Monday, December 10, 2001

1:01🔗 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew. Loveline Coast to Coast.

1:13🔗 Voiceover Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. It's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew, board-certified physician, and addiction medicine specialist. And we are very pleased and surprised to bring to the show tonight Robert Downey Jr. and of course Anthony Kiedis from the Red Hot Chili Peppers, all to promote a very worthy cause. It's a benefit, a three-day benefit for the Hollywood Sunset Free Clinic, which is going on this coming weekend.

1:46🔗 Drew 13th, 14th, 15th. Unbelievable.

1:48🔗 Adam Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Yeah, you got to wonder if they have this at the Idaho Free Clinic. The Boise Free Clinic? Yes, some local radio and like a plate spinner out there raising money. But this is a very worthy cause. I went last year one night. I didn't perform or do anything like that, but I did get some free booze and rub some elbows. And it's quite an event. And there was what? How much was raised last year, Drew? Do you got that?

2:19🔗 Figures I have.

2:19🔗 Drew Five hundred thousand dollars.

2:20🔗 Half a million dollars right in front of me.

2:22🔗 Adam Yeah. Really? And have you now, now, Robert?

2:26🔗 Guest That's a lot of potatoes.

2:28🔗 Adam You haven't utilized the free clinic.

2:30🔗 Guest Have you out here? No. I was more East Coast at the time that I needed the free clinic desperately.

2:36🔗 Drew Adam strangely has gone to free clinics.

2:38🔗 Adam Yes.

2:39🔗 Drew We have not discussed this in quite some time. Is this the one you went to?

2:42🔗 Adam Well, I don't know. I went to the Nazi lesbian clinic in Santa Monica, but it may have been under the same umbrella. I'm not sure.

2:49🔗 Drew I don't think so.

2:50🔗 Adam Well, I had a little yeast on the Peckeroo, as I like to say. One of the few guys I know was able to contract yeast on his penis. He had a little yeasty on the Peckeroo. It was a humiliating experience, but it was free and my penis is still with me.

3:05🔗 I have rocked the clinic and I owe my penile health to that early visit to a clinic, but that was a different clinic also. That was a West Hollywood clinic. My high school years, something was going on.

3:17🔗 Drew Most adolescent adults now use Planned Parenthood and free clinics as their health care. They really see it as something that's there to serve them and indeed they are more geared up to handle young people than the average doctor's offices where things are very sort of threatening and it's where their parents might find out about it.

3:31🔗 Gear up the clinics because if you think about it, we live in a pretty rich country and not everyone has the access to getting the health care that according to Dana Hollister is a right for all humans who live in this country.

3:44🔗 Adam Well, and even speaking of money, it probably saves you money as a society to get people taken care of early on at a lesser price and it would be down the road to take care of more advanced things. I mean, it's a good bang for your buck, isn't it?

4:00🔗 Drew You would think so, but you can function like an HMO and just make sure people kind of pass along.

4:04🔗 Adam Oh, listen, I don't want to cure anybody, I just want to get them in and out. Just patch them up.

4:09🔗 Guest Stabilize and release.

4:10🔗 Adam That's right. That's right. Send them on the road again.

4:13🔗 Drew But the line up, the line up is now public knowledge?

4:16🔗 Caller The line up for this show?

4:18🔗 Drew Yeah.

4:18🔗 Caller No one has any idea what the line up is. All right. Well, I'm kidding. It's going to be some plate spinners.

4:23🔗 Drew And a local radio person from Boise, Idaho. Okay.

4:26🔗 Adam Right. Mike Baker, the deal maker from the Idaho Pontiac. He's going to be out there giving away bumper stickers and windbreakers. No, Elton John and Sting on Thursday night.

4:40🔗 Guest The Chili Peppers.

4:41🔗 Adam And the Jaguars who have been on this show. And Amy Mann who has been on this show on Friday night. Then Saturday night, Third Eye Blind and the Jaguars again.

4:50🔗 Caller And from what I understand, Sting is going to be doing personalized condom fittings before and after the performance.

4:56🔗 Drew These cause a prolonged erection.

4:58🔗 Adam 8-hour tantric condom fittings. And by the way, what a condom lasts. I mean, how many condoms do you think Sting would have to go through in an 8-hour sex session?

5:07🔗 Drew You know, we've never actually addressed that in condom education. If you go more than X period of time, put on a new one. I mean, tires only go 20,000 miles, right?

5:15🔗 Caller The idea is to get a metaphysical condom happening.

5:18🔗 Drew There you go.

5:18🔗 Caller Where it's not actually material of this world.

5:21🔗 Drew A virtual condom.

5:22🔗 Guest It's another prolo platform for this kind of discussion. I think many people have the reservoir of energy to go through several dozen condoms, with or without chlamydia.

5:36🔗 Adam Right. But do they have the endurance? I mean, can they hold off from the ejaculation? That's the thing.

5:45🔗 Drew That's what he's saying.

5:47🔗 Adam Well, I mean, I could move my ass for five hours, but I couldn't hold my nuts for more than five minutes.

5:52🔗 Caller You're talking about dancing. You know what?

5:54🔗 Drew Yeah. How do people buy tickets?

5:59🔗 Caller Robert, tell everyone how they can buy tickets.

6:01🔗 Guest Well, presently, our website, www.silverliningsilverlake.com. our website, www.silverliningsilverlake.com. As a matter of fact, they got so many hits today that it kind of blitzed, even though it supposedly has a, can handle a bunch. But that's the way to get through it. Unless someone tells me that there's something else that's supposed to happen. www.silverliningsilverlake.com.

6:28🔗 Drew No spaces.

6:29🔗 Adam And how much are the tickets? Are they asking for donations or how does that work? Because I imagine 30 bucks wouldn't be enough for the talent that's on it.

6:37🔗 Caller It's a fat and foreboding price tag, but I think the idea is to dig deep and get your corporate love on and maybe get some tax write-offs or whatever. Tickets ranging, that's like $100, $200, $300, $400. You can buy a table, you can get seats, you can, like you said, you can rub elbows.

6:56🔗 Adam Right. Well, I was there last year and it's an intimate environment. I mean, it's not like you're going to see Sting and Elton John at the pond. I mean, it's a very intimate environment, so you're paying to get up close and to be comfortable and have a nice seat with some high rollers.

7:12🔗 Drew Are you guys going to be there all three nights or are we just all going to be on the same night here?

7:16🔗 Guest I'll be there all three nights.

7:18🔗 Caller And I'm going to be there as often as I can. I'm also recording a record right now, so.

7:22🔗 Adam Yeah, and Drew and I are going to be doing some hosting duties on Friday night when we're there.

7:28🔗 Caller That's my night.

7:29🔗 Adam We're glad to be there.

7:30🔗 Caller We're going to share the stage.

7:32🔗 Adam Yeah, and really, I got to be honest, I'm really glad you guys came on the show and I'm surprised because somebody called me and said I should do this and I said who's going to be there and then I said they should do the show and I thought it would never ever happen. But you're men of your words and we appreciate you being here. All right, you want to take some calls?

7:52🔗 Let's go.

7:54🔗 Caller I'm excited about the calls.

7:55🔗 Drew Yeah, you kept saying, call, call.

7:56🔗 Caller I like to communicate. Is this really Coast to Coast?

7:59🔗 Drew Coast to Coast, right now. Angel's 18, she's in Texas.

8:02🔗 Caller Yeah, I have like two questions. One of them is, my boyfriend, he has always been wanting me to get with another girl. And he knows that I've been by. And well, the other night, he was always wanting to videotape it, either that or see a videotape.

8:19🔗 Adam Wow. See, this guy keeps pushing. He should start with just the threesome and then break the camera out in the middle of that. But this guy's laying it all on the table.

8:28🔗 Caller Yeah. Well, a couple of nights ago, me and my girlfriend, he knows about her. We videotaped it and then I told him about it. That's like the next morning. Because I'd called him from her house and he got all mad and everything. And she just turned around and told him and said, this is what she said you wanted, so we got it. And he still got upset about it.

8:53🔗 Caller Maybe because he wasn't there.

8:55🔗 Caller Well, see, he said he wanted to be there too.

8:58🔗 Drew This is so characteristic of what happens when you bring other people in. Your relationship suffers. You never know how the other person is going to react.

9:05🔗 Caller It is tricky.

9:06🔗 Caller See, I have a boyfriend and a girlfriend.

9:08🔗 Drew I understand. It doesn't really work to do that. It's nice on paper, but in reality, this is the kind of stuff that happens. People's feelings get hurt. And the other reality is, the way humans are set up, you never get to actually experience real connection, real intimacy if you're distracted a ton of other places.

9:25🔗 Adam Well, does he want to see the tape? I mean, I think you could make it right. Oh, he did.

9:30🔗 Caller Still upset. He kept the tape.

9:32🔗 Drew That made it right, huh? Oh, he kept the tape, Adam.

9:35🔗 Guest He's not mad, but he kept the tape.

9:36🔗 Adam He was so distracted, he only beat off eight times.

9:39🔗 Caller He sat and watched the tape, and we all went up to his...

9:42🔗 Guest Were you allowed to sit with him?

9:44🔗 Caller Huh?

9:44🔗 Guest Were you allowed to sit with him when he was watching the tape?

9:47🔗 Caller Both of us.

9:49🔗 Caller Specifically, what is on the tape?

9:52🔗 Caller Well, basically everything. We went from just kissing and feeling and touching and licking and everything.

10:00🔗 Drew Maybe we should introduce these guys to gambling right now.

10:02🔗 Adam Drew, don't cut her off in the middle of licking.

10:04🔗 Drew No.

10:05🔗 Adam It goes through the kissing and the touching, and then you jump in and put the kibosh on the whole thing.

10:10🔗 Caller Well, we also used all sorts of stuff. I mean, we got real kinky with it.

10:15🔗 Drew Angel 18.

10:16🔗 Adam All right. Well, first off, you know my theory about naming your kids Angel.

10:20🔗 Caller Not to mention being raised in Texas.

10:22🔗 Adam Right. Yeah. You got two strikes against you.

10:26🔗 Caller Or for you. I'm not sure.

10:27🔗 Adam He saw the tape and he was angered by it.

10:30🔗 Caller No, he liked the tape.

10:31🔗 Adam Right. But does he think you're cheating on him?

10:34🔗 Caller No.

10:35🔗 Adam So why is he angry?

10:37🔗 Caller Because he didn't actually get to sit down and watch us do it.

10:40🔗 Guest Which is kind of what he wanted to do. I think he was pretty specific.

10:44🔗 Caller Right.

10:45🔗 Two chicks in the same bed.

10:47🔗 Adam Do them. So are you planning on doing a second session with him?

10:53🔗 Caller We did.

10:54🔗 Adam You did a second session with him?

10:56🔗 Caller Right after the tape.

10:57🔗 Drew And then how'd that go?

10:58🔗 Let's go to the tape.

11:00🔗 Adam Right.

11:00🔗 Caller He wanted it again and we ended up pulling an all-nighter.

11:04🔗 Caller So what is the specific dilemma as your boyfriend somehow feels dis because you're also loving this girl at the same time?

11:11🔗 Drew I have a bigger question.

11:12🔗 Why did you call?

11:13🔗 Adam Well he's pissed because he wanted to add a fourth.

11:16🔗 Drew Why did you call Angel?

11:17🔗 Caller Why did I call? Because I've also got another boyfriend on this line.

11:20🔗 Drew There you go. Alright.

11:21🔗 Adam I'm ready to gamble.

11:22🔗 Drew Yeah, I am too. You ready?

11:23🔗 Adam Yeah. You guys got any money? Hold on a second.

11:25🔗 Drew I didn't bring any money with me. It's out in the car. Want to go to the car?

11:28🔗 Adam No, Drew. I don't want you to go to the car.

11:30🔗 Drew Alright.

11:31🔗 Adam Here's how gambling works on this show. We haven't done it in a while. We usually don't do it this far into a call, but she's around. We know something's up with Angel. Something in her past created her present. And we try to shine a light on that by doing some gambling only on her past. Now, we know the situation she's in today. And you can dip back as, you know, alcoholic dad or sexually abused. Or sometimes you can play the Everything's Fine card and make your money that way. But let's just say a buck all the way around. Now, you want me to start to set the table here?

12:04🔗 Caller Someone's going to have to spot me. My money's in the trunk.

12:07🔗 Adam All right, I'm going with the old-fashioned sexual abuse. Step dad. All right. All right. Anthony?

12:16🔗 Caller Go ahead, doctor.

12:22🔗 Drew Chaotic family system, like, somebody's badly addicted to the family and she got sexually abused like a neighbor in the neighborhood. Yeah.

12:31🔗 Adam Okay. So you're saying, uh, that a drug abuse, what drug?

12:35🔗 Drew I don't know.

12:35🔗 Adam All right. Well, you got to be more specific. Alcohol.

12:37🔗 Drew Alcohol.

12:38🔗 Adam Of course there's alcohol there. Opiates. All right. Robert?

12:42🔗 Guest Relatively normal, um, system.

12:46🔗 Adam Right.

12:46🔗 Guest Nuclear family. A little bit of stripping.

12:50🔗 Adam Little bit of stripping. But stripping when she was eight or, or this is mom stripping?

12:53🔗 Guest Mid-teens.

12:54🔗 Adam Her. Mid-teens stripping. Interesting. Never going to make a penny.

12:59🔗 Caller I'm going to go with the, uh, the standard, um, got kidnapped and forced to watch Russ Meyer films at the age of eight.

13:07🔗 Drew But you could, you could go with that she, that she had, some sexual addiction comes from having been exposed to excessive sort of pornographic material at like age five or eight.

13:15🔗 Caller I'm going to say she got overexposed at a young age.

13:18🔗 Drew Good.

13:18🔗 Adam Okay. So she saw Valley Beneath Ultra Vixens one too many times at a tender age. Angel?

13:25🔗 Caller Yeah.

13:25🔗 Adam Okay. Tell us about the past.

13:28🔗 Caller Past? Okay. At 15, I was sexually abused, but it wasn't by a neighbor.

13:33🔗 Adam Who did this?

13:35🔗 Caller Huh?

13:35🔗 Adam Who?

13:36🔗 Caller It was a very close friend of my mother's.

13:39🔗 Drew At 15?

13:41🔗 Caller At 15. He was 35.

13:42🔗 Drew Yeah.

13:43🔗 Adam But we want to go before that even.

13:44🔗 Drew I think some have around 8 to 10, huh?

13:46🔗 Adam Where's your dad?

13:47🔗 Caller My dad, he wasn't with us. Me and my mother and my brother.

13:51🔗 Adam So you guys are, everyone's married?

13:53🔗 Caller Yeah.

13:54🔗 Adam Hmm. And your dad, what's he do? Drive a truck?

13:59🔗 Caller No, he works for, he's basically a street inspector.

14:04🔗 Adam All right.

14:05🔗 Caller So in there lies the normalcy that Robert referred to.

14:08🔗 Adam All right. But was he an alcoholic? He abused any drugs?

14:12🔗 Drew No.

14:12🔗 Caller Ha.

14:13🔗 Adam Hmm.

14:14🔗 Caller I just want to say real quickly, if I can say to Angel, that just about everyone I've ever met has been sexually abused, so don't feel weird or...

14:23🔗 Drew It's a common problem...

14:23🔗 Caller .or different or like, you know, messed up because that everyone that I know has been somehow sexually abused. And I think the thing to do is just talk about it and realize it's not the shame that you want to...

14:35🔗 Drew That shame, yeah, shame becomes sort of an organizing property of the personality when there's been sexual abuse. And really what the abuse does is just sort of reorganize. When people talk about reorganizing one's love map or arousal maps, where it sort of solders in a circuitry of arousal that's not normal and it bypasses intimacy and everything that you would normally want from a relationship gets sort of focused on sexuality. And they can't stand the abandonment of real intimacy, so they get five relationships going all at once and all very arousing and crazy.

15:02🔗 Adam Well, who was the guy who did this?

15:05🔗 Caller It was my mother's best friend husband.

15:08🔗 Adam I see. And did you ever tell anybody? Did anybody find out?

15:12🔗 Caller I told my mother the first time it happened and she didn't believe me.

15:15🔗 Drew I see.

15:16🔗 Adam What happened more than once?

15:18🔗 Caller Yeah, it happened for a continuous four months.

15:21🔗 Adam It's got to be something else there. What's up with your mom that she's so whacked out that she wouldn't understand this or believe this? Or that she would hang out with this guy?

15:29🔗 Caller Well, she wasn't really hanging out with him. She was hanging out with...

15:32🔗 Drew But she would let her children be around this a-hole.

15:35🔗 Caller Well, what happened was that I had gotten kicked out of the house and they didn't want to put me in an orphanage so they had them take over guardianship.

15:43🔗 Adam Why did they kick you out of the house?

15:45🔗 Caller Well, my mother had previously gone under a triple bypass surgery.

15:50🔗 Drew At how old was she?

15:51🔗 Caller And she was 30 when it was done.

15:54🔗 Drew And she wasn't doing drugs or alcohol?

15:56🔗 Adam Triple bypass at 30? At 30?

15:59🔗 Caller She was 35.

16:00🔗 Adam Did she work at IHOP or something?

16:02🔗 Drew No, that's still...

16:05🔗 Adam So far, I'm getting the money, though, because I had the molestation by the stepdad, but it was a friend of the...

16:10🔗 Drew Did she smoke four packs a day? How did she get bypassed at 35?

16:14🔗 Caller Well, it was a family...

16:18🔗 Guest Hereditary?

16:19🔗 Caller Yeah.

16:20🔗 Drew Are you being monitored for that?

16:21🔗 Caller Yeah, I've been very... I've been very... They've been keeping a very close eye on me, and they say that I'm the healthy one out of the whole family.

16:27🔗 Adam Well, didn't they tell you no threesomes, though? I mean, my doctor told me that. I had a little arrhythmia, Drew, as they call it, no threesomes.

16:36🔗 Caller Well, see, what I was weirded out, but what my friends are really weirded out about is that my boyfriend, my second boyfriend, he's married, and it's kind of like what I want to be is like be married but still have somebody on the side.

16:50🔗 Drew Yeah, that's because you can't tolerate a real relationship, Angel. You were so badly abandoned and being sort of sent out to foster care. There's a lot more here than you're sort of telling us. It's not sort of a routine family system that kicks out a child at 14.

17:03🔗 Guest Well, particularly not when something's going on that's supposed to bring a family closer together like a mom having a triple bypass. And also, when you're talking about the one fellow who was upset and irrespectively because he had wanted to be on site for this occurrence, so it's a communication problem, too. I mean, do you get something from all three of these goings-on that you can't get just from one?

17:30🔗 Caller Well, the married guy, he's always there when I need to talk to somebody. I mean, he's very quiet to everybody else. He keeps what I tell him to himself, and...

17:41🔗 Adam Well, he has to. His wife's going to kick his ass otherwise. Hey, Angel, listen. There's a ton of chaos here. I mean, just a ton. And you're really heading down a bad road. You're going to get pregnant, you're going to get something, some disease.

17:56🔗 Caller It's safe sex, too.

17:57🔗 Adam Okay, but when there's like eight penises flying around the room, it's hard to keep track of them all. Right, Drew?

18:02🔗 Drew Yeah, listen. There's nothing safe but eight penises, okay?

18:05🔗 Adam Right.

18:05🔗 Drew But also, you may have post-traumatic stress disorder. You may be trying to manage feelings and affect you're not even aware of right now. This really needs some quiet time.

18:14🔗 Adam Get some therapy for the rape perpetrated by mom's best friend's husband.

18:19🔗 Drew How about that?

18:20🔗 Adam Just start there. Just stop. Just stop for like six months. Just don't do anything. Just go to the bathroom through your pants. Don't even take your pants off. Not even for number two.

18:31🔗 Caller I like the advice. Get some help for the rape. Chill. Don't try to find love in all the wrong places.

18:36🔗 Drew You guys can pick these calls if you want.

18:38🔗 Adam Right.

18:38🔗 Drew Robert is enjoying the computer.

18:40🔗 Guest I had no idea that with all these...

18:41🔗 Caller God bless.

18:42🔗 Guest Take care, darling.

18:43🔗 Adam Mike is piece 28. Mike?

18:46🔗 Guest Yeah.

18:47🔗 Adam Hey.

18:48🔗 Guest Hey, what's going on, man?

18:49🔗 Hey, Mike.

18:51🔗 Drew Mike, what's up? What's up, Mike?

18:53🔗 Guest Okay, I'm 28 and for the last ten months, I've been dating a 40-year-old. Or I guess you could say dating. We're more or less like screw buddies.

19:04🔗 Drew As far as you're concerned, how about as far as she's concerned?

19:07🔗 Guest As far as she's concerned, she is not ready for a relationship.

19:11🔗 Drew And by the way, I was going to say a 40-year-old woman pulls that off. Yeah.

19:15🔗 Adam Well, she got out of a long-term relationship.

19:17🔗 Drew Right.

19:18🔗 Adam She's not...

19:19🔗 Guest Mr. Wachel, she retires.

19:20🔗 Drew That's the way it works. She's out of a long marriage that went bad or something.

19:24🔗 Caller Does she also refer to you as a screw buddy?

19:27🔗 Drew Yeah.

19:27🔗 Caller Okay, just checking.

19:29🔗 Drew Communication. Robert mentioned that.

19:31🔗 Caller I wasn't familiar with the term. They're communicating. I'm going to add that to my arsenal. Screw buddy. Okay.

19:34🔗 Drew Friends with benefits.

19:36🔗 Adam All right. So what's the question, Mike?

19:38🔗 Guest Well, when she was in her early 20s, she was in a marriage that ended up being physically abusive.

19:46🔗 Drew Didn't we just say this? That we could predict that that was her history?

19:49🔗 Adam Yeah. All right.

19:50🔗 Guest Then she refused to get tied down for a long time.

19:54🔗 Drew Right.

19:54🔗 Guest About 10 years ago, she got married and ended up having a son from the marriage. Two years ago, her son, seven now. Two years ago, they got divorced. They went through nine months of counseling. He was not physically or mentally abusive. But I think, you know, it just...

20:12🔗 Drew You know, it's interesting. Was she to him?

20:15🔗 Guest Not that I know of.

20:17🔗 Drew Sometimes the abuser becomes the abusee or vice versa.

20:20🔗 Guest Yeah.

20:21🔗 Adam All right. But what's the question, Mike?

20:23🔗 Guest Well, we were talking the other night and she's used to sleeping in bed by herself. And I am too. But when I'm in bed with her, I sleep like a baby because I'm so comfortable and content because that's what I want.

20:37🔗 Adam Right.

20:38🔗 Drew Meaning he's had sex.

20:39🔗 Guest It's not that comfortable because she has more or less conditioned herself to being alone. Ten years ago, her mother, for some reason, like freaked out and disowned the whole family. I don't know if it was drugs or alcohol or anything like that. And I'm kind of afraid to open that can of worms with her. But I think all the bad things that have happened to her are making her scared of a relationship.

21:03🔗 Drew Yes, agreed.

21:04🔗 Guest And should, you know, I want to confront her with it, but I don't want to...

21:08🔗 Adam Why, why confront your screw buddy?

21:10🔗 Drew Yeah, you said she was a screw buddy.

21:11🔗 Adam You shouldn't even be talking to your screw buddy.

21:13🔗 Drew You mean, you mean you developed a feeling for her?

21:16🔗 Guest I have a ton of feelings for her.

21:17🔗 Drew Alright, so it's no longer a screw buddy thing. It's a relationship.

21:20🔗 Caller He sleeps like a baby with this girl.

21:21🔗 Drew It's a relationship that's developing with someone that's not open or available for a relationship, right?

21:26🔗 Exactly.

21:27🔗 Guest I mean, in my heart, we have never said we are committed to each other, but I just act like we are committed to each other.

21:34🔗 Drew As usual with these friends with benefit relationships, somebody gets feelings. Somebody gets them and then you're sort of violating the basic boundaries that you guys set up, established for yourselves in this relationship to begin with.

21:45🔗 Adam Are you getting close to the kid?

21:49🔗 Guest A little bit, yeah. I mean, how the kid even looks like me, that's what's scary.

21:54🔗 Adam Well, it's just because he's missing teeth.

21:56🔗 Guest Oh, now.

21:59🔗 Adam Well, I'm just, I'm playing a hunch.

22:01🔗 Guest That's all. I live in a flat.

22:03🔗 Adam All right. He'll get his teeth in soon. Hey, Mike, my honest opinion is you got a handful here, and she's 40 and she may never be right. And I don't know if you want to stick with this and change her, because she's going to take some work and you're going to take some work.

22:21🔗 Drew That's right. And there's a reason you're going for somebody that's not available and that's going to need some working on. But women in their 40s, sometimes character logic problems get better in the fourth and fifth decades.

22:31🔗 Adam Well, they're just waiting to die. I don't care anymore.

22:33🔗 Drew Whatever the reason. And she has been someone who's gone to treatment before. She had nine months of treatment with her ex-husband.

22:38🔗 Adam All right.

22:38🔗 Drew Maybe she wanted to get some work done.

22:40🔗 Adam Mike, why don't you just give her the bum rush of love? Why don't you just tell her you have feelings for her and put your arms around her and see what she does?

22:49🔗 Drew My suspicion is, Mike, you need a little Alan on work. My suspicion is just the way you talk about your relationship and the kind of just the sense I get from you that if you had that support of a recovery program you might be able to deal with this more effectively or at least help her institute change.

23:05🔗 Caller I couldn't agree more with all that advice. To me it's a beautiful picture.

23:08🔗 Drew Just the screw buddy part.

23:09🔗 Caller The screw buddy, the falling asleep in her arms, feeling it, you know, cozy and content. Kid looks like you.

23:14🔗 Guest But as far as that like bum rushner with love kind of thing, she already knows that.

23:19🔗 Drew That turned her off too.

23:20🔗 Adam Oh yeah.

23:21🔗 Guest Well, yes. If I do it too much it'll push her away. But what is funny is last night, her and I are members of a club in this town. It's not a sex club or not, my guess is just a plain, you know, like bar club.

23:36🔗 Adam Right.

23:36🔗 Guest And she's like a social butterfly, talking to all her buddies and I'm going around talking to all my friends. And this girl wanted to bump a cigarette off me, so I gave her a cigarette. Well, next thing you know, we start talking. And then she, anyway, she saw me talking to this other girl.

23:53🔗 Drew And she freaked.

23:54🔗 Guest She, I mean, you talk about, I mean, not...

23:57🔗 Drew Wait, wait, wait. Was she drinking at the time?

24:00🔗 Guest Yes, I know she was drinking.

24:02🔗 Drew Mike, Mike, Mike, I just smell alcoholism here.

24:06🔗 Adam Handful.

24:07🔗 Drew Alcoholism, alcoholism.

24:09🔗 Guest No, she's not an alcoholic.

24:10🔗 Drew Oh, yeah. No, that's a correct one.

24:12🔗 Adam That's a correct one.

24:13🔗 Guest This is an alcoholic. It's your screw buddy that says you're not.

24:15🔗 Guest I am married now.

24:16🔗 Guest I drink alcohol.

24:17🔗 Drew You're recovering alcoholic.

24:19🔗 Guest I have recovered from four years ago.

24:20🔗 Drew That's good. You're recovering. And that also, I could bet 50% probability you had a parent who's an alcoholic, right? And so...

24:29🔗 Guest No, but neither one of my parents were alcoholics, but that is in the family history.

24:35🔗 Drew The point being that there's likely to be some issues that are pertinent to Al-Anon. You recovered from alcohol is great, but now you've got an Al-Anon recovery. You've got to put your mind to it, all right?

24:45🔗 Adam Mike, you tell her, honey, just listen to me. You tell her, look, you're 40. You've got a seven-year-old with no daddy, and you drive an 87 Voyager with Bondo all over the passenger side door. Where are you going? You're not doing any better than this. I'm 28, and I got potential. So that's it. Tell her to crap or get off the pot. I don't know why he's pushing so hard for this. This just sounds like a huge project. He should just rebuild the Hindenburg out of the toilet paper or something.

25:15🔗 Drew If we're in this one, it'll be another one. All right.

25:17🔗 Caller Good luck, Mike.

25:19🔗 Adam We'll take a little break. Robert Downey Jr. is here, also Anthony Kiedis, and we'll be back to give you all the particulars from the... Well, Drew, you want to just point at the paper?

25:30🔗 Drew Let's see you bring it on the way out. Remember, it's this. Yeah.

25:33🔗 Adam Well, what's this goddamn thing in front of your mouth?

25:37🔗 Drew If I so much as speak, when you're in the middle of a roll to an end, you flip out. I know, but I don't have anything. You couldn't tell when I was pending to a break. Couldn't you tell? I was going to tell a joke. Can't you spell a joke? Well, then don't point.

25:46🔗 Adam Then don't point.

25:47🔗 Drew www.silverliningsilverlake.com. It's the second annual Silver Lining Silver Lake Benefit for the Hollywood Sunset Free Clinic.

25:54🔗 Adam Thank you.

25:54🔗 Caller You guys need some counseling.

25:55🔗 Drew Yeah, just point that out. No kidding.

25:57🔗 Adam We'll be back.

25:59🔗 Hello. This is your radio. Radio. Loveline will be right back. Hey, everybody.

26:04🔗 Adam This is Orion.

26:05🔗 Caller And this is Steven.

26:06🔗 We're members of Third Eye Blind.

26:07🔗 Caller You're listening to Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew on Loveline.

26:11🔗 Adam Yes, you are. Third Eye Blind, just one of the bands you're going to see this weekend. That is Thursday, Friday and Saturday at the Hollywood Sunset Free Clinic Benefit. And Robert Downey Jr and Anthony Kiedis are both here tonight.

26:26🔗 Drew Robert wanted to say something.

26:27🔗 Adam Yes.

26:27🔗 Drew But you were talking so much, you couldn't get a word in.

26:29🔗 Adam Well, Drew, hold on a second.

26:31🔗 Drew Oh, now I talk and now it's not good.

26:33🔗 Adam I'm plugging the thing.

26:35🔗 Drew All right, go.

26:35🔗 Adam I'm plugging the thing.

26:37🔗 Drew Go.

26:37🔗 Adam Well, I was going to commercial before and you're pointing at the thing frantically. Now I'm giving the website out and you've got to jump in. Which is it? What do you want me to do?

26:46🔗 Drew That's exactly what I want to ask you, is you told me to jump in, now I jumped in. Which is it?

26:50🔗 Adam You're such an idiot. I'm going to play you the tape of the show, you jackass. Please.

26:55🔗 Please.

26:57🔗 Adam You can't get me through the thing. Go ahead. No, forget it. Robert, go ahead. We'll never give the website out. Go ahead.

27:03🔗 Guest I'm just observing this interaction with...

27:06🔗 Caller It's fascinating. 30 years from now, you guys are going to be gray and bearded. And you're going to be arguing back and forth.

27:14🔗 Drew Want to gamble on it?

27:15🔗 Adam Well, let me explain the problem.

27:17🔗 Caller Walkers and Canes, you guys are going to be hitting each other.

27:20🔗 Adam We usually don't have A-list type celebrities on the show. We got the kids from some WB show you never heard of that's already off the air by the time they get on the air and Drew could care less. And he leans back and looks at his pager the entire night. But tonight, he's up in his chair. He's excited. We have celebrities in here.

27:38🔗 Drew We had three nights of sleep. We didn't work late last night.

27:40🔗 Adam Yes. And so I can't get my cadence right because I'm used to him just not talking.

27:45🔗 Drew Okay.

27:45🔗 Adam He usually broods.

27:46🔗 Drew That's why I pointed that I usually don't talk and he got mad at that.

27:50🔗 Guest I think you complement each other.

27:52🔗 Adam Not verbally though.

27:53🔗 Guest Not in the last two minutes. Right.

27:54🔗 Adam Thank you.

27:55🔗 All right.

27:56🔗 Adam Let's take some calls. Laura?

27:59🔗 Hi.

27:59🔗 Adam You're 17. What's up?

28:01🔗 Caller Hey, I listen to the show every night. You guys kick ass.

28:04🔗 Adam Thanks.

28:04🔗 Caller Adam, funny as hell.

28:06🔗 Adam Great. Thanks.

28:07🔗 Caller And Anthony, I love you. The Red Hot Chili Peppers are my favorite band. You rock my world. Thank you, Laura. All right. I have a question for Anthony and then I have a question for Adam.

28:17🔗 Adam All right.

28:18🔗 Caller All right. I want to know, how did the tube sock antics originate?

28:23🔗 Caller My version is different than Flea's version, but I can only give you my version. I was 17 years old. I had left my house. I was living with a roommate, a lady friend of his had a crush on me. I was previously engaged with my high school sweetheart. This girl kept sending me very sexually oriented cards and messages. Basically, she just wanted to get down. I wasn't having it because I was in love. My friend said, she's coming over. She's coming over to the apartment. She wants to see you. I ran into the bedroom and I got naked. I put a sock on my dick and came out to greet her, hoping that would scare her away forever. It just made her fall more deeply in love with me. And she continued to send messages and cards.

29:10🔗 Drew Is she Angel from Texas?

29:14🔗 Caller And then one day, when it came time to perform live on stage in concert with my brethren, it just seemed like the thing to do.

29:21🔗 Drew You were so accustomed to it by that point.

29:23🔗 Caller They say that when you get into show business, you reach back and pull out every little trick from your childhood and you end up turning it into some kind of schtick or... Can you attest to that?

29:35🔗 Guest I just like that you tell her how to do it. She goes, it's so sweet. I could have said, you know, anything.

29:40🔗 Caller It gets sexy.

29:42🔗 Adam That's quaint. When you're on stage jumping around, how do you keep the sock on? I mean, I know there's a certain amount of elastic holding it there, but is there any preventative stuff, some double-stick tape or something?

29:53🔗 Caller No, but if you think it's all in the balls.

29:55🔗 Adam Oh, yeah.

29:56🔗 Caller I mean, if you just put that over your dick, I mean, not everybody in town is going to keep that thing, but if you wrap it nicely around the whole scrotum, and then that's like in its entirety, the package is sufficient.

30:05🔗 Drew Adam tries to push his tube stock garter.

30:11🔗 Caller Is that an invention you made?

30:12🔗 Drew Yeah, it goes also for condoms.

30:14🔗 Adam Yeah, it's just a little alligator clip or roach clip and then a piece of elastic that goes around your back and clips to the other side and keeps it on. You could do it in a flesh color. No one would see it. True, this is not my invention. It's only for condoms. But I agree. Listen, I could stuff my balls into a trash can and hold it up. But the penis would not hold up one of those finger condoms.

30:39🔗 Guest Don't you have a question for Adam?

30:40🔗 Adam Oh yeah, Laura?

30:41🔗 Caller Yeah.

30:42🔗 Adam Go ahead.

30:42🔗 Caller Adam, could you please tell the story about the time that you got trapped in your friend's house while she was sunbathing naked?

30:48🔗 Adam No, no. We got big celebrities here.

30:51🔗 Drew Maybe tomorrow I'll remind him.

30:53🔗 Caller Anybody like to hear the story?

30:54🔗 Guest He'll tell it at the commercial.

30:55🔗 Adam Yeah, I'll tell him during the commercial.

30:57🔗 Caller How about the time that you stuffed your nuts into a trash can and held it up?

31:00🔗 Drew Yeah, I just told that one.

31:02🔗 Adam That was good. All right. Hey, Laura? Yeah. Thanks.

31:06🔗 Caller Bye, Laura.

31:07🔗 Adam I'll tell that story tomorrow. We'll talk to Debbie. It's 32. Debbie?

31:12🔗 Hello.

31:12🔗 Adam What's up?

31:13🔗 Oh, a lot.

31:15🔗 Adam You got a question?

31:16🔗 Oh, I have a lot of questions.

31:18🔗 Drew No, just listen to that voice.

31:20🔗 Caller Is this the phone sex operator?

31:21🔗 Drew Yeah, but just think. Just what do you evoke in you?

31:24🔗 Adam You got a question for us tonight?

31:26🔗 Yeah, I am a phone sex operator. I had a client that was calling me a lot. And I left my boyfriend like three weeks ago. And I am kind of in a financial bind. And he offered to have sex with me for $100. And I told him I would have to meet him. And I met him tonight and I told him that I would do a hand job for $50. And I did. And I have a really... I don't know, I am kind of feeling kind of sick to my stomach after doing it because I have never done anything like that before. I have a boyfriend who is in the military. Well, not really a boyfriend, I left him, but he is in Louisiana right now. And I am not really sure what is going to happen when he gets back the 22nd.

32:15🔗 Drew Well, you left him, so why would anything come back?

32:18🔗 I am in love with him, I mean, I...

32:20🔗 Drew Why did you leave him then?

32:22🔗 He beat me up like three weeks ago.

32:24🔗 Drew What is not to love about that?

32:26🔗 I don't know. I am used to it though, I have never been with a guy that hasn't laid his hands on me, so I guess...

32:31🔗 Drew Okay, just for reference, future reference, there are guys out there that won't.

32:36🔗 Well, I know that, but I haven't found him.

32:39🔗 Caller Certain people get addicted to the kind of rush of their boyfriends beating them up.

32:43🔗 Drew Yeah, you can conceptualize addiction, it really is a sort of a compulsion. That's what they're attracted to and that's who they are as a person that's attracted to that kind of person and that's just what love is to them.

32:55🔗 Like the bad boy type attraction, I think.

32:57🔗 Drew And it really ultimately is trying to resolve the problems of having been abused by dad when he was growing up.

33:03🔗 My dad never really hit me, but he was verbally abusive. I was always really, you know, the kind of child that whose father would holler and I'd be like in the corner, you know, covering my head. I mean, he would never physically lay his hands on me, but...

33:16🔗 Drew Ever?

33:17🔗 No.

33:18🔗 Adam Did he kick you?

33:19🔗 No.

33:20🔗 Adam I was just playing a hunch. Did the guy tip you? Who you gave the hand job to?

33:25🔗 What do you mean, tip me? He gave me $50 for a hand job.

33:28🔗 Adam No, no tip.

33:29🔗 Guest That means no.

33:30🔗 Drew Do you tip prostitutes?

33:32🔗 Adam I would say at least 15% on a hand job.

33:34🔗 Drew Okay.

33:35🔗 Guest And you know, there's some guy on like a military base in Gary, Indiana somewhere now saying that his girl who's a phone sex operator was until they broke up, just juggled some guy's dice for $50.

33:48🔗 Adam Right.

33:49🔗 Actually, I'm in Washington State, so.

33:51🔗 Adam Oh, okay.

33:52🔗 Caller I think he's in Louisiana or something.

33:54🔗 Guest Oh, he's based in Louisiana.

33:55🔗 Adam Hey, Debbie, I got a whole bunch of... first off, man, what's going wrong here, baby? I mean, what's up?

34:02🔗 I don't know. I've been getting... since I've been doing the phone sex, I've been doing it for nine months, and it seems like I've been getting more freakier in bed as...

34:10🔗 Adam But you're 32 years old. You haven't worked past some of this stuff yet?

34:15🔗 Caller Well, I went through a really bad divorce. I was married for eight years, and I went through a bad divorce. It was a two-and-a-half-year divorce, and I married money. I wasn't really in love with them, and...

34:25🔗 Adam You married money, what? You just did a handy for $50. What kind of divorce? What kind of alimony are you getting? Nothing.

34:32🔗 Caller I lost everything, to be honest with you.

34:36🔗 Adam Well, if you're going to marry a guy for money, at least bilk him.

34:40🔗 Guest No tip in the settlement?

34:42🔗 Adam I mean, didn't he have to leave you the house, or the ranchero, or whatever he was driving?

34:47🔗 Caller No, I left with the clothes on my back, pretty much.

34:50🔗 Drew But this attraction to abusive men, okay?

34:54🔗 Caller I know it's bad, and then I have a BDU fetish on top of everything else, so I am attracted to the military.

35:00🔗 Drew BDU, bondage, domination.

35:02🔗 Adam BDU or BDU?

35:02🔗 Caller BDU, battle-dressed uniform fetish.

35:05🔗 Adam Oh, they got one of those.

35:06🔗 Caller Battle-dress?

35:07🔗 Caller It's like camouflage uniform, it kind of turns me on.

35:11🔗 Caller So you like getting decked out in desert storm gear?

35:14🔗 Caller No, I like guys who wear desert storm gear.

35:18🔗 Caller I was picturing you in the gear, but...

35:20🔗 Caller Oh, okay. I'd look good in it though.

35:23🔗 Adam Was your dad in the military?

35:24🔗 Caller Um, my dad, I've never met my dad.

35:27🔗 Drew Didn't you say your dad was verbally abusive to you?

35:28🔗 Adam Oh, that's my adopted father.

35:31🔗 Drew What's that?

35:32🔗 Caller My adopted father.

35:33🔗 Drew Well, what happened to your biological father?

35:35🔗 Caller Um, actually my mother slept with my aunt's boyfriend and got pregnant with me.

35:40🔗 Drew Did you ever meet this guy?

35:41🔗 Caller I've never met my father. Never? Never.

35:44🔗 Adam Okay, so when did you run into a corporal punishment along the way? I mean, who was the guy in the uniform that got you going with this?

35:53🔗 Caller I don't know.

35:54🔗 Drew Was your mom abusive too?

35:56🔗 Caller Um, no, actually my mom, my dad was an alcoholic and so my mom was kind of like the person that would go around, you know, trying to make everything fine at home and keep peace in the family and...

36:08🔗 Drew Okay.

36:09🔗 Adam Hey Debbie, how poor can you be that you don't have money? I mean, you got to charge 50 for a hand job.

36:15🔗 Caller I'm very poor right now.

36:17🔗 Adam Do you have any kids?

36:18🔗 Caller Um, they're with my ex.

36:20🔗 Adam Oh, yeah.

36:21🔗 Caller And I'm paying him child support and the whole nine years.

36:25🔗 Adam Here, this 20 is going to be a little sticky, but don't spend them on food. Jesus Christ, this is a disaster. Do you ever just stand back and take a look?

36:34🔗 Caller Oh, actually, I think about, you know, killing myself all the time.

36:37🔗 Adam Well, no, I don't mean to stand back and kill yourself.

36:39🔗 I mean, no, I'm serious.

36:40🔗 Caller My life is totally messed up right now.

36:43🔗 Adam Well, just stop it. You're 32. You have your health. You sound intelligent.

36:48🔗 Caller I'm not stupid. I know that.

36:49🔗 Drew No, this is not about being smart or not smart, but you do need to... Let's just focus on one thing. How about learning to read your attractions and to realize that the things that you call attraction is sort of unfinished sickness from your past, and then maybe things that are super attractive to you should be avoided. Just the way like a sex addict would avoid the web as an arousal mechanism that they sort of get going with, and it really sent them down a bad path. This is a bad thing for you when you get involved in this kind of attraction. How about going around with guys that are not quite so attractive to you, and if it's boring and if it feels uncomfortable, kind of stay in with it and see where you can go, see what kind of feelings come up, and see if you can tolerate a real relationship.

37:28🔗 Adam What kind of a real nerdy guy and civvies?

37:31🔗 Guest Where you're bored is probably where the change can happen. It just seems like rather than hold on to it, you're calling in and feeling guilty about what just happened with this guy and the 50 bucks. I mean, that lasts 45 seconds. If you're still feeling bad, it's probably old stuff, honey.

37:47🔗 Adam Right.

37:47🔗 Guest All right.

37:47🔗 Adam Hey, Debbie, I rarely say this, but can you find Jesus Christ? I think he's in prison because that's where he seems to be found the most. Did you see Jesus when you were behind bars?

37:59🔗 Caller Actually, I'm not. I don't think he was in a bar.

38:01🔗 Drew Well, he was never in a solitary. I'd be in solitary.

38:03🔗 Adam Find like Buddha or Allah or who the Jews got going, Moses, somebody. Just find something, find some spirituality and just knock it off and get in some therapy and just pull yourself up and every other cliché I can throw at you. You're not stupid. You're young. Just go ahead and start having a good life.

38:23🔗 Drew But here's the thing. Here's the thing. You got to get it. Whatever that it is, that desire, that willingness to make change, go ahead and get it.

38:31🔗 Adam Right.

38:31🔗 Drew And if you don't do it, this pattern, this slope you're on ain't going to change. So it's up to you.

38:37🔗 Adam I don't know if I would even call this a slope. I think this is just a sheer freefall. This is a cliff she is sliding down. All right. Robert Downey Jr. is here. Also Anthony Kiedis. They are here to benefit the what, Drew?

38:52🔗 Caller That's Robert and I clapping by the wink.

38:54🔗 Drew The Silver Lake benefit for the Hollywood Sunset Free Clinic. Its information is at www.silverliningsilverlake.com. Tons of amazing performers in three nights this week. Elton John, Sting, Pepper's, Aguarius, Amy Mann, and we'll be there. Third Eye Blind.

39:12🔗 Adam That's right. So we'll take a little break and we'll be back. Right after this.

39:17🔗 Caller Hello. This is your radio. Loveline will be right back.

39:23🔗 Adam Hey everybody, Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Robert Downey Jr. is our guest tonight. As well as Anthony Kiedis from the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Anthony will be in here momentarily. We're here to talk about a benefit. It's going to take place Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. This weekend, for the Hollywood Sunset Free Clinic. All the information you're going to need is at www.silverliningsilverlake.com. Robert, had some stuff you want to mention as far as other people that were going to be there.

40:02🔗 Guest Yeah, well, first night we got Elton John and Sting. Night 2 is the Chili Peppers. Also, Amy Mann, Debra Falconer, Third Night, Third Eye Blind, Hugo Juarez, Daniel Lenoir, Christina Ricci is going to be hosting with me the first night. Benicio del Toro will be there on night 3. Johnny Knoxville, Night 2, Rosalyn Sanchez, Phantom Planet, Jay Hernandez, Lucy Liu, and of course, Dr. Drew and Adam Corolla as well. That will be night 2. And also, the tickets are also available through Ticketmaster. Thank you.

40:36🔗 Adam And, Drew, have you been up to this big beautiful estate that this is going to be held at the first two nights?

40:42🔗 Drew No, I have no idea.

40:43🔗 Adam Just an amazing mansion up on the hill. I think it used to be some kind of nunnery or something up there. Yeah.

40:50🔗 Guest And before that, it was, I think, some silent stars home. It's funny how they always have to kind of, you know, they kind of have to clear the air and get a bunch of nuns in there for a bunch of years.

41:02🔗 Adam Right. That's right.

41:05🔗 Caller Am I, is this thing working?

41:06🔗 Caller Hey, is this thing on?

41:08🔗 Caller I just came in with the Flash News Bulletin.

41:10🔗 Adam Yes.

41:10🔗 Caller Ticketmaster. They're selling tickets for this very concert.

41:14🔗 Guest That bore repeating, Ticketmaster.

41:16🔗 Adam And all the money is going to a very, very worthy cause.

41:21🔗 Drew So are these deductible tickets? I mean, people buy it.

41:24🔗 Caller Tax deductible? Yeah. Oh, hell yeah.

41:26🔗 Adam Yeah.

41:26🔗 Caller Oh, yeah.

41:27🔗 Adam Because it's a benefit. All right. Let's, let's talk to Jenna, who's 25. Jenna?

41:33🔗 Hi.

41:33🔗 Adam Hey. Hi.

41:35🔗 It is a pleasure talking to you tonight. Nice to talk to all four of you. Great guys. I just wanted to say, my husband loves Loveline. I never heard of it before college, before him. And I'm a big fan of Robert Downey Jr. And I think very highly of Adam and Dr. Drew.

41:55🔗 Drew Now, with that said, How about Anthony?

41:58🔗 Adam Yeah, he's not chop-liver.

41:59🔗 I'll start with Robert Downey. Robert, are you ever, ever, ever going back to Ally McBeal?

42:07🔗 Guest I'm not certain.

42:07🔗 Can you devote that?

42:08🔗 Guest Will you buy some tickets?

42:11🔗 I'll buy tickets to anything.

42:12🔗 Guest Okay.

42:13🔗 Caller You'll go back?

42:15🔗 Oh, God. That's so nice of you.

42:18🔗 Guest I'm going to, I'm going to say yes. And I'm, and I'm going to say, Ticketmaster Silver Lining, silverliningsilverline.com www.

42:25🔗 Adam Hey, Jenna, you buy one general mission ticket and Robert will go tonight after Loveline and shoot four or five new episodes. All right.

42:33🔗 You've got a deal.

42:35🔗 Adam All right.

42:35🔗 That was too easy.

42:36🔗 Adam Yeah.

42:37🔗 I don't know.

42:37🔗 Drew Is that it, Jenna?

42:39🔗 No, I wanted to ask Dr. Drew, I mean, just for fun since I got through, I would never think to call in. I love Robert Downey Jr. He's one of my favorite, favorite.

42:49🔗 Caller Robert is hot.

42:51🔗 Guest I needed that after that last call where my name wasn't mentioned when they're talking to Anthony.

42:55🔗 My husband is the greatest in the world, but Robert Downey Jr. on the list. Dr. Drew, I'm 25 and I am a fitness professional, and my husband is 27 and he is a tennis professional.

43:11🔗 Drew Tennis.

43:11🔗 Caller He's a pro.

43:12🔗 Drew Tennis.

43:13🔗 Caller Huh?

43:13🔗 Drew Tennis.

43:14🔗 Caller Tennis, yes. Racket.

43:16🔗 Tennis racket.

43:18🔗 Caller And we are, we have, I'm just blown away by our peers, some of the people that we know that are having babies.

43:28🔗 Drew Yeah.

43:28🔗 Caller And they're, we just, we just can't imagine, I mean we are, we even just bought our first house together.

43:37🔗 Drew So you're not ready to have kids yet?

43:39🔗 Caller No.

43:39🔗 Adam We're not blown away, we're just like, Jesus Christ, these fitness people are always such a pain in the ass. They should do it.

43:46🔗 Caller You guys just hang up on her?

43:47🔗 Adam Yeah, I like how I put her on hold. They should do some push-ups with their brain every once in a while.

43:52🔗 Drew It's always a disaster. I think there ought to be a law that ought to release people to have children after the age of about 30. So you're fine.

43:58🔗 Guest Just take it to her. So the gal you just had to put on hold is the one that really has high regard for me.

44:03🔗 Drew Yeah. She didn't mention anything.

44:04🔗 Adam She didn't blame that on you though. She'll blame me on that.

44:07🔗 Guest She sounds sweet.

44:08🔗 Adam Now, but you know these workout people, they got too much energy. Way too much. Mike? Mike, you're 24.

44:18🔗 Guest Yeah.

44:19🔗 Drew Oh, it sounds like he hung up.

44:21🔗 Caller Hello?

44:21🔗 Drew Oh, there he is.

44:22🔗 Adam Go ahead, Mike.

44:23🔗 Caller Oh, hi. I'm sorry. Yeah, I have like-

44:27🔗 Drew It's always a nice comment about the show, isn't it?

44:29🔗 Adam Yeah. Hey, Mike?

44:30🔗 Drew Oh, no. Robert wanted to know the answer to this question.

44:32🔗 Adam Okay, go ahead. Hurry up and ask that question, please.

44:34🔗 Caller I have like little purple, I'll explain, like dark purple tips like on my penis.

44:40🔗 Drew Dark purple tips?

44:42🔗 Caller They're like, they look purple, but they're like dark, like dark-

44:44🔗 Guest Like a little asparagus.

44:47🔗 Caller There you go. And-

44:48🔗 Drew I'm trying to picture it, Mike.

44:49🔗 Caller Okay, and they itch really bad, and I'm trying to figure out what-

44:52🔗 Drew They itch badly. They're on the shaft of the penis?

44:54🔗 Caller No, it's all, it's like from, like the middle up, and I'm on the computer and I have not seen anything that looks like what I, like what's happening.

45:01🔗 Drew The middle of the shaft-

45:03🔗 Guest What sites are you hitting?

45:04🔗 What's that?

45:05🔗 Drew Middle of the shaft to the tip?

45:06🔗 Caller Yes.

45:07🔗 Drew Middle of the shaft to the tip, is it circumferential? It's all the way around?

45:11🔗 Caller Not towards the bottom where the- I'll explain it.

45:14🔗 Drew You know what, as always, if you want to send a digital picture, what Loveline address can we use so I can look at a picture of this?

45:21🔗 Caller What?

45:22🔗 Adam No, listen, this guy barely has a phone. He doesn't think he's got a scanner. All right.

45:27🔗 Drew Well, there's just a digital camera, I'll just stick it in.

45:28🔗 Adam You think he's got a digital camera? I bet he doesn't have an Etch-a-Sketch.

45:32🔗 Drew Mike?

45:32🔗 Guest If you send a picture, I'll go back on Ally McBeal.

45:35🔗 Caller Would you really?

45:36🔗 Guest Not really.

45:37🔗 Drew All right, Mike.

45:37🔗 Caller I can tell you where a free clinic is in Silverlake.

45:39🔗 Guest That's right.

45:40🔗 Drew Yeah, Planned Parenthood San Diego is a wonderful, a huge-

45:44🔗 Caller I hear they specialize in purple bumps.

45:45🔗 Drew Well, here's the deal. As always, when it comes to skin lesions, people cannot describe it in a way that makes sense to me or give me any idea what's going on here. Anything itchy on the penis goes from anything from psoriasis to allergy to herpes, you know, to lichen planus. I mean, there's a lot of different things that can do that. I would need, you need to have someone look at it.

46:05🔗 Adam Go to Planned Parenthood over there. They have a new thing where you can drop your penis off at overnight deposit, just a slot right in the door and then leave it with a self-addressed stamp envelope and we should get it back in three working days.

46:18🔗 Caller Describing the bumps, did you ever see that commercial where the lady's trying to describe the sound her car's making because it's not working right?

46:24🔗 Adam Right.

46:24🔗 Caller That's what it's like trying to describe the bumps.

46:26🔗 Adam Virtually impossible and then you sprinkle a little weed and some booze and 70 minutes on hold and a double-digit IQ and now you got real difficulty painting a picture. All right, so Mike go down to Planned Parenthood, take care of that penis. We got to take ourselves a break. Anthony Kiedis, Robert Downey Jr. here tonight and we'll be back, give you all the particulars after this.

46:49🔗 Guest All right guys, here's the deal.

46:50🔗 Caller You're looking to hook up, sick of wasting time with the wrong person?

46:54🔗 Caller One call is all you need to make.

46:55🔗 Caller Call the Dateline.

46:56🔗 Caller 877-889-DATE.

46:59🔗 Caller Call the Dateline.

47:04🔗 Adam Where is it caused that Drew and myself are going to be a part of? This weekend, actually technically starting on Thursday, it's for the Hollywood Sunset Free Clinic. There's just tons of big names involved with this. The money all goes to the free clinic to give help to people who really, really need it. And Drew, I'm going to read this. www.silverliningsilverlake.com is what you'd log on to to get all the information you need.

47:33🔗 Drew Or Ticketmaster?

47:35🔗 Adam No, or Ticketmaster.

47:36🔗 Caller Or Ticketmaster.

47:37🔗 Adam That's right.

47:38🔗 Drew So the 13th will be out in John and Sting, the 14th Chili Peppers, the 15th, Higuariz, Amy Mann, the 15th, Higuariz again, Third Eye Blind, and more.

47:49🔗 Caller And Becky, which is Beck actually in drag for that particular... Now I'm kidding, but Amy Mann, who's playing on Friday, December 14th with us, us being right out Chili Peppers, I'm a huge fan.

48:02🔗 Adam She's great.

48:02🔗 Caller I just have to throw that out there. Listen to that girl's records and I get blown away.

48:07🔗 Adam She is an absolute bonafide talent. And who's her man? Michael Penn? The man is Michael Penn. He's not bad either. Those two should have some like talented kids.

48:20🔗 Caller They might have tennis instructors for kids.

48:23🔗 Adam Let's hope not.

48:25🔗 Guest And on the 13th playing with Elton John and Sting, Daniel L'Ennoy, who's just so amazing, has done all this soundtrack for Sling Blade. I mean, he's an immensely respected guy. And Deborah Falconer is also something else. She's actually my ex-wife as well.

48:40🔗 Adam And oh, really?

48:42🔗 Guest Yeah.

48:42🔗 Adam Is that going to be all right for you?

48:43🔗 Guest It's going to be so good.

48:45🔗 Drew I just got a note up here on the computer. It says the website's going nuts right now and that they should start using Ticketmaster.

48:51🔗 Adam All right. Well, do whatever you want.

48:52🔗 Caller Ticketmaster probably has bigger, better computers for taking.

48:57🔗 Adam And this is a night to not only see a bunch of great acts up close, but rub elbows and do a little hobnobbing with the big celebrities.

49:05🔗 Guest Everyone and their mom is going to be there. Sam Slavik, who helped me, who basically organized the event with the people at Silver Lining, Silver Lake, was saying just it's nuts.

49:17🔗 Adam Yeah, in a beautiful environment. I was there last year and it's absolutely amazing.

49:22🔗 Drew Let me just ask, if you go to Ticketmaster, do you look under Silver Lining, Silver Lake? What's the sort of keywords?

49:28🔗 Adam Keywords?

49:29🔗 Drew Hollywood Free Clinic?

49:29🔗 Caller We tried them all.

49:30🔗 Drew Okay. Hollywood Sunset Free Clinic.

49:32🔗 Adam Yeah. Well, they'll find it once they get there.

49:34🔗 Drew Silver Lining. I bet you Silver Lining will be there.

49:35🔗 Adam Josh?

49:36🔗 Yeah.

49:37🔗 Adam Well, just dates in LA probably narrow it down. Josh, you're 16?

49:42🔗 Caller Yeah.

49:42🔗 Adam What's up?

49:44🔗 Caller Yeah, I'm aware that when a girl loses her virginity, like she experiences apparently overwhelming pain.

49:53🔗 Drew Not necessarily.

49:54🔗 Adam No.

49:55🔗 Caller No.

49:55🔗 Drew Adam, she didn't even know anything had happened.

49:57🔗 Adam Now, thanks to the little miracle known as Rufies and Mickey's Big Mouth, she didn't wake up for days. Now, she said, are you in?

50:07🔗 Drew Or was it, are you done?

50:08🔗 Adam Are you done? Are you done? May have been it.

50:11🔗 Caller Why are you worried about the overwhelming pain?

50:14🔗 Caller Because, well, I was just wondering because I've heard that a lot and I've heard average size for a penis is six inches. Yeah. A little above that. And I was wondering what the correlation was.

50:28🔗 I'm a big boy.

50:30🔗 Drew How little above are we talking here?

50:32🔗 Caller Like about eight inches.

50:33🔗 Drew Yeah, that could do a little harm. But again, it's not going to be significantly more painful than someone who's not a virgin. It could be uncomfortable for anyone. And in fact, we have many more calls here about it.

50:47🔗 Caller Very uncomfortable to me personally.

50:49🔗 Drew Just thinking about it.

50:50🔗 Adam Yeah, but I'll tell you who's going to be uncomfortable with the next guy she gets with who's five inches.

50:55🔗 Guest And it's like a baby's arm in a warm room.

50:57🔗 Adam Who's got to have that, yeah. That's the guy who's going to be in pain. Josh, you just take it slow.

51:02🔗 Caller Exactly.

51:03🔗 Adam You're in love and you don't do anything that is uncomfortable for anyone and it'll all work out.

51:09🔗 Caller My understanding of the female vagina is that it-

51:12🔗 Drew As opposed to the male vagina?

51:13🔗 Caller As opposed to the hermaphrodite vagina.

51:15🔗 Drew I see.

51:15🔗 Caller Is that it expands and contracts with unbelievable elasticity.

51:20🔗 Drew That's correct. And it springs right back.

51:22🔗 Caller And if you just take it slow and go gentle and move your thing real mellow and with love.

51:29🔗 Adam Right.

51:30🔗 Caller And make sure she comes. I'm kidding.

51:33🔗 Caller Definitely.

51:34🔗 Adam How old is she? What is she, 11?

51:37🔗 Caller How old is she? 16.

51:39🔗 Drew 16. And if she's ready for this too, make sure. If she's nervous and ambivalent about- not clear that she should be engaging in this kind of activity, it can hurt no matter what. Whether you're 3 inches or 9 inches, it can be a very unpleasant and painful experience.

51:52🔗 Caller Is she into it?

51:54🔗 Caller Huh?

51:54🔗 Caller Is she into it?

51:55🔗 Caller Into what?

51:56🔗 Caller Losing her virginity to you.

51:57🔗 Caller Oh, yeah. Well, I guess so. I mean, I was just asking in case.

52:03🔗 Adam Are you a virgin?

52:05🔗 Caller No.

52:06🔗 Adam Did you sleep with someone else who was a virgin at some point? Have you hurt before?

52:10🔗 Drew Did you hurt the non-virgin?

52:12🔗 Guest The thresher, yeah.

52:13🔗 Drew No.

52:13🔗 Adam Okay.

52:14🔗 Caller All right.

52:15🔗 Caller You're going to be all right. Have fun.

52:16🔗 Caller Good times. Did you put me on hold so I can listen to the rest of the show?

52:20🔗 Adam Okay. Now. Why, you're calling from Colorado?

52:24🔗 Drew You should be hearing it.

52:24🔗 Caller Yeah, it's on tomorrow.

52:27🔗 Adam Oh, okay.

52:28🔗 Caller All right.

52:29🔗 Adam All right.

52:29🔗 Guest Don't be nervous.

52:30🔗 Caller You can do that for me.

52:30🔗 Drew I'll tie up a phone line for you. No problem.

52:32🔗 Adam All right. Let's talk to...

52:33🔗 Drew Oh, you hung up. And you hung up on that one, too.

52:35🔗 Adam I didn't hang up on him. I just hit five.

52:38🔗 Drew Oh, man.

52:39🔗 Adam I didn't hang up on anyone.

52:40🔗 Drew You went directly to five without putting him on hold. All right.

52:43🔗 Guest I was looking at his hand when you were on the screen. I'm like, I don't know.

52:46🔗 Caller That eight-inch was the easiest problem to solve all night.

52:49🔗 Drew See? We're going to get some...

52:50🔗 Adam Yeah, we're going to load some down.

52:51🔗 Caller Those other problems were difficult.

52:53🔗 Adam Charlie?

52:54🔗 Yeah.

52:55🔗 Adam You're 31.

52:57🔗 Caller What's up, Adam? I just want to say you're the man.

52:59🔗 Adam Hey, good times, buddy.

53:01🔗 Caller Robert Downey Jr. My favorite movie you were in was Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield.

53:08🔗 Guest Thanks, bro.

53:08🔗 Adam Oh, come on. How about Weird Science if you're going back that far? I love that movie.

53:14🔗 Caller I loved it when he would jump on the floor and start yelling, do me. Anyway, your recipe there for premature ejaculation was to squeeze one off 20 minutes beforehand.

53:29🔗 Adam Yeah.

53:29🔗 Caller Me and my wife tried that a couple of times, both different ways, and I still got that problem. I don't know what to do. I heard I would try a different thing, and we don't know where to go from here.

53:41🔗 Drew This is John Candy from the Grave, isn't it?

53:43🔗 Adam Yeah. What's up there? You smoke a lot of weed, Charlie?

53:47🔗 Caller No.

53:48🔗 Adam No, please. Please.

53:49🔗 Caller I have a technique for him.

53:50🔗 Guest Go ahead, Hanley.

53:53🔗 Caller So you've just been ejaculating prematurely, is that right?

53:56🔗 Caller Right.

53:57🔗 Drew How quick? Just for the record.

53:59🔗 Caller How quick? Like the dice man used to say, one stroke done.

54:04🔗 Caller Okay.

54:04🔗 Drew That's too quick.

54:05🔗 Caller But breathing, it's all about breath. If you focus on your breath rather than how good it's feeling down there, just breathe in and out like very intentional breathing like Don't focus on your penis. Focus on the breath.

54:23🔗 Drew Hold on.

54:23🔗 Adam I came when he did that. What's that mean?

54:26🔗 Guest I have a, there's another thing and this is really been having a profound effect on my staying power. Yoga brother.

54:35🔗 Adam Really?

54:36🔗 Guest Yes. Get your Kundalini on.

54:38🔗 Adam I can't picture Charlie in a lotus position. Hey, Charlie.

54:43🔗 Guest Charlie, go ashtanga.

54:44🔗 Adam Let me see if I can dangle a carrot in front of you. You get really good at that yoga. You can blow yourself.

54:51🔗 Caller Right. I used to be able to do that but I packed on a few pounds now.

54:54🔗 Adam Oh yeah. Now your guts in the way.

54:56🔗 Drew That's Ron Jeremy.

54:57🔗 Adam That's bad when your guts in the way.

55:00🔗 Guest Do the yoga with the boiler. Don't even worry about it.

55:03🔗 Caller Me and my brothers want to know, because we really like blood, sugar, sex, water. And me and my brothers want to know, does Anthony take it on the other side now or what?

55:13🔗 Caller That depends on your definition of the other side. It sounds like you've gone to a completely different place than I ever intended. But that's okay because lyrics were meant to be interpreted as seen fit. I mean, are you talking about some sort of a bisexual or gay reference there?

55:29🔗 Caller Yeah.

55:29🔗 Caller No, that's not what I was thinking when I wrote the song. You can interpret it if like that if you want to.

55:34🔗 Caller No, no, I'm a big fan of your lyrics. It just seemed like it's kind of been going downhill lately.

55:40🔗 Guest You are an asshole.

55:41🔗 Caller Alright.

55:42🔗 Adam Hey, Charlie. And by the way, Anthony's been critiqued by a guy who stopped blowing himself because his guts in the way.

55:48🔗 Guest Steady chuckles.

55:49🔗 Caller No, that's all right. Hey, you know, I'm not against having a little sensitive criticism from Charlie. The other side is about something much deeper than, you know, experimenting with male on male sex. Not what I'm into. But if you want to visualize that while you listen to the song, you go ahead.

56:07🔗 Adam Caroline. Caroline. Yes. You're 17. What's up?

56:10🔗 Caller Yeah. I just have a question for Anthony.

56:12🔗 Adam Here he is.

56:13🔗 Caller Okay. Hi, Anthony.

56:15🔗 Caller Am I going downhill in your eyes too?

56:16🔗 Drew Because he's about to kill himself. That's true.

56:20🔗 Caller I was just wondering if the new album that you're making, are you going to go for a new sound? Are you going to use that type of music that you use in California-cation? Do you know what I'm saying?

56:32🔗 Caller Yeah. We don't sit down and have a group discussion on which direction we're going in, or what kind of sound we want to come up with. It just happens. To us, it always seems like a natural progression from whatever we did before that. The more time we spend together, the more time our chemistry gets bubbling in the lab, it just comes out. I don't even know what to call it. It sounds to me like the next phase from Californication. It doesn't sound like Californication, but it sounds like a continuation thereof. We're pretty happy with it. It sounds good to us.

57:02🔗 Adam When's it coming out? Do you know?

57:05🔗 Caller We're still recording it. It comes out in the springtime of 2002.

57:10🔗 Adam Thanks, Carolyn.

57:10🔗 Caller Another question is, another thing I wanted to tell Anthony, I met you like, I'd say on Wednesday, August 16th, 2000.

57:22🔗 Drew Give or take?

57:23🔗 Caller Yeah. No, that's an exact date. It was in Toronto. You were staying in the Four Seasons Hotel in Silver Eye.

57:31🔗 Caller What town?

57:32🔗 Drew Toronto.

57:32🔗 Caller Toronto.

57:33🔗 Caller In New Yorkville, Toronto, yeah. And you guys did a show, whatever. And one of your friends hooked me up or something with the guest list. And I like followed you into the elevator at like 2 a.m. after your show.

57:44🔗 Caller Yep.

57:45🔗 Caller And I mean I really think I like scared you.

57:47🔗 Caller You followed me all the way to my door.

57:50🔗 Caller Oh, I did not.

57:51🔗 Caller Yeah, you did.

57:52🔗 Caller I was like, I'm not done talking to you or whatever, but I didn't find you out of your elevator.

57:57🔗 Guest I'm not done talking to you at 2 in the morning.

58:00🔗 Drew That's a scary thing to tell someone, Carolyn.

58:01🔗 Caller See, right now my girlfriend is listening. I hope my girlfriend is listening because now she sees exactly how I behave.

58:07🔗 Guest I would have gotten nervous and then felt immense relief at this story.

58:10🔗 Adam Just a $50 handy.

58:13🔗 Guest You can't buy those.

58:14🔗 Adam Hey, Carolyn.

58:14🔗 Caller It's money in the bank.

58:16🔗 Adam What do you got, a post-nasal drip going?

58:18🔗 Caller Oh, I'm so sick right now.

58:19🔗 Adam All right. Well, take care of yourself.

58:20🔗 Drew I'll be by for a vapor rub later. This is something we're trained to do is to point out to people when they're actually engaged in stalking behaviors. It helps them break through the denial about what they're doing. That's stalking. That is.

58:33🔗 Caller I have to close my door on it.

58:35🔗 Drew Yeah, it's a poor perception of boundaries. And they're always startled that you would perceive it that way. She can't imagine that. Look, it's two in the morning. You're following you to your room. It's maybe a 17-year-old, but you don't know.

58:46🔗 Caller I'm not done talking to you.

58:48🔗 Caller Thanks, Louis, for hooking her up, by the way.

58:49🔗 Adam But just, was she hot or? Yeah.

58:52🔗 Caller She wasn't.

58:54🔗 Adam Cindy?

58:55🔗 Yeah.

58:55🔗 Adam You're 20? What's up?

58:58🔗 Caller Well, I'm kind of confused because, like, I'm getting my life together. I had a couple of years where I was doing stuff that I wasn't very proud of and all that sort of thing, but I'm trying to do better now. And so I went to my doctor and I got HIV test and chlamydia and gonorrhea and a bunch of other stuff. And I know that I had chlamydia and I took the penicillin. I think the pills.

59:26🔗 Drew The Zithromax.

59:27🔗 Yeah.

59:29🔗 Caller And I did that. And so, and then I also, my doctor found that I had genital warts too.

59:39🔗 Drew Which would be completely, if you were sexually active, it would be bizarre if you didn't have that.

59:43🔗 Adam I have warts. Thank you.

59:47🔗 Caller The PVH.

59:48🔗 Drew HPV.

59:48🔗 Caller HPV, HPV, yeah.

59:50🔗 Adam She's also dyslexic. But go ahead. So you got everything.

59:54🔗 Drew So the question is?

59:55🔗 Caller The question is, is I don't, I just actually, like a couple, I just broke off a relationship, but I'm going to have to say something. I just feel it's so stupid because I'm, I'm the girl that you would like least suspect that.

1:00:09🔗 Drew Alright, here's the deal. First of all, the reality is that 50% of sexually active adults in your age group have HPV.

1:00:17🔗 Adam No, they don't.

1:00:18🔗 Drew They do.

1:00:20🔗 Caller And I heard like one out of four have chlamydia now in my group.

1:00:24🔗 Drew Well, that may be a little bit more of a statement, but the fact is, this is an ex- let's just state that it's exceedingly common. So it's not as though that you are sort of-

1:00:33🔗 Caller The warts? Is that what we're talking about?

1:00:34🔗 Adam Yes.

1:00:35🔗 Drew Especially in chlamydia, also common.

1:00:37🔗 Adam But chlamydia, she can knock down, right?

1:00:38🔗 Drew Completely curable.

1:00:39🔗 Caller Yeah, that's just like one pill that I-

1:00:40🔗 Adam Alright, so why even factor in that in?

1:00:42🔗 Drew Well, she had, she, and this is the other thing I want-

1:00:44🔗 Caller Because I could have exposed them to it.

1:00:47🔗 Drew But Cindy, somebody exposed you to it, too, after all. Be fair. And this is what I want to get into, is that you have such intense shame about your behavior into relation to whatever it was you were going through at that time in your life. You were where you were, you've gotten through that, you're understanding it, you're sort of containing your behavior as you're finding sort of more meaning from other kinds of relationships. Why beat the crap out of yourself? You have something that most people your age have, all people that are very sexually active have, and people need to wear condoms if they're going to be with you, if they're going to prevent infection, and indeed if you're going to be sexually active with someone, they should be wearing a condom. That's basically what this boils down to.

1:01:22🔗 Adam You probably find a guy who's got warts too.

1:01:25🔗 Drew I think that the fact that you are sort of coming more to terms with who you are and who you want to be, part of that is living with integrity, and I think it's, I commend you for wanting to be honest, because I think you'll feel a lot better about yourself, and you'll be part of this whole process you're going through, is being fastidiously honest. You need to be honest. So you need to tell people you've been exposed to it, work with them.

1:01:45🔗 Adam Well, only people you're going to screw. I mean, don't get a bullhorn and go to a mall.

1:01:49🔗 Drew Now look, go around the room here. If you're going to be with someone you're really into, and she mentions this, is it going to be a deal breaker?

1:01:55🔗 Caller I think it's very cool that she took the responsibility to find out, and that she's at least addressing the issue of how to deal with this.

1:02:01🔗 Drew She is getting herself together, quite literally.

1:02:03🔗 Caller That's a cool thing.

1:02:04🔗 Caller I was, I did, oh, because...

1:02:07🔗 Adam Yeah, but listen, Cindy, you know what you're doing? You see, you're taking all this guilt, and you're putting it on to your wards. I mean, what I'm saying is, is you, we don't, this guy doesn't have to know you got the wards from the 150th guy you're with. You could have just as easily got it from the first guy, and you think that because you have this, he's going to know about your past, but it's not true.

1:02:28🔗 Guest It also took someone who passed this on to you who didn't tell you before, so it's kind of like, you know, opportunity to stop that legacy there.

1:02:37🔗 Caller Yeah, and yeah, I totally understand.

1:02:40🔗 Drew But listen, but reassure her. Let's say you're into this girl, you dated her five times, now it's getting close, you're going to get physical, and she goes, I got to be honest about something.

1:02:48🔗 Caller How would you, as guys, how would you like a girl to...

1:02:51🔗 Caller That's right, if the girl I'm dating now had told me five times into the date that she had some sort of...

1:02:56🔗 Drew Yeah, no, no, not that you've been having sex five times, you're like getting to know her. Slowly building your...

1:03:01🔗 Caller There's no way that would have stopped me.

1:03:03🔗 Caller Yeah, but what would you, how would you have her say, would you rather just her be like, you need to go get teched or...

1:03:09🔗 Drew No, it's blurted out.

1:03:10🔗 Adam Yeah, just blurt it out over dinner. Besides, I mean, I'm all about BJs and anal anyway, so I don't even go there. I don't even know what that part is. What part do you get the words in?

1:03:19🔗 Drew The female vagina.

1:03:20🔗 Adam Is that the front part?

1:03:22🔗 Caller Um, actually, no, it's, um, you can have it, you can basically get it anywhere but...

1:03:26🔗 Drew Do you have it in the anal area?

1:03:28🔗 Caller Mine is on, no, it's in the wall between the rectal and...

1:03:32🔗 Drew Yeah, but not on the rectal side though.

1:03:34🔗 Caller No, not at all, but it can move over there.

1:03:36🔗 Caller Well, if it does...

1:03:38🔗 Drew It's a more serious issue over there because it becomes associated with anal cancer.

1:03:41🔗 Adam Okay, but like I said, just like everyone said, be straight with the next guy. This is part of what you're doing and the part of the journey you're making in your life. And they don't have to know about all the shame that potentially brought you these warts.

1:03:56🔗 Drew This guy's doing handsprings because you're going to have sex with him, that's all.

1:03:59🔗 Adam Yeah, that's what I hear when I hear this. Yeah, this means yes.

1:04:02🔗 Drew Yeah, this means we're going there, right.

1:04:03🔗 Adam Right.

1:04:04🔗 Caller Shed the shame.

1:04:05🔗 Adam Hey, Ariel?

1:04:06🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:04:07🔗 Adam Yeah, I like that, shed the shame. You're 17, what's up?

1:04:10🔗 Caller I just wanted to ask Robert if he's still planning on being in Hamlet under the direction of Mel Gibson?

1:04:18🔗 Drew Does a stage performance?

1:04:19🔗 Guest That's so high, bro. What show are we on now? We might do that at some point, yeah. We were going to do it last, around Christmas time, and things took a turn for the worse for me for a minute there, but maybe next spring or summer.

1:04:43🔗 Caller Okay, in Los Angeles?

1:04:44🔗 Guest Yeah, we do it in LA.

1:04:46🔗 Caller That would be cool, because I think you're such a great actor.

1:04:50🔗 Guest I appreciate it.

1:04:51🔗 Adam Yeah, I'll tell you, I'll take this moment to kiss Robert's ass for a second. Oh, yeah. You've obviously had your ups and downs in life, and nobody's, well, at least no one I know has turned on you. Like, they like you so much, and they like your work so much, and Drew, do you know what I'm saying? We've got a lot of people in here that have had trouble with addiction, they've had some bad times, and people sort of turn on them, like, especially if you do it a couple of times, like screw him, he deserves it, get rid of him, I hope he rot in jail. But with Robert Downey Jr, it's been like people are like pulling for you, and part of it is your talent, I think, that people really respond to. But I think the other part is your humanity that's maybe comes through in your work, or I don't know what it is, but people seem to really like you and really be pulling for you. And I don't know what that means to you. I mean, does that help you? Is that pressure for you?

1:05:51🔗 Guest Well, I think it's better than having people turn on you for sure. I wouldn't know because it's always that part who are like, but we really are pulling for you, and it's really good.

1:06:00🔗 Caller It is a strange thing, isn't it?

1:06:01🔗 Guest Yeah.

1:06:01🔗 Drew I bet it gets...

1:06:02🔗 Caller People are definitely in your corner.

1:06:04🔗 Drew I bet it works against you a little bit, though, because then what follows in the heels of that is, we got a job for you right now. We'd like you to, and boom, you're back at work before we have a chance to get focused on you.

1:06:13🔗 Guest Well, I'm real fortunate that I've been able to, for the first time since I was 17, aside from the summer I spent in Corcoran State Penitentiary, it's the first summer I've had off and through to the end of the year, and it's been really amazing because there's a lot of stuff that I just hadn't really ever got off the habit trail to look at. So, all the support and, like you're saying, the goodwill ultimately has sometimes carried me along when nothing else seemed like it would have. And being able to do something like this, benefit honestly with friends and people who are like family to me, it's almost like I feel like maybe people are recognizing that ultimately when I put this behind me a little bit at a time, that this would be the kind of stuff I'd want to do just because, as we all know, when you're out of yourself, you're actually benefiting more than when you're being self-indulgent.

1:07:03🔗 Adam Robert told me, by the way, that he would listen to the show when he was in Corcoran.

1:07:08🔗 Guest Who?

1:07:09🔗 Drew Where is that?

1:07:10🔗 Guest Corcoran?

1:07:11🔗 Adam Yeah, it's right out here.

1:07:12🔗 Guest By Bakersfield?

1:07:14🔗 Adam It's not bad. They got radios. Yeah.

1:07:16🔗 Drew In Bakersfield?

1:07:17🔗 Adam Yeah, they listen.

1:07:18🔗 Guest Even Fresno, too.

1:07:19🔗 Adam They're closer to Fresno. Listen to the Loveline over there. Yeah. That's why I'm always... And this is our core audience, by the way.

1:07:27🔗 Guest I want to say hi to all the brothers who are doing Time. I also want to say hi to my friend, Catnip, aka Michael V, who's down in San Diego County Jail right now.

1:07:38🔗 Adam And stay up, bro. And what... Now, what was you... What were you... Were you in for, like, nine months, did you say?

1:07:44🔗 Guest I was in for a year and a half.

1:07:46🔗 Adam Jesus.

1:07:47🔗 Guest Yeah. Yeah.

1:07:48🔗 Adam Well, you're... I don't know. I don't want to say good. I don't want to say bad.

1:07:53🔗 Guest Great!

1:07:54🔗 Adam I mean, was it a good... Did you feel like it saved your life in any way? Do you know? I mean, I know guys... I have friends who went in and it saved their lives. Because they were at a point where they were...

1:08:06🔗 Guest You know that I got out and then continued after several other little bits of... So for me...

1:08:12🔗 Caller I can understand that personally.

1:08:13🔗 Guest Yes.

1:08:14🔗 Caller I can relate. You did that? Things come along where you would say to yourself, there's no way this person could possibly go back to using after that. Maybe your best friend dies in your arms from an overdose and you think, well, that'll sort of solve his problem. It doesn't.

1:08:29🔗 Drew You could say that if you've never known this disease. You know what I'm saying? People that really know this disease, it just makes sense.

1:08:34🔗 Caller I can understand going out after serving a year and a half.

1:08:37🔗 Drew I've seen worse things.

1:08:38🔗 Guest Sure. As they say, out the gate by eight, in the spoon by noon, back again by ten.

1:08:46🔗 Caller Wow.

1:08:47🔗 Drew Is that in the penitentiary, that's the saying?

1:08:49🔗 Guest Yes.

1:08:50🔗 Adam It's not actually printed up and framed and put up on the wall in the rec center, is it?

1:08:54🔗 Drew They chant it every morning at the Pentecostal Allegiance.

1:08:56🔗 Adam It's not a mantra. It's not prison policy, is it?

1:08:59🔗 Drew No, it's not. What's policy, Adam?

1:09:01🔗 Adam Well, it's colloquialism that's picked up in the joint.

1:09:04🔗 Guest But as you know, as a specialist, too, and I think that there's starting to be a bit of a movement in that is that everyone operates at a different wavelength and you never quite know but it seems like the people have just been constantly saying, well, we're not going to judge this. We're going to keep doing this and trying different stuff. I think that that's kind of where things are headed is applying as many different possible remedies as you can for a given individual.

1:09:33🔗 Adam Sure. Were there resources for you when you were in? I mean, did they have programs?

1:09:39🔗 Guest Yeah, there was a TC therapeutic community going on there but I think more than anything else was, you know, some of it could be counterproductive. I wouldn't say that prison is somewhere that saves your life, whether there's a program there or not, it's inherently dangerous and degrading and heartbreaking. But, looking back on it, it lets me know all those times, whether it was times that I was in, I wasn't under the influence of anything for that entire period of time. But you look back on things, you know, the human spirit is so strong that you can, I think it's just important to survive whatever it is that you've been putting yourself through until it runs its course and then do everything you can to keep it right.

1:10:27🔗 Drew So another way of saying that is when you're done, you're done.

1:10:31🔗 Caller I also find my experience is never give up on somebody else because as long as somebody's breathing, there is hope for that person. It doesn't matter how impossible their situation seems to be, if there's a degree of willingness at all, there's hope.

1:10:46🔗 Drew Anthony and I were talking out the air about some cases that I was involved with that Anthony knows and we have seen some miracles. My willingness was not even a concept that some of these people could even have, but they were breathing. Barely, albeit, but they were breathing and they were miracles.

1:11:00🔗 Caller Yeah, I've seen the worst cases I've ever seen and they've come back to be clean and incredibly creative and productive people.

1:11:08🔗 Adam Well, I haven't seen this kind of tragedy myself, but my TiVo cramped out like two weeks ago. Oh, man. Not for one night, but for three days. And there were times when I almost slipped.

1:11:23🔗 Caller I never lost faith in you.

1:11:25🔗 Adam But that's the point. I had people behind me. I felt their strength and their goodwill and I stayed with it. And with God willing, it's going to stay together for a while. One taped program at a time, though. That's the thing.

1:11:38🔗 Caller How much my mom loves you, Robert?

1:11:41🔗 Adam Oh.

1:11:41🔗 Caller Oh, man, she loves you so much.

1:11:43🔗 Adam Really?

1:11:44🔗 Caller Yeah. You talk about that humanity, that sort of inner something that, you know, every human, every man, every woman can relate to, the kind of compassion that people get.

1:11:53🔗 Drew To Pissy and Robert?

1:11:54🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:11:55🔗 Caller Yeah. Or in lots of people, Robert, you know, because we're talking about him right now, but my mom is very sensitive like that.

1:12:01🔗 Adam But in one more just quick ass lick before we go to overdue break. I don't hang around with real sophisticated people and they don't seem to know the difference between one guy's acting and another guy's acting, especially when it's on Ali McBeal. They don't know what guys are acting like. They know what people they like. Yeah. They actually think the skipper is trapped on the island. I mean, my buddies.

1:12:24🔗 Caller What are you trying to say? He's not?

1:12:25🔗 Adam No, that's... Oh, I don't want to burst any bubbles here. But with Robert, it's like people who don't care about acting don't seem to know about acting. They're like, that guy is so good. And that is... I mean, it's one thing to have the critics recognize it, but the people aren't necessarily interested in it or too educated about it. To really...

1:12:46🔗 Caller No pressure, man.

1:12:46🔗 Adam For you to really speak to them is an incredible gift.

1:12:49🔗 Guest Now I want to get drunk.

1:12:51🔗 Adam We'll take a break. Let's go to the park, see if we can score. And we'll be right back after this. Hey, it's the Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew over there. Robert Downey Jr. and Anthony Kiedis are here tonight. They are here to promote a very worthy cause for the Hollywood Sunset Free Clinic. And that's going to be a benefit that's going on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, coming up in the next few days. Big, big bands, big, big celebrities and a real good cause. And you can get tickets through Ticketmaster and you can go on to their website and just track them down, all right?

1:13:32🔗 Caller Something's going on here.

1:13:33🔗 Adam That's right.

1:13:34🔗 Caller Must be.

1:13:35🔗 Adam All right. Let's talk to Aaron who's 27.

1:13:40🔗 Caller Hi, Adam. Dr. Drew.

1:13:42🔗 Adam Hey, Aaron.

1:13:43🔗 Caller I called because I wanted to ask Anthony a question.

1:13:46🔗 Adam Here he is.

1:13:48🔗 Caller I've had this question I've wanted to ask you since 94. And I knew that if I met you, I'd ask you this. I entered this contest with the Rockets for Coupon in the Stupor Hood, your fan club, that your dad runs. And he had this cover contest where he had to design a cover for the next magazine that was coming out.

1:14:09🔗 Caller I remember the contest.

1:14:12🔗 Caller Yeah, so your dad gave me this prize and said that I won, and you actually picked my design. And I just want to know if that was true, if you actually picked it, or if you remember it.

1:14:25🔗 Caller I remember looking at tons of artwork that people sent in, and I remember commenting on all of it. My memory does get hazy.

1:14:33🔗 Caller Oh, it's OK.

1:14:33🔗 Caller But what did it look like?

1:14:36🔗 Caller Well, I kind of took, it was a motif a little bit off of Blood Sugar Sex Magic, as opposed to Blood Sugar Sex Water, like the guy you called earlier.

1:14:47🔗 Caller That was Charlie, the guy who said, I'm going downhill.

1:14:51🔗 Caller Except for, because, you know, I kind of thought that was really sexual.

1:14:54🔗 I saw something very sexual about the cover of that album.

1:14:58🔗 Adam What did you draw, though?

1:15:00🔗 Caller Oh, well, in the center of the rose, I put my cubic area where I had shaved the logo in.

1:15:07🔗 Caller Yes, yes, yes, yes. I came right back.

1:15:09🔗 Adam Shaved the logo?

1:15:10🔗 Caller She had shaved the Red Hot Chili Peppers asterisk into her cubic hair, and it looked hot, and you won. Didn't you ever see the magazine with you in it?

1:15:18🔗 Caller Oh, yeah. Except for, you know what? He edited me out. No, no, I didn't get the cover just because, you know, there's a lot of ten-year-olds in your club and stuff like that.

1:15:27🔗 Caller You were in there somewhere. I remember.

1:15:29🔗 Caller Yeah, I know, but they covered the good part. I can't believe how many creepy mails I got from people I've known.

1:15:36🔗 Adam Why are you asking if you won if you know-

1:15:38🔗 Drew No, no, she wants to know if Anthony actually picked it.

1:15:40🔗 Caller I want to know if he really picked it.

1:15:41🔗 Caller Oh, I saw it and I gave it a full approval.

1:15:45🔗 Drew Two thumbs up.

1:15:46🔗 Caller It looked, it was a great design.

1:15:48🔗 Caller Yeah, you know what?

1:15:48🔗 Caller I got to tell you that-

1:15:49🔗 Caller You see a lot of Mohawks out there, a lot of clean shaven, you don't see a lot of asterisks.

1:15:53🔗 Caller Well, that's true. I had to grow it out for a month to be able to get that kind of, like- Get some real definition.

1:16:02🔗 Adam How much work is involved with growing your pubic hair though? Can you still hold down a job? Is that something you can do at the workplace?

1:16:09🔗 I don't know.

1:16:11🔗 Caller I just felt a little bit like woodsy or something.

1:16:16🔗 Adam I see.

1:16:16🔗 Caller By not being as clean as I can.

1:16:18🔗 Adam Right. Did you have a man at the time?

1:16:23🔗 Caller Yeah, he helped me because...

1:16:26🔗 Adam He was okay with the sort of Dan Haggerty beard down there?

1:16:31🔗 Caller There's no Dan Haggerty.

1:16:34🔗 Adam I mean, she had to grow it out in order to...

1:16:35🔗 Caller It was more of a George Michaels thing.

1:16:38🔗 Drew The Fuller beard.

1:16:40🔗 Adam Alright, Aaron.

1:16:41🔗 Drew Alright, Aaron, here we go.

1:16:42🔗 Adam Don't have any kids.

1:16:44🔗 Caller No, I don't. Did you... Do you play in a band called Anthem in high school?

1:16:49🔗 Caller No, but I introduced a band called Anthem in high school.

1:16:53🔗 Adam Alright, Aaron.

1:16:54🔗 Caller Adam's getting triggered. Finger happiness here.

1:16:57🔗 Adam That's a lot of just funky folks calling tonight. Alexandra?

1:17:03🔗 Caller Hi, I'm a long time listener, first time caller.

1:17:05🔗 Adam Great.

1:17:05🔗 Caller It's really great to be talking with you guys. I'm also a big fan of Robert Downey Jr. I think you're really talented and I was just wondering what you look for, I guess, in a project. Is it in the script, in the director? What kind of aspects of a good movie do you look for before undertaking a project?

1:17:26🔗 Guest Oh, I see. Half the time, if by the time I'm done reading it, I've thrown it across the room and say, how dare they send me this crap, I'll probably wind up doing it.

1:17:35🔗 Caller Really?

1:17:36🔗 Guest And the other half the time, I'm lucky enough to just follow my intuition and go with what feels like I'm supposed to do.

1:17:44🔗 Adam How much does stuff change? I mean, like, let's say you read the script and the script's sort of so-so, but you know there's a great director who maybe you've worked with or whose work you appreciate that's attached to it. Do you go, this guy's going to make this work? Do you know what I mean?

1:17:59🔗 Guest Yeah. Well, I think it is an exact science, but I'm not the type to want to spend half the day being one of those like really like conscientious work at work at work at act types. Usually what you look at what a director just did and if it pales by comparison to what he's been doing before, then it means that he'd probably like you to be involved in his downward spiral.

1:18:20🔗 Adam Right.

1:18:21🔗 Guest Meanwhile, I only say that because my first reaction to having to work for a living is always this is this is really sucks.

1:18:30🔗 Adam Right.

1:18:31🔗 Guest But I've always worked for a living whether I was selling shoes or working at clubs or as a bus boy. So I've just always had somewhat of an aversion to work until I start.

1:18:42🔗 Adam And then then enjoy the process?

1:18:44🔗 Guest Usually, yeah.

1:18:45🔗 Adam And what about I would imagine that other people that are signed on would be could entice you as well.

1:18:52🔗 Guest Yes.

1:18:52🔗 Adam I mean, they're cast members working with people.

1:18:55🔗 Guest But largely it's an intuitive thing.

1:18:57🔗 Caller I like the intuition.

1:18:57🔗 Guest Thank you for asking.

1:18:59🔗 Caller It's to pay attention to your intuition.

1:19:01🔗 Drew I agree.

1:19:01🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:19:02🔗 Drew People would not have taught that in this country. And it's a huge deal. But it kind of sounds like you had a version to working except you still have a version when you're working. Right. That's true. You have a version to starting and then once you're in it it's bad too.

1:19:18🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:19:18🔗 Drew It's all bad.

1:19:19🔗 Guest It's a child energy. It's just like school.

1:19:22🔗 Adam Yeah. Yeah.

1:19:23🔗 Guest You know you're going to go and you want to graduate and you're going to feel better and that's where all your friends are and it's what you're supposed to do. Right. It's just like, oh mom, make mine scramble. Mom, I'm sick.

1:19:31🔗 Adam Well, my motto is decide what you want to do in life and then take a nap. That's my approach. It says nothing that couldn't be done tomorrow or possibly the next day. Kate?

1:19:44🔗 Caller Yes.

1:19:44🔗 Adam You're 20?

1:19:46🔗 Caller Yes, I am.

1:19:46🔗 Adam What's up?

1:19:47🔗 Caller Okay, this may sound stupid, but I think I have sex wrong and I was wondering, because you're four people, you could tell me what I should do instead. I've had sex with three different guys and none of them all came.

1:19:57🔗 Adam None of them had an orgasm.

1:19:58🔗 Drew You're fat.

1:19:59🔗 Adam Drew, please, please. We don't know that.

1:20:01🔗 Caller It could be true.

1:20:02🔗 Caller You never know.

1:20:03🔗 Adam Well.

1:20:04🔗 Caller Why couldn't you come if she was fat?

1:20:06🔗 Adam No, I drew was very cruel that way. I think women are all God's creatures and I will hump the bejesus out of any of them, whatever what shape they're in. I hear here.

1:20:17🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:20:18🔗 Adam Three guys, no semen.

1:20:20🔗 Caller Right.

1:20:21🔗 Drew Did something cut things short or were these extraordinary circumstances?

1:20:25🔗 Guest Did you live near a train station?

1:20:26🔗 Drew Were you in Afghanistan?

1:20:28🔗 Caller No, no. I'm in Arizona. It was one of those things where you're at a party, you're kind of drunk, like, hey, let's hook up and hooked up and they didn't come.

1:20:36🔗 Adam Or were they drunk?

1:20:37🔗 Caller Yes.

1:20:38🔗 Drew Well, there you go.

1:20:39🔗 Adam That'll do it. Mysterious.

1:20:40🔗 Caller But all three?

1:20:41🔗 Drew All three.

1:20:43🔗 Caller No, actually only one thirty-two.

1:20:44🔗 Drew Alcohol can work against guys, and actually really any drug of abuse can work against sexual functioning. Some people find that they're sort of de-repressed, they're less anxious, so they feel like they're performing better. But the reality is it all works against normal performance.

1:20:59🔗 Adam But hey, Kate, what's up? You're twenty, haven't had a boyfriend?

1:21:03🔗 Caller I had two.

1:21:05🔗 Adam And did you have sex with them?

1:21:06🔗 Caller I had sex with one of them.

1:21:08🔗 Drew And he didn't come?

1:21:09🔗 Caller No.

1:21:09🔗 Adam In the span of this relationship, I mean, you had sex with them multiple times?

1:21:14🔗 Caller Probably, I don't know, we were only going out for about three months, so I probably had sex maybe four times, like during the end of the relationship, before I kind of dropped him.

1:21:21🔗 Adam But he wasn't some guy you hooked up with at a keger.

1:21:24🔗 Caller No, but he was pretty wasted that night, too.

1:21:27🔗 Adam He was wasted the four times he had sex with you?

1:21:30🔗 Caller Well, he was in a frat, so yeah.

1:21:32🔗 Guest Was it a Tantric frat?

1:21:35🔗 Adam Yeah, it's a Sting's frat.

1:21:37🔗 Caller Sorry.

1:21:38🔗 Adam A campus screw all night out or something.

1:21:41🔗 Caller Have sex with someone who's sober, see what happens there. Just crazy idea.

1:21:47🔗 Adam Kate, you just need to hook up and get in a steady relationship and find a guy you're in love with and have that moment.

1:21:55🔗 Caller Okay, so it's not me? Like I don't need to change anything?

1:21:58🔗 Drew Well, if you do, somebody who's involved with you will tell you.

1:22:01🔗 Adam Well, what would you think if it was you? Do you have anything we need to know about?

1:22:05🔗 Caller I guess that I don't know.

1:22:06🔗 Caller I have no clue at all.

1:22:08🔗 Drew You're just doing your thing.

1:22:10🔗 Adam All right. You're fine. It's just the guys.

1:22:13🔗 Caller Okay.

1:22:13🔗 Adam It's always the guys.

1:22:14🔗 Caller I think it's the beer. I think it's the booze.

1:22:16🔗 Drew Yeah. I agree.

1:22:17🔗 Adam I'll hook up with a regular guy, but still, she had a boyfriend and this guy was drunk all the time? Yeah.

1:22:22🔗 Drew She'll only hook up with him at a fraternity party. What kind of boyfriend is that?

1:22:25🔗 Guest Four times in three months. That sounds like they were married.

1:22:27🔗 Drew Not a boyfriend.

1:22:28🔗 Caller Do it outside. That helps, too.

1:22:29🔗 Adam All right. All right. Good times there, Kay. Right. All right.

1:22:36🔗 Drew Time for the Peter Fonda drop.

1:22:37🔗 Guest That was in Palos Verdes, that last one, huh?

1:22:39🔗 Adam Yeah. I guess it was.

1:22:41🔗 Drew All right.

1:22:41🔗 Adam We're going to take ourselves a little bit of a break here. We got Robert Downey Jr. and Anthony Kiedis all here to promote a very wonderful cause, Drew.

1:22:53🔗 Drew Indeed, it is the Silver Lining, Silver Lake benefit for the Hollywood Sunset Free Clinic. Again, Ticketmaster is where you can get the tickets. Look up Silver Lining. The website, probably tomorrow when the traffic will slow down enough that you can actually get on to the site, it's www.silverliningsilverlake.com.

1:23:10🔗 Adam And it's all going to a real good cause. So we'll take a break. We'll be right back. Yo, Loveline. I'm Adam, that is Drew. I just told Drew to go get Anthony and Robert. They are now in the studio. And we're here tonight promoting a very, very worthy cause. It's the Hollywood Sunset Free Clinic and a big benefit going on. Three days, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Drew and I will be there on Friday doing a little MC work and Robert's going to be there quite a bit. All three days, wasn't it?

1:23:53🔗 Guest All three days.

1:23:54🔗 Drew Did you guys know each other before this project?

1:23:56🔗 Guest Loosely.

1:23:57🔗 Caller Loosely.

1:23:57🔗 Guest Yeah.

1:23:58🔗 Caller I wore Robert like a loose fitting garment for years before this.

1:24:01🔗 Drew Back to that.

1:24:02🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:24:03🔗 Guest And in that particular period of time we had like the bleach blonde hair.

1:24:07🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:24:08🔗 Guest That was awesome. I saw that today on MTV. They're doing a retrospective on you. Yeah.

1:24:15🔗 Caller I'm smiling. This is for you in Radio Land.

1:24:17🔗 Adam Lisa?

1:24:18🔗 Yeah.

1:24:18🔗 Adam You're 28?

1:24:19🔗 Caller Yep.

1:24:20🔗 Adam What's up?

1:24:21🔗 Caller I'm starting to get kind of concerned. I have completely just, I don't know, the thought of sex bores me. I feel like I've kind of lost my sex drive. I don't feel like that's normal.

1:24:32🔗 Drew It's not normal to be so without a sex drive. Is that what you mean?

1:24:36🔗 Caller I mean, most all my friends are guys and I don't, it's not like I don't have the opportunity. It just doesn't interest me.

1:24:43🔗 Drew Is it at the point where if you even look at people touching or kissing, it looks kind of like what the hell, what's going on here?

1:24:48🔗 Caller No, not so much that. I've noticed there is kind of a little twinge of like, God, I wish I still kind of felt that.

1:24:55🔗 Drew But it's an empty, it's a zero for you.

1:24:57🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:24:57🔗 Adam But you're not in a relationship, right?

1:24:59🔗 Caller No.

1:25:00🔗 Adam If you hooked up the guy you're really into, wouldn't you be into it?

1:25:04🔗 Caller I kind of had the opportunity to re-hook up with somebody that I had dated for a while, and it just didn't.

1:25:09🔗 Drew Are you depressed?

1:25:10🔗 Caller No.

1:25:11🔗 Drew Are you on medication?

1:25:12🔗 Caller No.

1:25:13🔗 Drew No birth control pills or anything like that?

1:25:14🔗 Caller No.

1:25:15🔗 Drew Nothing, nothing over the counter?

1:25:16🔗 Caller No, I took myself off the pill like two months ago.

1:25:19🔗 Adam Yeah, why bother? And what are you doing right now? You're working?

1:25:23🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:25:23🔗 Adam And is everything going okay?

1:25:25🔗 Caller Everything's going great at work.

1:25:27🔗 Adam And do you have any kids or are you divorced?

1:25:29🔗 Caller No.

1:25:30🔗 Caller The case of the missing libido.

1:25:32🔗 Caller I know. I do have to say one little thing, though. Robert Downey Jr., you have been just an acting icon to me for years. I really am just very impressed with all of your work.

1:25:43🔗 Guest You want to screw? Yeah. Hey, you know what I want to say? Six months ago, I was in the exact same place.

1:25:50🔗 Drew No sex drive.

1:25:51🔗 Guest Yeah. And when you're in that space, it doesn't seem like it's ever going to shift. However, there is no external stimuli that's really going to prod it into a change. I did notice, though, when I really focused on myself, I know it sounds so cliché, mundane, and really put some time in of just getting in touch with really what I was feeling and really what came up and working with it and in whatever way seemed to be intuitively appropriate. When it changed, it changed big time.

1:26:23🔗 Adam Hey, Lisa. Yeah. Yeah, I think your biggest mistake, and I'm kind of agreeing with Robert or making his point again, which is I don't question it so much. There's sort of an ebb and a flow, especially with women sexually, where there's hot times and there's cold times, and you're in a down time. If you're not on medication, you're not depressed, and you're focusing on your work, and you're not in a relationship, then maybe just go with it. Maybe this is God telling you to put down your vibrator and pick up the Bible, and stuff that up your coos.

1:26:56🔗 Caller No, God would say that.

1:26:58🔗 Caller One of the little hand held versions.

1:27:00🔗 Drew Yeah, vibrating, Bible, not the hardcover. Are you menstruating normally?

1:27:04🔗 Caller Ouch.

1:27:05🔗 Drew And everything else is normal medically. You haven't lost weight. There's nothing else going on that way.

1:27:09🔗 Caller No, everything else has been just peachy.

1:27:11🔗 Drew And again, thinking it through, no over-the-counter medicines, vitamins, anything funny like that.

1:27:14🔗 Caller No, I'm not into medication of any kind.

1:27:17🔗 Drew All right, then I'm with Adam.

1:27:18🔗 Caller You're going to be all right. Like Robert said, it's going to shift. When you least expect it, it seems like it'll never pass. It's going to shift.

1:27:23🔗 Adam Yeah, and you'll fall in love and get that libido fired up again. Brittany?

1:27:27🔗 Caller Yes.

1:27:29🔗 Adam You're 21?

1:27:30🔗 Caller Yes, I am.

1:27:31🔗 Adam What's up?

1:27:33🔗 Caller I have a question for Dr. Drew and all you guys.

1:27:35🔗 Guest All right.

1:27:37🔗 Caller I've been with my boyfriend for a little over a year now. I moved in with him about seven, eight months ago and I noticed that he was looking at porn. Okay. Now, I don't have a problem with porn. I actually, I enjoy watching it with him. But then it turned into he'd start signing up for all these personal sites, like Adult Friend Finder and alt.com.

1:27:57🔗 Drew Whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever.

1:27:58🔗 Caller Right, right, right. Well, anyways, and he's not chatting with these girls or anything. But why is he doing this? Why is he looking at? I mean, it's like at the minute I leave the room or I go to work, he's looking at it. Why?

1:28:10🔗 Drew How long have you been with him?

1:28:12🔗 Caller About a year and two months.

1:28:13🔗 Drew And when did he start getting momentum with this?

1:28:16🔗 Caller About six, seven months ago. He said he's always done it.

1:28:18🔗 Drew Yeah, that's what I think. No, no, no. I think he's always done it. He just put it down for a while to impress you and he's getting back to his normal routine now that it is more comfort in the relationship.

1:28:27🔗 Adam Right. And guys do this. I have noticed myself do this. That when a woman moves in, you feel like you're being infringed upon somehow and you have to clear your own space, even if it's within the same cave. And that's the computer or that's your porn. It's like a way of sort of escaping from the relationship and still being in the relationship. Don't young guys do this?

1:28:51🔗 Drew I'm sure they do it. Please don't use yourself as an example of what's normal male behavior. Please don't. It may be what you do and yes, guys do that.

1:29:00🔗 Adam If you could wrestle your balls away from your wife for 10 minutes, you'd enjoy some porn too. She'd just tell you where she was hiding them. She possibly sold them at a yard sale. Yeah, hey, hey, Brittany?

1:29:12🔗 Caller Yes?

1:29:12🔗 Adam How old is this guy?

1:29:14🔗 Caller He's 29.

1:29:15🔗 Adam Hmm, he's never lived with a woman? Has he been married?

1:29:18🔗 Caller Yeah, he's been married before.

1:29:19🔗 Adam Hmm, do you think he's feeling like a little antsy about living with a woman?

1:29:24🔗 Caller I don't know, I don't know. I've talked to him, he wants to be with me, he wants to spend the rest of his life with me and all this stuff.

1:29:31🔗 Adam Right, but doesn't it feel to everyone like he's sort of retreating into his own space when he does this?

1:29:37🔗 Caller Yeah, well, porn can be very obsessive and very addictive. Absolutely. And personally, it always leaves me feeling incredibly empty and a little bit distant from those that I'm actually close to.

1:29:47🔗 Drew That's exactly what it does.

1:29:48🔗 Caller But again, it can be a face thing and hopefully...

1:29:52🔗 Drew It is, though. It's the crack cocaine of the sex addict. Man, it is just the rocket fuel.

1:29:58🔗 Caller So you think he's obsessed?

1:29:59🔗 Drew Well, I'm suspicious. I mean, if it's having consequences and he can't control it, it's something to look at. And there's something I think is important to understand about this is that it's normal to have a certain amount of momentum with these highly arousing kinds of stimuli. I mean, guys kind of get going with it and any male will get some momentum going in. And if that kind of arousal becomes compulsive or a way of managing feelings, you can really get going with it. And it's really about first and foremost getting a little abstinent of staying away from it for a little while and seeing what happens, seeing if the relationship can reestablish itself.

1:30:31🔗 Adam All right. Hey, Brittany.

1:30:32🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:30:33🔗 Adam So should she discuss this with him?

1:30:34🔗 Caller Yeah, I would. I said discuss.

1:30:35🔗 Caller Oh, I discussed it with him time and time again. He said he won't give it up. Wow.

1:30:40🔗 Adam I admire his conviction. And you got to talk to him after he beats off because then he'll be like, are you kind? Never again.

1:30:47🔗 Caller You're the one he's demoralized.

1:30:47🔗 Drew Brittany, there's a website, the ncsac.org. Write that down, ncsac.org, which the National Council, NCSAC, National Council on Sexual Addiction and Compulsivity. And they have articles there about cyber sex and sexual addictions. You might sort of toss it a little bit that his way and see if it sounds, if he feels like maybe that's him.

1:31:06🔗 Adam Okay, Robin, we'll try this real fast. You want to know if it's a good idea to get together with a girl who lives with your ex-boyfriend?

1:31:16🔗 Caller No, no, her, her ex-boyfriend.

1:31:18🔗 Adam Her ex-boyfriend.

1:31:19🔗 Caller But that was actually, it is a real question, but that's not really what I wanted to talk about. My first question, I...

1:31:26🔗 Adam No, listen, you got time for half a question, so go.

1:31:29🔗 Caller Half a question? How do I get through the depression after... I just got out of rehab and...

1:31:37🔗 Drew What's your drug of choice?

1:31:38🔗 Caller Heroin.

1:31:39🔗 Drew And how long sober are you?

1:31:41🔗 Caller I'm not.

1:31:42🔗 Drew Okay. Well, listen.

1:31:44🔗 Caller I was sober for a week.

1:31:46🔗 Drew Hang on. Listen, the one thing about hair and withdrawal is that it leaves you with a profound sense of emptiness, like a loss, like someone you loved has died, and there is no medication, there's nothing that gets you over that. You have to stay in the program, stay connected with other people, stay with a high degree of structure so you can tolerate it because it does get better with time, but it takes many weeks.

1:32:07🔗 Adam And you've got to get clean just to begin that.

1:32:10🔗 Caller I also wanted to say to Robert that you've been such an inspiration.

1:32:14🔗 Guest Thank you so much.

1:32:15🔗 Caller You give me, like, hope that I might be able to do it.

1:32:18🔗 Guest Well, I'm telling you that when I was in the space where you say you're at right now, it's so funny that you're wondering where things are going on, but you haven't quite put it down. I assure you, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that you cannot even begin to experience how awesome your life will be. It's just a matter of time. Let it run its course and don't look back. You can do it, honey. I swear to God.

1:32:44🔗 Adam Thanks, Robin. Thank you. Alright, take care of yourself.

1:32:48🔗 Drew Get back into a place where you're living in a structured environment. It's what you need right now.

1:32:51🔗 Adam Alright, we'll be right back. Well, that is it. Where did the time go? I want to thank Robert Downey Jr. and Anthony Kiedis for coming in here and being just great, great guests, open books and sharing lots of insights and stories and really a treat to have you guys on.

1:33:18🔗 Caller Thank you, Adam.

1:33:19🔗 Adam For a very worthy cause, Hollywood Sunset Free Clinic and again you can check out Ticketmaster to get tickets for Thursday, Friday and Saturday or www.silverliningsilverlake.com. We'll be there Friday night. We will see you guys there.

1:33:38🔗 Caller It's going to be fun.

1:33:39🔗 Adam And you got to pretend like you know us, though, so we seem cool.

1:33:42🔗 Caller Are you guys working on some sort of shtick for the show?

1:33:46🔗 Adam Yeah, we're doing a Martin and Lewis thing.

1:33:47🔗 Drew Yeah, we've never worked on anything in our entire relationship.

1:33:51🔗 Adam No, we're not about to start. Alright, thanks a lot, guys.

1:33:55🔗 Guest Thank you.

1:33:56🔗 Adam So until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:33:59🔗 Guest As they say, out the gate by eight, in the spoon by noon, back again by ten.

1:34:07🔗 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on the show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors for this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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