Thursday, July 19, 2001

1:01🔗 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.

1:13🔗 Adam Hey, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. It's Dr. Drew. Forget about the phone number because this is the best of.

1:19🔗 Drew We love these.

1:20🔗 Adam Well, we do. And I know you guys just think, well, it's a vacation day. You're going to get some crampy show, but no, no, no, you're not. You're going to get better guests than you would have gotten if we were here.

1:30🔗 Drew Actually, they pull out the actually interesting segments of this show.

1:34🔗 Adam That's right. And you wouldn't have been able to get through if you called anyway.

1:38🔗 Drew That's right.

1:38🔗 Adam So enjoy this. Jeremy McGrath, Lincoln Park, Kathy Griffin and Shaggy are all going to be in here tonight.

1:45🔗 Drew But first, Jeremy McGrath.

1:46🔗 Adam Supercross champ Jeremy McGrath here. Jeremy, I saw a race in Anaheim and he won, as per usual. And I got to tell you, I took the, I went back in the pit area after the race. Jeremy's father gave me a full tour of the brand new $350,000 trailer, which does not include the rig that tows it or any of the tools that are in it. Just the trailer. And Drew, you know me and you know that meant a big boner. I almost dry-humped Jeremy's dad.

2:22🔗 Drew A big boner?

2:23🔗 Adam A medium, medium to small boner. But I mean this thing, this thing is spectacular. I mean it is a full semi that has been custom built for Jeremy. Jeremy's got his own team now and it's McGrath-Mazda, right?

2:39🔗 Yeah, McGrath-Mazda, McGrath-Mazda-Yamaha Racing, which is the, I guess it's the first rider owner team. And, you know, no one's done that in our sport yet. It's been the rider and the owner of a team. So it's a pretty new deal.

2:56🔗 Adam What does being the owner of the team mean exactly?

3:00🔗 Not much.

3:02🔗 Adam All right, let's take some calls.

3:03🔗 Drew It means you get a cool trailer.

3:04🔗 What it means is you go retain the sponsorship. You know, we have a great sponsor, Mazda, and a great relationship with Yamaha. We were able to come up with some deals with Hot Wheels and Mattel and 1-800-Collect and people like that. And instead of someone else going to get the money, we go get it and then, you know, we have a crew and we pay their salaries and stuff like that.

3:26🔗 Adam And when you try to go get the money, I'm guessing they take a look at your history, your wins, and try to figure out how much to give you. And I guess you're a good guy to ask for the money. I mean, you're the winningest guy in Supercross history. How many wins do you have as opposed to the second place guy? This is what I like.

3:45🔗 OK. I have 72 Supercross wins. And the second guy is Rick Johnson with 28.

3:53🔗 Adam Yes. Drew, and I'm telling you, you've got to drag. I mean, what was I saying about this yesterday?

4:00🔗 Drew You don't have to know anything about it. You just have to sit there and enjoy it.

4:03🔗 Adam No. You will be blown away. You don't have to be a fan. You don't have to ride. You don't have to have a motorcycle. You just have to have a pulse. No, exactly. And you will love it. I mean, it is such an undertaking. And like I said, there's nothing that isn't impressive about this whole thing from the from the riding to the backstage, to the production, to the trailers, to the pit, to the mechanics, to the machinery. I mean, it's just it's just so impressive. I just I really can't get enough of it. I would go this Saturday, except for I'm going. When I was at Jeremy's race, I ran into a guy who raced dragsters for Dom Perdom and I'm still alive. He's alive. Yeah. And he's got dragsters.

4:47🔗 Dom Perdom was racing 40 years ago.

4:50🔗 Adam Yeah. Well, he was he was a big daddy.

4:52🔗 Drew Don Garletts was here.

4:53🔗 Adam Chow Chow all down. He's a shy town hustler. I bet some go some blow. The point is, is he invited me to go down to Pomona, to the Winter Nationals Saturday. So, you know, I know that this was a guy, Ron Camps.

5:10🔗 I think he lives right by me.

5:11🔗 Adam Good friend of mine is nice guy. He was up there getting loaded. The beauty of me is it's important that people see me get drunk in front of them. Hey, I'm getting your shot. Come on. So Ron and his lackeys forced me to drink with them. It's it's crazy. And Jeremy, how far are those triple jumps spaced out? Do you know the footage?

5:34🔗 Normally they're about 80, 80 to 90 feet.

5:37🔗 Adam Man, it is. And what are you, 35 feet in the air?

5:41🔗 Yeah. Yeah. 30, 25.

5:43🔗 Drew Well, that gives people perspective. 35 feet is like two stories, right?

5:46🔗 Adam Well, I mean, here's here's the reality. People people exaggerate, but everybody, the ceiling of your house, if you don't. Well, a lot of our listeners live in trailers, so it may be a little lower. But if you're living in a house, it's on land. The ceiling is eight feet. And so you can just go ahead and look up at the ceiling and then go three or four times that. And that's where the bottom of the wheels of the bike would be if you were sitting on top of it. And you're not landing in a bowl of Cheerios. You're basically landing on another guy.

6:19🔗 Caller Yeah. So normally the takeoff, the jump itself is about eight feet.

6:23🔗 Adam So it is so. And you know, the other thing that's really intense about this sport is getting 30 feet of air and clearing 80 feet would be enough if you had a 200 foot, you know, takeoff strip and all the room in the world to land. These guys are basically shooting out of a berm, going over some whoopies and have 20, 30 feet to sort of get it together to get this 30 feet of air. It's not like they're, you know, a little poised going down a long straightaway collecting their thoughts. I mean, and it's every single lap times, what is it, 15 laps?

6:59🔗 Caller 20 lap final.

7:00🔗 Adam 20 laps on the main. I mean, it's brutal.

7:03🔗 Caller Also, you have to have it together when you land because you're going right into another jump, so or another section of whoops or something else.

7:11🔗 Adam Drew, you got to go. Come on, we're going to...

7:13🔗 The thrill of Supercross.

7:14🔗 Adam We're going to take mushrooms. We're going out to Anaheim. We're both going to just hold each other and freak out. It's great. And Jeremy will win and his dad will take us on a tour of the trailer. Your dad is like a pig and ass over there.

7:26🔗 Caller Oh, my dad. He's a gear head just like you, Adam.

7:29🔗 Adam He couldn't be happier.

7:31🔗 Caller Oh, he's proud of that new truck.

7:33🔗 Adam Oh, he loves it. He told me to take my shoes off for him.

7:35🔗 Caller No, I'm kidding.

7:37🔗 Caller Come on. It's not that bad.

7:39🔗 Adam No, but it is a beautiful facility. And then after the race, we went and watched Steel Roots 2, which is Jeremy's new video release, which was him and parts of like South America. Where the hell were you?

7:51🔗 Caller Yeah, we spent about 14 days down in Brazil and did some great filming down there. Went to crazy places. Like, I mean, we went to one place called the Adaguar River, which was, I mean, it was about 60 or 70 miles on a dirt road out in the middle of nowhere. And this type of thing only happens once a year, you know, when the river goes down and they get sandbanks, right? It's weird. They go out there and they set up these all-inclusive, you know, weekend trips for the kids that are out there. And we brought these little, we brought the bikes, of course, and then we put them on these little tiny motorboats. And we had access to a helicopter and all this fun stuff.

8:31🔗 Adam So yeah, it's really, it's shot beautifully. It's amazing looking. And it's like these motorcycles laying across these rafts being pushed down a river. And then when they hit shore, they hop on the bike, tear up some endangered species, beat up some locals, and then it's, you know, back home again. It's a really cool video. I'll tell you, I really, I had an ass full of supercross that night between all the races and the, and the motor video and the video and the whole thing. But I still hadn't had my fill by the end of the night. So Carla?

9:07🔗 Caller Yes.

9:07🔗 Adam You're 28. What's up?

9:09🔗 Caller Um, this is for Dr. Drew. My boyfriend and I, he tries fisting me. Actually, we've done it about six or seven times. But there's usually a lot of blood, like, it's like menstrual blood, but I don't get, I don't menstruate.

9:26🔗 Adam Is he wearing a graduation ring or a Super Bowl ring or a championship ring, anything like that?

9:32🔗 Caller No, no jewelry. And I always make sure his nails are cut.

9:35🔗 Adam I see.

9:36🔗 Drew This is vaginal fisting, yeah?

9:38🔗 Adam I'm hoping so. I'm really hoping it. We're talking about vaginal fisting?

9:42🔗 Caller Yes.

9:43🔗 Drew And that feels good to you?

9:45🔗 Caller Yes, it does.

9:46🔗 Adam Now, how does it work? Do you make the fist and then do it, or do you put it in like you're trying to get something out of a mason jar and then make the fist?

9:55🔗 Caller No, he usually starts by his fingers first and then, I don't know, his fist goes in.

10:03🔗 Drew And it feels good.

10:05🔗 Caller Now, do you get down to the wrist watch area?

10:08🔗 Caller Um, yes.

10:10🔗 Caller Wow.

10:11🔗 Adam How far in does this usually go?

10:13🔗 Caller What do you mean?

10:14🔗 Adam Well, I mean, we talk in wrist, forearm, elbow, shoulder.

10:18🔗 Caller To his wrist.

10:19🔗 Adam I see.

10:21🔗 Caller But you know the thing, I thought that it would be okay, because I was previously married and I had three children. And I'm divorced now. And I thought after having three children, it should be okay. You know what I'm saying?

10:33🔗 Drew Did it hurt?

10:35🔗 Caller Excuse me?

10:35🔗 Drew Did it hurt?

10:36🔗 Caller No.

10:38🔗 Adam Hey, but Carolla, I mean, I mean, you should definitely, should she get herself checked out?

10:43🔗 Drew Absolutely. God knows what you've done. But you know, when you're delivering a baby, there's all sorts of other hormonal influences. There's a hormone called relaxin that actually relaxes all the ligaments and tendons. And so things can spread apart more easily. You don't have any of that circulating right now. Okay. So your logic about taking care of a baby's head, therefore a fish should be no big deal.

11:04🔗 Adam Yeah. Hey, Carolla, hey, mother of three.

11:08🔗 Drew Yeah.

11:08🔗 Adam Yeah. Maybe, maybe your fisting days are behind you. I mean, I know.

11:13🔗 Drew Be careful what you say to her.

11:15🔗 Adam I, you know, I don't mean behind you, but I mean in your past.

11:19🔗 Caller Well, this is my first time trying it. You know, if somebody knew I was married to somebody very boring before, and I thought I would, you know, try new things.

11:26🔗 Drew What, you said you've done this four or five times?

11:28🔗 Caller We have done this with my boyfriend.

11:32🔗 Adam The new guy.

11:32🔗 Caller Not with my previous husband. Not with my ex-husband.

11:35🔗 Adam All right. Well, why don't you give the fist a rest and try a footing? No.

11:40🔗 Drew All right. All kinds of injuries could have occurred. You need to get this checked out, okay? Hopefully it's nothing.

11:45🔗 Adam Well, what should she say happened?

11:46🔗 Drew Are you due for your period now?

11:48🔗 Caller No. Actually, I take the shot, so I don't menstruate.

11:53🔗 Adam You take the depot shot?

11:54🔗 Caller Yes.

11:55🔗 Adam All right. Are you okay emotionally? Is everything fine?

12:01🔗 Caller Everything's fine, yes.

12:02🔗 Adam Okay. All right, Carl. A good time, right?

12:06🔗 Caller Yes.

12:06🔗 Adam Yeah. Okay. I'm not sure what's in it for people. I don't know what's in it for the fister or the fisty. I really don't. And to me, I'm a little suspicious of both parties here. You know what I mean? It's just... And listen, I'm not that pleasant a guy sexually, but even this is what I would call crossing the line. Mike? Yeah. You're... I mean, you're really punching out the vaginas, what you're doing. It's very symbolic. You know what I mean?

12:35🔗 Caller It's Glass Joe, you know?

12:37🔗 Adam Mike?

12:38🔗 Yes.

12:38🔗 Adam Yeah, you're 25. What's up?

12:40🔗 Caller Yeah. Well, first of all, I want to say I love your show. You know, I know you hear it all the time.

12:44🔗 Adam Thanks.

12:45🔗 Caller Anyway, I get that out of the way.

12:47🔗 Adam What's up?

12:47🔗 Caller I wanted to tell you about, let's see, my wife recently, this past weekend, well, basically she had a threesome with another couple and it kind of bothered me. I mean, we've had stuff we've messed around before, you know, in the past, like about a year ago.

13:03🔗 Drew It kind of bothered you.

13:05🔗 Caller Yeah.

13:05🔗 Drew Why isn't it a total meltdown for you?

13:08🔗 Caller Well, because, I mean, I see why she did it because she didn't think anything was wrong with it.

13:13🔗 Adam Oh, okay.

13:14🔗 Drew Well, if that's all, then that's fine.

13:15🔗 Caller Had you guys talked about this previously?

13:17🔗 Drew If she'd murdered someone, did you see anything wrong with that? Would that be okay with you, too?

13:20🔗 Caller I'm sorry, what was that?

13:20🔗 Drew All right.

13:21🔗 Adam All right, like Jeremy had a question. Go ahead, Jeremy.

13:24🔗 Caller Yeah, had you guys talked about this previously or what?

13:27🔗 Caller Yeah, we've actually done it before with another female.

13:30🔗 Adam Uh-huh, but you weren't there at this episode, right?

13:33🔗 Caller Exactly, I wasn't there and I didn't know about it until afterwards.

13:35🔗 Adam And this is with a woman and a man?

13:38🔗 Caller Yeah, another married couple.

13:39🔗 Adam A couple that you knew?

13:41🔗 Caller Uh, yeah.

13:42🔗 Adam Okay, well, you know, you got a free pass now, brother.

13:45🔗 Caller Well, yeah, either that or the leash is a little long.

13:48🔗 Caller That's what my brother told me. Well, I mean, the thing is, it was fine when she first told me. Then I kind of thought about it and I didn't like it because I was kind of left out. And then it was fine again and I don't know if it's just, I'm just kind of not really sure.

14:03🔗 Drew This is going to eat you up alive.

14:05🔗 Adam Oh, well, don't ruin it.

14:06🔗 Drew It's going to.

14:07🔗 Adam Well, listen.

14:08🔗 Drew This is why this crap never works.

14:09🔗 Adam Hold on a second. Mike.

14:11🔗 Yeah.

14:12🔗 Adam Did she sneak out or were you at work and she neglected to tell you?

14:17🔗 Caller Well, I was at work and she went on like her theater group thing, went off and did something.

14:24🔗 Adam And why is it that she told you?

14:27🔗 Caller Because she didn't think anything wrong with it.

14:28🔗 Adam Are you sure or are you sure she didn't want to get your dander up a little?

14:31🔗 Drew What do you think the story is on Mike's wife?

14:34🔗 Adam I'm going to go comes from a lot of chaos. Oh, boy.

14:37🔗 Caller Well, yeah, I think she does, but...

14:40🔗 Adam Where does she come from?

14:42🔗 Drew There's got to be sexual abuse.

14:43🔗 Caller Well, not 100% sure. I mean, I've heard, like...

14:46🔗 Drew Mike, she had to have been sexually abused, period.

14:49🔗 Caller Well, the thing is, I mean, she probably, you know...

14:52🔗 Drew She was sexually abused... Look, why aren't you connected with reality, Mike? What do you mean? Well, I don't know, maybe. What kind of hurt stuff? It's your wife we're talking about here. You need at least to be able to assess who this person is. She's got significant issues here. And some of them may be putting you, God knows, in harm's way and certainly putting your relationship in harm's way. She may be bipolar. She may be... She clearly has sexual abuse history. And you're married to her and you have no idea who this person is.

15:22🔗 Adam Do you have any kids with her?

15:23🔗 Caller Yeah.

15:24🔗 Adam Oh, that's always smart. Oh, how many?

15:28🔗 Caller Just one.

15:29🔗 Adam All right, send him back. You can still get an annulment from your child, I think. Oh, okay. If they're under four years old. Hey, Mike, listen, on behalf of your child, right? Yeah. You got to get some counseling, get into this relationship, stop and get your head out of the sand here. She's had some, made some mistakes. She had some trouble in her past, but you got to open up your eyes and work this out. All right, no more acting out. You guys are parents now, right?

15:58🔗 Drew Yeah.

15:58🔗 Adam You don't need your kid raised by this.

16:00🔗 Drew He doesn't want to know what's going on.

16:03🔗 Adam I know, but I'm telling you, Mike, it's time to find out. You got to step up to that.

16:07🔗 Caller All right.

16:08🔗 Adam All right.

16:09🔗 Caller Cool.

16:09🔗 Adam Thank you. All right.

16:10🔗 Caller Yeah. Oh, my God.

16:13🔗 Adam Let me tell you something. Everything that feels weird is weird. That's what I've learned from this show. I mean, if my nuts hurt while they're telling me, then it ain't normal. Do you know what I mean?

16:24🔗 Drew That's why you were able to remark on the fisting, for instance. Yeah. Your nuts hurt.

16:27🔗 Adam The fillings in my nuts hurt. Do you realize that Ted Dental worked on my testicles?

16:32🔗 Caller The nougat?

16:36🔗 Adam Seth?

16:37🔗 Yeah.

16:37🔗 Adam Year 13.

16:38🔗 Yeah, what's up? I have a question for Jeremy.

16:40🔗 Adam Here he is.

16:40🔗 Caller How's it going, Seth?

16:41🔗 Caller Seth, I just want to say, you're my idol, man.

16:43🔗 Caller I love you, man.

16:44🔗 Caller You are the goddess to the grass.

16:47🔗 Caller Well, thanks a lot, man. I appreciate that.

16:49🔗 Caller Yeah, I have a question, though.

16:50🔗 Caller How can we not race outdoors no more?

16:53🔗 Caller Well, there's a lot of question about that, actually. I've been racing for a long time, had a long professional career, and I guess a couple of years ago, I decided there's a lot of work, this series, and Supercross has been very good for me. I seem to get along with Supercross a little better. I'm maybe a little better at that. And I figured to make my career maybe a little bit longer, have a little more fun, and not get such a burnout feeling, I figured that I'd race Supercross only and cut down the work schedule a little bit.

17:31🔗 Adam Isn't Supercross sort of the final destination anyway for most of these riders?

17:35🔗 Caller Well, it's kind of a, I don't know, it's controversy, I guess. Supercross seems to be the biggest part of our sport, and because you get the stadiums, you get 60,000 fans a weekend and...

17:49🔗 Adam Yeah, I mean, to me, it's like saying a guy plays in the arena leagues and he plays in the NFL, and then he makes it to the NFL, and you're asking, why isn't he playing some arena ball? And it's like, he doesn't want to get injured. He's making a lot of money, he's on with a good team, and he's at the, I mean, there's 55,000 people there.

18:06🔗 Caller Yeah. Well, except for, you know, the youth, like the kids that are coming up and stuff like that. Motocross is where they grow up. There's really no Supercross for amateur kids. And, you know, all through your amateur career, you race Motocross, and that's what it's all about. And, you know, I caught a lot of flack for a long time deciding to race Supercross only because, you know, people are like, oh, you're not core enough. You know, what about the Motocross fans? That's where you came from.

18:32🔗 Adam And what, but what are the other, like, top five riders do? Do they race both?

18:37🔗 Caller Yeah, I think I am the only one that races Supercross only. And normally what happens is January to May is we race Supercross. And then from Mother's Day weekend until September spread out through there, there's 13 outdoor Motocross races.

18:53🔗 Adam Yeah, but I mean, you really do risk injury every time you run a race, Seth. And if you're making money and if getting injured means you're going to lose a lot of it, then you got to make a business decision, all right? Hey Seth, all right, you all right, buddy?

19:10🔗 Caller Yeah, I got one more question for him.

19:11🔗 Adam Yeah.

19:12🔗 How many more years do you got left?

19:14🔗 Caller Well, that's a good question.

19:15🔗 Drew He's waiting to die right now.

19:17🔗 Caller Yeah, if you would have asked me, I suppose you're talking about my racing career here.

19:21🔗 Drew Yeah.

19:21🔗 Caller Obviously, if you would have asked me that five years ago, I would have figured I'd be done racing by now. When I was younger, 21, 22, I was like, okay, I'm going to be retired by the time I'm 26 from racing.

19:34🔗 Drew When I'm really old. Yeah.

19:36🔗 Caller Well, at the time when I was coming up, when I was 21 years old, the guys that were 26 and 27 were retiring already. So that was what I had to look up to.

19:46🔗 Drew Because of multiple injuries and things?

19:48🔗 Caller Either that or it was burnout. You race so much for so long and to try and stay at that level for such a long time, you just get burned out.

19:57🔗 Adam And do you think that, this just popped in my head, but as you know, I used to ride the old Elsinore Red Racer 79 250. It was a Honda that laid down shocks. Not much travel on that baby, Drew, but those bikes beat you up a little more than the newer ones. I mean, I know now you're getting more height, you're getting more speed, but are the tracks better, the bikes better, or is it a little easier on your body than it was like in the 70s, let's say?

20:25🔗 Caller Yeah, I would say it's, I mean the equipment's definitely much, much better than when you raced, Adam, or when you rode.

20:31🔗 Adam Let me tell you something, I used to go out and run the track at the Crack of Dawn, Drew, looking at, trying to pick a line.

20:37🔗 Drew Or was that Ventura Boulevard?

20:38🔗 Adam Yeah. Let me tell you something, here was my-

20:39🔗 Caller Jump some curves or something.

20:40🔗 Adam Here's my motto, when the green flag dropped, the BS stopped. I can't say the whole thing, but you know what I mean.

20:47🔗 Caller You know, the equipment's definitely better, the tracks are a little better, actually a lot better, the landings are better now, and the riders are better. You know, I guess you can get pretty beat up if you crash a lot and stuff like that, but overall it's not too bad anymore.

21:02🔗 Adam All right, let's talk to-

21:05🔗 Drew Break time.

21:05🔗 Adam All right, we'll take ourselves a little break. We are back with the best of Loveline. I'm Adam, that is Drew, and please enjoy Lincoln Park. Mike, Joe and Chester are all here from Lincoln Park. We will hear something off Hybrid Theory, which is the name of their newest CD, and some time in the next half hour or so. When we left off, we were going to speak to Cephas, I believe. He's 25 years old. Cephas?

21:41🔗 Caller Yes.

21:42🔗 Adam What's up?

21:42🔗 Caller Hi, Cephas. Drew, I just want to say I appreciate you. Adam, you're a madman, and Lincoln Park, you guys are dope. Thank you very much. This goes out to Drew, more than anybody. I just got married two weeks ago, and up until that time, I abstained from masturbating and having sex. For how long? For a year, and I wanted to make it special when I married my wife right now.

22:11🔗 Drew Is she someone you had had sex with previously?

22:14🔗 Caller No, I had not had sex with her previously, but the last girl that I had had sex with, the same problem existed. I would try to have sex, and I cannot ejaculate, and so I can't come inside of a girl, inside, in a rubber or without one. They could be on the pill, or the only way that I am able to come.

22:36🔗 I can't even, even with oral, or-

22:39🔗 Drew Okay, well Adam has a theory about this one.

22:41🔗 Okay.

22:41🔗 Adam I do? Yes.

22:44🔗 Drew The used to it theory.

22:45🔗 Adam Oh, I see. Yeah. So, did you masturbate excessively before you went cold jerky for that year?

22:52🔗 Caller Uh, no. I, well, I've had, you know, I've had lots of sex partners, but I've been masturbating, like, since I'm probably the age of, uh, eight.

23:02🔗 Eight. Yeah. Eight? Eight?

23:04🔗 Adam With results? With something coming, coming out of you at eight?

23:07🔗 Caller Uh, at the age of 11, I, I can remember when it didn't come out, but at the age of 11, I can remember the first time, actually, uh.

23:14🔗 Adam Wow.

23:15🔗 Drew But it kind of suggests that you were sort of inappropriately aroused potentially at a young age. Was there a lot of porn or something in your house?

23:22🔗 Caller Uh, no, not a lot of porn. I found a back massager in my parents' dressing. You know, it's just a, like, an old Sears back massager. And I was like, yahoo! You know, I stuck it down my pants and was like, whoa.

23:34🔗 Caller Yeah.

23:38🔗 Caller That is so good.

23:39🔗 Caller And I mean, I thought it was the next best thing to my mom's packed lunches, you know.

23:44🔗 Okay, so you masturbated in those, too?

23:48🔗 Caller Well, I wouldn't go that far, but my major problem is that my wife is feeling the results of this.

23:55🔗 Adam All right, now.

23:56🔗 Drew I wonder if that sort of desensitized some of his developmental pathways, you know? If some of that arousal inappropriately with a mechanical device made him sort of desensitized in some way.

24:07🔗 Adam I just think it's funny how long it takes a vibrating object to go from a guy holding it up and examining it to right on to the junk.

24:15🔗 Drew Even before he knows what the junk's all about.

24:17🔗 Adam 8.3 seconds, that saves the average. I know a guy whose first masturbatory experience was with a pad sander. You know those Finnish sanders, those vibrating sanders? Think about that.

24:31🔗 Caller That would certainly desynthetize you.

24:33🔗 Adam It took him a few years to work out the battery pack so he could get it into school. Sivas, do you have sex with no difficulties and then finish yourself off at the end?

24:48🔗 Caller I can stay up and go like a madman for hours.

24:52🔗 Adam Right.

24:52🔗 Caller And then she'll have multiple orgasms.

24:55🔗 Adam Right.

24:56🔗 Caller I mean, but with as far as me, I just cannot.

25:02🔗 Adam Then you finish yourself off.

25:04🔗 Caller No, it's not like I have to then, like because I have like a butt fetish too, so I have to have to look at her butt for me to even be able to.

25:15🔗 Adam Right.

25:15🔗 Caller But Sivas, are you sure you're not gay?

25:18🔗 Drew No, no, no.

25:19🔗 Caller No, I'm absolutely positively a lesbian.

25:23🔗 Drew I love women.

25:25🔗 Adam Sivas though, you do then finish yourself off at the end.

25:28🔗 Caller Yes.

25:29🔗 Adam Okay.

25:29🔗 Caller There's no other way.

25:30🔗 Caller I mean. Right.

25:31🔗 Adam Okay.

25:32🔗 Drew Hold on. Relax.

25:32🔗 Adam What I was stating an hour ago, I just want to make sure we're on the same page. So then you stare at her ass and you finish yourself off.

25:39🔗 Caller Right.

25:39🔗 Adam Now, what position are you in when you're finishing yourself off?

25:43🔗 Caller Upside down, turn around on the counter top everywhere.

25:46🔗 Drew I mean, we do that when you finish.

25:48🔗 Caller Oh, when I finish?

25:50🔗 Adam Hold on a second. He has like a tension deficit disorder or something. He has some kind of screw loose kind of energy going on. He can barely sort of stay with the conversation.

26:03🔗 Drew It may just be anxiety.

26:04🔗 Adam Cephas?

26:05🔗 Yes.

26:06🔗 Adam When you finish yourself off, after you're done doing your wife in every room of the house, what position are you in?

26:16🔗 Caller Usually on the bed, just on my back.

26:18🔗 Adam On your back, on the bed with your legs out in front of you, right?

26:22🔗 Yes, sir.

26:22🔗 Adam Now, what if you assume that same position and she then got on top of you and turned around, good call, Drew, turned around so that you could see the TV set more. No, what were you going at? Oh, yes, you could see her ass. Don't you think something may come out of you at that point?

26:42🔗 Caller Tried it. Yeah, I did try it and tried it numerous of times.

26:47🔗 Adam What if you got yourself going to right at the brink that she jumped on top?

26:52🔗 Caller Well, that's how she got pregnant. I mean, I got myself going.

26:57🔗 Adam Right.

26:57🔗 Caller And right before I was ready to erupt, she would jump on and finish.

27:04🔗 Adam OK, now, what if you do that same technique, but except for right before you're ready to erupt, you knock it back a few minutes?

27:13🔗 Drew Or if vibrator is what's sort of desensitizing, what about getting something like that back involved?

27:17🔗 Adam Yeah. How about putting that in your ass? What do you say?

27:21🔗 Caller I mean, maybe your wife could also, you know, offer a hand in that at the end, too, that might help her feel like she's contributing to you.

27:31🔗 Caller In what way offer, like doing what?

27:34🔗 Caller Well, instead of you finishing yourself off, why don't you let your wife finish you off?

27:38🔗 Caller That's the thing. As soon as she touches me or it won't work. It's like I have this position that I put my hand on it and it's like I can only ejaculate that way.

27:51🔗 Drew She's like a...

27:52🔗 Adam Right. You have a certain technique.

27:54🔗 Caller It's like a comfort zone, you know, and I'm stuck there.

27:57🔗 Drew The real thing.

27:57🔗 Adam I know. All right. Here's what's going on. He is...

28:00🔗 Caller Pull me out of here, dude.

28:01🔗 Adam No, I know what's going on. I mean, you've been doing this so often and for so long and your penis is used to this very specific sensation and anything else feels sort of foreign. But a lot of it is emotional and psychological and you have to sort of get over that hump, pardon the pun.

28:21🔗 Drew Yeah.

28:21🔗 Adam And I would say that if you worked on yourself a little bit and instead of getting right to the brink, you got a few minutes away from the brink and got her on top and you went, all you need is one of those to then sort of erase the stigma in your mind and be able to go forward.

28:39🔗 Drew And you got to find a way not to be so anxious about it. You're so anxious you can't even follow a conversation. You got to calm down about all this.

28:44🔗 Caller Okay.

28:45🔗 Drew Okay.

28:45🔗 Adam Yeah.

28:46🔗 Caller Just slow it down.

28:47🔗 Drew Yeah.

28:47🔗 Adam Yeah. Just relax, do some Quail Oats or something, or smoke some hash.

28:52🔗 Caller Get on some Ritalin.

28:54🔗 Drew I'm sure you have been on, yes?

28:55🔗 Caller No, I haven't.

28:56🔗 Adam No? Has anyone suggested?

28:58🔗 Caller No SSRIs, like the Serotonin Reuptake Contemporary.

29:01🔗 Drew But just as a kid you weren't suggested you'd be on Ritalin? Okay, all right, so just anxiety.

29:05🔗 Adam What do you do for a living?

29:06🔗 Caller What do I do? I counsel high school kids.

29:09🔗 Caller I'm a counselor.

29:10🔗 Adam Wow.

29:11🔗 Caller Maybe that's the problem.

29:12🔗 Adam Really?

29:12🔗 Drew No, no.

29:13🔗 Caller Very well could be.

29:14🔗 Drew Eight minutes with it, right?

29:15🔗 Adam I got the wrong guy. All right, C-Fish. Good luck, pal.

29:18🔗 Caller Guys, to that band, man, you guys rock, man. I'd never heard of you before, but good luck with your careers. I think you guys are going to make it.

29:26🔗 Drew Thanks, C-Fish.

29:27🔗 Caller All right.

29:29🔗 Drew What do you give the wheezes aphorism about this stuff?

29:34🔗 Adam Juice them up and go? What's the wheezes aphorism? What do you mean?

29:39🔗 Drew Sex is good, but.

29:40🔗 Adam Oh, no, no, that's snake's aphorism, which is sex is good, but it's not the real thing, and then he does the hand gesture, and we all laugh hysterically. It was funny when I was 19, at least. But I think he's got to get his wife involved, and I think he had the right plan there of her hopping on at the end. Now he ought to see if he can have her hop on a little bit sooner and a little bit sooner, and eventually, all his penis has to do is get used to it one time that way, and he'll be fine.

30:09🔗 He needs some practice, right?

30:11🔗 Caller Right, absolutely.

30:12🔗 Drew It's so fascinating to think, though, is this, I mean, he fetishizes, is there some psychological issue? I mean, was he hyper aroused at a young age, or was it merely that he got his hands on this instrument that desensitized him in some way at such a young age that developmental pathways didn't even set up?

30:26🔗 Adam Right. I think it's probably all of the above. Jessica?

30:31🔗 Yes.

30:31🔗 Adam You're 19, what's up?

30:33🔗 Caller Okay, I've been on Depro Povera for about four and a half years, and so I haven't had a normal period for a long time. And I know that's how the body naturally cleanses out the vagina and everything, and so I'm wondering if there's a different way to, I guess, cleanse myself out, since I'm not...

30:51🔗 Drew No, there's no cleansing needed because you don't overgrow the endometria.

30:54🔗 Adam What about the seltzer?

30:56🔗 Drew Yeah, the seltzer one would be good. So Jessica, no, that's the way this thing is designed to be used.

31:02🔗 Caller Well, I've had a lot of bacterial vaginosis and yeast infections, and so...

31:08🔗 Drew There you go. You have your sex a lot?

31:10🔗 Caller Yeah.

31:10🔗 Drew Okay, well, that's where that comes from.

31:13🔗 Adam But that doesn't have to do with her not sloughing off.

31:17🔗 Drew No, nothing.

31:18🔗 Adam Okay, well, it's not a bad thing.

31:19🔗 Caller Isn't there medication that they can take to get rid of all that stuff?

31:24🔗 Drew The yeast infections?

31:25🔗 Caller Yeah, and the odor and things like that.

31:27🔗 Drew Yeah, absolutely. I'm sure she's been treated a number of times, right? Yeah. Yeah, and so it's something very simple to treat. The problem is you can pass it back and forth. Partners can give it to you. Any sort of disruption of that sensitive environment in the vagina can actually trigger off these kinds of infections.

31:40🔗 Adam Are some women just prone to this?

31:41🔗 Drew Yeah.

31:42🔗 Adam And they change their diet or do anything differently?

31:45🔗 Drew Yeah, you know, I've had patients where you could never... You know, people thought it was... Where they thought it was something coming from the colon or how they wiped... I'm all kinds of theories. But most of the time, no matter what, you can't figure it out with the people that have recurrence of these problems.

31:57🔗 Adam All right. Jessica?

31:59🔗 Caller Yes.

31:59🔗 Adam Good luck with the vagina.

32:01🔗 Caller But does it have to do with it?

32:01🔗 Adam We're all pulling for it.

32:02🔗 Drew No, probably not.

32:04🔗 Caller With the depo for varia?

32:05🔗 Drew Probably not. And there is an estrogen combo with the depo for varia now. You could talk to a doctor about that, that might create some bleeding.

32:12🔗 Adam Yeah, you supersize that depo shot. And you get the side estrogen, all right?

32:18🔗 Caller An intense mood swing.

32:19🔗 Adam Yeah, I'll have the Thousand Island and the estrogen.

32:23🔗 Drew That actually is a serious issue. The mood disturbances from depo for varia can be really serious. And so you need to talk about that with your doctor. That to me is a reason potentially to stop it.

32:32🔗 Adam Philip?

32:33🔗 Yes.

32:35🔗 Adam You're 32, what's up?

32:38🔗 Caller Well, I'm from the LA area. And my wife really likes the band. And I want to tell you guys, your record's really definitely great. But, you know, I took off work and I drove my wife up to the show in Phoenix where you guys played. And, you know, we were married a couple years. She's younger than me. And, you know, after the show we were hanging out. And, you know, she was kind of like talking to a few of the guys that work for the band. And, you know, she wanted to go back and get an autograph and stuff. And, you know, this big bald guy who works there.

33:11🔗 Drew Already this is BS. This is BS.

33:12🔗 Caller We love you, Stefano.

33:14🔗 Caller Zuka? Zuka?

33:15🔗 Caller Zuka, Zuka.

33:15🔗 Caller Smoke the Crane.

33:19🔗 Adam Who knew it?

33:20🔗 Caller There you go. That's our guitar guy.

33:25🔗 Caller That's our boy.

33:26🔗 Adam What's his name?

33:27🔗 Caller Stefano. But we can call him Stephanie on the show.

33:30🔗 Adam Stephanie. Are you calling from North Hollywood?

33:34🔗 Caller Yeah.

33:34🔗 Adam That's God's country out there, isn't it?

33:37🔗 Caller He smokes the Crane. Beautiful.

33:41🔗 I love you guys.

33:42🔗 Caller We love you too, man.

33:43🔗 Caller Peace out.

33:45🔗 Adam Thanks, Stefano. Hey, if you're a guitar tech, you get to get out there and like play some licks before the band hits the stage, right? Yeah. Yeah, we thought that'd be pretty cool. Sometimes if you play big enough venues, the crowd thinks it's the band. You know what I'm talking about?

34:00🔗 Caller Not with our crew.

34:01🔗 Adam Oh, I see. Yeah.

34:02🔗 Caller No, trust me. Not with our crew.

34:08🔗 Adam Cheryl.

34:09🔗 Caller Yeah.

34:09🔗 Adam You're 15.

34:11🔗 Caller I'm 17.

34:12🔗 Adam You're 17. What's up?

34:15🔗 Caller Like a little while ago, I've been with my boyfriend for like a couple of months now and he asked me to shave my pubic hair a little while ago, like a couple weeks ago. And I'm not like really hairy or really bushy or anything. He just, I don't know, he thought that it would be like kind of sexy, I guess. And so I did last like a couple, like a couple of days ago and I was fine because I wasn't wearing underwear for a while because I thought it would like, I don't know, give it some time to, I don't know, so I wouldn't irritate the skin or whatever.

34:42🔗 Adam Did you shave it clean?

34:44🔗 Caller No, just like, I don't know, a little, a little make it a little less.

34:49🔗 Caller I don't know.

34:51🔗 Caller Yeah.

34:52🔗 Adam Wow. You really got, you really have a gift for words there. I don't know, just-

34:56🔗 Drew Gabby, Gabby, Gabby, share all the color.

34:59🔗 Adam Was, I mean, was it like, you know, quarter inch long, the hair, eight inch?

35:03🔗 Caller No, no, no, I mean, he just like, shaved it like small, like-

35:07🔗 Drew He shaved it?

35:08🔗 Caller No, he didn't, he wanted me to shave it like smaller so that like, it's more cuter. I don't know.

35:15🔗 Caller He just kind of wanted to mow the lawn.

35:16🔗 Adam On the sides, you mean?

35:17🔗 Caller Yeah, like on the sides and on the top and stuff, just make it a little, like, like, in porn they always have these little triangles. I don't know.

35:24🔗 Adam Right.

35:24🔗 Caller So.

35:25🔗 Drew It's easy for you to talk about isn't it, Cheryl?

35:27🔗 Caller Oh, sorry.

35:28🔗 Adam That's alright. Okay, so you did that.

35:31🔗 Caller Yeah, and as soon as I started wearing underwear again, like it really irritated the skin and now I have these like red bumps and they like itch.

35:39🔗 Adam Right.

35:39🔗 Caller Yeah.

35:40🔗 Drew Didn't somebody tell us about some cream that worked really well for that?

35:43🔗 Adam Yeah.

35:44🔗 What the hell was that?

35:45🔗 Caller I don't get it.

35:46🔗 Drew Who told us about that?

35:47🔗 Adam I was talking about it with one of our guests.

35:50🔗 Drew Yeah.

35:51🔗 Adam Who used it.

35:52🔗 Drew Something that had changed the canister or something you guys can describe.

35:55🔗 Adam Yeah. They have stuff for that. You know, you can go to the beauty supply store and get that kind of stuff.

36:01🔗 Caller Okay.

36:02🔗 Adam It's called the badge goo.

36:05🔗 Caller No. What was that?

36:07🔗 Adam It wouldn't be a bad name for something. I'd buy a can of that.

36:11🔗 Caller It's oof. No.

36:13🔗 Adam I know what the stuff is called. I can't remember the name of it. But the point is, if you go to a beauty supply store and tell them you want to get some cream or some salve or something for bikini waxing or bikini area, they'll give you something.

36:28🔗 Drew Ten Skin? Ten Skin is the name of the stuff.

36:31🔗 Caller Well, how fast will it go away, though?

36:34🔗 Adam A couple months.

36:35🔗 Drew Ten Skin? Listen, Ten Skin, and if it's a folliculitis, sometimes it can actually really be a genuine infection.

36:40🔗 Caller What?

36:41🔗 Drew It's infection of the hair follicle, basically, irritation of the hair follicle. Okay. And Adam swears by this Ten Skin.

36:47🔗 Adam Yeah, I think you put a little oxy, a little oxy five or ten on there. Yeah, absolutely.

36:52🔗 Drew He uses that as neck, and that's why he swears it's good for the cubic area.

36:56🔗 Adam Well, why not? It's the same thing. I mean, well, hold on a second. You shave, you know, you shave the hair.

37:02🔗 Drew It's different skin up there. A lot different.

37:04🔗 Adam You're saying the, you're trying to tell me that the skin on my neck is not exactly the same as a woman's vagina?

37:11🔗 Drew That's what I'm saying.

37:12🔗 Adam How dare you?

37:13🔗 It's very close.

37:14🔗 Adam Dare you humiliate me in front of the band?

37:16🔗 Drew It looks the same.

37:17🔗 Adam No, it's the same theory, though. It's the same stuff, which is you shave these hairs, these hairs are thick, coarse hairs. For me, it's not a different hair. I have pubic hair on my neck.

37:29🔗 Drew Very attractive.

37:30🔗 Adam You know what I'm saying?

37:30🔗 Drew Yeah, I got it.

37:34🔗 Love Line with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

37:35🔗 Adam This is Love Line of Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Lincoln Park is our guest tonight. Mike Joneschester, all here from the band. Hybrid Theory is the name of the CD. And let's hop back to the phones and talk to Chris. Chris is 19. Chris?

37:52🔗 Caller How's it going, man?

37:53🔗 Adam Good.

37:53🔗 Caller How you guys doing?

37:55🔗 Drew Good. What's going on there?

37:56🔗 Caller Okay. I have a girlfriend. She's also 19. And we have a 15-month-old son. Okay. Problem is when she was younger, she kind of sort of had a kind of sort of like a molestation scare. It was a family member that kind of sort of acted on an impulse and just kind of sort of freaked her out when she was in kindergarten.

38:25🔗 Drew What did he do?

38:27🔗 Caller I guess they were just like walking. And he pulled her into like some bushes and jumped on top of her and started kissing her. And then he realized what he did and got off and that was it. Okay.

38:40🔗 Adam How much older? How old was she?

38:43🔗 Drew Six.

38:43🔗 Caller Six? Kindergarten.

38:45🔗 Adam And how old was he?

38:47🔗 Caller Probably about three or four years older.

38:50🔗 Drew Nine.

38:51🔗 Caller Somewhere about there.

38:52🔗 Adam All right.

38:54🔗 Drew That's not it. Whatever is going on now, that's not what it's from.

38:58🔗 Adam How do you know? Maybe nothing is going on now. Okay, let's see. It could have been college to say everything was okay.

39:05🔗 Caller And about when she was a freshman in high school, okay, she was raped. I believe that she was with some friends or whatever and she got high and he started hitting on her and she passed out and woke up and he was on top of her and she went and passed out again.

39:30🔗 Caller Okay.

39:33🔗 Caller I believe a couple months later she got raped again.

39:36🔗 Drew Okay.

39:37🔗 Caller Okay. I got, she never told anybody. Me and her started going out our sophomore year and she's the only person, I'm the only person she's ever told about that.

39:50🔗 Drew What's your question?

39:51🔗 Adam So she got raped after you start going out or before?

39:55🔗 Caller Before.

39:55🔗 Drew Twice before.

39:56🔗 Adam Twice before. Okay.

39:58🔗 Caller We also separated for a month and she got raped then too.

40:01🔗 Drew There's more here than even you know, I suspect. But go ahead. What's the question?

40:06🔗 Caller Okay. The question is, since we have a son, she needs to address this. She's gone to a therapist before and she really liked him and everything, but she never told him about that. Okay. I'm the only person she's ever told about that.

40:20🔗 Drew How long she go to therapy for?

40:23🔗 Caller Six months.

40:24🔗 Drew Can she get back with that person?

40:25🔗 Adam Nope. Okay. How about-

40:27🔗 Caller They left because-

40:28🔗 Adam He raped her so they're not talking. Exactly. How about a female therapist? That would probably be better for her.

40:35🔗 Caller I'm not sure if she really doesn't really want to go to a therapist, you know. She doesn't talk about it, you know.

40:42🔗 Adam What's her family like?

40:44🔗 Caller Screwed up.

40:44🔗 Drew Yeah.

40:45🔗 Adam Shocking because this is somebody who comes from a bad family. If she's getting raped repeatedly and she's not even 20 yet-

40:54🔗 Caller I mean, it's not the same person doing it, but-

40:57🔗 Drew We understand that, but this is not just about rape. This is a much more global issue of her psychiatric health.

41:05🔗 Caller Yeah.

41:05🔗 Drew And that needs to be dealt with. And rape counseling is a great idea. Going to a rape group, a women's group, would be helpful, but it will not be the whole story.

41:12🔗 Caller Okay.

41:13🔗 Drew She needs to get back to that therapist or find another one and get going.

41:16🔗 Adam Now, don't you agree, though, that she should go to a woman that might help her open up?

41:21🔗 Drew Yeah, yeah.

41:22🔗 Adam And she's got a lot of issues with guys?

41:23🔗 Drew Yeah, yeah, yeah.

41:25🔗 Caller All right.

41:25🔗 Adam So, Chris? Yeah. You need to tell her as a mother now, and I'm sure her mother made a few mistakes with her.

41:34🔗 Caller Oh, yeah.

41:34🔗 Caller Yeah.

41:35🔗 Adam And you need to tell her, listen, you don't want to make the same mistakes your mother made. And I'm sure if we ever scratch beneath the surface of her mother's history, we find a lot of rape and abuse in there, too. I'm almost positive of it.

41:49🔗 Caller I'm a biological mom.

41:51🔗 Adam Well, if I, okay.

41:53🔗 Drew All the more.

41:54🔗 Adam All the more reason to make my argument for it.

41:57🔗 Caller I got you.

41:57🔗 Adam All right, Chris, your instincts are good. And, you know, don't make it all her work. Say, we, we, we, and then go, I made an appointment for you. That's what I do.

42:07🔗 Caller I mean, I try to help her out as much as I can. I mean, her mom won't pay for it. You know, she says if anybody needs therapy, her mom does.

42:13🔗 Drew Well, that's true.

42:15🔗 Caller I have her to pay for everything, you know, but she says the insurance won't cover it and this and that.

42:20🔗 Drew Well, if you're offering to pay for everything, what the hell difference does the insurance make?

42:23🔗 Caller Exactly. All right.

42:24🔗 Adam Hey, Chris.

42:25🔗 Drew Good luck.

42:26🔗 Adam Your instincts are good, but you do have your hands full here. And she's got to get going with this because she will screw that kid up.

42:32🔗 Drew Yep.

42:33🔗 Adam Absolutely.

42:34🔗 Drew All right.

42:34🔗 Adam All right.

42:34🔗 Drew Thanks a lot.

42:35🔗 Adam All right. Well, these guys, it's really like a 19-year-old guy with the 15-month baby and this chick who came from basically a Cuisinart is really like he might as well just be at the helm of a battleship going into battle. You know what I mean? I mean, it just used a transporter from Star Trek to land him at the helm of a battleship during a full-fledged kamikaze attack. You know what I mean? He's not a bad guy, may have a few decent instincts, but it just lost.

43:10🔗 Caller He's got to play it full.

43:11🔗 Adam Right. She's got to get into some therapy. All right. JR.

43:16🔗 Caller Hi.

43:16🔗 Adam Hey, you're 14. What's up?

43:18🔗 Caller I have a question for the Van Link Park. You guys are the best.

43:21🔗 Caller Thanks.

43:22🔗 Caller And I want to know where you guys came up with the name Linkin Park. Like, where did you guys get it from?

43:27🔗 Drew I wanted to know that too.

43:29🔗 Caller Actually, we were in need of a new name, so there's a park in Santa Monica, and it was one of those things I just kind of read it and said, you know, that'd be a cool name for a band. Put it on my list.

43:41🔗 But you need to backtrack, because we used to be called the name of our albums, Hybrid Theory, we used to be called Hybrid Theory, and that name is a little bit, like, confining. Like, if you're called Hybrid Theory, you've got to play a certain type of music. People are expecting you to play, like, this rap rock type of thing. And with a name like Linkin Park, you kind of have a little more, like, room to move, you know? And that's what we liked about it. A lot more vibe, a little less, like, specific, and we could play around with it a little more and let the music define the name.

44:07🔗 Caller Oh, that's cool. And do you guys remember the K-Rock Concert, the free one at Best Buy?

44:12🔗 Oh yeah.

44:13🔗 Caller Of course, of course.

44:15🔗 I was there and I was wondering if you guys remember me.

44:17🔗 Caller I, Chester and Mike, Mike, I gave you a bracelet and I want you to wear my glasses.

44:22🔗 What did it look like, dude?

44:23🔗 Caller What I look like?

44:24🔗 What did the bracelet look like?

44:26🔗 The, huh?

44:28🔗 Adam The one you gave him.

44:29🔗 Caller Oh. It was like a metal one, just like a little ball bracelet. And I asked you where my glasses and you said like, no, I can't sing like that, it's a ball. And then Chester, when I was coming out of the parking lot, I saw on the CD he had bleached hair so I didn't notice you like at the concert, you know? Right. Because he had different hair. And you're coming out and I said nice pants and your girlfriend, I guess, maybe, said thanks. I'm like, well, not you, him. Because they're both wearing red dickies. All right. I was like, go ahead.

44:59🔗 Adam JR? And then you went home and he had some yoo-hoo. Your mom made you a cheese sandwich with some miracle whiff. And what was on TV? It's all right, Jeff. All right, buddy.

45:13🔗 Caller They love you.

45:14🔗 Thanks, dude.

45:15🔗 Caller Take care, man.

45:17🔗 Adam Boy, talk about retracing footsteps.

45:20🔗 Caller It's a very memorable day, I guess.

45:22🔗 Adam Yeah.

45:23🔗 Caller You know, every every second of it.

45:25🔗 Adam That's a fan. And Lincoln Park in Santa Monica, that's on Lincoln, I'm guessing. Yeah. I'm trying to think where that park is.

45:33🔗 Caller It's the one with all the homeless people in it.

45:36🔗 Yeah.

45:36🔗 Caller Just look for the nice neighborhood with the crack dealers in the park. That's the one.

45:40🔗 Adam Right, right.

45:41🔗 Yeah.

45:41🔗 Adam What's the cross street?

45:42🔗 Caller Lincoln and what?

45:44🔗 Caller I'm not even sure, because.

45:45🔗 Caller Washington, I think.

45:46🔗 Caller I don't even know my own home address.

45:50🔗 Caller Not there often enough to know it.

45:52🔗 Caller Exactly.

45:53🔗 Adam Kim?

45:54🔗 Caller Yeah.

45:54🔗 Adam You're 15?

45:55🔗 Caller Yeah.

45:55🔗 Adam What's up?

45:57🔗 Caller I was wondering, OK, how are you guys tonight?

46:00🔗 Caller We're doing great.

46:01🔗 Caller Yeah. OK. That's good. I have a problem. My friends are telling me that I have a split personality.

46:09🔗 Drew And what do they mean by that? Given they're 15, I'm sure they have extensive training.

46:16🔗 Caller It's adults, too. They're telling me that I have a split personality. And like I'll be different around one group of people than I would be with a different group of people.

46:28🔗 Caller Are they saying this like for real? Are they is it like joking or are they serious?

46:31🔗 Caller They're being serious. They're like worried about me.

46:34🔗 Drew Describe to me specific. Hello? She's talking to herself. OK.

46:38🔗 Adam They're personalities. Yeah.

46:41🔗 Caller OK. Sorry.

46:42🔗 Drew Describe to me specifically how you act in one group as opposed to the other.

46:47🔗 Caller Like in one group, they say I'm like really depressed all the time and I won't talk and I'm just totally oblivious to everything. And then in the other group, I'm just like myself. I'm hyper and happy.

47:02🔗 Drew And when you are in either of these states, are you aware of your surroundings? Do you know who you are?

47:08🔗 Caller No, not at all. Yeah.

47:12🔗 Adam Who are you talking to there, Kim?

47:13🔗 Caller My dad.

47:14🔗 No. Yeah.

47:15🔗 Adam Let's talk to him. Put him on. Seriously. No. You don't know where you are. So what are we talking to now?

47:24🔗 Caller I'm talking to, sorry.

47:25🔗 Adam Are we talking to the hyper manic one or are we talking to the depressed morose one?

47:30🔗 Caller I'm talking to myself right now.

47:31🔗 Adam Oh, yourself. Well, which one's yourself?

47:33🔗 Caller The hyper one.

47:35🔗 Drew And when you're not yourself, are you aware of things?

47:37🔗 Caller No.

47:38🔗 Drew You're out of it?

47:39🔗 Caller Yeah.

47:39🔗 Drew Alright, well that's...

47:40🔗 Adam So when you're the depressed one, you're out of it, right?

47:43🔗 Drew You may dissociate a little bit, or you may just have a severe depression and may make you feel kind of out of it. Were you badly abused when you were a child?

47:50🔗 Caller No, not at all.

47:51🔗 Drew Because that's what creates split personality.

47:53🔗 Caller And are these different types of groups of people, are these like different groups of family, or are they your friends? So you got depressed around your friends or you got happy around your friends and when you're with your family you're sad, or is it opposite?

48:06🔗 Caller It's like, it's opposite, it's like, it could be any like different group though, it could switch.

48:13🔗 Drew Are you otherwise okay? Any other symptoms?

48:15🔗 Caller No, it's just I'm not aware of how I'm feeling.

48:19🔗 Drew Alright, it just seems to me that, is this a sudden?

48:22🔗 Adam Alright, listen, I'm deeming this a non-problem.

48:25🔗 Drew Well, I'm deeming it a problem.

48:26🔗 Adam You are?

48:27🔗 Drew I suggest she get worked up medically to make sure it's not something unusual neurologically going on with her, because she seems confused about these symptoms.

48:34🔗 Adam Alright, Lincoln Park is our guest tonight. We'll take a little break. We'll be back. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That is Drew. This is the Best of Loveline, and our next guest is a...

48:51🔗 Drew Well, your friend.

48:53🔗 Adam Ah, dear.

48:54🔗 Drew Dear, dear friend.

48:55🔗 Adam Dear, dear friend.

48:56🔗 Drew Oh, yes.

48:57🔗 Adam I was invited to her wedding, you know.

48:58🔗 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

48:59🔗 Adam Big star, Kathy Griffin. Kathy's So-Called Life is, I'm sorry, Reality. It was another show. My tongue got going in that direction.

49:08🔗 Caller I'm not coming of age in the show at all. I'm just dishing the reality shows.

49:11🔗 Adam That's right. And you do Temptation Island.

49:16🔗 Caller Survivor, The Mole.

49:19🔗 Drew The Big Brother? No.

49:20🔗 Caller Believe me, I did The Big Brothers. Okay.

49:22🔗 Drew Love you, old Big Brother. It's coming back.

49:25🔗 Caller That is unbelievable to me.

49:26🔗 Drew Yeah.

49:28🔗 Caller I did find it compelling. I thought it was so bad and the people were so boring. That was amazing. I had to tune in to go, what are they going to do now?

49:36🔗 Drew Women. I would talk to them and they go, there's so much going on in the house.

49:40🔗 Caller What? We were talking about narcissism. Big Brother, it amazed me how they sat around endlessly talking about themselves. Not one person ever said, it's driving me crazy that I don't have a newspaper. It is killing me that I don't know what's going on in the world.

49:54🔗 Drew They may have been saying that you just didn't get to see that.

49:56🔗 Caller Well, that was on the webcast.

49:59🔗 Drew You sat there watching.

50:00🔗 Caller Yeah. There's a lot of sitting around on the couch going like this. What you don't know about me because you don't know me that well yet is, I'm a really honest person, so I'm the type of person that has to be honest and real. And they would just all say that, reiterate that all the time. No one would say, who'd you vote for? Oh, no. You know, what's your favorite book? Let's break down our 10 favorite books and discuss them. Oh, no. It was, you know what I hate? I hate boys that are gross. Me too. Don't you hate that?

50:29🔗 Adam I will bet you, I will bet you that 70% of the people in that house thought the Unabomber was still at large when they went in the house.

50:37🔗 Caller The scary thing is, 90% of the people in that house thought that they were all going to be as famous as, you know, Richard Hatch or the Survivors. That was always a little sad when they would be sitting around going, I don't know if I should do Playboy or not, and you're going, Playboy's not going to call.

50:50🔗 Adam Right. Yeah. You may get a call from Screw or Swang.

50:54🔗 Caller Maybe Jugs.

50:55🔗 Adam Big Black Jugs.

50:57🔗 Caller Do they have a big Black Jugs now? The Jugs empire has spread out.

51:00🔗 Adam I was, subscription to Black Tail was gotten for me for Christmas, so there's at least Black Tail.

51:09🔗 Caller Okay.

51:09🔗 Adam Let me tell you something. Black Tail, Black Tail in there.

51:14🔗 Caller Delivers?

51:15🔗 Adam Not one of those ambiguous titles. It delivers. If you're into Black Tail, Black Tail is your magazine. All right. Oh, okay, Drew. I'm here. Let's talk to Jim, who's 28. Jim? Yes. What's up?

51:30🔗 Caller Kathy, when you're... I caught a piece of your show the other night, and I think you're very witty and you're really good.

51:34🔗 Caller Thank you.

51:35🔗 Caller But I disagree with the comment you made about the kind of gayish guy that was doing the fake throw up when the girl was trying to eat the worm.

51:42🔗 Caller Mean Gay Jeff from Survivor.

51:44🔗 Caller Yeah. Okay, Mean Gay. That makes a little sense. You said that you admired him, started to love him a little bit for that.

51:51🔗 Caller It was really, it was sometimes I have to love evil. It was because this Survivor, they're so mean and the first Survivor, they at least tried to be friends for the first like, you know, half a month or whatever. And this one, they're just vicious out the gate.

52:04🔗 Caller And this one's a big deal about winning the challenges. So if I was the army guy, I would have knew that that ended my day. I would have went over and beat Gay Jeff's ass.

52:13🔗 Drew One suing or something? What's all about?

52:15🔗 Caller Oh, well, that's from the old one. Well, first of all, the challenge he's talking about is they had to eat like these disgusting things, eat a bug type of thing. So while one team member was trying to eat the bug and look like she might heave, a guy on the other team looked at her and started dry heaving, which just cracked me.

52:29🔗 Drew You know, my son does that. My daughter throws up.

52:33🔗 Adam That's a strategy.

52:35🔗 Caller No, he wasn't really throwing it. He wasn't doing sympathy puke. He was trying to mess with her.

52:39🔗 Adam Yeah, it worked. And they won the challenge.

52:42🔗 Caller I'm just saying, I'm not saying I wouldn't think it was funny if it was if it was me that someone was doing that to. I'm just saying. I'm sorry it made me laugh.

52:49🔗 Adam He was doing what Bill Paxton was Paxton was doing to Anthony Michael Hall in Weird Science when he came home. You never saw this movie. When he came home loaded after drinking at the at the Blues Bar and started to talk about putting that big greasy cigarette in that ashtray and simulating the heave. That's a guy maneuver. It's not a gay guy maneuver, but it's a guy maneuver. That's a good move.

53:17🔗 Caller No, I didn't think it was inherently gay.

53:18🔗 Caller I just... It was just wrong.

53:20🔗 Caller Yeah, it was wrong.

53:21🔗 Caller But Adam, I got a How Dare You for you.

53:23🔗 Adam Yes.

53:23🔗 Caller How dare you watch that Temptation Island when a very good West Wing is on against it.

53:29🔗 Caller West Wing. Replay TV. I see them both.

53:32🔗 Caller I'm sorry?

53:32🔗 Caller Replay. Replay TV. Tivo. I see them both.

53:35🔗 Drew Tivo.

53:35🔗 Adam Okay, you. Now, what's Adam doing?

53:37🔗 Drew He has a Tivo.

53:38🔗 Adam Yeah, it's not hooked up. What? It's hooked up at the Party House, so you'll be glad to know. I don't.

53:45🔗 Caller It's very telling.

53:45🔗 Adam I don't watch West Wing. I don't watch any dramas, really.

53:49🔗 Caller Oh, I love the West Wing.

53:51🔗 Adam I know it's a good show.

53:52🔗 Caller I love the music. I like when the music swells and the flag goes by. I'm in a puddle of my own tears.

53:58🔗 Adam Like, is.

54:00🔗 Caller It's my version of your Party House.

54:01🔗 Drew Adam's in a puddle at the same time, but.

54:03🔗 Caller Yeah, Rob Lowe withstanding.

54:05🔗 Adam Yeah, I never watch it. Benji?

54:08🔗 Caller Oh, yeah.

54:09🔗 Adam You're 21. What's up?

54:11🔗 Caller Well, first, I just want to say hi to my friends.

54:14🔗 Drew Benji, what's your question?

54:14🔗 Adam All right, listen, you're not getting a Golden Globe.

54:17🔗 Caller You're on the radio.

54:17🔗 Caller Does he want to give a what up to Brooklyn?

54:20🔗 Drew What's up, Benji?

54:20🔗 Caller Oh, God.

54:23🔗 Drew I don't know if I believe what he's talking about.

54:25🔗 Caller Oh, boy. I've been riding my bike. I do BMX jumps and stuff.

54:31🔗 Caller Right.

54:33🔗 Caller So one time, I went off this really high jump. I was paid 10 bucks to do it or something.

54:37🔗 Adam All right. As long as you're well compensated.

54:40🔗 Caller So in my case, I land and then I really, really hurt my balls. So I go home and I look at them, they're all swollen and stuff.

54:51🔗 Drew Wouldn't that be the time to go to the emergency room?

54:53🔗 Caller Well, that's what you told Jeb.

54:56🔗 Adam Yeah. See, I don't believe him because...

54:59🔗 Drew Who's Jeb? I don't know, but it's some bogus nonsense.

55:02🔗 Adam Jeb you and your ass or something. Here's the reason why there's a bogus call. It struck me when he said, so I hit my nuts. So then I went home and I looked at them. Right.

55:14🔗 Caller And also, because someone gave me 10 bucks or something.

55:17🔗 Drew Yeah, something.

55:19🔗 Caller You know the figure.

55:20🔗 Adam Listen, all you jackoffs who call this show and do your bogus calls. I don't mind bogus calls. Just put some effort into it, please. Do you know what I mean? Don't be confused when we call on you.

55:31🔗 Caller How many more bruised balls do we have to hear about before they're real?

55:35🔗 Adam Rose?

55:36🔗 Yes.

55:36🔗 Adam You're 21. What's up?

55:38🔗 Caller Yeah. My father actually molested my half-sister since she was, I'd say about four and she was 22. Wow.

55:48🔗 Adam But it wasn't his daughter?

55:51🔗 Caller No. That was my half-sister.

55:53🔗 Adam Okay. Four to 22.

55:56🔗 Caller Yeah.

55:57🔗 Adam That's a run.

55:58🔗 Drew Now, this is your biological father.

56:01🔗 Caller My biological father, yes.

56:04🔗 Drew And mother?

56:06🔗 Caller And mother, yes.

56:07🔗 Adam And how did he treat you?

56:09🔗 Caller Very good. Never done anything to me.

56:10🔗 Drew Isn't that interesting?

56:12🔗 Caller Never touched me.

56:13🔗 Adam And when did you find out about this?

56:15🔗 Caller I was 18, I do believe. 17 was my senior year. And my sister told me. And she didn't tell my parents for a while. Actually, she moved away.

56:25🔗 Drew What do you mean she didn't tell your parents? Your mom.

56:27🔗 Caller My mom, yes. Sorry. And she moved away, actually, to the Netherlands. I think she was running from it all. And she told my mother over the computer. And it all came out. And I was the only one home to deal with it and everything. But my question basically is, is through therapy, can he change? Can he change as a person? Or should I fear when I have kids to take him over there?

56:49🔗 Caller Absolutely.

56:50🔗 Drew Yes. Absolutely. You're very afraid. But he can be contained and he can change. But he's a risky person.

56:56🔗 Caller That's rare, though, right?

56:58🔗 Drew They have to want to change a lot. They have to be highly supervised.

57:01🔗 Caller And all those therapies are very experimental, are they not? They're like, molester, like I've heard about these like, molester rehab places, basically, where they like, show you images and they shock you and stuff like that, right?

57:13🔗 Drew It depends on what this, I mean, maybe he's a sex addict, maybe there's other addictions involved in those things, can be treated. There's things that can be treated here.

57:20🔗 Caller Yeah, he was molested as a child.

57:22🔗 Drew Oh boy.

57:22🔗 Caller And now he's through everything.

57:24🔗 Drew That's sort of what puts him in that category.

57:26🔗 Caller What a betrayal.

57:27🔗 Adam She must have known something was going on for the 18 years.

57:32🔗 Caller Well, my sister actually, when she was, I would say, about 13, 14, she did come out. She ran away. And when she came back, she told my parents. And she says my mom told her to say that was all a lie. I don't know. I was there, but I was too young to even realize what was going on.

57:51🔗 Adam And she came back at 14 and this continued for another eight years?

57:55🔗 Caller Yeah.

57:55🔗 Drew Wow.

57:56🔗 Adam All right. So your mom is very suspect here.

57:59🔗 Drew She's disturbed.

58:00🔗 Adam Okay.

58:01🔗 Drew Yeah.

58:02🔗 Adam Yes. Your mom has a lot of copability here.

58:05🔗 Caller Yeah.

58:06🔗 Adam All right. Okay. If I can you change your name?

58:09🔗 Caller But on the other hand, I don't want her to do that thing. Sometimes it seems like molestation victims, they almost are so afraid to admit the dead to anything wrong that they almost deify the dad. Oh, I don't want this girl to shift to blame everything on mom. I'm just saying, let's not forget who the...

58:25🔗 Drew She's not the molestation victim, though.

58:26🔗 Caller No, but what I'm saying is she's... I wonder why she... I wouldn't even have a relationship with the dad, you know?

58:32🔗 Drew Well, she doesn't. The sister doesn't. She moved to the Netherlands.

58:35🔗 Caller But this sister knows. What's it like when she goes over for Christmas dinner and she has all this information about 18 years of molestation? I'm just saying, yes, the mother is absolutely culpable, but let's not go, oh, it's easier to blame mom because then I never really have to deal with dad.

58:50🔗 Drew There's got to be a lot of... You've got to blame them both.

58:54🔗 Adam No, dad deserves to be executed, mom deserves to be cobbled.

58:58🔗 Caller Yeah.

58:59🔗 Adam That's the reality of it. I'm sorry this had to happen to you, Rose, and I would not bring the kids over there, even if it's just for punishment. I think the hardest thing for Rose, you know what I mean, things have, actions have consequences.

59:10🔗 Drew I think the hardest thing for Rose, though, to really get into this, I mean, she lived a sort of fantasy, a lie her whole life, and it's so easy to first slip into that denial, well, things are just the way they've always been, they're okay. Dad's in therapy, you know, it's tough.

59:22🔗 Adam Well, only went on 18 years, so maybe.

59:25🔗 Caller I also am suspicious that the dad only molested the sister.

59:29🔗 I wonder if there was...

59:30🔗 Drew Often there's a picked child.

59:32🔗 Caller I see. So you don't think there was a cousin that maybe fell victim or a friend?

59:36🔗 Drew There always have been others along the way.

59:37🔗 Adam It's usually one. For Drew, it's Jordan, I think, your...

59:42🔗 Caller Adam, you know what? Maybe that flies at the party house, but not here. Okay, you leave that for the basketball court.

59:48🔗 Adam The potty mouth flies at the party house? All right. Nicole?

59:52🔗 Hi.

59:53🔗 Adam You're 15. What's going on?

59:55🔗 What's up? Dr. Drew, I saw you in the WD Morning News on Monday.

59:59🔗 Drew Oh, on Monday. Oh, in New York. Yeah. That was fun. That's a great little show.

1:00:03🔗 Uh-huh. Basically, I caught myself, and I stopped doing it like a couple of weeks ago because my friend found out. Then I pierced my eyebrow, and now I've been kind of pulling my hair out. In the back.

1:00:19🔗 Drew So it's all kind of a self-mutilation compulsion, right?

1:00:23🔗 Yeah.

1:00:24🔗 Drew And you really, you got to get to talk to somebody about this because you could inadvertently hurt yourself, right?

1:00:29🔗 Yeah. I hold my shrink, and I don't know, she's more crazy than I am.

1:00:33🔗 Drew Well, did she want to put you on some medication? That may be, by the way, but...

1:00:36🔗 No. She said, she's like, oh, why do you think you're doing this and all this? I don't know. And then, what do you call it? Before her, I was on bus car for anxiety attacks, and she said I was too young to be having them, and she took me off of them.

1:00:50🔗 Drew So she's able to...

1:00:52🔗 Adam Twice a day, almost.

1:00:53🔗 Drew And that caretaker is able to prescribe medication to you?

1:00:58🔗 What?

1:00:58🔗 Drew She's able to prescribe medication?

1:01:00🔗 Yeah, but she took me off of them.

1:01:02🔗 Drew Let me just clarify. She didn't just tell you to stop. She can either start or stop medication.

1:01:06🔗 Adam She's a psychiatrist.

1:01:07🔗 Drew She's a psychiatrist. She needs to get you on some medicine. Really, honestly. There's very good medicine for this kind of behavior.

1:01:14🔗 Adam What about finding a new one?

1:01:15🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:01:16🔗 That's what I'm trying to do now.

1:01:17🔗 Drew Yeah, that'd be good.

1:01:18🔗 I told my mother and she took me off. She got me away from her and now she didn't get me another shrink.

1:01:23🔗 Drew The hair pulling is called trichotillomania. And that's a compulsive behavior. It can sometimes be just isolated, but usually it's in going on with other stuff. In your case, the cutting is the more serious manifestation of these self-mutilatory compulsions.

1:01:34🔗 Adam I have that just with ass hair.

1:01:37🔗 Caller Now what is that drug? I've never heard of that drug. What does that drug do?

1:01:43🔗 Adam Trying to get the TV remote out of that.

1:01:45🔗 Caller Is that an MAO inhibitor?

1:01:46🔗 Drew No, no, no. It's a very mild medication. It's a 5-HT2A post-synaptic, you know.

1:01:54🔗 Caller And did that behavior stop when you were on that medicine?

1:01:57🔗 Yeah.

1:01:58🔗 Drew No, the panic stopped on the bus bar.

1:02:00🔗 Yeah, not the cutting.

1:02:01🔗 Caller Well, then what's going to help her with the mutilation?

1:02:04🔗 Drew It remains to be seen. It depends what other things are going on here. She may need some antipsychotic medication, to agitation.

1:02:10🔗 And my mom knows how to do it, and she doesn't even care.

1:02:13🔗 Drew They're good medicines. Actually Prozac is very good for trichotelomania. Very good.

1:02:17🔗 Adam Hey, Nicole.

1:02:18🔗 Caller But she also thinks she has a mom who doesn't care.

1:02:20🔗 I don't care.

1:02:21🔗 Adam Well, listen, were you abused?

1:02:24🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:02:24🔗 Adam And your mom does care because she wants you in therapy and she's trying to get involved with that, but I'm sure you're angry at her.

1:02:31🔗 My mom is a pothead who never cared about me. My father is an alcoholic cokehead, and for nine years my mother broke up with my father when I was three years old, and she was dating a crackhead.

1:02:43🔗 Drew Nicole, why don't you check out some Al-Anon? Nicole?

1:02:47🔗 Caller Yeah, that would be good.

1:02:47🔗 Drew Maybe Al-Anon would help you sort of get some support for having to deal with all these addicts in your life, and then also get a psychiatrist that you feel connected to, and see if you can get some pharmacotherapy, some medication going that'll help with these behaviors, because these are dangerous behaviors. And unpleasant.

1:03:02🔗 Adam She's mad at her folks, too.

1:03:04🔗 Drew And good.

1:03:05🔗 Adam Listen, that's very healthy. I've said it a million times. My dad missed a couple of Pop Warner football games. He's still on my ass list. I'm not letting him off that. That's fine. I mean, your mom molested you, your stepdad molested you, your mom was smoking crack. Fine. Be angry at him. Seems like mom is sobered up and trying to get her some help, though, and is trying to make amends.

1:03:26🔗 Drew She's pissed.

1:03:28🔗 Adam She's right.

1:03:28🔗 Caller She's got a few more years.

1:03:29🔗 Drew Maybe as a teacher, but sometimes-...

1:03:30🔗 Caller took her side, though, and said, you need help. I mean, we don't know the mom-

1:03:32🔗 Drew But sometimes forgiveness helps the resentment with each other.

1:03:37🔗 Adam Susan?

1:03:38🔗 Caller Yes, hi.

1:03:39🔗 Adam Year 23?

1:03:40🔗 Caller Yes, I am.

1:03:41🔗 Adam What's up?

1:03:42🔗 Caller Okay, I met a guy who was really nice. I'm thinking, wow, this is like all the criteria for a good guy. And we're in the bedroom one night, and he says, can I be your baby?

1:03:51🔗 Oh, great.

1:03:52🔗 Caller What do you mean? So then he wants to be literally my baby from breastfeeding to-

1:03:58🔗 Caller Ouch.

1:03:58🔗 Caller Pulling out a diaper out of his closet and wearing it, and then later, a few days later, going to the bathroom in the diaper, having me change him with the baby powder.

1:04:08🔗 Adam If Kathy had a quarter for every guy who pulled that.

1:04:11🔗 Caller Honey, I got a count of huggies.

1:04:13🔗 Caller Wait, there's more. Of course, you got to have a bottle, right? So.

1:04:17🔗 Adam Sure.

1:04:17🔗 Caller But I really like the dog.

1:04:18🔗 Drew Well, he was doing the breastfeeding.

1:04:19🔗 Adam Well, yeah, what's not to like?

1:04:21🔗 Caller But I don't like.

1:04:22🔗 Adam He's a keeper.

1:04:23🔗 Caller I'm afraid of what the outcome is going to be on the relationship if this ends up to be a serious long-term relationship.

1:04:28🔗 Adam Yeah, you'll get married to him, and then you'll be a single mother of one. Holds your baby. He's 28.

1:04:37🔗 Caller Early thirties.

1:04:38🔗 Adam Trying to get him on the toilet.

1:04:39🔗 Caller Early thirties. Nice.

1:04:40🔗 Adam Nice.

1:04:42🔗 Caller He said that he really likes this as a comfort thing. He's never introduced it to anybody before, except one time as a role-playing kind of thing. Not sexual.

1:04:50🔗 Adam Where do you find the pictures?

1:04:52🔗 Caller Yeah, I know.

1:04:53🔗 Adam Let's see.

1:04:53🔗 Drew These things don't exist in a vacuum.

1:04:55🔗 Adam That is exactly what I was thinking. And it's too bad they don't. But here's the deal. And everyone, this is exactly how you should think. It's like the person's a great guy. He's smart, he's funny, he's witty. He killed a guy, but he's great. But you see, that one thing, that's a deal breaker. That trumps all the other good qualities.

1:05:16🔗 Drew Because the other ones aren't real.

1:05:18🔗 Adam Right. Those are a façade so that he can unveil the real quality, which is baby Huey. A guy in his 30s really should be called baby Huey. He's goddamn lucky I don't work with this guy because it would be relentless once I found out about this.

1:05:35🔗 Drew Can you imagine?

1:05:36🔗 Adam Roundly abused.

1:05:37🔗 Drew Oh my God.

1:05:38🔗 Adam Paging Huey, Huey, cussing the phone. So you need to hold this against him. It doesn't mean you have to break up immediately. Oh, come on. Well, she can talk to him and go, listen, this weird.

1:05:51🔗 Caller Goo goo, gaga.

1:05:53🔗 Adam This weirds me out.

1:05:56🔗 Caller The other sex is going to be really hot.

1:05:59🔗 Adam I know.

1:05:59🔗 Drew With the lapu.

1:06:00🔗 Adam I know. She's never going to be able to talk about this.

1:06:03🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:06:04🔗 Adam All right.

1:06:04🔗 Caller Wow.

1:06:05🔗 Adam All right. Yeah.

1:06:06🔗 Caller All right.

1:06:07🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:06:08🔗 Caller I don't even know where to.

1:06:09🔗 Caller No.

1:06:09🔗 Adam So deal breaker.

1:06:11🔗 Drew Just be more realistic about who this guy is. Start looking around. Start fishing around.

1:06:15🔗 Adam Let me ask her something. Susan.

1:06:16🔗 Caller Okay.

1:06:17🔗 Adam What's up with you that you're taken caught up with this guy?

1:06:23🔗 Caller I just finally met someone who had his act together and then just surprised.

1:06:26🔗 Adam What's up with you?

1:06:27🔗 Drew Yeah. What does that mean finally? What's been happening in the past?

1:06:31🔗 Caller I meet a guy that I'm not 100% crazy with and I stay with him. Yeah. I'm kind of not liking him but then I'll end up for a couple of months to a year or whatever.

1:06:39🔗 Caller So she's got a high ceiling of tolerance.

1:06:42🔗 Drew No, no. Low esteem. Why do you accept these guys you're not even into?

1:06:48🔗 Caller I think I do need companionship. That's my deal.

1:06:51🔗 Drew Why do you feel so crappy about yourself that you would accept guys for a long period of time that you're not really interested in?

1:06:56🔗 Caller Well, I'm successful in my career and things like that and I'm proud of myself and I'm happy da-da-da-da. But I don't know. I can't identify why I would have low self-esteem.

1:07:05🔗 Adam We're not buying all that. Yeah, something's up.

1:07:08🔗 Drew Okay, the career and stuff is not compensating. It's not feeding you properly, not helping you feel better about yourself even though you think it should. It isn't.

1:07:17🔗 Caller Okay.

1:07:18🔗 Drew Okay. Well, if you're that out of touch with your feelings that I can't suggest things and you can tell me whether it is or it isn't, that's already saying something right there. But I suspect.

1:07:26🔗 Caller We all have issues that stem back to our childhood and I could say, well, yeah, my father was an addict at one point and we don't have a relationship now. So we can link.

1:07:35🔗 Drew Hey, guess what, Susan? Most people don't have that.

1:07:38🔗 Caller Right.

1:07:38🔗 Drew They don't have that. And when you do have that, it comes out in your relationships and that's what we're talking about here. You got to deal with that. You got to deal with those issues. Most people don't have that. And you would be in massive denial if you tell yourself, oh, that's just the way life is. It's not the way. That's a pathology.

1:07:55🔗 Adam Jamie? Yes? Yeah, I know. I hear people night after night say, listen, what family doesn't have its problems? And that's true.

1:08:02🔗 Drew That was a hermetic problem.

1:08:03🔗 Adam Problems, yeah. Hogging the remote on TV night, that's a problem. You know, taking dad's car out and denting up the fender. Those are problems. And even some more substantial problems, but not molestation, physical abuse, substance abuse. These are real problems that have real long-lasting effects. All right, we will take ourselves a little break. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew. This is the best of Loveline. And Drew, you like this next guest.

1:08:41🔗 Drew It takes a lot to get me excited about musical guest, but I like that Shaggy.

1:08:45🔗 Adam Why?

1:08:46🔗 Drew Like his music.

1:08:47🔗 Adam Really?

1:08:47🔗 Drew Yeah, he's a good guy, too.

1:08:48🔗 Adam Oh, yeah. Shaggy. Now, Shaggy, one of Drew's favorite guests.

1:08:53🔗 Drew No, no, not one of my favorite. My favorite musician, period.

1:08:56🔗 Adam Drew's favorite musician and one of his favorite guests?

1:09:00🔗 Drew Yes.

1:09:01🔗 Adam That's what I was saying there, Drew.

1:09:02🔗 Drew And so much so, last time we were in here, Maxie Priest was in here. You weren't in here, Adam. Chris Hardwick was filling in.

1:09:06🔗 Adam Right.

1:09:07🔗 Drew One of your many vacations, you know. Some people are here doing God's work, but Shaggy was here with Maxie Priest, and I was gushing over Shaggy. Maxie Priest stormed out of here and was peacing, agitated in the street.

1:09:20🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:09:21🔗 Adam Well, Drew, you're a abrasive fellow. People don't tell you to your face because they're intimidated, but you're a real pain in the ass. Where's Maggie? Maggie.

1:09:31🔗 Caller Maggie.

1:09:32🔗 Adam I'm going to have a long night. Where's Maxie Priest from?

1:09:35🔗 Best Of He's actually English, but he's Jamaican parentage.

1:09:38🔗 Adam I see. And Shaggy, we're just talking to Off the Air, who was born in Jamaica and splits his time between New York and Jamaica. And I love that Jamaica. I don't know how you could live there.

1:09:50🔗 Best Of Oh, it's a beautiful place, man. Sit on the beach, you know, have the sun, hit the trees.

1:09:54🔗 Adam That's my point.

1:09:55🔗 Best Of Covey sun-baked bikini babes, you know.

1:09:58🔗 Adam I'd have like skin cancer and colon cancer and lung cancer in about the first six months I was there and they just bury me on the sand.

1:10:06🔗 Best Of You probably wouldn't get any of the above.

1:10:08🔗 Adam Oh my God, that place is great. So this is, I mean, everyone knew who Shaggy was before this album, Hotshot, but it seems like this is, you're breaking out.

1:10:18🔗 Best Of Well, you know, there were some people, Drew knew who it was, but there were a few people that didn't and I think by now they got it now. I mean, it's in their face.

1:10:31🔗 Adam Yeah, and that's, is that what you're looking for?

1:10:34🔗 Best Of I just want, I want this music to be in people's households, you know what I mean?

1:10:39🔗 Adam But coming, and I understand that, but I'm going to ask a question and it sounds strange, but coming from Jamaica, and I've been to Jamaica and it's a beautiful laid back place and you just, it's a slow life and you unwind and you like it that way. Now you're jetting back and forth, East Coast, West Coast, call times, make up the whole thing, performance, rehearsals, how's that doing with you?

1:11:01🔗 Best Of But I've been doing that since, what, 1991, you know. It was a roller coaster ride then with Old Carolina because I've always been lucky enough to get huge songs.

1:11:10🔗 Adam Right.

1:11:10🔗 Best Of You know, Carolina was a huge hit, especially outside of America. And I, you know, one minute I'd be on top of the pops, the next minute I'd be back in New York doing, you know, some gig in a club or whatever.

1:11:22🔗 Adam And do you record in Jamaica or do you record in New York?

1:11:25🔗 Best Of I record both places, both in Jamaica. We have three recording studios, one in Jamaica, one in New York and two in New York.

1:11:30🔗 Adam What can't you get in Jamaica that you can get in New York and vice versa? I think they have weed in New York now, don't they? Didn't we send some over to New York last year?

1:11:43🔗 Best Of It all depends on the type of weed, though.

1:11:46🔗 Adam Well, that's true.

1:11:47🔗 Best Of But, no, I think it's just a vibe. I write better in Jamaica, but I like the mix-in. And there's a team of people that I work with. And some of the team is in New York and some of it is in Jamaica. And it depends on who is doing what at what time and where the idea starts from to where it ends up.

1:12:08🔗 Adam Right. And do you have people from New York come out to the Jamaican studio?

1:12:12🔗 Best Of Sometimes, right.

1:12:12🔗 Adam That's the gig. Listen, I play a pretty mean cowbell. So next time you hit the Jamaican studio, you may want to give me a ring.

1:12:19🔗 Best Of I just might. Yeah, I just might need that in a song these days. I'm like, can you hold a tune?

1:12:25🔗 Adam Well, I'm like Tracy from The Partridge Family.

1:12:28🔗 Caller I just stand in the back.

1:12:29🔗 Drew That wooden serrated fish.

1:12:30🔗 Adam That wooden fish. Yeah. If it worked. We'll hop on the phones and get the show rolling by speaking to Henry. He's 20. Henry?

1:12:40🔗 Caller Hi.

1:12:41🔗 Adam What's up?

1:12:42🔗 Caller I have like three problems with my testicles. Like when I go play basketball or play some other games like that, then after the game I feel like some pain in my testicles.

1:12:56🔗 Drew Do you wear support? Like a jockstrap?

1:12:59🔗 Caller No.

1:12:59🔗 Drew Why don't you start doing that?

1:13:01🔗 Caller When I was young, I had like surgery done to my right testicle.

1:13:06🔗 Drew Had what? Surgery. When I was young.

1:13:08🔗 Adam Is that what he said?

1:13:10🔗 Drew Good translation.

1:13:10🔗 Adam Yeah, that's pretty good. We had to keep you around, Shane.

1:13:12🔗 Drew For what problem?

1:13:15🔗 Caller I don't know. Those strings in there that hold the balls doesn't like to tangle.

1:13:21🔗 Best Of The string that holds your balls got tangled?

1:13:24🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:13:25🔗 Adam I heard the string that holds the balls did the tango. Didn't you hear that too? Hey, Henry, where are you from?

1:13:32🔗 Caller I'm Nigerian.

1:13:33🔗 Adam Oh, okay. All right. Hey, you smoke a lot of weed or is that what everyone sounds like from Nigerian?

1:13:39🔗 Caller No.

1:13:39🔗 Adam All right.

1:13:40🔗 Drew All right, listen. You got what's called a torsion and they untwisted it for you, I'm sure, and that can create some aching and whatnot afterwards, but especially if you're not wearing proper support when you're doing sports. So there's that. All right. So wear a jockstrap when you do sports.

1:13:53🔗 Adam Just wear the ball nugger underwear. Do you wear those?

1:13:56🔗 Caller No, I don't.

1:13:57🔗 Adam What do you wear? Just play nude during the summer?

1:14:01🔗 Caller I wear underwear like boxers.

1:14:03🔗 Best Of Boxers.

1:14:04🔗 Caller Oh, boxers.

1:14:04🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:14:05🔗 Caller Listen.

1:14:06🔗 Best Of Try briefs.

1:14:06🔗 Adam Yeah. Boxers are cool. I mean, they look cool.

1:14:11🔗 Best Of I know they look cool, man.

1:14:13🔗 Adam Because when you get... If you ever see yourself in a mirror wearing boxers, you look a hell of a lot better than those tidy whities. But the boxers, they offer no support. They ride up your ass. And here's my main problem with the boxers. The fly always seems to be open.

1:14:28🔗 Best Of That's right, for real.

1:14:29🔗 Drew Yeah, stuff falls out.

1:14:31🔗 Best Of You know, they got those new ones now with the elastic around the leg part.

1:14:34🔗 Drew Yeah, that's what I wear.

1:14:35🔗 Best Of Yeah, those are more comfortable.

1:14:37🔗 Drew Boxer briefs.

1:14:38🔗 Best Of Boxer briefs. That's those.

1:14:39🔗 Adam They used to call them midways. Those I'm fine with. Yeah, they're like, they're sort of like cycling shorts that are made out of cotton.

1:14:46🔗 Best Of Right.

1:14:46🔗 Adam Those are the best.

1:14:47🔗 Best Of Right.

1:14:48🔗 Adam But the boxers, that garage door opens and the Buick peeks out and it feels weird. And you know what's weird, too?

1:14:53🔗 Drew It hurts, it rubs.

1:14:54🔗 Adam Yeah, but even when it's not touching, you know when you stick your finger down your throat to make yourself vomit, you can feel your finger in your throat without it touching anything.

1:15:03🔗 Drew You gag before you.

1:15:03🔗 Adam You have a gag reflex, even if there's nothing in it. When my penis hangs out of a fly hole, even if it's not making contact with anything, it feels weird.

1:15:13🔗 Drew You want to have the turtle retraction.

1:15:14🔗 Adam Yes, I can feel it. My penis has a gag reflex.

1:15:18🔗 Best Of I'm surprised as hell that you could twist your balls. I didn't know that.

1:15:22🔗 Drew Well, it's not a torsion. They twist. The blood splega is cut off. How'd that happen?

1:15:25🔗 Best Of Too much sex?

1:15:26🔗 Drew No, no, no.

1:15:26🔗 Best Of Is it when you're banging it, the banging and the swinging? No. How does it happen though?

1:15:31🔗 Drew It just happens spontaneously to some people.

1:15:33🔗 Best Of And it's supposed to hurt like hell, right?

1:15:35🔗 Adam Oh yeah. Everything with your balls hurts like hell. Oh man. Your balls lands on a down cover.

1:15:40🔗 Best Of That's true man. Yeah, for real. Anything touches it.

1:15:43🔗 Adam If someone honks a horn near your balls, it hurts.

1:15:45🔗 Best Of Yeah, the vibration. Bass speakers trouble your balls.

1:15:49🔗 Adam Kat?

1:15:51🔗 Caller Yes?

1:15:51🔗 Adam You're 24?

1:15:53🔗 Caller Yes, Sam?

1:15:53🔗 Adam What's up?

1:15:54🔗 Caller Okay. This sounds really stupid, but I cannot come. And I'm like wondering like what's wrong with me. I mean, I can make myself come playing with myself. But like when I have actual intercourse, it just doesn't happen. I've never had an orgasm or anything.

1:16:11🔗 Drew That's very common.

1:16:12🔗 Best Of Get a real man.

1:16:16🔗 Caller Well, I've had different men, but not that sounded really wrong, but you know what I mean?

1:16:21🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:16:21🔗 Adam But what about, you know, what about oral sex? Does that work on you?

1:16:26🔗 Caller Nope.

1:16:27🔗 Drew Really?

1:16:27🔗 Adam Never has, huh?

1:16:29🔗 Caller No, it hasn't. And I don't know if like something's wrong.

1:16:31🔗 Drew Has anyone done it satisfactorily?

1:16:34🔗 Adam Well, apparently not. Yeah. Well, what do you want? A glowing review? No orgasm. Hey, Cat.

1:16:41🔗 Drew The point is the technique wasn't there.

1:16:42🔗 Adam Yeah. But I'm saying she hasn't had an orgasm that way. So I'm guessing no one's done a satisfactory job. Cat?

1:16:48🔗 Caller Yes.

1:16:49🔗 Adam How do you give yourself the orgasm?

1:16:53🔗 Drew Water technique?

1:16:54🔗 Caller I'm sorry?

1:16:55🔗 Adam Dr. Drew, just be quiet. I'm talking to you, Adam. How do you do it?

1:17:00🔗 Caller I rub my clit.

1:17:02🔗 Adam I see. All right.

1:17:03🔗 Caller Sometimes I bring my toy and that works, but...

1:17:06🔗 Adam But you can do it without your toy.

1:17:08🔗 Best Of So the toy does it, but the man can't do it?

1:17:12🔗 Caller Yes, and I don't understand why.

1:17:14🔗 Adam But you can do it without your toy, too?

1:17:17🔗 Caller Yes.

1:17:17🔗 Adam All right. So there's hope.

1:17:18🔗 Drew Want to bring the toy into the situation?

1:17:20🔗 Adam You can do that. Let the guy go down on you and put it up his ass. I agree with Drew. No. Let the guy do with his tongue what you're doing with your finger, and I bet you have an orgasm.

1:17:34🔗 Caller See, but that's the weird thing is that I've tried that, and I told him, you know, word that, and whatever, and for some reason, it just doesn't feel as good as it is.

1:17:45🔗 Drew How many times did that guy, we had to actually instruct him where your couturus was? How many times did you try it?

1:17:49🔗 Best Of He probably can't find it.

1:17:51🔗 Drew He couldn't.

1:17:51🔗 Caller He's a retard.

1:17:53🔗 Best Of Well, that's why I said it earlier. Get yourself a real man.

1:17:57🔗 Drew The guy does not know where the couturus is. I don't understand how he could possibly That is Jamaican, man.

1:18:01🔗 Best Of Yeah, yeah. Stomping, banging properly.

1:18:04🔗 Adam He'll fall asleep right on you. You disguise your vagina like a bong and he'll go at it, baby.

1:18:12🔗 Drew It's not you. Listen, cat, do not expect to have it during intercourse. That's an expectation you should get rid of for a while. It may happen someday.

1:18:19🔗 Adam All of you, listen to Drew. Don't even think about it. You're setting the bar way too high. But there's no excuse for a woman not having an orgasm with oral sex if and they're hooked up with the right guy or Jamaican guy, right?

1:18:33🔗 Drew That's right.

1:18:34🔗 Adam All right.

1:18:34🔗 Drew And the fact that she can do it with herself with a toy, she can recreate all that.

1:18:37🔗 Adam She can do it with her, no, she said she can do it with her finger.

1:18:40🔗 Drew Oh, I know.

1:18:41🔗 Adam Okay, Drew, you really make it compelling. The point, the toy does not make a point.

1:18:46🔗 Drew The point is she can recreate it either by bringing the toy in or with her finger. Or with her finger.

1:18:50🔗 Adam Yeah, because the vibrator does not make a good point. Do you understand what I'm saying?

1:18:55🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:18:55🔗 Adam Okay. Steve, Google, you're 16.

1:18:59🔗 Caller Adam, you were gone for two days too long.

1:19:02🔗 Adam Thank you.

1:19:02🔗 Caller What's up? I've been listening to you for like five years.

1:19:05🔗 Best Of Oh, thanks, man.

1:19:07🔗 Caller Yeah, I built up like this habit. I mean, I started doing it like once every month, like a year ago, but the last two weeks, maybe months, I've, you know, the bottle, maybe half a bottle depends on how much money I have. I'll drink Pepto-Bismol. Why? I just, I like the taste. Yeah.

1:19:26🔗 Adam Really? You can't just take some chalk and some sweet and low and make yourself a nice cocktail, save some money? Yeah.

1:19:34🔗 Caller I just, I don't know, I got turned on by the taste last time I had heartburn. It was just like, you know, whoa, this tastes good. And I've been drinking it like it was Coke.

1:19:43🔗 Drew Well, why don't you not do that? It's bismuth, a lot of it. And it turns your stool black and...

1:19:47🔗 Caller Yeah, it does that. It's kind of cool, but...

1:19:49🔗 Drew Cool.

1:19:49🔗 Adam It's cool. Well, wait a minute. Pepto-Bismol is a bismuth?

1:19:56🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:19:56🔗 Adam And what is that? Is it a kind of a...

1:20:00🔗 Drew A heavy metal?

1:20:01🔗 Adam Like an earth or heavy metal or something like that? And what's it do?

1:20:05🔗 Drew It coats the stomach, basically.

1:20:07🔗 Adam All right. And what will do it over the long term?

1:20:10🔗 Drew I don't know. I don't know of any... I've ever heard of bismuth toxicity, but it can't be good. It just can't be. I can't imagine that it would be. But I don't know of any specific syndromes associated with overdose.

1:20:21🔗 Best Of I think you need to stop. Can you stop, though? Do you need help for this to stop?

1:20:28🔗 Caller You know how you get in the habit of drinking like a soda every day with lunch? That's what this has turned into, you know?

1:20:34🔗 Best Of Yeah, but I could stop drinking soda whenever I feel like it. I'm just saying, you know?

1:20:37🔗 Caller I could probably stop. I just wanted to know...

1:20:39🔗 Best Of It don't sound good, though, bro.

1:20:41🔗 Drew I don't believe you're not getting something else out of this.

1:20:44🔗 Caller The only thing I get out of it besides the taste is, you know, that's kind of cool. You're looking at John and, you know, hey...

1:20:49🔗 Best Of So you're looking at John and his black eyes.

1:20:51🔗 I don't believe it.

1:20:52🔗 Drew What else? Anything else you get out of it?

1:20:55🔗 Caller It's just that taste.

1:20:57🔗 Caller You know, I like taste.

1:20:58🔗 Adam Hold on. That taste can be found other places because it's sort of a kind of a licorice kind of flavor to it.

1:21:04🔗 Drew What if you get out some Mylanta or Maylocks? Why don't you take that stuff?

1:21:07🔗 Adam Well, that's the point.

1:21:08🔗 Caller It's the same stuff, isn't it, Drew?

1:21:10🔗 Drew No, it's quite different.

1:21:11🔗 Caller It is?

1:21:11🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:21:12🔗 Caller So Maylocks would be like safer?

1:21:14🔗 Drew No, it's just different. And I'm just wondering why, my point in being is if it's about the taste, why haven't you found other things that taste the same?

1:21:21🔗 Best Of Yeah, just get a milkshake, man.

1:21:22🔗 Adam Well, this is working for him. But you know how it is.

1:21:25🔗 Best Of What do you mean, he's working for him? What is it working for you doing? What does it do for you, though? Besides the taste? I mean, you could get that taste anywhere.

1:21:35🔗 Caller That's the only place I really found that distinct taste that I like. But, you know, like I said, I like the taste, and it's, you know, it's easy to combine. I, you know.

1:21:42🔗 Drew I wonder if he has eating disorder or something else going on.

1:21:44🔗 Adam You got anything else? What else do you eat or don't you eat?

1:21:47🔗 Caller I eat like a horse, and I don't really not eat anything, you know?

1:21:52🔗 Adam Yeah. This guy is like a goat. He just gets in the stuff and starts devouring it. He chewed through a mop handle last week. Hey, Steve? Yeah. Stop it, all right?

1:22:07🔗 Best Of Yeah, just stop, man. It don't sound healthy, bro.

1:22:09🔗 Caller All right, I'll try and use some chalk, all right, Adam?

1:22:12🔗 Adam Yeah, use some chalk, take some chalk, some sweet and low, and some milk and mix it up.

1:22:18🔗 Drew You know, I wonder, here's another one. People, when they become anemic, when they become iron deficient, get very strange cravings. I'd always get rice cravings, and they'll chew ice, and they'll eat ashes out of an ash tray.

1:22:30🔗 Adam Right.

1:22:30🔗 Drew And I wonder if this is something to do with that. So Steve, you might want to consider that, maybe this is something to do with anemia.

1:22:35🔗 Adam You're saying if a guy, he may be craving this because he needs some component in it.

1:22:40🔗 Drew Right.

1:22:41🔗 Adam So maybe he should get himself checked out.

1:22:42🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:22:43🔗 Best Of Have you done that though? Did you go to the doctor? Hold on.

1:22:46🔗 Adam Steve?

1:22:46🔗 Caller Yeah?

1:22:47🔗 Drew Did you hear that?

1:22:47🔗 Best Of Did you go to the doctor, Steve?

1:22:50🔗 Caller No, the last time I was at the doctor was for my physical, for football.

1:22:53🔗 Drew Did they do a blood test on you?

1:22:55🔗 Caller I think they ran a blood test like a couple years ago, but this year, it can't.

1:22:59🔗 Drew Can a blood, that would be sort of a path to go down, but maybe while you're pregnant?

1:23:03🔗 Caller I'm fine. The only thing I have wrong with me permanently is seasonal allergies.

1:23:08🔗 Drew You haven't been bleeding from anywhere?

1:23:11🔗 Caller Every few months, I wake up and I have a nose bleed, but that's it.

1:23:15🔗 Drew I wonder if maybe you got a little iron deficient from that. Try to take some iron supplements for a while, through a couple weeks, see if some of this craving for that weird stuff doesn't go away.

1:23:22🔗 Caller I've got a well-balanced diet, though.

1:23:25🔗 Drew If you're really actually losing blood, you've got to supplement with iron.

1:23:28🔗 Caller It only happens like, you know, maybe you forget about it.

1:23:31🔗 Adam All right, all right. All right, listen, go drink three gallons of it and kill yourself. Who cares? Jesus Christ, people call the show. They got a question, and then they start arguing. Yeah, take an iron supplement. Well, I don't know. All right, then don't take it, you idiot. Why do I care? Just don't argue with the doctor when he tells you to take a goddamn vitamin. Please, can we? These guys are arguing over vitamins. Just take the vitamin. You blow eight bucks a day on Pepto-Bismol. Take the goddamn vitamin.

1:24:01🔗 Drew Not that everyone should be taking an iron because you can easily overload an iron, but just in that case, if he's not going to get checked out, it's something to try.

1:24:08🔗 Adam Chad?

1:24:08🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:24:09🔗 Adam You're 21. What's up?

1:24:11🔗 Caller Well, I'm on Depakote for migraines.

1:24:13🔗 Caller I think I'm taking 250 milligrams a day, twice a day. And I've lost all sex drive and I'm having some other weird side effects too.

1:24:20🔗 Drew What else?

1:24:21🔗 Caller Like hallucinations.

1:24:23🔗 Drew Hallucinations?

1:24:24🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:24:25🔗 Drew Of what?

1:24:26🔗 Caller Just like shadows and that kind of stuff.

1:24:28🔗 Adam What you got going on there? Copy your machine? Oh, I'm at work.

1:24:32🔗 Caller I'm sorry.

1:24:33🔗 Adam All right. What is that?

1:24:35🔗 Caller That is actually a computer, believe it or not. Wow.

1:24:38🔗 Drew It's like one of those old computers from My Dream of Janie, you know, with the tapes, the going in different directions. Real, real tapes.

1:24:45🔗 Caller That's actually UPS.

1:24:46🔗 Caller It's like a battery backup kind of thing.

1:24:48🔗 Caller But anyways.

1:24:48🔗 Adam All right, buddy.

1:24:49🔗 Drew Remember those old NASA computers?

1:24:52🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:24:54🔗 Adam What do you, what should he do, Drew?

1:24:57🔗 Drew Do you want any other medicine?

1:24:59🔗 Caller No, I'm not.

1:25:00🔗 Drew Have you talked to your doctor about stopping the depakote?

1:25:02🔗 Caller Yes, I have. He put me on a tenol.

1:25:04🔗 Drew A tenolol?

1:25:06🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:25:06🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:25:06🔗 Caller And it didn't help at all.

1:25:09🔗 Drew And didn't stop the depakote or did it?

1:25:10🔗 Caller The migraines were there, but it did stop the symptoms.

1:25:13🔗 Drew Did he stop the depakote or not? He did. Are you having liver problems with the depakote?

1:25:17🔗 Caller No.

1:25:18🔗 Drew Are they checking for that?

1:25:19🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:25:20🔗 Caller All right.

1:25:21🔗 Adam So what is this depakote for? Headaches?

1:25:23🔗 Drew Yeah. It's not a great headache medicine. It's a medicine for seizures and bipolar manic depressive.

1:25:29🔗 Adam Why are they giving them that?

1:25:29🔗 Drew Maybe it's a headache medicine too. It's sort of a slop shot for headaches. Maybe he's having a lot of bad side effects. I wouldn't go keep going.

1:25:36🔗 Adam So go to the doctor and get a new prescription, right?

1:25:38🔗 Drew Find something else. Yeah.

1:25:39🔗 Adam All right. We're going to take ourselves a little break. Shaggy's our guest tonight. When we come back, we'll speak to Mary. Mary's 15, got oral sex for the first time, hated it. And all right, just erasing stuff off the board as I read it. Thanks, baby. Good times. Good work. I will take a break. We'll be back.

1:26:00🔗 Caller Loveline, Loveline, we'll be right back.

1:26:03🔗 Adam Hey, everybody. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Shaggy's our guest tonight. Hotshot is the name of the CD. Shaggy splits his time between Jamaica and New York. And even though you can tell you're Jamaican, you don't have a very thick accent.

1:26:22🔗 Best Of I'm not speaking to a Jamaican, though.

1:26:24🔗 Adam Oh, you can slide right into it.

1:26:25🔗 Best Of Yeah. I'm rude, boy. Everything all right. Nice. Uh-huh.

1:26:30🔗 Adam Could I have some more pot?

1:26:31🔗 Drew Yeah. There were some words in O'Carolina that I didn't understand.

1:26:35🔗 Best Of Yeah. Which one?

1:26:35🔗 Drew Like whiny.

1:26:36🔗 Best Of Oh. The whiny body is like basically whiny is like...

1:26:40🔗 Drew Dance?

1:26:41🔗 Best Of Yeah, it's dance. It's just basically the motion of the waistline.

1:26:44🔗 Adam Whined your body or whiny body?

1:26:46🔗 Best Of Well, it's like whiny body. All right. It's just how I say it.

1:26:50🔗 Drew You can say it, huh?

1:26:51🔗 Adam Whiny your body. I sound like the alien from the Bugs Bunny cartoon.

1:26:58🔗 Caller Whiny your body.

1:27:01🔗 Drew Tony, I'm 246, doesn't it?

1:27:05🔗 Adam I just mean when you hear Shaggy sing some of his songs, especially some of his hits, I was driving, I never met him. I was driving in and I go, and I hope I understand him okay.

1:27:16🔗 Best Of Right.

1:27:16🔗 Drew That's pretty funny.

1:27:17🔗 Adam But you really can drop it if you have to.

1:27:20🔗 Best Of To me, Shaggy is a character. I just basically jump into the character. It's good for the chicks, you know, they get to sleep with two guys at the same time.

1:27:27🔗 Drew Were you in the military before music? Military before me?

1:27:30🔗 Best Of Yeah, I was in the Marines for four years. Five months in the Gulf War.

1:27:35🔗 Adam Oh really? I didn't know that.

1:27:36🔗 Best Of I'm a canineer. I'm a Gulf War vet.

1:27:39🔗 Adam Wow. What were you doing in the Gulf War?

1:27:40🔗 Best Of I was a canineer, which is an artilleryman. Fired one of five five harzans. I just fired things. I don't know where to land. I just take grid squares out and what not.

1:27:48🔗 Adam How?

1:27:49🔗 Best Of I just didn't have any of that Gulf War syndrome. I wasn't an idiot.

1:27:52🔗 Drew What kind of range did it do what?

1:27:55🔗 Best Of Well, you know, they're having this whole Gulf War.

1:27:57🔗 Drew The vaccines and things.

1:27:58🔗 Best Of The vaccines. I didn't administrate it. There's a lot of... I didn't administrate it. There's a lot of people who... You're supposed to actually break it out in case of a nerve attack. Right. Some of these morons broke it out when there wasn't even a nerve attack. It's like bacteria fight bacteria in a way. That's how it is supposed to work. And these clowns, you know, you hear, gas! There is no gas falls alarm and they'd be popping that thing all over the place.

1:28:22🔗 Adam Was it an injection?

1:28:24🔗 Best Of It's a vaccine that was given in case of a nerve attack. You should use it.

1:28:27🔗 Adam But you keep it with you, right?

1:28:28🔗 Best Of Yes, with you on your belt all the time.

1:28:29🔗 Adam And would you shoot it into your...

1:28:32🔗 Best Of You're supposed to shoot it into your thighs. I think it's two of them, one on each side of the thighs.

1:28:36🔗 Adam Wow.

1:28:37🔗 Best Of Just in case of a nerve attack.

1:28:38🔗 Adam And how far would those 155 millimeter shells, about a six inch shell, by the way, right?

1:28:45🔗 Best Of Right.

1:28:46🔗 Adam How about that across?

1:28:46🔗 Best Of Well, nah, they're huge.

1:28:48🔗 Adam Yeah, I mean, they're huge in length, but in width. That's the bore...

1:28:51🔗 Best Of Right, right, right, right, right.

1:28:52🔗 Adam The bore of the howitzers, like six inches.

1:28:55🔗 Best Of Six inches, right.

1:28:55🔗 Adam And how far would that thing go?

1:28:57🔗 Best Of It depends on the charge.

1:28:59🔗 Adam Oh, I see.

1:29:00🔗 Best Of They put in bigger charges. Right, they put bigger charges. It depends on whatever charge. It depends on the, you know, the quadrant of deflection, the whole nine yards, and how...

1:29:07🔗 Adam Well, you know, it's a very useful skill to be able to...

1:29:11🔗 Drew When you're a musician, all musicians need this.

1:29:15🔗 Best Of It's funny enough for me to be in the military doing artillery work, which is very loud work, you know.

1:29:19🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:29:20🔗 Best Of I'm deaf as it is right now.

1:29:22🔗 Adam I could imagine.

1:29:22🔗 Best Of Yeah.

1:29:23🔗 Adam I mean, what were you doing? Were you loading? Were you doing everything?

1:29:26🔗 Best Of Well, I was supposed to... I was actually a gunner, which, you know, I'm supposed to be the guy, you know, loading and firing this thing, but I skated.

1:29:34🔗 Adam What did you do?

1:29:35🔗 Best Of Well, you know, my mic got to wipe my mouth. I, you know, go on the mic and talk crap. Did other recorders would sit there and record the amount of rounds you do? That was my job all the time.

1:29:42🔗 Adam Oh, I see.

1:29:43🔗 Best Of You don't want to sit there and lift heavy rounds and whatnot.

1:29:45🔗 Adam No, no.

1:29:46🔗 Best Of I skated totally. Then I was driving a jeep for one time, and then I used to go out, you know, I got a lot of crap details, so they'll put me all the way out. I had to drive out like five in the morning, go get breakfast, come back with like rice and ripe bananas and whatnot. But it's cool, though, because then you'd go to the base camp, and that's where they have the goodies. I had, you know, I had like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and all that.

1:30:08🔗 Adam So you're out of speed a little bit.

1:30:09🔗 Best Of I had them on my seat. Oh, absolutely.

1:30:11🔗 Adam Now, were you guys being shelled or attacked yourselves?

1:30:13🔗 Best Of One time there was some shell coming in from the Iraqis, but they were so off. It was like, you know, they're like, Incoming, and you're standing there looking at this thing blowing up miles away. You're like, What are you thinking?

1:30:25🔗 Drew Did you see anything bad over there?

1:30:27🔗 Best Of Yeah, when it blew up. Well, you got to understand, we were there for five months, but the war only lasted for three days. And within that three days, we were pretty heavy fighting. We were going across, crossing over the Kuwait, now going over to Saudi Arabia, to Iraq. We hit a couple of pauses that were bombed by US shells and what not, and there was a couple of blown up heads and bodies. You had a couple of, and that's how you knew you had some sick people around. You'd kick a head and a foot together and put them in pose. Some sick dudes, man.

1:30:59🔗 Adam Good times. Thank God they're back in society now.

1:31:03🔗 Best Of He has some sick dudes, man.

1:31:04🔗 Adam Yep. I work construction with those guys.

1:31:08🔗 Best Of Yeah.

1:31:08🔗 Adam All right. Let's hop back on the phones and speak to Mary, who's 15. Mary?

1:31:14🔗 Caller Hi.

1:31:14🔗 Adam Hey, you got oral sex for the first time?

1:31:17🔗 Caller Yeah, and it was like, I like, the whole time I was just like, this is gross, and I'm really not enjoying it. And you were always like, oh my god, the only girl, the way like a girl will get an orgasm.

1:31:26🔗 Drew Do you have orgasms during intercourse?

1:31:29🔗 Caller No, I've never had intercourse.

1:31:30🔗 Caller It's like my first time ever.

1:31:32🔗 Best Of Oh, you've never had intercourse?

1:31:34🔗 Drew Do you ever had orgasm?

1:31:35🔗 Adam No. How old was the guy who gave you the oral sex?

1:31:40🔗 Caller 16.

1:31:40🔗 Adam All right. Usually guys haven't honed their technique too much by that.

1:31:44🔗 Drew There's a very small percentage of women that do not like this.

1:31:48🔗 Adam Yeah, there's a small percentage of women that don't like it, but you can't put her on that list at 15.

1:31:52🔗 Drew No.

1:31:53🔗 Adam I was 16. I performed oral sex like I was in a pie eating contest. Just buried my face, and I didn't even know what direction to go. You know, so you can't blame her or the guy at this point. Is he your boyfriend?

1:32:08🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:32:08🔗 Adam All right. Well, you just, it's always awkward at the beginning. Just take it slow. You'll work it out.

1:32:15🔗 Caller Isn't it like something like totally wrong with me? No.

1:32:18🔗 Drew No, not at all. If you start up again when you're 18, you'll have a higher probability of finding success.

1:32:23🔗 Caller Because I like already told him, I was like, that was kind of weird. And he's like, oh, okay, I'm sorry.

1:32:27🔗 Caller I don't want to like make you go too fast.

1:32:30🔗 Adam That's it.

1:32:30🔗 Drew He's done.

1:32:31🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:32:31🔗 Caller He's like done it a lot before.

1:32:33🔗 Drew Nothing more.

1:32:34🔗 Adam He'll be doing gay porn within a week.

1:32:37🔗 Caller And it was like with my friends and they were all like, oh my gosh, it's amazing.

1:32:40🔗 Caller So I am.

1:32:42🔗 Adam Okay. But I can't even know 15. Listen, Mary, she's 15. Here's the deal. First off, everybody lies about it because they're scared of feeling how you feel right now at 15. Right. Wasn't it amazing? Oh yeah, it was. Oh yeah. Oh no, it's great.

1:32:56🔗 Drew If you were going to talk to your friends about it, what would you tell them? That it was great or that it was weird?

1:33:00🔗 Caller I didn't tell them.

1:33:01🔗 Drew Right. The point is you think there's something wrong with you.

1:33:03🔗 Caller Right.

1:33:04🔗 Drew There isn't.

1:33:04🔗 Adam There isn't and this guy probably hasn't done it as much as he said he's done it. He's just trying to save a little face, pardon the pun, and you guys will work it out over the course of the relationship, all right?

1:33:15🔗 Caller Okay.

1:33:16🔗 Adam In the meantime, don't get pregnant.

1:33:18🔗 Caller Oh, I won't. Oh God.

1:33:19🔗 Drew All right.

1:33:20🔗 Caller Okay.

1:33:20🔗 Adam And good luck with that intercourse orgasm.

1:33:25🔗 Drew I think sometimes women that don't like oral sex have no problem with intercourse.

1:33:29🔗 Adam Really?

1:33:30🔗 Best Of Yeah, what's wrong with that, man? Mm-hmm. What's wrong with the straight intercourse? And maybe they could come in. It's all about the foreplay, Adam.

1:33:38🔗 Adam I know. That's what I'm saying.

1:33:40🔗 Best Of You're a good foreplayer. There's all the... Drew, right? There's all the parts you could touch and go and get them all.

1:33:47🔗 Caller Right.

1:33:48🔗 Adam Shaggy's foreplay is... Here, stare at my Grammy for a few minutes.

1:33:51🔗 Best Of All right.

1:33:51🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:33:52🔗 Adam Hi. Here I come, baby.

1:33:53🔗 Caller I got a gig tonight.

1:33:54🔗 Adam Let's make this quick. Can you see the Grammy again? Are you getting dry? Here, touch the Grammy. Thank you. James?

1:34:01🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:34:01🔗 Adam You're 30. What's up?

1:34:03🔗 Caller Well, I had a call in, first of all, I wanted to say Adam. Not sure if you're a genius per se, but very, very clever man, and I enjoy the man show a lot.

1:34:12🔗 Adam Well, thank you.

1:34:13🔗 Caller Dr. Drew's doing a great job with the website and everything.

1:34:17🔗 Caller Glad to have somebody taking care of the kids.

1:34:19🔗 Caller But mostly I had a question for Shaggy.

1:34:21🔗 Caller Oh, hell.

1:34:22🔗 Caller Big fan.

1:34:23🔗 Caller Thanks, man.

1:34:23🔗 Caller Really know your music. And I was just wondering who were your influences when you started doing your music?

1:34:28🔗 Caller You a big Marley fan?

1:34:29🔗 Caller That sort of thing?

1:34:30🔗 Best Of I think Bob Marley is an influence on not just people in the record fraternity, but just a lot of musician, period. But I listen to a lot of Toots and the Maytels.

1:34:40🔗 Caller Oh, really?

1:34:41🔗 Best Of All right. I'm a big Scott fan also. Oh, wow. Jimmy Cliff is... I'm a big fan of Jimmy Cliff. A lot of dance hall artists. Super Cat is one of my mentors, so to speak. Maxie Priest is, on a personal level, I'm a big fan of Maxie because he taught me a lot of things as far as performing and...

1:34:59🔗 Adam And he loves Drew, Joe.

1:35:00🔗 Best Of And he loves Drew. Yeah, but there's so many different influences. I draw influences even from people who are not very successful or very large. I might go to a talent show and see somebody do something and find that very intriguing, so to speak. And I grab from that also. So it could be any number of things.

1:35:21🔗 Caller I see.

1:35:22🔗 Adam Okay.

1:35:23🔗 Caller Well, thanks a lot.

1:35:24🔗 Best Of Thanks, man.

1:35:24🔗 Caller Yeah, you keep up the good work, everybody.

1:35:26🔗 Adam Thanks there, James.

1:35:27🔗 Caller Yeah, bye.

1:35:28🔗 Adam Bye-bye. Wow. Everybody? Well, that that wraps up another fabulous episode of The Best of Loveline. We will return on Sunday night. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying Mahala.

1:35:50🔗 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Engel. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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