1:08🔗VoiceoverAdam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.
1:14🔗VoiceoverYep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew is out of New York tonight. Drew, you there? Yep. Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician, addiction medicine specialist, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, and we're happy to have again in the studio, the cult. Billy Duffy and Ian Asbury are both here from the band. Ian was not here last time, I believe, Billy and Matt. I've been before. When were you here last?
1:42🔗The CultA while ago, maybe in the Holy Barbarians, when I was on my cult hiatus.
1:46🔗AdamWow. What? I mean, was it? How many years are we talking about?
1:50🔗The CultQuite a few, maybe before you, I think maybe before you were doing it.
1:52🔗AdamYeah, I don't remember that, but I do remember Billy. And the new CD is out. It's called Beyond Good and Evil. It was out June 6th. Cult's lining up a large tour date of the States. And we will give some of those tour dates out as the night wears on. We'll also hear something off of the new CD. And how long has it been, 7 years? Is that what I was reading?
2:21🔗AdamAnd when you guys made your last album 7 years ago, did you part on good terms? Or I mean were you bored of each other? Were you pissed at each other?
2:31🔗The CultFamily, like brothers, you know. It was just the case. I was going, I just, the head went totally. It imploded, yeah. Something snapped and I just couldn't do it anymore. So I ran away.
2:45🔗The CultStarted a new band. Out the frying pan into the fire. And the other band was just totally insane.
2:53🔗AdamAnd were you talking to the other members of the cult the whole time?
2:58🔗The CultCouldn't get Charlie on the phone. He was in jail. Squeaky was in jail. We sat down two weeks after I left the band. Me and Billy sat down. And we sort of like said, let's dissolve it.
3:15🔗The CultLet's put it to bed for a little while.
3:17🔗AdamAnd what made you pick up the phone and get back together?
3:21🔗The CultI think it's, you know, again, it's like blood, family, unfinished business. It didn't end when the band originally dissolved. It wasn't a case of ending. It was just a case of necessity to take a break for a while.
3:35🔗AdamRight. So you felt like you'd get back together at some point?
3:38🔗The CultYeah. Just after the, you know, rejuvenated oneself.
3:42🔗AdamWell, that point is going to start out here on June 14th. When's that? A couple of days?
3:51🔗AdamSanta Barbara, Sacramento. I'll give all the dates out where you can find the cult. Like I said, we'll hear something off Beyond Good and Evil, the new CD.
4:39🔗CallerI have a boyfriend and there's this girl that likes me too. But the catch is I'm not positive the girl likes me. My boyfriend lives like two hours away.
6:14🔗DrewYou're exclusive to him, but he does whatever he wants. Yeah. Well, listen, why don't you break that relationship up? Just like decent behavior in any relationship. Break one up and then if you want to start another one, by all means do, but just get rid of it. Clarify the one before you go start hurting people by mudding the situation.
6:29🔗AdamYeah. Two hours is a long haul when you're 16. Keep a relationship going. All right. Thanks, Tom. Hey, Tom. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, you're confused. You're making me confused. The guy lives two hours away. If you're in love with him, stay with him. If you're not, break it up with him.
6:49🔗DrewNot just somebody. Maybe. Maybe. By the way, a reason to get in a relationship with someone is not, gee, I think maybe they like me. Therefore, I better be in a relationship. I better go for it. How do you feel about her?
7:17🔗CallerI've met her a couple of times, but nothing really. We've tried to stay away from getting too close just in case something like this would happen.
7:27🔗AdamHold on, you and the girl or you and the guy?
9:32🔗CallerThere's a hierarchy right there in the construction world.
9:34🔗AdamOh yeah. And he's way down. He's what we would call a goomper in the carpentry world. He's humping lumber and carrying drywall and all that stuff. All right. And how is he other than being okay with tinkling in his mouth? Is he a good guy?
9:49🔗CallerYeah. He's a really good guy. He helps take care of my baby and everything.
11:20🔗DrewYeah, but not that I know. The way stress urinary incontinence is, so if she's bearing down real hard, they might dribble out a little bit, but the actual femoral orgasmic incontinence can happen to young, healthy women.
11:31🔗AdamWell, was she having an orgasm? Yeah, good work.
11:37🔗DrewAre you sure it was P and not the female ejaculation?
11:57🔗DrewYou can just pick it out and test it, drop the stick in there.
12:00🔗AdamWell, listen, the point is, if you can coax something to come out of a woman, you're doing a pretty good job. And that's what Billy has done. Chris?
12:14🔗CallerI've been going out with a girl for about a month. It's going really well. I'm not a virgin, and she is. And I don't want to have sex with her too early because I don't want to have it, you know, damage the emotional relationship. So I want to know what you guys thought is a good kind of guideline for how far along we should be in the emotional relationship before we proceed towards that.
12:30🔗DrewIt's not going to damage the emotional relationship, but it's going to bond her to you like epoxy. I mean, you're going to be bound.
12:58🔗DrewBecause listen, this is a woman who's saving her virginity for marriage. She believes on some level if she gives this up to him, that's where it's going, and at six months, he'll know whether there's really a probability of that or not.
13:51🔗AdamIt's kind of funny that you really have to make a choice to not have sex if you're a woman and if a guy you have to make the choice to have sex, but... Chris? Yeah? All right. Why don't you pick her brain a little?
14:21🔗AdamIf I could do a couple of years in prison and probably just receive oral sex and be okay. Just FYI, just something you guys...
14:30🔗CallerIn case you break any major loss in federal...
14:33🔗AdamIn case I do any time, just to the other felons. No. I'll blow a guy right at the dinner table. Oh, please. I was totally out of context. Mike? Megan. Oh, Megan. I'm sorry. Megan.
15:27🔗CallerBut he had had cancer just a while before and he had had to have surgery. And his lungs had gotten really weak from the surgery and everything. And he'd gone swimming and the water shocked his lungs and he couldn't breathe. And, you know, went under and nobody could get him back up. But ever since, you know, I've been like really afraid of water. Not like, you know.
15:54🔗DrewMegan, that's a very special circumstance. You know, he probably actually had a heart problem from the chemotherapy, too, I bet you.
16:03🔗AdamYeah, there's 10,000 lakes there? You're bound to drown eventually. I mean, doesn't everyone in Minnesota, you figure you're going to get it eventually via the lake. Is it really 10,000 lakes there?
16:23🔗DrewYeah, Megan, but you know how to be safe in water. And this is somebody who had... There's two things that come commonly, but can happen from chemotherapy. One is something called pulmonary fibrosis. And another thing is congestive heart failure. And both those things exposed to sort of a shock like cold water could really become acutely decompensated. He gets sick real fast. So it really wasn't that he drowned. It was that he had a complication of his chemotherapy. And he happened to be in water when it happened. And that sort of made it, you know, obviously a terminal event.
16:52🔗DrewYeah, just be safe. It's understandable. You freak out about it. You got to get in there again and start swimming a little bit. Try swimming pool first. Something a little easier, right?
17:00🔗AdamAll right. Well, just turn the hose on yourself just to sort of acclimate yourself and then then go for the swimming pool.
18:23🔗DrewYou know, I don't know that much about the physiology of it, but if I understand right, the muscle just doesn't function. The muscles for breathing, all those muscles just cease to function real quickly.
18:54🔗And I told him to stop doing it. And, well, see, we were in the bedroom, and he told me to go into the bathroom, walk across the room, and like four or five of his other brothers were in the bedroom. And so we went into the bathroom, and he told me to get down on all fours, and I did, and he put his penis in me, and he kept going like that, and I didn't scream or anything. And then I kept saying, though, I kept saying, don't do that.
20:10🔗CallerOkay. I was going to a therapist in 1992 and I told her that I had thoughts about having sex with young children. Just thought I would never do it because I don't want to go to prison.
20:24🔗DrewIf you listen to this show, you know that's what happens when people are sexually abused, right? Those are the people that then abuse other children and children oftentimes abuse other children before they even reach adulthood.
20:33🔗AdamWell, everyone just abuses everyone now. I think it's a pandemic. But what's up?
20:38🔗CallerWell, the therapist said, if you don't quit having those thoughts, I'm going to recommend that you have shock treatment.
20:48🔗The CultWas the therapist's name is Frankenstein?
20:50🔗DrewWell, shock therapy won't do anything for those thoughts.
20:52🔗CallerI don't know. I was in Las Vegas at the time when she told me this. And I also came across compulsive gambling. I'm 33 now. I started gambling when I was 21 and it just took off. And I would blow my money and blow checks and quit jobs and everything.
21:33🔗Drew60 percent of people who have been abused, abuse.
21:35🔗AdamAnd listen, all of you contain your impulses no matter what it is. Whatever you have an idea to do, don't do it. Take a nap instead. That's what I do.
21:57🔗AdamNo, man. I'm sorry. How dare you. It's a very snooty band, Drew, this cult. Drew is over there in New York. We're over here in LA. Billy and Ian are both here from the cult. We're going to take ourselves a little break. We'll come back. We'll hear something off the new CD, Beyond Good and Evil and give you some tour dates and take some more calls and all that after this.
22:21🔗Call 1-800-LOVE-191. Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back.
22:59🔗AdamYep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Tricky's gonna be in here tomorrow night. The Cult is here tonight. Billy and Ian are both here. Beyond Good and Evil is the name of the CD. I think we just heard something off of that. I think we're gonna hear something else off of that after we take this next call. Josh?
23:23🔗CallerWell, I've been seeing this girl for a couple days now, and, I don't know, like, we will come back to my house for a little while and nobody's here. And, like, I'll try and get her off by, like, you know, going down on her for a little while.
23:47🔗AdamGod bless you. That's right. You still try.
23:51🔗CallerYeah. We'll see. The thing is, I've never really had problems with that before, you know? I've had, like, probably five or six different partners.
24:00🔗DrewYeah. Some women, just like with some men, don't really get off with that action.
24:06🔗AdamWell, not... You know, when they're 18, they don't do it as much as they do at 38.
24:11🔗DrewYeah, but some women, the ones that are sort of multi-orgasmic or that have orgasms during intercourse are the ones that aren't tending to have the orgasm with the oral sex as much.
24:21🔗CallerWell, another thing that she told me was that she masturbates like two or three times a day, so...
24:30🔗AdamYeah, but listen, if she masturbates two or three times a day, she should enjoy a good oral sex and...
24:38🔗CallerWell, yeah, that's what I was thinking.
24:39🔗AdamYeah? Well, what about sex? You don't have sex with her?
24:43🔗CallerOh, I do. It usually builds up to that. You know, when that's not working, I'll be like, well, you know, well, I mean, you know, it usually works up to that, so.
25:05🔗AdamAnd how does she climax after you climax?
25:09🔗CallerWell, I usually switch back over to something else. We try different things, but that's my problem. I've never really gotten her off before.
25:21🔗AdamWell, he said he climaxes before she does, but he didn't necessarily say she did or she didn't. It's just before. If she did, it would have been before. All right, so she's masturbating three times a day?
25:35🔗CallerApparently, this is what she tells me.
25:37🔗AdamWhat is her technique? Does she use a vibrator?
25:40🔗CallerActually, yeah, she's... It's like a finger thing is what she tells me, and I've been listening to the show for a while.
25:46🔗DrewWait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What does she use?
26:09🔗AdamNo? I don't know. I kind of believe him. Why would he be calling a national radio show and saying he can't give a woman an orgasm? It hardly sounds like bragging. I'm going to believe you, Josh. Cool. Okay, so you just got to hone your technique a little. And why don't you say to her, what do you do? What do you like? How do you do it? You have those orgasms. What do you do to yourself? Why don't you let me do it?
26:31🔗CallerI was listening to the show a couple of weeks ago and I heard you say something about, like, the faucet in the bathroom.
27:27🔗DrewI must have been a repeat. I did one a couple of weeks ago.
27:30🔗AdamPI., Oprah, 48 Hours. You're big time, Drew.
27:33🔗CallerHow about with that last guy, how about combining the actual sex with her diddling herself while they're doing it and then both things are happening at once and maybe...
27:43🔗DrewThis is why we have rock stars on the show.
27:44🔗CallerThat might satisfy both people at the same time. He seems like it's a pressure gig, like he's a failure. It's not really his problem.
27:52🔗AdamWell, he's doing what guys do, which is he's treating her vagina like he's trying to disarm a bomb or something like this. He's made it into a project and he's probably freaking her out.
28:09🔗AdamYeah. Well, Billy knows. When he was in Canada, he had one blow up right in his face. But you know what's weird? And I mean, tell me if you guys have had the same experience, because most women can diddle themselves or... I'm just calling it diddle because it's not using the tub and it's not using a vibrator. It's just kind of using their finger and give themselves an orgasm. But sometimes when you're with that woman and you're having intercourse and you do what Billy said, which is diddle yourself while I'm in you, they go, it's too much or I can't do it.
28:42🔗CallerIt's not the same. It's not the same. It's two different kinds of orgasm, I think.
28:46🔗AdamRight. But as a guy, if we whacked off and we could somehow get a hand on our penis and simulate our whacking off while we were having sex, we'd just have an orgasm that much faster. You know what I mean? Maybe two orgasms. Why can't they diddle themselves if they're diddling themselves and having an orgasm, then you get in them. Why can't they do it? That's just a poor attitude there, Drew. That's nothing physiological. That's just being a pain in the ass.
29:15🔗AdamThey diddle. You know what I love? I love when women do this one where they go like, they diddle and you're in them and they go, too much, too much, too much, too much. They get overwhelmed. The diddling overwhelms them. Guy's never done that. They're really hard to figure out, these women. Let's take ourselves... No, we're not going to take a break. We're going to hear something from the cult. Yes, Drew?
29:40🔗AdamYes, off of Beyond Good and Evil, out in the stores as we speak. And this one is called Rise. There you go. The Cult is back, everybody. That is a great song. Thank you. I really do love The Cult. Thank you. Billy and Ian are both here from The Cult. Beyond Good and Evil is the name of the new CD. I guess now would be a good time to tell you where they can be found over the next few months with their tour of the United States. Like we talked about, Reno on the 14th, that's Thursday, right? Santa Barbara on the 16th, Sacramento 17th, San Diego 19th, Phoenix 21st, Las Vegas 22nd. They're going to be, they've announced all the Weenie Rose stuff, right? Yeah, good. We'll see them in Irvine Meadows on the 22nd at the Weenie Rose. Oh, sorry, 23rd at the Weenie Rose. Salt Lake City 25th, Denver, Kansas City, Chicago, Minneapolis, Detroit, Cleveland, Boston, New York, Washington DC, Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Austin, Anaheim, Los Angeles, Portland, and San Francisco, all in the next upcoming month and a half or two months. So look for the Colt coming to a town near you. Drew is over there in New York. I'm here with the Colt in LA. And let's talk to Alex. He's 26. Alex?
34:34🔗CallerHey, I had a question for Ian. I was just wondering what your inspiration was for Sweet Soul Sister. Because, I mean, that was like one of the songs that you guys were like greatly known for. I mean, at least like in the early 90s.
34:48🔗The CultI think it was about Angela Davis, Black Panther. I wrote it in Paris.
36:06🔗The CultYeah. The white panthers came out of Detroit and they had the white panthers were like McFarren and the Pink Fairies, kind of an affiliated group.
36:15🔗AdamBut the black panther, the militant black organization, but no black panther in the UK?
36:20🔗The CultNot that I'm aware of. There may possibly have been one. I know there's a Hispanic group called the Young Lords about the same time, the black panthers and the white panthers.
36:27🔗AdamWhy don't they head out to England and start up the black panthers?
36:32🔗AdamWe're going to take a break. The cult is here and we'll be back. After this. Hey, everybody, it's the Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla, and that is Dr. Drew. That is Ian. Yeah.
37:19🔗DrewSo, Ann was pointing out to me that you don't seem to pee as much when I'm not around.
37:25🔗AdamI have a sympathetic bladder, which is when you have to urinate, it has to urinate. Plus, I like to look at your penis.
37:32🔗DrewOh, that's I think what she was getting at.
37:36🔗AdamYou spend your whole life with doctors looking at your penis, but you rarely get to look at a doctor's penis. So, for me, it's exciting to see a doctor's penis.
37:43🔗The CultNo, I don't have penises. Not if you were the doctor I used to go to in England.
37:56🔗The CultWhat are you in for? My shoulder hurts. I just urinate into this.
38:02🔗AdamI like to get you in your underpants and then have you sit around for about four days. Billy and Ian are both here from the cult. Beyond Good and Evil is the name of the CD. Also, Tricky in here tomorrow night, Dave Navarro, Pennywise, 311, Sum 41, a lot of bands in here.
38:34🔗CallerThanks for taking my call. I, lately, probably for the last two or three months, I've been having virtually every night very, very intense dreams. And it's gotten to the point, actually, where I've started to really enjoy them and look forward to them.
38:51🔗CallerWell, there is. A lot of them have to do with car chases and car crashes. But they really do sort of run the gamut. I've had everything from, like, being involved in, like, a gunfight to watching a sibling die. I mean, all kinds of different stuff. But the thing is now, like, it's gotten to the point where I really, I don't consider my night restful or complete until I've, like, had one of these really intense dreams. Like, I wake up, like, sort of what prompted me to start calling the shop and trying to get ahold of you guys for a couple of days was I was having one in the morning. I was having a dream where I was driving a car trying to get away from some people who were chasing me, and my dad came in and woke me up. And I got, like, visibly really upset with him for coming in and wake me up out of this dream. Like, I mean, I was, like, screaming at him, and I didn't even know really why. I sort of, like, couldn't control myself.
39:45🔗AdamAt least he didn't catch you beating off, by the way.
39:53🔗DrewNothing? No vitamins, over-the-counter medicine?
39:56🔗CallerNo, you know, I take ibuprofen a little bit because I play a lot of basketball. But, I mean, other than that, no.
40:03🔗AdamWell, so what do you want to do about it?
40:04🔗CallerWell, I mean, I don't know. I just, I want it to stop because it's starting to, I mean, as long as it wasn't having negative consequences, like my family or whatever, you know, I wasn't real worried about it. I just figured, you know, I'd have these dreams and, you know, I, because I actually enjoyed it. But now, like, it started to, I mean, you know, I had this problem with something.
40:19🔗The CultIt sounds like some kind of escapism as well. If you're so absorbed in dreams, it sounds like maybe you're escaping from something. I mean, if you were acting to your father in that way, you know, you're screaming at your father for waking you up. There's maybe something going on there.
40:42🔗CallerI'm going to Pomona and actually, Drew, I was going to say, you've been a real inspiration to me. I want to be a, I'm going to be a psychiatrist hopefully.
40:48🔗DrewGood for you. Listen, Pomona is the great way to start. It's a great school.
40:51🔗CallerYeah. Yeah. I was real. It was between there or Harvard and I wanted to go to California.
40:55🔗DrewSo God bless you, Pomona is a great school.
40:57🔗AdamBut listen, wait a minute, you couldn't get into Harvard. You would have went to, you would have went to Harvard if you could have gotten to Harvard.
41:02🔗CallerNo, no. It's, I didn't want to go East coast. I've actually, I've got, I've got a 3.9 and a 5th or 1460 SATs.
41:33🔗DrewHere's my concern. Do you have any other symptoms at all?
41:37🔗CallerUm, you know, not really other than that, I'm a super even keeled guy.
41:42🔗DrewBecause here's my thing. First and foremost, vivid dreams are a common medical symptom. And especially vivid dreams that don't have any specific thematic sort of origins to them.
41:58🔗DrewThings like central nervous system problems. These are very common symptoms. So you've been using a lot of ibuprofen, which can upset your kidney function, can cause bleeding. You could be iron deficient.
42:09🔗AdamWhy does kidney dysfunction cause weird dreams?
42:12🔗DrewBecause you become uremic and uremia changes your brain function. And vivid dreams and having difficulty telling the difference between dream and reality, which it sounds like what happened when he woke up. He wasn't immediately oriented to his waking state. He remained in sort of a REM state and started attacking his dad. This is a biological problem and it needs to be looked into. It might be from all that ibuprofen.
42:32🔗AdamReally? He says he takes it once in a while.
42:37🔗AdamWhere is he? Let me get him back. How much do you take, Owen?
42:40🔗CallerWell I take probably just like the recommended dose. I take two or three a day every other day maybe. But Drew, one other dream symptom that I was having was sometimes when I, especially if I have one early in the night and I wake up, I won't be able to move for a couple seconds.
43:01🔗DrewYeah, but those being paralyzed states are night terrors. And the other thing that goes with that is seizure type phenomenon. So it really is something that does require a medical evaluation.
43:11🔗AdamAll right, good times. Guy's having some weird dreams. He's got to see the doctor. I mean-
43:33🔗CallerWell, the possibility I may be pregnant, and within the last two months, I've done ecstasy three times. And I need to know if there's a possibility of causing damage or if there's any... I guess, you know, what can happen.
43:50🔗AdamDid you not know you're pregnant when you were doing the ecstasy?
43:53🔗CallerNo. I'm on birth control pill. It's taken religiously.
43:59🔗AdamOkay. So, well, maybe you took the ecstasy and thought it was a birth control pill and that's what got you pregnant. But, Drew, what about this? We never really talk about this, do we?
44:08🔗DrewYeah. We don't know. We know the stimulants hurt developing babies, so it's obviously not a good thing. But we don't know for sure on ecstasy. I've not seen any data on that.
44:17🔗AdamHowever... Well, three times. Not too much.
44:19🔗DrewYeah. Why do you sound like you're doing so much more than just ecstasy?
44:23🔗CallerNo. That's all I'm on, besides smoking.
45:38🔗CallerMy husband told me to call just to see.
45:42🔗DrewAdam, you're hearing it, Cheryl, what I'm hearing.
45:43🔗AdamYeah, I'm hearing like just serious depression.
45:46🔗CallerWell, I'm concerned about what's going on, whether I want a new child in the life.
45:50🔗AdamAll right, you don't really want this kid. It's not the X. I mean, it doesn't sound like your husband's too crazy about it either.
45:58🔗CallerNo, I love children. I don't want to get rid of it, but I also know the strain that's being put through financially and everything that's going on now. So I'm under a lot of pressure. I'm not depressed about it, but I'm under a lot of pressure.
46:12🔗AdamYou sound depressed. What's your husband do?
46:51🔗AdamWe're going to take a little break. The cult is here. There was something up with Cheryl. I don't know exactly what, but more than that met the ear. The cult is here, like I said, Billy and Andrew is over there in New York. And we'll be right back.
47:05🔗Love Line will be right back. So get your problems ready. Ready.
47:46🔗AdamHey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That's Dr. Drew over there in New York, out there to do the TV show 48 Hours, which will air when, Drew?
48:04🔗AdamAll right. The cult is here. Billy and Ian both here. Beyond Good and Evil is the name of the CD that is out. It is in record stores and it is definitely the cult. And we will hear something else off of that CD probably after we take a couple of calls. Let's talk to Jason who is 30. Jason?
48:38🔗CallerGo. I want to ask Billy his guitar heroes. I can't really detect any obvious ones in his playing.
48:45🔗CallerOh well there would be Mick Ronson that used to play with David Bowie in the 70s. And he also played with Bob Dylan for a while in the Rolling Thunder Revue. He's a big influence and Steve Jones from the Sex Pistols. And Ron Ashton and James Williamson, the guitar players from Iggy and the Stooges. I thought that was pretty seminal stuff. The first two or three Stooges albums, those guys were really good. So there you go.
49:22🔗CallerAnd Ian, do you see a correlation between your more, your lyrics that were influenced by Native American spirituality and your new lyrics now that are more with your Tibetan influence?
49:34🔗The CultYeah, it's just my interest evolved in Tibetan culture because of similarities between the Tibetan nomadic tribes. I ended up going to Tibet, but I've had a love affair of indigenous cultures since I was about 11 or 12 years old. You know, it's just an interest that's evolved.
50:22🔗CallerWe were trying to do a rehearsal, just knock up a couple more songs, because we've been out on the road for a month already, and we're just trying to add a couple of songs just to keep it fresh for the fans and stuff. We were trying to do that, so I can't figure it out.
50:37🔗AdamWhen you're on the road, can you rehearse or is just every play, every gig a rehearsal in a sense? I mean, can you find any time to work something out?
51:09🔗CallerYeah, I don't have a bedwetting problem. I went to the doctor and he said, there's nothing to do wrong with me. It seems like I will not feel an urge to wake up in the middle of the night.
51:50🔗AdamReally? Yeah. I've done that before. You guys ever do that? Oh, yeah. Dream you're standing over the toilet? That's nice. You feel like a genius until you realize what the hell's really going on.
52:02🔗AdamYeah. Hey, I used to wet my bed, too. I wasn't 17, but I did it longer than I should have.
52:09🔗DrewYou're going to give them the egg timer advice, aren't you?
52:12🔗AdamYeah, I'm going to tell them what worked out. I used to whiz my bed, and whenever I'd go sleep over at my grandparents' house, I was probably, I don't know, nine years old or something, my grandfather didn't want me whizzing up the sofa. So we would go to bed at, I don't know, nine-thirty, ten o'clock at night. He'd go watch the Tonight Show, and then he'd come in about one, one-thirty in the morning, he'd wake me up and he'd make me take a whiz into a bucket. I think he maybe gave me a hand job, I can't remember, and then I went back to bed. The point is, is I never wet his sofa because he woke me up three, four hours into my sleep, had me drain myself and go back to sleep. So you need to do that. And people talk about all of these sleep centers and therapists and doctors. Get a little egg timer, one of those little digital kitchen timers, you can set it for three hours, you can set it for two and a half hours, whatever it is. Next time you wet yourself, look at the clock and see what it is. It's probably about the middle between the time you went to bed.
53:21🔗AdamI could put like... Call it Whizbegon. Dr. Adam's Whizbegon. Whizbegon. And color it yellow. And all you got to do is hit three hours, put it next to your nightstand, you wake up, you go take a leak, then you go back to bed. You're not going to wet. I mean, how can you wet the bed when there's nothing in you?
53:56🔗DrewThere are all sorts of problems with spinal reflexes that can cause that kind of thing. But like you say, Adam, there's nothing in you. You have nothing to pee and one of the medical approaches to this is giving a hormone that shuts off the urine production so you don't produce urine overnight.
54:51🔗CallerWell, I just have a question for both you and Dr. Drew. I'm thinking of getting a nose job because I just hate it so much. It's like it has a bump and it points kind of downward. I just want to know what your opinion on it is like for teenagers to get a nose job.
55:11🔗CallerWell, no, but I have this terrible, like, self-image. I'm always self-conscious and I just hate it so much.
55:17🔗AdamYeah, but don't you think once you fix the nose, you would just take that negative energy and shift it to another part of your body like your ass?
55:25🔗CallerWell, no, because I have negative energy for my whole body. So it doesn't really matter.
55:30🔗AdamThat's my point. Why bother fixing the nose? You'll just go somewhere else.
55:34🔗CallerWell, I figure I can do it one thing at a time, you know?
55:37🔗AdamYeah, but those kind of people, first off, end up looking like Picasso's by the time they get into the 30s. You see those women that just work on themselves for way too long, or those men who work on themselves. I mean, Drew, you've seen Michael Jackson's nose up close and personal, right?
55:55🔗CallerYou need a microscope to see it up close. No, it's that small.
55:58🔗DrewWell, you can't quite make it up for all the scar.
56:13🔗AdamSo, instead of just shifting from part to part fixing everything, why don't you just sort of try to get your head on emotionally and be okay with yourself?
56:22🔗CallerI can't do that. It's just leasing hard.
56:25🔗DrewAlicia, at least at 15, most people have all kinds of concerns about who they are or how they look. At 19, it may not seem so overwhelming. You may make different choices about what you want to do about it. So, just hang in there, right?
56:36🔗CallerYeah, but I just want to know, like, is it safe, though?
56:39🔗CallerI mean, even if I don't have to try that.
56:41🔗DrewYou'd have to talk to a plastic surgeon. I'd be hard-pressed to think that anyone would do it.
56:44🔗AdamReally? I bet they'd do it. What about the very unscrupulous people, those plastic surgeons? Alicia?
57:11🔗AdamWhat's up? Do your parents pull a number on you?
57:14🔗CallerNo, I was, like, depressed when I was about 13. I tried to kill myself. I have a lot of problems. I'm, like, weaning myself off of medication. I messed up.
57:27🔗DrewIs somebody telling you to wean off, or are you doing that on your own?
57:29🔗CallerThe psychiatrist told me to. She doesn't think I have major depression anymore, but she's, like, worried about my eating and all that.
57:44🔗AdamHow about you, like, rent a Pippi Longstocking movie, and eat some popcorn and just, I don't know, be 15. I mean, do you have to weigh yourself down with all these, you know, clinical diagnoses and things like that? You get nose jobs and, you know, eating disorders and suicide attempts and pills. You're 15. Do you have friends?
58:08🔗CallerYeah, I mean, I still think, like, that I have, like, a little bit of depression in me because, like, I don't like, you know, to, like, go out that much. I always think people are, like, looking at me and judging me.
58:35🔗AdamWhy don't you try that? I know it sounds so trite, but we always come back to this, and especially women, I think sometimes they don't have enough friends. They look at women as competition.
58:47🔗The CultDon't you think there's a lot of pressure on girls, though, to look a certain way now? It's getting worse, isn't it?
59:10🔗AdamWell, I mean, find somebody less attractive than you are and befriend them and hang out with them. It'll make you feel better.
59:16🔗DrewWhat you were talking about how women don't have as many friends, they have more, they have friends and they actually use them more effectively, but they can't sort of act out the way guys do. Guys go destroy things and they do sports and they physically release a lot of this and they have a comradeship and it really helps them get through these things. Women sit and stew about it and they reinforce sometimes each other's neuroses.
1:00:03🔗The CultWhat's it about? It's about one of Warhol's actresses. You know Andy Warhol? Yes. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, he had a, in New York in the 60s, had a place called The Factory and made a lot of films there. And one of the actresses he had was, her name was Edie Sedgwick. Do you know Edie Sedgwick? Have you heard of her?
1:00:18🔗CallerI think I do. I'm not sure. I am a little young, but...
1:00:22🔗The CultWell, the film is, there's a movie called Chow Manhattan.
1:00:42🔗AdamThat's Idaho. I don't remember reading that one.
1:00:45🔗The CultI don't know. We are going around again probably in the fall. Oh. Yeah.
1:00:49🔗CallerWe're definitely going out again. And so we might, well, go to some towns that we don't hit the first time.
1:00:56🔗CallerWell, honestly, I was surprised to hear a release by you. One of my favorite radio stations here plays Rise all the time. And I was just like, you know, so...
1:01:06🔗CallerWell, if they continue to play it, it's more likely that we'll end up coming to Boise, where I don't think we've ever been before.
1:01:16🔗CallerEverybody that comes to play a concert here that thinks they're not going to like it always ends up loving it. Nirvana loved it here.
1:01:23🔗AdamLet me tell you why people who go to Boise love Boise. Because they go in with such a low expectation level that they're pleasantly surprised when they get there.
1:02:29🔗AdamAll right. I'll put Paul on hold and we will hear another new one from the Colt called American Gothic.
1:06:28🔗CallerThere you go. Another good song from The Cult off of Beyond Good and Evil.
1:06:33🔗AdamThat's the name of the new CD. It is out, and they are out. They will be on the road and in a town near you unless you live in Boise. But they may hit that on the next go-round. Drew, you got another call you want to say hi to?
1:06:54🔗Yes, I have. Well, first of all, I have a comment for the cult. I think you guys are the gods, the rock and roll. Everybody says ACDC, the gods, or what? The godfathers are rock and roll.
1:07:18🔗Yeah. Actually, you know what? I was a security guy right on the front row and I stopped the guy from crowd surfing who was about to come up and maul you and you, you know, you weren't too happy about it but, you know, I forgive you.
1:07:29🔗AdamAll right. So what's your question, Paul?
1:07:47🔗Yeah, and I've tried a couple of times to get off of it but I've noticed that, especially at night, I'll just get, like, my joints will get really achy and just...
1:07:54🔗DrewWell, it's heroin, Newbane, morphine. It's all the same thing. Okay, so this is a profound, profound opiate addiction and it's going to require treatment. You need to go somewhere to get this treated. You will not, even if you successfully detox yourself outside a hospital, there's no way you'll stay off that drug or you'll escalate something else because that drug, in people who are genetically prone, that drug throws a switch in the brain that requires a lot of treatment to undo, really.
1:08:48🔗DrewPaul, you're focused on tapering off the drug. That's not the problem. It'll be no problem detoxing you. The problem will be, this is profound, profound addiction and it's about staying off the drugs. That's the problem. Yeah.
1:08:59🔗AdamHow about detoxing from something like this as opposed to heroin?
1:09:16🔗DrewYeah, but again, that's out of the frying pan and into the fire. Yeah. Methadone is far, far, methadone is far more difficult to get off than New Bank. Far more difficult.
1:09:30🔗Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, definitely. I'm trying to clean my system out. I mean, it's just, you know, it's not going to take me anywhere. It's not the road I want to go down in life.
1:09:38🔗DrewPaul, you're not hearing me. This is a disorder that doesn't get better even in the best of circumstances unless you go participate in treatment. Detox and getting off the drug is the easiest, easiest part of this whole process.
1:09:52🔗AdamI know, but it must scare these guys when you talk that way, Drew, because that's the hardest part.
1:09:58🔗The CultYeah, but sure. It's like, where do you go to detox?
1:10:12🔗DrewAny hospital will have a treatment program for this kind of thing. Most hospitals, at least, they'll know where to go. Or you can call Narcotics Anonymous and get in with people that have been through this and see what they've done and what programs they recommend.
1:10:22🔗AdamWe will take ourselves a little break. Billy and Ian are both here from the cult. We'll be back after this.
1:10:32🔗CallerThis is Loveline. 1-800-LOVE-191, Loveline will be right back.
1:10:57🔗CallerHey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla. Dr. Drew is over there in New York tonight. It's gonna be doing 48 hours tomorrow.
1:11:04🔗AdamBilly and Ian are both here from the Colt, but Billy's shaking the dew off the lily or finishing his taco salad or doing something. So he'll let us stroll into the studio in just a matter of moments.
1:11:34🔗The CultYes, it's been known. If you go to the soccer in England, when I was a kid going to soccer in the UK, you used to stand there at the football, as we call it in England. You used to feel the warm stream going down the back of your leg, and someone else standing there with a can of beer, just taking a pee down the back of your leg, taking a slash at the soccer. That was always a big one. Especially in Scotland.
1:11:56🔗AdamNow, in the soccer stadiums or the football stadiums in England, do you guys just take a slash in one big long trough like we do here?
1:12:07🔗The CultSome guys actually may take a jobby in the stands as well. I'm telling you, man, it was barbaric, especially in Scotland. Rangers and Celtic games, just barbaric.
1:12:45🔗CallerAdam. I'll tell you one thing that happened, though, in England. They changed the stadiums to all-seated because when we were first going, you could stand up and there was a lot of crushing and there was a lot of people got crushed to death when weird crowd things happened and anyway, it's mellowed out a lot.
1:13:16🔗CallerI played in the Ventura Theatre about a year ago and Ian, you're like riding on the crowd and I was like pushing you around, so that's cool.
1:13:40🔗CallerJim, there's nothing wrong with that, mate. Join the club.
1:13:42🔗CallerAnd anyway, so I've always kind of been, you know, like, it turns me on to kind of, you know, when a girl takes it in the butt, you know?
1:13:51🔗CallerAnd I've just, you know, been trying to get my girlfriend to, but she doesn't like it. And anyway, I was just wondering, what's your guys' opinion, where that comes from?
1:14:00🔗CallerTake a shopping first. That always worked for me.
1:14:04🔗AdamYeah, we mean, why are some guys into that and some guys aren't?
1:14:08🔗CallerYeah, and there's also a lot of pornos, they're totally into that, you know, and some aren't, but there's like a lot of them these days, it seems like. It just seems like, where does that come from?
1:14:16🔗CallerThe goalposts have moved in the porno world.
1:14:19🔗AdamYeah. Yeah, there's a lot more jobby packing going on.
1:14:23🔗CallerDon't you think it's interesting that when the more the AIDS thing came about, it seemed that in parallel in the world of pornography, they actually got more into anal sex, where pretty much now, nearly every porno video, is pretty much, that's involved in them all now.
1:14:39🔗AdamWell, I think one of the keys to porno is evolution. You must keep evolving. Otherwise, it's not pornography. I mean, if you think about it, yesterday's pornography is not today's pornography. The pornography your dad saw-
1:14:54🔗The CultThere's only a certain amount of holes that you can actually fill, then.
1:14:59🔗AdamYou go to the anal, you go to the gang bang, you go to that new thing where everyone gets off on the chick, you know, covers her with the tidal wave of semen. You have to keep raising the bar because I've never really thought about this, but the stuff, like I said, that our dads considered pornography 30 or 40 years ago is not pornography today. And maybe the pornography that we look at is pornography today, 30 or 40 years from now will be on NYPD Blue and not considered pornography.
1:15:31🔗CallerIt's like society's standards are changing. I mean, they've got a lot of stuff. You know, they've got gay gang rapes in British TV now and stuff. Really? Yeah. There's a lot of milestone stuff going on in the last couple of years.
1:15:45🔗AdamI just think you got to keep raising the bar, and that's a part of raising the bar is doing things that are a little more deviant, a little more edgy.
1:15:53🔗The CultIt seems like people just don't want to deal with their own pain. Yeah. Well, there's that. More escapism.
1:16:00🔗AdamAll right. So what is it with a guy who wants to do that? I don't know.
1:16:04🔗DrewI think there's a little bit of aggression towards women too, that particular thing.
1:16:08🔗AdamPlus, there's also the thing that a lot of guys have, which is they really like the idea of talking a woman into doing something she doesn't want to do sexually. There's a lot of guys that become sort of obsessed with that. It's sort of a carryover from junior high or high school. You're trying to get this. They don't want to give you that. You spend your whole life as a guy trying to get women to do stuff.
1:16:30🔗The CultJunior high, you're trying to get anything.
1:16:32🔗CallerWell, that's the point. Whatever it is, they don't want to give it up and you want it.
1:16:39🔗AdamWhether it's feeling a breast or getting a kiss or whatever it is. And some guys just carry that into their adult life. Josette?
1:17:15🔗The CultBecause we kind of came out of punk rock and one of the big things about punk rock was you weren't supposed to listen to that music. That was the great Satan, you know, and that's the kind of music we started listening to. Well, I was picking up on the early 80s. I mean, you listen to love albums, a lot of different things. Influences, Led Zeppelin, Iggy Pop and The Stooges is a big influence on that record. The Doors.
1:17:37🔗CallerWonderful. Yeah, it just has a very, just I love the range and the spectrum of it. Like I said, it's my favorite. I just bought your new one today, so I haven't quite gotten a chance to really form an attachment to it, but I'm sure I will. I'm so glad you've released another album.
1:17:52🔗AdamAre you going to see them in concert, Josette?
1:17:55🔗CallerUnfortunately, no. I'm not going to be able to catch them in Santa Barbara when tickets went on sale. I didn't have any money, but hopefully I hear you're going to be doing a second leg and I'm moving up to Washington, so hopefully you'll hit me out.
1:18:07🔗DrewI was going to say, Josette does not sound like she belongs in Bakersfield. Does she, Adam?
1:18:16🔗CallerWell, that's why I'm getting out of here.
1:18:18🔗AdamAll right. But what's going on with your life that at age 27, you can't scrape together 60 bucks to catch a cult?
1:18:25🔗CallerWell, I have another question for Dr. Drew about this. It's kind of part of the reason. The past couple of years, I've been going to do a pretty heavy depression, and I have an appointment with a new therapist tomorrow.
1:18:40🔗CallerI'm very, very hypersensitive to medication, and I was wondering if you could suggest what the lowest or lightest antidepressant would be that I could mention to work.
1:19:10🔗DrewSelexa is one of the mildest in that class of serotonin reuptake inhibitors, and Serizone is a slightly different class, and you can get it in very low dose and take it a couple of times a day. So that's probably the best next step for you, I would think.
1:19:23🔗AdamAll right, Josette. Get out of that Bakersfield, and magically your depression will go away. I guarantee it. Let's talk to Michelle up here. She's 26. Michelle?
1:19:38🔗CallerFirst, I want to say something to Ian and Billy. I just wanted you to know my husband and I have been listening to you guys since we were 14 or 15 years old, and we've been through Southern Death, Cult Love, and everything else in between to the new album, and our wedding bands have Brother Wolf, Sister Moon on it.
1:19:56🔗DrewAnd you've been with your husband since you were 14?
1:19:58🔗CallerWell, we've been best friends and then kind of dating on and off, and now we've been married, going actually next week, the day after the concert in San Diego, is our three year anniversary.
1:20:15🔗CallerSo, and we saw you guys in San Diego last year, but one of my main questions is, my husband and I are actually going through a separation right now, and it's very hard. He likes to drink and party a lot, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's come into the point where it's affected our marriage, and our friendship, and basically our lives.
1:20:43🔗DrewHow could there be nothing wrong with it if it's destroying your marriage?
1:20:46🔗CallerWell, I mean, we've grown up with that, and that's nothing wrong with it, but now you're right. I mean, it is affecting us, and there is something wrong with it.
1:21:01🔗AdamAnd is he getting into a program or something?
1:21:04🔗CallerWell, actually he's probably at a friend's house right now, and he actually might be listening on the radio, but he, I mean, he's been trying to modify it, and, you know, I don't know if the alcoholism is the only problem, but I know he's very depressed, and I think that comes hand in hand. Am I right?
1:21:28🔗CallerWe've both been going to therapy separately, and we tried him living at his parents' or staying at his friend's house, and it's getting to the point where I thought it would help having time away and maybe giving himself a chance to work at things, but it's actually making me really bitter, and I'm like about... I don't want to throw the towel in because I love him so dearly and so very much.
1:21:54🔗DrewBecause what you've been trying to do is to restore the homeostasis you had before his alcoholism really took off. What you want is not homeostasis.
1:22:03🔗DrewThe stability. What you want is your relationship with the home stability. Restored to the point where he's like an alcoholic but not an out-of-control alcoholic. But you can't get that. Your dad was probably an alcoholic, huh?
1:22:15🔗CallerActually, my dad was a compulsive gambler. His family is a bunch of... I mean, he's third generation alcoholic.
1:22:24🔗AdamOkay. So maybe it's time for him to quit. Maybe you should do some Al-Anon.
1:22:29🔗DrewRight. Michelle, the only way that's going to get better is if you go to Al-Anon, you get a sponsor, you start doing some work. That will get his attention. The therapy will not be enough. And if that doesn't do it, then there's really not much else to hope because his disease has taken off. It's a different context. He has to now be totally absent because there's no way to go back to how it was.
1:22:59🔗CallerHis name is Kyle and he, like I said, he might be listening because I was driving home and I heard you guys on the radio and I called him, I called his friend's cell phone. I'm like, would you tell Kyle the Colt's hunt? And we are like, he just saw you guys in LA and got you to sign our CD.
1:23:16🔗AdamTell Kyle that the Colt said that by the time they show up in San Diego on the 19th, that he should have himself seven days of sobriety.
1:23:27🔗AdamAnd a sponsor. And then they'll dedicate a song to him, not out loud, but internally, they will think about Kyle before they play a song. And you guys will live happily ever after. But he's got to get in the program.
1:23:45🔗CallerYeah, well, I actually just... Actually...
1:23:47🔗AdamAll right, that's enough. You get in the program, he gets in the program, you guys go enjoy the Colt. We're going to take ourselves a little break and we'll be back with the Colt after this.
1:24:55🔗AdamYeah, that's right. Actually, to be fair to me, I was drunk and stoned. It was not just drunk.
1:25:01🔗DrewWell, you made quite an impression here to the staff. I want you to feel proud.
1:25:05🔗AdamWell, you know, I'll tell you the problem. The last time I was in New York, I did this, or it wasn't the last time, but ten times ago when I did the radio show out of New York, we did this thing where this guy who wrote for a magazine wanted to take me and my partner Jimmy out for a night on the town with the guys from The Man Show. And we were going to drink and smoke weed and eat steaks. And I said, fine. And I got all into it. And then it was like 1 o'clock and I had to do the radio show. Well, you guys know, right? I wasn't in great shape. But Drew, you're the doctor. It's your job to carry this show when I'm not in good shape.
1:25:42🔗AdamAll right. And you know, the best part about that night is, as screwed up as I was at the end of the night when the show ended at 3 a.m. in New York and the guy dropped me off back at the hotel, he dropped me off at the wrong hotel. It was actually the same name as the hotel I was staying at. It was just the other one. I was standing out drunken stoned at 3:30 a.m. in the middle of the street in New York disoriented because I got a 7 o'clock flight out of LA that morning and really didn't even know where I was. I didn't have any money on me and really, I really should have just cried.
1:26:18🔗CallerYou know what, if you could bottle that feeling. If there was a pill.
1:26:23🔗AdamIs that what being on the road is like?
1:26:28🔗AdamYou know, we didn't get into this last night, but I was talking, who the hell was in here? Maybe it was the night before. We were, I was just talking to a guest and it was about being tired. And the one thing about show business or rock business or whatever that business is, is one thing they don't tell you about is you don't get to sleep a lot of the time.
1:26:51🔗The CultNo, not when traveling. It's really hard to sort of like, when you're especially traveling like us, do long bus drives and it's hard to sleep on a bus.
1:26:59🔗AdamBut also, no matter how luxurious it is, you do this show till 12 o'clock on a Tuesday night and then Wednesday morning you're supposed to do some radio junket that starts at 5.30 or something like that and they never tell you about that.
1:27:12🔗DrewYou were talking to Rob Schneider about his movie junket.
1:27:15🔗AdamRight, right and he said he was in here till 12 and he had to get up at what, six the next morning?
1:27:31🔗CallerMy girlfriend once wanted to have a kid about, starting a week ago and three days ago we were having sex and when we were done she took the condom and she put it in her.
1:28:40🔗AdamOkay. Well, we're just going to hang up on you then, all right?
1:28:43🔗CallerWell, what do I do about my girlfriend then?
1:28:45🔗DrewWell, break up with her. You tell her you're going to break up with her as a kid or not and you take her and you go get the morning after pill. You've got like 12 hours left to do this. Do it.
1:28:54🔗AdamAnd listen, I have no problem whatsoever in hanging up on someone who can't get it together to do a national radio show. You're 16. You should be thrilled to be on the air with us. Ramon?
1:29:39🔗The CultI don't know. Asco Records Company, they have these like strange political marketing things. I guess they feel like in fear, I don't know, the markets are different out there. They require more tracks or something.
1:29:52🔗CallerYou put an extra track to stop them buying cheaper imports or something. There you go. Domestically, in Australia and the Far East, they want people to buy not-imported CDs. So, and Libertine, I'll tell you what happened with Libertine. It was one of the first songs we wrote for this album, and it kind of got put on the back burner because we got all excited about the new songs, and we made a decision not to put it on the album, and it was kind of left over, which now, and then we finally heard it mixed, and we kind of thinking, oh, you know what? It sounds pretty good.
1:30:25🔗AdamWell, can somebody get hold of it from an import place or something like that?
1:30:29🔗The CultAn import in the States, pay twice as much for the single track. We got to work that one out, I think.
1:31:22🔗AdamYeah, I always can't figure out with the English accent why they put the A where the R should be and then lose the A and put the R. Like sometimes English guys will say like instead of going to the spa, it will be spa. But they put it...
1:31:37🔗The CultNo, this is actually in England. There's a store, grocery store called spa.
1:31:55🔗AdamYeah, she was a piece of work. We lived in Santa Monica and she would say wata and then she would say Santa Monica. She put the R on there. And I would say to her, you love to use that A so much, why don't you just use it? Here's your chance. Santa Monica ends with an A, you can use it. Still put the R on there.
1:32:16🔗CallerToo much sunlight, I think, has gone to her head.
1:33:23🔗AdamOh, yes. Rock and roll. I have to be there, but I would not miss it anyway. Beyond Good and Evil is the name of the CD. If you don't have it, it's great. Go get it and look for the cult coming to a town near you. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.
1:33:38🔗The CultYou have to go to the proper facility for the jobby, Dr. Drew.
1:33:42🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on the show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.