1:27🔗AdamWell, we have a lot of people here tonight, from Life Is We Know It, or Sean had to sit here and hear me scream for only about four and a half minutes.
1:36🔗Sean FarisThat was all right, it was entertaining.
1:38🔗DrewWell, Adam, the deal is, I don't know any guest that hasn't had to sit there and listen to you rant before the show starts. Usually, you were here 30 seconds before the show starts, so they only hear 30 seconds. Tonight, you were here four and a half minutes before the show started. So, Sean had to hear all four and a half minutes.
1:56🔗DrewBut it was very productive, four and a half minutes, wouldn't you say? We got a lot to talk about the show.
2:01🔗Sean FarisWe got through quite a bit. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
2:03🔗AdamI covered a lot of ground. I mean, we got a lot of material out there. I don't know if we worked out some of the beats of tonight's show. We got into some tomorrow night. Drew got the dry erase board. Before every show, there's a show meeting.
2:15🔗DrewBy the way, speaking of show meetings, I'm getting intense feedback in my headphones. I know you're getting that.
2:20🔗AdamI'm getting marginal to irritating feedback.
2:24🔗DrewYeah, our voice muffled a tenth of a second behind.
2:35🔗AdamAll right. Anderson did nothing. It's one of these things, by the way, where people normally hit the back of the ear. People normally want credit for fixing things, but not in the engineering world, because it means you had some potentiometer in the wrong place or some knob that wasn't turned or some switch that wasn't turned.
2:49🔗DrewNot only that, it might mean you have to move. Next time, there's a problem.
2:51🔗AdamYou don't want to have to come on. No, it's just three quarters of the time something goes wrong. It's like, check the board, check the board. No, no, no, no. Oh, there we go. About to 26 now. All right, so this is horrible. What should we do? I can do it because I just keep talking.
3:16🔗Sean FarisOh, not much. I'm just sitting here listening to your rant and rave.
3:19🔗AdamI'm done. It's now all going to be about you, unless you remind me of something I'm angry about. Life as We Know It, ABC, 8 o'clock, Kelly Osborne is on it. Who else is on that show besides Kelly?
3:31🔗Sean FarisQuite a few people actually. John Foster, Chris Lowell, Missy Peregrine plays my girlfriend.
3:36🔗AdamChris Lowell, but not Christopher Lowell.
3:40🔗Sean FarisNo, I call him Chris. I mean, his parents may call him Christopher.
3:44🔗AdamNo, not the bearded guy who's on the towel network that I discovered when we were on the road. The world's gayest man.
3:51🔗DrewYes. Adam found him once when we were in Shreveport or something and he came with his towel on, running down the hall, demanded I turn my TV on immediately to see the gayest man in America.
4:04🔗AdamThen he went to the bathroom, looked in the mirror and saw the second gayest man in America shaving.
4:09🔗I can do it. You can do it. Look for the areas, fill that space, all right? The whole idea about creating focal points in your room is keeping your eye trained for those little details. It's those little details that make the home yours.
4:25🔗AdamIt's awesome. You know what I've learned from Christopher Lowell? You can spend two weeks and $2,200 taking PVC pipe and creating faux bamboo, or you can actually just go buy some real bamboo. That's what I've learned. It costs $0.18 a linear foot. But yeah, taking a little putty, putting it around the thing that's spray-painting it, beige. And at the end, what do you got?
5:05🔗AdamLife is we know it. Why should our audience go out and watch Life is We Know It? I'm sure most of them do already, but it's small handful that don't. Why should they do it beside you?
5:15🔗Sean FarisIt's definitely the most real drama for teenagers on TV today and probably in the last five years. A lot of people have compared the show to My So-Called Life. Right. They suffer with three guys. It's a great thing because you get to see what really goes on in the guy's head. We all go through life playing the role and this and that, but then you never see the insecure sides or the questioning sides or the emotional side. You get to see that in our show whenever the guys have a private moment to camera.
5:46🔗AdamDid you come out to LA when you're 18? How old are you now?
6:05🔗Sean FarisThe actual ride from Ohio to LA was actually quite fun.
6:08🔗AdamAnd when you got out here, did anything good like, did you have $18 in your pocket? Did you come out here alone? Did you come out with your family?
6:16🔗Sean FarisActually, my best friend drove across the country with me and then flew back three days later because he absolutely hated LA.
6:27🔗Sean FarisYeah, he was from a smaller city and I think it was a little bit of culture shock for him. But he couldn't take it. It was too much. Yeah. So I bought him a plane ticket.
6:34🔗AdamIf you drive from Ohio, how do you even know when you're in LA? You just stop at a gas station, some guys are like, I must be in Sri Lanka or something. Then you're in Mexico, then you're in Japan. I even know when you're in Los Angeles.
6:49🔗Sean FarisWhenever you hit the traffic, that's how you know you're in LA.
7:05🔗AdamSo you came out 18, you get an apartment, what do you do?
7:09🔗Sean FarisYeah, I came out, I got an apartment. It was really hard to find an apartment too because no one would rent to me, I had no credit. I had some money for an apartment, but I didn't have any credit history, I was too young, out of state co-signers because all of my family was from out of California.
7:56🔗AdamIf anyone ever sees the original Pearl Harbor, maybe it's Tor Tor Tor. Yeah, well anyway, the original movie, it's incredible stunt. You ever seen it, Drew?
8:07🔗AdamIt's crazy stunts and you just start to realize as you start watching back then, like 1972, they didn't have strong unions and there's no like OSHA or anything.
8:19🔗AdamHalf the stunts were, I don't know if you saw the original, I think it was Tor Tor Tor, was it? Obviously, someone put a cinder block on the accelerator, some scrapped P-40 and just let it sail into a pyramid of gas cans. Guys are just running but stuff's flying. I mean, it's like, look, hang out here until it looks like the plane gets too close when it gets about 30 feet away, start running, and hopefully a bear, a 55-gallon drum, won't hit you.
8:51🔗AdamThere was no such thing as CGI. There were no unions and it's like, look, you want to make 100 bucks? Come here, put this uniform on and stand by these barrels, but don't chicken out on us. We can't have you running before the plane's got to get close.
9:04🔗DrewAll right, first run this 40. Here you go.
9:07🔗AdamFour and nine, not bad. All right, no movement until you hear metal on metal or you see flame or you feel flame. Then you move. You watch that movie. It's all the stuff that's going on at the time. The new one is spectacular as well. When I say new, the three-year-old one is spectacular, but the old one, people running and props, spinning like flying by and stuff like that. No, they didn't play in that. It's not on a cable or anything. It's just, you know, catch is catch can, as they say. People were expendable back then, wasn't it a big deal?
10:00🔗AdamHe's doing luck. He's sold his soul. So you're just going to Hawaii. So you're in LA for a week. You get the gig and then they shoot. They shot a lot of it in Hawaii. That's what I got. Pearl Harbor. What do you think? It's in Long Beach.
10:27🔗Sean FarisThey shot at the Battleship, Texas in Houston. And then we also shot in Corpus Christi on the Lexington. It's a huge aircraft carrier. That was dope.
10:37🔗AdamBut you weren't, were you on the airfield?
10:40🔗Sean FarisYeah, we just shot at Van IJzerfield here in California.
10:42🔗DrewHey, Van IJzerfield. You're right, not Long Beach.
10:45🔗AdamHey, listen, you know, YMA and Van IJzerfield, it's like the same place. Same place.
10:54🔗DrewBy the way, how do you know when you're at the airport at Van IJzerfield? It's all asphalt, concrete.
10:58🔗AdamWell, it's true, but it's like, well, I guess some of the shots they had, like flying over and stuff like that.
11:03🔗Sean FarisYeah, that was fun, man. That was cool, though.
11:06🔗Sean FarisNo, I didn't get to fly with them, but they had flybys where the planes flew over like maybe 20 feet above us. And they were saying that that's the only time that they will ever fly again. Those P-40s. So we were the last ones to ever see those planes up in the air because they pulled them straight out of museums.
11:25🔗Sean FarisI was actually, I was actually a tail gunner in the movie and I had to play with these broomsticks in the back. They had fake little broomsticks for me to play.
11:32🔗AdamAnd I'm black. Yeah. You know else painted those broomsticks black? Little guy by the name of Doolittle who took those first bomb, bombing over Tokyo.
11:42🔗Sean FarisWell, that was the Doolittle Raiders. That's what we were.
11:44🔗AdamWell, there you go, Drew. Do you understand? We took, they took bombers off an aircraft carrier like just a year into the war. Maybe not even a year in the war. Do you know this story?
11:59🔗AdamAll right. Here's what happens. You stop me from wrong. Okay. The Japs, as we knew them back then, bomb Pearl Harbor. We got our fleet wiped out, but of course we got our carriers are out at sea. So we save our carriers, but we're in really bad shape. We've not been ramping up for this war at all. Our fleet's wiped out. We're pretty bad. We need to do something for morale. We need to strike Japan. But we don't really have any way to get to them. So Doolittle, who was a pilot and commander, and then later on, I don't know, Brigadier General or something, he had an amazing career, this guy. But he gets some B-29s. You know, not B-47 type of plane, but like a B-29 or something like medium size bomber. But no one has ever taken them off an aircraft carrier before. The whole aircraft carrier thing is relatively new, and it's just a smaller fighter plane to take off. So they do these tests where they lighten them, and they take out the tail guns and stuff, and they put broomsticks in there. So they think the Japs, they think they're guns back there. There's broomsticks in there. They lighten them, they do these tests to see if they can get off the ground in 200 feet or wherever they got to work. They figure out they can just do it, but they don't have enough fuel to get back and stuff. So they're going to take like, I don't know, a squadron of these things off just to symbolically drop bombs on Tokyo. So we can say to the Americans, we bombed them now. We can get to them even if it wasn't really going to cause any damage. We didn't have enough ammunition in these little planes, and the range wasn't good enough. So they're driving the carrier in in the Pacific, and all of a sudden they get spotted by some spotter plane or something, and they're 300 miles further out than they need to be before takeoff. But they figure, we got to take off now because he's going to radio back, but now they're too far. So they take off, they drop their bombs in Japan, they're going to like, they have to ditch in like China, and half the guys get like executed, and half the guys make it back, Doolittle makes it back, but essentially suicide mission. I mean, probably someone could do a full-length feature on that whole story. Doolittle makes it out, everyone has to ditch their planes, everyone runs out of gas, no one's got enough to make it back, and I don't think they could land those B-29s or B-18s or whatever the hell, B-19s, whatever they will, on a carrier anyway. So they all ditch, some guys get like executed, some guys die in the crash, and like half the guys or three-quarters of the guys make it out. Am I right, Sean?
14:37🔗Sean FarisIt sounds to me like you watched Pearl Harbor right before you came over.
14:40🔗DrewI did. I watched the History Channel, or Hitler Channel as we call it.
14:43🔗Sean FarisThat's pretty, that's word for word, that's exactly the way it was.
15:09🔗CallerWell, here's the deal. I've been with the same girl for about 10 years now. And we're all but married. We live together. She basically the situation is if she's going to college, she's about ready to graduate, I've hit and missed with some courses and really have never found anything I really like or really want to do. Both her family and mine.
15:34🔗AdamLet me tell you about the Baton de France.
15:47🔗CallerNo, that's cool. Basically, I guess, instead of beating around the bush, pretty much what I'm getting at is neither one of our families have gone to college. I really just don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do. If I don't get into school, she's just going to dump me, just leave me.
16:01🔗DrewNow, it's hard to... One thing about being a married couple is you have to appreciate the world the same way, have a similar understanding of the world, and have to be able to share ideas and things. If she is well beyond you academically, it may be uncomfortable. She may be resentful and frustrated. She may have different expectations of her life script as compared to yours. What does she wants to do and wants her husband to be doing, the kind of family she wants to raise.
16:30🔗CallerI can understand that. I guess the biggest deal is that, is that normal for a family who doesn't go to school, and then all of a sudden, I've been to college. Like I said, I've taken some courses, nothing major. I just really can't make up my mind.
16:46🔗DrewIf you went to junior college, it's not college.
16:48🔗AdamNo. It's college. Here would be my policy if I ran a university. I'd be like, you've done two years of junior college? Well, now you got to do six years.
16:59🔗AdamIf you've never done any junior college, I would have let you do four. You get your degree in four. Now it's six. Now let me do the math. My mom's done 33 years of junior college. Well, she'd be dead before she ever got her four-year degree. But that two years shouldn't count as two years. It should be added on to your time. Like an escape attempt in the joint. You know what I mean? It's added on. I would look at junior colleges like a warden. I'd say, oh, I added on. That's bad behavior. Been fighting in the yard. Tyler?
17:39🔗AdamOh, I didn't even hear him. Too busy yelling. Okay, here's the thing. College isn't for everybody. And if you're just going there poking around, and being a student isn't for everybody.
17:50🔗DrewBut that's not what this woman's looking for, I suspect. Either she wants to be married to a certain kind of person, or have a certain kind of family, or to be able to share a certain way with someone. And it may not be Tyler.
18:00🔗AdamBut Sean doesn't have a college degree, but she'd be on top of him. Like it is split. No, women are attracted to guys who are doing their thing.
18:10🔗DrewYou look, you don't... Competency is something they're into.
18:13🔗AdamYeah, but being competent, but also moving in a direction.
18:19🔗AdamYeah, the college part doesn't matter if you're opening your own restaurant, or you got your own clothing line that you're designing, or whatever, you're building mountain bikes. You know, they need to see playing bass guitar, whatever. They need to see somebody moving in a direction. When they see the guys sort of spinning around and just bumping off each wall and caroming back to another, that freaks them out. Because women feel like, look, this guy's got to protect, he's got to provide, he's got to do whatever. And I know it's 2005. Women still think that way.
18:53🔗DrewWell, they're still wired that way to be attracted to that.
18:55🔗AdamThank you. Yes. Vogue and Cosmo have attempted to talk them out of it, but they're still wired that way. They do want a guy to stand up and go, listen, sweetie, it's cool. I'm going to handle it. Don't worry about it. You make the babies. I'm going to make the cash and then I'll be banging my secretary. Oh, no, don't say that part. That's the part. That's what I should see. I always keep going.
19:19🔗AdamI got to stop right at cash. That's where I need to stop. The point is that I want to see someone wandering around. So forget about college and forget about that part where you go like, well, she just doesn't, she wants to cut. No, she wants you to want to know what you want to do. She wants you to make a move. She wants you to do something. You're 25. It's time to go.
19:58🔗AdamSecond-case man alive. Admit it, I'm smarter than you are. Yeah. But what it means, you and I would be fine. I got put on academic probation at junior college.
20:07🔗DrewBut if you were married, I could understand. But you sort of educate yourself.
20:47🔗DrewYes. This is an irony that has not escaped me. I can't deal with it.
20:52🔗It's the universe is conspiring against me to ever listen to you guys again. I started listening to you guys in the late 90s in Austin, Texas, and I'm visiting my sister in Washington, DC and I've been listening to you guys for the last several nights. Tonight, I turned on the radio about 20 past 10, and I thought you were playing the Ranchero game, the Ranchero game, because the affiliate is now a Ranchero station.
21:42🔗DrewAs God is my witness. It's a great station. One of our favorite stations. Does not exist. We are off. And they are off. Lisa Wharton, not director of anywhere. Those liners we did last night.
22:06🔗AdamWell, let's look at it this way. What... I mean the fastest growing population in this country is Latin, right? Latino, right? And if there's, you know, if you got a radio station and you got 35, you know, gringo stations battling out for your little piece of the pie, and there's one Mexican station...
22:26🔗DrewSomebody wants to buy you and you're the first one in line. Look, look, she's got an online now.
22:40🔗AdamThis is a bad sign. Yeah. And by the way, Ranchero Music, I really am going to...
22:46🔗DrewI'm going to sackrace himself for this. Is that why he went to the Pacific?
22:50🔗AdamDo Little ditched his B-29 in Bacchoy so you guys could listen to a horrible accordion-driven music. I swear to God, these people have some sort of gene that doesn't let...
23:11🔗AdamThere's some sort of gene that's built into Mexican that doesn't... Here's the deal. If you pump this in to the music, if you put a bunch of blue-eyed people in the room and pump this in and just left a number two pencil in the middle of it, you'll come back an hour later, it'll be blood all over the place. It's like an artery stab. It'd be like a Tarantino movie. It'd just be a pile of bodies when you came back.
23:34🔗DrewI mean, when I hear that music, I just shut my eyes. I immediately think of the Lincoln Memorial in the mall in the winter before the cap in the building off in the distance. Immediately the music that brings out those images.
23:46🔗AdamI mean, honestly, the whole Kennedy family. I mean, when you picture like Camelot, play that music. I think this is the theme song to their lives. This is what you picture in the background. You see the Lincoln Memorial.
24:13🔗DrewBecause some other station might convert.
24:15🔗AdamSo you really think that Aces, Sean, we play a little game called Aces Mexican Ranchero Accordion Countdown on the show where we fire up a ranchero song and then guess how many seconds before the accordion fires in. You think that doing this over the last few months.
25:26🔗AdamThat was for the radio. Yeah. Sean Faris is here tonight. Yeah. You know what we got? We got an Aston Kutcher type scene going on here. A little older, dark haired woman, beautiful young male. He looks like Ashton, doesn't he?
25:40🔗AdamNo, let's just take Drew's the second case man alive. He knows. I know. Sean Faris is here tonight from Life As We Know It. All right, we got to take a break. We'll hopefully talk to Eva. Really? Okay, one more time. Eva? No.
25:57🔗AdamAll right. We'll take a quick break. Be right back after this. Yeah. What's happening? It's the Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Sean Faris is here. Tonight.
26:15🔗AdamReeling over the format change of one of our oldest affiliates, WHFS in Washington, DC., one of the biggest. I would go out to that. One after the HF Festival. It was in RFK Stadium. Run out of initials soon. There's like 65,000 people there. Huge station.
26:36🔗Sean FarisI just find it hard to believe there's such a large Latin population in Washington.
26:40🔗AdamWell, maybe they're trying to attract some. I don't know why, but they're trying to attract them. Maybe they, what, Drew?
26:52🔗AdamI really do think it's a numbers thing. If you have 30 white stations and three Latin stations, you'd be better to compete in that market. I just wonder why the signal is so strong. I know over here the signal is strong because it comes out of Tijuana and they don't have like FCC regulations on their amperage of the wattage of the whatever. But you're driving around, you can't get anything and pow, you get hit with some horns and a sombrero.
27:20🔗AdamYeah, sorry, that was a stupid question. Well, maybe it's time to play Ace's Max in Ranchero According Countdown.
27:26🔗DrewIf you want. Sure. Just to do an homage to HMS.
27:29🔗AdamYeah. Sean Faris is here tonight from Life Is We Know It, 8 o'clock on ABC Thursday nights. That's tomorrow night. This is how the game is played. Good ranchero music does not go on very long without an accordion. Question is, is we take a random ranchero song, yes. Michelle queues it up in a random spot too, not at the beginning per se, just fires up a random ranchero song in a random spot. How long? How many seconds before we hear that accordion kick in? Sean. Three.
28:06🔗AdamAll right. Drew is going instant. A lesser man would go four seconds. I'm going four and a half. Fair enough. No. I'm going five seconds. I'm going five seconds. All right. And we should make that rule. It's got to be a two second buffer. You got to put a second in between. All right. I got five. Sean's got three. Drew goes instant. All right. Five, four, three, two, one, go.
28:52🔗AdamSo Drew wins. Shocking. Shocking. But then then the big the big riff came in about eight seconds or so. All right. Drew wins with instant. The coward's way. You're ready to go? Here we go. All right. Maybe we'll convert another affiliate before the night is through.
29:08🔗DrewWhere we're going, maybe a few affiliates.
29:10🔗AdamSteve? Hello? Steve, hold on. Michelle, do you speak any Spanish?
29:19🔗No, but I can kind of understand it because my parents, they used to speak behind our backs and let me know what's up.
29:24🔗AdamTell me what you've got for Christmas. Yeah. They say things like, this year for Christmas, I stop raping her.
29:36🔗AdamYeah. Now I know how it goes. Here's the point. I'm going to need a translator soon, and I'll just be sitting and go ranting. I was talking about left turn arrows and my grandmother, and having to translate it into little, and this guy was going long-winded rants about me, and then I'll have time to breathe. I'll just sit on a stool and drink Gatorade while he fills me in, although they speak faster and we do, Drew. So 10-minute rant is only going to be about four, four and a half minutes, but we'll work it out. Why can't they list to some provocative talk radio?
30:27🔗Sean FarisThey say 60 last week in New York.
30:29🔗AdamYeah, they say New York might get up 70 or something. All right. There beer, buddy. What's going on?
30:39🔗CallerNothing. I just, I don't know. I just I got back from Iraq about three weeks ago and I went to a psychiatrist and I'm going to a therapist and I'm going through some serious things because I saw some pretty terrible things over there.
31:01🔗AdamWhat did you see? People die? Friends die?
31:06🔗CallerWell, I was escorting a Humvee and there was about a 12 year old kid, I don't know, 10, 12, whatever. And he had a RPG pointed right at the Humvee and I killed him.
31:46🔗CallerYeah, well, yeah, one in the forehead.
31:51🔗AdamAll right, well, but the guy had an RPG, right? Yeah, but I mean, I mean, listen, no, no one wants to kill a ten-year-old, but, you know, better, better that than him pull out, you know, you're on the streets of Chicago, your company pulls out a squirt gun and you think it's a nine millimeter and you kill the kid.
32:28🔗AdamRight. Well, did you, did that turn out to be true? I mean, it wasn't, wasn't a cardboard tube on there with like a styrofoam grenade, right?
32:37🔗CallerIt was real. We, we, after I killed the kid, I, well, not just me, but my whole squad went over and checked out and it was real.
32:50🔗AdamAnd was he, was he coming for you guys or was he going somewhere else?
32:55🔗CallerWell, he was, well, the only thing that was there was the Humvee and the Escort, my squad.
33:04🔗AdamAll right, so you did what you had to do. I mean, you can still be freaked out, but I don't, I, you know, emotionally killing 11-year-old sucks, but killing an innocent one sucks more, sucks much more, I would imagine. I'm not telling you you can't have feelings about it, but there's really enough, you had no alternative.
33:26🔗DrewHow about displacing some of that anger onto the parents, send a kid out like that and encourage that kind of behavior? That's where your anger ought to be placed.
33:33🔗CallerWell, yeah, actually, Drew, I wanted to talk to you about that.
34:10🔗DrewDid you have previous trauma growing up, something else that set you up for all this?
34:15🔗CallerNo. Actually, my parents are very wealthy, and they were very upset that I joined the Army, and I graduated from Northwestern about two years ago. I don't know. It's just-
34:36🔗AdamWell, look, here's the thing. All right. Let me just summarize everything here. First off, when you put a bullet through an 11-year-old three weeks ago or four weeks ago, whenever it is, you're not supposed to be over a year.
34:47🔗AdamSecondly, your depression level oftentimes is connected to what's going on.
34:53🔗DrewWell, that's the point. People that have PTSD almost always have something we call a pre-morbid condition. Something sets them up to-
35:00🔗AdamYou run in Microsoft and banging Heidi Klum, you don't go home and get as depressed as you normally would when you're just sitting around watching car commercials all day and drinking.
35:09🔗DrewThere's some issue that was sort of un-dealt with growing up that sort of gets re-triggered by all this trauma. It's, you know, there's no problems.
35:16🔗AdamBut also the guy is not doing anything now and it's time to start doing something.
35:23🔗DrewIt's hard though when he's dealing with all this and it's slowed down by the sand and the like.
35:25🔗AdamIt is, but, you know, look, you're supposed to be, I mean, I don't know if I'd want to hang out with a guy who was over killing an 11-year-old by that evening. By that evening.
35:34🔗DrewYeah. Or how about the guy that did not feel like Steve does?
35:38🔗AdamYeah, he was happy about it. Thought the kid had it coming. Yeah?
35:48🔗AdamOkay. Why don't we go on over there? All right. Steve, so, look, it's just time, it's therapy. Do what the doctors say and focus on trying to get your life going in the meantime. Start a relationship, start a career. These things all help in the depression department. And I haven't given the speech in a long time, Drew, but do some exercise, listen to some classical music, not ranchero.
36:11🔗Sean FarisYeah. Get out, you know, you got to get out. If you sit around and just think about it, it's just going to be on your mind all the time. You're never going to let go of it.
36:17🔗AdamYeah. It is, for those of us who've been depressed before, Drew, you've been depressed, yes. Did you have the feeling of having to sort of pry yourself out in, you know, it's like, here's what depression is. Depression is like having arthritis at age 23. That's what they call it. Your bones hurt, nothing works.
36:37🔗DrewYou ache, everything hurts all the time, you can't sleep.
36:40🔗DrewOr you sleep too much. Yeah, the whole pain, very often generalized pain that doesn't have a organic basis to it is depression, very often.
36:46🔗AdamAnd it's not so much even pain, it just feels like someone replaced your innards with sand. And when somebody says, hey, let's get up, let's go to the park, let's throw the ball around, it's like, you feel like an 85 year old.
36:58🔗DrewI had the other, imagine this, I had the other kind of depression, agitated depression, anxiety, anxiety.
37:15🔗AdamPainful, yeah. Removing skin. Difficult. Thank God he was a doctor. He could put that Bactin on her. The point is, eventually just started drinking it, you know, eliminating the middle step. Does that work? Okay, here's what I'm saying, Drew. A guy like Steve, he needs to move. He needs to get going. He needs to just pry himself out of them. He'll start looking for a job tomorrow. Jog. Put some headphones on and jog. Yeah?
37:41🔗Sean FarisWell, if he gets on with his life and starts moving around doing things, it'll kind of numb it.
37:48🔗DrewYou won't think about it so much. And you might want to talk to a doctor about a medication called Seroquel, which might be better for you than the Xanax.
38:23🔗DrewAren't you happy now you're learning all this? I've never seen you so into it. You're lit up about this.
38:28🔗Sean FarisWhat is it about putting people on pharmaceutical drugs though, and then putting them on other things to eliminate the side effects of it, and then putting them on more things to eliminate the side effects of those? I've never really understood that.
38:40🔗DrewI'm all for that. But yeah, when you're the man, your desire is to make people uncomfortable and hurt them.
38:44🔗AdamDrew's trying to make money because he's in the hip pocket of the drug companies, man. Shooting golf all day. So do you put 40 pounds on because you eat more, and you retain water, or what do you do?
39:02🔗AdamWow. But you're sleeping 14 hours a day. You just feed your ribs while you sleep?
39:07🔗DrewIt depends. You can take it just at night. You sleep only during the night. All right.
39:10🔗AdamAll right. Grant me some of that. And those macadamia nuts. Let's get started. Sean Faris is here tonight from Life Is We Know It, 8 o'clock ABC, Thursday nights. We'll take a quick break. Eva Longoria called about 20 minutes ago, but she was on hold for like 35 seconds. She got PO'd and hung up. I think Sean must have called her during the break or something. You guys make up?
39:38🔗AdamAll right. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Yeah, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Sean Faris is here tonight. Life Is We Know It. Name of his show on ABC. 8 o'clock Thursday nights. Speaking of shows.
40:05🔗AdamYeah. Now, here's the deal. We're doing a whole thing out here on K-Rock. And it's the krock.com, krock.com, kroq.com. You can reach it from anywhere in the country. And you can bid on many cool things.
40:19🔗DrewWell, let's set this up again. This is a tsunami relief fund, basically.
40:23🔗DrewAnd it's an auction to raise money for the tsunami survivors. And here are the stations from which we originate, krock.com, kroq.com, and you can sign on to the big-ass auction, is that what they call it?
40:34🔗AdamWell, you just go to kroq.com and I think you can find it from there.
40:38🔗DrewBut it says big-ass. It's not actually that obvious. It says big-ass auctions, one corner.
40:43🔗DrewAnd you sign on and then there's this list of things you can bid on, including getting Pennywise over to your house, or as you say, keeping them from your house.
40:50🔗AdamThe bid should be how to keep them away. If you bid enough, we can guarantee they will not come to your house.
40:55🔗DrewIt's like a Visa commercial. Some things are priceless. And or having Hoobastank at an event of your choice.
41:02🔗DrewGuitars and stuff. But one of them is to be a host, guest, slash guest, here on Loveline with Adam and I. And the current bidding for that is, Michelle?
41:16🔗Adam$11,000? That's, I mean, when I heard it was at like $3,400.
41:33🔗Sean FarisWhat are you going to do for them?
41:35🔗AdamWhen we get to $15,000, yes, we're definitely, it's out of me. But here's the thing, Drew, and I know this is going to be an unpopular stance.
41:43🔗AdamI think a lot of the reason that people are coming in here is because of my comedy. I think I feel like I've driven the price up. I think that-
42:01🔗AdamWell, I mean, here's the thing. Even the Red Cross has a price to operate. You give 10 grand to them, maybe 8,500 makes it over to the Philippines or where the hell this went on, Drew. But there's envelopes to buy, there's stationery, there's things like that. What do I got? I got gas. I'm coming in here.
42:20🔗DrewThink of your time. You're going to come in at least 8 minutes early that night.
42:23🔗AdamTalk to the person. No, but here's seriously what I'm saying. Here's what I'm saying. Look, you could have some other bozo in here. Let's face it, you could have Ricky Rackman in here. You guys be coming off about 2,200 bucks, maybe 2,500 bucks, or you could have the ace man in here, and I can guarantee you 15 grand. I'm going to need to see 5.
43:07🔗AdamI got to shake my ass and have cash fall out of the tree on me like you, kid. Quiet down. This is business now. I'm just saying ten grand toward the tsunami fund.
43:32🔗AdamThey're getting 10 more than they would have gotten. All right.
43:36🔗You know, if the person's smart, whoever wins, they'll request to come in on a night you're not in, like a striker. So they can get a word in edgewise.
43:44🔗AdamHow dare you? Who is that? The point is, is I've been looking for that voice and I can't find it. I checked the bathrooms. I went to Aero, kicked the door in, started screaming at the guy. Talk, Daniel. The point is, is we can get up to 15. That's my... The auction is over Friday night. We can get this thing up to 15. Like I said, what might be? I just want to tell you.
44:15🔗Sean FarisWhat happened to the Hollywood 10 percent? I mean, you're going 33 percent on that.
44:20🔗AdamWell, first off, I'm talent. That's more for agents. I'm actually driving the price up. And like I said, it takes guts to take a stand like this. You're not going to have other celebrities say that they actually want to be kissed in to the tsunami relief fund.
44:34🔗Sean FarisAs far as I'm concerned, I think there's other stations converting now over to the red chair music.
44:39🔗AdamThe red chair format. Drew, it's my right. If you just reach your wallet in front of me. Right.
44:45🔗DrewReach in front. I don't like either of those words going around you. Let's just take this quickly.
45:45🔗DrewAnd that could either be him. Some guys do sometimes have a little funk about the semen, particularly if it's been a while since they've cleared the pipes. To, she could have a mal-odor. And either case, it could be something called trichomonas, cause a bad smell. There's also a vaginitis that can cause a bad smell. And sometimes just the two of them together, people don't make a different kind of a smell. So it does, something needs to be checked out for years.
46:09🔗AdamOne closes one's eyes and the mind runs wild as to what finishing school she attended.
46:23🔗Sean FarisIs it possible that if one person smells and another person smells, because they both smell, they don't smell each other?
46:30🔗DrewWell, you cancel each other's stint out. Just the way you get used to your own gas or things like that, you'll get used to your partner's smells. They will start to be.
46:50🔗AdamAll right. Again, Sean Faris is here. Nightlife is, we know we're up to 11 grand. That's six for the Sumatras. Let's see if we can get that up to 15. We'll get it to 10. It's all going to be profit after this. All right? There you go. All right. After this. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Sean Faris is here tonight. Drew is on the Loveline website, or the K-Rock website, trying to figure out what the bid is for the Tsunami Fund.
47:34🔗Sean FarisHas it gotten up since we spoke about it last?
47:37🔗Sean FarisYeah, you want that 5% or that 5,000, huh?
47:40🔗AdamYeah, again, it wouldn't be right to take 10%. I'm looking more in the 40 to 50% range. Drew's mouth is hanging open, and Michelle looks like she bit into some bad boon tank. Look at that face. What is going on? What is it up to, Drew? What's happening?
48:10🔗AdamOkay. What's it down to now? Do I get my 5 grand or not?
48:15🔗Sean FarisThey're retracting their offer. They knew you're getting money.
48:17🔗AdamIt's going to be really horrible when it goes down to 4,800 bucks. And now I figure they owe me. I'm like, someone's got to fork over. I got to get 200 bucks from our Sumatran. That's it. All right. Drew, get back over here and do the show, would you?
48:34🔗AdamIt's 11. Good. That was a very fruitful 20 minutes you spent over there without a microphone. Eva Longoria is on the phone, by the way. She's called back in, of course, from the runaway hit, Desperate Housewives. Friend of Sean Faris. I don't know how they know each other, Drew, but we're going to find out. Eva?
50:36🔗Sean FarisI give all the credit to Eva myself.
50:38🔗AdamI do too. She's called in. But I mean, you couldn't have... I mean, I'm sure you figured you had a good cast and a good script and everything, but the kind of success that the show has had. I mean, I would think each year one show sort of, you have to say, this is the number one show of the year.
50:54🔗DrewI can't imagine you'd go into any show thinking, this is going to be the one.
50:59🔗You know, you hope for, as an actor, there's so many obstacles you have to overcome, like first getting a pilot and then the pilot getting picked up, and then the pilot hopefully finding an audience on the right night, on the right time, and there's so many factors that go into it. So, you just hope that you're going to have a job.
51:17🔗AdamYeah. The attrition rate is incredible. Like, your greatest fear, you want to get picked up for season two. Forget about number one. How about top 70?
51:31🔗Sean, we were premiering, Sean's like, dude, can you leave a little bit of budget for us with all the billboards and all the promotions that they did for it?
51:40🔗Sean FarisThey had promotions on the hangers that you get whenever you get your dry cleaning. I mean, for every 100 units of promotion the Desperate Housewives and Lost got, we got too.
51:51🔗AdamYeah. Well, I guess the Lost worked out OK, too. Yeah, that's really good.
51:56🔗I love Shawnee Show. Shawnee Show is a really good show.
51:58🔗AdamIt's a nice, it's a cute little show. It's, you know, it's no Lost, it's no Desperate Housewives, but it's a nice little.
52:04🔗Sean FarisGive some love. I'm sitting right across from you.
52:08🔗AdamIt's OK if you like, you know, this kind of show, but it's not, you know, it's not Desperate Housewives. I mean, you couldn't advertise it on a wire hanger or anything.
52:15🔗DrewOur radio affiliates are getting behind it, though.
52:18🔗AdamHey, hey, Eva, you should come do this show.
52:56🔗AdamAll right, Drew, give him the reach around. You're a doctor. It won't make you gay. If I do it, it's weird. Hey, hey, Eva. Yeah. Now, seriously, I'm not trying to do any tabloid journalism, but obviously, and I'm feeling the connection between you and Sean and me.
53:50🔗AdamBut Eva, let me seriously ask. Clearly, and look, I'm not trying to put anyone on the spot here, but maybe there is a connection to be made if there hasn't been already. Clearly, Sean is smitten with you. You have feelings for Sean. I don't know what your status is. I'm single or married or whatever. Sean seems to be free and clear.
54:12🔗AdamYeah. I'm married, but she's flexible. She's cool like that. She's cool. No, I'm just saying, are you single, Eva? Yes. Uh-huh. You are. Sean, what's up?
54:37🔗AdamYeah. But here's what I'm saying. You're both single. You're both part of the galaxy of ABC stars. You're both attractive. You're young. You're in your prime. Sean, Sean's testosterone losing from this man.
55:19🔗Sean FarisYou know, honestly, I don't think it would work because Eva and I, the type of people we are, we-neither one of- if we ever went that route, we'd never leave the house.
55:28🔗AdamYou're so passionate. You know, it's just-
55:30🔗Sean FarisIt would be too much. Nothing would ever, ever top it.
56:04🔗AdamSo listen, Eva, here's the towel boy. Here's the thing. I'm just standing there holding the towel. Mr. Faris will do a couple of black jobs. Mint. Hey, Eva, here's all I'm saying. I would love to be the guy that got you two together. Obviously, there's energy here. I'm not trying to pimp either one of you.
56:26🔗DrewHell, you're not. You're going nuts on that.
56:28🔗AdamThere's energy. There's energy between the two of them.
57:00🔗AdamSean's going to, Sean's going to, we're going to rev him up over here and then we'll send him by. He should get there about 12, 15, 12, 20, all right?
57:17🔗AdamThanks. All right. Eva Longoria, everyone, from Desperate Housewives. There's something there. There's some energy and I can't quite, you love Desperate Housewives? There's nothing to love.
57:37🔗AdamOh, yeah. Attractive woman. Yes. Yeah. You can't go wrong with that. Tight.
57:44🔗Sean FarisShe's a great person. She really is.
57:46🔗AdamWho cares? I don't care if she's a Hitler Jr. She's great looking. And you should be on that. And I think there's something going on. I do. I do. Whatever. OK. I'm just I'm wanting to facilitate.
57:58🔗DrewI know you are, but you made that point 18 times in a row. And you can take care of themselves.
58:03🔗AdamWomen women feel sometimes like they give in to our relationship.
59:05🔗AdamOkay, well too late. I would say, and it keeps shifting, and Drew, you're a little older than I am, so moves up for you. 32. 32, everything still works, super horny, and the body, nothing's falling.
1:00:38🔗DrewI know it's not what you want, but on some levels, you're attracted to that.
1:00:42🔗AdamWhat you want, what you seek are two very different things.
1:00:45🔗DrewThe thing is, the things that are traumatizing in childhood, for reasons that are... Why God wired us this way is just a complete mystery, but we are wired in such a way that when we have a traumatic experience in childhood, that becomes a source of attraction later in adulthood. And so, the kind of thing, the kind of person that dad was, and all his traumatizing, what you hated for him for doing, is stuff that you find arousing and alluring now, and you can't not go after those guys. And boy, you gotta get some treatment so you don't go after those guys.
1:01:13🔗Well, is there any way at all to break that cycle?
1:01:18🔗I thought I was when I got with him because he was nothing like that when I met him.
1:01:22🔗DrewHere's what you can pretty much depend on. If you are super attracted to a guy, that's the kind of guy he's gonna be. Even if he seems, even if he's a kindergarten teacher, whatever, it seems like the nice guy in the world, you picked him, you're super attracted to him, that's who he's gonna be.
1:02:17🔗AdamIt's really like having a high-definition plasma screen in my set.
1:02:22🔗Sean FarisWell, you may be afraid that he may find out by naming what he does.
1:02:26🔗AdamWell, that's a good point. Thanks for trapping on me. There you go.
1:02:31🔗Sean FarisI'm a listener. I'm an observer.
1:02:33🔗AdamNo, I appreciate it. You're right. You got us back on track, Sarah. But it takes a big, big man to admit what someone else is right, Drew. Big man.
1:02:51🔗AdamNo, I know, because that's what a track. Hold on a second. Let's talk about attraction for just one second, because that's the heroin part of the relationship. The reason, you know, somebody could be going, like a guy could kill himself over a chick. And you look at her and like, yeah, it's not doing anything. I mean, what is attraction? You know, you hear these women all the time, especially for women. It's like, well, he's short. He's kind of balding. And there ain't much to look at. He's got a hairy back. But it's like, I can't, I got to breathe his breath. I can't. I want to drink his urine. I got to be near this guy. What is that? Well, the guy's a schlub. Why do you got to be near him? Well, that's what attraction is. And it's more powerful than the sort of rational mind.
1:03:33🔗DrewCrazy intense like that, particularly for people that don't make sense to everybody else. It's because you were traumatized. And this is a reenactment of all that traumatic material. And what's interesting, even again interesting, is when the current boyfriend starts actually escalating and traumatizing you again, one of the concept is that it increases your attachment needs. Where do people go when they're in traumatic situations but run to their loved ones? So now this is the guy you're even more attached to now when he becomes the traumatizer. Because that's the only place you can go when you're being traumatized.
1:04:04🔗AdamIs it safe to say that the more effed up you are, the stronger and more specific the attraction is, and the greater the grip it has on you?
1:04:16🔗DrewThe less flexibility you have with moving in and out of relationships.
1:04:19🔗AdamYeah, like super people that haven't had any history of trauma can objectively take a look at a situation or this person hit me, I'm leaving the relationship.
1:04:28🔗DrewThat's one of the things that happens from trauma is you lose flexibility and the ability to move in and out of bad and good feelings, bad and good relationships.
1:04:36🔗AdamRight. And women probably use more of their brain in terms of attraction than guys do. I mean, guys use their eyes.
1:04:44🔗DrewYes. Guys have, guys, their eyes activate their visual courtesies and then they're driven right into the drive centers, right into the desire center.
1:04:53🔗DrewThe women don't have that desire activation.
1:04:55🔗AdamLike the desire flies right to the basket.
1:04:56🔗DrewThey have arousal without desire. And so they have attraction, all that is what moves them along. It's not that hunger desire stuff that men get.
1:05:04🔗Sean FarisIs that why they're always able to say no? Stop.
1:05:14🔗DrewNo, even that. A lot of women, that part of the brain doesn't... Some do. Some women are sort of masculinized and have a lot of testosterone and whatnot circulating. But most of them... I'm going out for Discovery Health Channel. We're going to go to a functional MRI scan in Atlanta. And we're going to do a bunch of functional MRIs on people looking at the rousing material.
1:05:32🔗DrewFunctional MRI, meaning it shows the metabolic function of regions of the brain, not just the anatomic structure. So you actually look at what the brain is doing in response to stimuli.
1:05:42🔗Sean FarisPretend like I understand what you're talking about.
1:05:44🔗AdamYour Drew's going in. Sean, a man of passion, by the way.
1:06:17🔗AdamEva Longoria's underpants. The point is, is I can see, I see the passion in Drew. Hell, you can smell it if the air conditioning ducts blowing hard enough. Sean is passionate man, as I've seen in here in a long time, and I've seen passion. I know passion.
1:06:35🔗Sean FarisIt's just ripped on my face. I actually got a tattoo on my forearm.
1:07:20🔗AdamGet some tips from the reigning King of Passion, under thinned out, under 30, Division Drew. It's not going to make a run at your crown.
1:07:28🔗I'm going to leave it on my own. All right.
1:07:30🔗AdamHold on, Monique. Sean Faris is here tonight from Life as We Know at 8 o'clock, Thursdays, ABC. We'll take a quick break. Be right back after this. Hey, everybody, it's the Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew. Phone number 1-800-LE-V-E-191. Sean Faris is here tonight from Life As We Know It. Will Sasso is coming in here tomorrow night from Less Than Perfect, and you've probably known him for all those years on MADtv, plenty of them.
1:08:02🔗Sean FarisGot a lot of ABC love going on here, huh?
1:08:04🔗AdamWe certainly do, yeah. Yeah, usually we go deep cable, but for the next few nights, usually it's the guy with the question marks on his suit that comes on at 5 o the morning, screams at you about getting 80 grand, open a coffee shop. Drew, have you still not seen this guy?
1:08:21🔗DrewI've seen him. No, no, I've seen that guy.
1:08:23🔗AdamHe's awesome. He tells you how to rape your government.
1:08:30🔗AdamYou need bills? I'll get $7,000 for your phone bill. It's like you run up a bill for 7 grand on your telephone and we're supposed to pay for it, and there's a part where he goes, it doesn't matter, rich, poor, it doesn't matter. Like you're a rich guy. You're a rich guy and you're like, yeah, I need $125 grand to write a novel from the government and he'll get it for you.
1:08:51🔗Sean FarisIs this the guy with the neon question marks all over his red hair?
1:08:55🔗AdamThat's right, Lascaux. Speaking of money, are we at $11 grand?
1:09:03🔗Sean FarisYou started going for the money, Adam, and you just killed it.
1:09:06🔗Adam$11,000 for the tsunami relief. That means $6 grand. Count them six. Heading over to that region of the world. Five for the ace man. And it's not like I might not make a donation out of that five. You know what I mean?
1:09:25🔗AdamNo, but 70... Yeah, 70, 80 bucks, you know, toward the thing. So, you know, out of that five. Again, I've driven the price up, Drew. I need the beak to be wet.
1:10:46🔗CallerAll right. Sean, like, were you your character when you were his age?
1:10:53🔗Sean FarisI could say that I had many of the characteristics of Dino whenever I was in high school, but not quite the way I don't even know if I can say the word. He was kind of an ass.
1:11:43🔗Sean FarisOh, sure. The important question is, do you have a Nielsen box?
1:11:47🔗AdamYou have a Nielsen box? Yeah. In our Arbitron book. Yeah. Hey, Monique? I'll tell you what. Tomorrow night's episode, Sean is going to do something that only you're going to know. He's going to tip it off. He knows you're watching. Sean, tomorrow night, let's figure out something for you to do so that when Monique is sitting at home at 8.15 or 8.45, you make a move that's just for Monique, whether it's scratching your head or a certain way you flip your hair or you put your hands in your pocket at a certain time. Can you give her something?
1:12:24🔗Sean FarisWell, I would absolutely love to do that, but it's not a live show.
1:12:27🔗AdamNo, you could do it. Come on. What do you got for her?
1:12:34🔗AdamWhich episode? I want you to dedicate something to Monique so that when she's home, she's going to see that and know you're thinking of her.
1:12:43🔗Sean FarisI don't even know what's going on.
1:12:43🔗DrewYou comb your hair, you put a hand in your pocket.
1:12:46🔗Sean FarisThere's a moment of realization.
1:12:59🔗Sean FarisDon't put me in the hot seat. I'm under pressure here.
1:13:01🔗AdamJust make one of those moves. You do one of those Keith Partridge moves where he puts his hands in his pocket and flips his hair back. For me, it would just be about to scratch my ass.
1:13:39🔗AdamAll right, baby doll. When you see you have a fan for life, she's going to see that brow raise, she's going to start screaming, he did it for her, and then her brother is going to like clue her in. It's going to get weird.
1:14:19🔗CallerI just came home from college and figured out I got mono over brick and they told me that absolute no drinking because it affects your spleen, I guess, or liver. Why is that?
1:16:28🔗AdamOn my scrotum, I just rest my scrotum on there. All of a sudden, numbers and signs and letters come up. Upper case, lower case. It's a mess. Spell check. Smoke starts coming out of the thing. All right. What are we doing here, Drew?
1:16:55🔗DrewNo, but Matt, you're an alcoholic addict in progress here. You're going to have to deal with this, buddy. I'm just saying you're on your way, Matt. You're on your way. I know it seems like nothing happened.
1:17:14🔗AdamHe already has the, I'm talking as the same time the authority figure is talking. That's one of the key alcoholic components. Let's talk to Christy who's 16. Christy.
1:17:43🔗Sean FarisI've tried to do the left and I just can't seem to get it.
1:17:46🔗AdamYeah, let's see. Drew does the left. Yeah. But now you can do the middle. Can you do the middle? You're going down. Can you go up? Yeah, but that's both. Can you lean them up? No. All right. And you do the right. Now why not? Now, Sean, you're right-handed? Yes. Drew, you're right-handed. And I'm left-handed, but I can only do my right. So you see nothing.
1:18:08🔗AdamReally, we got nothing. All right, Christy, go ahead.
1:18:11🔗CallerOh, for someone to tell you, Dr. Drew, I love your book Cracked. I got it for like 10 people for Christmas. I absolutely love it.
1:18:18🔗DrewThat's so kind of you, Christy. Thanks.
1:18:19🔗CallerYeah. Anyway, my question is, can you get an STD from swallowing semen?
1:18:26🔗DrewYeah, you can get an STD just from giving an a blowjob without swallowing semen. But the more dangerous ones are from the semen itself, the viral transmitted like HIV, hepatitis. That can get into the esophagus and be absorbed there.
1:19:01🔗AdamThat's like liver. Things like that. As you're getting a BJ and your dog just jumps in and starts devouring your penis, knocks your girlfriend out of the way and the dog runs away with your penis. You have to put a strainer on the toilet and put them over the toilet to get a penis back.
1:19:17🔗DrewI try to get where there's a pan-seared sea bass. I really like that.
1:19:23🔗AdamYeah, we got new poached potatoes. We got a seared aji-ahi and choice-of-sides. And you're like, could I get the seas... No substitutions. I like to know. I like when they won't substitute. All right. All right. So, Christy. Yeah.
1:20:10🔗DrewWho would it be? She lives in Palm Desert. That must be a weird place to be, a 16-year-old. Yeah. There with octogenarians and it's too hot in the summer to go outside.
1:20:18🔗AdamWell, you go down to Hadley's and get a date shake. I don't know. Isn't that where Palm Desert is?
1:20:34🔗AdamNo, on the way to Palm Springs. Yeah. Look it up.
1:20:38🔗DrewGive me a date shake. You know where they go is the outlet stores.
1:20:41🔗AdamOh, yeah. That's where they hang out. You can go to Sonny Bono's Restaurant. I mean, it's huge. Try to do a little driving. Yeah, I don't know. And it's like 100. The idea of the people that live in the place is to get over 117 in the summer is just unfathomable to me. Like Jimmy lived in like Tucson, Phoenix, Las Vegas, and Palm Springs.
1:21:07🔗Sean FarisHe's just attracted to the heat.
1:21:27🔗AdamEveryone's whole thing is like, yeah, you're just going to take a, you're going to pit steam. What did you think he was going to come out of?
1:21:35🔗DrewHe's going to come out of the ice. He's going to be a monkey or something. What?
1:21:38🔗AdamWell, I, I, I, I, part, some of it had to do with radio, but not really, not the Vegas and the Tucson part or the Phoenix part, but. I, I mean, we took a, a bus, we chartered a bus to go to Vegas in the, like, for, like, Cousin Sal's bachelor party in, like, August or something, stopped at a Wendy's, you know, outside a baker or something, got out of the bus, and I started running around like an aunt that had a magnifying glass over it. I was like, ah, what's going on? What's going on? I started hiding behind, I, I, I started seeking shelter because I started, there must be some source of this heat. I'm standing by a huge exhaust duct or something. I felt like I was staying, maybe it's coming out of the bus. No, that's it. That's what you got.
1:22:24🔗Sean FarisI drove out to Palm Springs in my jeep once with the top off, and it was like, it was like driving in a, in a sauna.
1:22:29🔗Sean FarisAnd I was just, you know, as I get a blow dryer on you the whole way there.
1:22:32🔗AdamI, you know, I don't understand the folks that, you know, live in the places where there's, you know, 40 inches of rain every year either, but I understand that more than the people, you know, and they was, it's always the same thing. It's like, you get, you get used to it.
1:22:46🔗Sean FarisNo, no, they commit suicide. They get hooked on heroin.
1:22:52🔗AdamYeah, yeah. And they're always like, yeah, you know, you get used to it. It's like, look, I, you could take, you could take both legs off at the knee. I would eventually get used to it. But why? Why do it? Yeah. All right. Wait till you step on a landmine. Don't do it, don't do it willfully. Yes.
1:23:11🔗DrewBut you and I, you and I both have this thing about the heat.
1:23:13🔗AdamYeah, we don't like heat. All right. Let's, let's take a break. Wait, where, where's Palm, where, where's Palm Desert on the way to Palm Springs?
1:23:46🔗AdamNo, it's a little thin out in the sun, but nice. Not as nice as that evil Longoria, though, by the way. That's hot. All right. Let's take a little break here. Sean Faris from Life As We Know It, 8 o'clock on ABC, and we'll be right back after this. Yeah, it's Loveline, Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Will Sasso is coming in here tomorrow night from Less Than Perfect. And you remember him from TV all those years. Funny guy, haven't seen him in a while. Sean Faris here tonight from Life Is We Know It, Thursday nights, 8 o'clock on ABC. All right, you ready to keep going?
1:25:03🔗AdamYou're cute and orgasm. Yeah, just for you. Yeah, what's up?
1:25:08🔗Um, I was listening to a girl that you talked to a couple of girls ago about childhood trauma and that's what you're attracted to in a man as you get older. And I was just wondering, is it trauma-specific? Because, um...
1:25:24🔗DrewWell, no, it's not because all women between about 18 and 22 have a phase where they go for guys that are sort of a-holes.
1:25:33🔗DrewYeah, it could be a little stronger, longer, stretched out for some women. And it could start later for some women. But most women do go through a phase where they have to get sort of a fill of a-holes.
1:25:42🔗AdamBut there's a-holes sort of, you know, cool guys who have a BS-ramp.
1:25:47🔗Sean FarisYeah, there's the whole bad guy routine.
1:25:49🔗AdamWe can see right through. And then there's the guys who have beaten the crap out of you. That's a different guy. You know, but there's not a woman alive that doesn't like a guy who's a little bit dangerous, a little bit aloof, a little bit mysterious.
1:26:03🔗Right. And I've been just trying to figure out because I was with someone for a good amount of years and it turned out that he was just had issues, just had problems. Like what?
1:26:17🔗Well, I didn't know it, but I guess for a while he was doing drugs behind my back and feeding on me.
1:26:25🔗DrewYou know what? That doesn't make him an a-hole. That makes him an addict.
1:26:28🔗Well, no. Wait. And then it just partly do the drugs. Although when he claimed to be sober as well, he was abusive once, but twice, I think, out of the whole amount of years.
1:26:42🔗Right. And I don't know. You know, I still...
1:26:47🔗DrewWell, Melissa, this is not a pattern of you being attracted to assholes. This is you getting attached to an alcoholic and hanging in with it.
1:26:55🔗That part I understood because my father is a recovering alcoholic.
1:26:59🔗DrewHe's many years sober in AA. There you go. All that stuff.
1:27:02🔗So I understood that, but I never grew up seeing any kind of abuse.
1:27:10🔗DrewNo, Melissa, you're making my point for me. This is not... You are not someone who's attracted to abusive a-holes. You are someone who's attracted to alcoholic addicts. And because you're co-dependent, you get in, you become sort of dismiss the behavior as you enable it in some way, and alcoholism addiction will progress, and they often become violent and nutty, and that's part of the addiction part. That's not you being attracted to the a-hole.
1:27:34🔗AdamShe's not making your point in her mind because what she's saying is, is she never saw her dad in that state.
1:27:42🔗But I never... He was not abusive to my mom or me.
1:27:45🔗DrewBut Melissa, you're not hearing me. You're not hearing me. Part of the evolution of addiction is...
1:27:50🔗AdamYou're so lucky, by the way. I've got to sit here and hear him all the time...
1:27:53🔗Drew.is chaos and violence. It's not that you're attracted to that. You're attracted to the addiction, and if you hang with an addict long enough, if they progress far enough, they will get this way.
1:28:02🔗AdamAll right. So the point is, is that you did break up with him?
1:28:06🔗Yeah, but the main reason I'm calling is because there's still that urge in me even after the months have been. It's like I dismissed the bad stuff for some reason.
1:28:16🔗DrewAl-Anon, Melissa, Al-Anon. You've got to go to Al-Anon. You've got to go to Sponsor, you've got to work with the Steps. You must change internally, or you're going to keep, just like the person is attracted to the abusive guys, you're going to continue to be attracted to the alcoholic addicts.
1:28:27🔗AdamEvery guy that never got fixed becomes a Moby Dick to women. I can underline the dick part, but you know what I'm saying? Guys don't have that, guys don't have the, I must fix her, I must change her. And for a woman, I think it almost feels like a failure sometimes. Like you got this project and you failed. And then it is like, it's the one that got away, it's the game they lost, and like the high school quarterback who loses the championship game, they just think about it for the rest of their career.
1:29:04🔗DrewIt's making dad right once and for all. It's the love and attachment they feel for dad, that's who they love, that's the kind of person they love. The addiction and stuff only intensifies the need for attachment. They don't know how to get out of it.
1:29:18🔗AdamYou know, I feel, I feel, I do think the good people of Washington DC are going to get more out of the accordion than this kind of general discourse we have. Do you know what I'm saying?
1:29:29🔗DrewI'm listening, I'm thinking, I'm trying to decide, I'm weighing it out. Yeah, it's a hard call.
1:29:40🔗Sean FarisI'm actually really curious about, I've noticed that generally guys, whenever they find a girl that they like, they want her to stay exactly the way she is.
1:29:50🔗Sean FarisGirls find a guy that they like, and then they want to change certain things about them to just make them a perfect guy. Yeah. And it's, I've seen it over and over again.
1:30:00🔗DrewNo, here's what it is. They want, they want Tom Cruise and Cameron Crowe in the same guy. I mean, I mean Tom Hanks and Cameron Crowe in the same guy. And those are mutually exclusive human beings. They do not exist in the same male. Hold on a second.
1:30:12🔗AdamWait a minute. You got your Cameron Crowe and your who?
1:30:32🔗DrewYes, and those are very closely related languages.
1:30:34🔗AdamYeah, because unfortunately, Cameron Crowe and Tom Hanks are about the same guy. Yeah, Russell Crowe, you want Russell Crowe, you want the swashbuckling, a drunken, brawling, punch out the paparazzi.
1:30:48🔗DrewAnd Tom Hanks, and the same guy. Yes, you want to take the Russell Crowe and convert him into a Tom Hanks.
1:30:56🔗Sean FarisIs it something to do with that, or is it?
1:30:59🔗DrewThey're attracted to this sort of alpha male qualities, but they can't live with it. So they got to get it, and they got to hold on to it, and then convert it into something that's livable.
1:31:06🔗AdamReally, for guys, if it was a car sort of thing, it's like they want a Ferrari that is essentially a Camry.
1:31:14🔗AdamThey want the excitement, they want the high revving, they want the performance, they want to turn heads and everything. But they don't want to deal with the breaking down, they don't want to deal with the cost of maintenance, they don't want to deal with all this stuff. So once they do get the Ferrari finally landed, well, the Ferrari is going to cheat on you with your friend, the Ferrari is going to come home drunk, the Ferrari is going to make these announcements, look, you don't like it, get out. That kind of stuff. So if we can slowly turn that guy into a Camry, then we got the Ferrari with the Camry reliability.
1:31:45🔗AdamThe only way that works is if the Ferrari gets fat and starts losing hair, and eventually gets fat and he starts on his hair and he's like screw it, he starts getting high levels of circulating estrogen and stuff like that and he starts behaving like a Camry. But then he starts looking like a Camry too, is that the Ferrari?
1:32:26🔗AdamWe'll be right back after this. Come here, buddy. Well, that's the show. Life As We Know It, 8 o'clock on Thursday Nights, ABC. Sean, God love you, God bless you.
1:32:47🔗Sean FarisHey, thank you guys for having me on the show. It was a pleasure.
1:32:49🔗AdamExpect big things out of this kid, Drew.
1:32:56🔗AdamContinued big things. No, but I'm talking about like Tom Cruise type of success.
1:32:59🔗DrewHuge things, all right, huge things, all right.
1:33:00🔗AdamOr she would say Cameron Diaz type of success. Or whoever, whoever, whoever, whoever, whoever the hell you are. Jim Crow type of success. Here's the point, don't cop an attitude with us, you know, when you're, you know, Mr. Box Office and all that crap. You come back, you remember where you started.
1:33:15🔗Sean FarisHey, I'd be more than happy to come back on.
1:33:16🔗AdamGet even on Gory. I'll come in with you next time too.
1:33:20🔗AdamNo, no, but it's gonna help, it's gonna help. We'll take a little 22 hour break and until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahala.
1:33:29🔗Sean FarisI'm doing the eyebrow for you, honey.
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