1:05🔗VoiceoverThat's Dr. Drew. 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. Here we go. Trying to talk his way out of all his pathology. Jenny McCarthy is in the studio tonight. Belly Lapse is the name of her book. Drew's already, I had a horrible day. I'm in a horrible mood. Drew's in a bad mood because of Jenny's book.
1:32🔗DrewOh, that's right, because he's doing so well.
1:34🔗AdamJenny, Drew is, Drew is very, there's two things that Drew loves. He loves books and he loves colleges.
1:41🔗AdamYeah, yeah, and he loves, he loves it when his book does well and other people's books do horribly. Is that true? Yeah, and that's not what's happening in the case of Dr. Drew's book, which I can't even remember the name of it, Calling All Nerds and Belly Laps. And he is, he's livin.
2:01🔗DrewBelly Laps is a, like Belly Laps is doing so well. New York Times bestseller.
2:06🔗AdamIt is high as number four on the New York.
2:11🔗Jenny McCarthyIt's wonderful. It pretty much shocked me the most out of anything I've done so far. I never, considering I hardly read any books in my entire life.
2:19🔗AdamY'all, now, now, now he's gonna kill himself.
2:22🔗DrewLook out. She's able to discuss things like the Blue Twinkies. You'll notice this chapter here.
2:26🔗AdamMmm, oh, Blue Twinkies. That's a swollen vagina?
2:33🔗Jenny McCarthyI forgot we could actually say those types of things, can't we?
2:36🔗AdamWe're a little something called Safe Harbor, sweetie. So we can do whatever we want. Ah, that's great.
2:40🔗Jenny McCarthyBecause I've been scorned by many producers across the country this tour.
3:03🔗AdamIt's crazy, it's like we're adults. It's wacky. And it's great too, because you go on The View, you got a bunch of fat pent-up yentas who are talking to another group of 50-something-year-old fat pent-up yentas, and you can't say vagina. But you come on this show and you got a bunch of 14-year-olds listening to the show. Vagina, vagina, vagina, vagina.
3:25🔗AdamBlue vagina. Blue vagina. That one Elvis's greatest movie, by the way. Yeah, it doesn't make sense, and people say to me all the time, how come the guys doing the morning show can't say anything when all the kids are at school? But you can come on in the Safe Harbor at 10 o'clock at night and say whatever, and all you got is a bunch of 15-year-olds listening to the show.
3:48🔗DrewThis is the Safe Harbor. Also, the idea here is that we have a reason to talk. Just the way in your book you talk about these things for a reason.
4:25🔗DrewSome powerful stuff. Progesterone, it's progesterone creates. The placenta produces all this progesterone that produces a lot of it.
4:32🔗Jenny McCarthyIs that why your nose also becomes very kind of stuffy and mucousy?
4:37🔗DrewNo, that's probably more just your total body volume, your fluid volume, your body goes way up, like three times normal. And so you're literally, you've got fluid everywhere. And so you lie down, it's like it goes up to your head.
4:47🔗Jenny McCarthyYou can tell this book is not clinical by any means. It's more like, oh my God, it's blue. And looks like two Twinkies under really bad carpeting. At least it makes people aware to ask questions.
5:19🔗DrewThey're walking because of the pressure and the thing and the progesterone. And it's, they walk around feeling like men do, from age of 12 to.
5:26🔗Jenny McCarthyIt was the horniest time of my life. Except I refuse to have sex.
6:11🔗AdamDo they really tell you doggy or do they, by the way-
6:14🔗Jenny McCarthyThey say on your hands and knees.
6:16🔗AdamYeah, see, we need a clinical name for doggy. And on hands and knees is a little lumpy. I mean, that's a sentence. You know what I mean? Doggy's a word. We need something. You know, we need- Wheelbarrow?
6:29🔗AdamWheelbarrow, so different position. Pig in a pasture is what my name is. And as a woman, especially as one is used to being hot. See, that's your problem. You're used to being hot. Whereas a lot of women are not used to being hot. They get a big set of boobs out of it.
6:50🔗Jenny McCarthyI really thought my husband was gonna get stuck in my butt cheeks because I was big.
6:57🔗AdamWorking the doggy. Did you give him some oral sex just to take the edge off?
7:01🔗Jenny McCarthyYeah, I gave him a few here and there out of, obviously, you know, sympathy. Sympathy.
7:07🔗DrewSure. Sure. But it's hard to get that because they're so mad at you for converting them into this.
7:12🔗AdamUh-huh. You made them into the beast. Right.
7:15🔗Jenny McCarthyI could just tell that my husband's fantasies were everywhere but here. He was looking off in the distance. I don't blame him. I just couldn't. But you know what? You are extremely horny during this time. So I just found taking care of my own self.
7:35🔗DrewDo you get a high blood pressure and some kind of seizures? It could be dangerous. All the fluid, which I imagine a lot of that 200 pounds was fluid though.
8:29🔗AdamIt's nothing worse than this celebrity with the pretentious kid name. It's to me, there's a 70% chance the kid's gonna be a junkie already. You just, it's now 95.
8:42🔗AdamNow Satchel is gonna be slamming heroin by then. He's laughing, believe me.
8:46🔗Jenny McCarthyBut this poor kid on the playground, you already heard the person say, some guy go, hey, Apple, check out my banana.
8:52🔗AdamOh, yeah. Apple are endless for poor Gwinnett's child. It just keeps going. I mean, you start gettin into Bruce Willis and Demi Moore. You just start looking. I would love a list of Hollywood couples who've crapped out a kid in the last five years and the names, they're ridiculous.
9:10🔗DrewBut I think the greatest threat to the child's well-being is what it speaks about, the pathology of how the parent sees the child. That we're gonna give them, this is my creation, and we're gonna give this creative name. As opposed to, hey, human beings gotta get through a productive life. Let's go here.
9:34🔗AdamYeah, here's the thing too. Chicks with a dude name, always hot, or it's a disaster, but usually hot. Sometimes a train wreck, but mostly hot.
9:43🔗Jenny McCarthyThere's a lot of hot bodies out there.
9:47🔗AdamSam's a good one. Sam's a hot chick name. Jenny, Jenny, not that hot a chick name. You may be the hottest Jenny.
9:55🔗Jenny McCarthyI graduated with 200 Jennifers.
9:58🔗DrewThat's the point of just so common and probability says it could be some.
10:01🔗AdamWell, that's the whole thing about though, Jenny is a Jennifer hotter name than Jenny. You're the hottest. I mean, you probably would be the hottest Jennifer too. I'm kissing a little ass. Little.
10:55🔗Jenny McCarthyEver, ever, never, ever after blowing out my body the way I did. And the exhaustion of having a baby.
11:01🔗DrewThere's something about 12 months, we looked at it, we had triplets, we looked at each other at the end of that 12 month and went, we should do it again. It's like, we talked for like an hour about it, then we went, what is the matter with us?
11:13🔗Jenny McCarthyI do, I'm talking about that in the next book. The Pregnancy Amnesia, if we did not have it, we would never have another child.
11:19🔗AdamThen, but next book's gonna be a workout book, right? No, but you gotta write a book about how you lost the 40 pounds.
11:27🔗Jenny McCarthyThat will be the third book. Really? The next one is the first year, cause there's so much, so many things about breastfeeding and hoping.
11:37🔗DrewYes, honest things about those that are not the same.
11:39🔗Jenny McCarthyCause my sitcoms don't seem to be working.
11:42🔗AdamIt's gonna be great, cause they're like, see the calendar pages blowing away and it's like, fast forward to 2017 and Jenny McCarthy sitting here and there's a decrepit Adam and Dr. Drew. She's like, 19 can be a very awkward year for a boy. 19 and a half.
12:04🔗Jenny McCarthyI said, my next one's menopause after that.
12:23🔗DrewPapyrus, I keep telling you it's papyrus. They'll be written in hieroglyph.
12:27🔗AdamThey're gonna come out in paperback, but that seemed too good for it. So they're just actually mashing wood pulp together and putting some words on it. And it'll be served in a bucket. Reach in and grab a handful of book.
12:55🔗AdamLet's go now. Let's break it down. All right, all right. Let's go. Let's get a hand in. Yeah, no, no, it's all right. Here we go now. All right. Sarah? You're 27?
13:08🔗I'm honored to be your first call of the night. I just want to say that I'm glad Dr. Drew is standing up for people like Books in School, because there are some of us out there. And I really enjoyed Drew's book, and I thought that it was really brave that he went out and sort of let everybody see his reactions to his patients, because it's not something that a lot of people in the field like to talk about.
13:31🔗That's great. So anyhow, on to my question. I have a really significant weight problem, and I'm not motivated to do anything about it. And what I was wondering is, would going to overeaters anonymous help me find motivation?
13:45🔗DrewYou're fast. That is an interesting way to pose that question. I don't think you've ever had to pose in that way. What do you think, Jenny?
13:52🔗Jenny McCarthyI was really unmotivated after my pregnancy. I had to lose 40, and it wouldn't come off.
13:58🔗Jenny McCarthyWell, the motivation was just wanting to be with my baby and not really caring about myself at all. I kind of gave all of my needs to my baby.
14:05🔗DrewAnd so at what point did you start to get motivated?
14:08🔗Jenny McCarthyWhen I finally really looked at myself in the mirror and couldn't.
14:12🔗DrewAnd what did you feel about it? Did we have this discussion? No, I didn't. And did you have a reaction to how you felt about yourself when you looked in the mirror and you went, oh, my God?
14:20🔗DrewDisgusted. Disgust is the number one motivator of change I have found. And what's interesting, Sarah, is if you discuss, people, once they feel disgusted in themselves, whether they're drug addicts or people need to lose weight, then have no trouble motivating. And all of a sudden, it's like, oh, we got to do something here. The problem is, and this is what I don't know the answer to, how do you get people to look at themselves honestly where they let that in? Because it really is a moment where it happens. Everyone can tell you what room you were in, where it happened, the moment, and that was it. Boom, you turned it all around.
14:50🔗Jenny McCarthyI passed the mirror and stopped and looked back.
14:52🔗DrewBut you passed it 100 times before. Right. And why is that time did it get in? And that's really the question. And in my, I'm really looking to, this is my next book, by the way. And I've been looking at this rather carefully. Relax, relax, it won't be any belly laughs. Come on now.
15:06🔗AdamAnd listen, in order to save time printing them next time, why don't you just have your printer pop out like five, six copies and that'll do it. Yeah, that should cover it. They get one for you, give one to Anne, and then you'll sell.
15:21🔗AdamSell three, yeah, just hit five when you're printing.
15:23🔗DrewAll right, but so far all I'm finding is that people seem to need to have a unique relation, a new, experience themself in a new way with a new kind of relationship. Maybe it was a relationship with your child that did, or maybe you changed the relationship with your husband or a new friend or something, but go out and find somebody, the kind of person you don't normally relate to or have in your life, but somebody you admire, somebody you appreciate, and get that relationship built. Spend a little time with that and see if that doesn't move you out of yourself.
16:02🔗AdamIt's an interesting, no, guys don't do that. That's a chick thing. Yeah. The interesting part is, is you're saying, well, you're unmotivated to lose weight. So if you go to an overeaters anonymous meeting, maybe that'll motivate you. And then I could argue, well, if you're going to the meeting, that's motivation. It's a chicken or egg kind of thing.
16:23🔗DrewRight. There's the people that study these things talk about contemplative and pre-contemplative changes that lead to change. And the reality is once you get there, maybe there you'll find that kind of relationship or be able to relate people in a new way that will give you the distance or the opportunity to see yourself in a way that creates more motivation.
16:38🔗Jenny McCarthyCan I tell you what really helped me? I needed something with structure and believe it or not, and they're not paying me to say this. No, Weight Watchers.
16:49🔗DrewYeah, they're excellent. Once you decide to do it, you have to have something that helps you do it.
16:53🔗Jenny McCarthyBecause it wasn't just me going to the gym on my own. It wasn't me buying a diet book. I needed some type of structure.
17:02🔗DrewBut again, with that structure, relationships came with it, right? It's the intersubjective, interpersonal experience.
17:09🔗Jenny McCarthyI became a relationship with the woman that weighed me in every week that said, right on, three more pounds.
17:13🔗DrewThat's where you really, you can't do it by yourself. You can't make major change by yourself.
17:26🔗AdamOh, people can do that on their own. But here's the other thing, Drew. You could break it down and find somebody. The husky chick at the scale who give Jenny the high five once a week is not a significant relationship. I mean, if you're gonna argue that, then everything is. Well, she didn't have to climb that high mountain.
17:47🔗Jenny McCarthyI did join it with my sister. That was a help.
18:01🔗Jenny McCarthyHer name is Jojo. She's a hot little redhead.
18:04🔗AdamWe were talking about the dude name thing just moments ago. And that's Jojo's clothes.
18:11🔗DrewWell, it's a variation on that theme, isn't it? Where it's repeated.
18:16🔗AdamYeah. Oh no. Jojo sounds like a hot name. Yeah, that's a good name. And obviously good stock, but your parents are good looking, right? Yeah. And you're not quirky good looking, you're just good looking. So when you get the quirky good looks, it could mean, you know, bad stock, but some kind of weird little magic in the stew.
18:35🔗AdamThen you see the sister and you realize, okay, this is where, this is how it should have been. You are funny. You see what I'm saying? You don't have that. Yeah. Let's see. I don't know, but what about this? Is your, and don't tell me about how great looking your parents are. Are they, are they good looking though?
19:00🔗AdamNot great looking. Yeah, I'm doing as good as I could. Like if you, you look at me, you don't think, hot. If you saw my parents, you're gonna get a trophy. Oh my God, but this man is overcome. Amazing. Angela. You're 23? What's up? What's up?
19:20🔗CallerWell, I kind of have a problem. I, it started a while ago. I've been married for three years and around the time of our first year anniversary, my husband and I decided that we would go our separate ways just because he's a pretty mean guy.
19:37🔗DrewWhich anniversary? Your first anniversary?
19:39🔗CallerOur first anniversary. And I moved out of the house and I was seeing this other guy who I worked with, who I work with again now. And we had sex one time and I ended up pregnant.
19:55🔗DrewThat's always a remark when you hear that, right?
19:57🔗AdamYeah, but that's just albino white trash. That's how that works. Yeah, if you had a few years of college under your belt, you wouldn't have no pregnancy.
20:31🔗AdamBoilermaker. I think that school is named after a drink. Yeah, I'm pretty sure the drink was around first. I'd like to go to like Tom Collins University, like Bloody Mary University. All right, anyway, go ahead.
20:46🔗CallerAnyway, I found out I was pregnant. I went home and my husband and I tried to work things out. He's a great father, all of that. But I still wonder, you know, if this other guy could be her dad and.
21:01🔗DrewOh, I see. So I get it. You made it, you led us to believe the other guy is the dad. So you think it might be the dad. I would say the odds are it's not the dad.
21:09🔗AdamNo, it's not. Well, the junior college thing settles it for me.
21:20🔗DrewBut here's the deal, Angela, you are looking for trouble. You need the, here's why you can't live with your husband currently is he's gone from being the abusive, unavailable guy to the nesting, caretaking guy who's actually, sounds like he wants to settle down and be a human.
21:53🔗DrewHow about a little couple's therapy on behalf of the child? All right, let's work on that. Sounds like he, listen, one of the big hurdles is getting somebody to commit themselves. And it sounds like he's ready to do that.
22:20🔗CallerPhysically and mentally, as far as the mean comments.
22:28🔗AdamOkay, well, he needs to get some help for this.
22:30🔗DrewAnd let's start with the together. So, let's see, it's because we're hearing her side of the story, who knows how they fit together in some way. And so, let's get on with it.
22:37🔗AdamAll right, and stop doing this retarded dance with the guy. You got a kid now, okay?
22:41🔗DrewCommit yourself, yeah. Yeah, just commit yourself to it. Sounds like he's in, you get in. Forget about this other guy, just forget it. You've got your mom now.
22:48🔗AdamThe cops, did the cops ever come out to the house?
22:51🔗CallerWell, we did go to the hospital and they came up there.
22:54🔗AdamThe cops did? You mean after he socked you or something?
23:08🔗AdamYeah, it's sort of like the word cold cock. It really doesn't involve frozen penis. It's actually about getting hit. There's many things with hit. Belted, it all involves the fist. No belt, no cocked. No sock. It's interesting. Even punch. One could, you know, it's no fruity liquid. Yeah, interesting, Drew. We should break that. Drew, there's your next book. The Origin of People Getting Smashed in the Face and Why They Call It Anything But What It Is. Jenny McCarthy is in studio tonight. Belly Laps, name of her book. She sold enough copies, but she could always sell a few more. Just twist a knife with that, Dr. Drew.
23:52🔗Jenny McCarthyI got private school to pay for.
23:54🔗AdamThat's right, that's right. We'll take a little break and we'll be right back after this.
24:21🔗AdamHey everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. True. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Jenny McCarthy is in studio tonight. Alanis Morissette is in tomorrow night. Belly Laughs, name of the new book. It's been out for a couple of months. At least I've seen Jenny making the rounds. And Jenny surprised by how many copies are books old. I think Drew feels the same in a negative way about his book. Surprised though, fair, fair to say.
25:13🔗AdamCause you know my thing, if it hasn't been out five, all the great, all the great work, Drew, hundreds of years old, you see what I'm saying? This is a move, those books by-
25:25🔗DrewThat's why you started with the Bible, let's say.
25:27🔗AdamSocrates and those guys, all dead. Then you got your Shakespeare's. Maybe alive, maybe dead. He's certainly old if he's still alive. The point is, is all the great work, at least they're a couple of hundred years old. So I'm going to have to just wait 175 years.
25:42🔗DrewLet your children read my book, I guess.
25:44🔗AdamThat's right, their children. What were we talking about? Yeah, the book. Oh, so now who's buying this book? Is it pregnant? I mean, here's what I'm saying. Okay, here's what I'm saying. There's a sort of myth where, well, you just go out, you go on the Jimmy Kimmel show, you come on Loveline, you do the press junket, and you sell product.
26:08🔗AdamIt never works. If your movie sucks and no one wants to see it, then it sucks and no one wants to see it. And you see these poor actors and actresses everywhere and nobody sees their movie. And if people decide they want to see the movie, they go out and see it, whether you see the person plugging in on the view or not. So people have decided they want to read this book, obviously, because it's doing so well, and you've been out pushing it. But if they didn't want to read it, they wouldn't care if you were writing it, especially you, because it's like, oh, that's that chick from the thing, what she know about. So who's buying it? Or do you know? Is it pregnant women?
26:47🔗Jenny McCarthyIt's also people, young people thinking about having kids. Also, husbands are getting it. Also, women that want to buy a good shower gift.
26:58🔗AdamYou think people are getting it for people?
27:01🔗Jenny McCarthyGifts, huge amounts of gifts. You know, I kind of, when it first came out, I went on Amazon to see, someone said, there's reviews. I thought, oh my God, usually I'm reading horrid things. So I was really praying not to read any. And I was reading them and I was so relieved because there were women that have had three babies and were looking for something new. And there were so many like that, that I felt like, oh, so it's not only like women that just want to educate themselves, but something, looking for something different.
27:32🔗DrewYour writing style is very, very pleasant. The compelling is not the right word. It's welcoming, you know what I mean?
27:38🔗Jenny McCarthyI've always been pretty much approachable.
28:00🔗DrewI sat waiting, I couldn't stop thinking, is he gonna look up my butt? The assistant walked out, shouting, Jenny McCarthy, you're next. Of course, everyone in the waiting room looked up in surprise and knew that they were thinking, you knew they were thinking, Jenny did. Wow, Jenny McCarthy has butthole problems too.
28:32🔗AdamShe didn't finish it, she started it. She had a longer bowel movement and she would have gotten further along. What about the hemorrhoids? I hear about that.
28:46🔗DrewDid you have to get them banned or anything?
28:48🔗Jenny McCarthyNo, they were obviously worse after delivery, but that's, of course, not talked about yet. I never had them before in my life and I can't even believe that they exist. They're like balloon knots in a way, but just more swollen.
29:09🔗AdamHow do you get them to? I've never had one myself. I had something I thought was it the ones I was convinced to put preparation on it for a week.
29:16🔗Jenny McCarthyOnce you get them, then you continuously get them.
29:45🔗AdamIt shrinks it? Oh, because it doesn't have a supply? Right.
29:48🔗Jenny McCarthyBut what about going through another pregnancy? Would they come out again?
29:51🔗DrewOh, yeah. But let me tell you something. I don't want to scare you. But I've noticed my patients go for various procedures. The one that seems to trouble them the most is the hemorrhoid procedure. I mean, it is apparently terribly uncomfortable. You realize every time you blink, you move your butt.
30:07🔗Jenny McCarthyOh, God, you're right. Because I'm moving my butt right now as I'm blinking. Yeah, I did that too.
30:11🔗AdamIt's actually every time I move my butt, I blink. I got hooked up the other direction. It's crazy. There it goes. You guys go that direction because I go, I start and move up. Interesting. Garrett?
30:47🔗CallerWhat my question was, I was just kind of wondering, I don't know if you've ever thought about it. I would assume that at some point throughout your career, you would have. Have you ever thought and has it ever grossed you out that guys maybe look at your Playboys, at Playboys and think of it intimately and everything?
31:14🔗Jenny McCarthyPeople have actually asked me this question before and I kind of block it out, so to speak. I think if that's all I thought about, I don't think I would do bikini shots.
31:28🔗DrewYou must process in some other way because we block that out about men normally.
31:34🔗AdamWomen don't. When they get grossed out, when they think about guys at work.
31:37🔗Jenny McCarthyDo you know what honestly girls think about? Oh, I hope I look skinny. Not, oh, I hope this guy is getting aroused. It's like, God, I hope you can see my rib cage.
31:47🔗DrewBut that I look skinny is for other girls.
31:49🔗Jenny McCarthyRight. But that's your biggest concern when you're kind of showing it off.
32:02🔗Jenny McCarthyI mean, that's really what I was thinking about.
32:04🔗AdamWell, I think women realize that women are the competition. And this is this is who they have to compete with.
32:12🔗DrewBut the product is not being produced for that effect.
32:16🔗AdamI know. I know. Very. I know. And this is why. And I finally stopped complaining. I mean, you know, guys, we as guys say to women all the time, look, we don't need the huge humongous boobs.
32:48🔗AdamThat's right. The point is, is there's a whole bunch of stuff that women that the guys don't want that women are trying to do. And if such such as be extremely skinny. Most guys I know do not want an extremely skinny girl. They're not doing it for the guys. They're doing it for the girls. And it's a little and we that doesn't compute with us at all. There's nothing we do that's for the guys. We do it for the girls.
33:20🔗Jenny McCarthyIf I was a guy, I'd probably want a girl with some meat on her bones.
33:24🔗DrewMost you want you want. Listen, what really we're attracted to as males is things that sort of are associated with fertility. And that's, you know, that's a little bit of size.
33:35🔗AdamYeah. The you know, the thing like most most guys, I'll tell you like one thing. Here's one thing women never talk about that guys don't really like. Guys don't like a flat ass.
33:46🔗AdamGuys would rather have a sort of bulbous ass than a flat ass. Women are constantly trying to shrink their ass. Rightfully so in many cases. But guys not so concerned with the flat ass or the no ass, guys like a little little meat on the ass and not as obsessed with the big boobs as they think as women think women. Women actually could take the boob in the ass and sort of flip it over like I do with my blinking. You know, my rectum controls my eyelids. Yeah. It's like I've heard you speak. We don't need the guys don't need the D cup. They need the BC.
34:24🔗AdamYeah, guys don't need the bony flat ass. They need it. Just flip it over. Whatever your perception of ass to boob ratio is for most for most women, get the chick to walk on her hands. That's the reality of what that ratio is. And yes, this is yes, the flat ass, the bony, it's skinny. It looks better.
34:44🔗DrewWhere this really goes bad with young people now is that they, you know, in our age, we were indoctrinated with the idea of men and women same, exactly the same, how they experience themselves in relationships, how they experience sexually, same. And now we've got this whole hookup thing going on where guys are interested in hook up because that's all they want to do. It's all they're interested in. And women sort of trying to keep up with that, trying to understand that. When I go to colleges and I asked women what alternative sort of social structure would work for them, they always say the same thing, which is why I just wish somebody would just sit down and talk to me, which guys cannot, I mean, like, what the hell are you talking about? What do you mean? And they've shown now in functional MRI scans of men and women that men's brain light up in a certain pattern when they're looking at pornography. The women's brain lights up in a similar pattern during emotionally significant conversation.
35:32🔗Jenny McCarthyGod, why does that have to be that way?
35:35🔗DrewIt is, but why does it have to be that we can't discuss it realistically? Why do you have to say, well, society has done this? No, we're wired now. It's how we're wired. It's fine to be, to express your sexuality, but to deny how it really sort of works is to create unhappiness.
35:50🔗Jenny McCarthyCan I ask a question, maybe a little different than what we're talking about, but what age are kids now having sex at?
36:01🔗DrewYeah. That's right. We're basically doing worse than any other industrialized country. At-risk kids, 14, or blow jobs before, oral sex. It depends on the population you're looking at.
36:14🔗AdamYour kid, your kid, shaved five years off of Drew's 16 estimate. Because he's got good-looking parents, he's...
36:22🔗Jenny McCarthyBecause I was a little more risque at a younger age. I was a little bit more risque.
36:27🔗AdamWell here's the thing. 16 is probably... Well, technically losing your virginity may be around 16. But we're talking to people that think a BJ at 13 is perfectly fine. A lot of that. All night, every night.
36:51🔗AdamHere's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna build a time machine, I'm gonna go back in the future to 14, then I'm gonna move it ahead 10 years from where we are now.
37:08🔗AdamI'll probably get hit with like, uh-oh, he's got new aides. What? There'll be some new weirdo wacky diseases.
37:14🔗DrewMaybe that'll have this huge conservative trend back towards, uh... Yeah.
37:17🔗AdamThey're gonna be wearing scarlet letters with a big B. It'll be like druids. I'll be wearing a chain and I'll have that bad bang haircut with the greasy bangs. Like, I'll be wearing my sketchier shoes. Hey, ladies! And everyone will be dressed like druids. Oh, and I'll get poked like right in the middle of like some sacrificial altar thing. What? Mr. Wizard! No! Yeah, you're right. That could happen. So, I'm going to come back.
37:45🔗DrewThat virtually guarantees it. If you actually pull this off.
37:47🔗AdamI'll come back at 14 to now and get myself the hummers I never got. You know what I mean?
37:53🔗Jenny McCarthy13, I guess. You can come back at 13.
37:55🔗AdamI was thinking about that, but that was a bad year for me, my 14 smoother.
38:02🔗Jenny McCarthyI think girls are more risque at a younger age than 16 even.
39:20🔗AdamLet's take a break. Let's all kill ourselves during the break. And then I'll go. You guys kill yourselves. I'll go to the time machine. Chris, you're going to have to do the show.
39:31🔗AdamWell, Jenny McCarthy here tonight. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back. Hey everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-1-9-1. Alanis Morissette coming in tomorrow night. Jenny McCarthy in studio tonight.
40:21🔗AdamYeah, belly laughs, everybody. Number 12 on the New York Times Best Celebrity List. That's where it is now. That's where it is now. But it has been as high as number four.
41:34🔗Jenny McCarthyNot really. I joke about getting money, but it's really out of.
41:38🔗DrewHere's a New York Times bestseller telling you that. You don't make money writing books. Now, she goes back now and says, I'm a bestseller. I want to write another book. She might get a reasonable amount of money, but not huge. No. Not huge. Not a crawl of money by any stretch.
42:15🔗Jenny McCarthyWhat I got for this book maybe would cover an hour of your time.
42:19🔗AdamReally? Really? So sad. See, and that's why I don't read, because I figure if they pay these people, why should a literal millionaire have to read what folks are getting, what, $12, $13 an hour?
42:34🔗AdamYeah, I mean, Drew, seriously, you want to do something sad? How many hours do you think you worked on your book? Yeah, under minimum wage. Under minimum wage.
42:49🔗AdamChris the engineer laughed at what you got paid. He gets $10 an hour. By the way, $10 an hour for sitting on a stool like a retard all night and not laughing at my jokes, by the way. When you look at $10 an hour for that, it's not bad.
43:25🔗AdamA year and a half. Thousands of man hours. If you build, like lawyers build, where they're like, well, I was out on the golf course and I was thinking about a couple of cases and one of them is yours. So Jackoff's got to charge you for that. If you're going to build like this, we're driving your car, thinking about your book, jogging, thinking about your book, what do you think you made? And then what you've been compensated for now, it's cents.
44:18🔗CallerOkay, I'm just wondering how often it's normal for girls to pleasure themselves.
44:26🔗AdamWell, I think it varies quite a bit with women because it goes from none. And that's normal for them to quite a bit. Which can be normal for them.
44:37🔗Jenny McCarthyI can't wait to see you guys answer this question.
44:40🔗DrewWell, it's all over the place. And this one is a great mystery for men is that every woman is different this way and we can't quite understand that. There are, I would dare say, not a majority, but a large percentage of women who never masturbate or have difficulty achieving orgasm and masturbation. And there are those that don't find masturbation pleasurable but are still able to have multiple orgasms. So there's sort of a full gamut here. The thing I think you need to look at is whether or not it's becoming preoccupying, whether it's compulsive, whether you have a trauma history and you're using masturbation.
45:11🔗CallerWell, that's the reason I'm asking, is because I've been doing it for as long as I can remember, ever since I was really little. And I've always done it when I've sort of been stressed out. And I have a little cousin and she's five years old. And I've noticed her kind of doing the same thing when she's stressed out, when she's in a bad situation.
45:28🔗AdamDo all kids diddle when they get freaked out?
45:31🔗DrewThey do, but they really start self stimulating when there's chaos in the home. So a bad family situation. We'll start that over.
45:37🔗CallerIt's not a bad family situation. She has a wonderful family situation.
45:44🔗DrewYeah, I know you love your family, but there must've been a lot of anxiety, a lot of chaos in the family.
45:48🔗CallerMaybe, but I don't think it necessarily stemmed from my family. I've just always been sort of a stressed out person, I think. And I was just wondering if this is a-
45:56🔗DrewWait, five year olds are not stressed out if their family is a safe place for them.
46:01🔗CallerWe'll see, she does have a brother with a disability.
46:30🔗DrewAnd maybe deficiency is what we call affect regulation. She may have deficiencies of the ability to regulate her feeling states, the intensity and the duration of feelings, maybe often. That's something that she may need therapy for someday.
46:40🔗AdamAll right, okay, good times. Jenny, ironically, so we can have our young teenage listeners masturbate, do your masturbation. What are you good for?
47:15🔗AdamEvery day, there you go. All right, guys, you can masturbate during the break. I like the idea is that guys masturbate, two women masturbating. That's why they wanna know, you masturbate, come on. All right, we gotta take ourselves a little break. Jenny McCarthy here tonight.
47:56🔗CallerThis hour brought to you in part by Axe. Experience the Axe Effect.
48:19🔗AdamRight there, buddy. It's Loveline, madam. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Jenny McCarthy in studio tonight. Belly laughs, name of her new book, fairly new, and Alanis Morissette in studio tomorrow night. Now we're talking about masturbation, although I squeezed one off during the breaks.
48:45🔗DrewWell, that's what we close with, that irony about how, when girls think that somehow guys actually want to know whether they masturbate or not, or they just want to hear them say it.
48:53🔗AdamThey want to masturbate to them masturbating, and that's why the guy's going to come on, you know you do, you know you do it, you know. Because they're just going to go home and just picture going, well, one time when I was at camp, yeah, oh yeah.
49:10🔗Jenny McCarthyAnd yet for a girl to hear a guy masturbating, it's like, hmm.
49:13🔗DrewOh, and I. Oh no, come on, it horrifies you to a soul.
49:22🔗AdamYou did it to them. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, they're unwilling partners. It's bizarre. Sexual fantasies. Yeah, yeah. And it's too late by the time to tell you. Completely. They're done. Yeah, God knows where they finished, too. You know, it's a disaster. It can get ugly.
49:40🔗DrewI saw Chris run into the bathroom across the hall here. He dove in there.
49:49🔗DrewHe's very talented, though. He can do both.
49:50🔗AdamYeah, you can't talk about hemorrhoids in front of this kid without him masturbating. He's weird that way. All right, where were we? Masturbation. Okay, so when all is right in the world once a day.
50:03🔗DrewHow about Jenny McCarthy? Third trimester pregnancy.
50:06🔗Jenny McCarthyThird trimester pregnancy, maybe two to three times a day.
50:15🔗Jenny McCarthyIf I could just sit on a motorcycle for the last trimester. But at 200 pounds, that ain't pretty, a pregnant lady on a motorcycle. Having orgasms.
50:29🔗AdamYeah, and in two, okay, so two to three times a day. And then, okay, now let's figure out the Jenny McCarthy masturbation. But when I'm stressed, nothing.
50:39🔗Jenny McCarthyI can go a month without anything when I'm stressed out.
50:42🔗DrewOkay, so this is the opposite of what our caller was saying, was that she used masturbation to regulate her feelings, so like a drug. And actually, what you're describing is normal when people feel anxious, their sexuality goes down. Their responsiveness goes down.
51:39🔗AdamYeah, I could masturbate to that. I masturbate to your husband watching you. I'm just watching him. How do you know when he's all good? Well, I know what he's thinking. Drew, could you masturbate to me watching Jenny's husband watching her masturbate?
52:17🔗AdamLet me ask this. I don't know if this question has ever been posed. I'm gonna write the number down. Okay, all right, because guys are animals. We've talked about this many, many times. And for some reason, when you were talking about being depressed and whatever and it not making sense, guys will push right through that kind of stuff, whatever it is. What percentage of guys who historically throughout history who are on death row, who are going to the chair the following day or to the gallows, squeeze one off.
53:03🔗AdamI want you quiet down. I'm gonna write my number down. Jenny's got her number, she's got to write down too. But let me just tell you, let me fill in some of the things here. Now, one argument is, is-
53:13🔗AdamWhat a way you'd be in. Okay, that's one argument. The other is you ain't gonna never get a chance to get into your junk again. And number two, or number three argument, what about the last meal? I mean, you certainly could make the last meal argument that look, you should be vomiting.
53:26🔗DrewThat's just a metaphor. It's a metaphor for Zach's last meal.
53:31🔗AdamThis is the Holland days on the, okay. Is this a percentage?
53:46🔗AdamYou wore nicer shoes than when it beat off. But hold on a second. You also gotta think of the mentality. You know, these are young guys.
53:56🔗DrewYeah, I'm thinking, I'm actually underdone a little bit.
53:58🔗AdamNot much, not much education. Excess of testosterone. But the excess testosterone. You know, average guy, he's 29. He's got a lot of testosterone. That's why he killed the hooker in the first place.
55:08🔗AdamOh yeah, if you can get ahold of some porn. Yeah, if you got the internet, forget about it. By the way, three quarters of my don't kill me argument would be the at Don part. And just be like, holy Christ, I got one goddamn day. You tell me I got to get up at five a.m. to get shot. Come on, fellas, let's do it at noon. Please, I can't sleep in this one day. I'm going to be up. I'm going to be tossing and turning. I always get a bad night's sleep. Before I travel and before I get shot are always my two worst nights. And we got to do this at Don. I'm going to be out of it. I'm going to look horrible. I have like a half a boner. Three quarters of my argument would be trying to push the thing back to noon or two in the afternoon like a normal time. Let me get a cup of coffee. Read the paper. You know, get myself. I like to take a shower, like to put myself together. If they're going to be people, they're going to be witnesses. I don't want to be a mess.
56:04🔗Jenny McCarthyI have reoccurring dreams that I'm on death row.
56:08🔗Jenny McCarthyI've had when I'm really stressed out.
56:10🔗AdamI could masturbate to that. I could masturbate to that.
56:14🔗Jenny McCarthyYou can watch my husband masturbate to that.
56:16🔗AdamYeah, I can watch your husband. I can see you on death row with that bad warden and the bad guard. You know the guard, the one that's bad? He doesn't button his shirt all the way up. His button's down a few times walking in. How are you doing? You know how the game is played. That's the other one, too. The guy explains how he knows. I like that too. I always explain to people who just got there, you know how it works in here. So now I just got off the bus, you never really hear that. You play nice. He drags a stick, drags a night stick along the cheek.
56:49🔗Jenny McCarthyI like that you're doing it to him right now.
57:00🔗DrewOh, well, yeah. When he blinks, his ass blinks.
57:03🔗AdamIt'd be a shame if anything happened to that pretty face. You know, that's the other one, too. It talks about what could be bad and threatening.
57:10🔗AdamYeah. Listen, you're talking to the guy who watched Caged Heat and Concrete Jungle, all these good movies where there are lots of chicks behind bars. So, yeah, I could masturbate to your husband masturbating to that. All right. Drew, this is the greatest. I know we're done and we're moving on, but percentage of men who beat off the night before the chair.
57:34🔗DrewWhatever the number is, does it not speak volumes about the male?
57:37🔗Jenny McCarthyNo, now I kind of almost get it.
57:41🔗DrewBecause it's a drive. And the other thing we don't get is males, why women would go through the whole pregnancy thing. Think of the drive you have to have a child. If a male went through a pregnancy, there would be no more children.
58:24🔗AdamAnd he's letting you know that if you play along, things will be a lot easier for you in the joint. Brian, and by the way, you know what the rules are.
58:39🔗CallerWell, see, I have my girlfriend, she lives a little bit north of me in a kind of a rough neighborhood and just recently she got molested by what she claims to call four drunk Hispanic individuals.
59:39🔗AdamKids math checks out. Jenny's going to kill herself because she already done a Playboy spread by 86. Wrote a book about being a Playboy. Brian?
1:01:31🔗CallerMy parents split up when I was about three years old. My dad moved down here and my mom stayed in Chicago.
1:01:38🔗AdamLet me tell you what Florida is like. Florida is like a bug-zapper for people. It just sucks in. They see the light, all the horrible insects, the moths. They flock to it. The mosquitoes, they all see that. They're drawn into it. It's inexplicable. They can't help it. What is that? What goes on over there?
1:02:03🔗DrewI don't know, but it certainly happens.
1:02:47🔗AdamAnd literally a millionaire. Literally. And you understand I use my genius to become a millionaire. And I can help you as well. All right? Sure. Here's what I need you to do. First off.
1:03:14🔗AdamYou're supposed to make bad decisions at 18. So all you got to do, you don't have to be smart enough to have your own good ideas. You only have to be smart enough to listen to my genius ideas. Do you understand? Then you'll be genius by proxy. Here's the thing. Get the job at the bike store. Do not piss off the manager. Fight to keep this job. Work as many hours as you can. Save as much money as you can. This girl? Trouble. I'm sorry for what's happened here in the past.
1:03:42🔗DrewIt's not going to be good for her to look to you to solve her problem.
1:03:45🔗AdamA team of guys with tweed jackets and suede elbow patches could not fix this girl for ten years. Ten years. Yes, about ten years worth of work. Brian, you are going to knock her up. You guys are going to give birth to someone who will come out smoking a corn cob pipe. That white trash. The kid will actually have a corn cob pipe in its mouth when it comes out of you.
1:04:10🔗DrewLet's talk about Florida for a second. Think about this in Florida. I was just occurring to me.
1:04:16🔗AdamSo hold on. Let her go to Michigan. This thing is over. Pulling out is not contraception. You must use birth control. Work as much as you can at the bike store. Learn as much as you can at the bike store. Thank you, Drew.
1:04:32🔗DrewGo ahead. But think about Florida. It's the only part of the contiguous United States, the only part you can get in your car and drive to that is basically like the tropics. It's the only sort of, right?
1:04:43🔗AdamYeah, it's like going to a Banana Republic. It's like you're actually getting an Oldsmobile and driving to Cuba or Haiti.
1:04:53🔗DrewIn fact, that's the environment you're going to.
1:04:55🔗Jenny McCarthyBut why are the old people flocking there?
1:04:57🔗DrewJust because they're tired of the winters. They just got to get out of the cold. But it's the 38-year-old father of two who's fleeing, getting in his car and fleeing. They want to go somewhere hot and tropical and power go down there. And the history of Florida is really violent. I mean, back to the real serious, the Indian Wars, the early Indian Wars and the Spanish Wars where it's all in Florida. Serious problems.
1:05:19🔗AdamThat's all you need to know. Every snake is poisonous.
1:05:22🔗DrewIn Florida. And every insect down there, too.
1:05:37🔗AdamYeah, everything's huge. Everything's just brimming with venom. Everything's mean. There's gators everywhere. They love waffles. What else do you need to know? You gotta get out. Unless, and this is the other part of the Florida experience, you're like J.Lo or Stallone where you got some sort of mansion you take a boat to.
1:06:00🔗DrewRight. You know what I mean? Yeah, the boat thing, too, is there. Boat. Boat's a little bit sort of white trash rich thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And think about Southern California. That's a desert. People come here, they come to the desert. And they just sit and they slow down. They bake. They don't get stirred up.
1:07:01🔗Adam3.15. 3.15. Did you leave last night at 11.20 because you're going to have bags in your eyes?
1:07:09🔗Jenny McCarthyHey, you know what? If you think I'm really helping, I'll stay.
1:07:13🔗AdamYou got to stay one more break because, Drew.
1:07:15🔗DrewYour poor Wrangler is going to be responsible for being horrible.
1:07:19🔗AdamProducer Anne, for that matter, you got to tell me when the guest is going to leave at the end of the thing. No one told me. Right? Not that you couldn't, but. Unacceptable. I can ask. Unacceptable. Thank you. You stay one more break. Of course. Belly laughs, by the way. Name of the book.
1:07:36🔗AdamNumber 12. New York Times bestseller list. Drew, come on. Let's go. Let's get it down. Let's go now. Let's break it down. Let's get a hand in. Let's rally. Let's get this show going. Gentlemen. I use that term loosely. All right, ladies.
1:08:16🔗CallerWell, yeah. I know they're all bad. But see, I heard that and I'm just kind of curious.
1:08:21🔗DrewThat circulates around. I don't know that's been shown.
1:08:23🔗AdamAnd by the way, instead of, you know, the smoking thing is always like, well, second hand smoke, first rate killer. Hey, look, you smoke one cigarette a day or a carton of cigarettes a day. It's just as bad. It's always bad. Light cigarettes, regular cigarettes. It doesn't matter. Just don't smoke. But here's the thing. Could somebody start doing some tests? I know they've done some unlike light cigarettes and things like that. Instead of just taking all the money and giving it to Rob Reiner to create propaganda saying that the 60,000 people die of second hand smoke. Could they actually do some stuff like, look, here's a cigarette that's lower and whatever or menthol cigarettes are worse or as it turns out, smoking five cigarettes a day is actually worse than smoking a pack because that's all I'm saying.
1:09:05🔗DrewYeah, that's actually worked out that people find with the lower tar, lower nicotine, all that stuff, people smoke more vigorously. They smoke more of those cigarettes. They literally, your brain adjusts to a certain dose of nicotine and you're going to get more of those cigarettes.
1:09:17🔗AdamBut again, but the problem, I think, is when people say, how about smoking a light cigarette? That doesn't matter because you're going to smoke more, but you're going to smoke more is not the answer.
1:09:31🔗DrewAnd then the other thing is that the big threshold is 30 pack years. A pack a day for 30 years, you're going to get cancer, you're going to have heart disease and a story.
1:09:41🔗DrewYeah. That's the one where you're in trouble. Yeah.
1:09:43🔗AdamAnd they measure, so you're doing two packs a day for 15 years, you do the math.
1:09:49🔗DrewYou're in trouble. Now, it doesn't mean you couldn't get something earlier. You sure could.
1:09:52🔗Jenny McCarthyWhat about a pack a day for 15 years, like I did?
1:09:55🔗DrewYou're, you know, you ought to be, you're a female and you're young. And so it's sort of a little different. You will talk about there. It's debatable.
1:10:02🔗AdamTrue. I'll check you. And I'll master it.
1:10:04🔗DrewIt makes your ears, it makes your ears sort of ring more when you're.
1:10:09🔗DrewI was just complaining about something for the show.
1:10:11🔗AdamInside. Jenny McCarthy here. One more break with the Jenster and we'll be back after this. Drew, how much money do guys spend trying to get chicks? Condoms, hair plugs. All they need is a max deodorant body spray and a billion dollars. Hey everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1-- Jenny McCarthy in here tonight. Lannis Morissette in here tomorrow night. This is Jenny's last break with us, but she's been a trooper.
1:11:06🔗Jenny McCarthyI wanna come back if you'll help me. But I won't have anything to plug, because I just have to sit here and talk.
1:11:11🔗AdamWell, you could do that. We kind of appreciate that, actually. Yeah?
1:11:17🔗Jenny McCarthyJust come here and sit and shoot the crack?
1:11:20🔗AdamYeah, it's like if a hooker didn't charge you. It'd be like, wow, she must have feelings for me. You know what I mean?
1:11:26🔗Jenny McCarthyI do, I had fun. It's kind of nice.
1:11:30🔗Jenny McCarthyAnd I could look like this and you guys don't care.
1:11:32🔗AdamOh, you look great. What are you talking about? You don't need anything. My bags. You're perfect. Yeah, yeah, we're not like these other crappy radio shows. We're a good time. Yeah.
1:11:43🔗Jenny McCarthyIt's not the morning wacky zoo that I've been doing every morning.
1:11:47🔗DrewWe basically hate what would be conventional radio.
1:11:51🔗AdamYeah, or good. Some people call it good radio. Yeah, but either way, we're opposed to it. Yeah, let me say this. While I was taking a leak, I had a couple of thoughts. One is they're running a PSA for dogs, clean up your dog's poo. To me, you've just run out of PSA. It's like, now we're done. You've covered laptop computer theft at the airport.
1:12:18🔗DrewHealth risks of bat guano or something.
1:12:20🔗AdamYeah, begging you to clean up your dog ass. But here's the thing, and I was thinking about this while I was taking the leak. People, especially guys, were the guys I hang out with, 30-something-year-old smart asses. They don't like cats. There's no cat guys. No one's gonna hold. And they wouldn't admit it if they were. But no, guys don't go, oh, I love a kitty cat. Let me tell you something about cats. They bury their ass. They should get way more credit for that than they do. You know what I mean? Like, here's the thing.
1:12:50🔗AdamThey hide their crap, and they take it outside, they dig a hole, they take a dump, and then they put dirt over it.
1:12:58🔗DrewDogs make like they're doing that, and just spray them with the grass behind them.
1:13:03🔗AdamDogs leave, first off, the dog, the Duke dog size ratio is way off, because a big dog is 85 pounds, I'm 200 pounds, same Duke. So that's an F-U right there. That's a slap in the face. I mean, don't tell me that's not intentional. That's an attack.
1:13:26🔗AdamThat's an attack. I can pre-perceive there's no other way that a full frontal attack. So first off, the Duke is one third the size of the dog. I mean, I swear to God, there's like 18 pound dogs that drop six pound logs. You know what I mean?
1:13:44🔗DrewWe've got medium sized dogs. I'm out there with a shovel.
1:13:52🔗AdamNot nearly that size. And Drew's done, he's weighed them. He's done the water displacement tests. Absolutely. He's done all the math, all the math on it. Okay, so huge Dukes and they leave it right in the middle of the patio or the carpet or the kitchen floor, right?
1:14:07🔗AdamAnd kick grass off. Or scrape some carpet fibers or something. What's a cat do? Cat, with dignity, quiet dignity, lets himself out of the home, goes out in the yard, somewhere, by the way, not right in the patio, not right in the grass, he's taking it out.
1:14:24🔗Jenny McCarthyCats, I thought they just go in the litter box.
1:14:26🔗DrewSometimes they do that too. Wherever it is, the litter box gotta be covered, gotta be private.
1:14:29🔗AdamYeah, here's the thing. An outside cat will do it outside. And if the cat does it in the litter box, usually because that's the alternative to going outside. But dig a hole, take a duke and bury it. Shouldn't they get some credit for that? Like if I was an advocate for cats, like a publicist for cats, that's all I'd be screaming about.
1:14:52🔗DrewYou know where it goes south? It goes south, if you live with a cat, you never live with a cat, I can tell.
1:15:03🔗AdamYeah, well, they start- Well, look, but they're bad seeds in all pet worlds. Well, they seem to have what? They're bad rabbits, they're bad ducks. They're bad Ronald. There's bad everything. You can't just go bad seed. My cat Norman jumped out, would go out the house, dig a hole, take a crap, come back in the house like nothing happened. And I'm just saying, what other pet does that? There are no other pet is bearing their due. And I'm just saying, give the cat their props.
1:15:37🔗AdamIf you had a dog that let itself out, dug a hole, took a dump and buried it, you'd be breeding that thing and it'd be a million bucks a load.
1:15:49🔗AdamYou'd be going insane. This is dogs, a baggie, that dog's sperm would be worth millions of dollars, right? And people would be holding the dog up like, huh, like the Lion King. They'd be like, huh. They'd be going crazy, right?
1:16:05🔗AdamLet's just say, give the cat the props for burying the Duke, that's all. Thinking about it, they get nothing. No one brings it in. No one weaves it into the conversation. I don't like cats, don't care for them. We're such horrible, humans are so horrible and we're so insecure that if the pet doesn't run home and act glad to see us, even if it just wants to get food off us, like a dog, if they just, you know, if it does what it's really thinking, like, yeah, all right, you're home. What do you want to do, throw a parade? You'll be home this time tomorrow and the next day, too. What do you want? I'm taking a nap here. We can't handle it. It's like, I don't like him. He doesn't like me enough. He buries the Duke! Give him the props!
1:17:04🔗CallerHi. I read on your book. Hi, Drew. I'm having problems with my ex-girlfriend. We got back together. I don't know if you'll remember my call from like a year ago.
1:17:15🔗DrewOf course, of course. Daniel, it's Daniel, Adam.
1:17:23🔗CallerOkay, so like she like doesn't want to get any therapy with me. Like I think we can save our relationship, but she's like just playing ignorant and like doesn't want to like work it out.
1:17:38🔗AdamHere's the point. If you're saying to a chick, look, the relationship's in trouble. I think we should go to therapy together. And she's saying, eh, I don't think so.
1:17:49🔗DrewAnd you're not married to that girl. It's an ex-girlfriend you're kind of back with. That is, uh, uh-uh.
1:17:57🔗Jenny McCarthyThat's her way of saying, bye-bye.
1:18:00🔗DrewNot only is it bye-bye, it's like, Daniel, you're kind of scaring me. Go ahead and make that therapist appointment, but make it for yourself.
1:18:18🔗AdamInto what? What, is that the F word? No, heck yeah. I'm saying, why wasn't it the F word? We're in safe harbor.
1:18:27🔗CallerOkay, but I mean, like, okay, but she's trying to have her cake and eat it too. I mean, she's into the casual sex, I'm not. And like, this is what's frustrating me.
1:18:36🔗AdamWhat do you mean, casual sex with you?
1:18:39🔗CallerNo, no, we were, this is my high school sweetheart. And now she's having casual sex, and she's the only person I've ever been with.
1:18:48🔗AdamHold on, this could be bogus, and I just got the bogus. I guess I was kinda asking for it.
1:18:54🔗DrewHere's the deal, Daniel's got stuff going on. She is completely out, completely, completely, completely, and he is clinging like crazy to the point where he's probably, she's probably scared that if she really lets him know how out she is, he'll kill himself.
1:19:36🔗Jenny McCarthyWell, I mean, I can understand. If it is his childhood sweetheart, it's gotta hurt.
1:19:39🔗DrewIt's hard to break, but that is supposed to end, late teens, early 20s for sure. And here's 2010, she's out. It's not like she's saying, Amanda, why isn't this working? We gotta figure out a way. No, she's like done. She's not having casual sex. She's going on with her life as a normal young adult.
1:19:57🔗AdamJenny said to have this conversation with Chris Hardwick many times, many an uncomfortable time. But dear friend, by the way, here's the thing. Yeah, you mean, and here's the thing about guys. Guys are thick. Guys are dense, you know? Like if you, you know, a 22 year old girl could say to a guy who was really head over heels for, look, it's not you, it's me. I just need time to find myself, blah, blah, blah. He just said, he'd go home and tell his buddies, she needs a week to get it together.
1:20:28🔗DrewHe'd go, okay, whatever you need, whatever you need. That's fine. Okay, you take your time. Well, I'll be here. And he'll be there with an abacus counting the minutes.
1:20:35🔗AdamYeah. I need to find myself, I need time for me, I need a whatever. Now just tell him you need to break up with him. Do the guy's favor.
1:20:42🔗DrewAnd then stop communicating with him. Stop the communication. Every time you have contact with him. I wish we were talking to Daniel's girlfriend.
1:20:49🔗Jenny McCarthyThat's why she is kind of the best girl in the world.
1:20:55🔗Jenny McCarthyNo, I don't think she's evil, but I think that she, because it's a high school sweetheart, that she still has 1% of kind of wanting that friendship still, but wants to have casual sex. So she doesn't want to completely let go, but doesn't want to really be in a relationship.
1:21:09🔗DrewThat's evil. Let's live in it at their worst.
1:21:10🔗AdamLet me talk to the angry Daniel one more time. Yes, Daniel, if you use, listen, A-hole, use any profanity, I'll hang up on your scrawny ass. All right, now listen, I'm trying to help. Please understand.
1:21:28🔗DrewGo ahead. That's not the same guy that's bogus. That's not the same guy that was.
1:21:33🔗CallerOkay, I'm still marriage material for her. Like everybody she's having casual sex with, like they've got nothing on me, and that's why she wants me more than these other guys.
1:21:45🔗AdamTell that to her snatch, huh? Okay, listen, Daniel, Daniel, Daniel, Daniel, please. I don't have anything. Oh my God. Safe harbor. Safe harbor, safe harbor, safe harbor. I love you guys. Yeah, see, we ain't throwing those crappy morning shows. We use all sorts of horrible language. We get cheap bluffs. It's great.
1:22:07🔗Jenny McCarthyGot a blonde sitting across from me.
1:22:09🔗AdamHere's a, here's a Daniel, this is a recipe for disaster. I mean, Daniel could do something stupid.
1:22:15🔗DrewYou know, it's weird. She never did our TV show. Jenny.
1:22:27🔗AdamDaniel could do something stupid to her and do something stupid to himself. At some point down the road.
1:22:32🔗DrewYeah, that's what's concerning me. This is that kind of energy.
1:22:35🔗AdamYeah, so Daniel, give it up. Let her go.
1:22:38🔗DrewGo see the therapist. Something is made it impossible for Daniel to let go. Once he's on, he's on and then can't flexibly let go. That's not normal.
1:22:48🔗AdamListen, if you're screwed up enough and the chick gives you a little booster shot every once in a while, it can go on for eternity.
1:22:57🔗AdamIf you got a combo between her coming, her paying you a visit, just enough and whatever. For some guys, it could be once a year. For some guys, it could be once a week. Whatever that threshold is, if you're effed up enough and she stays within that schedule, you can push these things on for years and years and years.
1:23:16🔗Jenny McCarthySo true, and girls are so good at doing that.
1:23:23🔗AdamIt's being cruel because you know he wants to believe so badly. And yes, you get that thing where you do that idealized thing where the first person I slept with is the person, we're gonna be friends for life.
1:23:35🔗DrewThe time we spent together, the life we created.
1:23:38🔗AdamWomen get weird too about losing their virginity. Like I said, the day they stop talking to the guy, they lost their virginity too, they become whores. So I gotta keep them around.
1:23:48🔗Jenny McCarthyBut then you wanna come back because you wanna regain that old feeling. And then you realize you don't wanna leave with that person. So you leave again. Cause I dated some guy, my first high school sweetheart for five years.
1:24:00🔗AdamDrew did the same thing. Was it dude? Probably same dude. Imagine that, he's got that on his resume. Talk about range. That's true and Jenny McCarthy, wow. Yeah, five years and it ended now. And then you got too big. You got a little, you blew up.
1:24:41🔗AdamNever saw him again. Oh, cause he killed himself that night.
1:24:44🔗Jenny McCarthyWell, we had a year in between of like, this is getting rocky, I started sleeping with people, he did too, but we were together for so long, we were confused because we still kind of cared about each other, but we wanted to be with other people.
1:24:56🔗AdamHere's the operative phrase, Sears, he did too. Yeah, yeah. It means he was good looking, he had a life, he was a reason, he was with someone like you, he had something going on. See, when you have nothing, then you get real clingy. Drew. Oh yes, Drew. That's why you're clinging to him.
1:27:26🔗AdamSo we could go, if you want to borrow a book, I don't know why you would, you'd have to head out to Sacramento.
1:27:31🔗DrewNot everyone takes an oath not to read. And for those of them not taking an oath, and you don't want to buy a book, you're gonna borrow.
1:27:39🔗AdamAnd like colleges would go out to Sacramento and borrow their books?
1:27:43🔗DrewIt's hard to understand why they have libraries anymore when we have something called the internet. But yes, they do have them.
1:27:48🔗AdamAnd it's a big house again. And for those who want to read, they could go borrow a book and then read it and then give it back. Do you have to read it?
1:28:00🔗DrewNo, it's like I said, some people do take an oath. And they can still check them out. They wouldn't have to read. No, the librarian wouldn't know. She'd be impressed if you just checked the books out. And you've seen this in pornography. It's always a very, very good looking woman with brown hair and kind of small glasses.
1:28:14🔗AdamOh, okay, I'm gonna check out, can't you go? One more time, what's it called? Library. It doesn't have the word book in it though. That's, you know what I'm saying? Like if I'm selling falafel, I got the word falafel, you know, falafel hut, you know what I mean? I'm gonna call it library, you know what I mean? I want the name.
1:28:42🔗AdamLet me tell you something. I'm not necessarily proud of, but it's a God's honest. I noticed it when I was going number one. I had a little- Sargas. A little scent of the sack. Oh. A little essence. And then I realized I have not taken a shower on American soil. Oh.
1:31:17🔗DrewIt's your whole life. So there's two different ways that the penis can get curved. One is being born that way basically, and the other is it developing because of trauma. If it sort of develops later, vitamin E, 800 units a day can be useful. If it's just you, sort of genetically how you're endowed, you can live with it. But we have learned through talking to Dr. Alter, who does the procedures to correct this curve, that a lot of women complain that the curve downward is uncomfortable.
1:31:43🔗AdamYeah, that seems like a tough one. And Drew says that's the way it goes.
1:31:49🔗DrewYeah, it depends how you position things with your partner, but be that as it may, if you want to correct it there, curve doctors are correct these things.
1:32:14🔗AdamYeah, I'd say a little upward curve is normal, and a little sideways is a little less normal, and then down is a, but some curvature, fairly common. And not me, though. I'm like a landing strip.
1:32:35🔗AdamYeah, something like a landing strip that, you know, one of those jets that can do the vertical take-offs would use.
1:32:45🔗DrewRight, right, right, a small landing strip.
1:32:47🔗AdamHarrier, harrier landing strip. Yeah, like the kind of ones I have, more like a helipad. All right, let's take a little break. We'll be right back.
1:32:55🔗CallerAll right, guys, bottom line, here's the deal. Looking to hook up, sick of wasting time with the wrong person.
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1:33:25🔗AdamWell, that's the show, everybody. Belly laughs. Name of the book, Jenny McCarthy. Dear, dear, dear friend. God bless her for coming in here. Speaking openly about masturbation. Good book. Someone who's not going to speak openly about masturbation tomorrow night, Alanis Morissette.
1:34:03🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Ingold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.