0:57🔗VoiceoverLoveline is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content. Sexually-oriented content. Listener discretion is advised. Listener discretion is advised. Listener discretion is advised. This is Loveline. With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.
1:24🔗VoiceoverYeah. Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. And Hawthorne Heights is a band, which is coming on here tonight. As a matter of fact, we just found out they're coming on tonight a little earlier in the day and then afflict on Kimmel tonight.
1:50🔗AdamSo if they're doing Kimmel, they got to be hot. He will not let second tier bands on that show. I know. I tried to get my band, Narthex on there.
2:07🔗AdamYeah. Edge. Edge. So those guys are going to be coming over here from Kimmel. So we'll probably have them on in the second break. But now we'll move forward, Drew.
2:41🔗DrewShe never ever offered you coming though. It was just whether she was going to come or not.
2:44🔗AdamWell, here's the thing. I was going to go on a fishing trip.
2:47🔗DrewThat's what she said. But you're not going on that now.
2:49🔗AdamNo, but I'm not because I got to work Saturday and then I got two shows to do on Tuesday and then I'm going to New York to do Letterman on Wednesday. So I just thought, that's too much. You know?
3:06🔗AdamI've been home. And here's the whole thing about a vacation. Vacation is fine except for if you go on one of these fishing ones, you got to get up at 445 and then you got to go out and sit in the sun and do all that. And then when you come home, you're exhausted. Now it's time to get back to work.
3:21🔗AdamI'm going to take a Quailude. I'm going to put myself a nice IV drip in me. And I'm going out. You know what I want to do this weekend? I want to do that thing you do, rapid detox.
3:31🔗DrewYou know, I'm glad you brought that up because those are finally defunct. A lead article of JAMA this week showed that there's no place for rapid detox.
3:42🔗AdamYou mean there are facilities, but there's no place in our society.
3:46🔗DrewIn treatment because people are dying as a result. It cost a ton and it showed in no way to be superior to standard detox, which is what I do for people.
3:54🔗AdamLet me ask you this, Drew. I'm looking to really get some serious sleep in this weekend, though.
3:59🔗DrewYou can just go under anesthesia. We can put you to sleep.
4:09🔗AdamYeah, I don't want all the concoctions and pills and whatnot. I just want a nice morphine drip, some anesthesia. Maybe work a little, you know, catheterize me, obviously.
4:26🔗AdamBazooka or something. What do they do for number two?
4:29🔗DrewDiapers. That's right. You won't know it.
4:32🔗AdamOkay. All right. My point is, I would like to go down for like 22 to 28 hours and just go down hard. And when I wake up, I don't know what day it is. I don't even want to know who I am.
4:47🔗AdamBut let me ask this, Drew. How does it work? Explain this to me. If your work, you know, you're burning the midnight oil, you're burning the candle at both ends, you're burning something else. I can't think of a third analogy. And you're really behind on sleep and you've just been run ragging for a week. And then you sleep eight hours.
5:29🔗AdamYou can store. Yeah, like a battery where you go like, look, this is one of these days where we're going to be, I'm going to be going to bed at 2, I got to get up at 5 to go to catch a 7 a.m. flight to New York. So the day before, I'm going to sleep for 16 hours, and then I'll feel great the following day when I sleep for three hours.
5:48🔗DrewI know I hate that. Why do we have to sleep at all? Let's get rid of that altogether.
5:53🔗AdamWell, first off, if there was no sleep at all, I would beat off 126 times a day. I realize that. Because my witching hour is about 2 a.m. to 8 a.m. That's what you're doing there. That's what I'm doing.
6:06🔗DrewI thought it was your medicine that kept you awake at night.
6:08🔗AdamWell, there's that too. But no, you know what I'm saying?
6:11🔗AdamYou know what I'd be doing to myself between 4 a.m. and 6 a.m.?
6:17🔗DrewJust be doubling down what you did between 2 and 4.
6:20🔗AdamI know. But the point is you would just add that number. Yeah. All I'm saying is, Drew, that would be a horrible idea for me and the whole story.
6:27🔗DrewIt wouldn't stop at 6. Let's face it. Yeah.
6:29🔗AdamOkay. Now, here's what I'm asking, though. We have not worked that out as far as humankind goes in several billion years.
6:39🔗AdamAny evolvement? Has there been any evolvement?
6:41🔗DrewWell, we can make people sleep, but we can't store sleep.
6:44🔗AdamWell, you can drug them up. But wouldn't it be nice if you just really just needed to sleep four hours a night?
6:50🔗DrewSleep is still basically a mystery. Why do we need to sleep? What is happening? It's clearly something we need.
6:56🔗AdamYeah, but wouldn't it be awesome? And especially for guys like you and I who have crazy schedules and I always feel like I'm dragging around and everybody in this society.
7:06🔗AdamWouldn't it be nice just to hook yourself up to a little mask, or put some earphones on with a little rhythmic, some sort of thump sound that did some sort of thing, that got your cerebellum that they put in.
7:21🔗DrewThey're trying lots of that kind of thing, but it's such a delicate chemistry. We're long, long off that.
7:28🔗AdamI just mean if we could do four hours a night with the headphones and the mask, or if we could do the bank it. Man, like a squirrel with its acorns. Well, I only get to sleep two hours the next time? Good. I'm going to bank an extra two tonight. I'll use that tomorrow. Nothing, nothing, nothing after the greatest night's sleep the night before.
8:11🔗AdamI came up with the Recycl-A-Rolla. This is a recycling chute for people's houses. Boom, you throw the bottle in, boom, it goes right into the recycling can. You know what I did today? I was working on the house for this TLC show, and I bought all my mirrors and I was swinging them like closet doors.
8:28🔗DrewWell, I got the number for you for the TV.
8:30🔗AdamAll right. We'll talk off the air. Here's my point. I also invented a thing where instead of using the bi-folding louvered doors as crappy closet doors, they're the ones that slide with the gold anodized thing. I hate them. Hate them. Just want to go gay on you for a second. Yeah, you know, you have a closet. It's a nice four, six foot opening. It's a stupid, cheap sliding doors and everything. Okay, here's what I do. Do you know what I do?
8:59🔗AdamI go over to the framing store and I order a nice big mirror. Just order whatever frame you want, beveled, whatever you want, whatever size you want. I order two of them. For the opening, I swing them like a door. Nice big full length mirrors swing and they look elegant. You get the nice frame about it. Okay, that's another invention that I've come up with. You, what have you done for sleep? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nada. Zero. Tony?
9:33🔗AdamForget about that. Don't digress. I innovate in my field with the Recycl-A-Rolla, with the closet doors, with the heated sofa. What do you got? Nothing. Tanya?
9:55🔗I have a friend who talks about how wild and crazy and freaky he used to be. And he'd go to the strip clubs all the time and spend over $300 worth. And then, so I'm kind of on that side too. So I'm all excited. And then when it comes to me, it's like he acts like he's 60 years old. I'll probably get sex probably once a month and that's okay with him. I can't live like that. I can't. I just want to know what's wrong with him.
10:37🔗I'm 25. He used to play football professionally. I guess maybe he's on the downside of that. I don't know. It drives me up a lot.
10:49🔗DrewWell, maybe he took steroids when he was playing in the NFL. Is that the deal? I have professional athletes, not pointing fingers, commonly use steroids. When they come off, it shuts things down.
11:16🔗He talks like it's just, oh, I'm just, and I'm like, okay, put your money in my mouth. I can strip too. I mean, I'm in shape. I don't get it.
11:23🔗DrewYeah. But your stripping is a different issue.
11:25🔗AdamI have a listen. Tanya, here's the thing. If you've been with a guy for only a year and you're not living together and you're both young and he's good for once a month.
11:34🔗DrewHe's doing something with somebody else, the words may.
11:36🔗AdamThat's possible, but either he's very depressed or this thing is winding down.
11:41🔗DrewHe's either not the boyfriend. But keep in mind the possibility that he may be, as you say, on the downside of having been in the NFL.
11:50🔗AdamWell, he didn't necessarily play in the NFL.
12:04🔗AdamWell, there you go. Tanya, I know you're frustrated and you think, well, what's up? He talks a good game and all that stuff. I think you need to have a discussion about where you guys are going. You've been together for a year, you're not living together. Are you planning on getting married?
12:56🔗AdamNo, bring it up. No, Tonya, here's what you don't. But don't get into that. I'll strip or what's wrong with you or why aren't you into me or you talk a good game, but you got no game. All that stuff. Leave all that aside. Say, look, I love you. We've been together for a year. We're looking at moving forward. We're looking at getting serious. We're looking at getting married. But I don't want to get married until we resolve this issue.
13:19🔗DrewYeah. But why don't you get no play, playa? And do you have a medical problem?
13:23🔗DrewDo you have a medical problem or is this relationship really what you want it to be?
13:26🔗AdamIs there something you need for me or do you need to get an evaluation? I want to help you. Don't shame him. Don't intimidate him. Just work with him.
13:34🔗DrewThis stuff is treatable too, the residual effects of steroids.
13:53🔗From the time I was 16 to the time I was 18, I was with this guy. When I was 17, I guess you would have to call it right because we were fooling around. I said I didn't want to go any further. He went further anyway. When I was like, Al, stop. This isn't what I want. He's like, well, you don't have anything to do now. But I stayed with him for a while.
14:14🔗I was a virgin when we were together. Then I wanted to stay that way for a while, but we were fooling around and he took it further. When I told him to stop, he's like, why? You're not a virgin anymore anyway. Now it doesn't matter. That was the whole thing, his whole thing. But we stayed together.
14:41🔗I told him I didn't want to have intercourse. We were just fooling around and it was imposed upon me.
14:49🔗AdamYou got to understand though, Kelly, there's a Hyman math here that's a little bit hard to decipher. Because when you say, I was a virgin and then he started raping me and I told him to stop and he said, doesn't matter, you're not a virgin anymore. He was having sex with you at that time. Yeah. Right. Okay. What were you doing before you got to the raping part?
15:11🔗We were just kind of, I mean, before the whole enforcement thing happened, we were just fooling around, hand job, oral, that sort of thing. I mean, I was virgin on a technicality. I just didn't want to, I wasn't ready to go that far.
15:24🔗AdamHold on a second. You know, one thing, here's the deal, everybody. There's just the leap for guys, especially guys who, guys who are like outboard motors.
16:06🔗AdamI just did, yeah. See, it's an act of violence. That's rape. Here's my point. Back in the day, you would be fooling around with somebody. The hand would grab a boob outside the sweater. You make that honk, honk, make that honking sound. And then she'd say, like, I'm not that kind of girl. And then you'd stop or you would get raped. Right. Now you're 69 in a guy in a parking lot. And he raped me. You know what I mean? I mean, it's like you're blowing a guy and that's cool. But now he raped me all. Look, he should stop whenever you say stop. But when your mouth is on his penis for your own edification, right, as everyone listening, ladies, listen, when a guy has his penis in your mouth and the guy's 18 and the guy's had three Mickey's big mouths, you guys don't have any clothes on and everyone's naked and you say stop, he's going to have most guys will have a lot of trouble with stopping, not saying it's right, biologically saying it is a boulder that got rolling down a hill and you're now trying to jump in front of it. Yes.
17:21🔗DrewYes, everything. But it's hard to imagine how. As a man of passion and even a doctor, Drew, it's shocking that women can't appreciate that and they need to get not put themselves in those situations if that's what they do.
17:33🔗AdamDo not give the guy oral and then expect him to stop.
17:38🔗DrewWell, the oral thing, that's one thing, but to be naked with a guy.
17:41🔗AdamI mean, yeah. Don't get naked and perform oral and expect to stop at your part.
17:47🔗DrewBecause that's really all that stops guys, the clothing.
18:19🔗AdamBut anyway, after you were done blowing him, he raped you.
18:25🔗Pretty much. I mean, it wasn't violent. It was just unpleasant and unasked for.
18:29🔗AdamHe didn't, yes, he should have stopped when you said stop.
18:33🔗We have the understanding before we ever started blowing around that I didn't want to go that far, but that's not what my problem is. It's not like he stuffed a pillow in my mouth and held me down or anything. It wasn't violent.
18:45🔗DrewHad you even victimized at any other time in your life prior to that?
18:49🔗AdamNo. Now, what's the problem or the question?
18:54🔗Well, we broke up over something completely unrelated to that incident, but I always held a grudge against him for it. And after we broke up, I still was like, we were still hanging out. It was amicable. And then he kept trying to reengage in a relationship with me. And I'll just out of nowhere, I really don't want to be in a relationship with him. It's gotten to the point that I don't even like him as a person.
20:08🔗I was five years old, but we were in the car and we stopped at some train tracks and some guy just jumped out in front of a train. My mom was a medic in the military and then she was there. Of course, she jumped out to go see if she could render aid, which was silly of her. Then I followed being five years old. That's, yeah, that was fun.
20:37🔗My dad is also very wonderful and supportive person.
20:39🔗AdamOkay. I'm going to yell at Drew. Look, Drew, here's what happened. A, she has an attraction to the guy. She's been with him for a few years. B, she's returning to the scene of the crime a little bit. She feels, you ever watch these stupid ghost movies, and it's always like, well, why can't the ghost leave because he's not free?
20:57🔗AdamHe's got unfinished business. His life was, he was taken, so he's staying and he stays in the house. I like the way everyone buys into that crap.
21:04🔗AdamWhat happens when you die? Well, you go off somewhere else. Well, why are ghosts staying here? Because they have unfinished business here. But that's what she is. She's haunting this guy, Scrotum.
21:14🔗DrewThere is no doubt that people do that. Yeah.
21:18🔗DrewAbsolutely. But they do it characteristically when it's a second trauma after something earlier. But okay.
21:22🔗AdamYes, true. But this isn't an all out whatever, because this wasn't an all out rape, and this was a boyfriend, and she's damn vivid and that creates attraction in a lot of women.
21:32🔗DrewYes, it does. People think of it in terms of trying to make something right that it feels really wrong and bad. That's one way to think of it. I'm not sure that even to try to make rational, to make reason out of human behavior, sometimes a huge mistake.
21:48🔗DrewAnd go ahead and stop. It's not a good thing. It's very unhealthy. It will drive you into a feeling of low, low self-esteem and disgust.
21:53🔗AdamYou know, the guys who get laid the most, evoke some sort of unfinished business, slash hatred, slash I've got to go back and fix something. I've got to control it, you know. That's why I never got laid. My thing was always, hey, how about Adam Corolla?
22:21🔗AdamWhat's he doing? Yeah, that's right. What you want is, I've got to get through to him, man. He's a Rubik's Cube, man. I've got to get those colors to line up. If I could do one more try, I could fix everything.
22:34🔗DrewNow, I don't want people to say that we made any issue of this rape incident.
22:44🔗DrewNot as well, look. She by herself says not horrible, but I want to make the point strongly that, yeah, it's bad for a guy. No means no, period. That's the end of the story, but please ladies, please understand the male biology and to stay out of its way.
22:57🔗AdamYeah, I think rape is a good thing. Now, that was completely out of content.
23:03🔗DrewWell, I know we just did that, but rape is a violent crime. I'm a rapist. No, rape is a violent crime.
23:09🔗AdamIt's a violent crime. It is. It's not a sexual crime.
23:27🔗AdamBut violent, like any other violent crime.
23:29🔗DrewIt's like if you walked in a liquor store, pistol whipped the guy. And ejaculated.
23:33🔗AdamWell, I'd say more like, you remember, like an angry mob. Like an angry mob. Remember during the race riots when they pulled Reginald Denny out of his truck?
23:58🔗AdamNo. No, because it's violent. Nothing sexual about it. For him, it's violence where you come. It's blood in a pool of semen. It's basically what it is, Drew. I'm glad we've gotten this straightened out. All right, where are we? Does anyone bring that crap up anymore? It's not a sexual crime, it's a violent crime?
24:24🔗AdamThat's their thing. That's why they do it.
24:26🔗DrewYeah, that's why they do it. To get to that thing.
24:28🔗AdamTo have the orgasm. It doesn't make them right.
24:30🔗DrewNo, it doesn't make it not violent, aggressive. It's an aggressive act, but it's sexual. That means no mistake.
24:35🔗AdamIt's sexual because the penis is in somebody.
24:38🔗DrewAnd there's something coming out of the penis.
24:39🔗AdamThank you. All right. Call me a stickler for details, but to me, when semen is shooting out of your penis, I'm going to go ahead and call that a sexual crime.
25:19🔗DrewThat would make it all clear to you then?
25:20🔗AdamOh, well, yes, it would. Well, no, I said an-a-N-I-M-E. If you put the-you put the oom-lots over there, I'm good. You put the accent over the e. Yeah. Put that over there. Yeah. Like-like Esty.
25:37🔗AdamCome on. Hothorn Heights going to be in here in a couple of few. Fresh off their triumphant rocking of the Jimmy Kimmel Live audience. We'll be right back after this.
26:24🔗AdamHey, everybody, it's Love Line, man. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191er. Thorne Heights in studio tonight, fresh off of Rockin. Jimmy Kimmel Live, JT Woodruff is here. Well, that's a name. I'll tell you, JT Woodruff. JT Woodruff.
26:42🔗DrewSounds like the Secretary of State under Buchanan.
26:46🔗AdamYeah, he could do that. Or guy who played some free safety for Oklahoma in the 70s. Not the speed, but this guy hit. Oh, he was a...
26:55🔗DrewTreasury tech, Secretary for Rutherford B. Hayes.
26:59🔗AdamNo, I'm still on football. Best special teams player of the year in the Pine Drift. This guy, like I said, not the flat out speed, not the 100 speed, but a good quick first step and this guy would bust a wedge.
27:11🔗DrewEither Raiders uniform or Steelers uniform.
27:14🔗AdamHe couldn't play pro. He couldn't play pro. He didn't have the wheels to play in the pro league. No, he had decent size. He just didn't have the wheels. He just couldn't play back then. But I'll tell you, this guy hit. This guy hit. It was a team player.
27:27🔗DrewAll it took back then was that drive, that heart.
27:29🔗AdamBust a wedge going down on special teams. You know what I mean? Use his body like he would just- Spear.
27:40🔗AdamHe would hurl himself. And then he got a lot of spearing calls. Yeah, hit him at the top of the helmet. Yeah, reckless abandon this guy played with. Great player, JT, big fan. Welcome to the show buddy.
28:11🔗AdamOklahoma. Well, we got Casey Calvert back there. We got JT Woodruff too. Outstanding DBs in the Pioneer League. These two, boy, you'll know when they hit you. I'll tell you what. Yeah. How about that?
29:07🔗AdamAll right. Well, we've covered that then. I've decided what you guys should have been doing. Not bad rock star names, I got to say, but better 70s college football player name. Hawthorne Heights is from the... Where are you guys from? Ohio. Yeah. In this first CD and you going out on the Warped Tour. You just got off the Warped Tour. Sorry.
30:01🔗AdamNo, Detroit should be in New Jersey or something. You know what I mean? Detroit, when you think Detroit, you don't think Great Lakes. You know what I mean? As much as you guys know from looking at maps, I'm telling you, I got a fresh mind. I don't know anything. Cleveland and Detroit don't seem like Ohio and Michigan. They seem like they should move toward the East.
30:32🔗AdamLet's get rid of them. You guys go back to playing ball. We'll be coaching now. That's your alma mater now. DB coach, special teams coach. So you guys played Kimmel tonight and they were saying Vivica A. Fox was on the show and she stormed out.
31:27🔗AdamYeah. He's not a big fan of Star Jones, and he shouldn't be a big fan of Star Jones, because Star Jones just seems like a narcissistic lunatic. I know there's that thing where it's like, oh, don't-
31:40🔗DrewThat's a very popular way to be these days, Adam. I mean, we'll go through the dial a couple of times.
31:44🔗AdamShe was talking about her wedding for 22 years before it actually went down. It just- See, here's my whole thing. I don't know what it is, but I believe when you get married, you should invite your friends and your family and you should shut the F up about it.
31:59🔗AdamYou shouldn't be waving your ring around everyone. You shouldn't have your cake decorators do the first segment on your TV show. It's always weird to me when people are doing something and then calling attention to it.
32:15🔗DrewBy the way, shouldn't that be the death knell of your program that you have nothing else to talk about, but your cake decorators?
32:20🔗AdamAnd it makes you wonder about whoever it is who married the crazy broad, which is my first mandate would be, look honey, you're 310 pounds. I don't need a lot of S at the office. Let's be real stealthy about this. You know what I mean? I don't even want to wear rings. You keep your original name, it'll be nice and cool. Copacetic, two bedrooms, mum's the word, Bob's your uncle. Let's keep moving. You know what I mean? I don't want you broadcasting it, literally every single morning for the six months leading up to the nuptials. It just seems crazy.
32:54🔗DrewBut then it becomes acceptable television.
32:59🔗AdamThen it's like you turn on entertainment tonight, it's like we're at the Britney Spears wedding baby shower, and they're there, and the camera is going, and it's weird when it's personal stuff like kids, babies, weddings, and you've invited the entire camera crews, and Entertainment Tonight, and people, and us is covering it. This seems so narcissistic and invasive and stuff. Shouldn't you hate that? Intrusive? All right. So I'm with Jimmy. I don't even know who she is.
35:02🔗AdamYeah. If we want, we could call engineer Chris up and have- Oh no, that's right. He was only here for nine months when we did that, never figured out how to work that goddamn card machine.
35:15🔗AdamSo wait. Let me give a little plug to Hawthorne Heights. The band is heading out on their North American tour and they're going to the UK through.
35:31🔗AdamNo. University of Kentucky is where it should be. They're going out on a UK tour and we'll hear something off the CD and all that stuff. All right? We cool? Sorry we just talked about Star Jones for the first 20 minutes.
35:44🔗GuestWe at least have some context to the controversy we were a part of.
35:48🔗AdamYeah. They're going to be on Kimmel tonight, so watch that. As a matter of fact, you can watch my show Too Late with Adam Corolla on Comedy Central.
35:57🔗AdamWith the sound down. You listen to this show. Then you switch on over to Kimmel. You watch The Uncomfortable Silence with Vivica A. Fox, and then you watch Hawthorne Heights.
36:51🔗CallerYeah, I have this crazy obsession with anime porn and it's getting out of control. I've literally been late for work, trying to get that last 10 or 15 minutes in just watching it because that's the only way I can get off.
37:05🔗AdamDrew. Wow, it's you. The blacks with their obsession, the young blacks with their obsession with the Japanese anime. It's now epidemic levels now. They just love Speed Racer, Kimba.
37:17🔗DrewThey love it all. How long have you been into it? Since you were 15, it says here?
37:20🔗CallerYeah. It's just better than regular porn to me. The people look perfect. You don't have to see any ugly faces, nice bodies or vice versa. There's a story line. It's just cool.
37:32🔗DrewWell, the story, women like the story. So I guess it's geared more towards female.
38:06🔗CallerYeah, that's the problem. I had a fiancé, and I couldn't get off with him. He would do oral on me, and I couldn't get off because I was so used to masturbating to anime porn. He opened up the X-Files telling me how his ex loves it when they do it. It's just really bad.
38:37🔗AdamHe got drunk and fought it. Vibrator kicked his ass literally right in the ass.
38:42🔗DrewLiterally. You need a guy that doesn't get so upset by that. Maybe you can wean yourself off the vibrator. Now, I need to know more about your history.
38:49🔗AdamBut here's the whole thing. The thing about a vibrator for a guy is it's like a gun. It could be your worst nightmare or it can be your best friend. It's just whose hands is it in? You know what I mean? You don't have to-
39:08🔗AdamIt doesn't have to be a club you're getting beat over the head with.
39:11🔗DrewLisa needs a passionate guy that's willing to do that. But here's Lisa. We need to know a little bit about your history to know if this really is a problem or not. Do you have any sexual abuse when you're growing up?
39:20🔗CallerI wasn't subjected to sexual abuse, but I did see my sister when I was about six or seven. I saw her get sexually abused or murdered.
39:42🔗AdamHold on a second. Don't hang up on Lisa. We got to put her on hold. You know, I have this horribly racist thought, but the blacks, everyone's-
39:56🔗AdamHere's what I want to know. You tell me how it's mathematically possible for an entire race to be raised by their aunts. How does that work? Do they have some sort of child exchange program? Where if they're two sisters and they both have three kids, you just raise my three kids, I'll raise your three kids, that way we're covered, everyone gets raised by their aunt?
40:13🔗DrewNo, I think there's sort of a ladder. You move up, you like roll over that bed game, somebody falls out of bed. One person doesn't have kids.
40:20🔗AdamAll right, I'm just saying, how is it mathematically possible for everybody to be raised by their aunt?
40:26🔗DrewAll that has to happen is one person's a total F-up and one person doesn't have kids. And then it rolls up.
40:30🔗AdamWho doesn't have kids? That's what I'm saying. What, you think there's some 30-year-old black chick that doesn't have kids? No, they exchange, Drew. Do the math. Oh, well whose math makes more sense? Thank you. You know I'm right. No, I just think they exchange. I think that's how it works. I think, you know, I'll crap out a few kids. I'll give them to my sister. My sister will give them her kids to me and everyone will be raised by their aunt.
41:04🔗AdamAll right, Hawthorne Heights in the studio tonight. Lisa, don't hang up. I want to get back to this tragic story. And we'll get to that after this. Hey, buddy, it's Love Line, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LLVE-191, Hawthorne Heights, in studio tonight. The silence of black and white, name of the CD. JT Woodruff, one of the hardest-hitting free safeties in The Big Eight is here representing in Casey Calvert. Casey, like I said, great up man, not the wheels you'd like, not the moves, you'd north and south type runner, good solid punt returner. 26 games in the Pioneer League, never lost a ball, never muffed a punt. 27, I'm sorry, games in the Pioneer League, never called for a fair catch, never muffed one fumble.
42:55🔗CallerWell, I was about six or seven and she wasn't brutally murdered, but she was tortured pretty bad, which wasn't a big surprise to me because we were all abused very bad, but I wasn't.
43:22🔗CallerWell, I found out when I was 14 that she was raped when she had me, like walking home or something. She was always a promiscuous lady, but she was raped and she was going to not have me. So my auntie stepped in and was like, you know, I don't want to go through having another child. Just give her to me. And until I was 14, I was in a foster home and that's when they told me that that's not my mother.
44:03🔗AdamI don't judge, but you Jews. Jew or Asian, I don't know which one you are, but you guys, Drew, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to...
44:12🔗DrewLisa, why was the auntie torturing your sister?
44:16🔗CallerShe was just a sick person. I mean, I remember her chaining... See, there was a thing, I guess, and my older auntie told me this, that she thought she could be reborn with me, turn into a new person. That's why I was spoiled. I got everything I wanted, beauty pads, all that. A good little girl, I had everything, but I remember them being chained up in closets, having to eat their own fishies.
44:37🔗DrewOh my God. Lisa sounds like a sober Macy Gray.
44:41🔗CallerIt was actually a case about it. I really don't want to get into it, but it was... Oh my God, my boyfriend makes me cum too much.
44:55🔗CallerNo, no, not the broomstick. They gave her something. They gave her something in a drink and she just passed out, and I thought she was asleep. I witnessed the whole thing.
45:03🔗DrewWow. All right, Lisa. Then here's what starts to happen when kids are-
45:12🔗AdamNo, you sound good. I believe everything happens for a reason.
45:15🔗DrewYou sound amazing, and it's amazing that you survived all this. But the reality is, seeing all that extraordinarily traumatic stuff at a young age changes how your brain develops. It can make you very compulsed around things like sexuality, or drugs and alcohol, or even extreme activities of various types. Almost as though you can't experience things unless you have them extremely intensely before you. Sexual addictions is something that can definitely grow out of this. You may want to look into this. In fact, in Torrance, there's a Delamo Treatment Center that's specifically there for sexual addictions.
45:51🔗AdamWhat's in Delamo? Torrance Treatment Center?
47:19🔗AdamYeah. Well, it is because you can't tell anyone what to do in the society unless it's me wanting to put an edition on my garage. Then you can tell me anything you want. I just got a goddamn letter from the city telling me like front fence was too high, and the side fence was too, had to come down to three and a half feet. That's fine. You're on your 11th illegitimate kid, you can't say ass. All right. Drew, and by the way, I got to show you this letter because we're going to have a Waco-type standoff in a little while.
47:55🔗AdamScrew that. Screw the man. That's Hawthorne Heights here, everybody. Take a look out. The Delamo Heights is going to open for you. Go find out where Delamo is.
48:06🔗AdamI swear there's a Delamo. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.
48:58🔗DrewGet It On. I love Kizzy. It's always like my Kizer. It's always like one Zoom, one Z, one Zoom, Zoom Z. See? Yeah. Yeah. I've done that three years.
49:10🔗AdamMaybe five. See, you got the music in you. You understand?
49:32🔗AdamYeah, except for I forgot to read this for the first time. Party pack, here's the thing about me forgetting to do stuff. When I don't get paid, my memory's not so good.
49:41🔗AdamThat's funny how that works. Know what I mean? I rarely forget to go to work, but I do forget certain appointments, certain dates, certain things like that, where I'm not getting paid.
50:00🔗AdamThat's right. The party pack includes CDs, poker set, money, and of course, some Durex condoms. Each week, we will decide the best caller of the night.
50:13🔗AdamWe will decide the best caller of the night, and we'll award them the party pack. Got to be 18 years of age or older. Brought to you by Durex. There's sex, and then there's Durex. All right.
50:43🔗AdamSilence of Black and White. Oh, Ohio is for lovers. All right, we queued up right around. This is Ohio is for lovers. Yeah. Hawthorne Heights, everybody.
55:05🔗GuestThat's what you guys found was a baby Ruth bar.
55:07🔗AdamWe found food. Yeah. I said to Drew, let's go back to the broadcast room. Let's go back to the studio this way. And Drew said, no, let's go this way. We'll find food.
55:17🔗AdamAnd we found food. Because if you go through the sales office, you'll find boxes of stuff. Like that's the whole thing. Like if there's ever the nuclear holocaust or something, that's where we'll have to go. We'll live off Pepsi Free, Coke Zero, and baby Ruth bars.
55:33🔗DrewCoke Zero, Coke Zero, and baby Ruth, we know we got those back there all the time.
56:05🔗AdamBut you would walk a quarter mile and get a warm Coke as opposed to walk over the vending machine and drop 55 cents.
56:13🔗GuestThat's exactly how I am. I'll take the free stuff anytime no matter what.
56:16🔗DrewSomething just truly visceral satisfying about that.
56:19🔗AdamThere is. I believe that's why. Well, it's one reason why Americans are probably fat is because there's freebies. Well, you know, you go to the. Here's the thing. If you go to a buffet and you just make take one moderate serving and sit down and leave, you feel like you got ripped off.
56:37🔗DrewYeah, definitely. Have you ever just walk anywhere in this country and you see the stimulation of all the different high carb food, high sugar food, high fat food?
56:47🔗AdamIt is. Well, I mean, you look at it this way. What is the big difference, if any at all, between your need to eat and F? You know what I mean? Now, if you walk everywhere and you're being bombarded with pornography, you're going to get a boner and you're going to want to do something with it. Is there a big difference? I mean, you drive, I don't know what the average person, as far as billboards go, but you pass a bunch of McDonald's and KFC and Taco Bell and all that stuff. And after about three miles, you're like, I got to stop somewhere and eat something. Yeah. What if that was just naked chicks? I guess it's that way at the airport actually.
57:26🔗DrewBut the only thing is you wouldn't stop.
57:29🔗DrewYou just do your thing right there in the car. Yeah.
57:31🔗AdamAnd I'd use one of the wet wipes that the Colonel gave me. I'd actually just poke my dung through the box with the chicken came in. Makes a handy... Dung. Yeah. It's a nice receptacle. And a little of that grease. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Extra gooey. Okay. Megan?
58:11🔗CallerAnd the latest avenue to find those one night stands has been the online matchmaking sites. And that's a great way... I guess not many women want to have just one night stands. You know, so when I connect with these people, you know, the guys are like, yeah, definitely, you know, college like that.
58:31🔗AdamYeah. No, they don't go, yeah, definitely. Are you a dude? You got your junk cut off? Okay, you cop. Let's get a ton of that. It's not like, oh, you're hot. Let's get on. I mean, you gotta have the skepticism of the online, you know, purveyor of sex. Yes. You have a lot of guys asking questions?
58:50🔗CallerNo, nobody ever really ever asked. You know, we exchange a few e-mails and then we talk on the phone a little bit. And then we just meet somewhere neutral. And we're like, all right, hey, whose place do you want to go to?
59:00🔗AdamYou know what I do, Drew? When I made it, you know, 5C, like I'm cruising online and there's some chick like me. She's like, yeah, I'm 27. I'm hot. I just got done with my boyfriend looking for, you know, one night stand, no strings attached. I'm like, this is a dude, right? Right. Of course. And she's like, no, I'm a hot chick. And I'm like, okay, name two countries involved with World War II. I don't know. Okay, we're in. That's how you know. That's how you know she's a chick. You don't know anything about World War II.
59:30🔗DrewI'm just a little bit sort of perplexed by all this. Megan, do you ever find you're not attracted to the guy or don't want to have sex with one of these meetings?
1:01:43🔗DrewAnd how many times have you done it overall between these longer term relationships?
1:01:52🔗CallerOh, just since- Well, too, like I broke up with my high school boyfriend. I was promiscuous and I had a six-year relationship, and then I was promiscuous, and now this month ended, and now there's more promiscuity.
1:02:03🔗DrewAnd by promiscuity, you do this 10 or 12 times? You do it 100 times?
1:02:07🔗CallerNo, I've met 10 or- I've met 12 individuals in about a six-month period online.
1:02:14🔗DrewMegan, but is that typical for your interim experience between relationships?
1:02:18🔗CallerOh, okay. Yeah, that sounds about average.
1:02:20🔗DrewAll right. And it's usually about six months before you get in a relationship again?
1:02:25🔗DrewAll right. And provided that there was no trauma like sexual abuse or physical abuse, it just sounds like you are panicked to be alone. You were in a complete and total panic.
1:02:35🔗CallerWell, you know, and I think that might be a little inaccurate. I do live alone. I enjoy living alone.
1:03:21🔗CallerThe only thing I can think of, both my parents worked at night. My mother went back to school when I was 12, and I helped raise my little sisters.
1:03:32🔗CallerI felt very loved, and I knew my parents loved me, but I didn't see them a lot.
1:03:35🔗AdamAll right. You're a little bit of a loner.
1:03:39🔗DrewYeah. But here's the deal. I get the sense that, yes, you're comfortable being alone because you're used to being alone, but you're in a panic about being alone. You only know how to make human contact in a surgical strike.
1:03:50🔗DrewGo ahead and get it and get back from it because- Yeah. God knows if you actually have a relationship, it's going to leave. Then somehow you overcome that somehow with your relationship, you are able to have them. So it's a funny situation, Megan.
1:04:04🔗CallerI don't have abandonment issues when I'm in relationships. I feel very-
1:04:07🔗DrewNo, I know. That's my point. You have them when you're not.
1:04:10🔗AdamHere's the thing, Megan. You're looking at this as a problem.
1:04:25🔗DrewWell, just get an evaluation, first of all. Have somebody look at it, who really can assess this properly.
1:04:31🔗AdamAnd I would say, you're probably the kind of person that's going to end up getting married, having some kids. This should be a chapter of your life that remains your own.
1:05:18🔗DrewIt's a non-integrated experience. It's the sort of part of yourself needing gratification in that moment and then going back into your isolation mode.
1:05:26🔗AdamHere's what you need. You need a bong in the game show network. You're not going to be meeting any Johns-
1:06:17🔗Adam44. All right, baby. Just checking your stuff. All right. Get some help. You're in the medical field.
1:06:26🔗DrewYeah. Here's the deal. Of course, you might check out the book Drama, The Gifted Child. As you know, people that are caretakers have trauma histories of various types, often tender and difficult to get your hands on. Certainly, without professional help, it's almost impossible. In order to be effective in your job, that's the book cracked I wrote about. It's very difficult if you don't have good boundaries and a good sense of your own self.
1:06:46🔗AdamYeah. I remember the speech very quickly, very clearly, I should say. December 7th, 1944. A day that will live in infamy, although it will be screwed up by a lot of chicks who's really not that interested in war.
1:07:12🔗AdamBut not chicks. Not even educated ones. Women hate war so much, they refuse to know anything about it.
1:07:20🔗DrewThey're going to get angry that you're interested in it. The History Channel, I think my wife is going to throw stuff at the TV when I put that on.
1:07:26🔗AdamYeah. You know what it is. Here's the other thing too. They treat war like they treat World War I, World War II, not as if it was a historical event, but it's some-
1:07:39🔗AdamSome, not even a mishap, it's just another one of your hobbies that they have no interest in.
1:07:44🔗GuestBoring movies. They don't want to watch the films about it or the channels about it. Yeah.
1:07:49🔗AdamThey look at it like, well, look, it's rotisserie football. No, I don't know what Randy Moss' stats were last year, but you have no idea what the difference between acrylic nails and a French tip is. You know what I mean? It's like, no, no, this is a historical event. That's a personal hobby of mine. Yeah?
1:08:14🔗AdamHowthorne Heights here tonight. We will hear something else off the CD and a couple of you take a quick break. Be right back after this. Yeah! Loveline!
1:08:55🔗AdamAdam, that's Dr. Drew. Arthur and Heights, it's due tonight. JT and Casey are both here. The Silence of the Black and White, name of the city. Just explain what a good thing the atomic bomb was for the Japanese. I'm serious. Here's the deal. We dropped a couple of atomic bombs on Japan and killed 100,000, not much more than 100,000 Japanese. That's all. Now, if we would have launched a campaign and actually invaded Japan, first off, we would have had to just drop incendiary bombs on that place for the first month and just torch the entire, all of Japan. We'd just burn it to the ground. Then the Marines would have went in there and just slaughtered everybody. It would have been millions dead. So, good thing. Yeah. They could have given up. They could have. They didn't do it. So we dropped another one. Still a good thing. Because we saved lives. We saved lives. Hey, 100,000 versus a couple million. Do the math. All right.
1:09:58🔗DrewWell, explain what you're saying about the island campaigns.
1:10:01🔗AdamI was just saying that these guys fought to the death in the islands that we tried to get to islands. They were outside of Japan, so we could make air bases, so we could bomb Japan. It was all about torching Japan and getting the range for bombers to get close enough to Japan, so we could start torching Japan with a bombing campaign. And these guys fought to the death on those islands that weren't even their islands. Know what I mean?
1:10:25🔗DrewBecause they believed that we were like...
1:10:27🔗AdamThey believed that we would do to them what they would have done to us, which is just rape all the women and enslave all the guys and torture everyone and start death camps. That's what they did. So we bombed their asses. That's how it goes. Don't F with the biggest guy on the block. You're going to get torched. That's it. You shouldn't have bombed Pearl Harbor in 1944. But you did. And we built a time machine and went back three years. And we bombed your ass. Anyone know something? They were working on atomic bombs. And you know what? They would have dropped it on New York in a heartbeat if they had a chance. Of course they would have. Of course they would have. You don't think they would have?
1:11:08🔗AdamIn a heartbeat. TS baby. All you pussies who don't think that was a favor we did for them, go back over there. Go over there and be with your brothers. Wisdom of the Orient. Kiss my ass. Christa? Yeah? Tired of this country apologizing for everything. Let me tell you something. We had prisoners of war. We kept them as prisoners. We got a couple of guys over at Abu Ghraib. What's the big deal? A female interrogator showed her his bra strap and then took the Quran and dropped it on the ground. These guys had death marches. You understand? They made mass graves, mowed people with machine guns and threw them into mass graves. They killed millions of people. That's what they did. A bra strap? Talking about the Japanese. You want to get into the Nazis? What they did? What do we do? What do we do? We just keep people, we feed them, we let them go. There were such pussies in this country, you know what I mean? You know, all the guys in the Baton Death March, you think they would have died to go to Abu Ghraib? Would have been a luxury hotel for them. Here's your prayer mat, here's your three hots, there's your cot, Mecca's that way, by the way. Relax, speak in your tongue. Now, instead, you're just going to walk through a baton, 50,000, you would die walking to a work camp. Fantastic, everybody. Great people. Awesome. They didn't deserve that bomb. Hell yeah, they deserve that bomb. Of course they did. Krista?
1:12:59🔗CallerI don't know why because nothing bad has ever happened to me.
1:13:03🔗DrewWell, usually it's because you were beat up a little bit growing up. Do you ever have a prong illness or anything like that when you're growing up?
1:14:22🔗AdamBad news. She can't play. All right. What kind of violence do you enjoy? What kind of pain do you enjoy when you're having sex?
1:14:31🔗CallerWell, I'm really submissive and I just like being choked and slapped, and my hair pulled and stuff like that. I thought it was normal to like that. Then she was like, you're weird.
1:14:40🔗DrewWhat's the point of real pain or just as a playful thing?
1:14:45🔗CallerNot like if they choke me until I blacked out, I'd probably freak out. But I don't know. I love tattoos and piercings. When I get them, it's sexual.
1:16:02🔗AdamA little out of control. Swept away. What do you call that, Drew? You usually call it something.
1:16:06🔗DrewSo she used it submissive, passive or-
1:16:08🔗AdamYeah. It's like the man is driving in bed.
1:16:13🔗DrewWell, you know what I've said to you before is that if they feel like their sexuality is sort of bad or dirty, if somebody sort of makes it that they have to be sexual, they're no longer expressing a part of themselves they're in control of, and it's okay then. It's permitted.
1:16:27🔗AdamSo most women, even healthy women, enjoy little tug on the hair, little slap on the ass, and whose daddy know you love a bitch. Right? Yeah? Yeah. Okay. So with that in mind, isn't it possible that there's just a certain percentage that like it a step further without any history of abuse?
1:17:22🔗DrewWell, it's not the problem. It's not the addiction so much as the speed and stimulus in one of the drugs that do change your brain chemistry. One of the things that could be happening is she needs arousal to feel sexual. She needs those arousal system that amygdala function is off. Using anything else besides speed now?
1:17:50🔗DrewWhy don't you ask her about that? Because that would bring this all a little more into focus. Because alcoholic behavior can go down this path.
1:17:56🔗AdamWhat did your mom tell you about your biological father?
1:17:59🔗CallerShe told me his name was John and that's pretty much it.
1:18:03🔗GuestWhy bother with him telling you his name is John? That gives you nothing.
1:18:09🔗DrewDid you have a million questions for her when you were growing up? I'm sure. I guarantee you she had long talks about it.
1:18:19🔗DrewYeah, but listen, a five year old girl is going, who's my dad? Why don't I have a dad? Who was he? Why did you leave him? What was he like? What was he like? Of course those questions were asked. Of course.
1:18:29🔗CallerBut my sister didn't know her dad either. And he's different than mine. And she didn't tell her anything either.
1:19:23🔗DrewThis is starting to add up a little bit.
1:19:25🔗AdamThere you go. Yeah, how about you take care of yourself. Let's please not get pregnant because I guarantee when you do, your son or daughter will not know their dad. One syllable name of their father.
1:19:58🔗AdamI believe I was submissive. I was a submissive.
1:20:01🔗DrewWell, as you know, everything happens for a reason.
1:20:05🔗GuestI don't get the choking. A little nibble here and there, maybe it's smack on the butt like Adam said. Literally choking? Come on.
1:20:13🔗AdamI would start believing in reincarnation if people didn't get into that crap or they were nobility or they were proud warriors or whatever. What happened? Trick went bad.
1:20:35🔗AdamJohn came in and just choked life out of me. He was in me. I think I was a chick though. I'm hoping I was.
1:20:43🔗DrewAt least that's how I recall it felt like.
1:20:45🔗AdamAnyway, he killed me and then he finished about a half hour later. And they buried me on Mark Griffith. That's the person I believe. OK, now there's this reincarnation. It's true. It exists. All right.
1:21:00🔗DrewAre we going to hear another Hawthorne Heights song?
1:21:09🔗DrewLet's do that with the guys. Because there's been no Germany or Florida, so we got to play a game. These guys are game show network freaks.
1:21:17🔗AdamHere's how Ace's Mexican Ranchero Accordion Countdown works. Ranchero music. You guys are from Ohio.
1:21:26🔗DrewYou never heard the glorious Ranchero.
1:21:28🔗AdamYou did not know the wonderful song stylings of the Ranchero band. If you live out in Southern California, you hear a lot of Ranchero music, a lot of Ranchero stations, a lot of folks driving around with Brahma bold decals on pickup trucks with the windows open because the air conditioning is on the fritz. Playing Ranchero music.
1:21:46🔗AdamStill got to let the neighborhood know where you stand as far as Ranchero goes.
1:21:49🔗GuestHow are the mustaches on these dudes?
1:21:52🔗AdamMega. Not minor. Mega. If you work on enough construction sites as I have in my career, you'll learn to love the Ranchero music. Now, the backbone of Ranchero music is of course the accordion. It's a beautiful melodic music.
1:22:08🔗AdamAwesome. We take a random Ranchero song, we cue it up to a random spot in the song, and we try to guess how many seconds before you hear the accordion. Drew, somebody from a band, I can't remember her name, was Dead Nuts On with Six Seconds.
1:24:07🔗AdamYou know what happened? One of the band members came rushing into rehearsal and said, I've got it. I found an instrument more annoying than the accordion. And everyone's like, that's impossible. We've been annoying white people with these accordions for a thousand years.
1:24:21🔗DrewOh, but listen, the tuba. No, but listen, we've found, discovered through studying the history of rent chair music is the glorious blend of the German beer makers who arrived in Mexico and the indigenous music of Mexico. So the Oompa got blended with the giant guitars.
1:24:41🔗AdamIt's like that Reese's Peanut Butter Cup commercial, except for replace chocolate with ass and replace peanut butter with ass. You understand? Ass and ass. Pow!
1:25:32🔗AdamHe won a Brahma Bowl decal. Yeah. And one knee pad for a set and tie. We'll take ourselves a little break, and we'll be right back after this. That's pretty accurate. Loveline, be right back. Yeah, everybody. Yeah. Get it on. Hacienda Heights in Studio No. You know anyone from Hacienda Heights?
1:26:39🔗AdamI have three. Yeah, you only have three now, Drew. In the studio tonight, we'll hear something off the CD. By the way, the band is going to be on Jimmy Kimmel Live tonight. Watch a big outdoor stage, playing the outdoor summer stage. I know you've arrived. The Silence of Black and White, name of the CD, and my show. Say my show? Jimmy Kimmel Live, too? Oh, Too Late. That will curl on tonight as well. Let's hear something from the band.
1:27:07🔗AdamLet's do that. All right. We queued up. This one's called Nicky FM. Yeah, Hawthorne Heights, not what you call a hard out. You know what I mean?
1:33:33🔗AdamAll right. You give it some more consideration because you could be driving chicks away. Okay. It sounds like a delight. I don't know why the young ladies weren't interested in it.
1:33:43🔗DrewThere's a ton missing from that whole discussion.
1:33:45🔗AdamWhatever. Don't get anyone pregnant. Yeah. Whatever you're doing, stop it.
1:33:53🔗AdamLook in the mirror. That's all you got to know. Everybody, keep getting fired, keep getting Fs, keep getting dumped, keep getting cheated on. Look in the mirror. There's where your answer will lie. Not scrawled in lipstick, just whatever is looking back at you. Okay. Quick break. We'll be right back.
1:34:10🔗GuestAll right, guys, here's the deal. You're looking to hook up, sick of wasting time with the wrong person?
1:35:00🔗AdamThanks, boys, on Jimmy Kimmel Live tonight. And watch Vivica A. Fox. We will take a little extendo break. Andy Milonakis, the possibly young Andy Milonakis in here tonight.
1:35:16🔗AdamAnd until next time, it's Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying Mahalo.
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