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Voiceover
Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew, board-certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. The Living End is here tonight. Chris Scott and Andy are all back in the studio. I was...
1:30🔗
Adam
He's always a curve, always a troublemaker. Well, we'll pop his cherry tonight, as we like to say here in the States.
1:36🔗
Adam
I saw I was looking at the USA Today newspaper today and in the calendar section or whatever, the arts section, whatever they got there, saw The Living End, saw a review for the record. I think got like four and a half stars or three, whatever. At a foe. Yeah, four and a half out of four, yeah. Yeah, they owe you a half a star. So, and you can apply that toward your next review. It's credit. Yeah, by the same token in the New York, what do I got minus, oh, in the Post. New York Post, I have two shows, one minus four stars, one minus three stars, so I'm down.
2:16🔗
You're in debt.
2:17🔗
They're holding you out there in Radio Land, you're holding five fingers when you said minus four.
2:22🔗
Adam
I know, there I added them. Now, I'm down seven. The point is, if I do a four star show, I'm still in the hole three.
2:29🔗
I'm confused, I found in math.
2:32🔗
Drew
Yeah, the whole star rating system has been bastardized. The reason you're confused is it should be zero to four.
2:38🔗
Adam
You can't go under, I argue that I can't get minus stars. That's unfair. It's unfair to the people that work very hard to get zero stars. I know, wait a minute, it is good for them. It's horrible for me. But here's the point.
2:54🔗
Adam
I think it got three and a half out of four stars. Correct. And then I looked at it and I thought, I should read this review because The Living End is coming on tonight. And then I saw something like shiny or something. I looked the other way and that was it. But I do remember, good review.
3:19🔗
Adam
Yeah, well, USA Today is really a newspaper for idiots. So they should know. I mean, it's just, people that read that paper have attention deficit disorder anyway.
3:37🔗
Caller
I thought you were gonna say how music appears to assholes, but it appears to idiots. We're actually quite complimented by that.
3:53🔗
Adam
These guys are going out with Blink 182 this summer and No Doubt and also doing an Aussie Invasion tour with Jet, who were in here and drunk, maybe not drunk by Australian standards.
4:12🔗
Adam
All right, those guys were loaded. And the Vines, who I don't think have been in here, but if they're from Australia, they would have been drunk, right?
4:20🔗
Adam
A lot of boozing going on in Australia and proud of it. And they don't seem like here, we do a fair amount of drinking, but we apologize. Do you know, like here, when we smoke and we drink, we do it, but we're always quitting or we're doing it outside or we don't want to inconvenience anybody. It seems like in Australia, the people that smoke smoke, the people that drink drink and they don't make a big deal out of it. I like that. It's true, please, right in the middle.
4:49🔗
The Living End
We're pretty straight up, you know, if you're going to smoke, smoke, if you're going to drink, drink, you know.
4:54🔗
The Living End
But I like, I don't smoke, you see, so I like the fact that I can go to a bar here and not walk out of there coughing my lungs up.
5:14🔗
Adam
All right. In a boozing nation, but, and maybe this is just, I'm looking at Australia through my rose colored, wait, rose lens spectacles.
5:28🔗
Adam
I don't know if the word tinted is in there, isn't it? Okay, here's the point. Here's the point.
5:34🔗
Adam
It seems like they do a lot of boozin over there, but they get away with it. Like they don't have a, they don't, you know what I mean?
5:43🔗
Drew
Yeah, I think, but I mean not in a sinister way, but did you know that for many periods of history, Australia has the highest per capita standard of living of any country in the world.
5:55🔗
Drew
Wow. We did pretty bloody well. I mean you think about, you don't think about it since Australia being that way.
5:59🔗
Caller
But the thing about Australia is there's not as much of anything in Australia. There's not as much, there's not as much poverty, yeah. But there's not as much.
6:09🔗
Caller
Everything else. Desert. Well, we've got a lot of desert, yes. We rival Africa in those stakes.
6:37🔗
Adam
We're gonna hear something off of modern. Modern Artillery. Yeah. Yeah, in just a couple of few and then we'll hear something else off it in the 11 o'clock hour. But first we'll go to the phones and speak to Megan who's. Hi Megan. 13 and seven months pregnant. Hello.
6:58🔗
I don't know.
7:00🔗
Adam
All right, who got you pregnant? Oh yeah. Oh you know him. Big B. Yeah. Yeah. He's a horny eighth grader in the land at Brandon. Way to go B.
7:16🔗
He was good.
7:18🔗
Oh, how old is he?
7:27🔗
Oh, no, not yet. He'll be 18 in about three months.
7:32🔗
And I guess my question was, would he get in trouble?
8:08🔗
Caller
Well, my mom knows who he is. You know, she doesn't like him because of his age, but you know, she respects the fact that he is my baby's father.
8:17🔗
Adam
You gotta respect that. Sure. Especially, you know, with her, well, her bar mitzvah's coming up. She's 13.
8:27🔗
Adam
That's right. That's where young, that's a ritual where the young Jewish girl becomes a man. Uh, are you Jewish, Megan? No.
8:38🔗
Adam
I can't believe, you guys know what we're talking about. This is not Jewish behavior, by the way. You don't have Jews in Australia. Well, you don't have the Wiley North American show. Oh, we've heard of him, though. Yeah. Oh, you should come, you should go by the, we got a Jew Zoo. You put change in your pockets. They come running at you. You give them a pat on the head, swing them by. You guys, I see some Jews. They're great.
9:02🔗
Adam
Yeah, but until you see them in real life, until you see them in real life, that just the pictures don't do them justice.
9:23🔗
Drew
Yeah. Bad times. Will you, will you please give this child up for adoption? Please, Megan. Oh my God. Give this child a fighting chance.
9:30🔗
Adam
Wait a minute. Here's where, here's where the show gets entertaining because I bet Megan doesn't believe in that.
9:47🔗
Adam
Well, you know, if you, if you fail just a couple of grades, you'll join the child. Like you both will hit the ninth grade about the same time. If you just get held back like two or three years, it'd be cool having your kid in the ninth grade with you. Cause like when you're picking up for a, you know, dodge ball, you can actually pick. It's like, I'm going to take my son. Would that be cool? No.
10:12🔗
Adam
Hold on. Isn't there some sort of, how come there's no law that says you can't, you have to give the kid up for adoption or something. And what's your mom going to do? And what the hell are you supposed to do at school? I mean, you're showing, right?
10:33🔗
Yeah, he did.
10:42🔗
There was drug possession.
11:07🔗
I wonder if Nature's plan was...
11:16🔗
Drew
Why would Nature do this? Why would Nature want somebody who is an abuse survivor, sexually abused, abandoning father? Why would they want that person, Nature, to have a child immediately?
11:33🔗
Drew
The only thing I can figure is that it's like, oh, this one's broken, let's replace it. Yeah. That's it, except unfortunately you're gonna replace it with another broken one.
11:46🔗
Drew
He's not gonna get trouble if he marries you, I suppose. If you become an emancipated minor. Yeah, well.
11:53🔗
Caller
Well, I thought you couldn't get married until you were at least 16 and that's a secret.
11:57🔗
Drew
I believe, right, I believe you can become an emancipated minor. I don't know what the legalities would be, but that's how you'd have to do it.
12:08🔗
Drew
They might as well. And the usual situation for somebody like your boyfriend, the father of your child, there should be another term for that. The boyfriend that is the father. The bother.
12:39🔗
Drew
Let me just finish. The thing is that most of these situations, he's trying to jumpstart himself.
12:47🔗
Drew
In most of these situations, if the older male is gonna get in trouble, it's because the parents raise hell. That's when the trouble starts. And if your mom's all okay with this, now that might turn out to be...
13:06🔗
Drew
Well, the child will be in the same school with mom and dad will be with his granddad. It'll be perfect.
13:14🔗
The Living End
I'm going back to Australia with the penjel. We don't even know what to say. It's cool. Good luck. Good luck.
13:52🔗
Adam
You're gonna donate an egg. An egg is the only thing you donate for five grand. They just used the word donate because it makes the people feel better about themselves. But you're not donating an egg. You're selling an egg for five grand. You're harvesting an egg, yeah.
14:08🔗
Adam
Back in Australia, we have a thing called the baker's dozen. When you go and buy some eggs, that's a 13.
14:18🔗
Drew
Oh, so that one egg, yeah. So Nicole, here's a point. Yeah. If the girl gives 13, is that what we're talking about?
14:35🔗
Caller
Oh, I actually haven't looked into the price of fun and the paper and I called them and asked them what like the procedure was, but I kind of just found out about the money compensation. I've heard that it like ranges from like $2,500 to like hundreds of thousands if they're looking for a certain type of person.
14:54🔗
Adam
Yeah, to me, you gotta have a celebrity egg for that much. A cloddy Schiffer egg or something like that.
15:18🔗
Adam
So by the way, you can be insulted or flattered by how much to tell you your egg is worth because they size you up, they see a hook nose and a fat ass and a high school equivalency test and it's like, I'll give you whatever's in my pocket, $26.52, there you go.
15:37🔗
Caller
They said that what they do is, well, they first do like a big screen process and then once the couple picks you for, you know, your little...
15:44🔗
Drew
Nicole, Nicole, the procedure for the harvesting, is it include a laparoscopy or is it transvaginal?
15:50🔗
Adam
You could just put, you just took a thousand bucks off the egg price for her not understanding your question. Yeah, so he makes her dumb.
15:57🔗
Caller
They put me under anesthetic and I'm in the day hospital and then I go home. They didn't tell me what the name of the procedure was.
16:04🔗
Adam
Another 500, another 500 for not asking. Yeah, we got a thousand, we're down 1500 now. We're down 3500, Nicole.
16:12🔗
Adam
And Nicole, let's see if we can figure out what your egg would be worth. How tall are you? How tall are you?
16:26🔗
Adam
140, that's all right. Oh, hold on, let me do some quick radio math. 5'4, 140, put it on the phone. I got 5'3, and 3'16, 151. So it's a little bit stocky. Let's see, who were the allied powers in World War II? The good guys, yeah.
17:17🔗
Adam
250, you just got tacked on for kissing some band ass. All right, all right. How much does a gallon of water weigh?
17:39🔗
Caller
I've got two very important questions that will deliver this person's IQ. Excuse me. Nicole, what color is your refrigerator?
17:59🔗
Adam
She burnt you. All right, it's now back up to five grand, Nicole. All right, so you gotta lose 10 pounds and don't talk when you go in for the interview.
18:10🔗
Well, I've got big boobs if that helps.
18:19🔗
Drew
Bouncy, bouncy. It's a procedure, the surgery like any other, and it can have risks. People can die from anesthesia, infections, bleeding. They hyper stimulate your ovaries in order to get it to produce the follicles from which they harvest the eggs. They can stimulate to the point they actually outstrip their own blood supply and can die. There's concerns, vague concerns, that it may increase risk of ovarian cancer. So it's not without its risk. You are a biological entity, not a mechanical entity. Now if it's important to you to survive and to get the money for the eggs, people do this.
18:53🔗
Adam
It's kind of weird. I mean, if you're doing it, it's kind of weird because if you're doing it so a couple can have a child, then it's really philanthropic and if you're doing it to make a few bucks then it's sort of...
19:11🔗
Adam
Well, but what if someone says, look, I can bring happiness to a new couple that otherwise couldn't have a child and I got money for tuition?
19:34🔗
Adam
Mm-hmm. All right. This is from The Living End. You queued up there, Chris? This one's called, Who's Gonna Save Us? Modern Artillery.
23:04🔗
Adam
Name of the, that is excellent. The, oh, it is. Today is when that CD is out, so go get it. We're going to, I guess we gotta take a quick break. Oh, but man, we gotta feel, we got the feel-good story of the night. We're gonna come back. Girlfriend died a year ago, hasn't been able to have a new girlfriend since. All right, Drew, can we do better than that? How about the reform? Four, Lesbo. Hold on a second. Rain? You're 14? You're lesbian? All right, hang on. And it's gonna get depressing, Drew.
23:44🔗
Adam
You're gonna find out there's sexual abuse, and they're trying to pay back her dad. Jordan?
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Yeah, hello?
24:03🔗
Adam
All right, but that's easy math. Even a little pain in the ass like you could do that, man.
24:22🔗
Caller
She had a heart condition due to like, she's taking like medication when she was younger. I don't exactly know what kind. And I guess like they upped the dosage as she was getting older and it gave her a heart condition. And-
24:39🔗
Caller
Something like attention deficit or something like that. It was some stupid Prozac thing. I don't know the details.
24:48🔗
Adam
All right, but listen, if he was going to lie, he'd say she stepped on a landmine. He wouldn't give it some sketchy, like who the hell knows.
25:01🔗
Caller
Her parents were like really like closed off as far as like spilling the beans on as far as all that stuff goes. So I didn't even know.
25:12🔗
Caller
She thought she knew what was wrong with her. Like they said that it was like attention deficit, but they were just pumping like random medications in it to see if it was making it better. And I guess it didn't.
25:29🔗
Adam
All right. So Jordan, she was your girlfriend. You were having sex with her and everything?
25:37🔗
Drew
And she died. Did it surprise you that you might have trouble forming a new relationship?
25:41🔗
Caller
Well, I haven't been able to have a bond with someone like, I don't know, like physical arousal is an obvious thing.
25:52🔗
Adam
We're going to help him. We got to take a break. Living End is here. Very sad. We'll get a kid back up on his feet. Maybe we'll send over a hooker or something. See if we can snap him out of his funk. Take a quick break. We'll be right back.
26:28🔗
Adam
Hey, everybody, it's the Loveline of Adam. That's Dr. Drew, The Living End, here tonight. Chris.
26:37🔗
Adam
The band got a little CD out called Modern Artillery, and we'll hear something else off of that in the 11 o'clock hour. Now, let me just say something before we get back into the show. I got this ridiculous truck they gave me for a week to drive around.
26:57🔗
Adam
It's got the Viper V10 engine in it. It's the most obnoxious vehicle ever built. Well, as opposed to a V8.
27:10🔗
Adam
And Aston Martin. And a lot of people have made a V12 over the years, Mercedes. Everyone's got one. But not too many V10s out there. Right. Anyway, the thing about Ferrari, they would make a V12 that was like under a four liter. And this thing's a V10 and it's like eight and a half liters. The thing gets like four miles to gallons. Most obnoxious vehicle ever built. It's got the Viper engine in it. Anyway, here's all I'm saying. Do we need as many? I'm trying, you know, when you hop in a new car, you got to get the presets on the radio going. Can't we just agree on one style of preset so we can all, you know, like here's what I'm saying. You get to the station you want, you hold the button down for a three count, pow, it's preset. Now that's number one. You go kick, isn't that one all right?
28:04🔗
Adam
Do I got to find that goddamn button that says preset set and then hit that and then, there's certain things we could just kind of agree on.
28:12🔗
Drew
By the way, the one that you need two hands for is not a good idea for the automobile. Just general principle.
28:19🔗
Adam
Here's all I'm saying. I just want to standardize certain things. I want us to decide what's the best way to do it is and then that's it. Every car's preset, exactly the same.
28:39🔗
Drew
You know what? My daughter tonight invented a new, she said she wanted to invent a new TV show called Genius or Retard.
28:47🔗
Drew
And basically like, who invented One Plus One is Two? Genius or Retard? And she had all, and she goes, who invented Ooh-ee-ooh-ah-ah? Genius or Retard? Wow, this is genius.
29:21🔗
Adam
The other thing I discovered in the cars, I think GM is still about the only company where they decide there's that button you got to push in to get the keys out of the ignition. So of course you're fighting with them. What the hell? And then it's like, oh yeah. How's every other car company get along without pushing a button? If your keys fall out when you're driving.
30:22🔗
Caller
I honestly, it didn't really faze me. I didn't catch it, if you know what I mean. I dated girls and I thought that it was something wrong with myself. I thought that they weren't the right person. They were doing something I wasn't enjoying, blah, blah, blah. And then as the dates kept going, I started realizing that it was more of like, they're not who I was expecting them to be. Like the relationship that I wanted, that I had, I wasn't getting.
30:52🔗
Caller
To be honest, the weekend that she passed on the day before Friday, we got into like a huge argument and I told her that I didn't want to be around her, that she was a bad influence on me, blah, blah, blah. She said that she still wanted to be in a relationship, but she wanted to make sure that I wanted to be in a relationship and I stopped talking to her. And that weekend was the weekend that she died. And so like that weekend I felt all bad that I was being the person that I was. And I actually wrote an apology letter and bought flowers and did the whole like, I'm a stupid boyfriend makeup thing. And when I went looking for the college, like no one knew where she was. And then someone handed me a flyer with her picture and like the date on it. And like what time we could see her body at the funeral home.
31:46🔗
Adam
Yeah. Well, that's why Drew and I, after each show, tell each other we love each other. Because you don't know. You don't know.
32:05🔗
Adam
But he doesn't seem, yeah, Jordan seems like he, and it's been a year. It doesn't seem like he's in denial. It just seems like emotionally, he's like 11 or 12 years old. It's like talking to your kid, right?
32:20🔗
Drew
And those both of us keep thinking to ourselves, we're expecting a bogus in a second, like some sort of punch line.
33:26🔗
Adam
Right, right. All right, sorry. Okay, I'm not trying, Jordan's not tracking, I'm not sure what his deal is.
33:31🔗
Drew
One of the questions I had for him was, what was the girlfriend's perception of their relationship?
33:41🔗
Drew
Okay, but listen, what was really the relationship, the nature of the relationship? Why didn't he know that she had a terminal illness? Life was in danger. When she died, why let somebody call him and tell him?
33:54🔗
Drew
Anyway, here's the deal. He's having a delayed grief reaction. That sounds pathological, sort of.
34:00🔗
Adam
Not really. It just sounds like he's dating some chicks he's not doing to. And by the way, my girlfriend died is a smooth opening line. I mean, it's going to get you, it might.
34:15🔗
Drew
Unless, provided he doesn't seem injured by it. If he seems disturbed, then it's out of fact.
34:21🔗
Adam
It's important to blame yourself for a little bit. But, and here's the mistake I made. Girlfriend died, it's good to say that. I blame myself. That's another good thing to say. But then don't keep going, say I ran her over.
34:35🔗
Adam
You gotta say blame yourself and then she died of a disease. If you then go, I blame myself because I backed over, they will get upset. Yeah, they'll think that might happen to them. All right.
35:07🔗
Drew
Are you sure, this is the same question I had for Jordan, are you sure that if we talked to him, he would say that you are his girlfriend?
35:26🔗
Drew
You know what? I was reading, again, I read this book called Cracked about sort of a memoir of my experience taking care of patients and something I've put a lot into. And I make myself nuts by reading the reviews on amazon.com. Hang on a second, hang on a second. And some of the reviews, I want to reach through the computer screen and throttle the people that are, because it's such just aggressive nonsense. I would welcome good criticism.
35:51🔗
Drew
The point is, when I complain about this, our good listeners come to my rescue and write these wonderful, wonderful notes. They really do. I felt you-
36:02🔗
Drew
I felt you about to take off after our listeners. So I just wanted to say thank you for all your kindness. I really do appreciate it. So go ahead, on leash.
36:10🔗
Adam
I'm done with all of you tonight. I'm going to talk about this car for the next hour and 40 minutes. And we're going to have a Living Dead music marathon. That's really where this night's going. Cause I've been asked for everybody. I'm going to, we're going to go outside. We're going to blow some fags.
36:30🔗
Adam
I'm talking to everybody tonight. It's like playing a handball against the drapes. I can't get anything going. People aren't talking. They don't, uh-huh, uh-huh. They act like you called them and bothered them. Here's what it is. It's as if they're watching their favorite show and we called them, uh-huh, and they don't have TiVo.
36:57🔗
Adam
All right, at least I have an answer. And I'm putting Ashley on hold. Who are we talking to?
37:08🔗
Adam
I want you to think about your attitude. And I want you to think about why all car radio preset buttons aren't the same. Why there's gotta be different menu for every car. Okay?
37:34🔗
Caller
Yeah, and then I saw you, Adam, on The Man Show, and you look just like how I pictured you too.
37:47🔗
Caller
The reason you're not having sex with your boyfriend is because you're picturing Adam and Drew.
38:00🔗
Drew
I feel very paternalistic to our listeners tonight. I feel very paternalistic to our listeners tonight.
38:05🔗
Drew
No, because you're going to go on the attack. I can feel it. It's all right, it's all right.
38:16🔗
The Living End
How's that? That's probably not the correct answer, is it? But that's what we do in Australia. Yeah. No good? Move on.
38:40🔗
Adam
I want you, all right, let's work on that. We were working last night, I was working with Drew, where he was practicing shutting up on the air. And- He was, he got pretty good at it.
38:52🔗
Adam
Yeah, same as me, by the way. All right, let's try it. You ready? All right, now hold on, don't distract him, boys. You ready?
39:04🔗
Adam
Drew, shh, totally be quiet. We can hear what you're thinking. And Drew, don't shut your eyes. It's like you're falling asleep.
39:13🔗
Adam
Yeah, I know, but I need you to be lucid but quiet. All right. Because what I'm gonna, no, I'm gonna be talking. I'm gonna need you paying attention to me. Not sleeping. All right, now let's practice some head nodding. Silent head nodding.
39:29🔗
Adam
Shh, shh, just nod. Okay, and now do a thing where like you raise one eyebrow, like, hey, what? And then, oh, I understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And don't breathe through your nose. It makes too much nostril sound. All right, and now, now a silent laugh. Yeah, I still, I heard some nostril sound, but it's like, yeah, but don't stop on the floor. I don't wanna know your hair, but I don't wanna be able to see that you're enjoying what I'm saying. All right, eyes open again. I don't, I don't want you to think you're sleeping. All right, that's good. That's pretty good, Drew. Let's work on that for the next, next break. It's just all the way through. Boy, boy.
40:09🔗
Adam
It looked, looked, looked like a pro. Like this man's been doing radio for 20 years, right?
40:16🔗
Adam
The Living End is here tonight. We'll take a quick break and we'll be right back after this.
40:22🔗
Okay, okay, wait, wait, my hair, my hair.
40:25🔗
Adam
We'll be right back. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, The Living End, in here tonight. Chris Scott and Annie.
40:54🔗
Adam
We're gonna hear something else off the Modern Artillery CD in the 11 o'clock hour. We're going to... If John from System of a Down, by the way, is listening, I'm gonna call him during the next break. He's got an emergency.
41:09🔗
Adam
Great band. They're dear, dear friends of Loveline. And it's probably got something to do with porn.
41:35🔗
Hi.
41:44🔗
Caller
Okay, well, I was with this guy and it was kind of like a one night stand and he had really long balls. And I just wanted to know if it's something that you're born with, because I've seen a lot of balls.
42:41🔗
Caller
I wanted to know, like, if there was some type of surgery, because he had a really big penis, and I wanted to know if there was some type of surgery that would, like, cut something that would make your penis bigger and your balls longer or something.
43:05🔗
Caller
Oh, I was wondering, or is it from, like, not wearing underwear? Is it really from, I mean, can it really be caused from heat?
43:26🔗
Adam
All right, Melissa, what are you, you pre-med? What are you doing right now? In college?
43:47🔗
Adam
All right, but let me tell you something about that art school. I don't know what you're studying, but that modern stuff all sucks. You guys gotta learn to paint for it.
44:05🔗
Adam
Take a bunch of long balls, put them in a bowl, put them on the table, put some fruit around them, you sketch them up.
44:14🔗
Adam
Yeah, I got that long ball thing too, but it's mainly because my penis is small and it's relative.
44:26🔗
Adam
But one always hangs lower than the other. It's the kind of, you know, when they bounce. Yeah.
44:56🔗
Caller
Well, first of all, Dr. Drew, I loved your book and Adam. I think you're the king of analogies.
45:05🔗
Caller
My question is, I am on a seizure medication right now. And I'm, I just actually switched to a new neurologist and he's switching me to Carbitrol and like I was reading online and it said that like Carbitrol, like if you're on any sort of birth control, like the birth control will no longer be effective.
45:48🔗
Drew
Okay, so it's another carbamazepine basically, which is what Tegretol is. Okay. And those people take all the time and are on birth control pills, though any medicine certainly can affect the efficacy of a birth control pill. This is a new seizure medicine that I've never used, so I wouldn't be a good person to ask about this. And it said what you looked for online that specifically it interferes with the effectiveness of birth control?
46:17🔗
Caller
Well, I don't know, like, yeah, it was just like saying the side effects and it just said, like, caution to women, like, if you're on birth control, like, it will not be effective, like, while taking this medicine.
46:32🔗
Caller
Yeah, but, like, when I was on Trileptal, like, I talked to my gynecologist and she was like, well, don't worry it, like, it doesn't affect the devil shot.
46:40🔗
Adam
Listen, if you're nailing a chick, you should hope she has a seizure in the middle of the sex, you know what I mean?
46:48🔗
Drew
She lets slip in there and she's on the depo shot. And that, again, I can't see where that's gonna be affected by these particular medicines, but again, that's a new seizure medicine I've never used.
47:48🔗
Adam
I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Well, The Living End is here tonight. We're going to hear something all over the new CD, Modern Artillery.
47:59🔗
Adam
Spoke to John from System of a Down. Surprise, surprise, it was a porn-related call. Got the whole Swedish erotica series is coming out on DVD.
48:19🔗
Adam
It's, you know, porn is from Sweden, like hand lotion is from Norwegian fishermen. It's really made in China, you know what I mean?
48:37🔗
Adam
Yeah, oh, okay. Which does go nicely with the porn. I just mean, I think everyone likes it. You put Sweden and porn together, you get good imagery.
48:50🔗
Drew
So intriguing that you're drawn to that 80s vintage stuff because that's what imprinted in your brain.
48:58🔗
Drew
Yeah, but that's what your idea of woman and porn and sex is, it just stuck, it's in your head.
49:29🔗
Caller
Well, I had a pretty serious motorcycle accident about a year ago. Ever since then, you know, I've had multiple surgeries ever since then. It seems like I have a lot of animosity toward my girlfriend because it almost seems like she takes the trivial things like walking and stuff like that for granted, whereas I do it with pain.
50:03🔗
Adam
No. Why not, by the way? Shouldn't you be strung out on pain medication? Well... That would be.
50:10🔗
Caller
The pain medication just... it made me feel almost like I was there, but I wasn't there.
50:23🔗
Adam
What's your... is your girlfriend... is she doing like the river dance in front of you while you're struggling to get off the sofa or is she just getting up to go to the refrigerator?
50:35🔗
Caller
Well, it's not so much that she's resentful. She just takes for granted that like there are days that I hurt bad enough, I don't want to get out of bed, but she doesn't understand the fact that I hurt that bad and she wants to get up and go run around town and do whatever.
50:55🔗
Adam
Yeah, so here's the thing. If she's getting up and running around town and making you feel bad because she's able to do that, that's your problem. But if she's saying to you, get up, come on, don't be lazy, you should be coming with me when you have a couple of steel plates in your head, then that's her problem.
51:20🔗
Adam
So, but which is it? Is it her not being sympathetic to your thing or is it you just feeling almost jealous of her mobility?
51:28🔗
Caller
No, it's, you know, she's the one that she wants me to get up and just go run around town and do it with her.
51:34🔗
Adam
All right. Okay. So you've explained to her that you've had multiple surgeries on your legs and you're unable to do that. And what is her answer to that?
51:43🔗
Caller
That I'm still on crutches and I have an external fixator down my left leg, you know, stuff like that.
51:49🔗
Drew
What do you mean she doesn't understand it? She can see that it's there. Well, what do you mean?
51:53🔗
Caller
Well, it's like when she wants me to get up and let's go do whatever around town that she thinks I'll be able to just, you know, get up at the spur of the moment.
52:01🔗
Adam
Yeah. We get, we get. Really? No head trauma? No head trauma. Seems like everyone is cold tonight. Had some form of head trauma. Yeah. We understand. She wants you to get move around. She doesn't see the clutches or what's the external fixator?
52:24🔗
Adam
It seemed like, like it would do a fair amount of convincing to most people seeing that halo around your knee with all the pins going into it.
52:53🔗
Adam
This is like, he's from, he's calling from Arkansas, obviously he's in no condition to kick my ass.
53:00🔗
Adam
Hey, let's just break up. Look, you're walking around, you got splints, you got bandages, you got screws, you got plates, you got pins, you're on crutches. She doesn't understand.
53:09🔗
Drew
Well, now that she's being completely non-empathic about it and she, that's called empathic failure and she may not be capable of being empathic.
53:29🔗
Adam
But here's the thing. It's like, I want you to get out of here and keep walking and don't look back. Could you throw a TV dinner in the microwave real quick and bring my Gatorade from the kitchen before? Like, I'd have just a quick punch list of things I needed her to pick up before she actually then left.
53:54🔗
The Living End
Well, on a show where there's 13 year olds that are, you know, sort of, 24 is like, old age.
54:15🔗
Yes.
54:18🔗
Caller
Well, let's see, I'm recently single, and I've been talking to an ex who I've kept in touch with for the last two years that we've been broken up, and he always, like, says, like, oh, well, you know, you were always the best, and I believe him, even if he could be lying, and I'm pretty sure he's slept with a lot of people, or at least a few in the time that we've been broken up, but the thing is, he was the best, too.
55:08🔗
Drew
I imagine Cookie is sort of pouring coffee at a diner. Do you know what's the name of that famous diner in St. Paul?
55:37🔗
Drew
All right, and you want to get back with this old boyfriend who doesn't sound like he's very serious about you. Is that accurate?
55:57🔗
Caller
Because he wanted to move out of state and I didn't. And he did go, but then he came back here and he waited like half a year for me to break up with the person I was with and it didn't happen, so just as he leaves, we break up.
56:53🔗
Adam
Not really observant. Like you suffered a lot. More like you saw your dad drink himself to death or something, that kind of stuff. Not like your head's on a swivel. Anything? Have you seen tragedy?
57:06🔗
Caller
Speaking of tragedy, this past Saturday I went to visit a friend in St. Paul and on 94 West, the highway that connects Minneapolis and St. Paul, two cars exploded in front of me.
57:22🔗
Caller
The friend that I was with, he's like, oh my, you know, and I look up and like this car smashes into the back of a truck and instant flames and there's a cookie jumping out of the car like daredevil or something and running towards the truck to try to help the guy.
57:42🔗
Caller
Well, the guy in the truck, his door wouldn't open and he kicked his window out and I ran towards him and obviously he was in shock because he just laid there. And I grabbed him by his arms and helped him like safely to the side of the highway and then I was driving and was directing traffic like for the cars to stop and back up.
58:25🔗
Caller
Yeah. My mother and biological father are not together, but my mother is married and my parents are awesome.
58:45🔗
Caller
Chemical dependency counselor. After she quit drinking, she went into chemical dependency and social work.
59:24🔗
Adam
That's what the gene is. The non-alcoholic. I just start masturbating and crying when I see tragedy.
59:32🔗
Adam
That was my instinct. Just wear some lube, give me some lotion. I'm going to need Kleenex for tears and other things.
59:49🔗
Drew
It's the thrill gene. They are completely at their best in extreme circumstances. And so, like in war and stuff, they do much better than the rest of us. They survive. The rest of us get a spear in the back or something.
1:00:07🔗
Adam
It's hard to defend yourself when you're wiping tears and beating yourself. It's just hard to defend. It's not a great posture for a sword fight.
1:00:20🔗
Adam
It's not great. I mean, later it moved into arrows and then all the Corollas had died that way.
1:00:26🔗
Drew
So, for Cookie, let's give her a blessing. Go ahead, back to her boyfriend, Dick's boyfriend.
1:00:31🔗
Drew
We'd say go back to Dick's boyfriend. Based on everything she told us, we can't see any reason not to go back. Even though it's kind of a spurious situation and all.
1:00:51🔗
Adam
Let me explain what went on with the band. They had the, what was the first one? Cookie, both the way Cookie crumbles.
1:01:03🔗
Adam
Yeah, that's where they peaked. It's like first time at the plate, triple off the wall, stand up triple, but then the next they just had to leg out, feel their choice.
1:01:36🔗
Caller
Hi. I'm having a little bit of a problem. I've been on a depression medication effects for the past year. And since then, like my I'm not feeling, you know, I'm not able to get aroused. My orgasms like aren't very good anymore.
1:02:01🔗
Drew
You know, that's the medication. That's really a typical thing. Prozac and Zoloft are probably the most notorious for doing this. But effects for many people can shut you down pretty good. And many women, the fact that you can have orgasm is is sort of above average as it pertains to being shut down by these medications. Very often when women have this sort of experience from the antidepressant medicines, sex seems like weird and like, why would people do that? They have no arousal. So you have some arousal, you have unsatisfying orgasms, that's all the effects are. It will go away and go back to normal if you get off the medicine. There are at least, yeah, there are at least three alternatives. Remeron, Serizone and Wellbutrin do not cause sexual dysfunction like this.
1:03:01🔗
Drew
There's something called Cyproheptadine that has been suggested for you, sir, on top of things like effects. Wellbutrin is usually what they would add. And some psychiatrists are trying Viagra. The interesting thing about Viagra, they just abandoned the research on women with Viagra because...
1:03:22🔗
Drew
Not themselves. It was on the stick shift of your buddies. Yeah. No. It was on the stick shift. Here's the reason they abandoned the research. They abandoned the research because repeatedly, no matter how they studied this, they discovered that they had no trouble creating the physical manifestations of arousal in women, meaning they get the blood supply up, the clitoral engorgement, the lubrication. But they discovered in women, there was a complete disconnect between arousal and desire. And men, they're the same. You get arousal, you're desire, that's it, you're game on.
1:03:56🔗
Adam
You want to do it? Women could have an engorged clitoris. Ready to roll and not be thinking naughty thoughts. Women are complex.
1:04:23🔗
The Living End
This girl is depressed because she... She's not getting aroused because she's on antidepressants.
1:04:28🔗
Drew
It's actually a viable point is that in relationships are important when you're depressed and if you're screwing with them or not...
1:04:35🔗
Adam
Well, wait a minute. I want to get back to the Viagra stuff. So they were able to arouse women but no connection between...
1:04:44🔗
Adam
All right. So then what did the what did the arousal feel like to them? Is it just feel like you're as if like you're sometimes your ass falls asleep on a long car ride?
1:05:17🔗
Drew
These interviews lately with women's magazines and things where I'm trying to convince them. I can't believe I'm getting into these discussions that men and women are different.
1:05:27🔗
Drew
And I recently, I was talking to Oprah's magazine today and I said, look, I gave the pizza analogy.
1:05:32🔗
Adam
You're talking to Oprah's magazine? Big news flash, by the way. I guess who's going to be on the cover of next month's Oprah?
1:05:51🔗
Drew
I gave the pizza analogy, you know, and I attributed it to you. Which is? That, you know, for men, sex is all good. It's all pizza. You don't have to worry about your technique. Ladies, relax. It's just, you know.
1:06:05🔗
Drew
It's all good. Right. And the editors went, unacceptable. No, it's not true. It's not true. Refuse to accept that. What?
1:06:12🔗
Adam
I don't know why, why, by the way, why do women want to become men or want to have, I mean, what's wrong with the differences between women and men? I don't, we, we should celebrate these things.
1:06:26🔗
Adam
I don't understand the thing. It's like, yeah, they should be, they should be entering in the combat zones and fighting right along with the guys. They should be doing this. We don't want to do the crap you do, but you think we want to breastfeed or crap out a kid or watch crappy shows or talk to Oprah magazine? Oh, wait a minute, Drew.
1:06:47🔗
Adam
That's right. All right. Here's the point. Don't do what we do. We won't do what you do and that'll be great because if we become the same, eventually we're not going to want to F you. Hallelujah. You know what I mean? We'll do that. We'll F each other if we want that.
1:07:16🔗
Adam
I'll hold you from behind. First I'll blow a fag, then I'm going to come in and do it. And nicotine. I'm talking about you guys.
1:07:28🔗
Adam
Yes. All right. From the Living End after this. Hey everybody, it's Loveline! I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. The Living End is here tonight. We're gonna hear another song off Modern Artillery. I love that, hello.
1:08:36🔗
Adam
Okay, this is not a great example. You're not talking. Okay, now again, I say something funny. I say something funny. That's right, a little less nostril noise, but a knowing, knowing and laughing. And I see something interesting. What would that look be like? And now I say something provocative. I say some provocative. What would that look like? Now what about something that starts off is, hey, I'm not sure where this guy's going, but that has a great payday. So that would be like, huh, what? Yes, right.
1:09:23🔗
Caller
This is a great way to cover up Dr. Drew going off to the bathroom. It's really well done. He's not even in the room. What's he doing in the bathroom?
1:09:32🔗
Adam
All right, so again, Drew, now I say something controversial. No, I don't know. That didn't seem to be the right look. Controversy, show me controversy. Drew, you holding your breath is not controversial. Yeah, okay, that's good. That's good, yeah. But now, it's gave you some food for thought. Really, I've opened some new thought processes for you. Yeah, okay, good. That's good. All right, let's try that. Let's try that on this call. You ready? Good, good with the nod. See, that was a trick, because he could have said yes or Roger, or something like that.
1:10:21🔗
Caller
Yes, I'm so glad to talk to y'all, because it's the only doctor I've ever talked to who ever knew anything about.
1:10:29🔗
Caller
Okay, about two and a half years ago, I had a pretty rough time in my life, and I was taking Zoloft.
1:10:36🔗
Adam
All right, let me explain. Drew has one eyebrow slightly higher than the other. But he's listening. He's scratching his chin.
1:10:44🔗
Caller
Okay, I took Zoloft for a period of about five months, and I really didn't like the way that it was making me feel, so I stopped. And I've never had any problem with like arousal and things before. But now two and a half years later, I've been in this relationship for a year. And during the entire time of this, and I'm talking like we have tried everything, I have plenty of desire and no sexual arousal.
1:11:11🔗
Adam
Okay, hold on. Drew just did that thing where he whipped his glasses off and now he's nibbling on one of the arm ends. That means he's thinking, yeah. Do that one, Drew, nibble, nibble. Yeah, fold the other arm in when you nibble. Both of them, you idiot. Just fold the, hold on, God damn it. Yeah, that's it, that's it. Yeah, that's it, that's it. That means he's thinking.
1:12:01🔗
Drew
Yeah, Tri-Nurinol and the Triphasic pills usually actually help sexual desire, but some women it shuts them down.
1:12:09🔗
Drew
Which is, by no arousal, you mean dryness? And this is interesting. This is a job for Viagra now, because that's what we were just talking about, how Viagra will cause arousal.
1:12:26🔗
Drew
If your doctor is inclined, yeah, in fact, it has been shown now that Viagra will do nothing for your arousal, but excuse me, for your desire, but can give you arousal. That's exactly what I mean. But more importantly, more importantly, it sounds familiar, you should be on a different birth control pill. Did you ever, now a couple of the questions, do you ever do much of ecstasy?
1:12:59🔗
Adam
And you're using your mouth, right? You're not doing it vaginally? You get, you get cotton, they call it cotton coos.
1:13:38🔗
Adam
That's awesome. And depending on the chick, either want to go before or after, but it's really dependent because it can really, it's quite, it varies.
1:13:51🔗
Drew
So predominantly, and I imagine Marie is not on the antidepressant medicine right now, and it doesn't sound like she's depressed. So really the culprit very much sounds like a biological event and the highest probability of the culprit would be the birth control pill. All right.
1:14:04🔗
Adam
I'll tell you, that would be great on the internet, that vaginal bong load, if they could work that out. You know what I'm saying, Drew?
1:14:24🔗
Adam
And then it gets to munchies. And that's when it gets good. Going through a whole box of Triscuits and Slim Jims would be awesome.
1:15:24🔗
Adam
Well, it's been recorded in the studio. It's called Short Notice. That is The Living End. I like that song.
1:18:26🔗
Adam
So yeah, I'm back, you know, I'm an old guy. I like those old pretenders and Elvis Costello.
1:18:41🔗
Adam
Oh, man. Yeah. You guys gotta get, look sharp and I'm the man and all that good old, that good stuff. All right. Let's get back to the phones and speak to Rain.
1:18:56🔗
Adam
Rain, I spoke to, she's on hold for 118 minutes. I spoke to her about 111 minutes ago and then I forgot about her. Rain?
1:19:16🔗
Caller
Yeah, good memory. I listen very carefully because she might know that you are on Super Millionaire but she doesn't know the question and the answer.
1:20:05🔗
Caller
Well, I mean, I'm black, but I talk like a white girl. I listen to different music. You know, most people are listening, you know, hip hop. I'm listening to Linkin Park and AFI and stuff like that.
1:20:34🔗
Adam
Oh, all right. So is that, it's an interesting thing because amongst the black population, if you don't act quote black, are you looking as like a sellout? Uncle Tom?
1:20:59🔗
Adam
I'm not racist, but blacks mature much faster. It's not a bad thing. Third grade black is like a 26 year old in white.
1:21:07🔗
Adam
Yeah, and like 19 in Mexican. Asian, it's hard to tell. I gotta work that out. I gotta grab my chart. I got a laminate, I keep my wallet. Work out, but no, there's like, there's 10 year old black boys who'd kick your ass and get you pregnant. And the same move, by the way.
1:21:24🔗
Caller
I just wanted to know quickly in a number, how do you write Aussies on that? Yeah, a 13 year old black person is like a 26 year old.
1:21:37🔗
Adam
Oh, I see. I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, a 13 year old black person is like a- Okay, here's the thing. The whiter you are, the slower, the further away, like the further you away are from that age. No, the younger. Yeah, here's what I'm saying.
1:21:52🔗
Adam
Yeah, you show me a 15 year old white kid and a 15 year old black kid and a 15 year old Australia kid. The white kid's gonna be the youngest. You know what I mean?
1:22:04🔗
Drew
One of the theories, by the way, is that puberty is brought on early because of stress.
1:22:11🔗
Drew
Like Romanian orphans and things, when they came over here, they started having puberty at 10 and 11.
1:22:21🔗
Adam
So anyway, you're getting your ass kicked at the black school and your parents pulled you out. And did the homeschooling.
1:22:35🔗
Caller
Okay, let me run down the problems. I listen a lot. Sorry. Yes, I was molested. Yes, my father is gone.
1:23:02🔗
Caller
It's a weird thing because like, my mom's like metaphysical and everything, and like, we have these meetings here, and like, it was literally two rooms away.
1:23:09🔗
Adam
All right, so Rain, let me explain what, sorry, by the way, but here's the deal. You're very smart.
1:23:16🔗
Adam
You just have very screwed up parents and you grew up in a screwed up environment. Oh, yeah. Now, here's the problem. Unfortunately, smart doesn't make you sane or happy or rich, as I learned for the first 30 years of my life. It really doesn't do that much for you other than realize you should be further along than what you are. But it does kind of give you the ability to find help and seek help. And Rain, that's what you need to do. So it's like, that's a weird thing. I want to talk about this for a second. Smart doesn't equate, doesn't equal happy.
1:24:11🔗
Drew
But the point is that him being smart didn't help him from his pathology. And Rain is suffering from stuff. And she didn't even get to her question, by the way.
1:24:21🔗
Caller
Yeah, I actually had a question. Well, she's now a little, I don't know how the situation is right now. Cause I cheated on my girlfriend past week with her best friend.
1:24:53🔗
Adam
Times are so lean over there, they have to have guys tuck their junk between their legs and put wigs on.
1:24:59🔗
Adam
And go at it at like bachelor parties and stuff. That's all they got. It's tough, it's like prison.
1:25:13🔗
Caller
My cousin actually was, cause she was a virgin. I took her virginity. A 17 year old girlfriend, ex-girlfriend, whatever she is. And I had done it two times and she'd done it once. And every time she would bleed. Not like the first time or anything.
1:25:36🔗
Drew
All right, well look, here's the deal. Perhaps you ruptured a hymen. Why would it happen repeatedly? Some women's sexual arousal and certainly penetration can cause a little bleeding, particularly as your period approaches. Not uncommon.
1:25:48🔗
Adam
Rain, parents should be arrested if they could find their dad or stupid metaphysical mom with the rain and all the thing. All right, so listen, right. You're smart, but you're deeply troubled. It's not your fault. It's your environment, but you gotta seek some help. I'm gonna recommend a book. Please stop acting out.
1:26:05🔗
Drew
Healing Trauma, Daniel Siegel. Healing Trauma, and that will give you a frame of reference for what it is you need.
1:26:34🔗
Adam
Yeah, that's the point. But, it's happened to a couple friends of mine. If they find out, they'll kill you. Okay, so be very careful. Yeah, use duct tape. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
1:27:03🔗
Adam
I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, The Living End, here tonight. Guy's been putting away the beer pretty steadily, but you've maintained your composure.
1:27:26🔗
Adam
We will, yeah, I give that a good sing. I give two. No, I mean a double. Double, not a two, not a two out of 10. The band, by the way, in USA Today, three and a half out of four stars. Three and a half out of four stars.
1:27:44🔗
Adam
It is. You're talking to guys minus seven stars. Down seven, yeah. I put out a three and a half star album. I'm still minus three and a half stars. You see what I'm saying?
1:28:24🔗
Adam
And that's, by the way, that's USA Today. It's all over. It's read by stupid people all around the country.
1:29:19🔗
Drew
So, but first of all, you sound depressed. Is that just because it's late at night or are you actually depressed? Yeah. Depressed. And are you using sex as a way of trying to manage your depression?
1:29:44🔗
Drew
You're strung out. Why don't we deal with that? That's more of the issue than, the fact that you're feeling guilty about something that's quasi-normal at this point in history.
1:29:57🔗
Drew
Yeah. Work on the depression, work on the drugs. Depression's not gonna get better until you deal with the marijuana and the cocaine. Guaranteed. In fact, there's an axiom in psychiatry. You never try to treat a depression until the addiction is thoroughly treated.
1:30:12🔗
The Living End
Yeah, but isn't it hard to then give up those things because then you're like, well, what am I gonna do with my time? It's even more depressing.
1:30:21🔗
Drew
No, he has to go into treatment. 85% of people, 100% of people coming for treatment are depressed, 85% get improvement or resolution of the depression merely with treating their addiction.
1:31:00🔗
Adam
Yeah, it's always dangerous trying to talk to Americans, especially the ones that call this show. They rarely know what's going on. All right. Anyway, Liz, you're 19.
1:31:12🔗
Caller
Can I say, I love y'all so much and from listening to this wonderful show, I decided that I want to be a sex therapist.
1:31:24🔗
Drew
I recommend you just become a physician and then work in the mental health field and then if you want to focus on sexual issues, that's the way to go.
1:31:37🔗
Caller
Well, I have a best friend. We've been best friends since for about a little bit over a year. And we used to live in the same town. I'm in San Antonio, Texas. And he moved to Houston, like, fall semester.
1:31:56🔗
Caller
What's the question? And he's coming in town this weekend and he's bringing Axe. And I just want to know, is he trying to sleep with me or is he opening up somehow?
1:32:07🔗
Adam
Anytime a guy's coming into town, he wants to sleep with you. When he says, I'm coming into town, can I stay at your place? That's Axe.
1:32:16🔗
Adam
I'm bringing Axe. Anal. That's Anal. Now it's Anal. It's been upgraded to Anal. Or downgraded, depending on which person you are. Right.
1:32:30🔗
Caller
No, we dated for a week and it just wasn't our time. The most we've ever done is just kissed once.
1:32:51🔗
Adam
Yeah, I mean, he wanted to keep dating you. You're the one who didn't want to keep going, right?
1:32:54🔗
Caller
No, actually, before he moved, I told him how I felt and we decided to date and it just didn't work. We both agreed and he's-
1:33:43🔗
Adam
All right, yeah, think about that. We live in California. We got a choice between Nevada and Mexico. What can't you get done?
1:33:52🔗
Adam
Yeah, just go to Mexico, score a few hookers and some prescription drugs, and let's go to Nevada for some gambling and more prostitution and some crank phone calls. All right, I want to thank The Living End for coming in here. Always a delight.
1:34:09🔗
Adam
Modern artillery, everybody. Go get it. It is out as we speak and until, oh, Art, Art Alexakis is coming in tomorrow night from Everclear.
1:34:23🔗
Adam
Never going to happen. So until next time, this Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew is saying mahalo. I mean, if you're out clubbing, I would go out clubbing, I would blow 20 or 30 facts.
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Caller
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