Episode 1000644507106

1:05 Voiceover nd sexually oriented content. Listener discretion is nd advised. Listener discretion is nd advised. Listener discretion is nd advised. This is Loveline. With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

1:23 Adam I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Addiction Medicine Specialist, Drew. Before we get started, I want to check a little weather around the Southland.

1:37 Drew It's got to be bad, whatever it is.

1:38 Adam It's warm tonight. I'll tell you, it is a warm night out in the Southland.

1:42 Drew What do you figure it is?

1:43 Adam Well, I'll tell you what, I got these checking in here over here, right? I got checking in. We're checking in around the Southland. Riverside coming in 77 degrees, Ilkahoe checking in 77 degrees, Newhall, Saugus area 77 degrees, Rancho, Santa Margarita 77 degrees, Carson 77, Fulton 77, Banning 77, Pacoima 77, Westminster 77, Chula Vista checking in at Chilly, Chilly, Chilly, 73 degrees, 77 degrees. Wait a minute, let's check that. No, it's back up 77. Encino checking in 77 degrees, Stanton 77, Reseda 77, Chivite Hill 77 degrees, Hawaiian Gardens coming in at a very warm 77 degrees, Yucaypa coming in at a very chilly 77 degrees, Redland 77, Upland 77, 77 degrees in San Ana, El Segundo checking in 77 degrees, Linwood 77, Norco 77, DeVore 77 degrees, Glendora 77 degrees, Azusa checking in at 77 degrees.

2:38 Drew I am so glad to know that because you know, when I was driving in 77 degrees. And brake lights.

2:44 Voiceover 77 degrees, let's go to traffic right now on the four or five, look out for brake lights. 101, there's a mattress in lanes. Number three lanes got a mattress. So look out for brake lights over there. And on the four or five exchange or the 101 pass at the four level, look out for brake lights everybody. All right, slow and go, slow and go. 77, checking in Encino Chula Vista coming in 77. Pacoima 77 degrees. 837, 37, after 823 away from nine. You're listening to Loveline. Did I mention New Hall Saugus area checking in 77 degrees? Did I give the phone number out, Drew? Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191. And remember. 1-800-LOVE-191, 1-800-LOVE-191.

3:27 Drew On the station, trapped in the weather at 45 seconds after every minute.

3:30 Voiceover If you're calling from the El Cajon area, the number 1-800-LOVE-191, 77 degrees. If you're calling from the New Hall Saugus area, 100, 800, what the hell's the phone number here? 800-LOVE-191, Rancho Santa Margarita area. Drew, phone number?

3:47 Drew 1-800-LOVE-191.

3:48 Adam That's right, Carson, Banning area.

3:51 Drew Same as Baltimore and Washington.

3:52 Adam That's right, check it in. Everyone, 77 degrees. Look out for brake lights on the 405, slow and go on the 101. It's 837.37 after eight o'clock, 23 away from nine. Back to the phones after we give the phone number out one more time, 1-800-LOVE-191.

4:08 Drew Let's have- 45 after the minute. It's time for traffic and weather.

4:11 Adam Oh, we can go back. I'll tell you, Reseda coming in at 77, Chevy, the Hill 77, Hawaiian Gardens 77. You're kind of 77 in Redland, 77 up point 77, Santa Ana 77. Who's checking in?

4:23 Drew 78 degrees.

4:24 Adam Pacoima, no. They, no. They revised it back down to 77 degrees. All right, ready to hop to the phones, Drew?

4:30 Drew Here we go.

4:31 Adam All right, Clark. Clark, you're 23, you're calling the show. Hold on a second. Quick weather and traffic check over there. 405, slow and go, look out for brake lights on the 101. 77 degrees in Chula Vista. Let's get back with Clark. Clark. You're 23.

4:48 Caller I'm 23.

4:49 Adam 1-800-LOVE-191 is the phone number if you're calling from Pacoima area, banning area, 1-800-LOVE-191. If you're calling from the Stanton Recita area, 1-800-LOVE-191, 837, 37 after eight, 23 away from nine o'clock. Go ahead, Clark.

5:07 Caller Well, my current issue is that a couple of years ago, my girlfriend and I experimented with some three ways with another girl.

5:18 Adam Hold on, SigAlert on the 110. Slow and go. Slow and go.

5:24 Drew Did you see Ace with the guy that invented the SigAlert died recently?

5:27 Adam Good. I hope he was crushed between two cars. Clark?

5:32 Caller Yeah.

5:33 Adam You had a threesome?

5:34 Caller Yeah, threesome.

5:35 Adam Really?

5:36 Caller Yeah, with another girl.

5:38 Drew And now what's happening?

5:39 Adam You don't sound like the threesome type.

5:41 Caller Yeah, I am.

5:46 Drew We'll count you in on that. That's fine.

5:48 Caller Well, what happened is, yeah, long story short, I had the threesome happen about five times with the same girl. And it kind of created this compulsion in me. I started to become, I think, sexually addicted. I was really into porn and really heavy into porn. Almost to the midget porn level, but not quite. And then I ended up, six months ago.

6:24 Adam What the hell that mean?

6:25 Drew I don't get the whole thing at all. I'm not following. Now either it's possibly real, possibly.

6:31 Adam He doesn't sound like a guy who's had a one-some. Forget about a threesome. But the idea that he did it five times is sort of good. I mean, it's specific. You know what I'm saying?

6:46 Drew And then it triggered a porn addiction, is what he's saying.

6:48 Adam Right, Clark?

6:49 Caller Yeah, I'm saying that it sort of triggered this compulsion. That I can understand why you'd say it doesn't seem like I've had sex because I kind of have this vernacular. And it's because I kind of was a late bloomer and so I was...

7:06 Adam Vernacular?

7:08 Drew This is like a guy using words, he doesn't know what they mean.

7:10 Adam Wow, this is Don King.

7:13 Drew Exactly.

7:14 Adam Clark?

7:16 Caller Well, any, okay, I guess what I'm saying is... That's true.

7:19 Adam You want to define vernacular? That's more like a calling something something else, right?

7:27 Drew Right, a common lingo. Yeah, exactly, a common lingo.

7:30 Adam He's, that's like saying joint instead of penis, right?

7:35 Drew Right. Clark?

7:38 Caller I disagree, no, like a vernacular is your lingo set, you know, the words you use.

7:42 Drew Didn't we just say that?

7:44 Caller And that's what I'm saying, I use kind of this lingo set that makes it seem like I'm a total nerd.

7:49 Adam No, no, you sound like a nerd. You sound like a quality of the voice.

7:53 Drew Nothing to do with the language or the language structure. Quality of the voice. But anyway, so what happened?

7:57 Caller Well, anyway, so I got kind of sexually addicted to just the pornography thing. And then it just led into this whole sort of sexual compulsion thing. And I ended up cheating on my girlfriend about six months ago with this girl.

8:15 Drew The same girl?

8:16 Caller No, not the same girl.

8:17 Adam Were you allowed to have sex with the girl you were having the threesomes with when you were having the threesomes?

8:23 Caller No, it was solely in the threesome sort of all threesomes.

8:28 Drew And what are you calling?

8:29 Adam No, no, no. Hold on a second. Were you allowed to have sex with the girl you were having the threesome with when you were having the threesome?

8:41 Caller But not.

8:41 Adam In your girlfriend one. I know, not, not. I know, not the thing I didn't say. Thank you. What else is it not?

8:48 Drew I know.

8:49 Adam You know, it's like, here's what people do. They get stuck on something and then you repeat the question verbatim in the vernacular that you were using, exactly the same, and they're like, oh no, not that. But to answer your first question, first question was phrased exactly the same.

9:07 Drew But he wants.

9:07 Adam You decided to go there.

9:08 Drew His agenda is, right, his agenda is, I need you to understand, I didn't have sex with this one outside of the threesome. We got that, we asked that question five questions ago.

9:15 Adam Yes, I needed to know whether you got to have sex with her or not.

9:19 Drew During the threesome. And your girlfriend was okay with that?

9:23 Caller Yes.

9:23 Drew She didn't freak out about that?

9:25 Caller No.

9:27 Drew That doesn't sound right either.

9:28 Caller You know, I got the idea afterward that she was jealous about it. She didn't overtly say it. And I asked her a lot, but she didn't say it. And, you know, it just never really came out.

9:41 Drew All right, and then what are you calling porn addiction? What is that? What were you doing?

9:44 Caller Just like every night, masturbate.

9:47 Drew Once a night?

9:49 Caller Three times.

9:52 Adam 23. All right, well, so you broken up with the chick yet? Or did she find out you cheated or what?

9:57 Caller Yeah, she found out you cheated. She found out I cheated, but we're together again. Because I really like, I love her. And for some reason she's still with me. But my dilemma is that, you know, if she were to call you guys, you'd say, break up with the A-hole, you know? I'm that A-hole that you're always telling people to break up with, and I...

10:22 Drew No, no, no. You're just done with this relationship.

10:24 Yeah.

10:25 Drew You're not an A-hole. You're just, you're caught in something you need to get out of. You need to be honest with yourself and her about. You're just acting out, and it's time to go move on.

10:34 Yeah.

10:35 Adam Clark's tired, not only of her, of everything. Tired of the call, tired of everything. And thankfully our phone lines are so screwed up that he just magically melted away.

10:45 Caller Well, does it have anything to do with my bipolar disorder? I mean.

10:49 Drew Yes, it certainly could.

10:50 Adam Clark, what do you do? Do you work?

10:53 Caller Yes, I do.

10:53 Adam What do you do?

10:55 Caller I am a real estate agent.

10:58 Adam All right. Well, you guys have been together for how long?

11:01 Caller Three years.

11:03 Adam You're 23. It's run its course.

11:05 Drew Does she have psychiatric problems too? She must.

11:08 Caller Likely.

11:09 Adam Okay, that's enough. You guys are done. You're done.

11:13 Drew You're kind of clinging together.

11:15 Adam Yeah, you've been together for three years.

11:17 Drew Certainly have your bipolarity assessed to make sure that's not the reason you've sort of become hypersexual. Maybe you're manic now. And certainly that can have an impact on your relationship that's independent of the quality of the relationship. But we get the sense that you're just sort of not that into this girl and you're 23.

11:33 Adam All right, three years. They had his kicks. He's gonna move on. Toya?

11:38 Yes, hi Adam. Hi Dr. Drew.

11:41 Adam Hello Toya, you're 24, what's up?

11:43 Caller Yes I am. Just a couple of things. You guys have been my step dads for the past 10 years. I listen to you guys even when I was in, I'm from Jamaica. It was the greatest thing to get cable out there because we got MTV and I used to watch you guys every night.

12:02 Adam Yeah.

12:03 Caller Well I'm glad I watched you on the Man Show, Adam. I've watched Dr. Drew on a bunch of things and I just love you guys. Oh man.

12:10 Adam Thanks, Toya.

12:11 Caller And everything, people in Bakersfield, Riverside, everything that Adam says is true about guys, about girls not knowing measurements. I mean, I'm that girl.

12:22 Adam Yeah, baby. Listen, it takes a brilliant woman to admit when she's dumb.

12:26 Drew Brilliant, insightful and honest.

12:28 Adam Insightful and honest.

12:29 Drew So Toya, what are you doing faring back and forth between Jamaica and Baltimore?

12:35 Caller Okay, well, actually I'm in Silver Spring, Maryland.

12:38 Drew Whatever.

12:38 Caller Yeah, but I reside here now. I moved here, I moved from Jamaica in 1999.

12:46 Drew So go to college or something?

12:48 Caller Yes, I attend American University.

12:50 Drew Oh, excellent.

12:51 Caller Yeah. Yes, I am.

12:54 Drew All right.

12:55 Adam And did, was there, now I'm trying to think if the hurricane got around and blew through Jamaica.

13:03 Caller Right now, what's threatening us is Ivan.

13:06 Adam Mm-hmm.

13:07 Caller So I'm, I think my grandmother, we called people out there and it's really bad, so. I don't live there anymore and I, you know, but still, I might, you know, I might be.

13:18 Adam Well, what is Toya? I have, I've been to Jamaica before.

13:22 Caller Yes, I heard your experiences.

13:25 Adam Delightful place, although I stay in a nice place, plenty of security. But here's the thing. What, what don't people know about Jamaica? That they should know or that surprise them? Yeah, what would surprise somebody about Jamaica? And what do they make too much of?

13:41 Drew They got a hell of a track team.

13:45 Caller Well, for me, I think a lot of people, when they, when I introduced myself, they're like, oh, you know, are you from Kingston or Montego Bay? I mean, I would, I always, I think one of our best kept secrets is like, we don't have a lot of tourist traffic on the eastern part of the island. And there, it's totally different from Montego Bay or Negril, where, you know, all the spring breakers go. It pretty much, it looks like the US. You know, really, it just has everything that you, you know, US has.

14:14 Adam On the east side?

14:16 Caller On the west side.

14:17 Adam On the west side, where the spring break is.

14:19 Caller Right. But on the eastern side, it's more green, it's more lush, it's very tranquil. When I was going to school there, I took like a road trip across the island because I'm from the central, the rural.

14:32 Drew Unfortunately, Toya, just that description you just, you just shared with us. I want to get up and go there right now and a few million other people. No, I mean to the west side, the east side.

14:44 Adam We're going to the east side. We're east side.

14:45 Because we're keeping it real.

14:47 Drew With everybody else who's listening to the show, unfortunately, though.

14:49 Adam Adam, yes. Let me say this, Toya, I'm going to make you a deal. Okay. You show me your Jamaica, and I will show you my North Hollywood. Oh my God. Have you seen Stucco? We have something called Stucco there.

15:04 Drew Stucco.

15:05 Adam It's a magical brick-like masonry covering that covers the building.

15:09 Drew Concrete. All right.

15:10 Adam We have concrete.

15:11 Drew It's really sort of cement. It's asphalt. It's asphalt.

15:14 Adam It's asphalt. We have things in North Hollywood. For instance, the doors and windows. You have doors and windows that swing out on hinges. Our slide, they're made of aluminum, It's a space-age material. I don't know if you guys have that over there yet. We have flat roofs with rocks sprinkled on them. White rocks. Yeah, Cinder block is not quite descriptive enough.

15:43 Drew That's being a little kind to it.

15:44 Caller Well, I went to California twice. I went to La Jolla, California first.

15:53 Drew No, Toya. No, I don't.

15:55 You've not seen Adam's North Hollywood.

16:00 Adam It's beautiful. God's country over there. Yeah.

16:03 Caller I just wanted to let you guys know. You've helped me so much nd died a scholar. But Dr. Drew, you ight, I mean, starting the war. People will listen to you more.

16:20 Drew Well, thank you.

16:21 Adam Thanks, Toya. What's your question?

16:23 Caller All right. Whenever I have sex during intercourse, and also, there's a worse thing. When I go to the bathroom to do number two, I have- There you go again. Well-

16:39 Drew Adam gets into this. Be careful.

16:41 Caller Well, I don't know if you've ever heard of this, Dr. Drew, but I have tears, like my tear ducts or something. I just have water running down my face.

16:49 Adam You cry when you're doing number two.

16:51 Caller Well, it's not like I'm, right?

16:53 Adam No, I know, because they're like your children, and you have to say goodbye to them when you flush. If you like doing number two, North Hollywood is your place.

17:02 Drew Well, you don't like doing number two, it's like walking through it.

17:06 Adam It's right on the brochure. Yeah, like for other plates, it says like a sports fisherman's paradise. North Hollywood is, if you like number two, North Hollywood is number one.

17:17 Drew Come on down. Number two, North Hollywood is for you.

17:19 Adam Yeah, that's what it is, right on the brochure. All right, what is that, Drew? Does she have loose tear ducts?

17:26 Drew Well, actually, usually, no, actually it's usually clogged tear ducts. Things are escaping into the nose. They're just tearing, filling the eye and draining out.

17:35 Adam So how does the tear duct thing work?

17:37 Drew They're right, you can see them. They're right in here in the corner.

17:40 Adam Right.

17:40 Drew And they drain into the, you know.

17:42 Adam They drain, I thought they drain, I thought they push the stuff outside and roll down your cheek.

17:46 Drew No, that's tears. The actual tear, there's a duct that drains them out.

17:49 Adam Oh, the duct is a drain. Yeah. It's more of a scupper than it is a faucet.

17:54 Drew Yes, exactly.

17:55 Adam Nice.

17:56 Drew Well, there's a faucet too, but that's...

17:57 Adam But that's not your tear duct.

18:00 Drew No.

18:01 Adam What's the tears? The glands. Where tears come from the glands and drain through the ducts? Right. So the tears moisturize your eyeballs.

18:08 Drew Give me that anatomy again.

18:09 Adam I don't wanna see the anatomy book. Chris, please get it. The tears moisturize your eyeballs and drain. And just, it's a constant.

18:17 Drew That's why your nose fills up when you're crying.

18:19 Adam Because it's draining into your nose.

18:22 Caller Yeah, I have runny nose. That happens too. And it's kinda weird, cause when, you know, there's a couple of times when I've had sex, it's just kinda weird.

18:30 Drew Well, it's just your lacrimal.

18:31 Adam Drew says if you put a cat's whisker through there, you can ream it out. Yeah.

18:37 Drew Go ahead and...

18:37 Adam Let's see if we have a lacrimal glow in here. Drew's looking at the eye for a change. I've never seen you open this book and not seen a drawing of a vagina, Drew. I didn't even know there was other stuff in here. You sure that's not a vagina?

18:49 Drew Well, that's on the next page.

18:51 Adam I could hump it.

18:51 Drew No doubt.

18:52 Adam All right, anyway, Drew's showing me the eyeball. Turns out the eyeball's round in the back part too. I thought it was just, you know.

18:59 Drew Flat?

19:00 Adam Eh, whatever, like the earth. All right, Toya. What should she do? Don't worry about it.

19:08 Drew Don't worry about it.

19:08 Adam You're fine.

19:09 Caller Right, that's just me. Okay.

19:10 Drew That's just you, yeah.

19:11 Adam That's just you, baby doll.

19:12 Caller Oh, you call me baby doll. Here they are.

19:15 Drew See, there's the glands up here.

19:17 Caller Oh, I love you.

19:18 Adam All right, I love you too, Toya.

19:20 Drew Here it is. So here's the duct, right, down in the nose here.

19:24 Adam Okay, so basically you have a cavity. Okay, so you have the gland up above your eyelid, sort of between your eyebrow and your eyelid, and off to closer to your ear, not directly over the top. And then that gland produces a fluid and that comes down and washes the eye. And then it drains down the bottom corner, closest to your eye, close to your nose. And then that drains down in your nose.

19:48 Drew You can see the hole if you look like right, look at my lower.

19:50 Adam Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, yeah.

19:54 Drew Do you vomit, your eye?

19:55 Adam It's weird, it's too intimate for me. All right, that's enough. Blue?

20:00 Yes.

20:01 Adam You're 22? What's up?

20:04 Caller This is my question. My girlfriend and I want to have a threesome with another girl, but we're not sure how this would bring up the subject.

20:11 Drew Mm-hmm. That seems weird.

20:13 Adam Do you need a threesome if we already got two chicks?

20:16 Drew Isn't that right?

20:17 Adam Yeah, I don't know. Third vagina.

20:20 Caller Well, I mean.

20:21 Drew Blind.

20:22 Caller Why not?

20:22 Adam Well, I know why not, but I mean, you know, it's cool. I mean, I'm hip, I'm not uptight, but I'm just saying. We just don't hear about threesome chick things too much.

20:33 Drew Single sex threesomes.

20:35 Caller Oh, I'm sorry. Maybe a little bit more liberated than some people.

20:38 Drew No, it's not usually liberation.

20:40 Adam You replace liberated with screwed up, and I think. You're about there. You got it. So that's all right. How long have you been with your girlfriend? Two years. And whose idea was it to have the threesome?

20:51 Caller We were sort of talking about it, and I have never been with a guy before, so that really wasn't an option.

20:57 Drew Oh, wait, you said another girl.

20:58 Caller I'm sorry, yeah.

20:59 Drew Not an option, guy's not an option.

21:01 Caller Yes.

21:01 Drew Okay, so that's.

21:02 Adam Guy's not an option, why? You've never been with a guy before.

21:05 Caller No, I have not.

21:05 Adam So why is that not an option?

21:08 Caller It's just I've never particularly found guys that attractive.

21:12 Drew Your girlfriend brought up a guy?

21:14 Adam I know, but.

21:14 Drew Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, this is bye-bye stuff.

21:17 Adam Well, wait a minute, who brought up the guy?

21:20 Caller Well, she said, what about a guy? And I said, I'm not really comfortable doing that. She said, that's fine. And then we just moved right to the idea of a girl.

21:27 Drew But she was really the opening volley was to get a penis into the mix.

21:31 Caller The first gender was guy, yes.

21:33 Drew Yeah, this is her kind of move in that direction. Is she bisexual?

21:37 Caller I know that she has been with guys, yes.

21:40 Drew Okay, that would worry me if I were you.

21:42 Adam She got some energy? Is she a little screwy?

21:45 Caller I wouldn't say she's screwy. Actually, pretty normal.

21:48 Drew She was never sexually abused?

21:50 Caller No, I have not.

21:51 Drew She?

21:52 Caller No, she has not. I mean, she never brought it up as far as I know she has not.

21:55 Drew You might want to ask her about that because this is that kind of behavior.

21:58 Adam Does she hate her dad?

22:00 Caller No, they're actually very close.

22:01 Adam Oh really? Yes. All right, and your dad are doing okay? Yes. All right.

22:06 Drew Well, I get the feeling blue is true, true blue lesbian. But the girlfriend worries me a little bit. She's making a move.

22:13 Adam You are probably like a biological lesbian. You just, that's what you're into.

22:20 Caller I mean, it's just something that's always sort of, you know.

22:22 Drew Yeah, it's just you.

22:23 Adam That's you. But your girlfriend...

22:26 Drew The fact she's bringing chaos into the mix, wants to bring a penis in, all signs that there's more going on with her than the usual phenomenon.

22:34 Adam What does your girlfriend do?

22:36 Caller She works at Starbucks.

22:39 Drew And where?

22:40 Adam Oh, Starbucks. Boy, that was a horrible pronunciation of Starbucks. And is she, does she have any weird aggressive piercings or tats or anything like that?

22:52 Caller The only piercing she has is her ears and she has her nipple pierced, but that's it.

22:57 Adam Everything's cool with her. We're in her family's together, doesn't hate her mom.

23:02 Caller No, her parents are still together. She has a younger brother and they're close. No real trauma that she's ever mentioned or brought in.

23:10 Drew How old is she?

23:11 Caller She's 22.

23:12 Drew And her relationships have been stable and successful? They don't get chaotic?

23:16 Caller Before me, she had two long-term relationships. One was a guy, one was a girl.

23:22 Adam Well, listen, bring that chick in and go to town. And then call me.

23:27 Caller My other question is, bringing up with the girl and what are the possible ramifications of doing it?

23:33 Drew Well, your relationship will get destroyed. That's usually what happens.

23:36 Adam You can be stabilized, thanks.

23:38 Drew That's usually what happens. People get jealousies or they get attached to the other person or things. You're crossing profound boundaries. There's no, I mean, the only way you can really cross boundaries more seriously would be to kill somebody. You know what I mean? That's as into somebody else as you can get.

23:54 Adam Well, you could kill them and then hump them and then that's a double cross boundary. Yeah.

23:58 Drew That's a two-share.

23:59 Adam Here's the thing, though.

24:00 Caller Just to leave it as a fantasy and not really go.

24:02 Drew Always better, always better.

24:03 Adam Well, here's the thing.

24:04 Drew But you're 22 and...

24:06 Adam Here's the thing, too, which Drew doesn't say, which you have to factor into almost every piece of data that you hear about, which is, you know, Drew says, well, these threesomes, whether they're heterosexual relationships or homosexual relationships, destabilize the relationship and they end up falling apart, which is very true.

24:24 Drew But they would have fallen apart anyway.

24:26 Adam But when they get to the stage where people are in their early 20s, they've been together for a year and a half and somebody says, let's bring a third person into the mix.

24:34 Drew It's over.

24:36 Adam They're ready. They're saying, here's what they're saying.

24:39 Drew I think that's a blues girlfriend saying. I was really like, I want to hang out with you, but I need a little something else.

24:45 Adam Yeah, what they're saying is we're graduating in a few weeks, let's destroy the school. We're out of here. Let's have some fun. Let's go tell the teachers to f off and let's just have a good time. Because we're out. And that's what you do. Yes?

25:00 Drew So your point, the point you're making is just the fact that she's bringing this up suggests that it's already done. And just the-

25:07 Adam I am, but I would say for 30% of the relationships, they're starting, they start to head toward chaos. You could stop them. Reel them in a little bit, rediscover your intimacy.

25:18 Drew And or not actually burn the school down and just go through the graduation comfortably and get on with things.

25:24 Adam All right. We'll take a quick break. Why don't we come back? Having a second, can I? No? Rubbed the penis wrong. Folks disapprove of her being bi. 13! Talk to a 13 year old bisexual after this. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline! I'm Adam Carolla, this sociais guru Binary Matter, Dr. Drew, I can't tell you what, I'll drop.

26:10 Okay, Chris, Christian, he better get him that cough, so he will drop tors. He's gotten it before, he's wild, watch out.

26:18 Adam Ha, ha, ha, eight thirty-seven. El Cone, seventy-seven, New Hall Saga, kamu medium. I know 77, Linwood, 77 Degrees, Norco, DeVore, Glendor, Azusa, all check it in 77 Degrees, 405 Sloan Goal, look out for break lights. All right, you ready to hop of the phones here, buddy? All right. News and traffic the way they are. Every 40 seconds, news and traffic coming up. We'll hop back on the phones, get back on the phones. You ready to rock here, Drew? I'll drop Drow. Jessica.

27:51 Yeah.

27:52 Adam Thirteen.

27:54 Yeah.

27:54 Adam Call him from Santa Barbara. Let me check that. Chris, you got a weather stat on Santa Barbara. Jessica, what's it coming in at, buddy? 77. 77 degrees, Santa Barbara. What's happening, Jessica? What can we do you for? By the way, Jessica, 13 years old, that's seven away from 20. That's 13 after birth. What's happening, Jessica?

28:13 Me and my girlfriend, we've been together for like a year, and I'm bi and she's bi, and our parents don't like the relationship and her mom doesn't approve of me.

28:27 Drew Her mom doesn't approve of you, but your parents approve of her?

28:30 Well, my mom's okay with it. She's not happy about it, but she wanted to live with it.

28:37 Drew What about your dad?

28:38 He's not in the picture.

28:41 Drew Shocking.

28:43 Adam Shocking. Do you know where he is?

28:44 Not exactly.

28:48 Drew Did he do something to you before he left?

28:51 No, that was my stepdad.

28:53 Drew Your stepdad did something to you?

28:54 Adam My stepdad molested you.

28:55 Drew So do you like goth or something or dress in funny ways that the mom might not like?

29:04 I wear a lot of dark colors.

29:07 Adam Yeah. Here's Jessica. Here's what I find people have difficulty with in life. Our society is filled with people saying, everyone discriminates against everybody. We don't like goth.

29:22 Drew I'm just an individual.

29:23 Adam We don't like people to dress any differently. Here's the thing, when you intentionally try to stand out.

29:29 Drew And bring crap down on yourself, you bring crap down on yourself.

29:33 Adam You catch people's eye, and when you catch people's eye, the Japanese have a saying. It goes, let's see, kill whitey. But they also have another saying, Drew. The nail that sticks up gets hammered.

29:52 Drew Oh, like that one.

29:53 I don't necessarily try to stand out. How about trying not to stand out more than any other people do.

30:01 Drew But I think because you were abused, you will naturally have a tendency. Yeah, you don't know it, but you can-

30:06 Adam What do you think? You just like that goth crap?

30:08 Drew Right. You can work at not doing it. See, that's the thing. You need to work at not doing it because it's the impulse, the attraction is the things that will bring more abuse upon you.

30:21 Adam As far as your relationship or your declaration of bisexuality at 13, it freaks out parents when kids really declare anything sexual before the age of 16.

30:34 Drew It freaks. It should freak them out because your brain isn't then developing it. How can you possibly figure out what's what?

30:39 Adam How long has this girl been your girlfriend, Jessica?

30:41 Like a year.

30:44 Adam A year.

30:44 Drew Since you were 12.

30:45 Adam Do you guys have sex?

30:48 Yeah.

30:49 Adam You do? Oh boy. How often?

30:53 Not that often.

30:55 Adam All right. Does your mom know about this? She just thinks it's your girlfriend, like you guys kiss and hug and stuff?

31:05 Yeah.

31:08 Drew Jessica, you've been in the hospitals before?

31:12 No.

31:13 Adam Have you got any therapy for what your stepdad did to you?

31:16 Yeah.

31:17 Adam You have? Is he still around?

31:22 Yeah, but I don't really see him or anything.

31:24 Drew Do you talk to the therapist anymore still?

31:27 Yeah.

31:27 Drew Do you tell him or her about this girlfriend and what you do?

31:30 Yeah.

31:31 Adam Okay. What about the stepdad? He's around, but you don't see him?

31:37 Well, my younger brother sees him, but I don't.

31:44 Adam Yeah, I understand that. Do you just close your eyes when you walk through the living room or something?

31:50 My parents are divorced.

31:51 Adam All right. Well, you said he was around, so that usually means he's around. Yeah. So they're divorced?

31:59 Yeah.

31:59 Adam Okay. Does your mom know what happened with you and him?

32:02 Yeah.

32:04 Adam Is that the reason she divorced him?

32:07 I'm not sure.

32:09 Adam You get along okay with your mom?

32:13 Drew She's got to be pretty angry at the mom.

32:15 Adam I would be too. Jessica, here's the deal. You're 13. What it is is, your stepdad got hold of you when you were eight and made you an adult. Yeah. So now, instead of being 13, you feel like you're 33.

32:29 Drew But you're not.

32:29 Adam But you're not. You're 13. What your stepfather did to you was-

32:34 Drew Atrocious.

32:35 Adam Yeah. It's going to screw you up. Then you're going to act out.

32:38 Drew But you're in therapy, just keep taking direction of the person who's taking care of you and talk honestly about what's going on.

32:43 Adam Dad's abandoning the family and all that. It's all a recipe for being screwed up. So you got to do a little work, so you're not screwed up. You got to do your therapy. You got to not act on your impulses. Here's the thing. When you get screwed up, you're going to have impulses, and every one of them or 95 percent of them are going to be bad. The people you choose to be with, the direction you choose to go sexually, the trajectory, your dress, everything is going to be bad. Every one of those decisions you make is going to be bad. You're going to get into drugs, you're going to start screwing up in school. You got to head that off at the past.

33:22 Drew Yeah, absolutely.

33:24 Adam Because here's the deal. Why make things more difficult than they already are?

33:28 Drew Well, that's the point. But you know what it is, because they're attracted to it.

33:32 Adam Right.

33:32 Drew Attracted to the hell.

33:34 Adam I know. This is why, by the way, this is why these people need to be punished in a way that goes beyond.

33:44 Drew Public punishment.

33:46 Adam Well, it goes beyond. Their damage lasts and lasts and lasts. Whereas somebody stealing your car or even being traumatized by being held up or something at 40 does not have the effect that this has.

34:02 Drew This stuff of parents and people close to children, exploiting them and abusing them, changes their brain development permanently. In fact, I'm a speaker at an organization called the National Council on Sexual Addiction Compulsivity.

34:16 Adam Hold on a second, Drew. Riverside, check it in. 77 El Cajon, 77 New Hall, Saga 77 Rancho Santa Margarita, 77 Carson, 77 Fulton, 77 Banning, 77 Pacoima, 77 degrees, Westminster 77, Chula Vista 77, Encino 77, Stanton 77, Recita 77, Chevy and Hills 77 degrees, Hawaiian Grades 77, Ukiah 77, Redland 77, Upland 77, Santa Ana 77 degrees, El Segundo 77 degrees, Linwood 77, Norco 77 degrees, DeFour, Glendora and Azusa, all checking in 77. 837, 37 after 823 away from 945, Sloan Goh lookout for brake lights in the 101, mattress in lanes on the 110.

34:51 Drew Go ahead, Drew. Friday light, but watch out for the brake lights.

34:53 Adam Yeah, that's right, watch out.

34:55 Drew The, I was looking at the program schedule and they're gonna be presenting some new data I'm gonna bring back about how the evidence of the brain changes from abuse. What that's all coming in now.

35:05 Adam Pet scans?

35:06 Drew Pet scans, all that stuff.

35:07 Adam How do they tell? What's it look like?

35:09 Drew I'm gonna find out, I'll tell you when I get it.

35:11 Adam Well, you mean it's like if you get kicked in the head?

35:14 Drew No, it's different. It's how, the different areas how they communicate function.

35:17 Adam So you get molested and the brain of a-

35:20 Drew Changes.

35:21 Adam Okay, so you get molested at five.

35:23 Drew Yeah.

35:23 Adam And you take a PET scan of the person's brain at 15 and it's different than a normal 15 year old.

35:29 Drew Right, absolutely.

35:31 Adam And the PET scan is a chamber that you enter?

35:35 Drew Yeah.

35:37 Adam What do you think the temperature is in there?

35:38 Drew It's gonna be 77 degrees. It's gonna be a functional MRI scan probably, FMRIs.

35:42 Adam Sorry, yeah, I say FM too. I don't do anyone any good.

35:45 Drew But it's gonna be interesting.

35:46 Adam Wow, very controversial. Drew's saying FMRIs, screw them. That's the man, Drew's into holistic stuff. Yeah, F those MRIs. I'm with you. All right, you ready to rock, Drew?

35:58 Yeah.

35:59 Adam Scott?

36:01 Yeah?

36:01 Adam You're 16?

36:02 Caller Uh-huh.

36:03 Adam What's up?

36:05 Caller Me and my girlfriend were playing around and it got, I don't know, kind of hot and heavy, but make a long story short, I pretty much got a clothing burn on my penis. Mm-hmm.

36:20 Drew Good times.

36:21 Adam All right. Yeah. All right.

36:23 Drew And?

36:24 Caller I just wanted to know how long I should let it heal and how long I should wait before pulling around again.

36:32 Adam Before you don the denim glove and get back to masturbation?

36:37 Caller No.

36:39 Adam All right, you want to know. Drew, that would be a good, that's what you ought to do with your boys. Get them a glove made by Wrangler. You know what I mean?

36:48 Drew Rough up the penis?

36:49 Adam Well, here's the reality. Let me explain something, Drew.

36:51 Drew I'm listening. All ears.

36:53 Adam You ever watch those Kung Fu movies and the master's training the guy and he's punching the wooden block, you know? Pow! He's doing push-ups on his knuckles, punching glass, sometimes putting his hands in hot sand. It's all to toughen the man up.

37:09 Drew I see.

37:09 Adam Now, from age, and your kids are getting to that age, from age like 13 to 15 and a half, those are prime dry-humping ears. It's almost nothing but dry-humping. If you're not with someone, you're doing it on your own.

37:24 Drew Sure.

37:24 Adam It's a lot of rubbing, a lot of grinding, a lot of just leg-humping. You're really like a dog. The penis, the uninitiated penis, penis has not been through my training regimen, can be sometimes withered down to a nub against the genes. Wow. Yeah, and there's no wearing the cotton slacks or sweatpants at that age because you're getting a boner every 30 seconds.

37:48 Drew Maybe you ought to devise or invent a special type of undergarment.

37:52 Adam No.

37:53 Drew Some underpants that-

37:55 Adam I told you.

37:55 Drew Fleece underpants.

37:57 Adam No, just a denim glove.

37:59 Drew Just to soften the penis. Just to soften the penis. That'll suit them the rest of their life. You'll be preparing them for a lifetime of penile abuse.

38:06 Adam Right. Yeah. All right. Oh, yeah. Scott, Scott's going to be fine.

38:12 Drew Yeah. Listen, Scott, I cannot tell you how long a burn is going to take to heal. It's going to take what it takes. You're not to use it until it's healed.

38:19 Adam What's he? Should he put anything on it? No. No.

38:22 Drew Soap and water.

38:22 Adam Soap and water. Scott? All right, buddy. Where are you, buddy? Our phone lines. Here's the thing. The phone lines on the show are so effed up and the callers are so effed up that you never quite know what it is because there's a three-second delay on the callers and then oftentimes the phone lines are screwed up. You're never sure which one it is, and I can't tell anymore.

38:49 Drew I know.

38:50 Adam All right. Let's take a breakthrough. Riverside checking in 77. El Cohn 77. New Hall 77. Santa Margarita 77 degrees. Carson 77. Fulton 77. Banning. What's that coming in at, Chris? Have you got that in front of you?

39:04 77.

39:04 Adam 77. Pacoima 77. Westminster?

39:07 77.

39:08 Adam Chula Vista?

39:09 77.

39:10 Adam El Cajon?

39:11 77.

39:11 Adam Stanton?

39:12 77.

39:12 Adam Reseda?

39:13 76.

39:14 Adam Sheffield Hills?

39:15 77.

39:15 Adam Hawaiian Gardens?

39:16 77.

39:17 Adam Yucaypa?

39:17 Caller 77.

39:18 Adam Redlands?

39:18 Caller 77. Upland? Upland? 77.

39:22 Adam Santa Ana?

39:23 Caller 77.

39:24 Adam El Segundo?

39:25 Caller 76.

39:26 Adam Oh, wait a minute. He's right.

39:28 Drew Oh, no.

39:28 Adam It's back up to 77.

39:29 We're checking with our cell phone force.

39:33 Adam They're out there.

39:34 Drew Thanks for calling in.

39:35 Adam All right. Found out it's 77. Sloan going to 405. Look out for break lights in the 101, 837, 37. take a quick break and be right back after this. We'll be right back. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOV. Drew and I were just talking during the break about that spaceship crash. Well, the satellite crash in the desert, made a man just right in, awesome.

40:36 Drew It's amazing to just vaporize.

40:39 Adam Great footage of it just falling through the atmosphere. But I was saying to Jimmy today, I was reading the newspaper, I was reading a little article about it, and it's like, the thing cost, I don't know, 245 million bucks. And then we're looking to spend 85 billion in the next 15 years over at NASA. And then I thought, we spend billions of dollars in space, and then we bring this data, and then we come back and we share it with the world. Yeah. Here you go, Mexico. Uh-uh. I'd say we start selling it. We've got to recoup some of those losses. I mean, and by the way, let me just say this about all you a-holes out there, that it's always, the United States is so, who's sending stuff up into space and trying to figure out the atmosphere and what's going on and what the future holds, and what potential dangers there are and all that kind of stuff. Let me put it this way. If it was one of those movies where one of those big chunks of space debris was hurling, size of Texas was hurling toward the Earth, who do you think would get, who are we counting on? Mexico? Middle East? You guys handle it. Really? Planets gone. I've seen the movies. It's Bruce Willis and company that get up there. It's Americans that do it. Everyone does it. The rest of the world can't stay in this country. They're jealous. They can't stay in this country. Who's spending, who just, who's going to spend $100 billion and go up and collect data about the tides and the moon and solar flares and all. Who figures all this stuff out, you idiots? Us. Not you, us. The guys you hate. But you hate us because we're smarter than you are. They hate you just like you'd hate the captain of the football team if he was also the captain of the speech and debate team and also getting straight as. That's what you hate.

42:34 Drew That's envy.

42:35 Adam It's envy. Of course. So let's blow them up. That's what it is.

42:39 Drew Envy is hatred.

42:40 Adam I just can't stand the pussies in this country that get on board with that. Like, oh yeah, they should hate us. They're right. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Africa, you take charge of curing AIDS. Mexico, you're on space. We'll hang back for a few years, see how things go. Let's try that. How about that? Okay. We've got the Middle East. You guys handle music, features, television, entertainment. Mexico, space exploration, and Africa, you do disease control. We're going to chill out for about 20 years. We'll see how things go. Let's all just close our eyes and imagine. Imagine how that works. Yeah. I'm just saying, let's sell it. Let's sell it to them. We found out a bunch of stuff. We got a bunch of stuff from the sun. The thing cost 250 million bucks, crashed into the desert. Now we got to recoup. We're like a drug company. We did the R&D. Now we got to start making some money off it. Go to Europe, go to Germany, go to France, go to Canada. What do you guys got?

43:43 Drew They must have some way of recouping that. They must.

43:47 Adam I don't know. I say, want to get it from the other countries, get the information from the other. Sell it to the other countries. Mexico. I can see it now. Mexico is like, is the moon made of queso, is it cheese? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe 20 bucks would loosen. It's not cheese. I didn't say it was. I didn't say it wasn't, Max. Go, how about a couple of bucks? Have a couple of bucks.

44:15 Drew Here you go, Mr. Yor. It's not cheddar.

44:18 Adam It's not cheddar. I'll tell you that. Twenty bucks lets you know that it's not going to go well with nachos.

44:26 Forty bucks, it's not Gruyer, it's not Gouda.

44:31 Adam It's not Gouda. Okay. Sixty. Now I'm starting to think, I'm not sure if it's all cheese. May just be a cheese core. Drew, we should do that. Recoup some of that money. Let's talk to you. Yeah, let's go. Let's get it going now.

44:52 Drew Traffic and weather.

44:53 Adam Man, it's been a busy night.

44:55 Drew Moons travel.

44:57 Adam Melissa?

44:58 Yeah.

44:58 Adam You're 21?

44:59 Yes.

45:00 Adam What's up?

45:02 Yep.

45:03 Adam Is there more gravity on the moon or less? I guess we'd have to talk to the guys who went there. If I gave them 50 bucks, I could probably get them out here. Yeah, that's what we'll do. We'll do. I don't even know. I don't know if they would know how far things were. We really make money just selling secrets of the universe. Yes? Melissa?

45:31 Caller Yeah.

45:32 Adam You're 21?

45:33 Caller Yeah.

45:34 Caller What's up?

45:37 Caller Well, I'm having problems because before I was married, I didn't really like sex. I was scared of it. Now that I'm married and have a kid, about a year into my marriage, my husband doesn't want to do anything new. He doesn't want to go down on me or anything.

45:56 Drew Now that you've had a child, you've lost all your modesty.

45:59 Adam What was that? You lose your modesty.

46:03 Caller Yeah, I guess.

46:05 Adam All right. Why doesn't your husband want to go down on you?

46:08 Caller I don't know. He says it's in the Bible that we're not supposed to do it.

46:13 Drew I'll have to show you that one. Make sure it's the King James version.

46:18 Adam Yeah. Well, maybe the fact that you're not supposed to do anything except for the procreation part. No? All right. He's a religious man?

46:29 Drew When it suits him.

46:29 Adam When it comes to oral sex. He won't or wants you to?

46:37 Caller He won't let me do it to him.

46:38 Adam Really?

46:41 Caller We have sex like every two months, like once every two months.

46:46 Adam He won't let you give him oral sex?

46:48 Caller Yeah, he won't.

46:50 Adam Does he have a brain tumor? Is he gay?

46:56 Caller Probably not. I hope not. God, I hope not.

46:59 Adam What's he do for a living?

47:01 Caller Stucko.

47:02 Drew Stucko.

47:03 Adam Did you say Stucko?

47:04 She said Stucko.

47:06 Adam She said Stucko.

47:07 Drew Let's take a break. I'm intrigued by Melissa.

47:10 Adam You're saying Stucko or Stucko? All right. Do you know anything about Stucko?

47:15 No.

47:16 Adam Okay. Hold on a second.

47:18 Drew She doesn't know how to say it, Adam.

47:20 She didn't talk about that.

47:22 Adam You should always be able to pronounce your husband's trade.

47:26 Drew I think that'd be good.

47:28 Adam He's a crappender. All right.

47:33 Drew Car painter.

47:34 Adam We will take ourselves a, but that could be car painter.

47:37 Drew That's the point.

47:39 Adam All right. We'll take a quick break. Don't hang up on Melissa. We'll be back to make fun of her after this.

47:45 Caller Here it is.

47:45 Caller Bottom line, it sucks being single today. Tons of lame people and no decent prospects. Call the Dateline, call the Dateline, call the Dateline.

47:53 Caller 1-877-889-DATE. Loveline will be right back, so get your problems ready. This hour brought to you in part by AXE.

48:34 Adam Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's my partner, and on again, off again lover, Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-A-V-E-1-9-1. All right there, buddy.

48:46 Drew Here we go.

48:46 Adam You ready to rock?

48:47 Drew We're gonna get back to Melissa.

48:48 Adam Let's get it on.

48:49 Drew Melissa's husband is gay, I believe.

48:51 Adam Let's get it on now. Come on, let's get it on.

48:55 Caller Get it on.

48:59 Adam Freak out. Let's get it on. All right. It's time to get it on. Got to get it on. Melissa?

49:08 Caller Yeah.

49:09 Adam All right, so your husband.

49:12 Drew Who is how old?

49:13 Caller He is 31.

49:15 Drew And you're 21.

49:16 Adam 10 years older.

49:17 Drew Has he ever been married before?

49:18 Caller No, I have a baby with somebody else.

49:21 Drew Who?

49:23 Adam Great times. And he does stucco.

49:27 Drew And he has sex with you once every two months and tells you that you can't have oral sex because the Bible tells you not to, right?

49:33 Adam Yeah.

49:35 Drew Is that about summing it up?

49:36 Yeah.

49:37 Drew Alyssa?

49:38 Yes.

49:40 Drew What?

49:41 Yeah.

49:41 Drew That sums it up, right?

49:44 Adam Oh, these phones. And he does stucco. What's he do? Does he work on houses or apartments?

49:53 Caller Everything above. Like buildings, businesses, homes, apartments.

49:59 Adam That is a horrible gig, by the way, stucco.

50:02 Drew Stucco.

50:03 Adam Or stucco, as you call it. We don't talk about it. We focus on roofers a lot on this show and drywallers, but stucco, horrible gig.

50:12 Drew Stucco's sort of a, it's a transience job, isn't it? Because you never, you just come and put the stucco on and you leave, right?

50:19 Adam Yeah, it's just, here's your choices.

50:21 Drew You call it specialized, but it's more like the job nobody wants to do.

50:24 Adam Here's your choice with stucco. First off, you have to wrap the entire house with something called K-Lath, which sucks. Because it's just, you take these big metal sharp things and just wrap the whole nail the hell out of it, staple it off. Then you whip up stucco, which is essentially cement. And you whip it up, you put it on a hawk. That's what that thing's called, that flat thing with the handle in the middle. It's called a hawk. And then you take your trowel and you roll it on the stuff. And if you don't know what you're doing, it just rolls right off. Like the first 10 times try, it just rolls right off. And you put your scratch coat on, it's a notch. It's a notched trowel, it puts scratches, puts lines in it, so the next coat adheres. Can't put on too thick, it'll crack. Then you put your brown coat and the last coat, that's your color coat. Yes, Drew?

51:14 Drew Yes, Adam.

51:15 Adam Melissa? Yeah, so you're sitting there by that hopper, just mixing up stucco all day. Taping off the windows, you got to tape everything off, get to put the plastic over the windows and the doors and the vents and all that crap.

51:30 Drew What was it? Was it plaster before stucco? What did they do?

51:32 Adam On the outside of houses? No, outside of houses were like brick and wood, clapboard and stuff like that, and like the east and everything. And then stucco like start coming in in the 50s, 40s, 50s, 30s, no, no, no. Spanish stuff would do like a form of stucco, like a frame of house.

51:55 Drew Mud.

51:55 Adam Yeah, I mean like mud and straw kind of thing. But yeah, you know, let's say early stuff, probably like 1910, 1915 or something like that.

52:05 Drew And then I think, look up stucco.

52:07 Adam Look up the history of stucco, Chris.

52:09 Drew When you look at these houses.

52:10 Adam Come on, buddy. And don't give me, don't eyeball me, boy.

52:12 Drew These houses seem like I have like a substantial front.

52:15 Adam Did you see him eyeballing me? He eyeballed me.

52:17 Drew Watch out.

52:19 Adam I'll drop true. All right, yeah, what are you saying, Drew?

52:21 Drew These houses have like a substantial front that look like Mediterranean stuff. Is that still stucco? They just shape it differently or frame it or?

52:27 Adam Yeah, you can do whatever you want with it. History of stucco.

52:29 Drew It looks like cement though, basically sometimes.

52:31 Adam Yeah, when it dries, it is essentially cement. It's just whatever, it's hollow inside. I mean, you frame a house, you wrap, you make the windows or walls as thick as you want. Just put a two by four up over here, put another one three foot away. The window will be three feet deep. See what I'm saying? It's all hollow inside.

52:50 Drew You have to put insulation and stuff in there.

52:52 Adam You can put insulation there. Actually, if you got like three foot of air space, it creates its own insulation. That's probably why they did it. It was before that insulation. Melissa? Yeah. Melissa's so excited about the building. All right, all right. And I don't, this guy's a little kooky. First off, anybody that quotes the Bible, reads the Bible, follows the Bible is a nut or an idiot or just, you know, you know, I mean, come on. It's, it's, it's, it's a fairy tale.

53:22 Drew So hold on, wait, I will beg to differ. Because you could, you could say that the Bible, what was that? She lives in a haunted house. Yeah. The Bible is a cumulative, a book of cumulative wisdom. There's a lot of stuff in there that's accurate. Sure. It's a way that people can digest and understand things about human behavior and how to live one's life in ways that are.

53:40 Adam People don't treat it that way though.

53:41 Drew I understand, but you know, don't rank on it too badly.

53:44 Adam All right, just mostly towards it. Read it. Melissa?

53:47 Caller Yes. Yes?

53:53 Adam What are you doing, by the way? What are you doing right now?

53:56 Caller I was laying down in the bed, but I got up and left the room.

54:00 Drew Oh, thanks. Well, she walked away.

54:03 Adam How's your kid doing?

54:06 Drew Who is her father?

54:10 Caller My ex-boyfriend, Renee.

54:12 Drew Oh, Renee.

54:13 Adam How's he doing? Is he still in the picture?

54:16 Caller No.

54:17 Adam He doesn't see the child?

54:19 Caller No.

54:19 Drew Is your current husband a good father to the child? And what do you think is going on with him? Why doesn't he want to have sex?

54:27 Caller I don't know, because before we got married, I lost my virginity when I was 15, and I never liked sex. And when I got together with him, I didn't like it. And now I don't know if it's because I'm getting older, but I want to try new things, and now he just, he blows me off.

54:45 Drew Yeah, he didn't like it to begin with, and he still doesn't like it.

54:48 Adam All right, and listen, why do you think he doesn't like sex? Well, I lost my virginity at 15, and I wasn't into sex, and now I'm into it, and he doesn't want it.

54:57 Caller Yeah, I know.

54:59 Adam That's all our callers can do is restate their question over and over again. And I don't know, we don't have any clue. I don't know if the guy's gay, or he's going through some sort of religious crisis or something. You turn him off.

55:12 Drew It just sounds gay to me.

55:14 Adam Well, Drew, you're a man of such exquisite passion.

55:17 Drew Can't compute.

55:18 Adam Forget about the passion of the Christ. What about the passion of the Drew? That, that's a movie I'd like to see. Oh yeah. The passion of the Drew.

55:27 Drew No, you wouldn't.

55:28 Adam Nailing chicks, not to the cross, just nailing them. Left and right. Passionate, passionate man and his disciples. Yeah, candy stripers looking to get a break on their schedule. Yeah, looking up to Dr. Drew. Yeah, all right, what'd you find out? So look, I don't know, Melissa sounds, don't have any, Melissa sounds dumb and depressed and everything else. Don't have any more kids.

55:55 Drew Please.

55:55 Adam That's A number one. If you break up with this guy, you break up with this guy. What'd you find out about stucco, Chris?

56:01 Caller It's been used since the ancient times.

56:04 Adam Yeah, I know, but that's not stucco. Strong wood and mud.

56:07 Caller Another word for it is called plaster. It is plaster?

56:11 Caller It is.

56:11 Adam No.

56:12 Caller Well, it says it right here.

56:14 Adam Yeah, but stucco mix and plaster mix are two different mixes. I mean, in the modern day version of it. Yes?

56:22 Caller It says it's been interchangeable, so.

56:24 Drew Interchangeable doesn't mean the same thing, though.

56:28 Adam And when did it start being used in modern day building?

56:31 Caller Late 1800s.

56:32 Adam Late 1800s. All right. So right about the turn of the century there. Interesting. Are you ready to rock here, Drew? Kira?

56:41 Yeah.

56:42 Adam You're 18?

56:43 Caller Uh-huh.

56:44 Adam What's happening?

56:46 Well, my boyfriend and I have been going out for three years.

56:48 Caller Mm-hmm.

56:51 I have two questions. And my first question is, he comes too fast when we're having intercourse. Mm-hmm. And I would like to know how to prevent him from doing that.

57:01 Drew You gotta go a second time, or a third time.

57:03 Well, we do. And we go up to four, and then he gets too tired and he can't do it anymore.

57:09 Adam Wow, he's only good for four? Oh my God, four. He's only good for four orgasms in one session.

57:20 Drew How dare he?

57:23 Adam Has he had a spinal injury or something? Is he handicapped in any way?

57:27 No, he's not. He's perfectly fit and everything.

57:30 Adam Perfectly fit? Only pull in the quad in the orgasm department?

57:38 Caller I guess so.

57:41 Adam I got to believe there's some sort of tumor on a spine or something. You should have him checked out.

57:48 Drew Too hydrated.

57:48 He may be dehydrated.

57:49 Drew Not producing enough fluid.

57:50 Adam Yeah, he's not producing.

57:52 Could that be it?

57:53 Adam Drinks, yeah.

57:54 Drew He drinks pretty much four orgasms.

57:56 Adam Right.

57:57 Drew And allows him to have four orgasms, or only four orgasms.

57:59 Adam Right, right, yeah. Yeah, he should be into the low 20s. You know.

58:05 Drew Pretty good MRI.

58:06 Adam 22, 23 orgasms. Yeah. Kira, four is pretty good.

58:13 Drew Crazy.

58:13 Adam Four is fine in a session.

58:16 Drew Superhuman.

58:18 Adam Yeah, how long does it take all total to get the four out?

58:24 Within a span of a day, probably all up to five, six hours.

58:31 Adam Five, six hours.

58:32 Drew But he's taking those breaks in between, huh?

58:34 Yeah, of course, yeah.

58:35 Adam And, all right, but that's not enough sex for you, or, I don't understand.

58:39 Caller Well, no, it's like, it's enough completely, but it's just the fact that, like, it's not pleasurable, and I, you know, I kinda wanna go more into it, but he wants to kinda get it done, and I kinda, you know.

58:53 Drew You're not being clear with us. What do you mean by that?

58:55 Caller Well, like, like pleasurable, like, he doesn't do enough for me. It's all about him.

59:01 Drew You mean, you mean, like, he doesn't do any foreplay kinda stuff?

59:05 Caller He does, like, at the beginning, but then he's like, oh, let's just get into it kinda thing.

59:09 Drew Okay, well, that's, every male will do that.

59:11 Caller Yeah.

59:11 Drew That's not just cause your boyfriend is quick on the draw. That's just the way men are, and he has to come, how old is he?

59:19 Caller He's 18.

59:20 Drew No, young males do not, they're raised to believe that men and women are the same. All that crap that's out there teaches men that they're all the same, the women are just the same, they want everything the same as men. Totally different experience for women, totally different biology, and he has to learn to appreciate what's different in you and what you need in order to be aroused. And you gotta be real clear with him, cause he has no idea.

59:42 Adam Yeah.

59:42 Drew No idea.

59:43 Adam Yeah, you set, you are the metronome. You set the cadence. Don't leave the guy alone, he'll pile through.

59:50 Drew Yeah, left up to his own devices?

59:53 Adam Yeah. No, I mean, it's like telling your dog, look, I'm gonna leave all the snossages. That's a treat, Drew. I'm gonna leave them, I'll leave them all out. And then you take one a day. One or two a day. Don't go sick with them, please.

1:00:09 Drew And wait till tomorrow.

1:00:10 Adam Show some restraint.

1:00:11 Drew Wait till tomorrow.

1:00:11 Adam Well, have the one tonight, and then tomorrow, noonish, go ahead and have another one. Now, put the thing on top of the refrigerator and you decide how many snossages the dog eats. Yes, Drew?

1:00:25 Drew Yes, Adam.

1:00:26 Adam Yes, Chris, snossage, yes?

1:00:28 Drew I agree.

1:00:29 Adam Yes, that's the point. You gotta do that. Otherwise, they'll just run rough shot right over the vagina.

1:00:34 Drew Or the begging strips or whatever, yes.

1:00:36 Adam Right, that's right. And here's the thing, all guys start off with the, you know, oh baby, I'm going down on you for days, and all that stuff, and eventually just get what they gotta get. Because here's the thing, you guys don't have that sort of biological imperative that we have. You guys, your thing as well, you need the experience of intimacy, and you need to be receptive and all that stuff. Guys, it's like we got something to do.

1:01:02 Drew Here's the thing, for women, arousal and drive are disconnected. So where a man gets aroused, there's an extremely powerful drive to complete.

1:01:10 Adam Yeah.

1:01:10 Drew Extremely powerful.

1:01:11 Adam You know what it's like for us? You ever walking around or you're in work or in a public place and you go and all of a sudden that oyster just flies in the back of your throat and you're like, uh-oh, I'm going to lose it now. And now you're like, I'm going to make your way to the bathroom or out to the sidewalk or something like, it's in there, it's got to come out. There'll be no relaxing at some long winded meeting or something with the oyster in there. It's got to hit a drinking fountain or something. You got to get that thing out of there. That's what it is. It needs to leave. Yes?

1:01:43 Drew Yes.

1:01:44 Adam The sperm needs to exit.

1:01:46 Drew Stage right. Women cannot appreciate the fact that there's a similarity in men between urinating and defecating and the sexual emissions.

1:01:57 Adam Why would it be all that different?

1:01:59 Drew It's not.

1:01:59 Adam It's just another fluid that comes out of you.

1:02:01 Drew It needs to come out. It needs to come out.

1:02:03 Adam Mine's coming out now.

1:02:05 Drew Oh, there it goes.

1:02:06 Adam Yeah, that's it. It's now in my slipper. Yeah.

1:02:13 Drew That's nice. That's pretty.

1:02:14 Adam That's good.

1:02:14 Drew That's nice. A little finger painting now?

1:02:16 Adam Yeah. All right.

1:02:19 Drew Yeah, and women just cannot appreciate that. They're offended by that idea, in fact. Like, what do you mean it needs to come out? It's just, you're gross, you're disgusting. It's like, no, no, that's just the way the male is wired.

1:02:29 Adam That's true, Drew. Can you tell Drew's passion? He's passionate about passion.

1:02:36 Drew I saw the movie.

1:02:37 Adam Yeah, oh, you saw him in Passion of the Drew. Passion of the Drew. Yeah, very passionate. Kathleen?

1:02:47 Yes?

1:02:47 Adam You're 15?

1:02:48 Yeah.

1:02:49 Adam Do you feel Drew's passion?

1:02:51 Caller I do.

1:02:53 Adam Great, what's up?

1:02:56 Caller I've been having sex with my boyfriend for three months, and I cannot reach orgasm ever.

1:03:07 Drew Stop thinking that's gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. It's just not gonna happen.

1:03:12 Caller But not only do I not reach it, but I fake every orgasm.

1:03:16 Drew Well, then it's really not gonna happen.

1:03:18 Adam Oh, God bless you.

1:03:18 Drew Then it's impossible for it to happen.

1:03:20 Adam How old is your boyfriend?

1:03:24 Caller I'm 20.

1:03:26 Adam And you're 15?

1:03:29 Drew When you were 20. When you're 20, you're gonna think about your 20-year-old peers of 15-year-olds, you're gonna vomit.

1:03:35 Adam Ew. What's he do?

1:03:39 Caller He works at 24-Hour Fitness.

1:03:43 Adam All greasy, shaved chest, walking around with his nuts hanging on the floor. God, do I hate this guy. Secretly jealous, too.

1:03:55 Drew Envious.

1:03:55 Adam Yeah, he really, 20, and you feel that's okay? I know you feel all grown up and everything, but the guy's a criminal. And you're faking your orgasms.

1:04:08 Drew It's against the law for a reason, Kathleen, to protect you.

1:04:12 Adam What's up, where's your dad?

1:04:13 Caller He's here, everything with my dad is fine.

1:04:17 Adam Do people, does your family know you're going out with a 20-year-old guy?

1:04:23 Drew No way.

1:04:24 Adam No way, really?

1:04:25 Caller Yeah.

1:04:26 Drew They know he's 20?

1:04:27 Caller Yeah.

1:04:29 Adam He picks you up in his car at home?

1:04:32 Caller Yeah.

1:04:33 Drew Ranchero.

1:04:34 Adam What's he driving?

1:04:35 Caller I think it's a Corolla.

1:04:37 Adam Yeah. Sweet, that's a sweet ride. Sweet, $12,000 car, sweet. All right, and he picks you up and he takes you out and where do you have sex? Is he live at home or does he have his own place?

1:04:56 Drew With four friends.

1:04:57 Adam Your folks just sort of stand by and they're okay with that.

1:05:03 Drew Okay. That doesn't seem right to us.

1:05:05 Adam And does he come in the house and say hi to mom and dad?

1:05:08 Caller Yeah, my parents really like him.

1:05:10 Adam They do?

1:05:11 Caller Yeah.

1:05:12 Drew And he knows 20?

1:05:13 Caller Yeah.

1:05:14 Drew Are they assuming you're gonna marry him or something?

1:05:17 Caller I don't know what they assume.

1:05:19 Adam Do you have one of those nutty nationalities that thinks this kind of stuff is okay?

1:05:25 Caller No.

1:05:28 Adam And dad, what's he do for a living?

1:05:32 Caller He sells insurance.

1:05:34 Adam All right, don't trust him. Okay, I can't figure out why your parents, and your parents do know he's 20. They don't think he's going to high school with you or anything.

1:05:43 Caller No.

1:05:45 Drew And you're 15?

1:05:46 Caller Yes.

1:05:48 Drew All right, well anyway, here's the deal.

1:05:49 Adam I know, Kathleen seems, Kathleen is sort of-

1:05:52 Drew Remarkably have cavalier.

1:05:53 Adam She seems perplexed that we're asking the question.

1:05:56 Drew I know, yeah.

1:05:57 Adam She's, you know, in the, essentially, what grade are you in?

1:06:04 Drew Yeah, we're not kidding. He's breaking the law, Kathleen. He'll go to jail.

1:06:08 Adam Oh, by the way-

1:06:09 Drew So it must be cavalier, it must be cavalier.

1:06:11 Adam How long have you been going out with him?

1:06:12 Drew Three months.

1:06:13 Adam Three months? So I mean, it's like, you were in the ninth grade when he started seeing the guy? Yeah. Okay.

1:06:18 Drew Yeah, but you're saying that as though why would we be asking such an outrageous question?

1:06:22 Adam I don't know. What's wrong with you? What happened? Anything? Never molested? Nothing? You hate your dad? What'd he do?

1:06:29 Caller Nothing happened with my dad. Nothing happened with me.

1:06:33 Adam Everything's good? You love him?

1:06:35 Caller Yeah.

1:06:36 Adam All right. He doesn't like your brother more than you or anything?

1:06:39 Caller No.

1:06:40 Adam No?

1:06:41 Caller No.

1:06:42 Adam All right. How you doing in school?

1:06:44 Caller I'm doing pretty good.

1:06:47 Adam All right. What do you want to do when you're older? Something with horses?

1:06:51 Caller I want to be a controversial journalist or a psychologist.

1:06:55 Adam Oh, interesting.

1:06:57 Drew All right.

1:06:58 Adam Look, if you fake your orgasms, you're going to get angry at him.

1:07:02 Drew Yeah, if you fake your orgasms, he's never going to know that he needs to do more and nor is he going to ever ask you what it is you need. A, B, you need to presumably try to masturbate, see if there's something you can get going on your own, but the probability is under 20, it's not going to happen. Definitely not going to happen with intercourse. You need to know that only 30% of women ever have orgasm with intercourse and of that 30% that's even much smaller under the age of 20.

1:07:26 Adam Drew, what do you think about emotional age? And here's what I'm saying. You know how I would like my alcohol consumption limit raised because of my heavyweight status and because of my ability as a driver?

1:07:44 Drew Yeah, yeah.

1:07:45 Adam And everyone's like, listen, I've been to driving school. I'm a better driver than most people. Fine, I should be able to drive faster, right?

1:07:52 Drew Yeah.

1:07:53 Adam That's just as safe. Look, my stupid mom driving her pile of ass, she's dangerous at any speed.

1:07:59 Drew Probably she's driving around while you're speeding.

1:08:01 Adam Why don't I get a break for what I do? All right, here's what I'm saying. I am, and also I'm used to getting drunk on a nightly basis. I mean, look, I had hand surgery, I had my hand in a club-sized cast, had a couple of Vicodins, couple of beers in me, I was on the road. No problem at all. I'm fine. What do I care? I'm fine. I'm fine. All right. So I would like my thing raised from.08 to like.17. So I'm better. I'm better than most people would be at that. That's all I'm saying. Now, what about this? What about emotional age? I mean, we talk to people-

1:08:36 Drew Emotional intelligence or emotional age?

1:08:38 Adam Emotional age. We talk, and I don't want to say intelligence because I just mean we talk to 15 year olds that are 12 and we talk to 15 year olds that are 21. And I saw them when I was in high school. There was that dude, he had the comb hanging out. They had that bad mustache and the hair parted wherever. And this dude was gonna get married at 18. He was on this trajectory. He was an adult going to high school. While the rest of us were like wrestling and talking about being pirates and stuff like that. This guy was like in shop. He was in auto shop. He was gonna go to work for his cousins who had a body shop. He was essentially, he got out of high school, had a kid eight months later. These guys are adults. And they're adults at 15.

1:09:23 Drew Or they're as adult as they're ever gonna be.

1:09:25 Adam Yeah, they're retarded adults at 14. They're smoking a pack a day at 15. They get their license. They immediately go get their own car. They're totally independent. They got a girlfriend that they've had since the seventh grade, and they're in a five year relationship, and they're in the 10th grade. Can't this guy have sex earlier? Do you know what I'm saying? I mean, this chick Kathleen, she's 15. She just sounded like she was 20. I know you don't like it. It's a slippery slope.

1:09:56 Drew It's tougher for women than males, I think.

1:10:00 Adam There's clearly 15-year-olds who can't handle it. I don't know if that's Kathleen. She's with a guy. The guy's 20. The parents seem to like him. He seems like an all right guy. Maybe it's better.

1:10:11 Yeah.

1:10:11 Adam Better. He's some squirrely 16-year-old. Yeah?

1:10:14 Yeah.

1:10:15 Drew I can accept that.

1:10:17 Adam What about me getting the bump? Getting the bump from 0.08 to 0.1516.

1:10:23 Drew I'll back you up.

1:10:24 Adam Well, can I have a note, by the way? How about a heavyweight note from you? How about that?

1:10:29 Drew Absolutely.

1:10:29 Adam How about this thing where I drink a sixer beer and then just drive the car through some cones? If I do well, I get this heavyweight stamp.

1:10:37 Drew Now, we'll go to Bondurant. We'll have you pound progressively higher levels of alcohol and then find the threshold at which you begin to have trouble functioning.

1:10:46 Adam Then when I'm right below, that's what I get. All right. Let's work that out. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Hey, everybody, Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. We got weather and traffic coming up here, Drew.

1:11:38 Drew Better go to our phone for us. Should we go to our phone for us?

1:11:42 Adam Alexis, she's calling from LA. She's coming in. Alexis? You're 21? You're calling from Los Angeles?

1:11:52 Drew National City. No.

1:11:56 Adam No? Are you saying no?

1:11:57 Drew It was no.

1:11:58 Adam Are you Russian? No. You're calling from National City? Yeah.

1:12:03 Drew National City what?

1:12:04 Adam Where's National City?

1:12:09 Drew Okay. I've never heard of National City.

1:12:13 Adam Listen, everybody. Is everything got to be tooth-pulling? No. Are you calling me? No, I'm not. I'm calling from National City, San Diego. Huh? No? National City sounds like the place that the Music Man showed up to.

1:12:29 Drew River City. Yeah.

1:12:32 Adam Alexis? Drew, you ever in the Music Man in high school?

1:12:35 Drew No, I wanted to be though.

1:12:36 Caller No.

1:12:38 Adam I'll call him from San Diego.

1:12:41 Drew What's the question?

1:12:44 Caller My boyfriend, he masturbates a lot. My last one, he didn't really... He was in high school. He wasn't quite open.

1:12:56 Drew His name is Sir Walter Raleigh. Is that your boyfriend?

1:13:00 Adam Powdered wig, knee-high socks. So he does it in front of you.

1:13:05 Drew All those guys by the way are spinning in their graves right now.

1:13:08 Adam Go ahead, Drew. Quiet.

1:13:09 Drew Alexis.

1:13:10 Caller Go ahead. It just recently occurred to me that I've never masturbated myself. I've never really put my hand down there.

1:13:22 Adam You're 21. It's just dawned on you. Okay, it occurred to you.

1:13:28 Drew Just after watching your boyfriend for the 600th time. Hey, wait a minute.

1:13:31 Caller It doesn't arouse me. We tried where maybe it would help me touch myself and I would get turned on and get aroused, but I don't.

1:13:41 Drew How about watching him?

1:13:44 Adam Watching him doesn't do anything for you?

1:13:49 Caller The whole idea sometimes is for me to get turned on so I can touch myself, because I just can't.

1:13:59 Drew There's a lot of women that do not get anything from masturbation. They don't find it arousing. They don't find it interesting. It's just different for a female than a male. A male, no matter how you shame them, beat them, whatever, they will not get their hands off of their junk. They masturbate, no matter how you try to get them not to, because there's a biological drive that is profoundly different. Now, there is...

1:14:24 Adam So funny, and guys, here's the thing. Women can't just flip it, and guys just can't flip it. Like a guy thinks, hey, if I saw a chick masturbating, that'd be a turn on, you know? So guys, then they whip their shlong out, and they're like, you getting hot? Yeah, look at me touch myself. And they're like, ugh, god, it's a mess.

1:14:45 Caller Like, what are you doing?

1:14:47 Adam I'm getting close. Yeah, I'm getting close to vomiting. Seeming is gonna come out of you, and vomit's coming out of me.

1:14:53 Drew Again, the idea being that if the guy had seen a woman doing that, it would be cool.

1:14:58 Adam You hot? Is somebody making you hot? Yeah, it's too bad, too, because it could, it'd be great, because all you'd have to do, like you could actually pick up chicks. You just pick up chicks by just going like, you just, like a guy could pick up a chick by just going, if they were like guys, just going like, she'd go like, hey babe, would you like a drink? I don't think so. You'd just start rubbing the crotch and they'd be like, ooh, it feels good. Like in the movies, you know? You'd just, you'd really start grabbing a boob and they'd just, they'd melt like butter, yeah. A guy, a guy would do it. A guy, yeah, a guy could be sitting in a bar and a chick could pull up next to him.

1:15:37 Drew What do you mean a bar? He could be a...

1:15:39 Adam A guy could be in court.

1:15:40 Drew Yeah.

1:15:41 Adam A guy could be at a funeral.

1:15:42 Drew Right.

1:15:42 Adam A chick could pull up next to him and be like, yeah, you're looking for some company? And the guy might go, I got a girlfriend. And then she'd just slide her hand on the guy's sweatpants and be like, okay, don't stop. Feels good. He could easily do it. He'd do it at his wife's funeral with his new wife with him. One died and he remarried in like two days and he'd still get away with it. Yeah. Wouldn't it be great?

1:16:10 Drew If girls were actually like guys.

1:16:12 Adam Yeah. And you could just like expose yourself to them. Like, oh yeah. And they just take your shorts and hike it up, show them a little nut. Yeah. Not hot now. Really? What if I start playing with my sack?

1:16:27 Drew Yeah.

1:16:27 Adam Now you're hot, right? No, it's like they're disgusted now.

1:16:32 Drew They're vomiting. Yeah.

1:16:35 Adam Oh, and what about this? This is the male equivalent to this. How about I just go down on you real fast right here at the bar? See, because a guy would just go, all right, just go ahead. Just go ahead and start blowing. Yeah. Imagine that. But seeing the movies that I rent sometimes.

1:16:52 Drew Yes. Sometimes.

1:16:54 Adam He can get them hot. Now I buy. Because I want a legacy.

1:16:59 Drew I see. A collection. But here's the deal.

1:17:02 Caller Let's get Alexis back, can we?

1:17:04 Drew Alexis, there is something interesting about women that does need some exploration is that women actually are uncomfortable with their own genitalia.

1:17:12 Adam Yeah.

1:17:13 Drew Some of them. Some of them are uncomfortable with them and still don't masturbate. But there are those that actually have sort of, I think she used the word disgust. It feels weird to her that things are inside and she doesn't want anything to do with them.

1:17:25 Adam Is that true, Alexis?

1:17:27 Caller Yeah. Like when I touch myself, I just lose interest quickly. It doesn't even turn me on.

1:17:33 Drew What is that? What do you think that is? I understand there's no drive to do it and it doesn't feel that good to you, but what is that so unpleasant about it?

1:17:41 Caller It's just like I just feel myself. When I put my fingers down there, I just feel like I'm feeling a piece of meat.

1:17:51 Drew Yeah, but it might surprise you, but that's attached to your body.

1:17:54 Adam A piece of meat.

1:17:56 Caller Yeah. Like a sirloin is next to me, and I'm feeling it. I feel like that. It's nasty.

1:18:02 Drew It's your body. It's you. It's not nasty.

1:18:04 Caller No, it's me, but that's what he said too, but I don't know.

1:18:10 Drew Yeah, and so you just feel like a No, no, no. Listen, the real problem is there's no drive. The guys, when they're 11, think things are disgusting too that all of a sudden aren't disgusting anymore at 16. You know what I mean? Because there's drive.

1:18:27 Adam Then they get gross again.

1:18:29 Caller Does it make any sense that I have to go wash my hand right afterwards?

1:18:34 Adam Well, look, listen, Alexis, I think there's a range in women and it all is a normal range, but at a certain point you cross into an abnormal spectrum. It seems like you're getting close to that, but here's the question, were you ever shamed or did anyone beat you or weird you out about that part of you?

1:18:59 Caller No, not that I recall, no.

1:19:02 Adam I mean, you didn't have like religious parents telling you it was very dirty down there or anything like that?

1:19:07 Caller Yeah, my mom, she's always yelling at us lecturing, don't come home pregnant, you know, don't.

1:19:14 Drew Yeah, but that's different than don't touch your genitalia, that's a disgusting place.

1:19:18 Adam Or they freak you out?

1:19:21 Drew That was never said.

1:19:23 Adam Are they religious?

1:19:25 Caller No.

1:19:25 Adam Okay.

1:19:27 Drew By the way, don't come home pregnant is good advice. That's not shaming, that's just don't come home pregnant.

1:19:32 Adam I think she's just saying don't come home. So Alexis, how about you start getting over this then? Okay. Well look, here's the whole thing, everybody. There's things that you don't like to do or things that bother you or whatever and they become a sort of constant stumbling point in your life. Go ahead and start working on them a little. Push past them a little bit.

1:19:56 Drew Act as if you could get over it.

1:19:58 Adam Yeah, I mean I'm not going to do it in my life but you should all do it with your lives. You really should.

1:20:03 Drew That's your rule of thumb, Adam, generally. That's you, you know, generally.

1:20:07 Adam Do as I say, not as I do. Of course.

1:20:09 Drew That's your general credo, I think.

1:20:11 Adam But if you, I thought it was credo.

1:20:13 Drew Credo, credo.

1:20:14 Adam It's not credo.

1:20:16 Drew Well.

1:20:17 Adam Skeletal. Credo.

1:20:19 Drew I'm going to go look it up.

1:20:21 Adam Yeah, go look it up. Go look up credo. And see what it says.

1:20:24 Drew Credo.

1:20:25 Adam Credo?

1:20:25 Caller Hey, stocco, stucco, you know.

1:20:27 Adam Yeah. Alright, Chris, calm down. Yeah, go look up credo. Credo. I'm going to take the next call. How about that, Drew? Alright. Nina?

1:20:38 Adam, how are you?

1:20:40 Adam What's happening?

1:20:41 I just want to tell you and Drew that you guys have to be the most intelligent people in entertainment, period.

1:20:46 Adam Really? Thank you.

1:20:49 You're very welcome.

1:20:51 Adam Appreciate it. And now do you think it's credo or credo?

1:20:55 I would probably say credo.

1:20:57 Adam Thank you.

1:20:58 You're welcome.

1:20:59 Adam Alright. This is obviously one of our smartest callers, Drew.

1:21:03 Drew She recognized your genius and she's able to pronounce credo.

1:21:07 Is Drew busy looking something up? Or can he talk?

1:21:10 Adam I think he's found. What was it? C-R-E-E-D-O?

1:21:14 Caller I think it's got a T.

1:21:17 Uh-oh.

1:21:19 Drew The reason I said credo is because...

1:21:21 Adam No, you're not right.

1:21:24 Well, what's the derivative of the word? Where does it come from?

1:21:27 Adam Creed, probably. Like your creed? Hold on a second. Quiet down. She's distracting me. Drew, did you find it?

1:21:37 Drew No, I'm not getting a good...

1:21:38 Caller All right.

1:21:41 Adam I'll talk to Nina. You look up Creed. Oops, I hit the wrong line. Nina. dictionary.com. So you're 23. You're pregnant. Three months pregnant.

1:21:54 Caller Eleven weeks. And I... My husband has a very prominent career. I don't see him very often. And so obviously...

1:22:06 Adam When you say very prominent career, do you mean it or are you just one of these people that because he makes more than 40 grand a year?

1:22:15 Caller No. No one knows I'm calling. Put it this way, if anybody recognizes my voice, I'm pretty much screwed right now.

1:22:24 Adam Hold on a second.

1:22:25 Drew Both pronunciations are here. Credo and Credo. You can look at it yourself.

1:22:30 Caller Credo is listed first.

1:22:32 Drew I'll give you that.

1:22:33 Adam Credo is listed first. That's all I need to know. And isn't it come from Creed?

1:22:39 Drew The Apostles Creed.

1:22:41 Adam But it's not the Apostles Cred.

1:22:44 Drew But it's C-R-E-E-D. Credo is C-R-E-D-O.

1:22:48 Adam Oh it is? Yeah. Oh so wait a minute.

1:22:51 Drew The reason I use Credo is because it's Credo in other languages. And I have the same Italian.

1:22:55 Adam Mr. IHOP over here. Now wait. Here's my point. Is Credo C-R-E-E-D-O?

1:23:04 Drew No. One E.

1:23:05 Adam It's C-R-E-D-O.

1:23:07 Drew Yeah.

1:23:08 Adam Alright. And then what's your Creed? Is that two Es?

1:23:11 Drew Yes.

1:23:12 Adam Is it the same thing or is it different?

1:23:15 Drew Well it can be pronounced either way. Creed is Creed.

1:23:17 Adam Creed is Creed.

1:23:18 Drew But this is Credo or Credo. Chris, back me up on this. You see what that says there? The long E and the long A there.

1:23:25 Adam Listen, this kid's been in your hip pocket since day one, Drew. I don't believe him. Alright, so Credo has one E. And Creed has two.

1:23:35 Drew Yes.

1:23:36 Adam And are they connected? Do you know what I'm saying?

1:23:39 Drew Credo.

1:23:40 Adam Your Credo and your Creed are the same.

1:23:42 Drew Credo comes from Creed.

1:23:43 Adam Yeah, read the definition as long as you're there.

1:23:45 Drew Okay, ready?

1:23:46 Adam Yes.

1:23:46 Drew The definition of one?

1:23:47 Adam Yes.

1:23:47 Drew A Creed.

1:23:48 Adam Alright, number two. A Creed with two E's, right?

1:23:52 Drew Yes.

1:23:52 Adam Why don't they leave the other E in there then?

1:23:56 Caller What do they do that for?

1:23:57 Adam Alright, keep going.

1:24:00 Drew The Apostles Creed, the Nicene Creed, especially as the third item of the Ordinary of the Roman Catholic Man.

1:24:06 Adam Get to the good stuff.

1:24:07 Drew Let me find a different definition.

1:24:08 Adam Alright, I'm going to get back with Nina.

1:24:10 Drew Here we go. Any system of principles or beliefs?

1:24:16 Adam Alright, your system of beliefs. Nina.

1:24:20 Caller I knew it only had one E.

1:24:22 Adam Oh, yeah, you were smart. You did. But you thought it had a T.

1:24:25 Caller I was going to tell you. I thought it had a T, but I did know it only had one E.

1:24:28 Adam Alright.

1:24:29 Caller Okay. Alright. Okay, so this is the situation. Are you listening?

1:24:35 Adam Yes, he is.

1:24:37 Caller I cannot get a straight answer from any doctor. I have been taking a significant amount of benzodiazepines and a pretty high amount of hydrocodone Lortac. Yeah, yeah. And I need to know what I could have done to this baby already and if I should have this baby. Because I have two beautiful children. I've always been a total normie. I've never done any drugs in my life.

1:25:00 Drew Well, you're an addict now. You're an addict now.

1:25:02 Caller Well, I hate to say it, but I mean, if it wasn't my fault, I got into a bad car accident and got thrown off.

1:25:08 Drew I rarely meet people who intentionally become addicted. That's an unusual thing.

1:25:12 Caller I know. I know. Anyway.

1:25:15 Drew So what about it? You're an addict now. Benzels are not a great idea for kids, but they aren't specifically associated with birth defects. Opiates don't hurt anything.

1:25:24 Caller Well, what the doctor wants to do is he wants to put me on methadone for the duration of my pregnancy.

1:25:29 Drew That is correct.

1:25:30 Caller That is correct. But then I'll have a whole other drug addiction and then I'll be taking a drug when I have a newborn.

1:25:35 Drew Are you ready to listen? That is the one absolute indication for methadone is a pregnancy in an opiate addict situation. If you're opiate addicted and you're pregnant, it's an absolute indication to get on methadone. The reason is the following. You stay on the Vicodin, you're going to have a stillbirth or a spontaneous abortion. Right, that's the best thing. Yeah, so you got to get on the methadone. And either way, you're going to be on drugs the whole pregnancy because you can't detox. There's no way.

1:26:06 Adam Why not?

1:26:06 Drew It's way too dangerous and you won't do it.

1:26:09 Caller I tried to cold turkey myself and I have never been through anything in my entire life.

1:26:14 Drew You won't do it. You won't do it. You can't do it. So you've got to get on the methadone. You've got to get on the methadone. No one will treat you.

1:26:21 Adam I'm putting her on cold because she can't shit her puss.

1:26:23 Drew Because it's dangerous for the child and the child cannot be put in harm's way. You need to take six months of methadone and then detox from the methadone after your pregnancy. The child is going to be born addicted no matter what. She's going to stay on her opiate no matter what. She's not going to detox. So the methadone is the only safe one. And the child, the addiction to methadone is no big deal for a child. They actually use anti-diarrheal medications. The child is over it in about five days.

1:26:48 Adam Five days?

1:26:49 Drew And being methadone addicted.

1:26:50 Adam My mom would have got on some of that stuff.

1:26:52 Drew But being methadone addicted at birth does not put the child at any risk of any added problems including addiction.

1:26:58 Adam Really? And he doesn't come out wearing like a fish tank top or anything?

1:27:05 Drew She says she can't get a straight answer and yet she was told exactly the same thing. Straight and clearly. Every doctor she's talked to. Whereas they're not a straight answer. The answer she doesn't want to hear is the problem. Yeah.

1:27:17 Adam Well it's interesting. I still have her on hold. I'm still labeling her a genius because she thought I was smart. But here's the thing. You can't detox while you're pregnant because it's too traumatic to the body and the potential child.

1:27:33 Drew It will kill the child. It's against the law.

1:27:35 Adam It will kill the child. Why will it kill the child? Because of the difficulty on the body that goes through the detox?

1:27:42 Drew And there's no compelling reason for the mother to detox. It's not like you're putting the mother's health ahead of the child. The mother doesn't need to detox.

1:27:49 Adam Just get on a replacement drug until She doesn't need to detox but she needs to stop doing the drugs she's doing.

1:27:54 Drew Once she's done being pregnant.

1:27:56 Adam No, she needs to stop the drugs she's doing.

1:27:58 Drew Oh yes, she needs to switch over.

1:27:59 Adam She needs to switch over. Now why does she need to switch over?

1:28:02 Drew Because these drugs are associated with damage to the child. Basically spontaneous abortions.

1:28:08 Adam So no brain damage, just actual...

1:28:10 Drew Just the termination, pregnancy, yeah, just dying uterus.

1:28:13 Adam Which drugs?

1:28:13 Drew The Lortab? The opiates and even the benzos possibly.

1:28:17 Adam What are the benzos that she's taking?

1:28:19 Drew The valium-like drugs. Probably she's on Xanax.

1:28:23 Adam So those... So the benzos aren't as bad for the... Nina.

1:28:29 Caller Hello? I totally heard what you said, and I totally agree with you. But I've been told that the benzos are worse on the baby. And I did try to detox myself for the first six days. I didn't sleep, I didn't eat, I was throwing up the entire time. So I'm wondering if that could have done damage, that those six days could have done damage to the baby.

1:28:47 Drew Not if the heartbeat is still there.

1:28:49 Adam Well, look at it this way. It just went from an IV leak to like a state school.

1:28:55 Caller No, I don't want that. I have beautiful children and I have... I just worry about this so much.

1:29:01 Adam I know.

1:29:02 Caller I mean, I've never been for abortion, but I wouldn't put it... It's not out of the question.

1:29:06 Adam I know, but look...

1:29:07 Drew It will be in seven days.

1:29:09 Adam You're high...

1:29:10 Drew Wait, right?

1:29:11 Caller Seven days will be out of the question.

1:29:12 Adam You're talking like an auctioneer. It sounds like you spoke to a doctor that knew something. Why don't you go ahead and listen to him?

1:29:20 Drew Yeah. Exactly.

1:29:24 Adam Well, look, that's the position you put yourself in.

1:29:27 Drew Listen, the addiction will not affect the child iversely at all.

1:29:31 Adam Yeah.

1:29:31 Drew At all. It really does. It's a little bit of a thing that child goes through.

1:29:34 Adam What's wrong with the kid coming out with a little street cred?

1:29:37 Drew No, it's not a big deal.

1:29:38 Adam Yeah. All right. We'll take a quick break. Drew, guess how many terrific scents X, deodorant, body spray comes in? No, it's more. No more. No, seven. Anyway, seven's enough, right? I'm Adam, that's my good partner, Dr. Drew. Let's do a quick check of the weather and traffic out here in the Southland. Riverside coming in 77 degrees, El Cajon 77, New Hall Saga 77 degrees, Rancho Santa Margarita 77 degrees, Carson 77, Fulton, I'll drop trial, 77 degrees, Banning 77 degrees, I'll do it, don't stop me, I'll tell you, I'll do it. Bacoima 77 degrees, Westminster 77 degrees, Chula Vista 77 degrees, Encino, I'll drop trial, 77 degrees, Stanton 77 degrees, Recita 77 degrees, Cheviot Hills, I'm wild, I'm crazy, I'll drop my pants, I can tell you, I can tell you that I have to kill you. Cheviot Hills 77 degrees, Hawaiian Gardens 77 degrees, Ikaipa 77, Redland 77, Upland 77, San Juan 77, I'll drop trial, El Segundo 77 degrees, Linwood 77, Norco, DeVore, Glendora, Azusa, all checking in at 77 degrees, four or five, slow and go, traffic in lanes.

1:31:21 Drew Friday light.

1:31:22 Adam Let's really break down that traffic in lanes one.

1:31:27 Drew Yeah.

1:31:27 Adam What exactly does that F-ing mean?

1:31:30 Drew Well, it's cars in the freeway lanes, the highway lanes, they have cars in them.

1:31:35 Adam Traffic in lanes, look out for debris in the other three lanes, slow and go on the 101.

1:31:40 Drew Caltrans got the cones out.

1:31:41 Adam Look out for brake lights. Look out for brake lights. Well, thank Christ, they're telling us about this brake light.

1:31:50 Drew Yeah, because if we didn't look out for them, God knows what could happen.

1:31:54 Adam Now, the brake light, Drew, that's the round part that the smoke comes out of in the back of the car or the exhaust?

1:32:00 Drew I'm not sure. They've never explained what that... You're right. They need to explain.

1:32:04 Adam I'm picturing the back of a car.

1:32:06 Caller Why?

1:32:07 Adam There's the shiny metal thing.

1:32:10 Drew Why the back? They didn't say look out. They said look out for brake lights.

1:32:14 Caller They can't see on the side.

1:32:14 Drew They could be on the side of the car. Yes, it's the side.

1:32:18 Adam The side ones?

1:32:19 Drew Oh, yeah.

1:32:19 Adam We're going to have to look into this. Chris, do you know what brake lights are? Have you ever had to look out for them?

1:32:25 Drew I know what it is. It's when you pull the emergency brake in your car, it says brake.

1:32:29 Caller A light goes on, it says brake.

1:32:30 Adam No, that's on the dash.

1:32:31 Caller Yeah, so you look out for your brake light.

1:32:34 Adam I think they're talking about other cars.

1:32:35 Drew Why?

1:32:36 Adam I don't know.

1:32:36 Drew What are you talking about?

1:32:37 Adam Here's my point.

1:32:38 Drew Your brake light is in the dash.

1:32:39 Adam When I see another car in front of me slow down, I speed up. That's what I had done that.

1:32:46 Drew So?

1:32:47 Adam Well, I'd ruined 328 automobiles and had my license suspended. And then I started listening to the radio and they started telling me to look out for brake lights.

1:32:57 Drew Oh, and that stopped that habit?

1:32:58 Adam I realized, yeah, I had to slow down.

1:33:00 Drew That's all it took?

1:33:02 Adam It was enough. Yeah.

1:33:04 Drew How did you know where to look for the brake? I look in the dashboard.

1:33:08 Adam No, no, no. You got to look ahead at the car ahead of you. You know when it says traffic in lanes and slow and go? That means there's other cars and also you might not get to the airport as fast. I've learned that too. What? Yeah, it happens. And you know, and let me tell you something else I've learned from listening to radio, listening to a lot of news. Couple things. First off, sometimes the temperature that they give, the number, it's bigger in the daytime and then it goes down to a lower one like at nighttime. Like it'd be like-

1:33:37 Drew Well, that's confusing.

1:33:38 Adam Well, I know it sounds confusing at first, but it'd be like daytime highs, you know, like the high, like it would be like the higher number.

1:33:46 Drew No, daytime high could be just the high during the daytime. Doesn't have to be a higher during the daytime.

1:33:51 Adam You know that fiery orb that fills the sky during the daytime?

1:33:56 Drew The god Ra?

1:33:57 Adam No, no, no, no. It's called the-

1:34:00 Drew Stars?

1:34:00 Adam Sun.

1:34:01 Drew Sun. Sun.

1:34:02 Adam That heats. So during the day, so it'll be like, well, it's like 96 and then at night, it's like 68.

1:34:09 Drew Well, there's still an orb in the sky at night.

1:34:12 Adam That's another thing. That's the lunis, the pre-fuse, I think. I don't know if that one's called, but that's like a cooler.

1:34:23 Drew I see.

1:34:23 Adam Okay, so it's good. Oh, it's getting late. Another thing I learned, trouble sometimes in the Middle East. There'll be trouble. I don't know. All right, so anyway, that's the wonder of radio, everybody.

1:34:39 Drew Don't drop track.

1:34:40 Adam I will drop track.

1:34:41 Drew Oh, you will, Chris, you will.

1:34:42 Adam After this.

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1:35:30 Adam Hey, everybody. Well, that's the show. I want to give some thanks where thanks are due. First off, Engineer Dave for filling in so well for Engineer Anderson.

1:35:40 Drew Lights out, Tony.

1:35:41 Adam Who last time I spoke to was like, he was a mess. He needed a time out.

1:35:51 Drew We got one.

1:35:52 Adam If this show had any dignity, we would have fired him years ago. Anyway, thank you, Engineer Anderson, Engineer Dave. I want to thank Engineer Chris, who's quickly becoming the star of the show.

1:36:02 Caller Quickly.

1:36:04 Adam But I can make it all go away just as fast, Chris. Don't ever forget that.

1:36:08 Drew Snap your fingers.

1:36:09 Caller Pow.

1:36:09 Adam Give me a little warm up on that coffee with your buddy. I want to thank Junior, Junior, Junior. I've deducted some of the Juniors from Junior Producer Lauren, because she's doing a fantabulous job, and of course, Senior Producer Ann, and until next time, this Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.

1:36:43 Caller The producer for Loveline is Aningold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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