1:02🔗AdamHey, everybody, it's the best of Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla, that's Dr. Drew. Hopefully neither one of us are here because it's the best of. And we're all winners when we do the best of. We get to stay home. For me, I get to stare at the TiVo and get drunk. For Drew, he gets to follow his kids around and live his life vicariously through the eyes of three young beautiful triplets. So in you guys get the best of Loveline. So without any further ado, here it is. The best of Loveline.
2:20🔗AdamLook out for the batteries in the lanes. Weather traffic coming up, traffic and weather coming up, traffic and weather coming up, then you die. That's going to be the name of my book.
2:36🔗AdamTraffic and weather at the top of the hour, at the top of the hour, at the top of the hour, and then you die. That's basically life. Just sitting around for the top of the hour. Trouble in the Middle East. Oh, hold on. Let me get my scratch pad. What was that he said? Trouble. Something is broken out in that garden, that garden part of the world. I can't believe there's trouble in the Middle East. Shocking. Shocking. Unbelievable. Can't be the people. Cannot be the people. Must be the soil. Soil? It can't be the people. It's got to be the air.
3:19🔗DrewNo, it's got to be the history of colonial domination.
3:24🔗AdamThat's right. Demand. I forgot about demand.
4:26🔗AdamBecause we talked a lot of people who, even with all the diet and all that Atkins stuff and stuff, and it's like, you're on a diet, oh yeah, what do you eat? I'm eating right, get up every morning, have myself a big bowl of oatmeal and a couple of bowls of special cane, half a sack of toast and a baguette.
4:49🔗AdamSome peanut butter, well actually I take the peanut butter and I roll it in two scoops of white flour, and I wash it down with some Ovaltine and then half a grapefruit, I'm on the road. It's like, yeah, I mean, Bill?
5:06🔗DrewBy the way, before you continue, I was in Cincinnati, middle of the country and I was invited to come have a dinner with some of the kids at the school, so the school presented the meal.
5:19🔗DrewLarge, large sort of macaroni noodles, a plate filled with them in a heavy cream mayonnaise based sauce with a couple of springs of cooked spinach on top and then goat cheese, just big hunks of goat cheese on top. What do people think of that? It was like fettuccine alfredo with goat cheese and that little green, little green, I think. It was like, oh my God, and then a huge piece of cake. I thought, I can't eat this.
5:46🔗AdamBill? Yeah. I've seen you eat worse. What do you mean? You go to the venting machine and get a thing of those miniature hostess donuts twice a week. What are you talking about? Donuts don't count. Bill? Yeah. All right, let's talk about your diet. What do you eat for breakfast?
6:01🔗CallerNothin. I don't get up early enough to have breakfast, so.
6:16🔗DrewWhat's the first thing you eat in the day?
6:19🔗AdamI just love on the show that takes 20 minutes to figure out what the person eats after they wake up. Oh, yeah. No, I don't. Well, I wake up about 8.45 in the evening and eat chili.
6:36🔗AdamEat chili and a baked potato at 8.45, and then eat lunch at 11.30 in the evening, and then eat dinner about 4 a.m. Bill, what time do you go to bed at night?
7:06🔗AdamYou ever hear that thing? They get more done by 12.30, or something like that. I remember, by the way, I remember seeing that ad campaign came out right when I was out of high school and cleaning carpets and going nowhere, and I was thinking, I'll join like the Coast Guard Reserve or the Navy or the Army or something like, we get more done by 6 a.m. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. Did you say 6 a.m.?
7:59🔗AdamAssistant manager. All right. I'm going to motivate you, brother. It wasn't so long ago. I was 19 and not so gainfully employed and had a bunch of roommates.
8:09🔗DrewWe've got to get his weight down about 40 or 50 pounds. That'll help the penis. Yeah. With all the extra fat, your estrogen levels go way up.
9:10🔗DrewYeah, well, he's taking gestion blockers because when you're on steroids, you produce extremely high levels of estrogen. You have to go to Comastia. Do not take that medicine, Bill. Jesus Christ.
9:20🔗AdamAll right, listen, you. Listen, nonskull. Listen to me.
9:25🔗AdamI'm a genius. And you're in Phoenix and you're a junior manager at a Caesars. Listen to me. I'm literally a millionaire.
9:35🔗DrewHe's a carpa cleaner. Listen to him, please.
9:39🔗AdamFirst off, quit taking those pills. Secondly, you're going to wake up and this guy's going to be beating you with a fireplace poker because he's going to be in some sort of roid rage. Got to lock your door at night when you sleep.
9:53🔗AdamOkay, none of that. No easy, no easy, no shortcuts, no easy ways out. You understand? All right. Stay away from the cheesy breadsticks over at the Little Caesar. Stay away from anything they serve there.
10:06🔗AdamWe got to watch the S-word, Bill. Bill's a guy who means well, but he's a 40 watt bulb at best. He's got plans. There's nothing worse than stupid guys with plans.
10:48🔗AdamYou, okay. Stop getting up at 1 o'clock. You're depressed. I go to bed at 2. I get up at like 9. You can do it. Set your alarm. Get up in the morning. Get up and do some exercise.
11:50🔗AdamYeah, but Bill's depressed and I hate that. And depression is the longer you sleep, the more you want to sleep, the more tired you are, the harder it is. It just, you get in this horrible spiral. All right. Let's talk to Mitch. I don't believe we've spoken to Mitch in like three years. Mitch?
14:29🔗AdamJust start sounding like one big noise to me. So how long have you been doing? How much you weigh, sweetheart? Are you using contraception right now? When did your dad start realizing? It just sounds like me. This is what's just white noise. I went to the sharper image. I got a machine that sounds like a teenager, she can't form sentences. It helps me go to sleep. All right. He wants to have anal with his girl.
15:20🔗AdamMitch. Yeah? Leave her alone. Okay. Leave her ass alone. You're fine. You're 17. You're lucky you're getting laid. And I'm not even sure if I believe this call.
15:29🔗DrewNo, of course not. But if there are others contemplating, it's ridiculous.
15:32🔗AdamPlus, you're calling from Utah. If you got busted doing this, you'll be stoned to death. Hey, Mitch, you think about going to college?
17:49🔗AdamI know. I know. It just sounds like I'm blowing my own smoke up my own took eye here. But one of the things that I find most interesting about the show is when I guess very specific things about the person's life. Uh-huh.
18:01🔗DrewWell, he was so unimpressed, I thought he was lying.
18:05🔗DrewThat's because I was thinking maybe it's a two-barrel carburet or something.
18:07🔗AdamNo. Listen, it would probably be a Holley. It would probably be somewhere around that size. It would probably have a 350. But Chevy makes many different kinds of engines. I have no idea what's in there. But God forbid anyone who listens to the show or calls in goes, hey, yeah, what do you know? That's something. How do you know that?
18:27🔗DrewThe classic was the one where the girl was talking about her boyfriend. Adam goes, where does he work? Is he working at a batting cage? She goes, yeah, a batting cage down at Congress Street. So anyway, we're like, huh.
18:38🔗AdamI guess her boyfriend worked at a batting cage. It was not impressive. Now, here's the thing. Let me tell you something about being stupid. Then I'm going to stop picking on everyone who calls the show. Go bright. All right. I'm not. But here's the thing. When your kid comes home and starts talking to you about people who are in his class, he doesn't say, this is my friend from class, John. He just goes, you know what John says? John says, and he expects you to know who John is.
19:14🔗AdamAt a certain point in life, you start realizing you have to say stuff like, a guy who's in my class named John thinks this. But when you're seven, you say that. Well, we have that same mentality of people calling it 17.
19:27🔗DrewAnd interestingly enough, it's people with actually quite low self-esteem that tend to get into that mode of thinking. And as I've pointed out to you before, we call that a piece of S around which the whole world revolves. That's the way they start to think of themselves.
19:41🔗AdamAll right, Mitch needs to stay away from junior college. He needs to focus on tech school and work on them cars.
19:49🔗DrewAnd maybe some auctioneering in the future.
21:32🔗Drew20 times a day. Not 20 orgasms, but 20 sessions a day?
21:38🔗Best OfYeah, kind of. Like, there's like little like, I don't know, I don't really want to get into it. It's kind of.
21:44🔗AdamYeah, that's obvious. You come right out of the gate with the vibrating dildo talk, but you're too demure to bring up how often you masturbate.
22:42🔗AdamNo, they do. They do. I think people think that if they...
22:45🔗DrewSTD is some sort of punishment. STD is a punishment for out-of-line behavior.
22:50🔗AdamWell, it's like they think they can get an STD from their boyfriend, even if their boyfriend has never had... doesn't have an STD because they're not wearing a condom. Right, right. You know what I mean? Like, we've beaten into everyone's head. You've got to wear a condom. You're going to get an STD. You're going to get HIV. Well, yeah. If the other person has something to protect you from...
23:10🔗DrewYeah, that you need to be protected from.
23:11🔗AdamNeed to be protected from, right. Katie.
23:57🔗AdamPull that off. All right. Maybe, though, maybe it probably could go down a couple pounds. You eating, right? The exercise on the side? The vibrating? Are you depressed? It seems like you're just compulsively... Oh, yeah.
24:11🔗DrewAre you sex addicted? Were you sexually abused growing up?
24:14🔗Best OfNo, actually, I'm Mormon. So, like, I wasn't sexually abused or anything. And, I don't know, I'm just... I think I'm addicted to it, kind of.
24:48🔗AdamAfter this. Loveline, we'll be right back. Hey, everybody, Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. We're all talked out, because when we're taking a tinkle, Drew was got up on his high horse, talking about religion and Aristotle and Socrates. Drew was really passionate.
25:23🔗AdamPassionate, man. I was staring at Drew. It was like when Aristotle wrote his famous, and I was looking down and going, boy, my whiz is yellow tonight. Aristotle said, and this is, and he was speaking of non-sectivitamin. Boy, it's almost orange.
25:44🔗DrewWhich is why, by the way, we don't speak of those things on the air because that's exactly what happens to all our listeners in the head at that point.
25:50🔗AdamWell, we bore them with other things. But what is it in the multivitamin that makes the whiz yellow? Is that the bee?
25:57🔗DrewThese are chromo, they absorb light at a certain frequency. It's just a ring structure, you know.
26:05🔗AdamI'll tell you, I understand I took the vitamin. Every once in a blue moon, you get that day glow yellow whiz. If I was a caveman, I saw that coming out of me. I'd chop my penis off with a club and then burn it. So it would never happen. It would freak me out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Beth? Yeah. Yeah, it's rough. I can't hit the sink here, you know? No, you could. It's tough. You know why? Because they did one of those things where the sink is set back like six inches from the edge of the counter. By the way, I have to stand on some phone books to get it. My parents have a place that we actually get up on Chris's shoulders.
26:40🔗DrewOne of their bathrooms made in the 60s and the sink is waist height. You have to get water. You have to bend over almost down to your ankles.
26:53🔗AdamYeah. People were shorter back then. I don't know. I don't know why that is. Yeah. A shower should be high and sink should... Well, I like to sink low so I can whiz in it.
27:39🔗DrewAnd is he very gentle with you or is he a little too aggressive?
27:42🔗CallerIt's both. I mean, we've been trying a lot of different ways, you know, but it all comes the same thing. It's like I get close and then it just starts... It's just too much and I have to...
28:21🔗DrewI just wonder if he's doing the right thing, as it were.
28:24🔗AdamYou gotta believe a seasoned veteran like yourself, a velvety tongue veteran like you could produce some better results. But we'll never know.
28:35🔗DrewBecause she's right in that age when she should be having orgasmic function. She's got a stable relationship. There's no reason you have any trauma around your sexuality, Beth? You like your boyfriend.
28:58🔗AdamShe's getting close. And the thing is, once you get that first one out, then they all just come popping out. It's game on. I'll tell you what you need to do. You're putting too much pressure on yourself. You're pushing too hard, then you're freaking out. How about a real easy session?
30:09🔗DrewIt's not a male on Earth that could have that experience.
30:11🔗AdamNo, a woman can't escape. I mean, if a woman actually, like if you were 15 seconds away from orgasming and her head popped off and blood just started squirting out, you'd be like, I gotta hurry. Now that means her.
30:53🔗AdamDrew, is it? You are, you are, you're a cougar-like passionate in your zest for lust. Your zest for lust. All right. I got stuff reading those Harlequin romances. Wow. Stella.
31:29🔗I'm 13. Wow. And I've done a lot of crystal and stuff. So I decided to change and tell my parents and everything. And so the like a day before I was going to leave and everything, I was trying to find my boyfriend and say bye, you know, again. And it turns out he killed himself, whatever. And so I went to rehab anyways, but I stayed there 21 days.
31:54🔗AdamWell, hold on. Your boyfriend killed himself.
33:21🔗Now everything's changed. I don't care anymore. I want to go back in it, but I want to quit. But I don't know what the f*** is going on.
33:29🔗AdamIt's like the F-bomb on the air. And casually, too.
33:32🔗DrewI understand that you're confused and ambivalent. Go to an NA meeting, raise your hand as a newcomer, and if you can't do that, go back to treatment. There's nothing your parents can do. You gotta do it for yourself.
33:44🔗AdamI saw a whole special on Dateline. I watch all those news magazines, 20-20 and Dateline and 60 Minutes, 60 Minutes 2, and I watch all that stuff. What do you got?
34:22🔗Adam2020. There's another, there's a sort of downtown show. When's this thing coming out?
34:27🔗DrewI'll tell you, I'll let you know when I get a date.
34:29🔗AdamAll right, well, quiet. Okay, here's what I want to say. I was watching the Dateline and I had these poor, these families they talked to, kids killed themselves. They're very, apparently, a little bit of an epidemic. These college students just killing themselves sort of spontaneously, not years of depression. Yeah, no, quite.
34:55🔗AdamYeah, it's good. A little fart go. Yeah, Chris likes a little fart. Don't talk. OK, here's the thing. Oh, no, nothing. I got nothing. OK, here's the deal. They do the whole thing and it makes a story. The bright kids, the parents love them. They're going off to college. Parents are visiting. You know, there's pictures of them on, you know, parent day and the visiting and popular and good looking. And both the kids that they profiled were good looking. They were young. One had like a hot girlfriend. All the whole thing, you know, fraternity, this and that. Nice guy. Pow! Fails a class or gets close to failing or something. It just kills himself sort of spontaneously. And then, you know, I saw I was watching it and I was thinking, well, please, they were depressed for years and stuff like that. And I thought to myself, well, here's the thing. You know, my mom was depressed. She locked herself in a room for 15 years. She never killed herself.
35:51🔗AdamAnd, you know, people do that. Oh, where were the warning signs? We blame ourselves. Where are the warning signs? If that were true, like I said, I should have been on the phone with the suicide hotline every 10 minutes of my entire childhood. Somehow, oftentimes, like this is just depressed people. They're just depressed. They don't kill themselves. So the whole warning sign thing is kind of weird. And I feel horrible for these families because they're like, we should have known, we should have done something. Meanwhile, they had like Mexico vacations, playing with the one kid that didn't show up. It's like, I was watching that, you know, I get mad at my parents. I watch NASCAR, I get mad at my dad. I watch anything. I watch the test pattern with the Indian, it makes me angry. But the thing is, is like they're going, what could we have done? We should have known we were supposed to meet her in Port of Ardor for her spring break vacation. She didn't show up. I was thinking, how can you blame yourself? I mean, yeah, there are things maybe you could have done, but the kid was off of college, the kid, you're paying for everything, the kid was going on a vacation with you. I mean, if this is the way it went, my sister should have killed herself like 30 times, like from age 11 to maybe 21.
36:56🔗DrewIf there were things you could have done.
36:58🔗AdamOr if there are things you did to get them to kill themselves, like I wasn't there enough or whatever. Is there a certain percentage of society, by the way, that just is going to kill themselves? I don't know how to answer that. How about the whole people, when you're 18 or 19, you will do stupid things quickly. You will have a couple of beers and think it's a good idea to jump off the roof and into the swimming pool.
37:22🔗DrewThat's the key. When I hear a sudden suicidal act in an 18 to 22 year old, a drug, and a story.
37:30🔗AdamI know. Look, they never, obviously, never came up and whatever, and they interviewed the guys' friends and they did the whole thing and everyone's friends and it didn't seem to be anything. I'm sure there was some drugs around. A quiet down because everyone does drugs in college.
37:46🔗DrewI know, and some people have horrible reactions to them. And there you go. The reality is though, listen, the thing about people when drugs is when there's drugs involved, people lie their ass off. And I know, just like you and I play Karnak here in this show, I know what the truth is. I can just smell it on people. And you have to go, no, it's not what happened. Here's what happened. Otherwise, they're going to BS you. And that's going to be the story on the news now. All right.
38:11🔗DrewI think hallucinogens can do this. Speed can do this. Opiates can do this. Alcohol can do this. And even when they're not even addictive, this is an acute reaction.
38:18🔗AdamWhat are they supposed to do? Just breathe the air and drink tap water? Well, it's still college for Christ's sake. Kid went to Arizona State, gotta do something.
38:48🔗AdamLike, I mean, literally. I was like, oh my god, there's a school at the, yeah, it's in Hurst Castle. I was like, oh my god. Believe, but look, here's the thing. They didn't talk about drugs, no one, there was a, they interviewed everybody. No one, the word drugs never came up. I'm thinking it would have, but if there was something, but the point is, is there's a certain, there's certain people who will, if there's a gun nearby, if depression sits in, they'll just do it. And the whole why, why, why, and why didn't we see the warning signs? We didn't see the warning signs.
39:19🔗AdamBecause there weren't any warning signs. And by the way, if everyone has said, oh, I'm having a rough day, or I'm pissed off, or I'm staying in the night, you guys go on about me, you'd just be on the phone all day long.
39:29🔗DrewYeah, there are warning signs, but very few people actually manifest them. That's why some people, when they're depressed, are very dangerous. There are people that we take care of for depression, and we say to ourselves, this one's dangerous, because this one will not warn us, he'll just do it. Right. That's nothing to do about that.
39:45🔗AdamWell, let's take a break. Drew, I'm going to need you to kill yourself during the break, just because I'm trying to prove the point.
39:52🔗DrewI need to give you some warning signs first.
40:16🔗AdamYou spray that on, you give stink the axe. Hey everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Engineer Chris, by the way.
40:39🔗AdamI said to him I just had to cut a quick commercial during the break. Had to come in in exactly 22 seconds. Of course, there was 45 seconds worth of dialogue there. But I said, hey, do you got a timer over there? And he goes, yeah, I could time it.
43:28🔗AdamOkay. You can say that. All right, here we go. It's amazing because I don't see as a behind the scenes sort of tech guy. I see upfront. You know what I mean? Hardware guy? No, I see as a motivational speaker, something like that.
43:49🔗DrewWell, Jeremy, I'll tell you what. Pod for some people is profoundly addictive and your dad obviously is one of those people and for you too. So it's something that requires some kind of treatment. You can't really expect it's going to stop because it's addiction. Addiction means you can't stop even when you want to. Now, having your dad smoking pot around you makes it essentially impossible.
44:09🔗AdamWell, he's mad at his dad for being an idiot too.
44:12🔗DrewOf course. But listen, it's like having a heroin addict living in a crack house. It doesn't work. You're going to use. And especially you're going to use if you don't get any support. So at least if you had some other people in your lab that are supporting you with this, you might have a chance. But without it, no way. So check out MA.
44:28🔗AdamWhen do you graduate ITT? 2006. It takes a few years, huh?
44:36🔗DrewWell, with the pot and all. He's due to graduate in December, but for him it's figuring 2006.
44:46🔗AdamGod forbid someone says, oh, it's an extensive program. It's actually a 24-month program. It's like, oh, so it's a two-year program.
45:07🔗AdamFirst year is mainly manual and tech stuff. And then the second year, we actually go out in the field and do an apprenticeship. So that's the second year. It says, yeah.
46:02🔗DrewAlso, Pod is just one of a series of drugs he's been addicted to. Pod is the one he's maintaining with now. It's bad times. He needs treatment.
46:10🔗AdamWell, at least he's getting some training on ITT.
46:41🔗AdamI love, by the way, by the way, bogus call when they just steamroll. They go, all right, well, don't shave it. Don't shave it so close. Just trim it down. Well, the reason I shave it is because I don't care what your reason. By the way, you shaving?
47:44🔗AdamWhen we left off, we were speaking to Todd. Todd, let's see, a little history. Drew went to his junior high or maybe high school and did a little speaking at some point. Yeah. I don't know what the hell Drew was thinking, but that's what he did. And then he called the show nine years ago. He's 26 now. He called when he was 17. I told him if he called back in 10 years and I was here, I would kill myself. He's called me to give me a little reminder to kill myself. I'm saying I got another year.
48:14🔗AdamYou know what I'm saying? And then he wanted Drew to give him a buzz off the air and then he started cracking wise. So I'm not exactly sure what Todd wants, but just because we have low self-esteem and a whole hour to kill, we'll get back with him. Todd?
48:36🔗What I called about was our relationship. Back then, I was serious with my girlfriend, and you guys told me to break up, go to college. And I did.
48:54🔗I went to the University of Southern California, the Trojans, and what I'm calling now about is the man. I'm 26 years old, went to college, working hard, and not a millionaire yet. And I know you guys are, so I wanted some suggestions on how to beat the man and how to beat the boss.
50:07🔗Adam2007, odd years, always better. What do you want to talk to Drew about off the air?
50:15🔗CallerI just want to say hi to him. And I mean, my real question is, guys, when should I get married? I mean, you know, kind of working towards my.
50:23🔗AdamWell, hold on. Do you have a serious girlfriend right now?
50:51🔗DrewHe needs to work his ass off and not worry about trying to find a way to get around the man. It's a work.
50:56🔗AdamI don't even know what he's talking about. I feel like we've created a monster.
51:00🔗DrewOnce again, I'm talking to you at 27. Where were you at 26, Adam? You could give him advice of what to do at 20. You know what I mean? Other than working your butt off.
51:09🔗AdamAnd look, here's the thing about marriage. As a guy, I don't really recommend it before 30. I agree with Drew. Get your career going, get your schooling done, get whatever you got to get going, and then do it. No rush at all.
51:22🔗DrewBy the way, Adam, for all the S we give you, about what you were doing, swinging a hammer before the age of 30, the reality is you were working your ass off. You were training boxing, you were teaching boxing, you were working your way through training as a carpenter, became a carpenter, worked as a contractor, and then did comedy training at night. It wasn't like you were, you know, hey, hey, what do you do? You work your ass off. That's what you do.
51:48🔗AdamWell, here's what you do without getting too preachy. Whenever you're done with your daytime job, you come home and do more work.
52:02🔗AdamBecause if you only go to work and do your job, you pretty much stay there. If you want to switch careers, you want to get further along, you got to come home at night and go to school.
52:18🔗AdamBut anyway, Todd sounds like he's going to be fine. And look, you can't go through life. I know a lot of other radio show hosts like us, I don't want to mention any names, have a bunch of retarded rules that you're just supposed to adhere to. Never spend more than this much on a date, never get married before this age, never do this after so many dates. Who the hell knows? Everything's out the window. Just live your life. Yeah, better idea to get married at 30 than it is at 20, but if you met the right person at 20 and that's where you were at, who am I to tell you you can't? There's no rules, you know what I'm saying?
52:55🔗DrewNo, no rules, but you do tell plenty of people at 20 not to get married.
52:59🔗AdamI do tell them to get married, but there's plenty of people who get married at 20 and are still married.
53:04🔗AdamThat was only six months ago, though, so. Right, yeah, still married. Todd, here's the thing. You almost sound like you have a personality problem. You sound creepy and narcissistic and like you're overcompensating, and you're going to be one of these guys that's financially successful with the soul of a nerd driving everyone nuts with your tasseled shoes and no socks, driving around your retarded Dodge Viper everywhere, or rolling up and down a Ventura Boulevard in your $14,000 Harley that you can barely ride. And you know how I can tell the guys who can't ride the motorcycles? When they take off from the stoplight, both feet stay down like outriggers for a hundred feet before they lift back up onto the peg. Those are the guys who can't ride the bikes. The guys who can ride the bike, their feet go right on the pegs before they start even moving forward. The signal changes, they start letting the clutch out, both feet up on the pegs. See what I'm saying, Drew?
54:00🔗AdamYou can always tell guys who can't ride bikes, their feet hang out. They're getting their balance all the way through the intersection, feet hanging out. They only put one foot down when they get there, they don't put both down. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Keep the right one down. Todd, don't trust him. Call him another nine years and get married whenever you want. Is there anything worse than a hungry guy for success? Do you know what I mean? Not a guy who is going to pursue his love or his dream, but I'm talking about the guy who wants to be successful for the sake of success.
54:41🔗DrewThat guy drives you crazy. You got to be doing something where you...
54:45🔗AdamThank God no one I know is interested in success.
54:49🔗DrewWell, you got to be interested in contributing. You got to be interested in being of service and doing something that's meaningful, or else the rest just doesn't work.
55:55🔗DrewMandy. And by the way, before we don't take calls, talking about taking calls.
55:59🔗AdamLet me just say this. When they say the shoes on the other foot, do they mean it's the same guy who puts a shoe on his other foot? Or is it your foot that the shoe is on?
56:10🔗AdamYeah. When I say, shoes on the other foot, now do I take your shoe and get to put it on my foot, or do I take your right shoe off and put it on your left foot?
57:00🔗AdamYeah. Don't take calls. Let me think if I should take a call. Pow, Mandy, 20 years old. Yeah. The worm has turned. I'll tell you that right now. And Drew, hold on a second. When they talk about worms turning, what do they mean? They mean it is actually turning and going the other direction, or is it turned on you or it was a worm? And now it's fighting back, you know, like a lion?
57:22🔗DrewYeah, I've heard that one, but that's not one I've used commonly enough to really understand.
57:26🔗AdamSo what about the shoe was on the other worm?
57:34🔗AdamWhat? What did you say? Don't take a call. Chris, did you say not take calls? Hmm. Not take a call. Let's see. Drew wants me not to take calls, but I am a rebel who does not play by the rules. And you know what? Drew is the voice of the man. He says, don't take calls. You know what I do? Pow. Mandy, 20. Hi. What's up, baby doll?
57:55🔗CallerWell, I guess I should start from the beginning. I'll make it quick though. I'm 20 and I just had my first orgasm like two months ago. And the only way that it happened, I've been trying forever. And when I asked my boyfriend to pretend to rape me, and I pretended to be like passed out. And that's the only time I had an orgasm. So I was like, since then, I've been like totally chasing that. I was like on the Internet, like looking at porn of like rape and doggy stuff.
58:28🔗AdamDoes he have to crawl in through the window and stuff? Or is he just to be a rapist who's there?
58:50🔗DrewSee, sometimes, we normally go towards more overt forms of abuse, but sometimes this kind of thing is just a subtle feeling of, oh, I'm ashamed of my sexuality, I'm guilty about it, but when somebody just takes over for me, then I can kind of give in to it. If he would just completely take over, I'm dead, he takes over, well, then I can experience myself sexually.
59:10🔗CallerMaybe, but I don't think I'm very ashamed of myself. I just think I like to feel kind of feelings that aren't controlled.
59:19🔗AdamWell, Mandy, so you pretend like you're asleep, he comes in your room and rapes you, do you get to wake up at some point?
59:50🔗CallerSo I've had to kind of figure out my own deal. So I've kind of really been getting into porn, and I finally, like for the first time in my life, was able to give myself an orgasm.
1:00:05🔗CallerBut now, since then, I've been doing it like six to ten times a day, and I've been like really hurting myself. Like my body is sore, and like I can't do it unless I hurt myself. Like I can't like get there unless it hurts.
1:00:19🔗DrewAll right. Well, you're doing too much. But that is something neurobiological that happens with women, is once they sort of get in that place where they're feeling sexual, feeling attuned to things, they're there. They said it'll roll for a while. And that is part of the biology. All right.
1:00:35🔗AdamSo Mandy, if you have not been abused in the past, and you haven't, right?
1:01:10🔗DrewI mean, resounding, resounding endorsement of dad.
1:01:13🔗CallerI mean, he like since those little kiddies and really open like we'll be watching TV, like we'll be watching The Man Show or something. And he's like, oh, so I'm like, oh, dad, like, I'm in the room.
1:01:28🔗DrewSo between being hit and having a dad that's sort of open sexually, they can actually call it covert incest, premature exposure to sexuality and things, they call it covert incest.
1:01:39🔗DrewYeah. So it does have an impact on some people.
1:01:42🔗AdamAll right. So listen, something's cooking with Mandy. You don't have to question your sexuality or your modes of orgasm or the way you achieve an orgasm. It's just when you start acting out, I think that's when you got to take a look at it.
1:02:00🔗DrewWell, and the question is, can she sustain a stable relationship? Can she back down off this Internet porn that she's getting hooked on? And if it doesn't sort of settle down, this is a common condition now. People get addicted to Internet porn. And while running for a little while with it is one thing, but to have it be a constant thing that has consequences and affects her productivity and her relationship, then you got to get help.
1:02:22🔗AdamYou know what I'd love to see, Drew? I would love to see some sort of statistic, like 1971, amount of times beat off in front of a computer. Two times.
1:02:39🔗AdamThose were two NASA guys who... And that was just over some text, some data.
1:02:46🔗DrewThey're excited about a result they got.
1:02:49🔗AdamIt's sad that something that was sent from like the Viking ship was deciphered and turned from numbers into a text message or something and they just spontaneously orgasm this too. 1975, that number had risen to 142. By 1980, it was up to like 1,700. And the year 2000, the number of people that got off in front of a computer, 400 million, and 2004, it's 1.7 billion.
1:03:29🔗DrewThen, they had to switch it like the McDonald's signs. The McDonald's signs became not number of people, but number of episodes, and it's 47 billion.
1:03:37🔗AdamAnd they started measuring in like gigabytes. Just think about that. Think about the number of guys who beat off in front of a computer in 1970.
1:03:48🔗DrewIt really had to be almost there. Same thing with the phone sex, same thing with VCRs.
1:04:07🔗AdamNo, here's the thing about phone sex. The second somebody had a phone, 10 minutes after there was a phone, somebody called their girlfriend and had phone sex.
1:04:16🔗DrewYou're right, or farted into the phone.
1:04:17🔗AdamOr farted into the phone. That was hopefully less than 10 minutes after the phone was invented. That's how it would have been, like Watson, come down here.
1:04:30🔗DrewI'm sure Marconi did that with the radio.
1:04:33🔗AdamThat was phones, but I say phone sex, maybe not 900 numbers, but phone sex probably started the minute a guy left town and found a phone. As far as VCRs go, the day after someone put one in their house, they got themselves a porn tape. The computer was probably around for 30 years before someone actually squeezed one off. And now you can't stop them. That's all I'm saying.
1:07:01🔗DrewI was thinking to myself, well, he's in Florida. He must have left the family. That's where all deadbeat dads go.
1:07:06🔗CallerNo, we left. Yeah, well, he did divorce my mom when I was five, but he would beat me whenever I was around him. Because I wasn't a very good child or something. I don't know.
1:07:18🔗DrewNo, he is a very bad father. He's a bad guy, a violent man. He's an a-hole. Children, think about it. What could a child do to make you want to beat the child?
1:07:59🔗CallerBut we went out for six months. We've known each other for about a year. And I totally fell for him, I'm crazy for him.
1:08:09🔗DrewForget it, forget it. Anybody you're totally into is going to be a bad guy. The horror of the abuse turns into attraction in your age group. And that you have to learn when you're really into a guy like that, it's going to be a disaster for you. But he's a good, he's an ex. He's an ex. He's an ex. Keep it that way.
1:08:27🔗CallerWell, like, okay, you guys are going to think I'm stupid, but like he smokes and he drinks and he does drugs and he cheat on me five times. But like some reason I can't get over him.
1:08:39🔗DrewDidn't I just tell you that? You got to.
1:08:40🔗AdamSee, Drew, you think you know it all, don't you?
1:09:10🔗AdamAll right, you're aware of that. Fine. Let me tell you a couple of things. One is, you cannot judge yourself or live your life by how attractive you are to men. I know that's all you feel you have right now. It's like you're a black comic with no material and all you can do is, what if the president was black? That's what you feel like. I'm saying you're better than that. You got more than that. You're actually, you're funny, you're talented. You don't have to do all that horrible material. You got more range than that. You can study. You can get involved with things at school. You can have female friends. You don't have to compete about being alluring to men because that's going to be a major issue for you and it's going to bring you down and you're going to get pregnant in eight months or a year and everything's going to be a mess and you're attracted to horrible guys and you're going to get your heart broken. This is something that you're not prepared to dabble in. Oh, you think you're big time because you were 12 and you had a 19 year old boyfriend.
1:10:13🔗CallerOh no, the only reason I went out with him is because I was scared and he was like, if you don't say yes, we're done.
1:10:21🔗DrewHere's the point. Oh, you did not say that but that's interesting what you heard.
1:10:24🔗AdamHere's the point. Stop it. Stop it. Focus on other things and don't get pregnant.
1:10:46🔗AdamI know you're not going to. You and every other ball of white trash from Arizona is 15 and having sex with adults, doesn't plan on getting pregnant.
1:10:59🔗AdamAll right. I'm gonna need to, I'm gonna need you. You know what I'm gonna need? I'm gonna need you to send me a picture of your hymen with a current newspaper, with the date on the newspaper visible once a month.
1:11:17🔗AdamAnd a dime for scale. Yeah, I wonder how big it is. Yeah, it's good. I like when they do that. I like when they put change next to the, oh, it's as if you're looking at a hearing aid. What is that? The size of a Buick? No, you idiot. Look, there's a nickel next to it. I don't know. That thing could be a huge hearing aid. You could need a forklift in order to get that into your house. No, no, no, look, there's a piece of change here. We got to come up with something better and change, yes? Fruit doesn't work because it moves. I like golf balls. All right, here's the thing. Alex Good, your virgin, don't get pregnant and don't trust your instincts with these guys. I don't think there's anything we can tell her, Drew.
1:11:59🔗DrewYou literally cannot control these behaviors. You must get help. That's it, very simple. Go to a 12-step meeting if you want. Go to a dependency meeting, that sort of thing.
1:12:07🔗AdamDrew, I'm going to officially say that dime for scale, yeah, funniest thing you've said in four years.
1:12:13🔗DrewThank you. I feel I'm moved. It's nice.
1:12:16🔗AdamAnd Drew, you know we talk about the yes and?
1:12:24🔗DrewBy the way, now that you explained to me what that works, I'm trying to pay attention. I didn't understand the concept until you explained to me a couple of nights ago.
1:12:32🔗AdamThe telephone in the VCR, not great examples.
1:13:15🔗AdamYeah! It's a hot song. Yeah. That's not the, it's getting hot in here. Let's take your clothes off song, is it? No. I love it when they play that at a wedding. It's getting hot in here. So take off. Oh, you're close. Please, please. I know. I like the background singers. It. I am so hot. I'm going to take my clothes off. Woo. Yeah.
1:14:03🔗AdamClose your eyes. You'll see them. Here we go. Break it down.
1:14:18🔗DrewMusic is like music. Music is like music. You know, that's why I stopped doing that. You know what I mean? Ever since we culminated in that crank anchors, that was it for me. That was it.
1:14:36🔗AdamBest work you ever done. Thank you. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. We're speaking to Justine. Justine is 20, she's in the S&M. It's starting to spiral out of control. It was, it started off the little rough trade, and now it's getting into some like close fist punching and some strangulation.
1:14:55🔗DrewNot some self, self-mutilation is the thing that...
1:14:58🔗AdamSelf-mutilation and then said was doing that in high school. We can't figure it out because her parents are middle class. Everything's cool. She says everything's fine. There's no abuse.
1:15:22🔗DrewOkay, what, that's what you could have told us.
1:15:25🔗CallerWell, I didn't realize that that had anything to do with it.
1:15:28🔗DrewAnything to do with your mental health would be helpful in interpreting these things.
1:15:31🔗AdamI mean, if you're doing something that's out of line, certainly by societal standards and you have an emotional condition, go ahead and tell us.
1:15:40🔗DrewBy the way, right there is the biggest mistake that people make about their behaviors. This whole idea of societal standards, throw that all away. We cannot judge, Adam. We cannot judge.
1:15:51🔗DrewBut there is a range of healthy behaviors outside of which people you got to evaluate in the context of there being something else going on.
1:15:59🔗AdamWell, Drew, just to, you know how I feel about these nut jobs. I just meant by societal standards, I meant the same thing you meant within the range of healthy behavior, but that range is measured by society.
1:16:15🔗DrewWell, society makes note of it and the reason it makes note of it is because there's a normal range, there's a healthy range. And for the most part, society sort of makes note of it and sort of codifies it in ways that may be kind of rigid and artificial, but for the most part, the reason society notices it is because it does mean something. It does mean something.
1:16:35🔗AdamWhy don't you get some help for your bipolar condition?
1:16:49🔗CallerSo here's something that is been over for, you know, But the fact that you couldn't regulate your feelings.
1:16:56🔗DrewYeah. Maybe your bipolarity was out of control then, and maybe that was partly what was going on, but the fact that you're all into the S&M and you're sort of needing that in order to feel sexual suggests that something else also happened.
1:17:08🔗AdamAnd look into it. It's all right. And here's the other thing too. This isn't healthy. It leads nowhere. And it's something that you should look at as a problem and attempt to control instead of indulging your win.
1:17:36🔗AdamI just realized, Drew, dropping names from 20 years ago. You know, I was talking over at Kimmel today. I've mentioned before that I've run into more guys from Massachusetts and the Boston area over the last like three years than I've ever met in the previous 37. And everyone is nuts with the Patriots and they're crazy. They're ravenous fans over there. They're crazy. They're sort of like, I imagine they're what Yankee fans would be except for without the sort of security of the 30 World Series rings, you know? They're like, they're as into it as Yankee fans are except for they're hungry and they're drunk and a fair amount of a-holes from that part of the country I've now figured out. Here's the thing. For the last five years, it has been nothing but Red Sox talk at the office. It's Red Sox jerseys, it's guys doing rituals, you know, not changing their shirts, coming in wearing, you know, half uniforms, essentially, and just monopolize discussion, it's on the internet, whatever. And I thought, you learn to accept it, living in Los Angeles, that you're in an office environment with guys that are fans of 30 different teams, and you just sit there. But once in a while, I think to myself, could you imagine for a second this going on in Boston? And I announced today, here's my fantasy. My fantasy is to become rich enough to hire like 10 A-hole Dodger fanatics and send them to Boston and have them just take over a floor of some business and do nothing but monopolize everyone's time talking about Dodgers. Dodger this and Dodger that. Not getting any work done all day, just on the internet, looking up Dodger stuff. Fantasy baseball. Yeah, fantasy baseball. But it's all Dodger talk. And by the way, how long would that last?
1:19:39🔗AdamYeah. LA, here's all you need to know about LA. All you need to know about how apathetic. English is a fifth language here in Los Angeles, and you can't communicate with the average guy on the street because there's a serious language barrier. Not only that, but you can go to any place of employment around Los Angeles, sit down and be monopolized with talk of teams from other cities. Nothing but. Nothing but Steelers and Patriots and Red Sox and Yankees. It's all that goes on. There's nothing but that. Where else does that exist, Drew?
1:20:20🔗DrewThere's so much else about Los Angeles that you could say, where else does that exist? And it applies. Where else does that exist? You have a little Ethiopia, but no little Italy.
1:20:29🔗AdamWhat are we going to do? When is this city going to get straightened out?
1:20:34🔗AdamAnd, you know, here's the thing. There's too much diversity in this city. Like in Boston, they got the Sox. Everyone likes the Sox. And the whole city can rally around the Sox. We got nothing close to that over here. We got a little Ethiopia and La Brea Tar Pits.
1:21:17🔗DrewThere will be no more calls on this show.
1:21:19🔗AdamAha. I'm going to talk to Christie. Go ahead, Christie. Don't listen to Drew. I make the calls around here. And you know what? I take them too. Go ahead, Christie.
1:21:31🔗Best OfWell, my boyfriend this morning, we've been together a year now. And as the blue, as you know where he was, like, what would you say if I wanted to move to Texas?
1:21:42🔗AdamNo. No. Dr. Drew, come through the annals of your mind if you've ever been right about anything.
1:23:08🔗AdamNot what you thought or not what you felt, but what he said. You want us to interpret what? I understand, Sgt. But there's a difference between someone saying, look, I have a very unique opportunity that may not come around for another 100 years, and it's in a different state. I got to jump on this thing. That's a different thing than a baby.
1:23:30🔗DrewYeah. And you're asking us to interpret what it means that he's wanting to leave, and you've already decided it's a commitment problem. We have no idea why he wants to leave.
1:23:37🔗AdamIt doesn't sound great, but is there a job opportunity over there?
1:23:46🔗Best OfBut he's not really close to his family.
1:23:49🔗AdamBut he must have said to you something like, I can't find a job out here, I'm going to go to work.
1:23:57🔗Best OfNo, he has a job out here. I just don't think he's very happy with his living arrangements right now and stuff. But he's really hard, like he won't open up to me about certain things. And I don't know how to approach him about what's going on.
1:24:12🔗AdamI'm not sure if you would hear it even if he told you.
1:24:15🔗DrewRight, right. He has to say at least 126 times.
1:24:22🔗AdamI still refuse to believe that he just said I'm thinking about moving out of state. He must have said something like I hate my job or I can't afford this city or I want to move home and save some money.
1:24:37🔗Best OfHe's having financial problems but he didn't mention that before. He said anything like that.
1:24:43🔗DrewWe can't go on. It's all in the history.
1:24:45🔗AdamEverything is in the history. I'm going to interpret this because I would rather talk to the gnome that gets towed around in the bed of the pickup truck on the Toyota commercial than Christie. I really think I could get more information out of that carved midget. Here's the red coat and the red hat. Here's the thing. He is not in love with Christie. I don't know that he hates her.
1:25:12🔗DrewIf he is, he will say, you need to come with me.
1:25:14🔗AdamYou need to come with me. Here's what it is. This town ain't working out for him. He's getting homesick. He doesn't have any money. I'm guessing because he doesn't have any money, his job sucks.
1:25:25🔗DrewHe's miserable and he's doing geographic. He's trying to make a change or make himself happy.
1:25:29🔗AdamHe's trying to shake things up and move. If he asks you to come with him, that's one thing. If he says, I'll call you when I get there, probably means this thing, you can put a fork in it.
1:25:41🔗DrewAnd if he doesn't mention either, pack it in.
1:26:18🔗AdamAll right. Sorry. But look, you're 23. He's 30. He's a loser, by the way. He's 30 years old. And by the way, I started having some success when I was 30. So now I can speak freely about 30 year olds that are losers.
1:26:31🔗DrewYou had a illustrious career in carpentry and boxing instruction and a few minutes of the morning radio at 30.
1:26:38🔗DrewI still would have told you to kill yourself.
1:26:40🔗AdamAll right. Drew, what are you writing? A biography on me or something? How do you know my timeline so well? Christie, what does he do for a living?
1:26:49🔗DrewWhat are you talking about every night?
1:26:50🔗AdamAll right. Quiet down. What? Cut him off, Anderson. What did, Christie, what's he do for a living?
1:26:59🔗AdamNo. OK. He's a 30-year-old cook who has a crappy job, can't afford his one-bedroom apartment. So what? Let the guy go. Let him go. He's a commitment-phobe. Let him go cry back home to mommy and sling his hash.
1:27:22🔗AdamListen, ladies, you're 23. By the way, when a guy is 30 and he's still slinging hash and he can't cut the rent on his studio apartment in Boulder, forget it. You know what I'm saying?
1:30:13🔗AdamAlright. You know where to hang out. And you know, in a way, I guess if you're gay, you kind of become like drug addicts where you just... you got to go to the places where the stuff is.
1:30:26🔗AdamYeah, I know that sounds horrible, but what I mean is... Look, you want to get some sex and you can't be wasting your time in some Starbucks where there's no gays. I mean, you got to go to where the action is. Yeah?
1:32:18🔗DrewWell, then go to SA. Because then you're an addict in general. You've been addicted to something else first and or you've been sexually abused or both. And this has to be dealt with. And if you don't remember it or you can't put it all together, then fine. But you've got to process this material because it's having a consequence, having an effect on your life.
1:32:35🔗AdamTyler, AT., any girlfriend or both virgins, she won't have sex, but dating for a year, she religious?
1:33:14🔗AdamOh, really? In her 30s? Yeah. Well, then maybe mom was just... All over her... .nailed that home. Alright. Look, Tyler, you cannot put the screws to her. Pardon the pun. You'll freak her out. She'll recoil. Just play casual.
1:33:30🔗DrewI'm going to be more honest about what her goals are. But she should declare her major here.
1:33:35🔗AdamBecause you can use birth control if that's a cause. But on the other hand, don't come at her with your junk swing and wind. Just pretend like you don't want it either for about 10 seconds and then jump on her. We'll be back. Well, there you go. Two fabulous hours of the best of Loveline. So, until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.
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