1:04🔗AdamI'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Addiction Medicine Specialist. Jeff Probst is here tonight from Survivor.
1:37🔗DrewI know. You're dead serious about that. He doesn't give accolades to much of anyone, let alone somebody else on television.
1:44🔗AdamReally? I really, and I think you do a great job, Jeff, because Jeff's job is to move the show along, almost be a little bit of a disciplinarian, but not detract from it or distract from it.
1:58🔗DrewLike if you got a guy- He has to make it a TV show.
2:12🔗AdamAnd then saying, this challenge reminds me of a particular play in high school. And there I was, it was third down, and then they would have to edit all that out. But what I'm saying is, you have to be a strong presence, but the show's not about you. You're sort of the conductor, referee.
2:31🔗Jeff ProbstYou gotta have a lot of restraint.
2:34🔗AdamWell, I noticed last season, Johnny Fairplay was getting on Jeff's, he was on his last nerve, as we like to say. And there was some debate in the Jimmy Kimmel writer's office where me and a couple of the writers are huge fans of the show. Last year, last season, I should say, Johnny Fairplay told everyone his grandmother had died and gave a big sob story so that they gave him the reward challenge and then admitted he lied. Now, my buddies in the office were saying you can tell Jeff wants to kill him, but he has to bite his lip. And I said, I don't know if he knows that it's a lie yet or not. And they said, oh yeah, he does. And I said, how does he know it's a lie? And so did you know he was lying about his grandmother as soon as he said it or shortly thereafter?
3:32🔗AdamCan't say anything. You're screwed. There you go. See, I would have been, you would have been getting grandmother stuff. Oh yeah, of course.
3:38🔗Jeff ProbstRight. But no, you wouldn't have, because you know when you're out there, when he first said it, I thought, oh man, what a bummer. Right. And the guy's upset. He is human. And then the challenge ended and we walked over to call his grandmother to see what we could do. And you know, basically she answers the phone. So we go, oh, finally we got a guy that's lying. This is great. So as far as I was concerned, he's a survivor Hall of Famer at that moment.
4:02🔗AdamRight. So do you have more respect for him?
4:06🔗Jeff ProbstNo. He is a jackass in real life. That guy is just, he's just, you know.
4:12🔗AdamRight. So sociopath. As are many of the folks.
4:17🔗DrewNow I love this. This is on the island. Now I'm interested.
4:20🔗Jeff ProbstNo. And when you look at their psych profiles, we don't want the person who is reasonable, who can have it, who can think through something and come, we want the guy who's got troubles figuring out and who you know, when you find his buttons, he will light up and that, and he'll show you where they are sooner or later, if you don't find them.
4:37🔗DrewHow do you know you don't have, you have someone's going to hurt themselves or somebody else?
4:39🔗Jeff ProbstWell, we have a pretty, pretty deep medical team, you know, that looks at that. And that's what they tell us. What we do is we go through the casting process. We pick out our, you know, however many we might be interested in, 25. And then they'll come in and-
4:53🔗Jeff ProbstYeah, in really, well, when they're here, they come to LA, they get the psych tests, they get the physical tests, they go through an IQ test and they're all pretty intense. And then they sit with us day after day after day, and we sort of grill them and we go through and we're trying to find skeletons and all that stuff. When we finally figure out the 25 we may like, the doctors will come in and look at the cards and say, this guy, no, this woman, no, this one's on the fence. And then it becomes a debate about how close are they to being okay or not okay.
5:21🔗DrewHow many of those are there? The not okays, the nearly not okays. Is it always one or half the crew, half the cast?
5:27🔗Jeff ProbstNo, it's usually just a few, but usually in our 25, there are one or two or three.
5:32🔗DrewAre they productive on the show? Do they produce what you want or are they a problem?
5:45🔗Jeff ProbstYeah, they'll say the liability is too high for this person to hurt themselves if they're first off or if they're humiliated.
5:52🔗AdamWere you fooled or duped by anybody who actually made it onto the show or even just surprised?
5:59🔗Jeff ProbstWe've been fooled, I think, a lot of times by the category of the hot chick because it's so hard to find a... Who, Jerry? She was great. Jerry's another Hall of Famer. Come on.
6:14🔗Jeff ProbstGreat villain. Yeah. Well, I don't know if she's a villain in the upcoming season, but she was a villain in the original season.
6:20🔗AdamWell, how do you mean getting fooled by the hot chick category?
6:22🔗Jeff ProbstWell, because it's hard to find the 23 or 24 or 22 year old girl who has any life experience to bring to the show. Typically they don't. So we're always looking for that and that is invariably that is the person who on day four vomits and then says, oh, this is so much harder than I thought. I'm out of here. Yeah, I just, I don't have it anymore and they get voted out and in the room they're great. I can't wait to, I'm athletic, I was a track star in high school and I can be a bitch. Wait till you see how I use my sex appeal because I'm going to get naked and give massages and we buy it and they don't deliver.
6:57🔗AdamDrew gave the exact same speech to get onto this skit.
7:06🔗AdamAnd that was it in nine years, for Christ's sake.
7:08🔗Jeff ProbstI love how you guys know each other's rhythm. You knew where he was going before he had six words out.
7:14🔗AdamYeah, he's crescing over here. That's why he has to punch a goddamn mic every night when I beg him not to. But thank you for that, Jeff. Let's see, who's get, the one year, and I never, everyone's, I screw up everyone's name but the hot chicks getting naked has got to be a nice prank.
7:33🔗AdamJenna and Heidi getting naked for no parent reason on those peer pylons had to be one of the highlights of the trip for you. And just in general, the notion of people's freedom of with nude, except for Hatch, Richard Hatch, who is now a character himself. So, I mean, you're lucky he wore anything on the plane out there at this stage. And his fashion himself is sort of breakaway sarong or something.
7:59🔗DrewBy the way, he very quickly established himself to be a colossal, more of an evil person than I ever realized by withholding fire.
8:12🔗AdamWell, that's the whole thing. See, now last, I had a nice laugh with my wife about this when she was explaining how she could make fire. No problem, I was like, you can't handle watering the goddamn pots. You're going to make fire, please, making fire.
8:28🔗Jeff ProbstWe've had 112 survivors, nobody's made fire yet.
8:31🔗DrewWhy doesn't somebody, knowing that they're going to be on the show, study the hell out of it?
8:36🔗Jeff ProbstNow they do, a lot of it has to do with the type of wood.
8:41🔗DrewYeah, so they don't know what they're going to have at the disposal.
8:44🔗Jeff ProbstWe've had our local guides at each place, in certain places say nobody's going to make fire. They will not make fire out here. We can't make it.
8:53🔗AdamAnd then torrential rainstorm hits and what are you going to do? But it seems like the chip, the flint, the spark, the machete on the rock thing seems like a higher percentage angle than the rubbing the sticks together thing. But oh my God. So Hatch is naked. Hatch is naked. Yeah, last week I think he just said he could make fire just as sort of a good one.
9:15🔗Jeff ProbstRichard seems to me to be really insecure this time. He's been prancing around for three years saying, you know, I'm the best that ever played the greatest game in the world. And now I think he's out there going, I probably am not. And so it seems, you know, you would know more about this than I would. But looking at him, to me, taking his clothes off is his way of just riding, getting ahead of the pack.
9:36🔗DrewYeah, it seems like he's, but it seems like he's shooting his water right up front. I'm going to do horrible things with hold fire to get everybody as weakened as possible. I mean, people are going to be angry.
9:46🔗AdamHe's not. He's just saying that, though. I don't think he can.
9:49🔗Jeff ProbstI think he thinks he's going home soon.
9:51🔗AdamThe guy's wearing a skirt and has stretch marks, which makes him the god of fire. He's Mr. Heat Miser. He's been sucking on a daiquiri. It is it is a significant others flat in Manhattan. Yes, gay guys aren't good with fire. He's gay. Ironically, with the whole flaming thing. But, all right, this could go on forever, right?
10:14🔗Jeff ProbstI mean, Survivor, I mean, you know, I don't it could.
10:18🔗AdamWhy would it ever run out of steam? I mean, you get a new location, you get a new cast. And how does it how does it lose its momentum? I can't see it. It's just it's so compelling. And in a world of just every other shows a bad bad idea and so-called reality TV. This one has an object, whereas the other one's object is sort of public humiliation.
10:44🔗AdamPeople getting drunk and embarrassing themselves. This has a strategy. It really has everything. I really love the show and I can't see it ever going anywhere. And I'm curious, would you like to be doing it in 20 years?
10:57🔗Jeff ProbstBoy, 20 years, you know, the only drag of the show is being gone.
11:02🔗Jeff ProbstSo at a certain point, I guess if I had a family and I could bring them out there and they could travel and you were really still doing it in 20 years.
11:07🔗DrewThere's no such family, though. Kids have to go to school.
11:13🔗Jeff ProbstYeah, but I don't know. I mean, who knows? But it's fun to do now. And the reason it's fun is the reasons you just said. It's we sit in there in our creative meetings and we're designing conflict. We're designing situations to take normal people and put them in very stressful situations to see how they react. That is endlessly entertaining.
11:33🔗AdamIt's great. I I used to not not on the same level, but when we would during the man show, we'd do the the wheel of destiny and we'd sit around and think of the bad things for people to do. Never, never prouder moment than me thinking of drinking a schooner of sea monkeys. You know, I really I really and actually me peeing on a guy's wallet.
11:55🔗DrewI thought that was your number one. Because you have to do that.
11:58🔗AdamWell, the guy's wallet had a pilot's license and pictures of his nieces and nephews, which I thought was good and very, very simple and got a lot of praise for being able to urinate on stage that way back to the audience. But it was amazing. You know, I don't like talk about myself or brag about my ability to urinate. But, you know, 100 episodes of the man show. Really, the most praise ever got was, dude, how did you take a leak on stage? It's like I had to take a leak. And evidently, there's a bigger problem with this than I was aware of. Oh, yeah.
12:30🔗AdamYeah. Yeah, guys have difficulty doing it in the trough at Dodger Stadium, much less in front of a couple hundred people. So my proudest moment. But, yeah, it is exciting to sit around and those challenges are getting more elaborate and more amazing. And here's another argument I have with my wife. I keep telling her, whenever you demonstrate the challenge, you have this sort of headless person that is actually calling. I say, that's my job. That's what I want to do. This is my calling. I would like to be that guy, you know. And she always goes, no, that's that's just footage from the actual event. And I go, no, no, no, it's not. That's not footage from the event. She's sort of I sort of talked her into it. But I also talked her into that this is a gig that this guy's probably getting some kind of after scale or something like that. And I could easily be this guy.
13:20🔗Jeff ProbstYou know, I could put a red shirt on and you're the the red shirt guy.
13:23🔗AdamYeah, I'm just saying they have the guy who climbs the rope ladder and who swings across the thing and who swims and they never show his face.
13:30🔗Jeff ProbstThere's a better job. There's a better job. It's called the dream team. And we hire 16 kids that are like 18 to maybe 21, 22, 25. And all they do is practice the challenges. That's all they do.
14:04🔗Jeff ProbstYou're getting paid a little bit of money and you go out and play hard in the mud every day. And then you drink in the bar every night.
14:09🔗AdamWow. Yeah. Because you do you do watch. There's no way to figure these challenges out without actually having people compete and do that. Some things are just some things sound like, well, how are they going to tie those sticks together and get the key 20 feet away? So if it's impossible, the thing's ruined. And if they figure out a way around it, the thing is ruined. But I still want a little camera time. So I'm thinking I do want to be the test guy.
14:59🔗AdamWho really had enough and who really got their fire lit by it? I mean, who did you approach to come back?
15:06🔗Jeff ProbstOnly two people, Colleen, and she's working in production, and Elizabeth Hasselback, who's on the view. That was it. Everybody else wanted to do it and quite a few people are are very irritated that they weren't a part of it. And they take it personally, you know, there's only eighteen slots.
15:22🔗AdamWell, and also, stop me if I'm wrong, but when you're assembling the group, you can't have ten of the most dynamic characters. You need a couple passive ones and a couple passive aggressive ones, age-wise, sex-wise. You have to sort of, you need a football team that's not all going to be quarterbacks.
15:42🔗Jeff ProbstYou cast it the same way you cast a normal season.
15:45🔗Jeff ProbstYeah, exactly. And that's hard for them to get, because they all think, they think this means now they're not an all-star, which now is a whole nother psychology level of being excluded.
15:56🔗It's clear that Jeff hates all the contestants of the show.
15:59🔗DrewI didn't want to mention it anyway, it's clear.
16:01🔗AdamI like it when I watch it. He has as much disdain for them as we do for the callers of this show, Drew.
16:09🔗DrewMarginally less. He doesn't hate them, he just thinks they're less than.
16:16🔗Jeff ProbstQuiet, he heard you on that. I don't think they're less than, but it is a weird relationship.
16:23🔗DrewI'm curious what happens to people after reality TV, because I did commentary for Big Brother 1, and some of those people were destroyed by that experience. George came out here.
16:33🔗AdamWhat's he do, tag them like caribou and follow their migration?
16:37🔗DrewI thought you guys are back in touch with some of these people.
16:40🔗Jeff ProbstYeah, I think it's probably a pretty weird experience to go from relative obscurity to being on a big hit television show.
16:46🔗DrewBut they're known, but they have no talent. And so there's nothing they can really do to capitalize on, except be the guy from Survivor.
16:53🔗Jeff ProbstI don't think most people see it that way. I think they look at it and say, now everyone knows my talents, that I'm funny and that I'm charmed.
17:02🔗DrewBecause we've had several of them on this show. And here's basically how they do the show.
17:19🔗AdamJerry and I got into a little argument because I told her she had this Playboy thing going around. Well, first off, she did this crap, which always drives me nuts, which is, you know, I want to know how much money they pay you for something. And she's like, it's never about the money. For some reason, it's never about the money with the women, as if that would make them a prostitute. It's as if this makes us a prostitute because we won't do this for free. But it's never about the money. But then I always say, OK, so if they didn't pay any money, would you do it? It's like, well, no way. Of course not. As a matter of fact, they paid you half the money. You wouldn't do it. So, of course, money is a great concern. And then secondly, I said to her, don't you kind of have to strike while the iron is hot? I mean, you're coming off of the Survivor. Your name is on the tip of everyone's tongue. But nine months from now, when the next season comes out, you you may fade a little bit and that price may go down.
18:17🔗AdamI'm like, yeah, I know you're a celebrity because you're on Survivor and you did well and people know who you are. But a year from now, I'm telling you, Playboy is going to not offer you as much. And she said, well, I was doing this a long time before Survivor.
18:30🔗Jeff ProbstWell, and in Jerry's situation, she has been an actor for a long time.
18:33🔗AdamI know, but Playboy wouldn't have paid her 50 bucks before Survivor.
18:38🔗Jeff ProbstTo them, it's easier when you you guys have been in this business a long time. You you kind of understand how it works. I think when you're that person and suddenly you are on the cover of Entertainment Weekly and you're on this show and you get you're on the view. You think you have arrived. And why would it ever change? They've now seen my talents. I'll probably get a sitcom and maybe I'll do some speaking.
19:00🔗AdamIt's a good point, though, Drew. Like for you, you know, you've clawed your way up from the bottom to the middle, middle, lower bottom, middle, middle, but lower part of the middle. Lower middle.
19:11🔗DrewYeah, middle bottom is what I said. Middle bottom.
19:16🔗AdamNo, you'd be like going toward the fourth. Closer to the third. So you know what I mean? You know what it's like to be on the first one. You know what it's like to look down that 34, 35 inches and see where you used to be. You know what I mean? They don't have that. They just pow, someone threw them up on the ninth rung.
19:35🔗DrewWhen they fall, though, how does that affect them? When the reality starts to, when they don't have the talent they think they have or doesn't respond right, you know what I mean? They may have talents, but.
19:45🔗Jeff ProbstWell, what I kind of noticed, and I really don't think they're less than at all. I wouldn't do that show myself, but they're different. They're definitely a different breed that wants to do that. But what we did notice is once we had cast the All-Star season, the people that we didn't cast suddenly, I think had this attitude of, well, you know what? There's nothing left for me on Survivor now. So if there's any vindictive bones in my body, now's the time to let loose with it. And I noticed that in some people where I felt like their attitude went, really? OK, well, you know what? I'm not part of the Survivor family anymore. So and I think that's in response to feeling left out.
20:24🔗Jeff ProbstWe give it this name called the All Stars, meaning you're the best and the other people aren't, which is not really the truth, but that's how it plays out. And I'm sure it hurts your feelings. It's feeling left out.
20:56🔗AdamWell, I am serious about that test body thing, that gig where I actually test the stunts. Yeah. Kayla? You're 14? You want to date a guy, but friends say not to because he does drugs? What kind of drugs?
22:06🔗AdamHow much of that stuff do you have to discuss with your kids? Kids, why don't you come in? Your mom and I are kicking around the idea of getting into a divorce. We're not sure yet. We'll tell you when we pull the trigger. All right, head back to your rooms now.
22:20🔗DrewI was just curious why they've separated and the brother went with the dad. In any event, naturally enough, it's going to be a painful time for you, Kaelin. You're going to be looking for people to sort of fill that void left behind by dad. This 14 year old, I mean, you can certainly date anybody you want, but he may not be everything you think he is, and he really indeed may be just like your dad. In fact, we would predict that's exactly what you'd be attracted to.
22:42🔗AdamAll right. Yeah, and so here's what you should probably do.
22:47🔗AdamOnce you lie low a little bit in the dating department, tell things get sorted out on the home front. The other thing you don't want to do is get hooked up with a guy that you actually have a relationship with. She's calling from New Mexico.
23:00🔗AdamShe falls in love and then goes to Florida. Now she's got to try to get a ride like my Catholic little brother wanted me to drive to Kentucky so we could talk to some chick you met on the internet like 10 years ago. It's a disaster. This internet, by the way, is gonna destroy everything. And everyone's gonna be driving all over the place and running their phone bills up. So lay low until you get to Florida.
23:41🔗CallerYeah, she's hot. But anyway, my Germany or Florida is a-
23:46🔗AdamHold on a second. You know what I keep thinking about on that show? First off, I just think how much my beard would start scratching. Sexy, it's the next thing I think of. I would be walking around with a big white head on my forehead for like 28 days. There's no mirrors, I can't check themselves. How do they do that?
24:05🔗DrewIt's like a zit on my shoulder and pick stuff.
24:08🔗AdamWhere does anyone get a zit on that island?
24:11🔗Jeff ProbstEvery so often. Well, you know, you are out in the sun. A lot of people's skin actually clears up because you're in the sun and you're in the water.
24:18🔗AdamIt's just all the salt water in the sun. Drew, I would make a pact. I would be like, look, if you see a big zit on my back or on my forehead, you got to get it, man.
24:26🔗Jeff ProbstOh, Adam, they get to where they're in the Pearl Islands. They were popping, Rupert had these sores with puss in them and they would make little connect the dot maps on his bodies and the girls would pop his, they get so close and so nutty. They're popping, ooh, look at that one.
24:44🔗AdamI'll tell you, you wanna know what would be a great business charging women to pop zits on guys' backs. For a group that is normally skittish and freaks out if you leave a little number one in the toilet for them when they come home from work, they love, oh, let me get that, let me get that, why? Let me get that.
25:02🔗AdamYeah, and then they're like, it's ready to go. It's ready to go. They're like, they're a little monkey. They're primates. They're primates. Here's what I'm saying. I swear to Christ, we could charge women money if I could find a guy who just produced.
25:14🔗DrewGrooming is in them, the primate grooming.
25:17🔗AdamIt'd be like, it'd be five bucks for, no, five bucks for blackhead, 10 bucks for a nice sized zit and like 25 for car bunk. It's something that needs some lancing, you know? And then just charge women. And here's the thing about women. You just have to show it to them. You'd go, oh, come on, get out of here. Dave, pull your shirt up. They're gonna start shaking. They start going for their wallet. It'd be awesome. All right.
25:42🔗AdamLet's take a break. Jeff Probst is here tonight from Survivor. I don't even have to look at the paper to tell everyone it's Thursday nights at eight o'clock on CBS. All-Stars coming up this, well, we got started. First one, after Super Bowl. Yeah, so right in the beginning.
26:01🔗Jeff ProbstYou gotta watch. We'll take a quick break.
26:02🔗AdamWe'll be right back. Hey everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Nets, Dr. Drew... Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Jeff Probst is here tonight from Survivor. My favorite show, 8 o'clock on CBS, Thursday night, it's got the big all-star one coming up.
26:36🔗Jeff ProbstThis, well, it's this whole season.
26:40🔗DrewAnd the stuff Jeff has been saying is just titillates. It's like, I gotta watch this season.
26:44🔗Jeff ProbstYeah, there is some wacky, there's drama, there is stuff that's off the charts. I don't know if it's, I don't know what you would call it. And then there's this love affair that develops. It's actually kind of nice.
26:56🔗Jeff ProbstOh, let me see. Where's that piece of paper? Because I think I could figure out who this is from or who's having a love affair.
27:02🔗AdamFirst, a suggestion. Whenever they get the tribes together, they merge and they have to come up with a name and it's like Shimbabo and all this stuff. Couldn't one just call themselves Turbomax or something cool? You know what I mean? Something American and cool.
27:17🔗Jeff ProbstThey always take elements. They'll, you know, they will have figured out words from the environment around there and they'll want to use them.
27:23🔗AdamYeah, and I, I mean, it's like, to me, it's like the white guy with the tribal tattoo. Who you posers kidding? You're half, you're from Milwaukee, the other half are from Idaho. You pick something good that sounds like an engine additive. Boo, something's got turbo. Ooh, I'll go with something that had stealth in it.
28:01🔗AdamYeah, because Rob, Rob, and by the way, Rob's one of these Bostonian guys who, Drew, you never told me that everyone from Boston was an asshole.
28:12🔗AdamNo, he's great, but every guy from Boston has a sort of slick sense of humor and they're kind of snide and they're sharp-tongued. You never want to argue with anyone from Boston because it'll quickly devolve into something, I'll get called Brillohead, and just a matter of moments, Drew, you'll go to Four Eyes, it doesn't matter what you're arguing about.
28:34🔗AdamAnd for people, even the blue-collar guys from Boston with a zero education, still kick your ass in a quick verbal tussle.
28:45🔗Jeff ProbstTotally. Boston Rob can bring it all day.
28:47🔗AdamYeah, I know. What do they do? Just sit home and have some burlets for A-holes tape that they just listen to in their truck on the way to work?
28:54🔗Jeff ProbstWell, and there's something also about their rhythms. He said something in the first episode about nobody trusts anybody. Do you hear what I'm saying? Nobody trusts, and you're laughing.
29:10🔗AdamYeah, well, I know that, I remember Boston Robb in the first episode was talking about Amber and saying that he was in, yeah, let's see, hang on. Yeah, yeah, it's Amber and Boston Robb, are we right?
29:22🔗Jeff ProbstYeah, no, no, you're right that he said that. In fact, he said something really touching. He said, I picked her for an alliance. Well, for one reason, she's beautiful.
29:32🔗AdamYeah, yeah, it was really, there was something very sort of blue collar, yet sincere, like so sincere about, not an ounce of sort of slick, suave player.
29:54🔗Jeff ProbstAll right, Drew, come on, focus now.
29:58🔗AdamThe other thing, oh, one other quick question. You know, they advertise those buffs, right? First off, I never knew what a buff, I would have called that a bandana. Is a bandana you put on your head become a buff?
30:10🔗Jeff ProbstWell, it's a little different just the way it's made, but also, I think, just trying to make language vernacular.
30:16🔗AdamIt's almost like how bread becomes toast once it's put in the toaster, you know? Once you put this thing on your head, it's a buff. And they plug them all the time. I don't know what they're raising the money for. I don't know how much they charge. They're always like, get your official Toombaboo buff seen here, worn by, and I'm always thinking to myself, really, this is the big push? You guys are moving?
30:39🔗Jeff ProbstThey sell more buffs than they sell of any other item on any other show on CBS.
30:45🔗Jeff ProbstThe buff. That's what everybody wants. Probst, can you get me a buff?
30:49🔗AdamReally? Can't believe they moved better than those wings coffee mugs they had left over. Is that CBS? The point is, I know I must, billions of people watch a show, they hammer home those buffs. And by the way, come up with a higher dollar ticket item, like a dinette set or something. You know, the buff. Who, and I've never seen, and I know this is gonna sound horrible, and I'm sure they moved billions of them, never seen somebody with a buff on the street. So what are they doing with them?
31:19🔗Jeff ProbstProbably taking them to their, probably wearing them at home when they're watching Survivor.
31:23🔗AdamI have an idea of what they're doing with them, Jeff.
32:59🔗AdamOkay, now I got three sources of income. The guys who pay to actually have their back worked on, they pay a price. The women who actually pay to work on the back and then the videos I move.
33:11🔗AdamFrom the weird to the Asian market. So the guys, cause they're weird over there and they could really get into this. I mean, if you could beat off to someone stepping on a cockroach, you certainly could have some fun with this.
33:48🔗AdamOh yeah, Germany or Florida. This is a game we play, all bizarre news, stories emanate from either Germany or Florida. He says the story we guess.
33:57🔗CallerAll right, an 81-year-old blind man heard a bump in the night, pot around for his 45 caliber revolver he kept under his bed for protection and shot his wife. Donald Kenstorm won't be charged with the death of Mary Kenstorm, 79, because the shooting was obviously an accident, says police.
34:17🔗AdamAll right, hold on a second. I'm going to go Florida because of the caliber. He would have had a nine millimeter something if it was in Germany. 45's that.
34:27🔗AdamWell, the stuff moves around though. You never know. But you shouldn't say the guy's name. But when you paw around under your bed for a gun, that's Florida. We're going Florida, Joe.
35:15🔗DrewIf you consult the rule book, she says yes.
35:16🔗AdamOh really? All right. To everyone who says why not, I would answer with why. If you really think about it. All right. We need a buff, Ann. Write that down. Getting tired of those cheap windbreakers. Let's talk to Danielle, who's 18. Danielle?
35:36🔗CallerWhat's happening? I got kind of a bad situation here. I'm 18, and I was with a 26 year old for a year. And he ended up being abusive. And so I left him just about two, three weeks ago. And then I found out I was pregnant. And me being so young and all, and I still want to go to college and have a future and stuff.
36:07🔗AdamWell, what kind of abusive was this guy?
36:10🔗CallerIt was really, it was weird because at first it was just, he'd flip out on me and like scream at me and call me bad names when he was drunk. And then after that, it got to where he'd just flip out on me when he...
36:26🔗DrewAll the time. Where's my bourbon? Was he possibly doing other drugs besides alcohol?
36:32🔗CallerWell, he was in marijuana, but we, after, you know, the alcohol, I just said, you know, I don't want either of that in the relationship anymore. So we both stopped.
36:44🔗CallerYeah. And it was like, well, what happened is when I left, it was like over a stupid, like video game or something. He started freaking out.
36:53🔗DrewSo we got it. So you left him and what do you want to do with this pregnancy?
36:57🔗CallerWell, I was going to have an abortion. And my question is, is there a chance that I won't be able to have kids again?
37:04🔗DrewYou know, there's always a chance with abortions, obviously, it's a surgical procedure, but it's very, very unlikely, very remote, that it would affect significantly your fertility. Though with each abortion, there is obviously added risk.
37:16🔗AdamYeah, but it's not just sort of a punitive damage done by God, you know, not actual finished physical stuff, just God punishing you.
37:49🔗CallerHe's the one, well, he was upset, but he was very supportive.
37:55🔗DrewHer thing is she's worried about affecting her fertility with the procedure. No, really unlikely.
37:59🔗AdamNo, but Drew, give her the speech about keeping in mind there's emotional repercussions.
38:04🔗DrewYeah, that is an important point that women are not taught or educated about the fact that even early in the pregnancy, when you go through an abortion, not only is there a sense of guilt and loss, but there's a biological reaction that is profound in most women, where they feel that going from a pregnant state to a non-pregnant state is a huge letdown. And even in my estimation, women describe a feeling of having lost something. Even though they may have had no philosophical problems with abortion, all of a sudden they felt like they were attached to something which is gone and be prepared for that. The women are not taught about that. And there also is, remember, don't forget adoption. It's always out there as an option. It's a very heroic way to proceed.
38:42🔗AdamAll right, Danielle. All right, listen, no more of these guys.
39:00🔗Jeff ProbstHey, what about that, the morning after pill?
39:02🔗DrewYeah, it's the greatest thing. Is it? Well, not RU-486, that's an abortion pill, but emergency contraception prevents ovulation. It's not an abortion pill. It's worked exactly the same way that birth control normally works. You just take it after sex as opposed to before. There's all this ridiculous confusion about it. It's about to go over the counter. There's been something like 50 million uses of it worldwide. Never been a single adverse effect. None.
39:27🔗DrewYou actually have up to five days, but it's best in the first, you have about 90% coverage in the first 24 hours, about 80 in the second 24, and about 70 overall over three days.
39:39🔗AdamDrew, and I'd like you to just start saying three days, because you normally say 72 hours, and I know we have a fair amount of listeners who think there's 100 hours in a day.
39:47🔗DrewSo it's three days, three days coverage. And it's because the sperm waits for an egg to be released for three days. And if you give enough hormone to prevent the egg from coming out, that whole risk goes away. And it's great. Yeah, it's great. It would do away with most of the unwanted pregnancies and lots of the abortions in this country. And when, because there's a theoretical possibility that it may affect implantation of a fertilized egg. There's also a theoretical possibility of certain anti-inflammatories doing that. And the birth control pill taken before ovulation. Theoretical. Is that why we should eliminate this product? No, it's ridiculous.
40:22🔗AdamNitro Max would be another good name for it.
40:25🔗DrewI'm not like, it has to have an exotic flavor to it. That's too drag strip. That's too drag strip.
40:30🔗AdamNow here's what I'd like to do as a country. You know, like we're so enamored with other cultures when all we do is bomb them and beat them up, you know? I mean, I think it's a form of compensation. It's like beat the crap out of the Indians, then name all the SUVs after them in the mountain ranges. You know, it's definitely compensation. Let's just start, you know, throw all the Mexicans out of California and then every street is just a pulpit in Los Feliz. You know, just name everything after them. It's like, we'll kick your ass, we'll give you some diseased blankets, we'll toss you into a reservation, we'll starve you out and kill you. But no worry, we'll name a mountain range after you. I just say, like, as we do it, like with the panda bears, you know, they're always Ling Ling or Ching Chang or Ding Dang or Wing Wang or something. We're renting them, for Christ's sake. Let's start naming them Stu and Bill, Steve Ho. You know what I mean? Big Ted. Who are we kidding? Who are we kidding? And by the way, if we're gonna spend all this money leasing animals and stuff, we should be able to name them what we want to name them. And believe me, other countries aren't naming their crap after us. You know what I'm saying? There's no Jeff. There's no Jeff Panda Bear over in China. I'll tell you that right now. You see what I'm saying?
41:37🔗AdamAnd these tribes that go with good old American names. That's the new thing. Straight, just in cool names too. And ones I can remember because I can't remember the Shambhala, Wama, Ding, Dang tribe and all that.
41:50🔗AdamWell, oh, there's more. I'm just, I'm getting warmed up now. Jeff Probst is here from Survivor, Thursday Nights. I shouldn't, we shouldn't even plug this show. It gets enough. It's enough.
42:01🔗AdamYeah. Watch this, so you can reverse psychology. Don't what Jeff has begged me to ask you not to watch Survivor this week because it's too compelling. And many of you wouldn't be able to handle it emotionally. All right, we gotta take a break. We'll be right back.
42:15🔗Jeff ProbstLove Lines with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.
42:37🔗AdamThere, buddy, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Jeff Probst is here tonight from Survivor, obviously. Thursday nights, CBS, eight o'clock at the All-Star Series. And let me just say this. First five callers to get on the air tonight are gonna get a new uncut special DVD starring Rob Schneider of The Animal, which-
43:10🔗AdamAnd if, like I said, I think technically you can stay on hold until you turn 18 or put your mom on. Drew has decided that if you put your mom on, it's cool.
43:31🔗AdamLet's talk to Nicole, who's 18. Nicole? What's happening?
43:36🔗I know most girls can't have orgasms when they're having sex, but I can feel myself start to climax, but I start shaking and I start like crying and I just want to know what's going on.
43:49🔗DrewAre you able to have orgasm by any other way?
44:33🔗AdamNicole? All right, is there anything we need to know about where you were sexually abused. Or physically abused.
44:43🔗DrewAll right, so it sounds like when you're sort of reaching those dead points of intimacy or sort of losing yourself in those moments with somebody you feel close to, it becomes a little overwhelming. Mm-hmm. So maybe take it slower, take doses of it you can tolerate better, maybe not during intercourse.
45:12🔗What I mean by that is like when I'm having sex, I can feel myself starting to tense up and it's pleasurable, but then when it just gets too much, I just like break down.
45:23🔗AdamAll right, you're all up in your head. You gotta take a chill pill. How about some wine coolers or something?
45:30🔗I have a quick, another question. My friend, she always gets, her mouth gets really dry every time she has sex and I just wanna know if she can do anything for that.
45:39🔗DrewChill pill. Stop breathing through her mouth. Breathe through her nose.
45:43🔗AdamYeah, get one of those Breathe Right strips. They're making a new one for BJs now. That's an item. That's my money maker right there.
45:56🔗AdamYeah, it's like, first off, it'd be a commercial. You would not be fast forwarding and Tivo-ing through that commercial. That'd be one you'd be watching. Tired of this? Yeah, yeah, I would really. This could be good because oral sex, obviously you gotta use the nasal passage and you gotta keep that movement, right? And they have like an industrial one for prostitutes. You know what I mean?
46:27🔗AdamWe could get like the Hilton Sisters or something to possibly endorse it. There's many celebrities we could, directions we could go with this. All right, Nicole's up in her head. She's all freaked out. She's like going in with, she has conditions and she's like, I'm getting this way. You gotta relax a little bit.
46:42🔗Jeff ProbstEspecially when that orgasm or whatever she was calling it is starting to get there. That's when you really wanna just back it off a little.
46:47🔗DrewYeah, I think she's overwhelmed. It's just too painful to be opening vulnerable.
46:51🔗Jeff ProbstRight. All right, we'll take a quick break.
46:52🔗AdamJeff Probst here tonight from Survivor and we'll be right back.
46:56🔗Jeff ProbstHere it is, bottom line, it sucks being single today.
46:59🔗Jeff ProbstTons of lame people and no decent prospects.
48:07🔗AdamWell, not only that, yeah, I was scared. I was drunk. I had been bloated on chicken wings. I jumped up, you know, as soon as I... I pop up, right at the beginning. I said the dance. I think the beginning seemed longer than it ever had been because it was the All-Star one. And we've got 18. It was the first one, and they have 18 people. I'm used to three or four people, and it was really, it was 25, 30 minutes, as I recall.
48:32🔗DrewThis was after the Super Bowl. You were still thinking about Janet Jackson.
48:35🔗AdamI was up, I was doing the dance, and then after like minute 26, I was clutching my side, and my wife was yelling, you gotta keep going, you gotta make it through the dance. When is this goddamn show gonna end? When is the, like, forget about the opening, well, it's gotta be over by now. Yeah, but they just had, everybody, all 18 contestants and what they've been doing, and really, you gotta factor that in. There are a lot of people who do the dance, and they don't need a 26-minute opening.
49:07🔗Jeff ProbstIs that ever a good foreplay, that dance?
49:36🔗CallerAll right, well, I've been married for about three years, I got one child, and I met this girl at my work, she just started working with us, and she's also married, and she has a child also. Just recently, we just started getting attracted to each other, and we started messing around around the office, things like that.
49:55🔗DrewYeah, stop, don't even put yourself in situations where it could go further, God forbid it already has. But you are, listen, you're damaging the health and well-being of your wife, your child, her husband, and her child. Does that feel good? Is that something you want to do?
50:25🔗CallerOh, that's what we do. We just work alone and, you know, she's like 20, 20, 20 years old and man, it's, you know, it's exciting, it's, you know. You get the blood pumping. She's 20. Yeah.
50:40🔗AdamWait, are you having sex with her in the office?
50:53🔗DrewSomething like that. Tell us. Yes. Let me think.
50:57🔗AdamLet's flip over all the cards. Arlene Francis has a guess. Look, Ed, first off, what kind of work is this that you two just sit alone, unsupervised?
51:07🔗CallerOh, man, I don't want to say over there, but we just were in the office and things like that.
51:12🔗AdamYeah, I'm picturing more of one of those trailers with the blocks.
51:24🔗CallerYeah, I think you would say just keep it on the down low.
51:28🔗DrewNo, you're damaging your child, you're damaging her child. You've relinquished the option of screwing around when you have a kid. It's it, it's over. You've now lived out your days as an F-off. Now you've got to be a dad.
52:00🔗AdamListen everybody, ultimately you're all worried about not getting caught from the hell that you're creating called a life. Don't worry, you're right smack dab in the middle of it. Believe you me, do all the cheating you want, crank out all the kids you want, get away from all the, get away from your kids, move to Florida, do whatever the hell you want. Believe me, you're taking you with you. I just love this notion that I'm getting away from something. You're your only witness. If you never get caught by anyone ever, the worst person on the planet knows what you're doing and that's you.
52:34🔗Jeff ProbstYou gotta go to bed with yourself.
52:45🔗AdamYes, Jeff is right. You have, you know, this sort of concept that, well, don't worry, I can go in and say some Hail Marys and God will forgive me or as long as my wife never finds out or my co-workers or my kid will never know is all this sort of, no one will ever know kind of thing. What do you mean no one? You know.
53:06🔗DrewYou gotta remember that they consider that a triumph. I got away with it. And not only that, when really push comes to shove, they don't care.
53:15🔗DrewAnd that's a hideous reflection of people. And they don't care. They do sleep fine at night. And that's the awful part about it. And the people that are suffering is everyone else in their life.
53:25🔗AdamYeah. Well, not only them, but what about us as a society who has to deal with these jackoffs kids? It's getting crappy dads everywhere.
53:33🔗Jeff ProbstThere's something messed up about the fact that it doesn't feel as good to be a man and say, you know what, I'm attracted to you, but I'm already married and I have a child. And that doesn't pay off. What's fun is to sneak around in the office and get a little and then go, I'm a hot guy and she's a hot girl.
53:59🔗AdamIt's like in lieu of doing 50 pushups and not having anyone find out, you'd rather just convince people around you that you did 50 pushups. This is a weird way to go through life.
54:11🔗DrewAnd then feel triumphant when you've succeeded.
54:13🔗AdamYeah, you don't get the benefits of the exercise. You've just convinced those around you that you just peeled off 50 pushups.
54:19🔗Jeff ProbstAnd the minute you start that lie, it is a slippery slope.
54:24🔗AdamYeah, and by the way, I don't know how you're gonna stop screwing around with someone you're screwing around with when you have like your IQs in the 80s and you guys are left together alone at the impound lot to-
54:36🔗DrewThat's part of the problem, but it's like drug addicts who say, I couldn't help myself. They lit up right in front of me. It's like you should never get yourself in those. You made 10 bad choices that put you in that room with the people with the crack pipe. Should never have made those choices.
54:57🔗CallerI'm doing good. This is a, I want to say, Adam, you're great. I used to record episodes of The Man Show and keep them as, you know, collection. And Drew, you're awesome too. And I wanted to buy your book eventually and read it. And Jeff, Survivor is a really good show also.
55:12🔗AdamHave you bought one of the buffs, Charles?
55:16🔗AdamPlease, please do. You're like, you're eight behind by the way.
55:20🔗DrewI think I had to start including a buff with my book.
55:24🔗CallerMy question is, is that the last couple of nights, I've heard you guys talk about kind of the older guys who have dated the younger girls. And I'm eight years sober from alcohol. And I recently started corresponding with a girl who was 18. And what happened was that I ended up moving out to her state to live with her. And she ended up ditching me in her state and taking off. And she comes from a very controlling and domineering family. And I was wondering, my question is that I tried everything I could do to be a good boyfriend to this girl and help out this girl. And I held down two different full-time jobs and supported her. And I'm wondering if, I'm sorry, I'm kind of nervous. Was I just scammed here?
56:18🔗DrewFirst of all, you showed incredibly poor judgment going to live with somebody you've never met.
56:28🔗AdamAnd a certain degree of desperation. And we can hear it in your voice.
56:32🔗DrewBut secondly, in spite of you recovering from alcoholism, and I wonder how dedicated you are to your recovery, how much of a priority recovery is in your life. Do you still go to meetings on a regular basis? Do you still contact your sponsor regularly?
56:46🔗CallerWell, when I moved out there, I actually got a home group, a meeting home group and actually got a sponsor. And the funny thing is, is all the recovery people I met out there who knew about this relationship were shaking their heads at me going, what in the hell are you doing?
57:01🔗DrewRight, and that means you weren't practicing a program of recovery, you're marching to your own drum or doing whatever. But here's the only way you can change it, is by maybe doing some codependency recovery, getting an Al-Anon meeting going. Because really this is all about your codependency and yourself coming from a disrupted, fractured, alcoholic.
57:16🔗AdamWell, here's what's going on too, is you're dealing with a troubled person, this 18 year old. The whole part where she's alluring is the exciting part of the whole thing. Once you come out there and she finds out you're a nice guy, it's game over. Yeah, there's no thrill in it for her, so that's it. You're much too nice a guy. I can hear it in your voice, nice slash needy slash desperate. You're putting the screws to her, what's wrong? What can I do for you? How can I be better?
57:56🔗DrewWhat state did you go to, Florida? Texas. Texas. No, he was on the way there.
58:01🔗AdamAll right. And now you're back and this is a water under the bridge. Chalk this up to experience.
58:08🔗DrewStart listening to direction from your peers in recovery and go to some Al-Anon meetings. Your mom must have been an alcoholic or something, right?
58:18🔗AdamAnd it's not, and here's an interesting point we gotta get into. We gotta give everyone a booster shot on this all the time. Guys always say, what's so wrong with being a nice guy? It's not a nice guy. It's a needy guy. And there's a difference between telling someone they look nice and opening a car door and closing it behind them and somebody who feels like they need some of you on them and something like you guys got thrown a Cuisinart together made into the same smoothie.
58:49🔗AdamAnd when women feel you needing something from them, especially ones that have a little difficulty with intimacy, and I'm guessing the 18-year-old who's corresponding with a guy in another state and inviting him out to a crash on her sofa has those issues. They freak and they're out. And then the nicer you are, the further out they are. But don't think of it as nice. Think of it as needy. And then you can correct it because why should you correct being a nice guy? It's like all these a-holes that go, hey, I'm the kind of person who will tell you what he feels. You know, I'm up front. I'll look in the eye and I'll speak the truth. A lot of people can't handle that.
59:25🔗AdamNo, you're an asshole. That's why people don't like, it's not that we can't handle it, it's just your colossal a-hole and we don't want to talk to you. But again, if you take whatever your foibles are.
59:36🔗DrewShe's exactly one of those people. I'm just straightforward. I was like, hey, whoa, I can't stand you already. Relax. It's too much.
59:42🔗AdamAnybody gives you the speech about the kind of person they are, even if it's that I enjoy wearing a collar but rolling up my sleeves a-hole. Like whatever the guy, you know, it sounds like some cologne should be named after them because of, you know, they give you that long list of the kind of person they are. I immediately don't like. Unless it's self-deprecating. Like I'm the kind of guy that likes to nap.
1:00:06🔗AdamYes. And unless you can hang with a guy who's gonna be napping a lot, we got nothing to talk about. Yeah, because I'll look you in the eye and tell you it's nap time. I'll get in your face and tell you when I'm overdue for a nap.
1:00:20🔗DrewLet's take another Germany or Florida.
1:01:18🔗AdamCould be a plywood cactus. Stagecoach. It's there. Now I'm singing my song. The idea is to work my evasive maneuvers into the choreography of the song. So you don't want to get herky-jerky or duck. You want to move. And if you do have to move or change direction, you got to work it in. Plus now super high points for a guy who's hitting the high note, you know, like my way or something. Again, get shot in the larynx. Doesn't crack. You know what I mean?
1:01:47🔗DrewSo taking a shot and holding the note, it's a good thing.
1:01:50🔗AdamBut here's the strategy. There's two strategies.
1:01:53🔗AdamI could either avoid every shot and pull it off seamlessly, or I could stand there and just take shots and never crack a note. Paintball, karaoke, celebrity paintball.
1:02:03🔗Jeff ProbstAnd then you have what, three judges that are judging the degree of difficulty.
1:02:12🔗AdamJust as people are shooting stuff. Back at Ted Nugent, Paula Abdul, and they all just shoot at people while they're singing. First off, it's a huge.
1:02:22🔗DrewWell, they do the shooting too, I see.
1:02:24🔗AdamYou're judging and shooting. Celebrity shooting, yeah. We've got to work this out. But here's what I always say. Everyone calls me an a-hole, my partners, when I pitch them this. But they go, I always say, who's switching that off? You know, like when you say, next up on celebrity paintball karaoke, what are you going to, I've had an ass full of this. No, you got to watch this. You got to see who wins. And then there's controversy. People are outraged. It's all over the newspapers. They're picketing. This is, this is, this is usual. And what's this show cost to produce? It's a nickel. You gang tape them. You crank them out. You do like five episodes in an afternoon. There's people, you know, how many people does American Idol get to try? You know, you get the same idiots. All they do is sign a waiver. It's done. It's paintball karaoke. We could film it at my house. You see what I'm saying?
1:03:15🔗Jeff ProbstI want to be a judge. I want to be a shooter.
1:03:39🔗AdamThere'll also be a speed round where there's pistol whipping involved, where you actually just have to charge them and everyone just physically kicks and beats them with the butt of the rifle.
1:04:05🔗AdamI always liked to name that tune where it would get down to a note. Like the guy just hold the saxophone. And the guy, the guy go, theme to Bridge Over River Quad. Yes.
1:04:31🔗CallerYeah, all right. All right, here we go. There are, I read about there are plans to put together a Christian-sponsored nudist resort, which would include everything from nude volleyball to nude water slides and probably nude church too.
1:05:14🔗AdamI heard this story about two weeks ago. But that's all right. Jeff didn't. Point is, he's right. All right, we're gonna send you out a buff.
1:05:27🔗AdamOr my T-shirt with the bullseye on it that says... I did paintball karaoke and all I got was this crappy T-shirt. Yeah.
1:05:35🔗Jeff ProbstWhat about having the, for the audience, what about having the pimple poppers just coming through instead of selling cigars that just pop a pimple?
1:05:42🔗AdamI'm telling you, that's another show we could do. It's just colossal zit popping. And then celebrity zit popping.
1:06:50🔗DrewIt keeps growing, yeah, it's an abscess.
1:06:52🔗AdamNow, how does the, oh man, a gazillion survivor questions.
1:06:58🔗DrewYour body walls it off, that's why it forms, and then it just keeps.
1:07:02🔗Jeff ProbstSo what kills it? You glance at it and then put something down there.
1:07:06🔗DrewFirst, you have to take out all the stuff because it's stuck there, it's in a cavity. And you get it out, then you start using antibiotics. The antibiotics can't get into the cavity. That's part of the problem, so you gotta take it out.
1:07:16🔗AdamAlright, I have questions now, I have more survivor questions. You have the survivor camp. Obviously the crew and the film crew and other folks have to be in proximity of the camp. Is their camp, do they have their own camp, which is right by there? Obviously they work in shifts, like the cameras go all through the night. Is there cameras there 24 hours, by the way?
1:07:38🔗Jeff ProbstAnd the camera crew has a camp that is outside of the camp the survivors live on. That's not a production crew. We have 300 people that are somewhere else, but the small little two camera crews and the producers, and they're just off a couple hundred feet and they'll sleep, they'll sleep, and then some of the APs, our associate producers, will be out there with little digicams, so we're shooting them all the time.
1:08:02🔗AdamAnd so is there a guy who has that shift from 3 a.m. till sunrise or 12 to sunrise where many nights he's just sitting there watching nine people sleep?
1:08:18🔗Jeff ProbstNo, if we were going to miss something in the middle of the night, it would be when, you would. Because if you're all asleep...
1:08:25🔗Jeff ProbstWell, I don't know if it's that, but they'll just, you know, they may turn the cameras off and just sit there, and then suddenly somebody starts whispering, we might be a beat behind, but for the most part, we don't miss anything. I mean, we're on it pretty damn fast. And those guys, our shooters, are making editorial decisions themselves. An argument starts happening while a conversation is going on over here, and they've got to figure out who do I cover and which is going to be the story. So there's a lot of autonomy, a lot of people just working on their own, making calls.
1:08:55🔗AdamBy the way, cameramen, guys never get credit. I've worked with cameramen who, you know, shooting in New Orleans on Bourbon Street. They got a 60-pound camera on their shoulder and they're just running after you, filming. People are pissing them. People are shoving them. You know, I mean, it's a real sort of lumberjack kind of job that people don't really, if you're doing a good job, they don't even know there's a camera there. I mean, when you're at home, watching, these are studs.
1:09:21🔗Jeff ProbstThink about on Survivor, all the bug bites they get on these beaches, our cameramen have the same bug bites.
1:09:27🔗DrewDo the camera guys develop some sort of relationship with the people they're filming, or do they have to figure out a way to be sort of non-entities?
1:09:35🔗Jeff ProbstIn theory, they don't talk to them. They do not talk to them.
1:09:46🔗Jeff ProbstAnd you're seeing these people sometimes at very low points when they're giving you an interview and they're saying, we have some people this season, there's a couple of times where a couple of people say, I want out of here. This is the hardest thing I've ever done. So you see them at this low point and I think the survivors develop a relationship with a camera person, an intimacy that's kind of odd because they don't really ever speak to each other.
1:10:08🔗AdamIt'd be easy to fall in love with one of your subjects too if you're a cameraman and they're prancing around naked.
1:10:16🔗DrewWell, also, I'm surprised there's not more romantic relationship in these very intense situations. People get thrust into those situations and that's almost a natural kind of an instinct to get involved.
1:10:26🔗Jeff ProbstWell, and after the show there is.
1:10:28🔗DrewAfter the show, yeah. They get involved.
1:10:30🔗Jeff ProbstI think it's hard within the show.
1:10:33🔗Jeff ProbstWhat's at stake, yeah, and the fact that you're so in the show you can't ever stop. The one thing the survivors will tell you is the hardest part is you never stop thinking is Adam my friend or not? Is he screwing? Why is he talking to Drew? What's going on? 24-7 for 39 days. And afterwards, though, we have these little finale parties.
1:10:54🔗Jeff ProbstIt's man, it is sexual around. Just combustion.
1:10:58🔗AdamPlus, the ladies, they don't trim down there.
1:11:02🔗Jeff ProbstSo the guys are a little freaked out.
1:11:05🔗AdamYeah. I really do think there's an out like you would think everyone just be humping the bejesus out of each other. But I'm telling you, women, if they don't feel fresh, aren't into it. Oftentimes.
1:11:16🔗Jeff ProbstYeah, I think it's women because all the guys will tell you, you know what, you're not thinking about sex. But let me tell you, if there was a woman out there who wanted to give you sex or please you, you're going to be fine. Of course.
1:11:28🔗Jeff ProbstSpeaking of which, we got to take a break. What's going on?
1:11:31🔗AdamI got to, I got to, so, so what do you say? I got, I got, I got, I got. The camera crews got their own camp. They're nearish by. They're on, you know, they're 24-7. Your headquarters for all the, all the many people that work on the show is usually what distance away?
1:11:50🔗Jeff ProbstIt depends where we're at, you know, in the, in Panama, we're on our own island, just a huge island.
1:11:55🔗AdamAnd did you guys just come in there like, like, it's, is that where this stuff is?
1:12:00🔗AdamYou become like the, you know, Army Corps of Engineers, you just set up, you bivouac, you make a big community.
1:12:06🔗Jeff ProbstYes. This place was already existed. There was almost like a third world, it seemed like a drug laundering sort of resort. It hadn't been tended to in a long time, but in Africa, for instance, everybody's in tents. It's completely flat, so we were miles and miles away because they would see us or hear us if we were close. But we had our own tent city where we just built 400 tents and we brought porta potties and porta showers.
1:12:30🔗AdamWhat an opportunity to travel and see the world in these great locations.
1:12:35🔗DrewHow big are the medical teams you're bringing? That's the thing I keep thinking of, just this huge, huge exposure to things.
1:12:40🔗Jeff ProbstYeah, two doctors, three paramedics, three nurses.
1:12:46🔗Jeff ProbstWell, most of our action for the doctors comes from the crew. Yeah, a lot of injuries and a lot of... In Thailand, we had these bugs that would bite you and then burrow in. And they started excavating them. And the bug is in there. And there are these, like, alien-looking creatures.
1:13:14🔗AdamOh, see, this is, I would freak. I would freak on that part.
1:13:19🔗DrewBut, see, the point is, that's easy stuff. There's horrible stuff people can get in this tropical.
1:13:25🔗Jeff ProbstWell, you know what else happens is locals discover we're there. Like in the Amazon, there was a kid who accidentally got shot in the face with a shotgun, blew his eye completely out, but he would have died. And this boat paddles up and they know there are some big group of people here. And our doctors go down and take care of him and fly him in. We get him on our helicopter and fly him into town.
1:13:50🔗AdamThat's not going to happen in Paintball Karaoke, by the way.
1:13:52🔗Jeff ProbstNo, it could. It would be great if it did.
1:13:54🔗AdamThe trainings and then they sign the waiver. All right. Jeff Probst is here from Survivor. We'll take ourselves a quick break. We'll be right back. Hello. 1-LO- There, buddy, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191. Jeff Probst is here tonight from Survivor.
1:14:36🔗AdamDrew, well, we can screw with kids all we want. The point is, is you're here giving us the inside dirt, the skinning, telling us what's going on behind the scenes, and if you say-
1:15:20🔗AdamAnd crazy stuff, which is good, because it is as compelling as the show is, there's really not that much in the love affair department, in the physical confrontation department. I mean, there's some shouting matches and stuff. You would assume that guys would be kicking the ass out of people, and there might be a rape or two.
1:15:47🔗Jeff ProbstI don't know why there hasn't been a fight.
1:15:49🔗AdamYeah, I mean, they're really, you know, first off, anyone who follows movies at all knows that when people get in these stressful situations, like in Red Dawn, when the Russian paratroopers landed, even the best friends, they go up the hills, they start into that.
1:16:04🔗CallerHey, man, you're not my long-term friend.
1:16:06🔗AdamAnd they do this one. You're not the captain of the team anymore. Okay, man, and then they start fighting.
1:16:11🔗DrewBut these guys know they're going to have to watch their behavior, and they're playing a game. They want to make sure they're not eliminated for some reason.
1:16:17🔗Jeff ProbstAnd if you hit somebody, you're out.
1:16:27🔗AdamYeah, yeah, that's a technique. I didn't know the rape technicality. But so you would think, and again, this is, it's amazing that the show's incredibly compelling, really just within the parameters of the show. Like many shows are like, well, here's what we say the show's gonna be, but it turns out in a real world, we say it's about young people, it just turns into a big hump fest and everyone yelling at each other, and that becomes the show. And then the real worlds that don't have that are the boring ones. This doesn't need it. I mean, this is sort of, it's a difference between hockey and football. No fights in hockey, that's a crappy hockey game.
1:17:55🔗DrewWould he be like, Hold on one second, one second.
1:17:58🔗AdamWe got to change here. To me, it's like, now we're moving to the, we're doing this in the shower now. You know, that's me. I got to stand up. I got to hang on to a towel.
1:18:07🔗DrewWhat, Linnea? That's what you're doing now. I know you love your boyfriend very much, but this is showing an awful lot of commitment. Why don't you not do the part of the action that makes you vomit?
1:18:21🔗CallerI think it's, well, I don't really know why I do.
1:18:25🔗DrewWell, just the thought makes me want to vomit. So, you know, we can understand.
1:18:29🔗CallerWell, I also was forced to give a guy a blood job about six months ago.
1:18:33🔗DrewForced, in a rape or something? Why don't you stop this behavior altogether?
1:18:38🔗AdamNo, and Drew, it wasn't a rape. It was a beautiful, consensual, love-making act where he forced her to give her a BJ. Of course it's rape.
1:18:45🔗DrewWell, I don't know if it was a boyfriend, you know, sort of beat her down to the point where she gave in to something she didn't want to do, or was it actually... Some guy that held her at gunpoint. I mean, I don't know what the situation is.
1:18:56🔗AdamWell, here's the deal with Linnea, if that in fact is her name. There's something going on with her. Issues. I can hear her voice.
1:19:03🔗DrewI know, to me, it's just she's reenacting the trauma over and over again and having this huge reaction to it every time.
1:19:07🔗AdamYeah, but you tapped in her voice. Did you tap in her voice?
1:19:11🔗AdamNot so much in the little girl voice, but just.
1:19:13🔗DrewRecent trauma, yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
1:19:15🔗AdamBut there's something going on with her. And as unfortunate as this sounds, and it really sounds horrible, but the women that become rape victims, and not all of them, but the ones that call this show, certainly, and I'm starting to think a greater portion of victims in society that become victims as adults were victimized at a younger age. Yeah, and it's not just some way. It's usually sort of correlated to the sexual victimization that takes place as adult Linnea. So what was it like growing up?
1:20:14🔗DrewLook, well she knows that's what happened. But why don't you stop doing the blow jobs? I mean, it's not, it's not Drew's place. I know, but it's very, very powerfully unpleasant for her.
1:20:24🔗AdamYeah, how about that, Linnea? Okay, your dad sexually abused you, did you say? He raped you, when, who did this, that was at 13 or something?
1:20:38🔗DrewWhy do you put that under the category of rape as opposed to sexual abuse?
1:21:27🔗DrewShe just reenacts these traumas over and over and over again. Stop, Linnea, please get some treatment, please.
1:21:31🔗AdamCan you get treatment? Why don't you do that? Okay, listen to me. I'm a genius. You understand that, right? Mm-hmm. You people don't need to be smart. You just need to be smart enough to understand I'm a genius.
1:21:46🔗AdamExcept for about the tainted water thing, which is merely speculation.
1:21:50🔗DrewYeah, but it's gonna be right because he's gonna create a show around that.
1:21:52🔗AdamAnd then he will eventually make me right.
1:21:54🔗DrewHe was so right, he wished he had done it.
1:21:55🔗AdamRight, like something that doesn't exist but gets invented at some point, making me right. Here's the thing. You are horribly victimized by your father and whoever else. And the worst part of this crime is that you, is the legacy. You continue to be a victim.
1:22:13🔗DrewYou continue to act it out. Yeah, you continue to recreate that trauma in all of your relationships.
1:22:17🔗AdamAnd this will not be the first or last time you're victimized, raped, or forced to do something you don't wanna do sexually. This is gonna be a life for you. Your dad got you started in going down this path and it's a path you will continue to go down, unfortunately. I don't know what that is in the human mind that compels people to do that, but we've been here long enough to understand that it's almost a given that this happens, right?
1:22:51🔗AdamAnd the dad, I hope he just shoots himself over the bad rig or something, that the kind of like, I think it's a good idea to bang my daughter thing as a human being just means you need to die. I just, it just, there's not enough room. We don't have enough time to sort this out. We can't fix everything. And by the way, could you be more broken than humping your own daughter?
1:23:14🔗AdamYeah, at 13 and then I don't know, at 16. Just, you gotta go and just have some dignity and kill yourself, please. All of you.
1:23:22🔗Jeff ProbstWhere do you figure her mom is in this?
1:23:24🔗AdamHer mom was raped. Her mom was victimized.
1:23:26🔗DrewHer mom was victimized to sexual abuse in her childhood and probably also a drug addict.
1:23:30🔗AdamYeah, now see, Linnea over here, God willing, will crank out a couple of kids not getting any help and find out that the guy who she decided to start the family with is having sexually abusing her kids.
1:23:42🔗AdamThat always works this way. All right, and this is why we gotta get a little intervention. Thank God we have the government focusing on this.
1:24:33🔗AdamOh, listen, the worst Survivor episode is still better than the best episode of your second favorite show.
1:24:44🔗DrewThe only thing I don't like about Survivor... Yes. I mean, the only thing I don't like about Survivor is the S it spawned.
1:24:53🔗AdamYeah. Oh, the other bad knockoff shows.
1:24:56🔗Jeff ProbstIt did give birth to some real ugly babies.
1:24:58🔗AdamYes. It was the first one through the door in the reality TV department. And yeah, it's all been downhill since then. Although I have enjoyed a surreal life. Even though it really has no rhyme or reason, I just I'm attracted to that show. And Jerry Manthe was on Surreal Life last season.
1:25:21🔗Jeff ProbstAnd they did a good job casting at this time and they're telling good stories.
1:25:25🔗AdamYeah, it's really, it's a, it has zero object other than it's just, it's just, it's sort of like a twinkie, which is it's not good. It's what it is.
1:25:40🔗AdamIt's a twinkie, yeah. People like that. Actually, most things are starting to come that way, but yeah, that's what it is. But the Survivor, now that is, that is a, that is a pineapple upside down cake.
1:26:42🔗DrewFor guys that really like doing it and stuff, there are some guys that get a oral gratification out of it, too. They just, they like that whole, the whole quality of the relationship in that mode.
1:26:53🔗AdamThere's some guys are, they're sort of like, I don't know, you know, like certain dogs dig? Certain guys dig, like the burrowers, you know? I've never been one of these guys, but I've hung out with a few guys. I like to get in there. That's the two-hand oral sex, where it's like you got the tongue, you got the hands going. It becomes a, you know, a gynecological. Yeah, it's sort of, imagine the exam they give you at like a Mexican airport when they pull you aside, like they want to make sure. And by the way, I always think of keistering stuff when I'm thinking about Survivor. I think I would have keistered some flint. I would have keistered like some fruit roll-ups. I would have brought some, I would have got some stuff in there, you know, through the anal.
1:27:33🔗Jeff ProbstIt's the only place we really don't check.
1:27:44🔗AdamLike, listen everybody, good news and bad news. I have 11 mini Snickers bars. Okay, wait, stop celebrating. Now the bad news. I did not bring them. I did, well, yeah, no. Well, when you say fanny pack, fanny pack, now that was interesting. Both words are involved. That's right. Warmer, warmer your own fire, but not quite. Yeah, yeah. And I bet at a certain point there would still be passed around. But I did, I absolutely, I did think about, I thought about you got to keister some flint. That's what I was saying. Gotta get some fire going.
1:28:23🔗DrewYeah, that's what I was thinking too. I asked my wife that why someone didn't do that.
1:28:28🔗DrewOr even, you know, there are other orifices. Ladies have extra orifices and things. You can put some stuff in there. Mm-hmm.
1:28:34🔗AdamYeah, no, I would. I'd do one of those long lighters that you use to do the fireplace. And these extendo ones. I have something I'm enamored with those. It's like, look, the flame comes out five inches from where your fingers. Wow. Look at that, everybody.
1:28:49🔗AdamI could start a fire from five inches away. Yes, you could. Yeah, that's the one I would keister. That and, or even just a magnifying glass.
1:29:15🔗CallerHey, how's it going? I have kind of like two questions that go with the same problem. I'm an actor, well, a struggling actor, I guess, is an cliche in California, but my career is starting to take flight and I'm not having a lot of time to spend with my girlfriend anymore. I'm on set between five to six days a week, working 17 hour days, so she doesn't see me a lot.
1:29:46🔗AdamFirst of all, that's a pretty demanding schedule for gay porn.
1:29:52🔗DrewIf you're not doing a television series, you're doing a movie or something, it's gonna end in a few weeks.
1:30:07🔗AdamAll right, so you're in 17 hour days on the set, and what are you?
1:30:12🔗DrewYeah, but 12 hour of those are sitting on, speaking of Keister. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why can't she come visit you there?
1:30:18🔗AdamSo, and what are you, like a background beach guy, number nine, or which one are you?
1:30:23🔗CallerPretty much, yeah. I'm a high school student, and I also, I'm on the soccer team. Right.
1:30:27🔗AdamThat's a, that's a Kush gig, by the way.
1:30:30🔗DrewWhy don't you have her visit you on the set?
1:30:32🔗CallerOr does he want to? I've had her come to set before on certain sets where they have like the live studio audience, but most of the time, it's a closed set, so she's not allowed.
1:30:48🔗AdamNo, they just have the, they have the, We have like a holding tank, and then they, you know, they put the bagels on it. It's called Kraft Service. It's a folding, your place is by the peanut M&Ms.
1:31:01🔗Jeff ProbstWell, it sounds like the guy that's, this is a good out. I mean, now I've made it, you know, I've got other options out there. I'm hanging out on it.
1:31:07🔗DrewThat's kind of what I was thinking he was up to. He's just, he's done with the relationship.
1:31:11🔗AdamI just kind of got the feeling he wanted to talk and brag about the fact that he's doing it the way they do it in the OC. Yeah.
1:31:18🔗DrewI think, I think he's concerned. I think he's more done than he realized with this relationship. And if he can't find a way to carve out a little time to spend with her, it sort of shows how uncommitted you are in the relationship. Your girlfriend's sensing that and she's right. You know, it's, you got to put a little priority. You got to choose your priorities and you've made your choice. And that's that. This relationship may not survive it. That's fine. You're 21. That's all right.
1:31:38🔗AdamYeah. You move on. Beth? You're 21? You, your boyfriend just got out of the psych ward?
1:31:47🔗CallerWell, he's not really my boyfriend. I met him just a few days ago and like an idiot, I brought him home and we started talking and he told me that he got out of the psych ward and he was in there for trying to commit suicide.
1:32:23🔗Jeff ProbstBut you're worried that because he just tried to commit suicide, he's going to be upset again?
1:32:27🔗CallerYeah. I mean, he's 21. He's, he doesn't have a job.
1:32:36🔗DrewHe may or may not be upset. He may or may not get depressed again when you tell him this. Yeah. If he starts threatening suicide, take it very seriously, call appropriate authorities, contact the team that's treating him. It's not, you can't be responsible for his well-being.
1:32:48🔗AdamWe can use my line, Drew, which is, it's not you, it's me, I don't like you.
1:33:31🔗AdamI kept wanting to go and talk to you. Jeff said no.
1:33:34🔗DrewIt's gonna be one of the first slides you'll get a DVD tomorrow.
1:33:36🔗CallerI love listening to you guys, and I'm just sitting here listening, so.
1:33:39🔗AdamWell, thanks. Yeah, it's like a radio that you push up against your face for two and a half hours. All right, we'll take a quick break. We'll be right back.
1:34:19🔗AdamWell, that's the show everybody. Where does the time go? All these weeks looking forward to Jeff coming into the studio and it's pow! Pow, it's a blink of an eye, gone. Jeff, a delight.
1:34:33🔗AdamHad a great time. Blast in here. You can, you live in town, right? Come back anytime you like.
1:34:40🔗Jeff ProbstRight on, I will take you up on that.
1:34:42🔗AdamSurvivor, Sunday, I'm sorry, Thursday nights. Thursday nights at eight o'clock on CBS, my favorite show. And look out for big number three and big number six.
1:35:06🔗AdamThat's great. And everyone, I'll do my dance.
1:35:10🔗DrewI gotta come to your house, Thursday night.
1:35:11🔗AdamAll right, so until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.
1:35:20🔗Jeff ProbstThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Annie Gold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.