession with Patrick Dempsey for a while because he's like a Ralph Macho, these guys that don't ever play men.

19:09 Adam Right.

19:09 Marilyn Manson Dempsey's now... He plays a man in movies.

19:12 Adam Yeah.

19:12 Marilyn Manson But McCauley's still playing a younger fellow.

19:16 Drew Everyone... I've met him, you've met him. Everyone's ever worked with him, says he's a real nice guy.

19:19 Adam Yeah. It seems a little weird, but yeah.

19:21 Drew Dempsey used to be...

19:23 Adam Dempsey was my neighbor, by the way.

19:25 Marilyn Manson And I stole the Patrick Dempsey parking thing from Blockbuster. I have that.

19:30 Adam Oh, you did?

19:30 Marilyn Manson If you need it anytime.

19:31 Adam I took him out tool shopping once. I remember that. I tried to make a man of him.

19:35 Marilyn Manson He was the woo-woo kid.

19:36 Adam Ironically. Yeah. Yeah, nice guy. Smoked a little weed.

19:39 Marilyn Manson When you're a teenager, you look at that and you think, I want to be like him. But now, no, I don't want to be like him.

19:44 Adam Watched Karate... Watched about half a karate kid.

19:47 Drew Together?

19:48 Adam No. Tonight, actually. It was funny that you brought Ralph Macchio up as well. And I was thinking about him. Sure not becoming a guy. Or a man, I should say.

19:56 Marilyn Manson But were you masturbating?

19:58 Adam I got... I actually was, but I was thinking about... What's your name in the pit of balls at the McDonald's? Oh, Charlie's the run.

20:07 Drew The other thing that nobody talks about in terms of celebrities and who they are and how they are, sort of emotionally and whatnot, is who they are dating speaks volumes. Probably more than anything else about who they are. And Mila Kunis is a nice woman.

20:18 Marilyn Manson Yes.

20:18 Drew And that's his girlfriend. And that says something about him.

20:21 Marilyn Manson I invited them over to my house and I think she got offended at some point and wanted to leave. Why?

20:28 Drew I can't imagine you have anything offensive with your husband.

20:30 Marilyn Manson I'm shocked you got offended. I don't know if I said something or I think I was watching Uncle Goddamn. I don't know if I could say that. It's a movie where these people that live in a trailer park in North Carolina tape up their uncle and set him on fire and spray paint him. I don't know if it was that or if it was my decor.

20:50 Drew What's your decor like?

20:51 Marilyn Manson That's too much to get into.

20:54 Drew This is a film of somebody actually being murdered?

20:57 Marilyn Manson No, no, not murdered. They were just setting him on fire while he was drunk and passed out. Oh, I see.

21:02 Drew They didn't kill him then?

21:04 Marilyn Manson No, but he is dead now. But it's strange because it's in the middle of the afternoon. There's kids laughing, great whites playing in the background or like ACDC live. So, you know, these are people that really mean business when it comes to heavy metal and the haircuts that go with it.

21:21 Adam What is the decor at your home, by the way?

21:24 Caller What's the name of that film?

21:24 Marilyn Manson Well, I just moved, so the decor is kind of unfinished.

21:29 Caller What was the name of that film?

21:31 Drew Oh, Anderson wants to go get it.

21:32 Marilyn Manson It's Uncle God Damn. I think it has a web. There's a website for it, actually.

21:37 Adam Alright, Marilyn Manson here. I think we can hear Marilyn Manson's song.

21:41 Marilyn Manson Sure.

21:42 Adam We got enough time.

21:42 Marilyn Manson Yeah.

21:45 Adam You want to call Anderson?

21:46 Drew Yeah, I'm going to call Anderson Uncle God Damn from now on. That would be a good nickname for him, wouldn't it?

21:50 Caller Yeah, for Manson we could play his song. Let's go.

21:52 Adam Alright. Chris, you ready to go? This is off the Best Of. It's called Personal Jesus. Yeah. Marilyn Manson, everybody. In studio tonight, lest we forget, name of the new CD, it's the best of CD. It is Out As We Speak. Marilyn is in studio with us tonight. We'll take a quick break, and I want to talk to her. Someone has to take a polygraph test as part of probation for sex with a minor.

25:38 Marilyn Manson Leave the country.

25:39 Adam That sounds all right. And then Jordan's a confused virgin. Nick, Jessica, still totally obsessed with ex-boyfriend. I will talk to you about that one in the polygraph. All right. After this.

25:54 Caller My hair. My hair.

25:55 Adam We'll be right back. Dr. Drew, board sir, how's that? Marilyn Manson in studio tonight. Hello. Surprise to him, surprise to me and us, but not to Drew.

26:29 Drew No, surprise to me.

26:31 Adam Drew, a surprise to everyone. All right, well, that producer, Ann, doing her job. Tried to call me, but couldn't get hold of me.

26:38 Drew Shocking, that's shocking.

26:40 Adam I know.

26:41 Drew Given the fact that you never turn your ringer off, you always check your voicemail.

26:45 Marilyn Manson He's like rock and roll.

26:46 Adam Yeah, I just, here's the whole thing. Too cool for school. I just-

26:50 Marilyn Manson I'm more responsible than you.

26:51 Adam Well, here's, scary, but probably true. But if you think about it, when the phone rings, there's a 10% chance it's gonna be something you wanna hear. 80% chance it's gonna be something you really don't care about. And then the 10% where it's gonna be some tragedy or something, like grandma passed, it's the middle of the night kind of thing. But really, if you think about it, what are you gonna do? You know what I mean?

27:17 Marilyn Manson Don't you have caller ID?

27:19 Adam Yeah, but everyone's got the private thing on.

27:21 Marilyn Manson Be there to support your family. But you gotta get that thing where you have to unblock it.

27:26 Adam Yeah.

27:26 Marilyn Manson That's the way to go.

27:27 Adam I like that. I should do that. Drew, do you have that?

27:30 Drew Yeah.

27:30 Adam You know what I, you know, two things I want to talk about.

27:32 Marilyn Manson And you can make yours say something that's not exactly you. Mine says something very...

27:38 Adam Oh, really?

27:39 Marilyn Manson Drew would enjoy that. I don't, should I say it? Will that somehow identify me?

27:43 Adam No. I don't know, but no.

27:45 Marilyn Manson I'll have to change it. I'll tell you later. All right. It says psychiatrist that did a lot of drugs.

27:51 Adam Oh, really? You mean Timothy Leary?

27:53 Marilyn Manson No. The penis guy.

27:56 Adam Kinsey?

28:00 Marilyn Manson Thanks. Now I got to change my number.

28:02 Adam You know what we did? See, we went too deep.

28:05 Drew Yes, yes.

28:06 Adam You went deep like a kiss with a girl.

28:08 Drew We went too...

28:09 Adam Yeah, we should have just kept it easy and obvious. But let me let me just say this. It was... When's the last time we saw a potato bug? Remember this huge... They're like beetles. They got this big round heads and those pinchers, mandibles in front of them.

28:26 Marilyn Manson Not in any time recently.

28:27 Drew I had a dream about one of those last night.

28:29 Marilyn Manson You did?

28:31 Adam You had a dream about a potato bug last night?

28:33 Drew Yeah, the potato bug meets tarantula.

28:34 Adam Was that a wet dream? Really?

28:36 Drew No, it was lying dead on a floor somewhere and I had to clean it up. I thought, how am I going to clean this thing up?

28:40 Adam Yeah, potato bugs have the heads that are round like grapes, you know?

28:44 Marilyn Manson They're almost like a dog.

28:46 Adam They're small, they're like Paris Hilton's dog.

28:48 Drew Two huge teeth.

28:49 Adam They're mandevils.

28:50 Caller They're called Jerusalem crickets.

28:52 Adam Yeah, they call them Jerusalem crickets. I would call them my potato bugs.

28:54 Drew Out here, yeah.

28:55 Adam I hadn't seen one since my childhood. I found one today and they're so big that they actually make noise when they walk. And I didn't, you know, you can't crush a potato bug. You got to blow it up or something like you have to harpoon it.

29:13 Drew You can't pick them up. They're too huge.

29:14 Marilyn Manson You set them on fire.

29:15 Adam I should have. What I ended up doing was like...

29:20 Marilyn Manson Or put salt on them.

29:22 Adam Would that work? Putting salt on them?

29:25 Marilyn Manson I don't know, but my keyboard player told me that if you're ever worried about someone when you're having sex, he used to go to college, he'd squirt a lemon on a girl when he was going down below. And if she screamed...

29:37 Adam Open wound. Open source.

29:39 Marilyn Manson Close for business.

29:40 Adam That's right. That's right.

29:41 Marilyn Manson Checks in the mail. Is that a good... What do you do? Do you like that method?

29:45 Adam And a little lemon on the calamari.

29:47 Drew I was just thinking the oyster, yeah.

29:49 Marilyn Manson Nothing wrong with that. Not for flavor.

29:52 Drew But incidentally.

29:54 Adam Yeah, but you know, unfortunately, I think it's mucosal and I think it's like squirting a lemon in your eye.

30:00 Drew Yes.

30:01 Adam You need a cut in your eye.

30:02 Drew Yes.

30:02 Adam You'd still scream.

30:03 Marilyn Manson I know that I poured Jack Daniels down my chest once and when it hit downstairs, it didn't feel good. So you can try that too.

30:11 Adam No, the sack is a sponge. I got gasoline on my sack once, burnt me, burnt my eggs real good. But the point is this.

30:17 Drew A new saw in the sack is a sponge.

30:19 Adam I wanted to, I wanted to, I was trying to get rid of this potato bug and all I could do is sort of try to get it to go up on this little piece of wood and then I was going to fling it sort of out of the room. But I ended up shooting it like a hockey puck, you know, and I kept, just kept, it just slide and bang and it was something and I just don't feel bad for it, but I, you can't crush it. I didn't know what to do with it.

30:40 Marilyn Manson What is the freezer?

30:41 Adam I couldn't get it. I couldn't get it. I, I ended up getting it and flinging it into the neighbor's yard.

30:47 Drew Oh, perfect. Yes.

30:49 Adam But I just thought, I haven't, you know, but that's, that's the biggest insect there is and not just size-wise, but just volume. Like water displacement test, potato bug, about the size of a raccoon.

31:00 Marilyn Manson Yeah.

31:00 Adam Just crazy.

31:01 Marilyn Manson It's like the size of when you're 14, your penis.

31:04 Adam Yeah. Oh, yeah. For me.

31:06 Marilyn Manson Or other people.

31:06 Adam That's erect. That's erect. But the round, the big round head with the eyes, big eyes there in the mandible there. All right, Drew. Drew had a dream about a potato bug.

31:17 Drew And saw a raccoon at Magic Mountain. What's going on here?

31:21 Adam It's all coming together.

31:22 Drew It's about me living inside your head.

31:23 Adam It's all coming together. Marilyn, I had a wet dream. I had a great time at Magic Mountain. Did a little free fall, did you?

31:32 Drew I did.

31:32 Adam Good times. I'm too scared to do that one. I can't take it.

31:36 Drew Oh, but now they've got right there. It's just crazy.

31:38 Marilyn Manson I went to Japanese Disneyland and all of the songs were in Japanese. It was very disturbing.

31:43 Adam Small World and stuff like that?

31:45 Marilyn Manson Oh yeah.

31:46 Adam In Japanese?

31:46 Marilyn Manson Oh yeah.

31:47 Adam And they had that ride where the guy got on top of the chick and spun around while he was in it.

31:51 Marilyn Manson The country bears.

31:53 Adam The helicopter on it. Yeah.

31:55 Marilyn Manson The line for that one was really nice.

31:57 Adam Oh yeah.

31:58 All right.

32:00 Adam Elizabeth. You're 26?

32:03 Caller Yeah.

32:04 Adam You have vaginal itching?

32:07 Caller Unfortunately.

32:09 Adam Marilyn's bass player would squeeze a lemon on.

32:11 Marilyn Manson I don't have herpes.

32:13 Caller Don't need to worry about that.

32:15 Drew What's the deal here, Elizabeth?

32:17 Caller Well, back in March, I found out that I had HPV. Right. Warts. Yeah. So, I went to the gyno, everything, they did a coloscopy on me and then they did thyro on me.

32:31 Drew Cryo, uh-huh.

32:32 Caller Yeah. And then ever since then, I've had bad vaginal itching. I went back to the doctor. She thought it was a bacterial infection. I was on antibiotics. That didn't work. So, I went back again and she gave me another prescription and then I had the same problem. And now I don't have insurance. So, I'm waiting until I can go back to see her.

32:54 Drew Or you want any hormones, birth control pills, anything like that?

32:57 Caller I'm not, no.

32:58 Marilyn Manson Do you wear jeans?

33:00 Caller I do.

33:01 Drew Have you tried anti-yeast medicine?

33:03 Caller Yep. I've tried almost everything. I have bought the Vagacil anti-itch cream. That helps sometimes, but not all the time.

33:13 Drew Are you continuing to be sexually active with your boyfriend?

33:15 Caller No. I actually, the guy that gave it to me, I haven't seen him for two years.

33:21 Drew So you're not having sex with anybody?

33:23 Caller Nope.

33:24 Drew And you're not having sex with your jeans? Yeah, your vagina's not getting exposed, any latex or anything? So we've tried the antibacterial, what kind of underwear?

33:38 Marilyn Manson Just out of my own curiosity.

33:40 Drew All that's heading for yeast though.

33:42 Caller No, Victoria's Secret undies, you know?

33:45 Marilyn Manson Really? That might be the secret.

33:47 Adam Hey, oh, yeah, let me say this, by the way, I don't know why it reminded me, but you know, once a year somebody models a $10 million Victoria's Secret bra.

33:56 Marilyn Manson Also, question. I'm sorry, don't know. Sure, go ahead.

33:59 Drew Shaving, unshaven?

34:01 Adam Shaving.

34:02 Marilyn Manson Shaving.

34:03 Adam There you go, Drew. Look that up in the literature.

34:06 Marilyn Manson I get a little itch when I shave, Drew.

34:08 Adam You shaved down there, Marilyn?

34:10 Drew Well, but I'm looking, I've just pulled out an article that they published in the New England Journal a couple months ago about chronic vulvo-vaginal candid, it's a chronic yeast infection. And this article talked about how frequent that is. For some women, it takes quite a bit more to clear it up than just the usual yeast creams. They're actually recommending a medicine called fluconazole or diflucan and that's something you got to get from a doctor or a clinic.

34:36 Adam They also have it at the coin op car wash I think too, you just hit the button.

34:40 Caller Can Planned Parenthood help me or I don't know where to go?

34:42 Drew Yeah, Planned Parenthood and you can make sure you document exactly what you've had done and what you've tried. But weekly diflucan has been associated with a cure for this kind of thing if it is in fact due to Canada.

34:55 Adam That's Canada.

34:56 Marilyn Manson Canada?

34:57 Adam That's what they call it. Canada, right?

34:59 Drew Yep.

35:00 Adam That's yeast, right?

35:01 Marilyn Manson Right. So the whole country of Canada?

35:03 Adam Canada.

35:04 Drew Oh Canada.

35:05 Adam Oh Canada. Where does that come from?

35:08 Caller Yeast?

35:09 Adam No, Canada.

35:10 Drew The name?

35:11 Adam Yeah. Oh boy.

35:12 Marilyn Manson Candid. It's got the word candid in it. It means don't tell.

35:16 Adam Chelsea?

35:17 Caller Yeah. Hey.

35:18 Adam You're 16? You have a corset question for Marilyn Manson?

35:24 Marilyn Manson Oh, how can I help?

35:26 Caller I was wondering like, okay, first I want to like congratulate you on your engagement.

35:31 Marilyn Manson Thank you.

35:32 Caller Yeah. And, yeah, I think you're awesome. And I haven't seen that name of you in my room. And it's huge. And I love you.

35:40 Marilyn Manson Thank you.

35:41 Caller You wear a corset? Yeah.

35:45 Marilyn Manson It hurts, huh?

35:46 Caller Not really.

35:47 Marilyn Manson It feels good. Oh, that's good.

35:49 Adam It does.

35:49 Marilyn Manson Yeah.

35:50 Adam I think in a mansion, maybe it'd feel like wearing a back, like, you know, the guys who work at the lumber yard have that lower back brace.

35:56 Caller Right.

35:56 Adam Maybe it's that.

35:57 Marilyn Manson Well, when Dita wears it, she gets it down to 16 inches, her waist.

36:02 Caller Yeah, I know.

36:02 Marilyn Manson Wow. I met this guy, Mr. Pearl, who makes corsets. He's very famous. His waist is 12 inches, but he can't take the corset off because your body shapes to it.

36:11 Caller Um, yeah.

36:13 Adam Does he sleep? Does he sleep in it?

36:15 Marilyn Manson It's uncomfortable to take it off because his organs hurt your back like it hurts.

36:19 Adam So if you take it off, like your liver come out, your urethra or something?

36:23 Marilyn Manson I don't know, but that's extreme corsetry.

36:31 Caller Yeah.

36:35 Marilyn Manson You know, I'm not the expert as much as she is, but I think it's a matter of finding one that's made properly.

36:44 Adam The ones that are made different kinds?

36:46 Caller Yeah, not the ones that are like mass produced.

36:49 Marilyn Manson No, and it doesn't have to be expensive, but the ones that are made by someone who knows what they're doing because it has to be a corset maker that makes them. The boning that's in them is very important that it's correct so that you can move in it.

37:07 Adam You get them online or something?

37:09 Marilyn Manson You could find antique ones on eBay, but there's a lot of different places. I think if you wrote to Dita at dita.net, she would be the best to ask because I always have worn medical ones and I wear them improperly, kind of down around the hip.

37:27 Adam What do the medical ones do?

37:30 Marilyn Manson I wore it because I like the way it looks.

37:32 Drew It's good for your back. It's actually to hold the abdominal hernias and things like that.

37:37 Adam Oh, are they called corsets? I thought they were called like a truss or something.

37:41 Drew The truss is down lower, but the corsets are real.

37:42 Adam Oh really? I wouldn't mind sporting one of those. You should get me one of those.

37:46 Marilyn Manson Which one? A lot of guys wear them underneath their business suits probably with lingerie.

37:51 Drew A girdle.

37:52 Adam I also like those neck rings too that those tribes wear in the Amazon jungle.

37:58 Drew To make their necks long?

37:59 Adam Yeah. Women get to get that real long neck going. Get that going.

38:02 Marilyn Manson I don't like the long neck thing.

38:03 Adam Well, get that with the corset. You got a woman there. You got a woman. Let's take a little bit of a break. Marilyn Manson in studio tonight. New CD is out. It's best of. We'll hear something else off of that and talk to him after this.

38:24 Marilyn Manson Hello.

38:28 Adam Drew. What are women most attracted to?

38:31 Marilyn Manson Confident guys.

38:32 Adam That's right. You can't buy that confidence. At least you couldn't until now.

38:36 Drew What do we got?

38:37 Adam You got Axe deodorant body spray.

38:39 Drew Oh my God.

38:39 Adam Spray that on. It's like slathering on the confidence. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Marilyn Manson, joining us in studio tonight. Always good to see Marilyn. Got a new CD out. It's a best of. It's called Lest We Or Ye Forget.

39:19 Marilyn Manson Lest We Forget, which is a kind of a war memorial, Lest We Forget or We Repeat The Pass Up. Right. Kind of my musical document of the war that I've struggled through the ten years to get from.

39:37 Adam Well, it's been ten years, right?

39:40 Marilyn Manson Bush 1 to Bush 2, yeah.

39:42 Adam I'm talking about you personally. You hit and all the controversy began.

39:47 Marilyn Manson I started in 1989.

39:51 Adam But it became prominent national notoriety. What year? Ninety-four? In my head or in reality? In engineer crisis.

40:02 Marilyn Manson I think Sweet Dreams was a best clip on MTV and then Beautiful People. But the real problem started around the Insight Christ Superstar when there was a lot of Christian groups creating a tremendous amount of false rumors that really put my life in danger. So I became completely nihilistic and went, you know, I figured if I'm going to get shot, I'm at least going to annoy.

40:34 Adam It's interesting. You never, I mean, you know, maybe I'm being naive, but Drew, if he's honest, I probably agree with me, which is I never really thought about the danger part of what you were doing. I mean, I always just assumed these fundamental wackos are pissed off or look at Marilyn selling tickets.

40:51 Marilyn Manson We literally, besides the protesting part, which is not as hard. There was so many death threats, at least 100 every show. We would have maybe 35 police with bomb dogs every night.

41:05 Drew You forget when you were in Oregon State when I got attacked by a guy from outside of a team down a stadium to rush the stage.

41:11 Adam Really?

41:12 Drew You weren't there.

41:13 Adam They didn't get you? Son of a bitch.

41:15 Marilyn Manson But it's a straight, this tour.

41:17 Adam Well, I get my money back for that guy.

41:19 Marilyn Manson This tour is kind of bringing back a lot of those memories because we're playing some of these songs we haven't in a while. But I'm actually going to be in Denver on election night and last time I was there was when I did the interview for Bowling for Columbine.

41:31 Adam Well, I got a couple of thoughts. So one is, yeah, I forgot about the part where you, you know, Larry Flint's in a wheelchair because people didn't like what he did, you know, and he was supposed to be in the ground. He just he's lucky and he's in a wheelchair. So I never really thought about that aspect of what you do. The other part is, is as I was talking to someone in a smaller way, but some of the same some of the same details, which is like when we did the man show, we get a lot of complaints and then eventually you just become the man show and or you become Howard Stern or you become Marilyn Manson, which is then expected out of you and you get to do it. You know what I'm saying? Because now you're Marilyn Manson. That's what you do. And Howard Stern does what he does in a smaller way. When we did the man show. Oh, that's it. And Loveline. That's what you do, too. You know, at the beginning, so is what gives you the right and who the hell do you think you are? What do you know? We're going to do this. And now you just become that.

42:31 Marilyn Manson So have do you feel I knew that when I did it, and that's what I wanted. That's that's what I still want.

42:39 Adam You know, you get is you don't get nearly as much crap now as you did 10 years ago, do you?

42:44 Marilyn Manson Because you're Marilyn Manson now, it comes and goes in different ways. And this tour is called Against All Gods because it's now being me seems less evil in some ways considering war being raged over religion and things like that.

43:01 Adam I would argue, though, that it's it's you are accepted the same way Howard Stern is accepted now and you're part of the landscape.

43:11 Marilyn Manson You become the fabric of the culture you're supposed to do words Marilyn Manson were my way of summing up American culture. Now that I'm part of it, you know, I think people don't understand me more necessarily, but they see me in some ways, especially after Bowie for Columbine, as an artist and not just an undescribable entity that's causing problems.

43:34 Adam Right. And he's made, you know, he made the... He's not like a flash in the pan like a sister soldier or someone like that, you know what I mean? He's stood the test of time.

43:46 Marilyn Manson People have been saying for 10 years, aren't you worried that your image is overshadowing the music and I'm always say I'm worried that the music's overshadowing my image. It's all one because what I do is not just one thing. It's how people react to it. It's this interview. It's the way I look.

44:05 Adam Is it... Is there a performance art element of it? Do you ever look at it that way?

44:10 Marilyn Manson Yeah, I look at it like Salvador Dali. He's like his best creation was being Salvador Dali. I like it. It's, you know, it's like being a kid.

44:20 Adam Right.

44:20 Marilyn Manson Living a fantasy, not being ashamed or afraid to do it.

44:24 Adam Right. Well, good times.

44:26 Marilyn Manson And you do that in your own way, too.

44:27 Adam Yeah.

44:28 Drew Oh, he does.

44:28 Adam Yeah.

44:29 Drew Masturbates and naps.

44:32 Adam Freaked out by potato bugs. Yeah. We're going to run around.

44:35 Drew I think I'm very excited about the pictures we just looked at.

44:38 Marilyn Manson You really get conditioned to think that that's wrong, you know? To daydream, to fantasize, to do those things.

44:44 Adam Yeah. Look, you know, I just I never really thought about the aspect of going out on stage and thinking that some religious fundamentalist wacko, the same guys that are shooting abortion clinic doctors, might put the crosshairs on your forehead.

45:00 Marilyn Manson Oh, yeah. Well, I know that every day I step out of my house that that could happen.

45:04 Adam But now, not as, is it as acute as it was eight years ago? I mean, there must have been a time when it was really a much more serious threat.

45:14 Marilyn Manson Christ, I Christ Superstar, I think, was a little bit more to the point for them. So it inflamed them immediately.

45:19 Adam Right.

45:20 Marilyn Manson I think, you know, a lot of different reasons for choosing personal Jesus. But I'm sure they're not real thrilled about that either.

45:26 Adam Right. And is it is it one group in particular or is it just that whole population?

45:32 Marilyn Manson I think I've managed to piss off every type of people in different ways. But that's the point.

45:39 Adam Right.

45:39 Marilyn Manson If everyone loves you, you're not making anything that's powerful to me.

45:43 Adam Can you hear that, Drew?

45:45 Marilyn Manson It has to be hate and love. All of it. It's not extreme.

45:49 Adam Yeah. Look, it's the same with.

45:51 Marilyn Manson If everyone hates you.

45:52 Adam Yeah, it's bad, too. But it's the same with women, though. The worst you could have is someone who's just sort of indifferent, like when you like some chick. Best, she either hates you or is head over heels for you. What you don't want is that, huh, oh, I don't know. Never thought about it. That's the worst. Yes.

46:09 Drew Yes. The need to exist is man's fundamental drive. All right.

46:13 Adam Don't get heavy.

46:14 Drew It's just other people.

46:15 Adam Hold up, Nietzsche. We got to take a break. Marilyn Manson in studio tonight will, now Marilyn was just, you were going to hang for an abbreviated period of time, but you'll hang for one more break, won't you?

46:28 Marilyn Manson Yeah, sure. Or longer. I have an appointment with Dr. Hunter S. Thompson later, so I have to.

46:34 Adam Oh, really? Tonight? You're meeting Hunter S. Thompson tonight?

46:39 Marilyn Manson I might, if I get...

46:41 Drew Get done here in time.

46:42 Adam Oh, okay.

46:42 Marilyn Manson Before 7 a.m.

46:45 Adam We'll take ourselves a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

46:49 Here it is.

46:50 Adam Bottom line, it sucks being single today.

46:52 Tons of lame people and no decent prospects.

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47:31 Adam That's Dr. Drew, Marilyn Manson in studio tonight. New CD, Lest We Forget. It is a best of CD. We're going to hear something else off of that best of CD. Also, a big tour starting in about a week. Yes, Drew.

47:45 Drew A couple of things I want to say. One is we talked about vaginal itching, and I don't think I really adequately address that. I want to just take one minute here and say that there are basically three or four things that can cause vaginal itching. I know it is, but let me just finish it.

47:57 Marilyn Manson I'm not one of them.

47:58 Drew It can be yeast, and there's about 10 percent of people with yeast. The yeast has trouble going away. You have to take a medication, a pill to make it go away, and you may have to take it for a few weeks. The second is a low estrogen. People who take the progesterone shots, the Depo-Provera shots, sometimes you get itching from the progesterone and the low estrogen. Older women get it from low estrogen. You get it from bacterial infection, and so you need to take antibiotics or antibiotic cream. There's a certain percentage that have it for reasons that people don't know. Yeah. That's actually a common problem.

48:27 Marilyn Manson The helicopter thing. The helicopter guy is probably the problem.

48:31 Drew Well, she does. His partner may have some problems.

48:34 Adam Yeah. You good?

48:35 Drew That was that. The other thing is, I have to bring up a trend we had for my kid's birthday party at Magic Mountain. This is a Six Flags out here. That's not boring because it has one of those scary park times and things.

48:48 Adam Yeah.

48:49 Drew There's some really scary dudes working there who seem to get off on scaring the ass out of people.

48:56 Marilyn Manson Oh, you mean at the Haunted House?

48:58 Adam Yeah.

48:58 Marilyn Manson You know this Hell House thing you guys know about this?

49:00 Drew What's that?

49:02 Marilyn Manson I think Bill Maher may be part of it. These Christian radical groups have these haunted houses that are really in bad taste. They have like kids with AIDS and abortions, but they have a room for me where they play my music and kids shooting up the high school. They have one here.

49:21 Adam No, here's what it is. Pardon me for interrupting.

49:24 Marilyn Manson But I made it in the haunted house.

49:26 Adam I'm hip to it. There's an actual thing that they do in, I guess, the Bible Belt.

49:31 Marilyn Manson They send out kits, though.

49:33 Adam So that your church can put this thing on. I don't think it's necessarily a Halloween thing. It's just scared straight for religious kids.

49:42 Marilyn Manson But I went to one, not this one, but I went to a real one.

49:47 Adam Where'd you go? Where was it?

49:49 Marilyn Manson In the Midwest. Did they know it was you going through it?

49:53 Drew It was in bad taste.

49:54 Marilyn Manson It's really bad taste.

49:55 Adam Yeah, this figure was in projects, kind of, with no genitalia and stars on his nipples, but they didn't know it was Marilyn.

50:02 Drew Have his head shaved off.

50:02 Adam Have his head shaved off. No. What they do is this is like for people on the Bible Belt, it's like, here's what goes on in New York City and Los Angeles, and here's why you got to stay religious.

50:14 Marilyn Manson And here are the results.

50:15 Adam And so it's this crazy stuff where people are getting like abortions and there's blood everywhere and people are shooting up and doing drugs.

50:21 Drew It's a sort of Marilyn Manson.

50:23 Marilyn Manson Well, like, yeah, there's one room and it's like two kids having sex, and the next room, the kids like dying of AIDS.

50:29 Adam So there's like a kit that they send out so that you can put this little play on for your church and your flock. And now naturally, LA got one and the artsy folks got hold of it, and they actually do it big time and they do it up big time. And then it becomes like performance art. For the Homo Atheist. Well, good times. Yeah, it's good. It's good. And then all the hip people from LA go to see it. And then they want me to go. But I'm like, I listen. I talk to those people on the air every night. I want to see more.

51:04 Drew Yeah.

51:04 Marilyn Manson You should be part of it. You're the problem.

51:09 Drew I have so many things I want to talk about tonight. Another thing that I saw is sort of a news release about the FDA considering once again the morning after pill. And they're trying to release it without a prescription for women over 16. And once again, the people that are against it have come up with spurious arguments about it interfering with implantation. It drives me insane.

51:31 Adam More right wing crap.

51:32 Drew But it has nothing to do with the issue.

51:34 Adam But they're not interested in stopping abortion. They're interested in people not having sex and getting away with it. Do you know what I'm saying?

51:41 Drew Yeah, I know what you're saying.

51:42 Adam That's that.

51:43 Marilyn Manson I can always go with that guy who wanted to find a different place to put it.

51:47 Adam Yeah.

51:47 Drew The helicopter man.

51:48 Adam The helicopter guy.

51:49 Marilyn Manson No, no, the anal.

51:50 Drew Oh, yes.

51:51 Adam Junior college.

51:51 Drew Our first caller, yes.

51:52 Adam By the way, fellas, if you want anal, go to junior college. Don't go to an Ivy League school. You ain't going to get anal there. You know, there should be.

52:00 Drew Go to jail.

52:01 Adam There should. Oh, go to prison. Yeah, there should be. You know, they have the party school listing. There should be an anal school listing. It's like San Diego State would be up there. But junior college. Go junior college. That's where you get anal. All right. So, Drew, yes, again, someone wanted to put the morning after pill out.

52:19 Drew Absolutely. If you want to get rid of the morning after pill, you must get rid of all oral contraceptives because they all work the same.

52:26 Adam Right.

52:27 Drew And that's an argument I can't argue with, by the way.

52:28 Adam But you understand.

52:30 Marilyn Manson It should come as a kit, like a Rohippinol.

52:33 Drew It does come as a kit.

52:34 Marilyn Manson It's a Rohippinol to get you there.

52:36 Adam Get the roofie.

52:37 Marilyn Manson Morning after to get you.

52:39 Drew Right.

52:39 Marilyn Manson I'm not approving of the Rohippinol trick. It happened to me before.

52:44 Drew Did it give you some?

52:46 Marilyn Manson Yeah.

52:47 Adam Actually someone tricked Marilyn into giving it to them.

52:49 Marilyn Manson No, no.

52:50 Adam So what happened? Really?

52:51 Marilyn Manson Yeah.

52:52 Adam How old were you?

52:53 Drew It was like last week or something. No, no. Really? Did you ever take a roofie?

52:58 Marilyn Manson I think so. You think so? I took a funny pill once. It was a nightmare.

53:03 Adam Did anyone take advantage of you?

53:05 Marilyn Manson No.

53:06 Adam Good.

53:06 Marilyn Manson Andy Dick tried.

53:09 Drew He is known for it.

53:10 Marilyn Manson Who hasn't?

53:11 Adam He tried to hunt.

53:11 Marilyn Manson He broke into my house when I was on my last two after I saw you.

53:15 Caller Take it out. Take it out.

53:17 Adam That's me raping him.

53:18 Drew He broke in while you were there or?

53:20 Adam No, no, no.

53:20 Marilyn Manson I was out of town. He broke in in my housekeeper. What are you doing?

53:24 Drew Did he have a television?

53:26 Marilyn Manson No, no, no. He was looking for something.

53:28 Drew Oh my.

53:29 Adam The thing about Andy Dick is that at this point, he lives it. You know, he's not, it's not some crazy caricature from TV. His life is much crazier than he actually lets you know. And he lets you know most everything, but it's still even crazier, more chaotic.

53:47 Marilyn Manson If we go off on that, we'll go for hours and Andy would distract him on that one point.

53:51 Adam All right. Let's tighten it up. Let's bring it in. Let's break it down and let's get it on. Let's get a hand in, gentlemen. Let's go now. Let's break it down. You ready to go? And remember, when you go half speed, that's when you get hurt. That's right.

54:03 Drew You need to go 110 percent.

54:04 Adam You need to go 110 percent. You go half speed, you get hurt. And a quarter speed, maimed.

54:08 Drew And the faster you run, the harder you hit, the better it is for you.

54:11 Adam Safer, safer. So half speed, that's when you get hurt.

54:14 Marilyn Manson I don't know what you're talking about.

54:15 Adam Well, Marilyn didn't play a lot of Pop Warner football. I'm guessing. No?

54:18 Marilyn Manson No, I'm just thinking about the helicopter.

54:21 Adam You ready to roll?

54:22 Drew Here we go, here we go.

54:22 Adam Drew, you wanted to kiss some Magic Mountain?

54:25 Drew I did. Again, the ant slipped in here. That's called the Fright Fest. And it was really, really, we had a great time. We're going back.

54:31 Adam Scared the crap out of you?

54:32 Drew Scared the... They had clowns. These guys got off on scaring the ass out of people.

54:36 Adam Yeah.

54:37 Drew But you know, the other thing is those rides are so violent. I mean, as you get older, you get off, you're like, OK, that's it, I'm going home.

54:44 Adam No, I... Listen, first off...

54:46 Marilyn Manson Can I speak about Incognates?

54:48 Drew Sure.

54:48 Adam On one of those rides?

54:50 Marilyn Manson I have a story. I'm going to embarrass one of my bandmates. My keyboard player was coming to rehearsal. He had a back injury. So in the summertime, he's got the heat warmers on in his SUV or whatever he's driving.

55:02 Drew Seat warmers, yeah.

55:03 Marilyn Manson And he did one of those, thought he was farting, but the crap.

55:08 Right. Yeah.

55:08 Marilyn Manson With the heat warmer.

55:09 Drew Good time.

55:10 Marilyn Manson Cooking it up.

55:12 Drew It happens. Yeah.

55:13 Adam It happens.

55:14 Marilyn Manson I rode with him today. It wasn't pleasant.

55:16 Adam The car still.

55:17 Drew Yeah, loaded?

55:18 Adam Well, no, it's just a fried Duke from earlier in the week.

55:24 Drew Anyway, you won't do that free fall though.

55:25 Adam No, I will not. I'll not do that free fall. I'm too big a puss. Let me give you my theory with these rides. There's a very small acorn size part of your brain that realizes you paid admission and got in line. The rest of your body and the rest of your brain thinks that your car is tumbling off a cliff on a mountain overpass.

55:46 Drew Well, there's something about G-forces that your brain is not able to process.

55:49 Adam Your body freaks out. Your brain is going, hey, great, this is a free fall. Your body's going, I'm dying. Oh my God, I'm dying. You don't usually drop 18 stories without dying. I imagine this is... By the way, if you want to feel what it would feel like to die, like when someone pushes you off a building or something like that, I imagine that's what it is. I don't think it's good for your body to think it's dying a whole bunch of times, because then actually there might be a time when you cry wolf, like you're actually dying and your body needs to do something. That should be great. We'll come to a nice safe stop here and try it again. Meanwhile, you're impaled on a piece of rebar down at the bottom of the construction site. Yes?

56:27 Drew Yes.

56:27 Adam Yes. And that's how... The people that are really bad in movies, they don't just die, they get impaled.

56:33 Drew Sure.

56:34 Adam They land on stuff.

56:35 Drew Of course.

56:36 Adam Or something falls off.

56:37 Marilyn Manson At low weather van, garages, doors.

56:39 Adam They get like wily coyote kind of death.

56:42 Marilyn Manson All right.

56:42 Adam You ready to rock?

56:43 Yes.

56:44 Marilyn Manson You just scared me straight out of visiting my friend Hunter.

56:48 Adam Yeah.

56:48 Don't do it.

56:49 Adam Sean? Hey. You're 26?

56:52 Caller I'm 26.

56:53 Adam You have a question for Marilyn?

56:56 Caller Yeah. More of a comment and then a question. I just wanted to send you some respect. Thanks a lot, man. Yeah. My pleasure. As far as what you were saying, Adam, as being performance art, I mean, whether you're scaring the crap out of people, or I almost said it, I got myself, or people love you. That's what it's all about, right? Either just getting some sort of reaction, mad, sad.

57:19 Marilyn Manson Making people think. I think that's kind of mandatory for art.

57:24 Caller And I made a lot of assumptions about you just because I'd never really spent any time with your music and just kind of, you know, only saw what I saw in the media. And then after seeing your interview with Bowling for Columbine, it was like the complete opposite of the assumption that I and many other people make, I think. I mean, it was so peaceful and so logical and fundamental compared to what all these other people are thinking and assuming, which is, you know, you know, what happens.

57:49 Marilyn Manson I mean, I can't expect everybody to like the type of music I make, but that's not a reason to change the music. So I've really come to learn that it can't be everything contained within the music. So I have to be able to use my art or acting or whatever outlet I can to be happy. You know, I got to a point I was talking to Dr. Drew six months ago where I felt frustrated. I didn't have the right outlets and that becomes negative for anyone. But I realized that the ideas and the aesthetic that Marilyn Manson is supposed to represent, I can put it in other places, you know, but the music is the center of it. But there's other other ways to have enjoyment life.

58:35 Adam What are you working on? I don't know, screenplays, books, that kind of stuff.

58:41 Marilyn Manson Well, I paint a lot and I've got, you know, a couple movies that I'm doing after this tour is over.

58:48 Adam Acting in?

58:50 Marilyn Manson Yes.

58:50 Adam How about how about a musical? I just thought about that.

58:54 Marilyn Manson Like Hard to Hold with Rick Springfield?

58:56 Adam Yeah, that was an awesome movie, Drew. He was Rick Springfield and the chick that liked Rick Springfield was awesome. He played the guitar in it.

59:04 Marilyn Manson No, I'm actually, the movie I'm playing next, it's in December in Berlin with Alan Cummings and a couple other people. I play the Red Queen. It's a strange Alice in Wonderland thing. So I'm actually a woman, not a drag queen.

59:17 Drew Interesting.

59:20 Adam No, I was just thinking, they're taking all these crazy subjects and making them into very successful musicals and I thought between the music part and your love of production and theatrics.

59:32 Marilyn Manson It is something I've been talking to some people about. Dave Stewart and I talked about collaborating something.

59:39 Drew For music.

59:40 Adam Alright, let's talk to Nick.

59:42 Marilyn Manson Not the Ten Commandments.

59:44 Adam Who's on hold for 51 minutes. He's 18. He wants to beat a polygraph test.

59:52 That would be very convenient for me. What is going on, guys?

59:56 Marilyn Manson Let's go. Leave the country.

59:57 Manson, Manson, I'm a huge fan. Oh my God. Great to talk to you. I went to see you on the Guns God Government Tour on January 5th on your birthday. I took my dad to go see those.

1:00:11 Marilyn Manson Oh, thanks. That was the night that I consummated my relationship with Deda.

1:00:16 Really? How are you doing, by the way, if you don't mind me asking?

1:00:19 Marilyn Manson Good.

1:00:19 You're getting married. Congratulations.

1:00:21 Marilyn Manson Early next year. Thanks, yes.

1:00:24 I'd like to go to the wedding. Are you coming back to Portland?

1:00:30 Marilyn Manson Portland? I'm not sure what all the tour dates are, but we're headed that way in the next couple of weeks.

1:00:39 Yeah, I got some tickets for, I think it was July 2003 and you guys canceled because Pogo jacked up his hands somehow.

1:00:47 Marilyn Manson Yeah, my keyboard player broke his hand. He's the one who cooked his feces.

1:00:53 Adam Hey, wow, the guy wears a lot of hats in his Verso, he shows us a lot of rain. He's not busting his hand, he's scrapping on himself. What can't that man do? He plays the keyboard.

1:01:03 Marilyn Manson He drinks urine too.

1:01:04 Yeah, and he's got like an eating glass on a home video or something.

1:01:07 Marilyn Manson Eat glass too, yeah.

1:01:08 Adam Hey, hey, classically trained, though.

1:01:11 Marilyn Manson Wait, what was he going to ask?

1:01:12 Adam Yeah, Nick, what? Didn't you have a question about a polygraph test?

1:01:14 Yeah, I just got to talk to my man for a little bit, but yeah, about five months ago or so, I got in a little bit of trouble on this girl. She lied to me about her age and we ended up having sex. I was 17, she was 14. Here in Oregon, we have these minimum sentence laws or like measure 11. Have you heard about that? Yes, ma'am. Minimum sentence, if you commit a certain crime, you'll get seven years in jail minimum. Yeah, mandatory kind of thing. Anyway, I had a good attorney. I got off about five years probation. I had to register as a sex offender. I mean, it was a really dumb deal.

1:01:57 Marilyn Manson I almost had to register as a sex offender for that thing with the security guard, but they realized that it was nonsense. But that's very different. So go ahead and continue.

1:02:07 Adam Well, here's what I don't understand about this statutory stuff. If you're with a first off, you know, you're 17, you're not 33, she's 14, she's not 11. There's plenty of 14 year old chicks who could pass themselves off as 18 or 19. How is it illegal if the person says to you, I'm 18 and that's what you're saying? She's dead.

1:02:32 Caller The present? No, the DA did. She went to the grand jury and told them right then there she lied to me about her age and it was her fault. They didn't care one bit. They're like, no, we're going to screw this kid's life over. This isn't one of the hardest times of my life. I'm having like an issue.

1:02:47 Adam I just, I just, I'll hold on a second. It's sort of like if somebody sells you their car except for they stole it, but they have, they say, oh no, it's my car and you, oh, okay. And you buy it from them and then later on they arrest you for stealing a car. That's like, the guy said it was his car, just bought it from it. Like, it's not illegal to have sex with a woman and God knows, you just assume they're your age or whatever it is.

1:03:12 Marilyn Manson They'll pass the test.

1:03:13 Drew But part of the deal is though, he's telling the truth that he did have sex with her though, but the fact is she can't write her consent, she may have changed her story. I understand, there's things missing. And she was not...

1:03:25 Adam But she's saying to the DA, I lied to him, I told him I was 18.

1:03:28 Drew Yeah, but that may have changed, the story may have changed times along. The other thing is she doesn't look 20. She's clearly a teenager and he, even if he was 17, is not supposed to have sex with her under 18.

1:03:37 Adam Nick?

1:03:38 Caller She looks so much older than she looks.

1:03:41 Adam Where'd you meet her?

1:03:43 Caller At school. She was a freshman and I was a junior.

1:03:48 Drew All right, so you knew she wasn't 17. How stupid would you have to be, Nick?

1:03:52 Caller She told me she was held back and stuff and I was just, you know, well I thought I would know all that.

1:03:57 Adam Hold on a second.

1:03:58 Drew Wait, it doesn't matter. So was she 15 and not 14? It's still illegal.

1:04:02 Adam But by the way, you're both humping under the same gym roof. You know what I mean?

1:04:08 Drew That's the point, why somebody has to press the charges and that's why you shouldn't take risks.

1:04:11 Marilyn Manson It's different every stage.

1:04:13 Drew It's different, but the fact is somebody decided to take it on.

1:04:17 Adam Yeah, and I also think, by the way, you know, this side, we've talked about this.

1:04:22 Marilyn Manson But is he going to be charged as an adult?

1:04:25 Drew You know, I don't think it matters who the perpetrator is. Just somebody having sex with an underage woman.

1:04:31 Adam By the way.

1:04:32 Marilyn Manson Can you be a perpetrator at 17? It just seems sad.

1:04:36 Adam Anybody in your high school is fair game, by the way. I mean, or.

1:04:40 Marilyn Manson Well, first of all, if you could get laid in high school, I mean, I'd never even.

1:04:44 Drew This is to your point, though, that we should have maybe ninth graders away from the tenth grade.

1:04:47 Adam This is why I don't think it's a great idea to bust the ninth graders. Like when I went to high school, it was 10th, 11th and 12th. And now it's 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th. And you have ninth graders. Big age difference.

1:04:57 Marilyn Manson I went to Christian school, so.

1:05:00 Adam God help us all.

1:05:01 Drew That is ironic.

1:05:02 Adam The big difference between ninth grade and 10th grade. And when I went to high school, just anyone who was in that high school was fair game. Like you guys all just went to the same high school, y'all could just hump each other, if you could.

1:05:18 Drew But back in those days.

1:05:19 Marilyn Manson I just saw that movie Thirteen. I mean, that's kind of.

1:05:23 Caller I cannot understand that.

1:05:25 Adam Yeah. All right. Well, anyway, somebody pressed charges and now you're screwed. And what's the deal with the polygraph test?

1:05:31 Caller Well, they like just to make sure I'm not some pedophiles, bones, five year olds, you know, every day. They give me polygraphs every six months for, I guess, the next five years of my life. And they asked me other questions like, have you been drinking and using alcohol and like drugs and all that fun stuff? Like I've been doing a lot of coke and drinking lately, and I'm wondering, you know, I'm pretty sure it's going to come and kick me in the ass.

1:05:57 Marilyn Manson Are they getting a drug test, too?

1:05:58 Caller No, they're actually they're not even really doing that. They're just polygraphing me. They're going off. They're going with that.

1:06:03 Drew So that's what you're going to have to answer that honestly, then.

1:06:06 Adam Well, in the polygraph, I don't even really think it's admissible.

1:06:11 Caller I like I don't think so either.

1:06:12 Marilyn Manson You know what? They shouldn't be able to ask him if he's doing drugs without a lawyer. You should get you should speak to your parents about a lawyer.

1:06:19 Adam They shouldn't be asking you.

1:06:20 Caller I have one. I called him up and he told me like I went to get one. But like my attorney told me not to answer specifics about the case itself, which is what happened in other instances.

1:06:33 Adam Hold on. But wait a minute. First off, there's way more here than meets the eye as per usual. Wasn't like you were just some A student in high school who got hooked up with some younger classmates. So anyway, Nick, you're 18. You're on probation. Yeah, you are now. You're doing a lot of blow and whatever else. How about you reel it in just a little bit and just, you know, get things going. Think about going to college or something.

1:07:00 Caller I'm I'm I'm planning on doing that like I'm a senior in high school and I think he's worried about this interfering with that.

1:07:06 Drew Well, well, the alcohol in the blow is going to screw it up.

1:07:09 Caller Yeah, I mean, this is a lot for me to deal with. And I like I have like you guys are talking slowly. I have no outlet to take it out on. There's not much I can do about it.

1:07:19 Adam But but here's the here's the whole thing, Nick, whether you're falsely accused or not, you know, that's a little bit of a wake up call for you to, you know, straighten up a little bit.

1:07:31 Drew But he wasn't falsely accused.

1:07:33 Adam Yeah. Well, I mean, I just mean, I don't mean falsely accused. What I mean is, is he may have thought she was this age, according to him. Yeah, I know she's in the most circumstances in the fourth grade. She got held back. Held back 14 grades. I know it's convenient.

1:07:48 Marilyn Manson Well, if it's any advice for me, I've been bad. I've been worse. I've been less. Whatever. But don't run from that by doing drugs and alcohol. I'm not trying to be Mr. Don't do drugs and alcohol, but that's not going to help you. You got to face it in different ways. I'll tell you that much. And here's the thing, everybody is drugs and alcohol are actually supposed to be fun. And if you're doing it because you're miserable, that's the worst thing that could happen.

1:08:18 Adam And here's something we should talk about, which is you got to earn the right to do some some blow and some alcohol. You know, I mean, you got to. Here's what you have to do. You have to go to and smoke and do everything.

1:08:30 Marilyn Manson Besides being 21.

1:08:31 Adam Yeah, you have to you have to go to school. You have to get some education. You have to get a direction. You have to get a career. You have to get a plan. Maybe it's college, maybe some vocational training. You have to get your ass in order. And then if you want to start boozing, that's your prerogative. But not at 17 or 18, especially with the blow. You got you got to pay the fiddler a little bit. You got you got to do your work. Yeah, I booze it up now.

1:08:55 Marilyn Manson OK, I never did drugs. I was 23 years old.

1:08:57 Adam Yeah, me neither. We don't count pot, coke and heroin.

1:09:02 Drew They have done it.

1:09:03 Adam And that horse. What is that horse tranquilizer and crystal?

1:09:07 Marilyn Manson And you know, he's I could I could see he's in a really bad position. And it's it sucks.

1:09:16 Adam Hold on. Quail lutes are horse tranquilizer. Yeah, that's what they use quail lutes for.

1:09:20 Drew They used to.

1:09:21 Adam For horses.

1:09:22 Drew Oh, ketamine.

1:09:23 Marilyn Manson Talk about PCP cat tranquilizer.

1:09:26 Adam PCP. Yeah. PCP angel dust. Yeah. What do you mean quail lutes?

1:09:32 Drew They use they use quail lutes and ketamine on animals. Yeah.

1:09:36 Adam What what they invent quail lutes for.

1:09:37 Drew I'll look it up.

1:09:38 Adam It's the horses.

1:09:40 Drew This stuff is used. Ketamine ketamine is used on almost exclusively animals.

1:09:43 Marilyn Manson That's cat. That's for cats and cook it up in your oven.

1:09:48 Drew And I believe quail lutes was used on large animals.

1:09:50 Adam Oh, really?

1:09:51 Drew Yeah.

1:09:51 Adam But not invented specifically for them. Well, go find out about quail lutes. Marilyn Manson in studio tonight. Drew, useless, by the way, could not come up with PCP.

1:10:02 Drew Couldn't come up with PCP. PCP is a dissociative. That's a totally different concept.

1:10:04 Adam Couldn't come up with the PCP. We'll take a quick break.

1:10:08 Marilyn Manson Let's play the Dope Show. It's appropriate.

1:10:10 Adam We'll be right back. Oh yeah, we're going to hear the Dope Show after this. Hey everybody, it's Luv-Line, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, feverishly at work at the computer. Marilyn Manson in studio tonight. We will hear something off the new CD or the best of CD, Lest We Forget, which is a best of CD. We will hear a cut off that. I think we're going to hear the dope show off that. Marilyn is hanging around for one more break. So let's take a question for him.

1:10:58 Drew I think you're right about the fan soccling. I glanced at some stuff and it looks like it was originally a veterinary anesthetic.

1:11:04 Adam I think that was Marilyn's tech. Nick? Nick, you're 17.

1:11:09 Caller Yeah, I got two questions from Marilyn.

1:11:12 Marilyn Manson All right, Nick.

1:11:14 Caller First off, what inspired you to remake Personal Jesus?

1:11:18 Marilyn Manson I'll tell you exactly. And it'll sound strange, but when I was mentioning about being in a weird place six months ago, I almost had what they like to call a moment of clarity in a strange way. I was having a lot of people talking to me about believing in things and finding a center because I was really depressed and I wasn't sure if I wanted to keep making music. And the song came on the radio and I realized that it came out the same year I started the band and with what was going on in politics and everything in my life, it had a completely different meaning. And I realized that it had that innate Marilyn Manson sort of rhythm that I like to use. So I thought it would be ironic, obviously, as well with, you know, this was a big year for Jesus with the Mel Gibson movie and the whole election is really about they're using religion once again. So I thought that would be something good and I'm happy with the way that came out.

1:12:30 Caller I have one more question. I was wondering, when you came up with your name Marilyn Manson, did you come up with any other combinations before you finally settled on that?

1:12:43 Marilyn Manson I'm not sure if there was any other attempts. It really spilled out like abracadabra. Really? That's what I could relate to the most. Because the two, if you said, I mean...

1:12:54 Drew Charlie Monroe doesn't work.

1:12:56 Marilyn Manson Maybe now it doesn't. You can't think of it anymore, but you could say Manson and it was Charles Manson, you could say Marilyn and it's her. Now, I might have screwed that up, but...

1:13:06 Adam Yeah, you could do like Jane Bundy or something, but...

1:13:10 Marilyn Manson We've had it, you know, and the band had that initially, but, you know, over the years since it's changed, we didn't think that that was something to carry on with, but no, there wasn't a different one. That was the one, and I knew at the time that I would eventually be sitting here asking, answering questions about vaginal itching.

1:13:30 Adam I wish I knew. Hey, Nick. All right, you're good, buddy.

1:13:36 Caller Altadena, checking in at 77.

1:13:40 Adam Yeah, he's calling from the Pasadena, Altadena area there, Drew, giving us the weather. Although we actually had weather here.

1:13:47 Drew I know, it's beautiful.

1:13:47 Adam It rained. It was crazy.

1:13:49 Drew It was like water coming out of the sky in Los Angeles.

1:13:52 Adam It's crazy.

1:13:53 Drew Yeah.

1:13:53 Adam And I was staring at my window at this big field that the DWP owns by my house, watching the big sprinkler system going off the entire time it was pouring. And we talk about this all the time. You drive, you know, it rains, you know, four days out of the year out here. But the four days it rains, you'll be driving at night. You're seeing the big sprinkler going off. And I thought, you know, they always hammer the drought thing and they hammer the conserve the water and all that. Yet the city has not been able to go on the internet, spend 18 bucks and get one of those little devices that shuts the sprinklers off when it rains, which they've had for 20 years. Well, I don't understand how that works. I don't understand how the city tells you to save water. And they do it. I mean, it's literally pouring buckets while the sprinklers are going off. You couldn't you couldn't waste. I mean, all they should have been out front washing all the city vehicles that day, too. I don't understand how that works.

1:14:50 Marilyn Manson Or at least filling little bags for breast implants.

1:14:53 Adam Yeah, I don't understand what the plan is with that. And I don't understand why, especially when you're talking about millions of gallons, because it's all done, you know, on such a large scale, why no one's worked that thing into the equation and how does that work?

1:15:07 Drew Maybe you should run for a city office. You can get the left turn signals taking out. I just get people to move their ass and get rid of the water.

1:15:14 Adam As somebody as somebody who's driving down that all this a citizen is driving down the freeway. Doesn't anger anybody to see the sprinklers going off while it's pouring.

1:15:22 Drew Most of the country don't know what you're talking about. The irrigation systems don't. The rest of the country doesn't need that because it rains every other day.

1:15:29 Adam Well, we live in a desert, which which they beat the crap out of you with. Marilyn, we're going to hear a song from Marilyn Manson. And then he's going to go go home and like drink some loud number or something.

1:15:43 Marilyn Manson I'm going to consult with my personal physician.

1:15:45 Adam We're going to I think we'll take one call and then we'll then we'll hear a song. Christina.

1:15:51 Yeah.

1:15:52 Adam You're 19.

1:15:53 Caller Yeah.

1:15:54 Marilyn Manson Hello, Christina.

1:15:57 Caller Basically, I'm pretty bummed out because I've been with this guy for three years and he wasn't my boyfriend. He never really claimed me as a girlfriend or anything. And I kind of messed up and I kind of had sex with his best friend.

1:16:16 Adam Well, it's payback time.

1:16:17 Caller Yeah.

1:16:17 Drew You're mad at him for not being the boyfriend.

1:16:19 Adam He didn't step up.

1:16:20 Drew So you're going to let him know, hey, you don't be a boyfriend. Fine. That's fine. I can do whatever I want.

1:16:25 Adam And by the way, you never want to get a chick into that. Oh, you mean I can do what I want. Oh, we're free. We're free and clear. We'll see about that. I'm going to nail the sparklet guy. Then I'm going to nail the census guy. Then I'm going to nail the guy. Put the flyer on my windshield. Then who's your best friend? What's dad's name? That's that's just this afternoon, by the way.

1:16:44 Drew They pay vengeance sex is something that guys don't get to do, nor are they motivated to do it, really. You know what I mean? No, guys want sex because they want sex. Women use sex for once in a while.

1:16:54 Adam You get on the winning end of the vengeance sex. And here's how you know it. If it's a girl who's humping you and and you're like, what, what's going on here?

1:17:03 Marilyn Manson I that that means it's actually called a grudge. You know what?

1:17:08 Adam Right. Right.

1:17:09 Marilyn Manson And you don't know why the helicopter guy is doing it, but that's all about timing.

1:17:13 Adam That's just about being being in the right place at the right time.

1:17:16 Drew So, Christina, part of the problem is yours for not having been honest with him that you wanted to have him as a boyfriend. Well, of course you didn't. Again, that's part of the problem, Christina. You didn't ask him, you didn't belly up about this and say, look, we need to have a relationship here. Now part of the reason you didn't is because you know he would have probably found a way to weasel out of that. But this is an interesting way to get his attention, certainly.

1:17:43 Marilyn Manson He was committed enough to say the guy was his best friend and to get angry about it.

1:17:48 Drew But that she wasn't his girlfriend. And to get angry about it. She managed to do that. But his sort of anger is really not because he really cares about you. He's kind of visceral, testosterone driven, you know, territorial reaction rather than something empathic towards you.

1:18:00 Adam Either way, and do you like the best friend, by the way?

1:18:03 Marilyn Manson Three years is like a lease on a car. He's got to make a commitment.

1:18:06 Adam Right.

1:18:07 Caller Well, he's his best friend's really nice team. He like he he like it seems like he really likes me. But the other guy, he's always really like he's always really mean to me when he's around everyone else.

1:18:20 Drew Well, why would you put up with this guy for three years that is treating you like crap? He's using you as a receptacle only bad dad.

1:18:27 Adam I'm going with you.

1:18:28 Drew Oh, yeah.

1:18:28 Adam Christina, where's your dad?

1:18:30 Caller Florida.

1:18:31 Caller My parents are my parents are together. They're happily married for about 30 years now.

1:18:37 Adam What happened?

1:18:38 Drew Yeah, what's the matter?

1:18:38 Adam What set you up? What set you up for this?

1:18:42 Drew What's the problem?

1:18:44 Caller What set me up for?

1:18:46 Drew To be exploited. No, no, Christina, why would you put yourself in a relationship where you're being exploited and sit there for three years and not pipe up about it?

1:19:02 Adam Listen, you're 19, you're stupid, you get locked in, whatever. The less attention he pays you, the more attractive he becomes. It's just an adolescent cycle that hopefully will break. Three years is a pretty good run.

1:19:18 Drew And then have sex with the best friend and create that kind of chaos. It suggests something going on with Christina.

1:19:22 Adam All right, well maybe this is what it talks to. Whatever. Just move on. That's the worst. That's it.

1:19:31 Caller Yeah.

1:19:32 Adam That's it.

1:19:32 Caller All right.

1:19:33 Adam One last question for Marilyn. Christine? What's up?

1:19:39 I just wanted to ask Marilyn, are you bisexual? Are you bisexual?

1:19:45 Marilyn Manson Bisexual. I would say technically I could be convicted of such a thing, but I like women. But you know, I have been in situations whether it's for just to be funny or I don't think that I find pleasure from being in it. I'm not attracted to guys. Well, thank you.

1:20:20 Drew Christina, are you drunk?

1:20:21 No.

1:20:27 Marilyn Manson Well, I should amend that by saying that I'm not afraid to say if I think a guy is attractive or something like that, but that doesn't mean I want to, you know, have sex with a guy. But you know, I'm just not as macho as most people who are very afraid to admit, you know.

1:20:43 Adam Right. Like, Drew is petrified of his sexuality, so he has to put on a hetero front.

1:20:48 Anal or anything like that?

1:20:51 Marilyn Manson No, I have... Sounds a bit toxic. Not with, not with a guy.

1:20:54 Adam Hey, Chris...

1:20:55 Marilyn Manson I've kissed a guy before, and you know...

1:20:58 Adam To me, worse than anal, by the way.

1:21:00 Caller I'd rather do the anal.

1:21:01 Marilyn Manson I've kissed a few guys before.

1:21:02 Adam I'd rather have the guy do the helicopter on me than kiss.

1:21:04 Marilyn Manson If a guy has a beard, though, it's not really my thing.

1:21:06 Caller Last time Manson was on, he said something about, like, if he had his dick in his mouth and there's a condom on it, it doesn't really make him gay, right?

1:21:14 Adam Yeah.

1:21:15 Marilyn Manson I said if I had a man's penis in my mouth and had a condom on it, it did make me gay. But also, as long as I don't have an erection, it doesn't make me gay.

1:21:25 Drew Trojans coming out with mint-flavored condoms next year.

1:21:28 Adam And they should come out with ones that don't make you gay.

1:21:32 Drew Well if they're mint-flavored.

1:21:34 Adam But you hear...

1:21:35 Marilyn Manson I sneeze from mints.

1:21:36 Drew I said they had to put some of the floss in there, too.

1:21:38 Adam All right, here's something that got waxed condom. Christine. You're not drunk.

1:21:46 Caller No.

1:21:47 Marilyn Manson I have this effect on women. Why don't you just stand down?

1:21:50 Adam Do you have any problems? And men, too.

1:21:53 Caller I had like... I had a respirator like...

1:21:58 Drew What?

1:21:58 Adam A respirator?

1:22:00 Caller A respirator in my throat in the hospital that was administered wrong, and therefore my, my, my cords are kind of upset.

1:22:10 Adam Oh, see you in hell, Drew, by the way. Making fun of this poor girl when she's drunk. She's traumatized. Okay. How dare you?

1:22:16 Drew Why were you on a respirator?

1:22:18 Caller I had pneumonia and then I was, I was administered into the hospital and they, they put me on a respirator and then I coated for like forty-half minutes.

1:22:33 Drew Well, how did a young person get pneumonia serious enough that they needed to be on ventilator?

1:22:37 Caller I'm calling from Phoenix, Arizona and we have valley fever and so, I mean, these are better than our chemical pneumonia for the straight pain thing.

1:22:47 Marilyn Manson When I was a kid, I had pneumonia three times.

1:22:50 Adam Really?

1:22:50 Drew You need to put it on a breathing machine. She said she coated three times. She was dead three times.

1:22:56 Adam Really?

1:22:57 Drew And on a ventilator.

1:22:57 Caller What?

1:22:58 Drew Christine, what are we missing?

1:23:00 Adam What are we missing?

1:23:01 Drew What makes a young person get ill enough that she needs to be on a ventilator from pneumonia?

1:23:06 Caller Well, because I had like a bunch of, of junk like, like, collected in the bottom of my lungs.

1:23:14 Drew Why? From what? Were you using drugs?

1:23:17 Caller Well, no. But the point of the matter is it doesn't matter what, no, it was.

1:23:22 Drew Well, we're trying to make senses because 20 year olds don't get pneumonia.

1:23:25 Adam Please tell Drew the goddamn answer, would you?

1:23:27 Caller Well, I am goddamn right.

1:23:29 Adam Tell him, tell him. I had stuff collecting and what are you talking about?

1:23:34 Caller No, it was, it was, I, I had no sense at all and I went to the hospital and I said, you know, I'm not feeling right, whatever, and so he put me into CAT scan and I remembered I was like, in a coal mine, like 10, 15 days ago.

1:23:52 Adam Christine, is there, is it some job that you do like the spray paint aircraft or do you smoke?

1:24:00 Drew Smoke in a coal mine?

1:24:01 Adam Do you smoke drugs or something?

1:24:03 Marilyn Manson My father sprayed Agent Orange.

1:24:09 Adam You spray painted your truck? So maybe that was it.

1:24:12 Drew So you had maybe a chemical in the money to start this off.

1:24:15 Caller And wear a respirator. That's what I think it was.

1:24:19 Adam I think my...

1:24:20 Drew Twenty-five years on end about a ventilator unless there's something going on.

1:24:22 Adam You may have done some brain damage, too, as well.

1:24:24 Marilyn Manson I'm going to pimp your rides.

1:24:26 Adam By the way, you want to talk about white trash. Spray painted the truck. What the hell? Hold on a second.

1:24:32 Marilyn Manson I had the money bad. Always sick.

1:24:36 Adam Christine, you spray painted your truck?

1:24:38 Caller Well, yeah, I painted my... I have a 454.

1:24:45 Adam Big Block? Marilyn and Drew don't know that for very different reasons. But there's only one man in this room and he knows what a Big Block 454 is. It's a Chevy.

1:24:55 Caller Yeah, Chevy, 74. And I spray painted it and I didn't have the right proper ventilation.

1:25:06 Adam Where she says she works?

1:25:07 Marilyn Manson Where do you work at?

1:25:08 Caller Well, I'm on disability right now.

1:25:12 Adam And you spray painted it? Why are you on disability?

1:25:17 Caller Well, because when I was black without, you know, kind of like, I was black.

1:25:25 Marilyn Manson Do you work at a bar?

1:25:27 Adam Oh, okay. Oh, wow. I think you get a discount if they have a little.

1:25:37 Marilyn Manson No, but there's a lot of cigarette smoke in there.

1:25:39 Adam Yeah. No, you spray paint. Now, we using cans of spray paint or using? Huffing.

1:25:46 Caller What do you call that?

1:25:48 Adam Yeah, you had a compressor and you're using a spray, but you weren't using a mask. And you're just putting on cans. You're doing like lacquer or something? Does your dad own a body shop or something?

1:26:01 Marilyn Manson No, it's a strip bar. They don't clean those bowls.

1:26:07 Caller And just for like a year, I just felt really low in my lungs and I didn't know it.

1:26:13 Drew I've treated thousands of people with pneumonia, many on ventilators. So far, not a single stripper.

1:26:19 Adam Hold on. Welcome to the stage, Candy Sharon, stage five, stage five, business man's lunch, Japanese fridge. All right. Marilyn Manson. Oh, we're going to hear. No. We're taking a break. Then we'll come back in a minute. In the Dope Show. Marilyn is going to say bye. God bless you for coming by, Marilyn. I was. I was.

1:26:44 Drew You guys got to get up in the morning too. Big announcement in the morning.

1:26:47 Adam Big announcement in the morning. Oh, got to get up. Make a big announcement. All right. Thank you, Marilyn. Always a delight.

1:26:52 Marilyn Manson Or play it through.

1:26:53 Adam Thanks for coming by. And we promise you will.

1:26:56 Marilyn Manson I always learn something new. But I knew that there was a strip bar involved.

1:27:02 Adam Good impulse. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back.

1:27:05 Drew Loveline.

1:27:08 Adam You know, Drew, smelling good is more than a smell, it's an attitude.

1:27:14 Drew That's true, Adam.

1:27:15 Adam It is?

1:27:16 Drew I know how to get that attitude, too.

1:27:17 Adam How? Breakdown?

1:27:18 Drew Axe, deodorant, body spray.

1:27:35 Adam I'll tell you, you got to get it on, Drew.

1:27:37 Drew It is wild talking to Marilyn. I feel like I've stepped into parallel universe when I'm with Marilyn Manson.

1:27:41 Adam Yeah.

1:27:42 Drew He's, uh, heesh, Uncle God damn and this helicopter man. I learn things. What?

1:27:48 Caller Yeah, you got to call me Uncle God damn now.

1:27:50 Drew Oh, that is your name. Don't worry about it.

1:27:51 Adam He, uh, yeah.

1:27:52 Drew We made the videos online. We watched it.

1:27:54 Caller Yeah, I just watched it, too. It's sick.

1:27:56 Drew It's crazy.

1:27:57 Adam You do feel kind of you feel high when you're around him.

1:27:59 Drew He's spun. Yeah, I feel kind of spun.

1:28:01 Adam Yeah. And you feel like you could talk into something weird sexually. Come on, I'm not going to hand you out. Whatever.

1:28:07 Drew You're doing weird things.

1:28:09 Adam Yeah. I might do something weird. We could do some mushrooms, go out in the woods, and you could like cornhole me and be like, oh, I guess this is cool. Actually, I'm going to need a note for my wife. Is that cool?

1:28:23 Drew Anna's getting off on the image.

1:28:25 Adam But seriously, if Marilyn Manson did something weird to your husband and did something weird to Doug, it would be much better than just some dude who was on a softball team, right?

1:28:35 Caller I mean, it's like you can kind of understand it.

1:28:39 Adam It's like kind of part chick. I'll tell you what it is. It's almost equivalent to you cheating with some guy that you're really hot for, like you getting it on with John Stamos or some guy you grew up watching on days of our lives or something. Because it's not real.

1:28:57 Caller It's just kind of...

1:28:59 Adam And I'll give you a pass because that's him or that's whatever. So I think if you got to go gay, I think if you go gay with a Marilyn Manson or possibly like even Andy Dick, like we talked about earlier, you're cool. You go gay with like, I don't know, Terry Bradshaw and it gets weird. It gets weird. You know what I mean? Yeah. Or just some guy you you work with. You know what I mean?

1:29:22 Caller Speaking of gay, we got to play a song now. Play gay late.

1:29:26 Adam Let's hear something as promised from Marilyn Manson off the Lest We Forget, which is the best of CD just out. This is a classic called The Dope Show.

1:33:28 Caller Tons of lame people and no decent prospects.

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1:34:03 Adam I feel like hell. I got caught up with Marilyn Manson. Jessica, 20, over here, has been on hold for 132 minutes. Maybe a record. Sorry, baby doll.

1:34:14 Drew Did we get her in last night, tomorrow night?

1:34:15 Adam I'll tell you what we have to do is we have to get you in first tomorrow night. Sorry.

1:34:21 Drew So screeners will call you back. Okay, hold on, all right?

1:34:24 Adam Okay. Don't hang up on Jessica. Sorry, she's been on hold since before the show started. And then also, Jordan, we got to talk to you tomorrow night. Uh-oh, Jordan. I didn't, I just hit it. I didn't hang up on him, I just punched him up. Jordan, are you still there? We're good, we're good. Oh, I did, all right.

1:34:43 Drew Jordan, you there?

1:34:44 Adam Get Jordan too, and then also get Alex. He's been on hold for 73 minutes. All right, my deep felt apologies, my heartfelt apologies to all of you who've been on hold for so long, got caught up. Marilyn, I want to thank Marilyn Manson for coming in here. Lest we forget, name of the new CD, it's the best of. It's going to be out on tour in the next week or so, coming to town near you. So until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo. Sejal? Are you by Sejal?

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