Episode 1000632754234

0:54 Voiceover Loveline may contain sexually oriented content.

1:00 Love Line with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

1:04 Adam I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Dictionary Medicine Specialist, Oza Motley. Send our studio tonight, Will Dogg and Uli, both here. We will, I should say, now it's Uli, right?

1:21 Ozomatli Uli, yeah. That's short for Ulysses.

1:25 Adam Is it? Ah. Ah. But it's nice. But it goes from, it's Ulysses, but then it goes to Uli.

1:32 Ozomatli Yeah, that's just because it's usually very hard for people to pronounce anyway. All right.

1:36 Adam So do you want to Uli or do you want Uli?

1:38 Ozomatli Especially in this country.

1:39 Ozomatli Especially.

1:40 Adam I like that. I swore that Ozomatli was on the show before. It turns out they weren't. And I could have had you guys mixed up with the Jaguars.

1:51 Ozomatli I think we're just stuck in your dreams.

1:52 Ozomatli Just any old Mexican wants in.

1:54 Adam Yeah, once every 20 years we bring a Mexican band in. You know, it's EEOC. It's up our ass. We've got to get a Latin band in here.

2:02 Ozomatli Now we're in.

2:03 Adam This is us.

2:03 Yeah.

2:04 Ozomatli But we represent Los Angeles. I like those other guys.

2:07 Adam That's right.

2:08 Yeah.

2:08 Adam I don't have to hear any of that crap about how they sell out soccer stadiums in Rio de Janeiro on stage.

2:14 Ozomatli I want the Mexican Rolling Stones, bro.

2:16 Ozomatli Yeah, man.

2:16 Adam Yeah, I've been seeing. Well, first off, and I don't know how I don't know if Ozomatli is just a big Los Angeles band. And I don't know if that works anymore that way or how it works. Like I remember, like I grew up in Los Angeles. And then when my friends would come out, you know, later on in life, I'd say, oh, yeah, like you guys into acts or some band like that. And they'd say, oh, I never heard. Oh, how about O'ngo Boingo? I was like, no, we didn't really hear any O'ngo Boingo or acts or bands like this. I'd be like, oh, those were just Los Angeles bands. I didn't know. Right. I mean, O'ngo Boingo did a few movie soundtracks and made it out kind of thing. But I didn't know there were certain bands that did kind of be regional or be huge locally. And I'm assuming there's less of that now than there than there was in the past.

2:59 Ozomatli I think every band goes through a little phase of just blowing up locally to the point where I think you've got to start playing outside your cities, you know?

3:08 Adam Right.

3:09 Ozomatli Right.

3:09 Adam Now, who's a good what's good? What's good? Latin country for you guys. I mean, you've got your Texas, your Arizona, your Utah's, your Iowa's.

3:18 Ozomatli Iowa would be banging.

3:19 Ozomatli You know, Alabama is a great Latin touring country, I think.

3:23 Adam Really?

3:24 Ozomatli Yeah.

3:24 Adam Yeah. Really? You're not kidding?

3:27 Ozomatli Southern Alabama.

3:28 Ozomatli Pockets of culture going on.

3:29 Adam Yeah.

3:30 Ozomatli Definitely.

3:31 Adam I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I got to, I got to be, you know, this is going to, it's just, it's, someone's going to get offended before the night is true, but.

3:38 Ozomatli Let's do it.

3:39 Adam I grew up in LA. I grew up in LA.

3:41 Ozomatli Well, actually, NoHo.

3:43 Adam I grew up in NoHo. I grew up in North Carolina.

3:44 Ozomatli Representing, baby.

3:45 Ozomatli We don't call that LA.,

3:47 Adam bro. And I work construction. And all I ever worked with was Mexican dudes my whole life, or Latin dudes. They get angry because if you call the Nicaraguan guys, El Salvadoran guys, none of them like each other.

3:58 Ozomatli Well, why would you do that?

3:59 Adam I don't know.

4:00 Ozomatli Are you called Canadian?

4:01 Adam I mean. That, you know what? I wish, I'm glad you said that because someone should have said it about 20 years ago, but it was just, you know, grab a Mexican and get to work, you know? I always go, they're proud people, a quiet person and people, and they made stuff out of food. Oh, one time a guy made some stuff out of cactus. I didn't know what it was. No goodies is what I.

4:20 Ozomatli You didn't like it?

4:21 Adam I remember I said to him. It was great.

4:23 Ozomatli It's good for you.

4:23 Adam Yeah, of course it's good for you. Dirt's good for you, too. But the whole point is, I said to the guy, I said, well, what the hell kind of chicken is this? And he said, no, it's no chicken, it's cactus. And I said, cactus? Where do you buy cactus? Who sells cactus? And he pointed at the hill. Right. He pointed at the, we were in Burbank, and he pointed at the dust covered, soot covered, small covered mountain behind the runway, runway two at Burbank Airport. And he said, that's where we get the cactus.

4:53 Ozomatli At least it wasn't from the gardens, right?

4:55 Adam I was like, are you kidding me? I'm just eating crap. You harvest it from the mountain?

4:59 All right.

5:01 Adam But the point, all right. But they're, they're, they're proud.

5:03 Ozomatli So you don't like nopales? I love nopales.

5:06 Adam All I've ever worked with, that's all I worked with. That's all, that's all I've ever worked with. So as you work construction, you know, people don't know this, who don't live in Los Angeles. There's about three white guys and there's no black dudes. And then it's all just Latin dudes. It's all, all of them. And that's all who you work with. So you spend all day, every day with 20 Latin dudes. But then when I travel around and then there's, there's the Latin jobs out here. You got your, you got your gardeners, you got your maids, you got all that stuff where you only see exclusively, that's it. And then when you travel, it's weird. Like we go to West Virginia and we get some 19 year old blonde chick chewing gum. She wants to clean our room. And we're like, huh, what are you doing in it? What are you prostitute? Who sent you over here? It's like, I can't accept different cultures and different races doing different jobs. It's same with the gas station.

5:53 Ozomatli Oh, you got to travel more, my friend.

5:55 Drew We got the Middle East.

5:57 Adam Come on, man.

5:57 Drew It starts with Adam, what used to be before they became federal employees, but it started with you with the airport security personnel.

6:03 Ozomatli Oh yeah.

6:04 Adam Like, like, okay. Here's what, yes.

6:06 Ozomatli Here's like, like, okay, TSA, let's bash them.

6:10 Adam LAX only hires black dudes. There's only black people work security at LAX.

6:16 Ozomatli That's just to intimidate people like you, though.

6:19 Adam I have no idea. When we went to Chicago, it was Eastern, Eastern India. And I was thinking, I was yelling at Drew, it's like, when you're going to open airport, you have to declare what nationalities, security is going to be or can't you just have one of everything?

6:31 Ozomatli Well, why is there only white people on the radio?

6:34 Adam Yeah, that's it. Look at engineer Chris, he's a half-breed, I don't know what he is, but he's something.

6:41 Ozomatli And he's burning inside, look at the bitterness.

6:44 Adam Say something, say something.

6:45 Ozomatli What's up?

6:46 Ozomatli I'm in the air.

6:46 Adam Say something in Mexican or something, come on.

6:48 Ozomatli Oh, I don't know.

6:49 Adam Okay, shut the mic down. The point is, is he's representing. That's cool.

6:53 Ozomatli Yeah, but you don't even let him talk.

6:55 Adam No, he tries sometimes. We let him talk, we're making fun of him living at home and going to junior college and stuff like that. We picked him up down at the Home Depot. You got to unionize, daddy.

7:10 Ozomatli That's right.

7:11 Ozomatli Take over this whole joint.

7:13 Adam All right. So we're going to hear some Ozomatli songs. I think we're going to hear one in early. I think we're going to hear one early in the first break. And the CD is called The Street Signs, by the way. And it came out June 22nd. And CCW, number two on the Billboard Latin chart.

7:35 Ozomatli And only bought by construction workers, by the way.

7:37 Ozomatli That's right.

7:38 Ozomatli And maids and.

7:39 Ozomatli Loving life. Yeah.

7:40 Adam No, I know. I knew I was going to get myself in trouble. I knew I was going to get myself in trouble.

7:44 Ozomatli I'm down for it. Completely.

7:46 Adam Listen, I'm a friend of. I got eight Latin brothers showing up at my house tomorrow.

7:51 Drew Don't you worry. There's an independent film now, at least I think it's around here, but what Los Angeles, Southern California would be like without Illegal Aliens.

8:00 Ozomatli I like that film.

8:01 Ozomatli I saw the film. I mean, I wouldn't I wouldn't want to go out publicly and say that. Really?

8:05 Drew Was it interesting, though, at least?

8:07 Ozomatli It was definitely interesting. I think it's good for people maybe that don't have a lot of experience with like Adam here. He should definitely see it, because it definitely says not all Latinos are Mexican in the movie it talks about.

8:22 Adam But I got to straighten that out.

8:24 Ozomatli You're right. Yeah. But I think everyone should definitely go see it and support it.

8:29 Adam Well, I'll tell you one thing, if we didn't have any out here, an avocado would be $26. That's true. I do know that. That's about all I know. And it'd be tough, because then we'd have to get the blacks to start doing the stuff. And that's a tall order. I don't know what Whitey would do. We'd have to have a real nice sit down with the blacks and really kiss some ass.

8:47 Ozomatli Reparation time, baby. That's what I say.

8:49 Adam You guys owe us. We got no Mexicans. We got some lawns. We got some things that need cleaning. Oh, what are we going to do? Come on, buddy. We can't. We strike.

8:57 Ozomatli Who's going to take care of your kids?

8:58 Adam Who's going to take care of the kids?

8:59 Ozomatli Really?

8:59 Adam Who's going to push the strollers?

9:01 Ozomatli Who's going to go through your shelves?

9:02 Adam Yeah.

9:03 Ozomatli Who's going to grab your jewelry?

9:05 Adam Who's going to take care of business? Because that's true. Like you drive around the hills, you see the Mexican maid, she's pushing a stroller around with the kids. Once in a while, she's whacking the kid about a little. That's a little cultural thing I saw one time. It works, supposedly. It works. Yeah, no, the kids turn out fine. It's no problem. Little leading disorder. Drew, do you have?

9:24 Ozomatli This guy hasn't said a thing yet.

9:26 Drew I don't know where he's going though.

9:28 Adam Do you have a maid? What's your maid?

9:30 Drew Diabolical.

9:31 Adam Do you have a maid? I don't have a maid. Do you have a person that comes in and does with the kids and that kind of stuff?

9:39 Drew We have. We have someone who works at the office that comes to help us.

9:42 Adam Where is she from? Finland or Sweden?

9:44 Drew El Salvador.

9:45 Adam Shocking.

9:47 Drew But the maid, but she doesn't really, that's not really that kind of job.

9:50 Adam El Salvador.

9:51 Drew There you go.

9:52 Adam Painter and entertainment.

9:53 Drew No.

9:55 Adam That's all good. Here's everyone.

9:56 Ozomatli Everyone needs to make a living.

9:58 Ozomatli And you know what? That's what it comes down to. Everybody needs to make a living, Baddie.

10:01 Adam Yeah. And let me tell you something.

10:03 Ozomatli And everyone needs to do those jobs that you guys don't want to do.

10:05 Adam Let me tell you something about my Latin brothers. Not scared to work. No. Not scared to work. Hard working people. Here's all they need. Oh, there's a little help, just a little constructive criticism.

10:16 Drew Your friend Ozzy, by the way, I put him on some antibiotics the other day.

10:19 Adam Oswaldo.

10:20 Drew Yeah. Yeah. He had this most horrible infection in his throat I've ever seen.

10:24 Adam Really?

10:25 Drew And he's like, yeah, yeah.

10:26 Adam I was working him too hard.

10:27 Drew Yeah. He throws some wood off his shoulder. I go, would you look at this? I'm like, oh my God. He's like, yeah, yeah, I get this all the time.

10:32 Adam When did you see Ozzy? You coming to the house?

10:33 Drew Yeah.

10:35 Adam Listen, you guys want to know.

10:36 Drew He was no pussy. I'm telling you, the guy's like.

10:38 Adam He's a mule. 50 years old, strong as an axe. You want to know if the ace man is keeping it real. See the picture of the man on the telephone? Yes. Yeah.

10:49 Ozomatli He's definitely. Well, not definitely, but. Oh, yeah.

10:52 Adam Let me check it out. Oh, no. You wouldn't.

10:54 Ozomatli Could be a Latino.

10:54 Adam You wouldn't.

10:55 Ozomatli Could be Middle Eastern. You wouldn't.

10:57 Adam You wouldn't understand him if he spoke to you.

10:59 Ozomatli He looks like my uncle.

11:00 Adam He's he's from Nicaragua. Yes. That's us. Waldo Castillo. Castillo. His picture is actually on my phone. That's how close I am with the brown skin man. Absolutely. When working with him for 15 years, he made it onto my phone.

11:18 Drew You went insane. You took his picture.

11:19 Adam My wife took his picture and stuck it on my phone when I wasn't looking. But let me just tell you something. Here's all this is, you know, and again, take this in the spirit in which it's intended for the for my land.

11:29 Drew But I'll go again. I'm not saying anything.

11:31 I'm just saying I'm just saying I've just noticed a lot of declarations to our brown skinned people here in the Southland.

11:37 Adam I'm a huge fan. I love the people that got. Look at the guy.

11:41 Drew Look, you know, I don't think he gets to talk to a lot as very as frequently now. He's sort of excited.

11:45 Ozomatli You know, exactly. He had such an experience in construction with such a good time.

11:51 Drew Yeah. Now they were both the both the thumb of the man at that point.

11:54 Ozomatli But yeah, exactly.

11:55 Adam I was no different.

11:56 Drew I know you were now you were a little now everybody.

11:59 Adam Now I'm over Kimmel stuck with the Jews having to write jokes for the man. It's totally different thing. Oh yes. And they complain. Let me tell you something. The bright here. Let me let me tell you something. Let me tell you the difference. No, he doesn't use any of mine. Here's the difference between the Jew and the brown skinned man. Brown skinned guy, you tell him, look, hey, listen, Jose, a big palette of cinder blocks just got dropped off. It's 190 degrees around. Take that all by mule it up to the second floor up there and start. We're putting it building, retaining wall. Guy just looks at it and says, fine.

12:35 Drew And he starts calling for sign.

12:36 Adam Hey, Gordo. You come in. Yeah, Gordo. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. You tell the Jew, hey, listen, we need you to punch up this joke. Super Dave's coming on the show, you're getting five grand and we go, oh, for Christ's sake. Guy's like a stock pig, never stops complaining. Put upon. Yeah, that's the Jewish man. Yeah, the brown skinned man. That's her brother. He's keeping it real. And see, you see how I'm coming back around?

12:56 Ozomatli He's keeping it real with a double 0-4.

12:58 Ozomatli So there's a little self-hatred in there as well, I could see.

13:00 Adam I'm not Jewish. I'm Italian. I just become an honorary Jew because, you know, I started writing jokes.

13:06 Ozomatli You kick it with them, so it's tough.

13:07 Adam I kick it with the Jews, yeah. They're very put upon people.

13:10 Drew So are there any ethnicities you haven't offended tonight that you left anybody out?

13:14 Adam Five grand a week.

13:15 Ozomatli Oh, I don't know.

13:15 Adam Five grand a week for writing Jessica Simpson's stupid jokes, put upon, but the other guy's getting 500 weeks moving the schlep in the center block, not a word out of him. Happy to have a gig. That's capitalism. Eatin off the truck and happy to have it. That's the brown skinned man. That's my brother. That's why there are pictures on my phone. That's why they're representing. That's why there are pictures on the phone.

13:35 Drew All right. That's why they call him Hefe.

13:36 Adam Yeah.

13:37 Ozomatli They do? They do. Hefe? He probably calls him some other stuff.

13:42 Adam He calls me something called cabacho, which I hear is a term of the Indian.

13:46 Ozomatli Cabacho.

13:47 Adam Cabacho.

13:50 Ozomatli Cabacho. Cabacho is just a loving term for a whitey. White guy.

13:54 Adam Yeah. You got Hefe.

13:56 Ozomatli It's all good. That one word.

14:00 Drew Cabacho for now.

14:02 Adam Let's hear something.

14:04 Drew We should hear.

14:06 Adam Well, one call.

14:07 Drew No call.

14:07 Adam One call.

14:08 Drew Here we go.

14:08 Adam One call and then we hear a song from Ozomatli? Yeah.

14:11 Ozomatli How many songs are we going to get played tonight? Only two.

14:14 Adam That's a lot of songs.

14:15 Ozomatli In two hours.

14:16 Drew Would you say about them not complaining?

14:17 Adam Yeah. That's a lot.

14:20 Ozomatli See, we got the two force thing going on. Mexican Jews, baby.

14:25 Adam Hard working and complaining.

14:26 Hard working and complaining.

14:27 Drew That's us all day.

14:27 Ozomatli You keep working over there, Oli.

14:29 Adam Yay, baby.

14:30 Drew Jeff 20.

14:31 Adam What's up, buddy?

14:32 Drew Jeff?

14:33 Adam Good.

14:34 Okay. Well, problem is I have a problem with the smell of my penis.

14:42 Drew You have a problem with it?

14:44 Yes. Well, also so does my girlfriend, of course.

14:49 Drew She has a problem with it.

14:51 Yeah. And I don't know. Of course, you guys can imagine the problems that would be with a girlfriend. I mean, it kind of, you know, gets me, I'd say gets me down. But I don't know how else to put it. Yeah.

15:07 Adam It smells like number two? Has she been cheating on her?

15:13 Sometimes when she's arguing, you know what I mean? Or whatever you call it, she would say that it smells like urine or something.

15:24 Drew He opened his mouth.

15:26 Adam Oh, yeah. Well, by the way, if you do the urine math, not such an outlandish claim.

15:35 Drew Right.

15:36 Adam The smell of urine. Yeah, it's like saying, the tap smells of beer. Yeah, that's where the beer comes out.

15:44 Ozomatli You should have picked a different scent.

15:45 Drew When people complain about the dork scent, it's sort of that funky musty stuff.

15:50 Adam Yeah, it's the uncircumcised guys with the cheese.

15:53 Drew And bacterial smells, which are putrefying.

15:55 Adam Yeah, that smells...

15:56 Drew It can't be like number two.

15:58 Adam It smells like urine.

15:58 Drew No, it doesn't smell like urine.

15:59 Adam No, and then number two...

16:01 Drew Just go ahead and evacuate your bladder fully before your girlfriend visits.

16:04 Adam Yeah, and do that weird shiver thing I do when I'm at the urinal.

16:06 Drew You only do that when I'm behind you.

16:08 Adam I know, because I'm scared. I'm scared you're coming at me.

16:11 Drew I notice it...

16:13 Adam Hold on a second. Jeff?

16:15 Yes?

16:16 Adam Yeah, we don't believe you.

16:17 No, well, no, that's just what she calls it. She says it smells like dork color. Of course it smells like it. I think it smells like... You know what I mean? We've got a lot of fish stores around here. All right, all right.

16:32 That's totally bogus, Jeff.

16:34 Adam All right. Listen, are you uncircumcised?

16:37 I'm not circumcised.

16:39 Adam Correct. You can just say yes.

16:42 Drew No, no, I'm uncircumcised.

16:43 Adam Okay, look. Just look. Get out of the shower. Clean yourself real good down there.

16:46 Drew Dry, dry.

16:47 Adam Hit it with a blow dryer. You ever heard of a sink? Hit it with a blow dryer. That's right. Sink a little soap, pull it back, and then hit it with a blow dryer.

16:54 Drew We need to take one more. Come on, we can't go out like that.

16:56 Adam Yeah, Drew, how many times have I said talk to you?

16:58 Drew No, man. I know.

16:59 Ozomatli We can't go out like that. Wet ones are good. A bogus penis smell. We can't go out like that.

17:04 Adam Let's talk to Rose. Rose, you're 20. What's up? I've been having... All right, hold on. She got molested, Drew. That's boring. That's a bummer. We're trying to go into an Ozomatli song.

17:20 Drew Rest of dudes.

17:21 Adam Only attracted to druggies. Well, let me talk to Sam over here. Sam, he's 17. He's going to turn 18.

17:26 Drew I said no guys.

17:26 Adam He's going... He's not a guy. He's a boy.

17:30 I'm going to be like Sam and I'm going to be describing the last caller.

17:32 Adam Sam. Sam, did you shut up and listen? You're 17.

17:37 Caller I'm 17, my friend.

17:39 Adam You're going to turn 18. You're going to Strip Club.

17:42 Caller Yes.

17:43 I'm sitting here with my friend.

17:44 Drew Sam is interested in talking, not interested in listening.

17:47 Adam You want to go to Strip Club? You want some tips?

17:49 Caller Yeah, man. Now, I got to lay it out for you, though. You see, I'm very much a virgin.

17:57 And I'm a passionate man like Drew.

18:01 Caller And I don't know.

18:03 I don't hear a virgin.

18:04 Caller I'd like some tips for Strip Club.

18:09 Adam Well, look, I'll just give some Strip Club tips and then we'll hear an Ozomatli, because I don't believe Sam either again. OK, here's the key. Here's the key. Don't sit right next to the stage. Sit a couple of chairs back from the stage. You have to keep feeding the money onto the stage. Everyone knows you're cheap, but so be it. It's like a loophole in the tax law. You know, whatever. You beat the government. Fine. Sit about two, three chairs back. Actually even get a better view sometimes from the stage and you have to keep throwing dollars on it.

18:39 Drew I think you have to keep throwing dollars on other parts of the building.

18:43 Adam OK, that's the other thing. Don't end up in like the champagne room or something like that. You're way over your head. You'll get it. They'll slap you the bill at the end and it will be like $2,700. It will be like 452 Jaeger shots. Are you kidding me? You end up buying champagne for everybody. It's a disaster. Stay away from the rooms. You go, if someone, if the chick says like, hey, you want to go upstairs? You want to have, here's basically what you get to do in the room. You get to do the same thing in the room that you get to do in the club. It's just you don't have that fat businessman staring at you while you're doing it. But you got to pay a couple of grand for that and it ain't worth it. But also, fellas who are listening, little etiquette. When a guy's getting a lap dance, he's getting a lap dance. It's not your lap dance, too. It's not worse than a guy sticking his nose into your lap dance. He's like, nose around, it's like a flashlight. It's like he's a home inspector looking for termite damage or something in her crack. It's like, listen, Jack, I'm trying to get a boner over here. What are you doing? Nothing worse, too, than when you're packed in and you're actually making arm contact with a guy when you're getting a lap dance.

19:45 Drew What do you pay for a lap dance?

19:47 Adam What do I pay?

19:48 Drew What does one pay? Not a millionaire celebrity?

19:51 Adam One pays $20 for a lap dance. And here's my theory. I think the ATM machine made everything $20. I think it could have been $15. It could have been $10. It could have been $10. But since it's $20, it's like, hey, what's the tip? Do you give the guy, when you get the ride to the airport from the town car, it's a $20. What do you give the stripper? $20. Everything is $20. Now, it's just, oh, it's $20. Pretty soon, candy bar's gonna be $20, because that's what comes out of the ATM. And we can't be messing with that. If they spat out tens, we could be getting lap dances for $10. I'm sure of it. And all the tips or the rides and everything will all be $10. Everything is $20, because the ATM, it's a stripper ATM banking conspiracy. Laugh it up.

20:38 Ozomatli How about wearing a sweats? Yeah, it's good. Clothing, right? You got to go down for clothing, right?

20:43 Adam Go low friction. Yeah.

20:46 Drew Also a proper coveralls, as it were.

20:48 Ozomatli You don't.

20:49 Adam Well, here's the thing.

20:50 Ozomatli You know, it's like $5, get some KY and jerk it yourself. It's a lot cheaper and in the end, it's a lot better.

20:56 Adam Yeah, I know. But listen. Come on.

21:00 Ozomatli It's a waste of money.

21:01 Adam But why ever leave the house, then, you know, you know what I'm saying? Make that argument for everything.

21:05 Drew That's basically what he's saying. Stay at home.

21:08 Adam I know. But once in a while, here's the whole thing. Once in a while, you got to reload the memory bank, you know what I mean? You got to get out. You got to get a little stimulation. You got to get a little grind going. You got to see a few things. All right. So here's the beats. Here's the beats. Sit back. Couple of chairs from the stage. Don't worry about it, but don't buy drinks for the girls because it's expensive. Like a chick will sit down and then the cocktail waitress will come by and she'll like, would you like a little mini bottle of champagne? It'll be $26.50 for a bottle the size of an Old Spice bottle of crappy champagne that you bought her. She's not even going to drink it. She's not even interested. It's just they want the kickbacks at the bar. So don't buy her anything. You buy yourself and your buddies drink. Go ahead and give the Ethiopian guy a couple of bucks in the basket at the bathroom, though, when he hands you the towel. There's nothing wrong with that. That guy needs your bread. Give him a couple bucks when he gives you a little shadow of horse and a paper towel as you're walking out.

22:02 Ozomatli Yeah, I think it just comes down to when you walk into a strip club, just realize that you're a walking dollar bill for everybody in that place. Yeah. That's all it comes down to, really.

22:10 Adam Don't use the ATM at the strip club because they charge you like eight bucks. It's ridiculous. Is that right? Yeah, it's more service, more expensive. Yeah, than a casino. And the thing, the whole thing is, is you go out in the street, it costs you a buck, buck 50, whatever. The strip club is eight bucks, the strip club, they should be paying you to use the casino. That's just more 20s that is just going to be filtered right back into their system. You know, I mean, they should be praying that you go to the ATM. Other than that, stay away from like big rodeo style belt buckles and stuff like that. You can watch Chafing and Pain. I know a guy got tetanus once. You know, button down shirt not as good either. So it's more kind of stuff to grab on to. You can buy wear a T-shirt, wear some sweatpants, and you'd be in good shape. You'd be in good shape. And, you know, if you're an ooser, you know, shove some paper towels or something down there or something. I know guys who will finish in the strip club, which I find remarkable. How sensitive. Yeah, very sensitive. Ozomatli's here tonight. We were going to hear a song and then Drew start going off about strip clubs and Mexicans.

23:13 Ozomatli We better still hear a song.

23:14 Adam Oh, no, we are. No, we are. We are.

23:18 Ozomatli This is our jam right here, kid. Bush is even interested in using it for his election.

23:24 Adam We got the... All right, stop entertaining yourselves over there. We have to take care of some business. We're going to come back. We're going to hear it right when we come back. We're going to hear some Ozomatli. Yes? All that? All good. After this. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. That's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Ozomatli here tonight, Street Signs. Name of the CD, Will Dogg and Yulia in tonight.

24:18 Ozomatli Thank you very much for having us.

24:20 Adam Definitely.

24:21 Ozomatli We're having the first time.

24:22 Adam I'm glad you had a good time.

24:23 Ozomatli No, seriously, I'm loving it.

24:24 Adam Good, good.

24:25 Ozomatli I love it. I love it that it's so raw, baby. It's just so raw. It's chafing me.

24:30 Adam It was touch and go during the first break, but we had a roach coach discussion during the break.

24:35 Ozomatli And I think we bonded really under the notion of chorizo burritos, breakfast burritos. That's right. We bonded in that.

24:41 Adam I really endeared myself to the band.

24:43 Drew We got together. Good job, Adam.

24:45 Adam Thank you, man. All right, Drew, you never eaten off a lunch truck?

24:48 Drew No, I haven't.

24:49 Adam Come on. Oh, the hospital lunch truck. All the way through high school. Through high school. Well, hold on a second, by the way. Eating off a lunch truck in high school is a good thing. It's when you do it at work is when it turns bad. It's a fun, novel thing in high school.

25:04 Drew By the way, it was in the 70s, too, when the lunch truck didn't have a grill or anything. It was just to sort of.

25:08 Adam Why did you have a lunch truck? Well, he didn't go to the crappy school.

25:14 Ozomatli Yeah, you weren't on the county lunch program, I guess.

25:16 Adam No, he went.

25:17 Ozomatli Family gave you 10 bucks a day.

25:19 Adam No, he went to a private school in Pasadena, which was called. I'll tell you. It's the Lord Fontleroy School for albino hemophiliacs. It was a crazy, it was a prep school.

25:37 Ozomatli In Pasadena, though? Really?

25:39 Adam Everybody went to that high. What percentage of your graduating class didn't go to college?

25:45 Drew Zero.

25:46 Adam Wow. Everybody.

25:47 Ozomatli Really? I went to 13th grade, PCC.

25:50 Adam Oh yeah.

25:52 Ozomatli Yeah.

25:53 Adam LA Valley College, yeah.

25:55 Ozomatli I went there in my 30s, I think.

25:58 Adam It's not really 13th grade, by the way, it's 12 and a half.

26:02 Ozomatli You can smoke cigarettes.

26:03 Adam Yeah. All right, let's hear, we're gonna hear some from Ozomatli. Let's do. Let's do, let's do. You cute up there, Chris? What's happening, my brother? We talk, right? We're cool. All right, man. All right, don't talk to them. This one is called Saturday Night. Street Sign, the name of the new CD. That's right. Tomorrow night, everybody. All right. Good stuff, by the way. Nice horns, love the horns.

30:37 Ozomatli Right on, thank you.

30:38 Adam Got a little bit of a 70s street vibe to it. You know what I mean? That's the kind of music that's playing when you're getting information from a huggy bear.

30:46 Ozomatli That's right, war and stuff like that.

30:48 Adam Yeah, yeah, yeah. War must have. War was a great band. I think they would just get really high and jam for hours on end and just record. Every song they have is just a crazy jam. All right, here we go. Yeah. What do you want to do, Drew?

31:02 Drew Take our third call tonight.

31:03 Adam Third call tonight?

31:04 Drew Yeah.

31:04 Adam Talk about war a little more?

31:05 Drew Sarah, 15.

31:06 Adam Sarah. Sarah?

31:09 Hello.

31:10 Adam You're 15? What's up?

31:13 Caller Well, I'm kind of attracted to these really drugged up guys.

31:20 I don't know.

31:22 Caller Is it just, I don't know if it's just something girls go through or something?

31:27 Adam What do you mean? What drugged up guys?

31:30 Caller Just the guys that I date and the guys that I hang out with.

31:34 Adam What drugs do they do?

31:36 Caller Most of them marijuana.

31:39 Drew She's got a little bit of the sound of that bogus caller. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. That one that.

31:45 Adam Oh, I don't know. Stop worrying about who's bogus. It doesn't matter.

31:49 Drew Remember that one that pulled us into that call on a couple of different.

31:53 Adam I don't remember anything. I go home, I drink hard, I go to sleep.

31:58 Drew Sarah, what is your question?

31:58 Adam I thought Ozomatli was on the show. I don't know anything.

32:02 Drew You just channeled my experience. I'd seen them two weeks before. I didn't remember. But Sarah, what was your question?

32:08 Caller Is it me, or is it just something that girls go through?

32:11 Drew It's you.

32:11 Adam It's you. You're calling from Bakersfield. Everyone smokes weed in Bakersfield. You'd have to go outside of Bakersfield to find a guy that's not a drug addict.

32:19 Caller And I go up to him, and then he turns out to be a pothead.

32:23 Drew All right. Well, the easy line of questioning here is, was your dad an alcoholic or a marijuana addict?

32:31 Caller Not exactly. He drinks.

32:33 Adam He drinks.

32:34 Drew OK. But maybe he has a mild alcoholism, and you're sort of attracted to people that are made, constituted similarly.

32:41 Adam Stay away from the cool kids. You want to stay away from the drugs. You want to stay away from the trouble, the excitement, the good looks. 4-H. Yeah. Just go find some of the nerds. Hang out with them.

32:50 Drew They will love. They will appreciate you.

32:53 Adam Yeah. I mean, look, that's the problem. You want to hang out with the cool guys. You want to hang out with the guys that are in the fast lane. Those are the guys that smoke the weed.

33:01 Ozomatli She can, I'm sure, find someone who's just as cool and just doesn't do it. Whatever.

33:05 Adam Yeah.

33:06 Ozomatli There's got to be. Come on.

33:07 Adam There's some straight edge guys over there. All day. But again, she's calling from Bakersfield. By the way, Pot. I don't even. If you can find a guy who's just smoking pot in Bakersfield and not cooking up meth in his basement, you've found yourself a winner. There you go. Marry him. That's the mayor of the town. He ran on a platform which is only smoke weed. What? Who are we yelling?

33:29 Caller I understand it's not my fault I'm a Bakersfield boy.

33:32 Adam Yeah, that's right. Do you realize the guy was elected mayor of Bakersfield by saying, I only smoke weed and drink a little bit. And once in a while do a bump, you know, do a rail. But don't make my own though. But I don't make my own. I don't make my own vote for me in 2004.

33:48 Ozomatli That's the caliber, the caliber, Rose.

33:51 Yeah.

33:52 Adam You're 20.

33:53 Caller Yes.

33:54 Adam What's happening?

33:56 Well, I've been sexually, I was sexually molested by my two older brothers at a very young age.

34:05 Drew Both of them?

34:06 Adam Perfectly normal, perfectly healthy.

34:09 Drew In Los Angeles. This is Kansas City though. And what has happened to them?

34:15 Well, we got separated after years of this happening and we went to foster homes, group homes, hospitals, the work, you know.

34:24 Drew What happened?

34:25 Adam Before, not after.

34:27 Drew What damaged them to make them believe that molesting their sister was a good thing to do?

34:31 Well, I really don't know because I mean I was so young when it started happening. I'm pretty sure maybe my father, before he left the picture, did something to them or someone did something to them. I don't really know.

34:42 Drew There you go.

34:43 Adam By the way, would you give, I don't have kids, but that's something you'd give them a time out for?

34:49 Drew The brothers? Yeah.

34:50 Yeah.

34:50 Drew Yeah. Yeah.

34:53 Ozomatli How old was it when it happened, though?

34:55 What?

34:55 Ozomatli How old were they? How old were they? And how old were you?

34:59 I don't know how old I was when it first started.

35:01 Drew How old were they?

35:03 They're both a year apart. Well, see, my eldest brother is two years from me. See, I'm 20. He'd be 20.

35:12 Drew So it started when you were like, hold on.

35:14 Ozomatli See, because there's a, yeah.

35:15 Adam Could you ever get one of them was seven, the other was nine? That'd never happen, that's never gonna happen. Is there ever?

35:21 Drew No, what you get is today's Tuesday, Monday, let's say Monday is 2004. He's 20. Carry the three and he's 20.

35:26 Adam He's much younger and he is, the Equinox is coming up. Come on, just tell me, tell me the guy was nine or 15. Rose, how old were they, please?

35:38 Drew Approximately.

35:39 Adam Approximately.

35:40 Caller Probably about seven and eight.

35:44 Drew Okay, so that eight minute timeout. You give a minute timeout for each year.

35:48 Adam So there were a mess and somebody screwed with them.

35:51 Drew That's bad times.

35:52 Adam And then everyone went into foster care, so had to mean that it was like an unmitigated disaster.

35:58 Drew Well, and she went to treatment, too. It sounds like you were in hospitals, right? To Rose?

36:03 Caller Yeah.

36:04 Drew You were in hospitals, you were treated?

36:07 Adam Okay.

36:07 Drew What's your question now?

36:08 Caller Well, my question is, I've had boyfriend, you know, we've had sex, but I've never had oral sex with any of my boyfriends until my most recent one. And so I've never...

36:20 Adam You mean you've never performed it on them?

36:23 Caller No. I had to do that to both my brothers when I was younger, when it happened. And so I couldn't do it. Right.

36:30 Adam So yes, you don't perform it on them.

36:33 Caller And so I didn't perform oral, and I never had a boyfriend perform oral on me until my most recent one. And the first time he did it on me, I freaked out. I curled up into a little ball and I started crying. I didn't want him to touch me.

36:48 Drew So it was trauma. Yeah.

36:49 Caller And my fear is, sorry, hold on. My fear is that I will go through the rest of my life not being able to enjoy that. Like I want to be with this guy because I've been with him for about four months and he understands and he respects me. And I can't let myself go. My body just keeps going back to that and I freak out. I don't know if I'll ever be able to.

37:22 Adam Oh, you will. Well, probably. But, I mean, here's the thing. I mean, first off, you're pretty young. You're 20 years old?

37:28 Drew Yeah.

37:29 Adam So you've got to get a little more therapy under your belt.

37:32 Drew You've got some time to work with him.

37:33 Caller I've been in therapy since I can remember.

37:36 Adam I know. But, you know, when you're a kid and you're in therapy, you just make stuff out of clay and then the re-educator wants to know what that means to you. That's not real therapy. I mean, now you actually have a vocabulary and a brain. You can start talking about this kind of stuff.

37:50 Drew And the fact that you're sort of putting yourself into a vulnerable, intimate encounter with somebody whom you care about is extremely positive. And as soon as you're sort of… you've got to kind of tiptoe into these behaviors. You can't go in wholesale because your body has a… let's call it an implicit memory of what happened. And it re-evokes all the trauma when you put yourself in that position quite actually, quite literally. So you've got to kind of break it in.

38:15 Adam He's with you.

38:16 Drew Customize yourself. Take it in doses that you can tolerate. And make sure you're really listening to yourself and your body. And he's got to be very, very cautious and careful.

38:23 Adam And then listen, don't put this sticker on your forehead that says, damaged goods. I know it sounds like I'm being Pollyanna-ish. But I mean, don't go into the bedroom with the guy looking at yourself as something that's broken. You know what I mean? You have a guy you're in love with.

38:38 Drew The fact that you can have that and that it's a good guy means you can get back.

38:42 Adam I would be a great boyfriend for her, by the way. She's like, listen, sweetie, I'm going to need at least six to eight months before you can go down. You want to take a year? You want to take a year? I'm all right. I'm all right for you to do it now.

38:55 Ozomatli How much does she love this guy, though?

38:57 Adam She loves him.

38:57 Ozomatli You know, then I think she should just be honest with him and open up also, you know, to a certain degree.

39:03 Drew He knows what happened. He knows what happened.

39:04 Ozomatli Oh, if he knows, then...

39:05 Drew But it doesn't matter. The point is somebody like this who has an abusive history will normally go for abusive guys. The fact that you can trust a guy, is open and intimate with him, can find a nice guy is a very positive sign. They just have to ease her into the whole experience slowly.

39:20 Ozomatli Yeah, patience.

39:22 Ozomatli Yeah, he needs to be really patient.

39:23 Ozomatli Patient.

39:24 Ozomatli He can't trip.

39:25 Adam A little love. He'll be alright.

39:26 Drew A little Ozomatli music background.

39:29 Adam Yeah, loosen things up, a couple of wine coolers.

39:31 Ozomatli A little love. That's all we need in this world.

39:34 Adam Let's take ourselves a break. Yeah, hey baby, give it a year. I would be great. We should have get together, me and this one.

39:41 Drew I think you would have been even more enthusiastic than just, oh, that's okay. You would have been like, oh, that's...

39:46 Adam Yeah, you should never do that. Yeah, you might have a heart attack and die if I did that. As a matter of fact, you're right. You don't want to go to that place. It's like a Vietnam vet. We don't want to go back there. It's fine.

39:54 Ozomatli Oh, wow. I see trauma surrounds me.

39:58 Adam We'll take ourselves a little break. I'm Ozomatli here tonight and we'll be right back after this.

40:06 Love Line will be right back, so get your problems ready.

40:24 Adam I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, Ozomatli here tonight. Street Signs, name of the CD.

40:30 Ozomatli It's brand spanking new.

40:32 Adam That's right. It won everybody an LA to buy it.

40:35 Ozomatli And it's goo.

40:36 Adam It's still wet.

40:37 Ozomatli It's wet and it's goo.

40:39 Adam Let's...

40:40 Ozomatli You say.

40:41 Adam Slippery. We've got a question for the band.

40:43 Ozomatli Rock it.

40:44 Adam Daniel?

40:44 Ozomatli Dan-el.

40:46 Adam Dan-el? Dan-el. Dan-el, what's happening?

40:49 Ozomatli Not much, I just wanted to say I love Ozomatli, they're so awesome, they're an awesome band.

40:56 Ozomatli We really appreciate that.

40:58 Ozomatli Yeah, your guys' concert on Friday was great. I really liked it and your new CD rocked.

41:03 Ozomatli Thank you. Was that the Orange County Show?

41:05 Ozomatli Yeah, yeah.

41:07 Ozomatli Did you get a deep fried...

41:08 Ozomatli Wait, you don't even remember where you played Friday night?

41:10 Ozomatli No, I know. That's the only place in the world where you can get a deep fried Twinkie.

41:15 Adam Oh really?

41:15 Ozomatli Deep fried Snickers.

41:16 Ozomatli Snickers, and it's frozen on the inside.

41:19 Ozomatli Ooh.

41:20 Ozomatli It's very good.

41:21 Adam That's the ultimate stoner food if you think about it.

41:24 Ozomatli Working it out.

41:24 Ozomatli Wasn't that a fun show? I had a great time too.

41:26 Ozomatli Yeah, that was awesome. That was really good. I actually had two questions. One is, how are you guys planning on this whole tour that you guys have coming up? I know you go to Australia and you come back and you have all these dates you're playing in California and going to New Orleans and all sorts of places.

41:44 Ozomatli Well, you know, Friday we flew in from Switzerland that day, right?

41:48 Ozomatli Yeah.

41:49 Ozomatli Before the concert. And actually on Wednesday we fly to Australia. Then we go to Japan, right?

41:55 Ozomatli Right.

41:56 Drew Did you ever think your life would include the use of an airplane so much?

42:00 Adam No. Would you count on that?

42:02 Ozomatli I mean, airplanes nowadays are just a step up from a greyhound if you really think about it.

42:07 Drew But you never thought, when you grow up, you think, well, I'm going to play every three times a month.

42:12 Adam I did.

42:13 Drew I did.

42:13 Ozomatli Three times a month. Three or four. We're like.

42:16 Ozomatli Yeah, we're going. We travel hard. When we hit the road, we travel it hard. And I think a lot of it has to do with a little just good self-maintenance.

42:25 Ozomatli I used to save all my little receipts from the plane because I wanted to know where I went.

42:30 Adam And I kind of had like a whole bookload of these things. I knew I'd be traveling. I thought I'd be mulling drugs, actually, though.

42:37 Caller I didn't think it would be that hard.

42:38 Drew You got out of that gig pretty quick, though.

42:40 Adam I just assumed I would be putting balloons of heroin out of my ass in Trinabula. That's the place to hit. Yeah, that's what I planned on.

42:47 Ozomatli Actually, you were there.

42:48 Adam Actually, my family had actually talked to me about mulling.

42:51 Ozomatli Turkeys are beautiful. Turkeys are gorgeous.

42:53 Ozomatli Keystering a little.

42:54 Ozomatli What was your second question? What was your second question?

42:57 Ozomatli Well, I was kind of curious how you guys chose your new rapper. Your previous two rappers have such different voices. And your new rapper is kind of different from the other two.

43:10 Ozomatli Jabu is going to be coming in actually later. And the thing is with him is he was in another band called Fourth Avenue Jones. And we had jammed with them.

43:19 Ozomatli A bunch of times.

43:20 Ozomatli A bunch of times. And it really just flowed really well.

43:23 Ozomatli And the vibe just seemed to work, too, just as a person.

43:30 Ozomatli He's so different from the other two. Well, thanks for talking me out.

43:36 Drew The record was released on September 11th, 2001. Thanks for calling in on this timing.

43:42 Adam Did you just read that, Drew? Does it make a difference?

43:45 Ozomatli And the name of the record was Embrace the Chaos.

43:48 Drew Wow.

43:49 Ozomatli You think we had something to do with that?

43:51 Drew That's what I'm saying.

43:52 Adam No.

43:53 Ozomatli Is that what you're saying? I just saw the Fahrenheit movie yesterday.

43:57 Ozomatli Wasn't it a great movie?

43:58 Ozomatli Amazing.

43:59 Adam Never saw it.

44:00 Ozomatli You got to see it.

44:01 Ozomatli You should really see it.

44:03 Ozomatli Regardless of your political opinion.

44:05 Adam First off, it's irregardless. And secondly, you're right on. Yeah, I will see it. You should. I got no problem. I know. Listen, here's my problem, really. I don't like Michael Moore, but I don't like Bush either that much. And now Kerry doesn't seem like he's all that great. Nobody seems that good, really. Is really the problem.

44:27 Drew Did you see Linda Ronstadt caused a riot yesterday at the Las Vegas hotel?

44:31 Ozomatli No way.

44:31 Drew During her concert, screaming about Michael Moore and all the great...

44:36 Ozomatli What did she say?...

44:36 Drew people tore the place apart. She was escorted away.

44:40 Adam Well, when she breaks into that mariachi crap, look out.

44:43 That's not correct.

44:45 Ozomatli Hey man, she's big time in Tucson.

44:47 Ozomatli She's back on the ranch riding horses and all. Milk and cows.

44:51 Adam Here's the thing that I find amazing. It's sort of like the people that get in these really big arguments, Ford versus Chevy, that kind of stuff. It's like Ford truck, it's a good truck. Chevy truck, that's a good truck, you know, or they're both bad. There's not a lot of difference. The whole thing is like, look, we got to get Bush out of there. We got to get Kerry in there. It's like, yeah, what, Kerry? Really? We have to? I'm glad you're saying that. We got to get Reagan out of there. We need Carter.

45:23 Ozomatli I don't remember Reagan being that great.

45:26 Adam I don't remember Carter being... Yeah, I don't... It's like, okay, you got to get Bush out to get who in? This guy?

45:33 Ozomatli Really? At least we would have someone who commands the English language, though, if Kerry were in.

45:39 Adam I'm fine. I just... To me, it's all shades of gray. It's like, all right, I don't have a big problem with Bush. I don't have a big problem with Kerry. Neither guy seems dynamic by any stretch of the imagination. I haven't heard a guy come along in a long time where I went, wow, this guy's impressive. This guy... Talk about horsepower. This guy's got some serious ideas. This is a substantial individual. This is the kind of guy we need to... These guys just seem like talking heads that sort of... They lick their finger and they put it up and they try to figure out which way the wind is blowing and how many people are going to piss off and what their constituents do once and all that kind of stuff, what their party is. They tow the party line. I agree. It's like at the end of the...

46:17 Ozomatli With corporations giving them the most dough.

46:19 Adam Right. At the end of the day, I don't think I like anybody. I agree. But I don't understand the people that are vehement. It's like if Bush gets elected to another term, I am leaving the country. You know what I mean? It's like, really? You think Harry's going to come? I think if you took Sean Penn told him to close his eyes and he put Bush or Kerry in there or whoever, I don't think he's going to know the difference in two years. I don't think anyone's going to know the difference. I think it's just like light beer. I just, I don't think you know the people who claim Bud's better than Miller, it's better than whatever. I don't think anyone really knows.

46:46 Wow.

46:47 Adam That's heavy, man.

46:48 Ozomatli That's a fiery critique of the system.

46:51 Adam I'm right.

46:52 Ozomatli They're both trash.

46:52 Adam Paracet of people is what I'm saying.

46:54 Ozomatli That's what I'm saying, dog.

46:55 Adam Let's take a break. Ozomatli here. We're going to do a little band change.

46:58 Caller Ross Perot.

46:59 Ozomatli 004.

46:59 Adam We'll be right back after this. Al Sharpton.

47:04 Caller Here's the deal.

47:05 Drew You're looking to hook up?

47:06 Caller Sick of wasting time with the wrong person?

47:08 Caller One call is all you need to make.

47:10 Drew Call the Dateline. 877-889-DATE. Call the Dateline.

47:24 Ozomatli This hour brought to you in part by Axe.

47:26 Experience the Axe Effect.

47:56 Adam I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-L-A-V-E-1-9-1- A little changing in the guard with Ozomatli. Bully Will Doggone, as Drew and Jabu are in the studio.

48:09 Caller And you know it, and you know it.

48:11 Adam Yeah, thanks for coming in. We will hear something else from Ozomatli off the Street Signs CD before the 11 o'clock hours, Drew. And going to be on Killborne tomorrow night. And going to be playing at the X Games. When are the X Games and where are they? Are they in San Francisco?

48:32 Drew Staples.

48:33 Adam Are they out here?

48:34 Caller They were at Staples last year, so they may be back there.

48:38 Adam We went out, we did it a few years ago. Me and Jimmy went out there to San Francisco where they were doing it. Perfect, perfect weather for Xen. I mean, X gaming. Well, you know what I'm saying. Lots of hills, lots of wind, lots of good times. All right, so we'll get back to the phones and speak to Marsha, who's 13. Marsha?

49:02 Caller Yeah, it's Marcia.

49:03 Adam Marcia, what's happening?

49:06 Caller What happened?

49:07 Adam What's happening?

49:09 Caller I've been cutting for about three weeks now and my friend's cutting in front of me and I was wondering if it's more because of me or because of them because I still have stuff going on in my family too.

49:20 Drew I understand. You mean you're just, you're concerned you're just copying them?

49:24 Caller Yeah, I'm wondering if that's it.

49:27 Adam No, but let me ask this. Is there a difference in spelling between Marsha and Marcia?

49:32 Caller It depends where you're from.

49:33 Adam Is that what it is?

49:35 Drew Not in this case. If that's how she spells it.

49:37 Adam Yeah, you got to spell it different if you're going to call it different. That's my rule.

49:40 Drew How do you spell it?

49:41 Caller It's M-A-R-C-I-A.

49:43 Drew No, Marcia.

49:44 Adam Yeah, you're going to get that your whole life, right? Everyone just call you Marcia.

49:48 Caller The western and third is Marcia.

49:52 Caller Like all my teachers call me Marcia. Yeah.

49:54 Adam Marcia, Marcia, Marcia. Spell it differently.

49:57 Caller Where are you from?

49:59 Adam Just put like an umlaut over something.

50:01 Drew In Fresno.

50:02 Adam Or one of them tortilla zigzag things. One of those things. The senior things you put over the end. What's that thing called? What one of those is?

50:10 Caller What do you mean? What's that thing?

50:12 Adam No, like when you see the word, when you see the word senior or tortilla, oh no, not tortilla, just senior, you can see that enye. Put an enye on it.

50:21 Caller Put an enye. But then we'll see marcia.

50:24 Drew Still better. Then it'll be truly marcia.

50:27 Adam Alright, anyway.

50:28 Drew Here's the deal, marcia, people don't cut if they don't need relief from significant emotional discomfort. Having said that though, a certain amount of cutting has a contagious quality to it. And it clearly is a lot of copycat cutting going on, but so it's a little bit of both for you.

50:46 Adam Do you have trauma in the past?

50:48 Caller Well, yeah, my parents fight a lot and then my dad's an alcoholic and he smokes weed.

50:53 Drew Well, that's a little going on here.

50:55 Adam Is he out of the house now?

50:57 Caller Oh, no, he still is with us.

50:59 Drew Oh, yes.

50:59 Adam You get along okay with him?

51:01 Caller Not really. We fight a lot.

51:04 Adam All teenage girls hate either their dads or their moms.

51:07 Caller Yeah, I'm really close with my mom.

51:09 Adam Now, they usually pick one that they hate. Yeah, so Drew, get ready actually. Your daughter's 11. Yeah, from 13 to 22, she's going to hate your guts or she's going to hate your wife's guts.

51:20 Drew Good time.

51:20 Adam Yeah, one or the other. I think my sister just flipped the coin. Actually, my sister, yeah, she hated my dad, my stepdad, my mom, my stepmom. I think she just went with everybody. Smart. All right, now she wants to borrow money. Fantastic. All right, Marcia. Well, good times. And listen, let me just say this to all the teens who are miserable and they hate everyone in the side of their house and all that kind of stuff. The joke's on you, ultimately. You start in with your stepparents, you start in with your mom, you start in with everybody. They start in with you. Before you know it, you got to go home. Like it's one thing, like I go see my, I go to my parents on Thanksgiving. I tilt a few drinks. I start yelling at people. I get back in a Mercedes and go up to the hill and lock my door. I go back to a nice house. I have to deal with it. If I had to sleep over that night, miserable, I shut my pie hole if I had to sleep over that night. Just bite your lip, have a second helping of stuffing and go to bed. You know what I mean? Yeah. Could you imagine getting into it with everybody and then having to go down to the hole and go to bed every night for the next five years? Leave them alone. Spend time at school, do your thing, be a cheerleader, play the clarinet, do whatever. Don't come home and get into it with your mom and your stepdad every night and get in a whole thing. Just don't make it mid. Don't piss off the warden if you got another five years in prison. That's all I'm saying. You'll get time off for good behavior. Make friends. Make nice. Everyone make nice at home.

52:46 Caller That's it.

52:47 Adam Samantha? You're 22?

52:51 Caller What?

52:52 Adam 22 years old. What's happening?

52:56 Caller I actually called because I've been having a problem with my vaginal problems. Hold on one sec.

53:03 Adam Turn your radio down.

53:04 Caller No, no, no. It was my boyfriend. My crazy boyfriend wanted to hear this on air and he's retarded, so he turned on his radio. Anyway, so yeah. Thanks for announcing that.

53:18 Adam Anyway, so we've been having unprotected sex for a year and a half.

53:22 Caller I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

53:26 Ozomatli Whoops.

53:29 Caller And then just recently, what happened, started happening is, it burns when we have sex. Every time it really burns. And I don't know if there's something wrong with him or me.

53:40 Caller No, that means it's good. Whatever you guys are doing is probably good.

53:44 Drew Have you been checked? I mean, it's probably an infection, really some inflammation of the lining of the vagina, and that's infection usually.

53:49 Caller What about when you pee?

53:51 Caller Like, I've been wanting to get checked. I've been wanting both of us to go in and get checked together, but he refuses to.

53:56 Adam All right, listen, stop using our goddamn radio shows and intercom to talk to your stupid boyfriend who's in the entry hall. Just go get him and go to the goddamn doctor with him.

54:05 Drew You don't need him to go with you.

54:06 Adam I've been wanting to, I've been telling him that we should be, I've also been saying we should probably lease a new Tercel. I like the beige, but he wants the cold ball blue. But anyway, here's some other things I want to tell him. He should stop, just go down the hall and tell him.

54:23 Drew It's not bothering us. We don't need him. You go get checked out. You're the one having the symptoms. You're the one that they're going to figure out what's going on, for which there's going to be evidence of what's going on.

54:33 Adam That's right.

54:33 Drew If he also is participating in it, they will know that from what they find in you.

54:37 Adam That's right.

54:38 Drew Then you might want to try some yeast cream in the meantime too, because that's a very common reason.

54:42 Adam How about you guys try standing in the same room when you're having a conversation and getting rid of the seven second delay. Just go down the room and talk to them.

54:50 Drew It really, it wasn't an intercom. I was like, do you hear that? Adam, will you say that again? What? I should get checked? I've been telling him you ought to get checked.

54:58 Adam I know, but girls have to do that with guys. Guys don't do that with girls. Girls need witnesses. That's what I've been saying. That's what girls do. Guys, we don't even listen, so we never do that. You never do that with your wife. Vindication. See? I've been, no, because you're not listening the whole time she's talking. Women are constantly trying to get you to do stuff you don't want to do, and then somebody pipes up and says something like, yeah, well, yeah, no, you should see a doctor. Uh-huh, uh-huh. That's how it works.

55:28 Drew Was that Adam? You said I should see a doctor? Is that what you said, Adam?

55:32 Adam Adam, uh-huh. That's how it works. Guys, we don't listen. We're smart. We tune out. Because we know if we tune in, there could be trouble. There could be trouble.

55:40 Caller The less you know, the better.

55:42 Adam Yeah, yeah. There's nothing good coming in on that station. Let's just tune out and relax. Yeah, it's sort of like you're an elevator.

55:48 Does his penis smell like urine?

55:51 That was an hour ago.

55:53 Adam Yeah, it's an hour old.

55:56 Yeah.

55:57 Adam You're 24?

55:58 Caller That's right.

55:59 Adam What's happening?

56:01 Caller How you guys doing?

56:04 Caller We're doing good.

56:06 Adam Let's go. What's up?

56:07 Caller All right. Adam, I got this girl and I want to be seeing her in the near future. And she asked me before if she'd mind if I choked her and I didn't do it before. I didn't really say anything. She asked me and I didn't really do it or react to it.

56:24 Adam What is this girl? What is she to you?

56:27 Caller She's kind of my girlfriend.

56:29 Drew Kind of.

56:30 Adam What do you mean you're going to be seeing her in the near future if she's your girlfriend?

56:34 Caller I'm taking a trip to, she's a foreigner, so I'm going to be going and seeing her. And I haven't seen her in about a year or whatever.

56:42 Drew She hasn't seen her in a year? She's your girlfriend?

56:46 Adam He met her in a catalog.

56:48 Drew That's what I'm thinking.

56:50 Adam Where's she at? He fell in love with number 163. Where are you going to visit her?

56:57 Drew What country?

56:59 Caller She's from Sweden.

57:00 Drew Sweden. Oh, man.

57:01 Adam She's from Sweden. And where'd you guys meet?

57:04 Caller Well, she's the sister of a guy that I rent an apartment to. I manage some apartments and he's in one of them.

57:13 Adam Oh, hold on. By the way, the managed the apartment guy. That's it. You don't want to hang out with the managed the apartment guy. That's the chain smoker guy who's got the hose on the roll who's never once.

57:26 Drew This is the guy that showed up to drop some porn off for you guys or something.

57:30 Adam Apartment manager guys. There's something about apartment manager guys. It's like guys who work at welding shops, attorneys. There's a handful of jobs of guys you just want to avoid. Apartment manager guys, one of them. I don't know. These are the guys who wear the windbreakers. These are the guys who never stopped talking about the crappy car they've been restoring for 30 years and it was a piece of ass before. Where's this guy? I don't trust him. Line 2? JD?

58:00 Caller Yes.

58:01 Adam Yeah. I don't trust you now. You're an apartment manager guy.

58:04 Caller Yeah, I don't blame you.

58:08 Adam He's a big man. He knows he can imagine a great guy.

58:10 Drew So what's the question, though?

58:11 Caller Well, the question is I don't mind doing this for her.

58:17 Adam Choking. Choking.

58:19 Caller I mean, maybe I've seen too many movies or something, but I don't know. I just have a feeling that I don't think I'm going to kill her or anything like that. But what kind of a sign should I look for that I'm doing too much? I mean, aside from her turning blue or something.

58:29 Drew There's no way to really gauge that.

58:31 Adam The eyes rolling behind the head.

58:33 Drew Yeah, you cut your, your, your, not only are you just making her not breathe, you're cutting the blood supply off to the brain but putting pressure on the carotids. Yeah.

58:40 Caller So I just shouldn't do that.

58:41 Adam Cops tackling you is a good sign. I've always found that means it's time to stop. Cops pulling you off her. Yeah, you stick with the, stick with the man. Do you smoke, JD?

58:53 Caller Yeah, I smoke.

58:54 Drew Windbreaker?

58:56 Caller I don't have a windbreaker.

58:57 Adam But I know you do a lot of smoking. You can't. It's like, here's the whole thing. It's like, you want to manage some apartment buildings. Yeah. Do you smoke? No, actually, I'm a nonsmoker. I don't smoke.

59:06 Drew Sorry.

59:08 Adam It's too bad. It's too bad because everything checked out on the resume here. Antimanskills, college degree, it was all Christian. Everything was perfect here.

59:16 Drew I'm sorry about the no smoking thing.

59:21 Adam It rained to a Swedish guy and then bangs the sister. There's a dicey scene. Remember last night I was saying club owners? I was talking about club owners, which are sort of a club owners. Part businessman, part mafia, part pimp, part manager, part bartender, part greeter, part rodeo clown. The club manager is the kind of guy where if you crossed him, he's not in the mafia, but he still knows guys who could take care of you. You don't f with the club owner. Don't trust the club owner guy. Let me explain what the apartment manager guy is. That's the club owner guy with no ambition. That's all the bad qualities of the club owner guy, but he doesn't wheel and he doesn't deal. He just chain smokes and tells you that you can't have the aquarium in the living room. Sorry.

1:00:16 Drew No rabbit.

1:00:17 Adam Yeah, that's a pet. We got to know pet. No, I'm sorry. Fish count is a pet.

1:00:20 Drew Oh my God. In my backyard tonight, I saw a bobcat and this thing looked like a Jaguar. Yeah.

1:00:27 Adam You saw a bobcat in your backyard?

1:00:29 Caller I walked right into the driveway.

1:00:30 Drew Unbelievable. But it was beautiful. I was like, go away.

1:00:33 Adam It was majestic. It was beautiful.

1:00:35 Drew Beautiful.

1:00:35 Adam I saw a snake when I was driving down. There was a big snake in your driveway when I was leaving a few years back. Yeah. You got a whole wild kingdom going on over there. What's going on over there, Drew?

1:00:46 Drew We noticed the rabbit population went down. That's what the bunny thing reminded me of, and that's the bobcat.

1:00:50 Adam I saw a, let me tell you something that happened to me tonight, simultaneously, I was in my living room. It was about 8 o'clock at night, just getting dark. Saw a lizard in my living room.

1:01:00 Drew Yeah, we get those.

1:01:00 Adam I got mixed feelings about lizards. Like on one hand, everyone's like, oh, they're good. They eat the bad bugs. They eat all the other, how come I never see you guys eating anything? They're just sitting on rocks. Well, where's the eating? Where's the eating? That's all I'm saying. With all you bugs out there and all you lizards and everything. Spiders too. Spiders. Everyone's always right. No, the spider's good because the spider will eat the bad. Yeah, how come he's just sitting around? I never see him eating nothing. He's just sitting there. He's sitting everywhere and the lizard, he eats all the bad bugs too. He never doing nothing when I see him. He's just sitting there. I would like these animals more if I saw him eating the bad bugs. If I saw a lizard kicking a roach's ass, I would be a huge lizard fan. I'd be like, oh man, you lizards, you're welcome in my home anytime. I want to see, if I saw a spider kicking the ass out of an ant and a lizard eating a roach, I'd be like, you guys are in now. What do you need? Can I fix you a drink? Who wants a butt?

1:01:59 Caller Sometimes roaches come in handy too, man.

1:02:02 Adam So roaches get a horrible rap because they don't really even do anything. They just run and everyone hates them. You know what I mean? Roaches don't ever sting. No one got stung by a roach, no one gets bit by a roach. Once in a while, people try the disease thing on them, but no one ever got sick.

1:02:16 They go in baby's ears.

1:02:20 Adam They talk about that stuff, but it never really happens and it's like, what happened to your buddy Phil? He got AIDS from a roach and died. People talk about them being dirty, but you never really hear anything or see anything, right?

1:02:34 Caller I used to live in Tabasco, Mexico.

1:02:36 Adam Oh, really?

1:02:36 Caller Oh man, there was this.

1:02:38 Adam Where is Tabasco, Mexico?

1:02:39 Caller It's right next to where Yucatan is.

1:02:43 Drew The road to the size of Frisbee is there, though.

1:02:44 Caller Yeah, they're pretty big, man. I remember I used to sleep on a hammock. One time I got off and I wanted to go to the bathroom because I was three years old and I got off and I put my foot on the floor and my foot kept on going. It was a big old cockroach and I couldn't step and it was the size of my foot when I was three. So it was a little one. But anyway, what happened when we were playing soccer outside, you know, because that's what you do out there. Sure. Anyway, you go out there and there was this kid that kicked the ball out too far and he went over there and he ended up falling into a ditch of centipedes or...

1:03:20 Adam Oh, yeah, millipedes.

1:03:22 Caller Yeah, so he came out, he was all burned, it looked like really crazy.

1:03:26 Adam All right, but that's centipede, that's not a roach. I'm just saying, let's give the roach a break. I don't like them any better than the next guy. I think it's what they stand for. It's like they stand for poverty and filth. That's what they stand for, so we don't like them, we want to get rid of them, but they really don't do anything. I listen. I can give them their prompts. Here's the thing, they're unattractive bugs. We like attractive bugs. It's a weird thing. Lady bug does more damage than a roach does. Lady bug, eat your plants up. We've got no problem with lady bugs. They look fine. And the uglier the bug, we ain't into it. And the same with the animals, too. It really is that way. And the good-looking animals do just as much damage as the ugly animals, maybe more. We just don't like them because they don't look nice. But all I'm saying is, is I would be much more down with the lizards if I saw them eating a roach once in a while. I suppose they've got to live off something, they're just never doing anything but sunning themselves. But I saw-

1:04:19 Caller You can have a lot of fun with the tail.

1:04:21 Adam I saw, yeah, they pop right off. I saw, so I walked into my living room and I said, hey, I got a lizard in my living room. By the way, doing nothing, just staying in there like they always do, because I've got to catch this lizard and throw it outside, and as I was going to catch a lizard, I looked through the window and there's a coyote walking right by my front yard and I thought, this is crazy, I'm going to be attacked by an owl or something in a second. I got a lot of coyotes right here.

1:04:45 Drew Is that the new place?

1:04:45 Adam No.

1:04:46 Drew Oh, really?

1:04:47 Adam And every once in a while, the coyotes go nuts and they go off at the same time. Oh, that's crazy.

1:04:52 Drew They're eating something.

1:04:54 Adam Are they eating something?

1:04:55 Caller They're telling everybody, yo, I just cut a small child.

1:04:58 Drew We have them go nuts all the time. They go, oh, they're going crazy.

1:05:03 Adam But then they all join in like a unison.

1:05:06 Drew That's at the end when they've conquered it, then they start howling at it.

1:05:09 Adam Conquered what?

1:05:09 Drew They killed something. They're like, yeah, we got one. They're like, grab it or stomp it or something. Yeah, it's party.

1:05:15 Adam I would like to cut a deal with these animals. They're like, look, coyotes, you're fine, you just got to let's all let's gang up on the roaches is what I'm saying. What you guys eat some roaches, spiders, you guys eat something once in a while. Somebody's got to get the ants. I'm seeing ants now. Oh, they're not going out. Ants aren't going anywhere.

1:05:32 Caller No. Do you have a cat or something?

1:05:34 Adam No. I don't have a cat.

1:05:35 Caller No, because cats usually eat all that stuff.

1:05:37 Drew Ants?

1:05:37 Adam Cats only eat ants?

1:05:38 Drew No.

1:05:39 Adam Mexican cats only eat ants. We try to give white cats some purina cat food to try to kiss our ass. No, they don't even do giblets anymore. No, our white cats are ruined.

1:05:51 Caller No, but cats only eat roaches.

1:05:53 Adam Mexican cats got the eye of the tiger. You know what I mean? They're hungry. You know what I mean? We got white cats. We got moras. They turn their ass at everything. They got to eat nothing but pure white albacore. That's it. They won't even eat the stuff in oil. Yeah. In water. Drugs fish lives off of nothing but the finest French pâté, which is flown in each day from France. And they'll eat some solid white albacore tuna, but other than that, they eat nothing else. Then we can't even eat roaches. All right. Let's take a break. Should we take a break? Fair enough. Ozomatli in studio tonight will take a social break. We'll hear a song when we come back after this. It's Love Line. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Jabu and as Drew are here tonight from Ozomatli. We will hear something off the Street Signs CD and just a couple of few. Also, you can find the guys on Kilbourne tomorrow night. Oh, I forgot the plug of Cranky Anchors and season, new season opening tomorrow night. Yeah, but some of the country gets a show in a little delay, but 10.30 Comedy Central, new season of Cranky Anchors. I got to remember to plug my own crap. All right, let's get back to the phones and speak to Susan who's 18. Susan? What's happening? Hold on a second. I'll tell you what I need. I need one of those praying mantises.

1:07:47 Drew Yeah, they're beautiful. Yeah.

1:07:48 Adam That's a good-looking bug they've been praising.

1:07:51 Drew Who was in a backyard recently? A littler one.

1:07:54 Adam But the praying mantis will kick some ass, boy.

1:07:58 Drew They eat each other. They cut their sex and they eat them.

1:08:01 Caller Their mates' heads off, you know?

1:08:03 Ozomatli Yeah, they do that.

1:08:05 Adam That's the problem. It's like one of those horror movies. You invent the perfect killing machine. Eventually, they turn on you. I just want something to kick a little roach ass. That's all I'm saying. Praying mantis, look, you take care of the ants and the roaches. That's all. We'll keep you cool. I'll talk to the lizard about not eating you, although again, I just see him selling himself. I never really actually see him mow. Praying mantis, that's a bug. We got to get one of that. Where are those?

1:08:33 Drew They're really in the east.

1:08:34 Adam They're in the east? We got to get one out here.

1:08:36 Caller But then you start fighting them. You could put them in pits and start fighting each other and make some money off of them.

1:08:41 Adam Oh, really?

1:08:42 Caller They do that.

1:08:43 Adam Do they?

1:08:44 Caller They're kind of like pit bulls. Yeah, they do that.

1:08:45 Adam They do it with cock fighting but with praying mantises.

1:08:47 Caller Yeah, they do.

1:08:48 Drew They put razor blades on their paws.

1:08:49 Caller I saw it in a movie once.

1:08:50 Ozomatli Yeah.

1:08:51 Adam Really?

1:08:51 Ozomatli Did they really fight praying mantises?

1:08:53 Caller They fight praying mantises, man.

1:08:54 Drew How do you tell which one you're rooting for?

1:08:57 Caller Yeah, but how do you know which one you're rooting for?

1:08:59 Adam You go for the green one.

1:09:00 Caller They put a rare sash on like gangs in New York.

1:09:03 Adam Yeah, you got to put a little toenail polish on one of their asses or something like that.

1:09:07 Caller Like a cross or question mark or something.

1:09:10 Adam You do something. I think you just mark one of them. The other one is the one that's not marked. You see, that's how it goes. You're with me, Drew? Yeah, you don't have to have the peace sign on one of them and a swastika on there. All you need is the peace sign on one of them.

1:09:22 Drew The pentagram, yeah.

1:09:23 Adam That's the one with the mark.

1:09:25 Caller But that one's going to lose. It's got a peace sign on it.

1:09:27 Adam Well, I don't know. Okay, let's not put the peace. Yeah, let's put something else on it. But all I'm saying is put the mark on it. You hit one with the sharpie. That's all. I'd like to see some praying mantis fights. I'd get down with that. And you know what? I miss the Mexican jumping bean, too. It used to be. You know, I'm sorry I had to go there, but I do miss. There used to be some jumping beans. There used to be a lot of good stuff. I don't know what a good insects are, but we've got to get them back. Kids today with their video games. They don't know from potato bugs. Susan, you're 18? I'd like to see a praying mantis go with a potato bug. That'd be some carnage. Because that's a big fat bugger.

1:10:04 Caller So you're 18.

1:10:05 Adam Oh, you're 18.

1:10:08 Caller All right, every time I get my period, I get physically ill. Like, it'll upset my stomach to where I end up throwing up.

1:10:16 Drew Has that been recently only or has that been since you've started menstruating?

1:10:21 Caller Not since I've started, but within like the past three or four years.

1:10:26 Drew Are you on a medication?

1:10:28 Caller No.

1:10:28 Drew Nothing?

1:10:30 Caller Nothing.

1:10:30 Drew Anything else going on with you? Overweight?

1:10:33 Caller No. If anything, I'm almost underweight.

1:10:35 Drew Do you have any disorder? You ever been pregnant? History of ovarian cysts?

1:10:43 Caller Not that I know of.

1:10:44 Drew Have you been checked for cysts or endometriosis?

1:10:48 Caller I have no clue. I've never been to a gynecologist.

1:10:49 All right.

1:10:50 Drew Well, that's what needs to happen. Because there could be a lot of differences, but it sounds kind of like endometriosis. Yeah.

1:10:57 All right.

1:11:00 Drew There you go.

1:11:02 Adam You know what I don't see? I don't see the red ants so much anymore.

1:11:05 Drew Go around, but not so much.

1:11:06 Adam Yeah. I used to see red ants. You ever see those red ants?

1:11:09 Caller Those things hurt.

1:11:11 Adam I got stung by one once or bit or whatever. They're bad ass. The red ones. I don't know what happened to the red ones. The black ones took over.

1:11:18 Drew Black ones.

1:11:19 Ozomatli You know. It had to happen.

1:11:23 Adam I think the black ones just like hitting it on more than the red ants.

1:11:27 Ozomatli Whatever.

1:11:28 Caller So there ain't too many red ants around anymore, is that what you're trying to say?

1:11:31 Adam Yeah.

1:11:31 Ozomatli The brother ants.

1:11:32 Adam We took the red ants. We put them on the reservation. We killed the papalos. We gave them blankets with smallpox. Now they got diabetes. They're fading off. But they're opening some casinos out there. Red ants. The red ants and the black ants. I like to see a little gang war between the red ants and the black ants going at it.

1:11:52 Caller They have their own movie of the warriors in it.

1:11:55 Adam I'm getting in the nature because you know what it is? It's getting hot outside and when it gets hot, nature comes out. That's what happens and now everything is like game on. All the spiders, all the stuff, everything is out but they are not sure what to do. I just see ants wandering around my house like what's up? It's hot. What are we doing? Where are we going? Should we be eating or something? They don't even seem to be going after anything. They just wander around. What is that? When it gets hot, they just come out but they don't seem to have a plan. They are just out. They are just hanging out.

1:12:28 Caller Well, they just eat.

1:12:31 Adam They are not going to where the food is. They are just kind of cruising.

1:12:34 Caller The food comes to them. Well, maybe somebody messed up their trail. You just come by and see a trail. When you are a kid, you just go there and rub the trail. A kid? You do it now. Or magnifying glass. You burn a couple of them and they get confused.

1:12:48 Adam Hit them with the water. I got plans. Let's hear something from Ozomatli.

1:12:53 Drew Agree on?

1:12:55 Adam What song we got? You cute up there, Anderson?

1:12:57 Caller What you gonna play, bro?

1:12:59 Adam I mean, Chris and Anderson. This one. Oh, it's the name of the album. It's called The Street Signs. Ozomatli for you, everybody. Street Signs, name of the song, name of the CD. And you can see these guys tomorrow night on Kill Born. And let's try to figure out who we're going to talk to next. Let's talk to Ashley, who's 16. Ashley?

1:17:05 The other night, I was at a party, and I was with my ex-boyfriend. And we're friends now. We've been friends for over a year since I broke up. And I got really drunk and ran back to his house. I spent a night there. And I went to the guest room to watch TV. And he started to, like, you know, put his hand down my pants and everything. And I thought that I was just being kind of flooded by not fighting back. But I asked a friend of mine about it. And he said that because I've been sexually harassed a couple of times and because I was molested when I was young, that that's the reason I froze and didn't fight back.

1:17:45 Drew And yeah, that's real typical, is that women that were sexually abused as a child will then have a freeze reaction when they are victimized as an adult.

1:17:55 I didn't think that it was, like, rape. And I didn't think it was, you know, I thought that I was just being a bad person by letting him have sex with me. And I didn't want it. And after a couple of minutes, I pretended like I passed out.

1:18:10 Drew Yeah, this is part of that whole phrase response that some people even tried to be, pretend they're dead kind of thing. That's really what's going through their mind, is if I'm unseen, if I'm dead.

1:18:19 Adam It's a risky strategy. By the way, pretending you're passing out does not make most guys stop.

1:18:23 Yeah, well, he did stop and-

1:18:26 Adam He did?

1:18:26 Yeah, but then the next day, I woke up around 9.30, and he was at the door. And my friend had asked me if I, he said, when I woke up, did I have my clothes on? And I said, yes, I put them back, like, as soon as he left, after I pretended to pass out, I put my clothes back on. And he was afraid, my friend was afraid that while I was sleeping, he might have came back in or-

1:18:48 Drew But your clothes were on.

1:18:49 Yeah.

1:18:50 Adam Wait a second, the guy was a friend of yours, right?

1:18:54 Well, yeah, but- The guy that did the- He tried to initiate doing things.

1:19:00 Drew He's an ex-boyfriend.

1:19:01 Adam He's your ex, you say ex-boyfriend or ex-friend?

1:19:04 Ex-boyfriend. But I told him that I didn't want to do anything like that and that I didn't really feel comfortable and-

1:19:10 Adam All right, hold on a second. Here's the thing, attention, ladies.

1:19:15 Drew We need like a gun they shoot off, some sort of like a flare gun. You mean to the guy, Freud? Yes.

1:19:21 Adam No, look, you can't sleep over at an ex-boyfriend's house without him attempting to have sex with you. It ain't gonna happen.

1:19:29 Drew Well, let's clarify that.

1:19:31 Adam Here's the thing, if you've had sex with a woman in the past-

1:19:34 Drew He's not had sex with her.

1:19:36 Adam He's not had sex with her?

1:19:37 Drew No, she just finished saying, I've always told him I didn't wanna go there, I didn't wanna do that.

1:19:42 Adam I think she meant that particular night.

1:19:44 Drew Let's ask. All right.

1:19:46 Adam Drew, you know you're-

1:19:47 Drew I'm usually wrong, so.

1:19:49 Adam Usually?

1:19:50 Drew Always.

1:19:50 Ozomatli Thank you, thank you.

1:19:52 Adam Was it Ashley?

1:19:52 Drew Yeah.

1:19:53 Adam Was it Ashley?

1:19:54 Yeah.

1:19:55 Adam Had you had sex with him before?

1:19:57 I started to, the first time I ever had sex with him, but then I stopped, because I couldn't do it.

1:20:05 Adam When you were boyfriend and girlfriend with him, you tried to?

1:20:10 Yeah, like a year ago.

1:20:11 Drew You tried to, but didn't go through with it?

1:20:13 Yeah.

1:20:14 Adam How long were you boyfriend and girlfriend with him?

1:20:16 Just about two or three months.

1:20:18 Adam And so you guys just had oral sex in that time period?

1:20:22 Yeah.

1:20:22 Drew Fool around.

1:20:24 But I just didn't feel comfortable doing it this time, and I didn't want to-

1:20:26 Adam No, I know this time, I know this time. We're just talking about the past.

1:20:31 Drew We're just trying to see- Adam's making a point about when that plane has been crossed.

1:20:37 Adam Like, look, if I had sex with my mom and then she spent the night a year later, I'd try it, I'd make a move. I'd make a move.

1:20:43 Drew All right, but let's sort of clear up for that. Men will do that, I think they will assume that a girl, that it may or may not be correct assumption, they may be a-holes for thinking this way, but I think 90% of men will think of a girl spends the night in his house. She's sort of not even anticipating, but sort of encouraging some sort of.

1:21:05 Adam I don't think they guys even break it down. It's like, look, there's a vagina downstairs. I'm gonna go down there.

1:21:10 Drew You gotta check it out.

1:21:11 Adam I'm going down there. Yeah, there's a vagina downstairs. It's not related to me. It's not my sister, it's not my mom. I'm going down.

1:21:18 Drew And most guys don't understand what a freeze reaction is, don't want implication of sexual abuse. They can't process all that. So how's it got? I don't know, but whether she has or she hasn't it doesn't really matter how's a guy to know in a situation like this.

1:21:32 Adam He doesn't know. We can't work with the guys.

1:21:36 Drew But what can we tell the girls to tell the guys if they're frozen, they're free, they're traumatized?

1:21:41 Adam They gotta punch them. That's it. I mean, we're not going to talk to the guys. The idea that the prey stops struggling for the guys, the 16-year-old guys with the boner just means, oh, she's just holding still now. It's like, what are we supposed to tell the coyotes when the rabbit stops moving? To back away? No, it's just finish the job. I mean, that's what guys are. I mean, I don't want to say that all guys are rapists, but 17-year-old guys.

1:22:08 Drew The point is, that's not really being a rapist because guys aren't being educated about how to assess these situations.

1:22:14 Adam Even if they were being educated, they wouldn't want to know. They just know there's a chick.

1:22:18 Caller But you know, it's also, there's no fun when she doesn't want to do it with you. So if you're the kind of guy that keeps on going, you know, and she's not having fun with you, then there's something wrong with you.

1:22:28 Adam Well, let me modify that. It's less fun. But as opposed to nothing, any port in a storm.

1:22:35 Drew You understand, Adam's high school experience.

1:22:38 Adam No, I never did. And listen, Drew, you're the man who's passionate.

1:22:42 Drew That's the point. If you had you had the opportunity.

1:22:44 Adam Oh, look, all I'm saying is we've all been with women. And at some point or another, got the idea that maybe they weren't as enthusiastic about it as we were at some point. I'm not talking about raping anybody. I'm just saying at a certain point, you kind of get the feeling like, eh, maybe they're doing something they don't feel too good about. Maybe they got a boyfriend somewhere. Maybe they realize it's rekindling something, maybe whatever the reasons. You get that feeling that don't stop you. You keep especially you keep moving. And you're not going to you're not going to whack them over the head with a with a lamp or anything. But I just mean you're going to keep moving. Now, if they say stop, then you stop. But if they're just going to sort of sit there and freeze up, you're going to keep moving, especially 17 year old guy or whoever old this guy is. So what Ashley's got to do, she got to get some therapy for for what happened in the past. So she doesn't keep reenacting this situation.

1:23:38 Caller So she doesn't freeze, Ashley.

1:23:40 Adam Yeah. So here's the deal. You just got to get a little therapy for what happened in the past. What happened the other night? You don't need the therapy for. Believe me, what you need the therapy for is whatever puts you in the position not to do anything about the other night.

1:23:56 Caller I mean, I didn't want him to do anything, but I'd known him for a while.

1:24:01 Drew But understand all that thinking and reasoning about what had happened is independent of the freeze reaction. For the freeze reaction, something that comes from a certain...

1:24:13 Adam Okay, here's what we're saying, Ashley, you're 16, you're going to be attacked again.

1:24:20 Drew And frequently.

1:24:22 Adam You won't even... you're going to look at everything that's being attacked, by the way, because every time you get with a guy, you're going to freeze at some point, and then it's going to turn into rape, but because you didn't say anything, in your mind, it's going down into rape, and in his mind, it went down to just bad sex. Okay, but here's the thing, I don't know what your trauma was, some sexual abuse in the past, you're going to have to get some therapy. Alright?

1:24:50 Caller Therapy is the best way.

1:24:51 Adam That's it. And then, two things to do. A, get some therapy, B, don't get into those situations where you're drinking, and sleeping over, and hanging out, and don't go to the party and say, I'm just going to go, I'm going to pass out in the rec room here. No, that's trouble. Stay out of that situation.

1:25:07 Drew You should understand your judgment as it pertains to those sorts of things are going to be very poor.

1:25:11 Adam That's right. Ozomatli in the studio tonight. Take a quick break. Drew, would you not do that, please? Actually, probably get up and start leaving and stuff.

1:25:22 Drew That wasn't, I can't stand up and stretch my legs.

1:25:24 Adam Let me, I don't know if it was Ann Benson then.

1:25:26 Caller Do we still fight?

1:25:27 Adam It coincided with your thing, but don't leave.

1:25:30 Caller Ten bucks on Drew standing up?

1:25:32 Adam Oftentimes, the headphones come off, the mics are flying around. Just let me say, let me talk to commercial and then move.

1:25:38 Caller We'll be ready to start fighting.

1:25:39 Adam About four seconds.

1:25:42 Caller Oh, we're cool. Yeah, I think so, too. Are you guys cool?

1:25:47 Adam He knows I'm the praying man. We'll take a quick break. Ozomatli's here. We'll be, you know what it is to do? It's distracting for me. Every time I'm about to have about three seconds away, you pop up and start making a move and doing stuff. I'll hold still.

1:26:06 Drew Yes, sir, Miss Roll.

1:26:06 Adam I'm going to rub it in my face. I got to do this stuff. See what I'm saying? I'm going to be rubbing it in my face. Just relax. He's mad. All right, we'll take a quick break. We'll be right back. Phone, forget about that phone. We got enough of your calls. Ozomatli in studio tonight, Street Signs, name and CD, gonna be on Kilbourne tomorrow night. And let's speak to Andrea, or possibly Andrea.

1:26:57 Drew Or Andrea.

1:26:58 Adam Or could it be Andrea? I'm gonna guess.

1:27:01 Drew Andrea.

1:27:02 Adam I'm just gonna play the odds and go with Andrea. And if she corrects me, I'm gonna punish her. Andrea?

1:27:09 Drew Oh, yeah.

1:27:10 Adam What's happening, baby doll?

1:27:12 What's up?

1:27:14 Adam Yeah. And is it Andrea, by the way?

1:27:17 It is Andrea.

1:27:18 Adam Good. You know my favorite person all time is the person that says, actually, it's Andrea, but whatever you want. That's the person I like, the whatever you want person. However you say it is fine with me, that's the person I need to hang out with. All right, Andrea, what's up, baby doll?

1:27:36 Okay, I'm getting married in three weeks and my fiance and I have been together for eight years.

1:27:43 Drew Oh, wow. How old is he?

1:27:46 I'm ready to have a baby.

1:27:48 Drew How old is he?

1:27:49 He's 23.

1:27:50 Adam You guys hooked up when you were 15.

1:27:53 Yeah, we met freshman year in high school.

1:27:55 Drew All right, what's the question?

1:27:59 I'm ready to have children.

1:28:01 Adam Hold on, you know what I like about most radio shows? Like, we met at 15, we were both virgins when we met. We've been together for eight years. Most radio shows are like, that is wonderful. God bless you. More power to you. Now, I'm sure you get, yeesh, oh, Christ. That's going to be a nightmare.

1:28:19 Drew Drew, what's wrong with you?

1:28:20 Adam Let's try to be encouraging once in a while. God bless you, kids. I wish more people were like you.

1:28:26 Well, thank you.

1:28:27 Adam Yeah, sorry for Drew, oh, Christ, Mother Pearl. You guys are doomed. All right, so you want a baby and what about it?

1:28:39 He's not ready for one yet. He thinks that we need to wait until we're financially ready.

1:28:43 Drew Boys, is he ever right?

1:28:46 Caller Yeah. Yeah.

1:28:47 Adam Because next thing you know, you'll be-

1:28:49 We'll never be financially ready.

1:28:51 Caller That's true, too, actually.

1:28:52 Adam Well, you could be financially ready. Here's the point. You don't want to be stepping off a hammock on a roach that carries you into the hallway.

1:29:01 Drew Or carries the kid off.

1:29:03 Adam That's what I mean. That's why you don't want that for your kid.

1:29:07 Drew Look, Andrea, there's plenty of time. Why not?

1:29:10 Caller I just really want to be a young mom. I feel like I want to have kids, raise them, get them out of the house, and then still be young enough to do stuff after they're gone.

1:29:19 Caller You have no idea what you're getting yourself into.

1:29:22 Drew You have no idea.

1:29:23 Adam As you can do, what my parents did, I mean, my dad was a little bit older and didn't have kids till he was like 30, 32, but he kicked my sister out when she was 13, so I was like, he didn't wait that extra five years.

1:29:36 Drew He was 32?

1:29:37 Adam Huh?

1:29:37 Drew He was in his 30s when he had your sister?

1:29:39 Adam Well, I don't know. My sister's 41 and he's like 73 or something.

1:29:44 Drew Even in his 30s, he should have...

1:29:47 Adam Yeah? What's up? She left when she was 14.

1:29:50 Drew Yeah, but he should have been able to do a little better job as a baritone.

1:29:56 Caller How dare you?

1:29:58 Caller So if you have kids now that end up like Mr. Corolla...

1:30:01 Drew Yeah. Well, no, I think quite the contrary is being proven.

1:30:04 Adam Listen, my dad should have waited. He's like 170 before he had kids.

1:30:08 Drew But Andrew, listen, you've got the more stable the environment, the more you're able to be a good parent. Stay focused, do a good job, reduce the stress.

1:30:17 Adam Let's try to figure out what kind of money's coming in. What's your husband do for a living?

1:30:21 Caller He's an engineer.

1:30:23 Adam Where's he work? What kind of engineer?

1:30:26 Caller Right now, he's working for the city of Salem.

1:30:30 Drew Salem sanitation engineer.

1:30:31 Adam He's in Oregon. So all right, what's he pulling down a year?

1:30:35 Caller He's starting right now at 35,000.

1:30:39 Adam Engineer, 35K.

1:30:40 Drew Sanitation engineer.

1:30:41 Adam Garbage man. Sanitation engineer.

1:30:44 Ozomatli Did she say sanitation engineer?

1:30:46 Caller Civil engineer. He's going to go back to get his master's and he'll be starting off around here.

1:30:51 Adam Hi.

1:30:52 Caller So he's going to make a lot of money.

1:30:54 Adam One day, he'll make some decent coin and that's when you should have your kid.

1:30:58 Drew Right.

1:30:59 Adam We agree with your husband or your potential husband.

1:31:02 Drew He's very, very wise man.

1:31:03 Adam All right. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. He wants to have kids at 28. You want to have kids now you're 23. Why don't you call it 25, 26?

1:31:10 Drew We'll give him a little bit.

1:31:14 Adam Send him to boarding school in Switzerland when they're 13. You get them right out of the house.

1:31:18 Drew What is the hurry?

1:31:19 Adam I don't know, but it's a weird plan. Come on, I want to crap out some kids now so I can hurry up and raise them and kick them out of the house. So they'll still be in good shape.

1:31:26 Caller Yeah.

1:31:27 Adam What the hell kind of life? Hurry up and die.

1:31:29 Caller I had kids kind of young with my wife. You did? Yeah.

1:31:32 Drew But in Andrew's case, it's about her, not about the kids. Raising children is about the kids, not what you want, unfortunately.

1:31:38 Caller Yeah, when you have them, you find out, hey, it's about... Yeah, because the money thing is really important, because I really love my kids, my wife, me and both, we really love them. And it's so expensive, man, to be able to give them the kind of life that you want to give them as far as like the right schooling, the right doctors, because you don't want to skimp on stuff like that when you really want to have kids. So it's like it's better to be more prepared and have more money. I'm you know, right? No way. No way in heck am I going to say, you know, like I regret having my kids because I love my kids and they're the best thing that ever happened to me. And they actually put a little fire in my, you know, you know, my behind.

1:32:18 Adam Be able to get it when I make you go out and earn a little something, right?

1:32:21 Caller Yeah. But if you can wait, man, just just wait, because don't wait too long.

1:32:29 Adam You should be a counselor. If you can wait, you should wait.

1:32:32 Caller Don't wait too long, because then, you know, you're too old to, you know, when you're a teenager, you got to be old enough to be able to...

1:32:38 Adam Give birth to a mummy. Let's take a break. That was some sage advice.

1:32:45 Caller Just have them now. We'll be right back after that. Alright guys, bottom line, here's the deal.

1:32:51 Caller Looking to hook up?

1:32:52 Caller Sick of wasting time with the wrong person?

1:32:54 Caller One call is all you need to make. Call the dateline. The dateline.

1:32:57 Drew 877-889-DATE.

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1:33:05 Caller 1-800-LOVE-191.

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1:33:30 Adam God bless you. Great seeing these guys again, even though I never saw them the first time. I just assumed they're in here. I think I passed them many Ozomatli signs on the way in every night. I see a lot of them on bus stops and stuff like that. Street Signs, name of the new CD. Go out and get it. And listen, it's one of these things where even if you don't like it, people think you're cool if it's sitting around. You know what I mean? They'll go, this guy stepped first.

1:33:52 Caller So if you buy it and you keep it in your car and you go on a date, and the girl sees it, she's going to think, oh man, this guy's hot.

1:33:58 Adam Then she'll do the pass out and you get busy. So until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying Mahalo.

1:34:12 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Annie Gold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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