0:55🔗VoiceoverFor an adult audience, Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content. Listener discretion is advised. Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.
1:13🔗VoiceoverTip, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla. That's my friend, partner, and sometimes a lover. Dr. Drew over there. Not lately. No, no, no. He's been on this period. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. Rob Schneider will be in here tomorrow night. You know, Rob, from all his years on SNL and the new movie, Animal, The Animal.
1:45🔗AdamAll right. That is coming out, I'm guessing, this Friday. So Rob will be in here tomorrow and it'll be good to see him because we haven't seen him in a while. And tonight we will take a whole s-load of phone calls. Tenille?
2:00🔗CallerWell, I took the morning after pill yesterday. I took the first cycle at 10 a.m. and the second cycle at 10 p.m. And then this evening around 6 o'clock, I started having this really horrible pain above my left hip and then all of a sudden I started having really severe cramping. I'm not bleeding or anything, but it's worse than any pain that I've ever had with menstrual cramps.
2:22🔗DrewInteresting. Have you been nauseated or anything?
2:25🔗CallerNo, not at all. No stomach cramps, no nothing.
2:36🔗CallerNo, no problems at all. I used to have really severe cramping between the time that I had my first child and my second child and I had my second child eight months ago.
3:09🔗CallerI take a medication called Tegretol. It's an anticonvulsant and typically they put me on really high levels of birth control pills and even then it's not guaranteed by any large percentage to work because the Tegretol counteracts the birth control.
3:24🔗AdamSo does the morning after pill work with the Tegretol?
3:29🔗AdamWhy would it work if the birth control is not working?
3:32🔗DrewWell, again, birth control pill is supposed to be close to 100% effective. Probably knocking down around 95% with the Tegretol.
3:39🔗CallerAnd I had preeclampsia this last time. I was in the hospital for three weeks and almost died with my second child. She was nine weeks early and was in NICU for five weeks. So I'm really concerned about having another baby.
3:50🔗DrewSure. I just think you're going to have a little mid-cycle bleeding here. And that's probably what the cramping is all about. I wouldn't worry about it.
3:55🔗CallerYou think it could just... So I shouldn't be worried about going to the doctor?
3:57🔗DrewWell, the one thing, if... I guess if you get bleeding... God, it's kind of a tricky question. Because the one thing this could be is an ectopic pregnancy. And the morning after pill wouldn't really do anything to affect or change or prevent an ectopic pregnancy.
4:13🔗AdamYeah, but that's when the baby gets lodged in the tube or something.
4:17🔗DrewRight, and if she had already ovulated...
4:22🔗DrewThat's what I'm going through in my head, is whether that's even possibly the case. Let's see if she bleeds tomorrow. Should she be worried about that?
4:27🔗AdamYou know, she's a 25-year-old woman. You know what I was thinking? You know how I always talk about what trouble the vagina is?
4:46🔗AdamNo, just a part, one part from an old person that needed constant upkeep. Because, you know what I mean? It's like you have a very, you know, the female body, not that much different than the male body, everything's fine, and then there's that one part, constant attention. It would be like you having, like the elbow and hand of an 85-year-old person.
5:10🔗DrewHow about just give yourself an 80-year-old prostate? Now it's game on. They always say you don't want a female genital tract before the age of 15, you don't want a male after 50.
5:30🔗CallerMy husband's on the line too. We've been separated for a while, probably four months already. We've been having problems and they're just getting, I guess, worse.
6:24🔗CallerOh, I thought she was talking to another guy, and that was it. And she sorted me up and down. She wasn't, but she was. And what else am I supposed to- I mean, I questioned everything else.
7:17🔗DrewYeah, why don't you behave like you love him?
7:18🔗CallerBut it wasn't like that. It was just me and my friend called one day. It was like nothing though. I wasn't looking for anyone or anything like that.
7:27🔗AdamOkay, but with your dicey past and Alex and his dicey past and all the trouble you guys have had, don't you think you should just stay away from things like that in general?
7:37🔗CallerYeah, I mean, I totally regret it. I really do, but I don't think he would forgive me for that.
7:44🔗AdamOkay, well, let's forgive her, Alex, because it didn't really amount to anything. And as guys, we all know the proof is in the pudding. I mean, it's the bottom line.
7:52🔗CallerThat's true, but I mean, what about, like, she's lied about that, what does...
7:59🔗CallerNo, he thinks I do, but it's not even like that.
8:01🔗CallerYou know what, because look at it, check it out.
8:03🔗CallerBecause I go out with my friends, he thinks I'm doing something, and it's not even like...
8:06🔗CallerUntil one o'clock in the morning, two o'clock in the morning?
8:07🔗CallerOh my God, but I haven't seen my friends.
8:09🔗AdamAll right, hold on one second, hold on, hold on. We're gonna put them both on hold for one second. Please listen, everyone, and understand why you do not get married at 19 or 20.
8:30🔗AdamWith yourself in the future on the phone or just... No, I see. Okay, I was confused for one second there. Alex, Jessica? Okay, let's just calm down for a second. Are there any children here? No. Okay, good. Okay, so here's your plan.
8:49🔗AdamYour plan is not to have any children for a little while, right? Until you guys get good with your relationship and then start working at the relationship just like it was anything else you wanted to be good at.
9:05🔗DrewJessica, is Alex available in the way that you sort of need a husband to be available?
9:25🔗CallerAnd it's just, I mean, I'm really getting tired of it, and I do understand, because I don't have a job, I understand that, but I don't want to just, I don't know, like, to get back together and things still be the same. I don't want that. I want things to change.
9:53🔗DrewMaybe you guys honestly ought to look at each other and say, maybe we're not up for a relationship now. We may not just be up for it. I mean, well, maybe, because both of you seem sort of okay with the fact that you don't want to be the way you were, and yet you don't know how to get from where you are to where you need to be. And that may just be ten years of maturity. It may just be living for a little while to get you guys to figure out how to be available, how to be a separate person in a relationship.
10:14🔗AdamWhy don't you give them some ground rules and a book to read and we'll move on? Have you got anything? I mean, look, you two are both a pain in the ass. You both have energy, right? And when you two get together, you got two pains in the ass under the same roof and there's going to be trouble. And both of you are going to have to work real hard on yourselves. Right now, you're both working on each other and each other doesn't really like each one of you working on them. You just work on yourself. Alex, you'd be a better husband. Jessica, you'd be a better wife.
11:04🔗AdamKeddie? Keddie. All right, Keddie. You're 22. What's up?
11:09🔗CallerWell, I mean, I've checked out a couple of websites about like a penis enlargement pump and I know how it works. But I was just kind of wondering. They don't say anything about maybe the long term effect. If there's something negative, that could be a long term effect.
13:28🔗AdamAlright, so don't focus on that. Figure out whatever it is you like to do, and do it, and meet people that way. I know it sounds trite, but that's about your only shot.
13:37🔗CallerI do have another question that's a little more intelligent.
13:40🔗CallerI was kind of wondering about what age are you most prone to be socialized sexually, in which, you know, because I watched pornography maybe when I was about 11 and 12 years old, and I saw some things I would rather have never seen.
13:56🔗CallerWell, I mean, like anal sex performed. I don't want to ever disrespect a girl by doing that, but, you know, someone that I really care about, I wouldn't want to ask her to do that. And I kind of I am somewhat attracted to it. And I was just kind of wondering.
14:15🔗AdamAll right, listen, Kenny, stop thinking so much. Just go out and live your life. Join a gym and go rollerblading, go to the park, go hang out at a Starbucks. Stop creeping everyone out and thinking everyone. She's I don't know what it is with young guys, but the more thinking you do, the less a poon tang you get. There's a direct correlation there. And he's just thinking himself into a corner.
15:27🔗AdamYes. Ladies, you like BS. You'll never admit it, because you don't know when a guy is BSing. We know the BS guys. A lot of attitude, hair all. Any guy who screws with his hair too much or wears too much jewelry.
15:41🔗DrewAny guy who can pull off the romantic piece too smoothly.
16:45🔗CallerWell, all she had was a vibrator. Anyway, so she went and got it, and afterwards, the last, I would say, two weeks, I've kind of been, like, itchy there. Where?
17:00🔗AdamOkay, well, wait a minute. Hold on. Did she have the strap-on, or was it just a...?
18:52🔗DrewOkay. No, no, no. Wait a minute. The traditional sort of classical venereal diseases. However, hepatitis C and HIV require very special cleansing solutions like glutaraldehyde or they stay on there.
19:07🔗AdamThey're not going to stay there and stay alive. Oh, please. For how long?
19:10🔗DrewListen, like when people use those endoscopes and things, they have to be very specially cleaned, even though they may not be used for a week later.
19:16🔗AdamThey overdo it. But if this thing's dry and it's sitting in a closet and a hamper up in some shelf somewhere, it's not going to hamper that.
19:23🔗DrewBut the point is, I think you've got something called pruritus anii, and it's probably just a hemorrhoid, that kind of thing, and it's just irritation. You get some anusalt cream over the counter and that's that.
20:04🔗CallerMe and my friends pulled a prank on this guy, one of our friends. We put an orthotrysolican cycling pill in his drink, and we haven't talked to him in like a week, so we don't know if he's okay or not.
20:17🔗DrewJust think, is there a female on Earth that pulls this kind of JO stuff on their friends?
21:36🔗CallerYeah. I was raped, like, I guess, like, month, end of March, and I really haven't had any response to it. I haven't reacted to it. I'm not traumatized by it. Like, I went, like, two days after it happened, my parents kind of, my mom took me to, like, this spa in Arizona. I was there, like, she left. I was there by myself, like, she came and visited me sometimes, but like, for like a couple weeks, then my dad has, he does business in New York and he's got a condo there. Like, I was there and, like, my aunt took me shopping.
22:11🔗AdamAll right. Well, hold on. I don't want to go through your entire day planner, but hold on. We get the picture. Everything, you didn't, you didn't...
22:35🔗CallerAnd it was, like, he pulled me into a parking garage that was under construction, and it happened to be part of the hospital, and security guards found me unconscious, and...
22:44🔗AdamReally? They, did they whack you in the head or something?
22:47🔗CallerI, I, when he threw me down, my head must have, because I had, I had to get stitches in my head and, like...
22:55🔗CallerParts of it, I remember him rubbing, he had his hand, and I think, I don't know if it was because of my head or I blacked out because he had his hand like right at my neck to hold me down, like he was, I was flat on my back and he like was bracing himself like right at my neck with one hand.
23:12🔗DrewHow long before you went unconscious after he attacked you?
23:15🔗CallerOh God, I don't know. I think I remember him penetrating me.
23:20🔗DrewNo, wait a minute. He attacked you and then quickly you were unconscious or did you admit?
23:24🔗CallerI was jogging. He like grabbed me like hand over my face and pulled me in and that's all kind of blurry and then I remember hitting the ground.
23:34🔗DrewSo within a few seconds you were unconscious?
23:39🔗CallerFrom where I was running and where I was found, it's not, I mean they weren't like close. It's like, I mean he had to drag me through like.
23:45🔗DrewAlright, hang on a second. I would think just that assault would be so traumatizing is to give you sort of a post-traumatic stress reaction, okay? Now the only way that I know that people, there's two ways that people sort of go on with things when traumatic, highly arousing, traumatizing experiences aren't sort of processed as something special is one, you're used to being traumatized.
24:18🔗AdamAlright, well you gotta get some help before it comes out and catches you off guard.
24:23🔗CallerMy parents' attitude about this whole thing is I think like, you're okay.
24:27🔗DrewWell that's how they want to believe it is.
24:29🔗CallerAnd like, it's the same thing with my friends, like my mom has specifically said to me, like, oh, if, you know, they ask you how you're doing, like, just say you're fine. Cause I had to, I was supposed to graduate in May, at the beginning of this month.
24:46🔗CallerNorthwestern. And I am not graduating because it happened over my spring break and I didn't go back for the last trimester. So I'm not graduating, so there's something to be explained, which I don't know what my parents told me.
25:04🔗DrewYou need to get yourself a therapist. Relax. You're okay, you're normal. Thank God you come into this with an intact sort of psyche and you will get through this. But you need the opportunity to get through it. And everybody else doesn't want to feel the pain of acknowledging what you've been through. And that's fine, that's them. But you need an opportunity to have the feelings.
25:26🔗CallerYeah, my parents, like I don't, how do I find or get into therapy without telling my parents, but like kind of do the preliminary work.
25:34🔗DrewBut Northwestern has an elaborate student health system, why don't you take advantage of that?
25:38🔗CallerI haven't been like back there, I don't know.
25:39🔗DrewWell you're in Chicago now still, right?
25:41🔗CallerWell yeah, I'm north of Chicago, yeah.
25:45🔗DrewGet back in and get involved regularly with some treatment. I'm sure there are rape support groups too. Get a group experience and an individual experience would be very, very helpful.
25:55🔗DrewSorry. Sorry she went through that. That's the real McCoy.
25:59🔗AdamYeah. That's what I'm saying. I mean, you can be one of the few people in your rape support group who is bonafide, raped, I mean, jogging. Why is it everyone who was not raped by their boyfriend or that sort of date rape thing.
26:18🔗DrewIn Central Park or along the lake in Chicago.
26:20🔗AdamYes. If I have a daughter, I will forbid her from jogging. I would tell her she can walk or she can sprint. Apparently if you're walking, you cannot be raped. And if you're at a full blown sprint, you can't be raped. It's the jogging that attracts a rapist.
27:12🔗AdamLove Line, everybody. That's the radio show. There's Drew. I'm Adam. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Rob Schneider is going to be in here tomorrow night, promoting his new movie, I'm guessing. And let's get back to phones and speak to Ryan. Hello. Hey, Ryan, you're 14. What's up?
27:30🔗DrewHey, Brian, hang on one second. You know, when Rob was last here last time, he said something that was rather striking. He said that he read our Relationships book. It was the best book he'd ever read on relationships. Remember that?
27:41🔗AdamNo. No, now that you say it, it sounds sort of familiar. But no, I would never remember a compliment like that. I only remember bad things people say to me.
27:50🔗DrewYeah, of course. All right, Ryan, go ahead.
27:52🔗DrewYou're right. I shouldn't mention good things.
27:53🔗Well, this girl at school, I really like her. And she like considers me like her brother. And she's like, oh, Ryan, you're so sweet. You're so funny. Like, that means she like, doesn't think of me as like a guy. She doesn't like.
29:20🔗DrewYeah. See, I think there's a lot of mixing and matching in those little populations that stay together for many, many years. Yeah. I think he could just ask her out.
29:41🔗DrewIt's like, Ryan, I hate to say this, but at that stage of my life, it's like I didn't have, it's like I was a car trying to run without an engine. You know what I mean? I just didn't have anything going on that I could call upon.
30:09🔗AdamI know it will. Well, let's not go overboard. I'm literally a millionaire, as you know, Drew. Ryan. Yeah. I'm going to try something on you and I hope it works. And if not for you, some other youngster listening. I give this speech about every three years. I think it's a high time I give it again. All right. I'm giving you oral sex start now. Ready? Now, and in Drew, I drew. You're a doctor. You're considered a genius by most, except for me, who really knows you. I want you to chime in if you find any fault.
30:45🔗DrewI know we're going that I already know where you're going.
30:47🔗AdamAll right. You stop me if you hear anything you don't like.
30:53🔗AdamAnd I will not yell. All the things that you do in the 8th grade, the 9th grade, even all the way through high school, socially do not amount to a hill of beans outside of high school. Now if you kill somebody, if you get somebody pregnant, if you rape somebody, if you do something horrible to someone or let someone do something horrible to you, yes that counts. But all of the jockeying, all of the asking out, all of I think she likes me but I'm too scared to say anything, it registers as a zero in your adult life, a zero.
31:30🔗DrewEven though it is so powerful to you now, when you are able to step back and look at it, you'll think, oh, did I waste time and energy and why?
31:39🔗AdamIt is like you seeing a giant inflatable wonder dog in a Macy's parade and being scared S-less of it at age three years old and then realizing it is just a bunch of fabric and air and some helium. Okay, Ryan, if you ask her out or don't ask her out or half ask her out, it will not make a difference in the next few months, few years or the rest of your life. However, if you spend too much of your life not asking people out, then you'll just be a pathetic male adult living in a one-bedroom apartment, using one of those plug-in stoves, one of those hot plates, heating cans of beans still in the can, George Foreman's grill, and eating it right out of it with a spork that you got from IHOP. But so you ask her out tomorrow. Do you hear me?
32:41🔗AdamAll right. I'm yelling at Ryan. You ask her out on a date tomorrow, OK, and you will thank us. And you know what? I'm going to I'm going to take it a step further. If you ask her out on a date tomorrow and she says no, you'll still be better off than where you are today.
33:02🔗AdamThat's right. If she says absolutely not, I wouldn't do it in a million years. You will still be better off than you are today.
33:08🔗DrewAnd those are the two important three important things. The goals are you A to build some esteem, two, build some skill, social skills, and three, try to enjoy adolescence as much as it's humanly possible, which is not very much.
33:21🔗AdamDid I forget the part about drinking the sixer of Mickey's Big Mouth?
33:34🔗CallerI got a problem. I'm manic-depressive. I've got OCD and ADD. And my deal is, well, for the past six years now, I hold in my poop. I don't go to the bathroom. And I do it deliberately. And I've talked to my doctors about it.
34:26🔗CallerThat's what they ask me. I just say it's like a feeling almost. But I don't know why I do it. No one knows why.
34:31🔗DrewWell, it goes with, you know, that kind of thing goes along with OCD, right?
34:35🔗AdamHang on a second, Brad. Ryan, young Ryan, I hope you're still listening. This is what happens when you don't ask girls out in junior high. You become the 38-year-old OCD guy who holds his own duke in. Now, you crap like once a week?
34:54🔗AdamAnd, Drew, what can it do to you medically not to do this? Not to move those bowels on a regular basis? You always say that, and I hate that, because the only thing I do well medically is crap.
35:17🔗AdamI know you crap every three days, and you have a jealous, vengeful ass, rectum. Thank you. Brad? Yeah? Your doctors have you on any medication?
35:33🔗CallerBut I don't know. I mean, I, you know, when I have to go, I'll purposely sit in the chair and suck it up and hold it in, and I'll go in my pants sometimes, and...
35:44🔗AdamYeah, very stubborn, yeah. Are you able to work?
36:09🔗DrewThere are people that retain stool. The kids do this.
36:12🔗AdamIsn't this a weird adolescent-type behavior?
36:15🔗DrewThis is a... aside from being masochistic, it's sort of a developmental arrest symptom.
36:19🔗AdamAnything happen to you when you were little?
36:21🔗CallerUm, I had... I was... I wasn't raped or anything, but I had a sexual encounter with a 16-year-old when I was 13. He made me, you know, I can blow jobs and stuff like that.
36:42🔗AdamAll right. So, hey, Brad. Yeah. You're 38. You're not even 40 yet. How about, you know, seeing about salvaging your life? I mean, take your medication. You know, you realize this, uh, bowel movement thing is, uh, a strange thing. How about just taking a dump when you got to take one? I mean, I know then you wouldn't... I don't want to. I know you don't want to, but I don't want to do anything. I still do something. I mean, I know, I can't talk crazy people out of being crazy. But Brad, you know you're a little crazy, right? And one of the things that makes you crazy is you take a crap once a week. How about engaging in some behaviors that sane people might partake in, like crapping?
37:28🔗DrewIt's kind of like an eating disorder, you know, that you do get something out of this, albeit dysfunctional. And it's a natural function. It's something that needs structure to it, and it really requires you letting go of that control and going ahead and having whatever feelings you're containing by going through this or whatever sorts of arousal benefits you're getting out of it, and just going at the same time every day, sitting down and letting go, and being much more structured with it so you don't get into that sort of cycle of preoccupation and obsession.
37:56🔗AdamHold on. I'm going to change Brad's life. Brad? Yeah? Why don't you get yourself one of those toilet seats that squirts in the ass like I got? You'll be begging to Duke.
38:20🔗DrewEat very structured meals throughout the day.
38:22🔗AdamYou've got to be structured with a toilet. Okay. Listen. Here's your tall order. Take a crap. How tall a order is that? Just do it, would you? I know you're nuts, but do it. Then you won't be nuts, because you'll be acting sane. That's my new thing now.
38:36🔗DrewYou're going to give that lecture again tonight?
38:38🔗AdamI don't care how nuts all of you are. Just act sane, and you will not be nuts. You can be nuts inside, but you will not be nuts on the outside. We'll never know.
38:48🔗DrewYou'll never know, and that's what's important.
38:49🔗AdamThat's the important thing. All right, Drew, number two?
39:40🔗AdamHey, hey, Loveline, everybody. I'm Adam. That's Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Rob Schneider will be in here tomorrow night. And let's talk to Bill, who has some advice for the pooper. Bill?
40:03🔗CallerYeah. I just like to let him know that if he's still listening that he should get some help with it because I had problems with it and I went to the doctor. They had to start using enemas and get me to drink mineral oil because if you hold it in for a long time and then you go and it hurts really bad and it stretches out your O-Ring.
40:27🔗AdamWho produces that? Is that Morton Thiokol? And how long did you go when you're... Give me your best... Like how many days did you put together without a number two?
40:42🔗DrewHere's what I've seen is people that abuse laxatives. Events really can't go without the laxative and the bowel doesn't move normally and they can fill up so they haven't gone for days and days and days, maybe weeks sometimes. The whole thing becomes... I've even had a patient who had a colon removed.
41:00🔗AdamBad times. But you say, and you've said this before, no healthier to go three times a day than someone who goes once every other day. No different.
41:13🔗DrewI mean there's no syndrome associated with that, no, other than discomfort from the bowel filling up. It's purely a sort of mechanical issue.
41:25🔗DrewYes. It's all it does. Absorb water from waste. That's all it does. So the weird preoccupations of the colon are nothing but weird preoccupations. That is, their soul and their spiritual and their emotional worlds need to be examined, not their colons.
41:41🔗AdamYeah. Nothing to do with plaque building up on your insides or anything like that.
41:46🔗DrewThat is what I find so bizarre. We do colonoscopies where you look through people's colons with a scope. And before that, you make them squeaky clean. Because you have to be able to see every inch of the surface of their colon. You clean them out. They're not happy, healthy people. They're depleted because they've had diarrhea for two days and they have nothing in there.
42:03🔗AdamBut dude, what about all those toxins that build up inside your colon? No? Just nonsense.
42:08🔗DrewIn fact, when Jerry from Survivor was up here during one of the breaks she goes, I've never been so cleansed of toxins. She was malnourished. She would have had massive edema when she refed herself.
42:21🔗DrewWhat is these toxins? What are these things? Just describe. I just want somebody to tell me one of them. What is the structure of one toxin? Please.
42:29🔗AdamYou could have a nice bone-chilling talk with my screwball mom about the toxins building up in the blood system. Hey, I remember my mom used to talk about giving blood and getting lead out of your blood system by replacing. But hey, it makes sense. If you say, okay, you carry around seven pints of blood in you and you're living in a society where you're taking lead in via airborne particles or water or drinking, eating utensils or something, then you give some of that blood and you make new blood. You're not using the old blood. How much blood do you waste anyway if you're not bleeding?
43:47🔗DrewNo, no, but I just want to pay homage to our good friendship and the fact that I wouldn't dream of disturbing you with a gift. It's uncomfortable.
43:55🔗AdamWell, my family has joined you in your quest, by the way. You can get squat from any of those losers. Go ahead, man.
44:03🔗CallerAll right. Well, I'm a long-time listener, first-time caller, and well, I love your guys' show, and man, the show rocks.
44:10🔗CallerAnd okay. Well, my question is, I have one big question, one little question, but the big question is, I did, I found out, I guess, fairly recently that, well, my parents had been divorced for about three years, separated for four, that the girl or the woman my dad cheated on my mom with, which basically broke up the marriage, he got married to without telling me, and I had, he had dropped a couple, like, hints to me, like stuff like that, like, he wanted me to know, because, like, he, I'd be, like, talking to him, because I talked to him on a regular basis. He is, like, well, with my sister, and he has two kids from a previous marriage. I'm, like, basically the only one that calls him on a regular basis, and, you know, that he has a good relationship with. And he'd say, like, uh, yeah, I'll drop by with the check later, but my wife's kind of sick, I gotta go and...
45:08🔗CallerI don't know, I really love my dad, and uh, the thing, I think the reason that I have a good relationship with him is because I don't really expect a lot out of him, because I know my dad's like not the world's greatest dad.
45:21🔗DrewYeah, I mean, there's something to that, being realistic about who he is, which is a jerk.
45:46🔗DrewYeah. If you just want some information, you just want an explanation, you're gonna get a lot of BS, probably.
45:51🔗CallerThat's why I haven't really asked it. And another thing is that one thing my dad hasn't told me is that, well, I'm 16, my sister's 14, but in between, like around 85, he got that woman pregnant and had a kid. I got a wedlock. And he lives with, he lives with, well, I guess his new wife now and that kid.
46:11🔗AdamHold on. What's your dad? Is he an attorney or a car salesman?
46:15🔗CallerEven worse, he works at a recording studio.
46:43🔗Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back on Loveline.
47:23🔗AdamHello, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191. Rod Schneider in here tomorrow night. Back to the phones we go. Becky?
47:39🔗CallerI was recently, like, just a few months ago, put in two psycho hospitals for, like, the first time was the time to suicide, and the second time was, like, because I didn't want to take my medication.
47:53🔗CallerOkay. And I, like, a month and a half ago, I stopped taking my medicine, and my parents don't know, and, like, I'm starting to feel, like, you know, the old things, I'm starting to cut myself again, and...
48:07🔗DrewWhy don't you go ahead and get back on the medicine?
48:09🔗CallerBecause I don't like the fact that I have to take medication to be normal.
48:12🔗DrewWell, you know, people don't like having any kind of illness. It's unfortunate when you have to deal with that. And people your age that are diabetics don't like having to take insulin to keep, stay alive. And very often they don't take their insulin. They have all kinds of awful consequences. But the fact is, you have this imbalance. You gotta take medicine. If you don't, you suffer. Why don't you take the medicine?
48:33🔗CallerBecause, like, I know even if I tell my parents that I'm not taking it, like, they're going to make me go on it, but they're going to put me in a psycho hospital again.
48:41🔗DrewYeah, so why don't you go ahead and just take it on your own?
48:44🔗CallerRight, and then it's going to take, like, another, like, four to six weeks or whatever to take it.
48:47🔗DrewNot necessarily. Sometimes you're going to kick in pretty quick.
48:50🔗CallerYeah, like, I don't know. The first time it took, like, over two months.
49:56🔗DrewBecause women who age get cervical cancer and regular pap smears prevent that from happening. And if you get cervical cancer, it's very deadly.
50:04🔗DrewOkay. You can prevent that from happening. Swelling could be just a vaginitis. It could be just some irritation. It could be herpes. It could be other sexually transmitted diseases. But you are not going to find out what the heck that is unless you go in there and take a look.
50:58🔗CallerBut, yeah, my ex-boyfriend is in prison. It's not really prison. It's like kiddie prison, you know, with doobie things, but he wrote me a letter a while ago and like a few weeks ago and I'm really scared. I don't know if I should write him back or not.
51:14🔗CallerIt said he was sorry for everything he did to me because I went out with him when I was 14 and he was really abusive and everything. Like he used to hit me and stuff like that.
51:22🔗DrewOK. That's not going to change. Not without long, long periods of treatment.
51:27🔗AdamWell, what if he got a tattoo of Christ while he was in the pen?
51:36🔗DrewWhy would you go back in with a guy that was abusive like that?
51:38🔗CallerOh, I don't want to get back with him or anything like that. I just I don't know. He really wanted me to write him back in the letter. Please, please write me back.
51:44🔗DrewYou're going to get sucked right on in, aren't you?
51:46🔗CallerThat's what I'm scared of. Yeah, I don't want to like end up being with him again or anything like that.
51:55🔗CallerI think I said two years. I don't know what it's for though. He didn't say.
51:59🔗DrewSo many things that people do that just happen start right here. You know what I mean? Yeah. You shouldn't be going out for the coffee. You shouldn't be responding to the letter. You shouldn't be alone in the bedroom together. It's a series of bad choices. She can make a good one right here right now.
52:17🔗AdamWell, and you know, I was thinking that too, which basically the way I was looking at it, I think this is probably restating what you were saying, which is at this point, all you have to do is not return the guy's letter and you're done.
52:32🔗AdamThis is tantamount to breaking it off with someone after one date, as opposed to being with them for a month and a half. Okay? I understand that. So just don't return this one and don't even write in one of those letters that says, I'm sorry. I know what you're going through. We can't be what we were.
53:02🔗DrewStop it. Seriously. You're going to talk yourself into that letter.
53:06🔗AdamYou're going to take a big step forward if you return that letter and it's going to be a real slippery slope, and you may just slide down the other side and never be able to grab a branch or anything to slow yourself down after this.
53:17🔗DrewThat's fine. He was abusive. Put it down. Forget it.
53:20🔗CallerI don't want to regret not writing to him because I was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder.
53:32🔗CallerI feel like I kind of need closure or something.
53:34🔗DrewThe closure is you having the self-esteem to do something ritualistic with that letter and put it away forever.
53:41🔗AdamLet me tell you about closure and strength, everyone. It's about not doing anything sometimes. Not picking up the phone, not writing the letter, not throwing the rock, not ramming the car in front of you.
53:53🔗DrewMichelle's hell bent on getting back with him. That's what that is, Michelle. That's what that is.
53:57🔗AdamYes. You can disguise it as closure, but that's BS.
54:22🔗DrewYou can't reason. You know what I mean? You can't find a place to connect when there's too much denial, or too much paranoia. It's too disconnected from reality.
54:34🔗AdamI don't like people that take care of themselves too much, or worry too much about themselves. Do you not like those people?
54:43🔗AdamI'm really the worst. Every time we do some nutty thing at the Man Show, and there's somebody going, well, now shouldn't we put down some grip tape, and put like, don't we need some extra lighting? Shut up. Just get in there. I was like, well, we need to get a stunt man or something. We can't have one of them. But now, just shoot them with the exploding dookie. He'll be fine. He should wear protective gown. Now, he'll be cool.
55:09🔗DrewWhat about the testicle outfit? That's going to get ruined.
55:12🔗AdamWhat do we got insurance for? He's fine. Katie?
55:45🔗DrewThere's something called polycystic ovarian syndrome that actually is very important for you to know about if you have it, and it's associated with being a little overweight, a little resistant to the effects of insulin, so there's a chance of diabetes later on, and really irregular periods from multiple cysts, and it's worth knowing about. And there are other things that can cause this too that should be evaluated at your age.
56:02🔗AdamYou know, it's funny about that when you ask someone if they're a little bit overweight, when they stutter for a few minutes, that's usually in the, it's 10, it's more than 10 pounds overweight, because it wouldn't count that 10, and less than 40, because they would just go ahead and say they were overweight. Yeah, that's the chick who's 5'8, and 165.
56:29🔗DrewWhich is actually perfect for PCO, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, that's part of that, that's kind of described.
56:48🔗CallerI just got back from a visit from back home in Illinois and I saw one of my old girlfriends and I haven't dated for three years now and I saw her again and I fell head over heels again for her and I'm here in California.
57:05🔗CallerI don't know what to do. Is she worth moving back for or what?
57:08🔗DrewWhy'd you break up with her in the first place?
57:10🔗I went down to Florida for a few months and we just lost contact.
57:14🔗DrewWhy wasn't it something worth maintaining contact for?
57:17🔗CallerI tried and she's just tough to get ahold of.
57:41🔗CallerI'm trying to make some money and enjoying the sun.
57:44🔗AdamWhat's that? You had a tough time with the ladies in San Diego?
57:49🔗CallerYeah. I've only been out here 8 months.
57:53🔗AdamNo luck. If you met a chick in San Diego you were halfway into. You wouldn't even dream of moving back to Chicago. This is based on your desperation, not on how much she's blossomed. He's got the radio up so I'm going to hang up on him.
58:11🔗DrewYeah, that's it. That's what I was getting at too. When he had a lot going on I was like, whatever, now he's alone, he feels uncomfortable. Whoa, this was fantastic.
58:20🔗AdamWell, it's amazing how good anything can look when you've been denied it for a long time. A corn dog can look like a pheasant under glass, if you haven't eaten in a long time.
58:36🔗AdamBut you know what I was thinking about? No, that is really good. You know what I was thinking about with Chuck? This would be a horrible thing to say. But you know what, Drew? We're too old to see girls we haven't seen in a while and see how they've blossomed. Do you know what I'm talking about? Guys, enjoy this because it doesn't happen when you get older. Drew, you're what? 43? 42? Right. You know, if you saw some chick you last saw when she was 23 and you see her now, it's like, oh, Christ, honey, what happened? Did she get run over? What happened? Is there some accident at the plant? What the hell happened? I mean, the best you can say at our age, and I know this sounds sexist and double standard and horrible, but the best you can say is, hey, holding up pretty good. She's, she don't look like crap. That is like, that is high praise. And you don't have that when you're 15, 16, 17, you're dating a girl and then you see her again at 21, 22, you're like, whoa, honey, you shed that weight.
59:40🔗AdamCut your hair or something? Oh, you got your teeth fixed. Yeah. But that don't happen later in life. So I'm just saying, enjoy it. Because when I see those girls I went to high school with now, I'm like, wow, I'm glad you didn't, you didn't have sex with me now.
59:57🔗DrewWhen did you see people from high school?
1:00:11🔗AdamWell, let's see. Yeah. Yeah, because I graduated 18. Yeah, I'm going to have a 20-year reunion in another like year and a half or two years, something like that.
1:00:27🔗AdamBut let me tell you something, anyone who's going to attend the 1982 graduating class at North Hollywood High Reunion, I will be returning like MacArthur returned to the Philippines. You're going to walk right out of the ocean. I will pull up in a amphibious landing craft. I'm going to be wearing a cape and a crown. I'll have a orchestra playing as I enter. All will hail the king. See, my last reunion, I was still swinging a hammer, so it wasn't any fun. And my buddy Ray peed on me.
1:00:56🔗DrewOh, well, that was all a good time. You know, just to relive the past, you know.
1:01:08🔗CallerYeah, like, I was at work the other day, and we were discussing, like, you know, stupid stuff. And all of a sudden, some guy told me that every, like, year, you should go get your, like, rectum cleaned out.
1:01:40🔗CallerLike, to, like, not to get, like, infections or something. No, no. All right.
1:01:46🔗AdamWho do you work with? Who is this guy?
1:01:47🔗CallerI work in a kitchen. I work in the hospital, actually, in the hospital, in the kitchen. And, like, this guy was just, like, he said, no, some nurse told me this. And I'm like, are you serious? He's like, yeah.
1:02:42🔗CallerJust like having colds, like I have a cold right now. And I always get fevers. And I'm just wondering, you know, why? I mean, I get even nearer to someone that has a cold and then I get it. And, you know, I don't know if I'm anemic or I don't know.
1:03:00🔗DrewDo you have any medical problems that would put you at risk for infection?
1:03:09🔗DrewYeah, of course. That's a terrible stress to your system. And it makes it difficult for your immune system to function. So naturally enough, you come in contact with an infection, you're going to get it. And you'll have more complications from the infections, too.
1:03:30🔗DrewWait. Stop for a second. Put her on hold, please. Just for a second. Please. Please. Let's talk about it. Why? That's the reaction that really pisses me off. Why does it? And that's the denial piece that really I get so frustrated with.
1:03:46🔗AdamOh, I care, but I just don't care to care.
1:03:49🔗DrewI care because that's the part that prevents her from getting well. It's like, go at my chronic disease. I mean, why would I do that?
1:03:59🔗AdamOkay. Well, let me yell at her. What is she lying for? Hey, Mary? Yeah? You need to handle your bulimia and then worry about all the little crap that you're worrying about now instead of worrying about your bulimia.
1:04:13🔗DrewThat's what we call rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Okay? The colds, deck chairs. Titanic going down because of bulimia. Okay?
1:04:24🔗AdamAll right. So get yourself some help. You're calling from Van Nuys?
1:04:52🔗AdamPlease. I will. I'm going to tell all you people, you live in these hellholes and you don't even care. This Van Nuys is a dump. I grew up in North Hollywood. That was a dump. I had friends in Van Nuys. I worked in Van Nuys. It's a horrible place. Van Nuys means, it actually means hellhole in Spanish.
1:05:13🔗AdamThe point is, if you can scrape together another 65 bucks a month rent, you can slide over to Sherman Oaks and you'll be fine. And, oh, handle your bulimia while you're at it. Here we go. Jesse?
1:06:24🔗AdamOoh, 15. Jeez, where do you go from there? Not up, brother, just sideways from now on. You don't go anywhere from oral. That's it, you've peaked at 15. Enjoy. So, she gave you oral, something came out of your pants, she spit it onto your hand?
1:06:41🔗CallerWell, see, it was on my stomach, and, you know, kind of...
1:06:48🔗DrewWell, you brush it off, and then grab her... I mean, what did you do?
1:07:05🔗DrewWell, if you are concerned, there's no... You're obviously not gonna... You're not gonna give us enough information for us to judge whether this is even a realistic possibility, but... No, I'm fine with it now. But if you're concerned, she can certainly take the morning after pill. And that will substantially... If she takes it the next 24 hours, she will reduce the risk of pregnancy by about 90%. Okay?
1:07:25🔗CallerYeah. I just wanted to know, like, is there, like, what's the biggest percentage that she could be?
1:08:07🔗AdamNorth Hollywood's a dump. And then I think about, well, doesn't that upset people? And I realized we never got a phone call with anyone upset or defending.
1:08:14🔗DrewBecause they live in the dump. They know where they live.
1:08:17🔗AdamThey know it, yeah. Who's going to argue with that? Jessica?
1:08:25🔗CallerUm, I just have, like, this really big fear of, like, okay, because I'll hang out with these guys and my friends and stuff. And they'll just, like, be showing up there because I won't know that they're going. And like, I don't know, I guess sometimes they get a crush on me. And then when somebody tells me, I, like, completely stop talking to them and I just get really...
1:08:47🔗DrewHave you ever been interested in one of the guys that is interested in you?
1:08:51🔗CallerWell, it's just like, whenever the guys that I have a crush on never seem to like me.
1:08:55🔗DrewRight. Okay. And so you don't want to be sort of intruded upon by these guys that do like you. I don't know.
1:09:00🔗CallerI just get, like, really scared of them and then I just, like...
1:09:02🔗DrewYou're 15. You may not yet have the skills in order to manage guys that sort of come on to you that way. That's alright.
1:11:44🔗AdamNope. Okay. Hang on. Jessica? Now, it can't. I don't want any derivative things. If we said Steve and he goes by Stephen, you got to sound off, right?
1:11:55🔗AdamOkay. Hang on. Hang on. Kids, this could be the rest of the show. It's a straight American name. I'm only going to take calls that are guesses now on this guy's name. It's a regular American name. I know I'm going to throttle her when I find out the guy's name is Hezekiah.
1:12:14🔗AdamWe're going to take a break. Well, we'll finish the guessing after that.
1:12:51🔗CallerHi, this is David Arquette, and you're listening to The Loveline with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew. Alrighty, kids.
1:13:00🔗AdamRob Schneider in tomorrow night, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. When we left off, we were speaking to Jessica. Jessica, is your radio turned down now, by the way?
1:13:11🔗AdamOkay. Now you're 15. You're a little creeped out by guys you don't like, but you're unable to connect with guys you do like.
1:13:18🔗CallerYeah, it like bugs me all day. I think about it all day.
1:13:21🔗AdamMore importantly, there's a guy you have a crush on at school, right? And you have not been able to muster the courage to come up and talk to him, right?
1:13:30🔗CallerWell, I'm like friends with him, but I can't tell him that I like him.
1:14:35🔗AdamNow, I swear. You know what's going to happen, Jessica. You are going to give me the name of someone I named 10 minutes ago, and I'm going to fly out to Phoenix and strangle you. Okay.
1:15:58🔗CallerI'm 31 and about six months ago, I started having a new kind of orgasm in addition to the old one. Wow. I'm trying to figure out what the hell it is and why it's starting now after I've been sexually active half my life.
1:16:15🔗CallerIt's a much smaller release, but it's much easier. It happened more frequently before I could only have clitoral orgasms that were very intense and took a long time. And this is like I can have it from intercourse from almost anything and it's short and sudden and it's really, really wet.
1:16:59🔗DrewWell, it's probably what's doing it still. It's interesting though, it changes orgasmic function. Usually it diminishes it. Are you having more difficulty having a clitoral orgasm?
1:17:08🔗CallerNo, the olivac and the orgasm is the same. This is like just more.
1:17:12🔗DrewI bet it's the Paxil though, I really do. Because Paxil just changes all that function and changes it in different ways in different people. Usually in the downward direction it makes it worse, but I can see where it can make a better change too.
1:17:22🔗CallerWell, it's really embarrassing. I mean, I feel like I should only date a guy named Noah now. I'm like, I'm just-
1:17:26🔗AdamYou've got Bill Nark. You get it there?
1:18:40🔗CallerYeah. Good evening, gentlemen, and thanks for taking my call. I'm a long-time listener, but I've never called before. So, I appreciate you taking my call.
1:18:50🔗CallerAnyway, I've got a kind of a troubling situation. I've been an amputee for 20 years as a result of a motorcycle accident. I have an above-the-knee amputation on my right leg, and I'm pretty active. Good times.
1:19:07🔗CallerBut I have a nagging problem with what they call phantom pain. Yeah. Phantom pain is in a plastic foot I don't have. Everybody knows it's plastic, but it hurts like, it hurts badly.
1:19:21🔗DrewPhantom pain, literally, you feel like that limb that you had is still there, and you're feeling pain in it.
1:19:25🔗CallerYeah, but, you know, most of the times, most amputees I've talked with don't even have this problem. Right. Not only do I have the problem, but it seems to be getting worse. I've just been through three days of intense pain.
1:19:45🔗AdamAre you actually having pain in... Would you shut up, Drew? You have a prosthetic leg and you have a foot, and you're actually having pain in the foot of the prosthetic leg?
1:19:58🔗CallerIt feels like someone is taking a high-voltage wire and stabbing at my heel.
1:20:04🔗DrewIf he took off the prosthetic leg, he'd still have the pain.
1:20:08🔗AdamWell, you have to burn the prosthetic leg.
1:20:50🔗DrewIt's difficult to treat, and people might blow it off because it's impossible to treat, and you should see a pain specialist. They have spinal nerve stimulators and all kinds of things they can do to treat this. It's a nerve issue. It's a spinal reflex and a peripheral nerve problem.
1:21:05🔗AdamWell, where is the leg that was amputated? Because you're going to have to get a priest in there to exercise it. That's the only way to get rid of phantom pain.
1:21:11🔗CallerWell, I was just going to ask you, Dr. Drew, is there anything that is developing in this?
1:21:19🔗DrewYeah, a ton. You need to go down to Irvine and go to the Chronic Pain Program and see what they can do. They've got an anesthesia and a neurosurgery department there. They both deal with chronic pain. They have all kinds of new things for this. They have spinal stimulators. There's intrathecal injections. There's it depends where they localize the pain syndrome is coming from.
1:22:41🔗AdamTrue. We stay with these stupid Ws because you got to hair up your ass. Hang on Jessica. And then when it just tuned in, I'm trying to figure out the name of the guy that Jessica has a crush on. She says it's a normal American name. I know I'm going to kill her when she gives me the name.
1:23:00🔗AdamIt will be Octavio or it will be the third name that I mentioned but she wasn't listening because Sally Jessie Raphael was playing. Hold on, give me a minute. Raphael?
1:26:55🔗AdamHey, Loveline, I'm Adam. That's Don't Call Me Justin, Dr. Drew over there. Rob Schneider in tomorrow night. We're doing some real important work here this evening. Jesse.
1:27:31🔗DrewBe willing. That is the one piece of advice. I gave a lecture the other day. I tried to struggle with, I was at a group of addicts, we were trying to come to terms with how do you give somebody Get It. I think I talked about this the other night. How do you get them to sort of get it, to be willing to follow direction, to be willing to give in to the process of treatment? It's hard. It's hard to get somebody there. A good therapist will sort of connect with you where you are and find a way to build a relationship wherever it is you are and then you'll get it eventually.
1:29:04🔗AdamYeah. Yeah. My opinion is show up and, you know, you can treat... I mean, look at it this way. It's not a great analogy, but it's somewhat apropos. If you go to a personal trainer once a week and you sit there in your jeans and a sweat jacket...
1:29:26🔗AdamYeah, I can't. You just sort of stand around, then the world's best personal trainer will get no results. And if you just do what they tell you to do and work with them and essentially break a sweat... The harder you work, you'll get something out of it. It's the same with therapy. Not that I do that, but that's for you guys. Yeah.
1:29:43🔗DrewHave you yet to talk to your therapist about anything meaningful?
1:29:47🔗AdamNot that I'm aware of. No, no, no. Jessica.
1:30:01🔗CallerLike a month ago, I found a bump on my vagina, and I didn't think anything of it, because I just thought it was like an ingrown hair. And then my friends were saying that it could have just been like a harmless cyst, but I wanted to go to the doctor anyways, so I got in there today. And she saw it, and she's like, oh, no, it was nothing. You know, it was just an ingrown hair. And she wanted to just leave it, but I didn't want her to. So she's like, okay, you know, I'll cut it open, and I'll let it drain or whatever. And she cut it open, and she's like, this is definitely not an ingrown hair. This is definitely not a cyst. And she was like digging around, and she's like, I have no idea what this is. And she's like, oh, it should go down, but I think I'm going to have to get a second opinion and come back in six weeks. And that scares me. And so she, like, numbed it. She put a shot in it, and the numbing wore off, and now I'm in extreme pain. I can barely walk, and it's, like, swelled up.
1:31:21🔗DrewWell, it seems to me that next week or two of that ought to be figured out.
1:31:25🔗CallerYeah, like my friend's mom said it could be a gland, like a blocked up gland, because it's big and hard.
1:31:32🔗DrewYeah, it's probably what's a Bartholomew's gland that gets clogged, but even so, if the doctor really has no idea what it is, you need a diagnosis, so push on for that.
1:31:49🔗CallerAnd, well, I'm gay, and I like, it's just kind of hard where I live to find people, but like where I work, this person recently came out to me, and he was just like, yeah, hey, and we were talking, and then we went out to the movies on Monday, Memorial Day, and then he started like asking questions and stuff like that, and you know, so I answered him, because I'm more used to lifestyle, because when I figured out that I was gay, I just like accepted it, I'm just like, here's who I am.
1:32:16🔗DrewYou're gay, alright, good, and what's the question?
1:32:20🔗CallerWell, he's new to this, and when I answer these questions, they don't sound like he was like uncomfortable around me, and like he doesn't understand what's happening or anything like that.
1:32:31🔗DrewWell, maybe you can help him be more at ease with all this.
1:32:37🔗CallerYeah, well, it's just like, I want him to be like comfortable around me, except whenever I approach him, I feel like he's acting weird around me.
1:33:00🔗DrewYeah, I'm a bit nervous for him. It's the first time.
1:33:02🔗AdamHe's breaking ground and breaking behind us. Yeah, feel it out. Take it slow. Don't freak the guy out. It'll all work out. Good times. We'll be back.
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