1:02🔗VoiceoverListener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.
1:13🔗VoiceoverHey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. What, Drew?
1:25🔗DrewIt's just nice to know that we've returned to our priorities here in Loveline. Worrying about how your TiVo functions and your car.
1:31🔗AdamI was trying to TiVo the Family Guy tonight, which is my favorite show, except for the TiVo schedule because of the tragedies all screwed up or the satellite schedule. And it reads that the Love Cruise is going to be on Fox, when in fact I know that the Family Guy is going to be on at 9.30.
1:50🔗DrewAh, that's the second tragedy in 10 days.
1:54🔗AdamYou know what's great about me? Even when I have cutting edge technology, I have to infuse some caveman into the operation of it, which is the reason I was almost late tonight, is because I always leave my house about 9.25. And I'm usually pushing pretty good to get here. But tonight, I had to stay until 9.31 because I had to actually see the family guy begin and then hit record. I could not trust it any other way. So here's the point. Technology only affects my life to a certain degree. I still have to actually stand there. Unacceptable.
2:34🔗AdamRight, at a VCR for 14 years, I never figured out how to set the goddamn clock on the thing. I would actually just... If I was doing politically incorrect and it was gonna tape, you know, it was gonna air at midnight, and I wanted to watch myself when I got home at 12.30. Yeah. No, listen, Dick Watt. I didn't have to stay up. I'd come in here to do Love Line. I would begin the taping at 9.30 that evening, get a nice six-hour tape, and then when I got home at 12.30, 12.45, I could watch myself. Of course, I've had to fast forward through 7,000 Nissan commercials and the nightly news and whatever else. Drew Carey happened to, if he has a fifth or sixth show, he decided to do, I had to get through all that garbage just to get to Yours Truly.
3:24🔗DrewDaphne's a name that's up and around the last few years.
3:26🔗AdamNo, I was just thinking. Daphne, there's once in a while, I can never think of them. You know them when you hear them. Popular names that nobody's named.
4:06🔗AdamNo, you know what drives me nuts? Here's the problem. Here's why we should never talk to the people who call. Just don't talk to them. Let them get that question out because they call up and they go, how are you all doing? I go, good. They go, how are you doing tonight? I go, good. What's the question? They go, well, I just... Then Drew pipes up and says, I've been a little depressed. Then the caller goes, could I talk?
4:34🔗AdamIt's like playing handball against the curtains. No, I've given you a couple of opportunities to spit the question out. Now, you stopped and asked, Drew spoke and now there's confusion. So here we go with the question.
4:46🔗Okay. The way that I masturbate when having sex, sex is not as gratifying as masturbation.
4:53🔗AdamYeah. It's good. It's just not the real thing that sex, right?
4:56🔗Well, no. When I masturbate, there's no penetration.
5:33🔗AdamBut here's the deal. The intercourse is like the starting pitcher and then the relief pitcher. The guy who comes in, the finisher. The guy comes in and mops up. That's the oral sex. That gets you the wind.
5:51🔗AdamThat wind, I think I said. That gets you the wind at the end of the game. So you have the intercourse for 20 minutes, a half hour, then a little oral sex and orgasm, and you both can get back to the business of watching television.
6:04🔗CallerWell, it's not that I'm having trouble orgasming during sex.
6:55🔗AdamYou don't want to have a little brood of pillow humpers. Okay.
7:00🔗DrewWhy can't you recreate whatever she did with the pillow with the guy?
7:03🔗AdamI guess she could. I mean, all a guy is is a pillow with hair on it, really. That's what my mom always told me. But here's the deal, and here's why I don't feel real sorry for Daphne. She's having the clitoral orgasms when she's on her own.
7:35🔗OK. I was wondering, with the IUDs, why doesn't Dr. Drew favor them?
7:41🔗DrewWell, you know what? I think it's a function of the history of the IUD in the years I've been training and practicing, in that there are some ones out now that are better and that may be safe, but I've seen so many disasters in my years working with young people, that it's really a hard thing for me to start recommending for someone who has not had children. So it's OK. There are some good ones out there now that look like they're going to be safe, but I remember when I was saying that before we found out they weren't. So it's hard for me to come all the way around and start really advocating them.
8:13🔗What do you mean by safe? What kind of disaster?
8:16🔗DrewThey were substantially increasing the risk of pelvic inflammatory disease, tubal infections, that sort of thing, and they dramatically increased it to infertility.
8:59🔗CallerApparently, she had a blood clot hanging from her heart on a string. One day when her, my father, and a couple of their friends went out for a walk, it just flung over into the blood passageway of her heart that surprised her body with blood killed. Our doctors had no idea that she even had this.
9:16🔗DrewSo, is an atrial mixoma, is that what she had?
9:30🔗AdamYeah. All right. Hey, listen, Amber, I'm sorry you had a difficult life, and I'd like to use you as an example for other folks that have had a difficult life, which is-
9:42🔗AdamYou are not going to make up your life through having a kid of your own. I know it feels like you are, but you're not. You'll be the same miserable person that's ill-equipped to raise a child as your parents were. Yeah. All you're going to do is perpetuate this. You'll now have another generation of screwed up siblings.
10:01🔗DrewMaybe we can make Amber like a poster child, sort of a PSA.
10:20🔗AdamWell, you know there's that sort of who could bring kids into this world kind of mentality? There is that feeling, yeah. Which only stops smart people from having kids, unfortunately. I like to keep an eye on the SAT scores about that. 18 years from today. See how that works out.
10:38🔗DrewI think it's going to be very interesting because for that first week, people that were sort of somatic and or depressed or anxious kind of got their ass together a little bit. You know, people got it together. And now I think this sort of lingering phase is people getting worse than they were before the event.
10:54🔗AdamWell, let me give you this observation. Actually, I'm making it up. I haven't really observed it, but I do observe it in you. The people who are sort of wandering around a little bit lost, a little bit depressed, and that was sort of their general state.
11:10🔗DrewDrew, be specific. Drew, your general state.
11:14🔗AdamNo, no, no, no. I'm talking about, I think your average schmo is sort of pulling himself together a little bit here. And rising to the occasion.
11:24🔗AdamAnd the six and seven figure income, jet setter, two-pager wearing cell phone on one ear, and secretary dictating into the other ear, guys like yourself are the guys who are stopping and getting a little depressed and saying, it was all about the deal, and it was all about hustling to the next gig, and your life was so exciting, so stimulating, and so fast-paced, that you actually have to pause for a second, and when people who are running constantly pause, they get depressed.
12:01🔗DrewI think it's a little more complicated than that. I think ultimately you're right, and that is that I always found meaning in my work. That I could always rely on my work to give me meaning. You know what I mean? Make me feel good. Now, it doesn't have any meaning. Nothing has meaning.
12:15🔗DrewYou know what I mean? It's all flat. So I stop, and then that makes it worse.
12:18🔗AdamYou have created a life that doesn't let you stop and think too much. Yeah. Because there's always a page to return. There's alarm going off and there's a flight to catch and there's a lot of running in your life. I think you've been probably doing a lot of reflecting and not so much running over the last few days. Folks that sit around and reflect all day, I think are less depressed. They sit and reflect anyway. Right.
12:45🔗AdamYou got a lot of distraction and a lot of movement. You're like a shark that's constantly swimming forward. When you stop swimming, it starts to feel like you're dying. You've had to stop and think. Join the rest of us, buddy. Where do you start smoking weed and wearing sweatpants?
13:03🔗AdamGoing golfing and getting loaded in the afternoon. That's when you do your thinking. Kind of thinking you do. I bet I could bang that chick who works in the clubhouse.
13:35🔗DrewIt's pretty fast, usually. It could be up. I've seen it's a little faster or slower, but around 12 hours.
13:41🔗CallerOK. All right. But yeah, it's no problem. I haven't done coke for like three months. But no, the thing is, I was in college, you know, and in February I kind of got into coke. And I'd never done anything really that serious up until then, you know, like drinking. I'd been drinking, you know, college. But you know, I got into coke in February. And then, you know, it just started building up until, you know, June, I guess, when I got home from school.
14:21🔗AdamHold on. Let me check my database. Things have been pretty backed up since the tragedy. Hold on a second. Mike, Mike from New Jersey. Mike, college is tip at bat.
14:31🔗Best Of CLL #1559Jack's off four days, four times a day.
14:42🔗CallerYeah. Actually, in like three hours, I'm headed over to a medical for the Marine Corps. Right. I was in college. I was in ROTC. After I gave it up, after I let it all out. Mike. Yeah.
14:58🔗DrewYou're going for a medical at four in the morning?
15:00🔗CallerWell, I got to drive to the recruiter's office, and he's going to drive me to Fort Hamilton. All right.
15:47🔗CallerWhat's up? Well, I've been dating this guy for about two, two and a half months, and here today, he came by and he told me, he's been telling me, he's been having to tell me a secret, and he wouldn't tell me. He told me that he's married and there's a little attachment involved in this marriage.
16:10🔗CallerWell, when we met, I asked him, I kind of had a feeling because it was a car seat in the back of his truck, and I asked him, he's like, no.
16:40🔗AdamYou know, it's funny, I was just thinking of him telling her, I got a secret, there's something we got to talk about. I'll tell you, my policy now in a relationship is-
16:51🔗AdamJust break up. Look, I didn't want to hear it. I'm leaving. Don't even bother.
16:54🔗CallerWell, yeah, that's what I keep telling him, and he says he's going to get a divorce and everything, but I don't know if I should believe what he says.
17:00🔗DrewTell him when he can show you divorce papers, then you're back. I promise you, there will be no divorce papers. If there are, great, then you're back.
17:56🔗AdamHow you doing over here? Can I see your penis? You know that Goober had to be feeling up, Floyd, I think Floyd the Barber. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
18:12🔗DrewAdam? That is funny. Only to you and me.
18:14🔗AdamOh, there's got to be someone else listening who thinks Floyd the Barber is funny.
18:54🔗CallerSee, a friend of mine had this little thing where her boyfriend was fingering her and then something happened and it hurt down there and it started bleeding. And so she's freaking out now and she wants to know what's going on.
19:04🔗DrewWell, I guess you can rupture a hymen, but that doesn't make you not a virgin.
20:34🔗AdamThe over under on you killing yourself if you had to live somewhere, Bakersfield or Riverside? Oh, the over under on Bakersfield for me is 11 days.
21:22🔗CallerI've been married for nine years, have three kids, one came with the marriage. Lately, she's been really negative towards me. I gave up a job that I'm over the road truck driver. I gave up being an over-the-road truck driver for her, which was making a pretty substantial amount of money doing that.
21:44🔗CallerWhere I leave state and spend a week or two out and then come back.
21:50🔗DrewWhat she wants you to do in one night or is that kind of thing? Yeah.
21:52🔗CallerShe wanted me more locally. The kids were getting into sports and stuff like that. So I felt obligated to do the dad thing.
22:00🔗DrewYeah. Not a bad instinct on her part, right?
22:04🔗CallerRight. I've been looking to come off the road anyway. But my problem is now that I'm home, she still can spend in the money because she's always had control of the money because I've been out on the road, of course. So she spends money and I can tell her that, look, I'm not making the same money that was out on the road. So she'll say something like, if you don't like that, get the hell out of here. You know, and, and, Oh, hold on.
22:37🔗AdamWell, that's the thing. That's the great thing about being a guy. You never know why. And I've done this a thousand times. You can't figure out why they're so angry, but they're angry and it's probably because you haven't been listening to something they've been trying to tell you.
22:50🔗DrewThat and the degree of anger, among other things, suggest depression. That irritability.
23:00🔗CallerNo. We both don't. We're occasional drinkers.
23:06🔗DrewYou really ought to have her looked into for a depression. That kind of irritability and difficult living anger, feelings of worthlessness, out of control, all that is depression.
23:15🔗CallerPlus, she doesn't like to be fondled. I've never seen her totally nude. My wife.
23:46🔗CallerI mean, we get along great. She gets along great with him.
23:50🔗AdamOkay. But here's the deal. She has some energy. If you listen to this show, you'll know someone who doesn't want to let their husband of 10 years never seen them in the nude in the course of the relationship is a little strange. A woman who does not like to be touched or fondled or rubbed upon, there's something going on. She's angry, she's hostile.
24:32🔗AdamTake care of yourself that way. When we come back, we're going to speak to Lila, she's 25. Do only white men have hairy asses? I think so, yeah.
24:46🔗AdamWell, white and I know what's speak of the devil type of thing but the Arab guys, I think, can have some hair on that ass too. There's certain dark skin, thanks, nationalities, but it ain't Mexican, it ain't Asian, it ain't black. But there's a Middle Eastern group that can have some hair on the ass.
25:50🔗AdamHey, Loveline, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew over there. All right. Let's hop back on the phones. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. I'll speak to, that's Lila, isn't it?
26:34🔗DrewYou said lots of discussions about interesting things and-
26:37🔗CallerWell, where I work night shift, so yeah. But we were just talking about, like I'm married to Polynesian, she's married to a black man, and then we have some that are in relationships with Mexican men.
26:49🔗AdamAll right. I would say, now hold on, let me rank the Polynesian, the black, and the Mexican ass.
27:09🔗AdamThey are out there. Polynesian, you don't see the hairy Polynesian guys. And Mexican can go hairy at times, too, but generally not. Probably about the same as black with the Mexicans. Give the black hair.
27:24🔗DrewWell, Polynesia wasn't even on our scale originally. We have to add them to our scale.
27:27🔗AdamWe have to add the Polynesian, and that's going to take some time to add to our database. You have to forgive us, but we'll get that up on the website real soon. So, here's the, in the ass, the hair count on the ass. I'm going to go black is the least, no, sorry, black would be the most, Mexican second, Polynesian third, out of that grouping.
27:49🔗DrewWho already sit on the very base of the hair.
27:52🔗AdamRight, now whose ass is more barren, Polynesian or Asian? Tough, tough. I think I got to go Asian.
28:02🔗AdamI got to go Asian. I got to believe there's a handful of Polynesians with hairy ass. But the Polynesians, you know they don't have a hairy ass, because they got that whole torch spinning thing, and no culture with hair on their ass would ever get in that tiki thing with the fire flying around. The guy's wearing a shammy, his balls are hanging out, he's got this fire going between his legs. No hairy cultures. I'd go up like a Roman candle.
28:28🔗AdamBe the end of the Corollas. We started spinning that flaming torch, and they're always going between the legs, you know? They lift the leg up, they're spinning it around.
28:35🔗DrewNow, you represent the Italian team, so clearly there's a strong contingent there.
28:44🔗DrewOther nationalities have similar kinds of...
28:46🔗AdamItalian men, Armenian guys, good hairy guys. Believe it or not, just the Eastern European guys can be good and hairy. It's just they're blonder. The hair's fair. It's not as big a deal. I mean, if you take an ass that has a sprinkling of blonde hair on it, it is not going to pop like that black kinky Italian Armenian type hat.
29:21🔗DrewWe're actually breaking down which nationalities amongst the Caucasians have the more serious...
29:25🔗AdamNow, what's the nationality? You know, because there's nationalities within white men, obviously, within Caucasian. What's the nationality of the white guy?
29:33🔗DrewI don't know. The representatives at your proceedings.
29:40🔗AdamWell, you got to understand just like, you know, Mexican or black or Polynesian, white, white could mean a hundred different nationalities. You don't know if the guy's Italian or Irish or English, right?
30:30🔗AdamThe biggest calves, though. Huge calves. My theory with the Polynesian ass hairs, A, they burned it all off doing the crazy tiki torch dance between the legs, out on the beach for the tourists, and B, theory is, is their calves are so goddamn big that it actually stretched the hair that was supposed to be on their ass and put it on the back of the thighs.
31:09🔗CallerFirst of all, for the guy that just called in with the problem with his wife, I was molested as a little girl. And as a result, I never told anybody, not a single soul. And as a result, I don't like for my top half to be touched. I guess that's why.
31:22🔗DrewThat's what we were telling him, that something had happened to her that made her that way.
31:25🔗CallerSo I've never, ever been totally new with a guy.
31:29🔗DrewAnd people that have those kinds of histories are at higher risk for depression.
31:32🔗CallerSo yeah, you tell me about it. I know.
31:35🔗AdamBut so when you were molested, you had your top half touched?
31:54🔗AdamYou said you don't like your top half touched.
31:56🔗CallerNo, it's weird. It's like I can deal with the bottom half, but I don't really have the greatest time having sex.
32:03🔗DrewYou know what that is? I think people who are sexually abused around that age can really disconnect from their pelvis. I mean, it's like they don't feel anything.
32:11🔗AdamIt's funny. Guys don't have a top half. We only have a bottom half. Have you ever broken yourself in the half? No, it's just the bottom.
32:18🔗CallerI didn't until I was about nine, but I was just letting him know it's probably what the problem is.
32:23🔗DrewUsually with that kind of abuse, you would be victimized again in your life, raped and that kind of thing.
32:28🔗CallerYeah. Well, that's what I'm telling you now. About two weeks ago, I have a boyfriend that's very loving, he's very caring, he's been supportive throughout the whole thing. But about two weeks ago, this guy that I knew did attack me. He did rape me.
32:43🔗CallerJust this guy that I know. We worked together and I just, you know, me and my boyfriend were having problems and he just seemed like he'd be a friend that would be there and he was there at first and then he just, you know.
33:06🔗CallerI know it was probably really stupid on me, but.
33:08🔗AdamWell, you know, and I know this sounds harsh, but having heard a lot of people on the show over the years, people who've had stuff happen to them when they were younger, like you did, their instincts are not so good.
33:25🔗AdamLater on in life, they trust the wrong people and go to the wrong places with them.
33:31🔗CallerYeah, you're gonna make me cry. That's like so true.
33:33🔗DrewBut then, this is not all your fault. Those people seem to know who you are. They find you.
33:39🔗CallerYou would think all that your instincts might be better, but mine just starts so bad.
33:43🔗DrewNo, it's all about reenacting the trauma. It's part of that is that when it happens to you, I mean, last week we all got a dose of a trauma. What we do in this phase, that kind of trauma is sort of numb up. It becomes like surreal, it's not happening. And unless we come to terms with the reality and our feelings about it, we tend to manage it in primitive kinds of ways. And one of the ways is to sort of convince yourself you deserved it. It puts you back in control of the situation. So you tend to reenact those traumas over and over again. You don't idealize people, you tend to find people who can deliver what you think about yourself.
34:16🔗AdamAll right, so anyway, you work with this guy, you trusted this guy, you went to his house for comforting, and he ended up raping you.
34:24🔗CallerYeah. Well, I told my boyfriend about it, of course, like right after it happened. And I had to, you know, so a few days later, we noticed, well, I noticed, I told my boyfriend that I was kind of having like this discharge. And I'm not a sexually active girl. You know, I've known very few people and it's not like, it's not thick or anything. And I don't have any kind of pelvic pain. And I don't have like, I'm not running a fever and it doesn't burn when I urinate. It's just kind of, I'll notice that my panties are wet.
35:42🔗DrewKimberly, you're too good of a victim to do that.
35:43🔗AdamBut here's the thing. You're calling. All right. Now, I don't want to be a prick, but you keep saying rape. I mean, you're not filing charges against a guy. You went over there.
35:56🔗CallerWell, I came home and my immediate reaction was to take a shower. And my boyfriend works night shift. And he came here and he just wanted to go kill him and all this crazy stuff. And it didn't really sink in to me. Like, at first, I didn't really tell my boyfriend the whole story. It didn't really sink in to me what had happened to me. And the more and more I thought about it, I was like, oh my god, he really did rate me. And then we called, because I immediately quit work, because I couldn't work with him anymore, obviously. So my boyfriend called, was like calling.
36:51🔗CallerBut anyways, he's in California now. Like, we called his house and we found out that he, like, knew this chick on the internet and he moved to California to be with her.
37:02🔗CallerNo, not that night. Like, right after my boyfriend, you know.
37:04🔗DrewAll right. Yeah, but why didn't you get a forensic examination? All right. Listen, you'd have an infection, a bad smelling, thin discharge is most likely to be something called trichomonas. Your boyfriend has to be treated, too. They might want to treat you also for Gardnerella, which you can sometimes do that. These are very minor infections, but they do need to be treated.
37:20🔗AdamI don't know if you've driven in from Nevada or Oregon lately, but there's a big, big sign that says welcome rapists.
37:30🔗AdamNow, we're trying to attract, you know, with a lot of the defense industry closing down and bases and military bases and whatnot, a lot of industry out here, a lot of people fleeing. We're running short on rapists here in California. After the riots, a lot of rapists went up north, a lot of other rapists headed south and toward to the east. So we're kind of short on rapists. So if you see those signs coming in, that's what we're talking about. Glad to have them.
37:59🔗DrewMost of the Southern Californians have fled. The rapists have fled to Seattle.
38:02🔗AdamRight. God willing. We'll take a break. We'll be back.
39:12🔗I was just listening to your conversation about hairy men, and Drew said that the Scandinavian men seem to be more hairless, and I had to call because my husband is Norwegian, and he is the hairiest man I've ever seen.
39:28🔗AdamLaura, I didn't want to cut Drew off when he was on a bit of a roll, but yes, I agree with you. The Scandinavian guys can be hairy, but it's fair hair, and it doesn't have the...
39:41🔗No, his hair is dark, dark, dark brown, but it's really, really soft. It's not coarse. But he's got tons of it, and it's very, very dark, but his skin's really pale, and his eyes are pale.
39:54🔗AdamYeah, that's true. You know the guys I like, the guys who have to shave their neck and then figure out where to stop, because their neck connects to their chest, right? And it's great when you see him at the beach or something, they have that ring, that white ring. It's like they're wearing a sweater, right? Because they've shaved a ring around their neck.
40:14🔗Yeah, he's the same way. And his hair goes down the back of his neck, and in the summertime when I shave his neck for him, they'll have a white spot and the rest of his body will be brown where the hair isn't.
40:26🔗AdamIt's a bitch, all that hair. But you know the thing, but no hair on the ass, and that's the thing that's strange about me, no hair on the back, not too much on the front, I mean just sort of average, maybe a little lighter than average on front, a good, none, not in all the usual places.
40:45🔗AdamI got the forearm thing going, but if people saw my ass, they would think you'd not be able to find my spine amongst the hair. You see what I'm saying? The hair, you think it'd be all over the, I'm showing Drew.
41:35🔗DrewYeah, they're much more directed towards a relationship than sex. And if sex comes along, they're good with it. That's fine. But sex becomes more part of the experience of intimacy.
41:45🔗CallerWell, I get scared because I hear stories about people who get older, get married, and then 30 years later, the wives just don't want to have sex with them.
41:52🔗Drew30 years later? No, no, that's when they want to have sex with you.
41:55🔗AdamIt's the guys who don't want to have sex then.
41:57🔗DrewYeah, the testosterone levels start going up, estrogen starts dropping a little bit, and yeah, later on is when things heat up a little bit for women, they find more specific satisfaction with sex.
42:07🔗CallerI don't suppose there's any way to differentiate who's gonna have more of a sex drive when they get older.
42:12🔗DrewYou mean pick a particular woman that's...
42:15🔗AdamPolynesian men, because they have less hair in their ass, will have a stronger sex drive as they grow older because they'll not be weighted down by the hair on the ass. Hey, Matt, you're thinking way too much at 18. You're freaking yourself out. Just relax. All right. All right. You find... Listen, there's plenty of women that like sex at 18, but it is true, you're not gonna get that... You're not gonna find that energy at 18. I would say it's really at an all-time low at 18 for women.
43:15🔗CallerOh, not much, basically. I go to law school in the evenings, and I don't know, I'm about halfway through with law school. I just feel like really jaded, man. I'm just like, you know, I hang around with these people that are just so freaking arrogant and stuck up, you know, bastards, that it's just kind of like, you know, I don't feel like I should be here.
43:36🔗DrewYou mean law school or just your friends?
43:38🔗CallerNo, just in law school. You know, I don't consider any of these people to be my friends. It's just kind of like, you know, they've screwed in my head so much that I can't seem to focus on the school portion of it.
44:03🔗CallerBecause they're in law school, because they're going to be lawyers one day or because, you know, they're out there in the business world and they're making the good big bucks.
44:10🔗CallerWell, you know, in law school, you got your day students who are just like the kids, and you got the evening students, and you got the master professionals that just come to law school to become even better professionals.
44:19🔗AdamWell, who wants you to be a lawyer, Josh?
44:22🔗CallerI want to be a lawyer, but I don't want to be in like an arrogant prick kind of lawyer. I just want to be like, you know.
44:26🔗AdamWell, I'm sorry. There's no such thing as a non-errogant prick type of lawyer.
44:52🔗DrewYou see what Adam's going at is that you seem unhappy with what you're doing and who you're around.
44:57🔗CallerYou know, I get some sense of that, but I think more than anything else, it's kind of like, I like what I'm doing because this is what I've always wanted to do. I've always wanted to argue. I've always wanted to be in a position.
45:08🔗DrewYou know what I suspect? I just think you've got a little community of students there that maybe just timing wasn't right or maybe you'll find out that more lawyers are like this than you know. I don't know.
45:18🔗DrewThey don't make you happy. The fact is, but you can still get a law degree and go do what you want to do with it and feel satisfied. This will be, you'll sort of look at it because this is serving your time.
45:39🔗AdamArrogant pricks, that's what you get. Now, our business, the entertainment business, attracts stupid arrogant pricks. At least in law school, you got guys with some brain cells who are arrogant. We have really stupid guys who are arrogant, which is a horrible combination, and they're pricks, okay? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's right. Now, we get along fine, and here's what you got to do. You got to get your training, do your business, make your money, but don't hang out with these people, don't make a life with these people, and it's a work thing.
46:13🔗CallerHere's the problem, okay? The reason, one of the reasons why I hate them so much is because it seems like they have the power to exclude. It's kind of like, you know, my first year, we used to all go out drinking after class and stuff like that, have a good time. You know, I wasn't into it in the beginning because it wasn't very much of a drinker, and they were, and I used to watch these people make asses of themselves while they, you know, drank and they got drunk and everything like that. So I was like, you know what, let me get into it, let me kind of just like, you know, just hang out, hang loose and stuff like that. But the times that I went out with them and hang loose and had a good time and got drunk and got like stupid, you know, all that, for some reason they didn't want to get drunk and they just wanted to make, you know.
46:51🔗DrewThis is either all about Josh, there's something there.
46:53🔗AdamJosh is, Josh got a nice streak of prick in him too, that he's got to take a look at.
46:58🔗DrewYeah, different kind. But here's the old Josh, they're people too, and they try to be empathic and understand them, and don't sit and joke. Contempt is not a good thing.
47:06🔗AdamLook, idiot, they're pricks, don't hang out with them, Drew, seriously, we did Loveline, the TV show, for the four years. Yes. Did I ever see anybody outside of that studio ever?
47:16🔗DrewNo, but they all thought you were the prick though.
47:18🔗AdamThat's right, but that was fine, because I didn't want to hang out, right?
47:22🔗AdamThere you go, went home, hung out with my idiots, who I used to pee on. There you go. Thank you, Josh needs to do the same. Bye bye. Hey, Loveline, y'all. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Sunday night, we're going to be dedicating the show to discussing the topic of tolerance, but it won't necessarily be a completely tolerant show. Right. They won't all be politically correct views. Right.
48:49🔗DrewI think we ought to completely explore the issues. You can start it off, Adam, with discussions about ass hair. That's clearly the direction you'd like to take it.
48:58🔗AdamI'd like to weave in a few Pollock jokes at the time.
49:01🔗DrewNo, your dismay at them being less common than they used to.
49:05🔗AdamWell, ironically, the only Pollock joke I remember is the Pollock terrorist joke.
49:24🔗AdamI mean, it's okay. Some poor taste at this time, but that's the only Pollock joke I remember.
49:30🔗DrewI can remember in, like, 1962. Suddenly everything became PC. Or, remember about 64. We were not allowed to tell Pollock jokes. My family, my uncle suddenly went, no, it's Silly Billy from now on. Silly Billy? What did the Silly Billy do when...
49:48🔗DrewDoesn't roll off the tongue quite as nice.
49:49🔗AdamDid you hear about the Silly Billy terrorist who tried to blow up the bus?
49:52🔗DrewWhen I first heard that, I was like, I was like, shakin. What?
49:56🔗AdamNo, Silly Billy. You should have kicked your uncle right in the nuts for that Silly Billy. No. And you know, it's funny, you've talked to Polish people and you ask them who the, you know, the Polish Pollocks are, basically. They'll say like, they got their own. It's like the Hungarians or something.
50:15🔗AdamThat's what I'd like to do. I would really like to find out in the, in the, in, you know, when all the Pollock jokes were going on out here, like in the 70s, 80s.
50:47🔗CallerUm, I've been seeing a guy, which I'm really pretty serious about. We're talking about getting married for probably a little over a year now. And for some reason, he just all of a sudden has no sex drive.
51:14🔗CallerHe's been working for his dad. He hadn't been working there for a while. And he, um, he just now started working for his dad. So I'm not sure actually what he does.
52:27🔗AdamAll right. Hold on. I just don't like her attitude. I don't like that she's so indignant that I want to know what this guy's doing. The reason we're asking because this guy's, when you start getting a little strung out, you get a little stressed out, you lose a little sleep, and you start putting in some serious hours, that's like the first thing that goes.
52:48🔗AdamIt's close to it. You want to, well, Drew, you're a passionate man, so that doesn't go for you. But for me, if I start getting strung out and I start getting tired, I get home, I want to chill. Like, I don't want any contact. I just want to watch TV for an hour and go to bed.
53:06🔗DrewThere is that guy. There's a certain number of guys that really profoundly react that way. When they get a little stressed, they want to be like a bear. They want to be left alone. You know what I mean? They get irritable. Right.
53:16🔗AdamThey're in a place, the phone's ringing, people are coming at them, and then they come home and they want to crack a beer and be left alone on the sofa. Trying to figure out what the guy did or what he was.
53:27🔗DrewWhat he does, A, is critical to assessing whether or not that could be the reason.
53:31🔗AdamB, no, it's not what he does that's critical, but is he putting in a 70 or 80 hour week, or is he putting in a 25 hour week?
53:40🔗DrewIt's critical. But the other thing is, the fact that she has no idea what he does all day suggests something about their relationship.
53:47🔗AdamShe's thinking about getting married to him.
53:49🔗DrewTo a guy that doesn't know what he does, what he's doing.
53:51🔗AdamI'm just a prick, but I don't like the fact that she gets hostile when I start asking questions. Chandra?
54:29🔗CallerBecause he's living, like, farther away from me. And so he comes up and we spend the whole weekend together, usually every weekend.
54:37🔗DrewThis doesn't feel or sound right to me. Something is wrong. Something is wrong.
54:42🔗AdamIt seems like you should know, I don't know, more about him.
54:45🔗DrewYeah, I should know how he spends his week. You should be in more contact with him. And he should be interested in you. He should be very interested in you after a week when he comes and sees you.
54:52🔗CallerThat's what I'm curious about. It's like he treats me so much more like, you know, when he thinks I'm asleep, he just sits there and he rubs my hair and looks at me and he'll whisper that he loves me when he doesn't think I'm knowing. But it's like when it comes to the whole sex, he's just, like, he's tired. Like, it seems like he loves me so much more than he ever really seemed to before.
55:14🔗DrewWell, sometimes guys put on a big show and there's something wrong, you know, they feel guilty.
55:18🔗AdamWell, no, also guys too can have a woman, and Drew wouldn't know this because he's a passionate, passionate man, but sometimes a woman can go from a strange sex partner to love, you know, and it becomes a little, it becomes stranger depending on what the guy's love making habits are.
55:42🔗AdamIf he's a guy who likes to just hump the bejesus out of somebody, it's hard to hump the bejesus out of your potential wife. You want to make love to her, but you're not a guy who makes love. Do you know what I'm saying? Is he a, is he a humper?
55:54🔗CallerWell, usually he just leaves me in charge.
56:04🔗CallerNot on occasion, I guess if I wanted him to, you know, but it was usually the me on top sort of thing.
56:10🔗DrewWell, that's fine. But do you initiate it also?
56:13🔗CallerYeah. I mean, it looks like it's a mutual thing. And then until we're doing this and then he's just, he seems like he's kind of in another world. Like, he's not really, okay, he doesn't seem like he wants me.
56:26🔗AdamAll right. I know. And you feel you feel insecure about it. I understand. I think just talk to him. Yeah, I know. Don't freak him out. But just talk to him. He's fixing to head into the Navy. He may be, oh, yeah, he may be reeling it in a little bit.
56:56🔗DrewJust careful for these sort of desperation marriage and attempt to try to hold it together while he goes out to sea.
57:02🔗AdamBut go ahead and talk to him. And while you're talking to him, ask him what kind of club his dad owns. And what he does at work. Kyle? Yeah. You're 15? Right. What's up? Hey, Adam. Hey. Love you, man. Love you, Kyle.
57:52🔗DrewYeah, you've done imitations of Adam before, right? He's the guy who does the double, the ferret on double cappuccino, right?
57:57🔗AdamI don't know. Kyle, do you do an Adam Corolla impersonation? No, I don't know what he's talking about. All right. All right. Good times, buddy. Oh, yeah.
59:11🔗CallerWell, he was talking about building this box, this like steel box, and making it like soundproof, and like he'd put a hole through it, so I could like be able to breathe, but like tie me up in there, like handcuff me in there and stuff, and he'd like put a hose through there, so that I could still breathe and stuff. But I told him that kind of freaked me out a little bit.
59:38🔗DrewI'm not sure that's no longer domination, that's now murder.
59:43🔗AdamAt a certain point, once he puts a cork in the air hole, it becomes murder, yes. He wants you in the box, though. He doesn't want to get in the box.
59:51🔗CallerRight. Well, he's more- he's a dominant one.
59:56🔗AdamWell, you get to be in a box with an air hole, bro. Use your brain.
1:00:00🔗CallerIt just would make the submissive person just completely helpless.
1:00:06🔗AdamWhen does the- and by the way, if you're going to be submissive, let's get something done. Like how about you detail my van, bitch? You know what I mean? Like if I'm going to be the dominant one, that's what I'm doing. On the way to the van, you grab me a beer and go detail it. You know what I mean? Don't sit in a box.
1:00:24🔗DrewBut why act out- why reenact the trauma of powerlessness over and over and over?
1:00:31🔗CallerWell, for me, I don't know. It just would turn me on to be-
1:00:37🔗DrewSee, what I think that is is some kind of an arousal you had around the age of five that etches in that need for arousal later in life as a way of experiencing your sexuality. And powerlessness is actually a reenactment of the only way you know how to feel validated and in control again. You feel like you deserve it. You need this in order to give a validation of your sense of yourself as needing that powerlessness, causing that powerlessness, and being in the control of this idealized bigger than life other, which is all BS. And it's all driven by this arousal mechanism that gets etched into your brain when you're five years old.
1:01:26🔗CallerIn my everyday life, I'm a very assertive type of person.
1:01:30🔗AdamFine, you're still screwed up. But look, here's the deal. And look, with the everyday life thing, you know how a lot of these serial killers get away with their serial killing for years and years and years, because their dads and their clowns and their citizens and their colleagues and stuff, yes, they have great everyday lives and then they go out and do horrific things on the weekends at night. This is the same thing with you people. Not that you're serial killers, but the fact that you get along every day is not a great excuse for your sanity.
1:01:57🔗DrewIt's a fragmented piece of yourself that you keep walled off and disincorporated, disenfranchised from the rest of yourself.
1:02:03🔗AdamThat being said, if you're not hurting anybody and it floats your boat, what the hell, but where did you meet this guy?
1:02:09🔗DrewI'm concerned this guy is actually going to harm you though. That's why I'm sort of going down that path with you.
1:02:27🔗DrewWhat makes you think he's not a murderer?
1:02:28🔗AdamWhere do you guys eat? Like medieval times or something? I mean, you can't just eat at TGI. Fridays, can you? I mean, you got to eat at a place that's got some leather and stuff in it, right? No. Okay, and do you think he's constructed this box already?
1:02:46🔗CallerNo, he hasn't. He just says it's one of his ideas.
1:02:49🔗CallerHe has a shop and he'd like to build it, but he hasn't built it already.
1:02:54🔗AdamAnd do you think there may be a love connection with this guy?
1:03:10🔗Best Of CLL #1559I'll do the radio math here.
1:03:12🔗Adam156. Here's the point. How's he going to get your big ass in that box? That's what I'm worried about. Well, he'll check your dimensions and build a box accordingly.
1:03:20🔗DrewHe's going to leave it there for a few weeks.
1:03:21🔗AdamAll right, Tasha, listen. Go out to dinner with the guy in a nice public place. But here's the deal. Don't get into any kind of situation where you're going back to his pad, having a few tall boys, and climbing into a box that he has control over. Do you understand?
1:03:44🔗AdamRight. Do you have any friends you can say, you know, here's where I'm going to be and I need you to call me at a certain time or something like that?
1:03:51🔗DrewGod, I wouldn't even do that. Oh my God.
1:03:53🔗AdamWell, listen, why don't you tell your dad, listen, I'm going to this.
1:04:03🔗AdamHere's what you do. Natasha, you say, listen, dad, I'm going to this guy I met on the internet. He's got this veal crate. I'm going to go in. Don't worry. There's an air hole just big enough so he can fit his penis through it and I'm going to be in there.
1:04:15🔗DrewWhen his penis is going through, I won't be able to breathe. There will be no oxygen.
1:04:34🔗AdamOkay, but I don't think you're going to talk her out of the behavior so let's be safe about it. You understand what I'm saying? Talk to your friends. Make sure they know where you are. Tell them, if you don't call them by a certain time that they're going to need to come by or call the authorities or whatever it is.
1:04:55🔗AdamWell, yeah, but at least they can recover the body quickly. That's the important part. All right, listen, I don't know what to say to someone who meets a guy on the internet and wants to go climb into a sex box. I'd like to tell them not to do it.
1:05:09🔗AdamDon't do it. And let me tell you something about you submissives and dominance and all these, you jackoffs. You guys are screwed up, screwed up as hell. Maybe the swingers are all screwed up. You're all screwed up. I know it's a lifestyle. I know you carry, you have jobs. I know you're not serial killers and you're not racist and it's a choice you're making and so on and so forth. You are royally screwed up. You're as effed up as the guys who were men trapped inside a woman's body or women trapped inside a man's body. You're as effed up as all these other idiots. Just look in the mirror, please. That's all I'm saying.
1:05:47🔗DrewWhen we had those dominatrixes in here, remember that?
1:06:47🔗CallerBut like, I just, I don't want people like know, you know?
1:06:51🔗DrewYeah, but they won't know. You'll be going confidentially to talk to someone at your school.
1:06:56🔗CallerWell, yeah. But I mean, who do I talk to? Because there's like counselors, but all they do is scheduling.
1:07:00🔗DrewWell, you must have some sort of mental health person there. Schools have that. I'm just asked to talk to that person, tell them what's going on. That's where you go.
1:07:08🔗CallerYeah. Okay. But I also have another question.
1:07:38🔗CallerAbout everything, like, um, like mostly school, like, I don't know, about like this like super great sister and I guess I'm just not good enough for them, you know.
1:07:50🔗DrewSo she's got the eating disorder and you cut.
1:07:52🔗CallerNo, no, she's all my other family and they're all perfect.
1:07:58🔗AdamNo, but look, the fact that you're 16 and that you actually want to get some therapy, it's a great impulse.
1:08:04🔗CallerYeah, but I have like, like, okay, they're kind of like turned off from the whole therapy thing because like around February, I've been doing this for like a long time. And but like since February, and we went to and tried to find a therapist around February. But I mean, this guy, he like didn't really help us. I mean, he sat there and he listened. But he didn't like do anything. And then my parents like took me out of it because and I mean, it's like, hello. I mean, if you want some help, you got to stick in it for a little bit.
1:08:31🔗DrewThat's right. But all they're going to do is sit there and listen. You'll be used to that because that's what they're doing.
1:08:38🔗AdamIt was like my dad. I know. But people don't understand that about a therapist. I had a therapist who actually had died four months earlier.
1:08:48🔗AdamI still continued and he continued billing. I don't know how that worked out. But I continued showing up. And eventually the stink got so bad that I went over and actually touched him on a suede. You know, where's the jacket with the suede sleeves on it? He fell over his maggot, eating his spine.
1:09:20🔗AdamYeah, he willed himself dead. I started into a high school football store and he willed himself to death. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we'll speak to Michael. He's 19 and the dominatrix thing, and he disagreed with Drew.
1:09:38🔗DrewNo, he just wants to know what the dominatrix has talked about, how they felt about that issue when they came in here.
1:09:49🔗Call 1-800-LOVE-191. Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back.
1:10:23🔗AdamHey, y'all. Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Well, I'll tell you, Drew and I have not been going to the bathroom tonight.
1:11:50🔗CallerMy question was, you know, the last caller, when she called in and she wanted to get into it, you were saying that, you know, all these people, they've just got some experience that happened when they were young, which, you know, skews them towards this.
1:12:03🔗DrewYeah, it etches this arousal mechanism in their head and their brain.
1:12:07🔗CallerOkay. I always thought it was more of, you know, like CEOs, they're always in power. They can squish anyone under their thumb.
1:12:13🔗DrewYeah, but there's a reason people need to build that kind of sense of self, which is all-powerful. It's a compensation for feeling little and out of control. And then they go out, and when their sexual and their arousal mechanisms are all geared into that powerlessness experience, so they gotta go feel that again in order to be aroused.
1:12:30🔗CallerI see. You are right, of being the cause, and I can see how you're saying that's more the effect.
1:12:35🔗DrewYeah, yeah. It's more that they go together. They go together because of... You need to build yourself up to compensate for that feeling of being inadequate or less than or out of control.
1:12:45🔗AdamRight. That's what gets you the penthouse office.
1:12:48🔗CallerIt wouldn't make sense unless everything was a cycle, because that's all the modern theories.
1:12:52🔗AdamBut it is very true, and it's something I've always known, which is all the guys I've toiled out in the dirt with for all the years I had normal jobs, never for a second wanted to get in to be dominated. They wanted to dominate, because their life was being dominated. Right. You know, they were picking up someone's crap for a living and digging a ditch and all, you know, humping lumber. Their whole life sucked. Their idea of a good time was a bunch of hookers catering to them. You know what I'm saying?
1:13:25🔗CallerThat's what I was saying. Yeah, it seemed like that they're in that lifestyle, all those experiences, you know, really made it that that's the start of it. So it didn't make sense to me when I was hearing this stuff about something happened when they were younger.
1:13:38🔗AdamWell, there's, I believe, and this may change from man to woman, too, quite a bit, Drew.
1:13:49🔗AdamBut here's, that's it. No, what I'm saying is the experience because a man and a woman's role is slightly different in this society, that a man might go through a different experience to arrive into this submissive place than a woman. Do you know what I'm saying?
1:14:09🔗DrewI just, based on the way the brain develops, it's all got to be some kind of arousal mechanism.
1:14:14🔗AdamI'm saying the CEO of the Fortune 500 company who pays a chick $200 an hour to stuff a pacifier in his mouth and beat his ass with a switch may have had a different experience than the woman who wants to be locked up in the veal crate and have the hose with the air hole in it.
1:14:35🔗AdamAnd by the way, let me explain something. If you're in a box that's airtight, you can just put a hole in it. You don't actually need the hose. The air does not have to be shipped in. You know what I'm saying? You don't need to run the hose out the window or anything. You can actually just leave it open. Just as much, as great a volume of air will get in. Mary Jane?
1:14:59🔗CallerNothing much. Yeah, I was just calling because I don't think being a dominatrix is such a bad thing. I worked as one for about six months. And I find it to be good therapy for a lot of different things and a safe way to have eroticness without sexually transmitted diseases or anything without effect.
1:15:40🔗DrewIf it were therapeutic, they would grow away from it. They'd grow through it and finish and grow out, as opposed to need to repeat it over and over again.
1:15:48🔗CallerWell, not everyone uses it on a regular basis. I mean, some people go see a psychiatrist once a week. Some people go see a dominatrix once a week. And some people do it like just every now and then as an erotic situation.
1:16:01🔗AdamYeah. I don't think there's a whole lot of now and then-ers in the dominatrix scene. I think you're either in or out with it. I think it's like gay. I don't, you know, blow a guy once twice a year. I blow one every night. You know what I'm saying, honey?
1:16:18🔗CallerWell, no. I think it's good to get a little whippin on then.
1:16:21🔗AdamI know you do, but you're a little bit screwy.
1:16:24🔗CallerNo, I'm not. You have no idea, you know, anything about me. I'm a very normal person. I find Dominatrix, I mean, in the SM community, anything to access is evil.
1:16:36🔗CallerAnd that goes with anything. And if you just keep it on a nice, you know, happy, fun, friendly level, it's just playing. It's like kids playing.
1:16:48🔗CallerAnd it's a lot less dangerous than orgies and swingers parties where people are just, you know, doing all different kinds of people, not even, you know, half the time using condoms, half the time not.
1:17:00🔗DrewMary Jane, we agree with you 100%, but that's also people acting out. And it's acting out in more dangerous ways. We're not judging, you know, if you enjoy it.
1:17:17🔗AdamI've Mary Jane. Look, it's, I don't, I would rather people go in there and have a safe sexual release than have unsafe sex. I agree with you on that. I think it's fine to do once in a while and it's all good. I don't have a big problem with it. I think the people are screwed up in their whack jobs, but they pay their bills, they pay their taxes, and they can do what they want on their Friday nights.
1:17:44🔗CallerWell, I will agree, there's a huge amount of sick individuals, I mean, especially in LA. There's definitely a sexual, like, ex test, there's a ton of sex industries in this town. And anything, you know, done too much is harmful, but, you know, dominatrix-ness and, you know, S&M is just as harmful as, you know, any other type of industry. So, you know, it's all equal and everyone should, you know, just be safe about everything.
1:18:09🔗AdamAll right, everything's equal. Good times. Well, that's one thing we've learned this week. Everything is equal. We're all the same.
1:18:22🔗AdamIt's all the same. It's all equal. Everything's the same. We don't know. All cultures are the same. All religions are the same. Everything's the same. Everything's equal. There's good and bad and everything. It's all the same. You could go to church. That's your thing. I like to climb in the veal box and get the penis shoved through the air hole.
1:18:44🔗AdamWell, we can't judge. There's no judging. Everything's equal.
1:18:47🔗DrewNo, listen. It doesn't help. Here's the problem. You can judge, but you sit in judgment and A, you've not accomplished anything. And B, you're not going to be able to come to an understanding of what motivates these people or help them.
1:18:58🔗AdamI just want to make sure that they know that they're screwed up.
1:20:09🔗Best Of CLL #1559As you know, I'm a self-proclaimed genius, right?
1:20:12🔗AdamHere's the deal. This thing ain't going to last, you and this girl. I know you think it's going to last, but it ain't. It shouldn't last. You're 18 years old, for Christ's sake.
1:20:22🔗CallerOh, yeah. And I'm not even worried about it lasting. I know it's not going to last more than like six more months.
1:20:26🔗AdamGood. That'd be fine. Just understand that. She's got some energy, and I'm telling you, she's got some serious energy. And that energy is going to eventually derail the relationship. And that's fine because someone will head off to college and you'll go separate ways, and it's all good. Meanwhile, you can get a nice threesome under your belt. So what I'm saying to you is this thing ain't going to last anyway, you might as well get the threesome. This is like, look, if you're going to get fired from the job, you might as well try to steal some supplies on your way out. Like everybody else. You're getting canned anyway. That's what I'm saying. And I'm not saying she's going to can you, but we know she's got energy.
1:21:11🔗DrewForget you talked to this radio station tonight.
1:21:13🔗DrewI just realized that right on, enjoy good times. Same thing.
1:21:18🔗AdamAll you 18-year-old screwballs who think this is it, are you should be at 18, Drew, and you tell me if I'm exaggerating one iota, at the age of 18 as a male.
1:21:32🔗AdamAnd let me define a serious relationship first. Monogamous with a woman who you assume you're in love with for at least a period of six months.
1:21:44🔗DrewWhat about it? Is it going to last? Shut up. Should it last?
1:21:46🔗AdamNo, shut up. At 18, you should be between six and 10 of those relationships away from marriage.
1:21:59🔗DrewYou are absolutely correct. Get 17 from 17 on.
1:22:02🔗Adam17 on, you should be between six and 10 of those, at least six months with someone you're monogamous with, who you think you have pretty strong feelings for.
1:22:57🔗AdamHey, everybody, it's Loveline. All right, let's hop back to the phones here and keep this train rolling. Hey, Drew, I got to do that lightning round tomorrow night. I was talking about doing it tonight, last night. Yeah, you just struck me.
1:23:12🔗DrewYou can't do it tonight because you got so off on your car discussion.
1:23:15🔗AdamYeah, I wasted a lot of energy during the break. Shauna?
1:23:44🔗CallerOkay, here's my question. I'm 18 now. I have a son who's a little over a year and a half old. I got pregnant when I was 15, and at the time I was basically on the streets doing a lot of speed.
1:24:00🔗CallerI quit doing everything as soon as I found out I was pregnant and went to the doctor, and they told me, through doing my measurements and stuff, that I was actually a month more pregnant than I thought I was.
1:24:22🔗CallerBecause what had happened was I had my period that first month, but it was like a day and a half long. But that had happened to me before because I spent a lot of time not eating for a week at a time.
1:24:36🔗CallerIs there going to be any effects to my baby from this? And if so, when will I be able to tell?
1:24:44🔗DrewYou should be able to tell right away if there are going to be any significant effects. And what I've been reading lately about the children of stimulant users during pregnancy is that by first grade they're tending to catch up with their peers.
1:25:44🔗AdamJust got a feeling. Hey, Shauna? Yeah. Yeah, you sound like somebody who's been through a lot but is... are firmly planted now. Oh, thank you. I think that's a nice base. Good. And no more kids.
1:25:59🔗DrewCareful in relationships. Relationships will get... Your age particularly can really derail your recovery, so be very, very careful with that, right?
1:27:24🔗AdamPhil Collins is singing No More. Yeah, your boyfriend's getting a vasectomy.
1:27:28🔗CallerGood. Like really soon, it's like next week or something.
1:27:32🔗DrewYou might have two more kids in the meantime. What's going on? What's your question?
1:27:39🔗CallerI never want to have sex with him. I'm totally like, I think the sex is so gross all the time. I'm not even like turned on or anything anymore.
1:28:33🔗AdamHow can you even think about that? My boyfriend does flooring for a living, for Christ's sake.
1:28:36🔗DrewHow can sex even enter into your brain? And you're depressed.
1:28:40🔗CallerHe, like, wants to have sex, like, all the time.
1:28:43🔗DrewYeah, he's a 19-year-old male. You're a 19-year-old female with three kids.
1:28:48🔗AdamOkay. Hey, Maddie, you sound pretty gregarious for a depressed Hungarian. So, I'm glad you're happy, and I really want you to focus on those kids, and I want you to be part of focusing on those kids as not being a depressed mommy. So, you need to look into that.
1:29:05🔗DrewYou may need some treatment for depression, and remember that many of the antidepressant medications can make sexual functioning even worse. So, you want to think about talking to your doctor about serosone, wellbutrin, or remeron.
1:29:18🔗AdamAll right. I know people don't like me to speak this way, and Drew doesn't like to admit it, but doesn't it just boil down to stupidity at a certain point?
1:29:31🔗AdamAnd not only for Madey's situation, but her boyfriend. Where you're working, laying, installing flooring for a living, lucky if you got a dental plan through work, and you got three kids cranked out at age 19. That to me is sort of beyond stupid, because stupid is not knowing the capitals to a certain degree. You know, there's many forms of stupid, but that is stupid to the core. The marrow of your bone is dumb.
1:30:05🔗DrewNo common sense. You mean, no ability to judge that this would be inappropriate or un-
1:30:10🔗AdamYeah, it's like ultra stupid. It's not that kind of stupid when, you know, Howard Stern interviews playmates, and they can't, they don't know if Kennedy was assassinated or not. You know, that's a kind of a stupid, but this is, this is to the core stupid.
1:30:28🔗DrewWe call this lack of insight. No insight. No understanding their behavior is inappropriate or is harmful to them or others.
1:30:37🔗AdamYou got two kids, you're 17 and a half, 18, and you're not using a condom. You're still pulling out.
1:31:11🔗AdamHold on a second. I know this sounds like I'm beating the same drum over and over again. But is there anyone, even though we live in the United States and we're talking about some of our civil liberties maybe being encroached upon, the profiling, ethnic profiling, maybe being checked, wiretaps on phones. Is there anyone that thinks that part of that could slide into, hey, you're 19 and you got three kids and you're not married and your hubby don't have any health insurance? What about that?
1:31:45🔗AdamI wouldn't mind, I wouldn't mind starting with that. That's fine. I could see us losing that liberty. All right. Let's, and by the way, not everything's a liberty. That ain't a liberty. You effing up three kids is not a liberty. Sarah?
1:33:03🔗AdamI know you do. I know you really like him, but can you understand that he's kind of flawed that he has a fiance who's pregnant and he's at the pool hall? Well, they broke up. He dumped on her is what he did.
1:33:16🔗AdamThey broke up is he ran from his responsibility. He knocked up some chick and he took off and he went to a pool hall and they met another chick and he's 20 and you're underage and now he's up with another chick and...
1:33:40🔗DrewYeah, he got another one coming and you're the next sort of bullseye that he's going after.
1:33:45🔗CallerI don't know how to tell him it's over.
1:33:47🔗DrewHe never started. You had one date. Just not be available. We don't have a date really. We went out to the lake. Alright, you're not available anymore.
1:33:53🔗AdamYou're not into him. Fine. You're 17, honey. This guy's going to be like an anvil tied around your waist and you can just jump into the bay with him. This guy's a loser white trash. Get your grades up and go to college and don't get pregnant and stay out of this guy's sights, alright? Don't go to school. I know you're depressed but this guy's penis is not going to cure you. Thank you. We'll take a break.
1:34:16🔗CallerAlright guys, bottom line, here's the deal. Looking to hook up, sick of wasting time with the wrong person, one call is all you need to make. Call the Dateline.
1:35:00🔗AdamYeah, well, there it is. Done with another fabulous Loveline episode. I want to thank you all for listening, and we'll be back in a very short 22 hours.
1:35:20🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.