10:22🔗VoiceoverLoveline is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content. Listener discretion is advised. This is Loveline. With Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.
10:46🔗VoiceoverYes, it is. Hello there, kiddies. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and an addiction medicine specialist. And tonight, it gives me great pleasure to welcome to the show Tom Burbine. Tom is, I'm going to call an astrophysicist.
11:12🔗AdamI think you get laid faster with that. Okay, astrophysicist. And Tom was one of the two very generous people that donated $15,000 to come on this program to the Tsunami Relief Fund. We went out to dinner with Tom and his lovely boy toy, Kevin.
11:31🔗AdamYeah, I don't think they're dating, but I'm positive they're having sex. And because they followed me out to the station and I couldn't see Tom's head most of the time. I was looking at my rear view. I drove together. Yeah. Kevin had a very satisfied look on his face. It was missing a lot of shifts. So, Tom is an interesting story, but I'll let him tell it on the air. What brought you here, Tom?
11:58🔗Tom BurbineI've been listening to the show for a year since 1999. While I was working on my PhD thesis, I would listen to Loveline-
12:04🔗Tom BurbineAt MIT, I would listen to Loveline from 10 to 12 and write my thesis. So I listened and I was inspired. One of the first episodes I heard was when Pennywise barricaded you in the studio. I thought this is the greatest show. Then I-
12:23🔗AdamWe have a lot of stoned, semi-retarded listeners, well, most all of them. MIT, it's like he goes to school that makes myths, I think is what they think. Explain a little, blow a little air up MIT's ass for a second.
12:39🔗Tom BurbineMIT stands for Massachusetts Institute of Technology. It's the top engineering school. All the sciences are either one or two, usually tied with Harvard or Caltech. I was a planetary science major, so I did research on asteroids.
13:14🔗AdamYou hear that, you know, the good, bad and the ugly wizard? Tom goes for his pocket protector, Gates reaches for a slide rule.
13:26🔗Tom BurbineAnd since everyone was so nerdy there, I was considered one of the cool guys.
13:29🔗AdamNo, you are like the Chuck Heston of nerds.
13:33🔗Tom BurbineYes, yes. I would date the prettiest girls who lived in my dorm. People wanted to hang out with me because I seemed like I was having the fun time.
13:39🔗AdamNo, better, yeah, no, it's better, better to be the starting quarterback of nerds than sort of the third string guy on the football team.
13:49🔗DrewYeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Yes, yes.
13:51🔗AdamIt's like, it's like sometimes when they say, you know, the guy, there's that one guy's everyone, all the other guys are playing like rugby and baseball and this guy takes the ballet class and everyone makes fun of him until they realize it's him and 26 chicks who have eating disorders and low self-esteem and he has to work them out and stuff, it's like, no, wait a minute, genius, smart.
15:41🔗AdamYeah. I may break into the theme at some point tonight too.
15:44🔗Tom BurbineYeah. Because I got two Drew presents, I figured I'd you get a second one. And at dinner, you said you've never seen this. I got you New York Minute.
15:55🔗Tom BurbineWe watched that all afternoon. We cateaked it. We were so impressed with the movie.
15:59🔗AdamI'm excited. You could have got me Drew's book too. I haven't seen that.
16:03🔗DrewYeah. He knows better than doing that. That won't get read.
16:06🔗AdamWell, when James Earl Jones does it on tape, you can get me that. That is awesome.
16:12🔗DrewWe got to watch the outtake of the ending that didn't actually make it into the movie.
16:17🔗AdamListen, you're talking to a guy who just got done watching all three Karate Kids trilogy and the fourth one actually with the chick. So I will watch this as soon as I get home. Thank you, Tom. What?
17:00🔗AdamAll right. I want to talk. All right, Drew, put that lid on there. Is it empty enough to crap in yet or should we get a few more? It'll stick on there like a pecan log. All right. Tom knows more about the asteroids in outer space than anyone were ever going to get on this show. I'm curious. I've got about 100,000 questions, but I guess everyone's number one thing is, what killed the dinosaurs and when is something big going to hit this planet? Better yet, how much notice really would we have if something was really on a collision course with this planet? And what could we do about it?
17:45🔗Tom BurbineIt depends. I mean, there's nothing big that's going to hit the earth in the near future. So we've seen a lot of the asteroids probably bigger than a kilometer and there's nothing on a collision course. But a lot of times small stuff like a few hundred meters, we don't see till it actually passes the earth. So it could actually hit the earth and there's stuff all over space.
18:04🔗AdamNow when you say passes the earth, you mean it could go around it and slingshot?
18:08🔗Tom BurbineYes. But most of these things are actually in orbit around the sun. They're now in the orbit around the earth.
18:13🔗DrewBut as it's passing, is there a certain distance from the earth at which point it comes into view?
18:18🔗Tom BurbineYes. Usually the bigger it is, it's easier to see.
18:34🔗Tom BurbineYes. A lot of these things actually burn up in the atmosphere.
18:38🔗AdamSo really something could be on a collision course, something of a substantial size and we might not see it.
18:44🔗Tom BurbineYes. There's telescopes, but they don't see everything. It's very underfunded. They spend money, but not that much money. It's usually some old guys seeing in the telescope looking for these things. They do have-
18:56🔗AdamI've seen the movie. The guy's always sipping from a flask and nodding off when he catches a glimpse of something, and then he gets on the hotline before you know it, you're waking the president up. What's the president? It's always four in the morning when something hits and can't be noon. Never present, just bright-eyed and bushed out, hello, president? Yeah, I'm awake. What's up? He always does the other thing where he goes for his glasses and says, sweet love of Christ. You know what I mean? I got to wake everyone up.
19:22🔗AdamAll right. So we might not see it, even if it was on a collision course.
19:26🔗Tom BurbineYeah. Some comets go on these orbits and sometimes they only pass around the sun once, so there could be a comet on the collision course right now, and we would not see it till it starts getting closer, and it's sort of the volatiles start burning off.
19:43🔗AdamYeah. I love that. Is there anything that, do we have any plan for shooting a missile or anything, or doing anything like that?
19:51🔗Tom BurbinePeople are doing studies. They're trying to actually blow up, not blow up an asteroid, but divert an asteroid that's coming close, that isn't not just a practice, because what you want to do is just change the orbit. The problem is for actually destroying it, is all the material would actually hit the earth still. So you would actually try to-
20:08🔗AdamDo more damage. It'd be like a shotgun as opposed to a bullet, right?
20:11🔗Tom BurbineSo they want to practice moving these things and just changing the orbit. So if we find one on the collision course, we could tell if it's going to hit the earth maybe in a few hundred years. So that would give us enough time to actually divert its orbit. We would use our technology. They like to use neutron bombs because they won't destroy the asteroid, but they give it a type of force to actually change its orbit.
20:31🔗AdamI always feel sorry, like I said, for the good folks of Hiroshima and Nagasaki when they go, if an asteroid the size of a football field hit this planet, it would land with 500 times the force of Nagasaki. It always sounds like, what are they complaining about? 500 times. Yeah, see, that's a lot. What you got? Yeah, it was an explosion. It's like a firecracker.
20:53🔗Tom BurbineI've been to Hiroshima and it's amazing the devastation. They have a model before and all these buildings are there and after. Only about three buildings were standing and the rest of the city was just devastated.
21:01🔗AdamEvidently, that was like nothing. I mean, we're in our infancy with this device. You know what I mean? Now, we have stuff that fits in lunch pails. It could do 500 times that damage, which is freaky if you think about it. But whenever they talk about one of these asteroids or something, they talk about the size of a Winnebago doing damage like Hiroshima. Is that true? What size would one have to be before size of a house, size of a football field?
21:32🔗Tom BurbineActually, I had my students calculate the mass.
21:36🔗Tom BurbineAbout a million, I think about a million pounds would cause about the same damage as Hiroshima. It's all one half MV squared, so it's the mass times the velocity squared, and then they're coming down about 20 kilometers per second.
21:47🔗AdamWell, I don't want to, first off, Chris has been talking about this, the velocity times the speed.
21:53🔗DrewThe impulse, it's called the impulse. The impulse.
21:55🔗AdamWe're talking our ear off about this stuff for the last few weeks. We never, until now, made any sense of it. But junior college math over here.
22:09🔗AdamBut what, and I know these things have a dense mass to them. Like what size are we talking about physically?
22:16🔗Tom BurbineI think a kilometer or two. It's not very big. I mean, it's about a mile across. Yeah, half a mile to a mile would cause severe damage to the earth, to a city.
22:24🔗DrewI mean, but the thing is, what would happen with the earth actually move?
22:27🔗Tom BurbineWould this fly off? No, the earth would stay, but all the material, it would be just like a nuclear bomb coming off. All the energy would be in a small place, boom, and all the material would be thrown up in the sky. So if something's big enough, like 5, 10, 15 kilometers, all the material goes in the sky, and supposedly it will blot out the sun, and also there's going to be lots of forest fires, it would be severe devastation.
22:49🔗DrewIt hits the water, which is likely to hit the ocean.
22:53🔗AdamBut if you hit the ocean, you don't get the nuclear winter thing, right? Phenomenon, I mean, if it hits the water, you don't get the dust cloud, right?
23:02🔗Tom BurbineYeah, I would think not, but you'd have this huge tsunamis.
23:05🔗AdamYeah, yeah. Well, listen, let the coastal community deal with that. We don't have to worry about that.
23:10🔗Tom BurbineIn the Earth, three-quarters ocean, so more likely, it's going to hit in the ocean than the.
23:13🔗AdamBut I think if we're, if we're, well, first, we pray it hits someone we don't like, somewhere in the Middle East, number one. Yeah. How's Allah going to explain this one? Number one, but number two, we hope it hits a body of water more than it hits a landmass in terms of the overall destruction. I'm assuming.
23:34🔗DrewI think water would be the worst because it just spread the energy.
23:36🔗AdamWell, it's going to do a ton of damage everywhere, but you're not going to get the cloud which is going to block out the sun and create the nuclear winter thing for everyone to enjoy. You know what I'm saying? I live up on a hill.
23:51🔗Tom BurbineYeah. They think an asteroid killed the dinosaurs, so these things, and it causes lots of damage, and the dinosaur thought the whole world would just cover with dust for years, hundreds of years, and just without any light, you have no plants and nothing to eat.
24:17🔗Tom BurbineIf I remember correctly, that was an asteroid that they thought was actually going to hit the earth. What happens is people do calculations, and they try to predict if these asteroids will actually hit. So, but the problem is if you make a prediction, say it's going to hit the earth at all, any probability, people, it becomes a huge news story. Then they get some more observations, and then they find out that it's...
24:37🔗DrewAnd that doesn't go on the news. Strangely enough, that's why science is reported by the press. The headlines and then not the science.
24:42🔗Tom BurbineYeah, there was one actually like a year ago where the president was gonna make a big speech for NASA, and they found an asteroid, and somebody did a calculation and it looked like it was gonna hit the earth pretty soon. And so people were saying, should we actually call the president or not? But they found some more observations, they did a little more work, and they found out it wasn't even coming close, but that's the problem. Do you alert people with an initial observation, or do you just say, do you wait till you get some more data? So that's one of the...
25:13🔗AdamSo everyone panicked in this 1950s. A lot of panicking going on in the 50s.
25:40🔗AdamYou got a number. You have a number signed your asteroid?
25:43🔗Tom BurbineYeah. They give the number initially, and then they'll give it a name. So I was friends with all the people who name asteroids. So they were nice and they name one after me. So my little town, I was a little local celebrity, but people didn't know what it was. They thought maybe it was a comet, maybe it was a star. Who knows? But it was an asteroid.
25:57🔗AdamWow, but the bra is just come popping off in the latest year.
26:09🔗AdamBut let me ask you this, and then we're going to the phones, Tom, because you know how the show goes. Yes. Knowing what you know, I'm curious if you're agnostic or atheist or you have a religious belief.
26:21🔗Tom BurbineI'm Roman Catholic. My mother's Jewish. But I was raised Roman Catholic, so I go to church every week. I just went to church this morning.
26:32🔗AdamDoes your understanding of the universe deepen your religious convictions? Because I think that the common belief is the more you know, the less religious you're going to be.
26:45🔗DrewAt least the domain of God and the domain of the devil change.
26:49🔗Tom BurbineAt MIT, actually, the most religious people I met were at MIT. Either they were very religious or they were very atheist. They just didn't believe anything. There was the extreme. If they were religious, they were super religious. Right.
27:05🔗Tom BurbineI don't have a little interpretation of the Bible, but the problem is to get life on earth, there was a lot of chance events that would happen. My feeling is you can't really understand God, so I don't really even worry about it. But there was all these chance things that had to happen for life to exist on earth. Maybe you had to form the planet Jupiter.
27:22🔗DrewYeah, but you study probabilities. You know that electrons are probabilities in space.
27:29🔗Tom BurbineBut the probability there's life anywhere else in the universe is there probably is, but in the galaxy, who knows? There's probably about like-
27:37🔗DrewSo is it the time when planets have life in the galaxy?
27:42🔗Tom BurbineFour? Nobody knows. We could be the only one. We could be the only-
27:45🔗AdamYeah. Well, I do know if there is other life, they kind of look like us. They just don't, their appendages are a little different than huge foreheads. Big eyes. They accommodate those huge brains. Somehow they can build marvelous spacecraft, but they have like lobster claws. How do you turn an Allen wrench with that thing? Yeah, I don't know. They must have enslaved people with digits or something to do their work for them. All right. That's right. They move things with their brain. There used to be a lot of that.
28:18🔗AdamYeah. Remember there used to be that in movies? It was a great special effect that you never had to pay for. This is a close-up of a guy looking very stern, another guy screaming, clutching his forehead, stop it, I can't think. They make some weird, that's like, hey, wow. Talk about cheap special effects.
28:50🔗What's up? Basically, me and my boyfriend, we've been dating for like six months, and we recently went to Lake Havasu, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and we just got back today. I'm like somewhere around Friday night, like I'm on the pill, but I didn't take it with me. Somewhere on Friday night, probably midnight, we had unprotected sex, and then that followed with Saturday night, and then Sunday morning. I was wondering how long can I wait before taking the morning after pill?
29:18🔗DrewWell, you don't take the morning after pill, you're on the pill.
29:37🔗AdamYou can't go on a houseboat with a guy in like half-suit and expect not to have sex.
29:41🔗DrewWhat do women think? The guys are like not interested in that, or I don't understand. Oh, I didn't expect this. What do you mean? Yeah. That's what this guy thinks about for the moment he gets up.
29:51🔗AdamIt's denial. I mean, obviously. Look, if you took your family to like half-suit, you'd end up nailing your daughter. I'm sorry. That's the way it goes over there. If you got a houseboat, your family would have sex with your entire family, not just your wife.
30:25🔗DrewYou're supposed to take it within three days, but some people have suggested you can take it up to five. So go get it right now, Kelly. You had sex on Friday, for God's sakes.
31:17🔗DrewEvery second goes by, the effectiveness wears off. You have up to 72 hours, maybe up to five days to get some effect. But the best effect is the soonest after the intercourse, okay?
31:28🔗CallerSo basically, if I took you to Friday, so we did it Friday midnight. I basically, from midnight that Friday night, for like three days till like then, like basically.
31:40🔗DrewI don't know how to answer that, Kelly, except by repeating. No, no.
31:43🔗AdamListen, let me tell you Kelly's hypotheses. It's 72 hours from the last time you had sex, so if she can just keep getting nailed, this could go on for infinity. You see, she could be in her 90s getting nailed.
32:17🔗AdamYou're not going to get that out of her.
32:18🔗DrewLet me make sure she understands. Okay, Kelly, first of all, you with me? Yes. All right, it's a phone number I want you to write down. 1888.
32:59🔗DrewWhat was it you thought, how was it you thought it worked?
33:03🔗CallerWell, I basically thought you had it to like five days, like from the first time you had sex, like when you first had intercourse, like the first time, so like five days after that, like you have it to five days, like the morning after.
34:04🔗AdamLet me tell you the getaway. I'm going to get my semen away from my nut sack. That's the kind of getaway that guys-
34:09🔗DrewI'm going to get away with nailing this chick. That's what that is.
34:12🔗AdamGet away. It just stretches wings a little. Yeah, I know. Guys, you don't leave town with a girl.
34:19🔗DrewI'm beginning to think that some of this stuff about women not preparing for birth control is not just denial. It's they literally don't understand how males think. So it's always surprised them. It's like, you want to have a set? Oh, I guess so. Okay.
34:32🔗AdamWell, here's the thing with human beings. Take note, Tom. You think when there's a food you love, everyone loves it. You order it for the party. You can't imagine.
34:45🔗DrewThink about your buddies that don't like them.
34:47🔗AdamYeah, but no, it's like, oh, give me 30 pizzas with anchovies. I can't imagine anyone who doesn't like anchovies and pizza. And you're shocked and mortified when you find out somebody just cannot stand it.
34:57🔗DrewRight. By the way, next time, you're still ordering the anchovies.
34:59🔗AdamRight. So the young lady says, well, we're going to have a suit on wine and relax.
35:06🔗AdamWe reconnect emotionally. There's not going to be anything physical. And the guy says, oh, yeah, yeah, that's where we're going.
35:10🔗DrewYou should not even think physical or not physical. It's like, what? It doesn't even occur to her.
35:13🔗AdamYeah, but if somebody said to you even like your favorite food and you said, don't you love the pasta fazool? And I went, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. You wouldn't argue with me, you just order it up. And then you find out later, I was humping you with it. Raping you with a soup ladle.
35:40🔗AdamHe generously donated 15 large to the Tsunami Relief Fund, which could be caused when one of his, probably asteroid with his name on it, crashes into the Indian Ocean. It would be awesome if your asteroid took out several hundred thousand coastal people.
35:56🔗Tom BurbineI'd be on the cover of the USA Today, Newsweek, Time.
35:59🔗AdamOh, you'd definitely be brought up on charges. It's like when your dog, like somebody, the mailman, it's your fault. When your asteroid takes out a village, you're screwed. All right, let's take a break. We'll be right back after this.
36:14🔗Loveline. Loveline with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.
36:29🔗DrewHey guys, Dr. Drew here from Loveline. I am once again here talking about the iPod Shuffle. It's something obviously we've been very excited about. I'm still excited about it, and it starts at only $99 and can hold up to 240 songs. For me, it's made traveling revolutionary. I actually can enjoy myself. I can sleep. I can put the sleeping music in that I want to use, that Adam's always complaining about that he can't get from the airline. He downloads the music from iTunes, he gets the sleeping music, he shuffles.
37:12🔗AdamHey, everybody, Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Tom Burbine is in here. Tom is a teacher, a professor. He donated...
37:26🔗DrewHe's got it wired. He teaches in all girl school.
37:28🔗Adam$15,000 to the Tsunami Relief Fund, and that got him on here. And we would have liked to have Tom anyway.
37:42🔗Tom BurbineAnd the problem is I think anything that ever happens to me will pale in comparison to the birth of a child, getting married. I'm a little worried.
38:07🔗Tom BurbineI teach a class in Mount Holyoke, a class in asteroids in the fall. But this semester I'm teaching a class in astronomy, astronomy 100, just basic information for a class of 300 UMass Amherst students.
38:17🔗DrewI would just tell you a little known fact that I played John Proctor on the Crucible at Mount Holyoke College in 1977.
38:44🔗AdamYeah. Yeah. All right. So Tom is here hanging out. We had dinner with Tom and his lovely life partner, Kevin.
38:54🔗Tom BurbineNo, they're straight. Yeah. Yeah. Me and Kevin have a bet who can get the lightest girlfriend. So pretty much if you date another guy, you would lose the bet. So we'd stay heterosexual that way.
39:04🔗AdamYeah. They're both geniuses, both geniuses.
39:08🔗DrewNow, Tom brought in the New York Minute for Adam. Are you going to watch this?
39:56🔗CallerBecause I didn't like my stepdad. Okay. I like him because he's a very bad man. He's my little brother.
40:06🔗DrewUnless you're a brother. I have no doubt that you're absolutely right. But go ahead.
40:10🔗CallerHe kicked me out and I've been on my own for a long time. My birthday is coming up and I was wondering if I should call her or? I'm not sure because my mom has been having problems for a long time.
40:24🔗DrewAll right. How do you support yourself? How do you support yourself now? How do you live?
41:02🔗DrewStephanie, I don't think you should contact your mom unless you're A, willing to reconcile with her or B, have established something independent of her that you can rely upon and call your own. Because otherwise, it's going to be just chaos when you call her. All right.
41:19🔗AdamStephanie, let me explain something. Okay. We got a couple of guys with 70 years of college under the belt in the room, but it's a genius is talking now. So here's the thing. You're not going to get what you want from your mom. It's going to be disappointing.
41:35🔗AdamIn the movies, everyone sees the light and turns a corner. In reality, they just get worse, or at best just sort of deny what went on in the past.
41:48🔗DrewAnd mom is still the person that marries the sexually abusive boy, you know, dad.
41:51🔗AdamYeah. You got a lot of energy going into thinking about what could be done with mom. That energy should be going into what can be done with Stephanie right now and tomorrow. You need to get a job. You need to just get some kind of job. As a matter of fact, I'm going further in a job. You need to sign up for the military. You need to get in a structured environment.
42:12🔗AdamYou got to get your ass kicked a little bit because you're basically like a feral child. Yeah.
42:17🔗CallerI think I got my ass kicked enough for my mom.
42:19🔗AdamNo, I'm not talking about verbal and sexual abuse. I'm talking about a DI hitting a wooden spoon in a trash can at 6 a.m. and getting your stoned ass out of bed to do some push-ups and some chin-ups on the obstacle course.
42:34🔗Tom BurbineGive me your mother f'n shoes. Give me your shoes.
42:40🔗DrewBut Stephanie, yeah, you do need some structure. You might want to throw yourself on the mercy of Department of Social Services or somewhere that you get some vocational rehabilitation, help get set up. Because you don't know how to do this. You've never done it. That's why Adam is saying the military.
42:54🔗AdamNo, it's not at all. Here's the thing. When you're dumb and you're depressed, you're like a battery that has no life in it. And you just walk through life, you sort of sleepwalk, bumping into things, asking for handouts. Everything becomes about survival. Not about thriving, but it's all about surviving. You need to be thrown into some environment that has a ton of structure. Because if you think about what success is and what successful people do, everything is always structured for them. Always structured. Their family unit has structure, their schooling has structure, their church has structure, sports have structure, whatever, cheerleading. It's all structure. You're at 18. Listen, I grew up with a bunch of these people. They've never seen any structure and they have no idea how to do it.
43:42🔗DrewI wonder if countries that have mandatory military obligations have as many homeless people and pan-hailing and that kind of thing.
43:54🔗Tom BurbineA lot of the homeless people who go to Italy are all gypsies. They're not citizens. Usually the people who have to join the military, anybody with any brains gets out of it somehow. Either they fake an illness or they leave the country.
44:06🔗AdamRight. That's what we got here, except for you don't have to do it. Stephanie, you need structure, sweetie.
44:19🔗AdamListen, I know you'll fight it with every fiber in your soul because to a guy like Drew, we went out to dinner with Drew tonight. It was nine o'clock. Drew was like, what's going on? What are we doing? What are we doing? Where are we going? He said, well, here's the thing, Drew, the studio is 13 minutes from where we sit. So if we leave now, we'll just get there at 9.15. About a minute and a half later, he was like, what are we doing now? Well, we're going to sit here and talk. Well, why aren't we doing something? See, Drew, without straight, I'm going to put it in Tom, like a planet that would just spin out of orbit. You need your gravitational pull of structure in order to stay in your orbit. Otherwise, you would just spin out. Or at least that's the fear. The reality is you wouldn't do anything. You just sit there with a couple of people and have a conversation for another 18 minutes. But your mind has got to be racing like this is insanity. What are we doing? We're not doing anything.
45:18🔗AdamS-U-N. And Drew, Drew, he got to do it. Drew too, Drew eats his food like a grouper. Eats like a giant sea bass. Eats a smaller fish. So his food is completely evaporated within 13 seconds. And now he starts tapping his fork on the table. What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? I'm waiting for my salad. That's what we're doing. Relax. Drew, all fired up over there. Stephanie? Yeah, I'm here. All right.
46:07🔗AdamAnd by the way, let me tell you something. Hold on. Attention, all idiots. Don't give us lame excuses when we're ten times as smart as you are. You're 18. You're emancipated. Go sign your papers.
46:23🔗AdamYeah. Okay. Go to job corps. Just go do it. You need structure. I'm sorry for the hand that life has dealt you.
46:30🔗DrewThen you call your mom. Then you call your mom. When you're in a position that you have a life, you call your mom. Okay?
46:37🔗CallerWell, I mean, I wanted my mom to be part of it. You know what I mean?
46:41🔗DrewNo, Stephanie, that's your pathology talking. It's going to be very disappointing trying to get her, drag her along into something that's yours.
46:49🔗AdamListen, Stephanie, your mom's not a good person. You potentially are. Let's not end up like your mom.
47:03🔗CallerIt's funny because her thing is, once you're 18-year-old, you're wrong. But I tried, like, all my mom's kids, I'm trying to get her to see that she has, even if I turn 18, she's absolutely in love. She has my little brother and my little sister, you know? And then it's funny because the other day, me and my sisters, we were sitting around the table and we were thinking about the last, the first time my mom cussed us out, you know? Not the first time she, like, took us to a park.
47:53🔗AdamAll right. Impossible. It's impossible. Whatever your parents were when you were nine, is what they are at 19, at 29, at 39, at 39.
48:00🔗DrewUnless somebody gets some treatment. I mean, we treat parents all the time. Yeah.
48:04🔗AdamI mean, look, they could stop huffing copier toner or something. But other than that, their basic construct, their personality is not going to change.
48:13🔗DrewEven when we have addicted children, we end up treating the parents and trying to bring them along. They change in treatment.
48:18🔗AdamShe's got 10 kids she doesn't care about. You're number eight or you're number six, whatever you are. Join the brood of folks you don't care about. You'd be better off with a German shepherd as a mom.
48:29🔗DrewNow, Tommy, you see you've got this auctioneer over here. If you actually want to talk, you got to just jump in and just talk over him. Don't worry about it. Just pile on. Don't just listen to him. Pile on.
49:09🔗DrewYes, there you go. That's the ultimate Loveline experience right there you've had.
49:12🔗AdamYou're different than any of your calculations you've done on a computer. It's just an exact number. She even got down to the tenths of a penny.
49:19🔗DrewYou know what? We go back and ask her, you'll get the same response.
49:22🔗AdamYeah, I always like that. It's like, what kind of weather is over there in Southern California? Depends what day it is. Okay. Fantastic. Question, answer. Check that box. Let's keep moving forward. Well, now that we're all experts on the income of panhandlers, we can move forward in our lives.
49:36🔗DrewYou know what's crazy? If you ask them to generalize or give an average, they won't. But if you ask them a specific, then they won't do that either. They'll go back to the general.
49:57🔗AdamI'll take a break. Tom Burbine is here tonight. He sounds like one of the largest dealers of custom vans in the Inland Empire. Tom Burbine's custom vans and RVs. You're the guy who are echoing, It's Dealing Days at Tom Burbine. Then you just stand there like, Dealing Days. You just stand like, I think I'd see Stone at like three in the morning, you in front of a custom van. You're talking about making fun SUVs, talking about Captain Shares, jumping from one van to the next. I always like when they do, there is a guy who does the custom van sales at like 2.33 in the morning out here. My favorite is the stooge accomplice where he goes like, Cheryl, try to get in that SUV. Go ahead and try to get in that Explorer. Oh, Tom, again? Try to get in and she's like bending herself into a pretzel to get into the back of Ford Explorer. Now getting one of our custom Ram vans. It's beautiful. It's spacious. It's like when the 5'3 chick can't make it into the forward door SUV. She can't, not going to make it into the suburban. Can't make it in. I have to grease myself and get a running start, Tom. I like when they complain too. Getting to the SUV show. Again, Tom? No, please. No captain's chairs in those SUVs. Tom Burbine, largest van, custom van outlet in the Inland Empire. We'll take ourselves a break. We'll be right back after this.
51:58🔗AdamIt's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Our guest tonight, Tom Burbine, largest seller of Custom Ram and Dodge Vans of the Inland Empire. They carry their own papers, Drew. Hey, foreclosures, bankruptcies, divorce. Bring it down. It's dealing days. Burbine, Dodge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tom Burbine is here. Tom is one of the winners. We had two. Tom is our favorite one. I know they're like your children, but this is Sophie's choice. I got to pick Tom.
52:47🔗AdamAnd brought gifts. I'm going to see New York Minute, which I'll hold my breath. The latest joint. No, it's going to be awesome. And then I'm going to start off by watching Taboo 2, but finish with New York Minute when Drew hits the screen.
53:17🔗Tom BurbineYeah. I fly to Chicago. I flew first class because I used my freaking flyer mile, so I wanted to do everything first class because it's a first class show.
53:50🔗All right. I met a girl that's 28. I'm 21 at a party like a week ago and then I met up with her yesterday and she was telling me that she doesn't want a relationship. She's not looking for sex. She's not looking for anything.
54:39🔗AdamAll right. Well, first off, what a rack on tour young Jeff is. He paints beautifully. Poetic. I wish I could write that fast. Do you guys have sex? You guys have? Nope. All right. Wonderful. Dreams are made of Jeff. All right. So your question then is?
55:10🔗DrewAll right. Here's what Tom just needs directions. Give him some direction. Go ahead. But if she tells you no, that she's not interested, believe her. Don't keep going after it. This is somebody. I don't understand. I smell chaos. I farted actually. No. Beyond the fart. I smell chaos. You're 21, she's 28. That's couscous. Did you say she has a child?
55:34🔗DrewA one-year-old. No, no. Jeff, come on. She told you no.
55:38🔗AdamWell, I don't understand what her thing is. She said she wanted no type of relationship whatsoever.
55:45🔗CallerNothing. She is not looking for anything.
55:48🔗AdamYeah. All right. Well, first off, let me just say this. Tom will jump in because I'm guessing he's got a number of kids floating around the country. He probably doesn't even know about one of the Star Trek conventions. A lot of chicks.
56:00🔗Tom BurbineYeah. I almost went to a Star Trek. I wanted to see William Shatner, but it got canceled because not enough people showed up. Yeah. But tickets. So I had to go to a comic book convention and said down in Dallas.
56:11🔗AdamShocking. I was just kidding. But here's what I'm saying. I think a lot of women that are 28, that have a one-year-old that are single, feel like there's a little damage goods in a certain sense, like their numbers and as high as it could be. So they do a preemptive strike. But they do a little reverse psychology thing, which is instead of waiting for the person to dump them, when they find out about the baggage, they go, I got a kid and I want nothing to do with you.
56:43🔗DrewIt could be that. I agree. But the fact is, 28-year-old women often tell younger men, no, no, no, you're too young for me. I can't deal with it.
56:49🔗AdamJeff, you're in way over your head. Like if you were taking one of Tom's astrophysics classes.
57:27🔗AdamYou're in over your head with this one. You don't want anything to do with her. Believe you me. It's going nowhere. It's like heroin. It's like you try it. Either you throw up or you love it. What if you two fall in love? Don't do it. Just go find a young chick.
58:59🔗Tom BurbineAnd he was looking right at both of us when he said that. No, I went to see Dr. Drew speak at a book sign once, and I was so impressed. You did? Yes, I went to the one, I think it was in Fairfax.
59:07🔗AdamHe thought Shatner was gonna be there, originally.
59:22🔗AdamYeah, Tom Leiter killed it, and then wrote, I need you in the rabbit's blood on the rental car windshield, and the torch windshield, remember saying that?
59:44🔗AdamSome of those rabbit suits are so realistic that you just really can't tell.
59:48🔗DrewNo, I asked that because I remember I remember I was at somewhere, I think it was Princeton at a rabbit suit, but this was a bookstore in outside Washington DC.
59:55🔗Tom BurbineOutside Washington DC. So I took the bus out there, I got the sign, and I was very impressed with your speaking ability. Any question, you would answer succinctly to the point, and you actually seem to care about the people. Everyone who asks a question, you...
1:00:07🔗DrewI do. This is what Adam tries to beat out of me.
1:00:10🔗AdamNo, I mean, that's part of his genius is the illusion of caring.
1:00:15🔗AdamI mean, like any great magician, they don't actually possess magical skills, but the sleight of hand is amazing.
1:00:22🔗DrewMy nephew today was trying to get my son off a chair, and his sister goes, What's the magic word? And he goes, Abracadabra. They make him disappear.
1:00:36🔗Tom BurbineAnd I was also impressed how good looking you were because it never gets mentioned on the air.
1:00:40🔗AdamNow we're getting to it. Now we're getting why. Now we know why up down to 15 grand in cross country.
1:00:47🔗DrewOh, and I got to put out too, don't I?
1:00:49🔗AdamWell, for 15 grand, I think that's good for at least a reach around at least. Drew, as a physician, you're trained to sort of tune out as you're doing these sorts of things.
1:00:58🔗DrewPut my patients first, yeah, especially if somebody's laying themselves out for such a good cause.
1:01:03🔗AdamPut a little extra talc in that glove, reach into it, just pretend like you're working on like a fisher on an old man or something.
1:01:11🔗DrewYeah, pull on some colon or something.
1:01:24🔗AdamI like the guys that are so straight they can't comment on other guys' looks. Like, I don't know Brad Pitt. I don't know if he's a troll or he's Adonis. I'm a dude.
1:01:46🔗Tom BurbineIf there's anything wrong with that.
1:01:47🔗DrewI am amazed you were at that bookstore. I remember that bookstore. It was kind of had a coffee shop attached to it.
1:01:51🔗Tom BurbineYeah, and they had juice and cookies. I got a book signed and I had some girl take my picture. And then you asked if she was my girlfriend. And I said, I wish. That was my joke.
1:02:33🔗AdamGuys just screw all the time. Zero memory. They don't remember when the last time they got laid was. Ironically, it was like 20 minutes ago.
1:02:39🔗DrewThey're not replaying it. They're going to the next one.
1:02:41🔗AdamThey're like, I can't remember when. Oh, wait a minute. There's a vagina on my penis. I guess now. I guess the answer is now. Okay.
1:02:54🔗DrewThat's right. You have to recall the stuff to use it in your rituals later.
1:02:58🔗AdamI really do think getting laid affects your memory. Remember those guys in high school that were getting laid all time? You'd go, hey dude, remember I saw? They'd be like, what did you do? Did you play Pop Warner football? They never know who anyone is. They go home and their parents are there and they're like, there's these two older folks that are in my living room. That's your mom and your dad. I'm sorry, I get laid. I have no memory. Yeah. Jessica?
1:03:30🔗I have a question. Okay, last month on the 14th, okay, I stopped my period and then 10 days later on the 24th, I started again and I'm still on it now.
1:03:38🔗DrewAnd you've never had irregular periods before?
1:04:09🔗DrewAll right. Well, yes. Coming off the pill can do that occasionally. Is there any chance you're pregnant?
1:04:15🔗No. Well, me and my boyfriend broke up, but we hadn't had sex for like two months already.
1:04:20🔗DrewYou can still be pregnant. It's possible. Yeah. When did you stop the pill?
1:04:24🔗About a month ago. But we were not sexual a month before that.
1:04:28🔗DrewAll right. So this has something to do with you coming off the pill. It may regularize by itself within a month or two. Sometimes it can take up to six months for your periods to regularize after getting off the pill when you've been on it for a period of time, particularly the shot. The depoporveric can be a while before things get back to normal. If it keeps bleeding or if it's very heavy, definitely check with a gynecologist. Okay?
1:04:48🔗DrewBut it doesn't necessarily mean anything. There are a lot of things that can cause that kind of bleeding. Pregnancy being number one amongst them, and tubal pregnancy is the thing you really worry about. Ovarian cysts, infections.
1:05:28🔗DrewYou get a urine toxicologist, urine drug screen. Most of them you pee and you send them in. I think you have a preliminary read, then you get the confirmatory stuff back.
1:05:47🔗AdamI'm going to send stool in. But really. Stool, I'll probably write it away. So it's like if you have a troubled teen, you got to go get some of their urine.
1:05:57🔗AdamOh, sure. That's great. Yeah. It's going to be great when you start testing your kids in about six months. Yeah. Great. You can say eating disorder. It's going to be awesome.
1:06:05🔗DrewThat's awesome. I say it's a modern time, dude. You live in the old ages.
1:06:10🔗AdamAll right. But Drew, listen to me. Listen, you are going to screw those kids up and it's all going to be under the guise of, I'm doing it because I care. Meanwhile, you're going to screw them up. Just relax. You don't have to screen them for drugs. Let them do something first. Uh-oh. Oh, Drew. Drew, you got too much energy. You're going to screw them up with that energy going into them. Screening them for drugs?
1:06:34🔗DrewThat's going to be weird. That's something that really should be done more frequently. I really believe that.
1:06:38🔗DrewIt should be part of health maintenance for adolescents. You take them to the doctor, get checked. Why wouldn't you check that?
1:06:45🔗AdamWell, you don't. I mean, they get a physical for football or something.
1:06:50🔗DrewThere's health maintenance for adolescents and that would be a key thing.
1:06:53🔗AdamYeah, but why not just send them straight to rehab then? I mean, why not take any chances? Maybe they're swapping urine with the neighbor kid who's a Jehovah's Witness.
1:07:04🔗DrewThere's a lot of urine home screening right now, a lot. That's a mainstay.
1:07:09🔗AdamAt the Lord Fauntleroyd School for Albino Hemophiliacs, not at North Hollywood High, there's no drug screening going on over there.
1:07:17🔗AdamDrew, here's what I'm saying. Let the kids find some weed in their drawer or something first, or let them look glazed over or something. No, they're not hooked at that point. First off, you think those kids could smoke pot for two years before you found out about it? I give them two minutes.
1:07:44🔗AdamOkay. You're just going to be driving your car and all of a sudden your head's going to start turning to the side because your kid's going to be sucking on a foil pipe somewhere and it should be in the home room.
1:07:56🔗AdamYou're going to get this weird thing. It's going to be like scanners. Your head's going to explode. Okay. So here's the thing. You don't need to screen your kids for drugs because they can't do drugs. The screening isn't going to prevent them from trying it the first time. You will know the day they do it.
1:08:11🔗DrewDo you agree with that? Yes. I have uncanny instincts with that stuff.
1:08:15🔗AdamBut not only that, but you'll be looking for it.
1:08:18🔗DrewYeah. The point is I'm trying to do as I tell other parents too, which is get used to this. It should be something to do.
1:08:35🔗AdamYeah. Just look at it that way. You will know-
1:08:39🔗DrewOh, I tell them that all the time. I said, you guys, you got it bad.
1:08:42🔗AdamOh, they're never going to be able to do anything, but you don't have to screen them. That's going to slow down the process. You have to wait for them to whizz in a cup. You're going to know before they go to the bathroom.
1:08:57🔗DrewI'm just going to be happy when Adam is a kid.
1:08:59🔗AdamI bought a dye bag from a Drew's youngest. It's awesome. Yeah. He didn't give me a break though. I was pissed about that. He's a business man. He's dealing from a fan. Sean, you're really going to give them eating swords. They're good kids. Give them a little space. Sean? Yeah. They got to be kids.
1:09:22🔗AdamListen, I'm telling you, you can't put the screws to them.
1:09:25🔗DrewThey're good kids. You're absolutely right. My thing, it's not about putting the screws to it. It's about not putting the screws to it. It's about having a structure in place and if they fall through, it's up to them. Yeah.
1:09:36🔗Tom BurbineDaily urine checks is structure.
1:09:38🔗AdamYeah. Sure. Yeah, I know. We just submit a semen and a DNA sample before you leave the house every day.
1:09:46🔗Tom BurbineIt'll become a normal habit for them.
1:09:49🔗AdamYeah. Police motorcycle escort to school. You'll have your own attache that is dispatched to you. Just a guy with an earpiece and a wraparound sunglass is just standing next to your desk in your homeroom. He's talking into his cuff link. Drew back at home base monitoring. Now he's got you on GPS. He reports there's trouble with one of the chips that he's inserted in one of the child. No, this is not a tracking chip. He sees what the child sees. They can tell if he's copying from the Asian kids' calc paper.
1:10:23🔗AdamYeah. Actually, you will actually have three separate screens and you'll sit in a dark room. You actually see what they're seeing and it'll be weird when they burst into the room and see you looking at you. And it's just going to infinity because they're looking at the screen and they're looking at you. Look at the screen.
1:10:38🔗DrewCan't wait for that. It'll be awesome.
1:10:44🔗CallerYeah. I have I've had a problem with proper rectal function since I started having sex, like around 18. And it hasn't really gone away and it hasn't gotten worse. It's still pretty much been the same. It's not, it doesn't have to do with drugs or drinking. Like I'm off any of that.
1:11:04🔗DrewWhat is, what Sean pray tell is improper about your erectile function?
1:11:09🔗CallerLike not being, being able to perform with a woman.
1:11:20🔗DrewSo you, so you've never had intercourse with a woman?
1:11:23🔗CallerNo, I have. But I'm just saying on several occasions when I need to, I can't. And I just think, I thought it was, I think it's abnormal for me at this young of an age to not be able to perform or get it up or whatever.
1:11:41🔗AdamWell, all right, hold on. Do you have a girlfriend?
1:11:58🔗AdamHow about just getting a girlfriend? Because here's the thing, your nerves, here's what I want to say. I don't think anyone would be good at anything if Drew.
1:12:09🔗AdamIf you had to do, well, let's not use you, let's use me. Because I have to do work on this radio show. But if I had to do this radio show, and I just did one, I did one a year. That's all. Just 364 days later.
1:12:41🔗AdamI'm a Japanese kid, so I'm awesome. The point is, you need to find a girlfriend. You get that girlfriend, you work it out. Like any job, you do it every day, it becomes very easy.
1:12:51🔗DrewI agree with one brief little interlude here. Can I talk to him for a second?
1:12:57🔗DrewSean, Adam is absolutely right. It's probably anxiety, it's probably the need to work things out, but you do need to be checked out to make sure there's not a medical problem. Do you have a normal sex drive?
1:13:42🔗DrewYeah. I think Wellbutrin to me will be, it's an interesting choice. It would not affect your sexuality or your erectile function, but it can make your anxiety worse. If anxiety is your problem, that may not be such a great choice, and I would want to see an expert before I took something like that. A. B. Adam gave you good advice about taking care of the problem and working it out once you get the psychiatric problem properly assessed.
1:14:59🔗AdamYou have screenings, lunch pail screenings, there's going to be pat-downs before they come in and leave the house. They're just going to be doing random swat.
1:15:06🔗DrewIt's just going to be normal for them. They're just going to get used to it.
1:15:08🔗AdamIt's going to come in the front door in a little red light, sir, step aside, sir, sir, take the belt off. Dad, sir, please, hands out. Please take shoes off, sir. Then you can do that wipe down thing with the swab. You find some chalk and a little marijuana residue on the kid. It goes right to the computer.
1:15:25🔗DrewI was at the airport the other day. Somebody, they yell something and then they freeze. Have you been through this?
1:15:41🔗AdamAll right. Go ahead. So they yell something and they freeze.
1:15:43🔗DrewWell, it was weird. They make you stand away from the machine. They start screaming and then they all, it's like a pack of monkeys that howl goes through the troop. Then they make you, I've never been through that before. Some sort of breach. Have you ever seen this?
1:15:58🔗AdamNo. They just stopped everything. Somebody made it pass.
1:16:01🔗DrewI guess. Somebody goes, but they all yell the same thing. All of them, all of the airport and everybody stopped. They make everyone stop. Really? I've never seen anything like this. Then they yell all clear and go back to the...
1:16:14🔗AdamIt seems to be different, which is one of these interesting things that the, every airport seems to be a little bit different, which is a weird thing to monkey with. McDonald's and Jack in the Box is much more uniformity than airport security does, which is one of these things because it's a federal thing. Why wouldn't they all be laid out almost exactly the same, the same equipment and the same protocol? Like, hey, at Logan, you got to take your shoes off, but at LAX, you don't have to take your shoes off. Like, really? You don't want to just decide on which one you're doing?
1:16:45🔗DrewLAX recently hired the angriest people. They really just become incredibly angry.
1:16:52🔗AdamNo, well, they're hostile because, A, they're, well, first off, security is, you know, it basically, here's how it goes. It goes Job Corps, it goes military, and then it goes security in this sort of-
1:17:04🔗DrewAre you going up the food chain or down?
1:17:05🔗AdamYeah, I'm going up. I'm going up. But that's the sort of, well, Job Corps is criminals.
1:17:10🔗AdamYou go to Job, you get your choice between juvenile hall and put, you know, dig in fire lines in the Angeles Crest highway up there. That, I mean, that's that. And then military is just, I don't want to go to junior college, I'd rather fire a gun. And then security is, well, I've been busted so many times, I think I know a lot about the security at this point. So, you know, when you've been cuffed as many times as I have, I haven't had as many run-ins with the man. I mean, think about this, losers, in all facets of security. All facets. I mean, here's what it is. Security is like secret service and then a freefall. Just this, just a two-hour-long-
1:17:53🔗AdamYeah, okay, it's just like secret service and then there's the guy you run to backstage at the Weenie Roast who won't let you on stage, even though you have to announce the next band. Or you're in the band. Yeah, here's what I do. I'm actually, I'm two members of Kiss and I have to announce it. And I have to bring them on stage. Can I get out? Yeah. No, can't get out. So that's my point. You're dealing with the bottom of the barrel and then it's LA. So you not only have the bottom of the barrel, but you have the angry people who are all out here. You know, it's not Georgia. You know what I'm saying? So you have an angry city.
1:18:28🔗AdamWith the bottom of the barrel. Yeah, so it's awesome. It's great. It's a great experience. And take your shoes off. The guy rips out the wand. I wish I wouldn't mind if they just, I got singled out and had to be felt up out of line. I don't, you know, they tell you what they're going to do. I'm going to reach around your groin now, sir. I'm going to reach around. I'm going to use the back of my hand. These are the back of their hand, which is in a weirder. Yeah, it's like, hey, that's my weirdo uncle. He used to do that to me when I was nine. He'd do the back rub thing. He wouldn't do the front of the hand. He didn't want to get any prints on my underwear. It was awesome. But yeah, the backhand creepier and just go and feel up, buddy. I don't need the whole like here's something. Now, sure, I'm taking my taking taking my inner knuckle. I'm going to rub it against your left sack. Now I'm going right sack. Now I'm going to spank there with the ring, pinky, pinky knuckle. All backhand, by the way. Backhand. That's nice. That's awesome. All right. Let's keep. Should we take a break? I want to speak to yeast infection.
1:19:37🔗CallerNot much. Just driving on the freeway. LTL, FTC. Calling to get Drew's take on medicinal marijuana going to the Senate for a vote this summer and see what, well, Adam's take his two on it. I'm currently a patient of medical marijuana.
1:19:57🔗AdamWhat are you doing with medical marijuana?
1:19:58🔗DrewHold on. I'll tell you what he's doing in a second. Let me tell you. You don't know? No, no. Hold on. Hold on. He knows what's up. I am generally in favor of these bills. I think our, the lack of a rational approach to this drug is creating serious problems. And we need to get much more rational, particularly as it pertains to research and medical use. We give opiates to opiate addicts if it helps them decrease suffering. Why can't we give marijuana to marijuana addicts if it helps them at the end of life?
1:20:28🔗AdamI'll tell you what, Drew, slippery slope, my friend.
1:20:39🔗DrewNon-addicts are not interested in medical marijuana. And when I, by the way, when I offer Marinol to the addicts that ask for medical marijuana, not interested, because it doesn't make you high the way the regular marijuana does. You're interested in being on marijuana, and if that helps you with your medical problems, and you're not interested in getting off, fine.
1:20:55🔗Tom BurbineWhat medical problem do you have?
1:21:04🔗DrewI know it does. It's an opioid effect for some people. But some of the marijuana, the CB1 and CB2 receptor antagonists, blocking agents, these marijuana receptor blockers are going to be some of the most important medications going forward that we're going to see in the next 5 to 10 years. So I'm a huge advocate of liberalizing the research of marijuana.
1:21:23🔗AdamSlippery slope, Drew. Slippery slope. Let me tell you what happens. You legalize this contraband, this narcotic for consumption for people with so-called injuries or conditions. Next thing you know, you got jack-booted dugs kicking in your front door, taking your infant, opening his mouth, massaging his throat, forcing full marijuana plants down his throat. You see what I'm saying? That's what's next. It's slippery slope. It's the same way.
1:21:52🔗DrewIt'll take a few weeks for that to happen, too. It'll happen immediately.
1:21:55🔗AdamA few weeks. That's optimistic. I have it down to hours. Yeah, yeah. No, you're forcing people who don't want to take marijuana. You're going to actually be forced. The government will be forcing them to take it. Then you create a black market. I always like the scheme ones that involves guys in vans going to Nevada and buying things. Here's the problem.
1:22:14🔗DrewAs it is, we get guys like Zachary, who's a full-blown marijuana addict using it, and no one is really monitoring it and exploring this carefully.
1:22:22🔗AdamWow. His name is Zach, and he's calling from Santa Barbara, so he really didn't stand a chance. He was like, someone should have just handed you a bong when you were born. There you go, buddy.
1:22:31🔗AdamThere's a bong. Yeah, we had his bong bronzed, actually.
1:22:34🔗DrewYour back pain will magically go away, Zachary. Just FYI, if you could maintain sobriety for about three months, that back pain will get a lot better.
1:22:42🔗AdamWell, listen, first off, you're going to live in Santa Barbara. You might as well just smoke weed anyway. There's nothing going on. Just enjoy the view.
1:22:49🔗AdamEnjoy the sea air. But would you consider yourself a marijuana addict, Zachary? I definitely am.
1:22:55🔗CallerI mean, I've been smoking marijuana for four years. I only became a patient this past year. It just helps me with a lot in my life, more than just a little bit. And it's something I do recreationally. It's something I don't do at parties.
1:23:08🔗DrewI know. It's like giving opiates or methadone or buprenorphine to an opiate addict.
1:23:13🔗AdamHow'd you hurt your back? Lots of labor.
1:23:56🔗AdamBy the way, cutting fire lines when you have a chronic back, that's a tough gig. On the other hand, you're 22, you've never had an injury. So you don't have any back problems.
1:24:07🔗DrewThe opiate effect in the pot causes the back pain. I know it's a stretch for you to believe, but I treat this all the time. Yeah. You'll be surprised how the pain magic goes away. You get off all drugs for about three to six months.
1:24:17🔗AdamI'm really starting to believe that back pain is almost just a description of an emotional condition that ends up in your back. I do know it firsthand. I used to have a lot of back pain.
1:24:38🔗AdamYou can't get out of bed some mornings. You can't turn your head. You get these kinks in your neck and the pinched nerves and whatever you want to call them, stingers, whatever it is.
1:24:46🔗DrewBut it's not because they're discs pushing on the nerve. It's because of something in the central nervous system.
1:24:51🔗AdamYeah. But look, if you can give yourself diarrhea through-
1:24:57🔗AdamYeah. Or if you can vomit because you're stressed out or you can-
1:25:01🔗DrewYou get headaches because you're stressed.
1:25:02🔗AdamWhatever you want, you can certainly pinch your neck up. That's nothing. All right. Tom Burbine here, one of, like I said, the largest Dodge Ram retailers in Southern California, and teaches- I'm just going to say astrophysics.
1:25:27🔗Tom BurbineNo, I'm just enthralled just to be in your presences. Can I do some ass kissing?
1:25:33🔗AdamBlah, blah, blah. Hold on a second, Tom. I want you to write down. Make some notes. Make a note. I want you to really sit down with your thoughts for a second. I'll give you a piece of paper.
1:26:25🔗AdamYeah, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Tom Burbine is here tonight. Tom invested 15 large to the Tsunami Relief Fund. Very generously, he is out here from, I don't know where in Massachusetts. And he's a brilliant guy. And don't believe me, you don't think he's brilliant? Well, just listen to the praise he's going to heap on moi.
1:26:55🔗Tom BurbineAdam, you are a comic genius. And I think it's a travesty that the entertainment community has never recognized you're brilliant. You've never been nominated for an Emmy, Academy Award. I went on the Internet Movie Dated Place, and the awards and nominations is blank for you.
1:27:09🔗AdamWhat, really? No Academy Award? I didn't get the nod this year.
1:27:12🔗Tom BurbineNo Emmys, no anything. Because Jimmy Kimmel has won, he won an Emmy and nominated for Emmy for being host of The Ben Stein. So he has a link, but you have no link for awards and nominations. You're right.
1:27:24🔗AdamHold on a second. First off, I beg to differ because we won a Shine Award.
1:27:30🔗AdamAlthough you'd probably find that on their Caroline Ray's name because her name was prominently displayed on the thing so much so that I had to take a Sharpie and take her name off because people don't think it's my award. Also, I did get a, not an award, but a certificate for finishing a pig's trough at Farrells in 1974. So that should have been listed on there. But keep going. It's a plaque. It's suitable for framing. It's not something I like to brag about, but I did finish it off. Just a little help for my stepdad.
1:28:00🔗Tom BurbineLet me add, you want to know the funniest joke I ever heard you tell on the show?
1:28:03🔗AdamYes, I would. But hold on. If it's not funny, I'm going to kill myself because that's my funniest joke. You know what I mean?
1:28:11🔗Tom BurbineYou and Dr. Drew were talking to me about how prevalent oral sex was in high school. You, Adam, had the classic one-liner. You said if you were getting oral sex in high school, you would be printing out leaflets.
1:28:50🔗Tom BurbineYou got to remember this 15,000 is approximately about for this year about 30 percent of my salary. So pretty much I'm going to be wiped out financially for years or maybe decades.
1:28:58🔗AdamYeah. Well, it's an interesting. I was inspired by Tom's can-do attitude and when I learned. Now, here's the thing. When we found out, we started talking two months ago about this raising money for the tsunami relief thing, I thought, well, first winning bid for this show is going to be 14, 1500 bucks. That was my first thought. My second thought was going to be, we're going to get some trust fund baby comes in the air. We're going to get some guy, he either owns the nudie places down by the airport, he's making money hand over fist because he got clipped on his Harley by a shell truck and he's made millions in court or something. I didn't know we're going to have two hardworking guys, two guys who know the value of a dollar coming in here. When I found out that Tom basically is donating the amount he makes teaching for a summer session in his astrology class, I was inspired and then I thought, so my first impulse is, wow, this guy is not like he makes a million bucks a year and he's parting with a very small percentage of his yearly income. He's parting with almost 30 percent, as he said, of his annual intake. And he said, I believe he said when we were talking to him, it's just something he wanted to do.
1:30:26🔗Tom BurbineYeah, life-long goals. Once I heard the auction, I said, this is the only way I'm going to get in the show. I'm now the writer. I don't have big breasts. I'm not an author. I'm not a musician. So I said it and I just said, this is mine. So I decided I'm going to bid whatever it was. I was going to take it and I was able to get it.
1:30:42🔗AdamBut there's a thing that's sort of inspiring in that he just, Tom had a goal and had a dream and he went through life or his trajectory in life is, I got things I want to do and I'm going to do them.
1:31:07🔗Tom BurbineI'd like to, I would like to have a link on the Internet Movie Database, do something so I have some type of link on there.
1:31:16🔗AdamWhy don't you shoot Drew? I think that would get you on.
1:31:20🔗Tom BurbineYes, yes, yes. And my trial and then I also always wanted to write a book so hopefully it can be on Amazon to kind of write a book on asteroids.
1:31:29🔗AdamYeah, well you could write a book on asteroids.
1:31:30🔗DrewWe were in all the stuff we were at. I think a lot of people were interested in stuff we were talking about at dinner.
1:31:34🔗AdamYeah, well what you got to do is you got to come up with some crackpot theory that you can't really support but it's got to be a real doomsday theory and then you make the circuit.
1:31:41🔗DrewNot a theory as much as a headline, a headline.
1:31:44🔗AdamYeah, but I mean you say we sell it, they sell it when you're going to be on CNN.
1:31:50🔗DrewWhat's the title going to be? Alan's going to help you here. He's very good at this kind of thing.
1:31:54🔗AdamI think it's going to be called Duck, while you're going to be smashed by an asteroid. And then you do some calculations that no TV host can really keep up with, that basically says within, you know, somewhere within the next eight years, something the size of Texas will actually ironically only hit Texas. So it's just going to be replaced, essentially. Texas essentially is going to hit Texas. And not only is your theory going to be the size of Texas, the exact same shape.
1:32:25🔗AdamAnd land right on it. As a matter of fact, it's happened three times. We don't even know it. It's like Texas got paved over. It happens at night. No one even knows. Yeah. Yeah. So that's the thing. The size of Texas, but the shape of Texas. And it's actually going to hit Texas. And it's not spilling into Arkansas or anywhere else. It's just pow. What else is on the border?
1:32:54🔗AdamI've worked it out, Tom, too. I know it's the 15 grand to come on the show and hang out tonight. But I thought, I'll have lunch with you tomorrow for like 3,500 bucks. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, just kind of between us.
1:33:11🔗AdamDo the exact same thing you're doing. But other than the other guy doing the exact same thing you're doing, no, it's never happened before.
1:33:17🔗Tom BurbineYeah. My only goal was to be a better guest than him, so that was my goal.
1:33:20🔗AdamDon't listen. If you would have just belched and passed out, he would have, no, he's a dear friend. He's a dear friend. No, but Tom, I mean, come on. You're Tom. You're the Tomster. You're the Tomiak.
1:33:30🔗Tom BurbineYeah. Once I bought the presents, I knew I could bring you over.
1:34:20🔗CallerNot necessarily a tough life, but a lot of stares. And, you know, now I'm 23 and it's... my breasts are starting to sag. And I've noticed a lot of, like, shoulder pain. And I always thought that girls that complained of shoulder pain that had big breasts, it was just a bunch of crap because they were, you know, wusses or whatever. But it really is hurting me. And I don't know if I should get a breast lift or a breast reduction.
1:34:44🔗AdamWell, hold on, hold on now. What size? What size are you?
1:34:47🔗CallerI'm like a 38D. I'm really big. I am. And I'm not a big girl, you know, as far as, you know, me being a thickness wise.
1:35:02🔗AdamOh, we got to do some radio math. Let me tell you how the radio math usually works. Usually about 5'6, and 135 will add about 10% on the weight. But when you go 135, 145, now, now we're bumped up into 20 percentile.
1:35:16🔗DrewYeah, but doesn't she get a special deduction for the name?
1:37:03🔗AdamI have 5, 4, and 13, 16, and I have 153. Drew? Yeah. That was some of the most elaborate radio math we've ever done. Makes it more accurate. On a gal. It's hard to argue with this kind of world-class number crunching that's going on in here tonight. So here's what we would have to say. You can consult the plastic surgeon. I've talked to plastic surgeons about this many times.
1:37:40🔗AdamThere's not really a lift, although Dr. Marcel who's usually so coked up, I can't understand him when he does a show. For the first five years, I talked to him. He said, there's no such thing as a lift. Then last time he was on the show, when someone wanted a lift, I was like, well, you can't get a lift. He said, no, absolutely. They do them all the time. I have no idea what that is talking about anymore. The point is, it's probably more reduction than it is a lift. You should consult that. But also, I bet if you got down 15 pounds, you might lose some chest size too.
1:38:42🔗AdamThank you. After this. Hey, y'all, it's the Love Line. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Our dear, dear, dear, dear, dear friend, Tom, is here. He's donated quite a lump to the Tsunami Relief Fund, and what a, how liberating must be to be like Tom. Drew, Drew, look at you and your gilded cage trap.
1:39:39🔗Tom BurbineI actually was able to take it off my taxes, so I saved about 4,000 in taxes because I donated money, but the problem is I'm 99% sure I'm going to be audited because my donation went from 0 to 15,000, so I think that puts up red flags with the government.
1:39:54🔗AdamYeah, they gotta look out for your type. Slicks, snake oil salesman. Yeah, we've seen your type. All right, Drew, I want to talk to Bernice, who I think called last week. Bernice?
1:40:11🔗DrewYou were driving around drunk with your teacher?
1:40:13🔗AdamLet me see if I can, I'll give you my powers of recollection. Teacher from your school wanted to meet you outside about 4 a.m. and plied you with a little booze. Then you passed out and when you woke up, it was about noontime and he was driving around with you in the car. You think he gave you a roofie?
1:40:40🔗CallerYeah, and I was remembering what you told me about how alcoholics are prone to blackouts.
1:40:47🔗DrewThat and the fact that you drank certainly enough to cause you to not just blackout but pass out. You don't need the roofie to make your story complete.
1:40:58🔗AdamYeah, no. Let me just clear it up for everyone. We have a lot of people say, I know a guy slipped me a roofie and it's like what happened? Well, it was St. Patrick's Day. I drank a pony keg and then I did a couple of anal funnels full of grain alcohol and then I passed out. I'm pretty sure he gave me a roofie.
1:41:23🔗AdamNo, you drank. You drank. And what he did isn't any better. But you drink a bottle of Jack. You don't need a roofie.
1:41:31🔗DrewYeah. I wouldn't go down the roofie path so much. It's not as important as the fact that even just that the guy I met you at four in the morning drove with you in his car.
1:42:04🔗CallerAnd I guess they were trying to see whose backpack it was. And they actually opened it and read it and found out about it. And the school actually reported it and everything. And actually what I want to ask you is, how can I not make this happen? Because I don't want to press charges.
1:42:32🔗AdamAll right. Isn't there some sort of like attorney-client privilege between a chick and her diary, by the way, that's like not admissible in court or something? Are they putting the screws to you? I mean, look, here's the thing. You should do something about this. This guy is a criminal and he needs to be brought to justice without sounding corny. On the other hand, if you're just looking for a way to get out of it, and just say you made it up, in which case, everyone will just think you're a nut job. You know what I'm saying?
1:43:22🔗DrewOr this is a very disturbed situation. And people hopefully at school will refer you for some help. And that this person will be taken to task appropriately. He certainly shouldn't be teaching kids.
1:43:41🔗DrewAnd certainly in your situation, Bernice, you need a lot of help. So.
1:43:44🔗AdamWhy not just go throw yourself on the mercy of the powers that be? You're not going to get into trouble. How about it? Let them help you. Why go through with this rain cloud over your head? There's something liberating about just throwing yourself, just being free. How about it?
1:44:15🔗AdamWell, then stop bothering us. Would you please?
1:44:17🔗DrewThat's not therapy, Bernice. I don't know what that is, but that's not therapy.
1:44:19🔗AdamOh, look, I don't care what it is, but if you're going to call the show and ask for our advice, and you don't want to take it, then don't call the show anymore, please. All right. Thanks. Good. I know I sound like a dick, but this is the second time you've called. It's the second time we've told you what our opinion is and what you need to do.
1:44:40🔗AdamIt is. Talk to your therapist about it.
1:44:42🔗DrewIt's a very serious situation and it feels very helpless to us.
1:44:48🔗AdamWell, I'm not minimizing what's happened to her or how difficult it is, but I have no choice. Here's what, you tell us what to do. You tell us what the problem is. We'll tell you what to do. And if you say, no, I'm not going to do it, then we got to move on. You're a dick to a lot of people on the air.
1:45:04🔗AdamWell, you should see me off the air. We'll take a break. We'll be right back after this. Well, that's it. I want to thank Tom Burbine for coming out here. And again, if you're looking for a custom van or RV.
1:46:02🔗Tom BurbineYeah, if I get fired as a professor, I will do the vans.
1:46:19🔗AdamYeah, they're all holding their breath waiting for Drew to roll in the tent. So, again, Tom Burbine, thank you very much for your generous donation. And until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew Sand. Mahalo.
1:46:32🔗Tom BurbineAnd I was also impressed how good looking you were because it never gets mentioned on the air.
1:46:36🔗AdamNow we're getting to it. Now we're getting why. Now we know why he popped down to 15 grand in the cross country.
1:46:43🔗DrewOh, and I got to put out too, don't I?
1:46:45🔗AdamFor 15 grand, I think that's good for at least a reach around.
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